=== Burgundavia [~corey@S01060011953ac16e.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:04] there goes aptitude and ubuntu-minimal :) [12:19] night all! [12:25] night! [12:27] ivoks: libsdl-mixer1.2 is updated [12:42] siretart, MOTUGames created [12:42] Burgundavia: w00t :) [12:44] ROCK!!! [12:54] i think i'm going to bed now, sleep tight guys === JDahl [~qwerty@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2m1-135.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] is http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide the recommended guide for builing ubuntu packages? [12:58] JDahl, it's what I started from. [01:00] JDahl: no it the recommended guide for building deb packages [01:08] siretart, I just threw a lot crapload of info on MOTUGames [01:10] Burgundavia: nice. [01:11] siretart, basically created a clearinghouse of stuff that is under active development and is useful === Burgundavia would like to note that he rarely plays games, just likes looking at nice art [01:13] the page is a good starting point for doing work. [01:13] will look tomorrow for stuff needs to be done, no I need a bed ;) [01:13] gn8, cya tomorrow [01:13] s/no/now/ [01:14] cheers === minghua [~minghua@ppp-69-153-138-159.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [~minghua@ppp-69-153-138-159.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [01:58] how long will NEW be frozen === Riddell_ [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun_ [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abarbaccia [~abarbacci@ool-18b8cf07.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] Burgundavia: is your blam fixed now? === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-197-172.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fackamato [~fackamato@h120n2fls33o1012.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] do we have a monkey journal package somewhere? [03:37] <|QuaD-_> tseng: lol.... [03:37] zomglolerskater [03:45] |QuaD-_: heh we got trolled. [03:45] <|QuaD-_> tseng: :) [03:46] id better sleep [03:46] cya dudes [03:46] <|QuaD-_> ttyl === AndyFitz [~andy@wlanconf-nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dahane [~dahane@c159081.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abarbaccia [~abarbacci@ool-18b8cf07.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kurros_ [~wade@92-14.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [~lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@beac872-0b01-dhcp181.bu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AndyFitz [~andy@wlanconf-nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:57] I am trying to package a python extension module, and I need to know the platform specific lib path (e.g., build/linux-i686-2.4). Can anyone think of a simple way to get that information in setup.py? === Amaranth cries [06:37] Amaranth, ? [06:38] oh, i was hoping vlc would be fixed before the C++ move [06:38] so i could use the new dbus crack [06:43] you'll just have to be patient :) [06:43] yeah, i know [06:43] what's wrong with vlc? [06:45] *shrug* [06:45] if i try to install the new dbus and hal vlc gets removed [06:45] oh, is that all? :) [06:46] probably just needs rebuilt/transitioned to the new dbus [06:46] which may involve source changes === dahane [~dahane@c161150.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] I made my rudimentary python package, but with a hardcoded link to /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages (I have python2.4xxx in Build-Depends). My package works fine for python2.3 also, so is this a bad procedure, or should I just maintain seperate versions for python2.3 and python2.4 if I want that? === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] JDahl: Well, ubuntu only has 2.4 (afaik) so it shouldn't be a problem. [07:29] Amaranth, yeah... but I wouldn't mind making it accessible for Debian also [07:29] ubuntu has 2.3 available to it. [07:29] and it's a good idea to make it as version agnostic as possible [07:29] IMO [07:29] in the bittorrent package they have a PYTHON_VERSION variable that uses some shell command to get the version [07:30] ok, thanks.. I will look that up === Amaranth goes to bed [07:30] if they use the Setup.py stuff [07:30] it should be pretty much automatic [07:30] (or whatever it's called, think it was setup.py) === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089DC51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [~sz@p5089DC51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dabaSlon [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-178-134.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dabaSlon_slp [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-178-134.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:03] WTF? klibc? the KDE people thought glibc was the Gnome libc? === Lathiat laughs === motaboy [~motaboy@host85-39.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] Treenaks: its a minimal libc subset for use with early user sapce [09:07] Lathiat: ah, like uclibc [09:07] not really [09:07] that's a minimal libc :) [09:08] its more of a subset, specifically to provide enough for early user space stuff [09:08] ah [09:08] uclibc tends to implement most stuff [09:08] not sure hwo far klibc goes === |QuaD-_ [~QuaD@beac872-0b01-dhcp144.bu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:08] yes, and there are tools to strip the unused functions given a set of binaries that use the lib [09:08] or something [09:08] yeh [09:08] 'static linking'? ") [09:08] :) [09:09] no [09:09] it really modifies the .so [09:09] (i was joking) [09:09] I did that once when I was installing Linux on some old SMC AP [09:09] (don't ask :)) [09:09] heh cool [09:09] it had 2M of memory [09:10] WTF? klibc? Treenaks thought klibc was the KDE libc? [09:10] :P [09:10] Treenaks: Its the bloatware libc [09:12] HostingGeek: of course I didn't think that.. *sigh* === Treenaks hands HostingGeek the dictionary page on sarcasm === HostingGeek hands Treenaks the GNOME dictionary page on sarcasm === Lathiat drops random unix manuals on HostingGeek [09:20] <|QuaD-_> HostingGeek: what hosting company you own? [09:22] |QuaD-_: why do you ask? [09:22] <|QuaD-_> HostingGeek: i am always looking for a new hosting company :) [09:22] |QuaD-_: vhcshosting.com [09:24] <|QuaD-_> HostingGeek: ok [09:24] ahh lag... [09:25] <|QuaD-_> HostingGeek: no vds? [09:26] |QuaD-_: no [09:26] |QuaD-_: dedicated server @ savvis [09:27] <|QuaD-_> HostingGeek: i meant offering :) [09:27] |QuaD-_: Not for free... and not on the free server [09:27] <|QuaD-_> oh, i didn't even realize it was free :) [09:27] free server == server used for free hosting [09:27] <|QuaD-_> HostingGeek: pm [09:27] |QuaD-_: lol look at the reviews: http://www.clickherefree.com/hosting-free/details.php?id=2022 [09:28] yeh like those sites are ever credible === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0741.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] hi [09:35] WooHoo 7 clicks in adsense today! [09:36] and in the morning there was only 1 === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@beac872-0b01-dhcp187.bu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC1AD3.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo_ [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0741.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CxxLibraryList [10:24] i did my share for today :) === |QuaD- [~QuaD@beac872-0b01-dhcp157.bu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dahane [~dahane@c228139.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@beac872-0b01-dhcp137.bu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] res === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] hi dudes [11:25] i came in here yesterday to suggest a package for universe [11:26] just spoke to the author, and he said that he would be happy to give up packaging it if one of you wanted to do it on a more format basis [11:26] hi [11:26] format/formal [11:26] hi there [11:27] mdke: which package? [11:27] it is a update-rc.d frontend [11:27] ici: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/ubm.html [11:27] taht the forum one? [11:27] hi Burgundavia [11:27] Burgundavia, its on the forum, not sure if its the forum one [11:27] yes, it is [11:27] you use it burgs? [11:28] no, just was talking with ogra about it [11:28] what was the conclusion? [11:28] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27740 [11:28] too much info [11:28] ogra Burgundavia, yep, i know the tool === mdke nods [11:28] ogra azeem, to many options [11:28] ogra azeem, (in the tool) [11:28] any feedback to the author would be appreciated I'm sure [11:29] it would be nice if we could bring him in [11:29] as a reach out to the community type of thing [11:29] bridge the forum, dev divide [11:29] he is a nice guy [11:29] about the most frequent poster to the italian ML [11:30] hmm, is built on perl [11:30] mdke, i'll have to write a spec for that tool, a draft of what we awnt is on http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalConfigTools [11:30] yes [11:30] hi ogra [11:30] hmm [11:30] hi ogra [11:31] so you have a similar tool already? [11:33] ogra: my suggestion for GraphicalConfigTools, please use system-tools-backends :) [11:33] hey tseng [11:33] koke, where i can avoid that i wont :) [11:33] ogra: we kicked ass on mono yesterday [11:34] koke, but if you love to work on changing the awful perl code.... [11:34] ogra, ok that spec doesn't look much like his program ;) I would tend to say, the program is there, if someone wants to take over the packaging and put it in universe, then that's cool. If not, np [11:34] tseng, yay [11:34] monodevelop was working for awhile [11:34] ogra, but you could contact him about it [11:34] mdke, thats why i already put it on UniverseCandidates two weeks ago... [11:35] ogra, ok sorry man [11:35] ogra, i wasn't to know [11:35] i'll tell the guy who writes it [11:36] mdke, abelli poked me several times about it (twice a day for about a week) [11:36] i bet [11:36] ok [11:39] i'm off [11:39] thanks guys === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [11:42] ogra: I've just looked at the s-t-b perl scripts, and.... I agree 100% with you :D [11:43] heh [11:44] koke, but the plan is to probably make some bountys of it, so probably working for money on it might not be this bad :) lets see... [11:45] hmmm... bounties... :) === ogra_d [~ogra@p5089DC51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [~user@202.172.110.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] hi all! [12:12] what is the issue with gwet and gwet2? [12:21] hmm [12:25] isnt gwget gtk1 ? === ivoks [~ivoks@wall.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] hi [12:30] no [12:31] gwget is the latest version of gwget [12:31] they both appear to be the same app [12:31] ? [12:31] just gwget is an older version [12:31] monolog? :) === herzi [~herzi@d043215.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] Treenaks, Lathiat: uclibc still aims to be posix compliant. klibc does not. [01:22] klibc is targeted at being included in the kernel, violates all sorts of elf linking semantics, and implements only just enough of everything in order to make early userspace happen. === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-212-246.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] hello doko :) [01:29] ivoks: hi === koke seeks for an amd64 gcc-4.0 builder :) [01:39] hi [01:40] http://155.210.13.152/~koke/Devel/ubuntu/universe-transition/result/abcmidi.debdiff.diff [01:40] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=288770 [01:40] is there a problem if i repackage one package from main? [01:40] i really hate how kernel-package is packaged [01:43] please don't fuck with kernel-package, it's kinda critical === Burgundavia gives out the understatement award to thom [02:00] ouchh! kill me, my auto-patch scripts are not valid :( [02:00] they patch the sources directly, when it should be a dpatch [02:01] anyway I'll have a list of which patches apply cleanly [02:01] and a repository of patches === DanielN [~kodiak@80-218-243-68.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [~bradb@MTL-ppp-146985.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng|work [~ccc27a01@sls-eb20p9.dca2.superb.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [03:07] found eof where expected more change data or trailer at /usr/lib/dpkg/parsechangelog/debian line 136, line 5. [03:07] dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package [03:07] anybody knows what this means? [03:08] sounds like more severe damage [03:08] that your debian/changelog is broken [03:08] mhm [03:08] but I'm using the given template [03:08] DanielN: use dch(1) for editing debian/changelog [03:08] DanielN, use dch [03:08] ok [03:08] dch good [03:08] i only found it when teuf showed me at lca [03:09] i knew there had to be someting that did it because all the times always had second accuracy i just never bothered to look. :P) [03:09] hm, but dch prints out the same err msg [03:31] another question: can I make the gpg signing manually, when it's failed? [03:33] DanielN: debsign [03:33] thanks === Danten [~danten@h157n11c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fackamato [~fackamato@h120n2fls33o1012.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HiddenWolf [~HiddenWol@213-73-250-180.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] hey guys, what's the state of xfce in universe? [04:13] its working fine [04:13] is 4.3?(is it) in? [04:16] harhar.. first package built.. working fine :) [04:16] HiddenWolf, 4.2.1 afaik.... [04:16] HiddenWolf, 4.3 will be breezy [04:16] hm, I'm anxious for 4.3, and a breezy stable enough to dare switch :) [04:17] HiddenWolf, but rather ask crimsun if hes around again, he manages the Xfce team [04:17] breezy will break baly tomorrow... [04:17] badly even [04:20] what are you doing ogra :) [04:21] c++? [04:21] Lathiat, breaking all the c++ libs..... not me though [04:22] ogra, I hope we've got some devels with a hoary system then. ;) [04:22] nope, but hopefully some devs that dont use kubuntu ;) [04:23] if you only do upgrades and no dist-upgrades it will work... [04:23] the developers don't generally ARE WE THERE YET apt-get as badly as the users ;-) [04:23] thom: I resent that. [04:23] poor sods, I bet the channel will flood with poor sods tomorrow. === Amaranth hopes that's how you spell that word :) [04:23] heh... [04:23] Amaranth: "resemble" ;-) [04:24] I have no problems with all my C++ being removed, except vlc. :) [04:24] http://www.lyrical.nl/song/5713 [04:24] update-manager only does upgrade, right? [04:24] yep [04:25] since it's meant for security stuff [04:25] and *-updates stuff, i guess === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] Howdy === JanC [~janc@JanC.member.lugwv] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@wall.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] hi hay :) === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] res [04:42] panic in windows world... new virus :) [04:42] ivoks, new species of sophur? [04:43] Newheur-PE [04:43] and [04:43] Win32.Worm.Eyeveg.F [04:43] hi [04:43] i don't know what they are, but nod32 is the only one detecting them [04:44] so, i don't care :) [04:45] http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32eyevegg.html === magnon [~magnon@magnon.photogeeks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] hah, i wish they'd invent something new [04:53] have it use email, and wifi :) [04:53] it'd bounce through the air, literally [04:53] I'm sure it's possible. :P === Fackamato [~fackamato@h120n2fls33o1012.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [~koke@155.210.232.138] has joined #ubuntu-motu === leto [~fvalton@adsl-145-252.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] I have serious problems with the UniverseCxxTransition page [05:36] firefox and w3m crash when editing :( [05:39] ive had lots of firefox crashes recently === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.146] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng|work [~ccc27a01@sls-eb20p9.dca2.superb.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === stone__ [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fackamato [~fackamato@h120n2fls33o1012.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fackamato [~fackamato@h120n2fls33o1012.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-213-004.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fackamato macaronies unt teh falu sausage for teh win aye le soon le fewd === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] hi! [07:21] hi [07:21] Heya herve === koke [~koke@155.210.232.135] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] did you make the right choice? http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php [07:32] :-) [07:35] herve, my first choice seems to be debian....my second is ubuntu it says.... [07:36] ubuntu is missing the logo :-/ [07:36] ogra, so you made the right choice :-) [07:36] heh [07:38] herve: are you writing that page? [07:39] becuase i told it "dev tools easily available" and it said Failed these criterias: [07:39] # Does not include development tools [07:39] for ubuntu [07:39] ogra, me too :-) [07:39] thom, no, just found it in a news site [07:39] what's the deal with the mono team right now - beagle package still needs to have dependencies built in [07:39] strange, I chose easily available development tools [07:40] abarbaccia, please see the topic [07:40] but when, once you choose a free distro with apt-get, etc. [07:40] it gives you debian/ubuntu [07:40] ogra_d, I have the ubuntu logo [07:43] ha, i told it i didn't care about the package manager and i still got debian and ubuntu [07:43] and it basically told me about every major distro out there [07:43] Amaranth, all your base are belong to ubuntu! :-) [07:44] ogra, I guess you're tracking the mono uploads in debian? [07:44] herve, tseng does [07:45] what's still needed for monodevelop? [07:45] raise your arm for an omelette [07:46] so I know how many eggs I have to break :-) === ogra still looks at f-spot, monodevelop didnt build yet [07:46] where can I get a popcon list?? [07:46] to sort a list of packages to be fixed?? [07:46] koke: popcon.ubuntu.com? [07:46] popcon.ubuntu.com ? [07:46] oh! thanks :) [07:47] I should try the obvious choice more often [07:47] popcon really should get derooted and get a gui.... [07:48] it doesn't need a gui, besides the one to say "enable popcon y/n" [07:49] does anyone know where i can get libwxgtk2.5-dev? [07:49] thats what i mean... a .desktop file with a nifty icon... [07:49] and it runs as nobody [07:49] HOME=/tmp su nobody -pc "sh -c /usr/sbin/popularity-contest" [07:50] err, libwxgtk2.5-dev is in hoary but not breezy? === Amaranth gives up on wx2.5 [07:57] orga did not see that there!! sorry bout that [08:02] I'm a bit lost in transition :) [08:02] what should I do whith UniverseCxxTransition? [08:02] I *need* to fix something :) [08:04] koke: You've been around seb128 too long. [08:05] question: is there only gpl'ed software in universe? [08:05] no [08:06] then it's possible to add a BSD licensed programm, for e.g? [08:07] I don't see why not. [08:08] ok [08:08] bye [08:08] out of bettery [08:08] :( [08:23] Amaranth, do you still need info about libwxgtk2.5-dev? [08:23] herve: yeah [08:24] wx 2.5 was removed from unstable [08:24] dangerous crap conflicting with 2.4 [08:24] and a nice flamewar on debian-devel :-) [08:24] link to said flame war? :) [08:24] search "outragous maintainer" [08:25] removed from unstable, I mean removed from the debian archives [08:25] by the ftpmasters [08:25] so why is it removed from breezy? [08:25] or just wxWidgets [08:25] because of sync? [08:25] because elmo reads debian-devel? :-) [08:27] bleh, why do we care about 2.4? [08:28] because of the many packages using it [08:30] so why not add a Conflicts? [08:31] ask the maintainer [08:31] that was the start of the flamewar [08:31] no, in fact [08:31] the flamewar begins in a bugreport [08:31] about asking to add the Conflicts [08:32] i mean why can't we have a Conflicts in the Ubuntu version? [08:35] 'Ubuntu and its "appropriation" of Debian maintainers' === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.88.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0741.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] Packaged "when" and "qemu-launcher" [08:42] when? === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:42] batteries... [08:43] herve :) [08:43] yo ivoks! [08:43] when - simple calendar === koke [~koke@155.210.232.135] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] DanielN, I didn't get your point about GPL'ed programs in universe [08:44] herve: So, where can I get wx2.5 packages then? :) [08:44] hm... [08:44] koke, batteries too? :-) [08:44] what a bunch of idiots... [08:44] Amaranth, use the source Luke ;-) [08:44] "you destroyed our server, we can't print anymore" [08:44] idiots... [08:44] err, where are the source packages? :) [08:44] herve: I asked if there are non gpl'ed programs in universe [08:45] herve: I got some power :) [08:45] DanielN, haaaaa I missed the "non"! [08:45] they were printing over IPP directly to printer... idiots... and he has MS certificats for system administrator... [08:45] what do you think about http://pastebin.com/285256 ?? [08:45] koke, me too! too late sadly... [08:45] it worths an upload?? [08:45] herve: :-) [08:45] ivoks, the printer ran out of memory? crashed? burnt? [08:46] herve no... stoopid osx has serius problems with stability [08:46] koke, harmless and useful, upload and send the patch where appriopriate [08:46] (appropriate) [08:46] today was sooooo hot in zagreb [08:47] ivoks, and they thought that was the server down? [08:47] i got angry, went to the store and buyed new pants... this one on me were totaly wett :( [08:47] :-) [08:47] I'd the sun to come out here in Grenoble [08:47] +like [08:47] herve no... server is up... they tought server did something to mac and make him unable to print [08:47] ivoks, baaad bad server! [08:47] ivoks, looks like a new entry to the BOFH! [08:48] i wouldn't say anything if some guy tells me stuff like that [08:48] but, MSCE [08:48] brainwashed [08:48] well, you didn't expect a MSCE guy to get a clue about MacOSX? ;-) [08:49] herve no, but how can MSCE guy be so dumb to tell linux did something to osx and this one can't print anymore [08:49] same guy told me that microsoft invented TCP/IP [08:50] what do they learn them on that courses? :) [08:50] you told it, brainwashed [08:50] somethimes i think that MSCE really don't know what Windows can do... === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] omg does anyone uses bacula backup system? [08:52] or even reads posts on bcaula user list? [08:53] no... [08:53] ? [08:53] too bad, there are some really funny stuff going on :) [08:54] ivoks: nope, but why? [08:55] one guy said that bacula isn't backup system for production [08:56] when someone asked him why [08:56] he said it can't restore files [08:56] omg :) [08:57] ouch! REJECTED, uploads to hoary are not allowed :) [08:57] koke, hoary-updates? [08:57] no, hoary [08:57] what did you expect then? :-) [08:57] I missed to change the distribution [08:57] herve, all hoary uploads have to be processed manually.... [08:57] ha ok [08:58] I know, it was for breezy [08:58] :) [08:58] so... [08:58] would anyone review that wifi-radar? [08:58] ivoks, what changed? [08:58] nothing :) [08:58] it just waits for approval :) [08:59] did I finished reviewing it... [08:59] i'm going to die of old age before my package get's uploaded [08:59] herve you did, but shouldn't couple of motus review it? [09:00] come on, time needs time (French proverb) [09:00] ivoks, another couple, yes [09:00] brb [09:01] I prepared yesterday an updated package for keychain, and put it to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUToReview. Is anyone looking at that page or should I rather ping maintainers for reviewing? [09:01] both [09:02] if some are online, take your chance [09:02] uploads already auto-close bugs in malone?? [09:03] ok. will do === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] have to go, see u [09:17] do you get the same problem of gnome hanging when you log out? [09:20] heh [09:20] i have problem that suspend to sleep doesn't work on 2.6.12 :( === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:21] I won't trust 2.6.12 as long as it's not released stable and packaged in main :-) [09:21] AOL :) [09:22] how do you get the latest bugs entered in bugzilla? [09:22]