| Riddell | bah, qt failed on amd 64 | 12:27 |
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| Riddell | I'll take a look | 12:27 |
| amu | i'll change http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuKDEStatus | 12:33 |
| amu | otherwise we work again on the same packages ;) | 12:34 |
| Riddell | good idea | 12:35 |
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| amu | arts looks good | 12:35 |
| amu | just works, if jeff that hears, he'll kick us | 12:37 |
| Riddell | best not tell him that :) | 12:38 |
| amu | ppc isn't tested yet ;) | 12:39 |
| amu | wow that was fast qt3.3.4 is on archive | 12:54 |
| Riddell | the build daemons are flexing their muscles again | 12:55 |
| amu | heheheh | 12:57 |
| Riddell | but not ia64 it seems | 12:57 |
| amu | do you want review arts? | 12:58 |
| Riddell | ok, where is it? | 12:58 |
| amu | qvfbview.cpp: In constructor 'QVFbView::QVFbView(int, int, int, int, QWidget*, const char*, uint)': | 12:58 |
| amu | qvfbview.cpp:118: error: cast from 'unsigned char*' to 'int' loses precision | 12:58 |
| Riddell | amu: yeah, fixing that now | 12:59 |
| KaiL_ | amu: this morning, you said a fixed knetworkconf found it's way into hoary-updates..? | 01:18 |
| Riddell | KaiL_: 0.6.1-3ubuntu4 | 01:21 |
| amu | ii knetworkconf 0.6.1-3ubuntu4 Network configurator for KDE | 01:21 |
| KaiL_ | hmm | 01:21 |
| KaiL_ | packages.ubuntu.com doesn't see it | 01:21 |
| Riddell | KaiL_: packages.ubuntu.com is only rebuilt when the guy gets round to doing it | 01:21 |
| Riddell | and may not have hoary-updates in it | 01:22 |
| KaiL_ | .o0(...) | 01:22 |
| amu | Riddell: that reminds me to change konqui's shortcut (deb) | 01:26 |
| amu | packages.ubuntu.com | 01:26 |
| Riddell | amu: never knew konqueror could do that :) | 01:27 |
| KaiL_ | amu: apt:/? | 01:27 |
| amu | deb: | 01:28 |
| amu | amazing found dbug: | 01:29 |
| KaiL_ | ah, cool.... | 01:30 |
| Riddell | nice | 01:30 |
| KaiL_ | Riddell: if you work on kubuntu-default-settings again: kontact doesn't show the newsreader... | 01:31 |
| KaiL_ | or should I file a bug for that? | 01:31 |
| Riddell | KaiL_: yes, bugzilla report seems appropriate | 01:32 |
| KaiL_ | done | 01:34 |
| Riddell | I wonder why the kontact developers did that anyway, they must not like knode | 01:35 |
| amu | i'm surprised, how many people we have http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuPeople | 01:36 |
| Riddell | the difficulty is getting them to do something :) | 01:37 |
| KaiL_ | 6 of them I know ;) | 01:37 |
| Riddell | community council tomorrow night, hopefully get a new member from that | 01:37 |
| Riddell | I fail to spot KaiL_ on that list | 01:38 |
| KaiL_ | should I change that? :) | 01:39 |
| amu | sh: is also missing | 01:39 |
| Riddell | so he is | 01:41 |
| Riddell | KaiL_: sure, you help lots of people in #kubuntu don't you? | 01:41 |
| KaiL_ | ok, that's an argument :) | 01:42 |
| Riddell | hah, KaiL_ is now one of the KubutuPeople, no escape now! | 01:49 |
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| amu | ;) | 01:59 |
| Riddell | time for sleep | 02:41 |
| amu | n8 Riddell | 02:56 |
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| cartel_ | DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! | 07:35 |
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| JRe | morning | 09:53 |
| amu | JRe: morning | 09:59 |
| JRe | hehe new upstream release of kat :) | 10:24 |
| JRe | Riddell: is the anyone coding a kde util to mount usb keys and camera automatically ? | 10:25 |
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| JRe | exclusivity for kubuntu: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/kat <- kat-0.5.3 | 10:56 |
| Riddell | JRe: I thik ivman can be used as an auto-mounter but it needs some work | 11:27 |
| JRe | Riddell: i have succesfully developped one using usbmount (from debian) | 11:29 |
| hunger_ | The build daemons have not yet started on the cxx transition of kde, have they? | 11:31 |
| JRe | Riddell: but i can use ivman also (it's based on a dcop call) | 11:31 |
| Riddell | "Users which would like an icon to appear when an USB device is plugged in should use the pmount and hal packages instead." | 11:32 |
| hunger_ | Riddell: That works mostly fine for me. | 11:32 |
| Riddell | does usbmount only do usb? | 11:32 |
| hunger_ | Riddell: Why a automounter? | 11:32 |
| Riddell | hunger_: because people plug in a camera or whatever and expect something to happen, currently in kubuntu you have to manually find your way to media:/ and mount it | 11:33 |
| hunger_ | Riddell: I get a icon on the desktop... window opens when I click on it. | 11:34 |
| hunger_ | Riddell: Well, not in breezy currently as media:/ is borked there. | 11:34 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah ubsmount only usb | 11:34 |
| Riddell | hunger_: oh yes we do have that but I have my desktop convered so I never see it :) | 11:34 |
| hunger_ | Riddell: So do I;-) | 11:35 |
| hunger_ | Riddell: So what should happen? Konqui pops up a window? | 11:35 |
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| Riddell | I had to use a mac yesterday and it's horrible having to move windows around to try and find the desktop | 11:35 |
| JRe | Riddell: in my program kde show a window styled dialog wich ppropose what to do | 11:35 |
| JRe | s/window/windowXP | 11:35 |
| Riddell | hunger: yes, Konqi should open at the correct media:/ url, or kaffeine should open if it's a DVD, or kscd if it's an audio CD | 11:36 |
| hunger | JRe: Urgs! I hate windows popping up all the tim. | 11:36 |
| Riddell | JRe: that's the other possibility | 11:36 |
| JRe | hunger: i hate to but you're not forced to start the service! it's for newbies | 11:36 |
| Riddell | JRe: got a screen shot? | 11:36 |
| hunger | Riddell: Fine... please tell me how to kill that feature once it is in place:-) | 11:36 |
| JRe | Riddell: no but if you're interrested i send you one tomorrow | 11:36 |
| Riddell | JRe: I'm interested | 11:37 |
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| hunger | Damn newbies.... lead to all kinds of desktop clutter. | 11:37 |
| === hunger grins. | ||
| hunger | In the good ol' days we only started up X for mosaic. | 11:38 |
| JRe | hunger: ;) yeah but it's the price to pay for having my mother using debian and kde | 11:38 |
| Riddell | amu: did you upload arts? I don't see it in breezy-changes | 11:38 |
| Riddell | pah, mosaic, ruined the web with that silly <img> tag :) | 11:39 |
| hunger | JRe: You can't have her take a couple of years worth of computer science courses? ;-) | 11:39 |
| hunger | Riddell: Right! | 11:39 |
| amu | Riddell: yep, got some trouble and need elmo for it | 11:40 |
| elmo | eh? | 11:40 |
| amu | oh | 11:41 |
| JRe | hunger: ;) ;) | 11:41 |
| hunger | JRe: kat 0.5.3 segfaults during indexing | 11:44 |
| JRe | hunger: amd64 ? | 11:44 |
| JRe | hunger: i386 ? | 11:44 |
| hunger | JRe: ix86. | 11:44 |
| JRe | hunger: you use my package or compiled it fro source? | 11:45 |
| JRe | (debian package source) | 11:45 |
| hunger | JRe: your package. | 11:45 |
| JRe | hunger: what kind of data were you indexing? | 11:45 |
| hunger | JRe: $HOME | 11:46 |
| hunger | JRe: Dunno what exactly broke it:-( | 11:46 |
| JRe | hunger: ;) | 11:46 |
| JRe | hunger: can u send me a backtrace? | 11:46 |
| hunger | JRe: 0.5.2 did the same... I can load the temp.kat (in current dir:-() | 11:46 |
| hunger | JRe: Dunno... | 11:47 |
| JRe | hunger: okay | 11:47 |
| hunger | JRe: kat does not have debug symbols in it, does it? | 11:47 |
| JRe | hunger: no | 11:48 |
| hunger | JRe: So I have to rebuild to get meaningful output:-( | 11:48 |
| JRe | hunger: :( | 11:49 |
| hunger | JRe: I'll see whether I get round to do so later. | 11:49 |
| JRe | hunger: sure :) | 11:49 |
| hunger | JRe: But I think that will have to wait for kde's cxx transition... don't have gcc < 4 anymore. | 11:50 |
| JRe | hunger: you run breezy? | 11:50 |
| hunger | JRe: Sure. | 11:50 |
| JRe | hunger: ;) | 11:51 |
| hunger | JRe: hoary is too boring (aka. stable). | 11:51 |
| JRe | hunger: i think so too but i can't use breezy at work | 11:53 |
| JRe | (aka. too unstable) | 11:54 |
| hunger | JRe: Lucky me: my business compi does not need to be stable. | 11:54 |
| JRe | hunger: :) :) | 11:55 |
| hunger | JRe: I get one from customers to do "real" work on... mine is just to look up docu and stuff. | 11:55 |
| JRe | hunger: hehe you're lucky | 11:55 |
| hunger | JRe: So I am fine as long as I can still use grep;-) | 11:56 |
| JRe | hunger: yeah grep rarely breack :) | 11:56 |
| JRe | Riddell: ivman has not been packages for debian! is someone doing that? | 12:01 |
| JRe | hunger: btw in fact kat has debuint symbols if you lauch it with command line, you may be able to see the reason of the crash | 12:02 |
| hunger | Yahoo... my wallets vanished again:-( | 12:18 |
| JRe | hunger: you're not lucky with your wallet :( | 12:22 |
| hunger | JRe: Dunno what you keep doing to my system;-) | 12:23 |
| JRe | :) | 12:23 |
| hunger | JRe: ASSERT: "subjobs.isEmpty()" in /home/jre/Documents/Ubuntu/kat/kat-0.5.3/src/katpreviewjob.cpp (223) | 12:33 |
| hunger | JRe: Seems to happen just before kat is done indexing... | 12:34 |
| JRe | okay i send this immediatly to the upstream | 12:35 |
| JRe | hunger: strange there is my directory :) | 12:36 |
| hunger | JRe: Of course! | 12:37 |
| hunger | JRe: Asserts are macros and such are set up on compile time. | 12:37 |
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| hunger | JRe: Asserts are macros and such are set up on compile time. | 12:37 |
| JRe | so what i am doing wrong? | 12:38 |
| hunger | JRe: Nothing I'd say. There is a bug in the app. | 12:38 |
| JRe | okay ;) | 12:38 |
| hunger | JRe: Asserts are "assumptions" the developer expects to be true at a given point in a program. | 12:39 |
| hunger | JRe: If they are triggered then either the code or the assumption is wrong. | 12:39 |
| JRe | hunger: okay i see | 12:39 |
| Riddell | amu: shall I take kdebase now? | 12:47 |
| amu | yep please, libs builds fine on top of new qt and arts (i386) | 12:50 |
| === hunger still has 244 debs depending on libstdc++5 | ||
| hunger | Most of those are KDE:-) | 12:59 |
| Riddell | "kde 3.4.1 won't compile with gcc 4.0.1", sigh | 01:07 |
| hunger | Riddell: Who says so? the kde people? | 01:08 |
| Riddell | yes | 01:08 |
| JRe | how :( | 01:12 |
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| hunger | I read that the bug was fixed that broke kde with gcc 4.0 | 01:13 |
| Riddell | "they added new compile checks that break some modules" | 01:13 |
| Riddell | so it's not that it compiles code wrongly like gcc 4.0 did, just that it's even more fussy | 01:14 |
| Riddell | we should be able to work around it | 01:14 |
| hunger | Riddell: Sounds like "We coded closer to the compiler than the c++ standard" to me;-) | 01:14 |
| JRe | ;) | 01:15 |
| JRe | Riddell: so you gonna try to patch and compile it with gcc 4.0? | 01:18 |
| Riddell | JRe: we're using a CVS snapshot of gcc 4.0 which should have fixed the miscompile issues and maybe it doesn't have the extra checks of gcc 4.1 so it'll just work! | 01:19 |
| JRe | Riddell: in france we would have sayed "touch wood" ;) | 01:19 |
| Riddell | in Scotland we would say "contact le bois" | 01:24 |
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| JRe | have you ever seen this: http://klik.atekon.de/? | 03:58 |
| JRe | it's kind of strange! | 03:58 |
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| JRe | it seems that it had been made by knoppix user to install software through a web browser | 04:01 |
| JRe | and it's for kdd | 04:02 |
| JRe | and it's for kde | 04:02 |
| JRe | and debian | 04:03 |
| Riddell | it's interesting | 04:07 |
| Riddell | we do need an easier software installer | 04:07 |
| Riddell | but installing through the web is considered a security risk | 04:07 |
| Riddell | I wonder how they get licence to distribute opera | 04:08 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah it's very strange there is also real player!!! | 04:08 |
| JRe | Riddell: i just discover it one hour ago | 04:08 |
| JRe | Riddell: although the idea of a web based front end for apt is not bad | 04:09 |
| Riddell | apt:/ :) | 04:09 |
| Riddell | do we have that packaged? | 04:10 |
| JRe | nop | 04:10 |
| Riddell | we should | 04:10 |
| JRe | Riddell: oh yeah apt:/ will pe perfect | 04:10 |
| JRe | Riddell: i take a look, and see what i can do | 04:10 |
| JRe | Riddell: the source code is juts on *.c file ;) | 04:15 |
| JRe | one | 04:16 |
| JRe | Riddell: http://klik.atekon.de/architecture/ <- interresting | 04:27 |
| Riddell | /usr/bin/X11 has disappeared from breezy, need to set PATH in debian/rules to include /usr/X11R6/bin | 04:35 |
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| Riddell | kdebase 3.4.1 compiled and konqueror even runs | 05:24 |
| Riddell | fantastic | 05:24 |
| KaiL_ | wow :)) | 05:24 |
| Riddell | amu: accessiblity, edu, multimedia, kdevelop and kdewebdev are known to have gcc 4 compile issues, fixed in SVN | 05:25 |
| KaiL_ | the 3.4.1-Versions have still issues? | 05:25 |
| Riddell | gcc added some extra checks that have tripped up the compiles | 05:26 |
| JRe | Riddell: great! | 05:27 |
| Riddell | amu: we need to work out how to handle the new kde-i18n tars, and get the .pot files in there somehow for rosetta | 05:28 |
| KabelKasper | Riddell: I think the klik recipe points directly to the opera/reel servers, so they don't need at licence to distribute them. Have a look at the sample recipe: http://klik.atekon.de/architecture/recipe.php | 05:37 |
| === Riddell wonders who this "Le Roux, Jean-Michel" chap is on linkedin | ||
| JRe | KabelKasper: klik is a bit strange i dont like the appdir concept | 05:45 |
| KaiL_ | hmm, is konserve always that crashy, or is this a breezy issue? | 05:50 |
| JRe | KaiL_: does konserve allow know to backup multiple directories in the same tar.gz ? | 05:51 |
| JRe | s/know/now/ | 05:51 |
| KaiL_ | no Idea | 05:51 |
| KaiL_ | I just installed it to play a bit with it | 05:52 |
| KaiL_ | but crashes always | 05:52 |
| KaiL_ | maybe you can select 2 folters? | 05:53 |
| JRe | wow it's still the 0.10.3 version | 05:53 |
| JRe | KaiL_: so the bad thing it's that if you want to backup multiple dir (non subdir) you have to mke multiple tar.gz | 05:53 |
| JRe | KaiL_: i am wainting for the KDar package to show up :) | 05:54 |
| KaiL_ | last release over a year ago - this looks bad | 05:54 |
| KaiL_ | what's kDar? | 05:54 |
| JRe | KaiL_: a neat backuping tool | 05:54 |
| JRe | KaiL_: based on Dar | 05:55 |
| Riddell | JRe: put it on the wiki page and find someone to make a package of it | 05:56 |
| JRe | Riddell: someone has yet done an ITP on debian | 05:56 |
| JRe | Riddell: and i have already try to package it but got some issues with the libar | 05:57 |
| Riddell | right | 05:57 |
| JRe | Riddell: so i wait for the ITP guy to release his source package ;) | 05:57 |
| JRe | Riddell: how bad thing the itp was posted 540 days ago! | 05:58 |
| JRe | Ho it seems that there is a package on the kalyxo web site | 05:59 |
| JRe | KaiL_: no commit for konserve on the svn :( the idea was great it was pretty simple and pretty useful | 06:04 |
| KaiL_ | yes | 06:05 |
| KaiL_ | except when it crashes | 06:07 |
| JRe | KaiL_: if you're under breezy you can test: http://kalyxo-archive.mornfall.net/pool/main/k/kdar/ | 06:08 |
| JRe | KaiL_: it seems to be a good backuping tool | 06:09 |
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| JRe | Kail often joins but never quit ;) | 06:14 |
| KaiL | damn 24h disconnect | 06:14 |
| JRe | ;) | 06:15 |
| Riddell | KaiL: what sort of connection does that? | 06:15 |
| JRe | adsl no? | 06:15 |
| KaiL | DSL from DTAG (German Telekom) | 06:15 |
| JRe | to avoid static ip? | 06:15 |
| JRe | it's the same in france | 06:16 |
| KaiL | yes | 06:16 |
| Riddell | strange | 06:16 |
| JRe | Riddell: it's because they actually sell static ip as an option | 06:16 |
| JRe | more expensive of course | 06:16 |
| KaiL | Riddell: here you need to pay 40 EUR for 1MBit DSL Flat | 06:16 |
| Riddell | I pay 25UKP per month for .5Mb | 06:18 |
| JRe | 35euro for 8mb | 06:18 |
| KaiL | hmm, konserve seams to work again | 06:18 |
| Riddell | I think JRe has the best deal :) | 06:18 |
| KaiL | bang, or not... | 06:18 |
| Riddell | 8Mb? thats speedy | 06:18 |
| KaiL | Riddell: ever been in Sweden? | 06:19 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah and moreover i have adsl based tv + free phone in all the france | 06:19 |
| JRe | (voip) | 06:19 |
| KaiL | 100MBit Flat for 20 EUR there | 06:20 |
| Riddell | JRe: is that france telecom a state monopoly? | 06:20 |
| JRe | Riddell: hopefully not anymore | 06:20 |
| Riddell | JRe: are they your provider? | 06:20 |
| JRe | Riddell: nop | 06:21 |
| amu | wowb 100mbit Flat for 20 Euro | 06:21 |
| JRe | amu: yeah thats a conncection! | 06:21 |
| amu | JRe: where i must sign for such a contract ? | 06:21 |
| JRe | amu: in sweden if i have well understood | 06:22 |
| JRe | Riddell: the most funny is that my provider, Free, has build a box which run under linux! | 06:23 |
| amu | presupposed i've a all time down/upload rate from 12,5Mbit 24/7/365 | 06:23 |
| JRe | amu: it's king of good ;) | 06:23 |
| JRe | s/king/kind/ | 06:23 |
| KaiL | hmm, kDar creates a bit bigger files than konserve | 06:24 |
| JRe | KaiL: so how is kdar ? | 06:24 |
| amu | 100mbit for that money, isnt possible :) | 06:24 |
| KaiL | JRe: looks good, but much more complicate than konserve imho | 06:25 |
| JRe | KaiL: it's what i thinked too. But we need a program of thaht kind in kde/ubuntu | 06:25 |
| JRe | kubuntu | 06:25 |
| JRe | amu: yeah it's amazing 100 mb for only 25 euro! | 06:26 |
| JRe | it must be an optical fiber network | 06:27 |
| amu | probably you must share those 100bmit with millions other | 06:28 |
| JRe | ;) | 06:28 |
| amu | and maybe between 5:11 and 5:13 you get those 100mbit, while downloading a movie from isp | 06:29 |
| JRe | amu: http://www.bredband.com/se/index.jsp | 06:29 |
| JRe | it seems to be true! | 06:30 |
| JRe | and it's optical network | 06:30 |
| JRe | i can't understand the price tough | 06:31 |
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| amu | please check also against existing bugs, tagged kubuntu meta-packages and packages :) | 07:06 |
| amu | uniq: wow that was fast, i got new batteries | 07:07 |
| amu | ups was here | 07:08 |
| uniq | amu: wow.. i haven't got my powerbook yet.. i'm guessing day after tomorrow or something. | 07:08 |
| uniq | but then again.. i live very decentralized. | 07:08 |
| amu | uniq: it comes from .nl :) | 07:09 |
| uniq | ok.. then it'll be just 4-5 days. :) | 07:10 |
| uniq | if i were on the https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuWorldWide - map i'd be the one closest to the northpole :) | 07:10 |
| Riddell | uniq: the very centre of the northern hemisphere :) | 07:11 |
| uniq | very close :) | 07:11 |
| uniq | I'm close to Tromso -> http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/no.htm | 07:16 |
| uniq | any kubuntu task to be done, than i can help with? | 07:18 |
| uniq | make that (k)ubuntu. | 07:18 |
| Riddell | uniq: try and beat jre to packaging kdar | 07:20 |
| Riddell | he gave up | 07:20 |
| uniq | ok. | 07:20 |
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| jeramy | Hi there, it looks like I'm doing the Debian/Ubuntu integration for KWifiManager. If anybody here knows a bunch about /etc/network/interfaces, I'd appreciate your input. | 07:42 |
| uniq | anything specific you've got problems with? | 07:49 |
| uniq | riddell: this i'll be easy.. again.. kalyxo got packages of kdar, a simple recompile :) | 07:59 |
| uniq | (though, once i said that i asked for problems) | 07:59 |
| jeramy | Yeah, from everything that I've read, you can only put one essid and key in /etc/network/interfaces | 08:01 |
| jeramy | I'm thinking to just put the current default there, since they're stored somewhere else. | 08:01 |
| Riddell | jeramy: yes, only one active one (how can you have anything else?), you can comment the others out | 08:04 |
| jeramy | Riddell: When I played around with the GNOME tools, it would wipe out any others (unless I manually went in and commented them out). | 08:05 |
| jeramy | Right now, my setup doesn't even use the interfaces stuff at all. ;) | 08:06 |
| Riddell | jeramy: have you done this for other distributions? how do they manage it? | 08:07 |
| jeramy | No, I haven't. The main dev for kwifimanager runs SuSE and has integrated that. I suppose I should ask him for the format of theirs. :) | 08:08 |
| jeramy | I have an idea how I'm going to do it, I just wanted to make sure there aren't any gotchas. | 08:09 |
| Riddell | well I'd say just comment out any existing ones when a new value is set and if the value matches any commented out lines, uncomment them | 08:09 |
| Riddell | wireless-essid any works for me :) | 08:10 |
| jeramy | Well... that works for me. :) I just wonder if it's worth it to duplicate the already-stored keys. | 08:10 |
| jeramy | That only works though if you have no encryption setup. | 08:11 |
| Riddell | ok, so I need kwifimanager to handle the wireless-key I guess | 08:11 |
| Riddell | is kwifimanager going to talk to kismet_server ever? :) | 08:12 |
| === jeramy starts to look up kismet_server | ||
| uniq | jeramy: why don't make it uncomment any others.. and make a line like # KWIFIMANAGER CONFIGURATION FOLLOWS.. and wipe everything below that line, when changing.. or something? | 08:13 |
| jeramy | ah | 08:13 |
| === uniq is throwing ideas into the air. | ||
| jeramy | Yep, thought of it. | 08:13 |
| jeramy | ;) | 08:14 |
| uniq | :) | 08:14 |
| jeramy | About Kismet, maybe in the future, but first I want to make sure everything works first. ;) | 08:16 |
| Riddell | jeramy: the scan for networks thing, that needs to be a separate process run with kdesu | 08:16 |
| Riddell | just incase you were looking for more programming to do on it | 08:17 |
| jeramy | In SVN, everything seems to work. Only thing that's missing is integration with all non-SuSE distros and scan as root | 08:17 |
| jeramy | There is a scan for networks, but it currently doesn't run as root. I have to talk with Stefan about that. | 08:17 |
| jeramy | Riddell: believe me, that'll be done by the time I'm done with it. :) | 08:18 |
| Riddell | jeramy: excellent :) | 08:18 |
| jeramy | ok that sounded stupid | 08:18 |
| Riddell | jeramy: how does the new KDE logo look on it's artwork? | 08:19 |
| jeramy | Do you mean the tray applet or what? | 08:19 |
| Riddell | no the laptop image | 08:19 |
| Riddell | that work of artisic genius on kwifimanager had the old KDE logo | 08:20 |
| Riddell | but it should have the new one now | 08:20 |
| jeramy | whoops. :) | 08:20 |
| jeramy | Let me check. | 08:21 |
| jeramy | For some stupid reason, I locked my other session and now I can't get back in.. :( | 08:22 |
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| jeramy | Yes, it has the new logo | 08:24 |
| jeramy | Now will it get changed in time for KDE 4? Hmmm... | 08:24 |
| Riddell | jeramy: changed in which way? | 08:26 |
| jeramy | to the kde 4 logo, of course. :) | 08:26 |
| Riddell | well I'm pretty sure the KDE logo won't change for KDE 4 but if it doesn't I'll make sure to update kwifimanager too | 08:27 |
| Riddell | s/doesn't/does/ | 08:27 |
| jeramy | Ah. You do the art for it? | 08:27 |
| Riddell | I do | 08:28 |
| jeramy | Cooll | 08:28 |
| Riddell | well, it's better than what it had before | 08:28 |
| jeramy | Agreed. KDE 3 was a huge step forward in terms of looks. | 08:29 |
| Riddell | amu: kdeedu has had gcc 4 fixes today or yesterday, take a look at kde-cvs and pick them out | 08:35 |
| amu | Riddell: thx 4info randomly picked up them | 08:36 |
| amu | someone without work :) ? | 08:37 |
| Riddell | amu: done by the SuSE packager actually | 08:37 |
| Riddell | a lot more friendly than the red hat packagers who don't send their fixes back | 08:38 |
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| amu | sure in this case suse is cool, i'm all time looking for the latest sourceCD's :) | 08:39 |
| froud | Hi, just tried adding a wlan pcmcia to my laptop I got the Atheros chipset working no problem, but the card is recognized as eth1 (should this not be wlan0) | 08:39 |
| Riddell | froud: depends how the driver is written, my wifi card is eth1 | 08:40 |
| froud | also even though I use knetworkconf for config of IP etc, it only has the address and netmask I could not define values such as gateway broadcast etc | 08:40 |
| froud | I had to manuall edit /etc/network/interfaces | 08:41 |
| froud | to get it working | 08:41 |
| froud | for some reason each time I used knetworkconf the gateway and the nameserver info was not added to the iface in /etc/network/interfaces | 08:41 |
| Riddell | froud: hmm, I think there's a bugzilla report for that. knetworkconf need testing | 08:41 |
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| froud | Ok, so it is a known problem | 08:42 |
| froud | Thanks | 08:42 |
| amu | froud: eth/wlan no prob | 08:42 |
| Riddell | lamont-away: what's wrong with it? | 08:42 |
| amu | lamont-away: dbus-qt at least | 08:42 |
| froud | Riddell: btw, we have a kubuntu kwick guide in svn that is looking very good and we have a installation guide | 08:43 |
| lamont | dh_install -pkdm | 08:43 |
| lamont | cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess': No such file or directory | 08:43 |
| lamont | does it maybe look at DEB_* variables to decide what to do? | 08:43 |
| froud | Riddell: will have it ready soon so you can upload then to the web site :-) | 08:43 |
| Riddell | froud: excellent, great news | 08:43 |
| froud | Ok c ya back to work | 08:44 |
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| Riddell | lamont: should be just a generated file, I'll take a look | 08:47 |
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| lamont | dear kubuntu-meta guy. next time you upload, please add hppa to the list of architectures from ports.ubuntu.com. kthxbye | 09:11 |
| KaiL | ia64, sparc, hppa | 09:16 |
| KaiL | what's next? my toaster? :) | 09:16 |
| jeramy | yup | 09:18 |
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| Riddell | haggai: could you op on #kubuntu | 09:57 |
| Riddell | technical board meeting now in #ubuntu-meeting, community meeting in 2 hours | 10:18 |
| uniq | maybe i should try for membership.. | 10:21 |
| Riddell | uniq: do you have a wiki page? | 10:21 |
| uniq | riddell: yes.. | 10:21 |
| uniq | wiki.ubuntu.com/FrodeDoeving | 10:21 |
| Riddell | of course, I've seen it | 10:21 |
| uniq | :) | 10:21 |
| Riddell | uniq: add yourself to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CommunityCouncilAgenda and go for it | 10:23 |
| uniq | ok. if you say so :) | 10:24 |
| Riddell | think up something good in answer to "tell us about yourself and why you'd like to help ubuntu" | 10:24 |
| uniq | heh. | 10:24 |
| uniq | ok. | 10:24 |
| Riddell | and "because debian new maintainer process is too much work" isn't an answer :) | 10:25 |
| uniq | haha.. :) | 10:26 |
| doko | Riddell, the kdebase build failure looks like some xorg reorganisation ... | 10:29 |
| doko | maybe wait for daniels | 10:30 |
| jeramy | Did it fail today? I built it a couple of days ago no problem. | 10:31 |
| Riddell | jeramy: new KDE version, new X bits | 10:32 |
| Riddell | and I can't get pbuilder to work due to depends not happy | 10:33 |
| Riddell | well I just uploaded a new version | 10:33 |
| amu | uniq: i've a special request for you: http://kpod.sourceforge.net/ipodslave/ | 10:36 |
| uniq | amu: ok.. nice.. i'd have to by an ipod then.. i guess :) | 10:37 |
| amu | uniq: could you package it please | 10:38 |
| doko | "just uploading" is bad ... | 10:38 |
| Riddell | doko: agreed, what's the best way to test? | 10:38 |
| uniq | amu: i'll take a look at it.. currently fighting with kdar.. but i think i'll put it on hold.. some c++ strangeness i can't figure out.. right now. | 10:39 |
| amu | uniq: cool, no prob there's no timelinit, just nice to have, asked maybe you hang boring around and you dont know what to do ;) | 10:40 |
| doko | Riddell, the dependencies should be fine again | 10:40 |
| uniq | amu: good :) | 10:42 |
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