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seginsobersabre: what's your arch? Ia32?12:00
pvhsegin: is it stupid or ignorant?12:00
sobersabres/glsas/glass12:00
seginpvh: ill bet on both.12:00
sobersabresegin, i have many.12:00
sobersabre;12:00
seginDoes anyone here know anything what-so-ever about Ubuntu PowerPC?12:00
sobersabresegin, why do you ask ?12:00
sobersabresegin, what is the question ... ?12:01
seginwhat is the minimum required class of PPC CPU?12:01
sobersabrenew world12:01
metalsand`schoolWhat's a PPC CPU?12:01
sobersabresegin, ubuntu is on 2.612:01
segini have a 603e and the install disk freezes every time12:02
sobersabreheh12:02
seginmetalsand`school: PowerPC CPU12:02
sobersabreyou should go for docs12:02
metalsand`schoolWhat exactly is that?12:02
seginmetalsand`school: like a pentium, but completely diffrent :)12:02
sobersabremetalsand`school, it is ibm's cpu, "power PC"12:02
metalsand`schoolHrmmm, how old of technology is that?12:02
sobersabreapple use them on macintosh computers12:02
sobersabremetalsand`school, it is the newest technology, actually12:02
metalsand`schoolI didn't know it was possible to run Linux on a mac12:03
seginsobersabre: no, it freezes without making any visual outpu what-so-ever. the BIOS cursor and checkerboard pattern are still showing12:03
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ivoksmetalsand lol :)12:03
hybrid_gothmetalsand: it is a cpu made by pegaous ibm or motorola12:03
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ivoksmetalsand linux and freebsd can run on almost all platforms12:03
hybrid_gothmetalsand: it is superior to all12:04
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metalsandivoks: Whant to take another crack at it? :D12:04
JairunCalothhow do I stop the x-windows and get to a prompt. I need to install my video drivers12:04
ivoksWHAT?! PowerPC?!12:04
sobersabrehybrid_goth, it is ibm's technology...12:04
seginivoks: does PPC linux needf a G3?12:04
ivoksmetalsand no thanks... i don't know with hostap12:04
metalsandlol12:04
metalsandk.12:04
ivoks?12:04
hybrid_gothsobersabre: yea but there is other ppc12:04
sobersabreyes, as core ... even in fpga12:05
metalsandWait, so Apple doesn't make their own CPUs?12:05
sobersabreby xilinx12:05
hybrid_gothivoks: ppc is superior12:05
sobersabreanyway.12:05
hybrid_gothmetalsand: no12:05
sobersabrei must go.12:05
sobersabrecheers12:05
metalsandCheers12:05
seginhybrid_goth: The PowerPC CPU was made by the AIM alliance, Apple, IBM, and Motorola. this fact is evident as originally the PowerPC logo was copyrighted by Motorola.12:05
metalsandI like that12:05
ivokshybrid_goth to PC yes, but isn't best technology12:05
hybrid_gothivoks: dont tell me sparc is better12:05
ivokssegin motorola isn't working on ppc any more12:05
hybrid_gothsegin: what about the P one12:06
ivokshybrid_goth alpha12:06
seginhybrid_goth: All older PPC chips have a motorola logo on them... can't say bout the newer ones12:06
metalsandHrmm. I don't think the processing power of a top of the line G5 could compete with the top of line PC.12:06
seginivoks: no shit. write me up a memo and file it under "shit i alerady know"12:06
ivoksmetalsand ?!12:06
hybrid_gothsegin: yea there was a ppc but not apple12:06
metalsandAnd there's absolutely NO chance it could compete memory bandwidth or graphically.12:06
ivoksmetalsand G5 is faster12:06
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T5its completely useless discussing this, i386 has won... thats it at least in absolute numbers12:06
k31thhumm i might ditch my gentoo install on my laptop and ubuntu it12:07
k31th'maybe'12:07
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hybrid_gothcorrect me if i am wrong but didnt ibm make the first dual core cpu12:07
hybrid_gothand it was ppc12:07
seginhybrid_goth: Apple still had a hand in it's design. Or are you stating that wikipedia is wrong?12:07
metalsandi368 = ?12:07
seginmetalsand: i386 = intel12:07
metalsandWhich model12:07
hybrid_gothsegin: yea it maybe b/c i believe there is still like an old world mac company but doesnt use mac os12:07
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ivoksheh, even microsoft uses PPC for development of XBOX games...12:08
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wasabi_anybody used ndb-client?12:08
hybrid_gothivoks: xbox 360 uses ppc12:09
metalsandWow12:09
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ivokswell... there u go :)12:09
metalsandHow the hell is Microsoft supporting a primary used product by Apple12:09
tronddHi! Today I installed ubuntu on two machines my self and persuaded two friends to try it on their laptop... Thats how impressed I am with it. Thanks to everyone who contribute to it!12:09
ivokstrondd spread the word12:09
hybrid_gothmetalsand: m$ uses linux12:09
sinthey, i've planed to install ubuntu for a friend. does ubuntu have a package system?12:10
hybrid_gothand now supports it12:10
petemcmetalsand: powerpc is ibm12:10
hybrid_gothwint: apt12:10
ivokssint yes12:10
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hybrid_gothSint: apt12:10
metalsandI guess, petemc, but they're all used by Apple.12:10
hybrid_gothmetalsand: IBM loves Linux12:10
ivoksPC was crap and IBM give it to everyone12:10
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ivoksso was QDOS12:11
holycowivoks, accidentally tho, they didn't mean to commoditize it and loose control over it12:11
ivoksand Microsoft buyed it12:11
hybrid_gothwhen ibm gets back into pc business i hope it is ppc w/linux12:11
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sintivoks: is there a way to get packages without installing it, so i have them there at my friends home12:11
hybrid_gothivoks: QDOS isnt that what m$ stole for dos12:11
Burgundaviaanybody have experience with wacom tablets?12:11
ivokssint ?12:11
hybrid_gothor "bought out"12:11
metalsandYeah, why the heck did IBM sell their PC business?12:11
seginhybrid_goth: i have a ppc i want to put linux on, but it's an old ppc chip (1 with motorola logo instead of IBM)12:12
ivokshybrid_goth they didn't stole, they buyed it12:12
hybrid_gothsegin: g4? or old world12:12
ivokssegin u should get mk86 sarge12:12
metalsandSince I'm a poor High School student I had to go with a Dell Laptop (which I love), but I know IBM makes better products. Down the line it would awesome to purchase a brand new technolgy IBM laptop running off Linux12:12
seginhybrid_goth: old world, i guess... it's a 603e @ 100Mhz12:12
sinti'm currently downloading the 2 cd's but i wanna have some more software then just kde and stuff. my frief haven't got internet there12:12
ivokshybrid_goth G3 was ibm12:12
hybrid_gothsegin: then i sugesst gentoo or debian| ubuntu doesnt currently use old world12:12
lotusleafonly 22 hours left in my ubuntu download.. woo!12:12
sintfiref -> friend12:13
ivokssint ubuntu has over 16000 packages12:13
hybrid_gothivoks: i kno i am on one and the g3 IBM is faster then g4 motorola12:13
ivokssint i'm sure you will find everything you need :)12:13
metalsandDio the same developers that work on Ubuntu work on Kubuntu?12:13
sintivoks: k, thats something i understand :)12:13
metalsandOr is Kubuntu a sperate entity12:13
hybrid_gothseperate i believe12:13
sintivoks: but i have to have internet to get packages??12:13
hybrid_gothyes12:13
ivokssint ?12:13
seginhybrid_goth: god does that suck. all my blank disk are CD-RW and my mac's drive wont read CD-RW12:14
MabusI need help with reinstalling GRUB from a livecd to a hoary system, anyone up for it ?12:14
ivokssint well, they won't just apear :)12:14
sintivoks: my friend doesn't have internet12:14
ivokssint you can download packages, burn them on CD12:14
ivokssint and copy them to hard disk12:14
hybrid_gothunless segin: ouch12:14
seginhybrid_goth: so there isn't anything i can do, like bootstrap it from MacOS?12:14
sintivoks: thats what i wanna hear :D12:14
hybrid_gothsegin: use debian netinstall12:14
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seginhybrid_goth: 1 problem: requires net12:15
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hybrid_gothsegin: no 'net? connect it once12:15
lotusleafTo hell with the cowards who say "I have a 56k modem, I can't download ubuntu!" Well fuck them, I have 56k and I'm downloading Ubuntu, 22 hours remain on my download. Hard core! East side! West Side! Awww yeah12:15
ivokssint just copy all *.deb to /var/cache/apt/archives12:15
ivokssint and don't delete them12:15
Fac51how can i change MACHTYPE from i386-pc-linuc-gnu... to whatever?12:15
Fac51linux*12:15
seginhybrid_goth: i have no ethernet card on my mac... they are virtually non-existent12:15
hybrid_gothlotusleaf: heheheheh12:15
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hybrid_gothsegin: ah12:15
ivokssegin you are doomed :)12:15
metalsandI think it took me about 35 minutes on my 6MB cable connection12:16
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seginhybrid_goth and i don't know how to make my lintel box into a SLIP server12:16
metalsandI also have the 3 GB DVD iso12:16
thom_Hi everyone i need a little bit of help12:16
sintivoks: ok, where can i find them?12:16
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metalsandWhat's bitchx?12:16
thom_I just installed Ubuntu but.. i dint had to insert a root pasword.. but now i cant become su plzz help me12:17
seginmetalsand: IRC client12:17
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sintivoks: i mean, where to download the packages. haven't found them on the website12:17
hyphenatedthom_: use sudo12:17
FackamatoAnyone using Firefox 1.03 and having issues with Macromedia's Flash ?12:17
hybrid_gothmetalsand: cli irc client12:17
hybrid_gothit sux12:17
dataw0lf|wmetalsand: irc client, amongst other things.12:17
goldfish_irssi is better12:17
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Mabusthom_: read the topic12:17
ivokssint on ur mirror... example:12:17
dataw0lf|wmetalsand: and most people who don't know what they're doing will tell you that it sucks.12:17
hybrid_gothyup12:17
thom_hyphenated, Ofcourse :( sighgggg12:17
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metalsandI tried IRSSI12:17
sintk12:17
metalsandbut it's hard to manage windows12:17
sinti will check out the mirrors12:17
hyphenatedthom_: you can set a root password if you want, but there's no pressing need for it12:17
hyphenatedthom_: it just sustains old habits :-)12:18
hybrid_gothdataw0lflw: irssi pwns bitchx12:18
metalsandI'm just not familar enough to code stuff that would show when someone's querying me, and stuff12:18
ivokssint http://hr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/12:18
dataw0lf|whybrid_goth: I'm sure.  Nice tab completion btw.12:18
hybrid_gothlol12:18
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metalsandis there anyway to change the font/text in terminal?12:18
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Fator_Deemetalsand: yes12:18
ivokssint you should download all debs there12:18
metalsandHow?12:18
OctronGnome.... you know I've never tried gnome and it's really not that bad is it12:19
ivokssint watch out... there are GB and GB of files :)12:19
Fator_Deeedit -> profile / current profile -> general12:19
thom_hyphenated, But thats the problem.. i dont have sudo rights 212:19
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amaroit seems gentoo is here because people like to see text scroll over the screen 24/712:19
sintall debs ;)12:19
metalsandWhat are the largest files on the reposotries?12:19
amarois that right?12:19
lotusleafI defecated on my windows CDs12:19
Ranoklol12:19
hyphenatedthom_: are you sure?12:19
metalsandamaro: that may be bad :P12:19
ivokssint you can do that easily with wget12:19
Ranokummmm, I have a question12:19
metalsandCould always be text scrolling because people are always having problems with Ubuntu12:20
Ranokwhat are the minimun sys reqs for ubuntu12:20
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metalsandGentoo does have 2x the amount of people in the channel, you'd think it'd at least be equal in activity to Ubuntu12:20
thom_hyphenated, I have it already.. sorry its half past 12 at night and i dint have slept last night so im a bit dumb12:20
hybrid_gothsweet12:20
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hyphenatedthom_: when you installed it, you created a user, right? that user should have sudo privileges. when you try to do (for example) 'sudo /bin/bash' it'll ask for your password12:20
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amarometalsand, when I have two or three monitors on my desk.. I'll think about getting gentoo.. hehehe... I don't want to waste a monitor doing nothing12:20
hybrid_goth21 seeds and i am the only leecher12:20
hybrid_gothwo0t wo0t12:20
thom_i know ;)12:20
Ranoklol whatcha getting?12:20
thom_hyphenated, i know.. i knew but i forgot :P12:21
Ranok^^ hybrid12:21
hybrid_gothRanok: c bible12:21
hybrid_gothand c++12:21
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Fackamatoshit12:21
hybrid_goth:D12:21
Ranokok12:21
ivokssint wget -r -A deb http://hr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/12:21
FackamatoI've 256mb ram and 311mb used swapspace12:21
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thom_hyphenated, Thankz for the help12:21
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metalsandSomeone should make a DVD iso with the 5 most popular Linux distros running Live CDs12:22
metalsandThat'd be awesome12:22
wdhFackamato, what does shit have to do with memory?12:22
sintivoks: thanks12:22
hybrid_gothlol12:22
Fackamatowdh: ?12:22
Ranokwhat are the min sys reqs for ubuntu?12:22
Fackamato256mb ram, 800mhz12:23
hybrid_gothmetalsand: a dvd with 5 ddistros better be dual disc and it would be ubuntu gentoo mandravia suse fedora12:23
Fackamatosomething like that12:23
Fackamatoand ~2gb ;P12:23
metalsandNah12:23
lotusleafsomeone should make a DVD with a floppy distro on it as a LiveCd and nothing else, just to waste the DVD space. Give it a cool name, hype it, etc. only to piss ppl off12:23
metalsandThey fit live boots on CDs12:23
metalsandCD = 700 megs12:23
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metalsand5x700 = 3500 megs, that can easily fit on a DVD12:23
sintivoks: i've seen some tar.gz files there. does ubuntu support to compile packages with the package manager?12:23
hybrid_gothRanok: like 350 mb for mini and 128 ram12:23
amaroHow much can a DVD store?12:23
hybrid_goth4 gb12:24
ivokssint ?12:24
goldfish_4.7gb12:24
metalsand4.7 GB, yes.12:24
hybrid_gothwhat can dual layer store12:24
metalsandI have a dual layer burner, too.12:24
amaro 4.7 GIGS!12:24
amarowow12:24
Fator_Deetwice that12:24
hybrid_gothwow12:24
sintivoks: http://hr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer_1.0-pre6.orig.tar.gz12:24
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hybrid_goth9.4 gigs12:24
sintas an example12:24
amarodamn, I need to buy myself a DVD burner.. I can easily backup my most important files on a DVD12:24
Fator_Deebut dl-dvds are quite pricey12:25
lotusleaffestival> (SayText"I like to poop in my hand and say what a beautiful creature")12:25
metalsandI think it'd be REALLY awesome if someone made a Dual Layer DVD iso with the five most popular Linux distros (Live Boot + Install)12:25
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sintivoks: anyway, i won't comile anything12:25
metalsandYeah12:25
hybrid_gothi wornder if there is an external dvd dual layer burner12:25
metalsandDual Layer DVDs are like 8 bucks12:25
goldfish_metalsand: go organize it.12:25
sintivoks: i was just wondering about this files12:25
amaroHow much does a DVD Burner cost?12:25
metalsandgoldfish_: I've been using Linux for about a week12:25
metalsandlol12:25
metalsandOr else I would12:25
ivokssint you can do whatever you want12:25
goldfish_:)12:25
Fator_Deemetalsand: that's quite much12:25
metalsandExactly, Fator_Dee12:25
Ranokwhat about tri-boot12:25
hybrid_gothbrb12:26
RanokI have win xp, gentoo, and ubuntu?12:26
metalsandI kinda' want to play with Gentoo12:26
Fator_DeeI buy my dvds from germany, 100 dvd+r for a ~50 euros, that's a good bargain on my opinion12:26
metalsandSince it's so popular12:26
amaroFator_Dee, why do you need 100 DVD-Rs?12:26
metalsandSeems like a rip, Fator12:26
Ranokyou have to compile the kernel with system flags and support for all your hardware and drivers12:26
metalsandI pay on average like 38 american cents for one DVD12:26
Ranokno fun12:26
Ranokno greenies12:26
Fator_Deemetalsand: hell off a lot cheaper than buing from here in finland12:26
wdhFator_Dee, thats not double layer though12:27
Fator_Deeand actually, I don't even remember the price correctly12:27
sintivoks: ok, i will try to install. thanks for your help :)12:27
Fator_Deewdh: nope, and I didn't say so12:27
metalsandI just got my laptop case12:27
metalsandI love it12:27
metalsandShinza Zeroshock12:27
amaroIs there a way to install Windows fonts on Ubuntu?12:27
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wdhFator_Dee, true :P12:27
Fator_Deemetalsand: you live in america, I live in europe :-\12:27
ivoks:)12:27
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metalsandI know, Fator. What can I say, I live a good life. :P12:28
darkauditamaro: apt-get install msttcorefonts12:28
Fator_Dee(or at least I got that kind of image)12:28
amaroI don't think they include FixedSys font12:28
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Fator_Deebut hey, in here they are like 10dvds for ~10-20 euros, so I'll continue to buy my discs from germany :-p12:29
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darkaudithmm... wonder if mame32 would work on the XP box with the roms on this one...12:29
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Fator_Deemetalsand: and I'm happy with my life in here :-)12:30
metalsandI'm sure you are. :)12:30
metalsandI hear good things about Finland all the time. :)12:30
Fator_DeeI'd be totally lost in america, where's the sauna, where's all to foods I'm used to :-p12:31
Fator_Dee*to = the12:31
Ranokexaclty12:33
ivoksi wouln'd go to USA, too12:33
ivoksman, don't like that country12:33
metalsandlol12:33
metalsandYou wouldn't come to America because there's no saunas?12:33
ivoksme?12:33
ivoksno... because u don't eat food, but... well...12:34
ivoksyou like GMO, we don'12:34
Fator_Deemetalsand: if I couldn't go to sauna if I moved to America, I wouldn't move :-(12:34
metalsandI live in Laguna Beach - 2nd highest property taxes in the U.S., the resteraunts in town provide ALL types of food, and are pretty much famous for being some of the most amazing food in the U.S.12:34
hybrid_gothback12:34
ivoksyou don't have health ensurance :)12:34
metalsandStrange, Fator.12:34
g0dotis there a way to disable the "minimize window" effect under ubuntu/gnome?12:34
metalsandBut there's plenty of Saunas everywhere.12:34
ivoksmetalsand that food is GMO12:35
metalsandMy college has a few Saunas :)12:35
metalsandGMO?12:35
ivoksyou don't even know what GMO is12:35
Fator_Deemetalsand: well, I've been going to saunas since I was a baby, maybe that's got something to do with it :-)12:35
metalsandNo, I don't ivoks.12:35
ivoksFator_Dee greetings to raikonen :)12:35
darklingGMO == Genetically Modified Organisms12:35
Fator_Deeivoks: :-)12:36
metalsandivoks: My friend and his family from croatia that I told you about love the food here.12:36
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ivoksmetalsand well... they are freaks12:36
metalsandYour knowledge of the U.S. is biased ;)12:37
ivoksmetalsand GMO means that you eat tomato with rat's gens12:37
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hybrid_gothfreaks rule12:38
metalsandThat's just silly ;)12:38
ivoksmetalsand :) no, i know you don't have prsut (prscutio), natural tomatos and natural food12:38
ivoksmetalsand it would't be great if I'm only imagine12:38
metalsandApparently not, ivoks. ;)12:38
ivoksmetalsand but, I don't12:38
ivoksmetalsand USA is only contry in world that propageds GMO food12:39
ivoksmetalsand that's beacuse you don't have natural resources to feed all those people12:39
metalsandNot every crop is "GMO", in fact I'm sure a very small portion are.12:39
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ivoksmetalsand and food has to be engeeinerd12:39
ivoksmetalsand i think that more than 50% is12:40
ivoksmetalsand i would have to check for detailed percentage12:40
metalsandDoubtful, and I'm sure none of that stuff is acceptable in Laguna Beach.12:40
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ivokswell.. time for bed12:41
hybrid_gothg'nite12:41
metalsandG'night, ivoks12:41
ivoksbye all12:41
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JairunCalothI guess I need to install my moniter drivers to be able to set my refresh rate higher?12:42
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srichterhello everyone12:42
hybrid_gothhi12:42
srichterI am totally new to Debian and Ubuntu12:42
srichterI am looking for the setup program for the network12:43
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srichterit detected the network during setup, but now it will not work anymore12:43
JanCJairunCaloth : no, just set is higher  :)12:43
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JairunCalothit won't let me set it higher12:44
JairunCalothit's locked at like 6012:44
JanCnot in the GUI12:44
JanChm12:44
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chasedoes anyone know where i can get a copy of the mp4v2 librarys?12:45
chasei need them to copy m4p's to my iPod12:45
hybrid_gothwhats an m4p12:46
transgressmp4 i do believe is what he means12:46
chaseits an evil file used by iTunes12:46
chasetransgress, well its right format but the extention is m4p12:46
transgressoh really?  umm that's grand12:47
chaseif you buy music off iTunes its delived as an m4p,12:47
JanCJairunCaloth : try the following12:47
JanCsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:47
JanCin a terminal window12:47
chaseif you want your ipod to use audiobooks you get an m4b12:47
transgressthat'll teach you to buy music12:47
chaseye i know :-(12:47
JairunCalothshould I let it auto detect?12:48
transgressi don't have to look for odd formats when i steal music12:48
JanCbuy your music as mp3 or ogg vorbis or flac  :)12:48
chasebut it worked fine when i had itunes but now i still need the librarys to use use the music i DID buy12:48
chaseJanC, i dont know anywhere that sell mp3's12:48
hybrid_gothchase: use google for music type -inurl:.html -inurl:.shtml "index of" ogg/mp3 "song or artist"12:48
Bazzichase +1 victim of apple.12:48
chasenapster does wmvs12:48
JanCchase : there are many, just not from the major labels...12:49
JairunCalothsince I have an nvidia card, I should choose the nvidia x server driver?12:49
chasei can live with that12:49
srichternoone?12:49
hybrid_gothsrichter: ?12:50
chrissturmis there a tool that logs harddisk activity? i would like to find out what app is causing it12:50
srichterhybrid_goth: I would like to know what program will configure my NIC card12:50
JanCbleep.com, mptunes, emusic, etc. all use mp3 or another open format12:50
srichterhybrid_goth: without having to do it by hand...12:50
hybrid_gothsrichter: look in synaptic?12:50
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chaseJanC, cool i will look at them in future, but for now i still have the m4p problem :-(12:51
srichterhybrid_goth: I am using kubuntu12:51
hybrid_gothwell kynaptic12:51
hybrid_goth...12:51
JanChave you tried pymusique / MonoMusique ?12:51
srichterhybrid_goth: ok, I looked in kynaptic already12:51
srichterhybrid_goth: what am I looking for though? It is just for isntalling pacakges12:51
JanCit should be possible to buy music from iTMS with those apps12:52
hybrid_gothNIC card configure12:52
hybrid_gothand it may bring up a prog that does so but look in name and description12:52
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srichterok12:53
hybrid_gothJanC: are you saying there is a linux iTMS12:53
srichterhybrid_goth: nothing :-(12:53
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JanCit's not 100% legal I guess12:53
JanCbut it should work AFAIK12:53
hybrid_gothkool12:54
hybrid_gothsrichter: ask google12:54
srichterI tried12:54
hybrid_gothask yahoo12:54
srichterI found this unofficial tutorial12:54
JanChttp://fuware.nanocrew.net/pymusique/12:54
srichterit refers to certain menu options12:54
srichterbut never tells me the program I ahve to run in the first place12:54
JairunCalothshould I use the kernal framebuffer interface device?12:54
JairunCalothor will turning it off be faster?12:55
JanCJairunCaloth : normally all the _defaults_ are okay12:55
JanCexcept for your refresh rate12:56
JanCbecause it wasn't detected correctly12:56
JanCIIRC framebuffer stuff is not the default12:57
ositydoes anyone have raid experiences?12:58
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bronsonAnyone know why Tomboy won't start for me?01:00
computerguy867does anyone know if GDC is being added to the repos01:00
bronsonI launch it and it does nothing...  No notification area indicator, nothin'01:00
bronsonstock hoary01:01
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bronsoncomputerguy867: someone on ubuntu-devel might know offhand...?01:01
Rodrigowow01:01
computerguy867ok01:02
computerguy867ill ask, thanks01:02
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bronsonYeah, tomboy on hoary appears totally wedged.01:03
Rodrigotheres a lot of people here 8101:03
ajmitch_bronson: try adding it as a panel applet?01:03
darmouI have been getting inputl/output errors on my xfs partition, I ran xfs_repair which seemed to fix the problem, but now I have the same problem again, should I try to reformat the disk?01:03
LinuxJonesRodrigo, there are 486 people here :)01:03
Rodrigoyup01:04
Rodrigowell 48301:04
Rodrigodarmou: send to hell the partition01:04
Rodrigoand work with raiserFS01:04
Rodrigo:D01:04
Rodrigoxfs is superb, but, at least for me, It gave ma a lot of trouble01:05
bronsonajmitch_: I don't see a "tomboy" thingie in the add applet dialog.01:05
darmouMabey I should go back to ext3 then01:05
bronsonI don't think it's Sticky Notes...?01:05
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darmouI've heard problems with reiserfs01:05
Rodrigonop01:05
tritiumI've HAD problems with reiserfs - major filesystem corruption01:05
Rodrigoreally?01:06
Rodrigooh01:06
tritiumoh yeah01:06
Rodrigodarmou, what you CAN do, it keep trying, format xfs, and use it again...01:07
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darmouok I'll try that thanks01:07
Rodrigoxfs its FASTER than raiserfs01:07
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Rodrigoand WAY FASTER than ext301:07
bronsonRodrigo: for large files.01:07
Rodrigoyes01:07
Rodrigobut what is a large file for xfs?01:08
Rodrigo10-20 MB?01:08
Rodrigomore?01:08
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Rodrigo(someone say that xfs can ONLY handle 2 GB files lol)01:09
nevynheh01:09
nevynRodrigo: a large file for xfs is peta01:09
Rodrigolol01:09
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nevynRodrigo: certainly hundreds of gig.01:10
Rodrigoany way, its your choise01:10
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RodrigoI just hope that Ubuntu breezy have RaiserFS401:11
RodrigoIf linspire is using it, why ubuntu cant? ;)01:11
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tritiumI'll never use it again, that's for sure01:12
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nubbecan I do a read-only fsck on an active partition, and if so, how?01:12
noddabai'm pretty sure this isn't possible, but wanted to be sure.  there isn't a way to attach an already running process to a new screen session, is there?01:13
SaMRoXIm trying so ssh a computer in lan and I get this error:01:13
SaMRoXalejoar@ubuntu:~ $ sudo ssh root@172.16.1.101:13
SaMRoXroot@172.16.1.1's password:01:13
SaMRoXRead from remote host 172.16.1.1: Connection reset by peer01:13
SaMRoXConnection to 172.16.1.1 closed.01:13
SaMRoXhow do I able my ip in the host computer?01:13
RodrigoIm not sure thats possible01:13
FackamatoAnyone using Firefox 1.03 and having issues with Macromedia's Flash ?01:13
RodrigoFackmato: I dont have sound in flash01:14
Rodrigo*ups Fackamato01:14
FackamatoI don't have flash at all embedded, just when I point the url directly towards the .swf01:14
hybrid_gothi have no flash or java01:14
hybrid_goth*ups u both01:15
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Rodrigobut thats all my prob01:15
hybrid_gothi could have java but am too lazy to fix it01:15
Rodrigosure I'll do something about it this weekend01:16
Rodrigohaha01:16
Rodrigoget the add on cds01:16
tritiumhybrid_goth, I'm guess you didn't use java-package?01:16
hybrid_gothRodrigo: are you on ppc?01:16
hybrid_gothtritium: does it run on ppc? where can i get it01:16
Rodrigohybrid_goth:ppc?, sorry, newbie here01:16
Rodrigospeak in spanish haha01:17
hybrid_gothRodrigo: it is a cpu aritecture in macs01:17
Rodrigoah power pc01:17
tritiumhybrid_goth, it's in multiverse, yes01:17
Rodrigonop01:17
hybrid_gothok01:17
hybrid_gothtritium: apt-get install java-package01:17
Rodrigohey!, who do I enable multiverse?01:17
hybrid_goth?01:17
tritiumhybrid_goth, yes01:17
mindsporeubuntuguide.org01:17
Rodrigohehe01:18
Rodrigook01:18
Rodrigogot it01:18
hybrid_gothRodrigo: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:18
tritiumhybrid_goth, before you procees, apt-cache show java-package, and read about it01:18
hybrid_gothdelete the #01:18
hybrid_gothok ty tritium01:18
tritiumyou use it to build a .deb from Sun's installer01:18
Rodrigommmmm, then its all ready done01:18
tritiumwhen you install it, it "just works"01:18
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mindspore...most of the time01:19
tritiummindspore, you had trouble with java-package?01:19
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whappdThere are a whole bunch of packages that Synaptic refuses to update for me, even with i run apt-get dist-upgrade -- any ideas?01:19
mindsporeoh.. java, thought you meant .deb in general01:19
hybrid_gothtritium: so i d/l java-package then d/l sun's installer and then what01:19
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tritiumNo, I meant the java installation that java-package builds01:20
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nubbeno way to do a read-only fsck on the root partition?01:20
rizlahi...01:20
tritiumhybrid_goth, Method 3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java01:20
Rodrigonubbe: umount it01:20
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rizladoees anybody have recived ths error:01:20
rizlaImpossibile ottenere il lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:20
rizlaE: Impossibile creare un lock sulla directory di lis01:20
JanCwhappd : do you have non-ubuntu apt sources ?01:20
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Rodrigorizla use sudo01:20
tritiumhybrid_goth, don't worry, it's easy.  read the docs in /usr/share/doc/java-package01:21
whappdJanC -- i added repositories, yes01:21
rizlai used sudo01:21
hybrid_gothok01:21
Rodrigono your not01:21
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tritiumrizla, don't use apt-get when synaptic is running01:21
Rodrigothats the error when you dont use sudo01:21
ellstritium: mike, what is up01:21
Rodrigommm well that too01:21
Rodrigo:p01:21
tritiumhey ells :)01:21
rizlai'm sure, i tried many times..01:21
rizlai used sudo..01:21
ellstritium: MIke, got a question01:21
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JanCwhappd : non-ubuntu sources are not supported, so they might cause problems...01:21
tritiumells, okay01:21
rizlaand synaptic isn't running..01:22
ellstritium: what is this,   *** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1416 ***01:22
ells*** for c_adt->cell_adr_table[i] .vob_id <= c_adt->nr_of_vobs ***01:22
JanCpersonally, I would remove them before doing an upgrade...01:22
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chrissturmhmm, i entered a wrong password for an imap account in thunderbird, and now it says login failed, but doesnt ask me for the password again. what can i do about that?01:23
tritiumells, looks like a failure to read a dvd properly (number of vobs apparently not read correctly, or something)01:23
ellsany idea of how to fix this01:23
tritiumis it a dvd you made, or what kind of dvd?01:24
ellstritium: it is a dvd I am ripping01:24
Rodrigohehe01:24
ellstritium: do you want to see the syntax I am using01:24
tritiumells, it only happens with this particular dvd?01:25
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ellstritium: seems to be with the last two I am doing this too01:25
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ellstritium: I think my syntax is wrong01:25
Rodrigook dudes, gotta go bye to all01:25
tritiumells, I know next to nothing about dvd ripping, but you can paste01:25
ellstritium: cool, tccat -d 0 -i /dev/dvd -t dvd -P 1 > ~/DVD_Temp/decryp.vob01:25
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tritiumells, no idea01:27
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whappdJanC thanks01:27
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syndabout how long til breezy will be stable?01:27
ellstritium: it says this, then copies the file01:28
tritiumsynd, official release in October.01:28
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ellstritium; something is obviously been left out01:28
metalsandtritium: when you're free do you think you could assist me in trouble shooting my wireless PCMCIA card?01:28
Magicbanein installing Ubuntu it was unable to configure my network.  I know that it is a DHCP network, but when I went to the configuration for it, it asked for a hostname, how do I find that name?01:29
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tritiummetalsand, I'm not sticking around too long.  What's the problem?01:29
syndmetalsand: still no dice with that?01:29
metalsandtritium: It doesn't work01:29
syndlmao01:29
tritiummetalsand, I gathered that ;001:29
cmbroth_ /msg nickserv link cmbroth lucas101:29
tritiumCould you be more specific, metalsand?01:30
metalsandtritium: Basically, I've been in here for the last 5 days, trying to get it working for about 5 hours a day01:30
cmbroth_oops01:30
cmbroth_okay new pw01:30
cmbroth_lol01:30
metalsandtritium: I've installed the wlan-ng drivers for it (Basic Prism 2, didn't work), and now the hostap drivers01:30
metalsandand when I finished my hostap driver installation, my card (wlan0) dissipeared01:30
metalsandI've installed linux-headers and linux-source for my kernel and build utilities through my adventures01:31
g0dotis there a way to change the default size of a terminal window?01:31
metalsandnow I have HostAP source installed, and modprobe showing no errors for that, but my card isn't even listed in if/iwconfig01:31
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tritiummetalsand, you really only need linux-headers-$(uname -r) for building kernel modules01:31
metalsandSepcific enough?01:31
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tritiummetalsand, which card is it exactly?01:32
metalsandSenao SL 2511 Plus Ext 201:33
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metalsandSometimes referred to as the Senao NL 2511 Plus Ext 201:33
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tritiummetalsand, do you load the module you built at boot?01:34
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metalsandI'm not sure01:35
metalsandI've only used Linux for a week, so I'm sure that's a big factor in me spending 20 hours trying to get this working (really - 20 hours)01:35
tritiummetalsand, to be sure that the module loads at boot time, you'd list it in /etc/modules01:35
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revelaterguys is their something like visual c++ in linux?01:36
metalsandSo a hostap module should be there?01:36
SaMRoX<SaMRoX> Im trying so ssh a computer in lan and I get this error:01:36
SaMRoX<SaMRoX> alejoar@ubuntu:~ $ sudo ssh root@172.16.1.101:36
SaMRoX<SaMRoX> root@172.16.1.1's password:01:36
SaMRoX<SaMRoX> Read from remote host 172.16.1.1: Connection reset by peer01:36
SaMRoX<SaMRoX> Connection to 172.16.1.1 closed.01:36
SaMRoX<SaMRoX> how do I able my ip in the host computer?01:36
tritiummetalsand, whichever module you're trying to use01:36
SaMRoXnobody knows?01:36
tritiumSaMRoX, why are you using sudo with ssh?01:37
SaMRoXtritium, i get the same error with out sudo01:37
SaMRoXi just want to ssh01:37
metalsandDoes anyonek now any terminal commands to check laptop powers?01:37
SaMRoXhow do i do it?01:37
metalsandpower*01:37
revelatermy laptop can see through walls and fly, what about yours? :)01:38
tritiumSaMRoX, you don't need to use sudo.  The root account you're trying to ssh to is on the other end01:38
syndrevelater: mine can make a really good omelet01:38
SaMRoXi knows tritium01:38
SaMRoXbut that doesnt solve anything01:38
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SaMRoXalejoar@ubuntu:~ $ ssh root@172.16.1.101:39
SaMRoXroot@172.16.1.1's password:01:39
SaMRoXConnection to 172.16.1.1 closed by remote host.01:39
SaMRoXConnection to 172.16.1.1 closed.01:39
SaMRoXhappy?01:39
SaMRoX:s01:39
tritiumSaMRoX, the other end might have disabled root logins via ssh01:39
SaMRoXthe password is correct01:39
syndrevelater: sometimes it does my laundry, but only if i clean up the desktop and such. i scratch its back, it scratches mine01:39
hybrid_gothanyone on ppc using skype or other voip01:39
hybrid_goth?01:39
SaMRoXbut it is the only user01:39
revelatersynd: lol01:39
tritiumSaMRoX, ssh is often configured to disallow root logins01:40
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tritiumhybrid_goth, did you give java-package a try?01:40
SaMRoXbut for instance, if I type an invalid password I get this01:40
SaMRoXalejoar@ubuntu:~ $ ssh root@172.16.1.101:40
SaMRoXroot@172.16.1.1's password:01:40
SaMRoXPermission denied, please try again.01:40
hybrid_gothtritium: yea but havent done anything with it yet01:40
tritiumhybrid_goth, ah, okay01:40
hybrid_gothtritium: so what do i do after the install01:41
SaMRoXShouldnt i get that also with the right password if root isnt allowed?01:41
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tritiumhybrid_goth, Method 3 of that URL I gave you, or read the docs I mentioned01:41
hybrid_gothok01:41
tritiumSaMRoX, not necessarily.01:42
metalsandtritium: I don't even have a /etc/modules directory01:42
metalsand:/01:42
tritiummetalsand, it's a file, not a directory01:42
SaMRoXok..01:42
metalsando.01:42
metalsandlol01:42
metalsandtritium: There's nothing there about hostap01:43
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tritiummetalsand, okay.  let's see if it's currently loaded.  please run this at the command-line: "lsmod | grep hostap"01:43
tritiummetalsand, "hostap" is the name of the module, I assume?01:43
metalsandyes01:44
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tritiumokay01:44
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revelaterhey whats a good visual c++ like program in ubuntu?01:44
tritiumSaMRoX, any way you can verify with the administrator of that machine if root logins are allowed via ssh?01:44
cmbrothHey crimsun, what is breezy?01:45
metalsandnothing, tritium01:45
sir-goldcan i paste an interesting ubuntu-related link in here?01:45
crimsuncmbroth: development branch of Ubuntu01:45
marioReleaseX, maybe Anjuta01:45
tritiummetalsand, okay, so that tells us that it's not loaded right now01:45
SaMRoXyes tritium, ill verify that tomorrow, thx01:45
tritiumSaMRoX, okay01:45
metalsandtritium: Probably why once I restarted wlan0 dissipeared ;)01:45
mariorevelater, , maybe Anjuta01:45
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tritiummetalsand, so, our next step is to load it.  "sudo modprobe hostap".  Also, please add it to your /etc/modules, so next time you boot, it will load.01:46
ifranyone messed around within /etc/network/interfaces?01:46
tritiumifr, yes01:46
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metalsandI installed hostAP-source, I don't know if that will change anything01:46
ifrI have an interesting dilemma can I PM you?01:46
paxmasterdo u guys know how could i work a webcam o01:46
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tritiummetalsand, not a concern at the moment.01:46
metalsandno errors, tritium01:46
ifrThanks01:46
darGorwhy always when i turn on my pc, it goes automatic to a console in /dev/shm/resolvconf/interface ?01:46
tritiumifr, can you describe it here, in case others can either learn/help?01:46
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paxmasterdo u guys know how could i work a webcam in a webcam01:47
Tezkahwhy doesn't wlan0 exist?01:47
Tezkahdaaaamnit01:47
mindsporeuhmmm.....01:47
metalsanddarGor: did you "Save these settings"01:47
metalsandWhen you shutdown/restarted01:47
revelatermario: you sure thats how it was spelled?01:47
tritiumpaxmaster, it depends on if the hardware is supported.01:47
metalsandtritium: modprobe hostap showed nothing01:47
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tritiummetalsand, that's normal.  re-run the modprobe command I gave you, and see if it shows something loaded this time01:48
tritiumsorry, the lsmod command01:48
ifrTritium back here01:48
tritiumifr, okay, thanks01:48
Tezkahdoes anyone know why I wouldn't have wlan0 showing up as a device?01:48
ifrinside /etc/network/interfaces I have #primary network ...01:48
ifrauto eth001:48
paxmasterwhat kind of hardware u mean and how would i know it supports01:49
Tezkahis there a way to create it?01:49
metalsandhostap 123976 001:49
ifriface eth0 inet dhcp01:49
metalsandis what it displaced, Trickyphillips01:49
ifrwhich is fine. And the wifi is a supported crd, up and running.01:49
metalsandtritium01:49
tritiummetalsand, :)01:49
ifrBut if I do sudo ifdown eth0 I get "eth0 is not configured"01:49
metalsandSo, should my card work now? :P01:49
mariorevelater, I don't know Visual*, but I think it how a IDE...01:49
tritiummetalsand, hopefully so.   Please give it a try01:49
ifrI'm having lots of difficultites and think this may be part of it - ifdown and ifup don't seem to see the same thing as iwconfig nd ipconfig01:49
ifrwhich say eth0 is the wifi card01:50
tritiumifr, no, iwconfig is specifically for wireless extensions01:50
ifrSo Okay. but ipconfig says eth0's the guy01:50
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paxmasteris there a software for webcam01:50
tritiumpaxmaster, gnomemeeting01:50
revelatermario: i think you had one too many n's in the name, but it looks like what i am looking for, thanks01:51
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ifrI am uing all comand line to get wifi going, because gui seem not to work - they can never release an IP and get a new one01:51
metalsandtritium: there's no information about my card in iwconfig01:51
metalsandin fact, it's not listed there01:51
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revelatermario: although it would be nice if it wasn't gnome specific01:51
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tritiummetalsand, what about ifconfig?  what devices are listed?01:52
metalsandeth0 and lo01:52
metalsandeth0 is an internal PCI wireless device01:52
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tritiumeth0 is not what we're loading hostap for?01:52
metalsandNo01:53
tritiumifr, I'm not quite understanding your question01:53
metalsandit was wlan001:53
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ifrTritium, that seems to be the crux of my problem: once on an IP, I can never release it and get a new one. Forcing me to reboot the machine whenever switching networks01:53
metalsandeth0 is my internal card, it worked striaght out of the install01:53
metalsandof Ubuntu01:53
metalsandmy PCMCIA Card, however, didn't.01:53
sir-goldmetalsand: if you have 2 wireless nics, maybe you should disable the onboard one (in bios setup or something) until you get hostap working, just so there are no conflicts01:54
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tritiumifr, oh, I see01:54
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ifrTritium and ifdown ifup and sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart are ineffectual01:54
metalsandsir-gold: Good idea, I'll do that now01:54
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ifrtritium SO I whether ifup and ifdown are looking in the right place01:55
tritiummetalsand, cool01:55
syndi remember that my wireless card wouldnt work because the eth0 was enabled01:55
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metalsandomg01:55
ifrOr if this is a dhclient issue01:55
syndwhen i disabled it (and did the ndiswrapper shit) it worked01:55
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syndmetalsand: voila?01:55
metalsandif that's been my problem all along01:55
metalsandI'm going to end myself01:55
syndthat happened to me too :P01:55
tritiummetalsand, you don't need ndiswrapper for this, do you?01:55
metalsandNo01:56
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metalsandI'd like to use actual supporte drivers01:56
syndbut i figured it within 10 mins so i thought nonthing of it01:56
sir-goldmetalsand if you would have mentioned the onboard wireless 2 days ago i would have said the same thing01:56
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amaroIs there a way to speed-up firefox loading time? I mean when you open up a firefox window.01:57
sir-goldthe pcmcia card that metalsand is using is a prism 2 based card01:57
raydogg``how do you check the entire disk to make sure there are 0 bad sectors ?01:57
sir-goldamaro are you using gnome or kde?01:57
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amaroKDE01:57
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sir-goldthats a reported problem with KDE01:58
metalsandHrmmm. Dell has locked down the BIOS options pretty good, there's an option to have "Wireless always off"01:58
metalsandI'll try that01:58
sir-goldinstalling gnome fixes it for some reason01:58
tritiummetalsand, okay, please reboot, and disable the onboard nic in bios01:58
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syndkde is odd01:58
tritiummetalsand, oh, didn't see your message above01:58
sir-goldyou don't have to use gnome, it just needs one of the gnome libs or something01:58
amarosir-gold, I already have gnome installed01:58
sir-goldok, nevermind then01:58
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jamesiohello all01:59
axhi01:59
axanyone else have problems wiht firefox freezing?01:59
jamesionope.  can you reproduce the problem?01:59
axyeah, almost everytime my girlfriend goes to "myspace" it freezes02:00
beco_hi everyone, i am havin a really weird problem with firefox, in wont start if I click the icon, just run if i type firefox from a root terminal, does anyone knows something about this issue?02:00
metalsandFirefox has frozen for me a couple of times... But real rare stuff (loading a thousand pictures in one window...)02:01
axyeah, it freezes for her very often02:01
sir-goldthere is always opera...02:01
metalsandHer comp probably sucks :P02:01
paxmasterhello i am setting gnomemeeting, now i am at the part of video;  please choose vedeo input device . but there no device found02:01
metalsandGreat02:01
hybrid_gothany podcast programs for ubuntu02:01
metalsandI chose always off for the wireless, yet it still shows up as eth0 in term02:01
syndi mean she is a girl so that may be the problem right there02:02
axis there a gui tool for killing stuff when it is frozen?02:02
tritiummetalsand, have you tried the reboot/bios change?02:02
syndax: yes02:02
syndin gnome02:02
metalsandYes02:02
axi can just teach her to use kill on a terminal but easier for her makes things easier for me02:02
metalsandthat's just what I did02:02
metalsandYet02:02
sir-goldmetalsand: paste the output of ifconfig into pastebin.com02:02
axyeah, she's using gnome.. what is it called?02:02
metalsandI can't access the internet, sir-gold :P02:02
metalsandnot on my laptop at least02:02
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syndax: theres a thing that you can put on the panel and it kills whatever program you click after you click it02:03
metalsandI'm going to google disabling onboard crap with my laptop02:03
metalsandsec02:03
syndax: you do "Add to Panel..." and add the "Force Quit" option to the panel02:03
axsynd: huh, that sounds dangerous, is there an app that she can just see the names of programs running that she can kill and kill what she wants to?02:03
tritiummetalsand, I'm running short on time here.  can I leave you in the good care of the others here?02:03
syndax: its not, really02:04
metalsandtritium: Sure, I've been at this for 20 hours02:04
metalsandIt's not like another 5 would hurt.02:04
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syndax: it asks for a confirmation02:04
IFR__Thanks for your help Tritiu,m! Have a good rest!02:04
hybrid_gothany podcast programs for ubuntu?02:04
tritiummetalsand, sorry it's been such a pain.  good luck to you!02:04
axsynd: ok.. that's cool :) thanks02:04
raydogg``dos fsck check the disc for errors ?02:04
raydogg``i mean bad sectors02:04
tritiumIFR__, sure, good luck :)02:04
syndax: you try it out?02:04
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syndax: no prob02:05
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axi think the fact that she is a girl is very positive because she is a girl and is using linux02:05
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mindsporelinux chicks are hot.02:06
Lickerhow would you find your pop 3 server addy02:06
syndax: those are few and far between02:06
mindsporeI'm talking to one right now ;-)02:06
mindspore(not on IRC)02:06
tirianHow do you enable APM into the kernal?02:06
syndi considered it an accomplishment when i got my girlfriend to use firefox on winxp02:07
axmy girlfriend uses irc as well02:07
beco_ i am havin a really weird problem with firefox, in wont start if I click the icon, just run if i type firefox from a root terminal, does anyone knows something about this issue?02:08
beco_or where can I find logs?02:08
axseems like your icon may not be executing a valid program02:08
syndbeco_: is the icon's prefs set right?02:08
mindsporelogs?  in the woods?02:09
beco_jja02:09
goldfish_chicks dont exist on irc !02:09
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syndbeco_: the command should be firefox %u02:09
crimsungoldfish_: a few work for canonical02:09
syndbeco_: right click on the icon and click prefs02:09
crimsungoldfish_: so yes, they do =)02:09
beco_icon is ok, actually it raises a window header wich says "starting firefox web browser" but then quits02:09
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syndhm02:09
goldfish_crimsun: hehe :)02:09
syndthats where i get off02:09
beco_thanks02:10
tirianto enable APM support, do I need to recompile the Kernal?02:10
Lickerhow would you find your own addy for your pop 3 server02:10
syndwhy dont ubuntu come with the original firefox icons02:10
crimsuntirian: no02:10
tirianLicker: You should get that from your hosting provider.02:10
crimsunsynd: licensing02:10
metalsandSomeone said there's a hotplug script that can blacklist the wireless card02:11
Lickerim my hosting provider...02:11
crimsunsynd: same issue as with Debian02:11
Lickero.O02:11
metalsandto make sure it doesn't interfere with my onboard one02:11
syndcrimsun: oh, i see.02:11
Lickeris it just my IP then....02:11
crimsuntirian: search the wiki for instructions on disabling acpi and enabling apm (kernel boot parameters)02:11
tirianI tried that, but it didn't work.02:11
hybrid_gothno podcast software02:12
beco_i've uninstalled firefox and reinstallen but just the same02:12
crimsuntirian: what precisely did you try?02:12
tiriansudo modprobe apm gives me an error: FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device02:12
crimsuntirian: no, don't modprobe it, use the boot parameter02:12
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crimsuntirian: look more closely on the wiki02:12
tirianI edited the grub menu.lst files and added apm to the list of modules, however, when I rebooted, I still only have acpi.02:13
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crimsuntirian: I presume you executed sudo update-grub?02:13
tirianYup.02:13
crimsunshow me your # kopt= line02:14
tiriankopt=acpi=on02:14
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tirianupdate-grub didn't install the boot loader w/ the new config, though. I had to run grub-install /dev/hda02:15
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talmirhello :)02:18
tiriancrimsun: is the kopt line supposed to be "#kopt" or "kopt"?02:18
crimsuntirian: it's supposed to be # kopt. Do not remove the hash (comment) mark.02:19
tirianAhh.. won't that keep that line commented, though?02:19
crimsunthat's precisely what it's supposed to do.02:19
crimsunupdate-grub looks for that comment.02:19
talmirI am in a bit of a pinch now. I am trying to use the updatedb. Only I just installed ubuntu and it seems that install never asked me what root password I wanted to use.. :P Is there some default pass that is set during install?02:19
crimsuntalmir: please see the topic regarding the FAQ02:19
talmir:P sorry02:20
tiriancrimsun: ok. That makes sense. Thanks!02:20
crimsunnp02:20
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talmirjust seemed that since I was not asked during install that it might be some bug. They might want to tell the installer since I dont have access to check faqs all the time :D02:20
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beco_does anyone knows where are firefox log files?02:24
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hybrid_gothtritium: what jdk do i download? bianries? source?02:26
nevynso does anyone know when shipit is gonna start actually sending cd's this time?02:26
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Burgundavianevyn, when they start shipping02:27
Burgundavianevyn, they couldn't start pressing until April 8th02:27
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IFR__Hi again. Tritium wasn't able to help - any other wifi / network interface whizzes around?02:27
paulsenI need help getting accelerated 3D working with my Radeon 9500 card02:27
paulsenI've now searched up and down the forums, trying to figure out why DRI simply refuses to work on my box02:28
nevynBurgundavia: I have ONE set of hoary cd's for i386.. that I collected at LCA02:28
paulsenand I havent found any solution for this problem02:28
paulsen(EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EBUSY"02:28
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IFR__I'm trying to find out why my wireless cannot release an IP (like ifdown) and get a new one (like ifup). The card connects (I send this wirelessly) but ifdown eth0 gets me "eth0 is not configured"02:28
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Burgundavianevyn, the LCA ones were rush shipped02:28
Tezkah"wlan0 does not exist"02:29
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Tezkahcan anyone point me in the right direction?  I'm trying to use NDIS to set it up02:29
emjAnyone using acpi_sleep with hoary?02:29
paulsenTezkah: have you downloaded the NDIS drivers for the wlan card?02:29
Tezkahyes, and they are installed02:30
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Tezkahndiwrapper -m wrote the alias in02:30
paulsenpaste what ndiswrapper -l says02:30
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Tezkahheh, wish I could, I had to reboot, since I only have wireless here02:30
paulsenhm :|02:30
nevynBurgundavia: I'm just kicking myself for not picking up a ppc cd at the time ;)02:30
Tezkahit says taht my broadcom lwfwhatevera is installed02:30
Burgundavianevyn, lucky bugger02:30
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paulsenTezkah: I also have a broadcom chip here02:31
Tezkahyeah, everything seemed to install properly02:31
paulsenTezkah: I had problems setting it up, but it always appeared in ifconfig.. so you obviously dont have the same problem as me02:31
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paulsendoes the card show up in the network configuration thing in X?02:31
Tezkahyeah, I have lo, eth0 and si0? I think02:31
paulseneth0?02:32
paulsendoes the computer have a regular LAN controller?02:32
Tezkahyes02:32
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lewwyman, i really REALLY wish i could get my davicom 10/100 network card working02:32
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paulsenand you are sure eth0 is the LAN card and not the WLAN card?02:32
paulsenperhaps you should dig through /var/log/messages for errors02:32
paulsenit should tell you when ndiswrapper is doing its magic on boot02:33
dennis__can I add a commandline option to my network card configuration?02:33
Tezkahall right02:33
paulsennow.. anyone here who can help me getting this ATI card working?02:33
Tezkahso if it is eth0, ifup eth0 should being it up,02:33
memvolanyone have some help for me, when i iwconfig wlan0 it tells me the essid is "d11b" rather than the essid I put in the Network essid boc02:33
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hybrid_gothtritium: what jdk do i download? bianries? source?02:35
hybrid_gothsorry i missed it02:35
lewwyhehe, someone should make a open source program called tomato, because when you went to get the source, it'd be called "tomato-source"02:35
lewwygeddit?02:35
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lewwyand there was silence amongst #ubuntu02:36
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ellshas anyone had any issues with ripping any new dvd02:37
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br33zy-blahuh hi02:37
br33zy-blahi'm getting a grub error 24 at stage 1.502:37
br33zy-blahthis is happening after an interesting class which consisted of me burning a cd, failing for some reason, freezing, then me hitting the reset button02:38
br33zy-blahideas?02:38
memvolanyone have some help for me, when i iwconfig wlan0 it tells me the essid is "d11b" rather than the essid I put in the Network essid box?02:38
ellshas anyone had any issues with ripping any new dvd02:38
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br33zy-blahfsck.ext3 says there is something wrong with some superblock thing02:38
lewwyno, but then again i dont try ripping dvd;s02:38
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lewwyhmmm the uber nerds seem to have gone idle02:38
lewwy(i use uber nerds in the most respectable way possible)02:38
ellslewwy, the new dvds seem to have added encryption02:38
lewwyells: hmmm that seems strange, they shouldnt02:39
ellslewwy, yeah, i tried to different dvds02:39
lewwytry getting dvdshrink and wining it?02:39
ellsone old, one new02:39
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ellslewwy, dvdshrink wont work for me02:39
lewwywhy not?02:39
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ellslewwy, i get an aspi error of some sort02:40
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ellslewwy, you familiary with that02:40
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lewwyaspi error?02:41
bronsonIs anybody here running tomboy?02:41
lewwy(keeping in mind i'm fairly new at ubuntu and only feeling my way around atm)02:41
ellslewwy, it keeps giving the same error02:42
ellswhen in wine02:42
lewwymmm02:42
lewwywine is a bit dodgy02:42
lewwyoop hang on02:42
ellslewwy, okay02:42
lewwywhat are you using to rip dvd's with?02:42
ellstccat02:42
Razor-XC'est tres magnifique!02:42
Razor-Xhahaha! woohoo02:42
Razor-XNTFS has finally been resized02:43
Razor-Xnow, to install Kubuntu!02:43
ellslewwy: when i use dvdshrink, I get could not initialize ASPI error02:43
tahorgRazor-X: you can forgot the 'trs'02:43
tahorgRazor-X: c'est magnifiiiique02:43
lewwymmm02:43
lewwyok02:43
lewwyi may have found a better program to rip dvd's02:44
lewwyi'll give it a shot first02:44
ellslewwy, what02:44
yfirgrip is very good02:44
ellscool02:44
lewwywww.ubuntuguide.org is an invaluble tool, thats what im looking at now02:44
tahorgRazor-X: btw, you've been able to load the dvorak keymap in grub ?02:44
Razor-Xtahorg: this client can't do unicode02:44
Razor-Xgonna do it02:44
ellsyfir: the new dvds have added encryption02:44
tahorgRazor-X: it isn't unicode, it's iso-8859-102:44
yfirells: oh? cdparanoia can't handle it? news to me02:45
Razor-XQTParted would _not_ find all the free space I had, PMagic would, but something kept acessing the machine at bootime02:45
Razor-Xtahorg: oh02:45
ellsyfir: cdparanoia for dvd?02:45
yfiroh sorry! haha, you said DVD!02:45
Razor-Xfinally I got PMagic to work02:45
yfirfor some reason i've been reading/thinking cd02:45
Razor-Xand, inadvertently, got my dad to give me internet access again ;-P02:45
lewwywell isnt that fan fricking tabulous02:45
lewwysynaptic wont let me install transcode02:45
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memvolanyone have some help for me, when i iwconfig wlan0 it tells me the essid is "d11b" rather than the essid I put in the Network essid boc02:46
ellslewwy, i have transcode02:46
memvolit is also showing no results when i scan for essid02:46
Razor-Xnow I have to deside to use the easy, unclean way of PQBoot, or the slightly more difficult clean way of a GRUB boot floppy02:46
lewwyoop02:46
lewwynvm02:46
lewwyit appears im a victim of my own stupidity02:46
ellslewwy, how so02:47
|QuaD-_any other breezy's trying to apt-get and their system breaking?02:47
Razor-Xor, just hiding GRUB at startup02:47
lewwyi tried synaptic to get transcode, but synaptic refuses02:47
jkinzHi all, NTFS support issue, have a nephew who needs to write TO an NTFS file system.  Is there any to do that w/Ubuntu yet?02:47
lewwyand then i looked at ubuntuguide and it told me the proper way of doing it02:47
JairunCaloth128mb in kb would be... @ 131000?02:47
ellslewwy, cool02:48
lewwy128 * 102402:48
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lewwysudo apt-get -t testing install transcode02:48
lewwyif j00 are interested02:48
JairunCalothI think NTFS can only be read only02:48
lewwyand then02:48
Razor-Xjkinz: try Captive-NTFS02:48
ellslewwy, okay02:48
lewwysudo apt-get install dvdrip02:48
Razor-Xas long as the NTFS has some form of Windows on it02:48
lewwybah02:48
lewwyjust read ubuntuguide02:48
tahorgwell, ntfs write is experimental in 2.602:48
tahorgbut it should work02:49
ellslewwy, have tried dvdrip, wont rip the all new, more encrypted dvds02:49
lewwyah ok02:49
jkinzRazor-X: is that an Ubuntu/deb package?02:49
Razor-Xjkinz: not sure, try googling it, or looking through the repositories02:49
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Razor-Xit _should_ have a .deb package02:49
ellslewwy, the program wont let you rip the whole dvd02:49
Razor-Xit's pretty popular so....02:49
K_Dallasis there a CD burner or tools under linux which could recognize 50MB business card size CDs as they are and not as 700MB CD? (i tried k3b and wrong info, same under windows with nero), thanks02:49
jkinztahorg: are ntfs partitions write maountable now because of that support02:49
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tahorgRazor-X: ntfs write is a kernel feature02:50
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tahorgRazor-X: nothing to do with some user level stuff02:50
jkinzRazor-X: ok. Thanks. (GBG [ God Bless Google] )02:50
Razor-Xtahorg: I know that, but, I don't think it uses Captive02:50
|QuaD-_can one of the developers sync opts25 and libopts25-dev from debian to fix this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=30821902:50
Razor-XCaptive is supposed to be safer than normal NTFS writing02:50
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Razor-X(normal == experimental in kernel)02:50
Razor-Xhow long would you say Ubuntu takes to install?02:51
metalsandi was unable to disable my internal wireless card02:51
Razor-Xon a 1.6 ghz 256 MB RAM02:51
holycow20 minutes02:51
metalsandin BIOS02:51
metalsandhow can I do it in the software?02:51
Razor-Xholycow: oh yeah, forgot ;-P02:51
Razor-Xnice, that's all I hav eleft02:52
Razor-X*have left02:52
Razor-Xand some GRUB configuring02:52
jkinzRazor-X, tahorg:  thanks guys.02:52
jamesioanyone here have experience with freenx?02:52
Razor-XNTFS resizing took me about 15 minutes02:52
holycowRazor-X, captive is no longer supported and neither is another driver required for the process also not supported02:52
tahorgmetalsand: ifdown wlan0 ? :)02:52
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metalsandtahorg: No, compeltely disable02:52
holycowRazor-X, it did? ah neat02:52
metalsandIt's interfering with a PCMCIA Card02:52
holycowRazor-X, where are you in the install process02:52
holycow?02:52
lewwyuys02:52
lewwyguys*02:53
tahorgmetalsand: pull it out02:53
tahorgmini-pci ?02:53
metalsandIt's INTERNAL02:53
helio7what is the daemon responsible for automounting CF-cards when I insert them into my firewire reader?  It works in gnome, but I'm trying to make it work in XFCE02:53
lewwywhats the funky thing called thats included in totem-xine that plays DVD's in ascii02:53
lewwymetalsand: nothing a screwdriver can't fix :P02:53
IIIEarslol02:53
metalsandI want it there so I can use it in Windows02:53
metalsandI just don't want it in Ubuntu02:53
lewwyifconfig eth0 down02:53
lewwyor whatever interface it is02:54
lewwyor or!02:54
metalsandYou guys suck.02:54
lewwyyou dont have to be here metalsand02:54
lewwyjesus christ you're complaining about free support ffs02:54
IIIEarsWe try to help - tere is just so very much to know. - sorry.02:54
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lewwyok02:54
lewwylast suggestion02:55
metalsandI'm just generalizing, lewwy02:55
tahorgmetalsand: if you unload the driver, that helps ?02:55
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lewwytried /etc/network/interfaces?02:55
lewwyediting it?02:55
metalsandI don't want to go through doing that02:55
metalsandYes, lewwy02:55
lewwyand taking out the network card?02:55
lewwyoh ok02:55
lewwyso...its not actually active02:55
metalsandThe problem is my card doesn't show up in iwconfig02:55
helio7so to manually mount a firewire Compact Flash card would you use the mount command?02:55
metalsandIt used to02:55
metalsandthen I installed hostAP drivers02:55
IIIEarsfound a nice driver for a 10 key mouse on the gentoo site :) "evdev"02:55
tahorgmetalsand: what changed02:55
lewwymmm02:56
tahorgso you have your answer02:56
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lewwywell have fun dudes02:56
tahorgunload the hostap drivers02:56
chiwawa_42i have a problem with the ralink 2500 howto from ubuntu wiki02:56
chiwawa_42the config tool says it cannot find the driver02:56
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chiwawa_42the card is liste as ra0 by ipconfig02:58
flameshi, "sudo apt-get remove --purge evolution" need remove ubuntu-desktop package too, is ubuntu-desktop a required package?02:58
hybrid_gothno02:58
chiwawa_42flames: i think it's just a metapackage but i can't tell it for sure02:58
chiwawa_42used to install the full desktop environment with dependencies02:59
flamesthx, i try remove it02:59
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hybrid_gothAnnouncement03:00
osityanyone good with raid partitioning?03:00
hybrid_gothall ppc user come to #ubuntu-ppc03:00
osityi dont know what to partition to ,,,,03:00
chiwawa_42osity: with raid tools or raid theory?03:00
hybrid_gothlets start up this channel03:00
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ositychiwawa_42: do you know how? i have it setup but not quite sure03:00
ositycan you walk me through the partitioning part?03:01
chiwawa_42depends on what you want to o03:01
chiwawa_42do*03:01
osityraid103:01
chiwawa_42for boot?03:01
osityi have it at the partitioner....03:01
osityi set up 2 partitions for each drive ( i have 2 drives)03:02
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chiwawa_42the last raid setup i've done was for a gentoo server, so i've done it manually03:02
danthemandoes anyone know why my gaim window might be dead?03:02
danthemanit's not showing anything03:02
mellomine isn't either03:02
danthemani sign on, and it shows nothing03:02
melloAIM may be down03:02
danthemanand to quit, i have to force quit03:02
chiwawa_42aim sucks, like msn...03:02
danthemanwould i need to do that if aim was down?03:03
chiwawa_42did you ever read aim service term of use?03:03
hybrid_gothdantheman: im me03:03
mellowe use GAIM03:03
helio7Any ideas on how to detect the location of a firewire attached Compact Flash card reader, so that I can mount it??03:03
mellobut still03:03
danthemanhybrid_goth: let me attempt to sign on again03:03
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chiwawa_42helio7: might be a scsi disk device03:03
osityanyone know raid on ubuntu?  I need help with the partitioner03:03
hybrid_gothdoloresdeviva0903:03
osityanethema03:04
danthemanhybrid_goth: what's your sn?03:04
hybrid_gothdoloresdeviva0903:04
helio7chiwawa_42: if it's a scsi disk device, where would I look for it?03:04
osityany raid experts?03:04
chiwawa_42osity: i don't think the installer is able to setup a boot raid03:04
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danthemanhybrid_goth: did you get it?03:04
chiwawa_42helio7: /dev/sd[a-z] 03:04
hybrid_gothyea i replied03:04
helio7thanks03:04
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ositychiwawa_42 : what do you mean a boot raid>?03:05
danthemani didn't get your reply03:05
chiwawa_42anyone using a ralink wifi card?03:05
hybrid_goth i replied again03:05
ositychiwawa_42 : what's a boot raid?03:05
chiwawa_42osity: booting with a mirrored root device03:06
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danthemani got nothing again03:06
hybrid_gothhmmm03:06
memvolanyone know why, when i iwconfig wlan0 it shows my ESSID as "d11b" instead of what I put in for the ESSID in System - Networking?03:06
danthemanshould i try to do a reinstall of gaim?03:06
wallflowerWhere's the old ubuntu people shot ? ;)03:06
hybrid_gothdantheman: no that is a lil extreme this is not windows; check you settings firewall etc and if nothing else works i guess you can reinstall03:07
ositychiwawa_42 where would i find out for sure?03:07
danthemani don't use a firewall03:07
ositychiwawa_42: i've been at this for weeks!03:07
elcuwallflower: you mean on the website?03:07
chiwawa_42osity: do you know for sure what you're trying to do?03:07
hybrid_gothdantheman: behind a router?03:07
wallflowerYea03:07
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wallflowerthe one that replaced, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/include/circle.jpg03:07
osityi know exactly what i want03:08
wallfloweri mean was replaced03:08
chiwawa_42osity: so tell me03:08
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danthemanhybrid_goth: i'm on my college's network03:08
hybrid_gothoh03:08
danthemani didn't have to do anything special when i set up gaim03:08
danthemanit just worked03:08
memvolanyone know why, when i iwconfig wlan0 it shows my ESSID as "d11b" instead of what I put in for the ESSID in System - Networking?03:08
elcuwallflower: gone.  you can still put it as your login screen if you want.03:08
osityraid 1 ....i want to mirror drive 1 completely ,,,,,that's it03:08
danthemanoh03:08
danthemanmy buddy list just came back03:08
danthemanweird03:08
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hybrid_gothdantheman: you can reinstall if you wish03:08
osityi want to use the 2 drives i havee03:08
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chiwawa_42osity: is this drive your system drive?03:08
wallflowerelcu, i just want the jpg... you know where i can find it?03:08
ositydantheman: was your name anthema before?03:09
raa1This probably not the right place to ask but, I will ask anyway...Is there a way to figure out the endianness (byte order) of my system03:09
Naliothhowdy03:09
Naliothraa1 what CPU do you have?03:09
raa1Intel Xscale03:09
danthemanosity: no, i've always been dantheman03:09
chiwawa_42arm is like any risc03:09
elcuwallflower: not really.  but if you're missing the blonde, install the ubuntu-calendar package. :-)03:09
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hybrid_gothosity: thats a weird question03:09
kwameHi03:09
Naliothraal that is an important fact for us to cogitate upon03:09
ositychiwawa_42: I  have 2 drives thats it.......so yes one would be the system drive an the other the mirror03:09
wallflowerlol03:10
kwameI did a apt-get install k3b ... and everything went ok03:10
kwamebut when trying to burn a cd03:10
memvolanyone know why, when i iwconfig wlan0 it shows my ESSID as "d11b" instead of what I put in for the ESSID in System - Networking?03:10
hybrid_gothxandros makes me sick03:10
chiwawa_42osity: so you want to boot from a mirored partition03:10
osityhybrid_goth: not really.....the work anthema is in this name....I wanted to talk to anthema03:10
kwameI got a message telling me that I need the cdrdao package, apt-cache search does not show such package03:10
chiwawa_42wich isn't simple03:10
kwamehow can I use k3b?03:10
chiwawa_42kwame: launch it03:10
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hybrid_gothosity: you you are gonna ask a random user? :P03:10
kwamechiwawa_42, already did ... but I get that error message03:11
raa1Nalioth: are RISCs big-endian03:11
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ositychiwawa_42: sure .....i want one drive with the OS and the other to mirror it all03:11
kwamechiwawa_42, telling me that I need cdrdao03:11
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chiwawa_42WHY THE FUCK does xchat popup on highlights ?!?03:11
chiwawa_42driving me crazy03:11
osityhybrid_goth: ask a random user what?03:11
transgresschiwawa_42: change the preferences03:12
hybrid_gothare you so and so03:12
chiwawa_42transgress: looking for the right option for hours, can't find it03:12
senator32i have the ut2k4 dvd, I have installed it on Suse before with no issue, i cant seem to install it in ubuntu (running kde mainly). HOW DO I INSTALL IT?? ITS a ".sh" file03:12
osityanthema is the irc name.....03:12
hybrid_gothnvm03:12
hybrid_gothnvm03:12
transgresssenator32: what's the problem?03:12
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dazzedsenator32: type ./the.sh in a term03:12
ositychiwawa: do you know the partitioner options?03:12
senator32ah let me try that03:12
SpAwNI NEED LINUX03:12
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chiwawa_42damn, it was on the xchat tray...03:13
osityit asks questions, i just dont know which to pick03:13
transgresssenator32: `copy that file elsewhere03:13
transgresssenator32: then run it... otherwise you can't unmount the disc03:13
dazzedno eh doesnt have to do that03:13
chiwawa_42kwame: did you setup universe/multiverse repositories?03:13
dazzedohhh03:13
senator32oh03:13
jamesiowhoa... freenx is pretty cool03:13
dazzedwell you can03:13
SpAwNI need linux )':03:13
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chiwawa_42osity: as I told you, the installer may not handle raid booting03:13
SpAwNi want to use freyja03:13
transgresswouldn't let me...03:13
HrdwrBoByes, freenx is damn cool03:13
chiwawa_42oscarh: nor grub does03:13
hybrid_gothSpAwN: what u got03:13
chiwawa_42or not fine last time i tried03:13
SpAwNwindows03:13
kwamechiwawa_42, noup03:13
transgressfreenx?03:13
ositychiwawa: is that a guesss?03:14
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dazzedSpAwN: download ubu03:14
SpAwNlol03:14
chiwawa_42kwame: so set them up first when looking for a missing package03:14
raa1Nalioth: Little googling suggests that the endianness could be switched or something like that...any idea??03:14
ositychiwawa: how can i find out without trying?03:14
oscarhchiwawa_42, what?03:14
SpAwNis it free03:14
senator32yes i get bash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied error when i try and "./ut2k4.sh"03:14
senator32off the disc03:14
dazzedlol03:14
SpAwNmy friend tole me to come here dazzed03:14
senator32i just need to relocate the files then?03:14
SpAwNand ask about it03:14
dazzedSpAwN: very much free03:14
chiwawa_42oscarh: i had to do that manually with gentoo, and only lilo was able to boot from MD03:14
jamesiotrans, yeah... it's a remote x windows desktop server/client package03:14
transgresssenator32: sudo ./linux-install.sh03:14
SpAwNawsome03:14
hybrid_gothSpAwN: what distro you want03:14
ositysuerly someone has setup raid on ubuntu!03:14
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chiwawa_42oscarh: you also need a custom kernel with builtin raid support03:14
SpAwNdunno03:15
dazzedSpAwN: do you know how to download and burn .iso's?03:15
chiwawa_42wich the installer doesn't have03:15
oscarhchiwawa_42, what the, i've been coding for two hours and now this?03:15
raa1It would have been nice if /proc/cpuinfo displayed the endianness of the processor03:15
hybrid_gothSpAwN: well are you a noob?03:15
ksmurfhello all.  can anyone direct me to help for 1. Getting my tv out working on my nvidia 6600GT 2. Getting my graphire working on this system.  I'm using hoary and it is just about a clean install03:15
senator32transgress: i still get the same error03:15
chiwawa_42oscarh: sry03:15
SpAwNdude i know nothing about linux03:15
oscarhchiwawa_42, let me idle alone :/03:15
SpAwNonly windows03:15
oscarhchiwawa_42, :)03:15
chiwawa_42oscarh: bad completion03:15
dazzeda .iso is a cd file ...(universal)03:15
oscarhchiwawa_42, it's cool03:15
oscarh:D03:15
hybrid_gothSpAwN: well Ubuntu Mandravia or SuSe would be best03:15
dazzedits an image file03:15
oscarhchiwawa_42, confused though03:15
transgressbest for what?03:15
SpAwNhmm03:15
hybrid_gothSpAwN: Ubuntu is the best b/c it is userfriendly but can get real powerfull03:16
osityis there a raid chan that may know or shoudl i try debian03:16
senator32transgress: should i just move the dvd files to the hd?03:16
dazzedSpAwN: look at my ubuntu www.trip-p.com/images/desktops/flux_latest.jpg03:16
SpAwNi will check out the website03:16
chiwawa_42osity: you need a really special setup to do that03:16
transgresssenator32: doesn't seem to be the problem... i don't even know what the problem is03:16
chiwawa_42oscarh: debian isntaller sucks03:16
chiwawa_42sry oscarh03:16
dazzedSpAwN: its actually my fluxbox but ubuntu is my dist03:16
chiwawa_42osity: you need a custom kernel anyway03:16
senator32transgress: ok thanks for the help though03:16
transgressumm... chiwawa_42 ... ubuntu uses debian installer with a few parts cut out of it03:16
SpAwNlol03:17
SpAwNi might leave03:17
chiwawa_42transgress: yeah, it still sucks03:17
osityi highly doubt i need a really special setup for raid......03:17
SpAwNcus this is a lil over crowded03:17
transgresscompared to?03:17
chiwawa_42osity: it's not "just" raid, it's a boot from raid03:17
oscarh:D03:17
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SpAwNi will check out website for ubuntu03:17
osityhmmm03:17
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chiwawa_42osity: also, mirroring can be done with either mdadm or lvm03:18
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Naliothraal, sorry i'm not a deep-ended nerd, i only know that PPC and arm and x86 all go different ways03:18
bodaciousbanyone know how i cna convert mds/mdf files to iso in linux?03:19
hybrid_gothNalioth: you also know ppc is the best :P03:19
Naliothhybrid_goth, why would you say that?  :P03:19
thechitowncubsNalioth: why do you allow yourself to struggle with your PPC :)03:19
bodaciousbisn't PPC mac?03:20
ksmurfhello all.  can anyone direct me to help for 1. Getting my tv out working on my nvidia 6600GT 2. Getting my graphire working on this system.  I'm using hoary and it is just about a clean install03:20
hybrid_gothNalioth: no idea...03:20
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Nalioththechitowncubs, the struggle is life; life is the struggle03:20
hybrid_gothbodaciousb: yes03:20
transgressbodaciousb: yes03:20
Naliothbodaciousb, yes it is03:20
Naliothand also IBM big iron03:20
hybrid_gothNalioth: amen03:20
bodaciousb=P thought so03:20
hybrid_gothmotorola03:20
hybrid_gothNalioth: G3 right?03:20
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hybrid_gothbodaciousb: some ppl say it is not a mac due to the fact it has linux on not mac os03:21
ellsanyone here copy dvds03:21
thechitowncubsells: maybe03:21
hybrid_gothells: no i copy actors03:21
ellsthchitowncubs: cool, have you noticed new encryption on the dvds03:21
Razor-Xhtish is the empteenth time i'm saying this, but, fdisk /mbr should boot WinXP partitions too, right?03:22
thechitowncubsNot really, I only copy some that i need to backup03:22
ellsthchitowncubs: there is new encryption out there03:22
hybrid_gothouch03:22
ellsthchitowncubs: I have seen it increasingly in the last few months03:22
nicedreamshow do i start an application at startup?  I'm using fluxbox and I want freevo to start inside of fluxbox without having to login so I want it to auto login and run freevo03:23
thechitowncubsreally?03:23
ellsthchitowncubs: was curious is anyone had done a work around for the new encryption03:23
thechitowncubsahhh, that will suck03:23
brdwebRazor-X: yes, that takes the mbr back to default, so any windows OS that is first on the drive should boot03:23
ellsthchitowncubs: yeap03:23
thechitowncubsi haven't seen any news on it03:23
ellsthchitowncubs: buy a new dvd and you will see03:24
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ellsthchitowncubs: I bought house of flying daggers and it was on there03:24
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ellsthchitowncubs: I checked it against my pirates of the caribbean which i backed up fine03:24
mebaran151book2.rb:11: syntax error03:24
mebaran151book2.rb:19: syntax error03:24
mebaran151book2.rb:20: class definition in method body03:24
mebaran151book2.rb:24: class definition in method body03:24
mebaran151book2.rb:47: class definition in method body03:24
mebaran151book2.rb:74: syntax error03:24
mebaran151anyone here know ruby and want to help fix it03:25
elcunicedreams: you're probably going to have to edit a fluxbox config fle03:25
osityany one have raid experience....03:25
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elcumebaran151: please don't paste lines here03:25
nicedreamselcu, how do i make it auto login my username with gdm?03:25
mebaran151sorry03:25
elcuuse a pastebin03:25
mebaran151that paste wasnt supposed to go here03:25
mebaran151heheh03:25
elcumebaran151: that's even worse.03:26
Marble2why do I get a totally messed up terminal when I do jar c directory03:26
thechitowncubsI backed up Ferris Bueller and that worked :)03:26
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ellsthchitowncubs: older movie my friend03:26
elcunicedreams: sorry, i'm a gnome user so not really familiar with fluxbox.  try googling.03:26
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elcuor maybe even #fluxbox (if it exists)03:26
ellsthchitowncubs: I have seen the last two new ones I bought have it on there03:26
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floamAre there any Ubuntu isntall CD's that aren't 650MB?03:26
drcodehi all03:26
Naliothhybrid_goth, this particular chat gateway is a G3 ibook03:27
floamI'd like to find one that's like 50-100 that'd just download crap it needs from mirrors03:27
Deffiehi all, i'm using ubuntu 5.04 default installation, i've created a vfat partition to archive data, now i created an user to work on the partition and i set to him the partition on fstab, i'm copying data to that partition from network via ftp but looking at df /data is now growing, but /.dev is growing instead... :?03:27
drcodecan I clone two hdd I Want to remove all my linux into bigger hdd03:27
hybrid_gothNalioth: my box is a g303:27
Naliothhybrid_goth, my new G4 ibook is awaiting drivers for the Aiport Extreme03:27
hybrid_gothNalioth: I was told that wont _ever_ happen03:27
Deffies/is now/is not03:27
Naliothhybrid_goth, may i say, BULL<cookies>!!03:27
PacoBCNhi guys, Can you give me some public dns servers? Mine are too slow03:28
hybrid_gothNalioth: b/c i was going to get a g4 superdrive etc but they said no wifi driver and prolly never03:28
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DeffiePacoBCN host -t ns yourprovider.tld03:28
hybrid_gothNalioth: i wanna get a mac mini deck it out purrrr03:29
hybrid_gothNalioth: do you know of a linux ppc VoIP?03:29
Naliothhybrid_goth, so share it off your G303:29
jamesioanyone have an idea why "out of the blue" my system wants to remove "ubuntu-desktop" in apt-get?03:29
Naliothhybrid_goth, my first mac-mini is goin under my driver seat (i drive a taxi) and will be full of music03:29
Marble2how can I make a .jar file out of a directory?03:29
PacoBCNDeffie, the ones my provider gave me are the one I'm using03:30
mr_robotomarble2: jar cvf <jarfile> dirname03:30
Naliothhybrid_goth, can skype not be compiled for PPC?03:30
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hybrid_gothNalioth: nice. Mplayer on there a small display03:30
hybrid_gothNalioth: nope it can not i tried03:30
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sighybrid_goth: why not03:30
hybrid_gothNalioth: I d/l the source and went to compile and i got errrors03:30
DeffiePacoBCN you can do that with any host, get an host that is near to you, in terms of latency (check with traceroute)03:31
hybrid_gothsig: b/c it is i386 src03:31
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sighybrid_goth: google some more then03:31
PacoBCNDeffie, the ones I've tried don't allow you to use them if your ip is not one of theirs03:31
Naliothhybrid_goth, saw a thang when the mini first came out showing a 5" touch screen03:31
DeffiePacoBCN you can setup a named too03:31
hybrid_gothNalioth: hmm that would be nice to put in the cab and have like mplayer or vlc03:32
Naliothhybrid_goth, did you ask uncle google the secret of compiling skype on ppc?03:32
hussamwhat exaclty will I lose if I don't incluse multiverse in sources.list ?03:32
DeffiePacoBCN and then use 127.0.0.1 as your nameserver03:32
elcujamesio: don't rely on me for this, but iirc, removing ubuntu-desktop is ok. i forget how it fits in the system.03:32
=== hybrid_goth wonders if osx skype build would work
Naliothhybrid_goth, i just want a full-screen control panel (since i won't be surfing or writing thesis while i drive)03:32
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Naliothhybrid_goth, with big buttons03:32
zoop_Can anyone confirm that Java is broken on breezy? I'm having problems03:32
Deffiehi all, i'm using ubuntu 5.04 default installation, i've created a vfat partition to archive data, now i created an user to work on the partition and i set to him the partition on fstab, i'm copying data to that partition from network via ftp but looking at df /data is not growing, but /.dev is growing instead... :?03:32
Naliothhybrid_goth, osx skype works great03:32
hybrid_gothNalioth: would it work on ppc linux tho03:33
hybrid_goth...03:33
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sighybrid_goth: it should yes03:33
elcujamesio: search ubuntuforums.org for a better explanation03:33
hybrid_gothsig: for real03:33
sigtry i03:33
Naliothhybrid_goth, osx is bsd based, linux is a wee bit different. ask uncle google for the secret03:33
hybrid_gothsweet03:33
mr_robotozoop: maybe that's the reason for the warning in the title against using breezy :)03:33
sigtry it03:33
mrwanyone know how to make Gnome display the images in a slideshow like manner?03:34
sigNalioth: not too different03:34
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hybrid_gothit is a dmg03:34
sigif it can be done in bsd it can be done in linux03:34
sigskype is working on freebsd03:34
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sigjust fine03:34
zoop_mr_roboto: Yeah maybe, but I'd like to track this down.03:34
sigand it is using the linux src03:34
elcumrw: you'll want an image viewer app for that.03:34
mrwkinda like what happens with a folder full of images on exp?  I can double click one, it is opened in a program, then I can click the right arrow and cycle through them03:34
Naliothsig just enough for it not to compile some things03:34
sigNalioth: wrong buddy03:34
siglinux compat03:35
mrwelcu, it opens in an image viewer, but it is listed as 1/1 :-/03:35
hybrid_gothsig: what do i do with the dmg03:35
Naliothsig, well i'm a ./configure && make && make install kinda guy03:35
mr_robotozoop: if you really need a working java, the sun one works great. not controlled by apt but everything installs into a single dir so it's VERY manageable03:35
Naliothsig if it don't work with that, i'm lost03:35
sigNalioth: great03:35
JoeXCoolNJDoes anybody know how to get the ALPS GlidePoint working under kernel 2.6? I have a Compaq R3000 series laptop and everything works flawlessly when I boot the live cd, but the touchpad is completely dead when I boot into the system installed on my hard drive.03:35
sigNalioth: then I'm glad your new ubuntu system is borked and unstable03:35
sig:)03:35
elcumrw: yep. iirc image viewer doesn't slideshow.  check out gqview.  it's my favourite image viewer03:35
sigbecause if your not using apt than your not being very smart03:35
hybrid_gothsig: how is that unstable03:36
zoop_mr_roboto: I've installed the SUN SDK 1.5.0update03...03:36
sighybrid_goth: because it uses the apt system03:36
Naliothsig this is the best running borked and unstable system ive run03:36
mr_robotozoop: and you're having problems with it?03:36
elcuNalioth: don't tell me you install dependencies from source as well...03:36
zoop_mr_roboto: But Eclipse crashes the JVM.03:36
sigit keeps track of packages that way03:36
hybrid_gothNalioth: does the ibook g3 have a mic03:36
zoop_mr_roboto: Yes.03:37
sigNalioth: you will eventually run into problems03:37
siglike when you want to upgrade03:37
Naliothelcu, nope i cheat with build-dep03:37
Naliothhybrid_goth, yes it does, and speakers, too03:37
ositycan anyone help with software raid here?03:37
Naliothsig what do you advise, /msg is ok if nobody else in here wants to hear all this nerdy stuff03:37
zoop_mr_roboto: And MapleV which uses some IBM JRE also segfaults...03:37
hybrid_gothNalioth: i knew it had speaker- listen to A Perfect Circle right now- juss idk if it had a mic but cool03:38
mr_robotozoop: you can't even start eclipse?03:38
sigNalioth: I advise you use apt-get with the correct repositores or synaptic with the correct repositories.... "period"03:38
Naliothhybrid_goth, they say when you buy a Mac, you need pay for nothing else...(fw cards, usb cards, etc)03:38
hybrid_goth:D03:38
Naliothsig so "apt-get source -b <pkgname>" is the way to go?03:38
zoop_mr_roboto: I can start it but after doing some things the JVM keeps crashing03:39
hybrid_gothexcept the mini03:39
mr_robotozoop: i use eclipse here and use it on a major project03:39
sigusing "apt-get" or "synaptic" is the way to go yes03:39
sigman apt-get for more information on src03:39
Naliothhybrid_goth, the mini still comes with fw/usb203:39
mr_robotozoop: what exactly do you do to make it crash?03:39
zoop_mr_roboto: Are you running breezy?03:39
Naliothhybrid_goth, apple usually puts the mic on the display03:39
mr_robotozoop: no... hoary03:40
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hybrid_gothNalioth: but you got to buy a monitor keyboard and mouse03:40
hybrid_gothBYODKM03:40
mr_robotozoop: i actually tried for a bit but went back to hoary after the warnings03:40
zoop_mr_roboto: Yes, in hoary Java works just fine...03:40
sigapple hardware is a rip off03:40
sigIMO03:40
sig:)03:40
sigtoo expensive03:40
hybrid_gothy?03:40
mr_robotozoop: ahhh, I see.   well good luck with that!03:40
zoop_mr_roboto: Thanks :)03:40
sigtechnology is growing too fast to pay that much money for a system that will be way obsolete in 1 year03:41
Naliothhybrid_goth, the mini costs $499US. you buy it, and throw away your windoze bookend, reusing the perfectly good peripherals that were being sullied by it03:41
hybrid_goth1 yr o_003:41
hybrid_gothNalioth: yea but if it is a first computer...03:41
Naliothsig, my ibook g3 is over 3 years old and still runs fine (to my perceptions)03:42
sigok03:42
Naliothhybrid_goth, if it is a first puter, go to walmart03:42
hybrid_gothlol03:42
hybrid_gothNalioth: get a 500$ linspire laptop03:42
Naliothwhen last i looked, you could get a CRT 17" from walmart for >$10003:42
Naliothhybrid_goth, shut yo mouth!03:43
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stakkatoview our statement: http://stakkato.on.nimp.org/~hacked/statement.php03:43
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IIIEarsthe mac mini is interesting -but it is missing a few things03:43
hybrid_gothNalioth:  rofl03:43
ahuman01how to get the cups-pdf printer working ? I want to save files as pdf03:43
hybrid_gothlike a keyboard03:43
hybrid_gothmouse03:43
hybrid_gothmonitor03:43
hybrid_gothNalioth: dont you love linspire03:43
IIIEarsand of course a decent bus speed - lol03:43
hybrid_gothNalioth: it can run all you winblows apps ootb03:43
Naliothhybrid_goth, it is a debian distro03:44
ellsI was talking about it earlier, is anyone having issues backing up the new dvds with the new encryption03:44
thechitowncubsWhats the difference between buffered and unbuffered memory?03:44
Naliothhybrid_goth, see above remark concering bulls (00tb, my butt)03:44
hybrid_gothNalioth: yea with wine built in03:44
mr_robotothechitowncubs: one is buffered, the other not :O03:44
hybrid_gothNalioth: it is like debian for nobody03:45
sigjust buy a barebone laptop03:45
hybrid_gothwhile ubuntu is debian for everybody03:45
IIIEarsGave Linspire a shot - it installed then stalled at the demo intro - verification?03:45
sigway cheap then you can just slap *nix on it03:45
thechitowncubsFigured that out03:45
thechitowncubsis there a benefit to one or the other03:45
Naliothhybrid_goth, i think linspire will be safe from my input03:45
thechitowncubsi think i found the answer03:45
hybrid_gothLinspire is alot like microsoft03:45
sighttp://www.visionman.com/products/category.php?id=3#1U%20Barebones03:45
hybrid_gothNalioth: roflmao03:45
mr_robotothechitowncubs: well tell me, i'm curious what you mean by the term03:46
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Nalioththechitowncubs, there is less likelyhood of data errors with buffered ram03:46
IIIEarsIf ubuntu hadvideo accelerationenabled on install i would be perfectly happy. - :)03:46
Nalioththechitowncubs, some higher end mission critical machines require buffered03:46
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mr_robotonalioth: how does it work? what's the idea of buffered?03:46
mrwelcu, is it in the repos?03:47
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elcumrw: yes03:47
hybrid_gothnow what do i do with the dmg03:47
mrwelcu, when I apt-cache search it all I get is gthumb as the result?  Same thing or no?03:48
Naliothmr_roboto, i believe it checks the data in and out more exactly03:48
Naliothhybrid_goth, what dmg?03:48
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elcumrw: no, you need to update your sources list: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories03:48
concept10is there a ubuntu live cd for PPC (Apple powerbook g4)03:49
mrwoh it is in the extra repos ok03:49
Naliothconcept10, there is03:49
chiwawa_42osity: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingToRAID103:49
mr_robotonalioth: more exactly? you mean something more than ECC? or is ECC what you mean by buffered ram?03:49
ositythanks chi03:49
hybrid_gothNalioth: the skype dmg03:49
chiwawa_42osity: so you asked without even reading the official doc03:49
chiwawa_42osity: that's bad03:50
Naliothhybrid_goth, if you aint gonna run it on OSX, chunk it03:50
Naliothmr_roboto, isnt buffered another name for ECC? i really have no idea, but thats what i thought03:50
hybrid_gothsig said it will work03:50
hybrid_gothsig: what do i do with the skype dmg03:50
ositychiwawa_42: what's bad?03:50
chiwawa_42osity: your lamer attitude03:51
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sigchiwawa_42: he never said anything03:51
mr_robotonalioth: well... that makes sense. i just never heard the term buffered ram so that's why i asked.03:51
elcumrw: it's my personal favourite.  if it's not to your liking, you can always try one of the other hundred/s out there.  but no, you won't get the exact functionality xp has, you'll need to use a seperate app.03:51
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Naliothhybrid_goth, you need the skype sources03:51
ositychi: you are the assuming lamer here.03:51
sigwhy don't you scroll up and look03:51
chiwawa_42osity: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html03:51
osityi have ready any article you can find with a simple search03:52
ali4728Help! how can I check what services are running on my ubuntu/computer?03:52
osityi have been on this shit for weeks03:52
sigchiwawa_42: whats your problem?03:52
hybrid_gothNalioth: it says skype-i58603:52
elcuwell, until nautilus integrates its own image viewer that is03:52
chiwawa_42osity: the link i just gave, i got it reading ubuntu's global wiki03:52
ositythat doesnt help me03:52
hybrid_gothsig: what do i do with the skype dmg03:52
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osityit says nothing about partitions ...i found that article a month ago...you are not a master googler ......03:53
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ali4728Help! how can I check what services are running on my ubuntu/computer?03:53
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chiwawa_42osity: sry but i've spent a few minutes for you that i would have used better on my own business if you took time to search properly03:53
chiwawa_42osity: that's anoying, not because you id, because most does03:53
elcuali4728: you mean processes? top03:54
ali4728yeah03:54
elcuali4728: alternatively, use the system monitor03:54
elcuali4728: type 'top'03:54
ali4728thnx03:54
elcu in a terminal03:54
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chiwawa_42osity: when the information is easilly accessible, it's a shame you don't achieve to find it03:54
ositydo you read bonehead>?  or do you just babble?03:55
torpidthis is off topic guys, but worth a laugh for a geek.  i emailed an "intelligent design" supporter after i saw her name in an article on google news, about efforts to get ID in classrooms, and lessen evolution.03:55
ositystick that raid article up your #$%^&*(03:55
lifelessosity: hey, tone it down please03:55
torpidWith respect to the evolution of proteins, and it's "low probability" she replied, "Mathematicians classify any event with a probability of less than roughly 10 ^ - 55 as "impossible".03:55
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osityi told you it didnt help....now lay off03:55
chiwawa_42ok osity03:56
chiwawa_42got an ignore03:56
ositylifeless: just a bit ticked as chi's inability to read03:56
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Naliothosity, its not nice to point out peoples apparent faults (when they're trying to help you)03:56
lifelessosity: that doesn't justify such a hostile tone03:56
osityhelping does not include calling someone lame03:57
hybrid_gothhow do i empty my trash from the command line03:57
osityor is that the american way? i doubt it03:57
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Naliothhybrid_goth, how many trash folders do you have?03:57
ositytone?  you can hear me?03:57
ositylalala03:57
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lifelessI can hear you just fine03:57
elcuhybrid_goth: cd ~/.Trash03:58
hybrid_gothNalioth: 103:58
elcuNalioth: multiple trash folders?!03:58
Naliothelcu, i have found 3 trash folders on my system03:58
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hybrid_gothelcu: whats after cd ~/.Trash03:58
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elcuhybrid_goth: rm *03:59
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Nalioth~/.Trash is one, another is my HFS+ mounted drive/.Trash-username  and the other is at ~/.local/share/Trash/03:59
hybrid_gothok ty03:59
Naliothi got to wondering where all the space was going, and it was all hidden in .local03:59
IIIEarsnice tip04:00
elcu/root/.Trash04:00
gp_aaronanyone been able to install xvidcap?04:00
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mr_robotoali4728: for n in `awk '/^[a-z] / {print $1}' /etc/services `; do ps -ef |grep $n|grep -v grep; done04:00
osityIIIEars:   can you give me a hand with paritioning for a raid 1 ? I beleive you have helped me before with this....04:01
rhys-hynawsHey. Does anyone have a favourite program that parses php for wed dev?04:01
rhys-hynawsweb*04:01
chiwawa_42osity: everything is explained is this document, you ned to do a expert install, and bypass it's bootloader setup to install lilo manually. I did it the same way on gentoo, it works just fine.04:01
IIIEarsI appreciate your confidence. - but it wasn't me - sorry04:02
mindsporeis there a good PHP IDE (non-commercial) that has a debugger that will allow me to step-through code?04:02
chiwawa_42it also gives a trick to not use a custom kernel if you're not able to build one04:02
Naliothelcu i don't have a /root/.Trash04:02
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osityIIIEars:  wrong dude then04:02
rhys-hynawsmindspore, if you find onelet me know04:02
elcuNalioth: you do if you sudo su first04:02
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mindsporerhys-hynaws, k04:02
Naliothelcu i only use sudo, never a su heh heh04:03
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rhys-hynawsmindspore,  what do you write your php in?04:03
elcuNalioth: that's good.  i found that root trash folder in another distro actually when i deleted stuff as root.04:04
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elcu:-)04:04
IIIEarslol@elcu04:04
rhys-hynawsmindspore, try phpeclipse04:04
Naliothelcu, even when i ran YDL, i set up sudo04:04
mindsporerhys-hynaws, alot, mostly database04:05
Naliothelsu imho, sudo is safety (i've learnt from experience, see?)04:05
nicedreamsHow do I get ubuntu to run my ~/.xinitrc script after loging in through gdm?04:05
mindsporerhys-hynaws, oh.. what do I write it in.. just text editor, hehe04:05
elcuNalioth: you're right, which is why i said "that's good".04:05
metalsandOkay04:05
metalsandGreat04:05
metalsandjus got off the phone will dell after an hour04:05
mrwvim is nice for syntax highlighting.  Then I setup an alias that quickly tails the last 6 entries of the php error logs so I can see where my error might be in the code.04:06
metalsandTo disable my onboard Wireless LAN I have to REMOVE THE FREAKIGN CARD!04:06
mrwI hate debugging php04:06
metalsandGod damnit.04:06
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rhys-hynawsmindspore,  you are crazy lol04:06
mrwmetalsand, ??04:06
mrwmetalsand, in Ubuntu?04:06
metalsandI've been trying to configure my PCMCIA wireless card in Ubuntu forever04:06
ali4728Help Needed! I am running a webserver on my local machine and (apache/php) I wouldlike to send an email through a php web page04:06
metalsandBut apparently it's conflicting with my internal card04:06
Naliothmetalsand, are they sure that THAT WILL deactivate it?04:07
ali4728I have Postfix mail sever running1 What do I have to configure to be able to send an email? Thanks (php code: http://pastebin.com/281961)04:07
metalsandNalioth: Yes04:07
elcumrw: how did gqview go?04:07
mindsporemrw: yeah, errors are easy enought o fix.. but, when you've got something like the wrong data in the wrong array.. that's where debuggers come in handy04:07
Naliothheh heh04:07
metalsand:P04:07
mr_robotoali4728: was that an ubuntu question?  :)04:07
Naliothmrw, in his Dell box04:07
sir-goldmetalsand: the conflict was only a guess04:07
ali4728yeah04:07
metalsandNalioth: You'd unerstand why I used caps if you knew how long I'd been working at this04:07
mr_robotoali4728: how so?04:07
metalsandI'm pretty sure I'm a record holder04:07
ali4728how do you mean?04:07
Naliothmetalsand, i have been seeing u in here quite a bit04:07
mrwmindspore, yeah I know, that's why I hate debugging php.  syntax errors are easy with the log but for anything else  ughhh It takes forever04:07
metalsandFor most time spent on getting one hardware issue working in Ubuntu04:08
ahuman01anybody seen this cups problem ? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19059.html04:08
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metalsandAt this point I'm not going to remove my mini PCI card04:08
mindsporemrw, I'd use Zend.. but I don't wanna shell out the bucks, lol04:09
mrwelcu, bam, yeah that's what I was looking for, thanks04:09
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ali4728<mr_roboto> ubuntu question yes04:09
mindsporemrw, the maguma open studio looks promising.. but very buggy right now04:10
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jaggihi..04:11
mr_robotoubuntu: well... in the sense that it's running on ubuntu i guess. anyway <shrug>04:11
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osityanathema:  hey  mann.....04:11
osityhow are ya,,,,04:11
anathemahey osity, good04:11
osityI've been waiting for ya to get on .,..04:11
osity:)04:11
anathemahows stuff wokring haha04:11
jaggiI'm having a problem... after I installed ubuntu, windows won't boot anymore -- when selecting it in the grub menu windows blue-screens04:11
osityit not....04:11
anathemadoh04:11
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anathemawhats the problem /04:11
osityim stuck at the partitioning part....04:12
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ositydo you need swap when setting up the partitioner?04:12
mrwelcu, anyway to make it auto fit the image to the window all the time?04:12
mindsporejaggi: format mbr04:12
jaggiwhen looking at the fdisk of /dev/hda I see the partition table, but each line has:  Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.04:12
anathemaahh i cant remember what you're all doing exactly osity04:12
mrwso when I open huge images it will shrink them to the size window I open?04:12
osityraid104:12
jaggimindspore, not sure what you mean?04:13
anathemaoh04:13
anathemahaha04:13
elcumrw: config-> image tab04:13
mrwelcu, yeah lol I found it right after I asked04:13
mrwthanks this was what I was looking for :)04:13
mr_robotojaggi: did you move the partition during your install?04:13
osityyou had walked me through some stuff then i had sent you a link with the howto.... but i get stuck setting up the patritiones properly04:13
elcunp04:13
jaggiwindows does now go to the menu "there was an error on the last boot etc.  Safe Mode, Safe Mode with networking, etc." but even safe mode blue-screens04:14
jaggino, I didn't change the windows partition, but I *did* let ubuntu establish its own partition tables..04:14
osityanathema: have you seen the partitioner?04:14
ahuman01anyone seen  this cups-pdf  problem ? http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-February/024015.html04:14
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jaggiI had XP installed on the primary partition -- ubuntu "left it alone" but added partition 2 for the linux install, and partition 3 is an extended partition containing the swap partition04:15
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jaggiwhen I ran fdisk prior to the ubuntu install -- when I had only XP installed -- I don't recall seeing "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary."04:15
ksmurfdoes anyone have experience getting twinview to work on an nvidia card (6600GT).?04:15
mr_robotojaggi: that  should all be fine. sounds like it changed the windows partition somehow   like moved it04:15
jaggibut I'm not sure why ubuntu's partitioning damaged the windows xp partition's location (if that's the problem)04:15
osityanathema: i removed the 2 200GB i had and am just trying with 2 40GB for now to make sure its not a size compatability issue....got a few minutes?04:16
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jaggiI wonder how to fix this..04:18
jaggifdisk /mbr will not fix the partition table though, will it, mindspore?04:18
jaggiroboto, yeah.. still starts at 1.. here  /dev/hda1   *           1       20805    10485688+   7  HPFS/NTFS04:18
jaggiPartition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.04:18
mindsporejaggi: no, but I'm not sure that is your problem04:19
jaggistart is 1, end is 20805..   some site mentioned ubuntu enables SATA or something... could that be related?04:19
OmniColossusI had XP installed first on the first partition04:19
jaggiyeah, it's normal for me too, omni.. whenever I've had dual boot systems04:19
OmniColossustheninstalled ubuntu with grub04:19
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jaggiahh, and and?  :)04:19
jaggithis is my first experience with ubuntu..04:20
OmniColossusbut ubuntu instal made the 2nd partition (ubuntu) the bootable04:20
ksmurfdoes anyone have experience getting twinview to work on an nvidia card (6600GT).?  I could use some direction if someone has the time04:20
OmniColossusso the system would not bot04:20
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jaggifirst linux experience was maybe 11 years ago .. used slackware :)04:20
OmniColossusI then reenterd ubuntu install and set first partition as bootable again04:20
OmniColossusthen exited04:20
OmniColossusand it worked fine04:20
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bestadvocateanyone here use freeciv?04:21
IIIEarsGrub is a problem had no trouble with Ubuntu installing if it used the entire hard drive - it wasn't so smooth as a dual boot install.04:21
IIIEarsIt didn't identify te partitions correctly.04:21
bestadvocatei cant for the life of me figure out how to start a single player game...04:22
mr_robotoi use grub on my laptop to boot between xp pro and ubuntu04:22
mr_robotoworks fine04:22
jaggiomni, interesting.. this ubuntu install set the grub option "makeactive" which I think will re-establish the bootable state of the windows partition (1) if it needs to04:22
bestadvocateme too mr robato04:22
mr_robotoand grub on my desktop boot between suse and ubuntu with no problem04:22
IIIEarsdid you need to edit grub?04:22
elcubestadvocate: uh, isn't it multiplayer only?04:22
jaggiI didn't have to edit grub.. but I can't get windows to boot without blue-screening04:23
OmniColossuswell I didnt touch the grub configuration04:23
mr_robotoIIIEars... can't remember. I might have edited the boot menu04:23
jaggiI'm pretty sure the partition table has been modified04:23
OmniColossusI only used the ubuntu partition manager to make the first partition bootable again04:23
OmniColossusthen exited the install04:23
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bestadvocateelcu: i thought so too, till i read this on their FAQ:   "Once the client starts, select "start new game". Now edit your game settings (the defaults should be fine for a beginner-level single-player game) and press the start button."04:23
IIIEarsYep "" - that was tough for me - never done it before.04:23
elcujaggi: so you partitioned before doing the ubuntu install?04:24
elcubestadvocate: did you follow those steps?04:24
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OmniColossusI was really scared cause after I had first installed ubuntu I couldnt boot at all ^^04:24
jaggiin fact, you know what ... I wouldn't have setup the partition tables like this anyway.  I'd have 3 primary partitions, while I figured I'd let ubuntu "automatically" handle partitioning its own way... I wanted to see what it would do -- maybe I'd learn something04:24
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OmniColossusI am using 4 primary partitions04:25
bestadvocateelcu they arnt specific enoungh, or perhaps the deb package is set up diffrently...04:25
jaggielcu, actually, thank you for reminding me!  I *did* run another linux boot cd before (not an install CD) and I setup partition 2 and 3, then I deleted those with ubuntu!04:25
OmniColossusI don't like using extended parttions if I can help it04:25
bestadvocatee04:25
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jaggimy apology -- I'm glad you asked in that way ..04:25
IIIEarslol - i made the mistake of installing lilo think it would be easier - not! - i got an endless stream of zeros displayed onscreen. - lol04:25
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jaggiduring the ubuntu install I deleted those two primary partitions and then used ubuntu's auto-partitioning04:25
bestadvocateelcu: the program once started gives you "connect to freeciv server" instead of letting you change any setting....04:26
m3jshcan anyone take a look at this terminal output and tell me what is wrong? : root@anjin:/home/m3jsh # sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<2.6.10-5-386> xorg-driver-fglrx04:26
m3jshbash: 2.6.10-5-386: No such file or directory04:26
jaggiI would have placed the primary partition as 2, and linux as 3, but I noticed ubuntu placed the swap partition as the last partition ..04:26
jaggiI think this is good04:26
OmniColossusso from the begining I made the 10gig primary parts and a primary part of the remaining space..... installed XP on the first primary first04:26
mr_robotom3jsh: lose the '<' and '>'04:26
jaggiif I recall correctly, the last partition is in the outer-portion of the disk, which is faster or slower or something.. :)04:26
IIIEarshaving the swap partitiion last is more secure?04:26
m3jshmr_robot: thank you04:27
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elcubestadvocate: /join #freeciv04:27
OmniColossusthen in ubuntu install I killed the 2nd 10gig partion and use that space for its auto partitioning04:27
elcu:-)04:27
bestadvocateah cool gratzy04:27
jagginormally I do this:  Windows partition 1, Linux swap on 2, Linux (ext3) on 3.04:27
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OmniColossusit made a 500meg swap and the remainder of the 10gig space for root04:27
jaggibut, come to think of it, aren't drives *still* using the same quantity of data bits though the data is stored in a more-dispersed space in the outer cylinders?04:28
OmniColossusit installed grub in the mbr but set the linux partion bootable (bad)04:28
bestadvocateelcu: it appears to be an echo chamber sadly04:28
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IIIEarsstill curious why my drive size was reduced from 40g to 32g?04:28
jaggianyhow, something to think about.  In the meantime, I need to find a way to get my windows partition booting :(04:28
elcubestadvocate: someone posted something when i checked it.  maybe just wait a bit04:29
darGori open video files with xine, all ok, but i dont have sound. Anyone know what's the problem ?04:29
jaggi(I don't know if it's more secure.. but I have a feeling that if the same amount of data is stored in a larger space, perhaps the data integrity is higher because the density is less.. *shrug*)04:29
OmniColossusI restarted ubuntu installer and used its manager to set the FIRST partition as bootable again (lighting icon)04:29
IIIEarsjaggi - the grub conf tool didn't work for me. i used a text editor and a generic howto. (god bless google.)04:30
OmniColossusthen it worked ok04:30
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mr_robotoomnicolossus: can't you just do that from parted?04:30
ali4728How does Ubuntu PHP mail function work with (postfix MTA)?04:30
OmniColossusgurb seemed to have been set up ok by ubuntu install, I only changed it to default windows (dont hate me :)04:31
abarbacciaanybody use beep media player successfully?04:31
jaggiiii, to edit what??  :)04:31
chris_ubuntuHello, I have a linux supported modem, and need a little guidance.  Would somebody give me a little direction?04:31
OmniColossusI could have done that from parted on the commandline, bu tI'm such a noob04:31
IIIEarsOmni - lol - i understand04:31
abarbacciachris_ubuntu, try going into system - admin - networking nad configuring it from there04:31
elcuabarbaccia: me04:32
OmniColossusI like ubuntu part editor04:32
mr_robotoqtparted is pretty darn nice04:32
IIIEarscheck the /boot directory for grub stuff.04:32
abarbacciaelcu, did you have to change anything because mine keeps freezing when i go to play a song04:32
OmniColossusright now i04:32
ksmurfdoes anyone have experience getting twinview to work on an nvidia card (6600GT).?  I could use some direction if someone has the time04:32
elcuabarbaccia: right-click -> prefs -> plugins -> output -> set to esd04:32
OmniColossusIm trying to get WPA working on the bg2200 wifi set04:32
OmniColossusI'm going through the tutrial04:33
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OmniColossustutorial04:33
chris_ubuntuabarbaccia, I have been there, but it does not autodetect it04:33
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miconhey, can someone help me? ive burned the ubuntu install iso onto a disk, but for some reason it wont boot to setup.04:33
chris_ubuntuAny suggestions?04:33
elcuabarbaccia: in short, oss sucks04:33
miconi know my bios is configured to boot to cd..04:33
abarbacciaelcu, what if esd is not a choice04:33
miconright now im running a XP machine, but i dont thinik that matter correct?04:33
OmniColossusbut when I did "make" it made in the unzipped folder and not in the /lib/modules/drivers/net/wifi04:33
chris_ubuntumicon, you probably need to burn a disc image instead of just the file.04:34
elcuabarbaccia: any other one beside oss?04:34
miconchris, i did burn the disc image.04:34
OmniColossusso now I'm not sure where to put everything04:34
abarbacciaelcu, im running breezy and i think they are trying to get away from esd04:34
OmniColossusthere are lots of .o and .ko files in the unzipped forlder04:34
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abarbacciaelcu, i got a different one to work eSound?04:35
chris_ubuntumicon, I am trying to private chat you?  Do you see my chat?04:35
elcuabarbaccia: ah, whoops, that was what i meant, sorry.04:35
miconyeah sorry04:35
OmniColossusanyone ahve experience with Insyde bios?04:35
ksmurfupon startup I have both my lcd screen and my tv working.  can anyone tell me how to have that when I'm working in gnome?  My card is a nvidia 6600 GT using nvidia's binary drivers04:35
elcuabarbaccia: choose that one!04:35
IIIEarsmicon - i usually use windows and the (free) isopowertoy - author alex feinman - likely the iso is burned as a file and not a disk image.04:35
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abarbacciaelcu, it works now - thanks - but i dont think it compares to amarok04:36
mr_robotoIIIEars: you should check out k3b, very nice burning tool04:36
IIIEarsyes - it is bettr than nero - but if you are new.... - lol04:36
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elcuabarbaccia: to each his own i guess.  i don't need the complexity of amarok.04:37
abarbacciaverywell04:37
jaggiI don't know how to fix my windows :(04:37
IIIEarsburned a few coasters with k3b before "Joliet" made any sense to me. - grin04:37
mr_robotowell cd's are cheap at least :)04:38
ksmurfjaggi MBR problem?04:38
phasegenanyone have trouble with dialup???  If I close my connection, I can't start it again without rebooting...  Am I doing something wrong, or just not doing something right?04:38
abarbacciaIIIEars, what does Joliet mean?04:38
IIIEarsand the idea of burning a bootable webserver to DVD is intoxicating. - Hacked? No problem - reboot. - lol04:39
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HrdwrBoBabarbaccia: long file names04:39
chris_ubuntuStill looking for some guidance on a linux compat modem.  Anyone willing to have a dialog with me?04:39
elcuphasegen: personally, i use wvdial.04:39
mr_robotojaggi: sorry, no idea how to fix your broken partition04:40
mr_robotojaggi: i've had the same sort of problem before when i moved my windows partition above the 8gb line but you never even moved it04:40
phasegenI tried that, but it wouldn't let me sudo it, I had to actually log in as root04:40
chris_ubuntuHot modem chat.  Seeking hot steamy modem chat!04:41
elculol04:41
IIIEarslol04:41
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phasegenheh heh04:41
Goebbelsanyone uses QEMU?04:41
thechitowncubsIs it possible to resize an ext3 partition?04:42
elcuchris_ubuntu: what sort of modem?04:42
Goebbelsi have used apt-get install qemu, but Im having this problem after a "appereantly sucessfull" installation of W2k: "A disk read error occurred". Anyone can help?04:42
Naliothanyone know the rpm command to export to tar.gz?04:42
chris_ubuntuelcu, I have a linux compatable Lucent.  I can tell you the model number if you like04:42
elcuthechitowncubs: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php04:42
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IIIEarsQEMU - nice.04:43
thechitowncubsthanks elcu04:43
abarbacciaHrdwrBoB, thanks04:44
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MuStRwow I just pwnt gnome04:44
MuStR:[04:44
jsgotangcomorning04:45
MuStRanyone know how to completely re-install gnome?04:45
sir-goldsudo apt-get --purge remove gnome04:46
sir-goldthen sudo apt-get install gnome04:46
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MuStRthanks, let me go do that04:46
sir-goldyou have to do that when X isn't running04:47
Naliothanyone? convrting src.rpm to tar.gz?04:47
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MuStRhmm04:47
sir-goldat the login screen there should be an option for text-mode login04:47
MuStRwhat is the actual package name that will allow me to "purge" the gnome config files04:47
sir-goldthats what --purge does04:48
MuStRit gave me an error, saying there was no such package "gnome"04:48
MuStRand I'm on fluxbox at the moment...04:48
MuStRshouldn't I be able to uninstall and reinstall it from here?04:49
MuStRI've done so with KDE when I was on gnome04:49
Naliothanyone know how to build src.rpms in ubuntu?04:49
mindsporeapt-get is a damn miracle04:51
chris_ubuntuStill seeking hot steamy modem chat....  Can anyone give me some direction on setting up a linux compatable modem?04:51
sir-goldMuStR im not sure what the package name for gnome would be, the only think i see in synaptic is just 'gnome' nothing else looks right04:52
ksmurfupon startup I have both my lcd screen and my tv working.  can anyone tell me how to have that when I'm working in gnome?  My card is a nvidia 6600 GT using nvidia's binary drivers04:52
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chris_ubuntuHelp, I have fallen under the weight of my modem, and I can't get up04:53
IIIEarsapt-get is awesome - tried a redhat 7.2 install once - two weeks reading about dependencies. - i gave up. lol04:53
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chris_ubuntuAnyone willing to talk modems for a few minutos?04:53
IIIEarsBSD is still that way from a base system.04:54
elcuIIIEars: don't the rpm based distros have a packaging system as well?04:54
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elcuurpmi or some such?04:54
IIIEarsyes - "YUM" isn't it?04:54
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miconokay im back04:54
hyphenatedelcu: for a long time, redhat didn't.04:54
elcuIIIEars: that's the one04:54
miconthanks chris_ubuntu , that worked for the image.04:54
elcuhyphenated: ah04:54
chris_ubuntuyou are welcome Micon.  I thought it might04:54
miconbut now im getting an error saying DSDT initrd something Notfound.04:55
revelateri need a program that will chart and trakc mutual funds, anyone know of any?04:55
miconrevelater, Quickbooks?04:55
sir-goldrevelater there are websies that can do that for you04:55
revelaterquickbooks?04:55
sir-goldwebsites04:55
revelaterbut are there programs?04:55
chris_ubuntuAny modem experts lurking about?04:56
revelaterwebsites have an agenda04:56
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IIIEars7.2 was in '97 0r '98 i think linus only first offered to a large group in '9404:56
revelaterwebsites try to sell you something04:56
miconanyway, after i get to the start up screen for ubuntu.. it does a few things, then goes to a black screen, with a bunch of stuff and says.. blah blah blah DSDT initrd not found.04:56
miconanyone know how i can fix this04:56
sir-goldrevelater yahoo finance04:56
revelaterok...04:56
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revelaterprograms?04:56
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revelatersomething streamlined, and buildt for mutual funds04:57
revelaterbuilt04:57
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problemlaahelp me: i can`t login........and the problem msg i got.. error while loading shared libraries : libgnutls.so.11 : cannot open shared object file: input/ouput error04:57
cmss29Still seeking modem help (under a new nic)04:57
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tritiumIIIEars, got to be 9304:57
miconi cant even install ubuntu.. Grrrr04:58
IIIEarsalmost. - lol 4304:58
cmss29micon, still having probs with the install?04:58
IIIEarsoops yes . that might be right.04:58
cmss29chris_ubuntu test test test04:58
elcucmss29: why not try and configure your modem manually?04:58
miconyes, DSDT initrd not found04:58
miconand it is stuck there.04:59
miconi tried doing the grub thing earlier, before i got the cd working, and that threw the same error..04:59
cmss29elcu, I need to set this up so my mom and dad can logon.  They are mid 60's.  To make it so they have to work from a terminal prompt is not realistic04:59
problemlaahelp me: i can`t login........and the problem msg i got.. error while loading shared libraries : libgnutls.so.11 : cannot open shared object file: input/ouput error04:59
IIIEarsit was a copy of the five thousand dollar Unix OS made by Sun.04:59
cmss29elcu, pointing a clicking is a challenge for them04:59
micon:-\05:00
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miconwhy must linux hate me..05:00
micongrrr05:00
elcucmss29: i meant just set it manually in networking rather than auto-detecting05:00
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IIIEarslinux is still in infancy.05:00
cmss29elcu, can you help me do it?05:00
notigis it possible to play isketch with linux ???? isketch = shockwave internet game .......05:00
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miconyeah..well it hates me...because i cant even install ubuntu correctly05:00
micon:-X05:00
tritiumIIIEars, ?05:00
elcucmss29: system->admin->networking05:01
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tizzycan anyone help with a small problem????05:01
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sir-goldnotig, you need the flash plugin for linux05:01
IIIEarsWhy would anyone use windows if there were a good free alternative? - grin05:01
tritiummicon, what's going on?05:01
elcucmss29: then wait a while until you can right click on the modem connection05:01
elcucmss29: then select properties05:01
elcucmss29: check "This device is configured"05:01
cmss29elcu, hang on.  I have to chat elsewhere for a few mins05:02
mindsporewhere does the apache2 executable get installed by default?05:02
IIIEarsUbuntu is pretty close to windows 3.1 in functions. - in security it's a homerun.05:02
elcuIIIEars: they've been brainwashed05:02
tritiummindspore, dpkg -L <packagename> to list the files in the package.  You can find it that way.05:02
tizzyis there an ubuntu developer channel???05:03
tritiumtizzy, yes, but this is the proper channel for questions05:03
mindsporethank tritium05:03
tritiumnp05:03
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ositywhen i try to dpkg -reconfigure  linux-image it says the package is not installed and no info available05:04
osityanyone know why?05:04
sir-goldlinux-image isn't the full name05:04
tritium^^^05:04
osityya i put the full name...05:04
osityand got the same05:04
sir-goldand there is nothing to configure anyway05:04
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tritiumosity, if you didn't have a linux-image package installed, you'd have no kernel05:05
m3jshguys, i'm an idiot, i uninstalled xlibmesa-gl and it effectively uninstalled gksudo and stuff and i can't access synaptic and that's not cool :-/05:05
m3jshany ideas?05:05
jamesioquick question: on a 160gig+ drive, would you suggest ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem?05:05
sir-goldosity if you want to modify the kernel you have to get the source and recompile it05:05
Naliothm3jsh, the terminal is your friend05:05
tizzytritium: are there any known problems using /dev/dsp as i've got loads of apps which dont work (xmms, gnusound, sweep etc)05:05
ositylinux-image-2.6.8.1-3-38605:05
ositylinux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 is the name of the pacakge....05:06
m3jshNalioth: what do you presume I do. I reinstalled xlibmesa-gl, i didn't mention that, but gksudo has not returned05:06
sir-goldosity: why are you trying to do a reconfigure on it?05:06
osityfor raid 105:06
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elcum3jsh: uh, i think it's gksu05:06
tritiumtizzy, are you running esd?  I think you've not configured the output of xmms, for example, to use esd05:07
osityit says to do it in a how to05:07
sir-goldosity what is the link to the howto?05:07
Naliothm3jsh, "sudo apt-get install gksudo"05:07
tritiumosity, why are you running dpkg-reconfigure on a linux-image anyway?05:07
osityhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingToRAID1/05:07
Naliothelcu, its the long form of command05:07
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Naliothelcu, there is gksu and gksudo both05:08
m3jshNalioth and elcu: thank you05:08
jeavishow I can turn on my laptop fan05:08
Naliothelcu ubuntu doesnt use "su" so does not include gksu05:08
sir-goldosity are you using warty, or the new hoary cd?05:08
osityhoary05:08
Naliothaksu05:08
osityis hoary all setup?05:08
tritiumosity, try using linux-image-$(uname -r)05:08
sir-goldah, those instructions are for warty05:08
osityoh05:08
osityso there is no update to this howto?05:09
tizzytritium: dunno, the gui sound effects work fine, so does totem movie player and rythmbox but everything else i've installed either hangs or doesn't work :(05:09
g14 Does anyone know how to find the device (/dev/xxx) name of a recognized pci modem?05:09
elcuNalioth: righto.  i tried to remove xlibmesa-gl via synaptic (cancelling of course) and it listed gksu but not gksudo05:09
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jeavishow I can turn on my laptop fan05:09
tritiumtizzy, sounds like the problem I described.  There are sound issues that are being addressed, yes, but in your case, I think you can configure your apps to use esd.05:09
Naliothelcu funny how gksu is here, even tho ubuntu steers clear of 'su'05:09
Naliothjeavis, start multiple compile jobs05:10
metalsandtritium: You've returned, care to continue helping me once you're all freed up? :D05:10
tizzytritium: is that easy???05:10
elculol05:10
metalsandNalioth: Funniest thing I've heard in this channel for a while :P05:10
tritiumtizzy, yeah, not hard.05:10
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jeavisNalioth; How I do that05:10
tritiummetalsand, what's the latest news on your situation?05:10
ositytritium have you setup sw raid before ?05:10
tritiumosity, no, sorry...05:11
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Naliothmetalsand, well he asked how to start his fans a'running. multiple compile jobs will do it05:11
sir-goldosity try linux-image-2.6.10.-5-38605:11
metalsandtritium: I called Dell to see if there was a way to disable it in BIOS... But, there's no way05:11
sir-golderr linux-image-2.6.10-5-38605:11
metalsandSo, he talked to his supervision and put me on hold for 5 minutes05:11
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Naliothjeavis compiling software is very CPU intensive, so usually fires up the fans quite well05:11
tritiummetalsand, I tend to pop in and out when I get tired of working on my dissertation.  I try to be disciplined enough to not stay for very long periods...05:11
metalsandand came back to say "You can remove the PCI Card, just open the slot next to the back of the laptop and pull that out"05:11
sir-goldmetalsand you might as well do that05:12
osityshould the lilo be installed on the MBR or the ubuntu partition for raid1?05:12
metalsandSir-gold05:12
de_wizzehow long before the kernel guys deal with the annoying KVM switch bug with the mouse ?05:12
tritiummetalsand, okay, so did you remove it?05:12
metalsandThe problem is05:12
metalsandI use that 95% of the time05:12
de_wizzecan anyone tell me that ?05:12
sir-goldmetalsand just as a diagnostic step05:12
metalsandI want this for an ehtusiast reasoning: It hooks up to a 10 dBi omni step05:12
jeavisNalioth; I want to turn on the fan05:12
metalsandErm, omni directional antenna... I read step and my fingers just typed it and pressed enter :P05:12
sir-goldmetalsand you can put it back when you get hostap working05:12
metalsandWhat if it breaks it again?05:13
metalsandI guess that's a good test to see if it's really that. I'll do it now.05:13
sir-goldthen you will know what the problem is05:13
tritiumI agree05:13
metalsandI'd really like to troubleshoot hostap further... I don't see why installing that would REMOVE wlan0 from network settings.05:13
sir-goldand if you get hostap working, do you really need the onboard wifi?05:13
osityshould LILO be installed on the MBR or the new ubuntu partition for raid1? where does this puppy go?05:13
metalsandIt doesn't even detect it anymore..05:13
tritiummetalsand, is the module loaded?05:14
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sir-goldmetalsand maybe hostap is trying to load for the onboard, and crashing before it gets to the card05:14
metalsandsir-gold: Yes, I need to use a 2.5 foot 10 dBi antenna to use the PCMCIA card (It doesn't have a radio built in - it's made for use of external radios)05:14
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Naliothjeavis i don't know any way to have an "on off switch" for your fan. i do know that if you start a compile job (or jobs) your system will slow way down (but your fans will run)05:14
metalsandtritium: I'm not logged in right now, do you want me to remove the onboard card first before we procde?05:14
xp_can the ubuntu live cd detect laptop modems that are built in?05:14
amaroWhere can I find MPlayer codecs for ubuntu package?05:14
devnullshould i remove mono and its libs if i am going to install a newer version with a different installer ?05:14
metalsandjeavis: If it's not running then it doesn't need the fan.05:15
Naliothxp_ if they are linux friendly05:15
metalsandI'm sure it's automated05:15
jeavismetalsand; my lap its very hot05:15
tritiummetalsand, sure.  Again, I'm not sticking around too long.  I just popped in to check in on things.05:15
metalsandjeavis: A laptop fan won't make that much of a difference05:15
metalsandIt's 80mm... The air displacement is minimal05:15
elcuamaro: i might be wrong, but i think you can use w32codecs05:16
metalsandtritium: Don't leave me. :x05:16
Naliothjeavis so use it on a table05:16
sir-gold"my lap is very hot" that sounds almost dirty05:16
metalsandHhahahahha05:16
tritiumjeavis, is it  a Dell laptop, by chance?05:16
jeavishp05:16
metalsandMine's a Dell Laptop05:16
metalsandWhy, tritium?05:16
amaroelcu, it's not in synaptic...05:16
Naliothhp wow it does get hot (i'm surprised the fans aren't blowing 24/7, actually)05:17
tritiummetalsand, some dell laptops can use the i8kutils to switch the fan on/off05:17
m3jshIs there anyway to bypass this?: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10_i386.deb (--unpack):05:17
m3jsh trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-005:17
chris_ubuntuDoes anyone know how to find the /dev file for a pci modem that is recognized by the kernal is lspci?05:17
sir-goldmost new laptops run hot enough to burn your lap, they wait until the last second to turn on the fans so it doesn't waste battery power05:17
metalsandWow, that's crazy you know that, tritium05:17
metalsandYou need to stay :P05:17
elcuw32codecs?  then you need to update your repo list: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:17
metalsandI don't trust the other people here. They're crazy.05:17
Naliothfriends kid got a hp 17" for xmas last year and that SOB blows like a harpooned whale WHEN NOTHING is going on05:17
chris_ubuntuDoes anyone know how to find the /dev file for a pci modem that is recognized by the kernal is lspci?05:18
metalsandbleh05:18
tritiummetalsand, there are lots of good people here.  You can trust them :)05:18
metalsandthis screwdriver is too big, brb.05:18
metalsandtritium: I was joking -.-05:18
sir-goldyes, trust me...05:18
metalsandI love my dell 700m05:18
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metalsand1.6M centrino05:18
Naliothmetalsand, yes trust me....   :P05:18
metalsandso when it's idle, it scales to like 400Mhz05:18
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metalsandaka NO heat... I can leave it on overnight and I can't hear a thing05:18
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ositythanks everyone05:19
benjasl-modem-daemon (multiverse), Depends: sl-modem-modules-new  but it is not installable. Can someone fix it05:20
Naliothmetalsand, i can't stand that hp POS, for it to blow all the time ...even when just booted and sitting there, it blows (and you can hear it all over the house)05:20
danielsbenja: that means that you need to compile the modules05:20
benjadaniels, ok05:21
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makavelihow do install a tar file05:21
makaveli?05:22
icebalmyou don't, you untar a tar file05:22
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devnullcan i add a debian source to my sources as to install a newer version of mono ?05:22
makaveliok i downloaded a program and i want to install it how do i do that05:22
danielsdevnull: breezy has 1.1.7 if you want bleeding edge05:22
Naliothdevnull, you may do as you like, but beware the consequences05:22
makavelior it is a .rpm05:23
icebalmmakaveli: extract the file and read the readme/install files in it05:23
makaveliicebalm it's a .rpm05:23
makaveliis that different05:23
tritiummakaveli, is there no equivalent package in the ubuntu repositories?05:23
makavelior i should say how would i install it05:23
icebalmmakaveli: yes, you can use alien to convert it into a .deb and install it05:23
makavelino i can't find something for a 3d desktop in ubuntus repsoitories05:23
devnullwell i am going to need to use development versions of some software05:24
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Naliothmakaveli, there are 3d desktop things there05:24
elcumakaveli: 3ddesktop?05:24
makaveliwhat are they called?05:24
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ksmurfHow come I lose my tv display when gnome starts up?05:24
tritiummakaveli, there's a 3ddesktop in universe05:24
abarbacciaksmurf, probably your xorg.conf file not configured correctly - or resolution too high05:25
makavelii just searched again and came up with nothing05:25
tritiummakaveli, you must not have universe in your /etc/apt/sources.list05:25
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makavelino i don't how would i add that05:25
makavelii wonly have binary for hoary05:25
Naliothmakaveli google the ubuntulinux.org site for "restricted formats" and it will tell you05:25
ksmurfabarbaccia My lcd screen is good and tv is good until gnome starts.  then I lose the tv. Nvidia card with bin driver if that matters05:26
makaveliok i will try that05:26
mindsporehas anyone got PHPEclipse with debugging setup successfully?05:26
tritiummakaveli, it's as simple as commenting out 2 lines in the file.  Just look for the lines with "universe"05:26
tritiumsorry, uncommenting them05:26
metalsandBleh05:26
metalsandI just opened it up05:26
amaroelcu, you are right05:27
metalsandand... Yeah, I have NO idea what I'm looknig at05:27
makaveliok05:27
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amaroelcu, I didn't have my repositories updated05:27
metalsandI've added/removed thousands of PCI cards05:27
metalsandBut never a laptop mini-PCI card05:27
metalsandThis looks difficult05:27
jamesiowould you guys recommend reiserfs or ext3 for a 300gig drive?05:27
metalsandisnt' there just a hotplug script in Ubuntu that can NOT load that up?05:27
elcuamaro: cool.  so you got them working?05:27
JoeXCoolNJmini-PCI are easy to take out. There's a slot at one end and 2 clips at the other, just like old-style memory05:27
metalsandI really don't want to start tinkering with this05:27
Naliothjamesio, who prefers apples over oranges05:27
JoeXCoolNJplus a wire bundle or 2 with a plastic connector05:28
Naliothjamesio, who like blue over red?05:28
jamesiowell, I prefer peaches...05:28
amaroelcu, not yet.. im doing the public key thing...05:28
amaroI'll tell you if I see it05:28
amarojust a min05:28
Naliothjamesio, it makes little or no difference, i believe they are both journaled file systems05:28
metalsandYEah, that's what it looks like JoeX05:28
metalsandJoeXCoolNJ05:28
metalsandBut, I don't think it's just as easy as yanking it out05:28
amaroelcu, I found it! It's there!05:29
amaroelcu, thank you!05:29
JoeXCoolNJyou have to release the 2 clips, then it will pop up slightly. then you ease it out of the slot - you may have to rock it a bit05:29
tritiumjamesio, ext3 is the more conservative choice.05:29
elcuamaro: :-) np05:29
JoeXCoolNJand you take off the wires either before or after, whichever is easier05:29
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ksmurfabarbaccia any hints on how my xorg should be configured?05:30
tritiumjamesio, in fact, I'd had filesystem corruption with reiserfs05:30
jamesiotritium, thanks.  that's enough for me05:30
jamesiosetting up a lot of drives is a pain though05:30
tritiumjamesio, that's just one person's experience, so take it for what it's worth05:30
g14Hans Reiser said stability wasn't the #1 concern for Reiser4, speed was05:30
g14And I agree with tritium05:31
jamesiook, ext3 is it.05:31
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jamesioI set up my 40 gig boot that way05:31
jamesioand the secondary 80 gig drive05:31
metalsandg14: I checked out knoppix05:31
metalsandBurned the iso onto a DVD05:31
jamesiofinished off the internal drives with ext3 (took about 10 minutes to do 6 drives)05:31
g14metalsand, knoppix, or whoppix? Knoppix is pretty cool for someone who has never seen linux05:32
metalsandVery cool. Of course neither of my wireless cards worked and I couldn't run anything, but that's a really awesome setup05:32
metalsandwhoppix*05:32
jamesioI'm doing all of this over freenx.  it works great05:32
goldfish_i got whopppix too05:32
goldfish_looks cool05:32
goldfish_i need to set up ndiswrapper on it though05:33
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devnullwhere can i find the breezy repository05:33
g14You actually have to understand how to use most of the tools to hack with whoppix, but it is the most complete linux distro for penetration testing out there05:33
goldfish_yeah i bought hacking exposed fourth edition, trying to learn about that whole area05:34
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tritiumdevnull, take a quick peek at the topic before you decide to run breezy.05:34
Naliothg14 can you spare some knowledge? how to convert src.rpms to tar.gz?05:34
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sir-goldis breezy really that bad?05:34
g14Nalioth, sudo rpm -i whatever.src.rpm05:34
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devnulli just want it for mono05:34
g14Nalioth, cd /usr/src/rpm/SOURCES05:35
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g14Nalioth, tar -zxvf whatever.tar.gz05:35
sir-golddevnull did you try adding the same lines to sources.list as normal, but change hoary to breezy?05:35
metalsandAlright05:36
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metalsandI removed the mini PCI card05:36
chillywillyooops, I am using breezy..will I be publicly flogged now?05:36
metalsandScaaaary.05:36
Naliothg14 thx, i got the last parts, just forgot the -i05:36
metalsandmini PCI is seriously mini05:36
devnullnot quite yet sir-gold05:36
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anethemachillywilly, yes05:36
anethemaheh05:36
chillywillygreat05:36
chillywillyI love pain05:36
tritiumchillywilly, would you like to be?  ;)05:36
metalsandHow's it going, anethema :P05:36
g14Nalioth, No prob. I know redhat linux inside and out and am very new to the debian world05:36
anethemaat the very least dont ask questions on how to get stuff working on a pre-testing OS :)05:36
anethemahey metalsand05:36
chillywillyYES!05:36
anethemaany luck since last week? haha05:37
metalsandokay tritium: It's removed05:37
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metalsandI'm going to boot back into Ubuntu05:37
chillywillyactually I am running breezy at work too05:37
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anethemagoooo metalsand!05:37
tritiummetalsand, okay05:37
anethemahaha05:37
chillywillydouble your pleasure!!05:37
anethemagood luck05:37
ksmurfHow do I add my tv display to my xorg.conf .... I'm such a noob05:37
Naliothg14 cooperation makes the world go round05:37
tritiumksmurf, nvidia?05:37
ksmurftri Yes05:37
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metalsandActually, electromagnetic fields make the world go round. :P05:38
tritiumksmurf, great.  /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz has a good section on "TwinView"05:38
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sir-goldmetalsand i thought it was just momentum05:38
anethemayeah, momentum05:38
anethemathats suure what it is05:38
crimsunksmurf: Primer also has example XF86Config(s) on sh.nu/nvidia05:38
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ksmurftritium Thanks I'll check both those out05:38
jamesiook here's a silly question.  I'm setting up a bunch of drives and pretty much just need them to be "data1, data2, etc"05:39
tritiumksmurf, cool :)05:39
jamesioI'm guessing I make dirs called "data1" and such in the root and mount them against it05:39
jamesiois that correct?05:39
sir-goldjamesio, yes, but you might want to put them in /mnt05:39
jamesiook05:40
metalsandtritium: iwconfig is showing no wireless devices :D05:40
chillywilly*yawn*05:40
sir-goldits just a matter of prefernce05:40
chillywillygetting late05:40
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Naliothas usual it dont work even after converting to tgz .. .. ..05:40
metalsandtritium: No conflictions now, so... Where do we begin?05:40
goldfish_4:41am hmmmmm05:40
tritiummetalsand, can you double-check that the module is loaded?05:40
Nalioth**#*@(g PPC05:40
wasabiI cannot enable DMA on my cdrom drive. It is off right now. How can I enable it?05:40
wasabihdparm says operation not permitted05:40
tritiumusing sudo?05:40
goldfish_hmmmm05:40
wasabiyes05:40
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anethemaanyone know the vlc keyboard shortcuts05:41
anethemalike skip ahead 5-10 seconds?05:41
metalsandtritrum: sudo modprobe grep hostap05:41
metalsand?05:41
wallflowerapplekey+options+arrow key05:41
wallflower;)05:41
anethemahaha05:41
metalsand?05:41
anethemayes ill just press my apple key05:42
anethemahehe05:42
tritiummetalsand, that would load it.  first lsmod | grep hostap05:42
crimsunanethema: they're listed in the menus05:42
metalsandOh, right... lsmod.05:42
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wallflowerthats how you do it on the mac05:42
metalsandIt isn't loaded05:42
metalsandI never put "hostap" in /etc/modules05:42
metalsandShall I now?05:42
anethemacrimsun, i dont see them listed anywhere05:42
tritiummetalsand, please.  That will load it in the future when you boot/05:42
jamesiosir-gold, thanks.  I got one set up...05:43
metalsandtritium: done05:43
metalsandtritium: Now modprobe hostap?05:43
tritiummetalsand, okay, yes.05:43
chillywillyg'night ladies/gents05:43
tritiumgoodnight, chillywilly05:43
metalsandokay, now lsmod reads, "hostap 123976 0"05:43
tritiumsuper05:44
jamesioother than rsync, you guys got any tricks of copying files from one drive to another?05:44
metalsandThat means the module is running, correct?05:44
tritiumyep05:44
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stetyRhello05:45
metalsandtritium: Next step?05:45
metalsandSo it's running, but my card isn't detected05:45
stetyRyou speak spanish?05:45
crimsunanethema: Settings>Hot keys?05:45
hyphenatedjamesh: is there something about rsync that makes it unsuitable for you?05:45
crimsunanethema: otherwise, use http://www.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch03.html#id252958005:45
tritiummetalsand, still no?05:45
metalsandI know it works, and I know the PCMCIA slot works...05:45
elcuwasabi: might be worth a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2750005:45
thechitowncubsGnome uses GTK, what does KDE use? it doesn't seem as fluid...05:45
crimsunthechitowncubs: Qt305:45
hyphenatedjamesh: sorry, that was for jamesio05:45
metalsandtritium: When I iwconfig nothing is even there except for lo and my 56k modem05:46
NaliothstetyR, #ubuntu-es05:46
tritiummetalsand, and you're sure hostap supports this card?05:46
elcuwasabi: specifically heimo's post.05:46
metalsandYes, tritium.05:46
thechitowncubsDoes KDE have an app like Glade?05:47
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tritiummetalsand, I don't know...I'm stumped05:47
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wasabiIt's a cddrive.05:47
wasabiI found that Ubuntu sets a kernel option to disable it05:47
revelateranyone here play bagpipes?05:47
wasabiwhich i find totally stupid.05:47
chiwawa_42thechitowncubs: the good apps use GTK, the good desktop environment use Qt05:47
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thechitowncubschiwawa: nice opinion05:48
sir-goldthechitowncubs http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/glade-users/2003-June/001407.html05:48
metalsandUmmmm.05:48
sumadartsondoes anyone use xfce?05:48
chiwawa_42thechitowncubs: well, for me it's a problem, not just an opinion05:48
metalsandGreat, I just apt-get remove evolution05:48
tritiumI believe it can be bad for certain hard drives if it's enabled.05:48
elcuwasabi: so you got it enabled?05:48
geneo93funny thing ubuntu cant find my scanner again05:48
metalsandand... It just said it was removing ubuntu-desktop05:48
wasabielcu, no.05:48
wasabielcu, looks like it takes a kernel recompile.05:49
wasabiWhich I find utterly retarded.05:49
tritiummetalsand, yes, that will happen05:49
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metalsandSo now when I boot next time it will just be a command prompt?05:49
chiwawa_42thechitowncubs: if I can get a job to do that, i'd be happy to work on a fusion project for gtk/qt :D05:49
sir-goldthechitowncubs did you look at kdevelop?05:49
thechitowncubsI know what you mean chiwawa, I used KDE for a few days, it did seem a little more responsive, but I like the overall feeling of Gnome a lot more... plus it seams like it has a brighter future05:49
tritiummetalsand, no, not at all05:50
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thechitowncubsActually, I just was curious about what the glade alternative was for kde05:50
metalsandOh... Well, why would it say removing ubuntu-desktop?05:50
TuxicityIf I were to install a Debian .deb package on Hoary, should I get it from "testing" or "unstable"? Which package *should* work best on Hoary?05:50
thechitowncubsmetalsand: its a meta package, its just a list of default packages for a fresh install05:50
tritiumIt's just a meta-package that depends on other package to provide a nice desktop environment.  Nothing was actually removed.05:50
thechitowncubshehe05:50
chiwawa_42thechitowncubs: i've used KE for 5 years, i really fell more comfortable in it than in gnome, wich is just a bunch of unmatched software... I like KDE's way to integrate solutions05:50
metalsandHrmmm. I don't quite understand that, but I'll tust you guys :P05:51
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tritiummetalsand, when it comes time to upgrade to breezy, you may want to reinstall ubuntu-desktop, but for now you're fine05:51
crimsunTuxicity: using packages from external repos is strongly recommended against05:51
thechitowncubschiwawa: gnome will become more efficient, it seems like it is progressing everyday05:51
revelateri don't like gnome, IMHO, fluxbox has the brightest future05:51
sir-goldmetalsand ubutu-desktop is kinda like egg-carton, you remove an egg and you no longer have a carton05:52
IIIEarsI need info on my video card - what is the command to probe hardware and print that to the screen?05:52
chiwawa_42thechitowncubs: if gnome ends up with a decent file manager, i'd probably give it another try05:52
revelatergnome uses too much resources05:52
geneo93crimsun:  can you tell me why ubuntu wiped my scanner conf05:52
revelateris too big and slow05:52
crimsunrevelater: gnome is an environment, though, so it's not an apples-to-apples comparison05:52
metalsandUhm, if you remove an egg there's still the carton with all the other eggs.05:52
thechitowncubsrevelater: fluxbox, brightest future?05:52
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metalsand:P05:52
revelaterand it is way to difficult to personlize and adjust05:52
thechitowncubsBTW, has anyone tried Luminocity?05:52
crimsunrevelater: if anything you need to be contrasting metacity and fluxbox05:52
metalsandI'm surprised Ubuntu takes up so much memory... 116 MB while running only terminal05:52
chiwawa_42crimsun: no, gnome is _not_ an environment, it's not deepmly integrated as kde is05:52
anethemammm gnome05:52
sir-goldmetalsand, well yeah, but it doesn't remove the other eggs, i couldn't think of a metter analogy05:52
Naliothanyone know what happened to the nice weather tool in Evolution?05:53
concept10how do I boot the ubuntu live cd on a powerbook?05:53
chiwawa_42thechitowncubs: luminocity is just a visual gadget for geeks05:53
revelatercrimsun, what is metacity?05:53
JoeXCoolNJhas anybody had any luck getting an Alps Glidepoint working under kernel 2.6?05:53
crimsunchiwawa_42: that's an interesting opinion05:53
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chiwawa_42concept10: hold down the C key05:53
sir-goldconcept10 hold c05:53
thechitowncubschiwawa, I know what it is...05:53
JoeXCoolNJit works on the live cd, but not installed to the hard drive05:53
concept10I never used mac before05:53
concept10hold down C during boot?05:53
sir-goldyes05:53
hyphenatedmetalsand: you'll probably find that a big chunk of it is memory used for caching recently accessed files05:53
crimsunrevelater: it's a window manager (gnome 2.x's), just as fluxbox is05:53
concept10thxz05:53
danielscan we please not have gnome/kde wars in here?05:53
tritiummetalsand, well, I better go.  Sorry we didn't get the hostap stuff working.05:53
thechitowncubsand chiwawa, you can have an opinion about gnome but whatever you say, its an enviornment05:53
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chris_ubuntuDoes anyone know how to find the /dev file for a pci modem that is recognized by the kernal is lspci?05:54
IIIEarslol@daniels05:54
chiwawa_42daniels: it's not a war, i'm fighting for peace and cooperation05:54
metalsandtritium: Weird habbit, but that's okay. No one really knows what's wrong05:54
tritiummetalsand, what is?05:54
metalsandWell, I'm sure someone with this card and this kernel does... But yeah. :P05:54
revelatercrimsun: all i know is that, running gnome, i have ALL of my ram taken up05:54
Tuxicitycrimsun, there is no BZFlag 2.0 for Hoary. What could happen if I install just that one package from Sid/Sarge?05:54
metalsandThe quick checking in... Lol05:54
chiwawa_42daniels: the solution is to build gnome apps over a qt/kde basis05:54
crimsunTuxicity: I'd check the package dependencies first, but it should flow right in05:54
metalsandI guess it's a good habbit, I'm just so used to sitting on my computer for 5 hours at a time :P05:55
revelatercrimsun: where as my whole system with fluxbox takes only about 45 megs :P05:55
tritiummetalsand, well, I need breaks every now and then, so I come in here and hang out with all you cool people05:55
danielschiwawa_42: that's no more useful than saying 'let's rewrite all kde apps in gtk using gnome libs'.  it's not useful, or sensible, or helpful.  nor is it on-topic for this channel.05:55
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crimsunrevelater: well if I run Linux 2.0.36 on my i386, I "use less RAM" than with 2.6.10 - the point being that it's all up to the user's definitions and uses.05:55
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chiwawa_42daniels: i'm conviced gtk is the best api, but it has a poor underlaying design, where Qt has been designed as an integrate platform05:56
revelatercrimsu: shouldn't the newer kernels be more efficient?05:56
danielschiwawa_42: that's good, but it's not relevant to this channel, nor will it be useful to solve any problem in general05:56
chiwawa_42thus allowing kde to be more integrated and to provide solutions where gnome brings problems05:56
revelatercrimsun: sorry05:56
JoeXCoolNJAnyone? Anyone?05:56
revelatercrimsun: didn't register the n05:56
danielschiwawa_42: if you want to go convince #gnome-hackers and #kde-devel, then please go do so, but it's just generating noise in here05:56
metalsandHoly crap05:56
metalsandWhat's evolution-alamr-notify05:56
crimsunrevelater: the new kernels scale much better than the older ones, yes. There're always a few tradeoffs. ;)05:56
metalsandOh, nm.05:57
thechitowncubslol05:57
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thechitowncubsits an alarm05:57
revelatercrimsun: what do you mean by scale?05:57
thechitowncubsthat notifies you05:57
thechitowncubsadjust05:57
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: it works fine05:57
chiwawa_42daniels: well, you're certainly right, and as you got the @, I better have to STFU05:57
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metalsandI thought Linux would be a lot less stressful05:57
crimsunrevelater: 16, 32, 64 cpus05:57
metalsandI didn't expect 120 megs05:57
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thechitowncubsmetalsand: it handles ram more efficiently05:57
revelatercrimsun: isee05:57
thechitowncubsits one of the biggest mis conceptions05:57
metalsandMy windows XP box runs about 80 megs05:58
revelatermetalsand: you are in terminal?05:58
crimsunLinux caches aggressively. It's _normal_ (and expected) that one has very little free physical memory05:58
metalsandI closed it05:58
JoeXCoolNJcrimsun: it's working fine booted to the live cd, but not when I boot to the hdd. any idea where I should start looking?05:58
thechitowncubsWindows XP has to load the application fully... its not cached in any way05:58
hyphenatedmetalsand: type in 'free', and have a look at how big the '-/+ buffers/cache' amount is05:58
thechitowncubseven when programs are closed, you'll notice ram being taken up05:59
revelatermetalsand: are you running gnome?05:59
metalsandHrmmm. Why does Firefox take 15 seconds to start then :P05:59
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:59
JoeXCoolNJmy pointer doesn't move at all or respond to any button clicks05:59
metalsandIf it caches05:59
thechitowncubsits not being "permanently used", but it is caching for faster boot times of the application, plus it will also give up RAM to applications that are in need of it05:59
metalsandSays it's "used 339 megs"05:59
Naliothmetalsand, firefox is not coded well, in my opinion, it really suck CPU on both my OSX and linux machines06:00
metalsandNalioth: It runs on this current machine within a second06:00
sir-goldkubuntu doesn't really play nice with with 64 meg of ram total i have 5 meg free physical and it swaps like crazy when i run anything06:00
Tuxicitycrimsun, then coming back to my 1st question, in theory should Hoary's deps look more like those of Sid/Sarge(currently)?06:00
hyphenatedNalioth: I find it only does that when I have some animated images or embedded flash stuff in the page06:00
chiwawa_42metalsand: with a full DE an a bunch of heavy graphical apps, linux is _not_ lightweight06:00
crimsunTuxicity: difficult to say. At this point, more like Sarge's in some cases.06:00
hyphenatedNalioth: disabling those helped a lot06:00
metalsandDE?06:01
sir-goldTuxicity: for the most part they do06:01
chiwawa_42metalsand: Desktop Environment06:01
Naliothi've only used macs for the last 3 years, and have found ff to be a hog06:01
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metalsandchiwawa_42: I'm currently running nothing in gnome... I wouldn't say there's a lot of heavy graphical apps :x06:01
tarkanhi everybody06:01
thechitowncubsmetalsand: no reason to worry about memory usage unless you are running on low memory or are using buggy apps :)06:01
chiwawa_42metalsand: gnome is the heaviest06:01
Naliothhyphenated, unfortunately the "swf_play" on my machine here has been er disabled, as it sucks all available CPU when it TRIES to work06:01
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revelatermetalsand: are you running the desktop enviroment though?06:02
metalsandrevelater: Yes.06:02
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thechitowncubsrunning in a low amount of memory (<256mb)*06:02
revelatermetasland: that alone should take more than it says it is using :P06:02
metalsandrevelater: I'm just worrying about games and stuff06:02
tarkancan anybody help me plz????06:02
metalsandI thought an advantage to user Linux would be low memory use06:02
tarkanhelp! I need somebody Help.!06:02
chiwawa_42tarkan: ask your qquestion first, then you'll see06:02
metalsandSo new games could use an extra 50 megs of memory or so when that's needed.06:02
revelatermetalsand: don't worry about it, when the system needs more memory it will clear some out06:03
thechitowncubsmetalsand: I play Counter-Strike and it runs just as it would in windows, w/ gdesklets, xchat,firefox running on 512mb of memory on a 2500+06:03
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tarkanok06:03
nullvoidhi all I am using IBM T22 - S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13); I saw people are getting 1400x1050 but I only have 1024x768 even I had follow their instruction to change xorg.conf but the modification doesn't give effect.06:03
metalsandI'm just a system resource nut06:03
thechitowncubsmetalsand: you're just gonna have to forget about it :)06:03
metalsandEverything that I didn't need in Windows was disabled, all of the 70 or so services...06:03
metalsandOkay, forgotten06:03
metalsandSo, help me fix my PCMCIA card06:03
tarkani just installed for the very first time ubuntu on my pc06:03
chris_ubuntuCan anybody help me with a modem issue?06:03
revelatermetalsand: i am the same way06:03
tarkaneverything works just fine06:03
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tarkanone thing06:04
nullvoidchris: just ask dont ask to ask06:04
chiwawa_42tarkan: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html <- for your next question, don't forget to read this first06:04
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revelatermetalsand: ' use only what is needed, keep the rest for what is wanted alter'06:04
revelater*later06:04
metalsandGood quote ;)06:04
tarkanI cant connect my sonyericsson p800 phone via usb craddle to the pc06:04
MahlIf I were to upgrade my graphics card...what would I have to do within Ubuntu? would it boot or would it fail to start X?06:04
chris_ubuntunullvoid, ok how do I set up my modem?06:04
metalsandSounds like something an asian general would say :P06:04
revelaterMahl, if you are lucky it will boot06:05
Mahland if im not lucky what will I have to do?06:05
chiwawa_42tarkan: i you google for an howto?06:05
chiwawa_42did*06:05
revelaterworst case cenario you have to reconfigure x06:05
Mahlreconfigure the x config file?06:05
Drako60ok i have an odd space issue, it says that there is no space somewhere that it needs it, when i tried to do apt-get remove linux-headers it said it was in /var/lib/dpkg/updates and /var/lib/dpkg/status06:05
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Mahlah ok cool thanks :)06:05
tarkanno chiwawa_4206:05
metalsandQuestion: If I have a 5 gig Mp3 library on my windows partition06:05
metalsandIs there anyway to be able to play songs off of that in ubuntu?06:05
revelaterMahl, your driver should have came with something like that06:05
thechitowncubsyes06:05
kwamehi06:05
thechitowncubsmetalsand: www.ubuntuguide.org06:05
chiwawa_42tarkan: go find by yourself, then ask in case of en emergency or if you really can't find out please06:06
tarkani am just trying to connect my phone to my pc running ubuntu06:06
tarkannothing else06:06
sir-goldMahl it might fail to load X, in which case you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pick something generic like vesa06:06
Drako60problem is i can't figure out why its telling me no more space06:06
kwameHow can I know in what of my 6 usb ports is my usb printer attached?06:06
chris_ubuntuHow do I get Ubuntu to recognize my modem?06:06
thechitowncubsmount the directory, then import it into your music app06:06
chiwawa_42tarkan: and read the link i gave you06:06
MahlOk thanks!06:06
thechitowncubsbasic steps...06:06
revelaterMahl, yes, what sir-gold said06:06
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tarkanits now 07:00 o'clock int the morning in istanbul and i finished installing ubuntu aprox 5 hours ago06:06
tarkanstill no solutions06:07
revelaterMahl, make sure you get the right drivers also!!06:07
sir-goldvesa will get X working until you can get the right drivers going06:07
MahlI got the ones from within synaptic package manager06:07
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JoeXCoolNJso in the Xorg log, there are no errors when it tries to load the mouse and synaptics drivers. But in X and at the console, there's zero response from the touchpad. :(06:07
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: please paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto http://pastebin.com06:07
revelaterdoes a touchpad work in linux??06:07
JoeXCoolNJno errors in dmesg either06:07
thechitowncubstarkan: google it next time if you are wondering about linux support for your hardware :)06:07
tarkandid u hear me chiwawa_4206:07
chiwawa_42tarkan: http://celso.arrifana.org/?page_id=5/06:08
concept10okay, almost started family war installing linux on my sisters powerbook g406:08
crimsunrevelater: yes, I'm using one right now.06:08
sir-goldrevelater it does if it uses ps206:08
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sir-goldeven the pad-egde-scrolling works06:08
revelatercrimsun: how is the intergration with gimp?06:08
crimsunrevelater: no idea06:08
nullvoidchris: whats your lspci say06:08
revelatercrimsun, and do you have a plug and play touchpad?06:08
tarkanthanks06:08
Naliothrevelater, mine does06:08
crimsunrevelater: it's a built-in Synaptics one on the laptop06:08
tarkanill try this one out straight away :)06:09
metalsandWhat are backports repositories?06:09
chiwawa_42tarkan: it's the first answer from google, you should have found it by yourself06:09
revelatercrimsun, ahh, you are using a mouse06:09
tarkanr u kidding me06:09
MahlBut I cant06:09
chiwawa_42tarkan: no06:09
tarkani am talking about 5 hours06:09
Naliothl8r06:09
Mahlnevermind..06:09
Drako60Question: ok i have an odd space issue, it says that there is no space somewhere that it needs it, when i tried to do apt-get remove linux-headers it said it was in /var/lib/dpkg/updates and /var/lib/dpkg/status but i have no idea why its telling it has no space06:09
chiwawa_42tarkan: http://www.google.fr/linux?hl=fr&q=+sonyericsson+p800&btnG=Rechercher&meta=06:10
tarkanand no solutin at all in google06:10
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crimsunDrako60: do you have enough space on /var ?06:10
metalsandWhat are backports repositories?06:10
Drako60i have 11% of 150GBs used06:10
JoeXCoolNJcrimsun, done06:10
allyni think backports are new progs ported to old versions of ubuntu06:10
revelaterdi need to get a 250 gig hd...06:10
metalsandAh. Thanks06:10
thechitowncubsmetalsand: it is a repository with updated software... ubuntu doesn't provide any updates besides security, so if you want to be running the latest and greatest, add im to your /etc/apt/sources.list06:11
thechitowncubsmetalsand: i feel smart answering your easy questions :)06:11
metalsandthechitowncubs: Good :)06:12
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Drako60i checked that first crimsun it doesn't make sense why its saying there is no space, /dev/shm is completely free, /tmp is free,06:12
thechitowncubsmetalsand: im done answering, go check out the forums and guide...06:12
thechitowncubsseriously, you'll learn a lot06:12
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: but there are errors06:13
chris_ubuntuIf I were to go and purchase a pci modem for my intel box, wanted to plug it in and have ubuntu recognize it and be able to utilize it no prob, does anyone have any recomendations for what modem to buy?06:13
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: look at lines 779-787 of your paste06:13
chiwawa_42chris_ubuntu: buy a serial modem :D06:14
chris_ubuntuchiwawa_42: what is a serial modem?  An external?06:14
chiwawa_42yup06:14
nullvoidchris: any modem except winmodem06:14
chiwawa_42it's getting harder to find a non wimodem on the market today06:14
chris_ubuntunullvoid: are all pci modems winmodems?06:15
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nullvoidchris: not really06:15
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chris_ubuntunullvoid: is there an internal I could just buy that you can recommend?06:15
JoeXCoolNJthat's odd. Must have missed it. But my mouse is configured for /dev/input/mice, not /dev/psaux06:15
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: is your touchpad enabled in bios?06:16
JoeXCoolNJchecked. There's no option to disable or enable06:16
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: do you have legacy mouse emulation enabled in bios?06:18
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JoeXCoolNJmy bios is bare. there's nothing like that. no legacy mouse, no legacy usb, nothing.06:18
Drako60i can't even open a man page because it says there is no space to create tmp file06:19
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: not even PnP OS?06:19
firefly2442If I update my graphics card, is there any reconfiguration that I need to do manually so it can be recognised?06:19
crimsunDrako60: please paste the output from the following in #flood: free -m ; df -h06:19
JoeXCoolNJthat I don't remember. what should I have selected? No?06:19
Drako60JoeXCoolNJ, have you checked dmesg | grep -i input06:19
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: correct, "no"06:19
metalsandis there a term command that lists hard drive partition names?06:19
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JoeXCoolNJchecking dmesg now06:20
Drako60metalsand, df -h06:20
senator32where is the file to edit that changes your default window manager...aka "xdm" "kdm" or "gdm"06:20
Drako60crimsun, posted06:21
firefly2442fdisk -l06:21
danielssenator32: login manager?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow foo06:21
nullvoidchris: buy broadcom or 3com06:21
danielswhere foo is xdm, kdm, or gdm; any of those that you have installed will do06:21
senator32yea thats it06:21
metalsandDidn't display antyhing firefly06:22
JoeXCoolNJcrimsun, nothing at all. just 3 lines about pc speaker06:22
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metalsandDrako60: I was looking for partitions, not file system info.06:22
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metalsandSo I could tell which partion my windows partition is on to mount it...06:22
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: ok, take a look at http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/trouble-shooting.txt then06:23
JoeXCoolNJwill do. Brb I'm gonna reboot and check the PNP.06:23
allynits probably fdisk /dev/hda -l06:23
allynnever mind that diesnt work either06:24
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crimsunDrako60: ok, looks good so far. When are you getting disk space errors?06:24
metalsandCool, that was it allyn06:24
crimsunDrako60: and does dmesg tell you anything regarding your controller?06:24
metalsandLol06:24
metalsandYeah, it worked.06:24
Drako60when i try to open a man page, or do apt-get remove or dpkg --build source06:25
allynheh it was? didnt work for me , it worked once i went sudo06:25
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metalsandYeah06:25
metalsandI had to sudo06:25
allynyeah it works for me on sudo aswell06:26
mr_robotosudo parted /dev/hda print  ?06:26
chris_ubuntuAnybody have anything negative to say about a Diamond external modem?06:26
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crimsunDrako60: from what dir are you trying to build a package?06:27
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firefly2442If I update my graphics card, is there any reconfiguration that I need to do manually so it can be recognised?06:28
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Tuxicityfirefly2442, i think you might want to change the driver in xorg.conf?06:29
Drako60crimsun, i've tried from ~ and /06:29
Tuxicityfirefly2442, from "nvidia" to "ati", for example06:29
firefly2442so just figure out the module that is needed?06:29
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LeeColletonhello ubuntu users!06:31
Tuxicityfirefly2442, and add the new module to /etc/modules also maybe06:31
Drako60crimsun, dmesg doesn't say any errors for IDE controller06:31
stuNNedhi LeeColleton06:31
TuxicityLeeColleton, well hello friend :)06:31
firefly2442super, well, that sounds fairly easy06:31
Tuxicityfirefly2442, of course, you might also want to adjust refresh rates, etc.06:32
crimsunDrako60: persists across reboots?06:32
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firefly2442yes, well the monitor won't be changing06:32
metalsandror: fails when I boot06:32
metalsandWhat does that mean?06:32
metalsandTemporary something... didn't have time to read06:32
Drako60crimsun, thats a good question i didn't want to reboot yet06:32
geneo93crimsun:  i still cant find my scanner and it worked before06:33
crimsungeneo93: what do the logs report/06:33
LeeColletonI'm trying to connect my Mac OS X computer to an Ubuntu box using NFS.  Alas, it does not work.06:33
firefly2442thanks for the help06:33
geneo93crimsun:  which log06:33
crimsungeneo93: any, all06:33
metalsandAfter I've mounted a Windows partition (hd1), how do I navigate to it in terminal?06:34
firefly2442LeeColleton: I believe there is a bug in Tiger w/Samba06:34
LeeColletonare there any NFS wizards in channel who might deign to ponder my question?06:34
stuNNedLeeColleton: sure the osx box is using NFS and not AFP?06:34
LeeColletonfirefly2442: I've tried this on 10.3 and 10.406:34
firefly2442ahh06:34
LeeColletonstuNNed: certain06:34
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Drako60crimsun, if i'm running a system where i have to boot with ide=nodma i should be able to set idebus=133 running and AMD64 correct?06:34
stuNNedLeeColleton: which is the server?06:34
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crimsunDrako60: oh my, don't mess with idebus06:34
LeeColletonstuNNed: two peers on a LAN06:34
LeeColletonstuNNed: oh, the Ubuntu box06:35
crimsunDrako60: what you did is very bad06:35
Drako60crimsun, i haven't06:35
Drako60crimsun, but i have to boot with ide=nodma or i get kernel panic06:35
crimsunDrako60: idebus != front side bus06:35
crimsunDrako60: which kernel?06:35
stuNNedLeeColleton: what's your /etc/exports look like on the Ubuntu box?06:35
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LeeColletonvery simple: /var/lib/drqueue        10.0.0.*(all_squash,rw,insecure,sync)06:36
Drako60crimsun, 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic06:36
shandihey guys..uhh im trying to get my palm tungsten E working in ubuntu hoary06:36
LeeColletonconnections from other linux systems work NP06:36
stuNNedLeeColleton: oh06:36
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crimsunDrako60: not -k8 ?06:36
Drako60crimsun, but it assumes 33mhz bus for pio mode06:36
shandiran through the wizard in the preferences and it seemed to be successful06:36
stuNNedLeeColleton: how are you trying to mount on the osx box?06:36
crimsunDrako60: it should be 33 regardless.06:37
Drako60crimsun, no not yet06:37
shandibut how do i use evolution to get all the information from the palm to the computer?06:37
JoeXCoolNJcrimsun, there's not even a PNP option. But I'm certain it's not hardware, because like I said, the touchpad works with the Live CD06:37
shandito use in evolution06:37
allynpci bus is 33 if im not mistaken06:37
JoeXCoolNJso it has to be something in configuration that I'm missing06:37
Drako60crimsun, on debian kernel upgrades were a pain and didn't always work correctly06:37
LeeColletoni've tried the Finder > Go > Connect to Server route, which gives an "Invalid Username/Password" error which is of course totally bogus as NFS doesn't use either06:37
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: did you take a look at the hints on the troubleshooting guide?06:37
JoeXCoolNJreading over it as we type. :)06:38
crimsunDrako60: granted that may have been, but this is ubuntu.06:38
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stuNNedLeeColleton: try on the server from a root prompt: 'exportfs -ra' on teh osx box i'm guessing drop to a root prompt and run 'mount -a' ?06:38
LeeColletonand i've tried the "sudo mount -t nfs 10.0.0.254:/var/lib/drqueue /mnt/foo" method, which says permission denied06:38
shandiwhen i press the hotsync button it says it hotsyncs but none of my iunfo shows up in evolution06:38
shandican anyone help?06:38
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Drako60crimsun, whats the easier way to upgrage to the k8 kernel?06:38
shandiim lost06:38
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LeeColletonstuNNed: command not found06:39
LeeColletonthe osx box is the client, not the server06:39
shandino one here has got a palm going on ubuntu/evolution ?06:39
metalsandAfter I've mounted a Windows partition (hd1), how do I navigate to it in terminal?06:39
LeeColletonshandi: I have, once upon a time06:40
LeeColletonback in Warty06:40
shandiLeeColleton, remember what you did to make evolution import all the data from the palm?06:40
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crimsunDrako60: install linux-k806:40
shandiin the settings it reads the name properly (shandi TE)06:40
stuNNedLeeColleton: i'm not sure how to mount a remote nfs fs in osx, does disk utility show anything?06:40
shandibut no data gets put in evolution06:40
shandiits a tungsten e06:40
allynmetalsand where did you ount it?06:41
stuNNedLeeColleton: the osx box says 'command not found' to 'mount -a' ?06:41
Drako60crimsun, i posted the message i get just befor the kernel panic in #Flood06:41
LeeColletonstuNNed: nope, but the mount_nfs command should work.  (and it doesn't)06:41
crimsunDrako60: sorry, linux-amd64-k806:41
Drako60crimsun, through apt?06:41
stuNNedLeeColleton: ah ok06:41
LeeColletonstuNNed: no, to exportfs06:41
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crimsunDrako60: sure06:41
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stuNNedLeeColleton: one sec06:42
LeeColletonstuNNed: the Ubuntu (nfs server) box gives this to exportfs: /var/lib/drqueue 10.0.0.*06:42
metalsandallyn: dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs umask=0222 0 0 in /etc/fstab06:42
Drako60crimsun, bios reporting wrong bit code could that be caused by the BIOS set to PnP OS Yes in the bios?06:42
crimsunDrako60: could be.06:43
stuNNedLeeColleton: and works on the other *nix client boxen06:43
ali4728Help Needed! How do I configure PHP to use mail() function / send mail through html page with Postfix on my Linux/ubuntu computer?  Thanks06:43
LeeColletonabsolutely06:43
Drako60crimsun, hmm i hadn't even thought of it normally i turn that off when i run linux06:43
shandihey i think i just found it in conduits06:43
LeeColletonthe logs are interesting06:43
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allynmetal just type cd /media/windows06:43
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allynthen "ls" to get a listing of files06:44
stuNNedLeeColleton: tried in 'connect to server' : nfs://servername/pathtoexport ?06:44
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LeeColletonhere is a line from a "sudo mount" connection attempt: May  9 20:18:00 localhost rpc.mountd: refused mount request from temporal for /var/lib/drqueue (/): no export entry06:44
stuNNedLeeColleton: you need exportfs command on the server afaik06:45
LeeColletonstuNNed: yes, gives "Invalid Username/Password" which is bogus06:45
LeeColletonstuNNed: right, see above06:45
JairunCalothfinaly got my moniter to display properly06:45
LeeColleton<LeeColleton> stuNNed: the Ubuntu (nfs server) box gives this to exportfs: /var/lib/drqueue 10.0.0.*06:45
JairunCalothnow that pesky NTFS partition won't let me access anymore06:45
senator32_hey i used Synaptic package manager to install "freedoom" and i seem to be unable to figure out how to run it...(im currently in KDE btw, but even in gnome i cant figure how it workds) please help cause i need to waste time in lit class06:45
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stuNNedLeeColleton: tried the NetInfoManger method?06:46
metalsandAfter I've mounted a Windows partition (hd1), how do I navigate to it in terminal?06:46
LeeColletonstuNNed: yes, both directly and via 3rd party tool "NFSManager"06:46
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senator32_any ideas...as to maybe what the command may be?06:47
LeeColletonIt creates a broken symlink or an empty entry under /Volumes/<server>/path/supposedly/mounted/06:47
senator32_and no its not "freedoom" tryied that :)06:47
stuNNedLeeColleton: what NFS packages have you installed on the server?06:48
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LeeColletonsenator32: dpkg -L freedoom06:48
stuNNedLeeColleton: i'm thinking you're missing something as command 'exportfs' isn't there06:48
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senator32_do i do that in a specific directory?06:48
Tuxicitysenator32, no it will list the files it installed for that package06:49
xthepicI'm having a problem with my laptop and the lid.sh script when opening/closing the lid. Does anyone know about this who can help out really quick?06:49
xthepicI think I've narrowed it down a bit.06:49
LeeColletonstuNNed: the exportfs command is installed and functional on the Ubuntu NFS Server.  I can connect fine from other Linux machines, both Debian and Ubuntu06:49
stuNNedLeeColleton: also did you see this? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpNFSHowTo  i know it works on the other *nix boxen but just in case06:49
stuNNedLeeColleton: yes, ok, exportfs -ra is to be run on the NFS server, ok06:49
Tuxicitymetalsand, cd /media/windows06:49
LeeColletonstuNNed: thanks, I'll read that over06:49
Drako60crimsun, the space issue seems to have sorted itself out, i wonder what was locking it06:50
metalsandTuxicity: thanks06:50
amaroUBUNTU! :D06:50
LeeColletonsenator32_: no specific directory needed, it will give you a list of all the files in that package06:50
Tuxicitymetalsand, allyn answered you first, but you missed it :)06:50
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LeeColletonsenator32_:  dpkg -L freedoom | grep /bin/06:50
senator32_LeeColleton: i did it and it showd me the packages06:50
senator32_now what06:50
GattonHmmm distrowatch wasn't kidding when it said this distro was getting popular ;-)06:51
LeeColletonsenator32_: one of those packages is a binary that you can call from the command line to run your precious timewaster06:51
senator32_ok so just try theri names06:51
LeeColletons/packages/files/06:51
senator32_got it06:51
senator32_thx'06:51
JairunCalothsweet, I can access my ntfs drive from gnome again06:52
JairunCaloththis stuff isn't too bad once you start to figure out how it all works06:52
xthepicOn my laptop, in /etc/acpi/lid.sh it checks /proc/acpi/button/lid/LIDD/state to see if the lid is open or closed. It always says that it's closed. Anyone know why this could be?06:52
sir-goldi just installed freedoom and i don't see anything executable06:52
allynCombined with the GPL-licensed Doom source code this will result in a06:53
allyncomplete Free Doom-based game.06:53
dr_willisor use synaptic and check the files it installed.06:53
sir-goldit didn't put anything in /bin06:53
allyncopied that from the synaptic description06:53
allyni guess we need other files06:53
JoeXCoolNJcrimsun, you have a win.06:53
dr_willisit may be in /usr/local/src or /usr/local/games ect...06:53
JoeXCoolNJ"rmmod psmouse ; modprobe -v psmouse" fixed it.06:53
JoeXCoolNJsimple simple crap. :) So how do I get it to work automatically in the future? What do I need to change in the config files?06:54
dr_willisit LOOKS like freedoom installed prdoom and fredoom06:54
sir-goldah, run prboom06:54
crimsunJoeXCoolNJ: excellent.06:54
dr_willisI am betting ath prdoom is the binary. and the freedoom is free levels.06:54
dr_willisor - /usr/share/games/doom06:55
allynprboom runs it06:56
allynah the memories ;-)06:56
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=== Gatton chants *I will get used to sudo. I will get used to sudo* :-)
anethemaheh sudo is nice06:57
Drako60sudo is only nice if your doing one command and not multiply06:57
anethemaso use su then06:57
JoeXCoolNJif you don't like doing sudo on every command, you can always do sudo su -06:57
anethemaer06:57
anethemanot su06:57
Gattonyes but i am so used to su-ing all the time and am trying to just go the sudo route rather than sudo passwd06:57
anethemathere is a sudo command to put you in root temporarily06:58
sir-goldsudo -s06:58
anethemathere you go06:58
anethemado that06:58
dr_willisallyn,  if you have the origianl doom wads/disks around - thers some enhanced doom variatns out that are great06:58
sumadartsonsudo bash06:58
g14Open up your ~/.bashrc in a text editor. Add alias apt-get="sudo /usr/bin/apt-get"06:58
g14After that, when you type apt-get, it automaticly runs it with sudo06:58
Drako60hmm doesn't look like i'm going to get wine running on this system06:59
allyncool i have them somewhere its been awhile, have t find a computer with a floppy drive ;-006:59
dr_willisallyn,  floppy? Ick.. go get the Ultimate Dooom archive for like $9 on CD in stores all over the place.06:59
allynoh ok i havent looked for that07:00
allynthanks07:00
IIIEarsnice tip07:00
dr_willisit will have doom I and II and the orricial extra expansion packs. :P07:00
HrdwrBoBdon't use floppies ever07:00
HrdwrBoBthat's a good move07:00
anethemayes07:00
anethemai agree HrdwrBoB07:00
anethemanever EVER use floppies for anythign07:00
HrdwrBoBdisconnect your floppy drive07:01
anethemai have years ago07:01
allyncant disconnect what i dont have lol07:01
dr_willisheh - window users with serial ata often HAVE to have one. :P to get xp to load the drivers.07:01
IIIEarsyou are kidding. why is that?07:01
anethemaexaclty07:01
anethemano floppy07:01
anethemadr_willis, no07:01
GattonI feel like a crusty old coot hanging to my fd007:01
dr_willisIve got  1 machine with a floppy drive.. its a 7 slot media reader+ floppy.07:01
anethemai made a slipstream cd of xp07:01
anethemahad my raid drivers in it07:01
anethemasata raid07:01
dr_willisanethema,  thats nice :P  but EVIL :P07:02
allynanethema you heard of nlite?07:02
anethemanlite?07:02
anethemano07:02
IIIEarsanathema what app did you use to slipstream the other app?07:02
allynyeah07:02
anethemauhhh windows?07:02
anethemaoh07:02
holycowanethema, slipstream is just winxp installer with latest patches applied correct?07:02
anethemacant remeber the name07:02
allynit slipstereaams and alows removal of windows componets07:02
IIIEarsyes - there are several helpful apps to do it.07:02
anethemaholycow, slipstreaming is just including other software/drivers in your windows install07:02
holycowk07:03
anethemapatches or otherwise07:03
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anethemaIIIEars, there was one great one, burnt the iso for you and all07:03
dr_willisgotta love how XP decides that MS messenger is a critically impornant app. :P07:03
anethemaforget its name tho07:03
IIIEarsand removing the oem trial ware cruft07:03
allyni used nlite to get a xp without messanger or outlook07:03
Drako60crimsun, does apt install suggested packages?07:03
holycowi can see how slipstreamed cd for winders can be usefull if you do alot of that07:03
holycowfortunately i don't07:03
anethemaheh07:03
anethemawell07:03
Drako60or anyone for that matter07:03
anethemait also makes an unattended install of xp07:04
anethemawhich is really nice07:04
dr_willisDrako60,  you can tell it to do so,07:04
IIIEarsallyn - lol i know what you mean it outlook and messenger are the first things i disable too.07:04
anethemacourse both me and my gf have switched to ubuntu now07:04
Drako60dr_willis, but it doesn't by default, because i don't want lilo07:04
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anethemai was a slack user for about 5 years..then xp came out and i used that for a bit07:04
anethemathen back to slack...now ubuntu07:04
anethemaheh07:04
anethemaloove ubuntu07:04
IIIEarsUbuntu - is the best for anything on the 'net.07:04
oeaqucick questions guys.. trying to install mplayer on hoary.. didn't realise the multiverse had packages so went the compile route... uninstalled it now when i try to apt-get mplayer get a weird error07:05
holycow i just bloody hate windows, horrible gui, horrible file system, horrible installers, it's like it was designed by 12 blind monkeys07:05
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holycownone of it makes any sense07:05
oeamplayer-386: Depends: libsvga1 but it is not installable or07:05
IIIEarsstill 3d acceleration is tough to enable even when it is supported.07:05
oeaany ideas?07:05
holycowthey keep on polishing the turd, yet ... somehow it doesn't help07:05
anethemaoea, yeah07:05
anethemasec ill show you07:05
oeathanks07:05
anethemado this instead07:05
allynyeah IIIEars though with nlite they never get installed in the first place ;-) its so nice, my xp install is only 800ish Mb , with the full Xp its 1Gig+07:05
MetallicBAnny one got toe knowllige to install JAVA RUNTIME env?07:06
anethemasudo apt-get -t hoary install mplayer-58607:06
oeaheh07:06
anethemaor if you have a athlon xp07:06
oeai was just about to say..07:06
anethemasudo apt-get -t hoary install mplayer-k607:06
oeai forgot about -t hoary07:06
oeaheheheh07:06
anethemaor 707:06
IIIEarsAh "nlite" many thanks :)07:06
allynmetallicb07:06
MetallicByes allyn07:06
holycowMetallicB, go to the ubuntu website looke up installing java 1.5 sdk07:06
allynits easy just make sure to change permisions to ececute07:06
holycowyou just need to add a repository and apt-get install java-whateveritis07:06
oeahmm anethema  same error07:06
IIIEars"" i could use jave also.07:07
anethemareally07:07
anethemasudo apt-get -t hoary install mplayer-58607:07
oealibsvgal or svgalib-dummygl uninstallable07:07
MetallicBwel i work at a chatting board with requires java to get on it07:07
anethemadoesnt work ?07:07
GattonMetallicB, I just followed the instructions on the java download page for the non rpm version. worked like a charm07:07
allyndo you too have it downloaded for jave07:07
anethemawhat error again ?07:07
allynthe j2re whatever file?07:07
oeaneg07:07
oea mplayer-586: Depends: libsvga1 but it is not installable or07:07
oea                        svgalib-dummyg1 but it is not installable07:07
oeai think i borked it when i tried to install from source07:07
anethemaweird07:07
oeaheh07:07
IIIEarsThanks gatton07:07
anethemahmm who knows07:07
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MetallicBIl check both sites :O07:08
JairunCalothhow good is wine at running games?07:08
Gattonnp07:08
holycowJairunCaloth, not at all07:08
anethemanot sure how to fix that oea07:08
anethemasorry man07:08
JairunCalothis there anything that will run them?07:08
anethemadid you add all the repositories07:08
anethemaextra ones?07:08
GattonMetallicB, I got mine from here   http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp07:09
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MetallicBThe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:09
MetallicB  sun-j2sdk1.5.0: Depends: java2-common but it is not installable07:09
MetallicBE: Broken packages07:09
GattonLinux self extracting file is what i used07:09
anethemasome people dont like it because its not a .deb07:09
anethemabut this is a VERY easy way to install the JRE07:09
anethemahttp://ubuntuguide.org/#jre07:09
allynjava has an installer but you have to change the file permissions so that the owner can execute it07:09
Gattonanethema, I guess it's what you're used to. I manually downloaded a .deb today and was lost as to what to do with it :-)07:10
anethemathat method there works soo easy07:10
anethemaits what i did07:10
Gattonanethema, thanks for the link. I am still on day one and hadn't bookmarked ubuntuguide.org yet07:10
oealol metallic i'm getting same error but for libsvgl tyring to get mplayer to install07:10
oea:(07:10
calamarianyone know how to print out the powerpoint slide thumbnails page in OO?07:11
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dabaSlonhey, Guys.07:12
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dabaSlonI was wondering, perhaps someone can answer this question. Is it possible that all of a sudden, my hard drive, after being formatted, does not want to install anything on itself,07:13
dabaSlonI mean, it is posible, of course...07:13
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dabaSlonbut, whatg would the error messages be, would there be error messages?07:13
allynwhat did you format it with?07:14
oeawhat the heck is libsvgal anyways?07:14
dabaSlonAnd would having Linux on that hard drive attribute to after having rebooted it, it does not want to do anything.07:14
allynsvg is the graphics part i think07:14
dabaSlonI dont remember, likely just format c: or something.07:14
jsgotangcosvg is awesome07:15
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dabaSlonor perhaps something through linux, cause it had linux at that time.07:15
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Rima quick question people, have an application installed via apt - initially asked questions re configuration, tried editting files made a mess.. how do I install the package again so it asks me those initial config questions?07:15
dabaSlonNow, I install windows, it says that it has been installed, I reboot, remove the cd, and it goes back to saying Ubuntu something, enter runlevel.07:15
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allynand you cant install anything on it? is it in the same computer it used to be in/07:15
dabaSlonapt-get remove package.07:16
dabaSlonThen, apt-get install package.07:16
allynsounds like a bios problem to e07:16
Rimadid that, and apt-get install but doesn't ask those initial config questions :(07:16
dabaSlonMaybe, I will be teking a look at it tomorrow, and/or the day after that.07:16
dabaSlonwhat is the program?07:16
allyndaba is it win XP?07:16
Rimatvtime07:16
dabaSlonnope.07:16
GattondabaSlon, maybe your MBR07:16
dabaSlonOk, go to your home folder...07:16
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Rimadelete the ./.tvtime folder?07:17
dabaSlonmaybe, would having an install disk help?07:17
dabaSlonright, is there one?07:17
GattondabaSlon, for those problems years ago I used to use a boot disk and run  fdisk /mbr07:17
allynyes you can restore the windows mbr using a boot disk and typing fdisk /mbr or something similar07:17
allynhehe perfect timing07:17
dabaSlonright, I was thinking of that....07:17
dabaSlonIll read up on it while I am doing it.07:17
Gattonhey we can't both be wrong right? ;-)07:17
allynheh07:18
|QuaD-_how long after something finnishes building (confirmed from ~lamont/buildLogs) until it is in the repos?07:18
TuxicityRima, not sure at all, but maybe "debconf tvtime" ??07:18
dabaSlonlower chance:p07:18
dabaSlonhehe, still waiting for that, |QuaD-_?07:18
|QuaD-_dabaSlon: do you know what i am waiting for?07:18
Rimayeah it is gone07:18
Rimajust wondering if there is a config file somewhere else07:18
allynanyone know wher to find nice gnome themses other than gnome-look?07:18
dabaSlonnot really, I was here when you asked crimsun, though.07:19
Rimai would have thought, if there is no config file it would ask again07:19
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Rimadebconf hmm07:19
dabaSlonart.gnome.org, I think..07:19
dabaSlonRima, removed the file?07:19
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|QuaD-_dabaSlon: that was something else07:19
dabaSlonok, I guess this answers it.07:19
dabaSlon(00:20:11) Rima: yeah it is gone07:19
Rimasame thing07:19
Rimathough, no config questions initially07:19
dabaSlon|QuaD-_: cool, so, you do this on a regular basis then:)07:19
maeis there a good tool out there for converting large amounts of files from FLAC to say ogg or mp3 while retaining the tag data?07:20
|QuaD-_dabaSlon: do what07:20
dabaSlonthe when is this gonna come out thing.07:20
dabaSlonnothing against it...07:20
|QuaD-_dabaSlon: haha07:20
|QuaD-_yeah07:20
TuxicityRima, or "dpkg-reconfigure tvtime" ??07:20
dabaSlonseet,07:20
dabaSlonw07:20
|QuaD-_dabaSlon: it is actually out, and i think it built :)07:20
dabaSlonright...MOTU know the answer.07:20
dabaSlonask at #ubuntu-motu07:21
dabaSlonmaybe, tried that?07:21
|QuaD-_lemme try it07:21
dabaSlonno...07:21
RimaTuxicity: it is asking a few different questions but think I am heading in right direction, cheers for the help and to you dabaSlon07:22
dabaSlonthanks...07:22
dabaSlon:)07:22
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maximausmae: http://freshmeat.net/projects/flac2ogg/07:22
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TuxicityRima, you're welcome07:23
lorenQ: how would i go about installing RHGB?07:23
RimaTuxicity: on a final note, I have a Hauupauge 150MCE card, that work under linux?07:23
Rimaas well as this bt848 card07:24
JairunCalothI like how the NWN linux site sends links you to a file taht you have to be in windows to download....07:24
allynloren what is rhgb , its not under apt?07:24
oealol io fixed my problemn07:25
lorenally: the redhat grub bootloader, someone told me i could use it until usplash was complete07:25
oeaby, of all fixes, getting the debian package of the library and installing it07:25
oeanow mplayer is installing smoothly07:25
dabaSlonoea: sweet07:25
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oeawonder why apt-get thought it was uninstallable07:26
oeaweird07:26
dabaSlonlet us know if it plays07:26
allynsry loren i have no idea on how to install that07:26
lorenallyn: it's alright, thanks ;)07:26
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dabaSlonloren: do you have the rpm?07:26
TuxicityRima, no idea, check on LinuxCompatible.org07:26
lorendaba: uhn not yet, do you think it'd be easily cross platformable?07:27
oealol nope07:27
Gattonoea, can you give me a brief description of what you did? did you install from a different repository?07:27
oeamplayer opens just fine07:27
oeabut it crashes when i try to play07:27
oea:(07:27
dabaSlontoo bad rima let07:27
wbeck85what is the difference between xfce and xfce4? I was thinking about trying out xfce and was looking through synaptic and found both. Which should I use?07:27
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dabaSlonchange the output sound plugin to esound07:27
allynuse xfce407:27
dabaSlonin options.07:27
allyni did ti today also07:27
lorendabaSlon: if i get the RPM, what can i do with it/07:27
Tuxicitydoh, too late :X07:27
wbeck85cool07:27
wbeck85thanks07:27
oeagatton it was telling me libsva1 was uninstallable so i just went and got the debian package07:27
oeaof the same library07:27
oeaand dpkg -i'd it07:28
Gattonoea, cool thanks07:28
wbeck85uh, what is the difference between xfce and xcfe4?07:28
maewhich do you guys think sounds better in the same size, apple mp4 or mp3?07:28
dabaSlonalien package.rpm07:28
dabaSlonthen it becomes a deb07:28
dabaSlonthen you dpkg -i paskage07:28
lorenmp307:28
dabaSlonmaybe...07:28
allynnot sure i dont have xfce only xfce4 so my choice was easy :-)07:28
wbeck85mp4, but they arent as compatable07:28
wbeck85lol07:28
dabaSlonallyn:07:28
oeahey dabaSlon07:28
oeathat worked now it's playing07:28
darkxfce4 is the newest version i believe07:28
oeajust can't decode the sound07:28
wbeck85oh thanks07:28
oeaso must be a codec thing07:28
oeaeasy to fix07:28
darkxfce gives you an older one, not absolutely sure though, as i go with xfce4 :x07:29
dabaSlonyup, I ddi the same here.07:29
oeacan't open/initialize audio device07:29
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dabaSlonTuxicity: I meant cause I had more info...not cause you said that.07:29
dabaSlonthere is a /etc/tvtime that getts left07:29
dabaSlonafter you remove07:29
lorendabaSlon: i downloaded the RHGB rpm, is it as simple as that? (knowing linux i dont think so lol)07:30
oeaLOL07:30
oeaof course cause i had xmms open07:30
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oeayay now it works ;)(07:30
dabaSlonloren: not knowing linux, I gave you the instructions.....:)07:30
Gattonbwahaha sounds like something i would do :-)07:30
lorendabaSlon: haha nice :D ;-D07:30
oeahehe it's playing all my BS:G rips perfectly and they're in a bunch of diff codecs07:30
oeahorray for mplayer07:31
lorenQ: anyone know if you can apt-get w32 codecs? i've been trying to erm do that07:31
dabaSlonhurrAY for you as well.07:31
dabaSlonyes you can07:31
wbeck85yeah07:31
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dabaSlonloren: do you have the universe repository enabled?07:31
oeayou have to add a repository07:31
dabaSlondo you have an amd, THOUGH?07:31
lorendabaSlon: i have all lines reffering to locations uncommented07:31
wbeck85add the merliatt repos07:31
dabaSlondamn caps lock07:31
dabaSlonor marillat, one of them...07:32
wbeck85deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main07:32
wbeck85deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main07:32
wbeck85deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main07:32
oeathen sudo apt-get install w32codecs07:32
dabaSlonyou may not be able to authenticate, though, and there is a fix.07:32
wbeck85paste those three into your sources.list07:32
allyni forgot how do you force apt to ignore dependenies?07:32
lorendabaSlon: hmmh i'll try it07:32
Gattonyes i get a complaint from GPG :-)07:32
dabaSlonuse wbeck85s insttructions,07:33
dabaSlonMe too, I never fixed it either...07:33
dabaSlon:)07:33
loren:)07:33
dabaSlonI dont need it.07:33
Gattonheh :)07:33
wbeck85yeah, i get an error everytime i update with synaptic about the authenitcate thing, but i have ignored it and its never bothered me07:33
oealast time i used linux (been some years now) I don't remember it being this polished/easy to use at ALL07:33
oeait's come a real long way i can see heh07:33
oeaapt-get is genius!!07:33
dabaSlonright, not too bad...07:33
loreni love apt-get, honestly it's why i use ubuntu07:34
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dabaSlonAll the major disttrs have something along those lines.07:34
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allynif its a genius then how can i fix this lol The following packages have unmet dependencies:07:34
allyn  mplayer-k6: Depends: xmms (>= 1.2.10+cvs20050209) but 1.2.10-2ubuntu1 is to be installed07:34
allynE: Broken packages07:34
dabaSlonits a Debian thing...07:34
oeayes, now07:34
lorendabaSlon: i know, but debian was my first lol07:34
GattonInstall these packages without verification?  Yes please :)07:34
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oeai mean, it's to the point where i could install on a cheap machine for family members to email/browse web reliably07:34
lorenok im trying apt-get w320codecs07:34
dabaSlonapt-get update, allyn07:34
oeawithout the 100s of support calls i would get with windows07:34
oeahehe07:34
dabaSlonsudo apt-get update, in fact.07:35
lorenunless you login to su07:35
loren;)07:35
dabaSlonright...07:35
lorenlol07:35
dabaSlonloren...f?07:35
GattonLinux/Burger King...have it your way07:35
lorendabaSlon: f?07:36
dabaSlonAre you a girl:)07:36
oeagosh my router is a POS it can't hold a connetion for nothing07:36
lorenGatton: that'd be scary07:36
lorenah07:36
allynnope afte update still does it :-( maybe becaus i upgraded to breezy despite the warnings07:36
oeaconstant disconnects from IM services and IRC drops off if it isn't active07:36
oea:(07:36
dabaSlonallyn...right...07:36
dabaSlonmaybe07:36
lorendabaSlon: nope, all the girls i meet named lauren are hot though lol07:36
GattondabaSlon, who are you asking? heh07:36
LeeColletonGatton: except that Linux won't clog your computers arteries nearly as fast as Microsoft bloatware07:36
lorendabaSlon: if i was a girl i'd be the most kickass awsome girl ever lol, programmer and all07:36
dabaSlonhaha, well...07:36
dabaSlonIm gay anyhow...07:37
dabaSlonhaha07:37
dabaSlonjj07:37
lorenhahaa :) lol07:37
oeathat's why i switched over recently07:37
lorenlol nice07:37
oeai was getting sick of running anti spyware and anti adware stuff constantly, having to worry about everything07:37
GattonLeeColleton, slowly working my way. In all the years I've played with LInux I have never stayed in it this long. Always found a reason to go back to windows07:37
Gattongetting harder to find reasons07:37
oeaeven with using upmost security, i had a few nefarious programs get in somehow07:37
oeait's ridicoulous07:37
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dabaSlonright, well, did you turn off windows messenger service, though>?07:38
oeayeha of course07:38
dabaSlonoh, ok...07:38
dabaSlonI never had spyuware issues, really...07:38
anethemame either07:38
anethemaEVER07:38
Gattonbah, why did I try to install mplayer. now I am dealing with broken dependency errors heh07:38
lorenX_x windows messing service is evil07:38
oeathe only real intruders i got were from family members using the computer07:38
dabaSlonexcept over the sea(my mom):(07:38
oeainstalling kazaa et cetera07:38
anethemaif you used IE07:38
oeano07:38
oeai used firefox of course07:38
anethemathen you had spyware problems07:38
ZotnixI switched to Linux on Febuary 15th, 200307:38
dabaSlongatton...07:38
Zotnixi only know because of web.archive.org07:38
anethemanot really any other way to get spyware07:38
dabaSlonget xine, it does work, as well.07:38
anethemaif you use FF just run adaware and spybot like once a month07:38
oeawell, anethema  surrepticious installs07:38
lorenoea: i love firefox tb it installed looking weird on my distro :(07:38
oeaif family members use computer07:39
oeai kinda like konquerer better than firefox07:39
oeait's so snappy07:39
oeausing kubuntu :)07:39
anethemaheh07:39
oea<3 kde07:39
dabaSlonI use epiphany mostly.07:39
anethemaboo kde and kubuntu07:39
loreneoa: same lol07:39
anethemahaha07:39
Gattonusing kubuntu also but i like firefox cuz i likes my extensions :)07:39
dabaSlonJust cause it is FSF...07:39
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anethemayeah07:39
oeaKDE is just so snappy07:39
oeaheh07:39
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anethemadoes kubuntu have adblock and TBE07:39
anethemano!07:39
anethemahaha07:39
anethemai havent seen an ad on a page in years07:40
sir-goldkonqueror is fast because kde pre-caches it07:40
anethemagod i love firefox07:40
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lorenoea: it's nice on newer computers where processing doesn't matter as much, gnome's alright but i think they need to erm be more "appealing"07:40
dabaSlonI am patient, myself, I hae when someone is like, I cant wait for a fraction of a second to open my program07:40
danielskde/gnome wars are offtopic for this channel07:40
oeahehe <307:40
loren:D07:40
loren>:D07:40
oeafluxbox 4 eva07:40
lorenlol07:40
anethemaeveryone join #kdevsgnome !!07:40
anethemajk :)07:40
dabaSlonwars?07:40
dabaSlondaniels?07:40
sir-golddaniels, it seems like the kde/gnome wars only happen when you are around07:40
dabaSlondid you have an issue we can solve:-P07:41
dabaSlonI did not see any wars, but whatever you say, its your channel.07:41
lorenKDE and Gnome are both good GUIs07:41
dabaSlonJust ppl talking...07:41
spacepopeyeJust installed XFCE via synaptic, how do I run it?07:41
oeaagreed07:41
oeaat least we have a choice07:41
oea:)07:41
Echylolel07:41
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dabaSlondid you try changing your session once you log in?07:41
Echylothe window users have to do it with one GUI07:41
allynpopye do you have a login manager?07:41
Echylogod be with them07:41
dabaSlonspacepopeye: ^^07:41
lorenah it's XFCE i wanted to run, i installed IceWM when Xandros' GUI broke07:41
danielsdabaSlon: i've seen these things start peacefully and end in mud-slinging a bajillion times07:41
dabaSlonOh, Ok, cool.07:42
spacepopeyeuhhh login...07:42
lorendaniels: haha nice :D welcome to linux :P07:42
oeaI was supprised on how easy it is to install ubuntu over a network07:42
dabaSlonright, login, and change the session.07:42
oeawith just the kernal07:42
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spacepopeyecool07:42
oeavery very fast too on a decent connect07:42
loren:)07:42
dabaSlonloren: daniels is a Ubuntu guy07:42
lorenI wish i could try Gentoo :(07:42
lorendabaSlon: i know07:42
GattondabaSlon you are a genius ;)07:42
user1hi all07:42
dabaSlonthanks, guys:)07:42
oeaheard gentoo takes a long while to install07:42
lorendabaSlon: i just say that to everyone lol07:42
oeahehe07:42
dabaSlonhi, user107:42
user1any idea how I can run xvncserver from the begining07:43
Gattonapt-get xine-ui, libdvdcss and all is joy07:43
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lorendabaSlon: like a wakeup call ;) :D07:43
dabaSlonyou mean when you boot up?07:43
user1I Mean to get also gnome manager so I can do login from vnc?07:43
Gattonloren, you could try VidaLinux. It's gentoo based07:43
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lorenGatton: i was going to download that but man oh man i've downloaded so many linuxes07:43
lorenGatton: im still considering it07:43
allyngentoo only took me 4 hours to get through 25% of the install07:43
lorenVLOS07:43
Gattonloren, i generally liked it but dumped it only because the free version doesn't have very many packages...07:43
allynis that too long? lol07:43
Gattonif you don't downloading and building everything once it's installed then you might like it07:43
Gattoni guess i am impatient :)07:44
Echyloallyn, here it compiled kde for 2 days, then I aborted it07:44
Gattonand Gentoo requires patience ;)07:44
oeawhat are kde's default hotkeys for switching desktops?07:44
lorenGatton: yeah? hmmh yeah how was the erm, portage system?07:44
allynoh no i didnt even get to compiling X, im taking just the base :-)07:44
Echylo:-)07:44
Gattonloren, worked pretty darn well for me07:44
dabaSlonuser1: do you have any information on what would be needed?07:44
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metalsandGentoo must be something great07:44
user1no07:44
dabaSlonlike, do you need the vnc server to start on boot?07:44
metalsandThe channel has 1000 users07:45
Gattonand i admit some apps (firefox for instance) *seemed* faster when compiled from source. but not enough of an increase to justify all my time compiling07:45
lorenGatton: man i'm itching to try that portage system lol, portage + suse + ubuntu stability would totally rock07:45
dabaSlonor something?07:45
metalsandI'm not saying Ubuntu isn't great07:45
Gattonmy personal opinion of course07:45
user1I want to get full remote on my ubunutu07:45
metalsandjust making an observation07:45
dabaSlongentoo is olkder.07:45
dabaSlonU|I think...07:45
lorenmetalsand: it's a good channel i like em both actually07:45
dabaSlonhm...not sure, user1, anyone else know by some chance?07:45
oeanobody planning on switching to sarge stable?07:45
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Gattonloren, it has a graphical front end to portage but i found it easier to just use the command. kinda like apt-get as opposed to using kynaptic or synaptic :)07:45
Echylometalsand, do you say that gentoo is great cause It has 1000 users, for me that means their users just have more problems :)07:46
dabaSlonEchylo: nice observation there.07:46
Tuxicitymetalsand, in it's kind (source-based) it's great07:46
metalsandEchylo: Ubuntu is much more active (with problems), while Gentoo isn't nearly as active with 2x the users07:46
lorenGatton: yeah i know what you mean, the front ends are nice to have for most people i like using both lol, i usually swap back and forth07:46
metalsandThe idlers just show support and respect for the Distro.07:47
metalsandThe activeness shows issues :P07:47
Gattonthe main thing i don't like about kynaptic is it isn't chatty. it doesn't seem to want to tell me what happened when it won't install stuff07:47
Echylo:)07:47
lorenanyone have the info on their plans for Gnome307:47
lorenGnome can punch back but they have to deffinatly do some GUI work07:47
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lorenafter all it IS a GUI :D07:47
transgressGatton: run it in a terminal window... although i did just install synaptic since it doesn't rely on gnome heh07:48
dabaSlonyour opinion only, IMHO07:48
Gattonloren, that's desktop environment buddy ;)07:48
metalsandI really don't like Gnome's panels07:48
loren;) true07:48
transgressalthough i do use apt-get more than either07:48
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allynoh wow i forgot about being able to force a version of a package using synaptic, fixed my mplayer woes07:48
Gattontransgress, that's what i've been doing. am finding i just prefer apt-get as opposed to synaptic unless i don't know the name of the package07:48
dabaSlonThere are ppl that like gnome more, for me, KDE resembles windows too much...07:48
lorenMetalsand: me neither that's why customizing the panel would be nice07:48
Gattonunless you guys can tell me an easy way to install something from apt-get when you don't know the exact name?07:48
Echylogtg07:48
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dabaSlonwhyile default Ubuntu gnokme looks somewhat like OSX07:48
lorendabaSlon: yeah? hmmh, i guess that's both good and bad07:48
metalsandloren: It's totally customizable07:48
lorenmetalsand: like you can make all 3 menus into one?07:49
anTiXapt-cache search07:49
dabaSlonapt-cache search07:49
dabaSlonexactly07:49
transgressi keep hearing about default gnome looking like OSX... how in god's name do you get that?  it has no docker, it title bar is connected to the apps... and oh it's nothing like osx07:49
metalsandMine's about 1/3 the width of the screen, contains the gnome foot: Applications, places, system... A firefox link, a wireless network icon and a power icon for my laptop07:49
metalsandAll in one panel07:49
Gattonexcellent! thanks07:49
Echylomy takes 3 panels07:49
metalsandI'm trying to get away from the panel completely.07:49
dabaSlonwell, to me only at a first look it looks alike07:49
Echylohttp://users.skynet.be/sb152568/desk.png07:50
dabaSlonbecause, it has the top, and bottom panel.07:50
lorentransgress: rofl07:50
dabaSlonthat is the only similarity, but at first look, if you saw a dock taht is not autohiding.07:50
anethemai love the panel07:50
anethemaso much07:50
anethemaahha07:50
dabaSlonit looks similar.07:50
anethemaall the quicklaunch type stuff07:50
anethemaand notificaiton area07:50
dabaSlontransgress, get it?07:50
anethemamm07:50
metalsandI don't use the whole bottom bar07:50
GattonEchylo what's that? That didn't come with my kubuntu iso <vbg> ;)07:50
loreni bet the Acqua theme looks great on gnome07:50
lorenit's perfect07:50
metalsandI navigate only using Alt + Tab07:50
ermanoxgnome is more like OS 907:50
metalsandand don't use different "desktops"07:51
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Echylolel Gatton :D07:51
lorenermanox: lets hope Gnome3 is like OS X then eh?07:51
anethemametalsand, you are REALLY missing out07:51
dabaSlonIlike the term owrkspace.07:51
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metalsandanethema: Why?07:51
dabaSlonmetalsand: yeah, I use it too.07:51
Gattonloren bah. Acqua theme. I just punch the KVM switch and have the real thing ;)07:51
dabaSlonmetalsand: did ot use it at first..though.07:51
metalsandanethema: What's the advantage for all that clutter?07:51
anethemathey give you 4x the desktop realestate for free, and you dont see the advantage?07:51
anethemathe point is LESS clutter07:51
ermanoxloren: lol yes lets07:51
anethemaahha07:51
dabaSlonexactly, metalsand07:51
dabaSlonless clutter.07:51
lorenGatton: i hate you rofl, i dont own any macs unfortunatly so i can't mess with em, thats why i picked up linux, windows got boring07:52
metalsandDepends on the user, I guess07:52
dabaSlonmore desktops07:52
dabaSlonright.07:52
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metalsandWhen I can go through everything with alt + tab, I don't want to be looking at a whole nother panel07:52
Brunellusanyone running xfce4 on hoary?07:52
metalsandCompeltely unnecessary07:52
anethemayou guys are like the ones who are like 'ahh i dont see the advantages to firefox/tabbed browsing'07:52
anethemahaha07:52
|QuaD-_ermanox: gnome is more like os9? you can compare a window manager to an os07:52
metalsandI LOVE tabbed browsing07:52
loren:)07:52
transgressyou know... one of the major OSX things is the separate toolbar... gnome doesn't even do that... with skinning and gdesklets you can have a mostly gnome feel... but still no toolbar...07:52
Gattonloren agreed. I could certainly have saved the $800 for the emac. Guess Steve Jobs is just too darn persuasive07:52
anethemawell metalsand i keep all my IMing and chatting in desktop 107:52
lorenQuad: ROFL hahaha nice07:52
anethemai keep browsing and related on #107:53
anethemaer07:53
|QuaD-_loren: i am right, right?07:53
anethema#207:53
dabaSlonwell, it is a personal preference issue, not really something I can discuss.07:53
anethemai keep all system shit and terms on desktop 407:53
Brunellusany xfce users?07:53
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lorenQuad: deffinatly07:53
metalsandanethema: If you're running 10 programs I can see a use07:53
dabaSlonBrunellus: NOT ME,07:53
metalsandBut i'm never really running moer than 407:53
Brunelluswhy is it that grip runs fine in gnome and flux, but not xfce?07:53
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allyni started xfce tocday07:53
dabaSlondamn caps lock07:53
|QuaD-_loren: eh, some people will never learn07:53
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ermanoxlQuad : yes because os9 was little more the a windowsmanager07:53
transgressi keep my chats on desktop 1, browsing on 2, and random other shit on 3 if 1 or 2 get full07:53
anethemaive always got terminals open metalsand...always using gaim, always using skype, always webbrowsing07:53
GattonBut if I switch to the other desktops I'll miss this stimulating conversation07:53
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IIIEarsShould this command work? >>> apt-get install ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386//w32codecs_20050216-0.0_i386.deb07:53
metalsandAt most.... 2 terms, a media player, gaim and firefox07:53
dabaSlontransgress: when I first saw OSX, at school, and when I saw ubuntu, I thought it was similatr.07:54
anethematransgress, exactly07:54
|QuaD-_tritium: are you an MOTU? i have a couple questions about the build process07:54
lorenGatton: yeah 800 is nice to save lol, as for being persuasive, i'll start my own BSD distro and it'll have the aqua theme as default and look like a mac by default lol, i'll prolly be sued but you have to admit it'd be big eh? oh and installable on PPC rofl07:54
metalsandI can navigate to any window in no more than 2 seconds.07:54
anethemametalsand, and all those programs you want on one desktop? why07:54
|QuaD-_ermanox: it is an os, not a window manager07:54
transgressdabaSlon: that's because you don't see well...07:54
anethemawell i can switch desktops in 1/4 second07:54
anethemaheh07:54
Gattonloren, just send me the link to the ftp server when you finish eh? ;)07:54
metalsandMost of the time it's a 1/10 of a second07:54
metalsandBecause I'm running term and IRC07:54
dabaSlontransgress: do you know the loading little thing in firefox, ubuntu, and OSX that is similar?07:54
tritium|QuaD-_, almost (hopefully approved today).  What's up?07:54
IIIEarsI don't see the repository added in synaptic i tried (shrug)07:54
lorenQuaD: i didn't even think about that being possible until you mentioned it lol, i'm still in the mind set that they are one, where as in reality every Distribution has X.org07:54
transgressyeah using the mouse scroll wheel to switch desktops rocks... makes it so easy07:54
dabaSlontransgress: no, it is cause I saw it that way,..07:54
anethemametalsand, sounds like you havent really tryed it07:54
lorenGatton: haha :) i will lol07:54
anethemamany windows converts may not get it at first07:55
metalsandand if you want to go from Desktop 1 to 4, it isn't 1/8 of a second ;)07:55
GattonYes! Bouncing icon to indicate application launch! don't you see how similar they are? ;)07:55
anethemano its 2/8ths07:55
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lorenGatton: then i'll sell the company to some foreign company and they'll kill the Apple07:55
transgressthe little loading thing?07:55
BrunellusI got multiple desktops *immediatly*07:55
anethemaleft arrow key BAMBAM07:55
|QuaD-_tritium: if i look through the buildlogs on ~lamont i notice that something built successfully, but the debs were never created in the repo, why?07:55
Gattonloren nooooooooooooo :)07:55
anethemaor right07:55
dabaSlonright, the little sun like thing...07:55
dabaSlonthe bars...07:55
IIIEarsHow do i use fileroller to install a package?07:55
dabaSloncircle with bard.07:55
dabaSlons07:55
anethemametalsand, one day you will give it a real shot, and wonder wtf you did without it07:55
dabaSlonwhich package illears?07:55
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metalsandPerhaps I'll grow into it07:55
IIIEarsw32codecs07:55
anethemathink of a school binder07:55
metalsandBUt my personality doesn't apprciate it at all right now07:55
dabaSlonare you using AMD?07:56
ermanoxlQuad: yes but not that much more and we were placing  this OS X/gnome talk in the context of feel and look07:56
anethemawith 5 classes07:56
metalsandanethema: I'm not organizing 500 papers ;)07:56
anethemado you just open the next page and write for each class, or do you organize by class07:56
|QuaD-_ermanox: lol07:56
metalsandLike I said, at most I run 6 applications07:56
metalsandBad metaphor07:56
anethemano, but keep your browsing seperate from your IMs07:56
|QuaD-_ermanox: why not compare performance in that too07:56
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anethemaand your terminals and system tools seperate07:56
dabaSlonIIIEars: AMD?07:56
tritiumIIIEars, there is a w32codecs .deb available07:56
anethemaand you will find you get MUCH faster at stuff07:56
dabaSlonright.07:57
loreni hope so07:57
tritium|QuaD-_, I haven't observed that07:57
metalsandanethema: Just seems like an annoyance ;)07:57
anethemaheh07:57
IIIEarsyes there is. it is really large 14mbs - lol07:57
metalsandMaybe in a month I'll give it a try.07:57
anethemaah well just something to get used to, like tabbed browsing07:57
anethemakeeping stuff organized is always better in the end07:57
metalsandI instantly loved tabbed browsing07:57
dabaSlonoh, so you have a slow connection, or something?07:57
|QuaD-_tritium: i was just looking at beagle: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/b/beagle/0.0.9-0ubuntu4/beagle_0.0.9-0ubuntu4_20050510-0008-i386-successful   but when i browse http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/beagle/ there is nothign07:57
BrunellusI dug tabbed browsing back when I tried it with Opera 207:57
metalsandalt + Tab is tabbed browsing to me, though.07:58
anethemaheh07:58
anethemayeah07:58
BrunellusI don't understand why everybody was making such a fuss about tabbed browsing when opera had it for ages07:58
tritium|QuaD-_, that's a breezy package07:58
metalsandctrl + tab is literally tabbed browsding in Firefox07:58
IIIEarsI have it in fileroller. what is the next step?07:58
anethemaif you wanna go thru 6 apps to get the one you want07:58
|QuaD-_right07:58
allynim so used to the internet explore way of haveing 6 windows open07:58
|QuaD-_tritium: right07:58
dabaSlonwhat is the name of the file, IIIEars?07:58
anethematabbed browsing with TBE is amazing07:58
Brunellusallyn:  six windows of just IE?  yuck!07:58
ermanoxlQuad ?????07:58
anethemadefault firefox tabbed browsing is better than IE but it annoys the shit out of me07:58
BrunellusI hate having my desktop littered like that...07:58
IIIEarsw32codecs_20050216-0.0_i386.deb07:58
dabaSlontritium: he has breezy07:58
Gattonanethema, how come?07:58
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|QuaD-_ermanox: yes?07:59
dabaSlonwell, dont fileroll it.07:59
allynheh now its 6 of firefox until i can get used to tabbed browsing07:59
dabaSlondpkg -i is it guys?07:59
anethemaGatton, many reasons07:59
dabaSlonfor isnatlling a deb?07:59
anethemafor example...if you have a few websites open, and are in a middle tab07:59
tritiumdabaSlon, yes, dpkg -i <package.deb>07:59
anethemathen close the current tab07:59
GattonI prefer Safari's slimmer tabs but overall i like firefox. maybe there's a way to slim down the tab bar. not sure07:59
dabaSlonthanks.07:59
tritiumdabaSlon, using sudo, of course07:59
anethemait puts you at the end of the tabs07:59
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IIIEarsdebaslon - it is in the marillat repository07:59
dabaSlonIIIEars: read up!07:59
anethemai almost uninstalled firefox when i first saw that07:59
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dabaSlonsudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050216-0.0_i386.deb08:00
anethemahas to be the most retarded tab behavior ever08:00
dabaSlonin that folder.08:00
dabaSlondirectory08:00
dabaSlonanethema: well, it is customzable, does not do that to me anymore.08:00
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anethemaits customizable if you install an extension to do that for you08:00
anethemawhich i did08:01
anethemaTBE08:01
IIIEarsgee - lol - still stuck why it isn't added to synaptic - added the source in settings deb ftp marillat etc - nothing shows up08:01
dabaSlonI dont think so, I think you can do it in there.08:01
anethemaTBE is amazing, keeps everything sorted into colour coded groups08:01
anethemayou cant08:01
anethemaunless it was VERY recently added dabaSlon08:01
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dabaSlonIll prove it now.08:01
allyntbe?08:01
anethemafind me the option dabaSlon08:01
anethemaheh08:01
IIIEarsany tips on using fileroller would be helpful..08:01
dabaSlonanethema: go edit, prefs.08:01
anethemak08:01
dabaSlonadvanced,,,08:01
tritiumIIIEars, why are you not using the w32codecs .deb  package instead?08:02
dabaSlontabbed browsing08:02
anethemak08:02
anethemathere now08:02
IIIEarsi have it. - now what? - grin08:02
dabaSlonIIIEars: you have the file on your comptuer.08:02
dabaSlonnow, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050216-0.0_i386.deb08:02
dabaSlonin that directory in a terminal.08:02
tritiumIIIEars, okay, then why didn't you use apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic?08:02
IIIEarsAh GREAT! Thank You.08:02
anethemayeah thats what im wondering IIIEars08:02
dabaSlontry it, anyhow08:02
dabaSlonuncheck the select new tabs opened from link08:03
IIIEarsdo i need to create a codecs directory?08:03
dabaSlonthat is the option.08:03
anethemadabaSlon, you find that option yet? :D08:03
anethemano no08:03
anethemathats not it at all08:03
anethemawhen you CLOSE the tab you're in08:03
anethemait selects the last tab on your tab bar08:03
IIIEars:)08:03
anethemaopening tabs in the background is a given08:03
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dabaSlonnot here, the tab you closed is the nth tab, and it selects the new nth tab here.08:04
anethemaIIIEars, if that didnt work08:04
anethemasudo apt-get install w32codecs08:04
anethemaheh08:04
dabaSlonIIIEars: not that I know...08:04
mpqhow do I use ipods in linux?08:04
GattonAFK|||Ears I am lost man :(  I just added a new repository to my sources.list and that worked for me *shrug*08:04
GattonAFKmpq, gtkpod!08:04
tritiumanethema, you like hitting the return key a lot, don't you ;)08:04
dabaSlonust do the sudo command, and it will be installed.08:04
GattonAFKit ain't elegant but it works :)08:04
IIIEarsit has some trouble building a dependency tree.08:04
dabaSlonme too, too much.08:04
anethemahaha i know tritium its a bad habit of mine...use it as punctuation08:05
dabaSlonright, cause you need to get it through apt-get.08:05
dabaSlonPaste your sources.list to pastebin.com, pls/08:05
anethemai wish when you booted ubuntu it said FOLLOW ALL DIRECTIONS IN UBUNTUGUIDE.ORG08:06
anethemahaha08:06
GattonAFKbwahaha08:06
anethema99% of the questions i see here are asked right out of the guide08:06
tritiumnot all the guidance on ubuntuguide.org is good advice08:06
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anethemawell, 95 percent of it i08:06
anethemas08:06
GattonAFKanethema i agree. i have been using it for about 12 hrs and just found out about that site from this room :)08:06
anethemalike08:06
IIIEarslol - i have added repositories before. - this just didn't show up. - lol08:06
dabaSlonanethema: I noticed that ppl at this channel, that are ops do not like that guide too much.08:06
anethemasome people dont like the java08:06
anethemabut i coudlnt find a nicer way to install java08:06
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anethemawish there was a dpkg for it08:07
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transgressi think i'd prefer the ubuntu official wiki08:07
tritiumanethema, java-package, dude08:07
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metalsandGrrr08:07
metalsandThe color does effect the Gnome drag/hide bars08:07
transgressthe ubuntu wiki has a very nice way to install java08:07
anethemadidnt really wanna make my own08:07
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dabaSlonmetalsand: I dont suppose your PCMCIA works yet, hey?08:07
metalsanddabaSlon: Nope08:07
metalsandand guess what08:07
tritiumanethema, it's easy as anything08:07
metalsandThe internal one that did work08:07
GattonAFKpastebin.com...cool idea. i'm gonna hang around this room just for the good links08:07
dabaSlonagain, hey?08:07
metalsandIsn't even IN my laptop anymore08:07
metalsandSo08:08
anethemahmmm08:08
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metalsandNo there's no chance at a connection with it08:08
metalsandnow*08:08
anethemawell other than the programs08:08
dabaSlonGattonAFK: yeah, crimsun I think brought taht one...08:08
anethemalike the get sound working properly08:08
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anethemathat fixes almost everything08:08
anethemafor sound08:08
metalsandI seriously don't know what I'm going to do08:08
hasan(can i ask something to someone?)08:08
metalsandI've gone through pretty much all of the most knowledgable people in this channel08:08
dabaSlonjust give it more time, and have a dual boot.08:08
LeeColletonPCMCIA: People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms08:08
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anethemahasan, just ask08:09
dabaSlongood one.08:09
anethemaif someone knows they will help08:09
dabaSlonhasan, are you from ex-Yu?08:09
hasani use ubuntu now but08:09
hasani cant understad ex-YU08:09
hasansorry?08:09
dabaSlonthen you are not, thanks.08:09
hasan:)08:10
dabaSlonright, whats up with yor Ubuntu?08:10
LeeColletonex-Yu, the country formerly known as Yugoslavia08:10
dabaSlonpretty good.08:10
hasani didn't register root user08:10
dabaSlonok, and?08:10
dabaSlonubuntu comes with root locked.08:10
Gattonme neither ;)08:10
anethemawhat do you want to do hasan08:10
dabaSlonI did, though,..08:11
hasanbut it is shown and i dont what its password is08:11
hasan..08:11
tritiumhasan, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:11
dabaSlonyour password.08:11
anethemait doesnt have one08:11
hasanfor example08:11
allynthey really need to fix that08:11
anethemayou cant login as root in default ubuntu hasan08:11
allynconfused me for awhile too08:11
tritiumallyn, it's not in need of fixing08:11
anethemaits not a big allyn08:11
LeeColletonallyn: fix what? your confusion?08:11
anethemabig=bug08:11
allynheh08:11
Gattonit would be nice if the installer just let you know. i was confused also till i read the docs (yea shoulda done that first). still08:11
hasanwhen i try to run a perl file, i cant08:12
dabaSlonhasan, try your password,08:12
hasan(soory for poor english !)08:12
anethemawell most people who are familliar wiht linux and root would realize whats going on..and the rest wouldnt care08:12
dabaSlonadd sudo in front of the command08:12
anethemayes08:12
Gattonhasan run   sudo filename  and then enter your password. it works for most things08:12
anethemaand when it asks for password, just put your password08:12
allyni guess its o=worded correctly, it says your password im just used to other distros ahving a root password :-)08:12
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hasani will try, thanks08:12
LeeColletonhasan: if you want to run as root (DANGEROUS) you can type 'sudo -s'08:12
dabaSlonyup, try now.08:12
hasanok.08:13
Gattonvmware complained when i wanted to run sudo but that's before someone suggested sudo su - so that would probably have worked for me08:13
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tritiumhasan, best to just read the URL I gave you08:13
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dabaSlonthat too..08:13
anethemasudo -s is good :)08:13
hasanok. im root now :)08:13
Gattonanethema, thanks for the reminder :)08:13
Drehello I am new to Ubuntu08:13
dabaSlonlisten mostly to ppl that have the star, if they give you advice.08:13
dabaSlonhi, dre.08:14
anethemathe star?08:14
Gattonhi Dre, same here08:14
LeeColletonhasan: hooray! now you can quickly and easily delete everything on your computer ;-)08:14
tritiumhi Dre08:14
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dabaSlonright beside their nick.08:14
Gattonbwahahha08:14
dabaSlonan op08:14
anethemain what client08:14
ermanoxanyone runnig on a ppc?08:14
anethemaheh08:14
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Drehello dabaSlon, Gatton, tritium08:14
anethemano star in xchat :)08:14
Gattonsudo rm - oh what was it now ;)08:14
dabaSlonermanox: me.08:14
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allynxcaht has stars08:14
hasanok LeeColleton, i will be carefull08:14
LeeColletonhasan: have fun!08:14
anethemanot mine..just green circles08:14
anethemaheh08:14
allynor cicrles08:14
Gattonermanox, not yet but i hope to try that soon on my emac08:14
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hasanthanks :)08:14
anethemai know it means op :P just saying no star08:14
anethemas08:14
anethemahehe08:14
ermanoxdabaSlon: Laptop perhaps?08:15
dabaSlonhasan: also do read the http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:15
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dabaSlonright, a g4 ibook08:15
LeeColletonhasan: and remember, everything worth keeping is worth backing up08:15
LeeColletonEven Jesus Saves08:15
ermanoxUbuntu runs great on older macs08:15
allyni didnt know that until now, stil new to irc, how do you get stars?08:15
dabaSlonok...I agree,.08:15
hasandabaSlon: i'm reading now.08:15
dabaSlonsomeone adds you as an operator that has a start08:15
dabaSlonno t.08:16
Dregive me a min, I need to restart08:16
anethemaallyn, you get opped if someone ops you08:16
dabaSlonor, a bot adds you...08:16
Drebrb08:16
anethemayes08:16
anethemahehe08:16
allynok i see now08:16
Gattonallyn grovel i guess ;)08:16
anethemajust gives you control privs over channel functions08:16
allynhehe08:16
anethemafellate the current ops for your own ops*08:16
anethema*must be a hot chick08:16
dabaSlonermanox: is there a follow up?08:17
tritiumhuh?08:17
Gattonhehe08:17
dabaSlonor a guy, if the op is a chick...08:17
Gattonor not. come on guys this is the 21st century! ;)08:17
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LeeColletonanethema: are you working on fostering inclusivity and community in the channel?08:17
mpqokay, I'm copying my music folder from my windows partition08:17
anethemajust suggesting paths to power ;)08:18
mpqonce it's done I'm going to run gtkpod08:18
dabaSlongood stuff08:18
dabaSlonermanox: anything?08:18
mpqif it works I won't need windows anymore08:18
tritiumanethema, don't insinuate, though08:18
ermanoxdabaSlon: Sorry doing 2 things at once08:18
dabaSloncool08:18
anethemahaha ill try08:19
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dabaSlondres back08:20
Drehello :D08:20
ermanoxdabaSlon: have you been able to dual boot with 10.3 ?08:20
dabaSlonyo!08:20
dabaSlonyes08:20
dabaSlonA harder process...08:20
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dabaSloncreate needed partitions using the OSX cd...08:21
dabaSloninstall OSX, run ubuntu install08:21
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dabaSlonleave a newworld partition on aboutl....08:21
dabaSlonnot sure how much of the first partition08:21
DreI'm new to nix08:21
dabaSlonRight, sweet, youll like it.08:21
GattondabaSlon, silly question...can you resize an HPFS partition after the fact? Or would I be better off just reformatting and reinstalling OSX?08:21
Drealright08:21
Gattonto install Ubuntu along side I mean08:22
dabaSlonthen, you install Linux, and put, the lilo in the first little partition, in fact it does it itself.08:22
dabaSlongatton, not taht I know of...08:22
dabaSlonNot really particularly bound to any alreadty installed system08:22
dabaSlonI backup, and reinstall.08:22
GattonI should consider putting Ubuntu on my G3 imac I don't use these days08:23
dabaSlonanethema: we have a common defect with the enter key...08:23
dabaSlonyou should...08:23
dabaSlonit will run good, as ermanex said.08:23
ermanoxI have tried but fall into yaboot died or OSX not working with mol08:23
ermanoxdo you still have use control in mol08:23
ermanoxsorry USB08:23
dabaSlonermanox.08:23
tritiumdabaSlon, it's contagious, it would seem08:23
dabaSlontelling you, leave a small partition on the begginingof the hard drive for lilo to place itself.08:24
dabaSlonA newworld boot partition08:24
dabaSlontritium: no, I do it anyhow, without regards to anethema...08:24
ermanoxI have ubuntu on a g3 500 ibook now08:24
GattondabaSlon, it's just for lilo? so it could be tiny i imagine?08:24
dabaSlonermanox: try what I said, it should work, and there are instructions on the WIKI, I think.08:24
ermanoxThanks dabaSlon08:25
dabaSlonRight, like I thik it is 10 MB, or something on mine.08:25
Gattonok cool08:25
tritiumgood night, guys08:25
Gattonnight tritium08:25
allyngood morning here :-)08:25
dabaSlonI dont remember, and would probably have trouble isntalling it now, since I did it 2 months ago, and only teice:)08:25
anethemahha08:25
dabaSlonnight, tritiu08:25
anethemayou guys bugging me about my enter key pressing :P08:25
dabaSlonm08:25
tritiumnight, Gatton, dabaSlon08:26
Gattonanethema08:26
Gattonno big deal08:26
Gattondoesn't bother me ;)08:26
Gattonnow if all 465 people did it ;)08:26
anethemayou leavin tritium ? ttyl08:26
tritiumanethema, yep, got to get some sleep.  talk to you later on08:26
anethemahaha yes that would make things very hard to read08:26
anethemayep im always here..helping or beeing helped08:26
anethemahaha08:26
Gattonscrollin' scrollin' scrollin'08:26
metalsandWhen I mount Hda1 (windows) under windows/media08:27
dabaSlonb**** Ill have them p*** lips swollen....as Method Man would say.08:27
metalsandWhat dir will it be listed as in term?08:27
anethemawindows/media08:27
anethemaheheh08:27
dabaSlonrollin, \rollin, rollin...08:27
anethema/media/windows?08:27
metalsandSaying no such dir08:27
Drewhere do I find my folders?08:27
anethemauhh how are you mounting it ?08:27
dabaSloncreate the dir, then mount08:27
anethemajust mount it in the console metalsand08:27
mpqis there a way to change permissions on all the files in a directory at once?08:27
dabaSlonDre: which folders?08:27
GattonDre, which folders you looking for?08:28
Dremy windows folders08:28
dabaSlondo you have a windows partition?08:28
metalsandI have it auto mount at boot08:28
mpqI copied my itunes folder from my windows partition and now all the files are read-only08:28
Dreyes I do08:28
metalsandI want it for my mp3 collection08:28
dabaSlonchange the,08:28
dabaSlonmpq: change the permission08:28
mpqI tried that08:28
anethemametalsand, mount it yourself08:28
anethemaand put it in your fstab08:28
metalsandwhat's the apt-get command for the gsomething plugin for ryhmbox?08:28
mpqit only changed the top file08:28
dabaSlonDre: which oartition is it, first, second...08:28
mpqI have like a thousand files08:28
anethemametalsand, apt search it08:28
anethemaheh08:28
mpqwith one mp3 in each folder08:29
dabaSlonwhat command tdid you use?08:29
mpqit would take way too long to change them all08:29
dabaSlondo sudo chmod -R folder name,08:29
Gattoncan't you change the perms on a whole folder at once?08:29
Gattonahh cool that's it08:29
allynmpq change the permissions in fstab08:29
mpqfstab?08:29
dabaSlonsudo chmod -R +x folder name08:29
Drefirst08:29
anethemayes -R08:29
anethemaoh08:29
anethemadabaSlon, got it08:29
anethemahehe08:29
dabaSlonok, you will need to moutn the hard disk08:29
mpqwhat is chmod?08:30
Drehow do I do that?08:30
dabaSlonDre: sudo mkdir /media/windows or replace windows with anything...08:30
dabaSlonnot cdrom, or something liek that.08:30
dabaSlonthat already exists in the /media folder08:30
Gattonbrb08:30
Drein my shell?08:30
dabaSlonin a terminal, yues.08:30
mpqhow do I change the permissions on a big group of files?08:31
dabaSlon sudo chmod -R +x folder name08:31
Dredone08:31
dabaSlonDre: good, now you mount the hard drive...follows...08:31
dabaSlonDre: all right, do you know if it is ntfs?08:31
Dresudo chmod -R +x folder name <-- is this for me?08:31
allynmpq are the files al on their own partition?08:31
dabaSlonnope08:31
dabaSlonfor mpq08:31
Dreyes it is ntfs08:32
dabaSlonok, here is a command you will use..08:32
anethemamight need -t ntfs, but doubtful08:32
dabaSlonif anethema does not beat me to it.08:32
anethemahaha08:32
Drelol08:32
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mpqit didn't work08:32
Dreokie what do I type08:32
dabaSlonsudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=022208:32
mpqchmod didn't work08:32
dabaSlonassuming you made a /media/windows08:32
anethemait usually detects ntfs fine, but sometimes not08:32
Dremount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist08:33
mpqall the mp3s are still read-only08:33
dabaSlonmpq: what is the folder name?08:33
mpqitunes08:33
dabaSlonDre: ok, try, sudo mount /dev/sa1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=022208:33
mpqI copied the itunes folder to linux from windows08:33
anethema+x is executable08:33
dabaSlonsudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=022208:33
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anethemato make them not read only do -r08:33
lorendabaSlon: i love that command lol it's saved me a lot :)08:33
dabaSlonok, well, are you using gnome?08:33
dabaSlonloren: which one, mount?08:34
mpqI did chmod -R08:34
mpqit didn't change the files08:34
dabaSlonmpq: are you using gnome?08:34
Dremount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist08:34
mpqyes08:34
Razor-Xmpq: chmod 77708:34
anethemano no08:34
anethema-R is for recursive08:34
anethemado -r and -R08:34
Razor-Xwhat drive is this?08:34
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dabaSlonDre: ok, go, ls /dev , and paste that output to http://pastebin.com , please.08:34
anethemachmod -r -R <foldername>08:35
dabaSlonheeh, I add a please cause crimsundoes.08:35
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webmindanethema, huh? chmod doesn't have a -r ?08:35
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dabaSlonmpq: find and open a folder in the gnome.08:35
anethemadoes it not?08:35
anethemathen use 66608:35
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dabaSlonThen, select all files.08:35
cyphasehey everybody08:35
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dabaSlonthen, right, click and properties, and change the permission.08:35
mpqWTF?08:35
mpqnow the folder is gone08:35
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anethemahhaa08:35
anethemadoh08:36
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dabaSlondid you rm -r?08:36
dabaSloncyphase: welcome:)08:36
anethemachmod 666 -r folder08:36
mpqno08:36
mpqI did chmod08:36
anethemamight need sudo08:36
mpqand now the folder's gone08:36
cyphase;)08:36
Dredone08:36
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dabaSlonDre: once you have pasted, please give us the URL08:36
mpqI did sudo every time08:36
dabaSlonok, get it again.08:36
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dabaSlonand change the perms through gnome.08:36
dabaSlonnautilus08:36
DredabaSlon,  http://pastebin.com/28200008:37
dabaSlonsudo mount /dev/hdc1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=022208:37
dabaSlonYou ahve 3 hard drives?08:37
Razor-Xyet, no hda....08:37
Razor-Xodd....08:37
anethemaoops that removes read permissions, not sets them08:37
anethemaahah08:37
anethemaim an idiot08:37
anethema+408:37
anethema+r08:38
dabaSlonoh, yrah08:38
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anethemathats better08:38
anethemachmod +r +R folder08:38
Dreno i have 2 hdd08:38
anethemathat will work08:38
dabaSlonmpq: tried through gnome?08:38
Drewait08:38
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dabaSloncool, did that work?08:38
DreI have 1 hdd08:38
mpqthe folder is gone08:38
dabaSlonmpq: get the folder again?08:38
anethemait cant be08:38
Drebut partitioned it to 208:38
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anethemait cant be gone08:39
mpqwhen I changed permissions it only changed the first folder08:39
dabaSlonDre: command worked?08:39
anethemado a sudo ls -la08:39
mpqit didn't change any of the files inside the folders08:39
anethemampq,08:39
anethemait will be there08:39
Razor-XDre: by chance, are you using Partition Magic?08:39
dabaSlonhaha08:39
dabaSlonright, we made root be able to do everything08:39
Drenope08:39
mpqthe icon has that x on it now08:39
mpqand I can't click on it08:39
mpqwhen I click on it it disappears08:39
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anethemago in the console08:40
anethemaforget the gui08:40
dabaSlonmpq: remove the folder, readd it, and use the gui, my advice08:40
anethemaif you have a backup of the folder then do that sure08:40
dabaSlonDre: mounted?08:40
Razor-Xmpq: type sudo chmod 777 -R /path/to/folder08:40
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anethemanot 708:40
anethema608:40
anethema66608:41
Dreyes08:41
dabaSlonthen he canbt execute08:41
Dredo I do a ls now?08:41
dabaSloncool08:41
anethemawhy does he want to execute mp3s08:41
dabaSlondo a ls /media/windows08:41
anethemaarent they mp3s?08:41
dabaSlonyes, they play08:41
dabaSlonyou have to execute08:41
dabaSlonin an appropriate program08:41
Razor-Xanethema: why are you against 777?08:41
mpqoh, it's working now08:41
anethemano you dont dabaSlon08:41
mpqbut gtkpod doesn't work right08:41
dabaSlonmpq: excellent08:41
Dreahh I see it now08:41
dabaSlon:)08:41
anethemadont need a text file executable to open  it08:41
dabaSlonimm totally ripping off crimsun tonight08:42
dabaSlonDre: excellent08:42
Drebut now, how do I go into my other partition08:42
dabaSlonwhich onme?08:42
mpqI want it to use the itunes db but it won't08:42
Dresudo mount /dev/hdc2 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=022208:42
anethemakeep in mind dabaSlon you dont need +x to play mp3s08:42
anethemaheheh08:42
Dredo I do that?08:42
dabaSlonnope08:42
dabaSlonwhat is the othe partition, the linux?08:42
mpqit tries to access the ipod but the ipod has no files on it08:42
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Dreokie i did 3 partitions08:43
dabaSlonwhy would I keep it in ind?08:43
Dre2 for windows08:43
dabaSlonmymo3 come +x08:43
Dre1 for nix08:43
Razor-Xanethema: you don't?08:43
anethemahow did you mount the ipod08:43
dabaSlonok, second also windows?08:43
anethemano you dont.08:43
Dreyes08:43
Drelast one is nix08:43
dabaSlonsudo mkdir /media/windows2 or something more createive08:43
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abbot45if i end a command with ' instead of " and it goes down to just a > at the begining of each line, how do i get back?08:43
anethemayou never need a file to be executable to read it08:43
dabaSlonthen to the otehr thing you said yes08:43
anethemaok mpq08:43
mpqwhat?08:44
metalsandSleepy time for me08:44
anethemai bet it got mounted as fat instead of vfat or something08:44
metalsandNight guys08:44
dabaSlonmetalsand: good night08:44
mpqthat's not the problem08:44
anethemaprobly cant find the database file08:44
metalsandI'm sure I'll see you all tommarow trying to get my card to work.08:44
mpqthere's no files on it08:44
metalsand:)08:44
dabaSlon:)08:44
Gattoncya metalsand08:44
Razor-Xanethema: shouldn't FAT be the same as VFAT?08:44
anethemacya metalsand08:44
mpqit's not a problem of a screwed up mount08:44
anethemagood luck again08:44
anethemaRazor-X, no08:44
mpqit just doesn't have files on it08:44
Razor-Xanethema: what's the difference?08:44
anethemaone supports long filenames, one doesnt08:44
Razor-Xohhh, ok08:44
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dabaSlonanethema: oh, ok, youre right08:45
Dregosh this will take a while for me to learn08:45
anethemaabout what? (not like im suprised haw haw ;) )08:45
dabaSlonwell, you can automount them now.08:45
anethemawell08:46
anethemaif it had files on it in windows..but not now08:46
anethemasomething obviosuly screwed up08:46
anethemahehe08:46
dabaSlonDre: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs08:46
dabaSlonreplace teh a's wiuth the c's08:46
dabaSlonand do it for both08:46
anethemaman i love ubuntuguide08:46
anethemaive got sooo many things to submit to that guy08:46
dabaSlonjiyuu0 is his nick here08:47
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mpqargh08:47
mpqgtkpod doesn't work right08:47
Drehow do I remove the folder?08:47
dabaSlonmpq: I dont use it.08:47
Drerm -rf <folder>?08:47
Razor-Xthey need a Kubuntu guide, or at least, more KDE specifiec stuff08:47
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dabaSlonumount /media/windows08:47
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cyphasehmm..08:47
cyphaseFirefox 1.0.4 is almost out, and Ubuntu is still on 1.0.208:48
Dreoh crap08:48
Dresu root <-- to log in as root yes?08:48
anethemasudo -s08:48
anethemato be root08:48
Burgundaviacyphase, the security stuff was backported to 1.0.208:48
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dabaSlonDre: also do read the http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:49
dabaSlonwhat did you screw up?08:49
cyphaseBurgundavia, oh, i c08:49
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dabaSlonDre: wht did you screw up?08:50
Dreroot pass08:51
Dreholy shit08:51
dabaSlonwhat did you do, exactly?08:52
anethemaroot pass?08:52
Drei tried to unmount08:52
Drebut it said I got to be root08:52
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dabaSlonsudo umount08:52
Dreso i typed su root08:52
dabaSlonsorry about that.08:52
Dreasked my password and it said Sorry08:52
Drelol08:52
anethemaheh08:52
anethemanot su root08:52
dabaSlonk, that is fine08:52
anethemasudo -s08:52
anethemaeasier08:53
anethemahehe08:53
dabaSlondont even do it08:53
anethemayeah, i wouldnt08:53
anethemahehe08:53
anethemacan also do sudo su08:53
anethemadoes the same thign08:53
anethemabut yeah, dabaSlon is right, dont do either08:53
anethemahaha08:53
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Dreokie08:53
dabaSlonDre: to unmount08:54
Dreso how do I remove the folders08:54
anethemajust use sudo08:54
dabaSlonsudo umount folder name, asolute path08:54
IIIEarslol - now i AM really confused - wide grin08:54
Dreokie dokie08:54
anethemaor sudo umount device08:54
anethemaworks08:54
anethema/dev/hda1 or whatever it happens to be08:54
dabaSlonits a c in this case.08:55
anethemasure08:55
anethemahehe08:55
anethemayou also dont have to do an absolute path if you are in the subdir08:55
Dreokie if I wanted to reinstall Ubuntu and I got grub as a bootloader08:55
anethemaex: media08:55
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anethemayes grub is default08:55
Drehow do I uninstall this08:55
anethemagrub is good08:55
anethemabetter than lilo by far08:56
IIIEarsgrub is much better than lilo08:56
Drecause I wanna reinstall this again08:56
DreI forgot my root pass08:56
Drelol08:56
dabaSlondifferent, lets use different08:56
dabaSlonthere is no root pass.08:56
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Dreoh none?08:56
anethemadifferent and...crappier08:56
dabaSlonyour own pass will work with sudo08:56
anethemai like crappier08:56
Dreahh I see08:56
anethemalilo is better in no way08:56
anethemahehe08:56
IIIEarsnah just the user pass and sudo\08:56
anethemastupid lilo..how many times do you edit your lilo config..reboot08:57
Dredo ubunthu have a book out?08:57
Dreso I could read up08:57
anethemathen say DOH forgot to run lilo again08:57
anethemahaha08:57
dabaSlonno08:57
Dreargh08:57
dabaSlonwiki.ubuntulinux.org08:57
IIIEarsanathema - enjoys the pain and suffering of OSes like BSD from scratch - lol08:57
anethemahehe08:57
anethemacute how you typed my name wiht an A08:57
anethemamust know the word08:57
Dreubuntu can be used as a ns server and stuff?08:58
Drewebserver08:58
anethemacan be used as anything08:58
anethemaheh08:58
anethemaits linux08:58
dabaSlonyou use that sometimes, though08:58
Dreokie dokie08:58
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anethemado i ?08:58
anethemaoh08:58
anethemaheh08:58
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dabaSlonyup08:58
Drehow do I make myself a ns nameserver08:58
dabaSlonanathema08:58
IIIEarsIf you can imagine it someone has written code for linux to do it.08:58
Gattonhmmmmm08:59
dabaSlonlook up the wiki, dre, I do not know.08:59
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anethemahm08:59
anethemanickserv doesnt let me use anathema08:59
anethemaso i must not use it for long08:59
anethemaahah08:59
Gattonit's actually harder to type anethema b/c i feel like i'm misspelling everytime heh08:59
anethemajust type an then press tab :)08:59
Gattonanethema: ahhhh09:00
Gattondidn't know that09:00
anethemathe joys of nick completion09:00
Gattonall my years in irc :)09:00
IIIEarspoking around for software to enable a multi button mouse. I saw code for a 2 mouse driver in linux. - the real question as always is WHY???? - lol09:00
anethemaand the akward moments that ensue09:00
anethemahaha09:00
Gattoncuz one guy in Licthtenstein needed that feature so he hacked it up :)09:00
Gattonso to speak :)09:01
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BurgundaviaIIIEars, multiheaded systems?09:01
joenteI can't use smbmount with ubuntu? (samba client is installed)09:02
Gattonjoente, is smbfs installed?09:02
Gattoni had that problem earlier. i assumed if i had one i had the other but wasn't the case09:02
joenteI installed it with apt-get09:02
IIIEarsit was linked to a new keyboardless typing system that uses mouse "chords" like a court reporter. supposed to be faster.09:02
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IIIEarsinteresting thought for a first person shooter maybe/09:03
joentewith the GUI it works but the command mount -t smbfs.. failed09:03
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joenteerror: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on ....09:04
sir-goldIIIEars 2 mice with 1 pointer or 2?09:04
IIIEars1 or two09:05
IIIEarsevdev?09:05
Gattonjoente, that's the same problem i had and turned out to be smbfs for me so not sure09:05
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sir-gold2 mice and 1 pointer makes sense with a laptop, i have a ps2 touchpad and a usb mouse09:05
joentehow can i see if it's installed correctly?09:05
sir-goldfortunatly ubuntu figured it out right away and both work09:06
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Drako60that was an unpleasent reboot after kernel upgrade09:06
IIIEarsvery nice09:06
_23meganyone playing cube?09:07
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LeeColletonIIIEars: a chording keyboard was used in the first public demo of an interactive computer system, ca. 195009:08
LeeColletonnot exactly "new"09:08
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joenteI read that you must have /sbin/mount.smbfs, I don't have that file...09:08
anethemaits super easy to views smb shares in nautilus09:09
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anethemaif you feel you must use the command line09:09
anethematry smbclient09:09
anethemaits a ftpish interface09:10
Gattonjoente, you can do  sudo apt-get install smbfs09:10
Gattonbut yea like anethema says nautilus (or konqueror in my case) can view them easily09:10
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anethemayou should install smbfs anyways09:11
anethemasmb and smbfs09:11
dabaSlon133709:11
Gattoni know i installed it earlier today and just assumed (yea yea i know) that when i got samba i got smbfs but wasn't the case09:11
joenteE: Package smbfs has no installation candidate..09:12
dabaSlonhah, who invented that stupid thing...09:12
SiTtInG_dUcKHey guys i  have a prob i can log in to the ubuntu site with my password and email address fine but when i try to use it to get the cd sent 2  me it tells me that my password is incorrect enven though both email address and password are fine09:12
dabaSlonI guess its not stupid...09:12
Gattonit looks like smbfs is not on the main repository? or maybe it's in universe?09:13
dabaSlonSiTtInG_dUcK: try contacting the Ubuntu team through their web site?09:14
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davekempesmbfs is in universe09:14
davekempecifs is probably what you wants tho09:14
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SiTtInG_dUcKhave looked on site but not found an email address so i try here to solve prob09:16
dabaSlonSiTtInG_dUcK: cool, let me try...09:16
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dabaSlonSiTtInG_dUcK: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/feedback09:17
SiTtInG_dUcKthnx09:18
dabaSlonSiTtInG_dUcK: yup.09:18
dabaSlonjust a little directions..09:18
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Gattonso where are you some of you folks? am i the only one for whom it's extraordinarily late (or early?) :)09:19
dabaSloncanada09:19
thenukeFinland09:19
ivokscroatia09:20
wdhholland..09:20
Gattonunited states to answer my own query09:20
dabaSlonhey ivoks09:20
wdhits about 9 am here :)09:20
dabaSlonsame in croatia09:20
Gattonwdh, lovely place. hope to visit some day09:21
thenuke10@Morning09:21
dabaSlonthat is a non valid email address:-p09:21
thenukeI would also like to see some parts of US09:21
Gattonthenuke: so would i. i haven't visited much of it :)09:21
wdhGatton, the coffee is almost ready :P09:21
thenukemaybe some of those really big cities and then something completely else, south USA maybe09:22
Gattonthenuke: i'm in the south. come on by. you can try to teach me that impossible language you guys speak ;)09:22
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revelaterok, now aterm quit working09:23
revelatercorrectly09:24
revelaterand so did the alpha levels on the menu and tool bars09:24
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dabaSloni lke you r desktop, revelater09:24
thenukeGatton: Very possible to teach some words or simple sentences :)09:24
dabaSlonI have the picture still09:24
revelaterare you sure it was mine?09:25
dabaSlonyup09:25
dabaSlonthe fluxbox09:25
dabaSlonblueish blk09:25
revelaterohhh, i thought i was in #fluxbox... oops09:25
dabaSlonwith the monitors on the right09:25
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revelaternope, mine are on the left09:25
Gattonthenuke: always enjoyed learning a few words here and there in other languages. is it more correct to say suomi?09:26
thenukeGatton: Got that right09:26
Gattoncool09:26
dabaSlonrevelater: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/feedback09:27
dabaSlonhaha09:27
dabaSlonrevelater: http://142.161.156.182/flux_latest.jpg09:27
thenukeGatton: I know one italian girl who learned to speak Suomi pretty good by ircing in finnish channels :D09:27
revelaterthats pretty cool, but it aint mine09:27
dabaSlonwhy is your IRC nick in there?09:28
Gattonthenuke: that sounds like a good way to practice. i think my pronunciation would still suck though :)09:28
dabaSlonoh, that was dazzed09:28
dabaSlonsorry:(09:28
revelaterlol09:28
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threatG'Day09:28
dabaSlonyo.09:29
AstralJavaGatton: If you're trying to pronounce something in Finnish, then don't worry. It's probably one of the toughest in this world. :)09:29
thenukeGatton: Most definately yes :) For that Italian girl pronouncation would not be that hard because they have pretty same kind of pronouncation09:29
GattonAstralJava: that was my impression too ;)09:29
Gattonthenuke: i have to admit though...most of my experience with spoken Finnish was from those Star Trek parodies heh09:29
AstralJavaOh, that's hilarious. :)09:30
thenukeGatton: :D09:30
thenukeGatton: They are SO great :D09:30
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threatStar Trek parodies?09:30
Gattonhehe09:30
thenukethreat: Starwreck09:30
Gattonfire twinklers and light balls09:30
thenukehttp://www.starwreck.com/09:30
threatthenuke, I see09:31
threathmmm on an unrelated topic, does samba support FileSystem (Reiserfs) ACL's?09:31
threats/samba/the samba that ships with Ubuntu :)/09:32
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dabaSlonthreat: and now for something conpletely diff...09:33
threatdabaSlon, heh09:34
threatdabaSlon, I like the boring life of an accountant09:34
ivoksi hate when this happens...09:34
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threatany way09:35
dabaSlonthreat: exolain taht...09:35
threatdabaSlon, "dabaSlon threat: and now for something conpletely diff..." I assume you were referring to Monty Python?09:35
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dabaSlonright...is there the accountant thinf in it too?09:36
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dabaSlonI am a fan, did not watch muchm though09:36
dabaSlonwhat was that ivoks?09:36
dabaSlonpuls, a?09:37
dabaSlonhehe09:37
dabaSlonk, night all...09:37
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alexandrehi09:46
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Echylodamn too quiet around here09:47
Echylono one has problems? :P09:47
Gattonwell09:47
alexandrei have a little problem with rythmbox09:47
Gattonwhen you say problems :)09:47
Echylothey all come09:47
Echylowhat alexandre09:48
alexandrewhen i try to read my music, i got an error: "could not open resource for writing"09:48
alexandreany idea?09:48
Echylohmm09:48
Echylo.ogg, .mp3 ?09:48
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alexandremp309:48
Echylosure that mp3 support is installed?09:49
alexandreyes; i was reading exactly the same file tomorrow09:49
sir-goldalexandre are you using hoary?09:49
alexandreyep09:49
sir-goldthen mp3 playback is installed09:49
cyphasey is it that gnome play's mp3 when you scroll over them, but not ogg's?09:49
alexandreapt-get install gstreamer-mad already done09:50
Echylohmm, is it with one specific file? I guess not09:50
sir-goldi didn't have to install gstreamer to play mp3s09:50
alexandreno, i cant read any music file09:50
alexandreif i try to open a file with totem, i have the same error09:51
anethemagoddamn vlc is buggy09:51
anethemathe hotkeys are soo iffy09:51
anethemasometimes work, sometimes not09:51
anethemabah09:51
sir-goldanethema http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary09:51
Echylo:)09:51
anethemathey are lucky the video is so smooth09:51
anethemai have no sound problems09:51
anethemaheh09:52
Echyloits alexandre sir-gold :P09:52
anethemabut ill look anyways09:52
sir-golderr, yeah alexandre09:52
EchyloI was confusing them too09:52
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sir-goldtoo many people in this channel, i can't be so lazy with the tab completeion09:52
Echylohehe :)09:52
revelaterhey guys, after installing a cursor, how do i get rid of it?09:53
anethemahaha09:53
sir-goldits pretty bad when i have to type 5 or 6 letters for tab complete to work right09:53
lampshadeSo I just followed the fact for installing media codecs, but mplayer still can't play .wmv neither can totem, ideas?  I got nothing  I thought the w32codecs would take care of that09:53
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Echylohehe, just type their whole name, so you practice typing ;)09:53
sir-goldits really bad when i try to tab complete words09:54
revelateryah, but some people got some capitol letters spread out and some wierd characters going on...09:54
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revelatersir-gold: i didn't even know i could do that until just now :p09:54
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sir-goldwhat reall annoys me is names that start with `09:54
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Echylolampshade, I have exactly the same problem, everything except wmv09:54
revelaterYES09:54
Echylolel sir :)09:54
revelaterlel?09:55
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Echylolaughing extremely loud09:55
revelateri see09:55
anethemalampshade,  and Echylo09:55
Echylo:p09:55
revelateranywho, anyone here install a different curser?09:55
anethemauninsyall the totem you have now wiht synaptic09:55
anethemaand install totem-xine09:55
EchyloI did09:55
anethemathen go to the mplayer site...09:55
anethemaand download the codecs09:56
revelaterand compile09:56
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anethemaand put them in the totem codecs dir09:56
revelaterfrom source09:56
Echyloowk09:56
sir-goldrevelater in control panel go to peripherals>mouse>cursor tab09:56
sir-goldselect the theme and remove it09:56
revelatersir-gold: lol, i don't have a control panel09:56
Echylosystem09:56
sir-goldcontrol center09:56
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revelatersir-gold: nope09:56
EchyloI'm on a windows machine(school) so I can't give directions :p09:56
revelatersir-gold: using fluxbox09:56
revelatersir-gold: if there is a program that can handle it i can still fun it09:57
revelaterrun09:57
sir-goldkcontrol09:57
revelateris that a kde tool?09:58
sir-goldhmm, i wonder what its called in gnome09:58
sir-goldyeah09:58
revelateri haven't installed kde...09:58
sir-goldtry it anyway09:58
wdhgnome-control-center iirc09:58
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revelaterjust did :P09:58
sir-goldgcontrol?09:58
wdhsir-gold, gnome-control-center09:59
revelaterok, what would it be under then/09:59
revelater?09:59
revelatertheme?09:59
Echylotry it? :)09:59
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sir-goldi don't see why there has to be 2 completely different versions of every app just because kde and gnome are different09:59
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Burgundaviasir-gold, NotMadeHere TM10:00
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sir-goldrevelater mouse10:00
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revelatersir-gold: i don't think thats it, i think it was theme10:01
alexandreok, i have installed xmms and it now working10:01
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revelatermouse doens't give me any options as to themes10:01
alexandrebut nt rhytmnbox10:01
lampshadeanethema, You don't happen to know where that totem codecs dir is supposed to be do you?10:02
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sir-goldnot themes, pointers10:02
revelateralexandre: try synaptic10:02
sir-goldor cursor10:02
bosewichtrelelater...u need to configuration editor10:02
bosewichtrhythmbox is installed with ubuntu10:02
revelaterthere is neither10:02
bosewichtu need to install the configuration editor10:03
revelaterwell, there is cursers, but it only allows the changing of the size and highlighting thing10:03
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bosewichtu can change the cursor10:03
revelaterbosewicht: configuration editor?10:03
revelaterbosewicht: i just need to make sure i can change it back when i get tired of this style10:04
bosewichtafter u install it go to /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse10:04
bosewichtu can10:04
revelaterbut... what if i am not using gnome?10:04
bosewichtwhat are u using?10:04
revelaterfluxbox10:05
bosewichthmm, u can change the cursor in flux too....i dont remember how tho10:05
bosewichti have used flux in a while10:05
Echyloso much trouble for a thing you just click with :p10:05
bosewichtlol10:05
revelaterwell, i ran an install sh and i am not sure what it did, or how to reverse it10:06
bosewichtuse a mouseless wm10:06
Echylouse terminal :p10:06
revelaterfluxbox10:06
revelatercan be10:06
bosewichtinstall sh what?10:06
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Echylogtg10:06
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revelaterthe cursor10:06
MetallicBFinaly10:07
MetallicBgot temponairy internet :@10:07
MetallicBjust 20 minutes and il be poof offline10:07
bosewichti usally put the mouse themes in ~/.icons10:07
k31thmorning guys10:07
revelatershould i just remove it then/10:07
k31thi got ubuntu on the laptop now :D10:08
revelatermy laptop has super powers10:08
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bosewichtubuntu is laptop friendly10:08
revelaterand it disguises itself as a desktop pc10:08
kevin06It is indeed!10:08
k31thlol10:09
k31thyeah its running nice10:09
k31thhad gentoo on here before10:09
revelaterbosewicht: so if i just delete the file what will happen?10:09
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k31thhavent got time for a stage 1 tbh10:09
bosewichtit will be gone   :)10:09
k31ththis seems pretty nippy mind you10:09
anethemaok guys bedtime, gotta be up in 4 hours10:09
kevin06Hey, I am looking for a software recommendation. I need something similar to iPhoto on OS X. Any recommendations?10:09
bosewichtgthumb?10:09
bosewichtnever used iphoto tho10:09
kevin06Picasa then?10:10
kevin06When I was still tethered to Microshitty.10:10
jsgotangcouse F-Spot10:10
revelaterbosewicht: ummmm, will the system crash, will i not have a curser, or will it revert to default/10:10
bosewichthmm, gthumb is good..image viewer10:10
lampshadewhy does mplayer choke and die whenever I try to use it on a webpage--the mplayer plugin or whatever10:10
bosewichtit should revert to default10:10
revelateri will test it out later10:11
bosewichtdid u link or copy mplayer plugin to firefox?10:11
alexandreanyone know if there is lang-chat (like ubuntu-fr or...)10:11
revelateri can run everything by keyboard, so it doesn't worry10:11
revelaterme10:11
revelatermouse just makes somethings faster10:11
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revelate1hey look, its mee too10:12
rj_does the first african in space ever  come in here?10:12
rj_:/10:12
lampshadebosewicht, I'm not sure, what does that mean?  I click a link and the webpage will change to an mplayerplugin-in thing?10:12
bosewichtbut it doesn't play?10:12
revelate1hi me!!10:12
revelaterhey me!!10:12
AstralJavaalexandre: There are some lang-chats, I'd be surprised if there weren't one for French. Try it, you'll be alone if there are no one else. :)10:13
lampshadebosewicht, no, what am I missing here?  I just followed the thing in the faq or whatever that is10:13
lampshadeubuntuguide.org -- just followed that10:13
alexandrein #ubuntu-fr i'ml alone :(10:13
alexandrewell no10:13
alexandresorry lol10:13
Gattonalexandre: i forgot my high school french lessons :(10:14
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alexandreGatton, np :)10:14
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bosewichtlampshade...check u might need to slink or mv the plugin to firefox/plugins10:15
bosewichtbrb10:15
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rj_alexandre: quel semble tre le problme ?10:17
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rj_je ne parle pas franais trs bon :/!10:18
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bosewichtlampshade.....let me install it and see what happens10:19
nubiouswewp - sup threat?10:20
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piratawwwholaa10:21
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threatnub_brb, nadda10:22
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threatneed some samba filesystem ACL information/help though :)10:22
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j2dopehi. i;ve installed bluetooth appz on ubuntu, but none seem to work? any advice?10:25
k31thj2dope: im just about to do bluetooth10:25
alexandrerj_, effectivement :) mais l'effort est meritant10:26
j2dopei used the synaptic package manager to install all the bluetooth stuff i could find10:26
Gattonwell day one of ubuntu is a hit so far for me. night folks10:26
j2dopenone work.. but bluetooth worked on Mandrake for me. and windows natually has no probz with it10:26
Gattonbonne nuit alexandre (apologies if i got that wrong!)10:26
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k31thj2dope: did u install bluez10:27
j2dopeeverything except bluez-cups cos i dont have a printer10:27
j2dopeno 'bluetooth' apps appear in my application menu either...10:28
k31thand if u type hciconfig10:28
k31thwat happens10:28
k31thj2dope: im guessing its usb ?10:29
k31thif so10:29
k31thdo10:29
k31thlsusb10:29
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j2dopek31th: http://pastebin.com/28202410:29
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cyphasedoes anyone here know what exactly launchpad is?10:30
k31thj2dope:  mines the same. wat about lsusb10:30
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cyphaseand why can't you access the launchpad wiki without a password?10:31
alexandreGatton, Np pas de probleme10:31
j2dopek31th: http://pastebin.com/28202510:32
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Burgundaviacyphase, the launchpad wiki is for internal specs10:33
Burgundaviacyphase, basically how to do it technically10:33
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cyphasehmm..10:34
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k31thj2dope: im lookin bare with me im at work :p10:35
j2dopeno worries mate10:35
cyphaseshtoom looks interesting10:35
Burgundaviacyphase, launchpad is suite of apps for doing cool stuff10:36
Burgundaviacyphase, a better bug tracker, etc.10:36
helloyois there a way for me to use a refresh rate of more then 60Hz on my new monitor (it handles it)10:36
cyphasefor distro management you mean..10:36
cyphasenot as a package in ubuntu10:37
Burgundaviacyphase, mostly for distro management10:37
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cyphasei c10:37
k31thj2dope: you from the UK10:37
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ikhi10:37
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ikhow can i install a program?10:37
cyphasethe Breezy goals list looks nice10:37
cyphase;)10:37
iksudo apt-get install?10:37
cyphaseik, synaptic10:37
Crasphello, is it correct that libapache2-mod-php4 is broken on hoary?10:38
sir-goldik run synaptic10:38
cyphaseor apt-get10:38
ikoh ok10:38
cyphasebut if your asking, you should use synaptic10:38
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ikits says as root, so i use sudo?10:38
cyphaseik, yea10:39
ikoki :)10:39
cyphaseor you could run it from System -> Administration10:39
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nubiousholy cripes10:39
nubiousHoary Hedgehog runs way faster that Mr. Warthog10:39
ikits runing now :)10:39
nubioushence the hedgehog I presume10:39
sir-goldik when synaptic asks for a password, use your user password10:39
j2dopek31th: no im from australia10:40
ikoh ok thankyou :) sir-gold10:40
sir-goldyou don't have to use sudo with it10:40
ikoh ok10:40
cbruggemanlol10:40
sir-goldtechnically synaptic uses sudo internally10:40
iki see ok10:41
k31thj2dope: just wondered as you said mate :D right do this;sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth10:41
k31thj2dope: then fire it up and hit scan should find stuff10:41
j2dopek31th: couldn't find gnome-bluetooh :| which repository is it in?10:42
k31thi think its in universe10:42
Craspdoes anybody know if there is a problem with apache2 and php4 on hoary?10:42
Craspmy apache tells me that php is not threadsafe compiled and therefore i cannot use php10:43
sir-goldCrasp http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28241.html10:43
Craspsir-gold: thanks10:43
ikin synaptic its not nmap :(10:43
cbruggemani have the same problem Crasp but me it's for the php and mysql10:43
cbruggemanbut use php4 with apache10:43
cbruggemannot apache210:44
cbruggemanfor me it's good10:44
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Craspi do not have that option :)10:44
k31thj2dope: anyluck10:44
j2dopek31th: no. it's not in my repositories for some reason10:45
ikits no posible to install nmap?10:45
k31thj2dope: you did an update10:45
k31thyou running hoary ?10:45
iknop10:45
j2dopewarty10:45
lifelesscan ubuntu resize hfs+ partitions ?10:45
iksudo apt-get update?10:46
j2dopeim rather new to ubuntu. where can i get all the latest repositories? i've added a few for dvd purposes10:46
Crasplifeless: the question is more.. can parted do that :)10:46
k31thj2dope: ahh im in hoary try adding hoary rep just for this app10:46
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cbruggemanand Crasp have you try to fix it with webmin ?10:46
k31thermm j2dope ill paste u them hang on10:46
Craspcbruggeman: webmin? no thanks, i do not use such software :)10:46
j2dopethanks k31th10:47
cbruggemank :)10:47
Burgundaviaj2dope, the latest repos are what you have already10:47
Craspcbruggeman: apache2 just tells me that php is not compiled threadsafe, whether apache2-mpm-prefork is10:47
j2dopeah K.10:47
Burgundaviaj2dope, if you want dvd playback, etc, you need the hoary-extras stuff10:47
Burgundaviaj2dope, see ubuntuguide.org10:48
ikE: Couldn't find package nmap10:48
Burgundaviaj2dope, otherwise, pretty much everything else free should be in the Ubuntu repos10:48
j2dopeBurgundavia: yeh i added some other respository and got libdvdcss2 or something.10:48
j2dopeit's wierd. gnome-bluetooth just does not appear in mine :|10:48
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Burgundaviaj2dope, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:49
sir-goldik nmap is in there10:49
ikok ok10:49
sir-goldsynaptic has a search button10:49
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sir-goldand if you click in the packages list and start typing it does a quick-search10:50
ikoh thanks :) ok10:50
j2doperead the restricted format text a lot of times. no mention of bluetooth ?10:50
Burgundaviaj2dope, it tells you about universe/multiverse repos10:51
j2dopemy apologies10:51
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Burgundaviaj2dope, np, I was obtuse10:51
iksir-gold i do shearch but its nothing there10:52
j2dopeBurgundavia: well it's better than being ignored when asking a n00b question, so i appreciate it10:52
Burgundaviaj2dope, there are no dumb questions10:53
sir-goldik that is really odd, it should be there10:53
Burgundaviaik, can you /query me your sources.list?10:53
sir-goldclick the reload button at the top10:53
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ikok10:53
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Burgundaviaik, did you follow ubuntuguide.org ?10:54
sir-goldnmap is in the main repo, he shouldn't need universe for that10:54
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Burgundaviasir-gold, there is an annoying bug with ubuntuguide.org10:54
Burgundaviathat sometimes makes people remove there main repo10:54
Burgundavias/there/their10:54
sir-goldoh10:54
Burgundaviaif you are not careful10:54
iki just install it from the cd10:55
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sir-goldik go to settings>repositories10:55
ikok10:55
sir-goldhow many of them are checked?10:55
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iksir-gold is on configuration editor?10:57
sir-goldconfiguration editor?10:58
Burgundaviaik, in system-->admin-->synaptic10:58
ikok10:58
ikonly one10:59
ikdev dc room10:59
sir-goldcheck the first 510:59
ikok :)10:59
sir-goldthen hit reload10:59
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ikok11:00
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sir-goldwhen its done, search for nmap11:00
ikoh ok :)11:01
karimubuntu live cd is not better than knoppix11:01
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karimI guess it's only to have a preview11:01
sir-goldthe repository window tells synaptic/apt-get where to search and download from11:01
karimof ubuntu, rather than having something really functional11:01
karim?11:01
Burgundaviakarim, they are working to extend it11:02
ikNo manual entry for nmap11:02
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dolnyhi ive got a stupid question, how to download11:03
dolnyappropriate kernel source for my kernel?11:03
eyequeuedolny:  using what? wget?11:04
iksir-gold its there but i doesnt work11:04
dolnyyeah, can be wget11:04
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dolnyor apt-get11:04
topylido cat /proc/version to find out what youre running11:04
dolnyi have to recompile the kernel11:04
dolnymaybe that way fglrx ati card 3d acc will work11:05
eyequeuedolny:  oh, "my kernel" being a ubuntu package?  apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10-whateverhere11:05
topyliyes11:05
dolnyLinux version 2.6.10-5-686 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Tue Apr 5 12:27:02 UTC 200511:05
dolnywell eye: the thing is I want to follow this:11:05
eyequeuedolny:  uname -r to see the full name of it11:05
dolnyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535611:06
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dolnyyoull know by this link, check it out11:06
eyequeuedolny:  apt-get install linux-source-5-68611:06
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dolnyhm11:07
dolnybrb11:07
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iksir-gold now its there :) thankyou11:07
karimBurgundavia: cool :)11:07
dolnyanother stupid question11:08
dolnyi want to kill a process11:08
dolnywith a certain PID11:08
dolnyits apt-get downloading something, i close the console and it continues downloading11:08
nubioushow do you list your PID files?11:08
nubiouserr11:08
nubiouspid processes?11:08
nubious(in shell)11:08
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dolnykde system guard11:08
eyequeuedolny:  i'm uncertain if the current package in the -restricted repo is the same as the latest from ati ( like with nvidia )11:08
dolnynot in shell11:08
nubiousbut how do you do it in shell?11:08
eyequeuenubious:  ps11:08
nubiouscool11:08
nubiousthx11:08
ikits posible to change keybord layout?11:09
nubiouso0o0o11:09
nubiousnice11:09
karim611:09
eyequeuedolny:  kill 12345 (your pid)11:09
dolnythanks ;)11:09
dolnyeyequeue dolny:  i'm uncertain if the current package in the -restricted repo is the same as the latest from ati ( like with nvidia )11:09
MAGNUM3ubuntu is the most slow in linux11:09
eyequeuedolny:  not a stupid question btw (unless you ask it all week, heh)11:09
dolnywell11:09
dolnyive been trying to install 3d acc for my radeon 9600 for 3 days now11:10
eyequeuethe only way to learn new things is to ask :)11:10
dolnyfollowed like 4 tutorials11:10
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dolnynow ill try to recompile the kernel11:10
MAGNUM3why everybody like ubuntu11:10
dolnywell it works very fast for me11:10
dolnyi checked mandrake, FC3 before11:10
MAGNUM3i think gentoo more well than ubuntu11:10
dolnywell i havent tried gentoo, ubuntu is best for newbies i think11:11
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linuxboyMAGNUM3: look at http://funroll-loops.org/11:11
johnnybezakhey guys just bought an iPod, its loaded up under hoary no worries, only problem is that i dont have write permissions on anything, chown and chmod don't seem to be working. I suppose it's mounting it read only, because it's auto-mounting i don't know how to change that, any help would be good thanks guys11:11
eyequeuethe beauty of linux: you can choose what you personally prefer11:11
MAGNUM3ha11:11
dolnyeye: yeah ;>11:11
MAGNUM3all is fuuny people11:11
dolnydolny@milkshake:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-source-5-68611:12
dolnyReading package lists... Done11:12
dolnyBuilding dependency tree... Done11:12
dolnyE: Couldn't find package linux-source-5-68611:12
dolnyah... ;/11:12
ik'11:12
BurgundaviaMAGNUM3, #ubuntu is about ubuntu, please stay on topic or leave11:12
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MAGNUM3ubuntu is a rubbish11:12
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MAGNUM3he11:13
HrdwrBoBMAGNUM3: do be quiet11:13
dolnyheh11:13
eyequeuedolny:  sorry, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1011:13
MAGNUM3u shut up11:13
dolnyso idiots also use linux11:13
MAGNUM3kepochi11:13
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dolnywhats the use of coming here11:13
fabbioneMAGNUM3: please behave11:13
dolnybitching about ubuntu11:13
dolnyif you dont like it11:13
dolnyuse another linux11:13
dolnyperiod.11:13
johnnybezakdon't bite he's just trolling11:13
eyequeuedolny:  to troll, apparently :(  (please don't feed...)11:13
dolny:)11:14
johnnybezakhelp me with my iPod instead ;)11:14
ikhow can i put a firefox icon on desktop is is posible?11:14
dolnyeye: thank you, downloading the source now11:14
Boohbahdolny: some people crave attention that is lacking in their lives11:14
dolnyi think youre right11:14
MAGNUM3peoples use ubuntu linux,all is an idiot11:14
neboik, right click and create launcher11:14
eyequeueik:  i would right-click on the desktop, then create a launcher11:14
dolny:D11:14
dolnywhat an idiot :)11:14
ikok11:14
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ik=) thanks11:14
Boohbahrj_: <blink>11:15
rj_got tired of not knowing when someone replied to a msg in gaim when it was minmized11:15
neboik, easier is to dragg'ndrop it from the menu11:15
dolnyyou guys anybody using kubuntu here? (i know about #kubuntu)11:15
dolnybecause i have problems with my jabber client: Psi - it doesnt show up on my taskbar11:15
rj_brb - testing patch!11:15
dolnywell i think that my taskbar doesnt work at all after upgrading kde-xxx11:16
dolnynothing stays on my taskbar so when i close my communicator's window i can get back to the app11:16
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horCan somebody say me where the Xmodmap has to be?!11:16
harshacan some one tell me how to change the vaule of PATH variable11:16
k31thj2dope: did it work ?11:17
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unfhello11:18
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Taliesin`(harsha): from the command line, use $PATH = "what you want the paths to be"11:19
iknebo ok thankyou =)11:19
Taliesin`easiest way to do it, if you just want to add a nextra path to $PATH is to do $PATH = "/new/path:$PATH"11:19
ikubuntu rulez =)11:19
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nubiousdope11:20
nubiousI got my TS server up again on Hoary11:20
harshathanx Taliesin11:20
eyequeueharsha:  in bash: export PATH="${PATH}:/new/dir/here" if you want to append11:20
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eyequeueTaliesin, harsha: no spaces before or after = btw11:21
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mischaanyone know how to get libapache-mod-fastcgi for apache on ubuntu11:21
mischacan't find it anywhere11:22
ekCohmm xmms isn't installing, it says it is but the packages are missing..11:22
mischai know it is available under debian...11:22
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mischai need it for ruby on rails, you should all try that....it is sooo cool :)11:22
Boohbahmischa: then use the debian repo11:23
thenukethenuke@Hero:~$ apt-cache search libapache-mod-fastcgi11:23
thenukelibapache-mod-fastcgi - FastCGI module for Apache11:23
eyequeuemischa:  i see many alternatives with 'apt-cache search fastcgi'11:23
thenukeavalaible from ubuntu repos11:23
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Boohbahoops11:23
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eyequeuemischa: perhaps you need to enable the universe repository?11:23
engieIs it possible to get my eject button on my cd drive to unmount/eject the cd?11:23
mischadeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe11:24
mischagot it :)11:24
mischabut11:24
eyequeueengie:  not until; you 'umount' the filesystem on it11:24
unfthere exists a hoary-backports repository (like there was on warty)?11:24
mischaeyequeue: nothing usable there...only for apache211:24
Boohbahhoary-backports.... sounds... dirty...11:24
engieeyequeue: Is there any app to detect teh eject press on the drive and unmount it?11:24
mischaBoohbah: ill try that...11:24
mischaBoohbah:tanx11:24
eyequeuelibapache-mod-fastcgi - FastCGI module for Apache11:24
eyequeuelibapache2-mod-fastcgi - FastCGI module for Apache211:24
ekCoanyone know how to get xmms installed?11:25
mischaeyequeue: please dump all your repos.... so i can see what i miss :)11:25
eyequeueengie:  to my knowledge, no, you have to use "umount" (not unmount btw)11:25
thenukemischa: http://www.ubuntuguide.org check repos from there11:25
ekCo64bit ubuntu i might add11:25
unfso, Boohbah, it doesn't exist?11:25
Boohbahi don't know11:26
goofriderhttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/11:26
eyequeuemischa:  my bad, sorry. Filename: pool/multiverse/liba/libapache-mod-fastcgi/libapache-mod-fastcgi_2.4.2-5_i386.deb11:26
goofriderthere **is*** hary-backports11:26
eyequeuemischa:  you'll need multiverse, not just universe11:26
eyequeueharry-backports, harry potter translated to geek-speak :)11:27
goofriderthe backport server is really busy though, so be patient if u get timeouts or 500 Error11:27
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Boohbahharry-backports, sounds like goatse to me11:28
mischathenuke: ok thanx that worked :)11:28
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mischaeyequeue: got it.11:28
eyequeueBoohbah:  ahhhhh, *now* i get the joke from before11:28
mischaeyequeue: it works tanx11:28
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nevyngoofrider: wouldn't that be there ARE hoary backports11:28
eyequeuemischa:  great11:28
nevynbeing plural11:28
nevynand for something specific there is a backport being singular.11:29
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ekCoanyone know how to get xmms installed on ubuntu 64bit?11:29
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goofrider"hoary-backports" repository11:29
goofridersingular11:29
goofriderthere's only ONE repo11:29
goofrider:-P11:29
nevynthere is a hoary backports repository.11:29
nevynbut there are backports availible for hoary11:29
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Fator_Deehello \o11:30
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eyequeueis there anything in hoary-updates yet btw?11:30
Nermalyah11:30
goofriderubuntu-clendar11:30
goofridercalendar11:30
goofriderLMAO11:30
eyequeueah11:30
goofriderthere are a bunch of stuff in hoary-security though, namely apache2 and openoffice.org updates11:31
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eyequeueapril was the latest i could find, and it's may, at least here :)11:32
drfanatichallo... spricht jemand deutsch?11:32
eyequeuedrfanatic:   #ubuntu-de       42      Freundlicher deutscher ubuntuchannel | Hilfe: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/ http://www.ubuntu-forum.de | http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=200046511:32
eyequeuedrfanatic:  /join #ubuntu-de11:33
eyequeue(if i guessed correctly at the translation, i don't speak german)11:33
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drfanaticthx!11:34
eyequeuede nada ;)11:34
drfanatic;)11:34
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transgressokay anyone in here using kde?11:35
Burgundaviatransgress, you might try #kubuntu11:35
goofrider /j #kde11:35
transgressBurgundavia: i did11:35
Burgundaviatransgress, we are gnome users here11:35
transgressgoofrider: i am in there...11:35
transgressBurgundavia: not all of us...11:35
goofriderwell maybe u should just ask the question  :)11:36
transgressbleh...  guess i'll have to do this the overcomplicated way of reading stuff11:36
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Riddelltransgress: yes11:36
transgressi'm trying to get translucency working in kde, but it bitched about adding a line to my xorg.conf... that just doesn't let kdm start (but it doesn't complain either)11:36
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transgressand i'm wondering if anyone has it working and what they did11:36
nubious_ok so irssi works again11:37
nubious_woo11:37
nubiousyay11:37
nubiousI love ubuntu11:37
nubiousand it loves me.11:37
transgressno you don't11:37
nubiousyes11:37
transgressyou have it11:37
nubiousyes I do11:37
goofriderI think there was a thread on ubuntuforums about adding transparency to Xorg11:37
transgresserr hate11:37
nubious<311:37
transgressbleh11:37
nubiousI do have it11:37
nubiousand I can learn to hate it11:37
transgressi guess ima have to hop back into X... i was trying to avoid that11:37
nubiousthat should balance the love I have for it11:37
nubious:D11:37
nubiousmeh11:38
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transgressbrb11:38
eyequeuetransgress:  like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25019.html11:38
nubiousso what would you guys recommend as a remote desktop utility to get into Gnome from my windows machine?11:38
nubiousI've heard VNC works quite good...11:38
Nermalso use vnc11:38
goofriderjust use plain old X11 if you're doing remote desktop over LAN11:38
nubiousis there anything better?11:38
eyequeuenubious:  yes, and there should be a vnc app even for ms11:38
Nermalor ssh -X11:38
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HrdwrBoBnubious: freenx11:38
nubiousssh -x?11:38
Nermal-X11:39
goofriderVNC is slooooooooooooooooow (because it sends the screen as JPEG bitmaps)11:39
Nermalyeah.. forward x11 over ssh11:39
nubioushmm11:39
NermalJpeg bitmaps ?11:39
nubiousand whats x11 exactly?11:39
Nermalthe x window system11:39
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Nermalthe graphical subsystem on most linux distros11:39
Nermalwhat gnome runs on11:39
nubiousgoofrider: that shouldn't be a problem on my network tho.. it's just two machines behind a 100 mbit router11:39
HrdwrBoBfreenx is like ssh -X only better11:39
nubiousright right ok..  but would that load gnome?11:39
Nermalno :|11:39
nubiousor just the xwindows system?11:39
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nubioushmm11:39
nubioussee I'd like to use gnome.11:40
goofriderto use X on windows, use Xming or CygwinX or X/Deep3211:40
Nermalyou would log into the the machine with ssh -X and any x app you run would appear on your screen11:40
eyequeuenubious:  without the -X, you'll likely only get commandline access (unless you tweaked configs)11:40
Nermalyou could always run gnome-session when you log in11:40
nubiousI dont run from the ubuntu machien tho11:40
Nermalbut I'm thinking vnc maybe the best way11:40
goofrideror u can just use XDMCP and login via GDM11:40
nubioushmm11:40
Nermalaye.. that would work11:40
nubiousvncis prolly the easiest11:41
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nubiousbah you guys are all talkin in acronyms11:41
goofriderVNC is easiest11:41
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mrwIsn't there something like gvim for vim with guis?  just vim but adds mouse support, etc?  I thought there was but I'm not finding it ;(11:41
eyequeueNermal:  vnc is probably what you want, and you can even tunnel it via ssh, if you like, heh (google for a HOWTO on that, if interested)11:41
nubiousis it free?  (the linux vnc)11:41
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mrwnubious, yea11:42
ermanoxanyone know how to change the font in bash console (command line)11:42
eyequeuemrw:  sudo apt-get install vim-gnome11:42
goofriderX Window has a lot of different components. It's hard to explain to someone who's not ready or doesn't have the patient11:42
mrweyequeue, I did but something must have gone wrong or something11:42
nubiouswell I've seen X in use before...11:42
nubiouslong time ago11:42
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nubiousI like the gnome ui tho11:42
nubiousI jsut got my hoary installation working11:42
nubiousso11:42
nubiousI wanna play with it11:42
goofriderNubious: You're looking @ X right now11:42
nubiousuhhh11:42
eyequeuemrw: dpkg -l vim-gnome, see if it starts with "ii "11:42
nubiousno I'm not11:43
goofriderX uns locally as well as remotelt11:43
nubiousI'm looking at windows11:43
nubiousMicrosluff Windows xp11:43
goofridernub: oh LOL11:43
nubious:D11:43
nubiousI ssh in from my windows machine for all my configing11:43
mrweyequeue, yeah starts with ii11:43
nubiousthats why I wanna setup VNC11:43
eyequeuevim-gnome: /usr/bin/gvim11:43
goofriderI personally use remote X from my Windows box11:43
nubioushmm11:44
nubiousyou find that the best?11:44
Nermalermanox, setfont ?11:44
Nermalsetfont sc was fun11:44
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goofrideratried VN (too slow) and FreeNX (it's basically X over SSH, don't see the point of it)11:44
ermanoxoh11:44
goofrider***tried VNC*** (too close)11:44
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k31thyo11:44
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ermanoxand the setfont is in my .bashrc file?11:45
mrwermanox, if you are messing with it in X, then I know you can just change your profile and mess around there.  Don't know what you do if you are changing it for the terminal outside of X, though11:46
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nubioushmm11:47
nubiousI went to grab VNC but it says it's got server packages for redhat11:47
nubiouswill that work on ubuntu?11:47
Nermalredhat being rpm based ...11:47
nubiousright11:47
ermanoxI got bord with X and an ruffing it on the command line for a change11:47
eyequeueermanox:  i'd recommend trying the setfont manually before adding it to the .bashrc, in case it breaks readability or somehting11:47
mrwnubious, use synaptic or apt-get11:47
nubiousahh11:47
nubiousok11:47
nubioussec11:47
Nermalnubious, apt-get install vncserver ?11:48
goofridernubious: VNC came installed with ubunutu11:48
Nermalvnc-common does11:48
nubiousoh yeah?11:48
nubiouscame installed?11:48
Nermalnot the server11:48
nubiousahh11:48
nubiousserver11:48
nubiousone sec11:48
eyequeuenubious:  apt-cache search vnc | less11:48
Nermalnubious, you may find aptitude search vnc helpful11:48
goofriderPreference -> remote Deskto11:48
Nermalgoofrider, thats the viewer no ?11:48
goofriderPreference -> remote Desktop11:48
Fator_Deeit's installed but not enabled by default11:48
goofriderthat's the server11:48
Nermalhmm11:49
nubiousvino11:49
goofriderthat's where u enable it11:49
nubioushere we go11:49
nubiousvnc server for gnome11:49
nubioussweet11:49
Nermalserver isn't installed by default here11:49
goofrideroh11:49
Fator_Dee:-o11:49
goofriderIt's installed on mine11:49
nubioushah11:49
Fator_Deemine too11:49
nubiousapparently it's isntalled11:49
nubiousweee11:49
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nubiouslemme hop over to the 2 color tube monitor and attempt to set it up11:49
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lampshade502 peeps in here?  wow I remember when it had like 2011:50
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horAnybody here who uses the new program initng?11:50
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Fator_Deewe are multiplying rapidly, soon we'll conquer the whole planet11:51
lampshade273 more people and we take #debian!!!11:51
nub_brbhmm11:51
nub_brbwhere'd you guys find it?11:51
nub_brb(vino)11:51
eyequeuecurious, is there a disadvantage of vnc4server compared to vncserver?  backward compatibility absent?11:51
goofriderfind what?11:51
nub_brbfind the config to setup the vnc server11:52
Burgundaviahor, somebody posted some boot time stuff to the list11:52
goofriderI'd choose tightvinc11:52
Burgundaviahor, -devel list11:52
goofriderI'd choose tightvnc11:52
goofrider/etc/vnc.conf maybe???11:52
horBurgundavia: ok, thank you, i'll watch for it :)11:53
Raptoidi'm lost root password ubuntu11:53
eyequeuebtw, i don't have any vnc server installed on a fresh hoary install (after the box came back from the factory)11:53
Burgundaviahor, check the archives11:53
Raptoidwhat do u want11:53
eyequeueRaptoid:  no, ubuntu doens't enable a root11:53
Burgundaviahor, this was not something that is probably going to be in breezy11:53
Burgundaviahor, too new11:53
k31thwoahyou know your a g33k when  =11:53
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k31thIrssi uptime: 63d 22h 29m 14s11:54
sir-goldonly 2 months?11:54
eyequeueRaptoid:  see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:54
nub_brboh my god11:54
nub_brbthere's no way it was THAT easy11:54
nub_brbone sec11:55
Raptoideyequeue, ok thnks..11:55
eyequeueRaptoid:  np11:55
lampshadek31th, NICE11:55
jacobehey guys, how do i update the gcc to 3.x in ubuntu?11:55
k31thlampshade: thanks :D11:55
jacobeim used to fedora/new to linux11:55
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sir-goldjacobe, did you install hoary?11:55
k31thlampshade: this box is in the telhouse :D11:55
jacobei dunno?11:56
jacobeno11:56
Burgundaviajacobe, 2 menus or 3?11:56
eyequeuejacobe:  for example, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.311:56
jacobei dunno im just trying to compile mplayer and it doesnt like my comiler11:56
jacobeok cool that sounds right11:56
Burgundaviajacobe, you don't really need to compile mplayer11:56
nubiousOH MY GOD11:57
Burgundaviathere are repos available with working mplayers11:57
goofridermaybe u should just download mplayer from Universe or Marillat11:57
eyequeuejacobe:  be advised that will likely pull in some extra packages11:57
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nubiousI'm extremely impressed11:57
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lampshadenubious, GO FOR IT  I did,  actually I switched to this after I tried some others11:57
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Burgundaviajacobe, package repositories11:57
nubiousI'm soooo impressed11:57
jacobelike rpms?11:57
Burgundaviajacobe, sort of11:58
lampshadejacobe, kind of11:58
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ubuntuhi all11:58
goofriderDebian/Ubuntu has it's own way of dealing with packages, it's probably not advicable for a newcomer to compile from source, u might stomp over the system11:58
Burgundavialike freshrpms11:58
Burgundaviabut integrated11:58
ubuntuI am in the livecd now11:58
ubuntuhow can I become root11:58
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p88?11:58
nubiouscheck this out --> http://usera.imagecave.com/nubious/rightnow.JPG11:58
eyequeuehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:58
goofriderjacab: http://ubuntuguide.org11:58
jacobethanks a lot guys11:58
Kamping_in_dozep88 sudo -s11:58
p88ah right11:58
p88:)11:58
p88didn't think of that11:58
nubiousI love it11:58
nubiousI really really love it11:58
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p88thanks11:59
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Kamping_in_dozelol. nubious. at jpg ;)11:59
nubious:D11:59
nubiousdual monitors pwn11:59
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nubiousanyone here play with teamspeak ever?12:00
goofriderwhat is it?12:00
nubiouswww.goteamspeak.com12:00
willisanyone running breezy, and installed beagle or linux-image-2.6.12 from repositories?12:00
nubiouscheggitout12:00
sir-goldnubious you should check out ultramon12:01
nubiousultramon?12:01
nubiousin ubuntu?12:01
Burgundaviawillis, i suspect that beagle needs some deps before it hits the repos12:01
sir-goldit adds a bunch of multi-monitor stuff12:01
sir-goldno, its for windows12:01
goofriderI thought Beagle needs a kernel patch12:01
willisBurgundavia, i saw it on the beagle upstream, but i can only find it in the breezy_universe_sources list12:01
sir-goldlike seperate wallpaper and screensavers for each monitor12:01
nubiousahh12:01
nubiouswhat kinda neat stuff?12:01
sir-golda monitor specific task bar12:01
willisgoofrider, well linux-image-2.6.12 was added to12:01
nubioushrm12:02
nubiousthats kinda cool12:02
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Burgundaviawillis, it has built, but not in the repos, I don't know why12:02
nubiousI can do seperate wallpaper nstuff with my nvidia drivers12:02
sir-goldthe ability to move a maximized app to the other screen12:02
nubiousyeah12:02
willishttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/breezy-changes/2005-May/004331.html12:02
nubiousI can do all that with the nforce drivers12:02
nubiousthey're kinda bleh tho12:02
willishmm, yeah i was confused, because i thought it would take a few hours for it to build and then be added as a binary package12:02
nubiouscan VNC pipe sound thru the network too?12:02
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goofriderwhat's the point of Teamspeak? Skype is free (as in beer)12:03
goofriderand they have a DEB package12:03
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Burgundaviawillis, it has built correctly12:03
nubiousteamspeak is free as well12:03
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sir-goldnubious i don't think so12:03
Burgundaviawillis, it just isn't there yet12:03
Burgundaviawillis, I would wait, the mono stuff is being built right now12:03
nubiousthe reason it's better than skype is you can have multiple rooms and stuff - so like..  rather than you call someone, you join a chat channel and you speak with everyone in that channel12:03
nubiousskype is great for phone calls12:03
sir-goldterminal services can send sound, but that doesn't really apply here12:03
nubiousteamspeak is just better for gaming12:03
nubiousso does VNC pipe this via a term session?12:04
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nubiousI would guess I suppose12:04
willisBurgundavia, ah ok, for some reason, lot's of the things i noticed coming in on the breezy-changes list, aren't  reflected in aptitude, ( i'm just a sucker for the new stuff )12:04
Burgundaviawillis, that means the source has been accepted12:04
sir-goldvnc just copies the video, and allows mouse and keyboard actions to be sent12:04
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Burgundaviawillis, it may not even build12:04
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Burgundaviawillis, http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html12:05
sir-goldit doesn't do anthing with terminal sessions12:05
goofriderbut u can continue to login via SSH in a separate window on your Windows desktop12:05
willisBurgundavia, ok hmm, thanks12:06
Burgundaviawillis, there are a lot of major changes happening right now12:06
willisBurgundavia, yeah so a lot of things are getting built but a lot are failing as well12:06
Burgundaviawillis, expect breakage and don't bug the dev team about packages not showing up12:06
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Burgundaviawillis, the date by which you should start asking is around late Sept.12:06
clausmehello12:07
clausmedoes anyone know12:07
willisBurgundavia, i guess before when i was watching hoary-changes, most of the builds were succesful, so the packages would end up as binaries in an hour or so, but because of the volitale nature of breezy many of these builds won't go through right away12:07
goofriderLOL @ Bur12:07
clausmehow to make the sount 5.1 in ubuntu12:07
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Burgundaviawillis, change over to gcc 4.0 is a big one12:07
Burgundaviawillis, and the general sync to sid12:07
willisBurgundavia, yeah i know12:07
Burgundaviaclausme, what do you mean?12:07
sir-goldfrom what i have read, gcc 4 is slower12:07
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Burgundaviaslower now, but faster in the end12:08
goofriderBurg: the switch to Xorg was a big one too12:08
eyequeuesir-gold:  slower to build things, or the resultant binaries run slower?12:08
Burgundaviathat was hoary12:08
sir-goldboth12:08
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Burgundaviagcc is bigger12:08
goofrider**was**12:08
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goofridertrue... GCC affects just about everything12:08
freewoodyHow do I install Qmail in Ubuntu12:09
Burgundaviaand debian is not using 4.012:09
sir-goldthe same app, compiled in gcc 4 took longer to compile and ran slower than in gcc 312:09
Burgundaviapython 2.4 was also big12:09
willisBurgundavia, i just found beagle in the build log, built succesfuly12:09
nubiousI JUST bought a book on C++ compiling12:09
goofriderit's way too early to install breezy if u'r not a developer.12:09
nubiouserr12:09
nubiousabout C++ in general12:09
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Burgundaviawillis, but it isn't there, I have no idea why12:09
nubiousa beginners guide..  I used to code VB n stuff back in highschool, but I wanna get back into12:09
willisBurgundavia, ok, well thanks anyway12:09
nubioushere's my question though: if I compile something on linux, can I move it to my win machien via winscp and run it if it was designed for windows?12:10
goofriderNubios: Start with Python and Mono12:10
nubiouslike - do all my coding on my nix machine and do my testing on windows?12:10
Burgundavianubious, if you are looking to learn a language, I would go high-level, c# or python12:10
Burgundavianubious, not relaly12:10
nevynnubious: no.12:10
nubioushmmm12:10
sir-goldnubious, you have to compile it under windows12:10
nevynpython you can sortof tho.12:10
sir-goldthere is a gcc for windows12:10
nubiousthat makes cents12:10
nubioussense?12:10
nubioussense.12:10
nubiouswell I might just drop dollars on visual C12:10
nubiouserm12:10
nubiousyeah12:10
goofriderIf u use C# + GTK#, it might work12:10
nubiouswhy C#?12:11
nubiouswhats better about it?12:11
sir-goldms visual c can't compile linux apps12:11
Burgundaviaor python and pygtk12:11
goofriderthere's a GTK# compile for Windows12:11
nubiouswhy all the sharp stuff now?12:11
Burgundaviathat is also cross plaform12:11
nubiouswhat was wrong with C++? :)12:11
nubiousI hear c# is slower12:11
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Burgundavianubious, c# is almost java12:11
nubioushmm12:11
nubioussee I dont know Java12:11
goofriderC++ is unmanaged12:11
nubiousI'd like to just get into general coding tho12:11
kernelvnI install in expert mode12:11
Burgundaviathe higher level language you write, the easy it is12:11
nubiousright12:12
goofriderC# is like Java, statically typed, garage collected12:12
nubiousI dont want easy12:12
kernelvnand the user I add did not has the sudo12:12
nubiousI want proper coding12:12
nubiouslike12:12
nubiousground up12:12
nubiousmemory management and everything12:12
nubiousnone of this 3rd party program showing me how to code bollox12:12
goofriderAssmbly?12:12
nubioushahaha12:12
nubiousthat's too low level12:12
kernelvnhow to make it sudo able ?12:12
nubiousI've tried12:12
nubiousit's a headache12:12
Burgundavianubious, honestly, life is too short to code in c or c++12:12
goofriderno kidding12:12
nubioushmmm12:12
Burgundaviakernelvn, add your user to the admin group12:12
nubiousBurgundavia: you make a good point...12:12
nubiousso c# hey?12:13
nubioushmmm12:13
kernelvnhow ? burgundavia ?12:13
Burgundaviapython makes it far easier to get started12:13
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kernelvnas ID = 1 ?12:13
nubiouspython can be obtained where?12:13
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BoohbahBurgundavia: yeah, C really sucks, like linux and GNU ane all that12:13
Burgundaviakernelvn, did you set a root password?12:13
goofriderIt's very common to rewrite modules in C/C++ if u needed the native interface or speed12:13
BurgundaviaBoohbah, all have there place12:13
kernelvnyes12:13
kernelvnI have to use the nomal teminal and then su root12:13
Burgundaviakernelvn, login as root, add your user to the sudo and then disable the root account12:13
goofriderbut most ppl avoid C/C++ when they can nowadays12:13
Burgundaviakernelvn, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo12:13
cyphasenubious, python is preinstalled in Ubuntu12:13
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kernelvnhow to add user o the sudo ?12:14
nubioussee that's the problem with coding noadays12:14
nubioushave you guy ever played ANY EA game?12:14
kernelvnthank :)12:14
nubiousanything like NHLPA or NBA2k3 or whatever?12:14
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BurgundaviaEA is generally crap12:14
nubiouscoding has gotten SO sloppy these days12:14
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goofriderwell game programming is a whole different ballpacrk12:14
nubiousBurgundavia: thats my point - they use higher level languages because they dont have the skill12:14
nubiouswell thats the thing12:14
kernelvnso how to gain IP address with DHCP with ifconfig ?12:14
Burgundaviaactually C and C++ are much more likely to have security issues12:14
sir-goldnubious: no, but i have seen a nfk 2kX addict, its not a pretty sight12:14
Burgundavianubious, and what you just said is flat out wrong12:14
nubiousBurgundavia: which?12:15
sir-goldnfl12:15
nubiousabout skill?12:15
redbull?12:15
Burgundavianubious, yes12:15
nubiouspardon..  that WAS an arrogant statement12:15
nubiousBUT12:15
kernelvnI use ifconfig and when I reboot , the IP is gone12:15
Burgundavianubious, skill has nothing to do with the language you write12:15
nubiousI see a lot of programs these days that run like crap12:15
cyphasegame programming pushes the limits of programming12:15
kernelvnhow to keep it last ?12:15
nubiousI mean12:15
goofriderThat's because they're crappy programmers12:15
nubiousI've seen a doom replica in 64 kilbytes12:15
redbullcould anyone tell me how do I intstall a dc++ program on ubuntu linux?12:15
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goofridermaybe they write crappy code,m, or maybe they pick the wrong tool12:16
nubiousdoom itself was what?  3 disks?12:16
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goofriderFootprint !+ good code12:16
nubiousso thats at LEAST 4 megs(ish)12:16
goofrider!=12:16
kernelvnany help ?12:16
nubiousso I mean12:16
nubiousif you can replicate that12:16
Burgundavianubious, you are confusing too issues here12:16
dolnyplease help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=166030#post16603012:16
nubiouswell12:16
dolnyi described the problem there12:16
nubiousI'm confused12:16
nubiousmyself12:16
nubiousso12:16
Burgundavianubious, crappy code is due to people being paid too little for work they hate12:16
dolnydont flood nubious :)12:16
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mpqis there a better image viewer for gnome?12:16
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dolnyBurgundavia please check: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=166030#post16603012:17
dolnythanks ;)12:17
goofridermpq: F-Spotmayver?12:17
mpqeye of gnome isn't very good12:17
goofriderF-spot maybe??12:17
mpqgoofrider: never heard of it12:17
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goofriderapt-get it and try it  :)12:17
Burgundaviadolny, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto12:18
Burgundaviadolny, everything you need is there12:18
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dolnyno12:18
nubioushow can I see what apt-get packages are available thru my shell?12:18
dolnybecause i want to delete that file12:18
dolnyand diverse thing12:18
dolnyand i cant because of diverse12:18
rj_How do i delete the gnome keyring? or atleast manager it?12:18
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Burgundaviadolny, I have never seen that error12:19
rj_Whenever i boot up i hafta enter my password twice to unlock to keyring so nautilus can access my desktop12:19
goofriderapt-cache --help12:19
Burgundavianubious, aptitude12:19
nubiousk12:19
rj_hrm /me installs gnome-keyring-manager12:20
nubiousahh here's a question12:20
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nubiousI installed tcsh from aptitude12:20
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nubiousand I ran it, but my ls command doesn't display color unless I use the --color=always switch12:20
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nubiousis there a way I can set it up to ALWAYS do it?12:20
nubiousI assumed by using --color=always it would like flip the on switch on or something12:20
nubiousapparently my assumptions were just that - assumptions12:20
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k31thyo12:21
k31thim having an issue12:21
nubiouswe're ALL having issues keith...12:21
nubious:)12:21
snader:P12:21
k31thI have system sounds12:21
nubiouswhats up?12:21
Burgundavianubious, it must have a .conf switch12:21
Burgundavias/switch/file12:21
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clausmehello12:21
goofridernub: check your .bashrc, .bashprofile, and all the other suspicious locations12:21
clausmewhere do i find ncurses library12:22
k31thbut when i load mplayer (i compiled from source) says has probs opening /dev/dsp12:22
nubiousI'll check it out12:22
goofriderjust put ls --color in a non-BASH specific profile file12:22
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Burgundaviak31th, change to use the esd backend12:22
k31th?12:22
Burgundaviak31th, and why did you compile from source?12:22
k31thBurgundavia: how i do that12:22
Burgundaviak31th, there is a working copy of mplayer in the multiverse repo12:22
k31thBurgundavia: it was not in apt-get12:22
Burgundaviawww.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:23
nubiousgoofrider: if I knew how to do that, I would..  thing is.. I've only been really using linux like a week12:23
goofrider#man bsh12:23
clausmencurses library how do i find it and install it12:23
clausme?12:23
Burgundaviasee the bit about multiverse12:23
goofrider#man bash12:23
k31thBurgundavia:12:23
goofriderand scroll to the bottom, there's a list of conf and profile locations12:23
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k31thill remove the compiled version then12:23
Raptoidno root why ?12:23
clausmencurses library how do i find it and install it12:23
clausme?12:23
BurgundaviaRaptoid, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo for reasons12:23
Raptoidok12:23
clausmehello12:24
clausmeanswer pls12:24
clausmencurses library how do i find it and install it12:24
clausmeanswer pls12:24
clausme?12:24
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goofriderNcures is intsalled by default12:24
Hans_de_ZwartI have just installed ubuntu for the first time and looks really good!12:24
nubiousso by default, the shell I'm using (/bin/sh) is BASH, right?12:24
nubiousHans_de_Zwart: Warty or Hoary?12:24
goofriderNub: /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash12:24
nubiousahh ok12:24
clausme[*]  Creating Menu, please wait.12:24
clausmeThis needs the ncurses library. If it is not available, menuconf wont work. If you are using curses, use make menuconfig-curses instead.12:24
clausmeis not12:24
clausmelook12:24
k31thBurgundavia: how do i remove it if i compiled from source ?12:25
k31thi did a make clean in its dir12:25
k31thbut its still there...12:25
Burgundaviak31th, no idea, I never compile from source outside of my pbuilder12:25
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Hans_de_Zwartnubious: hoary12:25
nubiousHans_de_Zwart: nice.. I just got mine running today as well12:26
eyequeueclausme:  if you are trying to compile against curses, sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev12:26
nubiousj00 l1ke whuchu see?12:26
clausmek12:26
Hans_de_ZwartI cannot get the network working. I have three network devices: the modem, etho: wireless and eth1 realtek network card.12:26
jono_I want to create an icon on my desktop to run a root program, I tried: 'gksudo /opt/lampp/lampp start' and it won't pass the start argument to the program - is there a way around this?12:26
Hans_de_ZwartWhen I activate the last one, It gets deactivated after a little while12:26
clausmePackage libncurses5-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:27
clausmeis only available from another source12:27
clausmeE: Package libncurses5-dev has no installation candidate12:27
clausmeeyequeue now what12:27
goofriderk31th: it's generally a bad idea to compile and install from source. U should consult the Debian Reference12:27
clausmeis n ot workingf12:27
Nermalclausme, got universe etc in your sources.list ?12:27
jono_I want to create an icon on my desktop to run a root program, I tried: 'gksudo /opt/lampp/lampp start' and it won't pass the start argument to the program - is there a way around this?12:27
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clausmeyes12:27
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Upayavir1A short while ago, I upgraded from Debian Sarge to Ubuntu Hoary. Using free, Debian reported me correctly as having 2Gb of RAM. Ubuntu reports 900Mb. What could be wrong, and where could I go to get my memory back!?12:27
goofriderthe proper way to compile mplayer is download the source DEB, and compile and make your own DEB12:27
jono_oops sorry12:27
jono_for the repeat12:27
k31thgoofrider: yeah :S12:28
NermalUpayavir1, install linux-58612:28
Nermalto switch to a 586 kernel with himem support12:28
Upayavir1Nermal: that easy? :-)12:28
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NermalUpayavir1, yah :)12:28
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Nermaloops12:28
ekCohow do i uninstall realplayer? installed to wrong path ><!12:28
NermalI mean install linux-68612:28
NermalI think12:28
eyequeuelibncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses12:28
goofriderekco: how did u install it?12:28
eyequeueclausme:  ^^ it's in main, it should find it12:29
k31thguess ill locate every mplayer file and del it12:29
Nermalthat should install linux kernel and modules12:29
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ekCogoofrider, wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/realplay-10.0.4.750-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin12:29
ekCochmod +x realplay-10.0.4.750-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin12:29
ekCosudo ./realplay-10.0.4.750-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin12:29
ekCoalso how do you install xmms on a 64bit ubuntu setup??12:30
Nermalthere should be an uninstall script in the dir you installed it to12:30
ZambbaHello!12:30
goofriderwell u can just delete the direcotry where  Realplayer was installed to12:30
goofriderI think it installed to /opt/real?????/ by default?12:30
Nermallo Zambba12:30
ZambbaDo I have chance to run Ubuntu on my P200, 32 Mt, 2 Gt hdd, Trident TriImage box?12:30
Nermal/opt/Real* it would seem12:30
NermalZambba, the installer won't like that little ram :|12:31
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Raptoidwhat is windows partition link for ubuntu desktop ?12:31
ekConah it installed to games/realplayer ...12:31
ekCoreally weird.. but anyways12:31
Upayavir1Nermal: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-686. Does that sound right? Running on a Centrino notebook.12:31
NermalRaptoid, ?12:31
goofriderekCO: there's a realplayer package on Ubuntu Backports, might be a better package cuz it may conform to Debian/Ubuntu's file system better12:31
NermalUpayavir1, yes.. but just doing apt-get install linux-686 will get you the kernel and the modules / and the restricted modules12:31
Raptoidwhat windows partition linking ubuntu12:31
Nermalits like a wrapper package12:31
Raptoidsorry litle speak english12:31
Upayavir1Nermal: fab12:31
NermalUpayavir1, you can then do apt-get uninstall linux-386 if you want12:32
Nermalremove even12:32
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Upayavir1k12:32
ekCohmm good where can i grab this?12:32
Upayavir1after rebooting :-)12:32
NermalRaptoid, /windows/C ?12:32
ekCohow do you get xmms installed on a 64bit system aswell.. this is annoying as ><!12:32
goofrideralso if u apt-get install linux-686, it'll upgrade to the latest version of kernel next time you do an upgrade12:32
NermalUpayavir1, bah.. you wimp ;)12:32
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Nermalgoofrider, indeed :)12:32
goofriderlinx-686 tracks the latest release of kernel + friends12:33
goofrideru know.... I can't type for shit12:34
ekCowhen installing xmms i get this problem..12:34
ekCoPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:34
ekCoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:34
ekCois only available from another source12:34
ekCoE: Package xmms has no installation candidate12:34
goofriderekco: do u have universe and multiverse enabled?12:34
ZambbaHow much does the Ubuntu installer need ram?12:34
Nermalabout 64 mb12:34
ekCouniverse yes.. but not multi...12:35
Nermalthe installer seems to insist on formatting the swap space during install12:35
Nermalmeaning it wipes out half the install process if you have to use swap during install12:35
goofriderwell.... XMMS is in main anyways12:35
ZambbaCan I use all Debian package mirrors with Ubuntu's apt ?12:35
mvirkkilHas anyone had odd harddrive stalling problems?12:35
NermalZambba, you can.. but they may break things12:35
ekCorm -rf to delete things work in ubuntu?12:35
AmaranthZambba: If you want to seriously break things, sure.12:35
NermalekCo, naturally :)12:35
AmaranthekCo: Of course.12:35
liableZambba: definetley not recommended12:36
goofriderZambba: Techincally yes, but u shouldn't do that unless u know what u'r doing12:36
NermalekCo, tried beep-media-player ?12:36
ZambbaHow many package mirrors are usable with Ubuntu?12:36
NermalekCo, gtk2 port of xmms :)12:36
mvirkkilLike doing 'ls' is causing stuff like 'pio timeout' 'dma write failed' etc?12:36
ekConope12:36
goofriderZambba: if u have to ask, dont12:36
Nermalit's nice..12:36
ekCois it apt-get plausible?12:36
Nermalyah12:36
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Nermalthough I'm not sure for 64 bit12:36
ekCodl;'ing12:37
ekCosoon will find out eh12:37
ekCothis is annoying me so much, i need to build a 32bit layer..12:37
ekCobut i heard its an arsewipe to do...12:37
goofriderZambba; actually, it's OK as long as you're pulling from  unoffical repos for unstable12:37
ekCoapparantly gentoo has 32bit already built in or something?12:37
goofriderand don't include the offical DEbian depo12:37
ekCohah Nermal, it works on 64bit :)12:38
ekConaturally :D12:38
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NermalekCo, :D12:38
Nermalmm.. this is a nice channel12:38
Nermalquestions aren't too hard :)12:38
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ekCowheres the mouse config in x11?12:38
goofriderXorg.conf?12:39
goofriderLMAO12:39
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jacobedo you all thik there is there a better mp3 player for ubuntu than mplayer?12:39
Nermalerm.. well. it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf :|12:39
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NermalekCo, what do you want to change ?12:39
Nermaljacobe, sure... mplayer is more of a video player12:39
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jacobewhat do you recommend for music and video?12:39
ekComx510 settings to enable mouse 4, 512:39
goofrideramarok is popular for KDE12:40
Nermaljacobe, winamp lookalikes are xmms and beep-media-player (gtk2) | itunes lookalikes include rhythmbox and muine12:40
jacobeim using gnome12:40
Nermaljacobe, gnome desktop also includes totem, which is quite nice12:40
ekConot really12:40
goofriderTotem is the offically support media player in Ubuntu12:40
Nermaltotem can also cook your cpu with visualisations12:40
ekCototem in normal install doesn't allow .avi, let down ><!12:40
jacobecan toten work with m4as etc.12:41
NermalekCo, it does. install totem-xine12:41
Nermaland that will remove totem-gstreamer12:41
jacobetotam-xine?12:41
Nermalthen totem will play things using the w32codecs12:41
AmaranthekCo: avi is a container, gstreamer handles that12:41
AmaranthekCo: It might not handle certain things people shove into that container though12:41
nubiousok here's a question12:41
goofriderI though Totem=gstreamer can use w32codecs as well12:41
Nermalyah.. totem-xine will play the same stuff mplayer will.. wmvs, divx, all that.. using w32codecs12:41
ekCoand apt-get is plausable with gstreamer..12:41
Nermalgoofrider, I've not got it working :|12:42
goofriderI'm using Totem-Gstremer with w32codecs, no problem12:42
ekCobecause i got frustrated while trying to watch some demos lol12:42
NermalekCo, apt-get install totem-xine :)12:42
nubiousif I got the VNC server running and stuff within gnome, is there anyway I can have it run at like root level so it will share the LOGIN screen?12:42
ekCobtw wheres the mouse config?12:42
NermalekCo, we've said12:42
Amaranthgstreamer has pitfdll to use windows dlls12:42
Nermalerm.. well. it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf :|12:42
goofrideryeah it took me a while to figure out what I need (I'm a n00b myself)12:42
NermalAmaranth, ah12:42
Amaranthbtw, using w32codecs is _illegal_ unless you own a copy of windows that you're not using12:42
ekCoE: Broken packages12:42
Amaranthheck, it might even be then12:42
ekCoah cheers12:43
ekCosame as my old gentoo ><!12:43
NermalAmaranth, oh no!12:43
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NermalI need food :|12:43
nubiousillegal?12:43
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nubiouswho said using windows codecs is illegal?12:43
Nermalaye.. dlls innit12:43
goofrideramaranth: w32codecs is probably incompatible with GPL/LGPL12:43
nubiousI have like 18 copies of window skicking around..  someone can use one of my copies if they want.12:44
goofriderso it'll be illegal to even use it on Linux, technically12:44
ekCohmm Nermal, beep-media-player cracks the poop when trying to play a file..12:44
ekCoxmms would be much handier ><!12:44
Nermalerm.. doh ?12:44
Amaranthgoofrider: Doesn't work like that.12:44
Fator_Deeis there an application (graphic) that you can make on ISO-file with?12:44
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dolnyanybody using ati on hoary hedgehog 5.04?12:44
Fator_Deemaybe gnomebaker/graveman?12:44
NermalFator_Dee, or xcdroast12:45
Nermalthough thats not too intuative12:45
dolnyanybody using ati on hoary hedgehog 5.04? theres have to be sopmeone ;/12:45
goofriderI heard th ATI linux driver is crap12:45
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ikhi12:45
dolnyyep12:45
Nermalthe windows ati drivers are pretty shite too12:45
iki have problems playing mpg files on totem12:45
AmaranthFator_Dee: Go to the CD/DVD Creator in nautilus, drag and drop the files you want on the CD, and choose to burn it12:45
dolnywell12:45
dolnyDOES ANYBODY USE ATI on UBUNTU ?;12:45
dolny:P12:45
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Nermalik apt-get install gstreamer0.8-all ?12:46
AmaranthFator_Dee: choose file image12:46
dolnyi dont want to discuss whether they are ok or not;] 12:46
ikNermal ok12:46
goofriderik: did u install MPEG codecs? maybe the libavcodec package?12:46
Nermalik, maybe ;)12:46
Amaranthdolny: Yes, but I use the open source driver.12:46
ikgoofrider nop12:46
dolnyamaranth12:46
dolnyis it any good12:46
dolnyi mean the speed12:46
dolny?12:46
ikgoofrider who so i install that?12:46
Fator_DeeAmaranth: what if I don't use nautilus :-\ (XFCE)12:46
ekCohmm how do i update my apt-get shite?12:46
nubioushey how do I go about making another gnome essiosn so I can have my VNC on my remote computer, but someone can still log in locally?  I know Warty had it easy done12:46
Nermalgoofrider, what I don't get is why these aren't installed by default12:47
goofriderik: I think most of the open source video codecs are in multiverse due to licensing/patent issues12:47
NermalekCo, apt-get update12:47
AmaranthFator_Dee: gnomebaker? :)12:47
Fator_Deebut gnomebaker can do that? or graveman12:47
k31thBurgundavia: where was that mplayer package to ?12:47
ikok12:47
goofrideru might need multiverse enabled, possibly marillat too12:47
Fator_DeeAmaranth: ok, thanks, I'll look (more deeply :-p) to those programs12:47
Upayavir1Nermal: free -m shows 2027 :-) Thank you very much!12:47
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NermalUpayavir1, :)12:47
Amaranthenabling marillat should be considered bad for your health12:48
goofriderk31th: u'r talking about where apt-get installed it to? or where YOU installed it to with make install when u compiled from source?12:48
NermalUpayavir1, another uk bod.. I suspected as much when you said "fab" :)12:48
k31thno im talking which respository is it at12:48
k31thi just removed mplayer that i compiled by hand12:48
Upayavir1Nermal: do I make it that obvious? I'm in North London. U?12:48
Nermalk31th, mplayer is at several12:48
k31thk?12:48
NermalUpayavir1, cardiff atm.. lived in guildford when I worked for suse12:49
k31thaahh Guildford12:49
Nermalk31th, tried ubuntuguide.org ? :)_12:49
AmaranthHey, a former SuSE employee is using Ubuntu. That's got to say something.12:49
cyphaseargh, i hate designing for IE12:49
dolnyAmaranth: please check your query12:49
goofriderAmaranth: it only means he doesn't work there anymore12:49
k31this that where Ford comes from on hitch hiker gide to the galaxy :p12:49
ikwhats the comand to sun sympatic or that?12:50
iksymantic12:50
k31thNermal: im from Wiltshire12:50
k31thSuse is a pain12:50
goofridersynaptic12:50
ikthanks =)12:50
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goofriderK31th: why is that?12:51
NermalAmaranth, I used gentoo before ubuntu, and suse before that12:51
k31thjust didnt like it12:51
k31thrpm baed :pp12:51
k31thbased12:51
Nermalsuse weren't too happy when I plonked gentoo on our test opterons from AMD :)12:51
k31thNermal: same here12:51
goofriderI've never tried anything but Debian-based distro, so I'm rather ignorant of other distros12:51
Nermalgoofrider, rpm hell12:52
k31thahh goofrider stay that way12:52
goofriderGentoo is a constant moving target12:52
k31thi have to use RHE at work and it sux12:52
Nermal:/12:52
goofriderYeah... I was tempted by the RPM devil cause I kinda **need*** JPackage12:52
k31thi HATE rpms and i HATE YUM12:52
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goofriderJava support or the lack thereof)  in Debian/Ubuntu is embarassing12:52
k31thcant u use that alien program to convert it12:52
lesshastedoes ubuntu do its own security patches or does it use debian made packages?12:53
Nermalk31th, you can.. but it's not guarenteed to work12:53
goofriderwell I don't know... it might not follow our FHS still12:53
k31thNermal:  i see12:53
Nermallesshaste, it's own12:53
goofriderand it won't have auto dependancy resolution12:53
k31this this correct12:53
lesshasteNermal, thx12:53
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k31thdeb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiuniverse12:53
Nermallesshaste, afaik12:53
goofriderless: Ubuntu maintain its own repo and patches12:53
odysseywhy is there no updates for firefox when the latest version os 1.0.4?12:53
goofriderthough it tracks Debian Sid for changes12:54
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Amaranthgoofrider: That's not Ubuntu's fault.12:54
goofriderOdy: because Hoary is **frozen**12:54
goofrideruse http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/  there's Firefox 1.0.3 backport there12:54
Nermalgah.. my stomach is digesting itself12:54
goofriderAma:....? Did I blame Ubuntu or Debian?12:55
odysseygoofrider, but the updates to firefox contain fixes to major security fixes surely these packages should be in hoary-security?12:55
Nermalodyssey, now that hoary is frozen (ie: released) you will only get security updates to packages .. not version updates12:55
goofriderI'm just stating the facts12:55
Nermalodyssey, I imagine they will patch 1.0.312:55
goofriderOdyessey: Good point.12:55
Nermalso you will get firefox-1.0.3-unbuntu<newbuild>12:56
odysseyNermal, the current version with no updates it 1.0.212:56
ekCohmm12:56
Nermalwhat ubuntu build ?12:56
ekCoi've added all repositories but still cant get xmms installed ><12:56
ekCoargh!12:56
lesshastethere is no version updating even unoffically?12:56
lesshastethat is bad bad bad12:56
odysseyNermal, 512:57
Nermalso that number will go up with security fixes12:57
scorpix_zcat /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/changelog.Debian.gz | head -n1612:57
lesshastegoofrider, is there no java for ubuntu did you say?12:57
Nermallesshaste, well no.. it's the same as all release based distros12:57
scorpix_to see the last changes of firefox12:57
Nermallesshaste, http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre12:57
liableekCo: apt-cache search xmms?12:57
lesshasteNermal, no that isn't right. Fedora has loads of 3rd party repositories that have version updates... for example12:57
goofriderno I'm just saying the UNOFFICAL support in the RPM world is better than the UNOFFICIAL support in Ubuntu/Debian12:58
Nermallesshaste, so has debian..12:58
petemcgoofrider: you have empircal evidence?12:58
liablegoofrider: yeah, but from unknown sources12:58
Nermallesshaste, that doesn't mean they are supported or will work12:58
ekColiable12:58
ekCowhole bunch of stuff came up..12:58
goofriderJpackage is not an UNKOWN source12:58
goofriderhttp://jpackage.org/12:58
lesshasteNermal, and ubuntu?12:59
odysseyscorpix_, thanks12:59
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liableekCo: install it :)12:59
lesshasteNermal, what do you mean by supported or work?12:59
ekCoerm12:59
ekCohow? haha12:59
goofriderlesshaste: Unofficial RPMs are VERY POORLY packaged12:59
lesshasteNermal, all software is supported by some people and not by others12:59
goofriderI would count on them if I were u12:59
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lesshastegoofrider, that is really not true. Some are some aren't. You choose your packager according to your tastes.12:59
Nermallesshaste, what package do you need ?12:59
lesshastegoofrider, the same way you choose your distro. Some distros are bad too01:00
Nermalthat is a newer version01:00
liableekCo: hmmm, apt-get install xmms?01:00
lesshasteNermal, It is not a specific package I am referring to01:00
Nermalliable, he's running 64 bit :|01:00
ekCothats what i've been doing01:00
liableoooh01:00
Nermallesshaste, then why do you need updates ?01:00
Nermallesshaste, maybe complain when you can't do something because a package is too old to do it01:00
lesshasteNermal, in general? I often like to have new features.. like everyone else :)01:00
goofriderlesshaste: It's been my exprience that 3rd party RPMs tends to not  follow PSB/FHS as well as third=party DEBs01:00
goofriderbut that's just my experiences01:01
anglophobehow do i make my linux wireless connect to a wep network?01:01
Nermallesshaste, then use breezy in a few months, or development branches of debian01:01
lesshastegoofrider, this maybe true in general.01:01
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lesshasteNermal, The point is to be able to add what you want without changing the distro completely01:01
lesshasteNermal, new firefox for example01:01
lesshasteNermal, or the latest mplayer01:02
goofriderNermal: u should real Ubuntu Backports' mission statement01:02
liableekCo: I think you need to do the 32bit chroot thing maybe?01:02
goofrider" to be able to add what you want without changing the distro completely" were their (almosy) exact words01:02
lesshaste3rd party repos are a really good thing01:02
goofrideru shoudl **read***01:02
lesshastedespite the fact that some are crap :)01:02
lesshasteit's like saying we shouldn01:02
lesshaste't have more shops as some sell crap products01:03
lesshasteconsumers do have *some* responsibility!01:03
goofriderwhat is the arguement again?01:03
lesshastegoofrider, no idea :)01:03
Nermallesshaste, use unofficial repositories then01:03
liablelesshaste: install fedora then :|01:03
lesshastegoofrider, just wanted to know about 3rd party repos for ubuntu01:03
Nermalthere are plenty for debian / ubuntu01:03
lesshasteliable, I am moving *from* fedora :)01:04
Nermallesshaste, tell you what..01:04
goofriderless: there are a few01:04
goofriderand we're still nre, more will come01:04
Nermallesshaste, you make a repository of all the packages you want for ubuntu, and mantain and support them01:04
lesshastegoofrider, good point01:04
Nermalthen we won't have this problem any more01:04
lesshasteNermal, no server money :(01:04
goofrideras u can use most 3rd-party unstable packages01:04
Nermallesshaste, sourceforge ?01:04
lesshasteNermal, can they do repos?01:04
NermalI'm not sure..01:05
liablelesshaste: install source packages if you must, or use alien, or use debian :)01:05
lesshasteNermal, I didn't realise. I thought you got cvs/web access etc.01:05
NermalI'm sure someone will offer bandwidth :)01:05
goofriderlessheste: just submit your new custom packages to Ubuntu Backport. They have a staging area that anyone can commit to01:05
lesshasteliable, I didn't really mean just for me :)01:05
lesshasteNermal, That would be cool if they did01:05
lesshastegoofrider, excellent.. thx01:05
liablelesshaste: your point is then?01:05
lesshasteliable, I am not making a point/argument. Just asking and chatting01:05
goofriderless: and u can also pursuit a MOTU to accept the package to Universe01:06
lesshasteMOTU?01:06
lesshaste(new from fedora.. sorry)01:06
goofriderbut I think backports is the best rout, cuz the packages can get tested b4 it move into universe01:06
lesshastesounds very good01:06
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goofriderMOTU = Master of the Universe01:06
anglophobeanyone?01:06
lesshasteah :)01:06
goofriderUniverse maintainers01:06
Nermalanglophobe, use the gnome net config too01:07
Nermaltool *01:07
Nermalor do iwconfig wlan0 enc <wepkey>01:07
ekColiable, how do i install the 32bit chroot lol?01:07
goofriderless: Read the debian New Maintainer Guide and the Packaging Guide on Ubuntu Wiki01:07
anglophobeermm I using kbuntu on the live cd.. want to make sure that my wireless card works.01:07
anglophobeNermal: do I need to inclue the ESSID or anything?01:08
liableekCo: sorry dude, no idea, dont have a 64, google should lead you in the right direction though. Just google 32 bit chroot01:08
ekCohow do you force a cdrom to unmount.. ie ut2004 installation lol01:08
Nermalanglophobe, erm.. you can do01:08
Nermalanglophobe, iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid> enc <wepkey>01:09
goofriderlesshaste: There's a huge community around Debian/Ubuntu as well. Remember that what's consider 3rd party packages in Feoora is commonly in the official repo in Debian/Ubuntu01:09
Nermalthen do iwconfig and see if it's got the access point mac01:09
lesshastegoofrider, thx. I don't know much it turns out.01:09
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lesshasteNermal, :)01:09
Nermal:)01:09
anglophobethansk nermal, i'll try that tonight when I get home from work.01:10
lesshastegoofrider, so ubuntu can use mepis deb packages too? e.g. the acrobat 7 one etc.01:10
goofriderbecause Fedora was Red Hat, and Red Hat had strict control of its repo01:10
jiyuu0ekCo, force unmount: umount -l /media/cdrom01:10
ekCocheers01:10
jiyuu0i do that often :)01:10
goofriderso that's why there was a huge third-party RPM community01:10
goofriderin Debian world, these third-party packages often get accpeted to Sid directly01:10
lesshastegoofrider, fedora has a nice selection of 3rd party repos depending on how crazy/risky you are01:10
anglophobeanyone have experience setting up ubuntu/kubuntu on an ibm x31?01:10
lesshastegoofrider, for example.. for bleeding madness use atrpms01:11
lesshastegoofrider, things in freshrpms.net just work.. etc01:11
goofriderless: There's a Arcobat 7 DEB in Ubuntu Backports01:11
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lesshastegoofrider, thx! Where do the things of dubious legality go?01:11
lesshastethe multimedia stuff etc.01:11
goofriderlesshaste: That's why there's debian Unstable (Sid) and Experiental/Staging01:11
goofriderDebian's repo is more centralized and community-driven01:12
lesshastegoofrider, but can you take one package from unstable and put it in your stable set up?01:12
khirshahi, i'm triyng to get my copy of the ubuntu hoary repositories by debmirror01:12
goofriderSure, but I won't recommend it to a noob to pull directly from Debian Sid01:12
khirshabut if i insert the universe section i get 2 error01:12
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lesshastegoofrider, ok.. that's what the 3rd party repos are really good for. You just take the one thing you want01:13
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khirsha[ 28%]  Getting: pool/universe/g/gcc-3.4/g77-3.4_3.4.3-9ubuntu4_amd64.deb failed:Failed to open file.01:13
khirsha[ 28%]  Getting: pool/universe/g/gcc-3.4/g77-3.4_3.4.3-9ubuntu4_i386.deb failed:Failed to open file.01:13
lesshastegoofrider, Where do the things of dubious legality go? It's livna.org in fedora01:13
goofriderlesshaste: For legally grey packages, there'll usually be unoffical third-party places for them (like Marillat). Check apt-get.org01:13
lesshastethx01:13
goofriderwhich is a third-party apt direcotry like freshrpms01:14
goofriderless: makeing your own DEB from source is pretty eay too. I;m learning that right now01:14
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odysseygoofrider, you will find that you dont need third party directorys alot of the time because pretty much everything is in the universe repo01:14
nubiouslater guys01:14
goofridernite nub01:14
ekCohmm01:15
odysseygoofrider, are you reading a guide for creating a .deb?01:15
goofriderodyssesy: that's what I've been saying to lessshaste. That what usually exist in third-party ROM repo are included in universe/multiverse and Debian Sid01:15
lesshastegoofrider, marillat :) Now I am happy !01:15
lesshasteis there a checkinstall equivalent?01:16
goofriderOdessey. I'm reading Debian New Main Guide and the Ubuntu Packaging Process (I think I'm just submitting to Backports though)01:16
ekCois transgaming*.deb obtainable somehow.. or is it costly..01:16
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danielsekCo: costly01:16
lesshasteIn other words something that makes a .deb package from "./configure;make;make install"01:16
ekCoargh!01:16
goofriderlesshaste dh_make01:16
ekCoisn't older releases free?01:16
Fator_Deegoofrider: from where are you learning to make .debs?01:16
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goofriderjsut read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide01:16
lesshastegoofrider, cool!01:16
Fator_Deegoofrider: could you give me the url?01:17
lesshasteI am still waiting for my free cds in the post :)01:17
goofriderask google01:17
Fator_Dee:-<01:17
lesshasteme?01:17
lesshasteoh ok01:17
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goofrideror apt-get install maint-guide01:18
Fator_Deelong guide :-o01:18
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lesshastelast thing.. is there a net install for ubuntu? Couldn't seem to see one01:18
goofriderhttp://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/01:18
lesshasteIdeally I would like to boot off a floppy or even make kernel image on my current setup and install ubuntu over the net01:18
goofriderremember to read the Debian FHS (Filesystem Hierachy Standard) Guide too01:18
goofriderit tends you what should go where01:19
ekCosudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap isn't working, any ideas why?01:19
goofriderit tells u what should go where01:19
goofriderekco: do u have universe enabled?01:19
ekCothink so..01:20
goofriderekco: what is the error?01:20
ekConot found..01:20
goofriderlesshaste: use Debootstrap01:20
goofriderekco: apt-get update????01:20
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goofrider#apt-cache search dchroot01:21
goofriderand see if it's there01:21
goofriderin the repo01:21
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goofriderLesshaste: Google for Debootstrap and u can find looks of guides01:22
lesshastegoofrider, ok.very interesting!01:22
ekCotried it goofrider01:22
MabusHi, I'm trying to compile a kernel module, but it says "Inappropriate build environment: you wanted to use gcc version 3.3.6 while kernel attempts to use gcc version 4.0.1.", anyone know how to fix that ?01:22
MabusI've done "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3"01:22
lesshastegoofrider, I have noticed you don't really seem to distingush debian from ubuntu.01:22
goofriderMaus: r u using the Kernel Source Packages?01:22
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Mabusgoofrider: no01:22
goofriderMabus: Debian/Ubuntu has it's own way of handle kernel/module compiles01:23
Mabusgoofrider: yes .. this isn't an official kernel module01:23
goofriderMabus: download the kernel source/header packeages using apt-get01:23
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blakehelow01:23
blakei have a problem01:23
ekCogoofrider, any other ideas?01:23
jeroen_helow01:24
goofriderMabus: and use make-kpkg to make kernel DEBs. The result is a custom kernel package that u can install( and manage) using APT01:24
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blakei'm new to ubntu and linux and i need someone if they can to help me01:24
Mabusgoofrider: that's how I did fglrx, yes .. but this is vmware01:24
goofriderlesshaste: Technically, Ubuntu is a branch of Deiban01:24
lesshastegoofrider, the extra trick I need is to install ubuntu on top of my existing system. In other words I need to load the whole system into RAM to do this01:25
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Mabusblake: please just ask01:25
blakei'm just trying to mount a ntfs hard drive so i can get some files off it and be done with is and i can't seem to figure ou t how to go about it01:25
lesshastegoofrider, thx for the help.01:25
lesshastegoofrider, I will bootstrap away01:25
blakei've ben on fourms and browsed sourceforge01:25
ekCoargh anyone know how i can get dchroot debootstrap installed, i keep getting an error, saying it cant be found and no packages.. i've updated etc01:25
Mabusblake: I doubt that, there are several posts about this on the forums.01:26
blakewell01:26
goofriderlesshaste: Well then make a boot floppy from your old system if u need to boot from that kernel01:26
Mabusblake: mount -t ntfs /dev/device /mnt/point01:26
blakei didn't go to ubuntu01:26
goofriderMabus: I'm not sure but I think u can try to make your own module0assistant enhanced module using some tools01:27
blakethat didn't work01:27
Mabusgoofrider: I'll probably figure it out, thanks01:27
goofriderMabus:wait.. I'm sorry, you said u have GCC version issue01:27
goofriderI missed that part.  LOL01:28
Mabusgoofrider: yes01:28
ekCoerm isn't transgaming* just the cedega-4.3.1.deb?01:28
Mabus:P01:28
MabusekCo: and the GUI tool ... click2play or something.01:28
ekCoso you can work just off cedega though?01:28
goofriderblake: is ntfsprogs installed? it might not be installed by default01:28
MabusekCo: yes01:28
goofriderMabus: I'll check on the GCC issue01:28
jeroen_Backports server slow?01:28
blakei'll see01:28
Mabusgoofrider: nice, thanks01:28
blakebrb01:28
liableblake: type 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'01:28
jeroen_downloading @ 6243B/s now, form backports01:29
liableblake: see a ntfs partition?01:29
ekCohah01:29
blakeDevice Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:30
blake/dev/hda1   *           1        3497    28089621   83  Linux01:30
blake/dev/hda2            3498        3649     1220940    5  Extended01:30
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ekCoseems cedega does work on 64bit01:30
ekCowithout a chroot ><!01:30
ekCoworking for me right now :o01:30
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ekCointeresting :o01:30
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liableekCo: got xmms working?01:31
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goofriderMabus: not sure what I can do (not very good at comiling my own stuff). I guess you need to ceck your make files. Wish I could be mroe helpful01:31
liableblake: 'lsmod' any ntfs looking modules?01:31
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ekColiable, nope, but i managed to get cedega to run :o01:31
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blakeyou were right01:32
blakeit wasn't installed01:32
blakei am installing it right now01:32
blakenow what should i type01:33
Mabusgoofrider: alright, thanks01:33
blakeshould i be able to find it01:33
goofridersudo apt-get install ntfsprogs???01:33
blakei didn't have  ntfsprogs01:33
blakei just got it tho01:33
goofriderMabus: At least now I know what it watch out for when I install VMware01:34
goofriderLOL01:34
goofriderwhat **to** watch out for01:34
Mabus:)01:35
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Mabusproblem is that the ubuntu stock kernel is compiled with gcc401:35
seb128it is not01:35
blakedid i not need to get that program?01:35
goofriderdid u try using automake and ./configure to change the build enivronemnt?01:35
blakeum....01:35
blakei'm new01:35
Mabusseb128: " *** Inappropriate build environment: you wanted to use gcc version 3.3.6 while kernel attempts to use gcc version 4.0.1."01:36
goofriderthat was for Mabus01:36
ekCohow is unreal tournament 99 installed in ubuntu?01:36
ekCothere is no setup or nothing, but its a native game to linux.01:36
seb128Mabus:01:36
seb128   * Force the kernel to use gcc-3.4:01:36
seb128     - Add patchmakefile_force-gcc3.4.dpatch.01:36
seb128     - Add Build-Dep: gcc-3.4.01:36
seb128from 2.6.11.91-1.101:36
goofriderheh u rock01:37
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blakeum01:38
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ekCofor a laugh i got worms world party installed on a 64bit system01:39
threatlol01:39
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threatI am trying to get Ragnarok working under Linux :P01:40
ekCohehe01:40
threatno luck with wine01:40
threatgoing to try with crossover office now :)01:40
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ekCoi cant wait to play ut2007 :P01:40
ekCoi've got exclusive pics from midway etc01:40
threat:O01:40
Bazzi:O01:40
Bazzileak them01:40
ekCoand its native to linux01:40
threatwill that have linux support like the last one?01:40
ekCoindeed01:40
threatw00t01:41
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Bazzishow us ze pics!01:41
blakehey does anyone know how to work that app01:41
ekCosome are on beyond unreal anyway01:41
Bazzi:p01:41
ekCoyeah apparantly, their creating a full dvd disc on the install..01:41
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threatwhat app?01:41
ekCoso its a full linux disc.01:41
k_defthave ubuntu another name01:41
k_deft?01:41
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ekCoand it auto runs according to epic.01:41
threatw00t01:41
threatk_deft, ?01:41
threatk_deft, kubuntu?01:42
Bazziits still a year away so meh01:42
k_deftsrry nothhing01:42
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Mabusaha01:42
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Raskallhmm.. wonder if my hoary cd's are in the mail yet.. *sigh*01:43
Mabusgoofrider, seb128: I just replaced the symbolic link /usr/bin/gcc (which earlier pointed to /usr/bin/gcc4) with a link to /usr/bin/gcc-3.301:43
seb128ugly01:43
Nermalno gcc-config ?01:44
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Mabusvoila, vmware01:44
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ZambbaWhat are the system requirements for (K)ubuntu? :$01:44
NermalZambba, should be on kubuntu.org01:44
ekCoah what the? .transgaming isn't found..01:44
ekCohow can this be, when im running it to install apps!?01:44
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NermalZambba, or not.. I dunno.. 700mhz cpu, 128 mb ram ?01:45
Nermalminimum...01:45
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Nermalkde and gnome are both rather heavy01:46
blakehey yall how do i get to the ubuntu forums01:46
blake??01:46
Nermalforums.ubuntulinux.org ?01:46
Nermalat a guess01:46
Raskallwww.ubuntuforums.org01:46
ZambbaHow much does (K)ubuntu take hdd space?01:46
Nermald0h01:46
NermalZambba, depends what you install01:47
Nermaldefault is probably 1.5 - 2 gig01:47
Nermalkde alone is about 500 mb01:47
blakei had a questin but noone could answer it so i'm gona try the forums01:47
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Nermalblake, what was the question ? :)01:47
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hector_Hello everybody. Im From mexico. Im a debian user , now i decide to try ubuntu distro. :D01:49
Zambbahello hector_ :)01:49
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hector_Hello Zambba where are you from ?01:49
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Zambbahector_: From Finland01:49
looksausis there something like pycairo for ubuntu01:49
looksaus?01:49
jeroen_what is pycairo?01:50
Nermalquite01:50
blakeooh01:50
verden01is skype avalaible for ubuntu?01:50
Nermalverden01, yah01:50
Raskallverden01: yup01:50
snaderverden01: yes01:50
Nermalsee http://ubuntuguide.org for how to install it01:50
snader(:P)01:50
blakeit's probbally on the furm but how do i mount a ntfs drive01:50
ZambbaOkay. I've decided to try out (K)ubuntu. I have now 2 NTFS partitions on my computer (20 + 40 GB). Can Ubuntu's installer make my 20 GB ntfs drive to 15 GB?01:50
looksausjeroen_, python bindings for the cairo graphics system01:50
Nermalhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#skype no less01:51
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verden01cool thanx  but i have an AMD64?01:51
Nermalumm.. I dunno about that01:51
larsrohdinmaybe a bit offtopic, but is there a good program for making webpages? similar to Front page or dreamweaver?01:51
Nermallarsrohdin, nvu.com01:52
Nermalhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#nvu01:52
larsrohdinis that open source?01:52
Nermalyes01:52
Nermalgpl01:52
verden01k01:52
larsrohdinnice, ill check it out, thanks01:52
Nermaldeveloped by the linspire folks01:52
Nermaluses the mozilla gecko stuff01:52
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hector_I want to invite you all to get a lieh.net proyect.. that is an email open source proyect, unlimited GB for abount " 1500 " users01:53
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Nermalhector_, I find gmail fine :)01:54
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hector_jajajjaja yup i know gmail its find but im talking about open source , you can enter on the cpanel interface , ask for code , modify , and be on the lieh.net staff01:54
goofridernvue roxs01:54
hector_thats the cool stuff :D01:54
larsrohdinanyone from sweden in here?01:55
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goofriderit's available for win32 and os x too01:55
Zambbalarsrohdin: Almost ;)01:55
larsrohdinZambba, lol...01:55
thenukelarsrohdin: near enough, why bother asking?01:55
larsrohdinever visited www.sweclockers.com?01:55
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goofriderit's in Debian Sid01:55
wdhZambba, no, it cannot..01:55
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Zambbasad :(01:55
wdhZambba, that is scheduled for the next release..01:55
Zambbaokay :)01:56
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hector_Do you know any geekradio ?01:56
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wdhZambba, you might wanna consider using knoppix/qtparted for that01:56
hector_or something like that ? im boring01:56
Zambbawdh: Is that easy?01:56
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ZambbaI just download Knoppix and do the thing with it and then I can install Ubuntu?01:57
Hans_de_ZwartI installed ubuntu for the first time and cannot get my network interface working correctly. does anybody know what I could try?01:57
jeroen_Gparted is easy, I guess Qtparted is the same program but for KDE?01:57
wdhin knoppix you have to run a root-terminal.. and from that just run 'qtparted'01:57
wdhjeroen_, pretty much01:57
Zambbaokay01:57
ZambbaHow big is Knoppix?01:57
Nermaljeroen_, not exactkyl01:58
hector_What type of connection you have ADSL ?01:58
goofriderI use Sysrescd for that01:58
ZambbaI sadly have only 512/512 kbit adsl01:58
NermalZambba, 700mb .. you run it from the cd01:58
wdhZambba, one cd.. so be patient01:58
hector_try pppeoconf in term01:58
Hans_de_ZwartZambba: I did it this morning on wdh's advice and it works perfeclty01:58
goofriderSysresqcd has LVM, NTFS, HFS, and many other things01:58
hector_fuck oe i mean01:58
hector_:D01:58
goofriderand smaller (like 200MB)01:58
drcodedd2I can clone my hdd to other hdd ?01:59
Zambbagoofrider: So I can use that to make my ntfs partition smaller?01:59
drcodedd2like mirror?01:59
goofriderdrco: use partimage01:59
goofriderif u'r doing a sector-level copy01:59
drcodedd2thanx01:59
goofriderfor mirror (file-level) use rysnc, rsnapshot, or many other tools01:59
drcodedd2it work good /01:59
drcodedd2?01:59
jeroen_Zammba, it is doable to d/l with 31202:00
goofriderdrc: not sure. I heard it's gr8 though02:00
wdhdrcodedd2, dd will work just fine if you want an exact clone02:00
drcodedd2I Have install arakie backup software , I install 30 days trayll02:00
goofriderdrc: partimage can even run as server so u can image to a remote server02:00
larsrohdinNermal, ive followed the guide, then what? what command starts the program?02:00
wdhdrcodedd2, dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb202:00
drcodedd2how I can unisntall it02:00
drcodedd2it dosnt come with deb02:00
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ZambbaIs this good partition scheme: 15 Gt ntfs for WinXP, 14 Gt ext3 for Ubuntu, 1 Gt swap for Ubuntu and rest of disk (some 30 GB) fat32 for workfiles?02:01
ZambbaGt = GB02:01
drcodedd2yes02:01
factorx1 gb swap is too much imho02:01
drcodedd2but dd the dest hdd it will do boot from it ?02:01
goofriderzambba: I'd put /boot and /usr  on their on parts02:02
malte`14GB for Ubuntu is a bit too much IMHO :|02:02
goofriderdrc: you'll have to boot from CD, chroot to the new part and run install-grub02:02
ZambbaDoes the fat32 partition show as /dev/hda4 or something as stupid?02:03
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drcodedd2and if I use partimage?02:03
goofriderRTFM re: grub02:03
drcodedd2it will also boot automticly from dest , I Mean if I switch between the hdd?02:03
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goofriderpartimage image the ENITRE DRIVE i think..... but if u image each parition seprately, u'll still have to do an install-drub02:04
larsrohdinNermal, you here?02:04
wdhdrcodedd2, what is it you want?? make a backup image of a partition? or replace a harddisk by another one?02:04
drcodedd2k02:04
drcodedd2replace by bigger hdd02:04
thenukefriend of mine has IA-300B telewell ADSL-PCI  :I does anyone happen to know if ubuntu can support this02:04
drcodedd2and boot from the new hdd02:04
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wdhdrcodedd2, then just use dd if=xxx of=xxx02:05
drcodedd2I can then boot from the new hdd?02:05
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larsrohdinok someone else then... i just installed nvu, how do i start it?02:05
drcodedd2or I need to install somthing?02:05
goofriderdrc: maybe it's easier if u dd the whole drive, then extend the partition (using parted), reboot, then resize_ext302:05
drcodedd2k02:06
goofridermake sure u REBOOT after resizing the partition, but u resize_ext302:06
goofriderbefore *** u resize ext302:07
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goofrideru can extend ext3 while the partition is mounted02:07
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goofriderdone it MANY TIMES in LVM  :)02:08
jacobehey sorry but i cant use the debian binary i got from marillat for mplayer on my hoary02:08
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jacobeanyone possibly help me?02:08
goofriderthat depends on the problem   LOL02:09
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snaderjacobe: do you get an error message?02:09
snader"can't use" is a bit vague02:09
jacobei get a error message02:09
jacobei mean it game with three files02:09
jacobetwo gz02:09
jacobeand one called debian-binary02:09
Nermallarsrohdin, ?02:09
jacobeidont know what to do with any of them02:10
NermalI guess nvu starts the program02:10
Nermalor /opt/nvu/nvu ?02:10
Nermalor something like that02:10
goofriderjacob did u add marialliat to your apt sources.list?02:10
jacobeno is that in the /etc02:10
jacobeis that the better way?02:10
goofriderNermel: did u install the DEB from nvu.com? That DEB install to /opt I thinl02:10
Nermalanyone using xchat on ubuntu and know how to fix the "open in existing window" stuff so it actually does and doesn't open a new firefox window02:10
Nermalgoofrider, larsrohdin is the one installing nvu02:11
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larsrohdinNermal, i just followed the guide you sent me...02:11
larsrohdinand im not using gnome. so that gnome-panel thing doesn't help me...02:11
goofriderjaocb:   "deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main"02:11
Amaranthno!!!!!!!!!!!!02:12
Nermallarsrohdin, so there should be a /opt/nvu dir there now02:12
goofrideradd that to your sources.list and use apt-get or synaptic to install whatever u need from marillat02:12
AmaranthIf you're going to be stupid enough to use marillat at least use the testing repo.02:12
larsrohdinNermal, oh, now something happened!=)02:12
jacobeadding unstable is a good idea?02:13
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goofriderAmaranth: maybe u should explain the ramiflicatin of adding Marrilat to sources.list instead of just plain bashing everyone recomending it02:13
larsrohdinNermal, is NVU a worthy competitor to dreamweaver?02:14
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goofriderLars: It's far from Dreamweaver. But it's better than FrontPage02:14
goofriderLOL02:14
cyphase"Wake up and smell the silicon!"02:14
jacobeshould i turn off marrilat by adding a "#" to it after i get mplayer?02:14
AirWaysDoes sources.list work now?02:14
blakei need my files off of e ntfs partition.............but hat's all i want, i don't want o keep th ntfs file sysem but oha nce andhen i wan o chang it o ext3 format.................can anoe help me?02:14
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larsrohdingoofrider, ok... thanks02:14
goofriderJacob: probly a good idea02:14
jacobeok ill try it then for mplayer at least02:15
Amaranthgoofrider: Random breakages because it's for Debian is is tracking Debian. Difficulty upgrading to breezy later because of newer packages gotten from marillat. Probably some more I can't think of right now.02:15
goofriderJacob: I have Marillat testing too, I forgot why02:15
blake???02:15
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blakeis there a program i can use??02:15
goofriderAmaranth: and it'll be any better if they download the DEB from Marilat and install manually? The same version # conflicts apply02:16
Amaranthgoofrider: Exactly. Thus the 'stupid' comment. It's a stupid thing to do.02:16
goofriderThe bottom line is, if u add a third-party repo, the user needs to be responsible for conflicts02:16
Amaranthgoofrider: But they aren't. They expect help here and file bug reports.02:17
goofriderAmaranth: well then maybe Marillat should not even be mENTIONED in the wiki and Ubuntuguide02:17
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Amaranthgoofrider: ubuntuguide is totally unofficial. It's written by a user, not a dev.02:18
Amaranthgoofrider: And the wiki is edittable by all.02:18
goofriderthen maybe YOU should add some warning there?02:18
linuxboysomeone should start a ubuntu version of Marillat02:18
goofriderIf you feel so strongly about it02:18
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Amaranthlinuxboy: The backports folks are going to, iirc. Of course backports have some of the same problems...02:19
dolny:D02:19
dolnyjust wanted to say that i finally got the drivers to work02:19
goofriderlinuxboy: I'm with Amarath on that. Marillat should not be in Ubuntu offcially02:19
dolny:D02:19
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JaneWOMG, can anyone tell me why my firefox windows either hang or close spontaneously suddenly? :(((02:20
goofriderBut people are gonna do what they wanna do no matter how many times you tell them no02:20
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goofriderit's more practical to tell them to do it the safe way02:20
JaneWmakes wiki editing not fun...02:20
jacobenow i dont even know what mplayer package name to enter on apt-get02:20
dolnyif anyone has problems with ati on ubuntu http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&page=1&pp=1002:20
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dolnydoes anybody has the same problem with opera:02:20
dolnywhen i launch it it freezes on the first setup screen02:20
dolny?02:20
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blakegosh is there any way i can get my music files from ntfs that anyone knows of??02:21
Nermalsure02:21
Nermalmount -t ntfs /mnt/hda1 /mountpoint02:21
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jacobei had to compile a separate kernel that could mount the ntfs drive with fedora02:22
jacobenot sure about ubuntu02:22
Nermalnah..02:22
goofriderblake: did u install ntfsprogs?02:22
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Nermalmodprobe ntfs02:22
Nermalthen just mount it02:22
dolnyyou can mount it normally its in the guide02:22
blakeyeah ...just did it do i need to reboot02:22
Nermalsudo modprobe ntfs even02:22
blakewait what ami saying02:22
Nermalblake, don't have to reboot02:22
blakeit's linux02:22
goofrideru don't need to reboot, it's Linux02:22
mindspin;-)02:22
Nermalblake, sudo modprobe ntfs then mount the partition02:22
blakeok02:23
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AirWaysWhere I can get wine emulator?02:23
goofriderapt-get wine02:23
goofriderin universe02:23
blakewhat does that mean02:23
Nermalwhich ?02:23
cyphaseapt-get wine02:23
cyphaseapt-get cheese02:23
cyphaseapt-get pizza02:23
goofrider# sudo apt-get install wine02:23
jeroen_apt-get install picknick02:23
Nermaljeroen_, picnic02:23
jeroen_package picknick not found02:24
Fator_Deein terminal you write "sudo apt-get install programhereyouwanttoinstall" and it install the program for you if it's available02:24
gorilla_Nermal, that's was what i thought... that works much better. :-)02:24
Nermal:)02:24
goofriderapt-get is the package manager in Ubuntu, like yum, up2date, etc.02:24
jeroen_picnic: Picnic is a meta package which's dependencies are: wine, cheese,02:24
goofriderif u prefer, use Synaptic. Which is GUI02:24
blakecan i cpy and paste that02:24
blakeor02:24
jeroen_Nermal: I'm dutch, we call it picknick.. stupid, huh?02:25
blakedo i need to do something diff02:25
Nermaljeroen_, not stupid02:25
blakei've ben trying to do this for hours02:25
Nermalblake, well.. the sudo modprobe ntfs you can copy and paste02:25
mindspinin germany we call iz picknick too02:25
Nermalthen you'll need to mount the drive somewhere, so create a mountpoint..02:25
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gorilla_blake: yes, you can copy and paste apt-get install picnic.02:25
Nermallike mkdir /mnt/music02:25
Nermalthen do mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/music02:25
goofridersudo mkdir02:25
goofridersince /mnt is root-writable only02:26
Nermaland your windows drive should be under /mnt/music02:26
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Nermalaye.. sudo for the mkdir and mount02:26
goofridersudo mount as well02:26
abbas mac-fdisk -l02:26
abbas mkdir /home/USER/OSX02:26
blakeok....02:26
abbasmount -t hfsplus /dev/hda3 /home/abbas/OSX02:26
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blakenow i did that it's just another line02:26
blakeroot@LittleWhiteBox:/home/blake # sudo modprobe ntfs02:27
blakeroot@LittleWhiteBox:/home/blake #02:27
Nermalblake, yes.. that worked then02:27
devazionHi, i installed hoary with standard settings. I have only one (IDE) drive, it has 2 primary partitons (/ and swap) and 1 logical (/home) all using reiserfs. The problem is that it can't boot, I get GRUB error 17.02:27
Nermallinux doesn't want a pat on the back or to inform you every time a tool peforms correctly02:27
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Nermalit's just expected02:27
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Nermalnow make a dir for the mountpoint02:27
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Nermalsudo mkdir /mnt/music or something02:28
blakebrb i need more "blood"02:28
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desplesdadevazion, it may be that grub wasnt installed properly02:28
goofriderdevaz: not sure what error 17 is but u should try booting from CD, chroot the HDD and run install-grub02:28
blakeok back02:28
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goofriderdevaz: did u even get a grub menu BTW?02:29
devaziondesplesda, goofrider, Error 17 means that it can't identify the partition02:29
goofrideroh u must have the wrong stage1.502:29
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goofriderat least the boot sector is OK02:30
blakehey do i make the dir in the computer dir???02:30
blakeor what02:30
goofriderblake u can make it ANYWHERE02:30
devaziongoofrider, the output told me that it made me a menu yeah02:30
mindspinyou could make it anywhere02:30
goofriderdevaz: so the error happens AFTER u picked a kernel?02:30
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Nermalblake, use the command I said02:31
Nermal3 times02:31
NermalI don't mind n00bs but deaf noobs piss me off02:31
blakeum02:31
devaziongoofrider, I really don't know, the installation is pretty much automatic...02:32
blakehow do i make a floder?02:32
danielsNermal: go easy02:32
mindspinmkdir02:32
Nermaldaniels, I am :)02:32
NermalI think I've been rather patient today for the amount of coffee to typing ratio I'm on#02:32
mindspinmkdir = make directory02:32
goofriderdevaz: Generally I use ext2/3 for the /boot so I won't see this kind of problems02:32
Nermaland the fact I've said the same thing 3 times02:32
goofrideranyways, google from "grub error 17"02:32
goofrideru'll find lots of instructions02:33
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goofriderlooks like u need to boot from CD and do a install-grub02:33
Nermalshame all the ops do it badger people who have been helping out, not help out themselves02:33
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cmbrothI used qtparted on my ntfs partition w/o any problems02:33
Nermal:)02:33
eruin|QuaD-_: welcome to the club02:33
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cmbrothSorry, slipped backwards a few hours :)02:33
abbas mac-fdisk -l02:33
Nermalyah.. ntfs resizing has been around for a while02:33
abbasmount -t hfsplus /dev/hda3 /home/abbas/OSX02:33
devaziongoofrider, That might be a sollution. I've already googled it. It means it can't identify the partition...02:33
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Amaranthgoofrider: All the references I can find on the wiki for marillat say it'll break things.02:34
goofriderdevaz: But if u'r gonna go thru that trouble, I recommend u might as well create a tiny /boot with ext202:34
blakeok i think in the midst of all of this i already made like 5 new folders02:34
Nermalblake, I told you to do sudo mkdir /mnt/music02:34
Nermalwhat part of that don't you understand ?02:34
mindspindev, you can try booting knoppix, mmount /mnt/dev/hda1 and vi /etc/fstab02:34
abbasmount -t hfsplus /dev/hdax /home/user/OSX02:35
Nermalthen I told you (twice) to do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/music02:35
Nermalagain, which part is giving you problem02:35
blakeok02:35
devaziongoofrider, Thanks I will go reinstall with ext3 as /... If it then works I will report this error. Thanks02:35
blakewhere can i find that02:35
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mindspinbut reinstalling grub will be the solution02:35
chrissturmwhats a good gnome gui to burn isos?02:35
devazionmindspin, It will?02:35
mindspinsure02:36
eruin|QuaD-_: now all we have to do is wait for inotify 0.20 kernels ;)02:36
|QuaD-_eruin: you can install the patch02:36
blakeok i did that02:36
|QuaD-_i haven't decided if i will yet02:36
mindspinwhat fs type do you have?02:36
blakenow i have02:36
devazionmindspin, Reiserfs02:36
goofriderdevaz: u can just resize your root and squeeze a /boot (100MB is enough)02:36
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blakeroot@LittleWhiteBox:/home/blake # sudo modprobe ntfs02:36
blakeroot@LittleWhiteBox:/home/blake # sudo mkdir /mnt/music02:36
blakeroot@LittleWhiteBox:/home/blake #02:36
mindspinworjed fine for me....02:36
eruin|QuaD-_: I'd rather not mess with kernels again.. haha... patched mine to get dma support for my sata and ide-cd :)02:36
Nermalblake, and ?02:36
Nermalso now mount the partition02:36
devaziongoofrider, I will do that!02:37
blakehow02:37
Nermal4TH TIME: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/music02:37
cmbrothlol02:37
devazionThanks a lot for the support everybody!02:37
blakei have 2 hard drives02:37
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Nermaloh jesus02:37
pefhello02:37
cmbrothtry man mount02:37
NermalI'm not even going to attempt to explain this one02:37
devazionblake, rtfm should fit in here =)02:38
cmbroth2nd hard drive drive should be hdb102:38
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|QuaD-_eruin: lol02:38
devazionBye! Thanks!02:38
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Amaranthchrissturm: nautilus can burn ISOs02:38
eruin|QuaD-_: what was the option needed for mounted drives?02:38
Amaranthchrissturm: right click on the ISO file :)02:38
|QuaD-_eruin: the instructions are here if you change your mind: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BeagleInstallHowto02:38
eruinxattr?02:38
eruincheers ;)02:38
|QuaD-_xussr_attributes, or something like that02:38
blakeyeah that's what i hear02:38
chrissturmamaranth: thx, just saw it :)02:38
blakeso then i should just type that02:39
chrissturmhow can i enable dma as default for my cdrom /dev/hdc02:39
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goofriderAmaranth: well I'll try my best not to recommend ppl to include marillat02:39
cmbrothI think someone just mentioned having to patch the kernel to get DMA support02:39
Nermalblake,  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/music ?02:39
goofriderPersonally I pin Marillat to a low priority so I have no issues whatsoever02:39
Nermalcmbroth, nah.. hdparm -d 1 /dev/<whatever> will turn it on02:39
chrissturmsudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc works02:40
NermalI'm just not sure how to make it default on boot in ubuntu02:40
blakeactually to be exact02:40
blakeyall02:40
goofridercmb: Kernel had DMA for yrs, whatcha talking about?02:40
blakei have 2 hard drives 2 cd drives and a floppy02:40
chrissturmi think its an option in /etc/modules02:40
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AirWaysHow I can install FTP server to my Ubuntu?02:40
Nermalapt-get install pure-ftpd ?02:40
cmbroth|QuaD-_: I'd rather not mess with kernels again.. haha... patched mine to get dma support for my sata and ide-cd :)02:40
Nermalblake, just try the command02:41
|QuaD-_cmbroth: ok....02:41
|QuaD-_alright final time ttyl02:41
blakehda102:41
goofriderNermel: to mount at boottime, modify your /etc/fstab02:41
chrissturmsince i am using ubuntu i finally stopped using self compiled kernels02:41
blakeor hdb102:41
Nermalgoofrider, no.. to turn dma on02:41
mindspinblake, why not installing xp?02:41
Nermalblake, both02:41
AirWaysOkay02:41
goofriderisn't it on my default?02:41
Nermalwell.. is your music on C or D ?02:41
goofriderby default?02:41
goofriderthe installer should have detected it02:42
Nermalif it's on C then hda1 if it's on D then hdb102:42
cmbrothSorry, think I confused the issue(s), I'll go hide in the corner now..02:42
chrissturmnermal: not neccesarily. my hda is g: in xp :)02:42
blakecan't i just say hdb2?02:42
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Nermalchrissturm, please don't start02:42
blakeand then it would defenately work?02:42
Nermalblake, well that will be partition 2 on the primary slave. is that what you want02:42
chrissturmhmm, ok02:42
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Nermalblake, please do not ask for advice if you are then going to discard it and wildly guess what to do02:43
blakeok02:43
Nermaleither follow the advice or don't ask02:43
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blakesry02:43
blakeso02:43
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blakewhat was it02:43
blake sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/music02:43
goofriderNermel: you're not obligted to any handholding02:43
blakeright02:43
Nermalif it's on C then hda1 if it's on D then hdb102:43
blakei'm going to try it02:43
FackamatoIron Maiden - Somewhere in Time - Stranger in a Strange Land02:43
Fackamato\o/02:43
FackamatoDx02:43
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blakeit's pins on the actual hard drive are set to slave if that helps02:44
goofriderhey I have CJK support???  LOL02:44
blakeholly crap02:45
blakeit worked i think02:45
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Nermalgo to /mnt/music in nautilus or wherever and see if your music is there02:45
freexi need help in python2.4,02:46
blakei don't know how to open the program02:46
blakelol02:46
Nermalblake, buy a mac02:46
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NermalI fail to see how linux is so complicated compared to windows02:46
cmbrothGo to places, filesystem, them click on /mnt and then on /music02:46
NermalI also fail to see how some people manage to clothe and feed themselves02:46
Nermaland I've run out of coffee :(02:46
cmbrothGnome and KDE are easier than Windoze!02:47
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Nermaland hopefully more intuitive02:47
goofriderBlake: Maybe u should RTFM02:47
goofriderthere's plenty of resources avail02:47
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Nermalyou don't go to start to shutdown the machine for example02:47
cmbrothNo coffee?! Run screaming to the nearest 7-1102:47
goofridertry asking Google and Ubuntuforums02:47
Nermalcmbroth, I only had some crap instant coffee anyway, but at least it was caffiene :|02:47
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cmbrothThe Ubuntu forums are very helpful02:47
Nermalblake, what's your paypal account # so I can bill it ?02:48
cmbrothlol02:48
nevynstart -> shutdown has to be the most braindead piece of ui design ever.02:48
goofriderNermal: U've provided more handholding then it's needed02:48
Nermalgoofrider, I tried :(02:48
Nermalnevyn, nah .. "control - alt - delete" to log on is02:48
goofriderNermel: At some point, u need to say no, RTFM02:49
goofriderLOL02:49
nevynNermal: no that makes sense... because it's a privilaged call to trap that.02:49
mindspinblake, did your mum allow you to install ubuntu on the computer?02:49
Nermalnevyn, "use the combination of keys used to reboot the machine to start your login"02:49
goofriderblake: no offense, but there are PLENTY of step-by-step guide on how to mount NTFS on Linux02:49
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Nermalgoofrider, I do.. but then I'd get questions like "RTFM? where? how? what? why?"02:50
goofriderNermal: U don't use Ctrl-Alt-Del to login in XP if u have welcome screen02:50
Nermalgoofrider, oh. never used XP02:50
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cmbrothWe need to start this guy on the HOWTO doc.. anyone know the address right off?02:50
danielsNermal: 'buy a mac' is not constructive02:50
Nermaldaniels, oh for gods sake02:50
goofriderto MS's credit, the C-A-D seq for login is so that trojans can't trap the seq and provide a fake login02:50
Nermalthe last god knows how many lines WERE constructive02:50
goofriderthat was an explicit design decision02:50
danielsi understand that it's trying, but please don't get acerbic02:50
albackeri want to install a package but that needs another, and the other one needs another one. . all the packages are in the same dir. is there any way to solve this ? in mandrake was something like rpm -ihv * or rpm -Uhv *02:51
danielsif you need to walk away, then just walk away02:51
Drako60is there anyway to tell what modules are loaded and boot and in which order?02:51
Nermaldaniels, yes.. you should02:51
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blakeok the folder is there .....but i can't get in it02:51
cmbrothalbacker, are you using synaptic or a terminal window?02:51
goofrideralbacker: use apt-get or synaptic02:51
albackerno, dpkg !02:52
goofriderLMAO02:52
Nermalyou know.. after helping quite a few people out, expecially very trying people, a little bit of sarcasm at the end just about keeps me from screaming.02:52
goofrideruse apt-get02:52
albackeri have all packages in the same dir. and doing dpkg -i *02:52
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albackergoofrider !! i have the packages! ! ! !02:52
cmbrothapt-get is much easier and will take care of most of your dependencies automagically02:52
NermalComments like that don't encourage people to help trying users at all02:52
kamstrupalbacker: dpkg -i *.deb02:52
cmbrothThat works too ;)02:52
albackerkamstrup, yeah, but that doesnt install !02:52
kamstrupAre you sure?02:52
albackeryes02:53
freexwhen i type "kinterbasdb.init(type_conv=100)" i get an error02:53
Nermalwhy you chose to pick on certain people who are helping out a lot is beyond me02:53
albackerit says, problems installiing this02:53
goofrideralbacker:... and all the dependency is there too? I don't why it doesn't work02:53
albackergoofrider, me too02:53
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albackermaybe it starts installing another package before the other.02:53
freexTraceback (most recent call last):02:53
freex  File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?02:53
freex  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/kinterbasdb/__init__.py", line 343, in init02:53
freex    fakeFunc.func_code = realFunc.func_code02:53
freexValueError: Date() requires a code object with 0 free vars, not 102:53
AirWaysPackage pure-ftpd not found02:53
goofrideralbackerL have u tried adding the DEB to available?02:53
cmbrothCan you cut-n-paste the error message?02:53
goofriderdpkg --add-avail or something02:54
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albackergoofrider,  ?02:54
goofriderNermal: What's wrongbud?02:54
blakeit says i don't have permitions to view it02:54
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goofrideralbacker: yeah.. I think it sounds like some missing dependency02:54
Nermaltyping my ass off and getting whinged at for letting off a little bit of steam after telling people to do the same thing 5 times02:54
mindspinstay cool02:55
NermalI was02:55
AirWaysWhat is good FTP program for Ubuntu?02:55
Nermalgftp ?02:55
Fator_DeeAirWays: gftp02:55
AirWaysServer I mean02:55
cmbrothI like ncftp02:55
NermalAirWays, pure-ftpd ?02:56
Nermalproftpd ?02:56
AirWaysBut that package not found02:56
AirWayspure-ftpd02:56
goofriderblake: well then obviously.. change the permissions02:56
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Nermalblake, sudo umount /mnt/music; sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=022 /dev/hda1 /mnt/music02:56
goofrideruse SFTP instead of plain FTP whenever u can02:57
goofriderdo not install FTP server unlesss u have no other options. FTP is VERY insecure02:57
AirWaysBut I want to install FTP-Server02:57
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albackerariways, why not a 80 one ?02:57
goofriderI'm jusat saying, re-evalute your need to see if u really need an FTP server02:57
NermalAirWays, so apt-get install pure-ftpd02:57
albackerAirWays, http02:58
Nermalhmm02:58
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dballesterhi to all02:58
AirWaysBut it says to package not founfd02:58
Nermalubuntu (~) $ aptitude search pure-ftpd02:58
Nermalp   pure-ftpd                       - Pure-FTPd FTP server02:58
Nermaltis here :|02:58
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Nermalyou got all the repositories enabled ?02:58
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danielsNermal: you're undoubtedly helping a lot, which everyone appreciates, but if you're friendly to users, people are going to stick around a lot more.02:58
dballesterOT: anybody can point me to the right way to know how wine make file associations? ( I wanna launc openoffice for sxw files under my Lotus Notes mail client ) TIA02:58
albackerguys can someone give me some repos02:59
Nermaldaniels, I know. I'm sorry. :|02:59
NermalAirWays, Section: universe/net02:59
danielsthanks; i'm not trying to come off as unappreciative02:59
xxenonwhere do I configure the actions taken with ACPI events ? (lid closed, power button...)02:59
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Nermalmake sure you have universe enabled02:59
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Drako60i just want to know how to see what modules are being loaded at boot and what order02:59
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NermalDrako60, I think some are loaded in initrd02:59
Nermalthings like disc controller modules / etc02:59
Drako60yes those are the ones i want to know the order of03:00
goofriderbut u'd think someone know enough about comupters to get on IRC would at least know how to be as self-sufficient as they can03:00
Seveasxxenon, /etc/acpi/*03:00
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kasshey some problems here with hoary. When selecting anything over 640x480 res screen goes all weird. might be related to HorizSync/Vertical Refresh  Any ideas?03:01
Seveasbut be carful with what you do there :)03:01
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mindspinkass what videocard? hardware?03:02
spacemindhys ppl03:02
NermalI've had that with integrated video cards being set to some stupidly low amount of ram in the bios03:02
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kassNVIDIA Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 6403:03
spacemindcan anyone make me change my ideas between using debian and migrate to ubuntu ?03:03
Nermalhum03:03
Ironfrosthi - I need to create a new partition to install Windows03:03
Nermalspacemind, sane release cycle ? :)03:03
goofriderspacemind; 6 month release cycle, guranteed03:03
kasswell it works fine in windows03:03
IronfrostI just installed gparted03:03
Tybor2hi people... can someone send me output of "dpkg --get-selections" runned on a "clean" hoary?03:03
spacemindNermal :)03:03
mindspinI got a machine here with sis chipset and I never get it runnining whatever card is inside (nvidia, ati, s3)03:03
Nermalspacemind, it depends what branch of debian you use03:03
Ironfrostshould I unmount my main partition so that I can shrink it03:03
spacemindNermal: I use debian sarge with fluxbox03:03
goofriderspacemind: Xorg03:03
Ironfrostor would that cause things to fall down?03:03
xxenonSeveas - thx.03:04
goofriderIronfrost: u can't umount your main part ( i tried)03:04
Nermalspacemind, hmm.. the main things with ubuntu are userfriendliness and good support for gnome /kde03:04
goofriderU have to boot from CD03:04
IronfrostOK03:04
AirWaysHow I can restart vsftp ?03:04
Nermalso I'm not sure how much you would gain by switching03:04
Ironfrostboot from a LiveCD?03:04
Nermalsudo /etc/init.d/vsftp restart03:04
spacemindcan i install fluxbox and have a desktop chooser ?03:04
AirWaysOKay thanks03:04
Nermalor vsftpd03:04
Ironfrostin that case, how would I be able to change my partitions?03:04
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NermalI guess...03:04
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Seveasspacemind, yes03:04
kassmindspin: NVIDIA Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64   ift works peachy in windows03:04
NermalIronfrost, you can't unmount / usually03:05
goofriderIron: what do u mean by changing paritions?03:05
Nermalas /bin/mount is under / ;)03:05
goofriderYou can't umount /03:05
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goofriderbut u can boot from a diffrent partition as root03:05
mindspinyep but I never get any linux with xserver running on that box , but its a cheapo one03:05
Nermalbest thing would be to get a livecd or an installer cd and use the partitioner on that03:05
goofriderusing a livecd is the simplest03:05
mindspindid you try running live cd on it?03:06
spacemindok, i will take a look :) a p 400mhz with 768ram is ok to use gnome ?03:06
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Nermalspacemind, ram is fine.. cpu might chug a little03:06
Nermalbut should be usuable03:06
goofriderspace: I switched to Ubuntu cause Iget things as current as Sid but with better stablilty03:06
Seveasit'll be usable03:06
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goofriderspace: I have 512MB and 933MHz P3. Working pretty welll (with load of daemons in the background)03:07
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Seveasgoofrider, there are even things from experimental in Ubuntu :)03:07
Ironfrostgoofrider: Gparted tells me that I have /dev/hda1 (my main partition), and /dev/hda2 (extended) which contains /dev/hda5 (linux-swap)03:07
spacemindgoofrider: i wanna give a try because what you say :)03:07
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Ironfrostwhat I want to do (and what I mean by 'changing partitions') is to shrink /dev/hda1 and create a fat32 partition03:08
NermalIronfrost, you can't resize / when it's mounted.. and when linux is running you generally can't unmount /03:08
goofriderspace: what did I say?03:08
goofriderdon't blame me!!!!03:08
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IronfrostNermal - OK03:08
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|iXiiOn|hello03:08
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NermalIronfrost, a livecd runs from the cd, so / isn't mounted, meaning you can resizer it03:08
Ironfrostdo any liveCDs have partition editing tools?03:09
Nermalresize*03:09
goofriderwell, make sure u don't run too many daemons. 400MHz might not be enough03:09
Nermalumm... knoppix will have03:09
Ironfrostpreferably something graphical03:09
Ironfrost'k03:09
NermalI think03:09
mindspinknoppix has qtpatred03:09
Nermalthere you go :)03:09
spacemindgoofrider: lol :)03:09
cmbrothMEPIS has qtparted also03:09
Ironfrostthanks a lot03:09
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|iXiiOn|i have a question does it make sense to use ubuntu for a 300mhz pc ?03:09
cyphasewhere's the gzip module for apache2? or is libapache-mod-gzip for apache1 and 2?03:09
IronfrostI think I have knoppix lying around somewhere, so I'll use that03:09
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spacemindif i use debian as experimental isnt almost the same as ubuntu ?03:09
Nermal|iXiiOn|, not for much graphical stuff03:09
goofriderSysresqCd has QTParted as well (but the CD itself is terminal)03:09
Nermalsomething like fluxbox may be ok03:09
|iXiiOn|Nermal no hust office stuff03:10
|iXiiOn|just03:10
Nermalbut it's probably not quite quick enough for gnome / kde03:10
danielsspacemind: no, experimental is different.  it still has older versions of gnome and xorg in particular, and we have a different set of packages, different default setup, etc.03:10
goofriderI live SysResqCd better since it's small (200MB), has LVM, ReiserFs, XFS, HTS03:10
goofriderHFS03:10
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Nermal|iXiiOn|, I mean any graphics.. ie: a graphical environment03:10
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spacemindokay, great, i will definitly give a try now :)03:10
Nermal300mhz makes a nice console machine :)03:10
goofriderand a textmode live CD is better since the boot time is MUCH SHORTER than Knoppix03:10
Nermal|iXiiOn|, how much ram ?03:10
|iXiiOn|64 :)03:10
Drako60Questiong, how does the kernel check the cable bits against the BIOS?03:10
spacemindNermal: console ? i play unreal tournament with it in debian :)03:11
Nermal|iXiiOn|, may just be enough to install :)03:11
mindspinmake it a router ;-)03:11
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cmbrothOn a 300MHz?03:11
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spacemindcmbroth: 350mhz overclocked to 400mhz03:11
Nermalheh03:11
Nermalspeeed03:11
cyphasedoes anyone know where the gzip module for apache2? or is libapache-mod-gzip for apache 1 and 2?03:11
|iXiiOn|hm wel then i think i better take win98 or something03:11
goofriderspeaking of router.. any of u tried ClarkConnect? I use IPCop but I'd like some fancier features03:11
spacemindi have some debian routers with 166mhz and 64ram :)03:11
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Nermal|iXiiOn|, openoffice will definately chug on that machine03:12
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mindspinthere are some small computer distros out there, try google03:12
bloombergis there an inbox-monitor available for Ubuntu?03:12
Nermalbloomberg, sure.. there are panel apps03:12
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Nermala local inbox or something like gmail ?03:12
zxcdoes anyone know how to make the "unhide" and "user" options for the CD-Rom in the "Fstab"03:12
goofriderspace: let me just say that Gnome perform betters than KDE on my Ubuntu box03:12
bloombergcan't find it in apt-cache search inbox03:12
cyphase|iXii0n|, use it as a cluster node ;)03:12
goofriderspace: so avoid KDE if u can.....03:12
|iXiiOn|hehe03:13
danielsgoofrider: performance of the two differs between machines.  one is cpu-heavy, the other ram-heavy.03:13
ayvmaat_use XFCE !03:13
goofriderspace: I use IPcop for my router03:13
bloomberglocal inbox03:13
goofriderGPL03:13
bloombergevolution actually03:13
Seveascyphase, isn;t that integrated into apache 2?03:13
goofrider40MB installer03:13
munkibloomberg , try search in synaptic .03:13
danielsyou can't make a blanket statement that either is faster than the other03:13
|iXiiOn|no its for my father i thought it would be nice to update his pc ab bit03:13
cyphaseSeveas, i don't think so, because its not sending it compressed03:13
bloombergmunki: i have, no results for inbox that are panel apps03:13
|iXiiOn|now he has an 100mhz 486 :)03:13
goofriderdaniel: which one is which?  LOL03:14
cyphaseSeveas, it sends the gzip header, but its not actually compressed03:14
Nermalp   mboxcheck-applet                - A GNOME2 applet to check your mboxes ?03:14
goofriderdaniels: I wasn't trying to make a blanket statement, my system is somewhat similiar in specs to space's03:14
bloombergyeah i tried that, can't find it on the Add Panel though, do I have to put it on there manually03:14
Nermalummm03:14
goofriderand my comment was stircitly in that context. My recommendation to him based on our similar systems03:15
danielsfair enough03:15
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|iXiiOn|well i konw 300mhz is almost crpa but i dont want to through it away , and i cant build always routers out of the old pc .. :)03:15
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zxcif I was to add "unhide" to the Fstab do I just do ,Unhide after the option for the drive03:16
Nermalbloomberg, a killall gnome-panel made it appear for me03:16
Nermal(it respawns)03:16
spacemind|iXiiOn|: install debian with fluxbox, it rox a lot :)03:16
goofriderixii: yeah fluxbox might work well03:16
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goofriderhow much RAM does it have though03:17
|iXiiOn|64 mb03:17
ayvmaat_BlackBox 4 ever03:17
bloombergNermal: how do I get the panel back again, just gnome-panel?03:17
goofriderwell.... maybe not03:17
goofriderLMAO03:17
Nermalbloomberg, it should come back itself :|03:17
mindspinis it possible to apgrade it (ramwize)03:17
Nermalmaybe killall -HUP would have been a better plan :|03:17
|iXiiOn|are there complett distros fpr old pcs ?03:17
Nermalredhat 6 ? :)03:18
mindspincheck google there are some03:18
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Nermalerm.. debian ?03:18
bretzelbloomberg: just exec gnome-panel03:18
kyneshi03:18
Nermaldebian woody loves old machiens03:18
mindspinbut I hjave no link03:18
goofriderjust use Ubuntu server03:18
Nermalgoofrider, aye.. but the installer still need > 32mb03:18
kynesI can't compile some code using xlib.h03:18
goofriderit'll depend on what u wanna do with it03:18
kynesor other things from X1103:18
kyneswhat must I do ?03:18
bloombergok thanks03:18
kynesI know ubuntu hoary uses xorg03:18
Nermalkynes, what's the error ?03:18
goofriderLike I said, I use the IPCop distro for router03:18
kynesthere is no header file like that03:19
kynesthat's the cause03:19
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kyneswhere can I find the devel files of xorg?03:19
kyneswill X11 devel files work?03:19
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kynesI'm kinda confused about that03:19
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Nermalapt-get install xlibs-dev03:20
Nermal?03:20
goofriderkynes: maybe try searching for Xlib.h on packages.debian.org or packages.ubuntulinux.org???03:20
kyneswill it work for xorg?03:20
Nermal"X Window System client library development files"03:20
thenukecould you build windows xp with tools made for win 3.1103:20
NermalI think so03:20
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danielskynes: it's in a bunch of libraryes.  xlib.h is libx11-dev.  you can get most of the client-side hearders with xlibs-dev, libxss-dev, libxinerama-dev, libxxf86vm-dev, libxxf86misc-dev, and libxxf86dga-dev03:20
goofrideru should be able to find packges by the files they contain03:20
danielsalso, 'libraries', 'headers'.  bleh.03:20
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kyneswhy doesn't ubuntu come with these things03:21
Nermalit does03:21
goofriderthenuke: win3.1 tools make win16 apps. it'll run on XP just looks like crap and doesn't have 32-bit mode addressing03:21
Nermalthey just aren't installed by default03:21
Nermalpeople are expected to use debs of precompiled stuff, not compile there own03:21
karim___hi03:22
Nermaltheir*03:22
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thenukegoofrider: smartass? yes.03:22
karim___does anyone know if something like an usb driver that makes a PC like a Usb Mass Storage exist ?03:22
goofriderkynes: it's very easy to figure out what dev packages to get once u get used to the packaging system03:22
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Nermalkarim___, sure.. just plug the usb device in and you should get an icon on the desktop03:23
kynesI'm getting xlibs-dev and it's dependencies now03:23
MyKq3hello ppl whats up :)03:23
goofriderthenuke:  LOL03:23
Nermallo MyKq303:23
neofeedwhat's the reason ubuntu (hoary) runs with an ageing version of gaim... new one is hardly stable or something?03:23
goofriderneofeed: hoary-backport has a new one03:23
FlyingSquirrel32How do I tell gnome to run sudo dpkg -i filename whenever I d-click on a .deb ?03:23
goofridernot sure if that's new enough for u03:24
NermalNeoCool, that was the latest that was available at the time of the freeze.. simple03:24
kyneswhat's the difference between xorg and X1103:24
NermalFlyingSquirrel32, bad plan03:24
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FlyingSquirrel32Nermal, why?03:24
Andrilhello03:24
goofriderneofeed: the version of GAI is picked probly becauase that was the stable version when hoary is frozen03:24
AndrilI am stuck in Crash City03:24
karim___Nermal no I mean the other way around.03:24
thenukegoofrider: or am I wrong? does X11-devel  work for xorg03:24
Nermalbecause a) sudo is for console.. you want gtksudo or similar and b) no console will appear so no confirmation text or error messages will appear03:24
neofeedgoofrider, hmm okay gotta add hoary-backports03:24
goofriderxorg is the X server lib I think03:24
goofriderand X11 is the X client lib03:25
karim___Nermal kind of it is with firewire03:25
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karim___how03:25
FlyingSquirrel32Nermal, if you're thinking of security, I still have to authorize it by putting in my password03:25
goofriderBut I'm just guessing03:25
Nermalyou want to make a PC appear as a usb storage device ?03:25
Amaranthhey, macs can do that, but as firewire03:25
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karim___nermal exactly03:25
Nermala windows PC ?03:26
goofriderwell Firewire is VERY diffrent from USB03:26
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kynesgoofrider: I think it's a bit wrong.. because I know they are doing approximately the same job but they're different03:26
danielskynes: x11 is the protocol that we use03:26
Nermalgoofrider, thank god :)03:26
neofeedgoofrider, is there a tutorial or somesuch on how to create ubuntu packages?03:26
karim___I have seen a topic about that somewhere, but I don't remember where03:26
bloombergok so I've put in mailcheck i now get ""The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFIID:GNOME_MboxCheck. delete applet from config?"03:26
goofriderin the fact that USB requires a a node act as the host for all transfers03:26
danielskynes: xorg is an organisation (x.org) that produces the sample implementation of x11 -- clients, libraries, servers03:26
Xappehmm, have they solved the issues woth backports and upgrading? or do I have to track the backports down myself when it's time to upgrade?03:26
karim___a linux pc or windows, whatever03:26
Nermalbloomberg, :(03:26
larsrohdina bit off topic, but can someone tell me what IRC-client this is? http://www.deviantart.com/view/481013/03:26
danielskynes: libx11 is the standard client-side library, but it sucks.  libx11-dev is the dev stuff for that library alone.03:26
goofriderneofeed: Debian New Maintainer's Guide03:26
Nermalbloomberg, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3882.html03:27
tritiumGood morning!03:27
kynesok so what's the package xorg-common?03:27
Nermallo tritium03:27
kynesif x.org is just an organisation03:27
tritiumHi Nermal, good to see you.03:27
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karim___so there is no such thing as UMS for a pc03:27
Gogxorg is a new implementation of X, produced by x.org03:27
kynesI think you're right but not exactly telling all the meaning the word "xorg" has03:27
Nermaltritium, it is ?03:27
goofriderXorg is also the reference implementaion of X Server we use03:27
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tritiumNermal, of course03:28
kynesGog: I meant that. exactly03:28
karim___sharing could be done through samba03:28
neofeedgoofrider, thanks. Do you even further know why the gpg generation on ubuntuguide's "How to add extra repositories" does not work?03:28
karim___it would be nice ^^^03:28
cmbrothMaybe explain the difference between Xorg and XFree86?03:28
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Nermallarsrohdin, bitchx03:28
kynesGog: so I'm asking what's the difference between new and old implementations?03:28
Nermalnote the bitchx> prompt at the bottom of the window03:28
goofriderneofeed: what error r u getting?03:28
larsrohdinNermal, oh ok03:28
kynescmbroth: sorry. I should've phrased it like this03:28
Gogkynes, what's the difference between deadrat/debian/suse/.... :)03:28
Nermaltritium, I'm not used to people saying that :|03:28
kynescmbroth: as you said03:29
danielskynes: xorg-common is the common files shared between the servers from x.org's standard implementation (xorg)03:29
NermalGog, lots and lots03:29
Gogsomeone's probably cataloged the diffs - google03:29
drcodedd2hi all03:29
neofeedgoofrider, prompt keeps hanging - doing nothing [waiting for input?] 03:29
tritiumNermal, well, it's good to see you, all the same.03:29
Nermalthankyou03:29
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milounyI installed Ubuntu on a system with a wireless card with a prism2-chip, and it was detected... But I loses it's wireless capabilities all the time: iwconfig then says "no wireless extensions", or it shows wireless extensions but says "NOT READY!". How is this caused?03:29
Nermalmilouny, anything in dmesg ?03:29
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neofeedgoofrider, maybe it can't find the host?03:29
Andrilhas anyone been experiencing apps just carshing (closing)? Like Firefox and such03:30
danielskynes: when you get into the history involving xfree86 forking from the x consortium, the xc changing to x.org, x.org re-forking from xfree86, x.org dissolving and forming the x.org foundation, which is totally different, and the version number disaster ... it's all clear as mud03:30
goofriderneofeed: what cmd did u use? Possibly wget is choking while getting the key03:30
neofeedgoofrider, gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B90703:30
milounyNermal: Ow, I should have checked for that. I don't have access to the box now, as that wireless connections is my only way to the internet -- I'm 15km further now :)03:30
NermalAndril, erm.. run from terminal and see what the exit message is ?03:30
goofriderto add to daniels comment: there's a great FAQ that came with the Org docs03:30
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Andrilok03:30
Nermalmilouny, sounds like it could be an irq problem or some such... you could try booting with pci=noacpi and maybe adding noapic03:31
Nermalsee how stable that is03:31
goofridertalks about X11 histroy, Xfree86 history, theXfree86 license fiasco and why we have Xorg now03:31
AndrilNermal, thanks - I would have never thought of that03:31
NermalAndril, pci=noacpi was my magic fix at suse03:31
Nermalthough admittedly that was more to do with 2.4.x kernel series, but it can still help with 2.6.x03:31
mindspinthis applies also to older thinkpads ;-)03:31
goofriderneofeed: I think I had problems with that too. I just downloaded the key directly from search the keyserver @ MIT then imported manually03:31
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AndrilNermal, is this a command?03:32
FlyingSquirrel32Nermal, if you have a sec, why would it be a bad idea to set gnome to install as i mentioned earlier?03:32
milounyBut I know `rmmod prism54; modprobe prism54' solves it sometimes. I had the same problem on debian unstable (kernel 2.6.6), and then rmmod would work - although very often it could not release and it would suck all cpu, and I had to do a hard reboot as "shutdown" was ignored by the kernel. That's why I decided to install ubuntu... But I have comparable problems.03:32
NermalAndril, no. a kernel parameter03:32
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kynesgoofrider&daniels: thanks I'll search and read03:32
NermalFlyingSquirrel32, I did answer but didn't put your nick in front.. one sec03:32
danielsNermal: noapic and pci=noacpi are the two magic bullets in that part of the world03:32
NermalFlyingSquirrel32, because a) sudo is for console.. you want gtksudo or similar and b) no console will appear so no confirmation text or error messages will appear03:32
milounyNermal: I'll try it with pci=noacpi, thanks...03:32
Nermaldaniels, aye.. suse's decision to turn all of acpi on in 2.4.x was a bad plan :|03:32
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goofriderkynes: it's on your hard drive possibly.. I know it's on mine (came with Xord)03:33
neofeedgoofrider, hmm well will live with 'unauthorized' so long :)03:33
danielsNermal: acpi is a minefield03:33
eruinanyone running beagle here?03:33
Nermalmilouny, set them in /boot/grub/menu.lst on the kernel line03:33
Nermalor at boot time by hitting e on the line you want to boot03:33
zxchow can I open a file in root?03:33
FlyingSquirrel32Nermal, true... aw shucks.03:33
larsrohdinNermal, uuu bitchx was scary=) ill stick to x-chat... but can i get the entire window transparent?03:33
tritiummorning, daniels03:33
Nermaldaniels, yah.. a rapidly changing minefield and each manufacturer has different looking mines..03:33
eruinzxc: sudo gedit file03:33
Nermaland the linux developers are blind with 4 foot wide sticks03:33
FlyingSquirrel32Nermal, can I make synaptic install it when I dclick?03:33
goofriderneofeed: please be VERY careful with adding unofficial repos03:33
milounyNermal: I'll try it, thanks! Not having an internet connection is hard when solving these problems...03:34
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mindspinor sudo vim /path/to/filename03:34
danielsNermal: getting a lot better though03:34
Nermallarsrohdin, with xorg03:34
danielstritium: morning dude03:34
Nermaland composite extensions03:34
NermalFlyingSquirrel32, I imagine so03:34
larsrohdinNermal, ok... do you know if there is a good guide or something to that?03:34
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Nermalit would entail some gconf hacking to tell nautilus what to do with .deb files03:34
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neofeedgoofrider, well I'm pretty good with linux :) So I think I know what I do when I do something... [maybe the idea to try breezy was a stupid one... but at least it was fun] 03:35
danielslarsrohdin: bear in mind that composite is frighteningly slow and reasonably unstable03:35
Nermalyah03:35
larsrohdindaniels, ok...03:35
kynesthanks for all the answers03:35
kynesgtg. bye03:35
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zxceruin, it's a setup file. It says I have to run it in root. I've cd to it's directory03:35
zxcgedit just brings up the script :/03:35
mindspinsudo gedti03:35
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mindspingedit03:35
Nermalzxc, chmod 755 it03:36
Nermaland then ./it03:36
Nermalor just sh <filename>03:36
Nermalto run it through sh03:36
eruinzxc: chmod +x setupfile, sudo ./setupfile03:36
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yoguihi ! where can i found GD librairy please ?03:37
Nermalapt-get install gd03:37
Nermalor gd203:37
eruinzxc: you did ask about how to open it, not how to run it ;)03:37
mindspinthere is always another way to do it ;-)03:37
Nermalgah03:37
yoguinermal : thanx03:37
kratzHi! I have some problems, The "make" commands dosent work... please help03:37
Nermalyogui, libgd2 sorry03:37
tritiumkratz, install build-essential03:37
Nermalyogui, so sudo apt-get install libgd203:38
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yoguinermal : oki03:38
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yoguinermal : it's working !03:38
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Nermal:D03:38
kratzi ll search and try;)03:38
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tritiumkratz, i.e., "sudo aptitude (or apt-get) install build-essential"03:38
eruinargh. beagle only wants to index my im and email conversations ;)03:39
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Nermaleruin, you mounted the partitions with user_xattr ?03:39
yoguimust i restart apache ?03:39
eruinNermal: ofcourse ;)03:39
NermalI mean xattr :\03:39
eruinit's working fine, it just only indexes that03:39
Nermaleruin, it's schedules..03:39
eruinuser_xattr is correct03:39
Nermalgive it a few minutes03:39
Nermalit seems to run an index every 20 seconds or so here03:39
goofriderhow's Beagle anyways?03:40
NermalI also found clearing out ~/.beagle as a last resort when upgrading from a very old version helped03:40
eruinNermal: I'm watching it right now in debug mode.. it only indexes im and email, not files... even though I've told it to index everything03:40
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Nermalgoofrider, getting there.. a bit hungry to run on my laptop03:40
goofrideron Hoary or Breezy?03:40
Nermalgoofrider, it also finds stuff you thought you deleted a loooong time ago :)03:40
goofriderLMAO03:40
Nermalgoofrider, I'm running breezy but there are debs for hoary :)03:40
alexandrei want to use webmin onto my server to configure samba, but i can't find samba into the page03:40
alexandrecan u hel pme?03:40
goofriderOh there's a backport now? Maybe I should try it... :)03:41
Nermalwebmin installed and started and you're at https://localhost:10000 ?03:41
yoguialexandre : you must install module no ?03:41
tim1eruin: do you use the stock 2.6.10 kernel?03:41
Nermalgoofrider, aye.. look on beaglewiki.org03:41
goofrideralex: did u install the samba module?03:41
eruintim1: yeah, off breezy03:41
larsrohdingoofrider, so its not recommended or, should i give it a shot?03:41
tim1because beagle doesn't work at all for me03:41
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Nermalalexandre, sudo apt-get install webmin-samba03:42
priest_which kernel is hoary using now?03:42
Nermal2.6.10 I think03:42
goofrider2.6.1003:42
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alexandregreat, thx03:42
Nermal:)03:42
alexandrewhere can i find a list of all modules ?03:42
yoguistupid question for newbi : how to restart apache ?03:42
Nermalalexandre, aptitude search webim03:42
Nermalum03:42
mindspinapachectl restart03:42
goofridersudo apt-cache search webmin03:42
tritiumyogui, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart03:42
Nermalaptitude search webmin-03:42
tim1eruin: do you have inotify enabled?03:42
alexandrethx03:43
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yoguithx03:43
Titan3025hi03:43
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mindspinor apache-perlctl restart03:43
mindspindepends03:43
Nermaltim1, that isn't essential as of 0.0.8 iirc03:43
eruintim1: I honestly have no idea... beagle isn't complaining atleast03:43
Nermallo Titan302503:43
Titan3025;-)03:43
larsrohdinNermal, what do i need to download to use com. extensions?03:43
Nermalumm.. isn't that java ?03:43
wdhyogui, or, to do it the microsoft way, reboot your computer!03:43
tim1because i have it enabled and beagled is spitting out some inotify errors03:43
Nermalcom. extensions /03:43
Nermal?03:43
yoguilol03:43
Nermaltim1, about locks ?03:44
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larsrohdinNermal, composite extensions03:44
yoguiso, i've installed GDlib but imagecreatefromjpeg() is undefined ... why ?03:44
larsrohdincomposition extensions03:44
Nermallarsrohdin, nothing really03:44
Titan3025any1 else experiencing download probs on backport server?03:44
tim1Nermal:  Unhandled Exception: System.IO.IOException: Attempt to watch /home/tim/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers failed!03:44
Nermalthere are a couple of utils to tweak it03:44
Nermaltim1, iirc thats a mono 1.0.5 issue03:44
goofriderbackport is very flaky03:44
Titan3025:-(03:44
Nermalgrab the newer mono debs from a repo..03:44
larsrohdini tried xcompmgr and it said "No composite extension"03:45
tim1Nermal: I have 1.1.7, newest version03:45
Titan3025backports is impossible slow today :-( hope they fix it soon03:45
Nermallarsrohdin, you will need to enable it in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:45
tim1I'm using fa fully updated breezy03:45
NermalI think you need Load "composite"03:45
Nermalin there, underneath all the others03:45
Nermalthen restart x03:45
Xappetritium: so, are you running breezy yet? I find it really hard to resist the part of my linux brain that want's to upgrade, but I guess i'll only find myself in a hell of breakage if i do :)03:45
Titan3025hehe03:46
Nermalif you want it fast and unstable (more so) and have an nvidia card, adding Option "RenderAccel" in the card identifier can help03:46
goofriderI'm waiting another 2 months at least03:46
larsrohdinNermal, there is nothing about composite in my xorg.conf03:46
NermalXappe, I'm on breezy03:46
Nermallarsrohdin, add it03:46
tritiumXappe, no, I'm not, actually.  I'm likely going to setup a breezy chroot on an hoary installation.03:46
Nermalunder the Load "glx" and all that stuff03:46
Titan3025what are you guys trying to do with the nvidia card???03:46
larsrohdinok03:46
Nermaladd a line with Load "composite"03:46
Titan3025perhaps i could help03:46
NermalTitan3025, speed it up ;)03:46
Titan3025hehe03:47
NermalTitan3025, nah.. he wants composite extensions and I think RenderAccel helps03:47
Titan3025kk03:47
Nermalthough it can cause it to be even more unstabl03:47
Titan3025;-903:47
cmbrothAnyone know of a package repository with 'beagle' or should I install from src?03:47
Nermalthink of composite extensions as a firework.  Very pretty, but likely to explode at any time03:47
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larsrohdinNermal, ok done... then what?03:47
Titan3025i have a nvidia tvout tutorial, where u can also find an example config which works quite well03:47
Nermalcmbroth, one sec03:47
yogui i've installed GDlib but imagecreatefromjpeg() is undefined ... why ?03:48
goofriderhttp://beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall03:48
Nermallarsrohdin, try the xcompmgr again03:48
XappeNermal: so, how stable do you find it?03:48
goofriderI'm still reading it03:48
larsrohdinlarsrohdin@ubuntu:~ $ xcompmgr03:48
larsrohdinNo composite extension03:48
cmbrothThanks03:48
goofriderLOL03:48
eruinbeagle is in breezy03:48
eruinfyi03:48
Nermalcmbroth, http://www.beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall03:48
Nermallarsrohdin, erm..03:48
Nermalodd03:48
cmbrothI run Hoary though.. off to RTFM03:48
NermalXappe, I don't use it03:48
Nermalcmbroth, that url is for hoary..03:49
goofriderthose are instructions for Hoary03:49
Titan3025hey... talking about X.Org... does anyq know if there is a way to configure both input devices (touchpad,mouse) separatly? I want the mouse left handed? Is there a way?03:49
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XappeNermal: you just said you were running breexy, right? how can you not use it then?03:49
NermalTitan3025, add another pointer section to your xorg.conf03:49
goofriderbut it doesn't help cuz I've been trying to get the new Mono packages from backport for 3 days03:49
NermalXappe, oops.. I thought you mean composite extensions03:49
XappeNermal: :)03:49
Nermalbreezy is usuable for me atm.. nothing major died yet.. but then again, nothing huge has been upgraded that much03:50
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goofriderNermal: LOL03:50
Nermalsome new gnome packages trickling in, but no major revisions yet03:50
Titan3025Nermal, a pointer section?03:50
XappeNermal: ok, so the total breakage is still to come :)03:50
tritiumXappe, you've seen the topic?03:50
NermalTitan3025, yeah.. thats what mice and things are called in the xorg.conf03:51
Nermalso you would need two pointer sections03:51
Xappetritium: of course03:51
NermalXappe, yah03:51
NermalXappe, and there is no big difference between hoary and breezy yet03:51
Titan3025Nermal, lol... yeah.. but my input devices are both in an InputDevice Section03:51
Nermalin terms of package versions03:51
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NermalTitan3025, hmm03:51
Xappetritium, Nermal: I just want to make sure I won't upgrade :P03:52
Titan3025Nermal, can I specify in the InputDevice section of the mouse that it should be lefthande?03:52
NermalTitan3025, umm.. no idea :|03:52
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Nermalis there an x.org channel ?  :)03:52
goofriderisn't there an option in the mouse control panel to do just that03:52
goofrider?03:52
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Titan3025lets see03:52
Nermalprobably.. but that would be too easy03:52
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goofriderit's there03:52
goofriderLOL03:52
zoddan^wlanHi03:53
Nermal"you must be right handed to click this option" Damn! :)03:53
Nermallo zoddan03:53
goofrideruse your keyboard03:53
cyphasewow, i think i just heard a recommendation for linux on the radio03:53
goofriderLOL03:53
goofrideror touchscreen03:53
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Nermalyah03:53
Titan3025lol03:53
Titan3025ok.. but the gnome mouse properties only configure the first input device..03:53
Nermalhum.. 2 hours to go03:53
NermalTitan3025, yah :|03:54
goofridernow thats a valid concern03:54
Nermalbut you should be able to see what it puts in your xorg.conf03:54
Titan3025but ok.. then i should configure the mouse as first input device and the touchpad as second03:54
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larsrohdinNermal, out of ideas?03:54
TMMhi all!03:54
cyphasehey TMM03:54
Nermallarsrohdin, erm.. yah03:54
larsrohdin=)03:54
Titan3025hope touchpad still works in x.org when no mouse is plugged in ;-)03:54
Nermallarsrohdin, read the howtos ?03:54
TMMis there any way to use mtools instead of the normal vfat driver of linux to access usb sticks?03:55
larsrohdinok03:55
Nermalshould do03:55
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TMMthere's a bug somewhere in the vfat code that makes a couple of usb-storage devices go nuts (not so with mtools)03:55
Nermallarsrohdin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13711&postcount=1003:55
zoddan^wlanfirst time i try ubuntu :)03:55
Nermalzoddan^wlan, you like ? :)03:56
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zoddan^wlanhttp://zoddan.mine.nu/dump.png what do you think ?03:56
xMaximexyou'll like it !03:56
Titan3025Nermal, i will try that... when mouse is first input device i can use gnomes mouse control panel to configure it lefthanded and the touchpad wont be touched03:56
Nermalmmmm.. lining up smilies03:56
goofriderbut isn't mtools designed to access FAT drives WITHOUT mounting them???03:56
zoddan^wlantaking a new screenshot soon03:56
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larsrohdinNermal, can it have something to do with my ati-drivers?03:57
zoddan^wlanwith gkrellm and stuff03:57
Nermalzoddan^wlan, better than my gentoo screenie: http://nermal.org/misc/wtf.png03:57
zoddan^wlanok03:57
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Nermalhours of installing and I get a bloody turtle in a kernel oops03:57
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StarMkeSEHi! I need support how I can access internet via Ubuntu.03:57
Titan3025Nermal, if there is a way in x.org to configure both devices separatly (which i dont know if it is possible at all) i hope that the gnome mouse control panel will have a separate panel for each input device03:57
larsrohdini just saw that i have xorg-driver-fglrx and not fglrx-driver...03:57
NermalStarMkeSE, more information needed03:57
Nermallarsrohdin, try the url I gave you.. I don't think the ati drivers matter03:58
cyphaseStarMkeSE, what kind of connection do you have?03:58
StarMkeSEI ge ip automacticly via dhcp but I have no dhcp-address to add.03:58
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NermalStarMkeSE, if you are using dhcp it should just work03:58
drcodedd2any one know where I can find nice games for linux?03:58
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Nermallinuxgames.org ?03:59
goofriderdid u get an IP via DHCP succesfully?03:59
StarMkeSEit doesn't work :(03:59
drcodedd23d and so like 3d shooter and smaller games?03:59
NermalStarMkeSE, network connection, adsl, cable >03:59
goofriderI had lots of problems with DHCP that I had to use static Ip sintead03:59
StarMkeSEI can get in i windows but not in ubuntu03:59
NermalStarMkeSE, not helpful :A03:59
Nermalwhat connection is it ?03:59
goofriderassign it a static IP see if that works03:59
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StarMkeSEI have ADSL with direct connection to internet04:00
goofriderhow is the ADSL modem connected to your box?04:00
goofriderethernet? USB?04:01
StarMkeSEthrough ethernet04:01
drcodedd2any one know where I can find nice games for linux?04:01
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StarMkeSEUbuntu finds my ethernet-card04:01
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goofriderand is the modem NAT?04:01
MemcmemeWhich is better, Warty or Hoary?04:01
StarMkeSENAT?04:01
Seveasdrcodedd2, search for 'game' in synaptic :)04:01
tritiumMemcmeme, Hoary is the more recent stable release04:01
cyphaselol, i just cut the dynamic firefox counter script in half by removing comments04:01
goofriderwell.. look @ your windows box as see what IP u get04:01
drcodedd2also I love 3d shooter games04:02
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drcodedd2there is some for linux ?04:02
StarMkeSE81.226.141.25004:02
NermalStarMkeSE, does ifconfig say you have an ip address ?04:02
drcodedd2not by wine?04:02
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StarMkeSEIn windows yes04:02
Memcmemedrcodedd2 yes04:02
NermalStarMkeSE, there is no ifconfig in windows04:02
larsrohdinNermal, ok something definately happens... my desktop crashes every time i try xcompmgr...04:02
drcodedd2and in linux04:02
MemcmemeThere is Unreal 2004 and Doom 3 that run natively on Linux04:02
Nermalignore windows04:02
goofriderthere's ipconfig in windows04:02
Di42loCan i compile the lastest kernel without any binaries or patchs ?04:02
NermalI know04:02
Nermalthere is no ifconfig in windows04:02
Nermal</pedantic>04:02
StarMkeSEOkej...04:03
goofriderLOL04:03
Nermalignore windows.. this is linux..  so just see what ifconfig says in linux04:03
StarMkeSEI'm totaly new in linux04:03
drcodedd2I mean is there pure 3d shooter games for linux ?04:03
goofriderthat doesn't sound like a private IP on your Windows box04:03
StarMkeSEIf I need to check Linux, I have to reboot my computer04:03
Nermalits like saying "driving on the right works fine in the US", while hurtling down a road in the UK04:03
mvirkkilGot my Ubuntu CD:s today :)04:03
larsrohdingoofrider, you are right... this sucks... lags all the time..04:03
petemcheh04:03
goofriderNermal: I'm asking him that cuz maybe his windows box is connect via PPPoE04:03
Nermalah :)04:03
Nermalwouldn't ppoe get loaded automatically in ubuntu ?04:04
NermalI wonder if it's a nameserver problem04:04
goofriderso u think he has PPPoE?04:04
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NermalStarMkeSE, try to ping an IP in linux as well as domain names04:04
goofridercuz it sounds like it04:04
XappeStarMkeSE: nice with just another swede around here :)04:04
Emis there a utf-8 migration tool ?  my friend wants to set his system to use utf-8 by default.04:04
StarMkeSEBut i checked in ipconfig in windows what's the address of the DHCP is and I'll try to type it04:04
larsrohdinim swedish!04:04
Di42loCan i compile the newest kernel without any binaries or patchs of ubuntu ??04:04
StarMkeSEHej Lars04:04
larsrohdinHej=)04:05
Xappehej04:05
NermalStarMkeSE, there is no address for DHCP.. the computer will simply ask anyone for an IP04:05
Xappe;)04:05
Nermalie: a broadcast request04:05
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larsrohdinNermal, is there nothing i can do to make it work without all the lag?04:05
Nermalso you won't have to type in any IPs if you use dhcp04:05
StarMkeSEhmmm... It doesn't find the dhcp ..nor during the installation04:05
Nermallarsrohdin, I dunno matey.. I tried it for 15 minutes before I got utterly bored and realised I couldn't see a bloody thing04:05
goofriderlars: what's lagging?04:05
Nermalcomposite :|04:05
larsrohdinthe composite things...04:06
goofrideroh... of course it's slow04:06
goofriderLOL04:06
Nermalit makes you appreciate the graphics being drawn more :)04:06
larsrohdinyeah, but i didn't think it would be THAT slow...04:06
StarMkeSElarsrohdin Linux hittar ingen dhcp, jag har ntverkskortets interna ip men inte mer n s04:06
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larsrohdinits like, 233 mhz and 8mb gfx all over agina her...04:06
Nermal"ooh.. and these beautiful antialiased fonts just etched into the soft suble white background, like snow.."04:06
goofriderI tried alpha transparency in win2k/xp nd it was unbearable04:06
larsrohdinStarMkeSE, va?04:06
Nermalyeah :/04:06
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Nermallike a blonde :) good to look at, but very slow ;)04:07
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goofriderI'm just saying compiste is a HUGE overhead04:07
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larsrohdinNermal, lol04:07
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StarMkeSElarsrohdin jag frsker komma ut p ntet, Linux klagar ver att det inte finns ngon dhcp. Jag kollade i instllningarna och den enda ip jag har 127.0.0.104:07
Nermalgoofrider, it was a little slow on my geforce2, but usuable04:07
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Nermalit just didn't make it any more usuable in terms of productivity04:07
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larsrohdinStarMkeSE, anvnder du gnome?04:08
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StarMkeSElarsrohdin Ubuntu04:08
goofriderdoes compmgr use the graphica card acceleration?04:08
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larsrohdinStarMkeSE, ja men anvnder du gnome som fnsterhanterare?04:09
StarMkeSElarsrohdin ja det tror jag :/04:09
larsrohdinStarMkeSE, ok... vnta04:09
XappeStarMkeSE larsrohdin : svenska i #ubuntu.se om man ska hlla sig till reglerna04:09
Nermalgoofrider, noo.. Option "RenderAccel" helps nvidia cards, but not ATI iirc04:09
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yoguimust i recompil php after Gd install ??04:09
goofriderre: PPPoE. It doesn't just work automatically. Someone have to enter a valid userid/pwd for the PPPoE link04:09
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Nermalyogui, nope :)04:09
yoguinermal : but it doesn't work04:10
goofriderand it won't work if the Windows box is already connected on PPPoE04:10
Nermalyogui, sudo apt-get install php4-gd204:10
Nermal:)04:10
Nermalis the php bit04:10
yoguioki04:10
goofriderstar: did u get your DHCP problem figure out?04:10
goofriderI think php4-gd is actually more current04:10
larsrohdinStarMkeSE, g in i gnome-network-preferences04:10
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Nermalgoofrider, ooh04:10
StarMkeSEMaybe... I'll check it out04:10
goofriderphp4-gd uses GD204:11
Nermalah04:11
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goofriderphp4-gd2 is the OLD module when php4-gd uses the plain libgd04:11
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Nermalah04:11
larsrohdin* how to do that litte star thing04:11
larsrohdinme too me too04:11
petemc /me04:11
yoguiso php4-gd is better ?04:11
Seveasphp4-gd2 isn;t a package04:11
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Seveasit's a virtual package provided by php4-gd04:11
goofrideruse php4-gd04:12
yoguiok04:12
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larsrohdinaha!04:12
goofriderbut letmme doublecheck04:12
=== Nermal pouts
Seveasso both are equally good, they will both install php4-gd04:12
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larsrohdinStarMkeSE, figured it out yet?04:12
goofriderphp4-gd2 doesn't even exist in Ubntu04:12
Seveasit does04:12
Seveasas virtual package04:12
StarMkeSElarsrohdin I need to rebbot my computer first04:12
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=== Nermal has php5-gd installed anyhoo
yoguiand after installtion, i restart apache ?04:13
larsrohdinok, ses04:13
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Nermalyogui, nope :)04:13
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Nermalthe php interpreter gets run every time you request a php page04:13
Nermalso you should just have to reload the page04:13
goofrideri don't see it... I only have the Debian Stable package og php4-gd2 listed (yes I'm a dangerous man)04:13
yoguinermal : it doesn't work04:14
yogui.....04:14
yogui:-(04:14
Nermalhumpf04:14
goofriderphp4-gd does use libgd2 though. I checked04:14
tritiumgoofrider, yes, you are, using backports and all ;)04:14
Nermalyogui, you installed php through apt yes ?04:14
Seveasgoofrider, check apt-cache show php4-gd04:14
yoguiyes04:14
Nermalhum04:14
Seveasit provides php4-gd2 as virtial package04:14
Nermalthat should work :|04:14
yoguii try to reinstall php4 ?04:14
goofriderSeveas: but php4-gd2 is a REAL package in Debian04:14
Nermalyogui, I doubt that will help04:15
Seveaswell, Ubuntu != debian :)04:15
goofriderthe Provides: line was refering to the REAL package it replaces04:15
Nermalyogui, apache is parsing php stuff ok yes ?04:15
Nermalits just dying on gd stuff ?04:15
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yoguiyes04:15
Nermalhmmm04:15
Nermalwhat's the actual error ?04:15
goofrideryogui: did u add the requires lines in the php.ini files?04:16
NermalI didn't think you needed to04:16
yoguino, i don't write anything on php.ini04:16
goofriderwell debconf would have done it for u04:16
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goofriderand u'll have to restart apache if u use modphp04:16
yoguithe error is with imagecreatefromjpeg()04:16
zoddan^wlanhttp://zoddan.mine.nu/ubuntu.png what do you think now ?04:17
Nermalvery nice.. though I prefer gdesklets ;)04:17
goofrideradmn i;m hungry04:17
goofriderI can't type when i'm hungry04:18
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goofriderLOL04:18
Nermalzoddan^wlan, http://nermal.org/gallery/albums/5/54.jpg  for example04:18
Nermalthough thats reasonably old now :|04:18
zoddan^wlanok04:18
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priestis there a netinstall to hoary?04:19
Nermaland psi displays / sensors don't like the new gdesklets04:19
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goofriderpriest: unnfornutaely there isn't04:20
XappeNermal: is that the GNANT icon theme?04:20
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NermalXappe, gant icons yes.. not an actual theme as such04:20
XappeNermal: ok04:21
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Nermalgah.. I have to do battle with a windows machine :(04:21
njassasomeone who now how to get soundsticks too work in ubuntu?04:21
spidnahi guys how do i get and  install xmms04:21
goofriderNermel: burn it burn it04:22
Nermalsudo apt-get install xmms04:22
yoguiif i make a phpinfo, i must have GD lines ?04:22
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jamesiomorning04:22
spidnaNermal that does not work for me04:22
goldfish_spidna: apt-get install xmms04:22
goofrideryogui. Phpinfo should tell u if GD is enabled04:22
Nermalspidna, you on 64 bit ?04:22
goofriderif not, the php.ini lines are missing04:22
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yoguiok so it isn't04:22
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goofriderDebconf possibly only added the lines to php-cli and php-cgi but not mod-php404:23
goldfish_zoddan^wlan: what irssi theme is that, a custom one?04:23
goofriderjust add it manually04:23
reD_Rumhow do i enable dma acceleration for my cdrom drive  (/dev/hdc) ?04:23
spidnai'm getting xmms has no installation candidate04:23
NermalreD_Rum, sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/<cddevice>04:24
goofriderhow do u know DMA is not enabled?04:24
Nermalso hdc in this case04:24
goofriderjust wondering.. since a lot of ppl asked about DMA04:24
Nermalgoofrider, it's not on cdrom drives for some reason04:24
tritiumgoofrider, hdparm will tell you04:24
reD_RumNermal: thanks04:24
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yoguii try to add the line04:24
NermalreD_Rum, I'm not sure how to make that permenant the ubuntu way :|04:24
reD_RumNermal: I'll just add it to a start up script04:25
jamesioanyone know the commandline to untar/gzip many files at one time?04:25
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Fator_Deecan't you just edit the /etc/hdparm.conf?04:25
reD_Rumjamesio: just use the wildcard (*)04:25
Nermaltar xzvf <filename>04:25
goofriderkewl thanks Nermal04:25
goldfish_Fator_Dee: u can04:25
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Nermalso filename could be *.tar.gz / etc04:26
njassais it someone who now how to get soundsticks too work in ubuntu?04:26
jamesioah... I put "tar -xzvf *.gz"  I guess the "-" was the bug04:26
goofridersoundsticks?04:26
Nermaljamesh, both should work04:27
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Nermalare you sure they are all tar.gz files not some .gz files04:27
Zindarjamesio: no.. that will not work04:27
Zindarjamesio: the first argument is the file to unpack... the next are the files within that you want to unpack04:27
Zindarso you cannot go "tar xzvf *tar.gz"04:27
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Zindarit will not work04:28
Zindaryou have to do "for f in *.tar.gz; do tar xzvf $f; done04:28
Zindarthat works04:28
Nermalah04:28
jamesiothanks04:28
Nermalgood old bash :)04:28
jamesioyou're the man04:28
Zindaryes :)04:28
jamesioreminds me of dos too04:28
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jamesioI downloaded the gkrellm2 theme pack and it had 197 tar.gz files04:29
goldfish_lol04:29
goldfish_yeah :)04:29
jamesioand it seems it wants them unpacked into their own dirs04:29
goldfish_it's annoying04:29
goldfish_just use that for loop04:29
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Zindarjamesio: all well behaved tar-files unpack themselves with own dirs :)04:29
Nermalyah04:29
Nermalthere is a tar option to probably ignore it04:29
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jamesiook... now... here's the next job....  got an easy way to partition a lot of drives with just simple ext3 and all the space on the drive?04:29
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jamesioI have 13 hard drives on my machine, but using gparted takes way too long04:30
Nermaljamesh, hmm.. fdisk ? :)04:30
jamesio(before anyone asks, I'm staying away from raid)04:30
goofriderdon't use fdisk04:30
goofrideruse sfdisk or parted04:30
Nermalsfdisk ? :|04:30
jamesiook...  I'll pull up their docs04:30
goofridereven fdisk's man page recommend again fdisk04:30
goofriderLOL04:31
jamesiothanks.  I'll look them up and see how I could script it04:31
Nermal:)04:31
jamesioit takes about a minute or so for a 300 gig drive to partition and format04:31
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jamesiook, people really made some freaky ass themes for gkrellm204:32
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chrissturmhow can i rescue as much data as possible from a hdd that has read errors?04:35
reD_Rumif i wanna add DMA acceleration by default i add "/dev/hdc { dma = on }" to hdparm.conf?04:35
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goofriderchrissturm: depends on what errors.04:35
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goofriderand what file system04:35
chrissturmits ext304:35
jamesiochrissturm, if it's really bad I suggest you invest in spinrite 604:35
REdzu need to debug it and ge the specific error04:35
REdzdifferent errors vary and mean alot of diff thing04:35
goofriderSpinRite is gr804:35
chrissturmand the kernel says something like unrecoverablereaderror04:36
jamesiospinrite is the best04:36
chrissturmisnt spinrite just fat?04:36
jamesioit *will* recover the data04:36
jamesionomasteryoda, it does ext2 and ext3 now04:36
jamesioversion 604:36
chrissturmkewl04:36
tritiumchrissturm, what filesystem were you using, out of curiosity?04:36
chrissturmext304:36
krat3ri'm having a problem... the terminal doesn't recongnize any cmd it always appear this "bash: <cmd>: command not found"04:36
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goofriderspinrite works @ the sector level04:37
jamesiobut it also recognizes and will work with partitions04:37
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krat3rgoofrider, can you help me?04:38
jamesiotrue, the recovery is at the sector level, but it will let you work on just a partition04:38
goofriderwhy me/??04:38
goofriderLOL04:38
goldfish_lol04:38
goldfish_krat3r: what command are you running?04:38
goofrideri'm just saying that it trys to read each sector and mvoe it to another good sector04:39
krat3reach one i run, for example "ls" or "./configure"04:39
goldfish_oh dear04:39
goldfish_ls is not found?04:39
goofriderkrater: sounds like a bad PATH04:39
krat3ryeah04:39
REdzget another hard drive and use dd04:39
REdzand dd the whole lot to the newer disk04:39
goofrideror u mounted some random partition as /04:39
Nermalkrat3r, you are just typing ls04:39
Nermalno quotes, nothing /04:40
krat3ryeah04:40
Nermalerm04:40
Nermalwhat does export |grep PATH say ?04:40
krat3rwith the bar ??04:40
Nermalyah04:40
krat3r| ??04:40
NermalYAH04:41
krat3rbash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'04:41
Nermalmit das bar04:41
Nermalummm04:41
goofrideror just "echo $PATH"04:41
goldfish_lol04:41
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goofriderwhat???04:41
Nermal:)04:41
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Nermaleep04:42
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Fator_Deehey, how could I find out all those $PATH and other $-thingys there are on my system?04:42
tritiumenv04:42
Nermalooh04:42
Fator_Deeoo, thanks04:42
Nermalis env different to export04:42
Nermalah yes.. it seems to be :|04:43
goofriderhow is env gonna work if ls doesn't work?04:43
krat3recho $PATH - results in " /home/enzo/mono1.1.4/bin "... there's something wrong here04:43
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krat3rthat's not my username04:43
goofriderI though ls is a bash built in as well as cmd04:43
goofriderkra: is that the full path?04:43
Nermalkrat3r, I think you've / or a script has done export PATH=/path/to/somewhere  not export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/somewhere04:43
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Nermalthus replacing the path not appending it04:44
Nermalhave you edited ~/.profile or .bashrc ?04:44
krat3r.bashrc ... i was trying to install mono with monodevelop04:45
Nermalin which case.. make sure you are doing export PATH=$PATH:/extra/path/here not just export PATH=/extra/path/here04:45
Nermalkrat3r, ahh04:45
Nermalerm... k...04:45
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Nermalwhat editor did you use ?04:45
krat3rgedit04:45
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krat3rthrough the cmd line04:45
Nermalah04:45
Nermalwell do /usr/bin/gedit ~/.bashrc04:46
Nermaland edit it again..04:46
goofriderkrat3r: but who's enzo?04:46
Nermalor show us the line you added04:46
goofriderwhy did mono install to someone else's path?04:46
mmichellii need "modprobe snd-seq " to run automatically, what the best way?04:47
digituswhere do i find the config file of gedit? (i can't find a .gedit in my home dir) i need my customized python highlighting04:47
Nermalerm.. it didn't it looks like he's installed it manually to his home dir04:47
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krat3rthere's more than one04:47
goofriderkra: u said it wasn't your username04:47
Nermaldigitus, gconf-editor04:47
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krat3rNermal, there's more that one line04:47
Nermalgoofrider, unless he copied the howto exactly :|04:47
krat3ri've done it through cmd line04:47
goofriderNermal: Doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:47
Nermalkrat3r, the export PATH line is the one you want04:47
Nermaland mono is in apt as is monodevelop04:48
Nermalso you shouldn't need to do all this04:48
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Nermalbest thing is to delete the lines you added, save the file and start over using apt04:48
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krat3rNermal, but with the version in the apt-get the monodevelop doesn't compile or build04:48
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Nermalkrat3r, sudo apt-get install monodevelop ?04:48
krat3ryeah04:49
Nermalthat's already built04:49
Nermalthat should just work(tm)04:49
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mp3jwhy does ubntu live cd trying to install itself when i run it?04:49
krat3rbut with that version the icons in the monodevelop doesn't work, or the commands to compile or build the source04:50
Nermalerm because you've download the wrong cd04:50
krat3rdo you get it?04:50
Nermaldownloaded*04:50
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goofridermp3j: Ubuntu Live doesn't install itself. The live installer just need to detect some hardware04:50
Nermalkrat3r, umm.. I imagine you can get a newer version .. one sec04:50
mp3joh ok04:50
mp3ji was afraid it was trying to install itself04:51
goofriderbut if it ask u to partition your drive, then it;s the wrong CD04:51
goofriderLOL04:51
mp3jno iit didnt asked that yet04:51
Nermalkrat3r, mono 1.1.6 is in backports04:51
digitusNermal, i cant find a file named "gconf-editor"04:51
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mp3jit says theres is a problem trying to read from my cd rom is this a bug?04:52
mp3jmy cd rom is running fine04:52
mockerhmm04:52
goofridermp3j: nah, just bad CD04:52
krat3ryes, i've alreay installed mono 1.1.6 and monodevelop 0.5.1, and that's when the problems happened04:52
mockerShouldn't my root password be the same one as my sudo one?04:52
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mp3ji just burn this image04:52
goofriderthere's no root password04:52
mp3jusing k3b04:52
mockerwhat do you do when it asks you for the root password then?04:53
mp3jlemme changee to my other dvd drive04:53
goofridermp3j: an it can still be a bad burn.04:53
goldfish_mocker: enter ur sudo one.04:53
Nermaldigitus, it's a command04:53
Nermalgnome uses an xml config file format04:53
elcumocker: when does it ask for your root pswd?04:53
digitusoops ok :>04:53
mp3juhh04:53
Nermalkrat3r, hmm.. I can see how to get mono 1.1.6 but not a new monodevelop :|04:54
mp3jcorrupt image04:54
mp3jhmm04:54
goofriderNermal: check the Mono for Deiban project packge04:54
goofriderthey have a newer Monodevelop as well I believe04:54
Nermalgoofrider, ah.. it's for krat3r :)04:54
goofriderright right04:54
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goldfish_hello Echylo04:55
mp3jhow big should be 5.04 live 386?04:55
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Echyloheey :)04:55
mp3j200 and something?04:55
Nermalmp3j, try 60004:55
Echylo500?04:55
goofrider600 something04:55
mp3jshit04:55
Nermal:)04:55
mp3jthanks04:55
Nermalwhat did you download it with ?04:55
goofridernp04:55
mp3jlemme get it again04:55
Nermalwget ? firefox ?04:55
goofriderLMAO04:55
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mp3jmozilla04:55
Echylowait let me check I got it on my pc04:55
Nermalhmm.. ok :)04:55
goofrideruse BitTorrent04:55
goofriderfor the love of god and bandwidth04:56
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EchyloI downloaded it with torrent04:56
Echyloat 350 kbs04:56
Echylomy max04:56
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mp3ji got my image 58604:56
Echyloits 624.9MB ;)04:56
goofriderand it hashes the file, so there's no chance it'll be corrupted or incomplete04:56
goofrider:)04:56
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mp3jhow come it did not burn right md5 check sum on k3b said it was ok04:57
Echyloubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso = > 624.9MB04:57
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cyphase*happy sigh* i can't wait until Breezy comes out04:59
jamesiojust had an interesting thing show up.  I partitioned an external usb2 300 gig drive using gparted, but sfdisk says that the partition is the wrong size and should be recreated04:59
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cyphaseif they can get all the features on the Brezzy goals list...04:59
cyphasewow04:59
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mp3jok im downloading again05:00
alexandrere05:00
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alexandreis there a way to change the "gnome splash screen", where there is ubuntu written (after login into gdm)05:00
goofriderjamesio: I don't know what I can tell u. Parted, sfdisk, and fdisk like to disagree a lot05:00
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elcualexandre: system->admin->login05:01
Nermalcyphase, url ?05:01
jamesiogoofrider, that's funny.  so, which is the "most stable" of programs?05:01
goofriderfdisk should be the least trusted. between sfdisk and parted, I don't know. It's been case by case basis for me05:01
alexandreelcu no, not this one05:02
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goofriderI tend to use GUI apps (PartitionMagic and Acronis) and they like to disagree sometimes as well05:02
elcualexandre: ah, you mean that little banner?05:02
alexandreyep05:02
jamesiogoofrider, you don't happen to know how to tell sfdisk to use "all of the disk", do you?  the --help doesn't show anything like it05:02
goofrideryour best shot is dump the art table from but parted and sfdisk and compare them to what u KNOW is the correct spec05:02
jamesiogoofrider, I have too many disks to sit down and figure out their sizes...05:03
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elcualexandre: no idea. sorry. /join #gnome perhaps05:03
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goofriderjamesio: I don't think sfdisk has such feature. It seems to REQUIRES start/end params05:03
jamesiogoofrider, that's even funnier... I have no idea what the specs are supposed to be for all of the drives.  I've blown away my windows server and am starting fresh in ubuntu05:03
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reD_Rumwhen i'm playing something with xmms (i've tried both ALSA and OSS), if i open another application, sound on it will not work. How can I have sound working both on multiple applications at once?05:04
goofriderjamesio: I know it kinda sucks. But I think your best shot is first figure out if the sfidk warning is anything to worry about and if parted did the right job05:04
jamesiogoofrider, put yourself in my shoes... I have 14 hard drives (7 internal, 7 external usb2) ranging in size from 80 gig to 300 gig05:04
goofridercuz if it does, u can use just parted as is05:04
paulproteusreD_Rum: You must use the eSounD output in XMMS.05:04
spHi. I installed ubuntu hoary from the CD just. How do i change my screen resolution? my monitor does 1280, but the currently X is at 102405:05
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reD_Rumpaulproteus: it doesn't work05:05
paulproteusBut you should prefer Beep Media Player to XMMS.  BMP is a drop-in replacement that uses a modern UI toolkit, unlike XMMS.05:05
elcujamesio: that's a lot of porn. ;-)05:05
jamesiogoofrider, and I want to partition each as a separate drive...  (just how I do things for safety sakes)05:05
jamesiohahahahhaa05:05
goofriderjames: I know you pain. I had to manage 5-7 partitions on 2 drives and I'm about to explode sometimes05:05
paulproteusreD_Rum: What exactly doesn't work?05:05
paulproteusThe esd output?05:05
jamesiofunny thing, I have 0 porn on any of mymachine05:05
paulproteusOr Beep media player?05:05
jamesioeruin, my machines05:05
reD_Rumpaulproteus: If i try using esound, then it gives me an error saying couldn't open audio05:06
paulproteusreD_Rum: What desktop?  KDE or GNOME?05:06
jamesioI did have 100's of dvds that I ripped from my collection for a media player, but one crash caused me to drop windows like a bad gf05:06
reD_Rumpaulproteus: GNOME05:06
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jamesiohowdy thor05:06
paulproteusreD_Rum: It's very strange that esd wouldn't work, then.  It could have to do with you trying the other output schemes first.05:07
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spCan someone help? I want to increase resolution from 1024 to 128005:07
thoreauputichi jamesio05:07
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thoreauputic:)05:07
jamesiogoofrider, I think I'm going with gparted... even though I bitched that it's slow, it does at least allow me "ease of use"05:07
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elcureD_Rum: i'd recommending searching ubuntuforums.org first.  or you could take a look at: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly i have no idea what that does though.05:08
jamesiogoofrider, and it seems to work... just wish there were an easy way to auto add any new partitions to /etc/fstab05:08
goofriderjames: can u use the sfdisk -s option to get each hdd's size, then pass it to sfidsk again to partition it?05:08
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alexandreis there a tool to manually edit gnome menu?05:08
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elcualexandre: vim?05:08
cyphasedoes anyone know of a good BIND config tool?05:08
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sigalexandre: yes05:08
elcualexandre: sudo gedit /boot/grub/,menu.lst05:09
goofriderjames: gparted use the parted library, so u'll still have the same error from sfdisk05:09
elcus/,menu.lst/menu.lst05:09
sigalexandre: http://ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor05:09
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thoreauputicelcu: er..no05:09
sigelcu: dude "gnome menu"05:09
signot the boot menu05:09
sighah05:09
spsig, can you help me a bit?05:09
elcuthoreauputic: ah, whoops. :-) i think i need some sleep05:09
jamesiohehehehe... total blocks: 31,228,119,98805:09
sigsp with what05:09
goofriderI'm not a huge fan of sfdisk interface, but the parition tables it generate seems to be best quality05:10
jamesiooops05:10
thoreauputicelcu: :)05:10
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spsig, i just installed 5.04 and want to incrase screen resolution from 1024 to 1280... how do i do it?05:10
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jamesiototal blocks: 3,122,819,98805:10
g0dotcan I change the default size of the terminal window?05:10
medicationhas anyone addressed the install issue of stalling at 25% during  "Configuring apt..." ?05:10
medicationsee this thread as a reference: http://tinyurl.com/dkt4605:10
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sigsp ok: System > Preference > Screen Resolution05:11
sigchange it there05:11
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spsig, that does'nt show 1280 :( but my screen does 128005:11
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cyphasedoes anyone know of a good BIND config tool?05:12
goofriderjamesio: sorry if I can't be more helpful. Partitiong is something I've been struggling with05:12
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sigsp ok open up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look at the very bottom, you'll see screen resolutions, is 1280x1024 in there?05:12
spwait.05:12
jamesiogoofrider, nah... you have been helpful.  you've shown to me that it's "not just me"05:12
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Nermalcyphase, webmin ?05:13
cmg_i have a list that I need to convert every element in.  Is it better to use list comprehensions, or to use map or filter along with a lambda function?05:13
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goofriderI gurantee u fdisk sucks though. Fdisk wrote a part table with oartitions that ended outside my hdd physical boundary05:13
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goofriderit05:13
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cmg_lol sorry wrong channel05:13
goofriderit's scary05:13
cyphaseNermal, i don't want to have to install webmin05:13
medicationsorry all05:13
comforteaglehow do I add my new usb wireless card to ubuntu?05:13
Nermalcyphase, ah :|05:13
jamesiothis is just a learning experience for me.  I am slowly moving things to linux... been at it for a week and use it more each day05:13
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sigcomforteagle: plug it in05:13
spsig, nope there is'nt, sadly.05:13
sigit should recognize it05:13
sigsp ok sudo -s05:13
Nermalcomforteagle, plug it in and hope.. if not, read up on ndiswrapper ?05:13
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Nermalwhat wifi dongle is it ?05:14
goofridercyphase: do u have to use BIND? can u se DNSmasq? (Which is a please to use)05:14
spsig, what password do i put in?05:14
goofriderwhich is a pleasure*** to use05:14
spsig, ok, i am root now.05:14
Nermalyour user pass05:14
jamesioI took my inspiron and put xp back on it (was using it as a test machine) in preparation for me to move all my "xp stuff" to it and make my desktop ubuntu only05:14
sigthen add 1280x1024 to the xorg.conf and restart X then try the System > Preferences > Screen Resolution05:14
reD_Rumokay.. i got esound to work. but now in audacity sound doesn't work and there are no devices listed05:14
sigcomforteagle: plug it in05:14
spsig, ok, be back in a bit :)05:14
NermalreD_Rum, I'd use alsa05:14
Nermal:)05:14
Nermalsound daemons just make things more complicated05:15
jamesiogoofrider, know of an easy way to add partitions to /etc/fstab (short of editing it myself?)05:15
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reD_RumNermal: but alsa doesn't let me use sound on multiple applications05:15
sigonce it's plugged in comforteagle  go to: System > Administration > Networking05:15
NermalreD_Rum, it should do05:15
comforteaglesig: plugged it in.. is there a networking wizard?  It isn't showing up in network admin05:15
comforteagledamn05:15
NermalreD_Rum, unless you have an ISA soundcard05:15
NermalPCI soundcards usually do hardware mixing05:15
g0dotis there an ubuntu install cd which is completely compiled for i686?05:15
sigcomforteagle: what card is it?05:15
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comforteagledlink05:15
Nermalg0dot, nope05:15
thoreauputicg0dot: no05:15
reD_RumNermal: nope.. built in pci05:15
sigshould work05:15
Nermalg0dot, why would you need that ?05:16
sighold on05:16
goofriderjames: nope. u can try wrting a script to create mount point and add ti ftsab for u05:16
reD_RumNermal: worked with windows05:16
NermalreD_Rum, useless info05:16
Nermalit should work with alsa05:16
g0dotNermal: wouldn't it run a bit faster?05:16
Nermalg0dot, probably not05:16
SilvioTOHi, help please, I have problem with D-Link DSL-502T ADSL router in Hoary; connect but don't browse web. Thanks.05:16
Nermalconsidering most apps spend their time waiting for user input05:17
jamesiogoofrider, what I think I'm going to do is physically label all the exernal drives one-by-one and partition/name them in ubuntu with the label name05:17
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Nermalyou'd get far bigger performance gains chosing the right filesystem etc05:17
jamesiogoofrider, that way I can easily know which drive I need to take off in case of failure05:17
g0dotNermal: I'm running it on a p2 and gnome is really sluggish, so it was just a thought :)05:17
NermalSilvioTO, can you ping stuff ?05:17
goofriderg0dot: Ubuntu packages are alrready optimzed for 686, they just don't REQUIRE 68605:17
Nermalg0dot, hmm.. gnome is quite heavy now :|05:17
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goofrideror so I was told by a dev in Ubuntuforums05:18
g0dotobviously05:18
thoreauputicg0dot: install xfce4 or one of the light window managers05:18
g0dotok goofrider05:18
SilvioTOI don't tryed.05:18
reD_RumNermal: nope.. at least audacity doesn't work05:18
sigcomforteagle: do you have the ndiswrapper installed?05:18
Xappeg0dot: XFce4 would be an alternative on a p2 I guess05:18
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thoreauputicg0dot: the new xfce is very nice05:18
comforteaglesig: I'll check05:18
NermalSilvioTO, give us some more info then05:18
siglsmod05:18
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goofriderjames: if I were u, I'd do a super-RAID/LVM farm05:19
amarohey guys.. wanna watch something funny... it's about linux: http://www.transbuddha.com/mediaHolder.php?id=17405:19
AstralJavaDoes anyone have any ideas on how to progress; I'd need to be able to boot from USB stick, and I tried to install grub onto it when I installed Hoary, but now it doesn't seem to be there, and the LiveCD doesn't have that in it. I cannot install grub onto MBR, so I have no means to boot to the existing Hoary on the laptop.05:19
sigcomforteagle: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23307.html <---- I found this link here05:19
g0dotyeah someone else suggested xfc4 to me already. maybe it would be a better choice05:19
signot sure if it will help or not05:19
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Nermalifconfig give you ip? nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf? ps ax show dhclient running ?05:19
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goofridertransbuddha.com??? hehehehehehe05:19
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comforteaglesig: thanks..05:19
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sigcomforteagle: wait!05:19
reD_Rumok neither does other stuff05:20
jamesiogoofrider, everyone keeps telling me that...  in windows I set the drives up individually and used robocopy to duplicate data to like-sized drives.  it worked for me... never lost anything (even after 2 bad "re-install the os" crashes)05:20
SilvioTOhow I ping? from router? from console?05:20
NermalSilvioTO, from console05:20
sig DLink? Fast Ethernet (via-rhine driver) <--- is this what you have comforteagle ?05:20
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Nermalbut try ifconfig first, see if eth0 is up05:20
Nermalsig, it's usb05:21
amarothat flash was amusing, was it not?05:21
sigNermal: it is "usb"05:21
SilvioTOplease write me a command, an example, thanks05:21
goofriderAstralJava: do u need the USB stick to be a self-contained bootable enviroment, or just an emrgency boot kernel?05:21
sigso it wouldn't be eth005:21
Nermalsig, oh :)05:21
Nermalwell. it would be05:21
Nermalsig, and that was for SilvioTO anyway :P05:21
sigcomforteagle: unplug it then  plug it back in and type: dmesg05:21
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sigsee what the output prints at the bottom05:21
goofriderAstralJava: either way, try using syslinux as a bottloader. It's better for removable media05:21
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NermalSilvioTO, ping 216.239.37.9905:21
AstralJavagoofrider: It should just contain enough information so that I could boot into that Hoary install. Not sure if it should have kernel itself or grub that points to correct partition.05:22
medicationseems i may have been a bit hasty jumping to kubuntu...05:22
osityanyone know how to setup software raid1?05:22
AstralJavagoofrider: Syslinux? Okay, I'll look into it.05:22
SilvioTOthanks, I try and reconnect... one moment.05:22
StarMkeSEDamned! My internet connection in Ubuntu still refuses to connect :(05:22
goofriderAstralJava: then u don't need grub on the USB stick, use syslinux05:22
medicationdoes anyone have some insight into what i can do to get past the stall at 25% of "Configuring apt..."05:22
medication?05:22
NermalStarMkeSE, what connection ?05:22
AstralJavagoofrider: Alright then. Thanks! :)05:22
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Shuflahello ubuntiers :)05:23
sigmedication: ctrl + c05:23
sigtry again?05:23
medicationagain... for anyone interested here's a thread about the issue: http://tinyurl.com/dkt4605:23
Nermalmedication, anything on the other consoles ?05:23
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osityhas anyone setup software raid one ? i need a walkthrough...05:23
medicationsig: i've jumped out of the install at the configure user part... but haven't really had luck getting the install to continue from that part05:24
Nermalosity, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html05:24
NermalGOOGLE05:24
medicationNermal: what other consoles?05:24
Shuflaosity: it can be made with installer. btw google for "linux software raid", there is very good howto05:24
Nermalalt-f<etc>05:24
thoreauputicoh boy.. Konversation is a useless client.... back soon on another one05:24
medicationahhh05:24
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medicationdon't know... but once it hits the stall the machine is frozen05:24
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Nermalhmmmm05:25
Nermalmay be an irq issue :|05:25
osityshufla:  i have had 0 luck weith the howto's ....none talk about the partitions,,,,do you know how to setup the partitioner?05:25
Nermalbut I dunno05:25
medicationno ability to esc /ctrl-c/alt-f05:25
Shuflahow do i set up gnome, to have entry "Always on top" on special window menu? (i assume to use gconf, my net is lagged, google almost impossibile)05:25
Nermalosity, what partitioner ?05:25
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goofridermedication: not sure what the installer doing at the time its stalled, but u might consider using debootstrap to install ubuntu as a last resort05:25
ositythere is a partitioner in ubuntu....05:25
medicationdebootstrap?05:25
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Shuflaosity: there's some words about partitions. you cannot set up more then 1 parttition on /dev/md?, use LVM or make /dev/md[1-...]  for any partition05:25
ZambbaCan I install kernel with apt-get in Ubuntu ?05:26
ZambbaLike I can in Debian05:26
thoreauputicZambba: yes05:26
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Zambba^^05:26
osityin hoary ...you can setup raid with the an interface...but i've had no luck....there seems to be lots of ways i guess....05:26
osityi'm looking for someonw that has done it.05:26
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goofridermedication: U can use the live cd, run debootstrap and write a minial OS to the hard drive, chroot to it, and download the rest of the OS of the net05:26
Zambbas*it my firefox halted when I was downloading Ubuntu :(05:26
thoreauputicZambba: apt-cache search linux-image and choose one05:26
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Shuflaosity: yes. read thourht raid howto - you *cannot* setup more than one partition on /dev/md05:27
StarMkeSENermal I still can't access.. I tried to use static IP and ifconfig says 127.0.0.1 as IP05:27
ZambbaHmm.. if I download most recent Ubuntu from the website do I have 2.6 kernel?05:27
thoreauputicZambba: try wget -c <URL>05:27
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Shufla(sorry for my english)05:27
tritiumZambba, but don't choose 2.6.11 in hoary (it's unsupported)05:27
Zambbaok05:27
thoreauputicZambba: yes, 2.6.10-505:27
medicationgoofrider: I've used the Live CD just to make sure that my system was supported05:27
NermalStarMkeSE, thats localhost05:27
osityshufla:  i have no idea how to setup the partitions.......(do i make a swap etc..)  if anyone has setup this on hoary ....help would be appreciated.....05:27
SilvioTOresult of ping:   from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination net unreachable. (My routeris connected with lan cable, and not usb)05:28
NermalStarMkeSE, what happens if you run dhclient eth0 ?05:28
medicationgoofrider: but how do i go about mounting my hdd05:28
Nermalor rather sudo dhclient eth005:28
StarMkeSENermal it refuses... I doesn't recognize the command05:28
goofrideruse the live cd to partition and mount the hdd on a mountpoint... like /mnt/newdrive05:28
g0dotcan I install a second window manager and switch between them?05:28
NermalStarMkeSE, what is the error ?05:28
medicationgoofrider: thanks! i'll give that a shot05:29
Xappeg0dot: yes05:29
goofrideruse debootstrap to write a minimal OS there, chroot to it, and download the rest of the OS05:29
thoreauputicg0dot: yes05:29
NermalSilvioTO, and if you run  sudo dhclient eth0 ?05:29
goofridergoogle for further instructions05:29
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NermalSilvioTO, and if you run  sudo dhclient eth0 ?05:29
medicationcheers05:29
goofriderthere are several howtos on the web05:29
SilvioTOresult of ping:   from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination net unreachable. (My routeris connected with lan cable, and not usb)05:29
g0dotok goofrider05:29
medicationthanks a bunch...05:29
thoreauputicg0dot: in fact you can install 3 or 4 if you wish05:29
NermalSilvioTO, ran the command I said ?05:29
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StarMkeSENermal When I try to access internet it says "connection refused..." and I don't get any ip from DHCP even if I type dhcpcd eth0 in the root05:29
g0dotthoreauputic: how would I switch between them?05:30
comforteaglesig: dmesg spat a load of info back at me.05:30
SilvioTOha, ok, I go... on moment05:30
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sigcomforteagle: pastebin.com05:30
NermalStarMkeSE, dhcpcd isn't in ubuntu I said dhclient05:30
thoreauputicg0dot: log out and choose a different one05:30
Nermalplease read what I type05:30
goofriderg0dot: GDM and KDM will let u choose between most windows managers if u have them installed05:30
g0dotah nice05:30
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mezI need a little help05:30
thoreauputicg0dot: the login screen will give you session alternatives05:30
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mezI cant seem to get my PC to function in Graphgical mode unless I completely delete my XFree86Config05:31
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g0dotdidn't know it was that easy05:31
Nermaland "it says connection refused" could mean anything05:31
StarMkeSENermal It doesn't like if I just typed SU05:31
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NermalStarMkeSE, you typed sudo dhclient eth005:31
Nermalyes ?05:31
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StarMkeSENermal I didn't like just the command SU...maybe it's default?05:31
NermalSU ?05:32
Nermalwhy are you typing SU ?05:32
mezcan anyone help me05:32
StarMkeSEA friend told me05:32
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NermalStarMkeSE, for the love of god05:32
thenukemez: no one knows.05:32
Nermalread what I type05:32
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thenukemez: so.. no one answers..05:32
mez:(05:32
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thoreauputicStarMkeSE: you probably mean `su` (lower case) but we use sudo in Ubuntu :)05:32
goofridermedication: hey I read the forum thread... Did u try static IP in the installer?05:32
amarodamn, mplayer doesn't let you right click it when it's embedded in webpages05:33
Nermalamaro, new versions do05:33
Nermal2.80 for example05:33
StarMkeSEthoreauputic Aha! I'm not used at linux at all05:33
medicationgoofrider: no i hadn't tried that yet... at what point would i set the static address?05:33
NermalStarMkeSE, sudo dhclient eth005:33
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amaroNermal, i'll check out which version I have05:33
NermalI think 2.70 is in hoary05:33
thoreauputicStarMkeSE: I suggest you read the howtos on the wiki and the FAQ05:33
goofridermedication: when it configure your LAN card05:34
NermalI had to get 2.80 via a different repo05:34
comforteagle_sig: http://pastebin.com/28216205:34
thoreauputicStarMkeSE: I'll give you a URL05:34
thoreauputicStarMkeSE: hang on05:34
StarMkeSEthoreauputic Alright! I'll do so :)05:34
goofridermedication: choose expert mode mgith give u more options05:34
SilvioTOInternet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.105:34
SilvioTOCopyright 2004 Internet Systems Consortium.05:34
SilvioTOAll rights reserved.05:34
SilvioTOFor info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP05:34
SilvioTOsit0: unknown hardware address type 77605:34
SilvioTOsit0: unknown hardware address type 77605:34
SilvioTOListening on LPF/eth0/00:0e:2e:01:13:fe05:34
SilvioTOSending on   LPF/eth0/00:0e:2e:01:13:fe05:34
SilvioTOSending on   Socket/fallback05:34
SilvioTODHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 6705:34
SilvioTODHCPNAK from 192.168.1.105:34
SilvioTODHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 805:34
SilvioTODHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.105:34
SilvioTODHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 6705:34
SilvioTODHCPACK from 192.168.1.105:34
SilvioTObound to 192.168.1.3 -- renewal in 1520 seconds.05:34
medicationgoofrider: right right... i've been using the default install method05:34
goldfish_uh oh05:34
tritiumSilvioTO, please don't paste like that05:35
thoreauputicStarMkeSE: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions  and05:35
NermalStarMkeSE, kindly explain why you are willing to listen to thoreauputic and not listen to 3 requests from me to enter the command stated05:35
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medicationgoofrider: i'll give that the expert mode install a shot and try using a static ip05:35
NermalSilvioTO, so you have an IP...05:35
StarMkeSENermal I'm listening to you but I need to read more about this to. I'm writning down all what you have said05:36
medicationgoofrider: that actually sounds like a potential solution05:36
NermalSilvioTO, try sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.105:36
thoreauputicStarMkeSE: also read and follow http://ubuntuguide.org05:36
sig#05:36
sig#05:36
sigusb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 305:36
NermalI think I've had enough of noobs for today05:36
Nermalbye all05:36
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goofridermedication: hope it works05:36
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goofriderLMAo05:37
medicationgoofrider: Thanks!05:37
goofriderpoor Nermal05:37
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SilvioTOthe ip 192.168.1.1is router ip.05:37
s_yuan31teehi05:37
goofrideru know... some of u guys are thankless  LMAO05:37
mezwhere does ubuntu get tis default settings from05:37
mezfor X05:37
comforteagle_sig: still doesn't show up in networking05:37
mezif there's no XF86Config05:37
sigcomforteagle_: odd05:37
s_yuan31teei need to install zlib1g-dev in order to install libpng10-dev05:37
sigtry googling for it05:37
goofriderxorg.conf05:37
amaroNermal, yup, I have version 2.705:38
s_yuan31teehowever, i dun find zlib1g-dev in my respitotary05:38
guupstarespiratory system05:38
thoreauputicmez: on Hoary it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:38
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goofriderfor the cmd tool, use xorgconfig05:38
comforteagle_sig: there's no pwr light either05:38
mezdoesnt exist05:39
fsmwhi all!05:39
sigcomforteagle_: it sounds like it doesn't have a driver/module assigned to it05:39
sigyou need to find what driver you need for it05:39
thoreauputicmez: it should :)05:39
comforteagle_is there a ndiswrapper pkg for ubuntu?05:39
fsmwi got problems trying to run gmailfs on ubuntu, googling it seems that is a know problem but there's no solution available yet05:39
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s_yuan31teeHello, can anyone tell me where i can get zlib1g-dev for my warty :(05:41
amaroAnyone knows which repository includes mplayer version 2.8?05:41
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SilvioTOSIOCADDRT: the file already exist05:42
spsig: hey, thanks. i got 1280 resolution :)05:43
ositycan raid be setup through x?05:43
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sphpnadig: hey, you the same on on orkut?05:44
hpnadigyep05:44
sphpnadig: nice :) your on my cousin's list. i'm down at his place, installing linux first time05:45
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osityi remember my first time....05:46
osityit makes me we05:46
miketechHi, do you see a chance, that mono will be part of ubuntu in the future?05:46
sposity: yup.05:46
dataw0lf|w'a part of a Ubuntu'05:46
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dataw0lf|wMono is included in the repos.05:46
amaroas does java...05:46
dataw0lf|wDo you mean full integration?05:46
miketechyeah well... installed by default :)05:46
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miketechyup dataw0lf|w05:46
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dataw0lf|w*shrug* I hope not.05:46
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amaromiketech, java isn't even installed by default, and you want mono?05:46
StarMkeSE*deep sigh*05:47
miketechwhy not?05:47
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dataw0lf|wmiketech: there is still the MS threat hanging over Mono.05:47
miketechwell because of application like beagle05:47
dataw0lf|wGranted, it wouldn't do THAT much damage... but enough.05:47
Seveasmono & beagle are in breezy05:47
dead^^hey, how can i get .AVI and .MPG codecs on Linux?05:47
karljpanyone know how to get thunderbird to use a certian persona/alias/replyaddress when it's replying to list mails?05:47
Echylo"Archive fixed | Please don't use Breezy yet"05:47
StarMkeSEI don't know..Now it even refuses to read from floppy :'(05:47
Seveasinstall w32codecs from marillat05:47
Echylo;)05:47
miketechyeah, but we all know the discussions about Mono and microsoft and so on. will there be a solution in the future?05:47
hpnadigis there a firefox 1.0.3 update deb around in any repository?05:48
miketechwell either saying yes or no. but continueing this discussions the next 3 years does not help anyone05:48
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spWhat is a good ftp application?05:49
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miketechgftp?05:49
gryphonmiketech: ok. lemme install it05:50
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SilvioTONermal?05:50
jeroen_hpnadig: backports has 1.0.305:50
gryphonis xchat 2.4.3 also in ubuntu?05:50
Echylo2.05:50
Echylo2.4.105:50
gryphonok.05:51
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hpnadigjeroen_: thanks, whats the url?05:52
gryphondeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted05:52
gryphonmiketech: thanks. gftp is nice.05:52
miketechn.p.05:53
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zerbywell hello, may i ask a question?05:54
zerbycan i i mean05:54
goldfish_go ahead05:54
zerbyive installed ubuntu05:54
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zerbybut i ant play mp3/wav05:54
StarMkeSECan someone explain why sudo dhchpclient eth0 is refused?05:54
zerbyand i suppose video05:54
wezzersudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad05:54
Elhi05:54
PtitOursyeah ... he's right05:55
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zerbywezzer, i need an entry ion sourcelist i thuink05:55
tim1kernel 2.6.12 just hit breezy, I'm gonna reboot now05:55
mtbeedeezerby, does it complain about libmikmod2 or something when you start it from the console?05:55
dead^^i got the w32codecs now. hoe i should install them?05:55
ElChoNyhola, alguien que hable castellno me puede ayudaR_05:55
zerbyno mtbeedee05:55
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mtbeedeedead^^ I think yuo can use sudo apt-get install w32codecs05:56
zerbyi doubleklick on the mp3 icon05:56
wezzerzerby: yes, you need to enable universe05:56
zerbykaffeine starts up05:56
zerbywezzer, ?05:56
zerbyin sourcelist?05:56
dead^^wtbeedee i'll try05:56
wezzeryes05:56
zerbyk05:56
wezzerzerby: just open up synaptic05:56
zerbyi did05:56
wezzerand go to settings -> repositories05:56
zerbyk05:56
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zerbyi see wezzer tx05:58
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Echyloanyone uses the game "enemy territory" around here?06:00
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larsrohdinilarsrohdn, testing=)06:02
Echyloanyway, when I try to launch "et" it hangs on "sound initialization", what can I do?06:02
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_davidany idea when kde-libs will be fixed in the repo?06:03
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_davidanyone?06:05
_davidoh well06:05
jeroen_hpnadig: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/06:05
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x_orCan anyone tell me how to switch from Gnome to XFCE?  I've installed the XFCE package, but I am not sure how I switch the window managers.06:07
x_orI see nothing in the menus, and I don't seem to have an .xinitrc file.06:08
Fator_Deelogout and choose xfce from the sessions06:08
jeroen_x_or, can't you click sessions when logging in and choose xfce?06:08
MartySkitchhow did you install xfce06:08
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x_orUsing synaptic.06:08
x_orLet me logout and try it...06:08
x_orBye06:08
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MartySkitchthen it should be listed as a session06:08
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ubuntu_Hi06:10
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gryphonbye06:10
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IFRHey everyone, installing IPW2200 wireless driver veresion 1.0.3 under Ubuntu 5.04 and 2.6.10-5-386. The card is working with WEP and version 0.9 now. How can I enable the06:10
IFRCrypto library support (CONFIG_CRYPTO), ARC4 cipher algorithm and CRC32 (CONFIG_CRC32) can anyone point me to in the kernel?06:10
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ubuntu_Hi, I'm new to linux. >D06:10
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goldfish_hey06:10
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osityhow important is the swap file?06:14
ositydo i neeed it?06:14
Echyloyes06:14
Echylo:D06:14
Echyloyou do need it06:14
mezTo whoever it was helping me before: sorry for being a pain in the ass, but - I should really listen to you in future, lol... I'm just an idiot :D lol - I dont know ubuntu as well as you - and my paranoia about going back to a crappy even more f**ked up system got to me06:14
mezI did what the file said - and found out whyit hadnt worked06:14
thoreauputicmez: it's OK - I lost it a bit too :)06:14
mezIt was tryin to use drivers for my Motherboard graphics card,06:14
mezinstead of my added on one06:15
ositywhy ..im setting up an ftp server....?06:15
thoreauputicmez: I see06:15
mezwhich was why it wasnt working06:15
thoreauputicmez: OK well, all's well that ends well , right?06:15
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thoreauputicmez: BTW those URLs I gave you are very useful too06:16
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osityEchylo:.... why ..im setting up an ftp server....?06:16
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Taliesin`(osity): it's somewhere for the system to swap contents out of RAM into06:17
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Taliesin`or if the RAM is full it has a SWAP Partition to put it too, and because the swap partition is a certant area on the drive, the contects and shoved just randomly over the drive.06:17
Taliesin`even Windows has a Swap File for this same purpouse.06:18
osityif i sw raid 1  do i raid the swap paritions also?06:18
Taliesin`u dont need too no06:18
Taliesin`you could just as hapily put the swap file on the system drive.06:18
Echyloosity, just an ftp server?06:18
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osityya06:20
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sighttp://harrisplace.net/?page_id=1906:20
osityEchylo:.... why ?06:20
sigUbuntu Screenshots06:20
cyphaseGates has tried Firefox, and he still thinks IE is better06:21
cyphasehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4508897.stm06:21
meznother question: on other distros, I've always been able to swtich to consoles by using ctrl+alt +Shit+Fx06:21
Echyloosity, how much memory will that pc be using?06:21
mezI can switch to one on this, but cant switch to another after...06:21
osity51206:21
mezthat meant to be the case?06:21
osityill use 1gb of swap06:21
Echyloowke?06:21
osityEchylo: are you familiar with sw raid1?06:21
Echylono :)06:21
Echyloyou can classify me as noob+ ubuntu06:22
thoreauputicmez: no, it shouldn't be - you should be able to shift using alt-Fx or ctrl-alt-Fx06:22
ositynayone here know software raid stuff?06:22
thoreauputicmez: of course you would need to log on in the other tty06:23
thoreauputicafter shifting06:23
mezyeah, I know06:23
mezI can shift, but i cant shift back06:23
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thoreauputicmez why are you using the shift key in your combo?06:24
mtbeedeemez: what are you trying to shift back to?06:24
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mezer... I dont know... I alwyas have done... and it doesnt make any difference06:24
mezand trying to shift back to anything06:24
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g0dotnice.. xfce4 is reallz a lot more responsive than gnome06:24
mtbeedeeyou mean you can shift once and then not again?06:24
thoreauputicmez: you only need alt-Fx when out of X and ctrl-alt-Fx  when in it06:25
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g0dotnow I only need to find where to change the keyboard layout06:25
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thoreauputicmez: if it's a laptop you might need to touch the fn key as well06:26
mezit aint a laptop06:26
mezlemme try06:26
thoreauputicOK06:26
mezif i sign out then :D It didnt work06:26
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mtbeedeei wonder if when he switches out, it closes or resets that pty06:27
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cyphaseIn a world without walls or fences, who needs Windows or Gates?06:27
thoreauputicmtbeedee: ubuntu is bog standard normal when it comes to switching from one tty to another, unless he has a keyboard config issue06:28
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seliniumhi thoreauputic!06:30
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meznope didnt work06:30
bet0xlibflash-mozplugin.so crash my all browser06:30
thoreauputicselinium: hello again selinium :)06:30
mezlets me switch to tty106:30
mez(ctrl alt f1)06:30
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mezbut, wont let me switch back (either alt f7, ctrl alt f7 or ctrl alt shift f706:31
thoreauputicmez: alt-F7 to get back06:31
seliniumthoreauputic: Glad your here solving all us newbies problems!06:31
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mezthoreauputic, it didnt work :(06:31
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thoreauputicselinium: hmm - I've had afew problems myself lately06:31
mezto get back :(06:31
thoreauputicmez: odd06:31
mezyeah thats what I thought.06:31
mezwouldnt let me switch to any other tty either06:32
seliniumhi all, is there a way of opening the other half's evolution from my login, so she doesn't have to keep logging me off to read her mail?06:32
mezI thought previously it might be because I was running in runlevel 2 and other distros i ran runlevel 506:32
thoreauputicmez: when in tty1, run ` sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart `06:32
mezbut that didnt work either06:32
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thoreauputicmez: debian distros don't play runlevel games06:33
thoreauputic:)06:33
seliniumthoreauputic: have you found a solution yet?06:33
mezis there any more steps after that ?06:33
mezcause I wont be able to come back and say "done"06:33
mezlol06:33
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thoreauputicselinium: for some obscure reason fluxbox won't co-operate with me on Hoary :(06:33
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mezthoreauputic, lol... I didnt think it would be that really, but it was worth a try06:33
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thoreauputicmez: did you try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?06:34
thoreauputicrats06:34
thoreauputicI love the way people just disappear and reappear just when you give them a tip06:34
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mezlol06:35
mezyeah it got me back into X06:35
mezbut on the login screen06:35
mezso it closed all my apps06:36
mezI dont want that06:36
thoreauputicmez: OK your session manager wasn't running I expect06:36
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mez?06:36
mezgdm ?06:37
thoreauputicyes06:37
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mezgdm was running cause i used it to login to start :D06:37
mezlol06:37
s_yuan31teehave any success compile mplayer 1.0pre7?06:37
thoreauputicmez, it's possible you killed it in your X adventures though06:37
jackassCould someone help me??? Can't find my other hardrive?06:37
mezlol06:37
mezhmm06:37
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mezer, well - i havent done anything in the last.... 5 reboots06:38
mezhey Stephen06:38
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mtbeedeejackass: what do you mean?06:38
seliniumthoreauputic: I have not used it myself.06:38
mezif I quit... it wasnt that06:38
jackassim new on linux, Can't find my second hard drive after installation06:38
lotusleafmez: if god exists, neither has he06:38
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mtbeedeetype ls -l /dev/hdb*06:38
dataw0lf|wjackass: do a ls -l /dev/hd*06:38
jackassexplain? im neeb06:39
jackassnoob*06:39
dataw0lf|wnot necessarily going to be on /dev/hdb06:39
mtbeedeethat will tell it to list you hard drives06:39
mtbeedeehd = hard disk06:39
g0dotok I dont find it.. where can I change the keyboard layout in xfc4, does anyone know (where the hell is the question mark)06:39
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yo2luxi want to update my firefox in Ubuntu 5.04 to firefox 1.0.3. I use synaptic package manager but not find new updates for firefox, any idea ?06:39
mtbeedeethe /dev dir is where devices go06:39
dataw0lf|wno, it will only list the secondary master, if it exists.06:39
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mtbeedeetrue06:39
dataw0lf|wjackass: open a terminal, type ls -l /dev/hd* and tell us the output06:39
goldfishfirefox 1..3 is vunerable too btw.06:40
meznope, does same thing, wont let me back in through alt+f7, but restarting gdm works06:40
yo2luxgoldfish yes but i want to upgrade06:40
goldfishg0dot: right click on desktop go into settings, should be a keyboard menu or something06:40
goldfishafaik 1.0.3 will not be in hoary06:40
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goldfishonly breezy06:40
mezany ideas?06:41
meztis really weird06:41
g0dotgoldfish: not for changing the keyboard languahe layout06:41
jackassbrw-rw----  1 root disk   3,  0 2005-05-10 19:27 /dev/hda06:41
jackassbrw-rw----  1 root disk   3,  1 2005-05-10 19:27 /dev/hda106:41
jackassbrw-rw----  1 root disk   3,  2 2005-05-10 19:27 /dev/hda206:41
jackassbrw-rw----  1 root disk   3,  5 2005-05-10 19:27 /dev/hda506:41
jackassbrw-rw----  1 root disk   3, 64 2005-05-10 19:27 /dev/hdb06:41
jackassbrw-rw----  1 root disk   3, 65 2005-05-10 19:27 /dev/hdb106:41
mtbeedeemez: maybe check you inittab?06:41
jackassbrw-rw----  1 root cdrom 22,  0 2005-05-10 19:28 /dev/hdc06:41
jackassthas's came up06:41
jackassthat*06:42
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mezI dont see what can be wrong in the inittab though... that would do this06:42
thoreauputicmez, do you get a tty if you use, say,  ctrl-alt-F4 instead? I'm wondering if you have your /etc/inittab correctly set up06:42
mtbeedeejackass: it looks like you have a partition on a hard disk called hdb06:42
mtbeedeeand hdc is a cdrom or something06:42
jackassy. and 1 called hda06:42
goldfishg0dot: oh right, something to do with your xorg.conf maybe? i know u csan change it there.06:42
goldfish*can06:43
jackassbut i can only find 0ne of them06:43
mezthoreauputic, I have previously, but let me check06:43
g0dotok goldfish06:43
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dataw0lf|wjackass: mount /dev/hdb <mount point>06:43
mtbeedeewhat do you mean "only find"06:43
mtbeedeeif you type "mount" it will tell you where they are mounted06:43
mtbeedeeor check /etc/fstab06:43
jackassin mycomputer there is only 1 hdd06:44
dataw0lf|wit's not mounting anywhere, jackass.06:44
dataw0lf|wdo a 'sudo mkdir /mnt/partition2'06:44
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seliniumhi all, is there a way of opening the other half's evolution from my login, so she doesn't have to keep logging me off to read her mail?06:44
mtbeedeejackass: does that mean you only have one physical drive?  but somehow have 2 devices listed?06:44
dataw0lf|wthen a 'mount /dev/hdb /mnt/partition2'06:44
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florianhi06:45
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floriani have a problem with my sources.list... it is gone...06:45
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thoreauputicselinium: use gdmflexiserver - it's "log in as another user or something like that in the menu06:45
g0dotfound it goldfish, thanks. and its really a lot faster than gnome06:46
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thoreauputicselinium: so you can each have sessions running concurrently06:46
goldfishg0dot: cool, yeah xfce rocks.06:46
_orospakrhi! what is the best way of ensuring a certain set of packages (say, Kubuntu, openoffice, and a few other packages we need here) are installed on a small network of hoary boxes? (ie, pushing changes to them)06:46
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jackasshow to mount hd?06:47
_orospakrI know a text file with a list of packages on an httpd somewhere and a cron'd shell script on the boxes would work or something like that, but I wanted to know if there was some other method already.06:47
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mtbeedeejackass: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/partition206:48
jackassmount: monteringspunkten /mnt/partition2 finns inte06:48
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mtbeedeejackass: uhh, what does that mean?06:49
Mez__weirdly... no i dont06:49
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seliniumthoreauputic: Fabulous! It works a treat!06:49
thoreauputicselinium: :)06:49
jackasspartition2 doesn't excist06:49
mtbeedeethen sudo mkdir /mnt/partition2 first06:50
mmwhi! can anyone help me with midi-playback? I installed timidity and freepats, but I can only hear the drums.06:50
Mez__1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty106:50
Mez__2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty206:50
Mez__3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty306:50
Mez__4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty406:50
Mez__5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty506:50
Mez__6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty606:50
Mez__2345 ??06:51
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thoreauputicMez__: uh, please recall what I said about using #flood06:51
BoD_SWATcan anyone tell me how to disable the ' " spacebar issue? When I use the SHIFT+" combination and then press the spacebar, then I get a ". How can I fix this?06:51
mtbeedeeMez__: that means it exists at that runlevel I think06:51
Mez__ah, ok, sorry about that06:51
Mez__well that makes sense why I dont get one now06:51
Mez__I'm at runlevel 506:51
Mez__whereas before i was at 206:51
mtbeedeechange them all to 234506:52
mtbeedeethen telinit q06:52
jackassnow it worked06:52
Deffiehi all, theres any package in universe/multiverse to allow rhythmbox (gstreamer ?) to play mp3s ?06:52
mtbeedeejackass: ls -l /mnt/partition206:52
mtbeedeeor cd there06:52
mtbeedeeto see what's there06:52
thoreauputicMez__: runlevel 5 isn't used in debian distros usually: the default is 206:52
BoD_SWATDeffie, try installing the codecs?06:53
Mez__ok done that mtbeedee06:53
JuhazDeffie, gstreamer0.8-mad06:53
jackassit was the right drive06:53
thoreauputicmtbeedee: there is nothing wrong with his inittab06:53
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mmwanyone?06:53
thoreauputicDeffie:  gstreamer0.8-mad06:54
mtbeedeethoreauputic: ok... I was unsure if that would help or not06:54
DeffieJuhaz thank you :)06:54
Mezah ok06:54
Mezso... now what to do06:54
Deffiethoreauputic you too :)06:54
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jackasshow do i ad it in computer06:54
thoreauputicMez: have you altered your default runlevels?06:54
ZambbaIs this disk configuration good to install Ubuntu to same disk with WinXP: http://hausjarvi.dyndns.ws/disk.PNG ? I'm planning to convert D: to FAT32.06:55
florianmy sources.list is gone.. what can I do??06:55
MezI changed my default runlevel from 2 to 5 ... but thats all.. and i did that this morning,06:55
mmwnobody has a clue how to enable midi-playback?06:55
MezI've had this problem ever since i installed06:55
thoreauputicflorian: run apt-setup06:55
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agentanyone having problems logging in to ebay today using firefox? very annoying!06:56
thoreauputicMez: type `runlevel ` in a term and tell me the output06:56
MezN 506:56
forsaker8k6rms is such a great man... wow06:56
thoreauputicMez: sudo telinit 206:56
Mezdone06:56
thoreauputicMez: you shouldn't be in runlevel 506:56
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thoreauputicMez: ubuntu uses debian conventions: runlevel 5 isn't used normally06:57
Mezas i said earlier, I changed it cause of the whole thing to do with this, all other distros I've used used rl 506:57
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thoreauputicMez: yes, confusing I know06:57
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Mezanyways06:57
Meznow in rl 206:57
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Mezand I'll change my inittab to do that06:58
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thoreauputicMez: your inittab looked fine06:58
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Mezthat was just the TTY bit of it06:58
thoreauputicMez: or what i saw looked fine06:58
mp3jim sorry to say but that live cd from ubuntu is not that appealing06:58
Mezi just changed back to id:2:initdefault:06:58
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florianthoreauputic, thx, I try!06:58
mmwcan someone *please* tell me how to play midi files?06:58
Mezinstead of id:5:initdefault:06:58
ganymedhi folks06:58
Mezwhich i changed earlier :D06:59
wolfsmaulhi06:59
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wolfsmaulcu06:59
thoreauputicMez: it's always a good idea to know the distro before you change fundamental system files ;-)06:59
|iXiiOn|can i plug in my digicam with ubuntu and is start a wizzard or something ?06:59
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jeroen_mmw, I'd like to know aswell06:59
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kandinskipaging aaron waite!06:59
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Mezlol ;) I assumed it worked the same as Gentoo (which is also debian based I believe?)07:00
FackamatoHi07:00
FackamatoMy sit1 interfaces doesn't startup automatically at boot07:00
jeroen_|iXiiOn|, I think you can07:00
goofriderGentoo is completely in it's own class07:00
FackamatoI have to manually do sudo ifup sit107:00
forsaker8k6Mez.. i would not say that07:00
Fackamatothen it works07:00
mmwjeroen_, ok, so there's 2 of us. unfortunately, no one seems to have an answer.07:00
Fackamatomy interfaces file is http://www.tehjunkyard.net/interfaces.txt07:00
Fackamatoany ideA?07:00
thoreauputicMez: erm... no Gentoo is most definitely NOT Debian based07:00
goofridernot realted to any distro at all07:00
jeroen_mmw: yep :(07:00
forsaker8k6Gentoo do is Gentoo07:00
agentmmw, did you try the command play on the command line?07:00
Mezah, I just guessed it was from the whole... installer thing07:00
mmwagent, "command not found"07:00
WeirdAlhello...07:01
WeirdAlWhy doesn't "lock screen" do anything?07:01
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forsaker8k6mmw, have you tryed with xmms?07:01
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agentmmw, that's strange.... default ubuntu install has that installed (at least mine did)07:01
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agentmmw, and do other files play fine? like, for example, mp3 or wav? if not it may be your soundcard having issues or speakers07:02
okmitNeed help: Anyone knows where I could find HowTo for the official nVidia drivers? My problem is that the installere asks me for missing kernel modules07:02
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mmwagent, others play fine07:02
paulproteusokmit: ubuntuguide.org and the ubuntu wiki should help you.07:02
Mezso, any ideas thoreauputic07:03
agentmmw, install the package sox07:03
paulproteusUse the ubuntu wiki instructions and you won't go wrong.07:03
paulproteusI'm outta here.07:03
agentmmw, use synaptc07:03
mmwforsaker8k6, xmms doesn't play it either07:03
Lathiatokmit: You can install the nvidia drivers with ubuntu packages07:04
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Lathiatokmit: Is there a reason you are installing from source07:04
forsaker8k6mmm... what do yuo mean when you say it doesn't play: you can't hear any sound.. or it gives you an error or something07:04
forsaker8k6?07:04
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danko123456ls07:04
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Lathiatokmit: install the nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules-386 (assuming your 386, maybe 686,k7 if you installed a non stdnard kernel007:04
mmwagent, ok, now I've got play (thanks for that), but it gives me: sox: Failed reading /home/hoopdoc/Downloads/closer.mid: Do not understand format type: mid07:04
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forsaker8k6:)07:04
Mezlmao :D I have a problem whcih is annoying and doesnt seem to happen to anyone else07:05
Mezlol07:05
Mezmaybe i should just give up and wait for my hoary to arrive07:05
jmjoneshas anyone gotten wireless networking working under hoary with a dell laptop with an intel 2200 wireless chipset?07:05
agentmmw, are you using x86 or ppc? (not sure if this actually matters).. and you are using newest ubuntu, yes? (hoary)07:05
okmitLathiat : ubuntu packages doesn't work fine, maybe because I have the Geforce Fx go5600 (Laptop chip)07:05
Lathiatokmit: ok, well the installer probably needs build-essential and linux-headers-2.6.10-386 installed07:06
mmwagent, x86 and hoary07:06
agentvery strange then!07:06
dabaSlonMez: maybe you should ask about your problem, 2...07:06
Lathiatokmit: also make sure to unintsall07:06
Lathiatokmit: nvidia-glx07:06
MezdabaSlon, I already have :D07:06
dabaSlonask again.07:06
dabaSlon:)07:06
mmwagent, are there any libraries or other things apart from freepats which could help?07:07
agentmmw, try and download midi files from the internet and play them... maybe your mid file was made some strange way07:07
dabaSlonand then again07:07
Mezyou must have missed it, when thoreauputic wsa trying to help me07:07
Mezbasically07:07
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dabaSlonright, I just came in07:07
okmitLathiat : I completely removed nvidia-glx07:07
agentmmw, to tell you the truth i am not very knowlegable about this... in fact i started using ubuntu two days ago :)07:07
MezI cant ctrl +alt+Fx to a tty, but after I've done that, I cant go to any other TTY or back to X07:07
dabaSlonsomehow my connection got dropped overnight07:07
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Lathiatokmit: good07:07
dabaSlonwhat computer?07:07
Mezme?07:08
Mezer - cutom build07:08
dabaSlonnot an apple, hey..07:08
Mezcustom*07:08
Meznot an apple no07:08
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dabaSlonI suppose you tried all possible combinations of keys?07:08
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jeroen_agent, i have the same prob as mmw; i get the same error from play aswell07:08
simashow to install nforce2 sound and network drivers? i have downloaded 2.6.10 kernel source. when i run setup with --kernel-source-path it asks me for --kernel-output-path and i dunno what should it be set to07:08
Mezyip07:08
okmitlathiat : I'll try reinstalling after having linux-headers-2.6.10-38607:09
Lathiatokmit: yes you will definatley need that package07:09
agentmmw, i am searching packages and found the program/package playmidi.. maybe that will help (and, if needed, install libraries that you dont have for some strange reason)07:09
krat3rhow do i rename a directory?07:09
dabaSlonyeah, that is strange, and yiu are right, I have no clue what could cause that07:09
Mez;)07:09
dabaSlonmv dir/ dir_/07:09
dabaSlonin a terminal, in that directory where the dir/ is07:09
dabaSlonor07:09
agentmmw & jeroen_, let me actually try playing midi files on my pc... i never tried them :)07:09
dabaSlonthrought gnome, f207:10
jeroen_agent: that's the prob ;)07:10
mmwagent, but you're of great help anyway07:10
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okmitLathiat : Is the linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 package also required?07:10
krat3rdabaSlon, tnx07:10
dabaSlonk07:10
Lathiatokmit: yes07:11
mmwagent, I already tried playmidi (and pmidi and audacity ...), but all of them give me errors.07:11
Lathiatokmit: that is pulled in by that package07:11
Lathiatokmit: because its the latest version of the haeders07:11
dabaSlonjust to make sure you understand...if the folder is in yuor home folder, then go to the home folder, and do what I said.07:11
jeroen_agent: These gave me errors aswell07:11
Lathiatokmit: please run "uname -r" and paste to me07:11
agentmmw jeroen_ do you ugys know of a site that has midi files i can download?07:11
jeroen_well, I wanted to play the song of the Vatican, for fun07:11
jeroen_Found it on Wikipedia07:12
jackassi can't find my sec. hdd in my computer, (I'm a noob)07:12
okmit Lathiat : # uname -r07:12
okmit2.6.10-5-38607:12
mmwagent, I have the one I'm trying to play from here: http://www.nrw-schwarz.de/download_handy.htm07:12
simasso no suggestions?07:12
dabaSlonjackass: it is your second hard drive, right?07:12
jackassjapp07:12
jackassyes07:12
jeroen_http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/sp_ss_scv/inno/inno_scv_musica.mid07:12
mmwagent, I tried "closer" by nin07:12
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dabaSlonjackass: type in ls /dev in a terminal, and paste the outputto http://pastebin.com , please07:13
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Lathiatokmit: cool07:13
ZambbaIs this good partitioning scheme? http://hausjarvi.dyndns.ws/disk.PNG07:13
Lathiatokmit: thats fine07:13
dabaSlonthen give me the URL07:13
Lathiatokmit: keep going07:13
LathiatZambba: looks fine07:13
jeroen_looks good Zambba, depends on your use07:13
dabaSlonZambba: what do you even mean good07:13
dabaSlonvalid?07:14
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Zambbayea :P07:14
jeroen_it looks okay07:14
dabaSlondoes it work?07:14
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dabaSloni just learned what lmao means.07:14
dabaSlonI hate all he acronyms...too many...07:14
agentmmw jeroen_ just so you guys know, i cant play them either :(07:14
jackassdone07:14
dabaSlonbut, they will come in handy...07:14
jeroen_dabaSlon: install bsdgames, and then use wtf07:14
jackassdabaSlon07:14
jeroen_you can "wtf lmao"07:14
jeroen_and it'll tell you the meaning! :D07:15
dabaSlonjackass: give me the URL, please.07:15
Zambba:D07:15
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dabaSlonhehe, nice program.07:15
dabaSlonI have dict07:15
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jackasshttp://pastebin.com/28223107:15
mmwagent, ok. now we're 3. but shouldn't such a basic feature be accessible by default?07:15
dabaSlonjackass: your second hard drive seemds to have only one partition, is that right?07:16
jeroen_is midi non-restricted?07:16
jeroen_?? restricted07:16
jackassyes07:16
jeroen_Any Ubuntu-devs around?07:16
dabaSlonjackass: what would you like to do, view the files? And, what filesystem is the hard drive?07:16
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dabaSlonjeroen_: try #ubuntu-dev07:17
jeroen_ah, okay07:17
Kamionjeroen_: mm?07:17
Lathiatjeroen_: whats the problem?07:17
dabaSlon#ubutnu-devel07:17
dabaSlonwhatever, you get the point,07:17
jeroen_mmw, let's go to #ubuntu-devel!07:17
LathiatdabaSlon: No, please do not send users there, it is not for help, it is for development discussion.07:17
jeroen_oh, okay07:17
jeroen_then I won't go07:17
Lathiatjeroen_: Whats the problem?07:17
dabaSlonLathiat: thanks for letting me know.07:17
jeroen_But you see.. there's no midi playback in Ubuntu07:18
tritiumdabaSlon, this is the proper place for questions07:18
dabaSlontritium: thanks.07:18
mmwLathiat, we cannot play midi files07:18
jeroen_not even when you install midiplay07:18
jackassi would like to see the drive where you see the floppy and cd, like "My Computer" and filesystem i'm not sure07:18
LathiatYou probably dont have hardware synthesizer support07:18
Lathiat'timidity' is a software synth07:18
tim_anyone know if there is a e17-ubuntu in the works? I saw a mention that there was talk of it in an interview with mark shuttleworth (think thta was the name)07:18
Lathiatyou should try that07:18
jeroen_I tried timidity07:18
dabaSlonjackass: cool, can be done, what filesystem does it use? is it a windows hard?07:18
Zambba/bin/sh: line 1: wtf: command not found07:19
jackassyes, i think it is ntsf07:19
mmwLathiat, I installed that. And freepats, too.07:19
agentmmw jeroen_ , did you guys try timidity + freepats?07:19
jeroen_Zambba: you need bsdgames07:19
dabaSlon(12:16:13) jeroen_: dabaSlon: install bsdgames, and then use wtf07:19
Lathiatmmw: Whats the problem?07:19
jeroen_agent, what is freepats07:19
agentmmw, nm :)07:19
mmwagent, yes :-)07:19
Zambbajeroen_: I know07:19
agentmmw jeroen_ : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3239507:20
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dabaSlonjackass: open a terminal, type in "sudo mkdir /media/windows07:20
dabaSlonthen enter.07:20
dabaSlonThat will create the directory onto which you will mount the hard drive.07:20
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mmwLathiat, it only plays the drumline and gives many error messages like: No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 116 - this instrument will not be heard07:20
agentmmw jeroen_ : midi howto for hoary: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3096307:20
agentmmw jeroen_ : you guys try that?07:20
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Hatredhey07:21
dabaSlonjackass: once you are done that, you need to mount the hard drive, so, try this first: "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222"07:21
Lathiatmmw: try googleing/checking the home page of timidity for information07:21
jackassok done07:21
dabaSlonboth?07:21
mmwagent, I'm reading through it07:21
mmwLathiat, ok07:21
dabaSlonHatred: hey07:22
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jackassyes it worked07:22
dabaSlonjackass: then, type in ls /media/windows07:22
HatreddabaSlon :)07:22
HatredI've gotten this error msg from about 4 applications now, was wondering if anyone knew of a solution?07:22
agentmmw jeroen_ : apart from this i am all out of ideas :) never had a need for midi in my years w/ linux :X07:22
beerockxscan someone help me get my parallel port scanner to work?07:22
HatredGtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "liblighthouseblue.so",07:22
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jackassdone07:23
dabaSlonjackass: did that show you the files?07:23
agentanyone having problems logging into ebay today using firefox?07:23
jackassit worked realy fine...07:23
jackassyes07:23
jeroen_agent:thx07:23
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dabaSlonHatred: that means taht your GTK does not rally have that theme properly installed, the lighthouseblue theme,07:23
jackassthnx werry much07:23
dabaSlonHatred: not sure what to do, though07:23
Hatredhmmm07:24
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PieDHi07:24
dabaSlonjackass: you are waelcome, that is just part of what you will prbably want to do07:24
Hatredty dabaSlon07:24
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mmwagent, I think it is a good way to have alerts have sounds (e.g. buddy alerts in gaim)07:24
dabaSlonwelcome, I just know that that is one of the gtk themes.07:24
PieDI'm using breezy, and I've got a small problem with my latest apt-get update :07:24
PieDW: GPG error: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>07:24
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KamionPieD: I think the main archive's fine now, but fr.a.u.c may not have re-mirrored since the fix07:25
KamionPieD: try archive.ubuntu.com temporarily07:25
PieDOnly a Warning, but since core system components (passwd for instance) are updated, I prefer to be sure07:25
dabaSlonPieD: you want to update your keys...there is instructions on the Wiki, under hoary apt authentication07:25
dabaSlonjackass: the second part of what you probably want to do...is making the hard drive mounted on boot.07:25
KamiondabaSlon: there was a problem with archive mirroring yesterday07:25
PieDkeys must be updated ? why ?07:25
KamionPieD: they should not07:25
dabaSlonkamion means truck in my language07:25
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agentmmw, you could always try to convert the midi to something you can play (ogg for example)07:25
Kamionthat's nice07:25
sylvancan ubuntu write to ntfs partitions? or just read?07:26
dabaSlonPieD: read the wiki, I do not know really.07:26
agentmmw, does gaim use mid files?07:26
jackassque?07:26
seliniumThis may seem like a strange strange question for this room, but is anyone here a scuba diver?07:26
PieDdabaSlon: It looks like you're wrong...07:26
thenukePieD: Have you done this? http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories07:26
seliniumChannel even07:26
dabaSlonsylvan: read at this time, there is some program for it...07:26
PieDI'm speaking about the main repositories07:26
dabaSlonPieD: why do you say that?07:26
agentselinium, yes, that is a strange question :)07:26
dabaSlonPieD: it is the same gpg error...07:26
PieDI'm using a hoary, updated in breezy07:26
thenukePieD: you cannot have that error if you have only the "main" repos07:26
dabaSlonPieD: did you read the wiki yet?07:27
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PieDI don't have this error any longer yet07:27
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PieDI switched to archive.ubuntu.com instead of fr.archive.ubuntu.com07:27
PieDmirror problems07:27
mmwagent, I dunno, since my entire machine refuses to play them :-)07:27
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seliniumIt is that I am looking to connect my dive computer to the linux box and didn't kow if anyone here had already had any success!07:27
zoddanmy WLAN nic is not starting when i boot i have added it to interfaces but that dident help07:27
dabaSlonjackass: well, you dont want to have to do that every time you start your computer...or perhaps you do...do you? or do you want it to be mounted when you boot?07:27
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Kamionthenuke: that GPG error showed up for a lot of people yesterday due to a bug in the archive system triggered by an upgrade to hoary (bash's syntax got a bit stricter in one place)07:28
seliniumAlright then, has anyone connected there palm to ubuntu?07:28
jackassyes of course07:29
dabaSlonjackass: to the second one, right?07:29
jackassi didn't get that =707:29
jackass=/07:29
jackassyes07:29
jackasslol07:29
agentmmw, its easy to check... if you have a package installed goto synaptic and search for it... then goto properties and select "installed files" that will tell you all the files it installs... (only works on installed packages)... see if it installed mid files... my guess no.. probably wav or something similar07:30
dabaSlonjackass: ok, there is a file at /etc/fstab07:30
dabaSlonfirst back it up, I guess, so, type in sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup07:30
dabaSlonjackass: then, sudo gedit /etc/fstab07:30
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dabaSlonjackass: add this line to the end of the file, exactly copy and pste it. "/dev/hdb1       /media/windows  ntfs    umask=0222      0       0"07:31
mmwagent, ok thanks a lot. I'll give it up for now with midi.07:31
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dabaSlonjackass: then save the file, and next time you boot, it will be there, under /media/windows.07:31
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dabaSlonjackass: the files will be read only ion that hard drive. Also, all the instructions I had given you are from http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs , but a warning, that most of the Ubuntu developers/knowledgables, do not like all the methods that are shown on that page.07:32
dabaSlonthis one is fine, I think.07:33
klimitLathiat : Thanks it worked. Now what i have to do if I wanna install the 686smp kernel? The same thing?07:33
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Lathiatklimit: then you install the appropriate headers package07:33
Lathiatklimit: and then eh07:33
Lathiatklimit: yeh07:33
jackassok thnx again, and alot07:34
dabaSlonjackass: the first hard drive is hda, second hdb, third hdc and so on, normally, but sometimes they skip the letters for some reason, dunno...07:34
dabaSlonjackass: you are welcome.07:34
klimitLathiat : ok 10x again07:34
dabaSlonis there anything else I can do for you right now?;)07:34
dabaSlonI work tech support in chat:)07:34
jackassso hda is master/ hdb slave?07:34
dabaSlonI guess...07:34
Echyloanyone knows a program to make cd-covers with it?07:34
LathiatEchylo: glabels perhaps07:34
Echylothanks07:35
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dabaSlonEchylo: d you use gnome? Cause Synaptic has a search function, and you can search by name and description.07:36
Echyloyes, but I like to know experiences :)07:36
dabaSlonright, so you would see which program is good, that is a good tactic:)07:36
|iXiiOn|i need some help please07:37
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|iXiiOn|i installed ubuntu and at the end of the basic installation the installer tell me it needs additional language packages07:38
|iXiiOn|ant that it is going to fiwnload these07:38
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|iXiiOn|download07:38
|iXiiOn|BUT07:38
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|iXiiOn|the pc dont have internet07:38
jeroen_awww07:39
jeroen_can you get the language-packs from somewhere else?07:39
|iXiiOn|how can i add this packages ?07:39
danko123456|iXiiOn|: so they do not get downloaded?07:39
|iXiiOn|i dont know which packages are needed07:39
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Kamionit's asking about language-support-{yourlanguagecode}07:39
Kamionso say your primary language is French, that's language-support-fr07:39
erikjoin07:40
danko123456sometimes the Ubuntu install says it is going to the internet to get packages, but really does not do that, but looks in sources.list, and since the cd is added there, really gets those from the CD.07:40
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|iXiiOn|aha07:40
danko123456|iXiiOn|: I suppose that is not the case here?07:40
bashBoyhi people, is ubuntu any good ?07:40
Kamionnowadays, it should only ask about language-support-* if those packages aren't on the CD07:40
danko123456yup07:40
Kamionit checks07:40
kyncanibashBoy: you asking in #ubuntu !!!07:41
|iXiiOn|danko123456 this pc dont have internet acc07:41
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Kamionalthough actually, there was a bug in the hoary DVD that meant it asked too often07:41
danko123456|iXiiOn|: well, as I said, my installs always pretend to go to the internet, but really get the stuff from the cd,...07:41
klimitbashBoy : what do you want to know about it?07:41
|iXiiOn|hm maybe07:41
danko123456is it an error messaeg, or does it ask you if you want to install the packages from the internet, and if so, sy yes, and see if it does it.07:41
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|iXiiOn|how can i chekc if or if not ?07:42
Kamion(see bug #8766)07:42
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Kamion|iXiiOn|: say yes and don't worry about it? :-) If it can't download them, then it can't download them ...07:42
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jeroen_bashBoy, yes it is07:42
|iXiiOn|it tells me that i need addition language packages and that it is going to download these now ( it is queestioning me )07:42
danko123456then, say yes07:42
Kamionthe question's there so that if you're installing a thousand machines with CDs that don't have the right language-support-* on them, it won't kill your net connection as they all simultaneously go off to mirrors07:42
|iXiiOn|there is no error message07:43
danko123456bashBoy: in fact, it is super07:43
danko123456all right, does it continue?07:43
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erikhas anyone used Ubuntu in a school environment?07:44
neighborleeanyone else here by chance have a HP Officejet 5500 and is able to print in gimp..? ( i'm unable to and would appreciate any info )07:44
danko123456erik: there is a school somewhere that has a ubuntu lab...07:44
|iXiiOn|so how can i see if he took the packages from cd ? maybe07:44
Raptoidwhat is hdd partition kde desktop link ?07:44
Raptoidfor ubuntu07:44
goofriderqtparted???07:44
Kamion|iXiiOn|: it'll be obvious if not, because it will spend time downloading and show a progress meter07:44
danko123456|iXiiOn|: not sure, if it went on with what it is doing, it likely did07:44
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Raptoidsor lan paco07:45
Raptoideuheuhe07:45
Kamion|iXiiOn|: right at the very end of the installation07:45
Raptoidkamyon07:45
|iXiiOn|Kamion yes07:45
bashBoyyes, i just want something easy for my friend to use07:45
Raptoidkardes nasil baglicaz bunu dektopa07:45
bashBoyand i want mp3 dvd to work as well07:45
_paco_how to mount win partitions with ubuntu07:45
bashBoynot like red hat . .07:45
danko123456bashBoy: it is good for that some installation will be needed07:45
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erikdanko123456: i'm interested in info regarding the maintenance of a large ubuntu rollout07:45
wezzer-sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad07:45
allynubuntu has the mp3 codec installd by default i think07:45
danko123456bashBoy: read the wiki at wiki.ubuntulinux.org about restricted frmats is all you need07:46
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danko123456restricted formats07:46
|iXiiOn|okay i will see07:46
danko123456erik: google it is the best I can do.07:46
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bashBoydanko123456: thanks, ill take a look07:48
danko123456bashBoy: you are welcome, why am I danko123456...07:48
goofriderwhy not burn him some live CDs and have your friend decide for himself?07:48
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ositywhere should the boot loader go in a raid 1 setup?07:48
dabaSloncause it is #ubuntu:-p07:48
goofriderosity: /dev/hda07:48
goofriderit the MBR07:49
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goofriderin the MBR07:49
ositynot in the partition?07:49
goofriderGrub stage 1 goes into /dev/hda07:49
goofriderstage 1.5/2 goes into /boot (whereever your /boot is)07:49
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goofriderwhen u do a "install-grub /dev/hda", grub put stage 1 in the MBR, with a jump entry to stage 1.5 in /boot07:50
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goofridermake sure u have the correct initrd image in your /boot07:51
devnulli am trying to use xfc to write a gui i have the libs installed from ubuntu but they seem to be missing xfcui07:51
devnullidk if i am doing something wrong07:52
goofriderthe initrd must have RAID modules bundled in it07:52
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jiyuu0yub... it's up...07:53
jiyuu0Unofficial Ubuntu Add-On CD Enhanced (Standard + SystemRescueCd):07:53
jiyuu0ubuntu-5.04-add-on-cd-e-2005-05-08.tgz (446.7 MB)07:53
jiyuu0Contains:07:53
jiyuu0-Snapshots of all the applications mentioned in the UbuntuGuide (8th May 2005)07:53
jiyuu0-Bootable CD (SystemRescueCd) - Partition Magic clone, Ghost/Drive-image clone, etc07:53
jiyuu0http://ubuntuguide.org/add-on-cd07:53
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goofriderI <3 SysResqCd07:54
goofriderjiyuu0, did u just make that??07:55
dabaSlonjiyuu0: what time zone are you in, what time is it now where you are?07:56
goofrider10:56AM PDT07:56
goofrideroops07:57
goofriderthough that was a rollcall07:57
jiyuu0goofrider, yes07:57
goofriderjiyuu0, sweet07:57
jiyuu0dabaSlon, it's now 1:57am07:57
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jeroen_Hey, Hans!07:59
jeroen_Solved your probs?07:59
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dabaSlonok, so a 12 hour difference, asia?08:02
clausmehello08:03
mark345im having problem mounting a newer dvd in ubuntu, but older dvds mount fine08:03
clausmecan someone tellme what to do in this case08:03
mark345any ideas?08:03
dabaSlonjiyuu0: there is a guy here around midnight where I am, and that means noon where you are, his nick is anethema, and he wants to give you some suggestions about the guide.08:03
dabaSlonclausme: what is the case?08:03
dabaSlonmark345: not really myself.08:04
clausmei hope i dont get ban08:04
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dabaSlonclausme: you can use http://pastebin.com , and paste the URL you get here...08:04
jeroen_mark345: the new ones are encrypted08:05
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jeroen_you need libdvdcss2 to play them (might be illegal in some countries; not in Europe anyway)08:05
jiyuu0dabaSlon, any idea what's his comments?08:06
clausmehttp://pastebin.com/28225408:06
clausmehelpm me pls08:06
dabaSlonstate what the issue is as well.08:06
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clausmehello08:06
clausmeloojk at that url and help me08:07
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dabaSlonclausme: hehe, anyhow, this is a long shot, but try this in a terminal: make menuconfig-curses08:07
Kamionclausme: install the libncurses5-dev package08:07
tritiumclausme, you need to install libncursesw5-dev08:07
dabaSlonor, listen to them, they know.08:07
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clausmehow to install libncurses5-dev package ibncursesw5-dev08:08
mark345the error i get in xine is "cannot find  input plugin for MRL [dvd:/] 08:08
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tritiumclausme, I spelled it wrong.  See Kamion's msg08:08
dabaSlonsudo apt-get libncurses5-dev08:08
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mark345some dvds mount (new ones), but others do not08:08
Kamioninsert "install" after "apt-get" there08:09
clausmek08:09
clausmei think i tried that08:09
clausmeis not working08:09
dabaSlonmark345: did you read jeroen_s post?08:09
mark345oh08:09
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mark345i see08:09
tritiumclausme, it should.  That package is in the main repository.08:09
dabaSlonsudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev , and if it does not work, paste the output to pastebin again, or if one line, here.08:09
Seveasclausme, can you paste the output of 'dpkg -l | grep curses' on a pastebin please08:10
jeroen_mark345: the new ones are encrypted08:10
jeroen_you need libdvdcss2 to play them (might be illegal in some countries; not in Europe anyway)08:10
mark345is there a  program out there08:10
quiethow come marillat is no longer listed on the RestrictedFormats wiki page?08:10
mark345im using libdvdcss208:10
jeroen_then it should work08:10
mark345hmmm08:10
tritiumclausme, you've run "sudo apt-get update"?  Have you tried out synaptic?08:10
jeroen_do you have totem-xine?08:10
clausmeroot@clausme:/home/clausme # apt-get install libncurses5-dev08:10
clausmeReading package lists... Done08:10
clausmeBuilding dependency tree... Done08:10
clausmePackage libncurses5-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:10
clausmeis only available from another source08:10
clausmeE: Package libncurses5-dev has no installation candidate08:10
clausmeroot@clausme:/home/clausme #08:10
mark345others work, but not these 2 new ones08:10
clausmesee08:10
mark345yeah, im using xine08:10
dabaSlonuse pastebin, clausme...08:10
mark345and im up to date08:10
dabaSloneasire to read, too.08:10
clausmek08:11
ositywhich partition should be active in a raid 1 setup?08:11
Kamionyou'd need to turn on network sources; there's advice on the web site about that08:11
dabaSlonclausme: Seveas: clausme, can you paste the output of 'dpkg -l | grep curses' on a pastebin please08:11
klimitQuestion: what's the best kernel for a P4 Hyperthreading? 686smp ?08:11
mark345is there a really really new version of libdvdcss2 available, like a nightly?08:11
Seveasklimit, yes08:11
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dabaSlondial up"-P08:12
clausmehttp://pastebin.com/28225808:12
clausmedone08:12
clausmeit08:12
clausmehelp me now08:12
dabaSlonhehe, just a sec.08:13
bhnaclausme: please?08:13
dabaSlonDO a sudo apt-get update in a terminal, too, and if you get error messages, please paste that to a pastebin too.08:13
clausmelet see08:14
Seveashmm, it looks more like a bug in the psybnc installer08:14
Seveashe has the libraries installed08:14
dabaSlonbhna: just probably not english speaking...08:14
Seveasand it just needs the libraries (not the -dev) to display a menu08:14
clausmeno erors08:14
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clausmein apt get update08:14
osityyou'd need to turn on network sources; there's advice on the web site about that08:14
osity<dabaSlon> clausme: Seveas: clausme, can you paste the output of 'dpkg -l | grep curses' on a pastebin please08:14
osity<klimit> Question: what's the best kernel for a P4 Hyperthreading? 686smp ?08:14
osity<mark345> is there a really really new version of libdvdcss2 available, like a nightly?08:14
osity<Seveas> klimit, yes08:14
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jeroen_mark345: I don't know. Search a search engine for libdvdcss208:14
osityooops sorry bout that08:14
clausmeclausme http://pastebin.com/282258] 08:15
clausmeclausme http://pastebin.com/28225808:15
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ositywhich partition should be active in a raid 1 setup?08:15
clausmenow what08:15
clausmei do08:15
Seveasclausme, hang on...08:15
dabaSlonjust a second.08:15
clausmek08:15
bramme2 simple questions for you, ubuntu freakz :: can someone give me a page with the exact differences between ubuntu and debian, and what kernel is included in  Ubuntu 5.04 ?08:16
Kamionbramme: exact differences too long to list08:16
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Seveasant the kernel is 2.6.1008:16
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Kamionalthough there's http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ if you want ALL THE DETAIL :-)08:16
jeroen_Anyone here who uses Breezy? Is it usable?08:16
jbaileyjeroen_: Depends what you're looking for as 'usable'08:17
Dethreadjeroen_, not yet...wait two months or so08:17
jeroen_just for messing around with08:17
clausmehello08:17
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clausmecan you help me08:17
jeroen_I mean stable enough to not crash for moving the cursor08:17
Kamionclausme: wait a moment please08:17
jbaileyjeroen_: Given that the kickoff meeting was yesterday, the only instabilities so far have been toolchain.  You're going to see a pile of stuff going in very shortly that will be quite destabilising.08:17
brammeKamion,  that 're a lot of details :p08:17
klimitQuestion: Is there any package for burning CDs and DVDs other than GnomeBaker?08:18
jeroen_jbailey: alright; can I get certain packages from Breezy without updating my system?08:18
brammeso ubuntu is really better than debian ?08:18
Seveasclausme, just hang on, i'm trying to find the error08:18
clausmek08:18
dabaSlonclausme: dont be so impatient, are you in a hurry?08:18
Seveasjeroen_, read the manual on apt pinning :)08:18
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jbaileyjeroen_: Depeneds on the dependancy fun.08:18
clausmeno08:18
krat3ris there anyway of adding this repositorie to apt-get in ubuntu? "deb http://debian.meebey.net/ ./ "08:18
Kamionbramme: you won't get an unbiased answer here :-)08:18
dabaSlonclausme: haha, cool08:18
mishofwhy doesnt this work (from shell): for i in `seq 1 10`; do echo $i done08:18
goofriderbramme: it's more focused than debian08:18
jbaileyjeroen_: There's a newer glibc and gcc, so that'll pull in much of the potential for major trouble right there.08:18
jeroen_jbailey: just the new wesnoth. Shouldn't be a problem08:18
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Seveasclausme, sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev08:18
Seveasthat solved it for me08:19
goofridershorter release cycle08:19
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KamionSeveas: he doesn't have archive.ubuntu.com uncommented in sources.list08:19
Seveashmm08:19
mindsporeis there a way to get xscreensaver package from net instead of cd-rom.. seems to be corrupted on cd08:19
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Seveasclausme, so listen to kamion and uncomment it :)08:19
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Fator_Deemindspore: just install them through apt-get or synaptic08:20
Seveasmindspore, remove the cdrom from your sources.list08:20
Kamionclausme: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:20
mindsporeSeveas: thx08:20
Kamionclausme: you want to turn on the 'main' component of archive.ubuntu.com08:20
klimitQuestion: Is there any package for burning CDs and DVDs other than GnomeBaker?08:20
mindsporegraveman08:20
dabaSlonclausme: type in cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste that into pastebin, in case you are not able to get it from the wiki...but, at least pretend for 10 minutes that you are reading it...08:20
mindsporeerr gravedigger08:20
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goofridermindspore: have u try downloading the DEB from the net and replace the corrupt one in /var/cache/apt-copier?08:21
clausmek08:21
mindsporegoofrider: taking the cdrom out of sources.list worked. thx for the tip though08:21
Seveasklimit, k3b (for KDE)08:21
Seveasklimit, and nautilus08:21
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clausmehttp://pastebin.com/28226408:24
clausmedone it08:24
clausmei think08:24
clausmei done that08:24
clausmeyesterday08:24
clausmeand all seemms ok08:24
clausmelook pls08:25
clausmeand tell me what is the problem08:25
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dabaSlonk, you ahve 3 of the same for one...08:25
dabaSlonremove duplicates...just to clear it up, then save it,08:25
forsaker8k6hi... how can i play some chess game online?08:25
clausmeis is realy important that i don't have duplicates08:26
clausme?08:26
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clausmetritium said is not08:26
dabaSlonforsaker8k6: havce you looked in synaptic?08:26
Seveasomg clausme08:26
bodaciousbhow do i restart smbfs/samba?08:26
Seveasyou have all but the main section08:26
goofridersudoo /etc/init.d/samba restart08:26
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clausmecan you put in pastebin what i must have08:26
bodaciousbthank you goof08:26
forsaker8k6dabaSlon, i searched for some chess program.. and i found gnome-chess or xboard with gnuchess..08:26
Seveasclausme, in line 5 of that file, change hoary-updates to hoaryt08:27
tritiumclausme, it doesn't hurt anything, but there's also no reason to have duplicates08:27
clausmeso can i opy and paste it into my source.lst08:27
clausme?08:27
forsaker8k6but i can't find out how to play an online game08:27
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dabaSlongoogle may know if noone here does...08:27
Seveasclausme, http://pastebin.com/28226508:27
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bodaciousbgoofrider, didnt work =(08:28
forsaker8k6dabaSlon, mmm... yes wise words :D08:28
jon273Why doesn't apache2 just go to index.html? I have to specifiy it08:28
Seveasjon273, check your config08:28
Seveasmaybe you've disabled it08:28
jon273haha08:28
jon273thx08:28
goofrider sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart08:29
jon273hm, i just deleted all the default index pages and created my own08:29
dabaSlonis it index.html? haha08:29
dabaSlonI guess it is...08:29
bodaciousbi have my samba shares in fstab... if my wife reboots her computer, i have to reboot linux to see them again, sudo mount -a will not work... how do i re mount thoes shares without a reboot?08:29
Seveasunmount them first08:30
Seveasand then mount -a08:30
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bodaciousbsev ahh ok08:31
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Kamionmishof: you're missing a ; after $i08:31
WeirdAlUh, I might have missed the answer by wandering off, but can anyone tell me why lock screen doesn't work?08:31
goofrideri think mount -o remount /mnt/yoursamba/share08:31
clausmei have  modyfi08:31
goofridershould do...08:31
clausmethe source.lst08:31
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dabaSlonsudo apt-get install libncurses(whatever it was, I lost it)08:32
dabaSlonactually08:32
jon273yeah, i created index.html and i just get the "Seeing this instead of the website you expected..."08:32
dabaSlonfirst, sudo apt-get update first.08:32
tritiumlibncurses5-dev08:33
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dabaSlonjon273: where is your index.html?08:33
Seveasjon273, your documentroot isn't specified correctly08:33
dabaSlonexactly.08:33
mishofKamion, yeah ive noticed already, thanks anyway08:34
jon273documentroot is set to right dir with index file in. http://server just gets the apache page, http://server/index.html gets right page08:34
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dabaSlonOr from another perspective, the index.html is not in the root directory.08:34
Seveasjon273, do you mind pasting your apache conf on ubuntu.pastein.com?08:34
dabaSlonwhat folder is it in, jon27308:34
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dabaSlonoh, ok, sorry, jon273I get it now.08:35
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goofriderjon273, http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex08:36
jon273Seveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28226908:36
dabaSlonI have spyware, I swear.08:36
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Zenhey all...  what do i do to find out what my cd record device is?  Im trying to use dvd::rip and i need to know what i is... or maby thats not the problem but basically every time i try to transcode from a dvd i get this error: libdvdread: couldn't find device name.08:37
dabaSlonor, some copany bought out al the sites that are not being used...interNIC.08:37
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WeirdAlZen, did you try boring old /cdrom?08:37
Zenaye08:37
Zenit doesnt work.08:37
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digitaltemperHello people08:37
Zeni still ge thte above error =(08:37
Seveasjon273, and the index.html is in /var/www/apache2-default?08:37
digitaltemperquery /Filbert08:38
digitaltemperwhoops lol08:38
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spektrI have problems enabling DMA for my IDE disks on AMD-768 based system. hdparm -d1 /dev/hda says "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted". Any idea what could be missing? My kernel is linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7-smp08:38
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Seveasspektr, try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda08:39
Seveasyou need to run it as root :)08:39
spektrSeveas: I did that08:39
jon273Seveas, yeah08:39
Lizardkinghi there how is it that i cannot kill my X with ctrl+alt+bs, it keeps restarting08:39
goofriderjon273,  index.html should be in /var/www08:39
jon273ah08:40
jon273no08:40
Seveasgoofrider, not according to his config...08:40
jon273cos Documentroot points to /var/www/apache2-default08:40
WeirdAlOMFG lock screen just decided it wanted to work.08:40
WeirdAlRight, crisis averted.08:40
WeirdAlStand down red alert.08:40
SeveasLizardking, because <ctrl><alt><bs> is meant to restart x08:40
dabaSlonjon273: and others working on this...his config file does not say anything about the indexes...08:40
spektrSeveas: the error message isn't about permissions; the kernel doesn't seems to be configured right. maybe a missing module08:40
jon273Do i need to specify that it should look for an index.html file?08:41
Rubinis there an X util which can watch for and kill windows with a certain title etc?08:41
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Seveasspektr, or maybe your disks don;t support DMA :)08:41
dabaSlonjon273: it seems so, let me see here...08:41
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SeveasdabaSlon, it does say so08:41
spektrSeveas: They did when I used suse ;)08:41
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goofriderjon273, : well, add a DirectoryIndex in your config justin case08:41
Seveasit has option indices08:41
dabaSlonseveas, which part?08:41
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Lorenzo^ciao08:41
Lorenzo^c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi x piacere?08:42
SeveasdabaSlon, line 1008:42
dabaSlonoptions indexes?08:42
goofriderthere should've been a default DirectoryIndex in apache2.conf that includes index.html though08:42
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SeveasLorenzo^, english please08:42
dabaSlonisnt that just to show an index of the directory?08:42
Seveasgoofrider, indeed08:42
Lorenzo^yeah08:42
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goofriderhey BTW08:42
Lorenzo^Seveas, i've just installed ubuntu 5.0408:42
LizardkingSeveas: how can shut down the X08:42
Seveasjon273, can you paste your *main* config too08:42
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gfxstylerhey08:42
SeveasLizardking, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:42
Lorenzo^but when i try to listen or to see something..i cannot08:42
goofrider/var/www/apache2-default is a HORRIBLE location for your files08:42
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SeveasLorenzo^, what do you mean?08:43
goofriderbecause the deufalt config has a bunch of rewrite rules08:43
LizardkingSeveas: thx dude08:43
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Lorenzo^i can't listening or watching media files08:43
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SeveasLorenzo^, ah, common problem :)08:43
gfxstyleris it possible to customize the gtk/gnome themes (color, fonts) like the "windows-classic" themes on xp?08:43
Lorenzo^ehm..08:43
SeveasLorenzo^, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:43
goofridereverything in /var/www/apache2-default is subjected to these rewrites (apache rewrite URLs ro show u the default page with the right language)08:44
Lorenzo^ok..08:44
batkins_wow, i just installed ubuntu for the first time.  pretty sweet.08:44
jon273Seveas, it't the ubuntu default, i just installed it08:44
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franklin50I'll echo you batkins08:44
dabaSlonseveas: check out this pastebin... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/282279 that is what I mean...08:44
franklin50I'm amazed.08:44
Seveasjon273, i never used apache on ubuntu so i don't know what it looks like, please paste it :)08:44
goofriderjon273, u changed the DocumentRoot though08:44
goofriderthe default is /var/www, always08:45
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JGLI'm having problems mounting network folders, can someone help?  I get msg "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock..."  when typing "sudo mount //192.168.0.153/music /mnt/music"08:45
batkins_franklin50: yeah everything just works08:45
SeveasdabaSlon, i know, that's why i asked for the main config :)08:45
goofriderjon273, move your index,html out of apache2-default08:45
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batkins_the thing is, i have a vpn driver that needs to access the kernel source to compile itself, but it seems ubuntu doesnt come with source08:45
Seveasjgl try mount -t smbfs08:45
Seveasbatkins_, it does08:45
franklin50batkins_: Oh, it is incredible.  Have you checked out the amazing guide at http://www.ubuntuguide.org?08:45
goofrideror just remove the RewriteMatch sections08:45
jon273Seveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28228108:46
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batkins_franklin50: nope but i will08:46
dabaSlonjon273: I use apache1...08:46
batkins_Seveas: oh cool.  where is it?08:46
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JGLseveas: same result08:46
gfxstylerthx for nothing & bye08:46
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jon273goofrider, to /var/www ?08:46
keffoargh, forgot how to install GDM-themes ;P08:47
keffohow? ;P08:47
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JGLanyone?08:47
keffofound i08:47
keffot08:47
ohgoodkeffo: doesn't gdm's setup list locations ?08:47
batkins_where is the kernel source kept?08:47
bluefoxicyok so tag editing08:47
dabaSlonJGL: more info, that is just to open..08:47
Seveasjgl, do you mind if we talk in private?08:47
tritiumbatkins_, you have to install it first08:47
bluefoxicysome moron took all these CDS and put the album as the artist08:47
bluefoxicyand "CD Soundtracks" as the album08:48
batkins_tritium: ah ok08:48
bluefoxicy(so the genre as the album)08:48
bluefoxicyand I need to fix them08:48
bluefoxicyany clue?08:48
batkins_tritium: how? :)08:48
bluefoxicyrhythmbox refuses to alter id3 tags08:48
tritiumbatkins_, e.g., if you want the source to the kernel you're running, sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)08:48
goofriderjon273, yes to /var/www08:48
JGLdabaslon: what do you want to know?08:48
ohgoodbluefoxicy: easytag ?08:48
jon273tried it, nowt08:48
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jon273*same08:48
dabaSlonjgl, go with seveas, he knows more.08:48
JGLthnks08:48
goofriderjon273, did u change your documentroot too?08:48
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dabaSlonSeveas: he has some line about it, I never seen the apache config files, so...08:49
bluefoxicyohgood:  trying..  .08:49
goofriderand <directory "/var/www:>08:49
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batkins_tritium: perfect thanks08:49
tritiumbatkins_, sure08:49
goofriderthen restart apache208:49
dabaSlonSeveas: I mean the apache2 conf.08:49
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jon273goofrider, yeah, just treid that08:50
bluefoxicyohgood:  very nice.08:50
batkins_tritium: it said it couldn't find the package08:50
jon273DocumentIndex index.html ? Can i just put that in my VirtualHost bit?08:50
goofriderDirectoryIndex index,html... is already in your apache2.conf08:50
ohgoodbluefoxicy: agreed. hope it helps :)08:50
batkins_tritium: do i have to do something to get apt-get working?08:50
dabaSlonyeah, the directory index looks ok.08:50
ZotnixHaving an issue with glx loading.08:50
goofriderso it's the locale rewrite rules in /var/www/apache2-default that's screwinh u up08:50
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ZotnixIt's not commented out in my xorg.conf at all.08:51
ZotnixI have load     glx08:51
ZotnixXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".08:51
tritiumbatkins_, ah, sorry, just get linux-source-2.6.1008:51
ZotnixGetting that though08:51
alissahis there any website with resources for someone who wants to setup a "ubuntu migration" meeting (that is, get a lot of people who are interested in ubuntu to bring their laptop to a meeting and have other people help them install it and teach them how to use it)?  i am looking for some HOWTO guide or printed materials...or just success stories.08:51
ohgoodZotnix: how about pasting your config to pastbin or something ?08:51
goofriderjon273, DirectoryIndex index.html... is ALREADY in your conf08:51
Zotnixohgood: k08:51
goofriderline 202, apache2.conf08:51
eflynnugh, why do some debian users have to be such assholes.  heh08:51
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dabaSloneflynn: full of themselves?08:52
eflynndabaSlon, very much so08:52
x_orAnyone here use xfce 4.2 on ubuntu?08:52
ohgoodeflynn: sorry, all users have assholes. it's just the anatomy thing getting you.08:52
dabaSloneflynn: I noticed it as a common theme among many Zinux users.08:52
dabaSlonl\L08:52
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Seveasohgood, lol!08:53
eflynni asked a question about dpkg, this guy tells me three times to do "man dpkg"08:53
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eflynnlike i haven't read that already...08:53
eflynnthe man page08:53
jon273goofrider, ok. Wot else could it be?08:53
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dabaSloneflynn: here is an answer to your question...because debian users are also human, and some humans are what you said there, and there fore, it follows outof that, if you ahve any logic...08:53
Seveaseflynn, just read man dpkg08:54
ohgoodeflynn: well. alot of folks just know the exact location by heart in the man page, and think it will be obviouse. then again, alot of folks that just 'rtfm'-you don't know jack either ;)08:54
Seveas;)08:54
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Zotnixhttp://pastebin.com/28228608:54
ZotnixMy xorg.conf08:54
ohgoodeflynn: hmm, that didn't go right...08:54
ohgoodeflynn: i meant the folks that _say_ rtfm might not know jack :)08:54
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eflynnohgood, right, true08:54
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Seveaseflynn, but did you get an answer?08:55
goofriderjon273,  did u move index.html to /var/www, chnage the conf, and restarted apache?08:55
ZotnixWait a moment.08:55
ZotnixDoes glx need to be GLX?08:55
Zotnixload GLX rather than glx  ?08:55
ohgoodZotnix: checking mine...08:55
eflynnlike "This particular quirk of a certain program is so obvious I won't answer your damn question"08:55
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joeanyone know if Civilization3 will run with WINE?   (or where i can get cedega?)08:55
ohgoodZotnix: glx is fine08:55
ghaisls08:55
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eflynnSeveas, yeah it was about purging all packages that can be purged08:55
jon273goofrider, yeah, moved it, changed documentroot to /var/www and dd a restart - still the same08:56
dabaSlonjon273: do you have, or particularly want to use apache2?08:56
mindsporeHow can I install curl for php after installing php/apache via -> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PHPDevelopmentHowTo08:56
dabaSloninstead oof just apache?08:56
goofrideri use apache208:56
jon273wot's wrong with apache2?08:56
dabaSlonjon273: well, in your case...08:57
goofriderthe apache2-default language rewrite rules are specific to apache208:57
jon273i'm sure the fact that i'm using apache2 isn't the cause of the problem08:57
ohgoodZotnix: it looks fine. what errors do you have ?08:57
dabaSlonjon273: generally nothing, I just thought you could try that if all else fails.08:57
ZotnixXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".08:57
jon273http://server/index.html works, but if i don't specify the page i just get that drfault apache2 start page...08:57
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ZotnixThat's all.08:57
dabaSlonjon273: I agree. Just wanted to give you an option.08:57
ZotnixWhen trying to run glxgears08:57
ZotnixAlso glxinfo spits that out quite a bit as well.08:58
ohgoodZotnix: glxgears works though ?08:58
dabaSlondid you refresh?08:58
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dabaSlonthat sometimes happens to me...08:58
Zotnixohgood: Nope08:58
jon273ok, thx. I had apache2 working on another server though, it's just a config issue which I can't quite trace08:58
dabaSlon:(08:58
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dabaSlonclear cahce, and that...08:58
ohgoodZotnix: permissions on /dev/nvidia maybe, or have you: modprobe nvidia            yet ?08:58
goofriderjon273, but it shouldn't go to apache2-default08:58
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goofrideru have the RedirectMatch line COMMENTED OUT!!!!!08:59
Fackamatohi all08:59
Zotnixohgood: It's loaded. lsmod shows it. I didn't check permissions though08:59
dabaSlonhey Fackamato08:59
FackamatoI have a problem with Firefox - and forums08:59
Fackamatotext in [code]  segments won't show08:59
FackamatoI have to select the text, copy and paste it into gedit for example08:59
Zotnixcrw-rw----   1 root video   195,   0 2005-05-10 14:47 nvidia008:59
alissahok....no response, let me rephrase my question then: are there any people who are interested in promoting ubuntu in China? ubuntu08:59
Fackamatoany ideas on that? :<08:59
Fackamatousing firefox 1.0308:59
Zotnixcrw-rw----   1 root video   195, 255 2005-05-10 14:47 nvidiact08:59
jon273goofrider, the documentroot for the dfault virtualhost should be /var/www ?08:59
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Zotnixroot gets the same issue.08:59
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goofriderjon273, u sure there isn't any other conf parts in conf.d or sites-enabled that might be there, like a backup??08:59
goofriderjon273, yes. I changed your conf file09:00
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goofriderhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28228909:00
dabaSlonjon273: Make sure you did what I had said, the cache and that, sometimes that happens to me like that, although I am sure you did that, but just to be sure.09:00
amaroWhere can I find gecko-sdk?09:00
ohgoodZotnix: iirc i chmod'd mine to 666 or something for all /dev/nvidia* then it worked fine09:00
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ohgoodZotnix: or it's a pam thing. can't remember exactly09:00
goofriderjon273, but like I said,     "#RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/"  <--- you had it commented out09:01
goofriderso it shouldn't have redirected u at all09:01
jon273omfg09:01
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jon273it was the cache09:01
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dabaSlonyeah, sometimes that happens..09:01
goofridercache?09:01
Amaranthcrimsun: ?09:01
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dabaSlonthat is normal, jon273, who would haveg thought of that....09:01
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dabaSlonbut, a skilled troubleshooter...09:01
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dabaSlonlol09:01
goofriderLMAO09:01
jon273goofrider, firefox had cached the old apache page and wasn't giving me the ew one09:01
goofrideryour browser cache?09:01
kikillohello guys09:02
klimitAny CD writing programs other than gnomebaker???09:02
goofriderLMAO09:02
mindsporehow do i install the CURL extension after installing apache2/php4 via -> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PHPDevelopmentHowTo09:02
ohgoodklimit: k3b09:02
kikilloi have ubuntu09:02
goofriderit's all good09:02
dabaSlonim not lmao, cause I had that happen so many times...09:02
Juhazgraveman09:02
mindsporenautilus09:02
comforteagletrying to install ndiswrapper drivers for ubuntu on PPC: getting "dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture powerpc does not appear in package's list" when "make deb".09:02
dabaSlonjon273: sweet, issue resolved.09:02
jon273Cheers people, for persevering09:02
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klimitohgood: this would install kde, won't it?09:02
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Zotnixohgood: think I found my problem.09:03
dabaSlonjon273: AS iF I have anything better to do, Im waiting for my laundry to dry, so I can dress finally.09:03
ohgoodklimit: oh i dunno. maybe the kde-base or whatever. k3b > *  for cd/dvd gui-ness imho09:03
timmowcan anyone reccomend a good wireless mouse/keyboard?09:03
timmowthat works with ubuntu09:03
ohgoodZotnix: ya ?09:03
dabaSlonapple bluetooth wireless mouse.09:03
dabaSlonI use that.09:03
goofriderthe ones u own... just cut the cords.. voila!09:03
dabaSlon:-p09:03
ohgoodlater09:03
goofriderLMAO09:04
jon273lol09:04
goofrider:)09:04
Seveastimmow, any wireless kb/mouse that connects via ps2 will work09:04
Seveasmost usb ones too09:04
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klimitAny CD writing programs other than gnomebaker???09:04
goofridertimmow, the Logitech bluetooth ones are pretty good as well09:04
dabaSlonthey told you that...09:04
Seveastimmow, i never had a single problem with logitech/microsoft/dell/labtec09:04
dabaSlonklimit: they answered that,.09:04
timmowyea its a laptop so has to be usb09:04
goofrideri get get the kbd/mse in a bundle09:04
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dabaSlonscroll up o the first time you asked.09:04
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timmowdo they interfere if you don't?09:05
dabaSlonklimit: or maybe that was someone else..09:05
paul_i'm trying to install a vpn driver that needs access to the linux source, so i installed "linux-source-2.6.8.1".  but when i tried to compile the driver, it threw a ton of errors.  should i install linux-headers?  and if so, what version/09:06
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dabaSlonklimit: can you apt-cache search for it? or synaptic search?09:06
Seveaslinux-headers-`uname -r`-$YOUR_ARCH09:06
goofriderpaul_,  that's not even the right kernel version for hoary09:06
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paul_goofrider, i think i'm on warty09:06
goofrideroh ok09:07
goofrideru'll need headers09:07
Seveaswait, skip the -$YOUR_ARCHm that's in the uname, d'oh09:07
paul_Seveas, thanks09:07
paul_Seveas, all right09:07
Seveaspaul_, and you don't need linux source09:07
goofriderwhat VPN driver is that? is there a DEB version?09:07
Seveasjust the headers will do :)09:07
n4chthas anyone had problems with gnome freaking out after changing fonts?  gnome-panel, etc crash randomly now after i changed my fonts around, and i can't reset them to default.09:07
paul_goofrider, cisco vpn09:07
paul_Seveas, oh ok09:07
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nnonixI installed then later removed apache2 using apt-get and now see errors on shutdown saying "ep: /etc/apache2/* no file found" Anyone point me in the right direction?09:08
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goofrideroh yeah.. u'll probly need to comile it yourself... LOL09:08
goofriderbut would this work?   "vpnc - Cisco-compatible VPN client"09:08
paul_Seveas, where do the kernel headers get installed?  /usr/src/linux or somewhere else?09:09
Seveas/usr/src/linux it is09:09
goofridernnonix, maybe u need to remove apache2-*09:09
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goofriderapache2 is just a virtual package09:09
n4chtwhat's the gnome default font?09:09
goofriderapt-get remove apache2 probly does virtually nothing09:10
dabaSlonSeveas: did you catch what the issue with apache2 was?09:10
stashi09:10
dabaSlonyo09:10
stasDoes CD emulatiot exist for ubuntu?09:10
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stasI need to mount my clonecd09:10
ggrossyou can mount iso09:10
stasbin/cue09:10
stasnrg09:10
stascdi09:10
dabaSlonwhat like mounting a iso without burning it?09:10
stasetc images09:11
goofriderstas, u mean like mounting the ISO?09:11
stasyeah09:11
dabaSlonyup09:11
staslike daemon tools09:11
goofriderjust mount it as a loopback09:11
stasI tried09:11
nnonixgoofrider: yes, there are several apache2 turds on my system.09:11
stasit doesn't work at all for anything but the most basic formats09:11
goofridernnonix, remove them all09:11
jon273now, to figure out how to get apache2 ssl goin09:11
jon273..09:11
stasI need mds/mdf, and clonecd09:11
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goofriderstas, it shouldn't work on anything but ISO 9660 Mode 1 2048 type ISo09:12
dabaSlonSeveas: did you catch that?09:12
stasI can't even figure out how to burn them09:12
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dabaSlonjon273: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/ is a good place to start if noone here knows.09:12
Seveasjon273, install the correct module, create a certificate and config :)09:12
goofriderjon273, : I link u to it b409:12
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stasgoofrider unfortunately no cd images I have use that09:12
stasexcept for maybe ubuntu cd image09:13
stas;p09:13
dabaSlonstas: there are instructions on ubuntuguide.org, should we send him there, guys?09:13
jon273does apt have the module? or do i have to do it *shudder* manually?09:13
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stasI couldn't find anything for clonecd...09:13
neighborleehow do I install something from CDROM ?09:13
stasor for Media Descriptor files...09:13
stas(.mds+.mdf)09:13
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dabaSlonstas: this page may have it: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning .09:14
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stasI don't need to mount any ISO files though09:14
stas;\09:14
dabaSlonneighborlee: what is on the cd?09:14
dabaSlonok.09:14
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stasI have cd images in different formats09:15
stasbin/cue09:15
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stasccd/sub/cue09:15
stasmds/mdf09:15
stasnrg09:15
stascdi09:15
goofriderthey're just image formats though09:15
stasbut no ISO!09:15
Seveasneighborlee, it simply depends on what it is: a debfile, raw sourcecode, or an installer09:15
goofriderwhat INSIDE the images?09:15
stasthat method on the site09:15
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neighborleedabaSlon, well I borked system sadly by installing a gimp .deb from a link at gimp.org ( needed to try newer version) and now two broken packages are causing major systemwide borkage LOL..so I need to install some packages from cdrom to fix I thinik09:15
stasI tried it -- it won't work for these09:15
stasgames, mostly ;p09:15
laurent_salut as tous09:15
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neighborleeSeveas, deb. packages yeah09:15
stasvcds09:15
goofriderstas, are they games (with data and red book audio)///09:15
goofriderare they mode 1 data or mode 2 ?09:16
Seveasneighborlee, have you already removed the faulty gimp?09:16
stasI don't know what redbook audio is09:16
nnonixgoofrider: That did it, thanks a bunch!09:16
stasI have no idea09:16
laurent_quelqu'un parle le franais09:16
stason windows I would use Alcohol 120%09:16
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amarojeu parle un pue de francais09:16
stasI used it to mount Sims 209:16
amarolol09:16
Seveaslaurent_, #ubunt-fr09:16
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stasdvd images09:16
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laurent_je debute sous linux09:16
stasand to burn dreamcast games (they come on cdi an nrg images)09:17
jackassi need help. where can i find "codecs" to musik and video player?09:17
stasI've no clue how to do any of those on linux09:17
Seveaslaurent_, on parle anglais ici, les gens de #ubuntu-fr parlent anglais09:17
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stasexcept for ISOs09:17
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stasbut I have no use for that, since there are no isos ;|09:17
laurent_et voudrais bien que quelqu'un puisse m'expliquer comment installer un logiciel09:17
neighborleeSeveas, not possible..it wants to remove tons of packages along with it09:17
sabmannmoh09:17
Seveasneighborlee, ouch09:18
neighborleeSeveas, heh yeah09:18
laurent_moi ne parle pas du tout l'anglais desoler09:18
tritiumlaurent_, #ubuntu-fr09:18
neighborleeSeveas, I saw no warnings initially so I thought nothing of it09:18
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dabaSlonjackass: you can read about restricted formats at wiki.ubuntulinux.org09:18
ChoubakaOk.09:18
goofriderstas, maybe u should get Nero for Linux09:18
ChoubakaI want to create a virtual font that uses a specific font for Japanese characters and another for western characters.09:19
Seveasneighborlee, well the only way i konw of is simply letting it uninstall all the things and reinstall it later by installing ubuntu-desktop09:19
stasok09:19
Choubakait ought to be possible09:19
staswill it help me mount images?09:19
Choubakabut how exactly is it done?09:19
neighborleeSeveas, there is no way to force apt-get to install something from cdrom ? ;-)09:19
neighborleeSeveas, if not yeah prob.09:19
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Seveasneighborlee, not if the version on cd is lower (iirc)09:20
goofriderstas, found this09:20
goofriderhttp://cdemu.sourceforge.net/09:20
dabaSlonjackass: got it? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ there is a wiki search link, then search restrictedformats, or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:20
neighborleeSeveas, ah ok09:20
goofriderstas, that should be what u need09:20
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ivoks\sh in the end, money was ok :)09:21
amaroUbuntu Garlic09:21
amaro:)09:21
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goofrider"CDemu was first created to support bin/cue images. Ideally, we'd like to be able to support Nero (.nrg), Disc Juggler (.cdi), Clone CD (.ccd), etc."09:22
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dabaSlonivoks, what does that post mean?09:22
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Seveasneighborlee, try dpkg -r gimp (or whataver the packagename was)09:23
ivokswrong group09:23
dabaSlonk09:23
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goofriderstas, u still there?09:24
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neighborleeSeveas, ok09:24
goofriderstas, there's a list of more ISO/NRG/CCD tools for Linux  http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/User:Phobie:Newbies09:24
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goofriderand http://www.infoanarchy.org/wiki/index.php/Conversion_Tools09:26
ivoksdoes anyone has wifi here?09:26
crimsunI do09:26
Zenhey all.. any idea where i can get the divx codecs?09:26
ivokscrimsun on linux?09:26
crimsunZen: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:26
crimsunivoks: yep.09:26
FackamatoI have a problem with Firefox - and forums09:26
Fackamatotext in [code]  segments won't show09:26
Fackamatoany ideas on that? :<09:26
Fackamatousing firefox 1.0309:26
FackamatoI have to select the text, copy and paste it into gedit for example09:27
ivokscrimsun is it ok that signal level is -something?09:27
neighborleeSeveas, it worked for gimp but im synatpic still says 'two' broken packages even though to fix it wants to remove TONS of things <G>09:27
ivokscrimsun like: Signal level=-51 dBm09:27
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neighborleeSeveas, I think your sollution is becoming increasingly like reality ;-))09:27
crimsunivoks: yep09:27
tritiumivoks, yes, negative values in dB are ok09:27
crimsunLink Quality=77/100  Signal level=-48 dBm  Noise level=-76 dBm09:27
Seveasneighborlee, can you paste the error on ubuntu.pastebin.com please09:27
ivokscrimsun ok, can you help me debug something?09:27
neighborleeSeveas, sure09:27
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crimsunivoks: I can attempt to09:28
Zenok i have a prob09:28
crimsunivoks: I've only been using 802.11 for a few days09:28
Zenim trying to transcode a dvd and when i try i get an error message saying that it cant find the divx plugin09:28
ivokscrimsun ok... i created http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/wifi-radar_1.9.3-1_i386.deb package for ubuntu09:28
Zenits a linux program09:28
Zencalled dvdrip09:28
Zenthanks if anyone knows the solution09:28
ivokscrimsun it works ok, but signal level isn't displayed well09:28
goofriderneighborlee, u can do apt-get install gimp=3.4.5ubuntu109:29
Fator_DeeZen: have you installed w32codecs?09:29
goofriderand it'll specific the exact version, downgrade if neccessary09:29
ZenFator: Yeah09:29
neighborleeSeveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28230109:29
ivokscrimsun you should check out /etc/wifi-radar.conf if you are going to install it09:29
Zenbut ill check again09:29
Razor-Xwhey09:29
dabaSlonZen: and you did what crimsun just said?09:29
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crimsunivoks: try looking at the network monitor applet's source09:29
dabaSlonRazor-X: whi!09:30
Fator_DeeZen: and paths to them are right on the dvdrip preferences?09:30
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Razor-Xwhat's a good program to try and recover possible borken hard drives (ip possible)?09:30
Razor-X*if09:30
ivokscrimsun it's python?09:30
Seveasneighborlee, run dpkg -r on gimp-data09:30
Razor-XI heard it is slightly possible, and a friend's HDD just broke09:30
Fator_Deeif that program has preferences, but I at least guess so :-p09:30
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Razor-X(i'm at school by the way, so my time is limited)09:30
ZenFator.. WHat would those paths be?09:30
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Seveasneighborlee, and please disable all non-ubuntu sources in your sources.list09:30
amaroWhat's i686?09:31
amaropentium 4?09:31
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goofrideror apt-get install gimp-data=2.2.2-1ubuntu509:31
crimsunivoks: nope09:31
ZenFator_Dee.. what would the paths be? Does anyone here have that program?09:31
Razor-Xcan't wait to get back to my Ubuntu box, I used Ubuntu for about... 2 minutes yesterday, and that's it09:32
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Razor-Xand, does the default kernel in Ubuntu come ready to write to NTFS?09:32
dabaSlonRazor-X: no.09:32
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ggrossRazor-X : not yet09:32
dabaSlonRazor-X: as for the hdd repair tool, nope.09:32
dabaSlonI dont know of any.09:33
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dabaSlonIm about to fix one, though, so I may nknow in a few hours.09:33
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jon273yeah, kewl09:33
Zenanybody here?09:33
jackassi cant install things in /usr/local/ becuse it says i'm not the owner., where to change?09:33
ivoksdoh... c :)09:33
REBELinBLUEhey09:33
dabaSlonjackass: did you read what I posted?09:33
Razor-XdabaSlon: ahhh, ok09:33
shido6Package libotr1-bin is not configured yet.09:33
ghaishu guys, when i try to mount my usb usin mount /dev/sda or sda1 it gives an error that says can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or mtab09:33
Seveasjackass, instal it as root...09:33
dabaSlonjackass: how are you installing?09:34
Seveasghais, try pmount /dev/sda09:34
REBELinBLUEhas anyone been able to get Rythmbox to play m4a files?09:34
jon273If anybody ever wants a nice quick howto about setting apache2 up with ssl, bookmark this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4466.html Fourth port for apache2, third for apache109:34
Razor-Xil'l just use PMagic reading/writing in the meantime09:34
crimsunREBELinBLUE: yes09:34
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REBELinBLUEI have installered gstreamer-faad09:34
Razor-X*i'll09:34
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REBELinBLUE*installed09:34
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REBELinBLUEis there something else I need to do?09:34
crimsunREBELinBLUE: rb needs to be made aware of m4as09:35
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crimsunREBELinBLUE: that requires source changes09:35
dabaSlonI ue xmms, and xmms has a package for mp4s, is there an equialent for rhytmbox?09:35
crimsundabaSlon: not yet09:35
Zenim trying to transcode a dvd and when i try i get an error message saying that it cant find the divx plugin.. anybody got a fix?09:35
jackassas root, i'll se09:35
REBELinBLUEthe ubuntu wiki says you just need to install gstreamer-faad09:35
REBELinBLUEo_O09:35
dabaSloncrimsun: hi, I was totally ripping you off last night...every time someone came back and said"that worked" I was like, "Excellent"...and stuff.09:36
crimsunhehe09:36
dabaSlonREBELinBLUE: Either modify the source, I guess, or, get xmms, and it has a plugin for mp4s.09:36
Zenrebelinblue: Were you talking to me?09:36
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dabaSlonYou may need to change the default plugin in xmms to esound, through properties, to get it to not freeze when you pklay.09:37
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dabaSlonZen: no he was not,09:37
REBELinBLUEyes I know about xmms09:37
dabaSlonREBELinBLUE: ok, cool, you have an alternative,09:37
Zendamn.. so does noone here know about a divx plugin for dvdrip?09:37
dabaSlonit is illegal, for one...09:38
goofriderffmpeg?09:38
goofriderlibavcodec?09:38
dabaSlonhaha...09:38
REBELinBLUEbut one of the reasons I switched from fedora to ubuntu was because the wiki says https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats you can play AAC files in rhythmbox by simply installing gstreamer0.8-faad09:38
dabaSlonhaha we fooled another one;)09:38
goofriderROTFL09:38
REBELinBLUE:p09:38
Seveasif you like xmms, consider beep-media-player too09:39
Seveasit's a gtk2 port of xmms09:39
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Seveasmuch nicer :)09:39
crimsuna number of other players can play m4a. I use kaffeine and amarok with gstreamer0.8-faad09:39
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Lathiatmuine is nice too09:39
ivokscrimsun haha a bug in program09:39
ivokscrimsun look at this:09:39
CarlKI have an nvidia card, I have the nvidia-glx/kernel packages installed - how can I tell if they are being used?09:39
eflynnSeveas, my only complaint with beep is that it doesn't have "add directory" like xmms does :-009:39
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Fator_DeeCarlK: glxinfo | grep direct, if it's on, good09:40
crimsunCarlK: /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status09:40
Lathiateflynn: yeh it does09:40
REBELinBLUEI tried beep but it doesn't play AAC support without a patch and I really can't be bothered downloading the 18mb of dev files needed to add the patch09:40
eflynnLathiat, where09:40
Lathiatlet me check09:40
necoriumi need to edit some files but when i type 'edit /etc/modules' it says stuff like 'Warning:unknown mime -type for /etc/modules error: no edit mailcap rules found for type application/*' any ideas?09:40
crimsunREBELinBLUE: I'm working on that. It should be available in Breezy.09:40
Lathiati prefer rhythmbox myself09:40
CarlKcat: /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status: No such file or directory09:40
Lathiataltho lack of software EQ is annoying09:41
clausmehello09:41
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clausmeproblem09:41
LathiatCarlK: have you updated your xorg.conf?09:41
REBELinBLUE<Lathiat> i prefer rhythmbox myself <--- yes same here09:41
clausmeover here09:41
dabaSlonnecorium: tried sudo that>09:41
necoriumhmmm i think so09:41
necoriumlet me go try09:41
Lathiatmuine is nice09:41
dabaSlonoh yeah, bmp is a nice little program.09:42
dabaSlonpretty...09:42
Lathiatbut the lack of a random option after exhausting the queue is annoying09:42
eflynnclausme, Try asking a question caveman09:42
Lathiatnot that rhythmbox has a queue09:42
clausmehecking for X... no09:42
clausmechecking for Qt... ls: /lib/libqt*: No such file or directory09:42
clausme/usr/lib/libqthreads.so.12  /usr/lib/libqthreads.so.12.3.009:42
clausmeno09:42
clausmeconfigure: error: "Qt library is required to compile VyQChat!"09:42
clausmeclausme@clausme:~/tot/vyq/vyqchat-0.2.7$09:42
clausmethis is the qouestion09:42
Seveasclausme, please don't paste here!09:42
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Lathiateflynn: just selec tit09:42
Lathiateflynn: in add files09:42
dabaSlonclausme: we told you abnout pastebin, already...09:42
clausmenow is to late09:42
clausmei know09:42
Lathiateflynn: just click the directory (dont open it, select it in the parent directory) and hit add09:42
dabaSlonits harder to read ehre.09:42
ggrossin order to make OpenGL executable, wich lib does i neeD ?09:42
eflynnLathiat, hmm lemme try09:42
clausmenow i've done it09:42
clausmecan you help pls09:43
Seveasclausme, install the libqt3-dev package09:43
clausmefrom where09:43
dabaSlonsudo apt-get install lib....09:43
Lathiatggross: what do you mean make opengl executable09:43
clausmek09:43
Seveasfrom synaptic09:43
Lathiatggross: opengl is a library used by other programs09:43
Seveasor apt-get09:43
dabaSlonor synaptic, right.09:43
crimsun(libqt3-mt-dev, at least, which replaces libqt3-dev)09:43
dabaSlonSynaptic is a nice GUI.09:43
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eflynncrap, now it doesn't start09:44
dabaSlonclausme: read what crimsun said.09:44
crimsun(you'll probably need libqt3-compat-headers, too)09:44
clausmek09:44
crimsun(and you probably need to set the Qtdir path)09:44
ggrosswell ... how to translate ? i mean a C# prog which use GLU et GL ?09:44
dabaSloneflynn: what was taht caveman part about?09:44
neighborleeSeveas, I removed gimp and gimp-data but my problems persist ;-))heh09:44
eflynndabaSlon, lol, in reference to what clausme said09:44
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Seveasneighborlee, please post the updated error message then, and we'll take the next step :)09:45
neighborleeokj09:45
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neighborleeSeveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/282307 < there ya go09:46
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Seveasneighborlee, dpkr -r libfontconfig1 and dpkg -r libfontconfig1-dev09:47
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Seveasthey are still pestering :)09:47
neighborleehe yeah09:47
neighborleek trying09:47
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neighborleeSeveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/282308 < getting uglier LOL09:48
neighborleeSeveas, ouch strike that one09:49
Seveaswhoopsie09:49
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Seveasneighborlee, some diagnostic info: paste the output of dpkg -l | grep libfontconfig109:50
karillpy09:50
dabaSloneflynn: you sure thats not the same as the man reference?09:50
neighborleeSeveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/282310 < yup...there that one is fine09:50
ivokscrimsun hm... what's best signal level?09:50
neighborleeSeveas, k one sec09:50
dabaSlonivoks: best signal level ins the optimal level of a signal:-p09:51
ivokscrimsun is -50 better than -70? :)09:51
dabaSlonthe best one, on the other hand...09:51
tritiumivoks, the closer to 0 the better09:52
ivoksok09:52
eflynndabaSlon, how do you mean?09:52
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tritiumivoks, that would be full signal (1.0), and 10*log10(1) = 009:52
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dabaSloneflynn: nothing, fro\\iorget it, jj...09:53
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ivokstritium then... ok signal is beetween 0 and... 60?09:54
tritiumivoks, yes09:54
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mxrcan someone help with an graphics driver issue?09:55
CarlKLathiat - the only thing I did was click around in synaptic, but I think it will update xorg.conf09:55
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LathiatCarlK: right09:55
tritiumivoks, positive values are even better09:55
LathiatCarlK: you need to sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:55
Lathiatcarlk: and change "nv" to "nvidia"09:56
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LathiatCarlK: then logout, and press control-alt-backspace to restart X09:56
ivoksi give up :)09:56
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LathiatCarlK: also, you need the linux-restricted-modules-386 package installed09:56
ivoksif signal == 0 then return signal_best_pb?09:56
tritiumCarlK, you might use "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" instead09:56
CarlKwoa.. glxinfo -display :0.0... bunch of stuff, Segmentation fault09:56
LathiatCarlK: (or -686, -k7 if you have installed an ubuntu  kernel other than the default)09:56
ivoks>= 009:56
kratzHow can i find my windows partiton from my ubuntu? I really need help09:57
LathiatCarlK: yeh that wont work till you do the changes i said09:57
Lathiatkratz: hi kratz09:57
CarlKLathiat - but segfault?09:57
tritiumivoks, query me09:57
Razor-XKubuntu doesen't have Firefox in it's menus....09:57
Lathiatcarlk: yeh, sucks :)09:57
ivokstritium ?09:57
Razor-Xbut, I can open it from the terminal, rgiht?09:57
Lathiatkratz: Is mounting your windows partition all you need help with? (or do you have some other problems)09:57
kratzlathiat :hi^09:57
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sparklingsera09:57
kratzlathiat :i have lots of problems..09:58
Lathiatkratz: ok, lets start at the begging, whats the most important problem you have?09:58
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RiddellRazor-X: kubuntu doesn't come with firefox09:58
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anethemadont use k7 etc to install restricted modules!09:58
anethemasudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)09:58
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anethemathis will install the proper version09:58
Lathiatanethema: theres an idea, i never thought of that09:59
kratzlathiat :the network... cant find other coputers... i cant use "make" command..09:59
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Lathiatkratz: ok, so we'll solve those two things09:59
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Lathiatkratz: What are you trying to compile with "make"09:59
batkins_to get software suspend working, do i have to build my own kernel?09:59
batkins_i'm on warty09:59
mxrI have a S3 TwisterK running with the savage driver currently, however have some issues while playing xvid. seems like hardware accel is not working properly. please PM me if someone can help09:59
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jackassNeed help.. Can't get any text in the Terminal.10:00
Lathiatjackass: Can you please describe your problem more clearly10:00
Lathiatbatkins_: It is supported in hoary, i don't think it was on warty tho10:00
larsrohdinjackass, do you have a keyboard?10:00
hhurttahow can i search for a package containing a file with a specific pattern. Like in mandrake one uses command urpmf --file pattern10:00
kratzlathiat :Install graphic samba... gnombe10:00
jackassyes10:00
jackassit have been working10:00
larsrohdin=)10:00
Lathiathhurtta: dpkg -S <pattern>10:00
hhurttaLathiat: thanks10:00
Lathiatkratz: ping10:01
batkins_Lathiat: is it simple to upgrade from warty to hoary10:01
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kratzlathiat :I?10:01
anethemavery simple10:01
anethemaincredibly simple10:01
anethemahehe10:01
Lathiatkratz: sorry just read10:01
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Lathiatkratz: ok, if you want to install programs in ubuntu10:01
jackassi open the terminal window then when i press the keyboard the letter came up but it dissipare right away10:01
Lathiatkratz: you shoudl first go system->administration->synaptic package manager10:01
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Lathiatkratz: This lets you install ubuntu packages, that will work much better than if you compile them yourself10:02
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Lathiatkratz: if you want to browse other computers o the network10:03
jackassLathiat? are you talking to me?10:03
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Seveasbatkins_: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:03
phil__hi10:03
jackassNeed help.. Can't get any text in the Terminal.10:03
Lathiatkratz: You can choose places->network, wait a bit and they should appear (You may also have to look under windows servers)10:03
rj_is it true there are sabayon packages being built for breezy?10:03
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kratzlathiat :okej? i have updated my pakages, and added "wine" packeges... but then, i dont understand more what to do... im a total newbie^^10:03
phil__ich hab da n prob.10:03
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jackassNeed help.. Can't get any text in the Terminal.10:03
Lathiatkratz: ok so you do a search for wine10:04
phil__das hat ja kein sinn hier10:04
kratzlathiat :there is nothing under windows servers... its total emty..10:04
Lathiatkratz: then you can click on the little icon and hit mark for installation10:04
jackassNeed help.. Can't get any text in the Terminal.10:04
Lathiatkratz: and then press apply on the toolbar, and it will intsall it10:04
bhnaphil__: #ubuntu-de10:04
Lathiatkratz: have you waited? (it takes a minute to come up)10:04
phil__or alt f4 lol10:04
Lathiatkratz: installing the samba package might help (but it shoudl work)10:04
kratzlathiat :i ve done tath allready..10:04
Lathiatkratz: right, you ahve to use wine from the command line10:04
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batkins_Seveas: wow10:05
Lathiatkratz: cd into the directory with the windows program you want10:05
Lathiatkratz: and run "wine program.exe"10:05
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kratzlathiat :okey... okey^ i l try that10:05
wiehi folks10:05
jackassNeed help.. Can't get any text in the Terminal.10:05
Lathiatkratz: be aware that unfortunately, wine doesnt run everything10:05
Lathiatand will probably fail10:05
Lathiatjackass: What are you trying to do10:06
Lathiatjackass: can you type in other applications ?10:06
wiewhat mp3 player for gnome 2.10 ? (xmms won work !?) pls. help10:06
jackassim trying to get sound on my soundtracks and movie but i can't do it when my terminal dosen't work10:06
kratzlathiat :yeah, i know. but i shall give it a try:D10:06
jackassi open the terminal window then when i press the keyboard the letter came up but it dissipare right away10:06
Lathiatwie: to fix xmms10:06
Seveaswie, totem, beep, rhythmbox10:06
Seveasxmms can be fixed too10:06
anethemabeep10:06
Lathiatwie: open preferences, udner output choose the 'esound' output plugin10:06
anethemaxmms SUCKS compared to beep10:06
Lathiatwie: also, try muine, rhythmbox, beep-media-player10:06
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anethemabeep-media-player10:07
anethemathats what you want forsure.10:07
factorxbeep sucks compared to amarok10:07
anethemadont even bother with xmms10:07
anethemaso buggy10:07
Lathiatmuine and rhythmbox will just work10:07
anethemaamarok ?10:07
anethemais it xmms-like ?10:07
factorxno10:07
Lathiatbeep-media-player needs configuration too.10:07
anethemawinamp-like ?10:07
factorxno10:07
jackassyes i can write in other applications10:07
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Lathiatanethema: beep-media-player is very much like xmms/winamp10:07
anethemaLathiat, i know thats what i want10:07
anethemaits liek xmms10:07
Lathiatjackass: how do you open the terminal, and what do you see and waht happens10:07
anethemabut not half as buggy or slow.10:07
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wieok, i will try beep ! thanks10:07
Lathiatslow is debatable10:07
factorxhttp://amarok.kde.org/index.php?set_albumName=Screenshots&option=com_gallery&Itemid=60&include=view_album.php10:08
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factorxfor amarok screenshots10:08
anethemaxmms is much slower seeking and stuff than beep10:08
anethemaah its a kde prog10:08
spektrDMA works now... I inserted amd74xx as first module into /etc/modules. Before I did that, the module had been loaded automatically, too, but it didn't work. Hmmm....10:08
Lathiatyeh but due to gtk2, some dialogs are slower loading10:08
jackassprogram/system tools/terminal10:08
Lathiatlike the up dialog10:08
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batkins_Seveas: thanks10:08
anethemai need my col stuff like using the J key to filter for songs10:08
anethemacool10:08
anethemait does look pretty tho10:09
anethemaplus, beep uses winamp classic skins10:09
anethemathere are millions of those10:09
anethemaehh10:09
anethemaheh10:09
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jackassand when the terminal comes up it's like normal like it was from the beginnig10:09
jackasswhite10:09
anethemaeugh white terminal10:09
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anethemahahah damnit10:09
anethemai, will, get. used to! it...did i use those right ?10:10
anethemadoh!10:10
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Lathiatjackass: what is on screen10:10
tritiumanethema, heh10:10
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anethemadamn ive been  helping necorium for like a week now getting isdn working10:10
jackassdo you mea what else folders or what else on the Terminal screen?10:10
anethemaits NOT easy when he has no net connection in linux haha10:10
Lathiatjackass: what on the terminal screen10:11
factorxsorry for off-topic but does anybody know where to get sound-absorbing cellular material? :)10:11
factorxfoam10:11
ggrossyeah ... bought eggs boxes10:11
jackassnothing it's white10:11
Lathiatjackass: doesnt have "username@host:~$" up in the top left hand cofner?10:12
factorxeggs boxes aren't efficient enough10:12
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t35t0rI've got the following wireless device: ndiswrapper version 1.1 loaded (preempt=yes,smp=no) | ndiswrapper: driver bcmwl5 (Broadcom,10/20/2004, 3.70.22.0) loaded ..and i'm trying to use wpa_supplicant to connect to my router, but whenever I try to connect manually I get this error: /root# wpa_supplicant -dd -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dndiswrapper | Failed to initialize EAPOL state machines. ..this same driver in winxp works with wpa-psk ..any ideas10:12
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t35t0r what's wrong?10:12
Lathiatfactorx: no but i could suggest nto making any noise. :)10:12
jackassgonna check*10:12
internet1Hello, i lost my password, how can i restore it^10:12
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Lathiatinternet1: Your user password?10:12
internet1yes10:12
internet1after the installation10:12
Lathiatinternet1: when you boot10:12
internet1i haventt a root yet10:12
factorxLathiat: it isn't me who makes the noise, it's my sister ;)10:12
anethemahttp://ubuntuguide.org/#changerootpasswordforgotten10:12
anethemafollow that10:12
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Lathiatugh10:13
Lathiatthats bad10:13
jackassnoo10:13
Lathiatubuntuguide is the suck10:13
Lathiatinternet1: please ignore that10:13
anethemano way10:13
Lathiatinternet1: when you boot up, select the 'recovery' option (you may have to hit scape to get the menu)10:13
Lathiatinternet1: then when it loads, type "passwd username"10:13
TMMt35t0r: short answer: ndiswrapper isn't perfect, long answer, google :) ndiswrapper is VERY unsported by most people, and most people want to stay the hell away from it. I only use it on one machine myself, because the wifi is integrated in the laptop, and I'm thinking about just putting in a supported chip.10:13
anethemathats exactly what it says to do Lathiat, jeeze10:13
Lathiatinternt1: and you can enter a new password, after that, type reboot and it should work fine.10:13
t35t0rTMM: google was no help10:13
anethemamaybe you need to take a look at it too :)10:13
Lathiatanethema: sure but it also recommends changing the root password10:14
anethemano10:14
anethemaits saying IF you forget your root password10:14
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anethemathe if is important10:14
t35t0rTMM, ndiswrapper works fine with WEP10:14
TMMt35t0r: ndiswrapper is only for the really desperate... if you can, buy another wifi card, with proper NATIVE support.10:14
t35t0rTMM, pfff10:14
Lathiatwhich is confusin10:14
Lathiatg10:14
Amaranthoh, i'm supposed to be helping people or something now :)10:14
Lathiatand then theyll read the rest of that damn page. :)10:14
TMMt35t0r: just trying to help, sorry.10:14
Lathiatwhich has some good advice but too much bad stuff :\10:14
jackassi don't have any jackass ....... it's gone top10:14
jackasstoo*10:14
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anethemaubuntu guide solves about 95 percent of the peoples questions in this channel that ive seen asked10:14
tritiumLathiat, agreed!10:14
anethemaa couple programs on there though10:14
AmaranthLathiat: What happened to you getting ops?10:14
Lathiatanethema: doesnt mean it solves them right10:15
anethemathat dont use the recommended method10:15
LathiatAmaranth: i think i shoudl wait...10:15
LathiatAmaranth: till im a member and stuff10:15
Amaranthah10:15
LathiatAmaranth: and a little more visibly involved10:15
Amaranthi'm not a member10:15
Lathiatwhich im in the process of getting10:15
Amaranthoh, i think i've got that part down :)10:15
Lathiatheh10:15
Lathiatyeh10:15
AirWaysWhen I put apt-get install amule terminal says: amule packet not found etc10:15
LathiatAirWays: You may need to enable the universe archive10:15
anethemaAirWays, did you add the extra repositories?10:15
LathiatAirWays: Are you running hoary?10:15
anethemauniverse or perhaps multiverse, wherever it happens to be10:16
AirWaysYeah Hoary10:16
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jackasslathiat??10:16
LathiatAirWays: go into system->administration->synaptic package manager10:16
AirWaysShould I edit sources.lisT?10:16
AirWaysOkay10:16
franklin50What is the difference between universe and multiverse?10:16
LathiatAirWays: settings->repostiroies, add, select universe10:16
TMMt35t0r: the fact that a driver works with something in winxp, doesn't mean that ndiswrapper implements all that behaviour from windows. Ndiswrapper is basically a reimplementation of part of the windows NT kernel, and a bunch of userland stuff... it's not just a 'loader for windows drivers' it does a lot.10:16
LathiatAirWays: ok to everything and reload the package list10:16
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Lathiatfranklin50: multiverse includes programs that are 'non-free'10:17
tritiumfranklin50, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view10:17
internet1hello again, im trying but hi have a powerpoc10:17
franklin50Ah, thanks!10:17
internet1so i haven't grub but yaboot10:17
Lathiatjackass: have you tried rebooting?10:17
anethemawish multiverse had a JRE deb in it10:17
anethemaits not 'free' libre10:17
internet1if i use resce i have image not founds also from cd10:17
tritiumanethema, easy as heck to build one with java-package10:17
anethemaoh i meant to ask you about that tritium10:17
internet1im trying to login without knowing password10:17
Lathiatinternet1: Nah you can do it as part of your normal boot process10:17
anethemai installed java-package10:17
Lathiatinternet1: reboot the computer10:17
anethemawhats the command to get it going?10:17
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Lathiatinternet1: when it first loads, it counts down from 3 to 110:18
Lathiatinternet1: at that point hit escape and a menu comes up10:18
internet1i'l try10:18
Lathiatinternet1: choose the second option which is "Ubuntu, .... (recovery)"10:18
tritiumanethema, see the docs in /usr/share/doc/java-package.  The command is make-jpkg, if I recall correctly.10:18
Lathiatinternet1: then when it loads, password username10:18
Lathiatinternet1: then reboot10:18
t35t0rTMM, http://sial.org/pbot/10058 my wpa_supplicant.conf10:18
jackasslathiat: Yes i have tryed to reboot10:19
AirWaysOh10:19
AirWaysThanks10:19
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Lathiatjackass: Weird, have you made any changes to your system?10:19
anethemaok im gonna make one10:19
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anethemawonder how to best uninstall the BIN that i used to install it10:19
TMMt35t0r: looking at it...10:19
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internet1Lathiat, i have the first menu ask me if i want to boot cd linux or macosx10:20
internet1what shoulkd i choose?10:20
internet1i remember im using yaboot not grub10:21
Lathiatinternet1: Oh you are on powerpc?10:21
Lathiatumm10:21
internet1using esc doesn't work10:21
internet1yes10:21
Lathiatim not sure if they add a recovery option10:21
Lathiatinternet1: can you edit the kernel paramters?10:21
internet1no it doesnt10:21
Lathiatinternet1: somehow?10:21
Lathiatinternet1: if so, add 's' to the end and boot with that10:21
Lathiatlilo does this by typing 'linux s', no idea on yaboot10:21
TMMt35t0r: you got all the hostap stuff installed?10:22
internet1i'll try linux s10:22
Lathiatinternet1: Sorry, when asking for help, you should state that you are using powerpc10:22
Lathiatinternet1: (didnt think to ask)10:23
t35t0rTMM, i had hostap-utils installed but its only for prism10:23
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t35t0rTMM, when i tried hostap-diag wlan0 it said it couldn't find prism chipset10:23
TMMhmmm... I guess that makes sense yeah :)10:23
TMMsorry, didn't sleep last night :)10:23
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bnc220lu all10:24
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TMMt35t0r: what version of wpa_supplicant are you running?10:24
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t35t0rTMM, 0.4.010:25
clausmehello10:25
clausmehelp pls http://pastebin.com/28233210:25
clausmei have sent the link10:25
clausmepls somone help10:25
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clausmetell ,me what to do10:26
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Lathiatclausme: hang on10:26
clausmehttp://pastebin.com/28233210:26
clausmek10:26
Lathiatclausme: install the 'libsndfile1-dev' package10:26
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clausmek10:27
Lathiatclausme: also10:27
clausmewhat10:27
Lathiatclausme: libqt3-dev10:27
clausmethat i instaled10:27
larsrohdinok, i really still suck at this irc-thing... but if i want to join "quakenet random UK server", my friend told me to join that... how do i do that?10:27
TMMt35t0r: sorry, you got me then... I dont think it's related to ndiswrapper afterall... it looks like ndiswrapper should be supported just fine by wpa_supplicant...10:27
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crimsunLathiat: libqt3-dev is actually obsoleted10:28
Lathiatcrimsun: mt-dev?10:28
TMMt35t0r: I'd try the mailing list if I where you10:28
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crimsunlibqt3-mt-dev and ..compat-headers should be used instead, and qtdir probably needs to be passed to configure10:28
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Lathiati hate qt10:28
TMMLathiat: that's a bold statement :)10:28
Lathiatgnome shit just compiles when the packages are installed.10:28
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Lathiatcrimsun: apt-get install libqt3-dev- libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-compat-headers10:29
Lathiaterghh10:29
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Lathiatclausme: run sudo apt-get install libqt3-dev- libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-compat-headers10:29
clausmek10:29
TMM[t35t0r] : I'd try the mailing list if I where you10:29
larsrohdini know how to join a channel, but how do i join a different network?10:29
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Lathiatlarsrohdin: what client?10:30
larsrohdinLathiat, x-chat10:30
Lathiatlarsrohdin: open the server list and open a new connection10:30
Lathiatlarsrohdin: select 'connect in new tab' instead of connect10:30
FackamatoI have a problem with Firefox - and forums, text within [code]  segments doesn't show, any ideas why?10:31
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Lathiatclausme: it should work then10:31
LathiatI have to goto bed10:31
[t35t0r] TMM, i will ultimately ..but first i'll try downgrading to 0.3.810:31
larsrohdinLathiat, i still come into ubuntu10:31
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jesper__I have a problem with keyboard shortcuts for xmms - is this the right place to ask about it?10:31
larsrohdinnow im here double=)10:31
Lathiatclausme: Someone else should be able to help if it still doesnt work, as I have to leave10:31
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Lathiatlarsrohdin: so select a different network :)10:31
JeTiAnyone got time (& patience) to help a newbie with some JRE problems in Firefox? :)10:32
clausmedone that10:32
clausmesame eror10:32
Gattonlarsrohdin you could just type /server servername and that should connect. assuming you know the name of the server you want10:32
Lathiatclausme: ugh.10:32
TMM[t35t0r] : sorry, good luck!10:32
larsrohdinLathiat, yeah but if i choose quakenet, i don't ge to uk random something that my friend said... i get to some other quakenet thing10:32
Lathiatlarsrohdin: should be the same thing.10:33
Gattonlarsrohdin: it probably doesn't matter. the uk random just connects you to a random uk server. any quakenet server should work10:33
Lathiatlarsrohdin: if not, x-chat->new->server tab and /server <address> where <address> is irc.quakenet.org or whatever10:33
larsrohdinok...10:33
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clausmehello10:33
clausmehelppls10:33
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clausmehelp pls http://pastebin.com/28234010:35
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clausmecan someone help me10:36
clausmehelp pls http://pastebin.com/28234010:36
resiakclausme: apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev ?10:36
clausmedonew that10:36
karillg10:36
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Burgundaviaclausme, what are you trying to compile?10:36
clausmea program10:37
clausmevyqat10:37
clausmevyqchat10:37
Burgundavianot in the repos?10:37
clausmeis a lan chat program10:37
Lathiatnah i checked10:37
clausmei thin is not in the repositoris10:37
clausmemy whole friends got it10:38
clausmei was sick and tierd10:38
clausmeof windows10:38
Burgundaviaclausme, http://www.vmpbg.com/victor/10:38
clausmeand try linux10:38
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Burgundaviaclausme, debian packages10:38
clausmewich one10:38
Burgundaviapackage for Debian gnu/linuk10:39
Burgundavialinux even10:39
BigJGSo what does everyone prefer for word processors?10:39
clausmehow do i run them10:39
clausme?10:39
LathiatBigJG: abiword, oo.o210:39
BigJGdpkg -i (filename)10:39
Burgundaviadownload it10:39
lewizBigJG: For most stuff Abiword is far better than OOo.10:39
clausmedone it10:39
Burgundavia'sudo dpkg -i blah.deb'10:39
BigJGi was thinkin bout abiword10:39
BigJGdoes it load alot faster?10:39
Lathiates10:39
Lathiatyes10:39
BurgundaviaBigJG, abiword is very nice10:39
Lathiatit loads in <1 second usually10:39
BigJGawesome thanks10:39
Lathiaton any good machine10:39
BigJGdayom nice10:40
ggrossThx for all ... i think it's a nearly good time to go to bed ;)10:40
Lathiatand is quite nice10:40
ggrossgood night all10:40
Lathiatit is time for me to goto bed10:40
Lathiatits 4:40 am10:40
Lathiatand i got uni at 1010:40
Lathiathah10:40
Seveasgoodnight10:40
Lathiatnight.10:40
BigJGis there any sort of presentation software better than OOo's?10:40
BigJGUNI? as in iowa?10:40
BurgundaviaBigJG, not really10:40
Seveasreminds me, i've gottat get out of bed in like 6 hours10:40
Seveasbetter go to sleep :_10:40
BurgundaviaBigJG, it sucks, doesn't it?10:40
tritiumBigJG: that depends on your needs.10:40
JeTiCan someone please help me? Having problems with Java Runtime and Firefox... :-/10:41
BigJGyea i was hoping it would have more support for animation10:41
tritiumBigJG: if you want great mathematics typesetting, I like latex-beamer10:41
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BigJGi dont even know what mathematics typesetting is so i probably dont need it yet :D10:41
jesper__I need help making keyboard shortcuts - can someone help me?10:41
Absenthanyone here able to give me a CLI string that will print to an LPD on a diffrent computer?10:41
tritium(prettier equations than in PowerPoint, oo.o)10:42
GattonJeTi just throw your question out there. If someone can help they will :)10:42
jesper__i'm trying to control xmms with some keyboard shortcuts10:42
AbsenthIE, I want to print to a printer connected to another workstation from the command line since neither pc has X10:42
BigJGJesper : System / Preferences / Keyboard Shortcuts10:42
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jesper__i have tried that10:42
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JeTiOk, I have installed JRE according to the Ubuntu Starter Guide (http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre) - and it seems to have installed allright...10:42
jesper__but it didn't work with xmms10:43
JeTi... but even after a restart of Firefox the plugin still does not seem to be active. What can I be missing?10:43
BigJGill check that out tritium thnx10:43
clausmeroot@clausme:/home/clausme # sudo dpkg -i vyqchat_0.2.7-2_i386.deb10:43
clausmeSelecting previously deselected package vyqchat.10:43
clausme(Reading database ... 63004 files and directories currently installed.)10:43
clausmeUnpacking vyqchat (from vyqchat_0.2.7-2_i386.deb) ...10:43
clausmeSetting up vyqchat (0.2.7-2) ...10:43
lewizIs it likely Hoary will see a kernel with an updated inotify?10:43
clausmenow what10:43
tritiumJeTi: ubuntuguide advice on jre is not the recommended approach10:43
clausme?10:43
BigJGhmm i actually wouldnt mind some hotkeys for xmms too10:43
resiakclausme: Now run vyqchat ?10:43
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tritiumclausme: please don't paste here10:43
clausmehow10:43
JeTitritium: what then? :)10:43
clausmek10:43
clausmeis easier10:43
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tritiumclausme: yes, but we've asked you politely not to do that10:44
Burgundaviaclausme, type vyqchat10:44
resiakclausme: Stop hitting enter after every line. Type "vyqchat" and hit enter.10:44
GattonJeTi: if you look in your .mozilla/plugins do you have libjavaplugin in there?10:44
tritiumJeTi: to keep it under apt's package management, building your own .deb using java-package is preferrable10:44
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JeTiI don't seem to have the plugin if I use the "about:plugins" in the Firefox address field...10:45
JeTitritium: do you have an address for a walkthrough of that?10:45
clausmeis vorking10:45
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clausmethx10:45
clausmeagain and again10:46
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tritiumJeTi, Method 3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java10:47
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BigJGtritium what desktop environment are you using?10:48
BigJGgnome?10:48
JeTitritium: thanks, I will try that. I might get back to you, though ;-)10:48
GattonJeTi: not sure. I went the manual route on sun's page. But tritium's suggestion is probably better10:48
tritiumBigJG, yes10:48
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JeTitritium, Gatton: well, I have tried many methods so far, and a "java -version" works allright from the prompt, but just no Firefox plugin. But I will try this method... let's see :-)10:49
tritiumJeTi, that's page is a tad outdated.  You shouldn't have to edit any files, and I don't believe you need java-common any longer10:49
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tritiumJeTi, basically, you can install java-package, and read its docs in /usr/share/doc/java-package10:51
mark345hi, i want to know if there is a way to eject a dvd simply by pressing the button on the drive?10:52
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mark345without having to right click on the disc icon on the desktop and say, eject10:52
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xiaogilhi10:53
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BigJGhey :)10:53
Burgundaviamark345, some drives support that, and some don't10:53
Burgundaviamark345, so, probably no10:53
mark345ok10:53
mark345thanks10:53
Fator_Deemark345: well, you could do a button that ejects the drive :-\10:54
Fator_Deeon the desktop/panel, I mean10:54
lampshadeso, I installed vim-gnome or whatever, but it doesn't show up anywhere in the menus/panels on gnome.  I can run it with /usr/bin/gvim though?  What gives??  Did apt-get choke?10:54
Fator_Deeyou'd save a one click of hassle with that :-)10:54
mark345what if i edit fstab10:54
mark345and change it from noauto to auto10:54
BigJGlampshade, i have had to reboot to get stuff to show up in the menus sometimes10:55
franklin50lampshade: You can install a menu editor: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor10:55
tritiumlampshade, no, not every app has a proper menu entry that follows freedesktop.org standards10:55
mark345install smeg10:55
mark345its a great menu editor10:55
mark345if the "other" folder does not show up10:55
mark345add it10:55
franklin50lampshade: Or sometimes, kill gnome (ctr-alt-backspace)10:55
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mark345that is a bug10:56
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shido6what do i do to recover my mouse when I watch a movie with my dvd player - or when I run vmware10:56
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shido6anytime I access my dvd to watch a movie, vlc, xine, totem my mouse dies10:56
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talmirhello :) A new ubuntu user here. Are there any tips on using this? I am not that experienced with linux :)10:57
mark345talmir what is your question10:57
franklin50talmir: there is an amazing, simple guide at http://www.ubuntuguide.org10:57
lampshadetalmir, you can install programs quickly and easily with apt-get or synaptic.10:57
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talmirapt get?10:57
talmiris that a portage system like in gentoo and freebsd?10:58
t35t0rTMM, ok so i got it to work with wpa_supplicant 0.3.8 there was something wrong with the 0.4.0 version, but now my question is ..is there anyway to specify the channel and frequency using wpa_supplicant so i can use an access point that has broadcast turned off (I was able to do this with iwconfig)10:58
lampshadeyeah.  apt-get install programname most of the time will get you a program downloaded and installed.  Something I wish I'd had known about when I started.  Kinda like those, slightly different10:58
Fator_Deetalmir: it's something like that10:58
BigJGsynaptic is a graphical frontend for apt-get which is in the System/Administration menu10:58
mark345I made some movies with adobe premiere pro in windows (avi) and they will not play in linux10:58
mark345any ideas as to what codecs i need?10:59
lampshadetalmir, If you have wireless, go back to windows unless you are prepared to fight tooth and nail.  I've only heard of a couple people being sucessful out of the box with wireless.  The rest of the time you have to work at it.10:59
mark345gstreamer plays them but very choppy sound and slow motion10:59
Fator_Deejust explore ubuntu, look through all the configurations, try every program and so on :-)10:59
BigJGthere is a windows codec package but i havent had any luck downloading it yet through synaptic10:59
lampshademark345, you have all the w32codecs then?10:59
mark345xine or vlc will not play them at all10:59
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mark345yes10:59
BigJGwhich is for mplayer10:59
talmirI'm not on wireless, everything seems to work fine10:59
talmirThanks :D Great channel. I'm gonna play with this a bit.10:59
devnullis ubuntu missing sources for the xfc dev libs ?10:59
mark345anyone know of mplayer repositories for ubuntu?11:00
BigJGyea backports hold on11:00
tritiumlampshade, wireless support is quite good11:00
BigJGi believe11:00
clausmehello11:00
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clausmewhere do i get cedega for free11:00
clausme?11:00
eruinit's payware11:00
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clausmei know11:00
clausmei whant it free11:00
BigJGyou can compile the CVS for free11:00
eruinanyone know how to copy a folder's content without any ".svn/" subfolders11:01
Gattondeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main11:01
Gattondeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main11:01
Gattondeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main11:01
clausmecvs\11:01
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clausmei can plsy counter strike on cvs11:01
mark345thanks ill try them11:01
mindsporewhen is breezy supposed to be released?11:01
BigJGwww.franksplace.org11:01
tritiumOctober11:01
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BigJGi had to use the backports as well to get mplayer to install11:01
mindsporethx tritium11:02
tritiumno problem11:02
Fator_Deelampshade: it might seem to be a hassle to get the wireless working, because people come here for wireless problems, and not to say that they have enabled their wireless networks without a problem :-)11:02
Fator_Deea trick of mind11:02
BigJGIs breezy supposed to be focusing on laptops?11:02
mindsporetritium: you wouldn't happen to know how i can load the CURL extension with apache2/php4?11:03
talmirWhy does synaptic need the cd in the drive to install packages? (gcc and nasm)11:03
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tritiummindspore, nope, sorry.11:03
scorpixBigJG: yes, laptops and bluetooth and wifi11:03
mindsporek11:03
JDahlhow do you write ISOs to a CD-ROM with Gnome buildin CD/DVD Creator? I dragged an ISO to the CD and clicked "file->write to disc", but that created a CD with a file xxx.ISO, not an image11:03
BigJGawesome11:03
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BigJGahh yes that was another question i had, What is the best CD burning software for ISO images11:04
Fator_DeeJDahl: right click on iso -> write to disk11:04
lampshadeFator_Dee, I dunno, I worked with a wireless card once and it was a pain.  I know a lot of people in my lug have problems with it.  I am not sure whose fault it is, part of me suspects it is the lack of support from companies, but I can't blame them.  Linux just doesn't have the market share yet.  I just don't see it as much as I like linux11:04
mindsporeJDah1: you should be able to right-click on the .iso and select burn from image.. or something simlar11:04
BigJGi had no problems setting up my wireless, but that was a prism chipset11:05
scorpixBigJG: i use xcdroast, but i don't think its the best :)11:05
Fator_Deelampshade: of course it's the fault of companies11:05
tritiumBigJG, there are several good ones.  graveman, gnomebaker, k3b11:05
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BigJGthanks guys11:05
JDahlthanks, that did it! then I wont install xcdroast or k3b11:06
clausmehello11:06
JeTiJDahl: do we know each other? :-)11:06
clausmewhere can i get cedega for free11:06
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Fator_Deeclausme: from cvs, or from places you have to look for yourself11:06
t35t0rclausme, its not free11:06
talmirWhy does synaptic need the cd in the drive to install packages? (gcc and nasm)11:06
Burgundaviaclausme, you can get the cvs for free11:06
t35t0rcvs is free?11:06
t35t0rhehe goodie11:06
JDahlJeTi, I actually think so!11:06
Fator_Deecvs is free11:06
clausmei can plsy counter strike on cvs11:07
clausme?11:07
Burgundaviatalmir, you can comment out the cd11:07
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Burgundaviaclausme, no idea, this is probably not the best place to ask11:07
lampshadeBigJG, mine was prism too, but it linux could not handle the encryption or something.  It would not work with encryption on.  I fought the battle for a whole month then sadly gave up.  A friend at school the other day threw in an ubuntu CD and it didn't get his wireless at all.  Cases like that.  I guess my belief is that linux is awesome server wise but shitty on desktops.11:07
JeTiJDahl: yep, your name sounds familiar to me :-) Still in Aalborg?11:07
chavoclausme, probably not11:07
JDahlJeTi, no.. California11:07
lampshadeclausme, ummm cvs?  what?  like cvs as in the source code thing?11:07
BigJGif the packages are available on the cd then it goes to that before downloading, you can go into the repository section and tell it not to use the cdrom11:07
JeTiJDahl: business or pleasure? :-)11:07
Gattonclausme: you could try this page. just did a google on it so not sure how useful it is...11:07
BigJGclauseme, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4511:07
Gattonhttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4511:07
BigJGlol11:08
Gattonoops11:08
talmirburgundavia : Ehm... Comment out?11:08
lampshadeclausme, most people play counterstrike in linux using a windows emulator called WINE.  I don't know where they are in supporting the newest stuff, but the older stuff they had support for.11:08
BigJGnice one Gat11:08
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clausmek11:08
xiaogilImagine, I am in countryside, with now internet access at all. But I have a local web server on my computer, and a few friends that want to be able to log to it. Our computers all have wifi. How can I do that with my Ubuntu ?11:08
BigJGcedega is a revamped win11:08
clausmewine is free11:08
clausme?11:08
BigJGerr wine11:08
Burgundaviatalmir, delete the cd from your sources.list, assuming you have good internet11:08
Burgundaviaclausme, cedega is fork of wine11:08
lampshadetalmir, I had to do that too, just comment it out or delete the cd line, usually the top, will say cdrom in it11:08
chavoclausme, do you want to play cs source?11:08
BigJGgrr my ecks key isnt working11:08
t35t0ri thought cedega was not free wine is free11:09
clausmenii11:09
clausmecounter strike 1.611:09
Burgundaviat35t0r, cvs is free for cedega11:09
BigJGanyone know why my (ecks) key wouldnt be working?11:09
chavoit will run under wine, source won't11:09
Burgundaviat35t0r, which doesn't include some licenced stuff11:09
talmircool, thanks11:09
BigJGbrb gonna try killing gnome11:09
clausmei saw that debian is difrent11:09
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clausmecan i get win with arp-get11:09
clausme?11:09
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mark345gatton, you know how to fix the gpg error when updating sources list in synaptic?11:10
chavoclausme, yes11:10
anethemawhat would happen if you changed the debian repos to the ubuntu ones and did a apt-get update11:10
clausmecan you give me the command pls11:10
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Gattonmark345: sorry no. i just ignore it heh. still works11:10
anethemaand apt-get dist-upgrade11:10
lampshadeclausme, yes11:10
clausmeto get wine11:10
Aladdinhi ya great masters   ;o)11:10
anethemasudo apt-get install wine11:10
clausmek11:10
Gattonmark345: i get that same error with apt-get. it asks me if i still want to install and i say yes. i assume synaptic will work the same11:10
anethemaalso should download..11:10
BurgundaviaGatton, what package11:10
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anethemasudo apt-get install libwine-alsa11:11
anethemaand11:11
BigJGoook much better11:11
mark345EVERYONE, what p2p programs do you favor?11:11
anethemasudo apt-get install winesetuptk11:11
BigJGi havent messed w/ p2p on linux yet11:11
anethemaBigJG, azureus11:11
anethemaheh11:11
GattonBurgundavia: i think i was installing mplayer. not sure. it happens when i install from that marillat repository11:11
Burgundaviamark345, bittorrent?11:11
lampshadebittorrent if you consider it p2p11:11
clausmeodc works11:11
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anethemacourse its p2p11:11
clausmedc++11:11
BurgundaviaGatton, install the version from multiverse11:11
anethemaby any defn11:11
mark345with search11:11
clausmeworks in linux11:11
clausme?11:11
BigJGhow do you search for stuff in bittorrent?11:12
mark345and linux11:12
BurgundaviaGatton, and drop marilliat for hoary-extras, part of the backports project11:12
anethemaBigJG, go to isohunt.com11:12
lampshadeI dunno I consider both p2p and client server.  Like an evil hybrid of the two11:12
anethemaand search11:12
anethemayes11:12
GattonBurgundavia: multiverse is new to me. i will have to add that to my sources list11:12
BigJGthanks anethema11:12
anethemathe tracker is the server11:12
anethemaand the client is the client11:12
anethemahaha11:12
AladdinOK. Here's for today's problem.  I installed pure-ftpd, j=hoping that it would be easier to config than proftpd (in which I just can't figure out how to configure an universal upload directory with restricted permissions)...11:12
GattonBurgundavia: it's probably in the guide right? and i haven't read all of the guide yet :)11:12
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BurgundaviaGatton, guide is evil, read www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:12
mindsporeuhmm, help... Zend Studio is telling me I don't have write permission to a folder within my home directory...11:13
GattonBurgundavia: thanks i will :)11:13
AladdinSi  now I get an error message:Unable to start a standalone server: Permission denied .11:13
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AladdinI did unsinstall proftpd11:13
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AladdinCAn anyone helP?11:13
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sbcl3_does anyone know what the /opt folder is for?11:14
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Burgundaviasbcl3_, stuff that you compile and install typically11:14
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Burgundaviasbcl3_, so it doesn't pollute /usr, etc.11:15
tritiumsbcl3_, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/11:15
lampshadeguys my desktop owns.  I just thought you should know11:15
lampshadethe wallpaper that is11:15
mark345EVERYONE, amule or xmule?11:15
sbcl3_i have to put my xampp server in /opt, so i thought that i might be able to move all my files there11:15
sbcl3_but i guess i'll just make a /sbcl311:15
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Aladdinmark345, amule11:15
AladdinOK anybody with ftp server experience. need input!11:16
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BigJGyea i would like to know some decent ftp server software as well, i used filezilla for windows11:17
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[blue] hi11:17
lampshadeAnyone know why apt-get install vim-gnome doesn't place a shortcut in your accessories or anything?  That's messed up......  I had to create my own damn launcher man :)11:17
[blue] hi all11:17
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franklin50hi blue11:17
tritiumlampshade, I explained that earlier11:17
BigJGhey blue11:17
[blue] i just installed ubuntu and is great.11:18
hybrid_gothhello all11:18
BigJGyea i love it too blue11:18
franklin50blue: I completely agree11:18
[blue] but, i have a question.11:18
talmirj cpp11:18
talmirwhoops11:18
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lampshadetritium, really?  I must have /cleared or something.  Why?? I'm at your mercy11:18
talmir:P11:18
[blue] how do i enable my webcam11:18
pervIs here anyone from poland?;)11:18
[blue] ?11:18
hybrid_goth[blue] : welcome11:18
BigJGmmm havent messed w/ webcams yet11:18
AladdinPING:     OK ANYBODY WITH FTP SERVER EXPERIENCE!11:18
[mac] olsenyeah i just installed ubuntu on an old ibook, runs great :)11:18
clausmehow doi enable 5.1 in  ubuntu11:18
hybrid_goth[blue] : what kinda cam11:18
clausme?11:18
franklin50how old an ibook?11:18
tritiumAladdin, please, don't yell11:18
[mac] olsenone of the first11:18
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[mac] olsenTangerine11:18
BigJGyea i was wondering about 5.1 for xmms playback as well11:19
[mac] olsen300 MHZ G311:19
hybrid_goth[mac] olsen: nice i have had it since wartu11:19
franklin50oooh, the ol clamshell!11:19
clausme5.111:19
chavoAladdin, make sure your ftp server config is not in CAPS11:19
franklin50[mac] olsen: does wireless work ok?11:19
clausmei canot play 5.111:19
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hybrid_gothfranklin50: cant be too old old worlds r not supported11:19
chavoI think your caps lock is sticking11:19
Aladdinchavo,  huh?11:19
[mac] olsenyepp clamshell11:19
Aladdinchavo,  huh?  oh... ok :o(11:19
hybrid_gothwhat color11:19
tritiumlampshade, not all of the apps have menu entries that are compliant with freedesktop.org standards, which gnome 2.10 uses11:20
[mac] olsentangerine (orange)11:20
chavosorry Aladdin , just being sarcastic.11:20
lampshadetritium, ?  am I running gnome 2.10?11:20
franklin50[mac] olsen: nice, do you have wireless?11:20
tritiumlamont, are you running hoary?11:20
hybrid_gothi got a g3 dual usb11:20
lampshadetritium, I thought the ubuntu default was 2.8?11:20
[mac] olsennot directly, got another 700 MHZ g3 iBook with AirPort11:20
tritiumsorry, lampshade ^^^11:20
Aladdinchavo, yeah well I'm sorry... Can u assist me. This is an issue to me... :o|11:20
lampshadetritium, I honestly don't know which I'm running I always assumed 2.8 but haven't actually checked or anything11:21
chavoAladdin, sorry, I've never set up an FTP server.11:21
clausme5.1 promlem there is anyoane ele with this problem11:21
clausmehelp me solve it11:21
tritiumlampshade, check System->About Gnome11:21
lampshadeshit I am running 1011:21
lampshadewow11:21
Aladdinchavo, ok thx anyway :)11:21
lampshadehahaha  alright then11:21
[mac] olsencurrently i am online iBook300 -> ibook700(oSX) -> AirPort -> RedHat9Box -> DSL11:21
chavowell I did for a little while, but it worked out of the box11:21
BigJGdid you say you allready tried proftpd aladdin?11:22
chavothat was on my laptop running Mandrake, proftpd11:22
franklin50[mac] olsen: excellent!  I'll have to chuck ubuntu on the ol' blue clammy in the closet.11:22
AladdinOK anybody with ftp server experience. I need help on either proftpd ou pere-ftpd configs.11:22
AladdinOK anybody with ftp server experience. I need help on either proftpd ou pure-ftpd configs.11:22
BigJGhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9181.html11:22
Aladdinsorry... misspelled11:22
AladdinBigJG, that's for me?11:23
lamonttritium: I think so. :-)11:23
BigJGyea that shows an argument between pure-ftp and proftpd i havent read it all yet11:23
tritiumlamont, sorry, that was meant for lampshade ;)11:23
lamontlampshade: hoary == gnome 2.10, warty== gnome 2.811:23
lamontheh11:24
AladdinBigJG, ah! ok.. I'll read it sometime. Do you have any experience in runnong an ftp server?11:24
BigJGonly in windows11:24
BigJGnot in linux yet  :(11:24
BigJGbut thats high priority on my ubuntu list11:24
[blue] anyone here has a webcam workink on ubuntu ?11:25
[mac] olsencya11:25
AladdinBigJG, ok.  me too....   wanted tu run an efficient quotad, virtual user's, ftp... but guess nobody realy does that nowadays  :o(11:25
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Aladdinon Ubuntu anyway11:25
BigJGyea thats exactly what i had w/ filezilla11:26
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Aladdinfilezilla?11:26
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BigJGim going to be trying the proftpd w/ the webmin package as wel11:26
Aladdindodes it work?11:26
Aladdindoes it work?11:26
BigJGyea its an ftp server for windows i dont think there is a linux port11:26
clausme5.1 sound problem anyoane knows how to solve it ?11:26
Aladdinoh sorry yeah I remember...11:26
GattonAFKlampshade: did you share a pic of your desktop or did i miss that?11:27
devnullis there a way to get the xfc through ubuntu ?11:27
goldfishxfce?11:27
goldfishhmmm.. nm.11:27
BigJGdid you mean xfce devnull ?11:27
munkidevnull apt-get install xfce411:27
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devnulli need the foundation classes11:28
devnullparticularly libxfcui11:28
AladdinBigJG, I've been trying to setup something like this since i've benn on Linux, almost did it with proftpd, but there's still a couple of hacks I gotta go trought ... :o/11:28
devnulli have xfce4 installed already aswell as all dev libs11:28
devnulli am building xfc from source now, but wondering if there was a package out there some where11:28
BigJGyou having problems w/ the virtual user permissions aladdin?11:28
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dead^^hi. how can i install programs on my Linux? i'm just noob who's just startin' with Ubuntu =)11:29
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AladdinBigJG, I got a proftpd.conf file that works ...   That is if u want an upload directory that is writable by all!  Menaing anybody can erase a file already uploaded...11:29
franklin50dead^^: Synaptic is your thing - it is a front end for apt-get, a package manager.11:29
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holycowdead^^, system / admin / synaptic11:30
BigJGdoes proftpd support virtual users?11:30
franklin50dead^^: check out http://www.ubuntuguide.org - it is so simple.11:30
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sobersabreskype problem here: the other party's replicating voice, "delay" effect, resonating one... what to do ?11:30
franklin50sobersabre: headphones11:30
dead^^thanks11:30
sobersabrei use headphones.11:31
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BigJGlol yea probably picking up the speakers from the mic11:31
AladdinBigJG, <you having problems w/ the virtual user permissions aladdin?> shit yeah!11:31
BigJGsometimes its on the other end too11:31
franklin50sobersabre: is it your voice coming back?11:31
holycowdead^^, come back in 20 years when you have actually managed to try all the software11:31
holycow:)11:31
sobersabrenomasteryoda, it is the other party's they use headphones too.11:31
BigJGok i am waiting for the packages to install then ill see if i cant have any luck w/ it aladdin11:31
AladdinBigJG, please include my nick in your messages.. I got difficulty to follow u11:32
franklin50sobersabre: stink.  those were my magic ideas.11:32
BigJGok11:32
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shadeofgreyokay i need help11:32
franklin50shadeofgrey: what's up?11:32
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AladdinBigJG, normally u just have to type the first few letters of my nick and then <TAB>11:32
BigJGAladdin: ooh nice11:33
shadeofgreyif a program run through a terminal window says that its going to install to a directory called ~/EditPadPro -- where does that mean it put the files11:33
AladdinBigJG, ok thx bg11:33
BigJGAladdin: was that a whisper?11:33
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sbcl3_if I make a folder rwxrwxrwx, will all folders made in it after that point be rwxrwxrwx as well?11:33
franklin50shadeofgrey: the tilde "~" refers to your home directory, so check in /home/you/Edit..11:33
goldfishdont think so11:33
AladdinBigJG, dunno but it works!11:34
BigJGAladdin: ok hehe11:34
sbcl3_goldfish: was that for my question?11:34
shadeofgreyokay where is a better place to put apps for ubuntu?11:34
goldfishsbcl3_: yep11:34
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sbcl3_crap :(11:34
goldfishsbcl3_: do you want it to be?11:34
sbcl3_yes11:35
dead^^holycow: hey, i bet that you weren't so good with Linux on your first week =P11:35
shadeofgreyokay where is a better place to put apps for ubuntu?11:35
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franklin50shadeofgrey: well, I'd first make sure that the software you want is in Synaptic (or apt-get if you like terminal stuff)11:35
sbcl3_i did "chmod 777 /directory -R11:35
sbcl3_should that work then?11:35
[blue] anyone knows how to enable an usb webcam on ubuntu?11:35
goldfishsbcl3_: well that will do it for everything in the directory.11:35
shadeofgreyfranklin:  no its not.  its commercial software i bought.  i installed it before on my last ubuntu workstation and it worked fine11:35
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goldfishsbcl3_: but if u make a new directory after the chmod, it wont have the permissions of the others.11:36
AladdinBigJG, using Ubuntu's X-Caht anythiing u type to mw will be red now.. :)dunno but it works!11:36
AladdinBigJG, oops11:36
franklin50shadeofgrey: hmm.. where does the company suggest installing it?11:36
shadeofgreythey dont11:36
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shadeofgreyit doesnt matter11:36
Abysmalevening all.. I have a hardware question that is making me pull my hair out..I have a symbios uw-scsi card 53c875.. and I cant get the damn thing to boot after the harddrive  install..11:36
BigJGAladdin: i am using the gaim port of irc, i wonder if it works w/ that11:36
clausmehow do plsy a game with wine11:36
clausme?11:36
shadeofgreyi just want to know....  typically - wheres a great place to install stuff that you download yourself?11:37
franklin50shadeofgrey: well, in your home directory is a fine place.11:37
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sbcl3_goldfish: any way around that?11:37
shadeofgreyno.  i use home for storage of files like docs and such.  where are programs like openoffice and sucvh installed?11:37
AladdinBigJG, does11:37
FlyingSquirrel32Where's that site with directions on creating packages11:37
goldfishsbcl3_: yea hold on11:38
shadeofgreyFlying:  www.ubuntuguide.org11:38
Burgundaviashadeofgrey, the rest of the filesystem should only be used for stuff you install out of synaptic11:38
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Dreamer3ok11:38
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Dreamer3i have an ibm thinkpad t22, can anyone point me in the right direction to get the hardware winish-modem working?11:38
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goldfishsbcl3_: man uname11:40
goldfishsbcl3_: i dont know if u can do it for a particular directory though11:40
Abysmalanyone have any ideas??11:40
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FlyingSquirrel32shadeofgrey, ubuntuguide is great, but I don't think it show how to make a .deb from source code11:40
goldfishsbcl3_: chmod -R is prolly the best thing to do.11:40
FlyingSquirrel32there's another guide that called something like packager's guide or something like that.11:41
pinSif i have firefox 1.0.2 shouldnt package manager have offered to install the latest update? 1.0.411:41
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Dreamer3pinS: no, hoary is frozen11:41
Dreamer3pinS: only security update11:41
pinSfrozen?11:41
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Dreamer3pinS: yes, the versions of software will not change, only security updates will cause "upgrades"11:42
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todd_word11:44
mindsporeI think I installed Zend as root, and is causing problems... is there any way I can change all the ownerships for zend files easily?11:44
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Dreamer3i have an ibm thinkpad t22, can anyone point me in the right direction to get the hardware winish-modem working?11:44
Dreamer3does ubuntu have an ltmodem packages?11:45
todd_i just installed hoary and most things are gravy. Went all through the ubuntuguide.org page and got stuff installed and happy. For some reason though, I can't seem to install extensions for firefox....when I click on the install link, it asks me to save it to disk, as though it doesn't even recognize the file type....what gives?11:45
FARHi all11:46
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FARDreamer3:  I've got a T41 and ltmodem did it for me on MEPIS, however I haven't found a package for it in the Ubuntu repositories11:46
dead^^I'm sorry. I meant, how can I install already downloaded programs, for example DGuitar 0.4.2 which I downloaded from it's official site... my native language isn't English and I'm not so familiar with the terms on Linux =P11:47
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[blue] i have a webcam. how do i see if it is working? xawtv does not rekognise it, but it seems that the kernel module is loaded11:47
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FARtodd_: there was something wrong with update.mozilla.org site a few days ago11:47
Gattondead^^: what kind of file? is it a .deb? .tgz?11:48
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FARtodd_: the specifically instructed users to save the extensions to your local disk, then from inside firefox go to File -> Open File  and select the extension u saved earlier11:48
Dreamer3FAR: it's in restricted-modules11:48
Dreamer3i'm downloading it now11:48
Dreamer3we'll have to see how easy it actually is to make it work though :)11:49
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dead^^Gatton: well, I got here few .deb files11:49
Gattondead^^: you can use  dpkg -i filename.deb  to install it11:49
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dead^^Gatton: ...and it finds it's way to where it belongs, right?11:50
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psychonateWhat permissions should I put on a directory if I want it to be a mount for a drive, so that my user can have full acces to it?11:50
Jimmothyi'm having a problem. i have BMP and it refuses to be killed in the process manager. it's listed as beep-media-play but has no path.11:50
psychonatemount point*11:50
kent[blue] , if you know how to handle a terminal, check if the device /dev/video is there.. (or something like that, perhaps v4*)  And i think xawtv can be run with "xawtv -scan" or something, which will tell you about devies. Check the manual for it, if you know how to do that..11:50
Gattondead^^: depends on the program. some will add themselves to your menu auto but some won't11:50
FARDreamer3: which repository is this ? I've got "deb http://www.artfiles.org/ubuntu.com/archive hoary main restricted" but i can't find it11:50
dead^^Gatton: Ok. Got it. I'll bow thee, thank you =)11:51
AladdinBigJG  ,   so?11:51
flodinelittle hel11:51
Gattonnp dead^^ . i'm a newbie too so i hope it works :)11:51
flodinehelp11:51
dead^^Gatton: =)11:51
BigJGAladdin: this is all new to me its going to be a while :P11:51
Jimmothyany help?11:51
Dreamer3FAR: linux-restricted-modules, i'm not sure what rep it's in11:51
AladdinOK anybody with ftp server experience. I need help on either proftpd ou pure-ftpd configs.11:52
flodineive loaded ubuntu 3 time and fluxbox wont load all the menu stuff why?11:52
AladdinBigJG, believe me it is!11:52
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flodineanyone11:52
FARDreamer3: oh ok, it's part of that package got it, thanks !11:53
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flodineno one can help11:54
Dreamer3FAR: is it as simple as modprobing the module and then wvdial -config?11:54
Dreamer3will it be autodeteced as some common device?11:54
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FARDreamer3: doesn't look that way so far :(11:56
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BigJGAladdin: ok well i just got webmin running and that allows me to edit the configuration for proftpd through a web page, i havent started trying anyhting on it yet though11:56
flodinegod dog why dont unbuntu load wm like other linuxes11:56
sbcl3_does anyone know where the graphical greeter themes from login setup are kept?11:56
miconhey, cant someone help me? im trying to install ubuntu, however im getting an error saying DSDT .... initrd  not found11:56
Dreamer3FAR: hmmm, oh well11:57
[blue] kent: i have only video1394 :(11:57
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DaBladeHello11:57
miconanyone know how to solve this?11:57
DaBladeis there a way to force apt/synaptic to install certain packages?11:57
DaBladeI'm way passed the level of being pissed because of an uninstallable package that I need11:57
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miconAnyone know where i can find resources on why i am missing DSDT initrd?11:58
miconor what i need to do11:58
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DaBladeI'm trying constantly to fill the dependencies of hat app, but it just REFUSES to instal11:58
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DaBladeIs there a way to force it nto the system?11:58
flodineanyone using fluxbox now11:58
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lampshadeflodine, I was, am not now11:59
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miconcan anyone please help me?11:59
DaBladehello? anyone?11:59
cafuegobueller?11:59
[blue] kent: how do i add an entry to the /dev ?12:00

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