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| tseng | so.. how do I make my X start again | 12:26 |
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| tseng | i have no fixed font | 12:26 |
| tseng | pretty suck | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | morning | 12:34 |
| tseng | hi | 12:34 |
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| doko | ajmitch: you can upload C++ library packages now | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | great, I'll still put patches up on bugzilla, right? | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | looks like there's a few issues with apps needing recompiled | 12:50 |
| tseng | blam is using c++ | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | or they just weren't changed properly :) | 12:50 |
| tseng | not sure what im supposed to do with it | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | doko: unixodbc-bin still depends on libodbcinstq1 | 12:54 |
| doko | ajmitch, hmm, will look | 12:55 |
| tseng | wow the menu editor rocks | 01:13 |
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| Amaranth | tseng: the one in gnome-menus? | 01:23 |
| tseng | yes | 01:23 |
| tseng | its so simple | 01:23 |
| Amaranth | any way to get the new one without logging out? :) | 01:24 |
| tseng | beats me | 01:24 |
| Amaranth | brb then | 01:24 |
| tseng | killall gnome-panel? | 01:24 |
| tseng | heh | 01:24 |
| tseng | ogra: monodevelop worksforme | 01:24 |
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| tseng | ogra: you? | 01:24 |
| ogra | hmm, havent upgraded all the day... | 01:25 |
| Amaranth | hmm, it didn't update | 01:25 |
| ogra | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/monodevelop/ | 01:26 |
| ogra | nope, it didnt build... | 01:26 |
| Amaranth | ha, that's a lot like my new UI :) | 01:26 |
| Amaranth | i guess we worked off the same doodle | 01:26 |
| Amaranth | ogra: http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg0.6.png | 01:29 |
| Amaranth | i like mine better :) | 01:29 |
| tseng | dude its the same thing | 01:32 |
| Amaranth | err, yeah, that was too you | 01:33 |
| tseng | but with andyfitzisms | 01:33 |
| Amaranth | to | 01:33 |
| ogra | meh, why does it build depend on mozilla ? | 01:33 |
| tseng | i fixed that here | 01:33 |
| Amaranth | andyfitzisms? | 01:33 |
| tseng | havent uploaded yet | 01:33 |
| tseng | Amaranth: the icons? | 01:33 |
| tseng | from andyfitz | 01:33 |
| Amaranth | oh, that's the icon theme on my machine | 01:34 |
| Amaranth | it uses whatever theme you use | 01:34 |
| Amaranth | hmm, the one in gnome-menus only allows you to hide/show entries | 01:35 |
| ogra | hmm, it crashes | 01:43 |
| tseng | wow, silly amd64 | 01:44 |
| ogra | hmm, but it knows python syntaxhighlighting :) | 01:46 |
| ogra | tseng, seems it runs stable now... | 01:54 |
| tseng | did you change something? | 01:55 |
| ogra | no crash since i started it the secondtime... i can open and save files etc | 01:55 |
| ogra | nope | 01:55 |
| tseng | ok :( | 01:55 |
| ogra | i suspect ff its pretty bad on amd64 currently | 01:56 |
| ogra | hmm, it cant highlight Makefiles | 01:57 |
| ogra | heh, thats funny, if i open a shellscript it gets opened in gvim | 01:57 |
| ogra | (from the monodevelop filebrowser) | 01:58 |
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| JDahl | I packaged up a python packaged I'm working on, and a "dpkg --info" tells me: "Depends: atlas3-base | lapack3 | liblapack.so.3, atlas3-base | refblas3 | libblas.so.3, libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libumfpack4 (>= 4.3-5), glpk", where all except glpk are found automatically by dpkg-buildpackage. But when I apt-get install the package, only glpk is automatically installed: do I need to explicitly list all those dependencies on t | 05:13 |
| JDahl | he "Depends:" line in the control file? | 05:13 |
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| minghua | Hi, I've got a problem for c++ transition of arpack++ | 05:26 |
| minghua | In configure I get: | 05:26 |
| minghua | checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp | 05:26 |
| minghua | configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check | 05:26 |
| minghua | See `config.log' for more details. | 05:26 |
| minghua | make: *** [build] Error 1 | 05:26 |
| minghua | and /lib/cpp is a symlink to /usr/bin/cpp-4.0 | 05:26 |
| minghua | nothing seems related in config.log, the last lines: | 05:27 |
| minghua | #ifdef __cplusplus | 05:27 |
| minghua | extern "C" void std::exit (int) throw (); using std::exit; | 05:27 |
| minghua | configure: exit 1 | 05:27 |
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| ivoks | anyone here? :) | 09:31 |
| Burgundavia | nope, were all dead | 09:32 |
| ivoks | :) | 09:32 |
| Burgundavia | the european guys are just waking up now | 09:32 |
| ivoks | i have on tiny problem :) | 09:33 |
| ivoks | could you help me? | 09:33 |
| Burgundavia | probably not, but shoot | 09:33 |
| ivoks | when i change changelog with dch -i -Dbreezy | 09:33 |
| ivoks | it puts an email as a signature | 09:33 |
| ivoks | it was working fine, but now it puts ivoks@localhost.localdomain | 09:34 |
| ivoks | would you know how to change that? | 09:34 |
| ivoks | ah.. | 09:36 |
| ivoks | that's enviorment variable | 09:36 |
| Treenaks | ivoks: /etc/mailname? | 09:36 |
| ivoks | or | 09:36 |
| ivoks | export EMAIL='ivoks@grad.hr' | 09:36 |
| ivoks | that should work too | 09:37 |
| ivoks | yes, it works :) | 09:38 |
| ivoks | i replaced bash with zsh, so i lost all my env. variables | 09:39 |
| Burgundavia | you can add DEBEMAIL or something similar, but I forget the exact varible | 09:39 |
| ivoks | DEBEMAIL | 09:39 |
| ivoks | and DEBFULLNAME | 09:40 |
| Burgundavia | ya | 09:40 |
| ivoks | man dch says it all :) | 09:40 |
| ivoks | terminus is really nice font | 09:45 |
| ivoks | ok, see you guys.. | 09:46 |
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| \sh | morning | 10:07 |
| dahane | morning | 10:08 |
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| doko | ivoks, ogra, how are the C++ uploads going, or who cares about them? | 11:02 |
| Treenaks | dholbach ? | 11:02 |
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| ogra_d | doko | 12:50 |
| ogra_d | ping | 12:50 |
| doko | pong | 12:50 |
| ogra_d | you said varconf misses a build depends on libsigc++-1.2-dev... | 12:51 |
| ogra_d | but thats there | 12:51 |
| ajmitch | hi doko, ogra_d | 12:51 |
| ogra_d | hey ajmitch | 12:51 |
| doko | is the build-dep tightened to the first version compiled for the new ABI? | 12:51 |
| ogra_d | doko, btw, the rest of my day is donated to the libs :) | 12:51 |
| ogra_d | ah, ok | 12:52 |
| \sh | re | 12:52 |
| ogra_d | that might be it | 12:52 |
| doko | yes, we need that for the buildd's | 12:52 |
| \sh | bad day for me | 12:52 |
| ogra_d | oki | 12:52 |
| \sh | ogra_d: I had a nice fight this morning at 5:45 with duke ;) | 12:54 |
| ogra_d | heh | 12:54 |
| ogra_d | duke is funny | 12:54 |
| doko | ajmitch: libcommoncpp2, please just drop c102, don't add the c2 | 12:55 |
| \sh | ogra_d: and i had a nice chat with guenther | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | doko: ah, sorry, that was 1st one I did :) | 12:55 |
| doko | ajmitch: and I don't see a bug report for it | 12:55 |
| doko | ajmitch: libccrtp: in the changelog, say what you did change, bug report is missing (I know, your second package ;) | 12:56 |
| === ajmitch will put them up asap.. | ||
| ajmitch | yes, I thought I'd fixed all the changelogs, obviously not :) | 12:57 |
| \sh | hmmm...how do i use debdiff? | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | debdiff package1.dsc package2.dsc | 12:58 |
| \sh | and i was playing with source dirs | 12:59 |
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| \sh | hmmm...can someone check if I made everything allright for the bug report? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10957 | 01:18 |
| ogra | \sh, the lib binary could need a Provides | 01:21 |
| \sh | Provides: libqssl2 should do it, right? | 01:22 |
| ogra | yep | 01:22 |
| ogra | err | 01:22 |
| \sh | or should i use Provides: libqssl so it fits for 1 and 2 | 01:22 |
| ogra | c102 | 01:22 |
| \sh | sure :) | 01:23 |
| \sh | thx | 01:23 |
| ogra | no just let the packaging system know that it finds the old named lib in this package | 01:23 |
| \sh | done | 01:25 |
| \sh | what would be really nice, to have a jabber component for bugzilla and malone ;) reporting bugs via jabber and informing the devs via jabber about new bugs for their packages | 01:25 |
| ogra | its planned... but dont expect it for 1.0 | 01:26 |
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| \sh | I think bugzilla has already a jabber component... | 01:26 |
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| ogra_d | meh, doko | 01:38 |
| ogra_d | ? | 01:38 |
| doko | ogra_d: please no provides for renamed library packages. we WANT to conflict old and new packages | 01:39 |
| ogra_d | libclutils0-dev is not installable.... | 01:39 |
| ogra_d | okay | 01:39 |
| ogra_d | or rather its empty, my pbuilder doenst find it.... | 01:40 |
| ogra_d | but its installed | 01:40 |
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| \sh | shit | 01:44 |
| \sh | i made a mistake | 01:44 |
| ogra_d | \sh, nobody is perfect (seee above ;) ) | 01:44 |
| \sh | ogra_d: but a really nasty one...i forgot the libfile ;) | 01:46 |
| \sh | doko: ah..so i will remove also my provides line ;) | 01:46 |
| \sh | doko: but Replaces: is fine? | 01:46 |
| doko | which package? | 01:46 |
| \sh | libqssl | 01:47 |
| \sh | libqssl2c102 | 01:47 |
| doko | source package? | 01:47 |
| \sh | qssl | 01:47 |
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| ogra_d | checking for isClutils in -lclutils... no | 01:47 |
| doko | \sh, where's the bug report? | 01:47 |
| \sh | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10957 | 01:47 |
| \sh | doko: but w8 a moment :) i'll update the debdiff | 01:48 |
| \sh | ok..u can check now | 01:49 |
| doko | missing conflict to the old lib | 01:52 |
| \sh | see...;) | 01:52 |
| \sh | new debdiff attached | 01:54 |
| doko | tighten the build-dep on libqt3-mt-dev | 01:54 |
| doko | (and mark the attachment as patches) | 01:55 |
| \sh | doko: what do u mean with "tighten"? is libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3.1.1-1) not right? | 01:56 |
| \sh | doko: k | 01:56 |
| doko | look at the library list, all deps on C++ libs have to be tightened to the first version with the new ABI | 01:57 |
| \sh | u mean: if 3.3.3-7 is the first new ABI version I should change build-deps to libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3.3.3-7) | 01:59 |
| \sh | or 3.3.3-7ubuntu5 | 01:59 |
| doko | yes, the latter | 02:00 |
| ogra | doko, any idea about libclutils ? | 02:00 |
| \sh | k...thx | 02:00 |
| doko | that's why we keep the version information in the table | 02:00 |
| doko | ogra: the one in the archive? | 02:01 |
| ogra | it gets installed in the pbuilder.... but the configure doesnt find it... | 02:01 |
| ogra | if i log in and install it manually, all files are where they belong | 02:01 |
| doko | 20031216-5 ? | 02:02 |
| ogra | yep | 02:02 |
| ogra_d | configure: error: Could not find a workable libclutils.so or libclutils.a. | 02:02 |
| ogra_d | You probably need to install clutils and/or specify the location of | 02:02 |
| ogra_d | it with the --with-clutils option. | 02:02 |
| ogra | both are there | 02:03 |
| \sh | ok..done | 02:04 |
| doko | ogra: no information in config.log? | 02:05 |
| === ajmitch is off to sleep now | ||
| ogra | hmm, how do i get the config.log from a pbuilder that failed ? | 02:07 |
| === ogra builds aain, without pbuilder | ||
| ogra | again even | 02:07 |
| \sh | ogra: there is a switch to force not to delete the temp files after build | 02:08 |
| === ogra looks at the pbuilder docs | ||
| \sh | --preserve-buildplace | 02:11 |
| doko | ogra: hmm, YES, exactly that option | 02:11 |
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| \sh | no... | 02:12 |
| \sh | or? | 02:12 |
| ogra | hmm, but anyway, it builds fine outside the pbuilder | 02:12 |
| \sh | This is useful if you want to attempt to build a large number of packages successively, but you expect that many of them cannot have their build | 02:12 |
| \sh | dependencies satisfied. | 02:12 |
| \sh | It will clean up the build place on failure, or after a successful build. | 02:12 |
| \sh | ok second cxx qt package finished | 02:14 |
| \sh | ogra: hmmm..one apt-get miss update in the pbuilder chroot? | 02:16 |
| ogra_d | i don an update before every build | 02:16 |
| ogra_d | -n | 02:17 |
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| \sh | ogra_d: hmmm...additional source in your chroot and not in pbuilder? dokos repos eventually? :) | 02:26 |
| \sh | anyways...started this day at 5:30am now it's time to go home | 02:26 |
| ogra | \sh, i dont use a chroot, just a plain pbuilder with main and universe sources | 02:27 |
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| \sh | ogra: hmmm...confusing just like ogra and ogra_d ;-9 | 02:27 |
| \sh | bbl gents...going home | 02:28 |
| doko | \sh, bye | 02:30 |
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| \sh | at least at home | 03:13 |
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| ogra_d | doko, can i leave tyvis for you ? i have no idea what to do here and --preserve-buildplace doeosnt help at all, since it removes the tree on error or breakage... locally it builds fine | 04:31 |
| doko | ogra_d: ok | 04:33 |
| ogra_d | doko, thanks :) | 04:35 |
| ogra_d | doko, whats the exchange rate for this 2:1, or higher ? ;) | 04:36 |
| ogra_d | meh, libsigcx-gtk-0.6-dev is boken.... | 04:38 |
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| HiddenWolf | guys, is any of you aware of some utility that allows you to snap programs to a grid? | 04:44 |
| Lathiat | HiddenWolf: if you hold shift while moving it snaps to other edges | 04:46 |
| HiddenWolf | Lathiat, I just got myself a 1920x1200 monitor, and I'm looking for a way to keep my programs where I want them. | 04:47 |
| HiddenWolf | shift might just do the trick. :) | 04:48 |
| HiddenWolf | It'd be neat if you could 'partition' your desktop, and lock a program to a partition, tho. | 04:49 |
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| Shufla | hi. is there guideline for importing sid packages to hoary/breezy? [package is made for sid, but it is not avaiable in debian] | 04:52 |
| ogra | recompile it in breezy | 04:52 |
| Shufla | ogra: ah. but there are some tweaks needed in debian/ dir. ok. i'll go thru debian packagers documentation, thanks. | 04:53 |
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| herve | motu meeting? | 04:57 |
| ogra | oops | 04:59 |
| ogra | youre right | 04:59 |
| ogra | in 1h | 05:00 |
| herve | we're gmt+2... *headache* | 05:00 |
| Lathiat | HiddenWolf: apt-get install devilspie | 05:02 |
| HiddenWolf | Lathiat, you rule | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | :) | 05:13 |
| HiddenWolf | ugh. I'll need to google for that | 05:14 |
| HiddenWolf | It's pretty much useless at default. :P | 05:14 |
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| dholbach | hellas! | 05:35 |
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| herve | heya dholbach! | 05:43 |
| dholbach | hey herve! | 05:43 |
| dholbach | hey bradb :-) | 05:52 |
| dholbach | bradb: who would i have to bother for "add a mail adress to a team"? | 05:52 |
| dholbach | could everybody have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting and add their favorite topic to it? | 05:54 |
| herve | that's how I saw there is a meeting coming :-) | 05:55 |
| dholbach | :-))) | 05:56 |
| herve | thanks for the reminder! | 05:56 |
| dholbach | de rien :-) | 05:56 |
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| bradb | dholbach: hi | 05:56 |
| dholbach | hey bradb, how are you? | 05:57 |
| bradb | good thanks, you? :) | 05:57 |
| dholbach | i'm alright, thanks :-) | 05:57 |
| dholbach | bradb: who would i have to bother for "add a mail adress to a team"? :-) | 05:58 |
| dholbach | who takes care of the "people" section | 05:58 |
| bradb | dholbach: salgado's the man | 05:58 |
| dholbach | ahh, ok | 05:59 |
| dholbach | i'll bother him next :-) | 05:59 |
| bradb | hang on | 05:59 |
| bradb | perhaps i'll summon him onto the channel | 05:59 |
| dholbach | erm, we have motu meeting next | 05:59 |
| ogra | dholbach, i dont think we need a team mailadress | 05:59 |
| dholbach | yes we do | 05:59 |
| ogra | rather mail all the team members, the adresses are in the stack | 06:00 |
| dholbach | i want to have bugs go to desktop-bugs@ for example | 06:00 |
| ogra | its nonsense to have a extra mailing list you have to maintain | 06:00 |
| dholbach | you don't have to maintain it | 06:00 |
| ogra | someone has | 06:00 |
| dholbach | and jdub, seb128 and i just arranged one for desktop-bugs@ | 06:00 |
| ogra | hmm... | 06:00 |
| ogra | k | 06:00 |
| dholbach | ok... i think we have a meeting now | 06:01 |
| ogra | yep | 06:01 |
| dholbach | #ubuntu-meeting | 06:01 |
| ogra | guys, join #ubuntu-meeting | 06:02 |
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| salgado | hi there! | 06:03 |
| herve | hi | 06:03 |
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| bradb | doh, you guys just started a meeting didn't you :P | 06:04 |
| ogra | yep | 06:04 |
| bradb | dholbach, ogra, salgado: if you can't discuss your questions right now about setting up your team, perhaps you could note a time a bit later when you can help to get things sorted for MOTU team config? | 06:04 |
| salgado | I'm going for lunch now. will be back in 1h or so | 06:05 |
| ogra | salgado, in an hour ? | 06:05 |
| ogra | heh | 06:05 |
| ogra | great | 06:05 |
| salgado | ogra, perfect | 06:05 |
| tseng|work | hey salgado | 06:06 |
| tseng|work | oh. | 06:06 |
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| dholbach | salgado-lunch: we we're just wondering, if we could have a mail-adress for teams - so the bugs assigned to a team could go to a mailing list or something | 06:42 |
| ogra | dholbach, we'll meet in 30min | 06:44 |
| dholbach | ogra, salgado-lunch: ok | 06:44 |
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| ivoks | ola :) | 07:05 |
| dholbach | we're still in #ubuntu-meeting :-) | 07:05 |
| herve | hi ivoks | 07:06 |
| dholbach | hi ivoks :) | 07:06 |
| herve | me first :-p | 07:07 |
| ogra | salgado, we hurried :) | 07:16 |
| \sh | hah back to normal work ;) | 07:17 |
| \sh | lemme check for cxx stuff | 07:17 |
| ivoks | hi all | 07:17 |
| ivoks | :) | 07:17 |
| salgado | ogra, so, the problem is just adding an email address to teams? | 07:17 |
| ivoks | oh, what fun i have, salvage files from dead disk :) | 07:18 |
| ivoks | ogra: here? ready for some uploading? | 07:18 |
| dholbach | salgado: and adding teams more easily | 07:18 |
| dholbach | salgado: i just wondered if somebody was working on it - bradb seems to have just dragged you in here :-) | 07:18 |
| salgado | dholbach, by more easily you mean, having a link to it? | 07:19 |
| dholbach | yes | 07:19 |
| ogra | salgado, thats dholbachs problem... i would be happy if a bug sent a mail to all team members ;) | 07:19 |
| dholbach | or to a mailing list for the team :-) | 07:19 |
| ogra | (as long as its assigned to the team) | 07:19 |
| dholbach | yes | 07:19 |
| salgado | so, let's start from the beginning | 07:19 |
| salgado | the problem of team creation: | 07:19 |
| salgado | we used to have a link on you "actions" portlet, in foaf, to create new teams | 07:20 |
| salgado | but that doesn't make sense to most of the users, so we removed it | 07:20 |
| salgado | most of the users will never create a new team | 07:20 |
| dholbach | ok, i can see your point there | 07:20 |
| salgado | ideally, a team would be created when you want to reassign a product/package | 07:20 |
| dholbach | i should just describe the procedure on the wiki | 07:21 |
| salgado | (we don't have reassignment working yet, but when we do, it'll be possible to create new teams when reassigning anything) | 07:22 |
| ogra | salgado, but that doesnt give us mails... | 07:22 |
| salgado | now, about the emails | 07:22 |
| dholbach | emails! :-) | 07:22 |
| salgado | there's a spec on that. I'm working on it right now and you can already add a contact email to a team | 07:22 |
| dholbach | oh... i tried it some minutes ago | 07:22 |
| dholbach | let me have a look again | 07:23 |
| salgado | when this spec is completely implemented, we'll follow these rules when mailing teams: | 07:23 |
| salgado | dholbach, is not yet in production | 07:23 |
| dholbach | ahhhh ok | 07:23 |
| dholbach | but good to know, thanks for that, salgado :-) | 07:23 |
| salgado | 1. if a team has a contact email address, all emails directed to that team will go to that email | 07:23 |
| salgado | 2. if there's no contact email address, we mail all members of that team | 07:23 |
| ogra | yay | 07:24 |
| salgado | do you guys think this is reasonable? | 07:24 |
| ogra | yep, absoultely perfect | 07:24 |
| salgado | great. | 07:24 |
| dholbach | salgado: if you tell the user what's going on, it's absolutely perfect and just what we need | 07:24 |
| dholbach | s/user/team leader/ | 07:24 |
| ogra | salgado, could we have | 07:24 |
| dholbach | rocking | 07:24 |
| salgado | dholbach, yeas, this will be clear when you create a team | 07:24 |
| ogra | 3. both | 07:24 |
| ogra | (on demand indeed) | 07:25 |
| salgado | ogra, you mean, mailing the contact email and all members? | 07:25 |
| ogra | yep | 07:25 |
| salgado | do you have a use case for that? | 07:25 |
| ogra | i.e. i have a team where not all members are subscribed to the ML dholbach wants to send his bugreports to, the this would be a fine addon | 07:26 |
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| ogra | (its not really necessary though...) | 07:27 |
| salgado | ogra, ok, I'll add this to the spec (as an unresolved issue for now), and I'll keep you informed about what we decided on that | 07:27 |
| salgado | ok? | 07:27 |
| dholbach | cool | 07:27 |
| ogra | yep... put it on low priority... 1. and 2. are just fine | 07:27 |
| dholbach | thanks salgado | 07:27 |
| salgado | I'd say that's easier to request that user to subscribe to the mailing list. but maybe I'm wrong | 07:28 |
| ogra | yeah, thanks for your time salgado :) | 07:28 |
| salgado | dholbach, ogra. no problem. | 07:28 |
| salgado | http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20010805.html | 07:28 |
| salgado | I just saw that page and asked myself: "wtf am I doing here?" :P | 07:28 |
| ogra | salgado, i'd prefer the variant without ML at all (2.) :) | 07:28 |
| dholbach | :-) | 07:28 |
| ogra | lol | 07:29 |
| ogra | thats a good page... | 07:29 |
| salgado | yeah. the first header is the best advice one can give. :) | 07:30 |
| ogra | salgado, so you should travel more to look over some sholders ;) | 07:30 |
| dholbach | salgado: yeah, be sure to ping me, when you hit germany :-) | 07:30 |
| tseng|work | hi' | 07:31 |
| salgado | cool. I'll do that for sure. the same for you guys when in Brazil | 07:31 |
| ogra | yay | 07:31 |
| siretart | hi | 07:31 |
| ogra | hey siretart | 07:31 |
| ogra | you missed the motu meeting :) | 07:32 |
| dholbach | woohoo! | 07:32 |
| siretart | say, I fixed a package, and needed your advice. The bug was in an aclocal makro file. Therefore I had to rerun aclocal, automake and autoconf | 07:32 |
| siretart | this bloated my *.diff.gz. is this ok? | 07:32 |
| tseng|work | yes | 07:33 |
| siretart | it the tpb package, the dependency of libxosd was removed because of that breakage | 07:33 |
| siretart | ok | 07:33 |
| dholbach | siretart: yes, absolutely until there's an upstream fix | 07:33 |
| ogra | hmm, what about running the autotools at build time triggered by a patch ? | 07:33 |
| siretart | ok, then I'll upload the package for review | 07:34 |
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| ogra | hey chiefofthejojos | 07:34 |
| siretart | ogra: whats the advantage of that? in my experience, this aclocal/automake stuff is quite fragile when changing versions | 07:34 |
| chiefofthejojos | hi | 07:34 |
| ogra | chiefofthejojos nice to see you here :)( | 07:37 |
| dholbach | hey chiefofthejojos | 07:37 |
| ogra | siretart, you sounded worried of the size ;) | 07:37 |
| \sh | ogra: run autotools inside a dpatch-edit-patch ;) | 07:37 |
| siretart | ogra: hehe. but FTBFS make my worrying even more ;) | 07:37 |
| \sh | thats what i did with mysql-query-browser and it was proposed by dholbach? | 07:37 |
| \sh | or herve? | 07:38 |
| \sh | i don't know anymore ;) | 07:38 |
| chiefofthejojos | you guys make it sound so easy. When I was reading on the website how to become a MOTU it seemed difficult to do | 07:38 |
| chiefofthejojos | thanks :) | 07:38 |
| dholbach | ogra: that's a no-go, i got flamed for the idea at least 3 times now ;-) | 07:38 |
| dholbach | ogra: ask on #ubuntu-devel and let me watch ;-))) | 07:38 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: did you hear of the MOTU crew before? | 07:38 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: difficult? | 07:38 |
| chiefofthejojos | before what? | 07:38 |
| dholbach | the formal process sounds difficult because it has several steps of several things to "tick off" on the list | 07:38 |
| chiefofthejojos | yeah, that's what I mean | 07:38 |
| chiefofthejojos | but it sounds so easy when you guys told me to go to bugzilla.ubuntu.com and fix bugs | 07:38 |
| dholbach | it's easy :-) | 07:38 |
| chiefofthejojos | :D | 07:38 |
| dholbach | it all comes with time | 07:38 |
| dholbach | if you really like to start fixing stuff or learn packaging - that's all you need first | 07:38 |
| dholbach | the wish and ... patience maybe :-) | 07:39 |
| ivoks | there goes ogra :( | 07:39 |
| chiefofthejojos | hehe, I'm sure | 07:39 |
| ivoks | and I just wanted to talk to him :(( | 07:39 |
| dholbach | ivoks: he'll be back :-) | 07:39 |
| ivoks | ;....( | 07:39 |
| ivoks | :)) | 07:39 |
| ogra_d | hmm | 07:39 |
| chiefofthejojos | I definitely have a wish, thanks for taking the time to explain to me dholbach | 07:39 |
| ogra_d | strange | 07:39 |
| ivoks | ogra_d: :) | 07:39 |
| chiefofthejojos | :-D | 07:39 |
| ogra_d | my laptop is disconnected... | 07:40 |
| \sh | hmm btw | 07:40 |
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| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: this is the place to be :-) | 07:40 |
| dholbach | ogra_d: netsplit | 07:40 |
| \sh | what happens when I edit a wiki page right now, leave it open in edit mode, and somebody else is editing? will the wiki merge the changes? | 07:41 |
| ogra_d | lol, i just see it in the laptop | 07:41 |
| ivoks | ogra_d: doko approoved two more sources, so, they need upload | 07:41 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: the channel i mean - if you read MOTUTodo on the wiki page you'll see there's a lot of action going on | 07:41 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: apart from the bugs, UniverseCxxTransition is a big target | 07:41 |
| ogra_d | ivoks, yay | 07:41 |
| chiefofthejojos | yeah, I started reading about that but I didn't really understand | 07:41 |
| ivoks | ogra_d: there is a chance that 2-3 more will be on my web in couple of hours :) if, doko accepts new patches :) | 07:41 |
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| chiefofthejojos | it sounded like converting code from C to C++? is that right? | 07:41 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: no :-) | 07:41 |
| ogra_d | ivoks, greta, i'll be around | 07:41 |
| chiefofthejojos | oh :-[ | 07:41 |
| ivoks | ogra_d: okie dokie | 07:42 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: we'll introduce a new version of a c++ compiler | 07:42 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: which will break stuff | 07:42 |
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| chiefofthejojos | so, what's so different about the compiler that requires this big transition project? | 07:42 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: the ABI to be exact - does that mean anything to you? | 07:42 |
| chiefofthejojos | sorry, don't know the acronym | 07:42 |
| DanielN | hi all | 07:42 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: it means that binaries linked against libraries that start using g++-4.0 will stop working | 07:43 |
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| \sh | chiefofthejojos: with gcc4/g++4 the old libs and apps using those libs will become incompatible...just like in the old days between libc5 and glibc | 07:43 |
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| siretart | if anyone has time to review my autofoo mess, here is the url: http://siretart.tauware.de/ubuntu-packages/tpb/ | 07:43 |
| \sh | nice..breaking layout on cxx ;) | 07:44 |
| siretart | I know that libcxxtransistion has priority, but I needed the xosd support for my thinkpad ;) | 07:44 |
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| dholbach | DanielN: do you need the op now | 07:44 |
| dholbach | ? | 07:44 |
| ozamosi | about the transition... Will the kernel really not be recompiled..? | 07:44 |
| DanielN | dholbach: don't understand ? | 07:45 |
| dholbach | ozamosi: i think they keep using gcc-3.4 | 07:45 |
| ozamosi | Why..? | 07:45 |
| chiefofthejojos | so, we're just attempting to compile stuff with the new compiler, and then fixing the errors that are received? | 07:45 |
| dholbach | DanielN: do you need the op now? | 07:45 |
| dholbach | ozamosi: because it requires large fixing, i suppose | 07:45 |
| DanielN | no, i think i don't need op here at all | 07:45 |
| dholbach | DanielN: ok, could you de-op yourself please? | 07:45 |
| ivoks | :) | 07:45 |
| ivoks | please, deprivlige your self :) | 07:46 |
| DanielN | of course! but i don't know .. is this a "misconfigurement" ? | 07:46 |
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| dholbach | no it isnt | 07:46 |
| herve | re | 07:46 |
| dholbach | we just don't need ops in here | 07:46 |
| dholbach | re herve | 07:46 |
| dholbach | most of the times not | 07:46 |
| \sh | dholbach: nono..he opped himself via chanserve ;) | 07:46 |
| DanielN | yep | 07:47 |
| dholbach | we feel confident in people in here | 07:47 |
| herve | we're grown ups :-) | 07:47 |
| dholbach | i know | 07:47 |
| siretart | hehe | 07:47 |
| dholbach | herve++ | 07:47 |
| herve | (growns up?) | 07:47 |
| ivoks | herve: | 07:47 |
| \sh | i never needed OP privs for about 8 years now | 07:47 |
| ivoks | \sh: OPs are for kids.. | 07:47 |
| ivoks | :) | 07:47 |
| \sh | ignore is most of the time usefull | 07:47 |
| ivoks | can I get one? :) | 07:47 |
| DanielN | thanks ivoks ;> | 07:47 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: that's the first part of the story | 07:48 |
| herve | ivoks? | 07:48 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: second part is, that we need a hell lot of renaming action going on | 07:48 |
| ivoks | herve: yes, herve? | 07:48 |
| herve | <ivoks> herve: | 07:48 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: to enable us to build-depend on proper versions and make the change consequently | 07:48 |
| herve | :-) | 07:48 |
| herve | communication clash :-) | 07:48 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: it's all written up on BreezyToolchainTodo or something | 07:48 |
| dholbach | (linked on UniverseCxxTransition) | 07:48 |
| ivoks | herve: oh, just saying 'alo :) | 07:48 |
| herve | anyone with breezy and broken keys in xchat? | 07:49 |
| chiefofthejojos | that's tough | 07:49 |
| chiefofthejojos | that's a lot of work | 07:49 |
| chiefofthejojos | I think I'll start with bugs | 07:49 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: it is | 07:49 |
| ogra_d | chiefofthejojos, but easy work... | 07:49 |
| chiefofthejojos | oh, really? | 07:49 |
| dholbach | herve: broken keys everywhere | 07:49 |
| chiefofthejojos | in that case, I might check it out | 07:49 |
| ogra_d | you have to follow a checklist... | 07:49 |
| dholbach | herve: ctrl-<something> especially | 07:49 |
| herve | okay, I'll even stop picking in breezy update | 07:49 |
| herve | s | 07:49 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: just look at the patches in bugzilla for the cxx transition crack | 07:50 |
| herve | dholbach, yeah, I was suprised with gnome-terminal disappearing at ctrl+shift+t :)- | 07:50 |
| ogra_d | chiefofthejojos, but before you should make yourself a bit familiar with the basics of packaging | 07:50 |
| dholbach | hahaha :-) | 07:50 |
| dholbach | exactly | 07:50 |
| dholbach | that sucks... badly | 07:50 |
| chiefofthejojos | ogra_d: ok, thanks for the tip | 07:50 |
| herve | I was even more suprised with the black screen of this morning... | 07:51 |
| ogra_d | hwo uses such long key combis ? ctrl+shift+t tsk | 07:51 |
| dholbach | i use it | 07:51 |
| dholbach | it makes gnome-terminal rock | 07:51 |
| dholbach | but ogra doesnt use tabs ;-) | 07:51 |
| ivoks | lol | 07:51 |
| ogra_d | yeah | 07:51 |
| ivoks | aterm is the only term :) | 07:51 |
| siretart | ogra_d: emacs users ;) | 07:51 |
| ogra_d | tabs suck... you cant fill your screen with them | 07:51 |
| ivoks | :) | 07:52 |
| herve | ho no, not a terminal troll! :-) | 07:52 |
| ogra_d | hehe | 07:52 |
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| \sh | cat|awk|sed ;) | 07:52 |
| ogra_d | ed | 07:53 |
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| siretart | lol | 07:53 |
| dholbach | hahaha :-)) | 07:53 |
| dholbach | herve ROCKS | 07:53 |
| dholbach | i always said it | 07:53 |
| siretart | absolutly ;) | 07:53 |
| \sh | herve: i hope not the dark side ;) | 07:53 |
| ogra_d | heh | 07:53 |
| herve | not always | 07:53 |
| herve | you didn't know me before :-) | 07:54 |
| \sh | using the force to shift bits from 1 to 0 is dark ;) | 07:54 |
| ivoks | :) | 07:54 |
| herve | \sh dark side of the spoon :)- | 07:54 |
| ogra_d | \sh, sometimes he's 0 sometimes he's 1 | 07:54 |
| ivoks | he has torch, and he really burns he's CDs :) | 07:54 |
| ivoks | he's? lol | 07:54 |
| ivoks | his... | 07:54 |
| \sh | ogra_d: sure there r only 10 people who understand binary notation ;) | 07:55 |
| ogra | heh | 07:55 |
| siretart | there is no spoon | 07:55 |
| \sh | RELOAD ! | 07:55 |
| \sh | ;=) | 07:55 |
| ogra | siretart, just because you dont see it, it must not mean it isnt there | 07:55 |
| \sh | ok..now for business after we discussed all fav. movies ;) | 07:55 |
| \sh | has anybody the "doko kdelibs4c2" on his breezy? | 07:56 |
| \sh | i think i have a problem in my breezy cage | 07:56 |
| dholbach | ivoks: could you kindly ask elmo to whitelist your email adress? | 07:57 |
| ivoks | am I the only one that has breezy and another breezy in cage? | 07:57 |
| dholbach | ivoks: you'll get receipt mail and your name will appear on *-changes@ | 07:57 |
| ivoks | ok | 07:57 |
| dholbach | ROCK | 07:57 |
| ivoks | who is elmo? :) | 07:58 |
| herve | so you can show to your mother ;-) | 07:58 |
| ivoks | herve: i have g/f :) | 07:58 |
| chiefofthejojos | dholbach and ogre_d: thanks for all the help and tips, I'll see you later. I have to get to work. :) | 07:58 |
| ivoks | ok, that was a lie :)) | 07:58 |
| herve | mother, gf, whoever! | 07:58 |
| ogra_d | chiefofthejojos, just drop by here any time you like ;) | 07:59 |
| dholbach | ivoks: elmo is "James Troup", he hardcore-absolutely rocks and is ftpmaster | 07:59 |
| ivoks | dholbach: can i ask him over irc or special, official, email is needed? | 07:59 |
| dholbach | chiefofthejojos: cool, have a nice day! :-) | 07:59 |
| ivoks | dholbach: i know, I have used /wii :) | 07:59 |
| dholbach | ivoks: try to irc him | 07:59 |
| chiefofthejojos | ogre_d: I willl, everyday at work ;) | 07:59 |
| ogra_d | :) | 07:59 |
| ivoks | dholbach: ok, but you have to tell me why do I need my email whitelisted? | 07:59 |
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| dholbach | ivoks: you'll get receipt mail and your name will appear on *-changes@ | 08:00 |
| herve | ok, I have a ftbfs to fix... | 08:00 |
| ogra_d | ivoks, to not confuse us | 08:00 |
| dholbach | (for every upload) | 08:00 |
| ivoks | :) | 08:00 |
| \sh | hmmm | 08:00 |
| \sh | ok..anyone can give me a hint when all the packages are going into the buildd (cxxtrans)? | 08:01 |
| herve | put in the build queue every 5 minutes? | 08:01 |
| dholbach | \sh: they got uploaded | 08:01 |
| \sh | dholbach: cause i'm missing one important packages for me right now ;) | 08:02 |
| herve | sure, dput magic | 08:02 |
| \sh | it's a mess with all this kde stuff | 08:02 |
| ogra_d | \sh, thats because i didnt come around to upload it yet | 08:02 |
| \sh | ogra: doko can upload as well, right? | 08:02 |
| ivoks | hm.. | 08:02 |
| ivoks | why is s near w? | 08:02 |
| \sh | ogra: and it's kdelibs4c2 ;) | 08:02 |
| ivoks | so, then you can type in, instead of whitelist, shitlist | 08:03 |
| ogra_d | \sh, ah, ok... but doko has to solve the thpethial probs for us ;) | 08:03 |
| \sh | ogra: the what? ,-) | 08:03 |
| ogra_d | special | 08:03 |
| ogra_d | lisp is not your strength ? ;) | 08:04 |
| dholbach | <-- cooking | 08:04 |
| \sh | ogra: well..not at all..i missed my lambda session ;) | 08:04 |
| ogra_d | heh | 08:04 |
| \sh | ok...then i have to patch by myself | 08:05 |
| ivoks | terminus fonts rock... | 08:05 |
| \sh | no problem...it's just because i want to get rid of this list and go on with the real stuff | 08:05 |
| ogra_d | \sh, there are also riddell and amu | 08:06 |
| herve | ivoks, you make think I wanted to test them | 08:06 |
| \sh | ogra: kdelibs is main | 08:06 |
| ivoks | herve: test them... best fonts for x/a/gnome/term | 08:06 |
| ivoks | so smooth, so nice... perfect | 08:07 |
| ivoks | i would give nobel to one that created them | 08:07 |
| herve | I should see "terminus" in the font list? | 08:07 |
| ogra_d | herve, its a special package | 08:08 |
| herve | sure | 08:08 |
| ivoks | xfonts-terminus - Fixed-width fonts for fast reading | 08:08 |
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| herve | I installed it for a year | 08:08 |
| ivoks | ogra_d: ? | 08:08 |
| herve | but never played with it | 08:08 |
| ogra_d | i uploaded it before tqsllib | 08:08 |
| ivoks | ogra_d: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/libs | 08:08 |
| ivoks | ogra_d: ok :) | 08:08 |
| ivoks | herve: do this: | 08:09 |
| ivoks | herve: in .Xresources add this line: | 08:09 |
| ivoks | herve: Aterm*font: -xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-*-iso8859-1 | 08:09 |
| ivoks | herve: and run aterm | 08:09 |
| herve | I don't use aterm | 08:09 |
| herve | no I won't :-p | 08:09 |
| ivoks | herve: then put Xterm | 08:09 |
| ogra_d | uhhh, Xfonts | 08:09 |
| herve | neither | 08:09 |
| ivoks | then i don't care! work with you ugly fixed :) | 08:10 |
| herve | but what the hell is the name of the font in gtk list! | 08:10 |
| ivoks | terminus | 08:10 |
| herve | I never found it | 08:10 |
| ivoks | xfontsel | 08:10 |
| ivoks | run xfontsel | 08:11 |
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| ivoks | fmly - terminus | 08:11 |
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| herve | sure | 08:11 |
| herve | but I'm talking about gtk | 08:11 |
| ivoks | these are fixed with fonts | 08:12 |
| ivoks | only for terminals | 08:12 |
| === herve cries | ||
| herve | gnome-terminal is not a terminal? :)- | 08:12 |
| ivoks | herve: did you install xfonts-terminus.*? | 08:13 |
| ivoks | herve: nope, it isn't | 08:13 |
| ivoks | herve: start mc and then try to quit mc in gnome-terminal :)) | 08:13 |
| herve | I do it everyday! | 08:13 |
| ivoks | with mouse :) | 08:13 |
| herve | nope | 08:14 |
| herve | F10 | 08:14 |
| ivoks | ah... | 08:14 |
| ivoks | f10 works? | 08:14 |
| herve | but I configure the tools I use :-p | 08:14 |
| ivoks | lie to someone else :) | 08:14 |
| herve | 1/ | 08:14 |
| \sh | esc-0 is the same as f10 in the console ;) | 08:14 |
| herve | I don't use the menu so I'm ok | 08:14 |
| ivoks | \sh: i know, but anyway... | 08:14 |
| ivoks | f10 is f10 :) | 08:14 |
| herve | 2/ go in the profile and deactivate gnome-terminal to react to function keys | 08:15 |
| herve | (or something like that) | 08:15 |
| ivoks | we are having large discussion how gtk and qt break unix legacy | 08:15 |
| ivoks | on hr.comp.os.linux | 08:15 |
| herve | unix legacy is also to be break | 08:15 |
| herve | but let's not feed the troll! | 08:15 |
| ivoks | they are copying windows shortcuts | 08:15 |
| ivoks | and ignore old, unix style | 08:16 |
| herve | which windows copyied from apple in turn... | 08:16 |
| ivoks | so u have ctrl+c (and we all now what this is one is really for) | 08:16 |
| \sh | and apple from xerox | 08:16 |
| ivoks | there are ctrl+q, ctrl+s, etc... | 08:16 |
| herve | \sh, yes! | 08:16 |
| \sh | ivoks: ctrl-c never was "stop app" in SAA/CUA Specs of IBM | 08:16 |
| ivoks | :) | 08:17 |
| ivoks | \sh: ctrl+c is kill | 08:17 |
| ivoks | not stop :) | 08:17 |
| \sh | alt-q was quit programm | 08:17 |
| ivoks | ctrl+s is stop | 08:17 |
| \sh | ivoks: sorry, yes kill ;) | 08:17 |
| ivoks | i said kill :) | 08:17 |
| \sh | ctrl+s and ctrl+q are terminal xon/xoff sequences | 08:18 |
| herve | \sh, lucky you have a alt key on your vt100 ;-) | 08:18 |
| \sh | herve: well...i have to check my old unisys vt100 term ;) | 08:19 |
| herve | okay, I don't know who decided to move font from /usr/lib to /usr/share | 08:19 |
| herve | but terminus didn't follow the transition | 08:19 |
| \sh | who is terminus? | 08:20 |
| herve | xfonts-terminus | 08:20 |
| \sh | malone now ;) | 08:20 |
| herve | no, I eat now :-) | 08:21 |
| \sh | oh yes food...well i forgot to go shopping today...was too tired | 08:21 |
| herve | I only have bread and yoghourts to eat! | 08:23 |
| ivoks | lol | 08:23 |
| ivoks | why is debian_version in /etc still 3.1? | 08:23 |
| \sh | sounds good :) i want to have one bread, white, with jam ;) | 08:24 |
| ogra | ivoks, is there a newer one ? | 08:24 |
| ivoks | ogra: allways :) | 08:25 |
| herve | ivoks, because sarge is 3.1 | 08:25 |
| ivoks | herve: i know that, i'm using debian since '99. | 08:26 |
| herve | I don't see the point :-) | 08:26 |
| herve | so why do you ask? | 08:26 |
| ivoks | never mind :) | 08:26 |
| ivoks | I had car accident, remeber? | 08:26 |
| ivoks | i bumped my head | 08:27 |
| herve | you never told me | 08:27 |
| ivoks | no? | 08:27 |
| ivoks | big one... one moth ago | 08:27 |
| herve | not yet I mean :-) | 08:28 |
| ivoks | three cars... i was in the middle :( | 08:28 |
| herve | ouch | 08:28 |
| ivoks | i was searching for a parking space | 08:29 |
| ivoks | for 20-30 minutes | 08:29 |
| ivoks | finnaly, i spoted one... | 08:29 |
| ivoks | and i was just getting ready to put my punto in that little place | 08:29 |
| ivoks | when a peugeot, ah that french cars, smashed me from behind | 08:30 |
| herve | sorry but there's no relationship with it being a french car | 08:30 |
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| ivoks | :)) | 08:30 |
| ivoks | yes, there is... | 08:30 |
| ivoks | french and italian car... you don't know wich is worse :) | 08:31 |
| ivoks | nhf, but.... | 08:31 |
| herve | I'd rather drive a peugeot than a fiat ;-) | 08:31 |
| ivoks | things are how they are :) | 08:31 |
| ivoks | herve: i agree, that's why i have ford :) | 08:31 |
| ivoks | poor peugot was totaly smashed | 08:32 |
| ivoks | i mean, that car will never drive again | 08:32 |
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| herve | a ford punto, sure :-) | 08:32 |
| ivoks | herve: ford focus | 08:32 |
| herve | \sh, so you get virtually hurt? | 08:32 |
| ivoks | and fiat punto for town :) | 08:32 |
| herve | ha ok | 08:32 |
| === \sh writes 1000 times "Do not involve yourself in politics" | ||
| ivoks | :) | 08:32 |
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| herve | \sh, isn't it a political act? :-) | 08:33 |
| ivoks | politics? | 08:33 |
| \sh | see #u-d | 08:33 |
| ivoks | :) | 08:34 |
| herve | I don't read #u-d to get peace of mind :-) | 08:34 |
| ivoks | who are you, anyway? :) | 08:34 |
| ivoks | oh... again french :) | 08:35 |
| ivoks | \sh: is that french guy teasing you? :) | 08:36 |
| herve | hey! | 08:36 |
| herve | :-) | 08:36 |
| ogra_d | ivoks, careful, thats the second debian release manager ;) | 08:37 |
| \sh | ivoks: no :) | 08:37 |
| ivoks | ogra_d: :) | 08:37 |
| herve | hey, a straburg guy! | 08:38 |
| ivoks | now i can bitch around why is debian so slow :) | 08:38 |
| ogra_d | ergh | 08:40 |
| ogra_d | dholbach, | 08:40 |
| ogra_d | ... | 08:40 |
| ogra_d | june 19 is a sunday | 08:40 |
| ivoks | no fune there anymore :( | 08:40 |
| ogra_d | any objections that i move it to the 20th ? | 08:41 |
| ogra_d | (next meeting that is) | 08:41 |
| herve | ok for me | 08:43 |
| ogra | ok, its a wiki anyway, we can change it later.... | 08:43 |
| ivoks | ok, can i come to meeting? | 08:44 |
| ogra | ivoks, why not | 08:45 |
| ivoks | they are in ubuntu-meeting? | 08:45 |
| herve | yep | 08:47 |
| ogra | sure | 08:47 |
| DanielN | mhm | 08:48 |
| DanielN | wanna look to such meeting too, one time ;) | 08:49 |
| herve | OT: nice moment when a band of friends had the same idea at the same time! | 08:49 |
| ogra | we had one 2hrs ago | 08:49 |
| herve | DanielN, just come in, it's free! :-) | 08:49 |
| DanielN | :) | 08:49 |
| ivoks | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/TechnicalBoardAgenda ? | 08:49 |
| ivoks | herve: can we bring pop-corn? :) | 08:50 |
| DanielN | ^^ | 08:50 |
| ivoks | DanielN: you get the coke, i'll bring wine :) | 08:50 |
| ogra_d | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUMeeting | 08:50 |
| herve | ivoks: only if you provide enough for us all! | 08:50 |
| herve | anyway, you can attend any meeting | 08:51 |
| herve | just keep silent if you're not concerned | 08:51 |
| ivoks | herve: i have wine celer and wineyard | 08:51 |
| DanielN | :> | 08:51 |
| ivoks | or how it is called in english... | 08:51 |
| herve | and shut off your mobile phone ;-) | 08:51 |
| ivoks | ok | 08:51 |
| DanielN | herve, i never do that at all. not at (real) business-meetings too :-) | 08:52 |
| DanielN | (reffered to the mobile-phone) | 08:52 |
| herve | not even in theaters, cinemas, etc. ? | 08:53 |
| herve | very bad | 08:53 |
| ivoks | movie stops for him :) | 08:53 |
| dholbach | ogra_d: ok for me | 08:53 |
| DanielN | mhm .. for me it's like an advanture .. rings it or rings it not ? :-) | 08:53 |
| herve | yeah, for the others too | 08:53 |
| DanielN | ^^ | 08:54 |
| ogra | dholbach, you couldnt edit it anyway ;-P | 08:54 |
| dholbach | :-) | 08:54 |
| DanielN | dholbach: extremely short time back to the channel op thing: i didn't use the chanserv command directly to #ubuntu-motu, i used the "op all command", cause for me it's to much to select the right one chans :P | 08:56 |
| dholbach | DanielN: if you have the time for something like that... | 08:57 |
| DanielN | not really | 08:57 |
| ivoks | enough for today.. | 08:58 |
| ivoks | bye all | 08:58 |
| ivoks | time to go out and conquer some ladies | 08:58 |
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| \sh | re :) | 09:15 |
| herve | you were gone? :-) | 09:15 |
| \sh | well...virtually :) i had a long chat with this svenl :) | 09:16 |
| \sh | quite interessting btw | 09:17 |
| herve | what was the issue, anyway? | 09:17 |
| herve | ho, wait | 09:17 |
| herve | he is a debian release manager? | 09:17 |
| \sh | yes | 09:17 |
| \sh | but we weren't discussion this :) | 09:17 |
| herve | don't you delay the release of sarge even more! | 09:17 |
| herve | :-) | 09:17 |
| \sh | he asked about ubuntu cds/dvds to give away with pegasos ppc boards and computers | 09:18 |
| \sh | and the former default OS was morph OS for this platform...after a time, some morphos devs wrote on their webpage that genesi ( the manufacture of pegasosppc) is not paying them anymore for dev work | 09:19 |
| \sh | (http://www.morphos.net) | 09:19 |
| \sh | after this, I saw an announcement on gentoo-core that genesi is sponsoring the gentoo project...and I was not sure, what is the truth behind all this bad and sad PR | 09:19 |
| herve | yet another dallas scenario :-) | 09:19 |
| \sh | and the reason why i was bugging him is: i want to know :) | 09:20 |
| herve | okay | 09:21 |
| \sh | and now I will send him an email with my contact data and trying to get a dev machine for (K)ubuntu developing on a ppc platform :) | 09:21 |
| herve | I thought it was some violent discussion about ubuntu decisions | 09:21 |
| ogra | oh, is he related to pegasos anyhow ? | 09:21 |
| chiefofthejojos | ogra: so, I should read the "Debian New Maintainer's Guide" to understand the basics of packaging? | 09:21 |
| \sh | and he is also some days in germany, so it's time to meet with him anyways :) | 09:21 |
| \sh | ogra: yeah | 09:21 |
| ogra | chiefofthejojos, thats a good start, yes... | 09:21 |
| herve | \sh, he's not living far from Germany, anyway | 09:22 |
| \sh | herve: right now he's in frankfurt oberursel :) | 09:22 |
| chiefofthejojos | cool, perhaps I should wait 'til I get home from work to do all this :-[ | 09:22 |
| chiefofthejojos | ;) | 09:22 |
| herve | chiefofthejojos, yes, take your time | 09:22 |
| herve | reading it fast won't help | 09:22 |
| \sh | chiefofthejojos: learning by doing :) and use the force :) | 09:23 |
| herve | have a whisky and start reading! | 09:23 |
| ogra | chiefofthejojos, and dont fear to bug us with questions | 09:23 |
| chiefofthejojos | hehe, thanks guys I've got some rum at home, will that work? | 09:23 |
| herve | well, think before asking, though :-) | 09:23 |
| ogra | chiefofthejojos, rum is ok too | 09:23 |
| herve | chiefofthejojos, not after the third glass ;-) | 09:23 |
| chiefofthejojos | hehe | 09:23 |
| \sh | to lighten some nice burnings, rum is quite good ;) 80% stroh rum ;) | 09:24 |
| herve | ha... stroh rum... | 09:24 |
| \sh | and as medicine also formidable :) | 09:24 |
| herve | :-) | 09:24 |
| herve | and for cleaning old traces of fat! | 09:24 |
| chiefofthejojos | hehe, I'll just make sure not to join the channel after 3 or more so I won't ask stupid questions :) | 09:24 |
| ogra | i one had a russian jeep.... you could drive it with "stroh rum" | 09:25 |
| ogra | once even | 09:25 |
| Treenaks | ogra: what a waste of stroh rum! | 09:26 |
| ogra | Treenaks, depends.... | 09:26 |
| chiefofthejojos | what else would you use it for? O:-) | 09:27 |
| herve | so you could drive to the shop and buy more! | 09:27 |
| ogra | Treenaks, if you use it to drive to the liquor store to get even more of it, its fine ;) | 09:27 |
| Treenaks | ogra: hm, good point :) | 09:27 |
| ogra | herve, :) | 09:27 |
| chiefofthejojos | haha | 09:27 |
| herve | ogra, ;-) | 09:27 |
| dholbach | you rock! :-) | 09:27 |
| \sh | ok...kvirc build 1 | 09:27 |
| herve | whoops! I had a ftbfs on the fire! | 09:27 |
| \sh | i need a faster laptop | 09:27 |
| ogra | \sh, get a build server ;) | 09:28 |
| herve | \sh, you just need a real machine | 09:28 |
| \sh | herve: haha :) tell it to my ex-wife...she's eating my money | 09:28 |
| ogra | \sh, only because you sponsor her traveling around the world | 09:29 |
| herve | pay her in ubuntu cd :-) | 09:29 |
| ogra | hehe | 09:29 |
| \sh | ogra: no this i didn't pay...but the rest | 09:29 |
| dholbach | see you guys tomorrow | 09:29 |
| dholbach | have a nice evening | 09:29 |
| ogra | ciao dholbach | 09:29 |
| \sh | u too dholbach | 09:29 |
| herve | see you dholbach | 09:29 |
| chiefofthejojos | see you dholbach | 09:29 |
| dholbach | ogra, \sh, herve, chiefofthejojos: you all rock! the world needs more guys like you! :-) | 09:30 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 09:30 |
| \sh | ogra: i'm looking forward to meet up with u and dholbach (and mvo eventually ;)) | 09:30 |
| herve | you mean, chatting insteading of working? :-) | 09:30 |
| === ogra blushes | ||
| chiefofthejojos | thank you! | 09:30 |
| herve | (instead) | 09:30 |
| dholbach | herve: you know that's not all :-) | 09:31 |
| === \sh blueished | ||
| ogra | \sh, ubuntu mini conference ? | 09:31 |
| \sh | ogra: sure :) | 09:31 |
| ogra | heh | 09:31 |
| dholbach | *wave* | 09:31 |
| \sh | ogra: UaO | 09:31 |
| ogra | heh | 09:31 |
| chiefofthejojos | ogra: I'm not familiar with irc, how to you produce a line like this: "***ogra blushes"? | 09:31 |
| \sh | or UdO? | 09:31 |
| ogra | /me blushes | 09:31 |
| ogra | chiefofthejojos, try it :) | 09:32 |
| === chiefofthejojos can't believe he didn't know how to do this | ||
| ogra | ha | 09:32 |
| chiefofthejojos | cool | 09:32 |
| \sh | chief: <nick>!<user>@host privmsg: \0x001blushes\x001 | 09:32 |
| \sh | but easier to do an /me bla | 09:32 |
| chiefofthejojos | \sh: what's that? | 09:32 |
| \sh | chiefofthejojos: the actual representation of ctcp commands like /me :) | 09:33 |
| herve | what the irc client sends | 09:33 |
| \sh | rfc1492? | 09:33 |
| chiefofthejojos | oh, interesting | 09:33 |
| \sh | have to check my old kmyirc sources :) | 09:33 |
| chiefofthejojos | see you guys, we're having a call to foosball at work | 09:33 |
| chiefofthejojos | :-D | 09:34 |
| \sh | chiefofthejojos: good to have u around :) | 09:34 |
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| \sh | hmm...applications should also be renamed for the cxx trans? | 09:34 |
| ogra | nope | 09:34 |
| tseng|work | nice someone fixed the __thread bug ogra | 09:34 |
| tseng|work | we can use it now | 09:34 |
| herve | I can't imagine the mess, otherwise :-) | 09:34 |
| ogra | only their deps | 09:34 |
| \sh | ok | 09:35 |
| ogra | tseng|work, hooray | 09:35 |
| tseng|work | http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/mono-patches/2005-May/058760.html | 09:35 |
| tseng|work | very very simple patch | 09:35 |
| \sh | ogra: and if they have shlibs attached, right? | 09:35 |
| herve | yeah, like the last patch in debian's samba | 09:35 |
| herve | removing a "!" in a condition ;-) | 09:36 |
| ogra | tseng|work, yeah | 09:36 |
| tseng|work | now i know why gentoo doesnt have it | 09:36 |
| tseng|work | they all set their CHOST to 686 | 09:36 |
| tseng|work | :D | 09:36 |
| ogra | heh | 09:36 |
| Treenaks | tseng|work: *mumbles something about funroll-loops.org* | 09:37 |
| \sh | tseng: lol | 09:37 |
| herve | I wonder if I'd like to understand such jokes one day | 09:38 |
| ogra | herve, they are optimizing themselves away ;) | 09:38 |
| \sh | herve: www.gentoo.org and read the installation handbook :) then u know :) | 09:38 |
| \sh | (well the beginnings of this hype :)) | 09:39 |
| herve | do you have the same expression: "best is the enemy of better" ? | 09:39 |
| \sh | i only know "das beste ist nicht gut genug" | 09:40 |
| herve | not really this | 09:42 |
| herve | nevermind | 09:42 |
| herve | I think I understand gentoo is optimizing too much wrt stability | 09:42 |
| \sh | herve: not at all..the kids yes, but not the devs normally...but u r right, it's one of the weakening points of gentoo | 09:43 |
| herve | I thought it was spending 90% time compiling and 10% time using your system :-) | 09:44 |
| herve | say you receive a "const GraphObserver * obs1" in a function | 09:49 |
| herve | why g++ won't let you cast it to an unsigned for comparison | 09:49 |
| herve | I mean, why would this be an error? | 09:49 |
| tseng|work | flaming losers in gentoo is a very loud minority group, I guess | 09:52 |
| tseng|work | oh well. | 09:52 |
| \sh | tseng: flaming losers? | 09:54 |
| \sh | what usergroup is it? | 09:54 |
| herve | sorry for the paste: | 09:55 |
| herve | In particular, code like this: | 09:55 |
| herve | int i; | 09:55 |
| herve | (char) i = 5; | 09:55 |
| herve | 09:55 | |
| herve | why would casting be removed from C++? | 09:55 |
| \sh | uint i; (char) i=5 should work | 09:56 |
| \sh | type compatiblity | 09:56 |
| Treenaks | herve: signedness.. | 09:56 |
| herve | treenaks, weirdness to me :-) | 09:57 |
| tseng|work | \sh: the -O99 -j007 kids | 09:57 |
| \sh | herve: strict typechecking :) one of the new goodies of gcc4 ;) | 09:57 |
| \sh | tseng: oh yeah :) | 09:57 |
| herve | ok, I'll try something | 09:58 |
| herve | but I need someone with an amd64 or ia64 | 09:58 |
| \sh | herve: bug ogra ,) | 09:59 |
| herve | \sh, Treenaks, any idea why "cast from 'const GraphObserver*' to 'unsigned int' loses precision" would only occur on 64 bit platforms? | 09:59 |
| herve | \sh, I was hinting at ogra ;-) | 10:00 |
| Treenaks | herve: a pointer cast into an integer.. | 10:00 |
| Treenaks | herve: maybe? | 10:00 |
| ogra | hmm, no idea... | 10:01 |
| herve | Treenaks, I only want to say "mind you, g++, I do wathever I wish with my values" | 10:01 |
| herve | but i386 compiles fine | 10:01 |
| herve | ogra, just for borrowing a few hours of your cpu :-) | 10:01 |
| Treenaks | wait for one of the C++ gurus :) | 10:01 |
| herve | to torture him? :-) | 10:02 |
| Treenaks | herve: hmm, maybe | 10:02 |
| === Treenaks thinks herve has turned to the dark side ;) | ||
| \sh | i need to fix more on kvirc then the build-deps and conflicts | 10:03 |
| \sh | *grmpf* | 10:03 |
| === herve gazing deeply at ogra | ||
| herve | I should have asked ssh access to dholbach before he left | 10:04 |
| ogra | herve, upload the source pkg anywhere | 10:05 |
| === tseng|work does a __thread mono test build | ||
| tseng|work | who has a ppc? | 10:12 |
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| herve | hi nafallo! | 10:13 |
| Nafallo | hi herve :-). how's it going? | 10:13 |
| \sh | bahhh | 10:13 |
| herve | ogra, http://deb.oursours.net/motu/ | 10:13 |
| herve | nafallo, still able to resist to the dark side! | 10:14 |
| herve | (private joke inside) | 10:14 |
| herve | ogra, thanks in advance! | 10:14 |
| Nafallo | *s* | 10:14 |
| ogra | herve, when does the error uccur ? | 10:14 |
| ogra | s/u/o | 10:15 |
| herve | how so? | 10:15 |
| Nafallo | ogra: hi! care to translate something for me? ;-) | 10:15 |
| herve | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/t/tulip/2.0.2-4ubuntu1/tulip_2.0.2-4ubuntu1_20050518-2012-amd64-failed.bz2 | 10:15 |
| Nafallo | Diese BIOS-Version verbessert ... | 10:16 |
| Nafallo | - die Stabilitt der ACPI Eigenschaften. | 10:16 |
| Nafallo | - die Systemstabilitt bei 3D Anwendungen. | 10:16 |
| herve | nafallo: This BIOS version improves... - the stability of the ACPI characteristics. - the dependability with 3D applications. | 10:17 |
| Nafallo | herve: ahh, thanks :-). I actually have had some trouble with my ACPI :-P. | 10:18 |
| ozamosi | dependability? Shouldn't that be stability..? | 10:18 |
| ogra | yep | 10:18 |
| herve | I read mono is generating its gtk bindings by parsing the source... impressive! | 10:19 |
| ogra | system stability | 10:19 |
| herve | and why do the other bindings don't do the same? :-) | 10:19 |
| Nafallo | hehe, I don't even use 3D ;-) | 10:19 |
| herve | nafallo you will when firefox 1.1 will be improved by 3D acceleration ;-) | 10:19 |
| herve | (nice usage of three time the do auxiliary ;-) | 10:20 |
| Nafallo | herve: well. ati radeon mobility 9700 that give me nothing more than a black screen with fglrx ;-). | 10:24 |
| herve | me too this morning | 10:24 |
| herve | but just because someone | 10:24 |
| herve | moved the fonts to another directory :-p | 10:25 |
| Nafallo | herve: I got it any time I try :-). happens three times a year that I does or something ;-). | 10:25 |
| Nafallo | s/does/do/ | 10:25 |
| ogra | herve, sorry, takes a moment, i'm updating my pbuilder... | 10:26 |
| herve | ogra, no problem, I wasn't expecting it for at least tomorro | 10:30 |
| ogra | ok | 10:30 |
| \sh | that is really weired | 10:33 |
| \sh | cdbs anyone? | 10:33 |
| ogra | nah | 10:33 |
| jbailey | \sh: Hmm? | 10:33 |
| \sh | jbailey: u have time to check something? | 10:34 |
| \sh | :) | 10:34 |
| \sh | apt-get source kvirc ;) | 10:34 |
| jbailey | \sh: Not at the moment, sorry. | 10:34 |
| \sh | autotools.mk is processing all autotools stuff...even if it shouldn't be build | 10:34 |
| \sh | kde.mk not...now I'm standing there with my ??? on my face | 10:35 |
| ogra | \sh, ... why do you use autotools.mk at all then ? | 10:36 |
| \sh | ogra: the debian package is using it | 10:36 |
| \sh | and I found my debdiff a bit strange ;) | 10:36 |
| herve | I wouldn't trust all the packages I touched in the course of the motu :-) | 10:38 |
| herve | night all! | 10:38 |
| ogra | \sh, did you recognize #ubuntu-de ? | 10:40 |
| \sh | ogra: no...i wasn't reading it for quite a while...whats up? | 10:41 |
| ogra | someone gave the advise to do rm -rf / to someone who had no space left on his device.... | 10:42 |
| \sh | who? | 10:43 |
| ogra | poxymox told it to gaulois2 | 10:44 |
| ogra | hmm, herves patch doesnt apply... | 10:44 |
| \sh | fck...poor gaulois2 | 10:45 |
| ogra | yep | 10:46 |
| blueyed | he is not a noob, he will not have done it. | 10:46 |
| ogra | but poxymox is really sorry... guess he'll never do it again... | 10:46 |
| ajmitch | hi | 10:47 |
| \sh | i hope so... | 10:47 |
| blueyed | ok, he has done it.. :/ | 10:47 |
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| tseng|work | bye | 11:03 |
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| \sh | ok...this is really amazing | 11:11 |
| \sh | kvirc is dirt | 11:12 |
| \sh | basicplugin.tar.gz: basicplugin/* | 11:12 |
| \sh | tar cvzf basicplugin.tar.gz basicplugin | 11:12 |
| \sh | this was the rule in one makefile.am | 11:12 |
| \sh | and using autotools.mk tries to generate the project itself for basicplugin but it's only an example | 11:13 |
| \sh | so removing the basicplugin/* helped | 11:13 |
| \sh | as source target | 11:14 |
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| \sh | kvirc ready | 11:22 |
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| \sh | time to go to bed | 11:33 |
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