[12:05] hey D3 yu there yes man? === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.30] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] kisain: did you write up that wiki? === ubuntu [~ubuntu@spc1-warr2-5-0-cust90.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] naw it diden't work just yet [12:13] although raid one is functioning there are still some problems that i can't figure out [12:14] and it's got me all fuddled lol [12:14] but the install went easy enough once i figured it out [12:14] <[A] ndy80> please anyone knows how can change font for aMule? It uses wx-gtk I think.... is there any general option to modify? === ubuntu is now known as tarball [12:15] <_pvh> I added hoary-updates to my sources, but I still don't see the updated version of Kopete. [12:15] transgress you there man? [12:15] <_pvh> Do I need to add another repo? [12:17] kisain: sort of [12:17] heh [12:17] dude theres a whole bunch of shit i think i still need to do lol [12:18] somethings not right and i can't figure out what lol [12:18] theres a bunch of hints but i don't know enough to understand them lol [12:19] once i get the bugs worked out i will wright that wiki though [12:19] <_pvh> No Kopete repo help from anyone at all? Hasn't anyone else had this problem? [12:19] and hey if i post the errors to you can you help me deciper them? [12:19] not post in room but pm === chavo [~chavo@192.sub-70-213-100.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] _pvh: did you run apt-get update? then apt-get dist-upgrade? [12:21] <_pvh> transgress: Yes -- that's why I'm a bit perplexed. I didn't get any errors on the update and kopete doesn't show as upgradable. [12:22] so transgress can i post them to you in pm? [12:22] maybe you can point me in the right direction? [12:22] _pvh: should've been in one of the stock repos... i got it no problem... you still having the msn problem or what? [12:22] you can post them to me kisain, but i can't assure you that i will be able to help [12:22] <_pvh> transgress: Yeah, just so. Would you mind checking what repo your version of Kopete came from? [12:22] i can probibly fix them if i knew what they where lol [12:23] thank you [12:23] <_pvh> transgress: If they're from a different repo, then I'll post on the forum. Otherwise, maybe I need to blow a cache somewhere. [12:23] <_pvh> s/they're/it's/ [12:24] _pvh: showing hoary-updates as the repo [12:25] <_pvh> transgress: Okay, it must be an apt-get problem. My sources must not be updating properly when I apt-get update, even though kubuntu.org is reporting a hit. [12:26] How do you enable udp ports on firestarter ? === marble [~marble@marblestation.sh.cvut.cz] has joined #kubuntu [12:35] <_pvh> transgress: The Kopete update seems to be pulled from hoary-updates. Does anyone know why that might be? [12:35] because it was an update for hoary? [12:35] oh [12:35] you mean removed from hoary-updates... [12:36] <_pvh> transgress: I looked into the /var/apt/lists file for hoary-updates that I just pulled down -- kaffeine is in there, but not kopete. [12:38] _pvh: interesting... maybe it broke shit. i barely run it, but when i did, it didn't seem to crash anymore than usual [12:38] can somebody tell me the default desktop background color of kubuntu? [12:38] umm blue? [12:38] in Hex. [12:39] what kind of blue. [12:39] I know it's blue, but I accidentally changed it... [12:39] <_pvh> transgress: Ah, that's a possibility I hadn't considered. [12:39] <_pvh> transgress: I wonder who makes those decisions and where they would be logged... [12:40] _pvh: didn't you know? once installing kubuntu we become part of a collective consciousness and we all make the decision. as one. without even knowing it. [12:41] <_pvh> transgress: WOW. [12:41] <_pvh> transgress: That is both beautiful and terrifying. [12:43] grep Color1 /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kdesktoprc [12:43] Color1=0,48,130 [12:44] which is made to blend perfectly in with the background [12:44] <_pvh> transgress: Aha. In https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10993 there is a link to the right repo. [12:45] _pvh: which hoary-updates are you looking at, there's one on archive.ubuntu.com and one on kubuntu.org [12:47] <_pvh> Riddell: kubuntu.org [12:48] _pvh: kubuntu.org hoary-updates is just for stuff that hasn't made it into archive.ubuntu.com, kopete did make it into archive.ubuntu.com [12:48] <_pvh> Riddell: oh! [12:48] <_pvh> Riddell: The main thread on the issue at ubuntuforums.org could use a clarifying post. [12:49] Riddell: what's the kubuntu.org repo? i don't have that one and i think i might like to [12:49] <_pvh> Riddell: I can make an attempt at one, though I can't really claim to fully understand the issues. === NumPy [~NumPy@cpe-66-25-254-156.gt.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] transgress: see /topic [12:49] _pvh: URL? [12:50] Riddell: you think i can read? ;) thanks [12:50] <_pvh> Riddell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35776 [12:50] hey is the kubuntu repo all stable and whatnot and not prone to breaking? [12:52] transgress: it's fixes for things that are broken in hory [12:52] hoary [12:52] so can't make it any worse :) [12:52] Riddell: cool [12:52] Riddell: there a gpg key for it so it doesn't toss me the authentication error? [12:53] transgress: I'm afraid not, I havn't looked up how to do that [12:53] <_pvh> Riddell: Okay, it's all sorted now I think. Thanks for the advice. [12:53] Riddell: oh well. [12:54] _pvh: not sure what I can add to that thread, it does alreay point to the new version in hoary-updates === __P__3 [~princoscr@host-84-220-138-194.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #kubuntu ["rejoining..."] === __P__3 [~princoscr@host-84-220-138-194.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:55] i wish i could figure out how to install themes... i'm not even sure which themes i'm supposed to use... [12:55] <_pvh> Riddell: It doesn't actually say where you can find hoary-updates anywhere in the thread. [12:55] <_pvh> Riddell: I think I can handle adding that though. [12:55] hmm, I have to log in [12:55] these forum things are confusing [12:56] <_pvh> Riddell: yeah, tell me about it. [12:57] <_pvh> Riddell: in fact, I think the advice to make sure hoary-updates "main restricted universe" is plain wrong -- it seems from here like only main actually works. [12:58] main and restriced [12:59] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/ should have the lot [12:59] so they should all work === kisain [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:02] anyone know how to uninstall kubuntu desktop (it's causing isshues with software raid 1 [01:03] i installed it using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [01:03] kisain: what are the issues? [01:03] it shouldn't affect raid at all [01:03] well i'm having trouble accesing drives in it for one [01:04] i poseted a request on the forums would you like the link? [01:04] can do [01:04] it does i can't get into any hds [01:04] it says there not mounted [01:05] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36286 [01:05] thats my thread i started [01:05] it pritty much explanes everything i can think of [01:06] i wish i was smarter than linux at this time lol [01:07] it's funny becuase i can open up everything in ubuntu but nothing in kubuntu [01:08] kisain: gvm is handy about getting strange things to mount... [01:08] gvm? [01:09] i tell ya it's got my hair fallin out from stress lol [01:09] and whats gvm transgress? [01:09] kisain: gnome volume manager i believe... it's part of gnome 2.10 that works magic [01:10] <_ali> goodbye everybody [01:10] oh [01:10] thats why ubuntu works eh? [01:10] <_ali> I don't know what time it is in your country, but it is night in mine, so good night :) [01:10] night [01:11] any idea riddlell? [01:12] riddell even [01:12] kisain: I'm not sure what the problem is [01:12] same here [01:12] i know theres no swap partition though [01:12] kisain: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop won't have changes fstab or any default mounts [01:12] i forgot to make one lol [01:13] then you'll need to format the disk to make one, unless it has spare space [01:13] than why can't i access any of the drives in kubuntu? [01:13] what really [01:13] kisain: how are you trying to access them? [01:14] damnit all this hard work down the tubes lol [01:14] in the kubuntu er i forget what it's called [01:14] the icon next to k-star === _osh [~osh@81-231-230-175-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] start even [01:14] system menu === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-151-205-47-40.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:15] i think so [01:15] yes [01:15] it shoes 2 hard drives when ubuntu only showes one (the md0 ) [01:16] shows even arggh typos [01:16] it has me completely stumped [01:16] if i take any more asprin i'm gonna bleed ta death i tell ya lol [01:17] i think somehow with software raid 1 i am missing a step someware [01:17] but not shure where [01:17] i don't wanna have to reformat and all that stuff [01:18] there has to be a way to put a swap partition in and fix the isshue of raid not working right [01:18] okay check dmesg from kubuntu... for some reason your raid device isn't moutning [01:18] kisain: you didn't make a swap? [01:18] oh ok how do i do that [01:18] type dmesg [01:18] no i had to make a swap "file" as an after thought [01:19] WOAH! [01:19] kisain: so you do have a swap partition? [01:19] you want me to past all the crap it just spit out? [01:19] no i don't [01:20] i created a file [01:20] not a partition [01:21] riddell you want me to paste the output to you in pm? [01:22] theres alot of stuff in there === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] and oh yea thats the output from the ubuntu side [01:25] cause i'm in ubuntu right now lol [01:26] kubuntu was givin me to much trouble at this time [01:27] kisain: didn't you have an extra 10 gigs you aren't using due to the different drive sizes? [01:27] yes [01:27] but with raid i was told you need partitions the same size [01:27] why don't you cut it up and make a partition for swap? [01:27] and you do [01:27] because the 10gb is not even partitiond [01:28] Is there any of those games in which you participate in a story-line-less community, interacting with other playes, buying things, selling ,fighting, etc ? [01:28] thats why the raid 1 is kinda working lol [01:28] kisain: that's why you cut it up and make some swap space and an extra partition for whatever you want [01:28] oh i see [01:28] i'm assuming you can do that... i mean it is still free space [01:28] but will it mess up my raid any more than it is now? === nuOpus [~ccox@ip68-104-151-160.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] because the impression i was under was that if one hd fails the other will take over [01:29] thats why i picked raid 1 [01:30] but if using that other 10gb screws things up than i'd like to find a solution using the exisiting partitions [01:35] riddell you there? [01:46] say does breezy have kde 3.4 in it already? [01:46] or can I install it? [01:50] Can anybody help me with guarddog/guidedog or firestarter? [01:51] dewey: hoary has kde 3.4 [01:53] Pupeno: and breezy does not? [01:53] dewey: I'd infeer that breezy has 3.4 too. [01:53] ok kewl [01:54] and possible, better. [01:55] is there a program like firestart/guardog/guidedog that allows to open UDP ports and works ? [01:59] seeing people talk about breezy like that scares me [02:00] riddell you there? [02:01] why? [02:01] i;m still trying to find an answer to my problem lol [02:01] i'm still trying to uninstall kubuntu for the time being though lol [02:02] just to avoid further problems [02:03] kisain: uninstrall does not make a lot of sense. [02:04] kisain: what problem? [02:04] kubuntu won't mount my software raid 1 because theres something wrong with it [02:05] i posted the problem here : [02:05] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36286 [02:06] and i have absolutely know idea what to do lol [02:06] how to fix this problem or even what it might be [02:06] i just know that theres something wrong [02:07] expacaly when the word error appears in a text [02:07] thanx dewey [02:07] :( === osh_ [~osh@81-231-230-175-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] ok I am back so much for breezy! [02:14] haha good idea [02:14] The installer wants me to use all the HD for breezy so it would wipe out my other linux installs? === Pupeno [~Pupeno@host182.201-252-6.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] dewey: yes - so use manually [02:15] KaiL: I was using that and the installer help said it would not see any other partitoions on the HD? [02:15] partitions. [02:17] huh? [02:17] on my ibook during install all partitions showed during the manula partitioning. [02:18] KaiL: during the install all it shows is the two HD's I have on this computer no partitons I have made already. [02:18] hmm, strange [02:18] and no idea, what's going on there === kisain [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has left #kubuntu [] === KaiL [KaiL@p548F7E18.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === rommer [~BlackLabe@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === frank_ [~frank@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp3501035.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === sikelik [~sikelik@ti400720a080-2242.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu === moj0rising [~whatever@ip68-108-92-247.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:16] does anyone here know of a good place to get exponent information? [03:16] I am stuck on a couple things and can't find what I need anywhere. [03:17] wow the first season of the original Dr. Who had 42 episodes... they apparently knew how to do a season back in the day [03:25] moj0rising: exponent information ? what's that ? [04:14] cool, new amarok version [04:28] can anyone help me with artsd (kubuntu64). It crashes all the time === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp223-32.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === bkuebler [~bkuebler@pcp0012006241pcs.selrsv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === coreymon77 [~coreymon@Quebec-HSE-ppp3616334.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === n17r0 [~n17r0@amf-zlh-90d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Ghetek [~administr@c-24-7-52-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] my audio isnt working again [04:52] Ghetek, my artsd crashes all the time. do you have the same problem? === n17r0 [~n17r0@amf-zlh-90d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [04:53] i dunno [04:53] every now and then i startup and get a null audio device [04:53] hi anyone has a link for the KDE-libs fix ? [04:53] and i can see my card on the lspic menu === mrmanic|afk is away (going offline) [04:54] Ghetek, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't? [04:54] yeah [04:54] i don't know what to do [04:55] damn === rufino [~rufino@84-122-0-140.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _coreymon [~coreymon@Quebec-HSE-ppp3616334.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === _coreymon is now known as coreymon77 === coreymon77 is now known as _coreymon_ === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === biovore [~kvirc@h-66-167-232-106.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === kane [~kane@1Cust560.an4.det15.da.uu.net] has joined #kubuntu === donald [~donald@pool-71-115-44-192.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:31] anyone home === tim_h_ [~Tim@p54A1B513.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:44] im home [05:46] im gettina a null audio device and i can see my card in the lspci printout === tim_h [~Tim@p54A1B635.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] what card is it? [05:48] sb live [05:48] 0000:02:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 7000 (rev 07)v [05:49] it was working yesterday... [05:49] well it shows two devices [05:49] 0000:02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0000 (rev 07) [05:49] 0000:02:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 7000 (rev 07) === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as lucychili [05:50] heh [05:50] I wonder what you broke [05:51] psh... no idea [05:51] do any kernel upgrading lately? [05:51] nope [05:51] http://pastebin.com/288231 [05:51] did you upgrade any packages? [05:52] let me check [05:52] last night i played a dvd [05:52] and it was choppy so i did this [05:52] sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd [05:52] and it worked even better [05:52] well that wouldnt have done it [05:52] then i turned off my computer [05:52] and i started it this morning [05:53] and no audio === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-67-101-148-6.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [05:53] alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory [05:53] it failed because theres no driver loaded. [05:54] try rebooting [05:54] k [05:54] brb === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-67-101-148-6.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === myghetek [~administr@c-24-7-52-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:57] nope [05:57] same error [05:57] well Ive ran out of ideas [05:57] damn [05:58] thanks anyway man === mr_clark [~john@S010600c095ece5cb.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === lucychili is now known as Kubuntu === Kubuntu is now known as Chan0P === Chan0P is now known as Nick0P === mr_clark [~john@S010600c095ece5cb.ok.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === Nick0P is now known as Kamping_Kaiser === myghetek [~administr@c-24-7-52-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === _smt [~sashmit@user-1120tum.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === JohninMT [~chatzilla@67-42-224-59.blng.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:22] I have a question about adding a backport repository... I am trying to get the kipi plugins for digikam,,, I found a post in a forum with http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary/Pkgs.php to get it ...but how do I add it to the list === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as Kaiser_away === Jeezis [~roger@4.23.231.2] has joined #kubuntu === Liz4rd [~Anubis@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] bleh [06:47] wtf... you all are so boring [06:47] usually i need someone to talk to, to get the channel going [06:48] lots of other channels... [06:49] no dammit i like this one [06:49] :P === Ghetek [~administr@c-24-7-52-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:51] ah yes, channel loyalty at its best [06:51] how do i kill synaptic? the program locked up [06:51] and i just want to kill it [06:51] *pants* :P *pants* [06:53] you got off of jabber... [06:53] ? [06:55] irc is cooler, who needs jabber? ;P [06:55] jabber is nice... although yes irc is cooler [06:55] im on gaim :( [06:55] although you can't not accept people on irc [06:56] gaim supports jabber [06:56] oooh [06:56] i wish i knew what jaoober is [06:56] *jabber [06:56] so... killing synaptic? [06:58] jabber is an open source IM network [06:58] all my friends are windows people and on aim [06:59] brb === Ghetek [~administr@c-24-7-52-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] wahoo! [07:01] ctrl alt bckspce === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Ghetek [~administr@c-24-7-52-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === pv_ [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu [07:30] poor friends. [07:30] Real friends don't let friends run windows. === NothingButYou [~slimmer@slimmer.c0msys.net] has joined #kubuntu === steffenstrobel [~steffenst@p54969EA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:33] hi everybody, i have seen there are now a lot of kde updates, is it now safe to update (kdelibs!)? [07:33] umm it's been safe to update kdelibs as far as i know [07:33] i've updated it twice since i installed kubuntu i believe === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [07:33] do not do that now [07:34] yesterday I've messed up my kubuntu when dist-upgrading [07:34] eh? [07:34] there's a problem with the dependencies so far as I've seen [07:34] how did you mess it up with dist-upgrade? i dist-upgrade every few days [07:34] you've seen wrong [07:34] unless you're running breezy [07:34] well.. I was with a hoary [07:34] a clean installation [07:35] there is a bug that is easily fixed with conflicts between kdelibs and knetwork [07:35] and dist-upgraded to breezy [07:35] ./topic [07:35] well no shit that'll break your system [07:35] and ended up with no konqueror and kdebase [07:35] kubuntu breezy is about as stable as charles manson on crack [07:35] yes, but now kdenetwork is among the list of packages that need updating! [07:36] ./topic [07:37] do you mean: the deb source or "breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun" [07:37] :) [07:37] and the kdelibs depency problems where about kdenetwork and now it seems that there is a new version of kdenetwork === Mestapheles [~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:39] and the srcipt to repair the damage caused by kdelibs is also not anymore in the topic of this channel :) === Kaiser_away is now known as Kamping_Kaiser [07:41] so is it now fixed or not? [07:42] I'll check it out now :P [07:42] damn 15 kb/s... [07:43] :) [07:44] I want a bulgarian mirrorrrrrrrrrrrrr... === chavo [~chavo@192.sub-70-213-100.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:45] how do i set the default suspend-to partition (/dev/hda3 - my swap) in swsusp thats in kernel ? NOT swsusp2... === brandonn [~brandonn@66-7-184-2.estreet.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:45] How big is the ubuntu repository? [07:45] hey I've got a question! :) Is any of the ubuntu repositories taken from the debian repositories so I can use a debian repository instead (contrib non-free?) [07:46] NothingButYou: it is, but you can't use a debian repository. The packages aren't the same [07:47] bad.. :) I thought that the universe is the same as the contrib :\ [07:47] thanks billytwowilly [07:48] NothingButYou: no prob. [07:48] steffenstrobel: my Kubuntu is Hoary at the moment and the only updates shown are kdenetwork, no kdelibs ... :\ [07:49] NothingButYou: i updatet every other packages but not the 3 kdelibs packages. and today when i did my apt-get update i noticed that there are now 15 new updates avaible [07:50] among them are 3 kdenetwork packages [07:50] yes [07:50] and these packages had a conflict with kdelibs [07:51] steffenstrobel: uninstall kdenetwork. Then install the kdelibs [07:51] steffenstrobel: then reinstall kdenetwork. it's a PITA, but it works. [07:52] yes, but now kdenetwork is among the list of packages that need updating [07:52] and before it wasn't there [07:52] well now it is there :) [07:52] remove it :) [07:52] yes, but the question is: are the problems still there!? [07:52] steffenstrobel: that could be normal. Maybe there was a security update? [07:53] steffenstrobel: what problems? [07:53] i think (or i hope) they updatet it in order to solve the depency problems [07:53] no, just the old kdenetwork will not work with the new kdelibs maybe :) [07:53] and the new will :) I hope [07:53] NothingButYou: you got it :) [07:53] steffenstrobel: it's semi fixed. If you do what I mentioned above that will get you past the rough patch and into fixed territory;) [07:54] steffenstrobel: uninstall kdenetwork. Then install the kdelibs [07:54] steffenstrobel: then reinstall kdenetwork. it's a PITA, but it works. [07:54] NothingButYou: you are simply updating, or not? [07:55] billytwowilly: but wasn't that the way to solve these problems BEFORE the new kdenetwork update? [07:55] well I've just added the kubuntu.org repository and the update process works fine with the simple update [07:55] steffenstrobel: I did that and it fixed it. The old way is to delete one file whose name escapes me.. [07:56] NothingButYou: how many packages did you update now? [07:57] hey does anyone know why digikam has a problem hotplugging after about 30 times of unplugging and plugging back in? it takes a reboot to fix it pretty much... [07:57] right now I'm downloading about 10-15 [07:57] among them kdenet and kdelibs [07:57] and i figure... i fucking hate to reboot... and this is linux... so there must be a better way [07:58] there is a way to stop the hotplug system ? :) [07:58] NothingButYou: did you do are reboot? when i updatet (a few weeks before) the kdelibs package i need to reboot in order to see that it's now broken :) [07:58] I mean restart it maybe :) [07:59] NothingButYou: /etc/init.d/hotplug stop [07:59] or restart instead of stop [07:59] isn't that the solution of transgress 's problem ? :) [07:59] yes :) [07:59] steffenstrobel: I'll tell you in ... mmm [07:59] I don't know. I haven't been following.. I told him how to fix it already;) [08:00] 72 percent :))) [08:00] I have other things requiring my attention;) [08:00] NothingButYou: :) === rohandhruva_ [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [08:00] steffenstrobel: I told you - 20 kb/s :PPP [08:01] hmm damn thing still doesn't wanna connect [08:01] wonder what it is [08:01] NothingButYou: oh well i always have 120kb/s but i'm using a german mirror and i live in germany :) [08:02] eh..... === NothingButYou longs for a mirror... :} [08:03] NothingButYou: and 120 is the maximum of Connection :) === rohandhruva_ is now known as da_bon_bon [08:03] NothingButYou: do you want that mirror? [08:04] well .. in Bulgaria the Debian , Fedora , Suse, Mandrake and Slackware Mirrors do 450 k :) === _chavo [~chavo@75.sub-70-212-13.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:04] with my connection.. but :\ no ubuntu.. just a CD Image mirror exists [08:04] NothingButYou: i think the german mirror is also faster but my DSL isn't faster [08:05] It's all about the money :) damn them! :) [08:05] 50 %.. [08:06] NothingButYou: a few minutes before it was 72%? [08:06] no .. it was 28 :))))))))) [08:06] NothingButYou: ah ok :) [08:07] in the meantime why don't you remove the kdenetwork packages ? :) [08:07] or you are waiting for my machine to blow :)) === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [08:08] NothingButYou: well i think if it's fixed, i don't need to remove that package! and concerning our second question: if you don't reappear in this channel after you told me that you now reboot i will NOT update... :) [08:09] :)) [08:10] hm.. I suppose that a Ctl Alt + Backspace will do the same :) [08:10] no need of reboot :} (right?:) [08:11] NothingButYou: i think this should also work [08:11] NothingButYou: kde eeds to be restarted [08:11] needs [08:11] yepp [08:12] brb for 21 %... [08:12] ? === F_for_Fragging [~sander@a82-92-1-250.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu [08:18] be right back :) I'm back... [08:18] and Kynaptic is frozen as usual.. [08:18] ah ti ended..now lets logout... === NothingButYou [~slimmer@slimmer.c0msys.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:19] up and workin.. [08:19] there you are [08:20] what did you mean by kynaptic is frozen? === da_bon_bon is now known as da_bon_bon|away [08:20] a .. :) the time it takes to apply the changes :) [08:20] ok [08:20] it went fine :) [08:20] i see [08:20] kopete works... :) === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [08:21] good luck [08:21] i think i will do it on the commandline to see what sgoing on [08:21] just the upgrade :) not dist-upgrade [08:21] I don't think it's necessary [08:22] i thought of doing update and that dist-upgrade [08:22] well update and upgrade will be fine [08:22] for me at least :} [08:22] i always did that. i like "intelligent" things... [08:23] let's see if kdenetworkconf works already.. [08:25] damn, this is frustrating. === NothingButYou [~slimmer@slimmer.c0msys.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:26] as usual it is now working right... [08:26] i will now close all programs, open a terminal do update then dist-upgrade and then reboot, i will not delete kdenetwork before! i hope i will be back here soon! [08:26] anyone know the trick to kppp , keeps droping connection [08:26] :) [08:26] hm.. [08:27] kane are you sure the problem is in kppp or in the Phone line ? :) [08:27] Does anybody has a good explanation why a firewall/masquerader work perfectly well with firestarter while with guarddog/guidedog works well as long as I access the services thru telnet (telnet somewhere 25, telnet somewhere 110, etc) or dig, but all KDE applications fail to access internet (Konqueror, Kontact) ? [08:27] NothingButYou: i have pppconfig working atm [08:28] kppp just drops it as it connects [08:28] mm.. I'm not a specialist.. scuze me :) What's ATM ? :) [08:29] at the momet [08:30] aaa right :) [08:30] i'm using pppd right now [08:30] ppp0 i mean [08:30] no one has a clue about it ? [08:30]