| mjg59 | fabbione: I just got an oops in inotify | 01:12 |
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| mjg59 | I tried unmounting an ntfs partition | 01:12 |
| mjg59 | (this is 2.6.12 as of Wednesday) | 01:13 |
| jbailey | There's no __NR_sigaction on x86_64. Does the 32-bit emulation on amd64 promise to do all to 32bit syscalls? | 01:14 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey: I would think so, yes. | 01:15 |
| Mithrandir | it's supposed to be a 100% emulation | 01:16 |
| jbailey | Oh good. =) | 01:16 |
| jbailey | So now all we need is glibc headers that DTRT. | 01:16 |
| jbailey | Mithrandir: Is there any hope of us doing multiarch at least a little bit for Breezy? =) | 01:16 |
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| Mithrandir | jbailey: you mean "a little bit more"? :) I'm hoping to get some time allocated for actually coding up a bit once I'm done with my thesis | 01:17 |
| Mithrandir | doing binutils + gcc support should either already be there or easily fixed. | 01:17 |
| jbailey | Mithrandir: I'd love to see at a base just have gcc look in the multiarch directories for -m64 and -m32 as well as the standard directories. | 01:18 |
| jbailey | We can then take the current biarch packages and have it put things in the right places. | 01:18 |
| jbailey | Including all the header files and such. | 01:18 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey: get doko to apply a set of fixes from http://arch.err.no/index.cgi/tfheen@idi.ntnu.no--2005/gcc-debian--multiarch--3.4 and you're set. | 01:18 |
| jbailey | Nothing from dpkg would need to be touched, basically just gcc, glibc, lkh, ncurses and zlib. | 01:18 |
| jbailey | And it's all stuff we could do in our sleep today. | 01:18 |
| Mithrandir | that's easy enough to do, sure. | 01:19 |
| jbailey | I suspect that doko's current libjava on 32 bit arch problem will give him incentive to say yes. =) | 01:19 |
| Mithrandir | heh :) | 01:19 |
| Mithrandir | this won't give you coinstallability until dpkg is fixed, though | 01:20 |
| jbailey | He's running into the fact that i386 and amd64 aren't like ppc, sparc and s390 in glibc. | 01:20 |
| Mithrandir | oh, fun | 01:20 |
| jbailey | Noone in glibc land ever intended it to be a biarch arch AFAICT. | 01:20 |
| jbailey | So the headers don't seem to easily cope with each system. | 01:20 |
| Mithrandir | which is the reason for the crack in amd64-libs-dev to divert headers and such? | 01:21 |
| jbailey | Partly, but mostly amd64-libs crack is due to the fact that Sarge wasn't shipping with amd64. | 01:21 |
| Mithrandir | that too | 01:21 |
| jbailey | So no compiler support, so no way to make proper biarch packages. | 01:21 |
| Mithrandir | true | 01:22 |
| Mithrandir | it's also aiming for a bit more than ia32-libs-dev which is "this is enough to give you a crosscompiler" | 01:22 |
| jbailey | Right. =) | 01:33 |
| jbailey | So assuming doko agrees, that patch is all that needs to be applied to 3.4 to make it look in /usr/include/${GNU_ARCH} and /usr/lib/${GNU_ARCH} before the regular search paths? | 01:34 |
| Mithrandir | you need to fix up binutils too, but yes. | 01:36 |
| jbailey | Right - for ls/. | 01:37 |
| jbailey | ld. | 01:37 |
| Mithrandir | in the cases of people calling ld directly, for instance. | 01:37 |
| Mithrandir | gcc DTRT and passes the right parameters, but it's not always enough | 01:37 |
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| fabbione | morning | 05:55 |
| fabbione | mjg59: i have an inotify update pending for the next upload. | 06:14 |
| fabbione | mjg59: but i can't upload yet. | 06:14 |
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| zul | hey | 06:24 |
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| zul | blah | 09:40 |
| jbailey | Can the ia64 kernels run i386 binaries if the appropriate libraries are hanging around? | 11:40 |
| doko | jbailey, they should | 11:41 |
| jbailey | doko: I'm just wondering how many multiarch setups we'll need. I imagine the trouble you're running over with OOo is going to have to be repeated for ia64 at some point. | 11:42 |
| doko | hmm, who does run OOo on ia64? ;-) | 11:46 |
| Mithrandir | doko: insane people. That means, everybody who uses ia64. | 11:46 |
| jbailey | Mithrandir: That's not fair. I don't use OOo anywhere, much less on my ia64. =) | 11:47 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey: well, you're a glibc hacker so you're insane, hands down. :-) | 11:48 |
| jbailey | ;P | 11:48 |
| Mithrandir | actually, I didn't say that everybody with an ia64 used ooo, just that they were insane. | 11:49 |
| doko | Mithrandir: amu reports 100% CPU usage when installing the new bash package on amd64, can you confirm that? | 11:49 |
| Mithrandir | doko: just installing it? | 11:49 |
| doko | no, using it | 11:49 |
| Mithrandir | give me a few secs | 11:49 |
| Mithrandir | just by launching it and running some commands? | 11:51 |
| Mithrandir | if so, can't duplicate. | 11:51 |
| doko | hmm, strange, maybe you could ask amu tomorrow | 11:52 |
| Mithrandir | I'll try to remember. | 11:52 |
| doko | thanks | 11:54 |
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