[12:02] <mdke> carthik, but I hope the markup won't stop you from participating :)
[12:03] <mdke> carthik, media wiki was rejected because they are _very_ tight on security in the ubuntu servers and they don't like using php
[12:05] <carthik> mdke, cool. I understand the reasons, but non-camelcase links are friendlier and more meaningful, semantically
[12:07] <mdke> i presume there is a way to avoid the CamelCase turning into links
[12:07] <mdke> not sure what tho
[12:15] <mdke> oooh
[12:15] <mdke> just discovered a toolchain for moin -> pot
[12:18] <carthik> mdke, the printer section hopefully looks better now: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[12:18] <carthik> please fix the automatic camel case linking, if you can.
[12:18] <mdke> carthik, cool
[12:18] <carthik> and thanks
[12:18] <carthik> later!
[12:18] <mdke> carthik, if i find out i will fix
[05:19] <jsgotangco> robitaille, hi
[05:19] <robitaille> hello
[07:38] <froud> morning all
[08:09] <jsgotangco> hey froud
[08:09] <jsgotangco> how was your telecon?
[08:37] <froud> jsgotangco: it was good
[08:38] <froud> I think mdke or hendrik will post a summary
[08:42] <jsgotangco> sorry i wasnt able to join i think i received mdke's sms around 11pm
[08:43] <froud> that's OK
[08:44] <jsgotangco> i see you've started cleaning up trunk :)
[08:44] <froud> I think we decided on a horse-shoe approach to the docbook wiki thing
[08:44] <froud> cleaning
[08:44] <froud> no I did some adding
[08:44] <jsgotangco> horse shoe approach?
[08:44] <froud> yeah the idea was a round trip
[08:45] <froud> but that is not easy with moin
[08:45] <froud> so if I recall correctly
[08:45] <froud> we want first to id some docs that are stable
[08:45] <froud> and port them to docbook
[08:45] <froud> once in svn the docs on wiki will no longer be editable
[08:46] <froud> from the main wiki
[08:46] <froud> we wil then have a new wiki, on which we will be able to edit the docs
[08:46] <jsgotangco> ahhh so this is all about farming good wiki entries to be published into our main docbook svn
[08:46] <froud> yes
[08:46] <froud> but the process is not seamless and hendrik has to look at several issues
[08:47] <jsgotangco> i shall await their emails then
[08:47] <froud> basically they want a way to exchange formats between moin and docbook
[08:47] <froud> anyway, I exaplined that I am focused on the stuff in svn
[08:48] <froud> if they find a solution and check it in to svn then I will collaborate
[08:48] <jsgotangco> i think mdke would love to do this wiki stuff
[08:48] <froud> sure, if they find a solution that Canonical and the users can use, then they should go for it
[08:49] <froud> For me, I am just focused on svn and docbook
[08:50] <jsgotangco> well henrik is there so i guess they're willing to spend on that
[09:56] <froud> jsgotangco: yeah, I think after the conversation hendrik now has a bigger and clearer picture of the problem in general. So hopefully he can find a solution.
[11:13] <mdke> morning guys
[11:13] <mdke> jsgotangco, :D
[11:13] <jsgotangco> mdke, hi sorry i wasn't able to reply
[11:13] <jsgotangco> is that your mobile phone?
[11:13] <mdke> no problemo
[11:14] <jsgotangco> it was already past 11pm
[11:14] <mdke> jsgotangco, yes, you didn't get my reply last night?
[11:14] <mdke> i got your text, and replied to it
[11:14] <jsgotangco> nope
[11:14] <mdke> ok weird
[11:14] <jsgotangco> how did it go anyway
[11:14] <mdke> but you got my first text?
[11:14] <jsgotangco> i did
[11:15] <jsgotangco> im using a gsm phone so i should have received it
[11:15] <mdke> hmm
[11:15] <mdke> it went ok
[11:15] <mdke> i will write something up
[11:16] <jsgotangco> that would be nice
[11:17] <jsgotangco> so only 3 of you got to talk?
[11:17] <mdke> yes
[11:17] <mdke> we tried ringing you in the end but it didn't ring for some reason
[11:18] <mdke> anyway it went ok
[11:18] <jsgotangco> my phone didn't ring at all
[11:18] <jsgotangco> (my mobile at least)
[11:18] <jsgotangco> it should have reflected as missed call
[11:18] <mdke> hmmm
[11:20] <mdke> ;)
[11:20] <mdke> don't you like it there?
[11:21] <mdke> jiyuu0, ping?
[11:21] <jsgotangco> mdke, if given the opportunity, i would move :)
[11:23] <mdke> where to?
[11:24] <jsgotangco> probably canada or somewhere in europe
[11:24] <mdke> i've heard canada is amazing
[11:26] <jsgotangco> they have an aging population thus, immigration is widely embraced
[11:26] <jsgotangco> either aging or not increasing
[11:26] <jsgotangco> heh
[11:30] <mdke> yeah i heard immigrating there was easy
[11:30] <mdke> some relatives of mine went out there not too long ago
[11:30] <mdke> from switzerland
[11:30] <jsgotangco> hmm
[11:31] <jsgotangco> switzerland is a bad place?
[11:31] <jsgotangco> (probably expensive)
[11:33] <mdke> its not too bad
[11:33] <mdke> they moved for work reasons
[11:33] <mdke> i wouldn't live in switzerland tho
[11:33] <mdke> the people are quite closed minded
[11:33] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[11:33] <jsgotangco> you mean conservative?
[11:33] <mdke> yes
[11:34] <mdke> but its a great place for skiing ;)
[11:34] <jsgotangco> and chocolates
[11:34] <jsgotangco> heh
[11:35] <jsgotangco> i decided to move elsewhere because in my family, im the only one left here
[11:35] <mdke> oh right
[11:35] <mdke> do you have children?
[11:36] <jsgotangco> my parents are in the us, while one brother is in auckland
[11:36] <jsgotangco> i have a daughter
[11:36] <jsgotangco> (3 yrs 4 mos)
[11:36] <mdke> ok
[11:46] <mdke> so moving would be doable
[11:48] <jsgotangco> its more of an economy thing
[11:48] <jsgotangco> if the economy here is good i wouldn't move
[11:48] <jsgotangco> just like other people
[11:48] <jsgotangco> but people here move elsewhere  for economic reasons almost always
[11:49] <mdke> yeep
[11:49] <jsgotangco> in the news here, they've been debating a $3 wage hike for months
[11:55] <mdke> so if that comes through, you might stay?
[11:55] <jsgotangco> hah
[11:56] <jsgotangco> what can $3 do?
[11:56] <mdke> per hour?
[11:56] <jsgotangco> per day
[11:56] <jsgotangco> heh
[11:56] <mdke> oh right
[11:56] <mdke> sorry
[11:57] <jsgotangco> $1 USD = P54 Philippine Pesos
[11:57] <jsgotangco> Unleaded Gas = P29/liter
[11:57] <jsgotangco> heh
[11:57] <mdke> wow
[11:58] <jsgotangco> i think the minimum wage here is P250/day
[11:59] <mdke> you're married aren't you?
[11:59] <jsgotangco> yeah
[11:59] <mdke> would it be a problem for your wife to move?
[12:01] <jsgotangco> nahh she wants to move to and finish her graduate studies somewhere
[12:01] <mdke> ok cool
[12:02] <jsgotangco> she's actually just a few more units short of her PhD in economics
[12:03] <mdke> wow
[12:03] <jsgotangco> yeah pretty smart for 29
[12:03] <jsgotangco> hehe
[12:03] <jsgotangco> family way just got in the way
[12:08] <mdke> Be BaCk LaTeR
[12:32] <jsgotangco> me too im going
[12:32] <jsgotangco> later
[05:53] <mdke> froud, nice one on incoming/
[05:53] <mdke> thanks a lot for those templates
[05:54] <froud> hope they help
[05:56] <mdke> i'm sure they will
[06:14] <froud> anyone know if devel have made available the breezy repos?
[06:15] <mdke> not sure
[06:15] <mdke> mdz is around tho
[06:16] <froud> jdub: is the breezy main, restricted and universe available?
[08:12] <mdke> jiyuu0, ping?
[08:13] <jiyuu0> mdke, i'm heading out now... catch u later :)
[08:13] <mdke> ok
[08:13] <mdke> i'll leave you a msg
[08:13] <jiyuu0> thanks :)