=== vigs [~vigs@cs562-vlan501.Kyiv.wnet.ua] has joined #kubuntu === vigs [~vigs@cs562-vlan501.Kyiv.wnet.ua] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Diablo-D3 [diablo@65.99.191.240] has joined #kubuntu === gunny [~gunny@res-66-169-54-062.spa.sc.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === sbcman [~john@BV1-24.207.180.219.charter-stl.com] has joined #kubuntu === smouche [~bc@cpe-24-90-47-224.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:39] sup smouche === brdweb [~brdweb@dsl092-173-023.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === awb4422 [~awb4422@grd0895.urh.uiuc.edu] has joined #kubuntu === sbcman [~john@BV1-24.207.180.219.charter-stl.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === wnorrix is now known as wnorrix|snome === FAR [~firas@62.150.203.58] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] hi all [01:06] anyone know how to sort KDE menu entries ? === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === goofrider [~goofrider@63-231-60-124.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu === Cius [~Cius@pcp564276pcs.rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:07] automatically that is, not manually [01:10] hey how do i download a file with curl ? [01:11] curl --usage === hippie [~hippie@pc-200-74-33-19.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === N33Dh3lp [~jnyws@pool-71-111-133-108.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] hello [01:39] Is there a functional difference between downloading Kubuntu, as a seperate OS and installing it, and adding Kubuntu Desktop to an up to date hoary build? [01:41] N33Dh3lp: it's the same [01:42] great [01:52] is there a way to unrar a newer rar archive? [01:52] one of the ones that is split up into like 40 pieces? [01:53] you can use unrar-nonfree from multiverse [01:53] is it just apt-get install unrar? [01:53] unrar-nonfree [01:54] ah okay [01:54] thanks [01:54] np === nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] you have the line for multiverse to add to sources.list? [01:58] who, me? [01:59] transgress: same one for main restricted universe [01:59] transgress: just use multiverse, instead [01:59] crimsun: thanks === wnorrix|snome is now known as wnorrix === hippie [~hippie@pc-200-74-48-5.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === Kisain [~Kisain@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === Kisain [~Kisain@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["::::::::::::Po0f!:::::::::::::::::"] === flyphisher [~sdavies@208.187.84.38] has joined #kubuntu === Kisain [~Kisain@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === mmuzzy [~mmuzzy@ip24-250-44-152.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] how to order a kubuntu cd? === cd [dub_@wbar100.chi1-4.29.133.138.chi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === cd [dub_@wbar100.chi1-4.29.133.138.chi1.dsl-verizon.net] has left #kubuntu [] === luke [~luke@218-101-80-195.dialup.clear.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === brdweb [~brdweb@dsl092-173-023.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:25] is it beter to use kdm or gdm? === Kisain is now known as [ADULT_SWIM] [02:25] <[ADULT_SWIM] > you know i don't know [02:25] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i think there both great [02:25] hmm [02:25] <[ADULT_SWIM] > and have there strong points [02:25] <[ADULT_SWIM] > it depends on what your lookin for as well === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] true true. but does using kdm limit some things, since kubuntu was origionally build with gnome? [02:29] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i have not noticed a lack of functionality with kubuntu if anything [02:29] <[ADULT_SWIM] > there are even more options [02:29] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i mean my k-menu is huge lol [02:29] ha [02:29] <[ADULT_SWIM] > ubuntu diden't have so many things in it [02:30] I prefer KDE === KaiL [KaiL@p548F5C7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:30] <[ADULT_SWIM] > it's simpler and maybe more constraning? [02:30] it has a more robust default package set than tsk...gnome. [02:30] <[ADULT_SWIM] > ii think so [02:30] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i like it better than gnome [02:30] me too. === chavo [~chavo@209.sub-70-212-36.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:30] you can't change as much in gnome [02:31] <[ADULT_SWIM] > kubuntu seems to be a tweakers paradise lol [02:31] :D [02:31] <[ADULT_SWIM] > even for the n00b like me it's easy to teak [02:31] <[ADULT_SWIM] > :D [02:32] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i can honistly say that if my box ever crashed due to an hd falure i would be crushed [02:32] <[ADULT_SWIM] > with windows i diden't care [02:32] <[ADULT_SWIM] > and with ubuntu it wasen't that big of a deal [02:32] <[ADULT_SWIM] > but with kubuntu man my world wuld freak [02:33] <[ADULT_SWIM] > after all i put in lol [02:33] the file system is alot more stable though, than windows, if it crashed it's less likely you'll lose everything [02:33] <[ADULT_SWIM] > thank god it so non hardware intensive [02:33] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i noticed that [02:33] <[ADULT_SWIM] > it seems to maintain itself [02:33] yeah, and it doesn't do a massive check after a crash [02:34] <[ADULT_SWIM] > without any user intervention [02:34] <[ADULT_SWIM] > and it dosent eat memory either [02:34] yeah [02:34] linux is awesome [02:34] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i like that about linux [02:34] <[ADULT_SWIM] > yes it is ^_^ [02:34] :D [02:35] compiling a kernel takes a long time.. [02:35] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i tryed gentoo.....you need to have a good knowledge base [02:35] <[ADULT_SWIM] > to use it [02:35] <[ADULT_SWIM] > it's for people way more advanced than a n00b [02:35] I'm installing gentoo on another computer now, takes a while [02:35] <[ADULT_SWIM] > yup [02:36] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i installed it but there was no desktop or nothin and thats where i got stuck lol [02:36] <[ADULT_SWIM] > only text :/ [02:36] I might replace kubuntu if I can get it going good on my other box. [02:36] you have to set it up as a desktop computer, theres a howto on the site [02:36] <[ADULT_SWIM] > ahhh [02:37] hmm [02:37] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i think i'll stay with my kubuntu cause i know it works and i'm starting to understand how linux works [02:37] you'll need to emerge x and a wm [02:37] for gentoo that is [02:37] <[ADULT_SWIM] > maybe in a few years once i understand linux i might try gentoo [02:38] <[ADULT_SWIM] > yea i know some of gentoo's emerge commands [02:38] <[ADULT_SWIM] > but i like the synaptic idea..... [02:38] what I want to do is install it on another harddrive and if I get fedup with it just go back to kubuntu [02:38] <[ADULT_SWIM] > it makes getting things and installing so much easyer [02:38] <[ADULT_SWIM] > good idea [02:39] with linux, alot of it isn't gui [02:39] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i think gentoo will never mainstream cause of it complexity in configuation [02:39] yeah people like simplicity [02:39] Gentoo isn't meant to be mainstream [02:39] <[ADULT_SWIM] > people want something like ubuntu/kubuntu cause all the basics are there [02:39] but thats why windows is huge, it's simple [02:40] Gentoo is used because it allows crazy optimization. [02:40] <[ADULT_SWIM] > yea === _michael [~michael@p549DD08C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:40] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i know if i where smarter with linux i'd probibly use it [02:40] <[ADULT_SWIM] > it looked neat but it's just to complex [02:40] gentoo builds a unique system based on your hardware [02:40] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i noticed that [02:41] <[ADULT_SWIM] > but i also know it's possible to bootsrap ubuntu/kubuntu [02:41] <[ADULT_SWIM] > for your specific system [02:41] <[ADULT_SWIM] > or at least thats what i herd [02:41] hmm [02:42] I havn't heard that. [02:42] <[ADULT_SWIM] > a freind of mine who has a freind who is a linux developer [02:42] <[ADULT_SWIM] > did it to his system [02:42] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i seen it [02:42] <[ADULT_SWIM] > it's bootstraped [02:42] well I spose anythings possible [02:43] <[ADULT_SWIM] > and it's the most gnarly kubuntu i've seen [02:43] I have a mate whos a developer and works on help desk for gentoo. gentoo is all he runs [02:43] <[ADULT_SWIM] > he on vacation in fl now so i have to waite for him to come back to tweak my system [02:44] <[ADULT_SWIM] > wow maybe i should send you my box [02:44] <[ADULT_SWIM] > have a real genius work on it lol [02:44] haha no no not me, mate mate ;) [02:44] my mate** [02:45] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i know [02:45] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i was just sayin send it to you for your freind to work on lol === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu [02:45] oh lol [02:45] <[ADULT_SWIM] > hey dere transgress [02:45] hello [02:45] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=desktop thats the link for making a gentoo system a desktop system [02:45] <[ADULT_SWIM] > how yous doin today? [02:45] had to open a new konsole... this one was messing up my toolbar [02:46] i'm doing good [02:46] <[ADULT_SWIM] > ouch [02:46] <[ADULT_SWIM] > cool === sirukin_ [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === wnorrix [warren@202.68.152.55] has joined #kubuntu === eggy [~eggy@eggy-yorkcc.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu === RichardC_ [RichardC@user-2injr3r.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === RichardC_ is now known as RichardC === sirukin_ is now known as sirukin [03:22] how do i add something to kde's startup? [03:23] is there a gui app? === jiyuu0|work [~jiyuu0@219.95.241.41] has joined #kubuntu [03:25] depends what you want to start. sometimes if you don't close an app before closing kde, it will bring it up again next startup === jiyuu0|work is now known as jiyuu0 [03:26] what do you want to start? [03:26] i want to start keychain [03:26] but its being a punk [03:26] it won't create the .ssh-agent file [03:26] grrr [03:26] hey is there an open source voice chat program for linux? [03:26] it doesn't have to be cross platform or anything [03:26] transgress: skype [03:26] nate__: open source? [03:27] transgress: ummm, its free, not sure about open source [03:27] I'm not familiar with kaychain sorry nate__ [03:28] luke: np, its for ssh though, so if you do lots of ssh you should check it out [03:28] will do [03:31] any idea how much time a kernel should take to compile? [03:31] it's been a couple of hours so far.. [03:39] hey nate__ do you use skype? === panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #kubuntu === flyphisher [~sdavies@208.187.84.38] has left #kubuntu ["Joined] [03:53] transgress: i did when i was on fedora, but i haven't bothered installing it yet === torpid [~pral@09d6663d707af48c.node.tor] has joined #KUBUNTU === ggarland [~ggarland@ip68-100-179-135.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:20] hrm [04:20] hey guys === muempf [~muempf@byrt-d9bb699c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:21] there isnt a kde version of gnome-system-tools, is there? [04:28] Greetings Everyone [04:29] I want to say Thanks to the developers of kubuntu and Ubuntu. You're doing a great job. Please keep up the good work. [04:29] I dont think any of them are here === difekta [debian-tor@40c257b00c9b331e.node.tor] has joined #KUBUNTU === ggarland [~ggarland@ip68-100-179-135.dc.dc.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] i thought gnome-system-tools went out with 2.10 === nate____ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon is now known as rohan === ubuntu [~ubuntu@modemcable168.129-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [04:54] k === ubuntu is now known as kubuntu === kubuntu is now known as run === run is now known as ack === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.15.67.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === gunny [~gunny@res-66-169-54-062.spa.sc.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:32] help I can't sudo kcontrol anymore kde complains about some files in /temp not belonging to user 0 === tim_h_ [~Tim@p54A1F3BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === R0bNyc [~XP@pool-162-84-205-80.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu [05:38] woohoo for hitting the power button on the surge protector [05:39] kubuntu works now? [05:39] is the problem fixed [05:40] my kubuntu hates me tonight [05:41] why for? [05:42] sudo is borked [05:42] I have to do kdesu instead of typing sudo kcontrol [05:42] I am living in the commandline world more and more and this is just annoying [05:43] and now no printing arrrrgh [05:44] printing fixed... damn printer was turned off :( [05:44] I are stoopid === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu === tim_h [~Tim@p54A1ECE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === hegemony [~heg@69.17.112.202] has joined #kubuntu [05:49] about how large in the kubuntu installation footprint? [05:54] hegemony: a bit over a gig [05:54] crimsun: thanks [05:55] thinking about shrinking my osx installtion to make room for installing kubuntu === eggy [~eggy@eggy-yorkcc.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] 'twould be interesting [05:56] i have a 40G, and already tight on space for just one OS, so i dont want to lose too much space, I was thinking about making 4G available for kubuntu [05:57] k, 500 MB swap and 3.5 GB / sounds good [05:57] i tried out the livecd for a little, and I'm generally pleased with what I see, tho of course it would be nicer to have an actual install, as it's faster and much more customizable [05:57] exactly === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === poopinaboot [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === luke [~luke@218-101-80-195.dialup.clear.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] anyone know how to stop ping? [06:12] ctrl + c [06:12] thanks! === luke [~luke@218-101-80-195.dialup.clear.net.nz] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:12] np === kkathman [kkathman@12.158.247.15] has joined #kubuntu [06:20] hello all :) === _nate [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === loren [loren@69-12-132-188.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@dyn-83-157-70-103.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu === NDService [~NovellDS@osiris.icrt.cu] has joined #kubuntu === _buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [07:00] salut [07:01] yo! [07:02] hullo! === ubuntu is now known as SupersizeME === Tezkah [~Tezkah@d137-186-160-50.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:05] is there a fix for apps like Firefox and GAIM having really crappy looking fonts? [07:05] I assume they use GTK [07:05] and I have this QT-for-GTK package installed [07:06] but it doesn't seem to be *activated* [07:08] it might be an issue with anti-aliased fonts [07:08] Tezkah: adn you don't have any of the Gnome "control center" stuff installed, right? [07:09] I think that Firefox installed it [07:10] ehh [07:10] Tezkah: install "gtk theme switch" or something [07:11] btw I like "crappy" simple monospace fonts :p [07:14] hey Tm_T :) [07:14] hi kkathman :) [07:14] how was the weekend visits? === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] kkathman: eh, ok, my youngest older brother (simple, huh?) got engaged, so nothing special [07:19] well thats kewl....was there no pressure cuz "older brother" isnt engaged? [07:19] I just assumed you weren't...maybe you are or married :) [07:19] me? what a laugh [07:19] Tm_T: its not that they're necessarily crappy, but when they're mixed with these beautiful KDE fonts... well... ugh [07:20] Tezkah: hmm, so do what I said ;) === kkathman [kkathman@12.158.247.15] has left #kubuntu [] [07:20] :o === kkathman [kkathman@12.158.247.15] has joined #kubuntu [07:20] hmmm that window closed on me for no reason! [07:20] weirf [07:20] kkathman: user error ;p [07:20] weird...but then Im on windows now...so I should expect it [07:21] sorry if I missed your anwer [07:21] answer [07:21] Tm_T Im actually in Los Angeles again in business, so on windows laptop :( [07:22] haha [07:22] create a dualboot :p [07:22] kkathman: well, I'm as single as I can be [07:22] not funny really....I love my linux box...they have been making fun of me the last few days because I tell them how great Linux is [07:22] ...and morning everybody [07:23] KaiL I would, honestly, but its the company laptop and a demo machine and I cant change too much at all === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:23] suxxors big time [07:24] KaiL: good morning :) [07:24] morning KaiL btw [07:24] kkathman: btw. if you can get a Lifebook E 8010 in your fingers with (k)ubuntu on it, tell me [07:25] here are 2 candidates around ;) === ds9bsd [~ds9@ASt-Lambert-102-1-2-116.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:26] I wish :) === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F6E7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:29] gar, stupid pppd [07:30] always 45 CPU temp after a reconnect [07:33] I wish I could get a nice Fujitsu Laptop for even cost!!!! [07:34] we just get like 10-20% off list duh [07:34] that's what everybody can get with some searching === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [07:35] so, since \sh gets congratulations for being an "ubuntu member" what does that mean? Arent we all ubuntu members? [07:35] heh [07:35] KaiL: exactly correct :) [07:38] i'm assuming there must be some money that exchanged hands to be an official "ubuntu member" :) [07:38] the rest of us must be "secret" ubuntu members :) [07:39] maybe even TOP secret ones :) [07:39] o/ [07:40] I'm soooo secret in my Ubuntu t-shirt [07:40] ;p [07:40] <_nate> how do you get rid of your root password once you set it? [07:41] set it empty? [07:41] or why you should get rid of it? [07:41] yeah why would you want to get rid of it? [07:41] <_nate> because its a security risk [07:41] <_nate> i want the account disabled [07:42] err? [07:42] security risk? [07:42] <_nate> yes [07:42] so please, explain [07:43] how can it be a security risk if it has a password [07:43] and how would it be less secure than your original name? [07:43] <_nate> brute-force cracking with ssh [07:43] ehh? [07:43] yeah and they could do that with any account [07:43] <_nate> it takes time, but i've already has some attacks [07:43] and just do SUDO on it :) [07:44] Fedora Core 4 Beta 3: Kernel 2.6.12rc, OpenOffice 2.0 beta, gcc 4 - any comments required about stability? [07:44] <_nate> bruteforce is a low-level hacking technique [07:44] geez how did you get a hack in linux? [07:44] <_nate> so i'd hope they would be ignorant of sudo :) [07:44] <_nate> they didn't actually get in, but they attempted to [07:44] haha [07:45] <_nate> root is common to all linux boxes, so its the one account you can garauntee is on the machine, so brute-forcing becomes easier [07:45] <_nate> disable the account and they have to guess your username as well [07:46] <_nate> then make a 12 character password for your user with upper and lowercase, numbers, and special characters === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [07:46] <_nate> and hope they don't know about sudo in ubuntu [07:46] well, why dont you make a 12 character psw with upper and lower chars for root then? [07:46] ok, now you're paranoid [07:46] geez _nate I think you're out on a limb and paranoid like Tm_T says [07:47] <_nate> kkathman: I did, but disabling the root user creates an extra layer of protection [07:47] <_nate> naw, I just want it to be a secure as I can make it reasonably [07:47] <_nate> but i figured it out [07:47] =) [07:47] <_nate> sudo passwd -l root [07:47] <_nate> locks the account [07:48] <_nate> call me paranoid, but its just that much more protection [07:49] I hope your default user isn't in the "admin" group then :p [07:49] <_nate> nope : ) [07:50] <_nate> default group of 'username' [07:50] and you have edited your sudoers list? [07:50] root is just in hiding [07:50] <_nate> yeah, Tezkah, I know [07:51] <_nate> its just an extra layer of protection [07:51] if someone wants in THAT bad, and who know why THAT level of hacker would go to THAT extreme to get on YOUR box, but if he did, you wont be able to stop him [07:51] <_nate> kkathman: brute-force hacking is rather easy, I'm just making it difficult for people who don't know what they're doing [07:51] anyone wants to hack my machine...go ahead...aint nuttin there worth takin :) lol theyll be VERY dissappointed [07:52] <_nate> I have personal information on this machine though [07:52] but _nate those that dont know what their doing, couldnt crack a 12-digit psw dude [07:52] I have credit card numbers in an unencrypted .txt file in the root of my directory [07:52] <_nate> kkathman: through patience [07:52] <_nate> lol Tezkah [07:52] plz hack me [07:52] :p [07:53] <_nate> Not THAT personal of information [07:53] <_nate> But I shred all my mail [07:53] [11:52 pm] [Tezkah VERSION reply] : mIRC v6.16 Khaled Mardam-Bey [07:53] fuck [07:53] <_nate> and I have identity-theft insurance [07:53] in ANY case...you'd do better getting a firewall and not worrying about it :) [07:53] OMG you ARE paranoid :) [07:53] <_nate> lol [07:53] <_nate> Its part of my legal insurance [07:53] and you got lots more money than me [07:53] so enjoy! [07:53] <_nate> its only $50 a month [07:54] while you are at it...dig a moat around your house [07:54] <_nate> kkathman: do you know me or something? how did you know i was doin that? [07:54] just a wild guess [07:54] <_nate> j/k ;) [07:55] $50/month for identity insurance...sheesh almost all credit cards give you that for like much less [07:55] if at all [07:55] AMEX gives it to you for free [07:55] <_nate> no, not for just identity insurance [07:55] <_nate> its legal insurance [07:55] <_nate> so go ahead and sue me, i don't pay for it, and I have top-rated firms representing me [07:55] now I'd like that...insurance against fricking lawyers :) [07:55] <_nate> lol, EXACTLY [07:56] <_nate> and I can get my will done up at no cost [07:56] I knew a guy that had a $20,000,000 liability insurance policy [07:56] <_nate> and I can call and get legal advice as much as I want [07:56] <_nate> lol [07:56] <_nate> was he really that bad? [07:56] _nate..I get that for $5.95 per month now :) [07:56] <_nate> 20 mill? [07:56] <_nate> for 5.95 a month? [07:57] _nate no, but he figured that he didnt want someone to sue him for like falling on his property or some weird crap...he was paranoid [07:57] <_nate> what do you get for 5.95 a month? [07:57] I get unlim legal advice and coverage on any legal action for $5.95 per month [07:57] <_nate> through who? [07:57] AOL Liability [07:57] xD [07:57] its a thing through my company thats available [07:58] <_nate> oh, yeah, through your company [07:58] <_nate> thats why [07:58] yep [07:58] its kinda like a PPO for lawyers :) [07:58] <_nate> well, this is independent of my company and is more services than i've mentioned here [07:59] <_nate> its pretty cool, I like it [07:59] but if I have a bitch, I can call them and they'll write a letter or whatever and you'd be amazed what that does :) [07:59] <_nate> exactly what mine does too :) [07:59] ok, sorry guys, gotta go -> [07:59] <_nate> Tm_T, we'll miss you greatly [07:59] <_nate> i love you [07:59] yeah I need to hit it too... [07:59] <_nate> have my babies [07:59] ROFL [08:00] <_nate> hehehe :) [08:00] _nate you are a riot :) [08:00] <_nate> kkathman: I know, now don't go hackin my machine!!!!!! [08:00] we need to party sometime man, :) [08:00] <_nate> I'm watching it day and night [08:00] <_nate> I'm gonna set it up with a cron job to email me with any changes in the log [08:00] I hack Tm_T's machine all the time to get his pron [08:00] <_nate> hourly [08:01] <_nate> to my gmail === kkathman hacks gmail all the time === _nate digs a moat in between chats [08:01] j.k [08:01] <_nate> kkathman: NEIN! [08:01] oh slackware [08:01] TEN [08:01] I do love patrick [08:01] but I love apt even more === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [08:02] tera patrick? [08:02] <_nate> I wanna try slackware, but i dunno about building a system from scratch [08:02] Patrick Vokerdoingdoing [08:02] <_nate> thats the idea behind slack, right? [08:02] slackware isn't a system from scratch though [08:02] oh... I love tera patrick [08:02] its just a very simple distro [08:02] <_nate> oh, ok [08:02] <_nate> hmm, whats diff about gentoo then? [08:03] gentoo is supposed to be good .. really good for compiling...i.e. if yer a kernel hacker [08:03] those are the ones breaking into your machine, _nate [08:03] gentoo is for compiling [08:03] thats it! === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-125.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [08:04] they break into Tm_T's machine for the pron [08:04] <_nate> ARGH! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! === _nate needs to try gentoo, but has no time [08:04] Did yer hack alarm go off _nate? [08:04] <_nate> kkathman: no, i'm watching it though [08:04] SUCCESS!! [08:04] Im in :) [08:05] but I am muddy from the swim across the moat [08:05] <_nate> lol [08:05] Did I forget to tell you that the moat does no good unless you have pirahna in it? [08:05] <_nate> actually, looks like a failed root login attempt, but i think that was me [08:05] <_nate> i have alligators [08:05] ROFL [08:06] <_nate> angry ones [08:06] <_nate> yep, it was me [08:06] how do you know they are angry? [08:06] <_nate> cuz i don't feed them and make them listen to Pat Benatar 24/7 [08:06] <_nate> They're ticked [08:07] oh...hehe thought you said Pat Robertson there for a second....I was gonna say I'd be angry too === _nate puts on the Pat Robertson for them [08:07] yeah that'll do it [08:07] <_nate> muhahaha, no one shall touch my ssh server! [08:07] or.. put them to sleep...better go back to Pat Benatar === _nate plays them both at the same time [08:08] schizophrenic alligators...not a good thing === kkathman douses the moat with Vallium [08:09] <_nate> haha [08:09] <_nate> ok, I think my server is ridiculously secured now [08:09] <_nate> now passwor-loggins are not allowed [08:09] yah thinl? [08:09] <_nate> only shared keys === kkathman gives up trying to get in === Diablo-D3 [diablo@65.99.191.240] has joined #kubuntu [08:09] I hear government servers are much easier [08:09] <_nate> lol [08:10] <_nate> probably true, they use M$ === kkathman submits _nate and his resume to be the new Internet Hack Czar [08:10] <_nate> lol [08:11] you always have a job at Fujitsu tho [08:11] <_nate> I've got an AS in Networking [08:11] <_nate> I need a job [08:11] To get to my email, I must logon to my VPN/SecureRemote 5 times just to get to my email password which is 10 digits upper and lower case with numbers and letter [08:12] <_nate> lol [08:12] so, they are more paranoid than you [08:12] then every four hours....I must repeat the process again [08:12] <_nate> lol [08:13] <_nate> i have a friend whose ssh server got hacked recently [08:13] <_nate> so thats why i got all paranoid [08:13] <_nate> now he has to vpn into his network to access his server [08:13] and yet...I can get to my mail with a simple name and password through web access...go fricking figure [08:13] <_nate> kkathman: yeah, but they're at least using SSL most times === KaiL_ misses some users having questions today [08:13] from ANY kiosk or anythng [08:14] KaiL_ is telling us in a kind way to STFU [08:14] uhm, no [08:14] <_nate> KaiL_: ok, have another way I can be paranoid and lock down my server further? [08:14] or ask a question :) [08:14] hey KaiL_ I deleted my root directory can you plz help me? [08:15] better this than total silence :) [08:15] Tezkah: uhm, you deleted /? [08:15] <_nate> Tezkah: tell me you're kidding [08:15] or /root? [08:15] I deleted / [08:15] can I undelete it from the recycling bin? [08:15] reinstall [08:15] haha [08:15] just kidding === kkathman wonders how Tezkah's system is still running [08:15] oh [08:15] I have a real question [08:15] kkathman: the apps are in the RAM, so...:) [08:16] KaiL_ you could tell him to fix it by typing rm -R / [08:16] I tried to enable ACPI suspend to RAM [08:16] so I uncommented the line [08:16] and rebooted [08:16] <_nate> kkathman: you forgot the f [08:16] then tried to close the lid [08:16] you didn't need to [08:16] oh yeah sorry [08:16] closing the lid only blanks the screen [08:16] yeah [08:16] it blanked the screen [08:16] I always forget where that f goes tho [08:16] and I couldn [08:16] t make it come back [08:16] <_nate> kkathman: rm -rf [08:17] it should come back on reopening the lid :) [08:17] <_nate> Tezkah: spin around three times on your head first [08:17] heh [08:17] it didn't come back [08:17] I just saw a blank screen with a cursor [08:17] bad :( [08:17] <_nate> Tezkah: then shout "My head is where my butt should be!" [08:17] hit the power button (the only button on the laptop to do with power) [08:18] <_nate> that should fix it [08:18] and it shut down [08:18] <_nate> Tezkah: I woulda tried spacebar first [08:18] yeah, no keys would bring it back [08:18] but I didnt hit space [08:18] <_nate> oh, sucky [08:18] hmm [08:18] incredible, that lid.sh can fail... [08:19] well, try if the real suspend to ram works better: [08:19] sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh [08:20] ah, I'll try that [08:20] also, I need to run a command "dhclient ra0" when I boot [08:20] I'm sure theres an easy way to do that [08:22] kde controlcenter -> networking -> network-settings [08:22] rt2500 drivers should be included :) [08:23] yeah, I installed the drivers === hegemony [~heg@69.17.112.202] has joined #kubuntu [08:23] <_nate> k, goin to bed now [08:23] but when I run kcontrol, and try to enable the wireless [08:23] it says "enabling" [08:23] <_nate> gnite kkathman, Tezkah, and KaiL_ [08:23] and then goes back to the way it was === KaiL_ too on my Athlon 1000 systen [08:23] goodnight _nate [08:23] nnight...Im out too :) [08:23] anyways, I have to run "dhclient ra0" from terminal === _nate is now known as _nate_sleeping === kkathman [kkathman@12.158.247.15] has left #kubuntu [] [08:23] <_nate_sleeping> gnite [08:23] in order to make it run [08:23] Tezkah: you have set it to dhcp on the left? [08:24] I don't know [08:24] check :) [08:24] all I know is that it connects with that command [08:24] that command does a dhcp query [08:24] but this can also be done automatically :) [08:24] auto...magically? [08:24] I know that ifup says that it isn't configured [08:25] iface ra0 inet dhcp [08:26] auto ra0 === amalsek [~amalsek@ADijon-151-1-49-197.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:26] that are the 2 lines in /etc/network/interfaces [08:26] ah, so add them to that file [08:29] powernowd works good, as good as windows does [08:29] i'm quite pleased with the whole install [08:30] only as good as windows does? [08:30] that's bad ;) [08:30] heh [08:30] well, I thought it was being bad [08:30] because the fan was constantly on [08:31] but I realize its because I don't have my heat solution set up here [08:31] (two blocks to set the laptop on so it can get air) [08:31] not that the fans weren't being shut off on Linux [08:31] I mean GNU/Linux [08:31] sorry RMS [08:31] lol [08:31] its okay it happens all the time [08:34] does anybody know something about fabbiones sleep-times? [08:34] he's awake === da_bon_bon is now known as rohan [08:35] good, so I can start a diskussion about drivers as rt2500 soon (GPL, but not in default kernel...) [08:35] he is in Australia [08:35] KaiL_: yeah, well, aren't they prerelease? === harsha_ [~harsha@202.71.143.90] has joined #kubuntu [08:36] at least they work (for be even the file from RaLink does) [08:36] yeah [08:36] I tried installing debian in september [08:36] failed hardcore [08:36] didn't realize this was a ralink card [08:36] not a broadcom [08:36] Tezkah: who, Fabio? He's in Italy. [08:36] I was just making wild accusations [08:37] his host looks danish ;) [08:37] I have no idea where he is right this moment [08:37] and the name in fact italian ;) === chavo [~chavo@226.sub-70-212-24.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === fitz_ [~fitz@adsl150-127.aknet.it] has joined #kubuntu === loren [loren@69-12-132-188.dsl.static.sonic.net] has left #kubuntu [] === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [09:01] hmm, now he's just gone === amalsek [~amalsek@ADijon-151-1-49-197.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL [KaiL@p548F324F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:08] moin === lymz [~lymz@ip68-109-136-240.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === lymz [~lymz@ip68-109-136-240.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F3A1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL|Sheep [KaiL@p548F68B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL|Sheep is now known as KaiL [09:24] sheeplover KaiL [09:25] the system was once a "stupid server", that's where the name comes from [09:25] my testsystem is "donkey", as the mainboard sometimes behaves like one ;) [09:26] heh [09:27] it's full or bugs, including deadly broken APM === golanz [~golan@81-174-12-108.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-141-153-89-111.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === gnumdk [~gnumdk@195.221.59.41] has joined #kubuntu === koka-kola [t6@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu === gnumdk_ [~gnumdk@195.221.59.41] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@possep008396-gw.clients.easynet.fr] has joined #kubuntu === _crystal [~crystal@host-63-238-55-190.apid.com] has joined #kubuntu === {Cricket} [~Cr1ck3t@host-63-238-55-190.apid.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:17] <{Cricket}> Hello all === M_Fatih [~fatih@81.214.152.57] has joined #kubuntu [10:19] hi all [10:20] yo [10:20] i have a problem with upgrading kdelibs.. it has interesting error what i can't fixed.. [10:20] http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/goster.php?no=752 [10:20] <{Cricket}> http://moba.linuxfaqs.de/kdelibs-debug.sh script will fix kdelibs bug [10:20] see this paste file.., [10:20] hmm. i'll try.. [10:20] ah [10:21] I think I'm looking for that fix too [10:21] :( [10:21] <{Cricket}> have you guys tried the bug fix thats in the topic? [10:21] run as sudo? [10:21] <{Cricket}> ... === mepisman [~mepisman@CPE-143-238-231-66.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [10:25] hehe [10:25] the topic, I usually don't notcie [10:25] *notice [10:26] <{Cricket}> well start noticing its up there for a reason === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [10:27] will do [10:28] :) === \sh [~shermann@server3.servereyes.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === snowcrash [~snowcrash@62.218.246.137] has joined #kubuntu [10:37] hi [10:37] whats a good download manager for ubunutu === gnumdk_ is now known as gnumdk [10:38] kde based? kget [10:39] konqi [10:39] :) [10:39] <{Cricket}> I'm really not liking ubuntu as much as I thought I would [10:39] hmm [10:39] why not? [10:40] <{Cricket}> theres parts of it I like and parts of it I don't... [10:40] <{Cricket}> I'm really not interested in having to do sudo all the time I'd rather be logged in as root, the whole thing is kinda bland and kubuntu is ugly. [10:41] eh [10:41] you _can_ enable root account easily [10:41] and you _can_ control it's visual appearance [10:41] and what is ugly on kubuntu? [10:42] <{Cricket}> besides all of that I really prefer installing source packages myself I don't like the packagemanager [10:42] <{Cricket}> everything lol [10:42] {Cricket}: ugly? http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo_022.png [10:43] nice k-menu icon [10:44] KaiL: not only menu ;p http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo_021.png [10:45] wow [10:45] uhm, is there some package for amarok 1.3 I haven't seen yet, or is that selfcompiled? [10:45] kget ? [10:45] ok :) [10:45] damn this ubuntu is so kewl [10:45]