| doko | you may want to enable building the shared lib64gcc1 package in debian/rules.defs ... | 12:05 |
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| doko | until gcc-4.0 builds it | 12:06 |
| jbailey | Yeah. The other thought I had was that if we do gcc-4 first for these then a new gcc-3.4 can be built without overriding CC | 12:10 |
| jbailey | I discovered this by forgetting to override CC when I updated to thge gcc-3.4 from this morning and it still built. | 12:11 |
| doko | upload the 3.4 which builds lib64gcc1, it can be overwritten by 4.0 later | 12:12 |
| jbailey | 'k | 12:12 |
| fabbione | hey guys | 12:45 |
| fabbione | lamont: ping? | 12:51 |
| fabbione | lamont: can you kick back db4.2 on i386? | 12:52 |
| fabbione | there is no reason why it failed at all | 12:52 |
| fabbione | ubuntu5 is exactly as ubuntu4 with one line change in debian/rules that doesn't touch i386 | 12:52 |
| doko | elmo: please move gnat-4.0 to main | 01:01 |
| elmo | doko: please seed it | 01:57 |
| daniels | doko: uhm, xbase-clients doesn't depend on xlibmesa-glu | 03:15 |
| daniels | doko: unless it crept in through ${shlibs:Depends}, which would be annoying | 03:16 |
| daniels | and also shouldn't happen | 03:16 |
| doko | daniels: it did happen, and it is annoying :-) | 03:19 |
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| daniels | elmo: do any of the buildd chroots have xlibmesa-glu-dev installed? if so, can they please not? | 04:02 |
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| fabbione | morning | 06:57 |
| jbailey | Heya Fabio | 07:06 |
| fabbione | hey jeff! | 07:06 |
| fabbione | latest glibc is almost done on sparc :) | 07:09 |
| jbailey | Nice! | 07:09 |
| jbailey | This version decouples the locales dependancy | 07:09 |
| fabbione | AH COOL! | 07:09 |
| jbailey | So if you want to skip glibc for a rev or two after this, you're welcome to without penalty. | 07:09 |
| fabbione | jbailey: you tell me :) | 07:11 |
| fabbione | i can ban it from being auto built | 07:12 |
| fabbione | specially if you plan to do 3/4 uploads with no benefits for sparc | 07:12 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I don't see any reason why not to ban it for most of this week unless I tell you otherwise. It looks like we'll be in good shape to do some biarch/multiarch work, i386/amd64 and ppc/ppc64. | 07:12 |
| jbailey | fabbione: It makes sense to tweak sparc/sparc64 at the same time to look the same. | 07:13 |
| jbailey | But it won't be first.... | 07:13 |
| fabbione | of course :) | 07:14 |
| fabbione | dpkg is still fucked | 07:41 |
| fabbione | dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_GNU_SYSTEM | 07:41 |
| fabbione | linux-gnu | 07:41 |
| fabbione | this break at least kernel-package | 07:42 |
| jbailey | Well, at least it's now reporting what config.{guess,sub} does so there won't be inconsistancy anymore. | 07:43 |
| jbailey | But it took two glibc and two gcc uploads to get it right for us. | 07:43 |
| fabbione | jbailey: so the final decision is linux-gnu? | 07:46 |
| jbailey | I didn't realise there had been any discussion about it. | 07:47 |
| fabbione | well we need to decide and fast | 07:48 |
| fabbione | otherwise i can't upload the kernel | 07:48 |
| fabbione | that is a big blocker for me atm | 07:48 |
| jbailey | dpkg 1.13.2 contains the change pretty explicitely, so it's not an error. | 07:48 |
| jbailey | doko and I each fixed other toolchain bits to cope. | 07:48 |
| jbailey | Although both of us included bits for backwards compatibility. | 07:49 |
| fabbione | well i need to change kernel-package | 07:49 |
| fabbione | and hounestly i can just build-dep on a specific version of it | 07:49 |
| fabbione | + add a versioned depends on dpkg | 07:49 |
| fabbione | that in this case it is allowed due to the mess | 07:50 |
| fabbione | (even if dpkg is essential) | 07:50 |
| svenl | hi jbailey | 07:50 |
| jbailey | ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_GNU_SYSTEM),linux) | 07:51 |
| jbailey | DEB_HOST_GNU_SYSTEM := linux-gnu | 07:51 |
| jbailey | endif | 07:51 |
| fabbione | that would work too | 07:51 |
| fabbione | are you aware of other entries that did change? | 07:52 |
| jbailey | svenl: Heya | 07:52 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I'm just looking at what doko did in gcc | 07:52 |
| jbailey | # configure as linux, not linux-gnu | 07:52 |
| jbailey | TARGET_ALIAS := $(subst linux-gnu,linux,$(TARGET_ALIAS)) | 07:52 |
| svenl | jbailey: i want to give rebuilding glibc/gcc a try again. | 07:52 |
| fabbione | hmm that can be done too | 07:52 |
| jbailey | svenl: I haven't got all the packaging sorted out yet. =( | 07:52 |
| jbailey | svenl: The latest gcc-3.4 in Ubuntu is very close, though. | 07:53 |
| === svenl quite of wonders if there is not some svn/arch/baz/whatever repo with all those changes on it, instead of going begging to jbailey or doko to try stuff out :) | ||
| jbailey | svenl: The source changes aren't the important bits. It's a tiny change to glibc and to gcc. | 07:53 |
| svenl | Ok, i will give it a try. | 07:53 |
| jbailey | The problem is that you need to start from working binaries. | 07:53 |
| === svenl hoping that today's breezy will cure my powerbook :) | ||
| svenl | Yep. | 07:54 |
| svenl | Well, not necessarily, as we have all started in some other way. | 07:54 |
| svenl | I mean, you originally built glibc with a cross compiled biarch gcc, didn't you ? | 07:54 |
| jbailey | I don't know how it was generated, doko gave it to me. | 07:55 |
| svenl | the glibc ? | 07:55 |
| jbailey | I'd assume so, though. | 07:55 |
| svenl | or the gcc ? | 07:55 |
| jbailey | the gcc. | 07:55 |
| svenl | Oh, so you where not the first one in building it. | 07:55 |
| svenl | mmm, no xfonts-utils this morning too. | 07:56 |
| jbailey | No. Before it gets uploaded to Ubuntu, though, I'm tempted to do a clean bootstrap of the whole thing so that I can feel very happy about it. | 07:56 |
| svenl | bah, gnome still gives me a message entitled Xession, and a little lamp, but without further text. | 07:57 |
| svenl | jbailey: :) | 07:57 |
| jbailey | Does recovery mode work for you? | 07:57 |
| svenl | session de secours gnome ? | 07:58 |
| jbailey | Sounds right. | 07:58 |
| svenl | ah, works much better. | 07:58 |
| jbailey | My gdm isn't set to french, only my login sessions. | 07:58 |
| svenl | mmm. | 07:58 |
| svenl | there it is. | 07:58 |
| svenl | all gnome plugin are dead though, i guess because loads of gnome libraries are bogus. | 07:59 |
| svenl | mmm, gnome-panel just crashed. | 07:59 |
| jbailey | What are you doing to your box? =) | 08:00 |
| jbailey | My system has been stable all day.. | 08:00 |
| jbailey | Unless there was some mid-day update. | 08:00 |
| daniels | svenl: i assume the binaries for xfonts-utils are waiting on NEW love | 08:00 |
| svenl | daniels: indeed, there are no xfonts-utils on ppc. | 08:00 |
| svenl | daniels: do you have unofficial ones ? | 08:00 |
| svenl | (it all started because i wanted to compile biarch gcc :/) | 08:01 |
| svenl | oh well, standard session seems to call xsession and not gnome-session. | 08:01 |
| daniels | http://people.ubuntu.com/~daniels/xfonts/xfonts-utils_6.8.2-12_all.deb | 08:02 |
| svenl | daniels: :) | 08:02 |
| svenl | oh, seems better, if i validate the xsession dialogue, i get a working gnome-session. | 08:03 |
| svenl | daniels: do you know where that xsession dialog comes from ? | 08:03 |
| daniels | probably missing fonts, particularly if you have no text | 08:03 |
| jbailey | svenl: I'm uploading to people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/glibc | 08:03 |
| svenl | jbailey: thanks. | 08:03 |
| jbailey | I have a slow DSL uplink and I'm headed to bed. | 08:03 |
| svenl | daniels: your xfonts-utils will help me on that. | 08:04 |
| jbailey | svenl: The most recent gcc-3.4 in the archive is mostly setup for the biarch. You need to change debian/rules to set CC to gcc-3.4 (the one that you got from me before), debian/rules.defs to enable the biarch config, and debian/binary-gcc.mk to fix the dh_link bug (missing $(PF) and missing some \'s. | 08:05 |
| daniels | svenl: maybe. if it doesn't, remember to change your paths from /usr/lib/X11 to /usr/share/X11 in xorg.conf | 08:05 |
| svenl | jbailey: ok, will give a try today. | 08:05 |
| jbailey | Sorry, scratch the CC bit in rules. Current gcc seems to build biarch gcc fine. | 08:05 |
| svenl | daniels: yep, i did that. | 08:05 |
| daniels | cool | 08:05 |
| svenl | daniels: well, actually, they are not in /usr/share/X11 for some reason, so i have them pointing to /usr/X11R6/... | 08:05 |
| jbailey | However with all that, the current package doesn't produce lib64gcc_1.so. That's where I go to before going out for drinks this evening. | 08:06 |
| daniels | errrrrrr | 08:06 |
| daniels | if they're not in /usr/share/X11, then you're not using the packages from xfonts-core | 08:06 |
| daniels | which is xfonts-* 6.8.2-12 | 08:06 |
| jbailey | svenl: Oh yeah, I had to redo my font config this morning, are you on a pegasos box? | 08:06 |
| svenl | daniels: i only have type1 and truetype in shate. | 08:06 |
| svenl | jbailey: nope, powerbook. | 08:06 |
| jbailey | svenl: Ah, okay. | 08:06 |
| daniels | svenl: then you need -75dpi, -100dpi, and others from 6.8.2-12 | 08:06 |
| jbailey | svenl: Otherwise I'd send you my xorg.conf | 08:06 |
| daniels | jbailey: it's not pegasos-specific by any means | 08:06 |
| svenl | daniels: i have a couple of fonts upload waiting for xfonts-utils.. | 08:07 |
| daniels | svenl: um, for ubuntu? | 08:07 |
| svenl | daniels: sure. | 08:07 |
| daniels | main or universe packages? | 08:07 |
| svenl | daniels: all of them, breezy even. | 08:07 |
| daniels | cool | 08:07 |
| jbailey | daniels: Yeah, I wasn't looking for a good solution to the problem, just to offer him a working config if he happened to be on the same system as I. | 08:07 |
| jbailey | =) | 08:07 |
| daniels | send the universe ones to the motu guys at #ubuntu-motu | 08:08 |
| daniels | heh | 08:08 |
| svenl | i did install x-window-system though, which may have been a mistake, as i tried to solve the font dissapeared issue cluelessly. | 08:08 |
| svenl | xfonts-utils -16 is conflicting with xutils -10 :? | 08:10 |
| svenl | :/ even | 08:10 |
| svenl | mmm, forcing it. | 08:12 |
| svenl | ok, that seems to fix it, thanks daniels | 08:13 |
| svenl | daniels: altough the fonts and co are only at -11 | 08:14 |
| daniels | yeah, update-fonts-* was in xutils until about -15 or so | 08:15 |
| daniels | and the binaries are stuck in NEW | 08:15 |
| daniels | but when that gets fixed, we'll have -12 everywhere, and dist-upgrades will pick up what's needed | 08:15 |
| svenl | daniels: do you have unofficial fonts package too ? | 08:16 |
| daniels | not going to upload them, they take about an hour on my DSL | 08:16 |
| svenl | daniels: can i build them from source ? | 08:17 |
| daniels | sure, the .diff.gz is in the repository | 08:18 |
| jbailey | Sleep time, g'n all! | 08:19 |
| daniels | night dude | 08:19 |
| fabbione | night | 08:20 |
| fabbione | infinity: ping? | 08:30 |
| infinity | fabbione : pong. | 08:45 |
| infinity | fabbione : I'm in the middle of insalling Ubuntu on my girlfriend's amd64 machine, so I have something faster to work on. | 08:45 |
| fabbione | infinity: eheh neat... i had a question for you.. just a sec i need to find the reference again | 08:46 |
| infinity | fabbione : Was it a toolchain question, or are you just picking random channels to ping me in? :) | 08:46 |
| fabbione | #$secondary_daemon_threshold = 70; | 08:48 |
| fabbione | random chan :) | 08:48 |
| fabbione | it's a buildd question | 08:48 |
| fabbione | prefer in pvt? | 08:48 |
| infinity | Nah, public is cool. | 08:48 |
| fabbione | what does that option do exactly? | 08:49 |
| infinity | Allows a second daemon to be spawned if the queue is over $x deep, IIRC. | 08:49 |
| fabbione | i understand that if there are more than N pkgs in needs-build, buildd will fork.. but how and with what criteria? | 08:49 |
| fabbione | what's the point of spawning if the chroot is locked by another package? | 08:49 |
| infinity | If you want "whate precisely does it do when it forks?", I'd recommend reading the source. As you may imagine, that's a feature I never turn on. :) | 08:50 |
| fabbione | or there is a way to specify a seconday chroot for the same distro? | 08:50 |
| fabbione | well the code doesn't say much.. | 08:50 |
| fabbione | that's why i was asking :) | 08:50 |
| infinity | Heh. Well, given that all my buildds are really slow single-CPU machines, the very idea of forking more instances is just plain wrong, so I've not examined that codepath. | 08:51 |
| infinity | If it's sharing a chroot, though, that does seem broken, I agree. | 08:51 |
| fabbione | buildd:# New config var $conf::secondary_daemon_threshold: If not at least that | 08:52 |
| fabbione | buildd: if ($total && $conf::secondary_daemon_threshold && | 08:52 |
| fabbione | buildd: $total < $conf::secondary_daemon_threshold) { | 08:52 |
| fabbione | it seems only to add a log entry | 08:52 |
| fabbione | there is no code basically | 08:53 |
| fabbione | or i am misreading it | 08:53 |
| fabbione | ahhhh | 08:54 |
| fabbione | i get it | 08:54 |
| fabbione | if that var is set | 08:54 |
| fabbione | and you run a second instance of buildd | 08:54 |
| fabbione | than it will fork | 08:54 |
| fabbione | but it seems like it will share the same configs and chroots | 08:55 |
| fabbione | it looks bad | 08:55 |
| infinity | Hrm. Yeah. | 08:55 |
| infinity | I wonder who thought that was a good idea? | 08:56 |
| infinity | You'd have sbuilds walking all over each other with package installations/removals... | 08:56 |
| fabbione | probably sbuild has some kind of locking protection? | 08:57 |
| fabbione | otherwise /var/sbuild/src-lock would have no meaning :) | 08:57 |
| fabbione | or whatever is called | 08:57 |
| fabbione | meh debbuild | 08:58 |
| infinity | srcdep-lock? | 08:58 |
| fabbione | sub check_srcdep_conflicts { | 08:59 |
| fabbione | yeah | 08:59 |
| fabbione | it's done at sbuild level the next check | 08:59 |
| fabbione | yeah that one | 08:59 |
| infinity | All srcdep-lock does, IIRC, is lock when sbuild is installing packages. | 09:00 |
| infinity | It doesn't hold any locks during a build. | 09:00 |
| fabbione | well i am not going to turn that on since the code isn't really clear | 09:00 |
| infinity | Or, if it's meant to, that feature doesn't work. :) | 09:00 |
| fabbione | hahha | 09:00 |
| infinity | (Cause the lock dir is pretty much always empty..) | 09:00 |
| fabbione | yeah i was checking right now | 09:01 |
| infinity | I think the w-b suite is littered with unfinished features, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was another. | 09:01 |
| fabbione | yeah i can see that | 09:01 |
| infinity | Oh, great. GRUB blew up the Windows boot sector, and it can't chainload Windows properly. Yay, I lose! | 09:10 |
| === infinity tries to remember how to recover WinNT bootsectors without the WinNT install CD... | ||
| fabbione | infinity: eh? you kidding.... | 09:10 |
| fabbione | it did never happen here | 09:10 |
| infinity | Oh, I told it to eat the Windows boot sector. But I didn't tell it to suck at loading Windows, that part it's done on its own. | 09:12 |
| fabbione | infinity: have fun :) | 09:12 |
| fabbione | i have no idea on how to recover a wincrap boot sec | 09:12 |
| infinity | Well, usually, with the install CD. Which I don't have a copy of here. | 09:14 |
| === infinity ponders. | ||
| fabbione | switch the entire box to linux :) | 09:27 |
| fabbione | and kill winnt | 09:27 |
| fabbione | and i mean.. NT?? | 09:27 |
| fabbione | put her on XP at least | 09:27 |
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| daniels | infinity: fdisk /mbr? | 10:19 |
| daniels | infinity: you trashed zofia's xp mbr, didn't you? | 10:19 |
| infinity | fabbione : It is XP... Which is NT 5.1. | 10:21 |
| infinity | daniels : Maybe. | 10:21 |
| infinity | daniels : Downloading an install CD right now to fix it. :) | 10:21 |
| svenl | doko_: you there ? | 10:21 |
| infinity | (fdisk /mbr is a DOS thing, and also would only work if I had a floppy drive) | 10:21 |
| \sh | hmmm | 10:27 |
| svenl | hi sh | 10:27 |
| svenl | hi \sh | 10:27 |
| \sh | what is the replacement for xlibmesa-gl-dev | 10:27 |
| svenl | even | 10:27 |
| \sh | g'morning svenl :) | 10:27 |
| \sh | found it :) | 10:28 |
| svenl | \sh: what was it ? | 10:28 |
| daniels | \sh: xlibmesa-gl-dev is still xlibmesa-gl-dev | 10:29 |
| svenl | daniels: don like to install on ppc though, since libglu are not in sync. | 10:30 |
| \sh | daniels: i have here build-deps on libglu-dev-xorg (because of libstdc++) xlibmesa-* wasn't compiled against libstdc++6 | 10:31 |
| daniels | svenl: huh? | 10:32 |
| daniels | \sh: xlibmesa-glu-dev wasn't built against libstdc++6; xlibmesa-gl-dev is not C++ | 10:32 |
| daniels | libglu1-xorg and libglu-dev-xorg were built against libstdc++6, unless there's been a terrible, terrible compiler mishap | 10:33 |
| daniels | (on the buildds) | 10:34 |
| svenl | daniels: well, my error, it needs : xlibmesa-dev libglu-dev-xorg libglu1-xorg | 10:34 |
| svenl | these are the ones, but they will uninstall half my system for now, including gdm and such stuff. | 10:34 |
| svenl | well, half my system is exagerated. | 10:34 |
| daniels | seems to work alright for me | 10:34 |
| svenl | daniels: 2$ sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-dev libglu-dev-xorg libglu1-xorg | 10:35 |
| svenl | Les paquets suivants seront ENLEVS: | 10:35 |
| svenl | freeglut3 gdm gksu gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools hwdb-client libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-0 | 10:35 |
| svenl | libgle3 libglut3 python-opengl python2.4-opengl rss-glx xbase-clients xlibmesa-glu xlibmesa-glu-dev xprint xprint-common | 10:35 |
| svenl | xprt xscreensaver-gl | 10:35 |
| \sh | daniels: right..but if xlibmesa-glu-dev is now libglu1-dev-xorg, is there also a name change in xlibmesa-gl? | 10:35 |
| svenl | ENLEVE -> REMOVED, obviously. | 10:35 |
| daniels | enlevs -> removed? | 10:35 |
| daniels | right | 10:35 |
| daniels | \sh: no. | 10:35 |
| \sh | chaos ;) | 10:36 |
| daniels | well, versioned provides just don't work | 10:38 |
| daniels | so I want to avoid changing the package name unless I have to | 10:38 |
| daniels | bbl | 10:38 |
| daniels | dinnertime | 10:38 |
| \sh | hmmm | 11:05 |
| \sh | libglu-dev-xorg: Depends: libglu1-xorg (= 6.8.2-16), xlibmesa-gl-dev | libgl-dev, libstdc++5-3.3-dev | libstdc++-dev, libc6-dev | libc-dev | 11:05 |
| svenl | \sh: welcome to breezy :) | 11:09 |
| \sh | svenl: well... | 11:10 |
| \sh | it doesn't have to do with breezy | 11:10 |
| \sh | because | 11:10 |
| \sh | libglu1-xorg: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-7), libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.0-7), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), xlibmesa-gl | libgl1 | 11:11 |
| \sh | ;) | 11:11 |
| fabbione | so what is that for??????? | 11:11 |
| svenl | \sh: bah. | 11:11 |
| \sh | fabbione: the dependencies for binary package and dev package are not fitting together :( and I need this stuff to fix a package here | 11:13 |
| fabbione | \sh: well but that's for breezy or not? | 11:13 |
| \sh | fabbione: yepp | 11:17 |
| \sh | think i need a cup of coffee and a cigarette | 11:17 |
| doko | morning all | 11:21 |
| fabbione | hi doko | 11:22 |
| doko | is daniels coming back? | 11:23 |
| svenl | hi doko. | 11:23 |
| fabbione | doko: he went for dinner.. so i guess yes | 11:23 |
| svenl | doko: maybe. | 11:23 |
| svenl | doko: what is the latest version of your biarch gcc .debs you have available ? | 11:24 |
| doko | svenl: the same as before, let jbailey sort it out this week, then it should be ready | 11:25 |
| svenl | doko: i wanted to build it myself today. | 11:26 |
| elmo | is it known locales' dep is SNAFU on amd64? | 11:27 |
| svenl | oh well. | 11:28 |
| fabbione | elmo: to what level of SNAFU? | 11:29 |
| fabbione | because jb did relax the locales depends: | 11:29 |
| fabbione | to something like >= ${Source-Ver} | 11:29 |
| elmo | uninstallable SNAFU | 11:30 |
| fabbione | instead of = | 11:30 |
| elmo | katie@jackass:~$ dpkg -I pool/main/g/glibc/locales_2.3.5-1ubuntu3_all.deb | grep Depends | 11:31 |
| elmo | Depends: glibc-2.3.5-0ubuntu1, debconf (>= 0.2.26) | 11:31 |
| elmo | looks fairly = to me | 11:31 |
| Kamion | I think that's meant to be provided by everything with the same locale API or similar | 11:31 |
| Kamion | amd64 just hasn't built the new glibc yet | 11:32 |
| Kamion | $ dpkg -f libc6_2.3.5-1ubuntu3_i386.deb Provides | 11:32 |
| Kamion | glibc-2.3.5-0ubuntu1 | 11:32 |
| elmo | why do they have a virtual package whose version number is divorced from the source version number? that's just whack | 11:33 |
| elmo | the glibc build is just stalled on amd64 | 11:34 |
| Kamion | same idea as shlibdeps, just done with a virtual package because the package name is different on different architectures | 11:34 |
| Kamion | well, not quite the same as shlibdeps | 11:34 |
| elmo | root 31196 0.0 0.0 9132 696 ? SN May22 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/sudo perl -e kill( -15, 17624 ) | 11:34 |
| daniels | sudo perl -e kill? | 11:35 |
| fabbione | omg | 11:35 |
| \sh | argl | 11:49 |
| \sh | daniels is working on the xorg stuff right? | 11:49 |
| Riddell | \sh: kdebindings and base are in, we could probably try for pyqt pykde? | 11:56 |
| \sh | Riddell: no | 11:56 |
| \sh | the deps are not as they should | 11:56 |
| Riddell | what's needed? | 11:57 |
| \sh | xlibmesa-glu is replaced by libglu-xorg and libglu-dev-xorg...but the deps for libglu-dev-xorg are set against libstdc++5-3.3 and not like the bin package libglu1-xorg against libstdc++6-4.0 | 11:58 |
| doko | \sh: that shouldn't hurt, libstdc++-dev already is installed on the buildd's. | 12:00 |
| \sh | doko: but not on my update ;) | 12:02 |
| \sh | lunch | 12:02 |
| doko | \sh, install build-essential first | 12:03 |
| elmo | doko: what's the current state of play with the freeze? | 12:06 |
| elmo | did lamont unfreeze c++ apps? | 12:06 |
| doko | elmo: as I did write on IRC yesterday, lamont wasn't online yesterday | 12:08 |
| elmo | meh | 12:09 |
| elmo | can _I_ unfreeze them? | 12:09 |
| doko | by unfreeze you mean, put the new cxxapps.txt in effect? | 12:09 |
| doko | elmo: yes, if unfreeze is limited to c++ apps in main | 12:11 |
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| elmo | doko: cxxapps.txt still has main apps? | 12:18 |
| doko | yes, those depending on mozilla-dev | 12:19 |
| doko | hmm, yes, I can remove the KDE things as well | 12:19 |
| doko | elmo: ok, done | 12:20 |
| doko | and I removed aptitude from the cxxapps in universe, so mvo can play the apt upgrade game | 12:21 |
| mvo | doko: aptitude is main | 12:22 |
| doko | mvo: even better | 12:23 |
| doko | never used it ... | 12:23 |
| Kamion | the installer kind of does ;) | 12:24 |
| mvo | Kamion: is it only used for the installation of the tasks? or for more stuff? | 12:25 |
| Kamion | mvo: for task installation, and for fallback if that fails | 12:25 |
| mvo | thanks | 12:26 |
| Riddell | so the build daemons are now going to go nuts? | 12:32 |
| \sh | doko: it's installed :) | 01:00 |
| \sh | so lunchtime is over :) | 01:00 |
| doko | elmo: is the cxxapps.txt updated on the buildd's? if yes, I could at least upload all packages, for which we have ubuntuN versions | 01:12 |
| elmo | doko: no, I want to talk to mdz about buildd stuff | 01:14 |
| elmo | + first | 01:14 |
| elmo | btw, you might as well upload apps, they just won't get built yet | 01:14 |
| elmo | better to have them ready to build than not.. | 01:25 |
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| doko_ | hmm, daily disconnect ... | 01:31 |
| doko_ | elmo: ok, assume a upload a -buildN, which you then sync with a newer version. will the buildd build both versions, if both are available when the buildd restarts building the apps, or will it skip the older one? | 01:32 |
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| elmo | eh | 01:33 |
| elmo | doko: for any given arch, only one version of a package is in a suite at any one time | 01:33 |
| doko | elmo: do you sync with the new cxxapps.txt today? then I'll wait with the upload of the -buildN packages until after the sync | 01:35 |
| elmo | what about cxxlibs? is that up-to-date? | 01:36 |
| elmo | heh, that updated a whole 3 apps | 01:38 |
| doko | elmo: cxxlibs updated. yes, we don't have that many C++ stuff in main, and most is modified anyway. which are the three apps? | 01:42 |
| elmo | uh, dunno, check breezy-changes? | 01:42 |
| elmo | doxygen, lftp and something | 01:42 |
| doko | knew about doxygen, still waiting for the mails | 01:44 |
| elmo | sorry, it got mixed in with a bunch of your uploads, and it's now hard for me to tell what's what | 01:44 |
| doko | ok, uploading the buildN's as well, so one will get rejected | 01:45 |
| elmo | that's fine | 01:45 |
| elmo | how's the universe transition being handled, given the uploads are blocked on certain keys? | 01:51 |
| elmo | oh, we're not anymore, nm me | 01:51 |
| svenl | checking whether the C compiler works... configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. | 01:53 |
| svenl | Mmm, i guess something failed badly here :) | 01:53 |
| doko | the universe part of cxxlibs.txt and cxxapps.txt shouldn't be synced, but libs should be built. | 01:54 |
| doko | elmo, mvo: I made a mistake: uploaded synaptic, would probably be better, if this one does not enter the archive. sorry for that one | 01:57 |
| svenl | doko: the above test, does it check that the result from the compilation run is actually runnable, right ? | 01:58 |
| elmo | that's all right, the sync will overwrite it? | 01:58 |
| svenl | doko: and this is the place where it fails on 3 bit ? | 01:58 |
| svenl | 32bit even. | 01:58 |
| doko | elmo, mvo: aptitude as well | 02:00 |
| lamont | morning | 02:10 |
| doko | hi lamont | 02:11 |
| lamont | still need cxxapps unblocked on the buildds? | 02:11 |
| doko | glibc did timeout in some network tests on amd64 | 02:11 |
| lamont | _again_. | 02:11 |
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| lamont | redland-bindings is ftbfs for me... no swig. Wonder if that's everywhere... | 02:12 |
| elmo | I already gave it back | 02:12 |
| doko | lamont: yes, but I updated cxxlibs.txt and cxxapps.txt | 02:12 |
| lamont | elmo: coolness | 02:12 |
| elmo | lamont: but it had hung pretty spectacularly, the 'kill -TERM' invocation was hung too | 02:12 |
| lamont | neato | 02:12 |
| doko | elmo wanted to talk with mdz about the buildd's first | 02:13 |
| elmo | no, that's fine, if lamont's here, go for it | 02:13 |
| lamont | doko: so another round of 'replace the list we have with what's currently in cxxapps'? | 02:16 |
| doko | lamont: yes please, basically remove all of main, keep all of universe. thom just told me that he's preparing a mozilla upload, so I remove the one's depending on that as well. | 02:18 |
| doko | lamont: done | 02:19 |
| lamont | chinstrap:~doko/cxxapps.txt, yes? | 02:22 |
| doko | correct | 02:23 |
| doko | lamont, fabbione: but keep the installed one on the sparc and hppa buildd | 02:23 |
| doko | maybe not necessary for sparc, it's building binutils, glibc, gcc-* this week anyway ;) | 02:24 |
| jbailey | lamont: Hey, not my fault the kernel hangs in the middle of a syscall. =( | 02:24 |
| jbailey | lamont: I've gone over the test-ifaddrs code, as has vorlon - it's a quite simple bit of code. Following it with strace, it goes in to ask a question and just never seems to come back. | 02:26 |
| elmo | it seemed stuck in recvmsg, does that sound right? | 02:26 |
| doko | lamont: perl on i386 did fail in network test ... interesting, dist-upgrade now wants to remove build-essential | 02:27 |
| jbailey | When I traced it I think it was in getgid or something like that, but I don't have notes handy. | 02:27 |
| elmo | ok | 02:27 |
| jbailey | I'm surprised to see it triggered twice in a row on amd64, though. | 02:28 |
| jbailey | Usually on Debian it would be months between uploads where it would die. | 02:28 |
| lamont | doko: fixed perl | 02:28 |
| lamont | doko: it kinda assumes that 'localhost' resolves, which isn't necessarily true, but we decided it should.... | 02:28 |
| lamont | and terranova was down when I upgraded all the chroots by copying in /etc/hosts.... | 02:29 |
| elmo | lamont: how's yellow been? | 02:29 |
| jbailey | elmo: FWIW, I loosened the locales dependancy with this upload, so hopefully if there's glibc problems on an arch in the future it won't bring the whole thing to a grinding halt. | 02:30 |
| doko | jbailey: finally ... :) | 02:31 |
| elmo | jbailey: yay, thanks | 02:32 |
| elmo | tho, to be honest, I don't mind grinding halt in ubuntu | 02:32 |
| elmo | our glibc really shouldn't be out of sync | 02:32 |
| elmo | at least for release arches | 02:32 |
| jbailey | Right. It's one of those changes that I hope I can convince gotom to pick up that he might not be willing to. | 02:34 |
| doko | jbailey: so we won't have a chance to build the compilers, because one of the architectures will be broken at any time ;) | 02:37 |
| lamont | elmo: seems to be doing OK | 02:38 |
| elmo | lamont: ok | 02:38 |
| lamont | doko: I'll have the changes made sometime in the next 20-40 minutes | 02:38 |
| jbailey | doko: Nah, elmo said he doesn't mind breakage. =) | 02:38 |
| jbailey | Anywho running off to spend the morning with my belle. | 02:39 |
| doko | jbailey: well, it may be interesting for sparc and hppa | 02:39 |
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| lamont | doko: ia64 is ready for this change too? | 03:04 |
| doko | lamont: yes | 03:06 |
| lamont | ok. chroot-upgrade/buildd restart now in progress | 03:09 |
| lamont | cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-fwritable-strings" | 03:09 |
| lamont | is there a comparable option in 4.0? | 03:09 |
| doko | lamont: no | 03:10 |
| lamont | unicode.c:19:26: error: linux/string.h: No such file or directory | 03:10 |
| lamont | grumble | 03:10 |
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| lamont | cool. dies on i386 too. /me bugzillas | 03:13 |
| Kamion | will take some porting if it expects writable strings, probably ... | 03:15 |
| lamont | Kamion: yeah. | 03:19 |
| lamont | the i386-too was hfsplus. the writable strings is palo (which no one but hppa cares about) | 03:19 |
| chmj | lamont: powerpc-given-back.gz what does that mean on the build logs ? | 04:07 |
| lamont | it means that the buildd decided it shouldn't even try, and gave it back | 04:08 |
| lamont | and inside the log should be an error that gives a hint... | 04:08 |
| lamont | is the timestamp from somewhere around :03-08 or :33-38? | 04:08 |
| doko | jbailey: groff: *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0805a678 *** | 04:19 |
| lamont | bad groff | 04:19 |
| doko | tetex-bin is another xorg victim | 04:21 |
| daniels | tetex? people still use that crap? | 04:21 |
| Kamion | "glibc detected"? wtf? | 04:22 |
| Kamion | doko: I'll have a poke at groff | 04:22 |
| doko | Kamion: thanks | 04:22 |
| \sh | who uploaded sip4? | 04:43 |
| Kamion | \sh: breezy-changes says doko | 04:44 |
| \sh | yes saw it | 04:44 |
| \sh | i'm wandering if the build-deps are correct against xfree | 04:45 |
| \sh | and not against xorg | 04:45 |
| doko | \sh: unmodified upload, probably needs to be corrected | 04:47 |
| \sh | doko: ah ok :) | 04:47 |
| lamont | Kamion: glibc (more specifically, malloc, et. al.) do corruption checking now. most cool, except that it turns heisenbugs into hard failures. | 05:02 |
| lamont | daniels: you don't even want to know how many packages (build-)?depend tetex-bin, directly or indirectly. | 05:03 |
| daniels | lamont: heavy sarcasm detected | 05:04 |
| lamont | it's kinda early on in the bootstrapping pain | 05:05 |
| doko | lamont: fix uploaded | 05:06 |
| doko | tetex-bin | 05:06 |
| lamont | apt-cache showsrc gcc-4.0 | 05:06 |
| lamont | Build-Depends: ... tetex-bin ... | 05:06 |
| doko | cursing the xorg reorganisation again | 05:06 |
| lamont | daniels: so that'd be, um, everybody | 05:06 |
| daniels | lamont: yeah :) 'twas joking | 05:07 |
| lamont | heh | 05:07 |
| Kamion | lamont: yeah, it was a double fclose() in grn - fixing | 05:07 |
| Kamion | lamont: I misread "glibc detected <stuff>" as "I detected glibc" | 05:08 |
| lamont | lol | 05:08 |
| lamont | yoda it is not. | 05:08 |
| doko | we're nearing the point where the number of needed xorg fixes exceeds the number of needed C++ fixes ;-) | 05:08 |
| === lamont ^5s doko | ||
| daniels | yeah, and glibc's double-free stuff is fucking us, too :P | 05:09 |
| daniels | exposing previously-unseen breakage | 05:09 |
| lamont | daniels: nah - it's finding things. | 05:09 |
| lamont | the X directory structure was only broken for you pedants. | 05:10 |
| daniels | eh, it only worked by accident | 05:10 |
| lamont | dude - that's all of X11 :) | 05:12 |
| lamont | I mean when the standard changes everytime some student at MIT sneezes and gets code all over the desk... :-) | 05:12 |
| elmo | doko: dude, did you not fix bison? | 05:13 |
| doko | ? | 05:14 |
| elmo | I just created a breezy chroot and got file overwrite errors | 05:15 |
| doko | looking at it | 05:17 |
| daniels | lamont: r7 is all about fixing the 'by accident' bit | 05:23 |
| lamont | daniels: so r7 is just continuing in the tradition of 'tightening the spec', like gcc-3.x and 4.x have? | 05:27 |
| daniels | lamont: that's the one! | 05:28 |
| lamont | ah, well then, it must be a good thing... | 05:28 |
| daniels | indeed | 05:28 |
| daniels | 'xorg, now with 97% more API reinterpretation!' | 05:28 |
| daniels | the current 'spec' is largely defined by myself and ajax's definition of good taste | 05:28 |
| lamont | as long as it's not being done by some 19 year old radical who's still wet behind the ears..... | 05:29 |
| lamont | :-) | 05:29 |
| === lamont should stop trolling | ||
| daniels | hey, the average age of us two is about 20.5 | 05:30 |
| daniels | that's old, right? :) | 05:31 |
| === lamont phears. | ||
| lamont | daniels: add me in ad the average goes to 27.3 | 05:31 |
| lamont | s/ad/and/ | 05:31 |
| lamont | yesterday, my daughter reminded me of the apache vs evolution debate | 05:32 |
| daniels | apache vs evolution? | 05:32 |
| lamont | yeah - "apache is so much cooler than evolution, you should use that instead." | 05:32 |
| daniels | er | 05:32 |
| lamont | it was something I threatened to troll #ubuntu with one day | 05:33 |
| lamont | (commented in #u-devel, and still got a few takers...) | 05:33 |
| daniels | haha, brilliant :) | 05:34 |
| daniels | there's a comment to be made about age not having dulled your wit somewhere ;) | 05:34 |
| lamont | the funnest part was the number of fully clueful people who got involved in the discussion just to keep it going. | 05:34 |
| === lamont can't remember what major deadline it was the stress-relief for. | ||
| daniels | heh | 05:36 |
| daniels | lamont: feb 10th, so must've been hoary | 05:38 |
| daniels | 20:45 * lamont considers draging the "which is better, evolution or apache" debate over to this channel, decides not. | 05:38 |
| lamont | was it that recent? | 05:40 |
| doko | lamont: how do you like your vacations? | 05:40 |
| lamont | doko: lengthy :-) | 05:41 |
| === lamont is working today, vacation the rest of the wekek | ||
| lamont | Feb 10 10:49:58 <lamont_r> maybe I should start a thread on users on why evolution is better than apache | 05:41 |
| lamont | in another chanel | 05:41 |
| lamont | s/another/a different/ | 05:42 |
| daniels | lamont: ahr | 05:42 |
| daniels | except the debate in there wasn't exactly long or interesting :P | 05:42 |
| doko | lamont: could you remove the dep-wait for xerces2[56] | 05:42 |
| lamont | daniels: no, but it does give the context for the idea.... | 05:43 |
| lamont | doko: sure | 05:43 |
| daniels | lamont: right | 05:43 |
| doko | nice, tetex-bin on ia64 | 06:00 |
| doko | {standard input}: Assembler messages: | 06:00 |
| doko | {standard input}:15316: Error: Use of p0 is not valid in this context | 06:00 |
| doko | make[4] : *** [writet1.o] Error 1 | 06:00 |
| daniels | doko: there you go, now you have something to bitch about other than xorg :P | 06:01 |
| fabbione | ahha | 06:01 |
| fabbione | ./Redland_wrap.c:13:20: error: Python.h: No such file or directory | 06:02 |
| fabbione | neat! | 06:02 |
| fabbione | only 200K of error from a missing include :) | 06:02 |
| doko | buy a bigger disk :P | 06:03 |
| fabbione | that was not the point :) | 06:03 |
| fabbione | Alloc PE / Size 123655 / 483.03 GB | 06:03 |
| fabbione | Free PE / Size 33712 / 131.69 GB | 06:03 |
| fabbione | i have enough space :) | 06:03 |
| fabbione | at least failed for everybody :) | 06:04 |
| Kamion | elmo: please sync groff 1.18.1.1-8 from incoming, should fix that build failure | 06:04 |
| elmo | Kamion: done | 06:06 |
| Kamion | ta | 06:08 |
| \sh | fabbione: send me some GB ;) | 06:09 |
| doko | elmo: please could update the halley/breezy chroot and install tetex-bin's build deps? | 06:10 |
| fabbione | elmo: mind to upgrade breezy and breezy-i386 on concordia and breezy on davis with the new dpkg? (it has been unbanned/built) | 06:13 |
| elmo | doko: done | 06:14 |
| fabbione | elmo: well if you can do halley too it would be lovely :) | 06:14 |
| fabbione | otherwise i will start bouncing ia64 to somebody else... and have an excuse for that :P | 06:15 |
| elmo | halley's just been done | 06:15 |
| fabbione | cool | 06:15 |
| elmo | concordia/native done | 06:16 |
| fabbione | thanks | 06:17 |
| elmo | concordia/386 done | 06:17 |
| fabbione | rocking! | 06:17 |
| doko | gv is another xorg victim, fixing ... | 06:24 |
| doko | elmo: please could you install g++-3.4 on halley:breezy? | 06:27 |
| fabbione | dpkg-architecture: warning: Unknown gcc system type amd64-linux, falling back to default (native compilation) | 06:28 |
| fabbione | this is on concordia breezy chroot... | 06:28 |
| doko | fabbione: yes filed a dpkg bug | 06:30 |
| fabbione | elmo: while at it, can you also install linux-source-2.6.12 build-deps + xmlto ? | 06:30 |
| fabbione | (halley/breezy chroot) | 06:30 |
| fabbione | doko: it's only amd64 fucked? | 06:30 |
| doko | yes | 06:31 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:32 |
| fabbione | it's only a warning tho | 06:32 |
| elmo | fabbione: done | 06:35 |
| fabbione | elmo: thanks you rock! | 06:35 |
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| fabbione | elmo: can you also do breezy on davis please? i think it's the last one missing | 06:39 |
| elmo | fabbione: done | 06:51 |
| fabbione | elmo: cheers :) | 06:51 |
| doko | halley: | 06:53 |
| doko | doko@halley:~$ w | 06:53 |
| doko | 17:53:16 up 9 days, 7:52, 2 users, load average: 6.17, 5.34, 3.72 | 06:53 |
| doko | USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT | 06:53 |
| doko | doko pts/0 82.211.81.135 17:05 0.00s 0.02s 0.01s w | 06:53 |
| doko | w(4130): unaligned access to 0x60000fffffffb5fc, ip=0x2000000000048040 | 06:53 |
| doko | w(4130): unaligned access to 0x60000fffffffb5fc, ip=0x2000000000048060 | 06:53 |
| doko | w(4130): unaligned access to 0x60000fffffffb5fc, ip=0x2000000000048040 | 06:53 |
| doko | w(4130): unaligned access to 0x60000fffffffb5fc, ip=0x2000000000048060 | 06:53 |
| === daniels giggles. | ||
| doko | elmo: please could you install g++-3.4 on halley:breezy? | 06:58 |
| elmo | doko: done | 07:01 |
| doko | thanks | 07:03 |
| lamont | daniels: workrave needs your love | 07:10 |
| daniels | lamont: file a bug, I'm going to sleep after I upload all this shit | 07:10 |
| lamont | right | 07:10 |
| lamont | daniels: 11117 assigned to you | 07:12 |
| daniels | let's see how xorg -17 ftbfses | 07:12 |
| lamont | -17 is uploaded? | 07:12 |
| daniels | in the process of doing so | 07:13 |
| lamont | daniels: in /etc/sbuild.conf, do these need to change, too??? | 07:14 |
| lamont | "xlibs-dev" => [qw(/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so)] | 07:14 |
| lamont | "libgl-dev" => "xlibmesa-gl-dev", | 07:14 |
| daniels | just uploaded all the fun build-deps | 07:14 |
| lamont | :-) | 07:14 |
| daniels | lamont: aieeeeeee | 07:14 |
| elmo | doko: btw, given we're sticking with linux-gnu, we should probably make binutils and gcc match? | 07:14 |
| lamont | rather, what do they need to change to? | 07:14 |
| elmo | lamont: trash them all | 07:14 |
| lamont | woot | 07:14 |
| elmo | that's useless these days | 07:14 |
| daniels | lamont: libX11.* -> libx11-dev, libICE.* -> libice-dev, libXp -> libxp-dev (which is being removed anyway) | 07:14 |
| lamont | well, they're completely gone, now. :0)( | 07:15 |
| doko | elmo: yes, I just want Keybuk change _GNU_TYPE to i486-linux-gnu first | 07:15 |
| daniels | word | 07:15 |
| doko | elmo: should ask jbailey and fabbione first, if that would cause problems with glibc and the kernel | 07:16 |
| elmo | yeah, makes sense | 07:17 |
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| cartman | aspell-en should depend on libaspell15c2 | 07:20 |
| fabbione | i have no problems on whatever convention you want to use | 07:20 |
| cartman | this prevents aspell from upgrading | 07:20 |
| fabbione | just tell me your decision so that i can upload a fixed kernel-package | 07:21 |
| doko | cartman: ok, taking care of it | 07:23 |
| cartman | doko: thank you | 07:24 |
| cartman | daniels: ping? | 07:25 |
| daniels | cartman: pong | 07:25 |
| cartman | daniels: xbase-clients still depends on xlibmesa-glu in case you missed it | 07:26 |
| daniels | i certainly didn't miss it | 07:26 |
| cartman | daniels: cool ok :) | 07:26 |
| daniels | the good news: i know what the problem is | 07:26 |
| daniels | the bad news: i might have to wait until libglu1-xorg -17 enters the archive, then upload -18, before it's fixed | 07:27 |
| cartman | daniels: alright as far as you are aware, its ok | 07:27 |
| doko | daniels: could you put -18 on chinstrap, so somebody else can upload it, while you're sleeping? | 07:32 |
| daniels | doko: no | 07:33 |
| daniels | i've just uploaded -18 *now*, but that won't fix it (see #u-d) | 07:34 |
| daniels | if it's that desperately important that you need to upload your own -19, you can do that | 07:34 |
| daniels | but my next upload won't be for about aonther day or so | 07:34 |
| daniels | when I remove more modules, fix the keyboard and configuration bugs, and yeah | 07:34 |
| doko | daniels: is a simple re-upload supposed to fix the xbase-clients dependency on xlibmesa-glu? | 07:41 |
| doko | doko@concordia:~ $ w | 07:48 |
| doko | 18:48:22 up 9 days, 9:11, 3 users, load average: 108.56, 108.98, 100.87 | 07:48 |
| doko | USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT | 07:48 |
| doko | fabbione pts/0 82.211.81.135 17:24 20:52 21.45s 0.00s /bin/sh /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackag | 07:48 |
| doko | fabbione pts/2 82.211.81.135 17:24 20:50 12.69s 0.00s /bin/sh /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackag | 07:48 |
| fabbione | doko: yeah.. | 07:49 |
| fabbione | it's faster with -j100 :) | 07:49 |
| fabbione | doko: concordia can easily take up to -j500 | 07:49 |
| doko | it's nice, if it's 2% faster for you, but for me, it's 500% slower :-( | 07:50 |
| fabbione | doko: it's almost finished :) | 07:50 |
| fabbione | and it's not just 2% faster :) | 07:50 |
| fabbione | it's like a lot faster | 07:50 |
| fabbione | elmo: please upgrade condordia to a 128 CPU's and 64Tera of RAM | 07:51 |
| doko | :) | 07:51 |
| doko | we buy low profile racks only ... | 07:52 |
| cartman | humpf | 08:09 |
| cartman | apt still not compiled against gcc4 | 08:10 |
| elmo | WTF?! | 08:20 |
| elmo | why is db1-compat back? :P | 08:20 |
| elmo | err, and why is none of the X stuff turning up | 08:22 |
| doko | NEW? | 08:23 |
| elmo | hmm, some of the binaries, are still in queue/accepted, maybe that's it | 08:26 |
| elmo | but seriously, did someone restore the db1-compat dpeends on purpose? | 08:26 |
| elmo | oh, linux-gnu breakage, meh | 08:26 |
| fabbione | i remember Kamion mumbling about it | 08:26 |
| daniels | doko: xbase-clients MUST be built with libglu1-xorg >= 6.8.2-18 for the deps to be fixed | 08:27 |
| daniels | else it's a waste of an upload | 08:27 |
| doko | daniels: ok, will look at it tonight. are you still awake? | 08:28 |
| fabbione | doko: a -j50 has basically done... | 08:28 |
| fabbione | the other has almost finished | 08:28 |
| daniels | doko: can't sleep | 08:28 |
| doko | ;) | 08:28 |
| fabbione | daniels: what will happen to arches that will not build -18 right away? can they still catch up building xorg -19 ? | 08:29 |
| daniels | fabbione: sure, but xbase-clients will still be uninstallable | 08:32 |
| fabbione | daniels: who cares :) | 08:33 |
| doko | fabbione: maybe you as well, because kdelibs4c2 depends on it :-( | 08:34 |
| cartman | kdebase should too | 08:34 |
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| Kamion | fabbione: I did? | 08:39 |
| Kamion | fabbione: I'm entirely happy for libdb1-compat to go away - it was always intended to, post-sarge | 08:39 |
| elmo | well, it's back, I suspect it only disappeared Thanks To Keybuk(tm) | 08:40 |
| elmo | we show need "keybuk broke my dpkg-architecture" t-shirts | 08:41 |
| elmo | s/how/so/ | 08:41 |
| daniels | can someone please explain to me in very small terms why kdelibs4c2 depends on xbase-clients? | 08:48 |
| daniels | terms, words, whatever | 08:48 |
| elmo | daniels: autoconf | 08:48 |
| elmo | hmm, no, that's xutils | 08:49 |
| elmo | I give up | 08:49 |
| elmo | daniels: I bet it probably does path checkes for something in xbase-clients | 08:49 |
| elmo | I ungive up | 08:49 |
| daniels | if that's all it is, I'm going to fucking smash KDE | 08:49 |
| elmo | daniels: I think you need some sleep dude | 08:50 |
| elmo | whee, anastacia's gone INSANE | 08:50 |
| daniels | elmo: yeah, I think I do too, but it's not working out | 08:50 |
| elmo | please demote parted, K THANKS BYE | 08:51 |
| Kamion | eh? | 08:51 |
| elmo | Kamion: check out /home/katie/scratch/x | 08:52 |
| elmo | as I said.. INSANe | 08:52 |
| elmo | I think I managed to catch it while base was regenerating or something | 08:52 |
| fabbione | doko: i didn't build kde stuff yet | 08:55 |
| fabbione | Kamion: i think so... i didn't pay particular attention to it | 08:55 |
| daniels | kdelibs probably runs glxgears to benchmark it or something | 08:56 |
| lamont | ../boost/boost/config/compiler/gcc.hpp:81:7: warning: #warning "Unknown compiler version - please run the configure tests and report the results" | 08:56 |
| lamont | heheh | 08:56 |
| lamont | aqsis wants some porter-love | 08:56 |
| daniels | 'UNDER FIVE BAJILLION FPS, TOO SLOW, TRY A BETTER CARD YOU FRIGGIN' WEENIE' | 08:56 |
| daniels | (seriously, xbase-clients stuff requires a connection to an X server, so it can't be *using* it) | 08:56 |
| lamont | doko: would it be too much to ask for a list of all cxx{libs,apps} and the first version that is transitioned? | 08:58 |
| doko | > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | 08:58 |
| doko | > mrvn@mips:~$ amor | 08:58 |
| doko | > _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root | 08:58 |
| doko | > sh: line 1: iceauth: command not found | 08:58 |
| doko | > ICE Connection rejected! | 08:58 |
| doko | > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | 08:58 |
| doko | > | 08:58 |
| doko | > Iceauth is contained in xbase-clients. | 08:58 |
| lamont | that'll help us make sure we have stuff built eventually | 08:58 |
| doko | This is almost certainly a general DCOP requirement, not a specific amor | 08:58 |
| doko | requirement (certainly the iceauth call doesn't show up anywhere in the | 08:58 |
| doko | kdetoys source tree). I'm reassigning to kdelibs-bin accordingly. | 08:58 |
| doko | for the list of libs, see the wiki | 08:59 |
| lamont | doko: and that has the version that was uploaded with the change? | 08:59 |
| doko | I don't have one for the apps | 08:59 |
| doko | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CxxLibraryList | 09:00 |
| daniels | OH MY GOD IT'S WORSE THAN I THOUGHT | 09:00 |
| lamont | cool | 09:00 |
| doko | lamont: yes | 09:00 |
| lamont | doko: it better not use that during the build... | 09:00 |
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| lamont | (ice) | 09:00 |
| daniels | agh, thpethul ... thpethul!!!! | 09:01 |
| daniels | they include a complete copy of iceauth.c, and build it into libkICE | 09:01 |
| daniels | as well as including several other X source files | 09:01 |
| daniels | they then completely ignore that, and call the iceauth binary anyway | 09:01 |
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| elmo | yeah, I still can't see why they're b-d-ing on it | 09:02 |
| cartman | uhm libICE is dcop only | 09:02 |
| elmo | it might actually be easier to test-compile it on concordia | 09:02 |
| fabbione | because it's 31337 | 09:02 |
| elmo | hmm, or nto | 09:02 |
| daniels | elmo: not a b-d, only a depends for kdelibs4c2 | 09:02 |
| daniels | i.e. kdelibs4c2 -> uninstallable | 09:02 |
| daniels | the solution here is to fix this fucking schitzrophrenia properly | 09:02 |
| elmo | daniels: OH | 09:02 |
| daniels | schitzophrenia, even | 09:02 |
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| daniels | i'm going to try this whole sleep thing again | 09:09 |
| doko | daniels: I'm confused about gstreamer-plugins ... http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gst-plugins0.8/0.8.8-3ubuntu2/gst-plugins0.8_0.8.8-3ubuntu2_20050523-1816-i386-failed.gz | 09:22 |
| lamont | micropolygon.cpp:41: error: declaration of 'Aqsis::CqMemoryPool<Aqsis::CqMicroPolygon, 512l> Aqsis::CqPoolable<Aqsis::CqMicroPolygon, 512l>::m_thePool' outside of class is not definition | 09:22 |
| lamont | micropolygon.cpp:42: error: declaration of 'Aqsis::CqMemoryPool<Aqsis::CqMovingMicroPolygonKey, 512l> Aqsis::CqPoolable<Aqsis::CqMovingMicroPolygonKey, 512l>::m_thePool' outside of class is not definition | 09:22 |
| lamont | feh | 09:22 |
| lamont | sigh... that's an motu thing... sorry | 09:22 |
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| cartman | doko: ping ? | 09:28 |
| cartman | doko: new aspell-en still depends on libaspell15 and not libaspell15c2 | 09:29 |
| cartman | before ping timeouts ;) | 09:29 |
| cartman | uhm same for aspell-bin | 09:30 |
| doko | which version? | 09:34 |
| cartman | one second | 09:34 |
| cartman | aspell-en 6.0-0-3build1 | 09:35 |
| doko | dpkg -l aspell-bin | 09:35 |
| cartman | aspell-bin 0.60.2+20050121-2ubuntu2 | 09:35 |
| doko | ubuntu4 is the current | 09:36 |
| cartman | maybe fails on amd64 hmm | 09:36 |
| cartman | its not under http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/ or I am blind? | 09:36 |
| doko | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/aspell/0.60.2+20050121-2ubuntu4/ | 09:37 |
| cartman | huh thats weird | 09:37 |
| doko | no | 09:37 |
| cartman | its been kept back | 09:38 |
| cartman | ok manual install worked | 09:39 |
| cartman | only problem is aspell-en | 09:39 |
| lamont | doko: if you do another gcc-3.4 upload, could you do the expect 8.3 hack for hppa there too? | 10:56 |
| doko | did it work for 4.0? | 10:57 |
| lamont | dunno... it's waiting for 3.4 to finally finish.. :-) | 11:00 |
| lamont | Running /build/buildd/gcc-3.4-3.4.4/src/libjava/testsuite/libjava.compile/compile.exp ... | 11:01 |
| lamont | and if java segv's, I'm gonna be annoyed' | 11:01 |
| doko | lamont: could you me a favour an poke Gannef on #debian-release, so you need it? it's stuck in the new queue (expect-tcl8.3) | 11:09 |
| lamont | who's Gannfe? | 11:10 |
| doko | Joerg Jaspert, ftp-admin | 11:10 |
| lamont | doko: quite possible I only need it on 2.6 kernels --> ubuntu, but will go poke | 11:10 |
| doko | thanks | 11:11 |
| lamont | the request was really breezy driven | 11:12 |
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| mvo | lamont: the new apt has finished building. should I upload aptitude now with a versionsied build-dependency? or will the new version now automatically pulled in as a build-depends? | 11:33 |
| mvo | I want to upload aptitude now | 11:33 |
| elmo | mvo: the former | 11:33 |
| elmo | you should always update build-depend appropriately and not assume/hope the latest version will be used | 11:34 |
| mvo | ok | 11:34 |
| lamont | elmo++ | 11:36 |
| doko | elmq | 11:43 |
| lamont | what happened to elmp? | 11:43 |
| doko | hmm, elmp | 11:43 |
| doko | ;) | 11:43 |
| doko | lamont: does xorg build or is it waiting? | 11:56 |
| lamont | it's ftbts | 11:57 |
| lamont | ftbfs, even | 11:57 |
| lamont | because of xorg headers. ROCK | 11:57 |
| lamont | ConnDis.c:38:23: error: X11/Xauth.h: No such file or directory | 11:58 |
| lamont | ConnDis.c:39:23: error: X11/Xdmcp.h: No such file or directory | 11:58 |
| doko | ok, preparing an uplaod ... | 11:58 |
| lamont | gcc -c -fsigned-char : now that's just _SICK_ | 11:58 |
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