[11:41] <Luciph3r> ciao ragazzi
[04:07] <thesaltydog> which is the policy to have an application in launchpad?
[04:08] <thesaltydog> err..Rosetta?
[04:12] <carlos> thesaltydog, you request it and we import it
[04:12] <thesaltydog> so simple?
[04:12] <carlos> yes
[04:12] <carlos> thesaltydog, are you the upstream maintainer?
[04:12] <thesaltydog> ok. I am collecting translators for my application right now. Do you need me to send you the .pot file?
[04:13] <thesaltydog> I am the author of Ubuntu Bootup Manager
[04:14] <thesaltydog> carlos, ?
[04:15] <carlos> thesaltydog, http://www.ubuntulinux.com/wiki/RosettaFAQ, look at point #3
[04:15] <carlos> thesaltydog, hmm is it useful outside Ubuntu?
[04:15] <thesaltydog> ok.. I'll look and be back.
[04:16] <carlos> thesaltydog, if it's only useful inside Ubuntu, you don't need to do it
[04:16] <carlos> thesaltydog, we will get it automatically as soon as Breezy enters into launchpad
[04:16] <thesaltydog> it is ONLY for ubuntu
[04:17] <carlos> thesaltydog, then, you need to wait until we are ready to import Breezy into launchpad (in about a month)
[04:17] <thesaltydog> carlos, ok. I will wait. But in such a case how can you be aware of how many .po files I already have?
[04:17] <carlos> you don't need to do anything we will fetch it automatically
[04:18] <thesaltydog> OK, thanks a lot.
[04:18] <carlos> thesaltydog, if they are inside the Ubuntu source package we will detect it
[04:18] <carlos> and will be imported automatically
[04:18] <thesaltydog> oh, I don't know. It is in UniverseCandidates
[04:20] <carlos> thesaltydog, well as long as you add the .po files you get until we add it to Rosetta to the source code, it's enough
[04:20] <thesaltydog> So, I will continue collecting .po by myself. There is a thread in ubuntuforums.
[04:21] <carlos> ok
[04:21] <thesaltydog> carlos, thanks. Bye
[04:22] <carlos> thesaltydog, you are welcome
[04:22] <carlos> bye
[04:27] <mdke> ola thesaltydog 
[04:28] <thesaltydog> matt !!!
[04:28] <mdke> hi
[04:28] <thesaltydog> I have just fixed the matter of ubm on rosetta..
[04:29] <mdke> in what way?
[04:29] <thesaltydog> they will fetch it automatically in Rosetta when Breezy comes. In about a month.
[04:30] <mdke> it will not get uploaded automatically unless it is uploaded into a Breezy archive
[04:30] <mdke> so it depends on whether it goes into Universe or not
[04:30] <thesaltydog> if not, I will do it by myself. I already have italian/frech/spanish and tomorrow german.
[04:31] <mdke> thesaltydog, i would suggest that you ask carlos to put it in rosetta outside the Ubuntu section, as an upstream program. That way it can be inserted immediately, and it won't depend on whether they accept the package into universe
[04:33] <carlos> thesaltydog, is not sure that it will end in ubuntu's archive?
[04:33] <carlos> mdke, hi
[04:33] <mdke> hiya
[04:33] <mdke> carlos, it is in the list of candidates for an archive but its not in there
[04:34] <thesaltydog> carlos, no, it is not yet sure.
[04:34] <carlos> thesaltydog, when will you know it?
[04:34] <mdke> it depends on whether one of the developers decides to maintain it or not
[04:34] <thesaltydog> carlos, it doesn't depend upon myself. When ubuntu's people decide..
[04:35] <carlos> I don't understand then..
[04:35] <carlos> you are developing an Ubuntu specific package
[04:35] <carlos> but you are not sure it will enter into Ubuntu?
[04:35] <mdke> carlos, thats correct
[04:36] <mdke> carlos, it is a boot service manager, he wrote it because it is useful and there is no current equivalent, but it may be that the Ubuntu guys will write their own app for breezy. His is useful now because there is no alternative program. It is used by many Ubuntu forum users
[04:36] <mdke> he also packaged it himself
[04:37] <carlos> we can do the upstream approach, I don't like it too much, but, if you send me an email if the package enters into Ubuntu, I can move then the translations inside Ubuntu (but the old URL will not work anymore)
[04:37] <mdke> well if the package enters into ubuntu, it will get created into the breezy section of rosetta automatically no?
[04:38] <carlos> mdke, yeah, and will be more difficult to migrate all translations from one section to the other
[04:39] <carlos> that's why I want  to know it before it happens and we don't leave garbage behind us
[04:39] <mdke> ah i c
[04:39] <carlos> thesaltydog, if you agree, then follow the instructions I pointed you, please
[04:40] <thesaltydog> carlos, I understand that it could be a mess for you. Maybe it's better I continue by myself, and then - if accepted - it will be included in breezy..
[04:41] <carlos> thesaltydog, it's not a mess, don't worry
[04:41] <carlos> thesaltydog, and you will get more translations if you start using Rosetta now
[04:42] <thesaltydog> ok. I will decide this aftrnoon and let you know. Now I am in a hurry. Have to go.
[04:42] <thesaltydog> carlos, ciao
[04:42] <thesaltydog> mdke, ciao
[04:42] <mdke> a dopo
[04:43] <mdke> carlos, i totally failed to find a decent xhtml -> pot process for the ubuntuguide.org document :/
[04:43] <carlos> mdke, they should move to docbook
[04:44] <mdke> carlos, yep
[04:44] <mdke> carlos, the author is a little stubborn
[04:44] <mdke> we ported the warty version of the guide to docbook, but he made the second version in xhtml anyway
[04:44] <mdke> maybe for the third version we'll have more luck
[04:46] <carlos> mdke, you should try to show him the things he will win (like Rosetta to get translations, pdf and ps export, etc...) 
[04:52] <mdke> carlos, yeah i did :/
[04:53] <mdke> he says he will move
[05:01] <carlos> well, hope he does it soon...
[05:01] <carlos> in the mean time, don't lose your time with xhtml->po seems like it's not trivial...
[05:02] <carlos> and I'm sure you have better things to work on :-)
[05:03] <mdke> fair enough
[05:03] <mdke> i should pay some attention to my course
[05:29] <carlos> mdke, yeah, me too :-(
[05:30] <mdke> *grins*
[05:30] <mdke> carlos, what do you do?
[05:33] <carlos> mdke, computer science
[05:34] <mdke> cool
[07:16] <Luciph3r> ave
[11:36] <Burgundavia> bradb, ping
[11:36] <bradb> Burgundavia: hi
[11:36] <Burgundavia> trying to get your for days, but we never seem to cross paths
[11:36] <Burgundavia> yes we did meet in Spain
[11:37] <bradb> i thought so :)