[12:04] amu: as PPC developer: are you aware of any debian/rules hack to pass -DWORDS_BIGENDIAN to g++? [12:06] amn: background, digikam 0.7.2 backport of kde svn : svn diff -u 411787:411788 without bloating the diff with the hole configure and Makefile.in stuff === elmo_ [~james@83-216-141-215.jamest298.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [KaiL@p548F5C7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.15.67.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [~hunger@p54A63B05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F6E7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [KaiL@p548F324F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F3A1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL|Sheep [KaiL@p548F68B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:35] lo [09:35] morning [09:39] moin [09:39] anyone have try kcheckgmail? [09:41] allee: there is a technique often used to implement things like DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug in debian/rules. Is the packaging cdbs based? [10:38] hi all [10:40] haggai: yes digikam cdbs based. AFAIR 'debug' stuff uses configure --enable-debug(=full). Nevertheless I'll check cdbs rules files. Thx. [10:49] allee: in that case you can set CXXFLAGS [10:50] haggai: thx I'll try tonight === elmo [~james@83-216-141-215.jamest298.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:12] allee: Okay i have rebuild katapult with ehanced changelog, copyrith, less deps and cdbs thanks to your advices [12:13] JRe: quick look (2 min until lunch) [12:14] better do this after lunch ;) good appetite! [12:15] JRe: yeah, look like I looked at the yesterdays diff. Later ;) [12:27] okay everything uploaded: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/wikini/wakka.php?wiki=KubuntU, no lintian errors [12:42] i want to add a page KubuntuPackagingGuide, which is the best place to put the link in the wiki? [12:42] JRe: from Kubuntu [12:43] Riddell: okay [02:26] allee: packages are ready, take a look to KubuntuPackagingGuide when you have time === JRee [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jre_ [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:07] JRe: copyright file: the copyright: section is really licsense: one. For copyright: section grep -i copyright at least all files. kdesdk has a lisensecheck tool that will tell you if everything is 'really' GPL [04:08] ??? === jre_ is now known as JRe [04:13] JRe: diff contains a unnecessary katapult.1 file. Why wasn't it done by the clean/katapult in rules?? (a check with diffstat uncoveres such problems) [04:14] JRe: you write Copyright: [04:14] and then software is GPL [04:14] GPL is the license not the copyright. [04:17] JRe: control Matter of taste of course: both, short and long description could be a bit longer [04:18] JRe: control: you specify the tar file instead of the homepage in long desc [04:20] okay!!!!!!!! [04:20] allee: understands now [04:21] allee: can i tell all the software copryght the author, 2005 ? [04:21] JRe: Recommends/Suggests: have you tought about what pkgs katapult may needs to be useful [04:21] allee: yeah none [04:23] allee: you mean that the clean/katapult rules does not worlk? [04:23] JRe: AFAIU 'all the software' is fine, but it's a good idea to use a copy of the copyright notice from the source file [04:23] JRe: yes, because the katapult.1 is in the diff. clean target is execute before the diff is generated. [04:27] allee: okay i make the changes ;) but the package was better thaht yesterday no? [04:27] JRe: of course!!!!! [04:29] JRe: If I had not like your work right from the beginning I would not have spend any time with it. [04:30] allee: thanks ;) i have learned many things with your advices! [04:31] JRe: all the stuff is final polishing. I've seen quite some pkgs from official debian maintainer that weren't as polished as yours ;) [04:31] polishing it is what packages are all about, we polish so the users don't have to [04:32] allee: ;)! But thanks too you all the packages i'll do next we'll be polished like this one [04:34] Riddell: If katapult.1 is in the diff or not is something the user does not care ;) But you are right we have to do your best to serve the needs of the users [04:36] Riddell: and last but not least: you do really a great job for the users!!!!!!! [04:39] allee: well you've been doing a good job this last day, I'm sure I could learn some packaging techniques off you [04:40] allee: going to become MOTU? [04:42] Guess why I was lurking at the CC yesterday ;). My main problem is free time and that have to learn lot about (k)ubuntu. [04:42] allee: are there any packages of yours we should review? [04:42] Riddell: and one of the standard questions: what have you done already for ubuntu. I realized that I had not much to offer for an application [04:44] find something to package? [04:44] last time I checked my debian pkgs were uptodate. [04:44] in ubuntu that is [04:46] pkg new stuff is not that pressing for me. Kubuntu has the stuff I need. My (would like to plans) shift to better integration and interoperation of pkgs ... [04:47] e.g. autostart of digikam when camera is pluged in. GUI support for networking at different locations etc [04:49] I've noted some udu pages during the last UDU irc meetings 2 days ago. When time permits I'll try to help here and there. [04:53] yep [04:53] both good goals === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:07] anyone is developping a kde-volume-manager? [05:10] allee: victory the katapult.1 has disappear! [05:11] :) [05:12] JRe: well the media:/ ioslave is there, what's missing is a kded module to do something useful when devices are plugged in [05:12] I think the guy was developing that but I need to check back with him [05:13] JRe: yeah! [05:14] Riddell: you mean enrico? [05:14] that sounds like the ddue [05:14] dude [05:15] Riddell: okay! it would be a great feature for the users i think! [05:15] yeah, but maybe ervin, not sure. Ervin in right now in #kalyxo, hint ;) [05:17] ervin does the non-hal stuff in media:/ he doesn't like hal [05:18] ah [05:18] JRe: packaging guide. Good work. [05:19] allee: cat .kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/freenode_#kubuntu-devel.log | grep allee > Usefull_Tips [05:19] Some pointers I miss are: debian-mentors web site and mailing list. [05:20] allee: yeah right i am going to add a section about the copyrights too ;) [05:20] JRe: :) [05:21] JRe: Kalyxo also add a nice half page long intro. Assumed a 'standard' KDE applications. So these 5 steps and you get a deb. === allee tries to find the URL [05:22] kalyxo still don't have dns [05:22] Riddell: mornfall hosts a copy somewhere ... === allee ponders to install katapult to search his book marks [05:28] yeah a kalyxo can bu very useful :) [05:28] guide [06:28] okay goodbye everyone! === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:31] hey I switched to breezy two days ago [06:31] today I did apt-get [06:31] there [06:31] there's a new dbus packae [06:31] *package [06:32] but to install it, syanptic says it has to remove kdebase, what should I do? [06:32] anybody here? [06:33] hussam: probably not much you can do until we upload a new kdebase [06:33] which will be either when the g++ transition happens or kde 3.4.1 [06:34] Riddell: but kde 3.4.1 isn't anytime soon [06:34] is it? [06:34] about 3 weeks [06:36] The following packages have been kept back: [06:36] dbus-1-utils hal hal-device-manager pmount python2.4-dbus [06:37] hussam: so i sould not upgrade my breezy [06:37] amu: i'm getting: [06:37] amu: dbus-1-utils hal libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common pmount python2.4-dbus [06:37] kept back [06:38] but all of which can be installed if I remove kdebase [06:38] which I'm not going to [06:39] understandable ;) [06:40] amu: but Riddell says they will upgrade kdebase in 3 weeks to work again [06:40] well, I guess I'll have to wait [06:41] brb [06:54] So we have to live with held back packages for the next couple of weeks? === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:55] hussam: sounds nice ;) [06:55] hunger: depends when the g++ transition happens === hunger sighs. I hate not being able to be cutting edge:-) [06:55] Riddell: Ah. Well, it makes sense to wait for that. === hunger grumbles. [06:56] amu: I just asked in #kde and they say kde 3.4.1 will be tagged on the 23 and released a week after [06:57] hussam: great ;) [06:59] Any highlights in 3.4.1 or is it just bugfixes? [06:59] Sounds like the latter, but you never know... [07:01] Riddell: is there anyway I can rebuild this new dbus so that I don't have to remove kdebase? [07:02] hussam: you could rebuild kdebase [07:04] I'm very familiar with rebuilding rpms but this is the first time I use a debian based distro [07:04] apt-get source kdebase && cd kdebase-3.4.0 ** debuild [07:04] hussam: apt-get source kdebase to grab the source, dpkg-build* to rebuild. [07:04] rebuilding is pretty easy.. 'apt-get source -b package' [07:04] apt-get source kdebase && cd kdebase-3.4.0 && debuild [07:04] or like uniq says [07:04] hussam: Very easy... [07:07] so I install dbus and remove kdebase [07:07] than build kdebase and install it [07:07] ? [07:08] yes. [07:09] ok thanks [07:09] I'll do that tonight === hunger wonders whether hussam could upload his new deb... === hussam [~Hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:25] one last question, will rebuilding automatically fix the dependency issue or do I have to edit some spec file before I rebuild? [07:26] should fix it automatically [07:27] hussam: check debian/control for dbus version though [07:28] allee: we've had a request to package knoda...just incase you were looking for something :) [07:30] Riddell: lastest knoda is in sid/sarge. Shouldn't be hard to 'port' (exercise to the reader) ... [07:30] hmm, should auto import then [07:31] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/knoda/ by golly it's there [07:31] Riddell: seriously I only started knoda once 3 days ago to look at it. Pkg is easy, but who 'maintains' it? I've no experience with this tool. [07:31] ah wait, doesn't look like it's compiled [07:32] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/knoda/0.7-1/ miserable failure [07:33] Hmm, 0.7-1? Last is 0.7.3-1 in debian [07:33] Does autoimport stop after one version fails to build? [07:33] not sure [07:33] and can only work better ;) === warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Fri Apr 8 09:50:53 2005 === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup