| fabbione | morning | 05:26 |
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| svenl | hi fabbione | 05:58 |
| svenl | fabbione: i tried to build mplayer yesterday, and it failed because of some altivec includes. | 05:59 |
| svenl | fabbione: and the existing powerpc packages seem to lack the actual binary. | 05:59 |
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| fabbione | ok ladies and gentlement | 07:52 |
| fabbione | we need a new kernel release name/series | 07:52 |
| fabbione | votes are open :) | 07:53 |
| fabbione | JaneW: since when you are interested in the kernel? :) | 07:53 |
| crimsun | hmm, as in "Bite the Dildo" names? | 07:53 |
| crimsun | oh wait, that was probably inappropriate | 07:53 |
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| dilinger | fabbione: still going for food names? | 07:54 |
| fabbione | dilinger: well we can do whatever we like | 07:55 |
| fabbione | i was considering some kind of flexibility | 07:55 |
| crimsun | 'lo JaneW | 07:55 |
| fabbione | like hurricanes name for unstable releases | 07:55 |
| fabbione | and something else for stable releases | 07:55 |
| fabbione | or whatever.. | 07:55 |
| fabbione | i am really open to suggestions | 07:55 |
| fabbione | i think 91-1.1 is ready to go out of the door | 07:56 |
| JaneW | hi crimsun | 07:56 |
| JaneW | fabbione, just browsing | 07:56 |
| JaneW | fabbione: besides I am interested in all things ubuntu related ;) | 07:56 |
| fabbione | JaneW: be aware.. this is the channel of the truth of death :P | 07:56 |
| crimsun | 2.6.11.90-1 is working great | 07:57 |
| fabbione | crimsun: good to know | 07:57 |
| fabbione | 91-1.1 will hit the archive today | 07:57 |
| fabbione | 92 is already a work in progress | 07:57 |
| crimsun | ooh! | 07:57 |
| fabbione | i just need the name for 91-1.1 | 07:57 |
| crimsun | it'll be the stable branch, right? | 07:58 |
| fabbione | nope | 07:58 |
| fabbione | this is unstable | 07:58 |
| crimsun | oh, 9x | 07:58 |
| fabbione | 91 = 12rc3 | 07:58 |
| crimsun | right | 07:58 |
| fabbione | 92 =12rc4 | 07:58 |
| fabbione | so whatever | 07:58 |
| fabbione | we need something cool tho | 07:58 |
| fabbione | nobody is going to read a 200 lines changelog anyway | 07:58 |
| crimsun | what about ferocious predators for the unstable branch and docile animals for the stable? | 07:59 |
| fabbione | hmmmmm | 07:59 |
| dilinger | how about ornery kernel hackers for the unstable branch and huggable ones for the stable branch? :) | 08:00 |
| dilinger | you could start w/ al viro for the first unstable | 08:00 |
| fabbione | dilinger: examples? :) | 08:00 |
| fabbione | hmmm i am afraid that using people names might create political issues | 08:01 |
| fabbione | people might not like it | 08:01 |
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| crimsun | funny, I was thinking Al, too ;) | 08:02 |
| fabbione | The "Phantom Mance" Release | 08:03 |
| fabbione | Menace | 08:03 |
| dilinger | crimsun: when i think of kernel hackers who put the fear of god into me, i think of al | 08:03 |
| dilinger | and that's saying a lot, since i'm an atheist :p | 08:04 |
| fabbione | i have an idea | 08:05 |
| fabbione | let's use the weirdest sex positions, md5sum encoded | 08:05 |
| fabbione | and see who is going to guess them :) | 08:05 |
| fabbione | kinda of a contest ;) | 08:05 |
| dilinger | i'd recommend that w/out the md5sum encoding ;) | 08:05 |
| fabbione | dilinger: pig! :P | 08:06 |
| crimsun | yeah, the md5sum would be even worse than the current numbering scheme ;) | 08:06 |
| crimsun | we could just rot13 'em | 08:06 |
| Lathiat | that would be evilly cool | 08:06 |
| fabbione | Lathiat: the md5 or the rot? | 08:06 |
| Lathiat | rot | 08:07 |
| fabbione | do we have a cmd line tool to rot encode? | 08:07 |
| dilinger | fabbione: give the people what they want! the reverse cowgirl kernel release.. | 08:07 |
| Lathiat | yeh |rot13 | 08:07 |
| Lathiat | i think its in bsdgames | 08:07 |
| Lathiat | or | 08:07 |
| Lathiat | just use the tr command | 08:07 |
| Lathiat | theres a string for tr somewhere | 08:08 |
| Lathiat | i dont know it | 08:08 |
| Lathiat | google should | 08:08 |
| fabbione | dilinger: ahhaa | 08:08 |
| crimsun | yeah, straightforward and simple | 08:09 |
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| fabbione | sexy_rodeo == Put your woman doggie style, grab her by her tits and penetrate her. When you are in, tell her "did you know this is the position your sister likes most?" then you have to stay up for at least 8 seconds | 08:10 |
| dilinger | yea, i wouldn't recommend including the explanations. or including words with sexual connotations. | 08:11 |
| fabbione | dilinger: clearly :) | 08:11 |
| Lathiat | heh | 08:12 |
| fabbione | it was only an answer to the cowgirl thingy :) | 08:12 |
| dilinger | hehe | 08:12 |
| fabbione | ok.. we must get a name | 08:16 |
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| dholbach | will there be silly animal names for the kernel as well? ;-) | 08:20 |
| fabbione | dholbach: any proposal is good :) | 08:22 |
| fabbione | go ahead with your | 08:22 |
| dholbach | i'd love to have SneezySnail somewhere ;-) | 08:22 |
| crimsun | hmm, speed is another good idea | 08:22 |
| crimsun | could even combine that with the ferocious/docile thing | 08:22 |
| dholbach | but i'll think of something else | 08:22 |
| fabbione | dholbach: i would like to avoid name clashes with releases | 08:22 |
| dholbach | of course | 08:23 |
| dholbach | but SneezySnail will hopefully never be a release name ;-) | 08:23 |
| Lathiat | sneezysnail would be a nice release name :) | 08:23 |
| dholbach | i think it was keybuk's idea :) | 08:24 |
| dholbach | see you | 08:43 |
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| fabbione | The "amok" Release. | 10:15 |
| fabbione | what about this one? :) | 10:15 |
| jbailey | Bah, I'm going to bed. | 10:17 |
| jbailey | Too tired to finish the lkh bits tonight. | 10:17 |
| fabbione | jbailey: good night dude :) | 10:17 |
| jbailey | g'n. =) | 10:18 |
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| fabbione | JaneW: you here? | 10:41 |
| JaneW | fabbione: yes - on phone | 10:57 |
| fabbione | sure.. take your time | 10:57 |
| JaneW | fabbione: ok done, - how can I help? | 11:03 |
| fabbione | JaneW: we need a release name for the kerenl | 11:03 |
| fabbione | kernel | 11:03 |
| fabbione | something that indicates that it is pure crack :) | 11:03 |
| JaneW | hehehe | 11:07 |
| JaneW | gimme examples of what you;ve had... | 11:07 |
| fabbione | or something with a "pink" touch.. but than you will commit to find names for the whole breezy release cycle :) | 11:07 |
| fabbione | JaneW: The "Succulent Strawberries" Release. | 11:07 |
| JaneW | ;) | 11:07 |
| fabbione | The "Radioactive Radish" Release. | 11:08 |
| fabbione | The "Atomic Artichoke" Release. | 11:08 |
| fabbione | now.. we reserved veggie for hoary | 11:08 |
| JaneW | ok | 11:08 |
| fabbione | but food is limited | 11:08 |
| fabbione | so we need to get a new cathegory too :) | 11:08 |
| JaneW | ice-cream flavours...? | 11:09 |
| JaneW | can get orett outrageous | 11:10 |
| JaneW | pretty even | 11:10 |
| fabbione | JaneW: that would work too... | 11:10 |
| JaneW | Pecan Swirl | 11:10 |
| fabbione | fire some :) | 11:10 |
| fabbione | PS <- ??? | 11:10 |
| fabbione | we use a similar convention to release names | 11:10 |
| fabbione | like Hoary H. | 11:11 |
| fabbione | so same first letter | 11:11 |
| fabbione | that's what make it a bit harder ;) | 11:11 |
| JaneW | ok | 11:11 |
| JaneW | Rocky road | 11:11 |
| JaneW | Praline pecan | 11:12 |
| fabbione | something like that... | 11:12 |
| JaneW | Chocolate chip | 11:12 |
| === fabbione needs to picture these icecream flavours... | ||
| fabbione | http://www.recipesource.com/desserts/ice-cream/00/rec0095.html | 11:14 |
| === JaneW is not loving the idea | ||
| JaneW | thinks harder | 11:14 |
| JaneW | being a kernel... how about types of nuts? | 11:15 |
| JaneW | a bit of a play on the kernel think? | 11:15 |
| fabbione | sounds good.. | 11:15 |
| JaneW | Happy Hazel | 11:15 |
| fabbione | let see how many flavours we have | 11:15 |
| JaneW | Perky Pecan | 11:15 |
| JaneW | Batty Brazilian | 11:16 |
| JaneW | Almond (the adjectives are hard) | 11:16 |
| JaneW | Pistacio (but starts with same letter as pecan and peanut) | 11:17 |
| JaneW | Crunchy Cashew | 11:17 |
| fabbione | http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph8.htm | 11:17 |
| JaneW | Wacky Walnut | 11:17 |
| JaneW | PInnut | 11:18 |
| JaneW | Pinenut | 11:18 |
| fabbione | ok you convinced me | 11:18 |
| JaneW | Walnut | 11:18 |
| JaneW | etc | 11:18 |
| fabbione | which one would you like to see as first? | 11:19 |
| JaneW | happy to help | 11:19 |
| JaneW | Chestnut, Macadamia | 11:19 |
| JaneW | plus Badgers eat nuts | 11:19 |
| JaneW | I think | 11:19 |
| JaneW | first one er... | 11:20 |
| fabbione | eheh i think so too | 11:20 |
| JaneW | Hazel - like the one in ice age | 11:20 |
| JaneW | oh no that was an acorn ;) | 11:20 |
| JaneW | sort of the same | 11:20 |
| fabbione | done | 11:20 |
| JaneW | yay | 11:20 |
| fabbione | now you will be doomed for the whoile breezy process in reminding us nuts names ;) | 11:21 |
| JaneW | so can I put 'contributed to Ubuntu Kernel' in my CV now? ;) | 11:21 |
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| fabbione | JaneW: sure: | 11:22 |
| fabbione | linux-source-2.6.12 (2.6.11.91-1.1) breezy; urgency=low | 11:22 |
| fabbione | The "Happy Hazel" Release. | 11:22 |
| fabbione | Welcome to JaneW as our new name release manager that kindly offered | 11:22 |
| fabbione | volunteer to find nuts names for our kernel. | 11:22 |
| fabbione | Changes by Fabio M. Di Nitto: | 11:22 |
| fabbione | this will appear shortly on ubuntu-changes... | 11:22 |
| JaneW | heehee | 11:22 |
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| Seveas | Is the next one going to be "Mad Macadamia"? | 11:31 |
| svenl | here is maybe more appropriate. | 12:01 |
| svenl | Is DVD burning supposed to work on the ppc kernel ? | 12:01 |
| svenl | # growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=archive.iso | 12:01 |
| svenl | Executing 'builtin_dd if=archive.iso of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0' | 12:01 |
| svenl | :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h] : Input/output error | 12:01 |
| svenl | seems not to be the case. | 12:02 |
| fabbione | i got that error with a broken burner | 12:04 |
| svenl | fabbione: well, the burner worked fine under mac os X, so ... | 12:05 |
| svenl | and the exact same brand of media. | 12:05 |
| svenl | will try building cdrecord with the DVD patch. | 12:06 |
| fabbione | svenl: i had really weird issues with my burner | 12:07 |
| fabbione | like it was partially working with windows | 12:07 |
| fabbione | but not in linux | 12:07 |
| svenl | fabbione: and on amd64, my burner still doesn't want to do DMA burning, and is thus very very slow. | 12:07 |
| fabbione | and sometimes viceversa | 12:07 |
| fabbione | 2 or 4 burns didn't really show the problem | 12:07 |
| svenl | fabbione: well, as this is the default powerbook burner, i guess lot of people, like maybe Kamion or benh, have been using it. | 12:07 |
| fabbione | svenl: that's not the point.. if your specific burner is broken... | 12:08 |
| fabbione | i had a lite-on | 12:08 |
| fabbione | that is very well known brand | 12:08 |
| svenl | well. | 12:08 |
| fabbione | probably i was the only one with that problem | 12:08 |
| svenl | yep. | 12:09 |
| svenl | but in this case, chances are good that it is a software problem, especially given the history of it. | 12:10 |
| svenl | Mmm, cdrtools broken patch number 40 didn't get fixed for hoary :/ | 12:10 |
| svenl | I am sure i reported this one months ago. | 12:10 |
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| svenl | damn, cdrecord fails too. | 12:26 |
| zul | hey | 12:46 |
| svenl | hi zul | 12:49 |
| zul | hey svenl | 12:49 |
| fabbione | hey zul | 12:51 |
| zul | hey fabbione | 12:51 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ stable: kernel-debian--pre1,1--2.6.11.92 | There are no kernel bugs.. only broken hardware | ||
| fabbione | meh | 12:52 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--pre1,1--2.6.11.92 | There are no kernel bugs.. only broken hardware | ||
| zul | heh shouldnt that be pre1.1 | 12:53 |
| fabbione | it was i typo when i did the branch | 12:53 |
| zul | ah ok | 12:53 |
| zul | at least i can close a whole bunch of bugs today | 12:55 |
| fabbione | yeah go ahead | 12:56 |
| fabbione | i didn't process bugzilla | 12:56 |
| fabbione | zul: mind to close mine too? | 01:03 |
| zul | sure | 01:03 |
| fabbione | or did you close all of them? | 01:03 |
| zul | ill just go through the changelog :) | 01:03 |
| fabbione | thanks | 01:03 |
| fabbione | or search for linux/PENDINGUPLOAD | 01:03 |
| zul | yep | 01:04 |
| zul | need to go potty | 01:05 |
| fabbione | zul: orig/dsc/diff.gz in the usual place | 01:12 |
| fabbione | for 92 i mean | 01:12 |
| zul | ok... | 01:12 |
| fabbione | sorry.. dsc and diff are still on the way | 01:13 |
| zul | not a problem...i just woke up :) | 01:13 |
| fabbione | that's why i am trying to be more detailed | 01:13 |
| fabbione | ok they are up now | 01:17 |
| zul | see this is what is bad about source base distros look at this guys CFLAGS http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072 | 01:30 |
| fabbione | hahahaha | 01:32 |
| fabbione | i am going off line for a while | 02:35 |
| fabbione | 92 is building everywhere | 02:35 |
| fabbione | i still need to commit the config changes | 02:35 |
| fabbione | but they are trivial | 02:35 |
| zul | yeah i noticed :) | 02:36 |
| fabbione | i am at patch5 :) | 02:36 |
| zul | im building it as well with some of my patches | 02:36 |
| fabbione | it has a fix for ia64 | 02:36 |
| fabbione | rocking | 02:36 |
| fabbione | i will be back later | 02:36 |
| zul | k | 02:36 |
| fabbione | and if you are ready i can start merging from you | 02:36 |
| zul | ill let you know :) | 02:37 |
| zul | argh.. | 04:00 |
| fabbione | argh what? | 04:01 |
| zul | that external driver that was in bugzilla doesnt build | 04:02 |
| fabbione | no shit... | 04:02 |
| fabbione | is that the dxr3+ driver? | 04:02 |
| zul | yep | 04:02 |
| fabbione | hmmmm | 04:02 |
| fabbione | it depends how it fails | 04:02 |
| fabbione | probably the fix is easy | 04:02 |
| zul | i might have found a fix already i2c.h changes | 04:02 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:03 |
| zul | er...i2c.h changed | 04:03 |
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| zul | hey dilinger how goes it? | 04:04 |
| fabbione | dilinger: started the new work? | 04:04 |
| dilinger | not bad. i really need a place to live | 04:04 |
| dilinger | fabbione: yea, last week | 04:04 |
| fabbione | is it any good? | 04:05 |
| dilinger | it's work :) | 04:07 |
| dilinger | it's not too bad | 04:07 |
| dilinger | i spent friday getting comfortable w/ openafs source | 04:08 |
| dilinger | it's impressively ugly | 04:08 |
| fabbione | amen... | 04:08 |
| fabbione | is it worth the inclusion in the kernel? | 04:08 |
| dilinger | i don't think it's license allows it | 04:08 |
| dilinger | i brought it up on the list | 04:08 |
| fabbione | isn't it gpl now? | 04:08 |
| dilinger | s/it's/its/ | 04:08 |
| dilinger | ibm public source | 04:09 |
| dilinger | pity, it would be nice to have it in the kernel (once it's cleaned up a bit) | 04:09 |
| fabbione | i can't find the licence on the page | 04:10 |
| dilinger | http://openafs.org/frameset/dl/license10.html | 04:11 |
| fabbione | scary | 04:12 |
| fabbione | i need a shower :) | 04:14 |
| fabbione | bbl | 04:14 |
| fabbione | even the most hardcore developer does wash once a month | 04:14 |
| dilinger | heh | 04:19 |
| dilinger | needs some performance tuning.. | 04:19 |
| dilinger | dilinger@furious13:~ $ time cp openafs-1.3.82-src.tar.gz foo | 04:19 |
| dilinger | real 3m9.146s | 04:19 |
| dilinger | 13MB file | 04:19 |
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| dilinger | i wonder how well kafs performs | 04:52 |
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| fabbione | why... | 05:54 |
| fabbione | why... | 05:54 |
| fabbione | why PPC IS SO RETARDED? | 05:54 |
| Lathiat | it has a personal vendetta agianst you fab | 05:54 |
| zul | i blame T-Bone | 05:55 |
| fabbione | it's because i don't own one.. yet | 05:55 |
| fabbione | drivers/built-in.o(.pmac.text+0x2d10): In function `pmac_wakeup_devices': | 05:55 |
| fabbione | : undefined reference to `pmac_tweak_clock_spreading' | 05:55 |
| fabbione | drivers/built-in.o(.pmac.text+0x3548): In function `pmac_suspend_devices': | 05:55 |
| fabbione | : undefined reference to `pmac_tweak_clock_spreading' | 05:55 |
| fabbione | this is 12rc4 | 05:55 |
| zul | no idea.. | 05:55 |
| fabbione | every fucking release is the same story | 05:58 |
| zul | drop ppc support :) | 05:58 |
| fabbione | that would be sane | 06:01 |
| zul | yay...something im actually qualified to do | 06:01 |
| fabbione | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/l/linux-source-2.6.12/2.6.11.91-1.1/ | 06:20 |
| fabbione | yay | 06:20 |
| fabbione | they start to appear :) | 06:20 |
| Lathiat | woo | 06:22 |
| Lathiat | you guys rock. | 06:22 |
| zul | we do | 06:23 |
| fabbione | let say we suck less than other teams :) | 06:25 |
| Lathiat | haha | 06:25 |
| zul | damn i have to clean the house today | 06:26 |
| fabbione | i can do the patch for you | 06:26 |
| fabbione | ops | 06:26 |
| zul | you can patch it? :) | 06:26 |
| zul | lol | 06:26 |
| fabbione | zul: just run make clean | 06:26 |
| fabbione | make -f zul clean | 06:27 |
| zul | dist-clean more like it | 06:27 |
| zul | yay it builds | 06:30 |
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| fabbione | hey jeff! | 06:34 |
| jbailey | Heya Fabio! (and everyone) | 06:35 |
| jbailey | When is linux-headers-2.6.10-5 going away? | 06:37 |
| jbailey | I want to upload klibc this morning. the lkh network bits all assume that glibc is present on the system, and I want to make sure that the upstream guy agrees with what I'm doing before I revert a pile of his changes. | 06:37 |
| fabbione | jbailey: after we will make 2.6.12 the default kernel | 06:37 |
| fabbione | in not too long i think | 06:38 |
| jbailey | 'kay, so I have a week, probablyl | 06:38 |
| fabbione | if not more.... | 06:38 |
| fabbione | we don't know when .12 final will be out | 06:38 |
| fabbione | and 12rc4 is not encouraging atm | 06:38 |
| jbailey | Ugh, really? | 06:38 |
| fabbione | ppc is broken | 06:38 |
| jbailey | I thought I had seen decent reports for rc3. | 06:38 |
| fabbione | when right this morning benh told me that 12rc4 is perfect on ppc | 06:39 |
| fabbione | well it doesn't even compile... | 06:39 |
| jbailey | Compiler skew between you and benh? | 06:39 |
| fabbione | drivers/built-in.o(.pmac.text+0x2d10): In function `pmac_wakeup_devices': | 06:39 |
| fabbione | : undefined reference to `pmac_tweak_clock_spreading' | 06:39 |
| fabbione | drivers/built-in.o(.pmac.text+0x3548): In function `pmac_suspend_devices': | 06:39 |
| fabbione | : undefined reference to `pmac_tweak_clock_spreading' | 06:39 |
| fabbione | this is just bad code | 06:39 |
| fabbione | nothing to do with the compiler | 06:39 |
| jbailey | Right. =) | 06:40 |
| fabbione | since benh is working on G5 | 06:40 |
| fabbione | everything else is broken | 06:40 |
| fabbione | and unsupported | 06:40 |
| fabbione | at this speed rate i will have to ask either for an official ppc porter | 06:41 |
| fabbione | or get rid of ppc as supported arch | 06:41 |
| jbailey | Hmm. | 06:41 |
| jbailey | I wonder if I have the skills to get into ppc porting at all. | 06:41 |
| fabbione | ppc is the post problematic arch i have ever seen | 06:41 |
| fabbione | you fix power3 and you break power4 | 06:41 |
| jbailey | Right, that's the scary part. | 06:41 |
| jbailey | I have a newworld and a g5. | 06:41 |
| fabbione | you change a line for powerpc and you break power3-smp | 06:41 |
| fabbione | it's really fucking annoying | 06:42 |
| jbailey | ah, nice. the linux-headers /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/include/asm seems to be pointed right per-arch. | 06:45 |
| fabbione | http://drunkendelight.com/content/picture/02213994.jpg | 06:46 |
| fabbione | AHNHAHAHA | 06:46 |
| fabbione | jbailey: yes, it's per arch | 06:46 |
| jbailey | Yeah, I just remember that last time I looked at the package (a year or two ago in Debian) it was not. | 06:47 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Oh dear. | 06:47 |
| jbailey | =) | 06:47 |
| zul | aw man.. | 06:50 |
| zul | bbl | 06:53 |
| fabbione | jbailey: in anycase i wouldn't base anything on 2.6.10 for breezy | 07:07 |
| fabbione | just start using 2.6.12 | 07:07 |
| fabbione | even if it is in universe | 07:07 |
| jbailey | Is it in universe? | 07:08 |
| jbailey | I saw that 2.6.11 is in there. | 07:08 |
| fabbione | it is on the way to universe | 07:08 |
| fabbione | only amd64 is there | 07:08 |
| fabbione | buildd are working on it | 07:08 |
| fabbione | unfortunatly the kernel takes ages to build without (shared) ccache | 07:08 |
| fabbione | r/wind goto 5 | 07:17 |
| fabbione | ops | 07:17 |
| lamont | fabbione: ppc is on #5/6, i386 #5/5 (but has arch: all). ia64, should anyone care, is on #2/4 | 07:32 |
| fabbione | lamont: goody... | 07:34 |
| fabbione | what about hppa? | 07:34 |
| fabbione | lamont: i already opened the dances for 12rc4 | 07:34 |
| lamont | fabbione: hppa is waiting for glibc | 07:34 |
| fabbione | ha | 07:34 |
| fabbione | i thought that was solved | 07:34 |
| lamont | s/solved/known/ | 07:35 |
| lamont | and solution available. | 07:35 |
| lamont | it's a matter of time to add it | 07:35 |
| fabbione | ok | 07:35 |
| lamont | and that's due sometime soonish | 07:35 |
| fabbione | rocking | 07:36 |
| fabbione | lamont: btw.. don't get crazy to grab the ABI files from 91-1.1 | 07:37 |
| lamont | heh | 07:37 |
| fabbione | it's pointless in the middle of RC's | 07:38 |
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| fabbione | lamont: argh.. why did the kernel failed on i386???? | 08:17 |
| fabbione | i DID BUILD ARCH ALL! | 08:18 |
| fabbione | openjade:/build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.12-2.6.11.91/debian/build/linux-source-2.6.12/Documentation/DocBook/wanbook.xml:3:61:E: error connecting to "www.oasis-open.org" (Connection timed out) | 08:18 |
| fabbione | there is something broken somewhere else | 08:18 |
| lamont | openjade:/build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.12-2.6.11.91/debian/build/linux-source-2.6.12/Documentation/DocBook/wanbook.xml:3:61:E: error connecting to "www.oasis-open.org" (Connection timed out) | 08:19 |
| lamont | fix openjade | 08:19 |
| fabbione | oh f**k | 08:19 |
| lamont | fabbione: and for future fun and joy, build in a chroot on a machine that is blocked from internet access | 08:20 |
| fabbione | I HATE THIS CRAP | 08:21 |
| fabbione | it was working before... | 08:22 |
| fabbione | it works from concordia.... | 08:22 |
| fabbione | so that means that concordia has inet access | 08:22 |
| === fabbione files a bug.. somebody will have to take care of it | ||
| fabbione | 10567 | 08:25 |
| zul | heylo | 08:26 |
| fabbione | bah | 08:26 |
| fabbione | all this work to get the kernel in | 08:26 |
| fabbione | and some retarded build-deps are broken | 08:26 |
| zul | xmlto? | 08:28 |
| fabbione | openjade | 08:28 |
| zul | stupid.. | 08:28 |
| fabbione | lamont: can't we give one buildd net access to fetch that file in the meantime? | 08:30 |
| lamont | no | 08:35 |
| dilinger | [NETLINK] : Fix infinite loops in synchronous netlink changes. | 08:35 |
| dilinger | fun | 08:35 |
| fabbione | yeah i saw that | 08:35 |
| fabbione | lamont: ok | 08:35 |
| fabbione | dilinger: i started using git | 08:35 |
| fabbione | it's preatty nice.. i like it | 08:36 |
| fabbione | cg-log -c > baz diff | 08:36 |
| dilinger | is that related to Xu's netlink vuln fixes? | 08:36 |
| dilinger | http://www.kernel.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=2a0a6ebee1d68552152ae8d4aeda91d806995dec | 08:36 |
| fabbione | dilinger: let me check | 08:36 |
| dilinger | fabbione: i'm not overly excited to use git, but for 2.6.12 i want to start up -as again.. which is going to require me to either use git, or write scripts to pull git stuff | 08:37 |
| dilinger | hopefully it's a bit more sane in the way it handles new changesets | 08:37 |
| fabbione | author David S. Miller <davem@sunset.davemloft.net> Tue, 03 May 2005 15:30:05 -0700 | 08:38 |
| fabbione | [PKT_SCHED] : netetm: trap infinite loop hange on qlen underflow | 08:38 |
| fabbione | there is also this one that is pretty neat :) | 08:38 |
| dilinger | i like the colored diff output from git's web interface | 08:38 |
| dilinger | purty ;) | 08:38 |
| fabbione | yeah that one is nice too | 08:39 |
| dilinger | looks like they are related | 08:39 |
| lamont | <!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN" | 08:39 |
| lamont | "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd" [] > | 08:39 |
| dilinger | -while ((skb = skb_dequeue(&sk->sk_receive_queue)) != NULL) { | 08:39 |
| dilinger | +while (qlen--) { | 08:39 |
| dilinger | +skb = skb_dequeue(&sk->sk_receive_queue); | 08:39 |
| lamont | hrm... maybe it's kernel related.... | 08:39 |
| dilinger | in xu's patch | 08:39 |
| dilinger | -while (qlen--) { | 08:40 |
| dilinger | +for (; qlen; qlen--) { | 08:40 |
| dilinger | skb = skb_dequeue(&sk->sk_receive_queue); | 08:40 |
| dilinger | in davem's | 08:40 |
| dilinger | heh, i never did end up meeting xu | 08:40 |
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| dilinger | vibe out was too comfy :) | 08:41 |
| fabbione | dilinger: i did send him to you :) | 08:41 |
| dilinger | oh? | 08:41 |
| fabbione | dilinger: but he promised to be back on sat.. and he didn't show up | 08:41 |
| fabbione | lamont: i can try to build again arch all | 08:42 |
| fabbione | but i did it all the times on concordia | 08:42 |
| lamont | fabbione: I'll upload a new linux-source that fixes the problem, after I fix it... | 08:42 |
| lamont | unless you want to... | 08:42 |
| fabbione | lamont: do you know what the problem is? | 08:42 |
| lamont | well, given that openjade doesn't reference www.oasis-open.org, but the templates do in the kernel source, I'm betting that a patch is in order... | 08:43 |
| fabbione | hmmm | 08:43 |
| lamont | specifically, build-depend: docbook-xml and then change the URL to file:///usr/share/xml/docbook/schema/dtd/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd | 08:43 |
| fabbione | let me check if it is fixed upstream | 08:43 |
| lamont | note that they may consider it a useful thing to depend on net access to build... | 08:44 |
| fabbione | there is no difference upstream | 08:45 |
| === lamont tests his fix | ||
| fabbione | the question is why it fails only on that one | 08:45 |
| lamont | ?? | 08:45 |
| fabbione | a lot of others have references to oasis | 08:45 |
| lamont | because after it fails on the first one, it stops trying??? | 08:46 |
| === lamont guesses | ||
| fabbione | if you look at the build log other docbook stuff are built before the wanbook | 08:46 |
| lamont | ok | 08:47 |
| fabbione | hmmm | 08:47 |
| lamont | nfc | 08:47 |
| fabbione | no it builds DocBook/man | 08:47 |
| fabbione | and they have no reference to oasis | 08:47 |
| fabbione | bah this thing is so complicate | 08:48 |
| fabbione | <!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V3.1//EN"[] > | 08:49 |
| fabbione | <!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN" | 08:49 |
| fabbione | "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd" [] > | 08:49 |
| fabbione | this is the change from 2.6.10 to 2.6.12 | 08:50 |
| fabbione | so clearly they did the right thing | 08:50 |
| fabbione | but that breaks our buildd | 08:50 |
| fabbione | and it is done on all documents | 08:50 |
| fabbione | you are right that it stops at the first one | 08:50 |
| lamont | right - but we have that file in the archive, if we want it... | 08:50 |
| fabbione | exactly | 08:50 |
| === lamont will make a patch | ||
| fabbione | so we need to patch all the documentation files | 08:50 |
| fabbione | brb for the meeting | 08:50 |
| zul | hmm...meeting? | 08:52 |
| zul | there is a meeting today? sheesh i thought it was tomorrow | 08:54 |
| lamont | meeting | 08:55 |
| lamont | breezy kickoff | 08:55 |
| zul | meh | 08:55 |
| lamont | fabbione: so this means I get to make -1.2, eh? | 08:56 |
| lamont | should I just touch all the ignore-abi-changes files? | 08:56 |
| JaneW | zul: MONDAY, that's today ;) | 08:56 |
| zul | JaneW: im on "holiday" ;) | 08:57 |
| lamont | JaneW: isn't it already tuesday for you, though??? :-) | 08:57 |
| JaneW | lamont: nope it's almost 9pm | 08:57 |
| lamont | fabbione: building something to test on my net-restricted hppa buildd. | 08:59 |
| fabbione | lamont: ok.. no rush | 09:01 |
| lamont | fabbione: yeah, but would be nice to have i386 there for rc3 | 09:01 |
| fabbione | i still believe the right fix should go in openjade that should always prefer a local copy and in case the net if the local is not available | 09:02 |
| lamont | or will rc4 be ready for upload shortly? | 09:02 |
| fabbione | lamont: rc4 is FTBFS on ppc and i have no clue why | 09:02 |
| lamont | fabbione: well, the kernel source _told_ it to use the net copy.... | 09:02 |
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| jbailey | fabbione: Is it the type of thing I could be useful to you at all for? I don't have a ton of time, though. | 10:42 |
| fabbione | jbailey: i need somebody that can be there and it is not overloaded | 10:43 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Yeah, that's not me at the moment. | 10:43 |
| fabbione | jbailey: exactly | 10:43 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Maybe draft me once the toolchain transition and early userspace are finished. | 10:44 |
| jbailey | So in a month or so. | 10:44 |
| fabbione | jbailey: don't worry | 10:45 |
| fabbione | zul: just go for it | 10:45 |
| zul | i will | 10:45 |
| fabbione | merge it in .92-1.1 | 10:46 |
| zul | yep just need to read up on it | 10:46 |
| fabbione | we also need to check if there is a unionfs that can actually build on ppc | 10:46 |
| fabbione | lamont: how is it going with the kernel test? | 10:46 |
| zul | wouldnt know...dont have access to ppc | 10:46 |
| fabbione | zul: yeah i know that :/ | 10:46 |
| === zul smacks T-Bone | ||
| zul | where is he btw? | 10:47 |
| zul | any particular version of squashfs? | 10:47 |
| fabbione | the latest? | 10:47 |
| lamont | fabbione: well, it's about a 2 hour build to just let it run, so I was, um, letting it run. | 10:47 |
| === lamont scream | ||
| lamont | s | 10:47 |
| fabbione | lamont: ehehe | 10:47 |
| fabbione | ok | 10:48 |
| === lamont grabs the '-' and the 'A', and beats sbuild with them. | ||
| fabbione | you didn't build arch: all, did you? | 10:49 |
| lamont | STFU | 10:49 |
| lamont | :-) | 10:49 |
| === fabbione goes and sits in a corner | ||
| === lamont will just build build-indep this time | ||
| fabbione | that won't help anyway | 10:50 |
| fabbione | iirc that part of the build is hairy | 10:51 |
| lamont | won't? | 10:51 |
| lamont | grumble | 10:51 |
| lamont | ok | 10:51 |
| fabbione | try... it might need to build some arch-dep stuff | 10:51 |
| === lamont relaunches an sbuild | ||
| lamont | or will in a minute | 10:51 |
| lamont | fabbione: sbuild -A started now. | 10:56 |
| fabbione | ok | 10:56 |
| lamont | linux-source-2.6.12: 02:37:30 (9 entries, sigma 01:29:45) | 10:56 |
| fabbione | yeah.. no ccache... | 10:56 |
| lamont | that's with ccache | 10:56 |
| zul | ok...doing a first pass with squashf | 10:56 |
| fabbione | oh | 10:56 |
| lamont | last build was 1:48:29 | 10:56 |
| zul | er..squashfs | 10:56 |
| lamont | the average has been steadily declining | 10:57 |
| fabbione | lamont: because we switched compiler | 10:57 |
| fabbione | from gcc-3.3 to 3.4 | 10:57 |
| lamont | right. | 10:57 |
| fabbione | so the cache has been invalidated | 10:57 |
| fabbione | + we added a few tons of lines of code | 10:57 |
| lamont | otoh, was that in -1.1 as of 0505-1343 DCtime | 10:57 |
| lamont | ?> | 10:57 |
| lamont | that was the last time I built -1.1 | 10:57 |
| fabbione | lamont: the gcc-3.4 transition? | 10:58 |
| fabbione | yes | 10:58 |
| lamont | and then this time, of course, I built 3/4 of it... | 10:58 |
| lamont | then the cache should be reasonably valid | 10:58 |
| fabbione | yes | 10:58 |
| fabbione | given that doko didn't upload another gcc-3.4 | 10:58 |
| lamont | cache hit 365530 | 10:58 |
| lamont | cache miss 465420 | 10:58 |
| fabbione | not that bad | 10:58 |
| lamont | well, actually, I'm building against hoary right now, so it's pretty stable wrt toolchain... .:-) | 10:59 |
| fabbione | considering how many times gcc has been updated in the last 3 days | 10:59 |
| fabbione | oh | 10:59 |
| lamont | my breezy chroot (hppa) is still a bit in flux. And I don't have an i386 buildd in that DMZ | 10:59 |
| lamont | files in cache 269272 | 11:01 |
| lamont | cache size 9.1 Gbytes | 11:01 |
| fabbione | 192.168.1.1:/mirrors/sparccache | 11:05 |
| fabbione | 20G 9.0G 9.8G 49% /opt/sparcbuildd/chroots/kernel/home/sparcbuildd/.ccache | 11:05 |
| zul | heh...i was going to say something stupid but im not now | 11:06 |
| zul | CC [M] fs/squashfs/inode.o | 11:10 |
| zul | LD [M] fs/squashfs/squashfs.o | 11:10 |
| lamont | cache hit 366420 | 11:10 |
| lamont | cache miss 465428 | 11:10 |
| lamont | not bad for a delta | 11:11 |
| fabbione | lamont: there are only few files that needs rebuild on date/time change | 11:12 |
| lamont | fabbione: right | 11:12 |
| lamont | hence this build should scream along to indep in < 2 hours or so. | 11:13 |
| === lamont must go fetch kid from school | ||
| fabbione | and i am going to sleep soon | 11:13 |
| fabbione | lamont: if the patch works, mind to upload and merge it where is needed? | 11:13 |
| lamont | fabbione: will do. | 11:14 |
| lamont | fwiw, I added *.ignore to the abi directory.. :-) | 11:14 |
| fabbione | cool | 11:14 |
| lamont | anyway, back in around 90 min | 11:14 |
| fabbione | good night | 11:14 |
| fabbione | zul: did you already open a new branch? | 11:15 |
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| zul | fabbione: yep | 11:24 |
| zul | infinity: you are doomed now | 11:25 |
| infinity | Probably. | 11:25 |
| infinity | You're Canadian? | 11:26 |
| zul | yep | 11:26 |
| zul | there is several of us here | 11:26 |
| infinity | Rogers has the most hideous hostnames. | 11:26 |
| zul | i know.. | 11:27 |
| zul | there squashfs added | 11:45 |
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