[01:22] hi all [01:23] salut [01:23] hi Burgundavia [01:23] how are you? [01:36] not bad, yourself [01:36] seeing the fun you are having with the html stuff [01:36] thanks for doing all that [01:37] *grins* [01:37] the guy who wrote the html2pot script has identified 4 bugs in his script as a result [01:37] this is a good thing --> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4563505.stm [01:38] he's fixed some of them and sent me a pot file :D [01:38] yeah definitely [01:38] sends good messages to both sides [01:39] cool [01:39] http://www.onlamp.com/pub/wlg/7106 === mdke [~mdke@81-178-119-214.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-106.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [~mdke@81-178-119-214.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.210.26] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:30] hello === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.210.26] has joined #ubuntu-doc === _froud [~froud@ndn-165-128-37.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === _froud is now known as froud [07:43] African Greetings [07:44] salut [07:45] hi corey [07:45] my bones ache ths morning, that goodness we have the last day today [07:45] Got the opportunity to see maddog in action yesterday [07:46] two win boys come to my stand and tell me how FOSS cant work [07:46] so after about 20min explaining [07:46] I see maddog take a seat at the IBM stand bnext door [07:46] I greab these two guys and take them over to maddog [07:47] explain the situation [07:47] stand back andlisten and learn [07:47] boy, those guys had no clue who they were talking to [07:47] they got quite a shock when they found out [07:47] who maddog is [07:48] he explained why FOSS works in a very calm way [07:48] and finally the two left with much to think about :-) [07:49] sabfl was there in the morning, get his face on TV, again. He looks good under camera lights :-) [07:50] third day in a row the TSF freedom toaster could not cope with the number of people wanting to burn a distro [07:50] one disto has given away over 3500 CDs in three days [07:51] I dont know how many the TSF freedom toaster burnt, but it is wll over a few thousand [07:52] well, this is froud, reporting for #ubuntu-doc on the first LinuxWorld in South Africa. C ya and have fun === froud is now known as froud-away [08:57] anyone have an idea on what collabnet runs on? [08:58] founded by the apache guy, so it is probably apache [08:59] runs linux [08:59] im looking at the OOo files listing === BeerDump [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:03] Hi guys [11:04] Kinnison, hi how's friday [11:05] jsgotangco: Not bad thanks. A little tiring as days go, but there's always the heady promise of a sleep-in tomorrow morning [11:07] salut Kinnison [11:08] a dumb question: do i have to edit xorg.conf to force resolution mode since i am stuck in 640x480 [11:09] yes [11:09] morning all [11:10] gah, so many misinformed people on the forums [11:12] Burgundavia, so little time... [11:13] indeed [11:14] I think I can enlighten some on the breezy forum [11:14] that is my primary target [11:14] ;) [11:15] you guys reckon a quickguide is good if it had quick how tos? [11:17] i think howtos need to be structured by content [11:17] in terms of organisation [11:20] ok not full blow howtos, just snippets [11:21] not sure really [11:21] i think it is cool if the quickguide refers to the individual help for a program [11:23] yeah its quite long though [11:26] woot!!!!!! [11:26] gnome-panel 2.11 just went into breezy [11:26] we can now edit menus without a new tool!!!!! [11:27] if you run breezy you can ;) [11:27] good news tho [11:27] glad they've fixed it already [11:27] w00t [11:27] superb [11:29] oh yeah === mdke checks email [11:29] bug 5471 [11:30] mdke, you also subscribed to all of bugzilla.u.c? [11:30] *laughs* [11:30] not by any means [11:30] you crazy man === Burgundavia also follows breezy-changes [11:31] and ubuntu-devel [11:31] and -doc [11:31] I don't follow -users [11:31] just subscribed to sounder [11:32] i just get breezy digest [11:32] bah, digest [11:32] you need crack of minute [11:32] bah try that on a 1024x768 laptop === Burgundavia has always on, non-metered broadband, and a 1280X1024 screen, with gmail [11:34] Burgundavia, btw gmail is still quoting the entire of previous messages in your posts [11:34] i should move in a developed country soon [11:34] mdke, gah, stupid gmail [11:34] *grins* [11:34] I don't see the quote, as it hides it by default [11:34] very nice for me [11:35] Burgundavia, how come you don't use a client? [11:35] out of interest [11:35] gmail is faster than evo [11:35] and better [11:35] and accessible from any location with internet access [11:35] gmail doesn't do reply to list [11:35] yes, minor bug [11:35] gmail is a bug by itself [11:35] or show quotes === Burgundavia is waiting for hula to mature, before he jumps [11:36] i don't think its ideal for mailing lists [11:36] but it does pop ;) [11:36] its speed and power make it very nice for managing mail [11:36] its good for email conversations, not lists though === mdke nods [11:36] threading is very very nice [11:37] evolution does threading [11:37] i use it [11:37] makes reading email a whole lot easier [11:37] most clients will do threading surely [11:37] thunderbird doesn't [11:37] by default [11:37] well nor does evo by default [11:37] only takes 2 clicks tho [11:40] also i find the lack of a reply all button in gmail strangely disturbing [11:40] there is one [11:40] i can only see reply and forward [11:41] ah there it is [11:41] "more options" [11:41] btw corey i don't get the quotes hidden in my replies, i must have accidentally turned it off, not sure how tho [11:41] mdke, hmm, ya, I haven't playing with any settings [11:42] couldn't see it in the settings [11:42] maybe the first time you switch it off, it remembers it === jsgotangco uses thunderbird for gmail [11:43] very nice thread support [11:44] evolution doesn't play well with s/mime though [11:44] but no problems with gpg [11:44] thunderbird, well has enigmail which i really like [11:45] gmail has no pgp/gpg stuff, which hula will have [11:46] yeah but where are you putting your hula by then [11:46] on my own serer [11:46] server, even [11:46] I have a spare box currently doing nothing [11:46] is hula a webmail server? [11:47] its a groupware server [11:47] not technically groupware though [11:47] but calendar and mail focused [11:47] does it do webmail? [11:48] it does [11:48] cool [11:48] is it any good? [11:48] its gnome related isn't it? [11:48] i think its usable now, the client does pgp in javascript [11:51] well, our federal gov lives to rule another day, it seems [11:52] jsgotangco, that also means you have to trust your key to gmail, no thanks [11:52] i like keeping my own key [11:52] so do I === jsgotangco wonders if gmail would offer key generation in their servers soon [11:53] trust a key generated on a machine I don't control? [11:53] are you mad? [11:55] they can do that if they want to and people would say cool [11:55] people are sheep [11:56] i've denied assuring some people on CAs since they have no idea how to use it [12:11] Burgundavia, has the firefox hoary update been done yet do you know? [12:12] in hoary? [12:12] mdke, don't think so [12:12] i wonder why [12:12] mdke, security patch? [12:12] do they have enough people working on security? [12:12] they have one [12:12] i know === mdke considers petitioning canonical for a second [12:13] people in -it are really whinghing [12:13] apparently lots of big companies have been advised not to use ff until it is updated [12:13] and also i think the mozilla website is out of commission to some extent [12:13] patches are backported [12:14] jsgotangco, what does that mean? [12:14] you don't need to update the whole ff to put a patch [12:14] means pitti takes a look at the security patch and applies it to our version of ff [12:14] yeah i appreciate that [12:14] our ff may stay at v1.02 but it doesnt mean that its not patched [12:15] i was thinking, has it been patched [12:16] well im sure my ff was patched a few days ago [12:16] I think they should backport ff regardless [12:16] as it is such an important app [12:16] jsgotangco, i think that was another one [12:16] there was a patch to .3 level [12:16] and a patch to .4 level' [12:16] ok so it has been done [12:17] but the 2nd one may not have been done yet [12:17] you know a way to check? [12:17] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 [12:17] Burgundavia, apparently the mozilla site only permits browsing if you're using 1.0.4, does patching resolve that problem? [12:17] security announcements [12:18] mdke, not yet, but you can change the browser string [12:18] Burgundavia, so it will? [12:18] yes [12:18] no idea where [12:18] currently ubuntu ff is patched to .3 level, it appears [12:20] yeah i think its only .3 [12:22] ok i PMed pitti [12:23] seems he was unaware of the mozilla.org issue [12:23] lol http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2005-May/029583.html [12:23] that is odd === Burgundavia recently discovered his old data backup from his palm [12:48] i wonder if jpilot can recover that [12:49] gpilot can [12:50] what is jpilot? [12:51] its similar to palm desktop (the old one though) [12:51] ah [12:51] ok [12:51] cool, we need something basic for breezy [12:52] yeah the spec should be reviewed first though but i want to jump the gun on collecting data [12:52] ok [12:52] this shouldnt be that difficult (i hope) [12:53] yes [12:54] well im going ahead we're watching a movie later [12:56] ok [12:56] star wars, you bastard [12:57] heck get out once in a while and stay in your own timezone [01:26] Burgundavia, whats up with star wars? [01:26] its out everywhere by now surely [01:27] it is, but I haven't seen it yet [01:27] me neither [01:27] going today i think [01:29] I think I will as well === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.246.195] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-106.dsl.clear.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.245.88] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico_ [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:56] hi jiyuu0 [05:58] mdke, yes :) [05:58] X just crashed on breezy dist-upgrade [05:59] lucky was on a test machine [06:09] breezy = test [06:09] jiyuu0, just a thought: i was reading that translation thread [06:09] breezy = crash [06:09] jiyuu0, what do you think about people that say "can i translate the guide? sorry my english is bad" [06:10] we've had some problems in the italian team with translations which are totally wrong ;) [06:10] there's another thread on lookin for maintainer for amd64+ppc [06:10] for the guide? [06:10] yes [06:11] cool [06:11] anyway, answer my question ;) [06:11] "can i translate the guide? sorry my english is bad" maybe some one can proof read it [06:11] yeah [06:11] there are currently 13 (i think) translators [06:11] apart from the fact that i think its a waste of time to do 2 portuguese guides, but that is up to him [06:12] portuguese + brazil portuguese [06:12] yes [06:12] well... if he wants [06:12] sure, its up to him [06:12] true [06:12] jiyuu0, the great thing about getting the guide in rosetta would be that people can collaborate on translations, so check each others translations and work at the same time [06:12] jiyuu0, i've been working on the html2pot process a bit more [06:13] jiyuu0, so far, haven't got it working well :/ [06:13] i read it in the mailing list [06:13] i will write to the list later updating on what i've done since then [06:13] cool [06:13] jiyuu0, the html2pot maintainer has been working on it ;) [06:14] he's fixed like 6 bugs in his script so far [06:14] great [06:14] jiyuu0, if only the guide was in xml... [06:14] it would be easy [06:14] i don't know why there is a distinction, but there seems to be one [06:14] too bad no xml knowledge back then [06:14] else could have started with that [06:14] maybe future versions? [06:14] yub [06:15] jiyuu0, that would be great [06:15] ok [06:15] i have to go now [06:15] if the rosetta thing is good... will work on it for breezy [06:15] ok [06:15] c'ya [06:15] :) [06:15] my turn to see star wars ;) [06:15] hehe [06:15] spoiler: anakin turned to darth vader [06:15] :) === mdke slaps jiyuu0 [06:15] :p [06:15] hehe [06:16] ok cya [06:16] c'ya [06:16] may the force be wif u === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.60.49] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:34] lol [08:34] yeah i seen that two night ago [08:34] was awsome [09:13] anyone got mozilla suite === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.59.11] has joined #ubuntu-doc === k31th_ [~stealth@flashtek-uk.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.94.80.58] has joined #ubuntu-doc