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Nafallo*sigh* users.12:19
Nafallowhy compile stuff that's in the archive themselves? :-P12:19
ajmitch_because they're users12:25
Nafalloajmitch_: I should just ignore them ;-)12:26
Nafalloajmitch_: I told them se.archive.ubuntu.com needs to sync, and one of them told me he had 1 megabit against that mirror :-P.12:26
Amarantherr, doing what?12:27
NafalloAmaranth: install packages I assume. but that doesn't help it download the securityfix for OO.o ;-)12:29
Amaranthheh12:29
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tsengajmitch_: new muine!12:36
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Nafallohttp://bash.org/?50089012:42
Nafallohilarious :-)12:42
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tsengogra: my beagled is mostly stopped now btw03:17
tsengogra: just keeps polling (since no inotify)03:18
Nafallohmm, and that depends on the new kernel?03:20
tsengyes03:25
tsengand a fixed gamin03:25
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tsengso about the aac gstreamer plugins requests05:29
tsengwe might have to make a seperate source package?05:29
tsenggst-plugins-multiverse05:29
tsengand build just those05:29
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tritiumrest up, crimsun06:38
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Burgundaviagah, tseng, you borked blam09:20
ajmitch_that's the price of running breezy :)09:34
Burgundaviaindeed09:34
Burgundaviajust switched today09:34
Burgundaviablam doesn't appear to have any debugging options that I can find either09:35
ajmitch_how borked is it?09:36
Burgundaviastarts, but doesn't do anything09:36
Burgundaviawon't search for updates09:36
ajmitch_works for me (tm)09:36
ajmitch_testing updates09:37
ajmitch_right, so hitting refresh all doesn't do much09:37
Burgundavianop09:38
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dholbachmorning09:43
ajmitch_hey daniel09:45
ajmitch_how are you?09:45
dholbachhey ajmitch_, still a bit tired :-)09:46
dholbachwent into the pub with mvo yesterday and got home at 3:30 or something09:46
ajmitch_great :)09:47
dholbachhow are you?09:47
ajmitch_I'm alright09:47
ajmitch_had a quiet day today09:47
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Nafallomorning09:49
=== ajmitch_ waits patiently for his crappy script to run :)
ajmitch_dholbach: http://ajmitch.dhis.org/~ajmitch/breezy_merges.txt09:49
ajmitch_more fun ;)09:49
NafalloI can see... pipes :-)09:50
dholbachi can't believe it - are we ahead of debian in SO MANY places?09:50
ajmitch_I haven't sorted it into what's newer in breezy vs debian09:51
ajmitch_just what differences there are - there are lots of packages newer in sid still09:51
ogramorning09:51
ajmitch_Nafallo: wiki syntax09:51
dholbachmaybe python-apt gives you the nice dpkg comparison operator09:51
dholbachhellas ogra09:51
ajmitch_hey ogra09:51
Nafalloajmitch_: ahh, kewl :-)09:51
ograis tseng around ?09:51
ajmitch_perhaps, but the VersionCompare only takes ints as arguments09:52
ajmitch_still working thru python-apt :)09:52
dholbachajmitch_: then you should use   ||    instead of   |  right? ;-)09:53
ajmitch_dholbach: whatever works, it's only a print statement  ;)09:53
ajmitch_I'd also like to change it to work on source packages instead of binaries09:54
ajmitch_and then fetch the diffs for review from MoM09:54
dholbachajmitch_: grab the two Sources.gz before :-)09:54
ajmitch_dholbach: yes, but this is using the apt interface -  libapt is reading the sources.list :)09:54
ajmitch_otherwise I'll just write up something quickly09:55
dholbachthis is what i used for the apt-get.org stuff09:55
dholbachhttp://ubuntu.gplan.info/apt-get.org.py09:55
dholbachi downloaded 523798752989257 Sources.gz before (via apt-get) and compared them to our own Sources.gz09:55
ajmitch_ok :)09:56
ajmitch_nice mail template09:56
dholbachnot that exciting, but   src_recs = apt_pkg.GetPkgSrcRecords()   and  while  src_recs.Lookup(package):   seem to be the important stanzas09:57
ajmitch_yep09:57
ajmitch_I'm mainly wanting to compare versions09:57
dholbachyeah09:57
ajmitch_so I'll have to work out the syntax for that09:57
dholbachi wonder, when mvo will get up ;-)09:57
ajmitch_depends on how much you made him drink ;)09:58
dholbachit was ok :-)09:58
dholbachi mean, WE didnt end up in the gay bar :-)09:58
ajmitch_I'm glad..09:58
dholbach(compared to the majority of the ubuntu guys in sydney ;-))09:58
dholbachogra: how are you?09:59
ografine... tired...10:00
dholbach:-)10:00
ograjust built the new tomboy source here10:00
dholbachme too10:00
Nafalloogra: amd64?10:00
ograthere is a typo in the source10:00
ograyep10:00
Nafalloogra: rock!10:00
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Nafallohmm, s/rock/kewl/10:00
ograruns fine10:00
ajmitch_ah, looks like I do have it installed10:01
Burgundavia8.3 already has for me10:01
ajmitch_and muine still doesn't work :)10:01
NafalloNo, I'm NOT influenced by this channel in any way :-P10:01
ograheh10:01
=== ajmitch_ will have to complain to tseng or someone
Nafalloajmitch_: eyy, you we're smiling ;-)10:02
ajmitch_?10:02
=== ajmitch_ sees problem, fixes
Nafalloajmitch_: means that you probably LIKE that muine doesn't work ;-)10:03
ajmitch_Nafallo: no, why do you think that?10:03
Nafalloajmitch_: the smiliey :-)10:03
Nafallonm, I shouldn't be up this early, but I have a haircut to be made :-)10:05
dholbachwhy is aaronlake (metallikop) on the CCAgenda?10:07
=== ajmitch_ wonders if VersionCompare takes two indices into the Packages files..
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ograajmitch_, ? muine just needs a built gtk-sharp2-unstable, then it should (nearly) work10:49
ajmitch_ogra: PEBKAC ;)10:52
ograPEBKAC ?10:54
ajmitch_problem exists between keyboard and chair10:56
ajmitch_ie, user (myself) error10:56
ograah10:56
ograalso the dependency to mono-mint must go,  cli-common (>= 0.1) needs to be tightened to 0.1.1 and dh_netdeps and dh_makenetlibs need to be changed s/net/cli then it works fine :)10:58
ograwhoops....11:00
ogra0.8.3 has no trayicon anymore :/11:00
BurgundaviaI noticed that11:00
Burgundaviawas most sad11:00
ograyeah11:00
Burgundaviaand the gnome-panel-app link it dead11:01
ograworksforme11:01
Burgundaviahttp://pedro.codemonkey.cl/muine/applet/index.html11:01
Burgundaviathis one?11:01
ogra404 ?11:02
Burgundaviayep11:02
Burgundaviayou know of another?11:02
ogralooked at gnomefiles ?11:02
Burgundavianope11:02
ograhe probably m,oved11:02
Burgundaviathe download link goes to the same website11:03
ograbut works11:03
Burgundaviayes11:05
Burgundaviahmm, no package means I don't install11:05
ograhmm,  dh_netdeps and dh_makenetlibs are changed in muine 0.8.3 .... funnily debuild still complains about them...11:06
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Burgundaviaand I curse malone11:29
Burgundaviadoes launchpad have a mailing list?11:33
p0mI think I saw one.11:34
Burgundaviaso did I11:34
Burgundaviathere is11:34
Burgundaviathey just don't list it on lists.u.c11:34
p0mWait, you mean Launchpad as in the ubuntu launchpad?11:35
Burgundaviayes11:35
p0mI seem to be thinking of something else then :)11:35
p0mSo you're looking for the malone mailing list11:36
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dholbachUnfrgiven: ping11:41
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dholbachhey herve!11:42
herve(cloudy) morning!11:42
dholbachhere as well11:42
herveso let's eat my easter egg to cheer up :-)11:44
thomlaunchpad mailing list is private; i guess suggesting to bradb/sabdfl that you need a malone users list would be a good first step11:46
Burgundaviathom, thanks11:48
Burgundaviathom, I was using malone, and then I felt like ripping my spleen out (this also happens when I use bugzilla)11:49
Burgundaviaso I needed to vent and tell them what was crack and needed to fix11:49
Burgundavias/to/to be11:49
Burgundaviaed11:49
herveI have feedback too11:52
herveI don't feel comfortable with its ergonomy11:52
Burgundaviaherve, I am in #launchpad talking about it right now11:52
p0mBurgundavia: I thought bugzilla removed your spleen for you.11:52
Burgundaviafelt like != doing11:53
herveBurgundavia, later, I'm with my family11:56
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Nafallomorning all01:22
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | => http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaloneUniverseWishList <= | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Meeting with Malone crew: 12 Apr 16:00 UTC
Nafallodholbach: that last statement seems a bit off IMHO02:29
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | => http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaloneUniverseWishList <= | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Meeting with Malone crew: 12 May 16:00 UTC
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Nafallo:-)02:30
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dholbachwho wants to add something to the MOTU report?03:03
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Nafallodholbach: we're is the draft? :-)03:08
tsengbur[n] er: i can install blam just fine03:08
tsengbur[n] er: er burgandiva..03:08
Nafallohi tseng :-)03:08
dholbachNafallo: not in the net yet, just tell me, what you want to see in there :-)03:08
tsenghi03:08
Nafallodholbach: "We _ROCK_!!!" :-)03:09
dholbachok :-)03:09
Nafalloyou people deserve that statement :-)03:10
tsengogra: ?03:11
tsengajmitch_: ?03:11
Nafallo*sigh* I hate my downstream03:11
ogratseng, i have a fixed tomboy package for you if you like03:11
tsengogra: rock on !03:11
tsengogra: his patch was bad03:11
ograand for the wrong version....03:11
Nafallomy mirror was just synced, started 10 HOURS ago.03:11
ogratseng, http://www.grawert.net/mono/03:12
Nafallohmm, 1G on the other hand :-P03:13
tsengthe beagle stuff is?03:13
ogranot ready yet03:13
tsengok.03:13
tsengchanges to mine?03:13
ogramissing manpages etc03:13
ogrado you have a 0.0.9 ?03:13
tsengits in NEW03:13
ograi havent found one03:13
ograah, ok03:13
tsengI did not review manpage love03:14
ograhmm, i built mine new from source... so i think i should wait for the sync...03:14
tsenghttp://tseng.ath.cx/log/?p=2003:17
tsengsweet i got trolled on my own blog03:17
tfheenheh03:19
Nafallolol03:19
ograheh03:19
tsengI clearly dont know the difference03:19
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tsengogra: uploaded your tomboy03:44
ograthanks :)03:44
tsengthank you.03:45
tsengogra: today I want to work on getting aac gstreamer plugins built03:46
tsengfaac and faad03:46
tsengthat would be rad03:46
ograyeah03:46
tsengthinking about gst-plugins-multiverse03:47
ogracool03:47
tseng(the libs are in universe/multi)03:47
ograyep03:47
tsengthat kind of sucks03:50
tsengi cant add aac support to gtkpod in universe if the lib is in multiverse03:50
tsengright?03:50
ograit should be...03:51
Nafallodooh!04:03
dholbachit's out04:05
Nafallotseng: http://www.magicalforest.se/~nafallo/haircut/ ;-)04:08
NafalloI believe I look more decent now than before ;-)04:14
Nafallotseng: ping?04:19
ogradarn, tomboy is missing a uudecode build-dependency04:23
ogratseng, fixed the missing sharutils build-dep in tomboy, ok if i upload ?04:30
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dholbachhey herve05:03
tsengogra: yes05:05
ografine05:06
tsengogra: ajmitch_ http://tseng.ath.cx/photos/index.php?galerie=udu&snimek=104 < mono team rocks!05:06
ograyay05:06
tsengafter lunch i need to finish up monodevelop deps05:07
tsengbut im hearing gecko#-2 doesnt build on mono 1.1.705:07
tseng(yet)05:07
herveogra, you're on the right if I remember your face?05:09
ograyep05:09
dholbachbye05:10
herveogra, who are the others?05:11
dholbachthe one looking stupid on every picture is me :-)05:12
dholbachlike on 10105:12
ograherve, left is tseng center is ajmitch_05:13
dholbach*wave*05:15
hervehttp://tseng.ath.cx/photos/index.php?galerie=udu&snimek=4&exif_style=&show_thumbs=05:19
hervethis is mako, right?05:19
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ograherve, thats Mithrandir05:26
tsenghttp://tseng.ath.cx/photos/index.php?galerie=udu&snimek=6105:28
tsengthats mako05:28
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tfheentseng: http://tseng.ath.cx/photos/index.php?galerie=udu&snimek=23&exif_style=&show_thumbs= is such an excellent picture.  mjg59 and hal, mjg59 seems very, very happy05:38
tsengtfheen: yes :)05:39
tsengits the MAGIC*05:39
tsengfor some reason original stopped counting # of views on each picture05:39
tsenglatexer has a patch for blam for whoever was complaining05:44
ograNafallo05:44
tsengill fix that after lunch also05:45
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tsenghm and sync with debian while im at it05:46
Lathiatdamn, the FTBFS list is rather long05:47
tsengblam fix is in06:04
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Nafallotip for everyone. DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT look at the second season of dead zone if you can't handle very motionfull programs.07:35
=== Nafallo just want to kill their storywriter atm :-P.
Nafallos/want/wants/07:36
Nafallos/motion/emotion/07:37
TreenaksNafallo: [spoilers]  why not?07:53
NafalloTreenaks: the emotions between episodes 11-15 is tense, every one of those made me cry ;-).07:55
TreenaksNafallo: lots of TV programs make me cry.. but for other reasons ;)07:56
NafalloI've only watched up to 15 yet :-P07:56
NafalloTreenaks: hehe. those has intelligent in them ;-)07:56
Nafallointelligens even07:57
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Burgundaviatseng, thanks08:37
tsengfor?08:38
Burgundaviathe blam fix08:38
Burgundavianow I can have news crack08:38
tsengrock on08:40
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Nafallotseng: rock! that's the way :-)08:43
tsengwe'll see08:43
Lathiatoh yhoh yeh08:43
Lathiatblah08:43
Lathiatoh yeh08:43
Lathiattseng: i meant to send thanks about that too. :)08:43
Lathiatwas pissing my rss crack08:43
Lathiatdamnit08:44
Lathiatim too tired to be ircing08:44
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Burgundaviatseng, are there any debug options for blam? as i couldn't get any useful info out of it as to why it wasn't working08:45
tsengedit the wrapper script to call mono --debug blam.exe08:45
tsengbut this particular bug didnt show anything08:46
tsengjust a helpful tip in general08:46
Burgundaviaok, thanks08:48
ivokshi08:55
ivoksi'm trying to debianize wifi-radar package for breezy08:55
Burgundaviaif I provide a patch against a .desktop file, should I diff against the .desktop file or the whole package?08:58
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bur[n] erivoks: i'll test it :)  i've been waiting for wifi radar.deb :)09:08
Nafalloahh, that thing09:09
=== Nafallo want it to ;-)
=== Nafallo should learn to type wants ;-)
ivoksbur[n] er it's done09:14
ivoksbur[n] er URL in couple of minutes09:14
ivokshttp://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu09:24
ivokswell, i know it's pice of cake to create that deb, but this is my first one :)09:25
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bur[n] eri have no idea how to make a .deb from .py files09:36
bur[n] erseems hard to me09:36
ivoks?09:38
ivokstry it, I added .desktop and changed wifi-radar.sh to use gksudo instead of sudo09:40
ivoksi'll be back...09:41
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ivoksok... couple of fixes...09:53
ivoksok, that's finall -1 release :)09:55
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Nafallodigital cameras work on breezy?10:15
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tsengBurgundavia: rock on.10:31
Nafalloor is it the same error as usbkeys, flashdrives and stuff?10:32
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fitheachhi10:51
Nafalloogra: ?10:53
ograNafallo, ?10:53
Nafalloogra: you never told me what you thought about my branch so far ;-).10:53
ogranice, do you provide it to others ?10:54
ograor is it your private mirror ?10:54
Nafalloogra: ahh :-). people are allowed to use it, if they like the speed ;-).10:55
ograheh10:55
Nafalloogra: only got 512/512kb :-P10:56
Nafalloogra: I will provide my scripts though :-)10:56
Nafalloogra: and logs :-)10:56
ograjust because i think its a bit overkill to pull several GB for a private mirror10:56
ograthats why i asked :)10:56
Nafalloogra: well, if I want to get the source for openoffice for exampel, I don't have to wait for the 76MB :-).10:57
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Nafalloogra: also, when security updates comes in, all three computers doesn't have to download it :-).10:58
Nafalloogra: and the best reason; because I can ;-)10:58
Nafallohmm, I should put this on the webpage :-P10:58
ograthats a usecase, but you still pull a lot of stuff you'll never use...10:58
Nafalloogra: thanks for inspiration :-).10:58
Nafalloogra: ofcourse. and I pull it from se.archive.ubuntu.com :-).10:59
ograheh10:59
Nafalloogra: swedish university, so no bandwidth costs for them :-)10:59
ograi know... its maswan's and Mithrandir's territory ;)11:00
Nafalloogra: cvs.gnome.org is there to :-). and cdimage.debian.org.11:00
=== tseng tries his first build of gst-plugins-multiverse0.8
tsengthe packaging of gst-plugins is very interesting11:01
Nafalloogra: I'll add more stuff I probably won't use later :-). I plan to build install-isos daily when breezy starts with that :-).11:01
tsengeverything is built by substitution11:01
Nafalloogra: btw, do you recognize the layout? ;-)11:03
ograyep11:03
ogradid you test it in explorer ? ;)11:05
ograexplorer isnt able to show these nice dotted lines...11:05
Nafalloogra: I don't use MS products :-)11:05
ograheh11:05
Nafalloogra: and if IE can't handle W3C standards they might aswell go to hell for what I care ;-).11:06
ograheh11:06
Nafalloogra: and yes. I've told my teacher in webdesign that ;-)11:06
ograhehe11:07
Nafallo...and she probably hates me quite a bit now :-).11:07
Nafallo:-D11:07
tfheenwell, webdesign classes where you're not taught that w3c is the holy grail (more or less) are probably useless.11:09
Nafallotfheen: if I put it this way... she want's us to use 600px centered tables just because she thinks it's standard :-P.11:10
tfheenNafallo: sounds like a waste of your time.11:11
Nafallotfheen: naah, I get to take a studyloan and have a _must do_ for fixing a homepage for the domain :-).11:12
Nafallotfheen: I already got grades for the course ;-)11:12
ograso you use frontpage in wine there *g* ?11:12
tfheenNafallo: you know, loans must be paid back. ;)11:13
Nafallotfheen: and money is a must have, unfortunatly.11:13
tfheenI've never really considered that a problem, but I'm lucky.11:13
Nafalloogra: I did s/FrontPage/Screem/g && s/Paint\ Shop\ Pro/GIMP/g first thing I did :-).11:14
ogra:)11:14
Nafallotfheen: you must be :-). but well, I'll get a job soon hopefully :-).11:14
Nafallotfheen: that means I see you in the autumn if I do :-)11:16
tfheenyou're in .se; you should just come visit sometime or something.11:16
Nafallotfheen: I've told Simira the same thing for you two when I spent time on #debian-women :-).11:17
tfheenare you coming to debconf?11:17
tfheenyou should.  It's fun.11:18
Nafallotfheen: probably not, I don't have the job yet. have to save money for next ubuntu conference :-).11:18
tfheendo useful work, get sponsored.11:19
tfheenworks for most people . ;)11:19
Nafallotfheen: you were in Trondheim, right? :-)11:19
tfheenATM, yes.11:19
tfheenmoving to Oslo in a couple of months.11:19
Nafallotfheen: :-). have to learn the programming-dance first :-).11:19
Nafallotfheen: oooh, Oslo is _way_ closer :-)11:20
tfheenthe programming part is easy, it's the "how-the-fuck-do-I-design-this-thing-so-I-can-maintain-it" part which is hard.11:20
Nafallotfheen: lol :-). as you can see I'm probably starting in the wrong end ;-).11:21
tfheenprobably, but we'll beat you with a stick until you get the design part right too.  It's not that hard, really.  Usually at least.11:21
Nafallotfheen: I know :-). the weird thing is that I like it ;-).11:22
tfheen:P11:22
Nafallotfheen: I shall probably wear my chainmail when meeting you IRL ;-).11:23
tfheenNafallo: well, both Simira and I are LARP people, so we'll just wear swords then. ;)11:23
Nafallotfheen: dang! ;-)11:23
Nafallotfheen: but axe would be better, you know ;-).11:24
tfheenaxe is slow.11:24
tfheendodging axes is actually fairly easy.11:24
Nafallotfheen: but it cuts throw the chainmail...11:24
tfheenso does a nice sword, pike or stiletto11:24
Nafallotfheen: meeh! now you're just mean :-).11:25
Nafallotfheen: that would cut throw leather to :-P.11:25
tfheentrue enough11:26
tfheenthe hint is either to catch people's weapons or don't get hit.11:26
Nafallotfheen: hehehe11:26
tfheenat least with LARP weapons, wearing a cloak is a brilliant thing.  hold it up and you can catch a lot of slashes in it.11:27
Nafallotfheen: dang. you have lot's to teach me :-).11:28
tfheenyou're not LARPing, just wandering around in chainmail?11:28
ogratseng, looks like a missing gtk-sharp is blocking tomboy....11:50
ogra(on amd6411:50
ogra)11:50
Nafallowhat a surprise :-P11:50
ograi'll trigger a rebuild if thats ok..11:51

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