| Riddell | uniq: say your name | 12:03 |
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| uniq | riddell: ok. | 12:03 |
| amu | *lol* | 12:16 |
| uniq | :) | 12:17 |
| uniq | well.. gnite guys. | 01:51 |
| uniq | work in 5 hours.. | 01:51 |
| Riddell | guid nicht | 01:51 |
| uniq | god natt | 01:51 |
| uniq | in norwegian. | 01:51 |
| uniq | :) | 01:51 |
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| amu | boa noite | 02:36 |
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| JRe | morning | 09:42 |
| hunger | morning | 10:04 |
| hunger | Any news about cxx migration of kde in breezy? | 10:05 |
| === hunger heared there were some gcc 4 fixes for KDE from suse. | ||
| JRe | cxx mirgration seems to not be so easy as recompiling :) | 10:10 |
| hunger | JRe: I can imagine. I helped migrate a cxx project to gcc 3:-) | 10:11 |
| amu | moin2 | 10:11 |
| JRe | hunger: ;) | 10:12 |
| hunger | But kdelibs, kdebase, arts and qt seem to be there already? | 10:13 |
| JRe | yeah that's why i have understood | 10:14 |
| hunger | Those should be the hardest parts, or so I thought. | 10:14 |
| JRe | hunger: yeah it should | 10:17 |
| JRe | ho cool we are on the road to have ivman in debian ;) | 10:18 |
| JRe | hunger: kdelibs_4:3.4.1-0ubuntu2_20050525-0443-i386-failed.gz | 10:20 |
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| hunger | Oh... | 10:20 |
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| JRe | hunger: but kdelibs_4:3.4.1-0ubuntu2_20050525-0443-powerpc-successful.gz ;) | 10:21 |
| hunger | JRe: Lets all buy powerpcs now :-) | 10:29 |
| JRe | hunger: :) :) | 10:30 |
| JRe | it seems the the 4.3.1 is a way more stable than the 3.4.0 (it's what i read on planetdebian) | 10:31 |
| hunger | JRe: 4.3.1? | 10:31 |
| JRe | hunger: 3.4.1 ;) | 10:32 |
| JRe | dislexic typing | 10:33 |
| hunger | JRe: How does that help with the gcc 4 migration? | 10:33 |
| JRe | hunger: it does not help the migration but the user :) | 10:33 |
| hunger | JRe: Yeah, I know this "too many fingers on keyboad" errors. | 10:33 |
| JRe | hunger: ;) | 10:33 |
| hunger | X transistion is progressing... so far 500k were moved out of X11R6 since the fonts were splitt out. | 10:35 |
| === hunger is happy with breezy. | ||
| JRe | hunger: so many transition these days ;) qt4 gcc3.4 kde3.4.1 x | 10:35 |
| hunger | I hope I will manage to stick with breezy for a while once it becomes stable. | 10:36 |
| hunger | JRe: Yes, the breezygoals are somewhat ambitious. | 10:36 |
| JRe | hunger: yeah sure | 10:37 |
| === hunger is looking forward to networkmagic. | ||
| JRe | but for now the only way i have to test breezy is a debootstrap chroot | 10:38 |
| hunger | even though I will need to modify it somewhat as it is just too dangerous for my taste. | 10:39 |
| JRe | hunger: what is network magic ? | 10:40 |
| hunger | JRe: network autoconfiguration. | 10:40 |
| JRe | hunger: okay it's kind of cool ;) | 10:40 |
| hunger | JRe: unfortunately they think that forwarding wlan into the net is a good idea... | 10:41 |
| hunger | JRe: s/net/ethernet/ | 10:41 |
| JRe | how | 10:42 |
| JRe | :( | 10:42 |
| hunger | JRe: Dunno... the assumption is that someone with both wlan and ethernet wants to provide internet access to others. | 10:43 |
| hunger | So I guess it well be NATing... | 10:43 |
| hunger | Anyway, my computer may never do that without me explicitly configuring it. | 10:43 |
| hunger | My customers will kill me if I my box turns into an AP in their intranet... | 10:45 |
| JRe | hunger: ;9 | 10:57 |
| JRe | i have both wlan and ethernet i use wlan to connect to internet (11mb/s) and ethernet to local network(100mb/s) | 10:57 |
| JRe | Riddell: BTW the way i have put online a screenshot of my little plugged device notification application | 11:03 |
| JRe | Riddell: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/kay1.jpg | 11:03 |
| amu | cooool, <X> do nothing ;) | 11:08 |
| JRe | amu: what do you mean? | 11:11 |
| Riddell | JRe: interesting | 11:16 |
| Riddell | JRe: does it do that exact thing for all usb storage devices? | 11:17 |
| JRe | Riddell: at this time yes | 11:19 |
| JRe | Riddell: but it can easily been changed | 11:20 |
| JRe | Riddell: and if i use ivman instead of usbmount, i'll be able to present dialog for cds, ... | 11:20 |
| JRe | Riddell: i was also thinking about let the user add some customized actions ;) | 11:21 |
| Riddell | JRe: what's it written in? | 11:22 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah like add a "Launch with myapp" in the list | 11:23 |
| JRe | Riddell: in fact i develop it mainly to help new user and specially for kubuntu so i am opened to all suggestions | 11:24 |
| Riddell | which programming language? | 11:24 |
| JRe | Riddell: C++ / QT (it's a DCOP service) | 11:25 |
| JRe | Riddell: you call it this way: dcop kay plug notifyPlugged mountpoint device model | 11:26 |
| Riddell | I'm definatly interested, need to get ivman working first then get it talking to your stuff | 11:27 |
| Riddell | which will be after 3.4.1 gets sorted | 11:28 |
| JRe | Riddell: okay i have seen a response to the ivman package request so maybe we will have a package soon, i continue improvments and thinks by my side | 11:28 |
| JRe | How does the ubuntu autobuilder work? i change the debian changelog file to replace the version by the ubuntu version? | 12:47 |
| JRe | from the debian source package? | 12:48 |
| Riddell | JRe: which autobuilder? | 12:49 |
| Riddell | packages are uploaded to ubuntu same as to debian | 12:49 |
| Riddell | you just add -2ubuntu1 onto the version instead of adding -2 | 12:49 |
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| JRe | Riddell: it's done manually for all the packages? there is no automatic packaging of the new debian package for example? where can ifound doc to read about that? | 12:51 |
| Riddell | JRe: there's a debian autosyncer wheejum which pulls in packages from debian and makes a report in bugzilla if there's merges need made with the ubuntu version | 12:53 |
| Riddell | it's turned off just now due to c++ transition | 12:53 |
| JRe | Riddell: okay i understand better now, thanks ;) | 12:54 |
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| amu | hmmm whats the problem with amd64 kdelibs ? | 02:02 |
| amu | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/kdelibs/4:3.4.1-0ubuntu2/ | 02:03 |
| Riddell | amu: just build daemons not getting round to it I guess | 02:03 |
| Riddell | kde/kdelibs_4:3.4.1-0ubuntu2: Dep-Wait by buildd+crested [optional:out-of-date] | 02:04 |
| Riddell | Dependencies: libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.4) | 02:04 |
| === amu redefines his question, what the problem with amd64, the buildd for it, are down, busy? | ||
| Riddell | and qt isn't built | 02:06 |
| Riddell | libs/qt-x11-free_3:3.3.4-1ubuntu3: Dep-Wait by buildd+crested [optional:out-of-date] | 02:07 |
| Riddell | Dependencies: libmysqlclient-dev | 02:07 |
| JRe | ;) | 02:18 |
| JRe | jackass.ubuntu.com ;) ;) ;) | 02:22 |
| lamont | Riddell: ah ha! | 02:38 |
| lamont | have I mentioned that I hate build-deps on virtual packages>? | 02:38 |
| Riddell | lamont: I suspect I've heard it in passing | 02:40 |
| Riddell | lamont: I'll upload a new qt shall I with build-dep only on mysql 12 | 02:41 |
| lamont | Riddell: well, I cleared it again | 02:41 |
| lamont | so you don't _need_ to do it | 02:41 |
| lamont | but if the next upload quit using virtual packages, that'd make my life happier... | 02:41 |
| Riddell | ok | 02:42 |
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| doko | Riddell, please keep my changes to the build deps ... ;) | 03:03 |
| Riddell | doko: where havn't I? | 03:07 |
| doko | sorry, then it was amu ... ;) | 03:09 |
| Riddell | doko: which package? | 03:11 |
| doko | qt | 03:12 |
| uniq | hello. | 03:16 |
| JRe | lo uniq | 03:16 |
| uniq | hi jre. | 03:16 |
| uniq | amu: for the ipod slave.. would a good packagename be kio-ipodslave ? | 03:17 |
| uniq | or just kio-ipod ? | 03:17 |
| uniq | jre: what do you like best? | 03:18 |
| JRe | kio-ipodslave | 03:18 |
| Riddell | uniq: kio-ipod seems better | 03:18 |
| JRe | ;) | 03:18 |
| uniq | heh.. ok :) | 03:18 |
| uniq | I like kio-ipod my self. | 03:19 |
| JRe | damn i am the only man standing for ipodslave ;) | 03:19 |
| amu | kpod ? | 03:19 |
| JRe | slavepod? | 03:20 |
| amu | that's the project name ... slave is kind of discrimiating :) | 03:20 |
| JRe | ;) ;) ;) | 03:20 |
| hunger | amu: Why are you agitating against a age old profession? ;-) | 03:21 |
| hunger | amu: kpod sounds a lot like "kaputt" (german for broken). | 03:23 |
| amu | hunger: you can discuss with mark about it ;) | 03:23 |
| JRe | hum i have discover a kind-of-cool application that may interests kubuntu users: KToon (to make some animation) | 03:24 |
| JRe | http://ktoon.toonka.com/ | 03:25 |
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| JRe | should we package? | 03:25 |
| Riddell | JRe: sure, looks cool | 03:33 |
| JRe | Riddell: okay i'll take care of that | 03:33 |
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| JRe | if anyone compile and test kftpgrabber, can he tell me if when transfering, the analyzer does work? | 04:04 |
| uniq | amu: ready to take a look at the kio-ipod package? and test it? | 04:04 |
| JRe | uniq: need to have a ipod to test it ;) ? | 04:06 |
| uniq | yes. | 04:06 |
| uniq | ipod:/ :) | 04:06 |
| JRe | uniq: sorry the only thing i have is an usb stick ;) | 04:07 |
| uniq | yes.. me to. | 04:07 |
| uniq | or.. two usb-disks and one stick. | 04:07 |
| uniq | and a camera. | 04:07 |
| uniq | .. mouse+keyboard. | 04:07 |
| uniq | no ipod yet. | 04:07 |
| JRe | uniq: i guess you have a screen | 04:07 |
| uniq | not usb :) | 04:07 |
| JRe | uniq: ;) | 04:08 |
| amu | uniq: sure .. | 04:08 |
| JRe | uniq: and you're packaging kio-ipod for the rich people ;) | 04:08 |
| JRe | uniq: where is your repo? | 04:09 |
| uniq | amu: i'll have to one small thing first. | 04:09 |
| uniq | jre: frode.kde.no/ubuntu/ | 04:10 |
| JRe | uniq: what is gamin? | 04:11 |
| uniq | jre: fam replacement (as in file alternation monitor) | 04:11 |
| uniq | ps ax|grep gam | 04:12 |
| uniq | amu: can you use amd64 debs? | 04:12 |
| JRe | uniq: okay i see it, i will take a look in /usr/share/doc | 04:12 |
| uniq | it's not very informative. | 04:13 |
| uniq | http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/ | 04:13 |
| uniq | Maybe i could commit that gamin package to breezy.. it's a simple upgrade. | 04:14 |
| amu | uniq: amd64 thats a small atm ... i386 prefered | 04:16 |
| uniq | k. | 04:16 |
| amu | uniq: or the source, would be better | 04:16 |
| uniq | ok.. source it is. | 04:16 |
| uniq | http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/kio-ipod/ | 04:16 |
| JRe | uniq: thanx for the links i understand well now ;) | 04:17 |
| uniq | you're welcome :) | 04:20 |
| uniq | i'm diving back into kdar. | 04:20 |
| uniq | oh.. it's dinner time.. | 04:21 |
| uniq | bbl guys. | 04:21 |
| JRe | good appetite 1 | 04:24 |
| Riddell | JRe: you probably know this but the English language equivalent of "bon appetit" isn't "good appetite", it's "bon appetite" :) | 04:26 |
| JRe | Riddell: i was not aware! | 04:26 |
| JRe | Riddell: thanks :) | 04:27 |
| JRe | so bon appetite! | 04:27 |
| Riddell | he he | 04:27 |
| JRe | i speak too many languages so i mix each other and say very bad things :( | 04:28 |
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| Riddell | we have an impressive 28 people on kubuntu-bugs, I wonder why they're all so interested in our bugzilla reports | 05:22 |
| uniq | hehe :) | 05:23 |
| KaiL | because normaly 27 of them can't reproduce the bug? :) | 05:23 |
| JRe | ;) ;) ;) | 05:23 |
| Riddell | KaiL: then they would CC themselves on the report on bugzilla | 05:28 |
| Riddell | but subscribing to all kubuntu reports, that's dedication for you | 05:28 |
| KaiL | btw, how to subscribe to all? :) | 05:29 |
| Riddell | KaiL: all kubuntu bugzilla reports? join kubuntu-bugs on lists.ubuntu.com | 05:29 |
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| JRe | I gonna suscribe also ;) | 05:30 |
| Riddell | cool :) | 05:32 |
| KaiL | ...now you have 29 | 05:33 |
| JRe | ;) | 05:40 |
| uniq | now, if i subscribe one second time.. we'll have 30 :) | 05:44 |
| JRe | okay suscribed! | 05:45 |
| uniq | we got 30 :) | 05:45 |
| JRe | the hottest mailing list ever ;) | 05:46 |
| JRe | i sucribed to breezy-changes too so i will no longer be out of date ;) ! | 05:49 |
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| uniq | amu: tell me what you think of the new kio-ipod packages.. please http:/frode.kde.no/ubuntu/kio-ipod - thanks :) | 07:45 |
| amu | the name is already wrong | 08:06 |
| uniq | source package name? | 08:09 |
| uniq | or package name? | 08:09 |
| uniq | source tarball should have the ipodslave name? | 08:10 |
| amu | dpkg-source: warning: source directory `./ipodslave-0.6.3' is not <sourcepackage>-<upstreamversion> `kio-ipod-0.6.3' | 08:11 |
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| amu | ipodslave-0.6.3.tgz is the original upstream name : it becomes ipodslave_0.6.3.orig.tar.gz and your deb is named ipodslave_0.6.3-0ubuntu1_arch.deb | 08:14 |
| uniq | ko. | 08:15 |
| amu | if you still want name it kio-ipod, you need a virtual package *ducks* | 08:16 |
| uniq | understand. | 08:17 |
| amu | ... and you will be lamonts best friend :) | 08:17 |
| uniq | I won't bother.. i'll just name it ipodslave. | 08:17 |
| uniq | hehe.. i've heard he loves those virtual packages :) | 08:17 |
| amu | no prob, i thought before you where joking ;) | 08:18 |
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| amu | just ping me, i can make a final review. | 08:18 |
| uniq | great :) | 08:18 |
| uniq | kdar is a bitch btw. | 08:19 |
| amu | uniq: next part is, a package for debian | 08:19 |
| uniq | yes :) | 08:19 |
| amu | if you package something usefull, we can upload it also to debian | 08:20 |
| uniq | great :) | 08:20 |
| amu | s/something/is something/ | 08:21 |
| uniq | libdar in ubuntu doesn't seem to support blowfish.. | 08:22 |
| uniq | atleast the cpp headers doesn't.. | 08:22 |
| uniq | amu: http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/ipodslave/ | 08:24 |
| uniq | does it actually work with your ipod? :) | 08:24 |
| amu | no, i'm not sure, what's wrong, the pathname are cutted, and i've no mp3 support for my desktop :) | 08:26 |
| uniq | heh.. ok. | 08:26 |
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| uniq | .. /usr/include/kde/kswap.h is missing from kdelibs4-dev (3.4.1-0ubuntu2). Is that intentional? | 09:51 |
| Riddell | uniq: kntlminclude_HEADERS = kntlm.h | 09:55 |
| Riddell | it's not in the Makefile.am to be installed | 09:55 |
| Riddell | is it part of the public API? | 09:55 |
| uniq | i'll chekc. | 09:56 |
| uniq | check. | 09:56 |
| Riddell | uniq: how did you notice? | 09:58 |
| uniq | compiling ipodslave in breezy chroot. | 09:58 |
| Riddell | hmm | 09:59 |
| Riddell | "don't install kswap.h, it depends on config.h and really shouldn't be part of KDE API." | 10:13 |
| Riddell | uniq: you'll need to take a copy of kswap.h and change #include <kswap.h to #include "kswap.h" | 10:13 |
| Riddell | uniq: and notify the author | 10:14 |
| uniq | ok then. | 10:14 |
| Riddell | thanks for testing breezy :) | 10:14 |
| uniq | do you have a url for refference? | 10:14 |
| uniq | -f in reference :) | 10:14 |
| uniq | nvermind.. found a mailinglist entry. | 10:15 |
| Riddell | svn log for kdelibs/kio/misc/kntlm/ | 10:15 |
| Riddell | svn log for kdelibs/kio/misc/kntlm/kswap.h | 10:16 |
| uniq | ok. thanks. | 10:16 |
| uniq | mail sendt.. and ipodslave compiled :) | 10:26 |
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| cartel_ | arrgh | 11:37 |
| cartel_ | Riddell: new bug | 11:37 |
| cartel_ | :( | 11:39 |
| uniq | #11193 ? | 11:40 |
| cartel_ | apt-get install eric3 | 11:40 |
| cartel_ | eric | 11:40 |
| cartel_ | TypeError: argument 1 of QSizePolicy() has an invalid type | 11:40 |
| cartel_ | Segmentation fault | 11:40 |
| uniq | breezy or hoary = | 11:41 |
| uniq | =/? | 11:41 |
| cartel_ | hoary universe | 11:41 |
| cartel_ | apparently bugged by python2.4-qt3 | 11:41 |
| cartel_ | ill check if latest official is bugged | 11:42 |
| cartel_ | latest is 2 majors incremented from the ver in universe | 11:43 |
| cartel_ | ok, i checked out the latest sid package and sed'd it for python2.3/python2.4, works fine | 11:57 |
| cartel_ | *cooks up bug report* | 12:00 |
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