[05:00] <erchache> hello
[05:00] <erchache> im working on rosetta....channel schooltool and i see 5 differents dictionarios from spain....and must be only one!
[05:00] <erchache> why dont change it?
[05:01] <erchache> Im spanish im system administrador of enciclopedia.us.es, fork of es.wikipedia.....our language doesnt have variants
[05:03] <erchache> hello
[05:03] <erchache> Im spanish im system administrador of enciclopedia.us.es, fork of es.wikipedia.....our language doesnt have variants
[05:03] <erchache> im working on rosetta....channel schooltool and i see 5 differents dictionarios from spain....and must be only one!
[05:03] <erchache> why dont change it?
[05:04] <mdke> erchache, this is a known problem: see the page http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RosettaWishList
[05:04] <erchache> when will solve?
[05:04] <erchache> when will be solve?
[05:04] <mdke> erchache, i'm not sure that the problem will be solved
[05:04] <mdke> erchache, perhaps file a bug and note that spanish does not have language variants, if that is true
[05:05] <daf> no need to file bugs
[05:05] <daf> we are aware of the problem
[05:05] <mdke> erchache, for now, perhaps the best is to use es
[05:05] <erchache> ok
[05:05] <daf> we have taken steps to prevent the problem from getting worse
[05:05] <erchache> where are bugzilla of launchpad?
[05:05] <erchache> to take note of this?
[05:05] <daf> but currently we don't have a method of migrating old data
[05:06] <mdke> erchache, you don't need to file a bug, as daf said
[05:06] <mdke> daf, i c
[05:06] <daf> erchache: we already have bugs open for this
[05:06] <erchache> ok
[05:06] <mdke> daf, i suppose it is also a question of whether to try and get translations for some minor language variants, or concentrate everyone's energy on one language
[05:06] <daf> well
[05:07] <daf> yes
[05:07] <daf> obviously, it varies from language to language
[05:07] <mdke> some people might feel strongly about variants
[05:07] <daf> but most languages don't have significant variations between countries
[05:07] <mdke> i will take a stand and write translations for en_GB ;)
[05:07] <daf> (of those languages that are multi-national)
[05:07] <daf> heh
[05:07] <mdke> daf, i agree.
[05:07] <daf> actually, people do make translations into en_GB
[05:07] <daf> and en_AU and en_CA
[05:08] <mdke> daf, even where they vary, IMO it is better to concentrate on one unified language, especially considering the translation resources
[05:08] <mdke> daf, *grins* i'm happy to read american
[05:08] <mdke> daf, the important thing is that someone is writing stuff!
[05:11] <daf> yeah
[05:11] <daf> English is sort of a special case
[05:11] <mdke> hmm
[05:12] <mdke> well i work on italian a bit, and i can say there is no real point making the distinction between italian and swiss italian
[05:12] <daf> right
[09:07] <sidnei> hello?
[09:08] <carlos> sidnei, hi
[09:08] <sidnei> hi carlos
[09:09] <sidnei> im looking for someone involved with launchpad development
[09:12] <carlos> some of the developers are here
[09:12] <carlos> sidnei, what do you need?
[09:12] <sidnei> are you guys still using the 'sqlos' package?
[09:13] <carlos> yes, I think so
[09:14] <sidnei> im looking to see if there's any changes that would need to be merged back into the official repository
[09:17] <carlos> hmm
[09:17] <carlos> I think SteveA|afk, or spiv are your men
[09:17] <carlos> not sure they are around atm
[10:12] <sidnei> hey SteveA 
[10:13] <SteveA> hi
[10:14] <sidnei> SteveA: im looking for patches to sqlos if there's any, got some time to merge them
[10:21] <SteveA> sidnei: hmm, don't know
[10:21] <sidnei> SteveA: i would be happy even with just a tarball i can diff against *wink*
[10:22] <SteveA> okay, there are a couple of patches
[10:25] <sidnei> great
[10:25] <sidnei> can you get them mailed to me?
[10:25] <sidnei> sidnei at enfoldsystems dot com
[10:28] <SteveA> sidnei: mailed
[10:28] <SteveA> the main change is "Make sure that commit and abort always do what you expect"
[10:29] <sidnei> great, thank you very much!
[01:23] <mpt> Unfrgiven: they're awake now :-)
[04:35] <superted> how often does rosetta check(/merge) with GTP ?
[04:38] <carlos> superted, we don't merge directly from GTP
[04:38] <carlos> we merge when a new package is imported into Ubuntu's archive
[04:38] <superted> ok
[04:38] <carlos> so for Hoary, last time was before the release
[04:41] <superted> btw, what are the reasons for why rosetta isn't GPL'ed ? don't think i've seen any official one's
[05:07] <SteveA> hi superted 
[05:08] <SteveA> it would be good to have Rosetta's source available under the GPL
[05:10] <SteveA> there are two reasonas that it can't be under the GPL right now
[05:11] <SteveA> the first is that it's combined with a bunch of other code -- the whole Launchpad application.  so, separating out rosetta from that would be a lot of work.
[05:15] <SteveA> the second is that rosetta is all about making translating software easier based on the network effect of having lots of people all translate in the same place
[05:21] <superted> SteveA: e.g. you don't want a bunch of people forking it?
[05:22] <SteveA> yeah, encouraging that would be like making more work for us
[05:23] <superted> well, to some degree it backfires as well, with people not wanting to use to because of it's not gpl'ed
[05:23] <SteveA> all the data managed by rosetta is available to download
[05:23] <SteveA> yes, that's true
[05:23] <superted> just look at the kernel's versioning system now :)
[05:24] <SteveA> there is a difference there, at least
[05:25] <superted> sure, im not an expert on any of this :)
[05:25] <SteveA> bk was made to make it difficult to interoperate fully with other source code management systems
[05:25] <SteveA> whereas, we want to make rosetta interoperate well
[05:28] <SteveA> personally, i think rosetta will be released under the GPL or some other open source licence at some point in the future
[05:28] <SteveA> but, there is no defininte date for this or definite plan for this right now
[05:32] <superted> regarding sorting it out from the whole Launchpad bundle, what are the obstacles for which all of launchpad can't be gpl'ed then?
[05:33] <superted> if you don't mind me asking :)