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cirkit_how do we apt-get the gkrellm themes?12:00
cirkit_is it just apt-get install gkrellm-themes ?12:00
amonkeyanyone know how to get q3a sound working?12:00
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fabiothoreauputic, I am just downloading the few Unicode ones but from Synaptic12:01
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lotusleafwoo! only 18 hours left in my ubuntu download.. warp speed mr. 56k!12:03
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JormundgandHow do I hide an application's entry in the list of active applications?12:05
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Xanaduhello all12:05
Xanaduwhat's happening tonight?12:05
fabioohhh, still that stupid prob!!! :(12:06
poopinabootgrrrr, i just want to create a calendar12:06
poopinabootstupid stupid stupid12:06
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lotusleafXanadu: downloading ubuntu at 56k ;)12:06
lotusleaf5.xxK/s fun!12:06
Xanadulotusleaf you'll be wiating a while then ;)12:06
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timmowpoopinaboot: open up a terminal, type cal :)12:06
Xanaduhow far r u?12:06
poopinaboottimmow: I need a presentable, graphical calendar12:07
lotusleaftimmow: only 18 hours left down from 30 some12:07
Xanadulotusleaf where in the world r u?12:07
lotusleaf271MB/615MB 44% complete12:07
lotusleafXanadu: USA12:07
Xanadulotusleaf isn't there someone near u with ubuntu?12:07
lotusleafI know someone within a few steps of walking distance who has broadband but I don't wanna ask. So instead, I suffer. ;)12:08
Xanadui think it'll b quicker to drive ;)12:08
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timmowpoopinaboot: sorry bad sense of humour12:08
lotusleafXanadu: nope12:08
lotusleafXanadu: well maybe12:08
timmowlotusleaf:shipit.ubuntu.org12:08
Xanadulotusleaf i didn't think anyone in the US still had 64k connections12:08
Xanadulol12:08
lotusleaftimmow: nothing has arrived yet but thx ;)12:08
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poopinaboottimmow: heh12:08
lotusleafXanadu: I still have a 300 baud modem too ;)12:08
Xanadulotusleaf: ooh a collector's item! maybe u should set up a BBS with zModem12:09
ayralexWhen I last upgraded my PC (bought a new case) I got rid of my 56k modem12:09
thoreauputicpoopinaboot: not sure exactly what you need but have a look at xfcalendar12:09
thoreauputicpoopinaboot: it's an xfce calendar but available a package12:09
lotusleafayralex: aww, you just trashed the modem after all it did for you? :(12:09
thoreauputic* as a12:09
lotusleafayralex: I hope you let someone adopt it12:09
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ayralexI did let someone adopt it12:10
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poopinabootthoreauputic: thanks, I'm just looking for a calendar of May that I can print12:10
shinudo i make a .tar.gz archive with: tar -c backup/|gzip - > backup.tar.gz ?12:10
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karljpanyone know how to play dvds in totem? specifically ac3 audio?12:10
thoreauputicpoopinaboot: ah, I see12:10
karljpI can watch the video, and I can play them with sound in xine12:10
thoreauputicpoopinaboot: surely you could find such a calendar on the web as an html file somewhere ?12:11
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timmowwhy does noone else seem to want to use wifi and ethernet???12:11
poopinabootthoreauputic: ummm, where?12:11
timmowAll configurations i can find are for one or the other12:11
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thoreauputicpoopinaboot: :/ Google?12:11
timmowi want both, so that ethernet goes down when wifi is plugged in, back up when wifi is out12:12
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dockanegot problems activating dma for my ide drive. (maxtor 160 gb, onboard controller is udma3/ata66 capable). after searching in ubuntu user list archive i now believe its because of generic modules (ide-cd ide-disk ide-generic). am i right with that ? my system is an ibm intellistation m pro (intel 840 chipset)12:12
karljpyou need laptop-net12:12
karljptimmow: that's designed to solve that problem12:12
karljpand is slated for integration into breezy by default12:12
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karljpdeals with network intfs they way you expect.12:13
bluemaxwhat is the best video player to use for nsv streams?12:13
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jaggiHello my fello ubuntu'ers.  I'm new to ubuntu and I installed the opera*.deb package, but it's not in the menus.12:13
karljpso no trying to dhcp on eth connections that don't have link, and more graceful failover12:13
timmowkarljp: you know any good docs for setting it up?12:13
karljpapt-get install latpop-net and it just worked for my purposes12:13
jaggiI'm not sure how to add it to the Applications menu12:13
karljpit uses the eth when it's plugged in, the wireless if it's not12:13
paulproteusbluemax: I have never heard of that streaming media extension.12:14
lotusleafhey, my 56k download of ubuntu will be done in 18 hours. If shipit doesn't send me my CDs before then, will I win a prize? :D12:14
timmowkarljp: does it do it on the fly, or do you need to reboot?12:14
ayralexlotusleaf, yes: an ubuntu CD12:14
karljpjust does it.12:14
bluemaxpaulproteus: nsv is nullsoft streaming video, it's winamp's internet tv format12:14
lotusleaflol12:14
lotusleafayralex: score ;)12:14
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paulproteusbluemax: It seems mplayer and xine should both be able to play it.12:14
dockanejaggi : if you are new to ubuntu www.ubuntuguide.org may be interesting for you. if you are looking to add somethin to application list you need a menue editor ircc.12:14
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sleeperhi12:15
sleepercan some one help me please12:15
karljpnot until you tell us what you want12:16
sleepersomeone have use john the ripper?12:16
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thoreauputicsleeper: once or twice12:16
bluemaxpaulproteus: ok... i've tried mplayer because supposedly it can play nsv's but the problem is the stream is usually full and have to try several times to connect, so how do i turn on looping on mplayer? i can't find any button or anything in options. all i found was the command line -loop flag12:16
sleeperi have instaled with my ubuntu12:16
timmowkarljp: thanks12:16
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sleeperbut now i dont find it12:16
sleeperwhere it install?12:17
dockaneto be precise : ""HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted " is my problem12:17
paulproteusdockane: sudo?12:17
jaggirecommend a menu editor?  (going to ubuntoguide.org too)12:17
cirkit_hey guys was wondering what run level do i set to have text login for startx instead of a gui login?12:17
Fackamatowhat's ubunto?12:17
gmadockane, I had that message when I didn't have the correct module for my chipset loaded. have you checked that properly?12:18
cirkit_2-5 i think are all gui12:18
cirkit_isnt there text mode?12:18
thoreauputicsleeper: I think the command is just john, but run dpkg -L john | grep bin to find out12:18
dockanegma, this is what i wrote above12:18
dockanepaulproteus, is definetly not my problem12:18
wdhcirkit_, i dont think it is managed by a runlevel though.. i guess you can edit some gdm config file12:18
cirkit_hmm?12:19
gmadockane, not since I logged in you didn't. last thing I saw you say about it was what chipset you have, not which modules you've loaded.12:19
cirkit_so how do you get text loging12:19
sleeperok thx12:19
CarlKwhat do I have to apt-get to get aclocal ?12:19
thoreauputiccirkit_: easy way is to uninstall gdm12:19
cirkit_where is that located?12:19
thoreauputiccirkit_: ?12:19
cirkit_the gdm path12:19
thoreauputiccirkit_: just uninstall gdm with synaptic or apt-get12:19
CarlKhmm, how come I have /usr/share/aclocal/ but no aclocal command?12:20
thoreauputiccirkit_: or run  ` sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm12:20
dockanegma, i am running an intel 840 chipset. which module do i have to choose ? (my modules http://pastebin.com/282913 )12:21
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timmowhow do i safely remove cardbus cards?12:22
timmowive just been pulling them out, but i'm not sure i should12:22
dockanegma, maybe this helps, too : lscpi -v ( http://pastebin.com/282914 )12:24
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timmowcirkit_: do you need text login, and then start x?12:24
karljptimmow: you're meant to be able to, though it depends on the card12:25
karljpsome drivers it's not recommmend, like the delkin cf reader for instanace12:25
gmadockane, sorry, disappeared there for a bit.12:25
siplustimmow: i have a button right next to it that i push12:25
dockanegma, you were afk ?12:26
dockanegma, or the pastebins have disappeared ?12:26
thoreauputictimmow: cirkit_ left12:26
timmowkarljp: im getting a bad dmesg when i pull out my wireless card12:26
gmano, I'd just hidden IRC behind another window12:26
gmagot the pastebins12:26
karljpwell, don't do that then :)12:26
karljpeven windows says you shouldn't12:26
dockanegma , i see np12:26
karljpjust that it normally whines and puts up with it :)12:26
timmowkarljp: so i should rmmod ndiswrapper then pull it out12:27
karljptimmmow: I believe so.12:27
karljpI'm having a hard time finding the doc that says how to do this proeprly12:27
karljpthere's some notes that apply specifically to ndiswrapper12:27
karljpbut it was basically rmmod first12:27
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cirkit_since i dont have gdm anymore in ubuntu how do i pick between window managers?12:28
timmowkarljp: I get this even when the driver is not loaded12:28
timmowkarljp: PCMCIA: socket ce31442c: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power12:28
karljpno idea sorry :)12:28
timmowkarljp: ok thanks12:28
karljpbt that's better than what I get, which is the occasional kernel oops :)12:28
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gsuvegre12:28
thoreauputiccirkit_: for example, run ` startx /usr/bin/fluxbox `12:28
gsuveganybody use dbdesigner ?12:28
cirkit_i just run startx and fluxbox starts...i have a .xinitrc file in ~/.xinitrc now12:29
cirkit_but how do i get a menu to pick kde or gnome?12:29
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thoreauputiccirkit_: you don't12:29
karljp(that was what gdm was for!)12:29
cirkit_so i cant pick any other wm?12:29
thoreauputiccirkit_: unless there's a package for xtart in the repos12:29
cirkit_oh crap12:29
cirkit_sigh12:29
evilmegamanwhen configuring my new kernel, would leaving things I didn't know about make the system slower?12:30
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thoreauputiccirkit_: I just told you hoe you ccan run any window manager above12:30
SymGeosisevilmegaman, possibly.12:30
evilmegamanoh12:30
thoreauputiccirkit_: just specify the one you want12:30
SymGeosisEverything uses memory, and has to be loaded. The more stuff to load the longer it takes.12:30
evilmegamanThat sucks. Should it take a while to compile the kernel image symgeosis?12:30
evilmegamanoh12:31
gmadockane, not having much luck...12:31
dockanegma, what does that mean ?12:31
thoreauputiccirkit_: like this is easier:  startx `which gnome-session`  or startx $(gnome-session)12:31
evilmegamanBut once it's past the boot process, It will be normal speed symgeosis?12:31
SymGeosisevilmegaman, been awhile since I last compiled a linux kernel but it's not exactly considered "quick."12:31
cirkit_startx gnome-session12:31
cirkit_or startx kde-session?12:31
evilmegamanok12:31
gmadockane, probably that I can't help you12:31
gmabut I'm still looking12:31
SymGeosisevilmegaman, nothing should be too noticable.12:31
evilmegamanok cool :)12:32
thoreauputiccirkit_: startkde - but that syntax won't work - see above12:32
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thoreauputiccirkit_: startx $(startkde)  should work12:32
jaggidockane, interesting.. I'm working with the files because the Help mentions using nautilus to edit the menus, but it doesn't seem to work.12:33
cirkit_could i use a startup file in ~/.startup to start apps since i dont have gdm?12:33
SymGeosiscirkit_, just copy your startx script and modify the client portion for startkde or gnomesession.12:33
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dockanegma, i basicly don't know what do replace in /etc/modules and what to put there instead (intel 840 /carmel)12:33
thoreauputiccirkit_: was there a good reason for uninstalling gdm?12:33
jaggiUnder Help -> System Admin -> Customizing menus12:33
cirkit_ls12:34
thoreauputiccirkit_: I don't understand why you want a cli login when you don't know the commands you need12:34
cirkit_thoreauputic, so that I could use .xinitrc or startup file since gdm wont allow me too12:34
dockanejaggi, maybe you need to restart your window manager ? i  haven't tried that yet, sorry12:34
thoreauputiccirkit_: yes it will12:34
jaggiit mentions I can use nautilus, but I have to add menus to a certain URI.. the URIs it gives include: Applications menu for all users    applications-all-users:///12:34
cirkit_it will?12:34
thoreauputiccirkit_: use ~/.xsession and choose the default option12:34
evilmegamanif I installed fglrx, Will I have to do modprobe fglrx to get it to use the fglrx drivers?12:34
jaggibut the file browser (nautilus) doesn't accept that URI  :)12:34
jaggidockane, no problem.. if I figure it out, are you interested?12:35
evilmegamanthe new kernel is "it"12:35
thoreauputiccirkit_: .xsession is the file to writ12:35
thoreauputic*write12:35
dockanejaggi, of course. do you speak german btw ?12:35
jaggithe help does include this, and also includes information on the actual methods to add things by hand, using files (including the format of the files)12:35
thoreauputiccirkit_: this is an example of asking the wrong question ...12:35
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jaggino, English and some Spanish and Persian :)12:35
lotusleafHe took the Windows CD, broke it, and gave thanks by installing Linux12:36
mirakhow to install the kernel when you are using deboostrap ?12:36
mirakthe instal fails12:36
jaggilotus, I installed ubuntu and the partitioning messed up my windows partition :(12:37
jaggiwindows won't boot now (I'm kind of happy about that.. but not really)12:37
jagginow all my partitions have the warning/error in fdisk, "Partition X does not end on cylinder boundary"12:37
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lotusleafjaggi: that's not a bug that's a feature12:38
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jaggilast time I let the auto-partitioner handle the partitions for me.12:38
jaggilotus, but after I installed ubuntu, my windows blue-screens on boot.12:38
lotusleafjaggi: shame on you for installing Windows in the first place ;P12:38
dockanejaggi, there is going to be something in gnome 2.12 : http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2005/05/036-gnome/menuedit.png12:38
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jagginah, not shameful.  Necessary for many softwares.  :)  I could be all "gung ho" about linux (I've been using it for 11 years)... but in the real world I have responsibilities and have to use some software, sometimes, which is windows-based :)12:39
jaggiso, for those who HAVE to use windows ..12:39
cirkit_thoreauputic, Im using gdm instead to make things easier....but for example the .xinitrc file I have does not startup apps12:39
unfbona nit12:39
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jaggianyhow :)12:39
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Xanaduanyone here installed postgresql?12:40
jaggilooks like a menu editor.. that's nice.  In German :)12:40
thoreauputiccirkit_: don't use .xinitrc - use .xsession in debisn based distros for this12:40
lotusleafjaggi: no one HAS to use M$:Windows, they CHOOSE to, whether they admit to it or not is another matter.12:40
Xanadui installed from synaptic and am not quite sure what to do from here - it won't let me make a database12:40
gmadockane, try loading piix and running hdparm again.12:40
cirkit_thoreauputic, can i see an example of your xsession please?12:40
cirkit_i dont have one by default12:41
thoreauputiccirkit_: and make sure you have an & after each app , and make the last line your window manager12:41
cirkit_i have 3 choices of window managers12:41
thoreauputiccirkit_: which apps do you want to start?12:41
dockanegma, "modprobe piix" ?12:41
gmayeah. long shot.12:41
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cirkit_thoreauputic, xset m 5 & xchat12:42
thoreauputiccirkit_: post your .xsession in #flood12:42
jaggilotus, whatever :)12:42
cirkit_thoreauputic, how about pastebin??12:43
thoreauputiccirkit_: OK fine12:43
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cirkit_thoreauputic, i dont have an .xsession12:43
thoreauputiccirkit_: *sigh* you need one12:43
thoreauputicdid you read what I said?12:43
lotusleafjaggi: you see? I win. ;)12:43
cirkit_i have .xsession-errors12:43
jaggilotus, nah12:43
cirkit_yeah but how can i paste what i dont have12:43
thoreauputiccirkit_: you create the file12:43
JormundgandHow do I get Eterm to automatically snap to the bottom of the buffer when displaying large amounts of data (e.g. after an apt-get update)?12:44
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lotusleafjaggi: too late, you abandoned the plate! And while you weren't looking I fixed a new meal on it.12:44
thoreauputiccirkit_: or just do  cp .xinitrc .xsession12:44
JormundgandIt's currently simply filling the screen allotted area and then sitting there.12:44
jaggilotus, not worthwhile to dispute over the boundary of "have to".. actually, maybe it is!  :)12:44
jaggiwhat's the definition of what "must be"?  :)12:44
cirkit_so i can use the .xinitrc settings but renamed the file to xsession?12:44
thoreauputiccirkit_: yes you can12:44
dockanegma, :( http://pastebin.com/28292012:44
jaggilotus, windows are necessary for circulation and light :)12:45
excitonI am having a porblem with my kubuntu install when my cpu hits 41C the system halts and shuts down stating crit temp reached and for an athlon xp 41C is like the temp it sits at when the computer its off lol any ideas on how I can rase the shut down temp or disable this all together because my bios does a great job of telling me when my cpu gets to hot all on it's own12:45
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cirkit_ok ill do that now12:45
thoreauputiccirkit_: they do roughly the same thing - I won't go into the details12:45
Jormundgandexciton: buffer overflow.12:45
gmadockane, do you know if piix was already loaded?12:45
cirkit_thoreauputic, ok good i have copied the .xinitrc file over to ~/.xsession and renamed it to that12:46
excitonJormundgand: ? What do you mean?12:46
Jormundgandexciton: That, and you're in the wrong channel. Join #kubuntu. And use sentences.12:46
dockanegma, nope sorry12:46
Jormundgandexciton: Buffer overflow - line too long to stay in short-term memory.12:46
thoreauputiccirkit_: when you log in with gdm just choose the default session in the sessions list12:46
dockanegma, should have looked before12:46
cirkit_thoreauputic, i can leave that file with the way it is already set right?12:47
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_ToNhO_i don't know why Ubuntu have a distribution with KDE12:47
thoreauputiccirkit_: only if it does what you want12:47
excitonJormundgand: I have asked in #kubuntu I'm there now but no one seems to know what the problem is and this is a problem with linux not kde or gnome! so my dm has nothing to do with the problem12:47
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cirkit_thoreauputic, but in that xsession file down at the bottom i have a line "exec /usr/X11R6/bin/startfluxbox"12:47
cirkit_should i delete that since i have more than 1 window manager to pick from?12:47
thoreauputiccirkit_: that isn't where startfluxbox lives in Ubuntu12:48
gmadockane, I'm afraid I've outlived my usefulness in that case.12:48
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thoreauputiccirkit_: type  ` which startfluxbox ` to see the path12:48
dockanegma, thank you very much for your time and help12:48
gmano probs12:48
Jormundgandexciton: Fixing that depends entirely whether you use GNOME or KDE. It'll be a simple option fix, but I don't know where in KDE it is.12:48
gmanot that I was much use!12:49
thoreauputiccirkit_: or just use ` startfluxbox` (it should be inthe path)12:49
cirkit_thoreauputic, /usr/bin/startfluxbox12:49
thoreauputicOK use that12:49
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proegssilbCan someone help me swap between installed bootloaders?12:49
cirkit_thoreauputic, do i need to add any other of the window managers paths in that xsession file or just the fluxbox one?12:49
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thoreauputiccirkit_: sounds like you copied an .xinitrc from another distro12:49
excitonJormundgand: if you can tell me how to fix it in gnome I can do that I have both gnome and kde installed12:49
cirkit_thoreauputic, i copied it from the slack box12:49
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thoreauputiccirkit_: umm.... .xsession just starts one at a time12:50
thoreauputiccirkit_: slack does it differently12:50
excitonI all was have a back up dm for when something goes wrong and if all else fails I can do just about everything command line12:50
cirkit_but i only have the path for fluxbox in xsession. what if i start gnome or kde...xsession doesnt have the path, only for flux right12:50
thoreauputiccirkit_: I suggest you use the package manager to install things: it takes care of all this for you12:51
thoreauputiccirkit_: if you have gdm you just chooose the one you want12:51
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cirkit_ok12:51
cirkit_ill test now12:51
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bluemaxis there a way i can use a ; (semicolon) in a terminal command without bash using it as a separator?12:53
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bluemaxa url i need to use includes it12:53
cirkit_No what i wanted did not start at all12:53
cirkit_thoreauputic, can you paste your xsession file in pastebin please?12:53
timmowbluemax use \; instead of ;12:54
thoreauputiccirkit_: I don't currently use .xsession, but I can probably find an example if you wait a minute12:54
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cirkit_ok12:55
flyermansomeone here who got GIMPSHOP run?12:55
bluemaxtimmow: perfect, thank you12:55
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thoreauputiccirkit_: just join #flood and I'll post a simple example for you12:57
cirkit_ok12:57
proegssilbrephrase: Could someone help me get my (other) computer to the point where it can boot properly?12:57
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timmowproegsslib: maybe if you explain what is wrong12:58
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anemiat1does ubuntu have an option of KDE?12:59
proegssilbtimmow: In mandriva, I can only load a prompt. Assuming I can get grub set back up, ArkLinux will work, but LILO doesn't know about ark12:59
anemiat1??01:00
anemiat1does ubuntu have an option of KDE?01:00
erpelit's called (k)ubuntu01:00
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timmowproegsslib: i don't know about lilo, sorry01:00
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anemiat1got it01:01
anemiat1thanks01:01
proegssilbtimmow: K, is there some way I can find grub and set it as the bootloader?01:01
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nderjmGreeting from Jamaica01:02
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nderjmI'm attempting to setup a DHCP Server on a Warty box01:02
anemiat1when i install kubuntu, will I be able to keep windows and make dual boot?01:02
SymGeosisflyerman, do you have a link for an Ubuntu package for GimpShop; As a long time PhotoShop user, I'm rather intrigued.01:03
nderjmanyone with networking experience?01:03
nderjmI've got the packages installed, and dhcpd configured01:03
Burgundaviaanemiat1, yes01:03
anemiat1thanks again!01:03
nderjmits accepting requests01:03
nderjmbut keeps saying "no free leases on 192.168.0.0"01:03
nderjmi've been googling for hours, and no clue as to whats up01:04
chasehow do i install something as suid root? im trying to use smb4k, but im getting this error "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)"01:04
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nanot3chchase: suid root? Are you installing the program as root to begin with, or as a user?01:04
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timmowproegsslib: you can use a live cd to install grub i think01:05
chaseim running it as a user01:05
chasenanot3ch, i installed it from apt01:05
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nderjmso anyone have an idea what the deal is with the error message?01:05
Burgundavianderjm, what are you trying to do?01:05
nanot3chchase: Type sudo su to gain root access...then try running the program.01:05
nderjmBurgundavia: Im setting up a DHCP server01:06
nderjmBurgundavia: Its up and running01:06
nderjmBurgundavia: But when clients try to connect, it says there are no free leases on subnet 192.168.0.001:06
pjwIs QT library under Ubuntu 64-bit?01:06
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nanot3chchase: suid root is a problem with tmp files, I believe01:06
chaseright so i need to sudo every time i run the program? i cant just put it in the the visudo file?01:06
timmowproegsslib: it would help if you have a working grub install.  Then you can add an option to menu.lst01:06
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nanot3chchase: if you change permissions on /tmp for read / write, etc for all users...then you could run it as a user I believe.01:07
nderjmBurgundavia: I have it spitting out the errors to the err stream, so i can see whats happening01:07
anemiat1is there any similarity between arklinux and kubuntu?01:07
Burgundavianderjm, hmm, no idea01:07
timmowbye everyone01:07
chasenanot3ch, okay ill see what works01:07
nanot3chchase: alright...if none of that works...01:07
Burgundaviaanemiat1, ark is rpm, ubuntu/kubuntu is debian01:07
nanot3chchase: run "chmod 4755 /usr/bin/executable", as well as on any files connected to it...01:08
nanot3chchase: but I think the tmp fix should be your first try.01:08
chaseokay01:09
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Unfrgivenis anyone else having problems with the latest breezy ndiswrapper? i get an "operation not permitted" message when loading the driver (even as root).01:12
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dockanei ve got a similiar problem: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-May/034202.html   (not a cdrom but a ide hd). what should i add to the /etc/modules to get it working ? ( lspci -v/listmod : http://pastebin.com/282923 )01:12
nderjmGreetings from Jamrock01:14
nderjmJamaica...01:14
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shadeofgreyokay i need help01:14
shadeofgreyi installed cdrdao01:14
leitaoolease, i have a problem with my keyboard and ccedillha.. anyone with similar problem?01:15
shadeofgreyand then installed k3b01:15
hybrid_gothdoes mplayer play wma01:15
shadeofgreyusing apt-get01:15
shadeofgreyis there a step i missed?01:15
nanot3chhybrid_goth: Yes, with w32codecs...it worked when I played CHOM, so it should.01:15
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hybrid_gothok ty01:15
shadeofgreybecause k3b doesnt show up in anty of my application menus liek it should and every time i run it from bash it runs but gives serious amounts of errors01:15
nanot3chshadeofgrey: It isn't broken is it? :P01:16
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shadeofgreyand i dont want to use nautilus to burn CD's01:16
shadeofgreynano:  if i had to guess id say its...  well om its way to being very broken01:16
cristianpico01:17
nanot3chshadeofgrey: I mean in synaptic, does it recognize it as a broken program :P01:17
shadeofgreyhow do i remove k3b totally?01:17
shadeofgreyi dunno01:18
shadeofgreywhat would it be under?01:18
nanot3chshadeofgrey: ...It will tell you when you open Synaptic if a package is broken :P01:18
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leitaoromaia : ainda nao veio..01:19
leitaosorry01:20
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shadeofgreyokay indtallation didnt generate any errors01:20
shadeofgreybut its not in my programs list at all01:20
shadeofgreyand i let packaghe manager do everything01:20
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shadeofgreydo i need KDE installed or something?01:20
nanot3chshadeofgrey: do killall gnome-panel to reset the menu (If you updated it without logging in / out, run that.)01:21
amaroAnyone here has a hotmail email account?01:21
nanot3chshadeofgrey: You shouldn't need KDE...it should work in Gnome....01:21
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nanot3chamaro: You having problems accessing the hotmail site?01:21
shadeofgreyolkay i did a kill all and its still not there01:21
nanot3chshadeofgrey: killall gnome-panel? If so, it should be under Sound & Video...hmmm...01:22
amaronanot3ch, no, onceI log in, it says something about some agreements I have to accept.01:22
shadeofgreywhere is it supposed to be?  in the sound and video ? because its not theere01:22
nanot3chamaro: oh, can't help you there :), if it was a site thing, it might've been that you need Wine with IE 5.01:22
thoreauputicamaro, don't use hotmail - it's evil :)01:23
amaronanot3ch, hehehe.. I hope it never comes to that :)01:23
nanot3chshadeofgrey: Sound and Video, that or System Tools (Although that wouldnt make sense.)01:23
amaroI have tons of email accounts scattered everywhere...01:23
nanot3chamaro: Oh, eventually Microsoft will "upgrade" the site...that time will come soon :P01:23
nanot3chamaro: You need gmail :P01:23
amaroI already have 3 gmail accounts01:23
nanot3chLOL01:23
shadeofgreynope01:23
amaroand 150 invites01:23
shadeofgreyits not in any of them01:23
amarowant some?01:23
shadeofgreyanywhere01:23
amaro:)01:23
nanot3chamaro: Nah, I have an account :)01:24
nanot3chshadeofgrey: and running k3b via command line works as it should (It gives errors, but it'll load)?01:24
shadeofgreyyes01:24
shadeofgreyk3b: WARNING: KGenericFactory: instance requested but no instance name or about data passed to the constructor!01:24
shadeofgreythats the warning i get01:24
nanot3chHmm01:24
shadeofgreyimma uninstall it01:25
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shadeofgreywhats a gnome front end for cdrdao?01:25
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Razor-XI know there's Gnomebaker01:25
Razor-Xbut, then again, i'm using Kubuntu so....01:25
Razor-XGTK apps work fine here, except I can't theme them01:25
nanot3chshadeofgrey: Maybe you do need KDE, as KGenericFactory is a KDE include library.01:25
shadeofgreynan: okay how do i install kde?01:26
rhys-hynawsDoes anyone know of a program that is better than Open Office?01:26
] BreliC[amaro: i'll take an invite :)01:26
] BreliC[rhys-hynaws, what are you looking to do?01:26
nanot3chshadeofgrey: jsut install kde-base in Synaptic or via apt-get01:26
siplusrhys-hynaws: better in what way?01:26
K_Dallasrhys-hynaws: LaTeX by miles01:26
rhys-hynaws] BreliC[, wordprocessing... etc.01:26
K_Dallas;)01:26
thoreauputicrhys-hynaws: that completely depends what you want to use it for01:27
nanot3chshadeofgrey: Since its just a core lib that you need, you dont need all of the language packages unless k3b REALLY requires them...then yo just install as you go :P01:27
siplusi know a lot of people like abiword.. never used it myself01:27
SymGeosisrhys-hynaws, AbiWord is rather nice.01:27
rhys-hynawssiplus: Open Office freezes on me for no reason.... I have a 3Ghtz P4... and 512MB ... i don't know what I did wrong to make it hate me!01:27
] BreliC[rhys-hynaws, koffice, but i guess that would require the kde libs01:27
siplusrhys-hynaws: are you using 1.1, or 2beta?01:27
thoreauputicrhys-hynaws: you might want to look at abiword01:27
rhys-hynawssiplus, they both hate me. the beta moreso01:28
nanot3ch] BreliC[: meh, Koffice barely supports MS Office formats :)01:28
siplusha01:28
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SymGeosisrhys-hynaws, remove the beta. It messes up my OpenOffice installs too.01:28
K_Dallasrhys-hynaws: you'd better solve your problem with OO, uninstall and install the new Beta201:28
] BreliC[nanot3ch, doesn't matter if you are not dealing with MS people :)01:28
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K_Dallasuninstall and reinstall, that is the trick01:28
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nanot3ch] Brelic[: :P, true...01:28
SymGeosisrhys-hynaws, or get the new, unofficial beta package.01:28
Razor-Xif I chmod my mount point for an NTFS partition, why is it still that only root can read from it?01:29
] BreliC[K_Dallas, hmm, that sounds *stragely* like a windows tactic ;)01:29
K_Dallasi know but OO is not really a unix thing ;)01:29
rhys-hynawsSymGeosis,  the problem occurs when I click on misspelled words... a new beta pack wouldN't really help would it?01:29
SymGeosisrhys-hynaws, try this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30866&page=201:29
K_Dallasand each times i install a new beta it messes things up01:29
SymGeosisrhys-hynaws, not sure. *shrugs*01:29
nanot3chrkys-hynaws: I know a quick fix to that problem, spell properly! :)01:29
] BreliC[lol01:29
SymGeosisI know that I have problems when I have the old beta and 1.1 installed at the same time.01:29
siplusor you could try staroffice :-p01:30
rhys-hynawsSymGeosis, I beta-tested that script. lol01:30
nanot3chsiplus: ...OpenOffice is based on StarOffice....whats the point? :P01:30
K_Dallasstill i have to say: go with LaTeX01:30
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rhys-hynawsWhat makes LaTeX > Abiword ?01:30
siplusnanot3ch: shhh01:30
K_DallasLaTeX: is the only thing if you do scientific writing01:31
K_Dallasnothing beats that01:31
nanot3chsiplus: haha....01:31
thoreauputicrhys-hynaws: a good front end for LaTex is Lyx-qt01:31
K_Dallasand yet it has much more to offer01:31
rhys-hynawslol01:31
rhys-hynawsWell I am a MD01:31
rhys-hynawslol01:31
SymGeosisFeh, vim. ;-)01:31
K_Dallasthoreauputic: Lyx is rather encrypted, Kile is a front end01:31
rhys-hynawsKile?01:31
K_Dallasor why not texmacs01:31
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rhys-hynawsK_Dallas,  Which do you prefer?01:32
hybrid_gothQuestion  I have my  Linux box my moms winblows box and my sis windows box. all my media is on my sis box how could i retrieve and put it onto mine with out hard copies?01:32
thoreauputicK_Dallas: Lyx is LaTex for Human Beings ;-)01:32
siplusVi won't crash on you...01:32
K_Dallasme, i have been doing latex for the past 10 years01:32
nanot3chhybrid_goth: Samba / SMB if they are all networked.01:32
hybrid_gothsiplus: Vim is nice01:32
K_Dallasi do not touch OO or MS office01:32
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nanot3chMS Office is crap to begin with. :P01:32
hybrid_gothnanot3ch: yes on a wifi connection01:32
rhys-hynawsK_Dallas, You're like a puritan.01:32
_hp_how do i automount partitions?01:32
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K_Dallasbe right back01:32
nanot3chhybrid_goth: as long as they are, then Samba should be able to sniff out the computers. All you have to open is file sharing on the computer with media files...01:33
siplushybrid_goth: SMB is an easy way, if not look into using scp/WinSCP01:33
nanot3chhybrid_goth: and put the files in the Shared Documents, then you can snatch em all up01:33
thoreauputicrhys-hynaws: have a look at Lyx-qt: you might like it, but it's... different01:33
hybrid_gothnanot3ch: so i set the file sharing on on the windoze box open smb/samba and am good to go01:34
thoreauputicrhys-hynaws: and of course Lyx doesn't do MS formats01:34
Razor-Xanyone here use a trackball?01:34
nanot3chhybrid_goth: Yes, if you are all networked and file sharing is enabled, Samba will find the windows computer and you can then commence the file stealing :P01:34
hybrid_gothok ty01:34
nanot3chRazor-X: They make those? :P01:34
rhys-hynawsthoreauputic, Okay... Lyx-qt is installing now...01:34
Razor-Xif Word's all you need, you can try AbiWord01:34
hybrid_gothbrb01:34
Razor-Xnanot3ch: ;-P01:34
_hp_how do i get partitions mounted when the system boots up?01:35
rhys-hynawsthoreauputic, but can I conver my OpenOffice docs to whatever lyx uses? lol01:35
thoreauputicrhys-hynaws: be aware you really need to read the help files01:35
nanot3ch_hp_: You have to edit /etc/fstab....01:35
Razor-X_hp_: add to your /etc/fstab01:35
thoreauputicrhys-hynaws: I doubt it01:35
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jaggiI'm back01:35
_hp_Razor-X, nanot3ch thank you01:35
jaggiedit menus with the examples in /usr/share/applications/01:35
rhys-hynawsthoreauputic, grrr... but thank goodness for copy & paste01:35
nanot3ch_hp_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#hardware01:35
Razor-Xrhys-hynaws: is it just word processing?01:35
rhys-hynawsRazor-X, Mainly, yes... yearsof essays.01:36
jaggimight want to duplicate an entry (I duplicated the xchat.desktop entry as opera.desktop and edited it..01:36
nanot3ch_hp_: I believe it tells you how to edit FSTab, if not google it :) its pretty simple01:36
_hp_vi /etc/fstab ?01:36
jaggiopera placed it's menu in /usr/lib/menu/opera so I could get the icon and program path easily)01:36
Razor-Xhttp://www.abisource.com/download/01:36
nanot3ch_hp_: Yes, as root.01:36
Razor-Xtry AbiWord, it's pretty awesome01:36
dead^^hi all. does anyone here know how to install DGuitar? i have problems with it and the readme is useless =(01:36
jaggiAbiWord for what?01:36
_hp_nanot3ch, already done, do i have to reboot to see the effects or just log in, log out?01:36
Razor-Xfor word processing01:36
nanot3ch_hp_: run "mount -a"01:36
rhys-hynawsRazor-X, i will give it a go too01:37
Razor-Xthat was for rhys-hynaws01:37
Burgundaviajaggi, abiword is a word processor. apt-get install abiword will also get you it01:37
nanot3ch_hp_: As root, of course.01:37
jaggiah.. do you prefer it over OpenOffice?01:37
thoreauputicabiword is in the repos anyway01:37
jaggiyeah, I've used abiword in the past01:37
Razor-Xrhys-hynaws: err, yeah, that too01:37
Razor-X;-P01:37
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Razor-XAbiWord was the first word processor I actually used01:37
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nanot3chRazor-X: Mine was NotePad :P01:37
jaggijust wondering why you recommend it over OpenOffice (because ubuntu installed OO by default)01:37
Burgundaviajaggi, easier to use and faster to boot01:38
Razor-Xback when my parents, for some odd stupid reason, wouldn't by Word, and I absolutely needed it, and all the current free office apps were too beefed up form my P10001:38
Razor-Xnanot3ch: that's a text editor, not a word processor ;-P01:38
Razor-Xthere are differences01:38
jaggimy first word processor.. hmm.. back on the Commodore 64 I edited basic files?  but with actual word processing it must have been an old WordStar01:38
Razor-X*buy01:38
jaggiWordStar on a PC :)01:38
jaggithen WordPerfect01:38
nanot3chjaggi: OpenOffice is just sort of a standard all-in-one office app, thats why it is installed by default on many distro's.01:38
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Razor-Xso, again, does anyone here use a trackball?01:39
siplushey, speaking about OpenOffice, is there an easy way to install OO.o 2beta?01:39
siplusi'm running fedora, though...01:39
_hp_it doesn't allow me to see the file contents, says i do not have permission, ran mount -a as root01:39
Burgundaviasiplus, it is in the repos01:39
Burgundaviasiplus, in univesrse01:39
_hp_i did chown before mount, and could open, after mount -a it went back to root:root01:39
siplusi have apt-get on here, but it only has 1.1 available01:40
nanot3ch_hp_: mount -a basically resets the mounts without reboot...01:40
^thehatsrule^hey Razor-X ;p01:40
nanot3ch_hp_: All it should do, too :P01:41
Burgundaviasiplus, this is #ubuntu, not #fedora01:41
_hp_nanot3ch, i did that, but it doesn't allow any app to see what's mounted...01:41
siplusya, i know... oh well01:41
thoreauputic_hp_: mount points in general are *supposed* to be root:root01:41
Burgundaviasiplus, install Ubuntu, it is in Universe01:41
nanot3ch_hp_: Yep...they should be root:root...why did you give your user full access?01:41
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_hp_nanot3ch, my user is the one i created during the install...01:42
thoreauputic_hp_: your problem is more likely a wrong fstab line01:42
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Shadowpillarhow do I make a debian package?01:42
nanot3ch_hp_: whats your point? root is root :P01:42
thoreauputic_hp_: try looking at the file ;)   cat /etc/fstab01:43
lifelesswhois nanot3ch01:43
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nanot3chlifeless: I would be nanot3ch. :P01:43
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lifelessnanot3ch: I n01:43
lifelessbah this keyboard is killing me01:43
nanot3chlifeless: ?01:43
lifelessnanot3ch: I know a nanotech, who is not you.01:44
lifelesswrong gn01:44
lifelessgarh01:44
nanot3chhaha...01:44
lifelesswrong gender for starters01:44
Shadowpillarbob2: you around?01:44
nanot3ch...:P01:44
_hp_i got it working, thanks to all01:45
_hp_it was the umask=0000 that i was missing01:45
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HrdwrBoBShadowpillar: there is a debian guide to packaging01:45
HrdwrBoBShadowpillar: do a google search01:45
dead^^well, thanks a lot. I've been trying to ask that question like 6 times today and nobody has answered to me. I would appreciate if someone would just say to me "go to hell", but no. I'll refrase my question. here goes: "could anyone tell me how can I install applications which are zipped and when I extract them, there's just directories and there isn't even proper readme with it. It just says that "run the Java application" (.jar) or something li01:45
dead^^ke that and when I do, nothing happens. and plus, if here's not enough of typing to get someones attention, I'll throw away whole Linux and which back to Windows :S01:45
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BurgundaviaShadowpillar, google the debian new maintainers guide01:46
rhys-hynawsDoes anyone want to save a 6kb Open Office 2 document into PDF for me? (I do not have OO2... and cannot open this file)01:46
siplusdead^^: sorry to hear you're being ignorred... what are you trying to install/run?01:46
dead^^siplus, DGuitar01:46
thoreauputicdead^^: I think to run java apps you type something like java jar <app> but someone else will know...01:47
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ShadowpillarBurgundavia: would be great if ubuntu had an up to date version of zsnes01:47
rhys-hynawslol01:48
Fator_Deedead^^: if it says to run the java application, then run the java application :-p, that would be java -jar javaapnamehere01:48
rhys-hynawssnes lol01:48
siplusdead^^ one sec01:48
siplusdead^^: http://dguitar.sourceforge.net/en/inst-run.html01:49
rhys-hynawsDoes anyone want to save a 6kb Open Office 2 document into PDF for me? (I do not have OO2... and cannot open this file)01:49
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hybrid_gothnanot3ch: i got all my music in Shared Documents am i ready to go?01:50
nanot3chhybrid_goth: If file sharing on your Windows box is on, then you should be.01:50
hybrid_gothok ty sooo much01:50
_hp_one more newbie question, rythmbox keeps returning "there is no plugin to handle an mp3 file"...01:51
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rhys-hynawsDoes anyone want to save a 6kb Open Office 2 document into PDF for me? (I do not have OO2... and cannot open this file)01:51
bob2Shadowpillar: ?01:51
Fator_Dee_hp_: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad01:51
rhys-hynawsFINE You stingy people. I will download OO2 for onefile. Good lord.01:51
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bob2rhys-hynaws: er01:51
nanot3chDoes anyone know the default folder where Apache is? :P01:52
rhys-hynawslol01:52
bob2rhys-hynaws: please don't be abusive to strangers you're trying to get help from01:52
Shadowpillarbob2: was wondering about making a debian package01:52
bob2nanot3ch: /var/www/01:52
bob2Shadowpillar: ok01:52
Shadowpillarbut nevermind01:52
rhys-hynawsloll bob201:52
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ShadowpillarI'm about to take a nap01:52
nanot3chbob2: thanks01:52
thoreauputicrhys-hynaws: are you sure the OOo2 files are not backward compatible??01:52
rhys-hynaws100% sure, thoreauputic01:52
rhys-hynawsI have tried and tried..01:52
thoreauputicthat's nuts if so01:52
rhys-hynawsCompletely... the file jsut opens empty in oo101:53
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hybrid_goththoreauputic: isnt OO nortourious for swaping formats01:53
nanot3chbob2: where is httpd.conf and the bin to stop / restart Apache though? :P01:53
hybrid_gothor is that MS01:53
rhys-hynawshybrid_goth, it is...01:53
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hybrid_gothrhys-hynaws: either OOo or MS office01:53
bob2nanot3ch: er, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop01:54
rhys-hynawsboth. lol.01:54
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thoreauputichybrid_goth: the latter I hope01:54
hybrid_gothmaybe be MS01:54
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hybrid_gothlol01:54
_hp_Fator_Dee, there is no such package in synaptic01:54
dead^^siplus: well, that's just great. howcome people just can't type in the readme things like "chmod +x" or any other commands which 'ofcourse-aren't-so-important' (i'm trying to be sarcastic here) :P.  but really, thanks man01:54
hybrid_goththoreauputic: now that i think of it i believe it is MS01:54
thoreauputichybrid_goth: rings a bell *grin*01:54
nanot3chbob2: thanks once again! :)01:54
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rhys-hynawsdead^^ just type sudo chmod 777 -rf *01:55
rhys-hynawslol01:55
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vessuvius81How do I get a startup script to run at boot time? I have the tomcat.sh script in /etc/init.d, and it will run when I do sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5.sh start... just need to get it to run on startup.01:55
hybrid_goththoreauputic: lol01:55
cirkit_I tried compiling gaim in ubuntu but it seems ubuntu is broken01:55
cirkit_*** GTK+ 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GTK+01:55
kyncanivessuvius81: use sysv-rc-conf or rcconf01:56
rhys-hynawscirkit_, do not compile it01:56
thoreauputiccirkit_: it isn't ubuntu that's broken :)01:56
siplusdead^^: everything worked out then? :-D01:56
rhys-hynawscirkit_, sudo apt-get install gaim01:56
bob2rhys-hynaws: no, that's not funny, do not give terrible advice to people again01:56
cirkit_but there is a new version of gaim that ubuntu doesnt have yet01:56
cirkit_i mean apt-get01:56
cirkit_why doenst ubuntu have gtk?01:56
bob2cirkit_: why do you want the new version?01:56
nanot3chAnyone know how long it takes to compile MySQL 4.1?01:56
bob2cirkit_: of course it has gtk, don't be silly01:56
hybrid_gothcirkit_: do you have build essintails and gtk+ 201:56
Fator_Deedead^^: maybe because they think that it's common sense that file should be executable to be able to execute it :-p01:56
cirkit_well what the heck is that error for01:56
rhys-hynawsbob2, oh okay... well sorry... but I mean I have to chmod everything constantly... lol. Sorry.01:56
bob2cirkit_: it doesn't install every single development package by default, though, because that would be stupid01:57
dead^^rhys-hynaws, i know what chmod does, but just readme or websites didn't mention anything about it01:57
hybrid_gothbob2: i thonk he meant gtk+ 201:57
bob2cirkit_: you need to run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential ; sudo apt-get build-dep gaim'01:57
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bob2hybrid_goth: yes, I know what cirkit_ meant01:57
rhys-hynawsdead^^ I know what you mean... I have that problem constantly01:57
hybrid_gothbob2: well sorry01:57
dead^^siplus, yes it worked out. thanks man =)01:57
cirkit_i already have build essentioals01:57
thoreauputiccirkit_: the problem is you didn't know to look for the -dev packages :)01:57
Fator_Dee_hp_: do you have universe repository enabled? I think it's there01:57
[FiDO] can someone help me with apache2 Name Based Virtual Hosts01:58
bob2cirkit_: yes, run the command I gave you01:58
cirkit_is there some way i need to put GTK in a certain path??01:58
cirkit_bob2, im running the build-dep gaim one01:58
bob2cirkit_: no, run the command I gave you01:58
bob2cirkit_: good01:58
thoreauputiccirkit_: did you read what bob2  and I said?01:58
bob2[FiDO] : you need to be more specific01:58
_hp_Fator_Dee, found it, it was in the universe repository01:59
_hp_thanks01:59
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Fator_Dee_hp_: good01:59
cirkit_thoreauputic, yes I read what you both said.01:59
thoreauputiccirkit_: OK :)01:59
cirkit_thoreauputic, I already have build essentials which I thought was weird getting a no GTK error01:59
Fator_Deeand now I think I should go get some sleep :-p01:59
_hp_it's playing perfectly now01:59
cirkit_thoreauputic, would you happen to have a link of certain apt-get things we might need with ubuntu?02:00
[FiDO] k I know I can add a Virtual Host in the sites-available directory but I want it to work like it did for the old version of apache where you'd have <VirtualHost 192.168.0.3> document root /var/www/ampache rather then the root director02:00
bob2cirkit_: think about it...how many potential sets of headers are there in ubuntu? hundreds, if not thousands.  installing them all would be silly.02:00
thoreauputiccirkit_: 99% of the time when you get a message compiling that something is missing, it means the *development* package02:00
[FiDO] for some reason this just isn't workign for me02:00
cirkit_shouldnt apt-get upgrade gaim get the latest version?02:01
cirkit_why doesnt it?02:01
bob2[FiDO] : add a file to the sites-available directory, containing the virtualhost stuff.  symlink it into the sites-enabled dir02:01
thoreauputiccirkit_: when you need to find something in apt, try apt-cache search <keyword>02:01
_hp_cirkit_, root is disabled, use synaptic02:01
bob2cirkit_: no, that's not what 'apt-get upgrade' does, please read the man page02:01
bob2cirkit_: also, hoary is frozen, and will not be getting new versions of software02:01
bob2this is how software releases work02:01
[FiDO] can you just tack it on the end of the default site02:01
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bob2if you want random new uploads of potentially unstable software, ubuntu stable is not what you want02:02
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thoreauputiccirkit_: you can't expect a stable distribution to update everything all the time02:02
bob2what amazing new features does the new minor version of gaim have?02:02
thoreauputicbob2: probably a new icon or something crucial like that ;-)02:03
rhys-hynawsbob2... well we're talking 1.1.4 to 1.3.902:03
rhys-hynaws1.3.0**02:03
rhys-hynawsso t'aint so minor...02:03
aVeedoThis is common: What's the fix for sound?  I've seen it here but never had the problem before.02:03
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rhys-hynawsbob2 There are major security bugs with msn fixed...02:03
bob2aVeedo: depends what the problem is02:03
usynicaVeedo: it's on http://www.ubuntuguide.org02:03
Burgundaviarhys-hynaws, that is minor02:03
shido6ok02:03
bob2rhys-hynaws: then they will be backported to the version in hoary02:03
shido6i finally got vmware to SEE my /dev/hda1 partition02:03
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shido6but now grub is bitching at me02:04
shido6can I do some voodoo with the xp boot cd?02:04
vessuvius81thnx kyncani02:04
shido6without screwin anythin02:04
shido6or02:04
shido6u know what02:04
Burgundaviarhys-hynaws, if there are security fixes, file a bug, so they can be backported02:04
shido6n/m i'll make a boot disk02:04
hybrid_gothanyone here use Vim for coding?02:04
bob2yes02:04
Lizanyone else having problems with authentication on the new updates for hoary?02:04
hybrid_gothbob2: nice?02:04
bob2hybrid_goth: yes. I do prefer emacs, though.02:04
hybrid_gothbob2: ok is it better than nano for coding?02:05
bob2hybrid_goth: both of them are02:05
bob2most editors are better than nano for anything aside from simplicity02:05
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Burgundaviarhys-hynaws, http://www.gnomefiles.org/version.php?soft_id=15302:05
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hybrid_gothbob2: ok ty02:05
Razor-Xjust got Java working in Konqueror, wasn't hard at all02:05
calaveraI'm looking for some help with xorg and a trident driver.02:05
runedudehi guys got a question.. when I have Xvnc running, how do I get a terminal inside of the VNC session, or X?02:06
calaveraIt seems the overlay won't work. Is this a known issue with 6.8.2?02:06
shido6how do I create a boot disk for ubuntu (floppy) Im really going to make an iso so I can boot the iso from vmware to boot my xp partition02:06
rhys-hynawsBurgundavia, namaste02:06
calaveraThe overlay works fine if I use the VESA driver instead of the trident driver.02:06
bob2calavera: google doesn't know anything?02:07
bob2I'd wager trident is not the most closely maintained driver02:07
calaverabob2: Not that I can find. Most just say its a bugged driver.02:07
calaverabob2: True, Trident doesn't seem to be forthcoming.02:08
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dead^^ahem... if type command "java -jav javaapnamehere" to start up java application, am I doing something wrong or does the computer just fcuk with me? :S02:09
dead^^nothing happens02:09
thoreauputictypo? I think you want -jar02:09
thoreauputicnot -jav02:09
hybrid_gothnewbie question.. i just compiled a C prog in gcc it gave me a.out02:10
hybrid_gothhow do i execute it02:10
HrdwrBoB./a.out02:10
lifeless./a.out02:10
hybrid_gothok ty02:10
lifeless(be sure to do it twice ;))02:10
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dead^^thoreauputic,  sorry, i meant -jar. i'm drunk and tired :)02:10
hybrid_gothlifeless: lol02:10
thoreauputicdead^^: we are assuming you have javav installed, of course...02:11
thoreauputic*java02:11
hybrid_gothdead^^: wow drunk tired and you *are* dead02:11
dead^^thoreauputic,  yes, it should be :P02:11
dead^^hybrid_goth, lol02:11
hybrid_goth:D02:12
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hybrid_gothnanot3ch: how do i start samba?02:13
bob2it's started already02:13
bob2assuming you installed it02:13
calaverabob2: From what I've seen there are supposed to be some fixes with XFree86 4.1.0, but I already tried 4.3.0 and it exhibited the same problems.02:13
hybrid_gothbob2: well how do i get the other files on my network02:14
hybrid_gothi just apted it02:14
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bob2calavera: hoary is well past Xfree86 4.1 and Xfree86 4.302:14
nanot3chhybrid_goth: Samba is just a frontend to access windows services...make sure you have it installed on your system, then I believe it is either smb or samba in terminal.02:14
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bob2hybrid_goth: I don't know what you mean02:14
DAC1138is there anyone here from ubuntu with the shipit system?02:14
bob2hybrid_goth: samba is a server, it has nothing to do with accessing other windows machines02:15
bob2DAC1138: why do you ask?02:15
nanot3chbob2: samba client...02:15
hybrid_gothnvm nanot3ch got it02:15
calaverabob2: I know. I installed them to test and see if they had a functioning video overlay.02:15
DAC1138bob2 im just wondering what's going on with them. are they still shipping cds? i set an order for some hoary cds march 25th, and they said hoary wont ship until mid april02:16
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bob2DAC1138: they should be on their way to you02:16
johanI have a big problem now..02:16
johanroot password is not working02:16
johan:(02:16
DAC1138bob2 ive got some friends who want some cds, and im wondering if it would be faster to just burn them myself. but i know as soon as i get them burned, theyll arrive the next day in the mail02:16
bob2johan: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:17
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shawnhhi02:17
hybrid_gothjohan: there is no root in ubuntu look at the link02:17
bob2johan: and, in future, please do read the text printed during install (it explains that there is no root account)02:17
hybrid_gothshawnh: hi02:17
shawnhhybris02:17
hybrid_gothbob2: rofl02:17
bob2DAC1138: well, ideally they should be there now02:17
shawnh how is it going02:17
shawnh where ya from?02:18
hybrid_gothgood you02:18
shawnh 30mbc02:18
hybrid_gothshawnh: texas you?02:18
shawnhn2b02:18
hybrid_gothgood02:18
shawnh  canada02:18
shawnhwww.crestonbc.com02:18
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nderjmIve setup a DHCP server and am testing it (dhcpd -d -f eth0), but it keeps telling me that there are no free leases on subnet 192.168.0.0.  Any ideas?02:18
chillywillyBefore mercury, brandy was used to fill thermometers.02:18
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shawnhwhat's up in Texas02:18
zoddan^wlanHi02:18
zoddan^wlandid a new screenshit a moment ago02:18
shawnhzoddan02:18
hybrid_gothhttp://hybrid-online.tk and http://hybrid-undergorund.tk02:18
zoddan^wlanshawnh: ?02:19
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hybrid_gothntm trying to get media off a networked windoze machine how is canada02:19
shawnhhow is  it going02:19
johanbob2: anvandare@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/sudoers02:19
zoddan^wlanshawnh: good02:19
fluideyehey all02:19
shawnhyeah it is great the weather today  was unbelieveable02:19
shawnhfluid eye02:19
hybrid_gothcool02:19
johanbob2: anvandare is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported02:19
zoddan^wlanhttp://zoddan.mine.nu/ubuntu2.png a comment? :)02:19
shawnhhow old are you hybrid02:20
fluideyewhy is it when i try sudo apt-get I get couldn't find package02:20
chillywillynice irssi02:20
hybrid_gothshawnh: 14 you02:20
fluideyethis is with all packages i've tried to get02:20
bob2johan: er, yes, why would you run that file?02:20
bob2johan: what are you trying to do?02:20
chillywillyI still think gkrellm is the most hideoous monitoring program ever made ;)02:20
chillywillyhideous too02:20
batkins_chillywilly: is there anything better?02:21
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johanbob2: wait....02:21
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chillywillybatkins_: gdesklets can be used02:21
chillywilly:)02:21
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hybrid_gothshawnh: 14  you02:21
shawnhm?02:22
chillywillyI miss my gdesklets02:22
shawnhyeah  3002:22
shawnhwhat is that chilly02:22
fluideyeshawnh: can you help?02:22
chillywillymost of th good ones were b0rked the last time I tried to use them02:22
shawnhcan you help me?02:22
shawnh don;t know cha  you02:22
batkins_eh, gkrellm's not so bad02:22
chillywillyhttp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/02:22
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UNI`:D02:22
zoddan^wlanwhat does everyone think? :P02:23
shawnhbout what02:23
zoddan^wlanmy screen02:23
shawnhthe world?02:23
shawnh hehhe02:23
hybrid_gothsynaptic is _SLOW_02:23
shawnhbrb02:23
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fluideyeany help? why is it when i try sudo apt-get return couldn't find package with every app i've tried02:23
UNI`:o02:24
UNI`I have ubuntu now :D02:24
UNI`I haven't installed it yet though02:24
shawnhok dude02:24
hybrid_gothfluideye: repos set?02:24
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snakesqznsgkrellm has the best plugin: http://horus.comlab.uni-rostock.de/flynn/02:24
shawnhaccept the file02:24
fluideyenewb don't know02:24
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bob2fluideye: presumably you're not using the right package names02:24
NigelSfluideye: so you've run sudo apt-get update, with repositories in /etc/apt/spources.list and then gone sudo apt-get install <package> ?02:24
UNI`Is ubuntu user friendly02:24
bob2fluideye: give us some examples of what you've tried02:24
UNI`?02:24
fluideyeno02:24
UNI`I am not well versed in linux02:25
UNI`:(02:25
thoreauputicfluideye: apt-cache search <keyword> ; sudo apt-get install <what you found>02:25
hybrid_gothfluideye: look at /etc/apt/sources.list and see if any urls have a # or 2 b4 them02:25
fluideyenigels  how would i do that02:25
hybrid_gothUNI`: yes it is UF but can be very powerfull02:25
bob2fluideye: tell us which packages won't work for you02:25
UNI`Cool :D02:25
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zoddan^wlanshawnh what ?02:26
hybrid_gothUNI`: yes it is a debian deveriant so it can be powerfull but if you dont tweek it is juss another os02:26
fluideyegftp, flash, and acrobat02:26
bob2fluideye: then you're using the wrong package names02:26
hybrid_gothUNI`: best thing is it uses apt :D02:26
UNI`Yeah ! :D02:26
ZotnixAnyone here have troubles using the nvidia drivers? Basically X liking to crash a lot?02:26
bob2fluideye: except gftp, which is correct02:26
UNI`I will put it on my other computer for now02:26
UNI`And then if I like it put it on this computer :)02:26
hybrid_goth;)02:26
ZotnixEvery so often X freezes and I have to make my poor friend shell in, kill x, and restart it.02:26
bob2fluideye: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, read that to find out how to enable the universe repository to get gftp02:27
bob2fluideye: read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to learn about flash02:27
bob2and then watch firefox become amusingly unstable02:27
fluideyethis is what i used  sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla02:27
UNI`XD02:27
hybrid_gothbob2: what is the deal with ubuntu and "restricted formats"?02:27
bob2fluideye: yes, read the pages I just told you about02:27
ZotnixOkay, with the nv open source drivers... is it more stable?02:28
thoreauputicfluideye: did you apt-get update before trying to install ?02:28
bob2hybrid_goth: ubuntu can't distribute things like that without being sued02:28
bob2Zotnix: yes02:28
bob2hybrid_goth: well, potentially sued.  and canonical being sued is baaaaad.02:28
hybrid_gothbob2: right now? why?02:28
hybrid_gotho i c02:28
bob2hybrid_goth: why would they get sued or why would it be bad?02:28
fluideyehybrid-goth  there are several urls with #02:29
hybrid_gothnvm i thot u said they *are* being sued02:29
bob2ah02:29
bob2fluideye: seriously, please read the pages I told you about02:29
hybrid_gothfluideye: well delete the #02:29
bob2fluideye: they explain all this02:29
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UNI`I am new to freenode :)02:29
ZotnixHrm.02:29
UNI`I am moving my channel to this network :D02:29
fluideyebob2  k02:29
hybrid_gothfluideye:  yes ubuntu has AWESOME howto02:29
ZotnixThought so. Seems nvidia likes to freeze up.. nice card too :(02:29
hybrid_gothUNI`: heh02:29
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Naliothhowdy02:30
_hp_canonical is a company, and companies are meant to make money. getting sued is a nice way of loosing money02:30
UNI`Hi :D02:30
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johanbob2 If I try to run for example synaptec I can't log in. get error Child terminated with 1 status02:34
bob2you're being too vague02:34
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bob2do you mean "When I try to run Synaptic from the menu, it asks for a password, then when I enter it, it fails with "child terminated with 1 status""?02:35
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johanbob2: it take some time for me to spell in english..Can't install english dictionary ether:)  wait..02:36
bob2ok02:36
danko123456msn.msn.icowww.winamp.com02:38
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johanbob2: I have probobly change something in "users and groups" now if I try to open something I need root acces to I get the error message02:39
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johanbob2: for example...failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:02:40
johan Child terminated with 1 status02:40
merkidemisWould anyone have some time to assist me in getting my audio working?  I have onboad sound provided by a Realtek ALC655 chip.02:41
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Andrilhello all02:43
zoddan^wlandah, how do i close PM in irssi ?02:43
Andrilhas anyone installed inkscape yet?02:43
GabrielIs there a way to make all icons stand on the right side instead on my Gnome 2.10 desktop?02:43
zoddan^wlangot it02:43
merkidemisGabriel: what do you mean?02:44
johanbob2: others have beenhaving the same problem but I don't find a way to fix the problem02:44
runedudehmm02:44
johanbob2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=b1ab63bce0273d8dc976eb58c2de19e3&p=156991#post15699102:44
johan:(02:44
runedudedo you guys know how to install gdm, but not have it autostart?02:45
AndrilInkscape help over here anyone?02:45
Gabrielmerkidemis, by default the icons stand on the left, I would like them to be on the right... I can manually move them at the moment but when a USB or a CD is plugged the icon(s) appear(s) on the left side02:45
tritiumrunedude, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start02:45
Gabrielmerkidemis, maybe there is a way to change this in the gconf editor?02:46
tritiumyou'll want the first method, which uses update-rc.d, runedude, and subst. "g" for the "?"02:46
johanAndril: Have you tryed #inkscape on server irc.freenode.org02:47
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runedudeok02:47
runedudebut is there a way to have GNOME on VNC?02:47
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nderjmanyone know of any DHCP 2 issues on Warty?02:47
Andriljohan, nope but I will try it02:48
tritiumrunedude, vino should be installed.  See System->Preferences->Remote Desktop02:48
dataw0lfjohan: we're on freenode.02:48
runedudeit says vino IS installed02:48
runedude:p02:48
dataw0lfso, just.. channel #inkscape02:48
dataw0lfie02:48
dataw0lf/join #inkscape02:48
johandataw0lf:  but not in #inkscape:)02:49
tritiumrunedude, there's also client in Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client02:49
johandataw0lf:ok02:49
merkidemisgabriel: hmm, I get it now.  Sadly, I don't know how you'd change that02:49
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Andrilhas anyone tried the autopackage?02:50
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runedudetritium, i have no access to the remote box:)02:50
johanbob2: do you have any ide??:)02:50
thoreauputicAndril: I've tried autopackage - it works well enough but be careful of collisions with the dpkg/apt system ( I believe they are working on it)02:51
tritiumAndril, here's a link you may find interesting by Joey Hess re: autopackage: http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/autopackage_designed_by_monkeys-2005-03-28-14-20.html02:51
hyphenatedanyone here have an inspiron 6000 laptop and have managed to make the ATI fglrx driver work nicely?02:52
hyphenated(I've checked the forums, and it works fine with the 'ati' driver, but not with 'fglrx')02:52
merkidemisWhen I try to play things in VLC, I get an error:  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp).  Can someone assist me in getting my sound card set up correctly?02:52
tritiumrunedude, then what were you planning on using vnc for?02:52
mitspoonerany ideas on why my install freezes on the python config on my new celeron??02:52
merkidemismitspooner: What version of python?02:53
mitspooner2.402:53
darkauditduh... I'm pulling my hair out looking for a CD cover image... then I realize a) the cover is right in front of me, and b) there's a scanner upstairs :p02:53
nderjmAnyone know of any DHCP2 issues with Ubuntu Warty?02:53
runedudetritium, I have no access to its desktop, I only have access via shell02:53
mitspoonerit just hangs02:53
tritiumrunedude, I see.02:53
runedudeits my friends box02:54
merkidemismitspooner: not off hand, sorry.  Perhaps you could leave it off, finish the install, then add it later?02:54
runedudewe dont want 2 things of X running'02:54
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thoreauputictritium: I think that autopackage blog rant misses the point of autopackage: it isn't a package format in itself02:54
tritiumthoreauputic, I don't know, as I've not looked into it02:55
thoreauputictritium: I think it has a way to go before it is good: but the idea itself is a good one02:55
mitspoonermerkidemis: it wont instal at all that is my problem02:55
Andriljust asking because none seems to know the command for Inkscape - and it disappeared from Synaptics02:55
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merkidemismitspooner: ouch.02:55
tritiumAndril, dpkg -L inkscape will list the files in the package, so you can find out02:56
merkidemismitspooner: sorry I can't help yah02:56
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bur[n] ercan someone do me a favor and see if "vncviewer -listen" works for them??02:56
=== bur[n] er isn't sure if it's an ubuntu issue... or a personal issue ;)
thoreauputictritium: he installed it with autopackage, I believe - so dpkg won't know about it02:57
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kyncanirunedude: well, that's really twisted :) but you could dpkg-divert /etc/init.d/gdm to smthing else, provide a empty gdm init script, install gdm, and dpkg-divert back :D02:57
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tritiumthoreauputic, oh...that's interesting02:57
runedudekyncani, ill keep it simple and just not use X:)02:57
kyncani:))02:57
johanI have probebly change something in "users and groups" now if I try to open something I need root acces to I get the error message:.failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 1 status02:58
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thoreauputictritium: autopackage has some unresolved issues like integration with packaging systems02:58
johanPlease someone help me:(02:58
tritiumrunedude, did you try the update-rc.d approach?02:58
tritiumthoreauputic, I would imagine.02:59
Naliothjohan, terminal is your friend02:59
bur[n] erjohan: 'sudo synaptic' ?02:59
bur[n] erjohan: or run "gksu synaptic" in X02:59
johananvandare@ubuntu:~$ sudo synaptic02:59
johanPassword:02:59
johananvandare is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.02:59
johananvandare@ubuntu:~$02:59
bur[n] eraww03:00
bur[n] ercan you get to root at all?03:00
johan:(03:00
bur[n] erfrom another user possibly?03:00
kyncanijohan: are you in group admin ?03:00
thoreauputicjohan: reboot into recovery mode and use visudo to add your user to /etc/sudoers03:00
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johanbur[n] er: Im a newbei and only have the defult acount03:00
bob2kyncani: there is no group admin03:01
bur[n] erjohan: did you f with /etc/sudoers?03:01
bob2johan: you did something weird to your system03:01
kyncanibur[n] er,bob2: here, all members of group admin can sudo everything (default hoary install)03:01
bob2you renamed an account, or twiddled the sudoers file or something03:01
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foxinessjohan, www.ubuntuguide.org/index.html#allowmoresudoers03:01
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bur[n] erkyncani: you're right... i just checked my /etc/sudoers :)03:02
johananvandare@ubuntu:~$ sudo  /etc/sudoers03:02
johanPassword:03:02
johananvandare is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.03:02
johananvandare@ubuntu:~$03:02
bur[n] erkyncani: good tip03:02
bob2kyncani: I have no admin group, and sudoers doesn't mention it at all03:02
thoreauputicfoxiness: that won't help: he needs root access now03:02
bob2johan: stop pasting that, it means nothing03:02
bob2johan: you can't run random text files03:02
johanbob2:yes:(03:02
bob2johan: what did you do to your system?03:02
danko123456can he list the users on the system?03:02
bob2we can't help you until ou tell us how you broke it03:02
johanbob2:don't know..03:02
kyncanibob2: maybe it changed from warty to hoary ?03:02
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foxinessjohan, did use chmod ? or chown ?03:02
bob2kyncani: I'd be very very surprised03:02
kyncanibob2: here's a fresh hoary install03:02
runedudetritium, yea03:03
runedudeits ok03:03
runedudei got it now thanks03:03
johan ***bur[n] er: mayby03:03
bur[n] ercat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied03:03
bob2johan: so you made a new user?03:03
bur[n] er# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges03:03
bur[n] er%adminALL=(ALL) ALL03:03
foxinessthoreauputic, i c , did he need to add this to /etc/passwd03:03
bur[n] ersee bob2!03:03
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johanwait..03:03
thoreauputicfoxiness: he can get root access from the recovery option of grub: but he will need to know how to edit /etc/sudoers03:04
hyphenatedhow do you log into recovery mode if you haven't set a root password?03:05
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danko123456go into the passwd file, and look at the users on the system...find out which one might have been b4...03:05
bur[n] erif he can get in recovery mode... presumably, he can just set a root password ;)03:05
bob2hyphenated: you reboot and escape the whole auth system entirely03:05
hyphenatedit asks for the root password when it gets to the 'maintenance' prompt, right?03:05
foxinesshyphenated, it will not need it , it all03:05
bob2hyphenated: no03:05
hyphenatedoh ok03:05
bob2bur[n] er: well, I don't see that in the sudo package at all03:05
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bob2but if you say it's there, I guess I just missed it being introduced03:05
hyphenatedso it'll only prompt you if a root password has actually been set?03:06
bur[n] erbob2: i didn't set it ;)03:06
bur[n] erhyphenated: it won't prompt at all when using recovery mode (aka linux single)03:06
thoreauputicbob2: It seems to be a Hoary thing : on Warty it was just adm03:06
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johanI can log in and out as "anvandare" should I reboot?03:07
danko123456for whqt?03:07
thoreauputicjohan: no, you choose recovery mode: but read about visudo first03:07
foxinessjohan, no03:07
danko123456for logging in?03:07
bur[n] erjohan: reboot... pick "recovery mode" from grub menu... then set a root password using "passwd" and then log back out and in normally and come back here ;)03:07
danko123456thoreauputic: is there no sudo user on his computer at all?03:08
bur[n] eronce a root password is set, you can login normally and then "su" to get to root and fix whatever you broke ;)03:08
thoreauputicdanko123456: he removed himself from sudoers by accident03:08
foxinessjohan, this new user need to be on sudoers list03:08
danko123456oh, ok...03:08
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bob2well, I don't htink we know what johan did03:08
johanit take some time for me to spell in english..Can't install english dictionary ether:)  wait..03:08
bob2it sounds like he/she made a new user who didn't have sudo priveleges03:08
thoreauputicbob2: true, I'm just guessing03:09
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foxinesslol03:09
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danko123456johan, look in your /etc/passwd file, with vi, or something like gedit, and see if there is a user you used b4...03:09
thoreauputicdanko123456: he won't be allowed access to /etc/password03:10
thoreauputicdanko123456: until he can get root privileges03:10
foxinessthoreauputic, good :)03:10
kyncani-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1612 2005-04-29 22:55 /etc/passwd03:10
bur[n] erthoreauputic: not true... any user can read it03:10
kyncaniread access for every103:10
foxinesskyncani, more is good too03:10
thoreauputicOK - my bad03:10
thoreauputicas long as he can't write to it :)03:11
kyncani;)03:11
johannot  allowed access to /etc/password03:11
danko123456he can view it...03:11
danko123456not at all?03:11
danko123456mine can anyhow...03:12
johan I reboot... pick "recovery mode" from grub menu... then set a root password using "passwd" and then log back out and in normally and come back here...03:12
johanor??03:12
johan:-/03:12
danko123456you can, maybe, or edit the file from there.03:12
kyncanijohan: right, simple, effective03:12
danko123456add a line to allow your user to sudo.03:12
johanyou think I will be able to come back?03:13
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johanNo backup plan ... Im a newbei..:)03:13
Stoney47evening guys, any of you tried openmosix with hoary yet?03:14
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johanOkej we will se what happens. If I sucseed I will come back....03:15
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johanThank you all for the help03:16
johan:)03:16
danko123456you will be back even if it dont work:)03:16
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danko123456cya soon03:16
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MeMcme123hello03:17
danko123456yo03:17
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Flavi went to install python on my hoary box, it listed python-profiler as a suggestion, but that package doesn't exist?03:23
lmhhi all03:23
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lmhhave a problem getting dual head of my radeon 9500 working03:25
lmhfirst monitor works, second not03:25
thoreauputicFlav: apt-cache policy python-profiler says03:25
thoreauputic 2.4-3ubuntu1 003:25
thoreauputic        500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages03:25
lmhtried fglrxconfig03:26
thoreauputicFlav: you haven't enabled multiverse, I'd say03:26
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Flavthoreauputic: that's right - hadn't heard of multiverse before03:26
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lmhanybody who could help me?03:26
=== Flav rtfm's @ https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu
Stoney47lmh, i use nvidia, but for that i need to use twinview in my config, there might be something like that for ati too03:27
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lmhcould you show me the server-layout part of your config?03:27
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lmhstoney47: do u use Xinerama?03:28
P2OGis there a console command to set TIME manually03:28
Stoney47lmh, yup03:28
lmhp20g: date03:28
P2OGok so date <>?03:28
P2OGdate <what goes here>03:29
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johanok..I am able to loging in and out from the system:)03:29
simon__if I modprobe a driver, I lsmod and it shows the driver is loaded, but it's not loading wlan0, any idea?03:29
lmhp20g: date -s03:29
johanWas going for the recovery mode and was coming to a comandline root@03:29
lmhp20g: date --help03:29
simon__I tried alias wlan0 prism2_usb but it says that there is no wlan0 and prism2_usb03:29
johanIm a newbie can I ask what I should write??...03:30
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lmhp20g: date -s [MMddhhmm[[cc] yy] .ss] 03:30
lmhStoney47: how can you show it to me?03:31
Stoney47lmh, i sent it too you in a pm03:31
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lmhStoney47: ups, sorry (newbie to X-Chat - Prog)03:32
Stoney47lmh, np :)03:32
hyphenatedis there a runlevel that doesn't start gdm by default?03:32
Stoney47is there any downside to using the multiverse?03:32
johan hyphenated: You ask me?03:33
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eob84has anyone gotten Rhythm box to work in KDE?03:33
eob84I need to know what flag to put in the audiosource field under gconfig03:34
lmhStoney47: do u use several device - parts?03:34
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Stoney47yeah, hold on i'll send you my whole config03:34
NightwishFreakhello everyone03:35
simon__ if I modprobe a driver, I lsmod and it shows the driver is loaded, but it's not loading wlan0, any idea?03:35
goldfishgat] 03:36
goldfish gasjdfh sd03:36
goldfishg sdgsdag u03:36
goldfishdas03:36
tritiumhyphenated, no, use update-rc.d to disable gdm if you want to03:36
thoreauputicgoldfish: cut it out03:36
tritiumhyphenated, see here for more info: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start03:38
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goldfish?:Dtop03:39
goldfish:D03:39
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tritiumgoldfish, please stop03:40
goldfish*Sigh*03:40
goldfishReally sorry, some moron took my terminal.03:40
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goldfishsomeone took over my screen session, thought it was "funny"03:41
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goldfishI'll get them back!03:41
stuNNedhehe03:41
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Naliothgoldfish, took you terminal? apt-get some more03:42
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goldfishhehe03:42
Anubismy system froze03:42
AnubisI think Firefox did it03:42
Anubisand after reboot nautilus is not starting or is dead03:42
AnubisI can't get a desktop03:42
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Anubisno tool bar03:43
Anubisno applets03:43
Anubiswtf?03:43
thoreauputicAnubis: run ps aux | grep nautilus and see if there are things running, then kill them03:43
thoreauputichmm... quick visit....03:44
hyphenatedtritium: fantastic, thanks03:44
tritiumhyphenated, :)03:44
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hyphenated(I just mv'd the file/link to a .file instead)03:46
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tritiumhyphenated, heh, okay03:49
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LinuxDebiansalut tout le monde03:51
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tritiumLinuxDebian, you might be looking for #ubuntu-fr03:51
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skorehi03:52
LinuxDebiantank you Trickyphillips03:52
johanno I can't understand how I can make a new user in recovery mode...03:52
skorei need help03:52
IFR_I'm on a i686 but when I installed I ended up with kernel 2.6.10-5-386. ANyone have an opinion as to whether I should upgrade to 2.6.10-5-686 or go straight for it with linux-source-2.6.11 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 with Ubuntu patches?03:52
tritiumIFR_, don't use 2.6.11, it's unsupported03:53
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tritiumIf I were you, IFR_ I'd install linux-68603:53
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IFR_Thanks so much tritium, is that the actual package name?03:53
IFR_Sorry to be presumptuous03:54
tritiumIFR_, yes, it depends on a kernel image, as well as linux-restricted-modules03:54
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Anubishow can I kill gnome03:54
IFR_Thanks so much. If I apt-get it will it get the depends or should I cope with them first?03:54
Anubisits still running03:54
IFR_CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE03:54
IFR_Anubis03:54
Anubisbut I'm in another DED?03:54
tritiumIFR_, apt will take care of the dependencies for you03:54
Anubisgnome seems to be still running after I exit from it!?03:55
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johandon't get any results in google...don't even now exactly what I want? Create new user ? Change password?03:55
IFR_Thanks! One last question, tritium: I just compiled ipw2200 version 1.0.0 for my -386 kernel. Should I uninstall and reinstall after the lernel upgrade?03:55
IFR_Or just let it be?03:55
IFR_tritium, sorry the ipw2200 is wifi driver03:56
tritiumIFR_, you can just let it be in case you keep the -386 kernel around.03:56
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IFR_Right. But I'll have to install again in the 686 kernel? Sorry if I misunderstood.03:56
Anubisis there a cmd to kill gnome or a process in gnome that will stop it shoulld that process die?03:56
Anubisi need my resources back03:57
tritiumIFR_, yes, you will need to do the same for the new kernel03:57
IFR_Thanks Tritium!03:57
tritiumsure :)03:57
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Anubisme next tritum03:57
IFR_Anubis, ps aux | grep gnome03:57
IFR_But you sure you really wanna?03:57
Anubisyes03:58
AnubisI'm in xfce4 right now03:58
IFR_Whoops. Just past me. Sorry03:58
IFR_Thanks again tritium, have a great night03:58
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snoop_hello...03:59
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snoop_can anyone help me out with some trouble i am having with my wireless connection?03:59
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shad0w1eanyone here know how to use vsftpd? I'm looking to allow specific users access to specific directories, AS WELL AS their home directory04:00
thoreauputicAnubis: if you are in xfce4 some gnome things will probably be running ( xfce seems to use nautilus to draw the desktop for example)04:00
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Anubisthx for that04:00
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lmhjoin #xorg04:00
Anubissomething is very wrong here04:01
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Anubisits weird because I had an uptime of 25 days before this04:01
thoreauputicme supplies a missing / for lmh04:01
geppyI've tried googling and just messing around with it, but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to make an GStreamer project in Anjuta;  I don't know how to make it look in /usr/include/gstreamer-0.8 for "gst/gst.h"04:01
thoreauputicand forgets one himself :)04:01
AnubisI'm going ot try and reboot04:01
thoreauputicAnubis: did you try ps | aux and look for culprits?04:02
geppyIs anyone in here familiar with Anjuta?04:02
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thoreauputicAnubis: it's probably some misbehaving process you can kill the parent of04:02
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thoreauputicAnubis: sorry that should have been ` ps aux `04:04
geppyAnjuta, anyone?04:05
thoreauputicAnubis: so used to using | grep that I put it in the wrong place...04:05
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Anubisrythmbox its weird04:05
benplautis Morphix LightGUI any good when installed?04:05
Anubisevery app I was running appears to be runniig04:05
Anubisas if gnome IS still running04:05
benplautubuntu isn't light enough...04:05
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bob2benplaut: #morphix might know04:06
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geppybenplaut: I think you mean that Gnome isn't light enough.  Have you given Fluxbox a try?  I've had many a positive experience with it.  If not, xfce, blackbox, and others all have good followings.04:06
benplautbob2: asking there, too04:06
benplautgeppy: i have tried many, but it is not for me. it is for people who possibly haven't even heard of linux04:07
thoreauputicthe new xfce4 is very impressive04:07
mebaran151XFCE is nice04:07
mebaran151xfce4 is really easy to use04:07
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foxinessif i want "clamav" just to out put "found" virus ? how04:08
blakestill workin on appache04:08
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MeMcme123Does everyone here have thier Episode 3 tickets yet?04:09
foxinessif i want to run this command on start up "hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd" where i need to put it ?04:09
geppyAnyone in here any good with makefiles?04:09
snoop_anyone good with wireless connections? i need a bit of help04:10
thoreauputicbenplaut: IceWM ia kind of windowsish if they haven't used linux before04:10
thoreauputicfoxiness: actually you need to put an entry in /etc/hdparm.conf04:11
geppyargh04:11
geppyI can't stand it04:11
geppyprogramming gstreamer sucks04:11
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foxinessthoreauputic, i like the icon of xfce4 and am use terminal "of xfce on my gnome" i like it its look like firefox04:11
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foxinessthoreauputic, it act like firefox idea on some gui if im not wrong , i hope gnome follow that idea and use the same icon on xfce4.204:13
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shad0w1eis there any way to set up a list of directories that a user will see when they ftp in using vsftpd?04:16
snoop_anyone, does ubuntu support wap encrypted networks?04:17
hyphenatedsnoop_: if you mean WEP, then yes04:18
threadanybody know why a fresh apache/php4 install would cause the server to try and send down the php file rather than it's postprocessed output?04:18
hyphenatedassuming you have a decent driver for a decent wifi card04:18
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trahDoes Ubuntu come with an SSH server installed?04:19
snoop_hyphenated: i set up the drivers on my linux card, but it does not work..04:19
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snoop_* by linux, i mean linksys04:20
Banditgood evening04:20
threadtrah: no04:20
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threadtrah: openssh-server I think...04:20
trahhow can i start it?04:20
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goldfishtrah: u need to apt-get it04:20
trah:)04:20
threadtrah: it should start automatically... but yea (you need to install it)04:20
trahalright04:21
trahthanks, more help than i have gotten anywhere else.04:21
trahthanks04:21
threadanybody? please? ... setting up apache/php in ubuntu?04:22
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snoop_hyphenated: i have a home network with wpa pre shared key with AES, anyway to get that working?04:23
ficusplanetthread, Install apache2 and the php4 mod for it.04:23
dcraventhread: apache2? I thought it worked out of the box with php.04:23
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trahthanks alot :)!04:23
threadwe've done that04:23
makavelii have a problem i am trying to mount my windows partition and i keep on getting the error /dev/hdc already mounted or /hom/jr/windows busy04:24
makavelii can't figure it out04:24
ficusplanetthread, Then edit the config files in /etc/apache2 to your liking.04:24
Naliothtrah, we are all full of it04:24
Naliothtrah help, that is04:24
foxinessmakaveli, i think this for cdrom "hdc"04:24
makavelino04:24
ficusplanetthread, The default DocumentRoot is /var/www04:24
Naliothhate it when they get help and run04:24
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makavelia seperater partition on my hardrive04:25
threadficusplanet: we have our php files in /var/www... we've installed apache2 and apache2-mod-php404:25
foxinessmakaveli, k umount than mount again04:25
makavelitried that it says that it is not mounted04:25
ficusplanetthread, If you go to http://localhost/ what do you get?04:25
makavelii entered into fstab to try to mount it04:25
makaveliand it says that it is not mounted when i do umount04:26
threadficusplanet: the temp page04:26
thoreauputicmakaveli: /dev/hdc *can't* be a partition - a partition has a number04:26
thoreauputicmakaveli: like /dev/hdc2 or whatever04:26
makaveliit is the first partition on the drive04:26
makaveli/dev/hdc2 is my linux04:26
threadficusplanet: any .php we try and access, though, just wants to save the php file04:26
thoreauputicthen it is /dev/hdc104:26
foxinessmakaveli, than its 104:26
makaveliok that's the problem than04:26
dcraventhread: any output from "ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ | grep php"?04:26
makavelialso do u know any thing about bachs04:27
makaveli?04:27
makavelii'm trying to get that working so that i can use some of my windows programs04:27
thoreauputicmakaveli: you mean "bochs" ?04:27
dcraventhread: I'm thinking that might be significant, but I'm not sure. I don't remember having to configure anything.04:27
snoop_Nalioth: a bit of help? i am trying to set up a wireless connection, but it wont work for some reason..04:27
makaveliyes04:27
foxinessmakaveli, i think u mean somthing like vmware like qemu04:27
ficusplanetthread, I didn't have to configure anything either.04:27
makaveliyea04:27
threaddcraven: php4.conf and php4.load exist in that directory04:27
makavelithat's what bochs is04:28
dcraventhread: and did you do a "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" after you installed the php mod?04:28
threadyep.. we've restarted apache (even rebooted)04:28
thoreauputicmakaveli: if it's simple programs, wine might do it for you04:28
dcraventhread: be certain you are starting *apache2*, not apache.04:28
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foxinessmakaveli, than try qemu its basd on bochs and its easy of use04:29
makavelii couldn't figure out that either04:29
makaveliok will try that04:29
makavelithe only thing is...04:29
dcraventhread: there are scripts to start both in /etc/init.d/...04:29
allynanyone using dvdrip?04:29
makavelithat on their website they themselves weren't to sure if it would work with xp04:29
makavelithey have a question mark next to it04:29
Naliothsnoop_, i'm not much good with encrytption or x86 based stuff. all my eqpt was made by Apple04:29
makaveliso that's why i tried bochs04:29
thoreauputicmakaveli: what programs do you want to run?04:30
foxinessmakaveli, did u mean qemu ?04:30
makaveliyea qemu has a question mark next to xp04:30
threaddcraven: good call... we are in fact running apache2, not apache04:30
makavelii want to run trillian mostly04:30
snoop_Nalioth: on a ppc? hows that working?04:30
threaddcraven: everything looks great!04:30
threadany other thoughts?04:30
makavelii don't like the other chat clients and trillian i really like04:30
thoreauputicmakaveli: I assume you've tried gaim ?04:30
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foxinessmakaveli, did u tried crossoffice ?04:31
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makaveliyea04:31
thoreauputicmakaveli: there are several chat clients for linux04:31
makavelitried both of them04:31
K_Dallasmakaveli: crossover installs trillian but why not gaim?04:31
nmorsehey b2s, I heard you might be able to help with an eMachines laptop sound issue?04:31
ficusplanetK_Dallas, Because gaim is installed by default with ubuntu.  It is a Linux app.04:31
makaveliwhat is crossover?04:31
K_Dallasgaim is free and constantly in developement04:31
makavelii don't really like gaim that much04:32
K_Dallasgaim runs under windows too04:32
Burgundaviamakaveli, a commercial wine product04:32
Burgundaviamakaveli, made by the people who sponsor wine development04:32
makaveliok04:32
snoop_anybody good with wireless? i could use some help04:32
makaveliso i will try to use crossover because i couldn't get wine to work04:32
K_Dallasbut then you have to pay for trillian and crossover04:32
ficusplanetK_Dallas, Why would you run Gaim in wine, though?  It is installed in Ubuntu by default.04:32
foxinessmakaveli, did u need somthing like msn ?04:32
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FX|LaptopHello04:32
K_Dallasficusplanet, did i say that?04:32
foxinessFX|Laptop, hi04:32
danko123456yo04:32
snoop_sup04:33
makavelinot really i just like trillians layout and the options that trillian has04:33
FX|LaptopCould someone give me a hand with vnc?04:33
thoreauputicficusplanet: I think you are missing the point04:33
FX|Laptopit works fine except for my keyboard which I think I chosed the wrong setting when I first logged in.04:33
ficusplanetK_Dallas, Ah, my fault.  Got into that conversation a little too late.04:33
K_Dallas:) no problem04:33
FX|LaptopI chosed the gnome setting instead of the x setting and now the keys don't work right.04:33
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nmorseI guess b2s probably won't respond as he's been idle for over 2 days04:34
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Naliothsnoop_, mostly it works great04:34
FX|LaptopOhms!!!!!!!04:34
foxinessFX|Laptop, 101 , 104 try somthing else a04:35
FX|LaptopI have tried that.04:35
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snoop_Nalioth, cool...04:35
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lmhhi, have a problem with the refresh rate of a monitor. have two monitors with radeon9500 card, right monitor has vertical 75Hz instead of 60 Hz and horizontally 93 instead of 7504:36
foxinessFX|Laptop, if im not wrong gnome use x setting /etx/X11/xorg.conf04:36
lmhanybody an idea`?04:36
danko123456nmorse, what is the matter with your sound card?04:36
nmorseanyone here know how to get an ali m5475 card working?04:36
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FX|LaptopWhat I thought also, but wouldn't know what to change in there.04:36
nmorseThe modules are loaded, just no sound04:36
nmorseNot in Gnome, not in KDE, nowhere04:36
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Naliothsnoop_, there are some things that don't work well (or at all), but mostly its all good04:37
allynlmh is it a dual monitor setup?04:37
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lmhallyn: yes04:37
lmhallyn: but without xinerama04:37
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allynhave you looked at xorg.conf?04:37
snoop_Nalioth, what sort of things dont work?04:37
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lmhallyn: yes, had trouble to get it working, now works, but with the prob04:38
danko123456nmorse, do you know of the alsamixer program?04:38
allyni know how to erit refresh on signle monitor system, not sure how different dual monitors is04:38
allynoh ok04:38
sauliwhy I get this when I try to login as root "root logins are not allowed"04:38
lmhallyn: ok, can i send you my con?04:38
lmhconf04:38
Naliothsnoop_, i have not gotten java to work (am not interested in doing flips and somersaults to achieve java installation)04:38
nmorseyes, I know about alsamixer and alsamixergui and kmix and ...04:38
allynlmf can you do it in pastebin?04:38
lmh?04:39
Naliothsnoop_, swf_play takes over my system (i have to kill -9 the multiple instances)04:39
lmhwhats pastebin?04:39
danko123456http://pastebin.com04:39
JanCsauli : use sudo04:39
snoop_Nalioth, swf, that sucks...lots of sites have swf embedded04:39
danko123456nmorse: did you try unmuting stuff, and muting other stuff in there?04:39
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danko123456and changing levels, and that?04:39
Naliothsnoop_, there are soem things that are not as dev'd for the PPC as there are for the x8604:39
nmorseYeah04:39
snoop_Nalioth, yeah, its new, but i'll get better...04:40
allynlmh where does xchat save downloads, do you know?04:40
danko123456nmorse: in a little bit, *crimsun* should be here, and he is the resident sound specialist:), so he may know04:40
lmhdesktop?04:40
lmhdon't know04:40
snoop_Nalioth, *it will04:40
Dethreadallyn, probably in ~/.xchat04:40
allynyeah desktop i found it :-)04:40
snoop_anyone,  a bit of help with wireless?04:40
saulihow to use sudo04:41
danko123456sudo command04:41
JanChttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:41
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thoreauputicallyn: actually  ~/.xchat204:41
snoop_i set up ndiswrapper and entered in the password (WPA), but it doesnt work..04:41
Naliothsnoop_, had to build from source several components of my sound (libfaac, libfaad <<whatever they are called, etc)04:42
JanCsauli : there is also an explanation why sudo is better on the wiki page04:42
allynlmh are the monitors identical?04:42
benplautanyone gotten GmailFS to work with ubuntu?04:42
Dethreadsnoop_, where did you enter the password?04:42
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snoop_Dethread, in the networking GUI thing..04:43
lmhallyn: yes, two HP L2035 LCDs, but for one i used the DVI - in, with the other one the VGA - in04:43
Dethreadsnoop_, I had a similar problem ... I think it expects the password in hex04:43
snoop_Dethread, ah..i have it in text..04:43
saulithat not help me04:43
Dethreadsnoop_, I only got it working by enterying it from console via iwconfig04:43
Dethreadsnoop_, there you can specify that it's in text04:43
danko123456sauli: what not help you?04:43
Dethreadsnoop_, man iwconfig  <- that'll help04:44
danko123456sudo command  or..... (21:41:22) JanC: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:44
snoop_Dethread, can you help me through that? i'm new to linux..04:44
Dethreadsnoop_, I can try04:44
snoop_Dethread, thanks04:44
Dethreadprivate message me and we'll see04:44
sauliI just want loggin in my gnome or kde desktop as root uset04:44
JanCsauli : why not ?04:44
danko123456sauli, taht can be enabled,. if you really want to.04:44
JanCsauli : you don't want that04:44
danko123456sauli, consult http://ubuntuguide.org/#allowrootlogingnome04:45
danko123456but, as JanC said, you dont really want that, read the wiki.04:45
thoreauputicsauli: running a desktop as root is a *really* bad idea04:45
saulisudo works well in console but how I can loggin my desktop as root04:45
paulproteussauli: It's "strongly advised against".04:45
thoreauputicdon't04:45
JanCwhy do you want that ?04:45
paulproteussauli: If you want to, you can:04:45
paulproteussudo passwd root04:45
danko123456sauli, danko123456 gave you a link to the wlkthrough.04:45
paulproteusAnd then edit the gdm config file.04:45
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paulproteus(Right; I'll stop talking, then. :)04:46
danko123456or that too:-p04:46
allynlmh ok i was just noticing that your config in xorg.conf the 2 monitors have different settings for refresh rates04:46
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allyndoes either of thm work the way you want it?04:46
lmhallyn thats because the vga-in has different values to the dvi -in04:46
snoop_Dethread,  can you join #snoop ?04:46
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nmorseso no one in here has an ali m5475 soundcard in a laptop that doesn't seem to work in Ubuntu?04:47
allynoh, them im not sure then, srry havent done dvi only analog04:47
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makavelireal quick question how do i install a compiler because i am getting the error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH when i run ./configure04:47
danko123456nmorse: I know I do not.04:47
danko123456crimsun knows sound cards...04:47
allynapt-get install gcc04:47
danko123456he may be here in a little bit.04:47
makavelithank you04:48
nmorseI'll see if I can track him down in ubuntu-motu04:48
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thoreauputicallyn, you should have told hime to install build-esential - gcc by itself isn't enough04:49
dipwhen choosing SD memory, what would you guys consider a more reliable brand, kingston or viking ?04:49
poopinabootneither04:49
danko123456viking, for sure...04:49
danko123456:)04:49
poopinabootthey all suck04:49
poopinabooteverything is so bleak04:49
poopinabootsoemoen kill me04:49
danko123456ahaha04:49
danko123456wtf...:)04:49
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allynoops didnt think about build-essential04:50
Levande1Anybody know a good IRC channel anywhere that does Windows support?04:50
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JanCLevande1 : not here  :)04:50
Levande1damn04:50
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thoreauputicLevande1: you won't find one on Freenode :)04:50
Levande1well can i at least get a  recommendation for another channel then?04:51
Levande1how about another server?04:51
dipI found the best deal with those 2 brands for same price but tough time deciding between the 2 brands04:51
foxinessLevande1, you are on freenode :)04:51
Levande1i know, but it's fairly easy to connect to another server04:51
poopinabootLevande1: google it04:51
thoreauputicLevande1: is there such a thing as a windows IRC help channel? I've never found one...04:51
^thehatsrule^Levande1, what do you need about windows? lol04:51
poopinabootLevande1: we're all geeks in here04:51
Levande1poopinaboot: gee, thanks for you help poopinaboot, not like i haven't tried that04:51
danko123456like what support for windows, now?04:51
^thehatsrule^weve all used windows here before prolly...04:51
poopinabootLevande1: I do what i can04:52
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poopinabootstrange that my nick is poop though04:52
_natethere04:52
^thehatsrule^heh04:52
danko123456nate dude:)04:52
_natesup danko12345604:52
_natepoopinaboot is my name on wolfenstein04:52
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danko123456hey, uh, Levande1, what is the thing you are trying to get help with?04:52
danko123456there are sites on the web with walkthroughs...04:53
^thehatsrule^rtcw:ET _nate?04:53
foxinesswhy pepole need xp irc channel 4 ?04:53
IFR_tritium, if you're still here I have one other question about that linux-686 kernel ?04:53
_nate^thehatsrule^: none other04:53
^thehatsrule^nice!04:53
Levande1poopinaboot: okay, i've set xp up just to auto-update my computer whenever an update comes out, so I don't have to remember to do it, etc.  However, apparently, in between downloading the update, and installing, the computer nags me that it's already downloaded an update. Do I want to go ahead and install it before it's auto-installed?  How do I get rid of that nag?04:53
^thehatsrule^come to my chan ;p04:53
danko123456Levande1: and support.micorsoft.com has a lot of information on Windows, as it would...04:53
HrdwrBoBLevande1: this is #ubuntu last time I checked04:53
^thehatsrule^lol04:54
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Levande1have no idea why you guys just didn't ignore me if yall didn't want windows chatter, and didn't know the answer to my question anyway?04:54
_nateLevande1: microsoft ties your hands, good luck finding a resolution04:54
danko123456Levande1: well, I did not cause I was wondering what can go wrong on windows, personally.04:54
anemiat1when i start installing kubuntu, will it ask autoatically to se free space? I do not wissh to delete my windows yet?04:54
Levande1but don't worry about, thanks anyways guys, i'll prolly post something on the arstechnica boards04:54
thoreauputicLevande1: that sounds like a plan :)04:55
foxinessLevande1, just reboot04:55
Levande1anemiat1: do you have free space on your hard drive that isn't partitioned?04:55
anemiat1yes04:55
danko123456haha, awesome, foxiness04:55
Levande1foxiness: that's part of the nagging i want to avoid04:55
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jonyhi04:55
danko123456anemiat1: it will default to erase everything, choose not to.04:55
IFR_Hmm. OKay, does anyone know if the linux-686 package  it a patch in the sense that it will pick up options I had in the -386, such as radio and encryption options?04:56
jonyhow can i make something like chkdsk ????04:56
anemiat1how do I do that?04:56
anemiat1press F1?04:56
anemiat1??04:56
HrdwrBoBIFR_: if you were just loading modules, yes04:56
thoreauputicLevande1: when a system is as opaque as windows, these things can be pretty hard to fix04:56
Levande1anemiat1: make sure you do "manual partitioning" during the ubuntu install.  It will let you tell it to use the unpartitioned space on your hard disk.04:56
foxinessLevande1, u will do that soon im sure :)04:56
danko123456it will be one of teh 2 ptions during install.04:56
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Levande1thoreauputic: this is #ubuntu, not #xp, you are off-topic, please take your windows chatter elsewhere please04:56
danko123456ahha04:56
danko123456awesome.04:57
foxinessLevande1, than do not wast ur time do it now04:57
IFR_Sorry HrdwrBoB I don't quite understand. danko123456 was that for ifr?04:57
danko123456Every night now...04:57
jonyi want to check a hard disk for errors how can i do this?04:57
thoreauputicLevande1: I hope that was intended as a joke ;)04:57
danko123456nope IFR_, for the guy with the inhstallation issue.04:57
threadanybody know why a fresh apache2/php4 install would cause the server to try and send down the php file rather than it's postprocessed output?04:57
IFR_Sorry HrdwrBoB I don't quite understand. I was hpoing to basically upgrade from 2.10.5-386 to *68604:57
anemiat1I am confused? Will it give me an option to use unpartitioned (free) space?04:57
danko123456anemiat1: yes.04:57
Levande1thoreauputic: no, i was trying to get everybody angry in this room at me so i'd get banned?04:57
anemiat1ok thanks04:57
HrdwrBoBIFR_: yes, it will work exactly the same04:57
anemiat1I am going for it04:57
anemiat1bye04:57
Levande1maybe my humor's jus off a little today, sorry04:57
danko123456anemiat1: it will ask do you want to erase everything, you wil say no, and choose where to install.04:58
anemiat1I see04:58
IFR_Great, so I needn't specify all the wep and radiop stuff which presently works HrdwrBoB?04:58
anemiat1and does it install grub or lilo?04:58
thoreauputicLevande1: you'd be surprised how many people do exactly that...04:58
JanCanemiat1 : grub04:58
anemiat1ok thanks04:58
HrdwrBoBIFR_: correct04:58
IFR_Thank you so much04:58
Levande1anemiat1: not an easy menu option, but you can go into "manual parititioning" and follow fdisk (or whatever it uses) to use the unpartitioned space on your disk04:58
JanCwith an entry for you windows installation04:58
danko123456your windows boot may be borked, but if it is on the same drive, there are ways to get grub to boot windows once you are insatllesd, and likely it will create that option by itself during install.04:58
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foxinessLevande1, this banned its just for fun04:59
Levande1anemiat1: it will give you options to install grub or lilo during the ubuntu install04:59
Levande1thoreauputic: yeah, i know, sorry, shouldn't have made that joke04:59
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danko123456Levande1: your xp...reinstall?, I dont know, I never fix anything in windows when it is broken...05:00
IFR_Anyone know if there's an ubuntu package for wifi-radar?05:00
Levande1danko123456: you are now off-topic!05:00
danko123456IFR_: I know, yes.05:00
danko123456:))05:00
IFR_Ah. Can you tell me?05:00
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Levande1IFR_: you apt-cache searched?05:00
IFR_Yes.05:00
danko123456IFR_: guy named ivoks that comes here maintains it..05:00
karljpone more try: anyone got ac3 audio in totem to work?05:00
eob84I was wondering what I need to set audiosrc to, to get Rythmbox to work in KDE05:00
danko123456IFR_: or rather, it is not included yet.05:00
danko123456ioll grab you the deb.05:00
Levande1IFR_: there's also packages.ubuntu.com you could do a fuller search with (i think it does a fuller search)05:01
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danko123456IFR_: http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/05:01
IFR_Thanks Levande, I'll have a look! danko123456, that's great - how can I get it from you?05:01
IFR_Ah!05:01
danko123456that guy ivoks maintains it, it is likely to get included in ubuntu05:02
danko123456Ill get you links for the wiki about it.05:02
foxinesstime to go to "ZzzZZzz" c l8r "glad to not to see XP on my dream tonight"05:02
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IFR_Thanks so much for that danko123456!05:02
jonyWHATS THE CHKDSK EQUIVALENT COMMAND??05:02
danko123456IFR_: at the end of the new packages list, under Ante Kramaric: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages .05:02
jonyplz05:02
danko123456jony: whts chkdsk?05:02
danko123456hehe05:03
HrdwrBoBjony: fdisk05:03
danko123456tht trnd out fnny05:03
HrdwrBoBfor all the good it'll do you05:03
thoreauputicjony: take the gum out from behind your capslock key ...05:03
HrdwrBoBjony: what is your problem05:03
foxinessHrdwrBoB, do not do that05:03
danko123456ppl hate asking twice...05:03
bob2jony: fsck, and a) don't repeat, b) don't use caps05:03
HrdwrBoBfoxiness: do not do what, tell people what they asked for?05:03
danko123456jony: whats chkdsk?05:03
jonyi need something like scandisk and sorry for the caps but it seems the only way to get atention05:04
HrdwrBoBjony: why05:04
karljpman, i've asked 4 or 5 times, and got neither yelled at or an answer05:04
foxinessHrdwrBoB, k but not all pepole clever05:04
nmorsemaybe someone can help me with the specific error message from /etc/init.d/alsa restart05:04
karljpI guess I've been asking the wrong question05:04
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bob2jony: no, it's the way to get ignored.  do not do it again.05:04
danko123456jony: try reading up on fsck, seems like a real too,05:04
jonyok i wont05:04
HrdwrBoBfoxiness: no, but just knowing the command will do him no good05:04
danko123456tool05:05
HrdwrBoBkarljp: what is your problem?05:05
nmorse"/etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1221: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing'"05:05
karljpheres 6: anyone got ac3 in totem working?05:05
karljpit works in xine, but no audio in totem for dvds.05:05
danko123456jony: man fsck05:05
bob2karljp: probably if you install totem-xine05:05
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karljpI thought totem used all the gstreamer stuff?05:05
jonyok i'll research05:05
nmorseanyone know what that means?05:05
danko123456do that.05:05
danko123456did yuo sudo that nmorse?05:06
thoreauputickarljp: totem is a front end - you can use totem-gstreamer or totem-xine05:06
eob84does anyone one know why I get this error from rhythmbox "Could not open resource for writing."05:06
saulihow I can remove all users password I dont neet so much security05:06
karljpyeah, just saw that from my apt-cache search05:06
danko123456nmorse: sudo05:06
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thoreauputicsauli: we don't wnt to encourage your ideas, sorry05:07
karljpI thought gstreamer was "the way"05:07
karljpis there a gstreamer way to get ac3 working?05:07
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thoreauputicsauli: the default security is there for excellent reasons05:07
karljptimtowdi, that sort of thing?05:07
danko123456jony: better question would have been to ask hw to do what you are trying to achieve, maybe...05:07
danko123456more specific.05:07
lmhwhats the difference between xfree86 and xorg? what does ubuntu take as a standrad?05:07
bob2karljp: I really doubt gstreamer supports patented codecs05:08
thoreauputiclmh: 1) not much 2) xorg05:08
danko123456sauli: ?05:08
danko123456hehe05:08
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bob2lmh: xfree86 is where X development used to happen.  then they went crazy and changed the licese, so now everyone works on x.org.05:08
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bob2lmh: hoary uses x.org by default05:08
lmhthanks05:08
thoreauputiclmh: xfree is pretty much dead05:08
karljpthere's gstreamer-ffmeg, gstreamer-mpeg2dec and co05:08
karljpI think it does :)05:08
bob2karljp: not in ubuntu05:09
danko123456whats ac3, anyhow?05:09
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jonywhen i use fsck should the device be unmounted?05:09
danko123456ill google/05:09
bob2jony: yes05:09
karljpthe format dvd audio normally is in05:09
thoreauputicjony: yes05:09
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jonythanx05:09
karljpbob2: correct, but is dvd playing even in ubuntu?05:09
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bob2karljp: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:10
bob2karljp: (no)05:10
karljpdidn't think so05:10
bob2yay for stupid laws05:10
karljpand no, the restricted format page doesn't say how to make it work in totem05:10
bob2indeed05:10
karljpbut when I work it out, I'll be updating it :)05:10
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bob2so use totem-xine or something else05:10
karljpcan you give me a one or two sentence summary on the roadmap of xine vs gstreamer?05:11
karljpI only want to use totem because it's all built in nicely05:11
karljpand xine and mplayer and vlc aren't05:11
bob2gstreamer is the way of the future, but laws suck oh so much05:11
danielskarljp: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/VideoPlaybackRoadmap05:11
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danielsthat's not even really even a sentence05:11
karljpit will do ;)05:11
thoreauputickarljp: totem-xine looks exactly like totem-gstreamer05:11
karljpbut it's based on xine, not gstreamer.05:12
karljpand isn't gstreamer, "the way for the future"05:12
danko123456of...05:12
karljpthey both fit :)05:12
thoreauputickarljp: it depends on whether you want stuff that works, or want to contribute to the "way of the future" i guess05:12
karljpI'd like both if possible05:13
karljpif I wanted stuff that works, I'd still be on windows ;)05:13
danko123456nope, the future dont work...05:13
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karljpooh look at the pretty moon05:13
jonyok wahts the easy way to make a standard chack with fsck ????05:13
karljpit actually was quite pretty tonight05:13
allynspkeaking of totem-gstreamer when i try to install it it wants to remove dvdrip and libvorbis0, anyone know a workaround? rhythm box does the same05:13
jonyi have an external usb device which is giving me hell!05:13
_natetotem-xine works05:14
danko123456jony: give it hell right back.05:14
karljpfsck or chkdsk aren't going to help then jony05:14
_natethats what i like about it05:14
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danko123456i like the shiny movies it plays.05:14
danko123456:-p05:14
jonykarljp, what should i do then???05:14
danko123456whAT IS the device?05:14
karljpsmash it with a hammer for all I care05:14
danko123456a key?05:15
karljpyou need to explain your actual problems,05:15
karljpperhaps let us suggest solutions05:15
sauliI have not any secret in my computer05:15
danko123456ive been telling him.05:15
danko123456sauli, I love you, dude.05:15
danko123456me neither, but passwords are required, do you wnt a user to automatically sign in when you boot?05:16
jonykarljp, what do you suggest!!05:16
karljphow would I know, you've not told us what's actually going on.05:16
karljp"giving me hell" isn't very descriptive05:16
thoreauputicsauli: would you like someone to take over your computer and use it for spreading evilness? Please don't allow that, it affects everyone05:16
danko123456jony: what is the device?05:16
sauliI dont want never use password05:16
danko123456I dont think you can turn off all passwords.05:16
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danko123456I can tell you hwo to do it in PM.05:17
sauliI think linux developers have skitsofrenia05:17
danko123456hehem, there are real threats...05:17
danko123456and these systems are used for business as well.05:17
thoreauputicsauli: I think you have much yo learn05:17
thoreauputic*to05:17
danko123456yo...05:17
danko123456:)05:17
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thoreauputicmr_roboto: exactly05:18
nmorseI think Sauli needs to learn to spell schizophrenia05:18
jonydanko123456, its a usb harddisk. mp3 player by archos05:18
thoreauputicsauli: an insecure computer doesn't just affect you, it potentially affects others on the Net05:19
danko123456jony: ok, so you plugged it in, and nothing?05:19
mr_robotosauli's computer = just another spambot05:19
darkauditsauli: i'm gonna be blunt... there are *many* people waiting to turn your computer against you and the rest of the world if you actually attempt what you're suggesting. It's naive at best, and recklessly stupid at worst. Don't freakin' do it05:20
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sauliyeah now I know passwd -d root05:20
danko123456darkaudit: man, all you guys worry too much.05:20
danko123456back up your data finally...05:20
danko123456anyhow...we cant argue sudo, and taht.05:20
thoreauputicdanko123456: no, we all see what has happened to the net when peole use an insecure OS05:21
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danko123456If I even want to turn my computer into a spambot, my decision.05:21
thoreauputicdanko123456: guess which one?05:21
karljpright on danko05:21
darkauditdanko123456: Verizon blocked *Europe* from sending email to it's customers. You better believe I'm gonna worry05:21
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danko123456well, not that I am gonna fo it...or anything.05:21
karljpand I only stopped because I quit work05:21
danko123456well, email can be done differently then through an ISP...05:21
danko123456I never ever used an ISP email address.05:22
danko123456but, let us not play devils advocate.05:22
mr_robotolol    yeah, he uses someone else's open relay05:22
danko123456sauli: I wrote you an essay in private, so...05:22
mr_robotoprolly sauli's!05:22
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danko123456mr_roboto: I use gmail, or mailx, if I really need to send an email.05:23
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danko123456darkaudit: do you have an article I could read about that?05:23
saulibut still I dont can login in kde or gnome as root05:23
karljpverizon suckz0rs anyway05:23
karljpthis is why RBLs are bad mkay05:23
anethemaanyone here know how to make an iso of a dvd ive got in the drive? dvd playback is really jerky for some reason and i dont know how to fix itg05:23
danko123456sauli, talk to me in private, they dont wanna tell you anyhow.05:23
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thoreauputicsauli: you've been told05:23
karljpcollateral damage is NOT allowed05:23
sauliwhy that is so difficult05:23
danko123456anethema: how an iso out of a dvd?05:23
thoreauputicdanko123456: don't encourage him. please05:23
karljpsauli: ignore them.  if you want to run your machine as root, with x, you should be allowed to05:24
danko123456I use su, thore, is that so bad, am I bad now?05:24
saulibefore I have fedora and not this problem05:24
anethemayes i just want to make a iso then mount it05:24
karljpyou don't seem them crucifying people running people running windows as admin05:24
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nmorsepasswd root is your friend05:24
anethemaso i can play from the hard drive and it wont be jerky05:24
danko123456I mean, if this is the right way, everyone will do it eventually anyhow, just as with gstreamer.05:24
JanCdarkaudit : most spam comes from the US, so that would be stupid from Verizon...05:24
thoreauputickarljp: of course he has that freedom: but it's irresponsible use of freedom05:24
darkaudithttp://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,66226,00.html05:24
danko123456thanks05:24
karljpwho are you to decide freedom thoreau?05:24
saulihow to allowed root use x05:25
saulikde or gnome05:25
karljpit's freedom remember?05:25
darkauditJanC: you're tellin' me... ppl on the Verizon USENET boards are *pissed*05:25
stormy73034u can log in to gnome via root in ubuntu05:25
JanCyou talking about usenet spam ?05:25
darkauditand there's not one story about this... there are *hundreds*05:25
mr_robotokarljp: when your irresponsible use of your freedoms results in 50% of all mail being spam, and DoS attacks being more and more common, well... it's not just YOU any more05:25
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thoreauputickarljp: I don't decide it: but I am entitled to judge, just as you are. The idea that one should refrain from using judgment is equally absurd05:26
karljp50% of all mail being spam comes from spammers05:26
allynanethema how fast is our computer?05:26
karljpnot from someone wanting to not type passwords all day05:26
karljpplease don't confuse the two05:26
darkauditJanC: no... Verizon customers on USENET griping about the email blocking05:26
danko123456darkaudit: wtf, januar 2005,,,still????05:26
darkauditstill05:26
anethema320005:26
anethema3200+ amd05:26
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anethemaathlon xp05:26
JanCthere are some ISPs that are not responsible about spamming05:27
allynok, i encoded a dvd today using dvdrip on my XP260005:27
JanCjust block them05:27
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thoreauputickarljp: you seem blissfully unaware of hoe spammers use people's insecure computers to do their work05:27
allyntook a few hours but the dvd went down to 700mb05:27
karljpjanc: I respecfully disagree05:27
tritiumanethema \n how \n are \n you \n doing \n today \n ?05:27
karljpbut a lot of people believe that the collateral damage approach of RBL stuff is ok05:27
IcemanV9anethema: hdparm will fix it; http://ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom05:27
mr_robotokarljp: also, the script kiddies love to find yet another computer to add to their zombie list05:27
JanCit would be stupid to block every country that has 1 spammer05:27
anethemahaha yes..ill try that IcemanV905:27
danko123456darkaudit: no...:/05:28
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brad_Anyone else here using a prosavage card and get it workin in anything higher than 1024x768?05:28
JanCbecause you would have to block every IP-address then05:28
karljpthoreau + roboto: you've both just admitted the problem is with other people, not people not wanting passwords on their machine05:28
karljpyou do at least admit that you can be running a machine behind a nat?05:28
danko123456Well, maybe it is an attack on the verizon servers...or something, it is only a one company, and I have heard of theories that internet can only take so much spyware, and spam and that.05:28
thoreauputickarljp: why give those people easy access to machines that aren't theirs?05:28
mr_robotokarljp: of course it's other people... but you're just a freaking idiot to leave your door unlocked if you live in a bad part of town05:29
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bitsmashhello05:29
karljpI could have no passwords on this machine at all, and it wouldn't matter unless you got through the other machines in front of it05:29
mr_robotothe internet is a bad part of town :)05:29
bitsmashi downloaded 5.04 before it was release05:29
bitsmashreleased05:29
karljpthen you didn't get 5.0405:29
karljpget it again05:29
darkauditdanko123456: no... it's stated policy from Verizon... as far as Europe is concerned, they've gone to a whitelist. You have to request a domain be unblocked... everything else is SOL05:29
bitsmashok thanks ill take your word for it05:29
karljpthoreau, not having passwords != easy access to your machine from other people05:30
thoreauputickarljp: rubbish - he just needs to dist-upgrade05:30
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karljpdepends what his problem is :)05:30
bitsmashthoreauputic: ok thanks ill take your word for it?05:30
danko123456darkaudit: I happen to know, and issues get sorted, I work for an ISP...05:30
bitsmashheh05:30
karljpdo you want to install it from the cd and be done?05:30
karljpor do you just want to install something that will work?05:30
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karljpwhatyo uhave will probably work for the later05:30
karljplatter too.05:30
thoreauputickarljp: you are assuming a level of sophistication I doubt exists for such as sauli05:30
karljpperhaps :)05:30
bitsmashill just get the 5.0405:31
darkaudityoi... time for bed...05:31
karljpbut I still defend his right to want to do it :)05:31
danko123456thoreauputic: you know what I hate...is ppl abusing stuff like that, I wish everyone was fair, and then wireless would be more available everywhere...05:31
AndyFitzhey does anyone know of a tool to do  multi-lined find and replace actions in plain text ?05:31
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karljpI'm not a criminal, of course I'll register my dna an dfinger prints05:31
karljpit's called sed05:31
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karljpor perl -ie05:31
karljpdanko: where do you live?05:32
mr_robotodanko: but if you're intentionally insecure, you're an enabler for those who abuse the system... you make it worse overall05:32
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bitsmashis this it? ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso05:32
karljpand the wireless where I live now is free for anyone else too.05:32
IcemanV9bitsmash: yep05:32
karljpthe only reason I've seen people doing any form of wireless security is because they pay for bandwidth05:32
danko123456karljp: canada:)05:33
bitsmashis there a free winblows downloader thingy?05:33
mr_robotokarljp: well... another reason is you do NOT want to have isp logs of kiddie porn downloads through your access point from the pervs on the street :)05:33
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de_wizzewhats the diff between having the prerelease and upgrading the distro, and a fresh install with the final release05:33
danko123456AndyFitz: got that?05:34
bitsmashde_wizze: yes let me know05:34
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danko123456AndyFitz: do you use gnome?05:34
brad_what does apt-get -t do?05:35
AndyFitzdanko123456:  of course05:35
danko123456de_wizze: hopefully not much...05:35
danko123456AndyFitz: so, did you try gedit?05:35
danko123456it has a replace all function.05:35
danko123456mr_roboto: agreed.05:36
JanCbrad : man apt-get05:36
AndyFitzdanko123456,  normally I use gedit.  this time I need to do it to a batch of files05:36
anethemakick ass the dma thing worked05:37
danko123456there is a Unix command even.05:37
brad_thank you JanC05:37
anethemathanks IcemanV905:37
JanCbrad_ : 'man' shows you the manual of most programs05:39
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JanCalways try that if you need help with a program05:39
karljpbitsmash, shouldn't be any difference05:39
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stuNNedis it common if a gtk2 program locks up it might come back to life after about 5 minutes?05:40
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thechitowncubsI wish I could understand why Spatial is more efficient than Browser05:41
thechitowncubsor so some people think05:41
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NinjaYetiI can't find any good wireless configuration utilities or scripts. The gnome network one doesn't work for me, and just times out.05:42
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NinjaYetiany ideas?05:43
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danko123456stuNNed: yup, I use those all the time, a good thing to make the time pass by is tetris...:)05:43
danko123456jj05:43
thechitowncubsninja: what exactly are you trying to do05:43
snoop_anyone. can someone help me with a wireless card?05:43
bitsmashthere must be a faq about having a prerelease05:44
stuNNeddanko123456: lol05:44
stuNNedanyone use sylpheed?05:45
NinjaYetiwell, i've got a couple of wireless cards that i know will work in linux... one of which i could never get into monitor mode05:45
NinjaYetibut just something to set up a connection would be nice for now05:45
danko123456snoop_: what make and modekl is it, and then give me exactly 25 minutes at least.05:45
NinjaYetii'll figure out the kismet stuff later05:45
kakaltois the marillat repos working now?05:45
danko123456kakalto: did you try them?05:46
snoop_danko123456, its a linksys wireless g card  wmp54g05:46
danko123456k05:46
kakaltodanko123456, not yet...05:46
snoop_danko123456, will you be around tommorow ? i really have to get going soon...05:47
danko123456what type of card is it snoop_?05:47
snoop_danko123456, type?05:48
danko123456I do not kno much about it, I am just wodering...pcmcia...05:48
snoop_danko123456, pci05:48
bitsmashhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrading05:48
danko123456k, see ya soon.05:48
snoop_danko123456, desktop computer..05:48
danko123456k05:48
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lmhhi all, have a radeon 9550 card (r3xx), configured with xinerama with radeon driver.05:48
lmhnow i tried dri, but it does not work since the radeon driver doesn't support dri on that card.05:48
lmhsomebody told me to ask you if the ati driver supports mergedFB05:48
TwoBitSpriteyay, I just installed ubuntu :)05:48
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Dethreaddanko123456, snoop's card it's actually detected and set up as wlan0 I believe...he just can't connect to his network05:49
kakaltowhat's a gui for transcode?05:49
snoop_Dethread, thanks05:49
IcemanV9bitsmash: get over it. either install prerelease and update OR d/l a release one and install. simple is that.05:49
TwoBitSpriteunfortunately, I can't seem to connect to my windows shared drives... dmesg tells me: "smb_fill_super: missing data argument"05:50
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danko123456Dethread: has all the right settings in tehrem dhcp and that? power cycled everything? modem, then router, then computer?05:50
Dethreaddanko123456, haven't powercycled the router, I believe the settings are correct too, first suspected his WEP key to be the problem but it was being used correctly and it still didn't work after turning it off in the router, thus using no key05:51
Dethreaddanko123456, MAC filtering is not being used either05:52
danko123456Dethread: you have to power cycle, at least...05:52
TwoBitSpriteanyone have any idea why I can't mount smb drives?05:52
danko123456but, maybe has nothing to do with that...05:52
Dethreadsnoop_, hear that? :)05:52
TwoBitSpritedmesg tells me: "smb_fill_super: missing data argument"05:52
danko123456but power cyclking is a big thing, although it should not be too much for the wireless.05:52
snoop_Dethread, hmm?05:53
snoop_Dethread, powercycling?05:53
Dethreadsnoop_, turn router off and back on, i.e. pull the plug :)05:53
snoop_Dethread, ok05:53
snoop_Dethread, be right back..05:53
Dethreaddanko123456, in the network config tool, he doesn't see his network in the dropdown list either....even though it's broadcasting essid05:54
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snoop_Dethread, ok05:55
snoop_danko123456, ok...done05:55
amonkeycan i get ooo2 base from synaptic? i don't see it as a package05:55
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danko123456snoop_: everything, down modem, then router, then dcomputer.05:56
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danko123456turn on modem, wait a litlle, and the router, then comptuer.05:56
rymanmy ubuntu keep freezing when I try to log out05:56
danko123456but, try that when you are about to leave, as you are now...05:56
snoop_danko123456, wow....what?05:56
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JDahlamonkey, openoffice.org2, I believe05:56
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snoop_danko123456, shut everthing down ?05:57
snoop_danko123456, shutting down everything now.....be back in a while05:58
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amonkeybut not the package for "base" the access-esque part05:58
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danko123456hey, uh, Dethread... Set up your Wireless Router as an 'open' network.  I.e. Turn off all security such as WAP in Mac Address restriction....did he do that?05:59
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Dethreaddanko123456, yeah, I think he had all that off...gotta double check when he comes back though06:00
TwoBitSpriteis anyone else having problems mounting an SMB shared drive in Ubuntu??06:00
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cirkit_hi i just setup my ftp with proftpd and cant seem to access the ftp06:01
cirkit_ftp localhost06:01
cirkit_Connected to localhost.localdomain.   220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (Debian) [127.0.0.1]    Name (localhost:root):06:01
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cirkit_what do i do?06:02
ifrTwoBitSprite, how are you attempting to mount it?06:02
TwoBitSpriteifr: "sudo mount -t smbfs //KIM_DELL/SharedDocs /mnt/kim_dell"06:03
danko123456dethre didnt you guys talk about how instead of having it in decimal, to put the option in as hex?06:03
danko123456man..06:03
danko123456:)06:03
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ifrTwoBitSprite If your case sensitivity is right then try adding to the end of that -o user=user,password=password,gid=users,uid=uid06:04
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TwoBitSpriteifr: dmesg tells me "smb_fill_super: missing data argument"06:04
cirkit_anyone? ive setup the ftp with proftpd but cant seem to know where to access it from on the web06:04
TwoBitSpriteifr: but I've never needed user/pass before...06:05
Dethreadcirkit_, are you behind a router?06:05
ifrJust maks things better sometimes. You google he error ?06:05
cirkit_yeah06:05
cirkit_i opened up port 20 and 21 though06:05
Dethreadcirkit_, is port fowarding on?06:05
Dethreadah ok06:05
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cirkit_when i try ftp://localhost it asks for a password06:05
cirkit_and username06:05
samuelsup all06:06
danko123456cirkit_: well, you wont know till you remove the router, it seems.06:06
Dethreadcirkit_, ok...but it doesn't when you try it from the web/use the actual ip?06:06
ifrTwoBitSprite http://www.technorati.com/tag/sysadmin06:06
danko123456sup, sam...06:06
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cirkit_i dont use the actual ip06:06
snoop_danko123456, back..06:06
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ifrTwoBitSprite http://blog.anime.org.za/?p=1106:06
Dethreadcirkit_, which ip do you use?06:06
cirkit_i tried ftp://cirkit-ubuntu.homelinux.net06:06
cirkit_but nothing06:06
Dethreadcirkit_, well, is that forwarded correctly?06:06
samueldont know what i did, but ive lost root access to my computer - i was trying to change the name of the user i used on the install, and made another admin user, and deleted the last one, but that made me loose admin rights, how can i fix this please?06:06
cirkit_umm06:07
TwoBitSpriteifr: thanks, I'll check those out06:07
ifrI had the same problem.06:07
cirkit_i set port 20 and 21 on that hosts ipp06:07
ifrYou need smbfs and it'llwork06:07
cirkit_its still asks for a username and password06:08
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cirkit_where am i suppose to set that06:08
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Dethreadcirkit_, /etc/proftpd.conf06:08
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TwoBitSpriteifr: awesome, got it... thanks :)06:09
ifrCool!06:09
TwoBitSpriteok, next problem :P ... how do I get ubuntu to play MPEGs?06:09
TwoBitSpriteI opened Totem, and it says "nothing to handle mpeg" or something06:09
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ifrShove an Ipod under the case06:09
ifrand plug in you headset06:09
ifr;)06:09
danko123456samuel: had a guy here earlier same issue...they made him reboot, sign in as safe mode, and set up a root password with passwd root, or some such command.06:09
TwoBitSpriteI did "apt-get install libmpeg1 mpeglib" and still nothing06:10
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samueldanko123456, thanks, ill try that06:10
danko123456TwoBitSprite: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:10
danko123456ok, just a sec, samuel06:10
danko123456dang..06:10
snoop_danko123456, finished rebooting everything06:10
danko123456he never got to find out the command for setting up the root password.06:11
danko123456snoop_: good times.06:11
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snoop_danko123456, aye ;)06:11
danko123456ok, I have a couple of questions since youve been gone...06:11
snoop_k06:11
danko123456snoop_: did you read this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto ?06:11
snoop_yes06:12
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danko123456what about this part: Set up your Wireless Router as an 'open' network. I.e. Turn off all security such as WAP in Mac Address restriction. However you should set your Network Name (ESSID) in your Router. ?06:12
sjohnsonhey dudes, which FTPd's do you recommend06:12
danko123456dudes and dudettes...06:13
Dethreadsjohnson, I like/use proftpd06:13
snoop_the router is set as open and essid is set to broadcast06:13
danko123456bah06:13
danko123456so no WAP, then?06:13
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^thehatsrule^yes, proftpd is prolly themost pop06:13
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_nate_sleepingsjohnson: use sftp, its part of the open-ssh server06:14
danko123456it is certainly among the loved ones...:)06:14
_nate_sleepingsjohnson: ftp logins travel in clear text06:14
_nate_sleepingsjohnson: so your password can be intercepted06:14
kakaltohow do I use a deb-src?06:14
snoop_no06:14
_nate_sleepingsjohnson: use ssh and it can't be06:14
kakaltohow would I compile it with special options?06:14
_nate_sleepinganyone who uses ftp for their home machine is silly, unless its restricted to their personal LAN06:15
snoop_danko123456, its an open network..06:15
snoop_danko123456, for now ;)06:15
danko123456hehe...I found out that....you are somewhat SOL...for now, it seems.06:16
danko123456Read this guys page: http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/28.html its a broadcom chipset!!!06:16
danko123456but, after that, read this: http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/ .06:16
snoop_ok06:16
_nate_sleepingsnoop_: just shut down wireless when you're not using it, thats what i do, at least then its somewhat secure06:16
_nate_sleepingsnoop_: or use dual-routers, and put the wireless off by itself with MAC filtering06:17
pablo928nate_sleeping, unless they use yahoo webhosting, doesn't support sftp06:17
_nate_sleepingpablo928: maybe I misunderstand the context, for a personal ftp server, its more secure to use sftp.  When connecting to ftp servers on the net you don't have a choise, so back up everything06:18
danko123456snoop_: you ever heard of broadcom chipsets?06:18
_nate_sleepingchoice*06:18
_nate_sleepingman i'm tired06:18
danko123456nate, man, you are moonwalking again...06:18
snoop__nate_sleeping, i usually have encryption on it..06:18
danko123456thanks for the tip, nate:)06:18
snoop_danko123456, yes i think so06:19
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danko123456can the box of the card tell yuou if it uses that chipset?06:19
_nate_sleepingsnoop_: me too, but its a pain to configure multiple network settings using the current drivers for my wireless chipset, so i just turn off the encryption06:19
_nate_sleepingsnoop_: don't ya hate that?06:19
snoop__nate_sleeping, yeah...06:19
snoop__nate_sleeping, but it dosnt even work with this linux box now...06:20
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snoop_danko123456, to tell the truth i have no idea where the box is..06:20
_nate_sleepingsnoop_: ick, yeah, i hosed my wireless settings trying to use ubuntu's wireless manager06:21
_nate_sleepingsnoop_: then it didn't work for me.  Fortunately it was just before I was gonna do a reinstall06:21
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g14Anyone here played with the fast-user-switch-applet?06:21
danko123456snoop_: it seems it is a broadcom chipset on there, and the only thing you can do is fork up for the driver if you want it to work, I would not personally, since it just, how do I put it, makes it more profitable not to release the specs...06:21
snoop__nate_sleeping, very true..06:22
_nate_awaygoing to sleep, gnite everyone06:22
snoop__nate_away, dang...seems like i have to have it not connect to the internet, or get a ehternet connection06:22
snoop_danko123456, dang..no paying for me..06:24
snoop_danko123456, i suppose, i can just wait until i can run some ethernet upstairs..06:24
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snoop_danko123456, do you know what brands/types of wireless cards work well with linux ?06:25
blakehow do i install webmin????06:25
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bob2blake: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:25
snoop_danko123456, wait a second....the windows drivers, will it work for this?06:26
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Badness45i have a broadcom network adapter and when i installed warty it's not reconized06:26
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Badness45can some one help me install it06:27
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bitsmashhello06:27
choophello all06:27
bob2Badness45: is it too late to return it and get a better one?06:27
bitsmashhow do i upgrade from the prerelease to the release?06:27
Badness45get a better what?06:27
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bitsmasham i mistaken or did lynx want me to register when i tried to look up info how to upgrade from the prerelease06:28
dr_willisBadness45,  proberly just need to load the right modules..  then use the network tools to confoigure it..06:28
Dethreadbitsmash, I think "apt-get dist-upgrade' will do the trick06:28
amarodamn I love ubuntu06:28
danko123456snoop_: usually anything that has a prism 2 chipset.06:29
bitsmashDethread: i dont have to update my sources?06:29
Badness45ok what does that mean06:29
dr_willisBadness45,  check the 'dmesg' messages to see if its allready seen&modules loaded06:29
danko123456snoop_: not really a network person, I heard these things from others.06:29
Dethreadbitsmash, the sources are the same...but I'd incl. universe/multiverse anyway06:29
Badness45i tried the ndiswrapper06:29
snoop_danko123456, prism 2, huh...i'll keep that in mind.....06:29
Badness45still don't work06:29
Badness45imma turn my laptop on now06:29
snoop_danko123456, well thanks anyways.....06:29
bitsmashDethread: what do you mean incl. universe/multiverse06:29
dr_willisBadness45,  this a wireless carrd?06:29
Badness45yeah06:30
danko123456yup. come check again sometime, ivoks may know more.06:30
Badness45broadcom06:30
dr_willisUgh.    Cant help ya much then. OTher then say go check out the Ubuntu wiki's06:30
bitsmashDethread: as well as hoary/main?06:30
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snoop_Badness45, sounds like the problem i have....you apparently have to pay for linux drivers..06:30
kwamehi!06:30
bob2Badness45: can you exchange it?06:30
kwameI have an usb hp deskjet 3550 printer06:30
Badness45exchange my laptop06:31
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bob2snoop_: er, doesn't it just require ndiswrapper?06:31
kwameIt sends to print, but with no ink! ... the cartirge is full, I can print in windows ... any help?06:31
Badness45snoop: what laptop u have i have the hp06:31
snoop_bob2, i tried....didnt work06:31
snoop_Badness45, i have a desktop...06:31
danko123456snoop_: yeah, soundsw like the same issue.06:31
sjohnson_nate_away, : thanks06:31
Badness45in man hp06:31
Badness45oh06:32
sjohnsonDethread,  are you here?06:32
Badness45what is ndiswrapper06:32
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snoop_danko123456, you think i screwed up on setting up ndiswrapper? i set it up exactly as the guide said..06:32
Dethreadsjohnson, yes06:32
Badness45people in forums said that they were able to get it to work with the ndiswrapper06:32
snoop_Badness45, ndiswrapper lets you use windows drivers for linux..06:32
Badness45oh06:33
Dethreaddanko123456, iwconfig looked good, so I think the driver is ok :-/06:33
danko123456snoop_: I dont think much...but, from what I just researched into the card, it seems that those are the only frivers.06:33
snoop_Badness45, but didnt work for me06:33
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Badness45at the very end of the install06:33
Badness45when i type06:33
danko123456Dethread: IT MAY WELL be, I suck at wireless.06:33
Badness45ndiswrapper -l it say invalid driver06:33
Dethreadcaps-lock stuck or are you angry?06:33
snoop_danko123456, i just took the drivers off the windows cd..06:34
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Badness45snoop what inf files where off the cd06:34
stuNNedhow to edit gnome menu?06:34
danko123456snoop_: took the drivers like that for ndiswrapper?06:34
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Badness45oh06:34
snoop_Badness45, i just took the bcmwl5.inf file off it06:35
danko123456snoop_: is this the card, http://madwifiwiki.thewebhost.de/wiki/LinksysWMP55AG06:35
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snoop_danko123456, no mines wmp54g06:35
Badness45imma check my system cd06:35
sjohnsonDethread, i changed the port number in the /etc/proftpd.conf file, but i can't figure out how to make the changes apply06:35
danko123456right...06:35
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danko123456damn nuimber06:36
sjohnson*test*06:36
snoop_danko123456, yeah....so frustrating..06:36
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paulproteussjohnson: Did you restart ProFTPd?06:36
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Dethreadsjohnson, there's a way to restart a service...can't remember how...just kill proftpd and then start it again06:37
danko123456im not a frustratable person, that much, pluis, It is not my case...06:37
snoop_Badness45, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto06:37
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paulproteus /etc/init.d/proftp restart ?06:37
snoop_danko123456, so true :)06:37
danko123456but...Broadcom sucks!!! I have an apple, ntw.06:37
danko123456btw06:37
Dethreadpaulproteus, that's what he needs...how do you do that again? it's /etc/init.d/proftpd restart or so I think06:37
snoop_Badness45,  also see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto06:37
snoop_danko123456, what kind of apple?06:37
paulproteusDethread: All the scripts to *init*ialize (and de-initialize) daemons are in /etc/init.d06:37
sjohnsonDethread, it's using inetd06:37
Dethreadpaulproteus, yeah...i just wasn't sure about the "restart" option :)06:37
paulproteusSo "ls" around that directory if you ever get stuck.06:37
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IcemanV9stuNNed: wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb, then sudo dpkg -i smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb06:38
sjohnson*sigh*06:38
paulproteusDethread: Hint: "Just try it."06:38
sjohnsonlinux sure is frustrating06:38
Dethreadpaulproteus, nah...sjohnson can try it :)06:38
paulproteussjohnson: If it's using inetd, then you must change inetd.conf.06:38
DethreadI will when I need it06:38
anethemablug06:38
paulproteusDethread: Okay. :)06:38
snoop_danko123456, and yes broadcom does suck.....i hope their stock sells at -$2.0006:38
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paulproteussjohnson: /etc/inetd.conf  - change the port from "ftp" to some number you want.06:38
paulproteusThen restart inetd.06:38
danko123456he may have to use sudo.06:39
danko123456snoop_: agreed:-$06:39
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snoop_danko123456, thats the only way they'll learn06:39
devnullmy libraries packages didn't seem to interface with pkg-config i think i am missing some files06:39
snoop_anyways, i'm off....got to get some sleep....i'll try again tommorow or later....06:40
snoop_thanks for all the help everybody06:40
snoop_danko123456, thanks06:40
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snoop_later, all06:40
akrushello06:41
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g14Any esd masters that want to show their kung foo?06:41
derekanyone here using a dell port replicator with a latitude series laptop?06:41
danko123456bob2: there is support for his card listed in ndiswrapper, maybe he did not follow that that well.06:41
danko123456g14:)06:41
akruswhat should I change in xorg.conf to set 75Hz?06:41
bob2g14: way better to just ask your question06:42
g14When I switch users using the fast user switch applet, the new users can't play sound because esd is running as the first user. Any ideas?06:42
bob2don't use the fast user switch applet06:43
bob2or kill esd before switching06:43
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g14bob2: I realize I can kill esd, but is there any other sort of way to "proxy" the sound requests or whatnot?06:43
danko123456bob2: good alternative...06:43
bob2no06:43
g14I would really like to see fusa in breezy by default06:43
bob2I've never even heard of "fusa"06:44
choopso what's a good score in frozen-bubble?06:44
bob2moving to Yet Another Sound Daemon seems like a terrible idea06:44
danko123456fast user switch applet...its all over the news..06:44
g14bob2: http://ignore-your.tv/fusa/06:44
g14bob2: No, I'm thinking about talking to esd upstream to see if it can be fixed somehow06:44
kakaltohow do I compile from source a deb-src?06:44
bob2kakalto: why do you want to compile it?06:45
danko123456bob2: or, kill esd once logged in, as a login scrpit?06:45
danko123456as root?06:45
bob2that could work06:45
danko123456oooh, damn Im good.06:45
kakaltobob2, I need special options... and can't find the source on the internet06:45
danko123456that ws a design right there,06:45
bob2kakalto: what special options?06:45
kakaltoto do with avi's, in transcode06:45
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danko123456bob2: a personal question about your work?06:46
bob2danko123456: ok06:46
bob2kakalto: it's more complicated than you think06:46
g14danko123456, I might try that out, thanks. Do you know what file in the gnome login starts esd?06:46
akruscan I install KDE on Ubuntu?06:46
kakaltobob2, it's the only way :(06:46
danko123456bob2: what do you do at canonical?06:46
bob2kakalto: "apt-get source transcode", then edit debian/rules to use whatever config option you want06:46
akrusvia updater?06:46
kakaltoakrus, yes06:46
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bob2kakalto: then "sudo apt-get build-dep transcode ; sudo apt-get install build-essential", then "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" in the source dir06:46
kakaltoakrus, kubuntu-desktop is what you're looking for06:46
kakaltobob2, thanks :)06:47
danko123456are you gonna answer>06:47
danko123456lol06:47
danko123456jj06:47
bob2danko123456: I nominally work on bazaar (bazaar.canonical.com), but at the moment I've been hijacked for other stuff06:47
akrus:))06:47
danko123456cool, like what?06:47
akrusI'll try to install using Synaptic :D06:47
danko123456bazaar, nominally means primarily?06:47
bob2sorta06:47
mzalim_hellol06:48
bob2I'll go back to that at some point06:48
g14So I'm going to guess that bob2 == python_master06:48
bob2heh, I know which end of the filter() to use ;)06:48
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g14ha06:48
danko123456bob2: hijacked to other projects, or just personal stuff?06:48
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bisleyhi06:49
danko123456yo, bisley06:49
bob2danko123456: to other stuff within canonical06:49
danko123456k, like...? Ubuntu at all?06:49
bisleyanyone have problems to get Packages.gz from http://security.ubuntu.com in apt-get update?06:49
JDahlI wish matplotlib would get included in Breezy... it's sort of annoying to build from source, and invaluable06:50
g14bob2, Some of the MOTU are packaging fusa for ubuntu and are toying with it http://ankur.ath.cx/ubuntu/fast-user-switch-applet/06:50
bob2danko123456: no, not ubuntu06:50
bob2g14: ah, cool06:50
bisleyi received an "cannot download md5sum is different06:50
bob2JDahl: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU, you can ask someone to include it06:50
bisleybut in spanish ;)06:50
bob2bisley: did you try again?06:51
bisleylot of times06:51
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kakaltobob2, where are the debian/rules?06:52
Cybermagellanhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ServerBanners06:52
bob2kakalto: in the source tree you just downloaded.  look in the directory you ran apt-get source in06:52
kakaltowhich file? a .dsc?06:52
kakaltoor in the folder which was created06:53
bob2kakalto: ?06:53
bob2kakalto: in the folder it created06:53
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kakaltobob2, what file would it be called?06:53
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bob2kakalto: debian/rules...06:54
kakaltoahh06:54
kakaltosorry, I'm not thinking straight today06:54
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sjohnsonDethread, paulproteus, thanks bro06:55
sjohnsons06:55
sjohnsonwill give it a shot06:55
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bisleynobody have the same problem with apt-get update?damn..06:56
Dethreadgood luck06:57
danko123456bob2: ah, a versioning system?06:57
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bob2danko123456: yes06:57
danko123456a pretty advanced, robust, and such one?06:57
bob2yeah06:57
bob2it's pretty awesome06:57
bob2still crap in some ways, but we're fixing that06:57
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danko123456cool dstuff, so it really is a big thing...pretty cool, canonical is really trying to be right there in the heart of things.06:59
danko123456a lot of open source development tools, really.06:59
bob2yeah07:00
danko123456 It is somewhat well known, these days, that some of the core developers of the Linux kernel are using a revision control system which is not free software.    which one are they referring to?07:01
danielsbitkeeper07:01
danko123456yeah, hey?07:01
bob2which they're not using anymore07:01
danko123456thanks.07:01
danielsalthough they're not using that anymore because it blew up in their face07:01
danko123456oh, so not hey?07:01
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bob2which was a surprise for all concerned07:01
danko123456where is a thread you can read?07:01
bob2danko123456: that quote wasn't on the bazaar site was it?07:02
danko123456nope.07:02
danko123456that is the arch site.07:02
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bob2ah, ok07:02
miss_jadehey everyone!07:02
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danko123456well, bazaar says, I implement arch, so I am like...hm,...gotta read what arch is I guess...07:02
danko123456YO, miss_jade07:03
miss_jadehey danko07:03
miss_jadehow are u07:03
miss_jadewhere is everyone from?07:03
danko123456nice...07:03
danko123456Im in canada, from Croatia.07:03
bob2ah, yeah.07:03
miss_jadekool07:04
miss_jadeim from sydney australia...07:04
NulaI am from a village in the Afghanistan mountains.. we grow good plants for relaxation when hacking the linux kernel07:04
danko123456Sweet, a whole article with a sub headline What Went Wrong, AND What Next ON that bitkeeper thing.07:04
danko123456nice to meet you.07:04
danko123456nula means zero in my language07:04
Levande1bob2: they have a page saying how bazaar is different than subversion?07:05
Nulawhat language is that?07:05
danko123456scroll up just a little07:05
miss_jadeis there any other chat rooms?07:05
danko123456probably on your screen still07:05
NulaI see07:05
danko123456there is, this is a linux support channel,.07:05
danko123456said ther blind man...07:06
Nulamiss_jade what kind of chat?? tech related or socializing?07:06
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danko123456lol07:07
NulaI probably wouldn't hang around IRC for socializing... irc has become a techsupport/pirating chat network..07:07
bob2well, not really07:08
danko123456yeah, I mean, I come here to socialize.07:08
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Levande1bob2: there is a short version of the difference in design goals?07:08
choopwow i'm slow on the uptake. i'm in atlanta, georgia, usa07:08
danko123456 /join #fun07:08
danko123456or something...#keyword07:08
lifelessLevande1: bazaar is different from svn in the same good ways as 'arch', but not in the bad ways ;)07:09
concept10is there a ubuntu development channel?07:09
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Levande1lifeless: guess i would have to learn more about arch to figure out what that means...07:09
Levande1concept10: think it's #ubuntu-dev07:10
bob2Levande1: I guess the main difference is that arch internally works in terms of changes, not trees07:10
lifelessLevande1: heh. seen the bazaar homepage / arch wiki ?07:10
danko123456concept10: there are some devs here even, whats up?07:10
danko123456haha07:10
danko123456\Im awesome.07:10
bob2Levande1: but also that it doesn't really care which archive a branch is in, so you can branch from other people and store it locally07:10
concept10I want to contribute to some of the ubuntu goals07:11
g14concept10, /join #ubuntu-devel07:11
lifelessbob2: I think the big difference is bazaar understands 'branch' vs 'directory' whereas svn is willfully blind07:11
bob2hm..07:11
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Levande1bob2: like the way CVS is file-based vs. how svn is project based.  The CVS file-based would be similar to bazaar's change based?  And, the svn project based, I think I mean the same thing as what you mean when you say tree based.07:12
bitsmashhi07:12
bitsmashwhy do i have no root?07:12
bob2Levande1: how is svn project-based while cvs is not?07:12
Levande1bitsmash: there's some page in the ubuntu wiki that explain why sudo07:12
bob2bitsmash: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:12
bob2bitsmash: also, it was explained to you during the install07:12
bob2bitsmash: and it's in the FAQ07:12
bitsmashok07:12
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dr_willisis that the #1 thing on the Faq? :P07:13
pablo921maybe i had an advantage never having used linux before ubuntu, i didn't expect to have root.07:14
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Levande1bob2: when you do a log on a working copy directory in cvs, you get a comment for every file that has changed, even in the same comment.  Say you have one commit with one comment for a bunch of files.  With the cvs log for that commit, you getta comment for each file, even though all the comments are the same.  This is because cvs doesn't version the whole *tree* or directory.  Just individual files.  With svn, you only get the one commen07:15
Levande1ooh, sorry that was so long07:15
danko123456bob2: Worse, one of these efforts was inadvertandly funded by the OSDL, Linus Torvalds' place of employement.07:15
danko123456hehe, total flame wars.07:15
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Levande1bob2: it's not like i've got a real reason to switch from svn now anyway (or the time).  I'll keep on eye on you guys bazaar project now that I know about it.07:16
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danko123456seriously, awesome text.07:17
bob2Levande1: right, arch is like svn in that regard, it versions the whole tree07:17
bob2Levande1: all modern systems are07:17
Levande1Improvements in source code control is no small resource saver in the large projects I work with.07:17
bob2cvs and sccs are the onlye ones I know of in broad use that don't07:17
danko123456 It became the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.07:17
Levande1bob2: but really wish you guys would eventually do a page explaining the difference to guys like me07:18
bob2Levande1: that would be good07:18
Levande1thanks07:18
bob2I'll put it on my evergrowing todo07:18
danko123456i lseriously, such a proverbial straw...07:20
danko123456:)07:20
kakaltoguys, I have a problem - a package I have I can't compile due to the repositories not having some of the dev packages07:20
danko123456pastebin the error.07:20
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kakalto*a package I have = a source pakage07:20
JDahlkakalto, do you know apt-get build-dep?07:21
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kakaltoJDahl, that failed :(07:21
kakaltoone moment please07:21
knapjackAny ndiyo developers here?07:21
danko123456"we represent as open-source friendly a commercial organization as you are *ever* going to see"07:22
bob2larry mcvoy has a very unique POV07:22
danko123456oh yeah, Im ndiyoSL07:22
Levande1bob2: i'm not in a hurry to switch, so feel free to make it low priority on the todo for now07:22
bob2Levande1: heh, it is, unfortunately07:22
Levande1lol07:22
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knapjackI'm wondering, does ndiyo use VNC or ...???07:23
bob2Levande1: there's http://better-scm.berlios.de/, but it's unfortunately written by a svn developer07:23
danko123456bob2: so, is canonical a "commercial organization"?07:23
bob2so it's not the most unbiased thing ever07:23
unleashedgamers#leave07:23
bob2danko123456: canonical is a company, yes07:23
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lifelessdanko123456: no, we aim to lose money07:23
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danko123456check this out.07:23
evilmegamanHi, anyone here use the ati drivers? I was wondering why my fglrxinfo says that I am still using mesa3d..07:23
danko123456He pointed out that as a long-time open source fanatic and the CEO of BitMover, "we represent as open-source friendly a commercial organization as you are *ever* going to see", cautioning blah blah...07:24
scorpixfirefox 1.0.4 released :)07:24
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ys76Is there a problem with the bittorrent-tracker at the moment? I am unable to connect to it...07:24
kakaltoJDahl, I get "E: Build-dependencies for transcode could not be satisfied."07:24
bob2evilmegaman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:24
danko123456and OOo and version2...and stuff, just funny...07:24
bob2evilmegaman: follow those steps07:24
bob2kakalto: it's unbuildable atm, now I think of it07:24
danko123456ppl speak...07:24
evilmegamanthanks bob207:25
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kakaltobob2, which means I can't do anything about it?07:25
JDahlkakalto, you could patch it :P07:25
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kakaltoJDahl, meaning?07:25
dr_williskakalto,  yea - ive been keeping an eye on that lately also. :(07:25
bob2kakalto: sec07:25
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JDahlkakalto, fix it, I mean... an attempt at being funny07:26
kakaltoJDahl, very funny :P07:26
bob2kakalto: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/t/transcode/2:0.6.14-0.2ubuntu1/07:27
kakaltobob2, what's with the link?07:27
bob2it shows how it failed07:27
danko123456lifeless: you read: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4966 ?07:27
lifelessdanko123456: I think so. if its LM trolling, then yes07:28
Xeon3DHas anyone got Ubuntu64 installed on a DFI LanParty NF4 Ultra-D ?07:28
kakaltobob2, indeed...07:28
knapjackdanko123456: So, is the nivo software publicly available?07:28
bob2kakalto: ... so go get that package07:28
bob2kakalto: it's in marillat's repository07:29
kakaltoare you trying to be funny? there's 30 packages listed there07:29
danko123456knapjack: never heard of it, maybe google knows.07:29
bob2kakalto: ?07:29
knapjackdanko123456: So you were pulling my leg on the ndiyo developer thing?07:30
danko123456so, bob2, when did you announce bazaar?07:30
kakaltobob2, in the latest of those logs from that link you gave me, there was 30 ones listed as "missing"07:30
danko123456SL...:)07:30
bob2danko123456: hm, I think it was the end of last year07:30
bob2kakalto: libdivxencore007:30
danko123456really, even then, so a lot of development is done? Like I could install something on my computer?07:30
bob2sure07:31
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danko123456wow07:31
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bob2we've been using it since day 107:31
abarbacciahey all - anybody can recommend a wireless network card that was setup easily in ubuntu?  (not ndiswrapper - possibly nativly supported) 802-11g07:31
bob2it was a fork of gnu arch07:31
bob2abarbaccia: pcmcia or minipci?07:31
evilmegamanEverything seems fine yet my fglrxinfo STILL gives me mesa3d...07:31
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abarbacciapci07:31
bob2pci or minipci?07:32
abarbacciajust pci07:32
danko123456this is some recent article, real dumba$$ guy, wit that bitkeeper07:32
abarbacciaive never heard of minipci07:32
bob2find something using atheros or prism5407:32
bob2minipci is what laptops use for internal wireless nowadays07:32
abarbacciaoh, no - it's for my desktop - but prism54 chipset is the way to go?07:32
kakaltobob2, when I go to dpkg-buildpackage from the source of the package, it lists 20 dependancies not met07:32
danko123456bob2: can I put anything else in the apple?07:33
kakaltosome of these dependancies aren't available07:33
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bob2kakalto: ok07:33
choophow can i test the install cd i just burnt to verify integrity?07:33
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bob2choop: check the md5sum07:33
bob2choop: which you can do from within the installer, too07:33
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bob2danko123456: modern apple laptops can only use broadcom, unfortunately07:33
danko123456bob2: like, replace the extreme card? do you know at all?07:33
dr_willisHmm.. if i wanted to look at the source to say "ls" where would be the place to look. Lol. :P07:33
bob2dr_willis: find out what binary package it's in, using "dpkg -S /bin/ls".07:34
dr_willisgoogling is hitting way too many bad hits wrong sources.07:34
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evilmegamanDoes anyone here know how to fix the ati problem?07:34
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evilmegamanMY ati problem*07:34
choopi've checked the md5sum of the ISO file, but I'd like to test the CD itself07:34
danko123456evilmegaman: which ati problem?07:34
dr_willisbob2,  so thats in the 'coreutils' package then - ok. :P07:35
choopi've got knoppix up on my desktop (ircing from laptop)07:35
bob2dr_willis: then use "apt-get source coreutils" to get the source package07:35
bob2choop: no, check the md5sum of the cd07:35
dr_willisbob2,  COOL. :P07:35
jiyuu0is there something wrong witht ehe users mailinglist?07:35
bob2choop: md5sum /dev/cdrom or whatever07:35
kakalto"ok"07:35
jiyuu0cause i'm not getting any mails from it07:35
bob2jiyuu0: aside from people not reading the faq? ;)07:35
kakalto...07:35
bob2kakalto: I don't know what you want me to do07:35
choopokay, i think i'll get this whole process started tomorrow instead of staying up 'til three tonight.07:35
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choopthanks bob207:36
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kakaltoyou probably can't help anyway, but thanks for your help thus far, bob207:36
evilmegamanI have installed xorg-fglrx-driver or whatever and I have made sure my xorg.conf is good, yet I still get mesa3d in fglrxinfo...07:36
dr_willisbob2,  so.. hmm where did it put the source to? :P /usr/src/ ?07:36
bob2kakalto: presumably you didn't enable the multiverse and universe repositories07:36
bob2dr_willis: no, the dir you ran it in07:36
kakaltobob2, those are enabled07:36
bob2kakalto: (wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto)07:36
dr_willisbob2,  ok. Thats more logical i guess Lol :P07:36
bob2kakalto: I only have 2 missing build-deps07:37
bob2er, no07:37
danko123456lol...dbernar1@veliki:~/Desktop/b $ dpkg -i bazaar-dbg_1.3.2_i386.deb...dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege...why do I get this error;)07:37
bob2danko123456: sudo dpkg -i ...07:37
bob2danko123456: you can't install packages as a normal user07:37
kakaltobob2, I'm installing the deps one-by-one, I'll tell you when I have a problem07:38
Chipparni got problems installing mplayer via apt-get install mplayer-386. something about damage packages.07:38
evilmegaman(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work07:38
danko123456right, that is why it is funny, ppl ask questions like that where the error tells them right there....07:38
evilmegamanFound that in Xorg.0.log07:38
bob2evilmegaman: you compiled your own kernel?07:38
evilmegamannope07:38
bob2Chipparn: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:38
bob2evilmegaman: you're using hoary, right?07:38
evilmegamanyes :)07:39
bob2not breezy?07:39
bob2what does "uname -r" print out?07:39
evilmegamanlemme see bob207:39
evilmegaman2.6.10-5-38607:39
bob2well, they work for thousands of other people07:39
bob2I can't guess what's different about your machine07:40
kakaltobob2, libc6 isn't new enough07:40
evilmegaman*thinks*... I don't know :(07:40
kakaltolibxvidcore4 requires 2.3.2.ds1-4 apparently07:41
kakalto(of libc6)07:41
bob2then use the testing side of his archive07:41
kakaltohow do I do that?07:41
evilmegamanoooh07:42
evilmegamanThat binary howto thing tells me what to do07:42
evilmegamanshould I reinstall the linux-restricted-modules(uname -r) package?07:43
danko123456kakalto, are you talking about your apt-get?07:44
evilmegamanor do I need to get rid of linux-restricted-modules-386?07:44
evilmegaman@bob207:44
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kakaltodanko123456, I need to install libxvidcore4, which requires libc6 2.3.2.ds1-4, although I have libc6 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1307:45
kakaltojust force libxvidcore4 to install?07:45
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AgentSmithCidolfas: tar xvf <new_file>07:47
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danko123456kakalto: force? are you talking about apt-get?07:47
kakaltowell, yeah07:48
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danko123456pastebin it, please:)07:48
kakaltoI'm using synaptic, but I don't mind using console07:48
danko123456can you apt-get update? and apt-get package?07:48
abbot45Do any of you use Pan for Usenet Binaries?07:48
danko123456insert install^07:49
abarbacciaanybody can recommend a specific card that uses the prism54 chipset (wireless nics for PCI Desktop use)07:49
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danko123456yeah, one I just saw on google...07:49
kakaltodanko123456, where's a pastebin?07:49
danko123456.com07:49
kakalto?07:50
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kakaltodanko123456, what's an address of a pastebin?07:51
kakaltopastebin.com?07:51
kakaltoahhh07:51
danko123456give us the URL too.07:53
kakaltohttp://pastebin.com/28304007:53
kakaltoquite simply, the version in the repos is too old07:54
kakaltothen should I just get a libc6 new version deb from packages.debian.org ?07:54
danko123456what is that from?07:54
danko123456there is no $07:55
kakaltowoops07:55
kakaltoI missed a bit07:55
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kakaltothere07:56
kakaltodanko123456, try that again07:56
danko123456i got it;07:56
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danko123456kakalto, I can, this is my sources...:/07:57
danko123456a 64?07:57
kakaltodanko123456, should I simply get a new testing release of libc6 from packages.debian.org ?07:57
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kakaltoif you're referring to 64bit, no07:58
ali4728Help how can I download a "tar.gz" package to certain directory by using bash?07:58
danko123456kakalto, my sources... http://pastebin.com/283045 then, save, update, and install, if you want to, I have some breezy tehre, you can also try commenting that out at first to see if it works taht way...07:58
kakaltobreezy likely has the new version07:59
danko123456and backports, so, try commenting it out...or at least when you dist-upgrade, comment it out.07:59
MM2ali4728: try wget http://url07:59
danko123456I am hoary, thougn.08:00
danko123456try it, comment those two sources out.08:00
danko123456thats a proper one for that same package, I had it.08:00
danko123456Just apt-get update after, with sudo.08:01
danko123456its also a dev for a MPlayer compilation08:01
danko123456xI guess, I mean, thats prob why I had it.08:01
danko123456youre all sleeping.08:02
kakaltounless my local mirror hasn't updated the package of libc6 to the newest08:02
danko123456fr?08:02
ali4728<MM2>  awaiting response... 403 Forbidden ?08:02
kakaltodanko123456, nah, nz08:02
danko123456try the ones I gave you, I would have by now...08:02
kakaltoI'm downloading the lists08:03
kakaltoat the moment08:03
danko123456k, update?08:03
kakaltoyeah08:03
kakaltoit's just taking a little while08:03
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mdJakeHi!08:03
danko123456k, thats good, did you comment those two out?08:03
kakaltoyes08:03
danko123456yo, mdJake!08:03
mdJakeIs there a problem with Acrobat Reader? I couldn't manage to run it...08:04
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danko123456in Ubuntu?08:05
kakaltodanko123456, now I have a different problem08:05
mdJake"/usr/bin/acroread: line 12: /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread: No such file or directory."08:05
kakaltovery similar though08:05
mdJakein Ubuntu (Hoary)08:05
ali4728<MM2> Got it thanks08:05
danko123456pastebin URL?08:05
danko123456mdJake: Yeah, its LAME..08:06
mdJakedanko123456: sorry?08:06
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kakaltodanko123456, http://pastebin.com/28304708:06
mdJakepastebin /usr/bin/acroread: line 12: /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread:08:06
danko123456pastebin for kakalto...as an issue with acrobvat, its lame...08:06
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danko123456use xpdf, why would you ever use acrobat anything in Ubuntu?08:07
danko123456everything exports pdfs...08:07
mdJakedanko123456: what is pastebin?08:07
danko123456and, you can view them in x...08:07
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danko123456mdJake: I posted that for kakalto.08:07
danko123456try it out.08:07
danko123456pastebin.com08:08
mdJakeI'm browsing08:08
kakaltodanko123456, ?08:08
danko123456well, whats the URL?08:08
kakaltodanko123456, http://pastebin.com/28304708:08
danko123456a similar problem, how am I to know?08:08
mdJakedanko123456: what is this place pastebin.com?08:08
danko123456haha08:08
danko123456mdJake: I posted it for kakalto...08:08
danko123456thanks, kakalto, missed it..08:09
mdJakeand who is kakalto?08:09
kakaltomdJake, don't worry about pastebin.com :)08:09
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kakaltohehe08:09
mdJakeDanko, i see a post about transcode, not Acrobat08:09
mdJakehi kakalto08:09
kakaltomdJake, hey08:09
danko123456mdJake: man...08:10
mdJakedanko123456: yes?08:10
kakaltomdJake, that's because I'm trying to fix a problem with transcode :)08:10
danko123456dont worry about it, it was not posted for you at all, the pastebin was for kakalto, ghet it?08:10
mdJakedanko123456: oh get it!08:10
danko123456there is no problem with transcode, in fact...08:10
mdJakedanko123456: still I don't know what is pastebin.com...08:10
danko123456gedit?08:11
danko123456it is a place to paste, instead of pasting here.08:11
danko123456so I can see your screen.08:11
kakaltowell, transcode is the main problem, but libxvidcore4-dev is a seperate issue08:11
mdJakeah, get it - Im slow like a dinosaur08:11
mdJakedanko123456: how does it work?08:12
danko123456kakalto: and....08:12
kakaltolibxvidcore4-dev requires libxvidcore4 (a certain version), which requires libc6 (a certain version)\08:12
danko123456I figured you out, we hacve to ask though.08:12
danko123456or, RTFM...I think Ill try that first, I saw it there b4.08:12
danko123456man apt-egt08:12
danko123456I think.08:12
danko123456force a version, that is waht you are looking for, I guess.08:13
danko123456or maybe not.08:13
kakaltoI think the version(s) I require aren't available yet08:13
kakaltowhich is rather irritating08:14
kakaltoso I'll have to get those versions from packages.debian.org08:14
danko123456apt-cache search libxvidcore4 kakalto, and if there are results, pastebin it, and tell me the url, pls.08:14
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mdJakeah, pastebin.com rocks :) :)08:15
mdJakeso I shouldn't paste here anything?08:15
kakaltomdJake, pastebin.com is for large amounts of text that you shouldn't post here08:16
danko123456well, if you want to paste a large amount of text, yeah...08:16
kakaltoif you post lots of lines all at the same time here, you will get kicked :)08:16
danko123456in the arse...08:16
mdJakeno I don't wanna kicked08:16
mdJakeI behave08:16
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danko123456kick him...08:16
kakaltohehe08:16
danko123456lmao08:16
mdJakedanko123456: plz, I'll use xpdf :) :) dont kick08:17
danko123456ruight...you better 2...08:17
danko123456pdf is a etchnology.08:17
bwbyay for paste spamming08:17
bwbyay08:17
bwbyay08:17
danko123456sweet08:17
mdJakebut acrobat is under construction I hope...08:17
danko123456for what?08:17
danko123456You can get it...08:17
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danko123456now, but y???08:17
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kakaltodanko123456, I'm just updating, then I'll apt-cache search08:18
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danko123456you didnt update?08:18
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danko123456spam, pasting!!!yay08:18
bwbyay!08:18
danko123456lmao08:18
kakaltohttp://pastebin.com/28305208:18
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danko123456right...08:19
danko123456wednesday...08:19
kakaltoI was just updating back to my previous configuration of sources.list08:19
kakaltothursday...08:19
danko123456update, or search?08:19
kakaltoat the pastebin.com/283052, it's the search08:19
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ikhi08:21
danko123456kakalto: well, you didnt use m sources it seems...or you uncommented marillat..08:21
danko123456ik: YO08:21
iki just add an extra ard disk as slave and its no reconacing08:21
kakaltodanko123456, one moment please08:21
danko123456like what?08:21
danko123456ik: like what?08:21
danko123456where is it not recognizing, is  it mounted, is it in your /dev?08:22
kakaltodanko123456, http://pastebin.com/283055 <--- the output when I have marillat commented08:22
danko123456install08:22
ikdanko123456 like slave08:22
kakaltobut when I try to install libxvidcore4-dev it says libxvidcore4 isn't up-to-date enough08:23
nubiousHey would anyone know why I can't ssh into my clean ubuntu installation?  I ran sudo apt-get install ssh, and it worked and everything, but for some reason it's refusing my connection08:23
danko123456like slave, you never used this drive, hey?08:23
bob2nubious: did you install openssh-server?08:23
nubiousno I just install ssh08:23
nubiousit worked every other time I've done it this way08:23
nubiousi've reinstalled ubuntu like 5 times this week08:23
nubiousit's weird08:23
nubiousI have NO idea why it wont work08:23
ikdanko123456 yes its was in another machine08:23
dr_willisHm.. i had to install the openssh server.08:24
nubioushmm08:24
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nubiousI'll try that08:24
nubiousso whaT?08:24
nubioussudo apt-get install openssh ?08:24
bob216:23:24 @         bob2 | nubious: did you install openssh-server?08:24
bob2install that package08:24
nubiousahh ssh-server08:24
danko123456ik, you wanna mount it.08:24
danko123456ik, does it have a filesystem on it, or are you formatting it?08:24
ikdanko123456 i wanna see the files inside08:24
danko123456ok, so a ntfs?08:24
nubioussays it's already installed?08:24
nubious...08:24
ikntfs08:24
bob2nubious: then check if it's running08:25
nubiousI THOUGHT maybe it had to do with an old encryption key on my windows box08:25
benplautis there any package out there that can decompress .RAR?08:25
nubioushow do I check?08:25
bob2nubious: sudo netstat -plunt | grep ssh08:25
pablo921danko123456, i'm watching you and kakalto closely, i had the exact same problem trying to install dvdrip08:25
danko123456right, does it have more partitions, or just one?08:25
bob2benplaut: unrar, surprisingly08:25
ikdanko123456 its a ntfs08:25
danko123456pablo:)08:25
ikonly one08:25
nubiousnegative08:25
kakaltopablo921, have you found a solution yet?08:25
nubiousnothing showed up08:25
benplautbob2: the simplicity always suprises me...08:25
Rudibenplaut: unrar in multiverse08:25
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bob2nubious: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart08:25
ikdanko123456 only one ntfs08:25
danko123456kakalto: did you install after removing and updating08:26
danko123456??08:26
pablo921kakalto, no, that's why i'm hoping that you do08:26
kakaltodanko123456, what do you mean?08:26
danko123456ik, creat a dir, in a terminal, sudo mkdir /media/win08:26
ikok08:26
danko123456ik, then mount the hard, sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/win08:26
kakaltoI tried to install after I updated my sources.list to exclude marillat's08:26
mdJakebob2: what about sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart?08:26
bob2mdJake: same thing08:26
nubiousfailed08:26
ikok :)08:26
nubioussshd error08:27
kakaltobut the -dev package requires a certain version of the normal package08:27
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danko123456kakalto, did you get that error that you said up there after just updating, and commenting out marillat?08:27
nubiousmaybe reboot?08:27
mdJakebob2: I didn't know invoke_rc08:27
danko123456rigth.08:27
kakaltodanko123456, which error?08:27
danko123456k, sec.08:27
danko123456pastebin it.08:27
bob2nubious: no, how would a reboot help?08:27
bob2nubious: paste the error to #flood08:27
nubiouscant paste08:27
nubious<-- windows box08:27
nubiouslisten guys - I appreciate the help.. gf's waiting tho.. I gotta go08:27
nubiousI'll be back tomorrow08:28
danko123456ik, now, after that, if it did it with no errors, ls /media/win08:28
bob2lord08:28
nubiousthx tho08:28
nubiousbbt08:28
kakaltodanko123456, http://pastebin.com/28305708:28
ikdanko123456 bash: /dev/hdb1: Permission denied08:28
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danko123456ik, ugh, paste ls /dev to pastebin, please.08:29
ikdanko123456 the folder contains can not be display08:29
ali4728Help How is it possible to move all_files from one directory to another in one go?08:29
ikok08:29
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saulido anybody know how to make alsa and sounds work08:30
danko123456kakalto, clean install here, have you upgraded recently?08:30
bob2ali4728: sure08:30
bob2ali4728: mv blah/* fnord08:30
kakaltoupgraded? no08:30
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danko123456kakalto, pm.08:30
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ikdanko123456 its there in paste bin :)08:31
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ali4728<bob2> which is the dest directory08:31
kakaltoI'm getting excited, I might have found the solution08:31
kakaltodanko123456, pm?08:31
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bob2ali4728: the second one, as always08:31
ali4728<bob2> ok08:31
danko123456kakalto: nothing...08:31
pablo921kakalto, what is the solution? I'm also waiting.08:32
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kakaltopablo921, is your problem to do with libxvidcore4 aswell?08:32
kakalto'cause I just down-graded libxvidcore4 to an earlier version, and I can install libxvidcore4-dev now08:33
pablo921kakalto,exactly08:33
kakaltotry that?08:33
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pablo921it's also required for dvdrip08:33
pablo921or i should say that transcode is08:34
ikdanko123456 it say i dont have permision necesari to view /media/bin files08:34
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kakaltoOkay, I'm really annoyed now08:34
danko123456ls /dev, ik08:34
danko123456haha08:34
benplautcan i alien install VMware, or will i have to compile?08:34
danko123456:-p08:34
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kakaltoone of the dependancies to compile transcode, disables transcode08:34
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danko123456ik, and paste to pastebin, please.,08:35
danko123456http://pastebin.com08:35
bob2benplaut: you can't compile it08:35
bob2benplaut: you can alien the userspace portion, but you will need to build the kernel bits yourself08:36
ikdanko123456 its there in pastebieb08:36
ikpastebin08:36
danko123456iok, please give me the url...08:36
danko123456How come everyone thinks I know the URL?08:36
ikhttp://pastebin.com/28306108:36
kakaltoI originally thought you'd just go to pastebin.com and click on the recent post08:37
benplautbob2: difficult?08:37
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bob2benplaut: I don't know.  presumably the vmware company will help you if you have problems.08:37
benplauthmm08:37
danko123456ik, please type in "sudo mkdir /media/wnd" and press enter in a terminal, and taht should not say anything.08:37
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ikok08:38
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danko123456ik, after that, "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/wnd -t ntfs -o umask 022" and enetr08:38
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ikok08:39
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danko123456ok, then, and now for something completely different...08:39
dr_willisHmm. isent there a program that helps you 'draw' a map of your local lan. showing machines/ip's and other notes/info?08:39
dr_willisi cant recall its name08:39
pablo921 kakalto, have you given up?08:39
kakaltopablo921, nope08:39
kakaltopablo921, but I know it's gonna be messy08:39
ikdanko123456 it say usage08:39
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pablo921 kakalto, i figured that. that's why i still don't have dvdrip installed.08:40
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danko123456ik, please put it onto pastebin.08:40
ikok08:40
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danko123456pablo921, kakalto, on mine it is installed, not sure, why it is not on yours.08:41
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ikdanko123456 http://pastebin.com/28306208:41
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pablo921danko123456, i am getting the exact same error as kakalto.08:42
kakaltodanko123456, I can install transcode, the problem is that the default deb doesn't support avi transcoding08:42
pablo921kakalto, i can't even install transcode.08:44
kakaltookay, pablo921, have you tried the marillat repositories lately?08:45
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pablo921i was told a couple of days ago that they were down, but when i update i get no message08:46
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shad0w1eanyone have any clue why iwlist scan wlan0 -- would not be coming up with any results, but when I boot to another copy of linux, it does?08:46
kakaltopablo921, I managed to get them today.08:47
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pablo921kakalto, i just updated and nothing08:47
kakaltopablo921, unlucky08:47
pablo921kakalto,yes,i guess so08:48
shad0w1eanyone know why my linux installation would not be able to find a wireless network?08:48
pablo921kakalto, fortunately i don't really have a urgent need for the app08:48
kakaltopablo921, good luck, you're gonna need it08:48
kakaltoyeh08:48
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pablo921kakalto, thanks, you too08:49
kakaltothanks :)08:49
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shad0w1ecould someone maybe give me some tips on getting my wireless adapter working?08:50
dr_willisWireless networks are the next 'winmodem' fiasco :(08:51
ermanoxok I will give it a go DR08:51
dr_williswell wireless cards are. at least. :(08:51
shad0w1elinux picks up the card just fine, but when I do a scan, it says no networks found08:51
danko123456is yuor router setup accordign to the wiki?08:51
shad0w1ebut when I boot to my old installation of linux, it finds it just fine08:51
jsgotangcowhat card is this?08:51
shad0w1eits the microsoft mn-720 using ndiswrapper08:52
dr_willishmm. I always make my networks/router keep quiet so it isent seen by a scan.. i just enter the #'s and stuff manually08:52
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shad0w1eohh well I have broadcast on...08:52
[Chameleon] dr_willis: the "winmodem" aspect of WiFi cards can usually be handled well by ndiswrapper.08:52
shad0w1ewhy would that happen?08:52
shad0w1ewhen I boot off the other drive it find the network just fine08:53
dr_willis[Chameleon] ,  yea.  thats a good thing at least...08:53
[Chameleon] dr_willis: yeah, works well on my wife's FC3 laptop08:53
dr_willisstill not as good as native driver support i guess. :(08:53
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shad0w1ecmon guys, any guesses?08:53
dr_willisbut some tmes ya just got to get the wifes pc working!08:53
dr_willisshad0w1e,  what is the other disrto you are running that works?08:54
shad0w1esame one08:54
dr_willishuh?08:54
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shad0w1ehoary hedgehog08:54
dr_willisyou got identical ubuntus installed twice?08:54
danko123456did you reboot, or anything, after you switched?08:54
shad0w1ethe original one was warty upgraded to hoary08:54
shad0w1ethis one is plain hoary08:54
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ikdanko123456 did u get my pastebin?08:55
shad0w1ethey also might be different versions of ndiswrapper08:55
danko123456ik, yeah, it should mount...08:55
danko123456you sure the drive is ok?08:55
shad0w1ewell, what kind of tests can I do on the card to make sure its working right?08:55
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ikdanko123456 yes but i cant see the files, it say no permision to view them08:55
shad0w1eoh and the new installation is using LILO boot, not GRUB08:56
danko123456so, it mounts?08:56
ikyes08:56
[Chameleon] dr_willis: native drivers are always preferred08:56
danko123456oh, ok then, shouldve said so.08:56
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danko123456well, hm.. sudo ls /media/wnd08:56
ikok08:56
ikbut not there08:57
danko123456then it is not mounte,08:57
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ikits in the /media/win08:57
danko123456ok...08:58
danko123456:)08:58
ik:)08:58
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ikbut i cant see the files08:58
danko123456hah, then they are not there?08:58
ikls: /media/win: Permission denied08:58
danko123456sudo?08:58
danko123456:/08:59
danko123456:\08:59
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ikuio@sos-dhcp081:~ $ sudo ls: /media/win: Permission denied08:59
iksudo: ls:: command not found08:59
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ryani seem to have come across and odd problem08:59
ryanmy synaptic entry in the administration menu has just vanished08:59
ram_einsteinhey, I just install Ubuntu 5.04. I want to know how to set up my PPPoE ADSL connection. It uses eth009:00
ikAUTOEXEC.BAT            hiberfil.sys  ntldr                      WINDOWS09:00
ikboot.ini                IO.SYS        pagefile.sys09:00
ikCONFIG.SYS              MSDOS.SYS     Program Files09:00
ryanwell, a couple hours ago now i'd say09:00
ryani've been trying to figure out a way to get it back for some time09:00
kakaltoram_einstein, have you seen www.ubuntuguide.org ?09:00
danko123456i, thats it, but pastebin works better, you can see easier.09:00
ram_einsteinno kakalto, I will. Thanks09:00
sir-goldcould somone look at my xorg.conf and tell me why dual-head big desktop isn't working right?09:00
kakaltos' alright09:00
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danko123456ram, I know exactly how:)09:00
ryani've tried getting menu editors, tried removing syanptic and purging and reinstalling it, reload the gnome panel and still nothing :<09:00
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ram_einsteincould you tell me danko123456?09:01
danko123456ram_einstein: right... pppoeconf, I suppose you know your password and that?09:01
danko123456its a nice ncurses GUI.09:01
ikdanko123456 http://pastebin.com/28306809:01
ram_einsteinyes danko12345609:01
glassorhi all, how do i install divx and xvid codecs.... apt-get install ?????09:01
danko123456ik, how about, ls /media/win ??09:02
ram_einsteinjust run pppoeconf from terminal eh? Thanks danko123456!09:02
ikok09:02
metalsandHave you checked restricted formats?09:02
shad0w1eiwlist scan returns the error on wlan0: no scan results09:02
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danko123456eh?09:02
danko123456:)09:02
shad0w1eglassor: they're already there09:02
danko123456if not, do a sudo chown $USER /media/win09:02
ikdanko123456 http://pastebin.com/283068 thats /media/win09:02
sir-goldmetalsand, did you ever get that wireless card working?09:02
ram_einsteinI'll start Ubuntu and chat from there thanks danko12345609:02
metalsandYes, sir-gold ;)09:03
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danko123456without sudo.09:03
glassortotem writes me that it doesn't have the codec09:03
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metalsandAs I was researching gentoo09:03
shad0w1ecmon could someone help me with MY wireless card?09:03
danko123456try without.09:03
metalsandand everyone had no idea, I got it working.09:03
sir-goldmetalsand, how?09:03
danko123456he says eh?>09:03
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danko123456:)09:03
ikdanko123456 do i have to change as a root to see the filez?09:04
metalsandthe tx-power was set to some rediculously high level, and I noticed some errors in dmesg about tx power... So, I set it to the 23 dbm... Took the card out, restarted09:04
IIIEarsglassor - grab libdvdcss-#.#.deb09:04
metalsandmade sure all my files were correct, and I noticed a solid LED, I got my IP from DHCP... and... I'm connected ;)09:04
bob2so the problem was with the card09:04
sir-goldtx power was keeping it from showing up as wlan0?09:05
danko123456ik, does just ls /media/win work, or not, without sudo, taht is...09:05
metalsandThe card worked in windows... For some reason in Linux the default tx-power was retarded.09:05
IIIEarsI was wondering if i can back up a dvd and play it from the hard drive? - can you point me to the utility or application?09:05
metalsandNo, sir-gold... HostAP drivers didn't show it, I deleted all that and started anew with wlan-ng drivers.09:05
glassorgrab - command not found09:05
danko123456what, metalsand?09:06
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danko123456you are installed?09:06
ryandoes someone know where the system menu is read from?09:06
IIIEarslol09:06
danko123456like, your wireless?09:06
ikdanko123456 ls: /media/win: Permission denied09:06
metalsandIt was showing up as wlan0, but with a tx power of something like 2439 dBm09:06
danko123456weird, then do that command that I typed out above,09:06
danko123456sudo chown $USER /media/win09:06
bob2er, no09:06
ikok09:06
bob2mount it properly09:07
danko123456metalsand: so yuo are saying your wireless works?09:07
bob2mount -o umask=002 ...09:07
metalsandYes, danko12345609:07
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danko123456wow!09:07
danko123456:)09:07
metalsandYeah, and now I'm happily situated with Ubuntu.09:07
metalsandI'm glad it worked out09:07
Nulamount -o umask=009:07
metalsandGentoo would have been a nice experience to try, but I like Ubuntu.09:07
danko123456so, uh, does your laptop go to sleep when you close it?09:07
Nulaif you want NTFS to be normal user readable09:07
danko123456nula says zero...09:08
danko123456I mounted it wrong:(09:08
danko123456bah.09:08
Nulathen remount it09:08
kakaltoso close!09:08
ikso its posible to fix that?09:08
kakaltoand yet so far...09:08
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danko123456sudo umount /media/win09:08
metalsandik, have you tried this? http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs09:08
danko123456yours is b.09:09
danko123456hdb, that is.09:09
metalsandHey bob209:09
metalsandWhen I start I get a ror: fail09:09
Nula/dev/hda#       /media/win      ntfs            umask=0                 0      0    .. add this to your /etc/fstab .. do a mkdir /media/win before though09:09
metalsandAny idea what that is?09:09
danko123456hdb109:10
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Nula# corresponds to partition number of your windows installation, eg hda1, hda2 etc09:10
danko123456hdb109:10
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iksudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/wnd mount -o umask=0? like this is ok?09:11
IIIEars<< located tools to recover deleted partitions "testdisk" and "smartlinux"09:11
Nulaik, yes09:11
ikok :)09:11
Nulawell09:11
Nulaexcept the secon mount09:11
Nulasudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/wnd -o umask=009:12
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ikok09:12
bob2metalsand: when you start what?09:12
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metalsandUbuntu09:12
metalsandHold on, I'll get the exact message09:12
danko123456ik, like they said, eventually you willl want it to automount, so add to fstab09:12
metalsandUncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel09:12
metalsandStarting Ubuntu...09:12
ikok09:12
danko123456haha09:12
danko123456like the name resolution?09:13
danko123456temp error in name resolution...09:13
metalsandYeah09:13
danko123456ror...09:13
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metalsandWeird09:13
ikNula mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/wnd busy09:13
ikmount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /media/win09:13
bob2metalsand: you haven't shown us the error yet09:13
metalsandThat time it went through without errors, but you know what I'm talking bout dano?09:13
danko123456your network isnt loaded at that point.09:13
benplautis it weird to join a channel just to say goodnight?09:13
metalsanddank*09:13
danko123456dano is fine, Im dan.":)09:14
Nulaik, sudo umount /media/wnd09:14
ikok09:14
Nulaik, sudo unmount /media/wnd09:14
metalsandAh. I'm Ryan. :P09:14
danko123456sudo umount /media/win09:14
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Nulaheh09:14
metalsandYou can call me Little King09:14
NulaI was right the first time09:14
metalsand(That's what it means in Irish) ;)09:14
AvvYwhats with Firefox only installing version 1.0.2 when you run the apt-get upgrade command? Why doesn't it install 1.0.3 or the newer 1.0.4?09:14
danko123456or, big prince?hey?09:14
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danko123456cause youre greedy:)09:15
bob2AvvY: er, because hoary is stable09:15
g14AvvY, Ubuntu backports all security fixes from 1.03 and 1.04 into 1.0209:15
bob2AvvY: that means it doesn't change09:15
AvvYOh really?09:15
g14AvvY, 1.03 and 1.04 are the same with security fixes applied09:15
IIIEarsbob2 - nice09:15
g14AvvY, yes09:15
ikNula your the best :DDDD now i see the filez :)))) thanks a lot :))09:16
AvvYso the 1.0.2 update i just installed has the 1.0.3 and 1.0.4 security fixes?09:16
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bob2AvvY: probably09:16
Nulaik, welcome :)!09:16
ik:)09:16
danko123456they are read only...09:16
Nulaik, you know if you restart you will have to remount it right?09:16
Nulathat's why I said add it to fstab09:17
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ram_einsteinah! my interent connection is now up on Ubuntu09:17
ikNula oh ok thankyou i do it then09:17
metalsandWhat's nerim.net?09:17
metalsandOutside repostries for Ubuntu?09:17
Nulamplayer repositories09:17
Nulafrom debian mplayer maintainer09:18
IIIEarsWelcome ram_einstien :)09:18
ram_einsteinhow do I mount another Linux disk the safe way?09:18
HrdwrBoBhe makes mplayer with stupid default09:18
HrdwrBoBs09:18
ram_einstein:) IIIEars09:18
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g14AvvY, Try less /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/changelog.Debian.gz That will show you which security updates have been applied09:18
Nulaand the gayest default skin too09:18
HrdwrBoBonce you've installed it - change vo=x11 to vo=xv in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf09:18
HrdwrBoBNula: that's not so much of a problem though09:18
Nulamplayer needs to get gtk2.x face lift09:18
BurgundaviaNula, please watch your language09:18
ram_einsteinI know how to edit fstab but I don't want to...09:19
Nulaor some better interface.. it's very unorganized compared to totem09:19
ram_einsteinI don't want to screw anything up09:19
HrdwrBoBNula: no-one uses the mplayer gui09:19
danko123456ram_einstein: you wont, you can also mount it with mount.09:19
IIIEarsCan i use Totem to record a DVD to hard disk?09:19
NulaHrdwrBoB, true.. even though it's the best video player imho, I don't use it because it lacks the gui09:19
HrdwrBoBIIIEars: no09:19
ram_einsteinmount /dev/hda0 will do?09:20
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ram_einsteinit's a Fedora core 3 disk09:20
ram_einsteinwith lvm09:20
HrdwrBoBNula: mplayer's primary problem is distributability; ie, you can't.09:20
IIIEarsHrdwrBoB - What app shoul i use?09:20
Nuladoesn't xine suffer the same problem?09:20
g14IIIEars, try thoggen09:20
Nulaand xinelib in general09:20
HrdwrBoBIIIEars: dvdrip will do it09:20
IIIEarsGreat! - Thank You.09:20
HrdwrBoBNula: less so than mplayer09:20
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: you need to access the LVM device09:20
BurgundaviaIIIEars, dvdrip is uglier, but faster09:21
BurgundaviaIIIEars, thoggen is nice, but very alpha right now09:21
ram_einsteinyes [Chameleon] 09:21
IIIEarsFast is good. :)09:21
NulaHrdwrBoB, howcome?? you are telling me xine isn't stepping on any patents?09:21
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Nulaand still able to play all these formats?09:21
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: something like /dev/mapper/Volume00-LogVol0009:21
HrdwrBoBNula: mplayer is barely licensed09:21
HrdwrBoBat all09:21
Nulahmm09:21
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ram_einsteinsomething like that [Chameleon] 09:21
danko123456ram_einstein: you have to moutn to somewhere, as well, somethign to somewhere, but yes, I think it should do it.09:21
g14Burgundavia, Yes it's alpha, but I haven't had any problems with it. Have you?09:21
kakaltoCould someone help? I need the package "libavcodeccvs-dev"?09:21
kakaltoI can't find it anywhere09:21
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Burgundaviag14, slow and choppy output09:21
HrdwrBoBNula: it's stupidly ridiculously complicated09:22
sir-goldcould somone look at my xorg.conf and tell me why dual-head big desktop isn't working right?09:22
ram_einsteinyeah danko123456, I'll take care of that. /mnt/fedoradisk or something09:22
danko123456right09:22
NulaHrdwrBoB, it's sad :( software patents are a problem in many cases09:22
danko123456k, I think I am too tired to be of use...09:22
g14Burgundavia, On my AMD64 I've never had any problems with it09:22
danko123456ram_einstein: you like pppoeconf now, right?09:23
sir-goldwww.pastebin.com/28306709:23
danko123456its a nice program.eh?09:23
Burgundaviag14, hmm, is very nice interface though09:23
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: `sudo lvm lvs`  should give you a good idea09:23
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ram_einsteinyes danko123456 but I thought Fedora was better09:23
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ram_einsteinokay [Chameleon]  thanks09:23
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: np09:23
kakaltonever mind guys, I found it... along with some dependancy issues09:23
g14Burgundavia, they made a dvd ripper with gnome hig love. Very nice project09:23
=== [Chameleon] sure is being helpful... not bad for only running Ubuntu for 2 days now.
[Chameleon] :)09:24
Burgundaviag14, yes, hopefully it will become part of the default09:24
metalsandAre the backports useful to have?09:24
metalsandOr is there any danger?09:24
ram_einsteinthere's a logvol00 and a logvol01... logvol01 is probably swap?09:25
Burgundaviametalsand, backports break upgrades09:25
g14metalsand, the general consensus (from what I've heard) seems to be that backports are evil09:25
metalsandGreat09:25
Burgundaviawhat specific one do you need09:26
metalsandI don't specifically need antyhing09:26
ram_einstein:) [Chameleon]  that's nice. Running ubuntu for 2 days...09:26
metalsandWhat's on the backports?09:26
Burgundaviaif you don't need/want things from a non-ubuntu source, don't get it09:26
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: yeah, I ran Red Hat since 7.1 and all the way through to FC3 until I screwed up my LVM a couple days ago by accidentally running fsck on my mounted / filesystem.09:27
g14[Chameleon] , ouch09:27
kakalto>.<09:27
ram_einstein><09:27
ram_einsteinI love FC309:27
kakaltoI don't >_>09:28
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[Chameleon] ram_einstein: I meant to run it on a Neuros music player connected via USB, but I was tired and screwed up.09:28
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[Chameleon] fortunately, Ubuntu found my partitions on install and I didn't lose my data.09:28
[Chameleon] Yay for Ubuntu!09:28
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: I enjoyed FC3 while I ran it, too. But I'm digging Ubuntu09:29
g14I still bluecurve-ify the icons because human is an ugly theme09:29
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g14But ubuntu is a better distro09:29
ram_einsteinusb sticks don't work too well here09:29
[Chameleon] it's certainly different09:29
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: this is more than a USB stick09:29
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g14BSD init scares me09:29
veritasHow can I see my nick in IRSSI? :x09:30
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: It's a Digital Audio Computer that talk USB Storage09:30
g14SysVInit is so much better09:30
ram_einsteingl4 there's no such thing as better. Fedora is more evolved I feel09:30
ram_einsteinscrewed [Chameleon] 09:30
veritasg14.. It isn't illegal to dump data in the US is it?09:30
g14ram_einstein, FC3 has some really nice stuff like selinux and udev but ubuntu has more polish09:31
ram_einsteinmount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or fedoradisk/ busy09:31
ram_einsteinThats what I mean by screwed up09:31
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ram_einsteinI umounted it but still..09:31
g14little stuff like a pretty xscreensaver lock dialog really matter to newbie computer users (Like the machine I set up for my parents)09:31
benplautgoodnight everyone!09:31
Seveasg14, ubuntu has udev too...09:31
ram_einsteingl4, don't kid me! Fedora has everything09:31
quadlinegood morning09:31
benplauthawaii...09:32
Burgundaviaram_einstein, to be honest, ubuntu has more the in repos, due to its Debian heritage09:32
ram_einsteinFedora has anaconda which I prefer over the debian installer09:32
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: unmount /dev/hda2 and remount the LVM devices09:32
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: FC3 is prettier.09:32
ram_einsteinprobably Burgundavia I wouldn't know09:32
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: but looks aren't everything.09:32
ram_einsteinumount: /dev/hda2: not mounted09:33
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IIIEarsFC3 - isn't for everyone. - lol09:33
[Chameleon] is fedoradisk/ busy?09:33
SeveasFC3 is quite crappy compared to ubuntu imho09:33
ram_einstein[Chameleon] , not at all. Fedora has the ultimate power09:33
[Chameleon] on FC3 I had to install apt for rpm to get what I wanted.09:33
g14[Chameleon] , FC3 is an older version of gnome. You can get the bluecurve icons for ubuntu really easily09:33
ram_einsteinyour opinion not taken Seveas09:33
[Chameleon] g14: yeah, I know.09:33
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[Chameleon] g14: I kind of dig the default theme. It's different09:34
ram_einsteingl4, FC4 is out on June 6th09:34
ram_einsteinwhat do you expect from FC3?09:34
[Chameleon] yep09:34
g14Seveas, not trying to start a flamewar. What makes fedora "crappy"09:34
[Chameleon] I almost waited for FC409:34
[Chameleon] but I couldn't09:34
ram_einsteinyeah?09:34
[Chameleon] I'll probably put FC4 on some other machines here at home09:34
IIIEarsgorrilla_ - nice corner. (smells gorilla breath and offers a mint,)09:34
[Chameleon] like my wife's... Unless she's switched to Ubuntu by then. :)09:35
Seveasg14, well, this might be due to sysadmins at my work, but it was a complete mess when i tried it09:35
kakaltoI thought fedora was too much of "every-package-that-can-be-installed-is-installed" feeling09:35
ram_einsteinFC4T3 out yesterday... you might want to try it09:35
[Chameleon] The only thing I don't like about Ubuntu is the lack of software in the base install.09:35
[Chameleon] but, that's easily overcome.09:35
ram_einsteinkakalto, not at all..09:35
g14Seveas, it was probably the admins at work. Serverside, I think redhat is better than debian, much more so09:35
kakaltoubuntu gives me a feeling of "most-packages-I-need-are-installed-but-not-all-packages"09:35
gorilla_IIIEars: :-)09:35
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[Chameleon] kakalto: heh, funny that I feel almost opposite.09:35
ram_einstein[Chameleon] , like what and how is it overcome?09:35
Seveasram_einstein, if you prefer FC, why are you here? (honest question, no flamebait)09:35
[Chameleon] different strokes for different folks.09:36
IIIEarsChameleon - that is a plus - make Ubuntu what you want it to be. 0ne disk install! :)09:36
kakaltoIMHO, fedora was too bloaty09:36
ram_einsteinSeveas, I wanted to try Debian!09:36
Seveasram_einstein, good call to try ubuntu then :)09:36
ram_einsteinkakalto, nah... 4 cds is nothing09:36
[Chameleon] IIIEars: I do agree with the 1 disc install09:36
[Chameleon] not sure it's easier09:36
[Chameleon] what about off-line installs09:36
rymanfinally I got my ubuntu customized , it looks pretty sweet now ... This will make my gf change from xp to ubuntu09:36
Seveasram_einstein, if you're in for experimenting try debian sarge too when it's released09:36
[Chameleon] like at an install fest?09:36
kakaltoram_einstein, I suppose I'm just used to things like ubuntu and gentoo, where you have 1 cd09:36
[Chameleon] can't always get internet09:36
ram_einsteinSeveas, someone on #debian resommended strongly that I try it09:36
g14IMHO, fc is a bit bloaty but making it a 1 cd install only took me a few hours09:36
ram_einsteinSeveas, I have it already.... I can'09:37
[Chameleon] FC is a bit bloated.09:37
Seveasa *bit*?09:37
ram_einsteinI can't figure out a damn thing09:37
[Chameleon] but it's good for many.09:37
[Chameleon] just like Ubuntu is good for many09:37
[Chameleon] we CAN all peacefully coexist09:37
sir-golddebian is a linux users distro09:37
ram_einsteinI like the 4cds09:37
kakaltohehe09:37
Seveasram_einstein, that's because FC uses crap like service blabla update and othe incompatible stuff09:37
g14Seveas, Well you have ubuntu, kubuntu, xbuntu, etc, etc. fedora has that on the same install set09:38
sir-goldubuntu is a beginners distro09:38
Seveasram_einstein, and let's not get started on glibc incompatibility :S09:38
ram_einsteinSeveas, you don't know fedora09:38
Seveasram_einstein, i do know fedora09:38
Seveasi have to work with it09:38
ram_einsteindon't give me nonsense09:38
g14Seveas, personally, I think debian is crap. Ubuntu is the first usable debian distro in my opinion09:38
ram_einsteinyes sir-gold that's why I went for it instead of Sarge09:38
Seveasg14, my opinion too actually :)09:38
gorilla_ram_einstein, I have laso been bitten by libc problems....09:38
ram_einsteinnever happened09:39
ram_einstein*happened to me09:39
IIIEarshm - "xbuntu" - back to google.09:39
Seveasram_einstein, FC and redhat always introduce incompatible patches to things like linc, gcc, kernel etc...09:39
ram_einsteinnah...09:39
Seveasi've been bitten by that dozens of times09:39
g14IIIEars, it is ubuntu without gnome and with xfce4 instead09:39
ram_einsteinif you know what to pick, nothing is incompatible09:39
Seveasram_einstein, just download the srpm and see09:39
[Chameleon] gorilla_: hey, didn't you used to hang out in #linuxtalk?09:39
g14Seveas, incompatible as in what?09:39
Seveasram_einstein, that's nonsense09:39
hannibalwhich kernel is ubuntu using?09:40
Seveasg14, incompatible as in binary incompatibility09:40
ram_einsteinI've never has problems! I downloaded so much09:40
IIIEarsThat sounds great! - It would run faster on older hardware?09:40
sir-gold2.6.1009:40
Seveasram_einstein, it's a programmers hell09:40
hannibalthanks :)09:40
Seveasif you download for FC, it'll work on FC09:40
ram_einsteinwhere can I see what is mounted where presently? mtab doesn't list all?09:40
g14Seveas, yes but it also is good for speed and security09:40
[Chameleon] anybody in here got ATI binary drivers working and accelerating 3D on AMD64?09:40
Seveasg14, not really...09:40
[Chameleon] SysInfo: Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic |  AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ 2210.117 MHz | Bogomips: 4374.52 | Mem: 599/999M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 19.62G Free: 8.72G | Procs: 104 | Uptime: 1 day 2 hrs 31 mins 8 secs  | Load: 3.07 2.97 1.99  | Vpenis: Buffer Overflow! | Screen: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]  (rev 01) @ 1280x1024 (24 bpp) | eth1: In: 14.59G Out: 585.16M09:40
SeveasFC3 is quite insecure09:40
IIIEarssome poor guy was trying to install Ubuntu on a system with 16megs of ram last night.09:41
Seveasomg...09:41
[Chameleon] heh09:41
ram_einsteinSeveas, KDevelop is the MOST EVOLVED Development environment09:41
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sauliwarning dont install 2.6.10 because after that you cant type anything09:41
g14ram_einstein, actually it is eclipse09:41
Seveasram_einstein, that has nothing to do with this09:41
[Chameleon] sauli: uhh, I'm on 2.6.1009:41
Seveasand indeed, g14 is right :)09:41
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ram_einsteinyeah Seveas... KDE09:41
[Chameleon] Seveas: l8r09:41
sir-goldhoary is 2.6.10 by default09:41
g14later Seveas09:41
bassMonkey;P09:41
ram_einsteingl4, yeah, just adapted by KDE09:42
g14Seveas, We will talk later09:42
[Chameleon] sauli: and you are on 2.6.10 as well09:42
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[Chameleon] :)09:42
ram_einsteinwhere can I see what is mounted where presently? mtab doesn't list all?09:42
metalsandg14: What use does Etheral have that kismet can't do?09:42
g14ram_einstein, I know about kdevelop. It is awesome. Ecliplse with c and C++ plugins is just better09:42
sauliI try it and after that not possible type nothing09:42
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: type mount09:42
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: with no parameters09:42
g14metalsand, it has a gui09:42
sir-goldi tried the 2.6.11 from debian, and it made the whole pc lock up when i downloaded anything using konqueror09:42
[Chameleon] anybody in here got ATI binary drivers working and accelerating 3D on AMD64?09:43
metalsandg14: Do you use kismet for anything other than dumping?09:43
ram_einsteinthnaks [Chameleon] !09:43
g14metalsand, still working on hacking some wireless?09:43
[Chameleon] ram_einstein: yeah09:43
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ram_einstein/dev/hdb2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)09:43
g14metalsand, yes I actually use it for monitoring networks just like I use tcpdump09:43
ram_einsteinhow do I mount it here then?09:43
metalsandg14: just getting acquainted with different software09:43
ram_einsteincan't?09:43
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ryani see to have an odd problem on my hands, my synaptic entry in the administration menu has just vanished for no apparent reason. anyone know where i need to remake the entry so i have it back? i've been digging forever with no success :/09:43
metalsandg14: I thought the primary purpose of Ethereal was to monitor networks in real time through dumped files?09:44
ram_einstein[Chameleon] , it just outputs mtab...09:44
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g14metalsand, or to monitor saved network dumps09:44
g14metalsand, ethereal is great for debugging network failures or network forensics09:45
sir-goldis threre no menu editor for gnome?09:45
metalsandg14: better than kismet?09:45
ram_einsteincan I get KDE 3.4 for ubuntu? using some apt-get or something?09:45
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[Chameleon] sir-gold: not any more09:45
sir-goldram_einstein, kubuntu-desktop09:45
g14metalsand, gui vs tui. I prefer kismet and other tools like hunt or dsniff09:45
[Chameleon] sir-gold: I almost made one a while back, but I gave up09:46
sir-goldram_einstein, that will give you kde and a bunch of kde apps09:46
g14what about the menueditor on the ubuntu forums?09:46
g14Not smeg, but the other one09:46
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g14works ok for me09:46
metalsandg14: and you use weplab... Does it function in real time pdumping?09:46
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ryannevermind09:46
ram_einsteinsir-gold, not installed by default?09:47
sir-goldkde has a very nice integrated menu editor...09:47
g14metalsand, I normally stop kismet and then run weplab but thats just me09:47
IIIEarsryan - stick around we would love to help you.09:47
ryan3 hours later i finally manage to figure out that something in my .local/share folder was causing the disappearance of my synaptic entry09:47
ryanthanks anyway09:47
sir-goldram, if you want kde by default, use a kubuntu cd instead09:47
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metalsandg14: Do you believe weplab to have use the most modern time effecient WEP cracking techniques?09:47
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ram_einsteinubuntu cd comeswith gnome eh?09:48
sir-goldi don't know if gnome is on the cd itself, but ubuntu sets up gnome09:48
sir-goldkubutu sets up kde09:48
g14metalsand, I have used airsnort and weplab. With airsnort, it will crack sniffed packets in realtime but I think weplab is fastest for me09:49
sir-goldthats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu09:49
ram_einstein"system is up to date it says", I have ooo 1.1.3 and kernel 2.6.1009:50
g14ram_einstein, Kernel security stuff is backported09:50
IIIEarssir-gold - "KDE" and the Konquerer web browser09:50
g14ram_einstein, OO.o isn't even stable yet09:50
metalsandWhat's 00 :x09:50
IIIEarsthere is also "Xbuntu" with XFCE09:51
ram_einsteinwhat!? ooo 1.1.4 is very stable as far as I know gl409:51
ram_einsteinopenoffice.org09:51
ram_einsteinit's an office suite metalsand09:51
metalsandHrm09:51
metalsandWell, I'm heading to bed09:51
ram_einsteinlike Migrozoft Offize09:51
metalsandAP Economics test in 5 hours09:51
metalsandAdios.09:51
sir-goldOO.o is somehow related to staroffice, if you have heard of that09:51
g14ram_einstein, I meant OO.o 209:52
ram_einsteinyeah thats beta09:52
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ram_einsteinyeah sir-gold, staroffice is the pay version09:53
ram_einsteinnot the same company though09:53
Lob2kGuerin: could it possibly be under hda2?09:54
Seveasstaroffice is based on OOo09:54
Seveasand sun (the ones that sel staroffice) is the main sponser of OOo09:54
ram_einsteinyes Seveas09:54
ram_einsteinooo is free and really nice though09:54
Seveasindeed09:55
Seveasbut i like Abiword :)09:55
Seveasor better: vim & LaTeX09:55
transgressanyone have a wireless webcam?  i'm trying to work on a convenient way to set up a motion sensor webcam on viewing my front porch09:55
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transgressbut my room is across the house09:55
ram_einsteinSeveas, :)09:55
g14transgress, I have set this up for a friend and it works well for something like what you want: http://www.zoneminder.com/09:56
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geoffroy__hello dudes09:56
sir-goldcould somone look at my xorg.conf and tell me why dual-head big desktop isn't working right?09:56
sir-goldwww.pastebin.com/28306709:56
geoffroy__does anyone know if i can play mp3 shared by samba with xmms or other media player ?09:57
transgressthanks g1409:57
g14np09:57
Seveasgeoffroy__, sure you can09:57
geoffroy__oh ?09:57
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geoffroy__I remember, with warty I could do that without changing anything09:58
geoffroy__and I can't anymore with hoary09:58
g14transgress, when you get it working, put a howto in the fourms09:58
g14*forums09:58
Seveasbut if your mp3 player does not understand gnome-vfs you will have to mount the samba share instead of dragging mp3's from a nautilus smb:// window09:58
transgressheh i'm more of looking for a wireless webcam09:58
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transgressor a way to run a usb cam across the house without making it in the way09:58
geoffroy__ok09:58
ram_einsteinthanks all I have to go now...09:59
sir-goldtransgress, there are network webcams09:59
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g14transgress, look at x10 wireless webcams09:59
sir-goldwith a cat5 to wifi adaptor you could make it wireless09:59
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ram_einsteinhey, are you all on gnome?10:00
sir-goldno10:00
g14yep10:00
ram_einsteinkde sir-gold?10:00
sir-goldyeah10:00
ram_einsteingl4 ever used KDE?10:01
g14http://www.digitalprognosis.com/pics/Screenshot.png my desktop10:01
ram_einsteinapt-get install kubuntu-desktop sir-gold ?10:01
sir-goldyeah, i think so10:01
g14ram_einstein, I've used linux for about 8 years, yes I've tried out kde10:01
g14kde is too cluttered10:01
sir-goldthat may give you more apps that you want tho10:01
g14k3b is still the best linux cd burning app10:02
g14But gnome-baker or graveman are promising10:02
Seveasg14, the latest kde is quite nice though (I still don't like it, but plastik is an improvement)10:02
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ram_einsteinyou bet! I love k3b! but I don't have it here10:02
sir-goldkde seems a little more user-friendly10:02
ram_einstein... and I'm not familiar with apt..10:02
g14I kind of like the was SuSE uses keramik to make gtk and qt apps look the same10:02
ram_einsteinyes sir-gold I thought so too!10:02
Seveassir-gold, well not really, it's too clutterd & bloated still for that10:03
g14kde is more windowsy10:03
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Chipparni cant get wmv files to work with totem,Vlc or any other media player.. does it even works or have i been wasting my time trying to fix it?10:03
g14kde has way too much clutter10:03
g14I have a gnome desktop configured very similar to look like windows10:03
SeveasChipparn, have you installed the w32codecs?10:03
g14http://www.digitalprognosis.com/pics/Screenshot.png10:03
sir-goldwhat do you mean too much clutter?10:03
ChipparnSeveas: yes10:03
ram_einsteinhey apt-get install k3b doesn't do much10:04
g14Why does a cvs browser need to be directly in the filebrowser?10:04
ram_einsteinyeah it's standard desktop screenshot gl410:04
transgressanyone know a place to get extension cables for usb?  i know it's only supposed to go like 10 feet or something but i bet it'll work fine going about 25... i just worked out a nice way to run it to my room10:04
g14How many sane developers even use cvs?10:04
SeveasChipparn, are the wmv files DRM protected?10:04
g14Better yet, how many desktop users use cvs?10:04
ChipparnSeveas: when i try to run wmv files its all messed up .. like the file is broken or something.10:04
Seveasram_einstein, have you enabled universe?10:04
ChipparnSeveas. how do i know that?10:04
ram_einsteinuniverse Seveas what is that?10:04
SeveasChipparn, with *all* wmv files?10:04
g14If it doesn't need to be there, it shouldn't be. That is why gnome and the Human Interface Guidelines make it easier10:05
Seveasram_einstein, search for the AddingRepostoriesHowto (oslt) on the ubuntu wiki10:05
Seveasit contains most of the software10:05
ChipparnSeveas: yes .. all i have tried.. about 20 of them,, all the same10:05
ram_einsteinokay Seveas thanks10:05
SeveasChipparn, if they are not too big, can you send me 1 to test please10:05
g14night all10:05
g14I need to work tomorrow10:05
Seveasg'nicht g1410:05
ram_einsteinnight gl410:05
ChipparnSeveas: shure.10:06
ChipparnSeveas: hold on10:06
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SeveasChipparn, please e-mail it to dennis@kaarsemkaer.net (no dcc please)10:06
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ram_einsteinLater.10:07
ChipparnSeveas: ok.. well i dont think its any idea.. the file i have is about 16 mb.. ill try to look for a smaller.10:08
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Seveasok :)10:08
super_dude2i got errors when tring to get limwire to run how do got the right java dir?10:09
paul_can anyone tell me how to mount my other partitions? I cant access my windows partition?10:09
ChipparnSeveas: but what do you think the problem is?.. the wmv files i have played is all green and messy with pixels big as hell..10:09
Seveaspaul_, which partition is your windows partition and is it fat or ntfs?10:10
kakaltohey guys, I can't install a package, because another package seems to conflict. but I require both packages to compile a program, could someone help? the exact error is at http://pastebin.com/283083 .10:10
SeveasChipparn, no idea, i've had this with some files but most of them play well10:10
Seveasi wanted to try to get some debugging information :)10:10
Seveaskakalto, ehm, that's weird, why would you need 2 versions of the same package to be installed??10:11
CicalaMvtakakalto, try dpkg --force-overwrite10:11
geoffroy__Seveas, just a question, my shared music is on smb://lala/music10:11
Seveasthat's never going to work10:11
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kakaltoSeveas, I wouldn't know10:12
geoffroy__shouldn't mount -t smbfs /home..... smb://... work ?10:12
kakaltoSeveas, you mean CicalaMvta's idea will never work?10:12
Seveasgeoffroy__, no10:12
Seveasapt-get install smbfs10:12
Seveasmount -t smbfs \\\\server\\share /mount/point10:12
Seveasand some extra options :)10:12
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geoffroy__okay, i'll try10:12
geoffroy__thank you10:12
kakaltoSeveas ?10:13
Seveaskakalto, that might work10:13
ben_how important is using a firewall with Ubuntu? I only surf trusted websites.. do I still need one?10:13
Seveasbut I envision big problems coming your way when you do that :)10:13
kakaltoSeveas, that sounds re-assuring :)10:13
Seveasben_, by default no services are installed, so if you don't install any, a firewall is not too necccessary10:13
johnggot my bag of ubuntu cds today!10:13
Seveasnice johng10:13
Seveaswere are you from?10:14
ben_what do you mean by services?10:14
Seveasthings that listen for incoming connections like apache, sshd etc....10:14
johnglondon10:14
johngI'm giving them out at work10:14
super_dude2exir10:14
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kakaltojohng, is that hoary cds?10:14
johngyeh10:14
kakaltokewl10:14
Seveasgeoffroy__, if you can;t work ot the correct options just ask me :)10:14
kakaltoI'm still waiting >:)10:15
geoffroy__SMB connection failed10:15
geoffroy__what do you think of it ?10:15
Seveashmm10:15
ben_so why is it so necessary to run a firewall on windows? i use the kerio firewall and according to the log ive never been "attacked" or whatever you might call it10:15
geoffroy__and I have access by Nautilus10:15
Seveasis it a share for which you need to login geoffroy__ ?10:15
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johngvery fast delivery considering it's free, big respect to the ubuntu team10:15
revelaterjava anyone?10:15
geoffroy__yeah10:15
geoffroy__mount -t smbfs -o username=Geoffroy //lala/E/music /home/geoffroy/Desktop/Music10:15
ben_all my software firewall for windows appears to do it check before programs can use the internet10:15
geoffroy__no password10:15
geoffroy__just a nick10:15
Seveasgeoffroy__, this will not work by the way10:16
revelateror more appropriatly, does anyone know how to get java up and running?10:16
Seveasyou cannot mount folders inside shares10:16
geoffroy__oh10:16
Seveasonly the shares themself10:16
Seveasso \\\\lala\\E10:16
revelateranyone?10:17
kakaltoCicalaMvta, I tried that, it just said that the package conflicts10:17
Seveasrevelater, download the .bin installer from sun, install java-package and run make-jpkg binfile10:17
Seveasthat'll create a deb, which you can install with dpkg -i10:17
revelaterSeveas: shouldn't their be a binary?10:17
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revelaterin synaptic?10:17
Seveasrevelater, no, due to legal issues10:17
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Seveassun doesn't allow people to distribute debs10:18
revelaterthats anyoning...10:18
revelateranoying10:18
revelater?10:18
revelateri can't spell10:18
Seveasindeed, but completely beyond our control10:18
CicalaMvtakakalto, I don't understand why you need both packages: libavcodeccvs-dev *and* libavcodec-dev_3%3a0.cvs20050121-1ubuntu1_i386.deb10:18
Seveasand the make-jpkg command creates a deb that'll integreat just as good as other debs10:18
revelatermy spelling or the licencing?10:18
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Seveaslol, the licensing ;)10:19
revelater:P10:19
revelaterlol10:19
Seveasyour spelling is waaay out of control :p10:19
kakaltoCicalaMvta, neither do I, but when trying to compile transcoder, it says I need both10:19
revelaterROFL10:19
CicalaMvtakakalto: dpkg --force-help10:19
ben_is there a way to enable 32 bit desktop with ubuntu? i managed to get 1600x1200 res to work but the depth crashes if i change it to 3210:19
CicalaMvta:)10:19
kakaltothanks10:19
Seveaskakalto, gtranscode is in the repositories...10:19
revelateralright, thanks Seveas, i need to get some sleep now, gnight all!10:20
Seveasgnight!10:20
kakaltoSeveas, gtranscode is only a frontend, and transcode doesn't support avi out-of-the-box10:20
Seveasok10:20
geoffroy__smb connection failed again10:20
geoffroy__grrr10:20
Seveasgeoffroy__, I always mount smb shares like this, maybe it'll help:10:20
poningruanyone here using opera?10:20
Seveassmbmount \\\\Blackbird\\C /mnt/samba/blackbird/c -o username=Dennis\ Kaarsemaker,password=mypass,uid=dennis,gid=dennis,dmask=0022,fmask=013310:21
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geoffroy__22236: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)10:22
geoffroy__SMB connection failed10:22
Seveasthat means you specified the wrong username and/or password10:23
geoffroy__i wonder how could I read my music before..10:23
Seveasdo you still have the samba connection in nautilus open?10:23
geoffroy__no10:23
Seveaswhat is your mount command?10:23
poningruanyone?10:24
geoffroy__smbmount \\\\lala\\E /home/geoffroy/Desktop/Music10:24
geoffroy__ -o username=Geoffroy10:24
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Seveastyr -o username=Geoffroy,guest10:24
Seveastry*10:25
geoffroy__i love you10:25
geoffroy__it works10:25
Seveas:)10:25
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geoffroy__ahaha u re so cool \o/10:25
Seveasmanpages help too :)10:25
Seveasman smbmount in this case10:25
geoffroy__yeah i know i know10:25
geoffroy__i should man all the time10:25
Seveas:)10:25
geoffroy__and i bother people.10:25
k31thmorning10:26
Seveasgeoffroy__, not really, you stay polite :)10:26
Seveassome people get mad if the first attempt fails10:26
k31thanyone had luck with that knoppix distro that boots inside windows, the modded version10:26
geoffroy__yeah yeah but the answer are all in man pages or internet10:26
geoffroy__I could find it...!10:26
Seveassure, but manpages sometimes are horrible :)10:26
johngk31th it was very slow for me10:26
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Seveasby the way: if you like manpages, youshould install funny-manpages and asr-manpages :)10:27
k31thjohng: it wnt load :(10:27
johngk31th: what error do u get?10:28
k31thi dont10:28
geoffroy__ahah10:28
k31tham i right in thinking it should just autoload ?10:28
johngyep :)10:28
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k31thdoesnt lol10:28
geoffroy__and the file /mtab10:28
geoffroy__I have to edit it ?10:28
johngmaybe u hav the wrong ver, I think it's a customized knoppix u need10:29
k31thyes i have it10:29
geoffroy__or mount will be done every time I boot ?10:29
Seveasyou can set the smb mountpoints in /etc/fstab if you want the shares to be mounted at every bot10:29
k31thjohng: it has this dir qemu-0.6.1-windows-210:29
geoffroy__ok10:29
k31thon the root of cd10:29
geoffroy__fstab so10:29
k31thwhich is the cou emulation thingyy10:29
geoffroy__i'm such a dick, I knew all these things and I forgot all10:29
geoffroy__this is the result of beeing on windows since 1 year..10:29
johngyeh try and find an exe for qemu in there10:29
geoffroy__I'm only good at iptables..10:30
Seveasthe human brain is volatile :010:30
Seveas:)10:30
geoffroy__ahha10:30
geoffroy__definitively10:30
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k31thyeah i found that10:31
johngso does it run?10:31
k31thno lol10:32
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k31thit runs then does sweet fa10:32
johngi don't hav my copy here so sorry but I can't sheck for ya :(10:32
johngjust use the ubuntu live cd :)10:32
k31thdoes that have it on ?10:33
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johngno but its ubuntu10:33
k31thlol10:33
geoffroy__do you know another firewall than firestarter ?10:34
geoffroy__or firestarter is the best ?10:34
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k31threason i want it is so i can ssh to my server at work.. (runs 2003 server) and i dont want to install cygwin10:34
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Seveasfirestarter is simply a frontend to iptables10:35
kakaltoI heard a funny thing about a person who bought 2003 server10:35
Seveasyou might as well wright your own iptables scripts :)10:35
johngcygwin is pretty small10:35
kakaltothe person assured the local computer store that they wanted 2003 SERVER edition for their DESKTOP10:35
googah.. bloody kanotix repo introduces xchat 2.4.3 with Sarge libc6 deps... *removed*10:35
kakaltoa couple of weeks later, came complaining about it, because it was server edition10:36
Seveasomg....10:36
gorilla_kaesehummer, gawd...10:36
k31ththis chris-uk guy is famous who modded that knoppix distro!10:36
k31thhes on slashdot10:36
Seveaskakalto, you're kidding right?10:36
Seveas:)10:36
johnglol10:36
kakaltoSeveas, nope :)10:36
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kakaltoSeveas, I know the people at the local comp store very well, I tend to preach the linux gospel down there often10:37
Seveashehe10:37
Seveasbring'em a bag of hoary CD's :)10:37
gorilla_Seveas, It would have to happen somewhere in the world... there are plenty of stupid people...10:37
kakaltothey don't take it the best, but they realise I believe differently10:37
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kakaltoSeveas, that's why I'm waiting for them :)10:37
Seveasgorilla_, ack :)10:37
johngi can help with a bag of cds :)10:37
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kakaltojohng, I believe that I'm on the opposite side of the world from you :)10:38
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kakaltohow many did ya get?10:38
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Seveaskakalto, that would be new zealand :)10:39
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gorilla_johng, how many have you been harding??10:39
kakaltoSeveas, correct :)10:39
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gorilla_oops hoarding rather :-P10:39
Scorpinfwhat direct connect client can i install for linux?10:39
gooSo the cd's are being shipped now?10:39
johngless than 50 I think10:39
Seveasgoo, yes10:40
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gorilla_Seveas, if thats the case... woot!! :-)10:40
goocool! I ordered 40 cds to share out to fellow commuters on the train10:40
johnggoo u read my mind10:40
kakaltowhen I log into shipit, it says they haven't sent to me yet :(10:40
Burgundaviagoo, they are being shipped now, but they will contact you when yours actually ship10:40
gooBurgundavia: ah, very very good10:41
johngmine came from the netherlands10:41
johngaccording to the postmark10:41
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johnggot a nice variety pack of powerpc, x64 and x8610:41
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Seveashaven;t received mine though :S10:42
johngmmm strange10:42
deFrysk<--Friesland10:42
deFryskgot mine tuesday10:42
johngmaybe they ship em out first come first served basis10:42
Seveaskakalto, where do you see whether they shipped it or not?10:43
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kakaltoSeveas, when you log into shipit.ubuntulinux.org, it says what orders it has sent out to youi10:43
kakalto*you10:43
kakalto0_0 I am stupid10:44
Seveasi don;t see any 'hey i've sent this', so they aren't sent yet i guess :)10:44
johngI ordered mine the day they switched over from taking warty to hoary orders10:44
kakaltoI wanted to re-encode my avi to mpg.... spent HOURS trying to get 'transcode' to do it, then find out that ffmpeg can do it, and within 5 minutes start encoding10:45
kakalto0_0;;;10:45
Seveashaha10:45
johnglol10:46
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kakaltowow, I gotta add that to my ubuntuforums.org user.... that's a real achievement :)10:48
johngI downloaded some hdtv transport stream files yesterday - man they r crisp!10:48
geoffroy__thank you, all the people who helped me, especially you, Seveas10:48
Seveasyw geoffroy__10:48
geoffroy__I'll come back with other stupid questions \o/10:48
geoffroy__have a good day10:48
Seveasthat's why we're here :)10:48
k31thanyone watching 24 ?10:48
geoffroy__u re cooler than man pages10:48
geoffroy__ciao ciao10:48
k31thman its getting tense !10:48
johngyep thats what my hdtv download was!10:48
k31thjohng: yeah there ripp sat streams10:49
johngk31th with my 5.1 speakers it was incredible, really good ep10:49
k31thyeah10:49
k31thits awsome10:49
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k31thyou got 5.1 working in ubuntu ?10:49
k31ththe end of the last ep where jack killed that guy10:49
k31thharsh10:49
k31thbut he did make the right decision10:50
johngno this was on my windows box at home10:50
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Seveas:p10:50
k31thyuk windows i try my hardest not use that lol10:50
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johngyeh well I am in a 'transistional phase' right now :)10:50
k31thmy boss just rang said he wont be in today or its unlikely10:51
johngk31th never seen jack look the way he did at the end of the last episode after killing paul10:51
paul_can anyone tellme how to mount the other partitions of my hard drive? they arent visible?10:51
k31thjohng: yah right10:51
k31thmust be a hard thing to do10:51
k31thfact of the matter is he could of died anyway10:52
johngdo u know if I can play .ts files in ubunut?10:52
k31ththere so fucked now that guy died10:52
johngyeh10:52
Seveaspaul_, sure, which partitions, what filesystem?10:52
k31ththeres only 3 eps left10:52
k31thmaybe they are setting them selfs up for season 510:52
johngI want see what happens with the whole pissing off china deal thats happenign10:52
kakaltois there some kind of frontend for ffmpeg?10:52
paul_ntfs forthe other partition.10:52
johngyeh I like a good end of seaon cliffhanger10:52
k31thare they making a season 510:53
Seveaspaul_, do you know which partition the ntfs partition is?10:53
johngi guess10:53
k31thi remeber when i was unemployeed i watched season 1 2 and 3 all in a row10:53
k31thover the corse of 4 days10:53
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johnghaha ur the man10:53
paul_yes partition dev/hda2 , i can access it with knoppix, just downloaded ubuntu yesterday.... having some dramas. like my wifi drops outand wont reconect :(10:54
k31thwow ubuntu shipp free pressed cd's10:54
k31ththey must have awsome funding !10:54
johngyep a millionare!10:54
Burgundaviak31th, millionare playboy10:54
Seveaspaul_, mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/windows10:54
k31thplayboy ?10:54
Seveasbe sure you do a mkdir /mnt/windows first10:55
Scorpinfwhat direct connect client can i install for linux?10:55
paul_thanks, will try10:55
k31thi thought it was a support contractor10:55
johngshuttleworth10:55
Seveaslol k31th, no it's Mark Shuttleworth10:55
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k31thbrb need a piss10:55
johngenjoy10:55
Seveask31th, we do NOT need to know that ;)10:55
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Seveaspaul_, add this to /etc/fstab: /dev/hda2       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,uid=dennis,gid=dennis,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 0 010:56
Seveasjust replace 'dennis' with your username10:56
k31ththats better10:56
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paul_ok - iwill try, new to linux...10:57
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k31this it possible to buy shares online ?10:58
Seveaspaul_, i noticed that, that's whi i give you the newbie-proof advice ;)10:58
johngk31th it is in the UK10:59
paul_lol cheers. My system seems to hang. Before i tried to access the properties of the wifi - it just drops out, now itried to access root terminal and it wont load and the system appears to slow.11:00
k31thjohng: im in the uk11:00
k31thjohng: where :D11:00
johngk31th I kno people who do it on egg.com11:01
johngk31th: sposed to be pretty good11:01
k31thlooking on there now..11:02
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k31thhumm11:04
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k31thdamn i thought it was friday today11:04
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caramboli have checked the safety of iptables/firestarter settings. And GRC shows up that ping is possible. How to fix this one?11:04
k31thhttp://home.btconnect.com/chrisandcarolyn/ubuntu-hoary/virtual-warty.png11:04
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johngk31th cool man11:05
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pshendhi all11:05
pshendis it ok to use gnome's icon's on commercial projects, converted to gifs?11:05
k31thjohng: i might be 1337 and make a hoary cd that boots in windows11:06
Burgundaviapshend, why are using gifs, and gnomes trademark is gnomes11:06
invisiblekidhi all11:06
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johngk31th: whats the speed on that badboy like?11:06
k31ththats not my screenie11:06
pshendBurgundavia, i'm just replacing existing gif's with gnome icons, like printer icons etc11:06
k31thsome one elses11:07
k31ththink is11:07
k31ththing*11:07
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Burgundaviapshend, contact the gnome people regarding their trademark policy11:07
k31thits gonna depend how much ram you got11:07
johngyeh11:07
johngtru11:07
k31thas i would imagen it canes ram bad11:07
invisiblekid anyone know about "NT_STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND" for samba shares?  its an error i get when trying to connect to the workgroup11:07
k31thits gonna take me 2 hours 40 to download the bootable hoary cd11:08
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k31thdamn slow connection11:08
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johngcrap11:08
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k31thyeah11:09
k31thhopefully we are going to get a leased line11:09
k31thbut it will probly only be 2mbp11:09
bob2invisiblekid: I'd guess you got the workgroup wrong11:09
k31thbut in either direction11:09
johngk31th: I have 4mbit in central london11:09
carambolhow do i fix the ping hole in firestarter11:09
johng:-D11:09
carambol?11:09
invisiblekidi dont think its that because it worked like a week ago, and i checked the config and its the same11:09
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k31thjohng: yes but is the 256k upload11:10
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k31thim in bath...11:10
k31thwent to an isp in london got shit loads of free racks, isp called mistral11:10
johngcool11:10
johngI get 4mbit for only 30 o month!11:11
k31thnice11:11
johngbulldog11:11
|FAMAS|Xbilllol11:11
k31thi pay 25 quid for 2mbp11:11
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k31thjohng: its not always 4mbp tho is it ?11:11
k31thdont it dropp ?11:11
transgressis there a reason klineakconfig doesn't work?11:12
transgressafter installing lineakd?11:12
johngyeh it is and it dont drop, in central london bulldog hav their own kit in the exchanges11:12
johngthats why its such a good service11:12
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k31thjohng: nice11:13
k31thcentral london has its pros and cons !11:13
johngyeh rent LOL!11:13
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k31thdo you have to pay the congestion charge if u drive in there ?11:13
k31thif you live there11:13
johngno one drives to work here, but yes would have to if u did11:13
transgressno one uses lineak?11:13
k31thjohng: you tube it11:14
johngnope bus it, I live just outside the congestion zone11:14
k31thi was in london end of last month11:14
johngbus service is much better these days11:14
k31thi almost went the wrong way on the tube lol11:14
johnghehe11:14
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k31thi hate that tube 5:30 its packed11:14
johnglike a can of sardines11:15
k31thstanding  by a door with people breathing in your face11:15
johnghehe11:15
johngyou have to try and not think about that strange thing rubbing against ur leg11:15
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Raptoidslmlr.11:16
k31thif i had a motobike id just ripp straight thru london and not bother with the tube11:16
k31thyeah i hate touching those bars11:16
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k31ththinking of all the scrubbs that have had there hands all over um!11:16
gorilla_k31th, that's what gloves are for... incinerate them at the end of the week :-)11:17
k31thdidnt they find more dises on the tube than in large hospitals11:17
k31thgorilla_: lol yeah ill buy a 300 box of latex gloves11:17
willisthe diseases on the tube keep our immune systems strong11:18
k31thwhen i was last on there this jipo guy was collecting money11:18
willisi'm hardly ever sick and i live in central london11:18
k31thkool11:18
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k31thim never ill apart from the odd cold11:19
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mirakhi11:19
k31thi got the munchies already11:20
mirakI am installing a system with deboostrap, I want to know how I can install a full system11:20
mirakwithout having it starting the services11:20
k31thdoes anyone know of any HowTos or guides that need doing for ubuntu11:20
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jsgotangcok31th, you mean you intend to help out in documentation?11:21
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k31thjsgotangco: yes id love to11:21
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k31thjsgotangco: id love to help out anyway i can11:22
jsgotangcok31th, you can join the discussion at #ubuntu-doc11:22
k31thgreat thanks11:22
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rommeris there a way i can create a partition which can be both read and written to with ubuntu and winxp?11:24
Seveasrommer, yes11:24
Seveascreate a fat32 partition11:24
rommerok11:24
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paul_can someone tell me how to access the root terminal? i cant enter a passwrd11:25
Kejk_PLWhy don't use Breezy yet?11:25
Kejk_PLsudo su11:25
Seveasbecause breezy will be extremely unstable as of monday11:26
paul_ok - it asks for a password, i dont knowit11:26
Seveasand right now there's a dbus transition going on11:26
Seveaspaul_, use YOUR password11:26
jsgotangcoits bound to be broken anytime now11:26
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Kejk_PLoh :-o11:26
SeveasKejk_PL, c++ abi change & complete toolchain transition start monday11:26
paul_i tried that, didnt work..11:26
Seveasand if you don;t know what it means: DON'T use breezy11:26
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Seveaspaul_, it has to, or is the logged in user not the user you created when installing?11:27
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Kejk_PLSeveas, on Debian site they say, don't use SID11:28
SeveasKejk_PL, ubuntu == a stable sid11:28
Kejk_PLso I am asking what is a differet, but thanks anyway!11:28
Seveasso if ubuntu goes unstable, things are really rough :)11:28
Kejk_PL:011:28
Kejk_PL:)11:28
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Seveasi consider myself an experienced linux user, but no way i am going to use breezy for the next weeks11:29
paul_hmm same account, i used only 1 password. can i change the passwrd? i can doit in knoppix but cant on ubuntu.11:29
jsgotangcomost devels dont even use it11:29
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dead^^how can i get scandinavian letters on X-Chat? yesterday i had problems with them and somebody pasted me '/command iso.xxx' or something :P11:31
paul_got it thanks steve11:31
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Kejk_PLSeveas, this is for my sisters :)11:32
Kejk_PLthey are not experiencd11:32
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jonohi all, is there a program to pop up a small gtk dialog box?11:35
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Seveasjono, yes11:35
kakaltog'nite all11:35
Seveasjono, it's called zenity11:35
kakaltothanks whoever has helped me tonight11:35
kakaltoSeveas, thanks for the award ;)11:35
Seveas;)11:35
dead^^where are the characterset preferences on X-Chat?11:35
Seveasdead^^, xchat uses the system wide locale setting for that11:36
dead^^Seveas, ...meaning?11:36
Seveasdepends on what you need to do :)11:37
goodead^^: it's pr. server in the Server List11:37
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Shuflahello11:37
goodead^^: err, pr. network.11:37
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dead^^Seveas, i need to put scandinavian letters, like a with dots, etc...11:38
mbirrellhere I am11:38
Seveasgoo, thanks, didn;t know that :)11:38
Seveasdead^^, listen to goo, he's right11:38
gooSeveas: :)11:38
mbirrell8)11:38
Seveasmbirrell, oh no11:38
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mbirrellhey I'm having trouble mounting my firewire disk11:39
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paul_steve - how do i open and edit fstab. dont have privilege?11:39
Seveassudo gedit /etc/fstab11:40
mbirrelldoes anyone know the correct mount syntax11:40
Seveasmbirrell, sure, man mount knows it too :)11:40
Kejk_PLman mount11:40
goodead^^: OR you can type /charset iso-8859-111:40
Kejk_PLpaul_, sudu kwrite "file"11:40
Kejk_PLsorry gedit11:41
SeveasKejk_PL, kwrite is not standard on ubuntu, gedit is :)11:41
Seveasmbirrell, what is the mount problem?11:41
Kejk_PLhehe, I forgot, that in Ubuntu is Gnome :)11:41
SeveasKejk_PL, and please use kate, not kwrite :)11:41
Kejk_PLSeveas, why, Kate is slower (in my opinion)11:42
mbirrellI don't know the /dev type11:42
mbirrellis it /dev/scsi?11:42
Seveasmbirrell, what are you trying to do, mount your windows partition?11:42
Kejk_PLis in Ubuntuu good support for fuse? Especially /dev/ttyUSB* devicec?11:42
mbirrellmount my firewore disk which happenst to be fat3211:43
Seveastry /dev/sda11:43
Kejk_PLHave you been using SieFS (for mobile phone)?11:44
Kejk_PLNow in my Debian I have messed up /dev/ directory (without udev, devfs etc, only files)11:44
Kejk_PL...so I can't chceck it11:44
Seveas:)11:44
RudiHello all.11:45
mbirrellwhat is the mount type for fat32?11:45
Rudimbirrell: vfat11:46
mbirrell wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,11:47
Rudimbirrell: and your command is?11:47
mbirrellsorry I am a windoz person cutting over to Linux11:47
mbirrellmount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/scsidisk11:48
Seveasso it isn;t /dev/sda11:48
mbirrellsda1 maybe?11:48
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Seveasthere was a command to find out which one it is, i just forgot it :S11:48
Rudimbirrell: try "fdisk -l /dev/sda"11:49
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Kejk_PLtry to read /var/log/messages11:49
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Raptoidslmlr..11:49
alexandrehi11:49
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Kejk_PLthere should be on which device/file you hard drive is11:50
alexandrehow can i add (or remove) elements form the Applications menu (or even in others menus)?11:50
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Seveasalexandre, see the HoaryMenuEditing part of wiki.ubuntu.com11:50
mbirrellmount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /media/scsidisk did it!!!!11:50
mbirrellthanks people11:50
Kejk_PLmbirrell, after reboot device can change ;-)11:51
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alexandrek11:51
mbirrelloh noooooo11:51
Kejk_PLI had this problem with USB digital camera11:51
Kejk_PLbut don't worry, it probebly win't11:51
mbirrellwhat if I plug it into same port11:51
Kejk_PL*/won't11:51
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paul_i cant seem to load certain applications, it starts and says loading in the taskbar and then stops and disapears.like my updates- cant apply them or even load the manager...?11:51
paul_any ideas?11:51
mbirrelldo I put it in mtab now?11:52
Kejk_PLif you plug it in the same port, it should be good11:52
Kejk_PLmbirrell, no11:52
mbirrellor fstab11:52
Rudimbirrell: yes, mtab and fstab11:52
mbirrellcool11:52
Kejk_PLRudi, mtab? for what, it is generated automaticaly11:52
RudiKejk_PL - manually is manually ;-)11:53
Seveasonly fstab is needed, putting it in mtab is plain wrong11:53
Kejk_PLSeveas, indeed11:53
Raptoidfstab only11:55
Raptoidno mtab11:55
pshendanyone know why i get this error whenever i try to use nautilus ftp: no default action associated with this location11:55
mbirrellfstab?11:56
Kejk_PLmbirrell, /etc/fstab11:57
mbirrellhow do i invoc autofs?11:57
Seveaspshend nautilus will cry out unrelevant errors if you don'y use ftp://server11:57
Kejk_PLmbirrell, read man fstab if want more information11:57
Kejk_PLmbirrell, I never used it11:57
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quadlineif you take a look in fstab yourself you will see what is in it already11:58
quadlineyou can use that as an example too11:58
quadlineI did that11:58
quadlineit helps11:58
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mark345hey:) anyone know how to get a dvd to eject by pressing the button on the drive?11:59
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jsgotangco?11:59
mark345my drive is a sony drx-710ul, its fairly new11:59
jsgotangcoeject command doesnt work?11:59
mark345without having to right click on the icon on the desktop to eject it11:59
Seveasmark345, you cannot eject without unmounting12:00
pshendSeveas, i'll give that a go - ta12:00
Seveassafety measure :)12:00
mark345can't it unmount from the touch of the button on the drive?12:00
mark345or unmount when not in use?12:01
mark345automatically?12:01
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Seveasyou would think that :)12:01
Seveas(I believe it's being worked on)12:01
mark345are they working on this feature12:01
mark345oh12:01
mark345cool12:01
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jsgotangconot just mounting stuff12:02
mark345anyone here know how to upgrade to the latest gnome 2.10.1?12:02
mark345cool12:02
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IIIEarslol (glad Seveas said that)12:02
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t31hi, everyone o/12:04
Seveashi12:04
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t31got problems with skype, anyone knows it well?12:04
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johngbreezy better include mono as standard12:07
Seveasjohng it does12:07
Seveasand also beagle12:07
johngthank god12:07
Seveasand tomboy12:07
johngI have started developing in mono this week12:08
johngand that was my main beef with it12:08
johngwhen they sort out the windows.forms support its gonn be plain sailing12:08
jsgotangcoand blam, and muine, and f-spot heh12:09
jsgotangcobring them all!12:09
johng:-D12:09
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johnghoary just came out and we are already wanting breezy lol12:11
jsgotangcowell you can run a lot of mono apps on hoary atm12:11
pshendstill no luck using nautilus ftp, even with different ftp urls12:11
lokarg mono omg12:11
johngyeh I do but it's nice to know that mono will be standard if U am gonna start developing in ti12:11
jsgotangcoyeah12:12
jsgotangcoits pretty interesting12:12
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johngthe o'reilly mono book is very good12:13
johngreally gets you into it quickly12:13
jsgotangcomm lemme check that out12:14
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jsgotangcojohng, by chance is this Mono: A Developer's Notebook?12:15
johngyeh thats the one12:15
jsgotangcolooks good12:15
johngdoesn't beat around the bush, just throws you straight into it12:16
mbirrell_what file does autofs look at to know what to try to mount12:16
mbirrell_eg when you plug in a usb or firewire disk12:17
jsgotangconice book reviews12:17
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kart_jsgotangco: ya, I have it! Good book!12:18
Seveasi have programming C# from microsoft press :)12:19
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jsgotangcodoesnt work hrmm12:19
bitsmashhi12:19
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Seveashi12:19
bitsmashare there any other 5.04 to add extra packages like mplayer, blender d4x etc12:20
Seveasbitsmash, what do you mean?12:20
bitsmashextra sources12:20
Seveasmplayer is in multiverse12:20
Seveasdunno about the others12:20
bitsmashSeveas, how can i add that? is there docs somewhere?12:21
kart_bitsmash: there is Add-on cd of ubuntu!12:21
paco_you should add source in the /etc/apt/source.list files..12:21
bitsmashkart_, my nets not that fast12:21
paco_and then run apt-get update..12:21
paco_this is the best way12:21
paco_how fast is it ?12:21
bitsmashpaco_, :ya ill try12:21
Seveashttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto/view?searchterm=adding%20repositories12:22
paco_do U want my sources.list ?12:22
kart_see: ubuntuguide.org12:22
Seveaskart_, ubuntuguite contains some errors...12:22
kart_ya12:22
bitsmashi just used synaptic12:22
Seveasplease d not refer to it blindly (ok, in this case it's ok :o)  )12:22
paco_this is the same..12:23
paco_it's use apt12:23
bitsmashsynaptic is the easy way12:23
kart_I prefer apt-get than synaptic..12:23
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k31thyo12:23
owenhey, is there a good image viewing app anyone can recommend like irfan view?12:23
k31th?] 12:23
Seveaskart_, you should try aptitude too :)12:23
paco_thats it.. :)12:23
k31ththe gimp12:23
Seveasowen, eog or gthumb?12:23
kart_tried!12:23
jsgotangcook im out bye all12:24
k31thjsgotangco: later12:24
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lolohelo12:25
k31thanyone tried running winamp in wine12:25
oweneog's alright.. but u can't scroll through images in a directory with the arrows, or view detailed information12:25
Seveask31th, try beep-media-player. It's like winamp :)12:25
jsgotangcothats wasteful12:25
killapopowen: gthumb gets my vote12:26
paco_anyone could give me the reason of a very large policy with Amule under Gnome ?12:26
mjrvery large policy?12:26
bitsmashsynaptic is sweet12:27
paco_yeeah, it's very big..12:27
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owencan one scroll through images forwards and back in gthumb? i can only seem to go forward with spacebar12:28
siimohi can someone help me it seems my linux system was hacked :(12:28
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IIIEarssiimo - Really?12:28
siimoMay 12 14:09:33 localhost -- MARK --12:28
siimoMay 12 14:29:33 localhost -- MARK --12:28
siimowhat are these things?12:28
IIIEarslocalhost is the loopback ip address everyos has one12:29
IIIEarseven windows12:29
siimoso this is not actually a hack then12:29
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IIIEarsno - it is VERY unlikely12:29
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siimoweird cause about that time my system seems to have rebooted itself12:30
bitsmashno one will hack u unless u make them angry12:30
siimoanywhere i can check this?12:30
IIIEars<< :X12:30
mjrpaco_, what you mean the fonts? probably because it's using the old gtk 1 and is unsupported and nobody's bothered to finetune it12:30
IIIEarslol12:30
Craspsiimo: it might be a hardware or power failure most likely12:31
Craspsiimo: these don't pop up in logs12:31
siimoCrasp, if it was a power failure it wont start again12:31
siimoso im guessing it was a software failure12:31
Craspsiimo: and it is very unlikely someone will "hack" you to just reboot your system :)12:32
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siimoCrasp, but it could be a bug in some program or kernel?12:32
k31thSeveas: does it have winamp tv12:32
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Craspsiimo: it can still be a power failure, if it was a really really small glitch it might have rebooten accidently12:32
Crasps/rebooten/rebooted12:32
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Craspsiimo: crashing programs normally don't cause reboots unless you have defective hardware12:33
Seveassiimo, the ---MARK---- lines in your log are normal12:33
siimoCrasp, yeah but my computer shuts off if its a power failure it doesnt reboot12:33
siimoCrasp, all i had running was a shell with wget downloading something12:33
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Craspsiimo: well mine is supposed to do that too, but i speak out of experience that it is not always so12:33
siimoCrasp, oh ok12:33
Craspsiimo: you could run a memory test for example12:34
k31thhumm wat shall i get for lunch12:34
Craspsiimo: www.memtest86.com12:34
Craspsiimo: also be sure to check if your cpu is not getting too hot12:34
siimobut it seems like a software bug though because usually i can stay up for days12:34
siimoCPU is at 51C12:34
alex__i`ve got a ntfs-partition where i have music on it..but i can only mount it as root..how can i read that as normal user?12:34
k31thmc donalds, fish and chips, or healthy food12:34
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siimoit has rebooted 6 hrs ago12:34
Craspsiimo: well there are still inifite possibilities that it was a hardware failure12:35
johngi could murder fish and chips right now12:35
k31thor i could eat it all12:35
SeveasCrasp, memtest86 is included with ubuntu :)12:35
k31thjohng: lol12:35
k31thim starving12:35
Craspsiimo: just ignore it, and see if it happens again before stating any failure in software12:35
k31thSeveas: yes i find that handy12:35
johngjust got my crappy sandwiches for lunch again12:35
siimoCrasp, ok thanks12:35
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holycowsiimo i just replaced one system whos cpu would just restart the machine because it was overheating, i accidentally found out by taking the side panel off and running the system that way ... then relizing it worked fine like that and checking cpu temp12:35
owensiimo: power faliure can be caused by a small surge to the power supply, or something momentarily pulling too much power or something.. PSUs can restart as a security feature before any blip in power can reach and fry components12:36
k31thjohng: there is a chipshop over the road from where i work12:36
holycowits funny how cpu temp can on some systems rise dramatically when you close the panel12:36
siimohmm ok, but this has never happened to me ever12:36
k31thiv worked here a month12:36
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k31thand iv had chips like 4 times already12:36
johngk31th *drool*12:36
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k31thisunt fish n chips the worst thing for you12:37
k31thits probly worse than mc donalds, infact no nothing is that bad12:37
Fator_DeeI can think of worse12:37
k31thFator_Dee: cocaine12:37
Fator_Deethat too12:37
k31thlol12:37
siimoCrasp, i found this now12:38
IIIEarsTwinkies12:38
siimoMay 12 13:49:33 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#16ubuntu6: restart.12:38
siimoit seems to have restarted12:38
siimoby someone12:38
siimoor some program12:38
k31thwat ill do is.. have 2ltrs of water sausage and chips and a tune sandwich12:38
johngk31th: well at least they use real fish in the chip shop12:38
k31thtrue12:38
k31thnot fake cow buger12:38
k31thburger !12:38
johnglol12:38
k31thim not suggesting some one fakes buggering a cow12:39
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k31thjohng: wat you do for a job in london12:39
IIIEars(suddenly loses appetitie)12:39
k31thIIIEars:  lol12:39
Seveask31th, johng, please try to keep it on-topic :)12:39
siimoany idea what that restart command means12:40
Fator_Deeatleast I know what I'm going to eat, porridge \o/12:40
johngk31th: I am on my placement from uni, I work for the gov as systems engineer12:40
k31thSeveas: there opensource chips :)12:40
Seveask31th...12:40
k31thsorry :D12:40
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MattFletI'm trying to install kubuntu hoary on my work machine and the installer hangs at the message "Initializing USB mass storagte device..." anyone have any ideas?12:41
upgrdmananyone know if using the samba server will limit my file size? I'm gonna be using ext3 on the partition i will be sharing, and i'm wondering if that stupid 2GB or is it 4GB file-size-limit that fat32 has will affect me? e.g. does samba even act like fat32?12:41
upgrdmanoh and, whats the file size limit for ext3?12:41
k31thMattFlet: do you have a usb pen in there /.12:41
k31th?*12:41
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geoffroy_hey hey12:41
MattFletno. i have a usb mouse, which i tried disconnecting12:41
Seveasupgrdman, smb has no filesize limit12:41
MattFletand it still hung there12:41
upgrdmansweet12:41
geoffroy_do you know a itunes like on ubuntu ?12:41
k31thupgrdman: iirc there is no file size limit on ext312:41
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geoffroy_i don't like music player installed by default12:42
siimodoes anyone know what this line means : May 12 13:49:33 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#16ubuntu6: restart.12:42
johngwe should develop gfishnchips then we could talk about it12:42
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IIIEarsMattFlet - is it a laptop?12:42
Seveassiimo, that your system logger has been restarted12:42
MattFletno a desktop machine12:42
k31thMattFlet: is the disc bad12:42
upgrdmank31th, oh good! i have to do a dd-rescue to a dieing 250GB hdd.... and my new fileserver that im construction has a 500GB lvm partition12:42
k31thdid you md512:42
Seveask31th, there always is a file size limit12:42
Seveasthe size of your HD :)12:42
k31thSeveas: really ?12:42
k31thoh12:42
MattFletthe only other usb-type thing it has is a media card reader. that is internal but i assume it connects via a usb header somehow12:42
k31thlol12:42
MattFletno, disc is good, installed on another machine12:43
k31thMattFlet: thats will do it12:43
upgrdmanthank god my room has it own gigabit ethernet switch12:43
MattFletthe media card reader?12:43
k31this there a flash media card in there ?12:43
IIIEars:? - i had no problems with any USB devices and got a ton...12:43
MattFletno, it's empty12:43
upgrdmandoing a dd-rescue of a 250GB drive to a fileserver in my clost would take forever otherwise12:43
SeveasMattFlet, file a bug in the bugzilla against the installer, try to include as much hardware info as you can12:43
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Seveasupgrdman, hmm :)12:44
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k31thupgrdman: lol12:44
Seveastry to do it via a serial cable :)12:44
k31thi must sort my self out with a raid 5 of at least 500 gigs12:44
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IIIEarsThere must be an install log recording the errors - where do you look for it?12:44
MattFletok i will do. where can i get hardware info like that? and is there a way round the problem? i don't use the reader, so maybe if i disable it in the BIOS somehow that would get round it12:44
Seveas/var/log/debian-installer12:45
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k31thdmesg ?12:45
k31thyeah or there12:45
k31thlol12:45
johngdoes ne one run ubuntu on a semperon cpu?12:45
k31thjohng: not I12:45
MattFletjohng, i do12:45
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k31thathlons clocked to hell12:45
MattFletit runs fine12:45
Juhazsome may run ubuntu on sempron, but I doubt anyone does on semperon12:45
Aemaethill be attempting it on a thoroughbred 2morrow12:45
k31thand a celeron 2.5gig12:45
johngcool, I was thinking about getting one for a seperate box12:45
k31thjohng: yes there cheap12:46
k31thwhen i upgrade my main box ill be using mine as a NAS12:46
johngI have a pile of ram and a hard drive so I just want something cheap to use em on12:46
IIIEarsk31th - sounds cool - printserver also?12:47
MattFleti believe the slower semprons are overclocked athlons, whereas the faster ones are a different chip. my sempron 2800 is borderline, so i don't honestly know which it is. it's plenty fast enough to dual boot windows media center 2005 and kubuntu hoary12:47
k31thill get one of those 5 port netgear gigabit switches for home as well there only  36 uk pounds12:47
k31thIIIEars: i cant get my crappy usb printer to work in linux12:47
JuhazMattFlet, socket-a semprons are basically renamed athlon x12:47
johngthanks MattFlet12:47
Juhazxp12:47
k31thits a canon12:47
Aemaethanyone know if hoary is shipping yet?12:48
Juhazsocket-754 semprons are more or less equivalent to athlon 64's with 64-bit mode disabled12:48
SeveasAemaeth, it is12:48
Aemaethgood12:48
Aemaethcos i put myself down for some12:48
k31thyup athlons are no more apart for 64's have you looked into getting a athlon mbile from overclockers.co.uk johng12:48
johngI have an athlon xp 3200 what are they like compared to those?12:48
Aemaethcos i only have a cd of the previous one12:48
k31ththey have a very low vcore voltage and clock very well12:48
IIIEarsCanon makes a good printer - I am stuck with a noisy HP.12:48
k31thIIIEars: yeah the printer its self is good12:49
k31thbut its usb12:49
k31thand i cant get it working tbh i havent put that much time into it12:49
IIIEarsso is mine12:49
k31thyet...12:49
johnga 64 would be nice but I just need a cheap second pc really12:49
k31thyeah12:49
johng64 for my main pc in the future I think12:49
k31thdual cores will be out soon12:49
johngi kno they are so sweet!12:50
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k31thim goin for a 64 if i dont hold out for the amd dualcore12:50
k31thprobly be to expensive to start out12:50
johngyeh they r gona cost a bomb12:50
k31thi need a nvidia gfx card as well12:50
MattFlethere's my cheap pc, 350 plus a HDD and RAM, which I reused: http://matt-fletcher.co.uk/newpc/12:50
k31thati sux in nix with my experiance12:51
k31thim going to build a ubber linux box12:51
MattFletit runs ubuntu fine, as well as win mce 200512:51
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johngi have a 9600 xt12:51
k31thhumm wats that like12:51
k31thiv currently got a 9800 pro12:51
johngnot great for linux12:52
Juhazjohng, the pricing for the first amd dualcores was already released, there's no "probly" about it any more, cheapest one starts at $50012:52
johngJuhaz: ouch!12:52
k31thi see... i want to get cedega working properly for hl2 and css so i dont  have to bother with windows12:52
johngthats the dream k31th12:52
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k31thlol12:53
k31thyeah12:53
johngbut then the next great game comes along and bites u in the ass12:53
IIIEarseven if 500 seemed affordable the mobo is going to be pricey for awhile too.12:53
Juhazjohng, although they'll probably make slower and cheaper ones later, but in the beginning they don't want to compete with their own mainstream 64's12:53
k31thbrb going to the GNU chipshop12:53
johngdam u k31th!!!12:53
k31thjohng:  true12:53
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k31thi got hl2 running in it tho12:53
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johngwhats the speed like?12:54
JuhazIIIEars, the nice thing about amd dualcores is that they don't need a new mobo, if you've got older s-939 board it should be able to handle them with just a bios update12:54
IIIEarsGreaT! :)        - (oops gotta okay it with the wife. darn...)12:55
johngthanks Juhaz, I guess I could get a regular 64 to tide me over12:55
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upgrdman_yay im back12:55
upgrdman_ok12:55
upgrdman_um12:55
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johnghey MattFlet how is the freeview tuner in ur media box?12:56
upgrdman_i want to add another raid1 array, and loved how i could do it with the install cd... but unfortunatly, the reason why i didnt do it while installing was i can only have 4 ide devices, and i had four ide hdd's.... so one that was going to participate in the raid1 array had to be unplugged so i could plug in my cdrom drive...12:57
upgrdman_what should i do...12:57
upgrdman_is there a nice cli tool i can use within ubuntu?12:57
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k31thback01:01
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johngk31th did u get ur chips?01:02
Seveashow are your gfishnchips? :)01:02
yo2luxI want to use Mozilla Firefox 1.0.4 on Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary, exist a way to upgrade the existent Firefox 1.0.2 to 1.0.4 ?01:02
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k31thwell actually01:02
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k31thi got to wait 5 mins01:02
ram_einsteinhi all, I just switched to ubuntu01:02
k31thso i got a tuna roll and some cookies to tie me over for 5 mins01:02
johnghaah01:03
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ram_einsteinI have an nVidia chipset and Geforce 2 Genericonboard graphics card 32 MB RAM. Where can I get a driver?01:03
k31thi need to put on weight :p01:03
johngthats the starter01:03
ram_einstein*generic onboard01:03
forsaker8k6hi people...01:03
forsaker8k6i'm just upgrading to breezy... how much time will it take for me to regret?01:03
k31thlol01:03
johngwow ur keen forsaker8k601:04
Seveasforsaker8k6, about 4 days01:04
Seveasforsaker8k6, because then a massive toolchain transition starts01:04
johnglmao01:04
forsaker8k6Oo01:04
ram_einsteinnVidia chipset Geforce 2 Generic driver please...01:04
Seveasram_einstein, read the BinaryDriver page on the ubuntu wiki01:05
k31thubuntu will get wicked popular now esp with  drake only  doing 1 release a yr unless u pay01:05
forsaker8k6wow... i have only four days left to live01:05
ram_einsteinokay Seveas01:05
Seveasforsaker8k6, if you can stop the upgrade, please DO01:05
Seveasbreezy is NOT ready for the general public yet01:05
forsaker8k6well.. i could stop it01:05
forsaker8k6but it's stronger then me01:05
johngubuntu us the daddy lets face it k31th01:05
gooSeveas: sounds like Desbian Sid...01:05
yo2luxI want to use Mozilla Firefox 1.0.4 on Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary, exist a way to upgrade the existent Firefox 1.0.2 to 1.0.4 ?01:05
Seveasgoo, ubuntu is a stable SID01:06
Seveasyo2lux, just wait, it will be released within ubuntu01:06
forsaker8k6i am at 23 percent of fetching... don't know what to do....01:06
gooSeveas: yeah, and that's why I use Ubuntu, not Debian Sid as I used to before :)01:06
goo<- General public01:06
k31thdpes ubuntu actually have employees or is it community only01:06
k31thdoes*01:06
k31thlike gentoo and debian01:06
johngboth01:07
k31thkool01:07
Seveasubuntu is sponsored by canonical, they pay people to work on ubuntu01:07
k31ththey should employee me im 133701:07
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Seveasand they pay for the hosting and the free cd's01:07
johngno u will only be 1337 when u open gnuchips01:07
k31thall i ask for is a local chipshop01:07
Fator_Deefrom where Canonical gets money :-\01:07
k31thyup01:08
Fator_Deewhat it does?01:08
k31ththat free cd thing is awsome i might order some01:08
k31thtbh tho i wouldnt mind paying for a pressed cd01:08
k31thi feel kinda skanky getting it fr free lol01:08
liableforsaker8k6: you can stop it, change your sources back and all will be good01:08
SeveasFator_Dee, from tech support01:08
johngget a load and give them to ur mates01:08
Seveasforsaker8k6, please stop the upgrade :)01:09
forsaker8k6liable, i know i can stop it... but i don't know if I want to stop it01:09
forsaker8k6ok ok i'll do01:09
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k31thjohng: yeah good thinking01:09
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k31thill do it now...01:09
forsaker8k6uff... stopped :P01:09
Seveasforsaker8k6, just wait a few weeks until this hurdle is done01:09
karljpis there anywhere that is tracking progress on breezy?  the udu/breezygoals page is good, but is there anything else?01:09
forsaker8k6ok.. i'll do tnx for the support :D01:09
johngpeople are more likely to try it if u give them a pressed cd01:09
Seveaskarljp, #ubuntu-devel, ubuntu-devel mailing list...01:09
karljpseveas: fair enough, I guess I was after some nicely summarized thing like the breezygoals page, that I could just check and see new stuff :)01:10
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karljpI guess it's not that important that I want to browse mail archives :)01:10
Seveas:)01:10
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the_berzerkerhey everyone01:11
Seveashi01:11
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odysseyhi dr nic01:11
the_berzerkeri have a problem with my onboard via km400 vga01:11
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k31thhow many cds can i request?01:12
johngloads01:12
karljpas many as you want01:12
johngI got 5001:12
k31th50 went thru ok ?01:12
karljpit's just karma you're burning if you don't really need them01:12
Seveask31th, just be reasonable about 20-30 is normal01:12
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johngI am giving loads out at work tho Seveas01:12
geoffroy_hey dudes01:12
k31thas i work in a pc shop / contractor so i could probly dash out tonnes01:13
geoffroy_i've got a stupid question as usual01:13
the_berzerkerit is perfectly recognized but it doesn't support direc rendering01:13
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Seveasjohng, then order more :)01:13
BrianB04Hello all01:13
geoffroy_\\\\lala\E      /home/geoffroy/Desktop/E        smbfs   rw,user=Geoffroy,guest 001:13
johngheh01:13
geoffroy_in fstab, it doesn't work01:13
Seveas0 001:13
Seveasnot a single 001:13
k31ththing is i dont mind burning some if it helps them out01:13
geoffroy_yeah yeah i've put a double 001:13
k31thwats karma ?01:13
Seveasand in fstab it might have to be //lala/E01:13
the_berzerkercan anyone help?01:13
geoffroy_aah!01:13
johngI think u put it on ur chips01:13
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geoffroy_i try01:14
geoffroy_thx01:14
the_berzerkeranyone?01:14
forsaker8k6ask the_berzerker.. someone (not me, i'm not able to) will surely help you01:14
k31thbrb chipshop01:15
ram_einsteinI have a doubt: In synaptic, I enabled the following two repos: ubuntu 5.04 updates, ubuntu 5.04 security updates. Are they official? If so why weren't they enabled by default?01:15
k31thFFS!!!!!!!!!! windows update just rebooted my pc with ubuntu bootable downloading on01:15
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Seveasram_einstein, they are official01:15
k31thnormally it asks but no it just reboots01:15
k31ththanks bill01:16
johngk31th thats the magic of winxp01:16
k31ththanks again01:16
forsaker8k6k31th... never trust in mS things01:16
k31thits 200001:16
ram_einsteinSeveas, my second question then: why aren't they enabled by default?01:16
k31thgrrr01:16
Seveasram_einstein, ENOCLUE01:16
johngu using a dowload manager?01:16
ram_einsteinokay thanks Seveas01:16
odysseyk31th, it can sense that it is threatend01:17
johnglol01:17
forsaker8k6ok... gotta go... thank you again for saving my life (and morover my psychic sanity) :P01:17
the_berzerkercan anyone help with my problem? i have searched and searched google but i'm kinda lost01:17
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ram_einsteindoubt: what is my root password? I was never asked during the installation01:18
ram_einsteinhow do I reset/change it?01:18
forsaker8k6ram_einstein, is your users' password by default01:19
k31thodyssey: lol01:19
ram_einsteinno forsaker8k6 user's password is user's password01:19
mjrram_einstein, there is no root password by default, use sudo01:19
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k31thodyssey: its safe untill i can vpn thru nat on the fly in ubuntu01:19
ram_einsteinmjr, exactly, how do I su?01:19
ram_einsteinsu root that is01:19
D4vidram_einstein, i thinq you have to read faqs ;)01:19
mjrram_einstein, sudo -s with your user pass01:19
ram_einsteinD4vid, read it01:19
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ram_einstein:( can't I su root?01:20
gooram_einstein:  do like so:  sudo su -01:20
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the_berzerkerhey need some of your wisdom here01:20
D4vidram_einstein, it's what i done for the same question ;)01:20
mjrram_einstein, it's the same effect01:20
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gooram_einstein: then do   passwd01:20
gooram_einstein:  and it will all be normal again :)01:20
ram_einsteinokay goo one sec01:20
ram_einsteinthanks goo! It worked!01:21
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gooram_einstein: hooray :)01:21
ram_einsteinhoary goo, I'm on hoary01:21
RibsHow can I make Ubuntu x86_64 play .wma files?01:21
gooram_einstein: but get used to using sudo, it's really nice.01:22
gooram_einstein: lol :))01:22
ram_einstein:)01:22
ram_einsteinokay goo01:22
the_berzerkeri have a problem with my onboard via km400 vga01:23
the_berzerkerit is perfectly recognized but it doesn't support direct rendering01:23
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ram_einsteinI have another doubt: does /etc/apt/sources.list contain more repos than /etc/apt/sources.list_backup by default01:23
the_berzerkerand the via_dri.so module is missing01:23
ram_einsteinI'll just vim it...01:23
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the_berzerkerhelp...............01:24
the_berzerkeranyone?01:25
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daphello friends01:26
goldfishhi01:26
liablethe_berzerker: are you sure that even supports 3d?01:26
k31thhi01:26
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dapthis chat is beautiful!!! for ubuntu01:27
Seveas:)01:27
k31th?01:27
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k31ththe_berzerker: watsup?01:27
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Lumpio-Hi. I'm having a bit of trouble getting my wlan connection to automatically connect in Ubuntu. I'm using ndiswrapper (which loads and works fine) but I always need to manually run ifconfig wlan0 up and dhclient to get it to work.01:30
SeveasLumpio-, have you added it to your interfaces file?01:30
the_berzerkerthe card supports 3d01:31
the_berzerkerin windows it works fine01:31
the_berzerkerin suse 9.2 a friend made it work01:31
k31ththe_berzerker: wat card01:31
the_berzerkerbut i got rid of suse (at last:D)01:31
the_berzerkera via km40001:31
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the_berzerkerand i don't know how to configure it to enable dri01:31
k31thb in your xorg.conf01:32
ChoubakaLumpio-: hmm01:32
k31thin the modules load section01:32
Lumpio-Oh, heh, looks like I haven't.01:32
Lumpio-Kinda new to all this :\01:32
ChoubakaLumpio-: /etc/network/interfaces will solve your problem01:32
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Lumpio-Also, the GUI network configuration thing reports that it doesn't support the platform (it only started doing it a while ago)01:32
Choubakaadd these two lines there:01:33
Choubakaauto wlan001:33
Lumpio-But I'm gonna go modify the interfaces file now.01:33
Choubakaiface wlan0 inet dhcp01:33
Lumpio-Oh, thanks. Didn't even have to google01:33
Choubakathat ought to do it.01:33
Choubakaman interfaces if it doesn't :D01:33
k31thstarwars is out soon01:34
Lumpio-Do I need to reboot the whole system to see if it works?01:35
Choubakawell, yeah.01:35
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Choubakabut don't do it01:35
Choubaka:P01:35
Choubakathat would be silly.01:35
ChoubakaJust come back here if it doesn't work the next time you boot01:35
Lumpio-Heh, okay.01:36
Choubakaor hmm01:36
Lumpio-Thanks.01:36
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Choubakatry /etc/init.d/networking stop and /etc/init.d/networking start01:36
k31thim failing quite badly at getting this knoppix to boot in windoze01:36
Choubakait'll cut your net though.01:36
the_berzerkerhas anyone had a similar problem?01:36
Choubakak31th: knoppix boot to windows? :|01:37
Choubakawrd.01:37
BrianB04Hey all, I have kind of a stupid question. Currently in the LiveCD of Ubuntu. I have a SB Audigy 2 in the computer, and the live cd didn't detect it, is the Audigy not supported?01:37
Lumpio-Still here...01:37
Choubakawtf*01:37
k31thChoubaka: yes there is a modded version out that runs in a window in windows01:37
k31thso linux ina  window basicaly01:37
Choubakaahh, right.01:37
ChoubakaI guess it's coLinux or something?01:37
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Lumpio-Perfection.01:38
k31thbe nice if it worked01:38
ChoubakaAnd you're yet another Finn. o/01:38
syrenanyone using VLC for Ubuntu?01:39
Choubakayes.01:39
syrencan you help me?01:39
syrenehm01:39
BrianB04Granted, I could swap to the Live 5.1...but...01:39
Choubakasyren: What is the problem?01:39
syrenwhen i watch a movie..01:39
ChoubakaBrianB04: I thought SBs were quite nicely supported.01:39
syren"Always on Top" wont work :(01:39
syrenand sometimes the subtitles wont show..01:39
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Choubakaoh. Hmm01:40
BrianB04Chou: Well, it doesn't even show up in the volume system:) Nothing showing up.01:40
ChoubakaI have no experience of either of those features .P01:40
syrendamn! :P01:40
ChoubakaBut what do you mean with always on top?01:40
syreni mean like01:40
syrenright click on the picture and a menu comes up01:40
syrenthere you can choose always on top..01:41
BrianB04Let's do a search on the internet, see if this problem has come up before.01:41
syrenits good for.. like.. when you're surfing on the web..01:41
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syrenthen you can watch a movie at the same time :)01:41
Choubakait works for me :/01:41
Choubakabut hmm01:41
syrenwaaah.. :(01:41
Choubakaonly if I click the titlebar and select always on top from there01:42
syrengot version 0.8.101:42
Choubakasounds like a bug...01:42
syrenstill wont work :/01:42
Choubakadid you click on the titlebar? that which shows "VLC media player"01:42
syrenyeah..01:43
ChoubakaI'm using XFCE4 so maybe my WM handles stuff differently01:43
Choubakabut it works :/01:43
syrenhmm01:43
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syrenyou think a reinstall would work?01:43
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Choubakareinstall of what?01:43
syrenVLC01:43
ChoubakaI doubt it.01:43
syrenhmm :(01:44
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synicBrianB04: what version of the livecd?01:45
BrianB04synic: Brand new one...just downloaded it this morning.01:45
BrianB04synic: 5.04 Live.01:45
syrenand anyone know why i cant write an at? :/01:46
the_berzerkerk31th: i don't have direct rendering01:46
Choubakasyren: at?01:46
BrianB04synic: I would try insmod'ing the module that runs the SB cards, but I can't, for the life of me, remember the name.01:46
synicBrianB04: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-213582.html01:46
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ChoubakaBrianB04: emu10k or something01:47
Choubakamaybe snd_emu10k01:47
BrianB04emu10k1...actually, that's it.01:47
Choubakaok. :)01:47
synicisn't that just for sb live?01:47
Raptoid5.1 dont actually ?01:47
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Kamping_in_dozehow do i set X to listen for a remote server?01:48
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k31thdammit he left01:49
k31thi only went to get a cup of tea01:49
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BrianB04I just think it's cool that it managed to setup 1600x1024 @ 75 hz without the weird jumping in the corners that I constantly get in WIndows01:50
lesshasteis it possible to use cd-rw as big floppies in ubuntu. I.e. packet-writing etc.01:51
lesshasteor do you still have to use like reusable cd-r's ?01:52
syrendoes linux drivers for Audigy 2 ZS exist?01:52
BrianB04Need to install the nvidia drivers though, when I finally install to drive.01:52
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BrianB04Now, comes the reall tricky part, finding a very, very, very niche piece of software for Linux01:55
k31thi just made a 1337 coffee coaster from a cd burn gone wrong01:55
owenwill using the proper ati drivers improve normal performance? ie not games01:55
icebalmyay for coasters01:55
k31thwrote 1337 on it and used it for my mug01:55
k31thowen: no01:55
BrianB04k31th, AOL CDs make wonderful coasters01:55
k31thha ha ha01:56
k31thaol cds go in my bin01:56
oweny not01:56
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k31thi threw the last lot in the bin, went to some customers house had to get there modem and cd. wind blew the aol cd out of my hand and flew down the road !01:56
k31thmy friends found it quite amusing that i was ringing everyone trying to get hold a aol cd01:57
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owen?01:57
Kamping_in_dozeno it wont01:57
Kamping_in_dozewell, it will, but you wont notice01:57
k31thowen: it just gives you 3d accell01:57
owenoh..01:57
owenk01:57
Tiradorwhat repositories do I need for installing libdvdcss2 and other special packages?01:58
k31thits not worht the hassle unless your a gamer etc01:58
owenmarillat01:58
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k31thwat card do you have ?01:58
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owenradeon 925001:58
Choubakahmm01:58
k31thno experiance with that card tbh01:58
freeflyinganyone use e17?01:59
ChoubakaDoesn't that model have free drivers?01:59
oweni'd do most gaming in xp anyway though01:59
k31thonly done 9800 pro +01:59
k31thowen:  you need to change that :D01:59
ChoubakaI haven't used windows in more than a year :P01:59
Choubakaor well, I have. But not on my home computer.01:59
k31thyeah02:00
k31thwell i dont use it often now at home tbh02:00
k31thits got better apps for some stuff...02:00
k31thbut i normally get by02:00
k31thonly time i reboot to doze atm on my laptop is for vpn connections02:01
k31thand im trying to fix that now02:01
Choubakalinux has better basic tools.02:01
oweni don't play many games.. only now and then02:01
k31thyeah02:01
k31thsame here02:01
Choubakak31th: Linux can do VPN :|02:01
k31thall i play is HL202:01
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k31thChoubaka: i know it can02:01
owenonly tool i'd use in xp that isn't on linux is indesign02:01
k31thbut i want a nice easy gui02:01
Choubakaowen: Tried with WINE?)02:01
owencs version doesn't work02:02
Choubakak31th: hehe :P02:02
syrenyes at, like in mail adresses02:02
k31thi dont mind setting it up in cmd line but when im out and about i want a gui with all the ips and users pass saved02:02
Choubakaalt-2?02:02
k31thowen: i play hl2 css in linux02:02
syrendoesnt work..02:02
syren:/02:02
Choubakaalt Gr-2?02:02
Choubaka:p02:02
Choubaka@@@02:02
syreni cant! :P02:02
k31thhow do i install a .deb package ?02:03
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Choubakadpkg -i .deb02:03
k31thdpkg -i02:03
owenk31th, how.. cedega?02:03
k31thyeah02:03
k31ththanks02:03
syrendpkg -i "name of deb pakage"02:03
BrianB04Okay, maybe I'm stupid, but can you install from the Ubunut Live CD?02:03
k31thowen: yes cedega02:03
owenmight look into that02:03
SeveasBrianB04, not yet02:03
k31thowen worth a look02:03
ChoubakaBrianB04: yes. but it's not easy.02:03
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k31thran ok on my pc and it was ati02:03
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Seveaswith the next version it might be possible02:03
BrianB04Next version is out in October? Not that I'm gonna wait till then to install:)02:04
Choubakaeasily :P02:04
SeveasChoubaka, you mean the debootsrap dance? that's not for beginners :)02:04
ChoubakaHaha. Yes.02:04
ChoubakaI installed ubuntu using Debian Woody's install disc :P02:04
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lesshasteany ubuntu kernel support UDF/packet writing?02:04
Choubakashould02:04
k31thhumm02:04
Choubakayou may want to try modprobe udf02:05
k31this it ok to install kde libs running gnome for a package02:05
k31thits sposed to run in kde02:05
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k31thbut i dont like kde so much i presume if i install the libs02:05
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k31thit should work02:05
k31th?02:05
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Choubakait will02:05
syrennot anyone who knows what to do with the "AT" problem? :P02:05
k31thsnorted..02:05
Kamping_in_dozeyou will need to install some of kde02:05
paraxhi02:05
k31thill apt them02:05
kart_k31th: works well02:05
Kamping_in_dozehi parax02:05
Choubakawhat window manager or desktop damager you have doesn't matter.02:05
kart_kdebase, kdelibs02:05
BrianB04k31th, You get to play the "Guess the deb you need" game for that;)02:06
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Choubakawell, only if the .deb he installed doesn't know its dependencies.02:06
Choubakaand he can ldd /program/path/and/name to get the libraries it's linked against.02:06
BrianB04I like that game: ./configure "Missing blah" Okay, hunt hunt hunt, maybe it's in that, nope, wasn't there:)02:06
acshi dudes! are you aware about the problem with firefox in the last security update? Downloads from firefox doesn't work anymore02:06
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paraxanyone knows how to rename a lot of files/directories to utf8?02:07
mjrparax, convmv02:07
paraxmjr, thanks!02:08
HrdwrBoButf8-migration-tool - convert to UTF-8 locale including renaming of files02:08
k31thisunt it apt-get -f  install02:08
Seveas-f is for force02:08
Seveasuse that with caution02:08
paraxHrdwrBoB, that seems to be useful too, thanks!02:09
k31thi had to force it to get it to instal the kde libs etc02:09
k31thshould i can it its still downloading the file02:09
lesshasteany ubuntu kernel support UDF/packet writing?02:10
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Rudiwhat is console command that run "Add/remove Programs"?02:13
garnertrmorning all... :)02:13
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newcoderhi :)02:13
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wulfy814morning! (on the east coast anyway)02:13
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Bazziafternoon!02:14
Myrttiindeed02:14
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wulfy814I just did a fresh install of hoary with software RAID for my /home02:14
RudiPlease, what is console command that run "Add/remove Programs"?02:14
garnertrWell I guess it is all relative! :) har har02:14
newcoderactually  good night all lol02:14
wulfy814it stops in the boot process and I have to mount it manually02:14
wulfy814I just do "mount /dev/md0 /home" then "exit"02:14
wulfy814and everything seems to work fine02:14
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garnertrCan I ask a dweeb Ubuntu question?02:15
SeveasRudi, apt-get install02:15
Seveasor apt-get remove02:15
garnertrwhat is up w/ the "names" like Horay, Breezy?  Are they like revisions?02:15
Seveaswarty = codename for ubuntu 4.1002:15
wulfy814actually it appears to be working now - just did a full power down to be sure02:15
SeveasHoary = 5.0402:15
SeveasBreezy will be 5.1002:15
wulfy814I didn't do anything though the /etc/fstab looks good to me02:16
garnertrahhh major revisons, OK, thanks... I'm a nrebie, still attempting to learn02:16
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Seveasgarnertr, not major revisions02:16
Seveasversions :)02:16
garnertralso, my DVD Burner is not recognized at all and I think I've got something wrong w/ my /etc/fstab setup...02:16
RudiSeveas: No, no i require the "simple" dialog, from Applications-System Tools-Add/Remove Programs.02:16
garnertrthanks Seveas! :)02:16
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lesshastehello...any ubuntu kernel support UDF/packet writing?02:17
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BoD_SWATI used fglrxconfig to set up my ATI card. Now dual-screen works :). My problem however is that my DVI port is always used as the connector for my primary screen. This must be set to secondary, how can I do that?02:18
garnertrI'm still attempting to learn my way through Linux and Ubunutu.  So far, after playing around w/ several distros, I'm finding Ubuntu to be my most favorite (that and it recognized most of my hardware)02:18
Seveasrudi, that's gnome-app-install02:18
BoD_SWAThttp://pastebin.com/28314102:18
Seveasgarnertr, you are not the first to have this opinion :)02:18
RudiSeveas: It works, very thanks!02:18
AemaethBoD_SWAT, does fglrxconfig also help you setup dual monitors when the one on the dvi is composite?02:20
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dead^^hi, again. i didn't got the scandinavian letters working. does anyone know command to it. the characterset is ISO-8859-1 but i don't know how can i get i working =P02:21
dead^^- i02:21
garnertrNow if I can just convince my wife to let me wipe her windows machines, but alas, I'd have to install wine for the children to play their games har har02:21
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Seveasdead^^,  /charset ISO-8859-102:21
gooMy wife runs Ubuntu02:21
Seveasi thought :)02:21
BoD_SWATAemaeth, fglrxconfig indeed set up my dual-screen setup02:21
BoD_SWATbut I already had this problem before02:21
dead^^Seveas, thanks, again02:21
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AemaethBoD_SWAT, my second monitor is composite, so it will be interesting to see if ubuntu can handle that02:22
newcoderseems like ubuntu is very user friendly02:22
newcoder:)02:22
BoD_SWATAemaeth, http://pastebin.com/283141  --> My xorg.conf file02:22
RudiAnd how i disable minimizing animation in gnome? This is my eternal problem. ;-((02:22
Aemaethgarnertr, wine does not do games well02:22
garnertrcoming from my point of view, it is VERY friendly02:22
syrenhow can i get Wine running with steam?02:22
syrenand WoW and such games?02:22
garnertrahhh Thanks for the tip Aemaeth02:22
Aemaethwine = games02:22
newcoderfriendlier than FC? lol02:22
Aemaethsorry02:22
Aemaethwine != games02:22
Aemaethlook up transgaming02:22
garnertr;)02:23
Aemaethcedega02:23
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Aemaethand even then, its touch and go02:23
Aemaethlinux is just not a gaming os as predominantly like windows yet02:23
newcoderhow about comparing to XP02:23
newcoderlol02:23
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garnertrall my hardware is USB, and Ubuntu gets through that part w/ no problem, I have a 4-port hub that I use between my wife's/my comp and everything is good; just the bloody build in dr on the laptop isn't recognized for some odd reason02:23
BoD_SWATAemaeth, you'll have to TRY fgrlxconfig.... but plz backup your current xorg.conf file02:24
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Aemaethlol, as always02:24
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Seveasgarnertr, dr?02:24
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RudiHow i disable minimizing animation in gnome? This is my eternal problem. ;-((02:25
Aemaethi think he means hdd, yes?02:25
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garnertrdr=drive02:25
AmaranthRudi: What animation?02:25
RudiAmaranth: When i do minimize button on window top.02:26
garnertroops, I meant to say "built in dvd drive" sorry... :)02:26
RudiAmaranth: When i click on minimize button on window top.02:26
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AmaranthRudi: I wouldn't call that animation. :P02:27
AmaranthRudi: Why do you want to disable it?02:27
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mainercause its hard on the eyes,lol02:28
maineri want to too02:28
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garnertrwell, I must go for now, I'll be back in later tonight w/ more ????'s, thanks for the tips ppl, must go to my ship and play navy dweeb... cya...02:28
YuWeianybody here know how to save the change of font in xterm?02:29
Aemaethsave the session as defauly02:30
Aemaethdefault*02:30
mjrYuWei, you can set it in X resources02:30
syrenwhat torrent client do you guys use for linux?02:30
mjrsyren, bittornado02:30
YuWeiwhere can i find it?02:30
Aemaethor use konsole :) i find konsole easier02:30
syrengot a download link mjr?02:30
mjrsyren, "apt-get install"02:30
mjr(from universe)02:31
syrenah ;)02:31
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mjrYuWei, don't recall, I'd recommend gnome-terminal, requires less manual tuning02:31
SiRrUshello all02:31
syrendidnt know you could get it there..02:31
AmaranthI can't find anything in gconf to disable that animation. Sorry guys, looks like it's built in.02:31
Amaranthsyren: I use bittorrent 4.02:31
Amaranthsyren: Much better then bittornado02:32
syrenamaranth: "apt-get bittorrent 4"?02:32
maineryeah,i just checked it too,t.y.,anyway02:32
Amaranthnope, it's not in any repository02:32
BanditSiRrUs hey, you keep forgetting noone says hello here ;)02:32
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Amaranthhttp://www.bittorrent.com02:32
ivokshm...02:33
AmaranthThat remind me, I need to finish my modifications and packaging for that and get it into universe02:33
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synicubuntu comes with a pretty good bittorrent client...02:34
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syrenamaranth: how do you start the program?02:35
TaxManHow do I uninstall Ubuntu? Last time I tried I just formatted its partition but then when I booted it had problems. So in other words, how do I make the Windows partition the booting one so that GRUB isn't called upon?02:35
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Amaranthsyren: You'd better stick to bittornado until I finish getting this packaged.02:36
syrenamaranth: okay02:36
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lesshastehello...any ubuntu kernel support UDF/packet writing?02:37
zoddanHow do i replace the gnome loading splash ?02:37
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mirak5D5C5A5B5~502:37
Amaranthlesshaste: You mean something like /dev/net/tun?02:38
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unfnas02:38
SeveasAmaranth, no, it'c cd recording :)02:38
lesshasteAmaranth, for cd-rws02:38
Amaranthoh, ok02:38
Amaranthno idea02:38
Seveaszoddan, system->preferences->theme?02:38
zoddanSeveas: no02:39
zoddanSeveas: i mean the loading screen after you logged in02:39
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zoddanSeveas: with the blinking icons thats showing whats loading02:39
Seveaszoddan, find out which png/jpg file it is and replace it ;)02:39
Seveasit's somewhere under /usr/share/themes02:40
zoddandoh02:40
zoddancan i just change it with some program in gnome ?02:40
zoddanyou can do that in KDE02:40
zoddanso why not gnome then02:40
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Seveaszoddan, it's part of the theme. You should eihter use another theme or replace the imagefile02:40
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zoddani have changed the theme02:41
lesshasteSeveas, any idea?02:41
zoddanbut the splash has not been replaced02:41
syrenhow can i know what command i start bittornado-gui with?02:41
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zoddanSeveas: any other way ?02:42
Seveaslesshaste, no02:42
lesshaste:(02:42
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Seveaszoddan, not that i know of (but contrary to popular belief i'm not omniscient)02:42
zoddan dont whant that ugly logo at login :P02:43
zoddandunno how to replace it02:43
syrenyeah, how do i remove the ubuntu splash logo?02:43
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RudiAmaranth: When i click on minimize button, wireframed window is minimized to panel.02:43
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zoddan hum  /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/gnome-splash.png02:44
zoddan?02:44
AmaranthRudi: I know.02:44
AmaranthRudi: I don't know how to turn it off.02:44
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RudiAmaranth: Aha. Ok.02:44
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A-z-i-zhello02:45
A-z-i-zwhen i click on a link to download, it doesn't give me an option to where to save the file02:45
tim7575just installed ubuntu with no probs02:45
tim7575EXCEPT the display is all over the place.... any help?02:46
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tim7575had a similar problem with another distro and was told i needed to edit the displaymode lines in the root?02:46
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tim7575im a newbie02:46
SeveasA-z-i-z, use rightclick->save as02:46
lesshasteis software suspend available in ubuntu?02:46
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ivoksyes02:47
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Tiradorsomebody has xine installed. my xine is very slow with dvd playback02:48
Seveaszoddan, /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu*02:49
CarlKTirador - did you enable DMA on your DVD drive?02:49
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Aemaethi always had probs with xine...02:49
Aemaethoh, btw, ubuntu has apt-get, yes?02:49
Seveasyes02:50
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tim7575please02:50
TiradorCarlK, good point :)02:50
Aemaethgood02:50
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Aemaethi shall have to get used to it from urpmi :(02:50
CarlKTirador - #8 on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:51
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tim7575just installed ubuntu with no probs02:52
tim7575had a similar problem with another distro and was told i needed to edit the displaymode lines in the root?02:52
tim7575EXCEPT the display is all over the place.... any help?02:52
bluurpiemeaning with apt-get, we don need any other compiler to install softwares?02:53
Seveasindeed02:53
Aemaeththe refresh rate is wrong02:53
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Seveasbluurpie, and if you don't like the command line, there's synaptic02:53
tim7575ok how do i fix it?02:54
jon21My fresh ubuntu 5.04 install won't boot...02:54
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Adrosscan anyone access google news?02:56
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BrianB04Yea, the switch from the Audigy 2 to the 5.1 worked02:56
bluurpieOh yeah seveas02:56
bluurpiei read that too02:56
bluurpiethanks :)02:57
medicationi can Adross02:57
BrianB04So, I am now downloading the install CD, gonna burn it, and install it:)02:57
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=== medication can't remeber who helped him here two days ago..
tim7575Adross: i can access it02:58
medicationjust wanted to say thanks!02:58
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Adrosshmm, odd02:58
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medicationAdross: is it only Google news that you can't reach?02:59
Adrossall that i've noticed03:00
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the_berzerkerhey guys03:00
bluurpieoh yeah guys03:00
bluurpiei had my ubuntu installed the 2nd time03:00
bluurpieand my thumbdrive doesn't show up03:00
the_berzerkerhow can i put two mounted partitions to the computer and places???03:00
bluurpieit was detected but the drive couldn't be accessed unlike the 1st installation i had..anyone encountered that?03:01
Seveasthe_berzerker, mount them with the user option03:01
the_berzerkerseveas, u mean in fstab?03:01
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Seveasyes the_berzerker03:02
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the_berzerkerseveas, i just put user in the options right?03:02
MattFletjohng: regarding my freeview tuner card, i've never tried to get it working under linux. i might have a go tonight when i get home and let you know how i get on03:02
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Seveasthe_berzerker, yes :)03:03
rol1hello03:03
the_berzerkerthnx mate;-)03:03
rol1does anyone knopw when will be ready any emule client package?03:03
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rol1both amule an xmule seem broken for too much time..03:04
tfarhi03:04
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the_berzerkerseveas, they show up but not with the labels i put in fstab03:04
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isieobluurpie: i got the same problem but.. i have no idea how to fix it X_X03:05
tfarhow do i get access to my music on a ntfs partition?03:05
kellinaidanAny chance anyone is going to be able to get me to running ubuntu on a tv-out for an nVidia card?03:05
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rol1tfar03:06
rol1u have to have yr ntfs paRTIOTION MOUNTED03:06
rol1ups03:06
rol1sorry the caps03:06
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tfarroll: how do i do this?03:07
Seveasthe_berzerker, there was someone with that problem yesterday too03:07
Seveaswe couldn;t find a solution, sorry03:07
rol1search for "windows partitions" in the forum03:07
bluurpieisieo: u had that prob too? gosh...03:07
Seveastfar, mount -t ntfs /dev/yourdisk /your/mountpoint03:07
tfarok03:07
rol1in the wiki03:07
isieoX_X03:08
rol1but it's better if u have itin yr fstab03:08
mainerit may be mounted ro=readonly,should be rw=read/write03:08
tfari'm pretty new in linux03:08
Quazionis there a way to switch languages ?03:08
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tim7575i have a display problem with ubuntu after first install, ive ctrl alt f1'd out to [ryan@ryan ~1] .. hwre to from now?03:08
mainerif you want to write dta to that part,if not,ro is good03:09
tronddHi! I need to disable speedstep on my laptop, how can I do this in ubuntu?03:09
A-z-i-zwhat's the most famous open source java compiler ?03:09
hacWhat is the best script for Xchat?03:09
mainerxlack    http://xlack.tk03:09
mainerfor hac03:09
Seveasmainer, you cannot write to ntfs...03:10
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hacmainer: thx03:10
maineryou can with captiventfs,althought there have been known probs03:10
the_berzerkerseveas, do u know the solution?03:10
Aemaethxlack is good03:10
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Aemaethnot yet sure on some of the commands on it yet though :(03:11
Seveastrondd, by putting centrino_speedstep in the hotplug blacklist03:11
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wulfy814new question - Open Office 2.0 - the fonts in writer look terrible compared to 1.14 how do I fix?03:11
Seveaswulfy814, OOo 2.0 isn't out yet03:12
Seveasonly betas03:12
Aemaethwell he was obviously reffering to the beta then?03:12
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nijanafter upgrading to hoary i have serious audio problem, i cannot play mo3..03:13
nijanmp3, i installed all the plugin necessary and amarok doesn't let me change engine more03:13
nijani can just use vlc but the audio is really low03:14
synicwhat hard drive mp3 players are known to work with linux?03:14
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nijanipod03:14
liablesynic: what do you mean?03:15
syrenanyone know if you can assign a command to like.. the F2 button for an example?03:15
Aemaethanything that will recognise as an external drive in windows should run in linux fine03:15
Aemaethits only funky ones that need special things03:15
nijansyren man sysctl.conf03:15
synicAemaeth: heh, I don't have windows installed to be trying that out.03:15
liablesyren: yah, xmodmap, google it03:16
synicso iPods are known to work then...03:16
syrenokay :)03:16
tim7575i have a display problem with ubuntu after first install, ive ctrl+alt+f1'd out to [ryan@ryan ~1] .. where to from now?03:16
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Aemaethsynic....03:16
Seveas[alt] [F7]  gives you the GUI back03:16
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Aemaethi was essentially reffering to 99% of mp3 players03:16
synicAemaeth: I think you're wrong there.03:17
synicmost players don't support mass storage03:17
synichard drive players anyway.03:17
tfarthx & cu03:17
Aemaethwhat country are you from?03:17
Aemaethcos most of them work like that here03:17
synicthe USA.03:18
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tim7575seveas: yeh i know that, i need to edit the display depth part of some config file?03:18
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syniccreative nomads don't support mass storage, neither do the rio karmas, nor the panasonic one03:18
Seveastim7575, probably /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:18
DunkMasterhello03:18
DunkMasteris it ok to try ubuntu on 200MMX machine?03:18
nijanno03:19
tim7575Seveas: yep thats the one.. care to guide me through?03:19
thenukeDunkMaster: yes03:19
Seveasit'll be quite slow DunkMaster03:19
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thenukeDunkMaster: but not with the gnome03:19
DunkMasterslower than mandrake 10.0?03:19
Seveastim7575, i would if i had experience in editing xorg configs03:19
DunkMasterIceWM?03:19
tim7575anyone else?03:19
Aemaethsynic, then dont buy one of them?03:19
thenukeDunkMaster: you need to use some lightweight windowmanager instead of gnome03:19
DunkMasterlike IceWM or Fluxbox?03:19
Seveasindeed03:20
synicAemaeth: ok, so besides the iPod, name one that does support mass storage.  _then_ you would be answering my original question.03:20
DunkMasterdo they come with the CD?03:20
AemaethiRiver h34003:20
Seveasnope DunkMaster03:20
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DunkMasterwell, i was able to run mdk with kde03:20
DunkMaster:P03:20
synicAemaeth: thank you.03:21
tim7575Seveas said: tim7575, i would if i had experience in editing xorg configs <---- anyone else care to help a newbie?03:21
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DunkMasterthen ill be able to do it with gnome03:21
Aemaethcreative muvo tx fm (although its a flash drive)03:21
DunkMasterthank you03:21
Aemaethicky... kde03:21
DunkMasterIceWM atl03:21
DunkMaster*atm03:21
mainertim7575: use xorgconfig from cli as root03:21
Aemaethsynic, i wouldnt reccomend buying those iriver ones though03:21
synicno?03:21
kellinaidanAny thoughts on tv-out on ubuntu?03:21
Aemaeththey arent very good, and are very expensive03:22
Aemaethipods are better imho03:22
tim7575mainer: im a noob.....?03:22
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Seveastim7575, if you do that, backup your xorg.conf first...03:22
azizhow do i play mp3 on Ubuntu ? totem can't play them03:23
mainertim7575: it's interactive if you have your system specs its practically newb_proof03:23
Seveasaziz, install either totem-xine or gstreamer0.8-mad03:23
tim7575well i dont know what cli is to begin with03:23
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DunkMasterubuntu is on one CD?03:23
DunkMasteram i right?03:24
mainertim7575: in root terminal type xorgconfig,then answer questions03:24
mainerdunkmaster-yes03:24
DunkMasterok03:24
azizwhat about Real Player files ?03:24
Aemaethmainer, can xorgconfig setup dual monitors?03:24
Aemaetheg, how powerfull is it?03:24
Aemaethhouse pet?03:25
Aemaethlol03:25
mainernot sure,but try it at least,be easier than manually editing xorg.conf if youre new03:25
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Aemaethi have tried modding xorg.conf before in mdk10.103:25
DunkMasteryea03:25
Aemaethdidnt get it to work03:25
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DunkMasterand,?03:26
DunkMasteryou messed it up?03:26
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Aemaethnot sure, it just didnt work03:26
Aemaetheg, no change03:26
mainerwww.ubuntuguide,org03:26
DunkMasterok03:26
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Aemaethmy main issue is that my second monitor is composite, and hence the video card has to be told to sync on green. which i am unsure of03:26
kellinaidanAemaeth - are you running tv-out? I want to - I don't have a primary monitor. Just the tv.03:27
Aemaethno03:27
Aemaethdvi converter to vga, which converts to some mad mindfuck plug, which goes into my 21" sun monitor03:27
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fsapohi.. anyone here have some kind of experience in video encoding?03:29
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DunkMasterwhat is breezy?03:29
Seveasthe next version of ubuntu03:29
fsapoDunkMaster, next ubuntu version..03:30
tim7575that didnt work!03:30
tronddSeveas: I tried blacklisting the speedstep-modules, but they are still loaded...03:30
DunkMasterokay03:30
azizi get the message "Audio codec 'MPEG 2 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled" when i try to play mp3 on Totem .. I installed totem-xine03:30
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fsapoanyone here could help me think in a video resize stuff? i m stuck with it :(03:31
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Fator_Deeaziz: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad ?03:31
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Fator_Deeaziz: it's in universe repository03:32
azizI just did ...03:32
azizokay.. it is playing mp3s now03:32
deFryskuse rhythmbox for playing mp3`s03:32
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Fator_Deeor xmms or bmp or muine or (insert player X)03:33
azizokay. what about .rm files ? when i use totem to play them i get "Audio codec 'Sipro' is not handled"03:34
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Fator_DeeI think there's something regarding that on ubuntuguide.org03:34
fsapoaziz, www.ubuntuguide.org03:34
fsapoaziz, search for real media03:34
deFryskhttp://www.real.com/player/?src=realplayer03:35
MuStRrythmbox isn't too good03:35
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MuStRunless I am missing the option where it lets you choose the output driver03:35
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MuStRor whatever it's called03:36
MuStRie: alsa03:36
seliniumhi all, I have just accidently hit the delete button whilst trying to do an archive i need those files! I was running nautilus under sudo. Where is the root trash bin?03:36
MuStRselenium, go to a terminal03:36
MuStRtype sudo nautilus03:36
seliniumk03:36
MuStRpress ctrl+h03:36
DunkMasterterminal is your friend03:36
MuStRyou should be in the /root dir03:36
MuStRlook for a folder called .Trash03:37
geoffroy_hey, is there anybody who knows how to manage wifi with ubuntu ?03:37
MuStRyour files should be thar03:37
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rick_what kind of wifi card?03:38
dcravenOT: Who is the/an HTML dude here?03:38
geoffroy_atheros chipset03:38
geoffroy_my card is recognized03:39
Seveasdcraven, /me :)03:39
tim7575xorgconfig failed to solve my problem03:39
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Seveasgeoffroy_, i have a madwifi, works like a charm :)03:39
rick_I found a wiki on ubuntu (I think)03:39
geoffroy_yeah Seveas, but it's a wpa network03:40
rick_if you go to system -> administration -> networking is your card there?03:40
geoffroy_yeah03:40
dcravenSeveas: Do you know how to prevent a newline from being inserted? As in, if my HTML doc has the words "Mr. Seveas", I *never* want a newline between those words.03:40
geoffroy_it's here, i can configure it03:40
Seveasgeoffroy_, for me too :)03:40
geoffroy_oh ?03:40
geoffroy_i'm sure you can help me again so03:40
geoffroy_i did a script03:40
Seveasdcraven, replace the spaces between Mr. and Seveas with &nbsp;03:40
geoffroy_actually, I borrowed a script03:40
dcravenSeveas: In LaTeX, it would be a ~ for example.03:40
dcravenSeveas: You da man, sorry for going OT :)03:41
Seveasgeoffroy_, wasn't that my script (yesterday?)03:41
geoffroy_i wonder....!03:41
tim7575ok i gtg.. hopefull tomorow there will be someone to help me03:41
geoffroy_i think it was yours03:41
Seveaslol :)03:41
geoffroy_with root/ssidselect ?03:41
Seveasyeah!03:42
tronddSorry, but I am no used to ubuntu/debian: How can I disable a service from being started?03:42
geoffroy_hmmmm03:42
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rick_remove the script from /etc/rc3.d03:42
fsapoman.. resizing video almost made my brain burn O.o03:42
Seveasrick_, that won't work03:42
crimsuntrondd: man update-rc.d03:43
Seveastrondd, it's not a nice way, but the easiest is chmod -x /etc/init.d/SERVICENAME03:43
crimsunrick_: ubuntu, like debian, uses runlevel 2 by default. no runlevel games.03:43
Seveascrimsun, update-rc.d is no good to03:43
Seveaswill be reset on updates03:43
tronddcrimsun: thanks (I am switching from gentoo, so I am a bit confused... :) )03:43
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crimsunSeveas: yeah, that's being worked on for breezy03:44
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sgmihaihow do i change the default window manager?03:44
crimsunSeveas: (in terms of the services manager)03:44
ositysnyone good with software raid?03:44
or1ondoes anyone have any experience with gdesklets under ubuntu hoary?03:45
Seveasi have, or1on03:45
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or1onwell, here's the problem:03:45
seliniumMuStR: chhers for your help!03:46
or1onI just installed it thru apt03:46
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or1ongdesklets and gdesklets-data03:46
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geoffroy_erm03:46
geoffroy_sorry03:46
or1onbut when I try to open a .display-file, the gdesklets-shell just opens and stays empty03:46
or1onnothing hapens03:46
tfarhow do i install software, which isn't listed in synaptic?03:46
or1on*happens*03:46
jeroen_tfar: easiest way: get a *.deb file03:47
geoffroy_fucking wpa tkip network03:47
geoffroy_i wonder why it doesn't work03:47
dataw0lf|wdpkg -i <deb file>03:47
geoffroy_i have to go, ciao03:47
dataw0lf|wor03:47
dataw0lf|w./configure03:47
dataw0lf|wmake install03:47
dataw0lf|wor03:47
Seveasor1on, , and if you try to enable it from within gdesklets?03:47
dataw0lf|w./<install script>03:47
jeroen_or sh ./<install script>03:47
Seveastfar, the short answer is: it depends on what you want to install :)03:48
MuStRselinium: glad I was able to help03:48
dataw0lf|wI'd assume someone was already in the default shell, jeroen_03:48
Seveastfar, and if you tell us what you want to install, we can be of more help :)03:48
tronddcrimsun: sorry but I don't get it.. Should I delete the file from /etc/init.d and run update-rc.d?03:48
Seveastrondd, no, don't touch update-rc.d03:48
tfarSeveas,  i want to install Psi, a jabber client.03:48
osityno raid experts in today?03:48
Seveastrondd, just chmod -x the file in init.d03:49
or1onSeveas: the only thing I can do from the shell is: use the menu to install a package, and click on the 2 buttons (but even then nothing happens)03:49
MuStRtfar: are there instructions included with the client?03:49
tronddSeveas: thanks, will do that...03:49
or1onSeveas: the list above the buttons is empty also03:49
Seveastfar, psi is in the repositories03:49
MuStRthere should be.03:49
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MuStRooh rochester03:49
Seveastfar, you have to enable universe (read the AddingRepositoriesHowto) on the wiki03:49
Seveasand than you can use synaptic03:50
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Seveastrondd, that's odd03:50
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alekandrafternoon all!03:51
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Seveastrondd, you dant have a list of desklets in the left part of the shell>03:51
alekandranyone know how to set gdm to default display manager from xdm ?03:51
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MuStRlol03:52
MuStRuninstall xdm :-P03:52
crimsunalekandr: it should be by default03:52
alekandrdcraven: html is easy.. just learn from various sources.. php is the real bastard!03:52
MuStRthat's probably not the correct way to do it, but that's what I did03:52
MuStR...with kdm03:52
Seveasphp is easy too..03:52
jeroen_dcraven: html with tables sucks ;)03:52
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MuStRjust about every programming language is "easy" if you're comparing it to assembly.03:53
dcravenalekandr: Well html is simple, but it's a drag when you are trying to do something off the beaten path and you can't accomplish it.. hehe03:53
MuStRif you think what you're doing is hard, take a look at asm03:53
MuStR:p03:53
alekandrcrimsun: it was.. until i apt-get installed fluxbox, and then gdm wouldnt start. so i installed xdm, and set it too default.. i cant seem to find the config file. and rc-update is not a know process otherwise id have done it that way03:53
Seveasdcraven, www.w3schools.com has some great tutorials03:53
alekandrdcraven: lol.. i get ya03:53
dcravenI'm trying to make an image and a word to appear together, but never with a newline between them.03:53
crimsunalekandr: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager03:54
jeroen_you mean with a caption, dcraven?03:54
Seveas<img src="..." alt="..." />&nbsp;TheWord03:54
dcravenSeveas: Yeah, w3schools has been a lot of help with CSS.03:54
MuStRcrimsun: while you're at it, how can I choose my default window manager?03:54
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dcravenSeveas: That doesn't work. I just tried that.03:54
or1onis it possible to delete folders that still contain files from the shell? (rm doesn't work)03:54
Seveasdcraven, make sure there are *NO* spaces between > and &nbsp03:55
alekandrcrimsun: /usr/bin/X11/xdm03:55
jeroen_dcraven: if you mean with caption, I know a solution03:55
rick_try rm -rf03:55
Seveasand between &nbsp; and theword03:55
rick_but be careful when using it03:55
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crimsunalekandr: change that to /usr/bin/gdm03:55
alekandrcrimsun: thanks mate!03:55
dcravenjeroen_: No, not a caption. On the same line like "<image>MyWord".03:55
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crimsunalekandr: by using dpkg-reconfigure gdm03:55
alekandrok03:55
crimsunMuStR: there are a number of gconf keys you need to set03:55
Seveasor1on, rm -r (r means recursive) is the way. but it's dangerous so be careful :)03:56
or1onright, just found it in the man. Thx anyway rick_03:56
crimsunMuStR: a number of people have tackled this on the wiki03:56
MuStRrgr, ty03:56
dcravenSeveas: I should add that the 'word' is actually an href.03:56
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alekandrcrimsun: done.. all sorted. thanks mate03:56
alekandrdcraven: alt tag?03:56
Seveas<img >&nbsp<a href>yaddaydda</a>03:57
Seveasjust make sure there are no spaces03:57
Seveasand that &nbsp is spelt &nbsp;03:57
dcravenSeveas: I tried that. I'll experiment some more since you seem so sure it should work. :)03:57
alekandr<img src="source" alt=""> text here03:57
Seveasdcraven, it's been an important part of one of my pages :)(03:58
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admxHello, Does anyone know of any linux programs like DVDShrink? I have heard of DVDRip but not sure if it will also shrink dvd sizes.03:58
tronddSeveas: ?03:58
or1onSeveas: found it! it was an installation fault. After fully deleting the folder and reinstalling it's a go :-p03:58
HrdwrBoBadmx: dvdrip makes divxs (and friends)03:58
HrdwrBoBnot DVDs03:59
Seveastrondd, ?03:59
HrdwrBoBas far as I'm aware such a program does not exist03:59
alekandrirssi-text is goddly!03:59
HrdwrBoByes it is :)03:59
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wdhalekandr, we all know that :)03:59
admxOh, so I guess vmware will be needed for that program still.  Thz04:00
tronddSeveas: you asked me something, but I didn't get it. Nevermind...04:00
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tronddDoes anyone here use urxvt?04:00
tronddMy settings aren't reconized... Does ubuntu read .Xdefaults or .Xresources on startup?04:00
snoop_anyone know how to configure a wireless card with a broadcom chipset?04:00
crimsuntrondd: the latter04:01
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Seveassnoop_, you need ndiswrapper for that04:01
Seveassnoop_, there is a howto on the wiki04:01
snoop_Seveas, i tired to use that but it didnt work...04:02
dcravenSeveas: '<img src="link_icon.png" />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.pygtk.org">PyGTK</a>' doesn't work.04:02
dcravenBugger.04:02
snoop_Seveas, i set up ndiswrapper like in the howto and it just doesnt work...04:02
dcravenActually, ignore me.. This is too OT.04:02
Seveassnoop_, can you paste the output of ndiswrapper -l please?04:02
snoop_Seveas, Installed ndis drivers:04:03
snoop_bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present04:03
=== dcraven thanks for the help anyways.
Seveasseems to work04:03
alekandri was lucky when it came to wireless cards and ndiswrapper.. as i didnt need it.. i have a ralink rt2500 chipset.. 100kb download. 5secs config. and it all set up04:03
Seveassnoop_, can you paste the output if iwconfig wlan0 on ubuntu.pastebin.com please04:03
snoop_Seveas, it doesnt find my network (the essis)04:04
Seveassnoop_, does your net have a hidden essid?04:04
snoop_yes04:04
Seveasndiswrapper can't handle those...04:04
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Seveasso you need to unhide it for ndiswrapper to work...04:04
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snoop_Seveas, i tried that last night, some guys were trying to help, but it didnt read it for some reason04:05
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Seveassnoop_, can you please make the essid visible again and run iwlist wlan0 scan04:05
DunkMasterok, ill be back tomorrow on ubuntu04:06
DunkMasterc ya all04:06
Seveasand paste the output of that on ubuntu.pastebin.com04:06
snoop_pasted04:06
Seveasthat's iwconfig :)04:06
Seveasnot iwlist wlan0 scan04:06
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snoop_aye doing it now..04:07
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Seveashmm04:08
Seveassudo iwlist wlan0 scan04:08
Seveasforgot the sudo part :)04:08
snoop_says no scan results04:09
Seveasand you're sure that the essid is not hidden now?04:09
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trygvebwrecieved my ubuntu cds today :D04:09
snoop_i turned it on to ssid broadcast04:10
da_bon_boni wont recive my ubuntu cds till late june :)04:10
trygvebwthey're nice04:10
trygvebwah :)04:10
da_bon_bontrygvebw: can u PLZ gimme a pic of the cd art ?04:10
Seveassnoop_, then i'm out of options too, sorry :S04:10
trygvebwsure04:10
Seveasone more thing: which card is it?04:10
snoop_Seveas, linksys wmp54g04:11
Seveashmm, did you use the winxp or win2k driver?04:11
snoop_Seveas, yes04:11
Seveaswhich one? ;)04:11
snoop_Seveas, took the inf file off the cd04:11
snoop_bcmwl5.inf04:11
da_bon_bontrygvebw: thnx04:11
trygvebwda_bon_bon, http://img151.echo.cx/my.php?image=000030jz.jpg04:12
Seveasyeah ok, but the winxp driver sometimes has problems , the win2k hasn't04:12
trygvebwBad picture, but you get an idea. ;)04:12
snoop_Seveas, hmm.....where would i find the 2K drivers then..04:12
Seveassnoop_, linksys website?04:12
snoop_Seveas,  yes ;)04:13
Seveastrygvebw, cool :)04:13
trygvebwyeah04:13
da_bon_bontrygvebw: atleast made sure that they are not like warty :)04:16
da_bon_bonthnx, trygvebw04:16
da_bon_bonbye04:16
da_bon_bonbye all04:16
da_bon_bonbye, trygvebw04:16
trygvebwbye04:16
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snoop_Seveas, how do i remove the old driver?04:17
Seveasndiswrapper -r maybe?04:17
Seveaslook in /etc/ndiswrapper and remove the files too..04:17
snoop_ok04:17
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berkesevening folks. i somehow managed to remove myself fron the sudoers list.04:25
trygvebwoh04:25
berkesanyone got a trick to add myself again?04:25
trygvebwstart your PC in "init=/bin/bash" mode04:26
trygvebwthen add yourself to /etc/sudoers04:26
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crimsunmake sure you remount / rw first, and make sure you sync after saving and exiting.04:27
berkeshmm. yeqa, i feared rebooting would be nessecary.04:27
snoop_Seveas, tried that too...still nothing..04:27
tommi^Hi. I'm about to buy a webcam and I haven't found a table or somekind of top ten list of best supported devices. Could you help me out?04:27
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berkesi thought of rebooting with a live CD actually. however, thanks04:27
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trygvebwtommi^, see http://www.video4linux.net/04:28
trygvebwand http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php04:28
tommi^trygvebw, thanks04:28
trygvebwand http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/index.shtml04:28
trygvebwnp :)04:28
crimsunberkes: sure, that would suffice04:28
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evilmegamanHi, is there any new ubuntu optimized kernels newer than the one that comes with hoary?04:30
derJuniorbreezy?04:30
crimsunevilmegaman: in breezy, yes04:30
evilmegamanoh04:30
crimsun(see the topic)04:30
derJunior:-)04:31
evilmegamanI don't want to use breezy crimsun ;)04:31
evilmegamanI am happy where I am04:31
crimsunI think you just answered your own question ;)04:31
evilmegamanOh04:32
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evilmegamanAnyone want to help me figure out when I build my custom kernel-image, I get error2 after a while?04:32
crimsuna compile error?04:33
evilmegamanI guess04:33
evilmegamanIt happened yesterday ;)04:33
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Aemaethnight all04:35
snoop_Seveas, thanks anyways04:35
snoop_later all..04:35
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stromaxhi there04:37
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stromaxi'm looking for an OS X like icon zoom bar.. any ideas?04:37
stromaxi know there's one for kde...04:37
sigstromax: I got some sshots04:38
sigyou might like my setup04:38
Riddellstromax: kooldock04:38
stromaxsig: show me :)04:38
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sighttp://harrisplace.net/screenshots/04:38
StRhi all...04:38
Seveaswoooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooo04:38
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StRI have beeezy, but I'm trying to upgrade my packages...04:38
StRand I got this error:     libdbus-1-1: Conflicts: dbus-1 but 0.23.4-0ubuntu3 is to be installed04:38
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ChaoticCoyoteHow good is ubuntu with older hardware? Has anyone tried it on, say, a 400MHz Celeron laptop with 128M RAM?04:39
stromaxsig: nice.. so you run kde on ubuntu?04:39
sigstromax: this isn't KDE!04:39
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sigthis is gnome dude04:39
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sigall those sshots are gnome!!!04:39
stromaxsig: err.. heh04:39
SeveasStR, DON'T use breezy yet04:39
Seveasit's broken04:39
sigbleh on KDE04:39
sighehe04:39
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Seveasdbus now, everything will be broken in a weel04:39
stromaxsig: hehei just spotted a 'k' ;)04:39
StRSeveas: yes.. I see it now...04:40
stromaxsig: is there a ubuntu / .deb package for kooldock?04:40
sigstromax: btw, that little screenshots gallery was created with "gThumb"04:40
sig:)04:40
stromaxhehe04:40
sigstromax: not sure, do a: apt-cache search kookdock04:41
sigheh04:41
sigor kooldock I mean04:41
stromaxi did.. nothing in universe04:41
StRSeveas: what can I do to fix my packages?04:41
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SeveasStR, reinstall hoary...04:43
Ainvardoes the network profiles not work correctly in ubuntu 5.04?04:43
AinvarI have to keep recreating one for work when I want to use static and then I have tried to make two for home. One for wireless and then one for wired04:44
IcemanV9ChaoticCoyote: mine is running on 128Mb 850Mhz Duron laptop04:44
ChaoticCoyoteIcemanV9: How'd ubuntu do at detecting hardware?04:45
IcemanV9ChaoticCoyote: it's running just fine, but little slow when u multitaking :)04:45
IcemanV9ChaoticCoyote: excellent.04:45
ChaoticCoyoteIcemanV9: Good. I need to convert my wife's old laptop from a broken Mandrak install. Ubuntu looks like my best best04:46
ChaoticCoyote"best bet"04:46
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IcemanV9ChaoticCoyote: usually i tried with livecd to see if it works before i waste my time. AND, it does work! so i installed it. :)04:46
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velenoanyone is safely using04:47
velenoa joybook 7000 series (BenQ) laptop with ubuntu ?04:47
sigveleno: I'm using: a Sony Vaio PCG-FRV37 with ubuntu perfectly....04:48
IcemanV9ChaoticCoyote: i did not try another WMs to improve the performance on 128Mb laptop yet04:48
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IcemanV9ChaoticCoyote: so i can multitasking smoothly04:48
ChaoticCoyoteIcemanV9: I've got both ubuntu and kubuntu ISOs. I prfer KDE personally, but Gnome may be better from a resource standpoint04:48
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resiakXFce4!04:49
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IcemanV9ChaoticCoyote: play with it, then settle on one that you think it's the best04:49
men1fluxbox04:50
IcemanV9twm!!04:50
SeveasIcemanV9, ooh nice :)04:50
ChaoticCoyoteDoes ubuntu gove choices other than Gnome or KDE? XFCE might be the best choice04:51
SeveasChaoticCoyote, not by default but there are people working on XFCE and ICE04:51
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resiakChaoticCoyote: If you enable Universe and Multiverse, then yes.04:51
men1fetch the other desktops then uninstall gnome04:51
IcemanV9Seveas: heh very fast response on 128Mb laptop :)04:51
men1there's always using mini x server04:52
sigIcemanV9: plan9 desktop :)04:52
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sigI used that for a while on one of my FreeBSd machines04:52
men1no desktop is even better04:52
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Angelina-joliekikoo la room04:53
SeveasIcemanV9, i used twm on old sun sparc4 machines :)04:53
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reagleBRKLNi'm have a problem with a mailbox lock file, is there a better channel to ask on?04:54
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SeveasreagleBRKLN, try here :)04:55
jeroen_reagleBRKLN, probably not04:55
reagleBRKLNi use fetchmail to grab pop msgs, is filtered by a procmailrc (including bogofilter), and placed in an mbox where kmail grabs it04:55
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reagleBRKLNin the past few months, everything has been complaining about a lockfile04:56
reagleBRKLNon /home/reagle/Mail/q/inbox04:56
velenosig: i'm glad of it, but i'm searching some first-person impression on that one. thanks anyway!04:56
reagleBRKLN(that's the mbox where the results go and kmail grabs it from)04:56
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SeveasreagleBRKLN, which program in the chain is complaining and what is the exact message?04:57
reagleBRKLNmy only guess is that the file is on an encfs (fuse) file system, but all these processes run as me I think04:57
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reagleBRKLNprocmail: Lock failure on "inbox.lock"04:57
DutchHi all.. Just looking for a headsup before installing Hoary on an old laptop. DellLatitude CP, with a CS3237 Soundchip. Not being able to autoconfigure it with the LiveCD..04:57
reagleBRKLNmutt: Lock count exceeded, remove lock for inbox? ([yes] /no):04:57
reagleBRKLNand i just turned it off in kmail since it wouldn't work04:58
DutchAny advice for the actual install.. ? It's an ISA chip, so the automatic Alsa config can't find it.04:58
Seveaswhat happens if you remove the lock?04:58
reagleBRKLNthere is no lock04:58
Seveashmm04:58
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MattFletseveas: i see you've got hoary cds. is this from shipit? i was wondering if they were still being sent out or not.04:59
reagleBRKLNe.g., mutt is happy to open /Mail/inbox, but complains of /Mail/q/inbox04:59
jeroen_Dutch, does it works with Knoppix (which you're using now, correct?)04:59
studenthi, i'm having problems with Ubuntu and Internet, the problem is that i connect throught wvdial and it gets conected successfully, but when i try to see a web page or connect to any Internet services it does never display me the web or the internet service working04:59
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SeveasreagleBRKLN, and if you recreate the lock?04:59
SeveasMattFlet, they are from shipit and they're still being sent04:59
MattFletace!05:00
DutchNot with Alsa, only with the Kernel OSS drivers, which gives a damn click at the start and end of every sound output.. ANd not using Knoppi, but Kanotix.05:00
reagleBRKLNtouch inbox.lock; mutt -fr inbox -> Lock count exceeded, remove lock for inbox? ([yes] /no):05:00
BoD_SWAThow can I make applications 'auto-start' ? (or write a .sh file to autostart a few apps at the same time?)05:00
Seveasstudent, can you ping any machine?05:00
reagleBRKLNi simply don't know where/why these programs are getting hung up on a lockfile05:00
studentSeveas, only the remote IP of my ISP05:00
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SeveasreagleBRKLN, /me is stunned, maybe ask on a procmail or mutt mailinglist will help05:01
DutchThe kernel OSS driver is the CS4232 driver.. Have googled like hell and tried every recipee I've found for alsa and the CS4237B chip, but alas nogo..05:01
reagleBRKLNhrmm.. ok05:01
jeroen_Dutch: Ubuntu uses ESD, but to be honest, I know nothing about sound05:01
crimsunDutch: I need the exact lspnp -v dump for that chipset05:02
studentSeveas, but when i try to ping google.com or a web like that it nevers get to reply me the ping request05:02
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tubicer irc.arrakis.es05:02
Seveasstudent, what kind of connection is it?05:02
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geoffroy_yo05:03
studentSeveas, dial up05:03
DutchCrimsun, Lspnp shows nada for the chipset... proc/bus/pnp not available is the output05:03
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crimsunDutch: can you at least get me the revision of the cirrus logic chipset?05:03
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Dutch4237B accoriding to the Specs on Dell's site for the laptop's asset tag.05:04
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crimsunDutch: right, but certain revisions of that chipset are extremely problematic05:04
jayAnybody familiar with debian-installer?  I'd like to utilize the section where it adds a new user instead of having to roll my own but not sure how to access it through debconf.05:05
geoffroy_my trash disappeared05:05
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crimsunjay: kamion in #u-d is the guy you want to ask05:05
crimsunjay: (#ubuntu-devel)05:05
men1right click then select add to panel05:05
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geoffroy_yeah i just found05:06
geoffroy_thank you05:06
jaycrimsun:  thanks!05:06
jeroen_geoffroy_: I thought you ment it was emptied :p05:06
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trygvebwHi, have anybody else experienced errors on the LiveCD bootup while debian-installer is trying to run casper-udeb? It says it can't be read.05:06
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geoffroy_ahah05:07
DutchCrimsun, Hmm.. Should it be listed in any logs ? Again lspnp/lspci list nothing..05:07
Ainvarhow can I make beep media player my default mp3 player instead of totem?05:07
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SeveasAinvar, system->preferences->preferred applications05:08
elcuAinvar: right-click on the media file and select properties.05:08
studentSeveas, what do you think is the problem?05:08
elcuthen select the open with tab05:08
Seveasstudent, honestly no idea05:08
studentSeveas, ok man, thanx05:08
Ainvarthanks elcu05:09
Ainvardid not think of that05:09
trygvebw?05:09
elcunp05:09
crimsunDutch: that info is displayed when the driver is loaded (either the oss/free or the alsa one)05:09
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micampehello world05:10
micampeso how do I de-uglify Qt applications?05:10
micampewithout installing all of kde just to have a decent style05:10
DutchCrimsun, the problem is that the Alsa cs4236 driver won't load at all... Even with the correct parameters. The OSS driver, which is the CS4232 driver, loads but doesn't give any particular output in the dmesg...05:11
sproingiegood question, what is the default theme for qt these days?05:11
Seveasplastix/lipstick05:12
sproingiei thought that was for kde05:12
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Seveashmm yeah05:12
sproingiei recall qt has a default look ... something like a cross between win9x and motif05:12
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sproingieplastik isn't pad.  lipstik looks just like XP, with its bad gradients and all05:13
sproingies/pad/bad/05:13
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sproingieat least it's not keramik.  ugh05:13
micampesproingie, the default is an orrible motif lookalike with huge fonts05:14
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micampejust sane fonts would be enough for me...05:14
sproingieoy.  i vaguely remember that.  can't you install a qt theme from apt without kde?05:14
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sproingiedont think the theme will affect the font size tho05:15
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raphaHi all!05:15
DutchCrimsum, when trying to load the Alsa driver : CS4236+ not found or device busy  FATAL : Error inserting snd_cs4236 : No such device.05:15
micampethere doesn't seem to be such a thing as a "qt theme", just kde styles05:15
sproingiei think there's a qt theme engine that will use gnome themes05:15
raphaIs there a voice removal / karaoke plugin for XMMS or BEEP or any other media player?05:15
sproingiei know there's a vice versa05:15
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trygvebwHave anybody experienced errors on the LiveCD bootup while debian-installer is trying to run casper-udeb? It says it can't be read.05:15
crimsunDutch: what parameters are you passing to modprobe?05:16
crimsuntrygvebw: check the console (alt+F[23] ) for errors05:16
elcurapha: IIRC, there's one for XMMS.  it isn't that great though.05:16
wdhrapha, http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com05:16
wdh:)05:16
trygvebwcrimsun, ok thanks :)05:16
wdhrapha, found one on the first hit05:16
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sproingiemicampe: no, qt has themes.  i have a "theme=plastik" line in my qtrc05:17
wdhrapha, just kidding, no offence :)05:18
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sproingiemicampe: lemme msg you the general part of my qtrc (it's about 6 lines)05:18
raphawdh: Thank you.05:18
raphaelcu: If only I could find the URL...05:18
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wdhrapha, http://defx.sourceforge.net/faq.html  << this was the first hit..05:18
micampesproingie, go05:19
AnglophobeI am having troubles with my external hard drive. (through usb)05:19
Dutchcrimsum : modprobe snd_cs4236 port=0x530 cport=0x210 mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388 irq=505:19
elcurapha: XMMS has one installed by default.  but yeah, wdh is doing the work for you :-)05:19
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crimsunDutch: is the pnp os option disabled in bios?05:19
AnglophobeIT appears mounted when I boot up, and I can see the inital directories in it, but if I try to go into any of the sub directories, it stops responding. (even with a ctrl-c)05:20
DutchCrimsum, no PNP OS option in the Dell Latitude CP A16 bios. ACPI is enabled.. have tried with and without ACPI.05:20
crimsunDutch: then you need to pass isapnp=0 to modprobe05:21
raphawdh: When you know what to look for it's easier... I've actually been googling for half an hour now05:21
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wdhrapha, just for the things you told me :) "voice removal" and "XMMS"05:22
Anglophobeany ideas?05:22
wdhrapha, but i do recognise the problem.. one can be googling for hours with all the wrong keywords :)05:22
DutchCrimsum, Tried that as well, both in my alsa conf files, as well as by the command line : modprobe snd_cs4236 port=0x530 cport=0x210 mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388 irq=5 mpu_irq=9 dma1=1 dma2=-1 isapnp=005:22
Anglophobe/dev/sda5 on /media/sda5 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077)05:23
Anglophobeit's mounted as:05:23
crimsunDutch: dma2=-1?05:23
Dutchcrimsum: Yep, disabled.. Also tried with it enabled set to 5 as found on the Linux Cookbook site.. No go..05:24
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raphawdh: elcu: Got it now! Thanks! ... Will have to see if my cousin finds it good enough for the song she wants to sing....05:25
wdhrapha, glad to be of service05:25
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Dutchcrimsum. Its the only thing bugging me with this laptop.. Everything else including wifi and X I can get working. Just the sound under ALSA.. But OK, ubunty has the old OSS drivers included as well, so if I have to I must use those I guess.. Only problem is later on, when OSS becomes depreciated..05:26
elcurapha: what's it called? just out of interest.05:26
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crimsunDutch: are those values specific to your hardware?05:28
crimsunDutch: there's a general range, but you have to use the values specifically for yours05:28
Anglophobeanyone05:29
Anglophobe?05:29
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crimsunAnglophobe: what does dmesg tell you after it locks up?05:29
Dutchcrimsum: They should be.. Same values as listed on every recipe for the CP I've found,, as well as the same values used under Win. Also the values works for the cs4232 OSS driver...05:30
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_ac_chan_hi... is there going to be ubuntu hoary version of firefox 1.0.4?05:30
trygvebwno05:30
Seveas_ac_chan_, sort of05:31
trygvebwThe Hoary version of Firefox (1.0.2) is patched so it contains all the Firefox security fixes.05:31
Seveasthe fixes will be available05:31
_ac_chan_oh okay.. just was wondering cool..just worried about the security fixes05:31
trygvebwok :)05:31
crimsunthe security fixes have been applied already.05:31
men1when is firefox 1.0.4 coming out?05:31
trygvebwit has come out05:31
deFrysktoday05:31
men1no, i mean for Ubuntu05:32
trygvebwit won't05:32
trygvebwRead my explanation.05:32
men1i have the windows version already05:32
trygvebw<trygvebw> The Hoary version of Firefox (1.0.2) is patched so it contains all the Firefox security fixes.05:32
crimsunplease load the oss driver and tell me the revision information of your sound chipset from dmesg05:32
trygvebwSo Hoary won't get a "REAL" 1.0.4 version, only a patched 1.0.2 one05:32
crimsun^ Dutch05:32
elcumen1: you can always install it seperately.05:32
maineryes from mozilla as an installer file .bi,probly;hoary is frozen except security/bug-fixes05:32
Anglophobecrimsun: I'm not sure it is showing anything.05:33
crimsunDutch: I have to leave, but I'll be back in an hour05:33
men1looks like something to look at backports05:33
Seveasmen1, backports are icky05:33
Seveasbettor not use them05:33
Seveasbetter*05:33
trygvebwmen1, why? The version in Hoary _has_ all the fixes!05:33
men1the not free issue?05:33
mainerif you want current,use the mozilla-i686-installer.bin file,or stay with ubuntu version05:33
AnglophobeI'm not sure if it's locked or what. I can look in the mount directory but when I try to go into a subdirectory, it just doesn't do anything.05:33
Seveasmen1, warty&hoary ubuntu are not called 1.0.4 but contain all the fixes...05:33
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trygvebwAnd in addition, backports/breezy has 1.0.2 patched too, not 1.0.4.05:34
men1i got 1.0.3 on Ubuntu though05:34
trygvebwahok05:34
JormundgandIf they have the fixes they should just label it 1.0.3 and use the official logo.05:34
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trygvebwBecause why?05:34
deFryskwhats in a number :s05:34
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trygvebwThey aren't allowed to.05:34
SeveasJormundgand, no they should not05:34
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JormundgandThe logo which comes with Hoary is ugly as hell, and they didn't even try for the Thunderbird logo.05:34
elcutrygvebw: some people like saying they have the latest version rather than the ubuntu one.05:35
trygvebwJormundgand, that's because they simple AREN'T allowed to include the official logo!05:35
trygvebwelcu, ah :P05:35
JormundgandThey can use the official logo if they use the official browser version.05:35
Anglophobecrimsun: If I try to umount it it gives me device is busy05:35
trygvebwYes, but then they can't package it in a DEB...05:35
Seveaselcu, that's probably the gentoo people :)05:35
men1just get the icon and dump it in the pixmaps folder05:35
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trygvebwAnd they HAVE to package it in a DEB.05:35
elcutrygvebw: i don't know why either if the ubuntu one is patched already.05:35
JormundgandPackaging it into a deb doesn't change the program itself at all.05:35
trygvebwJormundgand, yes, it does. It is recompiled.05:36
men1could try the debian version05:36
SeveasJormundgand, licensing can prohibit things...05:36
elcutrygvebw: yeah, probably :-)05:36
trygvebwWhen you recompile you aren't allowed to use the official logo05:36
Anglophobecrimsun: there are files in the root of the dir, and I can open them, it's beyond those ones.05:36
men1i used the debian version once for 1.0.205:36
hawke_trygvebw: not true.  When you apply patches you aren't allowed to use the official logo.05:36
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JormundgandExcept you're compiling THEIR code. There can't be any problems, or else they'd need to fix their code.05:36
trygvebwhawke, yeah05:37
SeveasJormundgand, see hawke_'s comment...05:37
trygvebwJormundgand, look at hawke_s comment05:37
Seveaslicensing is tricky business...05:37
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Dutchcrimsum: output of dmesg|tail after loading uart401, ad1848 cs4236 and opl3 :05:37
Dutchad1848/cs4248 codec driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-199605:37
Dutchad1848: No ISAPnP cards found, trying standard ones...05:37
Dutchpnp: Device 00:10 activated.05:37
DutchYM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft 1993-199605:37
Dutchknoppix@knoppix:~$05:38
SeveasDutch, DO NOT paste here!05:38
trygvebwBut i'm more wondering why the creator of the Firefox official artwork didn't release it under a free license...05:38
men1http://www.rafb.net/paste/05:38
trygvebwpastebin.com05:38
DutchSeveas.. to late, sorry ;)05:38
hawke_trygvebw: So that it can be a trademark, or some such.05:38
Seveasubuntu.pastebin.com next time please Dutch :)05:38
JormundgandTo business: How do I get Eterm to scroll to the bottom when new output appears? I've set --home-on-output but it's not doing anything.05:38
trygvebwhawke, can't it be if it's under a free license?05:38
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men1then if it's so, tux and the ubnutu logo is also subject then?05:39
Seveasmen1, no, other license05:39
Dutchcrimsun, no version info output from the cs4232 driver.. But loaded..05:39
lotusleafwoo, only 15 hours left in my ubuntu download05:39
Seveasbut this discussion is too off-topic here, let's please stop...05:39
elcuhawke_: : why have i seen howtos on how to change it to the official logo?  wouldn't that be a nono?05:39
fepi need help to configure my mouse, i have a genius with net-scroll, that's is connected on the serial port, not on ps2, somone nows how i solve this?05:39
Seveaslotusleaf, what are you downloading?05:39
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men1Seveas: the debian versions of firefox seems to work05:40
hawke_Hrm, not sure exactly how that works.  I believe that if they allow anyone to do whatever with the official (trademarked) logo, they could lose their trademark.05:40
Seveasfep, search the forums, it's been discussed there.05:40
trygvebwhawke, ok05:40
fepthanks :)05:40
hawke_elcu: Sort of.  It may be ok if the changes aren't distributed but simply made by each individual user.05:40
IcemanV9Dutch: [10:33]  crimsun Dutch: I have to leave, but I'll be back in an hour05:41
Dutchcrimsum, you want the link for the recipe I've tried to use ?05:41
raphaelcu: It's called DeFX05:41
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elcurapha: ah, thanks05:42
elcuhawke_: how sneaky!05:43
elcu:-)05:43
Anglophobeanyone else know about my external hd problems?05:43
elcuAnglophobe: while you're waiting, you could search ubuntuforums.org if you haven't yet.05:43
raphanp05:45
NeoCoolrapha!05:45
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Rubinhrm. i was led to believe partimage was on the livecd. it doesnt seem to be. is there a way to install apps in the live cd??05:48
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nanomaddont think, cause it runs on a ram-disk05:49
bluefoxicyg14:  ping05:49
Anglophoberebooting05:49
jeroen_What should be my glxgears score when using fglrx drivers? (Radeon 9200)05:50
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elcujeroen_: what sort of results have you gotten?05:51
jeroen_elcu: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28322405:52
jeroen_elcu: but I'm doing a lot of things at the same time. Could that influence results?05:52
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nanomadjeroen_, sure!05:53
jeroen_nanomad: should I try again after closing lots of apps?05:53
nanomadyes...its better...05:53
ftwighi - anyone know how to get coperplate font for horay?05:53
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jeroen_brb!05:54
nanomadjeroen_, with a 9550 i got 2000 fps...05:54
usynicanyone notice that the latest firefox update crashes a lot?05:56
men1usynic: version?05:57
usynic1.0.2-0ubuntu505:57
men1there's fetching the debian versions05:58
usynichrmm?05:58
men1or backports to try out05:58
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men1go to a debian testing mirror and fetch firefox 1.0.305:58
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men1it works for me, i mean the backports one05:59
Ac1dcrawlI've just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to get the 2.6 kernel sources with apt-get, when I do apt-cache search kernel-source, all that comes up is 2.4 stuff.05:59
Ac1dcrawlAny ideas of what i'm doing wrong?05:59
men1*wonders why his windows firefox is way newer than is ubuntu's06:00
Ac1dcrawlI was wondering that same thing myself.06:00
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men1http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/06:00
men1sorry sry seveas06:00
elcuAc1dcrawl: maybe update your sources?06:01
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deFrysksilly backports06:01
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jeroen_http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28322806:01
deFrysktotally unneeded06:01
Ac1dcrawlSure, I had thought about that, but I have no idea what sources to use.06:01
Ac1dcrawlis there a list of sources for ubuntu?06:01
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men1http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories06:01
elcuAc1dcrawl: ubuntuforums.org06:01
jeroen_and: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28322506:01
elcuwhoops06:01
elcuubuntuguide.org06:01
nanomadbetter...06:02
FreeEaglehi all06:02
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FreeEagle:)06:02
nanomad(to jeroen_ )06:02
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Ac1dcrawlI'll check that out, thanks.06:02
jeroen_nanomad: but can you tell from this whether acceleration is working?06:02
men1if ubuntu's gaim could be updated more frequently, then backports would lose it's purpose06:02
nanomadno...06:02
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nanomadjust look at fglrx_info06:03
jeroen_nanomad: but that's what the program is supposed to do ;)06:03
jeroen_nanomad: oh, okay06:03
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elcumen1: didn't someone answer you before? apparently hoary's firefox already has all the fixes.  if you aren't satisifed with that, download the bin installer.06:03
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men1elcu: i meant by gaim06:04
men1not FF06:04
TwoBitSpriteso... in a fresh install of ubuntu... I run firefox and use it's plugin finder to install flash, but can't get the sound to work...06:05
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elcujeroen_: you can use glxinfo and see if direct rendering is enabled.06:05
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FreeEagleI have a question here?06:05
FreeEagleI have a question here !!!!06:05
TwoBitSpriteFreeEagle, just ask your question...06:05
dr_willis0_o06:05
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nanomadFreeEagle, ??? just talk...06:06
jeroen_elcu: direct rendering is enabled06:06
FreeEagleOkay... I used to use Gaim, now there is a new Version of it, is there anyway to isnatll this Automatically without makeing Compile to the Original file06:06
FreeEaglebecause i am still Newbie06:07
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jeroen_FreeEagle, use a .deb file06:07
elcujeroen_: then it's working :-)06:07
jeroen_these are easy to install, FreeEagle06:07
FreeEaglefrom where should i download this06:07
men1FreeEagle: the debian gaim is messy to install06:07
jeroen_elcu: alright, then I'll try to play gl-117 :-)06:07
Fator_Deethere's a newer gaim on backports06:07
FreeEaglehummm.... So what should i do now ??06:07
jeroen_bye all!06:07
men1i tried it, and it brought quite alot of issues06:07
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Seveasusing backports is not recommended06:08
men1source compile06:08
deFryskand not supported06:08
SeveasFreeEagle, if you are so desperate to have a new version, compile it from the source06:08
Seveasotherwise, wait for breezy to get stabler06:08
Fator_DeeSeveas: what kind of issues there could be?06:08
TwoBitSpriteso yeah... does anyone know how to get Flash to use the ESD or should I just kill the ESD and try to let Flash use the sound port?06:08
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dr_willisof course getting all the dev packages where you can install it from source - could be a annoyance.06:09
SeveasFator_Dee, backports have broken many dpkg dependencies before06:09
Fator_Deeoh06:09
FreeEagleSeveas, is the compile way that easy to do06:09
FreeEagle??06:09
SeveasFreeEagle, if you apt-get build-dep gaim, compiling shouldn't be too hard06:09
FreeEagleokay06:10
Seveasapt-get build-dep gaim will install all things needed to compile gaim06:10
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Seveasand make sure you pass --prefix=/opt/gaim-new as a parameter to configure06:10
FreeEagleSeveas, so i will download the Source File and then do what you said here06:10
FreeEagleThanks alot for help!!!!06:11
g14bluefoxicy, pong.06:12
FreeEaglebye all06:12
FreeEagle:)06:12
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men1Fator_Dee: it's only 1.2.106:14
Fator_Deeyou mean the gaim?06:14
men1yup06:14
Fator_Deewell, I said newer, not the newest :-p06:14
Fator_Deeanyways06:15
men1well my windows rig has a way newer version06:15
men1than my Ubuntu one06:15
Fator_Deewell, I don't care ;-)06:15
Seveasif it aint broken, don't fix it :)06:15
men1Datallah's great for the wingaim issue06:15
men1actually i have issues with yahoo before06:16
MuStRanyone know how to use a wireless network with linux?06:16
Seveassure06:17
MuStRshoot06:17
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Seveasthese words come to you via a wireless net :)06:17
MuStR:D06:17
MuStRI'm going home tomorrow and I'm going to be on a wireless network, so I want there to be a seamless transition of inet...06:17
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MuStRhow how how??06:19
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Seveasdepends on the chipset and the encryption :)06:19
MuStRhm06:20
MuStRit's a linksys06:20
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Seveasouch06:20
MuStRoh boy06:20
Seveasyou'll have to go the hard ndiswrapper way i guess06:20
MuStRthat doesn't sound like fun06:21
dravineanyone have any ideas on recovering a corrupt superblock on an ext3 partition?06:21
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MuStRSeveas, is there a site I can go to that would help?06:21
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SeveasMuStR, look for the ndiswrapperhowto on wiki.ubuntu.com06:22
MuStRokay06:22
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ulissehello channel!06:23
dead^hello ulisse!06:23
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Badness45i have a broadcom network adapter and when i installed warty it's not reconized06:25
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ulisseone my friend is having a strange issue with Neverball and an Nvidia card, after a few seconds he gets a blank screen...06:26
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ulissehe is using the closed nvidia drivers06:27
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karljpcan anyone confirm or deny being able to use fat32 drives > 32gig that were formatted in linux under windows?06:28
nanot3chHey, I installed Apache2 / MySQL / PHP and I can't get phpinfo to work now...I get this error when I attempt to load it: "Warning:  Unknown(/var/www/index.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 006:28
nanot3chWarning:  (null)(): Failed opening '/var/www/index.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0"06:28
Ac1dcrawlI've followed all the instructions on ubuntuguide.org for apt-get, and I still can't get any of the 2.6 kernel sources to get.06:28
karljpMS knowledge base says that it can read and write them if another OS created them, but can't make them itself06:29
Ac1dcrawlThere is an error saying they are unavailable or deprecated.06:29
Ac1dcrawlany ideas?06:29
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_4strOyop yop06:30
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elcuAc1dcrawl: did you follow the #extrarepositories topic?06:31
Ac1dcrawlyup06:31
Ac1dcrawlJust for kicks I did an apt-get update kernel-sources-2.6* and it brought up several items, but when I try to install them it says they are unavailable of deprecated.06:32
dr_williskarljp,  yep - MS wont let you make them.06:32
Ac1dcrawlactually I did an apt-get install.06:32
elcuAc1dcrawl: and you did an apt-get update06:32
karljpcool, just reading some extra ms docos06:32
elcuAc1dcrawl: apt-get update06:32
karljpI want to make sure my external drive can be used r/w with both xp and ubuntu06:32
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Ac1dcrawloh yeah, I did an apt-get update.06:33
dr_williskarljp,  yea - i need to do a similer thing.06:33
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karljpntfs seemed like such a good idea the time :)06:34
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Badness45has anyone install a broadcom wireless adapter in ubuntu06:34
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karljpI'm using one right now06:34
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karljpspecifically a dell truemobile 135006:34
karljpbcm430606:35
berkeshello folks. I kinda borked my permissions and groups yesterday. I fixed most of it, but need to know ome details about the sound system used in kubunutu.06:35
berkesI assume arts is used?06:35
abbot45ive got a question about the Pan newsreader, if anyone here uses it.06:35
DarksunIs there a guide to installing drivers for my radeon 9700 on ubuntu?06:36
berkesand what would the default engine be? alsa? oss?06:36
elcuAc1dcrawl: the package is called linux-source, not kernel-source06:36
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elcuDarksun: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto06:36
berkesDarksun: i got it working out of the box.06:36
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elcuAc1dcrawl: you should get the package that matches uname -a06:36
Ac1dcrawlwell, that could be my problem then, duh.  I've used linux for quite some time, it's the detail that kill you.06:37
karljparts and alsa I believe06:37
elcu:-)06:37
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elcuAc1dcrawl:  i found it by doing "apt-cache search kernel"06:38
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Zenhey all... you know when you make a link to a folder you get that big ugly blue emblem to show its a link.. how do you get rid of that?06:38
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Badness45karl: how did u do the install06:38
Badness45for the broadcom06:38
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elcuberkes: i'd assume he wants 3d accleration06:38
berkeskarljp: thanks; and have you got any clue as to how the permissions for that are set up?06:39
karljpjust followed the ndiswrapper howto06:39
berkesI know there is a group called audio: do i need to be member of that to listen to sound?06:39
Badness45so did i but it say invalid driver06:39
Badness45where did u get the driver form06:40
Ac1dcrawlAlright, got it, thanks for pointing out the obvious for me. :)06:40
karljpthen you used the wrong driver?06:40
Badness45from06:40
karljpfrom dell06:40
tritiumberkes, yes06:40
karljpdid you get ndiswrapper 1.1?06:40
Badness45i tried the one from the system cd still don't work06:40
Badness45yeah06:40
Badness45ndiswrapper 1.106:40
karljpand what actual card is it?06:40
karljpget the newest windows xp driver from their site06:40
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Badness45the site only has the exe06:41
karljpI believe the howto says what do with that06:41
karljpdoesn't it say "unzip the exe"06:41
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Badness45hold let me see06:43
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geoffroy__hey just a question06:43
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geoffroy__I've got rar06:43
geoffroy__and i can't unrar archives06:43
bur[n] ergeoffroy__: u need non-free unrar06:44
geoffroy__oh ?06:44
bur[n] erin universe/multiverse06:44
bur[n] erfree unrar doesn't do rar version 306:44
berkestritium: thanks. but it did not doe the trick "device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Permission denied)"06:44
geoffroy__ok06:44
geoffroy__thank bur[n] er06:44
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bur[n] erberkes: add yourself to the "audio" group?06:45
berkesburner i am in there.06:45
bur[n] eroh... nevermind ;)06:45
bur[n] er;)06:45
bur[n] eri didn't read the backlog06:45
bur[n] ersudo chmod 777 /dev/dsp should do the trick ;)06:45
berkesbur[n] er: hmmmm06:46
tritiumberkes, you should log out and log back in after making changes to /etc/group06:46
berkestritium: o? ill try a new session.06:46
Badness45karl: when i use the ndiswrapper install it say to use the .inf is that the only file i need06:46
tritiumberkes, please do06:46
bur[n] erBadness45: usually a .sys file too06:47
karljpno, it will find the rest based on the inf file06:47
Badness45ok06:47
Badness45i never included that too06:47
Badness45maybe that's why06:47
karljphehe06:47
karljpjust unzip the entire exe and then do the ndiswrapper -i bit06:48
bur[n] eran inf is just a text file... not the actual driver ;)06:48
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karljpstop trying to take shortcuts :)06:48
karljpI tried to take shortcuts the first three times06:48
karljpthen decided to just follow the instructions and it worked straight away06:48
bur[n] eror buy supported hardware ;)06:48
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karljpor make linux support more hardware :)06:49
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karljpnow, I just created a new partition on this virginal drive in it's usb enclsore,06:50
geoffroy__can't i unrar with hierarchy N06:50
geoffroy__i didn't find in man06:50
karljpand where did it get mounted. /media/idedisk or /media/usbdisk?06:50
bur[n] ergeoffroy__: unrar x blah.rar ?06:50
bur[n] eror just use file-roller06:51
geoffroy__file-roller ?06:51
bur[n] erfile-roller is a gui compression app06:51
bur[n] erer... u use kde?06:51
geoffroy__no06:52
bur[n] eruse ark if you're a kde guy06:52
geoffroy__gnome06:52
Seveasfile-roller needs rar itself installed for unratting to work06:52
Badness45when i unzip i see like 10 files06:52
bur[n] erok, file-roller it is then :)06:52
geoffroy__it seems it's installed06:52
karljpbadness: yeah, just leave them06:52
geoffroy__i haven't seen it06:52
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bur[n] ergeoffroy__: you're kidding?06:52
karljpwhat's the motivation for trying to pick out just the relevant one?06:52
Badness45so how do i use them06:52
geoffroy__=] 06:52
geoffroy__yeah06:52
bur[n] ergeoffroy__: alt+f2, type "file-roller"06:52
geoffroy__it doesn't work on the rar archive06:52
karljpndiswrapper -i the .inf06:52
bur[n] ergeoffroy__: or double click a .rar or .zip06:52
karljphow many .infs are there?06:52
geoffroy__this is the problem06:52
bur[n] ergeoffroy__: it does if you get the right rar :P06:52
bur[n] erthe non-free one06:52
Badness45i included the bcmwl5.sys and bcmwl5.inf06:53
bur[n] er!RestrictedFormats06:53
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karljp"included" means what?06:53
Badness45let me see06:53
karljpwhat are you doing?06:53
geoffroy__it's ok06:53
geoffroy__unrar worked06:53
karljpjust get the .exe,06:53
karljpunzip it06:53
geoffroy__but file-roller..!06:53
karljpand ndiswrapper the .inf06:53
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karljpand presto!06:53
Badness45406:54
bur[n] ergeoffroy__: check the wiki... i swear it's there somewhere ;)06:54
bur[n] eri forgot how to do it off the top of my head06:54
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Badness45setup.inf bcmwl5a.inf and bcmwl5.inf bcmhom.inf06:55
geoffroy__ok06:55
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karljptry the a one I think.06:55
bur[n] ergeoffroy__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions  <--search for "unrar"06:55
karljpit's either of the bcmwl* ones.06:55
karljpone will work, one won't06:55
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karljpI thought all this was on the howto page?06:56
Badness45but all says invalid driver06:56
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Badness45i installed all except hom06:56
karljpwell you'v elost me then.06:56
Badness45ok06:56
agentusing "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" gives permission error right at the end of compile (when compile is "finished" when binaries are "moved"): ex. install: cannot create regular file `/usr/bin/qemu-img': Permission denied. HELP!!06:56
Badness45when i install the driver and it don't work i have to uninstall it06:57
Badness45or remove it06:57
elcuagent: use sudo06:57
Seveasagent, that means the package is quite flaky, which package is it?06:57
Seveasagent, do NOT use sudo!06:57
Seveasfor building packages, NEVER be root06:58
agentSeveas, i figured one should not use sudo because thats root :)06:58
agentSeveas, hence i tried using fakeroot :)06:58
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elcusorry, still a noob :-)06:58
Seveasagent, which package is it06:58
agentme too!06:58
agentSeveas, im building qemu cvs06:58
Seveaselcu, then please don't give advise about things you don'y understand...06:58
Badness45hello06:59
jmjonesi'm running hoary.  my machine froze, so i had to quasi-hard reboot (just hit the power button once and it shut down for me, walking down its kill sequence and shuts down).  when it came back up, gnome won't start.  i tried re-installing the ubuntu-desktop package, but that didn't work.  i tried moving my .gnome and .gnome2 directories.   that didn't work.  i'm in a terminal on that machine now and gnome-session is just hanging....any i06:59
Seveasagent, did you download a deb from the quemu site oslt?06:59
elcuSeveas: noted :-)06:59
karljpanyone know how to add a volume label with gparted?06:59
agentSeveas, it builds fine by itself (note: did not try "make install")...06:59
agentSeveas, no no no... im making my own deb (first one!)06:59
Seveasah ok :)06:59
geoffroy__Seveas, ?07:00
geoffroy__are u using something for radio signal ?07:00
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geoffroy__or just the script u gave me ?07:00
Seveasdid you go the checkinstall way?07:00
geoffroy__only.07:00
agentSeveas, did the whole dh_make routine correctly (i think)... edited debian/ and all07:00
Seveasgeoffroy_, i only use that script07:00
geoffroy__hmm ok07:00
agentSeveas, checkinstall? are you asking me?07:01
Seveasagent, did you edit the makefile so that it takes a debian $(PREFIX)07:01
agentSeveas, no :(07:01
Seveasagent, checkinstall is an automated way of creating a package07:01
Badness45karl: where did u get the install from07:01
Seveasit means, run ./configure and make yourself07:01
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Seveasand instead of sudo make install, you run sudo checkinstall07:01
karljpI got mine from the dell site.07:01
Seveas(try without the sudo first)07:02
karljpcheckinstall is kickass07:02
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agentSeveas, oooh.... does checkinstall make debs or just... err... check the install? ;)07:02
Seveasit makes debs07:02
karljpcheckinstall watches what happens during a make install07:02
karljpand makes a deb and installs it07:02
dave_anyone had any sucess using webmin. I'm having trouble getting it installed.07:02
karljpso you can give it to your friends or dpkg -P it later.07:02
Seveasdave_ what's the problem>07:02
Badness45i hate hp07:03
binbrainanybody know of an app that can monitor hardware changes in a network?07:03
agentSeveas, so one does not need ot use nh_make and dpkg-buldpackage? only do the whole ./configure, make, then checkinstall routine? thats all? no debian config files to edit?07:03
Seveasagent, well, the dh_make is the cleanest way of doing things :)07:03
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dave_Seveas: I've done an apt-get install of webmin, then made a symbolic link into my /var/www directory. But when I try to access the page it won't handle the perl script07:03
agentSeveas, i see :)07:03
dave_Seveas: Firefox wants to download the script07:04
agentkarljp, thanks for the info...07:04
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Seveasdave_, are you running apache too?07:04
Seveaswebmin is not apache...07:04
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dave_Seveas: I've got apache running as well as mysql, php4 and perl installed07:04
alekandranyone know of any php editors in the ubuntu apt list? or php-ide's ?07:05
Seveasdave_, please read the webmin docs to see how to access it :)07:05
Seveasalekandr, vim ;)07:05
Seveaswith php syntax highlighting07:05
dr_williswebmin - https://localhost:1000007:05
agentSeveas, if i use checkinstall, do i need to configure anything like makefile? (sorry to keep bothering you, i swear i will read the man file :)07:05
karljp./configure anyoptions you want07:06
karljpmake07:06
karljpsudo checkinstall07:06
dr_willishowever - if you did not have root with an actual password - it used to be that webmin installed with no root acount. and you had to add one.07:06
alekandrSeveas: i was thinking more along the lines of an editor with debug options as well as an output view!07:06
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Seveasalekandr, for php there are none, neither are there for windows..07:06
dave_Seveas: I'm thinking my server is not handling the perl script properly07:06
karljpthen you broke it good an proper.07:06
alekandrSeveas: incorrect07:06
Seveasdave_, your webserver should not handle it07:07
agentkarljp, ok... so i should use sudo with checkinstall, not fakeroot or something of that sort, right?07:07
Seveaswebmin is its own webserver07:07
Seveasalekandr, ok sorry :)07:07
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karljpcheckinstall will use fakeroot07:07
mirakhi07:07
dave_Seveas: doesn't apache parse the script and produce html output07:07
alekandrSeveas: there are 3, php-ide, php-dev-ide php-designer-200507:07
karljpcheckinstall needs to be sudo'd depending on what configure options you needed07:07
agentkarljp, i see... thanks a lot!07:07
karljpif you would need to sudo make install, then you would need to sudo checkinstall07:07
Badness45i am confused07:07
karljpif you configured to install into your home dir07:08
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karljpthen you don't need to sudo checkinstall (i believe)07:08
mirakhi07:08
agentkarljp, gotcha!07:08
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karljp(I've never actually tried that way though)07:08
agentkarljp, makes sense.... and to make sure, checkinstall only makes the binary right? it does not isntall the actual "package" ala make install07:08
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karljpno, it does the make install part as well.07:08
karljpit basically completely replaces "make install"07:09
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karljponly you get a deb at the end of it that you can resuse07:09
karljpand it's listed for you to uninstall with your favourite package manager07:09
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agentkarljp, i see... so does it then "install" the deb... that is, it will show up with apt?07:10
housetierI thought its used like "checkinstall -D make install" and it will give you a .deb at the end07:10
karljpthat was what I was saying with the last bit yes :)07:10
karljphoustier, I think that might be the default07:10
chrisphow can i add a command to the boot sequence?  (something like rc.local)07:11
karljpcos I've just done it as sudo checkinstall, and I've got the deb at the end.07:11
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agentkarljp, okay! thanks again... ill have to read up on this command.... i have only been using debian-based (ubuntu being first debian distro) for a few days so im not all familiar with it just yet :)07:12
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karljplots of people don't use it.07:13
karljpif you're sure you want it, and aren't likely to remove it, you can just make install like normal :)07:13
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karljpI just like it as it lets me see in dpkg -l07:13
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karljpdebian has all sorts of trickery07:13
Badness45KARL: can u take a look of the install i followed  http://www.runithard.com/HOWTO-BCOM64WIRELESS/07:14
karljpoh wowo07:14
karljpI thought you were looking at the ubuntu ndiswrapper howto :)07:14
Badness45no07:14
karljpyou need 64bit?07:14
Badness45where is that07:14
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Badness45my laptop is a 64bit07:14
karljpare you running a 64bit kernel?07:15
Badness45yeah07:15
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karljpstupid google07:15
karljpthe page I wanted used to show up first07:15
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karljpnow it's just full of whiners on the forums07:16
geovinohi07:16
geovinohow do I show my hda icon on the desktop?07:16
geovinoit's my winxp drive07:16
karljphttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu07:17
karljptry tha tone.07:17
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mindsporeserver irc.rizon.net07:17
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karljphttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto07:17
karljpthat's the one I used07:17
geogeoanybody here has a laptop working on ubuntu ?07:17
nanot3chHey, what permissions do I need for PHP / Apache2? When I try to run phpinfo, it gives me errors that /usr/share/php could not be included...07:17
geovinokarljp: can you explain it here? I've looked at that before07:17
karljpgeogeo; /me is on a laptop right now07:18
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geogeook07:18
karljpsuspend to ram (sleep) is not as good as it should be07:18
karljpaka, I don't have it working yet, but I've done it once07:18
geogeowhen system is running on battery power07:18
geogeoi've got 2h-2H30 hours left07:18
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Badness45ok07:18
geogeoI should have 5 hours07:18
geogeoapmd is installed..!07:18
karljpdid you really want apmd?07:19
_hp_anyone know of a editor like ultraedit for linux?07:19
karljpor did you just read that you should do that somewhere on the web?07:19
karljpapm is the old way iirc07:19
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geogeoyeah but i haven't installed apmd07:19
karljpdoes it actually only last for 2 hours or so07:19
geogeoit was here by default07:19
TobiasFarwhat config do i have to write in GRUB config to let it also start Ubuntu?07:19
karljpor does it actually lasst for 5?07:19
geogeofor 207:19
dave_dr_willis: you suggested https://localhost:10000. I'm setting things up from another computer on the network and I can't get permission. Any idea why?07:19
karljphp: many many editors in linux07:20
geogeoand battery is full07:20
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karljpdo you have a second battery?07:20
karljpthat it's just not using?07:20
FackamatoWhat do I need to install in order to have an NFS server?07:20
Fackamatoi.e. export shares07:20
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karljpor isn't it scaling back like it should?07:20
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geogeoon windows, I've got 5 or 6 hours07:20
_hp_i'm looking for one that can find/replace text in a whole directory of files and with syntax highlighting07:20
karljpjust as my desktop07:20
geogeowith ubuntu, just 2H3007:20
karljphp just about all of them can do that.07:20
karljpyou can try gedit for starters, as it's there by default07:21
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karljpsee if it meets your needs.07:21
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karljpgeo; what does /proc/cpufreq say?07:22
karljpwhat is minimum?07:22
joe|codeI have a funny....07:22
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geogeominimum ?07:22
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karljpdo you have that file?07:22
geogeoyeah yeah07:23
jeroen_joe|code, what is it?07:23
karljpCPU  0       600000 kHz ( 42 %)  -    1400000 kHz (100 %)  -  userspace07:23
geogeo600 00007:23
joe|codeI went to the local LUG last week after not attending for a couple months and everyone there was using Ubuntu07:23
joe|codeeveryone!07:23
geogeoCPU  0       600000 kHz ( 37 %)  -    1600000 kHz (100 %)  -  userspace07:23
karljpso it should be doing it.07:23
_hp_is there a way to specify what the fourth button on my mouse does. it's working it just does what i don't want it to do07:23
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geogeoahah07:23
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jeroen_joe|code, that's impressive :o07:24
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dave_anyone have any experience setting up webmin. I have it installed on another machine and am trying to access it from my machine. However I get an access denied and I don't know what to do with that07:26
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Badness45what is apt-get install build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-`uname -r`07:26
geogeo Modem untested. For suspend to RAM, needs APM (not ACPI) : add 'apm=on acpi=off nolapic' (without quotes) to kernel options in /boot/grub/menu.lst , add apm to /etc/modules, and add shpchp and pciehp to /etc/hotplug/blacklist.07:26
geogeooups07:26
foxinessis there page how-to install and configure wine on hoary ? "im found one for ubuntu4"07:26
karljpgeo: where did that all come from?07:27
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Rubinis there a way to export the list of installed packages, and make them marked for install on another system? (to 'copy' it)07:27
TeamMCChi, wondering if anyone was able to get freenet to work? or if there is any documentation on setting it up for ubuntu?07:27
geogeofrom wiki karljp07:28
jeroen_Is there a Free Software alternative for Skype? (preferably one which can connect with Skype), or is someone reverse-engineering it?07:28
foxinessRubin, i think u ask about kickstart07:28
karljpwhich wiki page?07:28
Rubinthanks foxiness07:28
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g0dotI guess the ubuntu security update on firefox fixes the new exploit?07:29
karljpheh, I'm listed as a contributer to the ndiswrapper broadcom page, and my only contribution is no longer in the page :)07:30
jeroen_anyone?07:30
foxinessRubin, nps , you are welcome07:30
Hoxzeryou born you take shit., you grow a little bit you take more shit, you grow again and you take some less shit, then you grow again and you dont even remember what shit was07:30
geogeoi http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsIBM07:30
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geogeokarljp, where in menu.lst should I add "apm=on"..07:31
Amaranthjeroen_: Someone has documented a very small part of the protocol, there is no project I know of that is attempting to work with Skype.07:31
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chaoticozhey guys :>07:31
Amaranthjeroen_: This is why you use open protocols. :)07:31
geogeoyo07:31
foxinesschaoticoz, hi07:31
chaoticozquestion: how can i change my root pw?07:31
jeroen_Amaranth, yes I know. I love open protocols07:31
geogeopasswd root ?07:31
jeroen_chaoticoz: sudo passwd07:31
geogeosudo passwd yeah..07:31
chaoticozim on linux since 3 days07:31
geogeosudo sudo..07:31
chaoticozso go easy on me :D07:31
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chaoticozk thx :>07:31
jeroen_chaoticos: okay :)07:32
geogeoit's okay, everybody is easy here07:32
geogeogoes easy.07:32
geogeoi'm a DICK07:32
jeroen_chaoticoz, do you know how to open a terminal?07:32
karljpgeo: you can just put it on the end of the kernel line07:32
TeamMCCanyone using freenet?07:32
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chaoticozye jeroen_07:32
_hp_someone recommend me a good editor other than emacs and vim with syntax highlighting and a global search/replace...07:32
chaoticoza friend told me how to07:32
karljpor you can try and get tricky with grub's kopt stuff07:32
karljpbut I wouldn't bother07:32
gus_hoa07:32
chaoticozbut he isnt online atm :)07:32
geogeook07:32
karljpdidn't I tell you about gedit earlier hp?07:32
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_hp_karljp, tried it, no global search/replace07:33
karljpreally?07:33
geogeoI'll test07:33
geogeosee ya07:33
karljpwell use vim then07:33
chaoticozkk, that worked07:33
karljp:)07:33
foxiness_hp_, am not using nano but maybe it07:33
chaoticozthx07:33
jeroen_chaoticoz, okay, then just type "sudo passwd". Sudo means 'superuser do', you will need your password for that. Then it'll ask you for a new password for Root (twice).07:33
chaoticoz:)07:33
chaoticozyeah07:33
chaoticozi did it in root terminal07:33
Badness45karl: what is modprobe07:33
karljpwhat do you call global search and replae hp?07:33
kestasso can you guys not afford windows xp or something?07:33
karljpit has a search for/replace with /replace all setting07:33
karljpbadness, I can't explain that well,07:34
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chaoticozanother question: can i somehow use my old windows partition in linux?07:34
Badness45when i try to do that it says fatal error07:34
jeroen_chaoticoz, yes07:34
karljpbut basically it loads a module by name, and any modules it depends on.07:34
chaoticoz:o07:34
chaoticozhow? :)07:34
jeroen_chaoticoz, is it FAT or NTFS?07:34
foxinesschaoticoz, its easy07:34
chaoticozntfs, i thinl07:34
_hp_chaoticoz, mount -t ntfs location mountpoint07:34
Badness45the operation not permitted07:34
chaoticozthink*07:34
chaoticoz;o07:34
karljpwell, you need to do it with sudo07:34
chaoticozso much help in here :D07:34
chaoticozthats coool07:34
chaoticoz-o07:34
jeroen_np07:34
karljpthe broadcom ndis wiki does it with a root shell07:34
_hp_chaoticoz, open a root terminal and do vi /etc/fstab07:35
foxinesschaoticoz, lol07:35
jeroen_do you want it to mount ("load") at boot?07:35
chaoticozyeah07:35
g0dotdoes anyone know whether the ubuntu firefox update fixes the newly discovered exploit or not?07:35
Badness45before anything i do a sudo -s07:35
chaoticozdid it _hp_07:35
chaoticozshall i paste here?07:35
karljpor just put a sudo in front of most of the lines like I did badness :)07:35
jeroen_never paste here plz07:35
chaoticozok07:35
chaoticoz:)07:35
jeroen_not big stuff07:35
_hp_chaoticoz, don't, just edit it07:35
foxinesscan anyone point me to good doc for wine on hoary07:35
jeroen_www.ubuntu.pastebin.com07:35
jeroen_foxiness: it "just works" for me07:36
Badness45man i give up thanks for ur help07:36
_hp_chaoticoz, do you know where your windows partitions are?07:36
Badness45i'll stick to windows07:36
kestashahah windows emulation07:36
kestason linux07:36
chaoticozwell07:36
chaoticozi think its /dev/hdb207:36
_hp_Badness45, ever tried crossover ?07:36
jeroen_kestas: WINE = Wine Is Not an Emulator ;)07:36
kestasthen what is it?07:37
kestasan api?07:37
Badness45nah what is that07:37
foxinessjeroen_, k , apt-get install wine "that is all :)" nice07:37
kestasan api which emulates windows07:37
chaoticoz <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>07:37
jeroen_foxiness: that worked for me07:37
chaoticozwhat shall i put for options? :o07:37
_hp_chaoticoz, add this line: /dev/hdb2 MOUNTPT ntfs defaults,umask=0000 0 007:37
chaoticoz(sorry for paste :x)07:37
chaoticozok thx :D07:37
TeamMCCanyone here use(d) freenet?07:37
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_hp_chaoticoz, options should be defaults,umask=000007:37
kestaswith wine you can emulate solitair!07:37
chaoticozok07:37
kestasthats about it but hey07:38
kestasits worth it07:38
jeroen_chaoticoz, paste is okay, it's just that we don't want you to paste a complete file07:38
_hp_anyone here try gimpshop?07:38
alekandrhow would one go abouts suggestion the adding of a package into the ubuntu apt repo ?07:38
jeroen_chaoticoz, that's *very* anoying07:38
chaoticozoh07:38
chaoticozyeah :>07:38
jeroen_alekandr, for universe?07:38
alekandrjeroen_: indeed so07:38
chaoticozhow can i save the file with vi?07:38
dravine:wq07:38
_hp_chaoticoz, :wq07:38
chaoticozthx07:38
chaoticoz:>07:38
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kestasits so obvious07:39
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kestascolon w q07:39
jeroen_http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniverseCandidates07:39
kestascolon for command07:39
kestasw for write07:39
kestasq for quit07:39
kestaswhat could be easier?07:39
_hp_:q!07:39
kestasfile>save and file>quit?07:39
jamesiocan you guys recommend a good gnome file manager similiar to windows explorer?07:39
kestasor file>save and the cross in the top left07:39
jeroen_alekandr, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniverseCandidates07:39
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kestashow about just using windows numb nuts?07:40
jeroen_jamesio, nautilus is similar, you just need to change the settings07:40
chaoticozkestas: /quit woulkd be easier for me :)07:40
alekandrjeroen_: thanks :D07:40
jamesionumb nuts???07:40
jeroen_jamesio, mine looks pretty similar to windows explorer07:40
kestasexcept drag and drop is drag and crash07:40
karljpgvim07:40
jamesioI've used nautilus... was just hoping to get a myriad of answers and then test them all07:40
kestasand copy and paste07:40
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kestasis copy and crash07:40
dravinerox07:40
kestasand click and play07:41
kestasis click and crash07:41
jeroen_jamesio, okay. It's somewhere in settings, you need to click something IIRC. Not sure where though07:41
dravineand click and SHUT THE FUCK UP07:41
jamesiokestas, can you say anything positive?  all you've done in here is bitch.07:41
dravinewe get that everything you do crashes07:41
dravinemaybe it's a PEBKAC issues kestas07:42
jamesiojeroen_, thanks.  I'll play with the settings.  ever use any others like it?07:42
_hp_jamesh, nautilus is pretty much like windows explorer if you change information to tree07:42
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jeroen_jamesio, _hp_ is right07:42
chaoticozhow can i unmount a disk?07:42
jeroen_chaoticoz, umount /dev/hdb207:42
kestashahah07:42
jamesio_hp_, I did that.  I was hoping people used other similiar apps... there might just be another out there that I'm not familiar with.07:42
chaoticozthx :D07:42
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dave_anyone have any sucess getting webmin to work? I can't get access to the setup page07:43
kestashow do I uhhhh make it look and act like windows?07:43
kestasand run windows programs?07:43
kestasand not crash?07:43
jamesiokestas, you're an idiot.07:43
zxcif I just want to open a "Mathematica" executables (shell file?) in terminal how do I do it?07:43
zxcdon't I just cd to the directory and type "Mathematica" which is the filename?07:43
kestasbecause Im not using your oh so leet os?07:43
chaoticoz1 more question: :/ how can i set the mounted disk so i can open it as normal user?07:43
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jeroen_zxc if they're in your home, or any directory in which you can execute files, use ./executablefilename07:44
jamesiokestas, what os???  windows or ubuntu?  I use both.07:44
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dravinekestas, you are why stem cell research should be allowed, because it's evident that you're a waste of carbon07:44
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xilch|wkestas: to run windows apps you need wine07:44
AirWaysHmm07:44
kestasthanks xilch|w07:44
AirWaysHow I can update my Warty to Hoary?07:44
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zxcmathematica cannot determine operating system.07:44
AirWaysI dont have X-server07:44
kestasbut how do I stop it crashing?07:44
karljpor just make it work a bit faster07:44
_hp_chaoticoz, you have your options wrong, in /etc/fstab make sure that the options are defaults,umask=000007:44
jeroen_AirWays, look at the wiki07:44
chaoticozyeah07:44
karljpmine just decided to not copy all the files I'd selected to the other drive07:44
chaoticozbut when i try with /mount07:44
AirWaysURL?07:44
kestaswhen I type apt-get wine it says07:45
chaoticozi dont want to reboot atm :/07:45
kestas'get windows dipshit07:45
kestaswhats up with that?07:45
jeroen_kestas, apt-get install wine07:45
kestasahhh07:45
karljpyou got the special version of wine.07:45
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geogeohey hey07:45
karljpACME::Insulteh::User07:45
geogeoI've got another question \o/07:45
geogeoabout printers07:45
karljphows this one look geo?07:45
jeroen_geogeo, heyhey07:45
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karljpgot 5hours now?07:45
geogeoi dunno karljp07:46
geogeowe'll see07:46
geogeoit seems like it doesn't change anything07:46
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kestaslet me guess; how can I use printers which are plug and play in windows?07:46
karljpwhat does the battery estimate say at least?07:46
kestasits easy geogeo07:46
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geogeoI've gained 15 minutes power07:46
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kestastype apt-get supsd07:46
kestas*cupds07:46
geogeocupsd ?07:46
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frankpsAnyone here with Hula experience under Ubuntu07:46
jamesiokestas, don't offer help if you're going to call people stupid.07:46
karljpand if cupsd wasn't installed by default, how did you manage that?07:46
xilch|wAirWays: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes07:46
chaoticoz_hp_ : still there?07:46
gazziehelpoc, i had fglrx installed ok the other, fgl_glxgears running OK, now it's gone back to that mesa thing07:46
geogeoI've got cupsd07:46
geogeomy printer isn't on the list07:47
gazziei let my friend fiddle with something to get quakeworld working and he's reset it somehow07:47
gazzie:P07:47
jeroen_geogeo: system -> administration -> printing didn't help?07:47
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_hp_chaoticoz, yes07:47
chaoticozcool07:47
jeroen_gazzie, check your xorg.conf07:47
Dutchcrimsun, you there again ?07:47
chaoticozso how can i do it with /mount?07:47
jeroen_gazzie, change ati in fglrx07:47
geogeoit's okay for the battery karljp07:47
geogeotime is increasing =] 07:47
geogeojeroen_,  ?07:47
karljpgood good :)07:47
geogeomy printer isn't on the list07:47
kestashaha07:47
kestascourse it isnt07:47
_hp_chaoticoz, what are you looking to do?07:47
kestasthis is linux after all07:48
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geogeoI have to use turboprint ?07:48
jeroen_geogeo, what printer is it07:48
geogeoi560 (canon)07:48
chaoticozmount a hdd to let normal user use it :o07:48
kestasokay okay geogeo07:48
chaoticozw/o restarting07:48
jeroen_kestas, what you say is useless07:48
kestasheres how you do it: rm -rf *07:48
jeroen_kestas, this is a support channel07:48
kestasand install windows07:48
jeroen_don't listen to kestas07:48
jamesiocan someone get rid of him?07:48
geogeothis is not funny kesta07:48
kestasits not that hard07:48
geogeos07:48
gazziewhat is     Identifier                          "ATI Graphics Adapter"07:48
gazzie    Driver                              "fglrx"07:48
_hp_chaoticoz, did you edit your fstab correctly? becuase if you did you can just do umount -a and then  mount -a07:48
kestasI guarentee it will work straight away07:49
Dutchkestas is just a poor troll looking for attention.. disregard him.07:49
chaoticozoh07:49
kestasseriously07:49
jeroen_Amaranth, bob2 crimsun daniels tritium (ops) please kick kestas; he's being a bitch07:49
geogeodon't reboot, just mount -a07:49
geogeosudo mount -a07:49
karljppmount!07:49
chaoticozworks! :D07:49
chaoticozthx alot07:49
chaoticoz:)07:49
geogeoso jeroen_ do you know a solution for the printer ?07:49
Amaranthjeroen_: I'll keep an eye on him.07:49
jeroen_gazzie, that's okay07:49
tritiumjeroen_, what's going on?07:49
karljpjust some mild trollage07:49
jeroen_tritium: read the stuff kestas said07:49
Amaranthtritium: He is telling people to rm -rf * and install windows, just your average troll.07:50
geogeoahha my trackpoint doesn't work anymore07:50
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geogeobattery is increasing07:50
jeroen_geogeo, no07:50
tritiumkestas, please...07:50
geogeobut trackpoint disappeared ahah07:50
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geogeokestas, we say u re not funny07:50
geogeonot even nasty, just a jerk07:50
Amaranthignore him and he'll leave07:50
whyzoi, where's the equivalent of /etc/modules.conf in ubuntu?07:50
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xilch|wsheesh - relax people, it's not like people are buying into kestas' crap07:50
_hp_if you want to install windows you don't have to do rm -rf *, you can just put the windows cd in and tell it to format everything07:50
os|gazrestarting X fixed that...07:50
geogeodefinitively Amaranth07:50
os|gazi have another qurey though, i'm trying to run Fuhquake-GL (quakeworld client)07:51
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os|gazand i'm getting really crappy FPS07:51
Dutchgeogeo, disregard him.. You are giving him exactly what he want.. The attention he can't get out in real life.07:51
os|gazlike 2/3 FPS :P07:51
os|gazwhen i load fuhquake it says it is still using mesa07:51
jamesiodutch, that's funny.07:51
os|gazhttp://ninjapirates.net/fuhquake116.jpg <--07:51
fepi need help to configure my mouse, i have a genius with net-scroll, that's is connected on the serial port, not on ps2, somone nows how i solve this?07:51
geogeoit's okay, i cant see him anymore dude07:51
os|gazlie there07:51
os|gazany ideas?07:51
Amaranthosity: run this in a terminal 'glxinfo | grep Direct'07:51
os|gazfglrxinfo reports back as it shoul do.07:51
Seveasfep, have you searched the forums?07:51
Amarantherr, os|gaz07:51
fepyep07:51
chaoticoz_hp_ : is there a good mp3 player coming with ubuntu=07:51
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gazzie:)07:51
chaoticoz?*07:51
xilch|wbunch of crybabies07:51
gazzienothing came up Amaranth07:51
fepthere's was just help of other kinds of mouss07:52
geogeoso, nobody knows how to install a printer which isn't in cupsd ?07:52
geogeoI'll have to spend time on it !07:52
kestastrollage xilch|w07:52
tritiumAmaranth, thanks...07:52
kestastrollage07:52
_hp_chaoticoz, check out the Music Player in Apps > sound and video, much like itunes... you can also try xmms07:52
Seveasfep, so you must have found: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3839.html07:52
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Amaranthgazzie: sorry, it's a small d: 'glxinfo | grep direct'07:52
zxchow do you change the program which default opens say opens .mp3?07:52
Seveasfep, just replace xserver-xfree86 with xserver-xorrg07:52
FackamatoCan anyone help me with NFS?07:52
Seveasfep, just replace xserver-xfree86 with xserver-xorg07:52
kestasmuch like itunes except it thinks every mp3 with a slightly different idv2 tag is a different album07:53
Seveaszxc, system -> preferences -> preferred applications07:53
fephmm, i was tryng in the hoarin forum ;)07:53
FackamatoI've set up hosts.allow and exports, and nfs-kernel-serevr, modules are loaded, I can telnet to port 139, but the other computer gets "access denied" when trying to mount :/07:53
chaoticozthx again _hp_ :)07:53
feptnk u :))07:53
karljpanyone know how to give a fat32 volume a volume name?07:53
Seveasyw07:53
gazziedirect rendering: Yes07:53
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kestas139 is SMB Fackamato07:53
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karljpso it doesn't just pop up as"200gig media" and be mounted as /media/usbdisk?07:53
Amaranthgazzie: hrm, no idea then07:53
kestasboot up into Windows karljp07:53
gazzieproblem seems to be that fuhquake is using mesa instead of fglrx.. if that makes sense to you07:53
kestasits much easier from there07:53
chaoticoz_hp_ may i query you?07:53
gazzienot sure i've got the terminology07:53
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chaoticozso much chat in here, hard to see what you write :)07:54
jeroen_chaoticoz, _hp_ I suggest beep-media-player. it's xmms but better :p07:54
chaoticoz:o07:54
Amaranthtritium: I'll let you decide on this one, I'm still new. :)07:54
karljpthanks for the tip kestas! that sounds like exactly what I was looking for07:54
geogeobeep doesn't work on my computer07:54
geogeoit's strange..!07:54
_hp_i'm pretty content with rythmbox07:54
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kestasIm here to serve karljp ;)07:54
karljpgeo: did you change beep to output esd?07:54
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geogeoyeah07:54
karljpit tries alsa by default and will freeze07:54
_hp_only thing that bothers me is that i can't send it to the tray, like gaim07:54
karljphmm, oh well then :)07:54
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geogeoajaj07:55
TeamMCCanyone here used freenet ?07:55
Amaranthchaoticoz: That's why we put the name of who we're talking to in front of our messages. Makes it easier to follow.07:55
geogeoand anybody knows a good player like rythmbox ?07:55
geogeo(another)07:55
chaoticoz:o07:55
geogeosome itunes like07:55
jeroen__hp_, i like muine, it's great and it goes on the tray07:55
kestasitunes07:55
kestasoh wait thats not on linux07:55
Fackamatokestas: doh07:55
kestasdamn07:55
jeroen__hp_, it also displays the covers of albums07:55
Amaranthkestas: I'm working on that.07:55
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_hp_jeroen_, itunes-like interface?07:55
geogeoyeah07:56
Amaranth_hp_: Not even close to iTunes-like07:56
geogeooh07:56
geogeosorry.07:56
kestaswell I guess he could use winamp 507:56
jeroen__hp_, never used itunes, so I don't know07:56
kestasoh wait no, thats not on linux either07:56
Amaranth_hp_: It's much better.07:56
kestasdamn07:56
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JairunCalothheh, I was just about to look and see if there was a winamp port for linux... :(07:56
SeveasJairunCaloth, there is07:57
kestashahahah07:57
karljpxmms/beep are pretty similar07:57
AmaranthJairunCaloth: Winamp 3 worked on Linux.07:57
Seveasit's called beep-media-player07:57
sigmpxp rocks07:57
sigheh07:57
jeroen__hp_, http://muine.gooeylinux.org/muine.png07:57
kestasis there a windows port for linux?07:57
JairunCalothwinamp 3 is good07:57
sigmxpx I mean07:57
JairunCalothdo the plugins work?07:57
jeroen_JairunCaloth, yes07:57
Amaranthkestas: Yeah, it's called PieceOfShit 0.0.107:57
_hp_i'll give it a shot07:57
jeroen_JairunCaloth, no, not sure; skins work07:57
kestaswith a mere 3 hours of configuration you bet!07:57
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kestasI bet it is Amaranth07:58
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kestasand I bet it's GPL07:58
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AmaranthIf anyone else thinks he is getting out of hand ping me and I'll silence him.07:58
JairunCalothjeroen: so plugins may not, but skins work07:58
_hp_i thought he was kicked out07:58
jeroen_JairunCaloth, I don't know about plugins, but skins work07:58
kestasI bet its called PINAPOS (PINAPOS Is Not A Piece Of Shit)07:58
Amaranth_hp_: I never kick, I just +q (so they can't talk)07:59
jeroen_JairunCaloth, you could check the XMMS and/or the beep-media-player website07:59
karljpand it has a cuty pineapple logo07:59
kestasand I bet the developers thought the recursive acronym was very clever07:59
jeroen_Amaranth, that's more annoying than kick :p07:59
GNAMour PIL is 0.5% down07:59
_hp_were i an op he would be glined from the planet earth (bash.org quote)07:59
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SeveasAmaranth, by all means, please silence him...07:59
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Xanaduhey peeps07:59
jeroen_hi08:00
Xanaduwhats happening?08:00
DutchAmaranth.. Kick his butt back to kindergarten please..08:00
jamesioamar, I second the notion.08:00
jeroen_Xanadu, we're requesting "kick kestas"08:00
jeroen_Xanadu, it's a fun game, you should join ;)08:00
Xanaduare any of the sysops awake?08:00
jeroen_Xanadu, yes08:00
tritiumeveryone is capable of /ignoring him08:00
sigI really don't see what he has done wrong?08:00
sigoh well08:00
sigtritium: exactly08:00
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Xanaduwell there he goes08:01
Xanaduand here he comes08:01
AmaranthAnd there he is.08:01
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AmaranthJust ignore him.08:01
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_hp_hm.... muine doesn't add songs08:01
jeroen_what's a Tuborg?08:01
JairunCalothcan winamp skins be made to on XMMS?08:01
Xanaducan't u kline him>08:01
jeroen__hp_, no?08:01
jeroen_JairunCaloth, yeah08:01
sigjeroen_: sounds weird08:01
AirWaysHmm, so how I can update my Warty to Hoary?08:01
JairunCalothsweet08:01
_hp_i import a folder and nothing shows up08:01
sigjeroen_: looks like electronic greeting cards08:02
jeroen_AirWays, wiki08:02
sighttp://www.tuborg.com/green.html08:02
AirWaysWiki?08:02
jeroen_sig, what?08:02
XanaduAirWays: through synaptic change all the warties to hoaries08:02
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JairunCalothwhat's the difference between a .gz and a .bz208:02
XanaduAirWays then update08:02
_hp_oh, i see, how do i get it show all of the songs in the playlist?08:02
jeroen_JairunCaloth, both are compressed08:02
SeveasAirWays: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:02
XanaduAirWays then apply08:02
jeroen__hp_, "add song"?08:02
sigjeroen_: cool ass site actually08:02
AmaranthJairunCaloth: different compression techniques08:02
kestasseriously: in the time I have been here about 30% of the questions have been about how to get Windows like behaviour in linux08:02
kestasdoes that not bother anyone?08:02
AirWaysOkay...08:03
kestasdoes that not seem silly?08:03
Seveaskestas, you bother more people...08:03
JairunCalothjeroen: different programs then?08:03
AirWaysIs that dangerious?08:03
AirWaysIs there some danger to my files can be destory?08:03
XanaduAirWays no it's pretty safe08:03
AirWaysOkay08:03
AirWaysI'll try that...08:03
XanaduAirWays use Seveas' line08:03
AirWaysI hope that is safe :)08:03
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jeroen_JairunCaloth, they've been compressed with another method08:03
karljpthere's a reason people want windows like behaviour08:03
JairunCalothI've got my windows drive mounted so I can access them08:03
AirWaysJes08:03
Seveaskestas, people are used to some behaviour, what's bad for wanting to keep that behaviour?08:03
AirWaysBut08:03
karljpthat's a strong point of windows08:03
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karljpthat's why it sells08:03
AirWaysShould I close my psyBNC:s +08:03
_hp_jeroen_, it's working, how do i get it to show all of the songs in the playlist?08:03
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FlyingSquirrel32How do I install a theme into gnome?08:03
XanaduAirways your what???08:04
jeroen__hp_, what do you mean?08:04
DutchBBL08:04
jeroen_http://muine.gooeylinux.org/muine.png08:04
AirWaysMy psyBNCs ?08:04
AirWaysI have psyBNC in my server08:04
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Amaranth_hp_: Queue up all the songs/albums08:04
AirWaysShould I stop it?08:04
jeroen__hp_, does it look like that? http://muine.gooeylinux.org/muine.png08:04
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XanaduAirways dunno what it does but probably not08:04
flevourhi all08:04
_hp_jeroen_, yeah, i got it.. just select all albums08:04
karljpthat's an odd reason to like something08:04
karljpthough there are definitely aspects of mediaplayer that are horrible08:04
JairunCalothhow can I find out what packages are installed on my system?08:04
flevourdoes anyone have problems with printing lately?08:05
AirWaysSo I should close?08:05
_hp_FlyingSquirrel32, drag and drop into theme manager08:05
ubuntujust try out ubuntu it is wondefull08:05
jeroen_JairunCaloth, run synaptic08:05
SeveasJairunCaloth, dpkg -l08:05
tritiumJairunCaloth, dpkg -l08:05
flevourgnome-cups-manager sounds a little buggy08:05
Amaranthubuntu: Glad you like it.08:05
XanaduAirways no you can keep using ubuntu while it downloads the upgrades - it'll take quite a while08:05
Seveasor in synaptic: filter on installed packages JairunCaloth08:05
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jeroen_JairunCaloth, synaptic -> status -> installed08:05
ubuntuyes it is wonderfull just insert the cd08:05
karljpgah, cp -a for 73k files is taking forrrrr evvvvvverrrr08:05
darkauditkarljp: Media Player will mess about with the ID3 tags by default...08:05
karljpwell, I only use media player for playing videos08:05
karljpand it does that mroe relibaly than anything I've found on linux yet08:05
ubuntuand it starts itself and eveithinh is working08:05
flevouri configure my printer through it, but it keeps sending gibberish to printer08:05
karljpI used winamp for mp3s08:05
_hp_i think i'll completely remove windows xp as soon as i get photoshop installed on linux08:06
kestasnot likely08:06
karljphehe, good luck08:06
karljpwhich photoshop?08:06
Seveas_hp_, have you tried the gimp?08:06
Fator_Dee_hp_: gimp is not enough?08:06
FlyingSquirrel32_hp_, but what I downloaded is a tar.gz? I drag the entire file?08:06
karljpgimp is not enoguh08:06
Xanaduwhat is PsyBNC anywayz?08:06
darkaudit_hp_: GIMP :)08:06
ubuntumicrosoft finally get more players08:06
karljpno adjustment layers :(08:06
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karljpgimp is "one day" software.08:06
SeveasXanadu, an IRC bouncer, sort of IRC proxy08:06
_hp_i've tried gimp, it doesn't play good with the psds i have so far, plus i like photoshop08:06
Xanaduoooh08:06
tritium_hp_, use winetools, and you can install photoshop08:06
Fator_Deekarljp: explain "one day" software?08:07
Xanaduguess he closed it then since he's dissapeared08:07
karljptritium: can you get photoshop cs installed?08:07
_hp_tritium, i bought crossover... simpler08:07
karljpI had heard you could get 7, but not cs.08:07
tritium_hp_, okay08:07
darkauditxine + w32codecs plays 99.9% of videos I have... and mplayer takes care of the rest...08:07
_hp_cs works nice, cs2 doesn't08:07
tritiumkarljp, I have not tried.  I don't own any commercial software.08:07
karljpfator: it will be excellent one day, but not today08:07
Xanaduyou guys know that there's a photoshop frontend for Gimp?08:07
karljpxanadu: that's just a look/feel08:07
_hp_Xanadu, google gimpshop08:07
Fator_Deekarl: ok08:07
karljpit doesn't actually give you the missing things08:07
jeroen_Xanadu, what front-end?08:08
karljpfator: it is heading in good directions though :)08:08
Xanadulike they said gimpshop08:08
karljplike linux in general08:08
jeroen_Xanadu, yeah, didn't see that08:08
FlyingSquirrel32_hp_, ok and uninstall??08:08
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Xanadubasically same menu structure as photoshop so u can find yer way around easily jeroen_08:08
karljpit's slowly starting to be borderline usable as a desktop os.08:08
Fator_Deekarljp: well, I know what kind of software it is, 'cause I have used it for a long time :-p08:08
tritiumSeveas, are you using a bouncer or proxy?08:08
_hp_FlyingSquirrel32, remove theme?08:08
kestaswho cares that its no good? its heading in good directions08:08
Fator_Deekarljp: and I've been totally pleased with it08:08
Seveastritium, no08:08
darkauditXine has a skim feature... I haven't seen any other player that does that, in linux or XP08:08
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zxcSeveas, that only gives you the option for preferred apps for mail and internet :/08:09
FlyingSquirrel32_hp_, yes, how do I remove a theme?08:09
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tritiumSeveas, ah, I've got irssi-proxy running on my home server08:09
Seveaszxc, ok, them try right click on the mp3 file08:09
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Seveastritium, i don't have a home server :)08:09
kestasshouldnt you be using ogg?08:09
tritiumSeveas, oh, okay :)08:09
Seveasbut with a bit of luck i'll have a home clusteer in a few weeks :)08:09
kestasmp3 is for luz0rs08:09
tritiumnice, Seveas08:10
karljpmp3 is for users08:10
_hp_what's the appled for the systray where gaim and muine reside?08:10
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Fator_Dee_hp_: system tray?08:10
Seveasnotification area _hp_08:10
kestasmp3 is commercially owned08:10
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darkaudittry to find a COTS portable player that supports ogg08:11
nashhow can i install xorg devellopment headers ?08:11
_hp_arrr. i just i want to move the system tray to the bottom right instead of top right08:11
Seveasnash xlibs-dev?08:11
jeroen__hp_, just remove it and add it on the bottom?08:11
jeroen__hp_, then move it around to the left08:11
Seveasjeroen_, not needed08:12
Seveasjust unlock it08:12
nashSeveas, i don't see xlibs dev08:12
_hp_weird, it works08:12
Seveasand then move it :)08:12
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Seveasnash what do you need to cimpile?08:12
Seveascompile even...08:12
nashyeahconsole08:12
zxcSeveas, hmm, anyway to get it so when I double click on the icon it opens my preferred music app?08:12
karljpanyone know how to get the desktop contents flyout?08:12
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nashany ideas ?08:13
jeroen_zxc, right mouse button -> open with.. -> select your favorite app -> "always open with"08:13
tritiumflyout?08:13
Xanadunash i don't see it either - guess you'll have do download08:13
zxcjereon_, where's the "Always open with" bit?08:14
Seveasnash, apt-get install xlibs-dev08:14
karljpon xp you can click on a button in the start bar and get a flyout menu (popout) with all the items on your desktop08:14
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jeroen_zxc, sorry08:14
jeroen_zxc, you need "properties"08:14
Seveasit's there, even in main08:14
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jeroen_zxc, then "open with" and select it08:14
BrianB04Hey, I got a bit of a problem with Ubuntu. Connecting to anything on the internet is extremely slow, seems to be the DNS lookup takes forever, what's going on?08:14
zxcah k cool thanks jeroen_08:14
nashHowever the following packages replace it:08:15
nash  xutils08:15
nashE: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate08:15
SeveasBrianB04, maybe a hickup at your provider?08:15
BrianB04Seveas: Wasn't doing that in Windows...08:15
jeroen_BrianB04, have you tried typing in IP adresses in your browser (to check it's DNS's fault)08:15
Seveasnash, hmm?? it's in hoary main...08:15
kestas:)08:15
Xanadunash i got libx11-dev - maybe that's what u're looking for?08:15
nashapt-get install xutils08:15
nashxutils is already the newest version.08:15
kestasBrianB04, why not use windows then?08:15
kestaswouldnt it be easier?08:15
_hp_someone -q kestas08:16
Seveasdennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache show xlibs-dev08:16
SeveasFilename: pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs-dev_6.8.2-10_all.deb08:16
jeroen_kestas, I wonder seriously what you're doing in #ubuntu if you're just going to say "Windows is better"08:16
BrianB04Yea, it seems to be DNS lookups are taking awhile in Linux...hrmmm...08:16
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Fator_Deehe wants to grow to a big troll08:16
kestasprobably a microsoft conspiracy right guys?08:16
FlyingSquirrel32_hp_, Okay, I assume I can delete the .tar file I downloaded once it installs, right?08:16
jeroen_kestas, I won't join #porsche and then go say everytime someone asks something "just use a Jaguar!"08:16
_hp_windows is better for some things, like games. for everything else ubuntu is better08:17
_hp_FlyingSquirrel32, yeah08:17
darkauditAmaranth: k+b time I think...08:17
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karljphe's not doing very well08:17
thenukekestas: you unbelievable stupid08:17
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kestasgames, and printing, and office work08:17
Amaranthkestas: Please stop.08:17
nashXanadu, could you send me your source.list ?08:17
kestasokay okay08:17
tritiumkestas, why are you running xchat on linux anyway, if Windows is so much better?08:17
karljpto effectively troll he should be picking on a sly aspect of ubuntu's design08:17
karljpand questioning why it was done that way08:17
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kestastritium, you can get all linux apps on windows :)08:18
kestasthats the best part :)08:18
kestaseverything on linux you can get on windows :)08:18
tritiumkestas, you're running linux kernel 2.6.10-508:18
thenukeyeah, like linux kernel and everything08:18
Fator_Deebusted!08:18
kestasor did I alter the response?08:18
thenukeI would vote for kick :P If you do /last kestas08:18
kestas;)08:18
thenukeyou will see why we do not need this guy in here08:18
jeroen_I think kestas is funny when he's being stupid08:18
karljphe's really not getting the rants in response that any good troll should be chasing08:19
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darkauditkarljp: like what gtk does to stuff like file roller... selecting a folder in the right hand list by default and forcing the user to back up a level from where he should be in order to extract a file to where he/she *really* wants it to go...08:19
dabaSlon_slp /nick dabaSlon08:19
dabaSlon_slpheh08:19
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karljpdark: precisely :)08:19
dabaSlonkestas, go workn on your antispyware project...08:20
Scorpinfcan i write to ntfs partitions that i mount or should i let it be read only. ??08:20
darkauditI get the same thing in sound-juicer... if I want to use /usr/local/music, I have to select /usr/local, and then highlight music in the right hand list08:20
kestas?08:20
dabaSlonsorry, wrong nick completion08:20
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BrianB04I wonder if it may have something to do with Comcast's rather...horrid DNS servers at the moment...should change the DNS servers to something else.08:20
karljpdialogs just generalyl suck08:21
tritiumkestas, if you were an actual threat, I'd have dealt with you.  As it is, you're just amusing.08:21
dabaSlonBrianB04: I work tech syupport for comcast...08:21
kestasdealt with me how?08:21
jeroen_banning you, duh, kestas08:21
darkauditbug in gtk has been fixed upstream, but according to bugzilla, it's not going to be fixed in Hoary. Now *this* is something that seiously disappoints me about Ubuntu... not fixing seious usability bugs08:21
Amaranth/mode #ubuntu +q *!*@ppp170-213.lns1.per1.internode.on.net08:21
AmaranthLike that.08:21
darkaudits/serious/seious08:21
BrianB04dabaSlon, Been having issues lately with Comcast's DNS servers...08:21
karljpdark: yeah08:21
SeveasScorpinf, you could not even write if you mount it RW :)08:21
karljpit's been my big issue so far too08:21
karljpI love wht they've done with it08:22
dabaSlonbrian, by what sign can you tell that dns lookups are taing longer?08:22
karljpbut hoary is only good for another few weeks08:22
kestasIm just offering my support tritium08:22
karljpthen it just falls out of date08:22
dabaSlonBy not hving cleared out your cache recently?;)08:22
jeroen_kestas, hack me! ip: 127.0.0.108:22
BrianB04Well, when I type like google.com, it takes roughly 30 seconds to start loading, with plain IP, it's instant.08:22
karljpand no new updates til they freeze breezy08:22
dabaSlonBrianB04: there were 3 days in which for abnout 3-4 hours the dns servers were not working,.08:22
karljpthe bright side is that instead of having woody, and then just perpertually updating08:22
jeroen_darkaudit, I agree with you08:22
darkauditkarljp: but that's probably my only major issue with Ubuntu specifically :)08:22
dabaSlonThatrs it about dns servers.08:22
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karljpyou know that you can start fresh with a new release every six months08:22
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AmaranthThere is no way kestas is running Windows, he isn't lit up like a christmas tree port wise. :)08:23
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dabaSlonUsually, ppl hear DNS server issue, and then they think anything that they do wrong(routers, cache, not power cycling,.,,) has to do with DNS, since that is the new word they learned....08:23
karljpintegration and consistency leave a lot to be desired, but compared to how things were a few years ago, or even 1 year ago, it's greatly improved08:23
darkauditkarljp: I'll probably go over to Breezy... but not as early as I did w/ Hoary08:23
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karljpso I'll put up with it :)08:23
karljpyeah, breezy is going to need to be done, just not yet08:23
dabaSlondo you have a router, BrianB04?08:23
karljpI want wx 2.6, and grass 608:23
BrianB04dabaSlon: Yep, of course:)08:23
Xanadukarljp guys what's the bug?08:23
xilch|wAmaranth: when I run windows you don't see any ports open08:23
kestasyeah Amaranth wth are you on about?08:24
darkauditthey don't even have a testing CD out for Breezy yet, so I'm content to wait08:24
Amaranthxilch|w: But you're an educated user. :)08:24
dabaSlonwell, remove that and see, taht is the only way you can tell, and if it is slow after you remove router, power cycle, clear out cahce, you can be more certain that it is something to do with the service,..08:24
Amaranthkestas: Just messing with you.08:24
dr_willisHurry Up and wait! :P08:24
karljpxanadu: I'm not sure which one in particular dark is talking about, but there are lots of dialogs that behave in inconsistent manners08:24
karljpand it's annoying08:24
darkauditkarljp: gimme a sec and I'll get the bugzilla #08:24
karljp(I don't want to know, really)08:25
hawke_darkaudit: I'm kinda curious.08:25
dabaSlonBrianB04: but a DNS issue, somewhat unlikely.08:25
JairunCalothwhoh.... this irc client will fix 'teh' into the08:25
darkaudithttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661508:25
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hawke_JairunCaloth: annoying, isn't it?08:25
dabaSlonBut possibkle, I can chat into work to ask if you want...08:25
karljpjairun: welcome to xchat :)08:25
Xanadulol08:25
BrianB04dabaSlon, I'm gonna test something...see what happens.08:25
Q_ContinuumAnyone know offhand if a Netgear FA120 USB 2.0 Ethernet Adaptor will work natively under Ubuntu Hoary 5.04?08:25
foxinesscan any one point me how-to active this command on startup "hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd" , am try put it on /etc/hdparm.conf like this "command_line{hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd}" is there something im missed here ?08:25
JairunCalothbut sometimes I want to say 'teh' without it changing ti08:26
darkauditI like Xchat, but I'm really sold on irssi08:26
dabaSlonso, what you can test is cache, power cycle, and remove router, thats abotu it...firewall as well.08:26
woodmanhey i'm having dependencies problems using apt-get or synaptic, anybody up on that?08:26
hawke_JairunCaloth: settings, advanced, auto replace08:26
Seveaswoodman, libpostproc0?08:26
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Amaranthwoodman: Are you using breezy or any non-official repositories on hoary?08:26
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mainerdarkaudit: try jirssi(java-irssi),its nice08:27
woodmani'm trying to work out probs with evolution and it's exchange connector08:27
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dabaSlonHi, everyone!08:27
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zxchmm, is there anyway to refresh a frozen desktop (desktop as in where the icons are)08:27
Q_Continuumwell, I'm gonna find out here in a second, right after I reinstall grub...letcha know in a bit..08:27
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woodmanand install evolution-dev but get unresolved dependencies results, won't install08:27
Seveaswoodman, can you paste the complete error on ubuntu.pastebin.com please08:28
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woodmanyup gimme a sec08:28
foxinesszxc, ctrl+R08:28
dabaSlonBrianB04: they say there is no dns outage.08:28
dabaSlonto their knowledge at this time.08:28
zxcFoxiness, that does nothing :/...it still remains brown will no icons and no interaction x_x08:28
tritiumXanadu, would you sing a line or two?  ;)08:29
zxcI've tried Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, that doesn't do anything either08:29
karljphttp://beeroclock.net/~karl/file_browser-copyfailure-dialog.png  << that's my sort of problems08:29
Xanadugo for it tritium08:29
mainerzxc: ctrl+alt+backspace will restartx08:29
foxinesszxc, if this notwrok with u ctrl+alt+backspasce but not forget to save ur work first than login again08:29
tritiumXanadu, heh08:29
karljpwhy did it fail, what was the actual file, and why can't I resize that window?08:29
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woodmanit's up there08:29
dabaSlonzxc, what exactly does it look like?08:30
Xanadutritium actually the nick comes from the poem, but it always makes people think of something else08:30
dabaSlonzxc, and what made it look like that?08:30
foxinesszxc, top than killall something08:30
tritiumXanadu, ah, okay - hope it doesn't bug you08:30
dabaSlonwhich, xanadu? there is a castle, isbnt there?08:30
Xanadutritium nah not at all08:30
woodmantrying to apt-get back to the failed libraries just erros on different ones08:30
XanadudabaSlon: Kubla Khan by Samuel Taylor Coleridge08:30
foxinesscan any one point me how-to active this command on startup "hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd" , am try put it on /etc/hdparm.conf like this "command_line{hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd}" is there something im missed here ?08:30
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kevin06I am trying to use ImgSeek, but when trying to launch it from terminal I get an error about ImgSeekLib: No Module named ImgSeekLib installed. Googling for it didn't do much, and there is nothing on ImgSeek's site about this.08:31
tritiumhttp://etext.lib.virginia.edu/stc/Coleridge/poems/Kubla_Khan.html08:31
dabaSlonwow. nice...havent heard anyone know anything about poetry since I moved to N.A.(dont tell me you dont know what that stands for...)08:31
Xanaduit was actually a real place08:31
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Xanaduend of Marco Polo's journeys08:31
zxcdabaslon, it happens quite a lot. I right clicked on an icon, and it went all freezy and unresponsive. then it went pure white (my bg colour). Now it is completely unresponsive, gnome is fine just the desktop. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't fix it either it just changed it from white ---> Brown (the desktop colour)08:31
Seveaswoodman, what happens of you try to install one of thse packages that say 'is not going to be installed'08:32
Seveas?08:32
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dabaSlons, you can do otehr stuf, justs your desktop is frozen, hey?08:32
XanadudabaSlon what does NA stand for?08:32
zxcdabaslon, yes08:32
dabaSlonnortyh america.08:32
dabaSlonzxc thats weird.08:32
Xanaduaaah08:32
dabaSlonthats why I said, dont ask me that..08:32
woodmansame kind of error only with a different library, i've gone 5-6 steps into this and they keep on coming08:32
dabaSlon:)08:32
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XanadudabaSlon where did u move from?08:33
zxcdabaslon, happened more then once as well :/08:33
woodmani have my /etc/apt/souorces.list if it helps08:33
dabaSlonzxc, I had iother issues, not that one in particular.08:33
dabaSlonCroatia. In Europe, Ex Yugolsavia.08:33
Q_ContinuumMmmkay...booting in rescue mode (need to reinstall grub) I don't know which partition I should mount as the root file system.../dev/discs/disco/part{1,2,3,4}08:33
zxcguess restart is all i can do :/08:33
Fator_Deezxc: your desktop is unresponsive?08:33
Xanaduaah a Croatian08:33
zxcFator_Dee, yes08:33
dabaSlonzxc, have you logged out back in?08:33
zxcdabaslon, yes08:33
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Fator_Deezxc: execute nautilus08:34
foxinesszxc, i think this not like am understand on first , did change something on your home dir like .folder ?08:34
dabaSlonmy cpu is at 100% for some reason, for a while now...08:34
Seveaswoodman, it's odd since on here it installs without a charm, try aptitude -v install evolution-dev08:34
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Xanaduwell i'm not surprised that you hear less poetry in US than Yugoslavia dabaSlon08:34
Fator_Deezxc: or look from system monitor if it's there and kill it!08:34
zxcFator_Dee, using the run command in gnome nothing appears to happen08:34
woodmantried that already, same results08:34
dabaSlonyeah, and btw, the trash apple it taking 20% of it, constantly, I guess its time for me to log out back in as well.08:34
Seveasno more information about why it will not install?08:34
Badness45which dvd player us good08:34
BrianB04That solved it: DNS issue.08:34
gazziei downloaded the ati fglrx control panel, how do i run it?08:34
Badness45is giood08:35
zxcFator_Dee- System monitor? How do I get that?08:35
dabaSlonXanadu: I am in canada. I guess I hang out with the wrong crowd..08:35
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Fator_Deezxc: a sec08:35
gazzieinstalled via synaptic08:35
Badness45mplayer doesn't work08:35
dabaSlonBrianB04: they know of a DNS issue?08:35
Fator_Deezxc: system -> system monitor08:35
XanadudabaSlon I thought canadians were all intelligent - obviously good marketing08:35
mainerprobly a cron job running,although most default run-times are like 3-4a.m.,local time08:35
jeroen_gazzie: fireglcontrol08:35
darkauditBadness45: I use Xine... but you have to have libdvdcss installed08:35
gazziebadness try "totem dvd://" in terminal08:35
BrianB04dabaSlon, I just changed my DNS servers over to what I was using during all the DNS issues back in April, instant load...08:35
XanaduBadness45 I use VLC08:35
gazziethanks jeroen_08:35
Badness45where do i get the libdvdcss from08:36
dabaSlonhehe, cool, I wish I could explain how that can be completely unrelated to the COmcast server, but I dont have time,...08:36
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zxcFator_Dee- Not under System -> Monitor :/08:36
dabaSlonGood job.08:36
XanaduBadness: apt-get install libdvdcss08:36
Fator_Deezxc: umm, it *should* be there08:36
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dabaSlonXanadu: well, for one, you should see the misery the native/aboriginal ppl live in...08:36
woodmani'm stumped Seveas, getting a clean evolution install is the only thing holding me back from dumping winblows08:36
Fator_Deezxc: well then, do a ps -A | grep nautilus08:37
kestasisnt aboriginal reserved for australian natives?08:37
dabaSlonthen you should see my apartment..lol...and then you will know that there is a lot of vermin north of you,....08:37
dabaSlonvermin08:37
maineror a rootkit,maybe:)08:37
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dabaSlonkestas, google that.08:37
Seveaswoodman evolution-dev is not needed to install evolution...08:37
Xanadukestas no it's not08:37
kestask08:37
bluszczhello folks08:37
zxcperminder@ubuntu:~$ ps -A | grep nautilus08:37
zxc 8387 ?        00:00:17 nautilus08:37
zxc14013 ?        00:00:00 nautilus08:37
zxc14309 ?        00:00:00 nautilus08:37
zxc14379 ?        00:00:00 nautilus08:37
zxc14459 ?        00:00:00 nautilus08:37
zxc14463 ?        00:00:00 nautilus08:37
dabaSlonIts like a race/08:37
Badness45in terminal it says don't n how to handle08:37
Fator_Deezxc: no paste :-p08:37
XanadudabaSlon I'm not in the US (thank god)08:37
Fator_Deezxc: kill those numbers08:37
foxinesscan i highlight syntax on shall and how ?08:38
jeroen_hello bluszcz08:38
dabaSlonright, k, let me read some of these questions.08:38
zxcHow?08:38
Fator_Deezxc: kill "number"08:38
Fator_Deezxc: you might have to use sudo08:38
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foxinesssorry shell - shall08:38
kestaskillall nautilus08:38
kestasgeez08:38
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klaymhello people! could someone list me some optional desktop environments for Ubuntu that would be very lightweight, and with a nice mouse-2nd-button-menu-navigation thing instead of two panels on the desktop, as there are in Gnome.08:38
foxinesszxc, killall nautilus08:38
woodmanyup i know, i have it installed but am not able to use the global address list on e2k3 server. found this link https://mams.melcoe.mq.edu.au/zope/mams/pubs/Installation/evolution-exchange08:38
jeroen_klaym, XFCE08:38
kestashahah XFCE is real lightweight08:39
Seveasklaym, XFCE, ICEwm, fluxbox08:39
woodmanthat seems like it makes sense, i'm using hoary and evo 2.2.108:39
foxinessklaym, xfce4.208:39
dabaSlonzxc, teh desktop is a little weird now...08:39
foxinesskestas, and nice08:39
mainerklaym: xfce 4.2.1-2 from http:os-cillation.de   not an ubuntu pkg(be warned),but the most current xfce release08:39
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XanadudabaSlon why'd u move to somewhere so sucky?08:40
Q_Continuumyaaaay08:40
SeveasQ_Continuum, trekkie?08:40
dabaSlonmine, for example. every thing got deleted, and my trash bin is working 20% of a P4 2.2....so...08:40
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foxinessim like the way xfce4.2 act like on firefox08:40
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Q_Continuumyeah08:40
zxcI think it's all killed now, the -ps thingy shows nothing08:40
klaymok I'll try XFCE, but I'll play it safe and download an ubuntu supported version from apt08:40
dabaSlonXanadu: its pretty ok here, plus personal reasons, of ruin in a country like Croatia at this time.08:40
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tritiumXanadu, not sure what you'd find so bad about living here.08:40
Q_Continuumthe Netgear FA120 USB ethernet adaptor works out-of-the-box with Linux :-)08:40
kestas!!08:40
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karljpgurhhh the apt-get update gui thing won't let me use it's scroll bars or let me resize it08:41
Xanadutritium just going on dabaSlon's opinion - never been as far north in North America as Canada08:41
Fator_Deezxc: restart nautilus now08:41
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foxinessQ_Continuum, good to hear08:41
kestaskillall -HUP nautilus08:41
kestasto restart it08:41
Zambba_I have a problem with scandinavian characters and ssh/irc.08:41
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Seveashmm, what would happen if you sent noautilus a SIGSEGV :)08:42
zxcFator_Dee- Back to normal thanks ^^. So killall nautilus, restart nautilus everytime it happens?08:42
Xanadutritium don't really have an opinion of it - but i do know i wouldn't like to live somewhere so cold08:42
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tritiumXanadu, I mean the US specifically08:42
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Fator_Deezxc: yes08:42
Q_Continuumit's bad that i had to figure it out though, means the interal one doesn't work >.< (broken somehow..)08:42
Xanadutritium oh i don't really like the States08:42
crimsunmainer: come again?08:42
jeroen_Zambba_, you might have more success in #ubuntu-langcode, where langcode is the 2 letter code for scandinavia08:42
foxinessQ_Continuum, is there like that pc-card "bluetooth" one work out of the box08:42
dabaSlonwell, no its not very bad, but its like not something special, you know, a country...has resources, has work, low unemployment, and yet, over half the ppl live under the poverty line, but, yeah...08:42
Q_Continuumhuh?08:42
Xanadutritium I like New York and Seattle but you can keep the rest08:42
Zambba_jeroen_: Well #ubuntu-fi is dead ;)08:42
Zambba_almost08:42
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tritiumXanadu, oh, that's too bad08:42
jeroen_Zambba_, ah, okay08:42
Q_ContinuumI dunno.  I got nothin that's bluetooth.08:42
Badness45<Xanadu>: where do i get vlc from08:43
XanaduBadness45 Synaptic08:43
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ZambbaI don't want to use UTF-8.08:43
mainercrimsun:??08:43
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pierrowhat's the print network type to use for accessing to a Windows print ?08:43
AmaranthBadness45: apt-get install vlc08:43
crimsunmainer: what do you mean by not in Ubuntu?08:43
Badness45imma try it08:43
Xanadutritium where do you live?08:43
Seveaspierro, SMB08:43
foxinesstime to go c l8r08:43
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foxinessthanks Q_Continuum08:43
tritiumXanadu, New Mexico08:43
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Badness45i am in Newyork08:44
tritiumXanadu, temporarily in Indiana08:44
maineri said the os-cillation release is most current,because of xfld-desktop,my opinion,if i'm wrong,i stand corrected,n.p.08:44
Xanadutritium never been to either so i'll withhold judgement ;)08:44
XanaduNew York is a very kewl city08:44
crimsunmainer: the os-cillation release has several bugs that jani and I fixed in Ubuntu Hoary's Xfce packages.08:44
Badness45yup08:44
Xanadubut as any New Yorker will tell you, it's not part of the US - it's independent ;P08:45
crimsunmainer: 4.2.1.1+cvs08:45
karljpZambba, you still having problems?08:45
pierroSeveas, why do i've to chose a driver for the print ? won't it use the windows driver ?08:45
mainerworked fine for me,but,i stand corrected,i didn't know,maybe you should post it in the topic:)08:45
dabaSlonwell, you can only asy about N.A. that it is a place where everyone is looking omnly after themselves, and that some ppl ill be like, Yeah, its great, and feredom, blah blah, since they have money, but, another half of the ppltion, is under the poverty line, trailer parks, and so on.08:45
karljpyou probably just want to change the settings for your irc client08:45
kestassorry pierro you still have to use the driver08:45
Zambbakarljp: Not anymore, I changed Konsole's settings.08:45
Seveaspierro, not really08:45
kestaslet me save you some time pierro : its not gonna work08:45
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crimsunmainer: it's fairly well-known; the packages are in universe. (xfce4)08:45
Q_ContinuumWhat's the easiest way to install the OpenOffice.org 2.0 beta?  Do I need to compile from source, or is it in one of the repositories?08:45
karljpok, if you've got it how you want it cool08:45
karljp(but use UTF8!)08:45
Seveasneither do the windows machines that print via smb pierro, all pc's must have the driver installed08:46
Badness45they have a new hoary out right i installed it and my graphic card didn't agree with it so i have warty08:46
SeveasQ_Continuum, it's in universe08:46
Q_Continuumthanks.08:46
pierrodo the windows machin have smb installed ?08:46
crimsunQ_Continuum: actually it's in main08:46
kestasnope08:46
dabaSlonQ_Continuum: did you hear they started using Java now, which makes it somewhat unsuitable for OSS>08:46
ggellerMy Ubuntu 5.04 install is failing.  It goes through reformatting the hard drive, etc. then hangs when it gets to a screen that says "Installing the Ubuntu base system 6% Retrieving bsdutils..."08:46
Badness45can i use the live cd to see if it works now08:46
kestasyou have to install it08:46
maineri don't trust universe since the 2.6.11.6(?) kernel fiasco,just me08:46
XanaduBadness45 which card?08:46
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Badness45nvida08:46
Badness45laptop08:46
Q_ContinuumThey've been using Java forever..08:46
crimsunmainer: what fiasco?08:46
Badness45and my wireless too08:46
karljpbadness: I couldn't get my wireless to work on the livecd08:46
karljpyou were on a live cd?08:47
kevin06Anyone know how to fix the error ImgSeekLib :No module called ImgSeekLib installed? How do I install it?08:47
XanaduBadness45 dump the repository drivers and install from source08:47
karljpndis just outright failed and often hung on the livecd08:47
maineri used tthem and they locked up all the time,it's a known bug according to ubuntu08:47
Badness45nh08:47
Badness45nah08:47
Badness45i have warty08:47
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Seveascrimsun, the 2.0 beta isn't :)08:47
JairunCalothwill rar make .zip files?08:47
maineron some h/w anyway08:47
LarstiQggeller: I had that too with a incomplete iso, running md5sum revealed the checksum not matching up08:47
XanaduBadness45 warty aint bad either ;)08:47
Q_Continuumwith regards to the OoO.org controversy - people are complaining because it currently needs sun's java because the OSS versions of Java aren't current enough.08:47
crimsunmainer: that was not a 2.6.11 kernel, it's an _unsupported_ bk snapshot08:47
mainerright08:47
Badness45i was just saying if i used the hoary live to see if they fix the video card and wireless in that OS08:48
ggellerLarstiQ:  Good idea.  I'll check the md5 sum.08:48
dabaSlonQ_Continuum: so you ex[pect it to be something that will be worked out in the near future?08:48
crimsunmainer: just as there's an supported 2.6.12 bk snapshot now in Breezy universe08:48
pierrowhat's the syntax for 'host' while configurint a smb windows print ? {windows machin name} ?08:48
dabaSlonI mean, is it expected...08:48
crimsunan unsupported ^08:48
mainerits universe,universe ias all un-supported,correct?08:48
dabaSlonnot you...08:48
XanaduBadness45 I'm waiting patiently for them to support my ide raid08:48
crimsunmainer: correct08:48
Q_Continuumit's a matter of the OSS java implementations to have all the stuff implemented - which is what RMS said - people claim he was saying otherwise.08:48
kestaspierro, let me know when you give up08:48
Seveaspierro, depends on where you configure it, via the gui it's just the hostname or ip address08:48
Q_ContinuumSome people are blowing it out of proportion.08:49
pierroi'm using the gui08:49
Q_ContinuumIt's easier for the devs for OoO.org/Staroffice to use Java then write their own API, and since Java basically runs on anything, it just works.  *shrugs*08:49
dabaSlonQ_Continuum: well, glad that is not a real issue, end...08:49
mainercrimsun:cool,didn't know about the breezy kernel,thanks08:49
crimsunSeveas: OO.o2 isn't what?08:49
Q_ContinuumI don't see a problem running Java...08:49
dabaSlonnot that I use OOo that much, though, especially on Linux...08:49
Seveascrimsun, it's not in main08:49
Q_Continuumwhat do you use dabaSlon?08:49
Badness45later guys i have to go to work08:50
Xanadulater Badness4508:50
crimsunSeveas: check apt-cache policy openoffice.org208:50
sigme too08:50
dabaSlonQ_Continuum: gedit, vi:( I dont really prepare texts as such...08:50
Xanadui gotta go watch TV08:50
sigI hate work and I hate swing shift08:50
Seveascrimsun, it says hoary/universe :)08:50
dabaSlonthen for .docs, i use abiword, much faster load.08:50
Q_ContinuumOh, wait...I already installed it (DOH)08:50
XanadudabaSlon you should move to SA - half of Yugoslavia's here already08:50
LarstiQQ_Continuum: Java however, does not run on basically anything08:50
kestasabiword makes crappy .doc08:50
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crimsunSeveas: ah, hoary.08:51
dabaSlonXanadu: hehe08:51
crimsun breezy/main Packages08:51
sigkestas: lol, your so negative08:51
Q_Continuumew...they need to update the version of OoO.org 2.0 that's on here...ewwwwwwwwww08:51
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Seveasyeah, no sane persons use breezy now ;)08:51
Xanaducheers all!08:51
Q_Continuumthe .79 version...it's up to .100 now08:51
dabaSlonkestas: may well be, not sure, as I sadi, I dont erally prepare texts for ppl to see them,..08:51
crimsunSeveas: course not :)08:51
Q_Continuumthis is ancient...08:51
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sig.doc is MSword anyways08:51
dabaSlonnor spreadsheets, drawings, or such common office suite things...08:51
zxcFator_Dee, I found out what triggers it, if I right click on an icon then go to properties nautilus crashes08:51
Fator_Deezxc: yah, nautilus is kind of buggy08:52
kestasyeah but does word use .swg or .abi08:52
dabaSlonright...sig...08:52
AmaranthQ_Continuum: In hoary it'll never be updated, in breezy they'll probably wait for 2.0 final.08:52
sigkestas: who cares08:52
sigI don't use MS08:52
Q_Continuum*cries* the beta keeps having things fixed every two weeks...08:52
dabaSlonright, anyhow, a professor would likely care.08:52
dabaSlontell  us more, crimsun:)08:52
dabaSlonjj08:52
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SeveasQ_Continuum, they'd better do it right and simply fix all before releasing the next beta :)08:53
Q_Continuumevery two weeks they roll out a new beta of OoO.org 2.0, and this is like a 2-3 month old version08:53
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pierrohm, i'm trying to print something, i see 'job-printing' when clicking on the print icon in top-right, but nothing happens, for 3 minutes08:53
kestasI want to see an OpenAccess08:53
karljpit's hoary, no optional software updates08:53
kestasthat would truly impress me08:53
sigkestas: there is one08:53
sigan excellent one by OpenOffice08:53
mellocould someone help me uninstall LimeWire?08:53
sigworks awesome08:54
tritiumkestas, check out OpenOffice 2.0 betas, then08:54
Seveaskestas, there wil be OOo base, no idea on how good it is :)08:54
sigit is good08:54
dabaSlonmello: I could likely..08:54
sigI use the same stuff at work with both08:54
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mellosweet08:54
Seveasso it can handle .mdb files?08:54
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dabaSlondid you download it, and did you perhaps follow the ubuntuguide?08:54
kestashmm well wait and see if its any good08:54
chaoticozhey guys.. can anyone help me starting ssh?08:54
goldfishchaoticoz: what's up?08:54
kestasfuck off everyone with all the CTCP VERSIONs already08:54
Seveaschaoticoz, type 'ssh' in a terminal :)08:54
kestasjeez08:55
tritiumkestas, please tone down the language08:55
sigssh name@ipaddress08:55
dabaSlonwhat is ctcp?08:55
Seveaskestas, just as people can ignore you, you can ignore the CTCP;s08:55
kestaskk08:55
dabaSlonand, why does it make you mad...08:55
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Q_Continuumkestas: the OoO.org 2.0 betas are quite good already :-)08:55
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kestashahah everyone is CTCP VERSIONing me you tools08:55
kestashmm Ill try them out some time08:55
goldfish:)08:55
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tritiumkestas, and also don't be calling people names...come on, man08:56
kestasokay okay08:56
Q_Continuum*jumps on the bandwagon*08:56
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dabaSlonbe humanity to others, kestas:-p08:56
kestasright 'linux for humans'08:57
kestasas opposed to what?08:57
Fator_Deekestas: how does it harm you? you fear that they are going ho h4x0r your butt :-p08:57
Fator_Dee*to08:57
sigkestas: dude why are you being an idiot?08:57
mirakkestas: opposed to unsuable operating system08:57
mirakread debian ^^08:57
kestaswho other than humans would use linux?08:57
Seveassig, language please...08:57
dabaSlonok, ok, but who was the wise guy??08:57
Fator_Deepenguins of course08:57
dabaSlon:)08:57
mainerlike you and xanadau dissing theu.s.,there poverty everywhere,dude,try africa,croatia for a start,lol08:57
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Badness45ok quick question the vlc plays good but with  no sound08:58
dabaSlonFator_Dee: :)08:58
ThePunisherhi08:58
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mirakI was jogging around paris08:58
dabaSlonbadness does it freeze, do other programs produce sound?08:58
Badness45no08:58
Badness45yeah08:58
dabaSlonyo punisher.08:58
Badness45the xine08:58
sigmplayer08:58
Badness45but the xine doesn't play as smooth as vlc08:58
mirakthere is guys living under a bridge in caravans and wood house. There is rats near them. And last but not least, a train is crossing the bridge08:59
mirakthey live in hell08:59
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SeveasBadness45, is vlc's output set to esd?08:59
Q_Continuumis there any performance benefits seen from switching from linux-image-i386 and linux-image-2.6.10-5-i386 to their K7 counterparts? (AMD Athlon XP)08:59
sigmirak: sucks to be in paris08:59
dabaSlonmirak: I feel that, same everywhere...08:59
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signo such things as bums in Idaho08:59
SeveasQ_Continuum, yes there is08:59
sigthey would die08:59
miraksig: people sucks in paris08:59
Badness45how could i tell08:59
Gnimshhello08:59
dabaSlonexcept in like, east timor or somewhere before the war...man, teh world sucks...a little.08:59
sigtoo cold in the winter and too hot in the summer09:00
Q_Continuumand how do I switch to it, just install those new packages, and select them on bootup?09:00
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sigdabaSlon: I was in East-Timor09:00
dataw0lf|wcorrect.09:00
miraksig: I am not from orinating from paris, and I am here for studies, and I am not sure I will stay here09:00
jeroen_good luck, Gnimsh09:00
sigOperation Stabalize09:00
Gnimshthanks09:00
sigthen became Operation Warden09:00
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chaoticozhey guys.. how can i install an mp3 codec for the ubuntu Music Player?09:00
dabaSlonbig city,09:00
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Q_Continuumdataw0lf, you talking to me? lol09:00
kestassave yourself some time and dont bother Gnimsh09:00
dataw0lf|wQ_Continuum: yes.09:00
Q_Continuummmmkay..09:00
dabaSlonkestas?09:01
ggellerLarstiQ:  This iso was OK, but something went wrong when I burned the CD.  I mounted the iso and did diff -r -q between the iso and the CD and found the problem.  Now burning a new CD.09:01
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jeroen_chaoticoz, check the wiki on "restricted"09:01
Q_Continuumdo I need both the linux-image-K7 and the linux-image-2.6.10-5-K7 packages?09:01
chaoticozthe wiki?09:01
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Gnimshkestas?09:01
chaoticozwhats the wiki? :x09:01
Gnimshwhy is that?09:01
SeveasQ_Continuum, try linux-k709:01
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Q_Continuumthat's what I"m doing.09:01
sigGnimsh: he has some social problems09:01
tritiumGnimsh, he's just trolling...ignore him09:01
kestaslinux-image-k7 is dependent on the current linux-image-k7 version09:01
dabaSlonhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage has a search09:01
Seveasit will install the kernel and the restricted modules09:01
sigtritium: boot him09:01
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kestasits just for convenience09:01
sigwhy allow this crap in here09:01
Badness45no way to fix the sound in vlc?] 09:01
JairunCalothchaoticoz: this website is awsome http://ubuntuguide.org/09:02
dabaSlonand, when you search, search for restrictedformats one word.09:02
SeveasQ_Continuum, the others lixe linux-image-k7 are dummy packages needed for smooth upgrades09:02
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Gnimshkk09:02
sigwhen Ops don't boot these people it ruins channels fast09:02
tritiumsig, I don't think that would be appropriate right now09:02
sigtritium: of course it would09:02
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sighe's been here all day doing this09:02
SeveasQ_Continuum, so if you install linux-k7, it'll seem to install a lot, but actually it doesn't :)09:02
dabaSlonjust let him be...09:02
tritiumsig, ignore him09:02
Seveasjust the needed things09:02
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Q_Continuumit's only like 47MB for the whole thing (added one other tiny package)09:02
dabaSlonwho cares, Ubuntu to him as well.09:02
Q_Continuumlol09:02
Q_Continuum"Ubuntu to him as well." heh09:03
dabaSlonUbuntu for all...!!09:03
mirakI am surprised there is not more people shooting the others in paris09:03
HappyFoolis there anything wrong with the package repository?09:03
Gnimshnext question.  I get to the part about setting users and passwords, and what I type for the pass does not show up on the sc reen, but it does go through the process when I hit enter.  Does the installer not echo the password for security?09:03
kestasis there really any performance gain in switching to a different kernel though?09:03
foxinesshow can i change the label of fat32 ?09:03
Q_ContinuumUBUNTU FOR EVERYONE!09:03
mirakmaybe the difference is that weapons are not legal09:03
HappyFooli'm getting warnings/errors about missing files09:03
Q_ContinuumEveryone enjoy your Ubuntu today!  and everyday!09:03
Gnimshlol09:03
sigmirak: they are here09:03
kestasubuntu for masochists09:03
gazziei can't get flash in firefox working (amd64)09:03
gazziehelp09:03
dabaSlonmirak: that is unfortunately something particular to the states, as Moore was trying to find out...09:03
gazzie:P09:03
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SeveasGnimsh, it;s a security measure indeed09:03
Q_Continuumgazzie: there is no flash player for amd6409:03
Gnimshcool09:03
mirakdabaSlon: ys but it's unhuman09:04
sigthey should give out guns in Paris09:04
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sig:)09:04
dabaSlonmubuntu for kestas09:04
Q_Continuumthere's a gpl'd player supposedly...but I gave up on compiling it.09:04
gazzie...09:04
darkauditok... I'm trying to get my apt preferences to ignore backports ver of Firefox, but *just* firefox... I haven't quite got that working...09:04
kestasQ_Continuum, there is a flash player for amd6409:04
kestasits just not on linux09:04
Q_Continuumthere is?!?!?!?09:04
mirakyou can take the metro or rer train 2 hours a day and meet ABSOLUTELY NOBODY09:04
Q_Continuumawwww09:04
Q_Continuumdon't get my hopes up like that man09:04
gazzieso i have to put up with firefox crashing whenever i get to a flash page?09:04
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jeroen_Q_Continuum, gplflash is in universe09:04
gazziewhat the fuck :(09:04
miraknobody will ever talk to you in the metro09:04
dabaSlonQ_Continuum: lol...09:04
kestasgplflash!! lmao09:04
Q_Continuumyour best bet would be to install a 32-bit chroot and install a 32-bit version of firefox.09:04
sigtritium: fantastic responses he's giving newbies09:05
sigjust great09:05
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gazzienothing called cplflash in my synaptic09:05
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Q_ContinuumI tried installing GPL flash..do you realize how much crap you have to compile to install that darned thing?09:05
kestaslast time I tried gplflash it managed to display a piece of text moving across the screen and thats about it09:05
jeroen_kestas, gplfalsh rules09:05
Q_Continuumyeah gazzie it's not on the 64-bit native yet either09:05
gazziegpl even09:05
gazzielajsd'lkjsad09:05
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Q_ContinuumI had to compile it myself09:05
Gnimshthe last time I put in the password though, it didn't work when I went to log in09:05
kestasthat was a while ago though09:05
dabaSlonmirak, its a cultural shock, the ppl were conditioned not to by long years of ex[perience, I suggest that when uin Rome, do as Romans do...09:05
jeroen_Q_Continuum, it's in universe; no compile09:05
Q_ContinuumI stopped about 1/2 way through after beating my head on it for several hours09:05
mirakflash gpl or not sucks. it's just a cpu hog09:05
Q_Continuumon amd64?09:05
GnimshI'm reinstalling09:05
dabaSlonThose are big, heartless cities, man, dont get caught up.09:05
gazzienot on amd64 it's not09:06
mirakdabaSlon: what do they do ?09:06
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Q_Continuumnot that I recall seeing09:06
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kestasyeah but how can you play bash the penguin onto mines and spikes flash game without flash?09:06
Q_Continuumjeroen_, it's NOT in universe for the amd64 arch09:06
dabaSlonwhich part?09:06
gazzieroot@pogo:~ # apt-cache search gplflash09:06
gazzieroot@pogo:~ #09:06
Q_Continuumfor i386 it is in universe09:06
gazzie:|09:06
jeroen_Q_Continuum, ahh..09:06
mirakpeople are just pussies. they are fucking scared09:06
dabaSlonth eiobg city reference is taht you can end up in the river in no time...09:06
LarstiQmirak: in paris?09:06
mirakthey prefer watch TV and see shit life of the others in reality shows09:06
miraklol09:06
mirakam I angry ?09:06
kestasyoure so enlightened mirak09:06
mirak:)09:06
Q_Continuumamd64 gets the shaft in a bunch of areas I'm finding09:06
mirak:D09:06
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Q_Continuummacromedia doesn't care about us09:07
gazzieuhuh09:07
gazziei'm close to going back to windows09:07
Q_Continuumnoooo09:07
goldfishnooooo09:07
Q_Continuumjust goto i38609:07
kestasgo with that instict dude09:07
Q_Continuumif you have to09:07
dabaSlonamd64, pc, and all non mainstream technologies do get shaffted somewhat...09:07
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goldfishwindows 3.1 !!!!09:07
klaus^^^hello09:07
klaus^^^need help09:07
_hp_how do i get my terminal to be transparent?09:07
goldfishhi klaus^^^09:07
kestasyoure doing yourself a favour09:07
klaus^^^how to setup an ftp server09:07
klaus^^^?09:07
kestasxcompmgr09:07
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kestas_hp_09:07
mirakgazzie: sometimes you need to take a break09:07
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ompaulgazzie, you are going to hand back your freedom09:07
klaus^^^hi goldfish09:07
goldfish_hp_: u got an nvidia card?09:07
dabaSlon_hp_: in the preferences under edit.09:07
gazziei just like it when stuff works first time...09:08
goldfishklaus^^^: ubuntuguide.org i think tells you09:08
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klaus^^^how to setup an ftp server09:08
darkaudit'course I *was* wearing an Arsenal jersey :)09:08
HappyFoolwhere are the MD5 sums that apt uses to check Package.gz files?09:08
Q_Continuumjust install i386 if you have to Gazzie...it'll give you Ubuntu anyway, and it works quite well.09:08
klaus^^^no ftp guide09:08
klaus^^^just apache09:08
kestasdabaSlon, that kind of transparancy blows09:08
dabaSlongazzie: yeah, choose flash over a server....09:08
goldfishah right :/09:08
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kestasyou just see the desktop, you dont see the window behind09:08
dabaSlondepends on what you do with your compuetr..09:08
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gazzienot just flash09:08
strikermicettorver irc.tin.it09:08
jeroen_Q_Continuum, I use i386 on my AMD6409:08
kestasI hit old ladies with it09:08
klaus^^^ftp server help pls09:08
goofriderwhy would going back to windows help?09:08
Seveasklaus^^^, apt-get install vsftpd09:08
dabaSlonkestas: that is the only one..in gnome...09:08
kestasbecause its easier09:08
Q_Continuumjeroen_, thats why you've got gplflash :-)09:08
Seveasklaus^^^, and read its manual09:08
goofriderWindows doesn't have an AMD64 flash plugin wither09:09
jeroen_Q_Continuum, yes09:09
klaus^^^k09:09
gazziewould going to i386 mean reinstalling entire ubuntu?09:09
gazzielosing settings etc?09:09
Q_Continuumyeah09:09
kestasdabaSlon, I dont know what youre on about09:09
Jalla^my NTFS-partition is occupying my entire 160GB hdd. any suggestion for how to squeeze in ubuntu?09:09
goofriders/wither/either/09:09
gazziei have a windows xp install on this machine and flash works fine on it goofrider09:09
Q_Continuumbut it's better than windows :-) people might be able to help you save your settings etc09:09
dabaSlonkestas: dabaSlon, that kind of transparancy blows dabaSlon: kestas: that is the only one..in gnome...09:09
Seveasgazzie, you can backup your homedir though, to restore your settings...09:09
kestasyou can use all ubuntu apps in windows Jalla^09:09
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goofridergazzie, Flah works fine on me too (i386)09:09
kestasyeah but you can use transset09:09
kestasto get real transparency09:09
kestasif youve got an nvidia card09:10
goldfishkestas: xcompmgr and transset09:10
goofridergazzie, have u tried the flash-nonfree package in multiverse?09:10
goldfishshite09:10
LarstiQkestas: not just nvidia09:10
goldfishkestas: sorry :)09:10
kestasand its real so you can see whats behind the window09:10
kestasLarstiQ, yeah but if it aint nvidia its gonna be slow09:10
gazziethere is no flash package for amd64 that i can see in multiverse09:10
kestasati linux support blows09:10
kestasand who can blame them?09:10
LarstiQkestas: not in my experience09:10
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ompaulkestas, in my over ten years of using the internet I have only done /ignore to two people you are such a candidate bet that makes you proud09:10
HappyFooli'm having a problem with apt-get. can anyone help?09:10
gazziei have ati and amd64, great combination...09:10
Jalla^<kestas> you can use all ubuntu apps in windows <- what does that mean?09:10
klaus^^^where09:10
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klaus^^^can ai find the ftp server manual09:11
klaus^^^?09:11
SeveasJalla^, it means kestas was being a troll09:11
Seveasklaus^^^, look in /usr/share/doc/vsftpd09:11
klaus^^^k09:11
Jalla^crazt krestas09:11
jeroen_Jalla^, he's just saying bullshit09:11
_hp_hm... i installed eterm through synaptic and it's not showing up in the applications menu09:11
goofridergazzie, but like I said, there probly isn't a flash plugin for XP64 either09:11
dabaSlonHappyFool: go ahead and ask the question...describe it, and give us links to pastebins where we can see exact errors.09:11
Jalla^well how do i squeeze in ubuntu?09:11
goofriderif u can get XP6409:11
goofriderLOL09:11
jeroen__hp_, use smeg or menu-editor09:11
Jalla^i gott 100% ntfs09:11
Seveas_hp_, that means it did not define a .desktop file :)09:11
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HappyFooldabaSlon: fair enough09:11
dabaSlonthanks, I really aim at fairness, so Iappreciate taht:)09:12
jeroen_Jalla^, QtParted, Gparted, Partition Magic, these kind of apps09:12
gazziewhat about java? does that work on amd64?09:12
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gazziei installed it according to ubuntuguide.org09:12
goofriderklaus^^^, try the dhelp or dwww package. Gr8 for looking for doco on your HD  :)09:12
dabaSlonum...09:12
gazzieand it doesn't work09:12
gazzie:P09:12
dabaSlon:)09:12
Jalla^jeroen_: ain't resizing my partition kinda critical?09:12
Seveasgazzie, did you download a 64-bit version of java?09:12
dabaSlongazzie, did you get a file taht says linux amd64 java?09:13
jeroen_Jalla^, yep. It's dangerous09:13
ghaishello guys how can i reduce the font size in the tty09:13
Seveasand also: ubuntuguid is wrong wrt java!09:13
gazzieshrug09:13
gazzie:P09:13
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dabaSlonor, as well, IBM has a java that is 64 bit...is tagt a PPC n the end, the 64 processor?09:13
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SeveasPPC64 != AMD :)09:13
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Seveasit's mac09:13
LarstiQdabaSlon: ppc64 is 64 bit, but not x86 :)09:13
dabaSlonghais: preferences...09:13
_hp_Seveas, how do i tell it to define a .desktop file?09:13
jeroen_Seveas, not only mac09:13
LarstiQSeveas: bigger iron I'd say09:14
nanot3chHow can I edit the meta data / tag data of an MP3 file in Rythmbox? When I hit edit and I want to change something, it doesnt let me...My music stuff is in my home directory, and I'm running rythmbox as a user as well....09:14
Seveas_hp_, use smeg, see the forums about the menu editor09:14
dabaSlonamd64 is a aPPC?09:14
ghaisdabaSlon: what do you mean preferences, i don't have a gdm09:14
LarstiQdabaSlon: no09:14
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dabaSlonwell there must be a blackdown, or ibm java for amds...09:14
SeveasPPC means powerpc, the processors that apple uses in their macs09:14
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dabaSlonyeah...duh, I know that. I am asking if the amd 64 is as well a ppc.09:15
LarstiQSeveas: and embedded ppcs, and ibm rs/6000, etc09:15
SeveasLarstiQ, true09:15
dabaSlonghais: where are you trying to change this?09:15
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SeveasdabaSlon, no amd64 is something completely different09:15
dabaSlonwhich terminal, wihch wm, which tty09:15
LarstiQdabaSlon: no, amd64 is x86 derived09:15
Gnimshok I have logged into Ubuntu09:15
ghaisdabaSlon: i only have a terminal <bash> no graphical interface09:15
HappyFoolok, my apt-get problem is summarized here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5KerMG38.html09:15
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GnimshI'm trying to access the synaptic package monitor, but it asks for a password09:16
GnimshMy pass does not work in it09:16
dabaSlonthanks...anyhow, gazzie, likely there is a java, look at IBMs site, and try to see at the wiki for restrictedformats that may tell you a link right away09:16
SeveasGnimsh, the password you use to login?09:16
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Gnimshyes i tried that09:16
SeveasHappyFool, this happens sometimes, usually it resolves after a few hours09:16
HappyFoolSeveas: ok, thanks09:16
SeveasGnimsh, are you logged in as the user you created during the install?09:17
Gnimshyes09:17
dabaSlonHappyFool: add your sources list to the summary...09:17
Seveashmm, what does sudo apt-get update say?09:17
Gnimshthe what?09:17
SeveasdabaSlon, you can read it from the error09:17
GnimshFirst time using linux, sorry09:17
dabaSlonHappyFool: not that it looks like anything I would know about...09:17
dabaSlonSeveas: yeah...:(09:18
dabaSlonI am a newbie...09:18
SeveasGnimsh, in a terminal you type: sudo apt-get update09:18
ggibeauanyone know if afs or arla will work on a amd64 system?09:18
Seveas(and hit enter)09:18
Jalla^any suggestions for a good win32 program that can resize my partition?09:18
SeveasdabaSlon, we all were newbies once :)09:18
GnimshI get an error msg that says "failed to run users-admin child terminated w/ 1 status09:18
dabaSlonrigght, I dont feel bad about it or anything...09:18
HappyFooldabaSlon: I assume Seveas is correct; presumably the repository is being updated (?)09:18
SeveasJalla^, Partition Magic is the best. But it's expensive09:18
darkauditJalla^: Partition Magic09:18
Jalla^hmmj09:19
dabaSlonor you can steal it...09:19
dabaSlon:-[09:19
SeveasdabaSlon, yeah, but we don't encourage that in here :)09:19
Jalla^i could :>09:19
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dabaSlon...but dont do that, that would suck...09:19
dabaSlonand so on/..09:19
Seveas;)09:19
Jalla^who knows, maybe i already did09:19
klaus^^^where is the conf file of that ftp server09:20
klaus^^^cant find it09:20
dabaSlonyour ISP knows, likely.,..:)09:20
darkauditgeez... clock keeps running fast... how often is it supposed to synchronize with the NTP servers if you have that option checked?09:20
gazziehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33869 <-- any thoughts on this09:20
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Seveasklaus^^^, should be in /etc/vsftpd or something09:20
GnimshSeveas, I'm running apt get now09:20
GnimshI think09:20
klaus^^^k09:20
Seveasdarkaudit, daily i believe09:20
nanot3chAnyone know why I can't edit MP3 file info in Rythmbox?...(It works in XMMS...)09:20
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GnimshSeveas I went to applications, run application09:21
Gnimshis that the correct place to run it from?09:21
jeroen_Gnimsh, just run synaptic09:21
SeveasGnimsh, not really09:21
jeroen_System -> Administration -> synaptic09:21
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HappyFooli thought his synaptic broke09:21
Seveasjeroen_, that was giving problems, i'm debuggingg :)09:21
jeroen_It's a graphical utitility for apt-get09:21
jeroen_Seveas, ah, okay ;)09:21
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jdubum09:21
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darkaudithail the jdub09:21
SeveasGnimsh, try applications -> system tools -> root terminal and use your password09:22
Gnimshok09:22
SeveasGnimsh, see whether that works09:22
klaus^^^is nnot in etc09:22
klaus^^^where is it09:22
klaus^^^?09:22
Gnimshnothig09:22
Gnimsh+n09:22
Seveasklaus^^^, try dpkg -L vsftpd, that will show all files it installed. Look for the configfile...09:22
SeveasGnimsh, it won't take your password?09:23
Gnimshno09:23
Seveasbut you can login with it?09:23
guptanany one managed to get smartlink modem working in hoary?09:23
Gnimshyes09:23
SeveasGnimsh, how long is this password?09:23
Gnimsh7 characters09:24
Seveasshould be enough too09:24
keffohm09:24
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dabaSlonwhat is teh first, third, fifth, and seventh?09:24
keffohow do i install new splash screens? done it once.. dun remember09:24
GnimshdabaSlon:  are you serious?  lol09:24
Gnimshits alphanumerica, if that makes a difference09:24
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Seveastritium, thanks :)09:25
tritium;)09:25
HappyFoolyou're sure you're not typing it in wrong?09:25
dabaSlonFailed to run gdmsetup:09:25
dabaSlon Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.09:25
dabaSlonis that it, gnimsh?09:25
keffooi?09:25
Seveasany idea on this tritium, password works for logging in but not for sudo. UID 100009:25
dabaSlonkeffo...just do it..09:25
Gnimshnope, dabaSlon09:26
dabaSlonIf not, art.gnome.org may have the faqs on it.09:26
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tritiumSeveas, hrm, let me read scrollback09:26
SeveasGnimsh, go to applications -> system tools -> terminal09:26
Seveasand in the window that opens you type: cat /etc/passwd | grep YOUR_USERNAME09:26
Seveasreplace YOUR_USERNAME with your actual username on that machine09:27
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HappyFoolhow about trying sudo in the terminal -- maybe the problem is with gnome-sudo ?09:27
SeveasHappyFool, that'll be step 209:27
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keffohm09:27
HappyFooland you might get some useful error message09:27
keffowhere teh hell09:27
Seveas;)09:28
Seveaskeffo, i'm here ;)09:28
Gnimshok I did that09:28
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Gnimshgot :/home/justin:/bin/bash09:28
Seveasit should say someting like justin:x:1000:100009:28
keffojust cant remember how i did install my last splashscreen ;p09:28
Gnimshyes it did that too09:28
Seveasnice :)09:28
Seveasnow try sudo -i09:29
GnimshIt says I am not in the sudoers file, and that it will be reported09:29
Seveashmm!09:29
Seveasthat's too odd09:29
GnimshIs there a way too put myself in it?09:29
Seveasa hard way09:29
Seveasbut the installer should have done that...09:29
tritiumGnimsh, this is a fresh hoary install?09:30
Gnimshyes09:30
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tritiumAs Seveas pointed out, the installer is _supposed_ to have setup the first user with sudo priveleges.  This is rather odd.09:31
Gnimshshould I try reinstalling?09:31
SeveasGnimsh, do you have pen and paper nearby? I will give you some instructions to do, but you have to reboot for it09:31
Seveasso write them down09:31
GnimshI can turn on notepad09:31
HappyFoolGnimsh: what does "echo $UID" say ?09:31
Gnimshk go09:31
TatsterHi , is there an Ubuntu equivalent to Group Policy controls in Windows Active Directory (for example for restricting access to Desktop settings)09:31
stormy73034any one know how to configure tightvnc server after u get it from apt-get09:31
SeveasGnimsh, can i talk to you in private, that'll be easier09:32
Gnimshsure09:32
GnimshHappyFool:  nothin09:32
stormy73034tatster kindof u need to use group policy manger09:32
Gnimsha blankline09:32
HappyFoolthat doesn't sound good09:32
Seveashmm??09:32
HappyFoolyou typed it with capital letters, exactly as i did?09:32
Q_ContinuumI want to set up VNC to work remotely from the outside world - what all do I have to do?  (configure router to forward port(s) I know) anything other than that?09:32
Gnimshno09:32
Seveasdo that :)09:33
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Tatsterstormy, is that install by default?09:33
Seveason linux capitalization matters09:33
Gnimsh100009:33
stormy73034tightvnc no09:33
Gnimshdamn picky linux09:33
Q_Continuumwhat's the best vnc to install for performance?09:33
tritiumQ_Continuum, if you use ssh tunneling, you don't even need port forwarding on the router09:33
HappyFoolah, ok, my hunch doesn't pan out09:33
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Q_Continuumtrue..I got that working on windows09:33
stormy73034i got it with snyptic09:33
HappyFoolguess the install went wrong or something. Seveas reboot it will have to be ;)09:33
Q_Continuumnow how would I do that tritium here on linux?09:33
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TatsterStormy, What does it allow you to control?09:34
tritiumQ_Continuum, with the "-L" switch for ssh09:34
Q_Continuumoh, when launching the client or the server?09:34
klaus^^^can you give me a ftp server with gui09:34
klaus^^^?09:34
Q_Continuumso when launching the vnc program I can use -L to force it to use SSH?09:34
mirakif I move the kernel file, lilo can't boot it anymore is that right ?09:34
stormy73034tatster gpmc let u set just about anything from control pannel access to ie restrictions09:34
klaus^^^hello09:34
klaus^^^ftp with gui09:34
klaus^^^?09:35
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tritiumQ_Continuum, client side, e.g., ssh -L 5700:192.168.1.100:5700 -N -T user@public.IP.address09:35
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HappyFoolklaus^^^: let me install vsftpd. one moment.09:35
klaus^^^k09:35
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klaus^^^i don't know what to do in vsftpd09:36
Q_Continuumno extra config to do server-side?09:36
HappyFoolklaus^^^: it looks like the config file is /etc/vsftpd.conf09:36
jeroen_mirak: yes09:36
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klaus^^^yes09:36
danko123456I found out why my gnome was being sketchy...I ran out of disk space...09:36
TatsterStormy, I think we are talking cross-purposes. I know about GPMC in Windows environment, what I am asking is, is there an equivalent in Ubuntu/Linux if I was to move away from Windows09:36
tritiumQ_Continuum, just have your vnc server running on the port you forward09:36
HappyFoolwhat do you want/need to do with the ftp server?09:36
klaus^^^i found that09:36
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Q_Continuumok, thanks.09:36
tritiumsure09:36
klaus^^^put some files so that somoene09:36
klaus^^^can connect09:36
klaus^^^and download09:36
klaus^^^just one user09:36
LoopStarhi everyone!09:37
dhashenhi just loaded ubuntu on my laptop - rocks! but can't load extensions on my firefox as its 1.02 - anyone know when repositories will be updated to 1.04?09:37
LoopStarmaybe you could help me with a small problem I'm having? I'v upgraded to the latest development release a few days ago. After the upgrade my usb card-reader didn't work anymore. I've found out that /dev/sda* has been deleted. I did a './MAKEDEV sda' in /dev which worked until I rebooted... the device nodes were gone again. do you have any idea how I could prevent them from being deleted?09:37
stormy73034tatster ohhh sorry im linux nebbie just starting with it fromwinodws backround my bad09:37
Hoxzer^Do you guys know any software for linux that is for using windows XP via remote desktop ?09:37
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stormy73034rdp09:37
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stormy73034hoxzer terminal server client09:37
dhashenvnc?09:37
Hoxzer^is it already in ubuntu?09:38
Q_Continuumyes.09:38
stormy73034yes09:38
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tritiumHoxzer^, Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client09:38
Hoxzer^hmm what I need to install for windows ?09:38
stormy73034applications internet terminal service clint hoxzer09:38
dingoIs there any IRC server in Ubuntu ?09:38
tritiumLoopStar, the topic asks that you not use breezy yet09:38
Hoxzer^where do I download that ?09:38
Q_ContinuumXP Pro or Home Hoxzer^ ?09:38
CarlKHoxzer^ - XP ;)09:38
Tatsterstormy, no problems.   I'm also pretty new to Ubuntu but I like what I see so far.  I just can't see how to replace some Windows functionality - I'm sure it;'s out there, but where?09:38
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stormy73034u can apt-get a irc server09:38
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tritiumdingo, apt-cache search irc | grep server09:39
dingoapt-cache search doesn't show any..09:39
danko123456dhashen: you sure you updated and upgraded your firefox and still nothing?09:39
dhashenyeah09:39
dingoI'm using hoary 5.0409:39
stormy73034tatster dunno this is the best flavor i found so far that i like09:39
Hoxzer^aargh what I need to instal to windows so I can use that internet terminal service09:39
CarlKtritium - try ircd09:39
dhashenrepos say 1.02 latest09:39
Tatsterstormy, me too so far09:39
tritiumdingo, that search should return quite a few09:39
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stormy73034hoxzer are u running ubuntu 5.0409:39
Q_ContinuumHoxzer^, are your running Windows XP Home or Professional?09:40
dhashenalso using 5.04 and edited apt list09:40
CarlKHoxzer^ - arrgh - it is part of XP09:40
HoxzerProf09:40
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dingotritium: none show.09:40
Q_ContinuumOk then you don't need to install anything - you need to follow the steps to make sure that Remote Desktop Connection will work.09:40
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tritiumCarlK, I'm not the one looking for one, but thanks09:40
aaronlol09:40
aaronI seem to have pissed off the guys in #debian09:40
aaronby telling them I run ubuntu09:40
Q_Continuummeaning configure your firewall, and make sure that the user is allowed to remotely log in09:40
LoopStartritium: ok. my fault. sorry for asking. thanks for you answer!09:40
Q_Continuumlol aaron09:40
tritiumdingo, make sure you have universe and multiverse setup in your /etc/apt/sources.list09:40
CarlKtritium - oh yeah...09:40
aaronso i thought I'd come talk to the friendlier people over here09:40
tritiumLoopStar, you're free to ask09:40
tritiumBut, we may not have a fix for you right now.09:41
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tritiumaaron, what did they say/do?09:41
Q_Continuumso Hoxzer just dig up the info (probably google it, it's on MS's site) for howto get Remote Desktop Connection configured server-side09:41
Q_Continuumthen use the client in Ubuntu to connect to it.09:41
Q_Continuumin fact...I'm gonna do that right now *laptop's configured* time to see performance :-)09:42
dingotritium, I have the extra packages09:42
aaronanyone here know any good media players that play wma?09:42
aaronI tried mplayer and beep using the synaptic packages09:42
aaronbut they failed09:42
stormy73034hoxzer in xp pro right click on my comptuer, properties, remote check all users to connect remotley if ur an admin on there u dont have to select the user other wize pick ur login09:42
stormy73034make sure the fire wall is set to allow remote connection on the ports09:43
LoopStartritium: I asked because there was someone in the news-forum having the same problem after upgrading to 5.04, so I thought it wasn't a breezy-specific problem. The links given in the forum didn't help, though. :(09:43
danko123456dhashen: the 3 and 4 are included in the 2, for some odd reason09:43
danko123456did you try your extensions, and they do not work/09:43
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dhashenyeah - firefox page does not allow me in - insists i must update to 1.0409:44
aarontritium, mplayer doesn't load properly..when I do gmplayer from a command line it just shows a black shroud where the graphics should be09:45
aaronand with beep, when I point it at my music folder, it doesn't load the wma's09:45
dhashendon't understand what u mean by 3 and 4 included in 2?09:45
aaronI tried locating the plugin, but the link from the site has gone down09:45
danko123456dhashen: there may be a way about it through the backports and that, breezy...but, if you try, make sure you go sstep by step, dont add a repo, and aptget update...upgrade.09:45
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danko123456cause hoary is stable, bob2 said thast they included the patches for 3, and 4, inot the stable 2...09:46
danko123456somehting like that.09:46
tritiumaaron, sorry, I'm not familiar with mplayer09:46
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danko123456I dont understand either, but bob2 said that last nioght.09:46
tritiumdingo, you're doing something wrong then.  Have you done an apt-get update?09:46
aarontritium: Don't worry about it, it doesn't work anyway =P09:46
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danko123456aaron: xine.09:46
dingotritium, yes.09:46
dhashenok - is there a howto?09:46
danko123456xine ui is what I use.09:46
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danko123456dhashen: not really.09:47
tritiumdingo, please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin.com09:47
geogeoyo09:47
dhashenhelp?09:47
JairunCalothdo I need wine and xine?09:47
JairunCalothor just one or the other?09:47
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tritiumJairunCaloth, they serve different purposes09:47
dhashenwhat if i just download the latest from firefox site and install? instead of aptget via backports - will this 'break' something?09:48
dingotritium, http://pastebin.com/283343\09:48
dingo(without the \)09:48
TatsterWhat's the best WAV audio editor for ubuntu?09:48
danko123456try it, if you can, it should not screw  anything up...I mean,..I just removed my fierfox...09:49
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tritiumdingo, you need to uncomment lines 19 & 20 to enable universe09:49
geogeohey dudes09:49
danko123456YO09:49
geogeoHas anybody of you ever installed a printer09:49
tritiumTatster, I like audacity09:50
aaronyeah09:50
geogeoon a machine via smb ?09:50
aaronno...just plug into the serial port09:50
danko123456dhashen: um,...I found a way to insatll 1.0.3/..09:50
Tatstertritium, are you familiar with Wavelab on Windows? If so, how does audacity compare?09:50
dingotritium, darn my copy pasting skills :)09:50
geogeomy printer is on a computer (windows) and I can see this computer through my router (under debian) with samba09:50
dhashenyeah?09:50
geogeodoes anybody know if it's possible to print from my laptop ?09:50
tritiumTatster, no, I haven't run Windows in years, sorry09:50
Tatsterno probs09:51
tritiumdingo, :)09:51
tritiumgeogeo, yes, it's possible09:51
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geogeooh ?09:51
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geogeobecause i tried (this is a printer which isn't in cups' list but it works with another driver)09:52
geogeoand I can't print from my laptop09:52
danko123456yup, remove your firefox, add these two to your sources: "deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" "deb http://manno.name/debian/ breezy cvs" , and update your apt-get, and then you will have the 1.03, but, I have no clue how good or bad that will be for your system.09:52
geogeomaybe should i put the printer on my router, and then samba will manage it (it's maybe easier)09:52
tritiumdanko123456, in general, backports are bad for your system ;)09:52
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dhashendanko123456:does your java and flash work etc?09:54
danko123456tritium, if he installs the .3 firefox, and removes the sources, does nothing else, like upgrade or something stupid like that, he should be almost fine, execpt perhaps for teh firefox...09:54
danko123456after the new version?09:54
dhashenyeah09:54
danko123456dhashen: :-p , how about you bork your system, and tell me...since I do not need the 1.0.3...09:55
IcemanV9bah .. qnext is ok - too jerky when you move on the desktop09:55
danko123456dhashen: I found you a package, in apt-get..09:55
geogeoi'm coming back in 2 minutes, I give you the time to think..=] 09:55
geogeosee ya09:55
dhashendanko123456 : dont you use extensions?09:55
tritiumdanko123456, yes, he should be okay09:55
dhashencan't live without mine!09:56
danko123456dhashen: nope... tritium: oooh. can not be athenitacated...malicious individual...09:56
tritiumdanko123456, huh?09:56
danko123456tritium: that is what synaptic tells me...09:56
danko123456for the 1.0.3 version09:56
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tritiumdanko123456, trying to do what?09:57
danko123456oh well, what the heck, Ill just clean up the mess, open up the closet get the bulletproof vest...09:57
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danko123456install...09:57
tritiumwhich package, and from where?09:57
dhashenbtw I'm a newbie - what does bork your system mean?09:57
tritiumbreak it09:57
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dhashenoh09:57
danko123456Special Ed, for those interested in a good rap song, and have not heard it yet..."the mission"09:57
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franshello09:58
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danko123456dhashen: yeah, me to a newbie...09:58
Fator_Deedanko123456: good rap sonh :-o impossible... ;-)09:58
danko123456o09:58
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TwoBitSpriteI was in here yesterday trying to get mpeg video working, and someone gave me a link to an FAQ that I can't find anymore... can someone provide me with a link to something like that?09:58
danko123456listen to it,. its pretty sweet,.,..09:58
dingodhashen, as I managed yesterday :)09:58
Fator_Deedanko123456: I'm not into rap :-p09:58
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danko123456Fator_Dee: hear the song...since yuo spent so much time already on it..09:58
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dhashendingo : what did you do?09:59
danko123456see ya tritium09:59
dingodhashen, only the applications that were running did something. Couldn't log in, couldn't do anything else....09:59
LoopStarbye09:59
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Fator_Deedanko123456: still, I doubt I would like it09:59
dingodhashen, power-outage during install.09:59
dhashenoooops09:59
danko123456Fator_Dee: wan it?09:59
Fator_Deedanko123456: no thanks10:00
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MuiskeGood day10:01
zxcanyone know how/a guide on installing and using wine?10:02
dhashenseems a little weird that 'stable' has some very recent software like gnome 2.10 - suppose just a matter of time before firefox is updated - I'll be patient10:02
HappyFoolmy understanding is that software is not upgraded in a particular release10:02
danko123456dude, I gave you a way, the fixes are in the hoary 1.2, I am downloading now, it is quite slow...10:03
HappyFoolupdates only include bug-fixes10:03
Q_Continuumanyone here used VNC?  I can start it, but it starts with a blank screen with the exception of a terminal window open...would like a normal gnome desktop.10:03
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danko123456goraneee...10:03
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HappyFoolQ_Continuum: this is a bit of a guess, but what happens if you run gnome-session from that terminal?10:04
gazziehow do i start proftpd once i've installed it from synaptic?10:04
HappyFoolsudo /etc/init/proftpd start, at a guess10:05
gazziethis config box came up and i chose inetd10:05
gazzienow what10:05
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Q_Continuumgnome-session: you're already running a session manager10:05
JairunCalothouch10:05
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gazzieheh10:05
gazzietoo much irc10:05
gazziejust did /join instead of cd10:05
gazzie;P10:05
JairunCalothlol10:06
TwoBitSpriteok, found the FAQ... but it mentions briefly the "debian-marillat repository"... how would I add this to my sources.list? I doesn't give an actual URL, etc...10:06
HappyFoolQ_Continuum: hrm. sorry, i give up10:06
Q_ContinuumI'm futzing with it10:06
gazzieProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.10:06
HappyFoolTwoBitSprite: take a look at http://ubuntuguide.org10:06
gazziewassat mean10:06
gazzie:)10:06
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geogeoback dude10:06
JairunCalothok, does wine need full RW access to the windows partition?10:06
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geogeocould anyone help me just a few minutes ?10:06
Q_Continuumanyone used VNC before?  Would like my gnome bars heh10:06
HappyFoolTwoBitSprite: and http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:06
geogeoabout printers through samba10:07
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HappyFoolgazzie: xinted is a sort of meta-server which starts up other internet servers when they are needed10:07
gazzieso how do i configured proftpd10:07
gazzie:)10:07
danko123456like what?10:07
Q_Continuumright now I just have to launch the apps from the terminal window, and I can't fullscreen one without losing the ability to switch back and forth.10:07
HappyFooli think when i installed it i selected the standalone option (i.e., not inetd)10:08
gazzieanother question.. anyone know much about aoss ?10:08
HappyFooli think it Just Worked10:08
gazzieok how can i change that now happyfool? :p10:08
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{Seb}hey all10:08
{Seb}after a week of suse10:08
HappyFoolgazzie: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure proftpd ?10:08
factorxhow can i adjust the look (ie fonts, font-size, window color) of kde apps, if i dont actually use kde?10:08
{Seb}9.3, i'm back with ubuntu10:08
Seveaztritium, in case you're curious: we figured out what the sudo problem was10:08
{Seb}however, how can i get mono 1.1.7 installed?10:08
{Seb}only 1.1.6 is in backports10:08
HappyFoolSeveaz: i'm curious. what was it?10:09
danko123456sweet, seb, so how is suse doin'?10:09
gazzieok happyfool that worked10:09
{Seb}danko12456: suse is good but no where near as polished as ubuntu ;-)10:09
gazziehow do i setup accounts/homedirs etc10:09
gazzie:)10:09
{Seb}gnome is suse is loads better but gnome in ubuntu is in a new world!10:09
SeveazHappyFool, he reinstalled ubuntu while keeping the data, installing sudo went wrong. So the old sudoers file was kept. But he chose a new username, which of course wasn;t in the sudoers file10:10
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c03Got any FAQ on how to use wireless networking?10:10
HappyFoolgazzie: i'm not sure what the options are; easiest is just to add normal users to your system via adduser10:10
SeveazHappyFool, so we don't have to blame the installer :)10:10
HappyFoolSeveaz: ah. so his clean install of hoary wasn't quite ;)10:10
Seveaznope10:10
{Seb}also, when i upgrade to breezy and choose tomboy10:11
TwoBitSpriteis there a FAQ on how to get the Flash plugin to push sound through ESD?10:11
Seveazbut he's doing a clean one now10:11
{Seb}dbus is installed and evolution is removed10:11
{Seb}any ideas?10:11
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Seveaz{Seb}, DO NOT use breezy10:11
danko123456yeah, seb, like that one guy said, "it's got the apps, stupid..."10:11
Seveazit;s extremely unstable10:11
{Seb}yeh, but i would like mono 1.1.710:11
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{Seb}will it be in backports soon?10:11
Seveaz{Seb}, so install it from the mono website10:11
geogeohey10:11
HappyFoolisn't it possible to install it from source?10:11
{Seb}how?10:11
c03Wireless ?10:11
geogeoon warty, there was network profiles10:12
geogeoon hoary, not anymore ?10:12
Seveaz{Seb}, the mono website has instructions for ubuntu10:12
danko123456dhashen, downloaded yet?10:12
Seveazbut PLEASE do not use breezy (and backports are also not advisory)10:12
khagenHey, what's this night's hassle?10:12
reagleBRKLNhi, i 'm trying to record sound on my hoary install of a dimension 2400. playing works find, and i've read the howto, but got nothing so far. i'd be happy to record the sound from the ak5370 microphone or even in intel onboard10:13
danko123456yeah, 3pm...10:13
c03Does anyone know how to use wireless networking on a laptop ?10:13
factorxhow can i adjust the look (ie fonts, font-size, window color) of kde apps, if i dont actually use kde?10:13
geogeoahha c0310:13
Seveazc03, /me does10:13
geogeoi'm trying to do that10:13
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geogeoand Seveaz does10:13
geogeohe's the man10:13
khagenHmmm, I don't have any experience in any of these.. :-(10:13
c03okay :)10:13
c03Can you help us then ?10:14
danko123456bah10:14
Seveazi'll try, what's the problem?10:14
danko123456Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask!10:14
geogeobut my wireless doesn't work at all..he's maybe not so experimented :)10:14
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danko123456enced?10:14
{Seb}SeveazL i can't see ubuntu anywhere10:14
danko123456reagleBRKLN: hm...10:14
khagengeogeo: Are the driver-modules loaded?10:14
geogeoyeah yeah of course10:14
geogeoi've got the radio signal10:15
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geogeobut i can't connect10:15
Seveas{Seb}, then you're not looking good enough ;) (sorry, i only know it's there, not where it is)10:15
danko123456reagleBRKLN: so you just want your computer to recognize your external microphone, and record sound somewhere...10:15
reagleBRKLNdanko123456: i need a good program that can figure it out, a really good (up to date) howto, or a miracle :)10:15
dhashennot yet got stuck on something else - did it work for you?10:15
reagleBRKLNyes10:15
c03Seveas: If I knew that, I would have corrected it => I don't know, maybe it can't my wireless card?10:15
Seveasgeogeo, read the manpage for wpa_supplicant and try experimenting with it10:15
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danko123456I should have a microphone here somewhere, if noone else knows anything...crimsun would likely know...10:15
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Seveasgeogeo, in a root terminal you just type ifconfig ath0 up10:16
geogeodon't worry Seveas10:16
geogeoit will work =] 10:16
Seveasgeogeo, and then experiment with starting wpa_supplicant10:16
{Seb}Seveas: there is mono 1.1.6 for debian10:16
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{Seb}Seveas: but not ubuntu and this is in backports anyway10:16
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Seveasc03, how far do you get? can you scan for networks, can you connect? can you do nothing with it10:17
Seveas?10:17
rop10Hello, got a quick question if anyone has a moment?10:17
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Seveasrop10, just ask10:17
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danko123456Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask! |...10:17
JairunCalothwhat is a good c++ IDE?10:17
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rop10Workin on ubuntu for a school class, my task is to get KDE installed and running, without switching to Kubuntu, I'm using Warty, curious if theres an easy way to do it. I tried sudo apt-get install KDE and i get errors10:17
danko123456VS.net:-p10:17
khagenvim.., or else Anjuta.10:18
Seveasrop10, there's no easy way for warty10:18
ompaulJairunCaloth, xemacs nedit and lots more10:18
Seveasrop10, on hoary you can simpy say apt-get install kde10:18
MuiskeSo, I installed ubuntu.... but it seems I can't get any higher resolution setting than 1024x768@60... how do I change this?10:18
danko123456rop10: hmm...that should be it... or add desktop?10:18
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{Seb}Seveas: any ideas?10:18
rop10how long would upgrading to Hoary take?10:18
SeveasMuiske, read the manpage about xorg.conf and edit that file10:18
danko123456seb, um...through a .deb file?10:19
{Seb}Seveas: who runs the backports?10:19
khagenrop10: It took me about 3/4 to 1 hour.10:19
Seveas{Seb}, not at all, but google for "ubuntu site=www.mono.org" (or whatever the mono site is)10:19
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khagen3/4 as in 45 mins.10:19
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rop10guidetohoary on the ubuntu webpage doesn't really have any info =X10:19
khagenrop10: Depending on downstream bandwith quite a bit.10:19
Seveasrop10, you want to upgrade?10:20
danko123456dhashen: works fine.....!10:20
{Seb}who runs the backports?10:20
reagleBRKLNdoes ubuntu/kubuntu use oss or alsa? i see the oss mods, but kmixer reports its using alsa10:20
c03Seveas: I don't think I can even activate the wireless thingie... That means no scan :(10:20
rop10Yeah i hate gnome i want KDE, professor says its okay to if i go to Woary10:20
rop10err10:20
Seveasc03, aha10:20
khagen2.6 kernel = alsa10:20
reagleBRKLNok10:20
{Seb}i would like to contact who runs the backports ;-)10:20
Seveasc03, open a root terminal and type ifconfig -a10:20
khagen{Seb} that's the problem?10:20
Seveasdoes it report your network card (wlan0/wifi0/ath0)10:21
rop10hoary* sorry10:21
danko123456seb, there are motus, maybe??10:21
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Seveasrop10: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:21
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danko123456or the forums...posdt it if you cant find it.10:21
rop10And than just let it run?10:21
Seveasyep10:21
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Seveasit'll take a while (downloads a lot)10:21
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danko123456worry hoary sorry10:21
rop10Thank you very much ^_^10:21
Seveasyw :)10:22
holycowhey, you guys should check out another browser called kazehakase ... basically somewhere between mozilla and firefox, but for gtk10:22
holycowkinda neato10:22
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khagenholycow: url?10:22
holycowone nice thing i like is it uses gtk file chooser and print dialog (sorta)10:22
holycowkhagen, sudo apt-get instal kazehakase :)10:22
Seveasholycow, are you sure it's gtk and not qt, the 'k' it starts with makes me suspicious...10:22
rop10rop10@ubuntu:~ $ sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:22
rop10Reading Package Lists... Done10:22
rop10Reading Package Lists... Done10:22
rop10Building Dependency Tree... Done10:22
rop10Calculating Upgrade... Done10:22
rop100 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:23
danko123456DHASHEN: you got that downloaded?10:23
khagenholycow: Okay, that's worth a try indeed.10:23
holycowwell not saying to swtich or anything ... .10:23
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holycowhttp://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/10:23
rop10any ideas sir?10:23
rop10^10:23
Seveasrop10, can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list on ubuntu.pastebin.com please10:23
reagleBRKLNhey cool, arecord makes squiglies when i talk10:23
danko123456yeah, its not too hard///10:23
rop10yes sir just a second10:23
darkauditanyone using the DirectX 9 patch for WINE?10:24
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{Seb}i've put a post on the ubuntuforums10:25
geogeohey dudes, do you know why, when i want to manage printers with localhost:63110:25
{Seb}about 1.1.710:25
vigilantycan anybody tell me why i can't play mp3's even after installing ogg vorbis, or XMMS?10:25
geogeohe asks me login&pass, and it doesn't work ?10:25
danko123456vigilanty: did you install any libs?10:25
krovigilanty: esd10:25
geogeo(with my first user'login and pass)10:25
khagengeogeo: try the root pwd10:25
vigilantylib ogg?10:25
khagenwith the root user..10:25
vigilantyesd?10:25
geogeoI tried it10:25
geogeo:<10:25
Fator_Deevigilanty: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad ?10:25
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vigilantyyes i did.10:25
rop10Seveas, sorry for the newb question, i haven't used Ubuntu untill today... whats the command for opening /etc/apt/sources.list again?10:26
danko123456vigilanty: like... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:26
krovigilanty: go to preferences, configure the output plugin to use esd10:26
darkauditand mikmod if you have an nvidia card (for XMMS)10:26
vigilantywait, no i didn't10:26
khagengeogeo: cups has a separate pam config, and does not use sudo.10:26
Seveasrop10, from a terminal type: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:26
geogeooh..!10:26
goldfishrop10: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:26
vigilantyi have been reading the wiki...10:26
rop10thats it thanks10:26
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makkiahello10:26
geogeoI have to add a new user to the group cups manage so ?10:26
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makkiaslapd in hoary is bugged ?10:27
geogeocupsys10:27
rop10gimme a second sirs10:27
vigilantynow, mp3s should play in totem movie player right?10:27
khagengeogeo: activate the root account. $sudo passwd root10:27
danko123456vigilanty: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*10:27
geogeoyeah ?10:27
khagengeogeo: then try again with root and rootpass.10:27
geogeoahha doesn't work10:27
geogeoi'm fucked !10:27
rop10posted now10:27
vigilantyit's workin10:27
danko123456URL?10:27
danko123456everyone thinks we magically have the URL...10:28
khagengeogeo: What doesn't work?10:28
vigilantyi did it thru synaptic, instead of apt-get.10:28
danko123456ok, great:)10:28
geogeohe reject root account10:28
rop10let me know if you have trouble getting to it10:28
danko123456excellent...10:28
vigilantynow, what app for movies?10:28
khagensudo passwd10:28
danko123456same link...10:28
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Seveasrop10, where did you paste it?10:28
vigilantywith as many codec compatabilities as possible?10:28
mirakI have reinstalled hoary, but now when I log in gnome, it immediately crashes once the desktop appears10:28
geogeoI just want to use a windows printer (shared with samba) with my laptop under linux10:28
rop10http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/28337110:28
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geogeovigilanty, check the wiki pages about audio and video, I'll give you the link10:29
Seveasah, network isn't enabled yet10:29
mirakI created a new user, so gnome settings are fresh10:29
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vigilantywell, I'll try myself...10:29
khagentry: System->Administration->Printing ..10:29
rop10network isn't enabled yet i can get on the web? >_<10:29
Seveasrop10, open the file again with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:29
mirakwhat should I do ?10:29
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vigilantythanks, but If i have further probs, I'll come back.10:29
Seveasrop10, i meant just for apt ;)10:29
rop10ah K, its open already10:30
{Seb}btw, i read somewhere that you could replace the gnome logo with a ubuntu one10:30
vigilantyoh btw,10:30
{Seb}i think it was on the forums but i can't find the post10:30
khagengeogeo: with your own pass.10:30
{Seb}i know the standard orange one is one the system10:30
danko123456vigilanty: what do you mean?10:30
{Seb}does anyone know where there is a small version of the blue ubuntu logo10:30
danko123456vigilanty: do you have MPlayer?10:30
vigilantywhat's the terminal command for installing apps that are downloaded from websites directly?10:30
vigilantymp3 player is working through totem now.10:30
Seveasrop10, on line 5, 6, 15, 16, 18 and 19 (the lines that start with deb) you remove the # at the beginning10:30
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khagenvigilante: is it a .deb?10:31
rop10Seveas, K uncommenting now10:31
Fator_Deevigilanty: dpkg -i debfilename10:31
vigilantywell, some will be i think.10:31
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vigilantywhat if it's a rpg?10:31
aleksanderhow can i install apache server on ubuntu?10:31
danko123456vigilanty: um, rather wget, I think.10:31
geogeowith my own pass khagen  ?10:31
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{Seb}aleksander: sudo apt-get install apache210:31
franklin50aleksander: sudo apt-get install apache210:31
rop10checking now thanks10:31
danko123456rpwhat?10:31
geogeobut, with System admin....10:32
vigilantyso, lets say i install opera,10:32
aleksanderok, but how open i the command screen...10:32
geogeoI can't add my windows printer with samba10:32
geogeoit doesn't work10:32
vigilantycd to the dir,10:32
Seveasrop10, then save it and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:32
khagengeogeo: from the menu: System->Administration->Printing width your wn pass.10:32
vigilantyand dpkg -i debfilename10:32
vigilanty?10:32
danko123456aleksander: sudo apt-get install apache10:32
khagengeogeo: wn = own10:32
geogeoyeah, the printer works in local10:32
aleksanderdankol123456: where?10:32
geogeobut not through smb10:32
danko123456well, is it a .deb?10:32
danko123456or from source? vigilanty10:32
geogeoso i'm not good at all :<10:32
rop10Seveas works great thank you for the help sir ^_^10:32
dhashenedit apt sources and now downloading via backports but its sloooooooooooooooowwwww!10:33
danko123456aleksander: apps>system tools10:33
vigilantywell, I'll at some point need to know all of the installation methods thru the terminal.10:33
Seveasrop10, you're welcome :)10:33
aleksanderok10:33
danko123456dhashen: installed:-p10:33
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danko123456dhashen: where are the extensions, anyhow, teh ones  you ruin for .3?10:33
aleksanderany one here who have msn on linux? (via ssh...)10:33
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danko123456aleksander: OK!10:33
danko123456I use gaim for msn messenger10:34
aleksanderdankol123456: norsk?10:34
aleksanderspeak norwegian10:34
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danko123456nope, Im Hrvatska!!!10:34
khagenaleksander: never heard of a command-line msn client.. sorry10:34
danko123456seveas, nite.10:34
aleksander:P10:34
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dhashenin firefox u goto tools menu, extentions and click for more10:34
WebWizkhagen: centericq does msn10:34
seluthawhat is the default sound system installed on ubuntu?10:35
dcravenaleksander: I think centericq does msn.. Have a look.10:35
danko123456and which ones?10:35
khagenselutha: alsa + esd10:35
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WebWizaleksander: yes it does,  msn, aim, irc, jab, yahoo, gg10:35
danko123456it doesnt let you to their website:p10:35
seluthathanks khagen bud having a problem he gets static when 2 sounds play10:35
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aleksanderwebwiz: do you can explain how?10:36
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factorxwhy isnt the kernel 2.6. source in my synaptic packages tree?10:36
aleksanderi'm new on linux...10:36
WebWizsure i'll msg you10:36
aleksanderdankol....: where shall i write the apache tings...?10:36
khagenselutha: That'll be alsa I quess.10:36
seluthakhagen, alsa causing static you think?10:36
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khagenselutha: I think so, try tinkering around a bit with alsamixer (terminal program)10:37
mirakhi10:37
mirakI have just installed ubuntu10:37
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danko123456aleksander: did you get a terminal open?10:38
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mirakbut when I log to gnome, once I am on the desktop, it crashes immedialty. It freezes in fact10:38
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danko123456apps>system tools>terminal, type in "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apache" and press ebter.10:38
user_!list10:38
ThirstehI haven't tried out Ubuntu yet, and have been using Mandrake/Gentoo for a long time. What makes Ubuntu so great that I should try it out?10:39
seluthakhagen, ok i will tell him thanks. one more question anyone know if gnome is going to drop esd like kde is doing to arts?10:39
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Funraisermirak, laptop memory and cpu?10:39
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khagenselutha: Don't know.10:39
danko123456vigilanty: did you install mplayer, watching movies yet?10:39
seluthakhagen, ok thanks again10:40
sjohnsonn00b question:  I get the superblock error when i try mounting with this in fstab:10:40
sjohnson/dev/sdb2 /home/sjohnson/sg reiserfs defaults,user,errors=remount-ro 0 110:40
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factorxwhy does the kernel-2.6.x source package not appear in my synaptic packages list?10:40
sjohnsonbut i can mount as root using "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /home/sjohnson/sg"10:40
user_quit10:40
goldfishuser_: /quit10:40
mirakFunraiser: it's not a laptop. XP1800+ 1G ddr . I use ubuntu for six months now10:41
mirakI reinstalled10:41
aleksanderhow do i log in as root?10:41
ThirstehGuess I shouldn't :D10:41
sjohnsonaleksander: sudo passwd root10:41
aleksanderpassword, username?10:41
mirakbecause I was on breezy, so I went back to hoary ^^10:41
sjohnsonset your password10:41
aleksanderok10:41
sjohnsonthen type "su"10:41
sjohnsonafter you have set your password10:41
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sjohnsonand CTRL-D when you're done with the root terminal10:41
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vigilantydanko123456, no i haven't10:42
vigilantyshould that play all codecs though?10:42
FunraiserThirsteh, it froze on breezy?10:42
aleksanderhow can i find my local ip adress?10:42
rop10seveas, so after thats complete how do i go about install hoary?10:42
aleksander"ip addr" ?10:42
khagenThirsteh: It's debian based... ;-)10:42
Funraisermirak, it froze on breezy?10:42
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organonifconfig10:42
{Seb}night all10:42
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mirakFunraiser: no, it doesn't10:43
aleksanderorganon: ipconfig on linux?10:43
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organondunno, ive always udes ifconfig :O10:43
rop10Seveas, nevermind, sudo apt-get install kde works great10:43
aleksanderis php included in apache2 ???10:43
geogeofucking printer grrrrrrrrrrrr10:43
organonused*10:43
khagengeogeo: No luck still?10:43
geogeoI'm trying with System admin... printers10:44
geogeobut it doesn't work10:44
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organonaleksander, sudo ifconfig and check "eth0"10:44
aleksanderphp on apache2 ?10:44
geogeoI created a special user on windows10:44
geogeowithout password10:44
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organonsudo apt-get install php410:44
aleksander:P10:44
geogeoand the host is good, the name of the printer is good10:44
aleksanderwhat does "sudo" ?10:44
geogeoit works in local..10:44
organonas su10:45
aleksanderand without "sudo" ?10:45
organongives u super user privileges10:45
kutucapehelo all10:45
organonaka root :)10:45
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sjohnsonaleksander:  ifconfig10:45
sjohnsonwith an F10:45
sjohnsonnot p10:45
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organonwanhaa! :)10:45
organonnever mind10:45
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kutucapeipconfig for windoze user :p10:46
blakehellow10:46
vigilantyI obviously don't have the correct things installed to play videos...  mplayer opens, then closes, and totem plays audio only.10:46
danko123456wraps the command with su privileges...10:46
aleksanderbrb10:46
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blakewhat is a good p2p program10:46
goldfishlimewire10:47
blakehas alot of users on it10:47
vigilantybittorent is good too.10:47
mirakhelp me10:47
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mirakplz10:47
mirak:)10:47
mirakgnome crash immediately after I log in10:47
blakelimewire is for lunnnix10:47
blakelinux10:47
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vigilantyvideo codec help, please?10:47
KlaasHello everyone, Some days ago, i found some ubuntu cd's in my mailbox, thanks for giving them without paying to me. it's realy great (ubuntu), at the moment, i'm working on the live cd , its a hoary 5.04, i tried to install ubuntu on my hard drive but he can't dedect it ( it's a sata hard disk ), my setup is a P3 450mhz with 128 + 32 mb ram ( soon 512 ), creative l!ve sound blaster 5.1 / gf 4 mx 440  and a 3com network card.10:47
KlaasThe problem is, when i boot from the install cd10:47
kutucapemirak, what's the error then10:48
danko123456mplayer, does it open, and when you play ckloses?10:48
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vigilantyno10:48
Klaaseverything goes automatic, that's okej, but when i reach the step of dedecting the hard drive10:48
danko123456then what?10:48
rop10Is there a safe way to stop a apt-get? I remember on Gentoo it would hurt it if you stopped mid emerge10:48
vigilantywell yes it does actually.10:48
Klaasit says he can't find one, becouse i have a sata hdd pluggen onto a sata PCI card10:48
organonctrl+c should do the trick ;)10:48
vigilantyit says it's starting mplayer, then disappers.10:48
Funraiservigilanty, try vlc10:48
Klaashow can I fix this, thanks10:48
organon"safe" :)10:48
rop10Organon, thank you sir10:49
danko123456vigilanty: try changing the output plugin, to esd, I did that, maybe not the same thing, though.10:49
ola_got a problem when changing to warty. x fails to start. some unmet dependencies. try to fix with apt-get -f install, but recieve errors10:49
mirakkutucape: I don't know, it freezes10:49
DarksunHmm, I think the battery monitor might be broke, it's been showing 97% for hours10:49
vigilantyesd?10:49
ola_can anyone help?10:49
organonnp br010:49
DarksunOr maybe my battery is broke and can't fully charge >_<10:49
Klaasno, i'm new to this10:49
danko123456ola_: removed backports before upgrading?10:49
rop10Anyone have any reason to use Ubuntu instead of Gentoo? I'm debating making the switch10:49
danko123456vigilanty: have you tried changing the output plugin to esd?10:49
ola_danko123456: backports? don't know what that is.10:49
kutucapemirak, have you choose failsafe session?10:49
vigilantyhow, what, where?10:50
Marble2rop10: instsalling anything takes a million hours to compile10:50
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ola_danko123456: how?10:50
vigilantyi don't know what esd is.10:50
mirakkutucape: hem nope10:50
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Klaasrop10, try the live cd from ubuntu, you'll see it's a cool thing, ubuntu10:50
ghostfreemani need help urgently10:50
Marble2and most apps are in the repositories10:50
rop10I'm aware, problem is i get out of class in 10 minutes ^_^10:50
mirakkutucape: I will try that, but I don't see how resolve the problem10:50
ghostfreemanwhere can I find the xorg configuration file10:50
Funraiserghostfreeman, what's the prob?10:50
rop10Klaas, thank you sir i'll give it a shot10:50
danko123456ola, look in your sources.list file, under /etc/apt.10:50
kutucaperop10, after using it a month i love it because we don't need compiling to use it :p10:50
Marble2vigilanty: what's your problem10:50
ghostfreemani made a setting10:50
blakehow do you install rpm's?10:50
Klaas" sir " :D i'm 14y old ;)10:50
ghostfreemanand now I can't load X10:50
vigilantydamn, my lunch break is almost over, but I can't play video...10:51
rop10kutucape compiling fucking sucks10:51
organon /etc/X11/10:51
vigilantyno avi's, no mpg...10:51
organonat least with free86 :o10:51
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vigilantytotem only plays the audio of them.10:51
danko123456Klaas: :)10:51
blakei thought tat was like the equivelnt to an auto installer10:51
vigilantyand does a shitty job of that.10:51
Fator_Deevigilanty: try xine or vlc10:51
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vigilantyxine sounds good.10:51
Funraiserghostfreeman, can't help10:51
Marble2vigilanty: what are you using as video output?10:51
vigilantyi gotta go for now though, otherwise i might get fired.10:51
ghostfreemanshit10:51
vigilantyi don't know.10:52
Fator_Deeand do you have w32codecs installed?10:52
ghostfreemanwell, thanks anyways.10:52
danko123456vigilanty: did you look in your preferences, to change the default output plugin to esound instead of oss?10:52
organonghostfreeman, /etc/X11/10:52
Deftwhoa, this channels getting big these days...10:52
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vigilantythis will have to wait.10:52
vigilantysorry, but i can't lose my job.10:52
organon:)10:52
Marble2it's fine10:52
Marble2we10:52
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Marble2we'll still be here later10:52
vigilantyi'll be back later tonight, after trying what u guys said.10:52
kutucapetrying installing xfce, anyone here have tried xfce on hoary?10:52
organon"which one comes first: ur job or linux?!"10:52
Funraiseryeah i think this channel should be divided in ubuntu-sound, ubuntu-graphics , ubuntu-etc10:52
Fator_Deekutucape: I use it10:52
kutucapei just want to know how good it is10:53
darkauditkutucape: and I10:53
Fator_Deeit's good, I got nothing to complaint10:53
Marble2Funraiser: nah, it's nice to have a catch-all channel, diving it would just confused newbies who just wanted to fix a small problem10:53
organonbtw, where are u from guys (well, girls too :))?10:53
KlaasCan anyone help me installing ubuntu on a pc with a sata controller? ( the only hdd is on that controller ) and the installer does not dedect it10:53
danko123456all the girls:)10:53
kutucapeFator_Dee, well it seems that I will have the same too :D10:53
FunraiserFrance10:53
organonhehe10:53
goldfishorganon: Everywhere !10:53
goldfishIreland here.10:54
KlaasBelgium over here10:54
DeftEngland, Southampton at the moment10:54
blakedoes anyone know how to enamle the installing of rpms???10:54
kutucapeIndonesia over here :D10:54
organonfinland10:54
darkauditWest (by God) Virginia here :)10:54
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geogeoFrance10:54
geogeo\o/10:54
kutucapei'm from asia ^_^10:54
Klaasbelgium, ieper, where World War One stopped :D10:54
Funraiserblake, there is an app called alien, but it doesn't work well10:54
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goldfishblake: 'alien blah.rpm'10:54
goldfishblake: will make a .deb10:54
Klaasgeogeo, bonjour ;) commect cava?10:54
aleksanderback10:54
kutucapeit's good that ubuntu ship many languages on gnome10:54
geogeola peche.10:55
Klaas:d10:55
Marble2blake, we use deb files10:55
Marble2you can use alien though10:55
organonbon voyage10:55
blakedeb10:55
organon:)10:55
geogeoahah10:55
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Marble2I'm from Minnesota10:55
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Klaasbrb guys10:55
kutucapewait, i want to switch with xfce ^_^10:55
Klaasgotta make a toilet stop x)10:55
darkauditkutucape: switch what?10:55
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Deftthat was a little more information than we needed to know there Klaas...10:56
kutucapei'm currently use gnome..10:56
organonanother WM10:56
kutucapeso i want to try using xfce...10:56
Funraiserlol10:56
aleksanderhow to use msn via ssh?10:56
kutucapebrb guys10:56
organonisnt it xfce4?10:56
aleksanderwebzeb here?10:56
Funraiserwhat ssh again?10:56
Funraiserwhat's*10:56
ben__does ubuntu come with a webserver?10:56
darkauditorganon: yep10:56
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ben__Secure SHell10:57
danko123456rlogin10:57
geogeomsn via ssh ?10:57
organonwhat if you connect via ssh and then start screen and run e.g. centericq in screen10:57
karljpwhat do I need to do in order to umount my swap partition?10:57
organonshould do the trick10:57
sjohnsonwhy the fuck can i mount something using the mount command it won't work in fstab!!!!!!!!10:57
karljpI want to remake it elsewhere10:57
sjohnson:(10:57
aleksandermsn in ssh...10:57
danko123456sjohnson: frustrated, eh?10:57
geogeoah =] 10:57
Defthas anyone tried using xchat-gnome; the gnome-ish xchat interface thing?10:57
ben__how can i get a webserver on my ubbuntu using apt-get ?10:57
Deftsjohnson, what's the issue?10:57
organonin irssi we trust10:57
Deftben__, apache2 is in the archives10:58
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Marble2sjohnson: run it as sudo10:58
aleksanderprivate geogeo10:58
aleksanderhow to start private chat?10:58
geogeoI started it10:58
danko123456sjohnson: are you sure the hard drive is where you think it is, sudo fdisk -l ?10:58
geogeoU've got irssi ?10:58
geogeoCTRL + 1...2..3..4...10:58
goldfishalt10:59
Funraiseraleksander, right click the name on x-chat10:59
sjohnsonhey dudes, thanks for helping10:59
sjohnsoni'll tell you the problem here10:59
sjohnson/dev/sdb2       /mnt    reiserfs        rw,user,uid=gid=1000,owner=sjohnsonerrors=remount-ro 0       110:59
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sjohnsongets the badsuperblock error, wrong fs type, etc error10:59
kutucapehei all10:59
sjohnsonbut if i do "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt" works fine11:00
blakehow do i run alien11:00
Marble2your swap is reiserfs?11:00
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sjohnsonand i found out later it used "reiserfs"11:00
Deftsjohnson, you have a comma missing it that's the real line11:00
darkauditsjohnson: are you getting errors about a SATA drive @ boot?11:00
Marble2blake: alien blah.rpm11:00
sjohnsondarkaudit: no11:00
kutucapei adminitted that xfce is so d*mn beatifull :D11:00
blakein terminal11:00
blake?11:00
organonwhat about fluxbox? :o11:00
sjohnsonk let me try this11:00
Marble2blake: yea11:00
darkauditsjohnson: ok...11:00
sjohnsonthanks Deft11:00
aleksanderany one who know why i not can log on root on this screen?11:00
Funraiserblake, just type alien in a terminal plus the name of the rpm file, but most likely it's not gonna work anyway11:00
blakeblah = filename11:01
kutucapeorganon, fluxbux is too simple11:01
darkauditorganon: I was using fluxbox for a long time... then I tried XFCE :)11:01
sjohnson/dev/sdb2       /mnt    reiserfs        defaults,user=sjohnson,errors=remount-ro 0       111:01
sjohnsonit's now this... but it now complains that i have to be root11:01
organonwell' i've tried 'em both too11:01
Deftion2 is the pretty special if it's set up right11:01
sjohnsonfuuuuck11:01
organonhavent chosen my side yet ;)11:01
sjohnsonsorry for the swear words if it's offending someone11:01
Funraisersjohnson, sudo then11:01
sjohnsonmy goal is to make it so i don't have to be root to mount this, i want to be ME11:02
danko123456haha, frustration.11:02
Deftsjohnson, you'll need a user or users option then11:02
darkauditorganon: with now the biggest holy war I'm involved in is to yEnc or not to yEnc...11:02
sjohnsonit will work if i take out the "=sjohnson" but in this line...11:02
Klaasbye @ all11:02
darkauditmost linux users don't have that issue :)11:02
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sjohnson/dev/hda on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=sjohnson)11:02
FunraiseryEnc!11:02
sjohnsonmy CDROM drive works FINE with user=sjohnson11:02
organonyEnc? sry, doesn't ring a bell11:02
sjohnsonthis is driving me insane!!!!!!!!!111:02
Marble2sjohnson: it has to be set up correctly in fstab for you to be able to mount it11:03
FunraiseryEnc in peace, nothing to worry about11:03
sjohnsonMarble2: i know, that's what im trying to figure out11:03
Marble2your swap partition?11:03
Marble2pm me11:03
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darkauditorganon: encoding format for USENET binaries... Outlook Express doesn't support it, and ppl have a fit when you use it11:03
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organonright on, googeling as we speak11:04
danko123456Klaas: cya11:04
darkauditand my apologies for invoking OE :)11:04
Deftsjohnson, a typical options line would be just defaults,user, that normally does the trick unless you have somethin odd going on11:04
Funraiseroutlook is a news graber?11:04
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darkauditFunraiser: OE does mail and usenet... neither very well, but too many ppl don't bother to use anything proper11:05
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Funraiserdarkaudit, well many people use grabit now for NGs11:05
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blakefunraiser11:06
Funraiserdarkaudit, i mean for downloading "files"11:06
Funraiseryes?11:06
aleksanderhow to logon root?11:06
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blakefunraiser: i typed it and now it's a blank line below11:06
darkauditFunraiser: I haven't tried grabit... I use Pan11:06
IIIEarsHi! - What is the "Session" program called?11:07
blakefunraiser: id said it worked11:07
IIIEarswhat do the numbers mean for a program i add to start up/11:07
Funraiserdarkaudit, well there is no grabit for linux, and Pan uses a lot of memory, i've heard nget works11:08
Funraiserwell11:08
Funraiserblake, the alien thing?11:08
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blakefunraiser: id said it worked11:08
blakeyeas11:08
Funraiserblake, try to launch it to see11:08
blakehow11:08
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blake:P?11:08
Funraiserwhat did u convert?11:08
darkauditFunraiser: pan is back in development... they're working on lightening the memory load...11:08
blakea file on my desktop11:08
Andrilhello all again -11:08
Funraiserdarkaudit, it's about time11:09
blakefunraiser: this is what it said11:09
Funraiserk11:09
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blakeroot@LittleWhiteBox:/home/blake # alien /home/blake/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm limewire-free_4.8.1-1_i386.deb generated11:09
blakeroot@LittleWhiteBox:/home/blake #11:09
karim_I am back11:09
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karim_gnome freezes11:09
Andriladvice to all - stay away from "autopackage" till they are complete http://autopackage.org/11:10
karim_but it's kernel crash11:10
IIIEarsWhat does the number 50  mean alongside a start up program in "Sessions"?11:10
karim_with 2.6.1111:10
AndrilGood concept/Bad config11:10
karim_the back trace isn't very talkative11:10
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IIIEarsWhat other numbers can be used?11:11
Funraiserblake, do u know there is amule for linux?11:11
=== darkaudit would rather compile my own than run alien again...
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darkauditFunraiser: yes there is... in universe IIRC11:11
ola_h3ello people! I am unable to correct dependencies. upgraded recently to hoary and X won't start. ...perl-base...version...will be installed.. I try install -f, and it seems to work, (...16MEGS will be used? Y) and then error while processing perl-base11:12
organonspeaking of compiling.. have you tried gentoo?11:12
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Funraiserblake, now u can try to install it11:12
IIIEarsis this where a new Ubuntu user can ask questions?11:12
dabaSlon_schlIIIEars: :)11:12
darkauditorganon: very briefly... never got it installed...11:12
blakedo i need to extract it first11:12
DeftIIIEars, yes!11:12
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IIIEarsHello dabaSlon :)11:13
Funraiserdpkg -i nameofyourfilecreated.deb11:13
organondarkaudit, u should try again :)11:13
dabaSlon_schlyo, im away11:13
ola_is it possible to downgrade to warty?11:13
Funraiserblake, no, type that where the file is11:13
Deftola_, not really11:13
organoni got it working on the second time :)11:13
darkauditthere's always apt-build ;)11:13
blakefun: i clicked the .deb file and it just opened a folder11:13
ola_Deft: oh...11:13
IIIEarsI added a program to "Sessions" startup the number 50 was added automatically. - What does that number mean/11:13
chillywillyhello ubunuters11:14
chillywillyubuntuers too11:14
organon;)11:14
chillywillydid you know that god wrote in lisp code?11:14
chillywilly;P11:14
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Funraiserdpkg -i a file requires sudo?11:14
DeftI would think that god probably schemes11:14
factorxhow can i compile a kernel with make-kpkg via menuconfig?11:14
chillywillysure11:14
darkauditFunraiser: yes11:14
chillywillyscheme is just a lisp dialect11:14
Funraiserblake, open a terminal11:14
Deftyes, but who would believe in a lisping god?11:15
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Deftscheming on the other hand11:15
chillywillymuwahhahahhaa11:15
Deftthat or brainfuck of course11:15
chillywillyI think there's a song called "god wrote in lisp code"11:15
karim_how to change channel with irssi-text ?11:15
karim_to switch channel11:15
chillywillyprograms hacking programs...11:15
darkauditfactorx: http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-kernel-recompile.php11:16
chillywillywild stuff I tell ya11:16
Funraiserblake?11:16
organonctrl+1,2,3,etc...11:16
karim_ok11:16
goldfishALT11:16
organonmy bad, ALT!11:16
darkauditkarim_: alt+(chan #)11:16
karim_organon: it's alt11:16
Tomcat_Where can I set module parameters for hotplug loaded modules?11:16
organongettin' tired :p11:16
Funraiserblake, knock knock11:16
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raydogg``I have a script that acts on some files inside a directory... when i try to run the script inside the directory it works fine, but if i try to run the script from outside the directory it says it can't find the files... how can i fix this CWD problem ?11:16
karim_so I got a problem, when I log to gnome with hoary, I got a kernel crash11:16
IIIEarsHi goldfish!11:16
factorxthx, darkaudit11:16
karim_I have just installed it11:17
organonor /channel # :)11:17
goldfishhey IIIEars11:17
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goldfishtoo much typing11:17
karim_the kernel is 2.6.11-111:17
organontrue11:17
karim_anyone can help ?11:17
aleksanderhow to edit the apache httpd.conf file?11:17
organonor alt+left/right11:17
Deftaleksander, beyond "sudo gedit httpd.conf"?11:17
eruinis there a way to sniff if a file gets deleted and replace it with another file?11:18
organonaleksander, nano -w /etc/apache/httpd.conf11:18
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Funraisergoldfish, use the tab then11:18
blakei did it11:18
eruinie realtime11:18
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goldfishI'm happy with alt + num.11:18
goldfishThanks.11:18
hybrid_gothhello all11:18
Funraiserblake, and?11:18
Funraiserblake, did u cd to Desktop?11:18
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Defteruin, inotify, dnotify etc are the things in the kernel for that11:18
eruineek11:19
blakeit did something.......if it installed it where would the file be?????11:19
sjohnsonok dudes, with reiserfs, it works to mount with "user" in fstab, but I won't it so only ME is able to mount it... reiserfs doesn't support uid or user=sjohnson11:19
Defteruin, or just script to check every 5 seconds is the opposite end of the scale11:19
eruinhmm11:19
Funraiserblake, u have to type first: cd Desktop11:19
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eruinI'll have to look into bash scripting11:19
eruinthen11:19
blake?11:19
blakeyou mean11:20
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Funraiserblake, then type: sudo dpkg -i thefiletoinstall.deb11:20
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blakethat's what i typed11:20
blakei did it in root11:20
Funraiserblake, in the Desktop folder?11:20
blakeno11:20
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eruinin / :P11:21
Funraiserblake, your file is in which folder?11:21
blakedesktop for now11:21
Funraiserblake, then open the terminal and type: cd Desktop11:22
jamesioanyone here have experience with ubuntu running the smp kernel?11:22
hybrid_gothhelp names11:22
keffohow was it now again.. with wget to get the folder and everything within it?11:23
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blake!!11:23
blakesweet11:23
Funraiserblake, now to see if your file is there type: ls11:23
blakei didn't know how to do that11:23
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blakenow i do11:24
Funraiser:-)11:24
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hybrid_gothlol11:25
organonkeffo, is it wget -r url11:25
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blakeno i didn't know how to do that11:26
Funraiserblake, now type ls11:26
ola_(new-to-linux-guy, people. they exists)11:26
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IIIEarsFunraiser - lol - he could be for real - i asked the same question 2 weeks ago for real.11:26
ola_exist*11:26
blakebut i typed dpkg -i filename11:26
blakeis tha tright11:26
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blakeit got errors11:26
blakei got errors11:27
Funraiserblake, to make sure the file is there first type: ls11:27
IIIEarsYes - 2 weeks makes  me a seasoned newb - right?11:27
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blakewell ......it's on my desktop11:27
blakei see it11:27
sjohnsonhas ANYONE here figured out how to allow only one user to mount reiserfs in fstab?  rfs doesn't support uid,gid, or user=sjohnson11:27
sjohnsonplease help!!!11:27
Funraiserblake, ok then type: sudo dpkg -i thefile.deb11:27
blakeooh i forgot sudo11:27
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bluszczis here any developper ubuntu?11:30
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Funraiserblake, hurry up i've got a panzer to blow11:30
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hybrid_gothhow do i set up this ubuntu so i can ssh to it from school?11:30
tgaI'm having trouble getting a Logitech QuickCam to work with gnomemeeting11:31
IIIEarsbluszcz - most are away at the moment - you gotta take your chances with us newbs - muhahahah!11:31
blakeme too11:31
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blakeis it L OR i??11:31
tgathe c-qcam module seems to use video for linux 1 and gnomemeeting wants v4l-211:31
mirakthe 2.6.11-1 kernel doesn't work here on hoary11:31
bluszczIIIEars: come on :)11:31
blakedpkg l11:31
Funraiserblake, i small i like in install11:31
blakeyeah11:31
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blakebrb11:31
Funraiserdpkg -r to remove11:32
IIIEarsFunraiser - you are cool11:33
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Funraiserwell thanks11:33
blakei did it in a folder i created on the desktop and it's not there?11:33
blakewhy?11:33
blakeit says it worked11:34
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Funraiserblake, ok now click applications/run application and enter the name of the app11:34
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evan_arrrgh... anyone know how to vertically center text on a page in openoffice?11:35
Goliath24hi, i'm running ubuntu on a laptop and it seems to power down the harddisk after 10 seconds... which is pretty anoying, how do I change that?11:35
blakeumm11:36
tgaGoliath24: take a look at hdparm11:36
Funraiserblake, ?11:36
tgaGoliath24: but be careful, you can screw things up if you don't know what you're doing11:36
Goliath24tga: what is the "ubuntu-way" to configure hdparm?11:36
tgaGoliath24: apt-get install hdparm, I don't know11:36
Goliath24okay11:36
goldfishno need to apt-get it11:36
geogeociao11:36
goldfishafaik11:36
geogeo=] 11:36
blakeit's accepting the comand11:36
Funraiserciao geogeo11:36
blakebut not doing anything11:36
blake?11:37
Funraiserblake, ok type the name of the app in a terminal11:37
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Funraiserblake, u'll see what's wrong this way11:37
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blakeYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer11:38
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Funraiserblake, there we are11:38
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blakeby any chance can i get that from aptget?11:38
Funraiserblake, now11:39
Funraiserno11:39
Funraiserone sec11:39
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goldfishget the .bin from sun website11:39
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bluszczso many newbies11:39
Funraiserblake, u are trying to install limewire aren't u?11:39
blakeyes11:39
goldfishlol11:39
hybrid_gothheh11:40
blakeor11:40
goldfishhybrid_goth: did u get your answer?11:40
blakeany high trafic p2p11:40
Funraiserblake, well just follow http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire11:40
hybrid_gothgoldfish: nope11:40
IIIEarslol - hey been here two whole weeks already! (harumph)11:40
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goldfishhybrid_goth: do u have a static ip ?11:40
holycowIIIEars, how do you like linux so far?11:40
goldfishhybrid_goth: first u need to, apt-get install openssh-server11:40
hybrid_gothgoldfish: no but it only changes weekly11:41
IIIEarsBest OS yet11:41
goldfishhybrid_goth: kk11:41
goldfishhybrid_goth: once u install the openssh-server11:41
IIIEarsWindowsis really only good for gaming11:41
goldfishu can ssh to your box11:41
FunraiserIIIEars, well Cedega works very well11:41
hybrid_gothgoldfish: ok ty11:41
FunraiserIIIEars, i've been playing max payne 2 on my ubuntu, it works perfeclty11:42
goldfishanytime i run cedega the resolution is all borked :/11:42
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Goliath24goldfish, tga: I changed the -S setting in hdparm.conf and did a /etc/init.d/hdparm restart... but still it powers down to quickly11:42
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IIIEarsI fought with Wine regedit last nigh - it's tough to use linux for games11:42
hybrid_gothgoldfish: have you tried putty?11:42
FunraiserIIIEars, did u try Cedega?11:42
goldfishhybrid_goth: yeah11:42
IIIEarsNo11:42
hybrid_gothIIIEars: thats because of directX11:42
goldfishhybrid_goth: i use it when im in windows11:43
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hybrid_gothgoldfish: how is it?11:43
IIIEarsSounds like i need it.11:43
goldfishhybrid_goth: fine.11:43
hybrid_gothgoldfish: ok b/c my school runs winblow$11:43
goldfishah right, yeah, its fine11:43
goldfishjust stick in the ip, port number, connect11:44
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goldfishthere u go11:44
IIIEarsCedega is inexpensive - very nice11:44
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goldfishhybrid_goth: are u behind a router?11:44
dataw0lf|w'winblow$' ?11:44
Funraiseri tried like 10 game demos on ubuntu with cedega, 8 worked perfectly...see http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Category:Games11:44
hybrid_gothok ty soo much11:44
holycowIIIEars, glad to hear you like ubuntu :) debian/ubuntu sure make it nice easy and polished11:44
holycowIIIEars, i can't wait until we start getting support for some of the xorg features, where say the menues and windows jiggle and the like11:45
hybrid_gothgoldfish: yes11:45
goldfishhybrid_goth: you might need to forward port 22 on your router11:45
IIIEarsUbuntu - is amazing.11:45
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hybrid_gothdataw0lf|w: winblow$ is windows from a windows hater stand11:45
artaxhola feos11:46
hybrid_gothgoldfish: ok11:46
Naliothdadblasted Tiger keeps eating my yaboot11:46
dataw0lf|whybrid_goth: I know what it is, but I never knew an OS could 'blow'.11:46
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dataw0lf|wApparently, I'm picking up Windows tonight.11:46
goldfishhehe11:46
GhostFreemanhow can I check what version of the ATI drivers I am running?11:46
hybrid_gothwhats windows?11:46
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IIIEarsNeed for Speed II is on the list of working games :)11:46
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dataw0lf|whybrid_goth: What adults say when they speak of an OS that people say is terrible but have no real reason for doing so.11:47
dataw0lf|wIf you know what you're doing, an OS doesn't 'blow'.11:47
dataw0lf|wThat's called 'PEBKAC'.11:47
dataw0lf|wfyi.11:47
seluthaonekill11:47
hybrid_gothdataw0lf|w: blah well windows over works my fan so it blows11:47
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dataw0lf|wpebkac.11:47
Funraiseryeah what's windows?11:47
onekillselutha!!11:47
seluthaonekill, RAWR!11:48
hybrid_gothpebkac my ass11:48
IIIEarsWindows is okay - just too many exploits aimed at it. Install, Connect, Reinstall...11:48
GhostFreemani think its what you play games on11:48
hybrid_gothGhostFreeman: heh11:48
dataw0lf|whybrid_goth: I doubt if pebkac applies to your ass, but whatever you say.11:48
dataw0lf|wroll with it.11:48
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a_peckhey all. can you tell me where is the apache root dir by default? (apache 1.3 ubuntu hoary, installed with synaptic) can't be sure :(11:49
Funraiseri'm not going to buy Longhorn to play games though, xp and cedega will be fine for like the next 5 years11:49
holycowhttp://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots  <-- IIIEars  check that out11:49
sjohnsonwhat file system would you recommend i format my 120 GIG drive for mp3s/ movies, etc11:49
dataw0lf|wsjohnson: ext3.11:49
hybrid_gothdataw0lf|w: you see more pebkac in linux though11:49
goldfisha_peck: /var/www/ ?11:49
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dataw0lf|whybrid_goth: Sure, especially from the ubuntu community.11:49
goldfishhmmmm maybe not11:49
dataw0lf|wI don't use Linux because of 'Winblow$'11:49
a_peckgoldfish, 'tis. Thx!11:49
transgressi don't get it... why all the people that are on linux channels using hydrairc11:50
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dataw0lf|wI use Linux because it's free, it's open source, and I do the majority of my contracts for Linux or Unix platforms.11:50
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hybrid_gothdataw0lf|w: there is b/c linux has to be messed up by the user windows...?11:50
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dataw0lf|whybrid_goth: Are you saying Windows is idiot proof?11:50
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dataw0lf|w*chuckle*11:50
holycowdataw0lf, really? sweet!  do you mind me asking what type of work?11:50
GhostFreemaninternet fight11:50
dataw0lf|wOk, brotha.11:50
holycowdataw0lf, no, windows is an idiot magnet tho11:50
holycow:)11:50
dataw0lf|wholycow: I'm a system administrator fulltime at a aerial photogrammetry / orth rectification company (Aero-Graphics), in my spare time I do low level C work, mostly.11:51
hybrid_gothdataw0lf|w: NO i am saying more problems go wrong with _windows_ the linux the linux problems are usually pebkac11:51
dataw0lf|wdrivers, etc.11:51
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dataw0lf|whybrid_goth: Apparently you haven't worked in Linux long enough.11:51
holycowdataw0lf, very cool :)11:51
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zxcany idea how to get X-Chat to open all your channels on start up?11:51
hybrid_gothdataw0lf|w: 0_o11:51
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Naliothzxc somewhere in the prefs is a place to put all that you wish to happen11:52
dataw0lf|wzxc: add them to whichever server in 'channels to join' like so : #channel1,#channel2,#channel311:52
dataw0lf|wno spaces.11:52
fluideyehey guys, can anyone try and help me get sound on my notebook11:52
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dataw0lf|wAnyways, I think we've had this discussion on ubuntu forums too many times regarding uneducated Windows bashing.11:53
fluideyei've tried the forums and howto and no success11:53
IIIEarsCan i change the platform/application name given to IRC?11:53
SuperLagIs it possible to net install Ubuntu from floppies, like you could with Debian?11:53
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dataw0lf|wIIIEars: insofar as what? Nautilus? Firefox?11:53
NaliothSuperLag, anything is possible, but WHY?11:53
garnertrhello everyone... :)11:53
Funraiserbye all11:54
hybrid_gothSELECT * FROM windows WHERE clue >011:54
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hybrid_goth0 rows returned11:54
dataw0lf|wWow.11:54
holycowheh11:54
SuperLagNalioth: because there is no CD-ROM in the machine I want to put it on11:54
onekillmy problem is that i have sound but when another sound from another program (like gaim) the soud turns to static any ideas?????????????11:54
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IIIEarsanything that doesn't say i am new to linux and likely have misconfigured something. - lol11:54
dataw0lf|wSELECT * FROM ubuntu WHERE ubuntu.clue > debian.clue11:54
dataw0lf|w0 rows returned11:54
goldfishlol11:55
holycowthats okay, at lest they are trying something new11:55
dataw0lf|wHey, I like Ubuntu.11:55
dataw0lf|wAnd the community.11:55
dataw0lf|wthus my participation in the forums.11:55
hybrid_gothi second that11:55
spiralhmmm, does anyone here know if firefox 1.0.4 will soon be packaged for ubuntu ?11:55
holycowwindows users are equally stuck up about their platform11:55
garnertrcan anyone help me w/ my laptop issue?  My DVDROM is not recognized and I'm somewhat cluess as to why... tia11:55
dataw0lf|wHowever, it'd be a lie if we didn't admit that most people using Ubuntu are new to the Linux game.11:55
hybrid_gothholycow: heh i am very stuck up for linux11:56
garnertrthat would be me!11:56
onekillI am new to linix I will admit it11:56
goldfishme too11:56
garnertrdito11:56
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hybrid_gothsemi-new11:56
holycowdataw0lf, looking at the questions in here, i would say ubuntu proves that you don't need technical profficiency to actually use it and configure it11:56
dataw0lf|wI've been using Linux since 1998, I just like to hassle people.11:56
SuperLagArrogance isn't becoming for the Linux community.  It does more harm than good.11:56
NaliothSuperLag, so nfs mount a cdrom from a neighboring machine11:56
IIIEarsholycow - most windows help channels are endless hours of chat about viruses and trojan horse programs.11:56
dataw0lf|wSuperLag: I agree.11:56
holycowhybrid_goth, i'm a zealot too, but i don't preach11:56
NaliothIIIEars, you mean "whining"?11:57
holycowSuperLag, i agree too, the basic problem is your dealing with humans11:57
SuperLagNalioth: that doesn't eliminate the need to boot from a floppy.11:57
IIIEarslol - yes11:57
holycowIIIEars, heh *nod*11:57
dataw0lf|wOk, that's my 5 minutes of speaking in #ubuntu.11:57
NaliothSuperLag, floppies it is11:57
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yyc747I have two questions: firstly, is the freenx server packaged for ubuntu in universe, and secondly, does the offical windows NX client have an installer, or can the client be downloaded seperately?11:58
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garnertrMy laptop's DVD rom is not being "seen" by Ubuntu and I don't have a clue why...11:58
hybrid_gothwell thats my $.02 in ubuntu11:59
dataw0lf|wyyc747: 1) No, 2) Unsure.11:59
hybrid_gothgarnertr: is it mounted11:59
hybrid_goth**have you tried to11:59
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garnertrhow would I determine if it is "mounted"?11:59

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