| mdke | hi all | 01:22 |
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| Burgundavia | salut | 01:23 |
| mdke | hi Burgundavia | 01:23 |
| mdke | how are you? | 01:23 |
| Burgundavia | not bad, yourself | 01:36 |
| Burgundavia | seeing the fun you are having with the html stuff | 01:36 |
| Burgundavia | thanks for doing all that | 01:36 |
| mdke | *grins* | 01:37 |
| mdke | the guy who wrote the html2pot script has identified 4 bugs in his script as a result | 01:37 |
| Burgundavia | this is a good thing --> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4563505.stm | 01:37 |
| mdke | he's fixed some of them and sent me a pot file :D | 01:38 |
| mdke | yeah definitely | 01:38 |
| mdke | sends good messages to both sides | 01:38 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 01:39 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.onlamp.com/pub/wlg/7106 | 01:39 |
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| jsgotangco | hello | 05:30 |
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| froud | African Greetings | 07:43 |
| Burgundavia | salut | 07:44 |
| froud | hi corey | 07:45 |
| froud | my bones ache ths morning, that goodness we have the last day today | 07:45 |
| froud | Got the opportunity to see maddog in action yesterday | 07:45 |
| froud | two win boys come to my stand and tell me how FOSS cant work | 07:46 |
| froud | so after about 20min explaining | 07:46 |
| froud | I see maddog take a seat at the IBM stand bnext door | 07:46 |
| froud | I greab these two guys and take them over to maddog | 07:46 |
| froud | explain the situation | 07:47 |
| froud | stand back andlisten and learn | 07:47 |
| froud | boy, those guys had no clue who they were talking to | 07:47 |
| froud | they got quite a shock when they found out | 07:47 |
| froud | who maddog is | 07:47 |
| froud | he explained why FOSS works in a very calm way | 07:48 |
| froud | and finally the two left with much to think about :-) | 07:48 |
| froud | sabfl was there in the morning, get his face on TV, again. He looks good under camera lights :-) | 07:49 |
| froud | third day in a row the TSF freedom toaster could not cope with the number of people wanting to burn a distro | 07:50 |
| froud | one disto has given away over 3500 CDs in three days | 07:50 |
| froud | I dont know how many the TSF freedom toaster burnt, but it is wll over a few thousand | 07:51 |
| froud | well, this is froud, reporting for #ubuntu-doc on the first LinuxWorld in South Africa. C ya and have fun | 07:52 |
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| jsgotangco | anyone have an idea on what collabnet runs on? | 08:57 |
| Burgundavia | founded by the apache guy, so it is probably apache | 08:58 |
| Burgundavia | runs linux | 08:59 |
| jsgotangco | im looking at the OOo files listing | 08:59 |
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| Kinnison | Hi guys | 11:03 |
| jsgotangco | Kinnison, hi how's friday | 11:04 |
| Kinnison | jsgotangco: Not bad thanks. A little tiring as days go, but there's always the heady promise of a sleep-in tomorrow morning | 11:05 |
| Burgundavia | salut Kinnison | 11:07 |
| jsgotangco | a dumb question: do i have to edit xorg.conf to force resolution mode since i am stuck in 640x480 | 11:08 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 11:09 |
| mdke | morning all | 11:09 |
| Burgundavia | gah, so many misinformed people on the forums | 11:10 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, so little time... | 11:12 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 11:13 |
| Burgundavia | I think I can enlighten some on the breezy forum | 11:14 |
| Burgundavia | that is my primary target | 11:14 |
| mdke | ;) | 11:14 |
| jsgotangco | you guys reckon a quickguide is good if it had quick how tos? | 11:15 |
| mdke | i think howtos need to be structured by content | 11:17 |
| mdke | in terms of organisation | 11:17 |
| jsgotangco | ok not full blow howtos, just snippets | 11:20 |
| mdke | not sure really | 11:21 |
| mdke | i think it is cool if the quickguide refers to the individual help for a program | 11:21 |
| jsgotangco | yeah its quite long though | 11:23 |
| Burgundavia | woot!!!!!! | 11:26 |
| Burgundavia | gnome-panel 2.11 just went into breezy | 11:26 |
| Burgundavia | we can now edit menus without a new tool!!!!! | 11:26 |
| mdke | if you run breezy you can ;) | 11:27 |
| mdke | good news tho | 11:27 |
| mdke | glad they've fixed it already | 11:27 |
| jsgotangco | w00t | 11:27 |
| jsgotangco | superb | 11:27 |
| mdke | oh yeah | 11:29 |
| === mdke checks email | ||
| mdke | bug 5471 | 11:29 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, you also subscribed to all of bugzilla.u.c? | 11:30 |
| mdke | *laughs* | 11:30 |
| mdke | not by any means | 11:30 |
| mdke | you crazy man | 11:30 |
| === Burgundavia also follows breezy-changes | ||
| Burgundavia | and ubuntu-devel | 11:31 |
| Burgundavia | and -doc | 11:31 |
| Burgundavia | I don't follow -users | 11:31 |
| Burgundavia | just subscribed to sounder | 11:31 |
| jsgotangco | i just get breezy digest | 11:32 |
| Burgundavia | bah, digest | 11:32 |
| Burgundavia | you need crack of minute | 11:32 |
| jsgotangco | bah try that on a 1024x768 laptop | 11:32 |
| === Burgundavia has always on, non-metered broadband, and a 1280X1024 screen, with gmail | ||
| mdke | Burgundavia, btw gmail is still quoting the entire of previous messages in your posts | 11:34 |
| jsgotangco | i should move in a developed country soon | 11:34 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, gah, stupid gmail | 11:34 |
| mdke | *grins* | 11:34 |
| Burgundavia | I don't see the quote, as it hides it by default | 11:34 |
| Burgundavia | very nice for me | 11:34 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, how come you don't use a client? | 11:35 |
| mdke | out of interest | 11:35 |
| Burgundavia | gmail is faster than evo | 11:35 |
| Burgundavia | and better | 11:35 |
| Burgundavia | and accessible from any location with internet access | 11:35 |
| mdke | gmail doesn't do reply to list | 11:35 |
| Burgundavia | yes, minor bug | 11:35 |
| jsgotangco | gmail is a bug by itself | 11:35 |
| mdke | or show quotes | 11:35 |
| === Burgundavia is waiting for hula to mature, before he jumps | ||
| mdke | i don't think its ideal for mailing lists | 11:36 |
| mdke | but it does pop ;) | 11:36 |
| Burgundavia | its speed and power make it very nice for managing mail | 11:36 |
| jsgotangco | its good for email conversations, not lists though | 11:36 |
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| Burgundavia | threading is very very nice | 11:36 |
| mdke | evolution does threading | 11:37 |
| mdke | i use it | 11:37 |
| Burgundavia | makes reading email a whole lot easier | 11:37 |
| mdke | most clients will do threading surely | 11:37 |
| Burgundavia | thunderbird doesn't | 11:37 |
| Burgundavia | by default | 11:37 |
| mdke | well nor does evo by default | 11:37 |
| mdke | only takes 2 clicks tho | 11:37 |
| mdke | also i find the lack of a reply all button in gmail strangely disturbing | 11:40 |
| Burgundavia | there is one | 11:40 |
| mdke | i can only see reply and forward | 11:40 |
| mdke | ah there it is | 11:41 |
| mdke | "more options" | 11:41 |
| mdke | btw corey i don't get the quotes hidden in my replies, i must have accidentally turned it off, not sure how tho | 11:41 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, hmm, ya, I haven't playing with any settings | 11:41 |
| mdke | couldn't see it in the settings | 11:42 |
| mdke | maybe the first time you switch it off, it remembers it | 11:42 |
| === jsgotangco uses thunderbird for gmail | ||
| jsgotangco | very nice thread support | 11:43 |
| jsgotangco | evolution doesn't play well with s/mime though | 11:44 |
| jsgotangco | but no problems with gpg | 11:44 |
| jsgotangco | thunderbird, well has enigmail which i really like | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | gmail has no pgp/gpg stuff, which hula will have | 11:45 |
| jsgotangco | yeah but where are you putting your hula by then | 11:46 |
| Burgundavia | on my own serer | 11:46 |
| Burgundavia | server, even | 11:46 |
| Burgundavia | I have a spare box currently doing nothing | 11:46 |
| mdke | is hula a webmail server? | 11:46 |
| jsgotangco | its a groupware server | 11:47 |
| jsgotangco | not technically groupware though | 11:47 |
| jsgotangco | but calendar and mail focused | 11:47 |
| mdke | does it do webmail? | 11:47 |
| jsgotangco | it does | 11:48 |
| mdke | cool | 11:48 |
| mdke | is it any good? | 11:48 |
| mdke | its gnome related isn't it? | 11:48 |
| jsgotangco | i think its usable now, the client does pgp in javascript | 11:48 |
| Burgundavia | well, our federal gov lives to rule another day, it seems | 11:51 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, that also means you have to trust your key to gmail, no thanks | 11:52 |
| jsgotangco | i like keeping my own key | 11:52 |
| Burgundavia | so do I | 11:52 |
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| Burgundavia | trust a key generated on a machine I don't control? | 11:53 |
| Burgundavia | are you mad? | 11:53 |
| jsgotangco | they can do that if they want to and people would say cool | 11:55 |
| Burgundavia | people are sheep | 11:55 |
| jsgotangco | i've denied assuring some people on CAs since they have no idea how to use it | 11:56 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, has the firefox hoary update been done yet do you know? | 12:11 |
| jsgotangco | in hoary? | 12:12 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, don't think so | 12:12 |
| mdke | i wonder why | 12:12 |
| jsgotangco | mdke, security patch? | 12:12 |
| mdke | do they have enough people working on security? | 12:12 |
| Burgundavia | they have one | 12:12 |
| mdke | i know | 12:12 |
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| mdke | people in -it are really whinghing | 12:13 |
| mdke | apparently lots of big companies have been advised not to use ff until it is updated | 12:13 |
| mdke | and also i think the mozilla website is out of commission to some extent | 12:13 |
| jsgotangco | patches are backported | 12:13 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, what does that mean? | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | you don't need to update the whole ff to put a patch | 12:14 |
| Burgundavia | means pitti takes a look at the security patch and applies it to our version of ff | 12:14 |
| mdke | yeah i appreciate that | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | our ff may stay at v1.02 but it doesnt mean that its not patched | 12:14 |
| mdke | i was thinking, has it been patched | 12:15 |
| jsgotangco | well im sure my ff was patched a few days ago | 12:16 |
| Burgundavia | I think they should backport ff regardless | 12:16 |
| Burgundavia | as it is such an important app | 12:16 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, i think that was another one | 12:16 |
| Burgundavia | there was a patch to .3 level | 12:16 |
| Burgundavia | and a patch to .4 level' | 12:16 |
| mdke | ok so it has been done | 12:16 |
| Burgundavia | but the 2nd one may not have been done yet | 12:17 |
| jsgotangco | you know a way to check? | 12:17 |
| Burgundavia | http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 | 12:17 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, apparently the mozilla site only permits browsing if you're using 1.0.4, does patching resolve that problem? | 12:17 |
| Burgundavia | security announcements | 12:17 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, not yet, but you can change the browser string | 12:18 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, so it will? | 12:18 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 12:18 |
| Burgundavia | no idea where | 12:18 |
| Burgundavia | currently ubuntu ff is patched to .3 level, it appears | 12:18 |
| jsgotangco | yeah i think its only .3 | 12:20 |
| mdke | ok i PMed pitti | 12:22 |
| mdke | seems he was unaware of the mozilla.org issue | 12:23 |
| Burgundavia | lol http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2005-May/029583.html | 12:23 |
| Burgundavia | that is odd | 12:23 |
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| jsgotangco | i wonder if jpilot can recover that | 12:48 |
| Burgundavia | gpilot can | 12:49 |
| Burgundavia | what is jpilot? | 12:50 |
| jsgotangco | its similar to palm desktop (the old one though) | 12:51 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 12:51 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 12:51 |
| Burgundavia | cool, we need something basic for breezy | 12:51 |
| jsgotangco | yeah the spec should be reviewed first though but i want to jump the gun on collecting data | 12:52 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 12:52 |
| jsgotangco | this shouldnt be that difficult (i hope) | 12:52 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 12:53 |
| jsgotangco | well im going ahead we're watching a movie later | 12:54 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 12:56 |
| Burgundavia | star wars, you bastard | 12:56 |
| jsgotangco | heck get out once in a while and stay in your own timezone | 12:57 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, whats up with star wars? | 01:26 |
| mdke | its out everywhere by now surely | 01:26 |
| Burgundavia | it is, but I haven't seen it yet | 01:27 |
| mdke | me neither | 01:27 |
| mdke | going today i think | 01:27 |
| Burgundavia | I think I will as well | 01:29 |
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| mdke | hi jiyuu0 | 05:56 |
| jiyuu0 | mdke, yes :) | 05:58 |
| jiyuu0 | X just crashed on breezy dist-upgrade | 05:58 |
| jiyuu0 | lucky was on a test machine | 05:59 |
| mdke | breezy = test | 06:09 |
| mdke | jiyuu0, just a thought: i was reading that translation thread | 06:09 |
| jiyuu0 | breezy = crash | 06:09 |
| mdke | jiyuu0, what do you think about people that say "can i translate the guide? sorry my english is bad" | 06:09 |
| mdke | we've had some problems in the italian team with translations which are totally wrong ;) | 06:10 |
| jiyuu0 | there's another thread on lookin for maintainer for amd64+ppc | 06:10 |
| mdke | for the guide? | 06:10 |
| jiyuu0 | yes | 06:10 |
| mdke | cool | 06:11 |
| mdke | anyway, answer my question ;) | 06:11 |
| jiyuu0 | "can i translate the guide? sorry my english is bad" maybe some one can proof read it | 06:11 |
| mdke | yeah | 06:11 |
| jiyuu0 | there are currently 13 (i think) translators | 06:11 |
| mdke | apart from the fact that i think its a waste of time to do 2 portuguese guides, but that is up to him | 06:11 |
| jiyuu0 | portuguese + brazil portuguese | 06:12 |
| mdke | yes | 06:12 |
| jiyuu0 | well... if he wants | 06:12 |
| mdke | sure, its up to him | 06:12 |
| jiyuu0 | true | 06:12 |
| mdke | jiyuu0, the great thing about getting the guide in rosetta would be that people can collaborate on translations, so check each others translations and work at the same time | 06:12 |
| mdke | jiyuu0, i've been working on the html2pot process a bit more | 06:12 |
| mdke | jiyuu0, so far, haven't got it working well :/ | 06:13 |
| jiyuu0 | i read it in the mailing list | 06:13 |
| mdke | i will write to the list later updating on what i've done since then | 06:13 |
| jiyuu0 | cool | 06:13 |
| mdke | jiyuu0, the html2pot maintainer has been working on it ;) | 06:13 |
| mdke | he's fixed like 6 bugs in his script so far | 06:14 |
| jiyuu0 | great | 06:14 |
| mdke | jiyuu0, if only the guide was in xml... | 06:14 |
| mdke | it would be easy | 06:14 |
| mdke | i don't know why there is a distinction, but there seems to be one | 06:14 |
| jiyuu0 | too bad no xml knowledge back then | 06:14 |
| jiyuu0 | else could have started with that | 06:14 |
| mdke | maybe future versions? | 06:14 |
| jiyuu0 | yub | 06:14 |
| mdke | jiyuu0, that would be great | 06:15 |
| mdke | ok | 06:15 |
| mdke | i have to go now | 06:15 |
| jiyuu0 | if the rosetta thing is good... will work on it for breezy | 06:15 |
| jiyuu0 | ok | 06:15 |
| jiyuu0 | c'ya | 06:15 |
| jiyuu0 | :) | 06:15 |
| mdke | my turn to see star wars ;) | 06:15 |
| jiyuu0 | hehe | 06:15 |
| jiyuu0 | spoiler: anakin turned to darth vader | 06:15 |
| jiyuu0 | :) | 06:15 |
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| mdke | :p | 06:15 |
| jiyuu0 | hehe | 06:15 |
| mdke | ok cya | 06:16 |
| jiyuu0 | c'ya | 06:16 |
| jiyuu0 | may the force be wif u | 06:16 |
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| k31th | lol | 08:34 |
| k31th | yeah i seen that two night ago | 08:34 |
| k31th | was awsome | 08:34 |
| k31th | anyone got mozilla suite | 09:13 |
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