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kisainhey D3 yu there yes man?12:05
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transgresskisain: did you write up that wiki?12:08
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kisainnaw it diden't work just yet12:13
kisainalthough raid one is functioning there are still some problems that i can't figure out12:13
kisainand it's got me all fuddled lol12:14
kisainbut the install went easy enough once i figured it out12:14
[A] ndy80please anyone knows how can  change font for aMule? It uses wx-gtk I think.... is there any general option to modify?12:14
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_pvhI added hoary-updates to my sources, but I still don't see the updated version of Kopete.12:15
kisaintransgress you there man?12:15
_pvhDo I need to add another repo?12:15
transgresskisain: sort of12:17
transgressheh12:17
kisaindude theres a whole bunch of shit i think i still need to do lol12:17
kisainsomethings not right and i can't figure out what lol12:18
kisaintheres a bunch of hints but i don't know enough to understand them lol12:18
kisainonce i get the bugs worked out i will wright that wiki though12:19
_pvhNo Kopete repo help from anyone at all? Hasn't anyone else had this problem?12:19
kisainand hey if i post the errors to you can you help me deciper them?12:19
kisainnot post in room but pm12:19
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transgress_pvh: did you run apt-get update?  then apt-get dist-upgrade?12:20
_pvhtransgress: Yes -- that's why I'm a bit perplexed. I didn't get any errors on the update and kopete doesn't show as upgradable.12:21
kisainso transgress can i post them to you in pm?12:22
kisainmaybe you can point me in the right direction?12:22
transgress_pvh: should've been in one of the stock repos... i got it no problem... you still having the msn problem or what?12:22
transgressyou can post them to me kisain, but i can't assure you that i will be able to help12:22
_pvhtransgress: Yeah, just so. Would you mind checking what repo your version of Kopete came from?12:22
kisaini can probibly fix them if i knew what they where lol12:22
kisainthank you12:23
_pvhtransgress: If they're from a different repo, then I'll post on the forum. Otherwise, maybe I need to blow a cache somewhere.12:23
_pvhs/they're/it's/12:23
transgress_pvh: showing hoary-updates as the repo12:24
_pvhtransgress: Okay, it must be an apt-get problem. My sources must not be updating properly when I apt-get update, even though kubuntu.org is reporting a hit.12:25
PupenoHow do you enable udp ports on firestarter ?12:26
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_pvhtransgress: The Kopete update seems to be pulled from hoary-updates. Does anyone know why that might be?12:35
transgressbecause it was an update for hoary?12:35
transgressoh12:35
transgressyou mean removed from hoary-updates...12:35
_pvhtransgress: I looked into the /var/apt/lists file for hoary-updates that I just pulled down -- kaffeine is in there, but not kopete.12:36
transgress_pvh: interesting... maybe it broke shit.  i barely run it, but when i did, it didn't seem to crash anymore than usual12:38
Firetechcan somebody tell me the default desktop background color of kubuntu?12:38
transgressumm blue?  12:38
Firetechin Hex.12:38
Firetechwhat kind of blue.12:39
FiretechI know it's blue, but I accidentally changed it...12:39
_pvhtransgress: Ah, that's a possibility I hadn't considered.12:39
_pvhtransgress: I wonder who makes those decisions and where they would be logged...12:39
transgress_pvh: didn't you know?  once installing kubuntu we become part of a collective consciousness and we all make the decision.  as one.  without even knowing it.12:40
_pvhtransgress: WOW.12:41
_pvhtransgress: That is both beautiful and terrifying.12:41
Riddellgrep Color1 /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kdesktoprc12:43
RiddellColor1=0,48,13012:43
Riddellwhich is made to blend perfectly in with the background12:44
_pvhtransgress: Aha. In https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10993 there is a link to the right repo.12:44
Riddell_pvh: which hoary-updates are you looking at, there's one on archive.ubuntu.com and one on kubuntu.org12:45
_pvhRiddell: kubuntu.org12:47
Riddell_pvh: kubuntu.org hoary-updates is just for stuff that hasn't made it into archive.ubuntu.com, kopete did make it into archive.ubuntu.com12:48
_pvhRiddell: oh!12:48
_pvhRiddell: The main thread on the issue at ubuntuforums.org could use a clarifying post.12:48
transgressRiddell: what's the kubuntu.org repo?  i don't have that one and i think i might like to12:49
_pvhRiddell: I can make an attempt at one, though I can't really claim to fully understand the issues.12:49
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Riddelltransgress: see /topic12:49
Riddell_pvh: URL?12:49
transgressRiddell: you think i can read? ;)  thanks12:50
_pvhRiddell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3577612:50
transgresshey is the kubuntu repo all stable and whatnot and not prone to breaking?12:50
Riddelltransgress: it's fixes for things that are broken in hory12:52
Riddellhoary12:52
Riddellso can't make it any worse :)12:52
transgressRiddell: cool12:52
transgressRiddell: there a gpg key for it so it doesn't toss me the authentication error?12:52
Riddelltransgress: I'm afraid not, I havn't looked up how to do that12:53
_pvhRiddell: Okay, it's all sorted now I think. Thanks for the advice.12:53
transgressRiddell: oh well.12:53
Riddell_pvh: not sure what I can add to that thread, it does alreay point to the new version in hoary-updates12:54
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transgressi wish i could figure out how to install themes... i'm not even sure which themes i'm supposed to use...12:55
_pvhRiddell: It doesn't actually say where you can find hoary-updates anywhere in the thread.12:55
_pvhRiddell: I think I can handle adding that though.12:55
Riddellhmm, I have to log in12:55
Riddellthese forum things are confusing12:55
_pvhRiddell: yeah, tell me about it.12:56
_pvhRiddell: in fact, I think the advice to make sure hoary-updates "main restricted universe" is plain wrong -- it seems from here like only main actually works.12:57
Riddellmain and restriced12:58
Riddellhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/ should have the lot12:59
Riddellso they should all work12:59
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kisainanyone know how to uninstall kubuntu desktop (it's causing isshues with software raid 101:02
kisaini installed it using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:03
Riddellkisain: what are the issues?01:03
Riddellit shouldn't affect raid at all01:03
kisainwell i'm having trouble accesing drives in it for one01:03
kisaini poseted a request on the forums would you like the link?01:04
Riddellcan do01:04
kisainit does i can't get into any hds 01:04
kisainit says there not mounted01:04
kisainhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3628601:05
kisainthats my thread i started01:05
kisainit pritty much explanes everything i can think of01:05
kisaini wish i was smarter than linux at this time lol01:06
kisainit's funny becuase i can open up everything in ubuntu but nothing in kubuntu01:07
transgresskisain: gvm is handy about getting strange things to mount...01:08
kisaingvm?01:08
kisaini tell ya it's got my hair fallin out from stress lol01:09
kisainand whats gvm transgress?01:09
transgresskisain: gnome volume manager i believe... it's part of gnome 2.10 that works magic01:09
_aligoodbye everybody01:10
kisainoh 01:10
kisainthats why ubuntu works eh?01:10
_aliI don't know what time it is in your country, but it is night in mine, so good night :)01:10
kisainnight01:10
kisainany idea riddlell?01:11
kisainriddell even01:12
Riddellkisain: I'm not sure what the problem is01:12
kisainsame here01:12
kisaini know theres no swap partition though01:12
Riddellkisain: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop won't have changes fstab or any default mounts01:12
kisaini forgot to make one lol01:12
Riddellthen you'll need to format the disk to make one, unless it has spare space01:13
kisainthan why can't i access any of the drives in kubuntu?01:13
kisainwhat really 01:13
Riddellkisain: how are you trying to access them?01:13
kisaindamnit all this hard work down the tubes lol01:14
kisainin the kubuntu er i forget what it's called01:14
kisainthe icon next to k-star01:14
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kisainstart even01:14
Riddellsystem menu01:14
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kisaini think so01:15
kisainyes01:15
kisainit shoes 2 hard drives when ubuntu only showes one (the md0 )01:15
kisainshows even arggh typos01:16
kisainit has me completely stumped01:16
kisainif i take any more asprin i'm gonna bleed ta death i tell ya lol01:16
kisaini think somehow with software raid 1 i am missing a step someware01:17
kisainbut not shure where01:17
kisaini don't wanna have to reformat and all that stuff01:17
kisainthere has to be a way to put a swap partition in and fix the isshue of raid not working right01:18
transgressokay check dmesg from kubuntu... for some reason your raid device isn't moutning01:18
transgresskisain: you didn't make a swap?01:18
kisainoh ok how do i do that01:18
transgresstype dmesg01:18
kisainno i had to make a swap "file" as an after thought01:18
kisainWOAH!01:19
transgresskisain: so you do have a swap partition?01:19
kisainyou want me to past all the crap it just spit out?01:19
kisainno i don't01:19
kisaini created a file01:20
kisainnot a partition01:20
kisainriddell you want me to paste the output to you in pm?01:21
kisaintheres alot of stuff in there01:22
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kisainand oh yea thats the output from the ubuntu side01:25
kisaincause i'm in ubuntu right now lol01:25
kisainkubuntu was givin me to much trouble at this time01:26
transgresskisain: didn't you have an extra 10 gigs you aren't using due to the different drive sizes?01:27
kisainyes01:27
kisainbut with raid i was told you need partitions the same size01:27
transgresswhy don't you cut it up and make a partition for swap?01:27
transgressand you do01:27
kisainbecause the 10gb is not even partitiond01:27
PupenoIs there any of those games in which you participate in a story-line-less community, interacting with other playes, buying things, selling ,fighting, etc ?01:28
kisainthats why the raid 1 is kinda working lol01:28
transgresskisain: that's why you cut it up and make some swap space and an extra partition for whatever you want01:28
kisainoh i see01:28
transgressi'm assuming you can do that... i mean it is still free space01:28
kisainbut will it mess up my raid any more than it is now?01:28
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kisainbecause the impression i was under was that if one hd fails the other will take over01:29
kisainthats why i picked raid 101:29
kisainbut if using that other 10gb screws things up than i'd like to find a solution using the exisiting partitions01:30
kisainriddell you there?01:35
deweysay does breezy have kde 3.4 in it already?01:46
deweyor can I install it?01:46
PupenoCan anybody help me with guarddog/guidedog or firestarter?01:50
Pupenodewey: hoary has kde 3.401:51
deweyPupeno: and breezy does not?01:53
Pupenodewey: I'd infeer that breezy has 3.4 too.01:53
deweyok kewl01:53
Pupenoand possible, better.01:54
Pupenois there a program like firestart/guardog/guidedog that allows to open UDP ports and works ?01:55
transgressseeing people talk about breezy like that scares me01:59
kisain riddell you there?02:00
kisainwhy?02:01
kisaini;m still trying to find an answer to my problem lol02:01
kisaini'm still trying to uninstall kubuntu for the time being though lol02:01
kisainjust to avoid further problems02:02
Pupenokisain: uninstrall <distro-name> does not make a lot of sense.02:03
deweykisain: what problem?02:04
kisainkubuntu won't mount my software raid 1 because theres something wrong with it02:04
kisaini posted the problem here :02:05
kisainhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3628602:05
kisainand i have absolutely know idea what to do lol02:06
kisainhow to fix this problem or even what it might be02:06
kisaini just know that theres something wrong02:06
kisainexpacaly when the word error appears in a text02:07
kisainthanx dewey02:07
kisain:(02:07
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deweyok I am back so much for breezy!02:13
transgresshaha good idea02:14
deweyThe installer wants me to use  all the HD for breezy so it would wipe out my other linux installs?02:14
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KaiLdewey: yes - so use manually02:14
deweyKaiL: I was using that and the installer help said it would not see any other partitoions on the HD?02:15
deweypartitions.02:15
KaiLhuh?02:17
deweyon my ibook during install all partitions showed during the manula partitioning.02:17
deweyKaiL: during the install all it shows is the two HD's I have on this computer no partitons I have made already.02:18
KaiLhmm, strange02:18
KaiLand no idea, what's going on there02:18
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moj0risingdoes anyone here know of a good place to get exponent information?03:16
moj0risingI am stuck on a couple things and can't find what I need anywhere.03:16
transgresswow the first season of the original Dr. Who had 42 episodes... they apparently knew how to do a season back in the day03:17
Pupenomoj0rising: exponent information ? what's that ?03:25
crimsuncool, new amarok version04:14
frank_can anyone help me with artsd (kubuntu64). It crashes all the time04:28
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Ghetekmy audio isnt working again04:50
frank_Ghetek, my artsd crashes all the time. do you have the same problem?04:52
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Gheteki dunno04:53
Ghetekevery now and then i startup and get a null audio device04:53
n17r0hi anyone has a link for the KDE-libs fix ?04:53
Ghetekand i can see my card on the lspic menu04:53
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frank_Ghetek, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't?04:54
Ghetekyeah04:54
frank_i don't know what to do04:54
Ghetekdamn04:55
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kaneanyone home05:31
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Ghetekim home05:44
Ghetekim gettina a null audio device and i can see my card in the lspci printout05:46
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transgresswhat card is it?05:47
Gheteksb live05:48
Ghetek0000:02:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 7000 (rev 07)v05:48
Ghetekit was working yesterday...05:49
Ghetekwell it shows two devices05:49
Ghetek0000:02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0000 (rev 07)05:49
Ghetek0000:02:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 7000 (rev 07)05:49
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Diablo-D3heh05:50
Diablo-D3I wonder what you broke05:50
Ghetekpsh... no idea05:51
Diablo-D3do any kernel upgrading lately?05:51
Gheteknope05:51
Ghetekhttp://pastebin.com/28823105:51
Diablo-D3did you upgrade any packages?05:51
Gheteklet me check05:52
Gheteklast night i played a dvd05:52
Ghetekand it was choppy so i did this05:52
Gheteksudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd05:52
Ghetekand it worked even better05:52
Diablo-D3well that wouldnt have done it05:52
Ghetekthen i turned off my computer05:52
Ghetekand i started it this morning05:52
Ghetekand no audio05:53
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Ghetekalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory05:53
Diablo-D3it failed because theres no driver loaded.05:53
Diablo-D3try rebooting05:54
Ghetekk05:54
Ghetekbrb05:54
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mygheteknope05:57
mygheteksame error05:57
Diablo-D3well Ive ran out of ideas05:57
myghetekdamn05:57
myghetekthanks anyway man05:58
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JohninMTI have a question about adding a backport repository... I am trying to get the kipi plugins for digikam,,,  I found a post in a forum with http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary/Pkgs.php to get it ...but how do I add it to the list06:22
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Liz4rdbleh06:43
Liz4rdwtf... you all are so boring06:47
Liz4rdusually i need someone to talk to, to get the channel going06:47
crimsunlots of other channels...06:48
Liz4rdno dammit i like this one06:49
Liz4rd:P06:49
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Jeezisah yes, channel loyalty at its best06:51
Ghetekhow do i kill synaptic? the program locked up06:51
Ghetekand i just want to kill it06:51
Liz4rd*pants* :P *pants*06:51
transgressyou got off of jabber...06:53
transgress?06:53
Jeezisirc is cooler, who needs jabber? ;P06:55
transgressjabber is nice... although yes irc is cooler06:55
Ghetekim on gaim :(06:55
transgressalthough you can't not accept people on irc06:55
transgressgaim supports jabber06:56
Ghetekoooh06:56
Gheteki wish i knew what jaoober is06:56
Ghetek*jabber06:56
Ghetekso... killing synaptic?06:56
transgressjabber is an open source IM network06:58
Ghetekall my friends are windows people and on aim06:58
Ghetekbrb06:59
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Ghetekwahoo!07:01
Ghetekctrl alt bckspce07:01
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Pupenopoor friends.07:30
PupenoReal friends don't let friends run windows.07:30
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steffenstrobelhi everybody, i have seen there are now a lot of kde updates, is it now safe to update (kdelibs!)?07:33
transgressumm it's been safe to update kdelibs as far as i know07:33
transgressi've updated it twice since i installed kubuntu i believe07:33
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NothingButYoudo not do that now07:33
NothingButYouyesterday I've messed up my kubuntu when dist-upgrading07:34
transgresseh?07:34
NothingButYouthere's a problem with the dependencies so far as I've seen07:34
transgresshow did you mess it up with dist-upgrade?  i dist-upgrade every few days07:34
transgressyou've seen wrong07:34
transgressunless you're running breezy07:34
NothingButYouwell.. I was with a hoary 07:34
NothingButYoua clean installation07:34
transgressthere is a bug that is easily fixed with conflicts between kdelibs and knetwork07:35
NothingButYouand dist-upgraded to breezy07:35
transgress./topic07:35
transgresswell no shit that'll break your system07:35
NothingButYouand ended up with no konqueror and kdebase07:35
transgresskubuntu breezy is about as stable as charles manson on crack07:35
steffenstrobelyes, but now kdenetwork is among the list of packages that need updating!07:35
transgress./topic07:36
NothingButYoudo you mean: the deb source or "breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun"07:37
NothingButYou:)07:37
steffenstrobeland the kdelibs depency problems where about kdenetwork and now it seems that there is a new version of kdenetwork07:37
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steffenstrobeland the srcipt to repair the damage caused by kdelibs is also not anymore in the topic of this channel :)07:39
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steffenstrobelso is it now fixed or not?07:41
NothingButYouI'll check it out now :P 07:42
NothingButYoudamn 15 kb/s...07:42
steffenstrobel:)07:43
NothingButYouI want a bulgarian mirrorrrrrrrrrrrrr...07:44
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da_bon_bonhow do i set the default suspend-to partition (/dev/hda3 - my swap) in swsusp thats in kernel ? NOT swsusp2...07:45
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billytwowillyHow big is the ubuntu repository?07:45
NothingButYouhey I've got a question! :) Is any of the ubuntu repositories taken from the debian repositories so I can use a debian repository instead (contrib non-free?)07:45
billytwowillyNothingButYou: it is, but you can't use a debian repository. The packages aren't the same07:46
NothingButYoubad.. :) I thought that the universe is the same as the contrib :\07:47
NothingButYouthanks billytwowilly 07:47
billytwowillyNothingButYou: no prob.07:48
NothingButYousteffenstrobel: my Kubuntu is Hoary at the moment and the only updates shown are kdenetwork, no kdelibs ... :\07:48
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: i updatet every other packages but not the 3 kdelibs packages. and today when i did my apt-get update i noticed that there are now 15 new updates avaible07:49
steffenstrobelamong them are 3 kdenetwork packages07:50
NothingButYouyes07:50
steffenstrobeland these packages had a conflict with kdelibs07:50
billytwowillysteffenstrobel: uninstall kdenetwork. Then install the kdelibs07:51
billytwowillysteffenstrobel: then reinstall kdenetwork. it's  a PITA, but it works.07:51
steffenstrobelyes, but now kdenetwork is among the list of packages that need updating07:52
steffenstrobeland before it wasn't there07:52
NothingButYouwell now it is there :)07:52
NothingButYouremove it :)07:52
steffenstrobelyes, but the question is: are the problems still there!?07:52
billytwowillysteffenstrobel: that could be normal. Maybe there was a security update?07:52
billytwowillysteffenstrobel: what problems?07:53
steffenstrobeli think (or i hope) they updatet it in order to solve the depency problems07:53
NothingButYouno, just the old kdenetwork will not work with the new kdelibs maybe :)07:53
NothingButYouand the new will :) I hope07:53
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: you got it :)07:53
billytwowillysteffenstrobel: it's semi fixed. If you do what I mentioned above that will get you past the rough patch and into fixed territory;)07:53
billytwowilly<billytwowilly> steffenstrobel: uninstall kdenetwork. Then install the kdelibs07:54
billytwowilly<billytwowilly> steffenstrobel: then reinstall kdenetwork. it's a PITA, but it works.07:54
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: you are simply updating, or not?07:54
steffenstrobelbillytwowilly: but wasn't that the way to solve these problems BEFORE the new kdenetwork update?07:55
NothingButYouwell I've just added the kubuntu.org repository and the update process works fine with the simple update07:55
billytwowillysteffenstrobel: I did that and it fixed it. The old way is to delete one file whose name escapes  me..07:55
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: how many packages did you update now?07:56
transgresshey does anyone know why digikam has a problem hotplugging after about 30 times of unplugging and plugging back in?  it takes a reboot to fix it pretty much...07:57
NothingButYouright now I'm downloading about 10-1507:57
NothingButYouamong them kdenet and kdelibs07:57
transgressand i figure... i fucking hate to reboot... and this is linux... so there must be a better way07:57
NothingButYouthere is a way to stop the hotplug system ? :)07:58
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: did you do are reboot? when i updatet (a few weeks before) the kdelibs package i need to reboot in order to see that it's now broken :)07:58
NothingButYouI mean restart it maybe :)07:58
billytwowillyNothingButYou: /etc/init.d/hotplug stop07:59
billytwowillyor restart instead of stop07:59
NothingButYouisn't that the solution of transgress 's problem ? :)07:59
NothingButYouyes :)07:59
NothingButYousteffenstrobel: I'll tell you in ... mmm07:59
billytwowillyI don't know. I haven't been following.. I told him how to fix it already;)07:59
NothingButYou72 percent :)))08:00
billytwowillyI have other things requiring my attention;)08:00
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: :)08:00
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NothingButYousteffenstrobel: I told you - 20 kb/s :PPP08:00
transgresshmm damn thing still doesn't wanna connect08:01
transgresswonder what it is08:01
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: oh well i always have 120kb/s but i'm using a german mirror and i live in germany :)08:01
NothingButYoueh.....08:02
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steffenstrobelNothingButYou: and 120 is the maximum of Connection :)08:03
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steffenstrobelNothingButYou: do you want that mirror?08:03
NothingButYouwell .. in Bulgaria the Debian , Fedora , Suse, Mandrake and Slackware Mirrors do 450 k :)08:04
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NothingButYouwith my connection.. but :\ no ubuntu.. just a CD Image mirror exists08:04
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: i think the german mirror is also faster but my DSL isn't faster08:04
NothingButYouIt's all about the money :) damn them! :)08:05
NothingButYou50 %..08:05
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: a few minutes before it was 72%?08:06
NothingButYouno .. it was 28 :)))))))))08:06
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: ah ok :)08:06
NothingButYouin the meantime why don't you remove the kdenetwork packages ? :)08:07
NothingButYouor you are waiting for my machine to blow :))08:07
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steffenstrobelNothingButYou: well i think if it's fixed, i don't need to remove that package! and concerning our second question: if you don't reappear in this channel after you told me that you now reboot i will NOT update... :)08:08
NothingButYou:))08:09
NothingButYouhm.. I suppose that a Ctl Alt + Backspace will do the same :)08:10
NothingButYouno need of reboot :} (right?:)08:10
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: i think this should also work08:11
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: kde eeds to be restarted08:11
steffenstrobelneeds08:11
NothingButYouyepp08:11
NothingButYoubrb for 21 %...08:12
steffenstrobel?08:12
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NothingButYoube right back :) I'm back... 08:18
NothingButYouand Kynaptic is frozen as usual..08:18
NothingButYouah ti ended..now lets logout...08:18
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NothingButYouup and workin..08:19
steffenstrobelthere you are08:19
steffenstrobelwhat did you mean by kynaptic is frozen?08:20
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NothingButYoua .. :) the time it takes to apply the changes :)08:20
steffenstrobelok08:20
NothingButYouit went fine :)08:20
steffenstrobeli see08:20
NothingButYoukopete works... :)08:20
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NothingButYougood luck08:21
steffenstrobeli think i will do it on the commandline to see what sgoing on08:21
NothingButYoujust the upgrade :) not dist-upgrade08:21
NothingButYouI don't think it's necessary08:21
steffenstrobeli thought of doing update and that dist-upgrade08:22
NothingButYouwell update and upgrade will be fine08:22
NothingButYoufor me at least :}08:22
steffenstrobeli always did that. i like "intelligent" things...08:22
NothingButYoulet's see if kdenetworkconf works already..08:23
Pupenodamn, this is frustrating.08:25
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NothingButYouas usual it is now working right...08:26
steffenstrobeli will now close all programs, open a terminal do update then dist-upgrade and then reboot, i will not delete kdenetwork before! i hope i will be back here soon!08:26
kaneanyone know the trick to kppp , keeps droping connection08:26
steffenstrobel:)08:26
NothingButYouhm.. 08:26
NothingButYoukane are you sure the problem is in kppp or in the Phone line ? :)08:27
PupenoDoes anybody has a good explanation why a firewall/masquerader work perfectly well with firestarter while with guarddog/guidedog works well as long as I access the services thru telnet (telnet somewhere 25, telnet somewhere 110, etc) or dig, but all KDE applications fail to access internet (Konqueror, Kontact) ?08:27
kaneNothingButYou:  i have pppconfig working atm08:27
kanekppp just drops it as it connects08:28
NothingButYoumm.. I'm not a specialist.. scuze me :) What's ATM ? :)08:28
kaneat the momet08:29
NothingButYouaaa right :)08:30
kanei'm using pppd right now08:30
kaneppp0 i mean08:30
Pupenono one has a clue about it ?08:30
NothingButYouPupeno I've got no clue08:30
NothingButYoukane.. Tone dialing through a normal telephone?08:31
kanei did something before to get it to work but my memory is bad so i cant remember08:31
kanea modem actiontec08:32
kaneserial modem08:33
NothingButYouis it dialing at all ?08:33
kaneit dials shakes hands and then drops the connection08:33
kaneyes08:34
NothingButYouhm.. strange.. the only problems of this type were because of the telephone company...08:34
kanena it works in all my distros but this one but i had it working before in this08:36
NothingButYouno idea.. Sorry :)08:36
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NothingButYouhave a nice day, the studying's waiting..08:39
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PupenoDoes anybody know a firewall configurator that works (including UDP port opening), with a GUI (like guarddog/guidedog) ?08:42
kanefirestarter08:45
Pupenokane: how do you open an UDP port with firestarter ?08:45
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kanedunno never used it for that08:46
NothingButYoukmyfirewall, but don't ask me how to use it :)08:48
Pupenoplease, don't recomend me something if you don't know if it does what I need (re: firestarter).08:49
transgressokay as i watch the original episodes of dr who... it reminds me of Sliders... 08:49
transgressexcept it has that sweet classic tv feel08:49
kanejust google udp firewakk port forwarding08:50
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PupenoNothingButYou: it seems not to be packaged for kubuntu, right ?08:51
Pupenokane: I don't want to do port forwarding.08:51
Pupenokane: I want a fscking tool that is able to write iptable rules to enable UDP, ot let it pass.08:52
transgressPupeno: why not just write the table yourself?08:52
Pupenotransgress: I like using out-of-the-box solutions (because the rest is hard to mantain) and debian/ubuntu seems not to ship a wrapper script for iptables-save and load.08:53
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: so back again BUT after doing update i did dist-upgrade then i noticed that there is still the depency problem, so i used dpkg to force the update of the kdelibs package, then i re run dist-upgrade (it set up the settings of the otehr packages) then i manualy createt the /etc/kderc file and edited it like in the old shell script that i luckily had and then rebootet and it seems that now everything is fine, well see..08:53
kaneyeah better idea08:53
transgressPupeno: it's called linux... that tends to happen... sometimes it helps to learn a little...08:54
Pupenotransgress: what ?08:54
kaneor you could use windows and pay 50 bucks for such a proggy08:55
transgresscould cron up the table...08:56
Pupenokane: I don't use windows, I don't use propietary software, I haven't for years.08:56
Pupenotransgress: cron ? if I'm going to do this by hand I would never use cron, what would you use cron for ?08:56
kaneto start the thing at boot08:57
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: are you still there, or is your pc burned away?08:57
transgressi said could08:58
Pupenokane: do you often use cron to start things at boot ? it's not for that, it's for runing periodic tasks.08:58
transgressperhaps i'm forgetting something, but can't you set the period to be done at boot?08:58
kaneand booting is periodic here08:59
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transgressanyways... ima watch this episode of doc who08:59
transgressgonna go lay down08:59
transgressgonna try to finish up the second hitchhikers guide08:59
Pupenokane: booting periodic ? weird.08:59
transgressbye08:59
kaneofcourse you can init08:59
Pupenotransgress: an rc.d script would make much more sense.08:59
transgressi used to cron up ntpdate or whatever the command is... 09:00
transgressanyways09:00
transgressbuh bye09:00
transgressshow09:00
Pupenokane: why do you boot periodically ?09:00
kanerestore things09:01
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NothingButYousteffenstrobel: I'm sorry, i was studying.. Well.. there was no problem when I do a simple upgrade.. but mine was a clean ubuntu with no updates installed09:10
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steffenstrobelNothingButYou: i'm so happy that i did everything in the commandline, optherwise i would not have noticed that the problem still exists09:11
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: but as i know what i know have to to, i fixed everything BEFORE the reboot ;-)09:12
steffenstrobelnow09:12
NothingButYouthat's the thing with linux - in windows you can not even help yourself alone...you should wait for MS..09:14
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: oh yes, i HATE Micro$oft!09:14
NothingButYouwell I cannot say I hate them.. I just avoid using their products where possible :)))09:15
NothingButYouand when possible :)09:15
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: i think we both mean the same09:16
steffenstrobel:)09:16
NothingButYou:) I'm very proud that in the company where my dad's working, I managed to get them to use Linux... well SuSE but they need something to start with :)09:16
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: i also try to get people installing linux wherever possible :)09:17
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: whats in your /etc/kderc file?09:18
NothingButYouthe bad thing is when it comes to the question "what about AutoCAD? is it working?"09:18
NothingButYoummm... I honestly don't know :) now I'll see09:18
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: i'm asking because i had to manually create it before reboot09:18
NothingButYousteffenstrobel: does it help ? :)09:23
steffenstrobelNothingButYou: yes, thanks for your effort, i had manually created exactly the same file09:23
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steffenstrobelNothingButYou: just wanted to know if it's the kubuntu default like i recreated it after the update09:24
NothingButYouok :)09:24
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transgresswow... he got kvirc working... wouldn't even start for me09:29
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transgress__P__3: you using the kvirc in apt?09:29
__P__3no09:30
transgressi see09:30
__P__3:)09:30
transgressyou build the package?09:30
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transgresserr source09:30
_P_no 09:31
_P_i am using 09:31
_P_the one from kvirc rep snapshot09:31
transgresshmm09:31
transgressdid it cause any trouble when you installed it?09:31
_P_because i have half distro broken 09:31
transgressoh09:32
_P_from kdelib and libqt09:32
_P_no trangs why?09:32
_P_which trouble?09:32
transgresslike broken dependencies09:32
_P_uhmm09:32
_P_kve is not in ubuntu repo09:32
transgresskvirc is... it's just old09:33
_P_you have to  add debian experiemtnal repo 09:33
_P_yes it is09:33
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bobiHi 09:34
bobihave som eproblems with my live player 5.109:34
transgresslive player?09:34
NothingButYouSund Blaster Live 5.1 ? :)09:35
NothingButYou*sound09:35
bobiyes09:35
transgressokay well bed time and time for hitchhikers guide... night peoples09:36
bobiin the start it worked fine but now it only the very anoyin sound09:36
NothingButYoutransgress: sleep weell09:37
NothingButYoubobi no sound at all or distorted?09:37
bobidistorted09:37
bobibut it worked fine for 2 month09:37
NothingButYoutry playing with the volumes09:37
bobiit sais that it can not conect to sound server09:38
PupenoWas FLAC support dropped from KDE Audio CD ?09:38
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firasRHi all09:42
firasRDoes anyone here use Kbear for their ftp client ?09:42
bobiH09:43
bobiHi09:43
firasRHi bobi09:44
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rommerhow would kubuntu work on  900mhz 128mb ram?09:44
Kamping_Kaiseryes well09:46
NothingButYouit should work :)09:46
bobitry09:46
NothingButYouI've installed it on an 333 MHZ Celeron 64 mb :)09:47
bobiU can have kde and gnome on the same machine09:47
NothingButYouhave a nice day all :)09:48
firasRNothingButYou, same to u !09:48
firasRbobi: is that a question or a statement ?09:48
Kamping_Kaiserstatement09:49
rommerok09:50
rommerwould it run better than winxp pro would?09:50
NothingButYouat least for movie watching yes :))))))09:51
Kamping_Kaiserrommer. not srue09:52
Kamping_Kaiser*sure09:52
Kamping_Kaiserdepends what your doing.09:52
bobithe statement09:53
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rommerKamping_Kaiser: im asking for a friend that will just be surfing the web, reading email, im'ing, word processing and some graphic and web design09:54
bobidepends on what kid of graphic design09:55
bobikind09:55
Kamping_Kaisergraphic design? if you want photoshop through crossover, slower09:55
Kamping_Kaiserotherwise probably just as fast, btu a lot safer09:55
rommerok thanks09:59
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Tm_Thop11:49
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Tm_Thaha12:07
Tm_Tmaybe I should fix that dns problem afterall :p12:07
cattivikHey guys, if an application (say aMSN in this case) stops responding, and you 'Kill' the pid, what prevents it from closing in the gui / how do you close it?12:22
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Tm_T=)12:25
cattivik...12:26
Kamping_Kaiserit should close the gui12:27
thoreauputiccattivik: try running xkill and zap it with your mouse12:27
thoreauputiccattivik: or ctrl-alt-escape12:27
thoreauputicin KDE12:28
cattivikWhoa.. thanks thoreauputic that was effective AND very cool!12:28
cattivik:D12:28
thoreauputiccattivik: :)12:29
Riddellkwin should be able to kill it for you by clicking the X12:30
Tm_Tyup12:30
cattivikRiddell: the window wasnt responding at all. xkill murdered it though. system glitch maybe?12:31
Tm_TKILLKILLDIEDIE!12:32
Tm_Tuhm, sorry?12:32
Riddellcattivik: kwin should still work though, the window decorations12:32
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Tm_Thi riddell12:35
Tm_Tanything news about pykde?12:35
Tm_T-s12:35
RiddellTm_T: getting closer12:36
Tm_TRiddell: lovely :)12:37
shogoukigreat12:38
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Tm_Tsmouche o/ o701:03
sirukinDEATH TO SMOUCHE!01:04
Tm_T...01:04
smouchehey Tm_T, how's it hangin'?01:04
Tm_Tsirukin: that wasn't nice, shame on you01:04
sirukinhehe01:04
Tm_Tsmouche: oh, fine, you?01:04
sirukinsorry01:04
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smoucheouch01:05
smouchewasn't that a movie?01:05
Tm_T?01:05
smoucheoh yeah, "Death to Smoochy" or something...01:05
Tm_Thaha01:05
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sirukin;)01:10
cattivikHey guys, how do I install uudecode? I've googled to no avail =/01:19
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thoreauputiccattivik: $ apt-cache search uudecode01:29
thoreauputicsharutils - shar, unshar, uuencode, uudecode01:30
thoreauputicso install sharutils01:30
Riddellcattivik: apt-cache or packages.ubuntu.com are your friends01:30
sirukinhttp://www.bash.org/?50950401:31
thoreauputictwo seconds as opposed to hours on google ;-)01:31
Tm_Thaha01:32
cattivikthanks thoreauputic , Riddell 01:32
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Tm_Thmm, maybe I install gentoo01:32
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HavoKhi there01:40
Tm_Thullo01:40
HavoKbreezy is getting funnier and funnier these days01:40
Tm_Tno shit =)01:41
HavoK..so I stopped to "apt-get dist-upgrade" it01:41
HavoK=)01:41
Tm_Thmm01:45
sirukinhttp://www.qdb.us/4454901:46
sirukinrofl01:46
sirukin:S01:46
Tm_Tinteresting topic, "deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main" ?01:47
Tm_Tah, new updates01:48
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Some fixes: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun | http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php
Tm_TRiddell: thank you <301:49
thoreauputiccattivik: are you using hoary or breezy?01:49
cattivikhoary01:50
sirukin:p01:50
sirukincan I close off my internal lan and only use tor for everything?01:50
thoreauputiccattivik: have you run apt-get -f install the way it said to?01:51
sirukins/can/may01:51
cattivikthoreauputic: indeed, same result01:51
thoreauputiccattivik: well, it's odd: i don't know what the problem is01:52
cattivikthoreauputic: thanks anyway01:52
thoreauputiccattivik: unless you have installed third party apps and confused the system01:52
cattivikthoreauputic: any way to clean the system or shall i reformat and load the os again?01:52
thoreauputiccattivik: btw I rejected your dcc send because I'm on dialup and downloading a new kernel01:53
Tm_Tehm01:53
cattivikthoreauputic: fair enough01:54
cattiviklol01:54
thoreauputiccattivik: paste the output on pastebin.com and tell us the URL01:56
thoreauputiccattivik: it's fixable, I'm sure01:56
shogoukikudos seems interesting :)01:56
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cattivikthoreauputic: http://pastebin.com/28833501:58
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thoreauputiccattivik: OK looking - might take a while as my banwidth is all used and I'm lagging about 25 seconds :)01:59
thoreauputiccattivik: wow, what a mess02:01
cattivikthoreauputic: can you advise as to what may have caused it? :(02:01
thoreauputiccattivik: did you try to compile something esoteric/02:01
cattivikincompetence goes without saying02:01
thoreauputiccattivik: what's with all the dev libraries?02:01
cattivikthoreauputic: i've tried to install a few apps, downloading libraries as i went because it kept saying i was missing them :/02:01
thoreauputiccattivik: that's what's caused this02:02
thoreauputiccattivik: use the system ans use apt-get build-dep if you compile02:03
thoreauputiccattivik: read the apt howto at debian.org02:03
thoreauputiccattivik: in general, compiling is a last resort in debian based distros like Ubuntu02:03
thoreauputiccattivik: you have now got a whole bunch of libraries thet are incompatible with your installation02:04
cattivikgutted02:05
thoreauputiccattivik: most sources are available using apt02:05
pd_Best player to view video and other files vlc02:39
thoreauputicpd_: I prefer xine, YMMV02:40
pd_xines not bad, but on my system after so many trials and situation I found vlc to be the best02:41
thoreauputicvlc is nice, agreed - it probably depends on your setup and needs02:41
thoreauputicmplayer sucks on my system02:41
pd_all other players crashed at one instance or the other02:42
thoreauputicpd_: yeah, whatever works for you02:42
thoreauputicnice to have the choice, though02:42
pd_mplayer is best when compiled from source02:42
pd_thoreauputic, i agree totally on the choice part02:42
thoreauputicpd_: no doubt that's true, re mplayer, but I'm unimpressed with the way the mplayer devs present information02:43
thoreauputictheir site is a nightmare IMO02:44
pd_thoreauputic, i did not go that deep in judging the player, just user level controls02:44
pd_Thier site is nightmare alright02:44
pd_:)02:44
oelewappehow do I set the display resolution in kubuntu ?02:45
pd_oelewappe, control center -> Peripherals -> Display02:46
oelewappeI can only lower the resolution there02:48
oelewappeit's on 1024x768 and I want to move it up to 1400x105002:49
oelewappe(and yes the hardware supports that)02:49
pd_oelewappe, from what i know you will have to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to do that02:51
pd_but there might be some tools to do that too02:51
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pd_hi da_bon_bon 02:56
oelewappeah a lot better02:57
oelewappeneeded to change horizsync and vertsync too though02:57
pd_oelewappe, its working right 02:58
da_bon_bonhi pd_ 03:00
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bobitrobiHi03:46
theD3viLhi03:48
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theD3viLyo KaiL :)03:48
theD3viLKaiL_  =)03:49
Tm_Thi kids03:49
bobitrobi:D03:49
bobitrobikids?03:49
theD3viLof course.03:49
bobitrobi:D03:49
Tm_Thmm, it can't be joke?03:50
Tm_Tno way ;P03:50
bobitrobi:d03:50
bobitrobi:d03:50
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bobitrobiok I need some help03:51
uniqone of the problem with IRC.. it's hard to understand sarcasm and irony. :] 03:51
theD3viLwhat ?03:51
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bobitrobiI have now kbuntu instaled on primary master disc so I would like to ad one more disc for windows03:52
bobitrobifor CS03:52
bobitrobi:d03:52
bobitrobisteam and so03:52
da_bon_bonshudnt parttion of type "extened" always be /dev/hdX4 ??03:52
bobitrobi?03:52
bobitrobisoory don't understand03:53
bobitrobiI'm a noob so ...03:53
bobitrobican I put a ubuntu disk to secundary master and boot with Hoary CD03:54
da_bon_bonbobitrobi: cant u use cedega ?03:54
bobitrobiI'm don't know how god does it work03:55
bobitrobicouse CS sometimes work bad in windows03:55
Choubakait can run CS03:56
bobitrobiyes but how03:56
bobitrobican I get 100 fps full screen with normal sound03:56
bobitrobiwhat about CSS03:56
Choubakadepends.03:56
ChoubakaCS:S works too.03:57
ChoubakaWhat kind of a system do you have?03:57
bobitrobiwhere03:57
bobitrobinow I have kubuntu03:57
ChoubakaI meant hardware specs03:57
bobitrobisoory03:57
ChoubakaAnd what's the obsession with 100fps anyway :P03:57
Choubaka60 is more than enough.03:58
bobitrobiBarton 2800+ 512 MD ddr400 Ti 420003:58
Choubakasounds good.03:58
bobitrobiMB03:58
bobitrobiaha LIVE player 03:58
bobitrobi..03:58
bobitrobiand there is a lexmark 33 problem03:59
bobitrobiso I have another 20 GB disk I can use 4 windows04:00
bobitrobiI would like to hava a dual boot04:00
Choubakaso plug in the disc and install windows on it.04:01
Choubaka:/04:01
bobitrobiI have that 204:01
bobitrobiI have 1 disk with Win Xp and 1 disk with kubuntu04:02
bobitrobiboth working well like a primary master04:02
bobitrobiI understand that windows must be a primary master if I wot It to work04:03
bobitrobiwont04:03
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bobitrobisorry want04:04
jd101hi I just did the kernel upgrade but I lost the 3d Nvidia driver, what should I do?04:05
Choubakahow did you do a kernel upgrade?04:05
bobitrobiU can reinstall it04:05
ChoubakaAnd why? 04:05
bobitrobitry to install headers of the new kernel04:05
jd101I found a kernel update on synaptic04:06
Choubakaahh.04:06
Choubakaupgrade linux-restricted-modules as well04:06
jd101there is not linux-restricted-modules update.04:07
Choubakawird.04:07
Choubakaweird*04:07
Choubakait ought to work though.04:07
jd101the kernel was updated from 2.6.10-5 build 2.6.10-34 to 2.6.10-34.104:09
Choubaka:/04:09
Choubakain that case the old module should be compatible04:10
Choubakatry modprobe nvidia04:10
Choubaka/:04:10
jd101is there anyway I can install driver from installer from nvidia.com?04:13
KaiL_jd101: which message gives 'modprobe nvidia'?04:14
jd101nothing04:14
KaiL_then it should be loaded....04:14
theD3viLjd101, yes... sh NVIDIA-7176blabla.run04:14
jd101theD3viL: do I need just headers or complete source?04:15
bobitrobijust headers04:15
theD3viLjd101, linux-image and linux-headers i think (so was in debian)04:16
KaiL_the exact headers for the installed kernel04:16
KaiL_this kernel APIs REALLY suck04:16
ChoubakatheD3viL: installing from those .run files is not recommended.04:16
KaiL_jd101: but before I want to know, if the old package is REALLY not working any more04:17
jd101Choubaka: what other choice do I have?04:17
theD3viLChoubaka, i know, but jd101 want it04:17
Choubakainstall the module sources.04:17
Choubakaand do it the debian way.04:18
theD3viLhm... What dist-upgrade upgrade?04:18
theD3viLand where themes saves ?04:19
jd101KaiL_: i updated kernel, rebooted, x would not start04:19
theD3viLdefault kubuntu theme.. where is it saved?04:19
jd101KaiL_: i did nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changes "nvidia" to "nv"04:19
KaiL_ok, so somebody should die for this....04:19
KaiL_not testing hoary updates is something not funny04:20
jd101KaiL_: they probably should update the restricted modules package 04:20
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KaiL_jd101: better both files MUST get uploaded at the same second...04:20
teknoprephey all.. where would i save my xmodmap settings so when i boot up next time i don't have to redo them04:21
jd101KaiL_: my point exactly04:21
KaiL_jd101: please wait with installing other stuff...04:21
KaiL_maybe it can be fixed fast enough04:22
jd101I downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1.run04:23
jd101I'l download the linux-headers for the kernel update04:23
KaiL_jd101: please wait with installing other stuff <<<<<<04:23
jd101KaiL_: i didn't understand what you mean04:24
KaiL_do NOT install the NVIDIA-Linux04:24
jd101ok04:25
jd101KaiL_: what should I do instead?04:26
KaiL_sit with nv and wait for now04:26
jd101ok04:27
jd101can one of you guys apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and tell me if you get the same thing?04:27
bobitrobinot home sorry04:27
jd101is there anyway I can rebuild the linux restricted modules package myself?04:29
KaiL_just WAIT04:31
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KaiL_more important04:32
KaiL_can anybody reproduce the problem with any other module?!?04:33
chxhi. I have arts disabled (gave me many problems) but my microphone does not work in Skype. In KMix -- what kind of combination of green/red/unchecked shall be over/below the mic?04:33
KaiL_the green is mute/unmute, so I guess it should be enabled04:34
KaiL_red is "record", just try that :)04:34
chxSo, green no, red yes?04:34
KaiL_green yes, red try04:35
bobitrobiI would like to install grub on may win Xp disk, now I have ubuntu on primary master and I woul like to put it on primary slave. How can I do ti?04:35
bobitrobisorry have a strnage IRC client must go now04:42
bobitrobitrange04:42
bobitrobistrange04:42
bobitrobiah04:42
bobitrobibye04:42
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chxhmmmmmm 04:49
chxMy microphone does not want to work04:49
chxso i run alsamixer04:49
chxand press f4, go to Mic, press up --- oooops nothing happens04:50
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jd101KaiL_: I saved the contents of dmesg05:12
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Ken-OhKiWich soft do I use for port-forwarding in kubuntu?05:22
joelWhere are all my systems's admin tools?05:22
Ken-OhKi[joel]  ->tried Control Center?05:22
joelKen-OhKi: those are for KDE05:22
Ken-OhKiWich one you use?05:23
joelI think I found it under System05:23
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teknoprepwhats file can i put a startup script for my X session05:26
Riddellteknoprep: you need to put a file in ~/.kde/Autostart/05:26
teknoprepok05:26
Riddellteknoprep: it needs to be a .desktop file pointing to the script you want05:26
Riddelland Exec=$HOME/bin/keymapping05:27
Riddellfor example05:27
teknoprepeh05:27
teknoprepso i put .desktop in ~/.kde/Autostart05:28
teknoprepand in .desktop i put Exec=$HOME/bin/keymapping05:28
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teknoprepand in ~/bin/keymmapping i put.. whatever the fuck i want05:28
teknoprepRiddell, yes no05:30
Riddellteknoprep: yes05:30
Riddelldoesn't have to be called keymapping, that's just one I have there 05:31
N1G0Whmm still no fix for the kdelibs-data ?05:31
KaiL_N1G0W: there's a new knetworkconf, which should solve the problem05:32
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N1G0Wwell yesterday about 12 hours ago, i just install kubuntu all over again, and then installed all the updates in kynaptic, but after reboot i got errors and taskbar was gone as mentioned on the forums.05:34
KaiL_the file found it's way this morning ;)05:34
N1G0Wrofl05:34
KaiL_this really needs to be handled better for next release....05:35
N1G0Wheh now im lucky I created a image of my kubuntu partition. :P05:35
N1G0Wyeah this bug was there already for 4 weeks or so05:36
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N1G0Wit would be really bad if up comming bugs take 4 weeks to get fixed05:37
KaiL_I hope not05:37
joelIf i also would like to install GNOME in my Kubuntu installation, what files do I need to download?05:38
Tm_Tjoel: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" ;)05:38
joeltim_h: thanx05:39
Tm_Ttim?05:39
Tm_Tand h ?05:39
N1G0Wlol05:39
joelAnd everything I install is compiled for my AMD 64? (I installed via the Kubuntu amd 64)05:39
Tm_Thmm05:39
Tm_TI think they work ok05:40
KaiL_joel: yes05:40
joelTm_T opps. Thanx Tm_T :D05:40
Tm_T=)05:40
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joelI think Kynaptic crashed...05:47
joelnever mind05:48
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KaiL_no, it always sits there for hours, while installing05:48
joelKaiL_: Yea i think it was just refreashing becuase it looked as if it were downloading but nothing was downloading.05:50
KaiL_hmm05:50
joelhow do I log in (console) as root?05:54
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joeliv been a mdk user for a while now :)05:54
joelsu isn't working05:55
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shogoukisudo su05:55
joelahhhhhhh05:57
joelwhats sudo?05:57
joelTm_T: # apt-get install gnome-desktop05:58
joelTm_T: E: Couldn't find package gnome-desktop05:58
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apsuvajoel #ubuntu 05:58
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joelapsuva: k05:59
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Tm_Tjoel: ubuntu-desktop05:59
joelTm_T: thanx06:00
Tm_T=)06:00
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teknoprepRiddell, that shit isn't working06:03
teknoprepRiddell, setting up a script ing ~/.kde/Autostart to run a script in $HOME/bin/blah06:03
teknoprepthen seting up blah with whatever06:04
teknoprepdoesn't start with kde06:04
foodcomanWhy would the libxvidcore4 for mplayer 386 not update with apt-get?  I know dumb question!06:04
foodcoman=)06:04
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Riddellteknoprep: here's what I have http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/keymapping06:05
teknoprepRiddell, is that in ~/.kde/Autostart/.desktop06:06
Riddellteknoprep: ~/.kde/Autostart/whatever06:07
teknoprepok06:07
hussamRiddell: in Breezy, there are kdebase and kdelibs updates, but I can't install them because synaptic says all other kde packages including kdm, kdemultimedia and kdenetwork have to be removed in order to update kdebase and kdelibs. is this becasue the rest of the packages have not been updated yet to Breezy?06:08
NothingButYouDO NOT UPDATE TO BREEZY06:09
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hussamNothingButYou: I alreaady did06:09
Tm_Thaha06:09
NothingButYoubad bad.. too bad :)06:09
Tm_Thussam: why?06:09
Tm_TI mean, if you're not developer, _why_ ?06:09
KaiL_hussam: then life with a broken system :)06:09
KaiL_or know, how to fight around06:10
KaiL_btw. is that only me, who has no F-keys on breezy?06:10
Tm_T:p06:10
Riddellhussam: that's right, other packages will be updates soon06:10
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hussamRiddell: ok thanks06:12
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hussambrb06:20
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theD3viLhm... What dist-upgrade upgrade?06:44
Tm_Tman woman06:45
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e-guruis there anybody having problems connecting to msn network with kopete?07:02
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Riddelle-guru: you need the new kopete from hoary-updates07:03
Tm_Theh07:04
Tm_Thmm, I'm bit worried atm, my friend haven't been online whole day :o07:04
e-guruthanks07:07
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theD3viLCan i run skype with something different than OSS?!07:15
Choubakano.07:15
ChoubakaThough hmm07:16
Choubakathere might be some IMs which support skype.07:16
theD3viL:S07:16
ChoubakaAt least I read that Miranda IM can act as a frontend to skype.07:16
theD3viLwhat about TeamSpeak?07:16
Choubakadunno.07:16
NothingButYoutheD3viL: you can't07:16
theD3viLi can change to other device... but dunno what.... /dev/dsp is default07:17
NothingButYouand miranda's support for skype is very mmm.. poor07:17
ChoubakatheD3viL: you just can't.07:17
Choubakawhine to skype devs.07:17
Choubakaand tell them to start supporting alsa.07:17
Choubakabecause OSS sucks.07:17
theD3viLyeah i know, that OSS sux hard!07:18
theD3viLChoubaka, your wrong07:19
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Choubakaabout what?07:19
theD3viLi can run with artsdsp07:20
NothingButYouand esddsp too07:20
NothingButYouand pray for the Full Duplex to work fine07:20
NothingButYoufor me it didn't07:20
theD3viL:>07:20
theD3viLill try07:20
ChoubakatheD3viL: but that's still OSS07:21
Choubakaand it causes lag.07:21
Choubakaand stuttering.07:21
theD3viLi know.... but if it works its fine07:21
theD3viL:P07:21
Choubakaand, in my case, doesn't work at all.07:21
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NothingButYouright now I'm using OSS Wrapper for dmixing.. and it workd pretty fine....07:22
theD3viLbash: esddsp: command not found <- hm.. ?07:22
NothingButYouyea.. there's no esound in kubuntu :)07:22
NothingButYouI speak theoretically07:22
theD3viLoh..07:22
theD3viL:>07:22
NothingButYouand I don't know what is the problem with AOSS .. it works fine.. if set in the right way maybe.. dmix dsnoop.. 07:24
theD3viLbut dont works with another sound :S07:24
theD3viLdmix ... not resist07:25
NothingButYouerm?07:25
NothingButYouall the sound in my PC go through AOSS... 07:25
theD3viLcommand not found ;)07:25
NothingButYouwhich command :)07:25
theD3viLdmix07:26
NothingButYouam.. it's not a command :)))07:26
theD3viLwhat about? :S07:26
theD3viL=)07:26
NothingButYouhttp://amarok.kde.org/wiki/index.php/Setting_up_Dmix_for_ALSA07:26
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theD3viLtnx.07:27
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NothingButYouhttp://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php?company=Generic&card=Generic&chip=Generic&module=Generic#softmix07:27
NothingButYouthis may be of interest too07:27
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theD3viLhm07:29
theD3viLNothingButYou, ... which plugin must i paste... 1. or to?07:30
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theD3viLNothingButYou, ... which plugin must i paste... 1. or 2? ;)07:30
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NothingButYouif you talk about the amarok.kde.org link... the first variant is for faster PC's and newer cards07:31
NothingButYouI didn't get your question well :)07:32
theD3viLaha.... ;)07:32
theD3viLi didnt know .. first variant .. or second.....07:33
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NothingButYouwell.. the second differs in just one number..07:33
theD3viLand what is different?07:34
NothingButYoubuffer_size 16384        # buffer size = 4096 x 2 x 207:34
NothingButYouyou may change it to 8096 or anything x2 :)07:34
NothingButYouamm.. no..07:34
NothingButYouamm... 4096 x 2 ... :)07:35
theD3viLwhy change?07:35
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NothingButYouif you sound stutters07:35
NothingButYouwhen the pc is loaded with more apps :}07:35
theD3viLkk ;);)07:35
NothingButYoukind of buffer :}07:35
theD3viLso ...07:35
NothingButYou:)07:35
theD3viLbuffer_size 8096 x 2       # must be a multiple of period_size07:36
theD3viL?07:36
NothingButYouno ..07:36
NothingButYoutry 409607:36
theD3viLonly 4096 ?07:36
NothingButYouye07:36
NothingButYous07:36
theD3viLk07:36
theD3viL;)07:36
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theD3viLhow i restart ALSA ?07:36
theD3viL:S07:36
NothingButYoucopy this to .asoundrc in your home dir07:36
NothingButYouand set the KDE Sound System OSS07:37
theD3viLno, i copyied to /etc/asound.conf07:37
theD3viLkk07:37
NothingButYouwell.. the same :) I suppose07:37
theD3viLyes07:37
theD3viL;)07:37
NothingButYouand .. try .. amarok + kaffeine... maybe :) i don't know what apps do you have07:37
NothingButYoubut one of them to play with arts and the other with oss07:38
NothingButYou:}07:38
theD3viLhm...07:38
theD3viLwait07:38
hussamkde 3.4.1 branched today07:38
theD3viLyes arts works07:38
theD3viL..07:38
theD3viLkaffeine..just sec :D07:38
NothingButYoumake sure it's not playing through arts07:39
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theD3viLyes..07:40
theD3viL:S07:40
theD3viLhm07:40
theD3viLarts with amarok07:40
theD3viLand arts with kaffeine ?07:40
theD3viLor what ?07:40
theD3viLoss dont works07:40
NothingButYouhm.. 07:40
NothingButYouwell one of them should play through something different than arts07:41
theD3viLk07:41
theD3viLdont wokrs07:41
theD3viL:S07:41
NothingButYoukaffeine is not working for me which is strange, cause a few moments ago worked...07:41
NothingButYoudamn..07:41
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NothingButYouwell I have to investigate then :)07:42
NothingButYoubut .. that's the way  ;)07:42
NothingButYoudo you have amarok-xine?07:43
NothingButYouinstalled?07:43
theD3viLomfg07:43
theD3viL..07:43
NothingButYou:)07:43
theD3viLcrash07:43
theD3viL!!07:43
theD3viL:)07:43
theD3viL)=07:43
theD3viLmy uptime broke:(07:43
NothingButYouit happens...07:43
theD3viLeh :)07:44
theD3viL:(07:44
theD3viLbrb ;)07:44
theD3viLmust go to root07:44
theD3viL;);)07:44
theD3viLacc07:44
theD3viL;)07:44
NothingButYououch07:44
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NothingButYou:}07:44
theD3viL:>07:44
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theD3viLback :P07:50
NothingButYoumm.. I'm testing that at the moment..07:50
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NothingButYouI can't get OSS to be mixed.. Only Alsa is working..07:51
theD3viLyes... to me too07:51
NothingButYouI mean.. only ALSA is actually dmixed.. I've got Kaffeine through ALSA and amarok through mm.. xine, so ALSA too07:52
NothingButYouand the Test Sound works too...07:52
NothingButYouhm..07:52
theD3viL:;>07:53
theD3viLfor me too07:53
theD3viLeven TS and Skype dont work =/07:53
NothingButYoudevice /dev/dsp busy.. damn it..07:54
theD3viLyew07:54
theD3viLyes.....07:54
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NothingButYouand when I play womething through oss alsa stops.. hm.. strange..07:55
theD3viLyeeeees, i knwo07:56
theD3viL;)07:56
Church_of_FoamYi have a question?07:56
NothingButYouaaaa... I think I guess what's it...07:56
Church_of_FoamYis there a place to paste an output arround here?07:56
NothingButYoujust a second..07:56
Church_of_FoamY<-------used to be kisain07:56
theD3viLNothingButYou, if you figurite out PLS MSG ME ON PVT!07:56
Church_of_FoamYi have a problem with my cpu not idleing right07:57
NothingButYouok07:57
theD3viLk07:57
theD3viLcu @ 15 min07:57
NothingButYouok07:57
Church_of_FoamYand want an opinion without spamming07:57
NothingButYouI'm a spammer don't look at me :}07:57
Church_of_FoamYlol07:57
Church_of_FoamYif i spam my top though your not gonna like it07:57
Church_of_FoamYbut if it's ok i'll do it here07:58
Church_of_FoamYany problems with me doin it here?07:59
NothingButYouwell.. I'm not sure that I can help about that so.. ;)07:59
Church_of_FoamYlol07:59
Church_of_FoamYok07:59
NothingButYouI don't know :) I'm new here :}07:59
Church_of_FoamY10506 shane     16   0 15956 9184 6504 R 14.0  3.6   1:13.13 gkrellm07:59
Church_of_FoamY10590 shane     15   0 38148  14m 9084 S 11.6  5.6   0:08.58 gnome-terminal07:59
Church_of_FoamY10353 root      15   0 47472  25m 6692 S  8.3 10.4   0:55.94 Xorg07:59
Church_of_FoamY 1094 root      16   0     0    0    0 S  0.3  0.0   0:01.02 kjournald07:59
Church_of_FoamY 5934 hal       16   0  6444 4936 1592 S  0.3  1.9   0:05.32 hald07:59
Church_of_FoamY 5948 gkrellmd  15   0 10600 1268 1028 S  0.3  0.5   0:20.04 gkrellmd07:59
Church_of_FoamY10494 shane     16   0 27104  11m 8348 S  0.3  4.6   0:02.34 gnome-panel07:59
Church_of_FoamY10703 shane     16   0  2080 1044  820 R  0.3  0.4   0:01.05 top07:59
NothingButYoudon't know the rulez...07:59
Church_of_FoamY    1 root      16   0  1552  508  444 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.60 init07:59
Church_of_FoamY    2 root      34  19     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksoftirqd/007:59
Church_of_FoamY    3 root       5 -10     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.04 events/007:59
Church_of_FoamY    4 root       6 -10     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.04 khelper07:59
Church_of_FoamY   16 root      15 -10     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpid07:59
Church_of_FoamY   98 root       5 -10     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 kblockd/007:59
Church_of_FoamY  132 root      15   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 pdflush07:59
Church_of_FoamY  133 root      15   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.24 pdflush07:59
Church_of_FoamY  135 root      13 -10     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/007:59
Church_of_FoamYwhats taking up so much cpu07:59
shogoukiwww.pastebin.com !07:59
Church_of_FoamYand how can i kill it07:59
shogoukidamn flood07:59
NothingButYouhahah08:00
Church_of_FoamYthanx08:00
Church_of_FoamYi was wating for that lol08:00
Church_of_FoamYlol08:00
Church_of_FoamYsorry08:00
NothingButYouusually the process on top is taking the most :}08:00
Church_of_FoamYthats the onlyway i was able to elict a respons08:00
NothingButYoukillall processname:)08:00
NothingButYoudon't know if that'll do a job for you :)08:01
Church_of_FoamYhttp://pastebin.com/28852208:01
Church_of_FoamYcan someone look at that and tell me why ksoftirqd/0 is taking so much spu08:01
Church_of_FoamYbefore i installed software raid 1 (i don't think it's the prob) my cpu ideld between 3-4%08:02
Church_of_FoamYi really don't have a clue lol08:03
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Church_of_FoamYcan i kill this proccess with out unwanted effects "ksoftirqd/0"08:05
shogoukipaste your questions in pastebin.com and give the link, youre flooding again08:06
Church_of_FoamYoy sorry08:06
Church_of_FoamYnot tryin to be disrespectfull08:06
shogoukii was joking :)08:06
shogoukihey :/08:07
theD3viLNothingButYou, and sucsess?08:12
NothingButYoudamn OSS...08:12
NothingButYouno :\08:12
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NothingButYouAlsa's mixed.. OSS no08:12
theD3viL:S08:12
theD3viLsame ...08:12
Tm_Thaha08:12
NothingButYouthe war isn't over08:13
Tm_Tthere's not war yet08:14
Tm_Tjust you wait... ] ;=08:14
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NothingButYouended up with locked sound system.. yeah.. I'm a hacker...08:25
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Tm_T:p08:31
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NothingButYoueh...08:34
theD3viLNothingButYou, yo again :P08:35
theD3viLdid you worked out ?08:35
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NothingButYoumm.. no.. I'm blown out :)08:36
NothingButYouright now browsing the documentation...08:36
NothingButYouI'm sure I've done that before..08:36
theD3viL=)08:37
theD3viL;)))08:38
theD3viLi have a headich .. or whatever :D08:38
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Tm_Theadache?08:38
theD3viLyes yes :P08:38
theD3viLor...  dunno :)08:39
theD3viL=)08:39
theD3viLmy english bad very :P08:39
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NothingButYouhttp://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin   <- this simply does not work08:45
NothingButYouat least for me..08:46
NothingButYouI've gotta sleep. Have a nice day/night.. 08:47
NothingButYou:)08:47
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kisainarggh it's driving me crazy08:48
kisaini can't get my cpu to stop thrashing08:48
KaiL_?08:48
KaiL_thrashing?08:48
kisainnot idel08:49
kisainit used to be @ around 3-5% now it's 21-25%08:49
KaiL_some zombie?08:49
theD3viLcan somebody tell me on which page he/her downloading torrents?08:49
Tm_To/08:49
kisainwhats a zombie?08:50
Tm_Tkisain: look at me08:50
Tm_T;p08:50
kisainlol08:50
KaiL_a process, which doesn't to anything productive, only sucks cputime08:50
kisainahhh08:50
Tm_Tjust like most of the people here08:50
kisainhow can you tell which one it is?08:50
kisainlol08:50
kisainroflmao08:50
Tm_Tkisain: try "ksysguard %U"08:51
Liz4rdOMG08:52
Liz4rdTm_T: hey man08:52
Liz4rd:P 08:52
Tm_Thullo08:53
Liz4rdsup?08:53
Tm_Teh, please use whole words, and I'm just fine, you?08:54
Liz4rdi'm fine... not high up on the english?08:55
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kisainok08:55
Tm_Twell, I prefer proper english in international channels ;)08:55
Liz4rdalright, fair enough08:55
Liz4rdwhere are all the funny people?08:56
Liz4rd:P08:56
kisaini typed that in and this is what it said :(in error box)The file /tmp/kde-shane/ksysguardDVLkhc.tmp does not contain valid XML.08:56
Liz4rdlike smouche :D08:56
Tm_Thaha08:56
Tm_Tkisain: ehh, breezy?08:56
kisainno ubuntu horey08:57
Tm_Thmm08:57
Tm_Tstrange08:57
kisainthere was an update today08:57
kisainfor the kernal i think it was08:57
kisainand i downloaded it08:57
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kisainany idea?09:00
teknoprepanyone here ever get a modification for KDE that makes it look like os x09:01
kisainthats neat09:01
kisainyou can do that?09:01
Liz4rdteknoprep: www.google.com <-- use the force09:01
ChoubakaDid someone call for funny people?09:02
teknoprepi am foo09:02
Liz4rd:P simmer09:02
teknoprepLiz4rd, www.blowme.com09:02
Liz4rdteknoprep: www.teaparty.org09:02
teknoprepLiz4rd, i do love you09:02
Liz4rd:P09:02
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kisaincould that update be causing my problem?09:04
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kisainis there anyway to see the updates and remove them and revert back to the older version09:07
uniqwell.. see the update is kinda tricky, as far as i know.09:12
uniqyou can check the timestamps on the files in /var/lib/dpkg/info09:12
Tm_Tteknoprep: hmm?09:12
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uniqkisain: and you can revert to older versions of packages by using 'apt-get install package=version', if that version is available (check with apt-cache policy package) it will be installed.09:13
Tm_Tteknoprep: like http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/Krita-Kexi_01.png ?09:13
teknoprepTm_T, no thats only ok09:15
teknoprepTm_T, http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=6631&file1=6631-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=OS+X+Jaguar+look09:15
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nmorseTm_T, they fixed that Krita toolbar bug in Krita, but it means that dockers can go to the top or bottom too (which is useless, and really another bug)09:20
nmorseand I appear to have used Krita twice in that clause09:20
nmorseredundancy is not always good09:21
Tm_T=)09:23
Tm_Tteknoprep: btw why you wan't osx style ?09:23
nmorseNow toolbars can be redocked at the top after being docked at the sides which is very good09:23
Tm_T:)09:24
teknoprepTm_T, yeah09:24
teknoprepTm_T, just for looks09:24
nmorseIs there some way to, say, get the packages from the mirror in the topic to authenticate?09:24
teknoprepTm_T, becuase i am mad bored at work09:24
Tm_Tteknoprep: heh09:24
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nmorseBy the way, what were the fixes included in the topic's repo?09:38
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Tm_Tnmorse: kdelibs kdenetworkconf etc09:40
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nmorseOkay, what were the bugs that were fixed?09:43
Tm_TI really don't know09:44
Tm_Tbut maybe it fixed kopete@msn issue09:45
Riddellnmorse: knetworkconf had some overlapping files, kdelibs had a nasty habit of removing /etc/kderc09:46
nmorseThanks, Riddell09:47
Riddellkopete fix is in the ubuntu hoary-updates 09:47
nmorseYeah I got that one, but what was the kaffeine fix?09:47
uniq*hint* the .changes files :)09:47
othernoobmmh, i just burned a cd and k3b gave me a message saying that the burner or the medium doesn't support 20x, so it's switching down to 16x. but it's a 52x24x52x cdrw and a 48x cd-r ?09:47
Riddellnmorse: stop it being so horribly crashy I think09:48
nmorseThat's good, hopefully the save stream function will work now too09:48
nmorseYep, save stream seems to work09:49
Diablo-D3othernoob: sounds like its not a 48x cdr09:52
Diablo-D3othernoob: and you got jipped09:52
Diablo-D3hell, I've bought spindles of 52x... and they were really only 40x09:52
Diablo-D3k3b refuses to burn faster than what the cd says... no matter what the box they came in says.09:53
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Diablo-D3And Thats A Good Thing (tm)09:53
othernoobDiablo-D3: mmh, could it be that only a few cdr's in a spindle are not 48x? 09:53
Diablo-D3othernoob: if so, you still got screwed09:53
Diablo-D3they should _always always always always always_ be from the same batch09:53
othernoobDiablo-D3: cause i've used others and they were working with 48x and also in win with nero there was no prob and neither in fc309:54
Diablo-D3nero sucks, btw09:54
othernooband in fc3 i also used k3b..with cdr's from the same spindle :/09:54
Diablo-D3worst cd burner ever09:54
Diablo-D3and fc3 probably patched k3b and/or cdrecord to burn faster than recommended09:54
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othernoobheh, nero worked for me the few times i used it09:55
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othernoobwhy 09:55
PupenoWas FLAC support dropped from KDE Audio CD ?09:56
Diablo-D3Pupeno: kde audio cd does what?09:57
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othernoobDiablo-D3 why do you hate nero ?09:57
Diablo-D3its horrible horrible quality09:57
Diablo-D3and they love to bundle nero with cd burners, and lock the copy of nero to the cd burner09:58
PupenoDiablo-D3: provide, thru KIO a convenient way to access data in CDs as Ogg Vorbis, MP3, Wav, ISO, and... well, FLAC was available on Gentoo on KDE 3.3, but it's not on KDE 3.4 on Kubuntu.09:58
Diablo-D3Pupeno: Im not sure what provides the service BUT09:58
Diablo-D3Pupeno: if its done through gstreamer, install gstreamer0.8-flac09:58
Choubakagstreamer is gnome stuff I think09:59
Pupenonah, it doesn't have anything to do with gstreamer.09:59
othernoobDiablo-D3 heh, they also used to bundle WinOnCD with burners...and that wasn't much better than nero either09:59
Diablo-D3Choubaka: not quite09:59
Choubaka you mean like dragging the tracks from konqueror?09:59
Diablo-D3gstreamer is a freedesktop project09:59
Choubakaand ripping them as Ogg/foo in the process?09:59
ChoubakaDiablo-D3: ah.09:59
Pupenowhich is gnome stuff... ;)09:59
Diablo-D3and lots of kde stuff use gstreamer10:00
Diablo-D3and kde4 is dropping arts in favor of using eithe gstreamer, a kde gstreamer wrapper, or a gstreamer clone10:00
Choubaka!10:00
Choubaka<310:00
PupenoOk, FLAC wasn't droped I'm told, so, it's either I'm missing to install something, or what's more likely, nobody packaged it.10:01
Choubakamaybe it's in universe?10:01
Diablo-D3gstreamer0.8-flac is in universe afaik10:01
PupenoChoubaka: I don't think this piece of KDE can be packaged separately, if it's compiled in, it should be on kcontrol, if it's not, it can be added (there's no plug in mechanism there AFAIK).10:02
Choubakathat sounds stupid :/10:03
PupenoChoubaka: what sounds stupid ?10:03
Diablo-D3you do realize kde is modular, right?10:03
ChoubakaI thought so too.10:03
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Diablo-D3Pupeno: where the hell is this in kcontrol?10:04
PupenoDiablo-D3: yes ? tell me how do you package the help menu of KWord separately.10:04
PupenoDiablo-D3: use the search tab, and type audiocd10:04
Diablo-D3hmm10:04
Diablo-D3I dont have a flac tab either10:05
PupenoDiablo-D3: I'm not being an ass, I don't remember where it is, I just use the search tab, always.10:05
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Diablo-D3I found it already10:05
PupenoAccording to thiago on #kde it can be packaged separately.10:05
Diablo-D3let me look10:05
Diablo-D3I dont see any package for it10:06
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PupenoI was about to report it, is bugzilla.ubuntu.com the right place ?10:06
Diablo-D3no10:07
Diablo-D3launchpad is10:07
PupenoOk, http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php points to ubuntu's bugzilla, maybe it shouldn't ?10:07
PupenoDiablo-D3: where do I find launchpad ?10:07
Diablo-D3google for it10:08
Diablo-D3probably something like launchpad.ubuntu.org10:09
PupenoIt only says: The Warty Tracking Bugzilla has moved to https://bugzilla.no-name-yet.com/.10:10
Diablo-D3lemme go look10:10
Diablo-D3https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone10:10
Pupenoubuntu.com ? let's see. :D10:11
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_blazhello10:20
_blazcan i get someone to help me with something?10:24
uniqif you tell us what something is, maybe.10:24
_blazabout dvd shrink 3.210:24
_blazi install it successfully10:25
_blazbut whet i click on open button i can't browse10:25
uniqI don't know anything about dvd shrink.. 10:26
_blazok10:26
uniqmaybe someone else here does.10:26
nmorsecan anyone connect to a groupchat in jabber in the updated version of kopete?10:26
_blazalot of people are here, probably someone knows10:27
Tm_Tam I tired or is it just lack of caffeine10:27
nmorseDvd Shrink, like to make DVD's smaller by cutting out features so you can burn them to normal DVDs?10:27
_blazi use not the version 3.0 but it doesn't have the option to make output file as .iso10:28
_blazyes10:28
_blazit is a great app10:28
nmorseI read a review of it in PC Magazine this summer10:28
nmorseOr was that the summer before?10:28
nmorseAnyway, it looked promising10:29
_blazit is10:29
_blazand it is very simple10:29
_blazi'm quite a new user to linux and i'm not familliar with some things10:30
nmorseWhere did you get DVD Shrink?10:30
_blazwell, alot of things10:30
_blazyou can download it from official page10:30
_blazit is free10:30
_blazbut you can only download the 3.2 version10:31
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nmorseSo no one here can connect to a Jabber chat using Kopete?10:32
Pupenonmorse: I can.10:32
oshAnyone running java on their machine. Is there a kubuntu-controlled java in some repo somewhere?10:32
_blaznot me10:34
nmorseI found out what my problem was, kopete sets priority while gaim doesn't10:34
nmorseCouldn't connect to chat rooms with kopete while gaim was running10:34
nmorseFor once, Kopete has a feature gaim doesn't10:34
Riddellnmorse: goes gaim have emticon themes with KHotNewStuff?10:35
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Tm_Tthis is not funny, my kaffeine is still crashy10:37
nmorseKHotNewStuff?10:37
nmorseI'd settle for Kopete figuring out that a groupchat should show the $nick only, not the jabber@conference.jabber.org/$nick10:38
Riddellnmorse: downloadable10:40
nmorseHmm, I must learn more of this KHotNewStuff10:41
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[ADULT_SWIM] anyone know if the coppermine cpu uses scaling?10:42
nmorseDoubtful10:42
nmorseThat's a PII, right?10:42
nmorseor was that the P3?10:42
[ADULT_SWIM] celeron10:42
[ADULT_SWIM] 1.0ghz10:42
[ADULT_SWIM] i'm trying to figure out why my cpu usage values seem higher than normal10:43
[ADULT_SWIM] my cpu used to idel @ between 3-5%10:43
[ADULT_SWIM] now it's 19-29% :(10:43
[ADULT_SWIM] and it's bugging me out10:44
nmorseIs a cron job running?10:44
[ADULT_SWIM] i'm worried about excessive strain when running programs10:44
[ADULT_SWIM] whats that?10:44
[ADULT_SWIM] and how to tell?10:44
nmorseOpen Konsole, then type 'ps -e | grep cron'10:44
nmorseOr use a system monitor and check what process takes that much10:45
[ADULT_SWIM] 6339 ?        00:00:00 cron10:45
nmorseHow are you checking your idle percentage?10:45
[ADULT_SWIM] top10:45
[ADULT_SWIM] and gkrellm10:45
[ADULT_SWIM] but i can't use kubuntu because it won't mount my software raid 110:46
[ADULT_SWIM] i have it though ^_^10:46
nmorseRight, so you're using top and gkrellm to check it?10:46
[ADULT_SWIM] yea10:46
nmorseWe need to get a real system monitor running here10:46
[ADULT_SWIM] ooook??10:47
[ADULT_SWIM] thought gkrellm was10:47
[ADULT_SWIM] and top was10:47
nmorseK Menu -> System -> System Monitor10:47
nmorseIf you have the GNOME one, that's where it is10:47
[ADULT_SWIM] what am i looking for?10:47
nmorseWe need something that lists processes by cpu use10:47
[ADULT_SWIM] ok have it10:48
nmorseRiddell: how do you get the themes through KNewHotStuff? It seems to be pointless little games and stuff10:48
[ADULT_SWIM] i'm in ubuntu right now but the problem happens in kubuntu too10:48
[ADULT_SWIM] only reason i'm not using kubuntu is cause it can't access my md010:48
Riddellnmorse: I think it's just in subversion, they will take the feed from kde-look.org10:49
[ADULT_SWIM] i'm looking through the processes and can't find anything thats (don't know for shure) supposed to be there10:49
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nmorseOkay, there should be a menu labeled My Processes10:49
nmorseChange that to active Processes10:50
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[ADULT_SWIM] ok done10:50
nmorseWhat's there besides gnome-system-monitor?10:50
gdhHm, when I start KMail and it connects to my self-signed SSL IMAP server, I'm always asked to remember the setting Session only or Forever... but I am always asked next reboot even if I press Forever...10:50
[ADULT_SWIM] it varys10:51
nmorseYeah, but what usually comes up?10:51
nmorseJust artsd and konversation, etc.?10:51
nmorseand kicker10:51
tuneout_alright, im trying to install Kubuntu, and it boots up till the part where it says "checking if image is initramfs..." and it's hanging there, and last time it ended up with a kernel panic10:51
[ADULT_SWIM] something called x10:51
tuneout_any idea what's up?10:51
nmorseYeah, don't worry about that10:52
[ADULT_SWIM] and jkrellm sucked 100% just a few secs ago10:52
[ADULT_SWIM] and then it did again10:52
nmorseAlright, go back to All Processes10:52
[ADULT_SWIM] wonder why?10:52
nmorsethen check cron and hit More Info10:52
[ADULT_SWIM] ok done10:53
nmorseDoes it say sleeping?10:53
[ADULT_SWIM] yes10:53
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nmorseOkay, it's not cron10:53
nmorseHas this only been happening since you installed gkrellm (or updated it?)10:54
[Piratez] can someone tell me what the equivalent of 'arial' on windows is for linux besides 'any' sans-serif font; the cloest matching one10:54
[ADULT_SWIM] no10:54
nmorseWhen did it start?10:54
[ADULT_SWIM] it happend after i changed my name and or updated the kernal10:54
[ADULT_SWIM] it used to be shane@ubuntu10:54
[Piratez] http://piratez.ath.cx/temp/SmartFTP_Konqueror.png10:54
[ADULT_SWIM] now it's shane@foamy10:54
nmorseOkay, so you updated the kernel and then this happened?10:55
[ADULT_SWIM] yes10:55
[ADULT_SWIM] thats what i'm thinking10:55
othernoobwhy does it want to install libsensors3 if i want to remove ksensors, lm-sensors, sensord?10:55
nmorseWhat kernel did you update it to?10:55
nmorseAnd for what reason?10:55
[ADULT_SWIM] um because ubuntu said to update it10:56
nmorseOkay10:56
[ADULT_SWIM] there was an icon in the systray10:56
nmorseI couldn't even get that one to install, gave module errors10:56
[ADULT_SWIM]              >linux-image-2.6.10-5-386  10:56
nmorseIn the systray?10:56
[ADULT_SWIM] well it was by the clock10:57
nmorseWhat program does that to tell you about updates?10:57
[ADULT_SWIM] something with ubuntu looks like a red round dot10:57
nmorseAnd why don't we have one for KDE on Kubuntu?10:57
[ADULT_SWIM] you know i wonderd the same thing10:57
[ADULT_SWIM] i thought it was a nifty feature10:57
[ADULT_SWIM] i like kubuntu but it won't work right10:58
[ADULT_SWIM] sence i put software raid 1 on it10:58
othernoobnmorse: isn't that a gnome feature ?10:58
[ADULT_SWIM] i like the features and functionality10:58
[ADULT_SWIM] seems more powerfull than kubuntu-desktop10:58
[ADULT_SWIM] ubuntu-desktop even10:59
nmorseothernoob: hence why I asked why we don't have one for kubuntu10:59
nmorseGNOME simply can't touch KDE, if you ask me10:59
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[ADULT_SWIM] beats me wish we did10:59
nmorseIt may just be that KDE was on 2.0 when GNOME was in Alpha10:59
kayEvening10:59
[ADULT_SWIM] i like KDE but it won't touch raid 110:59
[ADULT_SWIM] can't access any harddrives11:00
nmorseKDE doesn't care about raid11:00
[ADULT_SWIM] in kubuntu11:00
Tm_Targh, my eyes!11:00
[ADULT_SWIM] well it seems to11:00
nmorseIf Kubuntu won't do it, I don't know why Ubuntu does11:00
othernoobnmorse: i must say, im impressed by kde, i had gnome before on fc3 and it was uh..well it's gone ;)11:00
[ADULT_SWIM] good question lol11:00
[ADULT_SWIM] but any idea why it would screw with my cpu?11:00
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nmorseNo, but kernel updates can do that I guess11:01
nmorseI've had kernels screw up X, etc.11:01
[ADULT_SWIM] wow11:01
[ADULT_SWIM] <-----is now afraid to update11:01
nmorseYeah, it happens sometimes, mostly when you compile your own and don't listen to the HOWTOs11:01
[ADULT_SWIM] scary11:02
nmorseDon't be afraid to update ever11:02
[ADULT_SWIM] why if it's gonna mess up my box 11:02
othernoobnmorse: why does it want to install libsensors3 if i want to remove ksensors, lm-sensors, sensord? 11:02
[ADULT_SWIM] i worked hard to make it the way i wanted and to learn the little i know of linux i don't want to lose it all because of a stupid update that messes with my hardware11:03
nmorsewell, did you compile your own kernel for the raid support?11:03
[ADULT_SWIM] i diden't11:03
[ADULT_SWIM] ubuntu has raid suppoert11:03
nmorseYou may need to file a bug report, I'd check in #ubuntu11:03
[ADULT_SWIM] software raid anyway11:03
[ADULT_SWIM] i did11:03
[ADULT_SWIM] just wondering if anyone knew if that was the problem the update11:04
foodcomanDouble check in ubuntu forum also. There is additional eyes over there.11:04
[ADULT_SWIM] ok will do thank you for your help11:05
[ADULT_SWIM] i do have a question though for the kubuntu side of things11:05
[ADULT_SWIM] when i go into(in win would be called my computer) and click on the hard drive11:06
[ADULT_SWIM] it tells me that the drive is not mounted11:06
[ADULT_SWIM] any ideas11:06
[ADULT_SWIM] something about fstab11:06
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Tm_Tyup11:07
[ADULT_SWIM] any idea how to fix it?11:07
Tm_Tyour drive is not mounted, so mount it ;p11:07
nmorseothernoob: I have no idea why, might be a packaging problem11:07
[ADULT_SWIM] i try to but it still gives error11:08
Tm_T[ADULT_SWIM] : give me presice error11:08
othernoobnmorse: do you think it's safe to do it anyway ?11:08
[ADULT_SWIM] let me switch i'll show you error11:08
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nmorseoh probably11:08
Tm_Thmm11:08
nmorseThen just do an apt-get remove libsensors3 afterwards11:09
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Church_of_FoamYok11:10
Church_of_FoamYit's me just switched11:10
Church_of_FoamYCould not mount device.11:10
Church_of_FoamYThe reported error was:11:10
Church_of_FoamYmount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab11:10
Church_of_FoamYwoops11:11
Church_of_FoamYthe way ubuntu sees the 2 drives is as one11:11
Church_of_FoamYbecause of the software raid11:11
Tm_Thmm11:11
Tm_Tso add that device to fstab11:12
Church_of_FoamYad what though11:12
Tm_Theh11:12
Church_of_FoamYit sees 2 single drives there configured as 1 software raid 1 drive11:12
Tm_Tyeah11:12
Church_of_FoamYok i know somehow i'm missing somethinglol11:13
Church_of_FoamYbut my linux for dummies book don't cover this lol11:13
Tm_Tso you wan't to mount a partition which is actually raid(ed) ?11:13
Church_of_FoamYyes11:14
Church_of_FoamYok heres something new11:14
Church_of_FoamYi just discoverd it11:14
Tm_Ttry "sudo mount /dev/foo /destination/11:14
Tm_T"11:14
Church_of_FoamYi click on the drive hit ok11:14
Tm_Tand?11:15
Church_of_FoamYit contiues into a blank screen and than i hit the up arrow 11:15
Church_of_FoamYand i can go backwards through the directorys11:15
Tm_T...11:15
Church_of_FoamYbut it dosen't show up as 1 drive11:15
Church_of_FoamYi just got into both of them by the same method11:15
othernoobi also want to remove openoffice 1.1 and when i do it, it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop 0.4 ..is that normal ?11:15
nmorseNo, no it shouldn't be at least, othernoob11:16
Tm_Thmm11:16
Church_of_FoamYthis is definatly a conindrum11:16
nmorseDo you have any other repos than the ones that Kubuntu uses by default?11:16
Church_of_FoamYwho me?11:17
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Tm_Tactually kubuntu-desktop have dependency to OO.o ?11:17
othernoobmmh, i just want to install OO 2 ..11:17
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Tm_Tothernoob: then install it11:17
othernoobbecause OO1.1 can't read my files for some reason11:17
othernoobTm_T will it simply update OO1.1 or install OO2 so that i have OO1.1+2?11:18
nmorseWhy does kubuntu-desktop depend on OO.o?11:18
nmorseothernoob: both will be installed11:18
PupenoHow do I change my default console editor (from nano) to vim ?11:18
nmorseBut OO.o 2 requires you install every program seperately11:18
othernoobnmorse: which is exactly why i want to get rid of 1.1 first11:18
Church_of_FoamYcould the problem be that kubuntu dosen't see the 2 hd's has one?11:19
nmorseShouldn't kubuntu-desktop depend on KOffice?11:19
Church_of_FoamYi'm worried that may cause the hard drives to not stay synced11:19
nmorseI really prefer KOffice anyway, as it's workspace shell is very nice11:20
nmorseand I never like MS Office anyway, which OO.o is very much like11:20
nmorses/like/liked/11:21
othernoobi'll give KOffice a try some time, but am used to OO11:22
nmorseKOffice also has a real database (not OO.o Base, which is worthless), and vector drawing, etc.11:22
nmorseand it also does flowcharts (if you're the Visio type)11:23
nmorseIt's like Sodipodi, Visio, and OO all rolled into one workspace11:24
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nmorseAnd wrapped in the lovely KDE native widgets I love so much11:25
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Church_of_FoamYany idea about my prob?11:25
othernooba friend of mine uses it on SuSE 9.1 and he had problems printing out diff fonts in the same text, which is why i haven't bothered testing it yet11:26
nmorseReally? That sounds like a PS issue.11:26
othernoobwell. he then installed OO and had no probs 11:27
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nmorseHmm. That sounds like an interesting bug.11:28
DefHandzx11drv: Can't open display:11:28
DefHandzx11drv: Can't open display: I get this error in Konsole while trying to install in Cedega. I type cedega SteamInstall.exe11:29
Church_of_FoamYjust one last question nmorse11:30
nmorsefire away11:30
Church_of_FoamYshould i be worried about the cpu idling that high11:30
nmorseYeah, I would be11:30
Church_of_FoamYok thank you11:30
nmorseNot that it'll kill your hardware11:31
nmorseBut that everything else will be slowed down tremendously11:31
Church_of_FoamYit's a programming isshue11:31
Church_of_FoamYi know i've noticed11:31
nmorseYou should try reverting to the original kernel11:31
Church_of_FoamYkill the raid?11:31
Church_of_FoamYor revert back to before the updates11:31
Church_of_FoamYto kill the raid i would have to reformat11:32
nmorseRevert to the kernel before the updates11:32
nmorseShould be easy enough to do11:32
Church_of_FoamYyou can fo that?!!!11:32
Church_of_FoamYsweet11:32
frank_has anyone tried installing kaffeine from breezy?  that package wants to remove locales and other packages that I don't think should be removed!11:32
Church_of_FoamYcan you tell me how or point me in a direction that will tell me?11:33
nmorseYeah, it's easy enough to downgrade packages, even kernels11:33
Church_of_FoamYsweet11:33
Church_of_FoamYthats the best news i herd all day11:33
nmorseWe just need the original .deb package, and a quick glance at 'man dpkg'11:33
Church_of_FoamYthank you linux god11:33
Church_of_FoamYok how to do?11:33
Church_of_FoamYcause i don't know what the original was11:34
Church_of_FoamY<----likes this ubuntu/kubuntu cause it just works.11:34
nmorseLike I said, first we need the new kernel image11:35
Church_of_FoamYok11:35
nmorseor old kernel package, really11:35
Church_of_FoamYi installed it off a cd11:35
Church_of_FoamYthe ubuntu hoary 5.04 cd11:35
Church_of_FoamYif thats where it got form11:35
nmorseOkay, do you still have the CD?11:36
Church_of_FoamYhell ya you think i'd loos a decent peace of programming lol11:36
Church_of_FoamYright here in my hand11:36
nmorseOk, put it in, mount it, and then in Konsole, do a 'find /media/cdrom/ -iname linux-image*'11:37
Church_of_FoamYnow what linux image thingy am i looking for?11:37
kaythat is what they call the kernel like11:38
Church_of_FoamYbinary-i386?11:38
nmorseIt's a Celeron Coppermine, right?11:38
Church_of_FoamYor the debian installer?11:38
Church_of_FoamYyes11:38
Church_of_FoamY1.oghx11:38
Church_of_FoamYghz even11:38
nmorseSo that's a P3-based Celeron11:38
Church_of_FoamYyes i think so11:39
nmorseSo install the linux-image-2.6.10-5-68611:39
Church_of_FoamYok how?11:39
nmorsedpkg -i $pathtofile/linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-ubuntusomething.deb11:39
nmorseNote: not copy and pasteable, too many people try that with my useless pseudo-commands11:40
Church_of_FoamYsarching for the path11:40
nmorsepreface that dpkg with sudo too11:42
Church_of_FoamYok11:43
Church_of_FoamYlooking for it11:43
Church_of_FoamYit keeps poping these little mounting boxes up11:44
nmorseOkay11:45
Church_of_FoamYit dosen't see it for some reason11:45
Church_of_FoamYany idea of where it might be on the cd?11:45
nmorseDid you try that find command I put up there?11:45
nmorsefind /media/cdrom/ -iname linux-image* ?11:46
Church_of_FoamY:( 11:47
Church_of_FoamYgetting scared 11:47
nmorseThat's ok11:47
nmorsefind /media/crom/ -iname *kernel*11:47
Tm_Tsleep ->11:49
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PupenoWhat should I do to get a video to play when kaffeine reports this error: "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: wmvdmod.dll" ?11:49
_sophieHi all, kunbuntu user for 24 hours and counting I ditch Suse11:50
Church_of_FoamYlinux-image-2.6.10-5-686?11:50
Church_of_FoamYi found it but kinda half manualy11:50
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_sophieAnd I've got 1000'S of questions11:50
nmorsePupeno: are the win32codecs installed?11:50
Church_of_FoamYok i found the matching image11:50
Pupenonmorse: I don't think so, how do I get them ?11:50
_sophiePupeno: how do I install java and a firefox plugin11:51
nmorsethat's it. Install it, Church_of_FoamY11:51
Church_of_FoamYshould i drag it to my desktop to make it easyer?11:51
_sophiePupeno: Mplayer package11:51
nmorseuse the gcjwebplugin, sophie11:51
Pupenonmorse: ok, but, which package is it ?11:51
_sophieuilding dependency tree... Done11:52
_sophieE: Couldn't find package gcjwebplugin11:52
Church_of_FoamYok i moved the image to the desktop11:52
Church_of_FoamYwhats the way to install it again11:52
nmorsedpkg -i packagename.deb11:53
Church_of_FoamYcool11:54
nmorsedid it work?11:55
nmorsePupeno: w32codecs is the package you're looking for11:56
_sophiePupeno: Maybe I don't have apt-get pointing to a repository but I have very litle packages11:56
_sophiePupeno: What are you using11:56
Church_of_FoamYit's not a .deb it's a folder11:56
Pupenonmorse: I can't find it with synaptic, in which repository  is it ?11:57
Pupeno_sophie: mh ?11:57
nmorseHmm, good question, hang on11:57
nmorsemarrilat, Pupeno11:57
nmorseChurch_of_FoamY, what's in that directory?11:58
Church_of_FoamY1 sec11:58
nmorsethe unofficial FAQ's Kplayer entry needs updating11:58
nmorseI have both Kaffeine and Kplayer installed11:59
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nmorsethen again, mine's from marillat11:59
nmorsebe back later12:01

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