| allee | amu: as PPC developer: are you aware of any debian/rules hack to pass -DWORDS_BIGENDIAN to g++? | 12:04 |
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| allee | amn: background, digikam 0.7.2 backport of kde svn : svn diff -u 411787:411788 without bloating the diff with the hole configure and Makefile.in stuff | 12:06 |
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| JRe | lo | 09:35 |
| KaiL | morning | 09:35 |
| haggai | moin | 09:39 |
| JRe | anyone have try kcheckgmail? | 09:39 |
| haggai | allee: there is a technique often used to implement things like DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug in debian/rules. Is the packaging cdbs based? | 09:41 |
| allee | hi all | 10:38 |
| allee | haggai: yes digikam cdbs based. AFAIR 'debug' stuff uses configure --enable-debug(=full). Nevertheless I'll check cdbs rules files. Thx. | 10:40 |
| haggai | allee: in that case you can set CXXFLAGS | 10:49 |
| allee | haggai: thx I'll try tonight | 10:50 |
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| JRe | allee: Okay i have rebuild katapult with ehanced changelog, copyrith, less deps and cdbs thanks to your advices | 12:12 |
| allee | JRe: quick look (2 min until lunch) | 12:13 |
| JRe | better do this after lunch ;) good appetite! | 12:14 |
| allee | JRe: yeah, look like I looked at the yesterdays diff. Later ;) | 12:15 |
| JRe | okay everything uploaded: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/wikini/wakka.php?wiki=KubuntU, no lintian errors | 12:27 |
| JRe | i want to add a page KubuntuPackagingGuide, which is the best place to put the link in the wiki? | 12:42 |
| Riddell | JRe: from Kubuntu | 12:42 |
| JRe | Riddell: okay | 12:43 |
| JRe | allee: packages are ready, take a look to KubuntuPackagingGuide when you have time | 02:26 |
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| allee | JRe: copyright file: the copyright: section is really licsense: one. For copyright: section grep -i copyright at least all files. kdesdk has a lisensecheck tool that will tell you if everything is 'really' GPL | 04:07 |
| jre_ | ??? | 04:08 |
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| allee | JRe: diff contains a unnecessary katapult.1 file. Why wasn't it done by the clean/katapult in rules?? (a check with diffstat uncoveres such problems) | 04:13 |
| allee | JRe: you write Copyright: | 04:14 |
| allee | and then software is GPL | 04:14 |
| allee | GPL is the license not the copyright. | 04:14 |
| allee | JRe: control Matter of taste of course: both, short and long description could be a bit longer | 04:17 |
| allee | JRe: control: you specify the tar file instead of the homepage in long desc | 04:18 |
| JRe | okay!!!!!!!! | 04:20 |
| JRe | allee: understands now | 04:20 |
| JRe | allee: can i tell all the software copryght the author, 2005 ? | 04:21 |
| allee | JRe: Recommends/Suggests: have you tought about what pkgs katapult may needs to be useful | 04:21 |
| JRe | allee: yeah none | 04:21 |
| JRe | allee: you mean that the clean/katapult rules does not worlk? | 04:23 |
| allee | JRe: AFAIU 'all the software' is fine, but it's a good idea to use a copy of the copyright notice from the source file | 04:23 |
| allee | JRe: yes, because the katapult.1 is in the diff. clean target is execute before the diff is generated. | 04:23 |
| JRe | allee: okay i make the changes ;) but the package was better thaht yesterday no? | 04:27 |
| allee | JRe: of course!!!!! | 04:27 |
| allee | JRe: If I had not like your work right from the beginning I would not have spend any time with it. | 04:29 |
| JRe | allee: thanks ;) i have learned many things with your advices! | 04:30 |
| allee | JRe: all the stuff is final polishing. I've seen quite some pkgs from official debian maintainer that weren't as polished as yours ;) | 04:31 |
| Riddell | polishing it is what packages are all about, we polish so the users don't have to | 04:31 |
| JRe | allee: ;)! But thanks too you all the packages i'll do next we'll be polished like this one | 04:32 |
| allee | Riddell: If katapult.1 is in the diff or not is something the user does not care ;) But you are right we have to do your best to serve the needs of the users | 04:34 |
| allee | Riddell: and last but not least: you do really a great job for the users!!!!!!! | 04:36 |
| Riddell | allee: well you've been doing a good job this last day, I'm sure I could learn some packaging techniques off you | 04:39 |
| Riddell | allee: going to become MOTU? | 04:40 |
| allee | Guess why I was lurking at the CC yesterday ;). My main problem is free time and that have to learn lot about (k)ubuntu. | 04:42 |
| Riddell | allee: are there any packages of yours we should review? | 04:42 |
| allee | Riddell: and one of the standard questions: what have you done already for ubuntu. I realized that I had not much to offer for an application | 04:42 |
| Riddell | find something to package? | 04:44 |
| allee | last time I checked my debian pkgs were uptodate. | 04:44 |
| allee | in ubuntu that is | 04:44 |
| allee | pkg new stuff is not that pressing for me. Kubuntu has the stuff I need. My (would like to plans) shift to better integration and interoperation of pkgs ... | 04:46 |
| allee | e.g. autostart of digikam when camera is pluged in. GUI support for networking at different locations etc | 04:47 |
| allee | I've noted some udu pages during the last UDU irc meetings 2 days ago. When time permits I'll try to help here and there. | 04:49 |
| Riddell | yep | 04:53 |
| Riddell | both good goals | 04:53 |
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| JRe | anyone is developping a kde-volume-manager? | 05:07 |
| JRe | allee: victory the katapult.1 has disappear! | 05:10 |
| JRe | :) | 05:11 |
| Riddell | JRe: well the media:/ ioslave is there, what's missing is a kded module to do something useful when devices are plugged in | 05:12 |
| Riddell | I think the guy was developing that but I need to check back with him | 05:12 |
| allee | JRe: yeah! | 05:13 |
| allee | Riddell: you mean enrico? | 05:14 |
| Riddell | that sounds like the ddue | 05:14 |
| Riddell | dude | 05:14 |
| JRe | Riddell: okay! it would be a great feature for the users i think! | 05:15 |
| allee | yeah, but maybe ervin, not sure. Ervin in right now in #kalyxo, hint ;) | 05:15 |
| Riddell | ervin does the non-hal stuff in media:/ he doesn't like hal | 05:17 |
| allee | ah | 05:18 |
| allee | JRe: packaging guide. Good work. | 05:18 |
| JRe | allee: cat .kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/freenode_#kubuntu-devel.log | grep allee > Usefull_Tips | 05:19 |
| allee | Some pointers I miss are: debian-mentors web site and mailing list. | 05:19 |
| JRe | allee: yeah right i am going to add a section about the copyrights too ;) | 05:20 |
| allee | JRe: :) | 05:20 |
| allee | JRe: Kalyxo also add a nice half page long intro. Assumed a 'standard' KDE applications. So these 5 steps and you get a deb. | 05:21 |
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| Riddell | kalyxo still don't have dns | 05:22 |
| allee | Riddell: mornfall hosts a copy somewhere ... | 05:22 |
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| JRe | yeah a kalyxo can bu very useful :) | 05:28 |
| JRe | guide | 05:28 |
| JRe | okay goodbye everyone! | 06:28 |
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| hussam | hey I switched to breezy two days ago | 06:31 |
| hussam | today I did apt-get | 06:31 |
| hussam | there | 06:31 |
| hussam | there's a new dbus packae | 06:31 |
| hussam | *package | 06:31 |
| hussam | but to install it, syanptic says it has to remove kdebase, what should I do? | 06:32 |
| hussam | anybody here? | 06:32 |
| Riddell | hussam: probably not much you can do until we upload a new kdebase | 06:33 |
| Riddell | which will be either when the g++ transition happens or kde 3.4.1 | 06:33 |
| hussam | Riddell: but kde 3.4.1 isn't anytime soon | 06:34 |
| hussam | is it? | 06:34 |
| Riddell | about 3 weeks | 06:34 |
| amu | The following packages have been kept back: | 06:36 |
| amu | dbus-1-utils hal hal-device-manager pmount python2.4-dbus | 06:36 |
| amu | hussam: so i sould not upgrade my breezy | 06:37 |
| hussam | amu: i'm getting: | 06:37 |
| hussam | amu: dbus-1-utils hal libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common pmount python2.4-dbus | 06:37 |
| hussam | kept back | 06:37 |
| hussam | but all of which can be installed if I remove kdebase | 06:38 |
| hussam | which I'm not going to | 06:38 |
| amu | understandable ;) | 06:39 |
| hussam | amu: but Riddell says they will upgrade kdebase in 3 weeks to work again | 06:40 |
| hussam | well, I guess I'll have to wait | 06:40 |
| hussam | brb | 06:41 |
| hunger | So we have to live with held back packages for the next couple of weeks? | 06:54 |
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| amu | hussam: sounds nice ;) | 06:55 |
| Riddell | hunger: depends when the g++ transition happens | 06:55 |
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| hunger | Riddell: Ah. Well, it makes sense to wait for that. | 06:55 |
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| hussam | amu: I just asked in #kde and they say kde 3.4.1 will be tagged on the 23 and released a week after | 06:56 |
| amu | hussam: great ;) | 06:57 |
| hunger | Any highlights in 3.4.1 or is it just bugfixes? | 06:59 |
| hunger | Sounds like the latter, but you never know... | 06:59 |
| hussam | Riddell: is there anyway I can rebuild this new dbus so that I don't have to remove kdebase? | 07:01 |
| Riddell | hussam: you could rebuild kdebase | 07:02 |
| hussam | I'm very familiar with rebuilding rpms but this is the first time I use a debian based distro | 07:04 |
| Riddell | apt-get source kdebase && cd kdebase-3.4.0 ** debuild | 07:04 |
| hunger | hussam: apt-get source kdebase to grab the source, dpkg-build* to rebuild. | 07:04 |
| uniq | rebuilding is pretty easy.. 'apt-get source -b package' | 07:04 |
| Riddell | apt-get source kdebase && cd kdebase-3.4.0 && debuild | 07:04 |
| Riddell | or like uniq says | 07:04 |
| hunger | hussam: Very easy... | 07:04 |
| hussam | so I install dbus and remove kdebase | 07:07 |
| hussam | than build kdebase and install it | 07:07 |
| hussam | ? | 07:07 |
| uniq | yes. | 07:08 |
| hussam | ok thanks | 07:09 |
| hussam | I'll do that tonight | 07:09 |
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| hussam | one last question, will rebuilding automatically fix the dependency issue or do I have to edit some spec file before I rebuild? | 07:25 |
| Riddell | should fix it automatically | 07:26 |
| Riddell | hussam: check debian/control for dbus version though | 07:27 |
| Riddell | allee: we've had a request to package knoda...just incase you were looking for something :) | 07:28 |
| allee | Riddell: lastest knoda is in sid/sarge. Shouldn't be hard to 'port' (exercise to the reader) ... | 07:30 |
| Riddell | hmm, should auto import then | 07:30 |
| Riddell | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/knoda/ by golly it's there | 07:31 |
| allee | Riddell: seriously I only started knoda once 3 days ago to look at it. Pkg is easy, but who 'maintains' it? I've no experience with this tool. | 07:31 |
| Riddell | ah wait, doesn't look like it's compiled | 07:31 |
| Riddell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/knoda/0.7-1/ miserable failure | 07:32 |
| allee | Hmm, 0.7-1? Last is 0.7.3-1 in debian | 07:33 |
| allee | Does autoimport stop after one version fails to build? | 07:33 |
| Riddell | not sure | 07:33 |
| KaiL | and can only work better ;) | 07:33 |
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