[12:02] the package called kdelibs-dev? [12:02] or kdelibs-devel? [12:03] I added the marillat and backports respos today, and then went and check for updates to ubuntu and there were like 19... and I remembered about my changes...hmmmm better not install those :) [12:03] sorry back had to solder my wireless mouse :( [12:03] that would be bad [12:03] <_chavo> transgress, not sure of the package name [12:04] wowser... that's a lot of packages to be added [12:04] neato [12:05] i have a few files on my desktop i can't delete why? [12:06] it says canot move to trash :? [12:06] Kisain: like what? [12:06] files that i created form installs === geolr [~geolr@p549F94B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _andrea [~andrea@adsl-222-176.38-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:06] Hi does anybody know how to set up 96dpi fonts in Kubuntu ? === projectmayhem [~chatzilla@pcp03632443pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] any idea how to delete them? [12:07] rm -f? [12:07] Riddell: the device icons? [12:07] and the name of the files? [12:07] <_chavo> Overdrive, add -> Xft.dpi: 96 to ~/.Xresources [12:07] hi guys [12:07] Kisain: yes [12:07] kk [12:08] eh [12:08] <_chavo> you'll have to log out and in for it to take effect [12:08] Kisain: the device icons? [12:08] <_chavo> but 100 dpi will look much nicer [12:08] newbie here, was wondering how to install QT libraries (i've been trying to install some programs from kde-apps.org and have had little success because they all get hung up on the check for QT during configuration) [12:08] _chavo: so after i make install then this window decoration should be done then right?> [12:09] <_chavo> transgress, yes [12:09] no [12:09] <_chavo> it will install the windeco and some color schemes [12:09] it says that gproftpd is a dir [12:09] projectmayhem: first, have you updated your /etc/apt/sources.list [12:09] but it's on my desktop :/ [12:09] _chavo: Can I please have a bit more detail as im a noob [12:09] kkathman since when? [12:09] kkathman only changes i have made were the ones on ubuntuguide [12:10] projectmayhem: well since you installed...i.e. removed the CD ROM and uncommenting out the other lines [12:10] kkathman yes [12:10] projectmayhem: sounds like you did [12:10] bleh wtf it errored out on me [12:10] <_chavo> Overdrive, do this -> echo "Xft.dpi: 100" > ~/.Xresources [12:10] projectmayhem: ok, well are you familiar with the apt-cache search command? [12:10] _chavo: at console ? [12:10] a little, but i'm not exactly sure which packages i'm looking for [12:11] <_chavo> yes [12:11] projectmayhem: better to teach you how to fish, than give you dinner.... [12:11] how to remove gproftpd floder(it says it's a dir) from my desktop? [12:11] kkathman amen. any help is much appreciated :) [12:12] projectmayhem: go to a shell and type apt-cache search qt (since you are looking for a qt library) [12:12] kkathman just did that, i must be psychic! [12:12] kkathman then just look for the qt-libs package or something to that extent? [12:12] projectmayhem: that will prolly give you a big list from which to choose....you'll want the library....probably something like libqt or something [12:13] projectmayhem: yep...sometimes its hit and miss [12:13] then when you find it...do your sudo apt-get instal [12:13] oops I mean install [12:13] kkathman thx, 'preciate it [12:14] np === morciyo [~morciyo@141.red-82-159-35.user.auna.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:15] also the link to the kdelibs-data fix doesn't work in my browser... [12:15] <_chavo> Overdrive, then run this -> xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources [12:15] <_chavo> you may have to log ou and then back in for all apps to pick it up though [12:16] projectmayhem: did you run that script to fix the kdelibs problem? [12:16] thanks will try [12:16] kkathman i can't get to the script [12:16] projectmayhem: this one http://moba.linuxfaqs.de/kdelibs-debug.sh [12:16] kkathman the web page doesn't load up so i can't download the script [12:16] what? [12:17] huh? [12:17] uh it is a web page to download the script, right? [12:17] uuhm... [12:17] that doesn't look good [12:17] says the link couldn't be found [12:17] can anybody ping 3dots.de? (that's the server) [12:18] "moba.linuxfaqs.de could not be found. Please check the name and try again" [12:18] projectmayhem: file comes over dcc [12:18] thank you kail [12:18] this sucks... === _ross [~overdrive@219-88-203-49.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu === _ross is now known as Overdrive [12:19] I can't even get my spam :( [12:19] projectmayhem: I copied the web site and put it in Firefox and it downloaded for me [12:19] brb gotta feed my nic fit [12:19] grar why are there no kde themes in the repos? xfce, icewm, gnome... all there... but no kde [12:20] kkathman very very weird... [12:20] KaiL: do you know why? [12:20] <_chavo> transgress, I think baghira is in there [12:20] oh well, now its not giving me permission to run the script, even after i've chown 777d it about a bazillion times.... [12:20] no, just asked the admin [12:20] looks like the DNS server is off [12:20] nvm nvm [12:21] fixed that [12:21] baghira is the osx looking one right? === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-141-153-89-111.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] <_chavo> yep [12:21] transgress: yes [12:21] ah found them... kdeartwork [12:21] transgress: did you find where to put the theme file? [12:21] _chavo: Seems to have done the trick thanks [12:21] <_chavo> cool [12:21] thank you so much for the bug fix help guys [12:22] hmm, there's more off [12:22] <_chavo> Overdrive, that will work for any windowmanager also. [12:22] kkathman: i think you just put them where ever and use the theme manager [12:22] ahh ok === ArdieM [~ardiem@p54B254B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:23] my homedir folders are getting doubled when i set "show hidden files" why ? [12:24] hmm... can anyone help me out with this error? "checking for KDE... configure: error: [12:24] in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. [12:24] So, check this please and use another prefix!checking for KDE... configure: error: [12:24] in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. [12:24] So, check this please and use another prefix!" [12:24] projectmayhem: apt-get install kdelibs-dev [12:24] oooh sorry bout the double-paste... [12:24] kail thanks [12:24] projectmayhem: #flood [12:25] transgress ? [12:25] if you are gonna paste a lot of shit, paste it in #flood [12:25] transgress sorry [12:25] <_chavo> he said it was an accident [12:26] projectmayhem: it's all good... just letting you know [12:26] <_chavo> the old CTRL-V button got sticky :) [12:26] _chavo: i wasn't bitching... just letting him know... [12:27] _chavo actually i read the post wrong... hit shift+insert and it skipped down a line so i thought it didn't paste so i hit control+v and turns out both of them work! [12:30] uhh so another dumb question... trying to build my first program here, what do i do after i configure? (i know it has to do with make but my memory is blanking) [12:32] <_chavo> projectmayhem, make is next [12:32] _chavo thanks. then i ./install? [12:32] <_chavo> then make install, or sudo make install if you're installing systemwide [12:33] ok thanks [12:34] getting some weird error messages here when i try to make [12:35] something "all recursive" or to that extent... [12:36] all i know is that recursion gave me a big headache in computer-science [12:36] oh well. thanks for the help guys, seeya later === MindZEye [~mindzeye@seanparsons.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:40] 10m cross cable for 2 computers standung ath the same table - is that a waste of cable? ;) === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.88] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] hell, I need a second TFT [12:46] this CRT (the test PC...) filles my half table === ArdieM [~ardiem@p54B254B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:46] is kubuntu eglish only ? [12:46] no [12:46] for german: apt-get install kde-i18n-de [12:48] ...and language-pack-de [12:48] it *should* get installed on system installation === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.88] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu === ArdieM [~ardiem@p54B254B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:10] what do i had to install to get it in german ? [01:10] for german: apt-get install kde-i18n-de language-pack-de [01:12] How can i change the default system character encoding? === whappd|zzz is now known as whappd === dolny [~dolny@96-26.echostar.pl] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] say i installed kubuntu yesterday's night and ... wow [01:20] say great distro! [01:21] yes it is [01:22] in fact [01:23] ever needed to configure something manually, which also could be done automatically? [01:23] I needed 2 times on 11 systems (+2 times driver compilation) [01:23] yesterday i removed fedora [01:23] because after compiling the kernel [01:24] with ati driver support [01:24] and ntfs [01:24] the kernel worked, but the new features (ntfs, fglrx) didnt' [01:24] and kde works crappy like hell [01:24] on fc3 [01:26] on u(k)buntu things are called bugs, people never expect to work on any Linux: [01:26] system being fully configured after installing [01:27] brb [01:27] ill switch from irssi to xchat === dolny [~dolny@96-26.echostar.pl] has joined #kubuntu [01:28] hi again :) [01:29] welcome back [01:30] hm [01:32] kail [01:32] do you use (k)ubuntu? [01:32] yes [01:32] i love the thing that you can configure kde to such degree [01:32] on every PC I can get in my fingers :) [01:33] the next candidate sits just left to me, it only needs a cdrom/dvdrom [01:33] :) [01:33] its 1:33 in the night here [01:33] doh [01:34] not that much earlier ~500km west from you *g* [01:34] :) [01:35] listening to Nirvana - Lounge Act on Amarok (wow, what a great audio player!) [01:35] still, my audio cds don't work :/ [01:35] that's not good [01:35] cd volume to low or so? === KaiL never tried [01:36] and has no cd to test around [01:36] i don't know, really, tried many things, but the volume was ok i think === KaiL has a 13GB Dreamdance folder for that [01:37] for what :) ? === dolny [~dolny@96-26.echostar.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:38] having some noise here :) [01:38] bang.. === dolny [~dolny@96-26.echostar.pl] has joined #kubuntu [01:38] oops [01:38] having some noise here :) [01:38] :} [01:38] right now - tom waits === _jk [~jrk@24-148-87-160.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === xe|| [~xell@chello080108045106.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] TV starts to bacome a very bad solution, after MTV has bought VIVA and they also only send trash-shows and play hiphop...:( [01:40] well [01:40] i was born too late [01:40] oh, and jamba adverts.... *grr* [01:40] i am a great fan of that seattle boom [01:40] at the beggining of 1990s [01:40] y'know alice in chains and stuff (nirvana, early pearl jam) [01:41] ah [01:41] and generally, i would prefer to be born earlier [01:41] but it won't help you to get to the USA in the 80s ;) [01:41] ;] === dolny nods === _ReDRuM_ [~windows@cpc1-brig4-5-0-cust169.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] i never thought kubuntu would be so cool [01:43] i had problems with mandrake, fc3 [01:43] <_ReDRuM_> ack help! heh i tried to morph hoary into breezy and when i did apt-get upgrade its screwed up my locales [01:43] i know they are [01:43] newbie distros [01:43] but still, kubuntu ownz ;) [01:43] more stable === KaiL always lived in "sidewidth" to the inner-german border, first in Luebeck, then a bit nore to the south [01:44] <_ReDRuM_> ok its deletes some of the locales === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.88] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] <_ReDRuM_> where do you set the locale variables in kubuntu/debian again? [01:44] <_ReDRuM_> or how [01:44] _ReDRuM_: uhm? didn't do that here [01:44] <_ReDRuM_> i was usin en_GB.UTF-8 [01:44] try dpkg-reconfigure locales [01:44] <_ReDRuM_> and it doesnt exist anymore [01:45] ..for the first [01:45] <_ReDRuM_> but en_GB does [01:45] <_ReDRuM_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed [01:45] <_ReDRuM_> lol [01:45] maybe everything is UTF-8 now? [01:45] <_ReDRuM_> oh goodie [01:45] ah.. [01:45] apt-get -f install [01:45] I guess you had fun with kdelibs-data ;) [01:45] <_ReDRuM_> apt-get -f install says i need to use apt-get -f install [01:45] <_ReDRuM_> sweet... [01:46] and something else? [01:46] about overwriting... [01:46] <_ReDRuM_> yeh [01:46] <_ReDRuM_> not bout overwriting tho [01:46] kdelibs-data -> knetworkconf? :) [01:47] <_ReDRuM_> The following packages have unmet dependencies: [01:47] <_ReDRuM_> libc6-dev: Depends: linux-kernel-headers (>= 2.6.11.2-0) but 2.5.999-test7-bk-17 is to be installed [01:47] <_ReDRuM_> libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13) but 2.3.5-0ubuntu3 is to be installed [01:47] oh, something new.. [01:47] I had some probs with kdelibs-data, fortunatelly that didn't screw up my whole system, fixed it by looking at ubuntuforums thread === loren [~loren@69-12-132-188.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:47] <_ReDRuM_> amazin... [01:47] *fortunately [01:48] kdelibs-data issue sucks ;/ [01:48] hmmh im wondering if anyone's been able to completly integreate a grub bootsplash, mainly erm... not showing "any" code whatsoever [01:48] dolny: I have writen a script for that fix ;) [01:48] <_ReDRuM_> pfft [01:48] <_ReDRuM_> my systems completely broken [01:48] not really [01:48] <_ReDRuM_> yeh it is [01:48] <_ReDRuM_> i cant use anything cause my locales are screwed [01:48] hm [01:48] <_ReDRuM_> even VLC complains my locales is screwed [01:48] <_ReDRuM_> and wont play movies (why?) [01:49] _ReDRuM_: you have breezy in sources.list? [01:49] <_ReDRuM_> i can still use konversation tho :D [01:49] :) [01:49] <_ReDRuM_> kail yeh i just did sed -i s/hoary/breezy/g [01:49] what is breezy? [01:49] strange [01:49] and did a apt-get update after..? [01:49] <_ReDRuM_> apt-get update [01:49] <_ReDRuM_> apt-get upgrade [01:49] <_ReDRuM_> and then it downloaded loads of packages and bombed out installing libc6 [01:49] trat's strange [01:50] why doesn't it want to upgrade linux-kernel-headers [01:50] try "apt-get install linux-kernel-headers" [01:50] <_ReDRuM_> ignores it [01:50] <_ReDRuM_> sort of [01:50] ignores? [01:50] <_ReDRuM_> just complains of [01:50] <_ReDRuM_> libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13) but 2.3.5-0ubuntu3 is to be installed === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.88] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] dpkg -P libc6-i686 [01:51] <_ReDRuM_> i knew this flashy apt package manager would haunt me [01:51] ...let's move that out of the way for the first [01:51] <_ReDRuM_> ubuntu base depends on it so it wont remove (removing libc6 on a running system? you sure? :P) [01:52] ubuntu-base is only a metapackage, that doesn't matter [01:52] <_ReDRuM_> k ill kill that then [01:52] <_ReDRuM_> and hope removing libc6 doesnt blow up my system [01:52] we can reinstall both later [01:52] is there a difference between bootsplash and grub splash? [01:52] <_ReDRuM_> yeh but everythin uses libc6 heh [01:52] it's only the i686 version, so we just call back to i386 :) [01:52] <_ReDRuM_> ahh [01:52] i want a big terminal as my background [01:53] how do i do that [01:53] *can i do [01:53] ArdieM: maximize konsole? :) [01:53] :9 [01:53] no i heard that it is possible with eterm [01:54] man eterm (or Eterm?) might be a place to find out then :p [01:54] <_ReDRuM_> still wont let me install kernel headers === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.88] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] _ReDRuM_: what now? [01:54] <_ReDRuM_> spews loads of erroes about the locale [01:54] the locales doesn't matter [01:54] <_ReDRuM_> trying to overwrite `/usr/include/asm/bootsetup.h', which is also in package amd64-libs-dev [01:54] <_ReDRuM_> wtf [01:54] <_ReDRuM_> why do ieven have that installed [01:55] <_ReDRuM_> woo [01:55] <_ReDRuM_> now its installing [01:55] removes that amd64 one? [01:55] <_ReDRuM_> and making the utf 8 locales :) [01:55] <_ReDRuM_> yeh did [01:55] <_ReDRuM_> dunno why it was there [01:55] <_ReDRuM_> i dont have an amd64... [01:55] that package only exists for i386 [01:56] maybe some cross compiler or so [01:56] <_ReDRuM_> its back on track now [01:56] <_ReDRuM_> thanks :D [01:56] damn [01:56] now reinstall ubuntu-base ;) [01:56] there's no deb installer for azureus ;) ? [01:56] <_ReDRuM_> did heh [01:57] <_ReDRuM_> dolny: you dont want it its a whore heh [01:57] did that reinstall these amd64 stuff? [01:57] <_ReDRuM_> always makes my x server crash [01:57] sorry for interrupting guys [01:57] <_ReDRuM_> KaiL: no... [01:57] interesting [01:57] "This package contains runtime libraries for the amd64 (x86_64) architecture, configured for use on an i386 Debian system running a 64-bit kernel." [01:57] <_ReDRuM_> probably apt-get build-dep or something did it === fsapo [~fsapo@200-158-235-74.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === polorix [~polorix@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:58] sounds like for using amd64 functions in a 32bit OS or so === _jk is now known as jk_is_away [01:58] hi all, i just installed kde on my ubuntu, but i cant manage how to show the folder on the left side of konqueror.. how do i do it? [01:58] <_ReDRuM_> i definately dont need it :) [01:59] fsapo: F9 [01:59] <_ReDRuM_> dolny: think there is an azureus package in multiverse too btw [01:59] KaiL, lol.. thanx ^^ didnt think that would be that easy [01:59] <_ReDRuM_> maybe not tho [02:00] redrum: thanks, ill compile it i think [02:00] _ReDRuM_: uhm, no [02:00] <_ReDRuM_> dolny: dont need to do that just download the bins from the azerues sourceforge page [02:00] I have every silly package base enabled and don't have it available [02:00] <_ReDRuM_> KaiL: heh [02:00] <_ReDRuM_> actually maybe u SHOULD compile it since mine screws up the X server with worrying frequency [02:01] KaiL, and how do i configure it to use double click to open files? [02:01] <_ReDRuM_> theyve almost got the stage with gcj will be able to compile azureus [02:01] <_ReDRuM_> that will be sweet [02:01] what is azureus btw? [02:01] <_ReDRuM_> KaiL: bittorrent client written in java [02:01] <_ReDRuM_> probably the best client in terms of features [02:01] <_ReDRuM_> and the worst too cause its written in java [02:01] ok installed it [02:01] fsapo: uhhm [02:01] I don't even know, if you can [02:02] azureus works 100000x faster than my windows ABC client [02:02] <_ReDRuM_> dolny: you noticed those bastards screwing up torrents lately with fake pieces so you have to download 3 gig just to get a 300mb file? [02:02] i dont like opening files with a single click =/ [02:02] <_ReDRuM_> abc is horrid too [02:02] say no? [02:02] dolny: a fast java app? can't be true ;) [02:02] i download only music things [02:02] <_ReDRuM_> bitcomet on windows is the best client i ever used [02:02] concerts etc [02:02] www.onemoresolo.net [02:02] <_ReDRuM_> oh im gettin that downloadin tv series [02:02] and www.dimeadozen.net [02:03] damn! [02:03] NAT error [02:03] while testing 6881 [02:03] for azureus [02:03] <_ReDRuM_> forward the port [02:03] in fedora core you had to allow that port in firewall [02:03] but here:/ [02:03] im a linux newbie [02:03] how [02:03] ? [02:03] <_ReDRuM_> is azureus not on your linux box? [02:03] you sit behind a router? [02:03] no, not behind a router [02:04] <_ReDRuM_> is azureus on the same machine the internet connection is on? [02:04] yes [02:04] that's strange then === _ReDRuM_ looks in his firewall script [02:04] <_ReDRuM_> you got a firewall running there? [02:04] and kubuntu doesnt have a firewall [02:04] <_ReDRuM_> iptables? shorewall? [02:04] as ubuntu doesn't run a firewall [02:04] yes but its set to allow all i mean, its stopped [02:04] shorewall rocks. [02:04] yeah i have it [02:05] <_ReDRuM_> you have shorewall? well set that up to allow traffic on port 6881 [02:05] <_ReDRuM_> i cant help u with shorewall i rolled my own firewall script [02:05] someone is running bt? [02:05] ill remove shorewall for now [02:05] <_ReDRuM_> dolny is [02:05] thats easy [02:05] bt with shorewall is very easy [02:06] <_ReDRuM_> tell him how to do it with shorewall then :P [02:06] i believe, but im so sleepy, dont have time to play with it now [02:06] ACCEPT net $FW tcp 6881:6999 - - - - [02:06] ill install it tommorow === _ReDRuM_ doesnt see why thats so much easier than using iptables to do it... [02:06] that goes in the file called 'rules' === roboto [~jrk@24-148-87-160.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] <_ReDRuM_> heh [02:06] and remember to change net to your internet interface group [02:07] <_ReDRuM_> *opens his own firewall script* [02:07] _ReDRuM_: I just thought the same [02:07] <_ReDRuM_> allowed_services="22 6881:6889" [02:07] <_ReDRuM_> thats how u do it in my script :P [02:07] "iptables made easy" sounds like a graphical frontend or so.....:) [02:08] <_ReDRuM_> forward_hosts="delta:udp:6667 bravo:tcp:61333" [02:08] ill check that tommorow [02:08] i uninstalled it for today === _ReDRuM_ is glad he didnt bother learning shorewall :) [02:08] but god dammit [02:08] why do i get a nat error [02:08] on a linux without a firewall [02:08] sucking ISP? [02:08] it worked on fedora core 3 [02:09] <_ReDRuM_> dolny: NAT error = not sure, could either be cause the port is blocked or cause your azureus is reporting dodgy LAN ips [02:09] <_ReDRuM_> ud have to look for azureus help to answer that [02:09] does anyone here know if SHN format (and FLAC and OGG) are supported in K3B to burn to an audio cd?? [02:10] what is SHN? === _jk [~jrk@24-148-87-160.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] is there any way to put a shortcut bar on the top of my desktop in kde? i was used to gnome and i am missing my shortcuts :( [02:11] SHN is a lossless audio format (The Dead, Phish, Widespread, Ratdog ... just a few bands that record in this) [02:11] fsapo: you can add child panels (rightclick on the existing panel ->add -> panels..) [02:11] dell500: aha [02:11] well, just try :) [02:11] dunno === whappd [~rcx@ip68-14-89-187.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === hippie [~hippie@pc-200-74-33-211.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] KaiL, SHN doesn't work, but i think FLAC was fine [02:13] it added to the list... [02:13] OGG should work too [02:13] MP3 of coz [02:13] s/OGG/Vorbis/ [02:14] btw, Ive never seen shn before [02:14] ogg? in what [02:14] and I dont think there is a plugin for it for any popular linux player [02:14] transgress: k3b [02:14] oh [02:14] k3b should be able to burn vorbis oggs [02:14] yeah [02:14] I can't remember the name of it, but isnt there a menu updating tool for KDE (separate from kmenuedit) ? [02:15] kappfinder? [02:15] that one with the 1500*300px window? :) [02:16] ok guys [02:16] the azureus client works flawlessly [02:16] it just reported an nat error but works [02:16] and downloads [02:16] as for the ogg etc [02:16] dont burn OGG format to audio [02:16] its too lossy [02:16] try to get FLAC [02:17] it a compressed wav === Diablo-D3 whacks dolny [02:17] (probably you know that) [02:17] everything is compressed PCM. [02:17] KaiL, thats it! thanks [02:17] but flac is much better === chavo [~chavo@234.sub-70-213-71.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] and yes, we all know flac is a lossless format. [02:17] ok ;) [02:17] and we all know vorbis is a lossy format [02:17] dolny: whats really going to bake your noodle, is that ogg is just a container format [02:17] and you can have flac in ogg. [02:18] i like the way flac sounds, but SHN is REALLY nice too [02:18] <_ReDRuM_> ogg is an audio codec [02:18] <_ReDRuM_> ogm is the container [02:18] i'm listenin to some dead and it's clear as hell [02:18] like if you were front and center [02:18] _ReDRuM_: wrong. [02:18] www.etree.org [02:18] ogg is a container format. [02:18] <_ReDRuM_> not unless its changed in the past 4 years [02:18] supports SHN [02:18] changed? dude, that never existed. [02:18] ogg was always xiph's container format [02:19] <_ReDRuM_> hmm. it blatently did exist [02:19] do you have to restart kde to get the transparencies on windows working? [02:19] <_ReDRuM_> cause i still have .ogm movies [02:19] <_ReDRuM_> from 2001 [02:19] I didnt say ogm wasnt a container format [02:19] did anybody in here installed (k)ubuntu on a i586 system? [02:19] Torrent details for "Tom Waits - Amsterdam 11-21-04 - PAL DVD with upgraded audio". [02:19] (K6 or so) [02:19] ahh [02:19] :) [02:19] ogm is a shorthand extension meaning "ogg with video in it" [02:19] dolny: umm? we care? [02:19] <_ReDRuM_> eh if you say so i cant say i ever read xiphs web page. [02:20] _ReDRuM_: so, please, quit passing around wrong information. [02:20] goodnight guys === dolny is now known as dolny|zZz [02:20] <_ReDRuM_> why dont you quit passing arround irrelevent information [02:20] ogg is a container format, vorbis and flac and speex are all audio codecs. [02:20] <_ReDRuM_> who gives a damn about an ogg codec [02:20] <_ReDRuM_> shut up this is linux channel [02:20] :) === Nub [~chatzilla@pool-71-106-117-172.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:20] And on ignore you go. [02:21] Buhbye now. [02:21] <_ReDRuM_> oh no. [02:21] kind of like i'm on ignore too [02:21] <_ReDRuM_> arrogant little prick isnt he [02:21] <_ReDRuM_> bet hes 15 [02:21] <_ReDRuM_> neways [02:22] does k3b accept plugins or anything?? [02:22] yeah i already told him he was a dipshit a good few times... he did however respond to things i said after he "put me on ignore" [02:22] <_ReDRuM_> rofl [02:22] dell500: I think there are k3b plugins [02:22] HELP: ubuntu doesn't see Microsoft PCI Adapter MN-130 #2 (nic card) === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.88] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] see in reality _ReDRuM_ he can't stand the thought of not knowing what we say about him, so he doesn't put us on ignore, but instead bites his tongue when we talk about him... makes him feel somehow victorious [02:24] <_ReDRuM_> i cant be bothered to talk about him :) [02:24] Nub: MS ever made NIC cards?! [02:24] yeah [02:24] and i happen to use one [02:24] and ubuntu happens to not like it [02:24] or something of that sort [02:25] how is it named in lspci? [02:25] uhh [02:25] dunno, dunno what that is either [02:26] i'm booted in windoze right now so i could use the internet [02:26] kde menu -> system -> info center -> pci devices [02:26] ah, oh :) [02:26] oh [02:26] what is Synaptic Smart Upgrade? [02:26] i think i remember it saying Microsoft PCI adapter [02:27] when i go to Network settings it doesn't show [02:27] <_ReDRuM_> neways i got to catch some shuteye [02:27] <_ReDRuM_> thanks for the help kail [02:27] <_ReDRuM_> nite transgress, others === _ReDRuM_ laughs at diablo [02:27] hmm [02:28] maybe it's a driver issue or something? [02:28] where does ubuntu store drivers btw? [02:28] usr/src/linux-2.6/drivers? [02:29] atleast thats what i figured but the folder linux-2.6 or anything of the sort doesn't exist in that context [02:29] Nub: check /lib [02:29] hmm ok thanks [02:29] Nub: /lib/modules/2.6*/ [02:30] /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/ to be more exact, but that doesn't help [02:30] https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/2003-November/msg00133.html === mr_roboto [~nobody@24-148-87-160.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:30] in short: you need to hack in driver source code [02:30] damn... [02:30] he should get better hardware [02:31] that tulip shit sucks, broke ACPI S3 for a friend [02:32] even RealTek is better ;) === Nub [~chatzilla@pool-71-106-117-172.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:33] sorry about that [02:33] Nub: wb [02:33] thanks [02:33] you should get a better card [02:33] ok so now i know where the drivers are so i should be able to make the driver work [02:33] unfortunately this is the better card [02:34] better than what? [02:34] i recently purchased it as an upgrade from some POS nic i was using before [02:34] wow [02:34]