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miconDaBlade, were in the same boat.. no one will help us12:00
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flodinewhy12:00
LinuxJonesDaBlade, what app are you tring to install, sorry I just joined12:00
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DaBladeLinuxJones: Transcode12:00
lampshademicon, what's the problem?  I might be able to12:00
DaBlademicon: indeed12:00
psychonateWhat permissions do I need to put on a mount point so that, when I mount a drive there, my normal user will have full permissions on all of the files/dirs on that drive?12:00
[blue] kent: because if i use lsusb, i have 2 devices.. my usb mouse and something called microdia.12:00
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miconlampshade, when im trying to install ubuntu, after i hit enter at the boot screen, it says a few lines, then goes to an all black screen12:00
miconwith a bunch of stuff12:00
DaBladeLinuxJones: It's a core dependency of perl-video-dvdrip(dvd::rip)12:00
LinuxJonesDaBlade, your trying to get dvdrip installed ?12:00
DaBladeyup12:01
rymansomething is wrong with firefox12:01
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rymanit keeps crashing12:01
[blue] kent: that should be the webcam12:01
miconand at the bottom is says <............DSDT... initrd  not found12:01
LinuxJonesDaBlade, as far as I can remember it has been broken for about 4 months :(12:01
lampshadepsychonate, if you feel like it, you could just chmod 777 it12:01
flodinelampshade why not12:01
DaBladeIt worked fine on Fedora :(12:01
lampshadeflodine, why not what?  run fluxbox now?  Cause I'm ahppy with gnome so far.  That's all12:02
miconlampshade, any ideas?12:02
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makileyrver ww.irc-hispano.org12:02
klexysdoes anyone know how to mount an scsi drive (fs: ntfs) at startup?12:02
lampshademicon, does the livecd do the same thing, do you happen to know?12:02
miconlampshade, no i dont know.12:02
LinuxJonesDaBlade,  it's just the Debian packages in Mirillate repos12:02
miconbut i dont have the connection to download the livecd.12:02
miconi had my friend burn me a install cd from the website12:03
psychonatelampshade, I still can't create files in some of the directories. I think the permissions are a bit messed up because I was using this drive on another box.12:03
DaBladeLinuxJones: Is there any way whatsoever to get it installed?12:03
psychonatelampshade, Should I try to chown the directories first?12:03
DaBladeI gotta get transcode in. I mean, if it works on the king of dependencies, Fedora, it must work on Kubuntu12:03
LinuxJonesDaBlade,  let me ss if I can find another repo for you12:03
DaBladeokay thanks :)12:04
LinuxJonessee*12:04
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dead^^Gatton: fcuk, I must sound annoying, but I tried to install w32codecs on command dpkg -i w32codecs.deb, but my Totem-player just freezes and says later on that "you must install corrcect plugins" or something like that :P. I'm sorry, I really must get on you're nerves right now, but could you guide me how to install the plugins?12:04
lampshadepsychonate, well chmod 777 should give everyone all permissions.  It is the least secure but the most useful when being quick and dirty with permissions.  What may be happening is that the lower folders, etc aren't getting the correct perms.  I would do an ls -l in the directory and see what the perms are for the files  see if you have rw (read and write) where it needs to be12:05
LinuxJonesDaBlade,  check out this link from apt-get.org >> http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=dvdrip&submit=&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all12:05
DaBladedead^^, I can help you out12:05
DaBladebut first do apt-get install alien12:05
AladdinBigJG, oh my god bg I went trought that.  that's why I fellback on prure-ftpd gui nterface12:05
psychonatelampshade, the lower dirs are drwxrwxr-x, but if I chown them, it works alright after that. RIght now the owner and group are 501/50112:06
dead^^DaBlade: ok12:06
BigJGthere is a gui interface for pure-ftp?12:06
BigJGAladdin: there is a gui interface fore pure-ftp?12:06
LinuxJonesDaBlade,  btw, they are not Ubuntu packages but might work ok for you :)12:06
BigJGAladdin: yea this one is a bit confusing12:06
Aladdinyep12:07
DaBladedead^^, then do alien --to-deb on the packages here: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/12:07
DaBladeThanks, LinuxJones :D12:07
AladdinBigJG, yep12:07
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Aladdindoesn't work home :(12:07
svartHow do i play movies with the live cd?12:07
DaBladedead^^: Those w32codecs packages work12:08
DaBladesvart, are you norwegian?12:08
svartnope.. swedish12:08
[blue] hmm12:08
DaBladeFigured. Svart means black in norwegian too ;)12:08
svartsure does..12:08
Aladdinhttp server works good tought, I got Mambo installed (php portal, and a cool one)12:08
DaBladeLinuxJones: But I need Transcode first. It's the main dep12:08
xiaogilI have a local web server on a wifi laptop, a friend of mine would to log on it without going through the internet (he has a wifi laptop too). Is that possible with Ubuntu ?12:08
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BigJGAladdin: mambo is the server or a portal for it12:09
AladdinBigJG, BigJG, oh my god bg I went trought that.  that's why I fellback on prure-ftpd gui nterface12:09
Aladdinit's a portal12:09
[blue] the usb webcam module is loaded but i dont have /dev/v4l2 entry12:09
sobersabrehas anybody had problems with skype ( echo/delay effects ) ?12:09
BigJGAladdin: you using apache for the server then?12:09
Aladdinserver is genie-server.redirectme.neet12:09
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[blue] does anyonw know how to fix that ?12:09
Aladdinserver is genie-server.redirectme.net12:09
sobersabreboth skypers use headset12:09
AladdinBigJG, server is genie-server.redirectme.net12:09
dead^^DaBlade: thanks. I'll try it and if it doesn't work, I'll hang myself to ceiling =). I'm kinda ashamed to ask such dumb questions on here. and my english at least terrible =)12:09
LinuxJonesDaBlade,  if you add one of those repos to your /etc/apt/sources.lst it should have a working transcode included as a dependency.12:10
sobersabreone is windows, other linux 1.0.0.312:10
svartanyway.. i try to load a movie from my hardrive but i get an "Unknown error" message from Totem12:10
mdkeanyone used multi-aterm? i'm interested in finding a good xterminal which is fast and hopefully has tab support too. Anyone help me out?12:10
lampshadesvart, you might not have the correct codecs, did you install the codecs already?12:10
rymanhow do I upgrade to the newest version of FireFox ? My firefox keeps crashing for no reason12:10
DaBladedead^^: Actually, you were lucky I was here. (shameless of me to say lol). I was using Fedora Core before I switched here. those are packs for it12:11
svarthow do i install codecs when running from livecd?12:11
DaBladeLinuxJones: Thanks12:11
AladdinBigJG, apache 2 prefork12:11
Aladdinwith php and sql enabled12:11
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AladdinBigJG, with php and sql enabled12:12
Aladdinubuntu default :o)12:12
AladdinBigJG, ubuntu default12:12
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AladdinBigJG, and yeah I know it's in french :)12:13
sbcl3_goldfish: did you ever find out anything?12:13
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BigJGlol12:13
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AladdinBigJG, french canadian, quebec, canada12:13
dabaSlonwionnipeg12:14
Dreamer3ok, i have modprobed lt_modem and lt_serial, but i don't know where to go from there?12:14
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goldfishsbcl3_: nope, the command to do that is uname, but i dont think u can specify it to work for a certain directory, i think that works for ALL files you create.12:14
goldfishsbcl3_: prolly best to run the chmod -R command.12:14
BigJGAladdin:  it looks like with pure-ftpd it still requires a real user to be created for virtual user permissions12:14
goldfishsbcl3_: maybe you could set up a cron job to execute the chmod command on the directory for you12:15
sbcl3_goldfish: isn't that what i did?12:15
goldfishyep12:15
Jimmothyi'm having a problem. i have BMP and it refuses to be killed in the process manager. it's listed as beep-media-play but has no path.12:15
AladdinBigJG, ok let'me check12:15
sbcl3_linus really needs to fix that...12:15
goldfishsbcl3_: i thought u wanted it for new folders created it in the directory?12:15
BigJGAladdin: its giving me errors when i try to manage users in the gui12:15
sbcl3_yes12:16
goldfishhehe12:16
sbcl3_i want to keep my files in /sbcl312:16
lampshadepsychonate, I didn't see others with write permission.  That's probably why.  Once you chown it to say user then user is the owner and owner has rwx permissions according to what you listed.  See if a chmod a+w  file let's you mod that file, save it, etc12:16
AladdinBigJG, me too.... can't find configuration file12:16
sbcl3_because /home/sbcl3 has lots of hidden folders i like to configure12:16
Dreamer3anyone is there any quick ubuntu ltmodem how-to?12:16
goldfishDreamer3: ubuntuguide.org ?12:16
Dreamer3goldfish: doesn't seem to be lt_modem info there12:17
AladdinBigJG, me too.... and PureFTPD not running!12:17
sbcl3_goldfish: as i'm the owner it seems to work fine...12:17
AladdinBigJG, and it's not :o(12:17
goldfishsbcl3_: I thought you meant, that each time you created a folder in that directory you wanted it to have a certain permission.12:17
goldfishok, i think i should go to bed.12:18
BigJGAladdin: was that website yours?12:18
goldfishI'm confising things :/12:18
goldfish*confusing12:18
psychonatelampshade, I just did a 'chown -R psychonate;psychonate' to get it working alright, but I think a chmod a+w probably would've worked too12:18
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psychonatelampshade, I think the user and group were foreign anyway, so it was nice to change them12:18
AladdinBigJG, genie-server.redirectme.net?  yeah12:18
Aladdinwhy?12:18
AladdinBigJG, why?12:19
dabaSlonJimmothy: do a killall bmp if that is the process name in a terminal12:19
BigJGAladdin: looking good :) if only i could read it :D12:19
AladdinBigJG, !!!!!!12:19
BigJGAladdin: lol12:19
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AladdinBigJG, oh.. hehe freench... I know. sorry12:19
JimmothydabaSlon: it isn';t working. the process has no path12:20
dabaSlonjust a sec, I happen to have one bmp running.12:20
AladdinBigJG, oh.. well register.. I will translate your articles :o)12:20
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AladdinBigJG, oh.. well register.. I will translate your articles personnaly :o)12:21
chris__how does one make bash ring the bell12:21
Dreamer3i've modprobed the lt_modem and lt_serial, but i don't think there is a device in /dev, am i missing something?12:21
BigJGAladdin: lmao12:21
BigJGAladdin: ill register12:21
chris__Dreamer3, is ur modem a winmodem?12:21
BigJGAladdin: and http://geekspeek.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3512:21
AladdinBigJG, lmao?12:21
Dreamer3chris__: yes, it's supported with the lt_modem driver12:21
chris__o12:21
BigJGAladdin: means i am happy12:21
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chris__how does one make bash ring the bell12:21
Dreamer3chris__: i modprobed it find (dmesg), but don't know how to get wvdial to talk to it12:21
AladdinBigJG, k :o)12:21
AladdinBigJG, that's your home?: http://geekspeek.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3512:22
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ghaishello guys, how do i figure what parameter to pass to mplayer to select video output device?12:22
lampshadepdf's open sooo much faster on linux.  It always blows my mind12:22
dabaSlonJimmothy: killall beep-media-play12:22
chris__4 my question, i just want to echo \a or whatever... how do i do this12:22
BigJGAladdin: no, it is a tutorial for pure-ftpd12:22
BigJGAladdin: im reading it now12:22
svartdoes anyone have any ideas as to how i migth play movies using totem on the livecd?12:22
Aladdinoh! lol12:23
dabaSlonghais: I dont, but man mplayer does, if you feel like reading.12:23
ghaisthe thing is what ever i pass, mplayer fails to open12:23
mdkeghais, -vo i think12:23
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mdkewb ogra12:23
ghaisdabaSlon: i did -vo but i need to specify a device12:23
lampshadesvart, you can probably only play movies that don't use any fancy codecs.  movies that need divx, etc will require you to install those codecs which I don't know exactly how you do with the livecd.  or if it is possible12:23
mdkeghais, xv is good12:23
ograhey mdke12:23
svartdamn..12:23
mdkey012:23
ghaisdabaSlon: and which ever one i pass the system fails to open12:23
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mdkeghais, check the error and google it12:24
ghaismdke: i will do that12:24
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svarti cant play mp3s either.. Is the LiveCD really that crippled?12:25
svartMusicplayer says: "No module for format: mp3"12:25
mdkesvart, it doesn't have mp3 support12:25
mdkesvart, Ubuntu in general does not ship with mp3 support12:26
k31the12:26
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svarttrue.. that fraunhofer something..12:26
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k31th] 12:27
svartand i cant to connect to the repositories..12:27
chris__how does one make bash ring the bell12:27
ben__Is there any graphical utility in Ubuntu to control which services are active in their respective runlevels?12:27
mdkesvart, but if you install Ubuntu you can get mp3 support yourself12:27
svartand i cant to connect to the repositories.. using Synaptic...12:27
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mdkesvart, using the live cd?12:28
svartyepp12:28
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mdkeBe BaCk LaTeR12:28
AladdinBigJG, OK well since you're a new frind.  My MSN thing is aladdin_genieserver@hotmail.com  please feel free to greet!12:28
svartof course.. this is the warty livecd..12:28
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k31thright with MySQL if someone opens a record, is that record locked by the first person that opens it , so that others cant write to it at the same time as you ?12:29
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AladdinBigJG, I will fallback on proftpd.  It's got to have a config file preconfigured soemwhere!12:29
svarthas the archive been renamed to hoary and warty been taken offline.. Im connecting to archive.ubuntu.com/warty or something like that..12:29
AladdinBigJG, Take care. Aladdin  (poof!)12:30
BigJGAladdin: yea these are pretty confusing at first, im going to stick w/ pure for a bit and see what happens12:30
BigJGAladdin: i added you to msn so hope u see it12:30
goldfishlol12:30
rymancan someone help me with install firefox 1.0.3 ?12:30
goldfishryman: don't think u can get it for hoary.12:30
goldfishif you are on hoary.12:30
rymanhmm why not ?12:30
lotusleafgoldfish: not even from mozilla's site?12:30
goldfishno idea.12:30
rymanI downloaded it from www.getfirefox.com12:31
goldfishoh ok.12:31
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goldfishWhy are you upgrading if you dont mind me asking?12:31
rymanmy firefox keep crashing12:31
goldfishk12:31
rymanand I think there is some security issue on firefox12:31
goldfishyeah12:31
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goldfishthere is on in the new version aswell12:31
adb22791hi12:31
goldfish*one12:31
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goldfishadb22791: hello12:31
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rymanI read it somewhere on the news12:31
goldfishryman: what format is the file in?12:31
adb22791hey I need some help12:31
adb22791with the Live cd12:31
rymantaz.gz12:32
goldfishryman: yeah there is, there is some on the new version aswell.12:32
adb22791can anyone point me to live cd documentation?12:32
rymanmy firefox keep crashing12:32
svartmdke, the thing is that my computer is in a state of almost no functionality. I've had a disk crash, my rats bit of the keyboard cable and my cddrive sounds like it is grinding coffe.. Im just waiting for my new and shiny and shiny and shiny mac to arrive12:32
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svartand i would really like to watch some movies rigth now :)12:33
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goldfishryman: well you need to unpack the tar, tar xvzf blah.tar.gz12:33
goldfishem then i think it's ./configure && make12:33
goldfishi'm not sure12:33
adb22791can someone please point me to Live CD documentation12:33
goldfishadb22791: emm, tried the ubuntu website?12:34
micongod damnit12:34
dabaSlonadb22791: whats up?12:34
miconwhat why the fuck am i getting stuck at this screen12:34
rymangoldfish do you have the link to the firefox news ?12:34
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goldfishryman: the vunerabilities?12:34
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rymangoldfish, yes12:35
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goldfishryman: http://securityfocus.com/archive/1/397747/2005-05-07/2005-05-13/012:36
goldfishuck wrong link12:36
goldfishsorry12:36
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goldfishit's on bugtraq somewhere12:36
goldfishryman: http://securityfocus.com12:37
goldfishhave a browse there12:37
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rymangoldfish, thanks12:38
rymangoldfish, found it http://securityfocus.com/news/1111912:39
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goldfishryman: hehe, sorry , i couldnt see it :)12:39
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adb22791hi12:40
adb22791I need help12:40
hyphenatedhas anyone here set up the ATI driver with TV-out on ubuntu, and know of a good guide for it? google found plenty of guides, but some seem outdated/not for xorg/etc and I don't know what a good one is :-)12:41
adb22791Does anyone know any good documentation sites for the Live CD?12:41
goldfishadb22791: What's wrong?12:41
hyphenatedadb22791: what kind of documentation?12:41
adb22791i just want to know more about running the Live CD12:42
adb22791like how to save preferences and all that12:42
adb22791It's been great so far12:42
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adb22791can anybody help me>12:43
adb22791?12:43
hyphenatedadb22791: your question is too vague, and the live cd isn't well-documented12:43
crimsunadb22791: there isn't much in the way of specific documentation for the live cd(s)12:43
crimsunadb22791: most of what applies to an installed Ubuntu distro will apply also to the live cd12:43
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bthorntonFor some reason, Synaptic all-the-sudden is asking me to insert at CD-ROM into the drive when preforming updates over the Internet.  Any clue how to fix this?12:45
bthorntonI'm not even sure what caused it--I *just* did a system update over the 'net.12:45
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goldfishbthornton: remove the line containing cd in sources.list12:45
goldfishbthornton: well, comment it out12:45
dabaSlondamn...I opened an HP computer as we are speaking, and that baby is packed...12:46
bthorntongoldfish: Will do; thanks12:46
dabaSlonits tottaly full12:46
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hybrid_gothumm this may be the wrong channel and if so plz someone redirect me but how do i veiw the source of a closed source program i.e. if i have the prog in my computer what can i do to see it12:47
dabaSloncrimsun: or others, for that matter...how should I go about determining if a hard drive is malfunctioning?12:47
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goldfishhybrid_goth: an .exe ?12:47
hybrid_gothyes12:47
goldfishyou coud dissasemble it12:47
goldfish*could12:47
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crimsundabaSlon: dmesg spew regarding your disk controller12:48
goldfishany good at assembly hybrid_goth ?12:48
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dabaSloncrimsun: In english...;)12:48
hybrid_gothgoldfish: how would i go about doin that12:48
crimsundabaSlon: and if you're using a HD with s.m.a.r.t. enabled, the smartd logs12:48
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dabaSlonit has nothing installed at this time.12:48
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hybrid_gothno12:48
crimsundabaSlon: prior to a drive succumbing, there usually are tons of errors in dmesg regarding the drive12:49
FARAnyone know how to sort the KDE menu items ?12:49
hybrid_gothgoldfish: is that the only way possible12:49
goldfishhybrid_goth: don't know12:49
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goldfishhybrid_goth: sorry :(12:49
hybrid_gothgoldfish: ok ty12:49
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La_PaRCahey kids. Does anyone know if the shipit cds for hoary have been shipped?12:50
hybrid_gothgoldfish: np12:50
BurgundaviaLa_PaRCa, some have12:50
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dabaSlonoh, ok, I get it...I have a hard drive that is not doing anything at this time...I want to install a windows on it...Now...I want to find out why have my previous attempts at installing it failed. Do you think I should just put the hard drive into my computer, test if it works in there, and then put it back and go from there?12:50
psychonateaw, this is unpleasant :(12:50
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La_PaRCaOk, just asking, because the shipit page hasnt been updated12:50
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psychonateasciijump is super fun, but whenever I set a new hill record, it crashes :(12:50
dabaSlonand by not doing anything...I mean it has nothing on it.12:50
chris_ubuntuI have a bag full of PCI modems.  How can I find which ones will be easily recognized by ubuntu?12:50
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Burgundaviachris_ubuntu, try them all?12:51
Burgundaviachris_ubuntu, it would also be great hardware testing12:51
Burgundaviachris_ubuntu, basically, file bug reports for each that doesn't work12:51
hybrid_gothanyone know how i can take apart or view the source of a .exe?12:51
awb4422I've noticed that ffmpeg isn't compiled with xvid... is there a way to enable it without having to compile from source?12:52
dabaSlonthere is no source in it, it is compiled.12:52
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, you can decompile12:52
chris_ubuntuBurgundavia, I have to be more time efficient than that.  Do you know of a listing of hardware vs winmodems which I can ref?12:52
hybrid_gothBurgundavia: how would i do that12:52
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, no idea, google it12:52
FARDreamer3:  any luck with your modem? I was checkin' out http://www.linmodems.org/ and used their scanmodem tool which recommended i try out the slamr module12:52
hybrid_gothlol12:52
hybrid_gothok12:52
Burgundaviachris_ubuntu, you might try googling the chipset12:52
dabaSlonok, I am about to switch the monitors, so, Ill be a while before I get back, anyone have any advice, about what I had said earlier?12:53
FARDreamer3:  i had tried to install that before from synaptic but it kept failing so i downloaded and compiled the latest one from their site12:53
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dabaSlonok, here goes.12:53
dead^^i have a problem with installing w32codecs. i've tried different commands and different packages, but nothing seems to work >:'(12:53
crimsundead^^: paste in #flood the errors12:54
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Burgundaviadead^^, you have done the stuff at www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats?12:54
Burgundaviadead^^, sorry www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:54
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willishas anyone gotten beagle from the breezy repositories to work?  or is there some inotify inconsistancy12:54
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Burgundaviawillis, i have12:55
willisBurgerMann, 2.6.10? or 2.6.1212:55
msbenderhello, i have a problem with blurry fonts on my LCD display on my notebook, anybody who could help?12:55
crimsunmsbender: did you configure System>Preferences>Fonts?12:56
FARmsbender: u using kubuntu or ubuntu ?12:56
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FARmsbender:  i had the same problem with cleartype so i just disabled it12:56
rhys-hynawshey how do I run setenv ?12:56
crimsunrhys-hynaws: you don't by default, you use export12:56
msbenderso far i've only tried ubuntu live, the same problem was under kanotix...12:57
crimsunrhys-hynaws: bash is the default shell, not [t] ch12:57
crimsun[t] csh, rather12:57
dabaSlonexport VAR='value'12:57
rhys-hynawsOH thank you12:57
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FARmsbender:  sorry, i meant "anti-aliasing"12:57
FARmsbender:  try to disable it and see if that makes it any better12:57
msbenderFAR: can you tell me how i can turn this off, i'm not in ubuntu now but will try later12:58
FARmsbender:  not sure about Gnome cause i'm using KDE, but like crimsun said look around under System>Preferences>Fonts12:59
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msbenderok, will do my best, thanks a lot! :-)12:59
revelaterhey, how do i get cups to recognize my printer?12:59
dead^^Burgundavia: naeh, i've been trying to download packages that people have been suggesting and nothing seems to happen =(12:59
FARmsbender:  good luck !12:59
revelateror just how do i run cups?12:59
Burgundaviadead^^, are familiar with linux/debian?01:00
FARrevelater:  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start01:00
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dead^^Burgundavia: not so much. I'm just startin' with Linux. i feel so frustrated. i've literally tried almost everything01:00
revelaterhmmm, still not working, but cups is started01:01
Burgundaviadead^^, have you added the repositories in synaptic?01:01
shido6anytime I access my dvd to watch a movie, vlc, xine, totem my mouse dies01:01
revelateris their some gui interface for cups?01:01
shido6what do i do to recover my mouse when I watch a movie with my dvd player - or when I run vmware01:01
dead^^Burgundavia: yes, i've tried that too01:01
dead^^Burgundavia: nothing01:02
rhys-hynawshey. export is not working like I need it to: setenv actalike.01:02
Burgundaviadead^^, can you paste me your sources.list01:02
revelater?01:02
dead^^Burgundavia: wait a minute01:02
revelateris their some gui interface for cups?01:02
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FARrevelater:  http://localhost:631/01:03
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nick58brevelater: gnome-cups-manager01:03
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rhys-hynawshey. Can anyone tell me how to use export like setenv ?01:04
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FARrevelater:  however i haven't been able to use this on my computers even after setting a root password it won't accept it, anyone know why ?01:04
dabaSlon ok, it seems that the hard disk wasnt properly power supplied01:04
benzi need help mounting my ntfs partition01:04
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dabaSlonbenz ubuntuguide.org01:04
dabaSlonand, ls /dev01:04
crimsunrhys-hynaws: export SOMEVAR=someval01:04
dabaSlonsee which hdx123....is your partition01:05
fsapohi.. somebody could help me with a very simple shellscript?01:05
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dabaSlonfsapo: paste it to pastebin.com, and give us the URL01:05
rhys-hynawscrimsun, export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla ... is not working01:05
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fsapoi have some movies to encode but each one takes 1 hour, i wanna make some kind of batch to run it01:05
crimsunrhys-hynaws: why do you need to do that? the firefox script already does that01:05
rhys-hynawscrimsun, Eclipse doesn't pick it up01:06
revelaterhmm, my printer was paused for some reason...01:06
dabaSlonfsapo: what knowledge do you need?01:06
rhys-hynawscrimsun, I am tryingto use PHPEclipse.01:06
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fsapodabaSlon, just how to make a shell script to run these commands, when one finishes, run another01:06
fsapodabaSlon, i want to leave it encoding before going to bed ^^01:07
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crimsunrhys-hynaws: look at lines 92 && 94 of /usr/bin/firefox01:07
dabaSlonyou can for example, just command && command && command && command...and as each finishes properly(hopefully) the other willl start01:07
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fsapodabaSlon, hum.. i think that is just it01:07
dabaSlonfsapo: you can as well, write a file, make the first line #! /usr/bin/bash01:07
rhys-hynawscrimsun, Oh! Thank you.01:08
fsapodabaSlon, hum.. i think i ll do it01:08
dabaSlonAnd then add the commands each on a separate line, and save, chmod +x it, and ./script it.01:08
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fsapodabaSlon, if i put each on separate lines i dont need the &&?01:08
rhys-hynawscrimsun, then do you have any idea why i get these: [debugger] 01:08
rhys-hynawsdebugger.enabled=on01:08
rhys-hynawsdebugger.profiler_enabled=on01:08
rhys-hynawsdebugger.hosts_allow=host1 host2 (host names or IP allowed to start debug sessions)01:08
rhys-hynawsdebugger.hosts_deny=ALL01:08
rhys-hynawsdebugger.ports=7869, 10000/1601:08
dabaSlonright, and if one of them fails, the rest will run anyhow.01:08
chrisHow do I install a driver in ubuntu?  I think I can find it, but I don't know how to install.01:08
rhys-hynawsoops sorry for theflood01:08
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dabaSlonfind it first, and tell us what it is...01:09
Razor-Xhey01:09
fsapodabaSlon, ok.. thanx that's all i need ^^01:09
Razor-Xi'm in Ubuntu now01:09
dabaSlonwelcome01:09
crimsunrhys-hynaws: I am not familiar with PHPEclipse01:09
dabaSlonsweet, got back from school, eh?01:09
metalsandI love Dell Taco01:09
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Razor-Xyeahp01:09
dabaSlonrhys-hynaws: I use Eclipse(the IDE??) and you just get their installer, run it, and it works.01:10
Razor-Xtime to install VLC01:10
rhys-hynawsdabaSlon, There is an Eclipse installer ? :O01:10
fsapodabaSlon, the first line is: #! /usr/bin/bash or #!/usr/bin/bash? or the space means nothing?01:10
dabaSlonmetalsand: does that mean it installed your wireless?01:10
dabaSlonspace01:10
dabaSlonuse it.01:10
rhys-hynawslol this may be the root of my problem lol dabaSlon01:10
dabaSloncool stuff.01:10
fsapodabaSlon, ok thanx01:10
dabaSlonok...01:11
dabaSlonrhys-hynaws: try finding their installer on their site.01:11
metalsandcrimsun: After I finish my lunch can you help me work on my card? ;)01:11
dabaSlonI gotta go back to the other computer to see how it is installing..01:11
dabaSlonheh01:11
rhys-hynawsdabaSlon, I downloaded: eclipse-SDK-3.0.2-linux-gtk.zip  ... is that not right?01:12
crimsunmetalsand: perhaps. I'm proctoring a final exam atm.01:12
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metalsandcrimsun: Haha, wow. For what?01:12
dabaSlonit is the Eclipse, yes, but PHPEclipse, I  dont know what that is.01:12
crimsunmetalsand: vulnerability assessment01:12
rhys-hynawsPHPEclipse is an Eclipse plugin01:12
panzanok... I think this is a direct hit against Ubuntu founder... "Dell Founder Invests $99.5M in Red Hat" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/dell_red_hat01:13
dabaSlonrhys-hynaws: cool, try that.01:13
scottanyone know how to convert a dvd to xvid or divx in ubuntu?01:13
metalsandcrimsun: What kind of class is that?01:13
dabaSlonwow, thats sure a lot of money.01:13
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dabaSlonscott: try ubunntuforums, and google, if noone knows, I suspect those two places know.01:14
metalsandpanzan: I saw that in Slashdot a few days ago01:14
metalsandA lot of money to just give away01:14
panzanguess.. Yahoo is a bit slow01:14
panzanhehehe01:14
Razor-Xwow, I feel like an idiot....01:14
dabaSlonyeah, well, they dont specialize in that...01:14
Razor-Xthis isthe first time i've forgotten the root password.....01:14
Razor-X*is the01:14
Razor-X-_-01:14
crimsunmetalsand: studies of buffer overflows, stack smashing, passive/active network attacks, and the like01:14
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dabaSlonRazor-X: there is none. It is your password.01:14
mebaran151Printing: Unable to open USB device "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800": No such device01:14
mebaran151I get this error whenever I print01:14
mebaran151how do I create this virtual device01:14
Razor-XdabaSlon: ohh, that's right!01:15
dabaSlonI know:)01:15
panzanis sudo a new concept introduced in ubuntu, or in debian?01:15
Razor-XI was.... thinking elsewhere during setup01:15
FlyingSquirrel32Where can I get a .deb for an older version of wine that was previously available???01:15
mebaran151sudo is a program taht wraps a command with root priveledges01:15
dabaSlonRazor-X: thats cool, a lot of those questions here...01:15
crimsunpanzan: with openbsd originally but targeted for all posix01:15
adb22791where does the live cd save information?01:15
mebaran151Ubuntu took a relatively progressive stance01:15
mebaran151by disabling root account01:15
Razor-Xyeah, well, I had to be sure that my parents didn't storm in during the install01:15
mebaran151the live CD doesnt01:16
dabaSlonadb22791: does it at all?01:16
hyphenatedpanzan: sudo has been around for a long time01:16
mebaran151but anyone here want to help me01:16
mebaran151ifix my printer01:16
adb22791so basically if i use the live cd i cant save anything01:16
panzanI never knew.... mandrake had a root account01:16
adb22791i thought it saved a small area on the harddisk for prefernces and updates01:16
dabaSlonis it installed in printers in administartion, under the system menu?01:16
hyphenatedpanzan: but it was only really known about by people that needed it's features01:16
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adb22791Does the Live CD Save any info on the harddrive?01:17
hyphenatedadb22791: only if you go out of your way to make it save things there01:18
hyphenatedadb22791: otherwise it won't even touch the drive01:18
adb22791is there documentation on that?01:18
panzanIm now on a mission to create my own distro on a live CD!01:18
FlyingSquirrel32I really need the .deb of Wine-20050419 any ideas where i can get it?01:18
panzanIt's going to take me 2 years!01:18
Burgundaviaadb22791, what sort are you lookin or?01:18
panzanlol01:18
panzanwish me luck!01:18
adb22791i like manuals the best01:19
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crimsununless it finds swap space (a swap signature, rather) on the HD01:19
kementeussomebody could install sonance in hoary?01:19
adb22791a page that explains what to do01:19
Razor-XFlyingSquirrel32: if there's an RPM, you could alien it01:19
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FlyingSquirrel32Razor-X, good idea... but i know there's already a .deb out there somewhere...01:19
adb22791i am new to debian and ubuntu01:20
Razor-XFlyingSquirrel32: just use Google then ;-P01:20
dabaSlonpanzan: haha, cool statement...01:20
adb22791Basically a completed documentation source on the live cd01:20
dabaSlonpanzan: its gonna take me 730 days...01:20
dabaSlonI have no plan, but, I know that is how long it will take me...01:20
FlyingSquirrel32Razor-X, tried that of course.01:21
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panzandabaSlon, are you mocking me? hehehehe01:21
panzanor are you serious?01:21
FlyingSquirrel32Razor-X, which rpm should I use ... one for suse, or one for rh01:21
Razor-XFlyingSquirrel32: i'ld asy RH01:22
metalsandHow often are new kernel versions out?01:22
pinSis it really necessary to have phpbb2 in the packages?01:23
hyphenatedmetalsand: when they're ready, or when there's a security issue that was fixed and needs an immediate patch01:23
pinSisnt it better to just install it manually like the good ole days01:23
FlyingSquirrel32Razor-X, we'll see.01:23
Razor-XI heard from someone that the extra repositories the guide people tell you to add may break a lot of stuff... is that true?01:23
Razor-Xbecause, then, I won't add em to my sources.list01:23
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adb22791i get this error: dpkg was interupted while trying to apt-get update01:23
panzan"Some 90 percent of murderers are mentally ill, a higher percentage than believed previously, according to a Swedish study."01:23
metalsandBS.01:23
pinSlol01:24
panzanhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050510/sc_afp/swedensciencemurderpsychiatry_05051017245901:24
adb22791lol someone help me01:24
adb22791oh wait i think i got it :)01:24
Burgundaviapanzan, please keep to Ubuntu on-topic things here01:24
metalsandslashdot > Google news > * > Yahoo news01:24
panzanBurgundavia, sure, sorry for that.01:24
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pinSmetalsand, LOL01:24
adb22791google kicks ass01:24
Razor-Xif I were to add repositories made for Debian, should I add Woody ones, or Sid ones?01:24
metalsandI'm trying to configure my network PCMCIA card01:24
panzantopix.net kicks ass01:24
crimsunmetalsand: I think you reversed the comparison operators ;)01:24
metalsandWho wants to help01:24
Razor-Xadb22791: more if you remember the internet before google01:25
metalsandcrimsun: You up for a headache?01:25
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adb22791yeha01:25
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crimsunmetalsand: I already have one, and I can't devote my full attention for another hour until this final is completed.01:25
Flavi may be missing something, but shouldn't this upgrade page mention dist-upgrade? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WartyUpgradeNotes01:25
adb22791http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo01:26
metalsandcrimsun: After I install HostAP is my card supposed to be automatically found?01:26
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adb22791will that work for saving my config on my hard disk?01:26
crimsunFlav: no, why would it?01:26
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psychonateIs there any way to start aterm without the window decorations (borderless)?01:27
crimsunFlav: update && dist-upgrade are assumed knowledge01:27
Flavcrimsun: i followed its notes and got ubuntu-base installed (server system, no X, so no ubuntu-desktop needed), but still needed to upgrade tons of other packages01:27
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crimsunFlav: feel free to amend them as necessary for clarity01:27
Flavcrimsun: ah, ok - i had just done "upgrade" and not "dist-upgrade" unfortunately01:28
CliekidGot a problem, when I try to load LimeWire, it says it can find a Java exec in the appropriate path...but then under it it says "/usr/java/j2re.../bin/java = Error.01:28
adb22791its debian good for dedicated servers?01:28
scottfor some reason ubuntu stopped mounting my dvds on my desktop, and when I go into media/cdrom it doesn't show anything, and totem can't play the dvd when I do play disc..but vlc plays it fine01:28
CliekidAnyone know what the problem may be on that? Its the Sun JRE...01:28
crimsunit's excellent, adb22791, just as Ubuntu is01:28
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kroIs there a util to try and scan a floppy and attempt to determine what filesystem is on it?01:29
JCooperis it possible to remove the text labels from just the nautilus browser toolbar?01:29
HrdwrBoBa floppy?01:29
HrdwrBoBmost likely to have FAT1201:29
panzan"Ubuntu Linux encourages sharing and copying" - http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3275743a28,00.html01:29
kroSomeone gave me a floppy, it may have come from an Amiga...  not sure what OS or what he formated the floppy with, but I'm having problems reading it01:29
Razor-Xkro: Amiga has it's own FS01:29
Razor-XI know Windows has some utilities to read it, and Linux must, just not familiar with 'em01:30
kroI was thinking there should be some util like "file", but for floppies.01:30
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metalsand2Freenode go down?01:32
metalsand2No... Weird, I wonder why I couldn't connect.01:32
metalsand2I could still browse the internet.01:32
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psychonateAre there any "unstable" versions of the packages that one can download? I need a newer version of aterm :(01:33
JCooperit should be relatively simple to compile aterm01:34
psychonategood point01:34
psychonateI'll try in a sec01:34
JCooperdoes ubuntu backports have anything newer?01:34
psychonateIn synaptic, what is the difference between removal and complete removal?01:35
psychonateconfig files?01:35
crimsunyes01:35
psychonateah, thanks01:35
crimsunit's the difference between remove and purge for dpkg01:35
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psychonateI haven't really used Debian much heh01:35
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sir-goldhas anyone gotten dual-monitor mode to work on a radeon card?01:38
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emineoi did01:39
N33Dh3lphello01:39
sir-goldi managed to get some wierd mode where the mouse works properly, but everything else is cloned instead of wide01:39
emineomines was cloned01:39
emineobut the second monitor was wide01:40
N33Dh3lp Is there a functional difference between downloading Kubuntu, as a seperate OS and installing it, and adding Kubuntu Desktop to an up to date hoary build?01:40
sir-goldand fglfxconfig writes to the wrong file for xorg, which is odd seeing as its in the ubuntu wiki01:40
sir-goldN33Dh3lp, no01:40
N33Dh3lpawesome01:41
N33Dh3lpthat will save me some time01:41
sir-goldother than you end up with both gnome and kde01:41
N33Dh3lpI Like having multiple WM's, each has its own perks01:42
metalsand2I love Prodigy01:42
metalsand2Peoples01:42
metalsand2How do I completely remove hostap?01:42
metalsand2I'm going to try wlan-ng over again now that I have no internal card01:42
N33Dh3lpI love how much better hoary has gotten in just the last couple of months01:42
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JCooperhow has it got betteR?01:42
N33Dh3lpI especially like the consolidated back ports repository for getting all of the restricted format stuff01:43
JCoopertrue, v helpful indeed01:43
BurgundaviaN33Dh3lp, that is not technically the Ubuntu people01:43
N33Dh3lpI know, but its still an advantage :)01:43
JCooperits a benefit of the good community surrounding ubuntu :)01:43
N33Dh3lpyes01:43
N33Dh3lpone thing that I think is funny is the stink some people have been raising about having Java available in a repository01:44
dockaneis there any good reason why cgoban does get listed in Applications->Games under gnome01:44
dockane*not01:44
dockane?01:44
N33Dh3lpI mean, as long as it forces them to agree to the EULA, what is the big deal01:44
JCooperit might not have a .desktop file01:44
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JCooperi agree... the same people that have issues with mono i guess01:44
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N33Dh3lpif anything it helps lower the bandwidth burden on Sun01:45
JCooperi cant believe apache are starting yet another OSS jre01:45
shido6i removed my trash from the lower right hand corner of my screen, oops... how do i add it back?01:45
N33Dh3lpI will be back01:46
JCoopershido6, right click on the panel, add to panel...01:46
metalsand2right click on the panel --> Add to panel01:46
metalsand2Select the trash icon01:46
gaussian88I hope this isn't a stupid question, but here goes:  If a deb package installed on debian, is it safe to say that it will also install on Ubuntu?01:46
cafuegoright click on the panel, click 'add to panel'01:46
cafuegogaussian88: No.01:46
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cafuegogaussian88: You forgot the 'probably'01:46
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gaussian88cafuego: Will debian packages EVER install on Ubuntu?01:47
gaussian88cafuego: ahhh   probably01:47
JCoopersome do01:47
gaussian88cafuego: greater then or less then 50% success?01:47
metalsand2Wonda the magical fish of the Gnome panel just said that I'm so boring I make her feet go to sleep.01:47
cafuegogaussian88: More likely they will exhibit dependency problems and generally make life difficult.01:47
gaussian88thought so01:47
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cafuegogaussian88: Easiest to fetch the debian source and rebuild the package on ubuntu.01:47
cafuegoThat way you can adjust depends too.01:48
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gaussian88I found that once the multiverse and universe are "unleashed", shortage of packages shouldn't be a problem.   However, it's always those 1 or 2 packages that get ya01:48
gaussian88I guess I'll compile them myself then.    yuk01:48
metalsand2Children01:48
metalsand2How do I remove a module01:48
metalsand2and delete its directory'01:48
cafuegoit's trivial with dpkg-buildpackage01:48
gaussian88I can have some guys in my company roll a few packages for Ubuntu I guess.01:48
cafuegometalsand2: man rmmod, grandpa01:49
gaussian88I guess I should ask --> anyone here have NXCLIENT on Ubuntu running yet?01:49
Burgundaviagaussian88, why company?01:49
cafuegoWhat is nxclient?01:49
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gaussian88nxclient ~= Citrix, but for Linux and it's free free free    ;)01:49
gaussian88it's my company and we are a Linux shop.  so we have guys that can roll a few packages01:50
cafuegoOh, I just use gnome-tsc01:50
FlyingSquirrel32Razor-X, I think it's gonna work. I'll have to finish tomorrow. Thanks!01:50
darmouhow do I add people to groups using the command line, for some reason the ui tool has gone bung on me:(01:50
metalsand2cafuego: After I've rmmod the module01:50
gaussian88we're switching a few of our customers over to the fabulous world of Ubuntu01:50
metalsand2Do I need to clean anything up01:50
Burgundaviagaussian88, debian sid stuff might install on ubuntu01:50
metalsand2folders or remains of the file?01:50
Burgundaviagaussian88, but I would roll your own01:50
cafuegometalsand2: maybe01:50
metalsand2Well01:50
metalsand2How would I go about doing that01:51
metalsand2The module is hostap01:51
cafuegometalsand2: Check which hostap-related packages are installed and remove them?01:51
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cafuegometalsand2: Easiest to do via synaptic probably, if you're in X.01:52
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metalsand2Should I remove or complete remove?01:52
metalsand2:x01:52
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cafuegocomplete remove will also purge config files01:52
zoddani have added my WLAN-card to interfaces but it wont connect at boot :(01:53
ubuntuhi all01:53
metalsand2So, that's probably a good ideA?01:53
ubuntuthi's a good linux distro:901:53
FlyingSquirrel32cafuego, where can I learn about creating packages?01:53
zoddani must do it by my self everytime i start01:53
zoddanhow can i fix this ?01:53
BurgundaviaFlyingSquirrel32, debian new maintainers guide01:53
cafuegoFlyingSquirrel32: probably the best place to start is the new maintainer's guide on debian.org01:53
FlyingSquirrel32cafuego thx01:53
cafuegohttp://nm.debian.org/01:53
zoddananyone? :)01:53
Razor-Xah hah!01:54
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cafuegometalsand2: if you don't want to use it anymore, with that configuration... yeah01:54
Razor-XI now have VLC!01:54
nate__sup01:54
cafuegolspci01:54
Razor-Xwhich means, my media problems are solved with no codecs01:54
AmaranthRazor-X: It's the best. :)01:54
nate__anyone know how to restart the ssh daemon?01:55
crimsunnate__: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart01:55
nate__Razor-X: codecs are a breeze01:55
cafuegoAwright01:55
Razor-XAmaranth: yeah, but it was 40 GB, because Kubuntu doesen't have gtklib01:55
Razor-Xnate__: that, and I like VLC too01:55
AmaranthMB01:55
Razor-X*MB01:55
Razor-X;-P01:55
nate__crimsun: it gives me: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh -restart01:55
nate__Password:01:55
nate__ * Usage: /etc/init.d/ssh {start|stop|reload|force-reload|restart}01:55
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cafuegonate__: Well, that seems clear enough.01:56
Razor-XVLC for Linux seems way faster than its Windows counterpart, mmmmmm01:56
AmaranthI should get him to roll his version with WMV3 support into a deb01:56
nate__oh no -01:56
nate__ha!01:56
Razor-Xnow, i'm gonna try and get gtk-qt01:56
cafuegonate__: See how the usage info doesn't list "-restart' ?01:56
cafuegowoo, it boots :-)01:57
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metalsand2ror: temporary failed naming something or rather01:58
metalsand2fail01:58
metalsand2How do I "repair" that so it doesn't fail everytime I boot?01:59
difetahow can I make my $PATH include /opt/somedir/bin ?01:59
goldfishdifeta: export PATH=$PATH:/opt/somedir/bin01:59
difetagoldfish, yeah, but how can i preserve that setting for every terminal in X?01:59
goldfishstick it in .bashrc01:59
goldfishor em02:00
goldfishhmmm02:00
difetagoldfish, it doesnt seem to work in .bashrc02:00
goldfishah right :/02:00
difetagoldfish, in fact i have it in /etc/profile and it doesnt work in X02:00
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Dave9191czesc marcin :)02:01
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testuserSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed02:02
testuser.02:02
zoddandoes anyone know how to get wlan to work in ubuntu ?02:03
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crimsunzoddan: ideally you just turn on the machine02:05
zoddancrimsun no shit :)02:05
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crimsun(watch the language, please)02:06
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crimsunit'd be immensely helpful if you provided symptoms02:06
zoddani have added the nic to interfaces but i wont start at boot02:06
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zoddani have to do i manually02:06
zoddanto get it to connect02:07
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crimsunare you using Warty or Hoary?02:07
zoddanHoary02:07
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zoddanis it a bug or what ?02:08
rhys-hynawsCan anyone help me get the internal browser working in Eclipse ?02:08
mz2oh grand, backports work again02:08
spidnaany gotten xmms on ubuntu 5.402:09
crimsunzoddan: paste your /etc/network/interfaces in #flood02:09
crimsunspidna: sure, it's in main. What's up?02:09
zoddancrimsun: there is not mutch02:09
zoddanjust 3 lines for the wlan02:10
spidnajust can't apt-get it02:10
Razor-Xwhere is Firefox installed to?02:10
crimsunspidna: is the main repo enabled?02:10
crimsunRazor-X: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox02:10
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Razor-Xcool02:10
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rhys-hynawsCan anyone help me get the internal browser working in Eclipse ?02:10
zoddancrimsun: done02:10
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spidnaCrimsun where would i find that02:11
crimsunspidna: System>Administration>Synaptic>Settings>Repositories02:11
crimsunzoddan: ok02:11
crimsunzoddan: are you saying that the iface isn't brought up on boot? If so, that's easily resolved. Add "auto eth1" to /etc/network/interfaces02:12
zoddancrimsun: i have but that didnt help02:12
zoddancrimsun: it is not connecting to my AP anyway :(02:13
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crimsunzoddan: have you used the wifi troubleshooting guide(s) on the wiki?02:13
crimsunzoddan: particularly with iwconfig, etc.?02:13
zoddancrimsun: the Link LED is flashing but it wont connect so i have to take out the card and restart the nic to get it to work02:13
zoddancrimsun: i use iqconfig to set essid and so on02:14
zoddanw02:14
spidnacrimsun it appears to be enable02:14
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zoddancrimsun so i have to do it manually :(02:15
zoddancrimsun: is it some bug or what ?02:15
crimsunspidna: paste in #flood the output of apt-cache policy xmms02:15
crimsunzoddan: did you use the network config tool?02:15
crimsunzoddan: System>Administration>Networking02:15
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Flavwhat's the way to list just the currently installed packages besides dpkg -l|grep ^ii02:17
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zoddancrimsun yes that to02:17
zoddancrimsun nothing helps02:18
zoddancrimsun: onyl works when i do it by my self after the boot02:18
crimsunFlav: dpkg -l   by itself suffices02:18
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Flavcrimsun: that shows some packages in "rc" mode.  Is there a way to purge the config files of these removed but not purged packages?02:18
crimsunsure, use shell scripting02:19
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zoddanwhen is the new ubuntu comming out ?02:19
crimsunzoddan: Oct02:19
zoddanmaybe my wlan will work in that02:20
zoddanaha :(02:20
Flavcrimsun: what's the command to remove just the config files?  apt-get remove --purge doesn't work, of course02:20
crimsunFlav: dpkg -P foo02:20
Flavcrimsun: danke02:20
zoddancrimsun how about if i make a script that runs at boot ?02:20
crimsunzoddan: sure, whatever works for you. File a bug in bugzilla if it's broken.02:21
zoddanok02:21
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=== Flav tries dpkg -l|grep ^rc|awk '{print $2}' |xargs sudo dpkg -P
zoddanwell i have done everything i can come up with02:21
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zoddanbut it wont connect02:21
Deffieubuntu has any kernel-source package with the default configuration ?02:21
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zoddanmaybe the iwconfig is not loaded when it tryes to connect or something02:21
zoddanit starts the nic but it is not setting the essid and so on02:21
zoddanmybe thats the problem02:22
crimsundo you have a mapping section in /etc/network/interfaces?02:22
zoddanhum02:22
zoddani think so02:22
zoddanwhy ?02:22
crimsunensure that you do.02:23
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zoddancrimsun yep i have02:24
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crimsunthen file a bug in bugzilla02:24
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testuseranyone run mythtv?02:27
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Flavcrimsun: some of the package names are so long they get truncated in dpkg -l output - any way to get them to print with their full name in dpkg -l?02:29
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Deffieany info/url/doc about rebuilding ubuntu's kernel ?02:31
SpAwNis ubuntu free02:31
Deffieyes it is02:31
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SpAwNWOO HOO02:31
Deffiechech http://www.ubuntulinux.org02:31
Deffie*check02:32
SpAwNLater02:32
SpAwNbye bye02:32
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Flavcrimsun: it seems to be when the output is redirected - hmm02:33
Jibbyhow do I add a directory to my path?02:34
FlavJibby: with which shell? export PATH=/some/dir:$PATH for bash02:35
zoddancrimsun: eth1 was not under the mapping section, do i have to add ?02:35
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JibbyFlaw: yes bash - do i change /etc/profile ?02:36
Razor-Xafter you edit menu.lst in GRUB02:36
Razor-Xdo you have to specify a command for it to load the new menu.lst?02:37
Razor-X(like in LILO)02:37
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DeffieRazor-X grub-install /dev/device02:38
Razor-XI have to do that, again?02:38
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Deffieevery time you modify menu.lst02:39
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Deffieit is like "lilo" after modifyng /etc/lilo.conf02:39
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Deffie*modifying02:39
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Razor-Xoh, ok02:39
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Razor-Xdone ;)02:40
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JormundgandIn XChat can I pipe the result of a command into a file like in a console?02:42
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goldfishyou could try /exec command > file maybe02:43
goldfishthat works on irssi02:43
goldfishdunno about xchat02:44
rymanman02:44
rymanI'm sick of firefox02:44
rymanit keeps crashing02:44
rymanmy ubuntu keep freezing02:44
rymanis there any better web browser02:44
concept10anyone here ever setup mambo server?02:45
DeffieJormundgand about pipeping, try something simple to try if works like /exec ps aux | grep xchat02:45
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FlavHow can I get dpkg to "force" a removal when postrm scripts are failing, but I don't care?02:45
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goldfishryman: Internet Explorer.02:45
rymangoldfish, lol02:45
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Deffieryman firefox isnt that bad, really; but if you want you can try epiphany02:45
resiakGaleon!02:45
rymanlike when I right click on the pix on a website02:45
rymanthen i click "view image"02:46
rymanit crashed firefox02:46
nate__i've had firefox crash, but mostly when i'm attempting stupid stuff, or simply overloading it02:46
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rymandoes your ubuntu freeze ?02:46
nnonixnever02:46
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nnonixor, never (yet)02:46
rymanhmm maybe there is osmehitng wrong with my hard drive or something02:46
JormundgandDeffie: I want to store the results of a /list command in a file, or in a tab for viewing separately. As is it displays in the channel window and overflows the buffer.02:46
resiakFlav: "fix" the postrm scripts?02:47
Deffieryman as resiak sayis galeon or epiphany, they are the same, one is older the other is newer but i dont remember which of the 2 is the newer02:47
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Deffiei've been using epiphany because firefox was too big for my old pc02:48
Deffiethey are lighter02:48
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concept10I have installed mysql 4.0.23 on a fresh install of ubuntu, what do I have to do next to setup mysql to make ready for Mambo CMS?02:49
JormundgandIf I want to uninstall a manually installed version of Firefox (which is, for sake of argument, in /home/ketsuban/firefox) how would I uninstall it?02:49
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shad0w1eis GRUB compatible with Linux being on an XFS partition?02:50
DeffieJormundgand you can simply delete it if it isnt referenced by anything important02:50
raizOk, can someone check my sintax real quick?  I'm not even sure that this will work...02:50
raizdeb ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware02:50
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raizIf I add that to my scources list I should be able to download the whole thing right?02:51
raizusing apt-get...02:51
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Deffieraiz it should be deb ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware but with that host/ftp it will probably wont work02:52
raizWhy with that host?02:52
raizWhat's wrong with them?02:53
Deffieraiz because afaik slackware ftp doesnt contains deb packages nor has an apt-suitable structure02:53
raizAh...02:53
raizOk.02:53
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raizIs there any way I can get around that?  (Please don't say bittorrents...;.;)02:54
Deffieraiz check your query window02:55
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raizOk.  Thanks.02:55
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rymanthanks guys ... I will try them out02:56
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mr_roboto Jormundgand: how about "rm -rf /home/ketsuban/firefox && rm -rf /home/ketsuban/.mozilla"02:57
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Jormundgandmr_roboto: deleting the folder seems to have had the desired effect.02:57
mr_robotoJormundgand: the second folder (.mozilla/firefox) is where the profiles and cache stuff is stored. if you leave that it will be eating disk unnecessarily02:58
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JormundgandAnd that won't interfere with regular package Firefox's settings?02:59
mr_robotoJormundgand: oh... well yes :)   i thought you said you installed it manually. didn't know you did BOTH02:59
JormundgandI removed one, installed t'other, hated the non-transparent logo, switched back.03:00
mr_robotoahhh03:00
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mark345anyone here using gnome 2.10.1?03:01
Deffieanyone knows where to get ubuntu kernel sources ?03:02
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resiakDeffie: apt-cache search linux-source ?03:04
Deffieresiak i tried but theres only 2.4.X03:04
Deffieresiak i'm looking for 2.6...i can get the vanilla kernel but isnt that easy to reproduce ubuntu default kernel config03:05
Deffieresiak i'm looking if the default kernel config is accessible through ikconfig03:08
batkins_does ubuntu use the same packages as debian?03:09
batkins_when i do an apt-get, do the packages come from debian or ubuntu?03:09
HrdwrBoByes and no03:09
resiakNo, just a no.03:09
Deffiebatkins_ they come from ubuntu03:09
resiakThe packages come from Ubuntu, unless you've done very silly things.03:09
resiakWTF, packages.u.c is down.03:10
batkins_i haven't changed anything, just curious03:10
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Deffieresiak hoary's kernel doesnt have ikconfig/config.gz support i'm subscribing to the ubuntu kernel mailing list to ask for that, it will be useful03:12
resiakDeffie: Go for it.03:12
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hyphenatedkudos to ubuntu (hoary).. it got my laptop's resolution correct without any extra work on my part. it's a weird widescreen resolution03:14
snetx10well i wish it would properly configure my dual-monitor setup automatically03:14
snetx10or rather, even manually would be nice... not workin for me03:14
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hyphenatedsnetx10: there's a forum to have a browse through, to see if someone has had that same problem, and found a solution03:17
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snetx10yeah its just tough because nobody has the exact same two monitors that i have, with the same video card, with ubuntu hoary03:19
danielsdual-monitors are *hard* to get right03:19
nopeaafter moving a file to the trash and emptying it there is still a file with the same name ending with ~ when I browse for a file inside programs etc.  What is this?03:20
nopeaalso in the terminal too03:20
goldfisha backup maybe?03:20
tritiumnopea, some programs, especially editors, leave backup files like that03:20
nopeathey are hidden? they dont start with '.'03:21
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Burgundavianopea, they are not hidden03:22
Burgundavianopea, they exist for very good reasons03:22
Jormundgandhttp://www.ketsuban.net/images/backgrounds/Minimalistic_Black_and_White.jpg - Do there exist any backgrounds like this one - same style?03:22
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nopeaBurgundavia, and that reason is?03:23
Burgundavianopea, say you edit your sources.list or your xorg.conf and then it breaks03:23
Burgundaviait is very easy to 'mv blah~ blah' than figure out what you have borked03:24
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nopeaBurgundavia, ok so backup files... but they are hidden03:25
Deffienopea many times such files gets removed on correct editor termination, are you killing -9 or "forcing quits" ?03:25
Burgundavianopea, no ~ are not hidden03:25
nopeaDeffie, somtimes gphpedit crashes03:25
Burgundaviagedit leaves them behind by default03:26
raizWhere is java on your system?03:26
nopeaBurgundavia, what I am saying is that even tho they are say in my Desktop directory they do not appear on my Desktop - or in other directories they exsist in my home directory03:26
shad0w1eanyone here know why I cant get GRUB working on my XFS linux partition?03:26
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raizMine doesn't return anything when I use whereis... or locate, or find...03:27
Burgundavianopea, hmm03:27
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Deffienopea i dont know gphpedit, try to figure if the files you found have been edited eith gphpedit03:27
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raizshadow, what partitions do you have?03:27
shad0w1egrub-install says "not a block device"03:27
nopeaI think I have some left behind by Bluefish too - but that doesnt crash03:27
shad0w1eI have 2 partitions. hde1 (xfs, /) and hde2 (swap)03:28
pschulz01Greetings - hoary CD's..03:28
raiznot a block device?  Ok, are you in ubuntu?03:28
shad0w1eraiz: I booted off the install CD, let it detect my hardware, then mounted my drive, and chrooted into it03:28
pschulz01I was sent the previous verison.. do I need to request more or will they be automatically sent out?03:28
Deffienopea they arent displayed from the gui because gnome filemanager recognizes them as backups, maybe theres an option in preferences or in gconf03:29
raizOk, so you are in ubuntu.03:29
shad0w1eraiz: yes03:29
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raizDid you remember to mount on /03:29
shad0w1eraiz: what do you mean03:29
nopeaDeffie, cool thanks03:29
nate__anyone familiar with keychain who can help me set it up?03:29
shad0w1eyou mean in my fstab?03:30
raizUm, well, it wanted me to mount on / when I installed.03:30
shad0w1emy fstab is fine. it came from another system03:30
raizOk.03:30
raizTry this in a terminal.03:30
nopeaDeffie, yes you are right its a setting in the File Managment pref.03:30
raizless /boot/grub/menu.lst03:30
shad0w1eI copied all the files over. this used to be an ext2 system but I copied the contents onto an XS partition03:30
raizTell me what that returns.03:30
shad0w1emy menu.lst is fine03:30
Deffienopea and maybe the editors too have some option regarding the creation of them03:31
Deffienopea sorry i'm not that good in english i take some time to write :)03:31
raizOk, so when is it giving you this error?03:31
nopeaDeffie, yeah I am going to look into that.... not a huge issue now that I know what they are03:31
nopeaDeffie, thats ok ;-)03:31
shad0w1egrub-install /dev/hde103:32
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shad0w1eI get ERROR: hde1 is not a block device03:32
mebaran151I have a printer prbolem03:32
raizAh, printer problems...03:32
mebaran151Printing: Unable to open USB device "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800": No such device03:32
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Deffieshad0w1e maybe the errors are in /etc/mtab /etc/fstab03:32
mebaran151how od I make that device work03:32
mebaran151it is a virtual device03:32
mebaran151that should link to /dev/usb/lp003:33
raizHave you tried just... doing what he just said...03:33
mebaran151but I dont know how to link it03:33
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nopeamy printer just spits out empty paper one after another in Ubuntu - never had luck setting up my printer03:33
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raizOpen computer, systemconfig, printing, try to auto detect the printer...03:33
shad0w1ehow about this: I run grub.03:34
shad0w1ewhen I type in root(hd0,0) I get "selected disk doesnt exist"03:34
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BrettMeisterWell..I've encountered a prob that I haven't had before.  I'm having trouble on my newl-installed 5.04 Ubuntu machine with getting authentication to happen on XChat.03:35
Xanaduwow there are a lot of ppl here03:35
lampshadeXanadu, the other night we had 500+03:35
Xanadusheesh!03:35
shad0w1eraiz: my fstab and mtab seem fine03:35
Xanaduand u all use ubuntu?03:36
mebaran151raiz, tried taht03:36
BrettMeisterKeep getting the message "No identd (auth) response", then, next line: "USER: Not enough parameters.03:36
mebaran151this is an autodetected printer03:36
nate__would anyone with knowledge of keychain please help me set it up?03:36
raizmeb, your printer has to be on before your computer.03:36
BrettMeisterIdeas, anyone? :-)03:36
nopeaproblem about autodetect is that the model is sometimes not in the list03:37
DeffieBrettMeister some times it depends on the ircd, try passing /quote or /raw (i dont remember which uses xchat) pass <password> manually and then add the command to the on connect commands03:37
Xanaduum ok new here so hope i'm not breaking protocol but i do have a question03:37
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Deffienopea which printer do you have ?03:38
Cranehello03:38
BrettMeisterDeffie: Thanks.  I'm trying to get to here and have had no trouble before now.  I'm using Konversation right now on my MEPIS machine.03:38
mebaran151it was03:38
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mebaran151my pritner is always on03:38
nopeamy printer is an Epson - which I bought in Japan... in the rest of the world its a 'Stylus Photo' or something like that - but here its a PM-G800 and thats Japan only so its not on the list03:38
mebaran151it is an R80003:38
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Xanaduhow do you split one machine into two machines? i've figured out how to get two terminals going with GDM, can split the mice, but when it comes down to the keyboards i'm stuck03:38
mebaran151I have Gutenprint 5.0 running as the driver03:38
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mebaran151Xanadu03:38
Xanaduoh i'm a newbie so please use small words03:38
raizAnd you selected the drivers from the disk?03:38
mebaran151no03:39
mebaran151make compiled one03:39
mebaran151the latest version of Gimp-Print03:39
mebaran151the driver is not the problem though03:39
raizUm...03:39
mebaran151because this is a device error03:39
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raizok.03:39
mebaran151the device should be findable03:39
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mebaran151perhaps the '%20' is not being made into a space or something03:40
Razor-Xholycow: i'm in Ubuntu ;)03:40
batkins_what package is wine in?03:40
ubuntuexcuse me all of you, can i ask a question? how much in seconds does your system boot up?03:40
Deffienopea yep as mebaran151 says, have you tried gimp-print ?03:40
holycowRazor-X, nice :)03:40
^thehatsrule^hey Razor-X ;p03:40
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holycowhow long did your install take?03:40
raizAh, that could be.03:40
vigilantycan anybody help me?03:40
Razor-Xless than 20 ;-P03:40
Razor-Xi'ld say, 1503:40
raizubuntu 20...03:40
mebaran151vigilanty, what app03:40
holycow*ding*03:40
holycowtoldja :)03:40
vigilantyanything03:40
nopeaDeffie, yes thats what the driver gets set to03:40
mebaran151at terminal type gksudo synaptic03:40
mebaran151use your passwd03:40
ubuntui don't use ubuntu i'd like to know if the kernel is heavy?03:41
Xanaduhmm no one helping me either vigilante03:41
raizubuntu: in windows, ten min. =p03:41
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mebaran151and bam you have 15 thou of apps03:41
Razor-Xand, NTFS resizing took about 15 minutes03:41
mebaran151the kernel is a bit fix03:41
DonLubuntu, I'd say about 20 seconds03:41
batkins_can i install wine with apt-get?03:41
holycowhaha windows users never believe me you can get a full desktop and tons of apps installed in less than 2003:41
Deffienopea it is attached to usb or parallel ?03:41
mebaran151yeah you can03:41
Razor-Xubuntu: no, not at all03:41
mebaran151usb03:41
nopeaDeffie, USB03:41
mebaran151i believe03:41
vigilantyok03:41
holycowyeah that doesn't count tho, neither does configuration as each network config sys config are different03:41
mebaran151Xanadu03:41
vigilantynot sure what u just said though03:41
mebaran151it is a little harder than you think it will be03:41
Razor-Xholycow: well, i'm not a Windows user, but, yeah, I didn't believe it ;-P03:41
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mebaran151you have to apply a couple kernel patches03:42
Xanadumebaran151 don't worry i know - i've been battlign for days03:42
mebaran151to make it multiple keyboard friendly03:42
Xanaduarg! patches!03:42
holycowRazor-X, welcome to linux, enjoy your stay :)03:42
Xanadui can never get patches to work on ubuntu for some reason03:42
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Deffienopea sincerely i dont know the printer or its problems with linux but trying with parallel port might help03:42
nopeaDeffie, if I recall it did this in Fedora too03:42
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americanLokihi all03:42
ubuntuwhen it boots up, does it try to prode much modules?03:42
nopeaDeffie, thanks buts its USB 2 only :(03:42
raizwhere is java on your system?  Mine seems to be misplaced...03:42
Razor-Xholycow: I doubt i'll be leaving any time soon ;-P03:43
transgressyeah i'm aware there is a wiki for skype, but i've got it all set up and running, but i can't get anyone to hear me with it... and my mic works fine in TeamSpeak... anyone got a suggestion?03:43
Xanaduok megaran151 start at the beginning: how do you apply a patch correctly in ubuntu?03:43
ubuntuwhen it boots up, does it try to prode much modules?03:43
holycowRazor-X, that is the general tendency, windows is a horrible environment to haveto use03:43
^thehatsrule^Razor-X, time for a game of tetrinet?03:43
holycowexcept for games03:43
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Lathiatubuntu: Hi03:43
ubuntudoes it display in framebuffer?03:44
Lathiatubuntu: could you please reprase your question03:44
Razor-X^thehatsrule^: yes! although, not today03:44
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Razor-Xdo I have to add anything to my sources.list?03:44
Razor-Xso, i'll have it setup to play tomorrow03:44
Lathiatubuntu: Most hardware is auto-deteted and appropriate modules loaded03:44
Razor-X(dad will come home soon :\)03:44
Lathiatubuntu: and framebuffers are not used by default03:44
ubuntuwhen the kernel is loading, does it try to prode much modules?03:44
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vigilantyhow do i install apps that i download off of the net, like opera or trillian?03:44
ih8evilWhat packages do I use to install wine?03:44
Lathiatih8evil: just the wine package03:45
Lathiatvigilanty: it depends what you download03:45
ih8evilI tried that03:45
DonLubuntu, I always try to turn on any peripherals when booting, and have had good luck so far03:45
Lathiatvigilanty: the easiest way is to get a .deb package03:45
ubuntuat the installation, do we have to configure the kernel we're installing?03:45
Razor-Xnope03:45
vigilantyLathiat, let's say i download opera03:45
Lathiatvigilanty: trillian will not run, that is a windwos program03:45
batkins_Lathiat: i tired sudo apt-get install wine, didn't work03:45
vigilantyhow do i make it work with this os?03:45
Razor-Xyou can take a look at the install guide03:45
Xanaduvigilanty: click System, Administration, Synaptec Package Management03:45
Lathiatbatkins_: Have you enabled the universe repository?03:45
batkins_Lathiat: nope03:45
Xanaduvigilanty: enter your root password03:45
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batkins_Lathiat: how do i do that?03:45
vigilantyok03:46
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Lathiatbatkins_: go system->adminitration->synaptic03:46
Razor-Xvigilanty: you can't, but there are alternatives, such as, GAIM, or Kopete03:46
ubuntuor it installs a default kernel as fedora or other do?03:46
Lathiatbatkins_: settings->preferences03:46
Lathiatbatkins_: add03:46
Razor-Xwell, you maybe can, but, i'm not sure...03:46
Lathiatbatkins_: check universe, multiverse03:46
Xanaduvigilanty: click reload03:46
Razor-Xnot exactly the WINE expert03:46
Lathiatbatkins_: hit ok to everything adn reload03:46
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Xanaduvigilanty: search and tick whatever you want, and click apply03:46
DonLSynaptic's great03:47
Xanaduvigilanty: once it's done, hit Alt-F2 and type "killall gnome-panel" to reload your menus03:47
ubuntudo you all use the same kernel, you guess?03:47
raizXanadu: Where are your java files stored?03:47
rhys-hynawsIs anyone else having problems with Open Office--ubuntu-stable, and it freezing up often, especially when one clicks on a misspelled word?03:47
Razor-Xholycow: where's Firefox located on the system?03:47
vigilantyit didn't find it03:47
raizMine seem to have walked off...03:47
Xanaduraiz: on my Puter. Why?03:47
DonLXanadu, Alt-escape does that too03:47
Razor-Xubuntu: some people use different kernels03:47
raizlol03:47
ubuntuok!03:48
vigilantyRazor-x, why can't I?03:48
XanaduDonl: kewl!03:48
ubuntuhuman distribution, not like gentoo :d03:48
batkins_Lathiat: i don't see Add in preferences03:48
holycowRazor-X, you mean installed or in the menu?03:48
Razor-Xor, anyone, where's Firefox located on the system?03:48
ubuntuthx03:48
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goldfishRazor-X: 'locate firefox'03:48
raizBecause I need to source them.03:48
Razor-Xvigilanty: Windows programs don't work in linux03:48
vigilantyAt opera's download page, there is a version of it for download for ubuntu03:48
Razor-Xgoldfish: doh!03:48
batkins_Razor-X: the executable is /usr/bin/firefox normally03:48
holycowwhat goldfish said03:48
rhys-hynawsRazor-X, try /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox03:48
holycowboth are correct03:49
rhys-hynawsIs anyone else having problems with Open Office--ubuntu-stable, and it freezing up often, especially when one clicks on a misspelled word?03:49
holycowand manuals are in another directory ... i forget which03:49
Lathiatbatkins_: repostiroeies, not preferences03:49
holycowhelp files i mean03:49
Razor-Xahh,, then I believe Kubuntu doesen't come with Firefox03:49
Lathiatbatkins_: my bad, i said the wrong word03:49
Razor-Xah well, Konqueror is nice enough for me03:49
Xanadudon't listen to them Razor-X: /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox03:49
holycowRazor-X, do ctrl / l in the konq window03:49
raizXanadu: because I need to source my java files.03:49
Razor-XXanadu: tried that too03:49
rhys-hynawsRazor-X, Kubuntu is kde using Conquerorinstead of firefox03:49
Razor-Xthat's what I thought03:49
holycowtheres another shortcut for splitting it the other way too03:49
ubuntua friend of mine tried ubuntu and just after the installation, some application didn't work, i.e: mozilla was loading but always crashed. can someone tell me the issue?03:50
Razor-Xnow I have to look up Java in Konqueror03:50
Xanadurazor-x: try "which firefox"03:50
Lathiatubuntu: Well the issue could be a number of things03:50
Lathiatubuntu: Was this a hoary install ?03:50
ubuntuyeah03:50
rhys-hynawsUbuntu... they had a shittycomputer, or they wereusing bad sources.03:50
holycowUbuntico, never heard of that problem, what are his system specs?03:50
Xanaduraiz have u installed java? it's quite a mission03:50
ubuntunone of these...03:50
Lathiatubuntu: The odds are its a hardware problem03:50
Lathiatubuntu: Is it an x86 computer?03:50
raizI'm not sure...03:50
Xanaduraiz: doesn't come standard with ubuntu03:50
rhys-hynawsIs anyone else having problems with Open Office--ubuntu-stable, and it freezing up often, especially when one clicks on a misspelled word?03:51
ubuntuthat was a standard installation on a good computer :s03:51
DonLXanadu, yes, I wish Java was easier to install03:51
raizI did install some java stuff a while ago...03:51
holycowrhys-hynaws, not me :/03:51
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Lathiatubuntu: I recommend he hit escape at the ubuntu loading menu (its a count down before boot), and choose 'memtest86' and let that run for a few hours03:51
Razor-XXanadu: tried it, but , no luck03:51
raizSo how did you do it?03:51
BurgundaviaDonL, blame Sun03:51
rhys-hynawsholycow ty03:51
Lathiatubuntu: If that doesn't work, they would need to join so I can try figure the problem out with them03:51
mebaran151anyone want to help me a fix a virtual printer device03:51
holycowDonL, its super easy, add reposityr, apt-get install java or whatever?03:51
Xanadu/usr/bin/java03:51
mebaran151it is not a task for the fait at heart03:51
Razor-XLathiat: Ubuntu doesen't default hide boot menu03:51
DonLholycow, never saw that. The easiest I found was the unofficial Ubuntu03:52
LathiatRazor-X: it does if you don't have windows installed03:52
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vigilantymaybe I'm not asking my question correctly...  How am i to install the Ubuntu version of Opera?03:52
Lathiatvigilanty: Goto the ubuntu site03:52
holycowDonL, its on the website, 1.5 jre is now packaged for ubuntu03:52
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Lathiatvigilanty: errr, opera site03:52
vigilantyok03:52
Lathiatvigilanty: download the .deb debian package03:52
ubuntuyou know, that person already installed gentoo, fedora and other distribution with success...03:52
vigilantydone03:52
Lathiatvigilanty: then as root in a console03:52
Lathiatvigilanty: sudo dpkg -i <file>03:52
DonLholycow, that's what I'm using, 1.503:52
Lathiatvigilanty: you may need to, after that, run apt-get -f install03:52
Lathiatvigilanty: if it fails03:52
Xanaduraiz: do you want the java plugin for firefox or the whole jre or the sdk?03:52
Razor-XLathiat: oh, woops ;-P03:52
ubuntuhe was looking the distro that matches his needs...03:53
raizjre03:53
Razor-Xvigilanty: Ubuntu doesen't have Opera03:53
vigilantyunh hunh03:53
raizI'm trying to get azureus to work.03:53
Razor-Xbut, Linux does ;-P03:53
holycowDonL, the general rule of thumb in debian world is wait a while, everything gets packaged eventually, and never use non packaged installation methods ... those can be tedious to clean up03:53
Lathiatubuntu: It is unfortunate that is happening03:53
ubuntusimple to use, easy to maintain...03:53
Razor-X(i'm an Opera fan too, by the way)03:53
DonLanybody worried about the new flaws found in Firefox?03:53
Lathiatubuntu: However, those sorts of problems can't be diagnosed with a simple description of "it crashes"03:53
ubuntui know, one day, i experienced the same problem on mandrake lol03:53
BurgundaviaDonL, not really03:53
vigilantyrazor-X, there IS a version of opera available for dowload from the Opera website.03:53
Lathiatubuntu: I would need mroe information, like where the CD came from, what they have done after install, what applications crash when doing what03:54
DonLI understand, holycow . Found out about unsupported installs03:54
holycowubuntu, nothing simpler than ubuntu, but ... its hard to guess what the issue is without him either being here or someone having a looksee at the box03:54
Lathiatubuntu: and then03:54
Xanaduraiz: for that you just need the jre plugin for firefox i think03:54
raizAnd it seems to want something in /usr/java  it points me to the JRE 1.4.x03:54
Lathiatubuntu: if i could help them live to get some extra information if i can't figure it out from that03:54
Xanaduraiz: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre03:54
Razor-Xholycow: if I were to download a for Debian package, hsould it be for Sarge or Woody? (or Potato?)03:54
Lathiatubuntu: its possible for example03:54
Lathiatubuntu: they installed the 686 kernel on a non 686 machine03:54
Lathiatubuntu: or something03:54
raizThat's what I've been working with...03:54
Razor-Xvigilanty: hold on while I look up the specifics of Opera for Linux03:54
BurgundaviaRazor-X, sid03:54
mebaran151I've gone a around the pkg manager before03:54
Lathiatubuntu: many things are possible03:54
ubuntuhave you never seen an application laoding in the window bar and never come in front of you to finally disapper :s03:54
holycowneither, ubuntu is unstable, your taking yoru chances either way03:54
Razor-XBurgundavia: ok03:54
rhys-hynawsWhere is the 3rd Party applicationsprogram thigner?03:54
mebaran151use checkinstall normally03:54
mebaran151but somethings dont work out03:54
Burgundaviaholycow, ubuntu is not unstable03:55
Xanaduraiz: did it instal lok?03:55
holycowBurgundavia, debian unstable ....03:55
Xanaduinstall ok even03:55
Burgundaviaholycow, that is different03:55
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Razor-X.....03:55
holycowyes, thats what i meant, typo03:55
Lathiatholycow: ubuntu is different03:55
Lathiatholycow: oh, right03:55
ubuntulol03:55
holycowLathiat, no, its debian unstable with minor modifications :)03:55
ubuntuexactly03:55
batkins_Lathiat: thanks, got it working03:55
Lathiatholycow: wrong03:55
batkins_Lathiat: synaptic is pretty cool03:55
holycowokay, prove it03:55
Lathiatholycow: It's based off a debian unstable snapshot03:56
Lathiatholycow: adn the core of the distro is heavily changed03:56
Lathiatholycow: and looked after it03:56
DonLsynaptic rocks!03:56
holycowLathiat, no03:56
holycowheh03:56
Razor-Xvigilanty: are you using Ubuntu or Kbuntu?03:56
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holycow"core" of the distro03:56
Lathiatholycow: core == main03:56
holycowthat first of all means nothing03:56
Lathiatholycow: as opposed to universe, which is looked after less03:56
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Xanaducan anyone tell me how to correctly patch the ubuntu kernel???03:56
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Burgundaviaholycow, Ubuntu is a delta of unstable03:56
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vigilantyubuntu03:56
Lathiatholycow: Alot of that work is original, for example Xorg, gnome03:56
BurgundaviaXanadu, why do you need to patch it?03:56
holycowLathiat, heh, no, thats stupid, if it is heavily forked i'm going back to debian03:56
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Lathiatholycow: does not mean it is unstable, that is simply debians terminolog03:57
Lathiatholycow: you misunderstand03:57
Xanaduburgundavia, cause i want to run two seperate keyboards for my two seperate Gnome sessions03:57
DonLholycow, I see it as being a stabilized debian03:57
BurgundaviaXanadu, ah03:57
Lathiatholycow: its very based off debian, and alot of universe is more or less a direct import bar some minor fixes to workw ith ubuntu03:57
ubuntuwell thx for your help, the pb was resolved by choosing fedora, sorry you all here :s03:57
rhys-hynawsWho is using OO2 here?03:57
Xanaduburgundavia, apparently that means patching but i'd happily avoid that if possible03:57
Lathiatholycow: however in main, alot of stuff are done by ubuntu themselves, because that work is not done in debian03:57
mebaran151Xanadu, the Zen Linux project might be good for you03:57
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BurgundaviaXanadu, never done it, sorry03:57
holycow*sigh*03:57
mebaran151or the patches for multihead03:57
mdzholycow: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/document_view should explain adequately03:57
Lathiatholycow: for example ubuntu maintains Xorg, and a much more up to date gnome, faster03:57
holycowLathiat, your being pedantic about the details03:58
Burgundaviamebaran151, Xen won't help him03:58
mebaran151if he had two kernels03:58
holycowthe work is being put back into debian unstable03:58
Lathiatholycow: and keep in mind that alot of these changes are helped and pushed upstream to debian by the various developers03:58
mebaran151wouldnt they be pointable to different keyboards03:58
Lathiatholycow: No i am not03:58
Burgundaviamebaran151, xen is more than 2 kernels. It is 2 oses03:58
ubuntuhave some people here already tried gentoo???03:58
mebaran151Yeah03:58
mebaran151I did03:58
mebaran151it wasnt any fun03:58
DonLNot me03:58
holycowLathiat, i'll just stop talking right here, your pissing me off03:58
mebaran151four hours of compile errors03:58
guruffhey; i need a video chat soft that will work with something from windows world (not gnomemeeting) any ideas; i have searched net but somehow i can't see anything03:58
ubuntuand use it for long before choosing ubuntu?03:58
Lathiatholycow: Thats fine.03:58
ubuntulol03:58
Lathiatholycow: good day.03:58
tovellaubuntu: I've tried gentoo.03:59
rhys-hynawsWho is using OO2 here? type: 3303:59
mebaran151gnome meeting should work03:59
mebaran151with windows of course03:59
Xanaduburgundavia, mebaran151 i've checked out some kernel patches (was trying to patch to the AC kernel) but for some reason my builds always fail in Ubuntu03:59
mebaran151yeah03:59
ubuntuwhat kind of linux users are you all?03:59
mebaran151I dont like kernel patching and such on Ubuntu03:59
vigilantyLathiat, when i tried your advice for installing opera, this is what i got...03:59
DonLI had a windows freak over the other night who was extremely surprised by the speed and functionality of this young upstart linux thing03:59
vigilantycannot access archive: No such file or directory04:00
vigilantyErrors were encountered while processing:04:00
vigilanty opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb04:00
mebaran151I think that you should use probably a distor like Gentoo04:00
mebaran151or something04:00
holycowDonL, its not that young actually04:00
holycowsome parts of it are, some arent04:00
Xanadumebaran151 so basically i'm pretty screwed?04:00
DonLI know, but that was what he said04:00
mebaran151something that is really source based04:00
DonLor implied04:00
mebaran151you aren't pretty screwed04:00
Burgundaviavigilanty, did you append sudo in front of dpkg ?04:00
Lathiatvigilanty: hang on04:00
mebaran151it is just a lot of work04:00
Lathiatvigilanty: private messsage04:00
holycowDonL, yeah most people are only hearing about it now04:00
mebaran151where did you get your Kernel source04:01
Xanadufrom apt04:01
mebaran151and did you make menuconfig correctly?04:01
Xanaduyup04:01
Xanaduworks fine until i patch04:01
DonLholycow, it's been 5 years for me, and you?04:01
mebaran151you might have forgotten to enable agp or something04:01
ubuntui can't believe your PCs boot up in less than 20s with the default kernel :s is it really true?!04:01
mebaran151mine does04:01
Xanaduwas trying to patch for something else but my experience put me off patching ubuntu04:01
mebaran151I am on a AMD64 +3500 work station though04:01
DonLubuntu, using gnome, yes04:01
ubuntulol ok...04:01
mebaran151that patch probably was for something else04:01
mebaran151maybe a little buggy04:02
DonLWhen I used to use KDE, it was much longer04:02
ubuntuwith much modprobes etc...04:02
mebaran151try a good one04:02
mebaran151my friend did it in Nepal04:02
holycowDonL, you got 3 on me :)04:02
mebaran151he was trying to save buget at the local school04:02
Xanaduyeah it was for support for the it8212 raid card, using the AC patch for Debian04:02
holycow<-- very much a newb still04:02
mebaran151becareful04:02
mellinuxhey fellas, is is possible to play music off of a windows-formatted harddrive in linux? ubuntu uses a separate hard drive than the winXP one. any ideas04:02
mellinux?04:02
DonLholycow, I'm still a newbie04:02
mebaran151Xanadu, Debian patches are not Ubuntu patches04:02
Lathiatmellinux: yes, you are able to mount your windows partitions04:02
Xanadualso tried some other patches (all for that card) but crashed and burnt04:02
Lathiatmellinux: hang on a second04:02
holycowmellinux, you can read files from ntfs, yes04:02
mebaran151the kernels are probably built with different options04:02
mebaran151and the sources are patched with other patches04:02
ubuntudo you all use apt?04:03
mebaran151so it is a mixed bag04:03
mebaran151well yes04:03
Xanadumebaran151 where can i get clean ubuntu patches?04:03
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mebaran151in the repoos04:03
mebaran151they are patches for about everything04:03
Xanadurepoos?04:03
mebaran151repos04:03
mebaran151on synaptic04:03
Lathiatrepositories04:03
BurgundaviaXanadu, get the ubuntu kernel source, and patch that04:03
mebaran151haha04:03
DonLubuntu, I think you have to use apt with Ubuntu, but that's great04:03
Xanadui've looked thru all the patches on synaptic and haven't found what i need yet04:03
DonLSynaptic is just a gui for apt04:04
Burgundaviaubuntu, why would you not use apt?04:04
ubuntuhave you ever been obliged to use source files to install sth?04:04
Xanaduburgundavia i've got the kernel source - that's what i'm patching04:04
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holycowwhat is sth?04:04
ubuntulike when you have your own custom ubuntu based kernel?04:04
ubuntusomething sorry04:04
holycowand no, i just package up an app if i need to04:04
Xanaduwell trying to patch04:04
Lathiatmellinux: Please see private message04:05
DonLXanadu, go to http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html and get some new repositories04:05
Xanadugot them all04:05
DonLOh04:05
Xanaduand some extras ;)04:05
DonLOh04:05
BurgundaviaDonL, please don't recommend ubuntuguide.org, it is total crack04:05
nubiousI set up another user on my ubuntu Hoary setup and I'm trying to allow them to log in locally, but it's saying "GDM could not write to your authorization files.  This could mean that you are out of disk space or that your home directory could not be opened for writing.  Please contact your sysadmin".  How do I go about fixing this?  Thing is, when I went to the Users and Groups settings in Gnome under MY Login, it gives me an error:04:05
Xanadurunning kernel 2.6.10-5-k7 btw04:06
ubuntuwell for someone who need to compile sources which packages in apt will he have install?04:06
DonLSorry, Burgundavia . I've had really good luck with it. What would you suggest04:06
ubuntulike gcc, make automake...04:06
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BurgundaviaDonL, the wiki is better04:06
Burgundaviaubuntu, build-essential04:06
Xanaduubuntu: build-essentials, gcc, your kernel sources, and your kernel headers are good04:06
BurgundaviaXanadu, build-essential will get gcc04:07
LathiatZambba: its build-essential04:07
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DonLI really like the Wiki. Ok. That's what I'll recommend from now on04:07
LathiatXanadu: rather04:07
shad0w1ewhen I start up I get:04:07
Xanaduwhat did i say?04:07
shad0w1eStarting Ubuntu...04:07
shad0w1eVFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hde104:07
shad0w1ecramfs: wrong magic04:07
shad0w1e/sbin/init: 428: cannot create /dev/null: Read-only file system04:07
shad0w1e/sbin/init: 429: cannot open /dev/console: No such file04:07
ubuntuto compile, what is the minimum needed?04:07
shad0w1ekernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!04:07
Lathiatshad0w1e: Woops. What did you do before this happened?04:07
shad0w1eanyone know what could be my problem?04:07
holycowLathiat, i just want to appologize for being rude earlier04:07
nubiousahhhh wtf04:07
mebaran151http://www.k12ltsp.org/contents.html04:07
mebaran151Xanadu04:07
nubiousnow it's saying my MAIN account is out of disk space04:07
mebaran151you might want to look into that04:07
Lathiatholycow: no problem, accepted.04:07
nubiousuhmmm04:07
mebaran151it is meant for schools04:07
nubiousany help?04:07
mebaran151but they set up for you04:08
drcodehi all04:08
mebaran151LTSP04:08
Lathiatholycow: appologies if what i said was offensive or something.04:08
nubiouswhats hte term command to check disk space?04:08
shad0w1eLathiat: I copied over my ubuntu system from an ext2 partition over to an xfs partition on a new drive, and installed GRUB04:08
ubuntuok thx, i see...04:08
rhys-hynawsPolling: If you are using Open Office 2, type 33.04:08
drcodeany on know a channel where I can ask qustions about vcd tools?04:08
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holycowLathiat, naw i was just rude, i still invest my self in my arguments sometimes and its not productive04:08
familyHey04:08
ubuntulatest ubuntu release provides a gnome 2.10 desktop?04:08
Lathiatshad0w1e: oh umm04:09
familydoes anyone have the Automated Startup Script, the download link is broken04:09
Lathiatshad0w1e: how did you copy04:09
nibblesmxubuntu, yes04:09
Lathiatshad0w1e: its possible you didnt copy it right.. (sounds like it to me)04:09
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shad0w1eLathiat: many differenet ways04:09
ubuntuok, thx!!!04:09
Xanadumebaran151, two problems with that: 1) it's not ubuntu, and 2) i want to learn to do it myself04:09
shad0w1eall didnt work04:09
mebaran151http://www.linux.com/howtos/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/ind_keyboards.shtml04:09
shad0w1eill get it for you..04:09
nubiousanyone?04:09
Lathiatshad0w1e: because you need a number of flags to cp to get it right04:09
nubiousno one?04:09
foxinesshdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd -> how can i put this on startup :its need su to do it : , am try this on sessions but i think "becuse su need not work", any idea ?04:09
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Lathiatshad0w1e: it may be easier to just reinstall, and copy your home partition accross.04:09
darkauditfoxiness: it goes in /etc/hdparm.conf04:10
Xanadumebaran151, been through the XFree guide but i inevitably get to the "patch your kernel" part04:10
mebaran151you have to build Xserver from scratch04:10
Deffiegood night everyone04:10
neoliminalHi.  I keep having kernel panics.  How should I diagnose the problem?04:10
mebaran151which is going to be a royal pain04:10
Xanadumebaran151 oi vey04:10
Lathiatneoliminal: You need to explain the problem more clearly04:10
mebaran151because you probably need to patch that04:10
Lathiatneoliminal: Like, what you do to dmak eit kernel panic04:10
Lathiatneoliminal: and what is displayed on the console when it happens04:11
neoliminalOn boot up, the process ends with a kernal panic.04:11
mebaran151http://karlovo.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/ruby-contrib/how-to/XFree_local_multi-user-HOWTO/index.html04:11
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mebaran151this shoudl do it04:11
Lathiatmebaran151: is this for multi-person stuff?04:11
neoliminalHmm... how should I record the kernel panic... I can't cut and paste it.04:11
foxinessdark,are u sure ? i think this setting for hdparm > command04:11
Lathiatmebaran151: i beleive the ubuntu xorg already has some support for that04:11
Xanadumebaran151 backstreet ruby is a patch too04:11
Lathiatneoliminal: start typing ;)04:11
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Lathiatneoliminal: not in here, use pastebin.com04:11
ubuntuwell, i'd ask that last time, DID SOME OF YOU HAD AN APPLICATION THAT LOADED IN THE WINDOW BAR AND NEVER COME TO FRONT BUT OTHER APPLICATIONS RUN WELL...04:12
Lathiatneoliminal: or message to me in private04:12
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familyHey, does anyone have the Automated Startup scripy?04:12
darkauditmebaran151: install expert mode allows for a multi-sest install...04:12
neoliminalok, I have to log off to get and write down the info...  it's a dual boot.04:12
familyscript*04:12
neoliminalback in a few minutes.04:12
shad0w1eLathiat: sudo sh -c "find ./ -xdev -print0 | cpio -pa0V /mnt/hdb1"04:12
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ih8evilI'm trying to get IE to work under wine, and I can't seem to get it to work04:12
ubuntuwell, i'd ask that last time, DID SOME OF YOU HAD AN APPLICATION THAT LOADED IN THE WINDOW BAR AND NEVER COME TO FRONT BUT OTHER APPLICATIONS RUN WELL...04:12
mebaran151darkaudit, but with two keybyds04:12
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mebaran151that would be weird04:12
holycowubuntu, no, you have that problem? with what application?04:12
Xanadudarkaudit: has anyone survived an expert mode install?04:12
darkauditih8evil: unclean! unclean! ;)04:12
holycowubuntu, and stop yelling04:12
mebaran151darkaudit, it cant04:13
ubuntunot me, a friend of mine with mozilla...04:13
ubuntuthen firefox :s04:13
mebaran151they havent implemented it in Xorg yet04:13
ubuntubut installed with apt-get04:13
mebaran151and the code still is written04:13
ih8evildarkaudit, I know, I'mtrying to get LaunchCast to work04:13
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holycowubuntu, i don't even know what that question means? explain?04:13
ubuntusi dep were respected04:13
mebaran151Linux console code is still not designed for more than two keyboards04:13
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darkauditXanadu: I came close... but there were unrelated screwups that botched that...04:13
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mebaran151darkaudit, I did one04:14
mebaran151it wasnt THAT hard04:14
mebaran151I did it back when they called it custom or whatever04:14
ih8evilDoes anyone know how to run IE under wine? I can't seem to get it to work.04:14
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Xanadumebaran151 i'm 99% of the way there so there is some stuff in xorg for multiusers - i've got two completely seperate sessions running with seperate screens and mice04:14
ubuntuyou click on the application launcher then you see a new tab in the window bar...04:14
ubuntubut then, nothing...04:14
darkauditih8evil: sidenet04:14
nubioussweet04:14
ubuntuit disappears...04:14
nubiousmy setup is botched04:14
nubioushrm04:14
holycowih8evil, don't bother, try crossover office04:14
nubiousapparently my hard drive is full04:14
nubiouswhich I know to be not true, but I can't login to gnome now04:15
raizHow can I reboot through the terminal?04:15
ubuntuboth mozilla and firefox did that :s04:15
nubiousraiz: sudo reboot04:15
raizThanks04:15
nubiousn/p04:15
ih8evilholycow, doesn't that cost money?04:15
holycowubuntu, that just means its crashing04:15
Xanadunubious try empty your .Trash folders04:15
holycowih8evil, yes, but it works04:15
ubuntuyes exactly! you've got the word :d04:15
mebaran151http://www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby/04:15
ih8evilholycow, I have $2.0304:15
mebaran151Xanadu that might handle it04:15
holycowubuntu, has he tried reinstalling?04:15
Xanadunubious i keep forgetting about that and ending up with piles of junk04:15
darkauditih8evil: sidenet has a wine config script that will install IE04:16
stuNNedih8evil: lol04:16
mebaran151dll the pkg04:16
mebaran151and see if it works04:16
mebaran151if it does04:16
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mebaran151maybe try to do it right and compile it yourself04:16
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ubuntuno, that experience finished him lol04:16
ih8evildarkaudit, what is sidenet? do I need to download it? (I'm a n00b)04:16
holycowih8evil, ah! *ummm* all i can tell you is that i have not had much luck running anything under wine, it works for a while, i upgrade and things to wacky :/ it's not the wine devs problem its just that development is happening all the time04:16
ubuntubut there are more and more ubuntu users, i'm getting some info here :d04:17
Xanadusheesh which one?04:17
shad0w1eStarting Ubuntu...04:17
shad0w1eVFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hde104:17
shad0w1ecramfs: wrong magic04:17
shad0w1ekernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!04:17
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darkaudithttp://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html04:17
Lathiatshad0w1e: Did you pate what commands you used to copy?04:17
Lathiatshad0w1e: as i said04:17
ubuntuare you all on ubuntu in here?04:17
shad0w1eStarting Ubuntu...04:17
shad0w1eVFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hde104:17
shad0w1ecramfs: wrong magic04:17
shad0w1ekernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!04:17
holycowubuntu thats fine, if he is happy with a virus ridden, crappy os, that crashes all the time it self cool04:17
Lathiatshad0w1e: it would probably be easiest to reinstall, and copy your data accross04:17
shad0w1esorry04:17
shad0w1eyes I did04:17
shad0w1e sudo sh -c "find ./ -xdev -print0 | cpio -pa0V /mnt/hdb1"04:17
Lathiatshad0w1e: can you say again? sorry i missed it04:17
ubuntuno, he chose fedora :d04:17
holycowubuntu if they can't handle a single app misfiring, they really should stick with ms04:17
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holycowubuntu, rofl, oh he'll be back then04:18
holycownothing works on fedora04:18
lampshadeso for people using azeurus, was that just like a manual install or what?04:18
ubuntuhe handle gentoo very well for months...04:18
holycowespecially software installation04:18
holycowhehe :)04:18
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Lathiatshad0w1e: hrmmm04:18
Lathiatshad0w1e: i have no idea how well or bad that works04:18
Lathiatshad0w1e: but not too well apparently04:18
shad0w1eLathiat: I noticed that when you install Ubuntu using xfs on your linux partition, it uses LILO. I'm using GRUB...04:18
ubuntubut got bored to configure kernel when he got a knew pc :s04:19
darkauditlampshade: just upack the archive into something like ~/azureus and then run ~/azureus/./azureus04:19
mebaran151GRUB doesnt handle XFS too well yet04:19
Lathiatshad0w1e: yeh it does that because grub and xfs is a bit ugly04:19
mebaran151I dont why you would want XFS04:19
Lathiatshad0w1e: however, your problem is not that04:19
shad0w1eyou sure?04:19
ubuntupersonnally, i think fedora is a good polyvalent distro :D04:19
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Lathiatshad0w1e: youve missed some files in /dev or not updated your /etc/fstab correctly04:19
shad0w1e_ /sbin/init: 428: cannot create /dev/null: Read-only file system04:19
shad0w1e_ /sbin/init: 429: cannot open /dev/console: No such file04:19
Lathiatshad0w1e: did you edit your /etc/fstab?04:19
shad0w1ethere. I didnt pase those two lines before. I get those two errors as well on startop04:20
ubuntuyum is the equivalent of apt there...04:20
GTswaggerPutting Ubuntu on my g/f's laptop... but need to know how to become root in Ubuntu...   what do I do?04:20
shad0w1eof course!04:20
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Lathiatshad0w1e: need to change what is loaded to / and change its file system type04:20
XanaduGTswagger: su -s04:20
mebaran151GTswagger, sudo04:20
shad0w1eLathiat: I changed it to xfs04:20
Xanadui mean sudo -s04:20
mebaran151if you want a REAL root04:20
shad0w1efrom ext204:20
Xanadusoz04:20
mebaran151in sudo -s04:20
mebaran151type passwd04:20
mebaran151and you can set a a root password04:20
Lathiatshad0w1e: did you change the hda1 to, whatever04:20
GTswaggerawesome -- one sec04:20
shad0w1eLathiat: yes04:20
ubuntugentoo got its emerge which is a very good concept, taking sources and compile them instead of dezipping an archive :s04:20
shad0w1ehde104:20
mebaran151otherwise it gives the local user the power to do root actions upon entry of his pword04:21
shad0w1eI also changed it in the menu.lst argument that is passed to linux04:21
Lathiatshad0w1e: then uh, i have no idea, it looks like the copy command didnt get everything04:21
Lathiatshad0w1e: do you still have your old partition?04:21
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ih8evildarkaudit, I'm REALLY new to Linux, and I don't know what's going on. You think you could help guide me through this?04:21
shad0w1eLathiat: yes, on another drive04:21
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shad0w1edo you suggest I do it again?04:21
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Lathiatshad0w1e: it might be easiest to reinstall ubuntu on your new partition, and then copy your data accross04:21
ubuntuwell, none of you experienced the problem i enounced, i'll tell my friend to try ubuntu another time :D04:21
Lathiatshad0w1e: to save messing around all afternoon04:21
shad0w1eLathiat: By data, do you mean home directories?04:21
holycowubuntu, if he used gentoo, and couldn't figure out how to fix firefox on ubuntu ..... don't bother worying yoru self about that dude04:21
shad0w1ecause theres a lot more than that...04:21
Lathiatshad0w1e: yes04:22
darkauditih8evil: another option is installing and running winetools. It's more step-by-step.04:22
GTswaggerggrrrrrrrrrrrr04:22
GTswaggerAs root, # modprobe ndiswrapper keeps returning permission denied... it's 644 on ndiswrapper.ko04:22
ih8evildarkaudit, alright, where do I do that?04:22
shad0w1eokay screw it , I'll reinstall....04:23
shad0w1eLathiat: Thanks, though04:23
Lathiatubuntu: his problem is likely either bad hardware (ram, etc, that can be testedby choosing memtest from the boot menu)04:23
Lathiatubuntu: or, he did something with his system04:23
Lathiatubuntu: which was bad04:23
ubuntuno, i didn't mean to fix the issue, jsut, to know if ubuntu was the responsible...04:23
mebaran151sounds like a system04:23
mebaran151thing04:23
mebaran151sounds like someone destoryed the initrd04:23
ubuntuwhat if everyone knew that problem....04:23
mebaran151or something04:23
Xanadumebaran151 i've downloaded kernel-image-2.6.0-ruby-athlon_10.00.Custom_i386.deb04:23
mebaran151ok04:23
Xanadugonna try install it04:23
Xanaduwish me luck!04:23
LathiatXanadu: uh, ou really dont want that04:23
mebaran151try dpkg -i as root04:23
mebaran151ok04:23
LathiatXanadu: thats terribly old04:23
LathiatXanadu: and possibly wont work very well04:24
mebaran151heheh04:24
Xanaduhmm04:24
mebaran151what would be better Lathiat04:24
mebaran151Ruby is done with their work yet04:24
Lathiatmebaran151: What is he trying to do04:24
mebaran151he wants two keyboards04:24
mebaran151and two mice04:24
mebaran151on one computer04:24
Lathiatfor two X servers?04:24
Xanadugot the two mice04:24
Xanadulathiat yeah04:24
mebaran151two seperate but equal X  Servers04:24
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Lathiatright04:24
mebaran151two mice is not heard04:24
Xanadugot everything except 2 keyboards04:24
Lathiatubuntu has some support for that04:24
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drcodeany one know channel about vcd tools here in freenode?04:24
mebaran151I sound like Plessy vs. Feurgeuson04:25
Lathiatlet me check hangon04:25
GTswaggerAny ideas why #modprobe ndiswrapper returns operation not permitted as root??04:25
drcodeI want to know if I Can put sub title into mpeg04:25
ubuntusomeone uses totem?04:25
mebaran151you cant04:25
Xanaduok whats the concensus - i shouldn't install this deb?04:25
ubuntubased on gstreamer?04:25
LathiatXanadu: how are the keyboards connected?04:25
Lathiatubuntu: yeh04:25
bloggernautai dont know the default password for root, please someone help me :)04:25
mebaran151you cant put a sub title in mpeg04:25
Xanaduone thru ps2 and one through usb04:25
Lathiatbloggernauta: there is no default root pass04:25
Lathiatbloggernauta: second, getting url04:25
ubuntucan you play dvds?04:25
darkauditih8evil: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/winetools_2.1.1-1~5.04ubp1_all.deb04:25
mebaran151I tried04:25
bloggernautaow man04:26
bloggernautai need this to configure my machine04:26
darkauditeasier to just dl this than to go mucking about with your sources.list04:26
ubuntuhow to play wmv?04:26
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Lathiatbloggernauta: run 'sudo su'04:26
mebaran151bloggernauta use sudo s04:26
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Lathiatbloggernauta: to get root04:26
drcodeIf U put in sources.list the wine deb server , It will also download winetools04:26
darkauditubuntu: w32codecs package04:26
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Xanadulathiat i was going to try two through ps2 but i think that's a bit hard-core for now04:26
mebaran151why not do both usb04:26
qwmwhere can i find the ubuntu-calendar package?04:26
LathiatXanadu: yeh umm, im not sure how to do this stuff specifically, do you need a kernel patch?04:26
mebaran151that would probably be easier04:27
mebaran151yeah you do04:27
mebaran151you need Ruby04:27
ubuntuall of you using sudo, why not do sudo passwd and log as root...04:27
bloggernautahow can i have access to super user configs if root don't have a pass04:27
Xanadui'm running out of usb keyboards ;)04:27
mebaran151you can wrap in a library04:27
Lathiatubuntu: Because there is no need to04:27
ubuntucan i get it on apt?04:27
mebaran151probably04:27
Lathiatubuntu: w32codecs?04:27
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ubuntuyep04:27
melloLathiat: hey04:27
bloggernautabut here on my machine the system ask for a pass04:27
Xanaduis there no way to seperate the keyboards on the hotplug side of things?04:27
ubuntuis it an rpm?04:28
Lathiatmello: hey04:28
melloLathiat: i've booted ubuntu04:28
ubuntu:d04:28
darkauditubuntu: it's in backports, Marillat, or Cerkinfo repos04:28
Lathiatmello: o, hang on a second04:28
mellok04:28
Naliothhowdy04:28
bloggernautai used de sudo command and nothing different happens04:28
Naliothdagnabit it's been a long workday04:28
Lathiatmello: run "cat /proc/partitions" and paste to me in private04:28
Xanadubloggernauta what were u expecting?04:28
JDahlHave anyone here had problems with random lock-ups on Ubuntu on a Dell Optiplex? I've had to powercycle my machine a few times - I can ping it from another host, but not ssh to it or anything. I think it has to do with a ATAPI CD-ROM errors and humongous time-outs04:29
bloggernauta:S04:29
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ih8evildarkaudit, alright, time for me to show how much of a noob I am. Two files: control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, and a file(?) debian-binary. what do I do here?04:29
bloggernautai need to configure my lan04:29
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mebaran151Xanadu, the problem I think is that keybd code04:29
bloggernautabut i need the super user pass04:29
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mebaran151is very kernel intensive04:29
mebaran151and is loaded quite early04:29
bloggernautaand i haven't becaus my pass dont work04:29
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syndcan anyone help me figure out why my CD Player is skipping when playing CDs?04:29
Lathiatbloggernauta: how are you tryign to configure your LAN04:29
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blakehellow04:29
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mebaran151it is not really controlled by hotplug04:29
neoliminalok, so now I can't make it crash.04:29
Lathiatbloggernauta: most things on ubuntu ask you to enter our password04:29
bloggernautaby the common way04:29
Lathiatbloggernauta: the same one you login with04:29
Lathiatbloggernauta: *your passwor04:30
Lathiatd04:30
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bloggernautai see04:30
hpwhat happened with the root password?04:30
darkauditih8evil: you want to just dl it to your home dir, then run sudo dpkg -i (whatever the filename is)04:30
Naliothsynd how old is the CD drive?04:30
IIIEarsWelcome fellow new Ubuntu users (((HUG))) - lol04:30
darkaudityou don't need to unpack it04:30
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darkauditIIIEars!04:30
bloggernautabut my password dont work04:30
blake..............so i mounted my ntfs hard drive and now it says i do not have permittion to acess the drive .............can anyone tel me how to fix that?????04:30
XanaduIIIEars does that mean u're a new Ubuntu user?04:30
ubuntuthank you all bye!!!04:30
mebaran151blake it is a root thing04:31
mebaran151I forgot what you add04:31
blakei was in root04:31
mebaran151yeah04:31
IIIEarsnah i am a seasoned newb - 2 full weeks - roflmao04:31
mebaran151whatever mounts it04:31
syndNalioth, a couple years. its a Asus 48x!6x4804:31
Lathiatblake: add ,uid=100004:31
mebaran151whoever mounts04:31
Naliothsynd, do you dual boot?04:31
Lathiatblake: to the options in /etc/fstab04:31
mebaran151gets only the access04:31
Lathiatblake: usually after 'defaults'04:31
bloggernautahow you do this blake04:31
syndNalioth, no, not anymore04:31
Xanadublake put something like this in your fstab: /dev/sda1       /mnt/C          ntfs    ro,user,gid=100,umask=0222      0      004:31
blakehow do i unmount the dard drive04:31
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neoliminalwhere can I find information about the last crash I had?04:32
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Xanadublake: umount /mnt/C (or wherever u mounted it)04:32
darkauditNalioth: now, now... this is a family channel ;)04:32
Naliothsynd, was just wonderin if it worked under another OS, have you booted with knoppix/other live cd and checked function?04:32
blakei tryed ther04:32
blakethat04:32
neoliminalis there a corefile?04:32
Xanaduwith sudo04:32
blakebut let me try again04:32
Xanadublake with sudo04:32
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bloggernautagive me the command line of sudo04:33
syndNalioth, its worked on another OS, i used it with windows and it worked fine. got rid of windows after i got into ubuntu04:33
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neoliminalWhen you have a kernel panic, is there log file to look at?04:33
Xanadubloggernauta: sudo -s04:33
sbcl3where can I chose a different gnome splash screen? I hate the ubuntu brown.04:33
bloggernautathanks04:33
ih8evildarkaudit, I get this error: " winetools depends on xdialog; however: Package xdialog is not installed. winetools depends on gtk-smooth-themes; however: Package gtk-smooth-themes is not installed. dpkg: error processing winetools (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: winetools"04:33
blakewhat does sudo stand for04:33
syndNalioth, the same similar skipping happens with my laptop when playing a CD. both CD players worked fine when i was using Warty, but when i upped to Hoary, they started this skipping04:33
Xanadusuper user something something04:33
neoliminalsu stands for "super user"04:34
neoliminalthe do stands for .. um  .. do04:34
Xanadulol04:34
IIIEarsUbuntu Linux is the Darndest thing. - Windows locks up at least once a day. - it never happens anymore. is my computer "On"?04:34
darkauditih8evil: sudo apt-get install (those files)04:34
syndIIIEars, ?04:34
Naliothsynd, guess you covered all the bases, i'm at this point, lost.04:34
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sbcl3anyone know where the gnome splash screens are managed?04:34
neoliminalDoes anyone know if kernel panics save a log file?04:34
darkauditthen retry the dpkg -i04:34
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bloggernautasomeone knows how to create a home network (broadband) with linux04:34
syndNalioth, i tried the turning on DMA.. but no use04:35
bloggernautamore or less 3 machines04:35
levanderare there any irc clients that support both the yahoo and irc protocols besides gaim?04:35
darkauditapt-get will get the dependencies. dpkg will not04:35
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Naliothsynd, we have surpassed the extent of my knowledge04:35
IIIEarsJ/k - i can't even break Ubuntu using Synaptic multiple package redos make it very tough indeed. - lol04:35
syndNalioth, how do i check where my cdrom is actually located?04:35
levanderand, is it the general opinion that x-chat is better than gaim for irc?04:35
blakeit says unmount command not found04:35
syndNalioth, like is it /dev/cdrom?04:35
Lathiatblake: its umount, not unmount (no n)04:35
Naliothsynd issue the "mount" command all by itself04:35
Lathiatlevander: most people find x-chat better04:35
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bloggernauta?04:36
Lathiatlevander: but what ever works for you...04:36
XanaduIIIEars I have managed to break Synaptic unrecoverably. It now gives me constant errors. It is impossible to fix. I am very proud of myself04:36
LathiatXanadu: Haha good work. what are the errors?04:36
levanderLathiat: but x-chat doesn't support yahoo protocol?04:36
LathiatXanadu: you may simple need to run reload04:36
psychonatelevander, There is something called bitlbee that allows you to use many IM protocols in any IRC client, but it's sort of weird.04:36
Lathiatlevander: no, x-chat is only for IRC04:36
blakeok thanks04:36
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syndNalioth, i see nothing that refers to the cdrom..?04:36
Lathiatlevander: gaim is the better thing to use for instant messanging04:36
IIIEarsrofl - okay i'll keep trying.04:36
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levanderLathiat: am just getting frustrated with a few "quirks" of gaim04:36
XanaduLathiat it's all about Webmin or something04:36
blakewhere's that commnad that you sugested04:36
sbcl3anyone know where gnome's splash screen is kept?04:36
Lathiatlevander: such sa?04:36
blakethe drive is hdb104:36
XanaduLathiat really nothing will fix it04:36
sproingiehowdy.  anyone have tips on how to add debian experimental to sources.list?04:36
nate____does ssh use only TCP, or does it use UDP too?04:36
Lathiatsbcl3: yeh.. hangon04:36
blakeand the location is /mnt/music04:37
sproingietried adding it and pinning it low priority, but I get GPG errors04:37
Lathiatsbcl3: did you just want to change it?04:37
sbcl3yes04:37
sproingieW: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D04:37
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XanaduTo trash Synaptic: install PHP and Webmin04:37
bloggernautasomeone knows?04:37
darkauditsproingie: why?04:37
Naliothsynd i believe the hardware is located at /dev/cdrom, but ubuntue maps it to your system at /media (when something is loaded)04:37
Xanaduthen download the PHP sources04:37
bloggernautahow to do a home network04:37
sproingiedarkaudit: why do i want them?  because i need ghc-6.4, which isn't in breezy04:37
Xanaduthen install them over your current version04:37
bloggernautaa gateway to internet04:37
bloggernautalike windows xp does04:37
Xanaduthen delete your current php version manually04:37
LathiatXanadu: why the hell are you doing that04:37
psychonatenate____, a little trick: 'grep ssh /etc/servies'04:37
Xanaduthen install PHP5 from source04:37
nate____psychonate: thanks04:37
Lathiatsproingie: umm, dude, why are you adding debian sources04:37
Lathiatsproingie: thats baddd04:37
Lathiatsproingie: what are you looking for?04:38
bloggernautaif someone knows call me in pvt please04:38
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psychonatenate____, services*04:38
IIIEarsxanadu - nice tip thanks - a webserver was my next project - i promise to be careful.04:38
Lathiatbloggernauta: yeh04:38
Lathiatbloggernauta: install the package04:38
Lathiatbloggernauta: 'firestarter'04:38
bloggernautahow i do this?04:38
XanaduLathiat the php versions on apt were just too old and had one particular bug that happened to be fired off by one of my programs04:38
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blake: /dev/sda1       /mnt/C          ntfs    ro,user,gid=100,umask=0222      0      004:38
sproingieLathiat: just said.  ghc-6.404:38
levanderLathiat: one, the interface is wierd.  There's a "Buddy List" that list all your buddies on the networks you've logged onto.  To log onto a network, there are like four buttons you gotta click around to find to log onto a network.  Why they don't just put all networks in that list, then you click on a network to logon, when you log on, the list expands and shows all your buddies that network... Something like that.  There are just places w04:38
LathiatXanadu: oh, right04:38
darkauditsproingie: there are obscure tricks to getting experimental to work with apt. They've made it intentionally difficult to get to...04:38
mebaran151anybody here04:38
blakewhat does fstab stand for04:38
mebaran151crimsun anyone04:38
Lathiatlevander: i just use autologin and they alll login on tstart04:39
sproingiedarkaudit: actually it doesn't even work for sid04:39
mebaran151who would like to fix my virtual devices04:39
levanderLathiat: and don't some IRC clients have buttons setup for you to press to go "invisible" in IRC?04:39
Xanadumebaran151 whats wrong with them?04:39
Lathiatsproingie: ghc is in the universe archive04:39
ih8evildarkaudit, I installed those files, attempted to 'dpkg' again, and got the same errors.04:39
mebaran151oh04:39
sproingieLathiat: ghc-6.2 is in universe04:39
Lathiatsproingie: or did you specifically need 6.4 as opposed to 6.2 ?04:39
IIIEarsmaybe considering making a bootable iso server instead of a Hard drive install04:39
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mebaran151my printer virtual device04:39
blakewhat does fstab stand for ....anyone04:39
sproingieLathiat: 6.4, specifically.  it's for pugs04:39
darkaudithmm...04:39
psychonatefile system tab or something?04:39
Lathiatsproingie: oh, umm04:39
levanderLathiat: yeah, but I got about eight networks, 6 of them i rarely log onto04:39
mebaran151on usb:// is not set up correctly04:39
blakeook04:40
blakeok04:40
bloggernautahow can i install the firestarter?04:40
Lathiatsproingie: well ignore those errors04:40
Lathiatsproingie: install ghc04:40
darkauditih8evil: ok, then... you're runnin hoary?04:40
Lathiatsproingie: but then take that source back out immediately before you do anything else04:40
ih8evildarkaudit, yeah04:40
Xanadublake: static information about the filesystems04:40
psychonateor file system table? hell if I know04:40
ih8evildarkaudit, oh, wait, it seems like I got errors when installing those04:40
IIIEarsbloggernauta - add "universe" to the list of repositories in synaptic and search firestarter.04:40
Lathiatpsychonate: fstab is file system tab yeh04:40
psychonateyays04:40
darkauditih8evil: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:41
blakehow do i get to fstab???04:41
oon_:)04:41
psychonatethe aterm included in Ubuntu is too old04:41
Xanaduyou got fstab04:41
darkauditih8evil: add these lines: deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:41
Naliothblake ubuntuforums.org04:41
IIIEarsbloggernauta - logging out then back in adds makes it run without a terminal window open.04:41
Xanadusudo gedit /etc/fstab04:41
Naliothblake ubuntulinux.org see the wiki04:41
darkauditih8evil: and: deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:41
bloggernautaplease repeat the thing of universe04:42
bloggernautai search for and do what?04:42
Lathiatdarkaudit: what is he trying to install?04:42
sproingieLathiat: i can't ignore the errors, it doesn't appear that it will actually update04:42
darkauditLathiat: winetools04:42
Lathiatsproingie: it will, its just whinging about gpg04:42
Lathiatdarkaudit: bleh, ok04:42
Lathiatsproingie: it should be ignorable04:42
psychonateIt was a pain in the bum bum to get one that could go borderless.04:42
IIIEarsbloggernauta - while you have synaptic and "Universe enabled check out "Torsmo" system monitor it is amazing.04:42
psychonatetorsmo :)04:42
Xanadufstab officially stands for "file system table"04:43
sproingieLathiat: ah, so it is.  actually it doesnt seem to work at all for experimental, but it does ok for unstable.  weird.04:43
ih8evildarkaudit, ok, I added those, saved, and closed04:43
psychonateXanadu, That was my second guess up top :)04:43
Lathiatsproingie: so just install ghc, but please remove that source after04:43
bloggernautahow man i don't understand nothing04:43
Lathiatsproingie: otherwise your system will di ehorribly04:43
Xanadu10 points psychonate04:43
Lathiatsproingie: and dont run upgrade ! :)04:43
darkauditih8evil: run synaptic and hit 'reload' (it's the same as apt-get update)04:43
Xanadui just looked online - i'm too stupid to guess04:43
psychonateIIIEars, I don't like how torsmo "flicks" in and out though (I guess when it's updating)04:43
bloggernautaplease call me in pvt i can't read that much, i'm a brazilian and don't understand too much04:43
darkauditih8evil: you'll get some errors when it starts, but it's safe to ignore them04:44
NaliothIIIEars, torsmo didnt work for me04:44
sproingieLathiat: i thought if i pinned it down to low level it would be ok.  but i'll take your advice04:44
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Xanadudoes anyone here actually work on ubuntu officially?04:44
NaliothIIIEars, threw strange errors and wouldnt start04:44
IIIEarsibloggernauta - open synaptic - open the title bar "repositories" on the list that opens put a check mark in the "Universe" community supported libraries.04:44
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Lathiatsproingie: yeh taht could work, but its generally bad04:44
sproingieaw yah there's ghc 6.404:44
sproingienow to get to work on darcs and pugc04:45
Lathiatsproingie: woo :)04:45
sproingiepugs04:45
IIIEarsnalioth - ugh - i wish i had those errors i might of been able to help.04:45
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revelaterhow do i start the cups server again?04:45
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NaliothIIIEars, installed via apt04:45
ih8evildarkaudit, I hit reload, saw a status bar come and go. now what?04:45
darkauditih8evil: once it's finished updating the lists, winetools should be listed under 'new in repository'04:45
IIIEarsah - i am a linux wimp - used synaptic - though it shouldn't make a difference though should it?04:46
Geezer041Would somebody be able to help me install Firefox extensions? Noobie!!04:46
darkauditif not, do a search for 'winetools' and install it...04:46
XanaduGeezer041 what extensions?04:46
Geezer041not sure - flashgot04:46
Geezer041i want others too04:46
XanaduGeezer041 click on Tools/Extensions/Get more extensions in firefox04:47
Geezer041yes, have done04:47
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melloLathiat: do you think you could help one of my friends out with the same problem?04:47
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Xanaduright now pick which ones you want and click on 'em04:47
Geezer041downloaded flashgot and in xp it auto installs them04:47
melloone of our "leet" friends just showed us ubuntu04:47
mellowe're newbs04:47
ih8evildarkaudit, um, where is 'new is repository'? I see winetools in the large list with a red square next to it04:47
IIIEarsbloggernauta - still there? - how is it going?04:48
XanaduGeezer041 so what's the prob?04:48
Lathiatmello: sure04:48
darkauditih8evil: right click on it and tell it to reinstall04:48
XanaduGeezer041 just close and reopen firefox and they should be up & running04:48
mellosweet, he's coming04:48
Geezer041OK04:48
amonkeyhow can i shutdown a win2k comp (on my lan) from ubuntu(or *nix for that matter), i tried cedega shutdown.exe which is the standard windows utility for doing it, but i got some enviroment errors.04:49
Geezer041Its not there04:49
Geezer041I downloaded it but it didnt install it04:49
IIIEarsanyone noticed trouble with the default email client? "Evolution" is it just me?04:49
hybrid_gothhello all04:49
XanaduGeezer041 did u click on "Install Now"?04:49
IIIEarsHello Hybrid_Goth.04:50
ih8evildarkaudit, I get a warning: about to intall software that [b] can't be authenticated[/b] !04:50
psychonateDoes anyone use the sensors package? I don't know how to set these things up.04:50
Geezer041yes04:50
blakewhat does rw mena04:50
blakemean04:50
XanaduGeezer041 and it said it installed right?04:50
darkauditih8evil: don't worry about that... but in the future you'll need to get their GPG key...04:50
darkaudits/need/want04:50
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lampshadedamn can xmms suck more04:51
Geezer041no it DL's then i have a file in the firefox DL console04:51
psychonateI like XMMS :(04:51
lampshadedoes it not lock constantly on you?04:51
XanaduGeezer041 did u left-click or right-click?04:51
mellot1234: he04:51
melloy04:51
Geezer041left click on install now04:51
NaliothIIIEars, are u familiar with evolution?04:51
psychonatelampshade, never locks up04:51
t1234yeah04:51
ih8evildarkaudit, alright, I've marked it, now just apply?04:51
darkaudityep04:51
melloLathiat: t1234 is his name, he's a beginner, could you help him get AAC support and his winXP harddrive working?04:52
Lathiatt1234: Hi there04:52
t1234what's up04:52
IIIEarsYes - i can set it up - it stalls after retrieving my  half of my mails and then locks up tight.04:52
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lampshadeI hate media in linux it never works for me.  Like I have totem working the best out of the big 3 but even that's like ok at best04:52
Geezer041Should i have R clicked and DL'd to extensions folder?04:52
Lathiatt1234: hold on a second04:52
ih8evildarkaudit, alright, now what?04:52
Lathiatt1234: just figuring out aac supprot04:52
Naliothdoes anyone in here know what happened to the weather part of Evolution?04:52
t1234alright cool04:52
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Lathiatt1234: what program are you using to play AAC files?04:53
XanaduOkay Geezer041 it's doing the same to me :(04:53
darkauditih8evil: open a terminal and runn winetools04:53
amonkeylampshade: the most annoying thing for me in ubuntu is that embedded videos usually work right.04:53
t1234in windows im using itunes04:53
mellohe's using rhythmbox04:53
mellodefault04:54
melloit's what i use, it works just fine04:54
psychonatelampshade, I prefer XMMS for audio, mplayer for video, and XINE for DVDs heh04:54
t1234well in ubuntu04:54
Naliotht1234, you go, mister!04:54
Lathiatt1234: in that case04:54
Lathiatt1234: you may like rhythmbox04:54
Lathiatt1234: it has a similar style of interface04:54
Lathiatt1234: ok so to install AAC support for that, we need to do a couple of things04:55
IIIEarstotem for DVDs isn't the best - I'll try XINE04:55
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psychonateI really like XINE for DVDs04:56
ChrisC_howdy folks ... I'm setting up a hoary machine ...04:56
hybrid_gothLathiat: i believe mplayer plays aac04:56
darkauditIIIEars: xine is my favorite movie player...04:56
hybrid_goththe *real* mplayer04:56
psychonategood menu support04:56
Lathiathybrid_goth: yeh, so can gstreamer stuff04:56
ChrisC_does the default hoary install have an ftpd running?04:56
samuelsup all04:56
hybrid_gothnot ubuntu mplayer04:56
Lathiatt1234: sorry please wait a little longer04:56
t1234no problem04:56
samuelim thinking of simply getting rid of windows altogether and running win4lin04:56
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samuelany experiences with win4lin out there?04:57
IIIEarssynaptic is great i have installed XINE already. - wide grin04:57
darkauditsamuel: you have to pay for software updates04:57
Lathiatsamuel: never used it, i foudn vmware good tho for running windows04:57
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samueli dont really want to pay 100 USD and then find out its not much better than wine04:57
Xanadumplayer sucks and xine sucks most04:57
Lathiatsamuel: and qemu is a good open source and free alternative04:57
ih8evildarkaudit, i went through and an error came up: "Wine has exited with a failure status of 2"04:57
Xanaduyou people should try vlc04:57
Lathiateww vlc, totem. :)04:57
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samuelLathiat, qemu? is that like wine?04:58
Lathiatsamuel: no04:58
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Lathiatsamuel: its a computer emulator04:58
darkauditgrumble... lemme see...04:58
Lathiatsamuel: runs a copy of windows in a "virtual computer"04:58
hybrid_gothXanadu: Looks to complicated... i didnt see a folder with all the codecs04:58
Lathiatt1234: ok, so04:58
samuelLathiat, i see.... same as vmware?04:58
sbcl3no one knows where the gnome splash screen can be changed?04:58
Lathiatsamuel: yes04:58
Xanaduhybrid_goth why you telling me?04:58
lampshadeyeah I take that back, the only thing that works for me is totem.  The rest choke and die04:58
Lathiatsbcl3: install gtweakui04:59
Lathiatsbcl3: and you can use that to change it04:59
samuelLathiat, thanks, ill look into that!04:59
lampshadeconsistently, that's really odd.  And kinda pathetic imho...... wtf is going on04:59
hybrid_gothXanadu: you said we should try vlc04:59
ChrisC_does the default hoary install have an ftpd running?04:59
Xanaduyeah04:59
Xanaduvlc rocks the party04:59
LathiatChrisC_: no04:59
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LathiatChrisC_: No external services are running by default04:59
samuelLathiat, would i be installing windows into qemu sort of thing?05:00
Lathiatsamuel: yes05:00
Xanadui use vlc on windowz and ubuntu05:00
NaliothXanadu, i only like vlc in its Mac OSX guise05:00
darkauditih8evil: ok... back to sidenet... download the recent binaries to your home folder and run setup from there... it'll walk you through what's needed05:00
Lathiatt1234: Are you around?05:00
ChrisC_I tried to install vsftpd but it won't start (or I don't know how to properly start it)05:00
t1234yeah im here05:00
LathiatChrisC_: proftpd works05:00
darkaudithttp://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html05:00
t1234just instruct me05:00
Lathiatt1234: ok so go05:00
Xanadui've found it pretty similar on ubuntu and windowz which is one of the reasons i like it Nalioth - guess it should be similar on Mac05:00
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samuelLathiat, thanks... im on it...05:00
Lathiatt1234: system->administration->synaptic package manager05:00
Xanaduvlc plays EVERYTHING05:00
t1234got it05:01
darkauditih8evil: when it asks you what to do, open the archive manager and extract to your home folder05:01
hybrid_gothMPlayer play everyone05:01
Lathiatt1234: then select settings->repositories05:01
Lathiatt1234: select add, then press custom05:01
Lathiatt1234: then paste this line into th ebox05:01
Lathiatt1234: deb http://apt.cerkinfo.be/ unstable main contrib non-free05:01
t1234okay05:01
t1234done05:01
darkaudithybrid_goth: I like xine's ability to skim through a clip...05:01
ChrisC_I got vsftpd to work on a warty trial run I did a few months ago, but this time I get "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket"05:01
Lathiatt1234: hit ok to everything05:02
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Lathiatt1234: let it reload your package list05:02
Lathiatt1234: say when done05:02
Xanadudoes Xine play real media?05:02
hybrid_gothdarkaudit: mplayer does that since xine is based on it05:02
LathiatChrisC_: yarr, just use proftpd,i  know it works :)05:02
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Xanadudoes Xine play quicktime?05:02
Xanadudoes Xine play wma?05:02
darkauditXanadu: yep05:02
LathiatXanadu: most of them well play anthing, depending on what codecs you have installed05:02
ChrisC_Lathiat: ok, thanks :)05:02
t1234uhhh its done but it said "could not download all repositories05:02
Xanaduso Xine and mplayer are related?05:03
Lathiatt1234: ermm, does this machine have internet access?05:03
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Lathiatt1234: sure it isnt just complaining about GPG? (cus thats not a problem)05:03
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t1234im not sure..but yeah i have internet access05:03
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psychonateyays, sensors working05:04
Xanadui gotta say mplayer does something to the colours that just makes everything look sooo pretty - some fancy algorithms going down there05:04
NaliothXanadu, i've only used it on the Mac and ubuntu, and i find the UI quite different (guess thats the weird mac look, eh?)05:04
transgresshow dangerous is it to install transcode from testing?05:04
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psychonateI prefer to use mplayer from the CL05:04
Xanadunalioth yeah those mac guys like to skin everything up don't they?05:04
ih8evildarkaudit, I'm on "Open Files", with two empty boxes05:05
NaliothXanadu, i think its in the mac dev bible or something05:05
Xanadulol05:05
darkauditih8evil: did you already extract the sidenet binaries?05:05
Xanadunalioth there's something to be said about programmers who think about user interface *first* and not *last*05:06
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ih8evildarkaudit, ah, extracting. skipped a step05:06
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blakeok05:06
Xanadudamn i gotta get to bed! got work tomorrow (well today actually)05:06
cutiwhat is ubuntu stand for people05:07
mellogood05:07
cutiwhat is it mean05:07
melloawesome05:07
cutioh05:07
cutireally?05:07
mellohumanity towards others05:07
cutiit's not english?05:07
mellono, heee i'm kididng05:07
yyc747what exactly has to be done during install to select an already created empty partition?  my friend claimed it wiped his windows partition during install, and I want to know if it was an easy mistake to make, or whether he's just stupid05:07
melloit's an african language05:07
cutioh05:07
melloyep05:07
cuticool05:08
melloweird name, but it makes sense05:08
cuti:D05:08
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cutiyeah very weird05:08
blakei have mounted the drive and i can ONLY acess them in the root term is there any other way around this?05:08
darkauditih8evil: once extracted, open a terminal, cd to the folder you extracted to, and run ./setup05:08
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melloand it dominates linux05:08
Lathiatblake: are you mounting a windwos partition?05:08
blakethem being the folders in the drive05:08
Xanadublake have u mounted through fstab?05:08
Lathiatblake: if so, edit our fstab, and add ",uid=1000" to the options, probably after default05:08
cutilol05:08
cutimy bad, thanks zeeble :)05:08
blakei don't know how to edit the fstab05:08
cutivim blake05:09
blakeit looks really hard05:09
Xanadublake: sudo gedit /etc/fstab05:09
Xanadujust go to the end of the file05:09
Xanaduhang on ill msg you this is gonna get comple05:09
maineri like nano:)05:09
Xanadux05:09
darkauditih8evil: it'll step you through what you need to do, and also dl what it needs...05:09
stormy73034i hate vi05:09
maineryep05:09
blake# /etc/fstab: static file system information.05:09
blake#05:09
blake# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>05:09
blakeproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       005:09
blake/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:09
blake/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       005:09
blake/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       005:09
zeebleyikes05:09
blake/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       005:09
blake/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       005:09
darkauditoops :)05:09
nomasteryodablake, there's www.pastebin.com for that05:10
nomasteryodatip i learned here on this channel05:10
hybrid_gothwow05:10
hybrid_gothhey nomasteryoda05:10
nomasteryodahey05:10
stormy73034should i setup a ubuntu web server or a differnt flavor05:11
zeeblestormy73034: ubuntu web-server? or do you mean apache?05:12
nomasteryodastormy73034, ubuntu will work nicely for a web server..05:12
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stormy73034apache running on ubuntu05:12
stormy73034k05:12
stormy73034debian?05:12
nomasteryodaampache too if you want to access your music from afar05:12
zeeblestormy73034: will work just fine. just follow standard securing procedures05:12
zeeblethe heck is ampache?05:13
nomasteryodamp3, ogg, media player05:13
stormy73034typo05:13
nomasteryodagoogle it05:13
nomasteryodanot type05:13
nomasteryodanot typo05:13
nomasteryodalol05:13
zeeblehehe, it exists. nice :)05:13
stormy73034ahhhhhh05:13
nomasteryodayea05:13
nomasteryodatry the demo05:13
nomasteryodavery cool05:13
stormy73034cool just started to play with linux i found this flavor to be the best for my tasts05:14
zeeblenot bad. looks like audioscrobbler05:14
nomasteryodastormy73034, Ubuntu is pretty darn cool05:14
nomasteryodarated one of the best distros05:15
stormy73034nomasteryoda yeah i really like it05:15
LathiatSorry guys05:15
LathiatI have to go, time for a break05:15
Lathiatthe couple people I'm still helping in private I will finsih with05:15
nomasteryodazeeble, you can get a pre-packaged setup for ampache too at apacheusers.org... #ampache guys told me about it05:15
stormy73034i tried debian mandrake susie and slackware ohhh knoppitx05:15
mainerarch is nice,too,i686 and you can do just minimal install,too05:16
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mainercross between gentoo/crux/arch's own stuff05:17
mvbrHello, how would I go abouts partitioning my harddrive?05:17
mainerfrom installer?05:17
mvbrin general [ i think ] 05:18
maineri'll hunt for a link05:19
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mvbrthanks :)05:19
zeebleusing fdisk... simple partitioning would be about one / of about 4-5GB, and a /home of 2-3GB, and a 512MB swap. if you want something more elaborate, then it depends on your needs. you'll want /home, /, /boot, /usr, /usr/local, /var, /opt and swap...05:20
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mvbrmmm fdisk thanks :D05:20
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zeebleDoes your comp have a floppy drive?05:21
mvbrYes.05:21
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zeebleOk, then if you have access to a DOS boot disk, then check out http://www.ranish.com, they have a fairly nice free partitioner called Ranish Partition Manager.05:21
mvbrThank-you.05:22
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jiyuu0http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=167002&postcount=105:23
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mainermvbr i like using gparted from within linux,if you partiton with windows or dos,use fdisk,fips,or ranish i guess05:24
zeeblejiyuu0: there's a second ubuntu unofficial disk?05:25
jiyuu0zeeble, :)05:25
jiyuu02 version of the CD05:26
jiyuu01 just the normal Add-on05:26
jiyuu0the other, Add-On + Bootable CD05:26
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jiyuu0Bootable CD = SystemRescueCd.org05:27
mainermvbr:   http://www.somuch.com/listem.asp?TopicID=24&TopicName=Open+Source&CategoryID=90&CategoryName=Newbie05:27
mvbrthanks mainer05:27
mvbrhttp://obscurethoughts.net/irc-help-channels/05:28
zeeblejiyuu0: heh, did'nt know that :) been a while since i installed05:28
mvbrthats results so far.05:28
mainerlots of new to linux sites/resources/guides05:28
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mvbryou've silently participated ;)05:28
jiyuu0zeeble, the add-on cd is still new05:29
Dreamer3ok05:29
Dreamer3is there a firefox 1.03 backported?05:29
Dreamer3to hoary?05:29
BurgundaviaDreamer3, the security fixes are05:30
Dreamer3Burgundavia: yeah i know, but i have a serious bug... so i wonder if backports has 1.03 or i need to just install the bunary05:30
BurgundaviaDreamer3, what bug?05:30
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jiyuu0Dreamer3, yes... there's 1.03 in backports05:31
Dreamer3Burgundavia: browser tears up terrible when using backpackit.com05:31
Dreamer3jiyuu0: do you have the rep url handy?05:31
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BurgundaviaDreamer3, don't see it here05:31
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darGorhey.. can anyone help me? i've problems with audio.. i open video files with totem, xine or mplayer, but i cant listen anything. but i can play mp3s, it's all OK, but can listen video files.05:32
Dreamer3Burgundavia: it's when you're using the app05:32
BurgundaviaDreamer3, what app?05:32
Burgundaviaoh, the one in the website05:32
BurgundaviaI get it05:32
Burgundaviafile a bug05:32
Dreamer3Burgundavia: well, i'm going to see if the newer version fixes it05:33
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hybrid_gothBurgundavia: I found some decompilers05:34
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, please remember that decompiling is probably illegal05:34
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, it depends on what you are doing05:34
hybrid_gothBurgundavia: not it is not DMCA reverse engineering05:35
hybrid_gotht/o/no05:35
Dreamer3jiyuu0: downloading05:35
Dreamer3i'll be happy if that fixes it05:35
Dreamer3if not, then it's prolly al inux thing :(05:35
hybrid_gothBurgundavia: btw noone will complain for me decompiling Bess web filter :D05:36
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, why do you need to decompile it?05:36
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hybrid_gothBurgundavia: to find exploits figure out how it works... My school uses it and my proxy doesnt get around "global blocking"05:37
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Burgundaviahybrid_goth, ah05:37
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hybrid_gothBurgundavia: yea but my jr high loves my proxy :P but if i can completely defeat bess <insert evil laugh>05:38
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goldfishhybrid_goth: what decompilers have u found?05:38
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, web filters are evil05:39
hybrid_gothgoldfish: dcc a few on sf.net and a sucky rec05:39
hybrid_gothgoldfish: i am d/l dcc loking at the sf ones05:39
hybrid_gothBurgundavia: yes very anti hacker. information should be *free*05:40
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, what do they block/05:40
hybrid_gothBurgundavia: slashdot for one images.google.com05:40
hybrid_gothBurgundavia: stupid $#!+05:41
alainmwhy does flash in firefox start to race in ubuntu?05:41
hybrid_gothBurgundavia: all geocity is blocked05:41
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, is that a loss?05:42
IIIEarslol05:42
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, that is a relic of a differnet internet age05:42
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IIIEarsan internet "Age" is equal to .5 dog years - lol05:43
ih8evildarkaudit, I just got an error while installing: AddCRL failed => 0x80090017(-2146893801) [OK] . I hit okay, and it keeps installing, and brings up: Wine has exited with a failure status of 194.05:43
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hybrid_gothBurgundavia: thats beside the point it is that it is limiting me it is anti freedom information should be free05:43
hegemonyany ideas why I'm getting thrown right to a grub command line when trying to boot off a ubuntu warty livecd?05:43
IIIEarshybrid - can you run another machine as a proxy outside your wall?05:44
hybrid_gothIIIEars: yes but the global blocking blocks mp3s and such no matter where it is05:44
hybrid_gothIIIEars: it is an external proxy05:45
IIIEarsssh - should fix that no?05:45
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hybrid_gothIIIEars: yes but the school uses windows05:45
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IIIEarsugh05:45
hybrid_gothIIIEars: yes05:45
hybrid_gothIIIEars: i run portable firefox :P05:45
IIIEarsgood05:46
IIIEarsa bootable Ubuntu iso can be crafted with everything you might need no/05:46
ChoubakaYes.05:47
IIIEarsIt wouldn't help anyone but you though. - :/05:47
hybrid_gothIIIEars: yea it could but those computers take forever to start and booting a livecd would take longer but yea it would work05:47
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hybrid_gothIIIEars: yea I overclocked a few of the computers tho :P and a script kiddie watched me and did it to his computer but did it a gig at a time hahaha05:48
drcodeany one know in evoltion I Can work with gmail ?05:49
drcodepop ?05:49
Burgundaviadrcode, you can use pop05:49
IIIEarslol - that computer is now a good place to heat a "lean cuisine" lunch?05:49
Burgundaviadrcode, pretty easy05:49
allynyes anything should work on pop05:49
devnullgoogle has a pop interface too ?05:49
devnulli mean gmail05:49
allyndevnull only some people have a pop i believe05:49
drcodewhere I need to put port 995?05:49
drcodeI try pop.gmail.com:99505:49
devnullcool05:50
devnulli have pop05:50
Burgundaviadrcode, gmail has instructions05:50
drcodenot for evolion05:50
hybrid_gothIIIEars: hahayea he thinks he is da sh!t but it is funny he knows soooooo much but cant use bittorrent and doesnt even know what *nix is05:50
drcodeI check it05:50
pinSheh05:51
devnulli bet you could try to follow along to one of the other ones05:51
IIIEarsI am still so new at Ubuntu my jaw dropped playing a DVD on a 1.3g machine that XP slogs on. - linux is great. - many thanks to crimsun and the others.05:51
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drcodeit didnt work for me05:52
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drcodeany help?05:52
pinSIIIEars, welcom around!05:52
mpqI need help with gtkpod05:52
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holycowtime to watch the original matrix again05:53
holycowlater :)05:53
IIIEarsI sure wish video card manufacturers were more open with their code. - windows is too weak for the web it's only strong point is games.05:54
hybrid_gothwhat command creates a new folder05:55
goldfishmkdir05:55
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hybrid_gothok ty05:55
IIIEarsgoldfish -  mkdir can i add extra commands for write permissions when it's made?05:56
goldfishyou can chmod it05:56
goldfishto set permissions05:56
IIIEarsafterwards. - okay05:57
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goldfishyep.05:57
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batkins_can i suspend a logged-in user on ubuntu and switch to a different user?  similar to xp's switch users feature, i guess.05:58
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IIIEarsgoldfish - can the default Ubuntu build a program from source code?05:58
goldfishIIIEars: dont think so05:58
goldfishapt-get install build-essential05:59
crimsunbatkins_: there's no real equivalent to suspending a user. Linux supports true multiuser.05:59
goldfishwill get all you need05:59
mr_robotobatkins: yes, it's on your k menu in kde or right-click on desktop05:59
bob2goldfish: well, for basic programs05:59
batkins_mr_roboto: i'd be using gnome05:59
bob2anything more complicated than "hello world" will require other -dev packages05:59
IIIEarsThank You05:59
batkins_crimsun: can i suspend gnome sessions though?05:59
goldfishSorry, I'm a basic user :)05:59
bob2crimsun: does hoary include the user-switch applet?05:59
crimsunbatkins_: they will all run concurrently05:59
mpqis there a program that will sync an itunes db to an ipod?06:00
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metalsand2bob2: I unsubscribed from the mailing list06:00
crimsunbob2: the fast one? not that I'm aware.06:00
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Burgundaviabob2, fast-user-switching?06:00
bob2metalsand2: awesome06:00
Burgundaviabob2, I think from breezy06:00
Burgundavias/from/for06:00
bob2oh, dang06:00
metalsand2bob2: I'm sorry. I couldn't hanlde 80 e-mails a day, but I did wait a couple of days to see if anyone would assist me. No one did.06:00
batkins_crimsun: that would work.  i don't technically want them to stop working - i just want to be able to have a user's programs run in the background, log in with a different user and then potentially go back06:00
Burgundaviabob2, there were so crackish things that needed to be fixed, so it missed UVF06:00
bob2Burgundavia: hm...iirc it wasn't hig-compliant, too.06:01
Burgundaviabob2, and some deps in gdm06:01
metalsand2For the packages on the reposotories, how much testing is put on them before they're added?06:02
metalsand2Like, what if someone just said "I ported this, it works" - do people actually run them and make sure it's not malicious or anything?06:02
Burgundaviametalsand2, for universe, not much06:02
bob2define "the repositories".06:02
bob2if it's universe, whatever the maintainer does06:02
bob2for main, tons06:02
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metalsand2What are the different levels?06:02
metalsand2Main06:02
Burgundaviametalsand2, stuff from debian is assumed to checked06:02
bob2for the ubuntuguide ones "it builds? SHIP IT AND GET NEWBIES TO INSTALL IT"06:03
metalsand2Universe, multiuniverse, packports?06:03
Burgundaviametalsand2, new stuff in Ubuntu is checked06:03
calamarihi06:03
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drcodenow it work06:04
metalsand2bob2: I still haven't gotten my card working... Although, I did remove my PCI internal wireless card, because people said it could potentiall be conflicting06:04
drcodeI forget to open pop support at gmail06:04
goldfishcalamari: hello06:04
metalsand2bob2: So now I rmmod'd the old stuff I had, and uninstalled all packages.06:04
metalsand2Now I'm starting from scratch06:04
metalsand2and doing it all myself :x06:04
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calamarihow's it going goldfish?06:04
goldfishnot bad :)06:05
goldfishtired06:05
goldfishit's 5 am, i shud sleep06:05
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metalsand2Three nights ago I stayled up all night, attempting to get my card to work.06:05
drcodeI am wating that evoltion will work with out http to connect to excange server ,06:05
drcodewow it will be great06:05
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Rubintrying to figure out the best way to clone an ubuntu box06:06
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metalsand2bob2: You don't think I could have screwed anything up, do you?06:06
Rubinis there a free 'ghost' type app?06:06
ali4728Help!! How to configure PHP and POSRFIX to use mail() to send mail from my local comp / webserver!06:06
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bob2Rubin: partimage.06:06
chris_ubuntuwill an external serial modem automatically be recognized from ubuntu?06:07
bob2ali4728: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix06:07
metalsand2bob2: I really don't know what to do anymore... I'm thinking I may have screwed up my Ubuntu install. Perhaps I should just reformat and start with a brand new install.06:07
bob2chris_ubuntu: no06:07
Rubinbob2: thanks.06:07
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chris_ubuntubob2, what do I need to do to get reliable dialup access?06:07
samuelsup all06:07
hybrid_gothchris_ubuntu: dsl06:08
bob2chris_ubuntu: use the pppconfig tool to set itup, then "pon" and "poff" to enable and disable the connection06:08
hybrid_goththats reliable06:08
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metalsand2bob2 is ignoring me :(06:08
crimsunmetalsand2: he's kinda occupied06:08
bob2metalsand2: no, I don't think reinstalling will help06:08
Rubinif you can break it you can fix it06:08
metalsand2crimsun: He just answered every single person aside from me. I already know he doesn't like me. :[06:09
bob2jesus, stop it06:09
chris_ubuntubob2, I don't understand.  Can I expect to ultimately get some type of icon which people can double click to dial up.  This box has to be useful for guests at my home.06:09
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bob2this is why I don't answer questions in here06:09
samuelim installing windows 2000 on qemu, but the install has stalled for quite a while now... in the "installing devices" bit of win2k setup06:09
samuelany ideas?06:09
bob2chris_ubuntu: yeah, there's a gnome app for that, iirc06:09
crimsunsamuel: you might want to check the qemu site for hints and faq06:09
IIIEarssamuel - needs an "intervention" - Windows on linux why??! - lol06:10
samuelcrimsun, thanks06:10
chris_ubuntubob2: OK, how about the modem peice.  If I buy an external with serial connection, could I use the gnome app.  I am not highly linux skilled.06:10
samuelIIIEars, just two damned programs... i just need two programs!!!06:10
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chris_ubuntubob2: I can use synaptic, and that is about it06:11
lukeanyone know how to stop ping?06:11
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bob2chris_ubuntu: you plug it in.  you use pppconfig to configure it.  then you use the gnome thing to turn it on and off.06:11
bob2luke: please don't.06:11
lukeaye?06:11
chris_ubuntubob2: How do I know if my internal PCI modem is recognized?06:11
blakehow do i see all the drives that are able to be mounted???06:11
bob2chris_ubuntu: it won't be06:11
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IIIEarslol - i understand.. (nods and backs away cautiously - gotta be some kind of sado-masochistic dimension there.)06:12
crimsunluke: ping is a valid diagnostic tool, so be careful which icmp types you reject/drop06:12
chris_ubuntubob2: I have 7 of them.  I went by a used shop and got 7 which I was told had a high likelyhood of being non-winmodems.  Comment please.06:12
crimsund'oh06:12
bob2chris_ubuntu: they won't be detected06:12
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bob2it's highly highly unlikely a random pci modem is not a winmodem06:13
bob2find a ISA one or use a serial one06:13
chris_ubuntubob2: ISA meaning the old long slot type on the motherboard?06:13
bob2yes06:13
ZambbaIs there some day a graphical installer for ubuntu?06:14
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bob2a serial modem will be amazingly less hassle06:14
bob2Zambba: some day06:14
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bob2it's not a priority because it's pointless, but I think the plan is to have one for breezy06:14
IIIEarsmodems are inexpensive likely less than twenty dollars - grab a new one most big manufacturers trumpet linux compatible on the box somewhere if it is.06:14
chris_ubuntuOK, how about these BestData serials for about $20 on ebay?06:14
metalsand2bob2: a text installation is very intimidating for people who aren't familar with Linux06:14
Fac51#ubuntu-ppc is dead, can anyone help?06:15
Zambbatext installation scares people06:15
bob2Fac51: you haven't asked a question yet06:15
metalsand2People are used to popping in Windows XP, clicking next and expeting to only use their keyboard when it comes time to make an account.06:15
Zambbait's not problem for me but I would suggest Ubuntu as distro for many more people if there was a graphical installer06:15
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IIIEarsthe install app isn't pretty it works but the language used in disk partitioning was very confusing - qtparted was what i used.06:15
bob2er06:16
Fac51bob2; i'm having trouble getting the cd to boot on an imac06:16
bob2if people have trouble with a text installer, they're going to have lots more trouble with ubuntu once it's installed06:16
Fac51it was a ppc iso06:16
bob2Fac51: do you know how to boot cds on new world ppcs?06:16
metalsand2bob2: I definately agree06:16
bob2ie have you ever done it before?06:16
chris_ubuntumetalsand2: yes, I can't get involved in heavy command line system configuration.  Can you comment on the "BestData 56k serials" which I see on ebay?06:16
ih8evilI'm attempting to install sidenet, and it says it's simulating a reboot, and I keep getting new windows titled "Start Menu Shortcuts" that never respond. The install seems to not be progressing any. Anyone have any advise?06:16
crimsuna graphical installer is being considered, but it's not necessarily the vital element, Zambba. Did you find the installer intimidating? It should have been very straightforward.06:16
Fac51not a clue06:16
Fac51a link would be helpful06:16
ChoubakaLinux requires one to abandon the old ways of doing things.06:16
Choubakano more. :)06:16
bob2Fac51: hold down c before the boot boingm and hold it down for a few more seconds06:17
bob2Fac51: it will take practice06:17
metalsand2But once people have it installed they're way more willing to give Linux a shot.06:17
bob2chris_ubuntu: it's very unlikely a serial modem won't work06:17
crimsunZambba: an amazingly complex graphical installer is worse for the [new]  user than a simple, streamlined text-based one.06:17
ChoubakaI bet they wouldn't even care.06:17
Zambbathe ubuntu installer is good06:18
metalsand2If you asked me if I would devout my entire life to getting one thing configured for a week straight before I had the install... I would have told myself NOT a chance.06:18
ChoubakaMore than half the computer using world can't even install windows.06:18
chris_ubuntubob2: Is there a modem that will?  I don't understand what my next step is...06:18
Fac51bob2; gonna try now...06:18
metalsand2Now that the problem is physically there, I can't do anything else. I have to get it to work.06:18
IIIEarsinstalling grub took an hour of reading howto pages when it didn't detect the Redmond OS sharing disk space.06:18
bob2chris_ubuntu: you get a serial or ISA modem.  plug it in.  follow the steps I outlined twice already.06:18
spacepopeyechoubaka: so true06:18
bob2IIIEars: did you file a bug?06:18
ih8evilI'm attempting to install sidenet, and it says it's simulating a reboot, and I keep getting new windows titled "Start Menu Shortcuts" that never respond. The install seems to not be progressing any. Anyone have any advise?06:19
ZambbaI know one guy who couldn't install Win XP. He couldn't partition his hard disk because he pressed Delete when trying to delete a partition, there was a simple text in screen "Press D to delete partitions"06:19
ChoubakaWindows is used so much because it comes pre-installed on 90% of all PCs06:19
IIIEarsfile a bug? er.. no i ususally spray them with "raid" - too new to know how to do that - (sheepish grin)06:19
desrtdont go there choubaka windows is good06:19
ChoubakaPeople Don't give a shit06:19
bob2IIIEars: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/06:19
bob2IIIEars: if something doesn't work in ubuntu, please file a bug there06:20
Choubakadesrt: It's not good for me.06:20
IIIEarsokay - now i know. - wide grin. - Thanks.06:20
bob2IIIEars: or in malone if whatever the problem is with isn't on bugzilla06:20
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chris_ubuntubob2: Yes, I see that you have outlined those steps for someone who can do that.  They will not work for me as I don't have the skill set.  Thanks anyway.06:20
metalsand2^^^ Well put :x06:21
bob2chris_ubuntu: if someone says something you dont understand, then you say "I don't understand how to do that, can you elaborate on blah?".06:21
IIIEarsI suppose that means i am in a small way responsible for the quality of the OS i use? - hm.. new concept.06:21
bob2chris_ubuntu: then they explain it again assuming less knowledge06:21
IIIEarsglad to do it. - Ubuntu is terrific.06:22
Choubaka:)06:22
bob2IIIEars: yes, it's an important switch06:22
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bob2IIIEars: as you learn more, you can eventually take control for *fixing* the problems, too06:22
ChoubakaUbuntu is the best Linux distro there is.06:22
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bob2depends what you want in a linux distribution06:22
ChoubakaAnd you know, it has so much to improve upon, still. :|06:23
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IIIEarslol - if i have to learn C you are all in really big trouble i can't spell worth a darn.06:23
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Choubakabob2: It ought to work.06:23
chris_ubuntubob2: I misread your above comment -- now I see that you said it is very unlikely a serial _won't_ work06:23
ZambbaNow I'm booting first time to my new Ubuntu system :P06:23
pablo921Ubuntu is the best, "only", distrodistro that I've tried.06:24
Zambbait at first started tuo dpkg stuff06:24
ChoubakaAlso, It has to have APT.06:24
bob2chris_ubuntu: right06:24
ih8evilI'm attempting to install sidenet, and it says it's simulating a reboot, and I keep getting new windows titled "Start Menu Shortcuts" that never respond. The install seems to not be progressing any. Anyone have any advise?06:24
ZambbaDoes Ubuntu have more graphical configuration tools than Debian?06:24
bob2ih8evil: you're being too vague06:24
bob2ih8evil: do you mean "I'm trying to install sidenet using wine..."?06:25
IIIEarsWelcome Zambia! - New newb buddy. - grin06:25
bob2Zambba: not really06:25
bob2graphical configuration tools are a small part of making things simpler, tho06:25
ih8evilbob2, yes, exactly06:25
metalsand2bob2: What makes Windows so easy?06:25
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ChoubakaOhh, Zambba is yet another Finn.06:25
ZambbaWhat differencies does Ubuntu have compared to Debian? :P06:25
ZambbaChoubaka: Yes06:25
Fac51bob2; the main cdrom is screwed up, so how would i get it to boot from an external cdrom?06:25
metalsand2I used a command prompt to do ONE Thing while using Windows06:25
bob2metalsand2: I don't know, I find it horrible to use06:25
metalsand2Release my IP and get a new one when I'd test to see if my connection was borked06:26
bob2Fac51: I don't know if that's possible06:26
bob2Fac51: I'd suspect not06:26
ih8evilI need it for LaunchCast06:26
austusI fooking luv ubuntu!06:26
pixelhey, ubuntu is great, I'm now doing without win since saturday...06:26
pixelcu06:26
chris_ubuntuDoes anyone have anything bad to say about a Hayes serial modem?06:26
Fac51bob2 ; do the cdroms on the imacs go out a lot?06:26
ChoubakaZambba: If you liked Debian, you'll love Ubuntu.06:26
IIIEarsWhat makes windows easy? - knot heaving to spall anything?06:26
Zambbanice ^^06:26
Zambbaschool -->06:26
bob2Fac51: not that I've heard of06:26
metalsand2bob2: You can't argue the numbers. People PAY to use Windows. Linux is free, yet the amount of people running it is staggering compared to Windows.06:26
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bob2metalsand2: I'm not arguiing with anything06:27
bob2metalsand2: I'm just saying windows is far harder and more annoying for me to use06:27
Choubakasome peopel don't even know they're paying for windows. :P06:27
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Fac51bob2 ; ok, well , it's not reading my dics, i've tried three burns already.... i hold c down, but nothing ever happens....06:27
austustoday is first time i ever installed linux without having to config X or hardware.06:27
bob2chris_ubuntu: hayes used to be the standard for modems06:27
Fac51what could possibly be wrong?06:27
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metalsandbob2: Not for the general user, though - and that is because of GUIs06:27
bob2Fac51: does the drive work otherwise06:27
bob2metalsand: I think you're jumping to a conclusion with no evidence06:27
metalsandbob2: Also, things "jsut work"06:27
Choubakaaustus: :D06:27
Fac51bob2 ; yes06:28
bob2metalsand: yes, I think the just work aspect is far more important than silly gui tools06:28
pablo921metalsand2, linux is free only if you place no value on your time. But it gives you satisfaction to have things done your way.06:28
deFryskFac51, burned image or copied iso ?06:28
bob2why bother with a gui network config tool when it could Just Work to begin with?06:28
Choubakametalsand: hwo can you say "things just work" on windows when you need to install it without a net connection and with a virus scanner/firewall CD at hand?06:28
metalsandbob2: Look at my situation. I'm really laughing here06:28
bob2metalsand: yes, you're in a small minority06:28
bob2metalsand: everything on my laptop worked perfectly out of the box with ubuntu06:29
IIIEars<< Been trying linux since RH 7.2 - It used to take a week before linux did anything useful.06:29
Q_ContinuumHow do I backup grub and restore it?  I'm going to be reinstalling windows on same box, and I know it'll overwrite the MBR.06:29
austusChoubaka, I cried ;) ...ok i was friggin impressed...even with the set of software installed by default.06:29
Fac51bob2 ; burned image06:29
Choubakanow, AWAY and fast or I shall be late for work.06:29
bob2metalsand: I know you're frustrated, but generalising your experience to everyone's is silly06:29
bob2Q_Continuum: just tell grub to reinstall itself afterwards06:29
metalsandbob2: I'm not, I'm generalising based on data06:29
bob2metalsand: no, you're not06:29
Q_Continuumummm...from what bob2?06:29
bob2metalsand: what evidence do you have that gui tools are what makes windows popular?06:29
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metalsandOver the 7 years I used Windows, the MOST I had to do was download a driver and click install06:29
Q_Continuumif I can't boot to ubuntu how would I do that? ^.^06:29
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bob2Q_Continuum: boot the live cd or install cd06:30
austusbye bye06:30
bob2metalsand: again, I had to do nothing to get my wireless to work06:30
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Q_Continuumand from that I can do a grub install?06:30
bob2metalsand: you're unlucky in this regard06:30
bob2Q_Continuum: right06:30
metalsandThe first 5 hours in Ubuntu I spent configuring my laptops resolution. Eventually someone told me I needed a package to "trick" my monitor into displaing those settings06:30
bob2Q_Continuum: sudo grub-install06:30
samueljust a question... why would you want to use wine with qemu?06:30
Q_Continuummmmkay06:30
bob2metalsand: yes, you have bad hardware06:30
metalsandMy hardware is top of the line: both my monitor and my card06:30
Q_Continuumrather than hitting ok on whatever the install CD has for it's command-line options?06:30
Choubakasamuel: for utter slowness? :D06:30
bob2metalsand: yes, but your video chipset lies about what modes it supports06:31
metalsandBoth worked perfectly in Windows, and both worked perfectly for ever 700m user.06:31
samuellol06:31
bob2metalsand: hence the need to hack around it06:31
JDahlmetalsand, I am going to swallow your flamebait... some people dont give a rat's ass if their webcam works out of the box... I dont even have a sound card on my machines, but I depend on all the GNU tools, which works much much better on Linux than on Windows06:31
bob2metalsand: it would work under linux, too, if the manufacturer would tell the X people how to get the real resolutions out of it06:31
ChoubakaYES.06:31
ChoubakaJDahl: yes06:31
metalsandJDahl: I'm not starting a flame war, I'm really supporting my side06:31
Choubakaasdf. damn06:31
bob2metalsand: prism2 is not "top of the line", either06:31
bob2tho I am quite surprised you're having any problems with it06:32
metalsandbob2: Do you TRUELY believe that a Linux install, any distrobution, is more compatible over ALL hardware than a Windows machine?06:32
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bob2metalsand: did I say that?06:32
froguzhi06:32
bob2metalsand: please stop putting words into my mouth06:32
metalsandbob2: It was implied, at least that's what I read06:32
froguzis there any ubuntu spanish channel??06:32
bob2metalsand: I certainly believe that ubuntu out of the box supports on the same order of magnitude hardware as windows06:32
metalsandDon't get upset, I'm just tyring to give you another opinion.06:32
bob2froguz: #ubuntu-es06:32
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bob2I'm not upset, I'm annoyed at your attitude06:33
froguzthanks a lot06:33
bob2but this is pointless, so tata06:33
Q_Continuummetalsand: with the exception of 3d binary video drivers, my desktop was fully supported out-of-the-box from the ubuntu CD :-)06:33
metalsandYou've been using Linux for probably more than a decade. Of course you're going to be used to that06:33
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IIIEarsNah - hardware manufacturers have a microsoft carrot up their A** - Ubuntu and other solid distros will make them see money in supporting it.06:33
metalsandHowever, sit a person whose never used a PC before in the life with a Windows setup, and then sit them down at a Linux setup06:34
Q_Continuumand my laptop on the ubuntu-64 had binary video and ndwiswrapper for wireless, otherwise out-of-the-box.06:34
bob2metalsand: again, you're making things up06:34
Q_Continuumwindows setup = harder (all the drivers)06:34
spacepopeyemetalsand: learning windows was hell06:34
bob2metalsand: have you actually done a test with this?  or are you assuming again, based on the fact windows is more popular at the present time?06:34
pablo921 metalsand, most hardware was designed for windows and include oem windows drivers06:34
Q_Continuumas long as it's supported hardware, it's a piece of cake.06:34
deFryskmetalsand, what are you trying to tell us/prove ?06:34
metalsandand I gaurentee it'd be MUCH easier given all the GUI tools, all the access to drivers and overall professional support Windows has.06:34
Q_Continuummost oem windows drivers are crud.06:34
bob2metalsand: have you tried making use of ubuntu's professional support?06:35
metalsandpablo921: That's exactly my point06:35
bob2metalsand: if not, please refrain from commenting on it06:35
metalsandbob2: I'm talking about being able to call a manufacture, or Windows FREE (Once you've registered your software) support and say this doesn't work06:35
bob2metalsand: ok!06:35
Q_ContinuumMetalsand: unless you have a contract with MS, you get NO free support from them.06:35
Q_Continuum$35 for the call.06:36
metalsandbob2: I can't call Senao and tell them my card doesn't function in Linux. They'd laugh at me06:36
bob2metalsand: perhaps you should buy from companies that care then06:36
Q_Continuumso be picky about your hardware then.06:36
Q_ContinuumI am.06:36
metalsandbob2: You're being bias again06:36
sigmetalsand: then your using crappy hardware06:36
Dreamer3hmmmm06:36
bob2metalsand: but, again, remember you're in a tiny minority06:36
sigwhy buy hardware from a manufacturer that only wants to support one OS06:36
Dreamer3i just have everthing user /usr/local owned by root:root, is that the norm, or going to cause problems?06:36
metalsandbob2: I'll give you minority06:36
Q_Continuummetalsand: only in the us are we a minority.06:37
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Q_Continuumlook at brazil, europe, asia.06:37
bob2metalsand: what?06:37
metalsandBut 2 things not functioning out of the box of a Linux install doesn't seem highly unlikely06:37
froguzwhy sudo doen't ask me for a password anymre before i'd add to my user (froguz) to /etc/sudoers with visudo?06:37
Q_ContinuumChina's got their own distro of Linux supported by the gov't for chrissakes06:37
metalsandI'm not going to say I'm a "tiny minority"06:37
sigmetalsand: you're being silly now.06:37
bob2metalsand: you're upset and letting that affect your judgement06:37
bob2metalsand: again, please, I know more about this than you06:37
metalsandsig: How sow?06:37
froguzi've allready a root account, but i'd like to use the sudo option (gksudo)06:37
Q_Continuumbrazil's got microsoft pissed because they offically switched to linux06:37
spacepopeyeQ_C: what distro?06:37
sigmetalsand: instead of arguing here why not google or look on forums to get the hardware working.06:38
metalsandbob2: You know more about Linux, not Windows. You don't need to be condecending.06:38
spacepopeye(china)06:38
metalsandsig: You don't know my situation.06:38
bob2metalsand: no, I know more about which hardware works06:38
metalsandbob2: I agree06:38
bob2metalsand: the vast majority of people do not have problems.  you are in a small minority.06:38
sigmetalsand: well enlighten me then.06:38
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metalsandsig: I've spent probably 24 hours+ in this channel the last week taking full walk through over 3 different software sets, readying every support article I can about Linux/Ubuntu on the drivers, and I'm still where I started.06:39
pablo921metalsand, the thing I like about linux is that the problems i solved yesterday seem trivial today06:39
metalsandIf you don't believe me, ask bob06:39
sigmetalsand: what hardware?06:39
bob2yes, metalsand has some ery odd hardware that appears to not work06:39
bob2no one has actually usefully walked him/her through it, tho06:39
bob2afaict06:39
metalsandsig: Senao NL 2511 Plus Ext 2 wireless PCMCIA NIC06:39
metalsandI've gone through some pretty intelligent people.06:39
Q_Continuumnever heard of the manufacturer even.06:40
metalsandunfortunately one couldn't finish, and left me with getting the hostap drivers to work... But then when I restarted my card wasn't even detected.06:40
froguzcan anybody help me??06:40
metalsandSo, now since I'm on my own I've just deleted everything, removed my internal card to make sure there is no conflictions are started fresh.06:40
tritiummetalsand, are you referring to me?06:41
deFryskmetalsand, inernal card is card on motherboard ?06:41
sighttp://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/SenaoCard06:41
deFryskinternal06:41
bob2metalsand: what email address did you use to write to the list?06:41
metalsandNo. tritium: I'm refering to dmj8206:41
metalsandmetalsand@gmail.com06:41
bob2wow, legit06:42
tritiummetalsand, sorry if I couldn't walk you all the way through.  Your hardware has been challenging to help you with06:42
sproingieseattlewireless uses senao cards, so they might have an answer06:42
metalsandbob2: Keep in mind 2 people that are stuck in my sitation are crimsun and tritium. It's not like the people that have made an atempt to help me haven't done so "usefully"06:42
Q_Continuumthat page looks very promising06:42
sproingielooks like sig said it first06:42
sighttp://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?p=118840#post11884006:42
metalsandtritium: I definately agree, no worries at all, man. I appriciate what you did help me with.06:43
bob2metalsand: your post to the list wasn't very useful06:43
tritiummetalsand, I just attached here.  How am I stuck in your situation?06:43
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sproingiehuh sonicwall resells 'em06:43
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metalsandbob2: Forgive me06:43
bob2metalsand: things like "I install it. It didn't work." doesn't give anyone any information to help you with06:43
sighttp://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?p=118840#post11884006:44
metalsandIt was my first post and it's my first week in Linux... I'm not sure what people were looking for.06:44
bob2metalsand: perhaps you meant "I loaded the module manually, and it succeeded, but according to dmesg no card was found.", or perhaps not.06:44
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lorenQ: anyone know of any splashes i can use for the time being aside from usplash?06:45
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sitaI need help with somthing.  I am trying to copy my favorites from my windows HD to my Linux hard drive.  Thay are both Firefox.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?06:45
metalsandbob2: I'd really apprciate if you used your knowledge to try to see at least what my isssue is.06:45
sigmetalsand: take the card out, and run this in a terminal: "tail -f /var/log/messages"06:45
sigthen plug the card in and look at the output06:45
njokasita, awesome...06:45
njokaNjoka is here.....06:45
lorensita: i havn't personally done it but i think it's in a different format, try erm, looking up on google im sure it's common06:45
njokaivoks, you here?06:46
lorenfirst time you run firefox it asks you if you want to import urls06:46
IIIEarssita - firefox will export you internet favorites to an html file that can be reimported06:46
metalsandkernel: linkstatus=DISCONNECTED (unhandled)06:46
sitaOk where can I find it?  And where do I put it06:46
metalsandkernel: linkstatus=ASSOCFAIL (unhandled)06:46
njokasita: let me start with this...06:46
bob2metalsand: so, your card is detected then06:46
loren Q: anyone know of any boot splashes i can use for the time being aside from usplash?06:46
sigbob2: look at this: http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/Client_5fAdapters_5f802_5f11b06:47
bob2loren: no need to ask again06:47
metalsandbob2: I rfmod'd the hostap drivers, and started anew from the wlan-ng drivers06:47
lorenbob2: i wasn't sure if anyone saw it or they passed over it ;)06:47
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njokasita: ok, so, you want to export, and import favorites...06:47
IIIEars   just a sec - checking if the linux and MS firefox versions are different06:47
njokanot copy06:47
metalsandAnd, when I installed the prism2_cs module, my card came back06:47
bob2metalsand: well, the card is detected06:47
deFrysksita >bookmarks > manage bookmarks > file > export06:47
froguzsomebody can show me the "Default" line os his /etc/sudoers file please'???06:47
njokasita: try exporting them, that is the first step...06:47
metalsandbob2: Yes. But it isn't working. ;)06:47
sitaI tried that and it did not work06:47
njokanjoka: let me know...if you manage that...06:48
bob2froguz: rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL06:48
lorenanyone know when USplash Official is planned to be released? (1.0)06:48
Q_Continuumsita: win2k/xp?06:48
njokasita, and let me know what format they are in.06:48
bob2froguz: it's really so much better to not play with it06:48
bob2loren: never, probably.  look on the wiki.06:48
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sitaunless I tried to move the wrong file.  I tried to move the favorets06:48
lorenbob2: that's too bad, imo REALLY too bad, i really need it unfortunatly ;(06:48
bob2loren: "need"? why?06:48
bloggernautahi everyone06:48
bob2metalsand: the card thinks it's out of range of the ap06:48
z3k3site: favorites.html?06:49
bloggernautai need help to mount a ntfs file system from windows xp on my ubuntu06:49
Q_Continuumin win2k/xp, c:/documents and settings/username/application data/mozilla/firefox/profiles/randomname/bookmarks.html is the file you want06:49
lorenbob2: im showing it to a company and trying to convince em to OEM it in a few weeks06:49
metalsandbob2: How do you know this06:49
IIIEarsboth firefox versions are the same "Bookmarks" .. Manage bookmarks >> "File" >> "export bookmarks""06:49
CybermagellanIs there a GUI FTP server?06:49
njokasita: hm...did you see any of your URLs in there?06:49
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z3k3ahh.06:49
metalsandCybermagellan: Synaptic06:49
Q_Continuumbloggernauta, http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows06:49
froguzyeah bob2 buy i've asked for the Default line06:49
metalsandsystem --> Adminstration --> Synaptic06:49
bob2loren: they really care about that?06:49
bob2Cybermagellan: no, that would be silly06:49
froguznot for users line06:49
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bob2metalsand: that's what that message means.  it's trying to associate, but failing because the signal is too week.06:50
samuelcan someone tell me plz the name of the command to check disks? ive forgotten it!!!06:50
bob2froguz: then capitalise htings properly: Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets06:50
lorenbob2: text start up is intimidating to non linux fanatics unfortunatly, so that's my erm problem lol, yeah they'd care because i need to make it as simple and easy to use, kindof like "for dummies"06:50
CybermagellanBob you have any suggestions on simple FTP server setups?06:50
IIIEarssita? - still there?06:50
samuelfdisk!!!06:50
froguzthanks a lot06:50
bob2Cybermagellan: why do you want a ftp server at all?06:50
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IIIEarsfdisk -l06:50
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deFrysksudo fdisk -l06:51
njokabob2: 2 week?06:51
Cybermagellanbob....so I can develop webpages at work and serve them from my home06:51
IIIEarslol - you're right06:51
deFrysk;p06:51
IIIEarslol06:51
z3k3Cybermagellan: proftpd06:51
bob2Cybermagellan: why not use rsync or sftp or webdav?06:51
bob2nevyn: I don't know what your question is06:51
Cybermagellanbob2: I'm new to Ubunut06:51
z3k3Cybermagellan: thats what I use anyhow.  then man proftpd.06:51
mzalimhello06:52
IIIEarsHi06:52
metalsandbob2: I'm literally directly on top of my router (acting AP), and I've connected to my network using this exact setup (Senao NL 2551 Plus Ext + 10 dBi omni direction antenna) houndreds of feet away in Windows06:52
bob2Cybermagellan: ftp is a pretty terrible method to transfer files with06:52
bob2metalsand: ok!06:52
mzalimi'm new to ubuntu and new to chat06:52
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IIIEarsDive right in wuth any questions you might have we don't bite.06:52
mzalimcan somebody guide me06:52
deFryskmzalim, what else is new ;)06:52
metalsandbob2: So why does the card think it's out of range?06:52
bob2metalsand: no idea06:53
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pablo921 bob2,what's a better way to transfer files?06:53
sitaOk first I don't know witch one to move./  I have the favorites that are in the Doc and settings folder under my windows user name and then there is  bookmarks.html06:53
mzalimnew to your world maybe, deFrysk06:53
metalsandbob2: So what do you recommend I do now?06:53
deFryskhehe mzalim06:53
IIIEarsbookmarks.html?06:53
metalsandGo to a different distro?06:53
bob2pablo921: rsync, sftp, webdav06:53
bob2metalsand: try a different card06:53
IIIEarsbookmarks.html sounds pretty good.06:53
z3k3scp06:53
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metalsandmetalsand: What purpose would that serve? I know both the card and the PCMCIA work.06:54
darGori change eSound, for alsa Sound. in  gstreamer-properties , where i can change the esd for alsa??06:54
njokaQ_Continuum: and IIIEars: have you found where to import it, or if in linux it has an import, inside bookmarks, manage bookmarks?06:54
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bob2metalsand: because something about the card is probably fucked, it just isn't manifested under windows06:54
deFryskfirst thing I usually do with hardware = checking it for linux compatibility06:54
sigmetalsand: dude, that card is obviously not worth it06:54
metalsand...06:55
mzalimi'm using ubuntu but my old computer which only have 16 MB mem is struggling with DSL06:55
metalsandThe reason I got this card was the fact that it's so supported in Linux06:55
njokabob2: such harsh words...06:55
bob2metalsand: try another and prove me wrong06:55
pablo921bob2, I copied those to see if my webhost supports those. thanks.06:55
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bob2pablo921: if you have ssh access, you can almost certainly use rsync or sftp.06:55
dabaSlon_othermzalim: hello...06:55
sigI bet I could get the card working06:55
mzalimapt-get the samba give error with logrotate unconfigured06:55
mzalimanyone can help06:55
bob2pablo921: more and more do webdav now, too, since windows does "web folders" over webdav06:56
dabaSlon_othermzalim: hey, a, like running gnome?06:56
metalsandsig: So help me out06:56
bob2metalsand: or maybe the linux drivers (all 3 of them) are screwed06:56
Q_Continuumnjoka: it should, AFAIK...like it does on windows.06:56
bob2it's unlikely but possible06:56
metalsandsig: No one else can get it working06:56
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dabaSlon_othersita: are you running ubuntu now?06:56
pablo921 bob2:never rellychecked...been using ftp,but w9ith some problems06:56
bob2pablo921: the main issues with ftp are that it doesn't play nice with NAT, and it sends your username and password out in cleartext06:57
mzalimdabaSlon_other, no just  --- file and printer sharing06:57
dabaSlon_othermzalim: oh, ok...06:57
pablo921 bob2:i didn't know that06:57
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mzalimdabaSlon_other, any idea06:58
metalsandThis is really depressing.06:58
bob2indeed06:59
metalsandIs this really not possible to get working given the current software...06:59
bob2dude06:59
bob2no one knows06:59
IIIEarsmzalim - i haven't tried Ubuntu anything with less than 128 megs of ram. - (only 2 weeks using linux) - It might be more responsive with a different window manager "Flux Box" in place of gnome.06:59
bob2you have a very odd view on how all this works06:59
metalsandSomeone HAS to have used this card in Ubuntu06:59
bob2no, not neccessarily06:59
dabaSlon_othermzalim: nope, Im a new Linux user.06:59
metalsandbob2: I've been here a week, that's a given.06:59
bob2maybe it just doesn't work at all06:59
tritiummetalsand, we've all spent quite a bit of time trying to help you out07:00
bob2metalsand: as I've said numerous times, IRC is a terrible medium for everything07:00
metalsandtritium: I'm not denying that07:00
dabaSlon_otherbob2: so, you think if you were there you could do it?07:00
dabaSlon_otheror something?07:00
bob2possibly07:00
metalsandtritium: What do you think? What do you think I should do? I'm to the point where I'm doing the exact same software installations again, just for the hell of it.07:00
mzalimanybody, have an idea where to find all these, I've tried (and tired) looking at forum07:00
XaeHi all... quick question =x07:00
Xaelilo is failing on Install?07:00
dabaSlon_otherso, are you saying it is a GUI thing, then????07:01
Xaeand anyone know how to fix it =x07:01
bob2Xae: don't install lilo then07:01
dabaSlon_otherXae: on what?07:01
bob2Xae: why don't you want to use grub?07:01
dabaSlon_otherlet me guess...07:01
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Xaebob2: im installing from the CD...07:01
Xaeis grub an option?07:01
bob2Xae: grub is the default07:01
tritiummetalsand, depends on if you can return the card from where you bought it...07:01
Q_Continuumgrub is default...07:01
crimsunmetalsand: what make & manufacturer laptop?07:01
deFryskgrub = default07:01
bob2how old is this CD?07:01
dabaSlon_otherbob2: heh...07:01
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metalsandtritium: I'm not returning this card07:01
Xaestrange, because its tryingt o install lilo...07:01
Q_Continuumhoary 5.04 is current.07:01
XaeI just downloaded it, 5.0407:01
metalsandI know there's support for it out the ass.07:01
dabaSlon_otherdid you catch my question up there?07:01
tritiummetalsand, what convinced you that it's so supported in linux?07:02
bob2dabaSlon_other: I don't understand it07:02
Xae... I decided to "Continue without bootloader"07:02
chris_ubuntuIs there a gui tool for installing and formating a slave hd in ubuntu os?07:02
dabaSlon_otherthats cool...07:02
deFryskXae, sure its not Mandriva ? ;p07:02
XaedeFrysk: yes...07:02
dabaSlon_otherXae: I asked you a question, but dont mind me...07:02
dabaSlon_other:)07:02
dabaSlon_otherIm in a bad mood, as you can telll....07:02
bob2chris_ubuntu: no07:03
metalsandtritium: The reason I got this card wasn't so I could connect to my home network with - it's engineering is superior to almost all wireless PCMCIA cards, the prism 2 chipset is the most supported over all of Linux and it's output power is 200mW, the average card is around 40.07:03
IIIEarsmzalim - please, take this as helpful and not an offense. you can find a new computer with 128 meg of ram and newer hardware on newegg.com for under 200 hundred dollars. - it'll be much easier.07:03
chris_ubuntubob2: Will I have to go through a command line configuration for this?07:03
XaedabaSlon_other: on a Logical Volume Group (2 x 160gb hdd...)07:03
bob2chris_ubuntu: yup07:03
metalsandMeaning, in some cases it's 3 times as senstive. The card comes default with 2 external antenna connectors, to which I have a 10 dBi omni directional high-gain antenna currently hooked up07:03
tritiummetalsand, the mini PCI?07:03
dabaSlon_otherXae: wow, ok...07:03
metalsandNo07:03
lorenhow much work does it take to complete a bootloader?07:03
metalsandthe PCMCIA card07:03
Q_Continuumbob2: isn't there gpart that chris_ubuntu could use?07:04
bob2Q_Continuum: no idea07:04
bob2loren: to write one?07:04
IIIEarsI would run puppy linux on your machine ubuntu might be too much to ask of it.07:04
Q_ContinuumI seem to remember installing that, which is a gui clone of partition magic for Linux.07:04
XaeI've still got the fedora bootloader installed to the best of my knowledge :S07:04
lorenbob2: to either write one or convert one to native07:04
chris_ubuntuQ_Continuum: please say more07:04
mzalimIIIears, thanks, but there are about 30 units of it.07:04
metalsandWiFi is a hobby I picked up, I researched my hardware thourougly.07:04
Xaeokay... Grub appears =p haha now what =x07:04
bob2loren: I don't know what "convert one to native" means07:04
bob2loren: but writing one is pretty complicated, since you have to know exactly how the boot sequence on that hardware works07:05
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tritiummetalsand, how is diversity gain processed on that?  in hardware, or in driver?07:05
bob2certainly beyond my abilities07:05
Q_Continuumin the Synaptic Package Manager there should be a gpart as an option...if not, you need to add more sources to your apt-get/synaptics list07:05
metalsandtritium: hardware07:05
Xaebob2: I am at the grub command line now... :S07:05
lorenbob2: ahh, that's true, what about porting one to be working perfectly under ubuntu and then releasing a .deb or something to the universe im curious as to what you would guess as far as effort and time07:05
metalsandOutput power, overall antenna gain... Reciever power, overall reciever gain, factored in with whatever you have degrading the RF signal (Walls, trees, air)07:05
crimsunmetalsand: make & manufacturer of laptop?07:05
metalsandDell 700m07:06
mzalimpreviously run on W98SE but BSA is coming and some do not have the licenses.07:06
bob2loren: what do you mean by "porting one to be working perfectly under ubuntu"?07:06
bob2loren: grub works perfectly under ubuntu07:06
Q_Continuumouch07:06
lorenbob2: well if you install say rhbg won't it not work exactly like it should since it's designed for Redhat07:06
tritiummetalsand, but when you have diversity antennas, this requires additional signal processing.  Are you sure it's done in hardware?07:06
metalsandBrand new.. Got it 60% off, saved over $800 with a yearly coupon code by Dell07:06
Xaebob2: I'm at the grub command line (I dont know how to load the OS now...)07:06
Xaeor even better, install lilo or some sort of other bootloader =x07:07
bob2loren: I don't know what "rhbg" is07:07
dabaSlon_otherhaha, metalsand, I love that saveing attitude with dell......07:07
bob2Xae: ...07:07
crimsunmetalsand: the 700m has an intel 2915 wireless, no?07:07
bob2Xae: install ubuntu and let it install grub07:07
lorenbob2: Redhat Bootloader, it's their GUI Bootloader07:07
chris_ubuntuthanks Q_Continuum07:07
Xaebob2: I did07:07
chris_ubuntuI am downloading now07:07
Xaeit failed on the "bootloader" section of things07:07
Q_Continuumchris_ubuntu, glad to help :-)07:07
mzalimthanks everybody............. i'm leaving, maybe i'm in a wrong channel.07:07
metalsandcrimsun: The one I got did. I, however, upgraded... I think it comes defualt with the 2200 A/B07:07
bob2Xae: then something went terrible wrong, it should give you a list of things to boot07:07
dabaSlon_otherwhat kinda pc iis it, xae?07:07
bob2loren: no, it's not their bootloader07:07
Xaebob2: that is called Lilo (and it failed)07:08
metalsandcrimsun: The 2915 worked out of the install07:08
tritiummetalsand, and my question?07:08
Q_Continuummzalim, good luck.07:08
bob2loren: it's their graphical init thing07:08
IIIEarslinux will be refreshing after running win98 - 98 has too many exploits out for it. - too difficult to keep it running. the linux kernel keeps it's device drivers running in a seperate memory space so it will also be more stable.07:08
bob2loren: right?07:08
lorenbob2: no idea lol07:08
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bob2loren: what does it do?07:08
lorenbob2: im just trying to get a GUI boot thing working lol07:08
metalsandtritium: Sorry, I was half way into typing it - To tell you the truth, I'm not sure.07:08
lorenbob2: It Graphically Boots linux it's ontop of grub and erm i htink it's on top of grub and just is graphical07:08
lorenbob2: that's all07:08
lorenbob2: progress bar07:09
dabaSlon_otherit is an rpm, right, loren?07:09
bob2loren: grub should run in < one second07:09
bob2I really think it's just a wrapper on init07:09
metalsandPeople have gotten the prism2 chipset to work in Ubuntu. Drivers for the Prism2/2.5/3 aren't supported on the install, but people have gotten them to work.07:09
lorenbob2: really? hmmh that's good news07:09
chris_ubuntuFor those linux advocates on this channel, there seems to be an idea that to use this OS one should be willing to learn how to work from a command line and be a power user....07:09
metalsandI don't understand why this Senao card would make any differnce07:09
lorendabaSlon_other: i found the RPM, but kubuntu doesn't support RPMS07:09
crimsunmetalsand: have you gotten the pcmcia kernel modules loaded?07:09
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metalsandcrimsun: yes, with no errors07:09
bob2chris_ubuntu: this isn't an advocacy channel07:09
dabaSlon_othermetalsand: and you did not find anywhere that it does not work, just that it does, hey?07:10
chris_ubuntuThis box I am configing is for a vacation home where family stays....07:10
metalsandcrimsun: currently I went thorugh this guide: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary07:10
bob2chris_ubuntu: if you're not ready to learn to use the command line sometimes, then yes, you will have tourble with ubuntu at the moment07:10
Q_Continuumchris_ubuntu, that's because that's what most of us know...the truely working GUI stuff for most command-line options are only now coming out.07:10
metalsandcrimsun: modprobe prism2_cs shows no errors07:10
dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: funny...07:10
bob2chris_ubuntu: but using it should not require the command line, just configuration07:10
metalsandlsmod grep prism2 shows about 5 differnt things.07:10
dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: what do you need to be a super user for?07:11
chris_ubuntuso I don't think it is reasonable for my 67 year old mother to use some non gui dial up method07:11
IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - i understand comepletly - only used linux for a couple of weeks myself. - there really aren't many commands to learn before you can do useful things. HANG IN THERE buddy! :)07:11
metalsandSo it's being used, it just isn't working.07:11
Q_Continuumchris_ubuntu, there is work to make more and more GUI, but the first goal of most Linux programmers is to get the system working, not to make it pretty.  GUI is secondary to stability and capability, if you get what I mean.07:11
bob2chris_ubuntu: sure, but as I said, she doesn't need to07:11
chris_ubuntuI would really like to config this so it works and I dont have to buy another MS op sys07:11
dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: it is a different OS, that is for sure...a Unix, I knew some Unix b4, and it is completely natural, but I grew up on Dos, and Windows, later...07:11
metalsandI really like Ubuntu - and I want to get this working, but I'm finally running out of motivation07:11
bob2chris_ubuntu: she can use the gnome panel applet to turn it off and on07:12
crimsunmetalsand: do you have any physical identification on the card itself?07:12
dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: let me tell you, Unix is easier to use, but....the issue is that you are probably not even familiar with the concept of even something as aliasing..., so it is harder for you to use it, yes...07:12
metalsandWhat kind of identification are you looking for?07:12
crimsunmetalsand: name, id, serial, etc.07:13
Xaeinstallation of lilo fails (error code 1)07:13
Q_Continuum(non-ubuntu question) what's the way to talk to authserv again for help? lol07:13
dabaSlon_otherxae, ok, a long shot, is it a PPC?07:13
metalsandSenao 2511CD Plus Ext207:13
XaedabaSlon_other: its an Intel Celeron 1ghz machine, with 512 mb ram, and 2 x 160GB WD HDD07:13
metalsandS/N: 04A23663407:13
bob2Q_Continuum: /msg nickserv help07:14
metalsandFCC ID: N13-2511CD-Plus307:14
Q_Continuumgrr...I was thining authserv...stupid gamesurge lol07:14
dabaSlon_otherand you have a kubuntu install, from a hoary cd that you just downloaded?07:14
chris_ubuntuPaid support has it's pluses.  I would gladly pay to get these issues resolved on a box which will be stable and easy for non-computer proficient members of my family to use07:14
fsapohi, i ve just converted some files to DVD and now i have AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS, just burning these 2 folders in the dvd as data is enough for it to play on dvd players?07:14
Q_Continuumlol I saw FCC and somehow thought NCC, ala Star Trek ship #'s lol07:14
bob2heh, I thought you were refering to LP07:14
bob2fsapo: I'm pretty sure that won't work07:14
bob2aiui dvd burners can't make things dvd players can play07:15
bob2chris_ubuntu: sure, you can buy paid support from Canonical07:15
fsapobob2, why not? :(07:15
dabaSlon_otherfsapo: did you mean isnt enough?07:15
bob2chris_ubuntu: email info@canonical.com for a quote07:15
bob2fsapo: because the people who designed the DVD format don't like you07:15
chris_ubuntubob2: I emailed canonical for a quote over 24 hours ago.  No response.07:15
dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: did you read my posts?07:15
chris_ubuntudabaSlon_other: No, just above?07:16
metalsandcrimsun: What do you need this for?07:16
fsapobob2, :( i spent 12 hours encoding it, and i read that it works but i m not sure if it will play on dvd players :(07:16
XaeYou will need to boot manually with the /vmlinuz kernel on partiition /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 and root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 passed as kernel argument07:16
dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: there are two main ones...07:16
metalsandDoes gentoo use Gnome?07:16
chris_ubuntudabaSlon_other: above?07:16
IIIEarsaw - geez - chris_ubuntu - you were here so you could be told there was a way to pay for info? - i think not - stick around or check in a bit later someone has a free answer for you.07:16
bob2metalsand: gentoo uses whatever you want, just like ubuntu07:16
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dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: no, below, dude./..07:17
fsapoeven me menu looks pretty :( http://img206.echo.cx/my.php?image=chrno7oz.jpg07:17
fsapomy*07:17
dabaSlon_otheryes, very pretty...07:17
Xaeblah =\ im gonna put fedora back on if its gonna be this hard to get it to boot lol07:18
crimsunmetalsand: which wlan-ng version are you using?07:18
dabaSlon_otherone of the prettier menus I ve seen in a while.07:18
fsapodabaSlon, haha07:18
fsapodabaSlon, i ll try burning it, hope it works :(07:18
tritiummetalsand, just a thought, have you tried disabling the diversity antennas?  There's no need for it if youve got clear line-of-sight (little multipath fading to deal with)07:18
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: I have more money than time on these issues.  I hope you guys can work to make this a realistic system for users like myself.  This type of chat wont work for users like me07:18
metalsandcrimsun: linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre2607:18
dabaSlon_otherOMG, I hope so too, lest it ruin one dvd-/+r.....07:18
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chris_ubuntuIIIEars: I certainly believe in the linux / freeware concept, but this is too frusterating a process07:19
metalsandtritium: I haven't thouht of that. I believe as long as you have the card hooked up to the primary recieve/send jack there would be no problems07:19
IIIEarsxae - lol - Ubuntu should work smoothly as dual boot and it can if you know how to edit the bootmenu.lst - though it has only worked first time for me when it didn't share the drive with another OS.07:19
metalsandIs that a none issue in Linux?07:19
bob2chris_ubuntu: did you email support@canonical or info@?07:19
dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: you need to read a little, or use windows, they are free, you know...?07:19
bob2chris_ubuntu: I may have given you the wrong address, sorry.07:19
chris_ubuntubob2: Yes, and haven't hear anything back from canonical07:20
chris_ubuntufor about 24 hours07:20
bob2chris_ubuntu: ok07:20
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tritiummetalsand, I'm just trying to think of things that could be complicating our diagnosis of the problem.  It's worth a try.07:20
dabaSlon_otherMan...you americans really have issues, but whatever, as you please...07:20
tritiumdabaSlon_other, ?07:20
dabaSlon_otherwhatever...07:21
crimsunmetalsand: have you configured /etc/wlan/* ?07:21
metalsandtritium: I've used it in Windows with my current setup and did not need to use the 2nd antenna jack... Would that for some reason be an issue07:21
metalsandcrimsun: Yes.07:21
dabaSlon_othertritium: either scroll up, or dont, I mean...I am not gonna repeat everything I said...07:21
chris_ubuntudabaSlon_other: That is the exact assumption that makes this frusterating.  I have very little time to commit to this type of endeavor.  This is why I pay.07:21
tritiummetalsand, like I said, I don't know.  It's worth a try, though07:21
metalsandcrimsun: I'm not 100% they're current, but I followed the instrutions perfectly07:21
dabaSlon_otherRight, so, Use windows, why are you even trying to use somehting else?07:21
tritiumdabaSlon_other, but the generalized comment...07:21
IIIEarschris_ubuntu - this isn't as easy to install as windows. it seems more like luck with some devices. - you might try logging IRC chat all night and then doing a text search to see if someone else asked and got an answer to your question.07:21
chris_ubuntuBut windows is a very frusterating option also, as it crashes, is suseptable to spyware, etc07:22
crimsunmetalsand: this README notes that you can't use iwconfig with prism2_cs07:22
dabaSlon_othertritium: not generalized, very specific.07:22
metalsandcrimsun: Correct07:22
tritiumdabaSlon_other, "you americans", as you put it...07:22
crimsunmetalsand: so you've configured /etc/pcmcia/network.opts, etc.?07:22
metalsandcrimsun: Nope :D07:22
dabaSlon_otherI live even in Canada, and never could think of a statement like: (00:11:32) chris_ubuntu: I would really like to config this so it works and I dont have to buy another MS op sys07:22
IIIEarsThe Redmond OS - Install, Connect, Reinstall - repeat.07:22
bob2dabaSlon_other: please?07:23
dabaSlon_otherso, saying that yoiu have some issues in the states...like the copyright issues....is not a generalized statement.07:23
crimsunmetalsand: you may not have to, but ensure that you've configured pcmcia-cs's network config07:23
dabaSlon_otherwhy would you obuy somehting like that?07:23
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metalsandcrimsun: that's a pretty big config, what exactly do I need to ensure is correctly configured?07:23
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bob2dabaSlon_other: this is not a warez channel07:23
dabaSlon_otherbut, whatever, that is all I have to say about that...since you dont wanna think about reality...07:23
bob2please stop your lame trolling attempt07:24
bob2kthxbye07:24
dabaSlon_otherbob2: if i knew what warez means,....07:24
JDahlIIIEars, I think we've all had troubles getting hardware working in Linux - that's something you just have to suck up if you want to use it07:24
bob2awesome07:24
tritiumdabaSlon_other, please don't accuse me of anything.  I'm not in the modd.07:25
tritiummood07:25
dabaSlon_otherI dont even, I am tellingthe guy the truth...maybe not so polilte, but it is...anyhow. If you want me to shut uip, you can say so...07:25
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IIIEarsJDahl - I agree the time invested pays off big dividends. - wide grin07:25
XaeAnyone here know about the LVM & the ubuntu installer??07:25
dabaSlon_otheracuse?07:25
bob2dabaSlon_other: thanks07:25
crimsunmetalsand: are you using stock pcmcia-modules?07:25
chris_ubuntuI can see why this OS doesn't get a wide user base.  It is a wonderful Idea, but someone needs to marry it up with a service model that works for the general market.  Reading the man pages is a poor recomendation for many07:25
crimsunmetalsand: and wireless-tools?07:25
bob2chris_ubuntu: dude07:25
bob2chris_ubuntu: it's been less than 24 hours, and you've tried once, please don't make generalisations07:25
metalsandcrimsun: For the prism2_cs drivers? Or the PCMCIA modules that came off the CD?07:25
dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: I had my Linux installed by a buddy from school...07:25
metalsandcrimsun: Yes, I have wireless tools installed07:25
dabaSlon_otherYou have some weird hardware or something?07:25
jsgotangcochris_ubuntu, im one of the people fixing the current packaged documentation, its not an easy task but doable if we had more people contributing help07:26
crimsunmetalsand: I take it then that you're not using stock pcmcia-modules07:26
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metalsandcrimsun: You're talking about the modules that are behind the functioning of the PCMCIA slot, right? Not the modules for the drivers for my card...07:26
dabaSlon_otherchris_ubuntu: I solve like 25 ppls probllems every day, but installing a system onto a hardware that does not support it...that is not that easy...07:26
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metalsandIf so, yes I'm using the stock PCMCIA modules07:26
crimsunmetalsand: correct07:27
chris_ubuntujsgotangco: Well, you need a revenue stream to pay those people to work.   I am not a MS fan, but that is something they have figured out07:27
bob2dabaSlon_other: that's not chris_ubuntu's probelm.07:27
dabaSlon_otheranyhow, thats what I had to say, sorry about that.07:27
Ajaxxanyone here know how to configure xorg w/ twinview for 3 LCDs?07:27
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Xaegonna assume no one here knows how to use the Logical Volume Manager in the ubuntu installer :(07:27
crimsunAjaxx: check the README in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/, and also see sh.nu/nvidia's example XF86Config07:27
IIIEarsjsgotangco - If all you have heard so far is negatives. let me clear something up - Ubuntu is great in large part because of the documentation. - i am very grateful to you.07:28
bob2Xae: try asking on the ubuntu-user list07:28
dabaSlon_otherbob2: read what he said...07:28
bob2tho, that has the same problem as here, which is few knowledgable users willing to help07:28
Ajaxxcrimsun: but does it explain how to use 3 monitors?07:28
jsgotangcoIIIEars, thanks, but there's so much things to be fixed yet though, but i'm glad work pays off :)07:28
Xaebob2: is not asking the channel the question, asking the user-list?07:28
chris_ubuntuI haven't meant to insult or flame, and I will continue to try this, but it has is has been a real challenge so far.  I really hope this type of community continues to make strides, because it seems to have promise07:28
dabaSlon_otherok, sorry, I must turn thuiis computer off...07:28
dabaSlon_otherhah07:28
crimsunAjaxx: check them out07:29
crimsunAjaxx: if you have further questions _after_ reading the docs, ask Primer in #nvidia07:29
bob2Xae: no, not at all07:29
Ajaxxcrimsun: alright... i will; i just wanted to see if anyone here had done so already07:29
jsgotangcochris_ubuntu, constructive criticisms are always welcome :)07:29
dabaSlon_otherIm in a bad mood, thats for sure...07:29
Ajaxxcrimsun: not wondering how... just want to know *if* and *how difficult if yes*07:29
pablo921bob2, but i am learning much from those that do know!07:29
jsgotangcoin the end, we're all learning, aye07:30
metalsandcrimsun: Is that all you wanted of me?07:30
dabaSlon_otherIm sorry guys, buut one of the biggest challenges in my life happened today, and I guess I got caught in it, I apol9ogize to anyone I offended, or upset...and tritium, I did not mean to acuse you, and if I did, sorry about that...RESPECT...07:30
crimsunAjaxx: yes, it's definitely doable; I ran one such config earlier last year07:30
IIIEars<< ( throws a whoopee cushion at dabasalon then ducks behind a chair.)07:30
Xaescrew it :) im installing fedora =\07:30
Xaenite all07:30
Ajaxxcrimsun: ok thanks! that's exactly what i was looking for :)07:30
tritiumdabaSlon, sorry to hear that.  I hope you're doing okay.07:30
crimsunmetalsand: for now, yes. Sorry, I'm busy looking for hints to help you.07:30
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ikhi07:30
Q_Continuumhello.07:31
z3k3Xae: google.07:31
z3k3Xae:   :)07:31
iki have problems whith sound, before it was ok, but now i cant listen anything :(07:31
IIIEarsxae - Ubuntuwiki _ :)07:32
crimsunik: cat /proc/asound/cards07:32
pablo921jsgotangco, my congratulations to all that have contributed. Ubuntu is my 1st linux distro and i'm quite content.07:32
ikok07:32
crimsunik: then, paste the output of amixer onto http://pastebin.com07:32
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ikok07:33
XaeI checked the wiki07:33
Xaeand I googled it07:33
Xaeboth useless for what im trying to do =\07:33
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z3k3Xae: What are you trying to do?07:33
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Xae(ie, a make a ... virtual raid between two HDDs... via the Logical Volume Manager)07:33
XaeNamely turn 2 x 160gb hdd, into a virtual 320gb hdd07:34
bob2it's not "virtual raid"07:34
z3k3oh.. raid 007:34
bob2please don't confuse the issue further07:34
z3k3?07:34
tritiumXae, a post to the the mailing list might get you better response.  There might not be many here who have attempted what you're trying to do.07:34
Xaeuhmm if thats what its called z3k307:34
iki send it to pastebin.com?07:34
IIIEarsUbuntu is the best - i have tried everything from floppix and tmsrtbt to the trial offer from Sun - this is wonderful07:34
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ikcrimsun i send it to pastebin.com?07:36
crimsunik: have you?07:37
ikas php or any?07:38
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dabaSlontritium: heh, thanks, nothing a little bit of green wont fix for now, and the worst is I have to sit back, relax, and wait...and it is likely not to be a short wait...either...07:38
Seveas*ding* *dong*07:39
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tritiumdabaSlon, sorry :(07:39
SeveasGood $DAYTIME everyone!07:39
dabaSlonyeah. its a pretty tough situation, but, no excuse to lash out...07:39
IIIEarshello Seveas - $DAYTIME = "Hello World"07:40
crimsunik: any07:40
ikok07:40
dabaSlonSo, tough it out, as my dad used to say(not)...and thats the last of pity towards myself for the night...:)07:40
pablo921Seveas,daytime? where are you? It's almost 11 pm herew in arizona, usa.07:41
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Xaeits ~3am here07:41
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_natehow do you get rid of the root password once you set it?  I want to go back to how it was07:42
Seveasit's 7 45 am here07:42
Seveasand here == the netherlands07:42
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dabaSlon_nate: how did you set it?07:42
IIIEars<< 'net addict it isn't dark out until i turn off the monitor - lol07:42
pablo921 Xae,and you're still awake?07:42
_natedabaSlon: sudo passwd07:42
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coryvHi07:42
_natedabaSlon: i want to go back to how it was before i set it07:42
dabaSlonyo...07:42
Seveassudo passwd root07:43
johnnybezakhey guys for some reason my ipod is automounting read-only, i can't seem to work out how to make it mount rw, it worked yesterday but now it doesn't any ideas?07:43
coryvI have a dumb question07:43
dabaSlonnope...07:43
Seveasoh i missed the point :)07:43
dabaSlonbut, go ahead...07:43
Seveas_nate, sudo passwd -L root07:43
Seveasthat'll remove it07:43
dabaSlonSeveas: good stuff.07:43
crimsunik: ok, that's /proc/asound/cards, but now I need amixer output07:43
Xaepablo921: yes, ive been trying to get damn ubuntu working ;p07:43
IIIEarsgood tip07:43
johnnybezakcoryv: shoot07:43
coryvI downloaded the Ubuntu AMD64 Install CD... when I burn it.. do I just burn it as downloaded or must I burn a certain part of it in certain order07:43
coryv?07:44
Seveasjohnnybezak, can you paste the output of 'mount' on ubuntu.pastebin.com please07:44
dabaSlonis it a .iso?07:44
johnnybezakyeah just burn the iso07:44
johnnybezakSeveas:07:44
dabaSlonburn as cd image...07:44
johnnybezakSeveas: ok07:44
coryvWell there's tons of stuff on this CD07:44
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dabaSloncoryv: it should be one .iso file...07:44
dholbachhello07:44
coryvin the isolinux directory?07:44
dabaSlonam I righgt here?07:44
dabaSlonyo, dholbach07:45
Seveascoryv, i suppose you have downloaded the iso? if not, than you didn't download the correct file :)07:45
ikcrimsun ok07:45
dabaSloncoryv: is there a lot of .iso files in that directory?07:45
dabaSlon:)07:45
ikcrimsun u mean totem?07:45
coryvThere appears to be none, lol07:45
coryvCan someone link me?07:45
Seveasoops gotta go now, bus leaves in 10 minutes and it's a 9 minute walk07:45
IIIEarscoryv - if you need a free iso tool for windows "ISOPowertoy" by alex feinman M$ windows media center edition devleoper.07:45
IIIEarsLinux is so cool - been burning isos all day no problem.07:46
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johnnybezakSeveas: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28251107:46
dabaSlonIm so lostin windows, Im looking around for icons...07:46
metalsandWhy does that make Linux cool? :x07:46
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dabaSlonjohnnybezak: for some reason he quit IRC...07:46
johnnybezakdabaSlon: nooooo hehe07:46
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eruinhaha, I used an xp computer the other day07:47
dabaSlonhehe, maybe just a mitake.07:47
dabaSlons07:47
eruinI was lost07:47
IIIEarsBecause it does so many things natively plus learning one thing leads you to the power of doing several other things with similar commands. - grin07:47
dabaSlonRight, I use some 2k at work...07:47
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eruinseriously I had no idea what to do and where to do it07:47
johnnybezakanyone else here hip to the hal stuff07:47
dabaSlonand in a different setup...07:47
pablo921johnnybezak, he had to go to work, i think.07:47
johnnybezakis there anywhere the prefs. are set07:47
johnnybezakpablo921:k07:47
dabaSloncoryv: jsut a sec07:48
crimsunik: no, I mean amixer07:48
dabaSloncoryv: where are you in the world?07:48
coryvThanks, dabaSlon07:48
NickVaraMorning folks... anyone know where I can get the default / virgin /etc/apt/sources.list... I (well, a combination of a script and I) borked my install.07:48
chris_ubuntuOK, maybe I have alienated anyone who might be willing to assist, but I loaded gparted.  Is there anyone interested in taking this capatalist bastard through the new drive format process07:48
coryvI'm trying to learn how to use Linux07:48
chris_ubuntu?07:48
IIIEarslol - certainly.07:48
dabaSlonhehe, chris_ubuntu, I apologize if I offended you too...07:48
dabaSlonI had no intentions...07:48
dabaSlonat all, just sid what i meant...read it again, I dont think it was very offensive,...07:49
dabaSlonJust alternatives,...07:49
chris_ubuntuWell, I am not offended, but I would like to see this movement gain more traction07:49
chris_ubuntuI really am excited about the idea of using this box07:49
crimsunmetalsand: I need dmesg output after you insert the card into the pcmcia slot07:49
dabaSloncoryv: where are you in teh world, I am gonna link you to the right place...07:49
metalsandcrimsun: On it07:49
coryvUS07:49
ikcrimsun i dont know where is that07:49
Razor-Xjust as before, every time I switch back to Windows, from Linux, it feels so pedantic....07:50
IIIEarschris_ubuntu - did you want a dual boot set up?07:50
Razor-Xand slow, very _very_ slow07:50
metalsandcrimsun: linkstatus=DISCONNECTED (unhandled)07:50
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: no, just reformat a slave HD for some additional storage space07:50
metalsandlinkstatus=ASSOCFAIL (unhandled)07:50
dabaSloncoryv: do you have a torrent downloader isntalled?07:50
_nateRazor-X: and unstable, and soooo constricted07:50
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: I just popped it into the box as a slave07:50
coryvno07:50
NickVaraAnyone? I need /etc/apt/sources.list as it was initially installed on Hoary Hedgehog...07:50
metalsandlast two lines, directly after Prism2 card SN: my SN I told you earlier x00 x00 x0007:51
Razor-X_nate: yes and yes07:51
eruinhttp://appelsinjuice.org/ <-- :)07:51
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: I am looking in the gparted gui, but don't see anything to reformat.07:51
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IIIEarsRazor-X - the reason windows is so slow is all of the life support assist apps hanging on it. anti-virus,anti-spyware, anti-registry tampering, firewalls, etc07:51
dabaSloncoryv, consider it, it is likely faster... http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent , or if not... http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-live-amd64.iso07:51
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dabaSlonand safer, more likely to download correctly.07:51
Razor-XNickVara: go on the Ubuntu guide, and there's an unmodified sources.list when it teaches you how to add extra repositories07:51
eruinIIIEars: actually, cedega running on my ubuntu install runs games much faster than a clean windows install07:52
IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - just delete and recreate the partition s you need they will be quick formatted and ready to use.07:52
Razor-XIIIEars: yeah, I know, and the fact that all Microsoft partition deviations seem to get slower over time07:52
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eruinwhich is kind of a sad testament to windows' lack of performance07:52
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NickVaraRazor-X... ty... I'll try and find that.07:52
crimsunmetalsand: no, I need all dmesg output -> pastebin07:52
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: Well, don't I need to be able to see it first?07:52
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: In gparted?07:52
metalsandcrimsun: I ripped the internal card out07:52
ikwhich one is the program to install more programs in ubuntu?07:52
crimsunik: open a Terminal, type amixer, and paste its output to pastebin07:53
metalsandcrimsun: I can't acccess the internet right now with the laptop, and I don't have a thumbdrive07:53
eruinik: synaptic07:53
ikcrimsun ok07:53
crimsunmetalsand: "the internal" one being the 2915?07:53
metalsanddo you think if I put back in my interal wireless card it could conflict07:53
ikeruin thanks :)07:53
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu: are you running ubuntu, and just want to reformat a second hard drive?07:53
metalsandYes, crimsun07:53
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: yes, exactly07:53
coryvcool thanks, dabaSlon07:53
IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - i have to come clean i don't use gpart qtparted, fdisk, and cfdisk are better for me.07:53
metalsandI'm on my Desktop07:53
crimsunmetalsand: ok, that's going to make troubleshooting difficult07:53
dabaSlonyup...07:53
metalsandcrimsun: Do you want me to put the internal card back in?07:54
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu: hm...is there anything you want to keep on that hard drive?07:54
crimsunmetalsand: that would certainly help, yes07:54
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: No, it can get wiped clean07:54
metalsandcrimsun: I'll do that now07:54
metalsandcrimsun: How much later will you be up?07:54
crimsunfor a few hours, but I can't do this all night07:54
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: It is going to hold some awful religious music MP3's for my mother.07:54
metalsandK07:55
metalsandI'm shutting down my latpop, then I'll throw the internal card back in07:55
metalsandand hope I didn't break that :#07:55
metalsand:#07:55
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu: see...that is exactly what I was telling you...gtparted is a gui, and you just wanna format a hard drive...it is like using partition magic for that in windows...you should be using a Unix command...like, cfdisk...07:55
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dabaSlonthat will give you everything you need, you just had an approach, and I told you that you should view it differently..from a command line perspective...sicne your mom wont be doing gtparted anyhow....07:56
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: You will have to walk me through it line by line.  There is no way for me to spend the time required to learn those commands07:56
ikcrimsun it now there :)07:56
IIIEarschris_ubuntu - you can add and delete partitions quickly. - if you get into trouble gpart complains it can't access the disk reboot and it will access it.07:56
dabaSlonnope, itsd a gui...inside commabnd line...07:56
dabaSlonsudo cfdisk /dev/hdb07:56
dabaSlonand that will show you everything...07:56
dabaSlonmake sure before you do that...07:56
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: OK, so let me do that07:56
blakei'm haveing trouble installing appache and webmin07:56
dabaSlonthat hdb is in fact that hard drive...07:56
dabaSlonby...ls /dev , and pasting that into http://pastebin.com, please.07:57
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: How do I make sure that hdb is in fact that HD?07:57
crimsunik: well, that's simple enough: unmute Master and increase its volume.07:57
dabaSlonhehe, I like ripping Crimsun off for style...07:57
IIIEarsgpart is really best at shrinking and growing partitions - fdisk and cfdisk are quicker at creating new ones07:57
pablo921dabaSlon,thanks i had never heard of cfdisk before. just checked it out. what did i  install gparted for?07:57
crimsunik: open a Terminal, and use alsamixer07:58
crimsunik: press 'm' to unmute07:58
dabaSlonfor resizing hard drives that have something on them...07:58
ikcrimsun ok :)07:58
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: How do I copy that output?  Just select, cut, and paste with the mouse?07:58
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dabaSlonor, use ctrl+c to copy, and ctrl+v to paste...07:58
dabaSloninvest in the long run;)07:58
mebaran151hey07:58
dabaSlonhaha, I am manic depressive today...07:58
mebaran151anyone help me fix a virtualy device07:58
chris_ubuntuOK, so select witht the mouse and use the same MS windows conventions07:58
dabaSlonexactly.07:59
dabaSlonsame GUI conventions.07:59
dabaSlonfor that part...07:59
dabaSlonanother way to do it yourself....07:59
eruinwhat's with the bad mouth?07:59
dabaSlonis to see which place the hard drive is mounted, and to know that way...07:59
dabaSlon/etc/fstab, I think is the file that tells you..08:00
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: OK, I pasted it there08:00
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dabaSlongive me the URL, pls.08:00
dabaSlon:)08:00
mebaran151I need to fix my usb printer08:00
dabaSlonmebaran151: that HP?08:00
mebaran151when I ever I print it08:00
mebaran151it throws an error08:00
mebaran151nope08:00
mebaran151Epson08:00
mebaran151Gimp print driver08:00
dabaSlonwhich epson?08:00
mebaran151that usb device does not exist08:00
mebaran151R80008:01
mebaran151it is supported08:01
mebaran151it worked under warty08:01
blakehey yall if i'ma newbie do yal think i can get apache and webmin ste up tonight?????08:01
dabaSlonis that the one you addded to your printers list?08:01
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: http://pastebin.com/28251508:01
blakehow long do yall think it will take08:01
eruinblake: sudo apt-get install apache2 should do it08:01
ikcrimsun thanks a lot man now its working :)08:01
crimsunik: np08:01
mebaran151this is the error it is throws08:01
blakei have apache108:01
eruinblake: webmin is a bit more tricky ;)08:01
dabaSlonblake, waht site???08:01
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mebaran151now it detects08:02
mebaran151I am confused08:02
blakeyeah i don't even get the concept08:02
mebaran151very confused08:02
blakei got it from08:02
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Here is the hdb line -- hdb      ptyba  ptyq5  ptyv0  ptyzb    tty49  ttyd7  ttys1   ttyt7  ttyy208:02
mebaran151I try to make it through the error and it works08:02
mebaran151that is not nice08:02
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu: at this time, how many partitions do you have on taht hard drive?08:02
blakesynaptc08:02
eruinblake: been a while since I touched webmin, but last time I had to run some weird script to set the admin password for webmin08:02
dabaSlonit actually goes vertically down...08:02
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I don't know.  It is an old NTFS drive.  It can be totally wiped08:02
mebaran151just kill it08:02
eruinblake: I also hear webmin is insecure and totally unfit for ubuntu :P08:02
dabaSlonmebaran151: it is not nice that it works now?08:02
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dabaSlonok, then...do you know which hard drive is the slave and which is the master?08:03
blakewell apache has a firewall that comes with it right?08:03
mebaran151yeah08:03
mebaran151that is just mean08:03
dabaSlonmebaran151: I had teh same issue...08:03
mebaran151because when I need to acutally print it08:03
dabaSlonnothing wrong with that...as long as it works from now on...08:03
dabaSlonoh, yeah, that is bad...08:03
mebaran151the virtual device usb://printer_name08:03
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I know physically.  I have an open box in front of me.  Is that what you mean?08:04
mebaran151sporadically disappears08:04
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dabaSlonok, along the wire the thick but flat wire...08:04
nothingssomethinthis is better08:04
eruinmebaran151: hoary?08:04
dabaSlonwhich hard drive is the one connected to the end of that wire?08:04
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mark345anyone here try ejecting a dvd using the button on their drive, instead of right clicking on the icon on the desktop?08:04
chris_ubuntuslave is on the "terminating" end of the cable inside my box08:04
vergeofimpetusi like that better08:05
vergeofimpetusso it's telling me i need to re configure ..........08:05
IIIEarschris_ubuntu - you will likely ned to double check the bios to see the boot order as many have an option to select which drive is seen first by the installed OS.08:05
eruinmebaran151: this is only a farfetched thought, but maybe http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SystemCrashWhenUnmountingMedia/view?searchterm=inotify%20usb has something to do with it?08:05
dabaSlonnope, slave is on the other connection, the master is at the end of the wire...08:05
vergeofimpetusFor this package to work, you need to modify your /etc/nsswitch.conf to use the ldap datasource.  There is an example file at /usr/share/doc/libnss-ldap/examples/nsswitch.ldap which can be used as an example for your nsswitch setup, or it can be copied over your current setup.08:05
kakaltodoes anyone have an idea of a transcode package?08:05
vergeofimpetus/usr/share/doc/libnss-ldap/examples/nsswitch.ldap08:05
eruinmebaran151: nm, that bug is fixed08:05
mark345nsswitch?08:05
vergeofimpetusdosen't even exist08:05
kakaltoI tried gtranscode, but it won't install08:05
ikany one knows why i can whatch some avi, but some dont?08:06
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu: if you ahve a few secs, I can boot into linux, so you dont screw up...08:06
dabaSlonBut, you can do it if you can read the screen yourself.08:06
mark345some avi files were made in premiere pro08:06
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I have a few secs08:06
dabaSlondo a cfdisk /dev/hdb, for now...08:06
pinSwhats a good ftpd? for my lappy so my buddy can connect08:06
mark345and they have a stupid codec not in ubuntu08:06
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pinSsince im tired of gaim and router forwarind issues08:06
kakaltoahhh08:06
kakaltotranscode isn't available08:06
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Are you suggesting that I actually change my order in which they are plugged in?08:06
kakaltoanyone know where I can get transcode?08:06
kakaltopreferably a dev?08:07
vergeofimpetusdoes someone know apache really well in here08:07
kakalto*deb?08:07
crimsunkakalto: from debian-marillat08:07
metalsandcrimsun: Anything new?08:07
kakaltocrimsun, I have that repo, but I can't find it08:07
raydogg``Is there a how-to on installing the latest kernel from kernel.org on ubuntu?08:07
IIIEarsik - some avi's are encrypted and need to check for a key on the web before they will play.08:07
crimsunmetalsand: waiting for you08:07
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ikIIIEars oh ok08:08
metalsandRight, I have to pastebine that first -.-08:08
talmirI am trying to install vmware but in the install it asks "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  " But they dont seem to be there.. Anyone know the right dir for these files?08:08
raydogg``tal08:08
raydogg``apt-get install linux-headesr08:08
raydogg``apt-get install linux-headers08:08
talmiroh08:08
raydogg``and then re run the vmware install08:08
raydogg``it will auto find them08:08
talmirthanks :P08:09
raydogg``np08:09
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crimsunkakalto: which debian-marilliat branches do you have in your sources.list?08:09
crimsunmetalsand: brb08:09
kakaltocrimsun, ones with #'s before them :P ~FIXED~08:09
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pinSproftpd or proftpd-common?08:10
danko123456chris_ubuntu: you figured it out? it tells you which format the partition is in, how to change it and everything....08:10
chris_ubuntudanko123456: What is the it you are referring to?08:10
IIIEarsthanks raydogg - had the same trouble. - by the way there is a vmware expo in quite a few cities next month - make a visit get a free copy of vmware workstation08:11
danko123456chris_ubuntu: Now, I suggest you make a user for you r mom, without root privilieges...and, install an SSH server for her, so you can sign in...08:11
ikthanks a lot everybody =) bye08:11
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dabaSlonget it?08:11
dabaSlon:)08:11
raydogg``Np IIIEars, the expo sounds intriguing.08:11
chris_ubuntudanko123456: Her "sign in" is going to have to be "wiggling" the mouse so the screen saver stops08:12
dabaSlonhmm?08:12
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu: did you cfdisk /dev/hdb?08:12
dabaSlonin a terminal?08:13
vergeofimpetusis there a command in terminal to open with??08:13
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: not yet.  hang on08:13
dabaSlonsudo cfdisk /dev/hdb08:13
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vergeofimpetusor to open08:13
vergeofimpetuslike a folder08:13
vergeofimpetusor show contents08:13
dabaSlonIm danko, by the way, Chris, nice to meet you:)08:13
kakaltocan anyone help? when I apt-get update, it freezes at 99% of the debian mirrilat repos08:13
dabaSlonspread the Ubuntu...08:13
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: "Fatal Error, cannot open drive, presss any key to continue"08:14
dabaSlondedication to giving to others...:)08:14
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Nice to meet you danko, and thank you for your help08:14
dabaSlonok, then it is a little borked. let me look up my terminal, now that I am in Ubuntu...08:14
liablekakalto: think its a server prob, someone else was having same prob08:14
kakaltowhat am I to do? I want a package from those repos08:14
dabaSlonsame exact thing here....so, let us see what fdisk can tell  us...08:15
liablekakalto: wait :)08:15
IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - thats the error i see a lot don't worry reboot and it disappears. everything it says it did before it complained is as it should be.08:15
crimsunmetalsand: back08:15
kakaltoliable, is there some kind of ftp mirrors for the mirilat repos?08:15
metalsandk08:15
kakaltolike, a place where I can get a package08:15
metalsandGreat08:15
metalsandslashdot.org could not be found08:15
liablekakalto: dont think so08:15
dabaSlonchris+08:15
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: You are suggesting if I reboot and retype the command it will recognize the drive?08:15
metalsandnow my internal card isn't working08:15
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu: all right...08:16
kakaltoliable, :(. Thanks anyway08:16
dabaSlonsudo cfdisk /dev/hdb08:16
crimsunmetalsand: but your 2915 should08:16
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eruincan md5sum be used for simple strings?08:16
metalsandthat's the one I'm talking about08:16
dabaSlonIIIEars: hehe...newb...08:16
ggibeaucan anyone help me with something?08:16
lunatechi wanted all the packages in the universe repository for offline install.. is there a ISO available for that ?08:16
dabaSlonmaybe, anyhow...08:16
IIIEarsyes - did you use "sudo"08:16
liablekakalto: try emailing the admin, they may not know08:16
crimsunmetalsand: does it have an ip assigned?08:16
metalsandI'm checking now08:16
dabaSlonkakalto: comment it out for now...do you need it now?08:16
metalsandI commited out some stuff in /etc/network/interfaces because I wasn't using the card08:17
kakaltoI would like it now, 'cause a package I want is in there08:17
IIIEarslol - i am a seasoned newb - 2 weeks - lol08:17
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: The sudo command above is for me to try, yes?08:17
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu is quiet, he likes cfdisk, I bet...08:17
dabaSlonright...08:17
dabaSlonok, sorry08:17
dabaSlon:)08:17
dabaSlonyoull like cfdisk, I bet ...08:17
metalsandJust got an IP, crimsun: I'm up08:17
IIIEarsyes sudo cfdisk08:17
metalsandSo, you want all of dmesg in pastebin?08:17
vergeofimpetusdoes anyone know how to configure /etc/nsswitch.conf file for apache08:17
kakaltodabaSlon, I'll just google it, hopefullly I won't have too many dependancy problems.08:18
dabaSlonkakalto: what are you trying to get?08:18
kakaltotranscode08:18
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: SOMETHING HAPPENED!  Oh my, we have contact!08:18
kakaltoI looked on the debian database, but it's not tehre08:19
IIIEarschris_ubuntu - rofl08:19
ggibeauanyone know why my audio/video wont sync in gxine?08:19
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu: I bet yuou like cfdisk?08:19
chris_ubuntuwhat is rofl?08:19
dabaSlonchris_ubuntu: does it show the partition as ntfs?08:19
cafuegoAny mac mini/hoary users here?08:19
dabaSlongoogle it... I have to all the time with these IRC abbrevs...08:19
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chris_ubuntuyep, I always format in NTFS on my win boxes08:19
IIIEars"rolling on the floor laughing" - don't worry it is a good thing. - grin08:19
crimsunkakalto: transcode isn't in debian, no. It's in marillat.08:19
chris_ubuntuand it shows it08:20
dabaSlonPCMCIA ok, so it is shown as ntfs?08:20
dabaSlongreat08:20
metalsandcrimsun: http://pastebin.com/28251908:20
kakaltocrimsun, but marillat's list is down at the moment08:20
dabaSlonwell, follow the gui:)08:20
kakaltoor atleast I can't get it08:20
kakaltoso I can't get transcode from there08:20
crimsunkakalto: so wait a few hours08:20
dabaSloncrimsun: you could get the packages for him, and even the dependencies, righty?08:20
kakaltocrimsun, I've had this same problem for a few weeks08:20
dabaSlonno y:)08:20
crimsunkakalto: it was up earlier for me08:20
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kakaltocrimsun, well, I'm unlucky, and can't get it when it's up. therefore google is the answer, yes?08:21
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: OK, this reminds me of my old "Pine" days in collage.  I can handle this, but which option to reformat?08:21
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: "Delete"?08:21
dabaSlondelete first, then create in empty space, yes...08:21
dabaSlonsame as anywhere...08:21
dabaSlonwell, not same..08:21
dabaSlon:(08:21
pablo921 crimsun:is the marillat server problem why i cn't install dvdrip?08:21
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Primary or Logical?08:22
dabaSlonstill kinda stresses\dut...08:22
IIIEarsCrimsun - I keep installing packages and nothing breaks. synaptic can't be any good.  - lol08:22
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crimsunpablo921: if dvdrip is in the marillat repo, yes08:22
dabaSlonanything, chris, you have as many wrong choices as you want...08:22
crimsunIIIEars: yes, it must be bad =)08:22
difetaI have a gnome keyboard shortcut setup to raise and lower my soudn volume, but it seems to be adjusting the sound of the card I'm not using. How can i solve this problem?08:22
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: OK, but I assume I don't want to toggle the "bootable" flag to this partition?08:23
dabaSlonchoose a partition type, anything...08:23
dabaSlonno, if you are not going to boot...08:23
dabaSlonfrom it...08:23
mhow to install firefox extensions, when I click the link to them, it forces me to download them, not let me run them via firefox?08:23
dabaSlonanyhow:)08:23
vergeofimpetusi am completely gone08:23
chris_ubuntudaba08:23
vergeofimpetussooo confused08:23
dabaSlonso, as I said, I suggest you enable an ssh server, create a user name for her with no root privilieges...08:24
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Ok, it may be doing it08:24
_nate_sleepinggnite08:24
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dabaSlonvergeofimpetus: whats up^08:24
dabaSlonnite08:24
dabaSlonnate08:24
vergeofimpetusanyone wantto help with appache08:24
metalsand2crimsun: You see my pastebine08:24
dabaSlonhelp what?08:24
crimsunmetalsand2: yes, I'm reading it08:24
dabaSlonhaha, I love that...08:24
pablo921 crimsun:dvdrip depends on transcode. i think that is from the marillat.08:25
dabaSlonchris, may is an understatement:)08:25
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Hmmm... says "no primary partitions are marked bootable.  DOS MBR cannot boot this.  Toggle Bootable flag  of current partition"  Any advice?08:25
crimsunpablo921: if you can't get it, then yes08:25
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Keep in mind, this is just extra HD space.  Bootable OS is on other phyiscal drive.08:25
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pablo921 crimsun:maybe some day08:26
dabaSlonso...08:26
dabaSlonchris, not working?08:26
vergeofimpetusok08:26
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Did you see my note above?08:26
dabaSlonwhat told you that?08:26
IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - erm - just curious. will you install windows to this drive?08:26
dabaSlonwrite means save...08:26
dabaSlonright?08:26
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: No, this is going to be blank space to save some music files08:26
chris_ubuntuno windows on this machine, period08:27
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chris_ubuntuonly a ubunto machine08:27
vergeofimpetusi don't think anyone wants to help the nb with appache tho ...........once i have it installed i don't need any configuration help tho08:27
crimsunmetalsand2: um, are you _sure_ you're using 0.2.1-pre26?08:27
IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - Windows will nuke everything with it's install and assume (wrongly) that it owns the entire drive.08:27
dabaSlonright, I got that...08:27
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crimsunmetalsand2: because your dmesg says otherwise08:27
dabaSlonchris, where did you get that error?08:27
dabaSlonverge, dude, ask teh question...08:27
marky_markanyone know of how to setup a 3dfx voodoo 2 vc on hoary?08:27
dabaSlonmarky mark, awesome, I love that dude...08:28
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: When I selected "write" in that cfdisk program08:28
metalsand2crimsun: I downloaded the file in the guide, and that was its name08:28
dabaSlonok, did you select type?08:28
marky_mark:P08:28
vergeofimpetusi want to know how to configure the nsswitch.conf dir for apache08:28
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: yes, I think I selected Linux as type08:28
crimsunmetalsand2: from ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre26.tar.[gz|bz2]  ?08:28
vergeofimpetusit says i need to configure it08:29
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metalsand2wget ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre26.tar.gz08:29
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I guess I didn't select type.  there is a whole list.  which type do I want?08:29
marky_markcompiled the device3dfx-source file but still not finding it in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:29
dabaSlonso you didnt?08:29
dabaSlonhehe, sweet...08:29
dabaSlonselect, like...08:29
dabaSlonI wish ivoks was here..08:30
dabaSlonxfs, I think is what he said,..08:30
IIIEarschris_ubuntu - i believe it is on the second screen - ext3 linux filesystem08:30
crimsunany of the ones listed is fine08:30
IIIEarsavoid reiserfs for now in my experience it is difficult to remove.08:31
dabaSloncrimsun: right, referring to our discussion?08:31
crimsundabaSlon: (for filesystems, yes)08:31
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I have one just called "linux" which is choice 8308:31
crimsunIIIEars: reiser3 is mature finally08:31
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dabaSlonnow, chris, you will also need to have the drive mount at boot...08:31
IIIEarsgood tip - thanks08:32
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I am still trying to format the disk08:32
dabaSlonright, it wont take you much longer...08:32
dabaSlonit is easy...:)08:32
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Well, I dont' think it is starting.  I keep getting this error08:32
dabaSlonpaste the whole thing to pastebin.com, please.08:33
dabaSlonthe screen where it is dislayed08:33
dabaSlonctrl+shift+c is copy08:33
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dabaSlondin a terminal,dont ctrl+c08:33
dabaSlonthat is end program.08:33
dabaSlonor, use your mouse.08:33
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: http://pastebin.com/28252108:34
dabaSlonNo primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this.         Toggle bootable flag of the current partition08:35
bluemaxis anyone here familiar with mplayer?08:36
dabaSlonlike what, bluemax, I heard of it...08:36
dabaSlonchris, get the hint?08:36
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mole_I'm having difficulty getting my Palm Tungsten T to reliably synchronise with gnome-pilot and evolution.  I'm using hoary with the latest updates.   I can get working as a one-off using the instructions at ubuntuguide.org, but being able to do it consistently is a problem.  gpilotd just doesn't seem to be able to see the udev device for the palm unless I have the configuration window open in evolution (gpilotd-control).  The gnome apple08:36
mole_t frontend to gpilotd also doesn't appear to work.  Anyone else having trouble with this?08:36
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Yes, but that doesn't make sense.  Why would I want this to be bootable if it is a slave backup space?08:36
bluemaxok, i'm trying to connect to a nsv stream (at a url) but it's almost always full, so i have to have it loop in mplayer but i don't know how08:37
dabaSloncause it wants you to:)08:37
bluemax#mplayer is dead so i thought i'd ask here08:37
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: by bootable, I am understanding that this is where the OS sits and boots from.  Is this incorrect?08:37
dabaSlonpls try it, chris...08:37
dabaSlonim dying to know if it works...08:38
dabaSlonto answer your question, yes...08:38
IIIEarschris_ubuntu - no need for a bootable flag if you will only use it for storage08:38
rymanwhats the command to check system up time ?08:38
crimsun,,uptime''08:38
dabaSlonIIIEars: did you read the pastebin?08:38
chris_ubuntuyes, seems to have written.  So my above understanding is incorrect?08:38
dabaSlonit is correct.08:38
dabaSlonit would only seem that a hard drive does not like to be formatted without a bootable partition.08:39
dabaSlonok, let us mount that baby, then...08:39
rymancrimsun, thank you08:39
dabaSlonso, it is hdb1?08:39
IIIEarsyes - what did i miss? - it is complaining that it can't be booted from but that is no problem for windows to see it.08:39
chris_ubuntuhang on.  Let me see08:39
metalsand2crimsun: what do I do know?08:39
dabaSlondos mbr, meaning windows, IIIEars?08:40
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dabaSlonor windows meaning linux?08:40
dabaSlonor exactly as you said:-p08:40
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: OK, lets mount it.  How?08:40
dabaSlonis it hdb1?08:40
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Well, I don't see it in gparted.08:40
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dabaSlonsudo mkdir /media/relmp3 :)08:41
IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - you will use this disk for storage? - if you need storage and it is formatted for a correct file type windows will see it.08:41
rymanhow do I make a dir in computer ?08:41
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Windows?  This is a ubuntu box.08:41
crimsunmetalsand2: are you running 0.2.1-pre26? I never saw absolute confirmation from you.08:41
dabaSlonsudo mount /dev/hd1 /media/relmp3/08:41
metalsand2crimsun: That's what I installed from08:41
dabaSlonchris, you worry too much, for one, you will have a haeart attack...08:42
dabaSlonsecond, I was speaking to IIIEars08:42
metalsand2I know I unziped that file, went to that directory and made the module from that directory08:42
dabaSlonnothing related to youl08:42
crimsunmetalsand2: if you can confirm from the filename, fine.08:42
dabaSlonryman: what ditr?08:42
dabaSlonmkdir?08:42
dabaSlonthrough gnome?08:42
IIIEarslol - sorry - the bootable flag is just that a signal to the boot loader to look for an os there.08:42
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dabaSlonno need to be sorry...08:42
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I just don't understand.08:43
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dabaSlonI work customer service, imagine how happy my customers are...they are all like, sorry:(08:43
rymandabaSlon, I want to make a dir in Computer08:43
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rymanbut I dont' know wat dir it is08:43
dabaSlonchris, which part?08:43
dabaSlonryman: no, come on....08:43
dabaSlonserious?08:43
crimsunmetalsand2: yay? nay?08:43
dabaSloncant be..08:43
dabaSlonhow do you know that is what you want then?08:43
dabaSlonchris, sudo mkdir /media/relmp308:44
rymandabaSlon, like you go to Places - Computer08:44
dabaSlonsudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/relmp3/08:44
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Well, should I be able to see this disk space now?  And where?08:44
rymanI want to make a folder in that place08:44
dabaSloncopy and paste those into your terminal.08:44
IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - you won't need a bootable parttion to use that drive as storage. format it in a filetype that the OS you choose will understand and you're done. - :)08:44
rymanbut I don't know waht dir is the Places - Computer08:44
dabaSlonok, you need tro be root to do that, ryman,..08:44
dabaSlonwhat folders does it have>?08:44
dabaSlonetc, home, var, usr, and so on?08:45
rymanCD ROM Drive, floppy ...08:45
rymanfilesystem08:45
dabaSlonno, that is where you mount...08:45
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: I formated it in a Linux file sys, but can't see it anywhere.  How would I drag a file to it?08:45
dabaSloncant make a folder there, why do you want to?08:45
dabaSlonchris...08:45
rymani want to mount my second HD there08:45
dabaSlonI told you, mount the hard.08:45
dabaSlonNope, cant do...08:45
dabaSlonlinux fs is in a shape of a tree...08:45
saphi, I'm having a bit of trouble booting using the live CD. It boots up as far as 'elevator: using anticipatory as default io scheduler' and then stops. Any ideas?08:45
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dabaSloneverything starts at root...08:45
dabaSlonor, maybe you can...08:46
dabaSlonheh08:46
dabaSlonsorry08:46
IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - are you in linux now?08:46
rymani c thanks08:46
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: yes08:46
Q_ContinuumdabaSlon, maybe walk him through making a softlink on his desktop to it?08:46
dabaSlonchris, are you ignoring my possts?08:46
rymandabaSlon, my ubuntu keep freezing and firefox keep crashing. I wonder why08:46
chris_ubuntuIIIEars: I am doing this all from a linux box.  I am chatting on the box I am doing this on08:46
dabaSlonQ_Continuum: be my guest:)08:46
Q_ContinuumI can't remember, and I'm not booted to Ubuntu atm lol08:46
IIIEarsokay - do you know if it has been mounted (erm -- Ubuntu is using it?)08:47
dabaSlonhm....could be that inotify thing, huh, crimsun?08:47
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: no, just missing them trying to read and configure.08:47
Q_ContinuumI'm no guru :-)08:47
dabaSlonfor rymans post...08:47
dabaSlonk, chris...08:47
rymanwhat what ?08:47
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: yes08:47
rymanI mnted the 2nd HD into /media/Misc08:47
rymanI was just wondering if i can mnt it to the Computer08:47
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crimsundabaSlon: if he's using 2.6.11 from Hoary/universe without that boot param08:48
dabaSlonwhen mounting, when it freezes...you can make a soft link, likely as q said..as for freezing, there is some thing with mouinting with inotify and then it does not freeze08:48
dabaSlonhow would eh know?08:48
crimsuncat /proc/cmdline08:48
dabaSlonryman: for the soft link...explore yuor conf editor in apps, system something08:49
dabaSlonchris...08:49
dabaSlonmake a dir,...moutn the hard to dir...08:49
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: yes08:49
rymandabaSlon, thanks08:49
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crimsunmetalsand2: still waiting for an answer08:49
dabaSlonsudo mkdir /media/relmp308:49
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: that language doesn't mean anything tangable to me08:49
dabaSlonsudo mount /dev/hd1 /media/relmp3/08:49
crimsunmetalsand2: I can only troubleshoot for about 15 more minutes08:49
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IIIEarsgood save dabaslon - my eyes had glazed over - (newb remmember) - lol08:50
dabaSlonchris, the first part was for ryman, the second, after chris, was for you.08:50
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ggibeauwhats the best program for playing mpeg's?08:50
dabaSlonIIIEars: what?08:50
dabaSlonid ont get it08:50
dabaSlonlmao08:50
IIIEarsj/k grin08:50
dabaSlonI finally lit that baby...08:50
dabaSlonhah08:51
dabaSlonlol08:51
dabaSlonI cant believe I typed that...08:51
chris_ubuntuOK, I typed that in08:51
dabaSlonchris, mounted?08:51
chris_ubuntuwhat now?08:51
dabaSlonls /media/relmp308:51
dabaSlonls -alt /media/relmp308:51
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dabaSlonthats from my linux assuignment, straight off08:51
vergeofimpetusi give up for now .....i can't even find apache now dangit08:51
dabaSlonor Unix, rather.08:52
dabaSlonapache is downloadable08:52
IIIEarsheh08:52
vergeofimpetusi install it and now i can't install it08:52
dabaSlonthrough...08:52
vergeofimpetusfind it08:52
dabaSlonapt-get install apache08:52
dabaSlonwhat is your issue?08:52
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: It just shows a small list and says "total 8"08:52
dabaSlonchris, did this 3 times today only...08:52
dabaSlonkewl..08:52
dabaSloncaus4 nothing is on the hard08:53
dabaSlondo a ls08:53
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I don't know what that means08:53
dabaSlonjust ls08:53
dabaSlonand tell me a file name08:53
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dabaSlonsmall file, nothing on the hard:-p08:53
metalsandSorry, crimsun08:53
dabaSlonenglish.08:53
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metalsandI was having network issues08:53
metalsandI'm on my latop now, not my desktop anymore08:53
crimsunmetalsand: np. Any word on absolute version confirmation?08:53
dabaSlonhe types that out?08:54
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: sorry, I must not be doing it right.  I don't see anything08:54
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dabaSlonverge, dude, what is your issue?08:54
dabaSlonhe left,..08:54
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dabaSlonawesome...08:54
metalsandcrimsun: how could I absolute be sure? I'll check synaptic?08:54
dabaSlondude couldnt install apache, and left.08:54
dabaSlonanyhow...08:54
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dabaSlonchis,...08:54
crimsunmetalsand: check the tarball filename from which you extracted08:54
dabaSlonin english...08:54
metalsandYes, that was the file08:54
fsapodabaSlon, burned my dvd ^^ seems that its working08:55
dabaSlonthe folder, /media/relmp3(religiousmp3s...) has nothing in it, therefore, the list you seen was empty...08:55
Q_ContinuumI think dude left because he couldn't find apache in the apps menu. heh.08:55
fsapodabaSlon, found this in google: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Burning_Video_DVDs_in_Linux.html08:55
dabaSlonheh...08:55
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: So that indicates the new drive?08:55
dabaSlonI like the toms hardware one, with the bluesniper.08:55
dabaSlonriht, that is where the drive is...08:55
dabaSlonanyhow, let us move on...08:55
dabaSlonyou need to give permissions on that hard drive, and make it mount at boot...dude...08:56
crimsunmetalsand: ok, sec.08:56
dabaSlonI said I did it 3 times, today, onlyt..08:56
dabaSlonI work tech support, I do a OE config 5 times at least...08:56
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sour-monkeyHowdy08:56
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dabaSlonso, how do we give permissions?08:56
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dabaSlonlike a sudo chown -R $user /media/relmp308:57
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dabaSlonsudo chown -R $USER /media/relmp308:58
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Too few arguments08:58
crimsunmetalsand: did you hear any beeps when you inserted the card?08:58
metalsandcrimsun:08:58
metalsandThis package is useless without the appropriate linux-wlan-ng-modules-x.yy.zz08:58
metalsandpackage for the kernel you are running. You may have to build that by hand;08:58
dabaSlonsorry, chris.08:58
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: OK, but I have to end this in a few minutes.  I have a very full day tomorrow.  I really appreciate your help, but for me to do too much of this type of command line config stuff is really an indulgence for me.  Can you tell me where we are tin the process?08:58
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dabaSlonallow her user as well.08:58
dabaSlonnot yours..08:58
cheitania21hola08:58
dabaSlonyours is for su.08:58
metalsandcrimsun: none08:58
dabaSlonsudo...08:58
dabaSlonnot hers.08:58
dabaSlonok?08:58
dabaSlonover ssh...and learn bash:)08:59
dabaSlonyou would have to sign in as her now...08:59
dabaSlonare you?08:59
metalsandCrimsun: what I pasted was from synaptic, I've made the modules but do I have linux-wlan-ng, or should I have it installed in synaptic? In synaptic I have no listed installed version08:59
dabaSlonyou can remove her permissions in a file...08:59
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dabaSlonchris, made changes?09:00
crimsunmetalsand: first of all, did you create Debian packages, or did you compile from tarball?09:00
dabaSlonthen also a file needs to be edited for mounting.09:00
crimsunmetalsand: the cleanest (and recommended method) is to use Debianised source, not tarball09:00
metalsandcrimsun: compiled from the tarball09:00
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: The prompt came back and said "too few arguments"09:00
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metalsandcrimsun: I just followed the guide09:00
dabaSlonafter the $USER?09:00
metalsandcrimsun: I originally tried install the linux-wlan-ng from synaptic09:01
metalsandcrimsun: but that never worked... I never saw the part about it being useless with the linux-wlan-ng-modules, though09:01
metalsandcrimsun: now I'm not so certain I have everything configured correctly09:01
crimsunmetalsand: I have no idea what you've done09:01
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Really, I don't know who you are addressing.  I can't keep watching this ongoing paging and try to figure out which mssgs are for me.  Thanks to everyone, but I am going to have to move on.09:02
dabaSlonit is gonna spew out a lotta lines.09:02
crimsunmetalsand: if you've compiled and installed from tarball, you'll have to use the tarball's instructions09:02
dabaSlondude, I did it here...09:02
dabaSlonright now...09:02
dabaSlonbut, see ya later...09:02
metalsandcrimsun: The current thing I've done is followed this guide, exactly: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary09:02
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Is "dude" me09:02
chris_ubuntu?09:02
dabaSlonhaha09:03
dabaSlonnope...09:03
dabaSlonsudo chown -R $USER /media/relmp309:03
dabaSlonis you...09:03
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: OK, I did it, but it just gave me another prompt...09:04
dabaSlonright, asking for a password?09:04
dabaSlonperhaps?09:04
metalsandcrimsun: I installed the kernel modules, should I now install wlan-ng from synaptic?09:04
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I don't know what the result of these commands is supposed to be.  No, if the password coment is for me, it did not ask for a password.09:04
crimsunoh my.09:05
crimsunthat wiki page is _horrible_09:05
IIIEarsWow! - crimsun is usually very reserved.09:05
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: Fuck it.  This is an exercise in futility.09:05
crimsunstep 3 is utterly broken09:05
dabaSlonIIIEars: awesome.09:05
metalsandcrimsun: The one I pasted? :x09:05
dabaSlonchris, right...09:05
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: right?09:06
crimsunmetalsand: paste your /etc/wlan/wlan.conf onto pastebin09:06
dabaSlonexactly.09:06
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IIIEarsChris_ubuntu - if you have set permissions and have mounted it - correct me if i'm wrong someone - there is no more left to do but use the drive you have created. :)09:07
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dabaSlonits kinda bedtime-ish...09:07
dabaSlonman...09:07
dabaSlonok, night.09:07
metalsandhttp://pastebin.com/28252909:08
chris_ubuntudabaSlon: How do I use it?  I can't see it in the GUI?  There is a serious gap in communication here (probably based on my misunderstanding)...09:08
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dabaSlon_slphaha09:08
sour-monkeyHow much disk space does a typical PPC Ubuntu installation use?09:08
dabaSlon_slpthats cool, chris, use your drive, and make it am\utomount in fstab, IIIEarsknows how.09:08
bob2sour-monkey: 1.8GB by default09:08
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Raskallgood morning. I have managed to "enlist" 3 or 4 ubuntu-newbies now. They wanted a good distro for their laptop. :)09:09
sour-monkey1.8 GB?  Damn09:09
bob2sour-monkey: 1.2GB if you don't precopy the .debs09:09
sour-monkeyI only have 20GB, and I want OS X on here too09:09
dabaSlon_slpRaskall: tell that to metalsand09:09
crimsunmetalsand: and /etc/wlan/wlancfg-pirates ?09:09
dabaSlon_slp:))09:09
bob2sour-monkey: 1.8GB is < 1/10th of that09:09
IIIEarsdabaSlon - you are really nice to be so helpful. :)09:09
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sour-monkeyYeah, I know.  I have lots of other things I'm gonna need to put on here though09:10
IIIEarsG'nite! :)09:10
dabaSlon_slplike what?09:10
dabaSlon_slplmao09:10
dabaSlon_slpman...09:10
IIIEarslol09:10
dabaSlon_slp:)))09:10
pablo921Raskall, more of us newbies to torture those who help us?09:10
dabaSlon_slphaha09:10
dabaSlon_slpawesome09:10
dabaSlon_slpnit09:10
IIIEarslol09:10
crimsunmetalsand: or are you using /etc/wlancfg/wlancfg-DEFAULT ?09:10
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metalsandhttp://pastebin.com/28253109:11
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chris_ubuntudabaSlon: I don't get it.  I can't tell which mssgs are for me.  This is not something I am going to be able to complete.  Thanks but this is not working.  I hate to say it makes me long for Microsoft giving me a case number at the beginnging of a paid call09:11
metalsandcrimsun: I'm using wlancfg-pirates09:11
metalsandI deleted default09:11
Raskallpablo921: :) I have started an ubuntu support company. They'll call me and I'll bother you if I cant help them.09:11
freewoodyCan somebody tell me how to make PostFix send mails using my IP Address09:11
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pablo921Raskall, i'm just starting to learn.09:12
crimsunmetalsand: are you using the pcmcia restart or the wlanctl-ng method?09:13
IIIEarschris_ubuntu - You learned a little and so did i. we don't have to learn everything all at once. a little rest can make it all a lot easier to do in the morning.09:13
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Raskallpablo921: and it's not torture. We want as many ubuntu users as possible you know. And If we felt tortured we would just leave the channel.09:13
dabaSlon_slpIIIEars: well, you see, he cant get which messages I send him...09:13
metalsandcrimsun: I have no idea09:14
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crimsunmetalsand: ...err?09:14
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revelaterhow do i check on my hard drive partitions?09:14
dabaSlon_slpand, Im talking only to him, and only me and him are on the channel...except for crimsun and metalsand sometimes...09:14
revelaterget a list of them?09:14
pablo921Raskall, it's just that there are normally 500 people in this room and maybe 10 that can and will help us newbies09:14
jsgotangcofdisk -l09:14
metalsandcrimsun: How would i check which method I'm using :x09:14
revelaterdidn09:14
crimsunmetalsand: ok, you're obviously not using the latter then09:14
IIIEarsX-chat is highlighting all of my messages - would be a lot easier to avoid the questions i can't answer if it didn't - lol09:15
dabaSlon_slprevelater: fdisk -l /dev/hdx09:15
revelaterdidn't list anything09:15
metalsandcrimsun: right09:15
jsgotangcosudo fdisk -l09:15
crimsunmetalsand: please restart pcmcia and paste dmesg again please09:15
revelaterjsgotangco: thanks, that did it09:15
jsgotangco:-)09:15
dabaSlon_slpexcellent.09:15
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Raskallhmm.. my pentium 4M is not very happy with vmware. :) the CPU gets really hot.09:16
dabaSlon_slpslp09:16
revelaterjsgotangco: what is id f?09:16
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metalsandhttp://pastebin.com/28253309:17
revelaterk, this doesn't look right... :09:17
revelater   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System09:17
revelater/dev/hda1   *           1      231589   116720824+  83  Linux09:17
revelater/dev/hda2          231590      232581      499968    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)09:17
revelater/dev/hda5          231590      232581      499936+  82  Linux swap / Solaris09:17
metalsandThe last couple of lines changed, crimsun09:17
revelateranyone drown itn that one? :P09:17
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eob84HI09:18
eob84I have a quick question09:18
eob84does anyone know where you can get bootsplash debs for ubuntu?09:18
revelater...09:18
eob84ha09:18
revelaterwhat is bootsplash?09:19
eob84the binary for the kernal09:19
eob84oops sorry09:19
revelaterdo you use synaptic?09:19
IIIEarseob - google >> images >> splash screen - i got too many to use them all - too many is just enough. - lol09:19
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eob84no splash screen09:20
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eob84I need the actual program09:20
eob84bootsplash09:20
revelateri am outta here...09:20
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drunkenhi everyone...09:20
eob84the file on http://www.bootsplash.de/files does not work09:20
crimsunmetalsand: double-check your wlancfg-pirates09:21
metalsandcrimsun: for what?09:21
crimsunmetalsand: any missing parameters09:21
metalsandcrimsun: all i did was rename the file09:21
crimsunmetalsand: you didn't tweak it to your own hardware?09:22
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metalsandcrimsun: when i went through it all seemed correct to my settings09:22
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drunkenis anyone using dc++ from linux?09:22
drunkenfor linux...09:22
crimsunmetalsand: please double-check. Sorry, but it's nearly 3:30, and I need to be back here at work in less than five hours.09:23
Kamping_in_dozeanyone come across this before? i crashed ubuntu, and reinstalled windows (without rebooting into ubuntu). when i tried to reinstall grub, it cant find core.img or somthing. anyone know this one?09:23
metalsandcrimsun: I just double-checked, everything looks correct09:23
metalsandI have no WEP enabled, its set to DHCP09:23
kakaltodoes anyone have the transcode package, and could they put it up on a server for download for me? please?09:23
kakaltothe debian-marillat repos don't work09:24
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pablo921 kakalto:i'm waiting for it also.09:24
crimsunmetalsand: ok. I'll be back in ~18 hrs09:24
kakaltoI tried downloading the source from transcoding.org but the tar isn't valid09:24
metalsandcrimsun: K. So we're done for the night?09:25
pablo921kakalto:i tied to install dvdrip but can't without transcode.09:26
kakaltohmm.09:26
metalsandcrimsun: Thanks for looking over my code, I appriate it. G'night, get some rest.09:26
kakaltoI tried to install transcode, but couldn't09:26
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metalsandMorning, ivoks09:26
ivokshello09:26
metalsandGuess what I'm back to trying?09:26
metalsandwlan-ng09:26
metalsandYay :D09:26
pablo921kakalto:i guess marillat has been down for awhile09:27
kakaltoyeh09:27
kakalto:(09:27
pablo921kakalto:patience09:27
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manyone know where the start menu is kept in gnome.. the file? ?09:28
ivoksmetalsand great... that driver gave better results :)09:28
kakaltopablo921, patience is hard when sick and wanting to burn a video-dvd for a friend09:28
pablo921kakalto:unles you find somebody who has it09:28
kakaltothat's what I was hoping for09:28
metalsandivoks09:29
metalsandI just noticed something09:29
metalsandin dmesg09:29
ivoksok09:30
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metalsandp80211knetdev_hard_start_xmit: Tx attempt prior to association, frame dropped.09:30
metalsandIt states that09:30
Kaiser_milobbl. good luck ppl09:30
ivoksmetalsand google09:30
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ivoksmetalsand copy paste that in google09:30
metalsand Bit Rate:2 Mb/s   Tx-Power:2346 dBm09:30
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metalsandand when I iwconfig09:30
metalsandit shows that09:30
ivoksmetalsand as i said, your wifi works09:30
metalsandand that kind of tx-power is rediculous, thecards max is 2309:31
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ivoksmetalsand iwlist wlan0 scan09:31
ivoksmetalsand what does it says?09:31
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metalsandwlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Function not implemented09:31
ivoksmetalsand then eth209:31
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ivoksah...09:31
metalsandI have no eth209:31
ivoksok09:32
IIIEarsFoolish Ubuntu question #101 - how do i create a wallpaper like the default that looks like two layers?09:32
metalsandi have eth0 (what im connected to right now)09:32
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ivoksi'm sleepy :(09:32
ali4728Newbie Needs Help! I have a (LinuxApacheMysqlPhp) web server on my comp/ubuntu, I want to send email [mail()]  by somepage.php but default confs doesnt seem to work! Any help?09:32
pablo921Seveas, i thought youw4ent to work.09:32
ivoksali4728 mail()?09:32
metalsandlol09:33
ivoksali4728 AFAIK, that doesn't work on lot of servers09:33
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bob2ali4728: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix, configure it to be able to send mail09:33
ivoksali4728 couse it is possible to send spam over that function09:33
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ivoksmetalsand i don't know... how do you know others managed to setup that card? any URL?09:34
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Seveaspablo921, i am at work now :)09:34
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kakaltoSeveas, are you involved in the marillat repos?09:35
Seveasi am a scientific programmer, so it's not that much of a surprise that i have an internet connection at my work :)09:35
pablo921Seveas, you have a good day.09:35
Seveaskakalto, not at all09:35
ivoksi buyed canon 300D09:35
Cybermagellanhey what do you guys think of this for a Ubuntu webserver logo http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby.png ?09:36
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kakaltoSeveas, k, my bad09:36
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SeveasCybermagellan, not bad, but the font looks fuzzy09:36
ivokslol09:36
ivoksmy grandma could do that :)09:36
Seveasand the logo isn't scaled correctly09:36
ali4728<bob2> is it ok if just type the command that u mentioned? What u mean by configure?09:37
ivoksCybermagellan try again :)09:37
CybermagellanThanks ivoks...maybe your grandma would care to do it...09:37
bob2ali4728: yes, run the command I gave you09:37
ivoksCybermagellan she wouldn't, and i wouldn't :)09:37
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ivoksCybermagellan make powerd by bigger, remove ubuntu and leave cicrcle09:38
ivokscircle09:38
veritasivoks09:38
veritasIt works!09:38
veritaslol09:38
veritasI CANNOT believe it09:38
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poningruheh I am here too09:38
ivoksu dumb prick09:38
veritasbob2: did you hear that?09:38
poningruI stalk people here09:38
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veritasivoks: Why am I a dumb prick? lol09:39
bob2ivoks: language09:39
ivoksveritas can you see anybody else? :)09:39
Seveasivoks, please don;t use that kind of language herre09:39
ivoksbob2 I have to...09:39
ivoksbob2 he was pooling my nose for days09:39
ivoksbob2 and now it works... :)09:39
veritasivoks: No, I wasn't09:39
veritasI JUST got it to work09:39
ali4728<bob2> It opened up a conf window should I simply clk OK?09:39
paknaaldwhere can i find a good xorg.conf manual?09:39
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veritasbob2: I think we should change the topic09:40
IIIEars485 people in the room at least that many different opinions on your logo. - lol09:40
bob2paknaald: why do you want to modify it?09:40
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bob2ali4728: in a terminal, yes09:40
paknaaldwell i have a radeon x600 and it won't get graphical09:40
eob84I am trying to remove a package from apt and I am getting errors09:40
veritas| metalsnd got his PCMCIA NIC working, everyone can procede to their daily schedule | Please don't use Breezy yet |09:40
paknaaldso i install ubuntu in textmode and then try to configure xorg.conf09:40
veritasWhat do you say, bob2?09:40
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paknaaldso then in vesa it works, on one screen09:40
bob2eob84: you need to be more specific, (ie past the error to #flood)09:40
paknaaldbut i want gflrx on dual screen09:40
paknaaldthat's _hard_09:41
bob2daniels: radeon x600 should Just Work, right?09:41
eob84bo2, subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1009:41
ivoksveritas and, what was wrong?09:41
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veritasNothing is wrong09:41
Cr1ck3twow didn't expect to see this many people here hehe09:41
Seveascyphase, please don't spam here...09:41
ali4728<bob2> I have options "int site, int with sm host, sat sys, Local only" which is good for me?09:41
ivoksveritas i know, but what was wrong with you...09:41
danielsbob2: in theory, yes.  in pracrice, it tends to lock up, apparently, but I haven't got any hardware. :\09:42
bob2eob84: no, the whole error, to #flood09:42
Cr1ck3thello everyone, don't need help just thought I would check out the room.09:42
bob2cyphase: please turn that off09:42
eob84what? join another chanel?09:42
cyphaseSeveas, if thats spam, then i don't know why im the only one your telling to stop spamming09:42
bob2eob84: yes09:42
bob2ali4728: do you have a smarthost?09:42
Burgundaviacyphase, that is spam09:42
Seveascyphase, because no one else does that perhaps09:42
ali4728nope09:42
ali4728<bob2> no09:43
veritasI'm so freaking excited right now09:43
veritasMy card works.09:43
cyphaseBurgundavia, Seveas, what qualifies as spam in your opinion09:43
paknaaldbob2: does 'vesa'-mode even support dual screen?09:43
bob2paknaald: I don't know09:43
Burgundaviacyphase, the channel is already very busy. Anything that is offtopic is spam09:43
Cr1ck3tcyphase that is considered spam in help rooms just turn it off in here its not a big deal...09:43
bob2ali4728: then just internet host, I guess09:43
ivoksveritas it's good feeling when you get something to work on linux, isn't it?09:43
ali4728<bob2> let me try09:43
ivoksveritas what's even better, it's great feeling when you realize that you learned something along the way...09:44
ivoksveritas doesn't that make you smile?09:44
cyphaseBurgundavia, Seveas, are you telling me that everything else in here is on topic?09:44
cyphasebecause i highly doubt it09:44
Burgundaviacyphase, mostly yes09:44
veritasivoks: I let out a little grin :P09:44
cyphaseright09:44
veritasivoks: I wouldn't say I learned a little09:44
Seveascyphase, cut it out. We *try* to stay on topic09:44
cyphase;)09:44
bob2cyphase: automatic crap is off-topic09:44
Burgundaviacyphase, what you are listening to has little to do with linux, let alone ubuntu09:44
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cyphasebob2, automatic?09:44
veritasI'd say 95% of my linux knowledge was learned because of this freaking card :P09:45
bob2cyphase: public away messages will be told to shut it off, too09:45
cyphaselol09:45
veritasbob2: are you excited for me?09:45
Seveasveritas, you better watch out09:45
Seveasveritas, or you'll become a linux-geek ;)09:45
veritasSeveas: How come?09:45
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veritasSeveas: I'm not scared :P09:46
Seveaswell, welcome aboard then :)09:46
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cyphase;)09:46
veritasbleh09:46
veritaswhat's the command to ghost09:46
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veritasI can't get metalsand09:46
Cr1ck3t /ns ghost nick password09:46
Seveasor /msg nickserv ghost nick passord09:47
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veritasWhat happened to the chat :x09:49
Seveasit became silent09:49
Seveasno problems anymore, woohoo :)09:49
paknaaldisn't their anybody a xorg.conf expert? ;)09:49
veritasIt's because I fixed my problem :P09:50
veritasbleh09:50
Seveasik niet iig paknaald, sorry :)09:50
paknaaldyou've a x600 too?09:50
veritasi can't ghost metalsand because it's not registered09:50
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Cr1ck3thehe veritas thats usually the case.09:50
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ivokslol09:51
Seveasthere ya go09:51
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Seveasmetalsand, if it happens again, try /ping metalsand09:51
Seveasit will help the server noticing that that nick is dead09:51
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Seveasi just pinged him and bang, he is gone09:52
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CybermagellanAny better now: http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby.png09:52
metalsandAh, good call. :D09:52
metalsandSweet - my next problem09:52
Seveasscaling is ok09:52
CybermagellanI locked it this time09:52
Seveas"ubuntu" looks crappy so close to the logo09:52
Seveasand powered by is too small09:52
metalsandFATAL: Unable to open cisco control file '/proc/driver/aironet/eth0/Config' 2:No such file or directory09:52
CybermagellanI can't think of anywhere else to put it09:52
Seveasnext to the logo is better09:52
Seveasas in powered by (LOGO) Ubuntu09:53
pablo921Cybermagellan: look ok to me09:53
ivoksSeveas eth0?09:53
ivokssorry09:53
ivoksmetalsand eth0? isn't your wlan on wlan0?09:53
metalsandkismet is trying to run off of eth0, not wlan0 it seems09:53
ivoksmetalsand configure kismet09:53
ivoksbye all09:53
metalsandYeah, I've never bothered trying to run it since my card never worked09:53
Q_Continuummetalsand, whenever I've had that happen (I'm using ndiswrapper) it's because i need todo another modprobe ndiswrapper09:54
Q_Continuumwhich fixes it09:54
bob2metalsand: let me guess, kismet?09:54
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lajihi09:54
sour-monkeyGidday09:54
lajianyone had experiences with webcams ?09:54
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metalsandbob2: Yes09:55
lajii just installled ubuntu.. and it drives me crazy09:55
bob2metalsand: you need to configure it09:55
bob2metalsand: ie tell it what sort of card you have09:55
lajiit recognizes the webcam.. but i can't see it09:55
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kakaltolaji, not meaning to be unfriendly, but have you tried google?09:56
metalsandbob2: where are the config files? I'm in the readme right now, but it'd be nice just to go right to them :P09:56
lajiit is saying that is a v4l2 device, the module is loaded..09:56
lajiyes...09:56
ali4728<bob2> Do I need to configure anything with PHP Postfix configured now!09:56
lajii tried.09:56
jackassWhat program would i use instead of Deamon Tools, on linux??! (neeb)09:56
bob2metalsand: /etc/kismet/kismet.conf09:56
Seveasjackass, mount :)09:56
metalsandbob2: thanks :)09:56
bob2metalsand: all config files for non-user thingfgs are in /etc09:56
jackass:S09:56
Seveasjackass, but only for .iso files09:57
fsapobob2, i said that my dvd wasnt going to work, ive found this: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Burning_Video_DVDs_in_Linux.html09:57
bob2ali4728: you need to make sure postfix is actually working09:57
Seveasno idea about other formats09:57
bob2ali4728: ssh in and see if "mail -stest some@email.com" and make sure it turn up09:57
fsapobob2, i think that if the player can read dvd-r midia it should work09:57
bob2fsapo: ok09:57
jackassbut what program for .bin files then? and wher can i find "mount"09:57
ali4728<bob2> ssh in?09:59
jackassbut what program for .bin files then? and wher can i find "mount"09:59
CybermagellanSeveas, something like http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby1.png09:59
Cybermagellan?09:59
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bob2ali4728: or however you normally connect to it10:00
bob2jackass: you can't mount .bin files10:00
pablo921Cybermagellan:, i think it looks fine10:00
bob2jackass: use bchunk to convert it to a useful format10:00
jackass:( okey10:00
SeveasCybermagellan, indeed, but the font is awfully small compared to the logo size imho10:00
jackasswheres bchunk? where can i find it.10:00
CybermagellanWell I was going to suggest that this be at the bottom of a webpage...so I don't wanna make it too large....nor too small10:00
{Cricket}jackass google for it10:01
CybermagellanLike the powered by apache logo10:01
bob2jackass: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, enable universe10:01
SeveasCybermagellan, i suggest you shrink the logo a bit then10:01
CybermagellanYeah I was thinking that too10:01
jackassthanks10:02
jackassi got it now10:02
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metalsandWhat should I list as my super user ID? Do I tell kismet it's root?10:03
metalsandor veritas, if that's my regular ubuntu login10:03
{Cricket}root10:03
bob2just leave it10:03
bob2all you need to change is the driver10:03
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metalsandbob2: How do I tell the name of the source?10:05
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bob2metalsand: presumably prism2source10:06
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metalsandThen my cardtype must be wrong :/10:07
jackasshow do i change a .fin file to .iso file... i got bchunk and that but how?10:07
jackasshow do i change a .bin file to .iso file... i got bchunk and that but how?10:07
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Seveasjackass, read the documentation....10:08
bob2jackass: dude a) don't repeat, it's obnoxious, b) did you read the documentation that came with it?10:08
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pshendhi all. i've installed the gPerfection icon theme, but none of my gtk controls are using it - like ok buttons are still using the old icons etc, and nautilus back/fwd buttons dont use this theme10:09
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jackassi wrote wrong from the start changes fin - bin sry im reading but i don't understand10:09
pshendany ideas how i fix it? i've installed the theme for root, and when i run synaptic, root DOES use the gPerfection icons10:09
bob2jackass: run "man bchunk" in a terminal, and read it10:10
CybermagellanSeveas, so maybe something like this? http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby2.png10:10
bob2pshend: er, don't install it for root then10:10
jackassno manual post for bchunk:S!10:10
pshendbob2, the root install is just in /root/.icons, so it shouldn't interfere with /home/user/.icons, should it?10:10
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SeveasCybermagellan, comes close, but if you want to put it at the bottom of a page, you should use the previous image with the logo as big as in this image, so that the images width is bigger than its height10:11
bob2jackass: then you didn't install it10:11
bob2jackass: read the page again and try again10:11
jackasshow to install... Im really a neeb....10:11
bob2jackass: dude, read the page I gave you10:11
bob2jackass: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto10:12
bob2pshend: you installed it as root and are complaining that it doesn't work for your regular user, right?10:12
CybermagellanSeveas, ok so kinda like a banner then10:12
pshendbob2, no. sorry, i didn't explain that too well.10:12
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pshendbob2, i installed it as a user with the theme manager, then i installed it  for root by sudu su'ing, then unpacking the theme into root/.icons - so there shouldn't be a permissions prob10:13
jackassthx alot10:13
SeveasCybermagellan, yeah, sort of10:13
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CybermagellanKinda like.. http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby3.png10:14
SeveasCybermagellan, that's the best one so far :)10:14
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CybermagellanOk, well it's 1:30 in the am so I am going to bed now10:15
Cybermagellannight all10:15
ali4728<bob2> Postfix working ( I reboot the comp.) but could not send mail yet, any idea?10:15
Seveasbut i would make the the height of the word "ubuntu" about 3/4 as heigh as the logo and center it vertically10:15
Seveasg'night!10:15
fsapoSeveas, night!10:16
bob2ali4728: then postfix isn't working10:16
bob2ali4728: and there was no need to reboot it10:16
Seveasfsapo, that was to Cybermagellan it's 10:16am here :)10:16
ali4728<bob2> shal I try over again?10:17
bob2ali4728: what happened when you ran the command I gave you?10:17
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ali4728<bob2> it opend conf GUI end I went through steps!10:18
bob2ali4728: no10:18
bob217:57:19 @         bob2 | ali4728: ssh in and see if "mail -stest some@email.com" and make sure it turn up10:18
bob2ali4728: send that test email10:19
pshendanyone know if unpacking a file which gives timestamp errors could cause a problem? (it's a theme)10:20
ali4728<bob2>I am trying to send this mail through a web page you aware of that righT?10:20
bob2ali4728: dude10:20
bob2ali4728: I can't help you if you ignore me10:20
ali4728<bob2>you fill a form and click OK to send!10:21
bob2ali4728: you need to actually run the command I gave you10:21
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bob2ali4728: no, ignore the webt10:21
ali4728<bob2> ok hold on10:21
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jackasswhere can i find synaptic package manager???10:24
mole_can anyone help walk me through synchronising my USB Palm device?  I've tried the udev configuration on ubuntuguide.org, but it only works for the initial sync.10:24
bob2jackass: dude, chill10:25
bob2jackass: and use some initiative.10:25
jsgotangcoPDA support :-(10:25
ali4728<bob2>I run this command "mail -stest some@email.com" no response from bash!10:25
jackassi have been loocking every where10:25
bob2jackass: system -> administration -> package manager10:25
mole_So it doesn't work too well, then?10:25
cbruggemanhi all10:25
jackassOMG im such a LOSER10:25
bob2ali4728: so.  you did actually substitute in an email address of your own in there, right?10:25
NicPlol10:25
cbruggemani have a big prob aswell10:25
jsgotangcomole_, its on high priority at the moment10:26
jsgotangcobut we'll need testers on certain devices10:26
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cbruggemananybody now spip ? and have ever try to put it on ubuntu ?10:26
Seveasjackass, no, just a newbie, but relax, we all had to go through this :)10:26
bob2cbruggeman: you need to ask a more specific question10:26
mole_jsgotangco: happy to try and help if I can.  I have a Palm Tungsten T, m515 and Palm Vx.10:26
cbruggemanok bob210:27
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cbruggemanmy problem is juste than i didn't arrive to install spip10:27
ali4728<bob2> it hangs..10:27
jsgotangcomole_, that's great, refer to http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/PDASupport10:27
cbruggemani did an apt-get install apache , mysql and php410:27
bob2ali4728: you didn't answer my question10:27
jsgotangcothe key is supporting certain models for now10:28
ali4728<bob2> yes I did10:28
bob2ali4728: where?10:28
bob218:25:50 @         bob2 | ali4728: so.  you did actually substitute in an email address of your own in there, right?10:28
ali4728<bob2> here actual thing4728@yahoo.com10:28
mole_jsgotangco: I can get the bluetooth sync working using pilot-link and the guide at howto.pilot-link.org/bluesync10:29
bob2good10:29
bob2ali4728: now run: echo this is a test email | mail -s test thing4728@yahoo.com10:29
ali4728<bob2> here actual thing  # mail -stest ali4728@yahoo.com10:29
mole_It just seems to be a problem with gnome-pilot10:29
mole_But I'm sure you probably know that already10:29
jsgotangcomole_, that's great can you email me the details of it at jgotangco@gmail.com so I can test it out and update the wiki at the same time contact you thanks10:30
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bob2er10:30
mole_jsgotango: will do10:30
bob2it might be better to file a bug10:30
bob2unless jsgotangco is like the gnome-pilot author10:30
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jsgotangcoyeah file a bug10:31
ali4728<bob2> I run it "echo this is a test email | mail -s test ali4728@yahoo.com"10:31
bob2ali4728: good10:31
bob2ali4728: now go and see if the email arrived10:31
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ali4728<bob2> No mail10:32
mole_I'll have to look at the gnome-pilot mailing list first...10:32
bob2ali4728: so, open up your postfix log10:33
ali4728<bob2>ok10:33
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ali4728<bob2> is it in /etc/postfix log file?10:34
bob2no10:34
ali4728<bob2> where10:34
bob2I told you before, /var/log/mail.log10:34
ali4728<bob2>ok10:34
bunochello. i just installed hoary. anybody pls tell me how to change the screen solution?10:35
bunoci am in gnome now10:35
REdzye its the menu man10:35
REdzwith the preferences10:35
lajithe kernel delivered with the default ubuntu instalation does support video4linux?10:36
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bunochmm.... only 640x408 available. how to choose better solution?10:36
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REdzthat supports wat is setup, i dont know how to change it for x.org10:36
bunocwhy hoary only detects 640x480 on my screen?10:36
helloyohow do i use an external dvd driver with ubuntu? (my bro is being a dick about how windows installed it automatically)10:37
REdzits prob a safe default bunoc10:37
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bunocREdz: yes, but i cannot work with this solution :(10:37
REdzhegemony, is it a usb burner10:37
ali4728<bob2> here is LOG http://pastebin.com/28255410:37
REdzbunoc, ull have to read up on x.org bunoc i have only just started usn it10:37
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lewwyhello fellow ubuntu chumps10:39
helloyodoes anyone know how to setup an external dvd burner?10:39
lewwycan somebody reccomend a good programming language for linux/ubuntu?10:39
hhurttac++/c10:39
jsgotangcopython?10:39
REdzhelloyo, is it a usb or firewire one10:39
hhurttabash?10:39
lewwythats easy10:39
REdzc/ c++10:39
lewwypreferably something like visual basic10:39
lewwybash?10:39
lewwyyou can program for bash?10:39
REdzmono10:39
helloyoREdz, usb10:40
hhurttalewwy: lightly10:40
REdzbash is shell10:40
lewwyisnt C/C++ coding like, REALLY hard?10:40
jsgotangconothing is hard if you persevere10:40
lewwylightly10:40
St0n3-C0llol10:40
lewwyhehe10:40
REdzhelloyo, well u have to have usb setup in the kernel and that and basically linux ie ubuntu or debian treats it as a scsi drive10:40
St0n3-C0lIn you take interested in learning then it's not hard10:40
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helloyoREDz, oh ok, so how do i go about burning? want to show my brother it can be done relatively easily10:41
ali4728<bob2> May 11 01:35:42 ubuntu postfix/smtp[4306] : connect to mx3.mail.yahoo.com[64.156.215.6] : Connection timed out (port 25)10:41
lewwythe idea of programming in something where i can't exactly see what i'm doing scares me10:41
REdzhelloyo, k3b supports it 2 secs10:41
lewwyi like the vb way of doing doings10:41
lewwyVISUAL basic10:41
Q_Continuumewwwww10:41
Q_Continuumewwwww10:41
REdzhelloyo, 3 secs10:41
jsgotangcothats not programming, that's designing an interface most of the time10:41
hhurttalewwy: even in vb you cant see the logic behind the gui10:41
REdzmono!10:41
helloyoREdz, what do you mean? so i just need k3b?10:41
ali4728<bob2> I dont have to open port 25 do I?10:42
REdzhegemony, ye install k3b, i use it alot, u can get nero also10:42
lewwyyeh10:42
lewwythe overheads are annyoing too10:42
hhurttajust grab a basic c/c++ tutorial and start learning10:43
REdzhelloyo, http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html is a good start especialy the mass storage section10:43
REdzhelloyo, leme find the programs10:43
lewwyi shall port halo to ubuntu!10:43
helloyoREdz, thanks10:43
hhurttalewwy: sure you are...10:43
lewwyhehe10:43
lewwywell can anyone suggest a good tutorial for C?10:44
lewwyor C++?10:44
hhurttatry google10:44
lewwyi sorta thought microsoft owns C++ and C seems more standard10:44
REdzhelloyo, dvd+rw-tools  for one10:44
hhurttait usually knows these things best10:44
lewwyone of these days i'd like to program for gba10:44
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helloyoREdz, yeah, i have that, just tried gnomebaker, but that didn't detect the drive10:44
metalsandping google.com10:44
lewwyman, i love ubuntu without the stupid font AA10:44
lewwyit kicks ass10:44
metalsandoops :x10:44
lewwyi can actually see what im doing10:44
REdzhelloyo, once ur burner is setup and u can mount and unmount it as a cdrom drive10:45
DarthV4derhi10:45
REdzthen just use k3b with ur dvd tools10:45
helloyoREdz, what do i set it up in?10:45
REdzhelloyo, make sure u can access it first10:45
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REdzlol helloyo read those websites i pasted10:45
lewwyi also wub cedega10:45
helloyoREdz, oh ok, sorry10:45
REdzhelloyo, it explains about usb , basically kernel support , and if u have warty or hoary u wont have to edit files like /etc/fstab10:46
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REdzhelloyo, check in /etc/fstab to see if the system made an entry for it also and in dmesg10:46
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geoffroy_hello dudes10:47
Seveashi10:48
REdzhelloyo, dvdrtools udftools dvdplusrw, just do sudo apt-cache search dvd| more and have a loook10:48
geoffroy_I just installed 5.0410:48
Seveasgeoffroy_, welcome aboard the Ubuntu ship then :)10:48
Daehlie5.04!@!@ You just said our word of the day!@!10:49
geoffroy_thank you10:49
Daehlieding ding ding10:49
geoffroy_but I was on 4.10 before10:49
helloyoREdz, thanks a lot10:49
Seveas:)10:49
Seveaswell, welcome on the hoary ship ;)10:49
geoffroy_and i don't understand why the system is asking me a password for changing configuration etc...10:49
helloyoREdz, just trying to get my brother to stop being a dick about windows detecting it straight away10:49
geoffroy_is it not supposed to be the superuser pass ?10:49
Seveasgeoffroy_, no10:49
Seveasit needs your password since ubuntu uses sudo10:49
geoffroy_oh my god, I missed something10:50
eruingeoffroy_: you _are_ the superuser, effectively speaking10:50
Seveasgeoffroy_, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:50
Seveasthat'll explain a lot :)10:50
geoffroy_ok thanks, I was searching this page10:50
REdzhelloyo, ye for sure its not very hard10:50
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lewwyheh10:51
lewwyhelloyo: just tell him if he uses windows hes a communist10:51
Seveasneh10:51
webminddoes anyone know if ubuntu/x.org has DRI support for the new or any ATI chipsets on the amd64 platform ?10:51
Seveasmore like a capitalist10:51
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lewwyhey, did anyone here see microsofts attempts to take down linux?10:52
lewwyby saying it costs more etc etc?10:52
danielswebmind: define 'new'10:52
Seveaslewwy, they are right though in some cases10:52
REdzlewwy, wats new10:53
REdzthey do it all the time10:53
helloyolewwy, he thinks that it takes ages for me to do anything, like add a new printer (easy as hell in ubuntu), but thats cos i'm constantly in a broken state on purpose10:53
Seveaslewwy, they just forget to mention the "in some cases" part10:53
danielswebmind: it supports up to 9200 out of the box, and we have the proprietary driver packaged, which supports all of them10:53
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lewwyhehe10:53
lewwythats the way to go helloyo10:53
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webminddaniels, 9250, 9550 or the 9600 ?10:53
lewwymy bro gets on my nerves sometimes, but if i dont help him, i dont get my adsl fix :(10:53
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St0n3-C0llol10:54
danielswebmind: supports 9250 out of the box, 9550 and 9600 are supported by the proprietary driver10:54
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lewwyargh this is getting on my nerves.  I installed farcry under windows and then gave the cd's back to my friend10:54
lewwyand now i cant play it! :'(10:55
lewwy(cedega)10:55
webminddaniels, ok10:55
geoffroy_okay, I missed something during the installation10:55
webminddaniels, also on the amd64 then ?10:55
helloyoREdz, i have been reading that site, and i still can't get anything happening10:55
geoffroy_because my first user is not in the sudoers10:55
danielswebmind: yeah10:55
webmindcool :)10:55
REdzledi, ye u prob need no cd crack10:55
REdzlewwy, ye u prob need no cd crack10:55
danielsit would probably also work better if you actually bought the game10:56
geoffroy_Should I have to reinstall ? or is there any solution without running installation again10:56
REdzhelloyo, did u check /etc/fstab and dmesg10:56
Seveasgeoffroy_, this has changed in hoary10:56
lewwyits already cracked REdz10:56
geoffroy_oh ?10:56
REdzand is ur usb working helloyo10:56
REdzlewwy, ok10:56
lewwyi just run it, and it tries to init, and then dies10:56
helloyoREdz, dmesg says that it found a removable scsi disk sda at scsi010:56
lewwycould the fact that im running it on RO filesystem affect it?10:57
REdzhelloyo, thats a good thing, wat about fstab10:57
helloyodoesn't say anything about it10:57
REdzlewwy, ye i read up on that at some places for diablo210:57
REdznot sure if its related10:57
lewwymmm10:58
lewwyis captive-ntfs supposed to support r/w10:58
helloyoREdz, no entry for it in fstab10:58
REdzhelloyo, well ye u prob need that in there first10:58
REdzand install some of those tools and start up k3b after that10:59
geoffroy_Can't I had my first user to sudoers ?10:59
Taliesin`your first user (the one you create on install) is in sudoers11:00
geoffroy_that is the problem11:00
Taliesin`u dont want it in sudoers?11:00
geoffroy_My first user, the one I created during install doesnt appear in sudoers file11:00
Taliesin`oh buggery11:01
geoffroy_Sorry, user geoffroy may not run sudo on11:01
lewwyhey is there anyway i can possibly force an unmount of a cd drive?11:01
lewwyheh11:01
lewwygood one jeff11:01
Taliesin`umount -f /mnt/cdrom011:01
Taliesin`-f forces11:01
Taliesin`from the terminal ofcourse11:01
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lewwyargh linux seems to pussy foot around the fact of unmounting cd drives11:02
lewwyif its mounted and semi in use11:02
lewwyyou cant eject it11:02
Taliesin`i never seem to have a problem11:02
lewwywhy can windows do this so easily?11:02
lewwyno, im in the middle of a raven shield install11:03
lewwyi ran cedega Setup.exe11:03
geoffroy_Could you paste your file /etc/sudoers please ?11:03
Taliesin`windows doesnt take control of the cdrom11:03
Taliesin`linux appears to take control of it at a more hardware level11:03
lewwybut...whats the benefit of that?11:03
Taliesin`nfi, it just works for me11:03
lewwyand why can't i just say "i really need that CD, emergency eject"11:03
Taliesin`the only rare case i use umount -f is when i incorrectly burn a CD11:03
lewwyyeh11:03
lewwybut i got an install running off the CD11:04
lewwyand it wont take it11:04
geoffroy_Ok I think that it works11:06
geoffroy_how can i config the pass for sudo ?11:06
geoffroy_cuz he doesn't ask me the password11:06
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geoffroy_if anyone could paste his file /etc/sudoers, I think it would help me11:06
Burgundaviageoffroy_, what do you mean? not asking for password?11:07
Burgundaviahave you entered it within the last 15 minutes?11:07
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geoffroy_my first user wasn't in sudoers file11:07
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geoffroy_so i wrote (with visudo) geoffroy ALL=(ALL)  ALL11:07
geoffroy_so the pass isnt needed11:07
geoffroy_as for root account.11:07
geoffroy_I just want that when i want to change something in system configuration or anything else, it asks me a password11:08
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rungehi. I am having lots of problems with the screen resulution in ubuntu horay11:11
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rungeit is stuck at 800x600 I think. doesent help to change xorg.config. the xserver says that it will go to default resulution cause something cant handle hsync. xorgconfig dident help. xorgcfg dident show any apps, just started with background and nothing else11:13
dabaSlon_slprunge, why horray;)11:13
runge:)11:13
dabaSlon_slpyou changed teh resolution in conf?11:13
danielsrunge: do you have an intel desktop chipset?11:14
rungeyes, the change dident help11:14
geoffroy_so, nobody wants to paste /etc/sudoers here ? :<11:14
rungedaniels, i81011:14
geoffroy_it would help me, i think11:14
danielsrunge: it's a known bug in the intel driver, will be fixed this week11:14
danielsand probably make it into hoary-updates at some stage11:14
rungeah!11:14
Razor-Xhmmmm, anyone here use a trackball?11:15
rungethanks, any way for me to monitor the development fo the bug?11:15
Razor-XdabaSlon_slp: wow, you're up this late?11:15
lewwyhey can i force cedega to release a cd-drive?11:15
lewwyso i can unmount it?11:15
rungelewwy, dont know, but you might be able to use the command "sudo eject"11:16
lewwynah11:16
lewwythat ejects the bottom drive11:16
lewwyi want to eject hdd, not hdc11:16
dabaSlon_slpyup.half slp...11:17
dabaSlon_slp;)11:17
Razor-Xheh11:17
rungelewwy, sudo eject /dev/hdd11:17
lewwybecause, raven shield is using the top cd drive for installing11:17
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Razor-Xi'm doing Romeo and Juliet11:17
lewwyumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy11:17
Razor-Xwhen I go to college with math.... I won't have to do these stupid English essays >_<11:17
Razor-Xlewwy: not sure, but, isn't there a --force command in umount?11:18
kakaltowhy are all the source downloads on transcoding.org broken?!11:18
Razor-Xcheck the man out11:18
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kakaltonot sure about the cvs tho11:18
yahalomwhen i click logout, my gnome-sessions doesnt log out, any ideas?11:18
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Q_Continuummethinks netsplit.11:22
Q_Continuumor just no talk.11:23
yahalomi'm here11:23
Razor-Xboth11:23
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yahalomQ_Continuum, then again its like 2am in the west coas11:23
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=== DarthV4der *weird*
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Razor-XDarthV4der: dude, Padme dies because of you!11:24
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DarthV4derwhy do you say that?11:25
rungeRazor-X, we will always have Closer11:25
webmindhmm, does anyone know if the Epson CX3650 is going to work out of the box ?11:26
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DarthV4derEpson (craps???)11:26
yahalomi get the following error on log in: Error activating XKB configuration.11:27
yahalomanyone know what that is?11:27
Seveasyahalom, is taht the complete error?11:27
webmindDarthV4der, uhm.. epson usually has very good support in linux ?11:28
yahalomSeveas, can i paste the complete error?11:29
Seveasyahalom, use ubuntu.pastebin.com for that11:29
yahalomSeveas, ok11:29
gauravrunge: is ur monitor resloution prob solved?/11:29
yahalomSeveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28257411:30
gaurav?/11:30
Seveasyahalom, no messages before that?11:31
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yahalomSeveas, no11:31
St0n3-C0lhey11:31
yahalomSeveas, maybe its cos i chose to use xorg.conf settings instead of gnome settings?11:31
St0n3-C0lgaim 1.3.0 is in backports ??11:32
yahalomSeveas, no idea?11:33
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DarthV4ders/good/bad/11:34
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geoffroy_hey.11:37
geoffroy_does anyone have a i560 (canon) installed on ubuntu ?11:37
geoffroy_it seems like without turboprint drivers, it won't work11:37
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geoffroy_with hoary, I can't manage anymore network interfaces ?11:43
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geoffroy_there was a small manager for interface configuration, where we could chose profiles for interfaces, it doesn't exist anymore ?11:44
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Burgundaviageoffroy_, it is there11:44
geoffroy_oh ?11:45
Burgundaviasystem-->admin-->networking11:45
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geoffroy_okay, but profiles have disapeared no ?11:45
Burgundaviano idea11:45
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Crasplo11:47
DarthV4derol11:47
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Craspi'm trying to build suphp using dpkg-buildpackage, but now i want it to use apache2 instead of apache1, how do i do that?11:47
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geoffroy_does anyone have a atheros wifi device ?11:50
corvixanyone know about intel 855gm graphics chip and dri?11:51
corvixim getting 4 kBytes additional video memory is required to enable DRI  in the xorg log11:51
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cyphasecorvix, add a 4kb memory stick then11:52
cyphase;)11:52
DarthV4der;)11:52
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geoffroy_atheros chipset only works with madwifi drivers ?11:52
corvixLOL11:53
corvixits a shared mem system11:53
mjrgeoffroy_, yes11:53
mjrgeoffroy_, and those contain a nonfree component and are included in linux-modules-restricted11:54
corvixany way of freeing up some more video memory? deactivating features or so?11:54
DarthV4dermine is not11:54
Seveaslinux-restricted-modules that is11:54
mjrcorvix, perhaps try to use software mouse cursor instead of hardware cursor?11:54
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johnnybe1akhey guys is there a gtk2 app for editing id3 tags11:54
corvix@darth ... you got 855gm runnig with dri in xorg?  but not shared?11:54
Shorty^does ubuntu have mplayer ?11:54
corvixthmmm ... option?11:54
DarthV4der@_@11:55
DarthV4derwtf question11:55
geoffroy_ok mjr11:55
geoffroy_thanks11:55
johnnybe1akShorty: yeah11:55
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geoffroy_and does anyone know how to make a canon i560 working on unbuntu withou turboprint drivers ?11:57
SeveasShorty^, yes, in multiverse11:58
Shorty^ah, ok :P11:59
Shorty^anyone got a sources.list line for it?11:59
wdhfor multiverse?11:59
wdhcheck the wiki\11:59
Seveasdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse12:00
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wdhShorty^, or just add 'multiverse' to the line where 'main restricted' is already listed12:00
wdhand possibly 'universe' too12:01
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andreu_hi. is someone there?12:12
Seveasno12:13
Seveas;)12:13
Fator_Deethis channel is completely empty and we are only illusions12:13
Seveasthere is no spoon12:13
Fator_Deebut there is a fork!12:13
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Seveasandreu_, hi :) you have a question?12:13
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SeveasFator_Dee, you mean a fork()12:14
Fator_Dee;-)12:14
andreu_oh, what interessant conversation with illusions.12:15
andreu_I feel like a medium...  OOmmmmmhhh!!!!12:15
Seveasi'm forking all over the place (MPI programming)12:15
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rizla_hi12:16
Seveashello12:16
rizla_why does ubuntu look in english language while i've installed language-package-it?12:17
Seveasrizla, you still need to tell it to use neglish12:17
Seveasrun dpkg-reconfigure locales12:17
rizla_i'm going to try..12:17
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geoffroy_do you know how can I configure more options for wifi ?12:18
andreu_do you know if catalan language is available in ubuntu?12:18
geoffroy_like WPA...12:18
geoffroy_TKIP..12:18
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Seveasgeoffroy_, WPA is difficult to do12:19
Seveasbut i have it working with a madwifi card :)12:19
geoffroy_oh ?12:19
Seveasgeoffroy_, do you connect to only one wireless network?12:19
rizla_Seveas, do i have to unmark all en_...??12:19
geoffroy_generally, yeah12:19
Seveasrizla_, no, just make sure it generates italian ones too12:19
Seveasgeoffroy_, how well is your linux knowledge?12:20
rizla_yes it does. but it was doing it before too12:20
geoffroy_"medium"12:20
Seveasok, then you need to update /etc/environment12:20
Seveas^^ that was for rizla_12:20
geoffroy_yeah =] 12:20
Seveasrizla, make sure it lists the italian locale there12:21
Seveasgeoffroy_, ok, so you're not afraid to use a terminal and dig in configfiles?12:21
geoffroy_no12:21
Seveasok nice, let's talk in private so we don;t disturb the rest :)12:21
geoffroy_yeah$12:21
rizla_Seveas, do i have to select only one italian locale?or more?12:22
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rizla_ok, Seveas. i did it. i'm going to reboot. wish me good luck :)12:24
andreu_Medium= person that is intermediary betwen dead and alive.12:24
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Razor-Xwoohoo, time to sleep12:29
Razor-Xnight everyone12:29
fsapoanyone knows how can i enable dma mode at boot in my cdrom?12:29
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rizla_searcher`,12:31
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jiyuu0fsapo, http://ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom12:32
fsapojiyuu0, thanx12:32
rizla_Seveas, nothing changed12:32
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flodinehelp tryed to install fluxbox but when it comes up theres no menu why12:33
flodineanyone running fluxbox12:33
pybeflodine: right click on the desktop12:34
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flodinei tryed all i get is menu term12:34
pybeflodine: its minimal what did you expect12:34
pybeflodine: you can add items and I belive there is an app/script that will auto add apps12:35
flodineno there should be a cofi file for .fluxbox12:35
pybecofi?12:35
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flodinepybe in the .fluxbox the menu is empty12:36
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pybewhere did you install flux from12:36
flodinefrom sudo12:36
pybeheh no, where did you get the packages12:37
flodinenot sure i let flux do it12:37
pybeflux?12:37
flodinei mean ubuntu12:37
flodinesorry12:37
pybeflodine: apt get12:37
flodineyes12:37
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pybeflodine: so sudo apt-get install flux* see if it makes a difference12:41
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geoffroy_hey hey dudes, does anybody have a i560 (canon) working on ubuntu ?12:46
geoffroy_I was told that only turboprint drivers work12:46
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geoffroy_wich mail client are u using ?12:50
geoffroy_evolution, mozilla mail or mutt ?12:50
Bazzithunderbyrd!12:51
geoffroy_with a Y like byrds ? =] 12:51
geoffroy_tunderbird enigmail ?12:51
Bazzino, with an i12:51
geoffroy_i'll try it12:51
Bazzimozilla thunderbird :)12:51
geoffroy_and is it installed on unbuntu ?12:51
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geoffroy_or i have to download it12:52
Bazziit's in universe I think12:52
Bazzibut can also be in standard repos12:52
geoffroy_ok, i'll check about universe and multiverse on wiki12:52
dholbachit's in main12:52
Bazzitry an apt-cache search thunderbird12:52
dholbachif you talk about mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail12:52
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geoffroy_ok12:53
Bazzienigmail? whats that? :o12:53
dholbacha pgp/gpg plugin for thunderbird12:53
dholbachlets you sign and encrypt mails12:53
geoffroy_ok12:53
Bazziaaaah12:54
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geoffroy_and for the canon i560 ?12:56
geoffroy_do you know how can i make it working ?12:56
geoffroy_afriend of mine said to me I 'll have to use turboprint12:57
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odysseyi have a problem with ubuntu, sometimes the sound works perfectly and most of the time it loops and programs crash, i dont know whats causing it any ideas?01:04
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larsrohdinhi, ive just connected my digital camera to my usb-port... how do I mount it?01:12
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odysseylarsrohdin, it should automount and appear as an icon on your desktop01:14
larsrohdinnevermind me! i made it on the first atempt=) WOOT01:14
dholbachROCK!01:14
larsrohdinodyssey, i don't use gnome01:14
larsrohdini didn't work the last time, thats why i asked...01:14
odysseyis hal gnome only?01:15
dholbachgnome-volume-manager is01:15
dholbachhal isnt01:15
odysseyhmmm01:15
dholbachyou! want! gnome! :-)01:16
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karljpwhat do I need to get totem to play ac3 audio?01:16
ayvmaat_what is the porblem with ftp.nerim.net ?01:16
ayvmaat_i can' connect01:16
karljpI'm getting sound in xine, but not with totem.01:16
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karljpavy: you probably haven't got the gpg stuff set up properly01:16
dholbachsee you01:18
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shadeofgreyokay01:23
shadeofgreywhats the best CD burning program for ubuntu that DOESNT use KDE?01:24
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dholbachgnomebaker? nautilus-cd-burner01:24
Delgulgraveman...01:24
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LaurenceRoweFirefox has had a security update, but this seems to cause firefox-dom-inspector to break (it is dependent on firefox 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 but hoary-security has firefox 1.0.2-ubuntu5.1) any ideas how to get the security update but keep the dom inspector01:25
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zoddanwhat is "network-manager" ?01:32
michel_does ubuntut recognize automatically usb memory stick?01:33
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foxkhey got a strange problem with the man pages , anyone want's to hear it?01:34
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zxchow do you delete something using terminal01:34
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petemczxc: man rm01:35
zxcman rm [name of file] , petemc?01:35
petemcno, it would be "rm [name of file] "01:36
zxcah k01:36
zxcthanks01:36
michel_usb memory stick with ubuntu howto?01:36
petemcbut the man page will tell you more01:36
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Q_Continuummichel_, just to use a memory stick with Ubuntu?01:36
zxchmm, what's the opposite of cd as I'm in /zxc/home and I want to get to /01:36
petemccd ../..01:36
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petemcbut cd / would work too01:37
Q_Continuumor just cd /01:37
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zxcrm: cannot remove directory `realplayer': Is a directory01:37
zxc, petemc it says that :/01:37
petemcman rm01:37
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petemczxc: you really dont want to be manually removing stuff, thats why you have package management01:38
manitoba98xpI heard that Hoary was supposed to be when tools for deriving from Ubuntu would be released, but I can't find anything. Has it been cancelled? Will it be in Breezy? Are they available, and I just can't find them?01:38
zxcyeah but I installed realplayer and it doesn't work so I need to remove it01:38
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petemczxc: how did you install it?01:38
michel_Q_Continuum yes just how to use it. i connect it01:39
Q_Continuumit should detect it fine, and make a link on the desktop, assuming that USB is working correctly.01:39
michel_nothing on desktop01:40
manitoba98xpCan anyone respond to me?01:40
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manitoba98xpExcuse me, can anyone respond to my question?01:41
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Fator_Deemanitoba98xp: could you rephrase your question, I don't seem to understand what you are asking about01:41
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manitoba98xpI've read mailing list posts and the like (found via Google) that speak of tools for deriving from Ubuntu.01:42
manitoba98xpIt said they were to be released in Hoary (that was before Hoary release).01:42
manitoba98xpDo such tools exist right now?01:42
michel_Q_Continuum noting on desktop01:43
michel_Q_Continuum noting on desktop01:43
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Q_Continuumhmmm01:43
Q_Continuumbrowse the filesystem to /media01:43
Zotnixmanitoba98xp: As I recall from meeting with someone that those tools weren't deemed 'good enough' for the Hoary release.01:43
ZotnixStill in development.01:43
manitoba98xpkk01:43
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manitoba98xpwill they be in Breezy?01:43
ZotnixIf they are good enough ;)01:44
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manitoba98xpso...do you know how much progress has to be made? (Do you think it will be in Breezy?)01:45
yccheok_I saw there is a Other folder in my Applications start up menu, how i can remove it?01:45
michel_michel@ltsp01:/media$ ls01:45
michel_cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy001:45
michel_michel@ltsp01:/media$01:45
michel_Q_Continuum: media has noting01:45
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Q_Continuumhmmmm01:46
michel_but /proc/bus/usb/device T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 201:46
michel_B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  001:46
michel_D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  101:46
michel_P:  Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.0601:46
michel_S:  Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.10-5-386 uhci_hcd01:46
michel_S:  Product=Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB01:46
michel_S:  SerialNumber=0000:00:14.201:47
michel_C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA01:47
Q_ContinuumI'm not sure then...anyone else have any experience with usb flash drives?01:47
michel_I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub01:47
michel_E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   2 Ivl=255ms01:47
michel_devices (END)01:47
pshendis there a way from the command line to look though each file in a certain directory for a certain string, then return the file name?01:47
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liablemichel_: 'dmesg | tail'01:48
liablesudo01:48
fidgetdoes anyone know how to view which ports Gnome BitTorrent is running on?01:48
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yccheok_I can i remove the menu item from startup menu?01:49
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Fator_Deefidget: I'd guess the defaults01:49
fidgetdefaults being?01:49
Fator_Deewait a sec01:49
fidgetah ... don't go out of your trouble dude01:49
liabledoesnt bittorrent pick random ports?01:50
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Fator_Deefidget: too late :-)01:50
michel_michel@ltsp01:/mnt$ dmesg | tail01:50
michel_e100: eth0: e100_watchdog: link up, 10Mbps, half-duplex01:50
michel_NET: Registered protocol family 1001:50
michel_Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c02f0500(lo)01:50
michel_IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver01:50
michel_ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PBTN] 01:50
michel_ibm_acpi: ec object not found01:50
michel_apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)01:50
michel_apm: overridden by ACPI.01:50
michel_eth1: no IPv6 routers present01:50
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michel_eth0: no IPv6 routers present01:50
michel_michel@ltsp01:/mnt$01:50
pshendis there a way from the command line to look though each file in a certain directory for a certain string, then return the file name?01:50
Fator_Dee6881-688901:50
fidgetyeah i'm trying to set up this stupid router with port forwarding .. only i've no idea which ports it is01:50
fidgetAhhh score01:51
fidgetthanks much01:51
liablemichel_: does lsmod show usb modules loaded? Dont paste the output here01:51
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BrianB04Hey all01:52
dead^^how can I 'uncomment' on sources.list?01:53
Fator_Deedead^^: remove the #01:53
liabledead^^: remove the #01:53
Fator_Dee:-)01:53
michel_liable: only usbcore usbcore               107384  2 uhci_hcd01:53
dead^^:) thx01:53
BrianB04Rmove the...oh nevermind;)01:53
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liablemichel_: 'sudo modprobe usb-storage; modprobe sd-mod'01:54
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michel_liable: ok done01:56
fidgetFator_Dee Thanks man01:57
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liablemichel_: no errors?01:57
liablemichel_: plug it in and do the dmesg thing again01:57
Fator_Deefidget: I'm glad I could be of help01:58
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michel_liable: no error and usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 401:59
kuntu whats mozilla-xremote-client use ?01:59
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michel_liable: noting on desktop01:59
liablemichel_: sweet, what is it called sda1, sdb102:00
liablemichel_: from dmesg02:00
liablemichel_: what desktop?02:00
liablemichel_: slow typer? :)02:01
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kart_hi, all02:02
cyphasehey02:02
kart_anyone from India?02:03
michel_michel@ltsp01:/mnt$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt02:03
michel_mount: /dev/sda1 ist bereits eingehngt oder /mnt wird gerade benutzt02:03
michel_mount: Laut mtab ist /dev/sda1 auf / eingehngt02:03
cyphaseseeing as india has a population of 1 billion, i think there's probably a few people from india02:03
cyphase;)02:03
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kart_cyphase: where you from?02:04
liablemichel_: can you translate that into english :(02:04
cyphaseCalifornia02:04
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kart_cyphase: cool02:05
cyphaselol02:05
kart_cyphase: many indians there..02:05
anthony_Hi, I am trying to install a VPN Client and the install script is asking where linux kernel source code is located. Can anyone help?02:05
cyphasecalifornia is full of people from everywhere02:06
k31thGuys is there a ubuntu documentation team?02:06
kart_anthony_: /usr/src/linux/02:06
petemcit wont be there by default..02:06
resiakmichel_: Try LANG=C sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt02:06
k31thand a place where people can request HowTos they want or would like ?02:06
liableanthony_: install kernel-source for your kernel, should be in /usr/src02:06
michel_liable: tell that /dev/sda1 is mounted on /02:06
k31thas i would be keen to help or  set one up02:06
resiakmichel_: (to get the stuffs in English)02:06
dead^^anyone here who's configured mozpluggerrc multimedia player settings. I read that I should add 'stream noisy ignore_errors: totem "$file" </dev/null' somewhere, but i'm not sure where i should type it02:07
k31thwell if anyone from ubuntu wishes to contact me please pm me as im going for lunch be back in 5 mins02:07
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michel_mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt busy02:08
michel_mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /02:08
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liablemichel_: well find it then :)02:09
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geoffroy_\o/02:09
geoffroy_does anyone know how can I use my canon i560 with ubuntu02:10
michel_liable: on syslog i have May 11 13:58:16 localhost hal.hotplug[6759] : timout(10000 ms) waiting for /class/scsi_host/host102:10
liablegeoffroy_: gphoto2 or just mount it.02:10
liablegeoffroy_: woops, printer?02:10
geoffroy_but this printer isn't recognized02:10
geoffroy_there is no driver02:10
geoffroy_yeah printer02:10
geoffroy_I have to use turboprint drivers ? :<02:11
SiRrUshello everyone02:11
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liablemichel_: just try this 'sudo umount /dev/sda1'02:11
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liablemichel_: 'mkdir /mnt/usb' and 'mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat -o umask=000 /mnt/usb'02:12
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anthony_liable - sorry if this is new, but how do I install kernel-source ?02:13
michel_liable: umount: /: device is busy02:13
liableanthony_: 'sudo uname -r' then synaptic, and find the source for that kernel02:14
liablemichel_: umount -f /dev/sda1       prolly wont work either02:15
odysseymichel_, sudo umount /dev/sda02:16
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liablebrb booze.02:17
michel_liable: device busy02:18
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k31thmmmmm farleighs rusks are lush02:22
liablemichel_: ok, what desktop you have, kde or gnome? or?02:22
odysseyk31th, ??02:22
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k31thodyssey: baby biscuits02:23
liablemichel_: 'sudo ls /'02:23
michel_liable: gnome02:23
k31thi just bought a double pack of them02:23
odysseyo02:23
k31thmunchiesss02:24
k31thooh guys02:24
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k31thi have this problem my mouse is stuck and my printer wont work02:24
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clausmehow do i add02:25
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k31thhttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/PeterLB/Mouse.jpg02:25
clausmea shortcut02:25
clausmeo xine02:25
michel_michel@ltsp01:/mnt$ sudo ls /02:25
michel_bin    dev   initrd      lost+found  opt   sbin  tmp  var02:25
michel_boot   etc   initrd.img  media       proc  srv   usb  vmlinuz02:25
michel_cdrom  home  lib         mnt         root  sys   usr02:25
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clausmeon desktop02:25
k31thright click on desktop create launcher02:25
clausmek02:25
liablemichel_: in your filebrowser go to usb02:25
michel_so i have usb but cd /usb has noting inside02:26
liablemichel_: is there anything on the stick?02:27
k31thlsusb ?02:27
liablemichel_: ls -a /usb02:27
michel_i test it with windows it was somesongs mp302:27
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liablemichel_: use metacity to go there02:28
clausmehello02:29
michel_what ist metacity02:29
clausmehow do i open02:29
clausmegames using wine gui02:29
clausmei canot lunch gui02:29
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liablemichel_: 'sudo lsmod' is there a vfat or fat module in there?02:30
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michel_liable: sudo touch mifile it works02:31
liablemichel_: ?? so there was nothing on it?02:32
BoD_SWATI installed Ubuntu with only my secondary TFT attached (on secondary port). Now I want to set my primary CRT again (on the primary port). 1. How do I do that? (2. Do I need to add 2 devices to xorg.conf? 3. And has it something to do with my BusID?)02:32
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michel_may be the stick is empty sorry but before it was something02:33
^robDoes anyone here have Ubuntu installed on a G5?02:33
liablemichel_: np, at least its done. :)02:33
zoddanFETT det skar02:33
zoddansknt ljud02:33
michel_thanks you02:33
liable^rob: bob2, when hes around, I think has one.02:34
lucychilirob there is an ubuntu on an imac here02:34
clausmei hyave pe p4 on 2.8gxz02:35
clausmerealy hard qouestion how do i enable 5.1 in ubuntu02:37
clausme?02:37
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dead^^i've installed w32codecs and Totem-xine but the sound's missing =(02:38
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fsapohi all, anyone knows how can i setup my dvd so the dvd playback will show in the tv instead of the monitor?02:39
fsapothe tv out is working, i just dont get any videos on the tv screen02:39
Zenhey all.. i have a network going and one of the pc's is windows.. i can access all the shared files on the windows pc from here.. but not access all the files on the linux pc.02:39
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yosefI'm looking for a media player which is similar to windows media player 10...  supports video and audio, has a library and configurable gui. Any suggestions?02:39
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k31thZen: have u setup any file shares with samba on the linux pc ?02:40
Amaranthstupid storm02:40
ZenK31th: i dont understand samba.. if you can show me what to do id be grateful02:40
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k31thZen: you need to use samba02:40
xmylonadishello everybody02:41
liableyosef: I dont think there is such a beast, all in one02:41
ZenK31th:  But how?02:41
xmylonadisnew to ubuntu and need a little help02:41
ZambbaWhere is my FAT32 partition? :D02:41
ZenK31th: i have it installed02:41
k31thgoogle for a samba howto and ill help if you get stuck02:41
k31thahh02:41
k31thwell02:41
ZambbaI have now Ubuntu in my computer but I can't find my FAT32 anywhere :D02:41
xmylonadisi have installed ubuntu 5.04 on my laptop02:41
ZambbaOr I don't know how to search02:41
xmylonadiscan someone help??02:41
k31thgo to /etc/smb.conf02:41
clausmewhait02:41
clausmea sec02:41
clausmeZambba02:42
Amaranthxmylonadis: You haven't told us what's wrong.02:42
dead^^hi, all. i've installed w32codecs and Totem-xine but the sound's missing =(. do I have to install any separate audio codecs to have them work properly?02:42
Zenok02:42
k31thuse nano or some thing02:42
liableZambba: navigate to /dev and it should be there02:42
yosefliable: which apps can I patch together?  xine can run from prompt and so can xmms....  are they worth patching to a common gui?02:43
clausmezamba sudo mkdir /media/windows02:43
clausmesudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup02:43
clausmesudo gedit /etc/fstab02:43
k31thand edit the share section to the dir's you want sharing then, start the samba servoce02:43
Amaranthdead^^: is sound missing for just one movie file or all of them?02:43
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dead^^Amaranth, All of them02:43
liableyosef: sure if can do it, by all means, but why do you need that in the first place?02:43
clausmeZambba Append the following line at the end of file02:43
clausme/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    umask=0222      0       002:43
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clausmesorry02:44
clausmenot that02:44
wietsehello....;-)02:44
clausme/dev/hda1       /media/windows  vfat    umask=000       0       002:44
clausmethis line Zambba02:44
Zambbavfat? ok02:44
Amaranthdead^^: System->Preferences->Sound, uncheck "Enable sound server startup"02:44
Zambbawell how do I know is it /dev/hda1 or /hda202:45
clausmeyes02:45
liableclausme: assuming hda1, is his vfat partition ;)02:45
yosefliable: it's not about need it's about want...  Are xmms & xine the recommended players?02:45
clausmeyes02:45
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Amaranthdead^^: then try to play a movie02:45
clausmenow he can figure it aout02:45
ZambbaI used to have 2 Windows partitions before I made space with Partition Magic for Linux02:45
clausmehimself02:45
Zenok K31th: ive edited it.. is the run command just samba?02:45
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xmylonadisi have problems with acpi, cpu frequency and vga02:45
dead^^Amaranth, umm... where? on Totem preferences or elsewhere?02:45
Fackamatoanyone tried e17?02:45
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k31thZen:02:46
clausmenow02:46
xmylonadisit identifies my athlon xp 2400+ M02:46
clausmei need help02:46
Amaranthdead^^: System is one of those menus on the top of your screen02:46
saulihow I get sounds work in ubuntu?02:46
ZenK31th:?02:46
clausmedoes anyoane know how to enable 5.1 in ubuntu02:46
clausme?02:46
robstahi, kernel build baild on failing "abiname" file, what could i do?02:46
liableyosef: depends on your tastes entirely, try them all, and see what makes you happy02:46
xmylonadisbut i can't change it's frequency from the cpu frequency monitor02:46
liableclausme: 5.1 what?02:46
clausmesound02:46
liableahhh02:47
ZenK31th: How do i run it?02:47
yosefliable: is there an audio player similar to foobar?02:47
liableno :)02:47
xmylonadisand it's always at 353MHz02:47
clausmeis there an winamp for debian02:47
clausme?02:47
liableyosef: what?02:47
dead^^Amaranth, now all my sounds went dead =)02:47
Amaranthyosef: xmms is similar to winamp02:47
clausmecant02:47
clausmeinstall02:47
clausmexmms02:47
clausmesome erors02:47
Amaranthyosef: we're proud we don't have a foobar2000 :)02:47
clausmeor how do i start xmms02:47
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Zenanybody here02:48
Zencan tell me02:48
Zenhow to run02:48
Zensamba02:48
Zen?02:48
xmylonadishelp...02:48
clausmegot it02:48
yosefamaranth: i know and i don't really like it, foobar has better dsp options (both unpatched)02:48
Amaranthdead^^: ok, now go to System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selection02:48
dead^^Amaranth, and then?02:48
Amaranthdead^^: err, Selector. anyway, in there change the default sink from esd to oss02:48
Amaranththat should fix all your 'other' sounds02:49
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xmylonadishelp...02:50
k31thZen: /etc/init.d/samba start02:50
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xmylonadisanyone that can help/02:51
xmylonadis?02:51
dead^^Amaranth, i tried it and it gives the testing sound but still, no sound02:51
clausmexine stack when i tried to load an subtiitle.srt02:51
clausmeanyoane know why02:51
clausme?02:51
dead^^Amaranth, on my totem-player =P02:51
Amaranthdead^^: ok...02:51
Amaranthdead^^: can you play an mp3 or something with totem?02:51
Amaranthdead^^: or does that give nothing too02:52
clausmethere is a program like dc++02:52
clausmeon debian02:52
clausme?02:52
Amaranthclausme: Please type out your full question before hitting enter.02:52
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dead^^Amaranth, no, it says that i should install corresponding plugins or something like that02:53
Amaranthdead^^: oh, that's different02:53
clausmei formulated my full question02:53
Amaranthdead^^: you know what, i give up. install vlc :)02:53
clausmethere is a program similar to dc++ od rmdc on debian02:53
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Amaranthdead^^: Other than WMV3 if vlc won't play it it isn't playable on linux. :)02:53
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clausmeAmaranth02:54
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Amaranthclausme: Get the dcgui package.02:54
clausmehow02:54
clausme?02:54
Amaranthclausme: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager02:55
clausmegot02:55
clausmeit02:55
clausmek02:55
clausmei got i wint apt-get02:55
Amaranthclausme: click the search button on the toolbar, type dcgui02:55
Amaranthok, apt-get works too02:55
Amaranthsynaptic is just a gui for apt, so it's the same thing02:55
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dockanehi all .. i need to import a adressbook of thunderbird from a ntfs partition to my thunderbird on ubunut. any idea what to import ?02:56
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xmylonadishey i need help......02:57
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dockanethe thunderbird on the ntfs partition is a windows$  version. i forggot to export the adressbook. any chance to recover it from the installation files ?02:58
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Amaranthxmylonadis: If someone knows how to help they'll respond.02:58
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mr_robotodockane: can't you boot to windows again in order to export it? (not sure what the address book file is without having it installed)02:59
Amaranththe addressbook file is abook.mab02:59
dockanemr_roboto, booting is impossible02:59
dockaneAmaranth, tried to import that but all entries were empty03:00
Amaranthhrm03:00
mr_robotodockane: is there an associated index file?03:00
JormundgandThere wouldn't be any more images like this one, would there? http://www.ketsuban.net/images/backgrounds/Minimalistic_Black_and_White.jpg03:00
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xmylonadis_anyone that can help me with the frequency issue?03:02
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fabiohello guys03:03
JormundgandAMD Athlons are known not to support CPU frequency modification by Ubuntu.03:03
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JormundgandIf you watch the startup messages it should say. It certainly does for my AMD Athlon XP 2200+.03:03
fabiodoes somebody knows how to set up GTK+ enviroment on Ubuntu? I mean programming for it?03:03
zoddanWTF is thie03:03
zoddanthis03:03
zoddaneth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device03:03
zoddanthe network was working this morning03:03
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xmylonadis_the powernow daemon starts03:04
xmylonadis_and although it lists my cpu as a 800mhz processor03:04
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xmylonadis_it now runs @353mHz03:04
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xmylonadis_i read at the forums that it supports amd powernow and cpu scaling03:05
xmylonadis_but i don't have the problems that these guys mentioned03:05
xmylonadis_i only need to change the frequency03:05
xmylonadis_is there any configuration file tha i could alter ot smthg?03:05
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mindmedicxmylonadis, the frequency will rise when prcessor is at a high load03:06
xmylonadis_really?03:06
NermalxMaximex, that's normal03:06
Nermald0h.. fool03:06
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mindmedicyes, try it03:06
Dave9191hey guys, i need a hand compiling some code , it cant find libz during ./configure03:06
xmylonadis_how can i check that?03:06
mindmedicthats the purpose of this daemon03:06
mindmedicdo something cpu intensive03:07
xmylonadis_any default progs on ubuntu?03:07
SeveasDave9191, then install zlib1g and zlib1g-dev03:07
mindmedicif you use gnome use the cpu monitor applet to watch the speed03:07
clausmehow do i run wine in gui03:07
clausme?03:07
mindmediccpu intensive programs, enough out there :)03:07
Amaranthclausme: You mean a gui to easily run a program you've installed with wine?03:08
ravenOUSne body know the reason why i can install dvd shrink using wine, but i cant fully UNinstall it?03:08
FackamatoravenOUS: don't use dvdshrink in wine03:08
clausmei don't know i what to paly a game03:08
ravenOUSwhy not?03:08
ravenOUSwhat should i use then?03:08
clausmeand i don't know how to use wine03:08
mindmedicogmrip03:08
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Amaranthclausme: Oh, you need a subscription to cedega then. wine doesn't have much for directx support.03:08
Dave9191Seveas i was missing zlib1g-dev, cheers03:08
Kyaneoshi03:08
mindmedicforhet what i said03:09
ravenOUSFackamato: so what else should i use instead of that to copy dvds in the same way?03:09
Fackamatoa windows computer03:09
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SeveasDave9191, you always need the -dev versions when you compile stuff, they contain the headers03:09
Jormundgandmindmedic: "cpu intensive programs, enough out there"? You say that like it's a good thing.03:09
clausmecan you tell me where can i get cedega for free03:10
clausme?03:10
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Dave9191Seveas, i know, but i checked the repositories and only zlib1g came up, no -dev version03:10
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Amaranthclausme: No, I'm not going to tell you how to break the law.03:12
clausmeok03:13
clausmeanother question there is a program similar to daemon tools03:13
clausmein debian03:13
clausmesomthing like virtual cd03:13
ptloif the file is an ISO (*.iso), you can mount it using loopback device03:13
clausmeis anrg03:14
clausmeis a nrg03:14
ptloafaik, nothing can read Nero or Alcohol images03:14
Zambbaoh03:14
clausmeand how can i looopback an iso image03:14
clausme?03:14
Seveasonly iso (mount) and bin/cue (bchunk) are supported afaik03:14
Zambbamy sound is screwed up in Ubunut03:14
Seveasclausme, read the manpage for mount or search on the forum, your the zillionth to ask :)03:14
Zambbathe quality isn't good :P03:15
ptloclausme: hmm, i heard that there's nero for linux, maybe it knows how to unpack it03:15
ptlos/it/the .nrg files03:15
clausmei need to load an iso image then how do i do it03:15
clausmei have linux now03:15
clausmei am a noob03:15
clausmehell03:16
clausmeabout that loopbak03:16
clausmething03:16
clausmehow do i do it03:16
ravenOUSne body wants a freakin awesome package of updates for ubuntu...go to http://iso.mrbass.org/ubuntuaddon.zip03:17
mindmedicclausme, that gotta be a 100 times written all over the internet03:17
mindmedicmount the image with -o loop option03:17
Seveasclausme, just search the forums...03:18
mindmedicJormundgand, yes, games are a good thing03:18
clausmeman i need the command line because i have linux for about 2 days now and i have allways used linux03:18
clausmei am in a difrent worl right now03:18
clausmewindows03:18
clausmesorry03:18
ravenOUSclausme:  dont worry man, i was in ur very same position earlier this week03:19
mindmedicyes.. as i said "mount image.iso /your/path -o loop"03:19
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geoffroy_hey dudes, does anybody have a printer canon (i560) which works on linux ?03:19
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Andrilhello all03:19
clausmeok03:19
ravenOUSclausme: once you go linux (and in my case, mappin network drives), you'll never want to go back03:20
AndrilI need some help03:20
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AndrilI just built a new system that was supposed to be fully supported by Ubuntu - but my audio does not work03:21
Andrilis there any way to queue an audio config?03:21
ravenOUSclausme: KDE is the better than Gnome...much closer to a windows environment03:22
ravenOUSclausme:  hope this helps03:22
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ravenOUSLATA PIMPS!!03:22
ravenOUSpeace all03:22
ravenOUSim out03:22
clausmeubuntu has gnome03:22
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clausmehow do i swich kde03:22
clausme?03:22
clausmei have mi iso on my ntfs partition03:23
clausmeit is a problem in mounting it03:23
clausme?03:23
ZambbaMy sound is crackly in Ubuntu. From Windows is does work without cracking.03:23
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FackamatoZambba: Fix it then.03:23
FackamatoAdjust volumes properly. Change buffers. Try another sound system.03:24
AndrilI have no sounf03:24
Andril*sound03:24
Andrilis there an audio config - command?03:24
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clausmeman i am in a little problem here03:27
clausmecan someone help me03:27
clausmei am tring to play starcraft03:27
clausmei have the iso image03:27
clausmebut i try to open it with wine03:27
liableAndril: try 'sudo alsaconf'03:27
clausmean is asking me for the cd03:27
liableclausme: #winehq maybe03:27
clausmei have tried mounting the image and still nothing03:28
Andrilcommand not found03:28
liableAndril: gnome?03:29
Andrilliable, command not found03:29
Andrilliable, yep03:29
Echylocan somebody explain me why I get this error when trying to launch esd , "/dev/dsp directory not found..." :| its like my soundcard is gone :s03:29
clausmenoane is online there03:29
liableAndril: no sound config thing in there?03:29
Andrilliable, this is a fresh install from last night03:29
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Fator_Deeclausme: where did you mount it?03:30
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clausmeroot@clausme:/home/clausme # "mount broodwar.iso /media/windows/jocuri/JOACE kit -o loop03:30
clausmelook03:30
liableAndril: what sound card03:31
liableAndril: lappie?03:31
jono I installed the ubuntu hula packages and run hulasetup and nothing happens, any idea why?03:31
Fator_Deeclausme: mount it to /media/cdrom/03:31
Fator_Deethen try03:31
clausmehow03:31
clausmecan you paste em thecommand line03:31
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Fator_Deesudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /media/cdrom03:32
Andrilliable, lappie = command not found - sorry I am a noob03:32
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Andrilliable, it worked on my other system03:32
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Fator_Dee(and of course when I say file.iso, I mean the iso-file you are trying to mount)03:32
aggei have an error in my ubuntu installation.. it says that it couldent load floppy.ko.. but i dont have a floppy..03:33
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liableAndril: ok, that sound card was supported with another linux distro? what is your sound card? is it a laptop?03:33
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Andrilliable, all I use is Ubuntu03:35
poe-tis there #russian-ubuntu?03:35
liableAndril: and it used to work?03:35
Andrilliable, I had Ubuntu on another PC and it worked fine03:35
Linforcersooo I've got this lame Gnome menu editor taht makes launchers , but can anyone tell me how to make new categories?03:35
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poe-tsome1 setup ubuntu apache to work with many encodings?03:35
Fator_Deepoe-t: try #ubuntu-ru03:35
poe-tFator_Dee, tks03:35
aggeoh.. it said cp: input/output03:36
AndrilI just built this PC BiostarM7VIG 400 systemboard w/ Via AC97 Audio03:36
liablepoe-t: theres a #debian-russian, dunno about ubuntu03:36
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poe-tliable, ok. there is #ubuntu-ru03:37
poe-ttkds03:37
poe-ttks03:37
liableAndril: yes, well the *other* pc prolly has diff hardware :)03:37
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Andrilliable, I read were the Biostar M7VIG 400 was completely the ideal board for Ubuntu - so I oredered it03:37
liableAndril: 'sudo lspci'03:37
liableAndril: what the sound say?03:38
Dave9191checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!03:38
Dave9191what package do i need to fix this ?03:38
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liableDave9191: qt-dev prolly if make xconfig03:38
Andrilliable, 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)03:39
Dave9191liable - qt-dev not found03:39
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xmylonadis_how can i configure acpi in gnome?03:40
liableDave9191: aplogies, libqt3-dev03:40
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Dave9191liable - i just installed that, but i still get the same msg on ./configure03:41
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liableAndril: 'sudo lsmod | grep snd'03:42
liableDave9191: configuring what?03:42
Dave9191liable - im trying to comiple the sourcecode for kuake03:42
liableAndril: install alsa-base, alsa-utils03:43
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GetMy nvidia-driver-installation is broken03:43
liableDave9191: apt-cache search qt303:44
Getnow X won't start03:44
Getbut I havent done nothing...03:44
Dave9191liable - i tried that already and ive installed around 40mb of  libs, but still no dice03:44
ivokslol03:44
liableDave9191: obviosly not the right ones :)03:44
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Dave9191liable - obvisoly not, but i dont know what else i need03:45
liableDave9191: qt3-apps-dev,qt3-dev-tools?03:45
Andrilliable, they are installed - what if i install another sound card - do I have to reconfigure?03:45
clausmemount-iso is availebele in debian03:46
clausme?03:46
clausmeits suports nrg03:46
clausmeand is a gui program03:46
liableAndril: if alsa is installed then 'sudo alsaconf'03:46
Dave9191liable - i had qt3-apps-dev, qt3-dev-tools, then libqt3-dev unistalled qt3-apps-dev03:46
geoffroy_dudes, could you just tell me if i can make a canon i560 working with ubuntu03:46
geoffroy_(without turboprint drivers)03:46
liableDave9191: look in the readme?03:47
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liableDave9191: or install, should say what you need03:47
ivoksok... wifi-radar is ok now03:47
IcemanV9clausme: wanna try this way - http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning03:48
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Andrillaible, not found - should I reinstall or install another card?03:48
Dave9191liable - doesnt mention qt in any of them03:49
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Getplz help me03:50
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clausmei found a file called install.sh how do i run it03:51
clausme?03:51
bloombergGet: whats up?03:51
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liableDave9191: sorry, dunno, whats your qt versions, >3.0?03:51
Getbloomberg: nvidia problem03:51
clausmei found a file called install.sh how do i run it03:52
clausme?03:52
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liableclausme: sudo /path/to/script/install.sh03:52
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GetI haven't change anything, but when I started the computer the xorg won't start03:52
Dave9191liable - how do i check the versions, ive only been installing qt3, so im guessing >3.003:52
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liableDave9191: dpkg -L qt3-apps-dev03:53
xmylonadis_how can i configure acpi in gnome?03:53
jahorhi, pls is it possible with some existing tool to make a selective mirror ? i mean... i want some packages and all related packages to mirror. maybe i could use debootstrap and some magick, but some some specific tool could be better03:53
liablexmylonadis_: to do what, its not a gnome thing, its a system thing03:53
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Dave9191liable - qt3-apps-dev got unistalled due to conflicts when libqt3-dev came on03:54
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liableDave9191: well pkg -L one of em03:54
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liabledpkg even03:54
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Dave9191liable 3.3.303:55
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BoD_SWATI installed Ubuntu with only my secondary TFT attached (on secondary port). Now I want to set my primary CRT again (on the primary port). 1. How do I do that? (2. Do I need to add 2 devices to xorg.conf? 3. And has it something to do with my BusID?)03:56
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liableDave9191: hmmm, try the compile again, I really dont know, libqt3 usually does it :(03:57
Dave9191liable - thx anyway, maybe it just cant find the libs03:58
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liableBoD_SWAT: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'04:00
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Rudihello all, i have problem with gnome user permissions04:01
Rudiany help for my?04:01
syndanyone help me figure out why my CDROM is choppy why i play CDs?04:01
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desrtRudi; it's best to just ask your question04:01
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b_e_n_zsynd: DMA disabled?04:01
syndwhy - when*04:01
liableRudi: explain, the prob, we arent pyschic04:01
desrtsynd; because by default ubuntu is setup to play cds by ripping them and playing them04:01
syndb_e_n_z: no04:01
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synddesrt: thats stupid04:02
syndit worked fine with warty04:02
desrtsynd; it gets worse.  i can't find the option to disable it.04:02
liablesynd: it does what?04:02
syndi noticed the same problem on my Toshiba laptop when i installed hoary (fresh install)04:03
liablesorry desrt it does what?04:03
desrtliable; the cd player used to work by just telling the cd to play.  then the audio cable between the cdrom and the soundcard would be used for transport (analog)04:03
Andrilliable, am I screwed?04:03
desrtliable; now it basically rips the cd and plays it through the soundcard (digital)04:03
Rudidesrt: ok i require disable any interface changes in gnome (panel..)04:03
syndbut my dell, i installed hoary and it plays cds fine04:03
desrtRudi; gconf has these things called 'lockdown'... they're fairly new but maybe one of them covers what you're trying to do04:04
Rudii require disable any interface changes in gnome (panel..) hm?04:04
syndbut my emachines tower and my toshiba laptop both play choppy.04:04
liableAndril: did alsaconf work?04:04
syndugh04:04
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liablebrb04:04
desrtRudi; go into gconf-editor04:05
Rudidesrt, yes, but lockdowns not work with my ubuntu. i search and trying 3 hours with google and no function. ;-(04:05
desrtunder /apps/panel/global04:05
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desrtyou'll find a checkbox that says 'locked_down'04:05
desrtcheck it04:05
Rudidesrt, ok i have opened desktop/gnome/lockdown in gconf, and?04:05
desrtno.  this lockdown is not in there04:06
desrt09:05 < desrt> under /apps/panel/global04:06
Rudidesrt, aha.. moment..04:06
Rudiaha..04:06
Rudi;-004:06
desrt:)04:06
Andrilliable, it keeps saying command not found04:07
geoffroy_what are u using for listening music ?04:07
BoD_SWATliable, thnx, will try it04:07
syndgeoffroy_: cd player04:07
Rudidesrt, locked_down ;-) wow, VERY THANKS!04:07
geoffroy_:!04:07
desrtRudi; no problem :)04:07
syndgeoffroy_: ?04:07
geoffroy_was speaking about a software04:08
geoffroy_which player04:08
geoffroy_i don't think u re using rythmbox ?04:08
syndyeah04:08
syndits called cd player04:08
geoffroy_oh ?04:08
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syndApplication > Sound & Video > CD Player04:08
syndit automatically opens up when i insert a music CD04:09
geoffroy_well hmm04:09
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geoffroy_a player which can manage libraries04:09
geoffroy_like itunes or winamp04:09
syndi cant figure out how to try to get xmms to play CDs tho04:09
neuroboosteurtotem ?04:09
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resiakgeoffroy_: rhythmbox04:10
geoffroy_i know there is a software better than xmms04:10
synditunes & winamp isnt available for linux04:10
geoffroy_but i can't remember the name04:10
geoffroy_yeah yeah i know04:10
geoffroy_but a itunes or winamp like04:10
syndxmms = winamp04:10
syndfor the most part04:10
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syndand when i try to rip a CD with sound juicer.. it rips at 0.5x04:11
Rudidesrt, and disabling alt-f2?04:11
resiakbmp !04:11
resiakmpd !04:11
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clausmei got cedega for free04:13
clausmeman i am good04:13
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ikhi04:13
Andrilliable, this is the Onboard card (C-Media CMI9761A 6-Channel AC'97 CODEC)04:14
ikwhat is a nice program to whach movies?04:14
ivoksik xine04:14
ikoh ok04:14
Fator_Deeik: xine, vlc or mplayer04:14
ikthanks04:14
Fator_DeeI use them all :-p04:14
ikok :)04:14
syndi recommend xine, ik04:14
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ivoksfor DVD i use only xine04:14
ikok i install now :)04:14
ivoksmplayer is ok for quick and dirty porn :)04:15
ikfor avi?04:15
ikxDD04:15
Rudiis there any answer: 1) disabling alt-f2 in gnome 2) disabling minimize animation in gnome ?? ;-))04:15
ivoks1) yes04:15
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Daanhi all04:15
ivoksRudi keyboard shourtcuts04:15
geoffroy_ivoks,  and what do u use to listen music ?04:15
Daananybody here know a good ogg to mp3 converter?04:15
clausmexine stak when i try to load an subtitle why04:15
clausme?04:15
ivoksgeoffroy_ for my mp3/ogg collection i use quodlibet04:16
geoffroy_ok04:16
geoffroy_thanks04:16
ikwhat is the program to install programs?04:16
ivoksDaan ogg -> wav -> mp3 :)04:16
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iksyntic?04:16
Rudiivoks, ?04:16
geoffroy_synaptic, ik04:16
ikoh ok thankyou :)04:16
ivoksRudi you want to disablee alt-f2?04:16
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Rudiivoks, ok i find it, oh..04:17
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Rudiivoks, sorry.. keyboard shortcuts.. yes.. yes..04:17
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Daan ogg -> wav -> mp3 :), what do you mean? is there not a nice little app that i can get via synaptic to convert an ogg to mp3?04:18
geoffroy_you cant convert an ogg to mp304:18
geoffroy_you have to convert it in wav fist04:18
ivoksDaan mp32ogg04:18
Daanokay, is there an app that will convert an ogg to wav, and a wav to mp3?04:18
ivoksDaan maybe it can do vice versa :)04:18
willisDaan, oggdec + lame04:19
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ivoksDaan it can;t :)04:19
Daani just read that too ivoks, thanks though04:19
Daanwillis, either offdec or lame or both04:20
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willisDaan, oggdec will turn an ogg into a wav04:20
ivoksDaan here is answer:04:20
willisDaan, and lame will encode a wav as mp304:20
Daanokay, many thanks04:20
willisDaan, no problem04:21
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ivoksDaan for i in `ls *.[mMpP] 3 | cut -d'.' -f1` ; do oggdec $i.ogg $i.wav && lame -b 192 $i.wav $i.mp3 ; done04:22
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Andrilliable, one more question - if I install another card will I have something to configure?04:23
Daanivoks, wow, hmm, let me see.... so after installing both offdec and lame that command will turn th ogg into wav and directly thereafter to mp3? does it than delete the wav too?04:23
ivoksups04:24
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resiakYou really don't want to transcode from ogg to mp3 ... them mp3 will sound like ass.04:24
Rudiknow here any people, how disable minimizing animation in gnome?04:24
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resiakIn the window manager options?04:24
Tomcat__Can anybody please tell me where I can read changelogs of package updates? I just received the mozilla-firefox update and I would like to know if that fixes the bug from yesterday...04:25
Daanresiak, it will sound crap? really?04:25
ivoksDaan for i in `ls *.ogg | cut -d'.' -f1` ; do oggdec $i.ogg $i.wav && lame -b 192 $i.wav $i.mp3 ; done04:25
Rudiresiak - i have installed default gnome in ubuntu with default window manager04:25
ivoksresiak that's true04:25
resiakDaan: Of course. Because Ogg Vorbis throws some of the data away, and mp3 throws different data away.04:25
resiakDaan: You really want to make your mp3s from uncompressed rips.04:25
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fluideyei need help configuring wireless card04:26
Daanokay, is there a good ripper for gnome that will make mp3's from a cd?04:26
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resiakgoobox!04:26
resiaksound-juicer!04:26
ivoksgoobox is ok04:26
Daani have sound juicer but im cannot make mp304:27
jeroen_Daan: Why do you need mp3?04:27
ivoksfor mp3 player04:27
mjrwell, truthfully, for many relevant applications ogg->mp3 works "well enough", for example for throwaway copies made for an mp3-only pocket player04:27
Daanyup04:27
wezzersudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad04:27
jeroen_check the wiki on restricted formats04:27
dockanei need tailf ... is that an alias ?04:27
mjrbut of course it _will_ be worse than encoding a lossless copy04:27
jeroen_mjr, ogg -> mp3 is a bad thing to do04:27
mjrjeroen_, my point was that it isn't always too bad04:28
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black_Nightmareany of you know about linux and videos?04:28
agge_hello04:29
black_NightmareI was wondering if video-out is not always supported by linux: true?04:29
agge_What is the DEB thinhy.. like deb http://etc etc04:29
ivoksblack_Nightmare it is or isn't supported by manufacturer04:29
mjrI have a script to transcode ogg vorbis files to mp3 for my n-gage which only plays mp3; I don't use the files for any other purpose, and throw them away when I'm done listening. "Well enough."04:29
ivoksmjr i agree.. for that... you can live with that quality04:30
black_Nightmareivoks...hmm...let me see if it even mentions the chipset....04:30
fluideyeis wireless a sore subject?04:30
black_Nightmare"Intel Extreme Graphics 2 Technology" is all I can tell04:30
black_NightmareI think thats a similar vga graphic chipset that hp computers used before..or I might be wrong04:30
ivokslaptop04:30
sorsis_i just got my 5.04 from mail and i'm testing AMD64 livecd. every picture on this CD is corrupted and many programs just don't start. is everything ok on the other CD?04:30
black_Nightmareand duh..yeah... this is a laptop -- I should have mentioned that04:31
ivoksblack_Nightmare i don't think that chipset has ever had tv-out04:31
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ivoksblack_Nightmare on lot of laptops there is connector for s-video, but isn't working04:31
abbashi04:32
ivokse.g. on mine :)04:32
black_Nightmareivoks... "1 S-Video output port*" is what the laptop specifications says .. and a footnote states "* Not tested/supported with Linux04:32
black_Nightmare" in smaller font04:32
dockanewhere do i get 'tailf'  from ?04:32
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black_Nightmareso it does have to be a working video-out04:32
fluideyefirst time on x-chat, help?04:32
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abbashow can i install java for imac g404:32
ivoksblack_Nightmare well... it says it isn't supported04:32
ivoksfluideye welcome04:32
fluideyethank you04:33
black_Nightmareivoks... well...or they didn't test it either way?04:33
Daanin goobox i cannot select mp3, how do i activate that?04:33
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black_Nightmarelikewise with the via epia boards .. linux has some video i/o working but I dunno if its fully yet04:33
ivoksblack_Nightmare I never worked with that chipset :(04:33
fluideyeivoks  can you help with wireless config?04:33
ivoksoh no, not again :)04:33
fluideyeoops04:33
mdJakehello04:33
ivoksfluideye what card?04:33
black_Nightmareivoks...ty anyhow ... is it possible to find a 56K chipset for laptops that linux is happy to support?04:33
fluideyert250004:33
black_Nightmarebecause this thing has one and it doesn't even point to the footnote at all04:34
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ivoksblack_Nightmare modem?04:34
fluideyei followed the how to listed in the forums and was able to get it up (ra0)04:34
ivoksfluideye great04:34
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karljpanyone know how to get ac3 audio wtih dvds in totem?04:34
ivoksfluideye and?04:34
karljpI've got the video, and I've got sound with xine, just not totem04:34
fluideyewas sending and receiving packets but wouldn't connect04:34
mdJakeCan you tell me where can I find docs about the 2.6 kernel's disk handling principles?04:35
black_Nightmareivoks...yes ... modem04:35
mdJakeI mean04:35
fluideyeso I rebooted got04:35
mdJakeide, scsi and scsi emulation04:35
ivoksblack_Nightmare yes, mine is working04:35
mdJakewhat the modules do etc04:35
fluideyeconfiguring network devices...unable to supply power04:35
black_Nightmarehmm ty...04:36
ivoksfluideye type iwconfig in terminal and tell me does it report any wireless adapter?04:36
ivoksblack_Nightmare it's intel's modem04:36
black_Nightmareok just a stupid question but....04:36
JormundgandThere wouldn't be any more images in the same style this one, would there? http://www.ketsuban.net/images/backgrounds/Minimalistic_Black_and_White.jpg04:36
fluideyeno just eth0 and lo04:36
ivoksfluideye sudo modprobe rt250004:36
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black_Nightmare14" xga (1024x768) or 15.4" wxga (1280x800) .... would it be true about lcd looking funny outside their one native res or I could get the 15.4" and ram down 800x600 daily without a problem?04:37
black_NightmareI've been around tons of crt..and very few (mostly store's) lcd :">04:37
ivoksblack_Nightmare LCDs do good only on one resolution04:38
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ivokssome don't even work on others04:38
black_Nightmarehrm...and if I asked for lower res.. what would happen?04:38
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fluideyeivoks module not found04:38
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ivoksfluideye give me URL that you were using04:38
fluideyei'm not sure what you mean04:38
ivoksblack_Nightmare it would work... but 1280x800 is 16:9, and 800x600 is 4:304:39
cappehey guys.. I can't find firestarter in Synaptic? Why is that?04:39
ivoks<fluideye> i followed the how to listed in the forums and was able to get it up (ra0)04:39
black_Nightmareivoks....you saying its going to stretch or would it just show black borders?04:39
kestascappe you need universe and multiverse04:39
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ivoksblack_Nightmare well, my screen can do both04:39
kestasgo to /etc/apt/sources.list04:39
ivoksblack_Nightmare depends on config in BIOS04:39
gokmenzeyrekslm04:39
gokmenzeyrekmillet04:39
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BoD_SWATI don't know if anyone can... but what was the dpkg command someone told me here in the chat? (I forgot to enable xchat logging :S)04:40
fluideyeivoks http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RT2500WirelessCardsHowTo04:40
black_Nightmareivoks..hmm since I don't know much into that area...how would a screen look like if you tried to fit 4:3 screen into a 16:9 display?04:40
cappekestas, well I can't find those.. I just tried04:40
ivoksblack_Nightmare ugly04:40
kestasare you in /etc/apt/sources.list?04:40
ivoksjesus... this howto need serius work :)04:41
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ivoksfluideye do cd ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module04:41
ivoksfluideye then: sudo insmod rt2500.ko04:41
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JormundgandHow do I get my USB headphones to use OSS (which works) as opposed to ALSA (which doesn't)?04:41
black_Nightmareivoks....ughh....would there be a way to run ubuntu in 1280x800 but display font sizes/etc rescale as if it was around the same as on a 800x600 instead?04:41
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black_Nightmarelike eg with windows .. increasing icon size and using larger system font04:42
alexandrehi04:42
ivoksfluideye then: sudo cp ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module/rt2500.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/04:42
ivoksfluideye copy paste this, don't rewirte04:42
kestasokay type this: echo "deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe main restricted multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list04:42
ivoksblack_Nightmare ?04:42
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kestasthen go to synaptic and refresh04:42
kestasfirestarter will be there04:42
black_Nightmarehmm let me try rephase that question (or did anyone else understand?) ......04:43
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ivoksfluideye then: sudo echo "alias ra0 rt2500" >/etc/modprobe.d/rt250004:43
cappekestas, now I uncommented the universe lines.. Couldn't find anything with multiverse04:43
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kestasscrew multiverse then04:44
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kestasrefrest04:44
cappek04:44
ivoksfluideye sudo echo "rt2500" > /etc/modules04:44
kestas*refresh04:44
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ivoksfluideye now do: sudo depmod -a04:44
ivoksfluideye and sudo modprobe rt250004:44
black_Nightmareivoks...if I went with a 1280x800 screen could I like resize the font/graphics/etc that it'll kinda like look about the similar to as if it was on a 800x600 screen?04:45
ivoksfluideye wait!04:45
black_Nightmareunderstand that or still not?04:45
ivoksfluideye sudo echo stuff won't work :)04:45
ivoksblack_Nightmare why would you do that?04:45
cappeaw, sweet thx a bunch kestas now it did work :)04:45
ivoksblack_Nightmare it will look same, only wider04:46
kestasnp :)04:46
black_Nightmareivoks...not getting weird stretches but still close to the res I want....ughh.....wait...I think I am sounding weird04:46
black_Nightmare:p04:46
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ivoksfluideye anyone at home? :)04:46
fluideye sudo cp ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module/rt2500.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/  cannot stat: no such file or directory04:47
fluideyeoh, i've got to change daily to 2005051004:47
ivoksfluideye did u erase that directory?04:47
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ivoksfluideye yeah04:47
fluideyeone second04:47
fluideyestill getting no such file04:48
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rottishow i get my sounds work , i have integrated soundcard but i dont know else..04:49
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ivoksfluideye ls -dl ~/rt2500*04:49
JormundgandCould anyone help me get my USB headphones set up and working correctly? They're currently set to use ALSA which doesn't work. I want to set them to use OSS.04:50
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fluideyeno file04:51
ivoksfluideye where did you download that file?04:51
ivoksfluideye on desktop?04:51
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dabaSlonivoks, is there an option through cfdisk on every Ubuntu to choose xfs fs?04:51
fluideyehome04:52
ivoksok, you don't have any idea what i'm talking about?04:52
ivoksfluideye then ls -dl ~/rt2500* whould show it04:52
ivoksfluideye couse ~ means home04:52
ivoksdabaSlon ?04:52
ivoksdabaSlon you choose FS whil instaling04:52
dabaSlonyou said yesterday taht that fs is good,04:53
ivoksdabaSlon you can't convert to other fs04:53
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dabaSlonso that is what it is displayed under?04:53
ivoksdabaSlon best04:53
manuel_hallo?04:53
dabaSlonright best.04:53
ivoksdabaSlon !?04:53
manuel_gread it works04:53
manuel_great04:53
ivoksfluideye we can go from begining if you want04:53
fluideyewhen I try and use cd~/ I have been unsuccessful so I've taken that part out when changing to that directory04:53
dabaSlonacuse last night I was looking for it....some guy was trying to format a hard drive...it was humorous...04:53
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dabaSlonacuse, cause04:54
ivoksfluideye cd ~04:54
fluideyethat would be great, i've been trying to do this for two months04:54
fluideyek04:54
ivoksfluideye open terminal, you know to do that?04:54
fluideyeI've got it open and have cd ~04:54
jeroen_ivoks, right mouse button on your desktop04:54
ivokslol04:54
ivoksjeroen_ alt4 x on my :)04:54
ivoksfluideye ok, enter pwd and gime me output here04:55
jeroen_ivoks, whatever :p04:55
ivokswho uses mouse theese days? :)04:55
fluideye ivoks /root04:55
black_Nightmareivoks..LOL04:55
ivoksfluideye lol04:55
clausmewine suports windowsxp04:55
clausme?04:55
ivoksfluideye exit04:56
clausmei canot configure it04:56
ivoksfluideye type exit04:56
fluideyeand04:56
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ivoksfluideye now enter pwd04:56
Anti-TThello04:56
ivoksfluideye cd && pwd04:56
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klexysanyone: how do i mount a windows drive at startup time?04:56
fluideyeo.k., i don't know if i'm the but of a joke or what04:57
mdJakekjsdglkhadjgbaldjngpadiohgapsndgpq3u52935u3ihtpwnbpeirubzg2837r23hfpwnvpsdaihv2198z3r42hrfqpvnspghwe8zrqhf04:57
darkauditclausme: edit ~/.wine/config and replace win98 with winxp as the version you want to use04:57
jeroen_so true, mdJake04:57
mdJakesdgnpwe41723rzwqngpdigh2w39u12fjhovgnsdkbnapeighqz9rtuqegjspdnhsprdit9uqw04:57
ivoksfluideye open new terminal and enter whoami04:57
jeroen_mdJake, I agree with you completely04:57
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mdJakewhy?04:57
fluideyewhat are you wanting to find out04:58
clausmedarkaudit can you give me the exact command line i am noob here04:58
Nermalvim :)04:58
ivoksfluideye I want you to do this as user, not root04:58
darkauditgedit .wine/config04:58
Fator_DeeNermal: don't be hars on him :-)04:58
Nermal:)04:58
ivoksfluideye you are root, couse "cd" will get you in your home, and pwd will tell tha path04:58
Fator_Dee*harsh even04:58
ivoksfluideye if pwd returns /root, then you are working as root04:59
Nermalor if you have a # at the prompt04:59
fluideyeok now I'm at corey@crypto04:59
ivoksfluideye whoami will give me more help, couse, you don't know anything about UNIX/Linux04:59
jeroen_mdJake, sfaksfjedfjaskfsfjawer29350cjfaQsfo04:59
Nermaljeroen_, don't feed him :)04:59
ivoksfluideye ls -dl ~/rt2500*04:59
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mdJakesorry I didn't behaved05:00
jeroen_Nermal, sorry; are you the guard?05:00
fluideyedrwxr-xr-x  5 corey corey   4096 2005-05-10 17:00 /home/corey/rt2500-cvs-2005051005:00
fluideye-rw-r--r--  1 corey corey 298101 2005-05-10 17:00 /home/corey/rt2500-cvs-daily.tar.gz05:00
ivoksfluideye ok now just copy paste what I tell you05:00
fluideyek05:00
jeroen_mdJake, what were you doing?05:00
mdJakegot impatient sorry acted fooly05:01
Fator_Deeshould I open some port on my firewall to get the dictionary program to work?05:01
ivoksfluideye sudo cp ~/rt2500-cvs-20050510/Module/rt2500.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/05:01
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fluideyeok no output05:02
mdJakewas just curios about installing Java05:02
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mdJakethere is quite a lot of ways described05:03
mdJakein ubuntuforums.org05:03
mdJakeand I got dizzy05:03
ivoksfluideye it will ask for password, enter it05:03
ivoksfluideye and?05:03
JormundgandHmm. Seems Linux uses the Alt Gr key in the same way Macs do.05:03
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mdJakewhich way is the best?05:03
ivoksfluideye ok... now:05:03
ivoksfluideye sudo -i05:03
fluideyek05:04
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fluideyei'm at root05:04
krazihi all05:04
ivoksfluideye echo "rt2500" > /etc/modules05:04
dabaSlonivoks, when you get a chance, tell me which number on this list, if any...for that xfs http://pastebin.com/28266605:04
dabaSlonyo krazi...05:04
ivoksdabaSlon for linux05:04
krazihui, wrong channel :)05:04
fluideyeno output05:04
ivoksdabaSlon 82... or 83? which was it?05:05
ivoksfluideye ok05:05
ivoksfluideye now:05:05
dabaSlon83, that is the one05:05
dabaSlon?05:05
mdJakeam I on the wrong channel?05:05
ivoksyes05:05
ivoksfluideye modprobe rt250005:05
dabaSlonoh, ok, thats easy:)05:05
krazii wanted to join ubuntu-de^^05:05
JormundgandGoooooood grief. That list still has CP/M on it.05:05
dabaSlonk, hehe05:05
jeroen_Jormundgand: how doe macs use alt gr05:05
ivoksfluideye now type in iwconfig05:05
JormundgandExample: Alt Gr-4 gives .05:05
ivoksfluideye it should report wifi card05:06
fluideyewait module rt2500 not found05:06
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ivoksfluideye ok05:06
fluideyewith modprobe05:06
ivoksfluideye depmod -a05:06
mdJakecan you tell me then where can I ask q about Ubuntu and Java, mplayer etc?05:06
ivoksfluideye and then modprobe rt250005:06
fluideyek05:06
jeroen_jormundgand: ehh.. WIndows does sorta the same, right? But with alt gr 505:06
jeroen_mdJake: here; or read the wiki on "restricted formats"05:07
fluideyek05:07
Jormundgandjeroen_: Windows did euro on Alt Gr 4, but that was the exception, not the rule.05:07
ivoksfluideye iwconfig05:07
JormundgandThe only other function the Alt Gr served was making accented vowels.05:07
dabaSlonmdjake, did you read in the topic: Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask!05:07
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erpelhi05:07
dabaSlonyo05:07
mdJakeI'm newbie to irc too05:07
fluideyelo        no wireless extensions.05:07
fluideyeeth0      no wireless extensions.05:07
fluideyesit0      no wireless extensions.05:07
fluideyera0       RT2500 Wireless  ESSID:""05:07
fluideye          Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.412 GHz  Bit Rate:1 Mb/s05:07
fluideye          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off05:07
fluideye          Encryption key:off05:07
fluideye          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:005:07
ivoksno!!!05:07
clausmehow do i install a .deb pagage05:07
clausme?05:07
fluideye          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:005:07
ivoksdon't pase man05:07
fluideye          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:005:07
mdJakehow to read topic?05:08
ivoksjesus...05:08
Jormundgandivoks: Bit late to say "don't paste".05:08
jeroen_Jormundgand: alt gr 4 doesn't even work for me :/05:08
erpeldpkg -i bubb.depp05:08
ivoksfluideye don't do that ever again05:08
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fluideyeok05:08
erpel-p05:08
fluideyesorry05:08
jeroen_clausme: sudo dpkg -i blabla.deb05:08
dabaSlonI dont know, in my program, there is a line at the top, mdjake05:08
Jormundgandjeroen_: Keyboard layout set to UK?05:08
ivoksJormundgand well, i wasn't expecting that :)05:08
jeroen_Jormundgand, negative; US int05:08
mdJakeyes I see that05:08
JormundgandYou want a UK one. US keyboards don't have Alt Gr.05:08
ivoksfluideye ok, your wifi is working, and will work every time ubuntu starts now05:08
dabaSlonmdjake, says topic?05:08
dabaSloncool, we have the same program:)05:09
mdJaketopic05:09
fluideyethank you so very much!05:09
dabaSlonwhats your question?05:09
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mdJakeah "/topic"05:09
fluideyei'll test tongight when i get home05:09
jeroen_Jormundgand, I have a logitech access keyboard05:09
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dabaSlonor that...05:09
dabaSlon:)05:09
ivoksfluideye now, go to system, administration, netowrking05:09
jeroen_Jormundgand, it has the buttons like Us int keyboards do; my father has a UK-lay-out, and it's different05:09
ivoksfluideye and setup your wifi connection05:09
jeroen_Jormundgand, I do have an Alt Gr05:09
ivoksfluideye or05:09
Jormundgandjeroen_: But if you're not set to a keyboard layout which uses Alt Gr it won't do a thing.05:10
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mdJakeso, I'm now at #ubuntu right?05:10
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JormundgandUS int has no Alt Gr. UK does.05:10
dabaSlonmdjake, right:)05:10
ivoksfluideye nothing... use networking :)05:10
Raptoidwhat is ubuntu install for xchat2.4.305:10
jeroen_Jormundgand, well, Loitech's being stupid then ;) How could I go about putting it to use05:10
fluideyeok, can i just let the default settings ride and use dhcp05:10
mdJakeis this Ubuntu Help then?05:10
[eDu] hi05:10
ivoksfluideye i don't know05:10
ivoksfluideye that depends on your access point05:11
jeroen_mdJake: If you're using Xchat, you'll see on the top of your window the channel topic05:11
dabaSlonmdjake, current topic is: Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask!05:11
fluideyei use at home on linksys G and school05:11
dabaSlonbut, yeah, this is a place you can get specific help...05:11
mdJakeI'm using Hoary's X-Chat05:11
ivoksfluideye go to networking, click on your wireless adapter, choose properties05:11
mdJakefinally, I see05:11
jeroen_mdJake, I'm aswell; see the thingy in the top?05:11
Jormundgandjeroen_: Switch to UK layout.05:11
mdJakeyeah05:12
dabaSlonjeroen_: he got it...05:12
mdJakeUbuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask! | Archive fixed | Please don't use Breezy yet | FAQ: www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root | Support Information: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ | kubuntu discussion in #kubuntu and #kubuntu-devel | Ubuntu 5.04 is released!  http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-April/000023.html05:12
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jeroen_Jormundgand, blah, those have othere keys than I have; I know05:12
ivoksfluideye then "this device is conifgured"05:12
dabaSlonand /topic too.05:12
jeroen_Jormundgand, my father has UK and it differs05:12
ivoksfluideye on ESSID choose ur connection, leave it on DHCP and hit ok05:12
JormundgandWhat does the top of the top row of numbers look like? (Shift+1,2,3,4,5...)05:12
mdJakeis this an official channel05:12
jeroen_!@#$%^&*()05:12
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trygvebwHi!05:12
mdJakeor should I ask about backports05:12
ivoksfluideye active ur wireless connection and that's it05:13
jeroen_trygvebw, HI!05:13
Jormundgandjeroen_: You have US. UK is !"$%^&*().05:13
jeroen_Jormundgand, told you ;)05:13
trygvebwHow do i open the firewall to make people able to access websites running on Apache?05:13
regeyamdJake: congratulations, you've figured out that this is an official irc channel.05:13
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ivoksmdJake nope05:13
jeroen_My father has UK; with @ in the left top05:13
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fluideyethanks again bro for not making me feel like a complete idiot and walking me through05:13
rottis!"#%&/()05:13
ivoksmdJake there isn't official channel05:13
Jormundgandjeroen_: UK keyboards do not have @ at the left top.05:13
jeroen_Jormundgand, hmm.. wait a second05:13
ivoksfluideye np05:13
Jormundgand@ is above /, above and to the right of .05:13
trygvebwThis is the official channel, afaik...05:14
trygvebwIf it wasn't, it would have to be ##ubuntu...05:14
dabaSlonmdjake, seriously...just ask, and if noone knows, ask elsewhere...05:14
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ivoksthis is community support05:14
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mdJakedo you use mplayer?05:14
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ivoksmdJake yes05:14
Fator_Deeunofficially official channel05:14
regeyamdJake: do you have a question, or are you going to keep trying to figure out if this is official or not?05:14
trygvebwivoks:; Of course, but it is official anyway05:14
regeyaoh boy05:14
ivokstrygvebw ah, ok...05:14
fluideyeivoks  one more05:14
regeyamplayer [nameofmediafile]  HTH05:14
dabaSlonregeya: :)05:14
mdJakeregeya, about mplayer05:14
dabaSlonIm like dying to hear what his queston is herer...05:14
dabaSlonhe got our attention...:)05:15
trygvebwHow do i open the firewall to make people able to access websites running on Apache?05:15
fluideyedo i have to activate the ra0 and eth0 whenever i want to use each card05:15
regeyadabaSlon: 'how you use mplayer'05:15
jeroen_Jormundgand, hmm.. I always thought his was UK; it's not NL and not US int, stupid Dells ;)05:15
ivokstrygvebw there is no firewall :)05:15
RaptoidAzureus settings help zoom x405:15
dabaSlontrygvebw: open port 80 for outgoig traffic, and incvoming erquests05:15
Raptoid?05:15
mdJakewhere should I apt-get mplayer?05:15
trygvebwdabaSlon, that's the problem: How? :)05:15
ivoksfluideye when you start ubuntu, driver will load and wifi card will work05:15
dabaSlonregeya: ?05:15
trygvebwmdJake, just run "sudo apt-get install mplayer" in a console or install it with Synaptic.05:15
karljpthere is no firewall by default, just no services by default05:15
mdJakewhich rep. has the best package nowadays?05:15
Jormundgandjeroen_: You might try looking up keyboard layouts. Alt Gr is a Europeanism for Euro-only characters like  and .05:16
regeyadabaSlon: that was his question05:16
trygvebwmdJake, Universe.05:16
karljpjust install the webserver and you're good to go05:16
ivoksfluideye then you just have to go to networking and activate interface05:16
mdJakethere's marillat and05:16
fluideyecool05:16
dabaSlonregeya: oh...where?05:16
dabaSlonlol05:16
hacIs it normal that Openoffice take 30 seconds to start with a p4?05:16
trygvebwkarljp, i have done, but other people can't access it...05:16
mdJakeuniverse, yes05:16
ivoksfluideye switching beetwen networks is still crapy in ubuntu, will be better in next version05:16
karljpare you connected directly to the internet?05:16
trygvebwThe others *easily* corrupt Ubuntu.05:16
trygvebw*.05:16
trygvebwkarljp, yes05:16
fluideyeso I deactivate eth0 and activate ra0 whenever i want to use AP?05:16
trygvebwOr no05:16
karljpare you _sure_ ?05:16
mdJakeI managed to set it up05:16
ivoksfluideye yes, but...05:16
karljpcan you access your webserver at localhost?05:16
mdJakeand w32codecs too05:16
trygvebwkarljp, yes05:17
dabaSlonmdjake, do you need to use MPlayer?05:17
ivoksfluideye you should configure it first every time, so you can select ESSID05:17
trygvebwlocalhost works05:17
trygvebwIP doesn't05:17
karljpor have you installed a firewall that you're not mentioning?05:17
sorsis_if i'm using 5.04 livecd, what is password for root?05:17
dabaSlonor can it be anything that runs movies>?05:17
karljpwhat IP doesn;t?05:17
trygvebwkarljp, not afaik05:17
mdJakedabaSlon, you mean?05:17
trygvebwkarljp, the IP to my computer05:17
mdJakedabaSlon, It's not good?05:17
ivokssorsis_ there is no password for root05:17
fluideyei'm not sure i follow configure it first every time05:17
trygvebw193.216.24.19705:17
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jeroen_Jormundgand, I know.05:17
ivoksfluideye first configure connection, then activate05:17
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mdJakeI tried totem-xine05:17
dabaSlonno, I mean, its just a little harder to set up, just cause you have to get it from some repo that tries to authentcate, and sometimes it requires more work, thats all...05:17
fluideyeivoks  k05:17
karljptryg: how are you connected to the net?05:18
ivoksfluideye you should do that every time you change enviorment (school, workplace, home, etc...)05:18
mdJakebut there I cannot set subtitle properties05:18
karljpthrough a home modem/router thing?05:18
dabaSlonmdJake: I have instructions on how to install MPlayer, step by step...05:18
trygvebwivoks, WLAN/ADSL05:18
JormundgandI'll ask my question again now. How do I get my USB headphones working? They're set to use ALSA which fails to work, and I want them to use OSS which does.05:18
ivoksfluideye in next version of ubuntu, that will be much better05:18
trygvebwivoks, two routers, the ADSL one and the WLAN one05:18
dabaSlonmdJake: yeah, maybe there are none, maybe there are too...05:18
wazquisanyone know how to enable ircomm instead of sir, when i start irda-utils it automatickly loads the sir driver...when i ran mandrake i used ircomm and it worked...but i can't make my IR work now..anyone?05:18
ivokstrygvebw ?!05:18
fluideyecool, i'm liking ubuntu so far, was using mandrake 10.105:18
trygvebwivoks, ?05:18
karljpso have you got portforwarding set up on one of them to send http to your machine?05:18
ivoks<trygvebw> ivoks, two routers, the ADSL one and the WLAN one05:18
ivoks?!05:18
trygvebwyes05:18
mdJakedabaSlon, I have mplayer but behaves strangely05:18
dabaSlonmdJake: areyou trying to get MPlayer, then? Is that your mission?05:19
karljpdoesn't sound like it :)05:19
dabaSlonlike what?05:19
ivokstrygvebw what?05:19
_nate_sleepingISPs sometimes block incoming port 8005:19
trygvebwkarljp, how? :D didn't know i had to do that ;)05:19
karljpalso, that means you're not "dirctly connected to the ne"05:19
trygvebwkarljp, well05:19
ivokstrygvebw what are you trying to tell me?05:19
trygvebwivoks, nothing :)05:19
mdJakedabaSlon, e.g. can't open a video with it when another instance is already open05:19
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dabaSlonmaybe has to do with video output plugin...05:20
mdJakee.g it cries for subtitle font05:20
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trygvebwSo how do i set up port-forwarding?05:20
karljpdepends on your home router05:20
ivokstrygvebw on router05:20
dabaSlonon your router...05:20
mdJakethat's why I asked which is the best version for Hoary now05:20
fluideyeivoks, it seems that it ubuntu runs my Averatec 3260 hotter than does xp, heard that before?05:20
trygvebwSkyr@cer PRO WBR 65405:20
trygvebwRouter ^05:20
trygvebwWLAN05:20
dabaSlonpoint the browser to your router web interface, and play around05:20
trygvebwok :)05:20
trygvebwthanks :)05:20
ivoksfluideye I don't know what are you talking about... what is averatec?05:20
fluideyenotebook05:21
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ivoksah...05:21
karljpprobably just the adsl one tryg05:21
mdJakeI would like totem-xine if I could set the subtitle font props (size/font)05:21
dabaSlontrygvebw: you know, like, 192.168.0.1...05:21
trygvebwkarljp, nah05:21
trygvebwdabaSlon, 'course :)05:21
karljpthe wlan is probably just echoing05:21
ivoksfluideye wouldn't know...05:21
mdJakecan you tell me how05:21
dabaSlonk05:21
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ivoksI don't use windows05:21
trygvebwkarljp, it isn't the ADSL router, because it worked before i got the WLAN router...05:21
fluideyeivoks k05:21
karljpok then :)05:21
trygvebw:)05:21
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ivokstime to go05:22
ivoksbye all05:22
dabaSlonbye05:22
IcemanV9fluideye: xp can do one thing at a time, but ubuntu can do many things at once ... therefore, it gets hot.05:22
trygvebwPort Forwarding = Virtual Server?05:22
IcemanV9:P05:22
karljpprobably05:22
trygvebwok :)05:23
fluideyenothing to worry about though?05:23
luvdemheelsDoes anyone here have any detailed instructions on setting up 915resolution?05:23
mdJakedabaSlon, do you have mozilla-mplayer set up?05:23
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karljpmozillamplayer is crap05:23
IcemanV9correct, fluideye05:23
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karljpit crashes, no play controls05:23
mdJakenot the new 2.80cvs05:23
fluideyeicemanv9 k05:23
karljpdies if it underruns the buffer05:23
IcemanV9my notebook gets hot when i was doing a lot of things05:23
mdJakebut crashes - it's true05:23
karljpwell,, the one in apt sucks05:24
mdJakewhen I press back button05:24
karljpand the firefox crashing is pretty unacceptable05:24
mdJakekarljp, you use what?05:24
IcemanV9fluideye: you'll love Ubuntu once you get used to it05:24
karljpI complain that they all suck :(05:24
fluideyeicemanv9  i'm a newbie and don't know that i'm asking ubuntu to do many things05:24
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fluideyeicemanv9  :^)05:24
karljpnone of them are as reliable as mediaplayer on win3205:24
IcemanV9fluideye: been there done that05:24
mdJakeIcemanV9, I set up a week ago and I love it05:24
IcemanV9;)05:24
IcemanV9mdJake: same here - two weeks ago05:25
mdJakekarljp, what do you use for streaming media?05:25
luvdemheelsI take it nobody has used 915resolution??05:25
trygvebwWhat should the settings in "Virtual Server" be? It's asking for "Protocol", "Private Port", "Public Port" and "LAN Server". What should they be set to?05:25
mdJakeIcemanV9, what distrib before?05:25
fluideyeicemanv9  recommend any apps?05:25
trygvebwgnomebaker is nice05:25
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mdJakeback again05:26
IcemanV9mdJake: xp freebsd (now, ubuntu)05:26
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franklin50trygvebw: Public port is the outside port, Private is the internal, protocol is either TCP / UDP  Lan server is the IP you want forwarded to05:26
mdJakeIcemanV9, no linux before? :)05:26
IcemanV9fluideye: check out http://ubuntuguide.org/05:27
trygvebwfranklin50, well, i still doesn't have *any* idea of what they should be set to...05:27
mdJakefluideye, and ubuntuforums05:27
mdJakefluideye, too05:27
franklin50OK, what are you trying to do, exactly?05:27
IcemanV9mdJake: nope, straight bsd for a long time05:27
fluideyeicemanv9 k05:27
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fluideyemdJake k05:27
klexyshas anyone had any problems loading a serial-ata drive from fstab?05:27
difetahow can i setup a pdf printer?05:27
mdJakefluideye, very good - espec the HOWTOs part of forums05:27
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trygvebwfranklin50, i'm trying to make my Apache server work... :)05:28
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IcemanV9mdJake: finally found something that ACTUALLY work "out of the box" so my wife can use it just like xp05:28
mdJakeIcemanV9, I use(d) a Hungarian distro before05:28
trygvebwI was instructed to set up port-forwarding since i have a router.05:28
mdJakeIcemanV9, but loved Ubuntu the second day05:28
IcemanV9mdJake: now, she enjoys it as long as everything works .. like all plugins in firefox05:29
mdJakeIcemanV9, when I managed to set up Beagle for example05:29
mdJakeIcemanV9, or DC++ under Wine05:29
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HackmoHey, can anyone help me set up my sagem usb 800 E2T?05:29
IcemanV9mdJake: i have been meaning to test Wine thingie yet05:29
mdJakeIcemanV9, what plugins do you have under Firefox?05:29
IcemanV9mdJake: all of them - java, adobe reader, realplayer, mplayer & flash05:30
mdJakeIcemanV9, so05:30
mdJakeIcemanV9, java05:30
mdJakeIcemanV9, which way you set it up?05:30
IcemanV9mdJake: my wife loves Yahoo! games (it runs on java)05:30
mdJakeIcemanV9, from an Ubuntu package?05:31
IcemanV9mdJake: installed java according to ubuntuguide.org; it works as it should be05:31
Fator_DeeIIRC you can get java from backports05:32
IcemanV9mdJake: i did not have to fiddle with it; thanks goodness05:32
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mdJakeFator_Dee, but then I will get the Firefox plugin?05:32
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Fator_Deeummm, dunno :-/05:33
karljptrygvebw, did you work out the virtual server settings?05:33
mdJakeanybody using OO.o 2.0 here?05:33
zoddancant get airsnort to work :(05:33
Fator_Deeessentially it's the same package that's been packaged to .deb, so I'd say yes05:33
trygvebwkarljp, franklin50 is helping me :)05:33
karljppublic port 80, private port 80, lan ip the 192.168.* address you have locally.05:34
trygvebwmdJake, yeah05:34
IcemanV9mdJake: it doesn't work?05:34
karljpok, cool :)05:34
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mdJakeI haven't exprienced with it05:34
mdJakeIs it stable enough?05:34
mdJakeworths trying?05:34
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IcemanV9mdJake: OO.o 2.0 works just fine on my box05:34
nosilver4uok, somehow breezy killed my sound05:35
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nosilver4ui'm getting a: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_state:1267: No soundcards found...'05:35
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IcemanV9mdJake: i have written a few letters already, updated my resume - so yeah, it works05:35
nosilver4uany ideas?05:35
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mdJakewhat I like in Ubuntu that it is from Debian still the programs so fresh05:36
karljpsif05:36
mdJakea reak Desktop distro05:36
karljpprograms are only fresh if get into breezy05:36
mdJakereal05:36
karljpno updates in hoary05:36
mdJakebut heard Breezy is too early for now05:36
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karljpyeah05:37
karljpexatly05:37
trygvebwI'm using Breezy ATM.05:37
karljpubuntu is just a much more useful woody05:37
IcemanV9mdJake: agreed; say no more :)05:37
ernstpdoes sudo work after you05:37
trygvebwIt was broken till some weeks ago, but it's mostly fixed now05:37
karljpall the benefits of testing, with less of the downsides, and without being as "stable" as woody05:37
ernstp've written sudo -s for you guys?05:37
Hackmotrygvebw: what's breezy like?05:37
karljpjust like hoary, only with new libs :)05:37
trygvebwHackmo, nice, lots of updates, but unstable :)05:37
mdJakecan anybody tell me: am I able to "ghost" a Hoary install with tar?05:38
mdJakeI mean05:38
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mdJakecan I setup a Hoary for my needs05:38
mdJakethen simply tar it05:38
ernstpcould someone post the interesting stuff from their sudoers file?05:38
mdJakeand bring it to a different computer too?05:38
trygvebwYou don't ghost it, you dd it.05:38
mdJakeI said "ghost"05:38
trygvebwdd if=/dev/sourceHD of=/file05:38
mdJakemeans tar -cvjf ...05:38
trygvebwAnd when you want to bring it back:05:38
trygvebwdd if=/file of=/dev/toHD05:39
sorsis_is there way to get shoutcast streams work on linux?05:39
sorsis_i mean in rhythmbox05:39
petemcsorsis_: xmms or beep play them ok05:39
ernstpping05:39
mdJakeso can it be done either with dd or tarM05:39
mdJake?05:39
trygvebwdd is best.05:39
mindmedicsorsis_, have you checked the RADIO in the left bar05:39
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mdJakesorsis_, I think streamtuner05:39
mdJaketrygvebw, not when you have a different sized partition05:39
trygvebwmdJake, course... :)05:40
trygvebwforgot that ;)05:40
IcemanV9size of disk space doesn't matter if you used dd?05:40
mdJakeIcemanV9, I think it matters05:40
IcemanV9nevermind .. mdJake just mentioned it05:40
ernstpreally, could someone just look in their /etc/sudoers file really quickly for me?05:40
trygvebwernstp, sure05:41
mdJakeI think after dd/tar I do a dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:41
IcemanV9i'd love to try that .. i want the same setup on this box to another box with a smaller disk05:41
ernstptrygvebw, thanks!05:41
mdJakeand Hoary is running on the other machine?05:41
sorsis_mindmedic: yes. but there is only 2 radios. and if i put link to shoutcast radio from web to it, it doesn't understand it. i think there should be filename.mp3 or something at end but all shoutcast links go like this http://net.radio:666/05:41
trygvebwernstp, for what? or should i just copy it?05:41
mdJakeIcemanV9, I suggest taring the whole /05:41
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mdJakethen untar on the other (same filesystem) partition05:42
sorsis_mindmedic: would there be more radios if would install ubuntu and update everything?05:42
mdJakeIcemanV9, after reinstall Grub05:42
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ih8evilHow do I go about installing libgdk-pixbuf2 and libssl0.9.6 ?05:42
resiakAnyone feel like running `dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1`, please?05:43
IcemanV9mdJake: duly noted; will try that after lunch05:43
trygvebwsudo apt-get install PACKAGES05:43
timmowis it possible to have my cardbus network card load the ndiswrapper module on insertion?  I am looking at hotplug, but don't really know where to start05:43
mdJakeI'm asking about the transferability of Hoary because I heard recently that not every kernel is capable of it05:43
karljpii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone05:43
mindmedicsorsis_, menu "musik" add radio something05:43
mdJakesome kernels have the root partition burned inside them05:43
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mdJakeI hope Hoary's isn't05:43
mindmedicsorsis_, and you must have mp3 support05:43
karljptimow: try apt-gettting laptop-net05:43
Amaranthajmitch_: PING?05:44
mdJakeIcemanV9, would you like to hear how do I do it (with another distro but will try with Hoary too)05:44
resiakkarljp: Ta.05:44
ajmitch_Amaranth: yes?05:44
IcemanV9mdJake: i will find out soon enough; another box can be rebuild many times .. not this box05:44
Amaranthajmitch_: oh, you are here. can you reop me?05:44
timmowthanks05:44
sorsis_mindmedic: thanks05:45
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sorsis_mdJake: thanks05:45
difetaI've setup a pdf printer, but every time I  try to print to it the printer says that it is off and nothing gets done. Any ideas?05:45
mdJakesorsis_, streamtuner is cool, yeah?05:45
sorsis_mdJake: seems like05:45
JormundgandHow do I get my USB headphones working? They're set to use ALSA which fails to work, and I want them to use OSS which does.05:45
mdJakesorsis_, check out streamripper too05:46
mdJakesorsis_, can record radios05:46
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mdJakesorsis_, to mp3s05:46
sorsis_mdJake: ok. i'll do that05:46
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mdJaketrygvebw, you said you're using the Breezy?05:47
trygvebwmdJake, yes05:47
mdJaketrygvebw, and have you got the Beagle/Best05:47
trygvebwmdJake, yeah05:47
njokaDa Breezy05:47
trygvebwBeagle is working nicely05:47
Amaranthajmitch_: ?05:47
mdJaketrygvebw, is it working for you?05:47
Amaranthoh05:47
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trygvebwmdJake, yeah05:47
Amaranthajmitch_: thanks05:47
trygvebwmdJake, it works nicely :)05:47
mdJaketrygvebw, I tried it on Hoary05:48
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IcemanV9Beagle? what is it?05:48
mdJaketrygvebw, but my fs was reiser05:48
trygvebwMy FS is reiser, too.05:48
mdJakeIcemanV9, desktop search tool (similar to MacOSX stuff)05:48
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ajmitch_Amaranth: no problems, I'm off to sleep now (hopefully)05:48
yonilis there a program that lets you edit text but is good for describing code ? like, one that can put code inside boxes so its organized, and maybe even color it ..05:49
Amaranthajmitch_: ok, good night05:49
mdJaketrygvebw, the HOWTO says05:49
mdJaketrygvebw, I should mount my /home with user_xattrs option05:49
trygvebwyes?05:49
mdJaketrygvebw, I did that but Beagle didn't find anything05:49
trygvebwhm....05:49
trygvebwWait, i'll test05:49
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mdJaketrygvebw, I started the beagled BTW05:50
trygvebwLet it run for some moments. It needs to index your home dir first.05:50
ernstpyeah, beagled in brezzy is nice!05:50
franklin50How long does Beagle take to do its first index?05:50
ernstp"a while" :-)05:50
trygvebwNah, you're right, in fact... It doesn't work :(05:50
franklin50lol05:51
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trygvebwIt finds web places, but not files :/05:51
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ernstpmake sure you install all dependencies, like evolution-cil and gsf-cil05:51
franklin50Is it fairly quick after its first index? (Live-updating?)05:51
trygvebwfranklin50, yeah05:51
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trygvebwernstp, course05:51
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ernstptrygvebw, works here05:51
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mdJakeernstp, where can I find info about Breezy/Hoary+Beagle?05:51
ernstpupgraded to 2.6.12 so I have /dev/inotify05:51
trygvebwernstp, well, you're running ext3?05:51
ernstptrygvebw, yes05:52
trygvebwah05:52
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trygvebwI'm running ReiserFS05:52
mdJaketrygvebw, I thougth about that05:52
ernstp/dev/sda10      /home           ext3    noatime,user_xattr         0       205:52
trygvebwhm05:52
mdJaketrygvebw, check your .reiserfs_priv directory05:52
trygvebwok, i'll check :)05:52
dead^^hi. does anyone here play guitar, or could strait up tell me how to install DGuitar?05:52
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ernstpdoesn't resierfs have extended attributes?05:52
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dead^^I have problems with it05:53
mdJaketrygvebw, maybe there will be info about xattr there05:53
trygvebwok05:53
ernstpmdJake, checked the wiki?05:53
franklin50dead^^: I play, but I've never heard of DGuitar - what is it?05:53
mdJakeernstp, yes and set it up for Hoary05:53
mdJakeernstp, but on a reiserfs05:53
mdJakeernstp, now I have ext305:53
mdJakeernstp, but haven't tried it yet05:54
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ernstpmdJake, tried what?05:54
ernstpmdJake, ok, so you formatted and you're going to reinstall?05:54
mdJakeernstp, Beagle (I had to reinstall - couldn't switch my root fs otherwise)05:54
Geezer041Good morning. Would anybody be able to help me install Americas Army from a .run?05:54
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dead^^fanklin50, it's Guitar Pro like program wich shows tab and notes and plays them same time on midiplayer. it's hard to explain =P05:54
trygvebwGeezer041, sure :)05:54
Geezer041tk05:54
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[a-z] {2}hi05:55
dead^^fanklin50, are familiar with the Guitar Pro on Windows?05:55
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mdJakeernstp, is Beagle cool BTW05:55
ernstpmdJake, cool indeed!05:55
consumerI'm wondering where I would find the logs from either firestarter or iptables for intrusion attempts ?05:55
mdJakeernstp, I can't imagine it how it works05:55
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consumeror just connection attempts would be good05:55
mdJakeernstp, how can it do things05:55
christie-kunwhere can i find the list of commands ubuntu goes through when starting up?05:55
ernstpwish it would do a normal google search also..?05:55
dead^^fanklin50, fcuk, i meant: "are YOU familiar..."05:56
ernstpchristie-kun, /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc*.d/05:56
ernstpmdJake, do what things?05:56
mdJakeernstp, I checked the videos about Beagle05:56
mdJakeernstp, I had to see it05:57
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ernstpmdJake, yeah, and it works just like that :-)05:57
mdJakeernstp, tomorrow I'll give it a try05:57
ernstpmdJake, gl!05:57
timmowI am confused.  I want to load/unload the driver for my wlan card when it is inserted removed.  Do I need to do that throught the networking system or hotplug?05:57
ernstpmdJake, remember to install libdbus-cil05:57
dead^^but, my original question was: does anyone here know how to install DGuitar?05:58
ernstpmdJake, the deb doesn't depend on it but beagle needs it. should go file a bug...05:58
christie-kunwhat order does it go through those scripts?05:58
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mdJakeI used this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3151805:58
mdJakeernstp, I used this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3151805:59
dockanei have got problems acitivating dma mode for my ide drive : http://pastebin.com/28269905:59
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dockaneis that a chipset problem ?05:59
mdJakeernstp, libdbus-cil ?05:59
mdJakeernstp, I know about dbus05:59
mdJakeernstp, but what is cil?06:00
rj_root@sc01:~ # ssh root@192.168.2.20106:00
rj_ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.201 port 22: No such process06:00
rj_root@sc01:~ #06:00
rj_why would that happen?06:00
rj_theres no iptables06:00
ernstpmdJake, ah, there's .deb packages for everything in breezy now!06:00
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ernstpmdJake, and dbus-cil is just the Mono/C# bindings for dbus06:01
mdJakerj_, r u sure you want to connect as root?06:01
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rj_mdJake: yes, thats not the issue.06:01
dead^^erm, hi all. does anyone here know how to install DGuitar? i have problems with it and the readme is useless =(06:01
rj_mdJake: i'am a experienced admin - it's ok ;)06:01
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mdJakeernstp, it's not on the Wiki Page06:02
ernstprj_, no such process... wierd.06:02
ernstpmdJake, they uploaded it like yesterday06:02
mdJakerj_, so not an sshd_config issue :)06:02
rj_ernstp: exactly -- thats crazy..06:02
rj_mdJake: nope.06:02
ernstpmdJake, the wiki is a wiki, add it :-P06:02
christie-kunernstp: what order does it go through those startup scripts?06:02
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rj_ernstp06:02
rj_root@sc01:/etc # ping 192.168.2.20106:03
rj_connect: No such process06:03
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mdJakerJ_, and sshd is running I bet06:03
rj_it's weirder..06:03
ernstpchristie-kun, the scripts are in /etc/init.d06:03
rj_mdJake: yep -- it seems more ip related somehow.06:03
ernstpchristie-kun, the order is /etc/rc1-5 and then by the number in there06:03
christie-kunernstp: does it execute the ones in inti.d in alphabetical order?06:04
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mdJakerj_, is this a remote server?06:04
rj_mdJake: no - local.06:04
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sigrj_: does that local machine have ssh server installed?06:04
ernstpchristie-kun, no, that's just where the scrips are. if they're executed and in what order is descided by the symlinks in /etc/rc1-5.d folders06:04
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sigthe one your trying to ssh into06:05
rj_sig_ they both have ssh server installed06:05
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sigbut are they running?06:05
rj_sig: also look it's more than ssh i can't ping without getting the same error06:05
rj_sig: yes06:05
rj_root@sc01:/etc # ping 192.168.2.20106:05
rj_connect: No such process06:05
mdJakerj_, ps aux|grep sshd06:05
rj_same connect error06:05
ernstprj_, telnet .... 22 ?06:05
rj_root@sc01:/etc # ps aux|grep sshd06:05
rj_root     13472  0.0  0.0   3472  1436 ?        Ss   May07   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd06:05
rj_root@sc01:/etc # telnet 192.168.2.201 2206:06
rj_Trying 192.168.2.201...06:06
rj_telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No such process06:06
sigrj_: did you follow the howto @ http://ubuntuguide.org ?06:06
sigwhy are you in /etc?06:06
sigjust curious06:06
rj_sig: i was setting up nfs :)06:06
ernstprj_, right, something is really broken! connect() doesn't work on you rsystem? but xchat is?06:06
consumerhas anyone here set up snort on their PPP interface?06:06
rj_no -- im not ircing on the same machine06:06
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ernstprj_, ah.06:07
rj_im on my workstation right atm.06:07
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ernstprj_, does elinks work?06:07
rj_ernstp: i'd hafta install it.06:07
rj_let me reboot it and see if that fixes it.06:07
ernstprj_, go ahead :-P06:07
rj_like windows :(06:07
mdJakewindows, whats that? :)06:07
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rj_glass boxes in your house06:08
dead^^:)06:08
ernstprj_, only, rebooting never fixes anything on linux. but you can't stop trying06:08
mindspinlets the sunshine in06:08
mdJakewithout curtains06:08
rj_ernstp: no, i've had it fix things.. like kernel panics06:08
rj_:)06:08
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Scorpinfi have a problem, i cant delete 3 item's in the trashcan, it complains about my rights. how can i solve this?06:09
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rj_Scorpinf: restore them06:09
ernstprj_, would be cool if you could kexec reboot, so the system thought it rebooted but the power never went off...06:10
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mdJakewe have a small network here at home and if I create a samba share on one of the PCs will it appear in Hoary in Places/Network or I need to mount it before?06:10
mindmedicScorpinf, empty your .Trash/ folder as root.06:10
rj_hehe06:10
ernstpScorpinf, sudo rm -r .Trash/*06:10
Scorpinfok06:10
ernstpmindmedic, can't really do that..?06:10
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mindspin@mdJake on kubuntu it appears in the filemanager06:12
mindspinas share06:13
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dabaSlonhey, is noone talking, or am I offlilne?06:14
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dabaSlonko06:14
dabaSlonok06:14
nosilver4uno one is talking06:15
nosilver4ucrap, i just talked06:15
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mindspinI talk with my computer...06:16
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rapha_Hi all!06:16
mindspinor better to my computer06:16
rj_ernstp: doing a reboot worked06:16
rj_ernstp: :/06:16
Rubinwhats the command to force a fsck at the next boot?06:16
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rapha_I just put my SanDisk from my digital camera into the card reader, but Ubuntu shows only Junk on it. The Camera correctly sees the pictures still though...06:17
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Rubinrapha_: junk?06:17
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rapha_Rubin: Wierd stuff.... one file for example is named ".,"06:18
ih8evilI'm new to Linux. Is there any way for me to change each individual background image for the four workspaces, or do they all need to be the same?06:18
Rubinhuh06:18
Rubindoens the card show up normally in windows?06:18
ernstprj_, eh... well... nice!06:18
ih8evilwhoa.06:19
rj_net split06:19
rj_:/06:19
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ih8evilIs there any way for me to change each individual background image for the four workspaces, or do they all need to be the same?06:20
dabaSlongood question:)06:20
ih8evil:)06:21
patrickxbih8evil:  you're using metacity for your window manager?06:21
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pelleanyone got initng working on ubuntu?06:21
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ih8evilpatrickxb, Um, I'm not sure. I'm new to Linux06:22
mdJakeI've added the Backports repo (I needed some packs from there - w32codecs) and now update manager wants to update my gimp and my gaim - which I wouldn't like to06:22
trygvebwih8evil, then you're using Metacity :)06:22
Fator_Deehttp://wallpapoz.sourceforge.net/ but don't know how this works, haven't used it06:22
mdJakecan I tell somehow not to upgrade from Backports?06:22
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ih8eviltrygvebw, heh, ok, thank you06:22
pelleanyone got Luminocity on ubuntu?06:22
trygvebwpelle, yes06:22
mdJakebeside # it in my sources list?06:22
ih8evilpatrickxb, I guss I am.06:22
trygvebwpelle, it's nice :)06:22
dabaSlonmdJake: well...06:22
ih8evil*guess06:23
pelletrygvebw, luminocity?06:23
dabaSlontaht would be a good place...06:23
trygvebwpelle, yeah06:23
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dabaSlonthat is what I am gonna do after mono finishes installing now..06:23
pelletrygvebw, It takes a lot of fiddling around to get it to work, right?06:23
Fator_DeemdJake: theres a button on the down left corner, from there press status and then marked changes, and then you can just click them of not to be updated06:23
dabaSlonthanks for the link:)06:23
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trygvebwpelle, not a lot really06:23
trygvebwthe instructions are very good06:24
Fator_DeemdJake: sorry, it was in custom -> marked changes06:24
pelleare there packages somewhere? .deb, .tar.gz?06:24
trygvebwpelle, nope06:24
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trygvebwNot afaik, at least06:24
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pelletrygvebw, so - is it useable? does it crash alot?06:24
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patrickxbih8evil:  don't think it's possible... (http://lwn.net/Articles/114983/)06:24
trygvebwpelle, it's not slow, it doesn't crash a lot06:24
mdJakeFator_Dee, but it's the same as # :)06:24
Fator_DeemdJake: but that's only if you update by synaptic though, which seems to not answer your question :-\06:25
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Fator_Deewell, it's not quite06:25
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trygvebw_BUT_ it runs in a window only.06:25
pelletrygvebw, what g.card are you using?06:25
mdJakeFator_Dee, I removed Backports then06:25
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trygvebwpelle, ATI Radeon X30006:25
mdJakeFator_Dee, thought there may be an option to simply discard them06:26
pelletrygvebw, thats sort of top-of-the-line, right?06:26
Fator_Deebut it's not a biggie to disable/enable the backports repo when you need something from there06:26
trygvebwpelle, nope, it's a very cheap card :)06:26
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trygvebwIt's the cheapest ATI PCIE card.06:26
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mdJakeFator_Dee, yes, true - but I'm curious you know :)06:26
pelletrygvebw, well, I'm using an integrated S3 virge or something. at least it does 2d ;)06:27
trygvebwah06:27
Geezer041Would anybody be able to help me sort out my graphics?06:27
trygvebwIt should work, but *very* slow06:27
K_Dallasso it is distribution time :) got my CDs today and going to send them out, people are really liking ubuntu06:27
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pelletrygvebw, Do you know what their dev-plan is? Are they going for a usable / easy to install version in the near future?06:28
stormy73034?06:28
trygvebwpelle, no, they are going to merge with the main Metacity window manager.06:28
Flavthe "whiptail" package needs to update its description (it was copied from the "dialog" package and never changed) - how can i tell who the package maintainer is?06:28
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Flavah, nevermind06:28
pelletrygvebw, ok. see yah06:28
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patrickxbih8evil:  have you seen this?  http://wallpapoz.sourceforge.net/06:29
dr_willisanyone off hand know what the word   "Hemsida" means? filling out a form on a german (i think) site. :P and it wants that info.06:30
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Seveasdr_willis, www.freetranslation.com :)06:30
dr_willisI figured out the address/email/account/password blanks. :P06:30
dr_willisSeveas,  bablefish ddent even know what it ment.06:30
mdJakeGNOME question: by mounting my hds with the mount-option user I managed to show them up in computer:/// But can I control how Gnome name them: I don't like the defaults (e.g. 4 GB data storage, 20GB data storage)06:30
dr_willisit is german?06:30
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SeveasmdJake, gnome doesn't name them...06:31
mdJakeSeveas, then hal name them?06:31
dr_willisSeveas,  heh - it says Hemsida  translated to english is --> Hemsida06:31
SeveasmdJake, they ar fat or ntfs disks right?06:32
rapha_Rubin: I don't have Windows. It worked normally just yesterday. Could try one of the Windows machines at work though...06:32
mdJakeSeveas, fat32, ntfs, ext306:32
mdJakeSeveas, and reiserfs - any type06:32
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Seveaswell, fat32 and ntfs have volume labels06:33
mdJakeSeveas, all of them named after the size06:33
Seveasdunno about the others06:33
Seveasbut why don;t you simply integrate them in your filesystem?06:33
mdJakeSeveas, I know that and my every volume has labels06:33
IcemanV9could not see the picture (movie (dvd) is running on the another box) thru vnc -- all i see is blue screen06:33
mdJakeeven reiser and ext306:33
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mdJakeIcemanV9, why use vnc? use X06:34
mdJakeSeveas, I mounted them under /mnt06:34
mdJakeSeveas, so I see them there06:34
mdJakeSeveas, but the computer:/// Gnome place is so comfortable and user friendly06:35
Seveasah06:35
IcemanV9mdJake: like display:1 or ??06:35
Seveasi find that windows-ish06:35
mdJakeIcemanV9, yes remote-X06:35
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mdJakeSeveas, I have friends who use Linux06:36
IcemanV9mdJake: is there a howto? never done it before06:36
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mdJakeIcemanV9, sudo gdmconfig on the "server" computer06:36
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mdJakeIcemanV9, Security tab06:37
evilmegamanhow do I change the opengl vendor string thing when I do fglrx info? because it should say ATI I think06:38
mdJakeIcemanV9, remove pipe near "disable TCP for remote X connection"06:38
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mdJakeIcemanV9, (I have localized Ubuntu, but will be sg like that)06:38
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agentanyone know of a how-to on how to create deb files (specific to Ubuntu if there is a difference)?06:38
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mdJakeIcemanV9, then XDCMP tab06:38
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mdJakeIcemanV9, enable XDMCP06:39
ggrossagent : dont know but i want to know too !06:39
mdJakeIcemanV9, got it?06:39
Barnabashello06:39
BarnabasIm stuck without sound... :((06:39
Barnabascan anyone help?06:39
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IcemanV9mdJake: gotcha .. working on it - thks06:39
FunraiserBarnabas, how did it happen?06:39
Barnabassound never worked06:40
agentggross, well, if not then i guess one can learn how to create an rpm then convert rpm to deb... although that seems like asking for trouble :D06:40
mdJakeIcemanV9, tell me when ready06:40
BarnabasI followed the guides regarding alsa, but no joy06:40
ggrossagent : i think create a real deb is better06:40
BarnabasAlsa is installed, however I get no sound06:40
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FunraiserBarnabas, check http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly06:40
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agentggross, of course!06:41
Barnabasbeen there, done that06:41
Funraiserok06:41
IcemanV9mdJake: ready, dude06:41
Barnabasstill, no sound06:41
mdJakeIcemanV9, go to the "client" computer06:41
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Funraisertry applications/sound and video/volume control06:41
mdJakeIcemanV9,  and the command is:06:41
agentggross, i founda few how-to's on creating specific deb's... reading them will let you know :)06:41
Barnabasall is up and unmuted06:42
mdJakeX -query <ipoftheserver> :106:42
Funraisertry system/preferences/sound06:42
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Barnabassound is enabled06:42
mdJakeIcemanV9, or X :1 -query <ipoftheserver>06:42
ghetekI have an apple PowerPC 5500/225 and It does not boot into the Ubuntu install CD when i hold down "C" at boot up, it just goes into the hard drive as normally.06:43
IcemanV9mdJake: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.06:43
mdJakeIcemanV9, wait a minute I check it06:43
FunraiserBarnabas, did u try to uncheck enable sound server startup?06:43
Barnabasem...06:43
Barnabasnope06:43
mdJakeIcemanV9, (it works on localhost also)06:43
sylttyexit06:43
BarnabasFunraiser, should I restart06:43
Barnabas?06:44
Funraiserno06:44
mdJakeIcemanV9, yes!06:44
Barnabasok... then what?06:44
mdJakeIcemanV9, sudo X :1 -query <ip>06:44
Funraiserthen launch a mediaplayer06:44
sorsis_what is default password for root on 5.04 livecd?06:44
Barnabasxmms good?06:45
ghetekthere is none06:45
gheteksoris06:45
Funraiserdo u have xine?06:45
sorsis_ok06:45
ghetekopen konsole06:45
trygvebwBMP is better :)06:45
sorsis_thanks06:45
ghetekand type in sudo passwd06:45
Barnabasnope06:45
ghetekthen put one in06:45
Funraisertry xmms06:45
Barnabasno sound :(06:45
sorsis_ghetek: so there was no root user ?06:45
sorsis_ghetek: only ubuntu?06:45
Funraisersince u installed hoary u never had sound?06:45
Barnabasyes06:46
FunraiserBarnabas, did u have warty before?06:46
Barnabasnope06:46
Barnabasin a nood06:46
gheteksoris, there is no root password on the live cd06:46
Barnabasoops06:46
Barnabasnoob06:46
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FunraiserBarnabas, had windows?06:46
Barnabasyep06:46
mdJakeIcemanV9, Success?06:46
Funraiserstill have?06:46
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Barnabasyes06:46
Barnabas(sound works there)06:46
Funraiserdoes it work...06:46
Funraiserk06:46
IcemanV9mdJake: it works, just a mouse pointer and grey background06:46
ghetekI have an apple PowerPC 5500/225 and It does not boot into the Ubuntu install CD when i hold down "C" at boot up, it just goes into the hard drive as normally.06:47
Funraiserweird06:47
Barnabasyep!06:47
mdJakeIcemanV9, move the mouse06:47
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mdJakeIcemanV9, (almost there)06:47
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IcemanV9mdJake: is it possible to keep it in window mode instead of a fullscreen?06:47
IcemanV9mdJake: i could move the mouse .. np06:47
mdJakeIcemanV9, then again06:47
mdJakeIcemanV9, sudo gdmsetup06:47
mdJakeIcemanV9, Security tab06:48
mdJakeyou allow TCP connections for remote X06:48
mdJakeright?06:48
IcemanV9mdJake: yep06:48
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mdJakethen XDMCP tab06:48
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mdJakeEnable XDMCP06:49
mdJakegot it?06:49
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FunraiserBarnabas, anathema is someone who could help u on that, he's not here today, but watch for him06:49
jackasshow do it install bchunk?06:49
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Barnabasok06:49
IcemanV9mdJake: it is enabled06:49
Barnabasbe back later than06:49
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mdJakeIcemanV9, ok06:49
mdJakeIcemanV9, then switch to vt1 (ctrl alt f1)06:50
mdJakeIcemanV9, sudo X :1 -query localhost (for testing)06:50
mdJakeIcemanV9, you should see a gdm login screen by now06:50
concept10interesting: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals06:51
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sleptI want to create a (some) universe,multiverse,restricted DVD-Image(s) which is apt-searchable06:52
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mdJakeslept, can be done06:53
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IcemanV9mdJake: all i see is a blue screen06:53
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andrehi06:53
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MahlHey im off to a friend of mine but before I go...Were gonna set up a network but hes running windows XP....How do I do that?06:54
mdJakeslept you should wget us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool06:54
IcemanV9mdJake: have tried f2, f3, f4 as well06:54
mdJakeslept, *all.deb and *i386.deb06:55
andrei've just got ubuntu installed, but i don't know how to get root access... in the faq they say that the root pass isn't set wihin the installation process.06:55
jackasshow do i install bchunk!?!?!?06:55
andrecan somebody help me out?06:55
mdJakeIcemanV9, u use gdm and gnome yeah?06:55
sleptmdJake, will apt-cdrom do the rest ?06:55
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mdJakeslept, not yet06:55
andreand even if the password was set in the installation, there was only one password i set and it's not that one..06:56
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MahlHey im off to a friend of mine but before I go...Were gonna set up a network but hes running windows XP....How do I do that? I just installed Samba...Now what do I do?06:56
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mdJakeslept, you'll need dists/hoary/multiverse/* etc06:56
dr_willisandre,  you use 'sudo' and the users password.06:56
sleptmdJake, but there should be a way to create an index06:56
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MahlNevermind06:56
Mahlfigured it out06:56
Mahl:P06:56
dr_willisandre,  you do NOT login as 'root'06:56
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mdJakeslept, dists/hoary/*/* has the needed Release,Packages,Packages.gz files06:57
andredoh... tnx dr_willis :-)06:57
darkauditgrr... trying to pin mozilla-firefox to *not* install the backports version...06:57
dr_willisandre,  this is like a #1 faq on the ubuntu guides/faq's :P06:57
mdJakeslept, very important to leave the dir structure as on the server06:57
andredr_willis: i know, i just wanted to get root access to modify my fstab06:57
mdJakeso a pool/*all.deb+*i386.deb06:57
andrethanks anyway06:57
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dr_willisandre,  thats easially done. :P or ya can just enable the root password. and it will work like all the other disrtos out there . "sudo passwd" :P06:58
andrebut i have to say that i'm linking ubuntu :-)06:58
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mdJakeand a dists/hoary/multiverse/ and dists/hoary/universe structure06:58
dead^^hi everyone. does anyone here know P2P programs like DC++ or oDC on Windows. Does Linux even have on that would support DC++ or oDC hublists?06:58
andredr_willis: i used to word with gentoo, there you set your pass within the installation...06:58
mdJakeslept, you'll need Packages and Release at least06:58
andreso there's no need for sudo, i didn't even have the sudo package installed :-P06:58
mdJakeslept, for each of them06:59
andrebut i've got no time for gentoo anymore...06:59
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andres/word/work btw ;D06:59
dr_willisandre,  sudo has other uses i imagine.06:59
mdJakeslept then you can add that CD structured like I said06:59
mdJakeslept, clear?06:59
andreyeah dr_willis :-)06:59
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dead^^hi everyone. does anyone here know P2P programs to Linux, like DC++ or oDC on Windows. Does Linux even have one that would support DC++ or oDC hublists?06:59
mdJakeIcemanV9, what is your system setup?06:59
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mdJakeIcemanV9, two computers?07:00
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sylttysudo -s when u want to do something as a root and then exit when u are done07:00
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mdJakeIcemanV9, one must act like a "server"07:00
mdJakeIcemanV9, other as a "client"07:00
xiaogilhi07:00
IcemanV9mdJake: it works - i have to modify the firewall to allow it. very slow box :)07:00
sleptmdJake, thanks i'll have a try07:00
xiaogilare there text recognition from images programs on Linux ?07:01
mdJakeslept, you should tell me how to do it if you'd like07:01
dr_willisxiaogil,  ive seen some mentioned.  but never used any.07:01
mdJakeslept, just to be sure u understand before starting the huge download07:01
IcemanV9mdJake: it went fullscreen, so i couldn't see anything on my box except remote X07:01
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mdJakeIcemanV9, ctrl-alt-f707:01
dr_willisxiaogil,  check freshmeat.net  - i seem to recall one called gnome-ocr or similer.07:01
IcemanV9mdJake: thanks for the detail07:02
mdJakeIcemanV9, your own session07:02
mdJakeIcemanV9, ctrl-alt-f8 the remote session07:02
dr_willisxiaogil,  apt-cache search ocr07:02
IcemanV9mdJake: is it possible to make it into a windowed mode?07:02
mdJakeIcemanV9, nope it's the way of X07:02
IcemanV9mdJake: ah ok. f7 - own session & f8 for remote07:03
mdJakeIcemanV9, the "server" should be a powerful machine07:03
sylttyanyone willing to test out my video stream application on http://lintelkku.sourceforge.net ?07:03
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mdJakeIcemanV9, the "client" can be a 486DX!07:03
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xiaogildr_willis: i found gocr07:03
mdJakeIcemanV9, check out tldp.org for details07:04
IcemanV9mdJake: haha. i know. it should be another way around, but the fast box is my primary one07:04
jdimscould someone take a look at this and maybe offer some advice? http://phpfi.com/6136107:04
sleptmdJake, wget things, get the .gz files  - have a look for the size and modify .gz files (fit the size ), burn  , apt-cdrom07:04
IcemanV9mdJake: other is just for experiment07:04
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mdJakeIcemanV9, tldp.org has a HOWTO (called X-terminal or sg)07:04
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xinudllo people , i looking for a hardware compatibility list (mb vc ...) for ubuntu (debian)07:05
mdJakeIcemanV9, I used "" because in X "server" is the client "client" is the server - very confusing at first07:05
patrickxb/quit07:05
mdJakeslept, wget -r things (all.deb and i386.deb are enough) from archive/pool07:06
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agentwho was it that needed a deb creating how-to?07:06
mdJakeslept, wget -r things from archive/dists07:06
mdJakeslept, wait, you'd like DVDs yeah?07:06
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mdJakeslept then the 1st step is right07:06
nullkillhas anyone messed with getting gmailfs to work on ubuntu?07:07
mdJakeslept, but you should manually generate Packages.gz from the actual packages07:07
ih8evilHey, does anybody know how to set a different background image for each of the four workspaces?07:07
nullkillits really easy on kde07:07
Jormundgandih8evil: not for GNOME. I know KDE does it.07:07
sleptmdJake, how do I create Packages.gz07:07
IcemanV9mdJake: cool. something new to learn today. :)07:08
mdJakeslept, theres a command 1sec plz07:08
mdJakedpkg-scanpackages07:08
mdJakeslept, problem is though07:09
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mdJakeus.archive.ubuntu.com stores all packages in pool/07:09
mdJakeunder a/ b/ c/ etc07:10
mdJakego have a look to get the idea07:10
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Andrilhello all07:10
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Andrilanyone get Opera 8 installed? please help07:10
mdJakeslept, I mean all - for Hoary, Breezy? Warty07:11
mdJakeslept, they are mixed07:11
sleptmdJake, that sounds good so I can create customized cds only containing things I realy need , if I can do so I only have to solve dependencies07:11
sylttyAndril: I have opera 8 installed. what is the problem ?07:11
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Andrilsyltty, i am a semi-noob07:11
mdJakeslept, but you have to figure out07:11
Andrilsyltty, can you help me install?07:11
mdJakeslept, take an example:07:12
sylttyAndril:ok07:12
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Andrilsyltty, thanks - lead the way :)07:12
sylttyAndril:If I remember correctly i just downloaded the debian sid package and installed it07:12
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Andrilsyltty, they added a Ubuntu file also07:13
mdJakeslept,  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/07:13
cartHi ppl, kubuntu use the same deb repository from ubuntu, or is a diferent one?07:13
sylttyAndril: oh. I'll check that out07:13
Riddellcart: same one07:13
mdJakeslept, you see varios packages for firefox there07:13
mdJakeslept, one is for Warty, other is for Hoary and there's one for Breezy07:14
sleptmdJake,  can apt-get things07:14
Andrilsyltty, i have opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb07:14
sylttyAndril: what was the problem with installing it ?07:14
mdJakeslept, apt will know from the dists/../Packages files which package belongs to which release07:14
cartRiddell: :(, im hopping that kubuntu is in a diferent repository and have a package for knoda. Ubuntu doesn't have07:15
mdJakeslept, this means you'll have to select the appropriate packages by hand from pool/07:15
Andrilsyltty, should I get the Debian/static or the plain Debian pack?07:15
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Andrilsyltty, I am a noob not good at installing yet - sorry07:16
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sylttyAndril: I am just now trying to install the ubuntu package of opera. wait a sec07:16
sleptmdJake, I want to create cds for a friend of mine maybe I can  just filter out the packages contained in main from /var/cache/apt/archives/07:16
Andrilsyltty, cool07:16
mdJakeslept, I see - a friend with no/slow internet07:17
Riddellcart: add it to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuSuggestedPackages07:17
Riddelland I'll try and find someone to make packages07:17
sylttyAndril: open terminal and write sudo dpkg -i  opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb07:17
sylttythat should do it07:17
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jdimscould someone take a look at this and maybe offer some advice? http://phpfi.com/6136107:18
Andrilsyltty, ok07:18
sleptmdJake, or can he just copy all packages to his  system and dselect update07:19
cartRiddell: Ok, thanks! :P07:19
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Andrilsyltty, done it07:19
mdJakeslept, or dpkg -i *.deb07:20
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ih8evilwhat's the command to extract?07:20
mdJakeslept, that way you needn't have Packages07:20
mdJakeslept, but watch out for dependecies07:20
sylttyAndril: try to launch it by typing opera in terminal07:20
mdJakemaybe slept, too complicated for a human being :)07:20
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sleptmdJake, thats the reason why i wanted to update07:21
mdJakeslept, I once mirrored the whole Debian repository07:21
Dethreadahahaha, das topic ist ja geil07:21
Dethreaderm, wrong channel07:22
mdJakeslept, this is why I know something about it07:22
Andrilsyltty, it worked but an error was displayed about java being disabled07:22
mdJakeslept, (i didn't have net connection by that time)07:22
mdJakeslept, but I didn't use DVDs07:22
mdJakeslept, I used a 20GB mobil rack HDD07:22
sleptmdJake, for debian I used the jigdo images07:22
mdJakeslept, the whole Debian repo (woody/sarge/sid) was 18 GB07:23
mdJakeslept, without source packages of course07:23
sleptmdJake, if you just need one arch and no source you can go with 4 dvds07:23
agentcan someone tell me of a good way to test created deb files... just to make sure nothing breaks if the deb file is bad?07:23
sleptor 2 I don't remember07:24
mdJakeslept, I don't know jigdo07:24
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Andrilsyltty, do you have a icon in the menu?07:25
ih8evilHow do I install libqt3c102-mt, because I'm getting an error message: "opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however:07:25
ih8evil  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed."07:25
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Dogtixevening, bit of a noob question about bridges - is there a stdandard config file for bridge setup, or does linux need an init script with brctl commands?07:25
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capashenhi, does an french channel exist in this server please ?07:25
goldfishcapashen: think so07:26
goldfishubuntu-fr maybe07:26
mdJakeIcemanV9, why you abadonned BSD?07:26
JairunCalothhow hard is wine to set up and configure for a n00b?07:26
capashenok thx i didn't see that we are on freenode07:26
sleptmdJake, its nice to use, I remember they have 2 dvd images you can download ( ubuntu has jigdo aswell ), and you get lot's of things07:27
agentcapashen, you can always use the /list command to list all channels07:27
capashenok thx ( i did /msg chanserv list but it didn't work.)07:28
ih8evilHow do I install libqt3c102-mt, because I'm getting an error message: "opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however: Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed."07:28
sylttyAndril: I have the same java error. don't know yet how to fix it. also adding to the menu is mystery for me. better ask advice from someone more guru :D07:28
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Andrilsyltty, thanks alot - you helped me this far - now all I need is a working serial - thanks again07:29
UnreA|LHello, i have two OS: XP and Ubuntu, and i want reinstall XP, if I install XP, my grub was remove is true ?07:29
sylttyAndril: no problem07:29
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agentwhat is a good way to test created deb files... just to make sure nothing breaks if the deb file is bad?07:30
IcemanV9mdJake: i don't stop using bsd .. i just want to find something that i can install and use it immediately like my parents' box and friends' boxes07:30
agentUnfrgiven, yes, this is true.... XP is horrible like that...07:30
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K_Dallasi cannot imagine what i am reading on ubuntu-fr ;) are you sure it is about linux? ;)07:30
rykelhi all!!07:31
goldfishLOL07:31
IcemanV9mdJake: so they can enjoy it ... hopefully, i can convince them not to use ms anymore07:31
cartUnreA|L: Yeap, XP installation remove grub from MBR07:31
agentUnreA|L, , yes, this is true.... XP is horrible like that...07:31
rykeli need some serious help with my Ubuntu...07:31
UnreA|L:(07:31
Riddellcart: knoda is in breezy07:31
UnreA|LHow grub install for new ?07:31
goldfishrykel: what's up?07:31
IcemanV9mdJake: they always call me for help on their pc problems :)07:31
rykelgoldfish:07:31
ih8evilHow do I install libqt3c102-mt, because I'm getting an error message: "opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however: Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed."07:31
agentUnreA|L, there may be a way to install grub after XP kills it07:31
agentUnfrgiven, let me find you a tutorial07:32
JairunCalothunreA|L I saw an artical on the wikipages for ubuntu that talks about that07:32
rykelI had a Ubuntu Warty machine, which I tried to upgrade to Hoary.07:32
agentUnreA|L,  let me find you a tutorial07:32
UnreA|LYes i now when i reinstall XP, i will install GRUB for new07:32
UnreA|LHow ?07:32
agent^^07:32
UnreA|Lagent ok07:32
UnreA|L;)07:32
rykelWhat I did was change all "warty" references in Synaptic to "hoary" and then did a Smart Upgrade.    Suddenly, I received a "No Signal" for my CRT monitor.    After I hard rebooted, the mouse did not work.    Next, after a second hard reboot, the whole PC hangs at the Hotplug system. There was an earlier error message about "Buffer I/O Error at hdc...", but I do not think that is a big problem as the bootup continued.    Finally, after a thi07:33
rykelrd hard reboot, the PC will not even start up, and the PC bell will beep frequently. (sounds like a hard disk crash to me!)07:33
goldfishugh07:33
goldfishnot nice :/07:33
rykelCould you please advise me:07:33
rykel1. What is the officially correct way to upgrade Warty to Hoary?07:33
rykel2. What can I do to resurrect my corrupted system now without resorting to format-and-reinstall?07:33
rykelgoldfish: thanks07:34
goldfishchange all instances of warty to hoary in sources.list07:34
IcemanV9mdJake: also, bsd are best known for servers, not desktop07:34
goldfishand do a apt-get update && apt-get distro-upgrade07:34
goldfishor distupgrade07:34
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dataw0lf|wdist-upgrade07:34
goldfishSomeone correct me there, i think that's the wrong name.07:34
goldfishthanks07:34
dataw0lf|windeed.07:34
goldfishAnd I have no idea about #2 I'm afraid rykel, no experience with anything like that I'm afraid :/07:35
agentUnreA|L, also, first thing you should do is backup your grub config file on a disk or print it out (its small) so you can recreate it... i know that you will need to boot into a livecd to fix your boot menu...07:35
ih8evilDoes anyone know what I type in the terminal to install libqt3c102-mt?07:35
rykelyes, so ok, i did the right thing... since i changed all warty to hoary and then a Smart Upgrade (dist-upgrade)...07:35
dataw0lf|wrykel: if you have sensitive stuff on it, use a live cd to extract whatever relevant portions on the filesystem you need.07:36
cartRiddell: Sorry for my ignorance, but what is breezy?07:36
dataw0lf|wUbuntu 5.1007:36
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rykeldata: ok, thanks... i presume a fresh install is the best option?07:36
osityanyone setup sw raid 1 on hoary?07:36
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cartdataw0lf: Oh, ok! Thanks07:36
UnreA|LHow i can do grub backup07:36
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mdJakeIcemanV9, you're the man - sorry I thought you abadonned BSD :)))07:36
mdJakeIcemanV9, you will be here tomorrow I hope07:37
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UnreA|Land how after XP install, with LIVECD i can reset GRUB ?07:37
JairunCalothUnreA|L I found a tutorial, but it requires that you have a live cd07:37
UnreA|Li have live cd07:37
UnreA|L;)07:38
JairunCalothhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows07:38
dr_willisIve often booted with a live cd. chrooted over to the installed linux system and reran the grub installer proggy.07:38
dr_willisits not hard. :P just a few details to keep an eye on07:38
UnreA|LHow it will do07:39
UnreA|Lwith commands07:39
UnreA|Lcan you say to me ?07:39
dr_williswell id say read that url that JairunCaloth  posted.07:39
BoD_SWATwhen I want to use 2 monitors (not cloning) do I need xinerama? (mandatory?)07:40
cartAny chance to use breezy repository only to install knoda and it's kde deps will damage my Hoary? (My current install don't have kde)07:40
dr_willisit covers the steps very well.07:40
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da_bon_bonhey, can someone explain me what the practical use of user mode linux can be ? the homepage doesnt explain much :)07:40
dr_willisBoD_SWAT,  I think if you are useing nvidia cards - you dont have to use xinerama. but i eneded up useing it anyway07:40
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dataw0lf|wda_bon_bon: running kernels in userspace.07:40
dr_willisda_bon_bon,  to test kernels07:40
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JairunCalothI've found that ubuntu wiki page to be infinatly helpful so far07:40
IcemanV9mdJake: cannot promise, but i'll try :)07:41
dataw0lf|wda_bon_bon: so you could have 10 users, each with their own kernel, running on one server.07:41
dataw0lf|wSo, they have total control over their kernel in userspace.07:41
BoD_SWATdr_willis, I'm @ ATI, but thnx :D (I only asked because it's "alpha" software07:41
rykelbtw, do you all love AUTOPACKAGE?07:41
dataw0lf|wie, they can shutdown, install packages, etc, total control.07:41
dataw0lf|wcheck out linode.com for an applicable example.07:41
Flavhunh - anyone know why apache2 needs lynx?07:41
Riddellcart: I'm wrong, seems like breezy doesn't have it, there was a problem compiling it, I'll look into it07:41
da_bon_bondataw0lf|w: u use it ?07:41
mdJakebye all07:42
BoD_SWATI currently have 2 monitors connected (cloning). I want to view movies on my primary, it only shows movies on my secondary monitor. Help?07:42
dataw0lf|wda_bon_bon: I've played with it a bit.07:42
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dataw0lf|wFlav: Short answer? because of apache2ctl.07:42
cartRiddell: Ok then, thanks anyway, maybe sometime i get some courage to install devel packages and made some custom packages for me! :P07:42
Flavdataw0lf|w: ah, gotcha - thanks :)07:42
dr_willisBoD_SWAT,  i reran that X config tool and added a 2nd monitor. and it worked decentlyu well.  BACKUP your working X config files first however07:43
da_bon_bonRiddell: on homepge, u mention -- Kubuntu Pure KGX *-- what is KGX ?07:43
Riddellda_bon_bon: KDE/GNU/Unix07:43
BoD_SWATdr_willis, tried re-running the xconfig tool... It didn't help07:43
dataw0lf|wda_bon_bon: several of my friends have accounts on Linode, and I convinced caker (the owner) to add Ubuntu as an option.07:43
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dr_willisBoD_SWAT,  or course useing it with the accelerated 3d drivers for the ati cards may be an issue07:44
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dataw0lf|wHe's switching to Xen, though.07:44
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dataw0lf|wWhich apparently has much, much, much better performance over UML.07:44
BoD_SWATdr_willis, I'm using the ati drivers. My config file -->     http://pastebin.com/28275807:44
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BoD_SWATdr_willis, would Xinerama 'fix' that issue? :P07:45
dr_willisBoD_SWAT,   you may want to go check out the ubuntu wiki's   - odds are someone has done the exact same thing and will have a working sample07:45
BoD_SWATdr_willis, will do that. Thanks :)07:46
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rykeli am using autopackages if possible, because it seems more logical and clean than waiting for devs to update the apt-get repositories...07:47
osityhas anyone setup software raid 1 on hoary?07:47
concept10what is the developemnt channel for ubuntu?07:47
BoD_SWATrykel, I would always use apt-get07:48
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BoD_SWATrykel, it's easier and it works :D07:48
ramaiHi, does anybody know how to add .srt files to Xine?07:49
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(BoD_SWAT/#ubuntu) ramai, do you mean that that extension should always be opened by Xine?07:50
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osityso no one does raid in here today?07:50
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thenukeramai: please do use google before asking irc http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20703.html07:50
rykelbod: yeah... but we need both, apt-get and autopackages... when the 2 projects are integrated, autopackages will become the equivalent of DEBs and RPMs... one autopackage = DEB, Fedora Core RPM, Mandriva RPM, SuSE RPM and all the other associated formats...07:50
ramaiNo its just I got a movie with a .srt file with it and I want to add that subtitel07:50
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rykelmeantime, do not apt-get install what you can install with autopackage07:51
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BoD_SWATnope, sorry07:51
thenukeramai: did you read that what I did point at you?07:51
dataw0lf|wosity: Not on Ubuntu.07:51
JairunCalothwhat does the sources.list file do?07:51
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thenukeJairunCaloth: it tells apt-get where to look packages for07:52
rykeleg. GIMP autopackage = version 2.2.6, while the apt-get is 2.2.4.   Firefox autopackage = 1.0.3, while apt-get only has 1.0.3 a few hours ago...07:52
JairunCalothah07:52
rykelok, see ya guys and bye!!07:52
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ramaithenuke => thanks07:52
thenukeJairunCaloth: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories you might want to have a look for this07:52
thenukeramai: hope it works for you too07:53
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eob84how do I force install a deb file07:54
WeirdAlLo07:54
thenukeeob84: dpkg --help07:54
eob84yea07:54
Jormundgandrykel: apt-get depends where you tell it to look for packages. Firefox 1.0.3 has been on backports for ages.07:54
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eob84I did what it said there07:54
eob84it didin't work07:54
WeirdAlGot a friend asking why x-chat isn't connecting. He's using mirc on Windows at the moment.07:54
WeirdAlSame PC, same network.07:54
thenukeeob84: then we might want to know more about the problem07:54
eob84ok07:54
thenukeif you tried to force it, and it does not work, you should not ask how to force it :)07:55
zenlunaticHow can your test you bandwidth under ubuntu?07:55
eob84thenuke, I am trying to set ununtu up for bootsplash and I need to install the bootsplash backage and the newlinux theme07:55
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thenukezenlunatic: I think it is most convenient to try to download something big from site near you07:55
eob84but they depend on eachother to install07:55
eob84thenuke, so I have no idea what to do07:56
WeirdAlAny clues? Something to check that I've overlooked? He's got normal internet but no IRC07:56
thenukezenlunatic: maybe a local university of yours has mirror for some linux distros for example?07:56
WeirdAlHe's behind a router.07:56
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eob84oh07:56
JormundgandOpen port 6667-7000.07:56
eob84is he07:56
Jormundgandports*07:56
eob84yea07:56
JairunCalothI never knew that I needed tabbed browsing so badly until I had it, lol07:56
JairunCalothnow I can't live with out it07:57
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dr_willisheee07:57
medicationi hear that Jairun07:57
eob84what is the syntax to force a program to install07:57
JairunCalothI start reading one thing, and to understand that, I have to hop over somewhere else, which takes me somewhere else. I must have 8 tabs open right now, and I'm trying to work backwards through them07:57
eob84I tried dpkg -i --force07:58
eob84if it isn't the apt database07:58
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eob84I can't seem to install it if it needs dep.07:58
shinucan i use * or ? with wget?07:58
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BoD_SWAThow secure is Ubuntu by default? And how can I really upgrade it? (I already got firestarter)07:59
agentwhen using dh_make, should one run ./configure first if it is needed or will dh_make do that?07:59
eob84as secure as all unix distros07:59
eob84the more apps you have the more you compromise your security07:59
eob84you can upgrade using apt08:00
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BoD_SWAThmm.... OK08:00
BoD_SWATHow can I change the access rights to a program? (so that also users can run it?)08:00
goldfishchmod08:00
eob84you can put it in a group08:00
BoD_SWATand then the /sbin/ dir correct?08:00
HappyFooleob84: i'm not a dpkg guru, but what happens if you do 'dpkg -i <deb1> <deb2>' ?08:00
FackamatoIs it safe to resize reiserfs?08:00
BoD_SWATresize larger or smaller?08:00
HappyFooleob84: otherwise take a look at 'dpkg --force-help'  -- i think dpkg --force-all might be the hammer you're looking for08:01
eob84HappyFool, that worked perfect08:01
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HappyFoolwhich, the first?08:01
eob84HappyFool, I have no clue why I didn't think of it08:01
eob84HappyFool, yea08:02
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HappyFoolcool :-)08:02
FackamatoBoD_SWAT: smaller08:02
eob84HappyFool, thanx I was actually working a while on this08:02
eob84HappyFool, the solution is sooo lame...08:02
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HappyFoolguess was based on what dear old rpm does08:02
mainerhappyfool: dpkg -i *.deb will install all .deb's in a directory08:03
eob84I had others in there08:03
WeirdAlMy question: I've got loads of backgrounds in my background list and I want to get rid of them all at once.08:03
eob84that I didn't want installed just yer08:03
eob84ha08:03
eob84well if you really want to08:03
eob84sudo user08:03
WeirdAlThe computer's too slow to make it practical doing them one by one.08:03
eob84go to /usr/share/wallpaper08:04
BoD_SWATeob84, goldfish, dr_willis  I thank you all.08:04
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WeirdAlOh08:04
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goldfishnp08:04
eob84and type rm *08:04
WeirdAldir doesn't exist.08:04
eob84but I don't think those images are slowing you down08:04
eob84what?08:04
WeirdAlThey're not.08:04
WeirdAlBut the list is cluttered and I don't use them all.08:04
WeirdAlAnd it's impossible to click on one and delete it within five seconds.08:05
eob84/usr/share/wallpapers does now exist?08:05
WeirdAlThat's what it says.08:05
eob84not*08:05
eob84are you using hoary?08:05
WeirdAlyep08:05
WeirdAlbash: cd: /usr/share/wallpaper: No such file or directory08:05
eob84wallpaper(s)08:05
WeirdAlah08:06
eob84use tab complete08:06
WeirdAl^_^08:06
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eob84sorry about that08:06
WeirdAlThere's only w3m08:06
eob84that is where I have all mine08:06
WeirdAlWell the actual *images* are in ~/wallpaper08:07
WeirdAlBut I don't want to get rid of the actual files.08:07
WeirdAlI just want to empty the list so when I load my background chooser there's nothing in there.08:07
eob84oh... you just want them off the list?08:07
eob84I don't know about that08:07
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goldfishmove them to a different folder?08:07
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brosiohelp08:07
eob84it looks in that directory for the list08:07
WeirdAloh08:07
JairunCalothwhat is the gpg command?08:07
brosiothis source kernel linux-source-2.6.1008:07
eob84so back them up to like bg.tar.gz08:08
brosiois the same that i'm using  2.6.10-5-amd64-generic ?08:08
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thenukeJairunCaloth: try, whatis gpg08:08
JairunCalothoh cool, thanks08:08
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HappyFoolbrosio: looks like it. Do you need to compile the kernel?08:10
brosioi need header and source kernel that i'm using08:10
rottishow to change fluxbox's background/wallapaper?08:11
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goldfishrottis: ask in #fluxbox maybe ?08:11
goldfishi can't remember how to myself :/08:11
rottis:/08:11
goldfishrottis: it's in the config file or something08:12
goldfishgoogle ?08:12
HappyFoolbrosio: are you sure you don't just need "linux-headers-<something>" (probably "linux-headers-amd64-generic" ?)08:12
Fator_Deerottis: right click on desktop -> settings -> desktop settings08:12
Fator_Deeoh, sorry08:12
rottishmh08:12
Fator_DeeI read xfce instead of fluxbox >_<08:13
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mirakwhat module do you use for your webcams ?08:14
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ivoksthere... HOWTO for rt2500 fixed08:15
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JairunCalothI've played with linux a few times before, but I have never been able to get this much stuff up and running. This is a great distro with an awsome community to help out us complete n00bs.08:18
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sriJairunCaloth: which distro?08:21
lorenKubuntu/Ubuntu08:21
lorenoh whoops nvm08:21
sriah,okay.08:21
srigood!08:21
sriI'm assuming you're running GNOME then.08:21
JairunCalothyes08:21
sriJairunCaloth: are you a recent convert to Ubuntu/GNOME?08:22
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JairunCalothThe past few times I've tried a linux distro I used redhat 6ish... I think. that was a while ago, then redhat 908:22
sriah, okay.08:22
JormundgandI tried Kubuntu, so I'm pretty well qualified to have an opinion on GNOME vs KDE. In my opinion GNOME wins superbly over KDE on intuitiveness and customisability, but KDE has one or two odd nifty things which push it forward, like the consistent naming strategy. (GNOME doesn't have the same effect as using the K Desktop Environment with Koffice, Konqueror, Konversation and Kopete.)08:22
JairunCalothI completly trashed my HDD trying to install redhat 608:22
JairunCalothhad to reformat08:23
sriJormundgand: what do you mean by consistent naming strategy? everything begins iwth 'K'?08:23
JormundgandYes.08:23
sriJairunCaloth: ugh.08:23
JormundgandYou don't get that with GNOME.08:23
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JairunCalothyea, it was ugly, and I was a n00b08:23
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sriJormundgand: it's not very interesting to have thing snamed with 'K'. or 'G'.  My personal opinion is to have interesting names08:24
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lorensri: yeah i wish they'd have new names like "Excel" or "Camino"08:24
JairunCalothI managed to install redhat 9 without many problems, but I was pretty much lost as what to do with it, and it just sat there rotting on my HDD while I kept using windows08:24
srihaving a namespace for applications to identify them as a desktop app seems..well, constraining.08:24
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Andrilhello all08:25
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loreni hate RH908:25
lorenhi08:25
sriloren: there was a couple interesting ones in gnomefiles I liked..I couldn't remember what it was08:25
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HoxzerHi08:25
HoxzerSomebody here has installed BTDC  _08:25
Hoxzer?08:25
lorensri: yeah i know what you mean, like Konversation isn't a bad name08:25
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JairunCalothI was using KDE then, and that was a while ago, but I'm really likeing gnome08:25
Andrilsyltty, you there?08:25
HappyFoolwhat's BTDC ?08:25
HoxzerDC client08:25
lorenJairunCaloth: strange i was the opposite lol, i liked Gnome and then KDE XD08:26
sriJairunCaloth: I've never used KDE, but I found that options tend to confuse newbies...but it's good to have both desktops around so nobody has to compromise :)08:26
JairunCalothlol08:26
JairunCalothI havn't used either in forever08:26
JairunCalothI used to have them both installed though on my redhat distros08:26
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lorensri: there ya go lol, i picked up  KDE in a second, but it was only because it was friendly to use and nice looking08:26
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rj_ is there a way to completely remove gnome and all it's depends?08:27
rj_i'am running a headless server -- and i didnt do a "custom" install so all the default packages were installed -- alot of which i don't need08:27
Hoxzerwhen Im trying to do the install it says: Configure: error: C++ preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check08:27
sriloren: note that for someoen non-technical all those options are meaningless because most people will choose the default.08:27
Hoxzerwhat I can do ?08:27
mirakwhat package is video for linux ?08:27
sriand never mind that if you're a support person it'll be painful because there is a lot of stuff to walk people through.08:27
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makavelidoes anybody know of a program that will take your current desktop and put it into 3d like all of your icons08:28
HappyFoolHoxzer: does the software require a particular cpp version?08:28
lorensri: true, i wish that gnome just had different icons i guess lol, then i personally wouldn't mind using it, they're so brown and ugly, and i bet this has been discussed MANY MANY times08:28
HoxzerHappy: dunno08:28
sriloren: can't you use the kde icons that were ported to gnome?08:28
JairunCalothsri: hehe, in a couple of months you are all going to run when you see me comming. I'm sure I'm going to have many questions.08:28
srikde makes good icons08:28
loren,alave;o" i forgot the name but i think it might have something to do with SuperKaramba, i'm probably wronge though08:28
HappyFoolHoxzer: take a look in README/INSTALL and/or similarly named files to check08:28
osityhow do i see my parititions?08:29
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lorensri: did they do that? hmmh08:29
makaveli?08:29
m4xis there a way to install ubuntu w/o a CDROM drive?08:29
sriJairunCaloth: well, hopefully if we did our job right you won't have a lot of questions and everything should be intuitive.  If it isn't thats good to know08:29
sriloren: yeah, go to www.gnome-look.org08:29
HappyFoolHoxzer: I know of one app requiring cpp 3.4, and hoary comes with cpp 3.3. That *might* be the problem, though I think it's unlikely08:29
sriloren: which is the same machine as kde-look.org I believe.08:29
lorensri: i know the recent addition of http://gnome-look.org is fanominally both needed and an awsome idea, i think it's gonna boost em up a bit, but i might pick up gnome3 when it comes out with new features08:29
lorensri: yeah i think so08:29
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srignome3 is probably years away :)08:30
HoxzerHappy: well they didt said anything about it08:30
HappyFoolHoxzer: you have done "sudo apt-get install build-essential", right ?08:30
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Hoxzerno08:30
lorensri: unfortunatly08:30
makavelidoes anybody know of a program that will take ur desktop 3d08:30
makaveli?08:30
JormundgandThe problem with many icon themes is that they're so incomplete.08:30
HappyFoolHoxzer: try that first08:30
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JairunCalothser: I've found tons and tons of help in the wiki files, and the irc chan helps direct me to little things I didn't realize or just looked over08:30
lorenmakaveli: you mean whilist switching desktops from one to another or uhm, what do you mean?08:31
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JairunCalothlol ser=sri08:31
srimakaveli: I think there is a 3dwm or osmething like that in ubuntu08:31
m4xmakaveli, http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/details.xml08:31
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m4xthat what u mean?08:32
makaveliloren: i mean like not switching desktops because i already tried 3ddesktop and i don't like that i need something that will like take all my icons and put them 3d in the middle of my screen08:32
sriI guess we don't know what you mean by '3d'.08:32
srithe icons are 3 dimensional?08:32
lorenmakaveli: oh sorry then, i can't help you there, it would be pretty cool to see though, please post a link if you find out ;)08:32
Jormundgandhttp://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/342/ <-- this takes me back. RedHat Linux 4.2.08:32
m4xhttp://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/details.xml08:32
m4xcheck out that link for a 3d desktop08:32
lorenmakaveli: i do know that you can stack 2d icons on top of eachother and scroll though to change icons08:33
makavelihow would you do that08:33
makavelialso how do you switch to 3ddesktop without running the application08:34
makavelibecause everytime i want to switch workplace i have to go run 3ddesktop and that's to tideous08:34
JairunCalothwhoh, virtual stickies!!08:34
BigJGlol08:34
gibeauhas anyone got arla/openafs to work on the 2.6 kernel?08:35
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zxcDoes anyone know how to use the "Rm" command to remove a dir08:37
HappyFoolhrm. wiki changed it's look and feel?08:37
m4xzxc, rm -r08:37
franklin50zxc: rmdir is the command you want08:37
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zxcrmdir: `realplayer': Permission denied, franklin50- how do I make it so I can delete this?08:38
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Badness45helloo08:38
JairunCalothwhat is the perfered multimedia player for most?08:38
Jormundgandrhythmbox.08:38
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Jormundgandzxc: sudo apt-get remove realplayer08:39
franklin50zxc: sudo rm -r08:39
m4xzxc, su -08:39
sabdflhey all, how's it going?08:39
Badness45what's up guys i am trying to install my wireless network card on my laptop i need help08:39
m4xis there a way to install ubuntu w/o a CDROM drive?08:39
franklin50ooh, good question m4x08:39
zxcm4x, I think there's a way in the howto forums- ftp or something08:39
JormundgandBadness45: You'll need to A) ask a question and B) be more specific about your problem.08:40
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mcsfhey all08:40
Badness45i have a broadcom network adapter and when i installed warty it's not reconized08:40
JormundgandInstall Hoary.08:41
tritiumwillis, ping08:41
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JairunCaloththis unofficia ubuntu guide is king08:41
Badness45hoary didn't work the graphics card was not compatiable08:41
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pablo928 Badness45,which graphics card?08:42
mcsfi trying the latest Ubuntu LiveCD, and i think it doesn't like my ATI Radeon 9200, because the screen turns blank after loading everything and entering the x server08:42
mcsfi tried*08:42
Badness45i used somthing call ndiswrapper and they have a driver realease for the 64 bit laptops and still don't work08:42
tritiumHi sabdfl.  How are you?08:42
Badness45i have nvida08:43
aardvark?08:43
mcsfdo you know what can cause this, and how do i solve it?08:43
pablo928mcsf:i'm on hoary right now using a radeon 9200 with a default install08:43
JormundgandAnyone know how to make the background of the user list transparent in Xchat?08:43
Badness45by the way i am new with this os08:43
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mcsfpablo928 : and did it work with the LiveCD? it's just that i'm quite a Linux newbie and don't want to get into complicated stuff08:44
xukunanbody know what this error means? I get it after I try to run nxclient "Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion08:44
xukunWarning: Unable to load any usable fontset"08:44
aardvarkanyone know how to get an apt-get dist_uprgade to work when its saying there are packages being held back ??? I am trying to upgrade from warty to hoary08:44
aardvarkthe ratbag is jivving me08:45
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billytwowillywhen did oracle 8i come out?08:45
pablo928mcsf, never tried the hoary live cd but, yes, it worked with the warty live cd08:45
aardvarkapt-get dist-upgrade anyone ????????????????????????08:46
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goldfishHi guys, I'm having some trouble, when i try to ssh to my laptop from my desktop, i get "remote host identification has changed" someone may be eavesdropping, and also i cannot ssh out from my laptop.08:46
Jormundgandaardvark: If anyone can help they will. Don't start getting huffy because nobody can help.08:46
mcsfpablo928: thanks08:46
tritiumaardvark, is it "upgrade" or "dist-upgrade" that is holding packages back?08:46
mcsfpablo928, so i guess the problem maybe isn't the GFX card?08:47
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goldfishanyone know what I can do... ?08:47
aardvarkJormundgand: pennace for my sins08:47
aardvarktritium: dist-upgrade08:47
sabdfltritium: well thanks. recovered from sydney and thrilled with the state of the breezy goal specs from UDU08:47
HappyFoolgoldfish: try editing / erasing .ssh/known_hosts08:47
Badness45has anyone installed the broadcom wireless driver on there laptop08:47
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pablo928mcsf, probably not08:47
tritiumsabdfl, super :)08:47
goldfishHappyFool: did that, get the same problem :/08:47
tritiumaardvark, which packages?08:47
sabdflcheeeerio08:47
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HappyFoolerr08:47
aardvarkgees a bunch08:47
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aardvarkmostly gnome08:47
Jormundgandhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=167853#post167853 - Eeeeee.08:47
aardvarkand xfree08:47
tritiumaardvark, please query me and paste the output08:48
mcsfpablo928, do you know of any hardware that is known to cause such problems with x server?08:48
aardvarktritium: the box in question is at home and I am at work....using my Powerbook08:48
goldfishHappyFool: do u think maybe someone is sniffing my network or something?08:49
tritiumaardvark, okay.  I'm somewhat surprised, frankly.  upgrade might hold the packages back, but I would expect dist-upgrade not to.08:49
HappyFoolgoldfish: do you have secrets worth stealing?08:49
goldfishnope08:49
aardvarktritium: is there anyway to get more verbose info on which dependancies are holding me back08:49
HappyFoolgoldfish: unlikely ;)08:49
goldfishHappyFool: but i cant ssh in or out to it :/08:49
Badness45i have a broadcom network adapter and when i installed warty it's not reconized08:50
tritiumaardvark, you can use the "-u" switch08:50
HappyFoolyou can ssh to other hosts from your laptop/08:50
aardvarktritium: my warty box here dist-upgraded to hoary just fine08:50
aardvarktritium: ok I'll try it tonite thanx08:50
jackasswhich player can play divx, xvid mpg movies for ubuntu????08:50
aardvarkjackass: mplayer is good 4 that08:50
goldfishHappyFool: nope08:50
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goldfishHappyFool: can't ssh at all08:51
jackasswhere can i find?08:51
tritiumaardvark, you can also use the -s switch.  (-u = --show-upgrade, -s = --simulate)08:51
makavelihey i have a problem with my sound08:51
makavelii don't know how to diagnose or anything08:51
mirak_I have this error when I run xawtv, I don't know how to resolve it :08:51
mirak_WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual08:51
mirak_         configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>")08:51
tritiumaardvark, -u = --show-upgraded, that is ;)08:51
aardvarktritium: cool i should have RTFM'd08:51
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tritiumno problem08:51
HappyFoolgoldfish: maybe ssh -v, or -vv, or -vvv will help you diagnose the problem... ?08:51
goldfishHappyFool: will try thanks08:52
mainergoldfish: dwnld install and run rootkithuntrer     http://rootkit.nl08:52
mainerlinchtime08:52
xukunWarning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion08:52
xukunWarning: Unable to load any usable fontset08:52
HappyFoolgoldfish: also, ssh is fiddly about permissions on  files in .ssh (any maybe on .ssh as well)08:52
makaveliwhen i try to play an mp3 with xmms it says this: Please check that" your soundcard is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected and no other program is blocking the soundcard08:52
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xukunwhich fonts I,m I missing?08:52
zenlunaticHow can I test my bandwidth under ubuntu?08:52
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Badness45how can i install the network adapter for my laptop08:53
bluemaxhey08:53
pablo928zenlunatic:if you have java installed you can try testmy.net08:53
jackassaardwark do you mean windows media player???08:53
aardvarkzenlunatic: bandwidth to and from ISP ?08:53
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goldfishmakaveli: in settings choose alsa output08:54
Fator_Deeam I imagining things or is the mplayer from hoarys repos a little broken?08:54
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aardvarkjackass: no mplayer08:55
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makaveligoldfish: where is settings?08:55
jackassaardwark: where can I find that player then?08:55
goldfishmakaveli: emmm, top left corner of it08:55
Geezer041Please can you help an idiot. I installed via synaptic xfree866 something. Rebooted and it doesnt work. I only have what looks like a terminal (DOS) Can you help me get rid of xfree866 or get me into a GUI so that i can via synaptic?08:55
goldfishmakaveli: right click08:55
goldfishi think08:55
aardvarkseems like mplayer is at its end......08:55
zenlunaticaardvark, yeah08:56
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aardvarkhttp://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/index.html08:56
aardvarkthey are being pressurized by the 'man'08:56
aardvarkcease and desist08:56
makaveligoldfish: for output plugin it says also 1.2.10 output plugin08:56
makaveliit still won't work08:56
aardvarkwhen did all this transpire, would that explain hoarys repository  ?08:56
goldfishjeez08:56
jackassthnx08:57
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bluemaxis there an easy way to change the Applications/Places/System menu names in Gnome?08:57
aardvarkjackass: try Xine08:57
mark345hey:), im having a problem viewing thumbnails for a few mpg files in nautilus08:57
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aardvarkjackass: better yet look at VLC http://www.videolan.org/vlc/08:57
Geezer041would anybody be help me?08:57
Geezer041 Please can you help an idiot. I installed via synaptic xfree866 something. Rebooted and it doesnt work. I only have what looks like a terminal (DOS) Can you help me get rid of xfree866 or get me into a GUI so that i can via synaptic?08:57
mark345the files used to be .avi files and were unreadable08:58
mark345i converted them to mpg and they play fine08:58
mark345but they still have no thumbnails, just icons08:58
goldfishGeezer041: you could try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8608:58
Geezer041tk08:59
mark345bluemax: install smeg08:59
mark345menu editor08:59
Fator_Deewell, all would be alright if the european parliament would vote "no" to the patent legislation08:59
makavelii still can't figure out why none of the programs won't play any of my music miles08:59
makavelifile*08:59
Fator_DeeGeezer041: do you have hoary or warty installed?08:59
aardvarkmakaveli: is your soundcard working08:59
Geezer041hoary08:59
makaveliyes08:59
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makavelii get all the sounds that gnome creates09:00
pablo928makaveli:what format are they, mp3?09:00
makaveliyes09:00
HappyFooltried installing gstreamer0.8-mad ?09:00
aardvarkmakaveli: are these mp3's, wma ?09:00
bluemaxmark: i have smeg but it seems i can only edit the stuff under the Applications menu unstead of the Applications title itself...09:00
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makavelithe are mp309:00
zenlunaticaardvark, what we need is free software mulitmedia formats09:00
Fator_DeeGeezer041: hoary uses xorg instead of xfree86, so I think you should do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8609:00
makavelixmms won't work totem won't work and neither will music player09:00
aardvarkzenlunatic: hmmm I'll speak to the man ;-)09:01
Flavzenlunatic: like ogg? :)09:01
xukuncan somebody tell me why I cant run freenx on ubuntu?09:01
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zenlunaticFlav, Vorbis yes. And flac and theora.09:01
zenlunaticFlav, Oh and MPC.09:01
aardvarkzenlunatic: flac is nice but huge09:01
Flavlossless will do that09:01
zenlunaticFlav, The open sound formats are already superior.09:01
Fator_Deebut the software patent legislation si still a huge drawback09:02
zenlunaticaardvark, duh its lossless09:02
aardvarkzenlunatic: precisely but its sounz good09:02
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aardvarkzenlunatic: whats your point09:02
makavelinone of my media players work with any of the mp3's09:03
aardvarkmakaveli: XMMS ?09:03
Fator_Deemakaveli: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?09:03
tritiummakaveli, you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad09:03
makavelinope09:03
makavelii don't know09:03
zenlunaticaardvark, you said its big09:03
HappyFoolmakaveli: read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:03
zenlunaticaardvark, of course lossless is larger09:03
xukunbob2, are u in?09:03
makaveliwill do thanks09:04
aardvarkmakaveli: type on the CLI "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"09:04
ivokswhat is CLI?09:04
zenlunaticaardvark, don't forget sudo or sudo -s -H09:04
HappyFoolcommand-line interface09:04
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zenlunaticivoks, command line09:04
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xukunits possible that I cant run freenx becouse no xfonts-base is not installed on ubuntu?09:04
ivoksline?09:04
abbot45how do i restart the panel?09:04
ivoks:)09:04
aardvarkzenlunatic: sure ! hey makaveli did you hear that ?09:04
bluemaxis there another Gnome menu editor besides Smeg that i can use to change the Applications, Places, and System menu titles to something else?09:05
tritiumivoks, command line interface09:05
JairunCalothare there linux drivers for the SB audigy?09:05
zenlunaticaardvark, sudo -s -H may be dangerous though :)09:05
ivokstritium you are spoiling all the fun :(09:05
tritiumivoks, heh, sorry ;)09:05
mark345anyone know how to reset the .thumbnail directory in gnome09:05
mark345???09:05
tritiummark345, you can safely delete its contents09:06
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mark345even the folders inside .thumbnail?09:06
abbot45bluemax, there are a few different ones, but they are basicly gonna do the same thing for you as Smeg.  you can try Menueditor.  but there isnt really a good way.  the next ubuntu release (10.12) will have a full supported menu editor.09:06
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mark345bluemax: smeg is the best, if "other" folder is not showing up, which is a bug, just ad it, then it will show up09:07
bluemaxabbot45: ok thanks... ubuntu isn't as customizable as i was hoping it would be...09:07
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abbot45bluemax, oops.  i mean the next Gnome release, not the next Ubuntu release.09:08
Andrilanyone familiar with autopackage?09:08
abbot45bluemax, it will be version 2.12.009:08
bluemaxabbot45: ah, that's good, i didn't want to wait months for the next ubuntu release :)09:08
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abbot45bluemax, i dont know when the next gnome release is.  it may be just as long.09:09
pablo928 tritium:, how long do you think before breezy is stable enough for a newbie like me to play with? (I can install it on a empty hdd i have).09:09
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abbot45can anyone tell me how to restart the gnome panel?  its killall _____09:09
tritiumpablo928, I'd give it at least a few weeks09:10
bluemaxkillall gnome-panel09:10
pablo928abbot45, killall gnome-panel09:10
abbot45thanks09:10
abbot45bluemax, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo09:10
Geezer041Tritium i wonder if you can help me a problem?09:10
pablo928tritiummaybe i'll try it next month.09:10
tritiumGeezer041, possibly.  What is it?09:11
tritiumpablo928, sounds good.09:11
Geezer041 installed via synaptic xfree866 something. Rebooted and it doesnt work. I only have what looks like a terminal (DOS) Can you help me get rid of xfree866 or get me into a GUI so that i can via synaptic?09:11
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tritiumGeezer041, if you're running hoary, you should be using xorg, not xfree86.  Please "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"09:12
no0ticbackports are extreeemely slow, it's normal?09:13
Andrilanyone install inkscape?09:13
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Geezer041It is broken or not fully installed09:13
R0bNycI've tried to install Kubuntu and Ubuntu and I get this error. I choose reiserfs anyways.. Copying Packages Failed.. Copying packages to the harddisk failed. You may have run out of disk space in the targer /var filesystem.     Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details.09:13
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aardvarkanyone know what the current availibility / support there is for writing to NTFS partitions ?09:14
tritiumGeezer041, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg".  Also, please include my nick, as I'm in a meeting, and switching out of this channel.09:15
aardvarktritium: are you an official Ubuntu dev ?09:15
agentanyone get qemu to compile?09:15
dead^^hi everyone. does anyone here know P2P programs to Linux, like DC++ or oDC on Windows. Does Linux even have one that would support DC++ or oDC hublists?09:15
Geezer041thanks and sorry09:15
goldfishdead^^: dc++ works on ubuntu, there is a howto in ubuntuforums.org09:16
tritiumaardvark, no, I'm an motu09:16
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dead^^goldfish, really? thanks man09:16
goldfishdead^^: yep09:16
aardvarktritium: excuse my French, what the $^#@$%@# is motu09:16
Geezer041tritium: Thank you. Should i don anything else?09:16
tritiumaardvark, heh, sorry.  We maintain packages in universe, but not main09:17
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aardvarkah said the blind man09:17
tritiumGeezer041, try that for now, and please let me know how things go.09:17
Geezer041ok, tk09:17
dead^^goldfish, i'll try it out and if it doesn't work or i'll get stuck, i'll come to you :)09:17
goldfishhehe09:17
Andrilhas anyone installed Inkscape?09:17
R0bNyc I've tried to install Kubuntu and Ubuntu and I get this error. I choose reiserfs anyways.. Copying Packages Failed.. Copying packages to the harddisk failed. You may have run out of disk space in the targer /var filesystem.     Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details can aonyone help me09:17
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apersonh'lo all09:19
agentR0bNyc, most likely you screwed up your partitions :) jutst do ubuntu default install... if you ran out of space in var that probably means you made the partition waaaaaaay too small09:19
agentR0bNyc, or you can try to resize the partition if you know how09:20
R0bNycagent, 9.7gb is way to install ?09:20
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evilmegamanam I here?09:20
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pablo928 R0bNyc, are you installing ubuntu as a 2nd os or the only os?09:20
R0bNyc2nd pablo92809:21
tritiumaardvark, why do you ask?  just curious, or did you have a concern?09:21
aardvarktritium: just interested09:21
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tritiumaardvark, okay :)09:21
Geezer041tritium: Back in to GUI09:21
tritiumGeezer041, super :)09:21
Geezer041tk09:22
tritiumno problem!09:22
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Geezer041tritium: You any idea now how to make my 855gm intel c**p work properly so i can play AA?09:22
K_Dallasanyone good with LaTeX here? #latex is so slow to answer if ever09:22
tritiumK_Dallas, what's up?09:22
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tritiumGeezer041, how is it not working properly?  And what is AA?09:23
K_Dallaswell i need to plave a vertical text, banner like, in the left margin09:23
K_Dallasplace*09:23
Andrilhas anone used this http://autopackage.org/index.html09:23
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dead^^hey, goldfish. how long are planning to stay here?09:23
goldfishi am always here09:23
Geezer041tritium: Its a game Americas Army but the graphics are all choppy. They weren't under XP09:24
tritiumK_Dallas, hmm, I haven't dont that before.  Let me see what I can find...09:24
K_Dallasthank you09:24
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john6000cedega?09:24
K_Dallascedega == winex ?09:24
john6000yep09:24
john6000but hugher version09:24
john6000less bugs09:24
K_Dallasok09:24
john6000more compatuble09:24
john6000compatible*09:24
K_Dallasnever used it (well i never play ;)09:24
john6000ok09:25
Gianmariahi guys, rythmbox says it needs an mp3 plugin to process mp3 files, what's the name of this plug in ? Thanks in advance09:25
john6000i got steam to run in cedega09:25
eruincedega is great09:25
tritiumGeezer041, no, sorry.  I'm not sure about that.09:25
K_Dallaslast game i played was gorilla ;)09:25
john6000yep cedega is cool09:25
john6000:)09:25
JDahlI have a local printer setup with CUPS on one machine. Can other Ubuntu machines use the same printer? I am not sure how to share it using CUPS09:25
tritiumGianmaria, gstreamer0.8-mad09:25
eruinGianmaria: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:25
Geezer041tritium: Thanks for all your help, you're a legend!09:25
Gianmariatritium: thanks09:25
tritiumGeezer041, no, not really.  But thanks.  :)09:25
Gianmariaeruin: thanks09:26
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john6000#kubuntu has gone quiet :o09:26
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JDahlK_Dallas, Gorilla was a great game!09:26
g14OT: The new Microsoft VI - http://packetstormsecurity.org/unix-humor/unixoid_hell.gif09:26
K_DallasJDahl: i know ;)09:27
john6000ha funny09:27
john6000lol09:27
tritiumK_Dallas, have you use tekdoctk?09:27
IcemanV9gorilla == donkey kong??09:27
JDahlshouldn't it be easy to share a CUPS printer with other machines? What would I type in the URI field under network setup?09:27
K_Dallastritium what is that? a package?09:27
tritiumK_Dallas, sorry, that's texdoctk09:27
K_Dallasa package? nope then09:28
K_Dallasi will try it09:28
tritiumit's part of tetex-bin.  It's a documentation browser for TeX/LaTeX09:28
concept10what is the apt-get command to search for a package installed?09:28
K_Dallasapt-cache search09:28
tritiumdpkg -l | grep <package>09:28
K_Dallasoh :)09:28
concept10two ways09:29
tritiumapt-cache search will look in the repositories as well09:29
K_Dallastritium i will try it when i boot back into debian09:29
K_Dallasthanks09:29
tritiumK_Dallas, okay, no problem.09:29
concept10K_Dallas: dallas, tx/09:29
concept10?09:29
tritiumdpkg only looks at locally installed packages09:29
Seveastritium, apt-cache search looks only in local copies of sourcelists09:29
tritiumSeveas, true09:29
Seveasand dpkg -l can handle wildcards too :)09:30
K_Dallas:)09:30
tritiumBut it'll list packages that are not installed09:30
Seveasdpkg -l '*gimp*' for instance09:30
tritium(apt-cache search)09:30
Seveastritium, very true :)09:30
tritiumyep09:30
Seveasbut so can dpkg09:30
Seveaswell, only uninstalled but not purged or unpacked but not configured ones09:31
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tritiumconcept10, what is it you're looking for?09:31
Fator_Deewell, this is a refreshment to the old distro/editor/browser wars ;-)09:31
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tritiumSeveas, indeed :)09:31
R0bNycpablo928, u there09:32
concept10yes - Im not a regular ubuntu/debian user - but I like ubuntu, im trying to move some tools over to ubuntu from RPMS09:32
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zxcis it possible to run internet explorer on ubuntu?09:32
Seveashmm, instead of A/S/L it is now D/D/E (Distro, Desktop, Editor) :))09:32
tritiumconcept10, super.  It sounds like you're searching for packages that you have not installed yet?  I'd use apt-cache search09:32
Seveaszxc, maybe using a lot of tweaking and wine09:32
tritiumzxc, yes, with wine09:32
K_Dallaszxc: crossover does it but not sure about wine09:32
K_Dallasso wine it too :)09:32
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zxcah it must have been crossover, I was wondering why a fully functioning ie was on my desk in ubuntu heh09:33
concept10I was checking some of the goals for the next Ubuntu release and I am trying to move Fedora's system-config-services to ubuntu09:33
Fator_DeeSeveas: and you can include multimedia player to the list too :-)09:33
Seveashehe09:33
gezandahi...i use ubvuntu hoary rc, last version...i'm from italy...how i can install java for this system???with java in internet i can't instead i think ai can use the shell...somebody can help me???09:33
tritiumzxc, winetools from winehq.com will get IE6 installed09:33
pablo928 R0bNyc, yes09:33
tritium(it requires the version of wine that's also from winehq.com)09:33
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Seveasgezanda, download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-pacake and run make-jpkg java_bin_filename09:34
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Seveasthat creates a .deb which you can install with dpkg09:34
gezandathanks a lot09:34
K_Dallasshould one uses -force with dpkg09:34
tritiumnot usually, why?09:35
K_Dallasi meant for installing that java09:35
SeveasK_Dallas, only when problems arise09:35
concept10anyone familar with using alien?09:35
carthik_munchCan the nautilus CD burner burn DVDs successfully? Has anyone tried it here?09:35
Seveasconcept10, yes09:35
tritiumconcept10, are there not .debs of the software you want?  What are you looking for?09:35
xukunanybody using freenx and hoary?09:35
eivindI have downloaded ubuntu 5.04 livecd, but it hangs under language configuration. Anyone knows whats cause this?09:36
Fator_Deecarthik_munch: yes it does09:36
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carthik_munchFator_Dee, thanks, I am going to take the plunge in a bit :)09:36
Fator_Deebut if you want to be sure try with an rw first :-)09:36
gezandamy shell says that it's impossible tu find java-pacake09:36
zenlunatichow can i stop my irc from lagging out when i apt-get large files?09:36
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tovellaconcept10: when I can't find a particular deb, i use checkinstall to make one from the source code... it's easy.09:36
tritiumgezanda, please do follow Seveas advice, rather than ubuntuguide's.09:36
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BladlusHi. When trying to play a file in rhythmbox, it fails and I get this error in the console: Got error opening "file://.....mp3": Could not pause playback09:37
BladlusCould anyone help me?09:37
tritiumgezanda, java-package is in multiverse.  Do you have that enabled?09:37
gezandayes09:37
john6000wow linus has a company linus trovaldus09:37
john6000http://www.transmeta.com/09:37
concept10tritium: im trying to move a red hat specific program from fedora core to Ubuntu/Debian.  Trying to complete a goal of the next Ubuntu releasre09:37
jeroen_john6000, that's not Linus Torvalds' company, he used to work there09:37
john6000oh09:38
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john6000thanks09:38
tritiumgezanda, you should probably do a "sudo apt-get update" then.  If you have multiverse enabled, you should find it09:38
jeroen_john6000, he doesn't work there anymore though09:38
john6000ok09:38
john6000know him?09:38
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jeroen_no09:38
john6000how does he make money?09:38
jeroen_read his book though09:38
Svartdoes anyone know how to play movies using the ubuntu live cd(warty)?09:38
john6000ok09:38
jeroen_he gets paid by OSDL09:38
john6000osdl?09:39
Seveaswww.osdl.org09:39
zenlunaticSvart, I doubt its possible.09:39
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Fator_Deeopen source development lab?09:39
concept10people give him money because he is cute09:39
Svarthow come?09:39
tritiumconcept10, I see09:39
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BladlusDoes anyone know?09:39
chrisssi mounted my ntfs partition on /windows... how do i get a (non-root) user to be able to view it09:39
tritiumWell, in that case, there certainly will be no .debs ;)09:39
john6000oh i see09:39
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concept10tritium: no .debs is probably correct09:40
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Seveaschrisss, give the good mount options :)09:40
Svartzenlunatic,  how come?09:40
chrisss???????09:40
zenlunaticSvart, Because the livecd doesn't contain the software.09:40
Gianmariajust curious, which kernel did you chose at installation, what are the differences?09:40
Seveaschriss: a line in the fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,uid=dennis,gid=dennis,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 0 009:40
mirakhi09:40
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chrisssok.. thanxxx09:40
Seveaschrisss, but then with your name instead of mine :)09:40
chrisssobviously09:41
mirakI am on breezy and can't modprobe fglrx09:41
Svartit has a movie player, isnt it a bit moronic to include a movieplayer but no codecs?09:41
mirakwhat should I do ?09:41
Seveasmirak, there is no linux-restricted-modules package for breezy yet09:41
jeroen_john6000, http://www.osdl.org/newsroom/press_releases/2003/2003_06_17_beaverton.html09:41
topylimirak: get a stable distribution? :)09:41
Seveasswitching to breezy is also very unadvisable09:41
mirakSeveas: can I compile it from source ?09:41
Seveasmirak, if you don't know these basic things, DON'T use breezy...09:41
Seveasit's gonna be much more unstable the next weeks09:42
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mirakSeveas: I have done it already on mandrake and debian, but I want to know how it is on ubuntu09:42
zenlunaticSvart, its not moronic its due to patent issues.09:42
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chrisssfk Thank You!!!09:43
mirakit's too late I can't switch back09:43
chrissss/fk/NULL09:43
zxchow do you open an file in terminal09:43
thenukezxc: depends on a file :o09:43
Seveaszxc, define 'open a file'09:43
Fator_Deezxc: what kind of file09:43
Seveascat filename is a way :o)09:43
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mirakso any hint ?09:43
Seveasmirak, yeah: reinstall hoary09:43
zxcit's a Mathematica "executable" - in properties it says Shell Script09:44
mirakSeveas: no it will take ages and I will loose my config09:44
Seveaszxc, ./MathInstaller09:44
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thenukemirak: Just do not use breezy if you dont have what it takes :D09:44
butcher_hi09:44
Fator_Deemirak: you could save you configs somewhere09:44
Svartzenlunatic, I am well aware of that, but I would really like to watch som movies before i get my new computer and the Totem is teasing me with its inability to play stuff..09:44
zxcWarning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C09:44
zxcWarning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default09:44
zxcCaught 'Segmentation Fault', shutting down09:44
topylimirak: ubuntu's development versions are (at this point of the release cycle) much more unstable than debian unstable09:44
zxcany idea how to sort that out?09:45
Fator_Deemirak: email them to yourself for an example :-p09:45
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Svartzenlunatic, wich makes me one frustrated user09:45
mirakFator_Dee: I have of course antoher partition09:45
mirakthat's not the problem09:45
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mirakanyway fglrx is an issue even on hoary because it's not updated always along the kernel09:46
miraknot now of course, but it was09:46
Seveaszxc, mathematica installed fine for me, try setting your locale to C or english before installing09:46
mirak:)09:46
mirakanyway there is no reason to not learn09:46
zxchow do I set my locale to C? it's in UK English :/09:46
zenlunaticSvart, hopefully you'll learn where to place the blame09:46
Svarthe :)09:47
mirakby the way ot's not wise to say use hoary since you just can't reply yourself to the question09:48
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mirakjust don't reply09:48
mirakif you don't know09:49
tritiummirak, it is wise to suggest that you use Hoary.  In fact, did you read the topic?09:49
tritiumYou're asked to please not use Breezy yet.09:50
mirakI probably read it09:50
mirakone day09:50
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Seveaszxc, are you still ther, sorri, i was busy...09:50
tritiummirak, it changes from time to time09:50
mirakanyway I will just rebuild the module09:50
miraklol09:50
mirakthat's not very hard09:50
mirakI just though I could go a bit faster by having just an hint09:51
mirakbut no09:51
tritiummirak, Seveas gave you the needed hint regarding the lack of linux-restricted-modules09:51
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mirakapt-cache search fglrx helped me09:52
Seveasmirak, it's not possible to give hints on using breezy, it's too unstable for that09:52
mirakbut in fact I tried to get the source09:52
cavedive1Hmm.. When is the right-click on mp3-file bug gonna be fixed ?09:52
Seveaswe don't even know whether fglrx can work with the current kernel09:52
mirakapt-get source fglrx-kernel-src tried to load the full 44Mb of sources09:52
mirakin fact I just need to install the sources09:52
mirakI mean the src package09:52
mirakI didn't knew that09:53
mirakit was my question in fact :)09:53
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mirakSeveas: mmm why not ?09:53
mirakSeveas: I will tell you then09:53
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mirakthe way how modules are bound to the kernel is anoying in linux09:54
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Fator_Deeis there an image viewing program that can handle image files inside zip,rar,tar,etc... files?09:54
Fator_Deeso that I wouldn't have to extract the,09:55
Fator_Dee*them09:55
SeveasFator_Dee, use archive manager for that09:55
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Seveasthey have to be extracted transparently anyway and archivemanager can do that09:56
Fator_Deelets see09:56
mirakok module-assistant wont help ^^09:56
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Fator_DeeSeveas: well it works (kind of) but you have to open every file separately :-\09:57
mirakI have installed the sources, and it put them in /usr/src/ and I extracted and it was put accordingly in /usr/src/modules09:57
Fator_DeeI mean, you can't browse the archive with the viewer which makes it a hassle09:57
mirakis it normal that module-assistant doesn't list it ?09:57
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SeveasFator_Dee, can't nautilus look inzide compressed files (i dont use nautilus too much, so i could be telling rubbish here)09:57
Fator_DeeI use xfce09:58
Seveasmirak, for unstable os'es yes09:58
Seveasthere the unexpected is as normal as the expected09:58
mirakI just ask if it's like that on hoary then09:59
mirakbut you just don't know09:59
mirakso why doing phylosophy ?09:59
Seveason hoary there is linux-restricted-modules :)09:59
Seveas(and yes, on hoaru module-assistant works too)09:59
mirakwith fglrx ?09:59
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Seveasyes09:59
savio[ubu] hi all09:59
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savio[ubu] http://www.ubuntuitalia.it/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=47&func=view&id=4782&catid=15 <--- can you help me?09:59
Fator_DeeSeveas: and it seems nautilus can't see inside compressed files10:00
savio[ubu] how can i change splash screen in ubuntu?10:00
Seveassavio[ubu] , which splash screen: grub, gdm, an application?10:00
lolobdhow can i close the X session?10:00
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savio[ubu] gnome10:00
Seveaslolobd, what do you mean10:00
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lolobdI mean, get to a shell without having X running on another10:01
Seveassavio[ubu] , the login screen or the screen that shows progress between hitting the logging button and having a complete desktop?10:01
zenlunaticany reason why apt-get would stop downloading large packages in the middle of progress?10:01
qs^chaoticozhey there :>10:01
Seveaslolobd, /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:01
nanot3chhey, does anyone know of a plugin for XMMS like the Gaim System Tray icon?10:01
savio[ubu] Seveas: two10:01
Seveaszenlunatic, network problems maybe?10:01
Dalkuszenlunatic, maybe your internet connection got interupted10:01
lolobdthanks seveas ill try that10:01
Fator_Deezenlunatic: network problem? not enough disk space?10:01
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zenlunaticGuys, I'm on irc with the same connection.10:02
Seveaslol :)10:02
Fator_Deeon the other end10:02
Fator_Deethe network problem10:02
Seveasbut network can have problems at ubuntu's end or somewhere in between10:02
neighborleehow does ubuntu legally make the nvidia-glx available ,,as in im told its not distributable for free ..i'm being told this by a OP in #mandriva..???10:02
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Seveassavio[ubu] , doesn't system->preferences->theme help?10:03
savio[ubu] Seveas:  ok :)10:03
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Dalkusneighborlee, it is distrubuted for free, its just not open source - I think10:03
savio[ubu] for cursors of mouse?10:03
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savio[ubu] (Excuse-me for my english, but, i'm italian boy :(10:03
Dalkushe neabs free as in freedom, not beer.10:03
neighborleeDalkus, that was my understanding10:03
Seveassavio[ubu] , install gcursor for that10:03
savio[ubu] devo10:03
savio[ubu] gcursor10:03
savio[ubu] apt-get install gcursor?10:03
savio[ubu] :P10:03
Seveasyes10:04
SeveasDalkus, you're right10:04
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Seveasthere are some binary-only parts10:04
Dalkus:)10:04
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dashheh what's going on with the dbus package in breezy10:05
Seveasdash, massive api breakage10:05
Seveasso yeah, breezy is broken :)10:06
dashwooooo10:06
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dashguess i'll upgrade later, then! :D10:06
Seveasread the changelog: * New upstream version, now with 97% more api breakage10:06
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dashawesome10:06
Amaranththe new dbus should be the last major API change10:06
Seveaswell10:06
Seveasapart from c++10:06
dashAmaranth: this time for sure! ;)10:06
Amaranthappearently the hope is that this version + bugfixes can be 1.010:07
crimsununtil the next big api change!10:07
Seveasbut that's an abi change :)10:07
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Seveaso you mean just dbus, i thought you meant in breezy ;)10:07
AElfwinehi10:07
Amaranthyeah, just dbus10:07
dashok, i will be patient ;) thanks10:07
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AElfwineis it possible to make ubuntu compatible with windows encoding (non UTF-8) ? Some music files looks ugly :(10:09
neighborleenm10:09
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zenlunaticwtf my apt timed out on ubuntu.com repositories10:09
Fator_Deezenlunatic: it got bored10:10
Seveaslol :)10:10
Amaranthzenlunatic: Welcome to the internet. :)10:10
Fator_DeeIn case of doubt, make a joke10:10
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evilmegamananyone hear me?10:13
AElfwineno10:13
evilmegamanok good :)10:13
evilmegamanjust had to see if anyone can respond to me10:13
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Seveasno, shout a little harder please :)10:13
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evilmegamanMy internet connection keeps going out so I have to make sure that I am still connected ;)10:14
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Seveasevilmegaman, keep a ping/mtr/bwm running in a terminal :)10:14
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zxcSeveas, I went afk but what does it mean by "Local C or whatever" it relation to Mathematica10:15
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evilmegamanOk :) thanks10:15
abarbacciahey all - i want to learn how to get involved with ubuntu development - can someone help me out with a good way to start?10:15
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crimsunabarbaccia: you're in u-motu, no?10:16
Seveaszxc, the locale is the language in which everything is displayed10:16
zxchmm, I'm running English UK, so I guess I'll have to change this to Americano? And if so how?10:16
Seveaszxc, try: LOCALE=EN_us ./MathInstaller10:16
Seveason one line10:16
abarbacciacrimsun, yes - but i dont know where to start10:16
zxcI'm not installing but yeah I'm running10:17
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Seveasah ok10:17
Seveasit installed fine?10:17
crimsunabarbaccia: there's a page on the wiki outlining how to contribute10:17
zxcYup10:17
abarbacciacrimsun, it would be great if someone would let me like tag along - or package something easy so i can learn the process10:17
crimsunabarbaccia: also, wiki/DeveloperResources10:17
Seveasi only had the problem that all fonts looked extremely ugly in mathematica10:17
crimsunabarbaccia: are you in u-love?10:17
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zxcwell, I installed it to zxc/home/ as it wouldn't install properly in usr/local/ but apart from that it was fine10:18
abarbacciacrimsun, no, not yet10:18
Seveasdoes LOCALE=EN_us ./Mathematica work?10:18
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zxcWarning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C10:19
zxcWarning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default10:19
zxcCaught 'Segmentation Fault', shutting down10:19
zxcsame error10:19
neighborleecan someone PLEASE say how its legal for ubuntu/debian to offer the nvidia-glx legally??10:19
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Seveasneighborlee, afaik it IS legal to redistibute it10:19
crimsunneighborlee: it says so in the license10:20
neighborleewelll this nut in #mandriva says otherwise10:20
Seveascan you give me an authoritative source that proves me wrong?10:20
crimsunneighborlee: that nut is wrong10:20
Seveas#mandriva is not an authoritative source...10:20
neighborleecrimsun, I thought so10:20
Seveaswhy beleive them and not us?10:20
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abarbacciacrimsun, okay - im going to read on the wiki some - thanks for the advice/link10:20
ivokscrimsun one can find you everywhere :)10:20
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crimsunivoks: :)10:20
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resiakneighborlee: Read its license?10:23
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zxchmm, you know Ubuntu (not the login in screen) but when you actually physically press enter a brown blank screen pops up. Anyway of changing the colour?10:23
neighborleeresiak, I never did as I trust debian to do the right thing10:23
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Recyclableyo doods10:23
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neighborleeresiak, I know how anal they are about license so <G>10:24
resiakneighborlee: So do I, but I'm just saying that that's the authoritative source.10:24
Seveas2.1.2 Linux/FreeBSD Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux or FreeBSD operating systems, or other operating systems derived from the source code to these operating systems, may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files).10:24
Seveasverbatim copy from the license10:24
Recyclableguys, i'm having a real problem in getting the flashplayer plugin installed for firefox.10:24
aVeedoare you running 64?10:24
Recyclableyes10:24
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RecyclableA6410:25
aVeedoI have the same problem10:25
Recyclable3000+10:25
Recyclableaha.10:25
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zxcRecyclable, pretty sure it doesn't work on AMD6410:25
Seveasindeed10:25
zxcalong with Realplayer10:25
Recyclable:\\10:25
Recyclablewhy not?10:25
AElfwineI had the same pb, until I decided to install i8610:25
AElfwinex8610:25
aVeedoI saw a wiki for gentoo that made it owkr on 6410:25
Recyclable:(10:25
March-RX8hello10:25
Recyclablethat am the sucks10:25
aVeedoso it's possible, but I don't know of any specific tutorials for ubuntu10:26
Recyclablek10:26
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aVeedosucks, doesnt it10:26
ivoksheh10:26
Recyclableyes.10:26
Seveashello March-RX810:26
RecyclableNo weebl and bob for meeee :'(10:26
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Seveasaaaaahh, weebl & bob :o)10:26
zxcxD10:26
Recyclableyes :D10:26
SeveasPIE!10:26
Recyclabletry pie, try10:26
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Seveasbut let's stay on-topic here :)10:27
Recyclableheard about ubuntu through weebl forums :P10:27
resiakPiepiepiepiepiepiepie!10:27
Recyclablewant pie now!10:27
Recyclable:P10:27
Seveaslol, so it is on topic now :)10:27
Recyclableyes10:27
Recyclablehahaha10:27
topylihumans need pie10:27
Recyclableyes10:27
aVeedofrench silk pie10:27
{Cricket}Hey guys got a question... I have a friend that is using ubuntu and hes having trouble with jre in the .bin filetype it is having trouble extracting the .bin and therefore won't let him continue with the installation of jre what file is it that he needs to get to make it able to extract the .bin correctly?10:28
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Seveas{Cricket}, install java-package and run make-jpkg filename_of_java_bin10:28
Seveasthen dpkg -i the_created_debfile10:28
{Cricket}thanks Seveas =)10:28
topyliyes10:28
MahlHey its me again :P Is there any way to convert my fat32 disk to linux fs without loosing data within linux?10:28
lolobdI am trying to get my tvout working, i made a device2, monitor2 and layout2 on my xorg.conf file for the tv, but when i startx with layout2, it still goes to the lcd monitor.. could this depend on the BusID parameter?10:29
Seveasthat's impossible Mahl10:29
topyliMahl: no10:29
Mahldamn10:29
MahlSo I would have to make all backup first10:29
aVeedoBorrow a hardrive10:29
usynicany of you use mplayer-plugin ?10:29
Recyclablehmmmm10:29
topyliMahl: that's a good idea :)10:29
Mahlthe delete partition and convert to linuxfs10:29
neighborleeSeveas, i'm not a lawyer but that would seem to indicate that its legal..is that your take ?10:29
Mahlthen copy over files?10:29
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Kanohi10:30
topyliMahl: yes10:30
Recyclablecouldn't he bring the filesover from the fat32 to linux then delete fat3210:30
Recyclablebrb gotta make lunch10:30
Seveasneighborlee, it says that it is legal to distribute the binary files in .debs or .rpms10:30
Seveasso the #mandriva guys talk bull[censored] 10:30
Kanocould anyone tell me if there are kernel patches for hp laptop support in the kernel?10:30
neighborleeSeveas, that my take as well yes10:30
Mahlwell its about a hundred gigs10:30
neighborleeSeveas, agred10:30
neighborleeagreed10:30
SeveasKano, what do you need to see supported10:30
SeveasKano, my HP works fine without patches10:31
zxcwould a swap improve my performance on games like flightgear?10:31
neighborleeSeveas, LOL10:31
Seveaszxc, very likely10:31
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topyliSeveas: it doesn't say that. otherwise, debian would probably distribute it in non-free10:31
KanoSeveas: i just want to know, i have no hp, but some said some button would work with ubuntu10:31
zxchow do I create a swap now (after install)10:31
IcemanV9usynic: mplayer-plugin runs just fine on my box10:31
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usynicIcemanV9: works fine on mine too... but I notied the latest version doesn't have stop/play/fullscreen buttons10:32
Seveastopyli, then where do you see that it;s not allowed????10:32
usynicIcemanV9: how do you operate it?10:32
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MahlOh well im buying a 250 gig hdd anyhow10:32
Sleehi10:32
SeveasKano, there is a little userlevel trick needed for the volume and lock buttons10:32
goldfishhi Slee10:32
Seveasbut no kernel patches10:32
IcemanV9usynic: ah. dunno about that one.10:32
usynicIcemanV9: mplayer hotkeys don't work either10:32
Sleecan I ask a quesiton here?10:32
KanoSeveas: could you tell it to me?10:32
goldfishSlee: Of course.10:32
SeveasSlee, yes10:32
SleeI've just burnt ubuntu 5.04 on CD10:33
SeveasKano, sure, but there's a webpage that explains it better, hang on10:33
IcemanV9usynic: didn't go far -- i was satisified with it for now :)10:33
topyliSeveas: i'd have to check the license to answer that. i'm only trusting debian policy here :)10:33
Sleeand tried to install, but the installer don't recognize my partitions10:33
Seveastopyli, bad call10:33
Sleeis this known problem?10:33
Seveasdebian legal is filled with fanatists10:33
topylitrue10:33
topylibut wise too10:33
SeveasKano, http://www.cs.duke.edu/~reynolds/nc6000-linux.html it's just for that type though10:34
Seveasbut google is your friend for other types :)10:34
SleeI have a mandrake currently, and I'd like to erase the partition mounted at / and replace it with unbuntu10:34
Seveastopyli, go and read the nvidia license10:34
Seveasit's very short10:34
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Seveashttp://www.nvidia.com/object/nv_swlicense.html10:34
Sleeany idea?10:34
KanoSeveas: the whole trick is using xmodmap?10:35
Seveasand setkeycodes10:35
aVeedoIf you want ot install it over your old mandrake (loosing all your stuff) then just install it.10:35
Seveasxmodmap isnt even needed10:35
Seveasthe gnome config tool can handle the raw keys10:35
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KanoSeveas: i do not use gnome10:36
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SeveasKano, maybe xfce ot kde tools recognize it too, no idea about that10:36
k9mateoits secure Ubuntu??10:36
Seveask9mateo, by default: very secure10:36
topyliSeveas: see 2.1: customer may install a single copy of the software on a single computer,, and may not .. copy the software10:36
k9mateook...thanks10:36
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Seveastopyli, see 2.1.2: the linux exception :)10:37
topyliah10:37
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Slee(goldfish): you remain silent?10:37
Seveasthat's what i pasted here10:37
Kanotoo easy... but thanks for info10:37
eob84has anone been able to configure bootsplash on ubuntu?10:37
k9mateotoo easy???10:37
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topyliSeveas: oh yes. modification is questionable though, beyond unzipping their binaries10:38
Seveaseob84, grub bootsplash?10:38
KanoSeveas: i thought it might be more complex10:38
Seveastopyli, and more isn't needed to create debs :)10:38
eob84Seveas, yes10:38
topyliSeveas: too fuzzy for debian :)10:38
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Seveaseob84, there's excellent info about that on the wiki10:38
zxcwhen you use synaptic when should the packages appear in your gnome thingy. As it seems to happen randomly, like one day a Debian Section appeared with all the stuff I've got...10:38
Seveastopyli, as i said: debian legal is filled with fanatists10:39
Seveas;)10:39
dockaneif there is any bug in hdparm or problems with that tool regarding the intel carmel chipset, where should i find it ?10:39
blakehelow10:39
blakewhat is the command to run rpm's10:39
Seveaszxc, it depends on the package10:39
topyliSeveas: and i said, true :)10:39
blakeis it10:39
blakerpm -U webmin-1.200-1.noarch.rpm10:39
Kanobye10:39
eob84Seveas, not sure what you mean by that10:39
Seveasblake, there is none10:39
blakedamn how do i run them10:39
Kanothanks for help10:39
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Seveasblake, convert it to a deb with alien and run dpkg. But are you sure there is no deb?10:39
Seveasblake, what are you trying to install?10:40
blakewebmin10:40
blake1.210:40
Seveaseob84, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search there10:40
Seveasblake, that is in the reposiitories10:40
blakei know10:40
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Seveasah, 1.18010:40
blakebut i'm not sure how to install it from the repositories10:40
zxcSeveas, in what way?10:41
blakethere is too many of them10:41
Seveasthat's easy blake:10:41
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blakeactually i did install it from there10:41
Sauron21hi..I was wondering if glib and libc6(I am not sure this is ther right name) is the same thing?10:41
blakeand now i can't fid it10:41
Seveasjust pick the webmin base and all the modules you need10:41
blakelol10:41
evilmegamanIs there a howto on how to compile your own kernel?10:41
Seveaszxc, some packages define menu entries, some don't10:41
blakeso i downloaded the rpm thinking it would be easyer10:42
Seveasevilmegaman, on the wiki10:42
evilmegamanok cool10:42
evilmegamanThanks seveas10:42
Seveasblake, it will NOT be easier, it will be more evil :)10:42
Fator_DeeSauron21: no, if they would be the same they would have the same name10:42
zxcSeveas, but they're all defined under "Run"?10:42
SeveasSauron21, libc6 = core system functions glib = graphical functions10:42
Seveaszxc yes, and from a terminal :)10:43
topyliSeveas: anyway, it's good to be careful with legal stuff boys when you are a poor non-profit project10:43
agentanyone get qemu 7.0 to compile?10:43
Seveastopyli, absolutely10:43
k9mateoinsmod for the AWE64???????    is very very old.......10:43
k9mateoisa10:43
Sauron21well...I have been trying to install acouple of programs...and all I get is that I lack GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... ....but I know I have it installed....10:43
eob84Seveas, there is nothing on bootsplash.... just usplash10:43
SeveasSauron21, do you try to compile them or run apt-get/synaptic?10:43
Seveaseob84, hang on10:43
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Sauron21compile....10:44
SeveasSauron21, install libgtk2-dev10:44
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Seveaslibgtk2.0-dev even10:44
Sauron21...installing10:45
davidranyone else forced to uninstall dom-inspector w/ the firefox security patch?10:45
davidri was going to file a bug10:45
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Seveaseob84, sorry, it was on the forum: www.ubuntuforums.org10:46
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eob84oh10:46
whyzoi, what's the commandline package manager in ubuntu called?10:46
webmindapt-get ?10:46
webmindor dpkg ?10:46
franklin50whyz: apt-get10:46
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whyzok..10:46
Seveasapt-get is the package-download-and-install tool10:46
Seveasdpkg is the install-this-deb tool10:46
franklin50it's amazing!10:46
Seveasapt-get uses dpkg internally :)10:47
Seveaswhyz, you might want to try aptitude too10:47
Seveasit has an ncurses interface10:47
whyzwhat's the switch for searching with apt-get?10:47
Seveas(that means a gui-like interface in the terminal)10:47
Seveasapt-cache search10:47
whyzokidoki, thanks10:47
Seveasso not apt-get :)10:47
Kejk_PLis in Ubuntu aptitude?10:47
Seveasyes10:47
Kejk_PLso Aptitude is good idea for someone without XP with apt10:48
Seveassynaptic would be better10:48
Seveasbut that's just gui10:48
Kejk_PLhehe, yes, I forgot :)10:48
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whyzi'm trying to configure lufs, but it says it can't find kernel headers.. but the kernel headers are installed according to synaptic10:49
admxTry linux-headers10:50
anto9usanyonw know, is it possible to sync my ipaq hx4700 with ubuntu?10:50
mirakwhyz: I think you must create a link10:50
Seveask9mateo, bothering people privately is quite impolite, please don't do that10:50
mirakfrom linux to the headers10:50
Kejk_PLI have one question about synaptic: Do it support nine feature like in aptitude, when I am unninstaling software, it removes unneded packges too?10:50
Seveaswhyz, lufs is in hoary too10:50
eob84Seveas, thanx... as it turns out there is a glitch in the 2.6.10 kernel that causes vesafb to mess up10:50
mirak linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/10:50
carthikI just wrote a dvd using Nautilus, but Windows XP refuses to acknowledge the presence of data on the DVD - what did I do wrong?10:51
mirakSeveas: do you know how I can make appear a module in module assistant ?10:51
Seveasand if you want to compile it yourself, you need to apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`10:51
eob84Seveas, atleast only for the debian release10:51
k9mateook.....sorry10:51
eob84Seveas, is it easy to compile 2.6.11 on ubuntu?10:51
carthikFator_Dee, I wrote the DVD, but it is not recognized in Win XP. would you know why?10:51
mirakSeveas: I have added a file in /var/cache/modass10:51
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Seveaseob84, i believe it is available in universe10:51
k9mateonot wise it10:52
eob84Seveas, it is10:52
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Seveasmirak, please note that i can and will not help people who use breezy since that's undoable. Sorry.10:52
eob84Seveas, just wondering if it compiled?10:52
k9mateosorry, seveas10:52
mirakSeveas: I could be on hoary and ask this question too10:52
Seveasdownload the source and find out eob84. Its presence in the archive means it's compilable :)10:52
mirakSeveas: I don't ask you to resolve my problem10:52
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Seveasmirak, but i know you are not10:52
eob84Seveas, none the less, thanx for your help... I may be able to fix my problem10:53
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mirakSeveas: so what ? I can still learn valuable informations10:53
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mirakSeveas: about how module assistant works for exemple10:53
Seveasmirak, there are manpages too...10:53
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mirakSeveas: true10:54
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mirakSeveas: but if you don't know just say it10:54
cirkit_hey  just got fluxbox in ubuntu with apt-get but im having a problem....there is no .xinitrc file in ubuntu???10:54
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dabaSlon.10:55
Seveas,10:55
Fator_Dee;10:55
Seveas:10:55
dabaSlonhaha10:55
dabaSlonno...10:55
chavocirkit_, just create the .xinitrc.10:55
cirkit_will ~/.fluxbox/startup work the same?10:56
chavoecho fluxbox > ~/.xinitrc10:56
blakehow do i open apache?10:56
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whyzusing apt-get/cache or whatever, how do i see if a package is already installed or not?10:56
Seveasblake, what do you mean?10:56
Fator_Deecarthik: sorry, don't know why10:56
blakewil it be in applications10:56
blake??10:56
blakei mean will it be in apps10:56
Seveaswhyz, dpkg -l | less, or search for it in synaptic10:56
chavocirkit_, you using gdm?10:56
blakethe tolbar10:56
Sauron21Seveas: it worked thx10:56
cirkit_yeah10:56
Fator_Deecarthik: does it work in ubuntu?10:57
dabaSlonblake: it is a daemon, runs at boot.10:57
blakei might have it installed already it i can't find it10:57
Seveasblake, apache is a server, you have to configure it and start it10:57
Fator_Dee(I assume yes, but...)10:57
Seveasyou'll never see it10:57
dabaSlonopen your browser, point to localhost...10:57
chavook, I'm not sure how to autostart apps for fluxbox.10:57
Seveasunless you go to your website10:57
dabaSlonthat will open your apache process on your computer.10:57
blakehow doi start it?10:57
Seveasblake, *please* read the manual10:57
blakeand what about webmin is that the same way??10:57
Seveason httpd.apache.org10:57
blakewhere is it10:57
Seveason httpd.apache.org :)10:57
amonkeyi have duplicate entries in my apps menu, how can i get rid of them? menu editor doesn't see multiples(in fact, i used it to make the entry that is in the duplicate folder)10:58
dabaSlonblake, as well, a book on LAMP is pretty nice to learn out of.10:58
Kejk_PLwebmin: https://localhost:1000010:58
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Seveasamonkey, if no one answers now (i don't know it, sorry), ask Amaranth when he is active10:58
blakewhat is lamp/10:59
Amaranthamonkey: Are you using smeg?10:59
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SeveasLinux,Apache,MySQL,Perl/PHP/Python10:59
dataw0lf|wlinux apache mysql php10:59
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amonkeyamaranth: i have no idea what that is10:59
dataw0lf|wlapp is better10:59
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mirakSeveas: I have fnialy found where it was10:59
dabaSlonxright, you wanna know about the LA part, it is interesting.10:59
dataw0lf|wlinux apache postgresql python10:59
kingsley_How durable are Samsung's LCD monitors?10:59
Seveaspostgres dataw0lf ?10:59
mirakSeveas: I can do it I tell you :)11:00
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amonkeyamaranth: i was trying to add a shortcut, and it added a new folder for it with the same name11:00
Seveasah ok, you answered it ;)11:00
dataw0lf|wseveas: that's correct ;)11:00
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Amaranthamonkey: Using smeg?11:00
makavelidoes anybody know how to get more workspaces11:00
makaveli?11:00
Amaranthmakaveli: right click on the workspaces area11:00
franklin50Can someone tell me the difference between vncserver and vnc4server?11:00
amonkeyamaranth: using the menu editor11:00
Amaranthit's in the preferences11:00
carthikFator_Dee, it does... but I had to give it to someone who's on XP11:01
makavelithanks11:01
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Seveasvnc4server is simply version 411:01
Seveasvncserver is 3.7.X i believe11:01
franklin50Seveas: Interesting.11:02
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Seveasfranklin50, use apt cache show to see the details ;)11:02
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Seveasapt-cache show that is11:02
Fator_Deecarthik: well, all I can say is that he is using a wrong OS :-p11:02
franklin50Seveas: thanks!11:02
dabaSlonSeveas: he wants to start apache from the apps menu...There is a filezilla server that works like that for windows.11:03
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dabaSlonand, it never connects for me...Windows...:)11:03
SeveasdabaSlon, apache for windows can work like that too11:03
dabaSlonyeah, I ghad that too, it breaks too.11:03
amonkeydoes anyone know how to get the sound in quake3 to work under ubuntu?11:04
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Seveasbut asking "how does apache work on linux" is simply too big a question for IRC11:04
dabaSlonbut after I started Linux, so, I never used it.11:04
dockanei recognized that hda is far too slow ( hdparm -t : 2.3 MB/sec). than i saw that dma is disabled but 'sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda' returns : HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted. any idea ?11:04
linuxn00bHey, in windows 2000 I can see my ubuntu share over samba, but when it says "connect as" I put in my ubuntu user name and pass, and it still doesnt work.11:04
amichaii keep getting an xkb error when i log in to gnome, anyone get that?11:04
dabaSlonright, I offered to send him a eBook...11:04
Amaranthamonkey: Ok, I'll assume you're using the old version. http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg <--download this to your home dir, open a terminal and run 'chmod +x installsmeg && sudo ./installsmeg'11:04
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dabaSlonso, he can read, or not...like that guy last night...wants to erase a hard disk with gtparted11:04
Seveasdockane, you cannot use the ide_generic driver but need specific drivers for your chipset, there was a post on thin in the ubuntu-users or ubuntu-devel mailinglist recently11:05
dabaSlonformat it...11:05
SeveasAmaranth, no smeg debs anymore?11:05
Seveasor does the installer pull them in?11:06
AmaranthSeveas: That's just a script to do all the hard work for you. Removes the old config, gets all the debs, installs them, and cleans up.11:06
dockaneSeveas, so its a commom problem? where do check if generic or some special driver is running ?11:06
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Mikeguys do you know why i get this error while trying to load aa module11:06
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hybrid_gothhello all11:07
DenisGhello guys.11:07
MikeFATAL: Error inserting zaptel (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/misc/zaptel.ko): Invalid module format11:07
DenisGgive me your xscreensaver-dialogue.11:07
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DenisGi'm on gentoo, and i want it too.11:07
DenisGgive me. now.11:07
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SeveasDenisG, don't troll please11:08
BurgundaviaDenisG, this is not the correct place to ask11:08
Seveasdownload the deb, extract it and take the splash11:08
dabaSlonDenisG: awesome, denis.11:08
DenisGit just is so great, i would love to have it on my PC :)11:08
dabaSlongive it now, denis.11:09
linuxn00banyone?11:09
DenisGbah. Don't you have a little bit of humour? :/11:09
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SeveasDenisG, simply download the debfile, or the deb source11:10
amonkeyamaranth: installing...11:10
fabiohello ppl!11:10
Seveasso you can compile it too11:10
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hybrid_gothfabio: hi11:11
=== Seveas gone to bed now (11pm here) see ya!
DenisGyes, thanks, i will do that :)11:11
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excitondoes anyone in here know about temp shut downs? I am running kubuntu and and after a few mins it kills X and drops to a trem stating the the temp has reached 40C and the system is shuting down but I need to rase that because I have a hot running athlon xp thats safe to play up to the 60C range11:11
fabiohybrid goth, do u know why in some document like CHM's I keep seeing small squares with little numbers inside instead of characters, eg.: 0097 instead of - ??11:11
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dabaSlonexciton: you wanna monitor those, I think.11:12
hybrid_gothfabio: hmm maybe a interpertation error.. have you tried differnt fonts?11:12
dabaSlonyou using xchm?11:12
fabioexciton, have u got some BIOS setting for that?11:12
amonkeyamaranth: installing smeg fixed my duplicate folder, but there is a folder i want to delete that doesn't come up in smeg11:12
fabiodabaSlon, yes11:12
fabioI am11:12
Amaranthamonkey: whick folder is that?11:12
dabaSlonfabio: in what language settings?11:12
Amarantherr, which11:12
amonkeyTransgaming11:13
fabioI think UK English11:13
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amonkeyamaranth: it appeared after i upped to warty11:13
Amaranthamonkey: They use a legacy menu, there is no way to delete it with the new spec.11:13
amonkeyhoary rather11:13
fabiodabaSlon, I think UK English11:13
dabaSlonoh, ok...11:13
ompaulexciton, emm the way to deal with that is to include a working fan, it is a protection to safe the hardware from frying, there is no utility that I know that can deal with that - it is a hardware thing11:13
fabiodabaSlon, anyway I do I check it11:13
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excitonwhat I really need to do is rase the shut down temp to say 60C but I did not even know that linux could shut down do to heat shy of with a afaik acpi based temp sensor11:13
ompaulexciton, it is a/ it should be11:13
amonkeyamaranth: so i can't get rid of it?11:14
fabiohybrid_goth, thanks I could try that!11:14
poopinabootwhats the command for OOo that lets you select what kind of OOo project you want to start, like the generic one for all of them11:14
familyHello, I installed the MYSQL server according to the ubuntuguide.org, how can i see if its running and how can i test the connection to it so i can get amaroK working w/ it?11:15
excitonmy bios is set to warn at 155F and shut down at 160F but when kubuntu shuts it down the warn temp is not even reached11:15
hybrid_gothfabio: np hope it works11:15
Amaranthamonkey: Not without manual hackery. It should be in /home/<your username>/.gnome2/vfolders/applications11:15
fabiohybrid_goth, thank, will try just now, and see what happen :)11:15
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topylipoopinaboot: they're binaries called things like oowriter, oocalc, ooimpress11:15
fabiodabaSlon, do u know some solution?11:16
dabaSlonim just installing it now.11:16
dabaSlon:-p11:16
poopinaboottopyli: i think you misunderstood my question11:16
ompaulpoopinaboot, oomaster but tbh you can start anything from any started ooapplication11:16
topylioh, quite possibly :)11:16
poopinabootompaul: I know, I just want the basic one to query me as to what type of project I would like to begin11:16
familyIs anyone capable of answering my question :)?11:16
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amonkeyAmaranth: i deleted the point2play file in that folder, killed gnome-panel, but it's still there11:17
fabiofamily, what is it?11:17
familywhen I type this command in   mysqladmin -u root password <password> it says: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed11:17
ompaulpoopinaboot, ahh the shell script you are about to write, that is the correct command ... ;-)11:17
familyHello, I installed the MYSQL server according to the ubuntuguide.org, how can i see if its running and how can i test the connection to it so i can get amaroK working w/ it?11:17
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Amaranthamonkey: I don't know what to tell you. I know nothing about how the old system works.11:17
poopinabootompaul: lol, mmkay11:17
topylipoopinaboot: you want the dialog that asks you to open a template or create a new document?11:18
dabaSlonfabio: oh, yeah, I can see it.11:18
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poopinaboottopyli: ummm, sure11:18
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fabiodabaSlon, do u know some solution :)11:18
poopinabootahhh, oofromtemplate11:18
topyliyes11:18
poopinabootthats the prog, thanks for your help everyone :)11:18
fabiofamily, I dunno about amarok, about testing MySql u can always try <?php phpinfo() ?>11:19
poopinabootits easier than adding all the icons to my taskbar11:19
familyfabio: its not for a webserver11:19
fabiofamily, oh right, sorry then11:19
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amonkeyamaranth: thanks for your help11:20
dabaSlonI just saw it.11:20
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dabaSlon A fix would be to try to link these programs to wxgtk2.5 (unstable11:21
dabaSlondevelopment line) instead of 2.4, which I'v tried for xchm where it worked11:21
dabaSlonfine. The only needed change there was the Build-Depends line in the control11:21
dabaSlonfile.11:21
ompaulfamily, part of the question can be answered with type the following 'mysl'  after that type 'status' that will show if it is up and running11:21
dabaSlonin fact, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11167&highlight=xchm11:21
dabaSlonsorry11:22
familyompaul: how can i change the root password?11:22
Fackamatosudo passwd11:22
fabiodebaSlon, thanks will try and have a look at the link11:22
whyzoi, i heard that x-window-system-core isjust a meta package which is no use and can be uninstalled.. i'm asking this because i want to get rid of the mesa drivers, which forces me to remove x-window-system-core11:22
whyzbut then ubuntu-desktop depends on x-window-system-core11:23
familysry, root password for MySQL11:23
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topylipoopinaboot: ideally, you'd put some templates in the gnome Templates folder and use them :)11:23
ubuntuPIE:D11:23
ubuntuPIEhi11:23
ompaulfamily, I have not done it in so long .. I forget let me try to remember11:23
familynvm, i got it11:23
Amaranthamonkey: I'll figure out how that format works and might make a converter.11:23
familythanks for the help11:23
topylipoopinaboot: then just create new stuff from the desktop instead of launching apps11:23
ubuntuPIEthis live CD rocks!11:23
dabaSlonfabio: I am looking for the solution too:-p11:23
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makavelidoes anyone know where the lockscreen file is so that i can set a keybinding to it?11:24
Fator_Deewhyz: ubuntu-desktop is also a metapackage11:24
fabiodabaSlon, as the forum says, wxgtk2.5 is probably the solution11:25
fabiodabaSlon, but how to change them, via apt-get??11:25
whyzFator_Dee, so it's safe to just remove them too?11:25
dabaSlonhaha, I said I am reading it.11:26
fabiodabaSlon, ops sorry :)11:26
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dockanei checked the ubuntu user mailing list archive for my dma issue and found the advice to put ' amd74xx ' to  /etc/modules. imho this is the driver for the chipset (the guy who was experiencing smiliar problens run a nforce4 mainboard) but how do i find out which driver i should to /etc/modules ?11:26
dockane*add11:26
dabaSlonfabio: :) http://pastebin.com/28289011:27
makavelianyone know where the executable file is for lockscreen11:27
makavelii need to set a keybinding to it11:27
dabaSlonim looking...:)11:27
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fabiodabaSlon, thanks I am trying to use Synaptic to do the job and see what happen11:27
JormundgandWhat do I need to do to change the name of an account?11:27
makavelialso does anyone know how i would set a program to start up when the computer starts up?11:28
Burgundaviamakaveli, when you login or when it starts up?11:28
makaveliwhen i log in?11:29
makavelii need to load 3ddeskd when i login so i don't have to manually aquire my desktops11:29
ompaulfamily: mysqladmin - u root -p password <-- that is what you want11:29
Burgundaviaok, add it to your gnome session11:29
familyI got it, thanks11:29
Burgundaviasystem-->prefs-->sessions11:29
makavelihow do i do that11:29
fabiodabaSlon, thanks, but that's still confusing :P11:29
makavelisweet11:30
makavelithanks11:30
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dabaSlonfabio which, the forum? I just dont know where his "control" file is...for xchm11:30
makavelidid anyone find the location of lock screen?11:30
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dabaSlon The only needed change there was the Build-Depends line in the control file.11:31
dabaSlonhah, a treasure hunt.11:31
fabiodabaSlon, oh right, so how u done it exactly then, cos I am still new to it!11:31
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brunoba c pas cela11:32
brunotoujours rien11:32
brunoje vais le re installer..11:32
tritiumbruno, #ubuntu-fr11:33
K_Dallasbruno: join #ubuntu-fr11:33
dabaSlonfabio, I am trying to figure it out too...:)11:33
K_Dallaswhich is an 18+ chan btw ;)11:33
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fabiodabaSlon, kk, yes, cos I am trying to see where Build Depends is11:33
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besianwhat terminal does ubuntu use?11:33
brunoPreconfiguring packages ...11:33
bruno(Lecture de la base de donnes... 59121 fichiers et rpertoires dj installs.)Prparation du remplacement de mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr 1.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1 (en utilisant .../mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr_1.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1_all.deb) ...11:33
brunoDpaquetage de la mise  jour de mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr ...11:33
brunoParamtrage de mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr (1.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1) ...11:33
drfanaticIjoin #ubuntu.de11:33
dabaSlonso you know which file is the control one?11:34
K_Dallasbruno, yoohoo?11:34
dabaSlondrfanatic: lol...11:34
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brunosorry11:34
brunoit is a mistake11:34
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K_Dallas;)11:34
dabaSlonit is a mistake11:34
besianwhat terminal does ubuntu use?11:34
dabaSlon:)11:34
dabaSlon711:34
Jormundgandbesian: gnome-terminal.11:34
K_Dallasbesian: isnt it gnome-term11:34
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besianok thank you :D11:34
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makaveli?11:34
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fluideyeanyone know why during boot i get pcmcia cant find power supply looped over and over (about 2 minutes) before it moves on and finishes loading11:36
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brunobye11:36
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sladenfluideye: nope.  Please report it as a bug11:36
mirakhi11:36
mirakis it possible to do an install from the live cd ?11:36
Rubinwhere are the vt's configured?11:36
K_Dallasmirak: no11:36
sladenmirak: in the next version, it will be11:37
fluideyesladen  it happened after configuring wifi11:37
mirakah11:37
mirakok11:37
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mirakcan I do an install from a warty cd ?11:37
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mirakan upgrade after ?11:37
mirakand11:37
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thoreauputiccould someone on Hoary using xchat (2.4.1) confirm or denu that the /lastlog <nick> command fails ? I can'y get it to work with any user including a test default config user...11:37
sladenfluideye: if you file a bug, you can put all the details in one place and the person who knows about it can follow it up with you.  It will be a very specific problem relating to that PCMCIA card and that model of laptop.11:37
fluideyesladen thanks11:38
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thoreauputicI meant "deny" of course :)11:38
sladenfluideye: and will likely require a workaround11:38
sladenmirak: yes, you can install from a warty CD and upgrade11:38
fluideyesladen another question: how do i check on my sound card, it's detected but know volume11:38
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nufanHello11:39
blakehow can i not be an owner of a folder if i am the only one on my computer!!!!! SOMEONE?11:40
NintendudHi, I just have a quick question... if I installed ubuntu on a partition on a hard drive with fedora core 3 already installed, would it automatically recognize the partition so I could access the files, or do I need to do something special? also, will I be able to boot into both OS's after the install?11:40
blakei want to own all of them11:40
ompaulblake, that is not the way of gnu/linux/ubuntu11:40
fabioNintendud, I did the same but I lost Fedora11:41
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blakeok well how do i create a file in that folder?11:41
nufanNintendud: I believe you'll have to add the partition yourself11:41
dabaSlonblake, there is root...and apache, so tht apache can only get to some folders...11:41
Nintendudfabio: could you access the files?11:41
blakein root or sudo11:41
dabaSlonthrought the web server.11:41
ompaulblake, which directory are you referring to?11:41
fabioNintendud, nope :(11:41
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nufanmount -t11:41
Nintendudnufan: can you tell me how so I can do it right after the install?11:41
yann_hi all11:41
Nintendudmount -t? it's that simple?11:41
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nufanSort of11:41
fabioNintendud, try to do a partition in Fedora before installing Ubuntu11:41
blakei'm refering to the one that it didn't create for the files to go into11:41
yann_i've a problem with cedega and steam11:41
nufanmount -t /dev/hda(num) /mnt/fed11:42
yann_anyone can help me ?11:42
fabioNintendud, try QParted, I think it is alright11:42
ompaulblake, that does not make sense to me, can you try to explain it another way?11:42
nufanYou'll have to create /mnt/fed11:42
Nintendudfabio: all I need to do is be able to access the files11:42
blakeit says it needs to be /var/www/foo/bar/index.html11:42
Fator_Deeyann_: you might get bette help from #cedega11:42
NintendudI'm not going to overwrite the fedora partition11:42
nufanAnd the /dev/hda(num) refers to the partition number11:42
edgordonI need to sort of kid-proof a single user in a new ubuntu install. Is there a package that helps set this up? I am mainly concerned about limiting the apps the user can use.11:42
blakebut it only goes to www11:42
Nintendudnufan: thanks11:42
blakei need to create the folder foo, and bar11:43
fabioNintendud, u mean after u install Ubuntu?11:43
yann_Fator_Dee, oki and on which server ?11:43
NintendudI'll probably install ubuntu tonight ^_^11:43
Fator_Deeyann_: this11:43
yann_lol ok11:43
yann_thx11:43
blakebut somehow i found the index file11:43
ompaulblake, foo bar are examples, they are not intended to be taken literally11:43
fabioNintendud, Ubuntu is pretty quick comparing to Fedora, it took 15mins on my budget pc nad I am a beginner !!11:43
blakeand it's not in the fo/bar directory11:43
blakeoooh11:43
blakewell11:43
thr1cehaha11:43
thr1cetry installing crux11:43
nufanNintendud: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2520011:43
blakemyapache says it will be that11:43
Nintendudnufan: thanks for the help!11:44
blakeThe default directory index is index.html, meaning that requests for a directory /foo/bar/ will give the contents of the file /var/www/foo/bar/index.html if it exists (assuming that /var/www is your DocumentRoot).11:44
nufanI'm on a mac, but I'm certain it's exacty the same process11:44
Nintendudfabio: yeah I'm switching to ubuntu because of the speed.. I'm on a Pentium II 400 mHz11:44
thr1ceNintendud, you should run another distro without gnome11:44
fabioNintendud, you will gain11:44
blakeso your saying that that's not my document root/11:44
blakesomething else is?11:44
fabioNintendud, a lot of speed11:44
Nintendudthr1ce: why without gnome?11:45
NintendudI'm running windows xp with this thing11:45
thr1ceit's a resource hog11:45
fabiothr1che, why?>11:45
blakeand where ever my document root s is where that index file is??11:45
Nintendudso I'm pretty sure gnome would be fast11:45
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Nintendudand isn't gnome faster than KDE?11:45
thr1ceor try xfce, that's a great blend11:45
Nintendudxfce is nice11:45
blakeis that correct?11:45
NintendudI used it.11:45
fabioNintendud, I like gnome too11:45
ompaulblake, the document root is specified in the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf11:45
Fator_DeeNintendud: xfce would be a better choice regarding speed11:45
Fator_Deeand it's good also11:45
thr1ceNintendud, um...depends on the compile; I personally prefer kde to gnome, but either one is getting very nice and developed11:45
NintendudFator_Dee: yeah I know11:45
nufanIs it possible to install Fedora 4 onto an external hard drive and keep Ubuntu on my internal hard drive?11:45
thr1cexfce being my personal favorite; they did HUGE improvements to XFCE 4.211:46
shinuwhy cant i do ls *.txt?11:46
shinuit says: ls: invalid option -- e11:46
ompaulShinu you can11:46
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fabioshinu, strange11:46
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ubuntuPIEls -e?11:46
trandomSorry to just butt in like this : but can someone point me in the direction of a good beginners site or something to help me get to grips with linux??11:46
blakei have apache 2 so it might be diffrent11:46
blakei mena11:46
blakeapache 111:46
thoreauputicshinu: try ls -b *.txt11:46
ubuntuPIE:P11:47
lamontshinu: you have a file named '-e*.txt'11:47
thr1cetrandom, break things, then learn how to fix them11:47
lamonttry ls -- *.txt11:47
Burgundaviatrandom, what kind of help do you need?11:47
nufantrandow: ubuntuguide.org11:47
ompaulblake, well have look for httpd.conf then11:47
trandomit's not much help11:47
ubuntuPIEls -- -e*.txt11:47
thoreauputicshinu, one of your files has a weird name11:47
shinuow yes...11:47
trandomi need to know how to compile stuff etc...11:47
shinusorry for that...11:47
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shinuhad a file named -name.......11:47
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shinuthanks a lot :D11:47
ubuntuPIE:>11:47
shinuthanks lamont ^^11:48
lamonttrandom: you looking for a beginning linux developers guide, or a linux users guide?11:48
xet7trandom: for ubuntu specific faqs:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org11:48
lamont(no need to compile stuff to just use the thing...)11:48
Burgundaviatrandom, why do you need to compile stuff?11:48
fabioGuys, does anyone know what this file is: Build-Depends line in the control11:48
fabiofile. on xchm??11:48
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trandomwell... things like bittornado for example11:48
lamontfabio: ??11:48
trandomthey dont just run themselves11:48
fabiolamont, sorry, I mean the control file11:48
lamonttrandom: add universe, and it's probably there - everything else is...11:48
trandomor at least i cant get it to...11:48
lamontfabio: you trying to understand what a Build-Depends line means, or a particular instance of one?11:49
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blakei found it11:49
blakeand it's in the same place as you said11:49
k31thyo...11:49
fabiolamont, i have got a little prob with xchm, it displays little squares instead of characters, e.g 0097 instead of - so I tried thos fourm:11:50
fabiolamont, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11167&highlight=xchm11:50
lamonttrandom: but outside of the ubuntu faqs, not sure where to point you11:50
fabiolamont, but is not very clear11:50
ubuntuPIEwhat is the default root password on the liveCD?11:50
trandomi'll look through them11:50
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trandomis ubuntu much like other distos?11:51
trandomor is it much different?11:51
ubuntuPIEits linux11:51
jp_try it.11:51
ubuntuPIEthe liveCD rocks11:51
lamontfabbione: Build-Depends in the control file is a statement of what packages must be installed in order to build this pacakge.11:51
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timmowtrandom: have you been to tldp.org?11:51
lamontthe build daemons automatically install things to meet the build-depends, etc.11:51
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Burgundaviatrandom, very similar to other ngome distros11:51
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stormy73034ok i apt-get tightvnc on my ubuntu pc now where can i configure it at11:51
trandomkl11:52
lamontubuntuPIE: there is no root password on the liveCD - that account is locked.11:52
lamontas is the ubuntu account11:52
nufanCan you install linux on an external hard drive?11:52
fabiolamont, any good?11:52
lamontubuntuPIE: and sudo gets you to root without a password.11:52
lamontfabio:???11:52
hybrid_gothnufan: yea11:52
fabiolamont, I explained my prob, any solution?11:53
lamontfabio: if the package requires anything beyond build-essential packages, it will never get into the archive until the build-depends line is correct.  So yeah, it's a good thing.11:53
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lamontfabio: ah, you're missing some unicode font packages, would be my guess.11:53
lamontnfc which ones though11:53
fabiolamont, oh right! Where do I get them>11:53
lamontSystem -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager11:54
nufanhybrid_goth: any help?11:54
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lamontfabio: but, like I said, I have no clue what package you need to install...11:54
fabiolamont, thanks,  so then have to look for fonts perhaps...!!11:54
andreuhello11:54
nufanMy current plan is to install FC4 on external and have yaboot recognise the external hard disk11:55
trandomhow do you add packages to the package manager???11:55
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thoreauputicfabio: try running  apt-cache search unicode | grep fonts11:55
timmowtrandom: what do you want to add?11:55
poopinabootanyone know how to get a printable blank calendar?11:55
thoreauputicfabio: there seem to be a few packages there11:55
trandomtimmow, bittornado11:55
timmowtrandom: you don't add packages as such, more locations of where to get packages from11:55
hybrid_gothnufan: what do you want too do11:56
trandomtimmow, but how?11:56
timmowtrandom: on ubuntuguide.org enable extra repositories11:56
hybrid_gothnufan: juss set your bios to boot from usb then install linux on it11:56
poopinabootanyone?11:56
fabiothoreauputic, thanks I will try11:56
DenisGpoopinaboot: ever used LaTeX?11:56
poopinabootDenisG: no, what is it?11:57
nufanhybrid: Install FC4 on an external hard disk (firewire)11:57
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DenisGah, well, it is a typesetting software package that can print calendars with the correct settings11:57
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DenisGthough its very complex as it is very powerfull11:57
andreuhello, its posible copy data dvd with gnomebaker?11:57
timmowtrandom: also http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ because i think i remember the ubuntu bittorrent package is broken11:57
DenisGyou might want to look for another solution for your problem first.11:58
hybrid_gothnufan: yes then set your bios to boot off firewire11:58
hybrid_gothnufan: if they can11:58
trandomtimmow, ah ha11:58
trandomtimmow, cheers m811:58
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darkauditstorm getting closer... shutting down...11:58

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