[12:02] they will have linux for it ;) [12:02] hm yeah? [12:02] ogra: that would rock so hard [12:02] I would be surprised if xbox didn't run some windows version, really. [12:02] ogra: ms embedded linux [12:02] hehe [12:02] that'd be scary; I'm really worried of MS using linux as the core and putting a proprietary GUI on it. [12:03] Mithrandir: it just seems like it took them forever to even make it 64 bit compatible on a somewhat compatible cpu [12:03] tseng: not really, you get ia64-enabled windows. [12:03] im sure they *could* do it on ppc [12:03] Mithrandir: The Xbox uses a Win2k kernel. [12:03] And Direct X, from what I've heard. [12:03] Amaranth: we're talking about xbox 360 here. [12:03] Amaranth, on ppc ? [12:04] not the xbox 1. [12:04] well, the NT kernel is highly portable... [12:04] hmm [12:04] or so they claim. It's less portable than it was. [12:05] if portable means i can transport it on a floppy, then i agree.... [12:05] hah [12:05] USB sticks are more portable than floppies. :P [12:05] lol === Cybermagellan [~shawn@ip68-231-152-140.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] Are there any specific guidlines/responisbilities to being a MOTU? [12:06] I still love floppy diskettes, though [12:07] Cybermagellan: yes, it's outlined on the wiki [12:07] Yeah I am reading it....just wondering anything really specific [12:08] the recruitment page and the membership/maintainership pages should cover most of it [12:08] I'm reading http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUTeams any other page I should read? [12:08] start with MOTU and branch from there [12:08] Teams is a bit different [12:08] yay, herve finally has tulip building [12:08] and doesnt require actually being a motu [12:08] to participate [12:09] yeah, anyone can join a Team [12:09] Cybermagellan, MOTURecruitment or MOTUGettingInvolved [12:10] this usb hub is bogus [12:10] it keeps droping my usb hd and remount it [12:15] hm openbsd has a port for my sgi o2 [12:16] is there a MOTU for Firefox/Thunderbird? [12:16] no [12:17] both of them are in main [12:17] we only take care of universe (with a couple exceptions: ogra, dholbach, and others soon can upload to main) [12:18] So those packages are maintained by who? [12:18] by MOM [12:18] MOM? [12:18] masters of main [12:18] no one person claims ownership, though certainly some people have their active packages [12:19] in this way, it's different from Debian [12:19] Right... [12:19] you can make a team for stuff in main [12:19] just fix bugs and send them to the maintainer [12:20] yeah, patches are always welcome :) [12:20] I don't know much about programming in Linux...and am new to Ubuntu...however I do know a good bit about project management....anything that I can do? Or should aim to? [12:21] well i was thinking the other day [12:21] we could probably use someone in a management capacity to triage/manage bugs [12:21] mdz seems to be the only one doing it atm [12:21] and he has more important things to be working on for sure [12:22] well to be fair, we're all supposed to be doing that ;) [12:22] eh. [12:22] Well I do project management for another company....so it's some experience I have [12:23] so where is the "unassigned bugs" stored query [12:23] oh you mean the pile of stuff I haven't even looked at? ;) [12:23] bradb would probably know [12:23] yeah [12:23] i meant on bugzilla [12:23] oh, no clue [12:23] malone doesnt even grok the word query [12:23] https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AnteKaramatic - does this looks ok? :) [12:24] (i know, he's fixing it) [12:24] ivoks: yes [12:25] ivoks: can you list cxx packages youve touched? [12:25] ivoks: my only suggestion is to list all the CXX packages you've worked with [12:25] crimsun++ [12:25] uh... [12:25] (yeah, even if it's a bunch, it helps the tech board grasp the scope of your involvement) [12:25] sources or packages? :) [12:25] either is fine in this case [12:26] that's over 20 packages [12:26] that's cool, list 'em all [12:26] definately [12:26] again, this is good for the TB [12:26] it will *really* help if you go for MOTU [12:26] to have a huge list of packages already fixed up [12:26] that rocks. [12:28] hey, i think it's been two weeks since the thing about mono was put in the topic ;) [12:29] damn [12:29] well [12:29] im blocked by dbus and maybe cxx to fix the rest [12:29] so it still applies :) [12:29] yeah, libdbus-cil would pretty much have to be rewritten, wouldn't it? [12:29] erm, no [12:29] just that mono has to move to main [12:30] so we can build the bindings in the dbus source package [12:30] you cant pull build-deps to main from universe without seeding them [12:30] it will FTBFS [12:30] oh, libdbus-cil supports 0.33? [12:30] yes [12:30] i am already running it all [12:30] cool [12:31] it's there a special TB meeting coming up about that? [12:31] not "special" [12:31] just voting on letting me upload to main [12:31] and dholbach too [12:31] that's a no-brainer "yes", really [12:31] even elmo thinks so [12:31] heh [12:32] no way elmo wants me anywhere near uploading [12:32] i can hear him screaming across the atlantic. [12:33] haha [12:33] morning [12:33] hi [12:34] Well hey guys thanks for that information...I think I'll stick around [12:34] great [12:34] Hey travis [12:34] there... now is complete :) [12:34] uploading to main is like a dream of mine ;) [12:35] hm ive been using gnome-terminal for 2 days now without screaming [12:35] thats a new record [12:35] I had to switch away [12:35] i hate this thing [12:36] seems that it was causing or exposing a nice X leak [12:36] everytime you resize it, screen is permafucked [12:36] screen as in gnu screen [12:36] yeah, I hate that. [12:36] time to sleep [12:36] bye all [12:36] thanks for help [12:36] np [12:36] bye ivoks [12:36] ctrl+l and reset are useless [12:36] have to detach and reattach [12:36] ya [12:36] seemed to work ok for me [12:36] ^A F [12:37] oh yeah? [12:37] tell screen to resize [12:37] that prints "flow" [12:37] not ^A ^F [12:37] well in that case [12:38] i get the same thing [12:38] I always have to reattach [12:38] yeah [12:38] ill grab urxvt one of these days [12:38] using uxterm at the moment [12:39] X seems to have stopped growing [12:39] that's interesting, since xterm is often cited as a hog [12:39] ;) [12:39] pterm's nice [12:40] crimsun: it works as a temporary measure ;) [12:40] hm thats trippy [12:40] ajmitch: absolutely. I use it occasionally [12:40] Mithrandir: great, seems to work better than uxterm, too :) === ajmitch kills off *xterm [12:57] ajmitch: Did you ever get X working? [12:58] Amaranth: haven't shut it down yet [12:58] heh [12:58] someone on the forums claims to have gotten it working with a little symlink action and a reconfigure, i asked for more details [12:58] /usr/bin/X11 seems to have disappeared, so I'lll wait for an upgrade or two [12:59] wow, yeah [12:59] that's not good [01:00] ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/ /usr/bin/X11/ ? [01:00] just do a reconfigure and let it generate a new config, that should be enough [01:01] ogra: I think the /usr/bin/X11 problem is more than config :) [01:01] nopwe [01:02] these paths have to go, thats the essential part of the X modularization [01:02] http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/XRoadmap [01:03] I thought /usr/bin/X11 was the new path [01:05] nope, X and all apps will be in the default bin path (read /usr/bin/) eventually [03:37] great, I've got a set of debdiffs now but some of them are just too big === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abarbaccia [~mythtv@ool-18b8cf07.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] hey all - do the motu support the multiverse as well? [04:07] yes [04:13] okay - can i sudgest something then? [04:14] ubuntu is becoming increasingly popular for mythtv uses (PVR type thing - im sure you're familiar) - we have an old version of myth and I think we should change it [04:15] url? [04:17] abarbaccia: eh [04:17] abarbaccia: we have the latest version, dude. I think you misunderstand our release proceedures [04:19] can you clarify [04:19] because the latest version is 0.18.1, we have 0.17 [04:19] we make releases every since months [04:19] when that release is out, no updates go in besides secuirty [04:19] okay, well I understand that [04:19] we start the next branch [04:20] so, that branch has newer upstream [04:20] is 0.18.1 in breezy yet? [04:20] 0.18 is for sure [04:20] right now do you know? [04:20] breezy considered harmful [04:20] i said "0.18 is for sure" [04:20] thats right now what I know [04:20] i run breezy on my other box - not too bad [04:20] nope, i'm seeing 0.17 [04:21] it was uploaded [04:21] weeks ago [04:21] let me update my sources [04:21] check the build log [04:21] indeed, 0.18-1 [04:22] wow - ubuntu is my new god(ess) [04:22] 0.18 failed on all archs [04:22] then id expect now that mdz is back [04:23] at some point he will update it anf fix ftbfs [04:23] it's an X thing [04:23] ah right [04:23] /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext [04:24] yeah X is fucked [04:24] i got X to actually run again [04:24] mine wont start [04:24] i had to, my system locked up [04:24] whats that? 0.18 doesnt work as or now [04:24] as of now [04:24] ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/ /usr/bin/X11 + a little xorg.conf editting got it working [04:25] it was trying to use "Generic Mouse" and "Configured Mouse" but I only have the latter [04:25] abarbaccia: Yeah, 0.18 failed to build because we're in the middle of massive changes to X. [04:25] abarbaccia: check back in a month, things will be much better :) [04:26] btw, anyone know why lamont made the buildlogs use .bz2? [04:26] disk space [04:26] those don't open in firefox :/ [04:26] someone is working on that [04:26] alright - sounds good - maybe I can be the one to repackage it if someone teaches me because i've been hanging in here trying to figure it out for a while but no success [04:26] i hope it isn't a patch to firefox, since i run nightlies :) [04:27] I use wget + vi [04:27] vim, sorry [04:27] good call [04:27] you could probably script the whole deal in curl [04:27] or even wget | bzmore [04:28] does piping stright to vim work? [04:28] not really [04:29] actually [04:29] cat foo | vim - [04:31] http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/ [04:31] but beware the big ones ;) [04:31] night all [04:31] Amaranth: actually, they're all .gz as of yesterday or so... not going to switch the old ones to gz though. === lamont goes back to spending time with family === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-082-082-201-232.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb [~chris@schweeb.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] hi === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-57-223.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] hi all. [08:23] hi [08:23] Hi. [08:24] Well, i think it would be good to restart a hardware-monitor upload, so it gets rebuild with the latest breezy gnome libs. [08:25] let's see how it failed [08:26] it didn't fail to build... [08:26] it just doesn't work? [08:48] <\sh> moins [08:48] hi \sh === blvszcz [~bluszcz@jabberpl.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] helo [08:51] <\sh> ah rafal :) [08:51] hi [08:51] <\sh> welcome on board :) [08:51] one of your minions, \sh ? [08:51] hello steph [08:51] <\sh> gentlemen, this is Rafal Zawadzki [08:51] eh sh :) === ajmitch waits patiently for bugzilla [08:52] <\sh> he is admin of jabberpl.org, and dev of pyrss, a rss aggregator jabber component [08:52] <\sh> and he wants to help us :) [08:52] right [08:52] <\sh> blvszcz: short introduction is always nice :) [08:52] :) === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:21] Amaranth: sure, it fails to work. It tells something about OAF-blah. [09:21] and pops up thousand of requesters. [09:22] Amaranth: well, not thousands, but 3 or something such, but i was not able to close one of them since it insisted on coming back. [09:31] Amaranth: i tried rebuilding it, and i believe it even fails to rebuild. [09:32] well, we're in the middle of both an X migration and a C++ migration so things fail to build all the time :) [09:33] Amaranth: sure. [09:33] Amaranth: but it will not by miracle be fixed all alone, i believe. [09:34] no, probably not [09:34] what's the error message? [09:34] I think the C++ migration or the rebuild of the gnome stuff may need someone looking into this and fixing it. [09:34] wait. [09:34] now cpufreq also stopped working :/ === aisipos [~anton@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] /usr/include/gconfmm-2.6/gconfmm/setinterface.h:42: attention : class Gnome::Conf::SetInterface has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor [09:35] preferences-window.cpp: In member function Monitor* PreferencesWindow::run_choose_monitor_window(const Glib::ustring&): [09:35] preferences-window.cpp:593: erreur: no match for operator* in *window [09:35] make[2] : *** [preferences-window.o] Erreur 1 [09:35] make[2] : quittant le rpertoire /home/sven/ubuntu/hardware-monitor/hardware-monitor-1.2/src [09:36] but then i have a couple of gnome libs on hold. [09:36] oh, it's a C++ app [09:36] it is indeed. [09:36] so probably cause by the c++ transition and the libgnome*mm stuff. [09:36] more fun [09:37] ah, and indeed, hardware-monitor was stopping those libgnome*mm packages to install. === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] get those packages and try to rebuild again [09:51] Amaranth: fails in the same way. 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[01:05] <\sh> hmmm...now I'm in the line of fire of the mpaa ;) [01:05] ? [01:06] <\sh> i wrote a text about mpaa complaints [01:06] <\sh> losing revenues cause of bittorrent ;) [01:07] \sh: ? [01:07] what we really need is some kind of study of people who use bt [01:07] \sh: blog? [01:08] vs people who actually go to the movies [01:08] im pretty confident that there isnt a huge overlap [01:08] <\sh> Treenaks: yep...check on the p.u.c [01:08] tseng: well, I do both. [01:08] <\sh> tseng: the problem is different === herzi [~herzi@c220060.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] <\sh> tseng: mpaa complains about a star wars III copy, ripped from a dvd.. [01:09] i mean.. how many people that use bt would go to the movies if there wasnt bt [01:09] tseng: the sales which I am hurting is probably DVD sales, but I wouldn't buy DVDs anyhow. [01:09] i download music and buy a ton of cds [01:09] Mithrandir: there you go [01:09] <\sh> and those rips can only come from ppl who have the possibility to get them directly from the studies [01:09] thats my question [01:09] <\sh> s/studies/studios/ [01:09] tseng: I wouldn't go more often.. same with music.. I won't buy more music if I can't also download [01:09] \sh: id imagine they have to be aware of that part [01:09] I've stopped buying music because of DRM, mainly. [01:10] i wont buy online because of DRM for one [01:10] but more for lossy codecs [01:10] <\sh> tseng: no...they're not seeing this problem...before they blame the "normal" people, they should blame themselves... [01:10] why would i pay the price for the ferrari and get a bmw [01:10] is what selling 128kps music says to me. [01:11] that's not a BMW, it's a pair of socks. [01:11] Mithrandir: drm? I've got one CD with DRM, and I got it free with some concert tickets or something [01:11] well 128 aac is alot better than mp3 [01:11] Mithrandir: I haven't found DRM'ed "Real" CDs here yet [01:11] Treenaks: sacds are drm [01:11] tseng: sacd? [01:11] Treenaks: DRM-ed disks != CDs, as a start. :) [01:11] and there have been several (failed) attempts to drm classic cds [01:12] <\sh> sacds? [01:12] sacd is a 5.1 mix [01:12] + drm [01:12] tseng: do they play in plain/old CD players? [01:12] yes [01:12] as 2.1 [01:12] 2.0 probably [01:12] Treenaks: then, I can't be arsed to check whether the discs I'm buying are DRM-ed or not, since they mostly contain some infinitely small mark somewhere on the case. Possibly. [01:12] they dont play at all in cdroms [01:12] the net result is that I don't buy music. [01:13] <\sh> the problem is, you can't copy them digitally ...but there is always the possibility to copy them analog...and for mp3 thats enough [01:13] tseng: I haven't seen any of those.. might be because I like music that's distributed by small labels :) [01:13] <\sh> same appears to digital tv etc. [01:13] Treenaks: the nine inch nails - downward spiral rerelease was offered in sacd [01:13] but im with you on small labels [01:14] tseng: either that, or my dvd-rom drive just doesn't give a damn about "drm discs" [01:14] anyway, dont buy sacd you cant rip it to mp3 and enjoy it on your pc or portable or anything else [01:14] hooray for fair use [01:14] <\sh> btw...has anybody the possibility to give me access to an amd64 box with a nice updated breezy chroot or pbuilder? [01:15] \sh: sure. Do you have a key signed by a DD? [01:15] <\sh> tseng: for what do i need 5.1 music for tankard music ;) [01:15] <\sh> DD? [01:15] debian devel [01:15] <\sh> no [01:15] any notable sigs? [01:15] <\sh> ogras [01:15] that works [01:15] <\sh> heheh [01:16] sure, sign a mail, include you SSH public key, to: tfheen@err.no, cc maswan@acc.umu.se, include what you want as your user name and state that you'd like access to ravel. [01:17] your, even. [01:17] <\sh> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/739 this bug is quite interessting [01:18] \sh: ask him to use debug-enabled binaries and libraries, and get a backtrace [01:25] <\sh> Mithrandir: send :) === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-082-082-209-087.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN [~KodiaK@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [~bradb@MTL-ppp-146985.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SEBest [~chatzilla@82.101.6.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] dang, and I was hoping for a straightforward fix to Debian#309216 :/ === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb_ [~bradb@MTL-ppp-146985.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] Has anyone created Ubuntu logo laptop stickers yet (like the Debian ones) [03:40] Treenaks, i'd buy them... create some ;) [03:41] DOH [03:43] <\sh> ogra: u need to hit the top three of the most active bug resovlers ,-> [03:44] \sh, hmm, includingthe uploads i do for you ? [03:44] <\sh> ogra: uploads? which packages? ,-) [03:46] \sh, i'm still busy with ivoks... yours are next [03:51] <\sh> new packages or toreview? [03:51] <\sh> new packages u can forget first :) [03:52] <\sh> most of the stuff is c++ + kde [03:52] \sh, everythin thats on the CXXLibrary page and not uploaded yet [03:54] <\sh> ogra: ah the bugs :) [03:54] we need to come to an end with this transition... [03:55] <\sh> ogra: i have really difficulties with one library here....if you have time later on, lets have a look together on it [03:55] <\sh> build-deps conflicts + shitty patches etc. [03:55] \sh, sure, but later... i'm in a meeting currently and afterwards i'll do the "low hanging fruit" upload... === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] s [03:56] <\sh> ogra: no problem === bradb [~bradb@MTL-ppp-146985.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thesaltydog [~yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] res people === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0068.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [~koke@155.210.232.156] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] <\sh> time to go home [04:51] <\sh> bbl [04:52] bye === Danten [~danten@h18n12c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dredg [niall@binky.blacknight.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [~jinty@haydn.debian.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === DanielN [~kodiak@80-218-243-68.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] res [05:55] <\sh> re [05:57] <\sh> ok..renewing chroot [06:12] <\sh> hmmm [06:12] <\sh> I: Validating libconsole [06:12] <\sh> E: Couldn't download libdb1-compat [06:12] <\sh> debootstrap 0.2.45ubuntu35 [06:13] <\sh> for breezy [06:14] debootstrap needs fixed; file a bug [06:14] <\sh> w8 [06:14] <\sh> trying the new one [06:15] debootstrap | 0.2.45ubuntu35 | breezy | source, amd64, hppa, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc [06:15] what new one? [06:16] <\sh> looks like i have to update my hoary first [06:17] <\sh> cause the new one has an unresolved dep on a glibc...w8 [06:17] <\sh> if this is not working, i will do a debootstrap hoary and change apt-sources to breezy afterwars [06:17] <\sh> +d [06:17] <\sh> and file a bug :) === Danten [~danten@h106n3c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] <\sh> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/59781 [06:21] <\sh> wrong chan :( [06:21] :) habs verstanden ^^ [06:21] <\sh> very interessting anyways :) [06:22] crazy guy [06:23] <\sh> hormel? they're only holding the TM for software, namely screen savers [06:23] yeah, i've read it [06:24] Spam [06:25] hehe [06:25] Spam [06:25] loool [06:25] <\sh> ogra: it's a nice one...i think i will order some shirts ;) [06:25] damn, theres a kernel update out ;( [06:26] <\sh> ok debootstrap ubuntu35 is not working at all on hoary [06:26] \sh, and support these idiots ?? [06:26] <\sh> ogra: no :) i will go to the next butcher and ask for shirts with "fruehstuecksfleisch(tm)" [06:27] <\sh> debootstrap ubuntu35 needs libc6 2.3.4-1 [06:27] \sh, thats like patenting "a process to clean your ass with paper after you've been at the toilet" [06:27] LOL [06:27] <\sh> libc6 on hoary: 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 [06:28] and since the US has no prior art law anymore, you even could do it ;) [06:28] <\sh> ogra: i should hurry and get a patent on it ;) [06:28] US law is crazy anyway :) [06:28] yep... you would get very rich..... [06:28] except in arabia [06:29] <\sh> and debootstrap ubuntu34 is broken :( [06:30] why do you use 34 ? [06:30] <\sh> [18:27] <\sh> debootstrap ubuntu35 needs libc6 2.3.4-1 [06:30] <\sh> [18:27] <\sh> libc6 on hoary: 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 [06:30] why do you buld _anything_ on hoary then ? [06:30] <\sh> and i updated right now my hoary after a while ;) [06:31] <\sh> i'm trying to get a chroot again ;) [06:31] we only do packages for breezxy [06:31] <\sh> and those two debootraps are with breezy files [06:31] <\sh> see https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebootstrapChroot === ogra doesnt use chroot... pbuilder is sufficient [06:35] ugh .. i should "overthink" my when package again in this case :/ [06:36] <\sh> i think ogra is right, at least for my laptop ;) after I get my 160gb usb2 hd I will build my chroot again ;) [06:37] <\sh> ogra: schnucki, which bootstrap r u using on hoary for pbuilding breezy? ;) [06:37] <\sh> *whizzle* [06:38] <\sh> istribution is breezy. [06:38] <\sh> Building the build environment [06:38] <\sh> -> running debootstrap [06:38] <\sh> E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/breezy.buildd [06:38] <\sh> pbuilder: debootstrap failed [06:38] <\sh> harhar ;) [06:38] \sh, the one that gets installed on buildtime... i dont need to look at it, pbuilder cares if i run pbuilder update regulary ;) [06:38] <\sh> pbuilder depends on debootstrap ;) and the hoary doesn't know anything about breezy ;) so i need at least debootstrap ubuntu34 ;) [06:38] \sh, build a hoary pbuilder environment and update to brezy then === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0068.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:40] hi [06:41] <\sh> if I have no work at all, i will create work for myself... [06:41] :) [06:42] <\sh> hmm..troll time on #ubuntu [06:57] \sh, against which version of libcorelinux is your patch ? i cant apply it... [06:58] <\sh> 0.4.32-5 [06:59] <\sh> the one from yesterday i think [07:00] hmm [07:01] oh... -p4 works, hehe [07:01] <\sh> hu? [07:01] <\sh> debdiff orig.dsc new.dsc [07:01] <\sh> thats the result ;) [07:01] the path was a bit long... [07:01] didnt recognize it... [07:02] <\sh> well [07:02] <\sh> arkrpg will be my waterloo [07:03] lol, and i shouldnt expect patches to be applied after a --dry-run [07:04] <\sh> I made something wrong? [07:04] nope, just my dumbness :) === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] <\sh> ogra: good to here ,) [07:13] <\sh> but i think i missed one or two conflicts or replaces [07:14] <\sh> I'm not sure [07:16] \sh, nope, its ok [07:16] <\sh> ogra: there r more ;) [07:20] what i'm wondering is why you did put config.sub and .guess in dar [07:20] <\sh> did I [07:20] <\sh> moment [07:21] yep, in the patch... instead of copying them from /usr/share/misc and build-depend on autotools-dev [07:22] <\sh> w8...u will get a new patch...this i didn't see sorry...:( [07:22] np [07:23] just update the bug :) [07:24] <\sh> on it :) [07:25] <\sh> what is the size of an main+universe mirror? [07:29] Source file is a bz2 but bzip2 or gzip not available at /usr/bin/dh_make line 409, line 2. <--what would this mean? [07:29] for i386, no sources, ~14G [07:29] Amaranth: you've not got bzip2 installed? ;-) [07:29] yes [07:29] <\sh> Lathiat: hmmm... [07:29] <\sh> this is easy [07:30] Amaranth, build-depend on it :) [07:30] ogra: dh_make is giving this error [07:30] ogra: dude, that's dh_make === thom hugs his NIH mini-dh-make [07:30] oops [07:30] <\sh> hahaa [07:30] <\sh> ogra: sudo apt-get install interdiff [07:30] well, i have a debian/ dir already, can i just make a foo.orig.tar.bz2 and run with it? [07:31] <\sh> and I have config.sub in my diff [07:31] <\sh> without interdiff it's working correctly [07:31] i mean, i have a debian/ dir i'm going to move in after dh_make [07:31] \sh, oki.... drop interdiff i would say :) [07:31] <\sh> yeah [07:33] <\sh> ogra: you're welcome to dwn the new patch :) [07:33] oki... [07:34] <\sh> but strange behaviour i must say [07:36] err, did you submit it to #11046 ? [07:37] <\sh> yeah [07:37] <\sh> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=2493 [07:38] <\sh> drop your browser cache...it's useless ;) [07:38] hmm... [07:38] i cant.... :( [07:38] <\sh> ?? [07:39] <\sh> should I dcc it to u? [07:39] thom, your dbg package is missing some functionallity ... [07:39] arg, i got a native package [07:41] ogra: ym firefox-dbg? [07:41] yep [07:41] yeah, i know [07:41] just upgrading to theregular package.... [07:41] good luck ;-) [07:42] heh === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:42]