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screamzhow can I remove the old firefox , because the newest is installed but only the old one shows in menu12:01
nickrudCine, /usr/bin/gst-register0.8, it cleans up gstreamer12:01
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Cineah, thanks nick12:01
Sionidescreamz do a search in synaptic for mozilla12:02
stevenjnickrud any idea on how to stream movies with totem-gstreamer?12:02
screamzold one is executed by firefox and the new one by mozilla-firefox12:02
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Cinehmm... command not found12:02
nickrudstevenj, no, i use totem-xine right now12:02
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Sionidethey'll probably have 2 different entries in synaptic12:02
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Sionideso you'll just have to "completely remove" the older one12:02
screamzI believe I custom build it a long time ago12:02
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Razor-Xwhere could I get a real small motherboard?12:03
screamzk, i ll search in synaptics12:03
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tahorgRazor-X: pc-104 ?12:03
vickshi everybody!12:03
Razor-Xtahorg: lemme see12:03
tahorghttp://www.pc104.org/12:03
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screamznope, I can only find the new firefox12:04
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screamzI ll just replace the icons and keep it a little bit bloated :D12:05
tahorgRazor-X: http://www.diamondsystems.com/ for example12:06
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tahorgRazor-X: really small12:06
Razor-Xoooh, nice12:06
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nickrudCine, sorry a typo, it's gst-register-0.812:06
Cinelol, thanks nick12:07
vicksone of my disks is running kubuntu. now i want to remove this and install ubuntu. the other (priamary) disk is running xp and grub. do need to reconfigure grub in any way, or does the ubuntu-installer take care of this?12:07
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Razor-Xthat's _just_ what I need12:08
Razor-Xa 1.7" x 1.7"12:08
Cinethanks nick, fixed it right up12:08
lotusleafvicks, why not just download gnome from within kubuntu? I'm downloading kde from within ubuntu12:08
nmorsevicks: why do you want to uninstall kubuntu, only to replace it with Ubuntu?12:08
vickslotusleaf: yeah i have done this, its choas on my desktop and i don't have the enrgy to fix it =)12:09
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lotusleafvicks, it's chaos?12:09
tahorgRazor-X: when you need smth, ask a professional12:09
tahorg:)12:09
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vicksit's looks like like kde and gde wen't into the bedroom and produced a bastard of some kind12:09
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vicksgnome dekstop, but kde icons, fonts etc etc12:10
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lotusleafvicks, shouldn't be any problem using one or the other if both installed12:10
lotusleafvicks, those are configurable12:10
sbcl3how do i mount /dev/sda3 to my /home/sbcl3 without any damages? i put in 'mount /dev/sda3 /home/sbcl3' and everything went away, and i had to restart12:10
sbcl3is it possible?12:10
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Razor-Xback12:10
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cspanhey, i just installed hoary ppc12:11
sbcl3<sbcl3> how do i mount /dev/sda3 to my /home/sbcl3 without any damages? i put in 'mount /dev/sda3 /home/sbcl3' and everything went away, and i had to restart12:11
cspanand when i try to launch the update manager12:12
cspanit doesn't work12:12
vickslotusleaf: the thing is the disk on which kubuntu is installed is a linux-testing-are anyway, so it's not very much labor to reinstall it. So: will grub run inte problem if i do a fresh install?12:12
cspanit asks me for my password12:12
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cspanand when i write it12:12
cspanit says the child process exited with status 112:13
lotusleafvicks, dunno I've never used kubuntu12:13
screamzhmz, sorry for the stupid questions, but I just removed all mozilla stuff with synaptic and apt-get mozilla-firefox asks for the cd12:13
dataw0lf|wcspan: you sure caps lock isn't on? you have the right password for your user ?12:13
screamzdo I need to change something in my apt configuration?12:13
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cspandataw0lf, caps lock is not on (OTHERWISE I'D BE WRITING LIKE THIS hehehe)12:14
we2byany one has the movie on their pc allready?12:14
cspanand of course i've got the password, that's how i logged in12:14
cspani tried with the root password too12:15
cspanbut didn't work either12:15
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goldfish_yo hybrid_goth12:15
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hybrid_gothhey12:16
hybrid_gothgoldfish: how is it goin12:16
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topyliscreamz: in /etc/apt/sources.list, remove the lines referring to the CD if you don't want to use it12:16
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topyliscreamz: if you think you'll want to use it in the future, comment them out with a #12:16
screamztopyli: there are no lines refering to the cd in my sources.list I just checked12:16
topylihrm12:17
goldfishscreamz: you sure? one of the first lines has it12:17
hybrid_gothtopyli: i thot you were screaming b/c of the screamz12:17
topyliheh, i never scream :)12:17
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cspannobody has an idea about my non-working password?12:17
hybrid_gothtopyli: you sound like my english teacher12:18
hybrid_gothcspan: was up?12:18
topylihybrid_goth: he's a liar too? =)12:18
screamzgoldfish: if access to my cd drive can be granted by http or ftp it s still in my sources.list12:18
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hybrid_gothtopyli: heh no she is a royal Bit- well you know12:19
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=== SymGeosis wonders why mozilla.org doesn't detect that he has Firefox 1.0.4 installed from backports.
SymGeosisIt's annoying. I'd like to be able to download my extensions, dangit.12:19
hybrid_gothcspan: was up with your pass?12:19
Sionidescreamz, do you not have a cd?12:19
screamzI do12:19
screamzbut I refuse12:19
screamzI want fresh packages :)12:19
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cspanwhen i try to open the update manager, or any other similar application that requires admin privileges, hybrid_goth, it asks for my password and when i write it says child process exited with status 112:20
screamzI don t want the 0.9.bleh12:20
topyliscreamz: i don't know. could it be synaptic has its own ideas... check the repositories in the synaptic settings12:20
IFRFLYRAnyone good with rsync?12:20
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screamzI ll try to install with synaptics then12:20
hybrid_gothcspan: hmm12:21
topyliscreamz: anyway, apt/synaptic should get the latest packages, be it on CD or the Net.12:21
hybrid_gothcspan: hoary?12:21
cspanalso, sound works funny: it pops really loud when it starts playing and then is veeeery soft12:21
cspanyeah, hoary12:21
nobileI get the same problem as cspan when I am trying to update from my parents account12:21
cspanon ppc12:21
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George__hi12:21
George__i needa some help12:21
nobileI just move to mine and it works =P12:21
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cspanthe sound issue could be platform-specific12:21
hybrid_gothcspan: heh on ppc to. on the sound try esd12:21
screamztopyli: I want it to work without apt naging about the cd :p12:22
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cspani'm using esd, hybrid_goth !12:22
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cspanit comes by default12:22
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cspandoesn't it?12:22
nobilegeorge__ ask your question =)12:22
topyliscreamz: i bet it's annoying. dunno what's wrong though :(12:22
George__i got cedega, and install cs source. I wanna know how to remove the black screens when i play and make it full screen, i also dont have any sound, i also can't read the font. Anyone got a solution?12:22
hybrid_gothcspan: not always12:22
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goldfishGeorge__: try #cedega or look at the transgaming forums12:23
cspanwell, it is esd12:23
cspanand it's working funny12:23
George__i didn't buy :(12:23
goldfishGeorge__: well look at the forums12:23
goldfishthere is loads about cs and cs:source on them12:23
George__I cant ? or can i12:23
goldfishGeorge__: also try ubuntu forums12:23
goldfishu can12:23
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George__i am12:23
goldfishok12:23
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cspananyway, my problem number one is the password issue12:24
hybrid_gothcspan: what are you playin it with12:24
computerguy867hello, everyone, can someone help me with a really odd totem error12:24
sleptscreamz, comment the line ins /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't want to use the cd, then do apt-get update12:24
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cspanhybrid_goth, with the cd player12:24
cspanit's a cd12:24
hybrid_gothcspan: try compilin oh nvm12:24
cspanbut the system sounds also sound with a loud pop and then silence12:24
hybrid_gothumm the pass12:24
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thingfishcomputerguy867: the best thing to do is just state in detail what's happening, what error message you get, etc., and then if someone knows how to help they'll speak up.12:25
cspancompiling what?12:25
cspanhybrid_goth, compiling what?12:25
hybrid_gothcspan: i was going to say mplayer but you got to sudo make install12:25
George__how do i get to cedega forum12:25
cspanwell12:25
screamzslept: can you paste the line in sources.list that involves checking cd as source?12:25
screamzit seems I can t find it12:25
cspanthe thing is, hybrid_goth, i can su!!12:25
computerguy867well, I have been using totem for a while with no problem and out of nowhere it gives me an error with playing video files that it could always play.  It gives an error:Video codec 'XviD format' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies12:26
hybrid_gothcspan: well what programs could you not get to run?12:26
cspanoooook, hybrid_goth, i know what the problem is12:26
computerguy867or also: Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies12:26
cspanmy user is not in the sudoers file12:26
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cspanwhere's that file?12:27
hybrid_gothcspan: yea that may effect it :P12:27
hybrid_gothlocate sudoer12:27
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sleptscreamz,  I don't have that line but you can figure it out easy - should be one of the first lines12:27
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computerguy867the problem is that I have those codecs12:27
computerguy867it has always played those files12:28
screamzslept: I only have lines with http or ftp so that shouldn t prompt apt to look for the cd doesn t it?12:28
TestDummyHow do I install Nvu? I don't see it in Synaptic and apt-get itself doesn't see anything, and the file on their site doesn't work, source won't compile right either12:28
sleptcspan, visudo /etc/sudoers12:28
screamzAfter unpacking 27.9MB of additional disk space will be used.12:28
screamzMedia Change: Please insert the disc labelled12:28
screamz 'Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)'12:28
screamzin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter12:28
nobiletestdummy, google the dl12:28
nobileor, wait, I'll get you the link12:29
TestDummy=|12:29
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TestDummyI know where to get it12:29
TestDummyBut that doesn't work12:29
sleptscreamz, look for Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)'12:29
TestDummyIsn't it on apt?12:29
computerguy867darn, Im so stumped12:29
nobileno, it's a bit more complicated =P12:29
cspanok12:29
cspanthat's working!!12:29
cspannow the sound :(12:29
hybrid_gothlol12:29
thingfishcomputerguy867: yeah, me too.  Are your plugins the latest versions?12:30
hybrid_gothcspan: i didnt have much multimedia untill i d/l the mplayer src and compiled12:30
computerguy867yea12:30
topyliscreamz: here's a sources.list that used to work for me on warty: http://siltala.net/comp/warty-sources.list12:30
cspando i need to compile it???12:30
thingfishreal player 10 handles multimedia fine.12:30
cspanwhy cant i just apt-get it?12:30
computerguy867is there any way to refresh the player so it knows what plugins it has12:30
cspanbtw, hybrid_goth, what kind of ppc are you on?12:31
keffoanyone knows if the gDesklets-icon in the "tray" is hideable?12:31
screamztopyli: got it, thnx12:31
screamzbut, After unpacking 27.9MB of additional disk space will be used.12:31
screamzGet:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main mozilla-firefox 0.99+1.0PR.1+revertedto0.9.3-0ubuntu3 [9568kB] 12:31
screamzit s installing a <1 version of firefox now?12:31
topyliscreamz: that's what warty has12:31
thingfishcomputerguy867: has there been a recent round of updates you've maybe done?12:31
hybrid_gothcspan: ibook g312:32
computerguy867not related to media12:32
nobiletestdummy:   http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/nvu/nvu_0.99+1.0pre-1_i386.deb12:32
computerguy867just bzip and a few others that i cant remember12:32
thingfishcomputerguy867: like what though.12:32
TestDummyI don't know how to use DEB's..12:32
screamzso I should update my sources list to hoary?12:32
thingfishoh, just the ones in the update manager12:32
TestDummyI remember using RPM's when I used Suse, that was pure hell..12:32
nobilehmm12:32
TestDummyHow do I work with that?12:32
thingfishTestDummy: man dpkg12:32
nobilehehe12:32
hybrid_gothTestDummy: dpkg -i12:33
Sionidecan anyone point me in the direction of how to set up a machine to dual-boot ?12:33
paulproteusSionide: To dual boot Windows and Ubuntu?12:33
TestDummydpkg -i then...12:33
lotusleafTestDummy, check the debian documentation for some good info12:33
topyliscreamz: you could upgrade the whole system12:33
cspanhybrid_goth, i'm guessing it is alsa and oss12:33
Sionideyeah, ubuntu being primary OS with a small (tiny!) windows 2k as well12:33
screamztopyli: seems like a good idea :)12:33
hybrid_gothcspan: i have alsa and esd idk about oss12:33
Razor-X-_-12:33
topyliscreamz: if you got the bandwith :)12:33
Razor-Xthis is expensive.....12:33
computerguy867thingfish: It still doesnt work even after completely removing and reinstalling totem12:33
egg|broken_-12:33
TestDummynobile: I guess I'll try that, can't right now though12:34
TestDummyThanks.12:34
paulproteusSionide: If you just install Ubuntu after you have already installed Windows, then Ubuntu will handle dual boot for you.12:34
cspanhybrid_goth, do you have the alsa-oss emulation whatever?12:34
screamzI can I do this by just replacing warty with hoary in my sources.list?12:34
thingfishcomputerguy867: did you try reinstalling the plugins?12:34
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nobileno problem, I am glad I could help ^^12:34
aboodguys, i have mounted 2 windows partions c: and d:, the only C; drive was mounted in ubuntu the NTFS one, the another didnt mounted, it was working but now it gives me this msg when i write mount -a12:34
aboodmount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/D: busy12:34
aboodmount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/C:12:34
Sionidepaulproteus, ok is it that easy? i'll give it a shot tomorrow, install the windows one first you say, then ubuntu...12:34
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topyliscreamz: hold on, i'll post another link :)12:34
paulproteusSionide: Yes.12:34
paulproteusSionide: Actually...12:34
aboodany idea all :)12:35
computerguy867thingfish: I reinstalled win32codecs and libxvidcore412:35
Sionideany links though?12:35
paulproteusSionide: With partitions it can be a little confusing.12:35
paulproteusSionide: Let me see, hold on a sec.12:35
topyliscreamz: http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list12:35
Sionidethanks12:35
screamztopyli: thnx12:35
thingfishcomputerguy867: beats me...12:35
hybrid_gothcspan: no not unless it came with hoary/breezy12:35
topyliscreamz: beware, not everything there is completely stable :)12:36
screamzI believe I ll have to do a distupgrade?12:36
computerguy867thingfish: ok, thanks though12:36
computerguy867:( I miss totem12:36
hybrid_gothcspan: i havent done much with the sound since i compiled mplayer and it worked since then i have been workin in the comman line interface12:36
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topyliscreamz: yeah, upgrade first, dist-upgrade then (maybe even twice if things get hairy)12:36
paulproteusSionide: I don't seen anything on the wiki, so here is my advice.12:36
screamzk12:37
screamzthnx12:37
paulproteusSionide: Is this a blank hard drive?12:37
hybrid_gothbrb12:37
Sionideyep12:37
Sionidelaptop is coming tomorrow, brand new, no OS pre-installed :)12:37
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Sionidehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo  <-- is a little confusing ... heh12:37
thingfishman, I gotta give it to ubuntu, it's not half bad.12:37
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Sionidegah i gotta shoot12:38
paulproteusSionide: That page is a total mess.12:38
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Sionidei'll give it a go tomorrow12:38
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paulproteusSionide: Okay.  Just install Windows normally first, and then the Ubuntu Installer should help you shrink that partition as necessary to create room for Linux.12:38
paulproteusSionide: It should be that easy.12:38
leitaowhat is the name of the next ubuntu version?12:38
thingfishthere shouldn't be a whole lot to dual booting, especially if windows is already installed.12:38
count0nzleitao, breezy12:38
goldfishyeah it pretty straightforward12:39
leitaocount0nz ! thx12:39
goldfishi did it12:39
screamztopyli: do I have to comment the warty sources or are they needed for some old packages or whatsoever?12:39
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agentevolution crashes with error: 'camel-WARNING **: Invalid root: <some path>/Sent.ibex.index' --- the famous ibex error... HELP!12:39
count0nzBreezy Ready to be distupgraded yet? right now it tends to brake X and X apps12:39
hDyhey guys, I'm try to install ubuntu 5.04 and it keeps freezing at 79% when installing the kernel.. any suggestions?12:39
thingfishso where do the ubuntu names come from?  I mean, in debian, they're all from Toy Story.12:39
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cspanhybrid_goth, it works now, essentialy it was something about someone not behaving properly12:40
thingfishSome CGI cartoon I've missed, no doubt.12:40
stevenjIf I use totem-xine + mozplugger, should keep all the gstreamer plugins installed?12:40
cspani set gnome to talk directly with alsa and everything works12:41
resiakthingfish: They're animals. :p12:41
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danko123456resiak: lol...12:41
screamz217MB :')12:41
danko123456hdy, perhaps it got downlloaded or burned wrong.12:41
thingfishresiak: yes, but animals with cutesy names.  Teletubbies maybe?12:41
topyliscreamz: nah, just lose the warty stuff12:42
danko123456for a windows dual boot, the installl cd wont help you shrink partitions, where did you ghet that dfrom?12:42
egg|broken?12:42
resiakthingfish: *shrug* Hoary's allegedly an African word, so I doubt it. But I think that someone just has a sense of humour.12:42
danko123456like the south park anmimals:)12:42
hybrid_gothman the breezy upgrades are *fast*12:42
lotusleafI like the naming scheme12:42
thingfishresiak: I was kind of thinking that.12:42
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egg|brokenstupid12:43
hybrid_gothlotusleaf: i like breezy badger thats awesome12:43
thingfishsomeone with a taste for alliteration.12:43
danko123456whats up, Egg?12:43
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stevenjis anyone using totem-xine+mozplugger in here?12:43
topylihybrid_goth: i liked installing woody in the olden times :)12:44
hDyI've burned it twice, is there a crc check or something I can do on it?12:44
hybrid_gothtopyli: why?12:44
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andreas__anybody whit wine here12:44
danko123456yes, check out something called md5 checksum, there is an entry about it in the http://ubuntuguide.org12:44
hybrid_gothtopyli: this was just an apt -upgrade put it was faster then i have ever seen. guess noone is using breezy ppc repos12:44
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hybrid_gothi mean the ppc side is small brezzy is smaller and both is smallest12:45
danko123456hDy: but, that shows how to check it in Ubuntu, so I am not sure what you can do in windows.12:45
^^Superkidd2005^hey guys...12:45
andreas__ hi i have som problem whit configuring wine for ubuntu 4.1012:45
^^Superkidd2005^how can i use the live cd of UBUNTU....12:45
hybrid_goth^^Superkidd2005^: is your bios set to boot of cdrom12:46
^^Superkidd2005^yest it is..12:46
lotusleafandreas__, #winehq12:46
^^Superkidd2005^it's already run...12:46
^^Superkidd2005^but when im clicking one of the icon in the desktop... nothing seems to be happen...12:46
^^Superkidd2005^is there wrong with the LIVE CD....12:46
hybrid_goth^^Superkidd2005^: oh how can you. well dont install anything it may mess up the windows side12:46
^^Superkidd2005^yeah i know...12:47
^^Superkidd2005^but im clicking the icons... nothings happening...12:47
^^Superkidd2005^even the firefox browser...12:47
danko123456its supposed to work, superkid...12:47
^^Superkidd2005^i think theres a problem with the cd... is that right...12:48
hybrid_gothor your input12:48
^^Superkidd2005^what input...12:48
danko123456it does work, as far as I know...12:48
hybrid_gothmouse?12:48
danko123456nothing at all works?12:48
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^^Superkidd2005^how about the keyboard....12:48
count0nzTell me if your dist-upgrade works :) i wana upgrade to badger but reading on forum's that some of gnome is not working12:48
^^Superkidd2005^is there problem with that...12:48
after-9-coronashello, i have a question about wireless internet12:48
hybrid_gothno your mouse may not be working or it could be the cd12:49
^^Superkidd2005^im using a WIRELESS MOUSE AND KEYBOARD....12:49
danko123456why would you upgrade, do you have a reason?12:49
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danko123456superkid, yeah,. try a normal one..12:49
danko123456you can move the cursor about the screen?12:49
^^Superkidd2005^is there any problem using a wireless mouse and keyboard...12:49
^^Superkidd2005^yes i can move it...12:49
hybrid_gothnot afaik12:49
anto9us^^Superkidd2005^: try pairing them with the receiver again12:50
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^^Superkidd2005^it's moving all around the desktop...12:50
danko123456#topic: Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask!12:50
^^Superkidd2005^im trying to use the ENTER but nothing also seems to be happening....12:50
after-9-coronasokay, i have wireless internet, and im not sure how to install in on ubuntu, i have a CD with the drivers but its only for windows.....12:50
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danko123456can you open a terminal?12:50
danko123456can you dfo anything at all?12:50
danko123456can you work in a terminal through alt+ctrl+f1...12:51
^^Superkidd2005^im using the UBUNTU 5.0412:51
saber_can anyone here access: http://adblock.mozdev.org/      ?12:51
saber_i'm getting an error12:51
^^Superkidd2005^is there any problem with that LIVE CD...12:51
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iDennisoops12:51
lotusleafsaber_, why bother with adblock? just use the mvps hosts file12:51
anto9usafter-9-coronas: some wifi cards will work on linux natively, some require a bit of magic called ndiswrapper which uses the windows driver12:51
redtechis spamassassin the best to use with Evolution ?12:51
saber_lotusleaf: i'm not sure what mvps is... let me go find out about it12:52
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grobisnochange to get in http://adblock.mozdev.org/12:52
hybrid_gothredtech: get a gmail account they have nice spam controll12:52
lotusleafsaber_, google for it, or find it here: probably under security/misc: http://lotusleaf.nermal.net/linux.html12:52
danko123456after-9-coronas: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards , then http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper12:53
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saber_cool i'm looking12:53
iDennisi'm loving ubuntuguide.org12:53
danko123456after-9-coronas: whats the card?12:53
hybrid_gothlol12:53
danko123456bah, go get a life?12:54
turkeyonmyfacehi guys,i am new to this makarky.I have just installed ubuntu and selected the wrong x driver, the video driver thing in the base setup program12:54
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turkeyonmyfacehow can i run this again and select a new one?12:54
anoopdoes anyone have any experience getting an external display working with a thinkpad?12:54
danko123456let me ask you this, how did you come up with that nick?12:54
saber_lotusleaf, you've got a good collection of links. i'm going go bookmark your site12:54
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lotusleafsaber_, glad I could help, did you find the mvps hosts file?12:55
turkeyonmyfacei like turkey12:55
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saber_yeah12:55
turkeyonmyfaceany ideas on the old video driver thing?12:55
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lotusleafsaber_, when you paste it into your /etc/hosts file be sure to remove the duplicate localhost entry12:55
saber_i'll be sure to do that, thanks12:56
after-9-coronasum12:56
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lotusleafsaber_, yw, enjoy ad free surfing :)12:56
after-9-coronaswell im on windows right now do you know anywhere i can check on here12:56
danko123456for what, after-9-coronas? tell me the brand and model of the card...12:57
after-9-coronasokay hold on12:57
aboodguys, is there any idea why when i play an *.MPG movie with xine or totem there r no sound and when i play *.avi there is( i think its proplem from codecs or something but i have no experince with it) any help ?12:57
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after-9-coronasLinksys Wireless-G model # WMP54G12:57
count0nzso you said your tired right ?12:58
hybrid_gothback12:58
count0nzargg12:58
danko123456screwed, after-9-coronas:-p12:58
egg|brokenmy xine is happy with mpg,avi...12:58
anto9usturkeyonmyface: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:58
after-9-coronaswhat12:58
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kroCan you do fully automated debian installer installations with VMWare?12:58
danko123456abood: make sure you have this worked out: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats .12:58
danko123456after-9-coronas: no support, if I remember right.12:58
danko123456just a sec.12:59
turkeyonmyfaceany one know what x viedo driver i should select when installing ubuntu, i have a geforce mx4000 ? ? ?12:59
after-9-coronask12:59
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anto9usturkeyonmyface: I'm not absolutely sure but I think it's nvidea12:59
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thingfishturkeyonmyface: I think you want the nv driver.01:00
egg|brokenmx4000 = crap01:00
danko123456after-9-coronas: read this page: http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/53.html .01:00
abooddanko123456, i will, i already downloaded the gstream01:00
danko123456abood, well, thats what you can do for now, later on ask crimsun_ if he can double check if your sound is setup correctly.01:00
danko123456I have a similar issue right now, but, I dont watch movies for sound;)01:01
redtechhybrid_g1th: thanks for your repsonse, but I run a business and would much rather use my own email accounts.01:01
after-9-coronasdanko123456: so what do i do?, lol01:01
aboodok thx01:02
danko123456after-9-coronas: read this page: http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/28.html .01:02
after-9-coronasim there01:03
danko123456read it, unless you seriously had 9 coronas, and if you did, then bookmark it and read tomorrow..01:03
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after-9-coronashow do i know if my card is Atheros-based?01:04
after-9-coronaslol01:04
after-9-coronas<--newbie01:05
karljpisn't dpkg -P meant to get rid of all config as well?01:05
danko123456it talks about your exact model.01:05
danko123456karl, wouldnt man give you a more exact answer?01:05
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danko123456how you doin', btw?01:05
after-9-coronasohhhhhhh01:05
after-9-coronasi need to use the linuxant drivers01:06
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karljpdanko: it might.01:06
danko123456they are non-free.01:06
turkeyonmyfacewhen setting up a dual boot between linux and xp which is best to install first?01:06
after-9-coronastheir not free?01:06
after-9-coronasXP01:06
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danko123456exactly.01:06
karljpmore to the point, if I rm /etc/apache2, why doesn't reinstalling apache2 bring me the defaults again?01:06
after-9-coronasdamnit i need a free driver01:06
thingfishturkeyonmyface: windows first, then linux.01:06
andrew_remove the ~/. folder01:06
danko123456sol...01:06
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danko123456andrew_: for apache:)?01:07
andrew_you can't?01:07
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andrew_they don't have a . folder for settings?01:07
danko123456is there a .apache in your ~?01:07
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andrew_I don't run apache, so I'm not sure; I just assumed so01:07
bluefoxicyaoeui01:07
danko123456its a server...not rally.01:07
nobileaoeui01:07
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danko123456yo, thr1ce01:08
Marble2How do I enable administration tasks in the cups web interface?01:08
thr1cehehe :)01:08
lotusleafturkeyonmyface, first install ubuntu, then see you don't need windows, then smile.01:08
thr1ceinternet is acting up01:08
thr1cehm01:08
danko123456karl, what do you need at defaults?01:08
danko123456the conf file?01:08
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turkeyonmyfacewill do - if i can get it to work, i keep gettin 'unable to start' gui thing as soon as i go to log in01:09
after-9-coronasso theres not a free driver for ubuntu?01:09
danko123456turkey, windows, but, I cant get that right neiother for some reason.01:09
thr1ceafter-9-coronas, for what?01:09
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danko123456is your disk full?01:09
after-9-coronasmy linksys wmp54g wireless card01:09
danko123456stuffedturkeyface: is your hard disk full?01:09
danko123456lol01:09
turkeyonmyfaceno01:10
count0nzohhhh i cee01:10
danko123456lmao01:10
danko123456karl?01:10
thr1cei'm don't know, google probably does01:10
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danko123456you want apache to be at defaults?01:10
turkeyonmyfacei have bags of space, i think i am selecting the wrong video driver. but i don't know which one to select01:10
danko123456there is only 1 file for apache config, I dont know about apache2...:/01:10
thr1cehow is breezy running these days?01:11
after-9-coronasmaybe ill change back to fedora01:11
danko123456and it did , thr1ce01:11
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tjsIs there any work being done on making ubuntu work as a zen guest OS ?01:11
thr1ce:)01:11
PacoBCNWow, ages away from this channel01:11
danko123456I gave him a link, there is only a non free...which kinda defeats its purpose...01:11
karljpdanko: apache2 went and split httpd.conf into about 20 files and symlinks01:11
tjsI really need zen support in the ubuntu kernel01:11
karljpeither way, I'm not getting anything back when I reinstall apache201:11
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thr1cebecause you're not resetting your settings01:11
thr1cethere is NO .apache or anything?  that's strange; sorry, i've never used it :(01:12
danko123456karl, like...what?01:12
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danko123456karl, what? Split into 20 files the conf file? What is your objective? reset and start apache2 again?01:12
karljpyes01:12
danko123456wow...and an install dont do it?01:12
karljpwhat I would have expected dpkg -P apache2 ;; sudo apt-get install apache2 would have done01:13
karljpand no, it didn't01:13
karljplike I said the first time?01:13
thr1cewhat's with the, PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY01:13
danko123456just erase it...01:13
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thr1ceI thought they just put out the first dev CD01:13
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danko123456or remove through synaptic, apt or whatever, not dpkg??01:13
karljpso basically you have no clue?01:13
JormundgandI'm trying to install and use xfce but it doesn't appear under Sessions. What should I do?01:14
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thr1cenickrud, who added the don't use breezy to the topic?01:15
danko123456? about what? I told you, remove it...01:15
thr1ceme?01:15
danko123456Hey, um...:)01:15
nickrudthr1ce, I don't know, but it's because of c++, i hear01:15
thr1cei'm curious...is it that bad at the moment?01:15
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danko123456karl, I didnt explain it good?01:15
JormundgandI thought it was Qt.01:16
thr1cenickrud, aah; just curious, as they just put out the first dev CD01:16
nickrudthr1ce, I've been through several01:16
thr1cenickrud, several....?01:16
nickrud'transistions', and it's best to wait01:16
nickruddebian01:16
thr1ceooh, gotcha01:16
thr1cenickrud, damn, I was thinking of putting it on this computer01:16
danko123456karl, did you try, for example, apt-get remove apache2?01:17
nickrudthr1ce, your timing sucks, but it's just for fun ...01:17
danko123456with sudo...01:17
karljpso let me see, your instructs for resetting apache2 config to the defaults were...."I've never used apache2" "wow, install didn't do it" "use synaptic, not dpkg"01:17
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karljpso no, I don't think you explained anything very well.01:17
thr1cenickrud, how long do you think til they sort it out ?01:17
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dabaSlon_smkskarl, yea, just sudo apt-get remove apache2 , sorry, Im high, I thought it was clear....01:18
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karljpright.01:18
bluefoxicyalright.01:18
karljpbut that doesn't get rid of the config files01:18
karljpand if you remove them yourself, and install again, it doesn't create them either01:19
dabaSlon_smksSo, your Apache does what wrong when you install it back?01:19
nickrudthr1ce, I just got back, but last night someone mentioned a couple of days.01:19
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karljpif you're bent, go watch the carpet, don't try and give advice01:19
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Jet2k5guys is there a way to help ubunut out?  Like besdies giving them donations01:19
aboodguys how can i restart esd ?01:19
Jet2k5is there anything else that I can do to get involved?01:20
thr1cekillall esd01:20
dabaSlon_smksk, karl, go that...01:20
neighborleewhere do I get kernel source ?..uname shows 2.6.10-5-386 yet closest match in synatpic is 2.6.10-34 ...????01:20
thr1ceit'll restart itself when it needs to :)01:20
karljpgiven that #apache and #svn can't work out what's wrong with my apache, I find it extremely unlikely that you, bent, and never having used apache2 would be able to help me with the actual apache problems.01:20
thr1cesearch for "linux", you should be able to find it easily01:20
thr1cenickrud, eeeeer...I GUESS :)01:20
karljpI just want to know how to reinstall apache2 with the defaults from scratch01:20
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aboodthr1ce, thx01:20
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aboodthr1ce, r u sure that it will restart it self ?01:21
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sleptkarljp, dpkg -P  and install agian01:21
karljpyes, I did that01:21
karljpthat's what I said at the very beginning01:22
karljpit kept the original config01:22
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karljpand after rm'ing the apache2 directory (which contains nothing but config) it's not recreated on an install01:22
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sleptkarljp, dpkg --get-selections |grep apache , dpkg -P these then you shouldn't have configs left01:23
thr1ceabood, yeah, when you go to start an app that needs it, it'll start01:24
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gusto5hello everyone :)01:24
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karljpslept: ok, so right now, I went over dpkg's head, and rm'd the configs,01:25
thingfishI like ubuntu too, but as soon as I can order me a set of sarge cds, that's what I'm going to run.01:25
karljpand I want to know why installing it won't give me a default config again01:25
nickrudkarljp, are you using install --reinstall ?01:25
lotusleafthingfish, different strokes for different folks ;)01:26
thingfishlotusleaf: amen to that.01:26
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sleptkarljp, install again then purge01:26
thr1cei don't understand debian at all01:26
thr1cewhat is the latest (stable/unstable) ?01:26
lotusleafthingfish, that is, until trusted(borg)computing locks down the hardware :)01:27
japanloverwhat is the lib so that i can play MP3s???01:27
thr1cegstreamer01:27
thr1cesad01:27
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thingfishthr1ce: unstable is the latest, then testing, then stable.01:27
karljpapt-get install --reinstall apache2 still doesn't create an /etc/apache201:27
japanlovergstreamer?01:27
thr1cethingfish, sarge unstable, sid ?01:27
thr1ceI don't know what the latest is :(01:28
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thr1celol01:28
thingfishthr1ce: woody=stable, sarge=testing, sid=unstable.01:28
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karljpsarge is frozen and due to become a new stable "real soon now"01:28
thr1cethingfish, and they are on sid right now?01:28
thingfishI know!01:28
thr1ceooh, it is in sarge right now?01:29
japanloverwhat is the lib so that i can play MP3s???01:29
thr1cehow many CD's is it again?01:29
thingfishthr1ce: they are on all 3.01:29
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thr1cejapanlover, as I said, gstreamer-sad01:29
thingfishthr1ce: I don't know.01:29
japanloverthr1ce: kk -sad gotcha thanks01:29
thingfishjapanlover: gstreamer0.8-mad01:29
thr1cethingfish, I thought I read like 10 somewhere01:29
thingfishit's a lot of them.01:29
japanloverthingfish thanks01:29
thr1cethat's rediculous01:30
sleptkarljp, removing and --reinstall keeeps config , you can see with dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall for what you have left a config01:30
thingfishnp, japanlover.01:30
turkeyonmyfacehi nice people who like helping other folk - I have just installed ubuntu and i have the same error again, unable to start graphic interface, problem with x server.     I have  tried 3 times so far with glide, vga, and lastly nv. I have a g-force mx 4000 made by nvidia. HELP01:30
turkeyonmyfacewhat do i want as my x server01:30
thingfishjapanlover: you'll have to enable universe in your sources.list.01:30
turkeyonmyface?01:30
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japanloverthingfish: yea i did that01:31
karljpslept, no by remove, I mean remove.  dpkg -P apache2, see that the config is still there, then rm -rf /etc/apache201:31
thingfishturkeyonmyface: a geforce4 mx400 uses nv.01:31
japanloverthingfish, thanks again =)01:31
thr1ceupdatedb, then locate apache01:31
thr1ceget rid of it all01:31
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turkeyonmyfacethingfish, how come it fails to start the graphic interface?01:31
tarvidtrolling for vhcs support01:31
sleptkarljp, strange01:31
thingfishturkeyonmyface: it could be your monitor.01:32
tarvidany one have success?01:32
naliothtonights the night, boys!01:32
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thr1cenalioth, for?01:32
thingfishturkeyonmyface: ubuntu could be not finding your monitor correctly.01:32
turkeyonmyfaceo ok01:32
wobblermine either01:33
nalioththr1ce: what for?01:33
turkeyonmyfacei will try another monitor01:33
thr1cenalioth, do tell!01:33
nalioththr1ce: Revenge Of The Sith01:33
thr1cenalioth, I watched it last night01:33
sleptkarljp, did you make sure you purged all apache things01:33
thr1ce:)01:33
turkeyonmyfacei am tryin01:33
nalioththr1ce: that's nice, i woulda watched it last week, but they didnt have any charity screenings near me01:33
karljpslept: yeah01:33
thr1cenalioth, I work at a movie theater, so...01:33
turkeyonmyfacehow much space does ubuntu need to run smoothly?01:33
karljpnothing in dpkg --get-selections | grep dein for apache01:34
nalioththr1ce: ah, the other loophole01:34
thr1cenalioth, yup01:34
thr1cenalioth, you'll love it01:34
thingfishturkeyonmyface: I'd say an average install is around 1.6G.01:34
sleptkarljp, dpkg --get-selections | grep   apache ?01:34
naliothim so amped up about it01:34
thr1cenalioth, I think it was my favorite, actually; it's very dark, and connects the stories perfectly01:34
karljpyeah, removing apache2-common now01:34
karljpthis looks like it might do something a bit more useful01:35
turkeyonmyfacethingfish: Thanks01:35
thingfishnp turkeyonmyface.01:35
nalioththr1ce: yes thank you. no more now, cuz we don't want to spoil the unspoiled ones01:35
thingfishturkeyonmyface: that's not allowing for swap.01:35
thr1cenalioth, of course not (although you know everything that's going to happen anyways)01:35
turkeyonmyface1 more thing - anyone know how to change the x server without reinstalling ubuntu from scratch?01:36
nalioththr1ce: yes "I" know, cuz i chose to be 'spoiled'01:36
thr1cenalioth, well, if you have watched 2 and 4, you should knwo too01:36
thr1ceknow*01:36
nalioththr1ce: but knowing and seein in person are two very different things01:36
thr1cedefintely01:36
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japanloverwhat lib do i need to play WMVs?01:36
sleptturkeyonmyface, xorg --> xfree ? why ?01:37
thr1cejapanlover, search google, please...you can easily find all of these answers01:37
naliothjapanlover: win32 codecs01:37
naliothjapanlover: and some wmvs won't play, even then01:37
japanlovernalioth, thanks01:37
naliothjapanlover: say thank ya to uncle bill01:37
japanlovernalioth, umm sure01:37
japanloverthank ya to uncle bill01:37
thr1cenalioth, any idea if breezy's fixed yet?01:38
rj`anyway to burn svcd movies in ubuntu?01:38
turkeyonmyfaceslept: how do i run 'xorg'?01:38
thr1cesame way you ran xfree, with new names01:38
thr1ceand better performance, imo01:38
thingfishturkeyonmyface: if you have a gui, you're running xorg.01:39
turkeyonmyfacethe gui won't start01:39
a_monkeydoes "apt-get -b source [package] " install the package after building it?01:39
turkeyonmyfaceit fails01:39
sleptturkeyonmyface, do you use hoary ?01:39
thr1ceare .deb's easy to build from source?01:39
turkeyonmyfacewhats hoary?01:39
turkeyonmyfaceso i am thinking that i don't01:39
thingfishthr1ce: with alien they are.01:39
naliothbreezy will be usable (imho) when the ending of its version ends in "Release candidate 1"01:40
nalioththr1ce: yes they are01:40
thr1cenalioth, bah, you're no fun01:40
sleptturkeyonmyface, what version of ubuntu are you running01:40
nalioththr1ce: you don't need alien01:40
turkeyonmyfacewaer01:40
stuNNednalioth: that sounds like a plan...when rc1 is out..01:40
turkeyonmyfacewarty warthog01:40
count0nznalioth, lol i think he means have the G++ 4 uploading finished :)01:40
thr1cenalioth, never tried...I've ran slack for years, never tried to make a .deb01:40
nalioththr1ce: "apt-get source -b <pkgname>" will build you a nice deb01:41
egg|brokenhaha01:41
thr1cenalioth, are you serious?  that's so easy01:41
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nalioththr1ce: yes it is01:41
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thr1cenalioth, with slack, it was compile, destdir, strip libs, chown execs, gzip man pages, makepkg01:41
SQL_Samhey are there any picture ripper apps for linux?01:41
thr1ceso...apt-get gaim-1.3.0.tar.bz2 -b gaim-1.3.0.deb ?01:42
nalioththr1ce: so you'll have more time for pR0n, with apt-get01:42
hybrid_gothSQL_Sam: picture rippers?01:42
thr1cenalioth, was that correct ?01:42
SQL_Samfor web sites01:42
turkeyonmyfaceok, i can run the live version of ubuntu but when i install i get x server errors, whats this and why?01:42
turkeyonmyfaceok, i can run the live version of ubuntu but when i install i get x server errors, whats this and why?01:42
anto9usSQL_Sam: Have you tried the Print Scrn button?01:42
SQL_Samlol01:43
hybrid_gothSQL_Sam: wget01:43
nalioththr1ce: was what correct?01:43
thr1ceapt-get gaim-1.3.0.tar.bz2 -b gaim-1.3.0.deb01:43
thr1cefor example01:43
SQL_Samyes - i've seen them for windows was wondering if there was anything for linux?01:43
flex_turkeyonmyface, try  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:43
goldfishwith sudo01:43
nalioththr1ce: "sudo apt-get source -b gaim"01:43
hybrid_gothSQL_Sam: look in the src then use wget01:43
sleptturkeyonmyface, so you have xfree - you have nvidia did you install linux-restricted-modules an nvidia-glx01:43
sleptturkeyonmyface, what are your errors01:43
thr1cenalioth, that's assuming, that I have the gaim source in the pwd ?01:43
nalioththr1ce: pwd?01:44
thr1cenalioth, man pwd :)01:44
thr1cepresent working directory!01:44
nalioththr1ce: if you have your repositorys like they came with ubuntu, apt will d/l the source for whatever01:44
thr1ce / print working dir01:44
dabaSlon_smksSQL_Sam: likely if it is a useful thing01:44
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turkeyonmyfaceunable to start the graphic enviroment, because my x server is not set up correctly01:45
thr1cenalioth, well, I was thinking if I want a pack that isn't in repositories, but only available in source01:45
Anubisno gaim updates for ubuntu?01:45
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dabaSlonSQL_Sam: what does it do exactly?01:45
nalioththr1ce: if you compile yourself, use "checkinstall" instead of "make install", it will make you a nice deb01:45
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hybrid_gothlol01:45
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gusto5hello01:46
dabaSlonyo01:46
hybrid_gothhi01:46
thr1ceman, I thought there would be another way; checkinstall is sorta shifty01:46
gusto5can i ask how to run a tar.bz installer?01:46
egg|brokenhola01:46
hybrid_gothgusto5: un tar it01:46
dabaSlonit is a zip.01:46
thr1cenot a zip01:46
thr1ceit's an archive01:46
dabaSlonbah01:46
dabaSlonok, an "archive"01:46
gusto5got it :)01:46
gusto5thanks01:46
nalioththr1ce: i've been scanning this channel for a while, seeking how to get apt or dpkg to take up the building from outside source thing01:46
dabaSlonwelcome01:46
dabaSlonyoull have more questions:)01:47
thr1cetry to "unzip" a bz2 file01:47
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dabaSlonbzip01:47
nalioththr1ce: and i havent seen anything besides the 2 methods mentioned01:47
dabaSlongzip01:47
dabaSlonI cant type much01:47
nalioththr1ce: "bunzip2 <filenname.bz2>"01:47
sleptunp can handle them all01:47
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abooddoes any one tried redwall firewall ??01:47
Anubisoh well I hope the autopackage does not bork anything?01:47
thr1cenalioth, yes; or tar jxvf filename.tar.bz201:47
hybrid_gothnalioth: yea bunzip? heh01:48
dabaSlonabood: its not in synaptic, is it?01:48
pjhey hey01:48
pjwhat up01:48
AnubisThe following package was successfully installed:01:48
Anubis* Gaim Internet Messenger01:48
dabaSlonyo01:48
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pjsup01:49
pjwhere da ladies at??01:49
anto9usmy house01:49
naliothpj far from here01:49
pjreally now01:49
stuNNedlol nalioth01:49
dabaSlonhah, hotmail wants me to accept some certificate from microsoft lately, anyone else noticed that?01:49
dabaSlonI am never!!! gonna accept it...01:50
_simplehow easy is it to install kde and have a choice at startup between gnome and kde?01:50
pjthat fucking sucks01:50
dabaSlonJust in linux, too:)01:50
pjis that all u guys talk about01:50
pjcomputers01:50
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abooddabaSlon, nops01:50
dabaSlonhey, pj, whacha wanna talk bout?01:50
nalioth_simple: its simple01:50
_simpleeasy as an apt-get install command?01:50
pjnot comps tell you that much01:50
dabaSlonsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:50
turkeyonmyfacesorry people Windows being installed linux install posponed01:50
nalioth_simple: couldnt resist...install "kubuntu-desktop"01:50
pjlater guys01:51
dabaSlonpj, so, what then?01:51
_simplealright01:51
eruinpj: then try a non-os-related channel on a non-computer-relaated-in-general network ;-)01:51
dabaSlonwanna talk bout how computers suck?01:51
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stuNNed_simple: pretty easy, better yet  you can have gnome on tty7 and kde on tty8 and switch between the two with ctrl+alt+f7,ctrl+alt+f8 justs start a new kde session with gdm once logged into gnome01:51
_simplei think i did like kde3 last time01:51
thingfishhehe eruin01:51
_simpleand was saying over and over "can't connect to network kpersonalizer"01:51
dabaSlonstuNNed: nice...01:51
naliothstuNNed: howz that tty8 thang work?01:51
dabaSlon:)01:51
dabaSlonjust new login...01:51
dabaSlonAps>System01:52
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stuNNednalioth: not tty is it?01:52
_simplewhat do you guys run gnome or kde?01:52
_simplewhat do you like better :D01:52
dabaSlonI run gnome, it is default.01:52
eruinone word: gnome01:52
_simpleyeah01:52
anto9usgnome01:52
dabaSlonAnd, I like it more^_^01:52
_simplei was using kde for awhile01:52
_simpleand like..01:52
stuNNedgnome here, keep it simple st*pid01:52
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naliothstuNNed: ya lost me, i'm just a user01:52
eruingnome will have osX users feel more at home and kde will have windows users feel more at home01:52
dabaSlon_simple: there is a #kubuntu, ask there...01:52
_simplethe past few hours i'm taking a liking to gnome01:52
robertjsimple: don't end sentences in like01:53
_simplei'm not on kubuntu01:53
dabaSlonstuNNed: its the apps...01:53
robertjeruin: i'm a Mac user and that's not really true01:53
_simpleit was a transtion01:53
naliotheruin: i don't agree with gnome and osx similaritys01:53
_simpletansition*01:53
_simplewell01:53
_simpleadd the two together01:53
dabaSloneruin: yeah, a lot a ppl disagree, I agree, though,01:53
robertjjust because Gnome has a menu on the top doesn't make it like mac01:53
stuNNedgnome is nothing like osx imho01:54
dabaSlon_simple: add:)01:54
goldfishhow do i find out what chipset my wireless card is?01:54
dabaSlona lot of ppl say that, I find the same as eruin, though.01:54
anto9usI like the filesize view of konqueror, would be nice if nautilus had that01:54
dabaSlongoldfish: google works.01:54
stuNNedanto9us: nice01:54
goldfish:)01:54
dabaSlonstuffedturkeyface left the building...01:55
sleptgoldfish, lspci01:55
stuNNeddabaSlon: lol01:55
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drbwhy exactly should we not use breezy?01:56
sleptunstable01:56
dabaSlonI was totally lmao when I first said it, like, stuffedturkeyface: something...01:56
naliothdrb, cuz it may work today, but definitely won't work when you need it to01:56
naliothdrb: its still quite disjointed01:56
stuNNeddrb: because it is very early in development and undergoing significant changes atm that will hose your system?01:56
PacoBCNQuestion, guys. Any of you succeded trying to connect to a Yahoo with Gaim?01:56
naliothPacoBCN: i connect all the time to yahoo01:56
gusto5question again. where is firefox initially installed?01:56
dabaSlondrb: cause why would you want to?01:57
dabaSlondoes your comp work for everything?01:57
PacoBCNnalioth, mine doesn't allow me at all :(01:57
drbheh.  well, I run debian unstable now.  would that be comperable?01:57
dabaSlonPacoBCN: yeah...01:57
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thingfishgusto5: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox01:57
PacoBCNnow it just crashed :(01:57
drbfor example, I want to use inkscape 0.41, which is only in breezy, and not in backports01:57
dabaSlonPacoBCN: you sure everything is correct?01:57
naliothPacoBCN: huh...01:57
gusto5thanks, thingfish :)01:57
thingfishnp gusto501:58
naliothdrb, nope01:58
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dabaSlondrb: just install that program...01:58
dabaSlonupdate, install, revert, update.01:58
PacoBCNthere is an error message saying: The Authentification method failed.01:58
nickruddrb, if you were around for the c102 transition, you'll wait :)01:58
drbnalioth: okidoky.  :)  Can't I set up preferences for hoary, but include the breezy repo?01:58
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karljpdaba: for anything built against libc, that will fail MISERABLY01:58
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naliothdrb, that will get you breezy01:59
drbheh.  okay, I'll be patient, I guess.  :)01:59
screamzupdated to hoary, finaly01:59
dabaSlondrb: change sources to breezy, update, install program, revert sources, update...01:59
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_simplewhat gnome themes are we all using these days02:00
gusto5thingfish. you know how i can install 1.04 firefox to replace 1.0202:00
naliothdrb: what dabaSlon sez will work, but watch out for breakage02:00
dabaSlonof what, if he just installs, but, maybe, Im a newbie02:00
drbOkay.  I thought there was a way to get around it.  I used to pull experimental packages while staying with unstable on Debian02:00
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naliothdabaSlon: i don't know whats involved with what he wants, what if some system-critial lib is upgraded and the hoary doesnt like it?02:01
dabaSlonwell, I told you...Oh, right, dependencies.02:01
dabaSlonkk02:01
drbnalioth: yeah, I'd watch for deps02:01
dabaSlonkkk, in fact:O02:01
thingfishgusto5: well, of course one can always download it from mozilla.org and do it manually, but that's not what you want.02:02
dabaSlontry to just apt-get install -d and see what is involved.02:02
dabaSlon-d download02:02
drbyup02:02
anto9usdrb: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PinningHowto may help02:02
drbanto9us: cool, thanks02:02
naliothdrb, its your baby02:02
drbnalioth: heh.  :)02:02
dabaSlonanto9us: nice02:03
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dabaSlonhah, gusto left, I knew his answer,02:04
XiraWow02:04
dabaSlonits on forums, someone said...02:04
dabaSlonthe02:04
XiraI just got a package that has 15 Copies of Ubuntu CDS02:04
XiraI didn't know they were free.02:04
XiraI thought I had to pay shipping02:04
dabaSlon:)02:04
XiraO_O02:04
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dabaSlonunlike Comcast...02:05
dabaSlon:)02:05
wayne54026:)02:05
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dabaSlonim out.02:05
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tjsis there any info/howto type docs about creating custom ubuntu based distros?02:06
naliothmicrosoft honeymonkeys02:07
naliothwhat will they come up with next?02:07
tjsI want to create a very cut-down ubuntu-based distro with an installer that skips the package selection stage and just installs a pre-defined set of packages02:08
PacoBCNOk, guys, huge favor. Any of you know any free dns server I could use. The ones given by my isp suck!02:08
goldfish#ubuntu-dev maybe a better place to ask ? tjs02:08
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EtherNethello guys02:09
tjscheers02:09
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gusto5hello02:09
anto9usgoldfish: I was just about to suggest the same thing :)02:09
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EtherNetis there a way to switch from a base debian installed.... to ubuntu through apt for e.g. ?02:09
goldfish:)02:09
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EtherNetby changing apt sources to ubuntu's ... and doing an apt-get dist-upgrade02:09
EtherNetby changing apt sources to ubuntu's ... and doing an apt-get dist-upgrade would work ?02:09
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goldfishhmmm...02:10
goldfishI think someone did it from plain debian02:10
gusto5can i ask another qusetion?02:10
goldfishasj as many as you like02:10
anto9usgusto5: you just did, but don't worry, you've not used them up ;)02:10
goldfishit's what the channel is for02:10
gusto5ok. i just installed firefox 1.0402:10
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gusto5lol anto9us02:11
gusto5how do i run it?02:11
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gusto5installed to /var/lib/mozilla-firefox02:11
thr1ceif they could keep a semi-stable pre-release, I would run ubuntu02:11
_simpleman..how do i edit the menu bar?02:11
_simpleadd or remove stuff in it, and change the icons in it :/02:12
gusto5anyone still here? Lol :P02:12
XiraHey guys02:12
Xiralook02:12
Xirahttp://synchronizedesigns.us/ubuntu/02:12
XiraI didn't know they paid for shipping too02:12
Xiraso nice of em..02:12
anto9usgusto5: doesn't it run from your menu?02:12
_simplewhen i downloaded firefox 1.0.4 it didn't work02:12
_simpleyeah Xiraq02:12
_simpleXira: i ordered like 5 cds yesterday ^^02:13
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gusto5anto9us, it only runs 1.0.202:13
gusto5the one that comes with 5.0402:13
gusto5ubuntu02:13
_simplewith some hot chicks on the cover and all02:13
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XiraI ordered these awhile ago02:14
_simplehow long ago would you say?02:14
Xiracompletely forgot about them actually02:14
Xirathought shipping wasnt free02:14
_simplelol02:14
_simpleyeah i read it was02:14
anto9uswell, I think, there's a simlink in your bin directory, you need to replace it but it's not an exercise I've carried out02:14
_simpleeverything completely free02:14
gusto5a what?02:14
_simplei was expecting a few cd-rs...02:14
_simplebut those are looking pretty n ice02:14
anto9usgusto5: a shortcut02:14
_simplecase and all02:14
Xirathe cds have shiny labels on them too02:15
XiraReally nice02:15
anto9usgusto5: although, it may run from a script, I'm not sure, there may be further help in the release notes, have you read them?02:15
_simpleprofessional stuff02:15
gusto5anto9us, they confuse me. thats why im here :)02:15
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extremehi02:16
anto9usgusto5: well, if I'd done it I may be able help but I've not bothered upgrading it yet02:16
_simplebut yeah, i had trouble with that gusto5  so i was recommended in using apt-get02:17
_simplewhich the only thing there is 1.0.3 not updated yet02:17
XiraHey guys, check it out, added 2 more pics of the actual cds: http://synchronizedesigns.us/ubuntu/02:17
_simpleso i'm waiting for it to add getting it from there02:17
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_simplebadass02:18
nalioth_simple: as linux users we are less subseptible to the exploits that plague our windoze (l)using brethren02:18
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nalioth_simple: when the devs get it in the security updates, it will come02:18
gusto5_simple, do i run apt-get from terminal, or somewhere else?02:18
goldfishguys02:18
_simpleyeah i know02:18
_simpleso i'm waiting...?02:18
nalioth_simple: until then, use "useragentswitcher" for your mozdev d/l goodness02:19
goldfishonce u dont run windows those firefox exploits cant really harm you02:19
thr1cei wish ubuntu would just upgrade software, and not just patch; ie- add firefox-1.0.4, instead of firefox-1.0.202:19
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computerguy867what could be a reason that totem knows it has plugins while running under all other users and root except one user02:20
thr1cewill new firefox allow you to enter mozilla extensions/themes?  it'll only let one if they run 1.0.4; does it detect it on ubuntu?02:20
momanHow come ubuntu doesn't recognize my DVD ROM?  HL-DT-ST GDR8082N DVD ROM02:20
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nalioththr1ce: use "useragentswitcher" or text edit your version #02:21
_simpleoh so that's what useragentswitcher does?02:21
_simplefake the latest version?02:21
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thr1cenalioth, why doesn't ubuntu just add 1.0.4?!  and gaim 1.3.0 should be updated, but wasn't, if I recall02:21
thr1ceas they had a security flaw02:21
nalioththr1ce: i'm not a dev, and have no clue02:22
resiakthr1ce: The security fixes will be backported.02:22
_simplebeen out for a few weeks atleast though right?02:22
computerguy867under one user it gives an error saying that the plugin is not installed(for all plugins)02:22
thr1cei wish they would update the software, and not just patch the security holes02:22
resiakthr1ce: Then run the unstable branch (currently Breezy). The whole _point_ of having a stable version is that what you dislike happens.02:23
_simpledoes mozilla have a repository to add to install from?02:23
PacoBCNno ones feels like sharing his dns server with me?02:23
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thr1ceresiak, breezy seems so unstable though...i'm used to a really stable pre-release02:23
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resiakthr1ce: Well then go run Debian Testing :)02:23
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nalioththr1ce: breezy is not yet to "pre-release" stage02:24
BrettMeisterHi, folks.02:24
thr1ceresiak, i wish they would stablalize ubuntu pre-releases, as opposed to just tearing them apart02:24
nalioththr1ce: breezy is there for peeps with 2 machines to work with02:24
thr1cewill breezy run non-final software?  such as...gnome 2.11 ?02:24
BrettMeisterWill someone tell me how to install a .deb package from this cd that I have?02:24
resiakthr1ce: Then go run Debian Testing.02:24
nalioththr1ce: one for stable OS and t'other for testing breezy02:24
resiakBrettMeister: dpkg -i ?02:24
bpuccioBrettMeister: sudo dpkg -i file.deb02:24
kiwnixnalioth, not necessary, if you know a bit of package management (pining packages and so on)02:25
BrettMeisterbpuccio: Thanks.  Where you have "file" actually put the file name there?02:25
thr1ceBrettMeister, of course02:25
BrettMeisterthr1ce: Thanks.02:25
drbif I'm on hoary, and I add the backports apt repo, after apt-get update, shouldn't I see firefox 1.04 listed in a apt-get install?02:26
drbI must have done something wrong...02:26
Madcat_Are there any known/open issues regarding massive memory leakage in gnome ?02:27
Madcat_For several times already, memory usage seems to be eating into swap heavily ...02:27
JairunCalothI have an app that needs the path to firefox, but i can't friken find firefox02:28
gusto5ok back again with more question02:28
thr1cewhereis firefox02:28
Madcat_after 5 days uptime, I was at 500mb swap usage (1gb physical ram) ... now after 2 days uptime, I'm again at ~300mb swap usage :o02:28
thr1cewhereis mozilla-firefox02:28
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JairunCalothahh thanks02:28
CineI assume I don't want to install the firefox update to my /home directory, right?02:28
Madcat_firefox using 167mb res / 312mb virt memory ... doesn't sound normal ...02:29
toresbethr1ce: uhm, let me just tell you - breezy is completely completely unstable.02:29
Madcat_xorg using 127mb res / 225mb virt :o02:29
toresberesiak! :)02:29
resiaktoresbe!02:29
thr1cetoresbe, that bad?02:29
toresbeyou're here too :)02:29
resiaktoresbe: You've not seen me in here before?02:29
toresbethr1ce: No, that's good, very good.02:29
toresberesiak: oddly, no02:29
anto9usMadcat_: My guess would be that it's not cleared the swap because it hasn't needed to02:29
resiaktoresbe: Oh.02:29
thr1cetoresbe, no, it's tha tbad?02:29
toresbethr1ce: it's a good thing because it's not supposed to be stable02:30
resiaktoresbe: I've seen you.02:30
toresbethat's why it's called unstable02:30
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Madcat_anto9us: strange ... I never noticed such things back when I was using gentoo/kde ...02:30
toresbethr1ce: not for another few months!02:30
gusto5does anyone know why when i run firefox 1.0.4 install, i get errors with some .xpi files?02:30
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SantaOnehi02:30
toresbethr1ce: "PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY" -the topic02:30
Madcat_anto9us: I often had up to 30-day uptimes, w/o eating that heavily into swap ...02:30
XiraI donated 200$ to Ubuntu02:30
Xira:D02:30
thr1cetoresbe, yes, I know...I expected it to be usable though02:30
toresbethr1ce: don't :)02:31
thr1cei'm giving up on ubuntu02:31
toresbethr1ce: this isn't Debian - things move *quickly* here :)02:31
resiakthr1ce: Use Debian!02:31
toresbethr1ce: The stable release of Ubuntu has software that is more up-to-date than Debian Unstable.02:31
toresbethat says much about both Ubuntu and Debian.02:31
Madcat_I'd imagine this memory issue might be because gnome/gtk are using C, and C apps tend to use some really wierd memory management techniques ... while KDE/QT being C++, with (nearly) automatic memory management.02:32
Xirahttp://synchronizedesigns.us/ubuntu/02:32
Xirapurdyyyyy02:32
Xira:o02:32
Cineneed a little help installing the firefox update...  where do I need to install it?  it defaults to the location of the installer itself, but thats my desktop and seems like a bad idea...02:32
naliothkiwnix: most folks don't have a clue about pinning02:32
gusto5621=An Installer module %s (.xpi) failed to install02:33
gusto5how come i get that, anyone?02:33
thr1cehm...can I take bits and pieces from breezy safely?02:33
thr1celike...gaim, firefox, etc. ?02:33
thingfishCine: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox is where the "old" one is installed.02:33
SantaOneSorry for the offtopic-question:  Is there anyone from the USA ?  I am going to fly to the USA in the next time,  and the cheapest destination is Orlando.  So I try to find a VERY cheap way to travel from Orlando to Los Angeles (maybe by Bus or train?)  what is the cheapest way?02:33
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thr1cei mean, if I want to run the latest gaim all the time, what's the best way ?02:34
naliothSantaOne: the bus would be the cheapest02:34
naliothSantaOne: if you can make advanced arrangements, you might get a flight cheaper, but that takes some planning02:34
thingfishSantaOne: I bet you can almost get an airplane ticket for what train would cost.02:35
Cineah, thanks thingfish... is that where I need to put the new one?02:35
thingfishCine: sorry, can't advise you on that, it would involve overwriting existing files and I don't want to advise that.02:35
thingfishbus would be cheapest, if you can stand the discomfort.02:36
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karljpand factor in the costs of a 3 day bus ride in food from orlando to la02:36
haydenhow can i change the computer name02:36
Cinehm... maybe uninstall the old firefox package first?02:36
karljpif they even get there in 3 days02:36
foxinessXira, awesome :)02:36
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foxinesshayden, i think if u install gtweak or something like that02:37
haydenfoxiness, im only running xfce02:37
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hans_how do i install games with cedega? i installed the prog but cant install games...any help?02:38
foxinesshayden, say that on your q :) than02:38
HrdwrBoBhans_: #cedega, http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php02:38
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thingfishhans_: maybe the people in #cedega can be of more help.02:38
hans_thx02:39
gusto5great :D02:39
gusto5i lost my firefox too :S02:39
foxinessXira, is all of this for u q:02:39
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SantaOnethingfish: where can I get such a cheao ticket?  The cheapest I found was about 130 Dollar  (Orlando - Los Angeles [one way] )02:40
foxinessgusto5, install it again :)02:40
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gusto5foxiness, i lost it trying to install a new one lol02:40
gusto5how do i get the old 1.0.2 back?02:40
gusto5or even, install 1.0.4?02:40
_simpledamn the intel915gv chip onboardgraphics suck02:40
SantaOnenalioth: how can I find out how much such a bus ticket costs, please?02:40
_simplea screensaver runs like crap02:40
_simplea damn screensaver02:40
egg|brokenmmm02:40
foxinessgusto5, apt-get install firefox02:41
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gusto5E; COuldnt find firefox package :S02:41
foxinessgusto5, or if u want try something new install firefox.package - autopackage02:41
SantaOnegusto5   mozilla-firefox02:42
thr1cesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox02:42
thr1cemozilla-firefox02:42
foxinessgusto5, apt-get install mozilla-firefox02:42
gusto5sec. gotta delete all the messed up junk first02:42
SantaOnethingfish, nalioth?02:42
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JairunCalothso this other application wants to launch firefox, but for some reason every path to anything firefox I set dosn't work...02:44
gusto5foxiness, it says "mozilla-firefox is already the newest version"02:44
thr1cereinstall it02:45
gusto5thats what it says when im trying to reinstall....02:45
foxinessgusto5, synaptic will help u02:45
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raphaHi all!02:46
raphaIs there something like artsdsp for ESound?02:46
foxinessho rapha02:46
usynicrapha: esdplay02:46
raphausynic: thx02:46
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usynicer...02:46
garnertrevening all02:46
usynicesddsp02:46
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JormundgandXfce is amazing. I love it.02:47
foxinesshttp://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/autopackage/ , did any one try to install last firefox from here "autopackage"02:47
garnertrQuestion, if I have a Pentium 4 laptop and install (just for giggles) i386 distro version, can that cause "issues" hardware? software?02:47
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deuce86827 :-)02:47
garnertrold enough to remember when MTV first came out02:47
gusto5yea! foxiness you rock :)02:47
usynicgarnertr: nope.02:47
raphausynic: Hmm I tried that ... still no sound in Quake 302:47
JormundgandBut when I try to run Synaptic I get the box saying "insert password to use synaptic" and instead of letters typing anything gives boxes with hex in.02:48
garnertrnuts02:48
tizzzHey guys, I can't seem to get X to start... And when I apt-get dist-upgrade it tells me x-window-system-core has been kept back... I think that might be my problem... I just updated a ton of packages and now can't get it to get that to work. Anyone able to help me?02:48
kaniLiveCDhybrid_goth,  old enough to believe I am sexy :o02:48
usynicrapha: I'd kill esd and use dmix.  esd is the devil.02:48
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i tell which version of gcc i have?02:48
foxinessgusto5, is this true ;q02:48
hybrid_gothkaniLiveCD: heh thats old :P02:48
kaniLiveCD:P02:48
tizzzBROKEN_LADDER: gcc -v in a terminal02:48
gusto5i got 1.0.2 back02:48
raphausynic: What synaptic package is that in?02:48
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gusto5through synaptic02:48
foxinessgusto5, great to hear that :)02:48
garnertrI also remember when there was no such thing as cable tv and cell phones02:48
gusto5now to figure out how to get 1.0.402:49
usynicrapha: it's not in any package... it's just a configuration option for alsa02:49
gusto5which everyone seems to not get :S02:49
tizzzBROKEN_LADDER: if you have hoary, you should have 4.002:49
raphausynic: So I have to recompile ALSA?02:49
tizzzuh02:49
tizzzsorry02:49
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BrettMeisterHow do I get my cd to eject?  Eject with the drop down menu just gives me an error message.02:49
tizzzi have breezy02:49
BROKEN_LADDERit says gcc not found.02:49
tizzzi don't know02:49
deuce868garnertr: how did we live without cell phones? I can't seem to remember...and the net...what's a phone book?02:49
tizzzBROKEN_LADDER then you don't have it installed.02:49
BROKEN_LADDERoh jesus02:49
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thr1cetizzz, how is breezy working?02:49
foxinessgusto5, if u want to try something "maybe with trublesome" and easy way try this http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/autopackage/02:49
garnertrInternet?  hell everything was Bulletin Board... remember Ascii Express?02:49
usynicrapha: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly <-- the asound.conf part is dmix02:50
tizzzthr1ce: well... good except i can't get into X right now... It was awesome till right now. lol02:50
raphausynic: thx02:50
BROKEN_LADDERafter installing a different linux kernel, will i have to reconfigure grub?02:50
deuce868tizzz: saw some stuff about font paths messed up in breezy upgrade02:50
thr1cetizzz, why would X have been updated... ?02:50
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deuce868tizzz: in the forums02:50
foxinessgusto5, but u must before that uninstall firefox first that try this package02:50
tizzzdeuce868: ahhh... Since I'm in console, I can't get google to work as well as usual. thanks02:51
thr1celynx!02:51
goldfishlol02:51
foxinessthat - than02:51
deuce868tizzz: letme see if I can get a link for you02:51
tizzzi'm using it02:51
tizzzlynx02:51
hybrid_gothBROKEN_LADDER: i am listenin to gene for suicide now :D02:51
tizzzbut its not the best way to google something correctly02:51
tizzzthanks deuce86802:51
BROKEN_LADDERcool.  i saw that you signed up.02:51
thr1cebbiab02:51
BROKEN_LADDERi'm about to go play an open mic.02:51
foxinesstizzz, ping www.google.com02:51
deuce868tizzz: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3514302:51
tizzzfoxiness why?02:52
foxinesstizzz, for fun :)02:52
tizzzok.. 44ms02:52
hybrid_gothBROKEN_LADDER: yea i havent got around to postin but ill get there :D where are you playin?02:52
tizzzdeuce868 thanks02:52
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BROKEN_LADDERa place called Canvas Cafe near golden gate park.02:53
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hybrid_gothBROKEN_LADDER: well good luck02:53
garnertrthat blows, still can't get this distro to recognize my dvdrom drive... sigh... :)02:53
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hybrid_gothBROKEN_LADDER: now fingerprint02:53
BROKEN_LADDERcan anyone tell me what i have to do after changing my kernel?02:54
BROKEN_LADDERfingerpaint02:54
BROKEN_LADDERthat's way old.02:54
hybrid_gothyea paint:D02:54
raphausynic: Still no sound. It always says something about not being able to open /dev/dsp. All other apps have sound.02:54
usynicrapha: did you killall esd ?02:54
raphaSure02:54
xMaximexDoes anyone know a opensource alternative to microsoft visio ?02:54
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deuce868xMaximex: dia02:55
usynicrapha: lsof /dev/dsp02:55
hybrid_gothxMaximex: whats visio?02:55
raphausynic: empty prompt returned02:55
deuce868xMaximex: not as nice, but works out ok for most things02:55
foxinesshybrid_goth, the same q :)02:55
xMaximexdeuce868: okay02:55
usynicrapha: you have the oss emulation modules loaded?02:55
BROKEN_LADDERi once changed a settings file so that grub would boot up at a higher resolution.  anyone know what that file is called?02:55
kaniLiveCDI have a question... whats kubuntu? :o02:55
tizzzdeuce868 Very helpful, thanks.. I will be online from x soon i hope02:55
JormundgandBut when I try to run Synaptic I get the box saying "insert password to use synaptic" and instead of letters typing anything gives boxes with hex in. What do I need? What am I missing?02:55
hybrid_gothkaniLiveCD: ubuntu with kde02:55
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foxinesskaniLiveCD, kubuntu02:56
raphausynic: snd_pcm_oss, snd_mixer_oss are loaded02:56
jesse_How do I upgrade my current horray release to the development version?02:56
foxinesskaniLiveCD, #kubuntu02:56
raphausynic: running QIII as root doesn't help either02:56
limerhmmm, w32codecs removed?02:56
hybrid_gothkaniLiveCD: and we are tryin to start UbuntuX ubuntu with xfce02:56
kaniLiveCDbut is it another distribution or is the same ubuntu?02:56
usynicrapha: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp02:56
hybrid_gothkaniLiveCD: another distro but still from conical02:56
kvidellthat's not nice :-P02:56
usynicrapha: do you get static?02:56
foxinesskaniLiveCD, did u like kde or gnome if u like gnome way no diff else yes02:57
BrettMeisterA cd that is in my cdrom will not eject.  Still mounted somehow?02:57
raphausynic: Although now I get a little more verbose output: "Could not mmap dma buffer PROT_WRITE|PROT_READ" then "/dev/dsp: Input/output error" then "Could not mmap /dev/dsp"02:57
raphausynic: Yes, hearing static02:57
usynicrapha: hrmm.02:57
deuce868anyone know a good visual svn tool?02:58
jesse_How do I upgrade to the development release,  what exactly do i add/change in the /etc/apt/sources.list ??02:58
JormundgandWhen I try to run Synaptic I get the box saying "insert password to use synaptic" but instead of letters typing anything gives boxes with hex in. What do I need? What am I missing?02:58
hybrid_gothjesse_: if you dont know how to you dont need to02:58
raphausynic: Hey, got it! I just started esd as myself and used esddsp --map then to prefix quake3 and now it works!02:58
raphaThanks man!02:58
usynicnp02:59
jesse_hybrid_goth, I just don't know what the servers are to change it to.02:59
jesse_hybrid_goth, I am very familar with debian you'd just change the stable to unstable and update apt.02:59
raphausynic: Just so slow now that it is unplayable :-/02:59
hybrid_gothjesse_: it is the same just change hoary to breezy but not sugested02:59
jesse_hybrid_goth, So before you go and tell me what I am not able to do,  perhaps you just answer me quesiton.  And if yo udon't want to answer my question shut up.  And if you continue to feel the need to talk people down,  perhaps you should go to a channel that's not meant to support people.02:59
hybrid_gothjesse_: but do as you plz02:59
jesse_hybrid_goth, Thank you.02:59
count0nzjesse_, just change horey to breezy02:59
xMaximexdeuce868: dia seems good, but can't create house plan02:59
crimsun_rapha: you'd be better off killing esd prior to playing quake303:00
raphacrimsun_: Then I get no sound at all03:00
deuce868XMaximex: There is some type of KDE program you might try. Think it's kivio or something...never tried it03:00
crimsun_rapha: cat /proc/asound/modules03:00
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hybrid_gothjesse_: well if you cant look at an easy ubuntuguide page maybe you need to shut up and use your out dated dabian03:00
xMaximexokay03:00
raphacrimsun_:03:00
rapha0 snd_via82xx03:00
rapha1 snd_bt87x03:00
hybrid_gothjesse_: your welcome03:00
jesse_hybrid_goth, I just speant the last 15 minutes reading the Ubuntu site and didn't see anything obvious.03:00
garnertrget em... :) har hra03:01
crimsun_hybrid_goth: / jesse_: chill, please03:01
jesse_hybrid_goth, Does it make you feel big and powerful to talk people down?03:01
crimsun_no need to be hostile03:01
hybrid_gothjesse_: hmm and you came from debian?03:01
jesse_crimsun_, He started the hostility.03:01
garnertrok, wish kanl was here, he was helping me w/ my dvd issue fr last night... sigh... stinking Centrinio...03:01
crimsun_jesse_: then don't "stoop"03:01
BROKEN_LADDERkaniLiveCD kubuntu is like ubuntu only sucky03:01
raphajeronim: C'mon is this 1st grade kindergarden school... "he started no he"?03:01
count0nz:)03:01
hybrid_gothjesse_: does it make you feel smooth to try it be the "good" guy03:01
count0nzi love you03:02
deuce868garnertr: centrino here with no probs...what's not working?03:02
jesse_hybrid_goth, No.  But if someone says something about what I can and cannot do I am apt to correct them.03:02
garnertrhmm; my internel dvd/cdr drive, this current rendition is not 'seeing' the drive03:02
BROKEN_LADDERi wish there was a way to add padding to a panel, so that launchers wouldn't stretch to the edge of it.03:02
crimsun_rapha: have you tweaked the module parameters for snd-pcm-oss?03:02
garnertrIt's in my bios SM-MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-81103:02
raphacrimsun_: no. To what should I tweak them to, and where?03:02
deuce868garnertr: I'm guess it installed fine from this drive?03:02
crimsun_rapha: modinfo snd-pcm-oss03:02
raphacrimsun_: Lotsa stuff returned03:03
garnertrwell actually no it didn't, it got to the point where it was detecting cd-rom and it died, wouldn't get past that point, so I used my super multi rw dvd by LG and installed (USB External)03:03
hybrid_gothjesse_: now look does this make sense. someone comes in asking how to upgrade to something unstable by ubuntu means not debian that is meant for developers and such not ppl that cant even upgrade03:03
crimsun_rapha: look at the nonblock_open and dsp_map options03:03
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garnertrdsmeg:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/HbXQ0s70.html03:04
deuce868garnertr: only thing I can say is that I had a similiar prob on a desktop, would detect in bios but not boot to it. I had a bad IDE cable in it03:04
raphaparm:           nonblock_open:Don't block opening busy PCM devices.03:04
hybrid_gothrapha: lol its not first grade03:04
crimsun_hybrid_goth: he left, so please let it rest03:04
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garnertrls /dev:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/h2DxXz86.html03:04
raphaparm:           dsp_map:PCM device number assigned to 1st OSS device.03:04
hybrid_gothcrimsun_: w/e03:04
raphacrimsun_: I see them, what do I set them to?03:05
Marble2where are the files for the gnome-panel stored?03:05
Marble2like .desktop files03:05
garnertrHMMMMMMM now that is interesting, but then why only multiple distros not see it?  RH Fedora sees it w/ no problem, and Windows (2k, xp) no problem, could it be that simple though?03:05
crimsun_rapha: 1 and 0, respectively03:05
raphacrimsun_: Okay, "sudo modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss nonblock_open=1 dsp_map=0", right?03:05
crimsun_rapha: correct03:05
deuce868garnertr: sorry, not a ton of help...if other distros see it then I would guess prolly not your prob03:06
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raphacrimsun_: Okay, tried that, still nothing03:06
hybrid_gothgarnertr: prolly a driver issue03:06
crimsun_rapha: did you echo the correct values into /proc for q3.x86?03:06
stevegulahey guys, pretend i modified my sources.list file and didn't back it up.. what package can I dig it out of?03:06
crimsun_rapha: those values can be found on alsa.opensrc.org03:06
raphacrimsun_: I heard this could halt your machine03:06
garnertrNo, good effort Deuce, I've been banging my head against my desk on this one, but I believe its my own laptop problem; I don't want to run windoze, but its fun trying to get this Alienware, system work... :)03:06
garnertrdriver issue eh?03:07
deuce868stevegula: get a new sources file from someone running the same stuff03:07
crimsun_rapha: what, those /proc values? That'd be a fairly critical bug in the kernel.03:07
stevegulahm. anyone here running hoary A64?03:07
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raphacrimsun_: Okay, so you mean the "echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss" and "echo "quake3.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss" stuff?03:07
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crimsun_rapha: yep.03:08
raphaOkay, I'll give it a shot.03:08
garnertrshucky-darn... wish it would work, I'd hate to have to go back to the MAN to get my dvd to work... but then for giggles, I'll change that drive cable, maybe it is random luck that it worked when I thought it worked.. but it can't hurt03:09
hybrid_gothbrb03:09
garnertrsince this is a laptop, Alienware, could my drive be scsi?  Or would it more likely be ide (hdd primary and dvd/cdrom secondary?)??03:10
deuce868garnertr: your bios should tell you what it's on.. IDE primary, slave and such03:10
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g14garnertr: Alienware doesn't put scsi drives in laptops03:11
Marble2Why does this .desktop file not work placed in /usr/share/applications http://nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=40249 I refreshed the gnome-panel...03:11
garnertrthanks03:12
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garnertryeah...thanks, that makes sense...banging head, its tired...03:12
raphacrimsun_: Okay, it works in the menu, but as soon as you try to get into a game it very reliable locks the machine cold.03:12
crimsun_rapha: update to the version in alsa-source, then03:13
raphacrimsun_: I don't quite understand?03:13
hybrid_gothback03:13
crimsun_rapha: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential alsa-source03:14
crimsun_(you need universe)03:14
raphaOkay03:14
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garnertrahhhhhh03:14
limertrying to run glxgears:  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:14
limerxorg.conf shows loading dri and glx03:14
garnertrvery tired today, not thinking clearly, been late working... :)  I'm hoping that maybe I had a possible bad burn from the iso, so I'm re-downloading the ISO right now...re-burn it @ a slower rate, maybe that will work03:15
crimsun_limer: what video card?03:15
Anubiscan dri and glx be used at the same time?03:15
limercrimsun_, I think I see my prob03:15
limerbrb03:15
crimsun_Anubis: on certain drivers, yes03:16
crimsun_Nvidia's one of the exceptions03:16
AnubisI wondered about that03:16
limercrimsun_, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:16
Anubisdoes dri provide faster FPS?03:16
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crimsun_limer: you did that?03:16
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limercrimsun_, just now :P03:17
crimsun_limer: good03:17
limercrimsun_, Q though03:17
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limerhow do I restart x without the machine?03:17
limerctl+alt+backspace?03:17
deuce868limer: control alt backspace03:17
limerwoot03:17
crimsun_limer: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart03:17
limerI'm hot tonight :P03:17
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hybrid_gothlimer: he03:17
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crimsun_ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't shut it down cleanly03:18
limerI see03:18
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crimsun_it's preferable only as a last resort03:18
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MahlWhats the command into making a bunch of files into an ISO file?03:18
crimsun_Mahl: man mkisofs03:18
kestasmkisofs03:18
limercrimsun_, I will issue your suggested command03:18
^thehatsrule^i always use that 3 button salute :P03:18
benplautpresident of ATI03:18
MahlI know its mkisofs...but theres thousands of options03:18
hybrid_gothah03:18
MahlI just want to make a SIMPLE iso :P03:18
hybrid_gothbenplaut: what card do you have03:18
kestasMahl: try gnome-baker03:18
kestasMahl: or read the manual03:19
kestasdoes anyone know how to make the java sdk into a .deb package?03:19
benplauthybrid_goth: mobile radeon 750003:19
kestasSeveas told me the other day, but I didnt get it down03:19
deuce868kestas: I think libranet has an .deb for it if you can get it03:19
hybrid_gothbenplaut: ah i have the default card for the ibook g3 and it works03:19
kestasokay thanks Ill take a look03:19
raphaOh, does somebody have that problem that always when you try to print from a GNOME application that application then crashes?03:20
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crimsun_Mahl: presuming you have a subdir foo/ containing the files, % mkisofs -o foo.iso -R -J foo/03:20
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hybrid_gothrapha: you got cups workin?03:20
F0CUShey, can someone help me please03:20
crimsun_Mahl: be careful with -R and -J (rock ridge and joliet)03:21
F0CUSmy sound is messed up, everything sounds really crappy....03:21
hybrid_gothF0CUS: / topic Just ask03:21
raphahybrid_goth: Printing from OpenOffice works flawlessly, as does the CUPS test page03:21
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hybrid_gothrapha: hmm but only gnome progs crash03:21
raphahybrid_goth: yes... gedit, abiword, gnumeric...03:22
raphatomboy..03:22
hybrid_gothrapha: ok is cups set up to interact with gnome?03:22
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hybrid_gothcan you play bzflag if you are in text mode03:22
chrissturmnow that the cxx transition is done, any more reasons not to use breezy?03:23
raphahybrid_goth: I got no idea. This is a fresh Ubuntu install in regards to printing. Except that I added my printer through System > Administration > Printing of course03:23
crimsun_chrissturm: who said it was done?03:23
hybrid_gothrapha: it seems like cups is not talkin to gnome or vis versa other then that i cant help you sorry03:24
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chrissturmcrismun: on my other s(test) ystem i run breezy and a i have a lot of *c2 packages. and it runs fine.03:24
garnertryawn03:24
raphahybrid_goth: nm :)03:24
F0CUSPlaying MP3's sounds really crappy, does anyone know what it may be? I have tried various programs XMMS and Music player... It's only when I play Music, I have tried a movie and it's fine03:24
garnertrhow is breezy?03:24
crimsun_chrissturm: it's far from complete03:25
chrissturmok03:25
garnertranything earth-shattering in it?03:25
raphachrissturm: I did as you told me. What now?03:25
hybrid_gothrapha: nm?03:25
deuce868garnertr: more worried about system shattering :-)03:25
raphahybrid_goth: short for nevermind03:25
chrissturmrapha: what did i tell you?03:25
hybrid_gothah i get you03:25
raphachrissturm: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential alsa-source03:25
MahlThanks crimsun_ !03:25
hybrid_gothbrb03:26
F0CUScan someone please help me: Playing MP3's sounds really crappy, does anyone know what it may be? I have tried various programs XMMS and Music player and it's not the MP3's cause they are fine in wondows... It's only when I play Music, I have tried a movie and it's fine03:26
chrissturmrapha: must have been someone else :)03:26
raphaOh03:26
deuce868FOCUS: is it only mp3? have you tried .wav or .ogg?03:26
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raphachrissturm: Oh sorry... crimsun_ just went away03:26
^thehatsrule^F0CUS, maybe its your mp3 codec?03:26
limeryep, I can tell the diff already :D03:27
hybrid_gothback03:27
raphaErm03:27
raphaMaybe he didn't03:27
raphacrimsun_: I did as you told me, what now?03:27
crimsun_rapha: I'm only half-here, since I'm still finishing some things at work03:27
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raphacrimsun_: Sure no prob... you told me to  sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential alsa-source03:27
F0CUShmm... I dont thI have changed the codec since before but i will try updating...  1 sec03:27
limercrimsun_, when you have a moment.  could you send me that alt. to CTRL+ALT+Backspace again03:27
Orunitiaright, when I install ubuntu, gdm goes to start up and then my system just freezes, any ideas what's going wrong?03:28
foxinesswelcome back hybrid_goth03:28
hybrid_gothcan you play bzflag if you are in text mode03:28
crimsun_limer: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart03:28
hybrid_gothfoxiness: ty03:28
limerthx, accidental window close last time :D03:28
foxinesshybrid_goth, ty?03:28
hybrid_gothfoxiness: thank you03:28
hybrid_gothfor welcoming me :D03:29
foxinesshybrid_goth, you welcome :)03:29
crimsun_rapha: cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source03:29
crimsun_rapha: choose "no" to PnP, "yes" to debug, and the via82xx driver03:29
raphaOkay03:29
foxinesshybrid_goth, next time it will be wy than dont ask me what is it ;q03:29
Razor-Xhmmmm03:29
crimsun_rapha: then, sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) KVERS=$(uname -r)03:29
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garnertrdeuce, well I'm waiting for it, maybe it will fix my dvd issue! :) har har har... I do like ubuntu, would like to make it my distro for use... :)03:30
Razor-Xwhat form of Linux would run on a EBGA processor?03:30
hybrid_gothfoxiness: heh03:30
chrissturmi entered a wrong password in thunderbird. now i get login failed, but it doesnt ask me again for a password...03:30
limeranyone know a good site with a tutorial for ubuntu and mythtv?03:30
garnertrbut then again, if it doesn't there are so many to choose from! :)03:30
hybrid_gothRazor-X: what is it03:30
foxinesshybrid_goth, did you knwo what is this "/exec -o dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1" "dont try it please"03:30
linuxn00bhey guys, I got a prob with my DVD transcode says there is no /dev/dvd but my other CD-rom is read just fine as /dev/cdrom what can I do to get my dvd to be seen?03:30
deuce868garnertr: plenty to choose from, just as long as they are debian based :-)03:31
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: it's an included proc for a mini-ATX board that's 17 cm x 17 cm03:31
garnertrahhhh I see a slight tug towards debian eh? :)03:31
garnertr;)03:31
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Orunitiaright, when I install ubuntu, gdm goes to start up and then my system just freezes, any ideas what's going wrong?03:31
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hybrid_gothRazor-X: lfs would for sure and maybe uClinux03:31
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Razor-Xand so, i'ld like to work a really mini form of Linux on this03:31
deuce868garnertr: tried SuSE 9.3 for a weekend and came running back03:31
hybrid_gothfoxiness: ni idea03:31
Razor-XI was thinking uClinux03:31
hybrid_gothme too03:31
count0nzmyth for ubuntu stuff === http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=mythtv03:31
hybrid_gothfoxiness: **no03:32
garnertrreally?  I played w/ the live cd and it seemed pretty k-rad k-kewl.  What didn't you like? (if its a ton, just the basic stuff...)03:32
egg|broken$_$03:32
Razor-XuClinux is compiled on install, right?03:32
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egg|brokenvalue $003:32
foxinesshybrid_goth, thanks03:32
hybrid_gothnp03:32
Razor-Xor do I have to compile it for the proc manually?03:32
raphacrimsun_: It finished03:32
hybrid_gothRazor-X: depends03:32
deuce868garnertr: took me four hours to get wireless settings to stay put, I had to install off the dvd each time and then run an update03:32
crimsun_rapha: sudo dpkg -i ../*.deb03:32
hybrid_gothRazor-X: dslinux you had to compile it03:32
raphacrimsun_: Should I dpkg -i the resulting .deb now?03:32
raphaOkay03:32
garnertryikes03:32
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limercount0nz, danke03:33
tizendeuce868: got it working, but had to come up with my own solution... So I think for some reason my system is unique03:33
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deuce868garnertr: felt it was very sluggish and just a pain to get a working web dev for me03:33
deuce868tizen: congrats, what did you have to do?03:33
garnertrI haven't eventouched my wireless yet, I figure if I can get the bloody dvd to work, THEN I'll work on that wireless issue... :)03:33
raphacrimsun_: My volume control applet just had to be reloaded ... I recon that's good? :)03:33
hybrid_gothRazor-X: if some has it compiled for the proc you can use that but other ways i believe you got to compile but idk for sure not much uCLinux work03:33
deuce868garnertr: ha, forget dvd I NEED my wireless...nothing like dev work from the couch :-)03:33
tizenfor some reason the correct font files for me are in /usr/share/X11 and not /usr/X11R6/lib/X1103:33
tizeni dunno, i'm gonna keep trying to figure it out03:33
Razor-Xthis box will be 533 mhz with 32 MB of RAM03:34
crimsun_rapha: yeah, if it didn't spit out any errors03:34
deuce868tizen: there were some more font related threads in the forums you might look at, that one was just the longest one03:34
hybrid_gothRazor-X: gentoo? linuxfromscratch?03:34
raphacrimsun_: Damn, I think I should have enabled my TV cards audio driver03:34
deuce868tizen: had hoped it had your info for you03:34
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tizenyeah, it was close03:34
Razor-Xnot Gentoo, too bloated03:34
tizenI'm gonna have to look this up03:34
drcodehi all03:34
Razor-XI need a simple kernel and bootup03:34
garnertrinteresting, the livecd I played w/ (9.3 I think) worked nice, for my laptop, some distros crawl some fly like the wind... fortunately Ubuntu is a flyer! :)  ahhh wireless fr the couch what a drveam03:34
tizennow that i have a gui03:34
tizenlol03:34
garnertrdream03:34
Razor-Xwhich has to be lightning fast03:34
garnertrhar har03:34
Razor-Xto run only one program03:34
hybrid_gothRazor-X: lfs if you got the time other then that uCLinux maybe a cli only distro03:35
Razor-Xand that's it03:35
drcodeI move to linux and I mast say that ms is primitve vs linux03:35
deuce868garnertr: then again, I'm just not easy to please...even ubuntu and debian distros frustrate me at times03:35
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hybrid_gothRazor-X: no multitaskin?03:35
garnertrDeuce, since you stated debian based, any others that you fancy?03:35
crimsun_rapha: sure. You can always clean /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver, then dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source, and redo the compilation03:35
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: nope03:35
hybrid_gothdrcode: i second that03:35
F0CUSPlaying MP3's sounds really crappy, does anyone know what it may be? I have tried various programs XMMS and Music player... It's only when I play Music, I have tried a movie and it's fine03:35
jerome__hi is there any way to change the font of the clock applet ??03:35
deuce868garnertr: I'm using libranet on a laptop now, Ubuntu on a desktop and I used to have mepis on my laptop03:35
Razor-Xit'll be one application i'll run with, preferably, BASH03:35
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deuce868garnertr: and the servers are required to stay plain headless debian03:36
garnertrhow do you like libranet?03:36
Razor-Xi'm hoping I can fit all this on say... an 8 MB flash card03:36
hybrid_gothRazor-X: well lfs would be good b/c you can make it to do exactly that program if it is to be embedded03:36
Razor-Xahhhh, I see03:36
hybrid_gothRazor-X: so it is not embedded?03:36
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Razor-Xwell, it will be embedded03:36
deuce868garnertr: it's nice, adminmenu is nice, but it's not as clean as ubuntu...EVERYTHING gets installed to get it all working03:36
hybrid_gothRazor-X: then lfs would make it simple and easy03:36
Razor-Xcool ;)03:36
deuce868garnertr: a bit more behind as it follows debian a bit closer than ubuntu as well03:37
Razor-Xhow  much space you think I can fit it in?03:37
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hybrid_gothRazor-X: kinda drawn out but it will be *perfect* for _you_03:37
garnertrI see, thanks for the info... always nice to chat w/ other distro's... :)03:37
hybrid_gothRazor-X: depends on drivers and such daemons03:37
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Razor-Xno daemons, remember?03:37
Razor-Xno video drivers03:38
jerome__is there any way to change the font used for the CLOCK applet in gnome, or is there a better clock applet somewhere ??03:38
Razor-Xa sound driver03:38
deuce868garnertr: every year I get closer to happy...got rid of my last windows box this month so getting close03:38
Razor-Xno USB drivers03:38
Razor-Xand no PS/2 drivers03:38
hybrid_gothRazor-X: the custom kernel is almost very small03:38
Razor-Xall i'll need are sound drivers03:38
deuce868jerome__: you might see if gdesklets work for you ok if you have the extra cpu/ram03:38
hybrid_gothi would say compiled prolly < 7 mb03:38
Razor-Xnice ;)03:38
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Razor-Xhow fast you think it can bootup in?03:38
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deuce868jerome__: the font should be defined in your settings though I would think03:39
garnertryeah, I'D like to do that myself, I bet in 5-years Linux will be a real looker, I know some ppl find the gui stuff and the movement away fr command-line some kind of evil sin, but if you want to beat msft, you have to.. but still keep if for the techies...03:39
hybrid_gothRazor-X: way way faster then ubuntu03:39
Razor-Xhehe, I know03:39
hybrid_gothRazor-X: think of the lil it has to load03:39
jerome__deuce: right but i want it to be different than the system's03:39
Razor-Xbut, the closer to instantaneous bootup, the better03:39
raphacrimsun_: Okay, now I got no volume control anymore on the panel. alsamixer doesn't show "Master" and "PCM" anymore03:39
Razor-XI'm hoping it can do it in < 1 sec03:39
hybrid_gothRazor-X: lfs depends on you. if you dont have much it will load fast03:40
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deuce868garnertr: yea, but I think "beating MS" is the wrong goal. I like Linux because of the command line (prolly #1 reason I hate sitting behind a MS machine any more)03:40
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Razor-Xthat's cool03:40
hybrid_gothRazor-X: jw what will this emmbeded system do03:40
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Razor-Xa music box03:40
Razor-Xfor all intents and purposes, on the outside, it will be a music box03:40
hybrid_gothRazor-X: so like mplayer all the time03:40
Razor-Xwith one MP3 (because I don't want to burden anything with MIDI libraries, and such)03:40
deuce868garnertr: just making stuff work is the way to go and let people determine the product based on requested needs...it'll get there03:40
Razor-XI hear there's a Linux MP3 plyr that takes 1 MB of RAM + the amount for the MP303:41
hybrid_gothRazor-X: so like start up mplayer *03:41
Razor-X*player03:41
beyondHi all, I installed ubuntu hoary here in my computer and I'm having a weird problem. my X is working properly but mouse pointer is moving slow, very slow. It seems that my xorg.conf settings is ok because I'm using the same settings I used before in ubuntu version 4. Any help ?03:41
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Razor-Xthat's pretty much it, really03:41
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velo|gfxello03:41
Razor-Xthat's why, I just need kernel + sound drivers03:41
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Razor-Xand absolutely nothing else03:41
garnertrwell I feel ya, I'm slowly finding it hard/harder to use a msft box, my fav is arguing w/ my it ppl stating thta I need a virus proggy on my laptop in oder to use it in the work space, but I keep telling them to name me actual viruses that affect my platform and they name only msft viruses.. :)03:41
hybrid_gothRazor-X: well it will be small and if it is playin one song over and over it will be fast03:41
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Razor-Xyeahp, that's what it'll do03:41
hybrid_gothRazor-X: linuxfromscratch.org03:42
Razor-Xok03:42
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hybrid_gothRazor-X: good luck and have fun03:42
deuce868garnertr: even when I had MS on I didn't use AV, caused more probs than they solved...smart & up2date users could keep safe03:42
mptNewbie question: Is it usual on Linux/Unix for /etc/passwd to be world-readable like it is in Ubuntu? (I know the file doesn't contain passwords, but it contains other users' phone numbers, etc)03:42
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Laforgeis there where i can get help on an IRC for Ubuntu?03:42
Razor-Xpower will be managed by a depressable switch, if the lid closes, the box will get it's power cut, if the box opens, the power flows03:42
hybrid_gothRazor-X: should be quite easy concludin no drivers no internet03:42
Razor-Xthat's why I need an almost instantaneous bootup03:42
deuce868garnertr: of course most users aren't that way so my servers run AV all over the place lol03:42
drbhehe. this is fun.  deb unstable -> hoary+backports03:42
Razor-Xyeah, no internet, of course03:42
garnertrhehehehhee, yeah, its always fun to argue.. :)03:42
Laforgeok well i will just ask03:43
hybrid_gothRazor-X: yea it should be fast03:43
Laforgehas anyone gotten the X Server error?03:43
hybrid_gothlightweight03:43
crimsun_Laforge: this is the sanctioned channel, yes.03:43
Laforgeafter an install03:43
garnertryup, sometimes you have too, got to cover your butt... ppl are lazy anyway, if they know thta someone else will do the job, they'll expect to be done by someone else03:43
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deuce868Laforge: and the error is??03:44
garnertrlaforge, I can honestly say that my issues have never centered around x03:44
Laforgeone sec03:44
garnertrbut you might want to provide more detailed information for some of the smarter ppl here to answer ya03:44
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Razor-Xhmmm, what's the CUPS password in Ubuntu?03:44
Laforgelol yea i need to get to it03:44
=== hybrid_goth cant say X is aq piority let alone a problem
Fitzsimmonshi all.  What usually sets the enviornment variable LC_ALL?03:44
Fitzsimmonsbecause it is setting it incorrectly03:45
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Razor-Xerrr, nevermind03:45
benplautwhat the? i just got 13 updates?!?03:45
deuce868hybrid_goth: come on...how else to run tuxracer :-)03:45
^thehatsrule^fun!03:45
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LaforgeOk here is my error03:45
Tron|Borghello :D03:45
garnertrtron borg? funny03:46
Tron|Borglol03:46
Tron|Borgyou like it?03:46
deuce868Tron|Borg: interesting 70s/90s combo03:46
LaforgeI cannot start the X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?03:46
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hybrid_gothdeuce868: heh i juss wanna play bzflag thats all i need a gui for03:46
Tron|Borgit is? I didnt know that myself03:46
garnertrtb, yes I do like it03:46
deuce868laforge: say yes :-) need the output03:46
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Tron|Borgthanks deuce03:46
LaforgeOk here we go03:46
Tron|Borgguess what, I have good news03:46
garnertrlove the light cycle...vrrrrrrmmmmmmmmm03:46
deuce868hybrid_goth: never heard of bzflag03:46
chrissturmanyone know how i can clear the password in thunderbird?03:47
hybrid_gothdeuce868: nice tank game you can play over the internet03:47
Tron|Borgtwo of my hard drives have failed....03:47
garnertrok, do tell what is the good news03:47
garnertrdid you save money on your car insurance?03:47
Tron|Borglol03:47
LaforgeX window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-10 20050405154308 root@terranova.warthogs.hbd.com)03:47
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Tron|Borgthankfully i dont have a car03:47
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hybrid_gothchrissturm: should be in account options passwd or sumthing similair03:47
deuce868Tron|Borg always get diff drives in diff batches03:47
LaforgeRelease Date: 9 Feburar 200503:47
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Tron|Borgreally?03:48
Tron|Borgcrap03:48
Tron|Borg*sob*03:48
LaforgeX Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.203:48
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`helixhow to upgrade to Breezy Badger03:48
deuce868Tron|Borg: yea, sys admin stuff I read says if you're getting two drives from same batch very likely they die same time03:48
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Tron|BorgI'm not sure what has happened, I could be wrong but....03:48
`helixunder sources.list03:48
crimsun_Laforge: please use #flood or http://pastebin.com03:48
crimsun_`helix: please see the topic, thanks03:48
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hybrid_gothbodhi: dont know what name to use?03:48
Tron|Borgi'm glad you know your stuff03:48
Fitzsimmonsanyone?  what sets the locale environment variables?03:48
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deuce868Tron|Borg: so you're not sure they're dead? or you know they are dead?03:49
BrettMeisterDoes anyone know why my dvd would not auto-unmount a while ago?  Really irritating.  It auto-mounted.03:49
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crimsun_BrettMeister: it was a hotplug issue that has since been corrected03:49
Tron|BorgI installed ubuntu but in the startup03:49
hybrid_gothwhats coldplug03:49
hybrid_goth?03:49
Tron|Borgit gave me the error:03:49
Tron|BorgBuffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block 103:50
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Tron|Borgthen logical block 2, and so on03:50
Tron|Borgalso dm-303:50
BrettMeistercrimsun_: Thanks for the info.  This happened just a while ago tonight.  You mean it just now got fixed?03:50
crimsun_BrettMeister: no, sorry, I'm referring to a different problem.03:50
crimsun_BrettMeister: usb mass storage (scsi)03:50
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Adyethswhy would fontforge cause my computer to lock up?03:51
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BrettMeistercrimsun_: Thanks.03:51
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_simplei'm installing kubuntu-desktop, will i be prompted which desktop i can choose from between gnome and kde?03:52
Tron|Borgkubuntu is just KDE03:52
Tron|Borgyay I helped03:52
hybrid_gothlol03:52
deuce868_simple: once you get one running you can install the other03:52
_simplesay what?03:52
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nomasteryoda_simple, it comes with Gnome03:52
_simpleyes03:53
nomasteryodayou have to download kde03:53
hybrid_goth_simple: kubuntu has kde but when you install you can apt gnome03:53
_simpleubuntu comes with gnome03:53
_simplei am doing that now03:53
hybrid_gothnomasteryoda: hey whats happening03:53
nomasteryodathe choice is at bottom03:53
_simplewhat i mean is after install when i reboot03:53
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nomasteryodaof screen03:53
_simplewill i be able to pick from gnome or kde?03:53
nomasteryodahey hybrid_goth03:53
nomasteryodayea03:53
deuce868_simple: once you get jubuntu installed look for documents to help install gnome03:53
nomasteryoda_simple, yes03:53
deuce868_simple: errr...kubuntu03:53
_simpleor will it boot to a command prompt and i pick like startx or startkde03:53
_simpleno i have ubuntu installed03:53
hybrid_gothdeuce868: jubuntu? wow what de is that03:53
hybrid_goth:p03:53
nomasteryoda_simple, it will be graphical03:53
_simplealright thanks (:03:53
Tron|Borgany idea what the average life span of a hard drive?03:54
Tron|Borgis03:54
_simplejust curious before finding out for myself :D03:54
deuce868hybrid_goth: if you take Sun's JDS and mix it with Ubuntu :-)03:54
Tron|Borgmaxtor have let me down :'(03:54
hybrid_gothdeuce868: oh i thot it was jde jacka- well nvm03:54
hybrid_goth(:03:54
deuce868Tron|Borg: go by the warranty, go at least 3 years...after that no promises03:55
garnertrI've got hd's that are years old and still working great03:55
Tron|Borgi suppose i just got a bad batch03:55
garnertrbut I've got good backups too.. :)03:55
Tron|Borgi dont keep any lol03:55
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deuce868Tron|Borg always the hardest lesson, do you have another machine?03:55
garnertrwell mine are just avi's from the net, not great loss if they are gone...03:55
scorpixhow can i view images in the terminal without installing xserver?03:55
Tron|Borgno, but i do have another drive03:56
hybrid_gothfbi03:56
Tron|Borglol03:56
hybrid_gothxv03:56
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hybrid_gothscorpix: ^03:56
galactic2cab someone help me with an ubuntu install issue?03:56
Tron|Borgluckily my important data is on my newer hard drive03:56
deuce868hybrid_goth: what is fbi xv?03:56
Tron|Borgslightly prepared03:56
deuce868Tron|Borg, external firewire drive is my best friend03:56
hybrid_gothdeuce868: fbi lets you veiw jpg in cli and xv is another img veiwer03:56
Tron|Borgyea?03:56
Tron|Borgi've got 2 firewire ports03:57
Tron|Borgsounds like fun.03:57
deuce868hybrid_goth: ah, learn something new every day03:57
scorpixhybrid_goth: ?03:57
hybrid_gothscorpix: use fbi or xv03:57
deuce868Tron|Borg: yea, keep a copy on it and use Unison to sync the copies...auto backup03:57
Tron|Borgfirewire is faster than USB2 no?03:57
hybrid_gothdeuce868: i have learned alot in cli03:57
hybrid_gothyes03:57
deuce868Tron|Borg: and then the external firewire makes for quick transfers to other machines when needed03:58
Tron|Borgunison, is that a linux app?03:58
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Tron|Borggreat03:58
deuce868Tron|Borg: it works in many environments03:58
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Tron|Borgthanks for the tip03:58
hybrid_gothTron|Borg: it is like an oversized thumbdrive for firewire03:58
hybrid_goth:P03:58
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Tron|Borghehe03:59
F0CUSHEY! I need help, All my MP3's sounds really crappy! I have tried .WAV files and OGG and they are fine, it is just MP3's03:59
deuce868hybrid_goth: know of any good sites for picking up vi tips then?03:59
hybrid_gothdeuce868: vi-improved.org/tutorial.html03:59
Tron|BorgFOCUS: are they very low bitrate?03:59
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hybrid_gothmaybe .com03:59
hybrid_gothF0CUS: convert to ogg it is OSS anyway04:00
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Laforgehttp://pastebin.com/286376 that is where the error file is04:00
limerF0CUS: is this in xmms?04:00
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deuce868hybrid_goth: changed to tutorial.php :-)04:00
Laforgefor duce86804:00
hybrid_gothdeuce868: i thot04:00
hybrid_gothwasnt for sure04:00
hybrid_gothq:04:00
F0CUSlimer: all apps04:01
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Tron|Borgi'm going to jump on these hard drives04:01
deuce868laforge: do you have a screens section in your xorg.conf? and Is there a default screen set?04:01
meuserjI have problem compiling a kernal on an amd64 machine using make-kpkg04:01
kev2123hey folks, does anyone know how i can read of the temoperature of my CPU in ubuntu?04:01
Tron|Borgactually, i'll play with the insides first04:01
F0CUSTron|Borg: no, they sounded fine in windows, they are >190Kps04:01
Laforgewhat do you mean?04:01
meuserjit keeps giving me "dpkg-architecture: warning: Unknown gcc system type amd64-linux, falling back to default (native compilation)"04:02
Tron|Borgoh04:02
elfoge ai biscataiada04:02
meuserjand then says that it doesn't think it's in the top of a kernel source tree.. which it is of course.04:02
F0CUShybrid_goth: I dont want to convert all my mp3 to ogg....04:02
Tron|BorgFOCUS: ok, I dont know enough about linux to suggest anything useful :) sorry04:02
meuserjthis is 2.6.11.. using breezy04:02
F0CUSlol04:02
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meuserjanyone have any clues?04:03
hybrid_gothmeuserj: why the new kernel?04:03
ReDanyone wanna help me out? i need to install video drivers...04:03
benplautReD: what video card do you have?04:03
ReDi'm using onboard04:04
hybrid_gothReD: be more specific plz04:04
Tron|Borgcant wait for fedora 4 :D04:04
Tron|Borgwhos with me04:04
benplautIntel onboard?04:04
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F0CUSHEY! I need help, All my MP3's sounds really crappy! I have tried .WAV files and OGG and they are fine, it is just MP3's. I have tried XMMS, Music Player04:04
ReD( hybrid_goth ) i can only select one resolution04:04
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AmaranthTron|Borg: Not me. :)04:04
hybrid_gothq:04:04
Tron|Borglol04:04
ReD( benplaut ) yep04:04
elkidhello, can somebody tell wich is the package for the famd daemon plz?04:04
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meuserjhybrid_goth: because I have a DVD burner that only will burn regular CD's with that kernel.04:05
hybrid_gothmeuserj: ah04:05
qkohello04:05
ReDIntel 82845G/82865G04:05
hybrid_gothhi04:05
nickrudelkid, fam04:05
qkoi have a question04:05
deuce868meuserj: you have the dvd utils package installed?04:05
Tron|Borghi qko04:05
qkohi04:06
hybrid_gothheh04:06
limerwhat does xmms use to decode mp3s?  mad04:06
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qkosorry for my poor english04:06
Tron|Borgits good english so far !04:06
elkidnickrud,  r u sure, because it shows me like 30 packages to install and i allready have gnome-panel etc..04:06
hybrid_gothqko: np04:06
qkojeje04:06
deuce868meuserj: dvd+rw-tools04:06
F0CUSPLEASE HELP! All my MP3's sounds really crappy! I have tried .WAV files and OGG and they are fine, it is just MP3's. I have tried XMMS, Music Player04:06
qkoim from spain04:06
hybrid_gothqko: if we can make it out we will help q:04:06
qkoAsturias04:06
hybrid_gothqko: i belive there is a spanish channel #ubuntu-es04:07
F0CUSI have already reinstalled libmp3hip0 in synaptic04:07
ReDhttp://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Filter_Results.aspx?strOSs=39&strTypes=DRV,ARC&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Linux* i've tried both with no joy04:07
Laforgedeuce868: What is xorg.conf?04:07
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nickrudelkid, gamin is what ubuntu-desktop pulls in, fam is the old monitor. On my system, it wants to uninstall a whole lot04:07
meuserjdeuce868: it has nothing to do with dvd burning... dvd's burn just fine.. but there is a problem burning cd's... I researched it, and for regular cd support, I need kernel 1104:07
limerF0CUS: have you tried running something like mpg321 at the cli?04:07
xenoxaosdoes anyone know of any ncurses binaries for warty?04:07
deuce868meuserj: ah, thought it was the other way around04:07
qkoIn Synaptic it says me that i have 13 paks broken04:08
qkobut I cant install it04:08
F0CUSlimer: what is mpg321?04:08
elkidnickrud,  and whats the init.d file for it? i have installed it but ...04:08
meuserjso.. does anyone have experiece with the above error?04:08
limerF0CUS: sudo apt-get install mpg32104:08
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nickrudelkid, just what are you after, you don't really need fam anymore04:09
F0CUSah, its the cli command04:09
F0CUSI got that04:09
limerF0CUS: command line mp3 player04:09
F0CUSlet me try04:09
galactic2cab someone help me with an ubuntu install issue?04:09
meuserj"dpkg-architecture: warning: Unknown gcc system type amd64-linux, falling back to default (native compilation)" when compiling a kernel on amd64 with make-kpkg?04:09
F0CUSIhave it, 1 sec04:09
galactic2im trying to dual boot04:09
limerthis may do nothing, but I'm curious as xmms seems to use the "other" mpg12304:09
Tron|Borggalactic2: whats up04:09
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aj_Does anyone know where the equivilant of the .bashrc file is in slackware?04:09
JairunCalothr04:09
hybrid_goth~/.bashrc04:09
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galactic2im running xp on an NVRAID array using my motherboard, and im trying to put linux on a seperate third SATA hdd04:10
aj_Not there.04:10
hybrid_gotho_004:10
galactic2i got through the first install routine04:10
aj_I already checked.04:10
hybrid_gothwelll do you mean in ubuntu or slack?04:10
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aj_I mean in slack.04:10
galactic2it said to wait till linux boots, and of course linux didnt boot but windows did instead (it booted from the RAID array)04:10
hybrid_gothwell ask #slackware maybe?04:10
limeraj_: updatedb && locate bashrc04:10
galactic2i forced the bios to boot from the linux hdd and it says inset system disk04:10
haydenis there a way to change the default xfce login screen without installing gnome or kde04:10
deuce868does slack use bash?04:10
limeraj_: sudo first, sry :P04:10
thr1ceyes, slack uses bashj04:11
thr1cebash04:11
elkidnickrud, ok, but how do i make to it runs and update my nautilus like famd used to?04:11
Tron|Borggalactic2: where did you install grub04:11
aj_Ok. thanks.04:11
aj_join #slack04:11
galactic2i dont know it never asked anything for some reason04:11
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galactic2no questions on where the bootloader should go04:11
Tron|Borggalactic2: try booting from your first hdd/array.04:12
Tron|Borgit could have installed to the MBR04:12
computerguy867does anyone know anything about setting up your own http file server?04:12
galactic2yeah i can boot from the first array, it goes to windows04:12
galactic2without a hitch04:12
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galactic2but no linux04:12
Tron|Borgoh right04:12
computerguy867on your desktop04:12
elkidok, how do i make nautilus update like it used to do with famd?04:12
deuce868computerguy867: with webdav or with scp or ftp or what?04:12
Tron|Borgor apache :D04:12
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computerguy867i said http04:12
nickrudelkid, if ps -A | grep gam-server04:13
galactic2any suggestions?04:13
Tron|Borg*says apache lots*04:13
nickrudelkid, exists, you will get updates in nautilus04:13
limeranything I should know before screwing myself with 'nvtv' guys?04:13
Tron|Borgsorry galactic2, i cant say i know04:13
deuce868computerguy867: so I repeat...how are you getting files up there and they get them down? webdav, scp, ftp etc04:13
ReDanyone gonna help me? lol04:13
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galactic2should there be a question is setup regarding where to put grub or lilo?04:13
galactic2it seems like it didnt even put the bootloader on04:14
computerguy867hmmm, Im not really sure what Im doing but I want to be able to securely access any files i want from my desktop using any browser04:14
Tron|BorgX-Chat is making noises lol04:14
elkidnickrud,  isnt running04:14
computerguy867(web browser)04:14
nickrudelkid, when that happens, I killall nautilus, and it comes back, as a rule04:14
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drcodeHI all04:15
deuce868computerguy867: and how do the files get onto the server? All you need to download it apache running with ssl with htacess for that04:15
drcodeis there cms soft for linux that is better then Microsft CMS?04:15
computerguy867deuce866: Ok cool thanks04:15
computerguy867deuce866: So thats secure?04:16
deuce868computerguy867: if it's over https it will be04:16
drcodeat work we use MS CMS , the linux have also somthing like that?04:16
computerguy867deuce866: Whats https?04:16
deuce868drcode: customer or content management system?04:16
deuce868computerguy867: apache with ssl04:16
drcodecontent MAnagment system04:16
haydenis there a way to change the default xfce login screen without installing gnome or kde04:16
computerguy867deuce866: Ok04:16
deuce868drcode: I really like mamboserver.com, can also try xoops04:17
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deuce868drcode: there are a bunch of CMS sites that review various web based packages04:17
drcodeI Will check it out04:17
computerguy867deuce866: And I could just configure any folders I want to be served on my computer?04:17
F0CUShow do I stop the mp3 in mpg32104:17
computerguy867deuce866: How does that work04:17
drcodebtw: U know the LIve COmmnucation server of ms04:17
drcodeor IBM sametime server04:17
drcodeis there somthing in linux ?04:18
F0CUSlimer: how do I stop the mp3 in mpg32104:18
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computerguy867deuce866: Would I see my entire file structure in the browser?04:18
nickrudF0CUS, control-c in the terminal04:19
elkidnautilus still without updating itselft :(04:19
nickrudelkid, still no gam_server?04:19
elkidnickrud,  /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server but doesnt work04:19
Laforgedeuce868 : http://pastebin.com/286377 that is the error i get for X server04:19
deuce868computerguy867: it's a bit complicated, you'd have to read up on https and such04:20
computerguy867deuce866: Ok, will do04:20
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tekinlachehi04:20
haydenhow do i install java 2 sdk ?04:20
deuce868laforge: can you open the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for the word screen?04:20
computerguy867deuce866: I have one more question, do you know of any particular sites or howto's(besides just doing a google search) that have info04:21
subroothi hi, current gentoo user here interested in ubuntu04:21
deuce868computerguy867: I would either visit borders with and grab an orielly apache book or google my heart out04:21
subrootanyone know how it is compared to gentoo?04:21
raphacrimsun_: Hey, the recompilation didn't help with sound in Quake3 either04:21
nickrudelkid, did you restart nautilus?04:21
Laforgedeuce868 : would i do like a open command04:21
subrootlike.. how they differ/are similar?04:21
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Laforgedeuce868 right now all i have is command line04:22
elkidnickrud, no04:22
elkidnickrud,  what for04:22
deuce868laforge: try this pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:22
computerguy867deuce866: Ok, Thanks Alot!04:22
beyondHi all, I installed ubuntu hoary here in my computer and I'm having a weird problem. my X is working properly but mouse pointer is moving slow, very slow. It seems that my xorg.conf settings is ok because I'm using the same settings I used before in ubuntu version 4. xset m is not working here. Any help ?04:22
nickrudelkid, try that, nautilus wants gam_server running, so when it restarts, it will restart the gam_server04:22
Laforgedeuce868 ok what am i looking for?04:22
deuce868laforge: the word screen04:22
computerguy867deuce866: I like that the ubuntu channel is frame free04:22
computerguy867deuce866: *flame04:23
elkidnickrud, ok do i log out and get in again and done?04:23
deuce868laforge: your error says no screens found so it looks like you might be missing a screen section of your conf04:23
Laforgeok04:23
deuce868subroot: I hear emerge and apt are similiar04:23
nickrudelkid, in a terminal, killall nautilus.  gnome-session will restart nautilus, and nautilus gam_server04:23
deuce868subroot: I think ubuntu is a different phil. for you. You install and start working right off the bat04:23
Laforgedeuce868 there is at the bottom things like ^W Where is, how do i access that04:23
deuce868laforge: those are control commands...so search is control->w04:24
thr1ceok...the best way to trick firefox into thinking it's 1.0.4?04:24
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Laforgedeuce868 ok i found section "screen"04:24
elkidnickrud,  i did and still doesnt update the files :(04:24
Laforgedeuce868 i have a default screen04:25
haydenhow can i install java 2 sdk 1.4.2_0x ?04:25
deuce868laforge: in your section called ServerLayout is there a screen setting?04:25
elkidwhat was wrong with famd? it used to work fine why did they change it?04:25
Laforgedeuce868 there is a screen but no screen setting04:26
beyondmy mouse is actually working fine too. I tested in another computer04:26
elkidto the gam server04:26
nickrudelkid, /usr/share/doc/gamin/README04:26
xenoxaosHow do i get the naked people background that is no longer on the cds?04:26
_simplegdm = gnome?04:26
deuce868laforge: ok try this...in that Server section add something like this04:26
benplautxenoxaos: you can probably just google "ubuntu calender"04:26
limer_simple: man gdm04:27
deuce868laforge: Screen 0 "something" where something is the "Identifier" from the screen section04:27
_simpleeh?04:27
limerI just did tonight :P04:27
limergood ol' crimsun_ teachin me04:27
Tron|Borgxenoxaos: hahaha which naked people04:27
Laforgedeuce868 ok so now do i restart?04:27
limer_simple: gnome display manager04:28
benplautTron|Borg: in warty, the ubuntu calender backgrounds were ...artistic...04:28
deuce868laforge: once that is set just try the command startx and you should either get X or an error04:28
xenoxaosi remember there was some controversy over the backgrounds04:28
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weswhow do you make the blonde naked?04:28
weswj/k04:28
deuce868yea April 1st was "interesting" to say the least when I did my updates04:28
benplaut:rolleays:04:28
Laforgedeuce868 Ok i try to exit but i wont let me save04:28
Laforgepermission denied04:29
benplautdeuce868: i remember that one... hehehe...04:29
limerwesw: alcohol?04:29
thr1cenoone knows how to change firefox to think it's 1.0.4 to get themes/extensions ?04:29
Tron|BorgzZzZz, goodnight all !!04:29
_simplealright sweet04:29
deuce868laforge: shoot, forgot you prolly weren't root04:29
weswperhaps a diamond?04:29
_simplei think gdm will be the default sure04:29
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benplautthr1ce: just a sec... i'll find it04:29
deuce868laforge: you're going to have to exit and then run the command again with su so su pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:29
deuce868laforge: and make the change again04:29
Laforgeok04:29
deuce868brb04:30
limerwesw: no a diamond is when you can't get rid of her ;)04:30
elkidnickrud, ok but is it like famd or how do ppl make it run like a daemon every time pc restart?04:30
Laforgedeuce868 do you mean sudo?04:30
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deuce868laforge: yep, sorry04:30
benplautthr1ce:go to about:config04:30
benplautsearch for general.useragent.vendorSub04:30
benplautchange it from 1.0 to 1.0.404:30
benplautand it should work04:30
RedNeck_hello04:30
benplauthello04:30
weswhi04:30
nickrudelkid, it's always started for me, and when it failed, killing nautilus has brought it back. I've never needed to investigate any deeper ;(04:31
RedNeck_Does anyone know if there is a guide to build RPMs for Ubuntu?04:31
weswwhy RPM for Ubuntu?  you don't like apt better?04:32
benplautRedNeck_: ubuntu is debian based, so it doesn't use RPM... it uses DEB04:32
hybrid_gothalien04:32
nickrudRedNeck_, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/04:32
RedNeck_well I wuold like to configure some of the packages04:32
thr1cebenplaut, sweet, thanks man04:32
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Laforgedeuce868 uh oh when i do sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf it loads a new file04:33
Zer0Gexit04:33
deuce868laforge: you sure we typed it correct? just the same as the last time04:33
RedNeck_is it posible to install silent applications in Ubuntu?04:34
Laforgedeuce868 haha woops typed it wrong like 5 times04:34
deuce868laforge: phew, don't scare me into thinking I helped you clear that file lol04:34
weswredneck, u mean defeat the security?04:34
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Laforgedeuce868 lol sorry04:34
Laforgedeuce868 ok saved it04:34
Laforgedeuce868 now run startx?04:35
deuce868laforge: yea, let 'er rip04:35
judsonhow owuld I go about upgrading firefox if there is no apt-get update yet?04:35
RedNeck_wesw no I mean by using swintches or modifing the installer04:35
Laforgedeuce868 uh ok still fatal error no screens found04:35
benplautjudson: there is one in backports04:36
deuce868laforge: can you do that paste thing with your xorg.conf file so I can see it better?04:36
judsonthats an alternate repository?04:36
benplautyes04:36
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Laforgedeuce868 ok i will04:36
benplautgo to ubuntuforums.org , and click on 3rd party projects04:36
weswredneck, depends on what binary package u install.04:37
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judsonawsome.04:37
RedNeck_wesw do you know if there is aguide or something?04:37
thr1cePLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY04:37
calcthr1ce: if its not still bleeding its too old :)04:38
thr1cecalc, well, I heard people's systems quit working04:38
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weswredneck, not off the top of my head...google for it or find someone here smarter than I..  :)04:38
jsgotangcoheh just dont use it yet its bound to break especially with gcc4 looming04:38
calcthr1ce: yea the xorg stuff was a bit hosed wrt font locations04:38
RedNeck_I wuold like to create my own cd with my own programs and appl just like a windows xp unattended cd..04:38
calci haven't restarted x in 13 days so i am safe i think ;)04:38
calci'm going to hold off upgrading breezy again until the c++ transition looks stable04:39
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weswredneck, ahh..not just a silent app install, but the entire OS04:39
calcoh yea and new gnome 2.11.1 stuff went in today too04:39
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limerRedNeck_: I think I found my way to something like starting at the ubunutlinux.org site04:39
benplautthe updates are for hoary, too04:39
RedNeck_exactly04:39
cheesedogcan someone give me a hand? i just installed Ubuntu 5.04 and when i try to login my computer hangs04:39
limercouldn't retrace my steps though04:40
thr1cecheck the xorg logs04:40
limercheesedog: are you thrown back to a prompt?04:40
limerif it's incorrect login, you should get a msg telling you so04:41
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thr1cecalc, are you on breezy?04:41
Kelmmm breezy04:41
weswcheesedog...if you haven't run memtest86 [boot option]  ever, run that for a full cycle to test your hardware04:42
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calcthr1ce: yes since it was opened04:42
thr1cecalc, and your x works?04:42
calcsure04:42
weswthen proceed to software configuration issues04:42
cheesedogwesw: that's at the Grub screen right?04:42
thr1cecalc, it runs alright for you?04:42
cheesedogi'm new to the linux04:42
weswcorrect04:42
calchaven't restarted x since may 304:42
RedNeck_Has anyone created an unattended Ubuntu cd hereor does anyone know how?04:42
weswjust better to check first04:42
limerswitch to TTY2 and try to login04:42
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weswhopefully not a problem, but you'll be going in circles if it's hardware related04:43
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=== calc votes to name the release after breezy salty snail :)
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Laforgedeuce868 pastebin isn't working so vew it here http://laforge0308.net/error.html04:43
judsonthank you benplaut, that worked well.04:43
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deuce868laforge: that's the error, I meant the xorg.conf file04:44
=== count0nz 2nds Salty Snail :)
Laforgedeuce868 uh ok might take a long time04:44
Laforgedeuce868 anyway to like copy and paste?04:44
deuce868laforge: hmmm, you're command line only?04:44
Laforgeyea04:44
deuce868laforge: one sec04:45
Laforgeok04:45
hybrid_gothLaforge: power to the CLI ppl04:45
Laforgehuh?04:45
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hybrid_gothLaforge: i am on cli mode04:45
Laforgeok?04:45
hybrid_gothCLI rules04:46
IIIEarsHello! - I want to peek at ntfs files overwritten with an ext3 file system - You can do it but what application does it?04:46
deuce868laforge: check for PM04:47
limerIIIEars: I just saw this in synaptic04:47
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limersomewhere04:47
IIIEarsso many linux toys so little time - lol04:47
limerlook in fs tools04:47
IIIEarsGreat! - Thank You. :)04:47
Laforgedeuce868 how i am using chatzilla04:47
deuce868laforge: lol, no idea04:47
Laforgedeuce868 i got your invite04:47
Laforgedeuce868 i went but then you disconnected04:48
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Dreamer3how do i reinstall and resetup postfix on ubuntu?04:48
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weswsudo apt-get remove postfix | sudo apt-get install postfix04:49
tekinlachewhere are the *iso files for breezy :) ?04:49
thr1cecheck www.google.com04:49
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Keltekinlache: They don't exist afaik.04:49
deuce868laforge: try again04:49
Laforgedeuce868 ok i can connect but when i type something i get disconnected04:49
thr1ceyes, a dev CD was released04:49
KelYou just update your apt/sources.list to say "brezy" instead of "hoary" and upgrade04:49
Keloh yea? well nm then :)04:49
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Kelfaster ;)04:49
Dreamer3wesw: ok, that wants to remove a bunch of packages, not what i need04:50
Laforgedeuce868 Internal error dispatching command dcc-accept. Must be in REQUESTED state and direction GET04:50
tekinlacheKel, It was a joke04:50
tekinlache:)04:50
deuce868laforge: ok, nvm that I guess04:50
Laforgelol04:50
Kelo.O right then.04:50
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Laforgedeuce868 should i try to redowload the file?04:51
wesware you sure just postfix is out of whack?04:51
calchttp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/breezy/colony-1/04:51
IIIEarsOoh - ahh-Wow! fps and gfs tools - hm - more toys -  wide grin04:51
calctekinlache: see above04:51
limerwesw: shouldn't that pipe be &&04:51
weswyou can uninstall all of those packages, BUT write them down before you do and reinstall them immediately before logging out or rebooting04:51
tekinlachethr1ce, hey I asked some help on my slack04:51
Dreamer3wesw: i reset the permissions on /var... so now i want to fix it one package at a time04:51
peckguys i'm on command line, what's wrong with breezy? can't really access the site04:51
thr1cetekinlache, I coulda helped you04:52
weswyes, && works04:52
tekinlachethr1ce, ok04:52
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limer:D04:52
calcpeck: there is numerous breakage in breezy right now, the c++ transition, new xorg, new gnome, etc04:52
judsonwhat is Breezy?04:52
calcjudson: ubuntu 5.10 testing04:52
IIIEarscalc - Breezy is available? - the welcome banner is out of date?04:52
judsonah ic, thanks04:52
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Dreamer3wesw: i know there is an easy way to do this04:53
calcIIIEars: colony 1, the first official test release04:53
weswdreamer3, i've never done well resetting permissions on / and usually reinstall.  perhaps a better solution exists!  i'd hope so04:53
weswafter a reinstall, you won't make that mistake again!04:53
tekinlachecalc, thanks a lot dude04:54
Dreamer3wesw: typo, not a mistake... and it's linux it can be fixed04:54
tekinlachecalc, didin't think theyd exist yet04:54
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IIIEarsNice! - been waiting for this..04:54
Dreamer3wesw: this isn't windows ;-)04:54
weswthank goodness!04:54
calctekinlache: ok04:54
nickrudcalc, is colony-1 from before the c++ transistion, or, by the date, during :004:54
peckcalc, thx. but wow is that "normal"?04:54
weswalso look at Solaris...also quite cool!04:54
calcnickrud: no idea04:54
calcpeck: well breezy is the development version so things break when development occurs ;)04:55
IIIEarsHow did they "harden" it? - can you point me to the link?04:55
calcnickrud: i don't recall seeing any c2 packages yesterday so its probably right before04:55
peckcalc so this was anticipated or is it like an error in the project or some technical bug?04:55
weswIIIEars, google for SELinux by the NSA04:55
tekinlachecalc, by the way ... do you think breezy has langugage support ?04:55
ajmitchwesw: yes, we're working on it :)04:56
IIIEarsa full implementation? - cool. - LIDS? - No Execute?04:56
weswI know....it'll be well received when your done.  thanks for addressing it!04:56
calctekinlache: language support? it supports english at least ;)04:57
thr1cecalc, what kernel is breezy up to ?04:57
thr1cecalc, and is it using gnome 2.11 ?04:57
xenoxaoshow do you turn off the automatic processor scaling(my laptop goes from 1.2ghz to 2.0 ghz when i'm doing something like compiling) i dont want it to when i'm running on battery, any thoughts?04:57
IIIEarsUbuntu developers are super human great.  - Breezy Badger is proof.04:57
calc2.6.11.92 in universe04:58
ajmitchIIIEars: selinux + some other things04:58
calc2.6.10 in main04:58
ajmitchIIIEars: at least that's what we hope will be ready04:58
thr1cecalc, should be at least 2.6.10.104:58
kestasxenoxaos: isnt that a bios thing?04:58
JairunCalothheh, this window still works, but everything else is frozen04:58
calcpeck: its an issue of packages being out of sync, once everything is up to date it will likely work04:58
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JairunCalothnow my mouse is gone...04:58
weswajmitch, will SELinux be default install?04:58
billytwowillyubuntu is getting the selinux hardening stuff?04:59
IIIEarshow do you guys manage it in only six months? - wide grin04:59
calcthr1ce: perhaps its called 2.6.10-5-*04:59
calcthr1ce: i don't see the actual upstream 2.6.10.1 mentioned though04:59
pji need help!!04:59
ajmitchwesw: depends on how development & testing goes04:59
weswpost a question pj04:59
thr1cecalc, when I ran breezy a few weeks ago, it was 2.6.10.104:59
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ajmitchIIIEars: simple, we don't bother to sleep04:59
pjya good wit comps right05:00
peckcalc, thx a lot! i'm an enthusiast ;) both the "product" and the open source project handling impress me a lot05:00
weswajmitch, understandable.  but if good enough to default, should help protect the average users well05:00
xenoxaoskestas: no, i used to force it by echoing a 1 or 0 to /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance....now it does it automatically05:00
ajmitchwesw: I hope so05:00
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xenoxaoswhich is nice when i'm plugged in, but when i'm running on battery i want to be in the slow one05:00
kestasxenoxaos: weird, on my laptop you disable it in the bios05:00
radhazhowdee all05:00
kvidellthis should be fun05:00
weswall, have you donated to your favorite OS lately?05:00
kvidelljust got a 200 package apt-get dist-upgrade on my breezy laptop05:00
JairunCaloththis is maddening... my mouse has dissapeared05:01
weswyour developers need more coffee!05:01
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radhazlol wesw05:01
count0nz500 odd here :)05:01
pjlol05:01
JairunCalothhow can I change windows, like alt-tabbing in wondoz05:01
deuce868wesw: we're in here offering help aren't we :-)05:01
billytwowillyJairunCaloth: I'm holding it hostage. I shall send you a ransom letting soon.05:01
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pjletting??05:01
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kestasI gave my stem cells05:01
weswthat too....donations of all kinds welcomed and encouraged05:01
kvidellwesw: I've been toiling in the forum helping people, all I can do for now aside from not use backports to help with the bandwidth there ;)05:01
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IIIEarsname me the "Official supplier of Ubuntu coffee" - Breezy Badger is incredible.05:02
pjhow do you get rid of viruses05:02
JairunCalothgot my mouse back.... still can't change windows05:02
pjanyone05:02
radhazso does anyone here use "Revelation 0.4.3 Password Manager"?  I keep getting an error after installing it "Revelation could not find its configuration data, please reinstall Revelation."05:02
pjanyone05:02
billytwowillypj: this is linux. we don't do viruses;)05:02
thr1cepj, what virus is that?05:02
weswpj, don't use windows05:02
kestaspj how do you know wyouve got a virus?05:02
radhazuhm pj, i have no idea how you would get a virus in linux05:02
pjyeah i know i've never a virus on this comp05:03
radhazi mean there out there as I understand it but wow05:03
pji got one on my windows one05:03
pji got two comps05:03
pjya see05:03
billytwowillyhave05:03
radhazoh windows, get yourself norton antivirus05:03
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billytwowillynorton = crap05:03
pji do05:03
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weswhttp://securityresponse.symantec.com   <== free online virus scanner05:03
pjbut i still got a fucking virus05:03
IIIEarsI pity the hackers - going to lose a lot more sleep than the developers rewriting exploits - NOT!05:03
radhaznorton works billy :p05:03
hybrid_gothpj: to get rid of the virus open the cdrom drive and put a ubuntu cd in there then install05:03
hybrid_gothbye bye virus05:03
IIIEarslet 'em suffer05:03
flex_anyone know how to turn off when I have the mouse over a mp3 it plays? I must have turned it on somehow05:04
pji see05:04
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pjk thanks05:04
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wingslinehello eveyone05:04
billytwowillyradhaz: my mother had norton on her machine and got tons of viruses/trojans. I just finished upgrading her box because of it05:04
billytwowillypj: what you should do is this: go get norton ghost and xosl05:04
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pjwhere do i go05:04
billytwowillypj: reinstall windows to what you want and put the documents and settings dir on the d drive05:04
weswany "antivirus" program is only a bandaid.  the real fix is not to use windows05:04
thr1cegoogle.com05:04
radhazpj, avg used to be a free antivirus suite but i heard they are payware now05:04
billytwowillythen image the c drive with norton ghost and setup xosl to be able to reinstall from the image at will05:04
pjahh05:04
hybrid_gothea05:04
hybrid_goth**yea05:05
billytwowillytada, no more viruses05:05
pjdamn u guys are fucking smart05:05
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pecklol05:05
benplautso, what's the point of an antivirus for linux?05:05
pji know huh05:05
radhazbilly, the pc's I end up handling that have antivirus issues often stem from people ignoring warnigns/disabling av or not getting updates on windows/av software05:05
weswscan files going to windows boxes05:05
pestilencebenplaut: there will be viruses for linux one day.05:05
pjshit one day05:06
wingslinei have a question: when i change to a theme in ubuntu hoary, the buttons, scrollbars doesn't change, how can this be fixed?05:06
pestilencepj: it's sooner than you think05:06
haydenhow can i install drivers for dis -> ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC AGP (rev 7a)05:06
billytwowillyradhaz: norton was setup to update every day and it was up to date when she bugged me about it being slow05:06
pjenjoy it while it lasts05:06
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IIIEarswesw - Windows OS - needs a ton of "Life support" strong firewall, anti-virus, Registry monitoring, Adware removal, - not many CPU cycles to get real work done.05:06
peckradhaz that's what I find funny. Ppl hate having to handle all the security procedures, but go tell 'em to install a virus free OS... Some even laugh at you. You can always laugh harder of course ;)05:06
billytwowillyradhaz: she is a complete moron when it comes to computers though, she could have turned it off accidently, then on again before I looked at it.05:07
Boohbahpestilence: but they won't be able to spread like windows viruses because of the separation of root and user accounts05:07
weswthere have already been viruses for linux...the first by bell labs was a test.  of course, since fixed05:07
nickrudhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats, hayden05:07
weswIIIEars, true!05:07
pestilenceBoohbah: there are plenty of exploits which allow a user to elevate to root05:07
haydennickrud thanks05:07
nickrudhayden, oops, that's a really old one isn't it05:07
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psoulocybei think firefox has shown that it's a numbers game05:07
Boohbahpestilence: yes, but making them portable enough to affect any sizable number of machines will be impossible05:08
radhazthats my point billy, norton does work but users have to still be attentive.05:08
psoulocybeas more people use any piece of software, more people develop or exploit holes05:08
pjthat fucking sucks05:08
weswIIIEars, however, windows is not without merit.  there is a place for it, just not for me.  but it did get many grandmas online.05:08
IIIEarsDid you guys add "Personality" the OS fingerprint spoofing app?05:08
billytwowillyradhaz: I doubt it was that though. I think norton has just gone downhill. They have destroyed norton ghost too.05:08
psoulocybelinux hits 10% of desktops one day, and you will see virus issues05:08
radhazPeck, I hear you.  But most users are looking for the easiest experience possible hence why so few bother with *nix05:08
weswubuntu will be getting there very quickly  8)05:08
pestilenceBoohbah: more difficult, maybe.  impossible, no.05:08
haydennickrud, yea05:08
billytwowillyradhaz: I should say symantec. I don't really like symantec. They seem to keep buying my favorite proprietary software and ruining it.05:09
pji had kubuntu but i didn't like it05:09
psoulocybe*nix is decades behind mac and win for user friendly... don't ever think one group will bring it up to par in that area05:09
billytwowillylol05:09
peckradhaz, word. But I think OS X is going to rock the boat, as linux keeps pushing windows away from servers05:09
psoulocybeif people catch up to technology, it has a fighting chance at being a popular desktop05:09
billytwowillypsoulocybe: that's just because you're using gnome;)05:09
neighborleepsoulocybe, hmm I missed something apparantly..what happened..and yeah..more  people means bigger target..wouldn't M$ just love to affect useage of firefox <G>05:09
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radhazbillytwowilly, I dont use norton on my xp box myself I use AVG but it's easier to tell folks to get norton.  Plus, norton has a decent customer service support system that they can call rather than my phone05:10
psoulocybelol... i rarely use gnome05:10
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kestasIve never heard this convo before05:10
Boohbahpestilence: there are so many variations between and within distributions to make portable exploits useless05:10
cowbudhahah please don't use breezy ain't that the truth I like ctrl not working correctly in gtk05:10
cowbudgodlike :)05:10
weswpsoulocybe, eventually it is possible.  how much can OS X improve!  do my work for me?? lol05:10
elkidnickrud, hey :)05:10
pestilenceBoohbah: all it takes is one major distro having a bug which requires a patch, and you will have a ton of boxes that are exactly the same with the same vulnerability05:10
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neighborleepsoulocybe, well kde is close and im not pleased anymore with gnome and their idiotic UI ideology05:10
pjwell aight then people take it easy im out05:10
pjpeace05:10
psoulocybenah... i like fluxbox :)  i hate gui for most things05:10
nickrudelkid, hi, things working?05:10
peckpestilence, exactly. that's Windows, no more no less.05:10
psoulocybeflux box is just enough to keep me happy05:11
pestilencepeck: and linux is no better.05:11
IIIEarsLinux is useful enough for the desktop now. - (three weeks ago i thought linux was a character from the Peanuts comic strip)05:11
billytwowillyguys, linux is better than windows xp right now and KDE is easilly better than default windows, gnome is ok as well. It's a number game. Microsoft is too small to beat linux05:11
peckpestilence: 'course not, none is. volume is volume05:11
weswi like fluxbox to.  but it's not for grandmas!05:11
billytwowillyThere are thousands upon thousands of opensource develpers out there vs microsoft.05:11
radhazpeck, I've always been impressed with mac OS/software.  My beef lies with the proprietary hardware. I dont want to buy into a whole new system when Im already neck deep with pc's :/05:11
elkidnickrud, hm its weird works with the distro`s kernel but with mines doesnt dont know why have u any idea?05:11
psoulocybe"Microsoft is too small to beat linux"05:11
psoulocybedid someone really just say that?05:11
neighborleeIIIEars, it is mostly..of course it depends what you need to do ;-)05:11
billytwowillyI did. It's true.05:11
slackuin_nobody beats slackware.  :)05:11
thundrcleezeCan anyone help me setting up a wireless card?05:11
neighborleeIIIEars, and some distros are def. light years ahead of the others as well05:11
slackuin_get off that gui and learn linux.05:12
cowbudhahah05:12
peckpestilence: but Linux is "per se" different. It's open source. So you can have a max of 100 persons using 1 distro if it comes to it05:12
radhazRevelation 0.4.3 anyone using it with Ubuntu05:12
peckradhaz: hear u05:12
weswradhaz, for only $500 you can get a Mac Mini w/ OS X and a whole host of apps...not a big outlay05:12
kestasthundrcleeze: sorry all we do here is argue about desktops and oses05:12
psoulocybelol05:12
radhazwho's having problems with wireless? and what chipset are you using?05:12
thundrcleezeSo it seems, kestas.05:12
psoulocybei'm going to bed05:12
psoulocybenight gents05:12
psoulocybeladies05:12
thundrcleezeradhaz, that's me.05:12
psoulocybe~peace~05:12
limerI <3 ubuntu05:12
pecknight psoulocybe05:13
pestilencepeck: that's security through diversity, i guess.05:13
radhazfor $80 I can score a mini-itx cpu/mobo and throw a spare HD and install any flavor of nix I want :p05:13
elkidnickrud, do u?05:13
thundrcleezeradhaz: it's a linksys, if that's what you mean.05:13
Boohbahpestilence: which is a fraction of the linux market which is a fraction of the total OS market... not big enough to make a difference or cause any real damage in the wild05:13
tekinlachecalc, never mind for the language.05:13
peckpestilence: nicely put, and yes05:13
radhazthundrcleeze, laptop or desktop?05:13
thundrcleezelaptop05:13
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nickrudelkid, do a diff between your config and the distributions, kernel config is a complex thing since 2.605:13
IIIEarshm - i don't see the md5 for Breezy.05:13
radhazthundrcleeze, I just battled the ipw2200 on my laptop and it was a pain05:13
tekinlachecalc, in fact I d like to test the lastest version of my favorite wm desktop (blacbox). hope it s featured in breezy05:13
peckpestilence: but you see, one will always be vulnerable. we all know that. if X wants to hack Y, it's a matter of time/skills05:13
radhazthundrcleeze, but once it was running it was a champ05:14
pestilenceBoohbah: all i'm saying is, if one distro had the popularity of windows, we'd see the exact same problem.05:14
calctekinlache: it has 0.70.005:14
peckpestilence: but today you're a victim of rebounds :p05:14
weswradhaz, never expect a Mfg. to be able to be your commodity setup in price and still provide support05:14
radhazthundrcleeze, have you searched the ubuntu forums?05:14
IIIEarsDoh! - never mind05:14
thundrcleezeNo, not yet, radhaz.05:14
tekinlachecalc, that is real good stuff dude thx a lot05:14
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flex_checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:14
flex_where do I get the X includes05:14
nickrudelkid, I'm not sure just what kernel feature gamin uses, but the diff should find it05:15
radhazwesw, are comparing the support I would recieve from mac to the price I would pay for the mini-itx with no support?05:15
deuce868flex: on breezy?05:15
flex_hoary05:15
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radhazwesw, if you are then I can't argue that.  I don't slag mac's but to quote AP "It's not my bag baby"05:15
tekinlachecalc, do you think that 'll be blackbox update for hoary ?05:15
radhazthundrcleeze, are you dualbooting?05:16
thundrcleezeradhaz, yes.05:16
radhazthundrcleeze, one sec :)05:16
weswradhaz, no problem.  but for the average windows user, they should buy a mac mini.  then the power users all use GNU/Linux or Solaris05:16
kestasflex_: x-window-system-dev05:16
calctekinlache: no idea05:16
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peckwesw: that's been my speech to the virus-help-callers for the past month. "Get a mac mini, or understand your pc and call again to know which distro to install..." :p05:17
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tekinlachecalc, how about to ask for it :)05:17
stuNNedpeck: nice heh, taking risks, eh? :)05:17
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flex_kestas, thanks05:18
calctekinlache: i'm not an ubuntu/motu person05:18
calcso i can't do anything about it05:18
peckstuNNed: just tired of not earning money for virus consulting :P05:18
weswpeck, if only they listen!  then we all could spend more time on Linux et. al.!  Imagine a holiday NOT having to run Spybot for your relatives!05:18
pecklol wesw, hear05:18
radhazthundrcleeze, go to this page http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html on your windows OS.  Install it and run it to get a definite idea as to what your wireless chipset is.  Also what is your laptop make and model?05:19
tekinlachecalc, 'k. thx05:19
peckthe best of course being that nobody wants to pay for an antivirus for windows05:19
stuNNedwesw: lol, yeah05:19
radhazwesw, then there's the unfortunate lot of us forced to use hpux at work :p05:19
calcwell you can get free antivirus for windows05:19
peckthat ppl don't actually pay for their 2nd version of windows05:19
weswan the Mac really is cheaper, if you factor in the life-support software required for windows05:19
weswbesides, you can run all the GNU software easily in X1105:20
peckof course it is!05:20
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calcwesw: you don't need to buy software for antivirus/spyware for windows05:20
wartyhello?05:20
calcwesw: so not sure what huge amount of money for windows software balances the mac cost05:20
stuNNedcalc: to get the good stuff you do ;005:20
benplautpestilence: so why install one now? why not just wait until there are some?05:20
limerwhat are those mac minis going for?05:20
calclimer: $500-60005:20
weswtrue, but if you want to schedule the scans so you can get some work done, you do need to purchase some05:20
stuNNedcalc: and what type of face is that i have no idea! :)05:20
pestilencebenplaut: i don't have one installed :)05:20
radhazPanda will do a FREE antivirus scan at : http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm05:20
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wartystunned no you dont just needa know the right people05:20
peckYou know what? We rambled about windows being what it is for so long without being able to offer a choice, that know we lost all credibility05:20
benplautahh...05:21
limerhuh.  I should just find a used xbox and make it a server :P05:21
pecknow*05:21
Dreamer3ok... i start gnome and it says unable to initialize Hal... any ideas?05:21
radhazRevelation 0.4.3 anyone out there use it?05:21
pestilencebenplaut: just saying, there is a point for antivirus software for linux.05:21
peckbut now there *is* a choice05:21
stuNNedwarty: and be illegal i guess, no thanks.05:21
pestilencebenplaut: no sense in not having it ready.05:21
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wartyno not illegal05:21
wartybesides its only bad if you get cought05:22
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wartylol05:22
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Dreamer3anyone know how hal works and where i should start looking for problems?05:22
wartyFOSS?05:22
weswfree open source software05:22
limercalc: looking at apple's site.  they seem like a good consumer choice, but not sure I can justify the cost05:22
wartyO ok05:22
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calcsupposedly there will be a new mac mini sometime later this summer05:23
tsumemac mini++05:23
calcadaware and avg antivirus are both free05:23
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weswpart dux?05:23
peckthe nano-mac is due in 12 years05:23
peck:p05:23
limergreat idea over at apple05:23
BROKEN_LADDERwhat is the configuration file for grub called?05:23
wartyand spy bot05:23
kaniLiveCDHere's a question... how I can see my windows partition from a LiveCD ?05:23
wartyand avast05:23
limerthey still have Jobs over there?05:23
radhazI heard AVG isnt free anymore?05:23
wartyand lots of others are free and good05:23
radhazwhat about Panda that used to be free?05:23
BROKEN_LADDERkaniLiveCD you should be able to mount it.05:23
calchttp://www.vnunet.com/downloads/112382205:23
pestilencecalc: ok, so they get an F.  what about the other letters? :-D05:23
limeravg is no longer free05:23
calcthat was last updated in mid march05:23
tsumepanda antivirus costs05:23
wartyWhat avg is free05:24
weswAVG free version you can't change scan interval time...bogs down your machine without your permission or control05:24
peckradhaz: it's worth the money now anyway05:24
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wartylook for yourself05:24
limerradhaz: try clamwin05:24
calcpestilence: eh?05:24
kestaskaniLiveCD: sudo mkdir /mnt/Windows; sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/Windows05:24
limermuch better antivirus05:24
tsumeclamav++05:24
radhazlimer, whats that?05:24
kestas/dev/hda1 is the windows partition05:24
limerwww.clamwin.com05:24
calcpestilence: oh wrt FOSS?05:24
wartywesw dont know what your talking about never does anything I dont want it to05:24
pestilencecalc: yes.05:24
kaniLiveCDlet me try that kestas05:24
BROKEN_LADDERwhat is the configuration file for grub called?05:24
calcpestilence: this was an argument about win vs mac for cost effectiveness ;)05:24
radhazpeck, I have avg on my dual-boot desktop.  Its just got poor CS compared to norton05:24
calcpestilence: i wouldn't run windows on anything i didn't have to, just run linux05:25
kestasBROKEN_LADDER: /boot/grub/menu.lst05:25
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BROKEN_LADDERgreat05:25
radhazIve recommended it to ppl and have had complaints05:25
weswwarty, 8am every day it scans and you can't reschdeule the time in the free version - machine comes to a crawl05:25
calcpestilence: but yea someone else pointed out clamav for windows05:25
pestilencecalc: why do you need to run windows at all?05:25
peckradhaz: why did u need CS??05:25
radhazpeck, so I dont steer non pc literate people towards it05:25
wartyYou can change the time05:25
deuce868I'm out, check ya later05:25
wartyI have mine for once a week05:25
calcpestilence: crappy laptop/linux acpi support on linux :\05:25
kaniLiveCDkestas, it works, thank you.05:25
kestasnp05:25
radhazpeck, I dont hence why I use AVG.  I just dont recommend it to non-pc savvy users05:25
weswwarty, only in the pay version.05:25
stuNNedthere is The Open CD for Windows...http://www.theopencd.org/05:25
pestilencecalc: hmm....my laptop works fine :)05:25
wartyNa I dont pay05:25
wartyand I got it from the site05:26
pestilencecalc: what kind?05:26
peckradhaz: from what I've seen, ppl disable norton a lot faster than panda...05:26
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weswas did I, unless they changed it recently.  they even had documented on their site you can't change the time or frequency05:26
calcpestilence: amd64 laptop05:26
wartyI would show you how to do it but I am on the live cd of ubuntu05:26
calcpestilence: it can't do acpi s305:26
radhazpeck, ROFL this is probably true.  Many people don't learn until they get burned.05:27
calcer under linux05:27
pestilencecalc: and windows 64 is better?05:27
rafiHey how do I access nautilus?05:27
weswhell, i don't use windows here, but tried AVG on a few relatives...had to uninstall it05:27
calcpestilence: i dual boot ubuntu amd64 and win32 on it05:27
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kev2123does anyone know how i can see the temperature of my CPU in ubuntu?05:27
peckradhaz: and if they do, they just format and ask for more!05:27
wartywhy did you have to uninstall it?05:27
radhazwesw, soo many choices of antivirus programs... soo many opinions no?05:27
stuNNedkev2123: install lm-sensors ?05:27
calckev2123: load some lm-sensor drivers on it05:27
pestilencecalc: kinda defeats the purpose of having a 64 bit machine, doesn't it?05:27
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weswkev2123 gkrellm is a great package05:27
calcpestilence: it was cheap and fast even at 32bit for the price when i bought it05:27
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kev2123yea i saw gkrelm on google but i couldnt apt-get it05:28
pestilencecalc: s3 = suspend to ram?05:28
calcpestilence: yea05:28
pestilencecalc: how about suspend to disk?05:28
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calcalso known as standby05:28
radhazpeck, Ive been down that road.  The worse ones seem to be user's teenage children, they tend to wreak havoc on pc's and dont care about the data05:28
pestilencecalc: actually, my laptop won't suspend to ram either.  but it will suspend to disk05:28
weswkev2123, if you add universe to your apt sources, you can get it05:28
calcpestilence: suspend to disk works but takes a long time05:28
weswreally cool program05:28
pestilencecalc: yea.  but still beats having to use windows :)05:28
flex_checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.1) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!05:28
radhazpeck, thats when I teach the parents about permission's and user accounts05:28
kev2123wesw:ok thanks so much :) it just seems the fan of my laptop doesnt shut off in ubuntu, im kinda worried05:28
flex_what would qt be called in synaptic or apt-get05:28
calcflex_: libqt3-mt-dev05:28
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radhazpeck, but theres always ways around everything.  Children will be children.  I still get my free meals/pocket change out of the house calls.05:29
peckradhaz: indeed. napster generation is causing havoc ;)05:29
weswkev2123, np.  you still may need to add something like lm-sensors, but gkrellm is a good start for the uninitiated05:29
kev2123wesw: ok thanks :) i will google gkrellm and lm-sensors05:29
peckradhaz: it's a business we're missing, out of goodwillness05:30
=== calc bbl
peck:)05:30
radhazpeck, lol05:30
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pablo928 wesw:what's a more sophisticated app than gkrellm?05:30
pestilencekev2123: you might be able to see the temperature of your laptop with cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature05:30
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weswkev2123, google ubuntu and adding 'universe' to your apt repository, then use synaptic05:30
pestilenceor cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THR2/temperature05:30
new2gentooheya ^thehatsrule^05:30
weswpablo928, sophisticated how?05:31
radhazPASSWORD MANAGER anyone use one rofl?  Im battling Revelation 0.4.3 and currently losing to an error "Revelation could not find its configuration data, please reinstall Revelation."05:31
kestasradhaz: I use one05:31
pablo928wesw, you said that gkrellm is best for the unimiciated, what app is better?05:32
kaniLiveCDBasically sudo works only to use Root commands?05:32
radhazkestas, which do you use? Im not digging FPM.  I like the interface of the revelation found in the ubuntu rep but its so out of date and a lot has been fixed I would like to use a newer version05:32
peckkaniLiveCD: su is superuser... yes05:32
kestasradhaz: wow you dont want to use one which is on a pc05:32
stuNNedkaniLiveCD: no you can sudo another user too05:32
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kestasradhaz: store your passwords encrypted on a pda05:32
radhazkestas, eh?05:32
weswpablo928, not necessarily better or more sophsicated, but lm-sensors, for example, can be command line only05:32
radhazkestas, LOL05:32
radhazkestas, what happens when said pc gets lifted or is lost05:33
kestasradhaz: if you put passwords on a pc anyone with a keylogger will get access to all your accounts05:33
peckstuNNed: really? what's the play?05:33
pablo928wesw, true05:33
carmiendoi'm really really new to linux in general... and i'm having problems getting the wireless on my laptop to work. i'm not sure i understand this ndiswrapper stuff.. what's going on? o.o05:33
weswpablo928, most new users won't prefer that.  also phpsysinfo is pretty good05:33
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stuNNedpeck: sudo -u username ?05:33
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radhazkestas, i dont dispute that; however, I am comfortable enough with my network that at this time to not be too worried about keyloggers05:33
Anubishttp://www.freeciv.org/index.php/Freeciv05:34
peckstuNNed: didn't know05:34
pablo928wesw, i have an issue with my lm sensors, the temps don't agree with the temps in my bios05:34
kestasfreeciv wooo!05:34
dabaSlonya, me too, I have no protection...05:34
peckstuNNed: but I'm a newb :))05:34
stuNNedpeck: me too!05:34
kestasAnubis: want a game later on tonight?05:34
peckstuNNed: :)05:34
Anubissure05:34
dabaSlonwhat do you guys play?05:34
weswpablo928, mine aren't perfect either....have one reporting 170 degree F!  then back to 92F05:34
dabaSlonwhy monitor?05:35
kestasAnubis: will you be here at aroung eeehmmm 0GMT?05:35
weswpablo928, most are very close05:35
AnubisI've been booting into WIndows the play Sid Meiers05:35
AnubisCiv III05:35
carmiendoanybody feel like helping out?05:35
AnubisI'm addicted05:35
dabaSlonha05:35
kestasfreeciv 2 is just as good as sid meirs imho05:35
Anubisand love FReeciv as well05:35
kestasciv 3 was too bloated, I always preferred civ 205:35
rafiHey how do I have gaim auto start when Ubuntu does?05:35
dabaSlon#topic: Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask! |05:35
pestilencecarmiendo: read the topic05:35
Anubissince this new version looks os good I want to try it out05:35
kaniLiveCDI read somewhere in ubuntu site that the first user I make is the one that can use sudo commands... is that right?05:36
elcuis freeciv multiplayer only?05:36
peckrafi: one simple way is to leave it open when you log out and save the session05:36
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dabaSlonfreeciv2:) sweet.05:36
kestaselcu: nope, but its much more fun multiplayer05:36
weswsudo passwd05:36
dabaSlonkani, yes.05:36
pestilencekaniLiveCD: yes05:36
elcubandwidth intensive?05:36
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rafihmmm what is the other way?05:36
kestaselcu: nope not at all05:36
pablo928wesw; my cpu temp is off by abot 2 degerees C and shows the mb and cpu temp reversed05:36
dabaSlonKani, you can also once you install allow other users sudo, or do whatever you like, set it up...05:36
Anubisnot bandwidth intesive at all05:36
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pestilencekaniLiveCD: you can add more with sudo visudo05:37
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carmiendopestilence: i asked about ndiswrapper.. you saying it's in the faq? sorry....05:37
kaniLiveCDsudo visudo ... sounds fun :P05:37
sbcl3is it possible for me to put the kernel on one small 50mb partition and then put all programs on another?05:37
pestilencecarmiendo: no, i was saying just ask :)05:37
BROKEN_LADDERwhen i install a new kernel, is there some command i can run so that grub will update it's setting to point to the new one?05:37
pestilencemaybe i missed your question05:37
rafipeck:  what is the other way?05:37
carmiendohehe05:37
carmiendomaybe.05:37
Anubiselcu, you could play the computer to test yourself05:37
peckrafi only know the one simple way. never saw that option on gaim. maybe you'll want to specify the command05:37
kestassbcl3: yes05:37
dabaSloncarmiendo: no, he means just ask the question.05:37
weswpablo928, now you know how much to adjust your temps!  really, who says your BIOS temps are even more accurate?05:37
sbcl3can i set synaptic to put programs to a different place?05:37
Anubisstart civserver05:37
carmiendoi diiid! psh...05:37
dabaSlonyou guys type fast...05:37
stuNNedanyone run winex in ubuntu?05:37
rafipeck:  ah, I was wondering if I could do it like how I auto start firestarter maybe05:37
carmiendoi'm trying to make wireless work. but i'm not understanding this ndiswrapper stuff, cause i'm new.05:38
carmiendo.05:38
radhazdabaslon, why do you say that?05:38
kestasstuNNed: dont bother05:38
stuNNedkestas: lol why?05:38
sbcl3kestas: is the way to do that install the base system (server installation) on a small partition then set synaptic to put programs on another partition?05:38
kestasstuNNed: not worth the hassle05:38
radhazdabaslon, its the one handed typers you have to watch out for05:38
elcuAnubis: yeah, i've never tried it.  i might take a look.05:38
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peckrafi, not familiar with firestarter05:38
dabaSlonrad, nothing. carmiendo, what part is not clear?05:38
stuNNedkestas: you've tried?05:38
kestassbcl3: nope no way to do that really05:38
pablo928wesw, i tweaked the multiplier on my multiplier  in gkrellm to match the bios temp. Hope that the bios is righ.05:38
kestasstuNNed: yup05:38
pestilencecarmiendo: have you installed ndiswrapper-utils ?05:38
rafipeck:  firestarter is a firewall you can get through synaptic05:38
kaniLiveCDYou know, in this afternoon messing around with this LiveCD I click on Lock Windows and It locked it lol I didn't know what was the password and I have to restart my pc :(05:38
peckradhaz: ever *seen* one?05:38
kestasstuNNed: spent 3 days trying to get winex 3 working well05:38
dabaSloncarmiendo: you are supposed to install some kind of emulator, and then use your windows driver, something along those lines.05:38
Anubiselcu, its a lot of fun if you can defend yourself05:39
carmiendodabaSlon, just kindof in general, i know that i am supposed to use it, but i don't know any details about what i'm supposed to do.05:39
stuNNedkestas: what was the prob?05:39
radhazpeck, seen one what?05:39
peckrafi, it has an "auto-start" option embedded?05:39
carmiendopestilence, no....05:39
kestasstuNNed: had very limited sucess, when I got it working it only played very limited about of game very buggy05:39
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dabaSlonkani, ha:-p05:39
pestilencecarmiendo: ok, so there's step 105:39
weswpablo928, all the BIOS i've delt with are close, but none are spot on.  my temps should never be so hot that a few degrees C is critical05:39
kestasstuNNed: so I aquired cedega, and it was only slightly better, but still buggy and crap05:39
peckradhaz: single-hand typists05:39
elcuAnubis: i've never been good at rts games though (starcraft etc.)05:39
kestasstuNNed: forget lpaying windows games on linux, it just doesnt work05:39
dabaSloncarmiendo: so, exact commands, you mean?05:39
stuNNedkestas: yeah with new hal and all of that05:39
radhazpeck, uhm no comment rofl05:39
pecklol05:39
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stuNNedkestas: i got mohaa to work w/winex/transgaming want to get moh:vietnam working05:40
dabaSloncarmiendo: you know your card is supported?05:40
stuNNedkestas: mohaa works pretty well though untested on ubuntu05:40
brandonneven in vmware gaming doesn't always work that well05:40
kestasstuNNed: well youve already dont better than most05:40
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kestasstuNNed: I barely managed to get C&C generals working, even thought its one of cedegas best supported games05:40
carmiendodabaSlon, i'm not necessarily asking you guys to do the work for me.. ^_^ ...but i am pretty clueless...05:40
dabaSlonpeck, lol tsk...05:40
stuNNedbrandonn: why would it, the vidcard only uses vga drivers right?05:40
kestasfull of bugs05:40
rafipeck:  I think it automatically starts maybe from what some people said on the Ubuntu forums, but I found some instructions of have to manually set some stuff to get it to auto start by editing some things and then adding it so it would start automatically05:40
carmiendoyeah, i'm pretty sure it's supported.05:40
pablo928wesw, true,but i'm very delicate about my cpu temp. OI've an athlon xp 2500 running about 43 degrees C w/ no oc05:40
BROKEN_LADDERonce i change grub's settings, do i need to run something, like you have to run lilo when you edit lilo.conf? anyone?05:41
stuNNedkestas: not too encouraging05:41
rafipeck:  well so you can see it in the tray that is05:41
kestasBROKEN_LADDER: nope05:41
BROKEN_LADDERoh..neat05:41
BROKEN_LADDERgrub sounds better05:41
dabaSlonk, pestilence, you seen that wiki for ndiswrapper? I never read it...if you can guide him...05:41
stuNNedkestas: BROKEN_LADDER: have to run update-grub don't ya?05:41
kestasBROKEN_LADDER: grub is generally thought of as more flexible but complex05:41
peckrafi you've managed to get gaim going on the sys tray right?05:41
kestasstuNNed: nope shouldnt have to05:41
brandonnstuNNed: honestly I don't know, I just barely started using vmware, but I have some kids games that every time I try to start them, the screen just goes black and vmware pops out of full screen mode05:41
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kestasstuNNed: grub loads menu.lst on bootup05:41
BROKEN_LADDERkestas yeah no kiddin05:42
dabaSlonpeck, it goes there, in gnome...05:42
rafipeck:  well right now, but I want it to automatically start without me clicking on it05:42
weswpablo928, that's HOT!  i hope that was load temp.  perhaps just buy a better heatsink and forget about it?  I barely hist 105F underload here.05:42
BROKEN_LADDERme restarts05:42
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dabaSlonwhich, gaim at startup, rafi?05:42
BROKEN_LADDERit seems that when i installed the new kernel, it changed menu.1st for me.05:42
peckdabaSlon: yes05:42
BROKEN_LADDERor .lst or whatever05:42
stuNNedkestas: afaik in ubuntu if any changes made need to run update-grub but could be mistaken05:42
pestilencecarmiendo: install ndiswrapper-utils, download the windows driver for your card, then skip to step 4 of this howto05:42
pestilencecarmiendo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3192605:42
dabaSlonSystem>Prefs>Session>startupprogs05:42
pestilencecarmiendo: that should do it.05:42
pablo928wesw, no i can go above 120 F underload05:43
kestasstuNNed: I dont think so05:43
peckrafi: see that?05:43
kestasstuNNed: well see I gues05:43
carmiendopestilence, i have windows on another partition. is there an easy way to get the drivers from over there?05:43
carmiendoor should i just find them online and redownload them again?05:43
dabaSlonjust type in gaim in the add dialog05:43
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rafidabaSlon I gaim the instant messenger, I want it to automatically start when Ubuntu does, and I was wondering how to do it.05:43
pablo928wesw, you have a amd proc?05:43
dabaSlonhehe05:43
dabaSlonanyhow, yeah, carmiendo, whats the make and model?05:44
pestilencecarmiendo: probably, but you might have to boot into windows to figure out which drivers are for your card...might be easier to just download them again05:44
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weswpablo928, dual xeon http://marine.dnsalias.com/phpsysinfo/index.php also for sale soon http://marine.dnsalias.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=3805:44
dabaSlonwell, if he has the cd, I hear its even better.05:44
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eater773need some help.... how can i mount my floopy drive ???05:44
dabaSlonmount floppy05:44
peckrafi dabaSlon said you can go to System>Prefs>Session>startupprogs and just add gaim05:44
weswpablo928 have a dual opteron enroute now05:44
eater773just a newbie in ubuntu...05:44
pestilenceprobably need a sudo in front of that.05:45
dabaSlonwesw: uptime:)05:45
pestilencesudo mount /media/floppy might work better05:45
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weswdabaSlon, easy with Linux/*nix!05:45
dabaSlonI turned mine off the other day, it was 100%processor all the time.05:45
pestilenceor maybe sudo mount /media/floppy005:45
pablo928wesw, these amd cpus seem to run hotter than intel, but i understand they aren't a problem until above 60 C05:45
carmiendodabaSlon, it's a dell inspiron 600m, so the wireless is.. uh, broadcom bcm94306 802.11g05:46
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dabaSlonsweet, try that.05:46
eater773where will i put that command05:46
dabaSlonwell you better poke it.05:46
dabaSlonin a termina05:46
weswpablo928, the last AMD i had (2100+) i read specs on, like you said, rated to 70C or so cricitcal, good heatsink, then forget about it.05:46
carmiendohahaha05:46
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peckdabaSlon: u on coke and answering every question? :p05:47
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rafidabaSlon when I add gaim should I add:  -start--hidden   ?05:47
weswpablo928, but be sure it's mounted properly and clean the fan/heatsink 1 or 2 times a year05:47
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pablo928wesw, when i was running windows and gaming i used to see temps of almost 60 C05:47
limerpeck: the "I" bro?05:47
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limerMiller High Life :-&05:47
pecklimer zeppeling, album I05:47
dabaSlonshould you?05:48
peckzeppelin*05:48
limerpeck: album II05:48
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weswpablo928, could be case airflow as well.  but still within specs.05:48
eater773it say specify filesystem type ???05:48
pecklimer lol ok go :p05:48
pablo928wesw, oh i keep it clean and have enough fans in my box that it sounds like a vacuum cleaner05:48
limergrip takes forever in linux05:48
limerI do miss EAC05:48
dabaSlonpeck, screw that.......................05:48
peckdabaSlon: screw what?05:49
weswpablo928, 9 fans in my last AMD....they reason i moved away.  times have changed, AMD now operating cooler than Intels05:49
rafiI was just wondering if adding gaim -start--hidden would work, so I guess so, cool.05:49
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dabaSlonyeah, youre on coke........05:49
eater773it say specify filesystem type ???05:49
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pablo928wesw, i've i 80mm intake , 1 80mm ehaust and another 60mm exhaust05:49
rafiMy cpu fan is running at 7200 rpm05:50
peckdabaSlon lol i hope u aren't on coke in front of your pc :p05:50
thundrcleezeAnyone know anything about wireless networks in windows?05:50
pecklol thundrcleeze05:50
rafiI have an Amd and I have intake and exhaust too I think they are 80 mm05:50
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radhazPASSWORD MANAGER anyone use one rofl?  Im battling Revelation 0.4.3 and currently losing to an error "Revelation could not find its configuration data, please reinstall Revelation."05:50
thundrcleezeI know it's a bit off topic, peck.05:50
dabaSlonpeck, I hope you dont shoot up...05:51
peckthundrcleeze: most unexpected, that's all :) any question in particular?05:51
dabaSlonX(05:51
pablo928rafi, with that much speed don't mount it backwards or it might fly05:51
weswpablo928, anything under 120mm to me anymore is loud.  but you might have enough airflow, but poor conductivity to your heatsink.  hell, maybe not much economically you can do to fix it.05:51
dabaSlonbah05:51
dabaSlonlol05:51
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peckdabaSlon lol05:51
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dabaSlonanyhow.05:51
pablo928wesw; i have factory amd cpu heatsink and fan05:52
eater773pestilence still there ???05:52
dabaSloncarmiendo: yup, its got support.05:52
kestaswesw whats the asking price?05:52
drbsay, is the ubuntu kernel still called "kernel-image" ?05:52
weswpablo928, as my last AMD came with, and never was used.  aftermarket heatsink and artic silver is good05:52
carmiendodabaSlon, i think i'm installing the right driver, but when i do ndiswrapper -l it says the hardware isn't present..05:52
kestasdrb- linux-image I think05:52
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dabaSlonit will show up.05:52
pablo928wesw, been running like this since i built the box about 8 months ago05:52
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tsumeI've a tornado fan 80x80x32. Making noise the fan does at 54Db05:52
weswkestas $950, details here:  http://marine.dnsalias.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=3805:53
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rafipablo928 lol, its okay, its not that fast either I figure by clocking it that high it could maybe extend the cpu life span, plus the medium speed is 4800 rpm which wasn't recommended for my AMD XP 2.0 +05:53
tsumedB05:53
dabaSloncarmiendo: hows it goin'?05:53
eater773sudo mount /media/floppy0 -- filesystem type ??? need help05:53
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tsumemy mac speed is 7200 rpm ;)05:53
weswpablo928, then i wouldn't worry much.  you've passed the BURNIN!05:53
pecklol limer really is setting the party up05:53
tsume*max05:53
dabaSloneater773: he gave you a weird command.05:53
limeryou're damn right bro05:53
dabaSlonjust a sec, eater77305:53
limerthis place needs a drunk like me05:53
carmiendodabaSlon, i dunno. i'm not sure if i'm getting the right driver05:53
pablo928rafi, my oem fan runs about 4200 rpm05:53
eater773pls...05:53
tsumemy CPI stays at a constant 89F ;)05:54
carmiendocause when i do ndiswrapper -l it says i don't have the hardware.. ?05:54
tsumecold power05:54
peckit's 5:53 am here, I was out 'till 4. am already on limer, catch up :))05:54
limerthese guys are so linux I'm not sure naked blondes could get them to chill for a minute05:54
tsume*CPU05:54
limerpeck: whoa!05:54
weswwrong limer!05:54
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dabaSloneater, is the floppy inside?05:54
limerlol05:54
eater773yes05:54
limerthat got ONE guy's attention05:54
limer:P05:54
pecklol05:54
tsumewho's system here is the coldest? ;)05:54
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weswalways, but i prefer brunettes05:54
peckand the only gay05:54
thundrcleezepeck?05:54
tsumemy system stays at 84F on a hot day05:54
peckthundrcleeze ?05:54
dabaSloneater773: how about, places, computer, filesystem, media, floppy0?05:55
rafihair color doesn't matter to me05:55
pablo928 wesw, yes and now i'm considering building a amd 64 box05:55
thundrcleezepeck, I sent you a /msg, I didn't know if you got it or not.05:55
rafiI like all colors of the rainbow as I saw05:55
rafi*say05:55
peckoh05:55
eater773just a sec...05:55
tsumerafi: hair sucks. Bald chicks++ ;)05:55
rafilol05:55
dabaSlonrafi, added?05:55
dabaSlonlog out, back in to see if it starts.05:55
dabaSlon:-p05:56
weswpablo928, get a nice case with 120mm exhaust and variable temp fan speeds.  i've used Antec Sonata's and they are good for home-built boxes05:56
tsumerafi: actually its a developing fashion statement. Bald is a fashion statement for men and women05:56
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dabaSlonyeah, and small...05:56
rafiActually I knew a grew who shaved her head down with some cutter not razored, but with trimmers, she didn't look that great, I thought she was more sexy with the hair05:56
rafi*girl05:56
dabaSlona grew...05:56
limerwesw: you only prefer brunettes cause you like those "thinking" girls05:56
limer;)05:56
tsumerafi: you have to be a army-like person for bald to be sexy05:56
radhazAnyone here know how to trick Synaptic to IGNORE what it calls BROKEN (but actually working) packages like gimpshop?05:57
tsumerafi: strong chicks are the best.05:57
weswlimer, perhaps.  and they just look so damn hott05:57
Burgundaviarafi, tsume, limer this is completely offtopic, please take it elsewhere05:57
pablo928wesw: 120mm = lots of cfm and quieter!05:57
limer:P  Laetitia Casta =P~05:57
dabaSlonsudo apt-get install -f05:57
limersexy woman05:57
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radhaztsume, gi jane /drool05:57
radhazdabaslon, was that to me?05:57
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limerit's offtopic and late05:57
weswpablo928, exactly!  lower rpm for same air movement = you can hear yourself think05:57
dabaSlonI guess.05:57
tsumeradhaz: hell yes.05:57
rafiI was wondering how this topic came up, so what is nautilus and where do I access it?05:57
dabaSlonI just read the text:-p05:58
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limerthere's always one isn't there05:58
tsumeradhaz: wrestle in the wild having passionate sex ;)05:58
radhaztsume, LOL05:58
dabaSlonhahaha...tsume...05:58
Razor-Xwow, hah, never thought a Linux chat would deviate this far05:58
limerit always seems to do that when I'm around05:58
dabaSlonrazor, hows the theory?05:58
Burgundaviatsume, radhaz, limer I am quite serious about this being offtopic05:58
tsumeradhaz: GI Jane, linux hero! ;)05:58
pablo928wesw:of course another reason for my temps is that i'm in yuma az, i have to keep the ac running or shut down05:58
Razor-Xwell, i'm having to iron that one hitch05:58
limerBurgundavia: are you op?05:58
carmiendodabaSlon, so if it says 'hardware not present' after i try to use ndis on the windows driver, what does that mean?05:59
Razor-Xthe thing is.... I'm a half to do a one-to-one correspondance05:59
Razor-Xwhich.... I don't know how05:59
dabaSlondid you follow the steps?05:59
Burgundavialimer, no, but I can call one in05:59
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Razor-X(unless there are some math people here who would care to help)05:59
weswpablo928, i've done some training in yuma!  at least it's dry heat [mostly] .05:59
limerBurgundavia: whatever bro05:59
limercall one in05:59
tsumeBurgundavia: if it really bothers you, ignore if your friend.05:59
pablo928wesw:marines?05:59
tsumeBurgundavia: this is a community channel05:59
dabaSlonhaha05:59
carmiendoyeah, i just downloaded the driver, and then went to step4 and tried to load it.05:59
dabaSlonBurgundavia: :)05:59
weswpablo928, Semper Fi!05:59
dabaSlonHah06:00
dabaSlondudes:)06:00
limer:P06:00
carmiendodo you think i need to get the other version of ndiswrapper, like in the first steps?06:00
limerohhh!06:00
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radhazdpkg -i --force-overwrite ./gimp_2.2.4-1_i386.deb is what im using to install it, but Synaptic swears its BROKEN06:00
rafiRazor-X what math, beginning calculus I can do like basic derivatives and integrals06:00
Razor-Xrafi: hah, in fact, at school, i'm technically in Geometry ;)06:00
bob2radhaz: er, why are you using --force-install on anything?06:00
Razor-Xi'm a Freshman with an idea, that's all06:00
limeruh oh!  Geometry is offtopid06:00
pablo928wesw:supposed to be about 105 F here all week06:00
dabaSloncarmiendo, find out more about the card, and I have the page...so do you...06:00
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Razor-XI can do some basic Calculus too06:00
Razor-Xheh06:00
radhazbob2, it wont install due to conflicts06:00
BROKEN_LADDERanyone know of any good instructions on compiling alsa-tools?06:00
rafiOh so Razor-X are you talking to one to one functions then?06:01
nate____anyone know a good interface maker for programming languages?06:01
jsw1Hello.  I could use some thoughts .. some have recommended using debian sarge over ubuntu.  But I like the feel and philosophy of the ubuntu folks.06:01
bob2radhaz: where on earth did you get it from?06:01
rafi*about06:01
Razor-Xi'm talking about one-to-one set correspondance06:01
bob2radhaz: please tell me you're not using breezy06:01
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Razor-Xlike the thing Cantor did to prove his Continuum Hypothesis06:01
Razor-X*try to prove06:01
tsumebob2: I use breezy :)06:01
radhazbob2, I got it from one of the gimpshop mirrors.  codemill page perhaps. cant remember.  No im on hoary06:01
bob2erk06:01
weswpablo928, typically upper 90's here in the summer, but 95-110% humidity!  8)06:01
Razor-Xbut, see, all I know about a one-to-one correspondance, is that, you can do something with arctan06:01
eater773dabaSlon -> location: computer:///  .. volume: root volume06:02
Razor-Xand, that's where my knowledge ends06:02
carmiendodabaSlon, i doublechecked the drivers on the dell website, so i'm sure i have the right ones. what else could be the problem? i'm not sure how he could tell that ndiswrapper1-1 didn't work... maybe i'm having that problem too?06:02
radhazbob2: Theres no gimpshop in the repositories that I can find otherwise I would happily use that :)06:02
bob2radhaz: what's wrong with gimp in hoary?06:02
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eater773dabaSlon -> location: computer:///  .. volume: root volume06:02
pablo928wesw:ouch! you must be in the midwest06:02
bob2radhaz: I'd really really recommend finding another way to get it06:02
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bob2if you really think you need it06:02
weswFlorida  8)06:02
bob2installing random broken .debs will break things badly06:02
radhazbob2: gimpshop != gimp.   Gimpshop is for us photoshop users06:02
dabaSlonjust pastebin everything you do, the whole process.06:02
eater773dabaSlon -> location: computer:///  .. volume: root volume06:02
weswBeach!06:02
HrdwrBoBspend five minutes learning how to use gimp.06:02
limerdamn it, lost my buzz06:02
radhazbob2: it formats gimp to resemble photoshop06:02
stuNNedbob2: possible my problems with nothing but grey panels and blank background could be using testing 'human' icons?06:02
HrdwrBoBit's not very hard06:02
bob2radhaz: I know what it is, it's gimp with the ui moved around a bit06:02
rafiRazor-X I'm not quite sure what you mean by one to one set correspondence, or I do and just don't know it by name.06:02
dabaSloneater, I was drinking water:)06:02
bob2radhaz: why are you installing their gimp then?06:03
Razor-Xrafi: when you prove the cardinality of one set is equal to one06:03
radhazbob2: yes.  Im happy with it. Synaptic is not.06:03
weswGimp is worth the time to learn...saves you $$$ over photoshop!06:03
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eater773pls .. tell me.. where can i get that info.06:03
Razor-Xproving that one set has the same number of elements of another06:03
dabaSloneater773: did you go through the places menu on the top of your screen?06:03
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dabaSlonas I said, scroll up.06:03
Razor-Xbut, I also have to go more specific than that, and prove whether two sets are equal or not06:03
radhazbob2: Im installing gimpshop because...I like it?06:03
radhazbob2: because its not in the repository?06:03
bob2radhaz: the package you're trying to force in with a blunt screwdriver is called "gimp"06:03
dabaSlonplaces, computer, filesystem, media, floppy0?06:04
bob2please tell me their not so dumb as to package gimpshop in a package called gimp06:04
Kelbob2: There's an addon to The Gimp called GimpShop06:04
bob2er, they're06:04
eater773yes...  then computer.. floppy drive -- then properties06:04
radhazbob2: yes I know this.  but the Package I am trying to force in is gimp rolled withthe "shop" format06:04
CarlKcan an IR port be used for tcp/ip?06:04
bob2Kel: so, it's an add-on for an existing install of gimp, not a new package?06:04
bob2CarlK: yes...06:04
eater773dabaSlon -> yes...  then computer.. floppy drive -- then properties06:04
KelIt "styles" the Gimp to look like and act like Photoshop for people who aren't used to The Gimp yet06:04
KelNo, I think it's a completely seperate install of The Gimp06:05
dabaSlonwhat properties? just double click the floppy, just like anywhere.06:05
KelI haven't used it yet though, keep meaning to06:05
HrdwrBoBif you can use photoshop well enough to need gimpshop06:05
CarlKbob2 - any idea how?06:05
limerppl like Burgundavia just piss me off.  rrrr.  I need more beer06:05
HrdwrBoByou should be smart enough to figure out gimp in a few minutes06:05
dabaSlonhaha, limer.06:05
radhazGimpshop, is a complete install of gimp as is being stated06:05
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bob2radhaz: I'm just confused why they packaged it so badly then06:05
Razor-Xwhat architecure would this mobo+proc be classified as? http://www.bwi.com/proot/1378706:05
rafiRazor-X I'm not sure if I can help I think I would have to look over a math book a little first06:05
KelHrdwrBoB: I'm lame when it comes to re=learning short-cut keys :-\06:05
KelThat's the only reason I don't use it, lol06:06
HrdwrBoBKel: most of them are the same anyway06:06
KelI'm much faster in Photoshop on a Mac cause I'm used to it's hotkeys.06:06
eater773floppy inside.... double click... message "unable to mount" could not determine filesystem type....06:06
Razor-Xrafi: can you? my parents forbid overtly obvious higher-level math books06:06
bob2radhaz: if it's actually seperate, it should be a seperate package06:06
HrdwrBoBfor the basic stuff06:06
weswRazor-X = Mini ITX06:06
dabaSloncarmiendo: what did you conclude?06:06
Kelthere's a few sgtrange ones that are different06:06
radhazbob2: I can't answer that as it is beyond my knowledge.  I would love for someone to fix it and place it in the repository but until that happens I am forced to use whats available06:06
rafiRazor-X:  It's been a while I took geometry about 6-7 years ago06:06
bob2Razor-X: i38606:06
Razor-Xwesw: I thought that was just a form factor06:06
bob2radhaz: install it from source or something06:06
Kelbut for the most part, yes, they're very similar.06:06
Razor-Xrafi: heh, it's not Geometry, it's higher-level math06:06
bob2radhaz: forcing it in will break things06:06
dabaSloncarmiendo: there is a list of drivers here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/List?PHPSESSID=945bcecf080b67c5c1c9bd4d1fbf37cd06:06
Razor-XGeometry is a sad excuse for a math level06:06
carmiendodabaSlon, i have the right driver..06:06
weswRazor-X, sorry.  correct.  no idea processor class.06:07
carmiendoit's still not working though.06:07
radhazbob2:  well I got lucky, nothing is/was broken and ive been running it for several weeks after wedging it in there06:07
garnertrevening all06:07
pablo928bob2:when i looked on the developer's site the other day the only stable of Gimpshop was a rpm, they haqd a deb package they said use at own risk06:07
Razor-XI could have slept through the class and still gotten the same A06:07
carmiendoafter i load the driver it says 'hardware not present'06:07
radhazbob2: my single complaint is synaptic uninstalls it every chance it gets06:07
Razor-Xwesw: damn, i'm going to try and create an embedded system on that proc06:07
weswRazor-X, have you considered a Mac Mini?  You can run Linux on it!06:07
bob2Razor-X: then put it on hold06:07
Razor-Xbut, not the same exact mobo+proc06:07
radhazbob2: perhaps I will tackle it from source one weekend06:07
Razor-Xwesw: too expensive, and way too multitasking for my purpose06:07
dabaSlondid you set up the router as it said, and, there is no wlan0 in your interfaces in the System>Admin>Networking GUI?06:07
Boohbahmac mini is teh sux06:08
Razor-XI just need a simple kernel bootup and load up one program06:08
weswahh....06:08
IIIEars_away   mac mini - slow bus speed06:08
Razor-Xand sound drivers06:08
Razor-Xthat's _it_06:08
weswit's not meant for powerusers06:08
weswma a pa kettle is the target audience06:08
dabaSlonpowahUsah.06:09
Razor-XI'm putting 32 MB of RAM on it, and it's a 300 mhz clock speed06:09
carmiendodabaSlon, where does it say to change my router? and uh. i don't know where that is...06:09
IIIEars_away3 grand for a useful computer - sheesh06:09
Razor-Xwhich is still pretty generous for what I need it, but the combo is only about $60 (with the RAM)06:09
weswRazor-X, how about a handheld device like a Zarius?06:09
dabaSloncarmiendo: on the top of your screen, as I said.06:09
Razor-XI could do that06:10
dabaSlonSystem, and so on...06:10
Razor-Xbasically, i'm going to create a digital music box06:10
carmiendodabaSlon: ah, i found it. no, there isn't; only lo and eth006:10
sbcl3after i restart x with ctrl + alt + F1, how do i get back go this GUI?06:10
limerok, done talking with Burg06:10
peckRazor-X: where/how it'll be used?06:10
dabaSlonok, well, lets read the wiki on that...06:10
limereveryone who thinks I'm way too offtopic may say so now06:10
Razor-Xbootup into CLI, no monitor, then auto-load MP3 player (no need for MIDI stuff), and keep looping it over and over, until power is cut06:10
tsumesbcl3: alt f706:10
Razor-Xpeck: portable if possible06:10
pecklimer, grab another beer06:10
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weswRazor-X, for running Air Snort?06:10
weswlol06:10
limerthx bro06:11
Razor-Xnopes ;)06:11
limer:P06:11
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bob2wow06:11
peck:)06:11
Razor-Xfor a friend (no, she has a boyfriend already ;) )06:11
bob2CarlK: it's a pp device06:11
dabaSloncarmiendo: did you follow this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto .06:11
bob2er, serial06:11
bob2run ppp over it or whatever06:11
IIIEars_awayRazor-X - How old is the machine? - How do you get around any limits old machines have in bios on drive size?06:11
Razor-Xit's totally new06:11
peckRazor-X: for her house, will she connect it to her stereo system, will she stream the music, don't get it06:11
IIIEars_awaycool06:11
Razor-Xit's about.... 17 cm x 17 cm06:11
dabaSloneater773: got it at all?06:11
Razor-Xpeck: I'll have to buy an ok mono speaker, and place it in, which will auto play it in the box itself06:12
limerwoot06:12
estebandidohey... has anyone been able to install ubuntu on a g5?06:12
IIIEars_awayfun project. :)06:12
bob2estebandido: it should work using the poer4 kernel06:12
peckRazor-X: what's the use?06:12
limeryou know, Miller High Life isn't so bad once your half drunk :P06:12
bob2er, power406:12
Razor-Xwhich will mean a hell of a lot of mechanical skill (which i'll have to develop on this ove project) and some pretty special embedded stuff06:12
Razor-Xpeck: music box06:12
weswestebandido, i've heard it's been done, but not done it myself06:12
peckRazor-X: still don't get it!06:12
estebandidobob2, what's that?06:13
Razor-Xrather than spend $300 on a custom music box, it's easier to spend about $80 to get it all done06:13
bob2estebandido: hit f1 on the install and read the help, you need to boot the power4 kernel06:13
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peckRazor-X: not easier, cheaper06:13
ubuntuhi06:13
peck;)06:13
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IIIEars_awayRazor-X - Certainly more more rewarding and interesting06:13
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weswtrue that peck!06:13
weswlol06:13
dabaSlonhi, ubuntu.06:13
estebandidoon the install? i can't even get the machine to see the cd06:13
ubuntuwoot06:14
dabaSlon:)06:14
garnertrwelcome to my world06:14
peckRazor-X: she wants to listen to mp3/blahformats files?06:14
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bob2estebandido: do you know how to get macs to boot the cd in general?06:14
dabaSlonestebandido: you mean like boot from it? did you try holding down c?06:14
estebandidohold down c06:14
Razor-Xpeck: i'll be using a 17 cm x 17 cm mobo + proc, with about 32 MB of RAM, it has 300 mhz clock speed, a small flash disk will contain the OS which auto-bootsup into CLI, loads sound drivers, and then opens up an MP3 player that takes up 1 MB RAM + size of MP3 until you forcefully cut power, which will be a depressable switch triggered by opening and closing the box06:14
dabaSlonhah, so you did...06:14
estebandidoright, got that much06:14
Razor-Xpeck: just one song, she has it in MIDI, but I don't want to have to go to the hassle of doing something with the hardcoding of the MIDI instruments06:15
bob2estebandido: have you done it successfully before?06:15
bob2estebandido: you have to hit it at the exact right time06:15
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weswRazor-X, with all that work and only playing MP3?  What about OGG VORBIS????06:15
estebandidoi just hold it from the chime06:15
peckRazor-X: AH! A "Music Box" lol. Got it!!06:15
bob2estebandido: but have you ever managed to boot a cd on a mac?06:15
Razor-Xhehehehe XD06:15
estebandidoi was able with warty, but then it wouldn't install06:15
limerwoot.  burg is gonna go fuck himself :P06:15
peckBut why on earth??!!06:15
pecklol!06:15
limerthat beer did the trick06:15
Razor-Xwesw: I don't know if OGG requires the same overhead, or not06:16
estebandidonow i have hoary06:16
bob2estebandido: ok06:16
estebandidobut i had to ask a friend to burn it for me06:16
Razor-Xif I _could_, i'ld make it run FLAC, but there's no point wasting the disk-space06:16
pecklimer, gonna get me some more water, another aspirin, and consider sleeping06:16
weswRazor-X, probably a little more CPU, but not much [relative!]  more06:16
bob2estebandido: check the md5sum of the cd06:16
dabaSlonhe... estebandido, do you know how your hard disk has to eb partitioned to work for a ubuntu install dual boot with X?06:16
limerpeck: cool bro.  don't let oppressors get you down06:16
Razor-Xwesw: can it work on a 300 mhz proc?06:16
BROKEN_LADDERanyone know how to get libasound for ubuntu?06:16
estebandidodabaSlon, i'm going all the way06:16
BROKEN_LADDERall is see is libasound206:16
pecklimer, they did, that's why I need that aspirin06:16
weswRazor-X, how about u tell us?  8)06:16
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peck:p06:17
dabaSlonoh, then, should be better.06:17
Razor-Xwesw: heh06:17
dabaSlonwhy wont it install?06:17
dabaSlon:)06:17
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: what are you trying to do?06:17
estebandidothat's what i'm here to figure out06:17
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Razor-Xafter I go through that much trouble, i'm not gonna get it spoiled for OGG format screwups06:17
weswrazor-x, mp3 is more compatable now.06:17
dabaSlongo check what bob said, I guess.06:17
limeryeah, Ithink this burg guy is cool deep down06:17
estebandidook, let me see about that check5sum06:17
bob2estebandido: you need to check the md5sum of the cd06:17
estebandidoer, right06:17
limer*real* deep down06:17
Razor-Xit's gonna be a hell of a project, but if all goes well, I can build myself one as well06:17
pecklimer what colors make him?06:18
Razor-Xwith potential as more than just a 1 song music box06:18
limer?06:18
peckRazor-X: I hope so06:18
Razor-Xhell, I could a portable MP3 player, if I get this right06:18
peckRazor-X: if not, u'll start composing06:18
BROKEN_LADDERdoh..i needed the dev files.06:18
Razor-Xfor about the same price I got it for ;)06:18
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 compile envy24control06:18
weswrazor-x, your $80 version of the $99 mac shuffle, but yours only shuffles through one song!  8P06:18
Razor-Xpeck: heh06:18
BROKEN_LADDERto make my computer into a digital recording studio06:18
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bob2lord06:18
Razor-Xwell, it can shuffle through as many as you wan06:18
Razor-X*want06:19
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: it doesn't care about the difference between libasound1 and libasound206:19
weswrazor-x, i was j/k06:19
Razor-Xrather, fits in the flash disk ;)06:19
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: install libasound-dev06:19
peckRazor-X: yeah, but can only HOLD one...06:19
Razor-Xhehe, i see06:19
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 as i just said, i installed the -dev part and it works now.06:19
BROKEN_LADDERthanks06:19
limerpeck: not sure I caught that bro06:19
carmiendodabaSlon: so i went through the first part of that setup page, and reinstalled ndiswrapper06:19
IIIEars_awayCould you add a USB or ide interface to the ipod shuffle?06:19
Razor-Xplus! the iShuffle doesen't have Linux!06:19
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 when compiling envy24control, is checkinstall a proper way to do it in ubuntu?06:19
dabaSlonaha...06:20
carmiendodabaSlon: but now it says 'invalid driver!' after i load it06:20
pecklimer is your friend green, yellow, red...06:20
Razor-Xand, she wants a music box look06:20
weswRazor-X, you mean YET!06:20
dabaSlonany errors?06:20
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 or should i use apt-get source in some way..06:20
Razor-Xwesw: ;)06:20
dabaSlonha06:20
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bob2BROKEN_LADDER: the "proper" way would be to package it so everyone can make use of it...if you don't want to do that, checkinstall is ok, as is just installing it to /usr/local/06:20
Razor-XI'm a gonna need the help of an artist (since I can't do anything aesthetic, at all) and someone with MIDI skill, who can make the MIDI sound like a music box playing thing06:20
weswgood night all06:20
Razor-Xand then, i'm a gonna need the time to build the whole damn thing without my parents finding otu06:21
Razor-X*out06:21
Razor-Xbut, I can at least, build up the schematics for someone else06:21
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estebandidobob2, wanna hear a funny story? my friend gave a blank friggin' cd06:21
peckRazor-X: I see you'll end up buying your friend a picture of a music box and a 2nd hand ipod shuffle connected to a lousy mono speaker for less than projected budget06:21
bob2haha06:21
dabaSlonfyi, razor is a kid in the baltics, is that right? like 16?06:21
peckRazor-X: and that's how michael dell began :p06:21
carmiendodabaSlon: so now i'm lost again. i'm confused also by the fact that this walkthrough had me reinstall ndiswrapper 1.1 while the other was implying that i might want to install a later version...?06:22
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Razor-Xpeck: ;)06:22
Razor-Xyeah, i'm 1506:22
estebandidoand i can't burn that shit myself, because ubuntu consistently crashes disk utility06:22
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Razor-Xbut, while I have talent with computers, my true strength lies in math06:22
Razor-Xand I know that06:22
dabaSlonhttp://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/List?PHPSESSID=945bcecf080b67c5c1c9bd4d1fbf37cd did you try getting the driver off that list?06:22
bob2estebandido: use that free mac cd burning thing I can't remember the name of06:22
bob2surely it's on versiontracker or something06:22
peckman it startles me06:22
Razor-Xplus, I get much more fun manipulating sets than I do dreaming up a linux music box (believe it or not)06:23
estebandidoi've tried several, and i can't make any of them work06:23
dabaSlonestebandido: that is truly a funny story...06:23
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carmiendo(brb)06:23
peckRazor-X: and can you tell me about manipulating sets like you told me about he music box? :P06:24
Razor-Xpeck: yes, yes I can06:24
Xirahow would I use the find command to find any file with the term 'unsanity' in the file name?06:24
Xira i'm man stupid06:24
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Razor-Xbut, if you aren't interested, get ready for a long, droning lecture ;)06:24
estebandidook, i'm out of here... i'll try again another day06:24
Razor-XI can explain the theory i'm going to submit on Usenet, and it's current problems06:24
dabaSloncarmiendo: then, after you are done that one wiki...then you need to go through this one: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto .06:24
limerwoot06:24
limerI feel good06:25
Xira-how would I use the find command to find any file with the term 'unsanity' in the file name? i'm man stupid06:25
peckRazor-X: a theory?06:25
pablo928i could use some help with dma settings for xine, please06:25
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Razor-Xpeck: yeahp06:25
dabaSlonyes, Razor-X is gonna tell us the theory!06:25
Razor-Xon the nature of infinite sets06:25
limerburg and I are buddies06:25
peckRazor-X: what's the problem u trying to solve, for starters?06:25
tritiumRazor-X, countable or uncountable?06:25
limerwoohoo!  he should come by for beer06:25
Razor-Xtritium: both06:25
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tritiumokay, let's hear it06:25
Razor-Xlet's go! heh06:26
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limereveryone here should drink beer . . .06:26
dabaSlonwhats the ignore command, pls? just quick..b4 he starts06:26
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limerand talk about ubuntu while drunk06:26
benplautuh oh06:26
limer . . . if you can anyway06:26
Razor-X1. Every element of an infinite set cannot be determined, but an infinite set can be apporximated to practical purposes06:26
hybrid_gothdabaSlon: /ignore nicl06:26
hybrid_goth**nick06:26
peckRazor-X: that a hypothesis?06:27
dabaSlonnot working:(06:27
carmiendoi would like everyone to know that this pie i just made is brilliant. and i want to give dabaSlon lots of it for helping out ^_^06:27
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Razor-X2. For every set U there exists a set V whose relationship is unknown06:27
dabaSlonhaha, carmiendo:)06:27
Razor-Xunless specifically defined06:27
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tritiumRazor-X, that's standard measure theory06:27
carmiendodabaSlon: so what's the deal with the invalid driver business?06:27
dabaSlondid you tery getting it off that site?06:27
dabaSlonthe list I gave you above^?06:27
Razor-X3. If a portion of a set is approximated continuously, then resulting segments around it contain small portions of varying apporximation06:28
Razor-Xtritium: yeah, the meat is in the 3rd poin06:28
Razor-X*point06:28
IIIEars_awayan  ipod might be a better music box with a 300 gig drive. http://www.command-tab.com/index.php/ipod-super06:28
pablo928why does the dma turn off by itself for hdc?06:28
peckRazor-X: that seems ok. but how can you MEASURE?06:28
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Razor-Xbut, what I was thinking about is that, because a set can be approximated in different ways, certain portions of sets approximated in one way are known, and approximated in the other way are unknown06:29
elkidnickrud, :)06:29
ReleaseXwhat's a good p2p program06:29
elkidnickrud,  u there?06:29
Razor-Xwhich brings up a dilemna06:29
dabaSlonif anyone understands that, he is nuts, thats all I can say:06:29
dabaSlon:)06:29
Razor-Xare the resulting sets different?06:29
Razor-XdabaSlon: hah06:29
nickrudelkid, why is it that when I sit down here, you pop up ;P06:29
benplautReleaseX: limewire is awesome06:29
dabaSlonserious, I can not even begin to grasp that...06:29
nickrudelkid, what's up?06:29
elkidnickrud, lol06:29
hybrid_gothwhat doea /beep do?06:30
dabaSlonReleaseX: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella06:30
peckRazor-X: I know nothing about math but that's the value chain (M. Porter) you're talking about06:30
Razor-XdabaSlon: that comes after abotu a half a year of spare thinking after seeing one paper on Continuum Hypothesis06:30
elkidnickrud, yo! i made it work! , was something on my kernel the "dnotify and inotifi werent enable at it :)06:30
Razor-Xpeck: eh? value chain?06:30
hybrid_goth**does06:30
benplauthybrid_goth: is does nothing06:30
Razor-X*about06:30
carmiendoRazor-X: dude, occam's razor. pick the approximation that works ^_^06:30
peckRazor-X: google for it. Porter's theory about representing value creation in business06:30
nickrudelkid, good06:30
elkidnickrud, hehe cool man :)06:30
Razor-Xpeck: but, what does that have to do with sets approximated different ways?06:31
hybrid_gothbenplaut: ok ty06:31
Razor-Xcarmiendo: that's the thing, these approximations generally differ at minute portions06:31
Razor-Xbut, nonetheless, the sets are different06:31
peckRazor-X: u're the genius, u tell me :)) really google it!06:31
Razor-Xat least, hypothetically06:31
carmiendowhy would you not say that therefore approximating the set is invalid?06:31
limerI think we had better talk about ubuntu06:32
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tritiumRazor-X, take any set dense in the original set, and you can approximate arbitrarily closely.06:32
Razor-Xcarmiendo: I could, but I don't want to06:32
dabaSlonlimer, I think someone should better tell me the ignore command.06:32
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Razor-Xtritium: but, i'm talking about minute differences06:32
limerdabaSlon: ignore06:32
tritiumRazor-X, they can be as minute as you choose06:32
limerthere you go06:32
Razor-XI have a little text file that outlines exactly what I mean06:32
dabaSlonignore06:32
nickrudlol06:33
limerin xchat, try right-clicking06:33
dabaSlonthere is a context menu ignore:)06:33
Razor-Xtritium: but, I don't understand?06:33
tritiumRazor-X, offtopic06:33
limerdabaSlon: if you've been here a while, scroll up06:33
limerI'm mocking others06:34
limerand if you don't like, you can use that newfound command :P06:34
Razor-Xtritium: ok, I was just taking the cue from the sex chat up there ;)06:34
Razor-Xback to topic..........06:34
dabaSlontritium: you asked him to hear it:)06:34
Razor-Xwhat architecture would an EBGA be classified as?06:34
tritiumdabaSlon, yep06:34
dabaSlontritium: umhm06:35
tritiumdabaSlon, I was hoping for a new result ;)06:35
pablo928how do i add scrip to enable dma to /dev/hdc at boot?06:35
dabaSlon:)06:35
Burgundaviapablo928, edit hdparm.conf06:36
pablo928tBurgundavia, ok , thanks06:36
dabaSlonha, he had to type it out:)06:37
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root__woot06:38
carmiendodabaSlon: i'm looking at that page with the drivers.. but my specific laptop isn't on it. should i just like, try shit? it seems weird..06:38
pecklimer are your geyes drunk yet?06:38
limerdude, gettin there06:38
limerI ignored our bro06:38
pablo928Burgundavia, i oped hdparm.conf with gedit and there's nothing there. Do i just add  hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc?06:38
limerbetter for both of us that way06:38
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limerpeck: what about you man?06:39
foxinesshi06:39
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limerhi foxi06:39
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 checkinstall _does_ make a package i thought.06:39
pecklimer, i'm afraid my need to sleep just vanished with this piece of Salsichon Iberico Extra06:39
pecklimer, just opened a beer06:40
limerpeck: very good sir06:40
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: not one you can usefully give to other people06:40
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limer:P06:40
dabaSlonha, bubblegum, I wanted to see something...06:40
limerfond "beer" memories06:40
limersheesh!06:40
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pablo928peck in spanish Salsichon Iberico Extraes more or less extra iberian hotdog06:41
peckand this is salchichon, not salsichon. really good, but they say i should wait 1 full hour before eating, after opening the thing... isn't that a sin?06:41
limerlol06:41
limerhahaha06:41
peckpablo928: que dices?06:42
pablo928yep salchichon but i copoied and pasted from you06:42
pecklol yeah06:42
limerit's all good.  just feel good guys06:42
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limerwe wouldn't want to police anyone here06:43
peckbut didn't get the hotdog06:43
dabaSloncarmiendo: what is the make and model, though, that was just the chipset...I guess.06:43
limerhmmm, how can we integrate this.  hotdogs are unified . . . much like ubuntu06:43
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 so how could i make a package?06:43
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: www.debian.org/devel/, new maintainer's guide06:44
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pecklimer, recipes aren't always open source06:44
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limerpeck: but they should be06:44
carmiendodabaSlon: you mean, of my laptop? or of the card? my laptop's a dell inspiron 600m. the card, i'm not sure (how do i tell?)06:44
pecklimer, good point. To what extent should sources be open?06:44
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dabaSlondunno, look up the model on the net...06:45
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dabaSlonor your manual:)06:45
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limerI think recipes should probably be open source06:45
limeropen license, whatever06:45
carmiendofrom the dell site for my laptop i have "Dell 1350 internal wireless solution (802.11b/g)"06:45
peckcarmiendo, if it's a dell it should all be available in the support site06:45
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 great.06:45
carmiendobut i am like "internal wireless solution wtf"06:45
limerbut we all know we should pay future royalties to Smuckers if we have a PB&J with the crusts cut off06:45
pecklimer, what if you do the best pizza in town?06:46
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peckrestaurants aren't about world domination06:46
peckto what extent is open source good?06:46
dabaSlonCard: Dell Truemobile 1300 minipci 54mbps    ...       Chipset: Broadcom BCM430606:46
limerpeck: you avoid giving the recipe away, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't have the ability to think of the same great pizza06:46
dabaSlonhttp://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R90501.EXE06:46
dabaSlonman...06:47
jsw1open source is good (mostly) .. but free licencing w/ open source is better. :)06:47
dabaSlon:(06:47
IIIEars_awaylimer - hire "consultants" to reverse engineer your pizza.06:47
limerbusiness is business.  that doesn't mean we all have to be assholes about it06:47
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dabaSlonard: Dell Truemobile 1350 minipci 54mbps       ......     Chipset: Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g (rev 03)06:47
jsw1na. hire consultants to make a feasablity study about reverse enginnering the pizza.06:47
dabaSlonhttp://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R81433.EXE06:47
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pecklimer, of course not. you're just making sure that your "Best pizza in town" isn't copied by the restaurant who *also* has hot ladies that deliver them to your home....06:47
limerBen Franklin wrote many a journal on "overcharging" of all things06:47
IIIEars_awayYou are right. I stand corrected06:47
limerhe was truly concerned06:47
peckjsw1: ask accenture if that's a good idea before even thinking it06:48
limerpeck: I have to admit I take shitty pizza with hot girls over good pizza and zero girls06:48
jsw1haha06:48
limerbut that's just me06:48
IIIEars_awaylol06:48
pecklimer, constitutional right of yours, won't blame you. but if you can have both because of open source06:49
jsw1I guess I am getting old .. I like good pizza.  :)06:49
limerpeck: if YOU had a choice of hot girls and bad pizza vs. good pizza and zero girls06:49
pecklimer : i'm good lookin' but make lousy pizza. so the babes work with me. you have no babes but best pizza. your recipe is open source. what do you get when i copy?06:49
limerI doubt you pick good pizza06:49
limer:P06:49
nickrudjsw1, I was beginning to doubt myself ...06:50
limerhow bout we just cut the philosophical bs and get good looking girls who happen to KNOW where good pizza is made06:50
limer:P06:50
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limerI would be happy with that06:51
carmiendowhy did my entire box just lock up? that was tragic06:51
pecklimer, i'll have to ask the consultants that consult to my humble person about that *simple* solution...06:51
[g2] Does Breezy Badger AMD64 suppor the NX bit ?06:51
limerand whoever wants the brunettes (from earlier) can have em.  I'll take the dumb blonde ;)06:51
dabaSlonCard: Dell Truemobile 1350 minipci 54mbps       ......     Chipset: Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g (rev 03) download driver:  http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R81433.EXE (however that http ftp combination works...) follow the wiki here, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto , and then this one: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto06:51
limerha06:51
pecklol06:51
foxinesspeck, did try to change your mind or other , after all we not the same thing not the same on look to things on this life donot wast your time06:51
carmiendodabaSlon, you might be my hero.06:51
dabaSlonhaha06:51
HrdwrBoBI'm married, and I like.. good pizza and so does my wife06:51
dabaSlonAny Comcast customer is my friend:)06:51
peckfoxiness: what?06:51
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carmiendo(i must totally suck at life here)06:51
limerwoot for HrdwrBoB :D06:52
limerhe has best of both worlds06:52
dabaSlonI work tech support chat with Comcast:) you know the live chat thing?06:52
limerpeck will have to see if consultants agree06:52
carmiendoahh. yeah, i've heard of it. but never used it.06:52
dabaSlonhaha:)06:52
pecklimer, if it's marriage it's fusion, consultants say yes. it's always expensive, either it works or not, so they love it06:52
dabaSlonsweet, less work 4 me...:)06:52
limer:P06:52
carmiendois that a fun job?06:53
dabaSlonand hten I get home, and come to #ubuntu:)06:53
dabaSloncarmiendo: oh, yeah, fun...:)06:53
peckit's the pizza regime i'm waiting to approve... they're making calories and risk calculations06:53
limeryou know even though Burg is ignored, I still feel dirty06:53
limerlike he's "watching"06:53
dabaSlonlike their pizza story.06:53
IIIEars_awaydabaSlon - Where is the "Any" key on my keyboard?06:53
dabaSlonIIIEars_away: $any.06:53
dabaSlondont be away at least:-p06:53
foxinesspeck, who the first one exist with out the basic knowloge ?06:53
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prediusv2dabaSlon, does Windows98 support Windows?06:54
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prediusv2*Linux06:54
dabaSlonhaha:)06:54
prediusv2;)06:54
dabaSlonawesome, nice...06:54
foxinesspeck, dont try to close ur book06:54
dabaSlongot it.06:54
foxinessur - your06:54
peckfoxiness ?06:54
carmiendothat driver's invalid too! i'm gonna strangle some puppies or something soon.06:54
peckBurg, you ok?06:54
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dabaSlonpuppies:(06:54
dabaSlonaww???06:55
limerlet me know if he's gone nuts peck06:55
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dabaSlonburg, yeah, you ok??06:55
dabaSlon:)06:55
dabaSlonlmao06:55
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pecklimer, he still won't talk to me06:55
IIIEarscarmiendo - i'll loan you a pair of inconainent cats...06:55
limerhe linked me to some ubuntu anti-bs in #ubuntu channel bs06:55
limerhahaha06:55
limerwhatever.06:55
carmiendoIIIEars: perfect! apparently i need a living sacrifice to make this work.06:56
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dabaSlonpuppies;) strangle...=-O06:56
limerhe told me that ppl were too afraid to speak up06:56
limeranyone here who thinks I am way too offtopic come get a beer and I'll ask again in twenty minutes06:56
dabaSlonaww..dont cry...at least you may be the new metalsand...06:56
peckhe'll always say cool things to you. but keeps ignoring me06:56
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carmiendometalsand?06:56
dabaSlonjj, he had a hard time installing wireless.06:57
carmiendoLIKE ME06:57
haydenhow can i tell who owns a folder using a terminal06:57
carmiendosigh.06:57
dabaSlonsomewhat, I guess. But much longer, and it worked out to be a hardware thing.06:57
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dabaSlonhayden: you could be in the folder, and do a ls -la06:57
limerpeck: you know, the last time it was some other guy that brought something about OT up.  I bitched once and he shut the fuck up06:57
dabaSlonand then see who owns the . entry.06:57
haydenthanks dabaSlon06:57
limermore of a challenge this time06:57
dabaSlonI think, let me see.06:58
dabaSlonwelcome, yeah.06:58
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dabaSlonthere is prob a better way, but I know some weird ways of getting stuff done.06:58
pecklimer, every day we live to higher challenges (the one cool think burg taught me!!)06:58
dabaSlonhaha, peck, you are awesome.06:59
limerpeck: I even told him he was a cool dude somewhere deep inside.  I don't know who did what to him06:59
peckdabaSlon: i do love you too06:59
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carmiendoawwwww.06:59
dabaSlonYay.06:59
sethHello everyone.06:59
eater773dabaSlon -->  so what my next move.. how can i mount d drive ??06:59
dabaSlonhey, seth.06:59
sethHow are you tonight dabaSlon?06:59
dabaSloneater, did you try that stuff? Ihave another way, Places>Computer>Floppy 1, double click Floppy 1.07:00
pecklimer, why do they say tonight? it's 7 am am I'm still speaking nonsense on #ubuntu!07:00
dabaSlonseth, not bad, thanks.07:00
dabaSlonyou?07:00
limerI don't know bro, I'm drunk at 1 am here07:00
limerI think daba is a cool guy too07:00
pecklimer globalization woes07:00
sethI'm great.07:00
foxinessxchat without sound-events ?07:00
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eater773yes... with floppy inside.... can't know what filesystem type ...07:00
nektondabaSlon, i got that touchpad working. thanks for your help the other night.07:00
carmiendolimer, whereis?07:00
limerva07:01
limerus07:01
BROKEN_LADDERhelp07:01
carmiendo<- md07:01
dabaSlonnekton: when, just upgrade?07:01
limercool cool07:01
peckmadrid, spain, eu07:01
BROKEN_LADDERchecking for gtk-config... no / checking for GTK - version >= 1.0.1... no07:01
BROKEN_LADDERanyone?07:01
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dabaSlonBROKEN_LADDER: what is that? you installing that?07:01
limerwtf, burg tells me about how involved he is but notice never a fuggin word in ubunu except to police07:01
nektonno, had to follow a couple of other things after the upgrade that i found on the wiki dabaSlon07:01
BROKEN_LADDERdabaSlon i'm running checkinstall07:02
dabaSlonexcellent:)07:02
limerpeck: I had an ex that loved spain07:02
carmiendodabaSlon... what do you recommend i try next? am i just having a stupid hard time finding the right driver? or is it a problem with ndiswrapper?07:02
limerI would like to see one day07:02
nektonit works sweet07:02
pecklimer, it's bluff. burg's a lame liar07:02
dabaSlondid you install it as that thing says from that source?07:02
limerno shit, I've been bsing here for how long?07:02
foxinessis there away to get sound work on xchat ?07:02
sub_pop_has ubuntu stopped doing the monthly calendars?07:02
pecklimer, worth the trip. i'm not spanish myself, and I fell in love with Madrid07:02
carmiendoyeah. i installed v1.1 exactly as it said to here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto07:03
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pecklimer, still in love though, we're not exes yet07:03
peck:p07:03
limerhow much DC to Madrid via plane?  any idea?07:03
limerpeck: that's cool man07:03
dabaSloncarmiendo: um, and both the driver from that link, and the driver from the cd give you the same error?07:03
pecklimer about 6-8 hours i'd say07:03
limerprice07:04
haydenhow do i remove a dir and all files in it?07:04
_sethWhat is a good source editor with syntex highlighting that runs in X? Not vi or emacs.07:04
limerdid I ask time?07:04
limersry bout that07:04
dabaSlonhayden, b careful...rm -r folder07:04
haydenthanks again07:04
foxinesswhy the sound on xchat not working on ubuntu ?07:04
dabaSlongedit highlights, seth.07:04
pecklimer, lol you said how much... my bad. i have NO idea :)07:04
carmiendodabaSlon: yeah. i'll do ndiswrapper -l and it says both are invalid drivers. the other driver i was using came off the dell website. i was pretty certain that was the right one.07:04
dabaSlonwelcome.07:04
_sethdabaSlon, I just typed in some HTML and C++ code, and neither was highlighted/.07:04
limerI'm afraid if I go to EU I won't come back :P07:05
dabaSlonsave as .html07:05
dabaSlonand maybe .cpp for c++ highlighting07:05
carmiendodabaSlon: on this walkthrough, he upgraded ndiswrapper...: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3192607:05
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pecklimer, yeah we won't kick you out anyways :) can't say the same thing about the us07:05
peck:p07:06
carmiendomaybe i should try that? err...07:06
benplautis my internet still on?07:06
benplautOK, i guess that's a yes07:06
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haydendabaSlon:  sudo rmdir -r netcalc07:06
haydenrmdir: invalid option -- r07:06
The_Universehey, how is ubuntu compared to debian?07:06
dabaSlonrm, not rmdir07:06
The_Universei keep hearing good things about ubuntu07:06
_sethhayden, rm -rf foo.07:06
The_Universehows it differ from deb07:06
haydenah ok07:06
dabaSloncarmiendo: did you follow step one, for Installing the Windows Drivers?07:06
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hayden<- noob07:06
limer?  you are welcome in my house peck07:06
dabaSlonrm -r should be fine, whats the f?07:06
_sethhayden, we all start somewhere.07:06
_sethdabaSlon, force.07:06
dabaSlonah07:07
_sethrm -r = bad. rm -rf = worse.07:07
haydenanother question: what does chmod 777 do?07:07
pecklimer, lol I meant the governments kicking ppl out. Thx :) Same here btw, mi casa es su casa :)07:07
herpes_seth, its not bad07:07
haydeni know it has something to do about permissions07:07
foxinessThe_Universe, 6 month not 2.6 years07:07
limer_seth: nah, just be v. careful07:07
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dabaSlonmodifies permission to allow read, write, and execute permission to you, group, and everyone07:07
The_Universefoxiness, well i run testing07:07
limerpeck: ty07:08
carmiendodabaSlon: yep. er, they are .exe files. should the be .inf?07:08
_sethhayden, 777 give everyone read wite and execute permissions.07:08
hayden_seth: ok thanks, that what i thought it was07:08
pecklimer, burg can come too07:08
dabaSlonyou need the .inf from the cd07:08
limerpeck: I decided to unignore burg07:08
limerhe just needs a drink or two07:08
carmiendo>< from the cd?07:08
limerhe would be cool ;)07:08
foxinessThe_Universe, + more work from ubuntu team07:08
peck:))07:08
dabaSlonyeah, the one for the card07:08
peckmaybe dabaSlon is the one needing more beer07:08
limerso it's set.  you, me, burg and calc all gettin together in Spain07:09
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foxinessThe_Universe, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals07:09
carmiendoso the .exes are downloadable. can i get the .inf files from them?07:09
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peckcalc, you inviting calc? he's a geek, come on!07:09
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limerlol07:09
dabaSlonnot sure, do you have the cd?07:09
limerwe can get him laid07:09
The_Universebut im used to debian now and its little quirks and stuff, i really dont want to learn and go through that all again with a new distro07:09
pecklol07:09
carmiendothe windows cd? no.07:09
pppoe__dudehi... i just installed Ubuntu, and for some reason, apt-get doesn't seem to be trying to get any lists from the internet...07:09
peckcalc: u ok with this?07:09
pppoe__dudewhat can i do?07:09
dabaSloncarmiendo: do you have the wireless card cd...07:10
nickrudThe_Universe, all your debian skills transfer nicely to ubuntuy07:10
foxinessThe_Universe, what is the new to learn ?07:10
tritiumThe_Universe, you'll put them to good use in ubuntu07:10
carmiendodabaSlon: i have zero cds07:10
limerhe's fine, just too drunk from my shots of tequila earlier07:10
limerI speak on calc's behalf07:10
dabaSlonpppoe__dude: um, did you apt-get update?07:10
pppoe__dudejust gives me "package not available" right away07:10
carmiendodabaSlon: this is because i suck ><07:10
pppoe__dudeapt-get update gives me this:07:10
foxinessThe_Universe, its basd debian im from fc not debian and i can not see diff things to learn07:10
dabaSloncarmiendo: go i nto windows, try executing the exe07:10
dabaSlonI guess...07:10
_sethWhat IS breezy?07:10
pppoe__dudeReading package lists... Done07:11
pecklimer, perfect then07:11
pppoe__dudein less than a second07:11
carmiendodabaSlon,07:11
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foxinessThe_Universe, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/504Released07:11
peck_seth: new ubuntu release07:11
_elliotwhy are there no choices for keyboard layout in ubuntu, in both selection places (kde and gnome) there are no choices?07:11
pppoe__dudedoesnt seem to be contacting any servers or anything07:11
tritium_elliot, there are07:11
carmiendodabaSlon: er. okay! brb.07:11
dabaSlonpppoe__dude: do a cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste that into http://pastebin.com , please.07:11
_elliottritium: any idea why I cannot see them?07:11
nektondabaSlon, first i did the first entry in this post ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399307:11
pppoe__dudelol07:12
pppoe__dudeeverything seems to be commented out07:12
tronddGood morning! Got a question about gstreamer: Compared to mplayer compiled with mmx1, mmx2 and sse, totem-gstreamer is *very* slow, so I wonder if gstreamer is comiled for i386?07:12
dabaSlonok, well, remove comments:)07:12
foxinessThe_Universe, how mutch take debian to be ready :from boot to desktop :?07:12
tritium_elliot, no, you're looking in System->Preferences->Keyboard->Layouts?07:12
pppoe__dudeshould i uncomment the servers? e.g. # deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe07:12
nickrud_elliot, system->preferences->keyboard07:12
peckAh, limer, we got a "good morning" guy07:12
dabaSlonca!07:12
dabaSlon:)07:12
pppoe__dudeTHANKS!! :) i have more problems, will come back to them later tho07:12
peckargh, bet he's @ work07:13
dabaSlonk...07:13
limerpeck: what was that?  I was pissin07:13
nektondabaSlon, and then *key* was to add the i8042.nomux to the menu.lst noted 3/4's down the page ---> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticsTouchpadHowto07:13
_sethSo, the misses got a cat today. Guess what I found out today. I'm allergic to cats.07:13
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peckit's trondd, limer. bet he just got to work. and i'm still awoke07:13
limer_seth: that's too bad man, cats r0x07:13
_elliotyes, the place where you should be able to see keyboard choices, it says keyboard choices but there are none to choose from07:13
limerwow07:14
Xira-http://synchronizedesigns.us/ubuntu/IMG_1573.JPG <-- Now that part of my desk is clean07:14
Xira-:D07:14
_sethliable, it is bad, because this cat is so cool. He is like a stoner cat. Wants to do nothing more then sleep all day and be pet. I love him. He is just like me.07:14
limercats and computers are mortal enemies though07:14
limermaybe for the best07:14
_sethXira-, DIE!07:14
dabaSlonnekton: yeah, wikis are goof.07:14
limerever notice how the cat jumps on the keyboard during BIOS flash?07:14
dabaSlond07:14
Xira-Why?07:14
Xira-o.O07:14
tronddpeck: not even there yet... (Breakfast)07:14
_sethYou have a mac mini.07:14
Xira-So? :o07:14
_sethI don't.07:15
nektonbits and pieces but you got me on the track dabaSlon , preciate it.07:15
pecktrondd: Want some Salchichon Iberico Extra?07:15
nektonworks sweet now.07:15
Xira-they're fun07:15
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pppoe__dudeOk,07:15
dabaSlonk, good.07:15
_sethWant to get me one?07:15
Xira-lol07:15
Xira-took me awhile to save up07:15
Xira-im a jobless 16 year old07:15
limerthat was weird, I just felt like eating play-doh07:15
limer:-&07:15
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BROKEN_LADDERhow can i install gtk-config?07:15
_sethWell, you better start saving up again, huh?07:15
Xira-lots of debunkering virus/spyware infected machines07:15
Xira-:D07:15
_sethMy birthday is in July...07:16
pecklimer, we can get a mcmorning at mcdonald's if you prefer07:16
_sethBROKEN_LADDER, did you get apt-get install gtk-config?07:16
limeromg, I'm so hungry07:16
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pppoe__dudewhy can;t I run any 'administrative' utilities from within gnome? When i click on, for example, networking, it asks for my password... I put the password and it gives me an error... and thats with everything07:16
limerI skipped a sub at wawa's earlier07:16
pecklimer, order pizzas to the brunettes07:16
limer:P07:16
limerno doubt07:16
limerI happen to be partial to redheads honestly07:17
klaus^^^man07:17
klaus^^^debian acts like ubuntu07:17
pecklimer, genetic u think?07:17
klaus^^^?07:17
pppoe__dudei have a root account, and not using sudo07:17
_sethThe misses is Asian.07:17
dabaSlonpppoe__dude: full disk is all that comes to my mind.07:17
dabaSlondf -l07:17
pppoe__dudedabaSlon got about 5 gb's07:17
_sethChinese to be more specific.07:17
limerI think good looking redheads make for great Irish boxing later ;)07:17
pecklimer, investing then. my consultants are happy to hear that07:18
pppoe__dudedabaSlon, however, when it asks for my password, apparently it checks for the user password, not the root one...07:18
pppoe__dudeand then gives me an error code 1.07:18
BROKEN_LADDER_seth that doesn't bring any package up07:18
limerI don't know a lot about my family tree but I KNOW I'm Irish b/c I like Guinness, redheads and boxing07:18
herpeslimer, irish boxing?07:18
pppoe__dudei'm gonna try kubuntu and see what happens07:18
dabaSlonBROKEN_LADDER: it is not there,07:18
limerI'm also an asshole so I MUST be French too07:18
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dabaSlonyeah, you need to tell it your password.07:19
ZotnixHey... erm. Upgraded tonight on Breezy and X went wrong. Thinking I should go back down a notch.07:19
pecklimer, drink another beer07:19
ZotnixAnyway to do that?07:19
limerherpes: I don't know if I should respond or be scared of your name07:19
BROKEN_LADDERno kidding07:19
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BROKEN_LADDERdabaSlon where is it then?07:19
Zotnix(I know... :p Breezy is unstable. I expected something to go wrong)07:19
pecklol07:19
herpeslimer, be afraid07:20
Zotnixoh07:20
limergot' damn it.  now I'm hungry07:20
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dabaSlonBROKEN_LADDER: wild guess: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&forumid=2&threadid=323608 .07:20
limerbe afwaid . . . be VERY afwaid07:20
ZotnixOkay...thinking I should downgrade to hoary07:20
pppoe__dudewhat's the name of the 'kubuntu' package? isn;t it kubuntu-desktop?07:20
haydenanyone know of an easy to configure ftp server?07:20
tritiumGood night, all07:20
limernite07:20
pecknite nite07:21
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ZotnixTo downgrade I switch over my sources.list to hoary and then apt-get dist-upgrade right?07:21
limerI like boxing that involves the Irish kicking the shit out of others, yes.  herpes07:21
dabaSlonmaybe...07:21
prediusv2No, Zotnix.07:21
ZotnixHeh, uh oh.07:21
prediusv2There should be a guide somwhere.07:21
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ZotnixKind of in recovery mode :/07:21
prediusv2Google ubuntu downgrade packages.07:21
dabaSlonhayden: configure like what? startup?07:21
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ZotnixSo I can't switch to another terminal.07:21
ZotnixOkay07:22
limerpeck: where you at bro?07:22
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pecklimer, tryin' to go offline but i can't seem to be able to. wonder if i'll ever sleep again of if i'll wake up in a fight club being beaten up by an irish friend of yours07:23
foxinesstime to go07:23
limerI just put on the Doors for ya07:23
foxinessc y l8r07:23
limer;)07:23
limernite foxi07:23
peckOH, you got the touch for the music selection07:23
dabaSlonbye07:23
pecknite foxiness, next time you'll tell me about my book07:24
limerI know great music bro07:24
pecklimer, mplayer is playing the end here :)07:24
limerthis is the end . . . my only friend, the end07:24
pecklimer, that's why i'm particulary frustrated about being awake still07:24
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limerI know it's early there, make good use of the time07:25
limerhave a more southern dish07:25
limerask for biscuits and gravy07:25
limersee what they say over in there ;)07:25
dr_willisHmm.. Diddly dang it - where did i see the gnome icon configuration tool at..07:26
pecklol if i have to wait another minute before eating I might eat my keyboard. ctrl+alt+del combo is particulary good they say07:26
dr_willistestinmg out some new themes/icons i downloaded.07:26
limerwhatchu talkin' bout Willis!?07:26
pecklol07:26
limerhaha07:27
dr_willisYou just showed your age at about... 37 or so :P07:27
limerand to think burg was complaining not long ago07:27
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dr_willisor you watch way too much late night tv. :P07:27
limerwe are the life of the party peck :P07:27
peckstartling07:27
dabaSlon_outsideor half the channel has him on ignore:)07:27
dabaSlon_outsideI dont even see anything:)07:27
limer;)07:27
peckthe flame of it's existence I'd dare say07:28
limerdon't see what dabaSlon_outside ?07:28
dr_willisHmm.. Ok. where the heck is the "change icon theme" tool hidden at. :P07:28
peckI think he's still looking for Burg07:28
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limercan't you right-click that willis?07:28
peckhe's not outside dabaSlon07:28
_sethdr_willis, system -> preferences - > theme07:28
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_sethGo to theme details, and on the top tabs, click icons.07:28
ZotnixOkay. Time to downgrade07:28
limerpeck: what is daba talkin bout?07:29
limerI'm too drunk to understand07:30
pecklimer, I think he doubts the existence of Burg...07:30
limerI see07:30
limerburg is a very real boogeyman daba07:30
limerhe wants you to salute when you talk about ubuntu07:30
dr_willis_seth,  yea thats for the window decor theme isent it.. im looking for the 'icon' themes. :P07:30
dr_willis_seth,  or am i missing somthing here. lol07:30
peckI miss the Inquisition times... daba'd probably be beheaded as he deserves. Non-believers freak me out07:30
_sethI said go into the Icons tab under the Theme Details.07:31
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limerwoot!  break on through!07:31
dr_willisAHA -  there they are. :P07:31
dr_willisdetaills was ghosted for some reason.. selected a different theme. :P07:31
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limerswallowed wrong tube07:32
pecklimer try some jimi hendrix07:32
limerburg must be usin voodoo07:32
limerI don't have any jimi on this box bro.  only zeppelin, doors, jethro tull07:33
limermaybe some odds and ends07:33
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peckask burg to sing hey joe for you07:33
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limerwoohoohoo!07:34
nate_______anyone know how to run prima visual builder?07:34
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limerwhere you at Burgundavia07:34
limerthose underscores scare me07:34
limernate_______: no07:34
nate_______lol07:34
limernate wants to distance himself from us07:34
peckno, only from his text07:34
peckhe's known to avoid responsibility07:35
limerI see I see07:35
limerhe wrecked Dad's car again huh?07:35
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peckonly Mom's aware07:35
limerahh07:35
peckpretty nice mess he created there07:35
limerno doubt07:35
limerI'm still waitin on burg's posse07:36
limerguess that won't show07:36
pecklimer, did you hear about that guy they found on an english beach? won't say a word, only play the piano? I hear he's from the same planet as Burg. Hoax?07:37
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limerwow, heard about him07:37
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limerlots o ppl leaving07:37
CrankyBenHi all... getting very frustrated with a problem I am having and was hoping to get some help07:37
herpesyou guys are so far off topic07:37
jricheI am currently using a 64 bit version of Ubuntu07:37
jricheand i was wondering how to change the settings to 32bit07:38
peckherpes why that name, why?07:38
limerherpes: he hates everyone, that's just his nature07:38
herpespeck, because im worth it07:38
peckherpes does research for l'oreal i reckon07:38
ZotnixDowngrading happening now.07:38
CrankyBenI am using 5.04... and I cannot play WMV files. I've looked at heaps of instructions on how to configure this, but the w32codec does not seem to be in any of the repositories. Yes, I've edited the sources.list and added all the multiverse/universe07:39
jricheI am currently using a 64 bit version of Ubuntu, and i was wondering how to change the settings to 32bit07:39
limerCrankyBen: I tried for the w32codecs too.  I guess they're gone07:39
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limerCrankyBen: you can get a mplayer site I thinks07:39
CrankyBenlimer, what are we supposed to do?07:39
limersee above07:39
jricheI am currently using a 64 bit version of Ubuntu, and i was wondering how to change the settings to 32bit07:40
CrankyBenlimer, yeah I downloaded mplayer via synaptic, and downloaded the codecs from their site, but now have NFI what to do next. I'm a linux newb07:40
cyphasewho here has used both Beagle and Google Desktop Search?07:40
limerherpes: how can you have that name and not feel dirty07:40
pecklimer, you went on-topic. have another beer, quickly07:40
limerseriously07:40
limer;)07:40
limerdon't let burg know plz07:40
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pecki won't tell, but you know how omnipotent he is...07:41
CrankyBenany clues?07:41
limerCrankyBen: if memory serves, you extract and link to other path07:41
herpeslimer, because i dont have any stis07:41
limerbut I forget.  I'm pretty damn drunk07:41
limerSTDs?07:41
pecklol07:41
_sethAnyone here good with activites performed on a laptop by many Linux users?07:41
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count0nzHi herpes wb07:41
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pecklol07:42
limer:P07:42
limergot' damn elitists07:42
limerglad I got tha tout of my system07:43
herpesCrankyBen, debian-marillat repo has w32codecs07:43
pecklike good is what it takes07:43
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limerwoot!  la woman07:43
CrankyBenherpes, how do i add that repository?07:43
Amaranthyeah, strangle those kittens07:43
herpesCrankyBen, its on ubuntuguide.org07:43
limeryou know, if #ubuntu is so concerned about ontopic, where the fuck are the ops?07:43
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Amaranthhello07:43
carmiendokilling kittens doesn't even make me feel better. rrr07:43
peckthey're undercover07:44
limerhiya07:44
limerI guess so07:44
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Amaranthhehe07:44
CrankyBenherpes, thankyou07:44
limer;)07:44
_sethSo, is anyone good with that kind of stuff?07:44
peckoh, someone thanked herpes07:44
limerwhy are we killing kittens again?07:44
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peckbecause wifi still sucks07:44
carmiendobecause this ndiswrapper thing still isn't working. yep.07:44
Amaranthlimer: It's impossible to keep the channel on topic 24/7. Besides, that wouldn't be any fun.07:44
limerremember "American Psycho"?07:45
peckOh, note that one07:45
Amaranthlimer: The important thing is to not go off topic for 15 minutes and confuse any newcomers.07:45
limerAmaranth: careful, burg might hear you07:45
peckremember? you are it, tell your story07:45
AmaranthBurgundavia?07:45
limeryeah07:45
Amaranthpfft07:45
limerI respect ubuntu, I swear it07:45
limerbut he's just asking for shit07:45
limerI don't "ever" interfere with other ppl helping other ppl07:46
limerknow what I mean?07:46
peckyeah but u're drunk, you can easily trip07:46
limerif I was flooding or something, I could see it.  but really, that guy needs some pussy bro07:46
AmaranthBurgundavia is a MOTU and/or dev, I can take him. ;)07:46
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limerI like him believe it or not.  I have no doubt he's a cool guy07:47
limerhe just needs to get over himself07:47
pecki can't believe i'm reading this07:47
limerme and peck are gonna get him drunk in Spain07:47
AmaranthEasy now, CoC and all that.07:47
limeralong with calc07:47
AmaranthI have no problem with him, I'm trying to be funny.07:47
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peckAmaranth: u want to come?07:48
limerI don't either . . . other than he's an easy target for being so anal07:48
peckcalc's gonna get laid07:48
limerwoot!07:48
Amaranthpeck: Being broke and in the US makes that difficult.07:48
limerAmaranth: I'm broke too07:48
peckAmaranth: come by boat with limer07:48
kestasis calc a woman?07:48
Amaranthha07:48
peckkestas: you wish07:48
limerwe can be broke together smuggling ourselves within the turbines07:48
peckhe's a geek07:48
limer:P07:49
kestaswhat do you mean he'll get laid then?!07:49
limerhe will07:49
Zotnix.win prev07:49
Zotnix.Erm..07:49
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limertrust me, everclear works wonders07:49
peckmost certainly will07:49
kestasbut hes a guy07:49
_sethI AM SO HAPPY!07:49
Amaranthoh, and i'm not of legal age to drink07:49
limerkestas, stop being so negative and drink with us07:49
peckkestas: you wish too07:49
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_sethI just plugged in my digital camera, and GNOME asked if I want to copy the images from it!07:49
limer_seth: woot for seth!07:49
_sethWOO HOO!07:50
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AmaranthOk, this is probably a little too far off-topic guys. :)07:50
limer:-&07:50
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carmiendooh sigh. i think i'm going to quit for tonight.07:50
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limer:D07:50
limernite07:50
carmiendothis means, be prepared for more carmenfrustration tomorrow!07:50
limerwhoa!07:50
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CrankyBenherpes, thanks, I am downloading w32codec now07:50
peckcarmiendo, u could've built a loooooooooong cable since the beggining of all this07:50
carmiendowhoa!07:50
carmiendohahahaha07:50
herpescount0nz, speights?07:51
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limerI keep thinking "croutons"07:51
limerforgive me07:51
IIIEars<< Gave up Fedora Core and found no further reason to drink...07:51
carmiendoand think of all the kittens that would still be alive and meowing toady.07:51
carmiendotoday.07:51
=== count0nz waiting for breezy to break :)
jonesyis there a way to make the icons on the ubuntu desktop smaller?07:51
herpesCrankyBen, no problem just disable that repo after you get the codecs as it will probably conflict with the universe/multiverse repos07:51
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Zotnixcount0nz: Too late :p07:51
limerjonesy: I think in Prefs07:51
ZotnixBroke for me.07:51
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carmiendobut anyway. thanks for the help! goodnight!07:52
limernite07:52
peckcya07:52
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count0nzjust X broke right :)07:52
limerI think I'm seein double07:52
limeryah07:52
ZotnixYeah07:52
ZotnixFont issue07:53
pecklimer you can't be thinking by now, so it's probably right07:53
limerI think so07:53
count0nznp don't use X on that Box07:53
ZotnixEnough to make me retreat back to hoary.07:53
Zotnix:p07:53
limerall Ki Know is that I met a cool op tonight07:53
limerand burg will be fhillin withus soon07:53
ZotnixI suppose I could go without X07:53
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AmaranthWhere?07:53
limeran typing is very bad07:53
ZotnixBut then I can't use my new video card :p07:53
peckAmaranth: not you07:53
peck:p07:53
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count0nzjust runs squid and snort :)07:54
peckBurg's gonna be pissed at Amaranth07:54
peckpower was questioned07:54
limer /me asks for corner to urinate in07:54
limerwhoa.  that was weoird07:54
limerI must be drunk here07:54
ZotnixHey Amaranth.07:54
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limerguys, I have drinken like 900 virtual beers here07:54
IIIEarsFaxes limer a six pack of flat beer07:55
limerand I haveta tell ya it'sa messin me up07:55
peckA donation!!! It's your first donation!! Celebrate07:55
=== count0nz a new world record :)
limerI used to be able to type qwwery t07:55
peckyou were 11 at that time07:55
Amaranthhey Zotnix07:55
peckyou couldn't cross the street to the pub07:55
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peckbeen a long time since you've typed qwerty right07:55
limerwow.  I hvent' sbeen thi sdrink in a long tiem07:55
limeroyu nknow what I mean07:56
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limerpeck: yah07:56
peckyeah but i'm still wondering how you got to spell "wow" right07:56
AmaranthIn other channels I look over when someone gets drunk and goes on IRC they get banned...07:56
limerAmaranth: does that mean you silence me?07:56
Amaranthyeah07:56
limer:(07:56
limerok, I'll tyr to be good07:57
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peckdrunk and silenced, on irc... you could just jump out of a Windows...07:57
pecklimer you can type with your mouth zipped!07:58
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limer*mgmmmphhhf!07:58
peck:)07:58
peckgoin' to bed, at last07:58
haydenwhat do i isntall to get db_load to work07:58
limer*mmphh!07:58
pecklove u too limer07:58
pecknite nite07:58
peckbye all07:58
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IIIEarsG'nite07:59
count0nzohhh we left i was going to say nite :(07:59
count0nz /s/we/he07:59
limerok nite all.  good taling with you.  niec meattin you Amaranth07:59
count0nzTake care Limer :)08:00
tronddIs it just my old laptop, or is totem *really* slow?08:00
_sethTotem is slow on here. P3 1GHz, 512 RAm.08:00
ZotnixDowngrade... commencing!08:00
ZotnixHoary... here I come :p08:00
count0nzTotem is sweet on my Duron 1600 OC 1800 (2ghZ)08:01
trondd_seth: hehe, exactly the same specs :)08:01
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_sethtrondd, you on an Inspiron 8100?08:01
trondd_seth: yes08:01
_sethATI or nVidia?08:01
trondd_seth: nvidia08:01
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_sethHA!08:01
tronddgeforce2go08:01
_sethI got the 7500.08:01
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_sethThe 7500 Mobility is a 64MB card, where as the GeForece2Go is only a 32MB. Plus, I just love ATI.08:02
ZotnixMm.. I got an NVidia GeForce 5500FX (256MB)08:02
ZotnixIt's very nice.08:02
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_sethOh hush.08:02
ZotnixWas... 80 bucks08:02
tronddIt's got the best screen avaliable for a laptop, and it's three years old!08:02
_sethHell yeah.08:02
herpesradeon 7000 is the best08:02
_sethWhen did you get yours?08:02
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tronddthree years ago...08:03
_sethI meant did you buy it directly from Dell.08:03
IIIEarsCan you point me to info about support for ProSavageDDR Video i810 support on "Breezy Badger"? - (I can use another machine if it isn't supported yet.)08:03
DEATH-METALhi08:03
_sethIIIEars, don't use Breezy yet.08:04
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trondd_seth: yes, directly08:04
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ZotnixYeah08:04
IIIEarsOkay. - not even for masochist?08:04
ZotnixIIIEars: Yeah... it's bad.08:04
ZotnixIIIEars: I'm having to downgrade as we speak :p08:05
ivoksomg08:05
count0nz:) its fun08:05
ivoksthey didn't connect my scsi tape in dell :)08:05
count0nzbut VERY Bad08:05
IIIEarsGood tip - Thank You.08:05
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_sethYeah, I got this from a guy who had just won a new laptop. I pay $400 for it about 2 months ago.08:05
trondd_seth: I won't mention how much I paid for it when it was new...08:06
_sethAround $2100 if I remember.08:06
ZotnixI used hoary when it wasn't stable.. nothing ever broke.08:06
holycowhttp://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/free_issues/issue_03/market_force/  <-- canonical and other ubuntu related people may be interested in this article08:06
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ZotnixOn the plus side I can install skype once the downgrade is done08:07
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ZotnixWhen I'm done downgrading can I remove the /etc/apt/preferences?08:07
herpesZotnix, yes08:08
ivoksholycow: to much to read :)08:09
haydenhow can i change computer name via terminal08:11
ivokshayden: you have to change couple of things08:13
ivokshayden: first of all, /etc/hostname file08:13
ivokshayden: and then /etc/hosts file08:13
ivokshayden: and if you use MTA, then you have to reconfigure it as well08:14
shinuis there a package for mplayer binary codecs?08:14
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holycowivoks, but well worth it08:16
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ivoks:)08:18
dabaSlonshinu, is there any on the mplayer site?08:18
tronddmplayerhq.hu08:18
tronddyes there is!08:18
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dabaSlonare:)08:19
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tronddof cause! ;)08:19
LiberalTugboathey08:19
dabaSlonlol08:20
ReleaseXanyone here use wifi with a laptop?08:20
_sethhttp://walterpoorman.net/00001.jpg08:20
dabaSlonReleaseX: ivoks does:)08:20
_sethWHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH MY EYE!08:20
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dabaSlonseth, youre weird:)08:20
tronddReleaseX: I do.08:20
_sethI'm serious. What the hell is wrong with it?!08:21
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dabaSlongo ask on #doctor rather.08:21
_sethI had GOT to get rid of this cat. it's f*cking killing me.08:21
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ReleaseXtrondd: do you use any gui programs to handle your wireless roaming?08:21
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_sethKismet.08:22
shinudabaSlon: there is but if i just add the codecs i would have to recompile right?08:23
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dabaSlonyes:)08:23
shinudabaSlon: how can i overcome the recompiling bit xD08:23
dabaSlonwhy?08:23
dabaSlon:)08:23
tronddReleaseX: gtkwifi and netapplet08:23
shinuwel...08:23
shinudabaSlon: i thought doing the stuff via apt-get would be better08:23
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ReleaseXtrondd: which do you prefer08:23
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dabaSlonshinu, it may well be, I compiled it.08:24
dabaSlonand added a lot of libs...I have a howto...08:24
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bob2000installing ubuntu for the first time. I'm switching from gentoo...got tired of compiling everything. One thing I don't understand is..the ubuntu installer never asked for a root password. So is my regular user account's password the same as root's password?08:24
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LiberalTugboatno08:24
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LiberalTugboatroot account is disabled by default08:25
shinudabaSlon: so recompiling the software should be no problem if its alreeadt installed or something? :D08:25
Drako60hey does Ubuntu install a firewall?08:25
herpesDrako60, no08:25
LiberalTugboatDrako60, not by default08:25
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LiberalTugboatbut you can apt-get firestarter08:25
Drako60hmm08:25
bob2000root account is disabled? um...ok...so what if i need to be root? say...if i need to start a service08:25
kestasiptables is a firewall08:25
LiberalTugboatits a gui frontend for IPtablea08:25
LiberalTugboattables08:25
kestasand its installed by default08:25
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tronddReleaseX: hmmm, don't know (neither of theme work on my laptop...)08:26
LiberalTugboatbob2000, you use SUDO08:26
HrdwrBoBall the cool kids use sudo08:26
Drako60kestas, where is iptables localed?08:26
HrdwrBoBdon't you want to be cool?08:26
Drako60err located08:26
dabaSlonyeah, you can recompile...want the howto? http://pastebin.com/28641008:26
haydenhow can i change computer name via terminal08:26
kestasbob2000: root account isnt disabled, it just doesnt have a password set08:26
kestasDrako60: iptables08:26
kestasDrako60: sudo iptables --help08:26
kestasman iptables etc08:26
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LiberalTugboatkestas, which means that the root acount cant be logged into08:27
LiberalTugboathence "disabled"08:27
kestasLiberalTugboat: sudo sh08:27
dabaSlonha08:27
bob2000ok...i just tried it on the machine. i tried to SU as root...typed something random..got error...so i typed my regular user's password and became root. so i guess i need to 'passwd' while being root to set root's password?08:27
shinudabaSlon: which source code should i get?08:27
kestasit just doesnt have a password set08:27
dabaSlonits a root shell.08:27
shinudabaSlon: the one i have is an ubuntu package... where should i get the sourcecode for it?08:28
dabaSlonshinu, get the newset one @ http://mplayerhq.hu as he said.08:28
LiberalTugboatbob2000, yes08:28
kestasdabaSlon: okay then sudo sh --login08:28
dabaSlonif you can login with your:-p08:28
dabaSlonbut, shinu, probably mmany would say no need to compile mplayer for ubuntu.08:28
shinudabaSlon: i was really discouraged to compile from source last time i asked in here xD08:29
shinuuh...08:29
dabaSlon:)08:29
dabaSlonIt installs some cool libs, so it is a good howto.08:29
shinuso how do they do if they want to add new codecs? xD08:29
kestasshinu: shouldnt you be developing :P08:29
LiberalTugboatmplayer in hoary works well though08:29
LiberalTugboatin warty you had no choice08:29
LiberalTugboatbecause it was borked08:30
shinukestas: me? xD08:30
dabaSlonya...XD08:30
kestasam I thinking of someone else?08:30
shinupossibly xD08:30
dabaSlonyou think of him, eh? -_-08:30
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kestasxD08:31
dabaSlon=_=08:31
engin i use the ubuntu honary amd64bit and i have some problems can u help me?08:31
dabaSlondepending on what it is...08:32
enginextarcting rars08:32
dabaSlondid you install unrar?08:32
enginyes.. sudo apt-get install unrar08:32
enginisnt it?08:32
Drako60isn't there an iptables.conf file?08:33
kestasengin: rar2 cant be decompressed08:33
dabaSlonand?08:33
enginReading package lists... Done08:33
enginBuilding dependency tree... Done08:33
enginunrar is already the newest version.08:33
engin0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.08:33
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enginhere08:33
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dabaSlonand?08:33
kestasdabaSlon: 'and?' and I predict he's trying to unrar a rar308:34
kestas*rar208:34
benplauthey- what's the path to the Grub config file (forgot the name)08:34
herpesengin, unrar e file.rar doesnt work?08:34
dabaSlondoesnt work, eh:)?08:34
kestasxD08:34
engin:)08:34
kestasxD08:34
dabaSlonisnt it rar4 already?08:34
Do-It-Nowhi all08:34
kestasand?08:34
engini dont know anything about rarx08:34
Drako60engin, try unrar-nonfree, i had problems with the free version08:34
dabaSlondo it now...08:34
eater773dabasSLon--> i give up... still can mount the floppy drive... look for some help thru website still message " filesystem type"....08:34
dabaSloneater773: you come here every few hours, and dont answer any questions08:35
enginnon-free??08:35
enginsory i didnt understand08:35
kestasengin: dont worry you dont ahve to pay for it08:35
eater773dabasSLon--> sorry coz' my boss is calling me frequently..08:35
enginhow can i try it08:35
kestasinstall it from synaptic08:36
kestasunrar-nonfree08:36
enginok wait..08:36
Drako60engin, apt-get install unrar-nonfree08:36
kestasyou know we still dont know what engin's problem is08:36
kestascould be something totally different08:36
dabaSloneater773: cool, its like 1:36 here, and I have a headache...08:37
eater773dabaSlon--> this is my first move to linux... i found it stable... but quite something to be mounted first...08:37
dabaSlonits easy, maybe,,,08:37
dabaSlonI would have to find a floppy around here...08:37
herpesengin, how are you trying to extract the rar?08:37
eater773dabaSlon--> sorry.... but thank you 4 everything...08:37
kestaseater773: mount -t fat12 /dev/fd0 /mnt/fd008:38
enginok thanks..08:38
engini did it08:38
dabaSlon(01:37:17) kestas: you know we still dont know what engin's problem is   ........... hello, Ive been saying and? all the time...08:38
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kestasdabaSlon: oh well looks like I was right that it was rar208:38
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eater773kestas --> ok...  i try again.. pls. wait 4 the feedback...08:38
dabaSlonright.08:38
kestasdabaSlon: I mean.. 'and?'08:39
kestasxD08:39
engini install non-free and extract it with unrar e tahnks again08:39
dabaSlon:)08:39
dabaSlonexcellent08:39
dabaSlonL)08:39
enginx)08:39
dabaSlonhah08:39
eater773kestas -> it say mount point not exist " /mnt/fd0"08:40
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dabaSlonsudo mkdir /mnt/fd008:40
kestasmkdir /mnt/fd008:40
kestasas root08:40
orkohow do u get warty to support 2GB ram ? (only showing 1GB) - need to rebuild kern?08:40
herpesor use /media/floppy08:40
herpeskestas, /mnt is deperciated08:41
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kestasorko: hmm that shouldnt need a kernel rebuild08:41
kestasorko: 4gb is the normal kernel limit without extra stuff08:41
eater773dabaSlon--> filesystem type " fat12" unknow .....08:41
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herpeseater773, use vfat08:41
sobersabrehi guys08:41
kestaseater773: try sudo mount /media/floppy08:41
sobersabrei have this entry in my routing table:08:41
sobersabre169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth008:41
dabaSlonkestas, that last one is fun08:41
sobersabrewhy do i need it ?08:41
orkokestas, thats what I thought, but only 1GB is showing (2.6.8.1-3-386)08:42
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freewoodyHi all08:42
herpeshe freewoody08:42
kestasorko: hmm odd, but Ive got no experience with >512mb so cant help08:42
freewoodyI can't seem to install Exim mail server08:42
eater773thanks .... dabaSlon --- Kestas ..... ur a great help.... more power to both of you..08:42
dabaSloneater773: works?08:42
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dabaSlonmore power?08:43
Drako60hmm so what is blocking port 11308:43
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herpesdabaSlon, what level are you at?08:43
dabaSlonlol08:43
dabaSlonheh08:43
benplauthow do a make grub update it's menu.lst to the edited version?08:43
dabaSloni grow in powah each dayO_O08:44
mngrifI just install ubuntu (going from gentoo) and I get a lot of messages on boot from start-stop-daemon saying that "Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.".. what gives?08:44
mngrifinstalled*08:44
engindabaslon can u say the mounting the flopy again.. i did't understand it08:44
dabaSlonorko: are you running warty?08:44
kestasbenplaut: grub-update08:44
_sethWhat file can handle 7z?08:44
benplautthanks08:44
eater773yes....08:44
_sethEr, what program can handle 7z rather.08:44
dabaSloneater773: excellent.08:44
kestas_seth: search synaptic for 7z08:44
Burgundavia_seth, file-roller can, but you have to open them by hand08:44
kestas_seth: something should turn up08:44
freewoodyDoes anyone know how to send mails using my own Exim SMTP Server08:45
orkodebaSlon: yep 4.10 dist-up'd08:45
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orkoI found the same thing with straight debian, needed CONFIG_MEM_4GB enabled.08:46
dabaSlonand its still .8 kernel?08:46
mngrifit really seems like some packages didn't get configured08:46
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dabaSlonah...08:46
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_sethBurgundavia, File Roller is telling me Archive not supported.08:46
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engin:)08:46
_sethkestas, Synaptic isn't returning anything.08:46
kestas_seth: search synaptic for 7z08:46
kestashmm08:46
Burgundavia_seth, gah, it can open them, it doesn't think it can08:47
benplautkestas: not working...08:47
engini cant mount flopy drive08:47
enginhalp??08:48
dabaSlonme neither, ask eater77308:48
enginhelp?08:48
kestasbenplaut: so you edited /boot/grub/menu.lst08:48
benplautkestas: yes08:48
_sethI have no many eBooks in 7z, this is going to suck if I can't open them.08:48
kestasbenplaut: what did you edit?08:48
dabaSlongrub-update  ... bash: grub-update: command not found08:48
dabaSlonupdate-grub?08:48
kestassudo grub-update08:48
benplautkestas: i had added suspend support, but it takes forever to save and restore an image, so i took it out08:49
freewoodyDoes somebody here uses Exim MTA ?08:49
dabaSlonsudo update-grub08:49
benplauthibernate, i mean08:49
lifelessyes08:49
enginaloo how can do it08:49
benplautdabaSlon: thanks, that worked08:49
dabaSlonsudo mkdir /mnt/fd0         ...       mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/fd008:50
dabaSlonyeah, kestas.08:50
Burgundavia_seth, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=p7zip08:50
dabaSlonexcellent08:50
Burgundavia_seth, download and install from there08:50
_sethUnstable, right?08:51
dabaSlonengin: got that?08:51
Burgundavia_seth, yes, it should install on Ubuntu08:51
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enginengin@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/fd008:51
enginmount: /dev/fd0 geerli bir blok aygt deil08:51
enginengin@ubuntu:~$08:51
enginit says in turkish.. namely it doesnt work08:51
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dabaSlonthen go see it, it is mounted maybe08:52
dabaSlonor no floppy, what does it say08:52
engini cant translate:)08:52
engin:D08:52
dabaSlonmount -t fat12 /dev/fd0 /mnt/fd0 try that08:53
dabaSlonI guess.08:53
ZotnixBah.. going to have to reinstall.08:53
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enginengin@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t fat12 /dev/fd0 /mnt/fd08:54
enginmount: balama noktas /mnt/fd yok08:54
enginengin@ubuntu:~$08:54
tgaengin: there is no /mnt/fd dir?08:54
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_sethWhen doing sudo dpkg -i p7zip_4.18-1_i386.deb, I get this.08:55
_seth p7zip depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:08:56
_seth  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.08:56
enginit says fat12 dont known.. it may be vfat08:56
_sethI tried to upgrade libc6 but it said it was up to date.08:56
enginbut i try it with vfat and it retuns the first error again08:56
tga_seth: is that a debian package?08:56
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_sethYes.08:56
tga_seth: there you have it.. ubuntu is not (quite) debian08:57
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_sethThere isn't a package for Ubuntu though.08:57
tgaof what?08:57
_seth7z08:57
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_sethOh, there we go.08:57
mpqhow do I copy files in the terminal?08:58
_sethFile Roller now opens it for some reason.08:58
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membreyaanyone else having problems signing into MSN ? :|08:58
tga_seth: go to http://p7zip.sourceforge.net/, get the sources and compile it yourself08:58
tgaor make an ubuntu package and contribute it :)08:58
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freewoodyHow do I install Qmail in Ubuntu ?09:00
eater773engin --> same problem... 4 the floppy ???09:00
Burgundaviatga, it is about to be synced to breezy. The package hit unstable today09:00
mpqwhat is breezy?09:00
jsgotangcoits the upcoming new release of Ubuntu in october09:01
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mpqhow do I copy files?09:02
eater773dabaSLon--> where can i get some wallpaper ..09:02
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eater773dabaSlom--> what site ???09:02
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mpqI need help09:02
mpqI don't know how to copy files in the terminal09:03
mpqand I can't see it in nautilus09:03
hhurttaman cp09:03
goldfishnooooooooooooooo09:04
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IRCTrollo.O09:05
Madpiloteater773: eyecandy here: http://www.gnome-look.org/09:05
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eater773Madpilot--> browsing.... thanks...09:06
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Madpiloteater773: no sweat.09:07
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bigfoothi all: i need to change the firefox.js file in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/defaults/pref, but it says in Properties-->Permissions Tab "You are not the owner, so you can't change these permissions." How do I become the owner? Is being the owner the same as sudo?09:12
nirajhi09:12
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Burgundaviabigfoot, why do you need to change the permissions?09:12
bigfootBurgundavia, I want to modify the file, so that I can customize how Firefox works. Check out http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/tips09:13
Burgundaviabigfoot, that should be able to be changed within ff09:14
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Seveasbigfoot, why do you want to modify te sytem wide file?09:14
Seveasyou should modify the one in you r homedir09:14
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Seveasand i should learn to spell :S09:14
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bigfootSeveas, there's no firefox stuff in my home directory.09:15
Burgundaviabigfoot, if you can't do it within the UI, you should edit the one in ~/.mozilla/09:15
fortran01how do I play mp3 in ubuntu?09:15
bigfootBurgundavia, how do you change it within ff?09:15
Burgundaviafortran01, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:15
Seveasfortran01, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:15
Burgundaviabigfoot, no idea09:16
fortran01thanks09:16
BurgundaviaSeveas, beat yah!09:16
bigfootBurgundavia, are you talking about about:config?09:16
Seveasdamnit, too slow :)09:16
Burgundaviabigfoot, yes09:16
hhurttabigfoot: open commandline09:16
bigfoothhurtta, okay it's open.09:16
Burgundavianow go to ~/.mozilla09:16
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bigfootBurgundavia, how do i go to that folder?09:17
Seveascd .mozilla09:17
Burgundaviabigfoot, cd ~/.mozilla09:17
bigfootokay i'm in the mozilla folder now.09:17
Seveascd firefox09:17
Burgundaviacd firefox09:17
Burgundaviaah, beaten again09:17
Seveasha, beat ya this time :p09:17
bigfootha!09:17
_sethHA HA!09:18
Burgundaviatwice in a row, too09:18
bigfootdone.09:18
Burgundavianow go into the funny labelled ir09:18
Seveascd default<tab>09:18
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bigfoot cd default<tab>09:18
bigfootbash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'09:18
freewoodyhow do I remove my IP Address from a transparent Squid proxy09:18
Seveastype a <tab> where i say <tab>09:19
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Madpilothelp-giving as a competitive sport. cool.09:19
bigfootBurgundavia, which funny labelled ir? (Do you mean "dir")?09:19
Burgundaviayes09:19
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Seveasit's called default.h6d on my machine09:19
Burgundaviamine is called iuc7ku0609:19
hhurttapressing <tab> completes file / directory names on command line09:19
Burgundaviaiuc7ku06.default09:19
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Seveascd `ls | grep def` works too :)09:20
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undefiendanyone know of a guide for newbies that explains overall how linux works? I just installed ubuntu and i know next to nothing about how the OS is structured or works09:20
bigfooti hit CD<tab>. I got this: cd                      cdparanoia              cdrecord.mmap09:20
bigfootcddb-slave2-properties  cdrecord                cdrecord.shm09:20
Seveasundefiend, read linux for dummies then :)09:21
undefiendhehe... yeah, i guess i should09:21
tgaundefiend: you might find something at www.ltsp.org09:21
Seveasbigfoot, in that folder type this: ls09:21
Seveastga, don't you mean tldp?09:21
undefiendtga, ok, i'll check it out, thx :)09:21
hhurttabigfoot: not cd<tab> but cd <tab>09:21
hhurttathere's a space :)09:21
tgaoops :)09:21
tgaundefiend: www.tldp.org :)09:21
undefiendSeveas, tga, thx :)09:22
tgasorry, I'm tired09:22
bigfootSeveas, dtog3j4p.jeff/ pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini09:22
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hhurttabigfoot:  then it's the dtog3j4p.jeff09:22
Seveasbigfoot, type: cd dtog3j4p.jeff09:22
undefiendwhat's the difference between hoary and warty?09:22
hhurttanote that slash. it means its directory09:22
bigfootokay, i'm now in that funny directory.09:22
Seveasgood09:23
eater773dabaSlon--> how to add a theme09:23
Seveasnow type gedit <end the file you want to edit>09:23
|QuaD-_any american layer here09:23
Seveaseater773, art.gnome.org/faq.php09:23
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fish_wandaDoes anyone know, can   ubuntu use animation svg plz?09:23
fish_wandaas background09:24
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upgrdmananyone here have raid expierence with ubuntu, and willing to try to help me?09:24
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Burgundaviafish_wanda, yes09:25
tgaupgrdman: software or hardware raid?09:25
Seveasupgrdman, if you try to install on raid 1, search the wiki for tips. If you have another question: sorry can't help09:25
upgrdmansw09:25
undefiendcool! tldp had exactly what i was looking for09:25
bcroqhttp://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com (should be easy to fix)09:26
upgrdmantga, software09:26
upgrdmanSeveas, no it was not an issue to having / on raid1... thanks tho09:26
tgaupgrdman: man mdadm :)09:26
drecohu.... running ubuntu 5.04 in vmware... works very well =)09:26
upgrdmantga, willing to take a look at my unanswered forum post about my issues?09:26
tgaupgrdman: link?09:27
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upgrdmantga, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3378309:27
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Xira-Hehehe09:29
Xira-My ATA is now 4.3TB09:29
Xira-And it runs Ubuntu ^_^09:30
upgrdmanwhat do you need 4.3TB?09:30
upgrdman1TB is more than enough for me09:30
Xira-I store lots and lots of video09:30
upgrdmano09:30
Xira-It's nice not to have to worry about running out09:30
tgaupgrdman: you get to play with mdadm, it shouldn't be too hard to create a new raid09:30
upgrdmandvd-rw? :) just kidding09:30
upgrdmantga, ok thx09:30
tgaupgrdman: mdadm -C /dev/md1 /dev/hdc /dev/hdd09:31
Xira-Ubuntu makes an awesome server09:31
Xira-It's really fast09:31
ivoksXira-: what partition table did you create on that?09:31
upgrdman_tga, would it be like /dev/hdc1, and /dev/hdd1 ?09:31
undefiendit's kinda slow on my laptop :/ gotta get a newer one09:32
ivoksXira-: on my 4TB filesystem, i couldn't create msdos...09:32
tgaupgrdman_: if you're working with full drives just use hdc and hdd, you don't need to partition them09:32
Xira-ivoks: 1 partiton for each drive09:32
ivoksah...09:32
ivoksthat's nothing...09:32
ivoksgive me one partition with 4TB :)09:32
Xira-well is an ATA setup of several hds09:33
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bigfoothhurtta, is there a way to edit/access/write to files (with restricted permissions) all in the GUI?09:34
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Xira-http://synchronizedesigns.us/ubuntu/hddrack.jpg <-- Pic of the stand before my case arrived here09:34
upgrdman_tga, well they're already partioned with "fd, linux raid autodetect" ... any reason to delete the partitions...?09:34
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tgaupgrdman_: not really, but I don't think you need them09:35
tgaupgrdman_: you wouldn't have to delete them anyway, mdadm would overwrite them09:36
tgaXira-: anything legal on that raid?09:36
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upgrdman_upgrdman@ubuntu-server:~$ sudo mdadm -C /dev/hdc1 /dev/hdd109:36
upgrdman_mdadm: /dev/hdc1 does not appear to be an md device09:36
Xira-most of it is09:36
hhurttabigfoot: yes, but that requires some tricks09:36
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tgaupgrdman: mdadm -C /dev/md1 /dev/hdc /dev/hdd09:36
Xira-there is some documentation i'm not supposed to have09:36
hhurttaits much easier to use commandline09:37
tgaupgrdman: man mdadm, really09:37
Xira-and some pron that i didnt buy09:37
Xira-but the rest is legit09:37
Xira-:P09:37
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tgaXira-: like.. what? I'm having trouble imagining 4T of legit stuff09:37
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tgalotsa high-quality home videos maybe09:38
grahamMuch props to anyone who works on ubuntu, this has been the easiest and cleanest, most well support distro I have ever used, just wanted to thank someone! Keep up the good work09:38
upgrdman_tga, mdadm: error opening /dev/md1: No such file or directory09:38
Xira-I store a lot of video. I shoot a lot of video. I have a very nice HD camcorder, I rip all of my DVD movies, I store all of my music09:38
Xira-etc09:38
upgrdman_what resolution is your camcorder09:38
upgrdman_and is it progressing or interlaced?09:38
bigfoothhurtta, all right. the title bar of command line shows home/jeff/.mozilla/firefox/dtog3j4p.jeff. But when I try to find this location using Nautilus, the farthest I can go is "/home/jeff" . WHere is it?09:38
tgaupgrdman_: look at the man page, in the Examples section09:38
tgaupgrdman_:          mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/hd[ac] 109:39
_sethbigfoot, Hold Ctrl and press H.09:39
hhurttabigfoot: nautilus doesnt show hidden files or directories by default09:39
hhurttathe ones that start with dot09:39
_sethYou can't view hidden. You need to do what I said in order for them to be viewable,09:39
Xira-Most of it is 1280 x 72009:39
Xira-standard HD on most TVs09:39
tgaupgrdman_: in your case mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/hdc /dev/hdd09:39
chocoIatehow can i copy files into a floppy in ubuntu and be able to read the floppy on windows ;09:39
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Xira-upgrdman: Well, there's a lot of 'clips' and  quite a few projects weaved together09:40
Xira-I do a lot of editing09:40
tgachocoIate: you just do, ubuntu can deal with fat32 just fine09:40
IRCTrollfloppies can be fat16 or ext209:40
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chocoIatewell, when i throw in a regular floppy disk that formatted fat i'm unable to copy anything in there09:40
upgrdman_upgrdman@ubuntu-server:~$ sudo mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/hdc1 /dev/hdd109:40
upgrdman_mdadm: error opening /dev/md1: No such file or directory09:40
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rahchachaI need help09:41
rahchachaplease!09:41
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Xira-rahchacha: we can try09:41
rahchachawhy does my computer reboot when loading xwindows?09:41
chocoIateoh, fat16 ; maybe my floppies were formatted fat32 then :S09:41
chocoIatelemme check :P09:41
Burgundaviarahchacha, are you running breezy?09:42
rahchachaafter install.... i installed it okay.... and it decompressed all the packages and then when it looks like Gnome is starting, my computer reboots... i have a 64-bit amd and it did it both with the 32-bit and 64-bit version of the os09:42
rahchachais breezy the 64-bit version?09:43
Burgundaviano, just checking. Breezy is the next development version. Kind of broken right now09:43
rahchachaah09:43
chocoIatewell they are fat16 it seems ; i dont get it then. I tried to copy and ubuntu choked09:43
Xira-My Mac Mini sets on top of my PowerMac G5 beautifully :)09:43
rahchachaso, any ideas guys?09:44
rahchachai really want to run it... it look so pretty.....09:44
gwilymCan anyone give me a hand please? I'm trying Ubuntu out, and so far am very happy with it. The only thing I'd like to change is that, at present, when I'm not connected to the web and start up my laptop, it gets as far as a message saying something lke "setting time from ntp.ubuntu....", and  then pauses for a long time. Is there a way of changing the timeout? Thanks09:44
Tomcat_gwilym: Change the "timeout" setting in /etc/dhc..../.conf09:44
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Tomcat_gwilym: Don't set it too low or you won't get an IP from your DHCP server.09:45
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Tomcat_gwilym: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf09:45
rahchacha???09:45
graham_I assume Nautilis is the default file manager/viewer... is there anyway to make it show the full path when opening up a folder?  If I open "FIle Browser" from the System Tools menu it looks perfect but if I open any folder it doesn't have it.09:46
chocoIateis mtools a package in ubuntu by default or do i need to download it ; seems to be the tool i must be using :S09:46
bob2chocoIate: you'll need to install it09:46
gwilymThanks Tomcat. I've just looked in there, and everything  seems commented out. Is there a different file to use instead?09:47
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graham_and I can't seem to find any config for the File Browser that has these options.. when you open a folder there is no "View" menu09:47
Tomcat_gwilym: No, it's correct... You need to uncomment the timeout line, or create your own. When everything is commented out, it uses the default setting: 60 seconds09:48
michel_ is petroleum available?09:48
chocoIatea much better option for me would be to be able to write to a drive that is formatted ntfs ; i got dual booth on my system with windows xp ; is it possible to share a drive btw windowsxp and ubuntu, that will make it so much easier for me to share files09:48
Tomcat_gwilym: So, if you've got no DHCP server in reach, it will wait 60 seconds before going on.09:48
chocoIatebob2 : i dont find mtools listed as a package by default in ubuntu :o09:48
bob2chocoIate: then you need to let it access repositories across the intarweb09:49
gwilymLovely. Thanks very much :-)09:49
bob2michel_: you can check...http://packages.debian.org/09:49
bob2chocoIate: mtools can't write to ntfs any more than the kernel can09:49
rahchachaso so if fucked?09:49
rahchachaim fucked*?09:49
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Tomcat_gwilym: It should be possible to put dhcp in background, like Knoppix does, but I have no idea how they do it.09:49
chocoIateall i want to do is copy a file i have in linux to a floppy and read it in windowsxp09:50
bob2rahchacha: did you check if the cd was ok?09:50
chocoIatethis does not seem possible however :S09:50
bob2chocoIate: you don't need mtools for that09:50
bob2chocoIate: it's trivial09:50
bob2chocoIate: sudo mout -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt09:50
bob2chocoIate: sudo cp /home/blah/bleh.txt /mnt/09:50
bob2chocoIate: sudo umount /mnt09:50
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rahchachawell, it did the same thing for both 32-bit and 64-bit installs.... and the 32-bit cd worked on my friends box09:50
chocoIatewhat do those commands do bob2 :P09:51
rahchachaso i dont think its the cds09:51
graham_Is there anyway to make Nautilis automatically do the "Browse" function upon double clicking?09:51
bob2rahchacha: perhaps your hardware is broken.  have you checked with another OS?09:51
Tomcat_chocoIate: Mount the floppy disk drive, copy a file to it, then unmount it.09:51
bob2graham_: try asking on the ubuntu user list09:51
jansenwhen i update my ubuntu to breeze,some problem!!!09:51
bob2jansen: don't use breezy09:51
gwilymBackground sounds good, but a lower timeout will do me fine for now - I'll just give it a go now. Brb09:51
Tomcat_jansen: See the topic? :)09:51
rahchachaother os works fine....09:51
chocoIateok thanks :)09:51
graham_bob2: ok09:51
rahchachawindowz and mandrake09:51
rahchachaboth work09:51
bob2rahchacha: ok09:52
rahchacha:(09:52
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bob2rahchacha: try asking for help on the user list09:52
rahchachawheres that?09:52
bob2rahchacha: please don't /msg people09:52
rahchachasorry09:52
bob2rahchacha: http://lists.ubuntu.com/09:52
rahchachathanks.09:52
jansenbut i wanna restore it to hoary,but failure!09:53
fortran01Is it possible to create the repository trees in my local disk? Can you suggest a doc to do this?09:54
bob2jansen: you can't, you have to reinstall09:54
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bob2fortran01: to mirror the ubuntu archive?  you can do that, one sec, I'll get the url.09:54
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bob2bear in mind it's > 10GB per architecture09:54
jansenbob2 omg09:55
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fortran01do you have a doc that discusses how ubuntu structures these packages?09:55
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fortran01bob2: do you have a doc that discusses how ubuntu structures these packages?09:55
bob2jansen: this is why everyone told you to not upgrade09:55
bob2jansen: and why it's in the channel topic09:55
IIIEarsfortran - adding packages during a fresh install? "reseed" answer file in the iso?09:56
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Xira-http://www.newworldvideogames.com/E3%202005/Storm%20Troopers%202.JPG09:57
Xira-rofl09:57
fortran01IIIEars: can't get what you are implying09:57
holycowjansen, its not a big deal.  backup your data and reinstall09:57
holycowubuntu / debian installs are super simple09:57
bob2fortran01: it's the same structure as debian...let me find the document09:57
jansenholycow thx09:58
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jansenthx all09:58
IIIEarsthere is an "answer file" as part of the initial install that can be modified - for unattended install - a lot of options possible there09:58
bob2fortran01: http://www.interparse.com/debianmirror/09:58
HeManHi! Is anyone having problems with ctrl-key i gnome?09:58
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BurgundaviaHeMan, known bug in Breezy09:59
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HeManBurgundavia: ah! thanks!09:59
fortran01thanks bob2 and IIIEars09:59
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HeManGuess i have to live with that since I live on the "edge"...09:59
graham_Does anyone have a suggestion for what I should use/download for a media player (mp3 / dvd) ?09:59
graham_is Mplayer the best one?09:59
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HeManBurgundavia: You know who works on the problem?10:00
bob2graham_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:00
BurgundaviaHeMan, probably daniels, and it is 9am where he is10:00
saber_ssh key authentication is very cool. i'll never type a password again :)10:00
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BurgundaviaHeMan, so don't bug him10:00
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HeManBurgundavia: *s* I'd like to offer some help...10:01
jansencan i interchange the apt source between the ubuntu & debian?10:01
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Burgundaviajansen, you shouldn't but you can10:02
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jansenthx all,i must be reinstall ubuntu.byebye!10:04
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chocoIateok finally, i'm trying to build a linux driver for the sm56 motorola modem as of instructions from here --->> http://www.sm56.tk the driver is in the download section ; however i end up with the following errors as i try the 'make install' command ; http://pastebot.nd.edu/90210:07
chocoIatecan someone help me fix those errors and get a successful build10:07
chocoIateunfortunately this is my entry into the linux world and it seems as a noob i'm expected to build a driver for my modem :/10:08
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EncryptedchocoIate, apt-get install gcc10:09
bob2it's easier if you have reasonable hardware10:09
bob2chocoIate: no, install build-essential10:09
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NicPwhats the rename command in bash?10:10
kestasand then it said 'DriverName' it probably meant the name of your driver..10:10
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bob2NicP: mv10:10
NicPthanks10:10
bob2NicP: it's a general unix thing, not bash-specific10:10
NicPcool10:11
NicPso i guess you can move stuff too then10:11
NicP:D10:11
holycowhttp://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=3870&cat_id=908  <-- thankfully we are moving away from being in their statistical demographic10:11
chocoIatewell, i will eventually try and get the proper hardware that is linux friendly however in the meantime i want to try and use what i have ; this is my internal modem by the way which is a 56k modem which i do not even use. My external ISDN modem on usb is detected wrongly by ubuntu as some other brand unfortunately :/10:11
bob2chocoIate: the brand doesn't matter10:11
holycowi love how they manage to ratchet up the numbers of dollars lost due to piracy10:11
chocoIateso, i need to run 'install build-essential'10:11
chocoIateand then try the 'make install' command :o10:12
bob2there's probably only 3 isdn manufacturers in the world10:12
bob2chocoIate: no, you install the build-essential package10:12
bob2chocoIate: however you normally install packages10:12
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chocoIateah ok, is the 'build-essential' package there by default or do i have to download it first10:12
bob2chocoIate: you have to install it10:12
bob2chocoIate: apt will download it automatically if neccessary10:12
chocoIatesorry i cannot verify until i log out of here and booth on ubuntu, i'm on winxp right now my modem not working and all :P10:13
bob2chocoIate: sudo aptitude install build-essential10:13
chocoIateok ; hopefully its already there by default10:13
chocoIatethanks, brb10:13
bob2well, it won't be10:13
bob2but it should be on the CD10:13
chocoIateand by the way,  is there any possibilities to fixing my incorrectly identified usb external isdn modem :o10:14
Madpilotholycow: shouldn't admit this, but running Ubuntu is the 1st time in 5yrs I've had a legal OS on my PC... :)10:14
bob2it really doesn't matter what brand it claims it is10:14
chocoIateall i find online is some driver and guides as to how to do it for an avm isdn modem which i do not have unfortunately10:14
kestaschocoIate: if it was identified its probably fine10:14
KimppaDoes anyone know a good tutorial on installing SSL on my LAMP?10:14
chocoIatewell, its not working :S10:14
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PupenoHello10:15
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chocoIatei just know its identified when going in the device manager10:15
kestaschocoIate: did you configure it to use your isp?10:15
PupenoI'm considering switching to ubuntu, but before, I have some questions.10:15
holycowMadpilot, heh, 5 years only?10:15
chocoIatei ran the detect modem command in administrator - networks10:15
holycowi've only paid for win98 that came with that machine ... oh and dos10:15
PupenoIs it, unlike other distros, a *real* for of Debian, with its own repository having life of its own ?10:15
kestasIve got xp oem10:15
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bob2Pupeno: of course10:16
chocoIatebut it came up with nothing, i guess coz its on usb probably, still i do not find any guidelines anywhere as to how to configure an isdn modem10:16
Pupenobob2: good :)10:16
chocoIatethe one in the wiki is specific to the avm isdn modem10:16
Madpilotholycow: well, before that I didn't own my own comp, so just 5yrs, ya...10:16
chocoIatei do not own an avm modem10:16
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PupenoIf I make a package (something that is very likely to happen, sooner or latter), what should I do to contribute back ?10:16
holycowPupeno, the distro basically freezes debian unstable every six months, polishes and ads a few things10:16
holycowPupeno, the patches are submitted back to debian10:16
bob2Pupeno: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU10:16
holycowwin / win10:16
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jsgotangcolook for dholbach or ogra10:18
holycowMadpilot, ehe :)10:18
holycowMadpilot, is ubuntu your first linux distro install?10:18
Madpilotholycow: yes, 98 & XP before last week. total linux noob here...10:19
chocoIatesee this is all i found and its specific to avm-fritz, if i'm not wrong -->> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IsdnHowtoHoary10:19
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holycowMadpilot, cool, welcome10:19
holycowits not a perfect world, but then nothing is10:19
holycowhopefully your having fun10:20
Madpilotholycow: it's mostly fun. really like the sound/vid apps that U installs w/10:20
Madpilotholycow: but I really, really miss Photoshop... :(10:20
chocoIatebob2 : you think i missed something from here or am i right to think that this guide is specific to Avm-fritz ISDN modem -->> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IsdnHowtoHoary10:21
bob2I don't know10:21
bob2usb isdn sounds pretty nasty, tho10:21
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chocoIatewhat modem do you have10:21
gwilymCan anyone give a hanp please. When I reboot without a network connection, I get to the stage of "synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.orp...", and then there's a pause for a long time. I came on here a minute ago, and have tried changing my /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to include "timeout 15;", but it still did the same thing on rebooting10:22
holycowMadpilot, gimp can do all but a few things ps can10:22
holycowand gimp of course can do a lot ps cannot10:22
bob2chocoIate: I have a dsl modem, but all my machines just use ethernet to get on line anyway10:22
chocoIateah ok10:22
holycowMadpilot, i had to sit down and work on a commercial project for about 2 day to unlearn ps10:22
NicPcan you edit in cmyk in gimp?10:22
Amaranthsmeg 0.6 might not have DnD support for moving entries, it's being a PITA right now and it messes with editable cells10:22
bob2chocoIate: are you sure you don't have a avm modem?10:22
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bob2chocoIate: it's the chipset that matters, not the name on the box10:22
Madpilotholycow: need to get used to the GIMP, that's all. was pretty good w/ PS, need to spend a weekend w/ the GIMP..10:22
chocoIatewhat modem do you recommend i get ; i just cannot find anything in the market that specifically says it works in linux10:23
liablegwilym: just hit ctrl+c when it comes up10:23
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chocoIatewell, i do not know what chipset i have :S10:23
bob2chocoIate: for isdn/ isdn never really took off outside germany, afaict, so it's hard to find people who know much about it10:23
gwilymThanks Liable10:23
bob2er, "for isdn?"10:23
chocoIateyep isdn10:23
bob2gwilym: why isn't your network working at boot?10:24
chocoIatei could try the steps here ---> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IsdnHowtoHoary but i dont think i understand any of the steps like here it says :10:24
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chocoIateadd capi to /etc/modules10:24
holycowMadpilot, just keep in mind that you litterally haveto deprogram from it, you will love what it can do :)10:24
chocoIatewhat is that supposed to mean :S10:24
gwilymIt normally works fine, but when I take my laptop home we don't have an internet connection there (boo hiss)10:24
chocoIateall i understand is step 1 lol10:24
graham_I am having trouble finding "gstreamer0.8-mad" even in Universe... There are tons of gstreamer packages but that one just isn't showing up... does anyone know what is up?10:24
bob2chocoIate: that means open /etc/modules in your normal text editor and add the word "capi" on one line by itself, no quotes10:24
Madpilotholycow: deprogramming from PS? the Cult of Adobe lives! :)10:24
holycowMadpilot, when you combine gnome, multiple desktops, and the fact that gimp is not constrained by mdi ...10:24
chocoIateok, i think i did that then10:25
bob2graham_: using hoary?10:25
chocoIateand it never worked10:25
graham_bob2: yes10:25
bob2chocoIate: well, perhaps you did it wrong10:25
chocoIateor should i proceed to the pci steps also10:25
gwilymapart from that tiny glitch I've really enjoyed ubuntu so far10:25
holycow... and you combine linux' awesome memory management (you wont be swapping all the time like on windows, especially if you have tons of ram) ...10:25
bob2gwilym: well, it is in universe10:25
bob2chocoIate: you don't have a pci modem, so no.10:25
holycowits an amazing platform to do graphic design on10:25
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Madpilotholycow: know what u mean tho, i keep trying PS keybrd shortcuts in the GIMP and then swearing...10:25
bob2gwilym: you won't have the delay if you stop ubuntu bringing the interface up on boot10:25
npivhow do I change the option to open video files with totem, I want mplayer to take care of that, ?10:26
graham_bob2: does the package still exist?10:26
gwilymhow would I do that?10:26
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chocoIatewell, i guess its specific to avm fritz then and wont work with my modem :/10:26
holycowMadpilot, yes that got me too10:26
Madpilotdoes anyone know if a Ubuntu-specific GIMPshop pack is being worked on?10:26
chocoIatebrb, i'll try to get the package and run the make install as you suggested and hopefully it will build successfully :P10:27
holycowMadpilot, i actually made a mistake by trying the ps shortcuts for imp (they are there you just haveto turn them on)10:27
chocoIateatleast i'll have a 56k modem working which is better than nothing at this point10:27
holycowMadpilot, i found that the problem with ps like gimp is that you only get like 50% of the way there to ps, but its still not ps10:27
Madpilotholycow: does stock GIMP have PS shortcuts included somewhere?10:27
chocoIatemuch easier to ask for help when i'm in linux and connected online :P10:27
saber_does DDR needs to be used in pairs? or can it be used in singles?10:27
holycowMadpilot, so it ended up feeling like a retarded step child, instead i just decided to learn gimp shortcuts10:28
holycowthat was a lot easier, the only one i had to change was wand of course, a wand is a wand :)10:28
holycowMadpilot, yes, google it10:28
Madpilotholycow: yeah, 'going native' is probably the best way to go.10:28
IIIEarssaber - I have used 3200 DDR in single10:28
holycowyou just haveto copy a file to your gimp dir and rename it or something10:28
holycowMadpilot, whatever works for you, just relaying my experience10:28
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saber_oh ok.10:28
graham_exit10:28
fortran01saber_: ddr?10:28
saber_yes, fortran10:29
IIIEarsdouble data rate ram10:29
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Madpilotholycow: will google for the PS shortcuts. thnx for the tip.10:29
liablegwilym: you can comment out the first line for your eth iface in /etc/network/interfaces (the auto line)10:29
fortran01aahh10:29
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saber_time for bed. later people10:30
liablegwilym: then you can bring it up with 'ifup eth0' (or whatever it is)10:30
Amarantharg, this is messed up10:30
Amaranthi can't seem anything that could be wrong but my callbacks never get called and the drag is rejected :/10:30
fortran01Does totem play dvd with libdvdcss2 installed?10:31
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_sethDelphi is a Win32 based language right?10:31
kestasyup its directx10:31
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_sethYou hear about the latest sploit from M$?10:31
kestasnope10:32
_sethNot FROM microsoft, but that is in Windows.10:32
gwilymLiable: Thanks - I'll probably stick with your ctrl-c shortcut for the moment. Thanks for the help10:32
Madpilotwindows security nightmares - one thing I WON'T miss... :)10:32
_sethThey have a flaw in the way they implement TCP/IP and it allows a remote reset of a Win2K or XP machine.10:32
liablegwilym: yah, much easier :)10:32
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gwilym:) cheers. Bye for now10:33
goldfish_seth: got a link ?10:33
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Madpilot_seth: that's just to make it easier to hit CTRL-ALT-DEL. it's a feature not a bug10:33
_sethgoldfish, http://www.frsirt.com/exploits/04232004.tcp-exploit.php for C code.10:34
ajcan anyone confirm whether a DWL-122 USB wireless adaptor works with Ubuntu ppc?10:34
johnnybezakhey guys10:34
fortran01Why can't I play dvd in totem? I can see that libdvdcss2 is already installed. Is it possible with totem?10:34
kestasmeh dos is pretty pointless10:34
kestasno-onell use it really10:34
kestas*DoS10:34
goldfish_seth: thanks10:34
_sethgoldfish, I'm seeing if it works on my network right now.10:35
bob2fortran01: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, I don't think it's possible with totem10:35
johnnybezakwhats the cli name for thunderbird10:35
johnnybezakdont worry got it10:35
_sethjohnnybezak, mozilla-thunderbird to launch it from CL.10:35
fortran01bob2: I've tried it in mandriva. How about mplayer?10:36
bob2fortran01: yes, same file10:36
johnnybezak_seth: whys that firefox is just firefox10:36
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johnnybezakwoot! someone has been assigned my bug :D10:37
_sethjohnnybezak, *shrug* For me, it is mozilla-thunderbird and mozilla-firefox10:37
fortran01bob2: you mean same libdvdcss2?10:37
johnnybezak_seth: ill make an alias10:37
bob2fortran01: same url, I meant10:37
johnnybezakwhere do i put aliases?10:37
_sethEr, nevermind, I feel like a retard.10:37
johnnybezakdammit i bought a shitty mouse this week, makes me want to get a good one now.10:37
fortran01thanks much bob210:37
bob2johnnybezak: ~/.bashrc10:38
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johnnybezakbob2: thnx10:38
johnnybezakanother bash question10:38
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johnnybezaki want to have a program start everytime bash does. does that go in the .bashrc too10:38
johnnybezak?10:38
kestasyup10:39
johnnybezakdammit that .bashrc file looks complicated10:39
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johnnybezakmandriva, that is the dumbest name ever10:39
bob2johnnybezak: what program?10:39
johnnybezakbirthday10:39
bob2that's more complicated10:39
bob2you don't want it to run from ~/.bashrc10:39
johnnybezakwhere do i want it to run from?10:40
bob2it depends10:40
IIIEarsUbuntu is great but linux on the whole is scarey - giving anyone with even a casual interest the ability to compile source code for exploits easily is just plain frightening.10:40
bob2do you *really* want it to run everytime you start a gnome-terminal or whatever?10:40
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bob2IIIEars: er, how does linux change that at all?10:40
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npivIIIEars - theyre called script kiddies10:41
IIIEarslol - M$ brain washed? - "source code is bad..."10:41
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bob2IIIEars: you can compile exploits on windows, too10:41
kestaspeople use cygwin to use exploits written for linux on windows10:42
kestasbut we cant use ones written for windows on linux10:42
johnnybezakbob2: yep10:42
IIIEarsit would take a day to set up the compiler and debugger.10:42
kestasso linux is worse for exploits really10:42
npivAnd they Use VS .net to crash their own system10:42
npivMS is veryversatile10:42
fortran01Are there repositories for proprietary drivers?10:42
edwinwhat r u guyz chatting abt10:42
bob2presumably installing visual studio doesn't actually yake a day10:42
bob2fortran01: ubuntu tends to just include them in the linux-restricted-modules packages10:42
edwinI just joined in10:42
npivbob2,  wait till you get to the MSDN, its forever10:42
bob2johnnybezak: then put it in ~/.bash_profile, as the last line10:43
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johnnybezakbob2: thanks man10:43
chocoIateback10:43
johnnybezaki'm horrible with birthdays and important dates10:43
chocoIatebob2 : new erorrs http://pastebot.nd.edu/90310:43
fortran01bob2: is that a repository I can add? Or I need to join a club or something?10:43
chocoIate:/10:43
johnnybezakso i need birthday :)10:43
bob2fortran01: eh? it's just a package to install...I'm pretty sure it's on the CD.10:44
johnnybezakbob2: it didn't do anything10:44
eater773dabaSlop --> still there ???10:44
bob2johnnybezak: now, go to the gnome-terminal options and configure it to make "login shells by default" or something10:44
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eater773why is it every new floppy.. will i unmount & remount ???10:45
rudi1234hi@all10:45
tronddwow, vpnc is using 40% of my cpu! Is this normal (I need a dualcore just to run vpnc...)10:45
bob2eater773: yes10:45
johnnybezakbob2: roger that10:45
shido6I have windows media player playing files in ubuntu, but no audio10:46
eater773bob2 -->why is it every new floppy.. will i unmount & remount ??? is there anyother way...10:46
shido6how do I fix this?10:46
fortran01So does that mean Ubuntu has a lot to offer, because I need not be a club member or pay something to download proprietary packages, unlike Mandr*va?10:46
Xira-um10:46
Xira-read the front page of ubuntu.com10:46
chocoIatehttp://lists.progeny.com/archive/anaconda-workers/200312/msg00047.html <-- someone here is saying that the person needs kernel-headers-2.4.18..10:46
Xira-thx10:46
chocoIatehmm10:46
bob2eater773: not really10:46
johnnybezakbob2: hmm set it10:46
johnnybezakbob2: still nothing10:47
eater773so... pls. tell me... how to..10:47
bob2eater773: how often are you using floppies?10:47
chocoIatei have installed the proper kernel headers as of instructions from "how to build a driver"10:47
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liablechocoIate: to compile a modem? yes you generally do10:47
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bob2chocoIate: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:47
eater773most of the time.... we need it to make copy of some file....10:47
liablechocoIate: and sorce too10:47
liable*source10:47
shido6using crossover10:47
eater773bob2-->most of the time.... we need it to make copy of some file....10:48
bob2eater773: there's no better way, sorry10:48
chocoIatei dont believe in isntalled source10:48
chocoIatebut headers i did surely10:48
howdyDoodyis there something in ubuntu for converting avi to mpeg2 and putting them on a dvd with menus like nerovision express?10:48
liablechocoIate: should say in the readme10:48
bob2chocoIate: you did install build-essential, right?10:48
eater773bob2-> so i will remount & mount every new floppy....10:48
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chocoIatei found two types of headers and installed both since i didnt know which one to chooose : 1. linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34_i386.deb and 2. linux-headers-2.6.10-5_2.6.10-34_i386.deb10:49
fortran01eater773: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html10:49
bob2chocoIate: 18:47:36           bob2 | chocoIate: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:49
chocoIateinstall again :o10:49
eater773fortran01 -> browsing.... ok.....10:49
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chocoIateok, i'll try10:49
chocoIatebrb10:49
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KimppaHi. How can I install windows-fonts?10:51
bob2Kimppa: install the msttcorefonts package10:52
Kimppathanks10:52
rudi1234can i disable the hotplug subsystem?10:52
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bob2rudi1234: why?10:52
bob2and no, not without breaking large numbers of things10:52
rudi1234ok thnx10:53
bob2why do you want to disable it?10:53
_sethWhat does everyone use to rip MP3s or OGG, whatever codec you use.10:53
rudi1234bob2,  sry my english :(10:54
tronddoggenc10:54
eater773fortran01-> so there is no way to auto mount & umount in ubuntu.. mandrake has a command automount....10:54
Madpilot_seth: Sound Juicer is stock, and seems to work fine.10:54
bob2_seth: abcde works excellently10:54
_sethAny rippers have CDDB support?10:54
bob2_seth: all of them do10:54
Madpilotalready ripped a bunch of my CDs; never got around to that in Windows...10:54
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eater773fotran01->i know there is still a way to this....10:54
Shuflahi :D10:54
_sethbob2, I mean connecting and getting the information on the CD.10:55
bob2most are configured to use freedb by default, tho10:55
bob2_seth: of course, I've never seen one that doesn't10:55
_sethSound Juicer isn't for me.10:55
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eater773bob2-> i have a  Asus cd writer ... can nero be used in linux and burn cd without problem ??/10:56
bob2eater773: if you want to buy nero, sure...10:56
bob2but why bother? nautilus works for data cds, and there's tons of other choices for other weird formats.10:56
_setheater773, why use Nero under Linux? That means setting up Wine or Crossover,10:56
_sethSerious eater773, get gnomebaker. It's great.10:56
IIIEarsHm - I don't see any binaries in /usr/games/bin the game i would like to build install will use that directory. what will it need there?10:57
howdyDoodyyou can get nero for linux now10:57
bob2_seth: eh? no, they released a native port.10:57
_sethbob2, they did?!10:57
howdyDoodyfree if you have bought windows nero10:57
eater773seth -> gnomebaker.... is that free ???10:57
_setheater773, yes it is.10:57
tronddeater773: take a look at k3b!10:57
eater773browsing ... ok..10:57
IIIEarsAfter a succesful install i would like to translate it to a .deb - can you point me to a page on that?10:57
ice_1963k3b is the Best10:58
johnnybezakbob2: any ideas why birthday isn't showing up, its set as a login shell, but it still wont show, it just goes to the prompt as per usual?10:58
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bob2IIIEars: you can't, really. just install it to /usr/local/whatever/10:58
johnnybezakIIIEars: what are you building?10:58
IIIEarsIf i install this my wife won't miss windows and i'll be a hero.10:58
bob2johnnybezak: paste your ~/.bash_history somewhere10:58
shinzuihi all10:58
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shinzuiany AMD64 or 3ware escalade users tonight?10:59
IIIEarsXScrabble-2.10.tgz10:59
_sethMy god. My system only rips at 1.3x.....10:59
IIIEarsthere is an earlier text oly version - my wife laughed10:59
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johnnybezakbob2: its in #humma11:00
bob2_seth: lots of cdrom drives suck11:00
bob2and most tools on linux default to using cdparanoia -z11:00
IIIEarshonestly so did i except it took about 1/2 for a newb like me to install - lol11:00
chocoIatebob2 : http://pastebot.nd.edu/90411:00
bob2johnnybezak: put it online or #flood11:00
chocoIateseems like i have the headers already :S11:00
liablechocoIate: that howto specifically says, you need kernel source, so of you go again :)11:00
chocoIateoops :X11:00
_sethbob2, this is an Inspiron 8100. It's a laptop, so I didn't expect it to rip at 40x or anything.11:01
bob2ah11:01
_sethWinXP ripped at 14x though.11:01
eater773seth --> downloading gnomebaker...11:01
_setheater773, good for you.11:01
bob2_seth: you can tell cdparanoia to be less careful11:01
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_sethhttp://walterpoorman.net/00001.jpg11:01
_sethMy eye is fucked up man.11:01
johnnybezakbob2: done11:01
IIIEarsbob2 - Thank You for the tip.11:01
johnnybezak_seth: you get punched?11:02
_sethjohnnybezak, my wife decided to get a cat tonight.11:02
_sethI found out the hard way I'm allergic to them. =\11:02
johnnybezak_seth: lol what type of cat11:02
_sethHe is so god damn cute though.11:02
johnnybezaki thought you were gonna say your wife beat you up11:02
bob2johnnybezak: try running "xterm -ls" and see if you get birthday output11:02
chocoIateufff ; the source is like a 35mb download11:02
_sethThe hell if I know. It's cute, and it purrs a lot.11:03
IIIEars_seth - cats are evil - lol - trust me we have two here.11:03
chocoIategonna take forever on 128kbps :P11:03
_sethThis cat reminds me of all the stoner friends I used to have.11:03
chocoIategonna try it now and hopefully it will build correctly this time :S11:03
liablechocoIate: yep, but you have to have it, do it overnight11:03
johnnybezakbob2: nope11:03
_sethMy wife scared them all off, so I like to look back at all the good times we had.11:03
IIIEars_seth - what rolled up a bit of catnip first ten minutes inside?11:03
Encryptedanyone know if its possible t get debootstrap to output useful information ?11:04
johnnybezak_seth: you'll probably get used to it11:04
Encryptedkeep getting E: Couldn't download grepmap11:04
_sethjohnnybezak, no I won't, because I'm taking it to the shelter tomorrow.11:04
bob2johnnybezak: interesting11:04
bob2Encrypted: can you download it manually?11:04
bob2Encrypted: also, archive.ubuntu.com is down atm, if that's what youre using11:04
Encryptedbob2, that would be the problem then.. thx11:05
Encryptedany good mirror ?11:05
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IIIEars_seth - one word for you about pets "gerbil" -  play with them when you want to, they eat very little, and localise the mess. - rofl11:05
bob2I'd say wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive, but all our machines seem unavailable11:05
_sethbob2, you an ubuntu dev?11:06
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eater773set2-> how install this one...11:06
bob2no, I just work for canonical11:06
_sethWho?11:06
bob2johnnybezak: it works for me11:06
bob2_seth: the company funding ubuntu11:06
bob2ie, I wirk with the ubuntu developers11:07
_sethAh, I see.11:07
eater773seth-> how install this one...11:07
_setheater773, why didn't you use do apt-get install gnomebaker11:07
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yfirbob2: how successful has canonical's comercial support thing been? just curious11:07
choco1ateliable : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/Read.scanModem/DriverCompiling.txt <-- here they only ask to install the headers, no mention of source11:07
bob2johnnybezak: make the last line of ~/.bash_profile "ls", and try "ssh localhost" (if you have an ssh server up)11:07
bob2yfir: I still have a job ;)11:08
IIIEars(crosses fingers and hope you all get rich)11:08
choco1atethis is the guide i'm trying to follow, you think i should by default have the source already installed :o11:08
choco1ateis that what they are assuming :S11:08
johnnybezakbob2: ok11:08
bob2johnnybezak: then you should see a listing for your home dir when you ssh in11:08
liablechoco1ate: I have compiled many smartlink modems, and it *does* need kernel source11:08
liableone sec11:08
johnnybezakbob2: yeah it worked11:08
johnnybezakbob2: ill try it with birthdya11:08
bob2ok11:09
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johnnybezakbob2: wierd didn't work11:10
johnnybezakbob2: thanks anyway gotta go to the super11:10
liablechoco1ate: that does say, it works on debian, so you should be right, so try it I spose, I have always made me own.11:10
_sethI need to go have a smoke then get some sleep. Been awake since 4am Tuesday.11:10
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Madpilotis there a Ubuntu prog that will capture streaming audio?11:11
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choco1ateyes but i have errors now as i try to make a build11:12
liablepaste it11:12
bob2Madpilot: mplayer11:12
choco1atethis is my latest build error -->> http://pastebot.nd.edu/90311:13
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liablechoco1ate: shouldnt you be using 'sudo make'?11:14
choco1atewell the error is : /usr/include/asm/smp.h:73:26: mach_apicdef.h: No such file or directory11:14
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bob2well, that file is in my kernel headers11:15
bob2but this is 2.6.10, not 2.6.8.111:15
verden01does anyone know if the australian mirror is down?11:15
Madpilotbob2: thanks, will look into that tomorrow.... er, today. Is 0218 here, got to be @ work far too soon.11:15
Madpilotthanks all, got some good info here tonight.11:15
liablechoco1ate: thats a header, try 'sudo make' 'sudo make install'11:15
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choco1ateyou think its a permissions problem :o11:16
bob2verden01: everything in the UK datacentre is down11:16
bob2(au.archive.ubuntu.com points at archive.ubuntu.com)11:16
choco1atebecause i have to reboot and reboot back into linux, i'm on winxp right now :P11:16
verden01ok11:16
verden01do you know for how long?11:17
bob2no, someone is looking at it now11:17
bob2mirror.isp.net.au has it11:17
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bob2as does internode's mirror11:17
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Linforcer[mad] >.>11:19
Linforcer[mad] are sources down or something?11:19
Linforcer[mad] fantastic11:20
Linforcer[mad] f**** brilliant11:20
liablechoco1ate: cant answer that for sure, but most things that need kernel headers, you compile with sudo, bob2 comment?11:20
bob2I don't think so11:20
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BattletuxLinforcer: my update seems to fail at the security.ubuntu ones11:21
bob2Linforcer[mad] : er, some of the machines hosting the ubuntu archive are down, yes11:21
bob2there are dozens of mirrors, though11:21
bob2Battletux: that machine is off the network atm11:21
Battletuxcool11:21
AmaranthLinforcer[mad] : If you're using breezy you don't want to upgrade right now anyway.11:21
Linforcer[mad] I'm not11:21
liablechoco1ate: hehe, well then you can try it, if it fails, install the kernel source, copy the config and make your own11:21
Linforcer[mad] I just need some stuff >.>11:22
yfirpatience, these things don't last too long11:22
Linforcer[mad] and I run hoary11:22
choco1atething is everytime i never used sudo it would choke saying i didnt have permissions and i go use sudo11:22
choco1atethis time its saying /usr/include/asm/smp.h:73:26: mach_apicdef.h: No such file or directory11:22
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bob2Linforcer[mad] : use a closer mirror11:22
choco1atei googled for this and i saw someone respond back with you need the headers which i already have :S11:22
Linforcer[mad] its up11:23
Linforcer[mad] mine anyway11:23
Linforcer[mad] and there is none closer11:23
Battletuxare there any euro mirrors?11:23
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verden01bob2, where would i find internodes sources.list?11:25
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liablechoco1ate: hmmm, I just tried to make my slmodem driver as a user and got a permission error, which is different to yours, but, try the sudo thing11:26
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bob2 deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/ hoary main11:28
kestasverden01: you have to be an internode customer to use internode repos11:28
kestasI think11:28
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verden01k :(11:28
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choco1ateok, i will try that too ; it seems from here that there is a significant change btw kernel versions -->> http://lwn.net/Articles/driver-porting/11:29
choco1atemaybe the guy who wrote this driver wrote it for an older version11:29
choco1ateboh :^)11:30
choco1atei'm a total noob and  i'm confused as hell, helpless too11:30
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Shuflaugh11:30
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verden01everything is back up now  :)11:32
liablechoco1ate:hehe, I just tried to compile it myself, and got a bucketload of errors, and I *do* have the right headers11:32
choco1ateoh :o11:32
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choco1atemaybe i should just contact the author himself and ask him whats the deal with this driver11:32
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liablechoco1ate: even the same error as you :)11:33
choco1ateazzz11:33
liablechoco1ate: did you get it from that howto page you showed?11:33
choco1atei got this driver from here : -->> http://www.sm56.tk11:33
liableyep the gcc3 one?11:34
choco1atethat guy is supply the driver, however i guess i must compile and build it on my distro11:34
alexandrere11:34
choco1ateyeah, its the same, first i got a gcc error ; and bob2 fixed that, i didnt have the proper packages installed11:34
choco1atenow after having added that package i end up with those errors i pasted11:34
Shuflai'm switching my stable suse9.2 workstation at work to be hoary... wish me luck! and i'll be able to support and test ubuntu more :D:D11:35
alexandrebi g bu of firefex with the page: http://www.football365.fr/infos_clubs/lyon/story_172730.shtml11:35
choco1atewell, its been 4 days now i havent been able to get my modem working under hoary, so i wish you a "lot of luck" which i think you need :P11:36
Shuflachoco1ate: ugh. i've made test instalation for few weeks (after hours), 64bit system - 99,9999% works fine, that little 0,0001% i'd like to polish and commit to ubuntu11:37
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choco1atewell, help me fix my modem then11:37
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Shuflachoco1ate: do you have so-called winmodem?11:37
choco1ate4 days i have frequented this channel and nobody has a better suggestion other than buy a linmodem :P11:38
bob2Shufla: he/she has a usb isdn modem11:38
fortran01I am using 64-bit Ubuntu 5.04. My firefox hangs after installing libflash-mozplugin. Is this a known bug?11:38
Shuflachoco1ate: sorry :( that's not linux-community failure... :(11:38
bob2which, surprisingly, a huge amount of pain11:38
choco1atei dont know what a winmodem and linmodem is ; i have not found a linmodem as of yet and i have googled for modems for hours on top online sellers11:38
Shuflafortran01: you need to setup 32bit chroot, check on ubuntuforums.org11:39
liablechoco1ate: that driver has some problems I think, is that the only one you could find? is there no source on the proper site for it?11:39
bob2fortran01: is it in the BTS?11:39
bob2Shufla: er, for the Free flash plugin?11:39
Shuflaops11:39
Shuflahmmm11:39
fortran01bob2: bts?11:39
choco1atei swear i'd be glad to just buy a linmodem and fix this, i just dont find any modems that say they support linux :S11:39
athlonis it normal for firefox to  become unresponsive when its fetching pages ?11:39
bob2fortran01: the bug tracking system11:39
fortran01bob2: newbie here, where can I see the bts?11:40
Shuflaafair libflash-mozplugin is not good flash plugin :( it supports only flash v3, isn't it?11:40
bob2fortran01: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, laucnhpad.ubuntu.com/malone, bugs.debian.org11:40
bob2no flash plugin is good11:40
choco1atewell, that is the only site thats producing drivers for my internal 56k modem, which i never use, it came this way with my pc, while i have an external isdn modem to which i have given up trying to fix since there is no guides online that help with this11:40
bob2the binary one makes firefox as unstable as a teapot on my nose, and the Free ones don't support all of flash11:40
Shuflamy company site is full of flash :(11:40
fortran01so where can I get a working flash plugin for my 64-bit system?11:40
kestaschoco1ate: isnt that driver for 2.4?11:40
Shuflait's "enterprise" :D11:41
choco1atethe only one guide i found is specific to avm-fritz11:41
bob2Shufla: remind them they've lost every blind customer they might have ever had11:41
bob2fortran01: there probably isn't one11:41
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bob2fortran01: try asking on the user list11:41
Shuflafortran01: imho the best way is to setup 32bit chroot. but if you are not power-user better install 32bit system...11:41
Shuflabob2: huh. bilnd people do not need high power cockery :D11:41
fortran01Shufla: do you a doc on doing 32bit chroot?11:42
Shuflafortran01: and your problem _is_ solved on ubuntuforums.org11:42
choco1atehere this guy on www.sm56.tk says -->> Exclusively for the 2.4.18.14 and above versions of the Linux kernel users !!11:42
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choco1ateand then he goes on -->> We have a new problem with the call __wake_up from SM56 Driver that is not fixed yet, and  of course I don't have the Source Code of SM56 Modem  Driver, simply working with the sm56.lib.11:42
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choco1atedont think i need to be reading any of that11:43
stu1Bah11:43
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count0nz2.4x and above means 2.4.xx only generaly11:43
choco1atemaybe i should just contact that author11:43
liablechoco1ate: wait, have you edited your makefile?11:43
choco1ateif he will ever reply11:43
choco1atenope11:43
Slider^^I have tried to install Ubuntu several times, but all the times I have needed to reinstall winXp, and formate my computer.. My plan is to have one drive with Ubuntu on it and one drive with linux, I tried to do this as i said, but it did not work as plannes.. What to do?11:43
Slider^^I have tried to install Ubuntu several times, but all the times I have needed to reinstall winXp, and formate my computer.. My plan is to have one drive with Ubuntu on it and one drive with lwinxp, I tried to do this as i said, but it did not work as plannes.. What to do?11:43
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ShuflaSlider^^: do not repeat. and describe your problem.11:44
choco1atewell, i have winxp and ubuntu and i am a noob, installed first time11:44
liablechoco1ate: I just got mine to compile by changing the kernel path :)11:44
choco1atewith dual booth and i dont rem having to do anything special11:44
choco1ateoh really11:44
choco1atewhat did you change liable :o11:44
count0nzSlider^^,  install XP 1st... then install ubutu on 2nd drive11:44
Slider^^I tried11:45
liablechoco1ate: join #flood11:45
Slider^^but when I boot, nothing is found11:45
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Battletuxanyone good at wlan?11:45
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count0nzdid you install grub on your 1st drive ?11:45
bob2Battletux: way better to just ask your question11:45
Slider^^I am not sure11:45
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Slider^^how do I decide where grub goes?11:45
choco1ateliable : can you paste it on www.pastebot.org11:45
choco1atemuch better11:46
bdmpCan someone give me a hand with mounting problem.  I have a SD card that suddenly became a "read only file system" and won't let change the permissions.  When I do umount it says the device is busy. Any suggestions?11:46
mauveHi my X server doesnt start anymore on a newly upgraded breezy machine, it complains it cant find the 'fixed' fonts, can anybody help11:46
Shuflaok11:46
liablechoco1ate: no, dont worry i'll do it here11:46
liableits not much11:46
kestasseems to compile fine here choco1ate11:46
Shuflavga=0x319 is for 1280x1024x32 for fb?11:46
count0nzbasicly you need grob to be install on your 1st drive then you setup a menu for booting XP/Linux on grub rrub will boot and ask you what you want to boot11:46
tronddmauve: read the topic :)11:46
Battletuxbob: ok have followed guide here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926 After install i do sudo ndiswrapper -l and it shows the driver as invalid. but i am using the correct .inf file11:46
bob2mauve: er, don't use breezy if you can't fix things for yourself11:46
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choco1ateok cool :)11:47
Slider^^Ok thx, but how am I sure grub is installed on the right drive?11:47
mauvebob2 all my xfonts packages are installed fine...11:47
keffohm, just a question.. I downloaded a new font, where do I put it?11:48
keffoim not that sure, a friend of mine helped me last time11:48
bob2mauve: indeed, but X is undergoing a big transition atm11:48
bob2keffo: ~/.fonts/11:48
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bob2keffo: or fonts:/// in nautilus (the file manager)(11:48
liablekestas: without editing the makefile?11:48
mauvebob2 sure, I just want to test it I even occasionally file a bugreport :)11:48
count0nzit shauld ask you when it installs grub... but i have a odd feeling it will try to default to use hdb not hda11:48
keffodo i need to run any command afterwards?11:48
kestasliable: I had to change /usr/src/linux-2.4 to /usr/src/linux11:48
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keffoto like.. set them up or something11:48
SLhola11:48
bdmpI got a crazy SD card can someone help?11:49
SLespaoles?11:49
liablekestas: you have source installed then?11:49
bob2keffo: no11:49
kestasliable: yup11:49
keffokk11:49
bob2bdmp: sounds like the card is broken11:49
kestas2.6.10 source11:49
count0nzsomeone dual booting dual drives can help you more i only have 1 drive and only boot 1 os11:49
bdmpno11:49
liablekestas: damn I thought you might know what to put just for headers11:49
bdmpi have been using it all the time11:49
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choco1atehmm, i just noticed on www.sm56.tk -->>  You Need to have installed the Correct Kernel source and it headers in your Linux System depending upon your distribution (Red Hat ,SuSe ,Mandrake etc) and Kernel Version.11:49
choco1atehmm11:49
bdmpi can read the files i cant write11:49
choco1atehe says sources too :S11:49
Slider^^OK count0nz I think that was the problem that grub was installed on the wrong drive, I need grub to bee installed on the boot up drive right?11:50
kestasliable: imho you might as well just install the source, it comes in handy from time to time, and only takes ~60mb11:50
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bdmpI can even delete files in my pda but not with ubuntu11:50
liablechoco1ate: didnt we have this conversation?11:50
bob2bdmp: yes, linux mounts filesystems as read-only if they're damaged11:50
keffohm, bob2 there is a local.conf, should i put it in there aswell?11:50
bdmpcheck it out11:50
liablekestas: talking to the converted :)11:50
count0nzSlider^^, yes i belive thats your problem11:50
kestasliable: k :)11:50
bdmpI went to put stuff in it and it said it was full11:50
bdmpI was like what?11:50
bob2keffo: no11:50
Linforcerhey does anyone know what I should link /usr/src/linux to if the driver install script wants a "kernel source files in /usr/src/linux/"?11:51
choco1ateyeah we did liable ; but you also said you werent sure i needed the sources and on drivercompile guides they only said to get the headers ; i am downloading the sources right now though just in case, got a few minutes of download left11:51
kestasLinforcer: install linux-source11:51
Slider^^Ok then I aks this question, How to make sure grub gets installed on the C drive, when your linux is going inn on the D drive?? C drive contains windows11:51
mauvebob2 okay maybe I'm way over my head here with breezy, but do you know a way to fix this 'fixed' font?11:51
liableLinforcer: the kernel source11:51
kestasLinforcer: then tar -jpvzf /usr/src/linux-blah.tar.bz211:51
Linforcerliable duh11:51
Linforcerkestas11:51
kestasLinforcer: then ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.10 /usr/src/linux11:51
bdmpand then I realized there was a trash file hidden on the card that had all the stuff I had deleted before. So I tried to get rid of that file and it went crazy after11:51
kestasLinforcer: or ln -s /usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux-2.6.1011:51
kestasLinforcer: I forget which11:51
Linforcerkestas coo'11:52
liableLinforcer: duh, /usr/src/linux is a symbolic likk11:52
Linforcerlemme write that down it's for a mate11:52
choco1ateliable : so is this all i need to change in the makefile -->>: <kestas> liable: I had to change /usr/src/linux-2.4 to /usr/src/linux11:52
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liablechoco1ate: no, not for you :(11:52
kestaschoco1ate: thats right, and you need to do what I just told Linforcer to do11:52
liablekestas: no source, just headers11:52
bob2keffo: please don't /msg people11:53
janseni'm coming,hello all!11:53
bob2keffo: just put them in ~/.fonts11:53
eater773seth-> how to install this one... diffrent from window i use.. since i save this to a tmp folder...11:53
johnnybezakwhats with /msg ing people?11:53
kestasliable: I think you need source11:53
bob2mauve: I believe the solution is in a bug report on one of the X packages, but I forget which11:53
kestasliable: but if you dont then fine11:53
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liablekestas: no me hahah, choco1ate11:53
bob2johnnybezak: I don't know why people do it11:53
liablesheesh11:53
keffookok11:53
keffosorry11:53
keffothanks11:53
mauvebob2 thanks I go looking for it11:53
janseni cant use the azureus under ubuntu gnome11:53
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jazzkahi!11:53
kestas??11:54
jansenjazzka hello11:54
bob2jansen: sure you can11:54
jansenbob2 hi11:54
johnnybezakbob2: oh ok, but why not use it?11:54
liablekestas: trying to help choco1ate build his driver :)11:54
choco1atewell, you both have confused me good :P11:54
liablehah11:54
jazzkaI've lost my halt program, so I cant shutdown my computer, wich package should I re-install?11:54
kestasliable: yeah I understand that much, but he needs to install source right?11:54
choco1atei dont know what to change :P11:54
bob2johnnybezak: because then it means I'm responsible for helping them, instead of the whole channel11:54
jansenbob2 i'm reinstall the ubuntu but i'm upgrade to warty warthog now11:54
kestaschoco1ate: I could always send you my precompiled version11:54
Slider^^How to make sure grub gets installed on the C drive, when your linux is going inn on the D drive?? C drive contains windows btw11:55
bob2jansen: do you mean hoary?11:55
liablekestas: i'm not convinced he does, just needs that line to point to his headers11:55
kestaschoco1ate: were using the same system right?11:55
choco1atei finished downloading the source11:55
eater773kestas-> how to install this one... diffrent from window i use.. since i save this to a tmp folder...11:55
jansenbob2 yep11:55
kestaseater773: what one?11:55
Battletuxanyone know where i can get the 32bit broadcom b/g wifi mini pci driver from?11:55
eater773kestas --> sorry.. i mean.. gnomebaker..11:55
johnnybezakbob2: fair enough :D11:55
bob2jansen: did you install java properly?11:55
jansenbob2 yep11:55
kestaseater773: well I dont understand what your problem is11:55
jansenwait moment11:55
choco1ateplease do send me your precompiled version : i'm using 2.6.10-5-38611:56
liablechoco1ate: cant do11:56
choco1atewhat did you have to change, tell me this also11:56
liablechoco1ate: you now have your kernel source installed?11:56
choco1atei just finished downloading the sources ; 35mb download11:56
kestaschoco1ate: do you want me to tell you what to do or send you the precompiled version?11:56
kestaseither will work11:56
choco1atewell, i have to reboot on linux, installt he sources11:56
jansenbob2 wait moment,i'm upgrading now11:56
choco1ateand do everything there, tell me everything now, here :P11:57
choco1ateboth kestas11:57
choco1ate:P11:57
jansenbob2 do u using the hoary?11:57
bob2jansen: yes.11:57
kestasokay Ill message you so it doesnt all get mixed up with the chan stuff11:57
choco1atethanks, eternally grateful for this :P11:57
jansenbob2 and i think u dont use the breeze but,some software u must be use from breeze,readlly?11:58
jazzkahey! I've lost my halt program, any help?11:58
eater773kestas--> i download gnomebaker for cdwriter software... now it is in a zipfile... when i try to extract and installed the software it won't installed.11:59
bob2jansen: I don't know of anything that requires using breezy11:59
bob2aside from mono11:59
bdmpBob2: the sd card works fine in my pda. if I reformat it dou you think it will work?11:59
bob2jazzka: http://packages.ubuntu.com/11:59
bob2jazzka: look for the package containging /sbin/halt11:59
kestaseater773: wait a sec okay?11:59
jazzkabob2, allright11:59
bob2jazzka: also, I'd be very very scared about what's eating your disk like that11:59
kestasbe right there11:59
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bob2bdmp: how old is it?11:59
jansenbob2 i just wanna latest kernel!11:59
bob2jansen: why?11:59
bdmp3 months11:59
bob2bdmp: how much have you used it?12:00
bdmpbob2 a good amount12:00
lifelessbob2: could be baz ;)12:00
bob2how bazaar.12:00
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bdmpbob2: it says the disk is full12:02
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bob2bdmp: "it"?12:02
bdmpbob2 I deleted everything12:02
bob2peronsally, I'd be betting the card is screwed12:02
bdmpkde12:02
bdmpkonquerer12:02
bob2files don't actually get deleted if you have them open12:02
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bdmpwhy does it work in the pda12:03
bdmp?12:03
mfabbrihi12:03
mauvebob2, sorry for bothering but could you please check if you could find the bugreport again, I have only console and bugzilla is a little awkward in links.12:03
bob2I don't know12:03
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bob2mauve: no,sorry, I don't know which X package it was12:03
mauvehmm12:03
bob2perhaps someone has asked about it on the usr list or on the forums12:04
mfabbriI've got an issue with gdm vnc ssh12:04
mauvebob2, thanks I'll go checkout the forums12:04
kestaseater773: whats a zip file?12:04
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eater773kestas-> zipfile is a compress file... needed to be extracted ...12:06
kestaseater773: why is it a zipfile though? why not get gnome-baker from synaptic?12:06
eater773kestas -> website ???12:07
kestaseater773: why not install gnome-baker from synaptic?12:07
kestaseater773: 'website ???' is not a very good reason12:07
eater773kestas -> synaptic ???12:08
thenukeeater773: ubuntu has an package manager, apt-get&dpkg, and synaptic is front-end(graphical interface) for it, you can find it from the gnomes menus12:09
thenukeeater773: you dont have to download and install any software by yourself12:09
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thenukeeater773: just fire up synaptic and choose software you want to install12:10
eater773kestas -> already in synaptic menu12:10
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johnnybe1akhey guys12:10
kestaseater773: then its installed12:10
keffook, i want to edit my "gnome-menu".. i want to move "system" and "places" into "Program" that from now on only should be an icon12:10
kestaseater773: if by 'already in synaptic menu' you mean theres a green square next to it in synaptic12:11
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johnnybe1akis there anyway to set keyboard short cuts for stuff thats not in the prefs. pane12:11
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kestaskeffo and johnnybe1ak you should check the menus, therell probably be something in there to set menus and keyboard short cuts12:12
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eater773kestas-> reload button u mean..12:13
ubunnewbHi i wants to install mencoder-k6 my version is Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary, this needs libc6 >= 2.3.2.ds-21 I only have 2.3.2.ds-20 What to write in sources.list to get this newer version of libc?12:15
ubunnewbis there a testing tree like in debian or something like that?12:15
keffokestas, there is not12:15
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wdhkestas, there is not standard menu-editor in gnome atm12:16
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mjrubunnewb, not really12:16
keffobut how teh hell do I edit the menus12:16
keffo:<12:16
wdhthe wiki does show an alternative menu-editor though12:16
keffomust be a way? ;P12:16
wdhkeffo, search the wiki12:16
ubunnewbmjr: but how to get the newer version of libc?12:16
mauvebob2, I fixed it by writing the md5sum of xorg.conf to /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:17
mjrubunnewb, perhaps that's the unstable version, I don't know12:17
mauvebob2, in case you wanna know :)12:18
keffooi wdh http://dev.realistanew.com/menu-editor/menueditor_0.4.3ubuntu1_all.deb12:18
keffowhats that?12:18
keffofound it while installing DC++12:18
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mauvebob2, thanks for your pointers anyway :) have a nice day12:18
mauve&quit12:18
j^hi, can someone please restart the torrent tracker at torrent.ubuntu.com:696912:19
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keffoah12:20
uprohi all! I have tried ubuntu after years of slackware - and I love love love it! GReat work!!!12:20
keffothis is exactly what i was looking for12:20
keffoawesome application ;p12:20
ubunnewbmjr: do you have an example sources.list for unstable?12:20
ubunnewbor anyone else of course :)12:20
Nermalubunnewb, switch hoary to breezy12:20
ubunnewbNermal thx12:20
ubunnewbthat`s i wanted to know12:20
Nermalnote topic12:21
uproI'm a SysAdmin at a school, and I was wondering if there's an automated way to exactly clone one instalation to other computers?12:21
ubunnewbk haven`t read the topic *shame*12:21
liableubunnewb: you are a newb? and you want to run unstable?12:21
Linforcerdamn12:21
kestasupro: depends if the systems are fairly similar12:21
ubunnewbliable: yes of course12:21
Linforcermy dad is such an idiot12:21
keffohm12:21
keffoi hate gnome tbh12:21
keffoyou cant edit the menu12:21
keffo..12:21
uprokestas: the systems are absolutely identical12:21
Linforcerranting about how linux being so segmented is such a bbig problem12:22
tronddupro: man dd12:22
keffo"#(%(#%#"#%%%%!"!"12:23
Linforcersays yau "can't find your way throug all the distros" and it "needs unity to beat microsoft"12:23
Linforcerthe guy's clueless12:23
BurgundaviaLinforcer, your father has a point12:23
kestasLinforcer: not really, but lets not start talking about this12:23
Linforcerbut well.. he uses Novell Linux Desktop so nuff said12:23
bob2upro: you can use FAI then, ore debconf pre-seeding or just copy the disk image12:24
bob2upro: depends what you want to do12:24
keffoto be honest, ANYONE who managed to change the "GNOME-menu", first I want to move Places and System into my "Program" - And i got tasks called "Debian" and "Other" in there.. that I really really dont wnat12:24
keffoplease help out, imma smash something up soon ,<12:24
bob2upro: or kickstart12:24
uproThe goal is to install and fine-tune one machinme, and then get exact clones of that install without hassle with an automated tool12:25
Linforcerbah.. if things were centralized before and rpm was the standard debian or ubuntu would never have lived12:25
Nermalkeffo, I didn't need to12:25
keffoNermal, ?12:25
Linforcer"uniting linux" is in no way the answer12:25
NermalI had no need to screw with my gnome menus12:25
NermalI simply used them as they were12:25
uprowhat's "kickstart"?12:25
count0nzyou unite linux and you make another microsoft12:26
keffoNermal, yes and do I care about what you say? you dont answer my question.. my menus are screwed, just want to fix em.12:26
kestaskeffo: /usr/share/desktop-directories12:26
Nermalkeffo, I was about to answer it12:26
Burgundaviaupro, http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/ch-kickstart2.html12:26
keffothank you kestas12:26
keffoNermal, ye right12:26
Linforcercount0nz yeah, nobody is pleased with windoze, for Linux, there is at least a distro for everyone12:26
Nermalkeffo, :)12:26
NermalI wish you luck with a capital F12:27
kestasLinforcer: just use what os you want and stfu about it12:27
kestasyeesh12:27
count0nzLinforcer, agree some like gentoo, ubantu, lfs, ubumtu its choice12:27
NermalLinforcer, trouble with linux is that people have a choice, and very few people are educated enough to make that choice12:27
Linforcerkestas... jeez, what's wrong with a lil discussion12:27
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uprokickstart looks good, I think I'll try that! Had no clue about its existance...12:27
liableshit #ubuntu is getting like #debian :)12:27
uprothanks, and bye!12:27
kestasLinforcer: its the exact same lil discussion we have here twice a day12:27
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Nermalliable, has been for a while12:28
liablehah12:28
Linforcerxestas and after all those other people havehad it I get declined the rdght12:28
Linforcerkestas and after all those other people havehad it I get declined the rdght12:28
thr1ceno, people are much nicer hear12:28
Linforcerthanksand after all those other people havehad it I get declined the rdght12:28
Linforceroops12:28
kestasfine but you sound like a mindless drone12:28
keffo;P12:28
Linforcersorry about that >.>12:28
liablehmm, yes generally, debian isnt that bad though :)12:29
count0nz:)12:29
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Linforcerkestas do you have a non-dronic enlightend point of view you'd like to share then?12:29
NermalLinforcer, hush12:29
kestasnot about why linux is so great and windows is so crap no12:29
Linforcerkestas that's not what it's about12:29
count0nzWindows is 616 :)12:30
Linforcerkestas you were either misreading or misinterpreting12:30
Linforcerhahah12:30
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kestas<Linforcer> count0nz yeah, nobody is pleased with windoze, for Linux, there is at least a distro for everyon12:30
NermalLinforcer, hush12:30
Linforcercount0nz been reading slashdot well12:30
kestasyawwwnnn12:30
Linforcer61612:30
thr1cewhat is 616 ?12:30
Linforcerthe REAL number of the beast12:31
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thr1ce#windows?12:31
Linforcerturns out they were wrong all along12:31
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kestasthr1ce: its simple when you take the ascii integers of windows, add them together, take their square root and round them, multiply them by 3 it comes out as 616!!12:31
keffoooooooooooooooooh12:31
keffosometimes i really really hate apt-get12:31
keffoi was trying to remove xmms12:31
kestasthr1ce: is that scarey or what?12:31
keffoto install beep-media instead12:31
keffonow it removes my mplayer12:31
keffomozilla-mplayer12:31
keffomplayer-fonts12:31
kestaskeffo: this is why you shouldnt play around with the menus12:32
keffothis had nothing todo with my menus..12:32
kestasoh okay12:32
kestas:)12:32
Nermalkeffo, mplayer needs xmms12:32
thr1celol12:32
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keffooh crap12:32
Nermal*shocker*12:32
keffothen I screw mplayer aswell12:32
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Nermalapt generally has a good reason for doing what it does12:32
Linforcerit's called a dependancy tree ;)12:33
Nermalaye12:33
keffoi guess12:33
keffobrb12:33
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we2byhow do I add usb dma support?12:34
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thenukemy friend has a problem, what does it take to play xvids?12:35
thenukeshould those codecs in ubuntuguide be enough?12:35
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Linforcerthenuke I reckon it would. what's he trying to play it in12:35
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thenukeLinforcer: well, dunno, some xvid :D12:36
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keffohm, fekk :<12:36
Linforcerthenuke I mean in what videoplayer >.>12:36
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thenukeLinforcer: I asked him to check if he really had installed all those codecs12:36
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thenukeLinforcer: ah ok =) let's see, does it really make difference too?12:36
keffodoesnt really work that.. with /usr/share/desktop-directories12:36
keffothey are still there12:36
keffoeven tho i removed them12:36
Linforcerthenuke probably not. he could try installing vlc (also in the ubuntuguide, tends to be a sure fire way for things like this12:37
keffo...12:37
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Linforcerthenuke and then I mean playing the file(s) in vlc when he has of course ;)12:38
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keffoargh12:38
keffothis really bugs me off12:38
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kefforight now, I hate GNOME more than   anything in this world12:38
Linforcerkeffo trying to edit menus?12:38
keffoyes.12:38
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Linforcerkeffo I know how :D12:38
keffothe gnome-menu12:38
keffooh, great.. then you tell me please ;P12:39
thenukeLinforcer: :-) thank you for the tip12:39
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Linforcerkeffo I had the worst time splitting games into Gnome games and other games12:39
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Linforcerkeffo what's yer goal?12:39
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thenukeLinforcer: cant find vlc from the guide12:39
Linforcerthenuke maybe I was wrong maybe it's just in the sources >.>12:40
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bdmpbob2: qtparted worked on the sd card. I messed the thing up when I tried to delete the hidden trash folder on the sd card.  How do I delete files with out them being saved on the card in that folder?12:40
keffoI got two goals, in "Applications" I have some directories I want to move.. for example a "Debian" - That i think Fluxbox added.. And a dir called "Other"12:40
keffothats the first12:40
keffothen I want to move System and Places into "Applications"12:40
keffoAnd make "Applications" to just "menu"12:40
keffoor something12:40
keffoi will show12:40
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keffohttp://www.deviantart.com/view/17173177/12:41
Linforcerthenuke yeah just install package vlc12:41
keffopretty much like that menu12:41
Linforcerkeffo hmm m let me see12:41
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tahorge3_zelda_tp_480.mov: Apple QuickTime movie (fast start, compressed header) <- what gstreamer plugin do I need to play that ?12:41
keffoalmost exactly like that, damn its nice12:41
Linforcerkeffo that's gonna be a bother, yikes12:42
Linforcerkeffo but it's doable  :D12:42
bob2bdmp: I don't use nautilus12:44
bob2presumably it has a c12:44
bob2onfig option for this12:44
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bkwhttp://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/register.php not found? :/12:44
thenuke13:45 < keffo> pretty much like that menu12:44
thenuke13:45 < keffo> pretty much like that menu12:44
thenukeoops :D12:44
thenukeMy mouse got out of my hands =)12:45
tahorgthenuke: kill it12:45
k4rp0r:D12:45
thenukeit's pretty dead already, having issues with buttons12:45
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keffook ;P12:45
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we2byhi12:51
we2bysudo echo Y > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first12:51
we2bywhy do I get permission denied????12:51
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bigfoothi all, in Firefox-->File-->Import, I try to click the "Next" button, but nothing happens. I can only hit "cancel." What must I do?12:52
kestasbigfoot: it probably doesnt detect another browser12:53
we2byok, I want  the fucking root account12:53
we2by:(12:53
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lifelesswe2by: calm down please12:54
kestaswe2by: sudo sh12:54
we2byI never get help in here :(12:54
lifelesswe2by: what happening is the shell is interpretting your command12:54
lifelesswe2by: so if you do this it will work:12:54
lifelesssudo bash -c "echo Y > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first"12:54
kestaslifeless: you're echoing Y with root privs12:54
kestasI mean we2by12:54
kestaswe2by: you're echoing Y with root privs12:54
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lifelesskestas: no, hes /not/ echoing with root which is why its not working.12:55
lifelesswe2by: try my command line12:55
kestaswe2by: but trying to write to the file with normal privs12:55
we2byworked :)12:55
kestaslifeless: he is echoing with root privs12:55
bigfootkestas, It's true that there is no other browser installed. But that Function is good for importing bookmarks too! What happens when you try it?12:55
lifelesskestas: hes not but he wanted to. reread what was going on K ?12:55
lifelesswe2by: great.12:55
kestasbigfoot: try Bookmarks>Manage bookmarks>File>Import12:56
kestaslifeless: he is echoing with root privs12:56
Nermalwe2by, sudo su to get root :|12:56
kestassudo echo blah12:56
kestasechos blah with root privs12:56
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lifelesskestas: the redirection happens with user privs12:57
kestaslifeless: exactly, but he is echoing with root privs, thats what Im saying12:57
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peaceyallhi12:57
lifelesskestas: ok, technically correct, but kinda not helpful for his problem.12:58
kestaslifeless: just thought I would point out why its not working12:58
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lifelesskestas: you didn't point out why its not working, you pointed out the only bit that was working.12:59
kestaswe2by: you're echoing Y with root privs12:59
kestaswe2by: but trying to write to the file with normal privs12:59
kestasI thought it was clear enough guess I was wrong12:59
lifelesskestas: I would start with the bit that doesn't work ;).12:59
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peaceyallI clicked software update and then i pressed reload. now i get an error after evrythign downlaods, i get "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" , why?01:02
kestasyeah I get that too, it doesnt stop it updating it just stops it from verifying updates01:02
kestasits a pita but I havent seen a solution yet01:02
peaceyalloh ok01:02
k4rp0rlooks like its time to smoke a cigaret :D01:03
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sammyhi01:04
sammyI'm having some problems with my sound card. It's a sound blaster card01:04
kestaswhats the problem?01:05
sammyI only sounds when I use xmms01:05
sammybut also very noisy01:05
sammycan't hear anything with mplayer vlc realplayer etc...01:05
kestasand which output plugin are you using?01:05
kestasin xmms01:05
sammyalsa with xmms01:05
sammyit works only with that one01:05
kestaswhat happens when you use esd or oss?01:05
sammyno audio server are running01:05
kestasso oss doesnt work?01:06
sammyit says to check my card01:06
kestastry cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp01:06
athlontrying to install mplayer-custom with synaptic but I get this error message : "mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2  but it is not installable" what gives ?01:06
sammyneither oss01:06
kestasdoes that make static noise?01:06
sammycat /dev/random > /dev/dsp ??01:06
kestasyeup01:07
sammyshould I hear some noise?01:07
kestasurandom would be better01:07
kestas/dev/urandom01:07
kestasdont want to waste precious entropy on this01:07
kestasyou should01:07
kestaswith urandom01:07
sammynothing01:07
sammycan't hear anything01:07
kestasathlon: do you have all repos installed, and using universe and all that?01:07
kestassammy: hmm try aplay /dev/urandom01:08
sammy?01:08
kestasaplay /dev/urandom01:08
kestastype it01:08
kestassee if it makes noise01:08
sammynothing01:08
kestaswhat does cat /proc/asound/cards say?'01:08
athlonkestas,  I am using : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe main restricted multiverse, deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted and some more01:09
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sammymay I paste it?01:09
kestassure01:09
sammysammy@sammy:/usr/src$ cat /proc/asound/cards01:09
sammy0 [I82801DBICH4   ] : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH401:09
sammy                     Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with ALC650D at 0xe2102000, irq 1701:09
sammy1 [Camera         ] : USB-Audio - Camera01:09
sammy                     Camera at usb-0000:02:01.1-1, full speed01:09
sammy2 [Live           ] : EMU10K1 - Sound Blaster Live!01:09
sammy                     Sound Blaster Live! (rev.10) at 0x8800, irq 2201:09
kestasathlon: hmm this may be a backports problem01:09
sammysammy@sammy:/usr/src$01:09
kestasah I see01:09
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kestasyoure using card 0 I think you want to use card 201:10
athlonokay01:10
kestastry cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp201:10
sammywow01:10
sammythat was too loud01:10
sammy:D01:10
kestasshould have warned you eh :P01:10
kestasoh well01:10
count0nzwhats the package name to select the entire system ?01:10
kestasokay01:10
sammydamn01:10
sammyyou shoud !01:10
sammyok01:11
sammywhat now ?01:11
Linforcerif I install grub201:11
sammyshall I make a link ?01:11
kestasnope 1 sec01:11
kestasnano /etc/esd.conf01:11
Linforcerdoes that have a nifty splashscreen?01:11
rudi1234how can i add an HDD in the "computer" Browser01:11
kestasnano /etc/esound/esd.conf rather01:11
sammyI actually wouldn't like to use esd01:11
kestashmm okay01:11
kestashrmmm01:11
sammycan we fix it without using the sound server ?01:12
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kestasyup using alsa01:12
kestasjust trying to remember how01:12
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sammywhat if I make a link to dev/dsp201:12
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sammyln -s /dev/dsp /dev/dsp2 ?01:12
kestaswell /dev/dsp is a device node that already exists01:12
kestasand thats a messy solution01:12
sammyyeah01:12
kestasand it wouldnt work for alsa01:12
sammyok01:13
sammyhmmm .. how do I force all my applications then , to use that device for the audio ?01:13
kestasyeah damn I did it before.. hrmmm01:13
kestassome alsa option01:13
kestasalsactl or something01:14
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sammy:)01:15
sammycome on.. try harder :)01:15
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thermeogood day01:15
thermeomaybe someone here can help me01:15
thermeoneed some help on mandrake 10 and bind 901:15
sammyI'll go for the messy solution otherwise :)01:15
thermeonamed fails to start01:15
thermeofound onn the net that i need to run in /scripts fixndc01:15
thermeobut i am unable to find a way to install what seems to be caled cpanel01:15
thermeocause i do not have the scripts directory01:15
thermeoif i run named -g -p5301:15
thermeo19-May-2005 12:44:59.731 couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: not found01:16
thermeo19-May-2005 12:44:59.732 couldn't add command channel ::1#953: not found01:16
thermeoi need to find a way to get the scripts directory installed01:16
kestassammy google "changing the default alsa card"01:16
kestas"changing the default card in alsa"01:16
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kestashttp://wiki.debian.net/?ALSA01:17
sammyok thanks01:17
kestas/etc/asound.conf01:17
kestasnp01:17
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XandriXehh i orderd the hoary hedgehog cds in april and they still havent asked me for confirmation01:18
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mauveHi my keyboard settings are weird :) when I press C-A in nautilus the window closes, when I press C-T I get a new window instead of a tag; does anybody have pointer where to look (xorg.conf seems fine my keyboard section only contains "Identifier Generic Keyboard" and "Driver keyboard"); I manage my keyboard settings using gnome...01:19
mauves/tag/tab/;01:19
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mwh_hello, I have just got a sandberg wireless g54 pc card, but Ubuntu hoary does not seem to recognize it01:19
mwh_what might I do?01:19
Burgundaviamauve, if you running breezy, a known issue01:20
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mwh_anyone here who uses a sandberg wireless g54 pc card?01:20
mauveBurgundavia, do you have a URL to a bugreport or something like that?01:20
Burgundaviahttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094201:20
mauveBurgundavia, thanks01:20
UnreA|LloadwinproCD [-r]  [<device>]  what is mean device who write them ?01:21
mwh_are there a ubuntu page which lists wireless cards which are supported by ubuntu?01:21
mauveBurgundavia, damn no solution proposed :/01:21
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peaceyalldo i need the program iptables?01:22
mwh_are there some packages I could install in hoary which would help me get my wireless card going?01:23
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Vixushey, is there an eclipse+CDT binary .deb for debian?01:23
peaceyallmwh_ , if you have a card that isnt supported in linux , there is ndiswrapper01:24
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morrisanyone here got any suggestions before i upgrade my kernel to 2.6.11.10 ? (from: 2.6.10-5-386)01:24
chxhi01:25
mwh_peaceyall: ahh, thanks01:25
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peaceyallnp01:25
freewoodyi all01:25
mwh_peaceyall: also do you know how I can check if the card is supported in linux?01:25
peaceyallmvh_ , ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net01:25
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chxCannot assign requested address: make_sock: could not bind to address 127.0.0.1:80           --  netstat -l -n |grep :80 came back empty handed. What's goin' on?01:25
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peaceyallgo there , they have a section on supported cards with this program01:25
count0nzhow do i reinstall a dist-upgrade ?01:26
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peaceyallisn't dist-uprade a part of apt-get , like apt-get dist-upgrade01:26
count0nznot working :(01:26
peaceyalloh01:26
peaceyall:/01:26
freewoodyHow do I stop Squid from logging me ?01:26
count0nzdid a upgrade, downgrade then upgrand now it won't upgrade01:26
peaceyallwhat happens when you type apt-get dist-upgrade01:26
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freewoodyI want my Squid Transparent Proxy Server to log everybody's actions except my IP Addresses ?01:27
count0nzThe following packages have been kept back:01:27
count0nz  arts aspell-bin qt3-dev-tools x-window-system-core01:27
count0nz0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.01:27
peaceyalland then wat happens01:28
peaceyalldoe sit upgrade?01:28
count0nznope01:28
peaceyalloh01:28
peaceyallweird01:28
count0nzits still stuck in horary01:28
peaceyall:/01:28
count0nzagree01:28
peaceyalltry01:28
peaceyallapt-get update01:28
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peaceyalland then see if apt-get dist-upgrade will work01:28
count0nz--forceinstall works but i don't know what magic name to use to install everythng01:29
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peaceyall:/;01:29
peaceyallthere is nothign called --forceinstall in apt-get01:29
count0nzit thinks there both installed somehow lol01:30
peaceyallwhat are both installed?01:30
peaceyallwhat does it think01:30
peaceyall*01:30
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count0nzits prob a issue with breezy i have fonts working in breezy tho01:31
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Burgundaviacount0nz, those things are being held becuase they cannot be installed01:32
count0nzok thanks :)01:32
Burgundaviacount0nz, arts prob. because of the c++ transition01:32
count0nzTrue :)01:32
Burgundaviaaspell because they are moving to one spelling library01:32
XandriXehh i orderd the hoary hedgehog cds in april and they still havent asked me for confirmation01:32
BurgundaviaX becuase they are moving to modular X01:32
count0nzReverting back to Horary :)01:32
BurgundaviaXandriX, they will come, don't worry01:32
Burgundaviaand qt3 because of the c++ transition01:32
peaceyallgah01:32
count0nz:)01:32
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peaceyalli get checking for lt_dlopen in -lltdl... no01:33
peaceyallconfigure: error:01:33
peaceyall*** Couldn't find ltdl library.  If it is installed in a non-standard01:33
peaceyall*** location, please supply --with-ltdl=DIR on the configure command line,01:33
peaceyall*** where `DIR' is the prefix where ltdl is installed (such as /usr,01:33
peaceyall*** /usr/local, or /usr/pkg).  If that doesn't work, check config.log.  , when im trying to install gift, what package do i need or what do i need to locate?01:33
Burgundaviathe c++ stuff is a guess, but given that most (all?) of kde is c++, those high-level kde stuff is probably not being upraded because of the transition01:33
XandriXBurgundavia, i know that but when lol id like to recieve a confrimation email lol01:33
liablecount0nz: you upgraded, then you want to downgarade? not easy01:33
BurgundaviaXandriX, shipit is not amazon01:34
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Burgundaviacount0nz, just wait, the issues will sort themselves out01:34
peaceyallliable , he upgraded then downgraded then wanted to pgrade again :P01:34
XandriXBurgundavia, people tol me id recieve an email01:34
BurgundaviaXandriX, I think you will, when they are ready to ship01:34
XandriXk01:35
count0nzyes lol i will i wanted to work on some packages for breezy01:35
pdk001hi01:35
pdk001what are you guys doing now?01:35
peaceyallnothing01:35
pdk001okie01:35
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liablecount0nz: tried installing the prob packges by themselves?01:37
Burgundavialiable, they remove lots of stuff01:38
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Burgundavialiable, because most of the deps for the new packages are not there yet01:38
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count0nzyes i have it working but going to stay with hoary for a bit and relase packages for hoary01:39
liablecount0nz: tried apt-pinning?01:39
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count0nznot yet.... its not even updateing libc so i will revert it to hoary for now01:40
liablecount0nz: so, what are you on now?01:40
count0nzhoary01:40
Burgundaviathe other way to do it is not to shut down your machine, like I am doing01:41
Burgundaviaas I know X will not come up01:41
count0nzi fixed the issues with X01:41
bigfoothi all. How do I run/activate/execute a Perl script?01:41
liablelibc6 is something that *will* completely break your machine01:41
kestasperl perl.pl01:41
count0nz:) i am going to force it back before i reboot01:42
count0nz)01:42
bigfootkestas, i downloaded a script (http://deluks.de/programs/opera2html-1.0.1) and it's now on my desktop. Do i type "perl perl.pl" in terminal?01:43
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XandriXbbl01:44
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Shuflare :D01:45
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UnreA|LHow umount cdrom ?01:46
UnreA|LMy cdrom doesnt open and i can remove cd from it01:46
UnreA|Li try with gnome but doesnt wokr01:47
UnreA|L?01:47
ShuflaUnreA|L: look in dmesg, try eject from terminal, try sudo umount /cdrom01:47
UnreA|LOkey01:47
pdk001sudo umount /media/cdrom001:47
UnreA|LOk01:47
pdk001in other directory01:47
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UnreA|Lme write01:48
UnreA|Ldevice is busy01:48
pdk001type "cd /"01:48
pdk001u are in mounted dir01:48
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pdk001move other directory01:49
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pdk001and type "sudo umount /media/cdrom0"01:49
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UnreA|Lme write /media/cdrom0 device is busy01:50
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UnreA|L;/01:50
pdk001hey01:50
pdk001type " cd /" before do type " sudo umount /media/cdrom0"01:51
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pdk001you are now in cdrom directory01:51
pdk001if u are in there, it says" device is busy"01:52
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kestaspdk001: he may be using it with another process too01:52
UnreA|Li try with it01:52
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UnreA|Lbot it doesnt work01:52
kestasUnreA|L: lsof | grep cdrom01:53
kestaswhat does that output?01:53
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hybrid_sleep'01:53
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CyberBl00Dhi01:55
gnubieall01:55
CyberBl00DI have a problem with GRUB, somebody can help me?01:55
pdk001hi01:56
gnubieboys01:56
pdk001multiple booting?01:56
CyberBl00Dyep01:56
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CyberBl00Di can't boot window$01:57
pdk001did u install windows later than linux?01:57
firashi all01:57
CyberBl00Ddebian rulez, but i need to use some windows appz and wine its too slow01:58
CyberBl00Dyes01:58
CyberBl00Dits installed on /dev/hdb01:58
pdk001hold on01:58
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prediusv2rty a "sudo update-grub"01:58
pdk001http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30574&highlight=multy01:58
Tron|BoRGheello!!01:59
pdk001go check here01:59
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firasanyone know how to getting system-wide aliases working using sudo ?01:59
CyberBl00Dok01:59
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kestasanyone want a game of freeciv?01:59
Tron|BoRGme!!01:59
firasHi there Tron01:59
Tron|BoRGhi firas01:59
kestaspubserver.freeciv.org:556201:59
gnubieno thanks01:59
kestasits the place to be01:59
kestasonly me atm tho01:59
CyberBl00Dsudo is a Ubuntu command?01:59
Tron|BoRGoh no02:00
Tron|BoRGi cant find freeciv02:00
pdk001sudo is to be root02:00
firasCyberBl00D:  no it's a gnu utility or program02:00
CyberBl00Dhahaha02:00
CyberBl00Dsorry02:00
CyberBl00Dn.n02:00
firasCyberBl00D:  you can find it in any Linux distro02:00
Tron|BoRGkestas: where is it :D?02:00
prediusv2I think it's on OSX too.02:01
kestasTron|BoRG: this is freeciv 2 so youll have to compile from source im afraid02:01
kestasbut its worth it02:01
Tron|BoRGyikes02:01
Tron|BoRGi've never done that02:01
firasCyberBl00D:  it's just that in Ubuntu it's used to almost completely replace the usage of the root account02:01
pdk001i have to go to dinner02:01
pdk001later and have a good time all02:01
CyberBl00Dthank guyz!!!! ^_^ u Rulez :P02:01
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firasCyberBl00D:  more info here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:02
CyberBl00Di didn't know that, i just tried a little Ubuntu, but i think it's great for home pcs02:02
peaceyallgah02:02
peaceyallim getting ths on installing gift02:03
peaceyallchecking for lt_dlopen in -lltdl... no02:03
peaceyallconfigure: error:02:03
peaceyall*** Couldn't find ltdl library.02:03
peaceyallwhat package do i need to install02:03
firasCyberBl00D:  i've been bouncing around different distros for the past few years and especially the past 2 months or so, I love Ubuntu the most so far02:03
CyberBl00Dhahaa02:03
firasCyberBl00D:  it's got the right combination of everything as far as I've seen02:03
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CyberBl00Dyep02:03
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Tron|BoRGI like it too. But firefox is the only downside i can see02:04
Tron|BoRGit takes ages to do things !02:04
firasTron|BoRG:  why's that ?02:04
Tron|BoRGfirefox has been slow on ubuntu for me02:04
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firasTron|BoRG:  then check this out http://ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefasterfirefox02:05
firasTron|BoRG:  u should see a noticeable difference02:05
Tron|BoRGgreat02:05
CyberBl00Dsee ya guyz, i'm going to try that f$$"! piece of $"$"! ( i mean windows ) lol02:05
Tron|BoRGlol02:05
CyberBl00Dthank U02:05
Tron|BoRGcya !02:05
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firasCyberBl00D:  have fun, don't kill ur PC though !02:06
undefiendwhen I do apt-get update i get the following error: W: GPG error: http://ae.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D5B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>   what does it mean?02:06
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firasAnyone know why the aliases I've defined in /etc/bash.bashrc work for all users on my system but don't work when using sudo ?02:06
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kestasyeah I get that too, it doesnt stop it updating it just stops it from verifying updates02:07
Tron|BoRGwow !!02:07
Tron|BoRGmuch faster02:07
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peaceyallreallt02:07
firasundefiend:  haven't figured that one out myself yet, usually doing another apt-get update fixes things, sometimes it doesn't :S02:07
Tron|BoRGfiras: thanks !!!!02:07
peaceyallgah im gonna try it02:07
rudi123how can i disable the brown background?02:08
bigfootHi all: A general uninstallation question: I'm going to be installing a program called Bookmark Bridge. The install file within the downloaded tar.gz file contains installation instructions ($> ./configure02:08
bigfoot$> make02:08
bigfoot$> make install). But it doesn't say how to uninstall. I plan on uninstalling it right away. How do I go about doing that?02:08
firasTron|BoRG:  anytime :)02:08
Burgundaviarudi123, for the desktop, just right click on it02:08
firasbigfoot:  sometimes u'll find an uninstall script with the package itself02:08
firasbigfoot:  otherwise u'll have to uninstall manually02:08
firasbigfoot:  usually the binaries are in /usr/bin so u just have to remove them from there02:09
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rudi123Burgundavia, i have a picture on my desk. but at startup comes the brown desktop02:09
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undefiendkestas: but i'm doing it in order to install flashplayer for firefox, and it also gives me an error after apt-get flashplayer-install: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ae.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ae.archive.ubuntu_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:09
Burgundaviarudi123, before it loads the desktop02:10
Burgundavia?02:10
firasrudi123:  go to System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup02:10
kestasapt-get update02:10
undefiendkestas: that's what I do but still does it :) dunno.. (i'm new to linux btw)02:10
Burgundaviarudi123, if you mean before you login, then see firas' advice02:10
rudi123yes02:10
kestasbigfoot: try ./configure --prefix=~/someprogram02:11
rudi123no02:11
Burgundaviaundefiend, that is a known bug. I may be caused by a time issue02:11
rudi123not before i login02:11
rudi123later02:11
kestasthat way when youre done you can just delete ~someprogram02:11
undefiendBurgundavia: ah, ok02:11
Burgundaviarudi123, change the desktop colours02:11
bigfootfiras, i checked the contents of the not-yet-installed tar.gz file. I can't seem to find the "uninstall file. "are you saying that when a tar.gz installs stuff, it only places stuff in the /usr/bin directory? According to the install file:"By default, `make install' will install the package's files in02:11
bigfoot`/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/man', etc.  You can specify an02:11
bigfootinstallation prefix other than `/usr/local' by giving `configure' the02:11
bigfootoption `--prefix=PATH'."02:11
Burgundaviarudi123, on the same page as the desktop background02:11
Burgundaviabigfoot, please don't flood here02:11
rudi123thats not what i mean02:12
bigfootBurgundavia, sorry.02:12
Burgundaviarudi123, sorry, I am lost then02:12
queuetueIs there a way to set up the xmms browser plugin to record?02:12
firasbigfoot:  that's what kestas suggested (better solution)02:12
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bigfootkestas, how do i do what you say exactly?02:12
rudi123i wont start with the same picture on desktop02:12
kestasbigfoot: try ./configure --prefix=~/someprogram02:12
firasbigfoot:  use the "./configure --prefix /opt/myprogram" that way it'll install everything into that folder02:12
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firasbigfoot:  then u can just delete that folder when u wanna uninstall02:13
Burgundaviarudi123, oh, you set the background picture and it doens't keep it?02:13
Burgundaviarudi123, upon restart?02:13
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kestasfiras's way will work too, but then you have to use root privs, which means it may install anywhere if you dont check the Makefile02:13
rudi123Burgundavia, u speek german?02:13
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bigfootkestas, firas, you mean i just can't extract the tar.gz file into, let's say, my desktop directory, in order to have it working?02:13
kestasdoing it my way means you know everythingll be installed where you say, and if it tries to install elsewhere therell be an error02:13
Burgundaviarudi123, nope02:13
kestasbigfoot: not if you have to compile it no02:13
CybeRBl00Dit didn't work02:14
CybeRBl00DO.o02:14
Burgundaviarudi123, you might want to try #ubuntu-de02:14
rudi123ok i try this02:14
rudi123Burgundavia, thnx02:14
firasbigfoot:  no it was just a suggestion if u wanted to have the program available system wide02:14
firasbigfoot:  you could just do a "./02:14
CybeRBl00Dsomeone can help me?, GRUB is gettin on my nerves02:14
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firasbigfoot:  " "./configure --prefix /home/username/myprogram"02:15
Tron|BoRGfiras: what C compiler do I need to create a 'Makefile'02:15
bigfootkestas, firas, availabilty (whether system wide or not) does not matter to me. I just want to know that when it's time to uninstall it, I can undo/remove everything that the installer installed.02:15
firasTron|BoRG:  gcc and automake i guess02:15
kestasbigfoot: not without a major pain in the ass you wont be able to02:16
Tron|BoRGhm ok02:16
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CybeRBl00D:S02:16
kestasbigfoot: doing it our way its a matter of rm -rf ~/someprogram02:16
kestasbigfoot: doing it normally youll have to trawl though the Makefile and clean everything up yourself02:16
mwh_Hello, im looking for a wireless pcmcia nic which works out of the box on Ubuntu Hoary, ie no ndiswrapper or other wird configuration thing02:16
mwh_anyone know such a card?02:16
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firasbigfoot:  then that last option using the prefix option and installing it in your home directory (as kestas suggested) s your best choice02:17
Burgundaviamwh_, I have a dlink g650+02:17
CybeRBl00Dsomeone help me , i can make that Piece of paidOS-s.. run with GRUB :(02:17
Burgundaviamwh_, works ootb02:17
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Tron|BoRGDoes someone know how to disable the minimise animation on GNOME?02:17
mwh_Burgundavia: thanks02:17
CybeRBl00Di tried update-grub, but it didn't even touch menu.lst :S02:17
mwh_anybody else got a card which just works02:17
firasbigfoot:  to run the program u'll have to type in the full path name though /home/username/myprogram/bin/program or ~/myprogram/bin/program02:18
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firasbigfoot:  or you can add ~/myprogram/bin to your $PATH variable02:18
Encryptedmwh_, http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php for a list of good cards02:18
firasCybeRBl00D:  try "grub-install /dev/hda" or whatever your hard disk is that your booting from02:19
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dcravenTron|BoRG: gconf-editor, /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources.02:19
mwh_Burgundavia:  is it this card: D-Link AirPlus Xtreme G+ DWL-G650+02:19
CybeRBl00Dhmmm ok02:19
dcravenTron|BoRG: But it also does some other things as well.02:19
Tron|BoRGooh02:19
mwh_Encrypted: thanks, these cards works for Ubuntu Hoary?02:19
Tron|BoRGi'll try it out02:19
Tron|BoRGthanks dc02:19
dcravenTron|BoRG: np02:20
Funraiserhello all, adesklets is an interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window system, will it work on Ubuntu?02:20
firasdcraven:  thanks, been wonderin' about that myself02:20
Encryptedmwh_, should theyre all based on pretty much the same chipset which is well supported02:20
Burgundaviamwh_, yes, think so02:20
tronddFunraiser: yes, I've used it in gnome 2.8.02:21
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Encryptedmwh_, still good too dbl check them with a google search before buying tho02:21
Funraisertrondd, thanks!02:21
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dcravenfiras: hehe.. No prob. It does other things like wireframe windows on move etc too.02:21
mwh_its just that I asked some Linux guys yesterday and bought a card, but it did not work :(02:21
Tron|BoRGdcraven: Do I write that in terminal?02:21
Encryptedmwh_, which card did you get ?02:21
j2dopeis there any html editor, like dreamweaver, or frontpage for ubuntu, other than mozilla composer?02:22
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dcravenTron|BoRG: Or go Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor in the menu.02:22
Tron|BoRGthanks, i've got it :D02:22
firasdcraven:  yeah read the description. i'll try it out though02:22
liablej2dope: try nvu, its easy as hell, and seems good02:22
mwh_Encrypted: a Sandberg Wireless G54 PC Card02:23
bigfootokay, i have the terminal open.  I typed "./configure" but it said "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory02:23
bigfoot"02:23
factorxis there any equalizer function for amarok?02:24
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liablethen there is no configure script02:24
Tron|BoRGIs there hardware acceleration in ubuntu?02:24
Tron|BoRGfor graphics :P02:24
liablebigfoot: what you compiling?02:24
firasdcraven:  whoa that's weird, i tried enabling that option, now if i double click a windown I get grids all over my screen! i think i'll avoid it for it now :)02:24
Tron|BoRGfiras: Yeah, i get that too02:24
Tron|BoRGhehe02:24
firasbigfoot:  did you unpack the tar.gz ?02:24
dcravenbigfoot: Are you in the source root dir? When you "ls" is there a file called configure?02:25
j2dopeliable: thanks02:25
liablebigfoot: you did this in the source directory?02:25
liablej2dope: np :)02:25
dcravenfiras: Huh? That option is anything but new :)02:25
j2dopeliable: where can i find 'nvu'.. it doesn't seem to be in my repositories02:25
firasbigfoot:  tar -zxvf  filename.tar.gz -C destination02:25
bigfootliable, oh, am I compiling? Well, i got a program called bookmarkbridge (in tar.gz format). it will convert my opera bookmarks to a format that can be read by FF. My other alternative is to get a perl script and run it. Would that be easier?02:25
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bigfootfiras, yes, the tar.gz is unpacked. That's as far as my 1week old Windows-to-Ubuntu newbie brain will take me02:26
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Tron|BoRGwow apt-get is great02:26
firasdcraven:  i'm new to Gnome, I was a devoted KDE user, came into Ubuntu with Kubuntu actually and now I'm trying to see if Gnome's for me02:26
CyberBl00Dit didn't work >.<02:27
Tron|BoRGgnome's for me ;)02:27
liablej2dope: try apt-cache search nvu02:27
dcravenfiras: Well good luck. I'm gonna click reduced_resources to see what you guys are talkin' about.02:27
firasbigfoot:  then go to the directory that you unpacked "cd operabookmarks"02:27
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mwh_Hello, im looking for a wireless pcmcia nic which works out of the box on Ubuntu Hoary, ie no ndiswrapper or other wird configuration thing02:27
j2dopeliable: no results =( i got all the universal repositories added and such. im on Hoary02:28
liablebigfoot: so there is no readme?02:28
firasbigfoot:  and try "./configure --prefix=/home/username/operabookmarks"02:28
CyberBl00Ddo you guyz know if LILO works fine with windows?02:28
bigfootfiras, dcraven, okay, i'll go to the directory.02:28
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dcravenmwh_: Didn't you already get some cards?02:28
factorxCyberBl00D: it does02:28
liablebigfoot: what about just make?02:28
firasbigfoot:  where username is your username (just in case :)02:28
henriquemaiaHello, just a small question: today, when I rebooted my machine, I went with no sound. Runned alsamixer and found that some parameters were muted (I did not do anything).02:28
CyberBl00Dbetter than GRUB ?? :P02:28
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henriquemaiaNow my mic doesnt have mute.02:28
liablechocoIate: how'd you go?02:28
henriquemaiaDoes anyone have an idea how to solve this?02:28
factorxCyberBl00D: no, because grub is better in everything :P02:29
bigfootfiras, okay, i'm in the directory with the configure file.02:29
mwh_dcraven: one card02:29
CyberBl00Dhahahahaha02:29
henriquemaiaThis is the second time it happens, totally random.02:29
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mwh_dcraven: and a list which is pretty hard to pinpoint a card to02:29
CyberBl00Dwell henrique02:29
CyberBl00Dthen02:29
CyberBl00Dhelp me :P02:29
CyberBl00Di can't run windows with grub02:29
mwh_dcraven: I would like som more .. ie someone who has a card working on Ubuntu Hoary02:29
CyberBl00D-i know windows suX-02:29
CyberBl00Dhaha02:29
firasbigfoot:  now run ./configure --prefix=/home/username/operabookmarks02:29
henriquemaiaI do not have windows for 4 years now.02:30
firasbigfoot:  or even better  ./configure --prefix=~/operabookmarks02:30
CyberBl00Dhm02:30
henriquemaiaCan't help. Never used dual boot with windows.02:30
dcravenmwh_: Look for any card that has the same chipset as the one you have. Then you'll probably have many.02:30
CyberBl00D:(02:30
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liablej2dope: google ubuntu and nvu, heaps of hits02:30
j2dopeyarr i am now thanks02:30
chocoIateliable ; kestas : i managed to build the driver for sm56 --> www.sm56.tk in ubuntu successfully, i managed to install and i got the following output --->> : http://pastebot.nd.edu/907 ; however typing insmod sm56 as per the instructions in pastebot well, nothing happens just an error that the file does not exist :S02:31
firasbigfoot:  any luck yet ?02:31
j2dopeliable: just for simplicity sake, do u know which repository its in? im so bad at linux02:31
CyberBl00Dwell i'm gonna try using LILO on a disk then02:31
tronddCyberBl00D: take a look at /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst02:31
bigfootfiras, the operabookmark file is not called operabookmarks. It's called bookmark.html02:31
CyberBl00Dok i'll check it out02:31
mwh_r supports high-speed wireless netw02:32
bigfootIt's an html file, but not in a format that firefox can read.02:32
tronddCyberBl00D: there you should find out how to bring windows back to life... Don't waste time on lilo...02:32
bigfootwould it be easier if I just run a perl script?02:32
bigfootI got the perl script downloaded, but I can't seem to suceed.02:32
mwh_Burgundavia:  are you sure DWL-G650+ do not need ndiswrapper?02:32
firasbigfoot:  probably02:32
liablej2dope: sorry dude, I use debian (yes I prolly shouldnt be here) and its in the sarge repos, so surprised, its not in ubuntu, as its usually more up to date :(02:32
firasbigfoot:  u have to type perl then the name of the perl script u donwloaded02:33
CyberBl00Dtrondd: windows is already dead lol02:33
j2dopeliable: thanks for your help. i found a FAQ to help me install it. fingers crossed it works. i HATE switching back to windows for html editing02:33
mwh_Burgundavia:  http://www.wearablelinux.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1 this page seems to say it does02:33
firasbigfoot:  obviously u have to have perl installed before that, just do an apt-get install perl02:34
CyberBl00Dthe problem is02:34
liablej2dope: if you get it installed, you will like it :)02:34
j2dopeyesm. the screenshots look nice02:34
Tron|BoRGmy first compile, make, install. I feel blessed02:34
CyberBl00Di've got windows installed on my slave disk02:34
liablechocoIate: modprobe sm5602:34
Tron|BoRGuh oh... errors02:34
liablechocoIate: sudo ^^02:35
firasj2dope:  http://ubuntuguide.org/#nvu02:35
Tron|BoRGyay02:35
Tron|BoRGsudo helps02:35
Burgundaviamwh_, the best way would be to test it02:35
firasTron|BoRG:  hehe, u spoke too soon !02:35
Burgundaviamwh_, find a friend who has a card and test theirs in Ubuntu, then if it works, buy that one02:35
tronddCyberBl00D: do you want to boot windows, or just fetch the data?02:36
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CyberBl00Di know i have to put hda1 on GRUB, and use "map" but it just crash, and shows Error N 1302:36
bigfootfiras, i think i have perl installed already. I ran "perl opera2html" but it did nothing. In the perl script it says "# Example of usage:02:36
Tron|BoRGfiras: yea... *sob*02:36
bigfoot# cat Bookmarks | opera2html > bookmarks.html" ....02:36
CyberBl00Di want to boot it02:36
Scorpinfany1 know how to install TC, i cant find an installation guide02:36
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SeveasTC?02:36
j2dopefiras: thankye02:36
peaceyallgah can any one help me? here they tell me go to about:config ( http://ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefasterfirefox ) but when i go to about:config in firefox, on taht page all i see is : XML Parsing Error: not well-formed02:36
peaceyallLocation: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/global/config.xul02:36
peaceyallLine Number 1, Column 4:out(function() { if (gFindMode != FIND_NORMAL) closeFindBar(); }, gQuickFindTimeoutLength);02:36
peaceyall---^02:36
peaceyallweird :/02:37
chocoIateliable : what is modprobe sm56 :o02:37
firasj2dope:  ur welcome :)02:37
chocoIateliable : what is sudo modprobe sm56 :o02:37
chocoIateeven :P02:37
ScorpinfTC:Elite02:37
firasbigfoot:  u got a link to this script ?02:37
tronddHmm think error 13 mean that there is something wrong in menu.lst02:37
dcravenbigfoot: So did you run it like in that example?02:37
SeveaschocoIate, that loads the sm56 module into the kernel02:37
liablechocoIate: type 'sudo modprobe sm56'02:37
CyberBl00Dit says02:37
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chocoIatethats it :o02:37
chocoIateok, thanks :P02:37
bigfootfiras, the script itself is at http://deluks.de/programs/opera2html-1.0.102:37
peaceyallcan anybody help?02:38
firasbigfoot:  i'm assuming "Bookmarks" here is ur opera bookmars file, and opera2html is your perl script02:38
liablechocoIate: same as insmod, you use a different linux before?02:38
CyberBl00Derror 13. No valid Executable, or something like that02:38
k4rp0rdoes anyone havew idea how to get wolfenstein enemy territory working on linux02:38
Linforcersoooo ... am I the only one who would have preferred to see OponOffice fork02:38
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liablepeaceyall: no :)02:38
peaceyall:/02:38
firasbigfoot:  so copy ur opera "Bookmarks" file into ur homedirectory, and copy ur perl script there as well02:38
chocoIatenope, first time linux user, i guess the guy who wrote the driver is using a different linux version thus that command which never works under ubuntu02:38
dcravenk4rp0r: I play it and etf all the time!02:38
tronddk4rp0r: just install it... I've played it in gentoo.02:38
bigfootfiras, yes, opera2html is the perl script. Bookmarks is the Opera file.02:38
chocoIatethanks a lot. I'll try this and come back if i'm still having problem :P02:39
firasbigfoot:  then just run the command as they said02:39
Seveasgrub error 13 means that you spelt the name of the kernel werong02:39
Seveaswrong*02:39
Scorpinfk4rp0r: im also working on it, i have installed wolf-et but want to install the mod ET:elite but dont now how02:39
liablepeaceyall: in the browser url bit, clear it, and type 'about:config'02:39
tronddCyberBl00D: can you boot ubuntu on the machine?02:39
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peaceyallliable , im not an idiot thats what i did :P02:39
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liablepeaceyall: well fuck you :)02:39
peaceyallbut i dont see stuff to configure like on windows firefox02:40
peaceyalllol02:40
bigfootfiras, just to let you know, I exported my Opera bookmarks into 2 types (one is html type. The other is opera file type).02:40
peaceyallall i see is XML Parsing Error: not well-formed02:40
peaceyallLocation: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/global/config.xul02:40
peaceyallLine Number 1, Column 4:out(function() { if (gFindMode != FIND_NORMAL) closeFindBar(); }, gQuickFindTimeoutLength);02:40
peaceyall---^02:40
CyberBl00Di don't have ubuntu installed nor the live CD, i just give it to a friend that wanted to test it02:40
firasbigfoot:  that should create a bookmarks.html file fo ru02:40
k4rp0ryeah, but when iwe downloaded the linux version of et and double clic it, it wont launc02:40
bigfootI ran the command just as it said, and terminal said, "bash: opera2html: command not found02:40
bigfoot"02:40
Tron|BoRGthis is exciting stuff02:40
Tron|BoRGnearly ready for freeciv !02:40
Seveasbigfoot, chmod +x opera2html first02:40
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CyberBl00DSeveas: i know what error 13, but window$ doesn't have kernel defined, like Linux02:41
Seveaspeaceyall, try reinstalling firefox with apt-get install --reinstall firefox02:41
firasbigfoot:  do u have opera2html in the same directory ur in ? make sure it's executable02:41
bigfootSeveas, i did as you said, and then re-tried, but to no avail...02:41
liablepeaceyall: you havent fucked with anything in firefox? only asking, cause I have to, to get my thinkpad keys working02:41
SeveasCyberBl00D, then you are trying to start windows the wrong way02:41
peaceyallok02:41
firasbigfoot:  chmod +x opera2html02:41
peaceyallliable02:41
tronddCyberBl00D: then you have to repeat what your problem is...02:41
CyberBl00DO.O02:41
peaceyalli have fucked with a lot of stuff02:41
peaceyall:/02:41
liablepeaceyall:02:41
CyberBl00Dok02:41
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peaceyalli tried reinstalling it from getting it from the web02:42
SeveasCyberBl00D, can you paste your sources.list on ubuntu.pastebin.com please02:42
liablepeaceyall: in firefox?02:42
Seveasehm02:42
CyberBl00D:S sorry, english is not my native language, maybe i just say it wrong :P02:42
Seveasi mean your menu.lst02:42
CyberBl00Dok02:42
peaceyalljust a ac ill try reinstalling it form apt-get02:42
bigfootfiras,  opera2html is in the same directory I'm in. I don't know if it's executable. According to the file properties, it's a "Perl Script"02:42
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dcravenk4rp0r: Open a terminal, change to the directory you downloaded the file too (probably the Desktop, so type "cd ~/Desktop"), then type "chmod 755 myfile" where myfile is the name of the ET install file, then type "sudo ./myfile".02:43
Seveasbigfoot, cat Bookmarks | perl opera2html > Bookmarks.html should work if the script is not executable02:43
bigfootfiras, "chmod +x opera2html" is exactly what i entered.,02:43
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mwh_Burgundavia: thanks for the advice02:43
Burgundaviamwh_, np02:44
firasbigfoot:  it should be executable now02:44
Burgundaviamwh_, wireless is a beast02:44
Seveasindeed02:44
mwh_Burgundavia: it sure is02:44
firasbigfoot:  can u try typing "perl -v"02:44
firasbigfoot:  just to make sure perl is installed02:44
mwh_it would be nice if ubuntu could team up with some dealers of hardware, so I could go to ubuntu's website and click wireless cards .. and know that they will work on linux02:44
Seveasmwh_, linux-wireless.org (oslt) has that :)02:45
new2gentoomwh_, there are a large number of cards that work02:45
Burgundaviamwh_, they are already going to02:45
liablemwh_: if it works in linux at all, it'll work in ubuntu02:45
firasbigfoot:  the link you gave me ... the file is named opera2html-1.0.1 did u rename it to opera2html ?02:45
trygvebwbreezy has got gnome 2.11 :D02:45
bigfootfiras, i did as you said and got a response. It's installed, it looks like.02:46
trygvebwnow02:46
bigfootfiras, yes, i did.02:46
bigfootto keep it simple.02:46
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liablemwh_: what card?02:46
CyberBl00DSeveas: here it is my menu.lst http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28650702:47
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CyberBl00Dplz if you help me i'm gonna worship you everyday :P02:47
CyberBl00D.02:49
firasbigfoot:  so what do u get when u type02:49
firasbigfoot:  cat Bookmarks | opera2html > bookmarks.html02:49
firas?02:49
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SeveasCyberBl00D, try root(hd1)02:49
CyberBl00Dok i'll try02:50
Seveasor actually:02:50
tronddCyberBl00D: rootnoverify(hd0,0)02:50
Seveasroot (hd1,4)02:50
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Seveastrondd, windows is in hdb5 according to the comment in menu.lst02:50
bigfootfiras, i get this:  bash: opera2html: command not found02:51
CyberBl00Dhmm02:51
tronddhmmm, your right , nevermind me...02:51
CyberBl00Dno02:51
CyberBl00Dthat comment is wrong02:51
Seveasah ok02:51
Seveaswhere is it?02:51
CyberBl00Dhdb102:51
Seveasah, then root(hd1,0)02:51
tronddthen (hd1,0) ?02:51
CyberBl00Dyep02:51
CyberBl00Di'll try02:51
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SeveasCyberBl00D, if it doesn't work, paste the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb on ubuntu.pastebin.com02:53
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CyberBl00Dok02:53
CyberBl00D:D02:53
firasbigfoot:  sorry my mistake, type: cat Bookmarks | ./opera2html > bookmarks.html02:53
Tron|BoRGis there an apt-get install command for a program called 'glib'??02:54
guupstahow can I set AGP transfer mode to 4X instead of the default 8X? I'm using xorg02:54
SeveasTron|BoRG, glib is a library02:54
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Seveasit IS installed by default02:54
Tron|BoRGoh02:54
raphaHi all!02:54
Tron|BoRG'configure: error: Library requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.6.0'02:54
raphaWhat is the trick to download the .jigdo or .torrent for Breezy Badger?02:55
Tron|BoRGis it just outdated?02:55
dcravenrapha: Read the topic in this chan.02:55
Seveasif you are trying to compile something and it complains that glib is missing: libglib-SOMETHING-dev02:55
Seveassearch for that in synaptic02:55
Seveasrapha, DO NOT use breezy02:55
Tron|BoRGokay :D02:55
raphadcraven: If that's for real, then why are the files offered for downlkoad?02:55
firasguupsta:  try adding  Option "AGPMode" "4"02:55
bigfootfiras, did as you said, but the new bookmarks.html file is blank02:55
Seveasrapha, because they're developing it02:55
crimsun_rapha: got your message.02:55
dcravenrapha: I thought you couldn't get them.02:55
firasguupsta:  under Section "Device"02:55
raphaSeveas: I didn't mean to _use_ it, I wanted to _try_it_out_02:55
firasguupsta:  for ur video card02:56
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guupstafiras: ok. thanks a lot02:56
Seveasrapha, there is only a colony cd for breezy now02:56
Seveasno jigdos02:56
Seveasjigdos will only be made for final versions02:56
raphacrimsun_: Cool :-) ... any further ideas? (It works with artsd btw, but is lagging pretty badly)02:56
Tron|BoRGwhat is the 'SOMETHING'?02:56
Tron|BoRGhehe02:56
raphasearcher`: jigdo is a download tool.02:56
SeveasTron|BoRG, you need libglib2.0-dev02:56
Tron|BoRGok, thanks :D02:56
Seveaswhat are you trying to compile?02:56
Tron|BoRGuhm02:57
Tron|BoRGGTK+02:57
raphaSo, does the topic say "don't USE Colony-1" or does it say "don't even try to DOWNLOAD Colony-1"?02:57
SeveasGTK+ is downloadable via apt..02:57
Tron|BoRGoh02:57
Tron|BoRGhehe02:57
Seveasand even installed by default...02:57
Seveasrapha, colony one is a bit more usable02:57
Tron|BoRGsudo apt-get install gtk+?02:57
Seveasupgrading to current breeay is not recommended, since it is highly unstable due to major transitions02:58
SeveasTron|BoRG, what do you need that for?02:58
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Seveasbecause it also is a library :)02:58
Tron|BoRGtrying to install freeciv02:58
raphaSeveas: : Then let me rephrase: what is the trick with downloading Colony-One via Jigdo or Torrent?02:58
dcravenTron|BoRG: There is a good chance you already have it if you are in GNOME.02:58
CybeRBl00D>.< i hate Wintendo02:58
firasbigfoot:  check the Bookmarks file that u have, does it have anything in it? Could be that u copied the wrong one02:58
Seveasand gtk+ is a weird namem since both gtk2 and gtk1.2 are gtk+02:58
Tron|BoRGoh02:58
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chocoIateliable : i get error similar to -->> "FATAL : module sm56 does not exist"02:58
tronddTron|BoRG: sudo apt-get install freeciv ...02:58
CybeRBl00Dit' didn't work02:59
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SeveasCybeRBl00D, why not?02:59
CybeRBl00Di get another error, it says that de device doesn't exists02:59
chocoIatewhere am i supposed to run that command, and where is the module supposed to be :o02:59
CybeRBl00Dand also says, unknown filesystem02:59
Seveaswhen you download freeciv or when you use it?02:59
bigfootfiras, checked the source bookmarks file. Yes it's got all the urls (plus descriptions, etc) in it.02:59
dcravenSeveas: The term gtk+ refers to gtk, pango, glib, atk, etc etc02:59
Tron|BoRG'*** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found02:59
Tron|BoRG'02:59
SeveasCybeRBl00D, then do the fdisk -l trick :)03:00
CybeRBl00Dokey dokey :P03:00
SeveasTron|BoRG, manually installing freeciv will not help either03:00
Tron|BoRGoh03:00
CybeRBl00Dhow :P03:00
raphaAh okay03:00
CybeRBl00Di forgot XD03:00
SeveasCybeRBl00D, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb03:00
raphaSeveas: apparently, the `jigdo' application does not yet work; you have to use `jigdo-lite' from the `jigdo-file' package03:01
raphacrimsun_: You still around?03:01
Tron|BoRGSeveas: is there a command to start it if it doesnt show in the games menu?03:01
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CybeRBl00Dok03:01
crimsun_rapha: yes, but I'm leaving shortly (work, it's 8:01 AM)03:01
toranhey guys, how do I stop update-menu from running after I install packages?03:01
SeveasTron|BoRG, just type freeciv-gtk at the command line i guess03:01
onekillis there a way to do irc chat via terminal03:02
crimsun_toran: you'd have to edit the package's postinst script03:02
Seveasonekill, yes03:02
Tron|BoRGbash: freeciv-gtk: command not found03:02
dcravenonekill: irssi03:02
Seveasyou can use irssi03:02
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trygvebwor BitchX03:02
trygvebwfor irc03:02
onekilli have another box that x does not start and need help with it03:02
toranthere is no way to turn it off for all packages?03:02
SeabookHello. I ned some clarification about uninstalling a kernel version.03:02
SeveasTron|BoRG, run updatedb and do slocate freeciv :)03:02
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CybeRBl00Dhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/28651703:03
crimsun_toran: aside from force-removing the menu* packages, ...03:03
toran=(03:03
CybeRBl00Dit's just a primary partition03:03
raphacrimsun_: Okay, see you another time then, have a good work day! :)03:03
CybeRBl00Dbut03:03
torani am SICK AND TIRED of having my custom fluxbox menu overwrittenn03:03
CybeRBl00Dit's not positioned at the beginning of the disk03:03
crimsun_rapha: right, I'll be online again in about 9 hours.03:04
Tron|BoRGSeveas: I dont think it liked: sudo updatedb, hehe03:04
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SeveasCybeRBl00D, hmm, maybe i am confused about mapping, try root (hd0,0)03:04
teknoprepSeveas whats up man03:04
CybeRBl00Dwell03:04
CybeRBl00Dwhen03:04
SeveasTron|BoRG, that takes a long time :)03:04
teknoprepSeveas you get that to work bro03:04
Seveasteknoprep, yes, it works03:04
Seveasbut no transparency :S03:04
chocoIateliable : where is the module supposed to be :o03:04
CybeRBl00Di try root(0) i get the Error N 13 :S03:05
teknoprepSeveas lol03:05
firasbigfoot:  if u don't anything private in ur bookmarks file can u send it to me03:05
Seveasroot(hd0) is incorrect03:05
Seveastry (hd0,0)03:05
teknoprepSeveas yeah i dun no how to get dat to work03:05
liablechocoIate: ok, how did you compile it?03:05
teknopreplol03:05
CybeRBl00Dhmmm03:05
chocoIateliable : am i supposed to provide a path or something to modprobe03:05
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CybeRBl00Dok03:05
teknoprepSeveas i will try today03:05
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liablechocoIate: what did you do to the make file?03:05
chocoIatei compiled it and it compiled fine with a success message03:05
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liablechocoIate: no, modprobe should find it03:05
omV0can someone recommend a good file browser? i currently use xffm and i really don't like it..03:06
chocoIatewell, i ran the make install in the directory03:06
Seveasliable, only if it is installed in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/03:06
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tronddomV0: mc, nautilus...03:06
liableSeveas: well, yes, it should be there03:06
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chocoIateSeveas : so should i check in that directory first if its actually available there :O03:06
omV0trondd- is there a way to get nautilus to have a folder tree?03:07
chocoIateand if its not there, then what :S03:07
teknoprepSeveas, you are popular for helping ppl it seems lol03:07
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omV0i wish there was something like the mac file browser03:07
bigfootfiras, kestas, shall we try the "configure --prefix again?03:07
SeveaschocoIate, you could try03:07
liablechocoIate: what did you do, to get it to compile?03:07
bigfootIn terminal, i'm now in the directory that has the configure file.03:07
firasbigfoot:  this perl script should be straight forward03:08
onekilli get an XIO error trying to startx fatal IO error 10403:08
teknoprepSeveas, did you have to get the linux-source03:08
liablechocoIate: installed kernel source, and make a link?03:08
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liablechocoIate: and changed the makefile?03:08
dcravenomV0: Try nautilus --browser.03:08
Seveasteknoprep, nope03:08
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teknoprepdid you just use my xorg.conf03:09
teknoprepand it worked03:09
SeveaschocoIate, what is the name of the module you are trying to load03:09
chocoIateliable ; i just changed the setting like you and kestas patiently explained : i replaced replace /usr/src/linux-2.4 with /usr/src/linux-headers-numberhere directory03:09
chocoIatei'm trying to load sm5603:09
teknoprepbleh03:09
Seveasteknoprep, no, i only merged your "device" and some other settings with my existing xorg.conf03:09
teknoprepahh03:09
omV0thanks dc raven! much better now =)03:09
liablechocoIate: no, I dont know what hestas explained, as you /msg him03:10
bigfootfiras, ok. i'll send the opera bookmark file to you.03:10
SeveaschocoIate, find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ -name sm5603:10
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SeveaschocoIate, type that and see whether it finds something03:10
chocoIateok03:10
liableSeveas: hes on windows now :(03:10
Seveasliable, ah, didn't know that :)03:10
onekilli get an XIO error trying to startx fatal IO error 10403:11
dcravenomV0: No problem. There is a checkbox in preferences to always open in browser windows.03:11
chocoIateyeah unfortunately i was going to disconnect, load up linux03:11
chocoIatetry those commands, verify and come back03:11
liablechocoIate: do you know exactly what you did?03:11
chocoIatewhich is a bit of a pain, i have been in this condition for 4 days now :P03:11
SeveaschocoIate, is sm56 for your network?03:11
chocoIateyeah i know exactly what i did :P03:11
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chocoIateits for my modem03:11
liablechocoIate: tell me03:11
Seveasah03:11
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chocoIatei rem it step by step03:11
liablego03:11
chocoIatehahha ;P03:11
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chocoIatewell first i installed the source packages03:12
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chocoIatehowever running the make simply errored on me03:12
CybeRBl00Dhm03:12
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chocoIatei went to take a peek in  /usr/src/03:12
chocoIatethere was no linux folder03:12
Seveasso then you installed linux-headers-`uname -r`03:13
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chocoIateand the source file was in there the package i installed but it was in .gz format, still compressed03:13
CybeRBl00Di get the 13 error, also it says, "filesystem type ext2fs" ??? parttition type 0x8303:13
chocoIateno idea why03:13
new2gentoochocoIate, you create the linux folder03:13
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malte`hi03:13
chocoIatei must create the linux folder ;-?03:13
liablechocoIate: continue03:14
=== Seveas bbl, i need music
omV0uhh if i accidently killed the tasbar in xfce, how would i bring it back?03:14
firasbigfoot:  weird, no luck with the perl script, blank bookmarks.html file like u said03:14
omV0s/tasbar/taskbar03:14
chocoIatewell, anyway, so since there was already a linux-headers-numberhere folder  in /usr/src/03:14
firasbigfoot:  got a link for the tar.gz ?03:14
CybeRBl00D:S03:14
CybeRBl00Di get the 13 error, also it says, "filesystem type ext2fs" ??? partition type 0x8303:15
chocoIatei just changed this /usr/src/linux-2.4 in the makefile to this /usr/src/linux-headers-numberhere03:15
chocoIateand i ran the make, then the make install03:15
Seveasaaaaaaaaaah the relaxing sound of faithless :)03:15
chocoIateand it compiled with a success03:15
Seveasok where were we?03:15
chocoIateso i guess i didnt need the source files after all03:15
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chocoIatesource package i mean03:15
chocoIateanyway, thats all03:15
CybeRBl00Dseveas03:15
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chocoIateto accomplish this it took me all morning ofcourse :P03:15
bigfootfiras, http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bookmarkbridge/bookmarkbridge-0.72.tar.gz?download03:16
SeveasCybeRBl00D, that just means i was not confused about the mapping and that root (hd1,0) should work. But you say it is not at the beginning of your drive, did you remove partitions?03:16
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CybeRBl00Dyes03:16
liablechocoIate: ok, so now modprobe says no such file?03:16
Seveasah03:16
CybeRBl00Dthe first 500mb03:16
CybeRBl00Dof the disk03:16
CybeRBl00Dare unallocated03:16
CybeRBl00Dbecause the disk is damaged03:16
Seveasouch03:16
SeveasCybeRBl00D, get a new disk, you just cannot trust this one...03:17
CybeRBl00Dhahaha03:17
Seveasbut ok that does not solve the problem :)03:17
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CybeRBl00Dyeap but i have debian on my 20GB disk ;)03:17
chocoIateand by the way, the source package i installed it installed fine atleast from what ubuntu said in the terminal window after running pkgb command, however going in usr/src/ i found the package in there but still compressed in .gz format :S03:17
omV0anybody knows how to recover a taskbar if it was terminated? (using xfce)03:17
Brikhallo i have some problem with nvidia-glx on breezy03:17
chocoIateyes running modprobe says no such module03:18
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CybeRBl00Dhowever03:18
Andrilhello all03:18
chocoIatesays FATAL too03:18
liablechocoIate: yes, thats how it works03:18
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AndrilI have a Firefox guestion03:18
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SeveasCybeRBl00D, root(hdb,0) and rootnoverify(hdb,0) both did not work?03:18
CybeRBl00Dyes03:18
teknomaniachi i'm new.i would like to run kde ,i'm in gnome,how can do this ?03:19
CybeRBl00Dniether root or rootnoverify03:19
Andrilis it safe to use the Firefox 1.0.4 installed - instead of waiting for it to be added into the repository?03:19
CybeRBl00Dthey didn't work03:19
SeveasAndril, FF in the repository is 1.0.4 in disguise03:19
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CybeRBl00Das i saw on google, I think this is a very frequent problem03:19
SeveasCybeRBl00D, i'm out of options (other than buying a new disk)03:19
chocoIatethis is the message i got after running make install -->> Installation of SM56 Internal Modem completed.Please use the command "insmod sm56" Before dialingThe Command " depmod -a "  may can give some unresolved simbols in sm56 But the insmod will work properlyIf you experience any further problem Please Contact us03:19
dr_willisteknomaniac,  check out the "kubuntu" homepage - they show ya how to install their kde packages.  then theres a option on the gdm login screen to run kde.03:19
CybeRBl00Dhahaha03:19
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liablechocoIate: reboot and try03:20
teknoprepkubuntu defaults to kde03:20
chocoIatei did reboot more than once03:20
teknomaniacoki thx03:20
liablechocoIate: or boot into linux again03:20
chocoIatei will try again03:20
liablewait03:20
chocoIatehow do i uninstall what i installed03:20
liablechocoIate: you cant03:20
AndrilSeveas, you mean 1.0.2.0-ubuntu5.2 ????03:20
teknoprepapt-get remove03:20
chocoIateoh :S03:20
SeveasAndril, yes03:20
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Seveasit's 1.0.2 with all 1.0.4 security patches applied03:21
liablechocoIate: theres no uninstall script for it03:21
SeveasCybeRBl00D, they both said: Error 13?03:21
chocoIatei ran the make more than once too, maybe 3 times03:21
AndrilSeveas, strange because I still get Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)03:21
CybeRBl00Di'm going to create a tiny partition on the unallocated space, so windows will be able to put all his junk there ( i mean command.com )03:21
CybeRBl00Dno03:21
CybeRBl00Di think03:21
SeveasAndril, that is correct03:21
CybeRBl00Dwith root03:21
AndrilSeveas, and when I go to download themes it prompts me to install 1.0.403:22
teknoprepchocoIate, are you talking about something you compiled into the system03:22
CybeRBl00Dit said no devices found03:22
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SeveasAndril, just let FF fake it's browser ID string03:22
Funraiserhello all, look at that i'm trying to install adesklet (i tried from source, but even with all the missing libraries installed, i didn't work) so i downloaded the .deb, look what it says:  adesklets depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.03:22
teknoprepchocoIate, you will have to find out every file it installed and delete it03:22
SeveasCybeRBl00D, no error number?03:22
chocoIateexcellent, just what i do not need lol03:22
CybeRBl00Dhmm don't remember n.nU03:22
Funraiserit says also:  adesklets depends on libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0); however:03:22
Funraiser  Version of libfontconfig1 on system is 2.2.3-4ubuntu7.03:22
SeveasFunraiser, that's the problem using non-ubuntu debs...03:22
teknoprepSeveas, whats hit problem03:22
chocoIatei guess i'll reboot and see if i can get this to work somehow03:22
chocoIatebrb03:23
SeveasFunraiser, try to find one for debian stable03:23
liablechocoIate: no03:23
CybeRBl00Di'm gonna try repartitioning my old disk03:23
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FunraiserSeveas, it only exists on debian unstable03:23
bigfootgeneral question: How can I narrow the spacing of the stuff in the toolbars? For example, those using Terminal, "File" has 6 dropdown options (Open Terminal; Open Tab; New Profile; Close Tab; Close Window) . Between each option is much space. I'd like to "squish"  or have tighter line spacing. How can one do this?03:23
chocoIatewhat do you suggest i do liable :o03:23
CybeRBl00Dthanks for your help anyway :D03:23
AndrilSeveas, i guess it'lll work for me eventually - thanks03:23
FunraiserSeveas, and from source it doesn't work either...03:23
teknoprepc:\03:23
dr_willisbigfoot,  much space? hmm - i have vrey little space. perhaps its your font setting set to a large font? or real small one?03:24
teknoprepAndril, you talking about firefox03:24
liablechocoIate: when you get in there, run 'sudo update-modules' dunno, grasping at straws, search /lib/modules for the module too03:24
Funraiserand by the way...gdesklets is very crapy03:24
Andrilteknoprep, yes sir03:24
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Funraiserworks half the time only03:24
teknoprepAndril, let it update03:24
teknoprepAndril, there is an auto update option that works03:25
SeveasFunraiser, file bugs then :)03:25
Andrilteknoprep, can you help? update = from the installer?03:25
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teknoprepAndril, no from inside firefox itself03:25
chocoIateok, i will do that03:25
chocoIatebrb03:25
chocoIatethanks all :P03:26
teknoprepAndril, check for updates03:26
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dataw0lf|wHas anyone managed to get mod_python up and running ?03:26
teknoprepAndril, hold i am install firefox now03:26
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Funraiserwell actually it's not gdesklets it's a particular desklet in gdesklet, the one for the RSS feed03:26
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bigfootdr_willis, you touched on another point: font size. I'd like to decrease both. Both spacing between the choices in the dropdown menus in all programs, and text size. How can this be done?03:27
SeveasFunraiser, use sage in firefox ;)03:27
Andrilteknoprep, I hope it's that easy03:27
FunraiserSeveas, it's an add-on?03:27
dr_willisbigfoot,  try the font preferance tool.  I tend to set mine very LARGE. :P03:27
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teknoprepAndril, yeah just goto Check for update button in your Extension window.. i think its under tool's03:28
kzm_Anybody know when Ubuntu torrent servers will be up?03:28
SeveasFunraiser, it's an extension :)03:28
Funraiserohhhhh03:28
bigfootMy keyboard's ALT keys don't work. What's wrong?03:29
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bigfootI'm using a Japanese keyboard, but my layout is in Dvorak.03:29
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Andrilteknoprep, i get this when I try to get themes: You must upgrade to version 1.0.4 or newer of Firefox before accessing the Mozilla Update web service. In order to keep your computer safe when using the Internet, its important to install new updates of Firefox as soon as they are available. Click on the Upgrade Now link to get the latest version of Firefox.03:29
Andrilteknoprep, that only does my Extensions & Plu Ins03:30
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zoolar2ahem, i was about to ask a breezy question... ^_^"03:31
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Seveaszoolar2, read the topic please :)03:31
Seveasbut feel free to ask03:32
zoolar2Seveas, i did. :-)03:32
Seveasthe topic doesn't say "don't ask anything about breezy" ;)03:32
kzm_...or does anybody have the DVD image available?03:32
zoolar2well, basically the shortcuts in GNOME application started to behave strangely.03:33
zoolar2otherwise breezy worked flawlessly until today03:33
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Seveaszoolar2, quite possible03:33
Seveasapplications do not start or crash?03:33
zoolar2Seveas, any hint on the direction to investigate?03:34
Seveasmost c++ applications will crash03:34
zoolar2No, things like CTRL+W in galeon open a new tab03:34
Seveaslol03:34
zoolar2When it should close it03:35
Seveasthat's funny :)03:35
zoolar2Almost all CTRL+something open a new tab. In gnome-terminal, CTRL+something closes it! :-)03:35
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moyogothis is weird, my pc keyboard is behaving like a sun keyboard since I've reconfigured X03:35
Seveaszoolar2, well, that's the consequence of using breezu03:35
Seveasbreezy*03:35
Seveascan be related to the c++ transition or the X.org one03:36
moyogoCtrl+* does a Ctrl+N03:36
bigfootfiras, how you doing?03:36
Seveasmoyogo, breezy?03:36
moyogoyeah03:36
SeveasDO NOT use breezy.03:36
moyogobreezy, is it a common problem03:36
Seveasread the topic03:36
zoolar2a brother! :-)03:36
moyogoSeabook: hehe ok, sorry03:36
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Seveasand yes, zoolar2 just experienced the same :)03:36
j2dope-- for the record i got Nvu installed guys. it rocks. thanks for your help03:36
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firasbigfoot:  workin' on it, to configure this thing u need a gazillion development headers & libraries, i'm downloading them now03:36
Seveasi think it's the X.org transition that causes this03:37
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moyogoSeveas: another X.org transition?03:37
zoolar2Seveas, at this point I'm curious, because KDE applications work right03:37
Seveaszoolar2, hmm...03:37
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Seveasmoyogo, yes, the "get rid of /usr/X11R6" transition03:38
moyogoI should try xfce4 or another environment03:38
moyogoSeabook: ah...03:38
Seveasxfce rocks03:38
zoolar2LOL, and I can't exit vmware because of the CTRL+ALT shortcut03:38
Seveasmoyogo, watch your tab completions ;)03:38
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Seveasmy neighbours are gonna hate me...03:39
UnreA|LHow turn on or install OSS ( Unable to open /dev/dsp ) ?03:39
Seveasi just abused the X-bass feature of my stereo ;)03:40
UnreA|LHow turn on or install OSS me write when i try tes -> ( Unable to open /dev/dsp ) ?03:40
SeveasUnreA|L, disable ESD03:40
Seveasor make your program use ESD03:40
UnreA|Lhow disable it ?03:40
UnreA|Lhow make it ?03:40
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Seveassystem -> preferences -> sound03:40
moyogoSeabook: what about tabcompletion?03:40
Seveasdiable "enable sound server startup"03:41
Seveasbut you'll loose all gnoe sounds03:41
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moyogoSeveas: i mean Seveas sorry Seabook03:41
Seveasmoyogo, you constantly call me Seabook :))03:41
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bigfoothi all: i was playing around with the Desktop's toolbar (properties) now that toolbar is in the middle of my screen. How can I get it back to the middle of the screen where it belongs?03:41
bigfootSorry, not "back to the middle..." but "back to the top"03:41
bigfootdragging does nothing03:41
Seveasby setting orientation to top bigfoot ?03:42
UnreA|LThanks Seveas  now it works ;)03:42
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Andrilteknoprep, did you get it installed?03:43
bigfootSeveas, but I'm not in the preferences box anymore.03:43
bigfootand i can't get back there coz there is no place to "right click".03:43
teknoprepAndril,  no03:43
Seveasah03:43
teknoprepAndril, yes i did.. but can't find the autoupdate03:43
bigfootSeveas, I removed the checkbox for "expand"03:43
Seveasbigfoot, click on the leftmost or rightmost pixel of the imploded toolbar03:44
Seveasthat should work03:44
ircbot_so... excited...03:44
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ircbot_about to leave for star wars!!!!03:44
Andrilteknoprep, yep - that's why I was wondering if the installer would damage my future updates03:44
Seveasmay the force be with you ;)03:44
ircbot_i will probably need it to fight the lines03:44
ircbot_yay for fandango03:44
ircbot_yay for my boss who bought my ticket on fandango03:44
AndrilMy force is bigger than your's :)03:44
CybeRBl00Di give up xD03:45
CybeRBl00Dhaha03:45
ircbot_yes but my schwarts is bigger than yours03:45
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Seveasahh, spaceballs!03:45
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CybeRBl00Dspaceballs rulez03:46
SeveasCybeRBl00D, nothing worked?03:46
Andrilircbot_, yep good movie also03:46
CybeRBl00Dno03:46
CybeRBl00Di'm gonna try later03:46
CybeRBl00Dhehehe03:46
CybeRBl00Dhey yesterday i download Cube200403:47
bigfootSeveas, thanks _so_ much!03:47
Seveasyw bigfoot03:47
CybeRBl00Dbut it puts that the SDL libraries aren't installed03:48
bigfootSeveas, may i be so bold to ask another q re: the GUI?03:48
teknoprepandril nah.. the install installs it to your ~/ directory03:48
Seveasbigfoot, ask all you want :)03:48
CybeRBl00Di tried apt-get but it didn't find them :(03:48
CybeRBl00Dcan u help me ?_?03:48
bigfootHow do i make font size of the menu and its dropdown menu stuff smaller?03:48
bigfootI'm talking about all programs/menus.03:49
SeveasCybeRBl00D, you still need to compile it?03:49
CybeRBl00Dno03:49
CybeRBl00Dit has the binaries i think03:49
Echelon-His there anything lighter than xfce?03:49
SeveasEchelon-H, fluxbox03:49
g14Echelon-H: Blackbox03:49
zoolar2Echelon-H, ion03:49
Seveasbigfoot, no idea, never tried that03:49
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CarlKwill this preseed work with breezy: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs01.html (changing hoary to breez)03:50
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Echelon-HHmm what do you recommand, xfce4 or fluxbox?03:50
SeveasCybeRBl00D, there are quite a few sdl libraries03:50
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SeveasCybeRBl00D, do apt-cache search libsdl and install what you think is neccessary03:50
SeveasEchelon-H, what are the specd of your machine?03:51
Echelon-Hp4 1.3 ghz03:51
Echelon-H128 ram03:51
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Seveasmore than enough to run even gnome or kde :)03:53
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CybeRBl00D:D03:53
zoolar2with 128 megs it's a pain03:53
Echelon-Hbut I had gnome and it was slow.03:53
Echelon-Hxfce will do the trick?03:54
SeveasEchelon-H, try xfce, it's easy to install03:54
Seveasapt-get install xfce403:54
Echelon-Hcan anyone tell me wtf is apt-get?03:54
Echelon-Hor for that matter apt thingy?03:54
Seveasit's how you install software :)03:55
Seveasit's how you install prebuilt and tested ubuntu packages actually03:55
Seveasyou can do it with synaptic too03:55
Seveasor aptitude03:55
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Andrilteknoprep, thansk anyways - i'll wait for it & beagle too03:56
CybeRBl00D./bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:56
CybeRBl00D:(03:56
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SeveasCybeRBl00D, apt-get install libsdl-image1.203:57
Echelon-HUhhh, anyone got a clue where can I get vent 2.1.4 for linux03:58
CybeRBl00Dit says couldn't find package :S03:58
Seveasit;s in universe, do you have that enabled?03:59
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firasbigfoot: try this03:59
teknomaniaci've installed kde ,how can i run it ?04:00
Seveasteknomaniac, did you install it via apt-get/synaptic?04:00
Riddellteknomaniac: select kde as the session before you log in04:00
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teknomaniacyes04:01
Zyprexa_Can someone help me with booting the Ubuntu cd?04:01
Seveasteknomaniac, then follow Riddell's advice :)04:01
SeveasZyprexa_, just put it in the drive and boot..?04:01
Zyprexa_doesn't work.04:01
Zyprexa_ it does something for a long time when booting from cd-rom is enabled and then boots from hdd.04:02
Zyprexa_I tried smart boot manager but it tells that filesystem is corrupted or something like that04:02
SeveasZyprexa_, then you have a failed CD04:02
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Seveasdid you burn it yourself?04:02
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Zyprexa_I also tested the cd with another computer and it worked04:02
Zyprexa_yes i burned it myself as a iso04:03
teknomaniacok,how can i select kde as the session?:Pi'm new and i don't know04:03
rickardlHello! I'm trying to install ubuntu linux on my computer, but I have some problems configuring RAID, can anyone help me out here?04:03
Zyprexa_i think it's either my bios or my cd-drives04:03
jeroen_teknomaniac, just log out04:03
jeroen_teknomaniac, and select session04:03
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teknomaniacaaaaa thx:P04:04
rickardlWhat am I supposed to do inte the partition section to configure raid?04:04
Zyprexa_Do cd-roms read pressed cds better than home-burned?04:04
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zoolar2Zyprexa_, surely04:04
Seveasrickardl, are you trying to install on raid?04:05
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Zyprexa_I think it might be just two realy lousy cd-drves.04:05
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SeveasZyprexa_, sounds like it04:05
rickardlI guess so...04:05
Seveasrickardl, search the wiki for tips04:05
rickardlmy computer has raid if that is what you mean04:05
Zyprexa_so just waiting for the pressed ones to come?04:06
rickardlhmm, I've tried, but I can have another look at it04:06
sebas_check with the partitioning tool what partitions your system has04:06
rickardlmy system have two disks with two empty partitions04:07
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sebas_it also shows you ext2 ext3 reiserf raid04:07
rickardlno04:08
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Shuflahello :D04:08
sebas_ubuntu is not complete yet in graphical interfaces04:08
Shufla??04:08
sebas_messing with your partitioning may make your system useless04:08
jaredI'm distubed, I'm having a problem I thought I had left behind when I left M$.04:08
jared OOo won't start up. tried deleting the profile, and doing a complete remove and install04:08
jeroen_Shufla, hello04:08
jaredWhere can I find the errors that are surely coming up?04:09
Shuflajared: start oowriter from console, what's the output?04:09
jeroen_jared, run it in a terminal04:09
Shuflas/console/terminal/04:09
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jeroen_Shufla, konsole == kde :P04:09
Shuflais debian package building documentation suitable to ubuntu04:09
Shuflajeroen_: console == text console afair ;)04:10
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jaredI'm confused because I can't find OpenOffice's user files.04:10
BrianB04Is there a Ubuntu kernel that has support for SMP built in?04:10
jaredThat's what it say04:10
jaredI guess I should put the profile back. one sec...04:10
Shuflajared: Apps->System->Terminal. then type oowriter. look for errors.04:10
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sebas_a usefull trick is to save your current desktop and save the installation package you are using. With an ubuntu iso online install cd you can put your own system back by using the backed-up package information on ly04:11
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SeveasBrianB04,04:11
Seveasyes04:11
SeveasBrianB04, install either linux-686-smp or linux-k7-smp (p4 resp. amd)04:12
sebas_ubuntu uses debian04:12
sebas_commands are the same04:12
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BrianB04I didn't know if anything in the ubuntu kernel that's installed by default, is tweaked04:12
jaredok, so I deleted /home/jared/.openoffice/1.1.3 , Thought it would be rebuilt like in m$ word (dumb!), so how can I get it back?04:12
jaredit's not in the trash can04:13
Seveasjared, it should be rebuilt...04:13
sebas_differences user and group set-up also ubuntu has no superuser standard04:13
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sebas_making a superuser makes repartitioning a running system possible04:13
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jeroen_sebas_, why not with sudo?04:14
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sebas_only a superuser can allow its own space to shrink in or out04:14
jaredYour ~/.sversionrc file tells they should be under /home/jared/.openoffice/1.1.3 , but they are not. Please fix the situation manually.04:14
jaredYou may want to edit ~/.sversionrc to indicate where is OO installed, or remove it if you did remove your installation directory manually (you bad one).04:14
sebas_the command sudo leaves a lower user, the one you,re logged in with, running04:15
Shuflait is very hard to be foss developer on lagged connection :(04:15
jaredSeveas, should I (temporarily) delete ~/.sversionrc also?04:16
sebas_sudo meanes a second active user temporarely the superuser can't you smell problems with security04:17
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jeroen_sebas_, sudo means superuser do04:17
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BrianB04Well, it rebooted, and came back up, now I gotta wait till I get home to see if everything booted right:)04:18
sebas_other linux variants have tools with GUI that allow repartitioning04:18
jaredSeveas, got it! deleted the ~/.sversionrc and it worked. Thanks04:18
space_oddityhello, anyone with an Ati Mobility Radeon 9200?04:18
mjrspace_oddity, no, but a non-mobility 9250 and a mobility 9000 yes04:19
sebas_Yast2 Suse is such an system04:19
mjrboth work out of the box04:19
mjrso if you have a spesific problem I mightn't have the answer04:19
tng_haydenhow do i isntall ati drivers?04:19
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space_odditymjr, does 3d accell. funcion?04:19
mjrspace_oddity, yes, and it should work pretty much out of the box (radeons <=9250 have 3d accel with the default free drivers, as opposed to the restricted drivers)04:20
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space_odditymmm04:20
mjr(the restricted drivers might give you some extra speed, hassle and nonfreenes, but I haven't tried them)04:20
space_odditymy 9200 does not have 3d acell...04:20
space_oddityjust a sec04:21
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mjrspace_oddity, see /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or something like that) and see any mentions for DRM/DRI04:21
mjrit'll probably tell you what's wrong if indeed something is04:21
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space_odditymjr, yes04:22
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space_oddity cat Xorg.0.log | grep EE04:23
space_oddity        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.04:23
space_oddity(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER04:23
space_oddity(EE) RADEON(0): [agp]  AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI.04:23
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space_odditycat Xorg.0.log | grep WW04:23
space_oddity        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.04:23
space_oddity(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.04:23
space_oddity(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" does not exist.04:23
space_oddity(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID".04:23
space_oddity(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)04:23
space_oddity(WW) RADEON(0): Failed to detect secondary monitor, MergedFB/Clone mode disabled(WW) RADEON(0): [agp]  AGP not available04:23
theineIs eclipse build with gcj in the breezy repos?04:23
space_oddity(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)04:23
mjrspace_oddity, please don't paste the entire thing here; use pastebin.com or something04:23
space_odditysorry :-(04:24
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mjrspace_oddity, anyway, yes, it seems the problem is agp aperture support, which is a motherboard chipset thing and not really an X thing anymore (though it affects X)04:24
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mjrthat _should_ be automatically configured for most mbs but apparently in your case not :(04:25
space_odditybut I have ati-agp loaded04:25
space_oddityif I disable         Load    "extmod"    in xorg.conf04:25
space_oddityit works great04:25
mjrspace_oddity, hm? With 3d?04:26
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space_odditymjr, yes04:26
Seveasspace_oddity, you just need to disable dga04:26
SeveasSubSection "extmod"04:26
SeveasOption "omit xfree86-dga"04:27
SeveasEndSubSection04:27
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space_odditySeveas, ok04:27
mjrwell, good riddance to DGA then ;)04:27
space_oddityomit xfree86-dga ? xfree86 not xorg-dga?04:27
qkohello04:27
w0wiewith apt is it possible to pin to a specific source?04:28
qkowhich program plays avi formats?04:28
mjrxfree86-dga is the extension name, so I'd think it remains the same in X.org04:28
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marioshello everyone04:28
sebas_anyone? i can't set the size of the frames and fonts on the screen proper04:28
sebas_applications like tv work fine but the browserframes are to big04:29
Seveasspace_oddity, good one04:29
Seveasi was wondering about that myself04:29
Seveasbut this works04:29
tng_haydenis it possible to make a .deb from a .rpm, if so how/04:29
Seveastng_hayden, yes, with alien04:29
tng_haydenok thanks04:30
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othernoobdoes anyone know where i can get ati radeon 9800 pro drivers ?04:31
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theineIs anybody running eclispe with gcj/gij on Ubuntu?04:31
space_odditySeveas, but in wich section should the "Subsection "extmod"" reside?04:31
Seveasspace_oddity, where normally you say Load "extmod"04:32
Seveasyou don't say Load "extmod" now04:32
spiderwormon a 64 bit system, how do i set up 32 bit firefox?04:32
space_oddityok04:33
space_oddityI will try04:33
space_odditybye04:33
theinespiderworm, just out of curiosity, why do you want 32 bit firefox?04:33
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spiderwormtheine: flash player04:34
mjrspiderworm, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 might help04:34
theinespiderworm, oh, i see04:35
ogi_any idea why mplayer kinda hangs when I try to open a .wmv04:36
marioshttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-October/007837.html04:36
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mariossee this04:36
marioshttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-October/007837.html04:36
mariosfirefox32 on amd6404:36
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HoxzerSpider: you can't04:36
mjrof course, they probably won't04:36
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Seveasogi_, is it drm protected?04:36
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ogi_Seveas,  no idea..04:36
Seveasogi_, do other .wmv files work?04:37
ogi_no04:37
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ogi_I've installed the w32 codecs but..04:37
Seveasogi_, then you probably need to fiddle with the mplayer config :)04:38
Seveasdo the .wmv files work with totem>04:38
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van_hi04:38
ogi_Seveas,  not there either04:38
Seveasah04:38
van_maybe anyone knows will Alias Maya work on Ubuntu linux?04:38
marioshello vi04:38
refuze2loozewhat packages do i need from apt-get to get nfs working? currently i have nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server. is there anything else?04:38
refuze2loozevan_: it should04:38
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van_http://www.alias.com/eng/support/maya/qualified_hardware/QUAL/maya_65_linux.html#os-nonRH04:38
Seveasogi_, do you get an error when you start totem from a terminal and try to play the .wmv file?04:39
Seveasor does it just hang?04:39
ogi_hmm04:39
Seveasvan_, maya works on ubuntu04:39
van_yey :)04:39
van_thank you both for the answer04:39
bluefoxicyhow do I find the temp of my CPU?04:40
bluefoxicythere was a program that did it without I2C installed04:40
ogi_Seveas,  how do I start if from terminal ? :)04:40
Seveasogi_, open a terminal (applications -> system tools -> terminal) and type: totem04:41
Seveasthen simply open the file and hit play04:41
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s_yuan31teeany on noe how to diff all the *.c file in a directory04:42
resiaks_yuan31tee: Diff them all against each other?04:43
s_yuan31teediff /home/dir/*.c /home/xxx/*.c just wont work04:43
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ogi_Seveas, "there were no decoders found to handle the stream in file:....."04:43
ogi_so totem doesn't hang but it just doesn't open the file04:44
resiaks_yuan31tee: No, it won't work. You'll need some kind of bash goodness to do something like `for $name in *; do $SOME_MAGICAL_WAY_TO_ASSIGN_THE_OTHER_FILE_TO_$foo; diff $name $foo; done;04:44
ogi_mplayer hangs04:44
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ogi_Seveas,  http://pastebin.com/28656304:45
s_yuan31teeresiak: can u pls provide me an example on how to do magic way to assign other file to foo?04:45
ogi_terminal gives me those messages when I tried to open the wmv-file04:46
Seveasogi_, did you install w32codecs?04:46
ogi_Seveas,  yes04:46
Seveasfrom marillat testing or unstable?04:46
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resiaks_yuan31tee: I _think_ that `for $i in *; do j=`echo $i | perl -pe 's#/home/dir#/home/xxx#'; diff $i $j; done;` works.04:46
ogi_sec04:46
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s_yuan31teeresiak: cool, will try tat out04:47
resiaks_yuan31tee: But you really should ask in #sh . More to the point, Perl is overkill, but I don't speak sed.04:47
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Seveass_yuan31tee, cd to the first dir04:48
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Seveasthen do: for X in *; do diff $X /path/to/other/dir/$X; done;04:49
mcdonaldswesbash question: I have a variable with filename in it, like "/usr/local/foo"... is there an easy way to drop the foo and get "/usr/local/"?04:49
Brikdpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'04:49
Brikwhat can i do?04:49
resiakSeveas: You are far wiser than I :)04:50
resiakDoesn't diff do recursion by itself?04:50
ogi_hmm..I found out that atleast I have forgot to edit the mplayer.conf file04:50
Brik nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-3_i386.deb04:50
Brikhave some problem....04:50
Seveasor without a cd: for X in /path/to/dir/1; do diff $X /path/to/dir/2/`basename $X`; done;04:50
Seveasresiak, no idea :)04:50
resiakYou can do diff DIR1 DIR204:51
resiak...04:51
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Seveashehehe04:51
resiaks_yuan31tee: You can do diff DIR1 DIR204:51
Seveaslol04:51
resiak |04:51
resiak/ \04:51
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shinuhow do i restart my ssh server?04:51
Seveasshinu, /etc/init.d/sshd restart04:52
shinuok thanks Seveas04:52
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ogi_Seveas,  how do I find out if w32 are from marillat testing or unstable04:52
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ogi_They are form marillat that's for sure but..04:52
sebas_marc are you there04:52
Seveaswhich version is it?04:52
Seveasyou can find out with dpkg -l w32codecs04:53
Seveasi have 20050216 and that works fine04:53
bluefoxicywhat do I need to view my CPU temp?04:53
Briknobody else have problems with nvidia-glx_1.0.7174 packet?04:53
Seveasbluefoxicy, a mobo with a sensor ;)04:53
bluefoxicysomeone when i first got my amd64 stopped me from installing lm-sensors because it needed i2c04:53
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ogi_Seveas,  2005041204:53
bluefoxicyand recommended another app that didn't need a kernel module04:53
shinuis it ok if i have both ssh and openssh-server installed?04:53
bluefoxicyand i got my mobo temp and CPU temp04:53
Seveashmm, that's much newer than mine, so they should work :|04:54
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bluefoxicybut I don't remember wtf the app was04:54
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Seveasbluefoxicy, there are gdesklets for that...04:54
bluefoxicySeveas:  this was a program that drew 1 pixel wide graph lines04:55
kestaswhen I pictured gdesklets I pictured apple's dashboard04:55
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ogi_Seveas, http://pastebin.com/28656604:55
ogi_this is what it gave me when: dpkg -l w32codecs04:56
sebas_how do i get a chat back04:56
sebas_someone called marc made a button apear but after reboot it is gone04:57
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xMaximexIs there an apt command to list and remove all unused dependencies ?04:57
SeveasxMaximex, you might want to look into debfoster04:57
Seveasbe careful with it though04:58
sebas_I still have problems with my frames and lots more04:58
npivwhere can I change the default option, when you right click a video file it says open with totem, I need it to open with gmplayer -autosync 3004:58
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Seveasogi_, i have no idea, i can only say that it works for me, sorry...04:58
ogi_ok04:58
ogi_well tell me how to kill mplayer04:58
npivkilall mplayer04:58
ogi_doesn't work04:59
npivkillall -9 mplayer04:59
teknoprepno funky a04:59
npivtry killall gmplayer04:59
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npivor with -9 option04:59
teknoprepps -aux | grep player04:59
ogi_gmplayer worked04:59
npivsweet04:59
npivmplayer is the console player, gmplayer is the gnome frontend05:00
npivanyone here know gnome pretty well, where can I change the right click menu, specifically the default option to open media files with totem05:00
w0wiedoes wine work for anyone when they apt-get it?05:01
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tronddnpiv: rightclick and select properties, and then the tab "Open with"05:01
npivtrondd, :) I dont want to do that every time05:02
npivI want to change the menu05:02
sebas_npiv set default05:02
tronddnpiv: you don't have to, you can change the default player from htere.05:02
npivoh, my aplogies, Ill check it out05:02
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sebas_how can i change frame sizes05:03
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sebas_how can i change frame sizes the frames are to big for the screen i can't find the buttons05:04
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Seveasw0wie, wine works for me05:05
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Seveasbut it depends on the application05:05
digip1mpdoes anyone know of software that will let me _share_ a gnome desktop session with a remote user?05:05
Seveasdigip1mp, doesn't the ubuntu-provided vnc solution work?05:06
digip1mpSeveas: does it actually share a current local session, or does it start a new one?05:06
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Seveasdigip1mp, if you go to system->preferences->remote desktop you can set it up to share your local session. VNC does not start new ones05:08
Seveasyou can select either share the view or share the control05:08
Orunitialet's ask this one more time... I installed Hoary, and it freezes when gdm goes to start, any ideas?05:08
Briksomeone help me05:08
npivtrondd, you where right man, thanks ;)05:08
Briki need adjuste my video card05:09
Brikglx...don't work05:09
Orunitiawhere is the x.org file located?05:09
SeveasOrunitia, do you get any clues from the logs on why it freezes?05:09
BrikOriuntia th x.org it's ok05:10
tronddsebas_:05:10
Brikthe problem is on acceleration05:10
Orunitiait's ok?05:10
Seveas /var/log/Xorg.*.log05:10
Orunitiabe right back then05:10
Briki can't install nvida-glx deb because there is a conflict between two libraries05:10
Briki can't install the packet, of course can't goes05:11
SeveasBrianB04, where did you get the deb from?05:11
sebas_how can i change frame sizes the frames are to big for the screen i can't find the buttons05:11
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Seveassebas_, frames of what??05:11
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OrunitiaSeveas - no such log05:11
sebas_can anyone help out with framerate settings05:12
SeveasOrunitia, hmm05:12
Seveasthere should be Xorg.0.log and Xorg.20.log (they are on my machine at least)05:12
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sebas_frames of applications like browsers and gaim05:12
Orunitianope, nothing even close05:12
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sebas_all tv frames work perfect it is not the on-board card05:13
OrunitiaCan you tell me where x.org's config file is? Been a while since I've had to mess with one05:13
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SeveasOrunitia, /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:14
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Orunitiaodd thing is I don't think I saw that when I looked05:14
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Orunitiaodd... no /etc/X1105:15
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Seveasthat might explain things...05:15
Orunitiaheh, yeah05:15
sebas_Seveas frames of all x-server applications05:15
SeveasOrunitia, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:15
Orunitiaokay, be right back then05:16
Seveassebas_, i don't understand what you want to do...05:16
sebas_Seveas frames of all x-server applications05:16
sebas_Seveas frames of all x-server applications05:16
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mainercrunitia: run as root,  xorgconfig = command05:17
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mainerinteractive set-up tool for xorg05:17
sebas_Seveas frames of all x-server applications05:17
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Seveassebas_, can you be a bit more clear please05:18
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Seveasif you want to resize an application, click on a border and drag05:18
Seveasor hit the maximize/minimize buttons05:18
sebas_Seveas frames of all x-server applications all the frames are way to big05:18
tng_haydenis there a way to list all the packages that are installed, in a terminal05:18
Seveastng_hayden, dpkg -l05:18
tng_haydenthanks05:18
ximhi. it's a bit inconvenient to stay with Firefox 1.0.2 while 1.0.4 exists, since the extensions page want you to upgrade to 1.0.4 before doing anything else...05:18
Seveastng_hayden, dpkg --get-selections gives vomplete names but without version numbers05:19
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Seveass/vomplete/complete/05:19
ximis there any plans to update to 1.0.405:19
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Seveasxim, FF on ubuntu is 1.0.4 in disguise05:19
Seveasit has all 1.0.4 security updates05:19
tng_haydenthanks05:19
Seveasand you can make FF lie about its version05:19
cmg_I installed Hoary, and i am having trouble with Fonts in a certain editor (SciTE)... it won't use certain Fonts that are available in other applications (like gedit or terminal)05:19
ximSeveas, how?05:20
Seveasxim, you can set its User-Agent: string05:20
ximSeveas, i know that 1.0.2 is patched for security though05:20
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ximSeveas, about:config?05:20
cmg_whats a good programmers editor that I can get from Synaptics?05:22
Seveascmg_, vim05:22
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cmg_Seveas, is vim like vi?  I wana a gui editor05:22
Seveasxim, actually, i did that with a plugin but i thought it was available without one too05:22
ximcmg_, use gvim05:22
Seveascmg_, vim-gnome then :)05:23
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Seveascmg_, gedit is not bad too05:23
ubuntudir05:23
Seveasand for KDE there is kate05:23
cmg_my fav editor is SciTE, but it gives me so many probs with Hoary05:23
ximSeveas, circular dependency: i need an extension to lie about ff version, so i can get extensions ;)05:23
Seveasyeah i know, it's bad :)05:24
Seveasbut i'm still looking in the ff config05:24
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cmg_ok.. got gvim.. now what is rgvim?05:28
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ximcmg_, a restricted gvim. no need for you.05:29
cmg_xim, thanks.. can gvim show console output?05:29
ximcmg_, i've tried to set fonts in scite, and got no problems.05:30
ximcmg_, yes05:30
ximyou type ":!command" and you'll see the output05:30
cmg_xim, NONE of my monotype fonts work.. all I want is to find a readable monotype font to use in SciTE05:30
cmg_xim, ive literally spent like 10 hours fooling with fonts with it05:30
ximUse a bang before the FT name05:30
xMaximexdoes anyone tried to print on a canon i560 via a windows share ??? It doesn't work here05:30
cmg_xim, bang before what?05:31
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cmg_xim, also scite doesn't work with nautilus.. which makes it a huge pain in the ass05:31
ximeg, in .SciteUser.properties05:31
IFRFLYRI updated Ubuntu's Mozilla Firefox using the automatic update feature, now my extensions no longer work AND Mozilla.org/firefox won't let me access the Extensions page to get new ones because I'm using Ubuntu 1.02. What should I do?05:31
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ximfont.base=font:!Mono,size:1005:31
ximfont.small=font:!Mono,size:905:31
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cmg_xim, Hoary has basically been a disaster for me.. Im tempted to go back to Warty05:32
ximI'm not familiar at all with scite though05:32
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cartHi, there's a way to apt get all devel tools i need to devel in c/c++ for example???05:32
cmg_xim, the bang fixed my prob05:32
cmg_:D05:33
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IFRFLYRPut different: How can I update Firefox to latest other than manual install of 1.0.4  (ubuntu firefox is 1.0.2)?05:33
cmg_xim, thanks dude!  now I can use scite again :)  If I could only get to work from Nautilus05:33
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tsumeIFRFLYR: build manually05:34
IFRFLYRI was told on this list that I should avoid that due to some ubuntu drama, tsume. Thanks. Can you advise the path Firefox should be in in Ubuntu?05:34
digip1mpIFRFLYR: if you want the latest and greatest, package-based operating systems are not for you...  otherwise, you have to wait for a ne wpacakage to be released...  It sucks, but that is really the answer05:35
tsume1.0.205:35
digip1mpIFRFLYR: you might be able to find someone who has compiled an ubuntu package of out there on the web somewhere with some google work05:35
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IFRFLYRFolks, I'm happy to compile it (My other computer is a Gentoo Box ;) ) but I was advised against it here. Can anyone tell me where Mozilla firefox wants to live under Ubuntu?05:36
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sjokoHI!05:36
ximIFRFLYR, /usr/local is the prefix for unpackaged but compiled programs05:36
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sjokoanyone here with dvd playback problems?05:37
sjokoor anyone could help me?05:37
firasRhi sjoko05:37
ximIFRFLYR, /opt is sometimes used to unpackaged and binairy packages05:37
IFRFLYRThanks xim! I looked on this box and see /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox and /usr/bin/firefox though - that was my confusion05:37
nickrudIFRFLYR, I read on this list last night that if you change general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4, extensions will work again.05:37
sjokoi have done the steps from ubuntuguide.org05:38
firasRsjoko: what's ur problem ?05:38
ximIFRFLYR, s/packages/software or applications/05:38
IFRFLYRThanks nickrud!05:38
ximIFRFLYR, /usr prefix is for packaged software05:38
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digip1mpIFRFLYR: hahahha I was going to tell you to use Gentoo, but decided against it in the Ubuntu channel.  I got really sick of trying to maintain bleeding edge while working and going to school so I am trying to train myself to be patient...05:38
IFRFLYRdigip1mp: ;)05:38
ximI've been running Gentoo for more than a year, and the only benefit i see is for newbies to learn about the guts of a linux system. The gentoo documention is very good05:39
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digip1mpxim: yeah - I used Gentoo to throw myself into using open source...05:40
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IFRFLYRXim, the advantages are greater than that, though I agree.  I love knowing exactly what's there, and not having any rubbish in the kernel or yes, the /usr tree!05:40
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digip1mpxim: I still think it's easiest to maintain apache servers that need special modules or configs on Gentoo05:40
IFRFLYRI also think gentoo is best for running a server for mail and web...05:40
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HrdwrBoBIFRFLYR: that is why you're not a server admin.05:41
chocoIateback05:41
nanomadi need a help...someone should tell me ubuntu defaults fonts 'cause ive messed up with mine05:41
sigIFRFLYR: I also think people that say dumb stuff like that are dumb.05:41
chocoIateliable : you in there man :o05:41
siglisten to you05:41
siggo back to #gentoo05:41
HrdwrBoBlet me tell you what is best for a server... stability. security.05:41
IFRFLYRHrdwrBob,  and sig, thanks so much05:41
signo one wants to hear you05:41
firasRnanomad:  just "sans" for everything and "monospace" for terminal fonts05:42
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ximdigip1mp, the lack of reverse dependencies makes Gentoo risky on servers, IMHO05:42
IFRFLYRIf anyone took offence, I meant none. It's just a discussion. Take it easy, folks05:42
HrdwrBoBlook, there's nothing wrong with gentoo05:42
ximdebian stable is very good for server05:42
HrdwrBoBrun gentoo all you like05:43
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IFRFLYRI run both and like both.05:43
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HrdwrBoBbut it's not, and inherently never will be a good choice for a server05:43
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HrdwrBoBespecially when you run 30-40 severs05:43
HrdwrBoBand you need them all to just work05:43
ximIFRFLYR, familiar with fixpackages and revdep-rebuild?05:43
IFRFLYRNope, please tell me!05:43
nanomadfirasR, thx05:44
ximIFRFLYR, ok, so you don't know gentoo intimately ;)05:44
IFRFLYRNever said I did, xim!05:44
ximlol05:44
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ximj/k05:44
HrdwrBoBxim: on an unrelated note - freenx is very, very cool.05:44
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HrdwrBoB-xim05:44
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chocoIateok, heres my case, i have successfully built this driver under ubuntu -->> http://www.sm56.tk ; then I have tried to install the driver with the make install command and i get a success message as follows -->> http://pastebot.nd.edu/913 ; i check in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ and  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/ and in both areas i find sm56 exists ; now i run "sudo modprobe sm56" at the command prompt and it fails ; the ins05:45
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ximHrdwrBoB, what's the benifit over VNC or X11?05:45
renbolicious```somebody willing to defend his case?05:45
chocoIatethe file that runs as i hit the make install is here --->> http://pastebot.nd.edu/91205:45
chocoIateanybody :o05:46
HrdwrBoBxim: it's about (according to my seat-of-the-pants measurement) a hojillion times faster05:46
HrdwrBoBI'm using it over an ADSL link05:46
HrdwrBoBit feels no slower than using the local machine for web browsing05:46
firasRnanomad:  ur welcome :)05:46
ximchocoIate, what's the error message05:47
chocoIateeverytime i try to run 'modprobe sm56' i continue to get : FATAL: Module sm56 not found.05:47
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chocoIatebut its there05:47
chocoIateeven when pointing to the file directly and it chokes with the same error message05:48
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ximchocoIate, run "depmod -a" as root05:48
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chocoIateand then :o05:48
chocoIatewhat is that supposed to do by the way depmod -a05:48
bluefoxicylol05:48
chocoIatehi bluefoxicy :P05:49
chocoIatei'm a noob, didnt mean to make a fool of myself :">05:49
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ximchocoIate, man depmod ; )05:49
PoWeRoFHaCkErHi i wanna got LiNuX and be a hacker, a site to learn how broke pc when u use LiNuX05:50
bluefoxicyI'm going to go onto the openoffice.org bugzilla05:50
bluefoxicyand make 600 bug reports05:50
ximchocoIate, depmod -a rebuild the list of available modules. modprobe needs an up-to-date list05:50
bluefoxicyone for each individual element of a 40 page word document that doesn't display right.05:50
ximPoWeRoFHaCkEr, rofl05:50
space_oddityPoWeRoFHaCkEr, google :-)05:50
chocoIatewell, i guess what i wanted to ask originally is ; is depmod -a all i need to do or would i need to modprobe sm56 after depmod -a05:50
bluefoxicyBecause I submitted a bug about "MS Word import filter problems"05:50
bluefoxicyand they closed it05:50
bluefoxicysaying "Invalid:  One problem per issue"05:50
ximchocoIate, you need to modprobe after depmod05:51
bluefoxicyI thin kthe problem is pretty clear:  THE MS WORD FILTER IS BROKEN05:51
chocoIateok, thanks05:51
chocoIatei'll be back05:51
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chocoIatethis is a bit crazy since i need to reboot again, load ubuntu and try the command, and as always it might not work and then boot out again and come back and cry in here till someone hears me :P05:51
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digip1mpPoWeRoFHaCkEr: the best hacking computers are Atari 2600's.  Until you own one of these goverment supercomputers, you'll never be a respected hacker...05:52
chocoIatebrb05:52
ximchocoIate, you need to do this work with a second computer near you, it's gonna05:52
ximchocoIate, easier...05:52
chocoIateoh well, wish i had a second pc :P05:53
ximPoWeRoFHaCkEr, try to hack 127.0.0.1, it should be an easy target to begin with05:53
chocoIatebrb05:53
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RashHey guys, I just want to know what is the superuser password on Hoary Live DVD AMD64?05:54
alexandrehi05:54
sigaspreme05:54
jansenRash are u here?05:54
RashYEs05:54
alexandresalut05:55
Rashsalut05:55
RashOK, be right back.05:55
jansenRash plz use the common user05:55
RashI wanted to install something that needs the su05:55
alexandrei'm looking for a good gnome IRC client (not xchat)05:55
jansentype su passwd root,then u can set the password for root05:55
jansenRash  type su passwd root,then u can set the password for root05:56
RashThank you very much. :)05:56
jansenalexandre are u russian?05:56
ximalexandre, freshmeat.net05:56
sigalexandre: irssi05:56
jansenRash where are u from?05:56
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ximrash is brazilian, alexandre is french05:57
jansenxim where are u?05:57
ximin front of my computer05:57
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x_or When I do a shutdown, it sends a message to all consoles.  How do I send a message to every console in the same way?05:57
ikasamaNoob question: is there a way to change my screen resolution to above 1024 x 768 without manualy editing any files?05:57
ximin montreal05:57
SeveasRash, setting a superuser password in a livedvd is useless...05:58
alexandretesting gaim...05:58
jansenxim alexandre like the russian name05:58
{Seb}hey all05:58
{Seb}weried question05:58
jansen{Seb} hi05:58
{Seb}hey jansen05:58
{Seb}anyway05:58
alexandrejansen, not, in fact my grand-parents were greeks, so alexandre i smore like a greeek name :)05:58
{Seb}on my desktop, my usb memory stick is recongised and moutned05:58
{Seb}by my cardreader isn't05:58
alexandrexim how do u know my nationality?05:58
{Seb}any ideas why?05:59
jansenalexandre it's so cool05:59
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xim /whois alexandre05:59
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yhonatanamm hello05:59
ximbrb, moving...05:59
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x_orHow do I send a message to all consoles in a way similar to what happens when I run shutdown or reboot?05:59
PoWeRoFHaCkErWho snort cocaine05:59
yhonatansome one can give the official ubuntu archive?05:59
sebas_1seb is it in the bootlist?06:00
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Seveasarchive.ubuntu.com06:00
homhi06:00
PoWeRoFHaCkErWho snort cocaine06:00
{Seb}dunno06:00
jansenPoWeRoFHaCkEr what happened?06:00
yhonatanok06:00
yhonatan10x:)06:00
{Seb}i get this dodgy kernel error06:00
homcan i use linuxant drivers06:00
Seveashom, sure06:00
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homwithout any harddisk installation06:00
sebas_1can you check if yoy missed uninstalling older versions06:00
jansenyhonatan from isral06:00
sebas_1installing new versions over older is a known linux problem06:01
{Seb}can't find the error06:01
{Seb}any ideas why?06:01
Seveashom, hmm, that's more difficult06:01
{Seb}could it be the chipset06:01
homhow difficult06:01
PoWeRoFHaCkEri heard about LINUS TORVALD SNORT COCAINE !06:01
guupstaomg06:02
jansennothing06:02
SeveasPoWeRoFHaCkEr, stop it please...06:02
housetierthats not even worth raising an eyebrow06:02
yhonatanann06:02
jansenit's his business06:02
homthere is no linux livecd that i can compile drivers on06:03
Seveashom, you could try creating a custom livecd :)06:03
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PoWeRoFHaCkErhom: ask linus to stop cocaine for two day, and write a distrib for you06:03
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housetierhom I used a live cd built system once, it allowed to create custom live cds. well more like rescue cds but anyway... lets see if I can dig up an url for you06:04
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Seveashousetier, the Ubuntu livecd can easily be customized too06:05
Seveasthere are instructioins in the wiki06:05
PoWeRoFHaCkErseveas ok i stop now06:05
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housetierhom the system I used back then was this: http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/06:08
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jamesiodoes anyone here use xchat?06:09
we2by<-- he is06:09
sebas_1do two06:10
jamesiowhat are the two lines under the userlist box for?06:10
we2bylag and ...?06:10
jamesiothe top bar is about 3% filled in06:10
housetierlag meter and throttle meter06:11
jamesiook, thanks06:11
housetierhow much you lag, how much data you are sending per second or so06:11
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we2byI hope you have short lag bar06:11
we2by;)06:11
housetier[18:12:01] --- Ping reply from housetier : 641.11 second(s)06:11
Seveasoops06:11
Seveas:)06:11
jamesiothe top one is almost empty06:11
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jamesioand the bottom bar is empty06:12
Seveasjamesio, that's normal06:12
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jamesiosev, figured... once I knew what they were used for06:12
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blackMOOREi need some help with pppd/pon06:13
blackMOOREheres the plog06:13
jamesioI don't know if I have the right to be in here.... hehe.  I took down my win2k server, replaced it with ubuntu, didn't like it too much for a server, erased that and make it a freebsd server06:13
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ZbergKHello06:13
Seveasjamesio, eek :p06:13
blackMOORE#plog06:13
blackMOOREMay 20 03:56:19 localhost chat[8260] :  -- got it06:13
sri_I dist-upgraded in breezy! And gdm/X is not starting. It says 'fixed' font missing .. font path changed .. something like that06:14
blackMOOREMay 20 03:56:19 localhost chat[8260] : send (ATDT0101325^M)06:14
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sri_did anyone else face this problem?06:14
blackMOOREMay 20 03:56:19 localhost chat[8260] : expect (CONNECT)06:14
Seveassri_, read the topic06:14
blackMOOREMay 20 03:56:19 localhost chat[8260] : ^M06:14
SeveasblackMOORE, NO PASTING in here please06:14
Seveasuse a pastebin06:14
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sri_Seveas sorry, i am already at breezy .. using it for past week06:14
SeveasX is very unstable on breezy now06:14
Seveasas well as other things06:15
sri_Seveas is it true that we should wait for a month of 2 before switching to it?06:15
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Seveassri_, absolutely06:15
sri_Seveas it's already a month06:15
Seveassri_, a month or two from now on i mean06:15
jamesioSeveas, although... I made my 2 laptops ubuntu and am dual-booting my desktop with xp06:15
sri_Seveas ok ... so now I can change breezy to hoary in my sources.list .. and do apt-get dist-upgrade?06:15
sri_is that enough?06:15
Seveassri_, no06:15
sri_Seveas what should I do now?06:16
Seveasdowngrading is not easy (impossible even)06:16
sri_oh06:16
sri_!06:16
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Seveasreinstalling hoary would be the best option. The other is to become a linux expert and fix all breezy-related errors06:16
sri_ok .. so now has anyone got a solution for this font error in X?06:16
jamesioSeveas, I heard that "(impossible even)" in a cartoon voice06:16
blackMOOREhow do i stop May 20 03:56:24 localhost chat[8260] : Failed (NO DIALTONE)06:16
sri_btw, i have only one VC .. ctrl+alt+2 .. doesn't show another06:17
jamesiocan't remember the character's name though...06:17
Seveaselmer fudd?06:17
blackMOOREhow do i stop my modem looking for dialtone ? ?06:17
jamesiono0tic, he was a tiger06:17
jamesioor puma06:17
SeveasblackMOORE, by giving it one?06:17
sri_! only one console .. brb06:17
Seveastigger from pooh?06:17
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jamesioSeveas, I'll google it...06:17
xiaogilThe cd-rom drive is on /dev/hd_what  ?06:18
blackMOOREhow do i do that Seveas ?06:18
Seveasxiaogil, usually /dev/hdc06:18
Seveasbut that completely depends on your system06:18
IFRFLYRHrdwrBob,  and sig, I looked back and saw what you reacted to. I was *trying* to say that I didn't like using *MY* gentoo machine as a desktop, but rather it was best for MY server, while Ubuntu was FOR ME best for my notebook as a desktop. Apologies. I certainly didn't mean to disparage Ubuntu's abilities. :)06:18
SeveasblackMOORE, by plugging a decent and working telephone cable in the modem...06:19
xiaogilSeveas: how to know ? Actually, it's to use a soft with wine that I ask06:19
blackMOORESeveas i have all the things ok .. it works under windows but under linux it says "no dialtone"06:19
Seveasxiaogil, /dev/cd is usually symlinked to the correct device so use that06:20
blackMOOREim using the same line+modem+isp from windows right now Seveas06:20
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jamesioSeveas, Snagglepuss was the character's name06:21
Seveasjamesio, any link?06:21
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stephan_hi @all06:22
RashSorry, I had to leave for a while. I am from Sao Paulo, Brazil.06:22
jamesioSeveas, funny thing... I can't find any good links to audio files to let you know the voice06:23
RashSeveas, why setting a password is useless?06:23
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blackMOOREdialerw works under windows but under linux it says "no dialtone" im using the same line+modem+isp from windows right now <> so my hardwares are ok06:24
blackMOOREwhat do i do ? how to make pppd stop looking for dialtone ?06:25
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jamesioSeveas, http://www.the-earchives.com/scripts/detail.asp?queryby=list&movie_title=Snagglepuss06:26
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rhymesany emacs hacker here? i have a problem with t-gnus/emacs with ubuntu breezy. when i load gnus it says "gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version 0. Stop gnus, manually evaluate gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then restart gnus"06:26
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ximow, firefox is crashing a lot today06:27
we2byworse than IE?06:27
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ximdunno, never used IE for a long time, windowsupdate only, and ie3 on a mac ;)06:28
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ximrhymes, read the topic ; )06:28
sri_ah! I have 2 X11 fonts directories06:29
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sebas_1ayone on frames that are to big06:29
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ximsebas_1, i missed your question06:30
sebas_1xim all my frames are oversized06:30
sebas_1xim minimizing soesn't help06:30
we2byseb128, get a bigger monitor?06:31
ximsebas_1, what are you trying, which commands/operations are you doing?06:31
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sri_oo! anyone else fixed the X start error (font)?06:31
ximsebas_1, is it a network problem, or an application window size problem?06:31
sebas_1when running any program like a browser the frames it make don't fit the screen it looks like it is set in a very enhanced mode or so06:32
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sebas_1xim an application size problem06:32
ximsebas_1, is it happening with every applications?06:32
ximsebas_1, which one did you tried?06:32
sebas_1xim not with tv or kuickview dia06:32
ximsebas_1, which ones are problematic?06:33
sebas_1the option full screen works perfect06:33
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sebas_1all applications that work in a frame06:33
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ximsebas_1, in a frame? what do you call a frame?06:34
ximsebas_1, ones with a window border?06:34
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sebas_1the frame that has the close minimize and max... buttons usually righthand top06:35
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ximsebas_1, hit "Alt-F2" and type "xterm" then click OK. Is this window oversized?06:35
sebas_1window is another word for frames but is mixes me up06:35
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ximsebas_1, does it was working at some point, then stopped to work correctly?06:36
sebas_1window is a program or O.S. of some sort06:36
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sebas_1xim the suse-9.1 on the second partition does noet have this problem06:36
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sebas_1xim the screen looks like it it set for someone with readingdisabbility06:37
ximsebas_1, please answer my other questions (xterm, appearance of the problem)06:37
spo0nmanhas anyone managed to get belkin f5d7010 wireless card working?06:38
ximsebas_1, go in "System", Preferences, "Assistive Technology Preferences". Does "Enable assistive technologies" is checked?06:38
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sebas_1xim this starts a regular size X-terminal06:39
phxguyanyone familiar with Xnest06:39
ximsebas_1, good06:39
Seveasphxguy, i am06:39
phxguyHow do I get it to work Seveas06:39
Seveasapplications -> system tools -> new login in a nested window06:40
sebas_1xim I said it fits the screen it is still way oversized the lettersize fits a newspaperfront06:40
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dabaSlonwell, font size can be adjusted...06:41
dabaSlonor is it the resolutions that is weird./.06:41
dabaSlongo check that in System, Prefs, Screen Res,.06:41
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sri_success!! i overcome the 'fixed' font not found X11 error!06:42
sri_:)06:42
sebas_1using 640*48006:42
sri_c ya06:42
phxguySeveas: I dont seem to have anything in my applications menu06:43
Seveasphxguy, then you need to do "apt-get install xnest" first06:43
dabaSlonis that too small a resolution for your objects on the screen to look normal?06:43
phxguyIve already installed it through synaptic06:43
dabaSlonSeveas: hi, are you just trying to get him to open a new login?06:44
dabaSlonSeveas: or is it soemthing different?06:44
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SeveasdabaSlon, no, he wants to use xnest06:44
dabaSlonIll go see what it is.06:44
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dabaSlonsebas^ need higher resolution?06:44
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Echelon-His there an official ICQ for linux?06:44
Seveasphxguy, does Xnest :1 give you an ugly X screen?06:45
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phxguySeveas: let me try... it it does how do I get back here06:45
dabaSlonEchelon-H: um...gaim works if you are already registered.06:45
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Seveasphxguy, try: gdmflexiserver --xnest06:45
ximi'm used to epic and i'm now in xchat. What are those two lines below the channel user list?06:45
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sebas_1xim they show datatransfer activity06:46
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dabaSlonEchelon-H: there is an ICQ client as well, just for icq, but gaim work for multiple protocols, and isjust one prograqm...06:46
phxguyWhen I type Xnest:1 I get command not found06:47
dabaSlonsebas, did you figure that out?06:47
larsrohdinhi, im trying to install ubuntu on my 233 mhz machine. how can I install without gnome06:47
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dabaSlonbvrb06:47
Seveasphxguy, that was Xnest :1 (with a space) but the correct way to start it is: gdmflexiserver --xnest06:47
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sebas_1dabaSlon no just remembered06:47
phxguyServer is already active for display 006:47
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Seveasphxguy, with gdmflexiserver?06:48
danko123456phxguy: you installed xnest, and did you restart your gnome-panel?06:48
larsrohdinsomeone told me just to type "server" at boot, but that command was not found...06:48
sebas_1why can't I remember how to set frame-rates or whatever you call it (please not a Wondow)06:48
michel_what someone know kylix3?06:48
danko123456it is in Apps>Sys Tools.06:48
phxguySeveas: Sorry Im Using Kubuntu with KDE and KDM06:49
danko123456larsrohdin: for an "expert" install?06:49
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larsrohdindanko123456, i want to install everything exept gnome06:49
Seveasah ok06:49
ska-fanHow do I import a key that was used to sign packages?06:49
Seveasdon't know about that, sorry06:50
Seveasska-fan, apt-key06:50
danko123456larsrohdin: that may well be an expert install, dunno...06:50
Seveasska-fan, was it marillat?06:50
danko123456phxguy: so you need the comman for starting it basically?06:50
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larsrohdindanko123456, no other ideas06:50
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phxguydanko123456: yup thats pretty much it06:50
ska-fanSeveas: no, cipherpunk06:51
Seveasah ok06:51
Seveasdo you know its key id?06:51
Seveasor dou you have it in a file?06:51
ska-fancipherfunk06:51
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klaashi all06:51
ska-fanSeveas: No, I'll just import it :)06:51
klaasi've got a problem06:51
klaaswhen i installed codecs to play .wmv, everything worked06:52
klaastill now06:52
klaaswhen i try to open a .wmv file, i'm receiving strange sounds06:52
klaasand if i try to open anoher file, the sound is normal06:52
Seveasska-fan, then do gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv_keys THE_KEY_ID && gpg --export --armor THE_KEY_ID | sudo apt-key add /proc/self/fd/006:53
klaasbut on some files, i hear nothing, suddenly a sharp tone, than nothing again ..06:53
kestaskestas@kestaspc:~$ sudo apt-key add Release.gpg06:53
kestasgpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.06:53
kestaswhats up with that?06:53
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kestasRelease.gpg seems to have GnuGPG in it06:53
Seveaskestas, apt-key is for adding keys, not for handling the .gpg files...06:53
kestasSeveas: how do you add keys?06:53
kestaswhere do you get them from rather?06:53
danko123456phxguy: yeah, not easy to find...there is a man xnest...read it?06:54
Seveaskestas, once you know the id you do: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv_keys THE_KEY_ID && gpg --export --armor THE_KEY_ID | sudo apt-key add /proc/self/fd/006:54
kestasgood grief06:54
sebas_1what is the window-manager for ubuntu06:55
kestaswhy /proc/self/fd/0?06:55
kestasisnt that floppy disk drive stuff?06:55
Seveasbecause apt-key can only handle files06:55
Seveasthis is a cheat to make it use stdin06:55
IIIEarsnautilus?06:55
tsumesebas_1: the default desktop for ubuntu is crappy Gnome06:55
kestasah I see06:55
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danko123456phxguy: gdmflexiserver --xnest .06:55
danko123456:)06:55
Seveasdanko123456, he uses kde...06:55
tsumesebas_1: you might want to use kubuntu, as its more advanced than gnome06:55
danko123456so?06:55
IIIEarskonquerer?06:55
Seveaswe reached that command a few minutes ago already06:55
lotusleafI installed KDE on ubuntu and fluxbox ;)06:56
Seveasdanko123456, so he does not have gsm installed06:56
danko123456he may as well us that comand. not gonna do any harm.06:56
Seveasgdm*06:56
phxguyalready tried it -> command not found06:56
IIIEarsokay06:56
danko123456Seveas: you had that command on screen??:)06:56
sebas_1using ubuntu and suse 9-106:56
phxguyi get this error06:56
phxguyFatal server error:06:56
phxguyServer is already active for display 006:56
phxguy        If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock06:56
phxguy        and start again.06:56
IIIEarssuse - heh - nothing recobnized at boot up - not even simple things like network cards.06:57
Seveasdanko123456, i typed it twice in the channel already :)06:57
sebas_1IIIEars thats why ubuntu06:57
kestasokay thanks Seveas06:57
sebas_1tv works; printer works only all the windows are oversize06:58
IIIEarssebas_1 "Oversize? = 640x480?06:59
sebas_1suse is nice but way over my head in devellopments06:59
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ximsebas_1, try this: 1) quit firefox; 2) start firefox; 3) resize the window to a proper size; 4) quit firefox; 5) start firefox; 6) tell us what happened06:59
sebas_1IIIEars setting the onboard card doesnot affect the windowsize07:00
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danko123456seveas:)...anyhow, well, maybe the equivalent of gdmflexiserver in kde.07:00
Tron|BoRGHeyy07:00
IIIEarsUbuntu doesn't support Intel video i810 very well... If it did my wife would be using Ubuntu07:00
sebas_1IIIEars the windowsize is determined by the framerate (check suse if you want to it works on there desktop)07:00
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Lariusok, i won't use breezy...07:01
Tron|BoRGbreezy badger07:01
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Lariusi was in the middle of the download07:01
danko123456Seveas: isnt gdm the whole login screen? Does Kubuntu not have gdm?07:01
phxguydanko123456: Kubuntu uses KDM07:01
Lariusanyone know why not use breezy?07:01
ximLarius, it's in developpement, so packages can be quite buggy or inconsistent07:02
Lariusthx xim07:02
IIIEarsKonquerer is the only thing i miss that is KDE07:03
Iljitji want opera bit when i print apt-get install opera in a terminal it says that the package could not be found07:03
phxguyOkat Somethings gone screwy now with my system Need to reboot07:03
ximsebas_1, so the problem is the font size, not the window size?07:04
danko123456phxguy: :)07:04
IIIEarsOpera isn't open source is it?07:04
spo0nmanIIIEars, NO07:04
ximIIIEars, no it's not07:04
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Lariuscan i get in iso using bittorrent?07:04
IIIEarsthen i'll pass on it. - lol07:04
Lariuss/in/an07:04
ximFLOSS don't put ads in front of users07:04
sebas_1xim maybe the fontsize07:04
danko123451this xnest is pretty cool./07:04
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danko123456yes, danko123451, it sure is...07:05
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ximsebas_1, did you tried to reduce your font size in System->Preferences->Fonts ?07:05
Lariusnm i think i found it07:05
Iljitjso you cant get opera by printing apt-get.....07:05
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athlonI'm following the instructions in : LAMP for Hoary Hedgehog Wiki. I am having problem because php4 doesnt have mysql support compiled in ? which php4 package do I have to install in order to get mysql support ?07:05
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ximsebas_1, size should be something like 8,9, 10, 12 or so.07:06
sammy_hi!07:06
ximathlon, in synaptic, search for php, then scroll to find the one with mysql07:07
athlonokay, thanks07:07
sammy_how  change the monitor resolution!?07:07
sebas_1xim trying now07:07
sebas_1sammy monitor resolution determines the number of outgoing lines07:08
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danko123456heh, there is one right thre in synaptic, php4-mysql07:08
IIIEarssammy_ - does the control panel offer to few resolution choices?07:08
danko123456sammy_: what is your graphics card, is it an on board one?07:08
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sebas_1sammy if i turn them lower the screen shrinks leaving a black rim where it has no information07:08
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sammy_ati radeoon07:08
danko123456then xconf?07:09
danko123456I dont know, thankfully I have an on board:)07:09
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teknoprepeh07:09
IIIEarsNvidia - no problems knock on wood (taps forehead)07:09
teknoprepyou guys having a probelem with radeon drivers07:09
danko123456IIIEars: :)07:10
teknoprep<--- fglrx configuration masta lol07:10
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danko123456not really, it is just more involved...to change the resolution, care to explain sammy how to change it?07:10
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sammy_where is xconf ?!07:10
ximfglrxconfig is a fine piece of software07:10
teknoprephave gotten it to work on alot of distro's with alot of kernels07:10
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teknoprepxim its a script07:10
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sebas_1xim the fonts are better but the windows still to big07:11
danko123456teknoprep: go ahead, tell sammy_ how to change the screen resolution.07:11
IIIEarsxim - how do you invoke the command for fglrxconfig?07:11
teknoprepyou mean add resolutions to his xorg.conf so he can change resolutions07:11
ximsebas_1, it's hard to see the problem you have, can you put a screenshot on a web site?07:11
danko123456xim, sebas_1, your resolution is 640x480, hello...?07:11
sebas_1xim the buttons down below like accept and close don't show07:12
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pinPointwhats the best way to add a new user?07:12
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ximpinPoint, adduser07:12
IIIEarsto reconfigure xorg -  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:12
danko123456pinPoint: Systtem menu>Administration>Users and Groups07:12
pinPointterminal online07:12
ximIIIEars, don't use fglrxconfig, it's a piece of ****07:12
pinPointonly*07:12
Lariuswill 120M ram be enough for hoary?07:12
sebas_1xim 1024*1028 is possible but I already downgraded it using sudo dpkg.......xserver-xorg07:13
danko123456well, then, sudo adduser usah07:13
teknoprepLOL07:13
teknoprep1280x102407:13
teknoprepoh you atlking about size07:13
danko123456mine is set to that too I think.07:13
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danko123456teknoprep: sebas' screen resolution is too low, and he is changing fonts to make them smaller:)07:14
teknoprepLOL07:14
ximmine is 1400x105007:14
teknoprepthis is fucking great07:14
teknoprepsame here xim07:14
teknoprepyou on a laptop07:14
ximyep07:14
danko123456weird, thats a wide screen res, prob.07:14
teknoprepwww.ecsusa.com/g73607:14
teknoprepwww.ecsusa.com/g736.htm07:14
teknoprep1280x728 i think07:14
sebas_1teknprep you are right its 1280*1024 but working it down doesnot affect the windowsizes07:14
ximnope, 4/3, 16/907:14
danko123456http://www.ecsusa.com/g736.html07:14
IIIEarsI am always curious about different apps. The wisdom and experience of Ubuntu developers has saved me from a lot of pain. - tried installing FreeBSD a few weeks ago - needed an entire bottle of aspirin. - lol07:14
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danko123456sebas, then what does it affect?07:15
teknoprepif you use 1280x1024 on an LCD that wants to run at 1400x1050 its going to look like shit07:15
IIIEarsLCD - "Native" resolution trouble. - CRTs are best for now.07:15
teknoprepbleh07:15
danko123456yeah, well, its a totally diff like, group of res's one is a wide, one a normal screen res...07:16
teknoprepLCD's own you07:16
teknoprepcontrast is awesome on them07:16
sebas_1the splash: 1280*1024 uses the entire screen others either oversize or leave a black rim07:16
teknoprepthye are so sharp07:16
Tron|BoRGteknoprep: snap07:16
Tron|BoRGdamn nice, i agree :D07:16
teknoprepshooting electron's at a screen aimed at your face, i am not a big fan of that07:16
ximCRT still have better image07:16
danko123456sebas, told you, everythinjg looks bigger with a small resolution, I think you should just change that.07:16
teknoprepxim not true07:16
Tron|BoRG1400x1050 owns all07:16
IIIEarsGaming is still a bit better on CRTs - they don't bloom or glow.07:16
teknoprepyup07:16
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teknoprepTron|BoRG, did you check out my laptop.. i have this model in black... www.ecsusa.com/g736.html07:17
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E0xhello07:17
teknoprepvery nice laptop.. very nice running for linux07:17
Tron|BoRGok, i'll have a look07:17
danko123456well, it has a p4...:-p07:18
teknoprephehe07:18
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pinPointhow do i lock a user from gaining terminal access07:18
pinPointjust want them to ftp alone07:18
teknoprepp4 2.8ghz 800mhz fsb HT 1GB L2 cache ... 2gb ddr40007:18
ximi like LCD for low size, low weight and low heat, but not for low price  or for nice picture07:18
teknoprepxim07:18
teknoprep?07:18
teknoprepi got my 19 inch for 27907:18
xim.. "ECS recommends Microsoft Windows XP Professional"07:18
ximlol07:18
teknopreplol xim07:18
teknoprepfuck ECS and what they recomend07:19
ximhard to find a vendor without a twisted arm07:19
sebas_1xi m i'll try and set the 1280*1024 back since this works for suse07:19
teknoprepyou have to buy the parts when you get one of those07:19
teknoprepsebas_1, wtf07:19
IIIEarsCRTs aren't very good if you like them on all the time they use a lot of juice.07:19
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Tron|BoRGteknoprep: pretty bad ass top07:19
teknoprepty07:19
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E0xi have a nvidia 6600GT and yerterday i install ubuntu hoary everything is ok ( the install process ) but i have problem with X , i see the nvidia module are present in the system and i load it ( modprobe nvidia ) and lsmod confirm that , i edit the xorg.conf file and put Driver "nvidia" , but when X start say him can't find the module nvidia07:19
E0xanyidea ?07:19
danko123456teknoprep: , what does sebas wtf mean?07:19
Tron|BoRGwhat the f***07:20
Tron|BoRG:P07:20
teknoprepdanko123456, dunno.. nick completion sucks07:20
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teknoprepf*** i thought it meant fuck07:20
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Tron|BoRGyeah it does07:21
IIIEarsE0x - I added the binary driver provided on the nvidia site immediately - glxgears screams games play very well07:21
my__hazi need to look at retrieve the content of a file.iso how can i do that in command line07:21
ximmy__haz, mount -o loop,ro /path/to/isofile.iso /mnt/iso07:21
ximmy__haz, /mnt/iso have to exists07:22
my__hazthank you have very much07:22
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my__hazi understand thank you07:22
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E0xIIIEars i have the source in other thing , but  ubuntu dont come with the kernel source for compile a new nvidia driver :(07:23
sebas_1back  here07:23
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danko123456teknoprep: http://www.mts.net/~danb/dscn0142.jpg thats mine:-p07:23
sebas_1teknoprep back  here07:23
my__hazxim, what does the ro do?07:23
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omV0i'm trying to get my scanner to work. it's supported by the snapscan backend in sane. but when i try to scan an image i get07:24
ximmy__haz, readonly07:24
omV0scanimage: open of device snapscan:libusb:002:006 failed: Error during device I/O07:24
danko123456teknoprep: not very nice running for linux...07:24
IIIEarsbuild essentials and kernal files are in synaptic.07:24
teknoprepLOL07:25
E0xIIIEars no internet at home :(07:25
teknoprephe sent me a picture of his laptop07:25
teknoprepnice laptop danko12345607:25
danko123456tenks07:25
sebas_1how do i resize the icons of the desktop?07:25
teknoprepyou running panther07:25
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my__hazxim, then if i want to umount then i just `umount ~/iso/`07:25
teknoprepos x 10.4 ?07:25
danko123456yup, i didnt send you a picture, I gave you a link to it.07:25
danko123456not sure, wanst it .307:25
danko123456?07:26
IIIEarsOuch - Does anyone know if the build essentials and kernal headers are part of the Ubuntu add-ons iso file?07:26
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danko123456I could not care less what they call it:)07:26
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danko123456IIIEars: jiyuu0 sure must know.07:26
xml-bloghi folks, anyone had much success getting mythtv running on hoary?07:26
sebas_1teknoprep how do i resize the icons of the desktop?07:26
pinPointhow do you check who's connected on ftp and how fast its going?07:26
E0xIIIEars i looking in the cd with apt and dont see anything07:26
pinPointusing vsftpd07:26
E0x:(07:26
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teknopreparmyops here we come07:27
IIIEarsE0x - the "Add-ons" iso?07:27
sebas_1teknoprep how do i resize the icons of the desktop? they are to big as well07:27
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jiyuu0IIIEars, build essentials is in the add-on-cd07:27
E0xoh07:27
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E0xanother iso ? IIIEars ?07:27
danko123456oooh...he magically appears:)07:27
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teknoprepsebas_1, what07:28
jiyuu0danko123456, cause i heard the beep sound07:28
teknoprepsebas_1, figure it out man07:28
jpfariashow often is ubuntu packages updated?07:28
jiyuu0IIIEars, packages list http://ubuntuguide.org/add-on-cd/add-on-cd-2005-05-0807:28
danko123456from me putting your nick in the sentence?07:28
jiyuu0yes07:28
IIIEarsobviously it isn't going to help E0x right now if he doesn't have the iso - yep amazing isn't it07:28
teknoprepsebas_1, on your journey in figuring it out.. you may figure out some other stuff in the process07:28
danko123456jiyuu0: how do you set that up? with gaim?07:28
jpfariasI found mozilla-firefox is at 1.0.5 and still 1.0.2 on unbutu...07:28
jiyuu0in xchat u can set beep sound07:29
jiyuu0i configure the sound to be the gaim sound07:29
teknoprepno thats just the preconfigured binary07:29
Lafitte-anyone know how to open a bach prompt that will show output from running programs ?07:29
danko123456teknoprep: you are weird:) but whatever...07:29
jiyuu0so when u put me in the sentence... i get the beep sound07:29
teknoprepyou can download the tar.gz and compile it youreslf07:29
KpjasHi ppl I'm all black and blue after a fresh 5.04 install - nothing works07:29
teknoprepdanko123456, ty07:29
IIIEarsThank You for the link. .)07:29
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xMaximexwhat is vino-server and pickup ?? can i kill and remove those package ?07:29
Tron|BoRGKpjas: whys that?07:29
danko123456kk, Kpjas, like what?07:29
Tron|BoRGlol07:29
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Kpjasnet is working after all07:30
E0xanyway thx07:30
moquist_how can I tell which repository a package comes from?07:30
KpjasI have an empty desktop07:30
danko123456Kpjas: doesnt it come empty?07:30
KpjasI expected to have a home icone07:30
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sebas_1how do I change desktopsettings?07:30
danko123456put one there, its easy. You can go into Apps> System TOols> COnf editor.07:31
IIIEarsstill amazed by how much you can do with two ubuntu CDs compared to how little i couuld do with Fedora Core's four CDs - lol07:31
danko123456sebas, you too, that is where you can look.07:31
moquist_Kpjas: you have a menu instead of an icon.07:31
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Kpjasscroll mouse doesn't work it hurts07:31
lotusleafIIIEars, I'm doing more with my ubuntu CD and synaptic than I did with SUSE on DVD with YaST07:32
Kpjasubuntu is not good at recognizing gfx cards07:32
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Tallia1hi guuys........07:32
Tallia1i've a fast problem to solve......07:32
Lafitte-Kpjas,  you hate ubuntu dont you07:32
Tallia1java ........07:32
KpjasLafitte-: Ilove it07:32
bravoedit xorg.conf   "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" under mouse stuff07:33
Tallia1i've setted the classpath into the /usr/profile..07:33
Lafitte-Kpjas,  hehe   me too07:33
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Tallia1now i can run it from the terminal07:33
KpjasLafitte-: I'm still trying to make it usable07:33
pinPointanyone mind telling me?07:33
Lafitte-Kpjas,  my scroll worked     the icon for home is under places07:33
pinPointwhere and how you can check ftp connections07:33
Lafitte-Kpjas,  what mouse you have ?07:34
Kpjassudo is a bit of a pain when you must edit a lot of things manually07:34
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bravoedit xorg.conf   "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" under mouse stuff07:34
Kpjascan I switch sudo perm ?07:34
danko123456Tallia1: any more info>?07:34
Lafitte-Kpjas,  run root terminall  then can forget sudo07:34
teknoprephi all, i love you07:34
teknoprepnever have i found more amusement durring work hours.. then listening to ppl talk here07:35
KpjasLafitte-: Logitech Pilot wheel mouse07:37
Lafitte-Kpjas,  have you went to ubuntuguide.org yet ?07:37
bravoedit xorg.conf  (add this)   "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" under mouse stuff07:37
lotusleaflol07:37
Cal[] JohnI'm getting this error when i try to download updates: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gzip_1.3.5-9ubuntu3.2_i386.deb:  malloc failed (2014345335 bytes): Cannot allocate memory" anyone know what's up?07:37
sebas_1do i have to reboot to have an affect for settings07:37
Seveasteknoprep, get to work you moron ;p07:37
moquistsebas_1: which settings?07:37
abarbacciaKpjas, try the command `sudo -s`07:37
sebas_1moquist reset to 1280*1024 lines on the screen07:37
Lafitte-Kpjas,  many fixes there   and can cut and paste07:38
Lafitte-Kpjas,  should just work from box07:38
teknoprepSeveas, lol07:38
danko123456Kpjas: sudo -s may give you a root login...07:38
Lafitte-Kpjas,  so thats odd07:38
bravocan anyone see me??07:38
Lafitte-Kpjas,  i use logitech notebook scroll mouse07:38
danko123456yup, we see you.07:38
Lafitte-bravo,  no07:38
moquistsebas_1: no.  just log out and log in again.07:38
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danko123456or restart x, with alt+ctrl+backspace07:38
teknoprepSeveas, i love sitting here07:38
KpjasLafitte-: really after install it was a disaster - X didn;t work etc etc07:38
bravoi'm unvisisbubble07:38
teknoprepmy ethernet card is running like shit07:38
danko123456bravo:)07:38
Ali_BabaThis channel is huge :)07:38
teknopreplol07:38
Seveaswooow07:38
Seveasnetsplit07:38
teknoprepwas huge07:38
Ali_Babalots of ubuntu people :)07:38
Lafitte-Kpjas,  wow   is all i can say   i installed it to three machines so far   and  they all worked on install07:38
danko123456wow07:38
E0xonly the choosen one stay07:39
E0x:D07:39
danko123456Seveas: wghat was that??07:39
teknoprepnetsplit07:39
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Seveasdanko123456, that happens sometimes, connection between two servers gets broken07:39
KpjasLafitte-: I'm not giving up :)07:39
danko123456ah. Thanks.07:39
pinPointwhats the latest unrar package?07:39
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Lafitte-Kpjas,   hehe   good   make sure you have newest one or somthing07:40
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Seveasunrar-nonfree is at 3.4.3-107:40
pinPointthanks07:41
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danko123456Kpjas: did you figure out how to add the icons to desktop? http://ubuntuguide.org/#showdesktopicons07:41
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teknoprepwb all07:41
danko123456:)07:41
teknoprepcrossoffice owns07:42
Ali_BabaDoes anyone know how i can get a penguin avatar.There is lots of same looking penguin avatars in ubuntu forums :)07:42
KpjasOK leave you for now, to try out sth. BRB07:42
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sebas_1teknoprep no effect07:42
Cal[] JohnI'm getting this error when i try to download updates: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gzip_1.3.5-9ubuntu3.2_i386.deb:  malloc failed (2014345335 bytes): Cannot allocate memory" anyone know what's up?07:42
teknoprepsebas_1, what07:43
Ali_Babais there some site where you can make your own penguin avatar?07:43
sebas_1teknoprep 1280*1024 gives the same results07:43
teknoprepas what07:43
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teknoprepwhat resolution is your monitor supposed to be run at07:43
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teknoprepsebas_1, do you know?07:43
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teknoprepsebas_1, wtf.. man... is it a 1400x1050 resolution lapotp.. what07:43
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danko123456teknoprep: youre a little inpatient, arent you:-p07:44
danko123456m07:44
teknoprepdanko123456, lol07:44
teknoprepdanko123456, now how can you tell that07:44
danko123456give him a sec to rtfm:)07:44
sebas_1the lower rate07:44
FlorobCal[] John: maybe corrupt memory, or no more swap/RAM space?07:44
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teknoprepdanko123456, i hate helping ppl with VERY basic shit.. and they can't come up with a quick answer07:44
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teknoprepdanko123456, like the resolution of there monitor07:44
danko123456teknoprep: :)07:45
teknoprepdanko123456, should ppl use linux that do not know these basics07:45
sebas_1teknoprep 1280*1024 works with suse it it the resolution07:45
danko123456Cal[] John: hehe, a malloc error from apt?07:45
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teknoprepsebas_1, i am asking you the resolution that your monitor handles07:45
teknoprepsebas_1, you tell me this07:45
danko123456ha07:45
teknoprepsebas_1, what size is your monitor?07:45
teknoprepdanko123456, see what i mean07:46
teknoprepdanko123456, how long does it take to type in 15 17 19 2107:46
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danko123456you so funny.07:46
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sebas_1teknoprep 1280*102407:46
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sebas_1teknoprep 1280*1024 this setting works with suse07:46
Kpjasre07:46
danko123456ok, did you restart x at all, sebas?07:46
Kpjasscrolling now works thx ppl07:46
moquistI can see the phpmp package on machine A, but not on machine B.  Machines A and B have the same /etc/apt/sources.list and both have been apt-get updated.  What gives?07:46
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teknoprepdanko123456, HAHAHAH07:46
Cal[] JohnFlorob: it could be, but the system monitor shows that everything _looks_ fine, so im more inclinded to think otherwise07:46
danko123456Kpjas: excellent, what else?07:46
zygahello07:46
teknoprepseb128, what size is your monitor in inches07:46
Cal[] Johndank0123456: is that unusual?  or sarcasm?  or both?  ;)07:46
zygahow to check where was a bash variable defined?07:46
sebas_1teknoprep going to do so again07:46
teknoprepsebas_1, what size is your monitor in inches.. or in your case cock lengths07:46
zygafor example I have FOO=bar and I have no idea how it gets there07:47
danko123456I would say both, but not towards you, jsut funny apt would throw a malloc error...07:47
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danko123456teknoprep: haha...whats up?07:47
Kpjasdanko123456: I expect my gfx can can do better than now what is the tool to tweak settings ?07:47
danko123456zyga: some are assigned by bash at startup, why?07:47
teknoprepdanko123456, just the answers that sebas_1 gives07:47
zygadanko123456: I have http_proxy defined07:47
zygadanko123456: it's nowhere in my .bashrc nor .bash_profile07:48
zygadanko123456: I've grepped all over the place and now I'm just dumb07:48
FlorobCal[] John: well system monitor will not show corrupt ram, you could let memtest86 run and see what it says.07:48
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danko123456well, remove it,07:48
danko123456Florob:  you think that is why07:48
danko123456?07:48
zygadanko123456: remove it from where ;-) I don't know where it gets defined07:48
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eliteforcehi07:48
danko123456well, remove it where you know you can define it, if yyou mind it.07:49
Cal[] JohnFlorob: ok, ill google for that and come back.  thankyou, you're much cooler than the debian guys :p07:49
danko123456yeaH, Im much cooler now then when I used to use Debian...07:49
Cal[] John;)07:49
zygadanko123456: anyway make has a way to tell where something originated $(orig) or something, I was wondering if bash has something similar07:49
danko123456perhaps07:49
Florobdanko123456: i think what is why?07:49
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eliteforceis it possible to create a list of links to all packages required for kubutu-desktop (my inet @ home is too slow, so i've got to download this stuff somwhere else)07:49
danko123456Florob: the faulty ram being the cause.07:50
Florobdanko123456: if it is faulty that is probable IMO, isn't it?07:50
danko123456yes, eliteforce, Ill get it for you.07:50
Cal[] Johni asked that question on their channel and i was seriously shouted down.  its just a simple question, and someone was helping me, but this other guy just wouldn't leave off with the caps07:50
danko123456yup07:50
danko123456I just didnt have a clue...07:50
eliteforcedanko123456: that would be very nice07:50
sebas_1teknoprep screen now much sharper like it should07:50
sebas_1teknoprep still very big windows07:51
teknoprepgotta love running internet explorer on linux.. does that make it safe then to not be hacked even when running internet explorer07:51
Tron|BoRGreally haha07:51
Tron|BoRGwhy not firefox?07:51
teknoprepsebas_1, you are not from the US or speak english natively sebas_1  do you07:51
teknoprepi have firefox also07:51
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pinPointhow do i deny shell access to a user only ftp07:51
eliteforcelol07:51
teknoprepbut some of my stuff at work needs IE only working stuff07:51
Tron|BoRGah right07:51
danko123456eliteforce: http://pastebin.com/28662607:51
SeveaspinPoint, create a virtual user in your ftp server07:52
teknopreplike m$hit visio07:52
sebas_1teknoprep yep i'am  dutch07:52
pinPoint??07:52
chethello everyone, could someone assist in 128 bit WEP setup please?07:52
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Florobteknoprep: you know what? I once had regedit running on linux, that was geeky07:52
pinPointi used to be able to do it in freebsd07:52
danko123456cal:)07:52
teknoprepsebas_1, its very hard to talk t you07:52
pinPoint/sbin/nologin07:52
teknopreplol florob07:52
danko123456hah, I hear only bad things of some of the #debian users07:52
danko123456is it here on freenode?07:52
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globuleHi :)07:53
sebas_1teknoprep are oversized windows so difficult a problem I just can't find the right menu07:53
teknoprepsebas_1, what do you mean oversized windows07:53
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teknoprepare the borders oversized07:53
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teknoprepare the windows bigger then the screen07:53
teknoprepis your head too small and you only think the windows are big07:53
teknoprepwtf does oversized windows mean07:54
danko123456haha07:54
sebas_1teknoprep the maximixe button does not work07:54
teknoprepwhy not07:54
eliteforcedanko123456: and where can i get this packages from without apt-get? i guess a hoary repository :)07:54
teknoprepsebas_1, i would suggest reinstalling07:54
teknoprepsebas_1, and untill you figure shit out07:54
rickardhello... I'm having problems getting my soundblaster card to work with ubuntu.... I have two soundcards and the other one works fine... the soundblaster card apperas in the mixer, but I can't get any sound... any ideas whan might be wrong?07:54
sebas_1teknoprep they are so big the bottompart disappears07:54
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teknoprepsebas_1, either skrew with stuff and not care what hapends... or don't skrew with stuff you don't know about07:54
teknoprepseb128, go reinstall07:54
teknoprepsebas_1, go reinstall07:55
teknoprepsebas_1, i am done now... you are frustrating me07:55
Cal[] Johnflorob: since apt-get doesn't work, im not really sure how to install this07:55
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Cal[] Johnflorob: sorry, im very new to linux, how to i get stuff to install?07:55
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danko123456rickard: what is the sound card?07:55
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danko123456Cal[] John: like what are you installing, the memory check thing?07:56
sebas_1teknoprep take care I sent a lot off teachers home07:56
rickardsoundblaster audigy 2 zs07:56
danko123456I knew it was an audigy07:56
gaston_how i make a boot disk for a computer without a hd07:56
rickarddanko123456,  problems with them?07:56
danko123456rickard, paste the output of amixer to http://pastebin.com , please.07:56
gaston_and witout a cdroom07:56
Cal[] Johnflorob: yeah, that07:56
danko123456rickard, no just a mixer tweak.07:56
sebas_1teknoprep will drop adressing you for a while; there is more to learn07:57
teknoprepsebas_1, you are an not able to speak english well enough to describe your problem with any relevance .. that is why i do not want to talk to you07:57
eliteforceis it possible to install kubuntu-desktop from a kubuntu cd?07:57
FlorobCal[] John: oh right that is a problem of course, well you could download it of the net and try "dpkg -i packetname", but that might not work either, so maybe your best bet is a liveCD with memtest86 (knoppix has it)07:57
danko123456rickard: unfortunately:( I am not the expert, but we may even get it to work, some ppl were able with just a few hints,.07:57
gaston_hhheweeeellllloooooooooooo07:57
teknoprephi07:57
sebas_1teknoprep can i sent screenpictures?07:58
danko123456sebas_1: whats up, so you changed your res to 1280*1024 and still same size on screen? where did you change it?07:58
rickarddanko123456, ok, I've pposted it07:58
danko123456tell me the URL./07:58
Cal[] Johnflorob: lol  packetname is the location?  or a particular file?07:58
teknoprepsebas_1, no you did not send me any yet.. are you asking if you can send them to me now, sure07:58
Florobthe .deb file07:58
rickarddanko123456, http://pastebin.com/28662907:58
Cal[] Johnflorob: i wanna try this before a 700mb+ dl ;)07:58
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danko123456sebas_1: put it on the web.07:59
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danko123456rickard: k, sec.07:59
sebas_1dankol with sudo dpkg etc. and app conf.tools07:59
haffeHello. Is there someway to enable plug&play for monitors under xorg? Ie automatic recognition of max refres etc.07:59
FlorobCal[] John: well, you could have had a liveCD around, or maybe a friend or something which has one.07:59
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Cal[] Johnflorob: actually, i dont know anyone who has another linux box08:00
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Cal[] Johnflorob: i don't know anyone how's even heard of it08:00
danko123456rickard: um...so, where is there no sound?08:00
sebas_1i've got a live install cd for x8608:00
danko123456like, in general, or you cant get it to use the audigy...?08:00
Cal[] Johnflorob: lol  bittorrent to the rescue :D08:00
rickarddanko123456, there is no sound in my speakers08:00
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rickardfor example when I try to config xmms to use mu sb card08:01
dr_willisIve got a SBlaster AUduigy2 ZS08:01
dr_willis:P08:01
tweakismubuntu is cool.08:01
rickarddr_willis, did it work fine for you?08:01
Cal[] Johnflorob: ill have to do that tonight then, thanks08:01
Tron|BoRGI Love Ubuntu !!!!08:01
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dr_willisrickard,  works fine08:01
tweakismEven my boss can use it :P08:01
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chetanyone have WEP working?08:01
dr_willisrickard,  I do recall I had to twiddle with the mixer setting some. to enable the digital output.08:01
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rickarddr_willis, do you also have a soundcard on your mother board?08:01
dr_willisrickard,  nope. :P or if i do - its disabled.08:02
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rickardI think that is my problem08:02
FlorobCal[] John: well i'd try dpkg first, or did you already?08:02
tweakismchet: WEP isn't a problem for me.08:02
danko123456rickard, perhaps he can give us his amixer:)08:02
Cal[] Johnflorob: i was asking how08:02
rickarddr_willis, will you?08:02
chettweakism- could you give me a hand?08:02
danko123456dr_willis: please paste the output of amixer to http://pastebin.com , and tell us the URL.08:02
chettweakism- did you use gui or /etc/network/interfaces?08:02
Cal[] Johnflorob: does "packetname" indictate the location?08:02
gaston_how i make a boot disk for a computer without a hd?08:02
tweakismchet: Sure.  You probably have to use the hex form, btw.08:02
danko123456Cal[] John: do you have the file?08:03
Cal[] Johnflorob: yes08:03
chettweakism- do you mind if I /msg for this, keeping up with scroll is difficult08:03
Tron|BoRGare you sybbubg windows gaston08:03
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Tron|BoRGrunning08:03
FlorobCal[] John:  it is the location and complete name of of the .deb file08:03
webmindgaston_, ask in public damnit08:03
danko123456gaston_: how does that even work?08:03
Cal[] Johnflorob: ok, ill give that a shot08:03
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rickarddanko123456, does it matter if I use ALSO or OSS?08:04
danko123456yeah, it likely will, in what program?08:04
rickardxmms08:04
Cal[] Johnflorob: that won't work if it was a .tar.gz though, would it?08:04
FlorobCal[] John: right08:04
Cal[] Johnflorob: lucky me lol08:04
dr_willisdanko123456,  ya mean -->  http://pastebin.com/28663208:04
danko123456rickard, yeah, I have to use esound there.08:04
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danko123456dr_willis: thanks.08:05
Cal[] Johnflorob: brb, go ind file08:05
FlorobCall[] John: http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/ubuntu/pool/main/m/memtest86+/memtest86+_1.55.1-1ubuntu1_i386.deb might do the trick08:05
danko123456dr_willis: did you have to turn on the audigy somewhere, do you remember?08:05
dr_willisdanko123456,  i do recall the mixer controlls for that card are a little 'odd' :P in ways - dependong on if you use the digital out or analog out.08:05
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XhyldazhKHi all08:06
stuNNedhi XhyldazhK08:06
XhyldazhKIn which package is located dos2unix?08:06
XhyldazhKhi stuNNed08:06
stuNNedXhyldazhK: `apt-cach search dos2unix`08:06
dr_willisdanko123456,  i installed some of the alternatve alsa mixers also. and twiddled a LOT with them. :P08:06
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XhyldazhKstuNNed: it returns without any response08:07
rickarddr_willis, how to install them?08:07
dr_willisrickard,  with apt-get whatevermixeryouwant08:08
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danko123456rickard: youa re not using the audigy yet, it seems.08:08
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stuNNedXhyldazhK: not really sure then, there's packages.ubuntu.com afaik, can check there08:08
rickarddanko123456, how can I do that then?08:08
danko123456not sure, as I said, not very handy...08:08
danko123456uranus??08:08
danko123456:)08:08
danko123456lol08:08
rickardhehe08:08
rickarddon't you like the name of mu computer?08:09
danko123456go crack into that...08:09
Cal[] JohnFlorob: thankyou, but it looks like ill need a livecd08:09
FlorobCall[] John: why08:09
danko123456crimsun_: by any chance are you here?08:09
XhyldazhKstunned: iconv can do the job of dos2unix?08:09
rickarddanko123456, do you think it's a mixer problem and not a driver problem?08:10
Cal[] JohnFlorob: dkpg is giving that same memalloc error08:10
danko123456rickard, it looks like you are not using it yet, jsut a sec.08:10
stuNNedXhyldazhK: don't use DOS that much, sorry.08:10
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FlorobCall[] John: the problematic thing is that if it's really the RAM. failling malloc could also happen while downloading and burning ...08:11
danko123456anyone know how to specify which sound card to use?08:11
dos000is it possible to transfer the /etc/ssh/{rsa,dsa} keys between machines ? or the keys contain info that is particular to the machine that generated it.08:12
Cal[] JohnFlorob: I have another windows box downstairs08:12
stuNNedXhyldazhK: what exactly is dos2unix anyways? :)08:12
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Cal[] JohnFlorob: and i was gonna use that08:12
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timeless_how do install a print in this os08:13
timeless_printer08:13
timeless_hp555008:13
FlorobCall[] John: sounds good... let's hope the liveCD turns something up08:13
XhyldazhKstuNNed: it changes all 0x13,0x10 carriage returns to unix style ones08:13
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shinui just recompiled my mplayer to get more codecs working. and nothing is working as a normal user. what did i do wrong?08:14
danko123456liek nothing what, more info, please.08:15
shinuwell. the sound plays but not the image.08:15
shinubut as root i can play it think08:16
shinui think*08:16
Cal[] JohnFlorob: yeah, ill check back tomorrow with the results08:16
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Cal[] John;)08:17
danko123456shinu: did you compile it as root?08:17
shinudanko123456: i only did make install as root08:18
danko123456dunno, weird.08:18
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shinudanko123456: and it only plays it in fullscren as root 0.o08:19
shinucant even use f08:19
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danko123456shinu: um, reinstall as you? maybe chmod some of the files?08:19
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Lafitte-anyone know what needs to be installed to monitor network traffic  in a bash prompt ?08:20
danko123456dr_willis: you still here? do you know how to turn off the on board card, and turn on the audigy one?08:20
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hannes_netstat08:20
hannes_Lafitte-: or what do you mean?08:20
shinudanko123456: just a q. how do i uninstall it? make uninstall?08:20
Lafitte-hannes_,  watch traffic   for my network connection08:20
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rickarddanko123456, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24937&highlight=multiple+sound+car08:21
rickardis that how you do?08:21
Lafitte-hannes_,  yes that wa sit08:21
Lafitte-hannes_,  ty  very much08:21
hannes_np08:21
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Lafitte-hannes_,  er wait   somthing like tha  but never stopps08:22
AMCDeathKnightUbuntu should install all the updates during install08:22
danko123456shinu, I never did that.08:22
othernoobwhere can i get drivers for an audigy 2 ?08:22
danko123456AMCDeathKnight: You are so right,.,..08:22
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shinuuh...08:22
hannes_netstat -c08:23
danko123456rickard:)...othernoob08:23
Lafitte-hannes_, yeah thats it  i remember08:23
AMCDeathKnightIma noobie, Do we need to install a firewall for linux?08:23
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hannes_AMCDeathKnight: depend08:24
hannes_s08:24
hannes_do you have any daemons running?08:24
AMCDeathKnightim only using it for home use08:24
AMCDeathKnightdaemons.. what are they08:24
shinudanko123456: i get something like this: http://pastebin.com/286645 when i try to play a file as normal user08:25
digip1mpAMCDeathKnight: a network application.... a Mail Server is really a server running a Mail Daemon....08:25
AMCDeathKnightoh08:26
AMCDeathKnightNope08:26
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danko123456rickard: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27186 ?08:26
crushdreaAnyone here install on a T42?08:26
crushdreaIBM that is, laptop08:27
dr_willisdanko123456,  ive always used the bios to disable the onboard sound. Or i guess ya could blacklist its modulkes and not let them get loaded. the Gentoo ALsa Guide - has a lot of good info also I recall.08:27
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digip1mpAMCDeathKnight: it is wise to have a firewall on your computer to watch OUTGOING traffic, but for inbound traffic it's easier to buy a broadband router like the ones linksys sells, and protect your systems with it.08:27
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AMCDeathKnightok08:27
AMCDeathKnightThanks08:28
digip1mpAMCDeathKnight: a firewall on your computer can do useful things like alert you that a virus or trojan that your system has been infected with is trying to connect to the Internet...08:28
danko123456thanks, dr.08:28
danko123456crushdrea: why? should work fine...08:28
AMCDeathKnightok08:28
crushdreaCan not seem to get an IP address from ISP, sees card fine, no go  Other system I am on right now can08:29
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anto9uscrushdrea: try setting the mac address to the same as the machine you were successful with08:30
Echelon-HIf I am downloadign somethign I need debian version?08:30
crushdreahave skipped network setup and am continuing.  Not sure what is wrong tho, Fedora got ip this morning fine from same laptop08:30
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AMCDeathKnightI think so Echelon-H08:31
anto9uscrushdrea: some isps, like mine, limit to one mac address for the connection, I had to spoof my router's mac address to get it to work08:31
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AMCDeathKnightunless there is a ubuntu version08:31
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danko123456crushdrea: dhcp ISP?? or pppoe?08:31
crushdreadhcp, have two ip assigned to me from isp08:31
danko123456weird, well, see what it works out to...08:32
danko123456time will tell:)08:32
digip1mpanto9us: AMCDeathKnight: the Linksys routers provide an easy way to do this.08:32
danko123456oh man, there is school todfay, and I just cant get myself out of this chair, I am totally lethargic...08:32
AMCDeathKnightyep, I will look at them soon08:33
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my__hazis it possible to see the bandwith use al la gkrellm at the command line08:34
AMCDeathKnightThe automate script in the Ubuntu forums is neat08:34
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pisukeI suppose it's been reported. but if you have PCM at 100% there's still sound even if you mute the master channel08:35
danko123456Echelon-H: yeah, usually a debian will fit nice:)08:35
Echelon-Hk danke08:35
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pppoe_dudehow can i change my CPU frequency to a static ( i have a scaling cpu)08:36
danko123456pppoe_dude: arent you special:-p08:36
pppoe_dude cpufreq-selector seems to only change it temporarily...08:37
danko123456sebas left the room, teknoprep, you were a little harsh on the poor fellow...:)08:37
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pppoe_dudeall i want is to slow down my CPU so that the loud noisy fan never comes on08:37
Tron|BoRGslow it down !08:37
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danko123456chap08:37
Tron|BoRGget a new fan08:37
gangaleeWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match Hoary's kernel?08:37
Tron|BoRGthat is quieter08:37
pppoe_dudelaptop08:37
Tron|BoRGoh08:37
Tron|BoRGhehe08:38
digip1mpjust kick the cpu a few times to show it who's boss...08:38
Tron|BoRGppoe_dude lol08:38
AMCDeathKnightlol08:38
pppoe_dudelol08:38
pppoe_dudeok08:38
Tron|BoRGwhat a stupid name - but cool08:38
pppoe_dudewell?08:38
Tron|BoRGput it in a box08:38
pppoe_dudei found a file called scaling_max_freq08:38
danko123456hahaha08:38
Tron|BoRGthen you'll not hear it08:38
danko123456lol08:38
pppoe_dudebut i can't change it08:38
danko123456you fool08:38
diemangah. didn't realize that locales wont setup EN_us.UTF8 by default if its called without any defaults.08:38
diemanugh.08:38
Tron|BoRGis anyone here doing A levels?08:39
IIIEarsI need a copy of "bootpart"  using ntloader is easier because windows needs to be reinstalled so frequently.   boot.ini and a copy of the linux bootsector will make windows do Ubuntu's bidding       (The evil deathstar - lol)08:39
dieman(most people choose these in the d-i install)08:39
IIIEarsM$08:39
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IIIEarscouldn't find bootpart on their site08:39
pppoe_dudeso.. anybody?? please..08:40
Tron|BoRGwhat are you trying to do IIIEars08:40
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danko123456pppoe_dude: no need for a please, I just dont know...08:40
IIIEarsUse - boot.ini to boot Ubuntu on a second hd08:40
pppoe_dudedanko123456, ok08:40
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zkruwhow to burn a .img file :)?08:40
Tron|BoRGnero maybe?08:41
zkruwin ubuntu?08:41
Tron|BoRGor some cd burrning ap08:41
pppoe_dudeaha08:41
pppoe_dudefound something08:41
Tron|BoRGif you have linux nero:P08:41
danko123456IIIEars: nope, no can do, as far as I am concerned. I go to the bios every time I wanna boot windows, to disable the primary HD.08:41
IIIEarsdd is okay but one typo and your data is nuked08:41
KpjasI'm wondering what does this line in mtab do ? /dev /.dev unknown rw,bind 0 008:41
AMCDeathKnightneither pppoe_dude, post it in the Ubuntu Forums08:41
pppoe_dudek08:41
we2byhow do u mount an .iso file?08:42
danko123456mount it!08:42
pppoe_dudemount [imagefilename]  [destination] 08:42
zkruwmount a img file and do a copy cd?08:42
Tron|BoRGwow08:42
IIIEarsThanks danko - that might be the best and easiest way. (making a 512 byte boot.lnx file is a pain)08:42
FlorobKpjas: as far as I can tell it "mirrors" /dev on /.dev but why it does that is a good question08:42
danko123456+ a few arguments, pppoe_dude:)08:42
Tron|BoRGi wouldnt have thought it would be as easy as that08:42
zkruwdos nero linux have a gui?08:42
danko123456hehe:)08:42
Tron|BoRGprobably08:42
Funraiserwe2by, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning08:43
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danko123456please do not use nero on linux:( defeats the purpose...08:43
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Nermalhello :08:43
danko123456thanks, Funraiser08:43
digip1mpzkruw: dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/floppy/linux.dd bs=512 count=108:43
Tron|BoRGhi nermal08:43
NermalI'm a complete arse who runs breezy08:43
teknoprepdanko123456, not really.. i was not too harsh08:43
Tron|BoRGlol08:43
KpjasFlorob: after fresh install. I've an unsued ext3 partition08:43
IIIEarsnero on linux? - why? - lol08:43
danko123456hey Nermal:)08:43
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Tron|BoRGi'm sure i've talked to nermal before08:43
Nermalare there any other arses here who also run breezy ? :08:43
Nermal:08:43
danko123456teknoprep: k, at your discretion:)08:44
dr_willistheres a native linux port of nero - but from the reviews ive read - k3b beats it.08:44
AMCDeathKnightYou shouldnt run breezy08:44
Tron|BoRGnermal: have you been on #suse08:44
Nermalx appears to have exploded08:44
AMCDeathKnightIts in v ery low developtment stage08:44
Tron|BoRGexploded - hahaha08:44
danko123456wow, a linux nero? ok, if you say so...08:44
NermalAMCDeathKnight yes.. thankyou for the insight08:44
teknoprepdanko123456, lol08:44
NermalTron|BoRG I own #suse08:44
Tron|BoRGhaha08:44
teknoprepdanko123456, its easy fix for nooobs.. reinstall08:44
Tron|BoRGoh yes08:44
NermalFatal server error:08:44
Nermalcould not open default font 'fixed';08:44
Nermalideas ?08:44
Funraiserdanko123456, what purpose? everybody's purpose is not to have an all free system...mine is just to kick M$ in the a.. so nerolinux is fine for me08:44
Tron|BoRGi do remember the name nermal, hi again08:44
teknoprepdanko123456, if we had german speaking ppl... it would have been easier08:44
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AMCDeathKnightok08:44
Pischenberghi08:44
teknoprepdanko123456, but he answered none o fmy questions08:44
dr_willisI own nero for windows.. so i can get the nero-linux for free.  :P08:45
AMCDeathKnightHi08:45
danko123456Funraiser: what I mean is like...I just installed my linux, so I can run vlc, and nero...:-p08:45
Nermalor.. is there a nice way to downgrade back to hoary :)08:45
gangaleeWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match Hoary's kernel?08:45
AMCDeathKnightGuys, is it easy to burn dvd's on Linux08:45
Pischenbergi've this mistake after the installation08:45
danko123456teknoprep: yup, mine neither:)08:45
Tron|BoRGoh can i have a copy of nerolinux lol08:45
PischenbergStarting Ubuntu....08:45
PischenbergBuffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 008:45
Pischenbergpivot_root: No such file or directory08:45
Pischenberg/sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file08:45
PischenbergKernel panic - not syncing: Attemted to kill init!08:45
Tron|BoRGactually08:45
Funraiserdr_willis, only if it's a non oem version08:45
Tron|BoRGno!!08:45
teknoprepdanko123456, he deserved that08:45
danko123456ha, panic.08:45
dr_willisFunraiser,  yep.. I bought nero. :P08:45
Funraiserdivx was create on linux at first08:45
Tron|BoRGi didnt :$08:45
zkruwthen tell me a program that is able to burn .img files08:45
Pischenbergwhat can i do?08:46
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jjessecan't k3b burn .img files?08:46
Funraiseryes08:46
danko123456sure, whatever, you know y ou dont teach a kid by beating him up for doing something wrong, but, not important, Ill agree with you...k08:46
zkruwmy k3b dosent start08:46
AMCDeathKnightgtg08:46
digip1mpIIIEars: dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/floppy/linux.dd bs=512 count=108:46
AMCDeathKnightbye guys08:46
zkruwi writes k3b and nothing happends08:46
AMCDeathKnightctrl-c08:46
jjessei had to install some packages before mine would start08:46
Funraiserjjesse, i think it can08:46
digip1mpIIIEars: read this: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/larriera.html08:46
Nermalhmm.. any ideas how to fix X ?08:46
Florobteknoprep: we do have german speacking people08:46
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IIIEarsWindows is good for everything you don't need to connect to the 'Net for. - not much much more than games08:47
Tron|BoRGNermal: you could install hoary instead :)08:47
teknoprepFlorob, someone should have talked to him then08:47
Pischenbergsomeone can help me?08:47
Funraiserfor?08:47
NermalTron|BoRG aye.. but no way to revert back ?08:47
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Tron|BoRGNermal: I doubt it08:47
NermalPischenberg boot with pci=noacpi noapic08:47
PischenbergStarting Ubuntu....08:47
PischenbergBuffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 008:47
Pischenbergpivot_root: No such file or directory08:47
Pischenberg/sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file08:47
PischenbergKernel panic - not syncing: Attemted to kill init!08:47
Tron|BoRGPischenberg: I had exactly the same thing !!08:48
danko123456did he just paste again?08:48
danko123456:)08:48
Pischenbergyes08:48
Funraiserdanko123456, yes08:48
Tron|BoRGi remember being kicked for pasting08:48
digip1mpIIIEars: or this: http://www.pmg.lcs.mit.edu/~chandra/install/install_dualboot.html08:48
Pischenbergexcuse me08:48
Funraiserok this time lol08:48
concept10Pischenberg: did you try to reinstall?08:48
Tron|BoRGi think i pasted something like 50 lines haha08:48
Pischenbergno i've only ubuntu08:48
Pischenbergyes concept1008:49
Pischenberg4 times08:49
Tron|BoRGlol08:49
concept10have you ever installed another distro08:49
IIIEarsNice link - Thank You.08:49
danko123456Pischenberg: no worries, I was just checking:) anyhow, did you check the md5sum of the download?08:49
k31thanyone know any decent free news servers ?08:49
danko123456reburn it onto the cd?08:49
zkruwi get this error, k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqtmcop.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:50
zkruw anyone know wich packege to reinstall?08:50
Pischenbergno danko12345608:50
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danko123456is usenet non free? I bnever newsgroup...08:50
Funraiserdanko123456, yes but to access it...08:50
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Pischenbergi've the hdd on secondary ide channel08:50
danko123456Pischenberg: that may well be a reasonable thing to do...dont ask me how, cause I dont know how to check it...08:50
Funraisermy isp gives me access to NGs (i mean to all of them hehe)08:50
neighborleewhat part of my system do I edit to make 'umount' work via the drives eject button ?08:50
concept10zkruw: look for libqtmcop in synaptic - install qt-development packages also08:51
danko123456Funraiser: I meant as I typed, so it is free, but you have to access it somehow?08:51
pppoe_dude where do i find the source of the kernel?08:51
danko123456neighborlee: the kernel:-p08:51
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Florobneighborlee: if that's possible at all probably ACPI or the kernel08:51
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concept10neighborlee: what are u trying to do, eject your cd rom?08:52
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danko123456pppoe_dude: you want the source of the kernel? which one? what made you think you want it, tell me that and maybe I can tell you,.08:52
concept10neighborlee: with the button?08:52
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Funraiserwell there are services that give u access to NGs with a huge download, it's like 10 dollars per month08:52
Funraiserbut u still need an isp08:52
[Phaedrus] so i guess Netscape isnt dead afterall... still alive and kicking08:52
Funraiserkicking?08:52
Funraiseralive yes08:53
teknoprepis anyone else having a problem here with kopete and msn messenger08:53
danko123456Funraiser: so, I cant get to the usenet just if I wanted to like right now?08:53
pppoe_dudedanko123456, lol, i need to check if i can control CPU scaling from USERSPACE08:53
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Lafitte-teknoprep, what problem ?08:53
Jeezishow do you set the superuser password in ubuntu?08:53
[Phaedrus] heh..08:53
Jeezissudo passwd root?08:53
teknoprepLafitte-, not being able to log in08:53
danko123456jeezis, search the wiki for "ootsudo"08:54
teknoprepLafitte-, keeps saying wrong password08:54
danko123456rootsudo08:54
[Phaedrus] Funraiser: did you try the new netscape browser?08:54
Jeezisdanko123456: thanks :)08:54
pppoe_dudeand one article says i need to do a "grep CPUFREQ /usr/src/linux-2.6.x/.config"08:54
danko123456[Phaedrus] : you saying its nice?08:54
pppoe_dudeexceot i can;t find that08:54
danko123456welcome08:54
Funraiserdanko123456, it depends of your ISP, all of them give u access to "normal" NGs, but some ISPs don't give u access to the NGs where u can find binaries08:54
[Phaedrus] i am not saying anything... i havent tried it yet08:54
Lafitte-teknoprep, no   hrmm    no problem here08:54
danko123456ah...whats your ISP?08:54
Funraiser[Phaedrus] , no, i like it free, is netscape free, seriously i don't know08:55
danko123456ah. ok, well, what do you think you expect from the "new" netscape?08:55
neighborleeconcept10, yes like suse , mandriva and several other distros do08:55
Funraiserdanko123456, ISP internet service provider08:55
danko123456gtk integraqtion?08:55
[Phaedrus] i am just wondering how they managed to incorporate the rendering engine of Firefox and IE (without MS getting at them)08:55
danko123456Funraiser: ha, who is yours...whats your...08:56
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pppoe_dudei need help!!! where can i find something equivalent to " /usr/src/linux-2.6.x/.config"?? my usr directory doesnt have that08:56
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Funraiserdanko123456, mine is the best in France called Free, best because it's the only one that allows connections to binary NGs...08:56
Funraiser:-)08:56
danko123456:)08:56
haffepppoe_dude, You need kernel sources for taht.08:56
danko123456pppoe_dude: did you search synaptic?08:56
concept10neighborlee: I have eject mapped to a button on my keyboard, the button on the drive doesnt work sometimes08:57
Funraiserfor 30 euros a month, a 5 mega connection with access to binaries...how cool is that,08:57
[Phaedrus] Funraiser: i think its free... it seems people have tried it already08:57
neighborleeconcept10, how is this accomplished ?08:57
danko123456linux-source-2.6.10, and 2.6.11 are in my synaptic...08:57
pppoe_dudewell the only thing i need to do is to enable userspace to control cpu scaling... will i have to recompile the kernel for that??08:57
gangaleeHow do I find C header files?08:57
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pppoe_dudeargh08:58
tronddgangalee: apt-get install *-dev ... :)08:58
concept10neighborlee: in gnome, goto keyboard shortcuts and look for eject.  my keyboard has some extra multimedia keys I have volume and etc mapped out08:58
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neighborleespeaking of source...there is no source matching 2.6.10-5-386.not linux-tree or kernel-source or anything so where are we suppose to get it ?08:59
danko123456locate *.h08:59
gangaleetrondd: I've already installed it, I'm trying to answer VMWare questions08:59
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danko123456neighborlee: I would not get it myself, you asked wehre you would map the eject button on your cdrom drive.08:59
tronddgangalee: /usr/include08:59
danko123456neighborlee: lemme ask you this...08:59
danko123456is it really easier for you to push the buton on the box, then to right click and eject on the desktop?09:00
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digip1mpwow - the default desktop sharing (VNC) in Ubuntu is horrible when compared to Remote Desktop for WindowsXP - I'm not trying to troll here.   Is there a faster solution?09:00
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pppoe_dudedigip1mp, you cant compare them09:00
pppoe_dudedigip1mp, two different things09:00
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danko123456digip1mp: yeah, go in feront of your computer, and use it.09:00
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gangalee/usr/include doesn't seem to contain kernel header files09:01
danko123456digip1mp: please explain the need for a remote desktop access, from another desktop computer.09:01
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Florobneighborlee, interesteds: Is hotplug not handling this, i somehow was under the impression if  the device is not busy it would unmount and eject it on button press.09:01
danko123456digip1mp: I can see the need for ftp...or that remote file access.09:01
pppoe_dudewell i'm out for a smoke09:01
Lafitte-digip1mp, mine is super fast   even faster then xp09:01
danko123456If it is mounted, you need to eject.09:01
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trondddigip1mp: tsclient supports other protocols than vnc. X over ssh could be an alt.09:02
zenroxyep09:02
concept10neighborlee: did it work for you09:03
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digip1mppppoe_dude: I understand that they are different; let me put it to you this way: I want to control my home system from work - right now it runs WinXP (for gaming), but it dual-boots Ubuntu for not gaming.  When I use RDesktop to control my home computer, it's very snappy and makes me happy.  When I use VNC on a 10/100 network here at work to control a computer on the other side of my desk...09:03
digip1mp...for testing Ubuntu, it's draggy and makes me sad.  Is there a Linux solution that will make me happy?09:03
laslohow can i get a firestarter firewall icon on my systemtray09:03
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neighborleeconcept10, sorry got busy with PM09:03
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neighborleeconcept10, checking09:03
trondddigip1mp: X over ssh09:03
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concept10laslo: check prefrences09:04
digip1mptrondd: but that's not desktop sharing, like I want09:04
laslothank you09:04
bkw-laptopI would like to try gdesklets with my fresh ubuntu install, are there any page that explain the steps?09:04
neighborleeFlorob, nope not in ubuntu its not set as that type of default behavior although i'm surprised considering their ease of use philosophy09:04
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tahorgdigip1mp: tried vino ?09:04
trondddigip1mp: okey.09:04
digip1mptahorg: no - is it faster?09:05
tahorgdon't know09:05
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neighborleedanko123456, tons easier and usability wise its smart ( who has 85% market share afterall and how do they do it ?<G>)09:05
La_PaRCahey, anyone out there running warty that wants to send me File_Roller_Component.server?09:05
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danko123456neighborlee: I am not sure what that refers to, can you reiterate?09:06
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neighborleeconcept10, under sound > eject ???? ( I see no other eject mentioned)09:06
Funraiserdid u hear that: Balmer said that Google has 5 years left of existence09:07
concept10neighborlee: yes09:07
neighborleedanko123456, tons easier and usability wise ( user interface design) its smart ( who has 85% market share afterall and how do they do it ?<G>)09:07
La_PaRCaanyone?09:07
Funraisernope09:07
neighborleeconcept10, alright ..trying then09:07
lotusleafFunraiser, the former iraqi intelligence guy had some funny things to say too09:07
Funraiserlol09:07
danko123456digip1mp: your putting it that way makes me sad:)09:08
Funraiserman this guy was good09:08
danko123456neighborlee: which, the eject button on the drive??09:08
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neighborleedanko123456, yes09:09
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digip1mpdanko123456: trust me - I'd love to kick Gates and Balmer square in the nutz... If only they made CS : Source for Linux09:09
danko123456neighborlee: if so, then I am gonna make a digi photo for you, to see why I think right click eject is easier.09:09
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Funraisererrr...CS works with cedega09:09
digip1mpFunraiser: it's slooooooooooooooow.09:09
danko123456digip1mp: I mean, your issue is lack of knowledge, I hope you find it...09:09
lotusleafI defecated on my windows cd09:10
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FunraiserCS and cedega at http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Counter-Strike:_Source09:10
danko123456digip1mp: I never yet logged into my computer through a graphical login remotely...and I do not see a need for soemthing like that. THat is all.09:10
neighborleeconcept10, ok that worked although its a weird workaround and in 'sound' makes no sense...they need to move that elsewhere to make the option more visible maybe...but anyway I dont see why 'eject' can't be assigned to the 'button' on drive like some of the other distros do as its very user friendly and afterall that is market we are after...unless the devs feel somehow its bad design???09:10
danko123456now, neighborlee, let me make that photo....09:10
Funraiserdigip1mp, maybe it's your system, cose it's known to work without problems...09:10
anto9uslotusleaf: you could probably sell that as modern art09:11
mod^how can I find out the size of my harddrive? :p I want to find out how large hd my shell provider has :D09:11
Shuflahello :D09:11
stuNNedhmm human icons set is a bit buggy it seems09:11
lotusleafanto9us, nope, I gave it to Jesus, and he broke it, gave thanks, and installed Linux09:11
HappyFoolmod^: try df -H09:11
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neighborleedanko123456, dont bother.....its more work and  not intuitive at all...suse, mandriva, xandros,linspire all would disagree 100%09:11
stuNNedlotusleaf: please refrain from talking about fecal matter in #ubuntu.09:11
FunraiserCS and cedega: May crash randomly when using ATI XFree86 4.3 8.825 drivers. Backleveling to previous 3.14.6 drivers appear to correct the issue [tested w/MDK10.1, x.Org 6.7, ATI Radeon 9600XT] .09:12
lotusleafstuNNed, please refrain from talking about fecal matter in #ubuntu09:12
neighborleedanko123456, ie: sometimes you might have to press 'show desktop' just to GET to the icon..how is that intuitive or 'faster' than just pushing 'eject';-))09:12
stuNNedlotusleaf: :P09:12
concept10neighborlee: I dont understand it either - its in sound because of CDs - sometimes my button works, sometimes not.  I think it has something to do with ow the drive is mounted09:12
lotusleafstuNNed, :P09:12
danko123456right, neighborlee. again it is a thing I do not use much...like remote graphical login.09:13
mod^404Gb09:13
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stuNNedlotusleaf: stop it right now!09:13
concept10neighborlee: drag the icon to the panel09:13
neighborleedanko123456, gotcha09:13
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lotusleafstuNNed, stop it right now!09:13
neighborleeconcept10, how now that is a bit better and I did not realize that could be done..09:13
Lafitte-heheh     neighborlee   you are funny09:13
neighborleeconcept10, not working09:14
neighborleeLafitte-, how so please elaborate09:14
concept10what icon is it?09:14
neighborleeconcept10, the only desktop icon I have atm..which is contents of cdrom09:14
danko123456neighborlee: sometimes the cd is mounted, you dont wanna allow just pressing buttons...anyhow, I took it as a given...09:14
Lafitte-neighborlee,  umm     your need is about the same as wanting to remove your car tires without taking off the lug nuts     just funny to me09:15
danko123456let me shuit down, connect my cdrom(thats how much I use it...) and see what I can show you...09:15
concept10which panel are you trying to drag it to?  drag it to the one with applications menu09:15
danko123456My coimputer is under my desk, that is the thing...I dont even press any buttons on the bx...09:15
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danko123456thats what I was gfonna take a picture off:)09:15
neighborleeLafitte-, as I said its not funny when several of the 'mainstream' distros do it the same way as well as  a OS that has 85% market share..you see now ? ;-))09:15
neighborleeLafitte-, you are funny09:16
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danko123456neighborlee: the os that has half the world infected with spyware?09:16
gangaleeanyone installed vmware 5?09:16
Funraisereverybody is funny then, that's good09:16
Lafitte-neighborlee,   no  they all require you to unmount the volume to eject09:16
concept10neighborlee: its not just the distro09:16
neighborleedanko123456, so your saying this could be a security threat ?09:16
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neighborleedanko123456, talk to suse and mandriva and linspire and xandros about it then ;-)....oh ,,and knoppix too ;-)09:16
danko123456neighborlee: I am saying, my dvd rw doesnt ehject in windows without the contect menu:)09:17
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neighborleeLafitte-, bullshit09:17
neighborleeLafitte-, sorry you dont know what your talking about..09:17
pppoe_dudehow do i install a .deb package? i'm new to ubuntu09:17
Funraiserbullshit is  longhorn stuff09:17
jelknerAnyone know anything about pythoncard on 5.04?09:17
lotusleafturdhorn is what I prefer to call it09:17
Lafitte-neighborlee,  howver you feel good about yourself dude09:17
danko123456look at my post, to find evidece of Lafitte-s theory...09:17
danko123456pppoe_dude: dpkg -i package09:17
neighborleeLafitte-, its not how I feel its how several mainstream distros also feel...get a grip ;-)09:18
IIIEarsis "alien" used to install .deb packages?09:18
pppoe_dudedanko123456 thanks09:18
goldfishIIIEars: no09:18
danko123456welcome09:18
concept10neighborlee: you can make a launcher to eject the drive and put it on your panel.  the command is eject09:18
danko123456neighborlee: now seriously...09:18
jelknerpythoncard anyone?09:18
goldfishIIIEars: it converts from .rpm to .deb09:18
npiv_As much as longhorn will probly suck I always look forward to new windows versions, they just so pretty :)09:18
Lafitte-neighborlee,  i was laughing because its funny   i ddnt tell you to not to pursue your dreams09:18
goldfishIIIEars: dpkg -i, installs .deb files09:18
Lafitte-neighborlee,  another words  relax09:18
Funraisernpiv, just a pun, bullshit, longhorn...09:18
danko123456neighborlee: I am positive of myu dvdrw not ejecting without the eject selection ftrom the context menu when you right click on it, this is in windows...09:18
HappyFoolneighborlee: you might find that if the CD *cannot* be unmounted, it will not be ejected on other systems. This would be reasonable behaviour, IMO09:18
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concept10npiv: how do you know it will suck09:19
IIIEarsgoldfish - you couldn't make that any easier. - that is really simple09:19
neighborleedanko123456, sorry but you are wrong...try again and report back l8r09:19
Funraiserconcept10, lol09:19
goldfishIIIEars: Yep.09:19
jelknerpythoncard is broken on hoary, yes?09:19
danko123456neighborlee: I am telling you for sure, 100%, nmy partuicular dvd, Ive had it b4 linux, I swear:)09:19
neighborleeHappyFool, no i'm saying on other distros this is exactcly how it works...just like it does in windows...thas all ;-)09:19
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concept10some people get linux working on thier computer and turn into fanboys09:20
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npiv_concept10, the fact they backed off on the new filesystem was pretty dissapointing, and in a preview I saw it basically means more wizards and friendly animated little characters, But its too soon to tell, Like i said im looking forward to it09:20
neighborleedanko123456, then you have a weird drive09:20
lotusleafconcept10, or realists09:20
danko123456neighborlee: if what futureshop(best buy if youre american) sells is weird...09:20
Funraiseri don't get the point of paying for an OS today...09:21
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danko123456it is just how some are made, when mounted, you can not just eject with the button, its not a biggie, and maybe even there are several qways around it, as some ppl said.09:21
concept10npiv_: just because they have wizards means it sucks? you can turn that off you know.  BTW, im not a MS zealot09:21
danko123456a ms zealot, :)09:21
neighborleedanko123456, if you can't eject your CD with eject button then yes thats uncommon...i'm just laying the logic before you saying not only does windows do it ( I dont use it much I just KNOW from experience as do others) but SEVERAL other distros have this same functionality..'because' its smart interface design plain and simple end of story ;-)09:21
concept10neighborlee: youre making tooooooooooo much fuss about the eject button my friend09:22
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Lafitte-neighborlee, what distro allows you to do that ?09:22
npiv_concept10, No like i said its too soon to tell (I backed off my previous statement) , regarding wizards though, try ctrl-f on win xp. Its ridiculous the amount of options and crap you need to go through before oyu can start searching09:22
Funraiserwars are been fought for less than that09:22
neighborleeconcept10, no i'm just discussing the merits as others are with me..if they ask I have the freedom to respond I believe09:22
neighborleeLafitte-, suse, mandrake ( now mandriva), knoppix, xandros, linspire to name a few <G>09:23
IIIEarsneighborlee - I know what you mean - the interesting thing about linux is that it is open source and with a little effort you can transfer that function to Ubuntu and share it with others.09:23
Lafitte-neighborlee,  i would go use one of those  and join there channel  and find another pointless argumnt for them09:23
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Funraiserif u both agree on the fact that u disagree, that's good enough09:24
concept10npiv_: I hate the search in windows too...but you have to realize they make the OS like that so it could be easy for non-techies09:24
neighborleeLafitte-, I choose ubuntu because I find it meets my need and philosophy..all of this is simply over wish to use eject like the other ones do as I find it desireable/easier09:24
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neighborleeIIIEars, yes that is why I was asking09:24
danko123456hah:)09:24
neighborleeIIIEars, because I had no idea where to start trying to achieve that functionality ;-)09:24
concept10npiv_: i absolutely HATE search in windows, it is toooooo slow09:24
danko123456yeah, its not very good.09:25
danko123456I like how in Linux you have the cli alternative, so it can all be faster.09:25
neighborleeLafitte-, slander will get you nowhere in this channel09:25
Funraiserwith google desktop is fast even on windows09:25
IIIEarswhat distro includes it? - can i take a look?09:25
npiv_concept10 - of course, And its great, Im a part time VS developer (probly shouldnt say that here :)) . I just think the powertools arent all that, microsoft could implement a more friendly tech enviroment too, kill the dog ;)09:25
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Lafitte-neighborlee,  slander ???   you need to get an education09:25
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Lafitte-or go read what slander means    rofl09:25
npiv_concept10 - at least present the option09:25
Lafitte-i didnt slander you at all09:25
neighborleeLafitte-, stop being childdish or face being kicked or banned09:25
concept10come on guys09:26
Lafitte-stfu09:26
neighborleeLafitte-, I have the right to discuss without being attacked09:26
danko123456ok, lets drop it start over:)09:26
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IIIEarslol09:26
neighborleeLafitte-, stfu ?09:26
danko123456what do you mean attacked?09:26
Lafitte-very simple09:26
danko123456:)09:26
npiv_Lafitte-, , La fit is throwing a fit muahahha09:26
danko123456its just words?09:26
gangaleeyeah, let's drop it, and talk about kernel header files09:26
Lafitte-hahaha09:26
gangaleein Hoary09:26
danko123456one guy told you, gangalee? looked in the usr/something dir?09:26
npiv_gangalee, eww your not invited to my birthday party ;)09:26
gangaleelike how do I install them...09:26
anto9usgangalee: I like your style :)09:26
Anubiswell BSOD trying ot play Civ309:26
Funraiserstfu (shut the fuck up)09:27
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gangaleeI don't think it's been fully installed09:27
AnubisGuess I will have to learn Freeciv09:27
Funraiserjust explaining!09:27
neighborleeFunraiser, stop it or face ban or kick09:27
gangaleenpiv_: Gangalee will crash your party09:27
npiv_neighborlee, you gonna kick him ?09:27
Lafitte-neighborlee,  you cant ban or kick anyone09:27
HappyFoolgangalee: try linux-headers-38609:27
danko123456gangalee: for what? are you isntalling anything?09:27
HappyFool(assuming you're running a 386 kernel)09:27
danko123456or do as he said.09:27
gangaleeI'm trying to install VMWare wkstation 509:27
HappyFoolgangalee: that should install enough for the compilation of kernel modules09:28
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gangaleeso apt-get install linux-headers-386 ?09:28
Funraiserneighborlee, err...i was just explaining...calm down09:28
HappyFoolgangalee: that should work. are you running a 386 kernel? try 'uname -r' to find out09:28
lotusleaf"Ubuntu Linux 5.10 Colony 1 Released" http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10622&limit=no09:28
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Nermalwoo fixed09:29
lotusleafNermal ;)09:29
Nermalthat was fun09:29
Lafitte-Funraiser,   grin09:29
stuNNedhi Nermal09:29
Nermallo lotusleaf09:29
Nermallo stuNNed @_09:29
Nermal:)09:29
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gangaleeHappyFool: 2.6.10-5-38609:29
npiv_neighborlee, your not being very neighborly ;)09:30
stuNNedNermal: hehe :)09:30
HappyFoolgangalee: then linux-headers-386 is what you want09:30
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gangaleeHappyFool: thanks09:30
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anto9usgangalee: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:31
gangaleeso where does it install? the kernel headers?09:31
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bkw-laptopIs it possible to disable the squares that appear everytime I minimize a window in gnome?09:31
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HappyFoolexcept that linux-headers-386 will automatically upgrade with your image09:31
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Lafitte-bkw-laptop,  you can remove the panel i believe is you want09:32
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danko123456what squares??09:32
Funraiserbtw slander was appropriate since it means: to defame ,or to  to harm the reputation of by libel (merriam webster)09:32
anto9usyeah, what squares exactly?09:32
jaredhow do I download a streaming file (exg: mms://foo.wma)?09:32
bkw-laptopgnome make squares that follows every window during the minimization09:32
HappyFoolpresumably the taskbar (by default at the bottom)09:32
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REBELinBLUEhey09:32
DittoheadDoes 5.04 support nForce (2 400 ultra) SATA?09:33
REBELinBLUEanyone mind giving me a hand with hotplug?09:33
anto9usFunraiser: actually, no, being in IRC and published/broadcast it would be libel09:33
tahorgjared: mmsrip, not in ubuntu09:33
bkw-laptopdanko123456, anto9us: Was that any clearer?09:33
HappyFoolbkw-laptop: you mean the bar at the bottom09:33
tahorgjared: google for it09:33
dockanewhich identd is recommended  ?09:33
HappyFool?09:33
IIIEarsIt looks like the CD eject button will be supported in the next release  (tho you might try installing it now..) http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/utils/eject09:33
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afromanhi everyone09:33
jaredtahorg, thanks.09:33
anto9usbkw-laptop: you mean the animation?09:33
afromanI'm in big trouble09:33
bkw-laptopanto9us, yes.09:33
neighborleeIIIEars, nice..09:34
afromancan you plz help me resizing my screen?09:34
anto9usbkw-laptop: have you tried browsing the options in gnome preferences?09:34
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danko123456bkw-laptop: like the animation that inmitates a frame of a window being minimized? or the taskbar representation of windows?09:34
gangaleefinally got it- /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/09:35
npiv_afroman, system -> preferences -> screen resolution not have the option for you ?09:35
danko123456afroman: just take an axe, and hack it into the right size:)09:35
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bkw-laptopdanko123456, the animation of windows being minimized09:35
Lafitte-IIIEars,  would be the same apt-get install eject ?09:35
gangaleethat screen resolution tool didn't work for me at all09:35
danko123456bkw-laptop: disable?09:35
afromannpiv_ done that but the thing is it won't change from 640x48009:35
gangaleehad to change my xorg.conf09:35
jaredtahorg, mimms is on ubuntu, I'm gonna try it.09:36
HappyFooli have eject in hoary. i don't think this is anything new09:36
npiv_afroman, there are no other options ? or it doesnt change when you select another option ?09:36
danko123456I should leave the channel, the ideas ppl have about customizing their computer are getting on my nervs:)09:36
tahorgjared: is it ?09:36
danko123456maybe its cause I cant find my smokes.09:36
tahorgjared: which repository ?09:36
tahorgahh mimms09:36
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HappyFooleject contains /usr/bin/eject and /usr/bin/volname, which have been around for years09:36
Funraiserdanko123456, the xmms skins are nice...09:36
anto9usbkw-laptop: there's an option in Configuration Editor on the Applications | System Tools menu09:36
afromannpiv_ it doesn't have any other resolution but 640x48009:36
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FBJa little help pls... downloaded a packed file - unpacked as executable. Doubleclick works on Mandriva - but not on Ubuntu09:37
aseedhi all. how do i sync things on my palm and evolution?09:37
danko123456anto9us: whats it under?09:37
aseedappointments, tasks etc09:37
jaredtahorg, I think universe under networking. How can I tell in synaptic?09:37
anto9usbkw-laptop: it's under /desktop/interface09:37
danko123456fbj, name of file.09:37
Lafitte-aseed,  you can it being seen mby linux already09:37
neighborleeIIIEars, I h ad looked before on website and apparantly missed it, so thanks for verification on this matter09:37
npiv_afroman, you need to configure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf then - Perhaps you can rerun the conf tool though one sec09:37
tahorgjared: ok I found it09:37
FBJaltme - a messenger type program09:37
tahorgjared: I thougt you were talking about mmsrip09:37
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npiv_anyone know how to rerun the resolution sizes menu given during installation09:38
aseedLafitte-, what?09:38
neighborleenpiv, by discussing facts and defending myself upon attack ?09:38
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danko123456neighborlee: so works out it really is gonna work?09:38
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Lafitte-aseed,  ack   let me retype that   can you see the device in linux already09:38
npiv_neighborlee, what did I do ?09:38
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neighborleenpiv_ neighborlee, your not being very neighborly ;)09:38
npiv_ah yes09:38
aseedLafitte-, yeah gnome-bluetooth shows the device09:38
bkw-laptopanto9us, I unchecked enable animations09:38
neighborleedanko123456, yes indeed!!!09:38
npiv_funny joke :)09:38
HappyFoolneighborlee: have you tried installing the setcd package? (in hoary universe) It mentions controlling CD properties like auto-locking09:38
bkw-laptopanto9us, I think gnome need restart also09:38
anto9usbkw-laptop: did it work?09:38
Lafitte-aseed,  check for the conduits now09:38
Lafitte-aseed,   those are usually set off  by default  so you need to turn them on09:39
neighborleeHappyFool, no for now keyboard mapping will be sufficient but thank you for the reference09:39
danko123456npiv: you can manually edit the file, and put in the refresh rates? in it...09:39
aseedLafitte-, where do I turn them on?09:39
jaredtahorg, seems to be working...09:39
Lafitte-aseed, should be in the palm settings09:39
bkw-laptopanto9us, lemme restart gnome. thanks for your help so far.09:40
Lafitte-aseed,  system prefs  palm devices i think09:40
danko123456neighborlee: :)09:40
Lafitte-aseed,   no her eit is09:40
npiv_afroman, Ill help you with it manually, you there ?09:40
Lafitte-aseed,   in evolution09:40
aseedyeah09:40
Lafitte-aseed, tools palm settings  then conduits09:40
Lafitte-aseed,  then sync the palm again09:41
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aseedLafitte-, urgh, cant believe i missed that in evo09:41
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Lafitte-aseed,   hehe   yeah   i had issues  with mine09:42
aseedit's looking for /dev/pilot tho, what will the bluetooth device be?09:42
Lafitte-aseed,  has to add my model to the palm script  by hand09:42
HappyFoolis it just me, or are the repositories often a bit screwed wrt package files having incorrect MD5 ?09:42
Lafitte-aseed,  i use usb     so im not sure   ill google for it for you    hold a sec09:42
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danko123456why would something like auto mounting of a digital camera device stop working?(except for me constantly installing, and uninstalliong things on my comp?09:43
aseedLafitte-, you don't have to, i'll have a look if you like :)09:43
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danko123456KarlosII: what?09:43
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Lafitte-aseed,   you look also   tellme if you find it09:43
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danko123456KarlosII: a tv channel?09:43
psychonatewhat exactly is the mplayer-custom package?09:43
KarlosIIyes it has all our live parlimentary sessions09:43
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KarlosIIfed government09:44
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danko123456not on my tv it dont...09:44
KarlosIImaybe not :)09:44
danko123456cpac channel?09:44
danko123456what are they lying bouit now?09:44
FBJAny pointers as to how to run an executable file on Ubuntu... It works fine with doubleclicking on Mandriva (pls) ?09:45
HappyFoolFBJ: do you know how to start a terminal?09:45
danko123456FBJ: what is the name of the file09:45
FBJyes09:45
FBJthe filename i altme09:45
FBJ*is09:45
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danko123456so, just altme?09:45
HappyFoolFBJ: do that, and cd to the directory where the file is09:45
FBJyes09:45
psychonateWhat is the extension?09:45
Lafitte-aseed, /dev/ttySN09:45
PatternsVery stupid question from a newbie--I believe that I just upgraded Ubuntu from Wrty to Hoary using the Synaptic09:45
danko123456then chmod +x altme09:46
Lafitte-aseed,  might be the srial number for the device09:46
danko123456then ./altme09:46
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PatternsUpon reboot how can I tell if it actually updated?  It looks the same09:46
aseedLafitte-, i'll try it out - thanks a lot for the help09:46
FBJthanks - I'll try that :-)09:46
Lafitte-aseed,  wait thats not it  he e09:46
danko123456fbj, compile muine and his instructions into one, btw09:46
danko123456not muine:)09:46
HappyFoolPatterns: try System -> About Ubuntu ?09:46
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ted__I have a question, everytime I use sudo command it asks for my password twice09:47
danko123456oooh, mine dont work, HappyFool09:47
danko123456heh, KarlosII put on cbc 1, there is a funny argument.09:47
Funraiserted__, do you stutter?09:48
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kushboycan someone help me set up my sound card?09:48
KarlosIIdanko123456, question period is more hilarious then JOEY09:48
ted__funraiser no I don't lol it occured after I tried to insall an ldap server09:48
HappyFoolted__: does it say 'Sorry, try again.' or just ask again?09:48
npiv_Crap, man isnt working anymore, I probly removed the link can someone do a quick search, where is the command located and is it a link ?09:48
JairunCalothhow can I tell what version video drivers I'm running?09:49
ted__Happyfool no it doesn't09:49
ted__Just asks again09:49
Funraiserkushboy, u have no sound, or u just installed a new card?09:49
HappyFoolted__: bizarre09:50
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danko123456KarlosII: is that what this show is called?09:50
ted__happyfool I know, it's annoying because I have to run gui admin apps from the command line09:50
KarlosIIeheheh JOEY is a comedy tv show09:50
danko123456no, I mean, question period, what is that?09:51
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-sexygirl:#ubuntu- http://usery.freeownhost.com/me.jpg09:51
danko123456why am I being spammed, btw...sexygirl, whats up with that?09:51
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sexygirlwhat09:51
danko123456(14:51:23) sexygirl: (notice) http://usery.freeownhost.com/me.jpg09:51
danko123456KarlosII: who can we elect, I think it is at the less of two evils right now...09:52
danko123456although martin is a pig,...09:52
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knoppixi want some help09:52
danko123456DENIED!!!!09:52
goldfishIs it wasy to resize a linux partition w/out losing data?09:52
knoppixplease09:53
HappyFoolknoppix: ask your question09:53
knoppixi am runing from a live cd09:53
knoppixfirst09:53
Ali_BabaGparted is a good partition program.09:53
danko123456knoppix: off course, jj...09:53
knoppixhow i make fonts bigerrs because i am running with 409:53
bkw-laptopStrange, to uncheck 'enable animations' in configuration editor didnt make the squares go away during minimizing09:53
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danko123456system prefs...09:54
Ali_Babashouldnt be too hard to resize with it goldfish :)09:54
goldfishAli_Baba: Does it support ntfs?09:54
anto9usgoldfish: I've used http://www.sysresccd.org/ to do that task09:54
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TTilus_goldfish: afaik at least XFS supports (hot?) resizing of filesystems09:54
danko123456bkw-laptop: where was it again?09:54
knoppixssysteem pref it isnt09:55
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danko123456system, prefs, font09:55
Ali_BabaGparted doesnt like ntfs.09:55
Funraisersexygirl, the link doesn't work09:55
bkw-laptopdanko123456, application, systool, configuration editor, desktop gnome interface09:55
goldfishAli_Baba: Damn, my drive is ntfs :/09:55
danko123456Funraiser: it was some spam thing, the person left.09:55
Funraisershit09:55
Funraiserlol09:55
TTilus_goldfish: nobody except ms tools likes ntfs09:55
goldfishwell yeah09:55
goldfishIt was a windows laptop :)09:56
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tiggggrSeveas, tigger? what who me? :-)09:56
TTilus_goldfish: how come "it was"?09:56
sparc_question.. can anybody explain why my plexter DVD drives opens the dvd writer dialog in ubuntu while the burner works okay. both drives have no issues in windows..09:56
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Ali_Babacan you take a backup goldfish and then change filesystem?09:56
bkw-laptopdanko123456, any ideas?09:57
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goldfishAli_Baba: hmmmmmm, dunno....09:57
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goldfishi could delete my windows partition and resize that i suppose09:57
TTilus_goldfish: what are you trying to accomplish?  (i.e. your goal is...)09:57
goldfishTTilus_: I am currently dualbooting, i want to triboot now.09:57
sparc_nobody ?09:57
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goldfishso i need to resize my windows or ubuntu partition09:57
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danko123456Funraiser: yeah, it would be nice if it was for real:)09:58
goldfishJust try to research which partition would be easier to resize.09:58
Ali_Babayou can resize ntfs in windows.09:58
Funraiserdanko123456, he he09:58
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goldfishAli_Baba: ah right09:58
TTilus_goldfish: you have to go with windows tools if you want to tweak ntfs09:58
knoppixk09:59
knoppixdone09:59
goldfishOkay then, thanks.09:59
bkw-laptopAnyone who know how do 'disable' the square animations during minimization of a window in gnome? I've tried =>application, systool, configuration editor, desktop gnome interface    uncheck 'enable animations'      with no success.09:59
knoppixi move my ide on another system aand is not booting09:59
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knoppixit sais that xserver has pbs10:00
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knoppixhello10:01
knoppixis anybody helping me?10:01
anto9usbkw-laptop: try /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources10:01
knoppixwants anybody offer some help10:01
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Nermalknoppix: say the bloody error10:01
danko123456anto9us: nice.10:01
HappyFoolknoppix: i don't know what 'xserver has pbs' means10:02
knoppixi move ide on another system and i dont want to reinstall10:02
Nermalno. thats not an error10:02
Nermalcan't be arsed to prise it out of you10:02
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knoppixi have ubuntu on ide10:02
HappyFoolwhat do you mean by ide ?10:02
danko123456a drive:)10:02
knoppixharddissk10:02
CarlKgoldfish - the Ubuntu installer will resize your ntfs partition10:02
HappyFoolso you've switched your hard-drive from one machine to another?10:02
danko123456bkw-laptop: got it??10:02
knoppixsorry for my english10:02
bkw-laptopanto9us, yes! it worked10:03
danko123456you are forgiven10:03
bkw-laptopdanko123456, roger10:03
HappyFoolknoppix: try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'10:03
danko123456good stuff.10:03
danko123456:)10:03
goldfishCarlK: Will I lose data from the partition I resize?10:03
HappyFoolknoppix: after you've logged in via text mode10:03
knoppixk10:03
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bkw-laptopanto9us, seem it will save a few animations..   that's cool10:03
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anto9us:)10:03
knoppixk10:04
CarlKgoldfish - I didn't10:04
knoppixlet me see10:04
macbethHI ewerybody10:04
goldfishCarlK: Cool, thanks.10:04
danko123456hey, amcbth,.10:04
CarlKgoldfish - but I also made a backup10:04
danko123456or yeah...10:04
goldfishCarlK: :)10:04
bkw-laptopanto9us, thx.10:04
goldfishI can make a backup of my data, I just don't want to reinstall ubuntu again.10:05
Ali_Babagoldfish:you should get rid off windows,its no good :)10:05
anto9usbkw-laptop: you're welcome10:05
macbethhmm wery funny bye bye10:05
goldfishAli_Baba: Need it for my games :)10:05
Ali_Babayeah :)10:05
danko123456ha, he thought it wasnt a typo.10:05
Lafitte-anyone here know how to setup any of the buttons that use the FN key on a laptop ??10:06
Funraiserwell windows is still useful sometimes, i just won't buy any other windows OS, xp will be fine for the next 5 years10:06
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danko123456Funraiser: you bought it??>:o10:06
Funraiserlol10:06
Funraiserdid i say that?10:06
goldfishLafitte-: think there is a howto on the forums.10:06
goldfishhehe10:06
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Lafitte-oh yeah10:07
HappyFoolLafitte-: try 'tail -f /var/log/messages' and then push the keys10:07
danko123456Funraiser: you sure did...10:07
Funraisergoldfish, there are many games with cedega check this out, http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Category:Games10:07
HappyFooli get a message saying: 'Unknown key released ... use setkeycodes'10:07
goldfishFunraiser: YEah, I have cedega, tried it out, doesnt like my laptop resolutions.10:07
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dos000where is syslog in hoary ?10:08
HappyFool/var/log/syslog ?10:08
danko123456Funraiser: whats that, a list of games that run with cedega?10:08
dos000HappyFool, i am looking for /etc/init.d/syslog !10:08
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Funraiserdanko123456, yep! amazing uh10:08
dos000HappyFool, i see only sysklogd10:08
HappyFooli see a /etc/init.d/sysklogd there10:08
Lafitte-HappyFool,  nothing list    even the ones that work10:08
danko123456Funraiser: sure...10:08
HappyFooldos000: sorry, no clue in that case10:09
bkw-laptopwhen I do lsmod loads of modules are listed. I cannot find the whole list in /etc/modules so where can I disable ie a unused networking module?10:09
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dos000HappyFool, the name suggest it is only meant for kernel logs ... no ?10:09
Funraiserdanko123456, i've been testing many myself (games), many work flawlessly, i mean flawlessly10:09
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Lafitte-bkw-laptop, double click the momitors next to the time and date    ten click configure10:10
npiv_Funraiser, czan you give some examples ?10:10
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Funraisermax payne 2, perfect10:10
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npiv_nice10:10
HappyFooldos000: according to the package info for sysklogd: "This package implements the system log daemon, which is an enhanced version of the standard Berkeley utility program. "10:10
BioVorEwhat about /var/log/messages?10:10
Funraiserthat james bond game, can't remember the name, perfect10:10
shinuis there a package DirectConnect valknut for ubuntu?10:11
lotusleafFunraiser, No One Lives Forever? :)10:11
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HappyFoolBioVorE: i think syslog (or sysklogd, or whatever) sends different types of messages to different logs10:11
BioVorEyeah.. I think your right..10:12
Funraiseri tried the demo of half life 2 on ubuntu, my system is a bit old, pentium 3, but the game was nice10:12
Funraisera bit slow, but it has more to do with my system10:12
HappyFool/etc/syslog.conf has more info, and man syslog.conf10:12
tronddDoes anyone here own a Dell inpiron 8100? Cpu-scaling makes X lag when changing freq. Is there a solution to this?10:12
npiv_Funraiser, valve has steal for windows ?10:13
lotusleafFunraiser, try the Doom 3 demo ;P10:13
npiv_I mean linux10:13
digip1mpI am really liking Ubuntu10:13
n3Cbetter far cry10:13
goldfishlotusleaf: why not get the doom 3 linux version? :)10:13
Funraiserdeux ex worked flawlessly too10:13
lotusleafdigip1mp, aren't we all :)10:13
lotusleafgoldfish, cause I didn't like the demo ;)10:13
BioVorEhow well dose HL2 Play inder cedega?10:13
Funraisernpiv, yeah10:13
goldfishlotusleaf: hehe10:13
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lotusleafgoldfish, I'm waiting for Duke Nukem Forever ;)10:13
Funraiseri have steam right on my desktop10:13
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npiv_afroman, did you get it working ?10:14
Funraiserubuntu desktop10:14
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afromannpiv_ nope10:14
goldfishBioVorE: install cedega, install steam via cedega, install hl2, bam.10:14
npiv_afroman, join #f20 Ill help you10:14
BioVorEcool.. might have to try that..  :-)10:14
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lotusleafgoldfish, are you using cedega cvs?10:14
goldfishlotusleaf: nope10:14
dcravenI've never even *seen* hl2... I wanna though.10:14
goldfishyou?10:14
neighborleeBioVorE, its better for linux if you just play native games but I do understand the need for the currently held popular games especially if you bought them and to play with friends...but anyway try to play native games too cause longterm it will help linux aLOT ;-))10:14
lotusleafgoldfish, no wonder it works for you ;)10:14
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BioVorErgr that neighborlee10:15
lotusleafgoldfish, nope, I only used winex, before it was called cedega10:15
digip1mpI've tried gentoo, suse, fc1, fc2, fc3, debian-sarge, centos, rhel, and freebsd, and the ease of install and use on Ubuntu has been incredible.  Of course, I am trying Ubuntu last, so that may have made things a bit easier, but I'm pretty impressed.10:15
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neighborleeBioVorE, ;-)roger dodger ;-)10:15
BioVorEI play UT2k4 in a clan using Iccurus' linux port :-)10:15
Funraisernice10:15
nickrud c10:15
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neighborleeBioVorE, I have that game and NWN..nwn is alot of fun and highly socially addictive LOL10:15
BioVorEworks the same as windows..10:15
digip1mpI really like the getting started guide and the how-to section in the forums10:15
HappyFooldigip1mp: i was trying to use yum on CentOS 3.4 today -- it seems to be quite far behind apt-get, imo10:15
lotusleafgoldfish, no thanks :/10:15
neighborleeBioVorE, yup..grand isn't it ;-)10:15
BioVorEDoom3 has a linux port too :-)10:16
neighborleeBioVorE, yup.10:16
Ali_Babashinu:i downloaded the valknut source from internet and compiled it.10:16
goldfishlotusleaf: kk , if u ever change ur mind pm ask :)10:16
goldfishBioVorE: yes i have it10:16
lotusleafthe only thing I play right now is Enemy Territory it's sweet!10:16
hodgmandoes ubuntu use the same installer as deb testing ?10:16
neighborleeBioVorE, ..dont have that one but i've seen friend play it and its something else10:16
digip1mpHappyFool: yum is actually a pretty solid package manager - you never have to apt-get update, for one...10:16
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HappyFooldigip1mp: it seems so sllooooooow though ;)10:16
shinuAli_Baba: alright... i thought i could just apt-get it... oh well... :P10:16
digip1mpHappyFool: but apt works just as easily/well10:16
BioVorEI hear that Icculus has started on the next UT for linux  :-)10:16
neighborleedigip1mp, yeah its a tad slow though....maybe they will improve on that10:17
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digip1mpHappyFool: it's slow because it downloads package header before everything...10:17
goldfishthe ut2k7 screenshot looks absolutely amazing10:17
neighborleeBioVorE, I believe that is correct yes..linuxgames.com I think I saw that topic on yes10:17
digip1mpthe whole "no doing apt-get update" thing slows it down10:17
BioVorEyup.. the screenshot look like they will pwn10:17
neighborleegoldfish, cross fingers we get unrealED for linux10:17
HappyFooldigip1mp: hrm. haven't they heard of datestamps? ;)10:17
HappyFooltimestamps, even10:17
goldfishAye.10:17
digip1mpheh10:17
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lotusleafDuke Nukem Forever - "Always bet on duke!" :)10:18
BioVorEThats the only thing the linux version is realy missing is UnrealED10:18
neighborleelotusleaf, heh10:18
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HappyFooldigip1mp: to be fair, it was an old computer running a *shudder* virus checker10:18
neighborleeBioVorE, exactly10:18
BioVorEThe mp3 player in UT2k4 for linux dosn't work eather.. but know on cares about it..10:18
neighborleeBioVorE, ditto here10:18
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BioVorEAnyone here running ubuntu as a server?10:18
lotusleaf"damn, that's the second time those alien bastards shot up my ride!" - Duke Nukem, Duke Nukem 3d10:18
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neighborleeBioVorE, not I sorry but im sure it rocks ;-)<G>10:19
anto9usBioVorE: what kind of server?10:19
goldfishBioVorE: I installed no X hoary and i planned to, but havent gotten around to it yet.10:19
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bkw-laptopWhen do I disable modules that are autoloaded during bootup, it can't be only /etc/modules   there're only a few listed?10:19
cfkBioVorE,  techincaly, yes.  dhcp, tftp, appache and nfs10:19
Ali_Babashinu:havent tried backports in apt-get maybe its there :)10:19
BioVorEI have it setup on a 1U rackmount as a server testbed, I like how easy shit works in it compared to debian..10:19
shinuoh... .xD10:19
BioVorEbut The system is very easly enumerated :-/10:20
shinuAli_Baba: you think on #debian they might know something?10:20
BioVorEyeah.. they said build it your self.. :-/10:20
BioVorEmight have to..10:20
Ali_Babamaybe,dont know.But i think its ok to download the source also.10:21
nickrudbkw-laptop, in /etc/blacklist and /etc/blacklist.d/10:21
shinualright10:21
BioVorEproblem is you have to have some patched source to change aplications fingerprint10:21
BioVorEI don't even know if its worth it..10:21
BioVorEnamp -sV hostname and it lights up like a chrismass tree10:21
nickrudbkw-laptop, um, put /etc/hotplug/blacklist blacklist.d, I mean :)10:22
psychonateIs it good to have DMA enabled for CD/DVD rom drives?10:22
shinuis it alright to do ./configure and make as root?10:22
BioVorEussualy just do a make install as root10:22
HappyFoolpsychonate: my DVD video is jerky without it10:22
BioVorEDVD needs DMA  :-)10:22
Ali_Babashinu:i think so,you can also use sudo if you like.10:23
lotusleafWhy does synaptic want to remove yelp everytime I remove mozilla firefox? I was going to use the latest versions of mozilla & mozilla firefox from mozilla's ftp, just untarred into /usr/local but it wants to remove yelp when I remove the synaptic installed firefox and then gives me errors if I run the mozilla 1.7.8 I install manually. Why?10:23
psychonateyeah, so is mine10:23
psychonateand mplayer won't play my DVDs10:23
psychonateeven though I have libdvdcss10:23
Funraiserpsychonate, install VLC10:23
bkw-laptopnickrud, shall I create /etc/hotplug/blacklist    and add the modulename I don't want autoloaded in that file?10:23
BioVorEI suggest building mplayer your self for best results..10:23
HappyFoolpsychonate: mplayer crashed for me. have you tried xine ?10:23
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psychonateWhy? I like mplayer, and I know it should be able to play it.10:23
BioVorEThe precompiled bins I seen suck10:23
psychonate(I used mplayer with this particular DVD often on other distros)10:24
HappyFoolwe are merely suggesting alternatives ;) you are free to do as you choose10:24
paxmasterhello how would i get a package postfix with ssl10:24
paxmasteri install ssl10:25
psychonateWell, I'm frustrated because I know mplayer *should* be able to play this10:25
psychonatebut it keeps telling me my video output is not compatible when I try to play DVDs10:25
psychonateand I tried some other vo's10:25
Funraiserpsychonate, my frustration took me to a point where i installed VLC10:25
psychonateI shouldn't have to though10:25
psychonatemplayer works just fine10:25
psychonateor it should10:25
HappyFoolbugs happen ;)10:25
lotusleafI like watching tv in ascii10:25
BioVorElol, lotusleaf10:26
shinui compiled mplayer myself and doesnt work ;.;10:26
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ximlibcaca rocks!!10:26
lotusleafonce you watch The Simpsons in ascii video mode, you'll be hooked10:26
BioVorEshinu: read the docs and get the correct -dev libs?10:26
Lafitte-shinu, what doest work ?10:26
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shinumy images... i only get the sound10:26
digip1mpdo you have to do anything special to get streamtuner to actually work?  streamtuner is opening xmms when I select a station, but then xmms doesn't do anything10:26
IIIEarshow do i tell what disks are mounted correctly?10:26
digip1mpany ideas?10:26
shinuhttp://pastebin.com/286645 <==10:26
tronddHi! Any reason why dma isn't turned on by default for my dvd?10:27
HappyFoolIIIEars: i don't about 'correctly', but just type mount to see what's mounted10:27
BioVorEwhat the stream url?10:27
Funraiserdigip1mp, i listen to a stream on magnatune.com with xine10:27
shinuBioVorE: not really... i just got it today afternoon...10:27
lotusleaftrondd, see ubuntuguide dot org for step by step instructions on enabling dma for your cd/dvd drive10:27
IIIEarsHappy Fool - Great - Thank You (It isn't easy bein' green - lol)10:28
BioVorEshinu: you may want to grab divx5linux and xvid source and install them before doing mplayer10:28
tronddlotusleaf: I've enabled it, but I wonder if there is a reason why it wasn't on...10:28
shinuuh...10:28
digip1mpFunraiser: does that mean streamtuner doesn't work? or is that just a way to quickly get me to my end goal?10:28
lotusleaftrondd, because it wasn't? I don't know.10:28
shinuBioVorE: everything was fine beforef i recompiled it...10:28
psychonateDoes Ubuntu use devfs?10:28
BioVorEin extract the codeces pack from player and copy the files to /usr/lib/win32's10:28
BioVorEin extract the codeces pack from player and copy the files to /usr/lib/win3210:28
shinuBioVorE: i was using the apt-get mplayer...10:28
IIIEarsdigi - Streamtuner works10:28
BioVorEthat thing sucks ass10:28
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Funraiserdigip1mp, i don't know about your app, just saying u know i case u wanna change10:28
Funraiserin*10:29
BioVorEthe bins don't have software resize and don't have any thing copyrighted10:29
paxmasterdo i need to compile postfix with ssl or is there a packages already there10:29
Lafitte-shinu,  what doesnt work   program   or codecs ?10:30
digip1mpFunraiser: that's what I'll end up doing, but I still want to know why steamtuner or xmms isn't working10:30
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zkruwi dont get it, i have tried to reinstall all programs and librarys, but still i get this, k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqtmcop.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:30
digip1mpFunraiser: thanks for the tip, though10:30
Funraiserdigip1mp, for sound problems u can try http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly10:30
IIIEarsdigi - tho what plugin makes it record is a mystery (it recorded at one time but i have reinstalled Ubuntu)10:30
shinuLafitte-: i think program cause i can play videos with root10:31
shinuLafitte-: but its weird...10:31
Lafitte-shinu,  try this    ok10:31
Lafitte-go here10:31
Lafitte-http://www.ubuntuguide.org/10:31
shinuer.. ok...10:31
Lafitte-look for the multimedia codes   and   run all the commands10:31
Lafitte-also read the page it fixes many things10:32
Lafitte-shinu,  is how i got mine working10:32
Funraiserand mine10:32
shinuLafitte-: alright. fine thanks :)10:32
dabaSlon_schldigip1mp: what does your xmms do? Does it hang? if so, change the output plugin to esound in options prefs.10:32
Lafitte-yep :)10:32
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Lafitte-shinu,   read about how to add all web plugins easy   and all that    fix sound in ubuntu10:32
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Lafitte-yada yada10:32
shinuLafitte-: just one thing. how do i uninstall something i compiled from source?10:33
dabaSlon_schlust delete it for one...10:33
xenoxaosi was having the same problems today, with xmms crashing10:33
james_what's faster, a gefore 6600 PCI express or 6600 agp?10:33
BioVorEdepends on the package shinu10:33
lotusleafshinu, sudo make uninstall10:33
shinualright10:33
BioVorE^ that sometimes works10:33
lotusleafshinu, in the directory where you built it10:33
npiv_shinu, goto to the directory where you compiled it and type make uninstall10:33
Lafitte-what did you uninstall ??10:33
dabaSlon_schlmplayer10:33
shinualright thx10:33
Lafitte-just install it10:33
Lafitte-apt-get install mplayr10:33
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Lafitte-should be fine10:34
dabaSlon_schlmplayer was installed, he wants to uninstallit i Think.10:34
npiv_shinu, next time use a package called checkinstall it will make a package for your custom install so that you can delete it like a normal system package10:34
Lafitte-not a module  just app10:34
lamontpaxmaster: postfix-tls is in hoary, integrated into postfix on breezy10:34
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ximxenoxaos, try beep-media-player10:34
Lafitte-ok  apt-get remove mplayer10:34
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Ali_Babadidn't know that make uninstall thanks :)10:34
shinuLafitte-: the one i compiled from source i meant :)10:34
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Lafitte-shinu,  umm     why did you compile ???10:35
shinu/bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file10:35
shinumake: *** [uninstall]  Error 210:35
lotusleafI like to make clean after make install10:35
shinuis this a problem?10:35
npiv_Lafitte-, I did too, it makes mplayer run a little more smoothly10:35
BioVorEMy Mplayer is from source10:35
Lafitte-npiv_,  hrmm   mine runs very smooth   so i didnt know about that10:35
shinunpiv_: it got worse here... but i think i screwed up something... xD10:35
BioVorEwell got to have the right enviroment10:36
shinuis this error i pasted a problem?10:36
Lafitte-is this for movies ??10:36
Lafitte-i havent done the movies yet10:36
shinuthough it says: Done. just before that...10:36
npiv_shinu, type mplayer, what happens10:36
shinuroot@Discworld:/usr/src/MPlayer-1.0pre7 # mplayer10:36
shinu-su: /usr/local/bin/mplayer: No such file or directory10:36
BioVorEso not installed10:36
BioVorE?10:36
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Lafitte-shinu, apt-get install player  see what it does10:37
paxmasterok10:37
shinubut it autocompletes it10:37
npiv_shinu, well it uninstalled some things but not all I think10:37
Lafitte-shinu,  ./mplayer10:37
shinuLafitte-: it tells me to choose a specific package xD10:37
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Ali_Babawith locate mplayer you can check if something is not unistalled.10:38
Lafitte-totem doesnt work for dvd10:38
Lafitte-ill try diff one10:38
BioVorExine?10:38
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dabaSlon_schldid you install libdvdcss something?10:39
shinuAli_Baba: quite a lot of it...10:39
Lafitte-let me make sure     what is mplayer  ?-->music player ?10:39
tronddmovieplayer!10:39
dabaSlon_schlmovie10:39
Lafitte-i dont have simply mplayer10:39
dabaSlon_schlLafitte-: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:39
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Lafitte-i have totem   let me fnd this mplayer  i was off base  i think abit with giving advice for mplayer10:39
james_what's faster, a gefore 6600 PCI express or 6600 agp?10:39
digip1mpdabaSlon_schl: you win the prize.  that was the problem - all better10:40
Bazzijames_ wouldnt matter10:40
tronddmplayer is the only player thats usable on non-cutting-edge hardware! (Get mplayer today :) )10:40
Lafitte-yeah those ar covered on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/10:40
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Ali_Babatotem is also ok.10:40
thingfishPCIe is a faster bus than AGP.10:40
BioVorE^ yes10:40
Lafitte-but  dvd in totem  not working forme  hrmm10:40
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xenoxaoshow do i shutdown the xwindows system, i only want to do it once, then after reboot i want it to come back up10:41
tronddxenoxaos: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:41
BioVorE(<thingfish> PCIe is a faster bus than AGP. ) Problem is most PCIe graphics cards have a PCIe to AGP bridge in them, so no if thats the case..10:41
xenoxaosthanks10:41
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tronddxenoxaos: log out first and run that from console!10:42
dabaSlon_schldigip1mp: I grow in power?10:42
dabaSlon_schlhah10:42
IIIEarsStreamtuner AND Streamripper - wide grin http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28356.html10:42
xenoxaostronnd: thats what i planned10:42
dabaSlon_schlyesterday some guy is like, thanks dabaSlon, and someone else, more power to you.10:42
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Lafitte-why doesnt ubuntu grab dependencies by itslf  ??10:42
bkw-laptopWhen I try to play a mpg file with totem movie player it say "could not open resource for writing"  anyone who know how do solve that?10:42
tronddxenoxaos: great, just checking :)10:42
dabaSlon_schlI was like, I grow in power, yes!!10:42
BioVorE(<Lafitte-> why doesnt ubuntu grab dependencies by itslf  ??) apt-get install -f10:43
tronddLafitte-: eh, doesn't apt-get do that?10:43
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dabaSlon_schlbkw-laptop: yeah, um, did you uinstall the codecs?10:43
Lafitte-apt-get used to do it itself10:43
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BioVorEdepends are sometimes borked a bit in ubuntu compared to debian..10:43
Funraiserbkw-laptop, yes u could use xine instead10:43
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bkw-laptopdabaSlon_schl, yes. I've installed win32codes10:43
Lafitte-now it warns me they need to grab these files also  and drops to prompt10:43
dabaSlon_schlok, weird cannot open resource for writing...10:43
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dabaSlon_schltried another program?10:45
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digip1mpdabaSlon_schl: you just became Super Saiyan 2...10:45
digip1mpdabaSlon_schl: hehehe10:45
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dabaSlon_schlyeah, and someone asjked me which level am I at now after that last nmihgt, it was fun.10:45
dabaSlon_schlsudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* bkw-laptop10:46
dabaSlon_schlAnd, try a different player10:46
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dabaSlon_schlI guess they had to leavfe,.,,10:46
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Lafitte-sweet     totem froze my system10:47
Lafitte-nice :)10:47
Funraiseri found totem very bugy10:48
Ali_BabaLatiffe: try install totem-xine,it worked for me.10:48
trondd.... mplayer10:48
IIIEarsthe downside of "Streamripper" - you could end up with Michael Jackson tunes written to disk - Eck!10:48
Funraiseryuk10:48
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hybrid_gothhello all10:48
tronddIIIEars: nothing wrong with Michaels old stuff!10:48
Ali_BabaJackson sucks :)10:48
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FunraiserMichael only like young stuff (i know it's an easy one)10:49
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Dekayhello10:49
dabaSlon_schlyo10:49
Lafitte-Ali_Baba,  ok   trying now10:49
Funraiserhey Dekay10:49
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Lafitte-Ali_Baba,  what will this give me  ?10:49
bkw-laptopdabaSlon_schl, Funraiser. yes xine works.10:49
Dekayis it possible to have gnome and kde with ubuntu?10:49
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IIIEarslol10:49
shinu if it says: Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:50
shinuThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:50
shinuis only available from another source10:50
shinudo i have to add some repositories?10:50
dabaSlon_schlbkw, cool.10:50
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Funraiserbkw-laptop, see, it happens all the time10:50
dabaSlon_schlDekay: yeah, which one do you have now?10:50
IIIEarsshinu i have a copy. - direct transfer?10:50
ShadowkidHello10:50
dabaSlon_schlDekay: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:50
Funraiserhello10:50
Lafitte-Ali_Baba,  there it goes :)10:50
shinuIIIEars: if you could :)10:50
Lafitte-ty10:50
dabaSlon_schlyo, Shadowkid10:50
Ali_BabaLatiffe: i got to play xvid,wmv and other videos with totem after that.dont know about dvd.10:50
ShadowkidLinux rulez!10:50
Dekayi mean ubuntu by defauls has gnome.is it possible after the installation to install kde too and use both of them?10:51
shinuxD10:51
Ali_BabaDekay:yes it is.10:51
Shadowkidyes10:51
Lafitte-Ali_Baba,  yes it fixed totem   ty10:51
dabaSlon_schlyup, above is the command that will install kde kubuntudesktop10:51
ShadowkidYou can use Gnome and KDE10:51
Lafitte-autoplay started totem  and the movie came up10:51
hybrid_gothShadowkid: you wont happen to like linux would you?10:51
Dekaythanks :)10:51
hybrid_gothheh10:51
osityanyone know how to setup softwre raid in ubuntu?10:51
Ali_BabaLatiffe,glad to help :D10:51
osityraid 110:51
dabaSlon_schlwelcome.then at login, s\choose the oen you want through sessions10:51
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Funraiserand how do u switch from gnome to kde and switch back?10:51
dabaSlon_schlosity: still?10:52
ShadowkidBefore you login10:52
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Ali_Babayou switch from login,choose session.10:52
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hybrid_gothFunraiser: in the sign in screen go to sessions10:52
dabaSlon_schlShadowkid: you can also install xnest, and run that in gnome, or even new login, to tty810:52
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ShadowkidI use both too, Gnome and KDE10:52
blueyed..you can also have logins with kde and gnome simultaneous..10:52
shinuIIIEars: then i just dpkg -i that right?10:52
Funraiserhybrid_goth, k i'll try that right now10:52
ShadowkidBut I prefer GNOME10:52
blueyedXfce is also nice.. ;)10:52
IIIEarsyep10:52
hybrid_gothFunraiser: np10:52
dabaSlon_schlbunch are cool10:53
hybrid_gothblueyed: yes it is #UbuntuX10:53
IIIEarsdid you want the other one libdvdcss?10:53
Dekaydoes anyone know how much will be the compilation time?10:53
dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: you can also try one of the ones I said.10:53
shinuuh...10:53
Dekayp4 2.8ghz 1gb ram10:53
dabaSlon_schldekay, there is no compilation10:53
hybrid_gothShadowkid: kde usually appeals to windows ppl and gnome mac10:53
dabaSlon_schlshort:)10:53
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, which ones sorry?10:53
IIIEarsDVD decoding?10:53
Lafitte-Ali_Baba,  a bit tacky though10:53
Dekayno compilation?10:53
Lafitte-Ali_Baba,  but  im running alot of things10:53
dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: it is above:-p not typing again.10:53
shinuIIIEars: something didnt work xD10:54
FunraiserE: couldn't find package Kubuntu-desktop10:54
shinucan you try to send again pls?10:54
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dabaSlon_schlIIIEars: are you getting the dependencies?10:54
dabaSlon_schlsmall k, funraiser?10:54
Lafitte-yeah   totem  is a bit ugly but works    whats the best movie player for linux ?10:54
Lafitte-i need it10:54
ositydabaSlon_schl: ya i'll be here till the end of time trying to find someone that knows :(10:54
dabaSlon_schlLafitte-: best...10:54
Ali_BabaLatiffe:good10:55
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, :-)10:55
dabaSlon_schlosity:)10:55
Ali_Babamplayer and vlc are very good.10:55
dabaSlon_schlLafitte-: I use xine(I have them all installed pretty much:)10:55
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hybrid_gothAli_Baba: vlc is based on mplayer10:55
dabaSlon_schlosity, I suppose you googled by now?10:55
ositydabaSlon_schl:   how friggen hard can it be?  I've googled, goggled, babbled bibbled...you name it10:56
Lafitte-dabaSlon_schl,  xine-ui ?10:56
Ali_Babashinu: you should add marillat repositories.10:56
occyanyone know how to ssh with a ssh2 key file?  I have tried:   ssh -i sshkey.txt user@host     no worrkie10:56
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, there are many packages that are not installed when i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop...is it normal?10:57
osityit's going n 2 months of reading conflicting articles and not knowing which one to focus on10:57
dabaSlon_schlLafitte-: yes10:57
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shinuAli_Baba: last time they told me not to 0.o10:57
shinuAli_Baba: ok ill do that10:57
Tron|BoRGhybrid_goth: not for me, Im a windows user but like gnome much more :D10:57
dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: niot sure...do you have all rthe repos enbables?10:57
dabaSlon_schld10:57
Ali_Babashinu:theres some video stuff.10:57
dabaSlon_schlosity: where did you get a raid, anyhow?10:57
hybrid_gothTron|BoRG: yea but did you like windows set up?10:57
Lafitte-dab  oh yeah  hahha  totem is junk10:58
Tron|BoRGset up?10:58
Lafitte-dabaSlon_schl,  looks great10:58
Tron|BoRGoh10:58
hybrid_gothTron|BoRG: the look and feel10:58
shinuAli_Baba: great. im doing that10:58
Lafitte-dabaSlon_schl, problem solved  NEXT10:58
Tron|BoRGnot as much as gnome10:58
ositydabaSlon_schl:  what kind of question is that? that doesnt make sense.....10:58
dabaSlon_schlLafitte-: well, why I like it is the slow down function when playing, you hit down key on the kybrd:-[10:58
hybrid_gothTron|BoRG: yea most ppl that like windows look and feel so much perfer kde10:58
Tron|BoRG:)10:59
dabaSlon_schlosity: just wondering where one gets a raid drive:)10:59
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, how to be sure, how do i know in synaptic? i have many listed in repositories but are there more?10:59
Lafitte-dabaSlon_schl,    aww     i like th efact that its clear and soun dis in tim with th video10:59
ositydabaSlon_schl: raid is not a drive10:59
osityit is a way to setup more than one drive.....10:59
osityits a configuration10:59
dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: there is a file, called /etc/apt/sources.list that I use usually, there is a way through synaptic too,.10:59
Shadowki1What's better? Debian or Ubuntu?10:59
hybrid_gothShadowki1: stability or usabilty?11:00
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FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, should i allow universe and multiverse?11:00
dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: do a cat /etc/apt/sources.list , and paste that to http://pastebin.com please.11:00
Shadowki1Both11:00
dabaSlon_schlI would allow it yes.11:00
Ali_Babayeah,depends what you want.11:00
IIIEarsShadow - use what works - Ubuntu and and debian are almost the same11:00
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, k11:00
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hybrid_gothShadowki1: debian is *very* stable but Ubuntu is semi stable but more useable and newer11:00
IIIEars<< Ubuntu love! :)11:00
hybrid_gothIIIEars: the same?11:00
Ali_BabaUbuntu is great :)11:01
dabaSlon_schlosity, ah, so not even a specifically raid device?11:01
hybrid_gothIIIEars: Debian = Y2K11:01
IIIEarsaren't they nearly the same?11:01
dabaSlon_schlhybrid_goth: hehe...tell that to #debian11:01
dabaSlon_schlIIIEars: well, ubuntu is built on top of debian./11:01
Shadowki1If god had a computer, he would use Linux, not Windows!11:01
Shadowki1:-D11:01
hybrid_gothdabaSlon_schl: heh.11:01
IIIEarslol - tried a dozen+ distros only Ubuntu worked first time. - that is enough to make me a disciple. :)11:01
dabaSlon_schlhaha.11:02
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Tron|BoRGAli_Baba: I think so too !11:02
dabaSlon_schlIm on there now.11:02
dabaSlon_schlI helped one guy11:02
dabaSlon_schl:)11:02
Lafitte-dabaSlon_schl,  how i set the autoplay to us that program ?11:02
Lafitte-dabaSlon_schl,  i uninstalled totem  and totem-xine11:02
hybrid_gothdabaSlon_schl: one time i was goin to switch from mandrake to debian and was askin questionhs and got flamed like an SO well you know11:02
ositydabaSlon_schl:anyone can setup a raid configuration....11:03
dabaSlon_schlauto[play? double click? right click  on the file type(by extencsion) and choose properties, then the open with tab...11:03
dabaSlon_schlhehe, osity:)11:03
Shadowki1What do you think about commercial distributions like SuSE, Mandrake or Fedora?11:03
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ositydabaSlon_schl:welll ....if you know how that is11:03
dabaSlon_schlwhats an SO?11:03
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osityI cant seem to get it to boot of a raid setup11:03
hybrid_gothdabaSlon_schl: sob with out the b i was bein nce11:03
dabaSlon_schlyeah, I understand, you want to apply the concept of raid to your drives...11:03
hybrid_goth*nice11:03
dabaSlon_schlah, never read to the end, hybrid_goth:(11:04
osityi need to setup a software raid 1......that's what I need.11:04
hybrid_gothdabaSlon_schl: lol11:04
dabaSlon_schlim supposed to go to schl too:)11:04
osityanyone know how?11:04
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, ok done on pastebin.com name funraiser11:04
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dabaSlon_schlfunraiser, I would need the URL.11:04
Funraiserlol, k i thougt my name was enough http://pastebin.com/28671911:05
dabaSlon_schlShadowki1: I think personally, that there is no need to go with one of those...I dont know, not a bad thing for ppl that want theuir system to just work, and be half assed.11:05
hybrid_gothbrb11:05
dabaSlon_schl:)11:05
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dabaSlon_schlyeah, Funraiser, you have even more than I do...what was your issue again?11:06
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dabaSlon_schlI see up there.11:06
ubuntuubuntu rox11:06
Tron|BoRGubuntu: thats correct11:07
dabaSlon_schlOk, well, did you isntall the kubuntu thing, and tried getting it to login? try that, or give me the output of that command that said a lot of packages are not gonna b installed in a pastebin, just paste the whole output of the install there.11:07
anto9usubuntu: we know ;)11:07
IIIEarsHalf a##ed = Slackware, BSD, or Fedora11:07
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, i tried to install kubuntu but it says many packages are not installed11:07
Tron|BoRGubuntu: its my favorite so far11:07
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Tron|BoRGlol, yes - we know11:07
Tron|BoRGthats why were here :)11:07
dabaSlon_schlIIIEars: well, bsd cant fit there, but maybe...11:07
dabaSlon_schlbsd has its own kernel?11:08
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dabaSlon_schlnot even a linux...11:08
Ali_Babathats true Tron|Borg :)11:08
dabaSlon_schlwas it?11:08
ubuntui just got it in the mail....if i use the live cd can i save stuff and like use it over and over with the same preferences and stuff11:08
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Tron|BoRGhowever, fedora core 4 looks great11:08
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IIIEarsdabaSlon - check out the learning curve for an install - frightening.11:08
dabaSlon_schlubuntu, I dont think so...11:08
dabaSlon_schlIIIEars: it is a step by step install everything yourself type of deal.11:08
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ubuntuso i have to install to do that kinda stuff like safe games or what not11:08
dabaSlon_schlI think so anyhow.11:08
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dabaSlon_schlubuntu^11:08
hans_can i alien tgz.tar.gz packages into *. deb11:09
IIIEarsno kidding - i flashed back to attempts at installing RH 7.211:09
dabaSlon_schlhans, no.11:09
mariosNickServ luigi11:09
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, any ideas?11:09
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dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: paste the whole message you get to a pastebin, please.11:09
dabaSlon_schlalien is a rpm to deb program, but, man alien knows more, hans.11:09
aquariusI'm trying to compile a program which says "Could not find kernel includes in /lib/modules or /usr/src/linux"; which package should I install to get these headers?11:09
anto9usubuntu: I think you should be able to mount a drive after booting live cd and save stuff on it although I haven't tried it11:09
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Lafitte-dabaSlon_schl,  xine looks very good with deinterlacing turned on also11:09
hans_dabaSlon_schl: is there a way to install *.gz packages anyway?11:10
dabaSlon_schlit is a ziop file:)11:10
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dabaSlon_schlunpack, and tell me what is in it.11:10
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, http://pastebin.com/28672111:10
shinuyay everone! my mplayer is finally working!11:10
dabaSlon_schlLafitte-: I really only use movie players for stuff I could not caer less what the picture looks like...as long as there is some action:)11:10
shinuLafitte-: i did the thing on the site and apt-get install mplayer again. and its fine ^^11:10
hans_three  tgz packages11:10
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SeamusLTaquarius:  You need to get the kernel headers11:11
dabaSlon_schl.tgz inside the .tar.gz?11:11
hans_yes11:11
Lafitte-shinu,   sweet  :)11:11
Ali_Babashinu:thats good :)11:11
dabaSlon_schlshinu: sweet.11:11
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aquariusSeamusLT, I installed linux-kernel-headers but that didn't help.11:11
shinu^^11:11
Lafitte-shinu,  good site huh11:11
hybrid_gothBack11:11
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hans_dabaSlon_schl: yes11:11
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shinuLafitte-: yuh xD i knew about it... but as i used ubuntu i forgot... gotta use it more :D11:11
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funguythere :)11:12
m00glehello everyone :)11:12
shnazzlealoha11:12
hybrid_gothhi11:12
IIIEarsUbuntu Documentation is the best.11:12
Lafitte-shinu,    i went through and did everything i needed from there11:12
SeamusLTaquarius:  try getting the source for your kernel as well11:12
Funraiserif the guy who made the ubunguide.org site would get a penny each time he helped someone...11:12
dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: I would comemnt out marillat, and then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:12
funguyhey, if I have 2 sound cards, whats the easiest way to switch between which one is default ?11:12
Lafitte-shinu,  the third from last item  was a god fix11:12
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hans_can i alien tgz packages?11:12
aquariusSeamusLT, ah, OK. I didn't think I needed the whole kernel source if it was just asking for some headers.11:12
hybrid_gothIIIEars: i agree but debian has nice doc too and dang gentoo has a handbook11:12
dabaSlon_schlhans, can you paste the ls command to a pastebin.com?11:12
shinuLafitte-: great :D thanks a lot11:12
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funguyone is on the board and the other is just a soundblaster 16...it works...because i've installed flash and gotten sound out of it11:13
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funguyif i try and play a movie or something though in vlc I don't get sound....i get no gnome sounds either11:13
SeamusLTaquarius:  Hmm well hold that thought11:13
laosianosomeone knows how to share archives with windows boxes?11:13
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hybrid_gothlaosiano: samba11:14
dabaSlon_schlhans, tell me the file where you got it, and what is the name of the .tar.gz package, I am gonna install it myself.11:14
dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: get the meaning of the last message?11:14
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, yes11:14
SeamusLTaquarius:  You may be installing the wrong header package.  Try searching for linux-headers11:14
hans_dabaSlon_schl: its cedega11:14
tronddhybrid_goth: I wote for wlan roaming...11:14
dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: good.11:14
shnazzleanybody with experience installing Enlightenment Engage on hoary?11:14
dabaSlon_schlhans, k, where did you get the tarball from?11:14
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FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, the other one would be apt-get install xnest?11:14
hybrid_gothtrondd: yes that is a downfall but it is not as big as sound11:14
m00gleim new here. just installed ubutu a few days ago, so im a n00b so plays go easy on me. i do however have very busic linux skills11:15
laosianobut i cannot manage to configure samba to access my linux archives ffrom windows11:15
dabaSlon_schlthat is something else, you first have to have kde installed.11:15
neighborleeI lost url to cd eject coming out in future release..could original poster please re-paste that please ;-) ( i've googled and checked but i'm coming back empty)11:15
dabaSlon_schlFunraiser: do that real quick, you can always uncomment.11:15
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IIIEarsUbuntu's weak point is back up. - it takes time to tweak everything - one wrong site / IRC Channel  visited and everything is lost11:15
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hybrid_gothtrondd: i wish we had wardriving software exsepcially that would work on ppc. but more people want sound then wlan roamin11:15
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hans_can i alien tgz packages?11:15
tronddhybrid_goth: never had problems with sound... But a "silent" computer is no good....11:15
Tron|BoRGtrondd: i've got copyright on this name - watch out11:16
funguythere's nothing wrong with the sound card11:16
hybrid_gothtrondd: but *we* always get the sound working for them. _we_ cant do anything for wlan11:16
funguycard(s)11:16
funguyhow do I switch between default devices11:16
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hybrid_gothtoss up to the channel : Ubuntu's weak point...11:17
anto9useject11:17
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tronddTron|BoRG: mine is patended on all continents :)11:17
dabaSlon_schl http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/utils/eject11:17
Tron|BoRGtrondd: dammit11:17
dabaSlon_schljust in case noone got it.11:17
shnazzleso that's a negative on the Engage? :-)11:18
tronddTron|BoRG: even in my passport...11:18
Tron|BoRG*sob*11:18
hybrid_goth3lol11:18
hybrid_gothbrb11:18
IIIEarsSElinux is worhtwhile - but while exploit bullets are flying there isn't an OS out there that isn't going to get hit.11:18
dabaSlon_schlhans, well, tell me what exact name the file is.11:18
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Neil3evening all11:18
Tron|BoRGevening neil11:18
dabaSlon_schlhey11:18
shnazzlehey11:18
IIIEars"Back it up"11:19
dabaSlon_schlshnazzle: heh:)11:19
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hans_dabaSlon_schl: i installed it..thx anyway11:19
dabaSlon_schlsweet, good work11:19
dabaSlon_schlI gtg 2 schl anyhow11:19
Ali_Babafungyu: 4. System > preferences > multimedia: Select ALSA above, OSS below. This way you can record with your mic 5. After you've changed /etc/asound.conf, use Synaptic to perform a smart pakage install. Install the libesd-alsa0 and all dependecies. 6. That's it, no need to reboot11:19
dockanehas anybody tried vuescan ? amazing scanning software !11:19
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Ali_Babathats an example from ubuntu forums.11:20
hybrid_gothdockane: whats that11:20
hans_dabaSlon_schl: can i alien tgz to deb?11:20
dabaSlon_schlfunguy, switch which card you are using? sound card?11:20
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goldfishhans_: no11:20
funguyyes soundcard11:20
dabaSlon_schlhans, not sure, I dont think so, but, man alien knows better, for sure.11:20
goldfishhans_: you can unpack tgz and build it from source11:20
dabaSlon_schlfunguy: there is a post in the forums on 2 sound cards.11:20
funguyi have 2, one is built into the board and the other is a soundblaster11:20
funguylink ?11:20
foxinessafter i install mozilla 1.7 its default account for use now , than im created new one , after i close it and restart it its says 1.7 its now for use creat new one ?!11:21
lotusleaffoxiness, you probably already had it open at the same time you tried to open another11:21
Ali_Babafungyu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3007611:21
foxinesslotusleaf, no am not :)11:22
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dabaSlon_schlfunguy: there is another one, I have this one for now: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567.11:22
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dabaSlon_schlhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2656711:22
dabaSlon_schlthat one is for 2 cards.11:22
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dockanehybrid_goth, that's a commercial scanner software for linux. xsane is ok unless you do not need more than scanning for email/web/copy puposes, dia postitve scanning is imho impossible11:23
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl, what's the file, etc/source.list?11:23
foxinesslotusleaf, is ubuntu use mozilla "opensomething on background" use it ?11:23
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dockaneastonishing what vuescan does11:23
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lotusleaffoxiness, what language you speak native?11:23
Cyberatndiswrapper should technically just pick up the wlan after install and reboot correct in theory right?11:23
foxinesslotusleaf, russin :)11:24
lotusleaffoxiness, I see, I have problems understanding you then. :(11:24
lotusleaffoxiness, did you mean is mozilla preloading an instance?11:25
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foxinesslotusleaf, k thanks for try to help me11:25
foxinesslotusleaf, you get it11:25
lotusleaffoxiness, usually when I experience that issue it means there's already an instance loaded, try running top or a gui system monitor, look to see if mozilla is already running. yw.11:25
readamsanyone else seeing a crazy gtk2 keyboard shortcut problem on breezy from this morning?11:25
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hans_does any1 know how to install a lexmark allinone x74?11:26
lotusleafno but I enjoy breaking lexmarks apart with a hammer11:26
Fackamatohans_: huh?11:26
Fackamatoany1 <- wtf is that, never heard that word before. When did words contain numbers?11:26
leitao_i am using my ubuntu (hoary) box as a gateway (masquerading). i have only one nic. and my intranet internet access are too slow. any tip?11:26
afromanhallo there11:26
afromanI have a problem11:26
shnazzleI am buying a tv card soon (and am an incredible *nix noob). If I install my PVR-350, will ubuntu automatically recognize it?11:27
readamsI use one keyboard shortcut, but somehow gtk2 apps do something totally wrong11:27
DeFihans_, lexmark has linux drivers on their website11:27
readamsgnome-terminal closes the window on ctrl-shift-t11:27
readamsevolution runs the import assistant in response to any keyboard shortcut11:27
afromanI need to change resolution of my screen11:27
hans_DeFi: for all printers?11:27
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Fackamatohans_: why don't you go there and find out?11:28
DeFimost all of them, I just installed a T632 all in one11:28
hybrid_gothback11:28
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afromananybody...11:28
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DeFiafroman, sax211:29
zkruwgets this error everytime i try to launch k3b, k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqtmcop.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Anyone know how to fix it?11:29
^thehatsrule^afroman, if you cant use preferences in the gnome menu, change it in the xorg conf file11:29
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dcravenI'll tell ya what Lexmark can eat.11:30
readamsI know its not a keyboard mapping problem since firefox and metacity still work -- metacity doesn't use the gtk2 keyboard events but rather uses xlib directly11:30
readamsso its some sort of crazy gtk issue11:30
lotusleafI just finished watching The Simpsons in ASCII. I liked the part when @@ when doh! and ## said don't have a cow man and then && fell off the couch11:30
osirisHello people, i have come to ubuntu from Debian sid, i was wondering if there was any other repositries i could add because apt cant find most of the programs i would like.11:30
readamsadd universe and multiverse11:30
afromanthehatsrule: I tried everything I can... the thing is that the pref. won't give me a chance to choose to another resolution other than 64011:30
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goldfishah11:31
mariosif anybody has any questions please open a private chat11:31
Lafitte-afroman,  you need to select the resolutions during install11:31
marioscause I am out of here for a while11:31
nikolaushi all.... someone can tell me how to add a shortcut to the gnome applications/internet menu? thanks11:31
Lafitte-afroman,  what video card you have ?11:31
afromanlafitte- I know that...  I have voodoo311:32
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl4re, oh my god it works11:32
FunraiserdabaSlon_schl4re, (kubuntu)11:32
Lafitte-afroman,  why dont you tell us what you know  then so we dont suggest the wrong thing to you11:32
IIIEarsOooh - feel the power of "Mondo" backing up - *EVERYTHING* - Ye-es!11:32
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nikolaus!!!hi all.... someone can tell me how to add a shortcut to the gnome applications/internet menu? thanks11:33
digip1mpwhat do I install so that ncurses is there?11:33
Funraisercan't wait to see kde on my ubuntu11:33
^thehatsrule^.desktop files or smth?11:34
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StRhi there...11:34
goldfishhi11:34
IIIEarsUbuntu in suspened animation safe on DVD's - Huge Grin11:34
StRanyone with breezy?11:34
Funraisergdm means gnome display manager and kdm means kde display manager?11:34
Lafitte-can anyone suggest any games to install     hope they are in apt11:34
ximLafitte-, bzflag11:35
RiddellFunraiser: yes, login programmes11:35
anto9us<11:35
goldfishStR: not alot afaik, it's very unstable.11:35
StRI upgrader to breezy, and now X does not start.. problems with fonts...11:35
ximStR, read /topic11:35
afromanLafitte- I have tried the System-- pref. and I can't change from 640 because it doesn't give me any other to choose from. I tried to reconfigure xorg and yet still comes back to the same thing: gnome doesn't give me any more options. I tried then to reconfigure xorg manualy by changing a few line and nothing changed11:35
Lafitte-xim,  i love tank games  thanks11:35
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Lafitte-afroman,  laptop or desktop ?11:36
zenlunaticAny idea why my computer doesn't have sound with DVDs (multiple apps) yet has sound normally?11:36
afromanLafitte- desktop11:36
goldfishafroman: tried "sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorf" ?11:36
Funraiserwhere is dabaSlon_schl4re ?11:36
goldfish*xorg11:36
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afromangoldfish: tried that11:37
nikolaushow can i allow ROOT to login at the gdm?11:37
Lafitte-afroman,  for a test   do youhave any other video card to try ?11:37
goldfishnikolaus: gnome?11:37
Lafitte-afroman,  i mean   voodoo  is very old right ?11:37
dcravennikolaus: I hope you can't.11:37
goldfishyou can enable root11:37
Lafitte-afroman,  maybe can get a ati card in there to test   or somthing11:37
Funraiserwhat if i prefer kde ? is it cheating? :-/11:38
afromanLafitte- I don't think there is anything wrong with the card. it started when I put another screen on11:38
Lafitte-the monitor ??11:38
afromanyes11:38
Lafitte-ok  this tells alot11:38
afromanLafitte- such as???11:38
Lafitte-so what screen is it you put on11:38
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afroman1024x768 and 800 x 60011:39
RiddellFackamato: I would encourage that11:39
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FackamatoRiddell: ?11:39
RiddellFackamato: you can /join #kubuntu for KDE chat11:40
FackamatoRiddell: ?11:40
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afromanLafitte- wot can i do??11:40
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Lafitte-1 sec11:41
RiddellFackamato: ah, I see the problem, my tab completion isn't working.  ignore me11:41
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FackamatoRiddell: :p11:41
gelioshi all11:41
chetI finally have WEP working11:41
chetwhew11:41
chetTHE AP MUST be in open mode, not shared for wep11:42
chetsomeone should update howto's and faq11:42
Lafitte-afroman,  what if you change the file to only 1024x768 ??  what happens ?11:42
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Lafitte-xorg.conf i guess is the file in ubuntu11:42
shnazzlewhat is the big improvement over xfree86 anyway with xorg?11:42
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goldfishshnazzle: Real transparency.11:43
goldfishchet: Wep isn't much protection.11:43
goldfishVery easily cracked11:43
afromanLafitte- never tried, but I guess nothing, as now I have 640x400 and it isn't in the file11:43
Lafitte-shnazzle,  not sure     but    this laptop always needed tweaks  to run x   not it plugged11:43
chetgoldfish- yeah, but its better than nothing11:43
shnazzlegoldfish : really? it always looks to me as if it has to redraw the desktop in the back of the frame ontop of it11:43
Lafitte-afroman,  try to set only resolution possible to 1024x768 fro a test11:44
chetid like to look into wpa ?11:44
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Lafitte-afroman,  you will have to restartx11:44
goldfishshnazzle: if u use compositing u can get real transparency.11:44
goldfishchet: suppose :)11:44
afromanok11:44
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shnazzlegoldfish : haha...now yur just going out of my league ... i'll stick to learning how to use linux for now then get into compositing11:44
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Fackamatocompositing is excellent for crashing X.11:45
cheti posted on ubuntu forums about my config, and AP.  so i hope others benefit11:45
Fackamatoit's got no use at this time.11:45
_bthello guys. just installed ubuntu on my lappy. ive not used ubuntu before, i run fc3 on my desktop pc. how can i install nfs-utils on the laptop? apt-get install nfs-utils says no matching packages11:45
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goldfishshnazzle: nah man it's simple, i'm a n00b myself.11:46
goldfishshnazzle: u just download transset and xcompmgr through apt-get, and add a couple of lines to xorg.conf11:46
goldfishshnazzle: there's a good howto on the forums.11:46
gelios_bt: try to find out package by apt-cache search nfs command11:47
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chet_bt- i dont see nfs-utils11:47
_btthank yo gelios!11:47
chetis it the same as nfs-common?11:47
_btim not familiar with the apt commands11:47
_bti tried apt-get search nfs ,, lol11:47
chetapt-cache search nfs11:47
_btits the tools i want to use to mount an nfs directory11:47
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chetlook into nfs-common11:48
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chetshould be installed by default11:48
chetwondering, buy why nfs?11:48
gelios_bt: be my guest :))11:48
_btchet: as opposed to what?11:48
_btim sharing my music from my linux desktop to the lappy11:48
nikolausPLEASE tell me how to add a shortcut to the gnome/applications/internet menu       do i have to copy the shortcut in a specific (hidden)folder?11:48
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gelios_bt: u even find out what u need by apt-cache search <keyword> , keyword is not exactly package name11:49
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_btthanks ill go try that11:49
_btwhen i hear what chet has to say heh11:49
chetsamba?11:49
chetftp11:49
chetweb11:49
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_btsamba? err isnt that windows11:49
gelios_bt: yes, chet is right, I think nfs-common is what u need11:50
chetyeah, you have all *nix clients?11:50
_btyes11:50
_btwindows?!! are u crazy boy!!11:50
chetyeah, maybe nfs is right them11:50
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StRanyone here with breezy that solved the font 'fixed' problem ?11:50
mariosWHO SAID WINDOWS?11:50
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mariosLETS GET HIM :D11:50
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_bti just got a lappy off my mate, didnt even boot win2k, ubuntu went straight on11:50
_bthehe my thoughts exactly marios11:50
chetcan people download breezy? or only develoers?11:51
gelios_bt: try apt-cache show nfs-common :)11:51
jbalintHi guys, just installed this new Ubuntu, very nice, if people here work on it, good job.11:51
StRchet: anyone, but it is very buggy11:51
_btthanks ill go do that and report back. not got a wifi pcmcia in my lappy yet. so i have to go in the other room :(11:51
chetcool11:51
mariosofcourse, Ubuntu's the best :D11:51
Lafitte-_bt, yeah i had that issue last week   with xp on a laptop    i used ubuntu  worked fine11:51
darkauditonly m$ software that touched this box was a DOS floppy to update the BIOS11:51
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count0nzAnyone can install breezy but you realy shuld wait  a few days :) its kinda Borked11:51
nikolausPLEASE tell me how to add a shortcut to the gnome/applications/internet menu       do i have to copy the shortcut in a specific (hidden)folder?11:51
_btshould have used pc-dos , loser :P11:51
jbalintOnly thing I need to know is how to setup ssh server? There is no sshd in /etc/init.d.11:52
Lafitte-darkaudit, im very impressed11:52
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chetnikolaus- ddi you google gnome start menu configuration?11:52
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abbot45whats the terminal command to take a screenshot?11:52
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zkruwanyone having the w32*.deb packages?11:53
nickrudabbot45, gnome-screenshot11:53
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nikolauschat--yes i did but there is no explanation11:53
abbot45nickrud, thanks mang11:53
chetnikolaus- looking now11:54
Stealthanyone know how to log on to a WPA network?11:54
Stealthi got drivers and supplicant installed...11:54
nickrudnikolaus, there's a couple of menu editors, people here are recommending smeg11:54
nickrudand, /usr/share/applications11:54
shnazzleGoldfish : what exactly is that composite stuff?  I can install it...but I have no idea what it does :-)11:55
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mariosStealth,  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto11:55
chetnikolaus- http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/menuediting.html11:55
andre_rhi11:55
shnazzleGoldfish :just transparency?11:55
Kejk_PLzkruw, http://debian.udsu.ru/debian-soft/marillat/11:55
goldfishshnazzle: dunno, it gives you nice shadow effects and when used with transset, transparency11:55
goldfishshadow effects11:55
shnazzleahhhh. So that why I don't get shadows!11:55
shnazzlemysteries are solved on Shnazzle's comp every day11:56
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goldfishshnazzle: :)11:56
goldfishshnazzle: What graphics card u got?11:56
shnazzlegoldfish : radeon 9600 pro11:56
goldfishah right11:56
shnazzleI was waiting for that "ah right" or "oh....." or "really?....."11:57
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mariosreally?11:57
marios:)11:57
Lafitte-my system always needed to be setup for opengl      it just worked also this time11:57
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Lafitte-so ubuntu has a good idea11:57
Stealthmarios, i was looking at that but dont get it...11:57
Funraiserkubuntu looks really neat11:57
Stealthi set my router to have my laptop on a static ip11:57
Stealthso am i suppose to only follow the top part?11:57
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chetanyone have problem network browsing using nautilus?11:58
Stealthwhat kinda problems?11:59
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Amaranthchet: It seemingly randomly just stops working?11:59
holycowoccasionally it doesn't accept my  l/p for the windows network yes11:59
cheti click on server and it says cannot open XXX, file type is desktop config file11:59
mariosstealth: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11627.html11:59
Funraiserchet, yes reading files on a windows machine it says file doesn't exist11:59
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Funraiserchet, did u try to copy/paste the file?12:00

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