=== merhojt [~jimmy@h218n5c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] anyone else experienced problems with firefox? like ie. not being able to delete any bookmarks or cookies? [12:15] well.. i'll call it a day.. gnite. [12:17] well I usto have that with internet explorer back in the day when I used windows pointwood [12:18] that's really a bit help SlicerDicer ;) === BobiTrobi [~bob@BSN-77-15-106.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] got a default 75dpi detection by xorg but fonts under gtk apps are too small ( http://amigrave.com/upload/posts/ubuntu/snapshot1.png ) should I force the use of a bigger dpi setting or is there another way ? [12:28] pointwood, sorry I dont know otherwise lol === kay [~kay@p54A38BEE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === N17r0 [~haxor@amf-zlh-90d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === jeramy [~jeramy@dsl-142-44.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu === nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === agis [~agis@vol-ppp9b.dialup.uth.gr] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.208] has joined #kubuntu === alonso [~alonso@200-33-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu === apollo2011_ [~apollo201@69.37.207.19] has joined #kubuntu [12:57] Where is the grub config files stored on kubuntu? it incorrectly detected my suse os, because I also had a Xen entry which doesn't work. I would rahter use the SuSE grub loader anyway. I need to know the info to manually add kubuntu to suse grub [12:58] nvm, found the menu.lst in boot/grub === alonso [~alonso@200-33-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu === ojw_ [~ojw@213.78.73.26] has joined #kubuntu === ojw_ [~ojw@213.78.73.26] has left #kubuntu ["KDE] === alonso [~alonso@200-33-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu === transgress_ [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu [01:15] AMIGrAve: you can force a bigger DPI but it is better to do things properly... Things are a bit of a mess though. === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [01:19] anyone knows where the profile folder for firefox is located in kubuntu ? === darut [~darut@host-ip82-199.crowley.pl] has joined #kubuntu === ksut [~ksut@69.37.207.19] has joined #kubuntu === apollo2011 [~ksut@69.37.207.19] has joined #kubuntu [01:28] How do I install the nvidia driver and get 3d support? [01:31] How do I install the nvidia driver and get 3d support? === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === alonso [~alonso@200-33-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] Hellooooooooooo [01:34] how do i fuckinh use this [01:34] ? [01:35] can anyone ready my messages or I'm invisible [01:35] you 're visible [01:36] yayyyy [01:36] where can I get some help with my distro? === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:48] hmm [01:48] I'm compiling subversion, it needs the berkeley db [01:49] what's it in the apt repositories? === toonX [~x@215.Red-83-52-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] okay when hotplugging my external hard drive into my desktop dmesg spits this at me: [02:04] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 [02:04] Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 [02:04] i just reformatted this drive as it was ntfs and i thought that to be the problem [02:04] but it's not... and the only thing that seems to want to mount it is gnome === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.TclCoder.Org] has joined #Kubuntu === sirk [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-68-167-204-240.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === sirk is now known as sirukin [02:16] bleh === toonX [~x@215.Red-83-52-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:22] got a strange problem with kubuntu , the artsd keeps crashing and crashing ! can't play anything in Kaffeine or amaroK! === Diablo-D3 [diablo@65.99.191.6] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] xmms is about the only music program that "works" with artsd [02:23] any ideas? === N17R0 [~n17r0@amf-zlh-90d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Vjaz [peksi@ranssi.paivola.net] has joined #kubuntu === Diablo-D3 is now known as DiabloD3 [02:32] Hi. I'm wondering, is there any significant difference between installing Kubuntu or installing Ubuntu and then installing KDE (and removing Gnome)? [02:33] I'm interested in trying Kubuntu out, but I want to know if I'm missing out on something if I just install KDE on my Ubuntu bo. [02:33] box* [02:36] So if I do an 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop', is the result mostly the same as installing Kubuntu from scratch? [02:38] essentially. [02:39] Good. [02:40] I guess I might need to change GDM to KDM myself? === sproingie [~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:00] alright i have Kubuntu, and i downloaded the newest firefox .tar.gz and run the setup and then i choose to let it install to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox. But i can't run it via the KDE menu, only via console with ./firefox command. So i remove the folder mozilla-firefox to install it on the official way using kynaptic, but now i cant run it at all even with the ./firefox command it aint working. === WB0TRA [~WB0TRA@69.46.204.243] has joined #kubuntu === _miguel [~miguel@10001111086.0000006143.acesso.oni.pt] has joined #kubuntu [03:18] N17R0: why not add it when the menu config? [03:18] u mean kde menu? === leandro_ [~leandro@tux14.ltc.ic.unicamp.br] has joined #kubuntu [03:19] i did that but its not starting [03:20] Hi. I would like to install libvisual to get visualizations on amarok. I couldn't find the packge. I have universe and multiverse in my sources.list. This packege is avaliable for kubuntu? [03:24] leandro_: no, it's not [03:28] Does anyone tried touse a package from debian? It wirks? [03:28] this package (libvisual [03:29] I'd recompile it for Kubuntu [03:33] Yes. It is a better idea. [03:49] is it safe to install software from the backport ftp ? [03:49] what is backport for ? [03:49] I'd avoid it [03:50] whether it's safe is not something I can answer === duende [~duende@stjh1-3744.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:51] ok, but is it something like release candidates before the being added to the official repersotry ? [03:52] i mean what is the purpose of the backports ? === WB0TRA [~WB0TRA@69.46.204.243] has left #kubuntu [] [03:54] Is it possible to get Opera like "rocker" gestures for moving back and forth in history for Konqueror? [03:55] Hold left button, press right button for forward, and hold right button, press left button for back. === Hammertoe [~Clovis@dsl-208-16-132-82.olp.net] has joined #kubuntu === Brazmetal [~aguinaldo@200141159199.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] does anybody here stream audio? [04:30] I do [04:31] I stream my audio to uranus! [04:32] crimsun, what do you use? [04:33] I use a stethascope and headphones. [04:33] I use ices2 and icecast2 [04:33] for the decoder, usually ogg123, mpg321, or faad [04:34] crimsun, do you mean the encoder, don't you? [04:34] man, I have a problem.. [04:34] I use shoutcast... And I can stream audio [04:34] using the sc_trans encoder [04:34] or the muse-stremer... [04:35] Brazmetal: no - ogg123, mpg321, and faad are all decoders === Furic [~Eric@c211-30-113-130.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] but I have some problems with hese apps [04:35] Brazmetal: ices2 is the encoder [04:35] Hey linux people [04:35] crimsun, ah... and why do you need a decoder to stream audio?: [04:35] im looking to have ubuntu wallpapers in kdesktop, where can i find them in my system, ubuntu-artwork is installed [04:36] Brazmetal: because the music files are on a remote drive [04:36] ahhh [04:36] they have to be decoded to stdout and fed to ices2 [04:36] ah I understand [04:36] so, How is Ices2? [04:37] oh nevermind, i found em === Furic [~Eric@c211-30-113-130.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] [04:37] i mean... is it capable of chosing songs at any moment? Can I stream my microphone input too? [04:37] Brazmetal: works well enough for my personal tastes [04:38] Brazmetal: ices2 is only an encoder. It doesn't shuffle, repeat, or whatever. [04:38] Yes, you can grab from mic input. [04:38] crimsun, so what do you do to have these options? [04:39] You'd configure alsamixer, arecord to stdout -> ices2's stdin [04:39] ehehhehe complicated [04:41] not really === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.208] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === cantenna [~BlackLabe@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === verden01 [~verden@61.68.231.124] has joined #kubuntu [04:53] Hey [04:54] hey verden01 === cantenna is now known as rommer [05:00] for the users of Kubuntu... Using the lastest versions of kde I could realize that when an app freezes, and you try to close it, few seconds after, a dialog appears asking if you want to kill the app... But this is not happening with Kubuntu...What's the problem? === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === tim_h_ [~Tim@p54A1B8D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === bigkeith [~bigkeith@pool-151-197-195-148.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === sirk [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === tim_h__ [~Tim@p54A1F95F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has joined #kubuntu === Morandir [~Morandir@mn-10k-dhcp1-5425.dsl.hickorytech.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:54] anyone around? [06:02] having issues with kernel panic after apt-get upgrade... [06:09] yep === _Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === _mcooper [~mcooper@vindaloo.connections.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === _mcooper [~mcooper@vindaloo.connections.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has left #kubuntu [] === Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === sirk is now known as sirukin === rohandhruva_ [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === rohandhruva_ [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving..."] [07:17] sooooo [07:17] bout that kernel.. anyone around? [07:18] hmm [07:19] anyone sucessful with bootsplash and ubuntu? === brandonn [~brandonn@66-7-184-2.estreet.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:22] im not even sucessful w/ubuntu atm... [07:22] the kernel keeps panicing... [07:22] :( [07:23] thats weird === zenum [~zenum@138.25.12.125] has joined #kubuntu [07:25] yeah === Morandir goes back to reading more forums... [07:26] and his 5L keg of Heinekien [07:26] does anyone know how to make the windows button bring up the KDE menu? [07:35] zenum: http://docsrv.sco.com:8457/en/kdefaq/configure.html#AEN1914 === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [07:41] hrmmm that site doesnt seem to be loading... === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.IRCNut.Com] has joined #Kubuntu [07:42] nvm, just a proxy prblem === wsg [~wsg@ip68-103-13-66.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:48] anyone know the link to the nvidia installer for ubuntu [07:52] wsg, google.com/linux [07:53] wsg, there is an ubuntu repository with it [07:53] anyone else have trouple with the 2.6?.10 kernel? === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-68-167-204-240.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ikypakis [t6@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu === mrmanic is now known as mrmanic|sleeping === swilry [~swirly@82.227.195.117] has joined #kubuntu === swilry [~swirly@82.227.195.117] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === SlicerDicer- [~Slicer@c-67-160-114-35.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:14] http://kalatlug.nanofreesoft.org/Projects/splashy/relases/splashy_0.1-5_i386.deb [08:15] anybody have a idea why something would be working I kill X cause its locked then when it comes back up libSDL is gone AWOL [08:15] I've been having a few problems with either x or kde as well [08:15] specifically with the handling of large urls in firefox === Tezkah [~Tezkah@d137-186-160-50.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:27] I bid thee all goodnight. *bows* === chavo [~chavo@178.sub-70-212-49.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL [KaiL@p548F44A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [~nicolas@moreau.lirmm.fr] has joined #kubuntu === nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === Ghetek [~administr@c-24-7-52-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:09] anybody know of a good apt-getable program that does stuff with html, something like dreamweaver? [09:10] Ghetek: quanta+ === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:14] am I allowed to be in this room while I use icewm? [09:14] I should probably be banned [09:15] haha [09:15] yes you should!!1 [09:15] ;p [09:15] hey, I use WMaker sometimes === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:24] Can Someone Help me out.... My Kubuntu won't Boot [09:30] hmm, at all? [09:31] I just a kernal upgrade from synaptic and now i get a kernal panic [09:32] ok, so you got wrong/broken kernel [09:32] boot to other kernel then [09:32] they do the same thing [09:32] eh? [09:33] oh please tell you have 2.6.10.5 there too? [09:33] I mean 2.6.10-5 [09:33] yup 2-6-10-5 [09:33] and it doesn't work? === Ghetek [~administr@c-24-7-52-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [09:34] nope doesn't boot... kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) on boot [09:34] ah! [09:34] :o [09:35] apparently the latest kernal from the ubuntu ppl is broken... There is already a bug report on it [09:35] hmm [09:35] phxguy! [09:35] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11135 [09:35] I don't know about it, haven't boot this week yet [09:35] I'm haveing the same problem right now [09:36] -e [09:36] yup this sux really big donkey dick === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:37] oh no :o [09:38] note to self: don't boot yet ;p [09:38] yeah DONT BOOT [09:38] OR youll be screwed like me [09:38] well, no need to reboot =) [09:39] and I don't think I'm in trouble, I have other kernels that works ok [09:39] 2.6.11 stuff [09:39] they didn't broke them yet ;p [09:39] Riddell: ping === Gonzalo [~gporcel@209.42.38.198] has joined #kubuntu [09:40] I don't know if this is the place to do it or if any of the developers hang out here. [09:40] But Kubuntu is one of the finest distributions I have ever used. [09:41] heh [09:41] ubuntu does rock quite hard [09:41] I tried it, sort of reluctantly, and have been using it for 2 months now. Not once has it frozen on me. It is the most pleasant distro I have ever used. [09:41] for some of us its being a pain in th @$$ right now [09:41] Morandir: why? === swilry [~swirly@193.49.39.141] has joined #kubuntu === swilry [~swirly@193.49.39.141] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [09:42] I have been using it intensely for a while and I wasn't a believer. :) [09:42] 1. update kernel - kernel panic [09:42] 2. switch resolution machine freezes [09:42] :o [09:42] 3. install latest ati drivers, apps dont work [09:42] Morandir: Don't scare me, because the last thing I did before turnig off the machine today was update the kernel. [09:42] Gonzalo: have fun [09:43] Gonzalo: hmm, 10 or 11? [09:43] I can't recall. It's on my laptop. [09:43] Gonzalo, well then you are screwed too [09:43] Gonzalo: it looks like grub isnt being told where the correct boot locations are or somethinglike that [09:43] And my wife is sleeping in the room where the laptop is. [09:43] Tm_T: how do you get 11? [09:43] It came through an apt-get update/apt-get upgrade. [09:43] Morandir: I used apt-get ;) [09:44] Gonzalo, the latest kernel is broken [09:44] I used apt-get and it gave me 10 [09:44] Well, I know how to use grub to point it to the correct location if needs be. [09:44] and broke my machine [09:44] Oh, shit! [09:44] Morandir: yeah, you have to ask 11 [09:44] Let me check things out. [09:44] I am going to go and pull that laptop right now. [09:44] heh [09:44] Gonzalo: good luck ;) [09:44] Gonzalo: I tried that but to no avail (since on a software raid (DONT ASK >_<) I dont have anything mounted by the grub) [09:46] This thing is coming right up! [09:46] I am breathing a big freaking sigh of relief! [09:47] you are either not booting the updated kernal or you should buy a few lottery tickets [09:47] Gonzalo: how fortunate you are... unlike some of us who most likely will be building the kernel ourselves [09:47] nope: its booting the updated kernel [09:47] I might have spoken a little too soon. [09:47] Hold on [09:48] uh oh [09:48] cross your fingers [09:48] It seems stuck at trying to bring up the network interface [09:48] hrmm... [09:49] is there a card in there thats not installed or installed but not connected? that could cause hang [09:49] It came up! [09:49] whew === spiritz [~spiritz@194.167.104.20] has joined #kubuntu === spiritz [~spiritz@194.167.104.20] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [09:49] I am running 2.6.10-5-686 === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has joined #kubuntu [09:50] Is that the one that is supposed to be broken? [09:51] ok I need to mount some other parts of my HD like hda10 so how do I do that in kubuntu? [09:51] dewey: what filesystem? === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving..."] [09:52] mount -t ext3 /dev/hda10 /some/mountpoint [09:52] Change that command to match whatever file system you are using. [09:53] sometimes you don't have to give type [09:53] ext3 [09:53] Try the command above as root [09:53] Or use sudo if you are using that. === Church_of_FoamY [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:54] or su -c "foobar" ;p [09:54] anyone know why i am getting dependancy errors while trying to install cedega? [09:55] What dependencies? [09:55] don't know [09:55] i don't know how to get it to tell me [09:55] What happens when you try to install? [09:55] Post the error messages here [09:56] it says that it can't install because there are dependency isshues while instaling cedega [09:56] thats al it tells me [09:56] so i would asume that i need something else to install it [09:57] i just don't know what [09:58] nevermind lol it was libpng3 [09:58] it needed === ole [~ole@adsl-9-173.nordcom.uni-bremen.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:07] hi all === ca3sar [~caesar@p83.129.208.5.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] i am quite new to linux, and i could realy need a little bit of help right now. === snowseal_ [~snowseal@adsl-dc-2dd1a.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] ok, so shoot me [10:09] i cant find the information about the root password in concole [10:09] console* [10:09] there is none if you don't set it [10:09] 2nd my konq crashed over 5 times already. is there a way to check my HDD for errors ? [10:10] well, konqi is crashy in some cases, no it's not your HD [10:10] i didint set a root password in installation, just a user password. wich seems not to give me SU access in console [10:12] i think i got a bigger problem, casue my "personal folder" shows all files in there always twize. and when i delte one of the twins, both are gone. and konq crashed over 5 times in 2 hours of system up :S === Gonzalo [~gporcel@209.42.38.198] has joined #kubuntu === spiritz [~spiritz@194.167.104.20] has joined #kubuntu [10:12] hmm [10:12] strange [10:12] ole you have raid hard-disks? === spiritz [~spiritz@194.167.104.20] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [10:13] no. a new 160gig hdd === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [10:13] only one hdd [10:13] ok, I don't know, sorry :/ === snowseal_ is puzzeled [10:14] yes only one hdd. np tim [10:14] i thought maybe hdd is broken [10:14] tim? [10:14] so i wanted to "scandisk" it :) [10:15] Hi guys, I got disconnected before. [10:15] So my only problem with the kernel upgrade is that dhcp no longer works. [10:15] Static IPs work fine. [10:15] Gonzalo: hmm, funny ;p [10:15] syslog say for example (line 559) May 26 10:03:27 localhost kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadC [10:16] BadCRC }* [10:16] yeah, I came here to tell you how good life had been. I am telling you, the minute you open your mouth... [10:16] :) [10:16] syslog is spamed wiht such lines at about any 20-60 seconds [10:18] Tm_T? What's intereting is that I couldn't find any dhcpd daemon under /etc/init.d/ [10:18] haha [10:18] Which dhcp client does Kubuntu use? [10:18] good guestion [10:19] well, could you look under /etc/init.d/ to see if you have anything resembling a dhcp client in your install? [10:19] hmm, there's none :p [10:20] That boggles the mind. That's the same thing I found. [10:20] I'll look into this a little more carefully tomorrow. [10:20] but my dhcp works fine [10:20] dhcp3 ? [10:21] Is that what you found? [10:21] how to install mplayer? [10:21] apt-get does not know mplayer [10:21] snowseal_: Do you need it? [10:22] i need a good media player [10:22] kaffeine with the right codecs seems to play anything i throw atit. [10:22] kaffeine.. trying [10:22] Go to ubuntuguide.org and install the win32codecs. [10:22] snowseal_: compile mplayer yourself, works much better [10:22] You may want to install synaptic as well as it makes it easier than kynaptic to edit your repositories. [10:22] than apt-getting it [10:23] Gonzalo: nano ;) [10:23] Nano works as well, of course. [10:23] so i'll install the codecs, then synaptic, then kaffeine? [10:23] But lots of people in Kubuntu's audience are scared of the command line. [10:23] snowseal_: That's the ticket. [10:24] Gonzalo: dhcp3 has files under /etc/ so I think ubuntu uses it [10:24] i like the command line power [10:24] Make sure you have the correct repositories. [10:24] The ubuntuguide.org is very good for this stuff. [10:24] Just follow the instructions there. [10:24] thanx m8 [10:25] With one caveat, add the marillat and other extras, but don't remove or overwrite your /etc/apt/sources.list file [10:25] snowseal_: no problem, good luck. [10:26] Tim_T: I am sure, I'll work it out tomorrow. I just can't do much with the laptop right now. [10:26] lol [10:26] it turned out oles problem was an old hdd cable ... [10:27] And the desktop is running Suse 9.3 because that's what the folks at work use and I often have to do remote support. [10:27] ca3sar: Was he the one that was talking about the kernel upgrade? [10:27] no, he was the one with the crc error [10:27] oh... [10:27] Yeah, faulty cables are often to blame for that. [10:28] he has to install everything again [10:28] yes he upgraded from an 6gb hdd [10:28] everything runs on udma5 without a udma cable.... [10:29] yess, apt get vant find some codec packs [10:29] only a old pio mode cable .. [10:29] Gonzalo: Tim? [10:29] ha? [10:29] 11:26 < Gonzalo> Tim_T: [10:30] wtf is Tim? ;p [10:30] Don't know. Why? [10:30] ... so why you call me Tim then? =) [10:31] lol. Shit, I guess Konversation's auto-completion isn't working too well. [10:31] I hadn't noticed. [10:31] Sorry [10:31] heh [10:31] np :) [10:31] Guys, I am going to hit the sack, but I'll stop by on Sunday when I have a little time off. [10:31] it's just funny [10:31] ok, see ya o/ [10:32] Thanks for the heads up. This channel also seems fairly friendly, so I'll be sure to send some friends over if they have questions. [10:32] Take care === Gonzalo [~gporcel@209.42.38.198] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === motaboy [~motaboy@host171-3.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:45] is there any free virtual mchine software ? [10:45] apart from freemware/plex86 wich is inmature === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu === gwilma [~gwilma@pces526.eng.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu === Church_of_FoamY [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has left #kubuntu [] [10:54] Does anyone know how to increase the font size of gtk program menus in kde - at the moment all the kde apps have nice-sized fonts, but firefox, synaptic etc have tiny letters === spektr [~spektr@M777P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu [10:58] gwilma: try gtk theme switcher app [10:58] thanks Tm_T - where do I find that? [10:58] apt-cache search gtk | grep switch === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [11:00] ta - installing at the moment. === guinsel [esteve@devnull.cent.uji.es] has joined #kubuntu [11:06] Tm_T: pong [11:07] Riddell: looks like we have kernel issue? [11:09] I mean https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11135 [11:09] I hope that won't be longtime problem === SJKirk [~pseudonym@ssclltddsl.claranet.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === SJKirk [~pseudonym@ssclltddsl.claranet.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] === rodolfo [~rodolfo@213.215.176.98] has joined #kubuntu === bdmp [~bdmp@hcccbcacc29.bai.ne.jp] has joined #kubuntu [11:27] Can someone tell me why I can type in Japanese in Kopete? [11:28] why not? === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax6-136.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:29] hmm, seems 3.4.1 is near [11:29] yup it is [11:39] Tm_T i think s/why/how ? [11:40] shogouki: I think so too :p [11:41] i dont need to write french, english or japanese in kopete, i chat in latex [11:41] he [11:41] I don't use kopete === blitz [~blitz@p54ACEF13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:43] hi... i'm trying kubuntu... is there a reason for using KDE instead of Gnome? Any advantages? [11:43] Tm_T what do you use for IM ? [11:43] power, beauty, and sexual skills improvments === Vjaz [peksi@ranssi.paivola.net] has left #kubuntu [] [11:44] shogouki: gaim [11:45] ouch [11:45] blitz: It's mostly a question of style :) [11:45] mikl: what is if you compare the speed of the 2? [11:45] blitz: well, I've used both and I see no real difference [11:45] blitz: you can't, but I'd say KDE wins ;) [11:46] why dont just try and see what of 2 you prefer ? [11:46] ah [11:46] but it's kinda hard to do a scientific study of which DE is faster [11:47] shogouki: i'm with gnome since 2.0 or sth. like that and with xfce 3.x... i used it because it is free... and qt wasn't really... but now I try to check the other solutions... everyone is chattering about kde... and i wanted to know why... [11:47] Sorry I was gone for a sec. I would use gaim but the text is so small that I can't make out the Japanese [11:47] okay... it looks not bad... but my default applications like gaim, xchat, firefox, thunderbird ... they suck ... not really integrated [11:47] a nice feature of kde is dcop [11:48] what is dcop [11:48] ? [11:48] bdmp: you use amarok? [11:48] shogouki: thats one of the things why kde should be better oO [11:48] yeah [11:49] well, my experience is that KDE is a lot more integrated than most linux-apps [11:49] ok, try in Konsole: "echo "`dcop amarok player nowPlaying` -- `dcop amarok player album`" [11:49] " [11:49] the different parts of the DE is capable of operating in unison [11:50] mikl: yeah but check the style of gtk-applications... they don't look really good === tango_ [~nome@adsl-43-251.37-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:50] just stop using gtk apps :) [11:50] blitz: they do look if make them to look ;) [11:50] blitz: that too ;) [11:50] +you [11:50] Tm_T: how should i force them to look like my gnome.env. [11:50] blitz: you can control gtk theme, you know ;) [11:50] i love kde kparts mechanism too, like integration of kate or kaffeine in konqueror, of kghostview in kile etc... [11:51] but one thing I don't get... if i use my gnome-applications.. why should i use kde? [11:51] bdmp: you got it? [11:51] no I get nothing [11:51] hmm? [11:51] for me one point of the superiority of kde is that kde apss are better than gnome's [11:52] apps* [11:52] shogouki: there we can start a flame ;) [11:52] bdmp: enter this: echo "`dcop amarok player nowPlaying`" [11:53] were are on #Kubuntu, no flames, kde is better its a fact ;p [11:53] lol [11:53] yes! [11:53] lol [11:53] couldn't attach dcop server [11:53] of course it would be even better if the live distribution automounted my hard disk partitions :\ [11:53] bdmp: amarok is running? [11:54] duh... no [11:54] sorry [11:54] haha [11:54] hm... i try to connect to a samba-share... error -.- kontact seems to be a nice thing but it has the same problem like evolution.. on inbox and no seperated accounts... === guinsel [esteve@devnull.cent.uji.es] has joined #kubuntu [11:54] blitz, use mozilla :P [11:54] :D [11:55] tango_: yeah... gtk-application again -.- [11:55] lol [11:55] so? [11:55] what's wrong with gtk === KaiL [KaiL@p548F68FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:55] couldn't attach dcop server again [11:55] blitz, use kmail for your mail [11:55] Tm_T that i would like to use qt-applications in my qt-env. [11:56] blitz: hmm, I don't care if app works :) [11:56] bdmp: strange [11:56] Hey anybody know how to fix a laptop that slowly works up to 100% cpu and won't stop and then gets really hot? [11:57] bdmp: "`dcop amarok player nowPlaying`" [11:57] Tim_T: what does it do? [11:57] Pauli Hanhiniemen Perunateatteri - Hyv Asiaa [11:57] it gives your nowplaying info from amarok =) [11:57] what do the " do? [11:57] sorry, bad copy [11:57] bdmp: and don't say Tim [11:58] bdmp: it was echo "... [11:58] dcop is interface to contact apps [11:59] so I can control amaroK from Konsole [11:59] Sorry miss read [11:59] or some other apps [11:59] misread [11:59] oh [12:00] http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/torsmo_003.png [12:01] wow cool [12:02] Tm_T, what program is that? [12:02] tango_: torsmo [12:03] eh should have guessed that LOL === Vjaz [peksi@ranssi.paivola.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:04] Hello, is it a typical problem in Kubuntu that khotkeys does not work? [12:04] I get this: [12:04] ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed. [12:04] hah [12:04] When I try to run 'khotkeys'. [12:04] kiva [12:05] ah damn, I've got to go, but I'll be back a little later. [12:05] tee se ;) [12:13] off we go -> === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax6-050.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic_ is now known as thoreauputic === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === rodolfo [~rodolfo@213.215.176.98] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ikypakis [t25@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu === mindspin [~mindspin@p54B2F273.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === motaboy [~motaboy@host171-3.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [~nicolas@moreau.lirmm.fr] has joined #kubuntu === andre [~andre@82.102.50.96] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] I am trying to use Ark, but it says unrar is not in your path. How do I put it in the path? [01:05] some one telme a good tutorial to learn C linguage? [01:08] bdmp: sudo apt-get unrar [01:09] or unrar-nonfree :) [01:10] thanks === uzay [~uzay@85.101.97.249] has joined #kubuntu [01:11] Hey anybody know how to fix a laptop that slowly works up to 100% cpu and won't stop and then gets really hot? [01:12] bdmp: you need to find out what's hogging up the CPU :) [01:12] I can see the services but I don't know what it might be [01:12] I am new at this [01:13] bdmp: run `top` on the command line [01:15] where should I look? %cpu? [01:15] kaffeine says 91% [01:16] How do I kill it [01:16] ? [01:17] I gotta relog in. brb === ..[topic/#Kubuntu:Riddell] : Some fixes: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun | http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php === bdmp [~bdmp@hcccbcacc29.bai.ne.jp] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] DId I miss anything? === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === bdmp [~bdmp@hcccbcacc29.bai.ne.jp] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] Thats it. As soon as I stop kaffeine it goes up to 100% [01:28] So I had this wicked problem with Kaffeine before where it would try to start up and you could only see like part of it on the screen. I would kill the process and it would stop. I finally got it work by reinstalling it, but apparently that didn't work either. What can I do to fix this? [01:28] my comp is finally quiet! [01:33] So I tried uninstalling and reinstalling but that didn't do anything. Any suggestions? === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === theine [~theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu === spiritz [~spiritz@194.167.104.20] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic is now known as thor|break === thor|break is now known as thoreauputic [01:54] bdmp: try upgrading using the kaffine in the repository in the /topic === dannemare [~konversat@0x5358aaae.abnxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === gnumdk [~gnumdk@195.221.59.41] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === kay [~kay@p54A3A6E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:01] Riddell: I take it that line in the topic should be added by ubuntu users who've installed kubuntu-desktop? [02:01] I advise so [02:01] OK [02:02] maybe that should be in the #ubuntu topic too? [02:02] best not [02:03] so we should refer people with KDE worries here, then, yes? [02:04] yep [02:04] OK === KaiL [KaiL@p548F68FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has joined #kubuntu === kanna [~kanna@host172-29.pool80180.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving..."] === DiAbLe666 [~diable@cl-7.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #Kubuntu [02:33] hi, can i build a local Ubuntu repository to install Kubuntu distributions ? === gnumdk [~gnumdk@195.221.59.41] has joined #kubuntu === individ [~x@215.Red-83-52-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === eliteforce [~Eliteforc@M1852P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] hi [02:41] got some serious problem with kubuntu, all the apps that use artsd just crash when playing something ! in the first 3 secs! don't have any idea why, in Gnome sound works just fine === individ is now known as toonX [02:41] which settings do i need to get my fonts on kde racor-sharp? they are a bit fuzzy with the standard settings [02:44] toonX: don't know if this will solve it, but I suggest adding the updates line in the /topic to your sources and updating the system [02:44] toonX: as a work around you can install amarok-xine and change to use that engine [02:45] I dont think i want any work-around , it's just , i dont know.. to crash like that in 3 secs [02:45] why in GNome works just fine? i mean i can play anything [02:46] i tryed to disable realtime priority , same thing with or without === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:47] toonX: got a backtrace? [02:47] toonX: is this i386? [02:48] Riddell, no , on amd64 [02:48] and the error handler says it can't do any backtrace [02:49] ah, that could have something to do with it, arts is troublesome on non-x86 [02:49] i don't know what is preventing it [02:49] possible arts doesn't work on non-x86 [02:50] but can't i just use ALSA ? [02:50] why do i need arts? [02:50] kde programs all output to arts, except amarok which has pluggable engines [02:50] arts sometimes works on amd64, sometimes not, it's troublesome [02:51] so is roulette === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2D214.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === heinrich [~heinrich@origan.u-strasbg.fr] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] so what can i do ? === toonX [~x@215.Red-83-52-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving..."] === incubii [~incubii@61.68.44.96] has joined #kubuntu === __P__3 [~princoscr@host-84-220-136-115.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [~incubii@61.68.44.96] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === _luis [~luis@62.175.27.91] has joined #kubuntu === othernoob is now known as othernoob|afk === darkaudi1 [~bpack@pool-141-153-72-124.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === Chameleon22 [~serg@60-240-224-74-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-67-101-145-207.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === ravel [~mikko@tuomela.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:59] greetings. how do I install Kubuntu on top of Debian (unstable) - or should I care about this matter at all? [04:00] the first you'd need to do is cross-upgrade to Hoary, then install kubuntu-desktop === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F2F60.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] I do have a broadband connection so I can do the whole install via network if that is possible. [04:09] ravel: then use apt-pinning to cross-grade from sid [04:09] ok. so there is no need to burn the installation cd at all? [04:10] nope === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@208.205.124.179] has joined #kubuntu === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === othernoob|afk is now known as othernoob === flames [~flames@caracas-4065.adsl.interware.hu] has joined #kubuntu === romm3r [~BlackLabe@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === __P__3 [~princoscr@host-84-220-136-146.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === mrmanic|sleeping is away (going offline) === mrmanic|sleeping is now known as mrmanic|afk === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === brdweb [~brdweb@dsl092-173-023.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~Hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === flames [~flames@caracas-4065.adsl.interware.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === hussam is away: I'm busy. Will be back later. === felipebisbal [~felipebis@171.12.223.82.arsystel.com] has joined #kubuntu === felipebisbal is now known as Chiwaka [05:45] hello, how could i install this file? amsn-0.94-3-linux-installer.bin === hussam is back (gone 00:02:35) [05:46] Chiwaka: probably sh ./amsn-0.94-3-linux-installer.bin [05:46] ok === spektr_ [~spektr@M823P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu [05:48] cannot execute binary file [05:48] i've also this file... amsn_0.94.orig.tar.gz how can i install it? [05:48] do chmod +x ./amsn-0.94-3-linux-installer.bin [05:48] then run it [05:50] ok [05:50] thank u very much... it works ;) === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === Pop_pa_FrEaK [~astalavis@CPE000ae6c702bb-CM000e5ce665ba.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] i dont find the executable file of the program... nither in the folder === _nemo [~nemo@port-212-202-79-244.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] where i can find it? [05:56] amsn_0.94.orig.tar.gz is probably the source, extract it [05:57] can I have the link for amsn_0.94.orig.tar.gz? [05:58] the same problem === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-4-196.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === spektr_ is now known as spektr [05:59] probably extract amsn_0.94.orig.tar.gz , cd to it, then ./configure then make then sudo make install [06:00] http://the.earth.li/debian/pool/main/a/amsn/amsn_0.94.orig.tar.gz === Kejk_PL [~Kejk_PL@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [06:05] whoa [06:06] ok... thank u it works :D === Church_of_FoamY [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === daughter [~daughter@200-206-184-159.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === ht990332 [~Hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === ht990332 is now known as hussam_ [06:09] hi hussam_ === hussam_ [~Hussam@194.126.31.19] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === hussam_ [~Hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === thedman [~thedman@frhsfw.frhs.org] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] [06:17] /msg nickserv register [06:18] exit === JensK [~JensK@p54906C83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === teknoprep [~alpy@206.245.146.1] has joined #kubuntu [06:28] what are the correct settings for a usb thumb drive in your /etc/fstab... [06:29] anyone have that becuase i am going nuts tyring to get it to auto show up on my desktop again === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:33] hmm === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:37] heh [06:37] kde is giving me shit [06:37] w0ot did it [06:38] it wasn't me [06:38] now to setup automount [06:38] lol === dnakata [~dangermou@66.225.143.33] has joined #kubuntu [06:46] just a ? whats auto mounter? === pv [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu [06:48] how to install vmware? === viriatus [~ricardo@195-23-157-118.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu [06:57] anyone know how to get point2play? [06:58] yes [06:58] buy it [06:58] afaik its commercial === philipacamaniac [~phliipaca@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] whats the website? [07:00] i can find reveiws for it but not the website [07:00] google given me trouble [07:00] lol === _nicolas [~nicolas@arc68-1-82-231-138-218.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === gnumdk [~gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-22-199.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:06] Have the updated packages at kubuntu.org (knetworkconf, kdelibs, kaffeine) been added to official Ubuntu.com repositories? [07:12] philipacamaniac: say my name and the channel will highlight :) [07:13] philipacamaniac: knetworkconf has [07:13] philipacamaniac: kdelibs is lost somewhere in the c++ transition queue [07:13] philipacamaniac: and kaffine hasn't because it's not important enough to qualify === Kejk_PL [~Kejk_PL@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] Riddell: [07:15] Riddell: Okay. knetworkconf has a conflict with knemo (in universe). Bug filed at https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11206 === Kejk_PL [~Kejk_PL@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:16] I saw that problem today [07:16] it surprised me [07:16] Should a universe bug be filed also/instead? [07:17] philipacamaniac: ah yes, that's for reminding me === ds9bsd [~ds9@ASt-Lambert-102-1-1-156.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:25] Riddell: The problem is very similar to this bug: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/594/ === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [07:26] philipacamaniac: that's the previous overlapping file problem knetworkconf had, which the new knetworkconf was designed to fix [07:26] troublesome package so it is [07:27] LOL... yeah. I'm filing a malone bug for knemo presently. [07:29] philipacamaniac: mind and reference the existing knetworkconf report then [07:30] Riddell: Certainly... === ubuntu [~ubuntu@opaccM66.chester.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [07:33] Riddell: Malone gave me an error, so I ended up triple posting. I feel sheepish, but looking through the bug list, it appears I'm not the only one. [07:33] malone isn't entirely beastie free itself [07:34] it's still in testing [07:34] Any way to delete dupes? [07:35] n/m [07:36] did you find a way? === ikypakis [t28@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu [07:36] Yes, mark as duplicate works === ubuntu is now known as YooBoo [07:36] hurray! === YooBoo loves kubuntu :) [07:37] * says cheers to that! [07:37] :) [07:38] Just using the liveCD at the moment, i love it :) [07:38] so much i'm downloading the Install CD :D [07:39] still, how do i login as root, in KDE through the LiveCD? or can't i? [07:39] Riddell: FYI, its https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/815 [07:40] any way to have a Mac-like dock in kubuntu LiveCD? [07:40] YooBoo: Kubuntu uses sudo to perform admin tasks, there is no root account by default [07:41] :) [07:41] ic ic [07:41] YooBoo: not on the live cd but superkaramba or kooldock do the job [07:42] Are they on the liveCD? [07:43] "not on the live cd but ..." [07:43] Man, this wipes the floor over windows :) The fonts are so smooth :D [07:43] Haha. I'm pretty sure you can get antialiased fonts in Windows, too. === YooBoo just harnessed the power of "el linux" methinks :) [07:43] Bah to windows [07:44] a.k.a Beta testing phase :/ [07:44] They've had "smoothed fonts" or something for quite a while I think, but that sucked if I remember correctly [07:44] They've had smoothed heads after pulling so much hair out over firefox and open office! === Kejk_PL [~Kejk_PL@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === Kejk_PL [~Kejk_PL@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:45] heh, perhaps [07:45] Well, i thinks so anyways :) [07:46] Those programs are mostly overhyped though. [07:46] Good software, but overhyped. [07:46] Good work kubuntu and ubuntu teams! === YooBoo pats ubuntu [07:47] Nah, firefox rocks my socks-0r [07:47] Looking through the UDU wiki (http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder), some great things can be expected in Breezy Badger. [07:47] Deserves all the hype :D === FaBBio [~Fabio@adsl-238-158.38-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === FaBBio [~Fabio@adsl-238-158.38-151.net24.it] has left #kubuntu ["Ele] [07:48] YooBoo: Well Firefox is better than IE, that's for sure. [07:48] I like it over must stuff, [07:49] YooBoo: Have you tried Opera? It's pretty good. [07:49] Like Konqueror is on a par with it, equal [07:49] Nah, i hated it [07:49] Ok. [07:49] It's all of a matter of personal preference I guess. [07:49] Vjaz: Good, but non-free [07:49] Well, i just dont like stuff like that [07:49] Opera had ads [07:49] and they just dont seem to give a shit [07:49] I was switching to Opera actually, but then I went back because I realised much of the stuff I had gripes with was being fixed in Firefox, and well, it's free. [07:50] Holy shit, Konversation has JIS O_O [07:50] HURRAY [07:50] I dont use opera because 1) ads, 2) Speed can be done with firefox, 3) dont want to pay 4) removed features for linux versions :) [07:51] "Speed can be done"? [07:51] Eg, if you trimmed down firefox yourself [07:51] And what features have they removed? [07:51] the "smallness" of it [07:51] Voice to text [07:51] I read it in Liux format :) [07:51] Linux* [07:52] Umm... do you mean actually ripping the source code apart and making a light version of Firefox? [07:52] Well, i think there was one :/ i forgot the name, but firefox has always run fast for me anyways [07:52] only problem i had with it was ona 300mhz computer [07:52] and it took about 6 seconds to load [07:52] Ok. Speed was actually the reason I was switching to Opera. [07:52] so, cigars all round [07:53] On a 300Mhz, you might as well use lynx [07:53] I dont like opera it just seems... 1 word - cramped [07:53] One thing is that Opera caches pages in history nicely, so going back and forward is effectively instant. [07:53] about:config? :3 [07:54] Also, Firefox sucks at rendering pages with fixed backgrounds. Small problem really, but it just pissed me off because I was browsing one website that had a fixed background at the time... [07:54] I'm still waiting for a QT Firefox port, or Konqueror with a Gecko engine. [07:54] Heh, ok. [07:54] What's wrong with KHTML? [07:54] Ever tried Gmail? [07:55] Hm... no I haven't. [07:55] I agree, but 3.4 works fine for me [07:55] Konqueror, that is [07:55] Um... works fine here. [07:56] Gmail that is. [07:56] Although it does say "For a better Gmail experience, use a fully supported browser." [07:56] I like konki, but Gecko renders more sites (perhaps due to more css code, perhaps something else) [07:56] Yup [07:56] And it is running in HTML mode, rather than standard mode [07:56] meaning you don't have things like autocomplete in the To: box [07:56] Well, balls to opera, it's cramped, and i just find it.. monopolistic, kinda [07:57] Hm... I'm guessing the "fully supported browser" stuff is bullshit. They support Safari but not Konqueror? [07:57] Isn't the rendering engine mostly the same? [07:57] Sadly, not anymore. [07:57] YooBoo: Monopolistic? [07:58] Yeah [07:58] We don't need to get into a heated debate, but let's just say Apple and Zack Rusin had a falling out. [07:58] I mean, they aren't much of the browser demographic, but they want their cash from it. [07:58] In terms of an ad here, cramped controls, etc [07:59] And yet still, OPERA is splashed all over the GUI [07:59] So, if you have an arrythmia or cardiac arrest, then you know you're using opera :/ [07:59] Well it's a better browser in many ways, so I don't see a problem with they asking money for it. [07:59] Just reminds me of that neoplanet browser [08:00] YooBoo: NeoPlanet!!!! [08:00] YooBoo: Wasn't that one full of spyware? I can't fully remember. [08:00] Yep [08:00] Pretty much , it got shut down [08:00] Schweet. === mrmanic|afk is now known as mrmanic [08:00] casue they used Internet explorer, just skinned up and labelled as a different browser [08:00] :/ [08:02] Regarding Kubuntu, did anyone here have Firefox included on the Kubuntu CD/ISO? I only had Konqueror, but some folks in the forums say Firefox is included with Kubuntu (I don't believe them). [08:02] Y'arr, well, i have now found the correct Linux Distribution to move a lot of college computers to *grin* [08:02] The liars [08:02] Not me, i've got 4 copies [08:02] Same here [08:03] About the not here, not the 4 copies [08:03] Unless they are "h4x0r5" [08:03] lol, heh i got them as a way to show the college about Linux [08:03] and ubuntu fit perfectly, was gonna use Mandriva, but eep, it wasn't the one :/ [08:04] Wasn't it called Mandark or something before that? I'm clueless :) [08:04] Heh, I actually got 20 CD's of Ubuntu. [08:05] Which tragically don't have KDE on them, right? [08:05] No they don't. [08:05] I actually don't regularily use KDE! [08:05] I just installed it yesterday. [08:05] :o [08:05] You win Vjaz === YooBoo feels demasculated >:( [08:05] Hahaa [08:05] So 20 CD's of Ubuntu is better than 4 CD's of Kubuntu? [08:06] I'll have to keep that in mind... === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu [08:06] BBL -> [08:06] Lets play Ubuntu Trumps :) [08:06] Top trumps, heh === Kejk_PL [~Kejk_PL@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === Kejk_PL [~Kejk_PL@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === mrmanic [mrmanic@has.unresolvable.info] has joined #kubuntu === mrmanic is away (going offline) === mrmanic is now known as mrmanic|afk === mrmanic|afk is now known as mrmanic === hussam [~Hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [08:12] I just noticed the new SVN HEAD for KDE4. I guess its in preliminary stages. GCC4 and QT4, I think. Freaky. Does anyone know the link for KDE release schedule (anything later then 3.4)? === dvoid_ [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [08:21] ;_; any news on the Kernel panic - attempting to kill init issue? [08:24] philipacamaniac: there is no kde release schedule except 3.4.1 early next week [08:25] philipacamaniac: gcc is independent of kde development, kubuntu is currently converting to gcc 4 [08:25] Riddell: 3.4.1 released next week, or release schedule for 3.4.1 released next week? [08:26] released next week [08:26] Riddell: regarding gcc: oh yeah duh [08:27] Riddell: Are you using QT4 (beta?) for the KDE4 sources? === tuni_ [~tuni@AFontenayssB-151-1-27-204.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:29] philipacamaniac: nope, I'm making packages for kde 3.4.1 [08:31] Okay boys, have to go now, cheers :) === jwachtel [~jwachtel@pD9581E61.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:32] Riddell: well that's good news. Hoary will see those security and bug backports? [08:32] Riddell: any new updates on whether we will get kde 3.4.1 for hoary? [08:33] or is it too risky [08:33] ? [08:33] hussam: yes, I'll do that, but not in the ubuntu archives === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.208] has joined #kubuntu [08:33] philipacamaniac: security fixes go in ubuntu archives, other stuff not [08:34] Riddell: You are awesome, dude! Now I best be adding kubuntu.org to my repo sources. === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has joined #kubuntu === _manfred [~manfred@p508ADEA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu === osh [~osh@81-231-230-175-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@dabonbon-0000001.user] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving..."] [08:38] anyone have any suggestions for helping my poor dead compy... I did apt-get upgrade to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.10 and now get a kernel panic.. [08:38] what do I need to apt-get to be able to play dvd's? [08:38] osh: well, what do you like? [08:38] command line or GUI? [08:38] and what do I need to convert it to XviD? [08:38] Riddell: they will be available in deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main ? [08:38] Tm_T: I've got kaffeine installed but it claims it can't play the dvd. [08:38] Morandir: ah, that kernel problem [08:39] osh: eh? [08:39] osh: try okle === _manfred is now known as manfred_ [08:39] hussam: not sure, either there or ftp.kde.org [08:39] osh: have you installed lbdvdcss? [08:40] osh: sorry, that's libdvdcss [08:40] TmT: yes that kernel problem [08:40] philipacamaniac: don't think so. not unless it's installed by default. it's dpkg something to find out what's installed isn't it? [08:40] osh: it is not. [08:40] Riddell: will stuff like kaffeine and konversation have to be rebuilt too? [08:41] Morandir: hmm, yes there's solution, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11135 [08:41] osh: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 [08:41] philipacamaniac: libdvdcss2 <-that's the one? [08:41] osh: yes === manfred_ is now known as mustermann === Morandir eagerly checks out the 'solution' === _manfred [~manfred@p508ADEA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:43] philipacamaniac: I still get "Can't read source" when trying my dvd. :-/ [08:44] Riddell: or will apps like k3b that were built for kde 3.4.0 still work? [08:44] copy paste comming... [08:44] - boot with live-cd [08:44] - mount / partition at /media [08:44] - chroot /media [08:44] - mount /proc [08:44] - wget breezy package of initrd-tools [08:44] - dpkg -i initrd-tools [08:44] - dpkg-reconfigure installed linux-image packages [08:44] - then reboot. [08:44] is that the solution part? [08:44] I've restarted kaffeine so it should use the libdvdcss-lib shouldn't it? === `TUX`` [~princoscr@host148-12.pool8291.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [08:45] perhaps do something like dpkg reconfigure kaffeine? [08:45] osh: have you installed the updated kaffeine package? === swilry [~swirly@82.227.195.117] has joined #kubuntu [08:46] philipacamaniac: I don't know. Don't think so. === swilry [~swirly@82.227.195.117] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [08:47] philipacamaniac: I can't apt-get it because it's already installed. [08:47] Add deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main to your /etc/apt/sources.lst [08:48] osh: Then sudo apt-get update [08:49] hussam: most packages will work with 3.4.1, if not, then a bug will have to be filed. [08:49] philipacamaniac: that's a space between .org/ and hoary-updates right? [08:49] osh: yes [08:50] hussam: yes, KDE keeps binary compatibility [08:50] philipacamaniac: the only package it wanted to fetch was kdelibs-data. Kaffeine isn't a part of that is it? [08:51] Riddell: thanks, that's a relief. [08:51] philipacamaniac: i got 404's on kubuntu.org reposetories... [08:52] Riddell: ?? (404's on kubuntu.org reposetories...) [08:53] why are you going to it with a browser? [08:53] philipacamaniac: works for me [08:53] I just added them to my sources.list and sudo apt-get update [08:53] Morandir: Seems to work for me too. [08:54] Morandir: can you see this? http://kubuntu.org/dists/ [08:54] bet you didn't apt-get update eh? [08:54] Works for me too. [08:54] we can see http://kubuntu.org/dists/ with browser [08:55] wtf [08:55] deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main <-- failed fetch [08:55] since i added marillat reps today it wants to upgrade stuff other than nonfree like it should [08:55] holdon [08:55] LOL [08:55] buz: don't leave marillat enabled... just get what you need then disable it [08:55] my buddy spelt it horay, not hoary [08:55] buz: marillat can cause breakage. [08:55] last time it didnt do that [08:55] weird [08:56] anyway i'm gonna get w32 then and disable it after that [08:56] transgress: kernel panic breakage? [08:56] osh: If you can't find a Kaffeine package using apt, try installing http://homepage.ntlworld.com/fowlerc/kaffeine_0.6-1_i386.deb [08:57] osh: That's the one I've got. Much goodness. [08:57] is there an official kaffeine build that actually works? [08:57] Morandir: nope... just some package deps breakage [08:58] okay.. added kubuntu.org to sources.list and going to upgrade again... [08:58] buz: I thought it was in the kubuntu.org archive... checking now... [08:58] philipacamaniac: I have one that does not crash but I forgot where I downloaded it [08:58] we shall see a kernel panic in a bit again I think [08:58] mhh i have ch.archive.ubuntu in my list [08:58] but i actually think ch archive isn't in CH at all [08:58] philipacamaniac: I'll have a look at that. Thanks for your time. [08:59] Package: kaffeine [08:59] Version: 0.6-0ubuntu2.1 [09:00] that's the one in the kubuntu.org archive - I'm pretty sure it fixes the crashes. And hopefully it will play osh's DVD source. [09:00] I've got something from kubuntu.org but it doesn't play dvd's I'm afraid. [09:00] ah we shall see how FC4 test 3 is in a few moments. i'm quite curious. [09:00] and Morandir how did you get kernel panics? [09:01] philipacamaniac: Ahh, the one from fowler is the one in kubuntu.org? Then I've already got it. [09:01] i'm yet to have any in kubuntu [09:01] osh: No, the one from fowler is an unofficial build. [09:01] off the wall ?: should /dev still be compilied in the kernel configuration? [09:01] transgress: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade >> reboot and bombs [09:02] philipacamaniac: Ok. I'll try installing that then. What is the command? dpkg --install kaffeine.......? [09:02] Morandir: do you know what upgraded? [09:05] osh: dpkg -i [09:05] transgress: looked like linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 upgrade [09:05] philipacamaniac: Unfortunatly it didn't work. :-( === dnakata [~dangermou@66.225.143.33] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:05] philipacamaniac: I still get this "Unable to read" and sais that it might be insufficient rights or no data on the dvd. I've bought it so there's data on it. If I mount it I can see data and play stuff. Encrypted unfortunatly. [09:05] Morandir: did you fall back to the old kernel? [09:06] transgress: yes reinstalled system from 5.04 disk [09:06] umm [09:06] if it installed a new kernel it should've left the old one... [09:06] with the dvdcss from universe i could watch dvd last night [09:06] on hoary [09:06] i do believe [09:07] but the grub says we're booting off linux-2.6.10-5-386... [09:08] osh: I'm able to watch commercial DVDs without problems. This is a longshot, but did the drive work in another OS, such as windows? [09:08] could be region code issues? [09:09] buz: doesn't libdvdcss circumvent region codes? I know circumvents other copy protection... [09:09] probably not [09:09] usually region codes is more firmware based [09:09] philipacamaniac: don't know. haven't run windows in years. It could be a region code code perhaps as buz suggested. Isn't there a way to "fix" that or is the movie industry hell bent on making me download all movies from now on? [09:09] buz: good call [09:10] osh: This might seem obvious, but have you tried other DVDs? === DiAbLe666 [~diable@cl-7.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #Kubuntu [09:11] philipacamaniac: I'd assume that they're all region2 (I'm european) so if the computers player is region1 I'm SOL'ed. === Church_of_FoamY [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:12] anyone know how to install vmware? [09:12] actually the movie industry is hell bent on making us download movies [09:12] Church_of_FoamY: yes [09:12] wheres the problem [09:12] i don't know how to install [09:12] :( [09:12] osh: Is the computer new? There is a way to change regions (albeit you have a limited number of tries) [09:13] run the script in the directory [09:13] transgress: thx for you help atm, but I've got to run for a bit [09:13] but install the headers for your kernel first [09:13] philipacamaniac: Not really new. I've had it for a year or two. It belongs to my employer. [09:14] it's a tar.gz file [09:14] mhh then it would probably be set to the correct region already [09:14] well untar it [09:15] Church: tar -zxfv vmware [09:15] Church_of_FoamY: please goto and read all of this page http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ [09:16] IT BOMBED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:16] >_< [09:16] grrrr === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [09:17] "/sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:17] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!!!!! [09:18] :p === amadeus [~amadeus@80-218-117-103.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [09:18] pivot_root: no such file or dir [09:18] anyone know a linux specifically for low end systems? [09:18] ;______________________________; [09:18] transgress: damn small linux [09:18] #nx [09:18] Morandir: damn small is a livecd i do believe [09:18] can be installed to pretty much anything, actually [09:18] transgress: no its distro [09:19] transgress; my cousin uses it on his laptop [09:19] compact flash, usb stick you name it [09:19] but its pretty limited [09:19] osh: run kaffeine --verbose from a Konsole (command line) to see if any error messages point to the problem [09:20] osh: The xine engine will tell us if it is a region problem [09:20] is there any way to make thunderbird open pdfs in kpdf? [09:21] transgress: how low end is that machine [09:22] philipacamaniac: I'm alread on that. I found a sf.net page describing the problem. I'll let you know how it goes. Apparantly this is a common problem... [09:22] buz: it's a 633mghz with 32 megs of ram [09:23] the ram being the bigger of the two problems [09:23] cant you upgrade it? [09:23] osh: excellent! Until next time... I gotta go. Adios! [09:23] 32 is truly a little low [09:23] buz: keep meaning to, but i haven't gotten around to it... eh back in the day 32 was awesome [09:23] back before my day 32 was seen as impossible [09:23] huh [09:23] back in the day when i had 166mhz 32 was about right??? === dealmo720 [~amadeus@80-218-117-103.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [09:27] Riddell: I've been meaning to ask this. how come we running qt 3.3.3 and not 3.3.4 ? I thought kde 3.4 required qt 3.3.4. [09:29] ok guys, see you later . I have to go to bed. [09:32] Qt >= 3.3.2 is required [09:32] just a quick question, i know nice lets you start a program with modified sheduling but can you do it to already running programs? === amadeus [~amadeus@80-218-117-103.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === tuni_ [~tuni@AFontenayssB-151-1-27-204.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === ikypakis [t28@195.245.229.17] has joined #kubuntu === brdweb [~brdweb@dsl092-173-023.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === SlicerDicer- [~Slicer@c-67-160-114-35.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === oelewappe [312e515044@eth1.org] has joined #kubuntu === \sh [~shermann@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #kubuntu === timo_ [timo@tsukasa.networksolutions.se] has joined #kubuntu === Trickyphillips [~Trickyphi@adsl-68-124-61-95.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === jonathaN [jonathan@4-16-ftth.onsnet.nu] has joined #kubuntu === dell500 [~dell500@southcity-24.107.176.142.charter-stl.com] has joined #kubuntu === esher [esher@online.with.eth0.ws] has joined #kubuntu === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:35] libdvdcss debug: cracking title key [09:35] libdvdcss error: read error [09:35] libdvdcss debug: read error, resorting to secret arcanes to recover [09:35] libdvdcss debug: opening target `/dev/hdc' [09:35] libdvdcss debug: using libc for access [09:35] libdvdcss error: read error [09:35] libdvdcss debug: end of title reached [09:35] libdvdcss debug: 0 of 0 attempts successful, 0 of 0 blocks scrambled [09:35] libdvdcss debug: title key is 00:00:00:00:00 [09:35] libdvdcss error: fatal error in vts css key [09:35] libdvdcss error: read error [09:35] input_dvd: Error getting next block from DVD (Error reading NAV packet.) [09:35] That's my error when it comes to playing DVD's. Anyone have hint for me I'm all ears... =) [09:36] yeah [09:36] here is the hint [09:36] use #flood next time [09:39] flood :p [09:39] transgress: Right. Will do. Although traffic on the channel wasn't overwhelming right now so it couldn't have affected a lot of people. [09:39] =) [09:40] osh: yeah, no harm done, but good manners etc ;) === osh will behave better in the future. [09:41] hih :) === opi [~emil@195.69.82.35] has joined #kubuntu [09:44] hmm, it would be nice if a friendly distribution like (K)Ubuntu would have explicit help about how to do the apt-pinning from Debian === _ali [~ali@adsl-53-240-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has joined #kubuntu [09:45] <_ali> hello [09:46] apt-pinning? [09:47] yes. [09:47] hmm [09:47] I suppose to know, but just can't remember... [09:47] more coffee then :p [09:47] actually, I am surprised that on the ubuntu or kubuntu site there is no help with this [09:48] It would be logical that many would use apt to move to (k)ubuntu, not just download some cd [09:48] ah! [09:49] many (K)Ubuntu users are "newbies" who have linux first time [09:49] so? [09:50] apt is the friendly thing that makes updating easy - for newbies, for example, so why not give them a chance to do it that way :-) === philipacamaniac [~phliipaca@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:52] i would assume a cross upgrade to kubuntu would be a painful exercise [09:52] i couldnt even downgrade breezy to hoary with apt pinning === kay [~kay@p54A39DF6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:53] well, crimsun suggested that I move from Debian to Kubuntu using apt-pinning [09:53] ravel: eh, updating happens using apt ;) [09:53] tm_t...? [09:54] uhm, I mean, how pinning help "newbie" users? [09:54] ok, I don't know how easy process is apt-pinning - after you have changed the preferences file etc [09:54] (in this particular case) [09:55] i'd say take a cd and install from that one [09:55] you can keep your home [09:55] but make a backup first [09:55] too bad that I don't have much free space right now [09:56] heh [09:57] I need another 160G HD [09:57] so I can clean this one [09:57] btw, do you happen to know why KDE 3.4 is not in (any) Debian yet? [09:57] ravel: eh, _Debian_ [09:57] Because its Debian [09:57] I just booted my new Origin 200 GIGAchannel for the first time (though I am not planning to install Linux on it) [09:58] ravel: ask from package maintainer [09:58] ravel, it is not because Sarge needs to be released [09:58] yeah [09:58] (not even in unstable) [09:58] And at the time, KDE 3.3 was picked [09:58] ok. [09:58] Unstable serves testing right now [09:59] yup [09:59] Once Sarge releases, you will probably see them pick up what Kubuntu did so far [09:59] ravel: so why not use svn [09:59] tm_t: to what purpose? [10:00] ravel: to get newest kde ofcourse ;) [10:00] newest and bestest [10:00] I am trying to build SVN on Breezy right now [10:00] At the risk of sounding redundant, "because its Debian". They are infamous for ultra-slow release cycles, and never having the newest and bestest [10:00] And it feels ... breezy :p [10:00] ah. I am quite satisfied with 3.3, was just interested to know the reason for not 3.4 in unstable [10:00] kay: let us know how that goes === Vjaz [peksi@ranssi.paivola.net] has left #kubuntu [] [10:01] philip, I was not asking why KDE in stable Debian is 2.x :-) [10:02] philipacamaniac, well, libglu-xorg-dev is needed and it removed konqueror [10:02] That hurts somewhat and condemns my compile to success too :p [10:02] kay: ACK! Well, good news is, 3.4.1 will be released next week, and Riddell promised Kubuntu packages. [10:02] ravel: 3.0 wasn't 2 years old on release :) === vanRijn [~gideon@pcp0010243409pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:02] dangit [10:03] I'm using kubuntu hoary hedgehog and my usb mouse occasionally stops working [10:03] philipacamaniac, I have some with 3.4.1 pre here already, kdepim and kdemultimedia i think, but kdebase is still old [10:03] in X [10:03] anyone else see this? [10:04] Hm... vanRijn when you look at dmesg output, do you see something at the end? [10:04] I am wondering if KDE 4.0 will sport some of the OSX Tiger features === DiabloD3 [diablo@65.99.191.151] has joined #kubuntu [10:04] How do I create a cdrom-based apt repository? What is the specific structure? [10:04] ravel, what should that be? [10:05] <_ali> ravel > like ? [10:05] ravel: Kat (not in official KDE yet) promises desktop search [10:05] ravel: which features? [10:05] ravel: Superkaramba has done for years what Dashboard is now doing === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.208] has joined #kubuntu [10:06] kay: kdebase 3.4.1 is "on the way" and seams to work a lot better [10:06] kay: nothing about usb [10:06] yeah when will we get it ? [10:06] kay, philip, ali, desktop search, support for lots of metadata, vector-based resolution independent desktop rendering (whatever) [10:06] ...which is not that complicate if we look at konqueror :) [10:06] ravel: desktop search is in the work [10:07] Metadata is certain, desktop search the purpose... that's going to happen, independent though, talk about this is years old [10:07] vector based rendering: duno, but KDE is at least already way more res independant than Windows :) [10:07] yes [10:07] what's meant with "metadata"? [10:07] my Konqueror has a realtime filter bar (type and it filters contents), and kiolocate find me anything anywhere (although I wish it was sorted via metadata) [10:08] Like where things came from KaiL_ [10:08] extra data information about each file [10:08] and, also will Konqueror be able to render Acid2 correctly in near future [10:08] Will it have user-writable comments for files? [10:08] When you save a file from the mail attachment, the file will still be associated to that mail and later you will find it still [10:09] pv: nobody know for now [10:09] KDE 4 is for now only porting to Qt 4 in the ldelibs as far as I know [10:10] Taking advantage of 3D rendering cards (like what they're doing over at Metacity and Enlighment) would be sweet. [10:10] Some people have things in the making about metadata APIs, but that will certainly see discussion and demos before the time comes [10:11] kay: afaik there'll be some more things in or short after 4.0 [10:11] philipacamaniac, that is the job of X11, not KDE [10:11] kay: taking advantage of them correctly is the job of KDE [10:11] AmigaOS was/is nice, there is a command called comment [10:11] like the translucency options now available in the Control Center [10:11] ravel, did you use it? [10:11] philipacamaniac: this exists in kde3.4, but is disabled, because it's slow like hell and a bit unstable [10:12] you could write comments that would show below the filename with the list command [10:12] kay, sometimes, especially when swapping files (mod music, demos) with friends [10:12] KaiL: no kidding! Especially on my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. It would be great to see more rendering efforts go in to KDE4. [10:13] Some people are sure to do this, philipacamaniac, because they can :) [10:13] philipacamaniac: google for "composite". [10:13] Other people are going to complain how pointless it is [10:13] but be warned: VERY slow [10:13] unusably slow [10:14] KaiL: I meant that I have done it. It sucked big donkeys. [10:14] It is alpha stuff so far [10:14] the step to make it fast is now on the driver side [10:14] Xorg does not enable it by default yet for a reason [10:14] Ahh, I understand your points now [10:14] It also crashes and stuff [10:14] are there any cards that actually can do composite fast [10:15] Maybe newer NVidia? [10:15] buz: nop. [10:15] it sure looks tasty [10:15] cards could, but drivers not [10:15] but it's fucking slow [10:15] Doesn't the GNOME camp have this going at a useable state? [10:16] maybe the do this without composite? [10:16] they.. [10:16] gnome camp uses Xgl for their eyecandy demos [10:17] is that more usable? [10:17] Anyway, I would just love to see it eventually. [10:18] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8001.html [10:18] hmmm. looks like a common problem [10:19] vanRijn: FSC? :) [10:19] on the E8010 you need to restart the X-Server sometimes to get all mice back [10:20] or better switch to console and switch back === jbn-o [~jbn@12-223-133-114.client.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:21] KaiL_: fsc? [10:21] Fujitsu-Siemens Computers [10:21] o [10:21] I've an IBM thinkpad A31 [10:21] and this never happened with fedora core 3 [10:21] =:/ [10:21] hmm... [10:21] is fc3 also kernel 2.6.10? [10:22] btw, you have touchpad + stick? [10:22] I have an eraser mouse in the middle of the thinkpad keyboard and a usb mouse [10:22] FC3 is Linux kernel 2.6.10 (actually, their version now is 2.6.11, but...) [10:23] yes [10:23] and I've been using 2.6.10 for quite a while (vanilla) without this problem [10:23] *sigh* === vanRijn goes to recompile 2.6.11 from scratch [10:23] bbl... === judax [~troywill1@adsl-69-154-11-173.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === gilson [~gilson@201-26-17-26.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === beldar [~beldar@49.Red-80-37-96.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:30] hi [10:31] someone can tellme how to make a CLASSPATH in kubuntu? [10:31] plz? [10:31] well, isn't that just an environment variable that you set? [10:32] not all at the same time plz [10:32] ehm [10:32] but how i set it [10:32] i found somewhere that i have to edit .tcshrc [10:32] in bash: export CLASSPATH:/here/something:/there [10:32] oh [10:32] thnx [10:33] to make it really persistent, edit /etc/environment and place CLASSPATH=/something:/else there [10:34] but i want to link it to a directori [10:34] what I have to put in else there [10:34] export CLASSPATH /home/beldar === simona [~simona@ppp-148-16.27-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] i can put just that? [10:34] you missed the = [10:35] oh k [10:35] Well, do you KNOW what a classpath is? [10:35] yes yes [10:35] it's done [10:35] thanx!! [10:35] my pleasure :p === simona [~simona@ppp-148-16.27-151.libero.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:36] all yours ^ ^ === darkaudi1 is now known as darkaudit === Church_of_FoamY [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === hans_ [~hans@p213.54.180.9.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:46] why cant i watch movies in fullscreen mode in mplayer? [10:47] hans_: i have same problem [10:47] hans_: mplayer filename -zoom [10:50] hm [10:51] incidentally, the little reset button on the bottom of my wireless usb mousie helps with the annoying mouse-doesn't-work problem [10:58] hans_: mplayer -fs -zoom filename (or for the one in the menu, with gui: gmplayer -zoom filename) [10:59] thx === jmont [~julio@201.2.209.23] has joined #kubuntu === jmont [~julio@201.2.209.23] has left #kubuntu ["Fui] [11:04] when starting mplayer a error message flashes: font path wrong....what to do? === YourSQL [~chatzilla@opaccM66.chester.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:07] Hello again :D [11:07] "is says New_Face failed. maybe the font path is wrong" whats wrong? [11:16] <_ali> bye === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu === eXhumed [~papercut@208.53.170.44] has joined #kubuntu [11:26] hans_: Perhaps the font path is wrong? [11:27] http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/view/1104 Redhat+Trolltech=Good? [11:29] hm, okay, so, I have another problem, and I've always had it with debian-based distros, I believe.... I have a laptop and use it both a work and home over wireless network connection. The routing and dns information is obviously very different between the two environments. And whenever I go home/work and switch environments, I have to restart my web browsers, etc., because they all don't seem to recognize that the DNS/network [11:29] stuff has changed. Anyone have any idea on how to make this better? === bkudria [~bkudria@dsl-64-246-148-191.rb0-gtown.valstar.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] does (k)ubuntu package kde's kiosktool? [11:34] bkudria: apt-cache search kiosktool would perhaps answer that? [11:37] philipacamaniac: wtf?! [11:38] Tm_T: Exactly! Found that on a kde devel's personal blog, and though the same exact thing. [11:38] Tm_T: *thought [11:39] ok, from user level, rpm hell... no way! [11:39] from dev level, hey, where's competition then? [11:40] we _need_ race between distros etc [11:40] So you mean to say that Debian/Ubuntu and others will the shaft if that were to happen? === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] I mean, there must be much different companies around there [11:46] not one giant and then many small [11:46] and I afraid that if redhat buys trolltech, it will become too big [11:47] and I afraid that if redhat buys trolltech, trolltech will change too much [11:47] you got the point? [11:49] Yeah, i don't want it to happen either. Doubt it will. [11:51] yeah [11:52] I think trolltech does have own plans [11:52] Interesting article. He's got a point I think. MySQL does the same thing. Double licensing I mean. [11:56] gtg..bye! === philipacamaniac [~phliipaca@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has left #kubuntu [] [11:56] osh, sorry, i was in another window...it doesn't have anything...wher can i submit a request to have it packaged? === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.208] has joined #kubuntu [11:57] bkudria: I have no idea. I'm a new kubuntu user myself. Perhaps www.debian.org can help. [11:57] bkudria: kubuntu uses debian pakcages too.