[12:05] <siretart> rules is using dh_shlibdeps, so I think they should be handled automatically
[12:07] <ajmitch> it's more that some libraries have an shlibs file that needs changed
[12:09] <siretart> ah. ic. no, this package seems to be ok
[12:12] <ajmitch> siretart: ok, I'll look over it tomorrow, I guess :)
[12:13] <siretart> alright
[12:20] <abarbaccia> hey guys - who determines the numbers of the ubuntu releases?  5.04 and 5.10?
[12:20] <abarbaccia> is that 5 for 2005
[12:21] <tseng> yes
[12:21] <abarbaccia> and 4 for april and 10 for october?
[12:21] <tseng> and the month
[12:21] <abarbaccia> cute
[12:22] <nmorse> anyone here have an ali5451 sound card?
[12:23] <ogra> nmorse, please use #ubuntu for support requests
[12:25] <JDahl> I am packaging a python package I am working on, and I am wondering if I have to provide the source for the documentation, or if I can just copy html and ps files to /usr/share/doc
[12:53] (tseng/#ubuntu-motu) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303194
[12:53] <tseng> shrug
[12:56] <Burgundavia> tseng, has the functionality of checking feeds at startup been removed?
[12:56] <tseng> "functionality"?
[12:56] <tseng> yes
[12:56] <Burgundavia> why?
[12:56] <tseng> beats me
[12:56] <Burgundavia> ok
[12:57] <tseng> the author tried to treat me like joe dubmass user when i was reporting a real bug
[12:57] <tseng> so
[12:57] <tseng> ask him yourself :P
[12:57] <Burgundavia> very odd, as when you startup blam, you shouldn't need to click the button for it to do something
[12:57] <tseng> turned out he was the clueless one in the end, anyway
[12:57] <Burgundavia> the muine guy and I have disagreed on bugs as well
[12:57] <tseng> well thats different
[12:57] <tseng> jorn owns your face
[12:58] <tseng> (and knows what you are talking about)
[01:03] <tseng> woo gtk-sharp-2 successful
[01:03] <tseng> on all archs
[01:03] <ogra> wow
[01:03] <tseng> now i have to build gecko and gtksourceview again
[01:04] <ogra> heh, gecko ?
[01:04] <tseng> gecko-sharp2
[01:04] <ogra> ah, yep
[01:07] <tseng> i think thats all I can do without dbus and cxx freeze
[01:07] <tseng> after those build we can do MD
[01:09] <ogra> then lest see that CXX is done soon...
[01:09] <tseng> heh
[01:10] <tseng> im guessing i dont have barely any cxx on my system besides blam
[01:10] <tseng> im sure daniel, andrew, and jorge will try to race to get the most fixes in
[01:15] <`crimsun> gotta run, night all
[01:17] <Unfrgiven> hi all
[01:17] <tseng> hi
[01:17] <Unfrgiven> tseng: ogra: you guys are doing a rocking job with all things mono
[01:17] <Unfrgiven> keep up the great work guys
[01:17] <tseng> thanks.
[01:17] <tseng> we are so hard
[01:17] <ogra> heh
[01:17] <Unfrgiven> :)
[01:18] <tseng> i hope i get approved for main
[01:19] <ogra> tseng, sure, why not ?
[01:19] <tseng> i dunno, im not the best guy around
[01:19] <schweeb> how's the CXX migration going
[01:26] <Unfrgiven> tseng: any update on tomboy? as in when should we expect the package to be installable? currently it has some unsatisfied dependencies
[01:26] <tseng> eh
[01:26] <tseng> mono needs to go to main so we can build the dbus mono bindings
[01:26] <tseng> which looks like > 2 weeks from now
[01:27] <tseng> hm i need to set up irssi to log everything
[01:27] <tseng> or a subset
[01:29] <ogra> Unfrgiven, seen the topic ? :)
[01:30] <tseng> blah
[01:30] <tseng> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:30] <tseng>   mozilla-firefox-dev: Depends: firefox-dev but it is not going to be installed
[01:30] <ogra> oh, yeah, we dropped the mozilla-firefox(-dev) packages :)
[01:31] <tseng> yes
[01:31] <ogra> so from now on its just firefox and firefox-dev
[01:32] <ogra> which obviously contains a bit of c++ :(
[01:32] <tseng> yeah but thats ok
[01:32] <tseng> its already through
[01:38] <tseng> i guess neither of my roomates are coming home today
[01:38] <schweeb> tseng: irssi is pretty easy to set up to log
[01:38] <tseng> schweeb: dude tell me when I get back
[01:38] <tseng> schweeb: and watch my buildLogs for me
[01:38] <tseng> schweeb: fix all the bugs
[01:38] <schweeb> rol
[01:38] <schweeb> no
[01:38] <schweeb> I'm gonna go watch star wars 3 in a couple hrs
[01:39] <schweeb> /set autolog on
[01:40] <schweeb> then I believe a /save after that should do it
[01:40] <schweeb> you may have to do a /log open
[01:40] <schweeb> or /log start
[01:40] <tseng> eh
[02:09] <Unfrgiven> ogra: no i hadn't seen the topic :) i wasn't complaining. just asking a question
[02:09] <Unfrgiven> but your point is well made :)
[02:09] <ogra> :)
[02:16] <Unfrgiven> schweeb: where are you from? im seein star wars tonight as well
[02:16] <schweeb> MI
[02:17] <Unfrgiven> MI = ?
[02:18] <Unfrgiven> :)
[02:18] <schweeb> Michigan, USA
[02:18] <Unfrgiven> ah i c
[02:18] <Unfrgiven> so you're going to some preview screening?
[02:19] <schweeb> yep
[02:19] <Unfrgiven> kewl :)
[02:45] <blueyed> I've patched the source of openssl and used "debian/rules (build|binary)" to get an udeb file. I think I should bump the version somehow so that I can upgrade the existing installed package. Is this the way to go? I cannot reinstall the existing package, because I'm on the server with ssl and don't want to risk not being able to login again.
[02:49] <blueyed> ok. nevermind. udeb was wrong.. ;)
[03:10] <tseng> schweeb: are my logs going to rotate out and be dated?
[03:10] <tseng> schweeb: it doesnt look that way atm
[07:46] <schweeb> tseng: no, no log rotation... you can use the set command to add a `date +blah` to the filename
[07:46] <schweeb> I believe
[07:49] <schweeb> and just so everyone knows, Star Wars ep3 rocks.
[07:50] <Amaranth> grr
[07:50] <Amaranth> how did you see it already?
[07:50] <Lathiat> yeh doesnt sceen here for like another 10 hours
[07:50] <schweeb> employee only screening at the movie theatre
[07:50] <schweeb> my sister works there
[07:51] <Lathiat> i should get a job at a cinema
[08:04] <abarbaccia> hey guys - i've been running breezy and right now its telling me it can't find the GTK configure script
[08:06] <\sh> morning everybody
[08:25] <abarbaccia> morning!?!! It's 3AM here!
[08:26] <abarbaccia> which is why im going to sleep
[08:32] <\sh> well, here is 08:32pm ;)
[08:32] <\sh> aeh 8:32am ;)
[09:06] <motaboy> Hi to all!
[09:58] <DanielN> morning :)
[10:06] <\sh> now this must be explained
[10:08] <\sh> -rw-r--r--  1 shermann shermann  2688 May 18 08:08 libqssl-dev_2.0-1ubuntu1_hurd-i386.deb
[10:08] <\sh> -rw-r--r--  1 shermann shermann  2154 May 18 08:08 libqssl2_2.0-1ubuntu1_hurd-i386.deb
[10:08] <\sh> how can this happen?
[10:10] <DanielN> lol
[10:10] <\sh> it's not funny ;) I think I'm the only one who is running hurd under breezy ,-)
[10:13] <DanielN> hurd?
[10:13] <DanielN> is that "thing" of software useable? ;)
[10:13] <\sh> DanielN: as you can see yes ;)
[10:14] <DanielN> how stable is it?
[10:14] <\sh> it's building fine with g++4 and likes me
[10:14] <DanielN> :)
[10:14] <DanielN> nice to hear
[10:20] <HostingGeek> DanielN: They still need to port GNU/Hello to it
[10:20] <Treenaks> \sh: at least, for now
[10:20] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: wasn't GNU Hello the base for hurd?
[10:21] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: LOL Have you tried using hurd?
[10:21] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: it was just on slashdot a few weeks ago saying they still haven't ported GNU/Hello
[10:21] <Lathiat> GNU/Hello ?
[10:22] <HostingGeek> lamont: hello --help
[10:22] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: I've stopped blieving slashdot a looong time ago
[10:22] <HostingGeek> in terminal
[10:22] <Lathiat> last time i tried hurd, it kernel panicked if you hit the keyboard on boot. :)
[10:22] <Lathiat> s/on/during
[10:22] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: It was linked to hurd.org
[10:38] <thom> tseng: that's why there's a moz-ffox-dev dummy package, but i bet elmo didn't promote it
[10:40] <elmo> thom: I promoted what was seeded, directly or indirectly
[10:41] <elmo> if I didn't promote moz-ffox-dev, it wasn't, and you need to fix that ..
[10:42] <thom> ah well
[10:42] <thom> yeah, i figured.
[10:42] <thom> I'm not sure it's worth it, tbh - i'd rather see people just change them
[11:13] <\sh> thom: u check the package of ser?
[11:13] <thom> \sh: not yet; firefox vulns again :(
[11:14] <\sh> thom: oh...
[11:16] <Lathiat> bugger
[12:21] <Burgundavia> crap
[12:22] <Burgundavia> thanks
[12:22] <Burgundavia> sorry
[12:34] <tseng> ogra: gtk-apt-whatever-unstable shouldnt get pulled in anymore, yeah
[12:34] <tseng> ogra: replaced by *2-unstable
[12:35] <tseng> so is X totally broken for anyone else?
[12:35] <tsume> breezy rocks ;)
[12:35] <tseng> i had to put exit at the top of init.d/gdm to even get to a console
[12:35] <ogra> tseng, hmm, might be one of my selfcompiled packages, i'm cleaning up
[12:35] <Burgundavia> tseng, I haven't bothered restarted, but I am hearing evidence to that effect
[12:35] <Lathiat> tseng: yeh daniels is breaking it
[12:35] <Burgundavia> from non-forum sources
[12:35] <Lathiat> apparently theres a fix in the pipelines but it hasnt hit the archives yet
[12:35] <tseng> ogra: no its hoary stuff
[12:36] <ogra> tseng, yeah, but probably my own build of it
[12:36] <tseng> ogra: i had the same message
[12:36] <ogra> ah, ok
[12:36] <tseng> im not sure if there is a fix?
[12:36] <tseng> besides dropping one off the mirrors and putting it in notes
[12:37] <ogra> add a conflict to the packages
[12:37] <tseng> k
[12:37] <tseng> can i conflict with one and drop it?
[12:37] <tseng> it was never in debian
[12:37] <ogra> i guess so
[12:38] <tseng> ok.
[12:38] <tseng> isnt there a "replaces"
[12:38] <tseng> or is that rpm
[12:40] <ogra> there is a "replaces" but you might still need the "conflicts" to get it clean
[12:41] <tseng> k.
[12:57] <ogra> tseng, it was worth it ;)
[12:57] <ogra> blam seems to run stable now :)
[12:57] <Treenaks> ogra: debian stable? :P
[12:58] <ogra> Treenaks, stable stable :P
[12:58] <ogra> as in , it didnt crash yet :)
[12:59] <Treenaks> ;)
[12:59] <siretart> hi
[01:00] <siretart> Burgundavia: ping
[01:00] <ogra> meh, but ff is a bad crasher for me....
[01:02] <thom> ogra: yes
[01:02] <thom> for everyone on breezy right now
[01:02] <thom> a debug build is thrashing my system right this second
[01:03] <ogra> most of the sites work fine....
[01:03] <thom> BreezyGoals will crash it every time for me
[01:03] <thom> and clicking livejournal links, oddly enough
[01:04] <ogra> breezy golas works here, but www.heise.de crashes after one or two clicks
[01:04] <ogra> goals even
[01:04] <thom> ogra: sorry, editing BG
[01:04] <ogra> ah, yes
[01:06] <ogra> An investigation of the contents of the external drain of 6 Petworth Street, Cambridge
[01:06] <ogra> LOL
[01:09] <Burgundavia> siretart, salut
[01:09] <thom> weee
[01:09] <thom> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[01:09] <thom> [Switching to Thread 46912546377712 (LWP 21008)] 
[01:09] <thom> 0x00002aaaacc7b285 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6
[01:10] <ogra> hmm, doko's fault ?
[01:10] <Lathiat> woo
[01:10] <thom> there's something weird in there; it's totally smashing the stack
[01:11] <\sh> re
[01:11] <ogra> tseng, generating monodoc search index...
[01:11] <ogra> ** (/usr/lib/monodoc/browser.exe:10639): WARNING **: _wapi_timestamp_exclusion: Breaking a previous timestamp
[01:12] <ogra> thats what i get on monodoc installation
[01:12] <Burgundavia> siretart, pongalong
[01:13] <ivoks> doko: take a better look :)
[01:13] <ivoks> doko: i removed useless debian patch wich creates config.sub in source
[01:14] <ivoks> doko: and then, in rules, it copies that same files from /usr/share/misc/
[01:15] <\sh> re
[01:17] <ivoks> \sh: hi
[01:20] <doko> ivoks?
[01:22] <ivoks> doko: xclass
[01:23] <ogra> woah
[01:24] <ogra> evince gets .ppt support
[01:24] <Treenaks> ogra: yeah, it's becoming VERY cool
[01:24] <ogra> yep
[01:24] <ogra> :)
[01:24] <Lathiat> indeed
[01:24] <Lathiat> much nicer to read pdfs now
[01:24] <Treenaks> Lathiat: and blazingly fast
[01:24] <Lathiat> now all we need is a presentation creator in gnome office... :)
[01:25] <Lathiat> Treenaks: i find it a little slow and re-rendering when i zoom but otherwise its good.
[01:25] <siretart> sorry, boss was in the room
[01:25] <Treenaks> evince should also handle .doc and .xls imho.. at the same speed
[01:25] <Lathiat> at last it stretches and then rerenders
[01:25] <Burgundavia> lol
[01:25] <Burgundavia> siretart, what do you need to talk about?
[01:25] <Treenaks> so I can just VIEW a doc file, instead of having to start OOo or abiword
[01:25] <Lathiat> yeh thatd be nice
[01:25] <Lathiat> altho abiword isnt too taxing to start, but yes
[01:25] <Burgundavia> those would need an edit button
[01:25] <Treenaks> Lathiat: yes, I've noticed that, it only antialiases when you stop resizing
[01:26] <tsume> pyBeagle :) yumm
[01:26] <Lathiat> which is fine just unfortunately its a little slow when it does so
[01:26] <doko> ivoks: why not just remove that one? diff -u xclass-0.8.3/debian/patches/xclass_0.6.2-5.1.diff xclass-0.8.3/debian/patches/xclass_0.6.2-5.1.diff
[01:26] <Treenaks> Lathiat: it's annoying to browse through stuff in abiword without editing the file
[01:26] <tsume> or just beagle written in C++, whichever :)
[01:26] <siretart> Burgundavia: have you seen, I've done some remarks to the games you listed on MOTUGames
[01:27] <Burgundavia> siretart, I just throw them up there. No comment on their underlying code
[01:27] <ivoks> doko: you could do that, or we could fix that deb while we are repackaging...
[01:28] <siretart> Burgundavia: where did you get that list?
[01:28] <Burgundavia> siretart, my head mostly
[01:28] <Burgundavia> siretart, I have run glest on my machine
[01:28] <Burgundavia> there is a very active linux port
[01:28] <doko> ivoks: I don't care about the file in the deb, but let's keep the patch to the needed things
[01:28] <ivoks> ok
[01:28] <ivoks> i'll upload a new one then
[01:29] <siretart> Burgundavia: ah, the website state there was no linux port. ok
[01:29] <Burgundavia> siretart, there are even source packages
[01:29] <ivoks> wftk is fixed
[01:29] <siretart> Burgundavia: huh? have to relook tonight
[01:29] <Burgundavia> siretart, http://apt.linex.org/dists/cl/juegalinex/source/
[01:29] <Burgundavia> siretart, there
[01:30] <siretart> Burgundavia: in what way did gtetrinet. gnome-mud and xconq call for help?
[01:30] <tsume> hmmm...
[01:30] <Lathiat> sigh, people keep putting there packages at the top of the ToReview list
[01:30] <siretart> Burgundavia: a, thanks for the link, will review it
[01:30] <Burgundavia> siretart, the first 2 on p.g.o
[01:30] <Burgundavia> siretart, the latter on happypenguin
[01:31] <siretart> Burgundavia: could you please add some links to the wiki page, so others can follow the call?
[01:31] <Burgundavia> siretart, sure, I will dig around
[01:31] <siretart> allright. thanks!
[01:32] <womble> Lathiat: Just review from the bottom instead... <grin>
[01:32] <Lathiat> the problem is im waiting for a review rathe rthan reviwing. :)
[01:32] <ivoks> doko: uploaded
[01:32] <siretart> back to work.
[01:33] <tsume> hmmm
[01:33] <tsume> should Lucene be written in C first? then library made for C++ and python?
[01:33] <tsume> hmmm
[01:34] <ajmitch> Lathiat: we'll get around to it asap :)
[01:37] <Lathiat> ajmitch: from the bottom, thanks. :)
[01:37] <doko> ogra:
[01:38] <doko> make[3] : Entering directory `/home/doko/src/unicon-3.0.4/unicon/server'
[01:38] <doko> g++ -fPIC -g -Wall -I. -I../include -c TLS_HzInput.cpp -o TLS_HzInput.o
[01:38] <doko> In file included from TLS_HzInput.cpp:32:
[01:38] <doko> ./TLS_AsciiConvertor.hpp:32:22: error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[01:38] <doko> make[3] : *** [TLS_HzInput.o]  Error 1
[01:38] <ogra> uii
[01:38] <ogra> i didnt remove dependencys ;)
[01:38] <ogra> i'll add it :)
[01:38] <doko> while trying to decide, if the package should be renamed at all (it's app?)
[01:38] <doko> ogra: but you didn't test-build ;-P
[01:38] <ogra> not yet...
[01:39] <ogra> i'll start in an hour or so...
[01:39] <ogra> leave them out...
[01:39] <ogra> and lets move unicon to the apps page ;)
[01:39] <ivoks> hm
[01:39] <ivoks> apt-cache search libglu-dev-xorg
[01:40] <ivoks> gives me nothing
[01:40] <ivoks> there is no such package
[01:40] <ivoks> build dep: xlibmesa-glu-dev  -> libglu-dev-xorg (>= 6.8.2-11)
[01:43] <Burgundavia> siretart, sourceforge says zlib/libpng, which I can't find it not being dfsg free
[01:44] <doko> ivoks: it's not yet in the archives
[01:44] <ivoks> doko: ok, it depends on xlibmesa-gl-dev
[01:44] <ivoks> not glu-dev
[01:47] <Burgundavia> siretart, I see now. Very ick and very stupid on there part
[01:47] <ivoks> jesus... thunderstorm over here :(
[02:47] <siretart> Burgundavia: you are talking about cube, are you?
[02:47] <siretart> Burgundavia: I know of tries packaging it for debian, but the licence situation for cube is actually a mess
[02:49] <siretart> Burgundavia: the author works alone and does accept patches. a friend of mine has forked it and improved it with unix specific patches, so e.g. that the config file is in the users home instead of the program dir, which seems to be usual for windows systems
[02:49] <siretart> Burgundavia: atm he is porting it to amd64, and preparing a more serious distribution, being plain dfsg free. I therefore cannot recommend packaging cube
[03:34] <dholbach> re
[03:35] <DanielN> dholbach: how long does it take (average) until a package gets reviewed?
[03:35] <DanielN> wan't stress, just interests me :)
[03:37] <dholbach> DanielN: when i have my thesis finished (in 3 months) i can get give reliable dates and times
[03:37] <dholbach> and i can just speak for me
[03:37] <ogra> DanielN, i'm doing a review day once a week ...
[03:38] <DanielN> ok
[03:38] <DanielN> thanks :)
[03:52] <DanielN> whats a thesis btw? :)
[03:53] <ogra> diplomarbeit
[03:53] <DanielN> ouke .. thanks :>
[03:54] <DanielN> but anyway, i think i'll build my package again and again and again .. :)
[04:00] <thom> ogra,dholbach: are you seeing crashy firefox only on amd64?
[04:00] <ogra> nope
[04:02] <thom> ogra: bugger
[04:03] <thom> well, actually that's not so bad
[04:03] <thom> but i can't crash it on i386
[04:05] <thom> ogra: is there a particular page on heise that crashes for you?
[04:06] <ogra> the first link in the list on the left, sometimes only if i go one link further on the next site
[04:06] <thom> 7 tage news?
[04:07] <ogra> yep
[04:07] <ogra> germanys /.
[04:07] <thom> ah
[04:07] <ogra> hehe
[04:07] <DanielN> switzerlands /. www.symlink.ch
[04:07] <DanielN> :>
[04:08] <ogra> lets see if it crashes...
[04:08] <ogra> then my conclusion would be that the new ff doesnt like news
[04:08] <thom> very interesting article on free pascal
[04:08] <ogra> symlink works here btw...
[04:09] <thom> cor, and it's available on netware
[04:09] <thom> rock on
[04:09] <DanielN> :>
[04:10] <ogra> wahhh
[04:10] <ogra> 1 click crsher...
[04:10] <thom> i can't get it to crash at all :(
[04:10] <thom> ssucks to be me
[04:11] <ogra> hrm
[04:20] <thom> ogra: i'll stick debug packages up for you in a second; i can't get this to crash
[04:21] <ogra> ok, i'll try them
[04:21] <dholbach> thom: especially when you edit wiki pages - firefox doesnt seem to like it :-)
[04:21] <ogra> dholbach, we talk abou i386
[04:21] <ogra> t
[04:22] <dholbach> i know...
[04:22] <dholbach> bbl
[04:23] <thom> well, i just edited BreezyGoals with the debug packages just fine#
[04:23] <thom> and that was crashing all the time with the normal packages
[04:23] <thom> *sigh*
[04:24] <ogra> hmm
[04:24] <ogra> sounds strange...
[04:24] <thom> the article on cuba in heise is interesting#
[04:24] <ogra> yep
[04:24] <thom> i reckon it's bad optimisation, actually. might play around a bit with the options
[04:30] <ivoks> what page?
[04:31] <ogra> ivoks, ?
[04:31] <ivoks> what's crashing?
[04:31] <ogra> http://www.heise.de/ with the new ff build...
[04:32] <ivoks> eh...
[04:33] <ivoks> and mozilla?
[04:33] <thom> just firefox afaik#
[04:39] <ivoks> oh, lol
[04:39] <ivoks> clients are caling, they can't go on internet...
[04:39] <ivoks> i say, wtf.... i can't get to the routers...
[04:40] <ivoks> they can ping it, get IP from DHCP and everything is working, only internet doesn't )
[04:40] <ivoks> one ADSL central was hit by lightning and now one part of town doesn't have ADSL :)
[04:46] <DanielN> LOL
[05:03] <ivoks> uh..
[05:03] <ivoks> i didn't know debootstrap is so good
[05:05] <ivoks> so... anything broken yet?
[05:08] <DanielN> hm sorry
[05:08] <DanielN> i've got a question about the wiki
[05:08] <ivoks> yes?
[05:10] <DanielN> i added a package to MOTUNewPackages, then i wrote my wiki page.. and now im in subtopic of MOTUNewPackages :)
[05:10] <DanielN> and I don't know why
[05:11] <ivoks> erase it
[05:11] <ivoks> same thing happend to me
[05:11] <DanielN> i can't erase it, this part with the link isn't in the edit-form (but i can delete the link from the MOTU page of course)
[05:12] <ivoks> heh...
[05:12] <DanielN> no, that's a subtopic too, can't delet that
[05:20] <ivoks> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... stoopid, stoopid
[05:20] <ivoks> i erased my .bashrc :)
[05:21] <ogra> ivoks, just use your backup ;)
[05:21] <ivoks> yeah, i did :)
[05:21] <ivoks>  /etc/skel :)
[05:21] <ogra> heh
[05:21] <thom> ivoks: see, a perfect opportunity to move to a real shell ;-)
[05:21] <ivoks> i agree
[05:21] <ivoks> i was just thinkg of zsh...
[05:22] <ivoks> what's better? zhs or csh?
[05:22] <ivoks> or.. something else?
[05:22] <Mithrandir> csh is dead.  And harmful.
[05:22] <Mithrandir> zsh is nice.
[05:22] <ivoks> tcsh?
[05:22] <thom> EWW RUN AWAY
[05:22] <ivoks> :))
[05:24] <ivoks>  > and >> needs update
[05:24] <ivoks>  > should inform you that it will erase your file :)
[05:24] <ivoks> god knows how many times in a hury i did that silly mistake...
[05:25] <Mithrandir> set -o noclobber
[05:26] <ivoks> nice one :)
[05:27] <thom> ogra: http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/firefox-debug/ ; grab firefox and firefox-gnome-support and see if you have any joy
[05:28] <ivoks> thom: can i too?
[05:28] <thom> ivoks: are you seeing it crash?
[05:28] <thom> if so, sure. run as mozilla-firefox -g ; if not, i wouldn't bother#
[05:28] <ivoks> i have old 1.0.2
[05:28] <thom> it's built against breezy
[05:28] <ivoks> woho! :) downloading...
[05:29] <thom> it also has full debug on and is unstripped, so don't expect it to be much fun
[05:29] <thom> and, um, why not just download from breezy?
[05:30] <ogra> thom give me a momnet, i'm just upgrading my future buildd from warty....
[05:33] <ivoks> thom: mozilla-firefox is already the newest version.
[05:34] <thom> ivoks: firefox
[05:35] <ivoks> ok, this is something new...
[05:38] <ivoks> does zsh have vi-style binding?
[05:38] <thom> yes
[05:38] <ivoks> great :)
[05:38] <ivoks> apt-get install zsh-doc
[05:43] <ivoks> heise.de works for me without problems
[05:43] <doko> ivoks, ogra: please could you upload the packages I marked with pendingupload?
[05:45] <ivoks> i don't think i can upload?
[05:54] <doko> ivoks: ok, then could you please put the source_changes, dsc and diff.gz files somewhere, so ogra can upload them?
[05:56] <ivoks> ok
[05:56] <ogra_d> yep, give me the url
[05:57] <ivoks> http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/libs
[05:57] <ivoks> but i have to upload them first...
[05:58] <ogra_d> yep
[06:05] <herve> what is going on in breezy-changes? :-)
[06:05] <herve> doko, I tried an upload of mine but it was refused
[06:05] <herve> I tried too early?
[06:06] <doko> wait ...
[06:09] <ivoks> :)
[06:09] <ivoks> hm.. internal server error on bugzilla :)
[06:10] <herve> hi ivoks
[06:10] <herve> I saw on of your transition made it :-)
[06:10] <herve> s/on/one
[06:11] <ivoks> :))
[06:11] <ivoks> there will be more :))
[06:13] <ivoks> ogra: you don't need .orig.tar.gz?
[06:13] <ogra_d> nope, not for this changes
[06:13] <ivoks> ok
[06:14] <ogra> since the roiginal source wasnt changed, thats the advantage of a non-native package ;)
[06:14] <herve> *hint*
[06:15] <herve> is dput right to prevent me from uploading the same source package I already tried?
[06:15] <ogra> yep, it logs the upload
[06:15] <Mithrandir> herve: if you actually want to upload again, remove the .upload file.
[06:15] <Mithrandir> dupload does the same thing, iirc
[06:16] <herve> thanks Mithrandir
[06:16] <herve> I wondered where it logged it
[06:16] <ivoks> ogra: i uploaded two packages... 18 more to go :)
[06:16] <ogra> yep, seeing them rushing in
[06:16] <Mithrandir> herve: of course, if it's already uploaded or a newer version exists in the archive it'll be rejected, but I guess you knew that.
[06:16] <herve> ivoks, uploaded... not in breezy? :-)
[06:16] <ivoks> herve: on my http
[06:17] <herve> Mithrandir, it was rejected because the cxx transition blocked my package
[06:17] <herve> I don't feek like it would be harmful now the uploads are open
[06:18] <ivoks> hm... only one more :(
[06:22] <ivoks> doko: could you check omniorb4, wftk and openscenegraph (this one depends on libgl, not libglu)?
[06:24] <ivoks> doko: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10787 is still unconfirmed
[06:25] <herve> don't push more pressure on doko than necessary :-)
[06:25] <ivoks> :)
[06:25] <ivoks> ok, sorry
[06:25] <ivoks> xclass is unconfirmed too :)
[06:26] <doko> herve: uploads are enabled again
[06:27] <herve> doko, I can safely push the same revision?
[06:27] <herve> I am still talking about the cxx transition
[06:28] <ivoks> oh, how it's going to break :)
[06:29] <herve> let's first break everything
[06:29] <herve> and then glue the parts together ;-)
[06:30] <doko> ivoks: xmpi: the dot at the end of the short description is wrong. lintian should complain about it
[06:31] <ivoks> ok
[06:33] <ivoks> ok now? :)
[06:34] <ivoks> grrr..
[06:34] <ivoks> it isn't
[06:37] <ivoks> now it's ok
[06:50] <herve> packages['herve'] ++
[06:50] <herve> :-)
[07:05] <ivoks> ok, converted to zsh :)
[07:07] <crimsun_> zsh++
[07:08] <ivoks> zshc2
[07:08] <crimsun_> ick
[07:08] <crimsun_> :)
[07:10] <ivoks> depends on libc6 (>= 2.56.78-95,4ubuntu33,2)
[07:11] <ogra> heh
[07:12] <ivoks> b word?
[07:12] <crimsun_> oh geez, not in #ubuntu, too!
[07:13] <ivoks> backports?
[07:13] <crimsun_> yeah
[07:13] <ivoks> lol.. they are backporting from breezy?
[07:13] <crimsun_> or newer
[07:13] <crimsun_> it's crazy
[07:13] <ivoks> heh, oh, how much disapointed faces we will see :)
[07:20] <willis> join #ubuntu
[07:21] <ivoks> ;)
[07:24] <herzi> can so. please veryfy that cantus3 is broken (read: doesn't start)
[07:35] <herzi> hi dholbach
[07:35] <dholbach> hey herzi
[07:44] <blueyed> I've created a patched .deb file of the ssh package (from source) and installed using "dpkg -i". Unfortunately "apt-get upgrade" wants to upgrade to the current/same binary version of openssh-server again. Why?
[08:06] <herzi> [18:31]  herzi@wallace: ~ > cantus3
[08:06] <herzi> cantus3: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/cantus3/tag2filename.so: undefined symbol: _Z19cantushash_set_charP11_GHashTablePKcS2_
[08:06] <herzi> this does not look like a breezy-related bug
[08:26] <Amaranth> oh, the dbus stuff broke beagle too :/
[09:32] <doko> tulip_2.herve: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/t/tulip/2.0.2-4ubuntu1/tulip_2.0.2-4ubuntu1_20050518-2012-amd64-failed.bz2
[09:32] <doko> herve: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/t/tulip/2.0.2-4ubuntu1/tulip_2.0.2-4ubuntu1_20050518-2012-amd64-failed.bz2
[09:32] <lamont> also opencv
[09:32] <lamont> in both cases, casts a pointer to an int.  very bad...