=== ubuntulog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Ubuntu Development | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-love for getting involved | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources | Ubuntu 5.04 is released! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-April/000023.html | MOM is awake! === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by Pathoschild at Sun Apr 17 13:37:02 2005 === #ubuntu-devel [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup === prevod [prevod@P1-230-20014.dialup.ns.ac.yu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kop|gone is now known as metallikop === womble [~mpalmer@eth1859.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-172-194-239.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stuNNed [~stuNNed@stunned.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === martinhj [~martinhj@host-81-191-103-214.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Benoni [~liblit@adsl-68-73-107-114.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cc [~byte@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [KaiL@p548F50E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:26] live.slug.org.au [02:26] live from edu expo here in sydney [02:26] lamont: it would be great if f-spot and gecko-sharp could both be i386 powerpc amd64 [02:31] hi jdub [02:33] jdub: again ? [02:35] lifeless: weekend expo [02:35] morning tseng [02:35] arh === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-082-082-205-180.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000d56f1e3c8.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:23] tseng: gecko-sharp is already 'any'. f-spot changed. [03:23] lamont: ta dude! [03:23] elmo: pls sync PaS 1.566 or later === tseng looks to see if gecko-sharp is still not building [03:24] lamont: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gecko-sharp/0.6-2ubuntu3/ < i only see i386 for the last few revisions [03:25] tseng, arch any [03:25] ogra: am I missing something obvious? [03:25] oh [03:25] I am [03:25] sorry. [03:26] tseng: gecko-sharp isn't in breezy [03:26] lamont, ? [03:26] thats the source [03:26] or it's arch: all [03:26] lamont, ia have it intalled here... [03:26] installedeven [03:26] wanna-build -bi386/build-db -dbreezy --info gecko-sharp [03:26] gecko-sharp: not registered [03:26] yeah I understand now the x86 built it for everyone [03:31] tseng, I hate to bother you, but have you seen the latest blam error with the new gecko-cil? [03:31] the what? [03:31] Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: /usr/lib/mozilla/libgtkembedmoz.so [03:31] worksforme? [03:32] gah, ok will update [03:32] yeah try to give me a little more info please [03:32] i have that file and all is right as rain [03:32] just a sec, trying something [03:33] tseng, ok, found it [03:33] geck-cil doesn't depend on mozilla-browser anymore, but it still needs it [03:33] it depends on firefox [03:34] and is built with firefox [03:34] hm [03:36] if it isn't installed, you get that error [03:37] ok [03:37] thanks for looking into it [03:39] /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libgtkembedmoz.so [03:39] we need to make it use that instead [03:39] give me 2 minutes [03:40] buh wth [03:42] this stupid thing is half in C for no reason [03:43] blam-gecko-utils.cpp:#include [03:43] --with-mozilla[=mozilla|firefox|thunderbird] [03:43] Whether to use mozilla, firefox or thunderbird [03:43] gtkmozembed (default: mozilla) [03:44] ah I'm dumb [03:44] it can be built with thunderbird as well? why can't it select at runtime? [03:45] i guess because its built not very nicely into a C lib [03:45] and is linked to the wrong place [03:46] ok [03:46] don't blame anything on malice, which could be blamed on incompletness instead? === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bur[n] e1 [~norml@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mkde [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:58] does anyone else have problems connecting to key servers using gpg? [03:59] heya [03:59] just near to go to bed [03:59] hi trulux [03:59] I'll need to file some bug reports regarding HP all-in-one printers [03:59] we must track support for them [03:59] I get mine printing but not scanning [03:59] though it's recgonized as a scanner too [04:01] trulux: same for my HP PSC [04:01] mine scans just fine [04:01] i use hpoj to do scanning, but it's a pain in the arse [04:02] either of you able to print to it shared via a windows xp machine? [04:02] I have to stop cupsys, stop hpoj, unplug the printer, plug it back in, start hpoj, then start xsane [04:02] bur[n] e1: I'll get over it tomorrow ASAP, and contact a folk from HP [04:02] apparently hplip works fine [04:02] bur[n] e1: yes [04:02] i keep it on my gf's windows box for scanning, but i wanna print to it [04:02] daniels: any tips? or was it pretty painless for you? [04:02] bur[n] e1: (in the sense that an XP machine can print to it when it's shared from my machine) [04:02] daniels: could we work on it for Breezy? these devices are pure crack and people is bullying them quickly [04:02] i even install unix printing for xp [04:02] bur[n] e1: worked fine, but this is more #ubuntu than #-devel [04:02] yeah yeah [04:02] sorry [04:02] trulux: yah, I know. printingroadmap will take care of it [04:02] i'm also talking the other way ;) [04:03] with linux as the client [04:03] daniels: s/will/we'll/ I take it personal, I need this bitch scanning ;P [04:03] now I must go to sleep [04:03] trulux: heh :) well, as I said, hpoj works in the meantime, even if it is a monster hack to get it switching between printing and scanning [04:03] it's 4:00am here [04:03] night dude [04:03] night [04:04] everyone happily connecting to pgp keyservers with gpg? :( === ska-fan_ [~ska-fan@dsl-082-082-195-015.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:05] i cannot work out where the problem is, whether its an ubuntu bug, whether its at my isp, or what [04:15] mkde: What address are you using? Have you tried the round-robbin server mentioned in the gpg man page? [04:15] TheMuso, yes i've tried em all :/ [04:15] #gnupg baffled so far [04:16] mkde: just did a nice big --refresh-keys [04:16] tseng, hmm [04:16] tseng, you don't know of any ports that need to be forwarded incoming do you? [04:16] no [04:16] i use it over http [04:17] tseng, on hoary? [04:17] breezy [04:17] but hoary was fine [04:17] i can't get http working [04:18] #ubuntu? === bur[n] er [~norml@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === metallikop is now known as kop|gone [04:22] ok i'm just gonna give up [04:22] night === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:34] daniels: just rebooted to see if it's working [04:35] daniels: could you send to my email the details on how you got scanning of the psc 1315 working? [04:35] daniels: I'll update hpoj packages to CVS snapshot [04:41] trulux: er, I've never had a 1315, only a 1210 [04:41] and it's worked with the packaged versions since the warty days [04:42] wretched hive of scum and villainy [04:42] daniels: OK, then just send me the details about your one === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp231-201.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-172-194-239.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@pool-70-18-98-34.alb.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pixelmonkey [~pixelmonk@ool-4572767c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@pool-70-18-98-34.alb.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [05:49] jdub, we had a rather crafty troll today with multiple hostmasks, and we hit the limit on the ban list, apparently [05:56] heh [05:56] ouch [05:56] yeah, looks like daniels is cleaning out the list ;) [05:58] Thanks, daniels! By the way, did mako give you the list of ops from the last CC meeting? What's the proper way to add us to the chanserv access list? [05:58] no worries [05:58] nope, he didn't; only jdub can add people to the access list [05:58] the only ones I roughly remember were you, crimsun and Amaranth? [05:58] but that was from the discussion at UDU rather than the CC [05:59] ajmitch_ as well [06:00] jdub: for i in ajmitch crimsun tritium amaranth; do /m chanserv access #ubuntu add $i 20; done [06:00] jdub: kthx [06:00] heh, thanks daniels, jdub. I'm double-checking the irc logs to make sure there aren't any others. e.g., possibly ogra === aisipos [~anton@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:12] okay, the UdU list (http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat) is correct, best I can tell. However, dholbach declined, and carlk wasn't present to accept. [06:12] That's from the log of the CC meeting here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2005-05-10.html === gabaug [~gabe@216-43-99-149.dsl.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [KaiL@p548F3F72.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pedro_ [~pedro@pc-200-74-115-194.megavia.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pedro_ [~pedro@pc-200-74-115-194.megavia.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === hunger [~hunger@p54A64D51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-106.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-106.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === susus [~sz@p5089DA15.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@p5089DA15.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === g14 [~g14@c-67-171-59-176.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:38] hello === zyga just read about hp and ubuntu on slashdot [08:38] interesting, if it's true [08:39] yeah, it's very much true === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:39] even more interesting that US got excluded [08:39] daniels: does HP work with canonical to get every part of that laptop (and I mean evey single one) supported? [08:40] stuff like working hibernation and wifi? [08:40] (which is unfortunatly not the case for most laptops :/ ) [08:41] yeah, as I understand it, everything that works on Windows, works on Ubuntu out of the box [08:41] working hibernation is a given for most laptops, and wifi generally works these days too [08:41] given we support centrino and atheros out of the box, as well sa prism54 and a couple of others [08:41] i dare say the majority of laptops with wifi these days would ship with ipw2[12] 00 [08:42] ipw2[12] 00? [08:43] ipw2100 and ipw2200, the two generations of centrino wireless chipsets [08:43] daniels: I've got broadcom card that just plainlny ... doesn't work, even via ndis wrapper (it appears but no connection is possible) [08:43] daniels: ah [08:44] apparently ndiswrapper has fun issues with breezy's kernel [08:44] if this works out I'll gladly buy such laptop :-) [08:44] and hell, I'd see my entire university buy lots of them too [08:45] we got lots and lots of dells but they work less then great [08:45] since they are couple of years old it's time to cycle hardware [08:45] :-) [08:45] very good thing indeed [08:45] one thing still puzzles me, why no USA? === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:49] you can usually buy a new minipci wifi card to replace that broadcom. Used 2100's and 2200's go for around 20 bucks on ebay these days. [08:50] It beats messing with ndiswrapper. [08:50] whiprush: It's a pcmcia card, even easier to replace [08:51] ah. [08:51] my laptop has no internala antena so that's far less hassle [08:51] (strange thing though it does have minipci slot) [08:52] 'computer freeze program' -- final episode looks interesting :> === Ferry [~ferry@cust.15.118.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:09] hey all [09:11] i have an interesting problem... im running "dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot" and for some reason it is generating a "-.tar.gz.cdbs-config_list". whats that all about? how do I stop it generating the file? I'm using cdbs-0.4.28-1ubuntu1 === cartman [foobar@cartman.developer.konversation] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:46] morning all === snaggen [~snaggen@c-2c79e255.034-37-73746f12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === A_Alam [~a_alam@202.41.228.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel === netio [~netio@CPE0080c6eaa09e-CM00111a55c726.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Goshawk [~Vincenzo@host219-121.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zanaga [ejabberd@62.183.242.86] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jk_ [~jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jk [~jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [~hunger@p54A64D51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@82-42-32-39.cable.ubr03.knor.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Corison [~Corison@194-144-85-254.du.xdsl.is] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zanaga [ejabberd@62.183.242.86] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [10:54] morning all! [10:55] hey Nafallo [10:57] Doea a plan regarding the menu editor exist?? [10:57] /s/??/? === hunger [~hunger@p54A64D51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tgtf [tg@ti200710a080-8426.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:16] how is Cxx transition going? [11:17] Does anyone know why firefox doesn't have the gnome theme in hoary? (I was asked this, trying to find the answer) === zoo [nobody@ip-110-188.travedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:17] hello [11:17] I wanted to start a firefox translation project in to Amharic. But there is no template file in the system. if i just ask would some one put it there? [11:17] How does ubuntu automount external usb/iee1394-drives? only by help of udev or does it need automounter support in kernel? [11:19] tgtf: almost certainly, yes - and help contribute it upstream [11:19] tgtf: you should chat to mako, he speaks amharic :-) [11:24] jdub: I hope mako is listning. can I ask on IRC channel or must send it to the mailing list? [11:25] zoo: AFAIK it uses udev/hal/dbus and no kernel support. [11:25] zoo: I am not 100% sure though. [11:25] okay, thx [11:27] zoo: it uses pmount to actually mount. [11:28] great === zoo is just building a new kernel [11:29] zoo: You can always check the ubuntu-kernel's config in /boot/config-version. [11:29] i know [11:30] thanks [11:30] tgtf: he's in the US, so probably not watching at the moment [11:30] but i am stripping it down to my hardware [11:30] tgtf: if you send an email to mako@ubuntu.com, he'll get you on the right track :) [11:31] in front of a train [11:31] (hi) [11:31] Lathiat: ... and heading the wrong way? ;-) [11:31] hunger: heh [11:32] jdub: thanx === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:33] Morning [11:33] evening [11:33] morning pitti === Nafallo got up early today. [11:34] I looked at the date 15.5 instead of the time :-P. === nohar [~nohar@je.suis.t1r.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:40] jdub: you know if the tool for setting dma on drives from early hoary are coming back in the future? :-) [11:43] Nafallo: hdparm? [11:44] zyga: is that graphical? :-) [11:44] ooh, I never wrote graphical :-P. [11:44] Nafallo: nope :] [11:44] Nafallo: gedit is grpahica l ;] [11:45] zyga: naah, I meant a graphical tool that let you check info on drives and stuff. [11:45] zyga: so is gnome-terminal ;-) [11:45] hehehhe, good point [11:50] zyga: you have to play with mv to make hdparm start where it should, right? === Keybuk [~scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:05] Nafallo: mv? [12:05] Nafallo: what do you mean? [12:05] Nafallo: /etc/hdparm.conf AFAIR [12:06] zyga: yea, but it S07 in rcS.d here. [12:06] ah you mean startup time [12:06] Nafallo: you mean as in after udev? [12:06] and hotplug [12:07] so it doesnt fail on cdroms [12:07] tseng: yea :-). it's the cdrom that needs the DMA. [12:07] tseng, hey [12:07] yeah just moving the script isnt a great plan [12:07] I keep forget to set it manually :-P [12:07] the whole system relies on symlinking it [12:07] hey ogra [12:07] hmmm backports [12:07] tseng, gecko-sharp just needs a one line change in the patch in debian/patches === mdke muses [12:08] ogra, blam just needs a hammer and a chainsaw [12:08] tseng, that too [12:08] hehe === DanielN [~kodiak@80-218-243-68.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:09] yep i was trying to add that line to blam, not gecko [12:09] silly me [12:09] ogra: BenM wants our distro patches.. maybe not this one but in general [12:09] tseng, but blam still crashes for me :/ [12:09] great === martinhj [~martinhj@host-81-191-103-214.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Loevborg [~loevborg@d38-126.dip.isp-service.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:10] tseng, lets make a big debdiff session in the end of the process for BenM [12:11] and for meebey [12:11] yep [12:11] BenM only needs debian/patches/00list === DanielN is now known as DanielN`aw [12:14] ogra: oh man he upaded a bunch in svn [12:15] oh [12:15] buh, merge [12:16] he got the __thread fix === tgtf [tg@ti200710a080-8426.bb.online.no] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:37] Riddell: ARGH [12:38] Riddell: You messed up the formatting of breezy goals. Every single tab was replaced by a space :-( [12:39] mvirkkil: oops, I didn't see any tabs [12:39] mvirkkil: feel free to revert [12:39] Riddell: I think it's a bug in kedit or something. It simply refuses to export tabs, it replaces them with spaces. [12:39] Riddell: Can't. Don't have the rights. [12:40] Riddell: Did you edit it with an external editor? [12:40] mvirkkil: konqueror [12:41] does sound like a problem [12:41] Riddell: I stumbled on that problem when I tried to edit with kedit. [12:41] Riddell: Maybe it wasn't you ;-) [12:42] Riddell: Though the diff shows it was caused by your edit: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals?action=diff [12:43] But if konqueror automatically replaces \t in forms with a space, I'd say that's a bug in konq. === Nafallo_ [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [12:46] Riddell: Do you know who is responsible for the udu wiki? [12:46] Riddell: what Qt version are you using? 3.3.3 has a bug that does precisely that, IIRC. === netio [~netio@CPE0080c6eaa09e-CM00111a55c726.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [12:47] dato: 3.3.3 [12:47] people complained that e.g. KMail converted tabs to spaces, and it was Qt. fixed in 3.3.4. [12:47] Riddell: there you are. [12:47] how evil of qt [12:47] Truly evil }:-I [12:54] Riddell: Is that qt version default for kubuntu? [12:55] mvirkkil: 3.3.3 is in hoary [12:55] 3.3.4 will be in breezy [12:56] Riddell: Ok. Thanks for reverting the changes. Do you have some other browser you can redo the changes? [12:57] I have firefox installed which seems to keep crashing and which doesn't have search inside textareas [12:58] Riddell, keeps crashing ? works fine here... [12:59] or disappearing or something, when I do alt-left === cartman [foobar@cartman.developer.konversation] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:59] hmm, mine swtches pages on alt-left.... === ska-fan [~ska-fan@dsl-082-082-195-015.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:06] damnit, it did it again, something to do with editing large textareas I suspect, is there a way to get a backtrace from firefox? [01:07] gdb ? [01:07] strace ? [01:07] hi [01:08] ogra: on BreezyGoals edit the page and move the cursor to near the bottom of the edit box selecting text with shift-left and shift-right [01:09] works fine [01:10] dudes [01:10] http://www.slug.org.au/gallery/edexpo05 [01:10] first set of photos from the edu expo this weekend [01:10] where we handed out over 500 ubuntu CDs :-) [01:10] pia is glowing [01:10] nice [01:10] radioactive! [01:10] tseng: don't worry, she's not pregnant [01:10] k. [01:11] ;-) [01:11] jdub looks pretty orange too [01:11] that is some costume [01:13] very handy [01:13] everyone knew "those crazy orange dudes from the linux booth" :) [01:14] hehe [01:14] the "orange man group" ? [01:14] ogra: heh [01:15] scary [01:16] jdub: you'd do great on "Koninginnedag" (Queen's Day) here in .nl :) [01:16] it's a bit of a tradition to wear orange on that day :) [01:16] is that roughly translatable to "dress and act like an idiot day"? [01:16] oh [01:16] heh :) [01:17] and I've been invited to do a talk about "something ubuntu-ish".. but: I've never done a talk in my life.. ever.. [01:17] does anyone have any tips? [01:17] uh [01:17] speak [01:17] hints [01:18] ogra: that's the obvious part.. [01:18] ;) === A_Alam [~a_alam@202.41.228.163] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tortoise [~tortoise@81-86-196-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra wonders why the buildds are this silent since 11:41 [01:20] im the only person uploading [01:20] they dont like me. [01:20] there ares also synced packages that didnt build yet and should retry... [01:21] but i see only i386 output of gsl for today [01:22] yay [01:22] speaking of the devil :) [01:23] cli-common just built [01:23] yep [01:23] hey.. cool: http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050512_124421.html [01:24] bah [01:24] The company confirmed that it is working with Ubuntu, one of the smaller Linux distribution providers === KaiL [~KaiL@p5485F5EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:27] Elizabeth Phillips, PR Manager for Integrity [...] said she was not aware of the Ubuntu project. [01:27] heh [01:28] mako should send her some shipit boxes ! [01:28] ogra: only a few :) [01:28] 10 bags full [01:28] yeah [01:28] I know that move will make me consider buying HP. [01:28] (if it's serious, of course) [01:29] Loevborg, it is... [01:29] they were talking about it awhile back [01:29] selling business laptops in the us with freedos installed [01:29] and a disc with ubuntu and some other linux flavors [01:31] they'd better offer actual support for linux on their laptops instead of justing shpping a cd. [01:31] heh, "they'd better" [01:32] Loevborg: canonical provides support [01:32] this must be one of the reasons for the OEMInstaller stuff? === Nafallo_ [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [01:33] jdub, that's better :) === zoo [nobody@ip-110-188.travedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:39] I just installed a self-built kernel. Now my eth0 is not setup at boottime any more. ifup eth0 helps. I see that in /etc/network/interfaces is no "auto eth0" line. Do I need that? I thought that the hotplug system brings the eth0 up anyway. [01:40] zoo: "auto eth0" does it [01:41] but with an ubuntu kernel it is working without === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [~daniel@td9091a52.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zoo [nobody@ip-110-188.travedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:09] bonjour dholbach [02:09] hellas mdke, how are you? [02:09] i am very well thanks [02:09] yourself? [02:10] i planned to do something on my thesis today, but ended up here doing some stuff for the c++ transition :-) [02:10] but i'm fine, i don't complain [02:10] hmm [02:10] thanks :-) === jdub sends dholbach to his room ;) [02:10] what stage is your thesis at? [02:10] jdub: i AM in my room :-) [02:10] d'oh! [02:10] jdub, you can't send a geek to his room [02:10] mdke: it needs love, it really does === jdub sends dholbach to the norty corner :-) [02:10] you just feed the addiction === mdke sends dholbach out walking the dog [02:11] hehe, remote controlled dholbach ... [02:11] again, when booting with an ubuntu kernel, I don't need to have "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces. The hotplug system is setting eth0 up anyway. But when I use my self-compiled kernel it does not work like this. How can I enable this hotplugging with my kernel? did i forget something? [02:11] *grins* [02:11] dholbach, you should waer your tinfoil head ;) === doko sends ogra to join dholbach and the dog for a small "walk" [02:11] doko, i just had one :) === tseng too [02:12] stupid dog [02:12] me as well [02:12] ogra: last week? ;) [02:12] doko, .... at the right speed for a walk btw ;) [02:12] jdub: what is the "norty corner"? [02:13] naughty [02:13] with a silly australian accent [02:13] *laughs* [02:13] we use that here in england too === dholbach couldnt find it in any dictionary [02:13] schlesht? [02:13] dholbach: when little kids are naughty, a common punishment is to send them to the corner [02:13] i see [02:14] it's very brutal and fascist ;) [02:14] jdub: he should know this, that's usual here as well :) [02:14] if all of you guys were working on the c++ transition, i wouldnt be here === mdke gets out his ruler [02:14] dholbach: way to pass the blame [02:14] dholbach: we are working... [02:14] tseng: i have no other choice... if i get remote controlled it's only appropriate to pass the blame === Nafallo studies for his frenchtest tomorrow * [02:15] dholbach: feel free to assign some c++ packages to me to fix [02:15] ha ha ha [02:15] everybody just sign up for packages on CxxLibraryList :-) [02:16] jdub, 100yrs ago in germany the kids also had to wear paper hats === ogra hands dholbach a paper hat [02:16] *g* [02:16] you all... get a grip! [02:17] dholbach: I seem to have run out of packages to fix after doing the ones there [02:17] *grins* [02:17] cool paper hat idea [02:17] good old days [02:18] ajmitch_: there are "some" packages left :-)) === jlj [~agp@host-81-191-64-79.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:20] dholbach: good, I can't choose which ones to do, so throw some my way ;) [02:20] i will do mine [02:20] not exactly now, but i will do them :-) [02:20] ok [02:21] tseng, Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object [02:21] in <0x00023> PixbufUtils:Fit (Gdk.Pixbuf,int,int,bool,int&,int&) [02:21] in <0x00052> PixbufUtils:ScaleToAspect (Gdk.Pixbuf,int,int) [02:21] yes [02:21] looks like f-spot has the gdk problem too [02:22] so it might lie deeper down.... not at the application level.... [02:22] is that f-spot 0.0.13? [02:22] yep [02:22] wtf [02:23] with some small changes (dh_clideps etc) === LinuxJones [~willy@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-154-85.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:31] tseng, form mono: debian/patches/02_soname_map.dpatch:- [02:31] debian/patches/02_soname_map.dpatch:+ [02:32]