/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/05/24/#launchpad.txt

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erchachehello05:00
erchacheim working on rosetta....channel schooltool and i see 5 differents dictionarios from spain....and must be only one!05:00
erchachewhy dont change it?05:00
erchacheIm spanish im system administrador of enciclopedia.us.es, fork of es.wikipedia.....our language doesnt have variants05:01
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erchachehello05:03
erchacheIm spanish im system administrador of enciclopedia.us.es, fork of es.wikipedia.....our language doesnt have variants05:03
erchacheim working on rosetta....channel schooltool and i see 5 differents dictionarios from spain....and must be only one!05:03
erchachewhy dont change it?05:03
mdkeerchache, this is a known problem: see the page http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RosettaWishList05:04
erchachewhen will solve?05:04
erchachewhen will be solve?05:04
mdkeerchache, i'm not sure that the problem will be solved05:04
mdkeerchache, perhaps file a bug and note that spanish does not have language variants, if that is true05:04
dafno need to file bugs05:05
dafwe are aware of the problem05:05
mdkeerchache, for now, perhaps the best is to use es05:05
erchacheok05:05
dafwe have taken steps to prevent the problem from getting worse05:05
erchachewhere are bugzilla of launchpad?05:05
erchacheto take note of this?05:05
dafbut currently we don't have a method of migrating old data05:05
mdkeerchache, you don't need to file a bug, as daf said05:06
mdkedaf, i c05:06
daferchache: we already have bugs open for this05:06
erchacheok05:06
mdkedaf, i suppose it is also a question of whether to try and get translations for some minor language variants, or concentrate everyone's energy on one language05:06
dafwell05:06
dafyes05:07
dafobviously, it varies from language to language05:07
mdkesome people might feel strongly about variants05:07
dafbut most languages don't have significant variations between countries05:07
mdkei will take a stand and write translations for en_GB ;)05:07
daf(of those languages that are multi-national)05:07
dafheh05:07
mdkedaf, i agree.05:07
dafactually, people do make translations into en_GB05:07
dafand en_AU and en_CA05:07
mdkedaf, even where they vary, IMO it is better to concentrate on one unified language, especially considering the translation resources05:08
mdkedaf, *grins* i'm happy to read american05:08
mdkedaf, the important thing is that someone is writing stuff!05:08
dafyeah05:11
dafEnglish is sort of a special case05:11
mdkehmm05:11
mdkewell i work on italian a bit, and i can say there is no real point making the distinction between italian and swiss italian05:12
dafright05:12
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sidneihello?09:07
carlossidnei, hi09:08
sidneihi carlos09:08
sidneiim looking for someone involved with launchpad development09:09
carlossome of the developers are here09:12
carlossidnei, what do you need?09:12
sidneiare you guys still using the 'sqlos' package?09:12
carlosyes, I think so09:13
sidneiim looking to see if there's any changes that would need to be merged back into the official repository09:14
carloshmm09:17
carlosI think SteveA|afk, or spiv are your men09:17
carlosnot sure they are around atm09:17
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sidneihey SteveA 10:12
SteveAhi10:13
sidneiSteveA: im looking for patches to sqlos if there's any, got some time to merge them10:14
SteveAsidnei: hmm, don't know10:21
sidneiSteveA: i would be happy even with just a tarball i can diff against *wink*10:21
SteveAokay, there are a couple of patches10:22
sidneigreat10:25
sidneican you get them mailed to me?10:25
sidneisidnei at enfoldsystems dot com10:25
SteveAsidnei: mailed10:28
SteveAthe main change is "Make sure that commit and abort always do what you expect"10:28
sidneigreat, thank you very much!10:29
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=== Topic for #launchpad: Welcome to the lunch-pad. This is the place for discussion with launchpad users and developers. || Register for your account on https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/+login
=== Topic (#launchpad): set by carlos at Sat Apr 2 12:11:22 2005
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mptUnfrgiven: they're awake now :-)01:23
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supertedhow often does rosetta check(/merge) with GTP ?04:35
carlossuperted, we don't merge directly from GTP04:38
carloswe merge when a new package is imported into Ubuntu's archive04:38
supertedok04:38
carlosso for Hoary, last time was before the release04:38
supertedbtw, what are the reasons for why rosetta isn't GPL'ed ? don't think i've seen any official one's04:41
SteveAhi superted 05:07
SteveAit would be good to have Rosetta's source available under the GPL05:08
SteveAthere are two reasonas that it can't be under the GPL right now05:10
SteveAthe first is that it's combined with a bunch of other code -- the whole Launchpad application.  so, separating out rosetta from that would be a lot of work.05:11
SteveAthe second is that rosetta is all about making translating software easier based on the network effect of having lots of people all translate in the same place05:15
supertedSteveA: e.g. you don't want a bunch of people forking it?05:21
SteveAyeah, encouraging that would be like making more work for us05:22
supertedwell, to some degree it backfires as well, with people not wanting to use to because of it's not gpl'ed05:23
SteveAall the data managed by rosetta is available to download05:23
SteveAyes, that's true05:23
supertedjust look at the kernel's versioning system now :)05:23
SteveAthere is a difference there, at least05:24
supertedsure, im not an expert on any of this :)05:25
SteveAbk was made to make it difficult to interoperate fully with other source code management systems05:25
SteveAwhereas, we want to make rosetta interoperate well05:25
SteveApersonally, i think rosetta will be released under the GPL or some other open source licence at some point in the future05:28
SteveAbut, there is no defininte date for this or definite plan for this right now05:28
supertedregarding sorting it out from the whole Launchpad bundle, what are the obstacles for which all of launchpad can't be gpl'ed then?05:32
supertedif you don't mind me asking :)05:33
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