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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Fri Apr 8 09:50:53 2005
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Fri Apr 8 09:50:53 2005
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motaboyHi to all!09:06
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JReAnybody have notice that there is a bug with kde 3.4 and Cervisia?09:47
RiddellJRe: nope, what's the problem?11:05
JRethe icon in the konqueror toolbar has dissapeared is it normal?11:07
JRei was discussing that yesterday with someone in debian-kde 11:09
amumoin'11:10
JRegood morning ;)11:11
alleemoin'11:15
JRegood morning ;)11:39
RiddellJRe: cervisia toolbar icon may well be deliberate in an attempt to tidy up konqueror's toolbar11:41
Riddellof course what's really needed is a drop down menu of file views11:42
JReRiddell: so it's not a bug11:44
JRe?11:44
RiddellI suspect not11:45
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JReallee: i have seen in some kde packages changelog that some maintainer are sweeping from the kde.mk class file of cdbs from the one furnished on the kde svm12:03
JReallee: you know why and if it's a good idea?12:03
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alleeJRe: AFAIU for standard KDE apps there's no big advantage to switch to kde.mk from alioth svn.12:13
alleeJRe: when you plan to syn with a stable branch like done with the KDE modules new version is worth a look.12:14
Riddelldo a diff and see what's changed?12:14
alleemany patches are already submitted for CDBS to b.d.o.  Rest will follow soon.   So a future sync with cdbs with sid does the same ;)12:15
alleebbl lunch12:16
JReallee: thanks good appetite ;)12:16
uniqanyone tried kimdaba? 12:18
JReuniq: yeah i did12:20
uniqis it good? 12:21
JReuniq: yeah it's good, moreover if you have a thousand pictures ;)12:22
uniqi have like 5000.. nicely sorted in a filestructure.12:22
JReuniq: so it should be good but you have some long*** tagging stuff before enjoying it ;)12:23
JReuniq: it lacks also some advandced logic queries12:24
uniqok.. i'll try it.12:25
uniqcan you tag directories? 12:26
JReuniq: you can select all the pics of a direcotry and set a multiple tag12:28
JReuniq: it's what you wantto do?12:28
uniqyes. thanks.12:31
JReuniq: if you test it can you tell me if it's possible to reuse the tags set with digiKam with KimDaBa because it was not possible at the time when i tested it12:33
uniqyou can only import exported kimdaba tags.12:34
JReuniq: on kimdaba ML there is a perl script which is able to do the conversion if you're interrested12:35
JReuniq: http://mail.kdab.net/pipermail/kimdaba/2005-January/000982.html12:35
JReuniq: and http://mail.kdab.net/pipermail/kimdaba/2005-January/000979.html for the file12:36
uniqthanks.12:36
JReuniq: they should have utilised the same database :(12:36
JRenext showimg release will also have a database feature12:37
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alleeJRe: there was a try long ago to standardize meta infos (KIMI) like KIPI.  No consensus was found.01:14
JReallee: they are still working on that or they have given up?01:16
JReallee: because it will be a kick-ass killer app set digiKam - ShowImg - KimDaBa :)01:17
alleeNo ongoing work.01:18
alleeJRe: there's gwenview (4th kIPI app).   All of them were involded in KIMI and KIPI discussion01:20
JReallee: aaaaaarg :(01:30
JReallee: i think they will include some import/export01:35
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JRewo they are wroking on the skype support in kopete ;)02:52
Riddellhmm, GPLed?02:54
JRei hope :) i just have seen this checking out the playground/network repo02:55
JReit should be gpl no ?02:56
RiddellI think there's a skype API library that skype release, don't know the licence02:58
Riddellhaving SIP support in kopete would be cool03:31
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alleeRiddell: did anyone look at konference?  SIP, videoconferencing AFAIU03:42
Riddellallee: ah no, was going to but kde-apps was down03:45
Riddellthanks for reminding me03:45
JReallee: you have try konference?03:51
alleeJRe: It's on todo for over a year ;)03:54
alleeWhen I tried it first did not compile and then it did not work :(  Then out of free time slots03:56
alleeThere's a new release.  I'm tempted to try again03:56
alleeOkay, okay convinced I'll try konference again ;)04:06
JRei try too sounds interresting ;)04:06
JRei hope there is no unmet dependencies :)04:08
JReallee: compile error it seems that ffmpeg is required04:26
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alleeJRe: requires much more.  Last time I stopped with: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=23210704:32
JReallee: okay it's not easy to test ;)04:34
alleeYes, especially that I can find my old debian dir on a backup :(  Now from scratch again04:36
JReallee: have you try recently kasablanca or kftpgrabber ?04:47
alleeJRe: never04:47
dokoamu: ping04:51
uniqkasablanca looks nice.04:56
JReuniq: both kftpgrabber and kasablanca are nice04:57
JReuniq: i think we need a best ftp client in kubuntu than konqueror04:57
uniqwhich do you prefer, kasablanca or kftpgrabber? 04:58
uniqkasablanca sounds cooler.04:58
Riddellwhat's better about them?04:59
JReuniq: i have not tried the new version (kftpgrabber 0.6.2 and kasablanca 0.4.2)04:59
uniqok.. i'll test both then :)04:59
JReRiddell: handling the upload king (ascii binary) (enter passive mode) (set the upload policy)04:59
amudoko: yep?05:00
JReuniq: tell me what you think about them ;) i am currently compiling kftpgrabber05:01
uniqwhat i miss in konqueror is a decent download queue.. and some way to limit downloadbandwidth.05:01
JReuniq: there is the debian dir in the kftpgrabber tarball ;)05:02
uniqniceness.05:02
dokoamu, did you have a chance to integrate my patch?05:02
JReuniq: wow kftpgrabber new version have made amazing progress05:05
amudoko: comes on the sec. part of the day :)05:07
JReuniq: if you want to quick test i have made a quickpackage http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/kftpgrabber (uploaded with kftpgrabber ;) )05:08
uniqthanks.. but I need amd64 package.. 05:09
JResorry ;)05:10
JReuniq: kasablanca is nice too but it lackas some functionnalities i think05:16
JReuniq: after testing both i would say that kftpgrabber is nicer for the moment ;)05:18
JReRiddell: can i do a clean package of it for kubuntu?05:18
RiddellJRe: sure05:21
JReit could be a good software for the one who wants more ftp features than the one of konqueror (and i don't love kbear very much)05:22
uniqi really don't like kbear at all.05:24
alleeJRe: look at the tools again as a newbie.   Are they easy to use?  Your mother klicks on a ftp link and kasablanca/kftpgrabber starts ...05:24
JReallee: my mother barely use ftp ;)05:25
JReallee: for a newbie it's not as good as konqueror05:25
uniqallee: i see your point.. it shouldn't be associated with ftp-urls.. imho.05:25
uniqkonq is good at downloading single files from ftp.05:26
JRei agree with that05:26
JRebut it do have a place in the universe, no?05:26
alleeJRe: thx.  Okay.  Newbies are served by konqueror.  So only powerusers left (for me universe sounds fine)05:27
JReallee: yeah that way is goosd05:30
JReallee: it's true that for a perfect newbie, konqueror is a way better05:31
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hungerHi there!06:12
Riddellhello hunger 06:13
alleehi hunger 06:13
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Riddellbrave06:14
hungerRiddell: All that can happen is me ruining my setup....06:15
hungerRiddell: I have backups.06:15
hungerRiddell: So far only a couple of kde-dev debs got uninstalled.06:16
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Riddelldoko: I'm investigating the 64 bit build failures of qt10:47
dokothanks, I did look at 3.3.4, but it's the same source.10:50

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