[12:01] dholbach: do you have an explain a package I should look at? [12:02] that isn't compiled [12:02] apt-get source epic4-script-hienoa [12:03] ok [12:15] good night [12:15] dholbach: goodnight [12:16] good night [12:17] hmm epic uses mkdir in the rules file [12:17] only for the non-standard-stuff [12:17] right [12:18] ok, i'm off [12:18] don't see how they handle the man page [12:18] dholbach: later [12:18] compare with another package - bye :-) === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] hola [12:24] damn, just missed dholbach [12:27] o well [12:27] ya I just finished my package [12:28] should probably upload it [12:34] new version of getwifi has be uploaded [12:43] hm [12:43] is my hal/dbus stack going to be totally broken now? [12:43] hope not [12:44] I need go install a new webserver [12:44] tseng: later [12:44] yep muine is not happy at all === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-151-205-47-40.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jabra => webserver, dinnah, bed === tseng builds new dbus-mono [01:21] tseng, why do you build it ? i thought its in daniels package [01:22] it is [01:22] but its all commented out [01:22] im building it for myself [01:22] ah, ok [01:22] just uploaded the fixed mono.... [01:23] yay [01:23] but the package will still need a lot of love [01:23] of what kind? [01:23] lintian was very loud [01:23] oh. [01:23] missing manpages was the smallest issue... [01:24] but its ok, i'll sort that.... what counts is monodis for now [01:24] yes === womble [~mpalmer@newkevlar.wgong.baileyroberts.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [~koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] ajmitch_: ping? [01:50] hi [01:51] ajmitch_: hi [01:51] ajmitch_: how did the fusa review go? [01:51] didn't get very far, and I've got to leave in about 1 minute.. [01:51] I've got some free time this afternoon [01:52] ajmitch_: ok thanks :) [01:52] from what I saw, it looked fin, built fine [01:52] I just haven't installed it :) [01:52] nor reviewed in detail some stuff [01:52] ajmitch_: apologies for not making the C++ transition meeting. i slept at 1ish and although my alarm woke me up at 5, i just couldn't get out of bed. ill read up the logs later and catch up. [01:53] that's ok === ajmitch_ will bbl, I have to run now [01:53] ajmitch_: k cya [01:54] o_O [01:54] C++ transition is beginning monday? [02:07] tuesday [03:02] anyone still have libdbus-cil installed? [03:02] eh nm [03:04] yes [03:05] doesnt matter === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax7-140.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] so rebuilding dbus-mono and then muine works fine [03:20] should be no problem if beagle cooperates [03:21] afternoon all [03:22] hi === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] whats up ya'll [04:04] working, sadly... [04:04] hahah - its 10 PM over here in NY [04:09] <|QuaD-_> so with all this new dbus stuff, safe to update breezy? [04:15] HAH [04:15] depends if everythign else went through :P [04:16] The following packages will be REMOVED: [04:17] bluez-pin bluez-utils dbus-1 dbus-1-dev dbus-glib-1 dbus-glib-1-dev [04:17] gnome-vlc gnome-volume-manager libdbus-cil libhal-storage0 libhal0 skype [04:17] tomboy ubuntu-desktop update-notifier vlc wxvlc [04:17] theres a hint :P hahaha [04:19] fun === ajmitch_ does an update [04:28] hey, that's less than me [04:35] <|QuaD-_> Lathiat: thats why i didn't do it :) [04:36] <|QuaD-_> mine is less than that [04:36] <|QuaD-_> cuz i don't have skype or vlc === nmorse [~nmorse@adsl-64-217-110-209.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] Anyone here know how to get an ali m5475 sound card working? Ubuntu loads the modules but I still get no sound [04:50] #ubuntu may be more help [04:51] it could possibly be muted, but I don't deal with sound much :) [04:52] |QuaD-_: How can you not have vlc? [04:52] <|QuaD-_> Amaranth: hmm, isn't vlc a media player? [04:52] not muted, just made sure with alsamixergui and with KMix [04:52] |QuaD-_: Yeah, the best. [04:53] <|QuaD-_> Amaranth: i use xine [04:53] |QuaD-_: The interface sucks though, I'm actually thinking about using the python-vlc bindings to make a better one [04:53] xine? pfft [04:53] <|QuaD-_> totem-xine [04:53] heh [04:54] I might be biased, I know one of the developers and use the python-vlc bindings in an app. ;) [04:54] Kaffeine, fools [04:55] <|QuaD-_> :) i don't really use any fancy media formats, xine works fine, just xvid movies [04:55] <|QuaD-_> mp3's i use muine [04:57] yeah, i use muine too [04:57] i'd like to try sonance but it needs gst-sharp which isn't buildable [04:58] <|QuaD-_> never heard of it, what is it? [05:13] <|QuaD-_> why does epiphany require dbus? [05:16] epiphany requires dbus? [05:16] Who thought up that one? [05:16] <|QuaD-_> epiphany-extensions might belong requiring it, but i can't figure out why epiphany-browser does [05:17] what would DBUS be used for? [05:18] It makes no sense in one browser that's part of GNOME [05:18] <|QuaD-_> epiphany-extensions has a dashboard extension, which probably requires dbus [05:42] hrm... gonna have to bootstrap smlnj/i386 for breezy... === lamont adds to his list === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] <|QuaD-_> i wonder if the new dbus will break beagle anymore than it already is === killapop [~allan@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] |QuaD-_: beagle will need at least a recompile to fix dependancies [06:46] <|QuaD-_> Treenaks: i figured that :) === killapop [~allan@203.145.183.210] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Treenaks upgrades and fears [06:48] <|QuaD-_> Treenaks: you are def braver than i [06:48] I know how to fix stuff if it breaks ;) that helps [06:49] <|QuaD-_> Treenaks: haha [07:25] hey guys - should someone make sure that when installing beagle mono is installed as well, because as of right now, it's not [07:27] <|QuaD-_> abarbaccia: thats a dependency issue [07:27] |QuaD-_, thats what i thought - but shouldn't synaptic or apt-get take care of it if beagle is packaged correctly? [07:28] <|QuaD-_> abarbaccia: thats cuz beagle isn't listed as a dependency :) [07:28] <|QuaD-_> *mono [07:28] |QuaD-_, so can't we change that easily? [07:29] <|QuaD-_> abarbaccia: yeah, but when they made the source package, they had problems with the program that automatically assigns dependencies [07:29] if you couldn't tell i'm new to the whole "help with the community" thing - but i have done a decent bit of programming before and a few other things [07:29] <|QuaD-_> it will be fixed shortly [07:29] hurm [07:29] i want to help out with someone on a task they are assigned to so i can learn the ropes [07:30] <|QuaD-_> abarbaccia: as the people here :) [07:30] that's why i'm here - hopefully to help out - learn on something simple then eventually adopt or help out on my own individual package [07:31] <|QuaD-_> abarbaccia: they don't have people maintaining individual packages (i don't think), i believe its a community effort [07:31] alright - since you seem to know what you are doing - what do you suddgest would be the best route to take to become more actively involved [07:32] <|QuaD-_> abarbaccia: cuz of school i haven't been involved. That will change soon :) just ask some current motu's [07:33] what school do you go to? [07:33] boston u [07:34] <|QuaD-_> i don't really go anymore [07:34] <|QuaD-_> i am graduating in a week [07:34] <|QuaD-_> done with all my stuff [07:34] congrats - what major? [07:35] <|QuaD-_> thanks [07:35] <|QuaD-_> ee [07:36] nice nice - im at PSU (well not right now) and i'm working on setting up an internship for this summer / fall [07:36] so im talking to people at IBM (down in austin TX) and lockheed martin (MD) and the NSA (MD) - no offers yet - but hopefully within the week [07:37] <|QuaD-_> i got into psu :) i shoulda gone there [07:37] <|QuaD-_> but it was tooo far away from everything [07:37] <|QuaD-_> my bestfriend went there [07:38] psu is great - a lot cheaper than BU ( i was planning on goign to cornell - got in and all - but too much $$ ) [07:39] <|QuaD-_> heh [07:39] <|QuaD-_> psu is huge [07:40] i love it - the city of boston is huger [07:40] lol [07:40] <|QuaD-_> oh, i LOVE boston [07:41] <|QuaD-_> whats your major? [07:44] computer engineering [07:44] <|QuaD-_> cool [07:45] yea, i like it a lot - some of the real programming stuff is dull - but the "engineering" part is really cool [07:46] <|QuaD-_> heh, cse majors shouldn't be doing that much programing [07:46] <|QuaD-_> i took most of the cse classes at bu, i just wanted to stay ee [07:46] tell that to my school - they think computer engineering and computer sci should be the same until senior year [07:47] <|QuaD-_> oh, here cse is basically ee, they just focus more on the computer end of ee [07:48] <|QuaD-_> but anyone, i am sure they would love to teach you how to become an motu if you really want to === susus [~sz@p5089F7A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089F7A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] alright - sounds good - thanks for the help bud [07:55] and congrats and graduatiopn [07:55] <|QuaD-_> thanks === xtat_ [~xtat@caffeine.rapidpacket.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] Who is the firefox maintainer? The latest update broke adding bookmarks and I thought I would let them know [08:24] firefox is maintained, so file a bug in bugzilla [08:24] ok [08:26] g14, is this bug you are having? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10643 [08:26] ^/is/is it/ [08:26] robitaille, sure is [08:29] robitaille, thanks === Gagatan [bgrotan@ozelot.stud.ntnu.no] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === kurros [~wade@92-14.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] <\sh> morning [09:08] g'morning === ivoks [~ivoks@wall.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [~spacey@145.33.144.141] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] <\sh> ok...trying to rebuild new pykde packages === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] <\sh> is there a "debian/changelog" macro for vim available? or emacs? ,-) [10:00] \sh: dch in package devscripts [10:01] <\sh> Treenaks: thx :) [10:18] <|QuaD-_> i noticed that ubuntu calendar never came for april or may [10:19] |QuaD-_: poke teh jdub [10:19] <|QuaD-_> hehe, i was liking the girl in different poses that just hid enough to make her pictures socially acceptable [10:21] keep her then ;) [10:21] <|QuaD-_> i haven't taken her off :) just wanting a new one [10:26] eh dch is king [10:26] \sh: there's apparently an emacs mode in devscripts-el, too [10:26] only found out about that recently [10:26] (if you're that way inclined, anyway) [10:27] i tried to get my head around emacs, im too vim ingrained [10:27] but emacs seems to do some cool stuff i havent seen work so well in vim [10:27] i probably just need to learn to use vim better [10:31] <\sh> thom: i will check it :) === koke [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] <\sh> hmmm [10:50] <\sh> if i'm making a call to dh_installinit -- defaults 23 e.g. and have an init.d script available, do I have to call update-rc.d again in debian/postinst? 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[01:42] ajmitch_: fine thanks :) === ajmitch_ tests out the rebuilt ethereal debs [01:43] I'm trying to package shtoom [01:43] but I have a problem [01:44] a python setup.py clean -a generates shtoom/__init__.pyc [01:44] so it can't make the diff.gz :( [01:44] koke: shtoom is already packaged [01:44] please don't do it agian :-) [01:44] doh! [01:45] http://people.ubuntu.com/~daf/packages/shtoom [01:45] it'll go into main soon [01:45] great, I didn't break ethereal [01:46] is there any wiki page to find this kind of packages?? [01:46] I think is the third one already packaged I try to package this week [01:47] thom: do you have an archive of your latest NM packages? [01:50] ajmitch_: no; it's next on my list after kernel security patching [01:50] you got sucked into the kernel team as well? [01:51] yeah [01:51] idiot me [02:03] <\sh> i can't work like that [02:04] <\sh> everything is fscking here...:( === bradb_ [~bradb@MTL-ppp-146985.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] <\sh> ser is just finished [02:08] wtf... [02:08] <\sh> need only to fix one issue with lintian [02:09] \sh: woop [02:09] i connect my canon 300d to comp, and usb-storage doesn't load [02:09] <\sh> thom: well...at least u can help me to get a clue ;) [02:09] <\sh> dh_installinit -- defaults 23 [02:09] paste the error here? [02:09] ivoks: does it work in ghtumb? [02:10] <\sh> script-in-etc-init.d-not-registered-via-update-rc.d" [02:10] Treenaks i don't work at all [02:10] Treenaks gthumb starts after usb-storage [02:10] ivoks: put it in "playback" mode (instead of "take pictures" mode) [02:11] Treenaks heh, playback mode [02:11] canon 300d :) [02:11] ivoks: review mode then? [02:12] ivoks: the mode you switch the camera into when you want to view the pictures on the flashcard, instead of taking new ones [02:12] ok.. gtkam see it [02:12] Treenaks canon 300d doesn't have that mode... you can see pictures in all modes === womble [~mpalmer@eth1859.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] ivoks: oh.. ok.. it's modeless :) [02:13] Treenaks it has too many modes to have one more, stoopid one like playback mode :) [02:13] this is a dSLR [02:13] ivoks: I know the 300d (by name) :) [02:13] ivoks: it's just that most cameras have one :) [02:14] i know [02:14] i like gtkam [02:15] nice... there is gimp plugin for raw photos [02:15] wow... i could do some serius editing on linux :) [02:15] ivoks: :) [02:16] nice, gthumb2 works too... [02:16] too bad, this isn't usb-storage... [02:17] i was so sure it is... [02:18] hm... shouldn't gnome-volume-manager detect camera and start gthumb2? [02:18] should [02:18] hm... [02:18] yep, unless you're using breezy & that bug hasn't been fixed ;) [02:19] it is breezy :) [02:19] ivoks: you say it's not usb storage? [02:19] or it doesn't recognize your particular camera, in which case report... [02:19] ah :) === Amaranth is down to two things stopping the dbus upgrade [02:19] ajmitch_ it looks like it isn't === ajmitch_ is lagged++ [02:19] ivoks: try 'modprobe sd_mod' anyway [02:19] usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage [02:19] USB Mass Storage support registered. [02:19] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 2 [02:19] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 [02:19] ajmitch_ i did... [02:19] no effect [02:20] ok [02:20] Amaranth: you're doing well, there's a bunch of stuff synaptic wants to remove :) [02:20] ok... [02:20] on debian and gentoo I had gnome-volume-manager [02:20] well, it wants to remove a lot but a lot of that is because it's been replaced with new stuff [02:21] ivoks: ah, running breezy? then volume-manager got deinstalled when dbus got upgradeed. re-isntall gnome-volume-manager [02:21] but libdbus-cil and tomboy are the two i can't get rid of [02:21] Amaranth: it wants to remove kde :) [02:21] Treenaks broken deps... [02:21] ajmitch_: oh, you're one of those [02:21] you could argue that kde could be replaced by gnome ;) [02:21] ivoks: wait for a short while [02:21] Amaranth: yes, I'm a GNOME user that has KDE installed [02:21] Treenaks no problem... [02:21] ivoks: the fixed version has been uploaded [02:21] ivoks: expect stuff to break in breezy *shrug* === Treenaks usually just plugs the CF into a separate reader.. works too [02:21] thom that's ok [02:22] thom i lived with sid for years... i know that feeling :) [02:22] expect things to seriously break soon :) [02:22] ajmitch_: I must not have that much of KDE installed. I get nothing from KDE removed. [02:23] :) [02:23] things are going to start to seriously break on monday [02:23] Amaranth: kdebase-kio-plugins depends on dbus-1 [02:23] Amaranth: it'll be fun! [02:23] yeah, maybe i'll get something done in universe for once :) [02:23] all those C++ packages... === ajmitch_ will hopefully do some work for a change [02:24] ok... dist-upgrade 80MB :) [02:25] breezy is much more active then sid [02:25] that's fairly small [02:25] only because sid is slowing down for the sarge release at the moment :) [02:25] i know [02:26] and most breezy action is because of sid [02:27] hm... [02:28] maybe if I restart gnome... :) === ajmitch_ needs more bandwidth [02:28] this package is taking an age to upload === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] i'll be back === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0753.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] hm... i have to start gthumb manually... [02:36] malone+motu meeting in < 8 hours [02:36] time for me to sleep, package finally uploaded (hopefully it gets accepted) [02:36] ok.. what's malone? :) [02:36] *gasp* [02:37] the bugtracker we should all use for universe :) [02:37] launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone [02:37] ah.. right [02:40] night all, I'll try & be here in 7 hours or so :) === bradb [~bradb@MTL-ppp-146985.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] <\sh> grmpf [02:48] <\sh> amazing...ppv cluster is crashing... [02:49] \sh, run it on ubuntu ;) [02:49] <\sh> ogra: hehe...seachange has a solution running under linux at all ;) beta stage ;) [02:50] <\sh> but whats annoying, i can't work on my packages [02:50] \sh, so request that they run it on ubuntu then ;) [02:53] <\sh> ogra: it's not a matter of OS, it's a matter, that I can't do my work for ubuntu ;) [03:03] <\sh> ok...building pykde again with patches applied ;) === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] <\sh> building ser again === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === diamond [~diamond@193.1.100.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] using cdbs, how can i rename a bunch of *.py files to *.bittorrent without breaking everything? [03:49] i've tried putting the script in build: and install:: [03:49] see, "using cdbs" was your first mistake [03:49] uh oh ;p === thom g;d;r [03:50] i've even tried renaming the originals in makebuilddir (before anything else happens) but dpkg-source ignores the rename [03:52] yeah, well debhelper rules files scare me [03:53] so i use cdbs :) [03:53] and cdbs doesn't scare you? not having a clue what's going on under the hood frightens me far more than writing dh_foo\ndh_bar [03:54] well, i think that's my problem [03:54] i need to get this script in _right_ before dh_install [03:55] so i'll probably have to use the crappy way === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-061-070.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] everybody should learn to write a rules script using just dpkg-dev. Just so you have a clue how package building works. [03:55] yes [03:55] *shudder* [03:56] not because you want to do that most of the time, but so you _understand_ how it all fits together. [03:56] cdbs makes python packages so easy though [03:56] *shrug*; you should still know how to do it with just dpkg-dev. [03:57] anybody can write code which is so clever that he's unable to debug it himself. This is an instance of the same problem. [03:57] (or design a cipher he can't break himself, and so on) [03:58] the fun is where someone transitioned a package to cdbs and didnt know how dpkg-dev works.... mono currently has nice things in this respect, like mono-*.install in the debian dir and additionally dh_install in the rules :) [03:59] installing everything twice :) [03:59] yeah, and then you suddenly get some silent breakage because some semantic or another changed. [03:59] yep... [04:00] Mithrandir: there was something about that on joelonsoftware. Basically if you code something using all the trick and such you know you are qualified to read and edit it. [04:01] Amaranth: You might be thinking of Ken Thompson's quote: "Debugging software is much harder than writing it. Thus, if you program as cleverly as you can, you are by definition to dumb to debug it." === Danten [~danten@h223n6c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] womble: that's it [04:01] joel was quoting it [04:02] yeah, it's a classic saying. [04:02] it's still true, though. :) === Amaranth give up on making sense [04:02] i just reread what i typed [04:02] fuck, i did it again [04:02] english is my first language, so this is really bad :) [04:02] haha [04:02] oh === Amaranth needs more caffeine === Nafallo hands Amaranth a can of jolt :-) [04:13] <\sh> i need a clone === Amaranth has some red bull [04:14] \sh: of anything in particular? [04:14] <\sh> diamond: no..only a clone of myself ;) [04:14] <\sh> and a faster laptop === diamond grins [04:15] <\sh> thom: ping [04:16] \sh: clones are no good, go read Alien: Resurrection ;-) [04:17] <\sh> Nafallo: well...then I need another wife and make a clone by myself ;) [04:18] \sh: hehe [04:28] *sigh* se.archive.ubuntu.com is really slow to rsync from. [04:28] atleast the first part of it. [04:29] (receiving file list ...) === Amaranth debates losing tomboy to get new dbus [04:35] it just needs to be recomp'd, no biggie [04:35] i thought the API completely changed [04:35] oh? [04:36] hmm, how can cognito be at 0.8 when it's git underpinnings are only at 0.1 (0.2?) [04:36] well in that case... [04:36] 0.10 is going in soon [04:36] Amaranth: just make sure tomboy is running before you remove it ;p [04:36] crimsun: i just uploaded 0.10 [04:36] thom: ja [04:36] thom: yeah, that'll work [04:37] \sh: ack, kinda [04:37] tseng, ping [04:37] too bad vlc is going to be removed too [04:37] which i need [04:37] Amaranth, there are other players [04:37] ogra: PyMusique uses python-vlc [04:38] oops [04:38] there is a python-vlc ? [04:38] (yep) [04:38] yeah, not sure is jlj made it or if it existed before [04:38] s/is/if/ [04:38] I'm waiting on wxwidgets 2.6 to be introduced into Debian before asking for a resync of vlc [04:39] wait, newer vlc's use 2.6? [04:39] no point in rebuilding in Breezy against 2.5 since it was ripped out of Debian's archive for licensing issues, among other things === Amaranth goes to watch TV [04:39] Amaranth: Debian Sid's vlc uses wxwindows 2.4; Ubuntu Hoary's uses wxwidgets 2.5 [04:39] 2.6 is clean now ? [04:40] ogra: I presume not yet, since I haven't seen any indication from Ron, the Debian developer, of it building from HEAD, and that's one of his qualifications for uploading 2.6 [04:41] ah === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] <\sh> *grmpf* [04:52] <\sh> have to leave for repairing the cluster... [04:52] <\sh> and again more then 10 hours work [04:52] <\sh> cu later guys [04:52] bye \sh === koke [~koke@155.210.232.128] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] ogra: is dholbach here? [06:14] why doesn't anyone in here use screen? [06:14] jabra: i think you exagerate somewhat [06:15] and it's hard to run xchat in screen anyway [06:15] it just seems like everyone quits at the end of the day [06:16] I dunno your probably right [06:33] doko, nope, working on his thesis.... he'll be around for the malone meeting === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.146] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] jabra: I use screen but not for IRC [06:45] anyway, my laptop sleeps with me :) [06:45] at the same times, I mean [06:47] doh, launchpad zope dead again :( [06:47] I was trying to do my malone homework :) === bur[n] er [~norml@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] anyone knows what to do with https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/618 ?? === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [~daniel@td9091a81.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] dholbach: welcome :-) [07:14] hey [07:17] hey ? [07:18] ogra: hm? [07:19] btw, does anyone else think malone looks like ass? :) [07:20] dholbach, hm [07:20] :) [07:20] Amaranth: thoroughly no comment [07:20] Amaranth, did you see it in the "prehugefont" time ? [07:20] nope [07:21] with correct fonts it looked quite good [07:21] we're getting older, so don't mind the fonts :-) [07:21] heh [07:21] thats what glasses are for, no ? [07:22] all that space on the sides wasted but the columns are squished together, things are cut off and overlapping, and there is text that is styled like buttons [07:22] yep [07:22] you can all tell this bradb, kiko and bjornt in 2h40m :-) === Amaranth hacks at it with platypus and greasemonkey [07:22] heh [07:23] oops, i deleted everything on the page === Amaranth looks for undo === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:25] hi [07:25] hey herve! [07:26] what a surprise! :-) [07:27] what do you mean? [07:27] seeing you her [07:27] e [07:27] :) [07:27] working day is over... right? :-) [07:28] YES [07:29] dooh, de.a.u.c has wrong Release.gpgs or something? === Nafallo tries to sync from a.u.c next *sigh* [07:29] that happens when the mirror is updating [07:30] archive.ubuntu.com is a round-robin, isn't it? [07:30] Amaranth: nope [07:30] so... [07:30] how many have broke their system with the new dbus/hal? [07:30] :-) [07:30] herve: thanx for warning ;-) [07:31] synaptic wanting to remove ubuntu-desktop was enough a warning for me [07:31] ahh, same :-) [07:31] what does it want to remove as well? sound-juicer? [07:31] herve: I'm waiting on tomboy and vlc fixes first. :) [07:32] tomboy needs a bigger than the dbus fix ;-) [07:32] as ogra told me [07:32] Amaranth: btw, I haven't had those issues with neither se.a.u.c nor a.u.c [07:32] Amaranth, with a little luck mono is fixed (basically at least) with my next upload.... then i'll get to tomboy [07:33] ok... so vlc as well [07:33] yay! [07:33] more than the dbus fix? what do you mean? [07:33] it's not only dbus that broke tomboy :-) [07:33] lol [07:35] or did i say something wrong, ogra? :-) [07:35] hmm... if we forget about dependencys.... nope :) [07:36] oh, you mean the fact that all mono apps have no depencenies now? [07:36] yep [07:36] this too [07:43] btw, the topic is stale === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | => http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaloneUniverseWishList <= | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Meeting with Malone crew: 12 May 20:00 UTC [07:43] that was fast [07:47] what do you expect [07:47] we are the masters of the universe! [07:48] you blink and things happen? :) [07:48] yeah... stuff breaks ;-) [07:48] hehe [07:48] lol [07:48] then you sneeze and a planet explodes :-) [07:49] herve: ey! I like ubuntu planet :-P [07:49] or planet ubuntu ;-) [07:51]