[12:23] <\sh> mako is spamming the planet ,-) [12:25] \sh, hey, you are member now, give your rss feed url to jdub, so he can add it [12:26] hmm, looks like his blog is broken [12:27] <\sh> ogra: later dude :) but thanks for reminding me :) [12:28] <\sh> i'm thinking only to aggregate my ubuntu category, just because there's a lot of noise for the other stuff..or should i give the full blog rss? [12:30] <\sh> night gents...:) [12:31] hi === StR [~str@200.49.168.54] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] hi there.... [12:33] i'm using breezy, and want to report a problem with my X complainig about the font 'fixed' [12:33] X is not in universe [12:33] Amaranth: so, where should I report that? [12:34] bugzilla.ubuntu.com [12:34] StR, its known.... and expected [12:34] no need to report it === ajmitch feels the pain from that issue as well :) [12:38] heh, ajmitch it might get even worse :) who knows... [12:38] hopefully [12:39] changing such a big package as fundamental as daniels does must break... [12:39] pfft, it's worse [12:39] every shortcut key in gedit opens a new tab [12:39] C-s, C-x, etc [12:40] fixed fonts are less important :) [12:40] Amaranth, we get rid of all X11R6 dirs and incorporate x cleanly.... so modules might not be found or fontsettings etc [12:41] he is moving X into the real file tree? [12:41] yep [12:41] /usr/bin, /usr/lib, etc [12:41] wow [12:41] yes [12:41] various other packages have broken as a result of the directory change, as expected [12:41] I thought that was an X.org 7 thing [12:41] this is xorg 7 pre [12:41] o_O [12:42] orga: why dou you know that? where did you read that? [12:42] *g* [12:42] StR: because it's happening right now :) [12:42] we know everything. [12:42] (or in the changelog) [12:42] in the several discussions and meetings i attended... [12:43] ogra is in the inner circle now ;) [12:43] ajmitch: could you explane me what is happening? what is the real problem? [12:43] StR: X has been in /usr/X11R6 for time immemorable.. [12:43] we used to have /etc/X11/* and so on for all the X related things [12:44] so programs expect that [12:44] isn't this the kind of thing pkg-config was supposed to prevent? [12:44] if used properly, by everything [12:45] StR, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/XRoadmap [12:48] ogra: so... my breezy should work.. when? [12:48] StR, if daniels is ready :) [12:48] StR, and if the gcc4 transition is done... [12:49] about 1,5~2 weeks... [12:50] depends more or less on what breaks... nobody can tell... [12:50] StR, but thats the nature of a development distro :) [12:50] ogra: ok... just to know every1 knows about the problem... [12:51] StR, its even described in the roadmap... [12:52] ogra: I didn't know about the roadmap [12:52] so.. thanks [12:52] "break out protocol headers, fonts, documentation, xterm" [12:52] StR, i just posted the url above 10mins ago [12:52] 5 [12:52] ogra... so.. thanks <-- for the link you pasted [12:52] :) [12:53] sorry, my bad === StR needs a cigarret while thinking what he is going to do without X for 2 weeks [12:54] StR, the path X searches must be in the log... find the new path and make a symlink.... [12:54] (something with X11R6 and fonts in it :) ) [01:02] i just fixed my xorg.conf by hand [01:12] tseng: what did you do? [01:13] changed the paths? [01:13] to /usr/share/fonts [01:13] :%s/what/\/usr\/share\/fonts ? [01:14] oh man dont do that [01:14] /usr/lib/fonts [01:16] tseng: and only that? [01:16] thats all I did, yes [01:16] tseng: and restart X, right? [01:16] yes? [01:21] is breezy completely broke right now? [01:21] schweeb: yes [01:21] not completely [01:21] i.e. if I upgrade, will I still have enough functionality to have working X, tbird, gaim, and ssh [01:21] tseng fixed it [01:22] schweeb: with some hand job ... [01:22] omfgwee [01:22] StR++ [01:23] lol [01:30] /usr/lib/fonts/? [01:31] yes? [01:31] wtf were they thinking when they put fonts there? [01:31] dude [01:31] david fucking dawes [01:31] comeon. [01:31] don't know who that is [01:31] /usr/share/fonts/ makes more sense [01:31] xfree relicense? [01:31] "we dont need no stinkin gpl" === schweeb dist-upgrades to breezy [01:32] oh, the moron that made it illegal to distribute XFree86 with GPL apps that run on top of it? [01:32] yes [01:32] we'll see how horribly this goes [01:32] btw, that license sounds a lot like the OpenSSL one === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] 3hrs to breezy [01:38] hmm, it seems like lots of people are screwing with their blogs and totally breaking every planet i subscribe too [01:38] its normally not their fault [01:38] its the blog software [01:39] if they do something that changes their RSS feed i'd say it's their fault :) [01:39] i upgraded wordpress twice now with no such problem [01:39] ogra, ping [01:39] Burgundavia, pong [01:39] ogra, http://www.onlamp.com/pub/wlg/7106 [01:41] cool [01:41] open source maps.google! [01:42] http://maps.dmsolutions.ca/ [01:42] woah, thats cool [01:42] ya [01:42] panning without reloading [01:43] and mapserver is a pretty robust solution already, and this builds on top of it [01:43] yep, i once built a intranet mapserver based on it... it was already stable in 2000 [01:44] am going to add the info to UbuntuGIS [01:44] seen dredg? [01:44] nope [01:44] does that one have satellite images? [01:44] no [01:44] tseng, not since quite some time [01:45] Amaranth, good maps and images are still the expensive part on that [01:45] sat images are expensive [01:46] yeah, but they're the thing i like about google's [01:47] so you can look at things like http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.896741,-77.036594&spn=0.006137,0.009291&t=k [01:47] yep... air pictures too === StR [~str@200.49.168.54] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:47] btw, they changed the ammount you can zoom on that address [01:47] which ? the google map ? [01:48] the google map [01:48] you used to be able to zoom in closer on that address [01:48] the one google is showing, i mean [01:52] o :( [01:52] os/o/oh [01:52] http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-May/035933.html [01:53] oh no! [01:53] i lost my blog banner thingy [01:58] it was so cool and weird [01:58] gar [01:59] btw why are all the gtk+ keybindings barfed up [01:59] probably because of X issues :) [01:59] StR, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/XRoadmap === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0989.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] yo :) === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [~jaldhar@adsl-219-236-210.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] fun [02:10] :) === ogra [~ogra@p5089ED21.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === prevod [prevod@P1-230-20014.dialup.ns.ac.yu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek smacks Travis Watkins === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jay [~jay@208.60.223.246] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng_ [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AndyFitz [~andy@wlanconf-nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:06] HostingGeek: ? [04:06] Amaranth: ? [04:07] HostingGeek: You said my name. [04:07] HostingGeek: Actually, you smacked me. [04:07] Amaranth: You said my nick name. [04:07] err, what? [04:07] * HostingGeek smacks Travis Watkins [04:08] Amaranth: Actually, you beeped me 4 times. [04:08] I have no idea what you're talking about. === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] I AM PACKAGING XCHAT-GNOME [04:40] And I already have [04:40] No one else here should waste their time! [04:41] arghh seb128 can take it [04:42] I was packaging 0.3 but they didn't want me to... and now that 0.4 is out seb128 stole it from me === HostingGeek is now known as FlamingFoo3 === _abbenormal [~abbenorma@69.51.151.59] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FlamingFoo3 is now known as HostingGeek === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] <_abbenormal> ok one around to help with xfce4 === _abbenormal [~abbenorma@69.51.151.59] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-195-045.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] HostingGeek: seb128 is a packaging machine, you can't compete with him [05:29] Amaranth: he stole it from me [05:29] HostingGeek: I think I'd trust his package more than yours, see the machine comment. [05:30] HostingGeek: Don't suppose you know anything about implementing DnD with GTK. :) [05:30] DnD? [05:30] drag and drop [05:32] Amaranth: I know a tiny tiny bit... Like there is already such a thing and QT suck because it can't do it as good at GTK... [05:33] ok, i'll go find someone who knows what they're talking about :) [06:33] <\sh> morning gents [06:39] morning sir === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [06:40] <\sh> umm...looks like that I have to hurry up with showering and running into the office [06:42] go go go [06:42] <\sh> no :) [06:43] <\sh> I'm old need my peace right now :) at least to many over hours [06:43] hmm... seems like you want to be a Hartz4 victim :) [06:44] <\sh> dahane: hehe...no :) but with 40 hours on my gleitzeit table [06:49] what about making "blau" hehe [06:51] <\sh> no :) === mihaly [mihaly@parax20-070.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mihaly [mihaly@parax20-070.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:10] <\sh> ouch [07:10] <\sh> no peace at all... 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[04:03] I wrote a software, and also did an ubuntu package for it [04:03] and i'd like to know, what is needed to help him entering in universe [04:04] it's webpage is there: [04:04] http://gentoo.ovibes.net/nautilus-share/ [04:04] any advice is welcome! [04:17] SEBest, _you_ are the guy who wrote nautilus-share ??? [04:17] ogra: yes === ogra takes a bow to SEBest [04:17] great work ! [04:17] thanx :) [04:18] SEBest, i think seb128 in #ubuntu-devel would be intersted to meet you :) [04:18] ogra: i'm already in contact with him [04:19] yay [04:19] ogra: we are both french we talked on ubuntu-fr [04:19] we normally put new software on our MOTUNewPackages wiki page for reviews... [04:20] oki, let me check this page [04:20] but the reviews take quite some time since we are not many people yet, so if you could get a review from seb128 it would speed up a bit i think, he has interest to have it available in ubuntu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] ogra: oki, i'll add a line in the wiki, and ask seb128 for a review :) [04:22] yeah [04:26] ogra, should i put the adress of the .deb or of the website where all info about debs are? [04:27] SEBest, put a link to a webdir wher we find the source package on the site [04:30] ogra: oki i did it. [04:30] great :) [04:38] <\sh> hmmm... [04:39] <\sh> is there a possibility to load a new partition layout at runtime? or only after reboot? === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.146] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hatred [~Defiled@144.138.100.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Danten [~danten@h142n11c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [~shermann@xdsl-84-44-159-81.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] <\sh> grmpf [06:01] <\sh> i shot the server and the server doesn't respond anymore *sing* [06:01] <\sh> i hope the harddrive is not + [06:01] <\sh> broken [06:02] \sh: http://www.ncc.itgate.net/noc-humour.htm :) [06:03] <\sh> :)) [06:03] <\sh> i wonder what happend. ping is working...bit the rest not...so i think he hangs somewhere [06:05] <\sh> we will see...remote hands informed...waiting for call :) [06:07] <\sh> and funny thing: nmap says: no ports opened..i think this is the most secured server in the world..;-9 [06:08] the most secured server is the one with no network card [06:09] because you could still exploit a bug in the tcp/ip stack :) [06:09] <\sh> no ways it's ubuntu ;) [06:09] SEBest: thats hardly a 'server' ;) [06:09] siretart: but there it's neither a server :) [06:10] siretart: a server of ping :d [06:10] <\sh> funny idea behind it, before I rebooted, I had a spare gentoo install on this machine (on the second harddrive) and this install i decided to delete [06:10] icmp echo reply [06:11] if it pings, it means it started the boot sequence, it's not looked in a kernel panic or somehting [06:12] <\sh> but I have sshd etc. in the runlevels [06:12] no firewall? [06:12] <\sh> no === Hatred [~Defiled@144.138.100.72] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:12] is it waiting for an NFS mount that can't be reached? [06:13] <\sh> nfs? [06:13] <\sh> for what shoukld i use nfs :) [06:13] \sh you should install icmpsh :d [06:13] ok, so it's not that [06:14] I've had servers get stuck in the boot sequence attempting to mount an NFS share. they weren't remotely accessible since that happens before services like sshd are started [06:15] <\sh> well..the guy in the DC has to plug a screen...so he can tell me where the machine hangs [06:15] jamessan, it depends on if you mount them with nolock option or not [06:18] <\sh> ah remote hands calling [06:18] <\sh> ready for action [06:19] <\sh> i need a serial cable for the next time and grub must be enabled for serial output === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:20] <\sh> and the kernel needs to have serial output possibility as well [06:20] \sh, or an ip kvm [06:20] SEBest: I'll have to remember that next time I have such a server [06:22] <\sh> remote insight board ;) [06:23] <\sh> but it's friday .. so everybody's going out and I have to fight with boot problems === Lathiat [~lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] <\sh> looks like i have to go to the DC by myself...screen doesn't show anything === DanielN [~kodiak@80-218-243-68.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [~daniel@td9091a80.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:54] hellas [06:54] hey SEBest :-) [06:55] SEBest: seb128 showed me your NICE share-your-nautilus-stuff-webpage *ROCK* === chiefofthejojos [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:58] dholbach, we already have it on MOTUNewPackages ;) [06:58] WOW, ROCK!!! === dholbach bounces happily around SEBest [06:58] hehe [06:58] was that one of the Gnome bounties? === dholbach cannot tell [06:59] thanx dholbach :) [07:25] how's the feeling: when will we be done with the C++ transition? [07:32] doko: what did we decide on ancient g++ build-depends? dropping them? [07:33] dholbach: yes, why not [07:33] ok [07:33] mention it in the changelog [07:33] ok [07:36] doko: since when are you in debian? [07:37] do you recall a (internal) distribution name "frozen unstable"? [07:37] it shows up in the changelog :-) [07:38] in the old days uploads to more than one distribuition were allowed [07:39] oh nice [07:40] it was 1998 and it talks something about hamm, that's been a while === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC04EB.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:48] hello #ubuntu-motu! [07:48] hellas herve [07:48] hey herve [07:48] your patch didnt work .... [07:48] no! [07:48] nooooooooo! [07:48] too bad :-) [07:48] it couldnt apply at all [07:49] erm [07:49] silly me... did I reverted the sources beforehand... === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC04EB.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] dholbach, could you provide me ssh access to an amd64 machine? [07:51] herve: yes [08:00] doko: libsigc++ (in universe) doesnt seem to be on the list [08:01] doko: i add it, ok? [08:01] it's old, isn't it? should it go to the morgue? [08:02] gtkmm uses it (which imho should go to the morgue as well) ;-) [08:02] dholbach, i'm currently working on it... [08:02] (not gtkm2.{0,4}) [08:02] ogra: which one [08:02] there are some other libs depending on it [08:02] but its on the list... [08:02] wait [08:03] ogra: which package? gtkmm (source package, universe)? === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] doko, the debian sync have already been open? [08:04] herve: no [08:04] there about 30 "auto-installed" packages this afternoon, maybe more [08:04] don't we sync stuff from debian? i'm quite sure we do [08:05] that's how we got the MOM bugs :-) [08:05] I thought it was blocked during the transition [08:05] so I was suprised [08:06] and siretart (?) will be happy, londonlaw entered ubuntu :-) [08:07] yes :-) [08:07] dholbach, sorry, false alert, its libsigcx [08:07] ok [08:08] doko: we can' remove gtkmm just like that :-/ [08:09] doko: i'll try building it with a newer libsigc++ [08:09] herve: yeah! :) [08:10] but londonlaw is uncritical, it's an arch: any package (python game) [08:10] that reminds my I should refreshen and package mine [08:11] (refresh... don't pay attention, I'm drunk!) [08:11] herve: but no C++ stuff [08:11] ha ok [08:11] there's a fine blacklist === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0989.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] yo ivoks! [08:16] herve: [08:16] hi [08:16] what's up? [08:16] i was in austria today [08:17] nice [08:18] i have to work on my german... [08:18] i forgot lot of words :( [08:18] how to say "beer"? :-) [08:18] hm :) [08:19] bier [08:20] I find strange ubuntu-desktop already pushes OOo 2 [08:20] sure we're using breezy, but it's not stable enough [08:21] i don't care.. [08:21] i'm not using office apps [08:21] :) [08:22] hmm... I can't transition tulip, I need other libs to transhumance first [08:22] i know :) [08:23] finally!!!!!! [08:23] ipw2200 supports monitor mode [08:24] whichs brings? [08:25] kismet will work on ipw220 based cards [08:25] so will airsnort [08:28] ok, not really useful for me [08:28] it is for me :) [08:36] hm... herve do you know networking? :) [08:37] I just want it to work and give me no problem :-) [08:37] heh... you are blessed :) [08:38] I always connect from the same point with my ipw2200 [08:38] so I don't know the joice of configs, keys, and the like [08:39] i move my lap between varius networkg [08:39] networks... [08:40] your lap, you sure? [08:40] -:) [08:40] ? [08:41] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lap [08:41] ah... [08:42] i hate remote reboot :( [08:43] you newer know is everything going ok... then that tention... [08:43] and "omg, it should be up by now..." [08:43] it's like russian roulette :-) [08:43] doko: libsigc++ needs to be transitioned [08:44] uh... it's still not up :( [08:45] come on.... I don't want to go to the other side of town [08:45] ivoks, you're like a parent wondering why his child hasn't come home yet :-) [08:45] :) [08:45] herve: well... it's something like that [08:46] omg... [08:46] it didn't boot [08:46] why, god, why me?! [08:47] herve: that's router for over 300 machines :) [08:47] did you updated lilo? :-p [08:47] i didn't change kernel at all [08:47] (update) [08:47] fsck? [08:47] hm... [08:48] that was the 30th reboot! [08:48] could be... he was up for long long time [08:48] or 31, depending on the config, anyway [08:48] but 10 minutes is too mucj [08:48] man... fu....c.....k.... [08:49] I saw devices to transfer screen output over the network [08:49] shit, i have to fix that... no mails, no web of my faculty till then [08:49] time to go.... [08:49] bye [08:50] then the machine just went up... [08:50] :-) === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-8.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] yo tritium! [08:51] tritium: hey michael [08:51] hi herve and dholbach :) [08:52] dholbach, how's the school work coming along? [08:53] tritium: slowly evolving... [08:53] tritium: how's yours? [08:54] dholbach, oh, it's got me pretty concerned/stressed [08:55] tritium: i can absolutely understand... === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0989.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] hm... [08:58] it looks like 161.53.50.2 is down... === ivoks_ [~ivoks@lns01-0989.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] dholbach: do you convert libsigc++? [09:01] doko: it's a HORRIBLE MESS [09:01] but i take care of it === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] doko: can i please do additional changes to the package? [09:35] doko: it hurts my eyes... badly [09:35] :)) [09:35] doko: there's a complete debian/libsigc++/usr/share/... [09:37] ok, maybe i'll to a c++ changes only upload and another one ;-) [09:39] dholbach, is this libsigc++-1.2 ? [09:40] no, libsigc++ [09:40] (source package) [09:40] hrm [09:40] pourquoi? [09:41] libsigcx uses it [09:44] so i better get a move on, right? [09:45] what am i suppoised to do with blam [09:45] no, libsigc++-1.2 is already transitioned [09:45] but libsigcx doesnt build.... [09:45] gaaah! g++ won't let me cast an object to unsigned [09:46] let it mind its own business! :-) [09:46] ah ok, ogra [09:46] tseng, reading feeds ? [09:46] no, c++ [09:47] I guess an unsigned int is 64-bit long on amd64 and ia64? [09:48] tseng, only waiting helps.... [09:48] ok... [09:49] bbl then [09:49] hm. I just found 2 minor bugs in mythtv source package, both causing FTBFS [09:50] do you know how to solve it? [09:51] herve: yes, both affect amd64, probably only. [09:52] herve: one is a build dependency, the other one is a wrong compiler flag [09:52] still compiling here, but looking good [09:52] I'll happily sponsor your upload if needed [09:53] great :) - but you know, its mdz's baby ;) [09:53] I step back then :-) [09:54] lol [09:54] you can write him an email after you fixed it :-) [09:56] I hope he's not too overworked with breezy, but emails are patient ;) [09:58] I quit, C++ hell is out of my skill [10:00] siretart, he shouldnt be overworked since hes on holiday, but he'll have to catch up with a week of mail ;) [10:01] he's fast at writing mails :-) [10:01] he reads -users mails ;) [10:02] oh. good to know :) [10:03] <|QuaD-_> how well does hula work? is it buggy? [10:03] theorically speaking, of course not :-) === Amaranth hopes g++4 is the last time they break ABI for a _long_ time [10:09] ../sigcx/tunnel.h:223: error: no matching function for call to 'pack(SigC::Slot1&, const std::basic_string, std::allocator >&)' === ogra cries [10:09] and I was complaining! [10:09] :-) [10:09] |QuaD-_, i didnt try to mail with it, but when i tested the package it worked well out of the box === jinty [~jinty@haydn.debian.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] <|QuaD-_> ogra: nice === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0631.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [~shermann@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] <\sh> re [11:17] yo \sh! [11:17] <\sh> the server is up and running again... [11:17] hey \sh [11:17] <\sh> nice pitfall at least [11:18] \sh: a really nice blog entry! [11:18] <\sh> hoo? [11:18] \sh: thanks :-) [11:18] <\sh> ah u mean on linux.blogweb.de :) [11:18] planet.ubuntu.com :-) [11:19] <\sh> yeah its working and ogras artwork as well...:) [11:19] <\sh> thx to u guys :) [11:20] you did it yourself :-) [11:21] <\sh> :) [11:21] <\sh> and today i had this supergau ;) [11:22] <\sh> rebooted the server and hotplug bugged my machine [11:22] \sh, looking at your site, you're a trekkie? :-) [11:23] <\sh> herve: hehe...no not et al but I like the series...but really no hardcore trekkie [11:24] nor do I [11:24] but I like the humanity in stng [11:24] the original series is just by far too ridiculous [11:24] you have to see it in historic context :-) [11:25] sure, I can forgive them :-) === chiefofthejojo1 [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:26] chief! [11:26] hi! [11:26] welcome back! :-) [11:26] :) [11:26] thank you very much [11:26] :-) [11:26] oh, hi chiefofthejojo1 [11:26] hi ogra [11:27] I've been reading up on packaging so that I can try and help with that [11:27] of course! [11:28] you don't have to package new packages from scratch, you can rather start fixing existing ones [11:28] it's much easier [11:28] ohhhh. ok [11:28] so, is there a list somewhere? [11:28] yep [11:28] there are lots of bugs on malone, even easy ones, UniverseCxxTransition on the wiki is another big target [11:29] I'm having a little trouble navigating the wiki, I couldn't find the list of packages that need help [11:29] what's malone? [11:29] and some integrate patches into newer debian versions on bugzilla [11:29] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs [11:29] oh === Firetech [~Firetech@h248n2fls302o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rtcm [~jman@217.129.142.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:30] <\sh> ok..guys..one puzzle for the evening [11:30] ohhhh, i get it [11:31] what's the puzzle \sh? [11:32] <\sh> ok..kernel is booting [11:32] <\sh> hotplug is starting [11:32] <\sh> and ohci driver is sending to screen: "awake" [11:32] <\sh> 20-30 times per second [11:32] <\sh> epox server board , amd cpu [11:32] ohci? [11:33] it's a usb screen? :-) [11:33] sorry, that's over my head [11:33] <\sh> over my head as well [11:33] <\sh> shell is there no problem [11:34] <\sh> but everything else is not working...eth0 device (realtek) is not communicating with the network nothing [11:34] \sh, isn't that the famous inotify mess? [11:34] now, that's strange [11:35] <\sh> i don't really know..i never saw those strange behaviour [11:35] <\sh> after I stopped hotplug it was working as expected [11:36] what device are you hotplugging? [11:37] \sh, custom kernel? [11:38] <\sh> no...just plain i386 ubuntu kernel :) [11:39] <\sh> chiefofthejojo1: officially no one...after my first boot of ubuntu on this server, hotplug wasn't even enabled === herve trying to remember when and how the inotify mess happened [11:40] so no device.. this is purely a software error with hotplug? [11:40] <\sh> chiefofthejojo1: the board itself has uhci and ehci devices on board (normal stuff) [11:40] <\sh> ohci is i think usb compaq special stuff [11:41] \sh, it's the official ubuntu kernel? [11:41] <\sh> herve: yes [11:41] well, I had it too when it happened [11:41] but only gamin lost its mind, not the kernel [11:41] oh, ok [11:41] <\sh> so normally, ohci should be triggered in any way...only in the detect mechanism in the beginning...and normally he should throw away the ohci stuff [11:42] herve: the inotify stuff i saw was the 2.6.11 kernel in hoary messing up when GNOME started and hard locking the machine [11:42] <\sh> i think my colleagues have another board of this in another testing machine...tomorrow i will bug them and ask for it to test it [11:42] herve: are you talking about something else? === \sh doesn't have any X starting at all :) i hope i removed all gnome and X stuff after debootstrapping ubuntu [11:43] Amaranth, I was trying to remember [11:43] err, none of that stuff would be installed if you booted the installer with the server option [11:43] I also remember the kernel wilding printing messages on the console [11:43] so it would be at a later occasion... [11:43] <\sh> Amaranth: I can't use a cd during remote install [11:45] <\sh> Amaranth: and we should try to change base-config...to have a choice between plain ubuntu-desktop and pure server install [11:45] <\sh> not only on cd [11:45] \sh, you have some "server" option at boot up [11:45] herve: not if he didn't use the CD [11:46] \sh: wait, you mean you did the debootstrap in a chroot over SSH madness? [11:46] okay, it's sign I must go to bed :-) [11:46] night all [11:46] night herve [11:47] <\sh> Amaranth: sure...from gentoo via ubuntu debootstrap over ssh ;) === |zzzzz [~opera@ppp2B95.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:47] \sh: you're nuts [11:47] <\sh> Amaranth: it worked === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-8.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [11:48] <\sh> after 2 hours I transfered all data from gentoo to ubuntu with all services running (ok cyrus imapd package i build from debian experimental) [11:48] <\sh> apache2, php, mysql,bind,jabberd2 with all transports, and a couple of other things :) [11:49] <\sh> postfix + smtp auth + ssl/tls + cyrus imapd (ssl/tls) + amavisd-new and AntiVir [11:49] <\sh> everything is running [11:50] good night pals, i'm off to bed [11:53] so, what did you do to fix it, \sh? sorry i went away for a bit [11:56] \sh, hotplug != hotplug [11:57] huh? [11:58] \sh, ubuntus hotplug loads the modules for a lot of devices... it has not very much to do with hotplugging, even if it supports hot pluggable devices too [11:58] <\sh> chiefofthejojo1: as I said: /etc/init.d/hotplug stop [11:58] <\sh> ogra: it was the ohci driver who went mad [11:58] <\sh> he wrote on the screen: wakeup [11:58] <\sh> and this 20 to 30 times per second [11:58] \sh, put it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist then [11:59] <\sh> ogra: well i don't need hotplug at all ;) [11:59] but dont switch off hotplug completely... [11:59] <\sh> why not? [11:59] <\sh> I only need the realtek driver [11:59] <\sh> 8139too [11:59] udev/hotplug and the kernel are a team.... [11:59] <\sh> grmpf [11:59] <\sh> so i have to blacklist all modules I don't need [12:00] no, only the ones that autoload... [12:00] .... because the hw is there but you dont want to use it.... [12:01] others arent autoloaded because they arent needed... [12:01] <\sh> ogra: i have 8139too in my /etc/modules [12:01] <\sh> where r the modules defined which are able to autoload via hotplug?