| ivoks | time for bed... | 12:01 |
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| ivoks | bye all | 12:01 |
| \sh | ivoks: no u go tu #u-m | 12:01 |
| \sh | now;) | 12:02 |
| ogra | \sh, i'm already doing that... | 12:02 |
| ivoks | ? | 12:02 |
| ivoks | :_ | 12:02 |
| \sh | go to ;) | 12:02 |
| ogra | \sh, with a bottle of merlot | 12:02 |
| \sh | ogra: argl.. | 12:02 |
| ivoks | \sh: ? | 12:02 |
| \sh | ivoks: u have to go to ubuntu-meeting ;) as u said ;) not to bed;) | 12:02 |
| ivoks | i'm allready there | 12:03 |
| ivoks | noone is talking ::))) | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: we said, it's tomorrow ;) | 12:03 |
| Unfrgiven | alright guys in that case i'm going to go to work.... no point staying home if the meeting isn't on! :) | 12:03 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: i know | 12:03 |
| ivoks | i'm joking with \sh | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | bye Unfrgiven | 12:03 |
| \sh | cu Unfrgiven | 12:03 |
| Unfrgiven | i just had to send my manager an email saying i got the day wrong! :) | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | poor chap | 12:04 |
| Unfrgiven | indeed... | 12:04 |
| Unfrgiven | cya all later | 12:04 |
| \sh | ubuntu addicted | 12:04 |
| ivoks | welll... bye | 12:04 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: they dont call it crack for nothing! | 12:04 |
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| \sh | Unfrgiven: hmmm | 12:05 |
| \sh | ok.gents..for it's also time to say good night..no mail to my manager, but managing to go to bad :) | 12:07 |
| \sh | "me" is missing | 12:07 |
| \sh | g'night | 12:07 |
| Mithrandir | sleep tight | 12:08 |
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| Burgundavia | is this CXX related? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11123 | 01:16 |
| lamont | what is the cdbs target to unpack and patch source? | 01:20 |
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| jamessan | then why use cdbs? | 01:49 |
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| jbailey | lamont: apply-patches | 02:25 |
| jbailey | lamont: (assuming that it's simple-patchsys, and not patch and quilt) | 02:25 |
| jbailey | lamont: We really need to unify all of those. | 02:25 |
| lamont | jbailey: ok. :-) | 02:26 |
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| tseng | hi | 04:35 |
| crimsun | hi | 04:36 |
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| tritium | hi crimsun | 05:53 |
| crimsun | lo tritium | 05:53 |
| tritium | How are things? | 05:55 |
| crimsun | not bad, yourself? | 05:58 |
| tritium | Not bad, thanks. | 05:58 |
| crimsun | great | 05:58 |
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| Amaranth | woo, smeg passes lintian with no errors or warnings | 06:59 |
| Amaranth | once pyxdg 0.11 gets into main i'll have to find someone to sponsor it | 07:00 |
| ajmitch | it shouldn't be hard to find a willing sponsor | 07:00 |
| Burgundavia | Amaranth, smeg is very nice, probably nicer than the default gnome one | 07:02 |
| Amaranth | Burgundavia: that's the plan :) | 07:02 |
| Burgundavia | Amaranth, what is it written in? can gnome use it by default? | 07:02 |
| Amaranth | python | 07:02 |
| Burgundavia | what is the status of python in gnome, I am little confused | 07:03 |
| Amaranth | i doubt gnome would use it by default, it uses pyxdg instead of the gnome-menus python bindings | 07:03 |
| Amaranth | well, the one in GNOME is written in python too... | 07:03 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 07:03 |
| Amaranth | plus mark likes simple simple editor and i don't think he wants to step on any toes | 07:03 |
| Burgundavia | but smeg is actually simpler as a UI than the gnome one | 07:04 |
| Amaranth | so gnome-menu-editor and smeg are going for advanced users and gmenu-simple-edit goes for simple uses | 07:04 |
| Amaranth | err, 0.6 looks just like the one in gnome :D | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | I think python is encouraged & allowed in GNOME now | 07:05 |
| Amaranth | python is the only high-level language that is allowed right now, afaik | 07:05 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 07:05 |
| Burgundavia | I suspect ruby may be the next one, which would be nice | 07:06 |
| Burgundavia | as Java/Mono is tied up to language holywars | 07:06 |
| Amaranth | Burgundavia: http://www.realistanew.com/images/smeg/smeg-0.6.png | 07:06 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, I saw a one-paned menu editor | 07:08 |
| Burgundavia | was that the old smeg? | 07:08 |
| Amaranth | You mean http://www.realistanew.com/images/smeg/smeg-0.5.png ? | 07:11 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 07:12 |
| Burgundavia | why did you dump the one pane? | 07:12 |
| Amaranth | people seemed to not like it | 07:12 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, I happen to like the concept, much simpler | 07:13 |
| Amaranth | yeah, i think it was more "spatial" | 07:13 |
| Burgundavia | and cleaner | 07:13 |
| Burgundavia | but people are really tied to the 2 pane idea | 07:13 |
| Amaranth | yeah, plus it makes my life easier having two seperate TreeViews | 07:14 |
| Amaranth | as far as coding, i mean | 07:14 |
| Amaranth | DnD would have been a PITA with the one pane | 07:14 |
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| \sh | morning | 08:51 |
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| ivoks | morning | 08:53 |
| ivoks | ah, time for americas army :) | 08:53 |
| ivoks | there's nothing better then blod, guns and killing in 9AM | 08:53 |
| \sh | hmmm...i think it's a good time to start the day with a cup of coffee | 09:03 |
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| Nafallo | hi all! | 10:41 |
| \sh | ogra:ping | 10:46 |
| ogra | \sh, pong | 10:49 |
| \sh | ogra: i hope this try will be the last try for dar | 10:51 |
| ogra | oki... i'll look at it soo, just let me finish my 150 mails.... | 10:51 |
| \sh | ogra: yeah..no hurry. | 10:52 |
| \sh | making some party mood inside the NOC with "wir sind papst" *sing* | 10:52 |
| \sh | strike...diff looks nice | 10:57 |
| \sh | let me grab a cup of coffee and after this i will upload the diff to bugzilla | 10:58 |
| \sh | ogra: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=2496 | 11:14 |
| elmo | GUYS | 11:14 |
| ogra | elmo | 11:15 |
| \sh | where? | 11:15 |
| elmo | PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE triple check your dput.cf/dupload.confs and DON'T UPLOAD ubuntu packages to Debian | 11:15 |
| elmo | \sh: that means _you_ dude :P | 11:15 |
| \sh | elmo: hmm it's an error of dput | 11:15 |
| ogra | \sh, lots of ubuntu devs are developing for debian | 11:15 |
| elmo | ogra: nevertheless, we should fix our dput and dupload to default to ubuntu | 11:16 |
| elmo | having misplaced uploads for debian by ubuntu folks end up in our queue is a lot less painful than the reverse | 11:16 |
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| ogra | elmo, i'll fix it during the day.... | 11:16 |
| elmo | thanks | 11:16 |
| \sh | i tried to dput local and didn't have mini-dinstall installed | 11:17 |
| \sh | and I saw "upload packages" | 11:17 |
| \sh | but normally dput should ignore those uploads..cause .dputrc was in my home..strange | 11:17 |
| \sh | sorry | 11:17 |
| ogra | \sh, on the Uploads wikipage re the tweaks you have to make :) | 11:17 |
| \sh | ogra: that wasn't the issue | 11:18 |
| \sh | [local] | 11:18 |
| \sh | fqdn = localhost | 11:18 |
| \sh | method = local | 11:18 |
| \sh | incoming = /home/shermann/archive/mini-dinstall/incoming | 11:18 |
| \sh | allow_unsigned_uploads = 1 | 11:18 |
| ogra | btw, the patch looks good now | 11:18 |
| \sh | post_upload_command = mini-dinstall --batch | 11:18 |
| \sh | this is my .dput.cf | 11:18 |
| \sh | but "mini-dinstall" wasn't installed in my chroot of breezy | 11:18 |
| \sh | so i did a dput local <mypackage> and normally it should complain only that mini-dinstall is not installed and do nothing | 11:18 |
| \sh | but I think he took the global config for it | 11:19 |
| \sh | I'm really sorry about it...please tell all the debian devs my appologies | 11:19 |
| \sh | next time the beer goes on my account | 11:19 |
| \sh | ogra: the rules file was quite funny | 11:20 |
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| ogra | \sh, you dont need to apologize to the debian devs, only to te ftp master who has to handle it ;) | 11:20 |
| \sh | ogra: it doesn't matter to whom I have to tell my appologies..it's annonying | 11:21 |
| \sh | ogra: and it's quite bad that I was the one :( | 11:22 |
| ogra | nah | 11:22 |
| \sh | I'm taking it personally ;) | 11:22 |
| ogra | youre not the only one | 11:22 |
| \sh | ogra: Now I know what happened..so i can avoid it in the future | 11:26 |
| ogra | good | 11:26 |
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| \sh | but it's really strange that it takes the default upload config even if there is a local dput.cf | 11:28 |
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| Burgundavia | siretart, ping | 11:34 |
| siretart | Burgundavia: pong | 11:34 |
| siretart | but I'm having lecture, and gotta leave in 10min | 11:35 |
| Burgundavia | siretart, regarding londonlaw | 11:35 |
| Burgundavia | siretart, shall I email you? | 11:35 |
| siretart | Burgundavia: if you don't mind, that'll be great! | 11:35 |
| Burgundavia | siretart, np | 11:35 |
| siretart | Burgundavia: I've read your suggestions on londonlaw-users ;) | 11:36 |
| siretart | \sh: will you attend the TB meeting this evening? | 11:38 |
| \sh | siretart: yes | 11:38 |
| Burgundavia | siretart, you also subscribed? saw my flood? | 11:39 |
| Burgundavia | siretart, sent | 11:39 |
| siretart | \sh: I want to attend to, but I'm won't make in on time. I will come at about 2030-2045. would you excuse me please? | 11:39 |
| siretart | Burgundavia: yes. much work for paul :) | 11:40 |
| \sh | siretart: sure np... | 11:40 |
| Burgundavia | once I get inkscape working, some work for me too | 11:40 |
| siretart | Burgundavia: I read your email, will comment on both suggestions. (already have thoughts about them) | 11:41 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 11:41 |
| Burgundavia | I like causing people work | 11:41 |
| siretart | \sh: thanks | 11:42 |
| Burgundavia | siretart, discovered the crownandcutlass FTBFS, he is using hardcoded nvidia only links | 11:43 |
| siretart | Burgundavia: :( | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | there is some discussion about it on their forums, and possible fix, but I didn't play with it | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | as SDL is currently done on my machine | 11:43 |
| \sh | ogra: how is the status of gnome-powermanager thingy | 11:49 |
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| \sh | ogra: I'm a lucky guy | 01:01 |
| ogra | good for you then ;-P | 01:01 |
| ogra | ;) | 01:01 |
| ogra | but why ? | 01:02 |
| \sh | ogra: i will get some furniture on friday for free ;) | 01:02 |
| ogra | heh... | 01:02 |
| \sh | desk, settees, table, chairs etc. :) | 01:03 |
| \sh | those guys from wds-tech they're renewing their office and everything in there right now, they deliver it to me ;) | 01:04 |
| ogra | great :) | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | hi ogra, \sh | 01:04 |
| \sh | hey ajmitch | 01:06 |
| ogra | is anybody here using dput ? | 01:08 |
| \sh | yep | 01:08 |
| thom | yes | 01:08 |
| ogra | is there a default host setting like in dupload anywhere ? | 01:08 |
| thom | yeah, in the config file | 01:09 |
| \sh | /etc/dput.cf | 01:09 |
| ogra | i got it open here do i add ubuntu to default_host_main then ? | 01:09 |
| thom | yes | 01:09 |
| ogra | ah, thanks... | 01:09 |
| ogra | thom, so why dont you like <blink> tags ? | 01:11 |
| \sh | what is dput using if u don't give a destination for uploading? in my /etc/dput.cf there is no default_host_main set...does it use then the first host entry? (ftp-master?) | 01:11 |
| \sh | ogra: thats netscapish | 01:11 |
| ogra | so ? | 01:11 |
| thom | ogra: *evil* | 01:12 |
| \sh | ogra: they were hated sind they were invented :) | 01:12 |
| \sh | s/sind/since/ | 01:12 |
| thom | and yes, it'll use the first host entry by default | 01:12 |
| \sh | just like <marquee> from ms | 01:12 |
| \sh | thom: thats the reason why I uploaded accidently to debian :( | 01:12 |
| ogra | but its nice to have it to see the errors during scrolling | 01:12 |
| thom | just make em read; i find blink *really* hard to read | 01:13 |
| ogra | an i doubt anybody will look at our build logs with IE | 01:13 |
| thom | uh, "red" | 01:13 |
| ogra | they are red already... but i'll add a option to disable it | 01:13 |
| ogra | as i'll add a option to disable css, since fabbione doest like it :) | 01:14 |
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| \sh | argl | 01:15 |
| ogra | thesaltydog, nice that you come back | 01:15 |
| \sh | I just saw dar not compiling on amd64.. i need access to amd64 platform ;) | 01:15 |
| thesaltydog | ogra, I was just looking for you | 01:15 |
| ogra | thesaltydog, sorry that i didnt intervene enough yesterday inthe talk with herve... please dont be upset | 01:16 |
| thesaltydog | ogra, I am not upset. I simply don't want my application anymore in ubuntu.. :-) | 01:17 |
| ajmitch | that is unfortunate, why is that? | 01:19 |
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| ajmitch | hi ivoks | 01:20 |
| ivoks | hi ajmitch | 01:20 |
| ivoks | 25 kills, 3 KIA | 01:20 |
| ivoks | nice :) | 01:20 |
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| \sh | thesaltydog: which application? | 01:33 |
| doko_ | ogra: dar FTBFS | 01:34 |
| \sh | strike | 01:36 |
| \sh | http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=TROJ%5FPGPCODER%2EA&VSect=P | 01:36 |
| \sh | thats incredible | 01:36 |
| ajmitch | \sh: looks rather nasty :) | 01:39 |
| \sh | yeah | 01:39 |
| ogra | \sh, seen doko ? | 01:41 |
| \sh | but this is really, well, dangerous | 01:41 |
| \sh | ogra: toolchain or devel | 01:41 |
| ogra | \sh, <doko_> ogra: dar FTBFS | 01:41 |
| \sh | ogra: on ia64, amd64 and ppc | 01:41 |
| ogra | \sh, could you look at it ? | 01:42 |
| \sh | sure... | 01:42 |
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| \sh | <tr><td style="padding-right: 5px;" align="right"><span style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(160, 160, 160);">943</span></td><td colspan="3" style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255) none repeat scroll 0%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial;"><span style="font-size: 12px;">/build/buildd/dar-2.2.1/src/libdar/.libs/libdar.a(tools.o)(.text+0xf332): | 01:42 |
| \sh | In function `libdar::tools_name_of_gid(unsigned short)':</span></td></tr> | 01:42 |
| \sh | <tr><td style="padding-right: 5px;" align="right"><span style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(160, 160, 160);">944</span></td><td colspan="3" style="background: rgb(245, 245, 245) none repeat scroll 0%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial;"><span style="font-size: 12px;"><font color="darkorange">/build/buildd/dar-2.2.1/src/libdar/tools.cpp:412: | 01:42 |
| \sh | warning: Using 'getgrgid' in statically linked applications requires at | 01:42 |
| \sh | runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking</font></span></td></tr> | 01:42 |
| \sh | <tr><td style="padding-right: 5px;" align="right"><span style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(160, 160, 160);">945</span></td><td colspan="3" style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255) none repeat scroll 0%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial;"><span style="font-size: 12px;">/build/buildd/dar-2.2.1/src/libdar/.libs/libdar.a(tools.o)(.text+0xf882): | 01:42 |
| \sh | In function `libdar::tools_name_of_uid(unsigned short)':</span></td></tr> | 01:42 |
| \sh | <tr><td style="padding-right: 5px;" align="right"><span style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(160, 160, 160);">946</span></td><td colspan="3" style="background: rgb(245, 245, 245) none repeat scroll 0%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial;"><span style="font-size: 12px;"><font color="darkorange">/build/buildd/dar-2.2.1/src/libdar/tools.cpp:398: | 01:43 |
| \sh | warning: Using 'getpwuid' in statically linked applications requires at | 01:43 |
| ogra | \sh, hey | 01:43 |
| \sh | runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking</font></span></td></tr> | 01:43 |
| Amaranth | he can't stop | 01:43 |
| \sh | argl | 01:43 |
| ogra | obviously | 01:43 |
| \sh | sorry | 01:43 |
| \sh | *grmpf* sometimes i have kde | 01:43 |
| \sh | i hate | 01:43 |
| ajmitch | bad \sh | 01:44 |
| ogra | the above is sad, the latter i can understand ;) | 01:44 |
| ajmitch | simple fix, use gnome | 01:44 |
| ogra | yeah | 01:44 |
| \sh | well...i need access to a chroot on amd64 and ppc ;) | 01:44 |
| ajmitch | if I was rich, I'd let you ;) | 01:44 |
| ajmitch | since I'm not, I don't have amd64 or ppc | 01:45 |
| \sh | ogra: u have amd64... | 01:52 |
| ogra | \sh, i have a amd64 that shuts down after about 1min compiling | 01:53 |
| Lathiat | heh | 01:53 |
| Lathiat | need a bgruuntier fan | 01:53 |
| \sh | hmmm | 01:53 |
| \sh | does sf.net has amd64 at their compile farm? | 01:53 |
| ogra | i have hairdryer for that, but i've given up to compile on this thing if its avoidable | 01:54 |
| \sh | a | 01:54 |
| \sh | ha | 01:54 |
| \sh | reading readme helps a lot... | 01:54 |
| Lathiat | documentation is for whimps | 01:54 |
| Lathiat | real men just kick it till it works | 01:54 |
| Lathiat | this is why men dont really achieve much in general | 01:55 |
| \sh | ogra: amd64 and static linking? issues? i don't have any exp with amd64 ;) | 01:55 |
| ogra | \sh, i'll look at it if i find time... | 01:55 |
| Mithrandir | \sh: I just fixed your account on ravel | 02:00 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: what account? ,-) | 02:01 |
| Mithrandir | \sh: amd64 account, like the one you asked for the other day. | 02:01 |
| \sh | ah :) didn't read my emails | 02:01 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: thx a lot :) | 02:02 |
| Mithrandir | you know it's bad when the fstab of a host is 73 lines | 02:02 |
| Lathiat | heh | 02:02 |
| Nafallo | lol | 02:02 |
| Lathiat | how the hell did that haepmn | 02:02 |
| Mithrandir | chroots and bind mounts | 02:03 |
| \sh | ogra: ok...u fooled me | 02:04 |
| ogra | me ? | 02:05 |
| ogra | never ;) | 02:05 |
| thom | 11:25 ~% wc -l /etc/fstab | 02:05 |
| thom | 55 /etc/fstab | 02:05 |
| thom | and that's my desktop | 02:05 |
| ogra | ugh | 02:05 |
| \sh | thats the reason why they renewed the autotools stuff | 02:05 |
| \sh | i just had a look into gentoo dar ebuild | 02:05 |
| \sh | autoreconf | 02:05 |
| \sh | libtoolize | 02:05 |
| \sh | libtoolize --copy --force || die | 02:05 |
| \sh | # fix build on amd64 | 02:06 |
| \sh | :) | 02:06 |
| ogra | but it should happen on build time.... not by including the config.{sub,guess} in the diff | 02:06 |
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| \sh | ogra: i tried everything to avoid this, but if you copy config.{sub,guess} via runtime, after debdiff there is a change | 02:07 |
| \sh | cause those files are already there. | 02:08 |
| \sh | or I remove it from the diff at all | 02:08 |
| \sh | by hand | 02:08 |
| \sh | what do u think? | 02:09 |
| ogra | \sh, if they are in the diff, it indicates that you changed it...so make sure you dont change it ;) i.e. if it happens during the clean target, look if you cant move it to the configure target... | 02:09 |
| ogra | there are too any packages abusing the clean target imho.... poker3d is the worst i've seen so far | 02:10 |
| ogra | s/any/many/ | 02:10 |
| \sh | ogra: I tried...config.{guess,sub} are in the orig.tar.gz, it doesn't change anything if I copy them via configure target or via clean | 02:11 |
| ogra | \sh, it should.... because you dont run configure if you make the source package | 02:11 |
| ogra | ... but clean is run.... | 02:12 |
| \sh | lets try | 02:14 |
| \sh | some advise concerning running autreconf and libtoolize in the configure target? | 02:15 |
| ogra | not from my side if it doesnt break it :) | 02:15 |
| ogra | just make sure that "clean:" really only cleans :) | 02:15 |
| \sh | yeah...:) | 02:16 |
| \sh | lets check this version first... | 02:16 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: breezy == amd64 or jbailey-breezy-amd64 ? :) | 02:19 |
| jbailey | \sh: Please don't play with my chroot. =) | 02:19 |
| \sh | jbailey: ok :) this is enough info ;) | 02:20 |
| jbailey | \sh: My chroots tend to have things like really experimental glibc's loaded into them. =) | 02:20 |
| Mithrandir | \sh: hmm, I think I debootstrapped the wrong arch :/ | 02:20 |
| Mithrandir | give me a few minutes to fix | 02:20 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: no problem :) | 02:20 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: and if you have time, i need at least these packages as build-deps (if they aren't already on it): zlib1g-dev, libattr1-dev, libbz2-dev, e2fslibs-dev, libssl-dev, autotools-dev | 02:21 |
| Mithrandir | don't separate them with , :P | 02:24 |
| Mithrandir | anyhow, installed | 02:25 |
| Mithrandir | anything else? | 02:26 |
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| ogra | Mithrandir, heh, you lazy copy paster.... | 02:30 |
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| Mithrandir | ogra: dude, I'm a sysadmin. Of course I'm lazy. | 02:30 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: thx :) not right now ;) | 02:30 |
| ogra | hmm, i thought that was a privilege of programmers :) | 02:30 |
| Mithrandir | ogra: sysadmins are even more lazy than programmers. :) | 02:31 |
| ogra | hehe | 02:31 |
| Mithrandir | but, I should be writing my thesis, not mucking around on IRC. | 02:31 |
| Mithrandir | see you around later. | 02:31 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: ah | 02:31 |
| \sh | dchroot -c breezy -d | 02:31 |
| \sh | dchroot: getpwnam failed for shermann in breezy chroot, aborting. | 02:32 |
| Mithrandir | fixed | 02:32 |
| \sh | thx :) | 02:32 |
| Mithrandir | (you want a user in the chroot too? slacker! ;-) | 02:32 |
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| ogra | \sh, ping | 04:25 |
| ogra | siretart, ping | 04:25 |
| siretart | ogra: lucky, I just wanted to log out ;) | 04:25 |
| ogra | siretart, you want to get approved today for MOTUness ? | 04:25 |
| siretart | ogra: I think I could help, so, yes | 04:26 |
| siretart | why do you ask? | 04:26 |
| ogra | siretart, then please put yourself on the agenda.... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/TechnicalBoardAgenda | 04:26 |
| ogra | \sh, the same goes for you ^^^^^^^^^ | 04:26 |
| siretart | ogra: ah, I thought being on MaintainerCandidates would suffice | 04:27 |
| siretart | will do, thanks for pointing out! | 04:27 |
| ogra | nope, you should be on the agenda too... | 04:27 |
| siretart | on my way home, will do from there. | 04:27 |
| siretart | cu later | 04:27 |
| \sh | ogra: pong | 04:29 |
| \sh | ogra: I'm on the MaintainerList | 04:29 |
| \sh | isn't it enough? | 04:29 |
| ogra | \sh, please put yourself on the agenda too | 04:30 |
| \sh | k...at the bottom? | 04:30 |
| \sh | or under astharot? | 04:31 |
| ogra | wherever you like | 04:32 |
| Amaranth | as soon as pyxdg 0.11 gets into main can someone sponsor my smeg package? | 04:32 |
| Amaranth | it passed lintian with no warnings or errors | 04:32 |
| Amaranth | http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/0.6.2/ wasn't sure what was needed so i uploaded everything | 04:33 |
| ogra | .dsc diff.gz and orig.tar.gz :) | 04:35 |
| Amaranth | all there | 04:35 |
| Amaranth | this version supports KDE, it rocks :) | 04:36 |
| Lathiat | whatd you do to do that | 04:36 |
| Amaranth | do you really want to know? it's ugly | 04:37 |
| Lathiat | yes | 04:37 |
| \sh | Amaranth: the gnome people will kiss your feet for this tool ;) | 04:37 |
| Lathiat | im still wondering why gnome has its own | 04:37 |
| Lathiat | and then theres smeg | 04:38 |
| Amaranth | Lathiat: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5e1qhs46.html | 04:38 |
| \sh | they will hail you, they will call u "god" ;) | 04:38 |
| Amaranth | gnome didn't have its own when i started | 04:38 |
| Lathiat | thats my point. | 04:38 |
| Amaranth | mark wants a simple editor for the builtin gnome one | 04:38 |
| Amaranth | appearently the plan is to have it come up on right click on the menu and basically only do what it does now | 04:38 |
| ogra | does he ? | 04:38 |
| Amaranth | that's how he made it sound | 04:38 |
| \sh | hmm..gnome 2.10 doesn't have one ;) at least it's not working for the freedesktop specs | 04:39 |
| Amaranth | me and manny get to fight for the advanced editor spot | 04:39 |
| ogra | \sh, nope, but 2.12 | 04:39 |
| Lathiat | manny? | 04:39 |
| Amaranth | \sh: nope, that's why i wrote this | 04:39 |
| Amaranth | christian me<can't spell it, french> | 04:39 |
| Amaranth | err, Nesomething | 04:39 |
| Lathiat | he wrote one too? | 04:39 |
| \sh | ogra: 2.12 is ready for include? | 04:39 |
| Amaranth | gnome-menu-editor in gnome's CVS | 04:39 |
| ogra | \sh, 2.12 will b in breezy.... | 04:39 |
| Lathiat | b b in b reezy | 04:40 |
| ogra | \sh, i guess right after the CXX and X transitions are done | 04:40 |
| Amaranth | \sh: smeg works on hoary too, with a couple of extra packages :) | 04:40 |
| \sh | ogra: u see..I'm not up2date with gnome :( | 04:40 |
| Amaranth | Lathiat: Did you look at my KDE theme code? | 04:42 |
| Amaranth | Lathiat: Makes me want to puke. | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: :) | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: i've written worse | 04:42 |
| Amaranth | so have i, look at the rest of smeg ;) | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | i had this irc server | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | that linked into a network | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | (the one i was running) | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | to detect and nuke floodnets, etc | 04:42 |
| Lathiat | and uh, yeh that was rather horrid python | 04:42 |
| Amaranth | heh | 04:42 |
| Amaranth | my hack for loading debian menu icons is really bad copy and paste crap | 04:43 |
| Amaranth | trying to load debian menu icons with my new setup for loading icons was taking 10 seconds | 04:43 |
| Amaranth | since the icons don't exist it was searching once in the kde theme, once in the gnome theme, and twice in hicolor | 04:44 |
| Amaranth | for each icon | 04:44 |
| Lathiat | heh | 04:44 |
| \sh | ogra: now it goes...my try to compile dar on amdt64 ;) | 04:54 |
| ogra | hope you have the hour it takes to compile it ;) | 04:54 |
| \sh | ogra: just finished ;) | 04:55 |
| ogra | ah, yes, my build machine is a pIII 900....might be somewhat different | 04:55 |
| \sh | ogra: hehe...but my laptop is glowing just because it's burning :) | 04:56 |
| ogra | heh | 04:57 |
| \sh | strike | 04:58 |
| \sh | done...dar is compiling on amd64 | 04:58 |
| \sh | so I can go home...and upload later the patch :) | 04:59 |
| \sh | guys...laters :) bus is waiting :) | 05:00 |
| ogra | not the patch, the packet ;) | 05:00 |
| thom | ogra: any ideas on monodevelop for amd64? ;-) | 05:04 |
| ogra | thom, its working great... :) | 05:05 |
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| ogra | tseng nd i talked about which mono apps should go to main.... | 05:05 |
| thom | ogra: ... in breezy? ;-) | 05:05 |
| ogra | yep | 05:05 |
| ogra | beagle should be one...and eithe f-spot or monodevelop the second | 05:06 |
| Treenaks | f-spot is nice.. if you don't have an existing photo library | 05:06 |
| thom | i'd say all three and tomboy too | 05:06 |
| Treenaks | categorising an existing library is hell | 05:06 |
| ogra | (havent tried the 0.7 build yet) | 05:06 |
| ogra | thom, this many ? | 05:06 |
| thom | ogra: sure, why not? | 05:06 |
| Treenaks | ogra: if you can get them, why not | 05:06 |
| ogra | we have to care for all of them in main then... | 05:07 |
| ogra | i'd rather go with a small amount at the start and raise the number later... | 05:07 |
| thom | i don't see the point of having a totally artificial split and those four are imho the core mono apps | 05:07 |
| Amaranth | i agree | 05:07 |
| ogra | but what about blam for example ? | 05:08 |
| ogra | or muine | 05:08 |
| ogra | i guess they should stay in universe | 05:08 |
| Amaranth | heh, i use both of those | 05:08 |
| Amaranth | but having them in universe isn't a problem, most people don't use them | 05:08 |
| ogra | but we have a music player in the default install...lets avoid redundancys | 05:08 |
| Burgundavia | blam is a mess | 05:09 |
| Burgundavia | and muine is dup | 05:09 |
| Amaranth | yeah, i agreed with leaving them in universe :) | 05:09 |
| Burgundavia | and violates the Ubuntu one good app | 05:09 |
| Amaranth | Burgundavia: what's wrong with blam? | 05:09 |
| ogra | its crashy | 05:09 |
| Burgundavia | Amaranth, a mess internally, c and C# | 05:09 |
| ogra | like f-spot on amd64 still is :( sadly.... | 05:09 |
| Amaranth | 1.8.0 is, hallski says a lot of that is fixed in CVS | 05:09 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, worse c++ and c# | 05:10 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, are you serious? I thought it was C | 05:10 |
| ogra | thats why we cant update it atm | 05:10 |
| Amaranth | he only uses C++ for mozilla, dunno why he doesn't use gtkmozembed | 05:10 |
| ogra | i have no idea either | 05:11 |
| Amaranth | something about fonts | 05:12 |
| Amaranth | and not getting enough control from C# | 05:12 |
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| ivoks | hm... couple of ogras here :) | 05:15 |
| ogra | ivoks, only two | 05:16 |
| ivoks | two make couple :) | 05:17 |
| ogra | sure... and we love each other, arent we ? | 05:17 |
| ogra_ | indeed :) | 05:18 |
| ivoks | :) | 05:19 |
| ivoks | hm... this sounds like case for certain doctors :) | 05:20 |
| ivoks | multiple persons in one man :) | 05:20 |
| ogra | as long as we coexist in a friendy manner we dont need a doctor.... | 05:21 |
| ogra_ | thats what _you_ think hehe | 05:21 |
| ogra | quiet now ! | 05:21 |
| ogra_ | ok | 05:21 |
| ivoks | i see you don't have anything better to do :) | 05:22 |
| ogra | i have... but eve we need breaks sometimes :) | 05:22 |
| Treenaks | ogra: wow, you cloned yourself ;) | 05:22 |
| Treenaks | ogra: now you can upload twice as fast! | 05:22 |
| ogra | Treenaks, yeah... to get more work done :) | 05:23 |
| Treenaks | (or at least, twice as much packages) | 05:23 |
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| ogra | but he is to shy, he doesnt show the others to us ;) | 05:23 |
| ivoks | :) | 05:24 |
| ivoks | i think doko lives in china | 05:24 |
| ivoks | and has all the free labour | 05:24 |
| ivoks | :) | 05:25 |
| Burgundavia | what the heck pacakge is glx.h in? | 05:25 |
| ivoks | libgl-dev | 05:25 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, apt-file search glx.h ? | 05:25 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, love to, but it doesn't like breezy right now | 05:27 |
| ogra | whoops, oh, yes, its on my todo list... sorry | 05:27 |
| Burgundavia | np | 05:27 |
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| Burgundavia | I run breezy, I can accept the annoyances | 05:27 |
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| Amaranth | pyxdg 0.11 has hit main, who wants to do smeg? :) | 06:10 |
| Amaranth | i have a diff.gz, dsc, and orig.tar.gz at http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/0.6.2/ | 06:11 |
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| GheRivero | res people | 06:30 |
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| herve | hi! | 07:02 |
| Nafallo | hi herve! how's life? :-) | 07:07 |
| herve | fine | 07:07 |
| herve | and how is going in Nafallo's land? :-) | 07:08 |
| Nafallo | herve: except irritating parents that think I should seek work on places out of reach? ;-) | 07:09 |
| herve | a polite way to ask you to leave the familial nest? :-) | 07:10 |
| Nafallo | herve: naah, already out of there :-). more like stupidity and lack of reading and understanding on their side ;-). | 07:10 |
| herve | they won't get what your job consists of? | 07:11 |
| herve | I know that :-) | 07:11 |
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| Nafallo | herve: well, they just want me to survive. they forgot that I have to be at the work or something ;-). | 07:12 |
| Nafallo | herve: or more likely, they trust my grandfathers words more than me reading the requirments on the companys homepage ;-) | 07:13 |
| herve | trusting a webpage more than you? ouch! :-) | 07:14 |
| Nafallo | herve: nope. I trust a webpage more than my grandfather ;-). | 07:14 |
| Nafallo | herve: I should just ignore that job. I can't even find the address on the map for heavens sake ;-). | 07:15 |
| herve | speaking of trust... heh | 07:16 |
| Nafallo | herve: well. you /have/ heard about the web of trust, right? ;-) | 07:16 |
| Nafallo | herve: maybe this wasn't what it meant though :-P | 07:17 |
| herve | dholbach showed me a website where you can see the distance between two keys | 07:18 |
| herve | fun to see there are only 4 people between us, while we never meet | 07:18 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 07:18 |
| Nafallo | there should be a package for that somewhere :-) | 07:20 |
| ivoks | herve: my idol :) | 07:20 |
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| herve | ivols: my... er, fellow brother of maintaining! | 07:21 |
| Nafallo | herve: keyanalyze. that's the package ;-). | 07:21 |
| herve | Nafallo, it draws a graph of "dependencies"? | 07:22 |
| Nafallo | tseng: hiya :-) | 07:22 |
| herve | well, a graph shortlu | 07:22 |
| Nafallo | herve: It produces output suitable for placing on a web site showing which keys have signed which other keys. | 07:22 |
| herve | ivoks and shortly, even | 07:22 |
| Nafallo | herve: something like that ;-) | 07:22 |
| herve | soon to be seen, the worldmap of gpg keys! | 07:23 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 07:23 |
| ivoks | :) | 07:24 |
| Nafallo | herve: I should have looked at the recommends instead of the text ;-) | 07:24 |
| Nafallo | herve: that one should produce graphs indeed ;-). | 07:24 |
| herve | if you know the coordinates | 07:26 |
| herve | you could place it on a worldmap | 07:26 |
| Nafallo | we have to extend the gpg keydata ;-) | 07:29 |
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| Nafallo | hehehe | 07:32 |
| siretart | ok. i'm off. will be back at 2045. cu at the meeting! :) | 07:45 |
| tseng|work | meeting? | 07:45 |
| siretart | TB meeting | 07:45 |
| tseng|work | oh wow | 07:45 |
| tseng|work | i thought it was another week | 07:46 |
| Nafallo | siretart: 40 _YEARS_!? are you kidding me? | 07:46 |
| siretart | Nafallo: lol. :) | 07:46 |
| siretart | tseng|work: it's a special review candidates meeting. (and I cannot attend on time :( ) | 07:46 |
| herve | I'm confident | 07:47 |
| herve | and you're a DD, no? | 07:47 |
| siretart | herve: I maintain 2 packages in debian. but im no DD | 07:48 |
| herve | okay, but still | 07:49 |
| herve | you have a background talking for you | 07:49 |
| siretart | I hope I make it quicker, but I cannot promise. . woah its late. gotta go. CU | 07:49 |
| herve | ++ | 07:49 |
| Nafallo | siretart: see you | 07:50 |
| \sh | re | 08:00 |
| tseng|work | so the meeting is in 2 hours? | 08:01 |
| \sh | yepp | 08:01 |
| tseng|work | hey who was talking about wxWidgets the other day? | 08:06 |
| tseng|work | 2.6 | 08:06 |
| zul | crimsun wasnt it? | 08:07 |
| tseng|work | beats me | 08:07 |
| tseng|work | it looks like the linux waste client needs it | 08:08 |
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| \sh | ogra: last patch + upload cycle for "dar" for you? | 08:15 |
| \sh | updated patch is in bugzilla | 08:15 |
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| dholbach | hellas! | 08:18 |
| \sh | hey dholbach | 08:19 |
| dholbach | hey \sh | 08:19 |
| ogra | \sh, we should probably wait.... might be that you can upload it yourself tomorrow ;) | 08:19 |
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| \sh | ogra: lazy dog ;) | 08:20 |
| herve | hi thom | 08:20 |
| ogra | heh | 08:20 |
| herve | ogra, did you set an arch repository up for cputmp, yet? ;-) | 08:20 |
| ogra | nope, not yet.... i was nearly the whole day busy sorting the drama of yesterday | 08:21 |
| ogra | and my inbox bursts from italian mails.... | 08:22 |
| herve | what drama? | 08:22 |
| herve | *that* was a drama? | 08:22 |
| herve | well yes, getting mailbombed is a drama | 08:22 |
| \sh | italian mails? | 08:24 |
| ogra | herve, yes, it was, and we both behaved wrong.... | 08:25 |
| herve | not to the point of being attacked | 08:26 |
| herve | because we asked for a source package? | 08:26 |
| ogra | herve, i dont get mailbombed, i'm just discussing with thesaltydog and abelli.... | 08:26 |
| ogra | herve, nope because we didnt behave like we should | 08:27 |
| herve | ha ok, I spoke with abelli in PV yesterday afterwards | 08:27 |
| dholbach | the atmosphere was not really inviting | 08:27 |
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| herve | there were problems on both sides | 08:29 |
| ogra | yep | 08:29 |
| dholbach | yes, it all went unfortunately wrong | 08:29 |
| dholbach | but we should agree on being as patient as possible | 08:29 |
| dholbach | and when it's hard, just turn away from the conversation for some minutes :-) | 08:30 |
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| herve | yeah, you could have a pizza burning! | 08:31 |
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| herve | Nafallo, your parents again? | 08:33 |
| Nafallo | herve: xorg :-P | 08:33 |
| herve | you mean, you're addicted of daily upgrading as I am? :-) | 08:38 |
| Nafallo | naah, hourly or less ;-) | 08:39 |
| \sh | ahhh...arkrpg starting to build for the first time | 08:39 |
| herve | is there a doctor in the audience? :-) | 08:39 |
| herve | \sh, the miracle of nature :-) | 08:40 |
| \sh | herve: the miracle of xorg | 08:40 |
| herve | hmm... looks like listening to nausicaa's ost is having side effects on me | 08:40 |
| thom | 19 works alright for me | 08:41 |
| Nafallo | -17 -18 -19 -20 is borked here ;-) | 08:41 |
| \sh | we will see | 08:41 |
| thom | (admittedly i had to fix up some stuff to make it work right, but it does now) | 08:42 |
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| dholbach | thom: but the ctrl-<key>--stuff is still borked for you, isnt it? | 08:43 |
| thom | dholbach: it's got better since -17, but yes still borken | 08:43 |
| Nafallo | hmm, my modeline is gone :-P | 08:44 |
| dholbach | i sent a mail to unfrgiven !5! times, because i wanted to ctrl-c ctrl-v something (and evolution took it for "ok to send this") | 08:44 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 08:44 |
| dholbach | ok... i didnt have my first coffee then | 08:45 |
| herve | Nafallo, modelines? I thought it disappeared with xfree3 ! | 08:45 |
| \sh | argl...xorg is forget it ;) | 08:45 |
| \sh | the deps are again b0rked | 08:45 |
| Nafallo | herve: not for my widescreen atleast. everything looks real bad now :-P | 08:46 |
| herve | someone knows which xorg fedora core will include? | 08:46 |
| thom | dholbach: hahah, that's pretty cool | 08:46 |
| herve | or will ubuntu have the most rocking one? :-) | 08:46 |
| thom | herve: fc4 will have 6.8.2 aiui | 08:46 |
| dholbach | herve: we will have the most rocking one of course | 08:47 |
| dholbach | :) | 08:47 |
| herve | hmm... making me think of something | 08:47 |
| herve | but this will more probably take place on #u-d | 08:47 |
| herve | that some folks from fedora team attend #u-b | 08:47 |
| herve | and the other way round | 08:48 |
| herve | so we share work, ideas, and code of course | 08:48 |
| thom | #u-b ? | 08:48 |
| herve | -devel I mean | 08:48 |
| thom | *phew* | 08:48 |
| herve | what is -b? | 08:48 |
| Nafallo | brb | 08:49 |
| thom | idunno, you wrote it! | 08:49 |
| dholbach | thom was already afraid he missed something :-) | 08:49 |
| herve | ha ok, I wondered what he was relieved about :-) | 08:49 |
| thom | dholbach: i was terrified of more irc channels ;-) | 08:49 |
| ogra | thom you dont know #ubuntu-belgianbeer ? | 08:49 |
| dholbach | haha | 08:49 |
| === thom thwaps ogra | ||
| herve | ogra, if only... | 08:49 |
| thom | ;-) | 08:49 |
| dholbach | #ubuntu-beginners... that one was discussed | 08:49 |
| ogra | argh | 08:49 |
| ogra | horrible | 08:50 |
| thom | ogra: anyway, #u-britishbeer would be far better | 08:50 |
| herve | hmm... leffe | 08:50 |
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| Nafallo | yay! thinks are back :-) | 08:50 |
| herve | dholbach, "en terrasse" of course! | 08:50 |
| dholbach | ogra: you're really close to belgium, aren't you | 08:50 |
| dholbach | herve: :) | 08:50 |
| ogra | thom, i'd vote for #ubuntu-VB | 08:50 |
| dholbach | haha... yes! :-) | 08:50 |
| ogra | dholbach, yep | 08:50 |
| thom | ogra: man, you germans have no taste in beer :P | 08:50 |
| ogra | lol | 08:50 |
| dholbach | haahahahahaha | 08:50 |
| === dholbach goes back to #ubuntu-conspiracy... :-) | ||
| === Nafallo joins dholbach there ;-) | ||
| dholbach | argl... gtkmm is utterly broken | 08:51 |
| dholbach | the old old old one | 08:51 |
| \sh | thom: WHAT?!!?!?!?! | 08:52 |
| \sh | thom: I drink Guinness | 08:52 |
| Nafallo | hmm, the channel was really there :-P | 08:52 |
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| ogra | Nafallo, sure.... thats where the secret meetings go on ;) | 08:52 |
| dholbach | shhh ogra | 08:52 |
| ogra | heh | 08:52 |
| tseng|work | oh man i missed the secret | 08:53 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 08:53 |
| \sh | /mode \sh +i | 08:53 |
| dholbach | ogra ogra ogra... | 08:53 |
| dholbach | :-) | 08:53 |
| tseng|work | dholbach: say oliver grawert 3 times fast | 08:53 |
| lamont | mjpegtools (multiverse) is FTBFS: non-PIC in shared lib (amd64 should fail) | 08:53 |
| lamont | and ia64, and hppa. | 08:53 |
| tseng|work | non pic cflags, or non pic assembler? | 08:54 |
| \sh | thomas anders thomas anders thomas anders ,-) | 08:54 |
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| \sh | hahaha | 08:55 |
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| \sh | when I first saw oliver in our ISH catine, I was wonderin where dieter bohlen is sitting or if he was waiting for nora ;) | 08:56 |
| === \sh runs | ||
| === ogra looks for something *very heavy* to throw at \sh | ||
| tseng|work | german humor... | 08:56 |
| thom | did they put something in the water in germany today? | 08:56 |
| ogra | \sh, so you want to become a MOTU today ? | 08:56 |
| ogra | \sh, who should vouch for you ? | 08:57 |
| ogra | *g* | 08:57 |
| herve | me! | 08:57 |
| herve | :-p | 08:57 |
| \sh | ogra: well, then u have to upload my patches tomorrow ;) | 08:57 |
| tseng|work | thom: the wind is coming to strongly from france | 08:57 |
| ogra | tseng|work, hahahahaha | 08:57 |
| Nafallo | lol | 08:57 |
| herve | french, not to be trusted! | 08:57 |
| thom | tseng|work: *g* | 08:57 |
| herve | sorry guys, I don't support your war! | 08:58 |
| \sh | what war? | 08:58 |
| \sh | oh yes | 08:58 |
| herve | don't pay attention, french humour! | 08:58 |
| \sh | i forgot :) | 08:58 |
| \sh | btw...is there a "ubuntu webapplications" project? | 09:03 |
| thom | ARGH YOU SAID THE W WORD | 09:03 |
| jbailey | Thom "Stay away from the W, mofo" May... | 09:03 |
| === \sh hides...looks all over the show, "I? THE W WORD?" | ||
| === \sh is scared to death now | ||
| tseng|work | \sh: dude you should totally start one | 09:05 |
| tseng|work | and make installing webapps from .deb not totally f'n random | 09:05 |
| tseng|work | fix moinmoin first | 09:05 |
| tseng|work | the install is complete shithouse | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | \sh, add koha to your list of apps to package | 09:06 |
| thom | \sh: you're only allowed to create webapps in ubuntu in lisp. that's the ubuntu webapplications project. rewrite the web in lisp | 09:06 |
| === dholbach hands \sh the debconf handbook | ||
| \sh | *dead* | 09:06 |
| Nafallo | lol | 09:07 |
| ivoks | so... now we open champaigne? | 09:07 |
| ivoks | meeting today? at midnight :) | 09:07 |
| ogra | thom, what about all the assembler cgi's ? | 09:07 |
| tseng|work | its in 1 hour | 09:08 |
| \sh | and I thought I could beat the gentoo guys, with their shitty webapps philosophy | 09:08 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: then that's tomorrow ;-) | 09:08 |
| dholbach | tseng: that's the TB meeting | 09:08 |
| tseng|work | \sh: uh dude, what gentoo has is a ton better than us atm IMO | 09:08 |
| thom | ogra: only if it's s390 assembler | 09:08 |
| tseng|work | \sh: its consistant, if nothing else | 09:08 |
| \sh | tseng: not the webapps...its a pain in da ass | 09:08 |
| ogra | thom, i nearly lbought one last week | 09:08 |
| dholbach | thom: why do you want to cause so much pain... | 09:08 |
| tseng|work | thom: but what about all those people using m68k | 09:09 |
| thom | dholbach: webapps are always pain. i just wish to ensure that everyone is on an equal footing | 09:09 |
| Burgundavia | thom, there are probably laws against that sort of thing | 09:09 |
| ogra | thom, for only 250 , including the maintenance laptop | 09:09 |
| dholbach | thom: ok... agreed :-) | 09:09 |
| ogra | thom, but additionally 300 for shipping .... :( | 09:09 |
| \sh | ogra: s390? | 09:09 |
| thom | (can you tell i used to be a sysadmin at a web host?) | 09:09 |
| ogra | yep | 09:09 |
| \sh | ogra: move towards the airport | 09:09 |
| thom | ogra: and 1 million dollars for the electricity and cooling and the extension for your house? | 09:10 |
| dholbach | ogra: get an anhaenger, drive to bielefeld and you're set :-) | 09:10 |
| herve | webapps? do you need an expert? :-) | 09:10 |
| \sh | ogra: redhats s390 was in the basement of the redhat office building...and when the metro train wasn't there u could here the s390 ;) | 09:10 |
| tseng|work | i need someone to make the moinmoin debs not suck | 09:10 |
| tseng|work | you have to read a few screens full of instructions to use the software post install | 09:11 |
| \sh | debconf is not difficult | 09:11 |
| ogra | thom, i probably would have only used the beautiful rack.... my GF wants my 2meter 19" glass cabinet for her tomatos | 09:11 |
| ivoks | buuuu... i'm all alone un #ubuntu.hr | 09:11 |
| dholbach | \sh: i saw the extra powersupplies for the otto/karstadt/quelle/... s390s :-) | 09:11 |
| ogra | ivoks, use a dash, not a dot ;) | 09:11 |
| ivoks | :) | 09:11 |
| ivoks | same thing - noone :) | 09:11 |
| \sh | dholbach: extraordinary :) | 09:11 |
| ivoks | no, wait, one freek camed :) | 09:12 |
| herve | now I'm alone on #u-hr :( | 09:12 |
| dholbach | \sh: they had a ship and a tank engine with some 20000 litres of fuel, and a room full of batteries, that was funny - everything was a buzz | 09:12 |
| ivoks | #u.hr | 09:13 |
| ogra | dholbach, visit \sh at ish GmbH and look at their powersupplys.... or better watch a movie on the 20m screen in the NOC ;) | 09:14 |
| \sh | dholbach: when I was starting with my it carreer...there was one fresh fruit and vegetables whole saler...he went bankrupt because of the ibms mainframe machines... | 09:14 |
| dholbach | :-/ | 09:15 |
| \sh | hehe | 09:15 |
| \sh | i have some pics of the NOC :) | 09:15 |
| \sh | moment | 09:15 |
| dholbach | ok... who fixes old gtkmm? | 09:16 |
| ogra | mrogue ? | 09:16 |
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| herve | it took me a week to transition a single package... | 09:16 |
| dholbach | ogra: unfortunately not | 09:16 |
| dholbach | ogra: there are some packages still depending on it | 09:16 |
| ogra | then morgue them too.... who needs them... | 09:17 |
| ogra | its just software :) | 09:17 |
| ogra | <--- kidding | 09:17 |
| herve | yeah, we have plenty of them! | 09:17 |
| \sh | http://shermann.blogweb.de/uploads/pictures/DSCN0014.jpg | 09:17 |
| herve | hey! what happened to my <joke> tags! | 09:17 |
| dholbach | it's all about 0s and 1s... it's silly making such a fuss | 09:17 |
| \sh | http://shermann.blogweb.de/uploads/pictures/DSCN0037.jpg | 09:18 |
| herve | \sh, take care with politics here | 09:18 |
| \sh | herve: politics? | 09:18 |
| herve | strange... | 09:19 |
| herve | I see twice your blog | 09:19 |
| herve | not your photographs | 09:19 |
| \sh | oh | 09:19 |
| \sh | security feature | 09:19 |
| \sh | strange | 09:19 |
| \sh | new in s9y 8.1 | 09:19 |
| \sh | 0.8.1 | 09:19 |
| \sh | sorry | 09:19 |
| dholbach | herve: me too | 09:19 |
| \sh | this is a feature | 09:19 |
| \sh | a new feature | 09:20 |
| \sh | hmm... | 09:20 |
| \sh | moment | 09:20 |
| dholbach | of course, bugs are never bugs... they're features :-) | 09:20 |
| herve | there's the salt of using software! | 09:20 |
| herve | the pepper, would say some morons ;-) | 09:20 |
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| \sh | dholbach: i have to report it :) | 09:21 |
| dholbach | ha... murrayc will love this, i'll tell him to fix a bug in some code of 2002-04-14 :-) | 09:22 |
| \sh | coffee time | 09:23 |
| \sh | ok | 09:26 |
| \sh | http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/ | 09:26 |
| === Burgundavia is frustrated at 3 different apps using three differnt url handling schemes | ||
| herve | \sh, so what did you want us to see? | 09:28 |
| \sh | herve: \sh pictures... | 09:28 |
| herve | all? :-) | 09:28 |
| \sh | dholbach should see the NOC :) | 09:28 |
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| \sh | herve: oh well..I don't want you to see my nude pictures ;) | 09:29 |
| herve | and the screen wall? | 09:29 |
| herve | alas! | 09:29 |
| \sh | http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/main.php/v/shermannpics/?g2_navId=x1a83f40f | 09:29 |
| ivoks | see you in 2.5 hours | 09:29 |
| ivoks | or is meeting sooner? :) | 09:29 |
| \sh | ivoks: why don't u attend also for the TB? | 09:29 |
| ivoks | when is that one? | 09:29 |
| ogra | 30min | 09:30 |
| \sh | 8pm UTC | 09:30 |
| ivoks | 30min... | 09:30 |
| ivoks | huh... | 09:30 |
| ivoks | no time for sleep :) | 09:30 |
| ivoks | i'll come ;0 | 09:30 |
| ivoks | bye | 09:30 |
| \sh | herve: looks nice the wall... | 09:30 |
| \sh | sunday we had F1 running on the middle of the screen | 09:31 |
| === herve wonders how star wars would look on it! | ||
| \sh | ogra: btw...the first row is now completly full...the voice & hsi techs (henning and thomas) and farid and frank z. are sitting now in front of me | 09:32 |
| herve | \sh, you're at work? | 09:32 |
| ogra | oh, they moved down ? | 09:32 |
| \sh | ogra: george and ian are sitting now next to frank f. and rochus and craig sitting where henning and thomas were | 09:32 |
| \sh | herve: no | 09:32 |
| herve | ha, you're just explaining :-) | 09:33 |
| \sh | ogra: no voice & hsi techs ops | 09:33 |
| \sh | herve: and if you check the pics of http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/main.php/v/shermann/LUUSA/20050224/?g2_navId=x1a83f40f | 09:34 |
| \sh | there r also some interessting people on :) | 09:34 |
| \sh | one php5 book author | 09:35 |
| \sh | a phpmyadmin/s9y dev | 09:35 |
| \sh | some freebsd hackers | 09:35 |
| herve | that's why they look like zombies? | 09:36 |
| herve | ha no wait | 09:36 |
| herve | that's the red eyes :)- | 09:36 |
| \sh | haha :) | 09:36 |
| \sh | lucky for me, that i secured my dubai and za photos :) | 09:37 |
| tseng|work | what is s9y | 09:44 |
| herve | serependity, no? | 09:45 |
| tseng|work | oh | 09:45 |
| tseng|work | yes.. blog stuff | 09:45 |
| herve | some name like that | 09:45 |
| \sh | yeah...serendipity | 09:45 |
| \sh | has a relationship to the movie "serendipity" | 09:45 |
| herve | I was close :-) | 09:45 |
| \sh | herve: this mistake i did also in the past | 09:46 |
| \sh | I made ; | 09:46 |
| \sh | not did | 09:46 |
| \sh | everytime this english russian romanian german slangish style of writing and speaking..I need to have a nice holiday in the UK | 09:47 |
| herve | don't tell me... | 09:48 |
| \sh | the team at my company: scottsman, russian, romanian and me ;) it's really a nasty slang | 09:49 |
| \sh | but at least, everybody can understand each other ;) | 09:49 |
| \sh | new esperanto | 09:49 |
| herve | that's the essential :-) | 09:49 |
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| tseng|work | garrr | 10:26 |
| tseng|work | we wasted so much time talking about f'n times i will have to leave any minute | 10:26 |
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| dholbach | tseng|work: <Kamion> \sh: by the time people are coming up for maintainership approval, their contributions ought to be obvious even in absentia | 10:27 |
| tseng|work | yes | 10:27 |
| herve | night all | 10:29 |
| siretart | what happened? no quorum again? | 10:30 |
| tseng|work | of course not | 10:30 |
| tseng|work | its TIME | 10:30 |
| tseng|work | siretart: the quorum is fine this time | 10:33 |
| siretart | tseng|work: ah, I spotted mdz and keybuk. great :) | 10:33 |
| tseng|work | oh man.. | 10:34 |
| tseng|work | this is painful | 10:35 |
| ogra | tseng|work, i tried, sorry | 10:37 |
| tseng|work | ok my ride is leaving | 10:37 |
| tseng|work | sorry. | 10:37 |
| tseng|work | thanks ogra | 10:37 |
| tseng|work | see you soon | 10:38 |
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| lamont | libdc1394 needs xorg-path love | 10:44 |
| siretart | \sh: you said you knew how to proceed next, I'm a bit unsure, what did mdz mean earlier with that? | 10:47 |
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| dholbach | do you have gpg keys already? | 10:47 |
| siretart | yeah, I got mine signed by 2 DDs | 10:48 |
| dholbach | excellent | 10:48 |
| dholbach | you will have to send the signed CoC to mako | 10:48 |
| siretart | ok | 10:48 |
| dholbach | and then tell elmo wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads | 10:48 |
| astharot | good evening! :) | 10:49 |
| dholbach | hey astharot! | 10:49 |
| dholbach | ROCKing NEW | 10:49 |
| siretart | hi astharot | 10:49 |
| dholbach | NEWS | 10:49 |
| \sh | what about "You will have to send signed mails, stating name, email adress you wish to use and who approved you on which date." | 10:49 |
| \sh | to whom? elmo? | 10:49 |
| astharot | (in my country it's evening eheh) | 10:49 |
| dholbach | \sh: wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads | 10:50 |
| \sh | dholbach: ok to uploads@ then :) | 10:50 |
| thom | oh man. we're letting all sorts of rabble upload to main now :P | 10:51 |
| dholbach | thank you thom | 10:51 |
| thom | dholbach: *g* congrats :-) | 10:52 |
| dholbach | :-) | 10:52 |
| \sh | dholbach: well done dude :) | 10:53 |
| dholbach | thank you :-) | 10:53 |
| dholbach | \sh: what about your key? | 10:54 |
| \sh | so..we will have a lot of beer to drink at ogra's inn :) | 10:54 |
| \sh | dholbach: is coming ..:) | 10:54 |
| dholbach | \sh: who signed it? | 10:54 |
| \sh | I'll need to translate the upload page ;) | 10:54 |
| \sh | ogra :) | 10:54 |
| dholbach | astharot: you have a signed key as well? | 10:54 |
| ogra | :) | 10:54 |
| astharot | dholbach: yes | 10:54 |
| dholbach | \sh: ah,... excellent | 10:54 |
| dholbach | astharot: cool | 10:54 |
| ivoks | great guys! | 10:54 |
| ivoks | contgrats to all | 10:55 |
| astharot | dholbach: I can send you a signed mail... so you can download the public key from a keyserver... | 10:55 |
| dholbach | hope we'll all see each other and sign keys :-) | 10:55 |
| siretart | actually, who receives mails to keyring@? | 10:55 |
| thom | elmo, probably | 10:56 |
| \sh | what can I send to keyring@? | 10:56 |
| astharot | dholbach: so tell me what to do :) | 10:56 |
| dholbach | astharot: send a signed CoC to mako | 10:56 |
| dholbach | astharot: then kindly read wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | hi dholbach | 10:56 |
| dholbach | hey ajmitch | 10:56 |
| siretart | \sh: if I read Uploads correctly, thats where we are supposed to send the gpg key. | 10:56 |
| astharot | dholbach: already sent the CoC to mako | 10:57 |
| dholbach | rock | 10:57 |
| dholbach | eben better | 10:57 |
| astharot | and he confirmed my "membership" :) | 10:57 |
| siretart | I thought the signed key was required for membership already. I sent it to mako that time but never got response. anyway, will resend | 10:58 |
| ivoks | i hope one day i'll be like you, guys :) | 10:58 |
| dholbach | the key is essential for elmo to get it in the keyring | 10:59 |
| dholbach | ivoks: absolutely | 10:59 |
| dholbach | ivoks: you're member already? | 10:59 |
| ivoks | nope | 10:59 |
| dholbach | ivoks: or will we do that in next meeting? | 10:59 |
| \sh | dholbach: hes on the list for today | 10:59 |
| dholbach | ROCK | 10:59 |
| ivoks | i guess in an hour | 10:59 |
| \sh | siretart: u read on the http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUOnceYouAreApproved the sentence after "Uploads"? | 11:00 |
| siretart | \sh: ah, thats the page I was searching for. thanks for the pointer! | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | ah well, I forgot there was a meeting today | 11:01 |
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| ivoks | :) | 11:02 |
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| ivoks | ajmitch: u missed all the joy and happines | 11:02 |
| === ajmitch feels disconnected from ubuntu dev lately :) | ||
| dholbach | briefly: it all went well, VERY well | 11:03 |
| \sh | I hope i made it right now with this mail ;) | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: in other words, you're aproved for main? ;) | 11:04 |
| dholbach | elmo and mako will tell you | 11:04 |
| dholbach | yes, tseng as well, \sh, siretart and astharot are fellow MOTUs | 11:04 |
| ogra | :-D | 11:05 |
| siretart | wooohoo! :) | 11:05 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: < Seveas> ahh, so that's why dholbach is approved for main: fast breakage | 11:05 |
| ivoks | :) | 11:05 |
| === ajmitch might apply in a few months, once he has something worthwhile | ||
| tritium | dholbach, congratulations! Now don't forget to write that thesis and graduate ;) | 11:05 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: your work is ABSOLUTELY good enough for main stuff | 11:06 |
| ivoks | true | 11:06 |
| dholbach | tritium: thanks :-)) | 11:06 |
| Nafallo | tritium: he has already graduated to main ;-) | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: nah, I wouldn't want to break main | 11:06 |
| tritium | Nafallo, indeed | 11:06 |
| \sh | hmmm..should I send another email to uploads@ i send an email already to this address ;) | 11:08 |
| === ajmitch is counting down the days until lectures finish at uni | ||
| tritium | ajmitch, I too feel quite disconnected right now. :( | 11:08 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: it's more fun :-) | 11:08 |
| dholbach | tritium: me too | 11:08 |
| dholbach | tritium: i just showed up for the meetings | 11:08 |
| === tritium misses the "good ol' days" | ||
| dholbach | they're coming back :-) | 11:09 |
| ajmitch | so far I've hardly done anything on CXX Transition :( | 11:10 |
| tritium | dholbach, yes, they will... | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | ogra: I agree, wiki lists are evil for tracking transitions ;) | 11:11 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: me not much either | 11:11 |
| \sh | ajmitch: it's the wrong tool for those things | 11:11 |
| ajmitch | I always worry that I'm going to slip & break the wiki page when I edit | 11:11 |
| ogra | i'm just concerned about the huge amount of lost time | 11:12 |
| \sh | ajmitch: i did it the last time...i I didn't know why.. in the textarea everything looked fine..until I found out, there was a hidden char ;) | 11:12 |
| dholbach | if you all keep staring at the wiki instead of fixing package ;-p | 11:13 |
| astharot | dholbach: can I query you? :) | 11:13 |
| \sh | dholbach: it's a mess to jump between bugzilla and wiki | 11:13 |
| ogra | yep | 11:13 |
| ogra | absolutely | 11:13 |
| dholbach | astharot: fire away | 11:13 |
| \sh | RT or bugzilla / malone is just enough | 11:13 |
| dholbach | most guys don't want to use the bugtracker as a transitionhelper | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | RT sounds like it would work | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | I know jbailey has set it up before :) | 11:14 |
| ogra | dholbach, seb128 isnt "most guys" ;) | 11:14 |
| ogra | ajmitch, yep, tat was the plan after the last MOTU meeting... | 11:15 |
| ajmitch | ogra: which I also missed :( | 11:15 |
| ogra | but it will only help infuture transitions | 11:15 |
| \sh | ajmitch: it's a nice tool...easy to handle, good email handling | 11:15 |
| jbailey | ajmitch: Eh? | 11:15 |
| ajmitch | jbailey: haven't you done RT in your dark past? | 11:15 |
| ogra | jbailey, i think he muddles you with elmo | 11:15 |
| jbailey | Not so dark past. I was working on CAnonical's RT install this morning. | 11:15 |
| ajmitch | aha | 11:15 |
| jbailey | ogra: Not hard. We look quite alike. | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:16 |
| ogra | jbailey, could it be reached from the outside world ? to help MOTU ? | 11:16 |
| jbailey | ogra: The accent is also hard to distinguish. =) | 11:16 |
| \sh | ogra: no | 11:16 |
| ogra | hehe | 11:16 |
| jbailey | ogra: Just need elmo's approval on it, but I'd be happy with that. | 11:16 |
| \sh | ogra: we had this the last time :) | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | ogra: don't worry, I did know it was jbailey who had worked with RT | 11:16 |
| ogra | jbailey, ow, great.... if you need help to convince him, ping me | 11:16 |
| \sh | I was maintainer for RT at lycos ;) after remedy was thrown away ;) | 11:17 |
| jbailey | ogra: I'm also usually a sysadmin rather than a coder by trade. =) | 11:17 |
| === ajmitch is a slacker by trade :) | ||
| ogra | jbailey, hmm... i'm still looking for a DBA for the hwdb ;) | 11:17 |
| ogra | else i have to do it mself :) | 11:18 |
| ogra | +y | 11:18 |
| jbailey | ogra: postgresql and I are not friends. | 11:18 |
| ogra | jbailey, sad.... we dont even know each other.... i saw her once on the other side of the road... | 11:18 |
| ogra | ;) | 11:18 |
| jbailey | ogra: She ain't pretty she just looks that way. | 11:19 |
| ogra | lol | 11:19 |
| ogra | i once had a little affair with oracle , but i had a DBA i could kick there... | 11:20 |
| \sh | ogra: u don't have an affair with oracle...u love her or u hate her | 11:20 |
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| ogra | \sh, as long as i had william i didnt have to care much about the relationship ;) | 11:21 |
| \sh | and a woman who is behaving differently on three men -> I can't cope with her ;) | 11:21 |
| ogra | heh | 11:22 |
| \sh | ok..i updated the motu page | 11:23 |
| \sh | i send an email to keyring with teh data which is needed from https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUOnceYouAreApproved | 11:23 |
| \sh | I send an email to uploads@ long time ago | 11:23 |
| \sh | i should be ready | 11:23 |
| dholbach | uploads@ and keyring@ ? | 11:23 |
| \sh | coc is signed and mako approved it | 11:23 |
| dholbach | just ask elmo what happened with you, once he's awake again | 11:24 |
| \sh | dholbach: uploads@ for email whitelisting | 11:24 |
| \sh | and keyring@, cause I'm not sure if my gpg key is in ubuntus keyring | 11:24 |
| ivoks | ah... sweet wories :) | 11:24 |
| dholbach | \sh: no, not yet, but today you should send it :-) | 11:25 |
| \sh | dholbach: what to send? I send everything ;) | 11:26 |
| dholbach | sign it, tell that you were approved and you send a bouquet of flowers, if it all works out :-) | 11:26 |
| === \sh is confused now? what to sign? | ||
| \sh | well, it's late and I'm old :) so I'm excused ;) | 11:27 |
| ogra | just send your key and mail uploads@ | 11:27 |
| tseng | back | 11:27 |
| \sh | oh | 11:27 |
| tseng | is meeting still on? | 11:27 |
| \sh | ok | 11:27 |
| ogra | hey tseng | 11:27 |
| dholbach | welcome to main, tseng ! | 11:27 |
| \sh | tseng: congrats :) | 11:27 |
| tseng | dholbach: yay! | 11:28 |
| tseng | thanks all | 11:28 |
| ogra | hey tseng youre MAINtainer | 11:28 |
| === dholbach hugs tseng :-) | ||
| === tseng hugs dholbach | ||
| === ogra hugs tseng | ||
| tseng | since i know you got it too :) | 11:28 |
| siretart | tseng: congratulations! | 11:28 |
| ogra | tseng, lets move MONO !!!!! | 11:28 |
| dholbach | :-) | 11:28 |
| ajmitch | well done tseng | 11:28 |
| ivoks | hehey | 11:29 |
| ivoks | another MAINer in here | 11:29 |
| ivoks | :) | 11:29 |
| === ajmitch waits patiently for apt | ||
| tseng | ogra: now to get seeding :) | 11:31 |
| ogra | yep | 11:31 |
| \sh | ok..mail send to upload@ | 11:32 |
| ajmitch | seems that we're losing all the MOTUs to main | 11:32 |
| ogra | ajmitch, there are new ones in the queue | 11:33 |
| dholbach | no.. you're not losing anyone | 11:33 |
| tseng | ajmitch: half my stuff is staying in universe probably | 11:34 |
| ogra | dholbach and i are bound to MOTU.... | 11:34 |
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| ajmitch | hi Unfrgiven | 11:34 |
| tseng | Unfrgiven: hiya | 11:34 |
| dholbach | hey Unfrgiven | 11:34 |
| Unfrgiven | good morning all | 11:35 |
| ogra | hey | 11:35 |
| Unfrgiven | im so pumped.... gonna become an offcial ubuntu member :) | 11:35 |
| Unfrgiven | hows everyone else? | 11:35 |
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| dholbach | 07:36 at your place, Unfrgiven ? | 11:36 |
| Unfrgiven | yep :) | 11:36 |
| ogra | tseng, we'll have to decide what apps go to main, thim proposed to move nearly everything | 11:36 |
| ogra | thom even | 11:36 |
| tseng | ok | 11:36 |
| Unfrgiven | tseng did you become a main uploader? | 11:36 |
| tseng | Unfrgiven: yes | 11:37 |
| \sh | I promise I'm listening to the right music now :) Queen - Flash Gordon ;) An opera for heroes for a team of heroes :) | 11:37 |
| Unfrgiven | tseng: thats awesome! congrats | 11:37 |
| tseng | Unfrgiven: thanks dude. | 11:37 |
| tseng | \sh: that song is cool | 11:37 |
| tseng | FLASH! OOOOO-OH | 11:37 |
| === ajmitch waits for another build failure :) | ||
| \sh | tseng: 3GB of Queen mp3s right now and right here in my playlist | 11:37 |
| Unfrgiven | ok guys, im just going to drop off my wife to work and be right back for the CC meeting. | 11:37 |
| tseng | k | 11:37 |
| ajmitch | I hate it when the config.* stuff gets into the debdiff | 11:38 |
| \sh | hahaha | 11:39 |
| \sh | so i'm not the only loser ;) | 11:39 |
| \sh | it cost me 1 1/2 day to find a proper solution ;) | 11:39 |
| \sh | ajmitch: which package? | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | \sh: one that I just did a c++ transition on, why? | 11:41 |
| \sh | ajmitch: i had this problem with "dar" (also cxx trans) | 11:41 |
| ajmitch | I haven't exactly got a 'proper' solution for it | 11:42 |
| \sh | btw...u heard about http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GCC4CommonProblems | 11:42 |
| \sh | ? | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | and what did you do to fix it? | 11:45 |
| \sh | well, I copied new config.* in the configuration section of rules | 11:46 |
| === ajmitch doesn't like having to change the debian/rules too much just for a transition :) | ||
| \sh | that helped...after that I had this gettext error on amd64 and ia64 ... and put gettextize and autoreconf in the configure section... | 11:46 |
| \sh | ajmitch: ask ogra, he was forcing me too :) | 11:46 |
| === ajmitch sees great lag | ||
| \sh | ajmitch: and in "dar"s rules file, he copied the config.* stuff in the clean: target | 11:47 |
| ivoks | oh, crap :( | 11:47 |
| ogra | ajmitch, rather change the rules then provide a 1GB patch with config{sub,guess} | 11:47 |
| ivoks | o erased config. from my patches | 11:48 |
| ivoks | they are pointless | 11:48 |
| ajmitch | no, and it doesn't appear to tell me much ;) | 11:50 |
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| === ajmitch sighs | ||
| ivoks | wrong button? ;) | 11:53 |
| \sh | ivoks: get a jabber account ;) | 11:53 |
| ivoks | \sh: ? what for? :) | 11:54 |
| ivoks | i have it | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: no, freenode issues, of course :) | 11:54 |
| ivoks | it;s ivoks :) | 11:54 |
| \sh | ivoks: ivoks@jabber.org ? | 11:54 |
| ivoks | yes | 11:54 |
| === ajmitch has a jabber account that gets used sometimes :) | ||
| \sh | ivoks: go online :) | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | \sh: so did you have a fix for the config.* getting trodden on? :) | 11:55 |
| \sh | ajmitch: show me the rule file :) | 11:55 |
| ivoks | there | 11:56 |
| === ajmitch is working remotely, can't really do that | ||
| \sh | ajmitch: send it via jabber or email :) jid: sh@linux-server.org email: sh@sourcecode.de | 11:56 |
| ajmitch | why do you need to see it? :) | 11:56 |
| ajmitch | it's fairly standard | 11:57 |
| ivoks | it copies config.* from /usr/share/misc | 11:57 |
| \sh | ok...then try to find the config.* changes in the rule file (or patches) remove them (at least in the clean target) and copy them or autoreconf them in the configure target | 11:57 |
| ivoks | and that's in clean :) | 11:57 |
| \sh | yeah | 11:58 |
| \sh | remove it there | 11:58 |
| \sh | and put them in configure target | 11:58 |
| ajmitch | sounds evil | 11:58 |
| ivoks | the main thing is that it's after generating .dsc | 11:58 |
| \sh | yeah, cause debuild -S / debuild is calling: clean target first | 11:59 |
| ivoks | well... meeting | 11:59 |
| \sh | but configure target is not triggered for diff.gz | 11:59 |
| ogra | http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/ | 12:01 |
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