[12:12] ivoks: pong... :) [12:12] what was the app you were wanting to work on? [12:14] ajmitch: never mind :) [12:14] pfft.. [12:14] fine :) [12:14] tell me what it was so I can work on it ;) === koke [~koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:18] ajmitch: sec... [12:19] socketapi [12:19] aha [12:25] cast from 'OHtmlElement*' to 'int' loses precision [12:26] one more [12:27] fun times... socketapi builds, I just have to fix up the transition parts now :) === NigelS [nigel@83.166.160.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] builds?! [12:27] sure, I've got a few that need hacking === NigelS [nigel@83.166.160.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia curses the MOTUs for filling his inbox [12:38] I did no such thing === ivoks_ [~ivoks@lns01-0286.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] ? [12:46] ! [12:46] yeah, my inbox is full too :) [12:46] from what? [12:47] from doko :) [12:47] cxx transition stuff? [12:47] yeah [12:47] what's wrong with this? === ajmitch gets no mail about that [12:47] libstrutilsxx 0.7 libstrutilsxx0.7c2 [12:47] make less mistakes, then it doesn't get full [12:47] yeah, i know... [12:48] hi doko :) [12:48] i'm still learning [12:48] libstrutilsxx0.7, not libstrutilsxx0.7c2 IIRC [12:48] hi ajmitch [12:48] ok [12:48] omg :) stoopid mistake [12:49] that happens when u do two packages in same time :) [12:50] doko: should this be ...-ubuntu2? [12:51] yes [12:54] patch uploaded [12:54] that was pretty ASAP :) === HostingGeek curses Burgundavia for spaming the top of his scroll back [12:55] ivoks_, sadly i'm too tired to upload it now... [12:55] huh? [12:55] Burgundavia: just ignore it.. :) [12:55] ogra: :) but doko said ASAP... noooo.... :) [12:55] ogra: it's ok ;) [12:56] :) [12:56] doko is used to my lazyness.... and he knows how i hate c++ [12:56] huh... that was a shock :) [12:56] haha [12:56] ogra, lazy?! [12:56] never [12:58] ajmitch, but i'm good at delegating ;-P [12:59] yep :) [12:59] especially if tseng supports me in it... and you are the target ;) [12:59] pushover. [12:59] heh === ajmitch ought to do the hwdb license delegation you coerced me to do yesterday ;) [01:02] ok... i will deal with this trivial long - int problems tomorrow [01:02] bye all! [01:02] night ivoks [01:03] ogra, joined the debian gis list === jinty [~jinty@haydn.debian.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia now curses MOM for filling his inbox === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] tseng: hm, is beagle known to be FUBAR in breezy atm? [01:50] seems to be for me [01:51] it blows up with: [01:51] Assembly: dbus-sharp (assemblyref_index=4) [01:51] Version: 0.23.4.0 [01:51] Public Key: 9eef2692033670f5 [01:51] The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/usr/lib/beagle). [01:51] for me [01:51] yeah, dbus-cil definitely dead [01:54] Mithrandir, we'll have to wait for the next dbus build... === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] ogra: where in the queue is that? :) [01:59] nowhere i guess... i think daniels has to enable it in the source first... [01:59] ah, ok [02:00] well, mono needs to move to main then you can do that, yes [02:00] well, 'night [02:00] thom, it moved today (technically) [02:00] ogra: nod [02:26] <|QuaD-> Mithrandir: beagle cvs doesn't actually need dbus [02:35] Mithrandir: partly [02:35] Mithrandir: yes. [02:35] Mithrandir: i need libdbus-cil first [02:37] <|QuaD-> tseng: why not just wait untile the non-dbus beagle is released? [02:37] |QuaD-: whichever comes first [02:38] i think i have some idea what i am doing by now :) [02:38] nah dude your stupid and know nothing. ;) [02:39] you caught me [02:39] <|QuaD-> tseng: hah :) [02:39] :) [02:40] creeps getting mono/ikvm/md to work from svn is a pain in the ass. [02:40] i wouldnt recommend that [02:41] heh [02:41] hm is there anything cool i could use to play muine on my laptop through my speakers on desktop? [02:41] wirelessly [02:42] esd and set ESPEAKER ? [02:42] i guess i could get a decent bitrate stream with uh [02:42] or write a gst plugin to ship stuff over the network [02:42] icecast and acast [02:42] .. and keep sync [02:42] i never used esd over the network [02:42] is there a manpage on that [02:42] yeh iirc basically you do esd -tcp [02:42] and then set ESPEAKER to the ip [02:42] and start the program [02:43] k [02:43] man esd should say [02:43] altho i seem to remember taking alot of effort to find it last time [02:45] <|QuaD-> does xen work yet? [02:45] <|QuaD-> for ubuntu [02:50] Lathiat: oh man that actually works [02:50] pretty neat === prevod [prevod@147.91.175.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] http://www.xraymag.com/pdfs/xray_v3_n2.pdf [03:03] afternoon all [03:04] ajmitch: hi === ajmitch wonders why trulux wanted to keep talking to me after I said I was leaving? === prevod [prevod@147.91.175.14] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:04] he loves to talk [03:04] i guess. === ajmitch nods === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] helo motu :) [03:25] 'lo [03:26] hi [03:30] nasty, a lib that compiles with g++-4.0_4.0.0-5ubuntu1 but not -7ubuntu7 [03:31] where is doko when you need him? [04:44] tseng: :) [04:44] Lathiat: ? [04:44] tseng: the esd thing from earlier [04:45] ah rock on === lamont scratches his head at 'Rejected' status on https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/761 [05:01] because it's main??? === elmo [~james@83-216-141-215.jamest298.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] lamont, dup [05:05] 762 [05:06] I was only told that you can now, in fact, mark things as dups [05:06] now marked as a dup [05:07] ah, coolnes [05:07] s [05:07] reject would tend to beg a comment.... [05:07] I didn't want to mark fixed, as it wasn't [05:07] so I rejected them [05:08] hmm, marking things as dups does not remove them from the view it seems === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] can I have opinions on https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/809 [05:29] as it is like to affect us the most [05:30] hmm [05:30] the idea is certainly interesting, but we really should just encourage people to join [05:35] is it advisable to use malone now instaed of bugzilla? [05:36] crimsun, not everybody can package [05:36] jsgotangco, for universe, use malone [05:36] jsgotangco, for main, use bugzilla [05:37] ah [05:37] MOTU is supposed to be a mentoring process, too [05:47] yep, but there are people who honestly cannot package or have no interest in packaging [05:47] but they do want something in Ubuntu [05:47] like my father or my brother [05:48] then they'll file bugs, and you'll assign them to yourself and maintain them, correct? [05:48] they should have an outlet for these requests [05:48] crimsun, bugs are a crude hammer for this sort of thing [05:48] we should cloak the bug interface in an easy to use one [05:48] they are still bugs inbehind [05:48] but the user doesn't need to see that [05:50] hmm, so to start with, the complement of the intersection of Sid+experimental & Breezy? [05:50] no [05:50] (on packages.u.c) === pvaneynd_ [~pvaneynd@56.12-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] I am looking to use the FindingPackages spec in another way === _Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [~user@202.172.110.248] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abarbaccia [~abarbacci@ool-18b8cf07.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:30] hey all - so the other day my breezy install fell apart - whats up with that?! [06:31] you run breezy [06:31] welcome to life [06:31] hahah - well, not anymore [06:31] lol [06:31] hi everyone [06:31] had to go back to hoary - can't run it on my everyday computer if it breaks when i need to do work === Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [~user@202.172.110.248] has left #ubuntu-motu ["ERC] === schweeb_ [~chris@216.139.8.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pvaneynd [~pvaneynd@blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] can request a package to be transitioned soon? scorched3d [07:46] my brother needs to kick my ass ;) [07:50] GAMES ARE NO FUN [07:50] hehe [07:50] :D [07:51] oh right, I am running linux now, no games for me [07:52] seriously though, there are some pretty good linux-only games out there === schweeb [~chris@216.139.8.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.142.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.142.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb_ [~chris@216.139.8.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aisipos [~anton@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fwiffo [~fwiffo@130.225.79.13] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@c180122.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dahane [~dahane@c199193.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === motaboy [~motaboy@host171-3.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [~spacey@145.33.144.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@c172075.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [~jinty@haydn.debian.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax6-136.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === martink [~martin@p54B3BE5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] brb === susus [~sz@p5089F676.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089F676.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_d [~ogra@p5089F676.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax6-050.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0286.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] hi [12:25] <\sh> moins [12:25] hi [12:25] time to fix some packages :( [12:25] <\sh> haha...dokos work [12:25] how can i test my source on amd64 or ia64 platforms? [12:27] ogra: wow thanks for fixing my dpu [12:27] ogra: dput [12:29] hi [12:29] ivoks: you could ask someone with an amd64 for doing a test build [12:30] i know that :) [12:31] <\sh> i could need a cofffee [12:37] assuming my key was not yet in the keyring, but my email is whitelisted. what would be the reaction of the archive scripts if I upload a package? [12:37] no key, no uploady [12:38] simple as that :) [12:38] no message like "your upload was rejected because you suck"? [12:38] siretart: your upload vanishes into outer space [12:38] ok. then I'm not added yet. thanks :) === \sh too is not added === ivoks doesn't know what keys you guys are talking about :) [12:39] gpg [12:39] ivoks: gpg keys [12:39] it was a joke... [12:39] ok :) [12:39] ok. will prepare more packages then and flood the archive with a whole bunch of uploads ;) [12:39] only packages signed by an approved key can be uploaded and moved to buildd queue [12:39] my packages are signed [12:39] siretart: uh.. and make the mailserver suffer even more? [12:39] "approved key" [12:39] but my sign is useless for now :) [12:39] tseng: :=) [12:40] time for work [12:40] bye [12:40] bye [12:40] bye tseng [12:40] <\sh> cu tseng [12:40] hm... it's holyday in croatia :) [12:41] <\sh> i just woke up because of people singing and praying on this damn graveyard next to my flat :( === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.26.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] \sh: play some loud metal [12:44] trash metal :) [12:44] death metal [12:44] (would me more appropriate, it's a graveyard) [12:44] play Him, they will stop praying and start laughing :) === \sh is playing "Breaking the Law" by Judas Priest on British Steel [12:45] <\sh> i don't like death ;) [12:45] <\sh> good handmade music ;) [12:45] <\sh> rob halford [12:45] brintey rulz! :) === motaboy [~motaboy@host171-3.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] \sh: any results? [12:47] <\sh> ivoks: sorry...wasn't lookin on the query... [12:47] :) [12:48] it's ok [12:48] <\sh> ivoks: downloading :) [12:48] k [12:49] <\sh> argl. [12:50] <\sh> Mithrandir: dpatch doxygen and xlibs-dev (thx) [12:51] \sh: done. [12:52] <\sh> thx [12:53] <\sh> ivoks: i don't get your error :) [12:53] <\sh> ivoks: but [12:53] <\sh> c++ -o example main.o -L../lib/libxclass -lxclass -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXpm -lXext -lX11 -lXpm -lXext -lX11 [12:53] <\sh> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxclass [12:53] \sh: that's because you had error before.. [12:53] scroll up [12:54] xclass lib didn't build [12:54] <\sh> ah yes...scrolled [12:57] anything? [12:58] <\sh> moment [12:58] don't fix it :) [12:58] i would like to do that... [01:10] Mithrandir: ping [01:10] yes? [01:10] is it possible to get chroot on some amd64 or ia64 for testing purposes? [01:10] yes. [01:11] so i don't ask people arround to test it for me.. [01:11] oh, great... [01:11] signed mail (with a key either in the debian or ubuntu keyring or at least signed by one who is) to me (tfheen@err.no), cc to maswan@acc.umu.se, state wanted user name, include ssh key and ask for access to ravel. [01:14] doh... :) [01:14] i don't have signed key :( [01:15] ok, evenutally that will come to [01:15] thanx Mithrandir [01:15] <\sh> ogra: ping [01:15] \sh, po [01:15] ivoks: nothing personal, but I would really like to have something at least resembling a trust path to you. :) [01:15] n [01:15] g [01:15] ivoks: you could ask maswan on #u-d, though. He's the owner of the box so it's his call. [01:15] Mithrandir: i agree with you ;0 [01:16] that's supposed to be ), not 0 :) [01:16] <\sh> ogra: are u somewhere organized in a LUG? [01:16] nope [01:17] so, what's the procedure to get key signed? [01:17] i guess I have to be MOTU for that, right? [01:17] nope [01:18] no? [01:18] hm... ok :) [01:18] <\sh> ogra: I'm thinking about a presentation for luusa [01:18] ivoks: keysigning is not motu-specific [01:19] ivoks: http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html [01:19] ah... [01:19] <\sh> ogra: http://www.luusa.org/ [01:19] i had my key signed, but i lost my hard disk and didn't have backup :( [01:19] where is sankt augustin ? [01:19] so, this is my new key... [01:20] <\sh> ogra: it's between cologne and bonn :) [01:20] <\sh> next to troisdorf [01:20] ah, sounded bayrish :=) [01:20] <\sh> ogra: yeah [01:21] <\sh> ogra: so what do u think, about an Ubuntu presentation? [01:21] why not [01:21] ivoks: find someone to do keysigning stuff with [01:22] will do [01:22] ivoks, look at www.biglumber.com, probably there is someone in your area wanting to sign you [01:24] <\sh> ogra: ok...i want to have it in two parts...1. part => user perspective and 2. part => developer perspective...at least the work between debian and ubuntu..how the ubuntu work merges back to debian [01:24] <\sh> and for the 2. part it would be nice to have u on board :) [01:28] \sh: i hope you have spare time :) === Zarquon [~Zarquon@21.89.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] <\sh> ivoks: sparetime? [01:29] \sh, as long as it doenst collide with my schedule i'm fine with that [01:29] free time [01:29] <\sh> ivoks: free time? [01:30] <\sh> ogra: we have to organize it :) i don't want to hold u up :) [01:30] <\sh> ivoks: well, I have at least one weekend where I'm doing a completly brain reset [01:31] <\sh> ivoks: brain reset == visiting an irish pub and drinking many guinness [01:31] \sh: kilkenny is much better :) [01:32] \sh: i tought you could check out one more source for me... [01:32] :) [01:32] I thought I could change window managers @ Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor : /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager ? Did I miss something or do I too need guiness? [01:38] <\sh> and I will produce now a nice coffee for me... [01:39] <\sh> Fehl http://de.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe arkrpg 0.1.4b-6 (dsc) [01:39] <\sh> Konnte Datei arkrpg_0.1.4b-6.dsc nicht ffnen - open (2 Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden) [01:40] warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size [01:41] should i fix that? :) [01:41] it's only a warning :) === rtcm [~jman@217.129.142.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] ivoks: warnings are the root of all evil! [01:41] :) [01:42] i will need help with this one [01:42] it doesn't compile on amd64 and ia64 [01:42] it does on i386 [01:42] that warning is for: [01:43] block = (INT32*)((INT32)res+ \ (INT32)number*(INT32)size); [01:43] wihout that \ [01:44] typedef int INT32; [01:48] ivoks: ah! int != int32 [01:48] i don't like this :( === bradb [~bradb@modemcable141.58-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] there is too much WIN in this file :) [01:48] it even has include [01:48] time to eat something... === jinty [~jinty@haydn.debian.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelli [~john@88cb1639023f06fe.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] ciao [02:36] hi abelli [02:37] anyone here knows where i should report packaging problems of the ruby related packages? [02:38] has anyone a explanation why firefox on my amd64 is not able to login on the ubuntu wiki whereas on my i386 box is? somethings must be broken, but I dont see what (both hoary) [02:38] abelli: tell us here. whats the problem? [02:39] i encountered problems with ruby gems installing pimki this is what the mantainer of pimki told me after some debugging : [02:39] "14:38 < abelli> i encountered some probs installing pimki with gem .. [02:39] ahhh soory .. :)= [02:39] The only way I can think this might have happened is that you're on [02:39] some debian flavoured linux where the packagers crippled ruby by [02:39] some debian flavoured linux where the packagers crippled ruby by breaking the stdlib in very non standard ways" [02:40] ok .. sorry pasting problems .. [02:41] siretart: did you get an idea of what he wanted to mean? [02:41] or should i re-paste it .. in a better manner :)?? [02:41] abelli: I'm sorry. but I'm also not that into ruby [02:42] abelli: try repasting it on pastebin oder paste.debian.net [02:43] shttp://paste.debian.net/515 [02:43] shttp? ;) [02:43] siretart: well i need to go .. should i contact directly the mantainer or you can do it? [02:43] siretart: that's HTTP with STARTTLS ;) [02:43] ... just take of the s :) [02:43] :) [02:44] Treenaks: ciaooooooo [02:44] which WOULD be a cool option btw [02:44] hi abelli [02:44] abelli: and bye ;) [02:44] Treenaks: hey .. im supposed to give solutions .. [02:44] that's a cool solution. [02:44] abelli: I dont really understand the problem yet. Is this problem also in the debian packages? [02:44] siretart: is there a package of pimki? [02:44] i dont think so. [02:44] well at least not in hoary [02:45] but .. well .. id like gem to run on ubuntu [02:45] I don't even see pimki in breezy. whats pimki? [02:45] abelli, you should definately contact the debian devs that broke the packages apart, i know there is an argument going on between ruby upstream and the DDs [02:45] wiki+note_taker_with_some_neuro_thinks_in_it [02:46] ogra: i know it too :) i just wanted to let you go before me :) [02:46] (debian did something similar with mono in the past, but they now repackaged it) [02:47] I'm not quite sure, but http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=290705 seems to be relevant here === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0286.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] hi again === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] wb ivoks [02:48] siretart: it's seem so. [02:48] well im off to univ .. have a great day everybody [02:49] i'm a bit confused [02:49] abelli: have a nice day. cu [02:49] can't someone d/w my key from keyserver and sign it locally? [02:49] ivoks: They don't know you're really you unless they meet you in person. [02:49] ah, true :) [02:49] I've got the same problem. [02:50] just look at biglumber [02:50] ogra: i did... [02:50] nothing ? [02:50] yeah, no one in sioux city [02:50] one guy :) [02:50] great, mail him [02:50] well, i'm not worying :) [02:50] i'd have to get someone to drive me 100mi away to omaha [02:51] admin of pgp keryserver in croatia will personaly sign mine :) [02:51] and there is jrodin... [02:52] i talked to the sioux city LUG about it and they seemed to think key signing was silly [02:52] Amaranth: :( === bradb [~bradb@MTL-ppp-146985.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [~jinty@haydn.debian.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:08] bye === Am|NickTaken [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [~lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xuzo [~xuzo@bolgo.cent.uji.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0286.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.26.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng|work [~ccc27a01@sls-eb20p9.dca2.superb.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] ogra: GAR [05:07] ? [05:07] ogra: tcl stores integers as a C "int" type [05:07] tha do you do with tcl ? [05:08] waht even [05:08] ergh [05:08] not even unsigned [05:08] just int [05:10] i hope i dont need to start again and learn python [05:10] tseng|work: do yourself a favour; don't learn tcl. [05:10] tcl should die. [05:11] Mithrandir: i wish, the other coders here work with expect and php [05:11] those were my choices [05:11] assembly? [05:11] now that im 95% done and tcl is overflowing integers [05:11] mono? perl? shell? C? Objective C? Java? [05:11] i can tell them why it needs to be python [05:11] <\sh> php? as meant in #!/usr/bin/php or as webapps language? [05:11] \sh: the rest of the app is a php web app === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.26.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] this is like the shell backend [05:12] it does snmp polling and rrd data storage [05:12] and mysql [05:12] <\sh> hmmm [05:12] the tcl bindings for all that is nice enough [05:12] <\sh> tseng: what is it? [05:12] just.. [05:12] i cant store the full snmp data [05:12] \sh: it graphs network traffic [05:13] with rrdtool [05:13] but it has a custom interface and polls 1000s of interfaces [05:13] <\sh> i prefer cacti as full php solution http://www.cacti.net/ [05:13] no [05:14] I tried that [05:14] <\sh> but to have something professional, i'm using the old lycos solution, rrdtool+some perl applications [05:14] there is an existing solution it has to work like [05:14] the cacti navigation blows majorly for a network this size [05:14] Mithrandir, no python in your list ? [05:15] ogra: he already had python mentioned [05:15] <\sh> tseng: how large is the network? [05:15] ah [05:15] sh there are 848 hosts in the database [05:15] we are polling 200 atm [05:15] which comes to 8000+ interfaces [05:15] <\sh> hmmm... [05:15] the single problem is the size of ifOutOctets/ifInOctets from the internet routers is larger than signed int [05:16] <\sh> so tcl is bugging u or php or mysql? ,-) [05:16] all of it [05:16] the stuff php/mysql is doing for the frontend is fine [05:17] <\sh> what? moment...if i'm right, boris released the lycos tool as gpl lic [05:17] <\sh> we had no mysql..only a bug emc storage ;) [05:18] <\sh> s/bug/big/ [05:19] hm i think my network guy is lying about the counter not rolling over [05:20] my data is fine [05:20] <\sh> tseng|work: if you want to have some fun with a real sysadmin geek, try out https://sourceforge.net/projects/zerod/ [05:20] its only in cvs, the other annoyance here :P [05:21] <\sh> we tried during my lycos times to clean the code but I gave up [05:21] <\sh> it's working for services as well as on snmp pulls === willis [~willis@82.110.178.137] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng|work waits for the counter to roll over and rub it in coworkers face === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [05:37] does breezy pbuilder work for anyone, it always gets stuck on g++ for me [05:38] it worked for me as of a few days ago === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.26.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] g++ depends on g++-4.0 (>= 4.0.0-7); however: [05:41] Package g++-4.0 is not installed. [05:41] it's never worked for me [05:43] Riddell, yeasterday it worked here... [05:44] it must just hate me [05:45] <\sh> hmmm.. [05:45] <\sh> Riddell: trying to compile patched python-kde3 now... === Riddell crosses fingers [05:47] <\sh> Riddell: hmm [05:47] <\sh> Riddell: python2.4-qt3-dev [05:49] <\sh> grmpf === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.26.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] <\sh> i should recompile python2.4-qt3 [05:53] bbl [05:53] <\sh> and if elmo would include the keys ;) i could even upload those packages ;) [05:54] :) [05:55] <\sh> hmmm..my laptop is even getting hotter === DanielN [~kodiak@80-218-243-68.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] moin [05:57] hi DanielN [06:02] hi siretart [06:09] did you have fun at UDU? [06:13] ivoks, indeedc [06:13] -c [06:13] 12h working fun every day ;) [06:14] hehe [06:14] will there be more events like that? [06:14] somewhere near europe? :) [06:14] ivoks: for hoary the meeting was in spain [06:14] the last one was in barcelona [06:15] eh.. [06:15]