[12:00] <micon> DaBlade, were in the same boat.. no one will help us
[12:00] <flodine> why
[12:00] <LinuxJones> DaBlade, what app are you tring to install, sorry I just joined
[12:00] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: Transcode
[12:00] <lampshade> micon, what's the problem?  I might be able to
[12:00] <DaBlade> micon: indeed
[12:00] <psychonate> What permissions do I need to put on a mount point so that, when I mount a drive there, my normal user will have full permissions on all of the files/dirs on that drive?
[12:00] <[blue] > kent: because if i use lsusb, i have 2 devices.. my usb mouse and something called microdia.
[12:00] <micon> lampshade, when im trying to install ubuntu, after i hit enter at the boot screen, it says a few lines, then goes to an all black screen
[12:00] <micon> with a bunch of stuff
[12:00] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: It's a core dependency of perl-video-dvdrip(dvd::rip)
[12:00] <LinuxJones> DaBlade, your trying to get dvdrip installed ?
[12:01] <DaBlade> yup
[12:01] <ryman> something is wrong with firefox
[12:01] <ryman> it keeps crashing
[12:01] <[blue] > kent: that should be the webcam
[12:01] <micon> and at the bottom is says <............DSDT... initrd  not found
[12:01] <LinuxJones> DaBlade, as far as I can remember it has been broken for about 4 months :(
[12:01] <lampshade> psychonate, if you feel like it, you could just chmod 777 it
[12:01] <flodine> lampshade why not
[12:01] <DaBlade> It worked fine on Fedora :(
[12:02] <lampshade> flodine, why not what?  run fluxbox now?  Cause I'm ahppy with gnome so far.  That's all
[12:02] <micon> lampshade, any ideas?
[12:02] <makiley> rver ww.irc-hispano.org
[12:02] <klexys> does anyone know how to mount an scsi drive (fs: ntfs) at startup?
[12:02] <lampshade> micon, does the livecd do the same thing, do you happen to know?
[12:02] <micon> lampshade, no i dont know.
[12:02] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  it's just the Debian packages in Mirillate repos
[12:02] <micon> but i dont have the connection to download the livecd.
[12:03] <micon> i had my friend burn me a install cd from the website
[12:03] <psychonate> lampshade, I still can't create files in some of the directories. I think the permissions are a bit messed up because I was using this drive on another box.
[12:03] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: Is there any way whatsoever to get it installed?
[12:03] <psychonate> lampshade, Should I try to chown the directories first?
[12:03] <DaBlade> I gotta get transcode in. I mean, if it works on the king of dependencies, Fedora, it must work on Kubuntu
[12:03] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  let me ss if I can find another repo for you
[12:04] <DaBlade> okay thanks :)
[12:04] <LinuxJones> see*
[12:04] <dead^^> Gatton: fcuk, I must sound annoying, but I tried to install w32codecs on command dpkg -i w32codecs.deb, but my Totem-player just freezes and says later on that "you must install corrcect plugins" or something like that :P. I'm sorry, I really must get on you're nerves right now, but could you guide me how to install the plugins?
[12:05] <lampshade> psychonate, well chmod 777 should give everyone all permissions.  It is the least secure but the most useful when being quick and dirty with permissions.  What may be happening is that the lower folders, etc aren't getting the correct perms.  I would do an ls -l in the directory and see what the perms are for the files  see if you have rw (read and write) where it needs to be
[12:05] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  check out this link from apt-get.org >> http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=dvdrip&submit=&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all
[12:05] <DaBlade> dead^^, I can help you out
[12:05] <DaBlade> but first do apt-get install alien
[12:05] <Aladdin> BigJG, oh my god bg I went trought that.  that's why I fellback on prure-ftpd gui nterface
[12:06] <psychonate> lampshade, the lower dirs are drwxrwxr-x, but if I chown them, it works alright after that. RIght now the owner and group are 501/501
[12:06] <dead^^> DaBlade: ok
[12:06] <BigJG> there is a gui interface for pure-ftp?
[12:06] <BigJG> Aladdin: there is a gui interface fore pure-ftp?
[12:06] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  btw, they are not Ubuntu packages but might work ok for you :)
[12:06] <BigJG> Aladdin: yea this one is a bit confusing
[12:07] <Aladdin> yep
[12:07] <DaBlade> dead^^, then do alien --to-deb on the packages here: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
[12:07] <DaBlade> Thanks, LinuxJones :D
[12:07] <Aladdin> BigJG, yep
[12:07] <Aladdin> doesn't work home :(
[12:07] <svart> How do i play movies with the live cd?
[12:08] <DaBlade> dead^^: Those w32codecs packages work
[12:08] <DaBlade> svart, are you norwegian?
[12:08] <svart> nope.. swedish
[12:08] <[blue] > hmm
[12:08] <DaBlade> Figured. Svart means black in norwegian too ;)
[12:08] <svart> sure does..
[12:08] <Aladdin> http server works good tought, I got Mambo installed (php portal, and a cool one)
[12:08] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: But I need Transcode first. It's the main dep
[12:08] <xiaogil> I have a local web server on a wifi laptop, a friend of mine would to log on it without going through the internet (he has a wifi laptop too). Is that possible with Ubuntu ?
[12:09] <BigJG> Aladdin: mambo is the server or a portal for it
[12:09] <Aladdin> BigJG, BigJG, oh my god bg I went trought that.  that's why I fellback on prure-ftpd gui nterface
[12:09] <Aladdin> it's a portal
[12:09] <[blue] > the usb webcam module is loaded but i dont have /dev/v4l2 entry
[12:09] <sobersabre> has anybody had problems with skype ( echo/delay effects ) ?
[12:09] <BigJG> Aladdin: you using apache for the server then?
[12:09] <Aladdin> server is genie-server.redirectme.neet
[12:09] <[blue] > does anyonw know how to fix that ?
[12:09] <Aladdin> server is genie-server.redirectme.net
[12:09] <sobersabre> both skypers use headset
[12:09] <Aladdin> BigJG, server is genie-server.redirectme.net
[12:09] <dead^^> DaBlade: thanks. I'll try it and if it doesn't work, I'll hang myself to ceiling =). I'm kinda ashamed to ask such dumb questions on here. and my english at least terrible =)
[12:10] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  if you add one of those repos to your /etc/apt/sources.lst it should have a working transcode included as a dependency.
[12:10] <sobersabre> one is windows, other linux 1.0.0.3
[12:10] <svart> anyway.. i try to load a movie from my hardrive but i get an "Unknown error" message from Totem
[12:10] <mdke> anyone used multi-aterm? i'm interested in finding a good xterminal which is fast and hopefully has tab support too. Anyone help me out?
[12:10] <lampshade> svart, you might not have the correct codecs, did you install the codecs already?
[12:10] <ryman> how do I upgrade to the newest version of FireFox ? My firefox keeps crashing for no reason
[12:11] <DaBlade> dead^^: Actually, you were lucky I was here. (shameless of me to say lol). I was using Fedora Core before I switched here. those are packs for it
[12:11] <svart> how do i install codecs when running from livecd?
[12:11] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: Thanks
[12:11] <Aladdin> BigJG, apache 2 prefork
[12:11] <Aladdin> with php and sql enabled
[12:12] <Aladdin> BigJG, with php and sql enabled
[12:12] <Aladdin> ubuntu default :o)
[12:12] <Aladdin> BigJG, ubuntu default
[12:13] <Aladdin> BigJG, and yeah I know it's in french :)
[12:13] <sbcl3_> goldfish: did you ever find out anything?
[12:13] <BigJG> lol
[12:13] <Aladdin> BigJG, french canadian, quebec, canada
[12:14] <dabaSlon> wionnipeg
[12:14] <Dreamer3> ok, i have modprobed lt_modem and lt_serial, but i don't know where to go from there?
[12:14] <goldfish> sbcl3_: nope, the command to do that is uname, but i dont think u can specify it to work for a certain directory, i think that works for ALL files you create.
[12:14] <goldfish> sbcl3_: prolly best to run the chmod -R command.
[12:14] <BigJG> Aladdin:  it looks like with pure-ftpd it still requires a real user to be created for virtual user permissions
[12:15] <goldfish> sbcl3_: maybe you could set up a cron job to execute the chmod command on the directory for you
[12:15] <sbcl3_> goldfish: isn't that what i did?
[12:15] <goldfish> yep
[12:15] <Jimmothy> i'm having a problem. i have BMP and it refuses to be killed in the process manager. it's listed as beep-media-play but has no path.
[12:15] <Aladdin> BigJG, ok let'me check
[12:15] <sbcl3_> linus really needs to fix that...
[12:15] <goldfish> sbcl3_: i thought u wanted it for new folders created it in the directory?
[12:15] <BigJG> Aladdin: its giving me errors when i try to manage users in the gui
[12:16] <sbcl3_> yes
[12:16] <goldfish> hehe
[12:16] <sbcl3_> i want to keep my files in /sbcl3
[12:16] <lampshade> psychonate, I didn't see others with write permission.  That's probably why.  Once you chown it to say user then user is the owner and owner has rwx permissions according to what you listed.  See if a chmod a+w  file let's you mod that file, save it, etc
[12:16] <Aladdin> BigJG, me too.... can't find configuration file
[12:16] <sbcl3_> because /home/sbcl3 has lots of hidden folders i like to configure
[12:16] <Dreamer3> anyone is there any quick ubuntu ltmodem how-to?
[12:16] <goldfish> Dreamer3: ubuntuguide.org ?
[12:17] <Dreamer3> goldfish: doesn't seem to be lt_modem info there
[12:17] <Aladdin> BigJG, me too.... and PureFTPD not running!
[12:17] <sbcl3_> goldfish: as i'm the owner it seems to work fine...
[12:17] <Aladdin> BigJG, and it's not :o(
[12:17] <goldfish> sbcl3_: I thought you meant, that each time you created a folder in that directory you wanted it to have a certain permission.
[12:18] <goldfish> ok, i think i should go to bed.
[12:18] <BigJG> Aladdin: was that website yours?
[12:18] <goldfish> I'm confising things :/
[12:18] <goldfish> *confusing
[12:18] <psychonate> lampshade, I just did a 'chown -R psychonate;psychonate' to get it working alright, but I think a chmod a+w probably would've worked too
[12:18] <psychonate> lampshade, I think the user and group were foreign anyway, so it was nice to change them
[12:18] <Aladdin> BigJG, genie-server.redirectme.net?  yeah
[12:18] <Aladdin> why?
[12:19] <Aladdin> BigJG, why?
[12:19] <dabaSlon> Jimmothy: do a killall bmp if that is the process name in a terminal
[12:19] <BigJG> Aladdin: looking good :) if only i could read it :D
[12:19] <Aladdin> BigJG, !!!!!!
[12:19] <BigJG> Aladdin: lol
[12:19] <Aladdin> BigJG, oh.. hehe freench... I know. sorry
[12:20] <Jimmothy> dabaSlon: it isn';t working. the process has no path
[12:20] <dabaSlon> just a sec, I happen to have one bmp running.
[12:20] <Aladdin> BigJG, oh.. well register.. I will translate your articles :o)
[12:21] <Aladdin> BigJG, oh.. well register.. I will translate your articles personnaly :o)
[12:21] <chris__> how does one make bash ring the bell
[12:21] <Dreamer3> i've modprobed the lt_modem and lt_serial, but i don't think there is a device in /dev, am i missing something?
[12:21] <BigJG> Aladdin: lmao
[12:21] <BigJG> Aladdin: ill register
[12:21] <chris__> Dreamer3, is ur modem a winmodem?
[12:21] <BigJG> Aladdin: and http://geekspeek.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=35
[12:21] <Aladdin> BigJG, lmao?
[12:21] <Dreamer3> chris__: yes, it's supported with the lt_modem driver
[12:21] <chris__> o
[12:21] <BigJG> Aladdin: means i am happy
[12:21] <chris__> how does one make bash ring the bell
[12:21] <Dreamer3> chris__: i modprobed it find (dmesg), but don't know how to get wvdial to talk to it
[12:21] <Aladdin> BigJG, k :o)
[12:22] <Aladdin> BigJG, that's your home?: http://geekspeek.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=35
[12:22] <ghais> hello guys, how do i figure what parameter to pass to mplayer to select video output device?
[12:22] <lampshade> pdf's open sooo much faster on linux.  It always blows my mind
[12:22] <dabaSlon> Jimmothy: killall beep-media-play
[12:22] <chris__> 4 my question, i just want to echo \a or whatever... how do i do this
[12:22] <BigJG> Aladdin: no, it is a tutorial for pure-ftpd
[12:22] <BigJG> Aladdin: im reading it now
[12:22] <svart> does anyone have any ideas as to how i migth play movies using totem on the livecd?
[12:23] <Aladdin> oh! lol
[12:23] <dabaSlon> ghais: I dont, but man mplayer does, if you feel like reading.
[12:23] <ghais> the thing is what ever i pass, mplayer fails to open
[12:23] <mdke> ghais, -vo i think
[12:23] <mdke> wb ogra
[12:23] <ghais> dabaSlon: i did -vo but i need to specify a device
[12:23] <lampshade> svart, you can probably only play movies that don't use any fancy codecs.  movies that need divx, etc will require you to install those codecs which I don't know exactly how you do with the livecd.  or if it is possible
[12:23] <mdke> ghais, xv is good
[12:23] <ogra> hey mdke
[12:23] <svart> damn..
[12:23] <mdke> y0
[12:23] <ghais> dabaSlon: and which ever one i pass the system fails to open
[12:24] <mdke> ghais, check the error and google it
[12:24] <ghais> mdke: i will do that
[12:25] <svart> i cant play mp3s either.. Is the LiveCD really that crippled?
[12:25] <svart> Musicplayer says: "No module for format: mp3"
[12:25] <mdke> svart, it doesn't have mp3 support
[12:26] <mdke> svart, Ubuntu in general does not ship with mp3 support
[12:26] <k31th> e
[12:26] <svart> true.. that fraunhofer something..
[12:27] <k31th> ] 
[12:27] <svart> and i cant to connect to the repositories..
[12:27] <chris__> how does one make bash ring the bell
[12:27] <ben__> Is there any graphical utility in Ubuntu to control which services are active in their respective runlevels?
[12:27] <mdke> svart, but if you install Ubuntu you can get mp3 support yourself
[12:27] <svart> and i cant to connect to the repositories.. using Synaptic...
[12:28] <mdke> svart, using the live cd?
[12:28] <svart> yepp
[12:28] <mdke> Be BaCk LaTeR
[12:28] <Aladdin> BigJG, OK well since you're a new frind.  My MSN thing is aladdin_genieserver@hotmail.com  please feel free to greet!
[12:28] <svart> of course.. this is the warty livecd..
[12:29] <k31th> right with MySQL if someone opens a record, is that record locked by the first person that opens it , so that others cant write to it at the same time as you ?
[12:29] <Aladdin> BigJG, I will fallback on proftpd.  It's got to have a config file preconfigured soemwhere!
[12:29] <svart> has the archive been renamed to hoary and warty been taken offline.. Im connecting to archive.ubuntu.com/warty or something like that..
[12:30] <Aladdin> BigJG, Take care. Aladdin  (poof!)
[12:30] <BigJG> Aladdin: yea these are pretty confusing at first, im going to stick w/ pure for a bit and see what happens
[12:30] <BigJG> Aladdin: i added you to msn so hope u see it
[12:30] <goldfish> lol
[12:30] <ryman> can someone help me with install firefox 1.0.3 ?
[12:30] <goldfish> ryman: don't think u can get it for hoary.
[12:30] <goldfish> if you are on hoary.
[12:30] <ryman> hmm why not ?
[12:30] <lotusleaf> goldfish: not even from mozilla's site?
[12:30] <goldfish> no idea.
[12:31] <ryman> I downloaded it from www.getfirefox.com
[12:31] <goldfish> oh ok.
[12:31] <goldfish> Why are you upgrading if you dont mind me asking?
[12:31] <ryman> my firefox keep crashing
[12:31] <goldfish> k
[12:31] <ryman> and I think there is some security issue on firefox
[12:31] <goldfish> yeah
[12:31] <goldfish> there is on in the new version aswell
[12:31] <adb22791> hi
[12:31] <goldfish> *one
[12:31] <goldfish> adb22791: hello
[12:31] <ryman> I read it somewhere on the news
[12:31] <goldfish> ryman: what format is the file in?
[12:31] <adb22791> hey I need some help
[12:31] <adb22791> with the Live cd
[12:32] <ryman> taz.gz
[12:32] <goldfish> ryman: yeah there is, there is some on the new version aswell.
[12:32] <adb22791> can anyone point me to live cd documentation?
[12:32] <ryman> my firefox keep crashing
[12:32] <svart> mdke, the thing is that my computer is in a state of almost no functionality. I've had a disk crash, my rats bit of the keyboard cable and my cddrive sounds like it is grinding coffe.. Im just waiting for my new and shiny and shiny and shiny mac to arrive
[12:33] <svart> and i would really like to watch some movies rigth now :)
[12:33] <goldfish> ryman: well you need to unpack the tar, tar xvzf blah.tar.gz
[12:33] <goldfish> em then i think it's ./configure && make
[12:33] <goldfish> i'm not sure
[12:33] <adb22791> can someone please point me to Live CD documentation
[12:34] <goldfish> adb22791: emm, tried the ubuntu website?
[12:34] <micon> god damnit
[12:34] <dabaSlon> adb22791: whats up?
[12:34] <micon> what why the fuck am i getting stuck at this screen
[12:34] <ryman> goldfish do you have the link to the firefox news ?
[12:34] <goldfish> ryman: the vunerabilities?
[12:35] <ryman> goldfish, yes
[12:36] <goldfish> ryman: http://securityfocus.com/archive/1/397747/2005-05-07/2005-05-13/0
[12:36] <goldfish> uck wrong link
[12:36] <goldfish> sorry
[12:36] <goldfish> it's on bugtraq somewhere
[12:37] <goldfish> ryman: http://securityfocus.com
[12:37] <goldfish> have a browse there
[12:38] <ryman> goldfish, thanks
[12:39] <ryman> goldfish, found it http://securityfocus.com/news/11119
[12:39] <goldfish> ryman: hehe, sorry , i couldnt see it :)
[12:40] <adb22791> hi
[12:40] <adb22791> I need help
[12:41] <hyphenated> has anyone here set up the ATI driver with TV-out on ubuntu, and know of a good guide for it? google found plenty of guides, but some seem outdated/not for xorg/etc and I don't know what a good one is :-)
[12:41] <adb22791> Does anyone know any good documentation sites for the Live CD?
[12:41] <goldfish> adb22791: What's wrong?
[12:41] <hyphenated> adb22791: what kind of documentation?
[12:42] <adb22791> i just want to know more about running the Live CD
[12:42] <adb22791> like how to save preferences and all that
[12:42] <adb22791> It's been great so far
[12:43] <adb22791> can anybody help me>
[12:43] <adb22791> ?
[12:43] <hyphenated> adb22791: your question is too vague, and the live cd isn't well-documented
[12:43] <crimsun> adb22791: there isn't much in the way of specific documentation for the live cd(s)
[12:43] <crimsun> adb22791: most of what applies to an installed Ubuntu distro will apply also to the live cd
[12:45] <bthornton> For some reason, Synaptic all-the-sudden is asking me to insert at CD-ROM into the drive when preforming updates over the Internet.  Any clue how to fix this?
[12:45] <bthornton> I'm not even sure what caused it--I *just* did a system update over the 'net.
[12:45] <goldfish> bthornton: remove the line containing cd in sources.list
[12:45] <goldfish> bthornton: well, comment it out
[12:46] <dabaSlon> damn...I opened an HP computer as we are speaking, and that baby is packed...
[12:46] <bthornton> goldfish: Will do; thanks
[12:46] <dabaSlon> its tottaly full
[12:47] <hybrid_goth> umm this may be the wrong channel and if so plz someone redirect me but how do i veiw the source of a closed source program i.e. if i have the prog in my computer what can i do to see it
[12:47] <dabaSlon> crimsun: or others, for that matter...how should I go about determining if a hard drive is malfunctioning?
[12:47] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: an .exe ?
[12:47] <hybrid_goth> yes
[12:47] <goldfish> you coud dissasemble it
[12:47] <goldfish> *could
[12:48] <crimsun> dabaSlon: dmesg spew regarding your disk controller
[12:48] <goldfish> any good at assembly hybrid_goth ?
[12:48] <dabaSlon> crimsun: In english...;)
[12:48] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: how would i go about doin that
[12:48] <crimsun> dabaSlon: and if you're using a HD with s.m.a.r.t. enabled, the smartd logs
[12:48] <dabaSlon> it has nothing installed at this time.
[12:48] <hybrid_goth> no
[12:49] <crimsun> dabaSlon: prior to a drive succumbing, there usually are tons of errors in dmesg regarding the drive
[12:49] <FAR> Anyone know how to sort the KDE menu items ?
[12:49] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: is that the only way possible
[12:49] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: don't know
[12:49] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: sorry :(
[12:49] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: ok ty
[12:50] <La_PaRCa> hey kids. Does anyone know if the shipit cds for hoary have been shipped?
[12:50] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: np
[12:50] <Burgundavia> La_PaRCa, some have
[12:50] <dabaSlon> oh, ok, I get it...I have a hard drive that is not doing anything at this time...I want to install a windows on it...Now...I want to find out why have my previous attempts at installing it failed. Do you think I should just put the hard drive into my computer, test if it works in there, and then put it back and go from there?
[12:50] <psychonate> aw, this is unpleasant :(
[12:50] <La_PaRCa> Ok, just asking, because the shipit page hasnt been updated
[12:50] <psychonate> asciijump is super fun, but whenever I set a new hill record, it crashes :(
[12:50] <dabaSlon> and by not doing anything...I mean it has nothing on it.
[12:50] <chris_ubuntu> I have a bag full of PCI modems.  How can I find which ones will be easily recognized by ubuntu?
[12:51] <Burgundavia> chris_ubuntu, try them all?
[12:51] <Burgundavia> chris_ubuntu, it would also be great hardware testing
[12:51] <Burgundavia> chris_ubuntu, basically, file bug reports for each that doesn't work
[12:51] <hybrid_goth> anyone know how i can take apart or view the source of a .exe?
[12:52] <awb4422> I've noticed that ffmpeg isn't compiled with xvid... is there a way to enable it without having to compile from source?
[12:52] <dabaSlon> there is no source in it, it is compiled.
[12:52] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, you can decompile
[12:52] <chris_ubuntu> Burgundavia, I have to be more time efficient than that.  Do you know of a listing of hardware vs winmodems which I can ref?
[12:52] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: how would i do that
[12:52] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, no idea, google it
[12:52] <FAR> Dreamer3:  any luck with your modem? I was checkin' out http://www.linmodems.org/ and used their scanmodem tool which recommended i try out the slamr module
[12:52] <hybrid_goth> lol
[12:52] <hybrid_goth> ok
[12:52] <Burgundavia> chris_ubuntu, you might try googling the chipset
[12:53] <dabaSlon> ok, I am about to switch the monitors, so, Ill be a while before I get back, anyone have any advice, about what I had said earlier?
[12:53] <FAR> Dreamer3:  i had tried to install that before from synaptic but it kept failing so i downloaded and compiled the latest one from their site
[12:53] <dabaSlon> ok, here goes.
[12:53] <dead^^> i have a problem with installing w32codecs. i've tried different commands and different packages, but nothing seems to work >:'(
[12:54] <crimsun> dead^^: paste in #flood the errors
[12:54] <Burgundavia> dead^^, you have done the stuff at www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats?
[12:54] <Burgundavia> dead^^, sorry www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:54] <willis> has anyone gotten beagle from the breezy repositories to work?  or is there some inotify inconsistancy
[12:55] <Burgundavia> willis, i have
[12:55] <willis> BurgerMann, 2.6.10? or 2.6.12
[12:55] <msbender> hello, i have a problem with blurry fonts on my LCD display on my notebook, anybody who could help?
[12:56] <crimsun> msbender: did you configure System>Preferences>Fonts?
[12:56] <FAR> msbender: u using kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[12:56] <FAR> msbender:  i had the same problem with cleartype so i just disabled it
[12:56] <rhys-hynaws> hey how do I run setenv ?
[12:56] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: you don't by default, you use export
[12:57] <msbender> so far i've only tried ubuntu live, the same problem was under kanotix...
[12:57] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: bash is the default shell, not [t] ch
[12:57] <crimsun> [t] csh, rather
[12:57] <dabaSlon> export VAR='value'
[12:57] <rhys-hynaws> OH thank you
[12:57] <FAR> msbender:  sorry, i meant "anti-aliasing"
[12:57] <FAR> msbender:  try to disable it and see if that makes it any better
[12:58] <msbender> FAR: can you tell me how i can turn this off, i'm not in ubuntu now but will try later
[12:59] <FAR> msbender:  not sure about Gnome cause i'm using KDE, but like crimsun said look around under System>Preferences>Fonts
[12:59] <msbender> ok, will do my best, thanks a lot! :-)
[12:59] <revelater> hey, how do i get cups to recognize my printer?
[12:59] <dead^^> Burgundavia: naeh, i've been trying to download packages that people have been suggesting and nothing seems to happen =(
[12:59] <FAR> msbender:  good luck !
[12:59] <revelater> or just how do i run cups?
[01:00] <Burgundavia> dead^^, are familiar with linux/debian?
[01:00] <FAR> revelater:  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[01:00] <dead^^> Burgundavia: not so much. I'm just startin' with Linux. i feel so frustrated. i've literally tried almost everything
[01:01] <revelater> hmmm, still not working, but cups is started
[01:01] <Burgundavia> dead^^, have you added the repositories in synaptic?
[01:01] <shido6> anytime I access my dvd to watch a movie, vlc, xine, totem my mouse dies
[01:01] <revelater> is their some gui interface for cups?
[01:01] <shido6> what do i do to recover my mouse when I watch a movie with my dvd player - or when I run vmware
[01:01] <dead^^> Burgundavia: yes, i've tried that too
[01:02] <dead^^> Burgundavia: nothing
[01:02] <rhys-hynaws> hey. export is not working like I need it to: setenv actalike.
[01:02] <Burgundavia> dead^^, can you paste me your sources.list
[01:02] <revelater> ?
[01:02] <dead^^> Burgundavia: wait a minute
[01:02] <revelater> is their some gui interface for cups?
[01:03] <FAR> revelater:  http://localhost:631/
[01:03] <nick58b> revelater: gnome-cups-manager
[01:04] <rhys-hynaws> hey. Can anyone tell me how to use export like setenv ?
[01:04] <FAR> revelater:  however i haven't been able to use this on my computers even after setting a root password it won't accept it, anyone know why ?
[01:04] <dabaSlon>  ok, it seems that the hard disk wasnt properly power supplied
[01:04] <benz> i need help mounting my ntfs partition
[01:04] <dabaSlon> benz ubuntuguide.org
[01:04] <dabaSlon> and, ls /dev
[01:04] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: export SOMEVAR=someval
[01:05] <dabaSlon> see which hdx123....is your partition
[01:05] <fsapo> hi.. somebody could help me with a very simple shellscript?
[01:05] <dabaSlon> fsapo: paste it to pastebin.com, and give us the URL
[01:05] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla ... is not working
[01:05] <fsapo> i have some movies to encode but each one takes 1 hour, i wanna make some kind of batch to run it
[01:05] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: why do you need to do that? the firefox script already does that
[01:06] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, Eclipse doesn't pick it up
[01:06] <revelater> hmm, my printer was paused for some reason...
[01:06] <dabaSlon> fsapo: what knowledge do you need?
[01:06] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, I am tryingto use PHPEclipse.
[01:06] <fsapo> dabaSlon, just how to make a shell script to run these commands, when one finishes, run another
[01:07] <fsapo> dabaSlon, i want to leave it encoding before going to bed ^^
[01:07] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: look at lines 92 && 94 of /usr/bin/firefox
[01:07] <dabaSlon> you can for example, just command && command && command && command...and as each finishes properly(hopefully) the other willl start
[01:07] <fsapo> dabaSlon, hum.. i think that is just it
[01:07] <dabaSlon> fsapo: you can as well, write a file, make the first line #! /usr/bin/bash
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, Oh! Thank you.
[01:08] <fsapo> dabaSlon, hum.. i think i ll do it
[01:08] <dabaSlon> And then add the commands each on a separate line, and save, chmod +x it, and ./script it.
[01:08] <fsapo> dabaSlon, if i put each on separate lines i dont need the &&?
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, then do you have any idea why i get these: [debugger] 
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.enabled=on
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.profiler_enabled=on
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.hosts_allow=host1 host2 (host names or IP allowed to start debug sessions)
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.hosts_deny=ALL
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.ports=7869, 10000/16
[01:08] <dabaSlon> right, and if one of them fails, the rest will run anyhow.
[01:08] <chris> How do I install a driver in ubuntu?  I think I can find it, but I don't know how to install.
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> oops sorry for theflood
[01:09] <dabaSlon> find it first, and tell us what it is...
[01:09] <Razor-X> hey
[01:09] <fsapo> dabaSlon, ok.. thanx that's all i need ^^
[01:09] <Razor-X> i'm in Ubuntu now
[01:09] <dabaSlon> welcome
[01:09] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: I am not familiar with PHPEclipse
[01:09] <dabaSlon> sweet, got back from school, eh?
[01:09] <metalsand> I love Dell Taco
[01:09] <Razor-X> yeahp
[01:10] <dabaSlon> rhys-hynaws: I use Eclipse(the IDE??) and you just get their installer, run it, and it works.
[01:10] <Razor-X> time to install VLC
[01:10] <rhys-hynaws> dabaSlon, There is an Eclipse installer ? :O
[01:10] <fsapo> dabaSlon, the first line is: #! /usr/bin/bash or #!/usr/bin/bash? or the space means nothing?
[01:10] <dabaSlon> metalsand: does that mean it installed your wireless?
[01:10] <dabaSlon> space
[01:10] <dabaSlon> use it.
[01:10] <rhys-hynaws> lol this may be the root of my problem lol dabaSlon
[01:10] <dabaSlon> cool stuff.
[01:10] <fsapo> dabaSlon, ok thanx
[01:11] <dabaSlon> ok...
[01:11] <dabaSlon> rhys-hynaws: try finding their installer on their site.
[01:11] <metalsand> crimsun: After I finish my lunch can you help me work on my card? ;)
[01:11] <dabaSlon> I gotta go back to the other computer to see how it is installing..
[01:11] <dabaSlon> heh
[01:12] <rhys-hynaws> dabaSlon, I downloaded: eclipse-SDK-3.0.2-linux-gtk.zip  ... is that not right?
[01:12] <crimsun> metalsand: perhaps. I'm proctoring a final exam atm.
[01:12] <metalsand> crimsun: Haha, wow. For what?
[01:12] <dabaSlon> it is the Eclipse, yes, but PHPEclipse, I  dont know what that is.
[01:12] <crimsun> metalsand: vulnerability assessment
[01:12] <rhys-hynaws> PHPEclipse is an Eclipse plugin
[01:13] <panzan> ok... I think this is a direct hit against Ubuntu founder... "Dell Founder Invests $99.5M in Red Hat" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/dell_red_hat
[01:13] <dabaSlon> rhys-hynaws: cool, try that.
[01:13] <scott> anyone know how to convert a dvd to xvid or divx in ubuntu?
[01:13] <metalsand> crimsun: What kind of class is that?
[01:13] <dabaSlon> wow, thats sure a lot of money.
[01:14] <dabaSlon> scott: try ubunntuforums, and google, if noone knows, I suspect those two places know.
[01:14] <metalsand> panzan: I saw that in Slashdot a few days ago
[01:14] <metalsand> A lot of money to just give away
[01:14] <panzan> guess.. Yahoo is a bit slow
[01:14] <panzan> hehehe
[01:14] <Razor-X> wow, I feel like an idiot....
[01:14] <dabaSlon> yeah, well, they dont specialize in that...
[01:14] <Razor-X> this isthe first time i've forgotten the root password.....
[01:14] <Razor-X> *is the
[01:14] <Razor-X> -_-
[01:14] <crimsun> metalsand: studies of buffer overflows, stack smashing, passive/active network attacks, and the like
[01:14] <dabaSlon> Razor-X: there is none. It is your password.
[01:14] <mebaran151> Printing: Unable to open USB device "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800": No such device
[01:14] <mebaran151> I get this error whenever I print
[01:14] <mebaran151> how do I create this virtual device
[01:15] <Razor-X> dabaSlon: ohh, that's right!
[01:15] <dabaSlon> I know:)
[01:15] <panzan> is sudo a new concept introduced in ubuntu, or in debian?
[01:15] <Razor-X> I was.... thinking elsewhere during setup
[01:15] <FlyingSquirrel32> Where can I get a .deb for an older version of wine that was previously available???
[01:15] <mebaran151> sudo is a program taht wraps a command with root priveledges
[01:15] <dabaSlon> Razor-X: thats cool, a lot of those questions here...
[01:15] <crimsun> panzan: with openbsd originally but targeted for all posix
[01:15] <adb22791> where does the live cd save information?
[01:15] <mebaran151> Ubuntu took a relatively progressive stance
[01:15] <mebaran151> by disabling root account
[01:15] <Razor-X> yeah, well, I had to be sure that my parents didn't storm in during the install
[01:16] <mebaran151> the live CD doesnt
[01:16] <dabaSlon> adb22791: does it at all?
[01:16] <hyphenated> panzan: sudo has been around for a long time
[01:16] <mebaran151> but anyone here want to help me
[01:16] <mebaran151> ifix my printer
[01:16] <adb22791> so basically if i use the live cd i cant save anything
[01:16] <panzan> I never knew.... mandrake had a root account
[01:16] <adb22791> i thought it saved a small area on the harddisk for prefernces and updates
[01:16] <dabaSlon> is it installed in printers in administartion, under the system menu?
[01:16] <hyphenated> panzan: but it was only really known about by people that needed it's features
[01:17] <adb22791> Does the Live CD Save any info on the harddrive?
[01:18] <hyphenated> adb22791: only if you go out of your way to make it save things there
[01:18] <hyphenated> adb22791: otherwise it won't even touch the drive
[01:18] <adb22791> is there documentation on that?
[01:18] <panzan> Im now on a mission to create my own distro on a live CD!
[01:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> I really need the .deb of Wine-20050419 any ideas where i can get it?
[01:18] <panzan> It's going to take me 2 years!
[01:18] <Burgundavia> adb22791, what sort are you lookin or?
[01:18] <panzan> lol
[01:18] <panzan> wish me luck!
[01:19] <adb22791> i like manuals the best
[01:19] <crimsun> unless it finds swap space (a swap signature, rather) on the HD
[01:19] <kementeus> somebody could install sonance in hoary?
[01:19] <adb22791> a page that explains what to do
[01:19] <Razor-X> FlyingSquirrel32: if there's an RPM, you could alien it
[01:19] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, good idea... but i know there's already a .deb out there somewhere...
[01:20] <adb22791> i am new to debian and ubuntu
[01:20] <Razor-X> FlyingSquirrel32: just use Google then ;-P
[01:20] <dabaSlon> panzan: haha, cool statement...
[01:20] <adb22791> Basically a completed documentation source on the live cd
[01:20] <dabaSlon> panzan: its gonna take me 730 days...
[01:20] <dabaSlon> I have no plan, but, I know that is how long it will take me...
[01:21] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, tried that of course.
[01:21] <panzan> dabaSlon, are you mocking me? hehehehe
[01:21] <panzan> or are you serious?
[01:21] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, which rpm should I use ... one for suse, or one for rh
[01:22] <Razor-X> FlyingSquirrel32: i'ld asy RH
[01:22] <metalsand> How often are new kernel versions out?
[01:23] <pinS> is it really necessary to have phpbb2 in the packages?
[01:23] <hyphenated> metalsand: when they're ready, or when there's a security issue that was fixed and needs an immediate patch
[01:23] <pinS> isnt it better to just install it manually like the good ole days
[01:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, we'll see.
[01:23] <Razor-X> I heard from someone that the extra repositories the guide people tell you to add may break a lot of stuff... is that true?
[01:23] <Razor-X> because, then, I won't add em to my sources.list
[01:23] <adb22791> i get this error: dpkg was interupted while trying to apt-get update
[01:23] <panzan> "Some 90 percent of murderers are mentally ill, a higher percentage than believed previously, according to a Swedish study."
[01:23] <metalsand> BS.
[01:24] <pinS> lol
[01:24] <panzan> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050510/sc_afp/swedensciencemurderpsychiatry_050510172459
[01:24] <adb22791> lol someone help me
[01:24] <adb22791> oh wait i think i got it :)
[01:24] <Burgundavia> panzan, please keep to Ubuntu on-topic things here
[01:24] <metalsand> slashdot > Google news > * > Yahoo news
[01:24] <panzan> Burgundavia, sure, sorry for that.
[01:24] <pinS> metalsand, LOL
[01:24] <adb22791> google kicks ass
[01:24] <Razor-X> if I were to add repositories made for Debian, should I add Woody ones, or Sid ones?
[01:24] <metalsand> I'm trying to configure my network PCMCIA card
[01:24] <panzan> topix.net kicks ass
[01:24] <crimsun> metalsand: I think you reversed the comparison operators ;)
[01:24] <metalsand> Who wants to help
[01:25] <Razor-X> adb22791: more if you remember the internet before google
[01:25] <metalsand> crimsun: You up for a headache?
[01:25] <adb22791> yeha
[01:25] <crimsun> metalsand: I already have one, and I can't devote my full attention for another hour until this final is completed.
[01:25] <Flav> i may be missing something, but shouldn't this upgrade page mention dist-upgrade? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WartyUpgradeNotes
[01:26] <adb22791> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[01:26] <metalsand> crimsun: After I install HostAP is my card supposed to be automatically found?
[01:26] <adb22791> will that work for saving my config on my hard disk?
[01:26] <crimsun> Flav: no, why would it?
[01:27] <psychonate> Is there any way to start aterm without the window decorations (borderless)?
[01:27] <crimsun> Flav: update && dist-upgrade are assumed knowledge
[01:27] <Flav> crimsun: i followed its notes and got ubuntu-base installed (server system, no X, so no ubuntu-desktop needed), but still needed to upgrade tons of other packages
[01:27] <crimsun> Flav: feel free to amend them as necessary for clarity
[01:28] <Flav> crimsun: ah, ok - i had just done "upgrade" and not "dist-upgrade" unfortunately
[01:28] <Cliekid> Got a problem, when I try to load LimeWire, it says it can find a Java exec in the appropriate path...but then under it it says "/usr/java/j2re.../bin/java = Error.
[01:28] <adb22791> its debian good for dedicated servers?
[01:28] <scott> for some reason ubuntu stopped mounting my dvds on my desktop, and when I go into media/cdrom it doesn't show anything, and totem can't play the dvd when I do play disc..but vlc plays it fine
[01:28] <Cliekid> Anyone know what the problem may be on that? Its the Sun JRE...
[01:28] <crimsun> it's excellent, adb22791, just as Ubuntu is
[01:29] <kro> Is there a util to try and scan a floppy and attempt to determine what filesystem is on it?
[01:29] <JCooper> is it possible to remove the text labels from just the nautilus browser toolbar?
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> a floppy?
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> most likely to have FAT12
[01:29] <panzan> "Ubuntu Linux encourages sharing and copying" - http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3275743a28,00.html
[01:29] <kro> Someone gave me a floppy, it may have come from an Amiga...  not sure what OS or what he formated the floppy with, but I'm having problems reading it
[01:29] <Razor-X> kro: Amiga has it's own FS
[01:30] <Razor-X> I know Windows has some utilities to read it, and Linux must, just not familiar with 'em
[01:30] <kro> I was thinking there should be some util like "file", but for floppies.
[01:32] <metalsand2> Freenode go down?
[01:32] <metalsand2> No... Weird, I wonder why I couldn't connect.
[01:32] <metalsand2> I could still browse the internet.
[01:33] <psychonate> Are there any "unstable" versions of the packages that one can download? I need a newer version of aterm :(
[01:34] <JCooper> it should be relatively simple to compile aterm
[01:34] <psychonate> good point
[01:34] <psychonate> I'll try in a sec
[01:34] <JCooper> does ubuntu backports have anything newer?
[01:35] <psychonate> In synaptic, what is the difference between removal and complete removal?
[01:35] <psychonate> config files?
[01:35] <crimsun> yes
[01:35] <psychonate> ah, thanks
[01:35] <crimsun> it's the difference between remove and purge for dpkg
[01:35] <psychonate> I haven't really used Debian much heh
[01:38] <sir-gold> has anyone gotten dual-monitor mode to work on a radeon card?
[01:39] <emineo> i did
[01:39] <N33Dh3lp> hello
[01:39] <sir-gold> i managed to get some wierd mode where the mouse works properly, but everything else is cloned instead of wide
[01:39] <emineo> mines was cloned
[01:40] <emineo> but the second monitor was wide
[01:40] <N33Dh3lp>  Is there a functional difference between downloading Kubuntu, as a seperate OS and installing it, and adding Kubuntu Desktop to an up to date hoary build?
[01:40] <sir-gold> and fglfxconfig writes to the wrong file for xorg, which is odd seeing as its in the ubuntu wiki
[01:40] <sir-gold> N33Dh3lp, no
[01:41] <N33Dh3lp> awesome
[01:41] <N33Dh3lp> that will save me some time
[01:41] <sir-gold> other than you end up with both gnome and kde
[01:42] <N33Dh3lp> I Like having multiple WM's, each has its own perks
[01:42] <metalsand2> I love Prodigy
[01:42] <metalsand2> Peoples
[01:42] <metalsand2> How do I completely remove hostap?
[01:42] <metalsand2> I'm going to try wlan-ng over again now that I have no internal card
[01:42] <N33Dh3lp> I love how much better hoary has gotten in just the last couple of months
[01:42] <JCooper> how has it got betteR?
[01:43] <N33Dh3lp> I especially like the consolidated back ports repository for getting all of the restricted format stuff
[01:43] <JCooper> true, v helpful indeed
[01:43] <Burgundavia> N33Dh3lp, that is not technically the Ubuntu people
[01:43] <N33Dh3lp> I know, but its still an advantage :)
[01:43] <JCooper> its a benefit of the good community surrounding ubuntu :)
[01:43] <N33Dh3lp> yes
[01:44] <N33Dh3lp> one thing that I think is funny is the stink some people have been raising about having Java available in a repository
[01:44] <dockane> is there any good reason why cgoban does get listed in Applications->Games under gnome
[01:44] <dockane> *not
[01:44] <dockane> ?
[01:44] <N33Dh3lp> I mean, as long as it forces them to agree to the EULA, what is the big deal
[01:44] <JCooper> it might not have a .desktop file
[01:44] <JCooper> i agree... the same people that have issues with mono i guess
[01:45] <N33Dh3lp> if anything it helps lower the bandwidth burden on Sun
[01:45] <JCooper> i cant believe apache are starting yet another OSS jre
[01:45] <shido6> i removed my trash from the lower right hand corner of my screen, oops... how do i add it back?
[01:46] <N33Dh3lp> I will be back
[01:46] <JCooper> shido6, right click on the panel, add to panel...
[01:46] <metalsand2> right click on the panel --> Add to panel
[01:46] <metalsand2> Select the trash icon
[01:46] <gaussian88> I hope this isn't a stupid question, but here goes:  If a deb package installed on debian, is it safe to say that it will also install on Ubuntu?
[01:46] <cafuego> right click on the panel, click 'add to panel'
[01:46] <cafuego> gaussian88: No.
[01:46] <cafuego> gaussian88: You forgot the 'probably'
[01:47] <gaussian88> cafuego: Will debian packages EVER install on Ubuntu?
[01:47] <gaussian88> cafuego: ahhh   probably
[01:47] <JCooper> some do
[01:47] <gaussian88> cafuego: greater then or less then 50% success?
[01:47] <metalsand2> Wonda the magical fish of the Gnome panel just said that I'm so boring I make her feet go to sleep.
[01:47] <cafuego> gaussian88: More likely they will exhibit dependency problems and generally make life difficult.
[01:47] <gaussian88> thought so
[01:47] <cafuego> gaussian88: Easiest to fetch the debian source and rebuild the package on ubuntu.
[01:48] <cafuego> That way you can adjust depends too.
[01:48] <gaussian88> I found that once the multiverse and universe are "unleashed", shortage of packages shouldn't be a problem.   However, it's always those 1 or 2 packages that get ya
[01:48] <gaussian88> I guess I'll compile them myself then.    yuk
[01:48] <metalsand2> Children
[01:48] <metalsand2> How do I remove a module
[01:48] <metalsand2> and delete its directory'
[01:48] <cafuego> it's trivial with dpkg-buildpackage
[01:48] <gaussian88> I can have some guys in my company roll a few packages for Ubuntu I guess.
[01:49] <cafuego> metalsand2: man rmmod, grandpa
[01:49] <gaussian88> I guess I should ask --> anyone here have NXCLIENT on Ubuntu running yet?
[01:49] <Burgundavia> gaussian88, why company?
[01:49] <cafuego> What is nxclient?
[01:49] <gaussian88> nxclient ~= Citrix, but for Linux and it's free free free    ;)
[01:50] <gaussian88> it's my company and we are a Linux shop.  so we have guys that can roll a few packages
[01:50] <cafuego> Oh, I just use gnome-tsc
[01:50] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, I think it's gonna work. I'll have to finish tomorrow. Thanks!
[01:50] <darmou> how do I add people to groups using the command line, for some reason the ui tool has gone bung on me:(
[01:50] <metalsand2> cafuego: After I've rmmod the module
[01:50] <gaussian88> we're switching a few of our customers over to the fabulous world of Ubuntu
[01:50] <metalsand2> Do I need to clean anything up
[01:50] <Burgundavia> gaussian88, debian sid stuff might install on ubuntu
[01:50] <metalsand2> folders or remains of the file?
[01:50] <Burgundavia> gaussian88, but I would roll your own
[01:50] <cafuego> metalsand2: maybe
[01:50] <metalsand2> Well
[01:51] <metalsand2> How would I go about doing that
[01:51] <metalsand2> The module is hostap
[01:51] <cafuego> metalsand2: Check which hostap-related packages are installed and remove them?
[01:52] <cafuego> metalsand2: Easiest to do via synaptic probably, if you're in X.
[01:52] <metalsand2> Should I remove or complete remove?
[01:52] <metalsand2> :x
[01:52] <cafuego> complete remove will also purge config files
[01:53] <zoddan> i have added my WLAN-card to interfaces but it wont connect at boot :(
[01:53] <ubuntu> hi all
[01:53] <metalsand2> So, that's probably a good ideA?
[01:53] <ubuntu> thi's a good linux distro:9
[01:53] <FlyingSquirrel32> cafuego, where can I learn about creating packages?
[01:53] <zoddan> i must do it by my self everytime i start
[01:53] <zoddan> how can i fix this ?
[01:53] <Burgundavia> FlyingSquirrel32, debian new maintainers guide
[01:53] <cafuego> FlyingSquirrel32: probably the best place to start is the new maintainer's guide on debian.org
[01:53] <FlyingSquirrel32> cafuego thx
[01:53] <cafuego> http://nm.debian.org/
[01:53] <zoddan> anyone? :)
[01:54] <Razor-X> ah hah!
[01:54] <cafuego> metalsand2: if you don't want to use it anymore, with that configuration... yeah
[01:54] <Razor-X> I now have VLC!
[01:54] <nate__> sup
[01:54] <cafuego> lspci
[01:54] <Razor-X> which means, my media problems are solved with no codecs
[01:54] <Amaranth> Razor-X: It's the best. :)
[01:55] <nate__> anyone know how to restart the ssh daemon?
[01:55] <crimsun> nate__: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[01:55] <nate__> Razor-X: codecs are a breeze
[01:55] <cafuego> Awright
[01:55] <Razor-X> Amaranth: yeah, but it was 40 GB, because Kubuntu doesen't have gtklib
[01:55] <Razor-X> nate__: that, and I like VLC too
[01:55] <Amaranth> MB
[01:55] <Razor-X> *MB
[01:55] <Razor-X> ;-P
[01:55] <nate__> crimsun: it gives me: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh -restart
[01:55] <nate__> Password:
[01:55] <nate__>  * Usage: /etc/init.d/ssh {start|stop|reload|force-reload|restart}
[01:56] <cafuego> nate__: Well, that seems clear enough.
[01:56] <Razor-X> VLC for Linux seems way faster than its Windows counterpart, mmmmmm
[01:56] <Amaranth> I should get him to roll his version with WMV3 support into a deb
[01:56] <nate__> oh no -
[01:56] <nate__> ha!
[01:56] <Razor-X> now, i'm gonna try and get gtk-qt
[01:56] <cafuego> nate__: See how the usage info doesn't list "-restart' ?
[01:57] <cafuego> woo, it boots :-)
[01:58] <metalsand2> ror: temporary failed naming something or rather
[01:58] <metalsand2> fail
[01:59] <metalsand2> How do I "repair" that so it doesn't fail everytime I boot?
[01:59] <difeta> how can I make my $PATH include /opt/somedir/bin ?
[01:59] <goldfish> difeta: export PATH=$PATH:/opt/somedir/bin
[01:59] <difeta> goldfish, yeah, but how can i preserve that setting for every terminal in X?
[01:59] <goldfish> stick it in .bashrc
[02:00] <goldfish> or em
[02:00] <goldfish> hmmm
[02:00] <difeta> goldfish, it doesnt seem to work in .bashrc
[02:00] <goldfish> ah right :/
[02:00] <difeta> goldfish, in fact i have it in /etc/profile and it doesnt work in X
[02:01] <Dave9191> czesc marcin :)
[02:02] <testuser> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[02:02] <testuser> .
[02:03] <zoddan> does anyone know how to get wlan to work in ubuntu ?
[02:05] <crimsun> zoddan: ideally you just turn on the machine
[02:05] <zoddan> crimsun no shit :)
[02:06] <crimsun> (watch the language, please)
[02:06] <crimsun> it'd be immensely helpful if you provided symptoms
[02:06] <zoddan> i have added the nic to interfaces but i wont start at boot
[02:06] <zoddan> i have to do i manually
[02:07] <zoddan> to get it to connect
[02:07] <crimsun> are you using Warty or Hoary?
[02:07] <zoddan> Hoary
[02:08] <zoddan> is it a bug or what ?
[02:08] <rhys-hynaws> Can anyone help me get the internal browser working in Eclipse ?
[02:08] <mz2> oh grand, backports work again
[02:09] <spidna> any gotten xmms on ubuntu 5.4
[02:09] <crimsun> zoddan: paste your /etc/network/interfaces in #flood
[02:09] <crimsun> spidna: sure, it's in main. What's up?
[02:09] <zoddan> crimsun: there is not mutch
[02:10] <zoddan> just 3 lines for the wlan
[02:10] <spidna> just can't apt-get it
[02:10] <Razor-X> where is Firefox installed to?
[02:10] <crimsun> spidna: is the main repo enabled?
[02:10] <crimsun> Razor-X: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[02:10] <Razor-X> cool
[02:10] <rhys-hynaws> Can anyone help me get the internal browser working in Eclipse ?
[02:10] <zoddan> crimsun: done
[02:11] <spidna> Crimsun where would i find that
[02:11] <crimsun> spidna: System>Administration>Synaptic>Settings>Repositories
[02:11] <crimsun> zoddan: ok
[02:12] <crimsun> zoddan: are you saying that the iface isn't brought up on boot? If so, that's easily resolved. Add "auto eth1" to /etc/network/interfaces
[02:12] <zoddan> crimsun: i have but that didnt help
[02:13] <zoddan> crimsun: it is not connecting to my AP anyway :(
[02:13] <crimsun> zoddan: have you used the wifi troubleshooting guide(s) on the wiki?
[02:13] <crimsun> zoddan: particularly with iwconfig, etc.?
[02:13] <zoddan> crimsun: the Link LED is flashing but it wont connect so i have to take out the card and restart the nic to get it to work
[02:14] <zoddan> crimsun: i use iqconfig to set essid and so on
[02:14] <zoddan> w
[02:14] <spidna> crimsun it appears to be enable
[02:15] <zoddan> crimsun so i have to do it manually :(
[02:15] <zoddan> crimsun: is it some bug or what ?
[02:15] <crimsun> spidna: paste in #flood the output of apt-cache policy xmms
[02:15] <crimsun> zoddan: did you use the network config tool?
[02:15] <crimsun> zoddan: System>Administration>Networking
[02:17] <Flav> what's the way to list just the currently installed packages besides dpkg -l|grep ^ii
[02:17] <zoddan> crimsun yes that to
[02:18] <zoddan> crimsun nothing helps
[02:18] <zoddan> crimsun: onyl works when i do it by my self after the boot
[02:18] <crimsun> Flav: dpkg -l   by itself suffices
[02:18] <Flav> crimsun: that shows some packages in "rc" mode.  Is there a way to purge the config files of these removed but not purged packages?
[02:19] <crimsun> sure, use shell scripting
[02:19] <zoddan> when is the new ubuntu comming out ?
[02:19] <crimsun> zoddan: Oct
[02:20] <zoddan> maybe my wlan will work in that
[02:20] <zoddan> aha :(
[02:20] <Flav> crimsun: what's the command to remove just the config files?  apt-get remove --purge doesn't work, of course
[02:20] <crimsun> Flav: dpkg -P foo
[02:20] <Flav> crimsun: danke
[02:20] <zoddan> crimsun how about if i make a script that runs at boot ?
[02:21] <crimsun> zoddan: sure, whatever works for you. File a bug in bugzilla if it's broken.
[02:21] <zoddan> ok
[02:21] <zoddan> well i have done everything i can come up with
[02:21] <zoddan> but it wont connect
[02:21] <Deffie> ubuntu has any kernel-source package with the default configuration ?
[02:21] <zoddan> maybe the iwconfig is not loaded when it tryes to connect or something
[02:21] <zoddan> it starts the nic but it is not setting the essid and so on
[02:22] <zoddan> mybe thats the problem
[02:22] <crimsun> do you have a mapping section in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:22] <zoddan> hum
[02:22] <zoddan> i think so
[02:22] <zoddan> why ?
[02:23] <crimsun> ensure that you do.
[02:24] <zoddan> crimsun yep i have
[02:24] <crimsun> then file a bug in bugzilla
[02:27] <testuser> anyone run mythtv?
[02:29] <Flav> crimsun: some of the package names are so long they get truncated in dpkg -l output - any way to get them to print with their full name in dpkg -l?
[02:31] <Deffie> any info/url/doc about rebuilding ubuntu's kernel ?
[02:31] <SpAwN> is ubuntu free
[02:31] <Deffie> yes it is
[02:31] <SpAwN> WOO HOO
[02:31] <Deffie> chech http://www.ubuntulinux.org
[02:32] <Deffie> *check
[02:32] <SpAwN> Later
[02:32] <SpAwN> bye bye
[02:33] <Flav> crimsun: it seems to be when the output is redirected - hmm
[02:34] <Jibby> how do I add a directory to my path?
[02:35] <Flav> Jibby: with which shell? export PATH=/some/dir:$PATH for bash
[02:35] <zoddan> crimsun: eth1 was not under the mapping section, do i have to add ?
[02:36] <Jibby> Flaw: yes bash - do i change /etc/profile ?
[02:36] <Razor-X> after you edit menu.lst in GRUB
[02:37] <Razor-X> do you have to specify a command for it to load the new menu.lst?
[02:37] <Razor-X> (like in LILO)
[02:38] <Deffie> Razor-X grub-install /dev/device
[02:38] <Razor-X> I have to do that, again?
[02:39] <Deffie> every time you modify menu.lst
[02:39] <Deffie> it is like "lilo" after modifyng /etc/lilo.conf
[02:39] <Deffie> *modifying
[02:39] <Razor-X> oh, ok
[02:40] <Razor-X> done ;)
[02:42] <Jormundgand> In XChat can I pipe the result of a command into a file like in a console?
[02:43] <goldfish> you could try /exec command > file maybe
[02:43] <goldfish> that works on irssi
[02:44] <goldfish> dunno about xchat
[02:44] <ryman> man
[02:44] <ryman> I'm sick of firefox
[02:44] <ryman> it keeps crashing
[02:44] <ryman> my ubuntu keep freezing
[02:44] <ryman> is there any better web browser
[02:45] <concept10> anyone here ever setup mambo server?
[02:45] <Deffie> Jormundgand about pipeping, try something simple to try if works like /exec ps aux | grep xchat
[02:45] <Flav> How can I get dpkg to "force" a removal when postrm scripts are failing, but I don't care?
[02:45] <goldfish> ryman: Internet Explorer.
[02:45] <ryman> goldfish, lol
[02:45] <Deffie> ryman firefox isnt that bad, really; but if you want you can try epiphany
[02:45] <resiak> Galeon!
[02:45] <ryman> like when I right click on the pix on a website
[02:46] <ryman> then i click "view image"
[02:46] <ryman> it crashed firefox
[02:46] <nate__> i've had firefox crash, but mostly when i'm attempting stupid stuff, or simply overloading it
[02:46] <ryman> does your ubuntu freeze ?
[02:46] <nnonix> never
[02:46] <nnonix> or, never (yet)
[02:46] <ryman> hmm maybe there is osmehitng wrong with my hard drive or something
[02:46] <Jormundgand> Deffie: I want to store the results of a /list command in a file, or in a tab for viewing separately. As is it displays in the channel window and overflows the buffer.
[02:47] <resiak> Flav: "fix" the postrm scripts?
[02:47] <Deffie> ryman as resiak sayis galeon or epiphany, they are the same, one is older the other is newer but i dont remember which of the 2 is the newer
[02:48] <Deffie> i've been using epiphany because firefox was too big for my old pc
[02:48] <Deffie> they are lighter
[02:49] <concept10> I have installed mysql 4.0.23 on a fresh install of ubuntu, what do I have to do next to setup mysql to make ready for Mambo CMS?
[02:49] <Jormundgand> If I want to uninstall a manually installed version of Firefox (which is, for sake of argument, in /home/ketsuban/firefox) how would I uninstall it?
[02:50] <shad0w1e> is GRUB compatible with Linux being on an XFS partition?
[02:50] <Deffie> Jormundgand you can simply delete it if it isnt referenced by anything important
[02:50] <raiz> Ok, can someone check my sintax real quick?  I'm not even sure that this will work...
[02:50] <raiz> deb ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware
[02:51] <raiz> If I add that to my scources list I should be able to download the whole thing right?
[02:51] <raiz> using apt-get...
[02:52] <Deffie> raiz it should be deb ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware but with that host/ftp it will probably wont work
[02:52] <raiz> Why with that host?
[02:53] <raiz> What's wrong with them?
[02:53] <Deffie> raiz because afaik slackware ftp doesnt contains deb packages nor has an apt-suitable structure
[02:53] <raiz> Ah...
[02:53] <raiz> Ok.
[02:54] <raiz> Is there any way I can get around that?  (Please don't say bittorrents...;.;)
[02:55] <Deffie> raiz check your query window
[02:55] <raiz> Ok.  Thanks.
[02:56] <ryman> thanks guys ... I will try them out
[02:57] <mr_roboto>  Jormundgand: how about "rm -rf /home/ketsuban/firefox && rm -rf /home/ketsuban/.mozilla"
[02:57] <Jormundgand> mr_roboto: deleting the folder seems to have had the desired effect.
[02:58] <mr_roboto> Jormundgand: the second folder (.mozilla/firefox) is where the profiles and cache stuff is stored. if you leave that it will be eating disk unnecessarily
[02:59] <Jormundgand> And that won't interfere with regular package Firefox's settings?
[02:59] <mr_roboto> Jormundgand: oh... well yes :)   i thought you said you installed it manually. didn't know you did BOTH
[03:00] <Jormundgand> I removed one, installed t'other, hated the non-transparent logo, switched back.
[03:00] <mr_roboto> ahhh
[03:01] <mark345> anyone here using gnome 2.10.1?
[03:02] <Deffie> anyone knows where to get ubuntu kernel sources ?
[03:04] <resiak> Deffie: apt-cache search linux-source ?
[03:04] <Deffie> resiak i tried but theres only 2.4.X
[03:05] <Deffie> resiak i'm looking for 2.6...i can get the vanilla kernel but isnt that easy to reproduce ubuntu default kernel config
[03:08] <Deffie> resiak i'm looking if the default kernel config is accessible through ikconfig
[03:09] <batkins_> does ubuntu use the same packages as debian?
[03:09] <batkins_> when i do an apt-get, do the packages come from debian or ubuntu?
[03:09] <HrdwrBoB> yes and no
[03:09] <resiak> No, just a no.
[03:09] <Deffie> batkins_ they come from ubuntu
[03:09] <resiak> The packages come from Ubuntu, unless you've done very silly things.
[03:10] <resiak> WTF, packages.u.c is down.
[03:10] <batkins_> i haven't changed anything, just curious
[03:12] <Deffie> resiak hoary's kernel doesnt have ikconfig/config.gz support i'm subscribing to the ubuntu kernel mailing list to ask for that, it will be useful
[03:12] <resiak> Deffie: Go for it.
[03:14] <hyphenated> kudos to ubuntu (hoary).. it got my laptop's resolution correct without any extra work on my part. it's a weird widescreen resolution
[03:14] <snetx10> well i wish it would properly configure my dual-monitor setup automatically
[03:14] <snetx10> or rather, even manually would be nice... not workin for me
[03:17] <hyphenated> snetx10: there's a forum to have a browse through, to see if someone has had that same problem, and found a solution
[03:19] <snetx10> yeah its just tough because nobody has the exact same two monitors that i have, with the same video card, with ubuntu hoary
[03:19] <daniels> dual-monitors are *hard* to get right
[03:20] <nopea> after moving a file to the trash and emptying it there is still a file with the same name ending with ~ when I browse for a file inside programs etc.  What is this?
[03:20] <nopea> also in the terminal too
[03:20] <goldfish> a backup maybe?
[03:20] <tritium> nopea, some programs, especially editors, leave backup files like that
[03:21] <nopea> they are hidden? they dont start with '.'
[03:22] <Burgundavia> nopea, they are not hidden
[03:22] <Burgundavia> nopea, they exist for very good reasons
[03:22] <Jormundgand> http://www.ketsuban.net/images/backgrounds/Minimalistic_Black_and_White.jpg - Do there exist any backgrounds like this one - same style?
[03:23] <nopea> Burgundavia, and that reason is?
[03:23] <Burgundavia> nopea, say you edit your sources.list or your xorg.conf and then it breaks
[03:24] <Burgundavia> it is very easy to 'mv blah~ blah' than figure out what you have borked
[03:25] <nopea> Burgundavia, ok so backup files... but they are hidden
[03:25] <Deffie> nopea many times such files gets removed on correct editor termination, are you killing -9 or "forcing quits" ?
[03:25] <Burgundavia> nopea, no ~ are not hidden
[03:25] <nopea> Deffie, somtimes gphpedit crashes
[03:26] <Burgundavia> gedit leaves them behind by default
[03:26] <raiz> Where is java on your system?
[03:26] <nopea> Burgundavia, what I am saying is that even tho they are say in my Desktop directory they do not appear on my Desktop - or in other directories they exsist in my home directory
[03:26] <shad0w1e> anyone here know why I cant get GRUB working on my XFS linux partition?
[03:27] <raiz> Mine doesn't return anything when I use whereis... or locate, or find...
[03:27] <Burgundavia> nopea, hmm
[03:27] <Deffie> nopea i dont know gphpedit, try to figure if the files you found have been edited eith gphpedit
[03:27] <raiz> shadow, what partitions do you have?
[03:27] <shad0w1e> grub-install says "not a block device"
[03:27] <nopea> I think I have some left behind by Bluefish too - but that doesnt crash
[03:28] <shad0w1e> I have 2 partitions. hde1 (xfs, /) and hde2 (swap)
[03:28] <pschulz01> Greetings - hoary CD's..
[03:28] <raiz> not a block device?  Ok, are you in ubuntu?
[03:28] <shad0w1e> raiz: I booted off the install CD, let it detect my hardware, then mounted my drive, and chrooted into it
[03:28] <pschulz01> I was sent the previous verison.. do I need to request more or will they be automatically sent out?
[03:29] <Deffie> nopea they arent displayed from the gui because gnome filemanager recognizes them as backups, maybe theres an option in preferences or in gconf
[03:29] <raiz> Ok, so you are in ubuntu.
[03:29] <shad0w1e> raiz: yes
[03:29] <raiz> Did you remember to mount on /
[03:29] <shad0w1e> raiz: what do you mean
[03:29] <nopea> Deffie, cool thanks
[03:29] <nate__> anyone familiar with keychain who can help me set it up?
[03:30] <shad0w1e> you mean in my fstab?
[03:30] <raiz> Um, well, it wanted me to mount on / when I installed.
[03:30] <shad0w1e> my fstab is fine. it came from another system
[03:30] <raiz> Ok.
[03:30] <raiz> Try this in a terminal.
[03:30] <nopea> Deffie, yes you are right its a setting in the File Managment pref.
[03:30] <raiz> less /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:30] <shad0w1e> I copied all the files over. this used to be an ext2 system but I copied the contents onto an XS partition
[03:30] <raiz> Tell me what that returns.
[03:30] <shad0w1e> my menu.lst is fine
[03:31] <Deffie> nopea and maybe the editors too have some option regarding the creation of them
[03:31] <Deffie> nopea sorry i'm not that good in english i take some time to write :)
[03:31] <raiz> Ok, so when is it giving you this error?
[03:31] <nopea> Deffie, yeah I am going to look into that.... not a huge issue now that I know what they are
[03:31] <nopea> Deffie, thats ok ;-)
[03:32] <shad0w1e> grub-install /dev/hde1
[03:32] <shad0w1e> I get ERROR: hde1 is not a block device
[03:32] <mebaran151> I have a printer prbolem
[03:32] <raiz> Ah, printer problems...
[03:32] <mebaran151> Printing: Unable to open USB device "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800": No such device
[03:32] <Deffie> shad0w1e maybe the errors are in /etc/mtab /etc/fstab
[03:32] <mebaran151> how od I make that device work
[03:32] <mebaran151> it is a virtual device
[03:33] <mebaran151> that should link to /dev/usb/lp0
[03:33] <raiz> Have you tried just... doing what he just said...
[03:33] <mebaran151> but I dont know how to link it
[03:33] <nopea> my printer just spits out empty paper one after another in Ubuntu - never had luck setting up my printer
[03:33] <raiz> Open computer, systemconfig, printing, try to auto detect the printer...
[03:34] <shad0w1e> how about this: I run grub.
[03:34] <shad0w1e> when I type in root(hd0,0) I get "selected disk doesnt exist"
[03:35] <BrettMeister> Well..I've encountered a prob that I haven't had before.  I'm having trouble on my newl-installed 5.04 Ubuntu machine with getting authentication to happen on XChat.
[03:35] <Xanadu> wow there are a lot of ppl here
[03:35] <lampshade> Xanadu, the other night we had 500+
[03:35] <Xanadu> sheesh!
[03:35] <shad0w1e> raiz: my fstab and mtab seem fine
[03:36] <Xanadu> and u all use ubuntu?
[03:36] <mebaran151> raiz, tried taht
[03:36] <BrettMeister> Keep getting the message "No identd (auth) response", then, next line: "USER: Not enough parameters.
[03:36] <mebaran151> this is an autodetected printer
[03:36] <nate__> would anyone with knowledge of keychain please help me set it up?
[03:36] <raiz> meb, your printer has to be on before your computer.
[03:36] <BrettMeister> Ideas, anyone? :-)
[03:37] <nopea> problem about autodetect is that the model is sometimes not in the list
[03:37] <Deffie> BrettMeister some times it depends on the ircd, try passing /quote or /raw (i dont remember which uses xchat) pass <password> manually and then add the command to the on connect commands
[03:37] <Xanadu> um ok new here so hope i'm not breaking protocol but i do have a question
[03:38] <Deffie> nopea which printer do you have ?
[03:38] <Crane> hello
[03:38] <BrettMeister> Deffie: Thanks.  I'm trying to get to here and have had no trouble before now.  I'm using Konversation right now on my MEPIS machine.
[03:38] <mebaran151> it was
[03:38] <mebaran151> my pritner is always on
[03:38] <nopea> my printer is an Epson - which I bought in Japan... in the rest of the world its a 'Stylus Photo' or something like that - but here its a PM-G800 and thats Japan only so its not on the list
[03:38] <mebaran151> it is an R800
[03:38] <Xanadu> how do you split one machine into two machines? i've figured out how to get two terminals going with GDM, can split the mice, but when it comes down to the keyboards i'm stuck
[03:38] <mebaran151> I have Gutenprint 5.0 running as the driver
[03:38] <mebaran151> Xanadu
[03:38] <Xanadu> oh i'm a newbie so please use small words
[03:38] <raiz> And you selected the drivers from the disk?
[03:39] <mebaran151> no
[03:39] <mebaran151> make compiled one
[03:39] <mebaran151> the latest version of Gimp-Print
[03:39] <mebaran151> the driver is not the problem though
[03:39] <raiz> Um...
[03:39] <mebaran151> because this is a device error
[03:39] <raiz> ok.
[03:39] <mebaran151> the device should be findable
[03:40] <mebaran151> perhaps the '%20' is not being made into a space or something
[03:40] <Razor-X> holycow: i'm in Ubuntu ;)
[03:40] <batkins_> what package is wine in?
[03:40] <ubuntu> excuse me all of you, can i ask a question? how much in seconds does your system boot up?
[03:40] <Deffie> nopea yep as mebaran151 says, have you tried gimp-print ?
[03:40] <holycow> Razor-X, nice :)
[03:40] <^thehatsrule^> hey Razor-X ;p
[03:40] <holycow> how long did your install take?
[03:40] <raiz> Ah, that could be.
[03:40] <vigilanty> can anybody help me?
[03:40] <Razor-X> less than 20 ;-P
[03:40] <Razor-X> i'ld say, 15
[03:40] <raiz> ubuntu 20...
[03:40] <mebaran151> vigilanty, what app
[03:40] <holycow> *ding*
[03:40] <holycow> toldja :)
[03:40] <vigilanty> anything
[03:40] <nopea> Deffie, yes thats what the driver gets set to
[03:40] <mebaran151> at terminal type gksudo synaptic
[03:40] <mebaran151> use your passwd
[03:41] <ubuntu> i don't use ubuntu i'd like to know if the kernel is heavy?
[03:41] <Xanadu> hmm no one helping me either vigilante
[03:41] <raiz> ubuntu: in windows, ten min. =p
[03:41] <mebaran151> and bam you have 15 thou of apps
[03:41] <Razor-X> and, NTFS resizing took about 15 minutes
[03:41] <mebaran151> the kernel is a bit fix
[03:41] <DonL> ubuntu, I'd say about 20 seconds
[03:41] <batkins_> can i install wine with apt-get?
[03:41] <holycow> haha windows users never believe me you can get a full desktop and tons of apps installed in less than 20
[03:41] <Deffie> nopea it is attached to usb or parallel ?
[03:41] <mebaran151> yeah you can
[03:41] <Razor-X> ubuntu: no, not at all
[03:41] <mebaran151> usb
[03:41] <nopea> Deffie, USB
[03:41] <mebaran151> i believe
[03:41] <vigilanty> ok
[03:41] <holycow> yeah that doesn't count tho, neither does configuration as each network config sys config are different
[03:41] <mebaran151> Xanadu
[03:41] <vigilanty> not sure what u just said though
[03:41] <mebaran151> it is a little harder than you think it will be
[03:41] <Razor-X> holycow: well, i'm not a Windows user, but, yeah, I didn't believe it ;-P
[03:42] <mebaran151> you have to apply a couple kernel patches
[03:42] <Xanadu> mebaran151 don't worry i know - i've been battlign for days
[03:42] <mebaran151> to make it multiple keyboard friendly
[03:42] <Xanadu> arg! patches!
[03:42] <holycow> Razor-X, welcome to linux, enjoy your stay :)
[03:42] <Xanadu> i can never get patches to work on ubuntu for some reason
[03:42] <Deffie> nopea sincerely i dont know the printer or its problems with linux but trying with parallel port might help
[03:42] <nopea> Deffie, if I recall it did this in Fedora too
[03:42] <americanLoki> hi all
[03:42] <ubuntu> when it boots up, does it try to prode much modules?
[03:42] <nopea> Deffie, thanks buts its USB 2 only :(
[03:42] <raiz> where is java on your system?  Mine seems to be misplaced...
[03:43] <Razor-X> holycow: I doubt i'll be leaving any time soon ;-P
[03:43] <transgress> yeah i'm aware there is a wiki for skype, but i've got it all set up and running, but i can't get anyone to hear me with it... and my mic works fine in TeamSpeak... anyone got a suggestion?
[03:43] <Xanadu> ok megaran151 start at the beginning: how do you apply a patch correctly in ubuntu?
[03:43] <ubuntu> when it boots up, does it try to prode much modules?
[03:43] <holycow> Razor-X, that is the general tendency, windows is a horrible environment to haveto use
[03:43] <^thehatsrule^> Razor-X, time for a game of tetrinet?
[03:43] <holycow> except for games
[03:43] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Hi
[03:44] <ubuntu> does it display in framebuffer?
[03:44] <Lathiat> ubuntu: could you please reprase your question
[03:44] <Razor-X> ^thehatsrule^: yes! although, not today
[03:44] <Razor-X> do I have to add anything to my sources.list?
[03:44] <Razor-X> so, i'll have it setup to play tomorrow
[03:44] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Most hardware is auto-deteted and appropriate modules loaded
[03:44] <Razor-X> (dad will come home soon :\)
[03:44] <Lathiat> ubuntu: and framebuffers are not used by default
[03:44] <ubuntu> when the kernel is loading, does it try to prode much modules?
[03:44] <vigilanty> how do i install apps that i download off of the net, like opera or trillian?
[03:44] <ih8evil> What packages do I use to install wine?
[03:45] <Lathiat> ih8evil: just the wine package
[03:45] <Lathiat> vigilanty: it depends what you download
[03:45] <ih8evil> I tried that
[03:45] <DonL> ubuntu, I always try to turn on any peripherals when booting, and have had good luck so far
[03:45] <Lathiat> vigilanty: the easiest way is to get a .deb package
[03:45] <ubuntu> at the installation, do we have to configure the kernel we're installing?
[03:45] <Razor-X> nope
[03:45] <vigilanty> Lathiat, let's say i download opera
[03:45] <Lathiat> vigilanty: trillian will not run, that is a windwos program
[03:45] <batkins_> Lathiat: i tired sudo apt-get install wine, didn't work
[03:45] <vigilanty> how do i make it work with this os?
[03:45] <Razor-X> you can take a look at the install guide
[03:45] <Xanadu> vigilanty: click System, Administration, Synaptec Package Management
[03:45] <Lathiat> batkins_: Have you enabled the universe repository?
[03:45] <batkins_> Lathiat: nope
[03:45] <Xanadu> vigilanty: enter your root password
[03:45] <batkins_> Lathiat: how do i do that?
[03:46] <vigilanty> ok
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: go system->adminitration->synaptic
[03:46] <Razor-X> vigilanty: you can't, but there are alternatives, such as, GAIM, or Kopete
[03:46] <ubuntu> or it installs a default kernel as fedora or other do?
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: settings->preferences
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: add
[03:46] <Razor-X> well, you maybe can, but, i'm not sure...
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: check universe, multiverse
[03:46] <Xanadu> vigilanty: click reload
[03:46] <Razor-X> not exactly the WINE expert
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: hit ok to everything adn reload
[03:46] <Xanadu> vigilanty: search and tick whatever you want, and click apply
[03:47] <DonL> Synaptic's great
[03:47] <Xanadu> vigilanty: once it's done, hit Alt-F2 and type "killall gnome-panel" to reload your menus
[03:47] <ubuntu> do you all use the same kernel, you guess?
[03:47] <raiz> Xanadu: Where are your java files stored?
[03:47] <rhys-hynaws> Is anyone else having problems with Open Office--ubuntu-stable, and it freezing up often, especially when one clicks on a misspelled word?
[03:47] <Razor-X> holycow: where's Firefox located on the system?
[03:47] <vigilanty> it didn't find it
[03:47] <raiz> Mine seem to have walked off...
[03:47] <Xanadu> raiz: on my Puter. Why?
[03:47] <DonL> Xanadu, Alt-escape does that too
[03:47] <Razor-X> ubuntu: some people use different kernels
[03:47] <raiz> lol
[03:48] <ubuntu> ok!
[03:48] <vigilanty> Razor-x, why can't I?
[03:48] <Xanadu> Donl: kewl!
[03:48] <ubuntu> human distribution, not like gentoo :d
[03:48] <batkins_> Lathiat: i don't see Add in preferences
[03:48] <holycow> Razor-X, you mean installed or in the menu?
[03:48] <Razor-X> or, anyone, where's Firefox located on the system?
[03:48] <ubuntu> thx
[03:48] <goldfish> Razor-X: 'locate firefox'
[03:48] <raiz> Because I need to source them.
[03:48] <Razor-X> vigilanty: Windows programs don't work in linux
[03:48] <vigilanty> At opera's download page, there is a version of it for download for ubuntu
[03:48] <Razor-X> goldfish: doh!
[03:48] <batkins_> Razor-X: the executable is /usr/bin/firefox normally
[03:48] <holycow> what goldfish said
[03:48] <rhys-hynaws> Razor-X, try /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[03:49] <holycow> both are correct
[03:49] <rhys-hynaws> Is anyone else having problems with Open Office--ubuntu-stable, and it freezing up often, especially when one clicks on a misspelled word?
[03:49] <holycow> and manuals are in another directory ... i forget which
[03:49] <Lathiat> batkins_: repostiroeies, not preferences
[03:49] <holycow> help files i mean
[03:49] <Razor-X> ahh,, then I believe Kubuntu doesen't come with Firefox
[03:49] <Lathiat> batkins_: my bad, i said the wrong word
[03:49] <Razor-X> ah well, Konqueror is nice enough for me
[03:49] <Xanadu> don't listen to them Razor-X: /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[03:49] <holycow> Razor-X, do ctrl / l in the konq window
[03:49] <raiz> Xanadu: because I need to source my java files.
[03:49] <Razor-X> Xanadu: tried that too
[03:49] <rhys-hynaws> Razor-X, Kubuntu is kde using Conquerorinstead of firefox
[03:49] <Razor-X> that's what I thought
[03:49] <holycow> theres another shortcut for splitting it the other way too
[03:50] <ubuntu> a friend of mine tried ubuntu and just after the installation, some application didn't work, i.e: mozilla was loading but always crashed. can someone tell me the issue?
[03:50] <Razor-X> now I have to look up Java in Konqueror
[03:50] <Xanadu> razor-x: try "which firefox"
[03:50] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Well the issue could be a number of things
[03:50] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Was this a hoary install ?
[03:50] <ubuntu> yeah
[03:50] <rhys-hynaws> Ubuntu... they had a shittycomputer, or they wereusing bad sources.
[03:50] <holycow> Ubuntico, never heard of that problem, what are his system specs?
[03:50] <Xanadu> raiz have u installed java? it's quite a mission
[03:50] <ubuntu> none of these...
[03:50] <Lathiat> ubuntu: The odds are its a hardware problem
[03:50] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Is it an x86 computer?
[03:50] <raiz> I'm not sure...
[03:50] <Xanadu> raiz: doesn't come standard with ubuntu
[03:51] <rhys-hynaws> Is anyone else having problems with Open Office--ubuntu-stable, and it freezing up often, especially when one clicks on a misspelled word?
[03:51] <ubuntu> that was a standard installation on a good computer :s
[03:51] <DonL> Xanadu, yes, I wish Java was easier to install
[03:51] <raiz> I did install some java stuff a while ago...
[03:51] <holycow> rhys-hynaws, not me :/
[03:51] <Lathiat> ubuntu: I recommend he hit escape at the ubuntu loading menu (its a count down before boot), and choose 'memtest86' and let that run for a few hours
[03:51] <Razor-X> Xanadu: tried it, but , no luck
[03:51] <raiz> So how did you do it?
[03:51] <Burgundavia> DonL, blame Sun
[03:51] <rhys-hynaws> holycow ty
[03:51] <Lathiat> ubuntu: If that doesn't work, they would need to join so I can try figure the problem out with them
[03:51] <mebaran151> anyone want to help me a fix a virtual printer device
[03:51] <holycow> DonL, its super easy, add reposityr, apt-get install java or whatever?
[03:51] <Xanadu> /usr/bin/java
[03:51] <mebaran151> it is not a task for the fait at heart
[03:51] <Razor-X> Lathiat: Ubuntu doesen't default hide boot menu
[03:52] <DonL> holycow, never saw that. The easiest I found was the unofficial Ubuntu
[03:52] <Lathiat> Razor-X: it does if you don't have windows installed
[03:52] <vigilanty> maybe I'm not asking my question correctly...  How am i to install the Ubuntu version of Opera?
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: Goto the ubuntu site
[03:52] <holycow> DonL, its on the website, 1.5 jre is now packaged for ubuntu
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: errr, opera site
[03:52] <vigilanty> ok
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: download the .deb debian package
[03:52] <ubuntu> you know, that person already installed gentoo, fedora and other distribution with success...
[03:52] <vigilanty> done
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: then as root in a console
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[03:52] <DonL> holycow, that's what I'm using, 1.5
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: you may need to, after that, run apt-get -f install
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: if it fails
[03:52] <Xanadu> raiz: do you want the java plugin for firefox or the whole jre or the sdk?
[03:52] <Razor-X> Lathiat: oh, woops ;-P
[03:53] <ubuntu> he was looking the distro that matches his needs...
[03:53] <raiz> jre
[03:53] <Razor-X> vigilanty: Ubuntu doesen't have Opera
[03:53] <vigilanty> unh hunh
[03:53] <raiz> I'm trying to get azureus to work.
[03:53] <Razor-X> but, Linux does ;-P
[03:53] <holycow> DonL, the general rule of thumb in debian world is wait a while, everything gets packaged eventually, and never use non packaged installation methods ... those can be tedious to clean up
[03:53] <Lathiat> ubuntu: It is unfortunate that is happening
[03:53] <ubuntu> simple to use, easy to maintain...
[03:53] <Razor-X> (i'm an Opera fan too, by the way)
[03:53] <DonL> anybody worried about the new flaws found in Firefox?
[03:53] <Lathiat> ubuntu: However, those sorts of problems can't be diagnosed with a simple description of "it crashes"
[03:53] <ubuntu> i know, one day, i experienced the same problem on mandrake lol
[03:53] <Burgundavia> DonL, not really
[03:53] <vigilanty> razor-X, there IS a version of opera available for dowload from the Opera website.
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: I would need mroe information, like where the CD came from, what they have done after install, what applications crash when doing what
[03:54] <DonL> I understand, holycow . Found out about unsupported installs
[03:54] <holycow> ubuntu, nothing simpler than ubuntu, but ... its hard to guess what the issue is without him either being here or someone having a looksee at the box
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: and then
[03:54] <Xanadu> raiz: for that you just need the jre plugin for firefox i think
[03:54] <raiz> And it seems to want something in /usr/java  it points me to the JRE 1.4.x
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: if i could help them live to get some extra information if i can't figure it out from that
[03:54] <Xanadu> raiz: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[03:54] <Razor-X> holycow: if I were to download a for Debian package, hsould it be for Sarge or Woody? (or Potato?)
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: its possible for example
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: they installed the 686 kernel on a non 686 machine
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: or something
[03:54] <raiz> That's what I've been working with...
[03:54] <Razor-X> vigilanty: hold on while I look up the specifics of Opera for Linux
[03:54] <Burgundavia> Razor-X, sid
[03:54] <mebaran151> I've gone a around the pkg manager before
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: many things are possible
[03:54] <ubuntu> have you never seen an application laoding in the window bar and never come in front of you to finally disapper :s
[03:54] <holycow> neither, ubuntu is unstable, your taking yoru chances either way
[03:54] <Razor-X> Burgundavia: ok
[03:54] <rhys-hynaws> Where is the 3rd Party applicationsprogram thigner?
[03:54] <mebaran151> use checkinstall normally
[03:54] <mebaran151> but somethings dont work out
[03:55] <Burgundavia> holycow, ubuntu is not unstable
[03:55] <Xanadu> raiz: did it instal lok?
[03:55] <holycow> Burgundavia, debian unstable ....
[03:55] <Xanadu> install ok even
[03:55] <Burgundavia> holycow, that is different
[03:55] <Razor-X> .....
[03:55] <holycow> yes, thats what i meant, typo
[03:55] <Lathiat> holycow: ubuntu is different
[03:55] <Lathiat> holycow: oh, right
[03:55] <ubuntu> lol
[03:55] <holycow> Lathiat, no, its debian unstable with minor modifications :)
[03:55] <ubuntu> exactly
[03:55] <batkins_> Lathiat: thanks, got it working
[03:55] <Lathiat> holycow: wrong
[03:55] <batkins_> Lathiat: synaptic is pretty cool
[03:55] <holycow> okay, prove it
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: It's based off a debian unstable snapshot
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: adn the core of the distro is heavily changed
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: and looked after it
[03:56] <DonL> synaptic rocks!
[03:56] <holycow> Lathiat, no
[03:56] <holycow> heh
[03:56] <Razor-X> vigilanty: are you using Ubuntu or Kbuntu?
[03:56] <holycow> "core" of the distro
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: core == main
[03:56] <holycow> that first of all means nothing
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: as opposed to universe, which is looked after less
[03:56] <Xanadu> can anyone tell me how to correctly patch the ubuntu kernel???
[03:56] <Burgundavia> holycow, Ubuntu is a delta of unstable
[03:56] <vigilanty> ubuntu
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: Alot of that work is original, for example Xorg, gnome
[03:56] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, why do you need to patch it?
[03:56] <holycow> Lathiat, heh, no, thats stupid, if it is heavily forked i'm going back to debian
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: does not mean it is unstable, that is simply debians terminolog
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: you misunderstand
[03:57] <Xanadu> burgundavia, cause i want to run two seperate keyboards for my two seperate Gnome sessions
[03:57] <DonL> holycow, I see it as being a stabilized debian
[03:57] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, ah
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: its very based off debian, and alot of universe is more or less a direct import bar some minor fixes to workw ith ubuntu
[03:57] <ubuntu> well thx for your help, the pb was resolved by choosing fedora, sorry you all here :s
[03:57] <rhys-hynaws> Who is using OO2 here?
[03:57] <Xanadu> burgundavia, apparently that means patching but i'd happily avoid that if possible
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: however in main, alot of stuff are done by ubuntu themselves, because that work is not done in debian
[03:57] <mebaran151> Xanadu, the Zen Linux project might be good for you
[03:57] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, never done it, sorry
[03:57] <holycow> *sigh*
[03:57] <mebaran151> or the patches for multihead
[03:57] <mdz> holycow: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/document_view should explain adequately
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: for example ubuntu maintains Xorg, and a much more up to date gnome, faster
[03:58] <holycow> Lathiat, your being pedantic about the details
[03:58] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, Xen won't help him
[03:58] <mebaran151> if he had two kernels
[03:58] <holycow> the work is being put back into debian unstable
[03:58] <Lathiat> holycow: and keep in mind that alot of these changes are helped and pushed upstream to debian by the various developers
[03:58] <mebaran151> wouldnt they be pointable to different keyboards
[03:58] <Lathiat> holycow: No i am not
[03:58] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, xen is more than 2 kernels. It is 2 oses
[03:58] <ubuntu> have some people here already tried gentoo???
[03:58] <mebaran151> Yeah
[03:58] <mebaran151> I did
[03:58] <mebaran151> it wasnt any fun
[03:58] <DonL> Not me
[03:58] <holycow> Lathiat, i'll just stop talking right here, your pissing me off
[03:58] <mebaran151> four hours of compile errors
[03:58] <guruff> hey; i need a video chat soft that will work with something from windows world (not gnomemeeting) any ideas; i have searched net but somehow i can't see anything
[03:58] <ubuntu> and use it for long before choosing ubuntu?
[03:58] <Lathiat> holycow: Thats fine.
[03:58] <ubuntu> lol
[03:58] <Lathiat> holycow: good day.
[03:59] <tovella> ubuntu: I've tried gentoo.
[03:59] <rhys-hynaws> Who is using OO2 here? type: 33
[03:59] <mebaran151> gnome meeting should work
[03:59] <mebaran151> with windows of course
[03:59] <Xanadu> burgundavia, mebaran151 i've checked out some kernel patches (was trying to patch to the AC kernel) but for some reason my builds always fail in Ubuntu
[03:59] <mebaran151> yeah
[03:59] <ubuntu> what kind of linux users are you all?
[03:59] <mebaran151> I dont like kernel patching and such on Ubuntu
[03:59] <vigilanty> Lathiat, when i tried your advice for installing opera, this is what i got...
[03:59] <DonL> I had a windows freak over the other night who was extremely surprised by the speed and functionality of this young upstart linux thing
[04:00] <vigilanty> cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:00] <vigilanty> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:00] <vigilanty>  opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[04:00] <mebaran151> I think that you should use probably a distor like Gentoo
[04:00] <mebaran151> or something
[04:00] <holycow> DonL, its not that young actually
[04:00] <holycow> some parts of it are, some arent
[04:00] <Xanadu> mebaran151 so basically i'm pretty screwed?
[04:00] <DonL> I know, but that was what he said
[04:00] <mebaran151> something that is really source based
[04:00] <DonL> or implied
[04:00] <mebaran151> you aren't pretty screwed
[04:00] <Burgundavia> vigilanty, did you append sudo in front of dpkg ?
[04:00] <Lathiat> vigilanty: hang on
[04:00] <mebaran151> it is just a lot of work
[04:00] <Lathiat> vigilanty: private messsage
[04:00] <holycow> DonL, yeah most people are only hearing about it now
[04:01] <mebaran151> where did you get your Kernel source
[04:01] <Xanadu> from apt
[04:01] <mebaran151> and did you make menuconfig correctly?
[04:01] <Xanadu> yup
[04:01] <Xanadu> works fine until i patch
[04:01] <DonL> holycow, it's been 5 years for me, and you?
[04:01] <mebaran151> you might have forgotten to enable agp or something
[04:01] <ubuntu> i can't believe your PCs boot up in less than 20s with the default kernel :s is it really true?!
[04:01] <mebaran151> mine does
[04:01] <Xanadu> was trying to patch for something else but my experience put me off patching ubuntu
[04:01] <mebaran151> I am on a AMD64 +3500 work station though
[04:01] <DonL> ubuntu, using gnome, yes
[04:01] <ubuntu> lol ok...
[04:01] <mebaran151> that patch probably was for something else
[04:02] <mebaran151> maybe a little buggy
[04:02] <DonL> When I used to use KDE, it was much longer
[04:02] <ubuntu> with much modprobes etc...
[04:02] <mebaran151> try a good one
[04:02] <mebaran151> my friend did it in Nepal
[04:02] <holycow> DonL, you got 3 on me :)
[04:02] <mebaran151> he was trying to save buget at the local school
[04:02] <Xanadu> yeah it was for support for the it8212 raid card, using the AC patch for Debian
[04:02] <holycow> <-- very much a newb still
[04:02] <mebaran151> becareful
[04:02] <mellinux> hey fellas, is is possible to play music off of a windows-formatted harddrive in linux? ubuntu uses a separate hard drive than the winXP one. any ideas
[04:02] <mellinux> ?
[04:02] <DonL> holycow, I'm still a newbie
[04:02] <mebaran151> Xanadu, Debian patches are not Ubuntu patches
[04:02] <Lathiat> mellinux: yes, you are able to mount your windows partitions
[04:02] <Xanadu> also tried some other patches (all for that card) but crashed and burnt
[04:02] <Lathiat> mellinux: hang on a second
[04:02] <holycow> mellinux, you can read files from ntfs, yes
[04:02] <mebaran151> the kernels are probably built with different options
[04:02] <mebaran151> and the sources are patched with other patches
[04:03] <ubuntu> do you all use apt?
[04:03] <mebaran151> so it is a mixed bag
[04:03] <mebaran151> well yes
[04:03] <Xanadu> mebaran151 where can i get clean ubuntu patches?
[04:03] <mebaran151> in the repoos
[04:03] <mebaran151> they are patches for about everything
[04:03] <Xanadu> repoos?
[04:03] <mebaran151> repos
[04:03] <mebaran151> on synaptic
[04:03] <Lathiat> repositories
[04:03] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, get the ubuntu kernel source, and patch that
[04:03] <mebaran151> haha
[04:03] <DonL> ubuntu, I think you have to use apt with Ubuntu, but that's great
[04:03] <Xanadu> i've looked thru all the patches on synaptic and haven't found what i need yet
[04:04] <DonL> Synaptic is just a gui for apt
[04:04] <Burgundavia> ubuntu, why would you not use apt?
[04:04] <ubuntu> have you ever been obliged to use source files to install sth?
[04:04] <Xanadu> burgundavia i've got the kernel source - that's what i'm patching
[04:04] <holycow> what is sth?
[04:04] <ubuntu> like when you have your own custom ubuntu based kernel?
[04:04] <ubuntu> something sorry
[04:04] <holycow> and no, i just package up an app if i need to
[04:04] <Xanadu> well trying to patch
[04:05] <Lathiat> mellinux: Please see private message
[04:05] <DonL> Xanadu, go to http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html and get some new repositories
[04:05] <Xanadu> got them all
[04:05] <DonL> Oh
[04:05] <Xanadu> and some extras ;)
[04:05] <DonL> Oh
[04:05] <Burgundavia> DonL, please don't recommend ubuntuguide.org, it is total crack
[04:05] <nubious> I set up another user on my ubuntu Hoary setup and I'm trying to allow them to log in locally, but it's saying "GDM could not write to your authorization files.  This could mean that you are out of disk space or that your home directory could not be opened for writing.  Please contact your sysadmin".  How do I go about fixing this?  Thing is, when I went to the Users and Groups settings in Gnome under MY Login, it gives me an error:
[04:06] <Xanadu> running kernel 2.6.10-5-k7 btw
[04:06] <ubuntu> well for someone who need to compile sources which packages in apt will he have install?
[04:06] <DonL> Sorry, Burgundavia . I've had really good luck with it. What would you suggest
[04:06] <ubuntu> like gcc, make automake...
[04:06] <Burgundavia> DonL, the wiki is better
[04:06] <Burgundavia> ubuntu, build-essential
[04:06] <Xanadu> ubuntu: build-essentials, gcc, your kernel sources, and your kernel headers are good
[04:07] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, build-essential will get gcc
[04:07] <Lathiat> Zambba: its build-essential
[04:07] <DonL> I really like the Wiki. Ok. That's what I'll recommend from now on
[04:07] <Lathiat> Xanadu: rather
[04:07] <shad0w1e> when I start up I get:
[04:07] <Xanadu> what did i say?
[04:07] <shad0w1e> Starting Ubuntu...
[04:07] <shad0w1e> VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hde1
[04:07] <shad0w1e> cramfs: wrong magic
[04:07] <shad0w1e> /sbin/init: 428: cannot create /dev/null: Read-only file system
[04:07] <shad0w1e> /sbin/init: 429: cannot open /dev/console: No such file
[04:07] <ubuntu> to compile, what is the minimum needed?
[04:07] <shad0w1e> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[04:07] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: Woops. What did you do before this happened?
[04:07] <shad0w1e> anyone know what could be my problem?
[04:07] <holycow> Lathiat, i just want to appologize for being rude earlier
[04:07] <nubious> ahhhh wtf
[04:07] <mebaran151> http://www.k12ltsp.org/contents.html
[04:07] <mebaran151> Xanadu
[04:07] <nubious> now it's saying my MAIN account is out of disk space
[04:07] <mebaran151> you might want to look into that
[04:07] <Lathiat> holycow: no problem, accepted.
[04:07] <nubious> uhmmm
[04:07] <mebaran151> it is meant for schools
[04:07] <nubious> any help?
[04:08] <mebaran151> but they set up for you
[04:08] <drcode> hi all
[04:08] <mebaran151> LTSP
[04:08] <Lathiat> holycow: appologies if what i said was offensive or something.
[04:08] <nubious> whats hte term command to check disk space?
[04:08] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: I copied over my ubuntu system from an ext2 partition over to an xfs partition on a new drive, and installed GRUB
[04:08] <ubuntu> ok thx, i see...
[04:08] <rhys-hynaws> Polling: If you are using Open Office 2, type 33.
[04:08] <drcode> any on know a channel where I can ask qustions about vcd tools?
[04:08] <holycow> Lathiat, naw i was just rude, i still invest my self in my arguments sometimes and its not productive
[04:08] <family> Hey
[04:08] <ubuntu> latest ubuntu release provides a gnome 2.10 desktop?
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: oh umm
[04:09] <family> does anyone have the Automated Startup Script, the download link is broken
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: how did you copy
[04:09] <nibblesmx> ubuntu, yes
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: its possible you didnt copy it right.. (sounds like it to me)
[04:09] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: many differenet ways
[04:09] <ubuntu> ok, thx!!!
[04:09] <Xanadu> mebaran151, two problems with that: 1) it's not ubuntu, and 2) i want to learn to do it myself
[04:09] <shad0w1e> all didnt work
[04:09] <mebaran151> http://www.linux.com/howtos/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/ind_keyboards.shtml
[04:09] <shad0w1e> ill get it for you..
[04:09] <nubious> anyone?
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: because you need a number of flags to cp to get it right
[04:09] <nubious> no one?
[04:09] <foxiness> hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd -> how can i put this on startup :its need su to do it : , am try this on sessions but i think "becuse su need not work", any idea ?
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: it may be easier to just reinstall, and copy your home partition accross.
[04:10] <darkaudit> foxiness: it goes in /etc/hdparm.conf
[04:10] <Xanadu> mebaran151, been through the XFree guide but i inevitably get to the "patch your kernel" part
[04:10] <mebaran151> you have to build Xserver from scratch
[04:10] <Deffie> good night everyone
[04:10] <neoliminal> Hi.  I keep having kernel panics.  How should I diagnose the problem?
[04:10] <mebaran151> which is going to be a royal pain
[04:10] <Xanadu> mebaran151 oi vey
[04:10] <Lathiat> neoliminal: You need to explain the problem more clearly
[04:10] <mebaran151> because you probably need to patch that
[04:10] <Lathiat> neoliminal: Like, what you do to dmak eit kernel panic
[04:11] <Lathiat> neoliminal: and what is displayed on the console when it happens
[04:11] <neoliminal> On boot up, the process ends with a kernal panic.
[04:11] <mebaran151> http://karlovo.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/ruby-contrib/how-to/XFree_local_multi-user-HOWTO/index.html
[04:11] <mebaran151> this shoudl do it
[04:11] <Lathiat> mebaran151: is this for multi-person stuff?
[04:11] <neoliminal> Hmm... how should I record the kernel panic... I can't cut and paste it.
[04:11] <foxiness> dark,are u sure ? i think this setting for hdparm > command
[04:11] <Lathiat> mebaran151: i beleive the ubuntu xorg already has some support for that
[04:11] <Xanadu> mebaran151 backstreet ruby is a patch too
[04:11] <Lathiat> neoliminal: start typing ;)
[04:11] <Lathiat> neoliminal: not in here, use pastebin.com
[04:12] <ubuntu> well, i'd ask that last time, DID SOME OF YOU HAD AN APPLICATION THAT LOADED IN THE WINDOW BAR AND NEVER COME TO FRONT BUT OTHER APPLICATIONS RUN WELL...
[04:12] <Lathiat> neoliminal: or message to me in private
[04:12] <family> Hey, does anyone have the Automated Startup scripy?
[04:12] <darkaudit> mebaran151: install expert mode allows for a multi-sest install...
[04:12] <neoliminal> ok, I have to log off to get and write down the info...  it's a dual boot.
[04:12] <family> script*
[04:12] <neoliminal> back in a few minutes.
[04:12] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: sudo sh -c "find ./ -xdev -print0 | cpio -pa0V /mnt/hdb1"
[04:12] <ih8evil> I'm trying to get IE to work under wine, and I can't seem to get it to work
[04:12] <ubuntu> well, i'd ask that last time, DID SOME OF YOU HAD AN APPLICATION THAT LOADED IN THE WINDOW BAR AND NEVER COME TO FRONT BUT OTHER APPLICATIONS RUN WELL...
[04:12] <mebaran151> darkaudit, but with two keybyds
[04:12] <mebaran151> that would be weird
[04:12] <holycow> ubuntu, no, you have that problem? with what application?
[04:12] <Xanadu> darkaudit: has anyone survived an expert mode install?
[04:12] <darkaudit> ih8evil: unclean! unclean! ;)
[04:12] <holycow> ubuntu, and stop yelling
[04:13] <mebaran151> darkaudit, it cant
[04:13] <ubuntu> not me, a friend of mine with mozilla...
[04:13] <ubuntu> then firefox :s
[04:13] <mebaran151> they havent implemented it in Xorg yet
[04:13] <ubuntu> but installed with apt-get
[04:13] <mebaran151> and the code still is written
[04:13] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I know, I'mtrying to get LaunchCast to work
[04:13] <holycow> ubuntu, i don't even know what that question means? explain?
[04:13] <ubuntu> si dep were respected
[04:13] <mebaran151> Linux console code is still not designed for more than two keyboards
[04:13] <darkaudit> Xanadu: I came close... but there were unrelated screwups that botched that...
[04:14] <mebaran151> darkaudit, I did one
[04:14] <mebaran151> it wasnt THAT hard
[04:14] <mebaran151> I did it back when they called it custom or whatever
[04:14] <ih8evil> Does anyone know how to run IE under wine? I can't seem to get it to work.
[04:14] <Xanadu> mebaran151 i'm 99% of the way there so there is some stuff in xorg for multiusers - i've got two completely seperate sessions running with seperate screens and mice
[04:14] <ubuntu> you click on the application launcher then you see a new tab in the window bar...
[04:14] <ubuntu> but then, nothing...
[04:14] <darkaudit> ih8evil: sidenet
[04:14] <nubious> sweet
[04:14] <ubuntu> it disappears...
[04:14] <nubious> my setup is botched
[04:14] <nubious> hrm
[04:14] <holycow> ih8evil, don't bother, try crossover office
[04:14] <nubious> apparently my hard drive is full
[04:15] <nubious> which I know to be not true, but I can't login to gnome now
[04:15] <raiz> How can I reboot through the terminal?
[04:15] <ubuntu> both mozilla and firefox did that :s
[04:15] <nubious> raiz: sudo reboot
[04:15] <raiz> Thanks
[04:15] <nubious> n/p
[04:15] <ih8evil> holycow, doesn't that cost money?
[04:15] <holycow> ubuntu, that just means its crashing
[04:15] <Xanadu> nubious try empty your .Trash folders
[04:15] <holycow> ih8evil, yes, but it works
[04:15] <ubuntu> yes exactly! you've got the word :d
[04:15] <mebaran151> http://www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby/
[04:15] <ih8evil> holycow, I have $2.03
[04:15] <mebaran151> Xanadu that might handle it
[04:15] <holycow> ubuntu, has he tried reinstalling?
[04:15] <Xanadu> nubious i keep forgetting about that and ending up with piles of junk
[04:16] <darkaudit> ih8evil: sidenet has a wine config script that will install IE
[04:16] <stuNNed> ih8evil: lol
[04:16] <mebaran151> dll the pkg
[04:16] <mebaran151> and see if it works
[04:16] <mebaran151> if it does
[04:16] <mebaran151> maybe try to do it right and compile it yourself
[04:16] <ubuntu> no, that experience finished him lol
[04:16] <ih8evil> darkaudit, what is sidenet? do I need to download it? (I'm a n00b)
[04:16] <holycow> ih8evil, ah! *ummm* all i can tell you is that i have not had much luck running anything under wine, it works for a while, i upgrade and things to wacky :/ it's not the wine devs problem its just that development is happening all the time
[04:17] <ubuntu> but there are more and more ubuntu users, i'm getting some info here :d
[04:17] <Xanadu> sheesh which one?
[04:17] <shad0w1e> Starting Ubuntu...
[04:17] <shad0w1e> VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hde1
[04:17] <shad0w1e> cramfs: wrong magic
[04:17] <shad0w1e> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[04:17] <darkaudit> http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[04:17] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: Did you pate what commands you used to copy?
[04:17] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: as i said
[04:17] <ubuntu> are you all on ubuntu in here?
[04:17] <shad0w1e> Starting Ubuntu...
[04:17] <shad0w1e> VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hde1
[04:17] <shad0w1e> cramfs: wrong magic
[04:17] <shad0w1e> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[04:17] <holycow> ubuntu thats fine, if he is happy with a virus ridden, crappy os, that crashes all the time it self cool
[04:17] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: it would probably be easiest to reinstall, and copy your data accross
[04:17] <shad0w1e> sorry
[04:17] <shad0w1e> yes I did
[04:17] <shad0w1e>  sudo sh -c "find ./ -xdev -print0 | cpio -pa0V /mnt/hdb1"
[04:17] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: can you say again? sorry i missed it
[04:17] <ubuntu> no, he chose fedora :d
[04:17] <holycow> ubuntu if they can't handle a single app misfiring, they really should stick with ms
[04:18] <holycow> ubuntu, rofl, oh he'll be back then
[04:18] <holycow> nothing works on fedora
[04:18] <lampshade> so for people using azeurus, was that just like a manual install or what?
[04:18] <ubuntu> he handle gentoo very well for months...
[04:18] <holycow> especially software installation
[04:18] <holycow> hehe :)
[04:18] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: hrmmm
[04:18] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: i have no idea how well or bad that works
[04:18] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: but not too well apparently
[04:18] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: I noticed that when you install Ubuntu using xfs on your linux partition, it uses LILO. I'm using GRUB...
[04:19] <ubuntu> but got bored to configure kernel when he got a knew pc :s
[04:19] <darkaudit> lampshade: just upack the archive into something like ~/azureus and then run ~/azureus/./azureus
[04:19] <mebaran151> GRUB doesnt handle XFS too well yet
[04:19] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: yeh it does that because grub and xfs is a bit ugly
[04:19] <mebaran151> I dont why you would want XFS
[04:19] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: however, your problem is not that
[04:19] <shad0w1e> you sure?
[04:19] <ubuntu> personnally, i think fedora is a good polyvalent distro :D
[04:19] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: youve missed some files in /dev or not updated your /etc/fstab correctly
[04:19] <shad0w1e> _ /sbin/init: 428: cannot create /dev/null: Read-only file system
[04:19] <shad0w1e> _ /sbin/init: 429: cannot open /dev/console: No such file
[04:19] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: did you edit your /etc/fstab?
[04:20] <shad0w1e> there. I didnt pase those two lines before. I get those two errors as well on startop
[04:20] <ubuntu> yum is the equivalent of apt there...
[04:20] <GTswagger> Putting Ubuntu on my g/f's laptop... but need to know how to become root in Ubuntu...   what do I do?
[04:20] <shad0w1e> of course!
[04:20] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: need to change what is loaded to / and change its file system type
[04:20] <Xanadu> GTswagger: su -s
[04:20] <mebaran151> GTswagger, sudo
[04:20] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: I changed it to xfs
[04:20] <Xanadu> i mean sudo -s
[04:20] <mebaran151> if you want a REAL root
[04:20] <shad0w1e> from ext2
[04:20] <Xanadu> soz
[04:20] <mebaran151> in sudo -s
[04:20] <mebaran151> type passwd
[04:20] <mebaran151> and you can set a a root password
[04:20] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: did you change the hda1 to, whatever
[04:20] <GTswagger> awesome -- one sec
[04:20] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: yes
[04:20] <ubuntu> gentoo got its emerge which is a very good concept, taking sources and compile them instead of dezipping an archive :s
[04:20] <shad0w1e> hde1
[04:21] <mebaran151> otherwise it gives the local user the power to do root actions upon entry of his pword
[04:21] <shad0w1e> I also changed it in the menu.lst argument that is passed to linux
[04:21] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: then uh, i have no idea, it looks like the copy command didnt get everything
[04:21] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: do you still have your old partition?
[04:21] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I'm REALLY new to Linux, and I don't know what's going on. You think you could help guide me through this?
[04:21] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: yes, on another drive
[04:21] <shad0w1e> do you suggest I do it again?
[04:21] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: it might be easiest to reinstall ubuntu on your new partition, and then copy your data accross
[04:21] <ubuntu> well, none of you experienced the problem i enounced, i'll tell my friend to try ubuntu another time :D
[04:21] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: to save messing around all afternoon
[04:21] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: By data, do you mean home directories?
[04:21] <holycow> ubuntu, if he used gentoo, and couldn't figure out how to fix firefox on ubuntu ..... don't bother worying yoru self about that dude
[04:21] <shad0w1e> cause theres a lot more than that...
[04:22] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: yes
[04:22] <darkaudit> ih8evil: another option is installing and running winetools. It's more step-by-step.
[04:22] <GTswagger> ggrrrrrrrrrrrr
[04:22] <GTswagger> As root, # modprobe ndiswrapper keeps returning permission denied... it's 644 on ndiswrapper.ko
[04:22] <ih8evil> darkaudit, alright, where do I do that?
[04:23] <shad0w1e> okay screw it , I'll reinstall....
[04:23] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: Thanks, though
[04:23] <Lathiat> ubuntu: his problem is likely either bad hardware (ram, etc, that can be testedby choosing memtest from the boot menu)
[04:23] <Lathiat> ubuntu: or, he did something with his system
[04:23] <Lathiat> ubuntu: which was bad
[04:23] <ubuntu> no, i didn't mean to fix the issue, jsut, to know if ubuntu was the responsible...
[04:23] <mebaran151> sounds like a system
[04:23] <mebaran151> thing
[04:23] <mebaran151> sounds like someone destoryed the initrd
[04:23] <ubuntu> what if everyone knew that problem....
[04:23] <mebaran151> or something
[04:23] <Xanadu> mebaran151 i've downloaded kernel-image-2.6.0-ruby-athlon_10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[04:23] <mebaran151> ok
[04:23] <Xanadu> gonna try install it
[04:23] <Xanadu> wish me luck!
[04:23] <Lathiat> Xanadu: uh, ou really dont want that
[04:23] <mebaran151> try dpkg -i as root
[04:23] <mebaran151> ok
[04:23] <Lathiat> Xanadu: thats terribly old
[04:24] <Lathiat> Xanadu: and possibly wont work very well
[04:24] <mebaran151> heheh
[04:24] <Xanadu> hmm
[04:24] <mebaran151> what would be better Lathiat
[04:24] <mebaran151> Ruby is done with their work yet
[04:24] <Lathiat> mebaran151: What is he trying to do
[04:24] <mebaran151> he wants two keyboards
[04:24] <mebaran151> and two mice
[04:24] <mebaran151> on one computer
[04:24] <Lathiat> for two X servers?
[04:24] <Xanadu> got the two mice
[04:24] <Xanadu> lathiat yeah
[04:24] <mebaran151> two seperate but equal X  Servers
[04:24] <Lathiat> right
[04:24] <mebaran151> two mice is not heard
[04:24] <Xanadu> got everything except 2 keyboards
[04:24] <Lathiat> ubuntu has some support for that
[04:24] <drcode> any one know channel about vcd tools here in freenode?
[04:25] <mebaran151> I sound like Plessy vs. Feurgeuson
[04:25] <Lathiat> let me check hangon
[04:25] <GTswagger> Any ideas why #modprobe ndiswrapper returns operation not permitted as root??
[04:25] <drcode> I want to know if I Can put sub title into mpeg
[04:25] <ubuntu> someone uses totem?
[04:25] <mebaran151> you cant
[04:25] <Xanadu> ok whats the concensus - i shouldn't install this deb?
[04:25] <ubuntu> based on gstreamer?
[04:25] <Lathiat> Xanadu: how are the keyboards connected?
[04:25] <Lathiat> ubuntu: yeh
[04:25] <bloggernauta> i dont know the default password for root, please someone help me :)
[04:25] <mebaran151> you cant put a sub title in mpeg
[04:25] <Xanadu> one thru ps2 and one through usb
[04:25] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: there is no default root pass
[04:25] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: second, getting url
[04:25] <ubuntu> can you play dvds?
[04:25] <darkaudit> ih8evil: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/winetools_2.1.1-1~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[04:25] <mebaran151> I tried
[04:26] <bloggernauta> ow man
[04:26] <bloggernauta> i need this to configure my machine
[04:26] <darkaudit> easier to just dl this than to go mucking about with your sources.list
[04:26] <ubuntu> how to play wmv?
[04:26] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: run 'sudo su'
[04:26] <mebaran151> bloggernauta use sudo s
[04:26] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: to get root
[04:26] <drcode> If U put in sources.list the wine deb server , It will also download winetools
[04:26] <darkaudit> ubuntu: w32codecs package
[04:26] <Xanadu> lathiat i was going to try two through ps2 but i think that's a bit hard-core for now
[04:26] <mebaran151> why not do both usb
[04:26] <qwm> where can i find the ubuntu-calendar package?
[04:26] <Lathiat> Xanadu: yeh umm, im not sure how to do this stuff specifically, do you need a kernel patch?
[04:27] <mebaran151> that would probably be easier
[04:27] <mebaran151> yeah you do
[04:27] <mebaran151> you need Ruby
[04:27] <ubuntu> all of you using sudo, why not do sudo passwd and log as root...
[04:27] <bloggernauta> how can i have access to super user configs if root don't have a pass
[04:27] <Xanadu> i'm running out of usb keyboards ;)
[04:27] <mebaran151> you can wrap in a library
[04:27] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Because there is no need to
[04:27] <ubuntu> can i get it on apt?
[04:27] <mebaran151> probably
[04:27] <Lathiat> ubuntu: w32codecs?
[04:27] <ubuntu> yep
[04:27] <mello> Lathiat: hey
[04:27] <bloggernauta> but here on my machine the system ask for a pass
[04:27] <Xanadu> is there no way to seperate the keyboards on the hotplug side of things?
[04:28] <ubuntu> is it an rpm?
[04:28] <Lathiat> mello: hey
[04:28] <mello> Lathiat: i've booted ubuntu
[04:28] <ubuntu> :d
[04:28] <darkaudit> ubuntu: it's in backports, Marillat, or Cerkinfo repos
[04:28] <Lathiat> mello: o, hang on a second
[04:28] <mello> k
[04:28] <Nalioth> howdy
[04:28] <bloggernauta> i used de sudo command and nothing different happens
[04:28] <Nalioth> dagnabit it's been a long workday
[04:28] <Lathiat> mello: run "cat /proc/partitions" and paste to me in private
[04:28] <Xanadu> bloggernauta what were u expecting?
[04:29] <JDahl> Have anyone here had problems with random lock-ups on Ubuntu on a Dell Optiplex? I've had to powercycle my machine a few times - I can ping it from another host, but not ssh to it or anything. I think it has to do with a ATAPI CD-ROM errors and humongous time-outs
[04:29] <bloggernauta> :S
[04:29] <ih8evil> darkaudit, alright, time for me to show how much of a noob I am. Two files: control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, and a file(?) debian-binary. what do I do here?
[04:29] <bloggernauta> i need to configure my lan
[04:29] <mebaran151> Xanadu, the problem I think is that keybd code
[04:29] <bloggernauta> but i need the super user pass
[04:29] <mebaran151> is very kernel intensive
[04:29] <mebaran151> and is loaded quite early
[04:29] <bloggernauta> and i haven't becaus my pass dont work
[04:29] <synd> can anyone help me figure out why my CD Player is skipping when playing CDs?
[04:29] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: how are you tryign to configure your LAN
[04:29] <blake> hellow
[04:29] <mebaran151> it is not really controlled by hotplug
[04:29] <neoliminal> ok, so now I can't make it crash.
[04:29] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: most things on ubuntu ask you to enter our password
[04:29] <bloggernauta> by the common way
[04:29] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: the same one you login with
[04:30] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: *your passwor
[04:30] <Lathiat> d
[04:30] <bloggernauta> i see
[04:30] <hp> what happened with the root password?
[04:30] <darkaudit> ih8evil: you want to just dl it to your home dir, then run sudo dpkg -i (whatever the filename is)
[04:30] <Nalioth> synd how old is the CD drive?
[04:30] <IIIEars> Welcome fellow new Ubuntu users (((HUG))) - lol
[04:30] <darkaudit> you don't need to unpack it
[04:30] <darkaudit> IIIEars!
[04:30] <bloggernauta> but my password dont work
[04:30] <blake> ..............so i mounted my ntfs hard drive and now it says i do not have permittion to acess the drive .............can anyone tel me how to fix that?????
[04:30] <Xanadu> IIIEars does that mean u're a new Ubuntu user?
[04:30] <ubuntu> thank you all bye!!!
[04:31] <mebaran151> blake it is a root thing
[04:31] <mebaran151> I forgot what you add
[04:31] <blake> i was in root
[04:31] <mebaran151> yeah
[04:31] <IIIEars> nah i am a seasoned newb - 2 full weeks - roflmao
[04:31] <mebaran151> whatever mounts it
[04:31] <synd> Nalioth, a couple years. its a Asus 48x!6x48
[04:31] <Lathiat> blake: add ,uid=1000
[04:31] <mebaran151> whoever mounts
[04:31] <Nalioth> synd, do you dual boot?
[04:31] <Lathiat> blake: to the options in /etc/fstab
[04:31] <mebaran151> gets only the access
[04:31] <Lathiat> blake: usually after 'defaults'
[04:31] <bloggernauta> how you do this blake
[04:31] <synd> Nalioth, no, not anymore
[04:31] <Xanadu> blake put something like this in your fstab: /dev/sda1       /mnt/C          ntfs    ro,user,gid=100,umask=0222      0      0
[04:31] <blake> how do i unmount the dard drive
[04:32] <neoliminal> where can I find information about the last crash I had?
[04:32] <Xanadu> blake: umount /mnt/C (or wherever u mounted it)
[04:32] <darkaudit> Nalioth: now, now... this is a family channel ;)
[04:32] <Nalioth> synd, was just wonderin if it worked under another OS, have you booted with knoppix/other live cd and checked function?
[04:32] <blake> i tryed ther
[04:32] <blake> that
[04:32] <neoliminal> is there a corefile?
[04:32] <Xanadu> with sudo
[04:32] <blake> but let me try again
[04:32] <Xanadu> blake with sudo
[04:33] <bloggernauta> give me the command line of sudo
[04:33] <synd> Nalioth, its worked on another OS, i used it with windows and it worked fine. got rid of windows after i got into ubuntu
[04:33] <neoliminal> When you have a kernel panic, is there log file to look at?
[04:33] <Xanadu> bloggernauta: sudo -s
[04:33] <sbcl3> where can I chose a different gnome splash screen? I hate the ubuntu brown.
[04:33] <bloggernauta> thanks
[04:33] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I get this error: " winetools depends on xdialog; however: Package xdialog is not installed. winetools depends on gtk-smooth-themes; however: Package gtk-smooth-themes is not installed. dpkg: error processing winetools (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: winetools"
[04:33] <blake> what does sudo stand for
[04:33] <synd> Nalioth, the same similar skipping happens with my laptop when playing a CD. both CD players worked fine when i was using Warty, but when i upped to Hoary, they started this skipping
[04:33] <Xanadu> super user something something
[04:34] <neoliminal> su stands for "super user"
[04:34] <neoliminal> the do stands for .. um  .. do
[04:34] <Xanadu> lol
[04:34] <IIIEars> Ubuntu Linux is the Darndest thing. - Windows locks up at least once a day. - it never happens anymore. is my computer "On"?
[04:34] <darkaudit> ih8evil: sudo apt-get install (those files)
[04:34] <synd> IIIEars, ?
[04:34] <Nalioth> synd, guess you covered all the bases, i'm at this point, lost.
[04:34] <sbcl3> anyone know where the gnome splash screens are managed?
[04:34] <neoliminal> Does anyone know if kernel panics save a log file?
[04:34] <darkaudit> then retry the dpkg -i
[04:34] <bloggernauta> someone knows how to create a home network (broadband) with linux
[04:35] <synd> Nalioth, i tried the turning on DMA.. but no use
[04:35] <bloggernauta> more or less 3 machines
[04:35] <levander> are there any irc clients that support both the yahoo and irc protocols besides gaim?
[04:35] <darkaudit> apt-get will get the dependencies. dpkg will not
[04:35] <Nalioth> synd, we have surpassed the extent of my knowledge
[04:35] <IIIEars> J/k - i can't even break Ubuntu using Synaptic multiple package redos make it very tough indeed. - lol
[04:35] <synd> Nalioth, how do i check where my cdrom is actually located?
[04:35] <levander> and, is it the general opinion that x-chat is better than gaim for irc?
[04:35] <blake> it says unmount command not found
[04:35] <synd> Nalioth, like is it /dev/cdrom?
[04:35] <Lathiat> blake: its umount, not unmount (no n)
[04:35] <Nalioth> synd issue the "mount" command all by itself
[04:35] <Lathiat> levander: most people find x-chat better
[04:36] <bloggernauta> ?
[04:36] <Lathiat> levander: but what ever works for you...
[04:36] <Xanadu> IIIEars I have managed to break Synaptic unrecoverably. It now gives me constant errors. It is impossible to fix. I am very proud of myself
[04:36] <Lathiat> Xanadu: Haha good work. what are the errors?
[04:36] <levander> Lathiat: but x-chat doesn't support yahoo protocol?
[04:36] <Lathiat> Xanadu: you may simple need to run reload
[04:36] <psychonate> levander, There is something called bitlbee that allows you to use many IM protocols in any IRC client, but it's sort of weird.
[04:36] <Lathiat> levander: no, x-chat is only for IRC
[04:36] <blake> ok thanks
[04:36] <synd> Nalioth, i see nothing that refers to the cdrom..?
[04:36] <Lathiat> levander: gaim is the better thing to use for instant messanging
[04:36] <IIIEars> rofl - okay i'll keep trying.
[04:36] <levander> Lathiat: am just getting frustrated with a few "quirks" of gaim
[04:36] <Xanadu> Lathiat it's all about Webmin or something
[04:36] <blake> where's that commnad that you sugested
[04:36] <sbcl3> anyone know where gnome's splash screen is kept?
[04:36] <Lathiat> levander: such sa?
[04:36] <blake> the drive is hdb1
[04:36] <Xanadu> Lathiat really nothing will fix it
[04:36] <sproingie> howdy.  anyone have tips on how to add debian experimental to sources.list?
[04:36] <nate____> does ssh use only TCP, or does it use UDP too?
[04:36] <Lathiat> sbcl3: yeh.. hangon
[04:37] <blake> and the location is /mnt/music
[04:37] <sproingie> tried adding it and pinning it low priority, but I get GPG errors
[04:37] <Lathiat> sbcl3: did you just want to change it?
[04:37] <sbcl3> yes
[04:37] <sproingie> W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D
[04:37] <Xanadu> To trash Synaptic: install PHP and Webmin
[04:37] <bloggernauta> someone knows?
[04:37] <darkaudit> sproingie: why?
[04:37] <Nalioth> synd i believe the hardware is located at /dev/cdrom, but ubuntue maps it to your system at /media (when something is loaded)
[04:37] <Xanadu> then download the PHP sources
[04:37] <bloggernauta> how to do a home network
[04:37] <sproingie> darkaudit: why do i want them?  because i need ghc-6.4, which isn't in breezy
[04:37] <Xanadu> then install them over your current version
[04:37] <bloggernauta> a gateway to internet
[04:37] <bloggernauta> like windows xp does
[04:37] <Xanadu> then delete your current php version manually
[04:37] <Lathiat> Xanadu: why the hell are you doing that
[04:37] <psychonate> nate____, a little trick: 'grep ssh /etc/servies'
[04:37] <Xanadu> then install PHP5 from source
[04:37] <nate____> psychonate: thanks
[04:37] <Lathiat> sproingie: umm, dude, why are you adding debian sources
[04:37] <Lathiat> sproingie: thats baddd
[04:38] <Lathiat> sproingie: what are you looking for?
[04:38] <bloggernauta> if someone knows call me in pvt please
[04:38] <psychonate> nate____, services*
[04:38] <IIIEars> xanadu - nice tip thanks - a webserver was my next project - i promise to be careful.
[04:38] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: yeh
[04:38] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: install the package
[04:38] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: 'firestarter'
[04:38] <bloggernauta> how i do this?
[04:38] <Xanadu> Lathiat the php versions on apt were just too old and had one particular bug that happened to be fired off by one of my programs
[04:38] <blake> : /dev/sda1       /mnt/C          ntfs    ro,user,gid=100,umask=0222      0      0
[04:38] <sproingie> Lathiat: just said.  ghc-6.4
[04:38] <levander> Lathiat: one, the interface is wierd.  There's a "Buddy List" that list all your buddies on the networks you've logged onto.  To log onto a network, there are like four buttons you gotta click around to find to log onto a network.  Why they don't just put all networks in that list, then you click on a network to logon, when you log on, the list expands and shows all your buddies that network... Something like that.  There are just places w
[04:38] <Lathiat> Xanadu: oh, right
[04:38] <darkaudit> sproingie: there are obscure tricks to getting experimental to work with apt. They've made it intentionally difficult to get to...
[04:38] <mebaran151> anybody here
[04:38] <blake> what does fstab stand for
[04:38] <mebaran151> crimsun anyone
[04:39] <Lathiat> levander: i just use autologin and they alll login on tstart
[04:39] <sproingie> darkaudit: actually it doesn't even work for sid
[04:39] <mebaran151> who would like to fix my virtual devices
[04:39] <levander> Lathiat: and don't some IRC clients have buttons setup for you to press to go "invisible" in IRC?
[04:39] <Xanadu> mebaran151 whats wrong with them?
[04:39] <Lathiat> sproingie: ghc is in the universe archive
[04:39] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I installed those files, attempted to 'dpkg' again, and got the same errors.
[04:39] <mebaran151> oh
[04:39] <sproingie> Lathiat: ghc-6.2 is in universe
[04:39] <Lathiat> sproingie: or did you specifically need 6.4 as opposed to 6.2 ?
[04:39] <IIIEars> maybe considering making a bootable iso server instead of a Hard drive install
[04:39] <mebaran151> my printer virtual device
[04:39] <blake> what does fstab stand for ....anyone
[04:39] <sproingie> Lathiat: 6.4, specifically.  it's for pugs
[04:39] <darkaudit> hmm...
[04:39] <psychonate> file system tab or something?
[04:39] <Lathiat> sproingie: oh, umm
[04:39] <levander> Lathiat: yeah, but I got about eight networks, 6 of them i rarely log onto
[04:39] <mebaran151> on usb:// is not set up correctly
[04:40] <blake> ook
[04:40] <blake> ok
[04:40] <bloggernauta> how can i install the firestarter?
[04:40] <Lathiat> sproingie: well ignore those errors
[04:40] <Lathiat> sproingie: install ghc
[04:40] <darkaudit> ih8evil: ok, then... you're runnin hoary?
[04:40] <Lathiat> sproingie: but then take that source back out immediately before you do anything else
[04:40] <ih8evil> darkaudit, yeah
[04:40] <Xanadu> blake: static information about the filesystems
[04:40] <psychonate> or file system table? hell if I know
[04:40] <ih8evil> darkaudit, oh, wait, it seems like I got errors when installing those
[04:40] <IIIEars> bloggernauta - add "universe" to the list of repositories in synaptic and search firestarter.
[04:40] <Lathiat> psychonate: fstab is file system tab yeh
[04:40] <psychonate> yays
[04:41] <darkaudit> ih8evil: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:41] <blake> how do i get to fstab???
[04:41] <oon_> :)
[04:41] <psychonate> the aterm included in Ubuntu is too old
[04:41] <Xanadu> you got fstab
[04:41] <darkaudit> ih8evil: add these lines: deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:41] <Nalioth> blake ubuntuforums.org
[04:41] <IIIEars> bloggernauta - logging out then back in adds makes it run without a terminal window open.
[04:41] <Xanadu> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:41] <Nalioth> blake ubuntulinux.org see the wiki
[04:41] <darkaudit> ih8evil: and: deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:42] <bloggernauta> please repeat the thing of universe
[04:42] <bloggernauta> i search for and do what?
[04:42] <Lathiat> darkaudit: what is he trying to install?
[04:42] <sproingie> Lathiat: i can't ignore the errors, it doesn't appear that it will actually update
[04:42] <darkaudit> Lathiat: winetools
[04:42] <Lathiat> sproingie: it will, its just whinging about gpg
[04:42] <Lathiat> darkaudit: bleh, ok
[04:42] <Lathiat> sproingie: it should be ignorable
[04:42] <psychonate> It was a pain in the bum bum to get one that could go borderless.
[04:42] <IIIEars> bloggernauta - while you have synaptic and "Universe enabled check out "Torsmo" system monitor it is amazing.
[04:42] <psychonate> torsmo :)
[04:43] <Xanadu> fstab officially stands for "file system table"
[04:43] <sproingie> Lathiat: ah, so it is.  actually it doesnt seem to work at all for experimental, but it does ok for unstable.  weird.
[04:43] <ih8evil> darkaudit, ok, I added those, saved, and closed
[04:43] <psychonate> Xanadu, That was my second guess up top :)
[04:43] <Lathiat> sproingie: so just install ghc, but please remove that source after
[04:43] <bloggernauta> how man i don't understand nothing
[04:43] <Lathiat> sproingie: otherwise your system will di ehorribly
[04:43] <Xanadu> 10 points psychonate
[04:43] <Lathiat> sproingie: and dont run upgrade ! :)
[04:43] <darkaudit> ih8evil: run synaptic and hit 'reload' (it's the same as apt-get update)
[04:43] <Xanadu> i just looked online - i'm too stupid to guess
[04:43] <psychonate> IIIEars, I don't like how torsmo "flicks" in and out though (I guess when it's updating)
[04:43] <bloggernauta> please call me in pvt i can't read that much, i'm a brazilian and don't understand too much
[04:44] <darkaudit> ih8evil: you'll get some errors when it starts, but it's safe to ignore them
[04:44] <Nalioth> IIIEars, torsmo didnt work for me
[04:44] <sproingie> Lathiat: i thought if i pinned it down to low level it would be ok.  but i'll take your advice
[04:44] <Xanadu> does anyone here actually work on ubuntu officially?
[04:44] <Nalioth> IIIEars, threw strange errors and wouldnt start
[04:44] <IIIEars> ibloggernauta - open synaptic - open the title bar "repositories" on the list that opens put a check mark in the "Universe" community supported libraries.
[04:44] <Lathiat> sproingie: yeh taht could work, but its generally bad
[04:44] <sproingie> aw yah there's ghc 6.4
[04:45] <sproingie> now to get to work on darcs and pugc
[04:45] <Lathiat> sproingie: woo :)
[04:45] <sproingie> pugs
[04:45] <IIIEars> nalioth - ugh - i wish i had those errors i might of been able to help.
[04:45] <revelater> how do i start the cups server again?
[04:45] <Nalioth> IIIEars, installed via apt
[04:45] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I hit reload, saw a status bar come and go. now what?
[04:45] <darkaudit> ih8evil: once it's finished updating the lists, winetools should be listed under 'new in repository'
[04:46] <IIIEars> ah - i am a linux wimp - used synaptic - though it shouldn't make a difference though should it?
[04:46] <Geezer041> Would somebody be able to help me install Firefox extensions? Noobie!!
[04:46] <darkaudit> if not, do a search for 'winetools' and install it...
[04:46] <Xanadu> Geezer041 what extensions?
[04:46] <Geezer041> not sure - flashgot
[04:46] <Geezer041> i want others too
[04:47] <Xanadu> Geezer041 click on Tools/Extensions/Get more extensions in firefox
[04:47] <Geezer041> yes, have done
[04:47] <mello> Lathiat: do you think you could help one of my friends out with the same problem?
[04:47] <Xanadu> right now pick which ones you want and click on 'em
[04:47] <Geezer041> downloaded flashgot and in xp it auto installs them
[04:47] <mello> one of our "leet" friends just showed us ubuntu
[04:47] <mello> we're newbs
[04:47] <ih8evil> darkaudit, um, where is 'new is repository'? I see winetools in the large list with a red square next to it
[04:48] <IIIEars> bloggernauta - still there? - how is it going?
[04:48] <Xanadu> Geezer041 so what's the prob?
[04:48] <Lathiat> mello: sure
[04:48] <darkaudit> ih8evil: right click on it and tell it to reinstall
[04:48] <Xanadu> Geezer041 just close and reopen firefox and they should be up & running
[04:48] <mello> sweet, he's coming
[04:48] <Geezer041> OK
[04:49] <amonkey> how can i shutdown a win2k comp (on my lan) from ubuntu(or *nix for that matter), i tried cedega shutdown.exe which is the standard windows utility for doing it, but i got some enviroment errors.
[04:49] <Geezer041> Its not there
[04:49] <Geezer041> I downloaded it but it didnt install it
[04:49] <IIIEars> anyone noticed trouble with the default email client? "Evolution" is it just me?
[04:49] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[04:49] <Xanadu> Geezer041 did u click on "Install Now"?
[04:50] <IIIEars> Hello Hybrid_Goth.
[04:50] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I get a warning: about to intall software that [b] can't be authenticated[/b] !
[04:50] <psychonate> Does anyone use the sensors package? I don't know how to set these things up.
[04:50] <Geezer041> yes
[04:50] <blake> what does rw mena
[04:50] <blake> mean
[04:50] <Xanadu> Geezer041 and it said it installed right?
[04:50] <darkaudit> ih8evil: don't worry about that... but in the future you'll need to get their GPG key...
[04:50] <darkaudit> s/need/want
[04:51] <lampshade> damn can xmms suck more
[04:51] <Geezer041> no it DL's then i have a file in the firefox DL console
[04:51] <psychonate> I like XMMS :(
[04:51] <lampshade> does it not lock constantly on you?
[04:51] <Xanadu> Geezer041 did u left-click or right-click?
[04:51] <mello> t1234: he
[04:51] <mello> y
[04:51] <Geezer041> left click on install now
[04:51] <Nalioth> IIIEars, are u familiar with evolution?
[04:51] <psychonate> lampshade, never locks up
[04:51] <t1234> yeah
[04:51] <ih8evil> darkaudit, alright, I've marked it, now just apply?
[04:51] <darkaudit> yep
[04:52] <mello> Lathiat: t1234 is his name, he's a beginner, could you help him get AAC support and his winXP harddrive working?
[04:52] <Lathiat> t1234: Hi there
[04:52] <t1234> what's up
[04:52] <IIIEars> Yes - i can set it up - it stalls after retrieving my  half of my mails and then locks up tight.
[04:52] <lampshade> I hate media in linux it never works for me.  Like I have totem working the best out of the big 3 but even that's like ok at best
[04:52] <Geezer041> Should i have R clicked and DL'd to extensions folder?
[04:52] <Lathiat> t1234: hold on a second
[04:52] <ih8evil> darkaudit, alright, now what?
[04:52] <Lathiat> t1234: just figuring out aac supprot
[04:52] <Nalioth> does anyone in here know what happened to the weather part of Evolution?
[04:52] <t1234> alright cool
[04:53] <Lathiat> t1234: what program are you using to play AAC files?
[04:53] <Xanadu> Okay Geezer041 it's doing the same to me :(
[04:53] <darkaudit> ih8evil: open a terminal and runn winetools
[04:53] <amonkey> lampshade: the most annoying thing for me in ubuntu is that embedded videos usually work right.
[04:53] <t1234> in windows im using itunes
[04:53] <mello> he's using rhythmbox
[04:54] <mello> default
[04:54] <mello> it's what i use, it works just fine
[04:54] <psychonate> lampshade, I prefer XMMS for audio, mplayer for video, and XINE for DVDs heh
[04:54] <t1234> well in ubuntu
[04:54] <Nalioth> t1234, you go, mister!
[04:54] <Lathiat> t1234: in that case
[04:54] <Lathiat> t1234: you may like rhythmbox
[04:54] <Lathiat> t1234: it has a similar style of interface
[04:55] <Lathiat> t1234: ok so to install AAC support for that, we need to do a couple of things
[04:55] <IIIEars> totem for DVDs isn't the best - I'll try XINE
[04:56] <psychonate> I really like XINE for DVDs
[04:56] <ChrisC_> howdy folks ... I'm setting up a hoary machine ...
[04:56] <hybrid_goth> Lathiat: i believe mplayer plays aac
[04:56] <darkaudit> IIIEars: xine is my favorite movie player...
[04:56] <hybrid_goth> the *real* mplayer
[04:56] <psychonate> good menu support
[04:56] <Lathiat> hybrid_goth: yeh, so can gstreamer stuff
[04:56] <ChrisC_> does the default hoary install have an ftpd running?
[04:56] <samuel> sup all
[04:56] <hybrid_goth> not ubuntu mplayer
[04:56] <Lathiat> t1234: sorry please wait a little longer
[04:56] <t1234> no problem
[04:56] <samuel> im thinking of simply getting rid of windows altogether and running win4lin
[04:57] <samuel> any experiences with win4lin out there?
[04:57] <IIIEars> synaptic is great i have installed XINE already. - wide grin
[04:57] <darkaudit> samuel: you have to pay for software updates
[04:57] <Lathiat> samuel: never used it, i foudn vmware good tho for running windows
[04:57] <samuel> i dont really want to pay 100 USD and then find out its not much better than wine
[04:57] <Xanadu> mplayer sucks and xine sucks most
[04:57] <Lathiat> samuel: and qemu is a good open source and free alternative
[04:57] <ih8evil> darkaudit, i went through and an error came up: "Wine has exited with a failure status of 2"
[04:57] <Xanadu> you people should try vlc
[04:57] <Lathiat> eww vlc, totem. :)
[04:58] <samuel> Lathiat, qemu? is that like wine?
[04:58] <Lathiat> samuel: no
[04:58] <Lathiat> samuel: its a computer emulator
[04:58] <darkaudit> grumble... lemme see...
[04:58] <Lathiat> samuel: runs a copy of windows in a "virtual computer"
[04:58] <hybrid_goth> Xanadu: Looks to complicated... i didnt see a folder with all the codecs
[04:58] <Lathiat> t1234: ok, so
[04:58] <samuel> Lathiat, i see.... same as vmware?
[04:58] <sbcl3> no one knows where the gnome splash screen can be changed?
[04:58] <Lathiat> samuel: yes
[04:58] <Xanadu> hybrid_goth why you telling me?
[04:58] <lampshade> yeah I take that back, the only thing that works for me is totem.  The rest choke and die
[04:59] <Lathiat> sbcl3: install gtweakui
[04:59] <Lathiat> sbcl3: and you can use that to change it
[04:59] <samuel> Lathiat, thanks, ill look into that!
[04:59] <lampshade> consistently, that's really odd.  And kinda pathetic imho...... wtf is going on
[04:59] <hybrid_goth> Xanadu: you said we should try vlc
[04:59] <ChrisC_> does the default hoary install have an ftpd running?
[04:59] <Xanadu> yeah
[04:59] <Xanadu> vlc rocks the party
[04:59] <Lathiat> ChrisC_: no
[04:59] <Lathiat> ChrisC_: No external services are running by default
[05:00] <samuel> Lathiat, would i be installing windows into qemu sort of thing?
[05:00] <Lathiat> samuel: yes
[05:00] <Xanadu> i use vlc on windowz and ubuntu
[05:00] <Nalioth> Xanadu, i only like vlc in its Mac OSX guise
[05:00] <darkaudit> ih8evil: ok... back to sidenet... download the recent binaries to your home folder and run setup from there... it'll walk you through what's needed
[05:00] <Lathiat> t1234: Are you around?
[05:00] <ChrisC_> I tried to install vsftpd but it won't start (or I don't know how to properly start it)
[05:00] <t1234> yeah im here
[05:00] <Lathiat> ChrisC_: proftpd works
[05:00] <darkaudit> http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[05:00] <t1234> just instruct me
[05:00] <Lathiat> t1234: ok so go
[05:00] <Xanadu> i've found it pretty similar on ubuntu and windowz which is one of the reasons i like it Nalioth - guess it should be similar on Mac
[05:00] <samuel> Lathiat, thanks... im on it...
[05:00] <Lathiat> t1234: system->administration->synaptic package manager
[05:00] <Xanadu> vlc plays EVERYTHING
[05:01] <t1234> got it
[05:01] <darkaudit> ih8evil: when it asks you what to do, open the archive manager and extract to your home folder
[05:01] <hybrid_goth> MPlayer play everyone
[05:01] <Lathiat> t1234: then select settings->repositories
[05:01] <Lathiat> t1234: select add, then press custom
[05:01] <Lathiat> t1234: then paste this line into th ebox
[05:01] <Lathiat> t1234: deb http://apt.cerkinfo.be/ unstable main contrib non-free
[05:01] <t1234> okay
[05:01] <t1234> done
[05:01] <darkaudit> hybrid_goth: I like xine's ability to skim through a clip...
[05:01] <ChrisC_> I got vsftpd to work on a warty trial run I did a few months ago, but this time I get "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket"
[05:02] <Lathiat> t1234: hit ok to everything
[05:02] <Lathiat> t1234: let it reload your package list
[05:02] <Lathiat> t1234: say when done
[05:02] <Xanadu> does Xine play real media?
[05:02] <hybrid_goth> darkaudit: mplayer does that since xine is based on it
[05:02] <Lathiat> ChrisC_: yarr, just use proftpd,i  know it works :)
[05:02] <Xanadu> does Xine play quicktime?
[05:02] <Xanadu> does Xine play wma?
[05:02] <darkaudit> Xanadu: yep
[05:02] <Lathiat> Xanadu: most of them well play anthing, depending on what codecs you have installed
[05:02] <ChrisC_> Lathiat: ok, thanks :)
[05:02] <t1234> uhhh its done but it said "could not download all repositories
[05:03] <Xanadu> so Xine and mplayer are related?
[05:03] <Lathiat> t1234: ermm, does this machine have internet access?
[05:03] <Lathiat> t1234: sure it isnt just complaining about GPG? (cus thats not a problem)
[05:03] <t1234> im not sure..but yeah i have internet access
[05:04] <psychonate> yays, sensors working
[05:04] <Xanadu> i gotta say mplayer does something to the colours that just makes everything look sooo pretty - some fancy algorithms going down there
[05:04] <Nalioth> Xanadu, i've only used it on the Mac and ubuntu, and i find the UI quite different (guess thats the weird mac look, eh?)
[05:04] <transgress> how dangerous is it to install transcode from testing?
[05:04] <psychonate> I prefer to use mplayer from the CL
[05:04] <Xanadu> nalioth yeah those mac guys like to skin everything up don't they?
[05:05] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I'm on "Open Files", with two empty boxes
[05:05] <Nalioth> Xanadu, i think its in the mac dev bible or something
[05:05] <Xanadu> lol
[05:05] <darkaudit> ih8evil: did you already extract the sidenet binaries?
[05:06] <Xanadu> nalioth there's something to be said about programmers who think about user interface *first* and not *last*
[05:06] <ih8evil> darkaudit, ah, extracting. skipped a step
[05:06] <blake> ok
[05:06] <Xanadu> damn i gotta get to bed! got work tomorrow (well today actually)
[05:07] <cuti> what is ubuntu stand for people
[05:07] <mello> good
[05:07] <cuti> what is it mean
[05:07] <mello> awesome
[05:07] <cuti> oh
[05:07] <cuti> really?
[05:07] <mello> humanity towards others
[05:07] <cuti> it's not english?
[05:07] <mello> no, heee i'm kididng
[05:07] <yyc747> what exactly has to be done during install to select an already created empty partition?  my friend claimed it wiped his windows partition during install, and I want to know if it was an easy mistake to make, or whether he's just stupid
[05:07] <mello> it's an african language
[05:07] <cuti> oh
[05:07] <mello> yep
[05:08] <cuti> cool
[05:08] <mello> weird name, but it makes sense
[05:08] <cuti> :D
[05:08] <cuti> yeah very weird
[05:08] <blake> i have mounted the drive and i can ONLY acess them in the root term is there any other way around this?
[05:08] <darkaudit> ih8evil: once extracted, open a terminal, cd to the folder you extracted to, and run ./setup
[05:08] <mello> and it dominates linux
[05:08] <Lathiat> blake: are you mounting a windwos partition?
[05:08] <blake> them being the folders in the drive
[05:08] <Xanadu> blake have u mounted through fstab?
[05:08] <Lathiat> blake: if so, edit our fstab, and add ",uid=1000" to the options, probably after default
[05:08] <cuti> lol
[05:08] <cuti> my bad, thanks zeeble :)
[05:08] <blake> i don't know how to edit the fstab
[05:09] <cuti> vim blake
[05:09] <blake> it looks really hard
[05:09] <Xanadu> blake: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:09] <Xanadu> just go to the end of the file
[05:09] <Xanadu> hang on ill msg you this is gonna get comple
[05:09] <mainer> i like nano:)
[05:09] <Xanadu> x
[05:09] <darkaudit> ih8evil: it'll step you through what you need to do, and also dl what it needs...
[05:09] <stormy73034> i hate vi
[05:09] <mainer> yep
[05:09] <blake> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[05:09] <blake> #
[05:09] <blake> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[05:09] <blake> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[05:09] <blake> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[05:09] <blake> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:09] <blake> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[05:09] <zeeble> yikes
[05:09] <blake> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[05:09] <blake> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[05:09] <darkaudit> oops :)
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> blake, there's www.pastebin.com for that
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> tip i learned here on this channel
[05:10] <hybrid_goth> wow
[05:10] <hybrid_goth> hey nomasteryoda
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> hey
[05:11] <stormy73034> should i setup a ubuntu web server or a differnt flavor
[05:12] <zeeble> stormy73034: ubuntu web-server? or do you mean apache?
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> stormy73034, ubuntu will work nicely for a web server..
[05:12] <stormy73034> apache running on ubuntu
[05:12] <stormy73034> k
[05:12] <stormy73034> debian?
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> ampache too if you want to access your music from afar
[05:12] <zeeble> stormy73034: will work just fine. just follow standard securing procedures
[05:13] <zeeble> the heck is ampache?
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> mp3, ogg, media player
[05:13] <stormy73034> typo
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> google it
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> not type
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> not typo
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:13] <zeeble> hehe, it exists. nice :)
[05:13] <stormy73034> ahhhhhh
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> yea
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> try the demo
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> very cool
[05:14] <stormy73034> cool just started to play with linux i found this flavor to be the best for my tasts
[05:14] <zeeble> not bad. looks like audioscrobbler
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> stormy73034, Ubuntu is pretty darn cool
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> rated one of the best distros
[05:15] <stormy73034> nomasteryoda yeah i really like it
[05:15] <Lathiat> Sorry guys
[05:15] <Lathiat> I have to go, time for a break
[05:15] <Lathiat> the couple people I'm still helping in private I will finsih with
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> zeeble, you can get a pre-packaged setup for ampache too at apacheusers.org... #ampache guys told me about it
[05:15] <stormy73034> i tried debian mandrake susie and slackware ohhh knoppitx
[05:16] <mainer> arch is nice,too,i686 and you can do just minimal install,too
[05:17] <mainer> cross between gentoo/crux/arch's own stuff
[05:17] <mvbr> Hello, how would I go abouts partitioning my harddrive?
[05:17] <mainer> from installer?
[05:18] <mvbr> in general [ i think ] 
[05:19] <mainer> i'll hunt for a link
[05:19] <mvbr> thanks :)
[05:20] <zeeble> using fdisk... simple partitioning would be about one / of about 4-5GB, and a /home of 2-3GB, and a 512MB swap. if you want something more elaborate, then it depends on your needs. you'll want /home, /, /boot, /usr, /usr/local, /var, /opt and swap...
[05:20] <mvbr> mmm fdisk thanks :D
[05:21] <zeeble> Does your comp have a floppy drive?
[05:21] <mvbr> Yes.
[05:21] <zeeble> Ok, then if you have access to a DOS boot disk, then check out http://www.ranish.com, they have a fairly nice free partitioner called Ranish Partition Manager.
[05:22] <mvbr> Thank-you.
[05:23] <jiyuu0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=167002&postcount=1
[05:24] <mainer> mvbr i like using gparted from within linux,if you partiton with windows or dos,use fdisk,fips,or ranish i guess
[05:25] <zeeble> jiyuu0: there's a second ubuntu unofficial disk?
[05:25] <jiyuu0> zeeble, :)
[05:26] <jiyuu0> 2 version of the CD
[05:26] <jiyuu0> 1 just the normal Add-on
[05:26] <jiyuu0> the other, Add-On + Bootable CD
[05:27] <jiyuu0> Bootable CD = SystemRescueCd.org
[05:27] <mainer> mvbr:   http://www.somuch.com/listem.asp?TopicID=24&TopicName=Open+Source&CategoryID=90&CategoryName=Newbie
[05:27] <mvbr> thanks mainer
[05:28] <mvbr> http://obscurethoughts.net/irc-help-channels/
[05:28] <zeeble> jiyuu0: heh, did'nt know that :) been a while since i installed
[05:28] <mvbr> thats results so far.
[05:28] <mainer> lots of new to linux sites/resources/guides
[05:28] <mvbr> you've silently participated ;)
[05:29] <jiyuu0> zeeble, the add-on cd is still new
[05:29] <Dreamer3> ok
[05:29] <Dreamer3> is there a firefox 1.03 backported?
[05:29] <Dreamer3> to hoary?
[05:30] <Burgundavia> Dreamer3, the security fixes are
[05:30] <Dreamer3> Burgundavia: yeah i know, but i have a serious bug... so i wonder if backports has 1.03 or i need to just install the bunary
[05:30] <Burgundavia> Dreamer3, what bug?
[05:31] <jiyuu0> Dreamer3, yes... there's 1.03 in backports
[05:31] <Dreamer3> Burgundavia: browser tears up terrible when using backpackit.com
[05:31] <Dreamer3> jiyuu0: do you have the rep url handy?
[05:31] <Burgundavia> Dreamer3, don't see it here
[05:32] <darGor> hey.. can anyone help me? i've problems with audio.. i open video files with totem, xine or mplayer, but i cant listen anything. but i can play mp3s, it's all OK, but can listen video files.
[05:32] <Dreamer3> Burgundavia: it's when you're using the app
[05:32] <Burgundavia> Dreamer3, what app?
[05:32] <Burgundavia> oh, the one in the website
[05:32] <Burgundavia> I get it
[05:32] <Burgundavia> file a bug
[05:33] <Dreamer3> Burgundavia: well, i'm going to see if the newer version fixes it
[05:34] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: I found some decompilers
[05:34] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, please remember that decompiling is probably illegal
[05:34] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, it depends on what you are doing
[05:35] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: not it is not DMCA reverse engineering
[05:35] <hybrid_goth> t/o/no
[05:35] <Dreamer3> jiyuu0: downloading
[05:35] <Dreamer3> i'll be happy if that fixes it
[05:35] <Dreamer3> if not, then it's prolly al inux thing :(
[05:36] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: btw noone will complain for me decompiling Bess web filter :D
[05:36] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, why do you need to decompile it?
[05:37] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: to find exploits figure out how it works... My school uses it and my proxy doesnt get around "global blocking"
[05:37] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, ah
[05:38] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: yea but my jr high loves my proxy :P but if i can completely defeat bess <insert evil laugh>
[05:38] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: what decompilers have u found?
[05:39] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, web filters are evil
[05:39] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: dcc a few on sf.net and a sucky rec
[05:39] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: i am d/l dcc loking at the sf ones
[05:40] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: yes very anti hacker. information should be *free*
[05:40] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, what do they block/
[05:40] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: slashdot for one images.google.com
[05:41] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: stupid $#!+
[05:41] <alainm> why does flash in firefox start to race in ubuntu?
[05:41] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: all geocity is blocked
[05:42] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, is that a loss?
[05:42] <IIIEars> lol
[05:42] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, that is a relic of a differnet internet age
[05:43] <IIIEars> an internet "Age" is equal to .5 dog years - lol
[05:43] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I just got an error while installing: AddCRL failed => 0x80090017(-2146893801) [OK] . I hit okay, and it keeps installing, and brings up: Wine has exited with a failure status of 194.
[05:43] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: thats beside the point it is that it is limiting me it is anti freedom information should be free
[05:43] <hegemony> any ideas why I'm getting thrown right to a grub command line when trying to boot off a ubuntu warty livecd?
[05:44] <IIIEars> hybrid - can you run another machine as a proxy outside your wall?
[05:44] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: yes but the global blocking blocks mp3s and such no matter where it is
[05:45] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: it is an external proxy
[05:45] <IIIEars> ssh - should fix that no?
[05:45] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: yes but the school uses windows
[05:45] <IIIEars> ugh
[05:45] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: yes
[05:45] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: i run portable firefox :P
[05:46] <IIIEars> good
[05:46] <IIIEars> a bootable Ubuntu iso can be crafted with everything you might need no/
[05:47] <Choubaka> Yes.
[05:47] <IIIEars> It wouldn't help anyone but you though. - :/
[05:47] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: yea it could but those computers take forever to start and booting a livecd would take longer but yea it would work
[05:48] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: yea I overclocked a few of the computers tho :P and a script kiddie watched me and did it to his computer but did it a gig at a time hahaha
[05:49] <drcode> any one know in evoltion I Can work with gmail ?
[05:49] <drcode> pop ?
[05:49] <Burgundavia> drcode, you can use pop
[05:49] <IIIEars> lol - that computer is now a good place to heat a "lean cuisine" lunch?
[05:49] <Burgundavia> drcode, pretty easy
[05:49] <allyn> yes anything should work on pop
[05:49] <devnull> google has a pop interface too ?
[05:49] <devnull> i mean gmail
[05:49] <allyn> devnull only some people have a pop i believe
[05:49] <drcode> where I need to put port 995?
[05:49] <drcode> I try pop.gmail.com:995
[05:50] <devnull> cool
[05:50] <devnull> i have pop
[05:50] <Burgundavia> drcode, gmail has instructions
[05:50] <drcode> not for evolion
[05:50] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: hahayea he thinks he is da sh!t but it is funny he knows soooooo much but cant use bittorrent and doesnt even know what *nix is
[05:50] <drcode> I check it
[05:51] <pinS> heh
[05:51] <devnull> i bet you could try to follow along to one of the other ones
[05:51] <IIIEars> I am still so new at Ubuntu my jaw dropped playing a DVD on a 1.3g machine that XP slogs on. - linux is great. - many thanks to crimsun and the others.
[05:52] <drcode> it didnt work for me
[05:52] <drcode> any help?
[05:52] <pinS> IIIEars, welcom around!
[05:52] <mpq> I need help with gtkpod
[05:53] <holycow> time to watch the original matrix again
[05:53] <holycow> later :)
[05:54] <IIIEars> I sure wish video card manufacturers were more open with their code. - windows is too weak for the web it's only strong point is games.
[05:55] <hybrid_goth> what command creates a new folder
[05:55] <goldfish> mkdir
[05:55] <hybrid_goth> ok ty
[05:56] <IIIEars> goldfish -  mkdir can i add extra commands for write permissions when it's made?
[05:56] <goldfish> you can chmod it
[05:56] <goldfish> to set permissions
[05:57] <IIIEars> afterwards. - okay
[05:57] <goldfish> yep.
[05:58] <batkins_> can i suspend a logged-in user on ubuntu and switch to a different user?  similar to xp's switch users feature, i guess.
[05:58] <IIIEars> goldfish - can the default Ubuntu build a program from source code?
[05:58] <goldfish> IIIEars: dont think so
[05:59] <goldfish> apt-get install build-essential
[05:59] <crimsun> batkins_: there's no real equivalent to suspending a user. Linux supports true multiuser.
[05:59] <goldfish> will get all you need
[05:59] <mr_roboto> batkins: yes, it's on your k menu in kde or right-click on desktop
[05:59] <bob2> goldfish: well, for basic programs
[05:59] <batkins_> mr_roboto: i'd be using gnome
[05:59] <bob2> anything more complicated than "hello world" will require other -dev packages
[05:59] <IIIEars> Thank You
[05:59] <batkins_> crimsun: can i suspend gnome sessions though?
[05:59] <goldfish> Sorry, I'm a basic user :)
[05:59] <bob2> crimsun: does hoary include the user-switch applet?
[05:59] <crimsun> batkins_: they will all run concurrently
[06:00] <mpq> is there a program that will sync an itunes db to an ipod?
[06:00] <metalsand2> bob2: I unsubscribed from the mailing list
[06:00] <crimsun> bob2: the fast one? not that I'm aware.
[06:00] <Burgundavia> bob2, fast-user-switching?
[06:00] <bob2> metalsand2: awesome
[06:00] <Burgundavia> bob2, I think from breezy
[06:00] <Burgundavia> s/from/for
[06:00] <bob2> oh, dang
[06:00] <metalsand2> bob2: I'm sorry. I couldn't hanlde 80 e-mails a day, but I did wait a couple of days to see if anyone would assist me. No one did.
[06:00] <batkins_> crimsun: that would work.  i don't technically want them to stop working - i just want to be able to have a user's programs run in the background, log in with a different user and then potentially go back
[06:00] <Burgundavia> bob2, there were so crackish things that needed to be fixed, so it missed UVF
[06:01] <bob2> Burgundavia: hm...iirc it wasn't hig-compliant, too.
[06:01] <Burgundavia> bob2, and some deps in gdm
[06:02] <metalsand2> For the packages on the reposotories, how much testing is put on them before they're added?
[06:02] <metalsand2> Like, what if someone just said "I ported this, it works" - do people actually run them and make sure it's not malicious or anything?
[06:02] <Burgundavia> metalsand2, for universe, not much
[06:02] <bob2> define "the repositories".
[06:02] <bob2> if it's universe, whatever the maintainer does
[06:02] <bob2> for main, tons
[06:02] <metalsand2> What are the different levels?
[06:02] <metalsand2> Main
[06:02] <Burgundavia> metalsand2, stuff from debian is assumed to checked
[06:03] <bob2> for the ubuntuguide ones "it builds? SHIP IT AND GET NEWBIES TO INSTALL IT"
[06:03] <metalsand2> Universe, multiuniverse, packports?
[06:03] <Burgundavia> metalsand2, new stuff in Ubuntu is checked
[06:03] <calamari> hi
[06:04] <drcode> now it work
[06:04] <metalsand2> bob2: I still haven't gotten my card working... Although, I did remove my PCI internal wireless card, because people said it could potentiall be conflicting
[06:04] <drcode> I forget to open pop support at gmail
[06:04] <goldfish> calamari: hello
[06:04] <metalsand2> bob2: So now I rmmod'd the old stuff I had, and uninstalled all packages.
[06:04] <metalsand2> Now I'm starting from scratch
[06:04] <metalsand2> and doing it all myself :x
[06:04] <calamari> how's it going goldfish?
[06:05] <goldfish> not bad :)
[06:05] <goldfish> tired
[06:05] <goldfish> it's 5 am, i shud sleep
[06:05] <metalsand2> Three nights ago I stayled up all night, attempting to get my card to work.
[06:05] <drcode> I am wating that evoltion will work with out http to connect to excange server ,
[06:05] <drcode> wow it will be great
[06:06] <Rubin> trying to figure out the best way to clone an ubuntu box
[06:06] <metalsand2> bob2: You don't think I could have screwed anything up, do you?
[06:06] <Rubin> is there a free 'ghost' type app?
[06:06] <ali4728> Help!! How to configure PHP and POSRFIX to use mail() to send mail from my local comp / webserver!
[06:06] <bob2> Rubin: partimage.
[06:07] <chris_ubuntu> will an external serial modem automatically be recognized from ubuntu?
[06:07] <bob2> ali4728: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[06:07] <metalsand2> bob2: I really don't know what to do anymore... I'm thinking I may have screwed up my Ubuntu install. Perhaps I should just reformat and start with a brand new install.
[06:07] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: no
[06:07] <Rubin> bob2: thanks.
[06:07] <chris_ubuntu> bob2, what do I need to do to get reliable dialup access?
[06:07] <samuel> sup all
[06:08] <hybrid_goth> chris_ubuntu: dsl
[06:08] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: use the pppconfig tool to set itup, then "pon" and "poff" to enable and disable the connection
[06:08] <hybrid_goth> thats reliable
[06:08] <metalsand2> bob2 is ignoring me :(
[06:08] <crimsun> metalsand2: he's kinda occupied
[06:08] <bob2> metalsand2: no, I don't think reinstalling will help
[06:08] <Rubin> if you can break it you can fix it
[06:09] <metalsand2> crimsun: He just answered every single person aside from me. I already know he doesn't like me. :[
[06:09] <bob2> jesus, stop it
[06:09] <chris_ubuntu> bob2, I don't understand.  Can I expect to ultimately get some type of icon which people can double click to dial up.  This box has to be useful for guests at my home.
[06:09] <bob2> this is why I don't answer questions in here
[06:09] <samuel> im installing windows 2000 on qemu, but the install has stalled for quite a while now... in the "installing devices" bit of win2k setup
[06:09] <samuel> any ideas?
[06:09] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: yeah, there's a gnome app for that, iirc
[06:09] <crimsun> samuel: you might want to check the qemu site for hints and faq
[06:10] <IIIEars> samuel - needs an "intervention" - Windows on linux why??! - lol
[06:10] <samuel> crimsun, thanks
[06:10] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: OK, how about the modem peice.  If I buy an external with serial connection, could I use the gnome app.  I am not highly linux skilled.
[06:10] <samuel> IIIEars, just two damned programs... i just need two programs!!!
[06:11] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: I can use synaptic, and that is about it
[06:11] <luke> anyone know how to stop ping?
[06:11] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: you plug it in.  you use pppconfig to configure it.  then you use the gnome thing to turn it on and off.
[06:11] <bob2> luke: please don't.
[06:11] <luke> aye?
[06:11] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: How do I know if my internal PCI modem is recognized?
[06:11] <blake> how do i see all the drives that are able to be mounted???
[06:11] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: it won't be
[06:12] <IIIEars> lol - i understand.. (nods and backs away cautiously - gotta be some kind of sado-masochistic dimension there.)
[06:12] <crimsun> luke: ping is a valid diagnostic tool, so be careful which icmp types you reject/drop
[06:12] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: I have 7 of them.  I went by a used shop and got 7 which I was told had a high likelyhood of being non-winmodems.  Comment please.
[06:12] <crimsun> d'oh
[06:12] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: they won't be detected
[06:13] <bob2> it's highly highly unlikely a random pci modem is not a winmodem
[06:13] <bob2> find a ISA one or use a serial one
[06:13] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: ISA meaning the old long slot type on the motherboard?
[06:13] <bob2> yes
[06:14] <Zambba> Is there some day a graphical installer for ubuntu?
[06:14] <bob2> a serial modem will be amazingly less hassle
[06:14] <bob2> Zambba: some day
[06:14] <bob2> it's not a priority because it's pointless, but I think the plan is to have one for breezy
[06:14] <IIIEars> modems are inexpensive likely less than twenty dollars - grab a new one most big manufacturers trumpet linux compatible on the box somewhere if it is.
[06:14] <chris_ubuntu> OK, how about these BestData serials for about $20 on ebay?
[06:14] <metalsand2> bob2: a text installation is very intimidating for people who aren't familar with Linux
[06:15] <Fac51> #ubuntu-ppc is dead, can anyone help?
[06:15] <Zambba> text installation scares people
[06:15] <bob2> Fac51: you haven't asked a question yet
[06:15] <metalsand2> People are used to popping in Windows XP, clicking next and expeting to only use their keyboard when it comes time to make an account.
[06:15] <Zambba> it's not problem for me but I would suggest Ubuntu as distro for many more people if there was a graphical installer
[06:15] <IIIEars> the install app isn't pretty it works but the language used in disk partitioning was very confusing - qtparted was what i used.
[06:16] <bob2> er
[06:16] <Fac51> bob2; i'm having trouble getting the cd to boot on an imac
[06:16] <bob2> if people have trouble with a text installer, they're going to have lots more trouble with ubuntu once it's installed
[06:16] <Fac51> it was a ppc iso
[06:16] <bob2> Fac51: do you know how to boot cds on new world ppcs?
[06:16] <metalsand2> bob2: I definately agree
[06:16] <bob2> ie have you ever done it before?
[06:16] <chris_ubuntu> metalsand2: yes, I can't get involved in heavy command line system configuration.  Can you comment on the "BestData 56k serials" which I see on ebay?
[06:16] <ih8evil> I'm attempting to install sidenet, and it says it's simulating a reboot, and I keep getting new windows titled "Start Menu Shortcuts" that never respond. The install seems to not be progressing any. Anyone have any advise?
[06:16] <crimsun> a graphical installer is being considered, but it's not necessarily the vital element, Zambba. Did you find the installer intimidating? It should have been very straightforward.
[06:16] <Fac51> not a clue
[06:16] <Fac51> a link would be helpful
[06:16] <Choubaka> Linux requires one to abandon the old ways of doing things.
[06:16] <Choubaka> no more. :)
[06:17] <bob2> Fac51: hold down c before the boot boingm and hold it down for a few more seconds
[06:17] <bob2> Fac51: it will take practice
[06:17] <metalsand2> But once people have it installed they're way more willing to give Linux a shot.
[06:17] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: it's very unlikely a serial modem won't work
[06:17] <crimsun> Zambba: an amazingly complex graphical installer is worse for the [new]  user than a simple, streamlined text-based one.
[06:17] <Choubaka> I bet they wouldn't even care.
[06:18] <Zambba> the ubuntu installer is good
[06:18] <metalsand2> If you asked me if I would devout my entire life to getting one thing configured for a week straight before I had the install... I would have told myself NOT a chance.
[06:18] <Choubaka> More than half the computer using world can't even install windows.
[06:18] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: Is there a modem that will?  I don't understand what my next step is...
[06:18] <Fac51> bob2; gonna try now...
[06:18] <metalsand2> Now that the problem is physically there, I can't do anything else. I have to get it to work.
[06:18] <IIIEars> installing grub took an hour of reading howto pages when it didn't detect the Redmond OS sharing disk space.
[06:18] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: you get a serial or ISA modem.  plug it in.  follow the steps I outlined twice already.
[06:18] <spacepopeye> choubaka: so true
[06:18] <bob2> IIIEars: did you file a bug?
[06:19] <ih8evil> I'm attempting to install sidenet, and it says it's simulating a reboot, and I keep getting new windows titled "Start Menu Shortcuts" that never respond. The install seems to not be progressing any. Anyone have any advise?
[06:19] <Zambba> I know one guy who couldn't install Win XP. He couldn't partition his hard disk because he pressed Delete when trying to delete a partition, there was a simple text in screen "Press D to delete partitions"
[06:19] <Choubaka> Windows is used so much because it comes pre-installed on 90% of all PCs
[06:19] <IIIEars> file a bug? er.. no i ususally spray them with "raid" - too new to know how to do that - (sheepish grin)
[06:19] <desrt> dont go there choubaka windows is good
[06:19] <Choubaka> People Don't give a shit
[06:19] <bob2> IIIEars: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[06:20] <bob2> IIIEars: if something doesn't work in ubuntu, please file a bug there
[06:20] <Choubaka> desrt: It's not good for me.
[06:20] <IIIEars> okay - now i know. - wide grin. - Thanks.
[06:20] <bob2> IIIEars: or in malone if whatever the problem is with isn't on bugzilla
[06:20] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: Yes, I see that you have outlined those steps for someone who can do that.  They will not work for me as I don't have the skill set.  Thanks anyway.
[06:21] <metalsand2> ^^^ Well put :x
[06:21] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: if someone says something you dont understand, then you say "I don't understand how to do that, can you elaborate on blah?".
[06:21] <IIIEars> I suppose that means i am in a small way responsible for the quality of the OS i use? - hm.. new concept.
[06:21] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: then they explain it again assuming less knowledge
[06:22] <IIIEars> glad to do it. - Ubuntu is terrific.
[06:22] <Choubaka> :)
[06:22] <bob2> IIIEars: yes, it's an important switch
[06:22] <bob2> IIIEars: as you learn more, you can eventually take control for *fixing* the problems, too
[06:22] <Choubaka> Ubuntu is the best Linux distro there is.
[06:22] <bob2> depends what you want in a linux distribution
[06:23] <Choubaka> And you know, it has so much to improve upon, still. :|
[06:23] <metalsand2> :D
[06:23] <IIIEars> lol - if i have to learn C you are all in really big trouble i can't spell worth a darn.
[06:23] <Choubaka> bob2: It ought to work.
[06:23] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: I misread your above comment -- now I see that you said it is very unlikely a serial _won't_ work
[06:23] <Zambba> Now I'm booting first time to my new Ubuntu system :P
[06:24] <pablo921> Ubuntu is the best, "only", distrodistro that I've tried.
[06:24] <Zambba> it at first started tuo dpkg stuff
[06:24] <Choubaka> Also, It has to have APT.
[06:24] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: right
[06:24] <ih8evil> I'm attempting to install sidenet, and it says it's simulating a reboot, and I keep getting new windows titled "Start Menu Shortcuts" that never respond. The install seems to not be progressing any. Anyone have any advise?
[06:24] <Zambba> Does Ubuntu have more graphical configuration tools than Debian?
[06:24] <bob2> ih8evil: you're being too vague
[06:25] <bob2> ih8evil: do you mean "I'm trying to install sidenet using wine..."?
[06:25] <IIIEars> Welcome Zambia! - New newb buddy. - grin
[06:25] <bob2> Zambba: not really
[06:25] <bob2> graphical configuration tools are a small part of making things simpler, tho
[06:25] <ih8evil> bob2, yes, exactly
[06:25] <metalsand2> bob2: What makes Windows so easy?
[06:25] <Choubaka> Ohh, Zambba is yet another Finn.
[06:25] <Zambba> What differencies does Ubuntu have compared to Debian? :P
[06:25] <Zambba> Choubaka: Yes
[06:25] <Fac51> bob2; the main cdrom is screwed up, so how would i get it to boot from an external cdrom?
[06:25] <metalsand2> I used a command prompt to do ONE Thing while using Windows
[06:25] <bob2> metalsand2: I don't know, I find it horrible to use
[06:26] <metalsand2> Release my IP and get a new one when I'd test to see if my connection was borked
[06:26] <bob2> Fac51: I don't know if that's possible
[06:26] <bob2> Fac51: I'd suspect not
[06:26] <ih8evil> I need it for LaunchCast
[06:26] <austus> I fooking luv ubuntu!
[06:26] <pixel> hey, ubuntu is great, I'm now doing without win since saturday...
[06:26] <pixel> cu
[06:26] <chris_ubuntu> Does anyone have anything bad to say about a Hayes serial modem?
[06:26] <Fac51> bob2 ; do the cdroms on the imacs go out a lot?
[06:26] <Choubaka> Zambba: If you liked Debian, you'll love Ubuntu.
[06:26] <IIIEars> What makes windows easy? - knot heaving to spall anything?
[06:26] <Zambba> nice ^^
[06:26] <Zambba> school -->
[06:26] <bob2> Fac51: not that I've heard of
[06:26] <metalsand2> bob2: You can't argue the numbers. People PAY to use Windows. Linux is free, yet the amount of people running it is staggering compared to Windows.
[06:27] <bob2> metalsand2: I'm not arguiing with anything
[06:27] <bob2> metalsand2: I'm just saying windows is far harder and more annoying for me to use
[06:27] <Choubaka> some peopel don't even know they're paying for windows. :P
[06:27] <Fac51> bob2 ; ok, well , it's not reading my dics, i've tried three burns already.... i hold c down, but nothing ever happens....
[06:27] <austus> today is first time i ever installed linux without having to config X or hardware.
[06:27] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: hayes used to be the standard for modems
[06:27] <Fac51> what could possibly be wrong?
[06:27] <metalsand> bob2: Not for the general user, though - and that is because of GUIs
[06:27] <bob2> Fac51: does the drive work otherwise
[06:27] <bob2> metalsand: I think you're jumping to a conclusion with no evidence
[06:27] <metalsand> bob2: Also, things "jsut work"
[06:27] <Choubaka> austus: :D
[06:28] <Fac51> bob2 ; yes
[06:28] <bob2> metalsand: yes, I think the just work aspect is far more important than silly gui tools
[06:28] <pablo921> metalsand2, linux is free only if you place no value on your time. But it gives you satisfaction to have things done your way.
[06:28] <deFrysk> Fac51, burned image or copied iso ?
[06:28] <bob2> why bother with a gui network config tool when it could Just Work to begin with?
[06:28] <Choubaka> metalsand: hwo can you say "things just work" on windows when you need to install it without a net connection and with a virus scanner/firewall CD at hand?
[06:28] <metalsand> bob2: Look at my situation. I'm really laughing here
[06:28] <bob2> metalsand: yes, you're in a small minority
[06:29] <bob2> metalsand: everything on my laptop worked perfectly out of the box with ubuntu
[06:29] <IIIEars> << Been trying linux since RH 7.2 - It used to take a week before linux did anything useful.
[06:29] <Q_Continuum> How do I backup grub and restore it?  I'm going to be reinstalling windows on same box, and I know it'll overwrite the MBR.
[06:29] <austus> Choubaka, I cried ;) ...ok i was friggin impressed...even with the set of software installed by default.
[06:29] <Fac51> bob2 ; burned image
[06:29] <Choubaka> now, AWAY and fast or I shall be late for work.
[06:29] <bob2> metalsand: I know you're frustrated, but generalising your experience to everyone's is silly
[06:29] <bob2> Q_Continuum: just tell grub to reinstall itself afterwards
[06:29] <metalsand> bob2: I'm not, I'm generalising based on data
[06:29] <bob2> metalsand: no, you're not
[06:29] <Q_Continuum> ummm...from what bob2?
[06:29] <bob2> metalsand: what evidence do you have that gui tools are what makes windows popular?
[06:29] <metalsand> Over the 7 years I used Windows, the MOST I had to do was download a driver and click install
[06:29] <Q_Continuum> if I can't boot to ubuntu how would I do that? ^.^
[06:30] <bob2> Q_Continuum: boot the live cd or install cd
[06:30] <austus> bye bye
[06:30] <bob2> metalsand: again, I had to do nothing to get my wireless to work
[06:30] <Q_Continuum> and from that I can do a grub install?
[06:30] <bob2> metalsand: you're unlucky in this regard
[06:30] <bob2> Q_Continuum: right
[06:30] <metalsand> The first 5 hours in Ubuntu I spent configuring my laptops resolution. Eventually someone told me I needed a package to "trick" my monitor into displaing those settings
[06:30] <bob2> Q_Continuum: sudo grub-install
[06:30] <samuel> just a question... why would you want to use wine with qemu?
[06:30] <Q_Continuum> mmmkay
[06:30] <bob2> metalsand: yes, you have bad hardware
[06:30] <metalsand> My hardware is top of the line: both my monitor and my card
[06:30] <Q_Continuum> rather than hitting ok on whatever the install CD has for it's command-line options?
[06:30] <Choubaka> samuel: for utter slowness? :D
[06:31] <bob2> metalsand: yes, but your video chipset lies about what modes it supports
[06:31] <metalsand> Both worked perfectly in Windows, and both worked perfectly for ever 700m user.
[06:31] <samuel> lol
[06:31] <bob2> metalsand: hence the need to hack around it
[06:31] <JDahl> metalsand, I am going to swallow your flamebait... some people dont give a rat's ass if their webcam works out of the box... I dont even have a sound card on my machines, but I depend on all the GNU tools, which works much much better on Linux than on Windows
[06:31] <bob2> metalsand: it would work under linux, too, if the manufacturer would tell the X people how to get the real resolutions out of it
[06:31] <Choubaka> YES.
[06:31] <Choubaka> JDahl: yes
[06:31] <metalsand> JDahl: I'm not starting a flame war, I'm really supporting my side
[06:31] <Choubaka> asdf. damn
[06:31] <bob2> metalsand: prism2 is not "top of the line", either
[06:32] <bob2> tho I am quite surprised you're having any problems with it
[06:32] <metalsand> bob2: Do you TRUELY believe that a Linux install, any distrobution, is more compatible over ALL hardware than a Windows machine?
[06:32] <bob2> metalsand: did I say that?
[06:32] <froguz> hi
[06:32] <bob2> metalsand: please stop putting words into my mouth
[06:32] <metalsand> bob2: It was implied, at least that's what I read
[06:32] <froguz> is there any ubuntu spanish channel??
[06:32] <bob2> metalsand: I certainly believe that ubuntu out of the box supports on the same order of magnitude hardware as windows
[06:32] <metalsand> Don't get upset, I'm just tyring to give you another opinion.
[06:32] <bob2> froguz: #ubuntu-es
[06:33] <bob2> I'm not upset, I'm annoyed at your attitude
[06:33] <froguz> thanks a lot
[06:33] <bob2> but this is pointless, so tata
[06:33] <Q_Continuum> metalsand: with the exception of 3d binary video drivers, my desktop was fully supported out-of-the-box from the ubuntu CD :-)
[06:33] <metalsand> You've been using Linux for probably more than a decade. Of course you're going to be used to that
[06:33] <IIIEars> Nah - hardware manufacturers have a microsoft carrot up their A** - Ubuntu and other solid distros will make them see money in supporting it.
[06:34] <metalsand> However, sit a person whose never used a PC before in the life with a Windows setup, and then sit them down at a Linux setup
[06:34] <Q_Continuum> and my laptop on the ubuntu-64 had binary video and ndwiswrapper for wireless, otherwise out-of-the-box.
[06:34] <bob2> metalsand: again, you're making things up
[06:34] <Q_Continuum> windows setup = harder (all the drivers)
[06:34] <spacepopeye> metalsand: learning windows was hell
[06:34] <bob2> metalsand: have you actually done a test with this?  or are you assuming again, based on the fact windows is more popular at the present time?
[06:34] <pablo921>  metalsand, most hardware was designed for windows and include oem windows drivers
[06:34] <Q_Continuum> as long as it's supported hardware, it's a piece of cake.
[06:34] <deFrysk> metalsand, what are you trying to tell us/prove ?
[06:34] <metalsand> and I gaurentee it'd be MUCH easier given all the GUI tools, all the access to drivers and overall professional support Windows has.
[06:34] <Q_Continuum> most oem windows drivers are crud.
[06:35] <bob2> metalsand: have you tried making use of ubuntu's professional support?
[06:35] <metalsand> pablo921: That's exactly my point
[06:35] <bob2> metalsand: if not, please refrain from commenting on it
[06:35] <metalsand> bob2: I'm talking about being able to call a manufacture, or Windows FREE (Once you've registered your software) support and say this doesn't work
[06:35] <bob2> metalsand: ok!
[06:35] <Q_Continuum> Metalsand: unless you have a contract with MS, you get NO free support from them.
[06:36] <Q_Continuum> $35 for the call.
[06:36] <metalsand> bob2: I can't call Senao and tell them my card doesn't function in Linux. They'd laugh at me
[06:36] <bob2> metalsand: perhaps you should buy from companies that care then
[06:36] <Q_Continuum> so be picky about your hardware then.
[06:36] <Q_Continuum> I am.
[06:36] <metalsand> bob2: You're being bias again
[06:36] <sig> metalsand: then your using crappy hardware
[06:36] <Dreamer3> hmmmm
[06:36] <bob2> metalsand: but, again, remember you're in a tiny minority
[06:36] <sig> why buy hardware from a manufacturer that only wants to support one OS
[06:36] <Dreamer3> i just have everthing user /usr/local owned by root:root, is that the norm, or going to cause problems?
[06:36] <metalsand> bob2: I'll give you minority
[06:37] <Q_Continuum> metalsand: only in the us are we a minority.
[06:37] <Q_Continuum> look at brazil, europe, asia.
[06:37] <bob2> metalsand: what?
[06:37] <metalsand> But 2 things not functioning out of the box of a Linux install doesn't seem highly unlikely
[06:37] <froguz> why sudo doen't ask me for a password anymre before i'd add to my user (froguz) to /etc/sudoers with visudo?
[06:37] <Q_Continuum> China's got their own distro of Linux supported by the gov't for chrissakes
[06:37] <metalsand> I'm not going to say I'm a "tiny minority"
[06:37] <sig> metalsand: you're being silly now.
[06:37] <bob2> metalsand: you're upset and letting that affect your judgement
[06:37] <bob2> metalsand: again, please, I know more about this than you
[06:37] <metalsand> sig: How sow?
[06:37] <froguz> i've allready a root account, but i'd like to use the sudo option (gksudo)
[06:37] <Q_Continuum> brazil's got microsoft pissed because they offically switched to linux
[06:37] <spacepopeye> Q_C: what distro?
[06:38] <sig> metalsand: instead of arguing here why not google or look on forums to get the hardware working.
[06:38] <metalsand> bob2: You know more about Linux, not Windows. You don't need to be condecending.
[06:38] <spacepopeye> (china)
[06:38] <metalsand> sig: You don't know my situation.
[06:38] <bob2> metalsand: no, I know more about which hardware works
[06:38] <metalsand> bob2: I agree
[06:38] <bob2> metalsand: the vast majority of people do not have problems.  you are in a small minority.
[06:38] <sig> metalsand: well enlighten me then.
[06:39] <metalsand> sig: I've spent probably 24 hours+ in this channel the last week taking full walk through over 3 different software sets, readying every support article I can about Linux/Ubuntu on the drivers, and I'm still where I started.
[06:39] <pablo921> metalsand, the thing I like about linux is that the problems i solved yesterday seem trivial today
[06:39] <metalsand> If you don't believe me, ask bob
[06:39] <sig> metalsand: what hardware?
[06:39] <bob2> yes, metalsand has some ery odd hardware that appears to not work
[06:39] <bob2> no one has actually usefully walked him/her through it, tho
[06:39] <bob2> afaict
[06:39] <metalsand> sig: Senao NL 2511 Plus Ext 2 wireless PCMCIA NIC
[06:39] <metalsand> I've gone through some pretty intelligent people.
[06:40] <Q_Continuum> never heard of the manufacturer even.
[06:40] <metalsand> unfortunately one couldn't finish, and left me with getting the hostap drivers to work... But then when I restarted my card wasn't even detected.
[06:40] <froguz> can anybody help me??
[06:40] <metalsand> So, now since I'm on my own I've just deleted everything, removed my internal card to make sure there is no conflictions are started fresh.
[06:41] <tritium> metalsand, are you referring to me?
[06:41] <deFrysk> metalsand, inernal card is card on motherboard ?
[06:41] <sig> http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/SenaoCard
[06:41] <deFrysk> internal
[06:41] <bob2> metalsand: what email address did you use to write to the list?
[06:41] <metalsand> No. tritium: I'm refering to dmj82
[06:41] <metalsand> metalsand@gmail.com
[06:42] <bob2> wow, legit
[06:42] <tritium> metalsand, sorry if I couldn't walk you all the way through.  Your hardware has been challenging to help you with
[06:42] <sproingie> seattlewireless uses senao cards, so they might have an answer
[06:42] <metalsand> bob2: Keep in mind 2 people that are stuck in my sitation are crimsun and tritium. It's not like the people that have made an atempt to help me haven't done so "usefully"
[06:42] <Q_Continuum> that page looks very promising
[06:42] <sproingie> looks like sig said it first
[06:42] <sig> http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?p=118840#post118840
[06:43] <metalsand> tritium: I definately agree, no worries at all, man. I appriciate what you did help me with.
[06:43] <bob2> metalsand: your post to the list wasn't very useful
[06:43] <tritium> metalsand, I just attached here.  How am I stuck in your situation?
[06:43] <sproingie> huh sonicwall resells 'em
[06:43] <metalsand> bob2: Forgive me
[06:43] <bob2> metalsand: things like "I install it. It didn't work." doesn't give anyone any information to help you with
[06:44] <sig> http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?p=118840#post118840
[06:44] <metalsand> It was my first post and it's my first week in Linux... I'm not sure what people were looking for.
[06:44] <bob2> metalsand: perhaps you meant "I loaded the module manually, and it succeeded, but according to dmesg no card was found.", or perhaps not.
[06:45] <loren> Q: anyone know of any splashes i can use for the time being aside from usplash?
[06:45] <sita> I need help with somthing.  I am trying to copy my favorites from my windows HD to my Linux hard drive.  Thay are both Firefox.  Can anyone tell me how to do this?
[06:45] <metalsand> bob2: I'd really apprciate if you used your knowledge to try to see at least what my isssue is.
[06:45] <sig> metalsand: take the card out, and run this in a terminal: "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[06:45] <sig> then plug the card in and look at the output
[06:45] <njoka> sita, awesome...
[06:45] <njoka> Njoka is here.....
[06:45] <loren> sita: i havn't personally done it but i think it's in a different format, try erm, looking up on google im sure it's common
[06:46] <njoka> ivoks, you here?
[06:46] <loren> first time you run firefox it asks you if you want to import urls
[06:46] <IIIEars> sita - firefox will export you internet favorites to an html file that can be reimported
[06:46] <metalsand> kernel: linkstatus=DISCONNECTED (unhandled)
[06:46] <sita> Ok where can I find it?  And where do I put it
[06:46] <metalsand> kernel: linkstatus=ASSOCFAIL (unhandled)
[06:46] <njoka> sita: let me start with this...
[06:46] <bob2> metalsand: so, your card is detected then
[06:46] <loren>  Q: anyone know of any boot splashes i can use for the time being aside from usplash?
[06:47] <sig> bob2: look at this: http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/Client_5fAdapters_5f802_5f11b
[06:47] <bob2> loren: no need to ask again
[06:47] <metalsand> bob2: I rfmod'd the hostap drivers, and started anew from the wlan-ng drivers
[06:47] <loren> bob2: i wasn't sure if anyone saw it or they passed over it ;)
[06:47] <njoka> sita: ok, so, you want to export, and import favorites...
[06:47] <IIIEars>    just a sec - checking if the linux and MS firefox versions are different
[06:47] <njoka> not copy
[06:47] <metalsand> And, when I installed the prism2_cs module, my card came back
[06:47] <bob2> metalsand: well, the card is detected
[06:47] <deFrysk> sita >bookmarks > manage bookmarks > file > export
[06:47] <froguz> somebody can show me the "Default" line os his /etc/sudoers file please'???
[06:47] <njoka> sita: try exporting them, that is the first step...
[06:47] <metalsand> bob2: Yes. But it isn't working. ;)
[06:47] <sita> I tried that and it did not work
[06:48] <njoka> njoka: let me know...if you manage that...
[06:48] <bob2> froguz: rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:48] <loren> anyone know when USplash Official is planned to be released? (1.0)
[06:48] <Q_Continuum> sita: win2k/xp?
[06:48] <njoka> sita, and let me know what format they are in.
[06:48] <bob2> froguz: it's really so much better to not play with it
[06:48] <bob2> loren: never, probably.  look on the wiki.
[06:48] <sita> unless I tried to move the wrong file.  I tried to move the favorets
[06:48] <loren> bob2: that's too bad, imo REALLY too bad, i really need it unfortunatly ;(
[06:48] <bob2> loren: "need"? why?
[06:48] <bloggernauta> hi everyone
[06:48] <bob2> metalsand: the card thinks it's out of range of the ap
[06:49] <z3k3> site: favorites.html?
[06:49] <bloggernauta> i need help to mount a ntfs file system from windows xp on my ubuntu
[06:49] <Q_Continuum> in win2k/xp, c:/documents and settings/username/application data/mozilla/firefox/profiles/randomname/bookmarks.html is the file you want
[06:49] <loren> bob2: im showing it to a company and trying to convince em to OEM it in a few weeks
[06:49] <metalsand> bob2: How do you know this
[06:49] <IIIEars> both firefox versions are the same "Bookmarks" .. Manage bookmarks >> "File" >> "export bookmarks""
[06:49] <Cybermagellan> Is there a GUI FTP server?
[06:49] <njoka> sita: hm...did you see any of your URLs in there?
[06:49] <z3k3> ahh.
[06:49] <metalsand> Cybermagellan: Synaptic
[06:49] <Q_Continuum> bloggernauta, http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[06:49] <froguz> yeah bob2 buy i've asked for the Default line
[06:49] <metalsand> system --> Adminstration --> Synaptic
[06:49] <bob2> loren: they really care about that?
[06:49] <bob2> Cybermagellan: no, that would be silly
[06:49] <froguz> not for users line
[06:50] <bob2> metalsand: that's what that message means.  it's trying to associate, but failing because the signal is too week.
[06:50] <samuel> can someone tell me plz the name of the command to check disks? ive forgotten it!!!
[06:50] <bob2> froguz: then capitalise htings properly: Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets
[06:50] <loren> bob2: text start up is intimidating to non linux fanatics unfortunatly, so that's my erm problem lol, yeah they'd care because i need to make it as simple and easy to use, kindof like "for dummies"
[06:50] <Cybermagellan> Bob you have any suggestions on simple FTP server setups?
[06:50] <IIIEars> sita? - still there?
[06:50] <samuel> fdisk!!!
[06:50] <froguz> thanks a lot
[06:50] <bob2> Cybermagellan: why do you want a ftp server at all?
[06:50] <IIIEars> fdisk -l
[06:51] <deFrysk> sudo fdisk -l
[06:51] <njoka> bob2: 2 week?
[06:51] <Cybermagellan> bob....so I can develop webpages at work and serve them from my home
[06:51] <IIIEars> lol - you're right
[06:51] <deFrysk> ;p
[06:51] <IIIEars> lol
[06:51] <z3k3> Cybermagellan: proftpd
[06:51] <bob2> Cybermagellan: why not use rsync or sftp or webdav?
[06:51] <bob2> nevyn: I don't know what your question is
[06:51] <Cybermagellan> bob2: I'm new to Ubunut
[06:51] <z3k3> Cybermagellan: thats what I use anyhow.  then man proftpd.
[06:52] <mzalim> hello
[06:52] <IIIEars> Hi
[06:52] <metalsand> bob2: I'm literally directly on top of my router (acting AP), and I've connected to my network using this exact setup (Senao NL 2551 Plus Ext + 10 dBi omni direction antenna) houndreds of feet away in Windows
[06:52] <bob2> Cybermagellan: ftp is a pretty terrible method to transfer files with
[06:52] <bob2> metalsand: ok!
[06:52] <mzalim> i'm new to ubuntu and new to chat
[06:52] <IIIEars> Dive right in wuth any questions you might have we don't bite.
[06:52] <mzalim> can somebody guide me
[06:52] <deFrysk> mzalim, what else is new ;)
[06:52] <metalsand> bob2: So why does the card think it's out of range?
[06:53] <bob2> metalsand: no idea
[06:53] <pablo921>  bob2,what's a better way to transfer files?
[06:53] <sita> Ok first I don't know witch one to move./  I have the favorites that are in the Doc and settings folder under my windows user name and then there is  bookmarks.html
[06:53] <mzalim> new to your world maybe, deFrysk
[06:53] <metalsand> bob2: So what do you recommend I do now?
[06:53] <deFrysk> hehe mzalim
[06:53] <IIIEars> bookmarks.html?
[06:53] <metalsand> Go to a different distro?
[06:53] <bob2> pablo921: rsync, sftp, webdav
[06:53] <bob2> metalsand: try a different card
[06:53] <IIIEars> bookmarks.html sounds pretty good.
[06:53] <z3k3> scp
[06:54] <metalsand> metalsand: What purpose would that serve? I know both the card and the PCMCIA work.
[06:54] <darGor> i change eSound, for alsa Sound. in  gstreamer-properties , where i can change the esd for alsa??
[06:54] <njoka> Q_Continuum: and IIIEars: have you found where to import it, or if in linux it has an import, inside bookmarks, manage bookmarks?
[06:54] <bob2> metalsand: because something about the card is probably fucked, it just isn't manifested under windows
[06:54] <deFrysk> first thing I usually do with hardware = checking it for linux compatibility
[06:54] <sig> metalsand: dude, that card is obviously not worth it
[06:55] <metalsand> ...
[06:55] <mzalim> i'm using ubuntu but my old computer which only have 16 MB mem is struggling with DSL
[06:55] <metalsand> The reason I got this card was the fact that it's so supported in Linux
[06:55] <njoka> bob2: such harsh words...
[06:55] <bob2> metalsand: try another and prove me wrong
[06:55] <pablo921> bob2, I copied those to see if my webhost supports those. thanks.
[06:55] <bob2> pablo921: if you have ssh access, you can almost certainly use rsync or sftp.
[06:55] <dabaSlon_other> mzalim: hello...
[06:55] <sig> I bet I could get the card working
[06:55] <mzalim> apt-get the samba give error with logrotate unconfigured
[06:55] <mzalim> anyone can help
[06:56] <bob2> pablo921: more and more do webdav now, too, since windows does "web folders" over webdav
[06:56] <dabaSlon_other> mzalim: hey, a, like running gnome?
[06:56] <metalsand> sig: So help me out
[06:56] <bob2> metalsand: or maybe the linux drivers (all 3 of them) are screwed
[06:56] <Q_Continuum> njoka: it should, AFAIK...like it does on windows.
[06:56] <bob2> it's unlikely but possible
[06:56] <metalsand> sig: No one else can get it working
[06:56] <dabaSlon_other> sita: are you running ubuntu now?
[06:56] <pablo921>  bob2:never rellychecked...been using ftp,but w9ith some problems
[06:57] <bob2> pablo921: the main issues with ftp are that it doesn't play nice with NAT, and it sends your username and password out in cleartext
[06:57] <mzalim> dabaSlon_other, no just  --- file and printer sharing
[06:57] <dabaSlon_other> mzalim: oh, ok...
[06:57] <pablo921>  bob2:i didn't know that
[06:58] <mzalim> dabaSlon_other, any idea
[06:58] <metalsand> This is really depressing.
[06:59] <bob2> indeed
[06:59] <metalsand> Is this really not possible to get working given the current software...
[06:59] <bob2> dude
[06:59] <bob2> no one knows
[06:59] <IIIEars> mzalim - i haven't tried Ubuntu anything with less than 128 megs of ram. - (only 2 weeks using linux) - It might be more responsive with a different window manager "Flux Box" in place of gnome.
[06:59] <bob2> you have a very odd view on how all this works
[06:59] <metalsand> Someone HAS to have used this card in Ubuntu
[06:59] <bob2> no, not neccessarily
[06:59] <dabaSlon_other> mzalim: nope, Im a new Linux user.
[06:59] <metalsand> bob2: I've been here a week, that's a given.
[06:59] <bob2> maybe it just doesn't work at all
[07:00] <tritium> metalsand, we've all spent quite a bit of time trying to help you out
[07:00] <bob2> metalsand: as I've said numerous times, IRC is a terrible medium for everything
[07:00] <metalsand> tritium: I'm not denying that
[07:00] <dabaSlon_other> bob2: so, you think if you were there you could do it?
[07:00] <dabaSlon_other> or something?
[07:00] <bob2> possibly
[07:00] <metalsand> tritium: What do you think? What do you think I should do? I'm to the point where I'm doing the exact same software installations again, just for the hell of it.
[07:00] <mzalim> anybody, have an idea where to find all these, I've tried (and tired) looking at forum
[07:00] <Xae> Hi all... quick question =x
[07:00] <Xae> lilo is failing on Install?
[07:01] <dabaSlon_other> so, are you saying it is a GUI thing, then????
[07:01] <Xae> and anyone know how to fix it =x
[07:01] <bob2> Xae: don't install lilo then
[07:01] <dabaSlon_other> Xae: on what?
[07:01] <bob2> Xae: why don't you want to use grub?
[07:01] <dabaSlon_other> let me guess...
[07:01] <Xae> bob2: im installing from the CD...
[07:01] <Xae> is grub an option?
[07:01] <bob2> Xae: grub is the default
[07:01] <tritium> metalsand, depends on if you can return the card from where you bought it...
[07:01] <Q_Continuum> grub is default...
[07:01] <crimsun> metalsand: what make & manufacturer laptop?
[07:01] <deFrysk> grub = default
[07:01] <bob2> how old is this CD?
[07:01] <dabaSlon_other> bob2: heh...
[07:01] <metalsand> tritium: I'm not returning this card
[07:01] <Xae> strange, because its tryingt o install lilo...
[07:01] <Q_Continuum> hoary 5.04 is current.
[07:01] <Xae> I just downloaded it, 5.04
[07:01] <metalsand> I know there's support for it out the ass.
[07:01] <dabaSlon_other> did you catch my question up there?
[07:02] <tritium> metalsand, what convinced you that it's so supported in linux?
[07:02] <bob2> dabaSlon_other: I don't understand it
[07:02] <Xae> ... I decided to "Continue without bootloader"
[07:02] <chris_ubuntu> Is there a gui tool for installing and formating a slave hd in ubuntu os?
[07:02] <dabaSlon_other> thats cool...
[07:02] <deFrysk> Xae, sure its not Mandriva ? ;p
[07:02] <Xae> deFrysk: yes...
[07:02] <dabaSlon_other> Xae: I asked you a question, but dont mind me...
[07:02] <dabaSlon_other> :)
[07:02] <dabaSlon_other> Im in a bad mood, as you can telll....
[07:03] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: no
[07:03] <metalsand> tritium: The reason I got this card wasn't so I could connect to my home network with - it's engineering is superior to almost all wireless PCMCIA cards, the prism 2 chipset is the most supported over all of Linux and it's output power is 200mW, the average card is around 40.
[07:03] <IIIEars> mzalim - please, take this as helpful and not an offense. you can find a new computer with 128 meg of ram and newer hardware on newegg.com for under 200 hundred dollars. - it'll be much easier.
[07:03] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: Will I have to go through a command line configuration for this?
[07:03] <Xae> dabaSlon_other: on a Logical Volume Group (2 x 160gb hdd...)
[07:03] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: yup
[07:03] <metalsand> Meaning, in some cases it's 3 times as senstive. The card comes default with 2 external antenna connectors, to which I have a 10 dBi omni directional high-gain antenna currently hooked up
[07:03] <tritium> metalsand, the mini PCI?
[07:03] <dabaSlon_other> Xae: wow, ok...
[07:03] <metalsand> No
[07:03] <loren> how much work does it take to complete a bootloader?
[07:03] <metalsand> the PCMCIA card
[07:04] <Q_Continuum> bob2: isn't there gpart that chris_ubuntu could use?
[07:04] <bob2> Q_Continuum: no idea
[07:04] <bob2> loren: to write one?
[07:04] <IIIEars> I would run puppy linux on your machine ubuntu might be too much to ask of it.
[07:04] <Q_Continuum> I seem to remember installing that, which is a gui clone of partition magic for Linux.
[07:04] <Xae> I've still got the fedora bootloader installed to the best of my knowledge :S
[07:04] <loren> bob2: to either write one or convert one to native
[07:04] <chris_ubuntu> Q_Continuum: please say more
[07:04] <mzalim> IIIears, thanks, but there are about 30 units of it.
[07:04] <metalsand> WiFi is a hobby I picked up, I researched my hardware thourougly.
[07:04] <Xae> okay... Grub appears =p haha now what =x
[07:04] <bob2> loren: I don't know what "convert one to native" means
[07:05] <bob2> loren: but writing one is pretty complicated, since you have to know exactly how the boot sequence on that hardware works
[07:05] <tritium> metalsand, how is diversity gain processed on that?  in hardware, or in driver?
[07:05] <bob2> certainly beyond my abilities
[07:05] <Q_Continuum> in the Synaptic Package Manager there should be a gpart as an option...if not, you need to add more sources to your apt-get/synaptics list
[07:05] <metalsand> tritium: hardware
[07:05] <Xae> bob2: I am at the grub command line now... :S
[07:05] <loren> bob2: ahh, that's true, what about porting one to be working perfectly under ubuntu and then releasing a .deb or something to the universe im curious as to what you would guess as far as effort and time
[07:05] <metalsand> Output power, overall antenna gain... Reciever power, overall reciever gain, factored in with whatever you have degrading the RF signal (Walls, trees, air)
[07:05] <crimsun> metalsand: make & manufacturer of laptop?
[07:06] <metalsand> Dell 700m
[07:06] <mzalim> previously run on W98SE but BSA is coming and some do not have the licenses.
[07:06] <bob2> loren: what do you mean by "porting one to be working perfectly under ubuntu"?
[07:06] <bob2> loren: grub works perfectly under ubuntu
[07:06] <Q_Continuum> ouch
[07:06] <loren> bob2: well if you install say rhbg won't it not work exactly like it should since it's designed for Redhat
[07:06] <tritium> metalsand, but when you have diversity antennas, this requires additional signal processing.  Are you sure it's done in hardware?
[07:06] <metalsand> Brand new.. Got it 60% off, saved over $800 with a yearly coupon code by Dell
[07:06] <Xae> bob2: I'm at the grub command line (I dont know how to load the OS now...)
[07:07] <Xae> or even better, install lilo or some sort of other bootloader =x
[07:07] <bob2> loren: I don't know what "rhbg" is
[07:07] <dabaSlon_other> haha, metalsand, I love that saveing attitude with dell......
[07:07] <bob2> Xae: ...
[07:07] <crimsun> metalsand: the 700m has an intel 2915 wireless, no?
[07:07] <bob2> Xae: install ubuntu and let it install grub
[07:07] <loren> bob2: Redhat Bootloader, it's their GUI Bootloader
[07:07] <chris_ubuntu> thanks Q_Continuum
[07:07] <Xae> bob2: I did
[07:07] <chris_ubuntu> I am downloading now
[07:07] <Xae> it failed on the "bootloader" section of things
[07:07] <Q_Continuum> chris_ubuntu, glad to help :-)
[07:07] <mzalim> thanks everybody............. i'm leaving, maybe i'm in a wrong channel.
[07:07] <metalsand> crimsun: The one I got did. I, however, upgraded... I think it comes defualt with the 2200 A/B
[07:07] <bob2> Xae: then something went terrible wrong, it should give you a list of things to boot
[07:07] <dabaSlon_other> what kinda pc iis it, xae?
[07:07] <bob2> loren: no, it's not their bootloader
[07:08] <Xae> bob2: that is called Lilo (and it failed)
[07:08] <metalsand> crimsun: The 2915 worked out of the install
[07:08] <tritium> metalsand, and my question?
[07:08] <Q_Continuum> mzalim, good luck.
[07:08] <bob2> loren: it's their graphical init thing
[07:08] <IIIEars> linux will be refreshing after running win98 - 98 has too many exploits out for it. - too difficult to keep it running. the linux kernel keeps it's device drivers running in a seperate memory space so it will also be more stable.
[07:08] <bob2> loren: right?
[07:08] <loren> bob2: no idea lol
[07:08] <bob2> loren: what does it do?
[07:08] <loren> bob2: im just trying to get a GUI boot thing working lol
[07:08] <metalsand> tritium: Sorry, I was half way into typing it - To tell you the truth, I'm not sure.
[07:08] <loren> bob2: It Graphically Boots linux it's ontop of grub and erm i htink it's on top of grub and just is graphical
[07:08] <loren> bob2: that's all
[07:09] <loren> bob2: progress bar
[07:09] <dabaSlon_other> it is an rpm, right, loren?
[07:09] <bob2> loren: grub should run in < one second
[07:09] <bob2> I really think it's just a wrapper on init
[07:09] <metalsand> People have gotten the prism2 chipset to work in Ubuntu. Drivers for the Prism2/2.5/3 aren't supported on the install, but people have gotten them to work.
[07:09] <loren> bob2: really? hmmh that's good news
[07:09] <chris_ubuntu> For those linux advocates on this channel, there seems to be an idea that to use this OS one should be willing to learn how to work from a command line and be a power user....
[07:09] <metalsand> I don't understand why this Senao card would make any differnce
[07:09] <loren> dabaSlon_other: i found the RPM, but kubuntu doesn't support RPMS
[07:09] <crimsun> metalsand: have you gotten the pcmcia kernel modules loaded?
[07:09] <metalsand> crimsun: yes, with no errors
[07:09] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: this isn't an advocacy channel
[07:10] <dabaSlon_other> metalsand: and you did not find anywhere that it does not work, just that it does, hey?
[07:10] <chris_ubuntu> This box I am configing is for a vacation home where family stays....
[07:10] <metalsand> crimsun: currently I went thorugh this guide: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary
[07:10] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: if you're not ready to learn to use the command line sometimes, then yes, you will have tourble with ubuntu at the moment
[07:10] <Q_Continuum> chris_ubuntu, that's because that's what most of us know...the truely working GUI stuff for most command-line options are only now coming out.
[07:10] <metalsand> crimsun: modprobe prism2_cs shows no errors
[07:10] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: funny...
[07:10] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: but using it should not require the command line, just configuration
[07:10] <metalsand> lsmod grep prism2 shows about 5 differnt things.
[07:11] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: what do you need to be a super user for?
[07:11] <chris_ubuntu> so I don't think it is reasonable for my 67 year old mother to use some non gui dial up method
[07:11] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - i understand comepletly - only used linux for a couple of weeks myself. - there really aren't many commands to learn before you can do useful things. HANG IN THERE buddy! :)
[07:11] <metalsand> So it's being used, it just isn't working.
[07:11] <Q_Continuum> chris_ubuntu, there is work to make more and more GUI, but the first goal of most Linux programmers is to get the system working, not to make it pretty.  GUI is secondary to stability and capability, if you get what I mean.
[07:11] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: sure, but as I said, she doesn't need to
[07:11] <chris_ubuntu> I would really like to config this so it works and I dont have to buy another MS op sys
[07:11] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: it is a different OS, that is for sure...a Unix, I knew some Unix b4, and it is completely natural, but I grew up on Dos, and Windows, later...
[07:11] <metalsand> I really like Ubuntu - and I want to get this working, but I'm finally running out of motivation
[07:12] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: she can use the gnome panel applet to turn it off and on
[07:12] <crimsun> metalsand: do you have any physical identification on the card itself?
[07:12] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: let me tell you, Unix is easier to use, but....the issue is that you are probably not even familiar with the concept of even something as aliasing..., so it is harder for you to use it, yes...
[07:12] <metalsand> What kind of identification are you looking for?
[07:13] <crimsun> metalsand: name, id, serial, etc.
[07:13] <Xae> installation of lilo fails (error code 1)
[07:13] <Q_Continuum> (non-ubuntu question) what's the way to talk to authserv again for help? lol
[07:13] <dabaSlon_other> xae, ok, a long shot, is it a PPC?
[07:13] <metalsand> Senao 2511CD Plus Ext2
[07:13] <Xae> dabaSlon_other: its an Intel Celeron 1ghz machine, with 512 mb ram, and 2 x 160GB WD HDD
[07:13] <metalsand> S/N: 04A236634
[07:14] <bob2> Q_Continuum: /msg nickserv help
[07:14] <metalsand> FCC ID: N13-2511CD-Plus3
[07:14] <Q_Continuum> grr...I was thining authserv...stupid gamesurge lol
[07:14] <dabaSlon_other> and you have a kubuntu install, from a hoary cd that you just downloaded?
[07:14] <chris_ubuntu> Paid support has it's pluses.  I would gladly pay to get these issues resolved on a box which will be stable and easy for non-computer proficient members of my family to use
[07:14] <fsapo> hi, i ve just converted some files to DVD and now i have AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS, just burning these 2 folders in the dvd as data is enough for it to play on dvd players?
[07:14] <Q_Continuum> lol I saw FCC and somehow thought NCC, ala Star Trek ship #'s lol
[07:14] <bob2> heh, I thought you were refering to LP
[07:14] <bob2> fsapo: I'm pretty sure that won't work
[07:15] <bob2> aiui dvd burners can't make things dvd players can play
[07:15] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: sure, you can buy paid support from Canonical
[07:15] <fsapo> bob2, why not? :(
[07:15] <dabaSlon_other> fsapo: did you mean isnt enough?
[07:15] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: email info@canonical.com for a quote
[07:15] <bob2> fsapo: because the people who designed the DVD format don't like you
[07:15] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: I emailed canonical for a quote over 24 hours ago.  No response.
[07:15] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: did you read my posts?
[07:16] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon_other: No, just above?
[07:16] <metalsand> crimsun: What do you need this for?
[07:16] <fsapo> bob2, :( i spent 12 hours encoding it, and i read that it works but i m not sure if it will play on dvd players :(
[07:16] <Xae> You will need to boot manually with the /vmlinuz kernel on partiition /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 and root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 passed as kernel argument
[07:16] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: there are two main ones...
[07:16] <metalsand> Does gentoo use Gnome?
[07:16] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon_other: above?
[07:16] <IIIEars> aw - geez - chris_ubuntu - you were here so you could be told there was a way to pay for info? - i think not - stick around or check in a bit later someone has a free answer for you.
[07:16] <bob2> metalsand: gentoo uses whatever you want, just like ubuntu
[07:17] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: no, below, dude./..
[07:17] <fsapo> even me menu looks pretty :( http://img206.echo.cx/my.php?image=chrno7oz.jpg
[07:17] <fsapo> my*
[07:17] <dabaSlon_other> yes, very pretty...
[07:18] <Xae> blah =\ im gonna put fedora back on if its gonna be this hard to get it to boot lol
[07:18] <crimsun> metalsand: which wlan-ng version are you using?
[07:18] <dabaSlon_other> one of the prettier menus I ve seen in a while.
[07:18] <fsapo> dabaSlon, haha
[07:18] <fsapo> dabaSlon, i ll try burning it, hope it works :(
[07:18] <tritium> metalsand, just a thought, have you tried disabling the diversity antennas?  There's no need for it if youve got clear line-of-sight (little multipath fading to deal with)
[07:18] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: I have more money than time on these issues.  I hope you guys can work to make this a realistic system for users like myself.  This type of chat wont work for users like me
[07:18] <metalsand> crimsun: linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre26
[07:18] <dabaSlon_other> OMG, I hope so too, lest it ruin one dvd-/+r.....
[07:19] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: I certainly believe in the linux / freeware concept, but this is too frusterating a process
[07:19] <metalsand> tritium: I haven't thouht of that. I believe as long as you have the card hooked up to the primary recieve/send jack there would be no problems
[07:19] <IIIEars> xae - lol - Ubuntu should work smoothly as dual boot and it can if you know how to edit the bootmenu.lst - though it has only worked first time for me when it didn't share the drive with another OS.
[07:19] <metalsand> Is that a none issue in Linux?
[07:19] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: did you email support@canonical or info@?
[07:19] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: you need to read a little, or use windows, they are free, you know...?
[07:19] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: I may have given you the wrong address, sorry.
[07:20] <chris_ubuntu> bob2: Yes, and haven't hear anything back from canonical
[07:20] <chris_ubuntu> for about 24 hours
[07:20] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: ok
[07:20] <tritium> metalsand, I'm just trying to think of things that could be complicating our diagnosis of the problem.  It's worth a try.
[07:20] <dabaSlon_other> Man...you americans really have issues, but whatever, as you please...
[07:20] <tritium> dabaSlon_other, ?
[07:21] <dabaSlon_other> whatever...
[07:21] <crimsun> metalsand: have you configured /etc/wlan/* ?
[07:21] <metalsand> tritium: I've used it in Windows with my current setup and did not need to use the 2nd antenna jack... Would that for some reason be an issue
[07:21] <metalsand> crimsun: Yes.
[07:21] <dabaSlon_other> tritium: either scroll up, or dont, I mean...I am not gonna repeat everything I said...
[07:21] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon_other: That is the exact assumption that makes this frusterating.  I have very little time to commit to this type of endeavor.  This is why I pay.
[07:21] <tritium> metalsand, like I said, I don't know.  It's worth a try, though
[07:21] <metalsand> crimsun: I'm not 100% they're current, but I followed the instrutions perfectly
[07:21] <dabaSlon_other> Right, so, Use windows, why are you even trying to use somehting else?
[07:21] <tritium> dabaSlon_other, but the generalized comment...
[07:21] <IIIEars> chris_ubuntu - this isn't as easy to install as windows. it seems more like luck with some devices. - you might try logging IRC chat all night and then doing a text search to see if someone else asked and got an answer to your question.
[07:22] <chris_ubuntu> But windows is a very frusterating option also, as it crashes, is suseptable to spyware, etc
[07:22] <crimsun> metalsand: this README notes that you can't use iwconfig with prism2_cs
[07:22] <dabaSlon_other> tritium: not generalized, very specific.
[07:22] <metalsand> crimsun: Correct
[07:22] <tritium> dabaSlon_other, "you americans", as you put it...
[07:22] <crimsun> metalsand: so you've configured /etc/pcmcia/network.opts, etc.?
[07:22] <metalsand> crimsun: Nope :D
[07:22] <dabaSlon_other> I live even in Canada, and never could think of a statement like: (00:11:32) chris_ubuntu: I would really like to config this so it works and I dont have to buy another MS op sys
[07:22] <IIIEars> The Redmond OS - Install, Connect, Reinstall - repeat.
[07:23] <bob2> dabaSlon_other: please?
[07:23] <dabaSlon_other> so, saying that yoiu have some issues in the states...like the copyright issues....is not a generalized statement.
[07:23] <crimsun> metalsand: you may not have to, but ensure that you've configured pcmcia-cs's network config
[07:23] <dabaSlon_other> why would you obuy somehting like that?
[07:23] <metalsand> crimsun: that's a pretty big config, what exactly do I need to ensure is correctly configured?
[07:23] <bob2> dabaSlon_other: this is not a warez channel
[07:23] <dabaSlon_other> but, whatever, that is all I have to say about that...since you dont wanna think about reality...
[07:24] <bob2> please stop your lame trolling attempt
[07:24] <bob2> kthxbye
[07:24] <dabaSlon_other> bob2: if i knew what warez means,....
[07:24] <JDahl> IIIEars, I think we've all had troubles getting hardware working in Linux - that's something you just have to suck up if you want to use it
[07:24] <bob2> awesome
[07:25] <tritium> dabaSlon_other, please don't accuse me of anything.  I'm not in the modd.
[07:25] <tritium> mood
[07:25] <dabaSlon_other> I dont even, I am tellingthe guy the truth...maybe not so polilte, but it is...anyhow. If you want me to shut uip, you can say so...
[07:25] <IIIEars> JDahl - I agree the time invested pays off big dividends. - wide grin
[07:25] <Xae> Anyone here know about the LVM & the ubuntu installer??
[07:25] <dabaSlon_other> acuse?
[07:25] <bob2> dabaSlon_other: thanks
[07:25] <crimsun> metalsand: are you using stock pcmcia-modules?
[07:25] <chris_ubuntu> I can see why this OS doesn't get a wide user base.  It is a wonderful Idea, but someone needs to marry it up with a service model that works for the general market.  Reading the man pages is a poor recomendation for many
[07:25] <crimsun> metalsand: and wireless-tools?
[07:25] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: dude
[07:25] <bob2> chris_ubuntu: it's been less than 24 hours, and you've tried once, please don't make generalisations
[07:25] <metalsand> crimsun: For the prism2_cs drivers? Or the PCMCIA modules that came off the CD?
[07:25] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: I had my Linux installed by a buddy from school...
[07:25] <metalsand> crimsun: Yes, I have wireless tools installed
[07:25] <dabaSlon_other> You have some weird hardware or something?
[07:26] <jsgotangco> chris_ubuntu, im one of the people fixing the current packaged documentation, its not an easy task but doable if we had more people contributing help
[07:26] <crimsun> metalsand: I take it then that you're not using stock pcmcia-modules
[07:26] <metalsand> crimsun: You're talking about the modules that are behind the functioning of the PCMCIA slot, right? Not the modules for the drivers for my card...
[07:26] <dabaSlon_other> chris_ubuntu: I solve like 25 ppls probllems every day, but installing a system onto a hardware that does not support it...that is not that easy...
[07:26] <metalsand> If so, yes I'm using the stock PCMCIA modules
[07:27] <crimsun> metalsand: correct
[07:27] <chris_ubuntu> jsgotangco: Well, you need a revenue stream to pay those people to work.   I am not a MS fan, but that is something they have figured out
[07:27] <bob2> dabaSlon_other: that's not chris_ubuntu's probelm.
[07:27] <dabaSlon_other> anyhow, thats what I had to say, sorry about that.
[07:27] <Ajaxx> anyone here know how to configure xorg w/ twinview for 3 LCDs?
[07:27] <Xae> gonna assume no one here knows how to use the Logical Volume Manager in the ubuntu installer :(
[07:27] <crimsun> Ajaxx: check the README in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/, and also see sh.nu/nvidia's example XF86Config
[07:28] <IIIEars> jsgotangco - If all you have heard so far is negatives. let me clear something up - Ubuntu is great in large part because of the documentation. - i am very grateful to you.
[07:28] <bob2> Xae: try asking on the ubuntu-user list
[07:28] <dabaSlon_other> bob2: read what he said...
[07:28] <bob2> tho, that has the same problem as here, which is few knowledgable users willing to help
[07:28] <Ajaxx> crimsun: but does it explain how to use 3 monitors?
[07:28] <jsgotangco> IIIEars, thanks, but there's so much things to be fixed yet though, but i'm glad work pays off :)
[07:28] <Xae> bob2: is not asking the channel the question, asking the user-list?
[07:28] <chris_ubuntu> I haven't meant to insult or flame, and I will continue to try this, but it has is has been a real challenge so far.  I really hope this type of community continues to make strides, because it seems to have promise
[07:28] <dabaSlon_other> ok, sorry, I must turn thuiis computer off...
[07:28] <dabaSlon_other> hah
[07:29] <crimsun> Ajaxx: check them out
[07:29] <crimsun> Ajaxx: if you have further questions _after_ reading the docs, ask Primer in #nvidia
[07:29] <bob2> Xae: no, not at all
[07:29] <Ajaxx> crimsun: alright... i will; i just wanted to see if anyone here had done so already
[07:29] <jsgotangco> chris_ubuntu, constructive criticisms are always welcome :)
[07:29] <dabaSlon_other> Im in a bad mood, thats for sure...
[07:29] <Ajaxx> crimsun: not wondering how... just want to know *if* and *how difficult if yes*
[07:29] <pablo921> bob2, but i am learning much from those that do know!
[07:30] <jsgotangco> in the end, we're all learning, aye
[07:30] <metalsand> crimsun: Is that all you wanted of me?
[07:30] <dabaSlon_other> Im sorry guys, buut one of the biggest challenges in my life happened today, and I guess I got caught in it, I apol9ogize to anyone I offended, or upset...and tritium, I did not mean to acuse you, and if I did, sorry about that...RESPECT...
[07:30] <crimsun> Ajaxx: yes, it's definitely doable; I ran one such config earlier last year
[07:30] <IIIEars> << ( throws a whoopee cushion at dabasalon then ducks behind a chair.)
[07:30] <Xae> screw it :) im installing fedora =\
[07:30] <Xae> nite all
[07:30] <Ajaxx> crimsun: ok thanks! that's exactly what i was looking for :)
[07:30] <tritium> dabaSlon, sorry to hear that.  I hope you're doing okay.
[07:30] <crimsun> metalsand: for now, yes. Sorry, I'm busy looking for hints to help you.
[07:30] <ik> hi
[07:31] <Q_Continuum> hello.
[07:31] <z3k3> Xae: google.
[07:31] <z3k3> Xae:   :)
[07:31] <ik> i have problems whith sound, before it was ok, but now i cant listen anything :(
[07:32] <IIIEars> xae - Ubuntuwiki _ :)
[07:32] <crimsun> ik: cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:32] <pablo921> jsgotangco, my congratulations to all that have contributed. Ubuntu is my 1st linux distro and i'm quite content.
[07:32] <ik> ok
[07:32] <crimsun> ik: then, paste the output of amixer onto http://pastebin.com
[07:33] <ik> ok
[07:33] <Xae> I checked the wiki
[07:33] <Xae> and I googled it
[07:33] <Xae> both useless for what im trying to do =\
[07:33] <z3k3> Xae: What are you trying to do?
[07:33] <Xae> (ie, a make a ... virtual raid between two HDDs... via the Logical Volume Manager)
[07:34] <Xae> Namely turn 2 x 160gb hdd, into a virtual 320gb hdd
[07:34] <bob2> it's not "virtual raid"
[07:34] <z3k3> oh.. raid 0
[07:34] <bob2> please don't confuse the issue further
[07:34] <z3k3> ?
[07:34] <tritium> Xae, a post to the the mailing list might get you better response.  There might not be many here who have attempted what you're trying to do.
[07:34] <Xae> uhmm if thats what its called z3k3
[07:34] <ik> i send it to pastebin.com?
[07:34] <IIIEars> Ubuntu is the best - i have tried everything from floppix and tmsrtbt to the trial offer from Sun - this is wonderful
[07:36] <ik> crimsun i send it to pastebin.com?
[07:37] <crimsun> ik: have you?
[07:38] <ik> as php or any?
[07:38] <dabaSlon> tritium: heh, thanks, nothing a little bit of green wont fix for now, and the worst is I have to sit back, relax, and wait...and it is likely not to be a short wait...either...
[07:39] <Seveas> *ding* *dong*
[07:39] <tritium> dabaSlon, sorry :(
[07:39] <Seveas> Good $DAYTIME everyone!
[07:39] <dabaSlon> yeah. its a pretty tough situation, but, no excuse to lash out...
[07:40] <IIIEars> hello Seveas - $DAYTIME = "Hello World"
[07:40] <crimsun> ik: any
[07:40] <ik> ok
[07:40] <dabaSlon> So, tough it out, as my dad used to say(not)...and thats the last of pity towards myself for the night...:)
[07:41] <pablo921> Seveas,daytime? where are you? It's almost 11 pm herew in arizona, usa.
[07:41] <Xae> its ~3am here
[07:42] <_nate> how do you get rid of the root password once you set it?  I want to go back to how it was
[07:42] <Seveas> it's 7 45 am here
[07:42] <Seveas> and here == the netherlands
[07:42] <dabaSlon> _nate: how did you set it?
[07:42] <IIIEars> << 'net addict it isn't dark out until i turn off the monitor - lol
[07:42] <pablo921>  Xae,and you're still awake?
[07:42] <_nate> dabaSlon: sudo passwd
[07:42] <coryv> Hi
[07:42] <_nate> dabaSlon: i want to go back to how it was before i set it
[07:42] <dabaSlon> yo...
[07:43] <Seveas> sudo passwd root
[07:43] <johnnybezak> hey guys for some reason my ipod is automounting read-only, i can't seem to work out how to make it mount rw, it worked yesterday but now it doesn't any ideas?
[07:43] <coryv> I have a dumb question
[07:43] <dabaSlon> nope...
[07:43] <Seveas> oh i missed the point :)
[07:43] <dabaSlon> but, go ahead...
[07:43] <Seveas> _nate, sudo passwd -L root
[07:43] <Seveas> that'll remove it
[07:43] <dabaSlon> Seveas: good stuff.
[07:43] <crimsun> ik: ok, that's /proc/asound/cards, but now I need amixer output
[07:43] <Xae> pablo921: yes, ive been trying to get damn ubuntu working ;p
[07:43] <IIIEars> good tip
[07:43] <johnnybezak> coryv: shoot
[07:43] <coryv> I downloaded the Ubuntu AMD64 Install CD... when I burn it.. do I just burn it as downloaded or must I burn a certain part of it in certain order
[07:44] <coryv> ?
[07:44] <Seveas> johnnybezak, can you paste the output of 'mount' on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[07:44] <dabaSlon> is it a .iso?
[07:44] <johnnybezak> yeah just burn the iso
[07:44] <johnnybezak> Seveas:
[07:44] <dabaSlon> burn as cd image...
[07:44] <johnnybezak> Seveas: ok
[07:44] <coryv> Well there's tons of stuff on this CD
[07:44] <dabaSlon> coryv: it should be one .iso file...
[07:44] <dholbach> hello
[07:44] <coryv> in the isolinux directory?
[07:44] <dabaSlon> am I righgt here?
[07:45] <dabaSlon> yo, dholbach
[07:45] <Seveas> coryv, i suppose you have downloaded the iso? if not, than you didn't download the correct file :)
[07:45] <ik> crimsun ok
[07:45] <dabaSlon> coryv: is there a lot of .iso files in that directory?
[07:45] <dabaSlon> :)
[07:45] <ik> crimsun u mean totem?
[07:45] <coryv> There appears to be none, lol
[07:45] <coryv> Can someone link me?
[07:45] <Seveas> oops gotta go now, bus leaves in 10 minutes and it's a 9 minute walk
[07:45] <IIIEars> coryv - if you need a free iso tool for windows "ISOPowertoy" by alex feinman M$ windows media center edition devleoper.
[07:46] <IIIEars> Linux is so cool - been burning isos all day no problem.
[07:46] <johnnybezak> Seveas: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/282511
[07:46] <dabaSlon> Im so lostin windows, Im looking around for icons...
[07:46] <metalsand> Why does that make Linux cool? :x
[07:46] <dabaSlon> johnnybezak: for some reason he quit IRC...
[07:46] <johnnybezak> dabaSlon: nooooo hehe
[07:47] <eruin> haha, I used an xp computer the other day
[07:47] <dabaSlon> hehe, maybe just a mitake.
[07:47] <dabaSlon> s
[07:47] <eruin> I was lost
[07:47] <IIIEars> Because it does so many things natively plus learning one thing leads you to the power of doing several other things with similar commands. - grin
[07:47] <dabaSlon> Right, I use some 2k at work...
[07:47] <eruin> seriously I had no idea what to do and where to do it
[07:47] <johnnybezak> anyone else here hip to the hal stuff
[07:47] <dabaSlon> and in a different setup...
[07:47] <pablo921> johnnybezak, he had to go to work, i think.
[07:47] <johnnybezak> is there anywhere the prefs. are set
[07:47] <johnnybezak> pablo921:k
[07:48] <dabaSlon> coryv: jsut a sec
[07:48] <crimsun> ik: no, I mean amixer
[07:48] <dabaSlon> coryv: where are you in the world?
[07:48] <coryv> Thanks, dabaSlon
[07:48] <NickVara> Morning folks... anyone know where I can get the default / virgin /etc/apt/sources.list... I (well, a combination of a script and I) borked my install.
[07:48] <chris_ubuntu> OK, maybe I have alienated anyone who might be willing to assist, but I loaded gparted.  Is there anyone interested in taking this capatalist bastard through the new drive format process
[07:48] <coryv> I'm trying to learn how to use Linux
[07:48] <chris_ubuntu> ?
[07:48] <IIIEars> lol - certainly.
[07:48] <dabaSlon> hehe, chris_ubuntu, I apologize if I offended you too...
[07:48] <dabaSlon> I had no intentions...
[07:49] <dabaSlon> at all, just sid what i meant...read it again, I dont think it was very offensive,...
[07:49] <dabaSlon> Just alternatives,...
[07:49] <chris_ubuntu> Well, I am not offended, but I would like to see this movement gain more traction
[07:49] <chris_ubuntu> I really am excited about the idea of using this box
[07:49] <crimsun> metalsand: I need dmesg output after you insert the card into the pcmcia slot
[07:49] <dabaSlon> coryv: where are you in teh world, I am gonna link you to the right place...
[07:49] <metalsand> crimsun: On it
[07:49] <coryv> US
[07:49] <ik> crimsun i dont know where is that
[07:50] <Razor-X> just as before, every time I switch back to Windows, from Linux, it feels so pedantic....
[07:50] <IIIEars> chris_ubuntu - did you want a dual boot set up?
[07:50] <Razor-X> and slow, very _very_ slow
[07:50] <metalsand> crimsun: linkstatus=DISCONNECTED (unhandled)
[07:50] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: no, just reformat a slave HD for some additional storage space
[07:50] <metalsand> linkstatus=ASSOCFAIL (unhandled)
[07:50] <dabaSlon> coryv: do you have a torrent downloader isntalled?
[07:50] <_nate> Razor-X: and unstable, and soooo constricted
[07:50] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: I just popped it into the box as a slave
[07:50] <coryv> no
[07:50] <NickVara> Anyone? I need /etc/apt/sources.list as it was initially installed on Hoary Hedgehog...
[07:51] <metalsand> last two lines, directly after Prism2 card SN: my SN I told you earlier x00 x00 x00
[07:51] <Razor-X> _nate: yes and yes
[07:51] <eruin> http://appelsinjuice.org/ <-- :)
[07:51] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: I am looking in the gparted gui, but don't see anything to reformat.
[07:51] <IIIEars> Razor-X - the reason windows is so slow is all of the life support assist apps hanging on it. anti-virus,anti-spyware, anti-registry tampering, firewalls, etc
[07:51] <dabaSlon> coryv, consider it, it is likely faster... http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent , or if not... http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-live-amd64.iso
[07:51] <dabaSlon> and safer, more likely to download correctly.
[07:51] <Razor-X> NickVara: go on the Ubuntu guide, and there's an unmodified sources.list when it teaches you how to add extra repositories
[07:52] <eruin> IIIEars: actually, cedega running on my ubuntu install runs games much faster than a clean windows install
[07:52] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - just delete and recreate the partition s you need they will be quick formatted and ready to use.
[07:52] <Razor-X> IIIEars: yeah, I know, and the fact that all Microsoft partition deviations seem to get slower over time
[07:52] <eruin> which is kind of a sad testament to windows' lack of performance
[07:52] <NickVara> Razor-X... ty... I'll try and find that.
[07:52] <crimsun> metalsand: no, I need all dmesg output -> pastebin
[07:52] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: Well, don't I need to be able to see it first?
[07:52] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: In gparted?
[07:52] <metalsand> crimsun: I ripped the internal card out
[07:52] <ik> which one is the program to install more programs in ubuntu?
[07:53] <crimsun> ik: open a Terminal, type amixer, and paste its output to pastebin
[07:53] <metalsand> crimsun: I can't acccess the internet right now with the laptop, and I don't have a thumbdrive
[07:53] <eruin> ik: synaptic
[07:53] <ik> crimsun ok
[07:53] <crimsun> metalsand: "the internal" one being the 2915?
[07:53] <metalsand> do you think if I put back in my interal wireless card it could conflict
[07:53] <ik> eruin thanks :)
[07:53] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu: are you running ubuntu, and just want to reformat a second hard drive?
[07:53] <metalsand> Yes, crimsun
[07:53] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: yes, exactly
[07:53] <coryv> cool thanks, dabaSlon
[07:53] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - i have to come clean i don't use gpart qtparted, fdisk, and cfdisk are better for me.
[07:53] <metalsand> I'm on my Desktop
[07:53] <crimsun> metalsand: ok, that's going to make troubleshooting difficult
[07:53] <dabaSlon> yup...
[07:54] <metalsand> crimsun: Do you want me to put the internal card back in?
[07:54] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu: hm...is there anything you want to keep on that hard drive?
[07:54] <crimsun> metalsand: that would certainly help, yes
[07:54] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: No, it can get wiped clean
[07:54] <metalsand> crimsun: I'll do that now
[07:54] <metalsand> crimsun: How much later will you be up?
[07:54] <crimsun> for a few hours, but I can't do this all night
[07:54] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: It is going to hold some awful religious music MP3's for my mother.
[07:55] <metalsand> K
[07:55] <metalsand> I'm shutting down my latpop, then I'll throw the internal card back in
[07:55] <metalsand> and hope I didn't break that :#
[07:55] <metalsand> :#
[07:55] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu: see...that is exactly what I was telling you...gtparted is a gui, and you just wanna format a hard drive...it is like using partition magic for that in windows...you should be using a Unix command...like, cfdisk...
[07:56] <dabaSlon> that will give you everything you need, you just had an approach, and I told you that you should view it differently..from a command line perspective...sicne your mom wont be doing gtparted anyhow....
[07:56] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: You will have to walk me through it line by line.  There is no way for me to spend the time required to learn those commands
[07:56] <ik> crimsun it now there :)
[07:56] <IIIEars> chris_ubuntu - you can add and delete partitions quickly. - if you get into trouble gpart complains it can't access the disk reboot and it will access it.
[07:56] <dabaSlon> nope, itsd a gui...inside commabnd line...
[07:56] <dabaSlon> sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb
[07:56] <dabaSlon> and that will show you everything...
[07:56] <dabaSlon> make sure before you do that...
[07:56] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: OK, so let me do that
[07:56] <blake> i'm haveing trouble installing appache and webmin
[07:56] <dabaSlon> that hdb is in fact that hard drive...
[07:57] <dabaSlon> by...ls /dev , and pasting that into http://pastebin.com, please.
[07:57] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: How do I make sure that hdb is in fact that HD?
[07:57] <crimsun> ik: well, that's simple enough: unmute Master and increase its volume.
[07:57] <dabaSlon> hehe, I like ripping Crimsun off for style...
[07:57] <IIIEars> gpart is really best at shrinking and growing partitions - fdisk and cfdisk are quicker at creating new ones
[07:57] <pablo921> dabaSlon,thanks i had never heard of cfdisk before. just checked it out. what did i  install gparted for?
[07:58] <crimsun> ik: open a Terminal, and use alsamixer
[07:58] <crimsun> ik: press 'm' to unmute
[07:58] <dabaSlon> for resizing hard drives that have something on them...
[07:58] <ik> crimsun ok :)
[07:58] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: How do I copy that output?  Just select, cut, and paste with the mouse?
[07:58] <dabaSlon> or, use ctrl+c to copy, and ctrl+v to paste...
[07:58] <dabaSlon> invest in the long run;)
[07:58] <mebaran151> hey
[07:58] <dabaSlon> haha, I am manic depressive today...
[07:58] <mebaran151> anyone help me fix a virtualy device
[07:58] <chris_ubuntu> OK, so select witht the mouse and use the same MS windows conventions
[07:59] <dabaSlon> exactly.
[07:59] <dabaSlon> same GUI conventions.
[07:59] <dabaSlon> for that part...
[07:59] <dabaSlon> another way to do it yourself....
[07:59] <eruin> what's with the bad mouth?
[07:59] <dabaSlon> is to see which place the hard drive is mounted, and to know that way...
[08:00] <dabaSlon> /etc/fstab, I think is the file that tells you..
[08:00] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: OK, I pasted it there
[08:00] <dabaSlon> give me the URL, pls.
[08:00] <dabaSlon> :)
[08:00] <mebaran151> I need to fix my usb printer
[08:00] <dabaSlon> mebaran151: that HP?
[08:00] <mebaran151> when I ever I print it
[08:00] <mebaran151> it throws an error
[08:00] <mebaran151> nope
[08:00] <mebaran151> Epson
[08:00] <mebaran151> Gimp print driver
[08:00] <dabaSlon> which epson?
[08:00] <mebaran151> that usb device does not exist
[08:01] <mebaran151> R800
[08:01] <mebaran151> it is supported
[08:01] <mebaran151> it worked under warty
[08:01] <blake> hey yall if i'ma newbie do yal think i can get apache and webmin ste up tonight?????
[08:01] <dabaSlon> is that the one you addded to your printers list?
[08:01] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: http://pastebin.com/282515
[08:01] <blake> how long do yall think it will take
[08:01] <eruin> blake: sudo apt-get install apache2 should do it
[08:01] <ik> crimsun thanks a lot man now its working :)
[08:01] <crimsun> ik: np
[08:01] <mebaran151> this is the error it is throws
[08:01] <blake> i have apache1
[08:01] <eruin> blake: webmin is a bit more tricky ;)
[08:01] <dabaSlon> blake, waht site???
[08:02] <mebaran151> now it detects
[08:02] <mebaran151> I am confused
[08:02] <blake> yeah i don't even get the concept
[08:02] <mebaran151> very confused
[08:02] <blake> i got it from
[08:02] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Here is the hdb line -- hdb      ptyba  ptyq5  ptyv0  ptyzb    tty49  ttyd7  ttys1   ttyt7  ttyy2
[08:02] <mebaran151> I try to make it through the error and it works
[08:02] <mebaran151> that is not nice
[08:02] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu: at this time, how many partitions do you have on taht hard drive?
[08:02] <blake> synaptc
[08:02] <eruin> blake: been a while since I touched webmin, but last time I had to run some weird script to set the admin password for webmin
[08:02] <dabaSlon> it actually goes vertically down...
[08:02] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I don't know.  It is an old NTFS drive.  It can be totally wiped
[08:02] <mebaran151> just kill it
[08:02] <eruin> blake: I also hear webmin is insecure and totally unfit for ubuntu :P
[08:02] <dabaSlon> mebaran151: it is not nice that it works now?
[08:03] <dabaSlon> ok, then...do you know which hard drive is the slave and which is the master?
[08:03] <blake> well apache has a firewall that comes with it right?
[08:03] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:03] <mebaran151> that is just mean
[08:03] <dabaSlon> mebaran151: I had teh same issue...
[08:03] <mebaran151> because when I need to acutally print it
[08:03] <dabaSlon> nothing wrong with that...as long as it works from now on...
[08:03] <dabaSlon> oh, yeah, that is bad...
[08:03] <mebaran151> the virtual device usb://printer_name
[08:04] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I know physically.  I have an open box in front of me.  Is that what you mean?
[08:04] <mebaran151> sporadically disappears
[08:04] <dabaSlon> ok, along the wire the thick but flat wire...
[08:04] <nothingssomethin> this is better
[08:04] <eruin> mebaran151: hoary?
[08:04] <dabaSlon> which hard drive is the one connected to the end of that wire?
[08:04] <mark345> anyone here try ejecting a dvd using the button on their drive, instead of right clicking on the icon on the desktop?
[08:04] <chris_ubuntu> slave is on the "terminating" end of the cable inside my box
[08:05] <vergeofimpetus> i like that better
[08:05] <vergeofimpetus> so it's telling me i need to re configure ..........
[08:05] <IIIEars> chris_ubuntu - you will likely ned to double check the bios to see the boot order as many have an option to select which drive is seen first by the installed OS.
[08:05] <eruin> mebaran151: this is only a farfetched thought, but maybe http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SystemCrashWhenUnmountingMedia/view?searchterm=inotify%20usb has something to do with it?
[08:05] <dabaSlon> nope, slave is on the other connection, the master is at the end of the wire...
[08:05] <vergeofimpetus> For this package to work, you need to modify your /etc/nsswitch.conf to use the ldap datasource.  There is an example file at /usr/share/doc/libnss-ldap/examples/nsswitch.ldap which can be used as an example for your nsswitch setup, or it can be copied over your current setup.
[08:05] <kakalto> does anyone have an idea of a transcode package?
[08:05] <vergeofimpetus> /usr/share/doc/libnss-ldap/examples/nsswitch.ldap
[08:05] <eruin> mebaran151: nm, that bug is fixed
[08:05] <mark345> nsswitch?
[08:05] <vergeofimpetus> dosen't even exist
[08:05] <kakalto> I tried gtranscode, but it won't install
[08:06] <ik> any one knows why i can whatch some avi, but some dont?
[08:06] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu: if you ahve a few secs, I can boot into linux, so you dont screw up...
[08:06] <dabaSlon> But, you can do it if you can read the screen yourself.
[08:06] <mark345> some avi files were made in premiere pro
[08:06] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I have a few secs
[08:06] <dabaSlon> do a cfdisk /dev/hdb, for now...
[08:06] <pinS> whats a good ftpd? for my lappy so my buddy can connect
[08:06] <mark345> and they have a stupid codec not in ubuntu
[08:06] <pinS> since im tired of gaim and router forwarind issues
[08:06] <kakalto> ahhh
[08:06] <kakalto> transcode isn't available
[08:06] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Are you suggesting that I actually change my order in which they are plugged in?
[08:06] <kakalto> anyone know where I can get transcode?
[08:07] <kakalto> preferably a dev?
[08:07] <vergeofimpetus> does someone know apache really well in here
[08:07] <kakalto> *deb?
[08:07] <crimsun> kakalto: from debian-marillat
[08:07] <metalsand> crimsun: Anything new?
[08:07] <kakalto> crimsun, I have that repo, but I can't find it
[08:07] <raydogg``> Is there a how-to on installing the latest kernel from kernel.org on ubuntu?
[08:07] <IIIEars> ik - some avi's are encrypted and need to check for a key on the web before they will play.
[08:07] <crimsun> metalsand: waiting for you
[08:08] <ik> IIIEars oh ok
[08:08] <metalsand> Right, I have to pastebine that first -.-
[08:08] <talmir> I am trying to install vmware but in the install it asks "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  " But they dont seem to be there.. Anyone know the right dir for these files?
[08:08] <raydogg``> tal
[08:08] <raydogg``> apt-get install linux-headesr
[08:08] <raydogg``> apt-get install linux-headers
[08:08] <talmir> oh
[08:08] <raydogg``> and then re run the vmware install
[08:08] <raydogg``> it will auto find them
[08:09] <talmir> thanks :P
[08:09] <raydogg``> np
[08:09] <crimsun> kakalto: which debian-marilliat branches do you have in your sources.list?
[08:09] <crimsun> metalsand: brb
[08:09] <kakalto> crimsun, ones with #'s before them :P ~FIXED~
[08:10] <pinS> proftpd or proftpd-common?
[08:10] <danko123456> chris_ubuntu: you figured it out? it tells you which format the partition is in, how to change it and everything....
[08:10] <chris_ubuntu> danko123456: What is the it you are referring to?
[08:11] <IIIEars> thanks raydogg - had the same trouble. - by the way there is a vmware expo in quite a few cities next month - make a visit get a free copy of vmware workstation
[08:11] <danko123456> chris_ubuntu: Now, I suggest you make a user for you r mom, without root privilieges...and, install an SSH server for her, so you can sign in...
[08:11] <ik> thanks a lot everybody =) bye
[08:11] <dabaSlon> get it?
[08:11] <dabaSlon> :)
[08:11] <raydogg``> Np IIIEars, the expo sounds intriguing.
[08:12] <chris_ubuntu> danko123456: Her "sign in" is going to have to be "wiggling" the mouse so the screen saver stops
[08:12] <dabaSlon> hmm?
[08:12] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu: did you cfdisk /dev/hdb?
[08:13] <dabaSlon> in a terminal?
[08:13] <vergeofimpetus> is there a command in terminal to open with??
[08:13] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: not yet.  hang on
[08:13] <dabaSlon> sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb
[08:13] <vergeofimpetus> or to open
[08:13] <vergeofimpetus> like a folder
[08:13] <vergeofimpetus> or show contents
[08:13] <dabaSlon> Im danko, by the way, Chris, nice to meet you:)
[08:13] <kakalto> can anyone help? when I apt-get update, it freezes at 99% of the debian mirrilat repos
[08:13] <dabaSlon> spread the Ubuntu...
[08:14] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: "Fatal Error, cannot open drive, presss any key to continue"
[08:14] <dabaSlon> dedication to giving to others...:)
[08:14] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Nice to meet you danko, and thank you for your help
[08:14] <dabaSlon> ok, then it is a little borked. let me look up my terminal, now that I am in Ubuntu...
[08:14] <liable> kakalto: think its a server prob, someone else was having same prob
[08:14] <kakalto> what am I to do? I want a package from those repos
[08:15] <dabaSlon> same exact thing here....so, let us see what fdisk can tell  us...
[08:15] <liable> kakalto: wait :)
[08:15] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - thats the error i see a lot don't worry reboot and it disappears. everything it says it did before it complained is as it should be.
[08:15] <crimsun> metalsand: back
[08:15] <kakalto> liable, is there some kind of ftp mirrors for the mirilat repos?
[08:15] <metalsand> k
[08:15] <kakalto> like, a place where I can get a package
[08:15] <metalsand> Great
[08:15] <metalsand> slashdot.org could not be found
[08:15] <liable> kakalto: dont think so
[08:15] <dabaSlon> chris+
[08:15] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: You are suggesting if I reboot and retype the command it will recognize the drive?
[08:15] <metalsand> now my internal card isn't working
[08:16] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu: all right...
[08:16] <kakalto> liable, :(. Thanks anyway
[08:16] <dabaSlon> sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb
[08:16] <crimsun> metalsand: but your 2915 should
[08:16] <eruin> can md5sum be used for simple strings?
[08:16] <metalsand> that's the one I'm talking about
[08:16] <dabaSlon> IIIEars: hehe...newb...
[08:16] <ggibeau> can anyone help me with something?
[08:16] <lunatech> i wanted all the packages in the universe repository for offline install.. is there a ISO available for that ?
[08:16] <dabaSlon> maybe, anyhow...
[08:16] <IIIEars> yes - did you use "sudo"
[08:16] <liable> kakalto: try emailing the admin, they may not know
[08:16] <crimsun> metalsand: does it have an ip assigned?
[08:16] <metalsand> I'm checking now
[08:16] <dabaSlon> kakalto: comment it out for now...do you need it now?
[08:17] <metalsand> I commited out some stuff in /etc/network/interfaces because I wasn't using the card
[08:17] <kakalto> I would like it now, 'cause a package I want is in there
[08:17] <IIIEars> lol - i am a seasoned newb - 2 weeks - lol
[08:17] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: The sudo command above is for me to try, yes?
[08:17] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu is quiet, he likes cfdisk, I bet...
[08:17] <dabaSlon> right...
[08:17] <dabaSlon> ok, sorry
[08:17] <dabaSlon> :)
[08:17] <dabaSlon> youll like cfdisk, I bet ...
[08:17] <metalsand> Just got an IP, crimsun: I'm up
[08:17] <IIIEars> yes sudo cfdisk
[08:17] <metalsand> So, you want all of dmesg in pastebin?
[08:17] <vergeofimpetus> does anyone know how to configure /etc/nsswitch.conf file for apache
[08:18] <kakalto> dabaSlon, I'll just google it, hopefullly I won't have too many dependancy problems.
[08:18] <dabaSlon> kakalto: what are you trying to get?
[08:18] <kakalto> transcode
[08:18] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: SOMETHING HAPPENED!  Oh my, we have contact!
[08:19] <kakalto> I looked on the debian database, but it's not tehre
[08:19] <IIIEars> chris_ubuntu - rofl
[08:19] <ggibeau> anyone know why my audio/video wont sync in gxine?
[08:19] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu: I bet yuou like cfdisk?
[08:19] <chris_ubuntu> what is rofl?
[08:19] <dabaSlon> chris_ubuntu: does it show the partition as ntfs?
[08:19] <cafuego> Any mac mini/hoary users here?
[08:19] <dabaSlon> google it... I have to all the time with these IRC abbrevs...
[08:19] <chris_ubuntu> yep, I always format in NTFS on my win boxes
[08:19] <IIIEars> "rolling on the floor laughing" - don't worry it is a good thing. - grin
[08:19] <crimsun> kakalto: transcode isn't in debian, no. It's in marillat.
[08:20] <chris_ubuntu> and it shows it
[08:20] <dabaSlon> PCMCIA ok, so it is shown as ntfs?
[08:20] <dabaSlon> great
[08:20] <metalsand> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/282519
[08:20] <kakalto> crimsun, but marillat's list is down at the moment
[08:20] <dabaSlon> well, follow the gui:)
[08:20] <kakalto> or atleast I can't get it
[08:20] <kakalto> so I can't get transcode from there
[08:20] <crimsun> kakalto: so wait a few hours
[08:20] <dabaSlon> crimsun: you could get the packages for him, and even the dependencies, righty?
[08:20] <kakalto> crimsun, I've had this same problem for a few weeks
[08:20] <dabaSlon> no y:)
[08:20] <crimsun> kakalto: it was up earlier for me
[08:21] <kakalto> crimsun, well, I'm unlucky, and can't get it when it's up. therefore google is the answer, yes?
[08:21] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: OK, this reminds me of my old "Pine" days in collage.  I can handle this, but which option to reformat?
[08:21] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: "Delete"?
[08:21] <dabaSlon> delete first, then create in empty space, yes...
[08:21] <dabaSlon> same as anywhere...
[08:21] <dabaSlon> well, not same..
[08:21] <dabaSlon> :(
[08:21] <pablo921>  crimsun:is the marillat server problem why i cn't install dvdrip?
[08:22] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Primary or Logical?
[08:22] <dabaSlon> still kinda stresses\dut...
[08:22] <IIIEars> Crimsun - I keep installing packages and nothing breaks. synaptic can't be any good.  - lol
[08:22] <crimsun> pablo921: if dvdrip is in the marillat repo, yes
[08:22] <dabaSlon> anything, chris, you have as many wrong choices as you want...
[08:22] <crimsun> IIIEars: yes, it must be bad =)
[08:22] <difeta> I have a gnome keyboard shortcut setup to raise and lower my soudn volume, but it seems to be adjusting the sound of the card I'm not using. How can i solve this problem?
[08:23] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: OK, but I assume I don't want to toggle the "bootable" flag to this partition?
[08:23] <dabaSlon> choose a partition type, anything...
[08:23] <dabaSlon> no, if you are not going to boot...
[08:23] <dabaSlon> from it...
[08:23] <m> how to install firefox extensions, when I click the link to them, it forces me to download them, not let me run them via firefox?
[08:23] <dabaSlon> anyhow:)
[08:23] <vergeofimpetus> i am completely gone
[08:23] <chris_ubuntu> daba
[08:23] <vergeofimpetus> sooo confused
[08:24] <dabaSlon> so, as I said, I suggest you enable an ssh server, create a user name for her with no root privilieges...
[08:24] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Ok, it may be doing it
[08:24] <_nate_sleeping> gnite
[08:24] <dabaSlon> vergeofimpetus: whats up^
[08:24] <dabaSlon> nite
[08:24] <dabaSlon> nate
[08:24] <vergeofimpetus> anyone wantto help with appache
[08:24] <metalsand2> crimsun: You see my pastebine
[08:24] <dabaSlon> help what?
[08:24] <crimsun> metalsand2: yes, I'm reading it
[08:24] <dabaSlon> haha, I love that...
[08:25] <pablo921>  crimsun:dvdrip depends on transcode. i think that is from the marillat.
[08:25] <dabaSlon> chris, may is an understatement:)
[08:25] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Hmmm... says "no primary partitions are marked bootable.  DOS MBR cannot boot this.  Toggle Bootable flag  of current partition"  Any advice?
[08:25] <crimsun> pablo921: if you can't get it, then yes
[08:25] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Keep in mind, this is just extra HD space.  Bootable OS is on other phyiscal drive.
[08:26] <pablo921>  crimsun:maybe some day
[08:26] <dabaSlon> so...
[08:26] <dabaSlon> chris, not working?
[08:26] <vergeofimpetus> ok
[08:26] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Did you see my note above?
[08:26] <dabaSlon> what told you that?
[08:26] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - erm - just curious. will you install windows to this drive?
[08:26] <dabaSlon> write means save...
[08:26] <dabaSlon> right?
[08:26] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: No, this is going to be blank space to save some music files
[08:27] <chris_ubuntu> no windows on this machine, period
[08:27] <chris_ubuntu> only a ubunto machine
[08:27] <vergeofimpetus> i don't think anyone wants to help the nb with appache tho ...........once i have it installed i don't need any configuration help tho
[08:27] <crimsun> metalsand2: um, are you _sure_ you're using 0.2.1-pre26?
[08:27] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - Windows will nuke everything with it's install and assume (wrongly) that it owns the entire drive.
[08:27] <dabaSlon> right, I got that...
[08:27] <crimsun> metalsand2: because your dmesg says otherwise
[08:27] <dabaSlon> chris, where did you get that error?
[08:27] <dabaSlon> verge, dude, ask teh question...
[08:27] <marky_mark> anyone know of how to setup a 3dfx voodoo 2 vc on hoary?
[08:28] <dabaSlon> marky mark, awesome, I love that dude...
[08:28] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: When I selected "write" in that cfdisk program
[08:28] <metalsand2> crimsun: I downloaded the file in the guide, and that was its name
[08:28] <dabaSlon> ok, did you select type?
[08:28] <marky_mark> :P
[08:28] <vergeofimpetus> i want to know how to configure the nsswitch.conf dir for apache
[08:28] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: yes, I think I selected Linux as type
[08:28] <crimsun> metalsand2: from ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre26.tar.[gz|bz2]  ?
[08:29] <vergeofimpetus> it says i need to configure it
[08:29] <metalsand2> wget ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre26.tar.gz
[08:29] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I guess I didn't select type.  there is a whole list.  which type do I want?
[08:29] <marky_mark> compiled the device3dfx-source file but still not finding it in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:29] <dabaSlon> so you didnt?
[08:29] <dabaSlon> hehe, sweet...
[08:29] <dabaSlon> select, like...
[08:30] <dabaSlon> I wish ivoks was here..
[08:30] <dabaSlon> xfs, I think is what he said,..
[08:30] <IIIEars> chris_ubuntu - i believe it is on the second screen - ext3 linux filesystem
[08:30] <crimsun> any of the ones listed is fine
[08:31] <IIIEars> avoid reiserfs for now in my experience it is difficult to remove.
[08:31] <dabaSlon> crimsun: right, referring to our discussion?
[08:31] <crimsun> dabaSlon: (for filesystems, yes)
[08:31] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I have one just called "linux" which is choice 83
[08:31] <crimsun> IIIEars: reiser3 is mature finally
[08:31] <dabaSlon> now, chris, you will also need to have the drive mount at boot...
[08:32] <IIIEars> good tip - thanks
[08:32] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I am still trying to format the disk
[08:32] <dabaSlon> right, it wont take you much longer...
[08:32] <dabaSlon> it is easy...:)
[08:32] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Well, I dont' think it is starting.  I keep getting this error
[08:33] <dabaSlon> paste the whole thing to pastebin.com, please.
[08:33] <dabaSlon> the screen where it is dislayed
[08:33] <dabaSlon> ctrl+shift+c is copy
[08:33] <dabaSlon> din a terminal,dont ctrl+c
[08:33] <dabaSlon> that is end program.
[08:33] <dabaSlon> or, use your mouse.
[08:34] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: http://pastebin.com/282521
[08:35] <dabaSlon> No primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this.         Toggle bootable flag of the current partition
[08:36] <bluemax> is anyone here familiar with mplayer?
[08:36] <dabaSlon> like what, bluemax, I heard of it...
[08:36] <dabaSlon> chris, get the hint?
[08:36] <mole_> I'm having difficulty getting my Palm Tungsten T to reliably synchronise with gnome-pilot and evolution.  I'm using hoary with the latest updates.   I can get working as a one-off using the instructions at ubuntuguide.org, but being able to do it consistently is a problem.  gpilotd just doesn't seem to be able to see the udev device for the palm unless I have the configuration window open in evolution (gpilotd-control).  The gnome apple
[08:36] <mole_> t frontend to gpilotd also doesn't appear to work.  Anyone else having trouble with this?
[08:36] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Yes, but that doesn't make sense.  Why would I want this to be bootable if it is a slave backup space?
[08:37] <bluemax> ok, i'm trying to connect to a nsv stream (at a url) but it's almost always full, so i have to have it loop in mplayer but i don't know how
[08:37] <dabaSlon> cause it wants you to:)
[08:37] <bluemax> #mplayer is dead so i thought i'd ask here
[08:37] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: by bootable, I am understanding that this is where the OS sits and boots from.  Is this incorrect?
[08:37] <dabaSlon> pls try it, chris...
[08:38] <dabaSlon> im dying to know if it works...
[08:38] <dabaSlon> to answer your question, yes...
[08:38] <IIIEars> chris_ubuntu - no need for a bootable flag if you will only use it for storage
[08:38] <ryman> whats the command to check system up time ?
[08:38] <crimsun> ,,uptime''
[08:38] <dabaSlon> IIIEars: did you read the pastebin?
[08:38] <chris_ubuntu> yes, seems to have written.  So my above understanding is incorrect?
[08:38] <dabaSlon> it is correct.
[08:39] <dabaSlon> it would only seem that a hard drive does not like to be formatted without a bootable partition.
[08:39] <dabaSlon> ok, let us mount that baby, then...
[08:39] <ryman> crimsun, thank you
[08:39] <dabaSlon> so, it is hdb1?
[08:39] <IIIEars> yes - what did i miss? - it is complaining that it can't be booted from but that is no problem for windows to see it.
[08:39] <chris_ubuntu> hang on.  Let me see
[08:39] <metalsand2> crimsun: what do I do know?
[08:40] <dabaSlon> dos mbr, meaning windows, IIIEars?
[08:40] <dabaSlon> or windows meaning linux?
[08:40] <dabaSlon> or exactly as you said:-p
[08:40] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: OK, lets mount it.  How?
[08:40] <dabaSlon> is it hdb1?
[08:40] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Well, I don't see it in gparted.
[08:41] <dabaSlon> sudo mkdir /media/relmp3 :)
[08:41] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - you will use this disk for storage? - if you need storage and it is formatted for a correct file type windows will see it.
[08:41] <ryman> how do I make a dir in computer ?
[08:41] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Windows?  This is a ubuntu box.
[08:41] <crimsun> metalsand2: are you running 0.2.1-pre26? I never saw absolute confirmation from you.
[08:41] <dabaSlon> sudo mount /dev/hd1 /media/relmp3/
[08:41] <metalsand2> crimsun: That's what I installed from
[08:42] <dabaSlon> chris, you worry too much, for one, you will have a haeart attack...
[08:42] <dabaSlon> second, I was speaking to IIIEars
[08:42] <metalsand2> I know I unziped that file, went to that directory and made the module from that directory
[08:42] <dabaSlon> nothing related to youl
[08:42] <crimsun> metalsand2: if you can confirm from the filename, fine.
[08:42] <dabaSlon> ryman: what ditr?
[08:42] <dabaSlon> mkdir?
[08:42] <dabaSlon> through gnome?
[08:42] <IIIEars> lol - sorry - the bootable flag is just that a signal to the boot loader to look for an os there.
[08:42] <dabaSlon> no need to be sorry...
[08:43] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I just don't understand.
[08:43] <dabaSlon> I work customer service, imagine how happy my customers are...they are all like, sorry:(
[08:43] <ryman> dabaSlon, I want to make a dir in Computer
[08:43] <ryman> but I dont' know wat dir it is
[08:43] <dabaSlon> chris, which part?
[08:43] <dabaSlon> ryman: no, come on....
[08:43] <dabaSlon> serious?
[08:43] <crimsun> metalsand2: yay? nay?
[08:43] <dabaSlon> cant be..
[08:43] <dabaSlon> how do you know that is what you want then?
[08:44] <dabaSlon> chris, sudo mkdir /media/relmp3
[08:44] <ryman> dabaSlon, like you go to Places - Computer
[08:44] <dabaSlon> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/relmp3/
[08:44] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Well, should I be able to see this disk space now?  And where?
[08:44] <ryman> I want to make a folder in that place
[08:44] <dabaSlon> copy and paste those into your terminal.
[08:44] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - you won't need a bootable parttion to use that drive as storage. format it in a filetype that the OS you choose will understand and you're done. - :)
[08:44] <ryman> but I don't know waht dir is the Places - Computer
[08:44] <dabaSlon> ok, you need tro be root to do that, ryman,..
[08:44] <dabaSlon> what folders does it have>?
[08:45] <dabaSlon> etc, home, var, usr, and so on?
[08:45] <ryman> CD ROM Drive, floppy ...
[08:45] <ryman> filesystem
[08:45] <dabaSlon> no, that is where you mount...
[08:45] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: I formated it in a Linux file sys, but can't see it anywhere.  How would I drag a file to it?
[08:45] <dabaSlon> cant make a folder there, why do you want to?
[08:45] <dabaSlon> chris...
[08:45] <ryman> i want to mount my second HD there
[08:45] <dabaSlon> I told you, mount the hard.
[08:45] <dabaSlon> Nope, cant do...
[08:45] <dabaSlon> linux fs is in a shape of a tree...
[08:45] <sap> hi, I'm having a bit of trouble booting using the live CD. It boots up as far as 'elevator: using anticipatory as default io scheduler' and then stops. Any ideas?
[08:45] <dabaSlon> everything starts at root...
[08:46] <dabaSlon> or, maybe you can...
[08:46] <dabaSlon> heh
[08:46] <dabaSlon> sorry
[08:46] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - are you in linux now?
[08:46] <ryman> i c thanks
[08:46] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: yes
[08:46] <Q_Continuum> dabaSlon, maybe walk him through making a softlink on his desktop to it?
[08:46] <dabaSlon> chris, are you ignoring my possts?
[08:46] <ryman> dabaSlon, my ubuntu keep freezing and firefox keep crashing. I wonder why
[08:46] <chris_ubuntu> IIIEars: I am doing this all from a linux box.  I am chatting on the box I am doing this on
[08:46] <dabaSlon> Q_Continuum: be my guest:)
[08:46] <Q_Continuum> I can't remember, and I'm not booted to Ubuntu atm lol
[08:47] <IIIEars> okay - do you know if it has been mounted (erm -- Ubuntu is using it?)
[08:47] <dabaSlon> hm....could be that inotify thing, huh, crimsun?
[08:47] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: no, just missing them trying to read and configure.
[08:47] <Q_Continuum> I'm no guru :-)
[08:47] <dabaSlon> for rymans post...
[08:47] <dabaSlon> k, chris...
[08:47] <ryman> what what ?
[08:47] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: yes
[08:47] <ryman> I mnted the 2nd HD into /media/Misc
[08:47] <ryman> I was just wondering if i can mnt it to the Computer
[08:48] <crimsun> dabaSlon: if he's using 2.6.11 from Hoary/universe without that boot param
[08:48] <dabaSlon> when mounting, when it freezes...you can make a soft link, likely as q said..as for freezing, there is some thing with mouinting with inotify and then it does not freeze
[08:48] <dabaSlon> how would eh know?
[08:48] <crimsun> cat /proc/cmdline
[08:49] <dabaSlon> ryman: for the soft link...explore yuor conf editor in apps, system something
[08:49] <dabaSlon> chris...
[08:49] <dabaSlon> make a dir,...moutn the hard to dir...
[08:49] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: yes
[08:49] <ryman> dabaSlon, thanks
[08:49] <crimsun> metalsand2: still waiting for an answer
[08:49] <dabaSlon> sudo mkdir /media/relmp3
[08:49] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: that language doesn't mean anything tangable to me
[08:49] <dabaSlon> sudo mount /dev/hd1 /media/relmp3/
[08:49] <crimsun> metalsand2: I can only troubleshoot for about 15 more minutes
[08:50] <IIIEars> good save dabaslon - my eyes had glazed over - (newb remmember) - lol
[08:50] <dabaSlon> chris, the first part was for ryman, the second, after chris, was for you.
[08:50] <ggibeau> whats the best program for playing mpeg's?
[08:50] <dabaSlon> IIIEars: what?
[08:50] <dabaSlon> id ont get it
[08:50] <dabaSlon> lmao
[08:50] <IIIEars> j/k grin
[08:50] <dabaSlon> I finally lit that baby...
[08:51] <dabaSlon> hah
[08:51] <dabaSlon> lol
[08:51] <dabaSlon> I cant believe I typed that...
[08:51] <chris_ubuntu> OK, I typed that in
[08:51] <dabaSlon> chris, mounted?
[08:51] <chris_ubuntu> what now?
[08:51] <dabaSlon> ls /media/relmp3
[08:51] <dabaSlon> ls -alt /media/relmp3
[08:51] <dabaSlon> thats from my linux assuignment, straight off
[08:51] <vergeofimpetus> i give up for now .....i can't even find apache now dangit
[08:52] <dabaSlon> or Unix, rather.
[08:52] <dabaSlon> apache is downloadable
[08:52] <IIIEars> heh
[08:52] <vergeofimpetus> i install it and now i can't install it
[08:52] <dabaSlon> through...
[08:52] <vergeofimpetus> find it
[08:52] <dabaSlon> apt-get install apache
[08:52] <dabaSlon> what is your issue?
[08:52] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: It just shows a small list and says "total 8"
[08:52] <dabaSlon> chris, did this 3 times today only...
[08:52] <dabaSlon> kewl..
[08:53] <dabaSlon> caus4 nothing is on the hard
[08:53] <dabaSlon> do a ls
[08:53] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I don't know what that means
[08:53] <dabaSlon> just ls
[08:53] <dabaSlon> and tell me a file name
[08:53] <dabaSlon> small file, nothing on the hard:-p
[08:53] <metalsand> Sorry, crimsun
[08:53] <dabaSlon> english.
[08:53] <metalsand> I was having network issues
[08:53] <metalsand> I'm on my latop now, not my desktop anymore
[08:53] <crimsun> metalsand: np. Any word on absolute version confirmation?
[08:54] <dabaSlon> he types that out?
[08:54] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: sorry, I must not be doing it right.  I don't see anything
[08:54] <dabaSlon> verge, dude, what is your issue?
[08:54] <dabaSlon> he left,..
[08:54] <dabaSlon> awesome...
[08:54] <metalsand> crimsun: how could I absolute be sure? I'll check synaptic?
[08:54] <dabaSlon> dude couldnt install apache, and left.
[08:54] <dabaSlon> anyhow...
[08:54] <dabaSlon> chis,...
[08:54] <crimsun> metalsand: check the tarball filename from which you extracted
[08:54] <dabaSlon> in english...
[08:54] <metalsand> Yes, that was the file
[08:55] <fsapo> dabaSlon, burned my dvd ^^ seems that its working
[08:55] <dabaSlon> the folder, /media/relmp3(religiousmp3s...) has nothing in it, therefore, the list you seen was empty...
[08:55] <Q_Continuum> I think dude left because he couldn't find apache in the apps menu. heh.
[08:55] <fsapo> dabaSlon, found this in google: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Burning_Video_DVDs_in_Linux.html
[08:55] <dabaSlon> heh...
[08:55] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: So that indicates the new drive?
[08:55] <dabaSlon> I like the toms hardware one, with the bluesniper.
[08:55] <dabaSlon> riht, that is where the drive is...
[08:55] <dabaSlon> anyhow, let us move on...
[08:56] <dabaSlon> you need to give permissions on that hard drive, and make it mount at boot...dude...
[08:56] <crimsun> metalsand: ok, sec.
[08:56] <dabaSlon> I said I did it 3 times, today, onlyt..
[08:56] <dabaSlon> I work tech support, I do a OE config 5 times at least...
[08:56] <sour-monkey> Howdy
[08:56] <dabaSlon> so, how do we give permissions?
[08:57] <dabaSlon> like a sudo chown -R $user /media/relmp3
[08:58] <dabaSlon> sudo chown -R $USER /media/relmp3
[08:58] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Too few arguments
[08:58] <crimsun> metalsand: did you hear any beeps when you inserted the card?
[08:58] <metalsand> crimsun:
[08:58] <metalsand> This package is useless without the appropriate linux-wlan-ng-modules-x.yy.zz
[08:58] <metalsand> package for the kernel you are running. You may have to build that by hand;
[08:58] <dabaSlon> sorry, chris.
[08:58] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: OK, but I have to end this in a few minutes.  I have a very full day tomorrow.  I really appreciate your help, but for me to do too much of this type of command line config stuff is really an indulgence for me.  Can you tell me where we are tin the process?
[08:58] <dabaSlon> allow her user as well.
[08:58] <dabaSlon> not yours..
[08:58] <cheitania21> hola
[08:58] <dabaSlon> yours is for su.
[08:58] <metalsand> crimsun: none
[08:58] <dabaSlon> sudo...
[08:58] <dabaSlon> not hers.
[08:58] <dabaSlon> ok?
[08:59] <dabaSlon> over ssh...and learn bash:)
[08:59] <dabaSlon> you would have to sign in as her now...
[08:59] <dabaSlon> are you?
[08:59] <metalsand> Crimsun: what I pasted was from synaptic, I've made the modules but do I have linux-wlan-ng, or should I have it installed in synaptic? In synaptic I have no listed installed version
[08:59] <dabaSlon> you can remove her permissions in a file...
[09:00] <dabaSlon> chris, made changes?
[09:00] <crimsun> metalsand: first of all, did you create Debian packages, or did you compile from tarball?
[09:00] <dabaSlon> then also a file needs to be edited for mounting.
[09:00] <crimsun> metalsand: the cleanest (and recommended method) is to use Debianised source, not tarball
[09:00] <metalsand> crimsun: compiled from the tarball
[09:00] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: The prompt came back and said "too few arguments"
[09:00] <metalsand> crimsun: I just followed the guide
[09:00] <dabaSlon> after the $USER?
[09:01] <metalsand> crimsun: I originally tried install the linux-wlan-ng from synaptic
[09:01] <metalsand> crimsun: but that never worked... I never saw the part about it being useless with the linux-wlan-ng-modules, though
[09:01] <metalsand> crimsun: now I'm not so certain I have everything configured correctly
[09:01] <crimsun> metalsand: I have no idea what you've done
[09:02] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Really, I don't know who you are addressing.  I can't keep watching this ongoing paging and try to figure out which mssgs are for me.  Thanks to everyone, but I am going to have to move on.
[09:02] <dabaSlon> it is gonna spew out a lotta lines.
[09:02] <crimsun> metalsand: if you've compiled and installed from tarball, you'll have to use the tarball's instructions
[09:02] <dabaSlon> dude, I did it here...
[09:02] <dabaSlon> right now...
[09:02] <dabaSlon> but, see ya later...
[09:02] <metalsand> crimsun: The current thing I've done is followed this guide, exactly: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary
[09:02] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Is "dude" me
[09:02] <chris_ubuntu> ?
[09:03] <dabaSlon> haha
[09:03] <dabaSlon> nope...
[09:03] <dabaSlon> sudo chown -R $USER /media/relmp3
[09:03] <dabaSlon> is you...
[09:04] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: OK, I did it, but it just gave me another prompt...
[09:04] <dabaSlon> right, asking for a password?
[09:04] <dabaSlon> perhaps?
[09:04] <metalsand> crimsun: I installed the kernel modules, should I now install wlan-ng from synaptic?
[09:04] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I don't know what the result of these commands is supposed to be.  No, if the password coment is for me, it did not ask for a password.
[09:05] <crimsun> oh my.
[09:05] <crimsun> that wiki page is _horrible_
[09:05] <IIIEars> Wow! - crimsun is usually very reserved.
[09:05] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: Fuck it.  This is an exercise in futility.
[09:05] <crimsun> step 3 is utterly broken
[09:05] <dabaSlon> IIIEars: awesome.
[09:05] <metalsand> crimsun: The one I pasted? :x
[09:05] <dabaSlon> chris, right...
[09:06] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: right?
[09:06] <crimsun> metalsand: paste your /etc/wlan/wlan.conf onto pastebin
[09:06] <dabaSlon> exactly.
[09:07] <IIIEars> Chris_ubuntu - if you have set permissions and have mounted it - correct me if i'm wrong someone - there is no more left to do but use the drive you have created. :)
[09:07] <dabaSlon> its kinda bedtime-ish...
[09:07] <dabaSlon> man...
[09:07] <dabaSlon> ok, night.
[09:08] <metalsand> http://pastebin.com/282529
[09:08] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: How do I use it?  I can't see it in the GUI?  There is a serious gap in communication here (probably based on my misunderstanding)...
[09:08] <dabaSlon_slp> haha
[09:08] <sour-monkey> How much disk space does a typical PPC Ubuntu installation use?
[09:08] <dabaSlon_slp> thats cool, chris, use your drive, and make it am\utomount in fstab, IIIEarsknows how.
[09:08] <bob2> sour-monkey: 1.8GB by default
[09:09] <Raskall> good morning. I have managed to "enlist" 3 or 4 ubuntu-newbies now. They wanted a good distro for their laptop. :)
[09:09] <sour-monkey> 1.8 GB?  Damn
[09:09] <bob2> sour-monkey: 1.2GB if you don't precopy the .debs
[09:09] <sour-monkey> I only have 20GB, and I want OS X on here too
[09:09] <dabaSlon_slp> Raskall: tell that to metalsand
[09:09] <crimsun> metalsand: and /etc/wlan/wlancfg-pirates ?
[09:09] <dabaSlon_slp> :))
[09:09] <bob2> sour-monkey: 1.8GB is < 1/10th of that
[09:09] <IIIEars> dabaSlon - you are really nice to be so helpful. :)
[09:10] <sour-monkey> Yeah, I know.  I have lots of other things I'm gonna need to put on here though
[09:10] <IIIEars> G'nite! :)
[09:10] <dabaSlon_slp> like what?
[09:10] <dabaSlon_slp> lmao
[09:10] <dabaSlon_slp> man...
[09:10] <IIIEars> lol
[09:10] <dabaSlon_slp> :)))
[09:10] <pablo921> Raskall, more of us newbies to torture those who help us?
[09:10] <dabaSlon_slp> haha
[09:10] <dabaSlon_slp> awesome
[09:10] <dabaSlon_slp> nit
[09:10] <IIIEars> lol
[09:10] <crimsun> metalsand: or are you using /etc/wlancfg/wlancfg-DEFAULT ?
[09:11] <metalsand> http://pastebin.com/282531
[09:11] <chris_ubuntu> dabaSlon: I don't get it.  I can't tell which mssgs are for me.  This is not something I am going to be able to complete.  Thanks but this is not working.  I hate to say it makes me long for Microsoft giving me a case number at the beginnging of a paid call
[09:11] <metalsand> crimsun: I'm using wlancfg-pirates
[09:11] <metalsand> I deleted default
[09:11] <Raskall> pablo921: :) I have started an ubuntu support company. They'll call me and I'll bother you if I cant help them.
[09:11] <freewoody> Can somebody tell me how to make PostFix send mails using my IP Address
[09:12] <pablo921> Raskall, i'm just starting to learn.
[09:13] <crimsun> metalsand: are you using the pcmcia restart or the wlanctl-ng method?
[09:13] <IIIEars> chris_ubuntu - You learned a little and so did i. we don't have to learn everything all at once. a little rest can make it all a lot easier to do in the morning.
[09:13] <Raskall> pablo921: and it's not torture. We want as many ubuntu users as possible you know. And If we felt tortured we would just leave the channel.
[09:13] <dabaSlon_slp> IIIEars: well, you see, he cant get which messages I send him...
[09:14] <metalsand> crimsun: I have no idea
[09:14] <crimsun> metalsand: ...err?
[09:14] <revelater> how do i check on my hard drive partitions?
[09:14] <dabaSlon_slp> and, Im talking only to him, and only me and him are on the channel...except for crimsun and metalsand sometimes...
[09:14] <revelater> get a list of them?
[09:14] <pablo921> Raskall, it's just that there are normally 500 people in this room and maybe 10 that can and will help us newbies
[09:14] <jsgotangco> fdisk -l
[09:14] <metalsand> crimsun: How would i check which method I'm using :x
[09:14] <revelater> didn
[09:14] <crimsun> metalsand: ok, you're obviously not using the latter then
[09:15] <IIIEars> X-chat is highlighting all of my messages - would be a lot easier to avoid the questions i can't answer if it didn't - lol
[09:15] <dabaSlon_slp> revelater: fdisk -l /dev/hdx
[09:15] <revelater> didn't list anything
[09:15] <metalsand> crimsun: right
[09:15] <jsgotangco> sudo fdisk -l
[09:15] <crimsun> metalsand: please restart pcmcia and paste dmesg again please
[09:15] <revelater> jsgotangco: thanks, that did it
[09:15] <jsgotangco> :-)
[09:15] <dabaSlon_slp> excellent.
[09:16] <Raskall> hmm.. my pentium 4M is not very happy with vmware. :) the CPU gets really hot.
[09:16] <dabaSlon_slp> slp
[09:16] <revelater> jsgotangco: what is id f?
[09:17] <metalsand> http://pastebin.com/282533
[09:17] <revelater> k, this doesn't look right... :
[09:17] <revelater>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:17] <revelater> /dev/hda1   *           1      231589   116720824+  83  Linux
[09:17] <revelater> /dev/hda2          231590      232581      499968    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[09:17] <revelater> /dev/hda5          231590      232581      499936+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[09:17] <metalsand> The last couple of lines changed, crimsun
[09:17] <revelater> anyone drown itn that one? :P
[09:18] <eob84> HI
[09:18] <eob84> I have a quick question
[09:18] <eob84> does anyone know where you can get bootsplash debs for ubuntu?
[09:18] <revelater> ...
[09:18] <eob84> ha
[09:19] <revelater> what is bootsplash?
[09:19] <eob84> the binary for the kernal
[09:19] <eob84> oops sorry
[09:19] <revelater> do you use synaptic?
[09:19] <IIIEars> eob - google >> images >> splash screen - i got too many to use them all - too many is just enough. - lol
[09:20] <eob84> no splash screen
[09:20] <eob84> I need the actual program
[09:20] <eob84> bootsplash
[09:20] <revelater> i am outta here...
[09:20] <drunken> hi everyone...
[09:20] <eob84> the file on http://www.bootsplash.de/files does not work
[09:21] <crimsun> metalsand: double-check your wlancfg-pirates
[09:21] <metalsand> crimsun: for what?
[09:21] <crimsun> metalsand: any missing parameters
[09:21] <metalsand> crimsun: all i did was rename the file
[09:22] <crimsun> metalsand: you didn't tweak it to your own hardware?
[09:22] <metalsand> crimsun: when i went through it all seemed correct to my settings
[09:22] <drunken> is anyone using dc++ from linux?
[09:22] <drunken> for linux...
[09:23] <crimsun> metalsand: please double-check. Sorry, but it's nearly 3:30, and I need to be back here at work in less than five hours.
[09:23] <Kamping_in_doze> anyone come across this before? i crashed ubuntu, and reinstalled windows (without rebooting into ubuntu). when i tried to reinstall grub, it cant find core.img or somthing. anyone know this one?
[09:23] <metalsand> crimsun: I just double-checked, everything looks correct
[09:23] <metalsand> I have no WEP enabled, its set to DHCP
[09:23] <kakalto> does anyone have the transcode package, and could they put it up on a server for download for me? please?
[09:24] <kakalto> the debian-marillat repos don't work
[09:24] <pablo921>  kakalto:i'm waiting for it also.
[09:24] <crimsun> metalsand: ok. I'll be back in ~18 hrs
[09:24] <kakalto> I tried downloading the source from transcoding.org but the tar isn't valid
[09:25] <metalsand> crimsun: K. So we're done for the night?
[09:26] <pablo921> kakalto:i tied to install dvdrip but can't without transcode.
[09:26] <kakalto> hmm.
[09:26] <metalsand> crimsun: Thanks for looking over my code, I appriate it. G'night, get some rest.
[09:26] <kakalto> I tried to install transcode, but couldn't
[09:26] <metalsand> Morning, ivoks
[09:26] <ivoks> hello
[09:26] <metalsand> Guess what I'm back to trying?
[09:26] <metalsand> wlan-ng
[09:26] <metalsand> Yay :D
[09:27] <pablo921> kakalto:i guess marillat has been down for awhile
[09:27] <kakalto> yeh
[09:27] <kakalto> :(
[09:27] <pablo921> kakalto:patience
[09:28] <m> anyone know where the start menu is kept in gnome.. the file? ?
[09:28] <ivoks> metalsand great... that driver gave better results :)
[09:28] <kakalto> pablo921, patience is hard when sick and wanting to burn a video-dvd for a friend
[09:28] <pablo921> kakalto:unles you find somebody who has it
[09:28] <kakalto> that's what I was hoping for
[09:29] <metalsand> ivoks
[09:29] <metalsand> I just noticed something
[09:29] <metalsand> in dmesg
[09:30] <ivoks> ok
[09:30] <metalsand> p80211knetdev_hard_start_xmit: Tx attempt prior to association, frame dropped.
[09:30] <metalsand> It states that
[09:30] <Kaiser_milo> bbl. good luck ppl
[09:30] <ivoks> metalsand google
[09:30] <ivoks> metalsand copy paste that in google
[09:30] <metalsand>  Bit Rate:2 Mb/s   Tx-Power:2346 dBm
[09:30] <metalsand> and when I iwconfig
[09:30] <metalsand> it shows that
[09:30] <ivoks> metalsand as i said, your wifi works
[09:31] <metalsand> and that kind of tx-power is rediculous, thecards max is 23
[09:31] <ivoks> metalsand iwlist wlan0 scan
[09:31] <ivoks> metalsand what does it says?
[09:31] <metalsand> wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Function not implemented
[09:31] <ivoks> metalsand then eth2
[09:31] <ivoks> ah...
[09:31] <metalsand> I have no eth2
[09:32] <ivoks> ok
[09:32] <IIIEars> Foolish Ubuntu question #101 - how do i create a wallpaper like the default that looks like two layers?
[09:32] <metalsand> i have eth0 (what im connected to right now)
[09:32] <ivoks> i'm sleepy :(
[09:32] <ali4728> Newbie Needs Help! I have a (LinuxApacheMysqlPhp) web server on my comp/ubuntu, I want to send email [mail()]  by somepage.php but default confs doesnt seem to work! Any help?
[09:32] <pablo921> Seveas, i thought youw4ent to work.
[09:32] <ivoks> ali4728 mail()?
[09:33] <metalsand> lol
[09:33] <ivoks> ali4728 AFAIK, that doesn't work on lot of servers
[09:33] <bob2> ali4728: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix, configure it to be able to send mail
[09:33] <ivoks> ali4728 couse it is possible to send spam over that function
[09:34] <ivoks> metalsand i don't know... how do you know others managed to setup that card? any URL?
[09:34] <Seveas> pablo921, i am at work now :)
[09:35] <kakalto> Seveas, are you involved in the marillat repos?
[09:35] <Seveas> i am a scientific programmer, so it's not that much of a surprise that i have an internet connection at my work :)
[09:35] <pablo921> Seveas, you have a good day.
[09:35] <Seveas> kakalto, not at all
[09:35] <ivoks> i buyed canon 300D
[09:36] <Cybermagellan> hey what do you guys think of this for a Ubuntu webserver logo http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby.png ?
[09:36] <kakalto> Seveas, k, my bad
[09:36] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, not bad, but the font looks fuzzy
[09:36] <ivoks> lol
[09:36] <ivoks> my grandma could do that :)
[09:36] <Seveas> and the logo isn't scaled correctly
 is it ok if just type the command that u mentioned? What u mean by configure?
[09:37] <ivoks> Cybermagellan try again :)
[09:37] <Cybermagellan> Thanks ivoks...maybe your grandma would care to do it...
[09:37] <bob2> ali4728: yes, run the command I gave you
[09:37] <ivoks> Cybermagellan she wouldn't, and i wouldn't :)
[09:38] <ivoks> Cybermagellan make powerd by bigger, remove ubuntu and leave cicrcle
[09:38] <ivoks> circle
[09:38] <veritas> ivoks
[09:38] <veritas> It works!
[09:38] <veritas> lol
[09:38] <veritas> I CANNOT believe it
[09:38] <poningru> heh I am here too
[09:38] <ivoks> u dumb prick
[09:38] <veritas> bob2: did you hear that?
[09:38] <poningru> I stalk people here
[09:39] <veritas> ivoks: Why am I a dumb prick? lol
[09:39] <bob2> ivoks: language
[09:39] <ivoks> veritas can you see anybody else? :)
[09:39] <Seveas> ivoks, please don;t use that kind of language herre
[09:39] <ivoks> bob2 I have to...
[09:39] <ivoks> bob2 he was pooling my nose for days
[09:39] <ivoks> bob2 and now it works... :)
[09:39] <veritas> ivoks: No, I wasn't
[09:39] <veritas> I JUST got it to work
 It opened up a conf window should I simply clk OK?
[09:39] <paknaald> where can i find a good xorg.conf manual?
[09:40] <veritas> bob2: I think we should change the topic
[09:40] <IIIEars> 485 people in the room at least that many different opinions on your logo. - lol
[09:40] <bob2> paknaald: why do you want to modify it?
[09:40] <bob2> ali4728: in a terminal, yes
[09:40] <paknaald> well i have a radeon x600 and it won't get graphical
[09:40] <eob84> I am trying to remove a package from apt and I am getting errors
[09:40] <veritas> | metalsnd got his PCMCIA NIC working, everyone can procede to their daily schedule | Please don't use Breezy yet |
[09:40] <paknaald> so i install ubuntu in textmode and then try to configure xorg.conf
[09:40] <veritas> What do you say, bob2?
[09:40] <paknaald> so then in vesa it works, on one screen
[09:40] <bob2> eob84: you need to be more specific, (ie past the error to #flood)
[09:40] <paknaald> but i want gflrx on dual screen
[09:41] <paknaald> that's _hard_
[09:41] <bob2> daniels: radeon x600 should Just Work, right?
[09:41] <eob84> bo2, subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10
[09:41] <ivoks> veritas and, what was wrong?
[09:41] <veritas> Nothing is wrong
[09:41] <Cr1ck3t> wow didn't expect to see this many people here hehe
[09:41] <Seveas> cyphase, please don't spam here...
 I have options "int site, int with sm host, sat sys, Local only" which is good for me?
[09:41] <ivoks> veritas i know, but what was wrong with you...
[09:42] <daniels> bob2: in theory, yes.  in pracrice, it tends to lock up, apparently, but I haven't got any hardware. :\
[09:42] <bob2> eob84: no, the whole error, to #flood
[09:42] <Cr1ck3t> hello everyone, don't need help just thought I would check out the room.
[09:42] <bob2> cyphase: please turn that off
[09:42] <eob84> what? join another chanel?
[09:42] <cyphase> Seveas, if thats spam, then i don't know why im the only one your telling to stop spamming
[09:42] <bob2> eob84: yes
[09:42] <bob2> ali4728: do you have a smarthost?
[09:42] <Burgundavia> cyphase, that is spam
[09:42] <Seveas> cyphase, because no one else does that perhaps
[09:42] <ali4728> nope
 no
[09:43] <veritas> I'm so freaking excited right now
[09:43] <veritas> My card works.
[09:43] <cyphase> Burgundavia, Seveas, what qualifies as spam in your opinion
[09:43] <paknaald> bob2: does 'vesa'-mode even support dual screen?
[09:43] <bob2> paknaald: I don't know
[09:43] <Burgundavia> cyphase, the channel is already very busy. Anything that is offtopic is spam
[09:43] <Cr1ck3t> cyphase that is considered spam in help rooms just turn it off in here its not a big deal...
[09:43] <bob2> ali4728: then just internet host, I guess
[09:43] <ivoks> veritas it's good feeling when you get something to work on linux, isn't it?
 let me try
[09:44] <ivoks> veritas what's even better, it's great feeling when you realize that you learned something along the way...
[09:44] <ivoks> veritas doesn't that make you smile?
[09:44] <cyphase> Burgundavia, Seveas, are you telling me that everything else in here is on topic?
[09:44] <cyphase> because i highly doubt it
[09:44] <Burgundavia> cyphase, mostly yes
[09:44] <veritas> ivoks: I let out a little grin :P
[09:44] <cyphase> right
[09:44] <veritas> ivoks: I wouldn't say I learned a little
[09:44] <Seveas> cyphase, cut it out. We *try* to stay on topic
[09:44] <cyphase> ;)
[09:44] <bob2> cyphase: automatic crap is off-topic
[09:44] <Burgundavia> cyphase, what you are listening to has little to do with linux, let alone ubuntu
[09:44] <cyphase> bob2, automatic?
[09:45] <veritas> I'd say 95% of my linux knowledge was learned because of this freaking card :P
[09:45] <bob2> cyphase: public away messages will be told to shut it off, too
[09:45] <cyphase> lol
[09:45] <veritas> bob2: are you excited for me?
[09:45] <Seveas> veritas, you better watch out
[09:45] <Seveas> veritas, or you'll become a linux-geek ;)
[09:45] <veritas> Seveas: How come?
[09:46] <veritas> Seveas: I'm not scared :P
[09:46] <Seveas> well, welcome aboard then :)
[09:46] <cyphase> ;)
[09:46] <veritas> bleh
[09:46] <veritas> what's the command to ghost
[09:46] <veritas> I can't get metalsand
[09:46] <Cr1ck3t>  /ns ghost nick password
[09:47] <Seveas> or /msg nickserv ghost nick passord
[09:49] <veritas> What happened to the chat :x
[09:49] <Seveas> it became silent
[09:49] <Seveas> no problems anymore, woohoo :)
[09:49] <paknaald> isn't their anybody a xorg.conf expert? ;)
[09:50] <veritas> It's because I fixed my problem :P
[09:50] <veritas> bleh
[09:50] <Seveas> ik niet iig paknaald, sorry :)
[09:50] <paknaald> you've a x600 too?
[09:50] <veritas> i can't ghost metalsand because it's not registered
[09:50] <Cr1ck3t> hehe veritas thats usually the case.
[09:51] <ivoks> lol
[09:51] <Seveas> there ya go
[09:51] <Seveas> metalsand, if it happens again, try /ping metalsand
[09:51] <Seveas> it will help the server noticing that that nick is dead
[09:52] <Seveas> i just pinged him and bang, he is gone
[09:52] <Cybermagellan> Any better now: http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby.png
[09:52] <metalsand> Ah, good call. :D
[09:52] <metalsand> Sweet - my next problem
[09:52] <Seveas> scaling is ok
[09:52] <Cybermagellan> I locked it this time
[09:52] <Seveas> "ubuntu" looks crappy so close to the logo
[09:52] <Seveas> and powered by is too small
[09:52] <metalsand> FATAL: Unable to open cisco control file '/proc/driver/aironet/eth0/Config' 2:No such file or directory
[09:52] <Cybermagellan> I can't think of anywhere else to put it
[09:52] <Seveas> next to the logo is better
[09:53] <Seveas> as in powered by (LOGO) Ubuntu
[09:53] <pablo921> Cybermagellan: look ok to me
[09:53] <ivoks> Seveas eth0?
[09:53] <ivoks> sorry
[09:53] <ivoks> metalsand eth0? isn't your wlan on wlan0?
[09:53] <metalsand> kismet is trying to run off of eth0, not wlan0 it seems
[09:53] <ivoks> metalsand configure kismet
[09:53] <ivoks> bye all
[09:53] <metalsand> Yeah, I've never bothered trying to run it since my card never worked
[09:54] <Q_Continuum> metalsand, whenever I've had that happen (I'm using ndiswrapper) it's because i need todo another modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:54] <Q_Continuum> which fixes it
[09:54] <bob2> metalsand: let me guess, kismet?
[09:54] <laji> hi
[09:54] <sour-monkey> Gidday
[09:54] <laji> anyone had experiences with webcams ?
[09:55] <metalsand> bob2: Yes
[09:55] <laji> i just installled ubuntu.. and it drives me crazy
[09:55] <bob2> metalsand: you need to configure it
[09:55] <bob2> metalsand: ie tell it what sort of card you have
[09:55] <laji> it recognizes the webcam.. but i can't see it
[09:56] <kakalto> laji, not meaning to be unfriendly, but have you tried google?
[09:56] <metalsand> bob2: where are the config files? I'm in the readme right now, but it'd be nice just to go right to them :P
[09:56] <laji> it is saying that is a v4l2 device, the module is loaded..
[09:56] <laji> yes...
 Do I need to configure anything with PHP Postfix configured now!
[09:56] <laji> i tried.
[09:56] <jackass> What program would i use instead of Deamon Tools, on linux??! (neeb)
[09:56] <bob2> metalsand: /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[09:56] <Seveas> jackass, mount :)
[09:56] <metalsand> bob2: thanks :)
[09:56] <bob2> metalsand: all config files for non-user thingfgs are in /etc
[09:56] <jackass> :S
[09:57] <Seveas> jackass, but only for .iso files
[09:57] <fsapo> bob2, i said that my dvd wasnt going to work, ive found this: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Burning_Video_DVDs_in_Linux.html
[09:57] <bob2> ali4728: you need to make sure postfix is actually working
[09:57] <Seveas> no idea about other formats
[09:57] <bob2> ali4728: ssh in and see if "mail -stest some@email.com" and make sure it turn up
[09:57] <fsapo> bob2, i think that if the player can read dvd-r midia it should work
[09:57] <bob2> fsapo: ok
[09:57] <jackass> but what program for .bin files then? and wher can i find "mount"
 ssh in?
[09:59] <jackass> but what program for .bin files then? and wher can i find "mount"
[09:59] <Cybermagellan> Seveas, something like http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby1.png
[09:59] <Cybermagellan> ?
[10:00] <bob2> ali4728: or however you normally connect to it
[10:00] <bob2> jackass: you can't mount .bin files
[10:00] <pablo921> Cybermagellan:, i think it looks fine
[10:00] <bob2> jackass: use bchunk to convert it to a useful format
[10:00] <jackass> :( okey
[10:00] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, indeed, but the font is awfully small compared to the logo size imho
[10:00] <jackass> wheres bchunk? where can i find it.
[10:00] <Cybermagellan> Well I was going to suggest that this be at the bottom of a webpage...so I don't wanna make it too large....nor too small
[10:01] <{Cricket}> jackass google for it
[10:01] <Cybermagellan> Like the powered by apache logo
[10:01] <bob2> jackass: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, enable universe
[10:01] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, i suggest you shrink the logo a bit then
[10:01] <Cybermagellan> Yeah I was thinking that too
[10:02] <jackass> thanks
[10:02] <jackass> i got it now
[10:03] <metalsand> What should I list as my super user ID? Do I tell kismet it's root?
[10:03] <metalsand> or veritas, if that's my regular ubuntu login
[10:03] <{Cricket}> root
[10:03] <bob2> just leave it
[10:03] <bob2> all you need to change is the driver
[10:05] <metalsand> bob2: How do I tell the name of the source?
[10:06] <bob2> metalsand: presumably prism2source
[10:07] <metalsand> Then my cardtype must be wrong :/
[10:07] <jackass> how do i change a .fin file to .iso file... i got bchunk and that but how?
[10:07] <jackass> how do i change a .bin file to .iso file... i got bchunk and that but how?
[10:08] <Seveas> jackass, read the documentation....
[10:08] <bob2> jackass: dude a) don't repeat, it's obnoxious, b) did you read the documentation that came with it?
[10:09] <pshend> hi all. i've installed the gPerfection icon theme, but none of my gtk controls are using it - like ok buttons are still using the old icons etc, and nautilus back/fwd buttons dont use this theme
[10:09] <jackass> i wrote wrong from the start changes fin - bin sry im reading but i don't understand
[10:09] <pshend> any ideas how i fix it? i've installed the theme for root, and when i run synaptic, root DOES use the gPerfection icons
[10:10] <bob2> jackass: run "man bchunk" in a terminal, and read it
[10:10] <Cybermagellan> Seveas, so maybe something like this? http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby2.png
[10:10] <bob2> pshend: er, don't install it for root then
[10:10] <jackass> no manual post for bchunk:S!
[10:10] <pshend> bob2, the root install is just in /root/.icons, so it shouldn't interfere with /home/user/.icons, should it?
[10:11] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, comes close, but if you want to put it at the bottom of a page, you should use the previous image with the logo as big as in this image, so that the images width is bigger than its height
[10:11] <bob2> jackass: then you didn't install it
[10:11] <bob2> jackass: read the page again and try again
[10:11] <jackass> how to install... Im really a neeb....
[10:11] <bob2> jackass: dude, read the page I gave you
[10:12] <bob2> jackass: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:12] <bob2> pshend: you installed it as root and are complaining that it doesn't work for your regular user, right?
[10:12] <Cybermagellan> Seveas, ok so kinda like a banner then
[10:12] <pshend> bob2, no. sorry, i didn't explain that too well.
[10:13] <pshend> bob2, i installed it as a user with the theme manager, then i installed it  for root by sudu su'ing, then unpacking the theme into root/.icons - so there shouldn't be a permissions prob
[10:13] <jackass> thx alot
[10:13] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, yeah, sort of
[10:14] <Cybermagellan> Kinda like.. http://68.231.152.140:8080/apache2-default/poweredby3.png
[10:14] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, that's the best one so far :)
[10:15] <Cybermagellan> Ok, well it's 1:30 in the am so I am going to bed now
[10:15] <Cybermagellan> night all
 Postfix working ( I reboot the comp.) but could not send mail yet, any idea?
[10:15] <Seveas> but i would make the the height of the word "ubuntu" about 3/4 as heigh as the logo and center it vertically
[10:15] <Seveas> g'night!
[10:16] <fsapo> Seveas, night!
[10:16] <bob2> ali4728: then postfix isn't working
[10:16] <bob2> ali4728: and there was no need to reboot it
[10:16] <Seveas> fsapo, that was to Cybermagellan it's 10:16am here :)
 shal I try over again?
[10:17] <bob2> ali4728: what happened when you ran the command I gave you?
 it opend conf GUI end I went through steps!
[10:18] <bob2> ali4728: no
[10:18] <bob2> 17:57:19 @         bob2 | ali4728: ssh in and see if "mail -stest some@email.com" and make sure it turn up
[10:19] <bob2> ali4728: send that test email
[10:20] <pshend> anyone know if unpacking a file which gives timestamp errors could cause a problem? (it's a theme)
I am trying to send this mail through a web page you aware of that righT?
[10:20] <bob2> ali4728: dude
[10:20] <bob2> ali4728: I can't help you if you ignore me
you fill a form and click OK to send!
[10:21] <bob2> ali4728: you need to actually run the command I gave you
[10:21] <bob2> ali4728: no, ignore the webt
 ok hold on
[10:24] <jackass> where can i find synaptic package manager???
[10:24] <mole_> can anyone help walk me through synchronising my USB Palm device?  I've tried the udev configuration on ubuntuguide.org, but it only works for the initial sync.
[10:25] <bob2> jackass: dude, chill
[10:25] <bob2> jackass: and use some initiative.
[10:25] <jsgotangco> PDA support :-(
I run this command "mail -stest some@email.com" no response from bash!
[10:25] <jackass> i have been loocking every where
[10:25] <bob2> jackass: system -> administration -> package manager
[10:25] <mole_> So it doesn't work too well, then?
[10:25] <cbruggeman> hi all
[10:25] <jackass> OMG im such a LOSER
[10:25] <bob2> ali4728: so.  you did actually substitute in an email address of your own in there, right?
[10:25] <NicP> lol
[10:25] <cbruggeman> i have a big prob aswell
[10:26] <jsgotangco> mole_, its on high priority at the moment
[10:26] <jsgotangco> but we'll need testers on certain devices
[10:26] <cbruggeman> anybody now spip ? and have ever try to put it on ubuntu ?
[10:26] <Seveas> jackass, no, just a newbie, but relax, we all had to go through this :)
[10:26] <bob2> cbruggeman: you need to ask a more specific question
[10:26] <mole_> jsgotangco: happy to try and help if I can.  I have a Palm Tungsten T, m515 and Palm Vx.
[10:27] <cbruggeman> ok bob2
[10:27] <cbruggeman> my problem is juste than i didn't arrive to install spip
 it hangs..
[10:27] <jsgotangco> mole_, that's great, refer to http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/PDASupport
[10:27] <cbruggeman> i did an apt-get install apache , mysql and php4
[10:27] <bob2> ali4728: you didn't answer my question
[10:28] <jsgotangco> the key is supporting certain models for now
 yes I did
[10:28] <bob2> ali4728: where?
[10:28] <bob2> 18:25:50 @         bob2 | ali4728: so.  you did actually substitute in an email address of your own in there, right?
 here actual thing4728@yahoo.com
[10:29] <mole_> jsgotangco: I can get the bluetooth sync working using pilot-link and the guide at howto.pilot-link.org/bluesync
[10:29] <bob2> good
[10:29] <bob2> ali4728: now run: echo this is a test email | mail -s test thing4728@yahoo.com
 here actual thing  # mail -stest ali4728@yahoo.com
[10:29] <mole_> It just seems to be a problem with gnome-pilot
[10:29] <mole_> But I'm sure you probably know that already
[10:30] <jsgotangco> mole_, that's great can you email me the details of it at jgotangco@gmail.com so I can test it out and update the wiki at the same time contact you thanks
[10:30] <bob2> er
[10:30] <mole_> jsgotango: will do
[10:30] <bob2> it might be better to file a bug
[10:30] <bob2> unless jsgotangco is like the gnome-pilot author
[10:31] <jsgotangco> yeah file a bug
 I run it "echo this is a test email | mail -s test ali4728@yahoo.com"
[10:31] <bob2> ali4728: good
[10:31] <bob2> ali4728: now go and see if the email arrived
 No mail
[10:32] <mole_> I'll have to look at the gnome-pilot mailing list first...
[10:33] <bob2> ali4728: so, open up your postfix log
ok
 is it in /etc/postfix log file?
[10:34] <bob2> no
 where
[10:34] <bob2> I told you before, /var/log/mail.log
ok
[10:35] <bunoc> hello. i just installed hoary. anybody pls tell me how to change the screen solution?
[10:35] <bunoc> i am in gnome now
[10:35] <REdz> ye its the menu man
[10:35] <REdz> with the preferences
[10:36] <laji> the kernel delivered with the default ubuntu instalation does support video4linux?
[10:36] <bunoc> hmm.... only 640x408 available. how to choose better solution?
[10:36] <REdz> that supports wat is setup, i dont know how to change it for x.org
[10:36] <bunoc> why hoary only detects 640x480 on my screen?
[10:37] <helloyo> how do i use an external dvd driver with ubuntu? (my bro is being a dick about how windows installed it automatically)
[10:37] <REdz> its prob a safe default bunoc
[10:37] <bunoc> REdz: yes, but i cannot work with this solution :(
[10:37] <REdz> hegemony, is it a usb burner
 here is LOG http://pastebin.com/282554
[10:37] <REdz> bunoc, ull have to read up on x.org bunoc i have only just started usn it
[10:39] <lewwy> hello fellow ubuntu chumps
[10:39] <helloyo> does anyone know how to setup an external dvd burner?
[10:39] <lewwy> can somebody reccomend a good programming language for linux/ubuntu?
[10:39] <hhurtta> c++/c
[10:39] <jsgotangco> python?
[10:39] <REdz> helloyo, is it a usb or firewire one
[10:39] <hhurtta> bash?
[10:39] <lewwy> thats easy
[10:39] <REdz> c/ c++
[10:39] <lewwy> preferably something like visual basic
[10:39] <lewwy> bash?
[10:39] <lewwy> you can program for bash?
[10:39] <REdz> mono
[10:40] <helloyo> REdz, usb
[10:40] <hhurtta> lewwy: lightly
[10:40] <REdz> bash is shell
[10:40] <lewwy> isnt C/C++ coding like, REALLY hard?
[10:40] <jsgotangco> nothing is hard if you persevere
[10:40] <lewwy> lightly
[10:40] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[10:40] <lewwy> hehe
[10:40] <REdz> helloyo, well u have to have usb setup in the kernel and that and basically linux ie ubuntu or debian treats it as a scsi drive
[10:40] <St0n3-C0l> In you take interested in learning then it's not hard
[10:41] <helloyo> REDz, oh ok, so how do i go about burning? want to show my brother it can be done relatively easily
 May 11 01:35:42 ubuntu postfix/smtp[4306] : connect to mx3.mail.yahoo.com[64.156.215.6] : Connection timed out (port 25)
[10:41] <lewwy> the idea of programming in something where i can't exactly see what i'm doing scares me
[10:41] <REdz> helloyo, k3b supports it 2 secs
[10:41] <lewwy> i like the vb way of doing doings
[10:41] <lewwy> VISUAL basic
[10:41] <Q_Continuum> ewwwww
[10:41] <Q_Continuum> ewwwww
[10:41] <REdz> helloyo, 3 secs
[10:41] <jsgotangco> thats not programming, that's designing an interface most of the time
[10:41] <hhurtta> lewwy: even in vb you cant see the logic behind the gui
[10:41] <REdz> mono!
[10:41] <helloyo> REdz, what do you mean? so i just need k3b?
 I dont have to open port 25 do I?
[10:42] <REdz> hegemony, ye install k3b, i use it alot, u can get nero also
[10:42] <lewwy> yeh
[10:42] <lewwy> the overheads are annyoing too
[10:43] <hhurtta> just grab a basic c/c++ tutorial and start learning
[10:43] <REdz> helloyo, http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html is a good start especialy the mass storage section
[10:43] <REdz> helloyo, leme find the programs
[10:43] <lewwy> i shall port halo to ubuntu!
[10:43] <helloyo> REdz, thanks
[10:43] <hhurtta> lewwy: sure you are...
[10:43] <lewwy> hehe
[10:44] <lewwy> well can anyone suggest a good tutorial for C?
[10:44] <lewwy> or C++?
[10:44] <hhurtta> try google
[10:44] <lewwy> i sorta thought microsoft owns C++ and C seems more standard
[10:44] <REdz> helloyo, dvd+rw-tools  for one
[10:44] <hhurtta> it usually knows these things best
[10:44] <lewwy> one of these days i'd like to program for gba
[10:44] <helloyo> REdz, yeah, i have that, just tried gnomebaker, but that didn't detect the drive
[10:44] <metalsand> ping google.com
[10:44] <lewwy> man, i love ubuntu without the stupid font AA
[10:44] <lewwy> it kicks ass
[10:44] <metalsand> oops :x
[10:44] <lewwy> i can actually see what im doing
[10:45] <REdz> helloyo, once ur burner is setup and u can mount and unmount it as a cdrom drive
[10:45] <DarthV4der> hi
[10:45] <REdz> then just use k3b with ur dvd tools
[10:45] <helloyo> REdz, what do i set it up in?
[10:45] <REdz> helloyo, make sure u can access it first
[10:45] <REdz> lol helloyo read those websites i pasted
[10:45] <lewwy> i also wub cedega
[10:45] <helloyo> REdz, oh ok, sorry
[10:46] <REdz> helloyo, it explains about usb , basically kernel support , and if u have warty or hoary u wont have to edit files like /etc/fstab
[10:46] <REdz> helloyo, check in /etc/fstab to see if the system made an entry for it also and in dmesg
[10:47] <geoffroy_> hello dudes
[10:48] <Seveas> hi
[10:48] <REdz> helloyo, dvdrtools udftools dvdplusrw, just do sudo apt-cache search dvd| more and have a loook
[10:48] <geoffroy_> I just installed 5.04
[10:48] <Seveas> geoffroy_, welcome aboard the Ubuntu ship then :)
[10:49] <Daehlie> 5.04!@!@ You just said our word of the day!@!
[10:49] <geoffroy_> thank you
[10:49] <Daehlie> ding ding ding
[10:49] <geoffroy_> but I was on 4.10 before
[10:49] <helloyo> REdz, thanks a lot
[10:49] <Seveas> :)
[10:49] <Seveas> well, welcome on the hoary ship ;)
[10:49] <geoffroy_> and i don't understand why the system is asking me a password for changing configuration etc...
[10:49] <helloyo> REdz, just trying to get my brother to stop being a dick about windows detecting it straight away
[10:49] <geoffroy_> is it not supposed to be the superuser pass ?
[10:49] <Seveas> geoffroy_, no
[10:49] <Seveas> it needs your password since ubuntu uses sudo
[10:50] <geoffroy_> oh my god, I missed something
[10:50] <eruin> geoffroy_: you _are_ the superuser, effectively speaking
[10:50] <Seveas> geoffroy_, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:50] <Seveas> that'll explain a lot :)
[10:50] <geoffroy_> ok thanks, I was searching this page
[10:50] <REdz> helloyo, ye for sure its not very hard
[10:51] <lewwy> heh
[10:51] <lewwy> helloyo: just tell him if he uses windows hes a communist
[10:51] <Seveas> neh
[10:51] <webmind> does anyone know if ubuntu/x.org has DRI support for the new or any ATI chipsets on the amd64 platform ?
[10:51] <Seveas> more like a capitalist
[10:52] <lewwy> hey, did anyone here see microsofts attempts to take down linux?
[10:52] <lewwy> by saying it costs more etc etc?
[10:52] <daniels> webmind: define 'new'
[10:52] <Seveas> lewwy, they are right though in some cases
[10:53] <REdz> lewwy, wats new
[10:53] <REdz> they do it all the time
[10:53] <helloyo> lewwy, he thinks that it takes ages for me to do anything, like add a new printer (easy as hell in ubuntu), but thats cos i'm constantly in a broken state on purpose
[10:53] <Seveas> lewwy, they just forget to mention the "in some cases" part
[10:53] <daniels> webmind: it supports up to 9200 out of the box, and we have the proprietary driver packaged, which supports all of them
[10:53] <lewwy> hehe
[10:53] <lewwy> thats the way to go helloyo
[10:53] <webmind> daniels, 9250, 9550 or the 9600 ?
[10:53] <lewwy> my bro gets on my nerves sometimes, but if i dont help him, i dont get my adsl fix :(
[10:54] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[10:54] <daniels> webmind: supports 9250 out of the box, 9550 and 9600 are supported by the proprietary driver
[10:54] <lewwy> argh this is getting on my nerves.  I installed farcry under windows and then gave the cd's back to my friend
[10:55] <lewwy> and now i cant play it! :'(
[10:55] <lewwy> (cedega)
[10:55] <webmind> daniels, ok
[10:55] <geoffroy_> okay, I missed something during the installation
[10:55] <webmind> daniels, also on the amd64 then ?
[10:55] <helloyo> REdz, i have been reading that site, and i still can't get anything happening
[10:55] <geoffroy_> because my first user is not in the sudoers
[10:55] <daniels> webmind: yeah
[10:55] <webmind> cool :)
[10:55] <REdz> ledi, ye u prob need no cd crack
[10:55] <REdz> lewwy, ye u prob need no cd crack
[10:56] <daniels> it would probably also work better if you actually bought the game
[10:56] <geoffroy_> Should I have to reinstall ? or is there any solution without running installation again
[10:56] <REdz> helloyo, did u check /etc/fstab and dmesg
[10:56] <Seveas> geoffroy_, this has changed in hoary
[10:56] <lewwy> its already cracked REdz
[10:56] <geoffroy_> oh ?
[10:56] <REdz> and is ur usb working helloyo
[10:56] <REdz> lewwy, ok
[10:56] <lewwy> i just run it, and it tries to init, and then dies
[10:56] <helloyo> REdz, dmesg says that it found a removable scsi disk sda at scsi0
[10:57] <lewwy> could the fact that im running it on RO filesystem affect it?
[10:57] <REdz> helloyo, thats a good thing, wat about fstab
[10:57] <helloyo> doesn't say anything about it
[10:57] <REdz> lewwy, ye i read up on that at some places for diablo2
[10:57] <REdz> not sure if its related
[10:58] <lewwy> mmm
[10:58] <lewwy> is captive-ntfs supposed to support r/w
[10:58] <helloyo> REdz, no entry for it in fstab
[10:58] <REdz> helloyo, well ye u prob need that in there first
[10:59] <REdz> and install some of those tools and start up k3b after that
[10:59] <geoffroy_> Can't I had my first user to sudoers ?
[11:00] <Taliesin`> your first user (the one you create on install) is in sudoers
[11:00] <geoffroy_> that is the problem
[11:00] <Taliesin`> u dont want it in sudoers?
[11:00] <geoffroy_> My first user, the one I created during install doesnt appear in sudoers file
[11:01] <Taliesin`> oh buggery
[11:01] <geoffroy_> Sorry, user geoffroy may not run sudo on
[11:01] <lewwy> hey is there anyway i can possibly force an unmount of a cd drive?
[11:01] <lewwy> heh
[11:01] <lewwy> good one jeff
[11:01] <Taliesin`> umount -f /mnt/cdrom0
[11:01] <Taliesin`> -f forces
[11:01] <Taliesin`> from the terminal ofcourse
[11:02] <lewwy> argh linux seems to pussy foot around the fact of unmounting cd drives
[11:02] <lewwy> if its mounted and semi in use
[11:02] <lewwy> you cant eject it
[11:02] <Taliesin`> i never seem to have a problem
[11:02] <lewwy> why can windows do this so easily?
[11:03] <lewwy> no, im in the middle of a raven shield install
[11:03] <lewwy> i ran cedega Setup.exe
[11:03] <geoffroy_> Could you paste your file /etc/sudoers please ?
[11:03] <Taliesin`> windows doesnt take control of the cdrom
[11:03] <Taliesin`> linux appears to take control of it at a more hardware level
[11:03] <lewwy> but...whats the benefit of that?
[11:03] <Taliesin`> nfi, it just works for me
[11:03] <lewwy> and why can't i just say "i really need that CD, emergency eject"
[11:03] <Taliesin`> the only rare case i use umount -f is when i incorrectly burn a CD
[11:03] <lewwy> yeh
[11:04] <lewwy> but i got an install running off the CD
[11:04] <lewwy> and it wont take it
[11:06] <geoffroy_> Ok I think that it works
[11:06] <geoffroy_> how can i config the pass for sudo ?
[11:06] <geoffroy_> cuz he doesn't ask me the password
[11:06] <geoffroy_> if anyone could paste his file /etc/sudoers, I think it would help me
[11:07] <Burgundavia> geoffroy_, what do you mean? not asking for password?
[11:07] <Burgundavia> have you entered it within the last 15 minutes?
[11:07] <geoffroy_> my first user wasn't in sudoers file
[11:07] <geoffroy_> so i wrote (with visudo) geoffroy ALL=(ALL)  ALL
[11:07] <geoffroy_> so the pass isnt needed
[11:07] <geoffroy_> as for root account.
[11:08] <geoffroy_> I just want that when i want to change something in system configuration or anything else, it asks me a password
[11:11] <runge> hi. I am having lots of problems with the screen resulution in ubuntu horay
[11:13] <runge> it is stuck at 800x600 I think. doesent help to change xorg.config. the xserver says that it will go to default resulution cause something cant handle hsync. xorgconfig dident help. xorgcfg dident show any apps, just started with background and nothing else
[11:13] <dabaSlon_slp> runge, why horray;)
[11:13] <runge> :)
[11:13] <dabaSlon_slp> you changed teh resolution in conf?
[11:14] <daniels> runge: do you have an intel desktop chipset?
[11:14] <runge> yes, the change dident help
[11:14] <geoffroy_> so, nobody wants to paste /etc/sudoers here ? :<
[11:14] <runge> daniels, i810
[11:14] <geoffroy_> it would help me, i think
[11:14] <daniels> runge: it's a known bug in the intel driver, will be fixed this week
[11:14] <daniels> and probably make it into hoary-updates at some stage
[11:14] <runge> ah!
[11:15] <Razor-X> hmmmm, anyone here use a trackball?
[11:15] <runge> thanks, any way for me to monitor the development fo the bug?
[11:15] <Razor-X> dabaSlon_slp: wow, you're up this late?
[11:15] <lewwy> hey can i force cedega to release a cd-drive?
[11:15] <lewwy> so i can unmount it?
[11:16] <runge> lewwy, dont know, but you might be able to use the command "sudo eject"
[11:16] <lewwy> nah
[11:16] <lewwy> that ejects the bottom drive
[11:16] <lewwy> i want to eject hdd, not hdc
[11:17] <dabaSlon_slp> yup.half slp...
[11:17] <dabaSlon_slp> ;)
[11:17] <Razor-X> heh
[11:17] <runge> lewwy, sudo eject /dev/hdd
[11:17] <lewwy> because, raven shield is using the top cd drive for installing
[11:17] <Razor-X> i'm doing Romeo and Juliet
[11:17] <lewwy> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:17] <Razor-X> when I go to college with math.... I won't have to do these stupid English essays >_<
[11:18] <Razor-X> lewwy: not sure, but, isn't there a --force command in umount?
[11:18] <kakalto> why are all the source downloads on transcoding.org broken?!
[11:18] <Razor-X> check the man out
[11:18] <kakalto> not sure about the cvs tho
[11:18] <yahalom> when i click logout, my gnome-sessions doesnt log out, any ideas?
[11:22] <Q_Continuum> methinks netsplit.
[11:23] <Q_Continuum> or just no talk.
[11:23] <yahalom> i'm here
[11:23] <Razor-X> both
[11:23] <yahalom> Q_Continuum, then again its like 2am in the west coas
[11:24] <Razor-X> DarthV4der: dude, Padme dies because of you!
[11:25] <DarthV4der> why do you say that?
[11:25] <runge> Razor-X, we will always have Closer
[11:26] <webmind> hmm, does anyone know if the Epson CX3650 is going to work out of the box ?
[11:26] <DarthV4der> Epson (craps???)
[11:27] <yahalom> i get the following error on log in: Error activating XKB configuration.
[11:27] <yahalom> anyone know what that is?
[11:27] <Seveas> yahalom, is taht the complete error?
[11:28] <webmind> DarthV4der, uhm.. epson usually has very good support in linux ?
[11:29] <yahalom> Seveas, can i paste the complete error?
[11:29] <Seveas> yahalom, use ubuntu.pastebin.com for that
[11:29] <yahalom> Seveas, ok
[11:29] <gaurav> runge: is ur monitor resloution prob solved?/
[11:30] <yahalom> Seveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/282574
[11:30] <gaurav> ?/
[11:31] <Seveas> yahalom, no messages before that?
[11:31] <yahalom> Seveas, no
[11:31] <St0n3-C0l> hey
[11:31] <yahalom> Seveas, maybe its cos i chose to use xorg.conf settings instead of gnome settings?
[11:32] <St0n3-C0l> gaim 1.3.0 is in backports ??
[11:33] <yahalom> Seveas, no idea?
[11:34] <DarthV4der> s/good/bad/
[11:37] <geoffroy_> hey.
[11:37] <geoffroy_> does anyone have a i560 (canon) installed on ubuntu ?
[11:37] <geoffroy_> it seems like without turboprint drivers, it won't work
[11:43] <geoffroy_> with hoary, I can't manage anymore network interfaces ?
[11:44] <geoffroy_> there was a small manager for interface configuration, where we could chose profiles for interfaces, it doesn't exist anymore ?
[11:44] <Burgundavia> geoffroy_, it is there
[11:45] <geoffroy_> oh ?
[11:45] <Burgundavia> system-->admin-->networking
[11:45] <geoffroy_> okay, but profiles have disapeared no ?
[11:45] <Burgundavia> no idea
[11:47] <Crasp> lo
[11:47] <DarthV4der> ol
[11:47] <Crasp> i'm trying to build suphp using dpkg-buildpackage, but now i want it to use apache2 instead of apache1, how do i do that?
[11:50] <geoffroy_> does anyone have a atheros wifi device ?
[11:51] <corvix> anyone know about intel 855gm graphics chip and dri?
[11:51] <corvix> im getting 4 kBytes additional video memory is required to enable DRI  in the xorg log
[11:52] <cyphase> corvix, add a 4kb memory stick then
[11:52] <cyphase> ;)
[11:52] <DarthV4der> ;)
[11:52] <geoffroy_> atheros chipset only works with madwifi drivers ?
[11:53] <corvix> LOL
[11:53] <corvix> its a shared mem system
[11:53] <mjr> geoffroy_, yes
[11:54] <mjr> geoffroy_, and those contain a nonfree component and are included in linux-modules-restricted
[11:54] <corvix> any way of freeing up some more video memory? deactivating features or so?
[11:54] <DarthV4der> mine is not
[11:54] <Seveas> linux-restricted-modules that is
[11:54] <mjr> corvix, perhaps try to use software mouse cursor instead of hardware cursor?
[11:54] <johnnybe1ak> hey guys is there a gtk2 app for editing id3 tags
[11:54] <corvix> @darth ... you got 855gm runnig with dri in xorg?  but not shared?
[11:54] <Shorty^> does ubuntu have mplayer ?
[11:54] <corvix> thmmm ... option?
[11:55] <DarthV4der> @_@
[11:55] <DarthV4der> wtf question
[11:55] <geoffroy_> ok mjr
[11:55] <geoffroy_> thanks
[11:55] <johnnybe1ak> Shorty: yeah
[11:57] <geoffroy_> and does anyone know how to make a canon i560 working on unbuntu withou turboprint drivers ?
[11:58] <Seveas> Shorty^, yes, in multiverse
[11:59] <Shorty^> ah, ok :P
[11:59] <Shorty^> anyone got a sources.list line for it?
[11:59] <wdh> for multiverse?
[11:59] <wdh> check the wiki\
[12:00] <Seveas> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[12:00] <wdh> Shorty^, or just add 'multiverse' to the line where 'main restricted' is already listed
[12:01] <wdh> and possibly 'universe' too
[12:12] <andreu_> hi. is someone there?
[12:13] <Seveas> no
[12:13] <Seveas> ;)
[12:13] <Fator_Dee> this channel is completely empty and we are only illusions
[12:13] <Seveas> there is no spoon
[12:13] <Fator_Dee> but there is a fork!
[12:13] <Seveas> andreu_, hi :) you have a question?
[12:14] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, you mean a fork()
[12:14] <Fator_Dee> ;-)
[12:15] <andreu_> oh, what interessant conversation with illusions.
[12:15] <andreu_> I feel like a medium...  OOmmmmmhhh!!!!
[12:15] <Seveas> i'm forking all over the place (MPI programming)
[12:16] <rizla_> hi
[12:16] <Seveas> hello
[12:17] <rizla_> why does ubuntu look in english language while i've installed language-package-it?
[12:17] <Seveas> rizla, you still need to tell it to use neglish
[12:17] <Seveas> run dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:17] <rizla_> i'm going to try..
[12:18] <geoffroy_> do you know how can I configure more options for wifi ?
[12:18] <andreu_> do you know if catalan language is available in ubuntu?
[12:18] <geoffroy_> like WPA...
[12:18] <geoffroy_> TKIP..
[12:19] <Seveas> geoffroy_, WPA is difficult to do
[12:19] <Seveas> but i have it working with a madwifi card :)
[12:19] <geoffroy_> oh ?
[12:19] <Seveas> geoffroy_, do you connect to only one wireless network?
[12:19] <rizla_> Seveas, do i have to unmark all en_...??
[12:19] <geoffroy_> generally, yeah
[12:19] <Seveas> rizla_, no, just make sure it generates italian ones too
[12:20] <Seveas> geoffroy_, how well is your linux knowledge?
[12:20] <rizla_> yes it does. but it was doing it before too
[12:20] <geoffroy_> "medium"
[12:20] <Seveas> ok, then you need to update /etc/environment
[12:20] <Seveas> ^^ that was for rizla_
[12:20] <geoffroy_> yeah =] 
[12:21] <Seveas> rizla, make sure it lists the italian locale there
[12:21] <Seveas> geoffroy_, ok, so you're not afraid to use a terminal and dig in configfiles?
[12:21] <geoffroy_> no
[12:21] <Seveas> ok nice, let's talk in private so we don;t disturb the rest :)
[12:21] <geoffroy_> yeah$
[12:22] <rizla_> Seveas, do i have to select only one italian locale?or more?
[12:24] <rizla_> ok, Seveas. i did it. i'm going to reboot. wish me good luck :)
[12:24] <andreu_> Medium= person that is intermediary betwen dead and alive.
[12:29] <Razor-X> woohoo, time to sleep
[12:29] <Razor-X> night everyone
[12:29] <fsapo> anyone knows how can i enable dma mode at boot in my cdrom?
[12:31] <rizla_> searcher`,
[12:32] <jiyuu0> fsapo, http://ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom
[12:32] <fsapo> jiyuu0, thanx
[12:32] <rizla_> Seveas, nothing changed
[12:33] <flodine> help tryed to install fluxbox but when it comes up theres no menu why
[12:33] <flodine> anyone running fluxbox
[12:34] <pybe> flodine: right click on the desktop
[12:34] <flodine> i tryed all i get is menu term
[12:34] <pybe> flodine: its minimal what did you expect
[12:35] <pybe> flodine: you can add items and I belive there is an app/script that will auto add apps
[12:35] <flodine> no there should be a cofi file for .fluxbox
[12:35] <pybe> cofi?
[12:36] <flodine> pybe in the .fluxbox the menu is empty
[12:36] <pybe> where did you install flux from
[12:36] <flodine> from sudo
[12:37] <pybe> heh no, where did you get the packages
[12:37] <flodine> not sure i let flux do it
[12:37] <pybe> flux?
[12:37] <flodine> i mean ubuntu
[12:37] <flodine> sorry
[12:37] <pybe> flodine: apt get
[12:37] <flodine> yes
[12:41] <pybe> flodine: so sudo apt-get install flux* see if it makes a difference
[12:46] <geoffroy_> hey hey dudes, does anybody have a i560 (canon) working on ubuntu ?
[12:46] <geoffroy_> I was told that only turboprint drivers work
[12:50] <geoffroy_> wich mail client are u using ?
[12:50] <geoffroy_> evolution, mozilla mail or mutt ?
[12:51] <Bazzi> thunderbyrd!
[12:51] <geoffroy_> with a Y like byrds ? =] 
[12:51] <geoffroy_> tunderbird enigmail ?
[12:51] <Bazzi> no, with an i
[12:51] <geoffroy_> i'll try it
[12:51] <Bazzi> mozilla thunderbird :)
[12:51] <geoffroy_> and is it installed on unbuntu ?
[12:52] <geoffroy_> or i have to download it
[12:52] <Bazzi> it's in universe I think
[12:52] <Bazzi> but can also be in standard repos
[12:52] <geoffroy_> ok, i'll check about universe and multiverse on wiki
[12:52] <dholbach> it's in main
[12:52] <Bazzi> try an apt-cache search thunderbird
[12:52] <dholbach> if you talk about mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail
[12:53] <geoffroy_> ok
[12:53] <Bazzi> enigmail? whats that? :o
[12:53] <dholbach> a pgp/gpg plugin for thunderbird
[12:53] <dholbach> lets you sign and encrypt mails
[12:53] <geoffroy_> ok
[12:54] <Bazzi> aaaah
[12:56] <geoffroy_> and for the canon i560 ?
[12:56] <geoffroy_> do you know how can i make it working ?
[12:57] <geoffroy_> afriend of mine said to me I 'll have to use turboprint
[01:04] <odyssey> i have a problem with ubuntu, sometimes the sound works perfectly and most of the time it loops and programs crash, i dont know whats causing it any ideas?
[01:12] <larsrohdin> hi, ive just connected my digital camera to my usb-port... how do I mount it?
[01:14] <odyssey> larsrohdin, it should automount and appear as an icon on your desktop
[01:14] <larsrohdin> nevermind me! i made it on the first atempt=) WOOT
[01:14] <dholbach> ROCK!
[01:14] <larsrohdin> odyssey, i don't use gnome
[01:14] <larsrohdin> i didn't work the last time, thats why i asked...
[01:15] <odyssey> is hal gnome only?
[01:15] <dholbach> gnome-volume-manager is
[01:15] <dholbach> hal isnt
[01:15] <odyssey> hmmm
[01:16] <dholbach> you! want! gnome! :-)
[01:16] <karljp> what do I need to get totem to play ac3 audio?
[01:16] <ayvmaat_> what is the porblem with ftp.nerim.net ?
[01:16] <ayvmaat_> i can' connect
[01:16] <karljp> I'm getting sound in xine, but not with totem.
[01:16] <karljp> avy: you probably haven't got the gpg stuff set up properly
[01:18] <dholbach> see you
[01:23] <shadeofgrey> okay
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> whats the best CD burning program for ubuntu that DOESNT use KDE?
[01:24] <dholbach> gnomebaker? nautilus-cd-burner
[01:24] <Delgul> graveman...
[01:25] <LaurenceRowe> Firefox has had a security update, but this seems to cause firefox-dom-inspector to break (it is dependent on firefox 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 but hoary-security has firefox 1.0.2-ubuntu5.1) any ideas how to get the security update but keep the dom inspector
[01:32] <zoddan> what is "network-manager" ?
[01:33] <michel_> does ubuntut recognize automatically usb memory stick?
[01:34] <foxk> hey got a strange problem with the man pages , anyone want's to hear it?
[01:34] <zxc> how do you delete something using terminal
[01:35] <petemc> zxc: man rm
[01:35] <zxc> man rm [name of file] , petemc?
[01:36] <petemc> no, it would be "rm [name of file] "
[01:36] <zxc> ah k
[01:36] <zxc> thanks
[01:36] <michel_> usb memory stick with ubuntu howto?
[01:36] <petemc> but the man page will tell you more
[01:36] <Q_Continuum> michel_, just to use a memory stick with Ubuntu?
[01:36] <zxc> hmm, what's the opposite of cd as I'm in /zxc/home and I want to get to /
[01:36] <petemc> cd ../..
[01:37] <petemc> but cd / would work too
[01:37] <Q_Continuum> or just cd /
[01:37] <zxc> rm: cannot remove directory `realplayer': Is a directory
[01:37] <zxc> , petemc it says that :/
[01:37] <petemc> man rm
[01:38] <petemc> zxc: you really dont want to be manually removing stuff, thats why you have package management
[01:38] <manitoba98xp> I heard that Hoary was supposed to be when tools for deriving from Ubuntu would be released, but I can't find anything. Has it been cancelled? Will it be in Breezy? Are they available, and I just can't find them?
[01:38] <zxc> yeah but I installed realplayer and it doesn't work so I need to remove it
[01:38] <petemc> zxc: how did you install it?
[01:39] <michel_> Q_Continuum yes just how to use it. i connect it
[01:39] <Q_Continuum> it should detect it fine, and make a link on the desktop, assuming that USB is working correctly.
[01:40] <michel_> nothing on desktop
[01:40] <manitoba98xp> Can anyone respond to me?
[01:41] <manitoba98xp> Excuse me, can anyone respond to my question?
[01:41] <Fator_Dee> manitoba98xp: could you rephrase your question, I don't seem to understand what you are asking about
[01:42] <manitoba98xp> I've read mailing list posts and the like (found via Google) that speak of tools for deriving from Ubuntu.
[01:42] <manitoba98xp> It said they were to be released in Hoary (that was before Hoary release).
[01:42] <manitoba98xp> Do such tools exist right now?
[01:43] <michel_> Q_Continuum noting on desktop
[01:43] <michel_> Q_Continuum noting on desktop
[01:43] <Q_Continuum> hmmm
[01:43] <Q_Continuum> browse the filesystem to /media
[01:43] <Zotnix> manitoba98xp: As I recall from meeting with someone that those tools weren't deemed 'good enough' for the Hoary release.
[01:43] <Zotnix> Still in development.
[01:43] <manitoba98xp> kk
[01:43] <manitoba98xp> will they be in Breezy?
[01:44] <Zotnix> If they are good enough ;)
[01:45] <manitoba98xp> so...do you know how much progress has to be made? (Do you think it will be in Breezy?)
[01:45] <yccheok_> I saw there is a Other folder in my Applications start up menu, how i can remove it?
[01:45] <michel_> michel@ltsp01:/media$ ls
[01:45] <michel_> cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0
[01:45] <michel_> michel@ltsp01:/media$
[01:45] <michel_> Q_Continuum: media has noting
[01:46] <Q_Continuum> hmmmm
[01:46] <michel_> but /proc/bus/usb/device T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
[01:46] <michel_> B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
[01:46] <michel_> D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
[01:46] <michel_> P:  Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06
[01:46] <michel_> S:  Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.10-5-386 uhci_hcd
[01:46] <michel_> S:  Product=Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB
[01:47] <michel_> S:  SerialNumber=0000:00:14.2
[01:47] <michel_> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA
[01:47] <Q_Continuum> I'm not sure then...anyone else have any experience with usb flash drives?
[01:47] <michel_> I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
[01:47] <michel_> E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   2 Ivl=255ms
[01:47] <michel_> devices (END)
[01:47] <pshend> is there a way from the command line to look though each file in a certain directory for a certain string, then return the file name?
[01:48] <liable> michel_: 'dmesg | tail'
[01:48] <liable> sudo
[01:48] <fidget> does anyone know how to view which ports Gnome BitTorrent is running on?
[01:49] <yccheok_> I can i remove the menu item from startup menu?
[01:49] <Fator_Dee> fidget: I'd guess the defaults
[01:49] <fidget> defaults being?
[01:49] <Fator_Dee> wait a sec
[01:49] <fidget> ah ... don't go out of your trouble dude
[01:50] <liable> doesnt bittorrent pick random ports?
[01:50] <Fator_Dee> fidget: too late :-)
[01:50] <michel_> michel@ltsp01:/mnt$ dmesg | tail
[01:50] <michel_> e100: eth0: e100_watchdog: link up, 10Mbps, half-duplex
[01:50] <michel_> NET: Registered protocol family 10
[01:50] <michel_> Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c02f0500(lo)
[01:50] <michel_> IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
[01:50] <michel_> ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PBTN] 
[01:50] <michel_> ibm_acpi: ec object not found
[01:50] <michel_> apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)
[01:50] <michel_> apm: overridden by ACPI.
[01:50] <michel_> eth1: no IPv6 routers present
[01:50] <michel_> eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[01:50] <michel_> michel@ltsp01:/mnt$
[01:50] <pshend> is there a way from the command line to look though each file in a certain directory for a certain string, then return the file name?
[01:50] <Fator_Dee> 6881-6889
[01:50] <fidget> yeah i'm trying to set up this stupid router with port forwarding .. only i've no idea which ports it is
[01:51] <fidget> Ahhh score
[01:51] <fidget> thanks much
[01:51] <liable> michel_: does lsmod show usb modules loaded? Dont paste the output here
[01:52] <BrianB04> Hey all
[01:53] <dead^^> how can I 'uncomment' on sources.list?
[01:53] <Fator_Dee> dead^^: remove the #
[01:53] <liable> dead^^: remove the #
[01:53] <Fator_Dee> :-)
[01:53] <michel_> liable: only usbcore usbcore               107384  2 uhci_hcd
[01:53] <dead^^> :) thx
[01:53] <BrianB04> Rmove the...oh nevermind;)
[01:54] <liable> michel_: 'sudo modprobe usb-storage; modprobe sd-mod'
[01:56] <michel_> liable: ok done
[01:57] <fidget> Fator_Dee Thanks man
[01:57] <liable> michel_: no errors?
[01:57] <liable> michel_: plug it in and do the dmesg thing again
[01:58] <Fator_Dee> fidget: I'm glad I could be of help
[01:59] <michel_> liable: no error and usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[01:59] <kuntu>  whats mozilla-xremote-client use ?
[01:59] <michel_> liable: noting on desktop
[02:00] <liable> michel_: sweet, what is it called sda1, sdb1
[02:00] <liable> michel_: from dmesg
[02:00] <liable> michel_: what desktop?
[02:01] <liable> michel_: slow typer? :)
[02:02] <kart_> hi, all
[02:02] <cyphase> hey
[02:03] <kart_> anyone from India?
[02:03] <michel_> michel@ltsp01:/mnt$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[02:03] <michel_> mount: /dev/sda1 ist bereits eingehngt oder /mnt wird gerade benutzt
[02:03] <michel_> mount: Laut mtab ist /dev/sda1 auf / eingehngt
[02:03] <cyphase> seeing as india has a population of 1 billion, i think there's probably a few people from india
[02:03] <cyphase> ;)
[02:04] <kart_> cyphase: where you from?
[02:04] <liable> michel_: can you translate that into english :(
[02:04] <cyphase> California
[02:05] <kart_> cyphase: cool
[02:05] <cyphase> lol
[02:05] <kart_> cyphase: many indians there..
[02:05] <anthony_> Hi, I am trying to install a VPN Client and the install script is asking where linux kernel source code is located. Can anyone help?
[02:06] <cyphase> california is full of people from everywhere
[02:06] <k31th> Guys is there a ubuntu documentation team?
[02:06] <kart_> anthony_: /usr/src/linux/
[02:06] <petemc> it wont be there by default..
[02:06] <resiak> michel_: Try LANG=C sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[02:06] <k31th> and a place where people can request HowTos they want or would like ?
[02:06] <liable> anthony_: install kernel-source for your kernel, should be in /usr/src
[02:06] <michel_> liable: tell that /dev/sda1 is mounted on /
[02:06] <k31th> as i would be keen to help or  set one up
[02:06] <resiak> michel_: (to get the stuffs in English)
[02:07] <dead^^> anyone here who's configured mozpluggerrc multimedia player settings. I read that I should add 'stream noisy ignore_errors: totem "$file" </dev/null' somewhere, but i'm not sure where i should type it
[02:07] <k31th> well if anyone from ubuntu wishes to contact me please pm me as im going for lunch be back in 5 mins
[02:08] <michel_> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[02:08] <michel_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /
[02:09] <liable> michel_: well find it then :)
[02:09] <geoffroy_> \o/
[02:10] <geoffroy_> does anyone know how can I use my canon i560 with ubuntu
[02:10] <michel_> liable: on syslog i have May 11 13:58:16 localhost hal.hotplug[6759] : timout(10000 ms) waiting for /class/scsi_host/host1
[02:10] <liable> geoffroy_: gphoto2 or just mount it.
[02:10] <liable> geoffroy_: woops, printer?
[02:10] <geoffroy_> but this printer isn't recognized
[02:10] <geoffroy_> there is no driver
[02:10] <geoffroy_> yeah printer
[02:11] <geoffroy_> I have to use turboprint drivers ? :<
[02:11] <SiRrUs> hello everyone
[02:11] <liable> michel_: just try this 'sudo umount /dev/sda1'
[02:12] <liable> michel_: 'mkdir /mnt/usb' and 'mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat -o umask=000 /mnt/usb'
[02:13] <anthony_> liable - sorry if this is new, but how do I install kernel-source ?
[02:13] <michel_> liable: umount: /: device is busy
[02:14] <liable> anthony_: 'sudo uname -r' then synaptic, and find the source for that kernel
[02:15] <liable> michel_: umount -f /dev/sda1       prolly wont work either
[02:16] <odyssey> michel_, sudo umount /dev/sda
[02:17] <liable> brb booze.
[02:18] <michel_> liable: device busy
[02:22] <k31th> mmmmm farleighs rusks are lush
[02:22] <liable> michel_: ok, what desktop you have, kde or gnome? or?
[02:22] <odyssey> k31th, ??
[02:23] <k31th> odyssey: baby biscuits
[02:23] <liable> michel_: 'sudo ls /'
[02:23] <michel_> liable: gnome
[02:23] <k31th> i just bought a double pack of them
[02:23] <odyssey> o
[02:24] <k31th> munchiesss
[02:24] <k31th> ooh guys
[02:24] <k31th> i have this problem my mouse is stuck and my printer wont work
[02:25] <clausme> how do i add
[02:25] <k31th> http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/PeterLB/Mouse.jpg
[02:25] <clausme> a shortcut
[02:25] <clausme> o xine
[02:25] <michel_> michel@ltsp01:/mnt$ sudo ls /
[02:25] <michel_> bin    dev   initrd      lost+found  opt   sbin  tmp  var
[02:25] <michel_> boot   etc   initrd.img  media       proc  srv   usb  vmlinuz
[02:25] <michel_> cdrom  home  lib         mnt         root  sys   usr
[02:25] <clausme> on desktop
[02:25] <k31th> right click on desktop create launcher
[02:25] <clausme> k
[02:25] <liable> michel_: in your filebrowser go to usb
[02:26] <michel_> so i have usb but cd /usb has noting inside
[02:27] <liable> michel_: is there anything on the stick?
[02:27] <k31th> lsusb ?
[02:27] <liable> michel_: ls -a /usb
[02:27] <michel_> i test it with windows it was somesongs mp3
[02:28] <liable> michel_: use metacity to go there
[02:29] <clausme> hello
[02:29] <michel_> what ist metacity
[02:29] <clausme> how do i open
[02:29] <clausme> games using wine gui
[02:29] <clausme> i canot lunch gui
[02:30] <liable> michel_: 'sudo lsmod' is there a vfat or fat module in there?
[02:31] <michel_> liable: sudo touch mifile it works
[02:32] <liable> michel_: ?? so there was nothing on it?
[02:32] <BoD_SWAT> I installed Ubuntu with only my secondary TFT attached (on secondary port). Now I want to set my primary CRT again (on the primary port). 1. How do I do that? (2. Do I need to add 2 devices to xorg.conf? 3. And has it something to do with my BusID?)
[02:33] <michel_> may be the stick is empty sorry but before it was something
[02:33] <^rob> Does anyone here have Ubuntu installed on a G5?
[02:33] <liable> michel_: np, at least its done. :)
[02:33] <zoddan> FETT det skar
[02:33] <zoddan> sknt ljud
[02:33] <michel_> thanks you
[02:34] <liable> ^rob: bob2, when hes around, I think has one.
[02:34] <lucychili> rob there is an ubuntu on an imac here
[02:35] <clausme> i hyave pe p4 on 2.8gxz
[02:37] <clausme> realy hard qouestion how do i enable 5.1 in ubuntu
[02:37] <clausme> ?
[02:38] <dead^^> i've installed w32codecs and Totem-xine but the sound's missing =(
[02:39] <fsapo> hi all, anyone knows how can i setup my dvd so the dvd playback will show in the tv instead of the monitor?
[02:39] <fsapo> the tv out is working, i just dont get any videos on the tv screen
[02:39] <Zen> hey all.. i have a network going and one of the pc's is windows.. i can access all the shared files on the windows pc from here.. but not access all the files on the linux pc.
[02:39] <yosef> I'm looking for a media player which is similar to windows media player 10...  supports video and audio, has a library and configurable gui. Any suggestions?
[02:40] <k31th> Zen: have u setup any file shares with samba on the linux pc ?
[02:40] <Amaranth> stupid storm
[02:40] <Zen> K31th: i dont understand samba.. if you can show me what to do id be grateful
[02:40] <k31th> Zen: you need to use samba
[02:41] <xmylonadis> hello everybody
[02:41] <liable> yosef: I dont think there is such a beast, all in one
[02:41] <Zen> K31th:  But how?
[02:41] <xmylonadis> new to ubuntu and need a little help
[02:41] <Zambba> Where is my FAT32 partition? :D
[02:41] <Zen> K31th: i have it installed
[02:41] <k31th> google for a samba howto and ill help if you get stuck
[02:41] <k31th> ahh
[02:41] <k31th> well
[02:41] <Zambba> I have now Ubuntu in my computer but I can't find my FAT32 anywhere :D
[02:41] <xmylonadis> i have installed ubuntu 5.04 on my laptop
[02:41] <Zambba> Or I don't know how to search
[02:41] <xmylonadis> can someone help??
[02:41] <k31th> go to /etc/smb.conf
[02:41] <clausme> whait
[02:41] <clausme> a sec
[02:42] <clausme> Zambba
[02:42] <Amaranth> xmylonadis: You haven't told us what's wrong.
[02:42] <dead^^> hi, all. i've installed w32codecs and Totem-xine but the sound's missing =(. do I have to install any separate audio codecs to have them work properly?
[02:42] <Zen> ok
[02:42] <k31th> use nano or some thing
[02:42] <liable> Zambba: navigate to /dev and it should be there
[02:43] <yosef> liable: which apps can I patch together?  xine can run from prompt and so can xmms....  are they worth patching to a common gui?
[02:43] <clausme> zamba sudo mkdir /media/windows
[02:43] <clausme> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup
[02:43] <clausme> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:43] <k31th> and edit the share section to the dir's you want sharing then, start the samba servoce
[02:43] <Amaranth> dead^^: is sound missing for just one movie file or all of them?
[02:43] <dead^^> Amaranth, All of them
[02:43] <liable> yosef: sure if can do it, by all means, but why do you need that in the first place?
[02:43] <clausme> Zambba Append the following line at the end of file
[02:43] <clausme> /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    umask=0222      0       0
[02:44] <clausme> sorry
[02:44] <clausme> not that
[02:44] <wietse> hello....;-)
[02:44] <clausme> /dev/hda1       /media/windows  vfat    umask=000       0       0
[02:44] <clausme> this line Zambba
[02:44] <Zambba> vfat? ok
[02:44] <Amaranth> dead^^: System->Preferences->Sound, uncheck "Enable sound server startup"
[02:45] <Zambba> well how do I know is it /dev/hda1 or /hda2
[02:45] <clausme> yes
[02:45] <liable> clausme: assuming hda1, is his vfat partition ;)
[02:45] <yosef> liable: it's not about need it's about want...  Are xmms & xine the recommended players?
[02:45] <clausme> yes
[02:45] <Amaranth> dead^^: then try to play a movie
[02:45] <clausme> now he can figure it aout
[02:45] <Zambba> I used to have 2 Windows partitions before I made space with Partition Magic for Linux
[02:45] <clausme> himself
[02:45] <Zen> ok K31th: ive edited it.. is the run command just samba?
[02:45] <xmylonadis> i have problems with acpi, cpu frequency and vga
[02:45] <dead^^> Amaranth, umm... where? on Totem preferences or elsewhere?
[02:45] <Fackamato> anyone tried e17?
[02:46] <k31th> Zen:
[02:46] <clausme> now
[02:46] <xmylonadis> it identifies my athlon xp 2400+ M
[02:46] <clausme> i need help
[02:46] <Amaranth> dead^^: System is one of those menus on the top of your screen
[02:46] <sauli> how I get sounds work in ubuntu?
[02:46] <Zen> K31th:?
[02:46] <clausme> does anyoane know how to enable 5.1 in ubuntu
[02:46] <clausme> ?
[02:46] <robsta> hi, kernel build baild on failing "abiname" file, what could i do?
[02:46] <liable> yosef: depends on your tastes entirely, try them all, and see what makes you happy
[02:46] <xmylonadis> but i can't change it's frequency from the cpu frequency monitor
[02:46] <liable> clausme: 5.1 what?
[02:46] <clausme> sound
[02:47] <liable> ahhh
[02:47] <Zen> K31th: How do i run it?
[02:47] <yosef> liable: is there an audio player similar to foobar?
[02:47] <liable> no :)
[02:47] <xmylonadis> and it's always at 353MHz
[02:47] <clausme> is there an winamp for debian
[02:47] <clausme> ?
[02:47] <liable> yosef: what?
[02:47] <dead^^> Amaranth, now all my sounds went dead =)
[02:47] <Amaranth> yosef: xmms is similar to winamp
[02:47] <clausme> cant
[02:47] <clausme> install
[02:47] <clausme> xmms
[02:47] <clausme> some erors
[02:47] <Amaranth> yosef: we're proud we don't have a foobar2000 :)
[02:47] <clausme> or how do i start xmms
[02:48] <Zen> anybody here
[02:48] <Zen> can tell me
[02:48] <Zen> how to run
[02:48] <Zen> samba
[02:48] <Zen> ?
[02:48] <xmylonadis> help...
[02:48] <clausme> got it
[02:48] <yosef> amaranth: i know and i don't really like it, foobar has better dsp options (both unpatched)
[02:48] <Amaranth> dead^^: ok, now go to System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selection
[02:48] <dead^^> Amaranth, and then?
[02:48] <Amaranth> dead^^: err, Selector. anyway, in there change the default sink from esd to oss
[02:49] <Amaranth> that should fix all your 'other' sounds
[02:50] <xmylonadis> help...
[02:50] <k31th> Zen: /etc/init.d/samba start
[02:51] <xmylonadis> anyone that can help/
[02:51] <xmylonadis> ?
[02:51] <dead^^> Amaranth, i tried it and it gives the testing sound but still, no sound
[02:51] <clausme> xine stack when i tried to load an subtiitle.srt
[02:51] <clausme> anyoane know why
[02:51] <clausme> ?
[02:51] <dead^^> Amaranth, on my totem-player =P
[02:51] <Amaranth> dead^^: ok...
[02:51] <Amaranth> dead^^: can you play an mp3 or something with totem?
[02:52] <Amaranth> dead^^: or does that give nothing too
[02:52] <clausme> there is a program like dc++
[02:52] <clausme> on debian
[02:52] <clausme> ?
[02:52] <Amaranth> clausme: Please type out your full question before hitting enter.
[02:53] <dead^^> Amaranth, no, it says that i should install corresponding plugins or something like that
[02:53] <Amaranth> dead^^: oh, that's different
[02:53] <clausme> i formulated my full question
[02:53] <Amaranth> dead^^: you know what, i give up. install vlc :)
[02:53] <clausme> there is a program similar to dc++ od rmdc on debian
[02:53] <Amaranth> dead^^: Other than WMV3 if vlc won't play it it isn't playable on linux. :)
[02:54] <clausme> Amaranth
[02:54] <Amaranth> clausme: Get the dcgui package.
[02:54] <clausme> how
[02:54] <clausme> ?
[02:55] <Amaranth> clausme: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[02:55] <clausme> got
[02:55] <clausme> it
[02:55] <clausme> k
[02:55] <clausme> i got i wint apt-get
[02:55] <Amaranth> clausme: click the search button on the toolbar, type dcgui
[02:55] <Amaranth> ok, apt-get works too
[02:55] <Amaranth> synaptic is just a gui for apt, so it's the same thing
[02:56] <dockane> hi all .. i need to import a adressbook of thunderbird from a ntfs partition to my thunderbird on ubunut. any idea what to import ?
[02:57] <xmylonadis> hey i need help......
[02:58] <dockane> the thunderbird on the ntfs partition is a windows$  version. i forggot to export the adressbook. any chance to recover it from the installation files ?
[02:58] <Amaranth> xmylonadis: If someone knows how to help they'll respond.
[02:59] <mr_roboto> dockane: can't you boot to windows again in order to export it? (not sure what the address book file is without having it installed)
[02:59] <Amaranth> the addressbook file is abook.mab
[02:59] <dockane> mr_roboto, booting is impossible
[03:00] <dockane> Amaranth, tried to import that but all entries were empty
[03:00] <Amaranth> hrm
[03:00] <mr_roboto> dockane: is there an associated index file?
[03:00] <Jormundgand> There wouldn't be any more images like this one, would there? http://www.ketsuban.net/images/backgrounds/Minimalistic_Black_and_White.jpg
[03:02] <xmylonadis_> anyone that can help me with the frequency issue?
[03:03] <fabio> hello guys
[03:03] <Jormundgand> AMD Athlons are known not to support CPU frequency modification by Ubuntu.
[03:03] <Jormundgand> If you watch the startup messages it should say. It certainly does for my AMD Athlon XP 2200+.
[03:03] <fabio> does somebody knows how to set up GTK+ enviroment on Ubuntu? I mean programming for it?
[03:03] <zoddan> WTF is thie
[03:03] <zoddan> this
[03:03] <zoddan> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device
[03:03] <zoddan> the network was working this morning
[03:04] <xmylonadis_> the powernow daemon starts
[03:04] <xmylonadis_> and although it lists my cpu as a 800mhz processor
[03:04] <xmylonadis_> it now runs @353mHz
[03:05] <xmylonadis_> i read at the forums that it supports amd powernow and cpu scaling
[03:05] <xmylonadis_> but i don't have the problems that these guys mentioned
[03:05] <xmylonadis_> i only need to change the frequency
[03:05] <xmylonadis_> is there any configuration file tha i could alter ot smthg?
[03:06] <mindmedic> xmylonadis, the frequency will rise when prcessor is at a high load
[03:06] <xmylonadis_> really?
[03:06] <Nermal> xMaximex, that's normal
[03:06] <Nermal> d0h.. fool
[03:06] <mindmedic> yes, try it
[03:06] <Dave9191> hey guys, i need a hand compiling some code , it cant find libz during ./configure
[03:06] <xmylonadis_> how can i check that?
[03:06] <mindmedic> thats the purpose of this daemon
[03:07] <mindmedic> do something cpu intensive
[03:07] <xmylonadis_> any default progs on ubuntu?
[03:07] <Seveas> Dave9191, then install zlib1g and zlib1g-dev
[03:07] <mindmedic> if you use gnome use the cpu monitor applet to watch the speed
[03:07] <clausme> how do i run wine in gui
[03:07] <clausme> ?
[03:07] <mindmedic> cpu intensive programs, enough out there :)
[03:08] <Amaranth> clausme: You mean a gui to easily run a program you've installed with wine?
[03:08] <ravenOUS> ne body know the reason why i can install dvd shrink using wine, but i cant fully UNinstall it?
[03:08] <Fackamato> ravenOUS: don't use dvdshrink in wine
[03:08] <clausme> i don't know i what to paly a game
[03:08] <ravenOUS> why not?
[03:08] <ravenOUS> what should i use then?
[03:08] <clausme> and i don't know how to use wine
[03:08] <mindmedic> ogmrip
[03:08] <Amaranth> clausme: Oh, you need a subscription to cedega then. wine doesn't have much for directx support.
[03:08] <Dave9191> Seveas i was missing zlib1g-dev, cheers
[03:08] <Kyaneos> hi
[03:09] <mindmedic> forhet what i said
[03:09] <ravenOUS> Fackamato: so what else should i use instead of that to copy dvds in the same way?
[03:09] <Fackamato> a windows computer
[03:09] <Seveas> Dave9191, you always need the -dev versions when you compile stuff, they contain the headers
[03:09] <Jormundgand> mindmedic: "cpu intensive programs, enough out there"? You say that like it's a good thing.
[03:10] <clausme> can you tell me where can i get cedega for free
[03:10] <clausme> ?
[03:10] <Dave9191> Seveas, i know, but i checked the repositories and only zlib1g came up, no -dev version
[03:12] <Amaranth> clausme: No, I'm not going to tell you how to break the law.
[03:13] <clausme> ok
[03:13] <clausme> another question there is a program similar to daemon tools
[03:13] <clausme> in debian
[03:13] <clausme> somthing like virtual cd
[03:13] <ptlo> if the file is an ISO (*.iso), you can mount it using loopback device
[03:14] <clausme> is anrg
[03:14] <clausme> is a nrg
[03:14] <ptlo> afaik, nothing can read Nero or Alcohol images
[03:14] <Zambba> oh
[03:14] <clausme> and how can i looopback an iso image
[03:14] <clausme> ?
[03:14] <Seveas> only iso (mount) and bin/cue (bchunk) are supported afaik
[03:14] <Zambba> my sound is screwed up in Ubunut
[03:14] <Seveas> clausme, read the manpage for mount or search on the forum, your the zillionth to ask :)
[03:15] <Zambba> the quality isn't good :P
[03:15] <ptlo> clausme: hmm, i heard that there's nero for linux, maybe it knows how to unpack it
[03:15] <ptlo> s/it/the .nrg files
[03:15] <clausme> i need to load an iso image then how do i do it
[03:15] <clausme> i have linux now
[03:15] <clausme> i am a noob
[03:16] <clausme> hell
[03:16] <clausme> about that loopbak
[03:16] <clausme> thing
[03:16] <clausme> how do i do it
[03:17] <ravenOUS> ne body wants a freakin awesome package of updates for ubuntu...go to http://iso.mrbass.org/ubuntuaddon.zip
[03:17] <mindmedic> clausme, that gotta be a 100 times written all over the internet
[03:17] <mindmedic> mount the image with -o loop option
[03:18] <Seveas> clausme, just search the forums...
[03:18] <mindmedic> Jormundgand, yes, games are a good thing
[03:18] <clausme> man i need the command line because i have linux for about 2 days now and i have allways used linux
[03:18] <clausme> i am in a difrent worl right now
[03:18] <clausme> windows
[03:18] <clausme> sorry
[03:19] <ravenOUS> clausme:  dont worry man, i was in ur very same position earlier this week
[03:19] <mindmedic> yes.. as i said "mount image.iso /your/path -o loop"
[03:19] <geoffroy_> hey dudes, does anybody have a printer canon (i560) which works on linux ?
[03:19] <Andril> hello all
[03:19] <clausme> ok
[03:20] <ravenOUS> clausme: once you go linux (and in my case, mappin network drives), you'll never want to go back
[03:20] <Andril> I need some help
[03:21] <Andril> I just built a new system that was supposed to be fully supported by Ubuntu - but my audio does not work
[03:21] <Andril> is there any way to queue an audio config?
[03:22] <ravenOUS> clausme: KDE is the better than Gnome...much closer to a windows environment
[03:22] <ravenOUS> clausme:  hope this helps
[03:22] <ravenOUS> LATA PIMPS!!
[03:22] <ravenOUS> peace all
[03:22] <ravenOUS> im out
[03:22] <clausme> ubuntu has gnome
[03:22] <clausme> how do i swich kde
[03:22] <clausme> ?
[03:23] <clausme> i have mi iso on my ntfs partition
[03:23] <clausme> it is a problem in mounting it
[03:23] <clausme> ?
[03:23] <Zambba> My sound is crackly in Ubuntu. From Windows is does work without cracking.
[03:23] <Fackamato> Zambba: Fix it then.
[03:24] <Fackamato> Adjust volumes properly. Change buffers. Try another sound system.
[03:24] <Andril> I have no sounf
[03:24] <Andril> *sound
[03:24] <Andril> is there an audio config - command?
[03:27] <clausme> man i am in a little problem here
[03:27] <clausme> can someone help me
[03:27] <clausme> i am tring to play starcraft
[03:27] <clausme> i have the iso image
[03:27] <clausme> but i try to open it with wine
[03:27] <liable> Andril: try 'sudo alsaconf'
[03:27] <clausme> an is asking me for the cd
[03:27] <liable> clausme: #winehq maybe
[03:28] <clausme> i have tried mounting the image and still nothing
[03:28] <Andril> command not found
[03:29] <liable> Andril: gnome?
[03:29] <Andril> liable, command not found
[03:29] <Andril> liable, yep
[03:29] <Echylo> can somebody explain me why I get this error when trying to launch esd , "/dev/dsp directory not found..." :| its like my soundcard is gone :s
[03:29] <clausme> noane is online there
[03:29] <liable> Andril: no sound config thing in there?
[03:29] <Andril> liable, this is a fresh install from last night
[03:30] <Fator_Dee> clausme: where did you mount it?
[03:30] <clausme> root@clausme:/home/clausme # "mount broodwar.iso /media/windows/jocuri/JOACE kit -o loop
[03:30] <clausme> look
[03:31] <liable> Andril: what sound card
[03:31] <liable> Andril: lappie?
[03:31] <jono>  I installed the ubuntu hula packages and run hulasetup and nothing happens, any idea why?
[03:31] <Fator_Dee> clausme: mount it to /media/cdrom/
[03:31] <Fator_Dee> then try
[03:31] <clausme> how
[03:31] <clausme> can you paste em thecommand line
[03:32] <Fator_Dee> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /media/cdrom
[03:32] <Andril> liable, lappie = command not found - sorry I am a noob
[03:32] <Andril> liable, it worked on my other system
[03:32] <Fator_Dee> (and of course when I say file.iso, I mean the iso-file you are trying to mount)
[03:33] <agge> i have an error in my ubuntu installation.. it says that it couldent load floppy.ko.. but i dont have a floppy..
[03:33] <liable> Andril: ok, that sound card was supported with another linux distro? what is your sound card? is it a laptop?
[03:35] <Andril> liable, all I use is Ubuntu
[03:35] <poe-t> is there #russian-ubuntu?
[03:35] <liable> Andril: and it used to work?
[03:35] <Andril> liable, I had Ubuntu on another PC and it worked fine
[03:35] <Linforcer> sooo I've got this lame Gnome menu editor taht makes launchers , but can anyone tell me how to make new categories?
[03:35] <poe-t> some1 setup ubuntu apache to work with many encodings?
[03:35] <Fator_Dee> poe-t: try #ubuntu-ru
[03:35] <poe-t> Fator_Dee, tks
[03:36] <agge> oh.. it said cp: input/output
[03:36] <Andril> I just built this PC BiostarM7VIG 400 systemboard w/ Via AC97 Audio
[03:36] <liable> poe-t: theres a #debian-russian, dunno about ubuntu
[03:37] <poe-t> liable, ok. there is #ubuntu-ru
[03:37] <poe-t> tkds
[03:37] <poe-t> tks
[03:37] <liable> Andril: yes, well the *other* pc prolly has diff hardware :)
[03:37] <Andril> liable, I read were the Biostar M7VIG 400 was completely the ideal board for Ubuntu - so I oredered it
[03:37] <liable> Andril: 'sudo lspci'
[03:38] <liable> Andril: what the sound say?
[03:38] <Dave9191> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[03:38] <Dave9191> what package do i need to fix this ?
[03:38] <liable> Dave9191: qt-dev prolly if make xconfig
[03:39] <Andril> liable, 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[03:39] <Dave9191> liable - qt-dev not found
[03:40] <xmylonadis_> how can i configure acpi in gnome?
[03:40] <liable> Dave9191: aplogies, libqt3-dev
[03:41] <Dave9191> liable - i just installed that, but i still get the same msg on ./configure
[03:42] <liable> Andril: 'sudo lsmod | grep snd'
[03:42] <liable> Dave9191: configuring what?
[03:42] <Dave9191> liable - im trying to comiple the sourcecode for kuake
[03:43] <liable> Andril: install alsa-base, alsa-utils
[03:43] <Get> My nvidia-driver-installation is broken
[03:44] <liable> Dave9191: apt-cache search qt3
[03:44] <Get> now X won't start
[03:44] <Get> but I havent done nothing...
[03:44] <Dave9191> liable - i tried that already and ive installed around 40mb of  libs, but still no dice
[03:44] <ivoks> lol
[03:44] <liable> Dave9191: obviosly not the right ones :)
[03:45] <Dave9191> liable - obvisoly not, but i dont know what else i need
[03:45] <liable> Dave9191: qt3-apps-dev,qt3-dev-tools?
[03:45] <Andril> liable, they are installed - what if i install another sound card - do I have to reconfigure?
[03:46] <clausme> mount-iso is availebele in debian
[03:46] <clausme> ?
[03:46] <clausme> its suports nrg
[03:46] <clausme> and is a gui program
[03:46] <liable> Andril: if alsa is installed then 'sudo alsaconf'
[03:46] <Dave9191> liable - i had qt3-apps-dev, qt3-dev-tools, then libqt3-dev unistalled qt3-apps-dev
[03:46] <geoffroy_> dudes, could you just tell me if i can make a canon i560 working with ubuntu
[03:46] <geoffroy_> (without turboprint drivers)
[03:47] <liable> Dave9191: look in the readme?
[03:47] <liable> Dave9191: or install, should say what you need
[03:47] <ivoks> ok... wifi-radar is ok now
[03:48] <IcemanV9> clausme: wanna try this way - http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning
[03:48] <Andril> laible, not found - should I reinstall or install another card?
[03:49] <Dave9191> liable - doesnt mention qt in any of them
[03:50] <Get> plz help me
[03:51] <clausme> i found a file called install.sh how do i run it
[03:51] <clausme> ?
[03:51] <bloomberg> Get: whats up?
[03:51] <liable> Dave9191: sorry, dunno, whats your qt versions, >3.0?
[03:51] <Get> bloomberg: nvidia problem
[03:52] <clausme> i found a file called install.sh how do i run it
[03:52] <clausme> ?
[03:52] <liable> clausme: sudo /path/to/script/install.sh
[03:52] <Get> I haven't change anything, but when I started the computer the xorg won't start
[03:52] <Dave9191> liable - how do i check the versions, ive only been installing qt3, so im guessing >3.0
[03:53] <liable> Dave9191: dpkg -L qt3-apps-dev
[03:53] <xmylonadis_> how can i configure acpi in gnome?
[03:53] <jahor> hi, pls is it possible with some existing tool to make a selective mirror ? i mean... i want some packages and all related packages to mirror. maybe i could use debootstrap and some magick, but some some specific tool could be better
[03:53] <liable> xmylonadis_: to do what, its not a gnome thing, its a system thing
[03:54] <Dave9191> liable - qt3-apps-dev got unistalled due to conflicts when libqt3-dev came on
[03:54] <liable> Dave9191: well pkg -L one of em
[03:54] <liable> dpkg even
[03:55] <Dave9191> liable 3.3.3
[03:56] <BoD_SWAT> I installed Ubuntu with only my secondary TFT attached (on secondary port). Now I want to set my primary CRT again (on the primary port). 1. How do I do that? (2. Do I need to add 2 devices to xorg.conf? 3. And has it something to do with my BusID?)
[03:57] <liable> Dave9191: hmmm, try the compile again, I really dont know, libqt3 usually does it :(
[03:58] <Dave9191> liable - thx anyway, maybe it just cant find the libs
[04:00] <liable> BoD_SWAT: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:01] <Rudi> hello all, i have problem with gnome user permissions
[04:01] <Rudi> any help for my?
[04:01] <synd> anyone help me figure out why my CDROM is choppy why i play CDs?
[04:01] <desrt> Rudi; it's best to just ask your question
[04:01] <b_e_n_z> synd: DMA disabled?
[04:01] <synd> why - when*
[04:01] <liable> Rudi: explain, the prob, we arent pyschic
[04:01] <desrt> synd; because by default ubuntu is setup to play cds by ripping them and playing them
[04:01] <synd> b_e_n_z: no
[04:02] <synd> desrt: thats stupid
[04:02] <synd> it worked fine with warty
[04:02] <desrt> synd; it gets worse.  i can't find the option to disable it.
[04:02] <liable> synd: it does what?
[04:03] <synd> i noticed the same problem on my Toshiba laptop when i installed hoary (fresh install)
[04:03] <liable> sorry desrt it does what?
[04:03] <desrt> liable; the cd player used to work by just telling the cd to play.  then the audio cable between the cdrom and the soundcard would be used for transport (analog)
[04:03] <Andril> liable, am I screwed?
[04:03] <desrt> liable; now it basically rips the cd and plays it through the soundcard (digital)
[04:03] <Rudi> desrt: ok i require disable any interface changes in gnome (panel..)
[04:03] <synd> but my dell, i installed hoary and it plays cds fine
[04:04] <desrt> Rudi; gconf has these things called 'lockdown'... they're fairly new but maybe one of them covers what you're trying to do
[04:04] <Rudi> i require disable any interface changes in gnome (panel..) hm?
[04:04] <synd> but my emachines tower and my toshiba laptop both play choppy.
[04:04] <liable> Andril: did alsaconf work?
[04:04] <synd> ugh
[04:04] <liable> brb
[04:05] <desrt> Rudi; go into gconf-editor
[04:05] <Rudi> desrt, yes, but lockdowns not work with my ubuntu. i search and trying 3 hours with google and no function. ;-(
[04:05] <desrt> under /apps/panel/global
[04:05] <desrt> you'll find a checkbox that says 'locked_down'
[04:05] <desrt> check it
[04:05] <Rudi> desrt, ok i have opened desktop/gnome/lockdown in gconf, and?
[04:06] <desrt> no.  this lockdown is not in there
[04:06] <desrt> 09:05 < desrt> under /apps/panel/global
[04:06] <Rudi> desrt, aha.. moment..
[04:06] <Rudi> aha..
[04:06] <Rudi> ;-0
[04:06] <desrt> :)
[04:07] <Andril> liable, it keeps saying command not found
[04:07] <geoffroy_> what are u using for listening music ?
[04:07] <BoD_SWAT> liable, thnx, will try it
[04:07] <synd> geoffroy_: cd player
[04:07] <Rudi> desrt, locked_down ;-) wow, VERY THANKS!
[04:07] <geoffroy_> :!
[04:07] <desrt> Rudi; no problem :)
[04:07] <synd> geoffroy_: ?
[04:08] <geoffroy_> was speaking about a software
[04:08] <geoffroy_> which player
[04:08] <geoffroy_> i don't think u re using rythmbox ?
[04:08] <synd> yeah
[04:08] <synd> its called cd player
[04:08] <geoffroy_> oh ?
[04:08] <synd> Application > Sound & Video > CD Player
[04:09] <synd> it automatically opens up when i insert a music CD
[04:09] <geoffroy_> well hmm
[04:09] <geoffroy_> a player which can manage libraries
[04:09] <geoffroy_> like itunes or winamp
[04:09] <synd> i cant figure out how to try to get xmms to play CDs tho
[04:09] <neuroboosteur> totem ?
[04:10] <resiak> geoffroy_: rhythmbox
[04:10] <geoffroy_> i know there is a software better than xmms
[04:10] <synd> itunes & winamp isnt available for linux
[04:10] <geoffroy_> but i can't remember the name
[04:10] <geoffroy_> yeah yeah i know
[04:10] <geoffroy_> but a itunes or winamp like
[04:10] <synd> xmms = winamp
[04:10] <synd> for the most part
[04:11] <synd> and when i try to rip a CD with sound juicer.. it rips at 0.5x
[04:11] <Rudi> desrt, and disabling alt-f2?
[04:11] <resiak> bmp !
[04:11] <resiak> mpd !
[04:13] <clausme> i got cedega for free
[04:13] <clausme> man i am good
[04:13] <ik> hi
[04:14] <Andril> liable, this is the Onboard card (C-Media CMI9761A 6-Channel AC'97 CODEC)
[04:14] <ik> what is a nice program to whach movies?
[04:14] <ivoks> ik xine
[04:14] <ik> oh ok
[04:14] <Fator_Dee> ik: xine, vlc or mplayer
[04:14] <ik> thanks
[04:14] <Fator_Dee> I use them all :-p
[04:14] <ik> ok :)
[04:14] <synd> i recommend xine, ik
[04:14] <ivoks> for DVD i use only xine
[04:14] <ik> ok i install now :)
[04:15] <ivoks> mplayer is ok for quick and dirty porn :)
[04:15] <ik> for avi?
[04:15] <ik> xDD
[04:15] <Rudi> is there any answer: 1) disabling alt-f2 in gnome 2) disabling minimize animation in gnome ?? ;-))
[04:15] <ivoks> 1) yes
[04:15] <Daan> hi all
[04:15] <ivoks> Rudi keyboard shourtcuts
[04:15] <geoffroy_> ivoks,  and what do u use to listen music ?
[04:15] <Daan> anybody here know a good ogg to mp3 converter?
[04:15] <clausme> xine stak when i try to load an subtitle why
[04:15] <clausme> ?
[04:16] <ivoks> geoffroy_ for my mp3/ogg collection i use quodlibet
[04:16] <geoffroy_> ok
[04:16] <geoffroy_> thanks
[04:16] <ik> what is the program to install programs?
[04:16] <ivoks> Daan ogg -> wav -> mp3 :)
[04:16] <ik> syntic?
[04:16] <Rudi> ivoks, ?
[04:16] <geoffroy_> synaptic, ik
[04:16] <ik> oh ok thankyou :)
[04:16] <ivoks> Rudi you want to disablee alt-f2?
[04:17] <Rudi> ivoks, ok i find it, oh..
[04:17] <Rudi> ivoks, sorry.. keyboard shortcuts.. yes.. yes..
[04:18] <Daan>  ogg -> wav -> mp3 :), what do you mean? is there not a nice little app that i can get via synaptic to convert an ogg to mp3?
[04:18] <geoffroy_> you cant convert an ogg to mp3
[04:18] <geoffroy_> you have to convert it in wav fist
[04:18] <ivoks> Daan mp32ogg
[04:18] <Daan> okay, is there an app that will convert an ogg to wav, and a wav to mp3?
[04:18] <ivoks> Daan maybe it can do vice versa :)
[04:19] <willis> Daan, oggdec + lame
[04:19] <ivoks> Daan it can;t :)
[04:19] <Daan> i just read that too ivoks, thanks though
[04:20] <Daan> willis, either offdec or lame or both
[04:20] <willis> Daan, oggdec will turn an ogg into a wav
[04:20] <ivoks> Daan here is answer:
[04:20] <willis> Daan, and lame will encode a wav as mp3
[04:20] <Daan> okay, many thanks
[04:21] <willis> Daan, no problem
[04:22] <ivoks> Daan for i in `ls *.[mMpP] 3 | cut -d'.' -f1` ; do oggdec $i.ogg $i.wav && lame -b 192 $i.wav $i.mp3 ; done
[04:23] <Andril> liable, one more question - if I install another card will I have something to configure?
[04:23] <Daan> ivoks, wow, hmm, let me see.... so after installing both offdec and lame that command will turn th ogg into wav and directly thereafter to mp3? does it than delete the wav too?
[04:24] <ivoks> ups
[04:24] <resiak> You really don't want to transcode from ogg to mp3 ... them mp3 will sound like ass.
[04:24] <Rudi> know here any people, how disable minimizing animation in gnome?
[04:24] <resiak> In the window manager options?
[04:25] <Tomcat__> Can anybody please tell me where I can read changelogs of package updates? I just received the mozilla-firefox update and I would like to know if that fixes the bug from yesterday...
[04:25] <Daan> resiak, it will sound crap? really?
[04:25] <ivoks> Daan for i in `ls *.ogg | cut -d'.' -f1` ; do oggdec $i.ogg $i.wav && lame -b 192 $i.wav $i.mp3 ; done
[04:25] <Rudi> resiak - i have installed default gnome in ubuntu with default window manager
[04:25] <ivoks> resiak that's true
[04:25] <resiak> Daan: Of course. Because Ogg Vorbis throws some of the data away, and mp3 throws different data away.
[04:25] <resiak> Daan: You really want to make your mp3s from uncompressed rips.
[04:26] <fluideye> i need help configuring wireless card
[04:26] <Daan> okay, is there a good ripper for gnome that will make mp3's from a cd?
[04:26] <resiak> goobox!
[04:26] <resiak> sound-juicer!
[04:26] <ivoks> goobox is ok
[04:27] <Daan> i have sound juicer but im cannot make mp3
[04:27] <jeroen_> Daan: Why do you need mp3?
[04:27] <ivoks> for mp3 player
[04:27] <mjr> well, truthfully, for many relevant applications ogg->mp3 works "well enough", for example for throwaway copies made for an mp3-only pocket player
[04:27] <Daan> yup
[04:27] <wezzer> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:27] <jeroen_> check the wiki on restricted formats
[04:27] <dockane> i need tailf ... is that an alias ?
[04:27] <mjr> but of course it _will_ be worse than encoding a lossless copy
[04:27] <jeroen_> mjr, ogg -> mp3 is a bad thing to do
[04:28] <mjr> jeroen_, my point was that it isn't always too bad
[04:28] <black_Nightmare> any of you know about linux and videos?
[04:29] <agge_> hello
[04:29] <black_Nightmare> I was wondering if video-out is not always supported by linux: true?
[04:29] <agge_> What is the DEB thinhy.. like deb http://etc etc
[04:29] <ivoks> black_Nightmare it is or isn't supported by manufacturer
[04:29] <mjr> I have a script to transcode ogg vorbis files to mp3 for my n-gage which only plays mp3; I don't use the files for any other purpose, and throw them away when I'm done listening. "Well enough."
[04:30] <ivoks> mjr i agree.. for that... you can live with that quality
[04:30] <black_Nightmare> ivoks...hmm...let me see if it even mentions the chipset....
[04:30] <fluideye> is wireless a sore subject?
[04:30] <black_Nightmare> "Intel Extreme Graphics 2 Technology" is all I can tell
[04:30] <black_Nightmare> I think thats a similar vga graphic chipset that hp computers used before..or I might be wrong
[04:30] <ivoks> laptop
[04:30] <sorsis_> i just got my 5.04 from mail and i'm testing AMD64 livecd. every picture on this CD is corrupted and many programs just don't start. is everything ok on the other CD?
[04:31] <black_Nightmare> and duh..yeah... this is a laptop -- I should have mentioned that
[04:31] <ivoks> black_Nightmare i don't think that chipset has ever had tv-out
[04:31] <ivoks> black_Nightmare on lot of laptops there is connector for s-video, but isn't working
[04:32] <abbas> hi
[04:32] <ivoks> e.g. on mine :)
[04:32] <black_Nightmare> ivoks... "1 S-Video output port*" is what the laptop specifications says .. and a footnote states "* Not tested/supported with Linux
[04:32] <black_Nightmare> " in smaller font
[04:32] <dockane> where do i get 'tailf'  from ?
[04:32] <black_Nightmare> so it does have to be a working video-out
[04:32] <fluideye> first time on x-chat, help?
[04:32] <abbas> how can i install java for imac g4
[04:32] <ivoks> black_Nightmare well... it says it isn't supported
[04:32] <ivoks> fluideye welcome
[04:33] <fluideye> thank you
[04:33] <black_Nightmare> ivoks... well...or they didn't test it either way?
[04:33] <Daan> in goobox i cannot select mp3, how do i activate that?
[04:33] <black_Nightmare> likewise with the via epia boards .. linux has some video i/o working but I dunno if its fully yet
[04:33] <ivoks> black_Nightmare I never worked with that chipset :(
[04:33] <fluideye> ivoks  can you help with wireless config?
[04:33] <ivoks> oh no, not again :)
[04:33] <fluideye> oops
[04:33] <mdJake> hello
[04:33] <ivoks> fluideye what card?
[04:33] <black_Nightmare> ivoks...ty anyhow ... is it possible to find a 56K chipset for laptops that linux is happy to support?
[04:33] <fluideye> rt2500
[04:34] <black_Nightmare> because this thing has one and it doesn't even point to the footnote at all
[04:34] <ivoks> black_Nightmare modem?
[04:34] <fluideye> i followed the how to listed in the forums and was able to get it up (ra0)
[04:34] <ivoks> fluideye great
[04:34] <karljp> anyone know how to get ac3 audio wtih dvds in totem?
[04:34] <ivoks> fluideye and?
[04:34] <karljp> I've got the video, and I've got sound with xine, just not totem
[04:34] <fluideye> was sending and receiving packets but wouldn't connect
[04:35] <mdJake> Can you tell me where can I find docs about the 2.6 kernel's disk handling principles?
[04:35] <black_Nightmare> ivoks...yes ... modem
[04:35] <mdJake> I mean
[04:35] <fluideye> so I rebooted got
[04:35] <mdJake> ide, scsi and scsi emulation
[04:35] <ivoks> black_Nightmare yes, mine is working
[04:35] <mdJake> what the modules do etc
[04:35] <fluideye> configuring network devices...unable to supply power
[04:36] <black_Nightmare> hmm ty...
[04:36] <ivoks> fluideye type iwconfig in terminal and tell me does it report any wireless adapter?
[04:36] <ivoks> black_Nightmare it's intel's modem
[04:36] <black_Nightmare> ok just a stupid question but....
[04:36] <Jormundgand> There wouldn't be any more images in the same style this one, would there? http://www.ketsuban.net/images/backgrounds/Minimalistic_Black_and_White.jpg
[04:36] <fluideye> no just eth0 and lo
[04:36] <ivoks> fluideye sudo modprobe rt2500
[04:37] <black_Nightmare> 14" xga (1024x768) or 15.4" wxga (1280x800) .... would it be true about lcd looking funny outside their one native res or I could get the 15.4" and ram down 800x600 daily without a problem?
[04:37] <black_Nightmare> I've been around tons of crt..and very few (mostly store's) lcd :">
[04:38] <ivoks> black_Nightmare LCDs do good only on one resolution
[04:38] <ivoks> some don't even work on others
[04:38] <black_Nightmare> hrm...and if I asked for lower res.. what would happen?
[04:38] <fluideye> ivoks module not found
[04:38] <ivoks> fluideye give me URL that you were using
[04:38] <fluideye> i'm not sure what you mean
[04:39] <ivoks> black_Nightmare it would work... but 1280x800 is 16:9, and 800x600 is 4:3
[04:39] <cappe> hey guys.. I can't find firestarter in Synaptic? Why is that?
 i followed the how to listed in the forums and was able to get it up (ra0)
[04:39] <black_Nightmare> ivoks....you saying its going to stretch or would it just show black borders?
[04:39] <kestas> cappe you need universe and multiverse
[04:39] <ivoks> black_Nightmare well, my screen can do both
[04:39] <kestas> go to /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:39] <ivoks> black_Nightmare depends on config in BIOS
[04:39] <gokmenzeyrek> slm
[04:39] <gokmenzeyrek> millet
[04:40] <BoD_SWAT> I don't know if anyone can... but what was the dpkg command someone told me here in the chat? (I forgot to enable xchat logging :S)
[04:40] <fluideye> ivoks http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RT2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[04:40] <black_Nightmare> ivoks..hmm since I don't know much into that area...how would a screen look like if you tried to fit 4:3 screen into a 16:9 display?
[04:40] <cappe> kestas, well I can't find those.. I just tried
[04:40] <ivoks> black_Nightmare ugly
[04:40] <kestas> are you in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:41] <ivoks> jesus... this howto need serius work :)
[04:41] <ivoks> fluideye do cd ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module
[04:41] <ivoks> fluideye then: sudo insmod rt2500.ko
[04:41] <fluideye> k
[04:41] <Jormundgand> How do I get my USB headphones to use OSS (which works) as opposed to ALSA (which doesn't)?
[04:41] <black_Nightmare> ivoks....ughh....would there be a way to run ubuntu in 1280x800 but display font sizes/etc rescale as if it was around the same as on a 800x600 instead?
[04:42] <black_Nightmare> like eg with windows .. increasing icon size and using larger system font
[04:42] <alexandre> hi
[04:42] <ivoks> fluideye then: sudo cp ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module/rt2500.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/
[04:42] <ivoks> fluideye copy paste this, don't rewirte
[04:42] <kestas> okay type this: echo "deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe main restricted multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:42] <ivoks> black_Nightmare ?
[04:42] <kestas> then go to synaptic and refresh
[04:42] <kestas> firestarter will be there
[04:43] <black_Nightmare> hmm let me try rephase that question (or did anyone else understand?) ......
[04:43] <ivoks> fluideye then: sudo echo "alias ra0 rt2500" >/etc/modprobe.d/rt2500
[04:43] <cappe> kestas, now I uncommented the universe lines.. Couldn't find anything with multiverse
[04:44] <kestas> screw multiverse then
[04:44] <kestas> refrest
[04:44] <cappe> k
[04:44] <ivoks> fluideye sudo echo "rt2500" > /etc/modules
[04:44] <kestas> *refresh
[04:44] <ivoks> fluideye now do: sudo depmod -a
[04:44] <ivoks> fluideye and sudo modprobe rt2500
[04:45] <black_Nightmare> ivoks...if I went with a 1280x800 screen could I like resize the font/graphics/etc that it'll kinda like look about the similar to as if it was on a 800x600 screen?
[04:45] <ivoks> fluideye wait!
[04:45] <black_Nightmare> understand that or still not?
[04:45] <ivoks> fluideye sudo echo stuff won't work :)
[04:45] <ivoks> black_Nightmare why would you do that?
[04:45] <cappe> aw, sweet thx a bunch kestas now it did work :)
[04:46] <ivoks> black_Nightmare it will look same, only wider
[04:46] <kestas> np :)
[04:46] <black_Nightmare> ivoks...not getting weird stretches but still close to the res I want....ughh.....wait...I think I am sounding weird
[04:46] <black_Nightmare> :p
[04:46] <ivoks> fluideye anyone at home? :)
[04:47] <fluideye>  sudo cp ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module/rt2500.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/  cannot stat: no such file or directory
[04:47] <fluideye> oh, i've got to change daily to 20050510
[04:47] <ivoks> fluideye did u erase that directory?
[04:47] <ivoks> fluideye yeah
[04:47] <fluideye> one second
[04:48] <fluideye> still getting no such file
[04:49] <rottis> how i get my sounds work , i have integrated soundcard but i dont know else..
[04:49] <ivoks> fluideye ls -dl ~/rt2500*
[04:50] <Jormundgand> Could anyone help me get my USB headphones set up and working correctly? They're currently set to use ALSA which doesn't work. I want to set them to use OSS.
[04:51] <fluideye> no file
[04:51] <ivoks> fluideye where did you download that file?
[04:51] <ivoks> fluideye on desktop?
[04:51] <dabaSlon> ivoks, is there an option through cfdisk on every Ubuntu to choose xfs fs?
[04:52] <fluideye> home
[04:52] <ivoks> ok, you don't have any idea what i'm talking about?
[04:52] <ivoks> fluideye then ls -dl ~/rt2500* whould show it
[04:52] <ivoks> fluideye couse ~ means home
[04:52] <ivoks> dabaSlon ?
[04:52] <ivoks> dabaSlon you choose FS whil instaling
[04:53] <dabaSlon> you said yesterday taht that fs is good,
[04:53] <ivoks> dabaSlon you can't convert to other fs
[04:53] <dabaSlon> so that is what it is displayed under?
[04:53] <ivoks> dabaSlon best
[04:53] <manuel_> hallo?
[04:53] <dabaSlon> right best.
[04:53] <ivoks> dabaSlon !?
[04:53] <manuel_> gread it works
[04:53] <manuel_> great
[04:53] <ivoks> fluideye we can go from begining if you want
[04:53] <fluideye> when I try and use cd~/ I have been unsuccessful so I've taken that part out when changing to that directory
[04:53] <dabaSlon> acuse last night I was looking for it....some guy was trying to format a hard drive...it was humorous...
[04:54] <dabaSlon> acuse, cause
[04:54] <ivoks> fluideye cd ~
[04:54] <fluideye> that would be great, i've been trying to do this for two months
[04:54] <fluideye> k
[04:54] <ivoks> fluideye open terminal, you know to do that?
[04:54] <fluideye> I've got it open and have cd ~
[04:54] <jeroen_> ivoks, right mouse button on your desktop
[04:54] <ivoks> lol
[04:54] <ivoks> jeroen_ alt4 x on my :)
[04:55] <ivoks> fluideye ok, enter pwd and gime me output here
[04:55] <jeroen_> ivoks, whatever :p
[04:55] <ivoks> who uses mouse theese days? :)
[04:55] <fluideye>  ivoks /root
[04:55] <black_Nightmare> ivoks..LOL
[04:55] <ivoks> fluideye lol
[04:55] <clausme> wine suports windowsxp
[04:55] <clausme> ?
[04:56] <ivoks> fluideye exit
[04:56] <clausme> i canot configure it
[04:56] <ivoks> fluideye type exit
[04:56] <fluideye> and
[04:56] <ivoks> fluideye now enter pwd
[04:56] <Anti-TT> hello
[04:56] <ivoks> fluideye cd && pwd
[04:56] <klexys> anyone: how do i mount a windows drive at startup time?
[04:57] <fluideye> o.k., i don't know if i'm the but of a joke or what
[04:57] <mdJake> kjsdglkhadjgbaldjngpadiohgapsndgpq3u52935u3ihtpwnbpeirubzg2837r23hfpwnvpsdaihv2198z3r42hrfqpvnspghwe8zrqhf
[04:57] <darkaudit> clausme: edit ~/.wine/config and replace win98 with winxp as the version you want to use
[04:57] <jeroen_> so true, mdJake
[04:57] <mdJake> sdgnpwe41723rzwqngpdigh2w39u12fjhovgnsdkbnapeighqz9rtuqegjspdnhsprdit9uqw
[04:57] <ivoks> fluideye open new terminal and enter whoami
[04:57] <jeroen_> mdJake, I agree with you completely
[04:57] <mdJake> why?
[04:58] <fluideye> what are you wanting to find out
[04:58] <clausme> darkaudit can you give me the exact command line i am noob here
[04:58] <Nermal> vim :)
[04:58] <ivoks> fluideye I want you to do this as user, not root
[04:58] <darkaudit> gedit .wine/config
[04:58] <Fator_Dee> Nermal: don't be hars on him :-)
[04:58] <Nermal> :)
[04:58] <ivoks> fluideye you are root, couse "cd" will get you in your home, and pwd will tell tha path
[04:58] <Fator_Dee> *harsh even
[04:59] <ivoks> fluideye if pwd returns /root, then you are working as root
[04:59] <Nermal> or if you have a # at the prompt
[04:59] <fluideye> ok now I'm at corey@crypto
[04:59] <ivoks> fluideye whoami will give me more help, couse, you don't know anything about UNIX/Linux
[04:59] <jeroen_> mdJake, sfaksfjedfjaskfsfjawer29350cjfaQsfo
[04:59] <Nermal> jeroen_, don't feed him :)
[04:59] <ivoks> fluideye ls -dl ~/rt2500*
[05:00] <mdJake> sorry I didn't behaved
[05:00] <jeroen_> Nermal, sorry; are you the guard?
[05:00] <fluideye> drwxr-xr-x  5 corey corey   4096 2005-05-10 17:00 /home/corey/rt2500-cvs-20050510
[05:00] <fluideye> -rw-r--r--  1 corey corey 298101 2005-05-10 17:00 /home/corey/rt2500-cvs-daily.tar.gz
[05:00] <ivoks> fluideye ok now just copy paste what I tell you
[05:00] <fluideye> k
[05:00] <jeroen_> mdJake, what were you doing?
[05:01] <mdJake> got impatient sorry acted fooly
[05:01] <Fator_Dee> should I open some port on my firewall to get the dictionary program to work?
[05:01] <ivoks> fluideye sudo cp ~/rt2500-cvs-20050510/Module/rt2500.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/
[05:02] <fluideye> ok no output
[05:02] <mdJake> was just curios about installing Java
[05:03] <mdJake> there is quite a lot of ways described
[05:03] <mdJake> in ubuntuforums.org
[05:03] <mdJake> and I got dizzy
[05:03] <ivoks> fluideye it will ask for password, enter it
[05:03] <ivoks> fluideye and?
[05:03] <Jormundgand> Hmm. Seems Linux uses the Alt Gr key in the same way Macs do.
[05:03] <mdJake> which way is the best?
[05:03] <ivoks> fluideye ok... now:
[05:03] <ivoks> fluideye sudo -i
[05:04] <fluideye> k
[05:04] <fluideye> i'm at root
[05:04] <krazi> hi all
[05:04] <ivoks> fluideye echo "rt2500" > /etc/modules
[05:04] <dabaSlon> ivoks, when you get a chance, tell me which number on this list, if any...for that xfs http://pastebin.com/282666
[05:04] <dabaSlon> yo krazi...
[05:04] <ivoks> dabaSlon for linux
[05:04] <krazi> hui, wrong channel :)
[05:04] <fluideye> no output
[05:05] <ivoks> dabaSlon 82... or 83? which was it?
[05:05] <ivoks> fluideye ok
[05:05] <ivoks> fluideye now:
[05:05] <dabaSlon> 83, that is the one
[05:05] <dabaSlon> ?
[05:05] <mdJake> am I on the wrong channel?
[05:05] <ivoks> yes
[05:05] <ivoks> fluideye modprobe rt2500
[05:05] <dabaSlon> oh, ok, thats easy:)
[05:05] <krazi> i wanted to join ubuntu-de^^
[05:05] <Jormundgand> Goooooood grief. That list still has CP/M on it.
[05:05] <dabaSlon> k, hehe
[05:05] <jeroen_> Jormundgand: how doe macs use alt gr
[05:05] <ivoks> fluideye now type in iwconfig
[05:05] <Jormundgand> Example: Alt Gr-4 gives .
[05:06] <ivoks> fluideye it should report wifi card
[05:06] <fluideye> wait module rt2500 not found
[05:06] <ivoks> fluideye ok
[05:06] <fluideye> with modprobe
[05:06] <ivoks> fluideye depmod -a
[05:06] <mdJake> can you tell me then where can I ask q about Ubuntu and Java, mplayer etc?
[05:06] <ivoks> fluideye and then modprobe rt2500
[05:06] <fluideye> k
[05:06] <jeroen_> jormundgand: ehh.. WIndows does sorta the same, right? But with alt gr 5
[05:07] <jeroen_> mdJake: here; or read the wiki on "restricted formats"
[05:07] <fluideye> k
[05:07] <Jormundgand> jeroen_: Windows did euro on Alt Gr 4, but that was the exception, not the rule.
[05:07] <ivoks> fluideye iwconfig
[05:07] <Jormundgand> The only other function the Alt Gr served was making accented vowels.
[05:07] <dabaSlon> mdjake, did you read in the topic: Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask!
[05:07] <erpel> hi
[05:07] <dabaSlon> yo
[05:07] <mdJake> I'm newbie to irc too
[05:07] <fluideye> lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:07] <fluideye> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[05:07] <fluideye> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[05:07] <fluideye> ra0       RT2500 Wireless  ESSID:""
[05:07] <fluideye>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.412 GHz  Bit Rate:1 Mb/s
[05:07] <fluideye>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[05:07] <fluideye>           Encryption key:off
[05:07] <fluideye>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[05:07] <ivoks> no!!!
[05:07] <clausme> how do i install a .deb pagage
[05:07] <clausme> ?
[05:07] <fluideye>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[05:07] <ivoks> don't pase man
[05:07] <fluideye>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[05:08] <mdJake> how to read topic?
[05:08] <ivoks> jesus...
[05:08] <Jormundgand> ivoks: Bit late to say "don't paste".
[05:08] <jeroen_> Jormundgand: alt gr 4 doesn't even work for me :/
[05:08] <erpel> dpkg -i bubb.depp
[05:08] <ivoks> fluideye don't do that ever again
[05:08] <fluideye> ok
[05:08] <erpel> -p
[05:08] <fluideye> sorry
[05:08] <jeroen_> clausme: sudo dpkg -i blabla.deb
[05:08] <dabaSlon> I dont know, in my program, there is a line at the top, mdjake
[05:08] <Jormundgand> jeroen_: Keyboard layout set to UK?
[05:08] <ivoks> Jormundgand well, i wasn't expecting that :)
[05:08] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, negative; US int
[05:08] <mdJake> yes I see that
[05:08] <Jormundgand> You want a UK one. US keyboards don't have Alt Gr.
[05:08] <ivoks> fluideye ok, your wifi is working, and will work every time ubuntu starts now
[05:08] <dabaSlon> mdjake, says topic?
[05:09] <dabaSlon> cool, we have the same program:)
[05:09] <mdJake> topic
[05:09] <fluideye> thank you so very much!
[05:09] <dabaSlon> whats your question?
[05:09] <mdJake> ah "/topic"
[05:09] <fluideye> i'll test tongight when i get home
[05:09] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, I have a logitech access keyboard
[05:09] <dabaSlon> or that...
[05:09] <dabaSlon> :)
[05:09] <ivoks> fluideye now, go to system, administration, netowrking
[05:09] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, it has the buttons like Us int keyboards do; my father has a UK-lay-out, and it's different
[05:09] <ivoks> fluideye and setup your wifi connection
[05:09] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, I do have an Alt Gr
[05:09] <ivoks> fluideye or
[05:10] <Jormundgand> jeroen_: But if you're not set to a keyboard layout which uses Alt Gr it won't do a thing.
[05:10] <mdJake> so, I'm now at #ubuntu right?
[05:10] <Jormundgand> US int has no Alt Gr. UK does.
[05:10] <dabaSlon> mdjake, right:)
[05:10] <ivoks> fluideye nothing... use networking :)
[05:10] <Raptoid> what is ubuntu install for xchat2.4.3
[05:10] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, well, Loitech's being stupid then ;) How could I go about putting it to use
[05:10] <fluideye> ok, can i just let the default settings ride and use dhcp
[05:10] <mdJake> is this Ubuntu Help then?
[05:10] <[eDu] > hi
[05:10] <ivoks> fluideye i don't know
[05:11] <ivoks> fluideye that depends on your access point
[05:11] <jeroen_> mdJake: If you're using Xchat, you'll see on the top of your window the channel topic
[05:11] <dabaSlon> mdjake, current topic is: Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask!
[05:11] <fluideye> i use at home on linksys G and school
[05:11] <dabaSlon> but, yeah, this is a place you can get specific help...
[05:11] <mdJake> I'm using Hoary's X-Chat
[05:11] <ivoks> fluideye go to networking, click on your wireless adapter, choose properties
[05:11] <mdJake> finally, I see
[05:11] <jeroen_> mdJake, I'm aswell; see the thingy in the top?
[05:11] <Jormundgand> jeroen_: Switch to UK layout.
[05:12] <mdJake> yeah
[05:12] <dabaSlon> jeroen_: he got it...
[05:12] <mdJake> Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask! | Archive fixed | Please don't use Breezy yet | FAQ: www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root | Support Information: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ | kubuntu discussion in #kubuntu and #kubuntu-devel | Ubuntu 5.04 is released!  http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-April/000023.html
[05:12] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, blah, those have othere keys than I have; I know
[05:12] <ivoks> fluideye then "this device is conifgured"
[05:12] <dabaSlon> and /topic too.
[05:12] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, my father has UK and it differs
[05:12] <ivoks> fluideye on ESSID choose ur connection, leave it on DHCP and hit ok
[05:12] <Jormundgand> What does the top of the top row of numbers look like? (Shift+1,2,3,4,5...)
[05:12] <mdJake> is this an official channel
[05:12] <jeroen_> !@#$%^&*()
[05:12] <trygvebw> Hi!
[05:12] <mdJake> or should I ask about backports
[05:13] <ivoks> fluideye active ur wireless connection and that's it
[05:13] <jeroen_> trygvebw, HI!
[05:13] <Jormundgand> jeroen_: You have US. UK is !"$%^&*().
[05:13] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, told you ;)
[05:13] <trygvebw> How do i open the firewall to make people able to access websites running on Apache?
[05:13] <regeya> mdJake: congratulations, you've figured out that this is an official irc channel.
[05:13] <ivoks> mdJake nope
[05:13] <jeroen_> My father has UK; with @ in the left top
[05:13] <fluideye> thanks again bro for not making me feel like a complete idiot and walking me through
[05:13] <rottis> !"#%&/()
[05:13] <ivoks> mdJake there isn't official channel
[05:13] <Jormundgand> jeroen_: UK keyboards do not have @ at the left top.
[05:13] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, hmm.. wait a second
[05:13] <ivoks> fluideye np
[05:13] <Jormundgand> @ is above /, above and to the right of .
[05:14] <trygvebw> This is the official channel, afaik...
[05:14] <trygvebw> If it wasn't, it would have to be ##ubuntu...
[05:14] <dabaSlon> mdjake, seriously...just ask, and if noone knows, ask elsewhere...
[05:14] <ivoks> this is community support
[05:14] <mdJake> do you use mplayer?
[05:14] <ivoks> mdJake yes
[05:14] <Fator_Dee> unofficially official channel
[05:14] <regeya> mdJake: do you have a question, or are you going to keep trying to figure out if this is official or not?
[05:14] <trygvebw> ivoks:; Of course, but it is official anyway
[05:14] <regeya> oh boy
[05:14] <ivoks> trygvebw ah, ok...
[05:14] <fluideye> ivoks  one more
[05:14] <regeya> mplayer [nameofmediafile]  HTH
[05:14] <dabaSlon> regeya: :)
[05:14] <mdJake> regeya, about mplayer
[05:14] <dabaSlon> Im like dying to hear what his queston is herer...
[05:15] <dabaSlon> he got our attention...:)
[05:15] <trygvebw> How do i open the firewall to make people able to access websites running on Apache?
[05:15] <fluideye> do i have to activate the ra0 and eth0 whenever i want to use each card
[05:15] <regeya> dabaSlon: 'how you use mplayer'
[05:15] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, hmm.. I always thought his was UK; it's not NL and not US int, stupid Dells ;)
[05:15] <ivoks> trygvebw there is no firewall :)
[05:15] <Raptoid> Azureus settings help zoom x4
[05:15] <dabaSlon> trygvebw: open port 80 for outgoig traffic, and incvoming erquests
[05:15] <Raptoid> ?
[05:15] <mdJake> where should I apt-get mplayer?
[05:15] <trygvebw> dabaSlon, that's the problem: How? :)
[05:15] <ivoks> fluideye when you start ubuntu, driver will load and wifi card will work
[05:15] <dabaSlon> regeya: ?
[05:15] <trygvebw> mdJake, just run "sudo apt-get install mplayer" in a console or install it with Synaptic.
[05:15] <karljp> there is no firewall by default, just no services by default
[05:15] <mdJake> which rep. has the best package nowadays?
[05:16] <Jormundgand> jeroen_: You might try looking up keyboard layouts. Alt Gr is a Europeanism for Euro-only characters like  and .
[05:16] <regeya> dabaSlon: that was his question
[05:16] <trygvebw> mdJake, Universe.
[05:16] <karljp> just install the webserver and you're good to go
[05:16] <ivoks> fluideye then you just have to go to networking and activate interface
[05:16] <mdJake> there's marillat and
[05:16] <fluideye> cool
[05:16] <dabaSlon> regeya: oh...where?
[05:16] <dabaSlon> lol
[05:16] <hac> Is it normal that Openoffice take 30 seconds to start with a p4?
[05:16] <trygvebw> karljp, i have done, but other people can't access it...
[05:16] <mdJake> universe, yes
[05:16] <ivoks> fluideye switching beetwen networks is still crapy in ubuntu, will be better in next version
[05:16] <karljp> are you connected directly to the internet?
[05:16] <trygvebw> The others *easily* corrupt Ubuntu.
[05:16] <trygvebw> *.
[05:16] <trygvebw> karljp, yes
[05:16] <fluideye> so I deactivate eth0 and activate ra0 whenever i want to use AP?
[05:16] <trygvebw> Or no
[05:16] <karljp> are you _sure_ ?
[05:16] <mdJake> I managed to set it up
[05:16] <ivoks> fluideye yes, but...
[05:16] <karljp> can you access your webserver at localhost?
[05:16] <mdJake> and w32codecs too
[05:17] <trygvebw> karljp, yes
[05:17] <dabaSlon> mdjake, do you need to use MPlayer?
[05:17] <ivoks> fluideye you should configure it first every time, so you can select ESSID
[05:17] <trygvebw> localhost works
[05:17] <trygvebw> IP doesn't
[05:17] <karljp> or have you installed a firewall that you're not mentioning?
[05:17] <sorsis_> if i'm using 5.04 livecd, what is password for root?
[05:17] <dabaSlon> or can it be anything that runs movies>?
[05:17] <karljp> what IP doesn;t?
[05:17] <trygvebw> karljp, not afaik
[05:17] <mdJake> dabaSlon, you mean?
[05:17] <trygvebw> karljp, the IP to my computer
[05:17] <mdJake> dabaSlon, It's not good?
[05:17] <ivoks> sorsis_ there is no password for root
[05:17] <fluideye> i'm not sure i follow configure it first every time
[05:17] <trygvebw> 193.216.24.197
[05:17] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, I know.
[05:17] <ivoks> fluideye first configure connection, then activate
[05:17] <mdJake> I tried totem-xine
[05:17] <dabaSlon> no, I mean, its just a little harder to set up, just cause you have to get it from some repo that tries to authentcate, and sometimes it requires more work, thats all...
[05:17] <fluideye> ivoks  k
[05:18] <karljp> tryg: how are you connected to the net?
[05:18] <ivoks> fluideye you should do that every time you change enviorment (school, workplace, home, etc...)
[05:18] <mdJake> but there I cannot set subtitle properties
[05:18] <karljp> through a home modem/router thing?
[05:18] <dabaSlon> mdJake: I have instructions on how to install MPlayer, step by step...
[05:18] <trygvebw> ivoks, WLAN/ADSL
[05:18] <Jormundgand> I'll ask my question again now. How do I get my USB headphones working? They're set to use ALSA which fails to work, and I want them to use OSS which does.
[05:18] <ivoks> fluideye in next version of ubuntu, that will be much better
[05:18] <trygvebw> ivoks, two routers, the ADSL one and the WLAN one
[05:18] <dabaSlon> mdJake: yeah, maybe there are none, maybe there are too...
[05:18] <wazquis> anyone know how to enable ircomm instead of sir, when i start irda-utils it automatickly loads the sir driver...when i ran mandrake i used ircomm and it worked...but i can't make my IR work now..anyone?
[05:18] <ivoks> trygvebw ?!
[05:18] <fluideye> cool, i'm liking ubuntu so far, was using mandrake 10.1
[05:18] <trygvebw> ivoks, ?
[05:18] <karljp> so have you got portforwarding set up on one of them to send http to your machine?
 ivoks, two routers, the ADSL one and the WLAN one
[05:18] <ivoks> ?!
[05:18] <trygvebw> yes
[05:18] <mdJake> dabaSlon, I have mplayer but behaves strangely
[05:19] <dabaSlon> mdJake: areyou trying to get MPlayer, then? Is that your mission?
[05:19] <karljp> doesn't sound like it :)
[05:19] <dabaSlon> like what?
[05:19] <ivoks> trygvebw what?
[05:19] <_nate_sleeping> ISPs sometimes block incoming port 80
[05:19] <trygvebw> karljp, how? :D didn't know i had to do that ;)
[05:19] <karljp> also, that means you're not "dirctly connected to the ne"
[05:19] <trygvebw> karljp, well
[05:19] <ivoks> trygvebw what are you trying to tell me?
[05:19] <trygvebw> ivoks, nothing :)
[05:19] <mdJake> dabaSlon, e.g. can't open a video with it when another instance is already open
[05:20] <dabaSlon> maybe has to do with video output plugin...
[05:20] <mdJake> e.g it cries for subtitle font
[05:20] <trygvebw> So how do i set up port-forwarding?
[05:20] <karljp> depends on your home router
[05:20] <ivoks> trygvebw on router
[05:20] <dabaSlon> on your router...
[05:20] <mdJake> that's why I asked which is the best version for Hoary now
[05:20] <fluideye> ivoks, it seems that it ubuntu runs my Averatec 3260 hotter than does xp, heard that before?
[05:20] <trygvebw> Skyr@cer PRO WBR 654
[05:20] <trygvebw> Router ^
[05:20] <trygvebw> WLAN
[05:20] <dabaSlon> point the browser to your router web interface, and play around
[05:20] <trygvebw> ok :)
[05:20] <trygvebw> thanks :)
[05:20] <ivoks> fluideye I don't know what are you talking about... what is averatec?
[05:21] <fluideye> notebook
[05:21] <ivoks> ah...
[05:21] <karljp> probably just the adsl one tryg
[05:21] <mdJake> I would like totem-xine if I could set the subtitle font props (size/font)
[05:21] <dabaSlon> trygvebw: you know, like, 192.168.0.1...
[05:21] <trygvebw> karljp, nah
[05:21] <trygvebw> dabaSlon, 'course :)
[05:21] <karljp> the wlan is probably just echoing
[05:21] <ivoks> fluideye wouldn't know...
[05:21] <mdJake> can you tell me how
[05:21] <dabaSlon> k
[05:21] <ivoks> I don't use windows
[05:21] <trygvebw> karljp, it isn't the ADSL router, because it worked before i got the WLAN router...
[05:21] <fluideye> ivoks k
[05:21] <karljp> ok then :)
[05:21] <trygvebw> :)
[05:22] <ivoks> time to go
[05:22] <ivoks> bye all
[05:22] <dabaSlon> bye
[05:22] <IcemanV9> fluideye: xp can do one thing at a time, but ubuntu can do many things at once ... therefore, it gets hot.
[05:22] <trygvebw> Port Forwarding = Virtual Server?
[05:22] <IcemanV9> :P
[05:22] <karljp> probably
[05:23] <trygvebw> ok :)
[05:23] <fluideye> nothing to worry about though?
[05:23] <luvdemheels> Does anyone here have any detailed instructions on setting up 915resolution?
[05:23] <mdJake> dabaSlon, do you have mozilla-mplayer set up?
[05:23] <karljp> mozillamplayer is crap
[05:23] <IcemanV9> correct, fluideye
[05:23] <karljp> it crashes, no play controls
[05:23] <mdJake> not the new 2.80cvs
[05:23] <fluideye> icemanv9 k
[05:23] <karljp> dies if it underruns the buffer
[05:23] <IcemanV9> my notebook gets hot when i was doing a lot of things
[05:23] <mdJake> but crashes - it's true
[05:24] <karljp> well,, the one in apt sucks
[05:24] <mdJake> when I press back button
[05:24] <karljp> and the firefox crashing is pretty unacceptable
[05:24] <mdJake> karljp, you use what?
[05:24] <IcemanV9> fluideye: you'll love Ubuntu once you get used to it
[05:24] <karljp> I complain that they all suck :(
[05:24] <fluideye> icemanv9  i'm a newbie and don't know that i'm asking ubuntu to do many things
[05:24] <fluideye> icemanv9  :^)
[05:24] <karljp> none of them are as reliable as mediaplayer on win32
[05:24] <IcemanV9> fluideye: been there done that
[05:24] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I set up a week ago and I love it
[05:24] <IcemanV9> ;)
[05:25] <IcemanV9> mdJake: same here - two weeks ago
[05:25] <mdJake> karljp, what do you use for streaming media?
[05:25] <luvdemheels> I take it nobody has used 915resolution??
[05:25] <trygvebw> What should the settings in "Virtual Server" be? It's asking for "Protocol", "Private Port", "Public Port" and "LAN Server". What should they be set to?
[05:25] <mdJake> IcemanV9, what distrib before?
[05:25] <fluideye> icemanv9  recommend any apps?
[05:25] <trygvebw> gnomebaker is nice
[05:26] <mdJake> back again
[05:26] <IcemanV9> mdJake: xp freebsd (now, ubuntu)
[05:26] <franklin50> trygvebw: Public port is the outside port, Private is the internal, protocol is either TCP / UDP  Lan server is the IP you want forwarded to
[05:26] <mdJake> IcemanV9, no linux before? :)
[05:27] <IcemanV9> fluideye: check out http://ubuntuguide.org/
[05:27] <trygvebw> franklin50, well, i still doesn't have *any* idea of what they should be set to...
[05:27] <mdJake> fluideye, and ubuntuforums
[05:27] <mdJake> fluideye, too
[05:27] <franklin50> OK, what are you trying to do, exactly?
[05:27] <IcemanV9> mdJake: nope, straight bsd for a long time
[05:27] <fluideye> icemanv9 k
[05:27] <fluideye> mdJake k
[05:27] <klexys> has anyone had any problems loading a serial-ata drive from fstab?
[05:27] <difeta> how can i setup a pdf printer?
[05:27] <mdJake> fluideye, very good - espec the HOWTOs part of forums
[05:28] <trygvebw> franklin50, i'm trying to make my Apache server work... :)
[05:28] <IcemanV9> mdJake: finally found something that ACTUALLY work "out of the box" so my wife can use it just like xp
[05:28] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I use(d) a Hungarian distro before
[05:28] <trygvebw> I was instructed to set up port-forwarding since i have a router.
[05:28] <mdJake> IcemanV9, but loved Ubuntu the second day
[05:29] <IcemanV9> mdJake: now, she enjoys it as long as everything works .. like all plugins in firefox
[05:29] <mdJake> IcemanV9, when I managed to set up Beagle for example
[05:29] <mdJake> IcemanV9, or DC++ under Wine
[05:29] <Hackmo> Hey, can anyone help me set up my sagem usb 800 E2T?
[05:29] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i have been meaning to test Wine thingie yet
[05:29] <mdJake> IcemanV9, what plugins do you have under Firefox?
[05:30] <IcemanV9> mdJake: all of them - java, adobe reader, realplayer, mplayer & flash
[05:30] <mdJake> IcemanV9, so
[05:30] <mdJake> IcemanV9, java
[05:30] <mdJake> IcemanV9, which way you set it up?
[05:30] <IcemanV9> mdJake: my wife loves Yahoo! games (it runs on java)
[05:31] <mdJake> IcemanV9, from an Ubuntu package?
[05:31] <IcemanV9> mdJake: installed java according to ubuntuguide.org; it works as it should be
[05:32] <Fator_Dee> IIRC you can get java from backports
[05:32] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i did not have to fiddle with it; thanks goodness
[05:32] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, but then I will get the Firefox plugin?
[05:33] <Fator_Dee> ummm, dunno :-/
[05:33] <karljp> trygvebw, did you work out the virtual server settings?
[05:33] <mdJake> anybody using OO.o 2.0 here?
[05:33] <zoddan> cant get airsnort to work :(
[05:33] <Fator_Dee> essentially it's the same package that's been packaged to .deb, so I'd say yes
[05:33] <trygvebw> karljp, franklin50 is helping me :)
[05:34] <karljp> public port 80, private port 80, lan ip the 192.168.* address you have locally.
[05:34] <trygvebw> mdJake, yeah
[05:34] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it doesn't work?
[05:34] <karljp> ok, cool :)
[05:34] <mdJake> I haven't exprienced with it
[05:34] <mdJake> Is it stable enough?
[05:34] <mdJake> worths trying?
[05:34] <IcemanV9> mdJake: OO.o 2.0 works just fine on my box
[05:35] <nosilver4u> ok, somehow breezy killed my sound
[05:35] <nosilver4u> i'm getting a: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_state:1267: No soundcards found...'
[05:35] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i have written a few letters already, updated my resume - so yeah, it works
[05:35] <nosilver4u> any ideas?
[05:36] <mdJake> what I like in Ubuntu that it is from Debian still the programs so fresh
[05:36] <karljp> sif
[05:36] <mdJake> a reak Desktop distro
[05:36] <karljp> programs are only fresh if get into breezy
[05:36] <mdJake> real
[05:36] <karljp> no updates in hoary
[05:36] <mdJake> but heard Breezy is too early for now
[05:37] <karljp> yeah
[05:37] <karljp> exatly
[05:37] <trygvebw> I'm using Breezy ATM.
[05:37] <karljp> ubuntu is just a much more useful woody
[05:37] <IcemanV9> mdJake: agreed; say no more :)
[05:37] <ernstp> does sudo work after you
[05:37] <trygvebw> It was broken till some weeks ago, but it's mostly fixed now
[05:37] <karljp> all the benefits of testing, with less of the downsides, and without being as "stable" as woody
[05:37] <ernstp> 've written sudo -s for you guys?
[05:37] <Hackmo> trygvebw: what's breezy like?
[05:37] <karljp> just like hoary, only with new libs :)
[05:37] <trygvebw> Hackmo, nice, lots of updates, but unstable :)
[05:38] <mdJake> can anybody tell me: am I able to "ghost" a Hoary install with tar?
[05:38] <mdJake> I mean
[05:38] <mdJake> can I setup a Hoary for my needs
[05:38] <mdJake> then simply tar it
[05:38] <ernstp> could someone post the interesting stuff from their sudoers file?
[05:38] <mdJake> and bring it to a different computer too?
[05:38] <trygvebw> You don't ghost it, you dd it.
[05:38] <mdJake> I said "ghost"
[05:38] <trygvebw> dd if=/dev/sourceHD of=/file
[05:38] <mdJake> means tar -cvjf ...
[05:38] <trygvebw> And when you want to bring it back:
[05:39] <trygvebw> dd if=/file of=/dev/toHD
[05:39] <sorsis_> is there way to get shoutcast streams work on linux?
[05:39] <sorsis_> i mean in rhythmbox
[05:39] <petemc> sorsis_: xmms or beep play them ok
[05:39] <ernstp> ping
[05:39] <mdJake> so can it be done either with dd or tarM
[05:39] <mdJake> ?
[05:39] <trygvebw> dd is best.
[05:39] <mindmedic> sorsis_, have you checked the RADIO in the left bar
[05:39] <mdJake> sorsis_, I think streamtuner
[05:39] <mdJake> trygvebw, not when you have a different sized partition
[05:40] <trygvebw> mdJake, course... :)
[05:40] <trygvebw> forgot that ;)
[05:40] <IcemanV9> size of disk space doesn't matter if you used dd?
[05:40] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I think it matters
[05:40] <IcemanV9> nevermind .. mdJake just mentioned it
[05:40] <ernstp> really, could someone just look in their /etc/sudoers file really quickly for me?
[05:41] <trygvebw> ernstp, sure
[05:41] <mdJake> I think after dd/tar I do a dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:41] <IcemanV9> i'd love to try that .. i want the same setup on this box to another box with a smaller disk
[05:41] <ernstp> trygvebw, thanks!
[05:41] <mdJake> and Hoary is running on the other machine?
[05:41] <sorsis_> mindmedic: yes. but there is only 2 radios. and if i put link to shoutcast radio from web to it, it doesn't understand it. i think there should be filename.mp3 or something at end but all shoutcast links go like this http://net.radio:666/
[05:41] <trygvebw> ernstp, for what? or should i just copy it?
[05:41] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I suggest taring the whole /
[05:42] <mdJake> then untar on the other (same filesystem) partition
[05:42] <sorsis_> mindmedic: would there be more radios if would install ubuntu and update everything?
[05:42] <mdJake> IcemanV9, after reinstall Grub
[05:42] <ih8evil> How do I go about installing libgdk-pixbuf2 and libssl0.9.6 ?
[05:43] <resiak> Anyone feel like running `dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1`, please?
[05:43] <IcemanV9> mdJake: duly noted; will try that after lunch
[05:43] <trygvebw> sudo apt-get install PACKAGES
[05:43] <timmow> is it possible to have my cardbus network card load the ndiswrapper module on insertion?  I am looking at hotplug, but don't really know where to start
[05:43] <mdJake> I'm asking about the transferability of Hoary because I heard recently that not every kernel is capable of it
[05:43] <karljp> ii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
[05:43] <mindmedic> sorsis_, menu "musik" add radio something
[05:43] <mdJake> some kernels have the root partition burned inside them
[05:43] <mdJake> I hope Hoary's isn't
[05:43] <mindmedic> sorsis_, and you must have mp3 support
[05:43] <karljp> timow: try apt-gettting laptop-net
[05:44] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: PING?
[05:44] <mdJake> IcemanV9, would you like to hear how do I do it (with another distro but will try with Hoary too)
[05:44] <resiak> karljp: Ta.
[05:44] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: yes?
[05:44] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i will find out soon enough; another box can be rebuild many times .. not this box
[05:44] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: oh, you are here. can you reop me?
[05:44] <timmow> thanks
[05:45] <sorsis_> mindmedic: thanks
[05:45] <sorsis_> mdJake: thanks
[05:45] <difeta> I've setup a pdf printer, but every time I  try to print to it the printer says that it is off and nothing gets done. Any ideas?
[05:45] <mdJake> sorsis_, streamtuner is cool, yeah?
[05:45] <sorsis_> mdJake: seems like
[05:45] <Jormundgand> How do I get my USB headphones working? They're set to use ALSA which fails to work, and I want them to use OSS which does.
[05:46] <mdJake> sorsis_, check out streamripper too
[05:46] <mdJake> sorsis_, can record radios
[05:46] <mdJake> sorsis_, to mp3s
[05:46] <sorsis_> mdJake: ok. i'll do that
[05:47] <mdJake> trygvebw, you said you're using the Breezy?
[05:47] <trygvebw> mdJake, yes
[05:47] <mdJake> trygvebw, and have you got the Beagle/Best
[05:47] <trygvebw> mdJake, yeah
[05:47] <njoka> Da Breezy
[05:47] <trygvebw> Beagle is working nicely
[05:47] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: ?
[05:47] <mdJake> trygvebw, is it working for you?
[05:47] <Amaranth> oh
[05:47] <trygvebw> mdJake, yeah
[05:47] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: thanks
[05:47] <trygvebw> mdJake, it works nicely :)
[05:48] <mdJake> trygvebw, I tried it on Hoary
[05:48] <IcemanV9> Beagle? what is it?
[05:48] <mdJake> trygvebw, but my fs was reiser
[05:48] <trygvebw> My FS is reiser, too.
[05:48] <mdJake> IcemanV9, desktop search tool (similar to MacOSX stuff)
[05:48] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: no problems, I'm off to sleep now (hopefully)
[05:49] <yonil> is there a program that lets you edit text but is good for describing code ? like, one that can put code inside boxes so its organized, and maybe even color it ..
[05:49] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: ok, good night
[05:49] <mdJake> trygvebw, the HOWTO says
[05:49] <mdJake> trygvebw, I should mount my /home with user_xattrs option
[05:49] <trygvebw> yes?
[05:49] <mdJake> trygvebw, I did that but Beagle didn't find anything
[05:49] <trygvebw> hm....
[05:49] <trygvebw> Wait, i'll test
[05:50] <mdJake> trygvebw, I started the beagled BTW
[05:50] <trygvebw> Let it run for some moments. It needs to index your home dir first.
[05:50] <ernstp> yeah, beagled in brezzy is nice!
[05:50] <franklin50> How long does Beagle take to do its first index?
[05:50] <ernstp> "a while" :-)
[05:50] <trygvebw> Nah, you're right, in fact... It doesn't work :(
[05:51] <franklin50> lol
[05:51] <trygvebw> It finds web places, but not files :/
[05:51] <ernstp> make sure you install all dependencies, like evolution-cil and gsf-cil
[05:51] <franklin50> Is it fairly quick after its first index? (Live-updating?)
[05:51] <trygvebw> franklin50, yeah
[05:51] <trygvebw> ernstp, course
[05:51] <ernstp> trygvebw, works here
[05:51] <mdJake> ernstp, where can I find info about Breezy/Hoary+Beagle?
[05:51] <ernstp> upgraded to 2.6.12 so I have /dev/inotify
[05:51] <trygvebw> ernstp, well, you're running ext3?
[05:52] <ernstp> trygvebw, yes
[05:52] <trygvebw> ah
[05:52] <trygvebw> I'm running ReiserFS
[05:52] <mdJake> trygvebw, I thougth about that
[05:52] <ernstp> /dev/sda10      /home           ext3    noatime,user_xattr         0       2
[05:52] <trygvebw> hm
[05:52] <mdJake> trygvebw, check your .reiserfs_priv directory
[05:52] <trygvebw> ok, i'll check :)
[05:52] <dead^^> hi. does anyone here play guitar, or could strait up tell me how to install DGuitar?
[05:52] <ernstp> doesn't resierfs have extended attributes?
[05:53] <dead^^> I have problems with it
[05:53] <mdJake> trygvebw, maybe there will be info about xattr there
[05:53] <trygvebw> ok
[05:53] <ernstp> mdJake, checked the wiki?
[05:53] <franklin50> dead^^: I play, but I've never heard of DGuitar - what is it?
[05:53] <mdJake> ernstp, yes and set it up for Hoary
[05:53] <mdJake> ernstp, but on a reiserfs
[05:53] <mdJake> ernstp, now I have ext3
[05:54] <mdJake> ernstp, but haven't tried it yet
[05:54] <ernstp> mdJake, tried what?
[05:54] <ernstp> mdJake, ok, so you formatted and you're going to reinstall?
[05:54] <mdJake> ernstp, Beagle (I had to reinstall - couldn't switch my root fs otherwise)
[05:54] <Geezer041> Good morning. Would anybody be able to help me install Americas Army from a .run?
[05:54] <dead^^> fanklin50, it's Guitar Pro like program wich shows tab and notes and plays them same time on midiplayer. it's hard to explain =P
[05:54] <trygvebw> Geezer041, sure :)
[05:54] <Geezer041> tk
[05:55] <[a-z] {2}> hi
[05:55] <dead^^> fanklin50, are familiar with the Guitar Pro on Windows?
[05:55] <mdJake> ernstp, is Beagle cool BTW
[05:55] <ernstp> mdJake, cool indeed!
[05:55] <consumer> I'm wondering where I would find the logs from either firestarter or iptables for intrusion attempts ?
[05:55] <mdJake> ernstp, I can't imagine it how it works
[05:55] <consumer> or just connection attempts would be good
[05:55] <mdJake> ernstp, how can it do things
[05:55] <christie-kun> where can i find the list of commands ubuntu goes through when starting up?
[05:55] <ernstp> wish it would do a normal google search also..?
[05:56] <dead^^> fanklin50, fcuk, i meant: "are YOU familiar..."
[05:56] <ernstp> christie-kun, /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc*.d/
[05:56] <ernstp> mdJake, do what things?
[05:56] <mdJake> ernstp, I checked the videos about Beagle
[05:57] <mdJake> ernstp, I had to see it
[05:57] <ernstp> mdJake, yeah, and it works just like that :-)
[05:57] <mdJake> ernstp, tomorrow I'll give it a try
[05:57] <ernstp> mdJake, gl!
[05:57] <timmow> I am confused.  I want to load/unload the driver for my wlan card when it is inserted removed.  Do I need to do that throught the networking system or hotplug?
[05:57] <ernstp> mdJake, remember to install libdbus-cil
[05:58] <dead^^> but, my original question was: does anyone here know how to install DGuitar?
[05:58] <ernstp> mdJake, the deb doesn't depend on it but beagle needs it. should go file a bug...
[05:58] <christie-kun> what order does it go through those scripts?
[05:58] <mdJake> I used this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31518
[05:59] <mdJake> ernstp, I used this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31518
[05:59] <dockane> i have got problems acitivating dma mode for my ide drive : http://pastebin.com/282699
[05:59] <dockane> is that a chipset problem ?
[05:59] <mdJake> ernstp, libdbus-cil ?
[05:59] <mdJake> ernstp, I know about dbus
[06:00] <mdJake> ernstp, but what is cil?
[06:00] <rj_> root@sc01:~ # ssh root@192.168.2.201
[06:00] <rj_> ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.201 port 22: No such process
[06:00] <rj_> root@sc01:~ #
[06:00] <rj_> why would that happen?
[06:00] <rj_> theres no iptables
[06:00] <ernstp> mdJake, ah, there's .deb packages for everything in breezy now!
[06:01] <ernstp> mdJake, and dbus-cil is just the Mono/C# bindings for dbus
[06:01] <mdJake> rj_, r u sure you want to connect as root?
[06:01] <rj_> mdJake: yes, thats not the issue.
[06:01] <dead^^> erm, hi all. does anyone here know how to install DGuitar? i have problems with it and the readme is useless =(
[06:01] <rj_> mdJake: i'am a experienced admin - it's ok ;)
[06:02] <mdJake> ernstp, it's not on the Wiki Page
[06:02] <ernstp> rj_, no such process... wierd.
[06:02] <ernstp> mdJake, they uploaded it like yesterday
[06:02] <mdJake> rj_, so not an sshd_config issue :)
[06:02] <rj_> ernstp: exactly -- thats crazy..
[06:02] <rj_> mdJake: nope.
[06:02] <ernstp> mdJake, the wiki is a wiki, add it :-P
[06:02] <christie-kun> ernstp: what order does it go through those startup scripts?
[06:02] <rj_> ernstp
[06:03] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc # ping 192.168.2.201
[06:03] <rj_> connect: No such process
[06:03] <mdJake> rJ_, and sshd is running I bet
[06:03] <rj_> it's weirder..
[06:03] <ernstp> christie-kun, the scripts are in /etc/init.d
[06:03] <rj_> mdJake: yep -- it seems more ip related somehow.
[06:03] <ernstp> christie-kun, the order is /etc/rc1-5 and then by the number in there
[06:04] <christie-kun> ernstp: does it execute the ones in inti.d in alphabetical order?
[06:04] <mdJake> rj_, is this a remote server?
[06:04] <rj_> mdJake: no - local.
[06:04] <sig> rj_: does that local machine have ssh server installed?
[06:04] <ernstp> christie-kun, no, that's just where the scrips are. if they're executed and in what order is descided by the symlinks in /etc/rc1-5.d folders
[06:05] <sig> the one your trying to ssh into
[06:05] <rj_> sig_ they both have ssh server installed
[06:05] <sig> but are they running?
[06:05] <rj_> sig: also look it's more than ssh i can't ping without getting the same error
[06:05] <rj_> sig: yes
[06:05] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc # ping 192.168.2.201
[06:05] <rj_> connect: No such process
[06:05] <mdJake> rj_, ps aux|grep sshd
[06:05] <rj_> same connect error
[06:05] <ernstp> rj_, telnet .... 22 ?
[06:05] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc # ps aux|grep sshd
[06:05] <rj_> root     13472  0.0  0.0   3472  1436 ?        Ss   May07   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:06] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc # telnet 192.168.2.201 22
[06:06] <rj_> Trying 192.168.2.201...
[06:06] <rj_> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No such process
[06:06] <sig> rj_: did you follow the howto @ http://ubuntuguide.org ?
[06:06] <sig> why are you in /etc?
[06:06] <sig> just curious
[06:06] <rj_> sig: i was setting up nfs :)
[06:06] <ernstp> rj_, right, something is really broken! connect() doesn't work on you rsystem? but xchat is?
[06:06] <consumer> has anyone here set up snort on their PPP interface?
[06:06] <rj_> no -- im not ircing on the same machine
[06:07] <ernstp> rj_, ah.
[06:07] <rj_> im on my workstation right atm.
[06:07] <ernstp> rj_, does elinks work?
[06:07] <rj_> ernstp: i'd hafta install it.
[06:07] <rj_> let me reboot it and see if that fixes it.
[06:07] <ernstp> rj_, go ahead :-P
[06:07] <rj_> like windows :(
[06:07] <mdJake> windows, whats that? :)
[06:08] <rj_> glass boxes in your house
[06:08] <dead^^> :)
[06:08] <ernstp> rj_, only, rebooting never fixes anything on linux. but you can't stop trying
[06:08] <mindspin> lets the sunshine in
[06:08] <mdJake> without curtains
[06:08] <rj_> ernstp: no, i've had it fix things.. like kernel panics
[06:08] <rj_> :)
[06:09] <Scorpinf> i have a problem, i cant delete 3 item's in the trashcan, it complains about my rights. how can i solve this?
[06:09] <rj_> Scorpinf: restore them
[06:10] <ernstp> rj_, would be cool if you could kexec reboot, so the system thought it rebooted but the power never went off...
[06:10] <mdJake> we have a small network here at home and if I create a samba share on one of the PCs will it appear in Hoary in Places/Network or I need to mount it before?
[06:10] <mindmedic> Scorpinf, empty your .Trash/ folder as root.
[06:10] <rj_> hehe
[06:10] <ernstp> Scorpinf, sudo rm -r .Trash/*
[06:10] <Scorpinf> ok
[06:10] <ernstp> mindmedic, can't really do that..?
[06:12] <mindspin> @mdJake on kubuntu it appears in the filemanager
[06:13] <mindspin> as share
[06:14] <dabaSlon> hey, is noone talking, or am I offlilne?
[06:14] <dabaSlon> ko
[06:14] <dabaSlon> ok
[06:15] <nosilver4u> no one is talking
[06:15] <nosilver4u> crap, i just talked
[06:16] <mindspin> I talk with my computer...
[06:16] <rapha_> Hi all!
[06:16] <mindspin> or better to my computer
[06:16] <rj_> ernstp: doing a reboot worked
[06:16] <rj_> ernstp: :/
[06:16] <Rubin> whats the command to force a fsck at the next boot?
[06:17] <rapha_> I just put my SanDisk from my digital camera into the card reader, but Ubuntu shows only Junk on it. The Camera correctly sees the pictures still though...
[06:17] <Rubin> rapha_: junk?
[06:18] <rapha_> Rubin: Wierd stuff.... one file for example is named ".,"
[06:18] <ih8evil> I'm new to Linux. Is there any way for me to change each individual background image for the four workspaces, or do they all need to be the same?
[06:18] <Rubin> huh
[06:18] <Rubin> doens the card show up normally in windows?
[06:18] <ernstp> rj_, eh... well... nice!
[06:19] <ih8evil> whoa.
[06:19] <rj_> net split
[06:19] <rj_> :/
[06:20] <ih8evil> Is there any way for me to change each individual background image for the four workspaces, or do they all need to be the same?
[06:20] <dabaSlon> good question:)
[06:21] <ih8evil> :)
[06:21] <patrickxb> ih8evil:  you're using metacity for your window manager?
[06:21] <pelle> anyone got initng working on ubuntu?
[06:22] <ih8evil> patrickxb, Um, I'm not sure. I'm new to Linux
[06:22] <mdJake> I've added the Backports repo (I needed some packs from there - w32codecs) and now update manager wants to update my gimp and my gaim - which I wouldn't like to
[06:22] <trygvebw> ih8evil, then you're using Metacity :)
[06:22] <Fator_Dee> http://wallpapoz.sourceforge.net/ but don't know how this works, haven't used it
[06:22] <mdJake> can I tell somehow not to upgrade from Backports?
[06:22] <ih8evil> trygvebw, heh, ok, thank you
[06:22] <pelle> anyone got Luminocity on ubuntu?
[06:22] <trygvebw> pelle, yes
[06:22] <mdJake> beside # it in my sources list?
[06:22] <ih8evil> patrickxb, I guss I am.
[06:22] <trygvebw> pelle, it's nice :)
[06:22] <dabaSlon> mdJake: well...
[06:23] <ih8evil> *guess
[06:23] <pelle> trygvebw, luminocity?
[06:23] <dabaSlon> taht would be a good place...
[06:23] <trygvebw> pelle, yeah
[06:23] <dabaSlon> that is what I am gonna do after mono finishes installing now..
[06:23] <pelle> trygvebw, It takes a lot of fiddling around to get it to work, right?
[06:23] <Fator_Dee> mdJake: theres a button on the down left corner, from there press status and then marked changes, and then you can just click them of not to be updated
[06:23] <dabaSlon> thanks for the link:)
[06:23] <trygvebw> pelle, not a lot really
[06:24] <trygvebw> the instructions are very good
[06:24] <Fator_Dee> mdJake: sorry, it was in custom -> marked changes
[06:24] <pelle> are there packages somewhere? .deb, .tar.gz?
[06:24] <trygvebw> pelle, nope
[06:24] <trygvebw> Not afaik, at least
[06:24] <pelle> trygvebw, so - is it useable? does it crash alot?
[06:24] <patrickxb> ih8evil:  don't think it's possible... (http://lwn.net/Articles/114983/)
[06:24] <trygvebw> pelle, it's not slow, it doesn't crash a lot
[06:24] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, but it's the same as # :)
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> mdJake: but that's only if you update by synaptic though, which seems to not answer your question :-\
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> well, it's not quite
[06:25] <trygvebw> _BUT_ it runs in a window only.
[06:25] <pelle> trygvebw, what g.card are you using?
[06:25] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, I removed Backports then
[06:25] <trygvebw> pelle, ATI Radeon X300
[06:26] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, thought there may be an option to simply discard them
[06:26] <pelle> trygvebw, thats sort of top-of-the-line, right?
[06:26] <Fator_Dee> but it's not a biggie to disable/enable the backports repo when you need something from there
[06:26] <trygvebw> pelle, nope, it's a very cheap card :)
[06:26] <trygvebw> It's the cheapest ATI PCIE card.
[06:26] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, yes, true - but I'm curious you know :)
[06:27] <pelle> trygvebw, well, I'm using an integrated S3 virge or something. at least it does 2d ;)
[06:27] <trygvebw> ah
[06:27] <Geezer041> Would anybody be able to help me sort out my graphics?
[06:27] <trygvebw> It should work, but *very* slow
[06:27] <K_Dallas> so it is distribution time :) got my CDs today and going to send them out, people are really liking ubuntu
[06:28] <pelle> trygvebw, Do you know what their dev-plan is? Are they going for a usable / easy to install version in the near future?
[06:28] <stormy73034> ?
[06:28] <trygvebw> pelle, no, they are going to merge with the main Metacity window manager.
[06:28] <Flav> the "whiptail" package needs to update its description (it was copied from the "dialog" package and never changed) - how can i tell who the package maintainer is?
[06:28] <Flav> ah, nevermind
[06:28] <pelle> trygvebw, ok. see yah
[06:29] <patrickxb> ih8evil:  have you seen this?  http://wallpapoz.sourceforge.net/
[06:30] <dr_willis> anyone off hand know what the word   "Hemsida" means? filling out a form on a german (i think) site. :P and it wants that info.
[06:30] <Seveas> dr_willis, www.freetranslation.com :)
[06:30] <dr_willis> I figured out the address/email/account/password blanks. :P
[06:30] <dr_willis> Seveas,  bablefish ddent even know what it ment.
[06:30] <mdJake> GNOME question: by mounting my hds with the mount-option user I managed to show them up in computer:/// But can I control how Gnome name them: I don't like the defaults (e.g. 4 GB data storage, 20GB data storage)
[06:30] <dr_willis> it is german?
[06:31] <Seveas> mdJake, gnome doesn't name them...
[06:31] <mdJake> Seveas, then hal name them?
[06:31] <dr_willis> Seveas,  heh - it says Hemsida  translated to english is --> Hemsida
[06:32] <Seveas> mdJake, they ar fat or ntfs disks right?
[06:32] <rapha_> Rubin: I don't have Windows. It worked normally just yesterday. Could try one of the Windows machines at work though...
[06:32] <mdJake> Seveas, fat32, ntfs, ext3
[06:32] <mdJake> Seveas, and reiserfs - any type
[06:33] <Seveas> well, fat32 and ntfs have volume labels
[06:33] <mdJake> Seveas, all of them named after the size
[06:33] <Seveas> dunno about the others
[06:33] <Seveas> but why don;t you simply integrate them in your filesystem?
[06:33] <mdJake> Seveas, I know that and my every volume has labels
[06:33] <IcemanV9> could not see the picture (movie (dvd) is running on the another box) thru vnc -- all i see is blue screen
[06:33] <mdJake> even reiser and ext3
[06:34] <mdJake> IcemanV9, why use vnc? use X
[06:34] <mdJake> Seveas, I mounted them under /mnt
[06:34] <mdJake> Seveas, so I see them there
[06:35] <mdJake> Seveas, but the computer:/// Gnome place is so comfortable and user friendly
[06:35] <Seveas> ah
[06:35] <IcemanV9> mdJake: like display:1 or ??
[06:35] <Seveas> i find that windows-ish
[06:35] <mdJake> IcemanV9, yes remote-X
[06:36] <mdJake> Seveas, I have friends who use Linux
[06:36] <IcemanV9> mdJake: is there a howto? never done it before
[06:36] <mdJake> IcemanV9, sudo gdmconfig on the "server" computer
[06:37] <mdJake> IcemanV9, Security tab
[06:38] <evilmegaman> how do I change the opengl vendor string thing when I do fglrx info? because it should say ATI I think
[06:38] <mdJake> IcemanV9, remove pipe near "disable TCP for remote X connection"
[06:38] <mdJake> IcemanV9, (I have localized Ubuntu, but will be sg like that)
[06:38] <agent> anyone know of a how-to on how to create deb files (specific to Ubuntu if there is a difference)?
[06:38] <mdJake> IcemanV9, then XDCMP tab
[06:39] <mdJake> IcemanV9, enable XDMCP
[06:39] <ggross> agent : dont know but i want to know too !
[06:39] <mdJake> IcemanV9, got it?
[06:39] <Barnabas> hello
[06:39] <Barnabas> Im stuck without sound... :((
[06:39] <Barnabas> can anyone help?
[06:39] <IcemanV9> mdJake: gotcha .. working on it - thks
[06:39] <Funraiser> Barnabas, how did it happen?
[06:40] <Barnabas> sound never worked
[06:40] <agent> ggross, well, if not then i guess one can learn how to create an rpm then convert rpm to deb... although that seems like asking for trouble :D
[06:40] <mdJake> IcemanV9, tell me when ready
[06:40] <Barnabas> I followed the guides regarding alsa, but no joy
[06:40] <ggross> agent : i think create a real deb is better
[06:40] <Barnabas> Alsa is installed, however I get no sound
[06:40] <Funraiser> Barnabas, check http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[06:41] <agent> ggross, of course!
[06:41] <Barnabas> been there, done that
[06:41] <Funraiser> ok
[06:41] <IcemanV9> mdJake: ready, dude
[06:41] <Barnabas> still, no sound
[06:41] <mdJake> IcemanV9, go to the "client" computer
[06:41] <Funraiser> try applications/sound and video/volume control
[06:41] <mdJake> IcemanV9,  and the command is:
[06:41] <agent> ggross, i founda few how-to's on creating specific deb's... reading them will let you know :)
[06:42] <Barnabas> all is up and unmuted
[06:42] <mdJake> X -query <ipoftheserver> :1
[06:42] <Funraiser> try system/preferences/sound
[06:42] <Barnabas> sound is enabled
[06:42] <mdJake> IcemanV9, or X :1 -query <ipoftheserver>
[06:43] <ghetek> I have an apple PowerPC 5500/225 and It does not boot into the Ubuntu install CD when i hold down "C" at boot up, it just goes into the hard drive as normally.
[06:43] <IcemanV9> mdJake: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[06:43] <mdJake> IcemanV9, wait a minute I check it
[06:43] <Funraiser> Barnabas, did u try to uncheck enable sound server startup?
[06:43] <Barnabas> em...
[06:43] <Barnabas> nope
[06:43] <mdJake> IcemanV9, (it works on localhost also)
[06:43] <syltty> exit
[06:43] <Barnabas> Funraiser, should I restart
[06:44] <Barnabas> ?
[06:44] <Funraiser> no
[06:44] <mdJake> IcemanV9, yes!
[06:44] <Barnabas> ok... then what?
[06:44] <mdJake> IcemanV9, sudo X :1 -query <ip>
[06:44] <Funraiser> then launch a mediaplayer
[06:44] <sorsis_> what is default password for root on 5.04 livecd?
[06:45] <Barnabas> xmms good?
[06:45] <ghetek> there is none
[06:45] <ghetek> soris
[06:45] <Funraiser> do u have xine?
[06:45] <sorsis_> ok
[06:45] <ghetek> open konsole
[06:45] <trygvebw> BMP is better :)
[06:45] <sorsis_> thanks
[06:45] <ghetek> and type in sudo passwd
[06:45] <Barnabas> nope
[06:45] <ghetek> then put one in
[06:45] <Funraiser> try xmms
[06:45] <Barnabas> no sound :(
[06:45] <sorsis_> ghetek: so there was no root user ?
[06:45] <sorsis_> ghetek: only ubuntu?
[06:45] <Funraiser> since u installed hoary u never had sound?
[06:46] <Barnabas> yes
[06:46] <Funraiser> Barnabas, did u have warty before?
[06:46] <Barnabas> nope
[06:46] <Barnabas> in a nood
[06:46] <ghetek> soris, there is no root password on the live cd
[06:46] <Barnabas> oops
[06:46] <Barnabas> noob
[06:46] <Funraiser> Barnabas, had windows?
[06:46] <Barnabas> yep
[06:46] <mdJake> IcemanV9, Success?
[06:46] <Funraiser> still have?
[06:46] <Barnabas> yes
[06:46] <Barnabas> (sound works there)
[06:46] <Funraiser> does it work...
[06:46] <Funraiser> k
[06:46] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it works, just a mouse pointer and grey background
[06:47] <ghetek> I have an apple PowerPC 5500/225 and It does not boot into the Ubuntu install CD when i hold down "C" at boot up, it just goes into the hard drive as normally.
[06:47] <Funraiser> weird
[06:47] <Barnabas> yep!
[06:47] <mdJake> IcemanV9, move the mouse
[06:47] <mdJake> IcemanV9, (almost there)
[06:47] <IcemanV9> mdJake: is it possible to keep it in window mode instead of a fullscreen?
[06:47] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i could move the mouse .. np
[06:47] <mdJake> IcemanV9, then again
[06:47] <mdJake> IcemanV9, sudo gdmsetup
[06:48] <mdJake> IcemanV9, Security tab
[06:48] <mdJake> you allow TCP connections for remote X
[06:48] <mdJake> right?
[06:48] <IcemanV9> mdJake: yep
[06:48] <mdJake> then XDMCP tab
[06:49] <mdJake> Enable XDMCP
[06:49] <mdJake> got it?
[06:49] <Funraiser> Barnabas, anathema is someone who could help u on that, he's not here today, but watch for him
[06:49] <jackass> how do it install bchunk?
[06:49] <Barnabas> ok
[06:49] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it is enabled
[06:49] <Barnabas> be back later than
[06:49] <mdJake> IcemanV9, ok
[06:50] <mdJake> IcemanV9, then switch to vt1 (ctrl alt f1)
[06:50] <mdJake> IcemanV9, sudo X :1 -query localhost (for testing)
[06:50] <mdJake> IcemanV9, you should see a gdm login screen by now
[06:51] <concept10> interesting: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals
[06:52] <slept> I want to create a (some) universe,multiverse,restricted DVD-Image(s) which is apt-searchable
[06:53] <mdJake> slept, can be done
[06:53] <IcemanV9> mdJake: all i see is a blue screen
[06:53] <andre> hi
[06:54] <Mahl> Hey im off to a friend of mine but before I go...Were gonna set up a network but hes running windows XP....How do I do that?
[06:54] <mdJake> slept you should wget us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[06:54] <IcemanV9> mdJake: have tried f2, f3, f4 as well
[06:55] <mdJake> slept, *all.deb and *i386.deb
[06:55] <andre> i've just got ubuntu installed, but i don't know how to get root access... in the faq they say that the root pass isn't set wihin the installation process.
[06:55] <jackass> how do i install bchunk!?!?!?
[06:55] <andre> can somebody help me out?
[06:55] <mdJake> IcemanV9, u use gdm and gnome yeah?
[06:55] <slept> mdJake, will apt-cdrom do the rest ?
[06:55] <mdJake> slept, not yet
[06:56] <andre> and even if the password was set in the installation, there was only one password i set and it's not that one..
[06:56] <Mahl> Hey im off to a friend of mine but before I go...Were gonna set up a network but hes running windows XP....How do I do that? I just installed Samba...Now what do I do?
[06:56] <mdJake> slept, you'll need dists/hoary/multiverse/* etc
[06:56] <dr_willis> andre,  you use 'sudo' and the users password.
[06:56] <slept> mdJake, but there should be a way to create an index
[06:56] <Mahl> Nevermind
[06:56] <Mahl> figured it out
[06:56] <Mahl> :P
[06:56] <dr_willis> andre,  you do NOT login as 'root'
[06:57] <mdJake> slept, dists/hoary/*/* has the needed Release,Packages,Packages.gz files
[06:57] <andre> doh... tnx dr_willis :-)
[06:57] <darkaudit> grr... trying to pin mozilla-firefox to *not* install the backports version...
[06:57] <dr_willis> andre,  this is like a #1 faq on the ubuntu guides/faq's :P
[06:57] <mdJake> slept, very important to leave the dir structure as on the server
[06:57] <andre> dr_willis: i know, i just wanted to get root access to modify my fstab
[06:57] <mdJake> so a pool/*all.deb+*i386.deb
[06:57] <andre> thanks anyway
[06:58] <dr_willis> andre,  thats easially done. :P or ya can just enable the root password. and it will work like all the other disrtos out there . "sudo passwd" :P
[06:58] <andre> but i have to say that i'm linking ubuntu :-)
[06:58] <mdJake> and a dists/hoary/multiverse/ and dists/hoary/universe structure
[06:58] <dead^^> hi everyone. does anyone here know P2P programs like DC++ or oDC on Windows. Does Linux even have on that would support DC++ or oDC hublists?
[06:58] <andre> dr_willis: i used to word with gentoo, there you set your pass within the installation...
[06:58] <mdJake> slept, you'll need Packages and Release at least
[06:58] <andre> so there's no need for sudo, i didn't even have the sudo package installed :-P
[06:59] <mdJake> slept, for each of them
[06:59] <andre> but i've got no time for gentoo anymore...
[06:59] <andre> s/word/work btw ;D
[06:59] <dr_willis> andre,  sudo has other uses i imagine.
[06:59] <mdJake> slept then you can add that CD structured like I said
[06:59] <mdJake> slept, clear?
[06:59] <andre> yeah dr_willis :-)
[06:59] <dead^^> hi everyone. does anyone here know P2P programs to Linux, like DC++ or oDC on Windows. Does Linux even have one that would support DC++ or oDC hublists?
[06:59] <mdJake> IcemanV9, what is your system setup?
[07:00] <mdJake> IcemanV9, two computers?
[07:00] <syltty> sudo -s when u want to do something as a root and then exit when u are done
[07:00] <mdJake> IcemanV9, one must act like a "server"
[07:00] <mdJake> IcemanV9, other as a "client"
[07:00] <xiaogil> hi
[07:00] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it works - i have to modify the firewall to allow it. very slow box :)
[07:00] <slept> mdJake, thanks i'll have a try
[07:01] <xiaogil> are there text recognition from images programs on Linux ?
[07:01] <mdJake> slept, you should tell me how to do it if you'd like
[07:01] <dr_willis> xiaogil,  ive seen some mentioned.  but never used any.
[07:01] <mdJake> slept, just to be sure u understand before starting the huge download
[07:01] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it went fullscreen, so i couldn't see anything on my box except remote X
[07:01] <mdJake> IcemanV9, ctrl-alt-f7
[07:01] <dr_willis> xiaogil,  check freshmeat.net  - i seem to recall one called gnome-ocr or similer.
[07:02] <IcemanV9> mdJake: thanks for the detail
[07:02] <mdJake> IcemanV9, your own session
[07:02] <mdJake> IcemanV9, ctrl-alt-f8 the remote session
[07:02] <dr_willis> xiaogil,  apt-cache search ocr
[07:02] <IcemanV9> mdJake: is it possible to make it into a windowed mode?
[07:02] <mdJake> IcemanV9, nope it's the way of X
[07:03] <IcemanV9> mdJake: ah ok. f7 - own session & f8 for remote
[07:03] <mdJake> IcemanV9, the "server" should be a powerful machine
[07:03] <syltty> anyone willing to test out my video stream application on http://lintelkku.sourceforge.net ?
[07:03] <mdJake> IcemanV9, the "client" can be a 486DX!
[07:03] <xiaogil> dr_willis: i found gocr
[07:04] <mdJake> IcemanV9, check out tldp.org for details
[07:04] <IcemanV9> mdJake: haha. i know. it should be another way around, but the fast box is my primary one
[07:04] <jdims> could someone take a look at this and maybe offer some advice? http://phpfi.com/61361
[07:04] <slept> mdJake, wget things, get the .gz files  - have a look for the size and modify .gz files (fit the size ), burn  , apt-cdrom
[07:04] <IcemanV9> mdJake: other is just for experiment
[07:04] <mdJake> IcemanV9, tldp.org has a HOWTO (called X-terminal or sg)
[07:05] <xinud> llo people , i looking for a hardware compatibility list (mb vc ...) for ubuntu (debian)
[07:05] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I used "" because in X "server" is the client "client" is the server - very confusing at first
[07:05] <patrickxb> /quit
[07:06] <mdJake> slept, wget -r things (all.deb and i386.deb are enough) from archive/pool
[07:06] <agent> who was it that needed a deb creating how-to?
[07:06] <mdJake> slept, wget -r things from archive/dists
[07:06] <mdJake> slept, wait, you'd like DVDs yeah?
[07:06] <mdJake> slept then the 1st step is right
[07:07] <nullkill> has anyone messed with getting gmailfs to work on ubuntu?
[07:07] <mdJake> slept, but you should manually generate Packages.gz from the actual packages
[07:07] <ih8evil> Hey, does anybody know how to set a different background image for each of the four workspaces?
[07:07] <nullkill> its really easy on kde
[07:07] <Jormundgand> ih8evil: not for GNOME. I know KDE does it.
[07:07] <slept> mdJake, how do I create Packages.gz
[07:08] <IcemanV9> mdJake: cool. something new to learn today. :)
[07:08] <mdJake> slept, theres a command 1sec plz
[07:08] <mdJake> dpkg-scanpackages
[07:09] <mdJake> slept, problem is though
[07:09] <mdJake> us.archive.ubuntu.com stores all packages in pool/
[07:10] <mdJake> under a/ b/ c/ etc
[07:10] <mdJake> go have a look to get the idea
[07:10] <Andril> hello all
[07:10] <Andril> anyone get Opera 8 installed? please help
[07:11] <mdJake> slept, I mean all - for Hoary, Breezy? Warty
[07:11] <mdJake> slept, they are mixed
[07:11] <slept> mdJake, that sounds good so I can create customized cds only containing things I realy need , if I can do so I only have to solve dependencies
[07:11] <syltty> Andril: I have opera 8 installed. what is the problem ?
[07:11] <Andril> syltty, i am a semi-noob
[07:11] <mdJake> slept, but you have to figure out
[07:11] <Andril> syltty, can you help me install?
[07:12] <mdJake> slept, take an example:
[07:12] <syltty> Andril:ok
[07:12] <Andril> syltty, thanks - lead the way :)
[07:12] <syltty> Andril:If I remember correctly i just downloaded the debian sid package and installed it
[07:13] <Andril> syltty, they added a Ubuntu file also
[07:13] <mdJake> slept,  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/
[07:13] <cart> Hi ppl, kubuntu use the same deb repository from ubuntu, or is a diferent one?
[07:13] <syltty> Andril: oh. I'll check that out
[07:13] <Riddell> cart: same one
[07:13] <mdJake> slept, you see varios packages for firefox there
[07:14] <mdJake> slept, one is for Warty, other is for Hoary and there's one for Breezy
[07:14] <slept> mdJake,  can apt-get things
[07:14] <Andril> syltty, i have opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[07:14] <syltty> Andril: what was the problem with installing it ?
[07:14] <mdJake> slept, apt will know from the dists/../Packages files which package belongs to which release
[07:15] <cart> Riddell: :(, im hopping that kubuntu is in a diferent repository and have a package for knoda. Ubuntu doesn't have
[07:15] <mdJake> slept, this means you'll have to select the appropriate packages by hand from pool/
[07:15] <Andril> syltty, should I get the Debian/static or the plain Debian pack?
[07:16] <Andril> syltty, I am a noob not good at installing yet - sorry
[07:16] <syltty> Andril: I am just now trying to install the ubuntu package of opera. wait a sec
[07:16] <slept> mdJake, I want to create cds for a friend of mine maybe I can  just filter out the packages contained in main from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:16] <Andril> syltty, cool
[07:17] <mdJake> slept, I see - a friend with no/slow internet
[07:17] <Riddell> cart: add it to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuSuggestedPackages
[07:17] <Riddell> and I'll try and find someone to make packages
[07:17] <syltty> Andril: open terminal and write sudo dpkg -i  opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[07:17] <syltty> that should do it
[07:18] <jdims> could someone take a look at this and maybe offer some advice? http://phpfi.com/61361
[07:18] <Andril> syltty, ok
[07:19] <slept> mdJake, or can he just copy all packages to his  system and dselect update
[07:19] <cart> Riddell: Ok, thanks! :P
[07:19] <Andril> syltty, done it
[07:20] <mdJake> slept, or dpkg -i *.deb
[07:20] <ih8evil> what's the command to extract?
[07:20] <mdJake> slept, that way you needn't have Packages
[07:20] <mdJake> slept, but watch out for dependecies
[07:20] <syltty> Andril: try to launch it by typing opera in terminal
[07:20] <mdJake> maybe slept, too complicated for a human being :)
[07:21] <slept> mdJake, thats the reason why i wanted to update
[07:21] <mdJake> slept, I once mirrored the whole Debian repository
[07:21] <Dethread> ahahaha, das topic ist ja geil
[07:22] <Dethread> erm, wrong channel
[07:22] <mdJake> slept, this is why I know something about it
[07:22] <Andril> syltty, it worked but an error was displayed about java being disabled
[07:22] <mdJake> slept, (i didn't have net connection by that time)
[07:22] <mdJake> slept, but I didn't use DVDs
[07:22] <mdJake> slept, I used a 20GB mobil rack HDD
[07:22] <slept> mdJake, for debian I used the jigdo images
[07:23] <mdJake> slept, the whole Debian repo (woody/sarge/sid) was 18 GB
[07:23] <mdJake> slept, without source packages of course
[07:23] <slept> mdJake, if you just need one arch and no source you can go with 4 dvds
[07:23] <agent> can someone tell me of a good way to test created deb files... just to make sure nothing breaks if the deb file is bad?
[07:24] <slept> or 2 I don't remember
[07:24] <mdJake> slept, I don't know jigdo
[07:25] <Andril> syltty, do you have a icon in the menu?
[07:25] <ih8evil> How do I install libqt3c102-mt, because I'm getting an error message: "opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however:
[07:25] <ih8evil>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed."
[07:25] <Dogtix> evening, bit of a noob question about bridges - is there a stdandard config file for bridge setup, or does linux need an init script with brctl commands?
[07:25] <capashen> hi, does an french channel exist in this server please ?
[07:26] <goldfish> capashen: think so
[07:26] <goldfish> ubuntu-fr maybe
[07:26] <mdJake> IcemanV9, why you abadonned BSD?
[07:26] <JairunCaloth> how hard is wine to set up and configure for a n00b?
[07:26] <capashen> ok thx i didn't see that we are on freenode
[07:27] <slept> mdJake, its nice to use, I remember they have 2 dvd images you can download ( ubuntu has jigdo aswell ), and you get lot's of things
[07:27] <agent> capashen, you can always use the /list command to list all channels
[07:28] <capashen> ok thx ( i did /msg chanserv list but it didn't work.)
[07:28] <ih8evil> How do I install libqt3c102-mt, because I'm getting an error message: "opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however: Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed."
[07:28] <syltty> Andril: I have the same java error. don't know yet how to fix it. also adding to the menu is mystery for me. better ask advice from someone more guru :D
[07:29] <Andril> syltty, thanks alot - you helped me this far - now all I need is a working serial - thanks again
[07:29] <UnreA|L> Hello, i have two OS: XP and Ubuntu, and i want reinstall XP, if I install XP, my grub was remove is true ?
[07:29] <syltty> Andril: no problem
[07:30] <agent> what is a good way to test created deb files... just to make sure nothing breaks if the deb file is bad?
[07:30] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i don't stop using bsd .. i just want to find something that i can install and use it immediately like my parents' box and friends' boxes
[07:30] <agent> Unfrgiven, yes, this is true.... XP is horrible like that...
[07:30] <K_Dallas> i cannot imagine what i am reading on ubuntu-fr ;) are you sure it is about linux? ;)
[07:31] <rykel> hi all!!
[07:31] <goldfish> LOL
[07:31] <IcemanV9> mdJake: so they can enjoy it ... hopefully, i can convince them not to use ms anymore
[07:31] <cart> UnreA|L: Yeap, XP installation remove grub from MBR
[07:31] <agent> UnreA|L, , yes, this is true.... XP is horrible like that...
[07:31] <rykel> i need some serious help with my Ubuntu...
[07:31] <UnreA|L> :(
[07:31] <Riddell> cart: knoda is in breezy
[07:31] <UnreA|L> How grub install for new ?
[07:31] <goldfish> rykel: what's up?
[07:31] <IcemanV9> mdJake: they always call me for help on their pc problems :)
[07:31] <rykel> goldfish:
[07:31] <ih8evil> How do I install libqt3c102-mt, because I'm getting an error message: "opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however: Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed."
[07:31] <agent> UnreA|L, there may be a way to install grub after XP kills it
[07:32] <agent> Unfrgiven, let me find you a tutorial
[07:32] <JairunCaloth> unreA|L I saw an artical on the wikipages for ubuntu that talks about that
[07:32] <rykel> I had a Ubuntu Warty machine, which I tried to upgrade to Hoary.
[07:32] <agent> UnreA|L,  let me find you a tutorial
[07:32] <UnreA|L> Yes i now when i reinstall XP, i will install GRUB for new
[07:32] <UnreA|L> How ?
[07:32] <agent> ^^
[07:32] <UnreA|L> agent ok
[07:32] <UnreA|L> ;)
[07:33] <rykel> What I did was change all "warty" references in Synaptic to "hoary" and then did a Smart Upgrade.    Suddenly, I received a "No Signal" for my CRT monitor.    After I hard rebooted, the mouse did not work.    Next, after a second hard reboot, the whole PC hangs at the Hotplug system. There was an earlier error message about "Buffer I/O Error at hdc...", but I do not think that is a big problem as the bootup continued.    Finally, after a thi
[07:33] <rykel> rd hard reboot, the PC will not even start up, and the PC bell will beep frequently. (sounds like a hard disk crash to me!)
[07:33] <goldfish> ugh
[07:33] <goldfish> not nice :/
[07:33] <rykel> Could you please advise me:
[07:33] <rykel> 1. What is the officially correct way to upgrade Warty to Hoary?
[07:33] <rykel> 2. What can I do to resurrect my corrupted system now without resorting to format-and-reinstall?
[07:34] <rykel> goldfish: thanks
[07:34] <goldfish> change all instances of warty to hoary in sources.list
[07:34] <IcemanV9> mdJake: also, bsd are best known for servers, not desktop
[07:34] <goldfish> and do a apt-get update && apt-get distro-upgrade
[07:34] <goldfish> or distupgrade
[07:34] <dataw0lf|w> dist-upgrade
[07:34] <goldfish> Someone correct me there, i think that's the wrong name.
[07:34] <goldfish> thanks
[07:34] <dataw0lf|w> indeed.
[07:35] <goldfish> And I have no idea about #2 I'm afraid rykel, no experience with anything like that I'm afraid :/
[07:35] <agent> UnreA|L, also, first thing you should do is backup your grub config file on a disk or print it out (its small) so you can recreate it... i know that you will need to boot into a livecd to fix your boot menu...
[07:35] <ih8evil> Does anyone know what I type in the terminal to install libqt3c102-mt?
[07:35] <rykel> yes, so ok, i did the right thing... since i changed all warty to hoary and then a Smart Upgrade (dist-upgrade)...
[07:36] <dataw0lf|w> rykel: if you have sensitive stuff on it, use a live cd to extract whatever relevant portions on the filesystem you need.
[07:36] <cart> Riddell: Sorry for my ignorance, but what is breezy?
[07:36] <dataw0lf|w> Ubuntu 5.10
[07:36] <rykel> data: ok, thanks... i presume a fresh install is the best option?
[07:36] <osity> anyone setup sw raid 1 on hoary?
[07:36] <cart> dataw0lf: Oh, ok! Thanks
[07:36] <UnreA|L> How i can do grub backup
[07:36] <mdJake> IcemanV9, you're the man - sorry I thought you abadonned BSD :)))
[07:37] <mdJake> IcemanV9, you will be here tomorrow I hope
[07:37] <UnreA|L> and how after XP install, with LIVECD i can reset GRUB ?
[07:37] <JairunCaloth> UnreA|L I found a tutorial, but it requires that you have a live cd
[07:37] <UnreA|L> i have live cd
[07:38] <UnreA|L> ;)
[07:38] <JairunCaloth> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:38] <dr_willis> Ive often booted with a live cd. chrooted over to the installed linux system and reran the grub installer proggy.
[07:38] <dr_willis> its not hard. :P just a few details to keep an eye on
[07:39] <UnreA|L> How it will do
[07:39] <UnreA|L> with commands
[07:39] <UnreA|L> can you say to me ?
[07:39] <dr_willis> well id say read that url that JairunCaloth  posted.
[07:40] <BoD_SWAT> when I want to use 2 monitors (not cloning) do I need xinerama? (mandatory?)
[07:40] <cart> Any chance to use breezy repository only to install knoda and it's kde deps will damage my Hoary? (My current install don't have kde)
[07:40] <dr_willis> it covers the steps very well.
[07:40] <da_bon_bon> hey, can someone explain me what the practical use of user mode linux can be ? the homepage doesnt explain much :)
[07:40] <dr_willis> BoD_SWAT,  I think if you are useing nvidia cards - you dont have to use xinerama. but i eneded up useing it anyway
[07:40] <dataw0lf|w> da_bon_bon: running kernels in userspace.
[07:40] <dr_willis> da_bon_bon,  to test kernels
[07:40] <JairunCaloth> I've found that ubuntu wiki page to be infinatly helpful so far
[07:41] <IcemanV9> mdJake: cannot promise, but i'll try :)
[07:41] <dataw0lf|w> da_bon_bon: so you could have 10 users, each with their own kernel, running on one server.
[07:41] <dataw0lf|w> So, they have total control over their kernel in userspace.
[07:41] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, I'm @ ATI, but thnx :D (I only asked because it's "alpha" software
[07:41] <rykel> btw, do you all love AUTOPACKAGE?
[07:41] <dataw0lf|w> ie, they can shutdown, install packages, etc, total control.
[07:41] <dataw0lf|w> check out linode.com for an applicable example.
[07:41] <Flav> hunh - anyone know why apache2 needs lynx?
[07:41] <Riddell> cart: I'm wrong, seems like breezy doesn't have it, there was a problem compiling it, I'll look into it
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> dataw0lf|w: u use it ?
[07:42] <mdJake> bye all
[07:42] <BoD_SWAT> I currently have 2 monitors connected (cloning). I want to view movies on my primary, it only shows movies on my secondary monitor. Help?
[07:42] <dataw0lf|w> da_bon_bon: I've played with it a bit.
[07:42] <dataw0lf|w> Flav: Short answer? because of apache2ctl.
[07:42] <cart> Riddell: Ok then, thanks anyway, maybe sometime i get some courage to install devel packages and made some custom packages for me! :P
[07:42] <Flav> dataw0lf|w: ah, gotcha - thanks :)
[07:43] <dr_willis> BoD_SWAT,  i reran that X config tool and added a 2nd monitor. and it worked decentlyu well.  BACKUP your working X config files first however
[07:43] <da_bon_bon> Riddell: on homepge, u mention -- Kubuntu Pure KGX *-- what is KGX ?
[07:43] <Riddell> da_bon_bon: KDE/GNU/Unix
[07:43] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, tried re-running the xconfig tool... It didn't help
[07:43] <dataw0lf|w> da_bon_bon: several of my friends have accounts on Linode, and I convinced caker (the owner) to add Ubuntu as an option.
[07:44] <dr_willis> BoD_SWAT,  or course useing it with the accelerated 3d drivers for the ati cards may be an issue
[07:44] <dataw0lf|w> He's switching to Xen, though.
[07:44] <dataw0lf|w> Which apparently has much, much, much better performance over UML.
[07:44] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, I'm using the ati drivers. My config file -->     http://pastebin.com/282758
[07:45] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, would Xinerama 'fix' that issue? :P
[07:45] <dr_willis> BoD_SWAT,   you may want to go check out the ubuntu wiki's   - odds are someone has done the exact same thing and will have a working sample
[07:46] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, will do that. Thanks :)
[07:47] <rykel> i am using autopackages if possible, because it seems more logical and clean than waiting for devs to update the apt-get repositories...
[07:47] <osity> has anyone setup software raid 1 on hoary?
[07:47] <concept10> what is the developemnt channel for ubuntu?
[07:48] <BoD_SWAT> rykel, I would always use apt-get
[07:48] <BoD_SWAT> rykel, it's easier and it works :D
[07:49] <ramai> Hi, does anybody know how to add .srt files to Xine?
[07:50] (BoD_SWAT/#ubuntu) ramai, do you mean that that extension should always be opened by Xine?
[07:50] <osity> so no one does raid in here today?
[07:50] <thenuke> ramai: please do use google before asking irc http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20703.html
[07:50] <rykel> bod: yeah... but we need both, apt-get and autopackages... when the 2 projects are integrated, autopackages will become the equivalent of DEBs and RPMs... one autopackage = DEB, Fedora Core RPM, Mandriva RPM, SuSE RPM and all the other associated formats...
[07:50] <ramai> No its just I got a movie with a .srt file with it and I want to add that subtitel
[07:51] <rykel> meantime, do not apt-get install what you can install with autopackage
[07:51] <BoD_SWAT> nope, sorry
[07:51] <thenuke> ramai: did you read that what I did point at you?
[07:51] <dataw0lf|w> osity: Not on Ubuntu.
[07:51] <JairunCaloth> what does the sources.list file do?
[07:52] <thenuke> JairunCaloth: it tells apt-get where to look packages for
[07:52] <rykel> eg. GIMP autopackage = version 2.2.6, while the apt-get is 2.2.4.   Firefox autopackage = 1.0.3, while apt-get only has 1.0.3 a few hours ago...
[07:52] <JairunCaloth> ah
[07:52] <rykel> ok, see ya guys and bye!!
[07:52] <ramai> thenuke => thanks
[07:52] <thenuke> JairunCaloth: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories you might want to have a look for this
[07:53] <thenuke> ramai: hope it works for you too
[07:54] <eob84> how do I force install a deb file
[07:54] <WeirdAl> Lo
[07:54] <thenuke> eob84: dpkg --help
[07:54] <eob84> yea
[07:54] <Jormundgand> rykel: apt-get depends where you tell it to look for packages. Firefox 1.0.3 has been on backports for ages.
[07:54] <eob84> I did what it said there
[07:54] <eob84> it didin't work
[07:54] <WeirdAl> Got a friend asking why x-chat isn't connecting. He's using mirc on Windows at the moment.
[07:54] <WeirdAl> Same PC, same network.
[07:54] <thenuke> eob84: then we might want to know more about the problem
[07:54] <eob84> ok
[07:55] <thenuke> if you tried to force it, and it does not work, you should not ask how to force it :)
[07:55] <zenlunatic> How can your test you bandwidth under ubuntu?
[07:55] <eob84> thenuke, I am trying to set ununtu up for bootsplash and I need to install the bootsplash backage and the newlinux theme
[07:55] <thenuke> zenlunatic: I think it is most convenient to try to download something big from site near you
[07:55] <eob84> but they depend on eachother to install
[07:56] <eob84> thenuke, so I have no idea what to do
[07:56] <WeirdAl> Any clues? Something to check that I've overlooked? He's got normal internet but no IRC
[07:56] <thenuke> zenlunatic: maybe a local university of yours has mirror for some linux distros for example?
[07:56] <WeirdAl> He's behind a router.
[07:56] <eob84> oh
[07:56] <Jormundgand> Open port 6667-7000.
[07:56] <eob84> is he
[07:56] <Jormundgand> ports*
[07:56] <eob84> yea
[07:56] <JairunCaloth> I never knew that I needed tabbed browsing so badly until I had it, lol
[07:57] <JairunCaloth> now I can't live with out it
[07:57] <dr_willis> heee
[07:57] <medication> i hear that Jairun
[07:57] <eob84> what is the syntax to force a program to install
[07:57] <JairunCaloth> I start reading one thing, and to understand that, I have to hop over somewhere else, which takes me somewhere else. I must have 8 tabs open right now, and I'm trying to work backwards through them
[07:58] <eob84> I tried dpkg -i --force
[07:58] <eob84> if it isn't the apt database
[07:58] <eob84> I can't seem to install it if it needs dep.
[07:58] <shinu> can i use * or ? with wget?
[07:59] <BoD_SWAT> how secure is Ubuntu by default? And how can I really upgrade it? (I already got firestarter)
[07:59] <agent> when using dh_make, should one run ./configure first if it is needed or will dh_make do that?
[07:59] <eob84> as secure as all unix distros
[07:59] <eob84> the more apps you have the more you compromise your security
[08:00] <eob84> you can upgrade using apt
[08:00] <BoD_SWAT> hmm.... OK
[08:00] <BoD_SWAT> How can I change the access rights to a program? (so that also users can run it?)
[08:00] <goldfish> chmod
[08:00] <eob84> you can put it in a group
[08:00] <BoD_SWAT> and then the /sbin/ dir correct?
[08:00] <HappyFool> eob84: i'm not a dpkg guru, but what happens if you do 'dpkg -i <deb1> <deb2>' ?
[08:00] <Fackamato> Is it safe to resize reiserfs?
[08:00] <BoD_SWAT> resize larger or smaller?
[08:01] <HappyFool> eob84: otherwise take a look at 'dpkg --force-help'  -- i think dpkg --force-all might be the hammer you're looking for
[08:01] <eob84> HappyFool, that worked perfect
[08:01] <HappyFool> which, the first?
[08:01] <eob84> HappyFool, I have no clue why I didn't think of it
[08:02] <eob84> HappyFool, yea
[08:02] <HappyFool> cool :-)
[08:02] <Fackamato> BoD_SWAT: smaller
[08:02] <eob84> HappyFool, thanx I was actually working a while on this
[08:02] <eob84> HappyFool, the solution is sooo lame...
[08:02] <HappyFool> guess was based on what dear old rpm does
[08:03] <mainer> happyfool: dpkg -i *.deb will install all .deb's in a directory
[08:03] <eob84> I had others in there
[08:03] <WeirdAl> My question: I've got loads of backgrounds in my background list and I want to get rid of them all at once.
[08:03] <eob84> that I didn't want installed just yer
[08:03] <eob84> ha
[08:03] <eob84> well if you really want to
[08:03] <eob84> sudo user
[08:03] <WeirdAl> The computer's too slow to make it practical doing them one by one.
[08:04] <eob84> go to /usr/share/wallpaper
[08:04] <BoD_SWAT> eob84, goldfish, dr_willis  I thank you all.
[08:04] <WeirdAl> Oh
[08:04] <goldfish> np
[08:04] <eob84> and type rm *
[08:04] <WeirdAl> dir doesn't exist.
[08:04] <eob84> but I don't think those images are slowing you down
[08:04] <eob84> what?
[08:04] <WeirdAl> They're not.
[08:04] <WeirdAl> But the list is cluttered and I don't use them all.
[08:05] <WeirdAl> And it's impossible to click on one and delete it within five seconds.
[08:05] <eob84> /usr/share/wallpapers does now exist?
[08:05] <WeirdAl> That's what it says.
[08:05] <eob84> not*
[08:05] <eob84> are you using hoary?
[08:05] <WeirdAl> yep
[08:05] <WeirdAl> bash: cd: /usr/share/wallpaper: No such file or directory
[08:05] <eob84> wallpaper(s)
[08:06] <WeirdAl> ah
[08:06] <eob84> use tab complete
[08:06] <WeirdAl> ^_^
[08:06] <eob84> sorry about that
[08:06] <WeirdAl> There's only w3m
[08:06] <eob84> that is where I have all mine
[08:07] <WeirdAl> Well the actual *images* are in ~/wallpaper
[08:07] <WeirdAl> But I don't want to get rid of the actual files.
[08:07] <WeirdAl> I just want to empty the list so when I load my background chooser there's nothing in there.
[08:07] <eob84> oh... you just want them off the list?
[08:07] <eob84> I don't know about that
[08:07] <goldfish> move them to a different folder?
[08:07] <brosio> help
[08:07] <eob84> it looks in that directory for the list
[08:07] <WeirdAl> oh
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> what is the gpg command?
[08:07] <brosio> this source kernel linux-source-2.6.10
[08:08] <eob84> so back them up to like bg.tar.gz
[08:08] <brosio> is the same that i'm using  2.6.10-5-amd64-generic ?
[08:08] <thenuke> JairunCaloth: try, whatis gpg
[08:08] <JairunCaloth> oh cool, thanks
[08:10] <HappyFool> brosio: looks like it. Do you need to compile the kernel?
[08:10] <brosio> i need header and source kernel that i'm using
[08:11] <rottis> how to change fluxbox's background/wallapaper?
[08:11] <goldfish> rottis: ask in #fluxbox maybe ?
[08:11] <goldfish> i can't remember how to myself :/
[08:11] <rottis> :/
[08:12] <goldfish> rottis: it's in the config file or something
[08:12] <goldfish> google ?
[08:12] <HappyFool> brosio: are you sure you don't just need "linux-headers-<something>" (probably "linux-headers-amd64-generic" ?)
[08:12] <Fator_Dee> rottis: right click on desktop -> settings -> desktop settings
[08:12] <Fator_Dee> oh, sorry
[08:12] <rottis> hmh
[08:13] <Fator_Dee> I read xfce instead of fluxbox >_<
[08:14] <mirak> what module do you use for your webcams ?
[08:15] <ivoks> there... HOWTO for rt2500 fixed
[08:18] <JairunCaloth> I've played with linux a few times before, but I have never been able to get this much stuff up and running. This is a great distro with an awsome community to help out us complete n00bs.
[08:21] <sri> JairunCaloth: which distro?
[08:21] <loren> Kubuntu/Ubuntu
[08:21] <loren> oh whoops nvm
[08:21] <sri> ah,okay.
[08:21] <sri> good!
[08:21] <sri> I'm assuming you're running GNOME then.
[08:21] <JairunCaloth> yes
[08:22] <sri> JairunCaloth: are you a recent convert to Ubuntu/GNOME?
[08:22] <JairunCaloth> The past few times I've tried a linux distro I used redhat 6ish... I think. that was a while ago, then redhat 9
[08:22] <sri> ah, okay.
[08:22] <Jormundgand> I tried Kubuntu, so I'm pretty well qualified to have an opinion on GNOME vs KDE. In my opinion GNOME wins superbly over KDE on intuitiveness and customisability, but KDE has one or two odd nifty things which push it forward, like the consistent naming strategy. (GNOME doesn't have the same effect as using the K Desktop Environment with Koffice, Konqueror, Konversation and Kopete.)
[08:22] <JairunCaloth> I completly trashed my HDD trying to install redhat 6
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> had to reformat
[08:23] <sri> Jormundgand: what do you mean by consistent naming strategy? everything begins iwth 'K'?
[08:23] <Jormundgand> Yes.
[08:23] <sri> JairunCaloth: ugh.
[08:23] <Jormundgand> You don't get that with GNOME.
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> yea, it was ugly, and I was a n00b
[08:24] <sri> Jormundgand: it's not very interesting to have thing snamed with 'K'. or 'G'.  My personal opinion is to have interesting names
[08:24] <loren> sri: yeah i wish they'd have new names like "Excel" or "Camino"
[08:24] <JairunCaloth> I managed to install redhat 9 without many problems, but I was pretty much lost as what to do with it, and it just sat there rotting on my HDD while I kept using windows
[08:24] <sri> having a namespace for applications to identify them as a desktop app seems..well, constraining.
[08:25] <Andril> hello all
[08:25] <loren> i hate RH9
[08:25] <loren> hi
[08:25] <sri> loren: there was a couple interesting ones in gnomefiles I liked..I couldn't remember what it was
[08:25] <Hoxzer> Hi
[08:25] <Hoxzer> Somebody here has installed BTDC  _
[08:25] <Hoxzer> ?
[08:25] <loren> sri: yeah i know what you mean, like Konversation isn't a bad name
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> I was using KDE then, and that was a while ago, but I'm really likeing gnome
[08:25] <Andril> syltty, you there?
[08:25] <HappyFool> what's BTDC ?
[08:25] <Hoxzer> DC client
[08:26] <loren> JairunCaloth: strange i was the opposite lol, i liked Gnome and then KDE XD
[08:26] <sri> JairunCaloth: I've never used KDE, but I found that options tend to confuse newbies...but it's good to have both desktops around so nobody has to compromise :)
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> lol
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I havn't used either in forever
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I used to have them both installed though on my redhat distros
[08:26] <loren> sri: there ya go lol, i picked up  KDE in a second, but it was only because it was friendly to use and nice looking
[08:27] <rj_>  is there a way to completely remove gnome and all it's depends?
[08:27] <rj_> i'am running a headless server -- and i didnt do a "custom" install so all the default packages were installed -- alot of which i don't need
[08:27] <Hoxzer> when Im trying to do the install it says: Configure: error: C++ preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
[08:27] <sri> loren: note that for someoen non-technical all those options are meaningless because most people will choose the default.
[08:27] <Hoxzer> what I can do ?
[08:27] <mirak> what package is video for linux ?
[08:27] <sri> and never mind that if you're a support person it'll be painful because there is a lot of stuff to walk people through.
[08:28] <makaveli> does anybody know of a program that will take your current desktop and put it into 3d like all of your icons
[08:28] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: does the software require a particular cpp version?
[08:28] <loren> sri: true, i wish that gnome just had different icons i guess lol, then i personally wouldn't mind using it, they're so brown and ugly, and i bet this has been discussed MANY MANY times
[08:28] <Hoxzer> Happy: dunno
[08:28] <sri> loren: can't you use the kde icons that were ported to gnome?
[08:28] <JairunCaloth> sri: hehe, in a couple of months you are all going to run when you see me comming. I'm sure I'm going to have many questions.
[08:28] <sri> kde makes good icons
[08:28] <loren> ,alave;o" i forgot the name but i think it might have something to do with SuperKaramba, i'm probably wronge though
[08:28] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: take a look in README/INSTALL and/or similarly named files to check
[08:29] <osity> how do i see my parititions?
[08:29] <loren> sri: did they do that? hmmh
[08:29] <makaveli> ?
[08:29] <m4x> is there a way to install ubuntu w/o a CDROM drive?
[08:29] <sri> JairunCaloth: well, hopefully if we did our job right you won't have a lot of questions and everything should be intuitive.  If it isn't thats good to know
[08:29] <sri> loren: yeah, go to www.gnome-look.org
[08:29] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: I know of one app requiring cpp 3.4, and hoary comes with cpp 3.3. That *might* be the problem, though I think it's unlikely
[08:29] <sri> loren: which is the same machine as kde-look.org I believe.
[08:29] <loren> sri: i know the recent addition of http://gnome-look.org is fanominally both needed and an awsome idea, i think it's gonna boost em up a bit, but i might pick up gnome3 when it comes out with new features
[08:29] <loren> sri: yeah i think so
[08:30] <sri> gnome3 is probably years away :)
[08:30] <Hoxzer> Happy: well they didt said anything about it
[08:30] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: you have done "sudo apt-get install build-essential", right ?
[08:30] <Hoxzer> no
[08:30] <loren> sri: unfortunatly
[08:30] <makaveli> does anybody know of a program that will take ur desktop 3d
[08:30] <makaveli> ?
[08:30] <Jormundgand> The problem with many icon themes is that they're so incomplete.
[08:30] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: try that first
[08:30] <JairunCaloth> ser: I've found tons and tons of help in the wiki files, and the irc chan helps direct me to little things I didn't realize or just looked over
[08:31] <loren> makaveli: you mean whilist switching desktops from one to another or uhm, what do you mean?
[08:31] <JairunCaloth> lol ser=sri
[08:31] <sri> makaveli: I think there is a 3dwm or osmething like that in ubuntu
[08:31] <m4x> makaveli, http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/details.xml
[08:32] <m4x> that what u mean?
[08:32] <makaveli> loren: i mean like not switching desktops because i already tried 3ddesktop and i don't like that i need something that will like take all my icons and put them 3d in the middle of my screen
[08:32] <sri> I guess we don't know what you mean by '3d'.
[08:32] <sri> the icons are 3 dimensional?
[08:32] <loren> makaveli: oh sorry then, i can't help you there, it would be pretty cool to see though, please post a link if you find out ;)
[08:32] <Jormundgand> http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/342/ <-- this takes me back. RedHat Linux 4.2.
[08:32] <m4x> http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/details.xml
[08:32] <m4x> check out that link for a 3d desktop
[08:33] <loren> makaveli: i do know that you can stack 2d icons on top of eachother and scroll though to change icons
[08:33] <makaveli> how would you do that
[08:34] <makaveli> also how do you switch to 3ddesktop without running the application
[08:34] <makaveli> because everytime i want to switch workplace i have to go run 3ddesktop and that's to tideous
[08:34] <JairunCaloth> whoh, virtual stickies!!
[08:34] <BigJG> lol
[08:35] <gibeau> has anyone got arla/openafs to work on the 2.6 kernel?
[08:37] <zxc> Does anyone know how to use the "Rm" command to remove a dir
[08:37] <HappyFool> hrm. wiki changed it's look and feel?
[08:37] <m4x> zxc, rm -r
[08:37] <franklin50> zxc: rmdir is the command you want
[08:38] <zxc> rmdir: `realplayer': Permission denied, franklin50- how do I make it so I can delete this?
[08:38] <Badness45> helloo
[08:38] <JairunCaloth> what is the perfered multimedia player for most?
[08:38] <Jormundgand> rhythmbox.
[08:39] <Jormundgand> zxc: sudo apt-get remove realplayer
[08:39] <franklin50> zxc: sudo rm -r
[08:39] <m4x> zxc, su -
[08:39] <sabdfl> hey all, how's it going?
[08:39] <Badness45> what's up guys i am trying to install my wireless network card on my laptop i need help
[08:39] <m4x> is there a way to install ubuntu w/o a CDROM drive?
[08:39] <franklin50> ooh, good question m4x
[08:39] <zxc> m4x, I think there's a way in the howto forums- ftp or something
[08:40] <Jormundgand> Badness45: You'll need to A) ask a question and B) be more specific about your problem.
[08:40] <mcsf> hey all
[08:40] <Badness45> i have a broadcom network adapter and when i installed warty it's not reconized
[08:41] <Jormundgand> Install Hoary.
[08:41] <tritium> willis, ping
[08:41] <JairunCaloth> this unofficia ubuntu guide is king
[08:41] <Badness45> hoary didn't work the graphics card was not compatiable
[08:42] <pablo928>  Badness45,which graphics card?
[08:42] <mcsf> i trying the latest Ubuntu LiveCD, and i think it doesn't like my ATI Radeon 9200, because the screen turns blank after loading everything and entering the x server
[08:42] <mcsf> i tried*
[08:42] <Badness45> i used somthing call ndiswrapper and they have a driver realease for the 64 bit laptops and still don't work
[08:42] <tritium> Hi sabdfl.  How are you?
[08:43] <Badness45> i have nvida
[08:43] <aardvark> ?
[08:43] <mcsf> do you know what can cause this, and how do i solve it?
[08:43] <pablo928> mcsf:i'm on hoary right now using a radeon 9200 with a default install
[08:43] <Jormundgand> Anyone know how to make the background of the user list transparent in Xchat?
[08:43] <Badness45> by the way i am new with this os
[08:44] <mcsf> pablo928 : and did it work with the LiveCD? it's just that i'm quite a Linux newbie and don't want to get into complicated stuff
[08:44] <xukun> anbody know what this error means? I get it after I try to run nxclient "Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[08:44] <xukun> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset"
[08:44] <aardvark> anyone know how to get an apt-get dist_uprgade to work when its saying there are packages being held back ??? I am trying to upgrade from warty to hoary
[08:45] <aardvark> the ratbag is jivving me
[08:45] <billytwowilly> when did oracle 8i come out?
[08:45] <pablo928> mcsf, never tried the hoary live cd but, yes, it worked with the warty live cd
[08:46] <aardvark> apt-get dist-upgrade anyone ????????????????????????
[08:46] <goldfish> Hi guys, I'm having some trouble, when i try to ssh to my laptop from my desktop, i get "remote host identification has changed" someone may be eavesdropping, and also i cannot ssh out from my laptop.
[08:46] <Jormundgand> aardvark: If anyone can help they will. Don't start getting huffy because nobody can help.
[08:46] <mcsf> pablo928: thanks
[08:46] <tritium> aardvark, is it "upgrade" or "dist-upgrade" that is holding packages back?
[08:47] <mcsf> pablo928, so i guess the problem maybe isn't the GFX card?
[08:47] <goldfish> anyone know what I can do... ?
[08:47] <aardvark> Jormundgand: pennace for my sins
[08:47] <aardvark> tritium: dist-upgrade
[08:47] <sabdfl> tritium: well thanks. recovered from sydney and thrilled with the state of the breezy goal specs from UDU
[08:47] <HappyFool> goldfish: try editing / erasing .ssh/known_hosts
[08:47] <Badness45> has anyone installed the broadcom wireless driver on there laptop
[08:47] <pablo928> mcsf, probably not
[08:47] <tritium> sabdfl, super :)
[08:47] <goldfish> HappyFool: did that, get the same problem :/
[08:47] <tritium> aardvark, which packages?
[08:47] <sabdfl> cheeeerio
[08:47] <HappyFool> err
[08:47] <aardvark> gees a bunch
[08:47] <aardvark> mostly gnome
[08:47] <Jormundgand> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=167853#post167853 - Eeeeee.
[08:47] <aardvark> and xfree
[08:48] <tritium> aardvark, please query me and paste the output
[08:48] <mcsf> pablo928, do you know of any hardware that is known to cause such problems with x server?
[08:48] <aardvark> tritium: the box in question is at home and I am at work....using my Powerbook
[08:49] <goldfish> HappyFool: do u think maybe someone is sniffing my network or something?
[08:49] <tritium> aardvark, okay.  I'm somewhat surprised, frankly.  upgrade might hold the packages back, but I would expect dist-upgrade not to.
[08:49] <HappyFool> goldfish: do you have secrets worth stealing?
[08:49] <goldfish> nope
[08:49] <aardvark> tritium: is there anyway to get more verbose info on which dependancies are holding me back
[08:49] <HappyFool> goldfish: unlikely ;)
[08:49] <goldfish> HappyFool: but i cant ssh in or out to it :/
[08:50] <Badness45> i have a broadcom network adapter and when i installed warty it's not reconized
[08:50] <tritium> aardvark, you can use the "-u" switch
[08:50] <HappyFool> you can ssh to other hosts from your laptop/
[08:50] <aardvark> tritium: my warty box here dist-upgraded to hoary just fine
[08:50] <aardvark> tritium: ok I'll try it tonite thanx
[08:50] <jackass> which player can play divx, xvid mpg movies for ubuntu????
[08:50] <aardvark> jackass: mplayer is good 4 that
[08:50] <goldfish> HappyFool: nope
[08:51] <goldfish> HappyFool: can't ssh at all
[08:51] <jackass> where can i find?
[08:51] <tritium> aardvark, you can also use the -s switch.  (-u = --show-upgrade, -s = --simulate)
[08:51] <makaveli> hey i have a problem with my sound
[08:51] <makaveli> i don't know how to diagnose or anything
[08:51] <mirak_> I have this error when I run xawtv, I don't know how to resolve it :
[08:51] <mirak_> WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual
[08:51] <mirak_>          configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>")
[08:51] <tritium> aardvark, -u = --show-upgraded, that is ;)
[08:51] <aardvark> tritium: cool i should have RTFM'd
[08:51] <tritium> no problem
[08:51] <HappyFool> goldfish: maybe ssh -v, or -vv, or -vvv will help you diagnose the problem... ?
[08:52] <goldfish> HappyFool: will try thanks
[08:52] <mainer> goldfish: dwnld install and run rootkithuntrer     http://rootkit.nl
[08:52] <mainer> linchtime
[08:52] <xukun> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[08:52] <xukun> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
[08:52] <HappyFool> goldfish: also, ssh is fiddly about permissions on  files in .ssh (any maybe on .ssh as well)
[08:52] <makaveli> when i try to play an mp3 with xmms it says this: Please check that" your soundcard is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected and no other program is blocking the soundcard
[08:52] <xukun> which fonts I,m I missing?
[08:52] <zenlunatic> How can I test my bandwidth under ubuntu?
[08:53] <Badness45> how can i install the network adapter for my laptop
[08:53] <bluemax> hey
[08:53] <pablo928> zenlunatic:if you have java installed you can try testmy.net
[08:53] <jackass> aardwark do you mean windows media player???
[08:53] <aardvark> zenlunatic: bandwidth to and from ISP ?
[08:54] <goldfish> makaveli: in settings choose alsa output
[08:54] <Fator_Dee> am I imagining things or is the mplayer from hoarys repos a little broken?
[08:55] <aardvark> jackass: no mplayer
[08:55] <makaveli> goldfish: where is settings?
[08:55] <jackass> aardwark: where can I find that player then?
[08:55] <goldfish> makaveli: emmm, top left corner of it
[08:55] <Geezer041> Please can you help an idiot. I installed via synaptic xfree866 something. Rebooted and it doesnt work. I only have what looks like a terminal (DOS) Can you help me get rid of xfree866 or get me into a GUI so that i can via synaptic?
[08:55] <goldfish> makaveli: right click
[08:55] <goldfish> i think
[08:55] <aardvark> seems like mplayer is at its end......
[08:56] <zenlunatic> aardvark, yeah
[08:56] <aardvark> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/index.html
[08:56] <aardvark> they are being pressurized by the 'man'
[08:56] <aardvark> cease and desist
[08:56] <makaveli> goldfish: for output plugin it says also 1.2.10 output plugin
[08:56] <makaveli> it still won't work
[08:56] <aardvark> when did all this transpire, would that explain hoarys repository  ?
[08:56] <goldfish> jeez
[08:57] <jackass> thnx
[08:57] <bluemax> is there an easy way to change the Applications/Places/System menu names in Gnome?
[08:57] <aardvark> jackass: try Xine
[08:57] <mark345> hey:), im having a problem viewing thumbnails for a few mpg files in nautilus
[08:57] <aardvark> jackass: better yet look at VLC http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[08:57] <Geezer041> would anybody be help me?
[08:57] <Geezer041>  Please can you help an idiot. I installed via synaptic xfree866 something. Rebooted and it doesnt work. I only have what looks like a terminal (DOS) Can you help me get rid of xfree866 or get me into a GUI so that i can via synaptic?
[08:58] <mark345> the files used to be .avi files and were unreadable
[08:58] <mark345> i converted them to mpg and they play fine
[08:58] <mark345> but they still have no thumbnails, just icons
[08:58] <goldfish> Geezer041: you could try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[08:59] <Geezer041> tk
[08:59] <mark345> bluemax: install smeg
[08:59] <mark345> menu editor
[08:59] <Fator_Dee> well, all would be alright if the european parliament would vote "no" to the patent legislation
[08:59] <makaveli> i still can't figure out why none of the programs won't play any of my music miles
[08:59] <makaveli> file*
[08:59] <Fator_Dee> Geezer041: do you have hoary or warty installed?
[08:59] <aardvark> makaveli: is your soundcard working
[08:59] <Geezer041> hoary
[08:59] <makaveli> yes
[09:00] <makaveli> i get all the sounds that gnome creates
[09:00] <pablo928> makaveli:what format are they, mp3?
[09:00] <makaveli> yes
[09:00] <HappyFool> tried installing gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[09:00] <aardvark> makaveli: are these mp3's, wma ?
[09:00] <bluemax> mark: i have smeg but it seems i can only edit the stuff under the Applications menu unstead of the Applications title itself...
[09:00] <makaveli> the are mp3
[09:00] <zenlunatic> aardvark, what we need is free software mulitmedia formats
[09:00] <Fator_Dee> Geezer041: hoary uses xorg instead of xfree86, so I think you should do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[09:00] <makaveli> xmms won't work totem won't work and neither will music player
[09:01] <aardvark> zenlunatic: hmmm I'll speak to the man ;-)
[09:01] <Flav> zenlunatic: like ogg? :)
[09:01] <xukun> can somebody tell me why I cant run freenx on ubuntu?
[09:01] <zenlunatic> Flav, Vorbis yes. And flac and theora.
[09:01] <zenlunatic> Flav, Oh and MPC.
[09:01] <aardvark> zenlunatic: flac is nice but huge
[09:01] <Flav> lossless will do that
[09:01] <zenlunatic> Flav, The open sound formats are already superior.
[09:02] <Fator_Dee> but the software patent legislation si still a huge drawback
[09:02] <zenlunatic> aardvark, duh its lossless
[09:02] <aardvark> zenlunatic: precisely but its sounz good
[09:02] <aardvark> zenlunatic: whats your point
[09:03] <makaveli> none of my media players work with any of the mp3's
[09:03] <aardvark> makaveli: XMMS ?
[09:03] <Fator_Dee> makaveli: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?
[09:03] <tritium> makaveli, you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:03] <makaveli> nope
[09:03] <makaveli> i don't know
[09:03] <zenlunatic> aardvark, you said its big
[09:03] <HappyFool> makaveli: read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:03] <zenlunatic> aardvark, of course lossless is larger
[09:03] <xukun> bob2, are u in?
[09:04] <makaveli> will do thanks
[09:04] <aardvark> makaveli: type on the CLI "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"
[09:04] <ivoks> what is CLI?
[09:04] <zenlunatic> aardvark, don't forget sudo or sudo -s -H
[09:04] <HappyFool> command-line interface
[09:04] <zenlunatic> ivoks, command line
[09:04] <xukun> its possible that I cant run freenx becouse no xfonts-base is not installed on ubuntu?
[09:04] <ivoks> line?
[09:04] <abbot45> how do i restart the panel?
[09:04] <ivoks> :)
[09:04] <aardvark> zenlunatic: sure ! hey makaveli did you hear that ?
[09:05] <bluemax> is there another Gnome menu editor besides Smeg that i can use to change the Applications, Places, and System menu titles to something else?
[09:05] <tritium> ivoks, command line interface
[09:05] <JairunCaloth> are there linux drivers for the SB audigy?
[09:05] <zenlunatic> aardvark, sudo -s -H may be dangerous though :)
[09:05] <ivoks> tritium you are spoiling all the fun :(
[09:05] <tritium> ivoks, heh, sorry ;)
[09:05] <mark345> anyone know how to reset the .thumbnail directory in gnome
[09:05] <mark345> ???
[09:06] <tritium> mark345, you can safely delete its contents
[09:06] <mark345> even the folders inside .thumbnail?
[09:06] <abbot45> bluemax, there are a few different ones, but they are basicly gonna do the same thing for you as Smeg.  you can try Menueditor.  but there isnt really a good way.  the next ubuntu release (10.12) will have a full supported menu editor.
[09:07] <mark345> bluemax: smeg is the best, if "other" folder is not showing up, which is a bug, just ad it, then it will show up
[09:07] <bluemax> abbot45: ok thanks... ubuntu isn't as customizable as i was hoping it would be...
[09:08] <abbot45> bluemax, oops.  i mean the next Gnome release, not the next Ubuntu release.
[09:08] <Andril> anyone familiar with autopackage?
[09:08] <abbot45> bluemax, it will be version 2.12.0
[09:08] <bluemax> abbot45: ah, that's good, i didn't want to wait months for the next ubuntu release :)
[09:09] <abbot45> bluemax, i dont know when the next gnome release is.  it may be just as long.
[09:09] <pablo928>  tritium:, how long do you think before breezy is stable enough for a newbie like me to play with? (I can install it on a empty hdd i have).
[09:09] <abbot45> can anyone tell me how to restart the gnome panel?  its killall _____
[09:10] <tritium> pablo928, I'd give it at least a few weeks
[09:10] <bluemax> killall gnome-panel
[09:10] <pablo928> abbot45, killall gnome-panel
[09:10] <abbot45> thanks
[09:10] <abbot45> bluemax, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[09:10] <Geezer041> Tritium i wonder if you can help me a problem?
[09:10] <pablo928> tritiummaybe i'll try it next month.
[09:11] <tritium> Geezer041, possibly.  What is it?
[09:11] <tritium> pablo928, sounds good.
[09:11] <Geezer041>  installed via synaptic xfree866 something. Rebooted and it doesnt work. I only have what looks like a terminal (DOS) Can you help me get rid of xfree866 or get me into a GUI so that i can via synaptic?
[09:12] <tritium> Geezer041, if you're running hoary, you should be using xorg, not xfree86.  Please "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:13] <no0tic> backports are extreeemely slow, it's normal?
[09:13] <Andril> anyone install inkscape?
[09:13] <Geezer041> It is broken or not fully installed
[09:13] <R0bNyc> I've tried to install Kubuntu and Ubuntu and I get this error. I choose reiserfs anyways.. Copying Packages Failed.. Copying packages to the harddisk failed. You may have run out of disk space in the targer /var filesystem.     Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details.
[09:14] <aardvark> anyone know what the current availibility / support there is for writing to NTFS partitions ?
[09:15] <tritium> Geezer041, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg".  Also, please include my nick, as I'm in a meeting, and switching out of this channel.
[09:15] <aardvark> tritium: are you an official Ubuntu dev ?
[09:15] <agent> anyone get qemu to compile?
[09:15] <dead^^> hi everyone. does anyone here know P2P programs to Linux, like DC++ or oDC on Windows. Does Linux even have one that would support DC++ or oDC hublists?
[09:15] <Geezer041> thanks and sorry
[09:16] <goldfish> dead^^: dc++ works on ubuntu, there is a howto in ubuntuforums.org
[09:16] <tritium> aardvark, no, I'm an motu
[09:16] <dead^^> goldfish, really? thanks man
[09:16] <goldfish> dead^^: yep
[09:16] <aardvark> tritium: excuse my French, what the $^#@$%@# is motu
[09:16] <Geezer041> tritium: Thank you. Should i don anything else?
[09:17] <tritium> aardvark, heh, sorry.  We maintain packages in universe, but not main
[09:17] <aardvark> ah said the blind man
[09:17] <tritium> Geezer041, try that for now, and please let me know how things go.
[09:17] <Geezer041> ok, tk
[09:17] <dead^^> goldfish, i'll try it out and if it doesn't work or i'll get stuck, i'll come to you :)
[09:17] <goldfish> hehe
[09:17] <Andril> has anyone installed Inkscape?
[09:17] <R0bNyc>  I've tried to install Kubuntu and Ubuntu and I get this error. I choose reiserfs anyways.. Copying Packages Failed.. Copying packages to the harddisk failed. You may have run out of disk space in the targer /var filesystem.     Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details can aonyone help me
[09:19] <aperson> h'lo all
[09:19] <agent> R0bNyc, most likely you screwed up your partitions :) jutst do ubuntu default install... if you ran out of space in var that probably means you made the partition waaaaaaay too small
[09:20] <agent> R0bNyc, or you can try to resize the partition if you know how
[09:20] <R0bNyc> agent, 9.7gb is way to install ?
[09:20] <evilmegaman> am I here?
[09:20] <pablo928>  R0bNyc, are you installing ubuntu as a 2nd os or the only os?
[09:21] <R0bNyc> 2nd pablo928
[09:21] <tritium> aardvark, why do you ask?  just curious, or did you have a concern?
[09:21] <aardvark> tritium: just interested
[09:21] <tritium> aardvark, okay :)
[09:21] <Geezer041> tritium: Back in to GUI
[09:21] <tritium> Geezer041, super :)
[09:22] <Geezer041> tk
[09:22] <tritium> no problem!
[09:22] <Geezer041> tritium: You any idea now how to make my 855gm intel c**p work properly so i can play AA?
[09:22] <K_Dallas> anyone good with LaTeX here? #latex is so slow to answer if ever
[09:22] <tritium> K_Dallas, what's up?
[09:23] <tritium> Geezer041, how is it not working properly?  And what is AA?
[09:23] <K_Dallas> well i need to plave a vertical text, banner like, in the left margin
[09:23] <K_Dallas> place*
[09:23] <Andril> has anone used this http://autopackage.org/index.html
[09:23] <dead^^> hey, goldfish. how long are planning to stay here?
[09:23] <goldfish> i am always here
[09:24] <Geezer041> tritium: Its a game Americas Army but the graphics are all choppy. They weren't under XP
[09:24] <tritium> K_Dallas, hmm, I haven't dont that before.  Let me see what I can find...
[09:24] <K_Dallas> thank you
[09:24] <john6000> cedega?
[09:24] <K_Dallas> cedega == winex ?
[09:24] <john6000> yep
[09:24] <john6000> but hugher version
[09:24] <john6000> less bugs
[09:24] <K_Dallas> ok
[09:24] <john6000> more compatuble
[09:24] <john6000> compatible*
[09:24] <K_Dallas> never used it (well i never play ;)
[09:25] <john6000> ok
[09:25] <Gianmaria> hi guys, rythmbox says it needs an mp3 plugin to process mp3 files, what's the name of this plug in ? Thanks in advance
[09:25] <john6000> i got steam to run in cedega
[09:25] <eruin> cedega is great
[09:25] <tritium> Geezer041, no, sorry.  I'm not sure about that.
[09:25] <K_Dallas> last game i played was gorilla ;)
[09:25] <john6000> yep cedega is cool
[09:25] <john6000> :)
[09:25] <JDahl> I have a local printer setup with CUPS on one machine. Can other Ubuntu machines use the same printer? I am not sure how to share it using CUPS
[09:25] <tritium> Gianmaria, gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:25] <eruin> Gianmaria: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:25] <Geezer041> tritium: Thanks for all your help, you're a legend!
[09:25] <Gianmaria> tritium: thanks
[09:25] <tritium> Geezer041, no, not really.  But thanks.  :)
[09:26] <Gianmaria> eruin: thanks
[09:26] <john6000> #kubuntu has gone quiet :o
[09:26] <JDahl> K_Dallas, Gorilla was a great game!
[09:26] <g14> OT: The new Microsoft VI - http://packetstormsecurity.org/unix-humor/unixoid_hell.gif
[09:27] <K_Dallas> JDahl: i know ;)
[09:27] <john6000> ha funny
[09:27] <john6000> lol
[09:27] <tritium> K_Dallas, have you use tekdoctk?
[09:27] <IcemanV9> gorilla == donkey kong??
[09:27] <JDahl> shouldn't it be easy to share a CUPS printer with other machines? What would I type in the URI field under network setup?
[09:27] <K_Dallas> tritium what is that? a package?
[09:27] <tritium> K_Dallas, sorry, that's texdoctk
[09:28] <K_Dallas> a package? nope then
[09:28] <K_Dallas> i will try it
[09:28] <tritium> it's part of tetex-bin.  It's a documentation browser for TeX/LaTeX
[09:28] <concept10> what is the apt-get command to search for a package installed?
[09:28] <K_Dallas> apt-cache search
[09:28] <tritium> dpkg -l | grep <package>
[09:28] <K_Dallas> oh :)
[09:29] <concept10> two ways
[09:29] <tritium> apt-cache search will look in the repositories as well
[09:29] <K_Dallas> tritium i will try it when i boot back into debian
[09:29] <K_Dallas> thanks
[09:29] <tritium> K_Dallas, okay, no problem.
[09:29] <concept10> K_Dallas: dallas, tx/
[09:29] <concept10> ?
[09:29] <tritium> dpkg only looks at locally installed packages
[09:29] <Seveas> tritium, apt-cache search looks only in local copies of sourcelists
[09:29] <tritium> Seveas, true
[09:30] <Seveas> and dpkg -l can handle wildcards too :)
[09:30] <K_Dallas> :)
[09:30] <tritium> But it'll list packages that are not installed
[09:30] <Seveas> dpkg -l '*gimp*' for instance
[09:30] <tritium> (apt-cache search)
[09:30] <Seveas> tritium, very true :)
[09:30] <tritium> yep
[09:30] <Seveas> but so can dpkg
[09:31] <Seveas> well, only uninstalled but not purged or unpacked but not configured ones
[09:31] <tritium> concept10, what is it you're looking for?
[09:31] <Fator_Dee> well, this is a refreshment to the old distro/editor/browser wars ;-)
[09:31] <tritium> Seveas, indeed :)
[09:32] <R0bNyc> pablo928, u there
[09:32] <concept10> yes - Im not a regular ubuntu/debian user - but I like ubuntu, im trying to move some tools over to ubuntu from RPMS
[09:32] <zxc> is it possible to run internet explorer on ubuntu?
[09:32] <Seveas> hmm, instead of A/S/L it is now D/D/E (Distro, Desktop, Editor) :))
[09:32] <tritium> concept10, super.  It sounds like you're searching for packages that you have not installed yet?  I'd use apt-cache search
[09:32] <Seveas> zxc, maybe using a lot of tweaking and wine
[09:32] <tritium> zxc, yes, with wine
[09:32] <K_Dallas> zxc: crossover does it but not sure about wine
[09:32] <K_Dallas> so wine it too :)
[09:33] <zxc> ah it must have been crossover, I was wondering why a fully functioning ie was on my desk in ubuntu heh
[09:33] <concept10> I was checking some of the goals for the next Ubuntu release and I am trying to move Fedora's system-config-services to ubuntu
[09:33] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: and you can include multimedia player to the list too :-)
[09:33] <Seveas> hehe
[09:33] <gezanda> hi...i use ubvuntu hoary rc, last version...i'm from italy...how i can install java for this system???with java in internet i can't instead i think ai can use the shell...somebody can help me???
[09:33] <tritium> zxc, winetools from winehq.com will get IE6 installed
[09:33] <pablo928>  R0bNyc, yes
[09:33] <tritium> (it requires the version of wine that's also from winehq.com)
[09:34] <Seveas> gezanda, download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-pacake and run make-jpkg java_bin_filename
[09:34] <Seveas> that creates a .deb which you can install with dpkg
[09:34] <gezanda> thanks a lot
[09:34] <K_Dallas> should one uses -force with dpkg
[09:35] <tritium> not usually, why?
[09:35] <K_Dallas> i meant for installing that java
[09:35] <Seveas> K_Dallas, only when problems arise
[09:35] <concept10> anyone familar with using alien?
[09:35] <carthik_munch> Can the nautilus CD burner burn DVDs successfully? Has anyone tried it here?
[09:35] <Seveas> concept10, yes
[09:35] <tritium> concept10, are there not .debs of the software you want?  What are you looking for?
[09:35] <xukun> anybody using freenx and hoary?
[09:36] <eivind> I have downloaded ubuntu 5.04 livecd, but it hangs under language configuration. Anyone knows whats cause this?
[09:36] <Fator_Dee> carthik_munch: yes it does
[09:36] <carthik_munch> Fator_Dee, thanks, I am going to take the plunge in a bit :)
[09:36] <Fator_Dee> but if you want to be sure try with an rw first :-)
[09:36] <gezanda> my shell says that it's impossible tu find java-pacake
[09:36] <zenlunatic> how can i stop my irc from lagging out when i apt-get large files?
[09:36] <tovella> concept10: when I can't find a particular deb, i use checkinstall to make one from the source code... it's easy.
[09:36] <tritium> gezanda, please do follow Seveas advice, rather than ubuntuguide's.
[09:37] <Bladlus> Hi. When trying to play a file in rhythmbox, it fails and I get this error in the console: Got error opening "file://.....mp3": Could not pause playback
[09:37] <Bladlus> Could anyone help me?
[09:37] <tritium> gezanda, java-package is in multiverse.  Do you have that enabled?
[09:37] <gezanda> yes
[09:37] <john6000> wow linus has a company linus trovaldus
[09:37] <john6000> http://www.transmeta.com/
[09:37] <concept10> tritium: im trying to move a red hat specific program from fedora core to Ubuntu/Debian.  Trying to complete a goal of the next Ubuntu releasre
[09:37] <jeroen_> john6000, that's not Linus Torvalds' company, he used to work there
[09:38] <john6000> oh
[09:38] <john6000> thanks
[09:38] <tritium> gezanda, you should probably do a "sudo apt-get update" then.  If you have multiverse enabled, you should find it
[09:38] <jeroen_> john6000, he doesn't work there anymore though
[09:38] <john6000> ok
[09:38] <john6000> know him?
[09:38] <jeroen_> no
[09:38] <john6000> how does he make money?
[09:38] <jeroen_> read his book though
[09:38] <Svart> does anyone know how to play movies using the ubuntu live cd(warty)?
[09:38] <john6000> ok
[09:38] <jeroen_> he gets paid by OSDL
[09:39] <john6000> osdl?
[09:39] <Seveas> www.osdl.org
[09:39] <zenlunatic> Svart, I doubt its possible.
[09:39] <Fator_Dee> open source development lab?
[09:39] <concept10> people give him money because he is cute
[09:39] <Svart> how come?
[09:39] <tritium> concept10, I see
[09:39] <Bladlus> Does anyone know?
[09:39] <chrisss> i mounted my ntfs partition on /windows... how do i get a (non-root) user to be able to view it
[09:39] <tritium> Well, in that case, there certainly will be no .debs ;)
[09:39] <john6000> oh i see
[09:40] <concept10> tritium: no .debs is probably correct
[09:40] <Seveas> chrisss, give the good mount options :)
[09:40] <Svart> zenlunatic,  how come?
[09:40] <chrisss> ???????
[09:40] <zenlunatic> Svart, Because the livecd doesn't contain the software.
[09:40] <Gianmaria> just curious, which kernel did you chose at installation, what are the differences?
[09:40] <Seveas> chriss: a line in the fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,uid=dennis,gid=dennis,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 0 0
[09:40] <mirak> hi
[09:40] <chrisss> ok.. thanxxx
[09:40] <Seveas> chrisss, but then with your name instead of mine :)
[09:41] <chrisss> obviously
[09:41] <mirak> I am on breezy and can't modprobe fglrx
[09:41] <Svart> it has a movie player, isnt it a bit moronic to include a movieplayer but no codecs?
[09:41] <mirak> what should I do ?
[09:41] <Seveas> mirak, there is no linux-restricted-modules package for breezy yet
[09:41] <jeroen_> john6000, http://www.osdl.org/newsroom/press_releases/2003/2003_06_17_beaverton.html
[09:41] <topyli> mirak: get a stable distribution? :)
[09:41] <Seveas> switching to breezy is also very unadvisable
[09:41] <mirak> Seveas: can I compile it from source ?
[09:41] <Seveas> mirak, if you don't know these basic things, DON'T use breezy...
[09:42] <Seveas> it's gonna be much more unstable the next weeks
[09:42] <mirak> Seveas: I have done it already on mandrake and debian, but I want to know how it is on ubuntu
[09:42] <zenlunatic> Svart, its not moronic its due to patent issues.
[09:43] <chrisss> fk Thank You!!!
[09:43] <mirak> it's too late I can't switch back
[09:43] <chrisss> s/fk/NULL
[09:43] <zxc> how do you open an file in terminal
[09:43] <thenuke> zxc: depends on a file :o
[09:43] <Seveas> zxc, define 'open a file'
[09:43] <Fator_Dee> zxc: what kind of file
[09:43] <Seveas> cat filename is a way :o)
[09:43] <mirak> so any hint ?
[09:43] <Seveas> mirak, yeah: reinstall hoary
[09:44] <zxc> it's a Mathematica "executable" - in properties it says Shell Script
[09:44] <mirak> Seveas: no it will take ages and I will loose my config
[09:44] <Seveas> zxc, ./MathInstaller
[09:44] <thenuke> mirak: Just do not use breezy if you dont have what it takes :D
[09:44] <butcher_> hi
[09:44] <Fator_Dee> mirak: you could save you configs somewhere
[09:44] <Svart> zenlunatic, I am well aware of that, but I would really like to watch som movies before i get my new computer and the Totem is teasing me with its inability to play stuff..
[09:44] <zxc> Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[09:44] <zxc> Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default
[09:44] <zxc> Caught 'Segmentation Fault', shutting down
[09:44] <topyli> mirak: ubuntu's development versions are (at this point of the release cycle) much more unstable than debian unstable
[09:45] <zxc> any idea how to sort that out?
[09:45] <Fator_Dee> mirak: email them to yourself for an example :-p
[09:45] <Svart> zenlunatic, wich makes me one frustrated user
[09:45] <mirak> Fator_Dee: I have of course antoher partition
[09:45] <mirak> that's not the problem
[09:46] <mirak> anyway fglrx is an issue even on hoary because it's not updated always along the kernel
[09:46] <mirak> not now of course, but it was
[09:46] <Seveas> zxc, mathematica installed fine for me, try setting your locale to C or english before installing
[09:46] <mirak> :)
[09:46] <mirak> anyway there is no reason to not learn
[09:46] <zxc> how do I set my locale to C? it's in UK English :/
[09:46] <zenlunatic> Svart, hopefully you'll learn where to place the blame
[09:47] <Svart> he :)
[09:48] <mirak> by the way ot's not wise to say use hoary since you just can't reply yourself to the question
[09:48] <mirak> just don't reply
[09:49] <mirak> if you don't know
[09:49] <tritium> mirak, it is wise to suggest that you use Hoary.  In fact, did you read the topic?
[09:50] <tritium> You're asked to please not use Breezy yet.
[09:50] <mirak> I probably read it
[09:50] <mirak> one day
[09:50] <Seveas> zxc, are you still ther, sorri, i was busy...
[09:50] <tritium> mirak, it changes from time to time
[09:50] <mirak> anyway I will just rebuild the module
[09:50] <mirak> lol
[09:50] <mirak> that's not very hard
[09:51] <mirak> I just though I could go a bit faster by having just an hint
[09:51] <mirak> but no
[09:51] <tritium> mirak, Seveas gave you the needed hint regarding the lack of linux-restricted-modules
[09:52] <mirak> apt-cache search fglrx helped me
[09:52] <Seveas> mirak, it's not possible to give hints on using breezy, it's too unstable for that
[09:52] <mirak> but in fact I tried to get the source
[09:52] <cavedive1> Hmm.. When is the right-click on mp3-file bug gonna be fixed ?
[09:52] <Seveas> we don't even know whether fglrx can work with the current kernel
[09:52] <mirak> apt-get source fglrx-kernel-src tried to load the full 44Mb of sources
[09:52] <mirak> in fact I just need to install the sources
[09:52] <mirak> I mean the src package
[09:53] <mirak> I didn't knew that
[09:53] <mirak> it was my question in fact :)
[09:53] <mirak> Seveas: mmm why not ?
[09:53] <mirak> Seveas: I will tell you then
[09:54] <mirak> the way how modules are bound to the kernel is anoying in linux
[09:54] <Fator_Dee> is there an image viewing program that can handle image files inside zip,rar,tar,etc... files?
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> so that I wouldn't have to extract the,
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> *them
[09:55] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, use archive manager for that
[09:56] <Seveas> they have to be extracted transparently anyway and archivemanager can do that
[09:56] <Fator_Dee> lets see
[09:56] <mirak> ok module-assistant wont help ^^
[09:57] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: well it works (kind of) but you have to open every file separately :-\
[09:57] <mirak> I have installed the sources, and it put them in /usr/src/ and I extracted and it was put accordingly in /usr/src/modules
[09:57] <Fator_Dee> I mean, you can't browse the archive with the viewer which makes it a hassle
[09:57] <mirak> is it normal that module-assistant doesn't list it ?
[09:57] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, can't nautilus look inzide compressed files (i dont use nautilus too much, so i could be telling rubbish here)
[09:58] <Fator_Dee> I use xfce
[09:58] <Seveas> mirak, for unstable os'es yes
[09:58] <Seveas> there the unexpected is as normal as the expected
[09:59] <mirak> I just ask if it's like that on hoary then
[09:59] <mirak> but you just don't know
[09:59] <mirak> so why doing phylosophy ?
[09:59] <Seveas> on hoary there is linux-restricted-modules :)
[09:59] <Seveas> (and yes, on hoaru module-assistant works too)
[09:59] <mirak> with fglrx ?
[09:59] <Seveas> yes
[09:59] <savio[ubu] > hi all
[09:59] <savio[ubu] > http://www.ubuntuitalia.it/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=47&func=view&id=4782&catid=15 <--- can you help me?
[10:00] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: and it seems nautilus can't see inside compressed files
[10:00] <savio[ubu] > how can i change splash screen in ubuntu?
[10:00] <Seveas> savio[ubu] , which splash screen: grub, gdm, an application?
[10:00] <lolobd> how can i close the X session?
[10:00] <savio[ubu] > gnome
[10:00] <Seveas> lolobd, what do you mean
[10:01] <lolobd> I mean, get to a shell without having X running on another
[10:01] <Seveas> savio[ubu] , the login screen or the screen that shows progress between hitting the logging button and having a complete desktop?
[10:01] <zenlunatic> any reason why apt-get would stop downloading large packages in the middle of progress?
[10:01] <qs^chaoticoz> hey there :>
[10:01] <Seveas> lolobd, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:01] <nanot3ch> hey, does anyone know of a plugin for XMMS like the Gaim System Tray icon?
[10:01] <savio[ubu] > Seveas: two
[10:01] <Seveas> zenlunatic, network problems maybe?
[10:01] <Dalkus> zenlunatic, maybe your internet connection got interupted
[10:01] <lolobd> thanks seveas ill try that
[10:01] <Fator_Dee> zenlunatic: network problem? not enough disk space?
[10:02] <zenlunatic> Guys, I'm on irc with the same connection.
[10:02] <Seveas> lol :)
[10:02] <Fator_Dee> on the other end
[10:02] <Fator_Dee> the network problem
[10:02] <Seveas> but network can have problems at ubuntu's end or somewhere in between
[10:02] <neighborlee> how does ubuntu legally make the nvidia-glx available ,,as in im told its not distributable for free ..i'm being told this by a OP in #mandriva..???
[10:03] <Seveas> savio[ubu] , doesn't system->preferences->theme help?
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > Seveas:  ok :)
[10:03] <Dalkus> neighborlee, it is distrubuted for free, its just not open source - I think
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > for cursors of mouse?
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > (Excuse-me for my english, but, i'm italian boy :(
[10:03] <Dalkus> he neabs free as in freedom, not beer.
[10:03] <neighborlee> Dalkus, that was my understanding
[10:03] <Seveas> savio[ubu] , install gcursor for that
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > devo
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > gcursor
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > apt-get install gcursor?
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > :P
[10:04] <Seveas> yes
[10:04] <Seveas> Dalkus, you're right
[10:04] <Seveas> there are some binary-only parts
[10:04] <Dalkus> :)
[10:05] <dash> heh what's going on with the dbus package in breezy
[10:05] <Seveas> dash, massive api breakage
[10:06] <Seveas> so yeah, breezy is broken :)
[10:06] <dash> wooooo
[10:06] <dash> guess i'll upgrade later, then! :D
[10:06] <Seveas> read the changelog: * New upstream version, now with 97% more api breakage
[10:06] <dash> awesome
[10:06] <Amaranth> the new dbus should be the last major API change
[10:06] <Seveas> well
[10:06] <Seveas> apart from c++
[10:06] <dash> Amaranth: this time for sure! ;)
[10:07] <Amaranth> appearently the hope is that this version + bugfixes can be 1.0
[10:07] <crimsun> until the next big api change!
[10:07] <Seveas> but that's an abi change :)
[10:07] <Seveas> o you mean just dbus, i thought you meant in breezy ;)
[10:07] <AElfwine> hi
[10:07] <Amaranth> yeah, just dbus
[10:07] <dash> ok, i will be patient ;) thanks
[10:09] <AElfwine> is it possible to make ubuntu compatible with windows encoding (non UTF-8) ? Some music files looks ugly :(
[10:09] <neighborlee> nm
[10:09] <zenlunatic> wtf my apt timed out on ubuntu.com repositories
[10:10] <Fator_Dee> zenlunatic: it got bored
[10:10] <Seveas> lol :)
[10:10] <Amaranth> zenlunatic: Welcome to the internet. :)
[10:10] <Fator_Dee> In case of doubt, make a joke
[10:13] <evilmegaman> anyone hear me?
[10:13] <AElfwine> no
[10:13] <evilmegaman> ok good :)
[10:13] <evilmegaman> just had to see if anyone can respond to me
[10:13] <Seveas> no, shout a little harder please :)
[10:14] <evilmegaman> My internet connection keeps going out so I have to make sure that I am still connected ;)
[10:14] <Seveas> evilmegaman, keep a ping/mtr/bwm running in a terminal :)
[10:15] <zxc> Seveas, I went afk but what does it mean by "Local C or whatever" it relation to Mathematica
[10:15] <evilmegaman> Ok :) thanks
[10:15] <abarbaccia> hey all - i want to learn how to get involved with ubuntu development - can someone help me out with a good way to start?
[10:16] <crimsun> abarbaccia: you're in u-motu, no?
[10:16] <Seveas> zxc, the locale is the language in which everything is displayed
[10:16] <zxc> hmm, I'm running English UK, so I guess I'll have to change this to Americano? And if so how?
[10:16] <Seveas> zxc, try: LOCALE=EN_us ./MathInstaller
[10:16] <Seveas> on one line
[10:16] <abarbaccia> crimsun, yes - but i dont know where to start
[10:17] <zxc> I'm not installing but yeah I'm running
[10:17] <Seveas> ah ok
[10:17] <Seveas> it installed fine?
[10:17] <crimsun> abarbaccia: there's a page on the wiki outlining how to contribute
[10:17] <zxc> Yup
[10:17] <abarbaccia> crimsun, it would be great if someone would let me like tag along - or package something easy so i can learn the process
[10:17] <crimsun> abarbaccia: also, wiki/DeveloperResources
[10:17] <Seveas> i only had the problem that all fonts looked extremely ugly in mathematica
[10:17] <crimsun> abarbaccia: are you in u-love?
[10:18] <zxc> well, I installed it to zxc/home/ as it wouldn't install properly in usr/local/ but apart from that it was fine
[10:18] <abarbaccia> crimsun, no, not yet
[10:18] <Seveas> does LOCALE=EN_us ./Mathematica work?
[10:19] <zxc> Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[10:19] <zxc> Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default
[10:19] <zxc> Caught 'Segmentation Fault', shutting down
[10:19] <zxc> same error
[10:19] <neighborlee> can someone PLEASE say how its legal for ubuntu/debian to offer the nvidia-glx legally??
[10:19] <Seveas> neighborlee, afaik it IS legal to redistibute it
[10:20] <crimsun> neighborlee: it says so in the license
[10:20] <neighborlee> welll this nut in #mandriva says otherwise
[10:20] <Seveas> can you give me an authoritative source that proves me wrong?
[10:20] <crimsun> neighborlee: that nut is wrong
[10:20] <Seveas> #mandriva is not an authoritative source...
[10:20] <neighborlee> crimsun, I thought so
[10:20] <Seveas> why beleive them and not us?
[10:20] <abarbaccia> crimsun, okay - im going to read on the wiki some - thanks for the advice/link
[10:20] <ivoks> crimsun one can find you everywhere :)
[10:20] <crimsun> ivoks: :)
[10:23] <resiak> neighborlee: Read its license?
[10:23] <zxc> hmm, you know Ubuntu (not the login in screen) but when you actually physically press enter a brown blank screen pops up. Anyway of changing the colour?
[10:23] <neighborlee> resiak, I never did as I trust debian to do the right thing
[10:23] <Recyclable> yo doods
[10:24] <neighborlee> resiak, I know how anal they are about license so <G>
[10:24] <resiak> neighborlee: So do I, but I'm just saying that that's the authoritative source.
[10:24] <Seveas> 2.1.2 Linux/FreeBSD Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux or FreeBSD operating systems, or other operating systems derived from the source code to these operating systems, may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files).
[10:24] <Seveas> verbatim copy from the license
[10:24] <Recyclable> guys, i'm having a real problem in getting the flashplayer plugin installed for firefox.
[10:24] <aVeedo> are you running 64?
[10:24] <Recyclable> yes
[10:25] <Recyclable> A64
[10:25] <aVeedo> I have the same problem
[10:25] <Recyclable> 3000+
[10:25] <Recyclable> aha.
[10:25] <zxc> Recyclable, pretty sure it doesn't work on AMD64
[10:25] <Seveas> indeed
[10:25] <zxc> along with Realplayer
[10:25] <Recyclable> :\\
[10:25] <Recyclable> why not?
[10:25] <AElfwine> I had the same pb, until I decided to install i86
[10:25] <AElfwine> x86
[10:25] <aVeedo> I saw a wiki for gentoo that made it owkr on 64
[10:25] <Recyclable> :(
[10:25] <March-RX8> hello
[10:25] <Recyclable> that am the sucks
[10:26] <aVeedo> so it's possible, but I don't know of any specific tutorials for ubuntu
[10:26] <Recyclable> k
[10:26] <aVeedo> sucks, doesnt it
[10:26] <ivoks> heh
[10:26] <Recyclable> yes.
[10:26] <Seveas> hello March-RX8
[10:26] <Recyclable> No weebl and bob for meeee :'(
[10:26] <Seveas> aaaaahh, weebl & bob :o)
[10:26] <zxc> xD
[10:26] <Recyclable> yes :D
[10:26] <Seveas> PIE!
[10:26] <Recyclable> try pie, try
[10:27] <Seveas> but let's stay on-topic here :)
[10:27] <Recyclable> heard about ubuntu through weebl forums :P
[10:27] <resiak> Piepiepiepiepiepiepie!
[10:27] <Recyclable> want pie now!
[10:27] <Recyclable> :P
[10:27] <Seveas> lol, so it is on topic now :)
[10:27] <Recyclable> yes
[10:27] <Recyclable> hahaha
[10:27] <topyli> humans need pie
[10:27] <Recyclable> yes
[10:27] <aVeedo> french silk pie
[10:28] <{Cricket}> Hey guys got a question... I have a friend that is using ubuntu and hes having trouble with jre in the .bin filetype it is having trouble extracting the .bin and therefore won't let him continue with the installation of jre what file is it that he needs to get to make it able to extract the .bin correctly?
[10:28] <Seveas> {Cricket}, install java-package and run make-jpkg filename_of_java_bin
[10:28] <Seveas> then dpkg -i the_created_debfile
[10:28] <{Cricket}> thanks Seveas =)
[10:28] <topyli> yes
[10:28] <Mahl> Hey its me again :P Is there any way to convert my fat32 disk to linux fs without loosing data within linux?
[10:29] <lolobd> I am trying to get my tvout working, i made a device2, monitor2 and layout2 on my xorg.conf file for the tv, but when i startx with layout2, it still goes to the lcd monitor.. could this depend on the BusID parameter?
[10:29] <Seveas> that's impossible Mahl
[10:29] <topyli> Mahl: no
[10:29] <Mahl> damn
[10:29] <Mahl> So I would have to make all backup first
[10:29] <aVeedo> Borrow a hardrive
[10:29] <usynic> any of you use mplayer-plugin ?
[10:29] <Recyclable> hmmmm
[10:29] <topyli> Mahl: that's a good idea :)
[10:29] <Mahl> the delete partition and convert to linuxfs
[10:29] <neighborlee> Seveas, i'm not a lawyer but that would seem to indicate that its legal..is that your take ?
[10:29] <Mahl> then copy over files?
[10:30] <Kano> hi
[10:30] <topyli> Mahl: yes
[10:30] <Recyclable> couldn't he bring the filesover from the fat32 to linux then delete fat32
[10:30] <Recyclable> brb gotta make lunch
[10:30] <Seveas> neighborlee, it says that it is legal to distribute the binary files in .debs or .rpms
[10:30] <Seveas> so the #mandriva guys talk bull[censored] 
[10:30] <Kano> could anyone tell me if there are kernel patches for hp laptop support in the kernel?
[10:30] <neighborlee> Seveas, that my take as well yes
[10:30] <Mahl> well its about a hundred gigs
[10:30] <neighborlee> Seveas, agred
[10:30] <neighborlee> agreed
[10:30] <Seveas> Kano, what do you need to see supported
[10:31] <Seveas> Kano, my HP works fine without patches
[10:31] <zxc> would a swap improve my performance on games like flightgear?
[10:31] <neighborlee> Seveas, LOL
[10:31] <Seveas> zxc, very likely
[10:31] <topyli> Seveas: it doesn't say that. otherwise, debian would probably distribute it in non-free
[10:31] <Kano> Seveas: i just want to know, i have no hp, but some said some button would work with ubuntu
[10:31] <zxc> how do I create a swap now (after install)
[10:31] <IcemanV9> usynic: mplayer-plugin runs just fine on my box
[10:32] <usynic> IcemanV9: works fine on mine too... but I notied the latest version doesn't have stop/play/fullscreen buttons
[10:32] <Seveas> topyli, then where do you see that it;s not allowed????
[10:32] <usynic> IcemanV9: how do you operate it?
[10:32] <Mahl> Oh well im buying a 250 gig hdd anyhow
[10:32] <Slee> hi
[10:32] <Seveas> Kano, there is a little userlevel trick needed for the volume and lock buttons
[10:32] <goldfish> hi Slee
[10:32] <Seveas> but no kernel patches
[10:32] <IcemanV9> usynic: ah. dunno about that one.
[10:32] <usynic> IcemanV9: mplayer hotkeys don't work either
[10:32] <Slee> can I ask a quesiton here?
[10:32] <Kano> Seveas: could you tell it to me?
[10:32] <goldfish> Slee: Of course.
[10:32] <Seveas> Slee, yes
[10:33] <Slee> I've just burnt ubuntu 5.04 on CD
[10:33] <Seveas> Kano, sure, but there's a webpage that explains it better, hang on
[10:33] <IcemanV9> usynic: didn't go far -- i was satisified with it for now :)
[10:33] <topyli> Seveas: i'd have to check the license to answer that. i'm only trusting debian policy here :)
[10:33] <Slee> and tried to install, but the installer don't recognize my partitions
[10:33] <Seveas> topyli, bad call
[10:33] <Slee> is this known problem?
[10:33] <Seveas> debian legal is filled with fanatists
[10:33] <topyli> true
[10:33] <topyli> but wise too
[10:34] <Seveas> Kano, http://www.cs.duke.edu/~reynolds/nc6000-linux.html it's just for that type though
[10:34] <Seveas> but google is your friend for other types :)
[10:34] <Slee> I have a mandrake currently, and I'd like to erase the partition mounted at / and replace it with unbuntu
[10:34] <Seveas> topyli, go and read the nvidia license
[10:34] <Seveas> it's very short
[10:34] <Seveas> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nv_swlicense.html
[10:34] <Slee> any idea?
[10:35] <Kano> Seveas: the whole trick is using xmodmap?
[10:35] <Seveas> and setkeycodes
[10:35] <aVeedo> If you want ot install it over your old mandrake (loosing all your stuff) then just install it.
[10:35] <Seveas> xmodmap isnt even needed
[10:35] <Seveas> the gnome config tool can handle the raw keys
[10:36] <Kano> Seveas: i do not use gnome
[10:36] <Seveas> Kano, maybe xfce ot kde tools recognize it too, no idea about that
[10:36] <k9mateo> its secure Ubuntu??
[10:36] <Seveas> k9mateo, by default: very secure
[10:36] <topyli> Seveas: see 2.1: customer may install a single copy of the software on a single computer,, and may not .. copy the software
[10:36] <k9mateo> ok...thanks
[10:37] <Seveas> topyli, see 2.1.2: the linux exception :)
[10:37] <topyli> ah
[10:37] <Slee> (goldfish): you remain silent?
[10:37] <Seveas> that's what i pasted here
[10:37] <Kano> too easy... but thanks for info
[10:37] <eob84> has anone been able to configure bootsplash on ubuntu?
[10:37] <k9mateo> too easy???
[10:38] <topyli> Seveas: oh yes. modification is questionable though, beyond unzipping their binaries
[10:38] <Seveas> eob84, grub bootsplash?
[10:38] <Kano> Seveas: i thought it might be more complex
[10:38] <Seveas> topyli, and more isn't needed to create debs :)
[10:38] <eob84> Seveas, yes
[10:38] <topyli> Seveas: too fuzzy for debian :)
[10:38] <Seveas> eob84, there's excellent info about that on the wiki
[10:38] <zxc> when you use synaptic when should the packages appear in your gnome thingy. As it seems to happen randomly, like one day a Debian Section appeared with all the stuff I've got...
[10:39] <Seveas> topyli, as i said: debian legal is filled with fanatists
[10:39] <Seveas> ;)
[10:39] <dockane> if there is any bug in hdparm or problems with that tool regarding the intel carmel chipset, where should i find it ?
[10:39] <blake> helow
[10:39] <blake> what is the command to run rpm's
[10:39] <Seveas> zxc, it depends on the package
[10:39] <topyli> Seveas: and i said, true :)
[10:39] <blake> is it
[10:39] <blake> rpm -U webmin-1.200-1.noarch.rpm
[10:39] <Kano> bye
[10:39] <eob84> Seveas, not sure what you mean by that
[10:39] <Seveas> blake, there is none
[10:39] <blake> damn how do i run them
[10:39] <Kano> thanks for help
[10:39] <Seveas> blake, convert it to a deb with alien and run dpkg. But are you sure there is no deb?
[10:40] <Seveas> blake, what are you trying to install?
[10:40] <blake> webmin
[10:40] <blake> 1.2
[10:40] <Seveas> eob84, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search there
[10:40] <Seveas> blake, that is in the reposiitories
[10:40] <blake> i know
[10:40] <Seveas> ah, 1.180
[10:40] <blake> but i'm not sure how to install it from the repositories
[10:41] <zxc> Seveas, in what way?
[10:41] <blake> there is too many of them
[10:41] <Seveas> that's easy blake:
[10:41] <blake> actually i did install it from there
[10:41] <Sauron21> hi..I was wondering if glib and libc6(I am not sure this is ther right name) is the same thing?
[10:41] <blake> and now i can't fid it
[10:41] <Seveas> just pick the webmin base and all the modules you need
[10:41] <blake> lol
[10:41] <evilmegaman> Is there a howto on how to compile your own kernel?
[10:41] <Seveas> zxc, some packages define menu entries, some don't
[10:42] <blake> so i downloaded the rpm thinking it would be easyer
[10:42] <Seveas> evilmegaman, on the wiki
[10:42] <evilmegaman> ok cool
[10:42] <evilmegaman> Thanks seveas
[10:42] <Seveas> blake, it will NOT be easier, it will be more evil :)
[10:42] <Fator_Dee> Sauron21: no, if they would be the same they would have the same name
[10:42] <zxc> Seveas, but they're all defined under "Run"?
[10:42] <Seveas> Sauron21, libc6 = core system functions glib = graphical functions
[10:43] <Seveas> zxc yes, and from a terminal :)
[10:43] <topyli> Seveas: anyway, it's good to be careful with legal stuff boys when you are a poor non-profit project
[10:43] <agent> anyone get qemu 7.0 to compile?
[10:43] <Seveas> topyli, absolutely
[10:43] <k9mateo> insmod for the AWE64???????    is very very old.......
[10:43] <k9mateo> isa
[10:43] <Sauron21> well...I have been trying to install acouple of programs...and all I get is that I lack GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... ....but I know I have it installed....
[10:43] <eob84> Seveas, there is nothing on bootsplash.... just usplash
[10:43] <Seveas> Sauron21, do you try to compile them or run apt-get/synaptic?
[10:43] <Seveas> eob84, hang on
[10:44] <Sauron21> compile....
[10:44] <Seveas> Sauron21, install libgtk2-dev
[10:44] <Seveas> libgtk2.0-dev even
[10:45] <Sauron21> ...installing
[10:45] <davidr> anyone else forced to uninstall dom-inspector w/ the firefox security patch?
[10:45] <davidr> i was going to file a bug
[10:46] <Seveas> eob84, sorry, it was on the forum: www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:46] <eob84> oh
[10:46] <whyz> oi, what's the commandline package manager in ubuntu called?
[10:46] <webmind> apt-get ?
[10:46] <webmind> or dpkg ?
[10:46] <franklin50> whyz: apt-get
[10:46] <whyz> ok..
[10:46] <Seveas> apt-get is the package-download-and-install tool
[10:46] <Seveas> dpkg is the install-this-deb tool
[10:46] <franklin50> it's amazing!
[10:47] <Seveas> apt-get uses dpkg internally :)
[10:47] <Seveas> whyz, you might want to try aptitude too
[10:47] <Seveas> it has an ncurses interface
[10:47] <whyz> what's the switch for searching with apt-get?
[10:47] <Seveas> (that means a gui-like interface in the terminal)
[10:47] <Seveas> apt-cache search
[10:47] <whyz> okidoki, thanks
[10:47] <Seveas> so not apt-get :)
[10:47] <Kejk_PL> is in Ubuntu aptitude?
[10:47] <Seveas> yes
[10:48] <Kejk_PL> so Aptitude is good idea for someone without XP with apt
[10:48] <Seveas> synaptic would be better
[10:48] <Seveas> but that's just gui
[10:48] <Kejk_PL> hehe, yes, I forgot :)
[10:49] <whyz> i'm trying to configure lufs, but it says it can't find kernel headers.. but the kernel headers are installed according to synaptic
[10:50] <admx> Try linux-headers
[10:50] <anto9us> anyonw know, is it possible to sync my ipaq hx4700 with ubuntu?
[10:50] <mirak> whyz: I think you must create a link
[10:50] <Seveas> k9mateo, bothering people privately is quite impolite, please don't do that
[10:50] <mirak> from linux to the headers
[10:50] <Kejk_PL> I have one question about synaptic: Do it support nine feature like in aptitude, when I am unninstaling software, it removes unneded packges too?
[10:50] <Seveas> whyz, lufs is in hoary too
[10:50] <eob84> Seveas, thanx... as it turns out there is a glitch in the 2.6.10 kernel that causes vesafb to mess up
[10:50] <mirak>  linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/
[10:51] <carthik> I just wrote a dvd using Nautilus, but Windows XP refuses to acknowledge the presence of data on the DVD - what did I do wrong?
[10:51] <mirak> Seveas: do you know how I can make appear a module in module assistant ?
[10:51] <Seveas> and if you want to compile it yourself, you need to apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:51] <eob84> Seveas, atleast only for the debian release
[10:51] <k9mateo> ok.....sorry
[10:51] <eob84> Seveas, is it easy to compile 2.6.11 on ubuntu?
[10:51] <carthik> Fator_Dee, I wrote the DVD, but it is not recognized in Win XP. would you know why?
[10:51] <mirak> Seveas: I have added a file in /var/cache/modass
[10:51] <Seveas> eob84, i believe it is available in universe
[10:52] <k9mateo> not wise it
[10:52] <eob84> Seveas, it is
[10:52] <Seveas> mirak, please note that i can and will not help people who use breezy since that's undoable. Sorry.
[10:52] <eob84> Seveas, just wondering if it compiled?
[10:52] <k9mateo> sorry, seveas
[10:52] <mirak> Seveas: I could be on hoary and ask this question too
[10:52] <Seveas> download the source and find out eob84. Its presence in the archive means it's compilable :)
[10:52] <mirak> Seveas: I don't ask you to resolve my problem
[10:52] <Seveas> mirak, but i know you are not
[10:53] <eob84> Seveas, none the less, thanx for your help... I may be able to fix my problem
[10:53] <mirak> Seveas: so what ? I can still learn valuable informations
[10:53] <mirak> Seveas: about how module assistant works for exemple
[10:53] <Seveas> mirak, there are manpages too...
[10:54] <mirak> Seveas: true
[10:54] <mirak> Seveas: but if you don't know just say it
[10:54] <cirkit_> hey  just got fluxbox in ubuntu with apt-get but im having a problem....there is no .xinitrc file in ubuntu???
[10:55] <dabaSlon> .
[10:55] <Seveas> ,
[10:55] <Fator_Dee> ;
[10:55] <Seveas> :
[10:55] <dabaSlon> haha
[10:55] <dabaSlon> no...
[10:55] <chavo> cirkit_, just create the .xinitrc.
[10:56] <cirkit_> will ~/.fluxbox/startup work the same?
[10:56] <chavo> echo fluxbox > ~/.xinitrc
[10:56] <blake> how do i open apache?
[10:56] <whyz> using apt-get/cache or whatever, how do i see if a package is already installed or not?
[10:56] <Seveas> blake, what do you mean?
[10:56] <Fator_Dee> carthik: sorry, don't know why
[10:56] <blake> wil it be in applications
[10:56] <blake> ??
[10:56] <blake> i mean will it be in apps
[10:56] <Seveas> whyz, dpkg -l | less, or search for it in synaptic
[10:56] <chavo> cirkit_, you using gdm?
[10:56] <blake> the tolbar
[10:56] <Sauron21> Seveas: it worked thx
[10:56] <cirkit_> yeah
[10:57] <Fator_Dee> carthik: does it work in ubuntu?
[10:57] <dabaSlon> blake: it is a daemon, runs at boot.
[10:57] <blake> i might have it installed already it i can't find it
[10:57] <Seveas> blake, apache is a server, you have to configure it and start it
[10:57] <Fator_Dee> (I assume yes, but...)
[10:57] <Seveas> you'll never see it
[10:57] <dabaSlon> open your browser, point to localhost...
[10:57] <chavo> ok, I'm not sure how to autostart apps for fluxbox.
[10:57] <Seveas> unless you go to your website
[10:57] <dabaSlon> that will open your apache process on your computer.
[10:57] <blake> how doi start it?
[10:57] <Seveas> blake, *please* read the manual
[10:57] <blake> and what about webmin is that the same way??
[10:57] <Seveas> on httpd.apache.org
[10:57] <blake> where is it
[10:57] <Seveas> on httpd.apache.org :)
[10:58] <amonkey> i have duplicate entries in my apps menu, how can i get rid of them? menu editor doesn't see multiples(in fact, i used it to make the entry that is in the duplicate folder)
[10:58] <dabaSlon> blake, as well, a book on LAMP is pretty nice to learn out of.
[10:58] <Kejk_PL> webmin: https://localhost:10000
[10:58] <Seveas> amonkey, if no one answers now (i don't know it, sorry), ask Amaranth when he is active
[10:59] <blake> what is lamp/
[10:59] <Amaranth> amonkey: Are you using smeg?
[10:59] <Seveas> Linux,Apache,MySQL,Perl/PHP/Python
[10:59] <dataw0lf|w> linux apache mysql php
[10:59] <amonkey> amaranth: i have no idea what that is
[10:59] <dataw0lf|w> lapp is better
[10:59] <mirak> Seveas: I have fnialy found where it was
[10:59] <dabaSlon> xright, you wanna know about the LA part, it is interesting.
[10:59] <dataw0lf|w> linux apache postgresql python
[10:59] <kingsley_> How durable are Samsung's LCD monitors?
[10:59] <Seveas> postgres dataw0lf ?
[11:00] <mirak> Seveas: I can do it I tell you :)
[11:00] <amonkey> amaranth: i was trying to add a shortcut, and it added a new folder for it with the same name
[11:00] <Seveas> ah ok, you answered it ;)
[11:00] <dataw0lf|w> seveas: that's correct ;)
[11:00] <Amaranth> amonkey: Using smeg?
[11:00] <makaveli> does anybody know how to get more workspaces
[11:00] <makaveli> ?
[11:00] <Amaranth> makaveli: right click on the workspaces area
[11:00] <franklin50> Can someone tell me the difference between vncserver and vnc4server?
[11:00] <amonkey> amaranth: using the menu editor
[11:00] <Amaranth> it's in the preferences
[11:01] <carthik> Fator_Dee, it does... but I had to give it to someone who's on XP
[11:01] <makaveli> thanks
[11:01] <Seveas> vnc4server is simply version 4
[11:01] <Seveas> vncserver is 3.7.X i believe
[11:02] <franklin50> Seveas: Interesting.
[11:02] <Seveas> franklin50, use apt cache show to see the details ;)
[11:02] <Seveas> apt-cache show that is
[11:02] <Fator_Dee> carthik: well, all I can say is that he is using a wrong OS :-p
[11:02] <franklin50> Seveas: thanks!
[11:03] <dabaSlon> Seveas: he wants to start apache from the apps menu...There is a filezilla server that works like that for windows.
[11:03] <dabaSlon> and, it never connects for me...Windows...:)
[11:03] <Seveas> dabaSlon, apache for windows can work like that too
[11:03] <dabaSlon> yeah, I ghad that too, it breaks too.
[11:04] <amonkey> does anyone know how to get the sound in quake3 to work under ubuntu?
[11:04] <Seveas> but asking "how does apache work on linux" is simply too big a question for IRC
[11:04] <dabaSlon> but after I started Linux, so, I never used it.
[11:04] <dockane> i recognized that hda is far too slow ( hdparm -t : 2.3 MB/sec). than i saw that dma is disabled but 'sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda' returns : HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted. any idea ?
[11:04] <linuxn00b> Hey, in windows 2000 I can see my ubuntu share over samba, but when it says "connect as" I put in my ubuntu user name and pass, and it still doesnt work.
[11:04] <amichai> i keep getting an xkb error when i log in to gnome, anyone get that?
[11:04] <dabaSlon> right, I offered to send him a eBook...
[11:04] <Amaranth> amonkey: Ok, I'll assume you're using the old version. http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg <--download this to your home dir, open a terminal and run 'chmod +x installsmeg && sudo ./installsmeg'
[11:04] <dabaSlon> so, he can read, or not...like that guy last night...wants to erase a hard disk with gtparted
[11:05] <Seveas> dockane, you cannot use the ide_generic driver but need specific drivers for your chipset, there was a post on thin in the ubuntu-users or ubuntu-devel mailinglist recently
[11:05] <dabaSlon> format it...
[11:05] <Seveas> Amaranth, no smeg debs anymore?
[11:06] <Seveas> or does the installer pull them in?
[11:06] <Amaranth> Seveas: That's just a script to do all the hard work for you. Removes the old config, gets all the debs, installs them, and cleans up.
[11:06] <dockane> Seveas, so its a commom problem? where do check if generic or some special driver is running ?
[11:06] <Mike> guys do you know why i get this error while trying to load aa module
[11:07] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[11:07] <DenisG> hello guys.
[11:07] <Mike> FATAL: Error inserting zaptel (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/misc/zaptel.ko): Invalid module format
[11:07] <DenisG> give me your xscreensaver-dialogue.
[11:07] <DenisG> i'm on gentoo, and i want it too.
[11:07] <DenisG> give me. now.
[11:08] <Seveas> DenisG, don't troll please
[11:08] <Burgundavia> DenisG, this is not the correct place to ask
[11:08] <Seveas> download the deb, extract it and take the splash
[11:08] <dabaSlon> DenisG: awesome, denis.
[11:08] <DenisG> it just is so great, i would love to have it on my PC :)
[11:09] <dabaSlon> give it now, denis.
[11:09] <linuxn00b> anyone?
[11:09] <DenisG> bah. Don't you have a little bit of humour? :/
[11:10] <Seveas> DenisG, simply download the debfile, or the deb source
[11:10] <amonkey> amaranth: installing...
[11:10] <fabio> hello ppl!
[11:10] <Seveas> so you can compile it too
[11:11] <hybrid_goth> fabio: hi
[11:11] <DenisG> yes, thanks, i will do that :)
[11:11] <exciton> does anyone in here know about temp shut downs? I am running kubuntu and and after a few mins it kills X and drops to a trem stating the the temp has reached 40C and the system is shuting down but I need to rase that because I have a hot running athlon xp thats safe to play up to the 60C range
[11:11] <fabio> hybrid goth, do u know why in some document like CHM's I keep seeing small squares with little numbers inside instead of characters, eg.: 0097 instead of - ??
[11:12] <dabaSlon> exciton: you wanna monitor those, I think.
[11:12] <hybrid_goth> fabio: hmm maybe a interpertation error.. have you tried differnt fonts?
[11:12] <dabaSlon> you using xchm?
[11:12] <fabio> exciton, have u got some BIOS setting for that?
[11:12] <amonkey> amaranth: installing smeg fixed my duplicate folder, but there is a folder i want to delete that doesn't come up in smeg
[11:12] <fabio> dabaSlon, yes
[11:12] <fabio> I am
[11:12] <Amaranth> amonkey: whick folder is that?
[11:12] <dabaSlon> fabio: in what language settings?
[11:12] <Amaranth> err, which
[11:13] <amonkey> Transgaming
[11:13] <fabio> I think UK English
[11:13] <amonkey> amaranth: it appeared after i upped to warty
[11:13] <Amaranth> amonkey: They use a legacy menu, there is no way to delete it with the new spec.
[11:13] <amonkey> hoary rather
[11:13] <fabio> dabaSlon, I think UK English
[11:13] <dabaSlon> oh, ok...
[11:13] <ompaul> exciton, emm the way to deal with that is to include a working fan, it is a protection to safe the hardware from frying, there is no utility that I know that can deal with that - it is a hardware thing
[11:13] <fabio> dabaSlon, anyway I do I check it
[11:13] <exciton> what I really need to do is rase the shut down temp to say 60C but I did not even know that linux could shut down do to heat shy of with a afaik acpi based temp sensor
[11:13] <ompaul> exciton, it is a/ it should be
[11:14] <amonkey> amaranth: so i can't get rid of it?
[11:14] <fabio> hybrid_goth, thanks I could try that!
[11:14] <poopinaboot> whats the command for OOo that lets you select what kind of OOo project you want to start, like the generic one for all of them
[11:15] <family> Hello, I installed the MYSQL server according to the ubuntuguide.org, how can i see if its running and how can i test the connection to it so i can get amaroK working w/ it?
[11:15] <exciton> my bios is set to warn at 155F and shut down at 160F but when kubuntu shuts it down the warn temp is not even reached
[11:15] <hybrid_goth> fabio: np hope it works
[11:15] <Amaranth> amonkey: Not without manual hackery. It should be in /home/<your username>/.gnome2/vfolders/applications
[11:15] <fabio> hybrid_goth, thank, will try just now, and see what happen :)
[11:15] <topyli> poopinaboot: they're binaries called things like oowriter, oocalc, ooimpress
[11:16] <fabio> dabaSlon, do u know some solution?
[11:16] <dabaSlon> im just installing it now.
[11:16] <dabaSlon> :-p
[11:16] <poopinaboot> topyli: i think you misunderstood my question
[11:16] <ompaul> poopinaboot, oomaster but tbh you can start anything from any started ooapplication
[11:16] <topyli> oh, quite possibly :)
[11:16] <poopinaboot> ompaul: I know, I just want the basic one to query me as to what type of project I would like to begin
[11:16] <family> Is anyone capable of answering my question :)?
[11:17] <amonkey> Amaranth: i deleted the point2play file in that folder, killed gnome-panel, but it's still there
[11:17] <fabio> family, what is it?
[11:17] <family> when I type this command in   mysqladmin -u root password <password> it says: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[11:17] <ompaul> poopinaboot, ahh the shell script you are about to write, that is the correct command ... ;-)
[11:17] <family> Hello, I installed the MYSQL server according to the ubuntuguide.org, how can i see if its running and how can i test the connection to it so i can get amaroK working w/ it?
[11:17] <Amaranth> amonkey: I don't know what to tell you. I know nothing about how the old system works.
[11:17] <poopinaboot> ompaul: lol, mmkay
[11:18] <topyli> poopinaboot: you want the dialog that asks you to open a template or create a new document?
[11:18] <dabaSlon> fabio: oh, yeah, I can see it.
[11:18] <poopinaboot> topyli: ummm, sure
[11:18] <fabio> dabaSlon, do u know some solution :)
[11:18] <poopinaboot> ahhh, oofromtemplate
[11:18] <topyli> yes
[11:18] <poopinaboot> thats the prog, thanks for your help everyone :)
[11:19] <fabio> family, I dunno about amarok, about testing MySql u can always try <?php phpinfo() ?>
[11:19] <poopinaboot> its easier than adding all the icons to my taskbar
[11:19] <family> fabio: its not for a webserver
[11:19] <fabio> family, oh right, sorry then
[11:20] <amonkey> amaranth: thanks for your help
[11:20] <dabaSlon> I just saw it.
[11:21] <dabaSlon>  A fix would be to try to link these programs to wxgtk2.5 (unstable
[11:21] <dabaSlon> development line) instead of 2.4, which I'v tried for xchm where it worked
[11:21] <dabaSlon> fine. The only needed change there was the Build-Depends line in the control
[11:21] <dabaSlon> file.
[11:21] <ompaul> family, part of the question can be answered with type the following 'mysl'  after that type 'status' that will show if it is up and running
[11:21] <dabaSlon> in fact, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11167&highlight=xchm
[11:22] <dabaSlon> sorry
[11:22] <family> ompaul: how can i change the root password?
[11:22] <Fackamato> sudo passwd
[11:22] <fabio> debaSlon, thanks will try and have a look at the link
[11:22] <whyz> oi, i heard that x-window-system-core isjust a meta package which is no use and can be uninstalled.. i'm asking this because i want to get rid of the mesa drivers, which forces me to remove x-window-system-core
[11:23] <whyz> but then ubuntu-desktop depends on x-window-system-core
[11:23] <family> sry, root password for MySQL
[11:23] <topyli> poopinaboot: ideally, you'd put some templates in the gnome Templates folder and use them :)
[11:23] <ubuntuPIE> :D
[11:23] <ubuntuPIE> hi
[11:23] <ompaul> family, I have not done it in so long .. I forget let me try to remember
[11:23] <family> nvm, i got it
[11:23] <Amaranth> amonkey: I'll figure out how that format works and might make a converter.
[11:23] <family> thanks for the help
[11:23] <topyli> poopinaboot: then just create new stuff from the desktop instead of launching apps
[11:23] <ubuntuPIE> this live CD rocks!
[11:23] <dabaSlon> fabio: I am looking for the solution too:-p
[11:24] <makaveli> does anyone know where the lockscreen file is so that i can set a keybinding to it?
[11:24] <Fator_Dee> whyz: ubuntu-desktop is also a metapackage
[11:25] <fabio> dabaSlon, as the forum says, wxgtk2.5 is probably the solution
[11:25] <fabio> dabaSlon, but how to change them, via apt-get??
[11:25] <whyz> Fator_Dee, so it's safe to just remove them too?
[11:26] <dabaSlon> haha, I said I am reading it.
[11:26] <fabio> dabaSlon, ops sorry :)
[11:26] <dockane> i checked the ubuntu user mailing list archive for my dma issue and found the advice to put ' amd74xx ' to  /etc/modules. imho this is the driver for the chipset (the guy who was experiencing smiliar problens run a nforce4 mainboard) but how do i find out which driver i should to /etc/modules ?
[11:26] <dockane> *add
[11:27] <dabaSlon> fabio: :) http://pastebin.com/282890
[11:27] <makaveli> anyone know where the executable file is for lockscreen
[11:27] <makaveli> i need to set a keybinding to it
[11:27] <dabaSlon> im looking...:)
[11:27] <fabio> dabaSlon, thanks I am trying to use Synaptic to do the job and see what happen
[11:27] <Jormundgand> What do I need to do to change the name of an account?
[11:28] <makaveli> also does anyone know how i would set a program to start up when the computer starts up?
[11:28] <Burgundavia> makaveli, when you login or when it starts up?
[11:29] <makaveli> when i log in?
[11:29] <makaveli> i need to load 3ddeskd when i login so i don't have to manually aquire my desktops
[11:29] <ompaul> family: mysqladmin - u root -p password <-- that is what you want
[11:29] <Burgundavia> ok, add it to your gnome session
[11:29] <family> I got it, thanks
[11:29] <Burgundavia> system-->prefs-->sessions
[11:29] <makaveli> how do i do that
[11:29] <fabio> dabaSlon, thanks, but that's still confusing :P
[11:30] <makaveli> sweet
[11:30] <makaveli> thanks
[11:30] <dabaSlon> fabio which, the forum? I just dont know where his "control" file is...for xchm
[11:30] <makaveli> did anyone find the location of lock screen?
[11:31] <dabaSlon>  The only needed change there was the Build-Depends line in the control file.
[11:31] <dabaSlon> hah, a treasure hunt.
[11:31] <fabio> dabaSlon, oh right, so how u done it exactly then, cos I am still new to it!
[11:32] <bruno> ba c pas cela
[11:32] <bruno> toujours rien
[11:32] <bruno> je vais le re installer..
[11:33] <tritium> bruno, #ubuntu-fr
[11:33] <K_Dallas> bruno: join #ubuntu-fr
[11:33] <dabaSlon> fabio, I am trying to figure it out too...:)
[11:33] <K_Dallas> which is an 18+ chan btw ;)
[11:33] <fabio> dabaSlon, kk, yes, cos I am trying to see where Build Depends is
[11:33] <besian> what terminal does ubuntu use?
[11:33] <bruno> Preconfiguring packages ...
[11:33] <bruno> (Lecture de la base de donnes... 59121 fichiers et rpertoires dj installs.)Prparation du remplacement de mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr 1.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1 (en utilisant .../mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr_1.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
[11:33] <bruno> Dpaquetage de la mise  jour de mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr ...
[11:33] <bruno> Paramtrage de mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr (1.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1) ...
[11:33] <drfanatic> Ijoin #ubuntu.de
[11:34] <dabaSlon> so you know which file is the control one?
[11:34] <K_Dallas> bruno, yoohoo?
[11:34] <dabaSlon> drfanatic: lol...
[11:34] <bruno> sorry
[11:34] <bruno> it is a mistake
[11:34] <K_Dallas> ;)
[11:34] <dabaSlon> it is a mistake
[11:34] <besian> what terminal does ubuntu use?
[11:34] <dabaSlon> :)
[11:34] <dabaSlon> 7
[11:34] <Jormundgand> besian: gnome-terminal.
[11:34] <K_Dallas> besian: isnt it gnome-term
[11:34] <besian> ok thank you :D
[11:34] <makaveli> ?
[11:36] <fluideye> anyone know why during boot i get pcmcia cant find power supply looped over and over (about 2 minutes) before it moves on and finishes loading
[11:36] <bruno> bye
[11:36] <sladen> fluideye: nope.  Please report it as a bug
[11:36] <mirak> hi
[11:36] <mirak> is it possible to do an install from the live cd ?
[11:36] <Rubin> where are the vt's configured?
[11:36] <K_Dallas> mirak: no
[11:37] <sladen> mirak: in the next version, it will be
[11:37] <fluideye> sladen  it happened after configuring wifi
[11:37] <mirak> ah
[11:37] <mirak> ok
[11:37] <mirak> can I do an install from a warty cd ?
[11:37] <mirak> an upgrade after ?
[11:37] <mirak> and
[11:37] <thoreauputic> could someone on Hoary using xchat (2.4.1) confirm or denu that the /lastlog <nick> command fails ? I can'y get it to work with any user including a test default config user...
[11:37] <sladen> fluideye: if you file a bug, you can put all the details in one place and the person who knows about it can follow it up with you.  It will be a very specific problem relating to that PCMCIA card and that model of laptop.
[11:38] <fluideye> sladen thanks
[11:38] <thoreauputic> I meant "deny" of course :)
[11:38] <sladen> fluideye: and will likely require a workaround
[11:38] <sladen> mirak: yes, you can install from a warty CD and upgrade
[11:38] <fluideye> sladen another question: how do i check on my sound card, it's detected but know volume
[11:39] <nufan> Hello
[11:40] <blake> how can i not be an owner of a folder if i am the only one on my computer!!!!! SOMEONE?
[11:40] <Nintendud> Hi, I just have a quick question... if I installed ubuntu on a partition on a hard drive with fedora core 3 already installed, would it automatically recognize the partition so I could access the files, or do I need to do something special? also, will I be able to boot into both OS's after the install?
[11:40] <blake> i want to own all of them
[11:40] <ompaul> blake, that is not the way of gnu/linux/ubuntu
[11:41] <fabio> Nintendud, I did the same but I lost Fedora
[11:41] <blake> ok well how do i create a file in that folder?
[11:41] <nufan> Nintendud: I believe you'll have to add the partition yourself
[11:41] <dabaSlon> blake, there is root...and apache, so tht apache can only get to some folders...
[11:41] <Nintendud> fabio: could you access the files?
[11:41] <blake> in root or sudo
[11:41] <dabaSlon> throught the web server.
[11:41] <ompaul> blake, which directory are you referring to?
[11:41] <fabio> Nintendud, nope :(
[11:41] <nufan> mount -t
[11:41] <Nintendud> nufan: can you tell me how so I can do it right after the install?
[11:41] <yann_> hi all
[11:41] <Nintendud> mount -t? it's that simple?
[11:41] <nufan> Sort of
[11:41] <fabio> Nintendud, try to do a partition in Fedora before installing Ubuntu
[11:41] <blake> i'm refering to the one that it didn't create for the files to go into
[11:41] <yann_> i've a problem with cedega and steam
[11:42] <nufan> mount -t /dev/hda(num) /mnt/fed
[11:42] <yann_> anyone can help me ?
[11:42] <fabio> Nintendud, try QParted, I think it is alright
[11:42] <ompaul> blake, that does not make sense to me, can you try to explain it another way?
[11:42] <nufan> You'll have to create /mnt/fed
[11:42] <Nintendud> fabio: all I need to do is be able to access the files
[11:42] <blake> it says it needs to be /var/www/foo/bar/index.html
[11:42] <Fator_Dee> yann_: you might get bette help from #cedega
[11:42] <Nintendud> I'm not going to overwrite the fedora partition
[11:42] <nufan> And the /dev/hda(num) refers to the partition number
[11:42] <edgordon> I need to sort of kid-proof a single user in a new ubuntu install. Is there a package that helps set this up? I am mainly concerned about limiting the apps the user can use.
[11:42] <blake> but it only goes to www
[11:42] <Nintendud> nufan: thanks
[11:43] <blake> i need to create the folder foo, and bar
[11:43] <fabio> Nintendud, u mean after u install Ubuntu?
[11:43] <yann_> Fator_Dee, oki and on which server ?
[11:43] <Nintendud> I'll probably install ubuntu tonight ^_^
[11:43] <Fator_Dee> yann_: this
[11:43] <yann_> lol ok
[11:43] <yann_> thx
[11:43] <blake> but somehow i found the index file
[11:43] <ompaul> blake, foo bar are examples, they are not intended to be taken literally
[11:43] <fabio> Nintendud, Ubuntu is pretty quick comparing to Fedora, it took 15mins on my budget pc nad I am a beginner !!
[11:43] <blake> and it's not in the fo/bar directory
[11:43] <blake> oooh
[11:43] <blake> well
[11:43] <thr1ce> haha
[11:43] <thr1ce> try installing crux
[11:43] <nufan> Nintendud: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25200
[11:43] <blake> myapache says it will be that
[11:44] <Nintendud> nufan: thanks for the help!
[11:44] <blake> The default directory index is index.html, meaning that requests for a directory /foo/bar/ will give the contents of the file /var/www/foo/bar/index.html if it exists (assuming that /var/www is your DocumentRoot).
[11:44] <nufan> I'm on a mac, but I'm certain it's exacty the same process
[11:44] <Nintendud> fabio: yeah I'm switching to ubuntu because of the speed.. I'm on a Pentium II 400 mHz
[11:44] <thr1ce> Nintendud, you should run another distro without gnome
[11:44] <fabio> Nintendud, you will gain
[11:44] <blake> so your saying that that's not my document root/
[11:44] <blake> something else is?
[11:44] <fabio> Nintendud, a lot of speed
[11:45] <Nintendud> thr1ce: why without gnome?
[11:45] <Nintendud> I'm running windows xp with this thing
[11:45] <thr1ce> it's a resource hog
[11:45] <fabio> thr1che, why?>
[11:45] <blake> and where ever my document root s is where that index file is??
[11:45] <Nintendud> so I'm pretty sure gnome would be fast
[11:45] <Nintendud> and isn't gnome faster than KDE?
[11:45] <thr1ce> or try xfce, that's a great blend
[11:45] <Nintendud> xfce is nice
[11:45] <blake> is that correct?
[11:45] <Nintendud> I used it.
[11:45] <fabio> Nintendud, I like gnome too
[11:45] <ompaul> blake, the document root is specified in the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[11:45] <Fator_Dee> Nintendud: xfce would be a better choice regarding speed
[11:45] <Fator_Dee> and it's good also
[11:45] <thr1ce> Nintendud, um...depends on the compile; I personally prefer kde to gnome, but either one is getting very nice and developed
[11:45] <Nintendud> Fator_Dee: yeah I know
[11:45] <nufan> Is it possible to install Fedora 4 onto an external hard drive and keep Ubuntu on my internal hard drive?
[11:46] <thr1ce> xfce being my personal favorite; they did HUGE improvements to XFCE 4.2
[11:46] <shinu> why cant i do ls *.txt?
[11:46] <shinu> it says: ls: invalid option -- e
[11:46] <ompaul> Shinu you can
[11:46] <fabio> shinu, strange
[11:46] <ubuntuPIE> ls -e?
[11:46] <trandom> Sorry to just butt in like this : but can someone point me in the direction of a good beginners site or something to help me get to grips with linux??
[11:46] <blake> i have apache 2 so it might be diffrent
[11:46] <blake> i mena
[11:46] <blake> apache 1
[11:46] <thoreauputic> shinu: try ls -b *.txt
[11:47] <ubuntuPIE> :P
[11:47] <lamont> shinu: you have a file named '-e*.txt'
[11:47] <thr1ce> trandom, break things, then learn how to fix them
[11:47] <lamont> try ls -- *.txt
[11:47] <Burgundavia> trandom, what kind of help do you need?
[11:47] <nufan> trandow: ubuntuguide.org
[11:47] <ompaul> blake, well have look for httpd.conf then
[11:47] <trandom> it's not much help
[11:47] <ubuntuPIE> ls -- -e*.txt
[11:47] <thoreauputic> shinu, one of your files has a weird name
[11:47] <shinu> ow yes...
[11:47] <trandom> i need to know how to compile stuff etc...
[11:47] <shinu> sorry for that...
[11:47] <shinu> had a file named -name.......
[11:47] <shinu> thanks a lot :D
[11:47] <ubuntuPIE> :>
[11:48] <shinu> thanks lamont ^^
[11:48] <lamont> trandom: you looking for a beginning linux developers guide, or a linux users guide?
[11:48] <xet7> trandom: for ubuntu specific faqs:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:48] <lamont> (no need to compile stuff to just use the thing...)
[11:48] <Burgundavia> trandom, why do you need to compile stuff?
[11:48] <fabio> Guys, does anyone know what this file is: Build-Depends line in the control
[11:48] <fabio> file. on xchm??
[11:48] <trandom> well... things like bittornado for example
[11:48] <lamont> fabio: ??
[11:48] <trandom> they dont just run themselves
[11:48] <fabio> lamont, sorry, I mean the control file
[11:48] <lamont> trandom: add universe, and it's probably there - everything else is...
[11:48] <trandom> or at least i cant get it to...
[11:49] <lamont> fabio: you trying to understand what a Build-Depends line means, or a particular instance of one?
[11:49] <blake> i found it
[11:49] <blake> and it's in the same place as you said
[11:49] <k31th> yo...
[11:50] <fabio> lamont, i have got a little prob with xchm, it displays little squares instead of characters, e.g 0097 instead of - so I tried thos fourm:
[11:50] <fabio> lamont, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11167&highlight=xchm
[11:50] <lamont> trandom: but outside of the ubuntu faqs, not sure where to point you
[11:50] <fabio> lamont, but is not very clear
[11:50] <ubuntuPIE> what is the default root password on the liveCD?
[11:50] <trandom> i'll look through them
[11:51] <trandom> is ubuntu much like other distos?
[11:51] <trandom> or is it much different?
[11:51] <ubuntuPIE> its linux
[11:51] <jp_> try it.
[11:51] <ubuntuPIE> the liveCD rocks
[11:51] <lamont> fabbione: Build-Depends in the control file is a statement of what packages must be installed in order to build this pacakge.
[11:51] <timmow> trandom: have you been to tldp.org?
[11:51] <lamont> the build daemons automatically install things to meet the build-depends, etc.
[11:51] <Burgundavia> trandom, very similar to other ngome distros
[11:51] <stormy73034> ok i apt-get tightvnc on my ubuntu pc now where can i configure it at
[11:52] <trandom> kl
[11:52] <lamont> ubuntuPIE: there is no root password on the liveCD - that account is locked.
[11:52] <lamont> as is the ubuntu account
[11:52] <nufan> Can you install linux on an external hard drive?
[11:52] <fabio> lamont, any good?
[11:52] <lamont> ubuntuPIE: and sudo gets you to root without a password.
[11:52] <lamont> fabio:???
[11:52] <hybrid_goth> nufan: yea
[11:53] <fabio> lamont, I explained my prob, any solution?
[11:53] <lamont> fabio: if the package requires anything beyond build-essential packages, it will never get into the archive until the build-depends line is correct.  So yeah, it's a good thing.
[11:53] <lamont> fabio: ah, you're missing some unicode font packages, would be my guess.
[11:53] <lamont> nfc which ones though
[11:53] <fabio> lamont, oh right! Where do I get them>
[11:54] <lamont> System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[11:54] <nufan> hybrid_goth: any help?
[11:54] <lamont> fabio: but, like I said, I have no clue what package you need to install...
[11:54] <fabio> lamont, thanks,  so then have to look for fonts perhaps...!!
[11:54] <andreu> hello
[11:55] <nufan> My current plan is to install FC4 on external and have yaboot recognise the external hard disk
[11:55] <trandom> how do you add packages to the package manager???
[11:55] <thoreauputic> fabio: try running  apt-cache search unicode | grep fonts
[11:55] <timmow> trandom: what do you want to add?
[11:55] <poopinaboot> anyone know how to get a printable blank calendar?
[11:55] <thoreauputic> fabio: there seem to be a few packages there
[11:55] <trandom> timmow, bittornado
[11:55] <timmow> trandom: you don't add packages as such, more locations of where to get packages from
[11:56] <hybrid_goth> nufan: what do you want too do
[11:56] <trandom> timmow, but how?
[11:56] <timmow> trandom: on ubuntuguide.org enable extra repositories
[11:56] <hybrid_goth> nufan: juss set your bios to boot from usb then install linux on it
[11:56] <poopinaboot> anyone?
[11:56] <fabio> thoreauputic, thanks I will try
[11:56] <DenisG> poopinaboot: ever used LaTeX?
[11:57] <poopinaboot> DenisG: no, what is it?
[11:57] <nufan> hybrid: Install FC4 on an external hard disk (firewire)
[11:57] <DenisG> ah, well, it is a typesetting software package that can print calendars with the correct settings
[11:57] <DenisG> though its very complex as it is very powerfull
[11:57] <andreu> hello, its posible copy data dvd with gnomebaker?
[11:57] <timmow> trandom: also http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ because i think i remember the ubuntu bittorrent package is broken
[11:58] <DenisG> you might want to look for another solution for your problem first.
[11:58] <hybrid_goth> nufan: yes then set your bios to boot off firewire
[11:58] <hybrid_goth> nufan: if they can
[11:58] <trandom> timmow, ah ha
[11:58] <trandom> timmow, cheers m8
[11:58] <darkaudit> storm getting closer... shutting down...