=== Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rtcm [~jman@217.129.142.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] hey all === jabra [~jabra@polish.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] hi === ajmitch_ will bbl === diamond [~diamond@194.46.79.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] lo folks [02:00] hi. [02:01] does anyone know what time the community council meeting is going to be at tomorrow? the wiki page ain't saying === Burgundavia [~corey@S01060010dcc226d1.du.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] tommorow is the breezy kick off meeting [02:01] at 19:00 utc [02:01] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Calendar [02:02] tseng: aye, saw that too [02:02] cc is the 10th [02:02] alledgedly [02:02] well, today is the 9th here ,-) [02:02] oh [02:12] ajmitch_: tseng hey mate [02:12] ajmitch_: how goes it [02:13] hi Unfrgiven [02:13] where is the meeting held? [02:13] #ubuntu-meeting [02:13] how are things tseng? [02:13] good thanks [02:14] tseng: settled back into normal life? [02:14] yes [02:14] mostly [02:14] good to hear [02:14] i got back from new zealand last night... trying to settle in again myself [02:14] i see you've been quite busy with mono packaging :) [02:15] yes [02:16] do you know whats going on with the mono debugger? i thought 1.1.7 would contain a release [02:16] dunno really [02:16] i dont do much development on mono yet, im in it for the cool apps [02:17] yeah same... but i'd like to get involved with using it.... [02:17] im too busy doing php and expect at work [02:17] you at work? [02:17] no, its sunday [02:17] but in general [02:17] Im not in a hurry to learn more programming languages [02:18] hehe... didnt realise :) its monday morning here [02:18] i thought you were a c++ developer? [02:18] hm no [02:18] i only know C++ basics [02:19] hrm breezy is going to rock so hard [02:20] yeah... gcc4 is a PITA though [02:20] nah [02:20] g++ 4 will be [02:21] ive got a package failing to build becuase of a kernel include failing to build... grrr [02:21] with the new headers? [02:21] we just got 2.6.11 or someat [02:22] up from 2.5.99-pre4324 [02:22] i havent tried with the 2.6.11 headers yet [02:22] when did that go in? === womble [~mpalmer@202.77.95.61] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] hm a few days ago [02:30] Subject: Accepted linux-kernel-headers 2.6.11.2-0ubuntu4 (source) [02:30] Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 20:30:02 +0100 (BST) (15:30 EDT) [02:34] tseng: hmmm ill give that a whirl. [02:35] just an idea [02:47] its a good one. ill give it a shot when i get home from work. [02:47] just out of interest. do you see any problems with having a breezy pbuilder environment on a debian sid box? [02:48] nope [02:48] ajmitch_ does that === ajmitch_ did that - now it's a sid chroot on a breezy box [03:22] although X is taking huge amounts of RAM now, which really is annoying === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:03] nite folks === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b58.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] morning [05:56] hi hi [05:56] hi schweeb! [05:56] wassup [05:57] i'm just waking up :-) [05:57] have we got an updated MOTUTodo for breezy yet? [05:57] nope [05:57] :( [05:57] i think we'll wait for the kickoff meeting later today [05:57] cool [05:58] we'll then hear the exact plan for UniverseCxxTransition [05:58] which will be a big target [05:58] been too busy to upgrade to breezy yet, so haven't really invested much time into looking for stuff to do [05:58] can't really goof around at the new job like I did at the old one [05:58] tomorow, i'll be in the CommunityCouncil meeting and make sure you all get approved for members [05:58] awesome [05:59] i can absolutely understand that - i hope you don't beat yourself up for it :-) [05:59] Malone now has a bunch of stuff :-) [05:59] hehe [06:00] so there's enough MOTUTodo ;-) [06:00] I miss my large, daily apt-get, so I need to go breezy now :) [06:00] MOTUToReview and MOTUNewPackages are quite full as well [06:00] breezy is particularly fine for me [06:00] yea [06:01] I figure it was a good idea to wait till a week or so after UdU [06:01] cause everyone would come back and destabilize everything cause they're all motivated [06:02] and we should spend time on team structures [06:02] ... creating ... [06:02] yes [06:02] so it will be easier for new interested people to get in and not just "fix packages" but do something they'd love to do [06:04] actually, it'd be nice to get the new laptop before I go breezy [06:04] this one is quickly turning into a hunk of junk [06:05] unfortunately i'll be very busy in the next weeks [06:05] thesis? [06:05] but i'll pop in every now and then [06:05] yes [06:05] i'll "register" it later today, then i'll have 3 months to finish it [06:05] heh [06:06] still one exam left as well, but then i'm finished [06:06] I'm done with school for a while :) === dholbach will add "review dholbach's code" and "fix dholbach's pathetic LaTeX markup" to MOTUTodo ;-) [06:07] lol [06:09] do you know why AaronLake is on CommunityCouncilAgenda? [06:09] hrm [06:09] lemme check [06:09] membership maybe? [06:09] he's already a MOTU and should be in the keyring as well [06:09] right [06:09] so i don't get, what he's doing there [06:09] MOTU should imply membership, right [06:09] nope [06:10] membership (by CC) first, then MOTU approval [06:10] I'll ask him tomorrow [06:10] (I work with him) [06:10] and if the key is good, it should go into keyring [06:10] cool [06:10] it was probably whiprush's doing [06:11] what time is the CC meeting? [06:11] i dunno yet :-((((( [06:11] nice. [06:11] i asked mako like 10 times [06:15] yea, once I get membership, then I can blog about it, and get all fired up again :P [06:15] haha! ROCK! [06:15] even more Ubuntu cheerleading! :-) [06:16] kinda hard not to Ubuntu cheerlead when whip's around [06:16] absolutely [06:16] he's like a big, cuddly, Ubuntu/Linux/GNOME cheerleader [06:17] i hope i'll meet all of you soon :-) [06:17] come to Detroit ;) [06:17] I am not cuddly [06:17] hey whiprush! [06:17] hey dholbach [06:17] whiprush: you ROCK! [06:17] hey did you get sick after udu? [06:17] no, i didnt [06:17] man [06:17] lucky [06:17] you're alive again? [06:17] yeah [06:18] he's done nothing but sleep for a week [06:18] what happened to you? [06:18] it truly is his superpower [06:18] got sick [06:18] been messed up all week [06:19] :-/ [06:19] I think I'm ok now [06:19] so you're ready for wiki/MOTUGNOME now? ;-) [06:20] well, not now [06:20] in the morning I will [06:20] :) [06:20] don't worry [06:21] whew [06:21] I was worried that page would be huge [06:21] but it will be nice, once we can decide on bigger matters within a team and make things happen [06:21] and not just fix random packages === whiprush nods [06:22] you said it "sky will be the limit" :-) [06:22] heh [06:24] man [06:24] universecandidates keeps getting bigger [06:25] yes, and i guess it's a good time to start new packaging [06:25] we're not in millions of transitions yet [06:25] whiprush: why is kop on the CC agenda? [06:25] and over the next months those packages have enough time stabilize until release [06:26] i think, i'll dedicate a day to just review packages [06:26] so we make a bit of progress [06:26] he added himself iirc [06:26] that'd be a good idea for a team... a few MOTUs who are dedicated to reviewing [06:26] I just read up [06:26] I told him, didn't know that motu meant membership [06:27] he should already have it [06:27] whiprush: i think he was approved by the CC already [06:27] well he wasn't on the list of members [06:27] k [06:27] we should take him off then? [06:27] i'll clarify with elmo, but i think he's already in the keyring [06:27] he's already uploading [06:27] afaik [06:28] UbuntuMembers is WAY incomplete [06:28] so, he's gotta be on it [06:28] ah ok [06:28] schweeb: i wouldn't like to be dedicated reviewer guy :-) [06:28] heh [06:29] i think it's good if everybody just has a look every now and then [06:29] not necessarily dedicated, but a list of people who are willing to review that people can look at and go to [06:29] when we are more MOTUs, it will be no problem any more [06:29] yea [06:29] i will write a mail to ubuntu-devel@ and ask the main guys to help out a bit [06:30] hmm === schweeb chuckles at a thread he sees in u-d [06:30] dude that jdong backport guy lives in our state schweeb [06:30] schweeb: whish one? [06:30] "Evolution becoming unusable" === dholbach neglected it [06:31] I met jdongson at LFNW [06:31] he is the other backport guy [06:31] schweeb, whiprush: i never saw a single upload from metallikop [06:31] to main? [06:31] I don't think he has [06:31] he can't up to main [06:31] not to main [06:31] (apart from the ones the MOTUs did) [06:31] hey crimsun, hey Burgundavia :-) [06:32] lo daniel :) [06:32] salut dholbach [06:32] seems sane [06:32] we talked about MOTUgames (which I have been neglecting) [06:32] crimsun: you already have a xfce team in malone? [06:33] dholbach: not yet, just on the wiki [06:33] gah, too many passwds [06:34] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people//+newteam [06:34] i made one for the gnome team [06:34] thanks! [06:40] ogra, you around? [06:41] Burgundavia: it's still 06:40, so i suspect he's still asleep [06:41] :-) [06:43] ah === Burgundavia has no idea where ogra is in the world [06:44] you people sleep? :p [06:44] Burgundavia: germany [06:46] ah [06:46] ok [06:46] is quarter to 10 here [06:46] pm [06:47] sent the reviewing mail [06:48] ok, MOTUXfce created on malone. [06:48] how is the ID of that account? [06:49] /people/motuxfce [06:49] night guys [06:49] HA, assigned you guys a bug ;-) [06:49] sleep tight, schweeb [06:50] crimsun: #584 [06:50] thanks [06:51] unfortunately https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/assigned?name= seems broken atm :-/ [06:51] i'll add it to MaloneUniverseWishList [06:52] hmm [06:52] we'll have a meeting with the malone guys presumably next week [06:53] I am probably going to be signing the NDA to help with malone next week [06:53] just fyi [06:54] nda? [06:54] non-disclosure agreement [06:54] so I can see all the bugs, and join the mailing list, etc. [06:54] provided the canonical devs accept me [06:54] oh cool, you got in touch with them? [06:55] yes, I was beating my head against a wall about malone [06:55] and I asked about a list of malone bugs [06:55] so I could file them without filing dups [06:55] MaloneUniverseWishList is growing :-) [06:55] and one thing led to another, and that was best solution that we could come up with === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0611.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089E705.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] <\sh> morning [07:51] morning === susus [~sz@p5089E705.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] hi all [07:52] anyone interested in porting initng to ubuntu/debian? [07:56] hey \sh, ivoks, ajmitch_ [07:57] daniel! :) [07:57] dholbach [07:58] looks like I have to kill X, up to 600MB mem usage already [07:58] something seriously wrong with it, I think :) [07:58] shad0w1e upgrade to ext3 is without loosing data, upgrade to other filesystems needs formating partition [07:58] damn [07:59] <\sh> looks like that I have enough work for the ubuntu week ;) [07:59] \sh: did you read the backlog? [08:00] <\sh> dholbach: no.. [08:00] <\sh> dholbach: brief me shortly :) [08:00] ah ok, we talked about the MOTU work since 05:57 :-) [08:00] <\sh> dholbach: oh...at this time i was sleeping ;) [08:01] <\sh> dholbach: i read your "cry for help" on -devel ML ;) [08:01] dholbach: basically waiting for the kickoff meeting & the c++ transition? [08:01] yeah, plus review action and team forming [08:01] and setting up teams.. [08:01] yeah, I need to get onto reviewing as well [08:01] <\sh> dholbach: but pyqt maintainer didn't release any new release, so I have to prepare my patchset [08:02] \sh: go ahead... i'll do a review day at the end of the week [08:02] <\sh> I'm sick and tired of those upstream maintainers [08:02] <\sh> dholbach: thx...there is enough in my list :) [08:02] \sh: try to relax... they're humans as well [08:03] dholbach: what do you think of having a MOTU review day where a group of us will get together & review? [08:03] think it's possible? [08:03] sure, if there's a set day and time [08:03] <\sh> dholbach: sure they are...but pyqt is maintained on a commercial basis ;) [08:03] bastrds :) [08:04] ajmitch_, crimsun: i think it would be even better if we had different review days :-) [08:04] dholbach: sure, but a common, set time might be good [08:04] <\sh> hmm..is it possible to put me on the motu wannabe list even if I'm not a member right now? [08:04] i don't want to push people into jobs, but the more reviewers the merrier :-) [08:04] push away ;) [08:05] \sh: tomorrow should be the CC meeting [08:05] although we have no time yet [08:05] i will vouch for all of you who did work in the MOTU crew [08:06] <\sh> dholbach: apr 10th it's written in the topic [08:06] thanks [08:06] if I'm not around in time for the kickoff, speak up for me doing stuff, will you? ;) [08:07] ajmitch_: for each topic i will wait 10 seconds and then say "ajmitch is working on it", "ajmitch wanted to take care of it", "ajmitch is upstream maintainer", "ajmitch wanted to do that for ages", right? [08:07] ;-) [08:07] lol [08:07] <\sh> *lol* [08:07] ouch [08:07] and then, in the end, say "ajmitch is god" [08:08] it's gtk's fault, which is maintained by ajmitch. [08:08] :) [08:09] hahaha :-) [08:11] dholbach: uh, maybe not quite that enthusiastic, thanks ;) [08:11] whiprush: remember, we blame gtk boogs on dholbach now [08:11] <\sh> hmmm [08:12] and if there should ever be a broken gnome-{panel,session,...}, blame it on me :-) [08:12] <\sh> wil wheaton runs debian [08:12] file that bug in malone. Who does malone? Who else, ajmitch. [08:12] that's why he joined the gnome team :) [08:12] <\sh> we should encourage him with a nice gnome or kde start trek tng theme to switch to ubuntu ;) [08:12] hey even I'm not crazy enough to work on malone [08:13] <\sh> "ensign crusher, report to bridge, cpt. shuttleworth is awaiting your report" [08:18] omg :) [08:19] <\sh> hehehe [08:19] <\sh> i read it on ian murdocks blog now [08:20] <\sh> it appears to be a deja vu, might the matrix has been changed or whatever, but in the moment I'm watching star trek tng (season 1-7) [08:20] <\sh> and now, I'm reading this, time to blog ;) === aisipos [~anton@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:27] dunno if you heard it, but CC meeting is on May 10th, 16:00 UTC [08:33] <\sh> oh..tomorrow 18hundread hours [08:33] <\sh> then i have to come early to work [08:33] \sh: if you can't make it, i'll make sure everything's alright for you [08:37] <\sh> dholbach: thx..I hope I can make it :) well, at least i will attend a few minutes later [08:42] i'm off to uni - see you later [08:43] <\sh> harhar [08:43] <\sh> I have it ;) [08:45] <\sh> http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/14-Ensign-Crusher,-report-to-bridge,-Cpt.-Shuttleworth-is-awaiting-your-report.html [08:45] <\sh> just for the fun of it ;) [08:47] :-) [08:47] byebye === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b58.pool.terralink.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Verlassend"] [08:47] <\sh> cu dholbach === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-204-245.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cc [~cc@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [~spacey@145.33.144.135] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === p0m [wodann@203-206-24-134.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [~daniel@td9091a06.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] re === koke [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jeld [~jeld@cpe-68-173-159-99.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] hello all [10:36] I have a question about deb building, would this be the right channel to ask? [10:41] hi all [10:41] whiprush ! [10:42] hey ogra === jeld [~jeld@cpe-68-173-159-99.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [10:42] whiprush, hey, do you read ubuntu-users ? [10:42] occasionally [10:42] what's up? [10:42] you should [10:42] Well, I /try/ [10:42] but I usually skip over stuff [10:42] lots of requests for websites like spreadfirefox.com ;) [10:42] oh [10:42] already on that [10:42] :) [10:42] i answered some [10:43] I mailed the one guy [10:43] pointing people to the BOF spec === whiprush nods === dholbach waits for the magic word... :-) [10:43] I have been out all week though [10:43] I am now back [10:43] and THE FRIDGE is my priority. [10:43] YES [10:43] GIVE ME THEFRIDGE! :_) [10:43] GET IN THE FRIDGE [10:43] O.o [10:44] fresh from the vegetable drawer [10:44] since there are no mail adresses on the udu wiki, someone (you or jdub) should join the duiscussion i think [10:44] I will in a few hours when I get to work. [10:45] to point out that someone is working on it... and to ancourage them to join forces ;) === whiprush nods [10:45] i was off to a slow start since thom infected everyone with his flu. [10:46] thom ? [10:46] nah, that was sladen [10:46] (I'm pretty sure) [10:46] i've been told thom was patient zero [10:46] oh [10:46] sladen was in my room though [10:47] i'm blaming jdub, personally [10:47] no wonder I almost died [10:47] know if riddell got sick? [10:49] whiprush: I've been in bed all week [10:50] oh... poor you :-/// [10:50] Riddell: me too. [10:50] I couldn't even go to work. [10:50] curse you sladen. [10:51] I will ridicule him on my blog for such insolance. [10:51] jordi was pretty sick as well [10:51] I havn't heard much from sladen since he went to Malbourne, I suspect he's been sent to one of those refugee centres for failing to fill in some form [10:51] heh [10:51] he'll just bike out of Australia back home to the UK [10:52] I am content in blaming him for the plague [10:52] there was one day where he was in bed the whole day [10:52] that would be my bed too [10:52] tfheen: haha :-) [10:52] hahah [10:52] yeah [10:53] poor sladen [10:54] Riddell: sladen was in your bed? [10:55] Treenaks: yes, spreading his germs [10:55] heh [10:57] heh [10:57] you guys, the poor oke was sick also [11:05] whiprush: hey dude [11:05] hey [11:05] hey Unfrgiven [11:06] hey dholbach [11:06] how goes it guys [11:06] just got home from work and then grocery shopping === encolpe [~encolpe@levallois-1-81-57-180-153.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] I am headed to work in a minute [11:07] whiprush: oh i see... well have a nice day :) [11:07] heh [11:07] dholbach: what time is it out your way? [11:07] I'll have a monday === encolpe [~encolpe@levallois-1-81-57-180-153.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [11:07] 11:07 [11:07] whiprush: :) well have a nice monday then ;) [11:08] and i'm awake for 6 hours now *yawn a bit* [11:08] dholbach: woah... how come? [11:08] i was SO tired yesterday... went to bed at 21:00 [11:08] now i'll prepare some black tea and get cracking on my thesis [11:08] dholbach: ah right... yeah im tired as today... havent slept much the last two nites... i want to have an early one tonight but i know it wont happen [11:09] :-))) [11:09] dholbach: whats the topic of your thesis? is it for your masters? [11:09] it's not a masters degree, we have different degrees in germany, but yes... i'll finish my studies with it [11:10] Unfrgiven: i work on a server and a library to store user preferences remotely [11:12] dholbach: for your thesis? [11:12] yes [11:12] dholbach: i meant for your masters? [11:13] erm... i dunno how to answer your question [11:13] dholbach: hehe ok let me explain. is your thesis part of study for a degree? a phd? [11:14] yes [11:14] i'm a "diplom-informatiker (fh)" afterwards, if that helps you :-) === Fackamato [fackamato@2002:d9d1:f78:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:16] Hi [11:16] Anyone noticed that the wiki is kunda buggy? [11:16] kinda** [11:17] what's going wrong? [11:17] YES [11:17] the wiki has always been buggy [11:17] heh [11:17] well, tried to change my password (just registered), tried two times and got errors both the times [11:17] then after a minute or so it had changed itself, forcing me to re-login [11:18] and now I tried to add a comment, but I got an error [11:18] dholbach: so did the author of the fast-user-switch-applet email you back? with regards to the wierd configure dependency on gdm? [11:18]