[07:15] <KaiL_> hat dein ISP 5stunden-reconnect? :)
[07:19] <KaiL_> hmm, kdeutils doesn't even try to build on i386?
[07:21] <KaiL_> kdebase and kdegraphics are still stalled ;)
[09:43] <hunger> KaiL_: meiner? Noe, ich hab' hier lausigen WLAN Empfang.
[09:47] <JRe> the only thing i've understood is that you're talking about wifi ;)
[09:50] <hunger> JRe: I think KaiL_ asked me whether my isp did an  hourly reconnect. I replied that my Wifi connection is just lousy.
[09:50] <JRe> hunger: okay ;) mine often disconnect too
[09:51] <hunger> JRe: I get max. 30k to my own server over it.
[10:32] <JRe> amu: the person who made the itp for kftpgrabber did not respond for more than a week, to my question (are you still working on the packages?)
[10:32] <JRe> amu: may i give the address of my packages?
[10:41] <amu> JRe: bug no?
[10:41] <JRe> amu: which bug?
[10:45] <amu> you told me :"the person who made the itp for kftpgrabber did not.." 
[10:51] <JRe> amu: i wonder what to do if you ask a person who has made an ITP long time ago for a soft and did not made any packages, and does not answer to questions about current state?
[11:17] <amu> JRe: just write to the bug and cc: to the person and into debian-devel, wht did you do till now, and you want maintain this package. probably he's atm at holiday and not reachable, that could be possible.
[11:24] <hunger> Still no kdebase/kdegraphics:-(
[11:25] <Riddell> hunger: they'll have new packages in them that elmo needs to approve
[11:25] <JRe> amu: yeah you're right, i'll wait two weeks more
[11:25] <hunger> Riddell: Ah, thanks for the information!
[01:03] <hunger> Why is GNU code always so chaotic?
[01:04] <JRe> ;) ;) ;)
[01:06] <hunger> No docs, lots of 3letter dirs/subdirs, all kinds of independent libs come bundled, files several thousand lines long each, no comments, tab/spaces used all over the place, thousands of warnings when building, ... DEPRESSING!
[01:06] <hunger> Oh... and of course the test suite is provided but does not even start.
[01:07] <JRe> i see what you mean
[01:40] <JRe> hunger: what are you coding?
[01:40] <JRe> or packaging?
[04:09] <KaiL|Sheep> kdebase 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0pre3 :)
[04:13] <Riddell> gosh
[04:13] <KaiL|Sheep> kdegraphics too ;)
[04:14] <KaiL|Sheep> only missing gwenview
[04:16] <Riddell> and if I'm not mistaken kdelibs -ubuntu3.2 is finaly in hoary
[04:16] <KaiL|Sheep> apt-cache sais so
[04:37] <uniq> riddell: i'm compiling the fixes at kubuntu.org for powerpc too.. if you're interested.
[04:43] <Riddell> uniq: kdelibs and knetworkconf shouldn't be needed any more
[04:43] <Riddell> just kaffeine
[04:44] <uniq> ok.
[04:45] <uniq> good.. kaffine is the one i'm compiling now.
[04:46] <Riddell> groovy
[04:46] <Riddell> by the way, kubuntu junior job https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11206
[04:46] <Riddell> just for those who missed it
[04:48] <uniq> so knemo needs love..
[04:49] <Riddell> icon rename and patch to code somewhere
[04:49] <uniq> i'll take a look at it.
[04:49] <Riddell> actually it might be easier to do knetworkconf since that's in KDE's SVN and I could put the change upstream
[04:49] <uniq> ok.
[04:50] <uniq> then we'll do kdenetworkconf.
[04:50] <uniq> knetworkconf actually.
[05:18] <motaboy> Riddell: on kdepim ML Adriaan de Groot <groot@kde.org> posted a patch for kpilot suggesting to apply it to the kde 3.4.1 release that fix some critical bugs. I didn't see it on kde-packagers.
[05:20] <Riddell> motaboy: a copy has just arrived in my inbox
[05:20] <Riddell> List-Id: packagers of binary packages <kde-packager
[05:21] <Riddell> guess he BCCed kde-packager
[05:21] <Riddell> well that gives me something to do while I wait for kdebindings to compile it's 10 Megabyte files
[05:25] <doko> anyone to upload kde-i18n soon?
[05:26] <Riddell> doko: I'm hoping on today
[05:26] <Riddell> doko: in a hurry for it?
[05:27] <Riddell> the whole structure of kde-i18n has changed
[05:27] <doko> no
[06:26] <KaiL> Riddell: a new kdenetwork soon? :))
[06:26] <Riddell> KaiL: dunno, amu locked that one
[06:55] <uniq> amu: ping?
[07:17] <uniq> riddell: fixed knetworkconf uploading. no problem installing knemo with this version installed. (could you verify?)
[07:18] <uniq> http://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/knetworkconf/
[07:31] <Riddell> uniq: nasty debdiff to knetworkconf ubuntu4 with that
[07:33] <uniq> hmm..
[07:34] <Riddell> and there's no debian/patches
[07:35] <uniq> i'll change it. 
[07:36] <Riddell> :)
[07:38] <uniq> should the patch be for the diffed version or the original source? 
[07:40] <uniq> nevermind.. it's obvious :)
[07:40] <Riddell> for the origional
[07:40] <Riddell> then you need something in debian/rules to apply the patches in debian/patches
[07:42] <Riddell> it's a cdbs package so just copy the cdbs patch line from any kde package
[07:42] <Riddell> and it'll do that patch magic
[07:42] <uniq> working on it :)
[07:43] <uniq> cdbs is great.
[09:13] <uniq> riddell: new package, could you take a look? - http://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/knetworkconf/
[09:31] <Riddell> uniq: looks nice
[09:31] <Riddell> debdiff is still horrible, I wonder why
[09:32] <Riddell> and the way that thing installs it's icons is pretty messy generaly
[09:32] <uniq> hum. the only change is the patch and the changelog entry.
[09:48] <Riddell> yeah, weird.  shall I upload to breezy?
[09:50] <uniq> it's the newest version? 
[09:50] <uniq> sure.
[09:50] <uniq> could maybe checkout the latest svn and make a package.. 
[09:51] <Riddell> let me send back this fix first :)
[09:51] <uniq> sure :)
[09:52] <uniq> i'll have to make a breezy chroot.
[09:54] <uniq> riddell: seen the lastest comment from mdz, on the knetworkconf issue? 
[09:57] <Riddell> well it doesn't matter where it's fixed, so long as one of them does it
[09:58] <uniq> agree.d
[10:03] <uniq> riddell: are you uploading to hoary-updates too? 
[10:06] <Riddell> uniq: that's it on kubuntu hoary-updates now
[10:10] <uniq> nice.
[10:12] <uniq> what about ubuntu hoary-updates? 
[10:13] <Riddell> they won't take it since the issue is a universe one
[10:13] <uniq> ok.
[10:13] <Riddell> hmm, kde cvs doesn't have those icons mentioned in the Makefile.am
[10:14] <uniq> so i'll just leave the bug as assigned, or maybe mark it as universe then? 
[10:15] <Riddell> I would mark is as fixed
[10:16] <uniq> fixed in breezy or something? 
[10:17] <Riddell> yes
[10:19] <uniq> done.
[10:20] <uniq> maybe we sould put some info about hoary-updates on the webpage? 
[10:20] <uniq> if small fixes like this one will be available from there.. 
[10:20] <uniq> in the future.
[10:36] <Riddell> I'm nervous to do that because I'm not sure how the ubuntu developers would feel about us having our own repository 
[10:37] <uniq> ugh.. i mentioned the deb line in the comment to the bug.
[10:37] <uniq> stupid of me.
[10:38] <Riddell> well I don't expect to keep it top secret :)
[10:38] <Riddell> thanks for your help by the way
[10:39] <uniq> happy to be helpful.. and thanks for having me make that patch :)
[10:39] <uniq> i learned the cdbs patchsystem ;)
[11:31] <Riddell> KubuntuIbook :)
[11:45] <uniq> :)
[11:47] <uniq> sharing info while i'm doing my setup.. else i'll just forget how i did it :)