[12:27] <Riddell> bah, qt failed on amd 64
[12:27] <Riddell> I'll take a look
[12:33] <amu> i'll change http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuKDEStatus
[12:34] <amu> otherwise we work again on the same packages ;)
[12:35] <Riddell> good idea
[12:35] <amu> arts looks good 
[12:37] <amu> just works, if jeff that hears, he'll kick us  
[12:38] <Riddell> best not tell him that :)
[12:39] <amu> ppc isn't tested yet ;)
[12:54] <amu> wow that was fast qt3.3.4 is on archive 
[12:55] <Riddell> the build daemons are flexing their muscles again
[12:57] <amu> heheheh
[12:57] <Riddell> but not ia64 it seems
[12:58] <amu> do you want review arts? 
[12:58] <Riddell> ok, where is it?
[12:58] <amu> qvfbview.cpp: In constructor 'QVFbView::QVFbView(int, int, int, int, QWidget*, const char*, uint)':
[12:58] <amu> qvfbview.cpp:118: error: cast from 'unsigned char*' to 'int' loses precision
[12:59] <Riddell> amu: yeah, fixing that now
[01:18] <KaiL_> amu: this morning, you said a fixed knetworkconf found it's way into hoary-updates..?
[01:21] <Riddell> KaiL_: 0.6.1-3ubuntu4
[01:21] <amu> ii  knetworkconf   0.6.1-3ubuntu4 Network configurator for KDE
[01:21] <KaiL_> hmm
[01:21] <KaiL_> packages.ubuntu.com doesn't see it
[01:21] <Riddell> KaiL_: packages.ubuntu.com is only rebuilt when the guy gets round to doing it
[01:22] <Riddell> and may not have hoary-updates in it
[01:22] <KaiL_> .o0(...)
[01:26] <amu> Riddell: that reminds me to change konqui's shortcut (deb) 
[01:26] <amu> packages.ubuntu.com
[01:27] <Riddell> amu: never knew konqueror could do that :)
[01:27] <KaiL_> amu: apt:/?
[01:28] <amu> deb:
[01:29] <amu> amazing found dbug:   
[01:30] <KaiL_> ah, cool....
[01:30] <Riddell> nice
[01:31] <KaiL_> Riddell: if you work on kubuntu-default-settings again: kontact doesn't show the newsreader...
[01:31] <KaiL_> or should I file a bug for that?
[01:32] <Riddell> KaiL_: yes, bugzilla report seems appropriate
[01:34] <KaiL_> done
[01:35] <Riddell> I wonder why the kontact developers did that anyway, they must not like knode
[01:36] <amu> i'm surprised, how many people we have http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuPeople
[01:37] <Riddell> the difficulty is getting them to do something :)
[01:37] <KaiL_> 6 of them I know ;)
[01:37] <Riddell> community council tomorrow night, hopefully get a new member from that
[01:38] <Riddell> I fail to spot KaiL_ on that list
[01:39] <KaiL_> should I change that? :)
[01:39] <amu> sh: is also missing 
[01:41] <Riddell> so he is
[01:41] <Riddell> KaiL_: sure, you help lots of people in #kubuntu don't you?
[01:42] <KaiL_> ok, that's an argument :)
[01:49] <Riddell> hah, KaiL_ is now one of the KubutuPeople, no escape now!
[01:59] <amu> ;)
[02:41] <Riddell> time for sleep
[02:56] <amu> n8 Riddell 
[07:35] <cartel_> DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!
[09:53] <JRe> morning
[09:59] <amu> JRe: morning
[10:24] <JRe> hehe new upstream release of kat :)
[10:25] <JRe> Riddell: is the anyone coding a kde util to mount usb keys and camera automatically ?
[10:56] <JRe> exclusivity for kubuntu: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/kat <- kat-0.5.3
[11:27] <Riddell> JRe: I thik ivman can be used as an auto-mounter but it needs some work
[11:29] <JRe> Riddell: i have succesfully developped one using usbmount (from debian)
[11:31] <hunger_> The build daemons have not yet started on the cxx transition of kde, have they?
[11:31] <JRe> Riddell: but i can use ivman also (it's based on a dcop call)
[11:32] <Riddell> "Users which would like an icon to appear when an USB device is plugged in should use the pmount and hal packages instead."
[11:32] <hunger_> Riddell: That works mostly fine for me.
[11:32] <Riddell> does usbmount only do usb?
[11:32] <hunger_> Riddell: Why a automounter?
[11:33] <Riddell> hunger_: because people plug in a camera or whatever and expect something to happen, currently in kubuntu you have to manually find your way to media:/ and mount it
[11:34] <hunger_> Riddell: I get a icon on the desktop... window opens when I click on it.
[11:34] <hunger_> Riddell: Well, not in breezy currently as media:/ is borked there.
[11:34] <JRe> Riddell: yeah ubsmount only usb
[11:34] <Riddell> hunger_: oh yes we do have that but I have my desktop convered so I never see it :)
[11:35] <hunger_> Riddell: So do I;-)
[11:35] <hunger_> Riddell: So what should happen? Konqui pops up a window?
[11:35] <Riddell> I had to use a mac yesterday and it's horrible having to move windows around to try and find the desktop
[11:35] <JRe> Riddell: in my program kde show a window styled dialog  wich ppropose what to do
[11:35] <JRe> s/window/windowXP
[11:36] <Riddell> hunger: yes, Konqi should open at the correct media:/ url, or kaffeine should open if it's a DVD, or kscd if it's an audio CD
[11:36] <hunger> JRe: Urgs! I hate windows popping up all the tim.
[11:36] <Riddell> JRe: that's the other possibility
[11:36] <JRe> hunger: i hate to but you're not forced to start the service! it's for newbies
[11:36] <Riddell> JRe: got a screen shot?
[11:36] <hunger> Riddell: Fine... please tell me how to kill that feature once it is in place:-)
[11:36] <JRe> Riddell: no but if you're interrested i send you one tomorrow
[11:37] <Riddell> JRe: I'm interested
[11:37] <hunger> Damn newbies.... lead to all kinds of desktop clutter.
[11:38] <hunger> In the good ol' days we only started up X for mosaic.
[11:38] <JRe> hunger: ;) yeah but it's the price to pay for having my mother using debian and kde
[11:38] <Riddell> amu: did you upload arts?  I don't see it in breezy-changes
[11:39] <Riddell> pah, mosaic, ruined the web with that silly <img> tag :)
[11:39] <hunger> JRe: You can't have her take a couple of years worth of computer science courses? ;-)
[11:39] <hunger> Riddell: Right!
[11:40] <amu> Riddell: yep, got some trouble and need elmo for it
[11:40] <elmo> eh?
[11:41] <amu> oh  
[11:41] <JRe> hunger: ;) ;)
[11:44] <hunger> JRe: kat 0.5.3 segfaults during indexing
[11:44] <JRe> hunger: amd64 ?
[11:44] <JRe> hunger: i386 ?
[11:44] <hunger> JRe: ix86.
[11:45] <JRe> hunger: you use my package or compiled it fro source?
[11:45] <JRe> (debian package source)
[11:45] <hunger> JRe: your package.
[11:45] <JRe> hunger: what kind of data were you indexing?
[11:46] <hunger> JRe: $HOME
[11:46] <hunger> JRe: Dunno what exactly broke it:-(
[11:46] <JRe> hunger: ;)
[11:46] <JRe> hunger: can u send me a backtrace?
[11:46] <hunger> JRe: 0.5.2 did the same... I can load the temp.kat (in current dir:-()
[11:47] <hunger> JRe: Dunno...
[11:47] <JRe> hunger: okay
[11:47] <hunger> JRe: kat does not have debug symbols in it, does it?
[11:48] <JRe> hunger: no
[11:48] <hunger> JRe: So I have to rebuild to get meaningful output:-(
[11:49] <JRe> hunger: :(
[11:49] <hunger> JRe: I'll see whether I get round to do so later.
[11:49] <JRe> hunger: sure :)
[11:50] <hunger> JRe: But I think that will have to wait for kde's cxx transition... don't have gcc < 4 anymore.
[11:50] <JRe> hunger: you run breezy?
[11:50] <hunger> JRe: Sure.
[11:51] <JRe> hunger: ;)
[11:51] <hunger> JRe: hoary is too boring (aka. stable).
[11:53] <JRe> hunger: i think so too but i can't use breezy at work 
[11:54] <JRe> (aka. too unstable)
[11:54] <hunger> JRe: Lucky me: my business compi does not need to be stable.
[11:55] <JRe> hunger: :) :)
[11:55] <hunger> JRe: I get one from customers to do "real" work on... mine is just to look up docu and stuff.
[11:55] <JRe> hunger: hehe you're lucky
[11:56] <hunger> JRe: So I am fine as long as I can still use grep;-)
[11:56] <JRe> hunger: yeah grep rarely breack :)
[12:01] <JRe> Riddell: ivman has not been packages for debian! is someone doing that?
[12:02] <JRe> hunger: btw in fact kat has debuint symbols if you lauch it with command line, you may be able to see the reason of the crash
[12:18] <hunger> Yahoo... my wallets vanished again:-(
[12:22] <JRe> hunger: you're not lucky with your wallet :(
[12:23] <hunger> JRe: Dunno what you keep doing to my system;-)
[12:23] <JRe> :)
[12:33] <hunger> JRe: ASSERT: "subjobs.isEmpty()" in /home/jre/Documents/Ubuntu/kat/kat-0.5.3/src/katpreviewjob.cpp (223)
[12:34] <hunger> JRe: Seems to happen just before kat is done indexing...
[12:35] <JRe> okay i send this immediatly to the upstream
[12:36] <JRe> hunger: strange there is my directory :)
[12:37] <hunger> JRe: Of course!
[12:37] <hunger> JRe: Asserts are macros and such are set up on compile time.
[12:37] <hunger> JRe: Asserts are macros and such are set up on compile time.
[12:38] <JRe> so what i am doing wrong?
[12:38] <hunger> JRe: Nothing I'd say. There is a bug in the app.
[12:38] <JRe> okay ;)
[12:39] <hunger> JRe: Asserts are "assumptions" the developer expects to be true at a given point in a program.
[12:39] <hunger> JRe: If they are triggered then either the code or the assumption is wrong.
[12:39] <JRe> hunger: okay i see
[12:47] <Riddell> amu: shall I take kdebase now?
[12:50] <amu> yep please, libs builds fine on top of new qt and arts (i386) 
[12:59] <hunger> Most of those are KDE:-)
[01:07] <Riddell> "kde 3.4.1 won't compile with gcc 4.0.1", sigh
[01:08] <hunger> Riddell: Who says so? the kde people?
[01:08] <Riddell> yes
[01:12] <JRe> how :(
[01:13] <hunger> I read that the bug was fixed that broke kde with gcc 4.0
[01:13] <Riddell> "they added new compile checks that break some modules"
[01:14] <Riddell> so it's not that it compiles code wrongly like gcc 4.0 did, just that it's even more fussy
[01:14] <Riddell> we should be able to work around it
[01:14] <hunger> Riddell: Sounds like "We coded closer to the compiler than the c++ standard" to me;-)
[01:15] <JRe> ;)
[01:18] <JRe> Riddell: so you gonna try to patch and compile it with gcc 4.0?
[01:19] <Riddell> JRe: we're using a CVS snapshot of gcc 4.0 which should have fixed the miscompile issues and maybe it doesn't have the extra checks of gcc 4.1 so it'll just work!
[01:19] <JRe> Riddell: in france we would have sayed "touch wood" ;)
[01:24] <Riddell> in Scotland we would say "contact le bois"
[03:58] <JRe> have you ever seen this: http://klik.atekon.de/?
[03:58] <JRe> it's kind of strange!
[04:01] <JRe> it seems that it had been made by knoppix user to install software through a web browser
[04:02] <JRe> and it's for kdd
[04:02] <JRe> and it's for kde
[04:03] <JRe> and debian
[04:07] <Riddell> it's interesting
[04:07] <Riddell> we do need an easier software installer
[04:07] <Riddell> but installing through the web is considered a security risk
[04:08] <Riddell> I wonder how they get licence to distribute opera
[04:08] <JRe> Riddell: yeah it's very strange there is also real player!!!
[04:08] <JRe> Riddell: i just discover it one hour ago
[04:09] <JRe> Riddell: although the idea of a web based front end for apt is not bad
[04:09] <Riddell> apt:/  :)
[04:10] <Riddell> do we have that packaged?
[04:10] <JRe> nop
[04:10] <Riddell> we should
[04:10] <JRe> Riddell: oh yeah apt:/ will pe perfect
[04:10] <JRe> Riddell: i take a look, and see what i can do
[04:15] <JRe> Riddell: the source code is juts on *.c file ;)
[04:16] <JRe> one
[04:27] <JRe> Riddell: http://klik.atekon.de/architecture/ <- interresting
[04:35] <Riddell>  /usr/bin/X11 has disappeared from breezy, need to set PATH in debian/rules to include /usr/X11R6/bin
[05:24] <Riddell> kdebase 3.4.1 compiled and konqueror even runs
[05:24] <Riddell> fantastic
[05:24] <KaiL_> wow :))
[05:25] <Riddell> amu: accessiblity, edu, multimedia, kdevelop and kdewebdev are known to have gcc 4 compile issues, fixed in SVN
[05:25] <KaiL_> the 3.4.1-Versions have still issues?
[05:26] <Riddell> gcc added some extra checks that have tripped up the compiles
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: great!
[05:28] <Riddell> amu: we need to work out how to handle the new kde-i18n tars, and get the .pot files in there somehow for rosetta
[05:37] <KabelKasper> Riddell: I think the klik recipe points directly to the opera/reel servers, so they don't need at licence to distribute them. Have a look at the sample recipe: http://klik.atekon.de/architecture/recipe.php 
[05:45] <JRe> KabelKasper: klik is a bit strange i dont like the appdir concept
[05:50] <KaiL_> hmm, is konserve always that crashy, or is this a breezy issue?
[05:51] <JRe> KaiL_: does konserve allow know to backup multiple directories in the same tar.gz ?
[05:51] <JRe> s/know/now/
[05:51] <KaiL_> no Idea
[05:52] <KaiL_> I just installed it to play a bit with it
[05:52] <KaiL_> but crashes always
[05:53] <KaiL_> maybe you can select 2 folters?
[05:53] <JRe> wow it's still the 0.10.3 version
[05:53] <JRe> KaiL_: so the bad thing it's that if you want to backup multiple dir (non subdir) you have to mke multiple tar.gz
[05:54] <JRe> KaiL_: i am wainting for the KDar package to show up :)
[05:54] <KaiL_> last release over a year ago - this looks bad
[05:54] <KaiL_> what's kDar?
[05:54] <JRe> KaiL_: a neat backuping tool
[05:55] <JRe> KaiL_: based on Dar
[05:56] <Riddell> JRe: put it on the wiki page and find someone to make a package of it
[05:56] <JRe> Riddell: someone has yet done an ITP on debian
[05:57] <JRe> Riddell: and i have already try to package it but got some issues with the libar
[05:57] <Riddell> right
[05:57] <JRe> Riddell: so i wait for the ITP guy to release his source package ;)
[05:58] <JRe> Riddell: how bad thing the itp was posted 540 days ago!
[05:59] <JRe> Ho it seems that there is a package on the kalyxo web site 
[06:04] <JRe> KaiL_: no commit for konserve on the svn :( the idea  was great it was pretty simple and pretty useful
[06:05] <KaiL_> yes
[06:07] <KaiL_> except when it crashes
[06:08] <JRe> KaiL_: if you're under breezy you can test: http://kalyxo-archive.mornfall.net/pool/main/k/kdar/
[06:09] <JRe> KaiL_: it seems to be a good backuping tool
[06:14] <JRe> Kail often joins but never quit ;)
[06:14] <KaiL> damn 24h disconnect
[06:15] <JRe> ;)
[06:15] <Riddell> KaiL: what sort of connection does that?
[06:15] <JRe> adsl no?
[06:15] <KaiL> DSL from DTAG (German Telekom)
[06:15] <JRe> to avoid static ip?
[06:16] <JRe> it's the same in france
[06:16] <KaiL> yes
[06:16] <Riddell> strange
[06:16] <JRe> Riddell: it's because they actually sell static ip as an option
[06:16] <JRe> more expensive of course
[06:16] <KaiL> Riddell: here you need to pay 40 EUR for 1MBit DSL Flat
[06:18] <Riddell> I pay 25UKP per month for .5Mb
[06:18] <JRe> 35euro for 8mb
[06:18] <KaiL> hmm,  konserve seams to work again
[06:18] <Riddell> I think JRe has the best deal :)
[06:18] <KaiL> bang, or not...
[06:18] <Riddell> 8Mb?  thats speedy
[06:19] <KaiL> Riddell: ever been in Sweden?
[06:19] <JRe> Riddell: yeah and moreover i have adsl based tv + free phone in all the france
[06:19] <JRe> (voip)
[06:20] <KaiL> 100MBit Flat for 20 EUR there
[06:20] <Riddell> JRe: is that france telecom a state monopoly?
[06:20] <JRe> Riddell: hopefully not anymore
[06:20] <Riddell> JRe: are they your provider?
[06:21] <JRe> Riddell: nop
[06:21] <amu> wowb 100mbit Flat for 20 Euro 
[06:21] <JRe> amu: yeah thats a conncection!
[06:21] <amu> JRe: where i must sign for such a contract ? 
[06:22] <JRe> amu: in sweden if i have well understood
[06:23] <JRe> Riddell: the most funny is that my provider, Free, has build a box which run under linux!
[06:23] <amu> presupposed i've a all time down/upload rate from 12,5Mbit 24/7/365  
[06:23] <JRe> amu: it's king of good ;)
[06:23] <JRe> s/king/kind/
[06:24] <KaiL> hmm, kDar creates a bit bigger files than konserve
[06:24] <JRe> KaiL: so how is kdar ?
[06:24] <amu> 100mbit for that money, isnt possible :)     
[06:25] <KaiL> JRe: looks good, but much more complicate than konserve imho
[06:25] <JRe> KaiL: it's what i thinked too. But we need a program of thaht kind in kde/ubuntu
[06:25] <JRe> kubuntu
[06:26] <JRe> amu: yeah it's amazing 100 mb for only 25 euro!
[06:27] <JRe> it must be an optical fiber network
[06:28] <amu> probably you must share those 100bmit with millions other 
[06:28] <JRe> ;)
[06:29] <amu> and maybe between 5:11 and 5:13 you get those 100mbit, while downloading a movie from isp        
[06:29] <JRe> amu: http://www.bredband.com/se/index.jsp
[06:30] <JRe> it seems to be true!
[06:30] <JRe> and it's optical network
[06:31] <JRe> i can't understand the price tough
[07:06] <amu> please check also against existing bugs, tagged kubuntu meta-packages and packages :)
[07:07] <amu> uniq: wow that was fast, i got new batteries  
[07:08] <amu> ups was here 
[07:08] <uniq> amu: wow.. i haven't got my powerbook yet.. i'm guessing day after tomorrow or something.
[07:08] <uniq> but then again.. i live very decentralized.
[07:09] <amu> uniq: it comes from .nl :)   
[07:10] <uniq> ok.. then it'll be just 4-5 days. :)
[07:10] <uniq> if i were on the https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuWorldWide - map i'd be the one closest to the northpole :)
[07:11] <Riddell> uniq: the very centre of the northern hemisphere :)
[07:11] <uniq> very close :)
[07:16] <uniq> I'm close to Tromso -> http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/no.htm 
[07:18] <uniq> any kubuntu task to be done, than i can help with? 
[07:18] <uniq> make that (k)ubuntu.
[07:20] <Riddell> uniq: try and beat jre to packaging kdar
[07:20] <Riddell> he gave up
[07:20] <uniq> ok.
[07:42] <jeramy> Hi there, it looks like I'm doing the Debian/Ubuntu integration for KWifiManager.  If anybody here knows a bunch about /etc/network/interfaces, I'd appreciate your input.
[07:49] <uniq> anything specific you've got problems with? 
[07:59] <uniq> riddell: this i'll be easy.. again.. kalyxo got packages of kdar, a simple recompile :)
[07:59] <uniq> (though, once i said that i asked for problems)
[08:01] <jeramy> Yeah, from everything that I've read, you can only put one essid and key in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:01] <jeramy> I'm thinking to just put the current default there, since they're stored somewhere else.
[08:04] <Riddell> jeramy: yes, only one active one (how can you have anything else?), you can comment the others out
[08:05] <jeramy> Riddell: When I played around with the GNOME tools, it would wipe out any others (unless I manually went in and commented them out).
[08:06] <jeramy> Right now, my setup doesn't even use the interfaces stuff at all.  ;)
[08:07] <Riddell> jeramy: have you done this for other distributions?  how do they manage it?
[08:08] <jeramy> No, I haven't.  The main dev for kwifimanager runs SuSE and has integrated that.  I suppose I should ask him for the format of theirs.  :)
[08:09] <jeramy> I have an idea how I'm going to do it, I just wanted to make sure there aren't any gotchas.
[08:09] <Riddell> well I'd say just comment out any existing ones when a new value is set and if the value matches any commented out lines, uncomment them
[08:10] <Riddell> wireless-essid any   works for me :)
[08:10] <jeramy> Well... that works for me.  :)  I just wonder if it's worth it to duplicate the already-stored keys.
[08:11] <jeramy> That only works though if you have no encryption setup.
[08:11] <Riddell> ok, so I need kwifimanager to handle the wireless-key I guess
[08:12] <Riddell> is kwifimanager going to talk to kismet_server ever? :)
[08:13] <uniq> jeramy: why don't make it uncomment any others.. and make a line like # KWIFIMANAGER CONFIGURATION FOLLOWS.. and wipe everything below that line, when changing.. or something? 
[08:13] <jeramy> ah
[08:13] <jeramy> Yep, thought of it.
[08:14] <jeramy> ;)
[08:14] <uniq> :)
[08:16] <jeramy> About Kismet, maybe in the future, but first I want to make sure everything works first.  ;)
[08:16] <Riddell> jeramy: the scan for networks thing, that needs to be a separate process run with kdesu
[08:17] <Riddell> just incase you were looking for more programming to do on it
[08:17] <jeramy> In SVN, everything seems to work.  Only thing that's missing is integration with all non-SuSE distros and scan as root
[08:17] <jeramy> There is a scan for networks, but it currently doesn't run as root.  I have to talk with Stefan about that.
[08:18] <jeramy> Riddell: believe me, that'll be done by the time I'm done with it.  :)
[08:18] <Riddell> jeramy: excellent :)
[08:18] <jeramy> ok that sounded stupid
[08:19] <Riddell> jeramy: how does the new KDE logo look on it's artwork?
[08:19] <jeramy> Do you mean the tray applet or what?
[08:19] <Riddell> no the laptop image
[08:20] <Riddell> that work of artisic genius on kwifimanager had the old KDE logo
[08:20] <Riddell> but it should have the new one now
[08:20] <jeramy> whoops.  :)
[08:21] <jeramy> Let me check.
[08:22] <jeramy> For some stupid reason, I locked my other session and now I can't get back in.. :(
[08:24] <jeramy> Yes, it has the new logo
[08:24] <jeramy> Now will it get changed in time for KDE 4?  Hmmm...
[08:26] <Riddell> jeramy: changed in which way?
[08:26] <jeramy> to the kde 4 logo, of course.  :)
[08:27] <Riddell> well I'm pretty sure the KDE logo won't change for KDE 4 but if it doesn't I'll make sure to update kwifimanager too
[08:27] <Riddell> s/doesn't/does/
[08:27] <jeramy> Ah.  You do the art for it?
[08:28] <Riddell> I do
[08:28] <jeramy> Cooll
[08:28] <Riddell> well, it's better than what it had before
[08:29] <jeramy> Agreed.  KDE 3 was a huge step forward in terms of looks.
[08:35] <Riddell> amu: kdeedu has had gcc 4 fixes today or yesterday, take a look at kde-cvs and pick them out
[08:36] <amu> Riddell: thx 4info randomly picked up them
[08:37] <amu> someone without work :) ? 
[08:37] <Riddell> amu: done by the SuSE packager actually
[08:38] <Riddell> a lot more friendly than the red hat packagers who don't send their fixes back
[08:39] <amu> sure in this case suse is cool, i'm all time looking for the latest sourceCD's :) 
[08:39] <froud> Hi, just tried adding a wlan pcmcia to my laptop I got the Atheros chipset working no problem, but the card is recognized as eth1 (should this not be wlan0)
[08:40] <Riddell> froud: depends how the driver is written, my wifi card is eth1
[08:40] <froud> also even though I use knetworkconf for config of IP etc, it only has the address and netmask I could not define values such as gateway broadcast etc
[08:41] <froud> I had to manuall edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:41] <froud> to get it working
[08:41] <froud> for some reason each time I used knetworkconf the gateway and the nameserver info was not added to the iface in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:41] <Riddell> froud: hmm, I think there's a bugzilla report for that.  knetworkconf need testing
[08:42] <froud> Ok, so it is a known problem
[08:42] <froud> Thanks
[08:42] <amu> froud: eth/wlan no prob 
[08:42] <Riddell> lamont-away: what's wrong with it?
[08:42] <amu> lamont-away: dbus-qt at least 
[08:43] <froud> Riddell: btw, we have a kubuntu kwick guide in svn that is looking very good and we have a installation guide
[08:43] <lamont> dh_install -pkdm
[08:43] <lamont> cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess': No such file or directory
[08:43] <lamont> does it maybe look at DEB_* variables to decide what to do?
[08:43] <froud> Riddell: will have it ready soon so you can upload then to the web site :-)
[08:43] <Riddell> froud: excellent, great news
[08:44] <froud> Ok c ya back to work
[08:47] <Riddell> lamont: should be just a generated file, I'll take a look
[09:11] <lamont> dear kubuntu-meta guy.  next time you upload, please add hppa to the list of architectures from ports.ubuntu.com.  kthxbye
[09:16] <KaiL> ia64, sparc, hppa 
[09:16] <KaiL> what's next? my toaster? :)
[09:18] <jeramy> yup
[09:57] <Riddell> haggai: could you op on #kubuntu
[10:18] <Riddell> technical board meeting now in #ubuntu-meeting, community meeting in 2 hours
[10:21] <uniq> maybe i should try for membership.. 
[10:21] <Riddell> uniq: do you have a wiki page?
[10:21] <uniq> riddell: yes.. 
[10:21] <uniq> wiki.ubuntu.com/FrodeDoeving
[10:21] <Riddell> of course, I've seen it
[10:21] <uniq> :)
[10:23] <Riddell> uniq: add yourself to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CommunityCouncilAgenda and go for it
[10:24] <uniq> ok. if you say so :)
[10:24] <Riddell> think up something good in answer to "tell us about yourself and why you'd like to help ubuntu"
[10:24] <uniq> heh.
[10:24] <uniq> ok.
[10:25] <Riddell> and "because debian new maintainer process is too much work" isn't an answer :)
[10:26] <uniq> haha.. :)
[10:29] <doko> Riddell, the kdebase build failure looks like some xorg reorganisation ...
[10:30] <doko> maybe wait for daniels
[10:31] <jeramy> Did it fail today?  I built it a couple of days ago no problem.
[10:32] <Riddell> jeramy: new KDE version, new X bits
[10:33] <Riddell> and I can't get pbuilder to work due to depends not happy
[10:33] <Riddell> well I just uploaded a new version
[10:36] <amu> uniq: i've a special request for you: http://kpod.sourceforge.net/ipodslave/
[10:37] <uniq> amu: ok.. nice.. i'd have to by an ipod then.. i guess :)
[10:38] <amu> uniq: could you package it please 
[10:38] <doko> "just uploading" is bad ...
[10:38] <Riddell> doko: agreed, what's the best way to test?
[10:39] <uniq> amu: i'll take a look at it.. currently fighting with kdar.. but i think i'll put it on hold.. some c++ strangeness i can't figure out.. right now.
[10:40] <amu> uniq: cool, no prob there's no timelinit, just nice to have, asked maybe you hang boring around and you dont know what to do ;)   
[10:40] <doko> Riddell, the dependencies should be fine again
[10:42] <uniq> amu: good :)