=== Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:10] jbailey: how is EarlyUserspace coming along? [12:10] mdz: do you know if last year's bounty budget rolled over into this year? [12:11] mdz: it seems the one who's not working here is me. [12:12] huh? === bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp0012067827pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:13] does OOo2 crash in breezy if you touch the menus [12:13] kiko: we were talking on pvt. He corrected me, and I said that it didn't seem to work. But what does not work seems to be my brain after all that coffee... [12:13] heh :) [12:14] bluefoxicy, probably, its breezy :-P [12:15] robertj: not exactly, why? [12:15] bluefoxicy, things are supposed to crash from time to time for your entertainment :) [12:15] mdz: just haven't heard alot about bounties [12:15] surak: I am glad that it is working for you now [12:15] robertj: you'll hear a lot more about bounties this week [12:15] good [12:15] soon after I dig myself out of my email pit === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:15] robertj: if there's something specific you'd like to work on, contact me at any time [12:16] hehe, no there's not [12:16] I was just curious [12:16] I stick to php stuff mostly === surak has a lot to learn. I'll put irc to an speech engine and leave it loud all night long, like that tv memory courses: "learn while you sleep at #ubuntu-devel" [12:16] bluefoxicy, which arch is that ? [12:16] ogra: I need to write a resume [12:16] ogra: 386 [12:16] hmm.. [12:17] bluefoxicy, OOo 1.x too ? === robertj is goign to give another go at cupid when hist dist-upgrade finishes [12:18] surak, lol.... record it and sell the tapes if it worked ;) [12:19] who on those tv shows care if something works or not? I'll sell it anyway! :-) [12:19] heh [12:20] ogra: don't have 1.x [12:20] bluefoxicy, hmm but it could be a fallback if its urgent.... [12:20] ogra: it doens't have opendoc format [12:20] oh, ok === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra uses vi for his texts === bluefoxicy uses formatting when he gets e-mail from *@fbi.gov [12:21] sometimes you just want it to look nice. === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp0012067827pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["That's] [12:30] surely getting e-mails from @nid.gov is better? :p [12:31] can someone take a look at this bug? I don't think the use meant to assign it to themselves [12:31] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11122 [12:35] xorg_6.8.2-18 will need a kick to build? === mvo goes to bed now [12:39] 'night mvo [12:39] mvo: night :-) [12:40] night guys :) [12:42] mdz: Where are you? [12:42] I mean, your geographic location [12:42] surak, LA. [12:42] ok [12:42] tks Kiko === jcole [~jcole@atlwebproxy1.core.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Baby [~nena@baby.kavi.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:44] Baby: wb! :-) [12:44] thanks Nafallo :)) [12:47] surak: as kiko says, I'm in LA (UTC-7) [12:47] Kamion gave me the impression I'm always late to talk with him :-) and told me you would be in a better timeframe. === jljes [~agp@cm-80.111.96.084.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] kiko: I did it man [12:50] I DID IT [12:51] jordi: photos! [12:52] jordi! [12:52] JORDI! [12:52] woooo! [12:52] doko: hmm, none of the race with me right now, my flatmate has them [12:52] ? [12:53] jordi, tell us all about this [12:53] I have a sexy one of the prize I got tho [12:53] kiko: I have a blog entry ready to be scp'd! === camilotelles [~camilot@200164133059.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:54] do it [12:54] jordi: you live! [12:55] ajmitch: I actually have no pain in my legs todayh. It's pretty weird [12:56] well done :) [12:57] let me boot that lappy to get the story out [12:57] and the pic from the cam [12:57] I also fixed a RC bug for Sarge yesterday [12:57] introduced a new one, which I just fixed. [12:57] Isn't that great === herzi [~herzi@c220060.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] ogra, still up? if i know you... [01:04] ENOMVI [01:04] MVO even [01:04] aptitude doesn't like 64-bit architectures === _Legion_ [~adebarbar@labi.fi.uba.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] Build-Depends: mozilla-dev (<< 2:1.7.7.0) [01:05] GAH [01:06] enigmail has bad buildd-epends === bradb [~bradb@modemcable087.14-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] lamont: mozilla did FTFBS on ia64 [01:10] doko: the issue is that enigmail build-depends on a version older than that currently found in the archive. === lamont bets that libao needs dpkg-love [01:12] no, just a rebuild, libarts name did change [01:12] fixing ... [01:13] kewlness [01:15] lamont: could xorg be kicked or shall I try to see if it builds locally first? [01:15] Nafallo: it is ftbfs [01:16] lamont: even since libx{au,dmcp} is rebuilt? [01:16] hrm... /me kicks it for giggles [01:16] :-) === robertj ahhs after finding a nice python wrapper for howl [01:22] howl is non-free and evil :) [01:22] jordi: what's the blessed equivanelt then ;) [01:23] robertj: the world awaits your contribution! [01:23] none yet afaik. [01:30] lamont: kicked locally to :-) === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC084B.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sto_ [~sto@224.Red-80-59-203.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:51] lamont: atleast it [01:51] damn enter [01:52] lamont: atleast it's not the same builderror ;-) [01:52] Nafallo: heh === gyroform [~gyro@129.142.34.163] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:54] amu: what does "final package" mean in your qt-x11-free changelog? [01:57] good question, right, would be better to put all changes visiable [02:00] good night all! === blahrus [hybqj@12-223-50-121.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jcole [~jcole@atlwebproxy1.core.hp.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === astro76 [~james@pcp05911023pcs.elztwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso [~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chris38-home [~Christian@82.127.81.96] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pizzathief [~Ilikepizz@adsl-130-26.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mrzero [~ole@orwen.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mrzero [~ole@orwen.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-137-77-155.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:31] back later [02:38] holy crap my internet connection is slow [02:38] somebody should look a bit at "installation without any network configuration", there seam to be billions of bugs === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] night [02:51] night === surak [~kurumin@200.128.80.254] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === bradb [~bradb@modemcable087.14-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:03] g'day bradb [03:05] hi === zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-4-043-090.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ghpolo [~polo@201.10.94.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:57] hello [04:02] daniels: you duped 11127 to 1421, which seams to be about fallback for no ddc infos [04:02] that's wrong, 11127 is about screens, who really want such stipid resolutions [04:02] KaiL_: it's not wrong at all [04:02] KaiL_: if we get 60Hz, it's because we had to guess at a refresh rate [04:02] nop [04:02] and that's going to happen because we're on amd64, and have no way to do DDC probing there yet [04:03] unless you meant something other than what you wrote in the bug report [04:03] what I mean is on i386 [04:03] some screens (as my 15" CRT here) really list "1280x1024@60Hz" in ddcprobe [04:04] right [04:04] and that get's used [04:04] not usually [04:04] I had "more than enough" such in #kubuntu ;) [04:04] xresprobe only gives you the *second* highest resolution [04:05] so if 1280x1024@60 is the highest and 1024x768@80 is the second-highest, it'll use 1024x768@80 [04:05] and this second is what get's used? [04:05] if 1280x1024@80 is the highest and 1280x1024@60 is the second-highest, it'll use 1280x1024@80 [04:05] yes [04:05] then why I get 1280@60Hz? :) === A_Alam [~a_alam@202.41.228.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:12] does the 1x1 tell me something interesting in xresprobe? [04:12] KaiL_: how did you configure your server? [04:12] 1x1 tells you things went really, really badly [04:12] nothing manually [04:13] oh [04:14] like "monitor sends nonsence"? [04:16] m vogt is mvo no? [04:16] yes. [04:17] ok, I don;t see him here [04:17] ok, dumb question. Is wxpython in Ubuntu/Debian linked against GTK1.x? [04:17] KaiL_: either that or my regexp is broke, yeah [04:19] Burgundavia: two different answers. [04:19] hmm, but ddcprobe find's something [04:19] Burgundavia: in Ubuntu Hoary, they're built against gtk2 [04:19] Burgundavia: wxwidgets 2.5 has been removed from Debian [04:20] lol, "timing: 1280x1024@75 (VESA)" [04:20] Burgundavia: in Ubuntu and Debian both, wxwindows (2.4) is built against 1.2 [04:20] ah [04:20] so the program needs to link against 2.5? === KaiL_ doesn't belive that this works ;) [04:21] Burgundavia: if you're using wxpython2.5.3, yes [04:22] ok [04:22] hmm [04:23] 2.4 & 2.5 can have a slightly differentA PI in some places [04:23] daniels: there we have the 1x1: "dtiming 1x1@642500" [04:24] somebody should send MS 100 firmware coders - after one week they have destroyed windows totally [04:25] are we talkign python 2.5? the dev version? [04:26] daniels: so your regex isn't broken, the firmware coder was just an idiot [04:27] Burgundavia: I was talking about wxwidgets 2.5 (compiled against gtk2 in Ubuntu) and wxpython 2.5 [04:27] KaiL_: oh dear [04:27] Burgundavia: the latter can be made to link against any version of python, though by default that should be 2.4 [04:28] i should blacklist that [04:28] the problem why xresprobe lists 1280 (the highest..) isn't solved [04:32] crimsun, the problem is that then wxpython stuff looks like ass, becuase it is gtk1.2 [04:32] Burgundavia: err, in Ubuntu Hoary/universe? [04:32] yes [04:33] Burgundavia: hmm, so apt-cache depends must be lying [04:33] both hoary and breezy show the issue [04:43] crimsun, so is the bug in the application or in wxwidgets? [04:44] Burgundavia: afaict, wxpython 2.5 links against wxgtk 2.5 which links against gtk 2 [04:44] Burgundavia: what application? [04:45] londonlaw, only available in breezy [04:46] there's nothing wrong [04:46] londonlaw links against wxpython 2.4, which links against wxwindows 2.4, which links against gtk 1.2 === Burgundavia thinks that applications that look like gtk1.x are a bug [04:47] heh [04:48] I think I noticed it with jsconfigurator as well [04:48] as soon as Ron pushes wxwidgets 2.6 into Sid/experimental, it's time to ask for a sink [04:48] s/sink/sync [04:48] sinking feeling? [04:48] is there actual code changes to programs to make them work with 2.5 instead of 2.4? [04:49] usually no [04:49] 2.5 is compiled with abi compat with 2.4 [04:49] so 2.5 does the messy work of moving from 1.x to 2.x? [04:50] for gtk, yes, but don't use 2.5 or Ron will scream at you [04:50] ok, why is that? [04:50] particularly since he has been hassled about 2.6 enough [04:50] that and the license issue that caused 2.5 to be ripped out of Debian === aisipos [~anton@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:50] so once 2.6 comes out, we are going to have to manually rebuild all python packages to use 2.6? [04:51] s/python/wxwidget [04:51] no, because that's built as part of wxwidgets 2.6 source [04:51] oh, packages that depend on wxpython? [04:51] probably [04:51] but apps like londonlaw?\ [04:51] ok [04:51] sign me up! [04:52] 2.5 isn't always compatible with 2.4, I've found [04:52] ajmitch: sadly [04:52] ok, so there will be some upstream development needed [04:52] what was the licence issue? [04:52] plus there's talk of introducing an abi-incompat change into 2.6 (!) [04:53] so some people are hassling for a version bump to 2.8 (!) [04:53] it's all quite mad [04:54] Burgundavia: Debian#305300 [04:54] ok, so a quite rundown. 2.6 is coming into debian and we will need to rebuild packages against it to get gtk2.x stuff. 2.5 didn't get into debian becuase of license issues. === shaya [~spotter@user-0ccembr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:57] it was in Debian, but it will not be in Sarge [04:58] ok === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-137-77-155.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Micksa [~mslade@203-217-18-166.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === parker00 [~parker@211.229.110.185] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Robinho_Peixoto [~robinho@200164023071.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === parker00 [~parker@211.229.110.185] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === lamont fixes samba, cursing (but only a little) dpkg === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-229.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === torkel [torkel@shaka.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:39] lamont : What was broken with samba? [06:40] dpkg love [06:41] DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE := $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE| sed 's/linux$$/linux-gnu/') [06:41] ,,, [06:41] and then fix the if below to look for linux-gnu [06:42] that's the current "traditional" fix for things that have suddenly stopped delivering lots of pieces of themselves [06:43] lamont : Have you uploaded that fix yet? [06:43] if you're lucky, the build fails. If you're not, then the package does a good job of only deciding what should be there once... [06:43] just barely [06:43] Ahh, kay. [06:43] Did you merge with Debian at the same time? [06:43] uh.... 34.0.14a-1ubuntu2 [06:43] what's debian ahve? [06:43] Kay, no then. :) I'll merge later. [06:43] infinity: hey, is the apache2 pcre patch that you backported from 2.1 online anywhere? [06:44] (Just one revision higher in Debian, but it's an icky bug) [06:44] dilinger : The one from HEAD, or ours? [06:44] infinity: and we need to pester keybuk and find out what verbage to file in the bug in debian for fixing it...) [06:44] dilinger : Ours is obviously online, in the source package. [06:44] infinity: i was hoping for a link that i could put in the upstream bug report [06:45] 'cause people are reopening the bug [06:45] linking to a diff.gz is suboptimal [06:45] infinity: you should drop that on patches.ubuntu.com [06:45] Ahh. Well, extract it and put it in your people.d.o space, then. [06:45] infinity: then it doesn't stay up-to-date === lamont wishes again that lunchpad was online [06:46] dilinger : How up-to-date does it need to be?... It's tracking a stable release. [06:46] s/lunch/launch/ [06:46] Mmm... lunchpad. === infinity is hungry. === lamont is sleepy [06:46] mirror-missing | wc -l [06:46] 150 :-( [06:46] dilinger : I need to forward-port my backport back to HEAD anyway, and submit my changes to Joe for 2.1 [06:46] dilinger : If you're feeling bored... [06:47] *cough* [06:47] infinity: dude, i'm done w/ that crap ;p [06:47] if someone is really bored, I could use gcj support in ccache [06:47] dilinger : Heh. Fair enough. I'll find me a round tuit sometime before 2.2 releases, I'm sure. [06:47] esp since doko keeps uploading gcc-* [06:47] i have no desire to do any sort of long term maintenance on it === hunger_ [~hunger@p54A6796B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:13] fabbione, are you around? [07:13] tritium: yes [07:14] fabbione, there's some discussion in #ubuntu regarding kernel panics after the kernel security updates, and a thread on the forums. [07:15] tritium: open a bug with all the info [07:15] usual procedure [07:15] usual info required. [07:16] fabbione, okay. === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax6-202.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === |zzzzz [~opera@ppp2B95.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rjo [~jordens@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:38] eww [07:38] in firefox in hoary [07:38] if you open an unknown file you get a XUL error [07:38] (in this case, a .tiff) === _Legion_ [~adebarbar@labi.fi.uba.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:42] http://bur.st/~lathiat/firefox-xul-error.png === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [07:52] Lathiat : Can you file a bug? [07:52] Lathiat : I'll look at it later. [07:52] Lathiat : Assign the bug to adconrad@ubuntu.com [08:00] infinity: ok [08:03] infinity: oh man [08:03] infinity: its *really* broken [08:03] the download manager doesnt work either [08:05] Lathiat: You went from breezy breakage to hoary breakage, nice. [08:05] Amaranth: oh yeh === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:11] Amaranth: im still terrified of pressing random shortcut keys :) [08:11] hehe, i've gotten used to using the mouse for everything in gedit [08:11] that's the only app i use that i've had to change my habits in though [08:12] heh [08:12] ^-shift-t in g-t is what bites me most === jarjar_must_die [~CoreTex@adsl-69-110-36-51.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:12] new tab, closes the window instead? [08:12] yeh [08:12] i don't do tabbed g-t, so i'm ok there [08:12] i dont use it that often [08:12] but i do it to do random things quickly === xuzo [~xuzo@81-203-41-93.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:15] nothing like a 1am phone call to scare the shit out of you [08:15] i thought someone died [08:18] tut tut Amaranth [08:18] smeg died. :) [08:18] ha [08:18] err, that's not possible [08:19] pygtk keeps it running when when you get an exception [08:19] by died i mean spat out a backtrace :) [08:19] gimme? [08:19] http://www.squaa.org/smeg.txt [08:19] trying to add an entry [08:19] fucking hell firefox is *totally* broken [08:20] bookmarks windows dont work either [08:20] i assume everything is plain farked [08:20] that's a fucked up backtrace [08:20] maybe i should go get the backports version ;) [08:20] it skips from one part of the code to another that aren't related [08:20] making you think .get_active() is causing the error [08:20] heh [08:21] where were you creating the entry at? [08:21] what menu did you have selected? [08:21] clicked on sound &video [08:21] new entry [08:21] put in details [08:21] hit ok [08:21] nothing happened [08:21] that spat out === Amaranth tries to reproduce [08:23] *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid next size: 0x085c67b0 *** [08:23] Aborted [08:23] eek [08:23] uh, ouch [08:23] your problem is reproducable, mine isn't === A_Alam [~a_alam@202.41.228.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:26] fuck, i forgot a True [08:27] change line 205 of /usr/lib/smeg/MenuHandler.py to xmlparent = self.getMenuFromPath(path, True) [08:27] err, that's 204, i have a debug print in there [08:27] that'll do until i release 0.6.1 [08:27] need to figure out how to load KDE icons to do that [08:27] :) cool [08:28] heh [08:28] or maybe not, i dunno [08:28] im a sick sick puppy [08:29] im syncing maildir from my server to my laptop [08:29] then running a local imap server so thunderbird can read it [08:29] yes, yes you are === Amaranth hopes Matt Kynaston doesn't hate him [08:30] he sent me a MenuEditor class he thought i'd like to use then disappeared [08:30] The class kinda sucked but i took some methods from it for my MenuHandler. I gave him credit, but it's licensed under the GPL and his code didn't actually have a license with it. === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-146-76.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:45] Morning [08:46] morning pitti [08:49] daniels: fontconfig.org seems fucked. [08:49] (dns-wise) [08:50] hah, which isn't so surprising when it only has one dns server [08:50] that server should be alright though (gabe) [08:50] Name Server:NS.KEITHP.COM [08:50] (which is unreachable) [08:50] oh dear, no [08:50] right [08:50] yeah, that's the end of his DSL line [08:51] hah [08:51] <\sh> morning gentlemen [08:51] hey pitti [08:52] pitti: rumors are that one of the security fixes is making OOPSorama on hoary :/ === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:52] fabbione: sounds like fun [08:52] but i can't see how and why. nobody gave me info yet (other than rumors) [08:52] fabbione: did you see the abi thing too? [08:52] fabbione: bah, hardware problem [08:52] daniels: yes. the abi is ok [08:53] fabbione: ok, cool [08:53] daniels: the check is done automatically at build time, otherwise FTBFS === herzi [~herzi@c220060.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] trulux: when you are here, please ping me back, we need to talk about the patch again [09:27] pitti: have you packaged the LUKS tools already (or: are you planning to?) === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] Treenaks: dist-upgrade, plugin your encrypted stick and watch the magic happen... :-) [09:35] Treenaks: i. e. yes [09:35] pitti: I mean the "other side" [09:36] pitti: i.e.: how do I create an encrypted stick :) [09:36] Treenaks: cryptsetup has the LUKS extension, pmount calls it transparently, and g-v-m asks you for a passphrase and forwards it to pmount [09:36] Treenaks: ah [09:36] Treenaks: there is not yet a GUI tool for that [09:36] Treenaks: sudo cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/foo [09:36] pitti: ok, "cryptsetup has the LUKS extension" was the missing piece of my puzzle === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:36] Treenaks: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/foo mystick [09:37] thanks :) [09:37] Treenaks: sudo mkfs.XXXX /dev/mapper/foo [09:37] ok [09:37] Treenaks: I recently discovered that we don't even have a GUI tool to format things other than floppies [09:38] Treenaks: somebody should write a nice pygtk thingy which calls mkfs.* on a device and supports encryption [09:38] pitti, why not extend the floppy formatter? [09:38] make it generic [09:39] Burgundavia: skipping "known" (i.e. mounted partitions), probably? [09:39] Burgundavia: and using HAL to get a list of "formatable" devices? [09:39] yes [09:39] floppy formatter died on me (i don't have a floppy drive on my laptop) [09:40] as formatting a floppy is really the same operation as formatting a stick, from the users perspective [09:40] Burgundavia: clearing a CD-RW might as well be the same too [09:40] good point [09:41] from a user pov [09:41] well, if the interface is tweaked a bit to just display the density dropdown if you actually have a floppy, that might be easier, yes [09:41] it should automagically figure out the density and type [09:41] Treenaks: n-cd-burner, and probably other tools as well, automatically clean a cd-rw [09:42] pitti: HAL is pretty clear on that right? ('this is a floppy drive' etc0 [09:42] Burgundavia: well, I can't run Ubuntu on machines that still have low-density drives anyway :-) [09:42] pitti: I have a 5.25" floppy drive -- still works [09:42] wow [09:42] for floppies that we can't figure it out, then it should offer the most common but have a list of the others [09:43] jsgotangco: I even have floppies.. we need a GWBASIC compatible BASIC interpeter! :) [09:43] Treenaks: " storage.drive_type = 'floppy' (string)" [09:43] pitti: so that's easy [09:43] Treenaks: but no hint about the size [09:44] pitti: hm.. that should probably be added then? [09:44] Treenaks: btw, if you test encrypted stuff, you can't unmount them properly in gnome yet [09:44] Treenaks: you have to use pumount for now, I only uploaded g-v-m yesterday night [09:44] pitti: I have to use pumount anyway, because hald crashes when I plug in my GPS [09:45] ah, that bug... [09:45] the 239-entry backtrace, yes :) [09:46] Treenaks: it seems easy to fix, just no time yet... [09:47] #1 0x08057695 in hal_property_new_string (key=0x8068c70 "info.product", value=0x0) at property.c:86 [09:47] ^ null string for value, and it calls a function on it [09:47] ah.. the string is empty/non-existent [09:47] "To test LUKS, you can use loop to make a blockdev out of any container file. The only requirement is that it's larger than 1mb." --> cool, 1.44M floppies work ;) === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-50-235.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:57] Hey carlos, seb128 [09:58] morning [09:58] Treenaks: I'm not at fixing hal, I'll fix that at a very low level to catch similar issues as well [09:59] pitti: ok [09:59] Treenaks: argh, s/not/now/ [09:59] pitti: even more ok :) === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [~Simira@179.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:03] Treenaks: are you on i386? [10:04] pitti: yes [10:04] Treenaks: okay, I give you test debs in a minute [10:04] pitti: but I'm not near the machine now, and the card isn't plugged in [10:04] ah, too bad [10:04] Treenaks: well, then I just upload [10:04] I *know* my fix must be right *hehe* [10:04] ;) [10:07] hey pitti ! [10:11]