[12:28] <cartel_> yay
[12:29] <cartel_> congrats on the quick turnaround for msn bug
[12:29] <cartel_> Riddell: but my bugs still arent fixed ;) do you want me to work on kdevelop sometime?
[12:29] <Riddell> cartel_: sure
[12:29] <Riddell> cartel_: check to see that Debian doesn't have better packages first
[12:46] <cartel_> i did, read bug report, its fixed in sid
[12:47] <cartel_> debian packages Just Work(tm), universe packages Almost Work
[12:47] <Riddell> cartel_: which problem?
[12:48] <cartel_> missing SVN support and bung help browser
[12:49] <Riddell> cartel_: right, well make a report on bugzilla.ubuntu.com pointing to the fix for the packaging
[12:54] <cartel_> i tried and got told to use malone
[12:54] <Riddell> ah yes
[12:55] <Riddell> try making a report on malone I guess
[12:56] <cartel_> i did you didnt act on it
[12:57] <Riddell> I havn't found my way around malone yet, search has never worked for me
[12:57] <Riddell> but also I havn't made any new packages, but I'll be looking through malone/bugzilla when I make the 3.4.1 packages
[12:57] <hunger> Riddell: Yeap, malone is still very raw:-(
[12:59] <cartel_> what the hell
[12:59] <cartel_> malone ate my bug report
[01:00] <cartel_> its bugs 331 and 332
[01:00] <cartel_> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/331
[01:00] <cartel_> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/332
[01:01] <KaiL> hmm, I can't say, that page is easier to read than bugzilla
[01:03] <Riddell> no
[01:03] <Riddell> thanks cartel_ 
[01:04] <cartel_> anything is easier to use than bugzilla
[01:05] <Riddell> KDE bugzilla seems to be pretty easy
[01:05] <Riddell> maybe I'm just used to it
[01:05] <Riddell> and KDE doesn't have 10,000 packages
[01:05] <Riddell> or any upstreams to track
[01:06] <KaiL> cartel_: does malone fill your screen with scrollbars?
[01:06] <cartel_> KaiL: yes
[01:11] <Riddell> must be about sleep time
[01:11] <KaiL> not for cartel_  *g*
[01:11] <KaiL> he has it behind
[01:13] <cartel_> yeah i got to work an hour ago
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[12:54] <amu> moin'
[12:56] <hunger> moin.
[01:26] <JRe> mornining
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[01:31] <Riddell> hi doko_, what can we do to help the c++ transition?
[01:32] <doko_> Riddell, convert some libraries in  universe, which are not yet done, maybe. but that's universe, not main
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[03:18] <JRe> Riddell: is there some things to do on the kubuntu wiki?
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[03:20] <Riddell> JRe: how do you mean?
[03:20] <JRe> a page to update or to create, things like that
[03:20] <JRe> Riddell: 
[03:22] <Riddell> JRe: you could search for new kubuntu stuff on kde-look and add it to the user section of KubuntuArtwork
[03:22] <JRe> Riddell: yeah good idea
[03:27] <hunger> The autobuilders are still leashed, aren't they?
[03:33] <JRe> how that's why the build log doesnot have change  ;)
[03:38] <JRe> ho no it does have changed
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[03:55] <JRe> Okay KubuntuArtwork updated (there is some new good work!)
[04:08] <JRe> how new release of kftpgrabber ;)
[04:13] <uniq> the last one didn't start on amd64.
[04:14] <JRe> wow bad!
[04:14] <JRe> it compiled at least?
[04:19] <uniq> yes.. 
[04:19] <uniq> but segfaulted.
[04:22] <JRe> i will tell that to the upsteam
[04:23] <JRe> i am going to build the new package could you test it when it'll be ready?
[04:25] <uniq> sure.
[04:25] <JRe> uniq: thanks ;)
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[04:42] <amu> finally knetworkconf is in 
[04:44] <JRe> amu: ;)
[04:44] <Riddell> wow
[04:45] <amu> x-org blocks everything :(  
[04:46] <KaiL_> now there's only the delete friendly kdelibs4 left?
[04:46] <JRe> uniq: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/kftpgrabber -> brand new version
[04:46] <JRe> uniq: if segfault can u send a backtrace to: http://bugs.kde.org/ ?
[04:47] <amu> elmo: could you please install dpkg-scanpackages on novo 
[04:47] <elmo> amu: use apt-ftparchive?
[04:47] <elmo> btw, i need to upgrade novo to hoary
[04:48] <KaiL_> JRe: now you have a problem with your version naming :)
[04:48] <elmo> you guys going to be around for the next 10-20 mins, while I do that?
[04:48] <JRe> KaiL_: why ?
[04:48] <elmo> can't imagine  it'll break anything important, but..
[04:48] <KaiL_> from svn to final:
[04:48] <Riddell> elmo: sure
[04:48] <KaiL_> Warning: downgrading kftpgrabber :)
[04:49] <JRe> KaiL_: oh yeah i remember but i had corrected this error the last one was 0.5.99+svn .....
[04:49] <KaiL_> ah, ok :)
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[04:49] <JRe> KaiL_: it was a terrible mistake ;)
[04:49] <elmo> amu: apt-ftparchive can function as a drop in replacement
[04:52] <KaiL_> Riddell: didn't  you say, there's another security update for kdelibs around the corner, so that you can silently fix the kdelibs4 deletion bug then?
[04:53] <Riddell> KaiL_: ssh, security updates are top secret until released
[04:54] <elmo> ok, upgraded
[04:54] <elmo> website still works
[04:54] <KaiL_> I only want to see the day happen, when I can finally say "yes, you can use the integrated update function, there's no known breaking"......
[04:59] <Riddell> elmo: novo still works for me, no sign of /etc/lsb-release to check that it's upgraded but I assume it has been
[05:01] <elmo> riddell: /etc/apt/sources.list is useful for that
[05:01] <KaiL_> gcc4 based pinentry-qt  - are we on the way to get a gcc4 kdepim?
[05:18] <elmo> I created a breezy chroot on novo too, FWIW
[05:18] <Riddell> elmo: thanks
[05:46] <Riddell> hmm, I'm minded to make a kdelibs using the 3.4.1 tag to save a million compile issues
[05:47] <uniq> new kde packages coming up? 
[05:47] <KaiL_> when will 3.4.1 be released?
[05:51] <Riddell> KaiL_: the release dudes need to test it all compiles, then they give tars to us (had hoped for today but I suspect not), then there's a week or so of frantic package making then release
[08:54] <doko> amu, Riddell: do you know, why kdelibs4c2 needs to depend on xbase-clients?
[09:01] <amu> cause of "Iceauth" 
[10:26] <Riddell> amu, doko: I have kdelibs 3.4.1 packaged can I upload?
[10:27] <doko> Riddell, didn't you want to package qt 3.3.4 first?
[10:27] <doko> or upload first?
[10:29] <Riddell> not sure, if amu has 3.4.1 packages we may as well
[10:29] <Riddell> 3.3.4 packages rather
[10:29] <Riddell> amu: do you have qt 3.4.1 ready to go?
[10:32] <amu> yep, it needs some love but everything builds
[10:32] <Riddell> strange, kdebindings has failed on powerpc again with a compile error, wonder why powerpc failed where the others succeeded
[10:32] <Riddell> however the 3.4.1 package will fix the kdebindings comile error
[10:33] <Riddell> amu: are you able to upload qt 3.3.4 this evening?
[10:33] <amu> Riddell: as a info, i'm building 3.4.1 with qt3.3.4 
[10:34] <amu> Riddell: need 5mins. 
[10:34] <Riddell> I think I can wait 5 minutes :)
[10:35] <amu> ok ;) 
[10:36] <Riddell> well 5 minutes plus the time for qt to compile, I'll go for a cycle to my brother's and finish the kubuntu CD cover
[11:10] <amu> have fun 
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[11:13] <Riddell> anyone got gimp?
[11:20] <amu> jo
[11:20] <Riddell> don't worry, found someone to do it