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lamontbuilding #4/4 for the arch-all tst12:55
lamonttest12:55
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=== lamont gets a request for REISER4
zulagain?01:28
lamontdoesn't seem to be there yet, or is it?01:30
zulnope01:31
zulmakes me nervous :)01:32
lamontwell, it's released now, at least...01:37
lamontarch-dep build done, working on arch-indep now01:38
lamontfinally01:38
zulhmm?01:54
zulreiserfs4 has been released?01:55
lamontthat's what the guy who asked how hard it would be to make a hoary install CD supporting it said...01:56
zulok he might be on crack..01:56
zuloh...well according to their website.01:57
zulit has been released but still hasnt hit linus's tree and he is on vacation :)01:58
dilingerwait02:00
dilingerpeople *want* reiser4?02:00
zulapparently02:00
dilingeryou'd think they would've learned their lesson w/ reiser3..02:00
zul*cough* https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1050602:01
dilingerheh02:02
dilingerThe Great Ubuntuists respond: "you don't really want this.  you really really don't want this."02:03
crimsun"and because you really really don't want it, you won't get it" =)02:03
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infinitydilinger : The only lesson users seem to learn is "a new upstream version number will surely fix everything!"02:14
zulworks for me :)02:14
dilingeri like how he says it's supported by hans reiser02:18
dilingeras if that's a mark of quality one would want to strive towards02:18
infinitySure, if we pay a support contract to him.02:18
zuldilinger: wheres this?02:19
dilingerThese patches apply cleanly, they are supported by Hans Reiser & company02:19
zulmeh..02:20
zulwell...time to go spend time with my wife...bbl02:20
crimsuncya02:21
infinityRight from the horse's mouth:02:23
infinity"We must caution that just as Linux 2.6 is not yet as stable as Linux 2.4, it will also be some substantial time before V4 is as stable as V3."02:23
infinityIf they claim reiser4 is less stable than reiser3, I'm frightened.02:23
lamontlol02:36
lamontProcessing blk_stop_queue02:36
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lamontarch:all adds about 2.5 hours to the build process, before it dies because brilliance here forgot to add the build-dep.03:25
lamontanybody home? (/me is looking for someone who was at the keysigning in UDU)03:26
=== infinity raises hand.
zulfabbione: merge if you wish, new rt2500, rt2400, squashfs, and some bugfixes04:52
dilingerright04:56
dilingerkeysigning04:56
dilingeri should do that now04:56
zulgrr...some poeple piss me off05:14
fabbionemorning05:43
zulhey fabbione 05:43
zulhow goes it?05:44
fabbionejust woke up05:45
zulnifty05:45
zulim just about to go to bed :)05:45
fabbionewhy did you split the rt2x00 driver?05:45
zulbecause i was asked to by a user...05:45
zulagainst my better judgement05:46
fabbionebut is there a tech reason for it?05:46
zulno05:46
fabbionelamont: are you still awake?05:46
zulnight05:47
zulthe heat is starting to get to me05:48
fabbionenight zul05:48
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Drako60anyone awake?09:10
fabbioneyes09:11
Drako60i'm curious as to why initrd seems to be loading all my modules and not /etc/modules09:11
fabbioneDrako60: this is not a channel where we do general support. only kernel development related topics09:12
fabbioneyou can ask in #ubuntu09:12
Drako60ok someone suggested i ask here a few days ago09:13
fabbioneinitrd loads all the modules that it believes to be required to boot the system09:13
fabbioneetd/modules is parsed at a later stage09:13
fabbione(short answer)09:14
jbaileyDrako60: If you need to add stuff to that list, use /etc/mkinitrd/modules09:45
jbaileyDrako60: You then need to regenerate your initrd, though.09:45
fabbionethis documentation build thingy is a total fuckage10:26
fabbioneahhhhh10:32
fabbionegot it10:32
Lathiatheh10:35
Lathiatwheres my kernel! ;)10:35
fabbionei am waiting ppc to finish the build10:36
fabbioneand i will be able to upload10:36
Lathiatwhat machines do you have backing the ppc builds on buildd?10:36
fabbioneonly one porting machine and 3 buildds10:38
Lathiatporting machine?10:39
fabbionewell i need a machine where i can test build the kernel10:39
fabbionethat one is called a port machine10:39
Lathiatright10:39
Lathiatand then 3 that do the actual building into the archives?10:39
fabbioneright10:39
Lathiatwhat kinda machines?10:39
fabbionecan't remember10:42
fabbioneg5 i think10:42
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jbaileycc: Hey!10:52
jbaileycc: You've come to visit us again, does this mean we did drag you over to the dark side? =)10:52
Mithrandirhiya jeff10:55
jbaileyHeya Tollef.10:58
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jbaileyX2?11:00
Mithrandirdualcore AMD CPU11:00
jbailey*lol*11:01
MithrandirI wonder when we'll see x40-style laptops with them.  mmm..11:02
jbaileyHopeflly soon.11:02
jbaileyThat way the old amd64 laptops will be driven down in price even further.11:02
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ccjbailey: i'm usually idling here ;-)11:03
Mithrandirthe current set of amd64 laptops are "media center" laptops.11:03
Mithrandirhi cc11:03
ccbut no, haven't been dragged, per se11:03
cchi Mithrandir 11:03
fabbionehumpf11:28
fabbionei did something half stupid11:28
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fabbionejeee too many branches!11:30
hormsyes11:54
fabbioneyeah i got lost in branching the release and tags :)12:15
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thomi may as well accept my fate...12:17
fabbioneUHAAAA12:18
fabbioneyay12:18
fabbionewelcome dude12:18
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fabbioneand here is the second one12:20
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chmj:P 12:20
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zulhey02:04
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lamontfabbione: testbuild finished at 0251 my time... 02:40
lamontdoing the dance now02:40
fabbionehey lamont 02:46
fabbionelamont: meh i already uploaded 92-1.1 with a fix02:46
fabbionei didn't find anything here in the logs...02:47
lamontfabbione: great - saves me the merge time. :0)02:49
fabbioneeheh02:49
lamontcommitted kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre1--2.6.11.91--patch-3902:51
lamontA  patches/documentation_docbook-net.dpatch02:52
lamontfabbione: the penultimate test build was missing the build-depend on docbook-xml02:52
fabbionelamont: the real fix was adding xmlto as build-dep02:53
fabbionei did purge docbook-xml02:53
lamontfabbione: even better02:53
fabbioneand removed the default gw02:53
fabbioneit was asking for xmlto02:53
fabbioneadded that one02:53
fabbionebtw02:54
fabbioneFYI02:54
lamontkewlness02:54
fabbionethom is getting the "welcome to kernel team bug that kills my debian/ dir"02:54
fabbioneahah02:54
fabbionenow.. zul took 2 days to figure it out02:54
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thomheh02:54
fabbionethom: i can give you an hint02:55
zulyou are all bastards02:55
fabbionegrabbing the debian/ dir from baz is not enough02:55
fabbionezul: this is so true!02:55
lamontthom: zgrep ^diff linux-source_<oldversion>.diff.gz02:55
zuli know...its obvious02:55
zuland once now that you all know that you are bastards...im happier02:56
fabbionethom: who sais that debian/ is the only thing contained in the diff.gz :)02:56
lamontthom: s/^diff/^---/02:57
zuloh...so you help thom out right away :P02:58
lamontzul: I was sleeping while you were working on it.02:58
zulhehe02:58
fabbioneanyway i am off02:59
fabbionei will be back tomorrow02:59
fabbionei still don't feel super 100%02:59
fabbioneand i am supposed to be spending time with my wife today02:59
fabbioneit's her bday03:00
lamontfabbione: you better go then.03:00
fabbioneyeah03:00
zulbbl...i have to run errands today03:00
fabbionelamont: how are the buildd going on kernel?03:00
fabbioneamd64 is done03:00
fabbionei am more worried about i38603:00
lamonti386 is building the last flavor03:01
mvirkkilzul: Just popped in to say thanks for the hollywood+/dxr3 support :-) Haven't tried it yet though.03:01
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Drako60hmm i wish i could figure this problem out03:05
fabbionemvirkkil: difficult to try.. it's not in the archive yet :)03:05
fabbionei am off03:05
fabbionecya guys03:06
mvirkkilfabbione: I just read that zul had marked the bug as fixed in bugzilla. 03:10
zulwhen the next upload goes through03:11
mvirkkilNot familiar with the process. Any etA?03:12
zultoday i think not 100% sure03:12
mvirkkilCool. I was thinking along the lines of weeks :-)03:13
zulnope03:13
mvirkkilMust say that that was one of the quickest fixes for an rfe I've filed.03:13
zuli was home at the time03:14
Drako60can i ask a question no one in #Ubuntu seems to be able to clarify this for me03:15
thomgrah, you guys all suck :-) that's a truely silly patch 03:16
lamontthom: yeah03:17
lamontDrako60: go ahead and ask another question....03:17
fabbionenow.. this is scary.. my wife and i were supposed to go shopping.. she decided to go to sleep03:18
chmjhahaha03:18
Drako60ok well i get an error from Nforce3-250 durring boot saying BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly, and i can't figure out where this error is coming from other then related to DMA, which has lead me to believe its A. the motherboard. B the bios. or C. the module being loaded03:19
fabbioneor simply a combination03:20
fabbioneor the IDE cable is not the correct one (mostlikely)03:21
thomhrm, we should totally teach dp-e-p to build hardlinked trees, too03:21
fabbionei am not sure you can03:21
fabbionespecially because you can have source in  partion A and /tmp on B03:22
fabbionethat will break hardlinks03:22
zulfabbione: wll it is her bday03:22
Mithrandircp -al should work fine.03:22
fabbionezul: ???03:22
zulgah...well it is your wife's birthday03:23
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fabbioneyeah but there are NO women in this world that can resist to shopping03:23
thomfabbione: i don't think that's a particular problem; you could just make dpep build the tree in the same parent dir if it turns out to be a problem03:23
zulfabbione: i think you found one 03:24
Drako60ok thanks fabbione thats what i was thinking but i wasn't sure, and i wanted to know if i could check in what order initrd was loading the modules, i don't know if lsmod shows the order loaded or not03:24
fabbionezul: nah...03:24
fabbioneDrako60: reverse order.. yes it does03:24
fabbionetop is the most recent03:24
fabbionebut it has nothing to do with the modules03:24
Drako60well i'll deal with the cables tomorrow, atleast that will narrow the issue down03:28
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fabbionebaz commit -s'Update amd64/ia64/sparc abi files'03:36
fabbioneYAY03:37
fabbionefirst set of abi files...03:37
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=== thom goes to get lunch while this kernel builds
fabbioneyay03:56
fabbionei386 successful03:57
chmj:-) 03:57
Lathiatwoo03:58
zulmeh...console_macros.h changed03:58
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zulor doesnt exist anymore03:59
fabbionezul: ah no i rememeber.. the rt2500 doesn't build on ppc anymore03:59
fabbionethe one before the split did03:59
zulhow come?03:59
fabbionethe last one doesn't03:59
fabbionedifferent code?03:59
zulprobably03:59
fabbioneit was ranting about some endian things04:00
fabbione+ other stuff04:00
zulfrig..04:00
thombonus, skge actually compiles ;-)04:00
fabbionethom: on all 6 arches?04:01
thomjust amd64-generic so far04:01
fabbionethom: there might be light at the end of the tunnel :)04:01
thomi just want to test it first :-)04:01
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fabbionecya tomorrow guys04:06
zultodles04:07
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thomguys, can you have a look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/arch/thom@ubuntu.com--fandango/ kernel-debian--pre1,2--2.6.11.92--patch-204:44
thomand check i've not done anything *stoooopid*04:44
chmjdid you just remove that patch ?05:02
dilingerthom: like, UHF stupid?05:08
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thomuhf?05:29
dilingerit's a movie.  i'm guessing that's a no05:38
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lamontdilinger: funny movie, too06:22
dilingerit and family guy are the only dvds i own (uhf was $5 in some bargain bin.  i couldn't pass it up)06:24
zuldoh...i forgot about the cc today..07:18
zulthom: did you get somet to check your patch?07:25
zulreal funny..weird al and michael richards07:25
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zulok i had enough of oprah10:10
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