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Morandir | anyone want some broken shards of kernel? Tm_T? | 12:05 |
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Tm_T | Morandir: ? | 12:14 |
Morandir | we did a 2nd compile of the kernel... now I have kernel pieces all over the floor and in the rug... | 12:15 |
Morandir | need any? | 12:15 |
Tm_T | haha | 12:16 |
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JohninMT | Hello....I am having a problem connecting with apt and firefox(secure sites. Konqueror works ok. I am going through a dsl router. W 9 with firefox works ok....the last thing i had added last night was dillo. I removed it today, but the same result | 12:21 |
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Morandir | >_< | 12:34 |
Morandir | sad to say, but I think its gentoo time.. | 12:34 |
DiabloD3 | bad Morandir! | 12:36 |
Morandir | no, not bad | 12:36 |
DiabloD3 | gentoo only leads to instability and retardation | 12:36 |
Morandir | ubuntu has exceeded our limits of aggravation | 12:36 |
DiabloD3 | have you asked for help? | 12:38 |
Morandir | ... | 12:38 |
Morandir | much | 12:38 |
DiabloD3 | whats the problem? | 12:38 |
Morandir | and scoured many forums | 12:38 |
Morandir | 2.6.11 kernel has exploded in to many shards of kernel panics and lack of evms for software raid | 12:38 |
DiabloD3 | dont use 2.6.11 | 12:39 |
Morandir | ... | 12:39 |
Morandir | but I hard freeze if ever a screen resolution switch is made | 12:39 |
DiabloD3 | theres a reason why linux-386/686 doesnt point to 2.6.11 yet | 12:39 |
mrmanic | I thought 2.6.11 was a total dev kernel | 12:39 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: nope, its 2.6.x. | 12:40 |
mrmanic | and 2.6.12 was supposed to be a stable kernel | 12:40 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: nope. | 12:40 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: kernels dont use the even/odd minor version numbering system | 12:40 |
mrmanic | pretty sure they do | 12:40 |
DiabloD3 | it uses 2.5/2.6 instead, where 2.5 is unstable and 2.6 is stable | 12:40 |
mrmanic | lemme find the post. | 12:40 |
Morandir | and we cant get video ati modules in unless we build the old kernel, but have no source for it | 12:40 |
mrmanic | they switched in like march | 12:40 |
mrmanic | IIRC | 12:40 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: I've been compiling kernels longer than you've been using linux. | 12:40 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: so shush. | 12:40 |
DiabloD3 | Morandir: like I said, dont use 2.6.11 | 12:41 |
Morandir | but I cant use 2.6.10 either | 12:41 |
DiabloD3 | Morandir: why not? | 12:41 |
Morandir | video problems | 12:41 |
DiabloD3 | what video card? | 12:41 |
Morandir | got i386 binaries from ati | 12:41 |
Morandir | ati 8500dv AIW | 12:42 |
DiabloD3 | wait, you're attempting to use the ati binary drivers? | 12:42 |
DiabloD3 | you need to apt-get those | 12:42 |
Morandir | we tried the apt-get, but there wasnt any bin's | 12:42 |
Morandir | for ati | 12:42 |
Morandir | that we saw | 12:42 |
DiabloD3 | grab linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 (or whichever kernel you use) and xorg-driver-fglrx | 12:42 |
Morandir | xorg-driver-fglrx huh? | 12:43 |
DiabloD3 | yeah, thats the xorg half of the driver | 12:43 |
mrmanic | DiabloD3: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4790 | 12:43 |
DiabloD3 | the kernel modules are in linux-restricted-modules | 12:43 |
mrmanic | DiabloD3: but you may be right, I didn't see any resolution to the proposal | 12:44 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: yeah, linus decided not to do that | 12:44 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: and kept it as 2.6.11.x as 'semi-stable' | 12:44 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: or rather, stable bits to be added to 2.6.11 | 12:44 |
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DiabloD3 | mrmanic: true unstable is in linus's git tree | 12:45 |
mrmanic | Well I didn't really figure anything truly unstable would even make it into even a minor point release. | 12:46 |
Morandir | how should you choose between -386 and -686 kernels when running AMD 2100+ XP proc | 12:46 |
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mrmanic | Why is 2.6.12 so slow in finalizing? | 12:46 |
mrmanic | I thought there was a -k7 kernel for that | 12:46 |
DiabloD3 | Morandir: you want -k7 | 12:47 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: because hes got a lot of crap to do | 12:47 |
DiabloD3 | mrmanic: that, and 2.6.x.y works well | 12:47 |
DiabloD3 | Morandir: theres -386, -686, -686-smp, -k7, and -k7-smp | 12:48 |
Morandir | yes there is | 12:48 |
Morandir | but isnt k7 older procs? | 12:48 |
DiabloD3 | yours is a k7. | 12:48 |
Morandir | k | 12:48 |
DiabloD3 | k7 is just the internal arch name of all athlons | 12:48 |
DiabloD3 | btw, Morandir, you may also want xorg-driver-fglrx-dev and fglrx-control | 12:48 |
Morandir | I saw fglrx-control through kynaptic, but havent seen the xorg-driver-fglrx | 12:49 |
DiabloD3 | Morandir: you can just apt-get install them, you know | 12:49 |
DiabloD3 | most people dont use synaptic/kynaptic and choose to use the command line tools instead | 12:50 |
Morandir | I usually do a mix | 12:53 |
Morandir | kynaptic lets me see whats available | 12:53 |
DiabloD3 | yeah, but when you already have the package name, apt-get install away | 12:54 |
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DiabloD3 | Morandir: so, install them yet? | 12:55 |
JohninMT | Hello....I have been using kubuntu ...today I was having trouble accessing secure websites with firefox. I was able to use Konqueror..I was unable to use apt-get..When I attempted to access irc.....it looked like I was bumping people out..just by entering a room. I am afraid the sytem may have been compromised. Could it be something else | 12:57 |
JohninMT | I am actully using the 98 I dual boot with now | 12:58 |
DiabloD3 | JohninMT: well, you cant bump people off irc. | 12:59 |
DiabloD3 | JohninMT: without further descriptions, I cant fix your problem. | 12:59 |
JohninMT | Everything was working fine...last night I added dillo | 01:00 |
DiabloD3 | woah | 01:00 |
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DiabloD3 | dillo is way outdated | 01:00 |
JohninMT | one other wierd this is that the file menu "bookmarks" was now bookmars" in konqueror | 01:00 |
JohninMT | I removed it today.....since it seemed like the last thing I did | 01:01 |
DiabloD3 | sounds like dillo did something wrong | 01:01 |
DiabloD3 | I wonder if something else happened | 01:01 |
DiabloD3 | like, as if your partition got scrambled | 01:01 |
JohninMT | apt-get does not work anymore | 01:01 |
JohninMT | the other thing that was new was amoraK..I do not usually use it but started last night | 01:02 |
DiabloD3 | yeah, it seriously sounds like something went wrong | 01:02 |
DiabloD3 | you dont have desktop sharing enabled, do you? | 01:02 |
JohninMT | is there a way to repair it without re-installing completely? | 01:03 |
Morandir | DiabloD3: dl'n | 01:03 |
JohninMT | no....I do not remember doing that..but I do have another machine with MEPIS that I have accessed from this one | 01:03 |
DiabloD3 | JohninMT: how do you do that? | 01:04 |
JohninMT | could something malicious have happened if sharing was enabled | 01:04 |
DiabloD3 | yeah, lots of stuff can go on once you enable stuff | 01:04 |
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JohninMT | well I go to konqueror from the taskbar..and choose network folders and then samba | 01:04 |
DiabloD3 | desktop sharing, telnet, samba, nfs are all bad | 01:04 |
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JohninMT | it is odd that konqeror kept working | 01:04 |
DiabloD3 | you should only use them on closed networks | 01:05 |
JohninMT | it still does | 01:05 |
JohninMT | ok | 01:05 |
DiabloD3 | konq works because its not firefox | 01:05 |
DiabloD3 | they implement their own methods to do stuff, and dont share | 01:05 |
JohninMT | and the firefox is from mozilla not from apt | 01:05 |
JohninMT | oh i SEE | 01:05 |
JohninMT | oops | 01:05 |
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JohninMT | and if the system is compromised the intruder would not want to disable konq becuz that is their way in? | 01:06 |
JohninMT | what should I do | 01:06 |
DiabloD3 | JohninMT: well, it depends on what happened | 01:07 |
DiabloD3 | JohninMT: what folders have you shared? | 01:07 |
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JohninMT | if there were any it would have been home.....the other thing is that I did automount and use the FAT32 partitions | 01:07 |
DiabloD3 | automount wont screw stuff up | 01:08 |
JohninMT | ok | 01:08 |
DiabloD3 | heres a hint, dont share your home | 01:08 |
DiabloD3 | ever | 01:08 |
JohninMT | and it still works fine | 01:08 |
JohninMT | ok | 01:08 |
DiabloD3 | share a folder inside of your home thats set aside just for items you want to share | 01:08 |
JohninMT | also I did add repositories... | 01:08 |
JohninMT | ok | 01:08 |
DiabloD3 | which repos? | 01:08 |
JohninMT | some were from the unofficial guide | 01:09 |
JohninMT | but the last ones were so that I could update digikam | 01:09 |
DiabloD3 | could you tell me which ones? | 01:09 |
DiabloD3 | they're in /etc/apt/sources.list, btw | 01:09 |
JohninMT | I do not remember..I have it written in a text file in Kubuntu... | 01:10 |
JohninMT | let me go back in there and come back....I did receive warnings in apt | 01:10 |
JohninMT | I will be back | 01:10 |
JohninMT | btw...ty for the help | 01:10 |
DiabloD3 | okay | 01:10 |
JohninMT | and I do love Kubuntu | 01:10 |
Morandir | DiabloD3: couldnt get the xorg-drivers-fglrx | 01:12 |
DiabloD3 | Morandir: paste error messages | 01:12 |
Morandir | across computers? | 01:13 |
Morandir | >_> | 01:13 |
DiabloD3 | well, I need something more than 'couldnt get' ;) | 01:14 |
Morandir | I know | 01:14 |
Morandir | got the .10 kernel for -k7 | 01:14 |
DiabloD3 | brb | 01:17 |
transgress | those drivers worked fine for me with the -k7 kernel... | 01:17 |
DiabloD3 | back | 01:18 |
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Morandir | okay | 01:23 |
JohninMT | I will paste my sources from last backward | 01:24 |
JohninMT | http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary ./ | 01:24 |
JohninMT | http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary | 01:24 |
JohninMT | http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted | 01:25 |
JohninMT | http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted | 01:25 |
DiabloD3 | <JohninMT> http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary ./ | 01:25 |
DiabloD3 | <JohninMT> http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary | 01:25 |
DiabloD3 | those look broken | 01:25 |
JohninMT | right now nothing can be updated.. | 01:26 |
DiabloD3 | yeah because those sources are broken | 01:26 |
JohninMT | one other thing...firefox appears to be a security things.. | 01:26 |
DiabloD3 | remove them, and try updating again | 01:26 |
JohninMT | secure..places like My Yahoo and ebay do not open | 01:26 |
JohninMT | ok | 01:26 |
JohninMT | what repairs can be made in recovery mode? | 01:27 |
DiabloD3 | all | 01:27 |
DiabloD3 | recovery mode just doesnt start X | 01:27 |
JohninMT | I was thinking dillo can not go to secure sites..so is there some kind of relationship? | 01:28 |
DiabloD3 | dillo sucks | 01:28 |
DiabloD3 | and no, it can go to secure sites, but it just sucks hard | 01:28 |
JohninMT | but I did not see any dependencies come with it..and ist seemed to deteriorate | 01:29 |
JohninMT | almost like a dns error | 01:29 |
JohninMT | but of course windows uses the same dns and...here I am | 01:29 |
DiabloD3 | dunno what happened | 01:30 |
JohninMT | Well thanks again for the help...I think I will do a do over tonight..and be a little careful with what I add ;) | 01:30 |
DiabloD3 | JohninMT: you _could_ just format your linux partition and reinstall ubuntu | 01:30 |
JohninMT | I think I will do that | 01:30 |
JohninMT | \it is probably the easiest thing to do | 01:30 |
JohninMT | thanks again..talk to you later.... | 01:30 |
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_phate_ | is there away to get the desktop Icons back? | 01:48 |
Tm_T | hmm, how they disappeared? | 01:49 |
_phate_ | well they aren't their to begin with | 01:50 |
Tm_T | ah | 01:50 |
Tm_T | rightclick on desktop -> conf -> behaviour | 01:51 |
_phate_ | I would assume its because kubuntu k | 01:51 |
Tm_T | eh | 01:51 |
_phate_ | whops | 01:51 |
_phate_ | sorry | 01:51 |
Tm_T | yeah, you can control virtually everything ;) | 01:52 |
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Tm_T | _phate_: you got it? | 01:57 |
Tm_T | haha | 01:58 |
sirk | back | 02:03 |
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Tm_T | Riddell: | 02:09 |
transgress | hmm damn small linux is running nicely on 32 megs of ram | 02:11 |
jbn-o | is there a good website or blog (perhaps a planet blog) to read for konqueror work? I'm curious if any of CSS3 will be implemented soon, particularly border-radius. | 02:13 |
Tm_T | yup | 02:13 |
Tm_T | erh, what's in new firefox package? | 02:14 |
transgress | security fixes probably | 02:14 |
Tm_T | hmm | 02:14 |
Tm_T | what now? | 02:14 |
transgress | iuno... i barely use it since it's only on my laptop | 02:15 |
Tm_T | hmm, I'll stick with 1.0.4 :p | 02:15 |
Tm_T | as long as it works | 02:15 |
Tm_T | ah, so I hold mozilla-firefox packages :p | 02:15 |
Tm_T | and voil | 02:15 |
transgress | i continue to wonder if they will ever take out gnome-support from the main firefox package... | 02:16 |
transgress | on apt | 02:16 |
Tm_T | oh | 02:17 |
transgress | i won't use it on kubuntu until they do... i just stick with konq | 02:17 |
Tm_T | hmm, I have no trouble with "gnome support" package | 02:18 |
transgress | it's not that i would have trouble with it... i just don't want it | 02:20 |
Tm_T | hmm | 02:21 |
transgress | i don't need 50 megs of gnome on a kde only system... i have no urge to put gnome on this box... in fact i used to run ubuntu on it but didn't want it | 02:21 |
Tm_T | I have lots of gtk and gnome stuff | 02:21 |
Tm_T | and why not | 02:21 |
transgress | because i don't need it... i have gtk stuff... but not gnome stuff | 02:22 |
transgress | don't have any use for it... | 02:22 |
Tm_T | heh | 02:24 |
Tm_T | I collect all trash =) | 02:24 |
Tm_T | "hmm, interesting package, maybe I need it someday" | 02:24 |
transgress | heh | 02:24 |
transgress | i'm actually tempted to get it just for the gnome-vfs or whatever it is that does the automounting... it's the only way i can get my external hard drive to mount for some reason | 02:25 |
Tm_T | yeah, I must have too large HD, still muach free space :/ | 02:26 |
Tm_T | -a | 02:26 |
Tm_T | I have too thick fingers :/ | 02:27 |
transgress | i have plenty of freespace | 02:27 |
transgress | but i'm also the type of person who runs deborphan on a regular basis to make sure i'm just not wasting space | 02:27 |
Tm_T | haha | 02:28 |
Tm_T | some times I do so too | 02:28 |
Tm_T | but some times I think I really don't need to :p | 02:28 |
transgress | i wonder which is faster... fluxbox or windowmaker | 02:29 |
Tm_T | hmm, haven't seen any difference | 02:30 |
Tm_T | maybe wmaker is slightly | 02:30 |
Tm_T | I like it =) | 02:30 |
transgress | i like wmaker for the way it minimizes to icons | 02:30 |
transgress | i wish i could do that in kde... instead of minimizing to the taskbar | 02:30 |
Tm_T | it's just fucking stupid that fedora doesn't have packages for wmaker really :/ | 02:31 |
transgress | it doesn't? that sucks | 02:31 |
transgress | a lot | 02:31 |
Tm_T | you tell me =) | 02:31 |
transgress | Tm_T: you using the fedorafaq.org yum.conf? | 02:31 |
Tm_T | hmm, dunno | 02:31 |
Tm_T | maybe + lots of other stuff | 02:31 |
transgress | i found most everything i needed with that yum.conf heh | 02:32 |
Tm_T | most | 02:32 |
transgress | but i haven't used it in a while | 02:32 |
transgress | planning on putting fc4 on my lappy... thinking of putting the test3 on there to play with for a bit | 02:33 |
Tm_T | my second desktop is running FC3 | 02:33 |
Tm_T | uses wmaker =) | 02:33 |
transgress | hey what is the file i need to edit to change my default windowmanager? | 02:33 |
Tm_T | so I don't have wmaker-config thing or anything :/ | 02:33 |
transgress | i wanna go from flux to wmaker | 02:33 |
Tm_T | hmm, good guestion =) | 02:33 |
Tm_T | don't know really | 02:33 |
Tm_T | I have always trouble with G/KDM | 02:34 |
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transgress | ah well then | 02:49 |
transgress | it's not pretty but it doesn't need to be | 02:49 |
transgress | just nice and simple | 02:49 |
DiabloD3 | hrm. | 02:52 |
DiabloD3 | ubuntu kernels dont come with oss drivers built, do they? | 02:53 |
Tm_T | eh? | 02:55 |
DiabloD3 | eh eh? | 02:56 |
Tm_T | well, I think I use oss atm | 02:56 |
DiabloD3 | you probably use alsa | 02:56 |
Tm_T | hmm, amaroK uses osssink | 02:57 |
transgress | why would you want oss? | 02:57 |
DiabloD3 | transgress: driver testing | 02:58 |
DiabloD3 | tm_T: doesnt mean you use oss | 02:58 |
DiabloD3 | tm_T: alsa can emulate oss | 02:58 |
Tm_T | hmm | 02:59 |
Morandir | >____________< | 02:59 |
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Morandir | DIabloD3 >_< | 03:00 |
Tm_T | DiabloD3: so test if it's there ;) | 03:00 |
DiabloD3 | heh | 03:01 |
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DiabloD3 | w00t | 03:22 |
DiabloD3 | I just checked | 03:22 |
DiabloD3 | its there | 03:22 |
Tm_T | heh | 03:22 |
Tm_T | I thought so | 03:22 |
DiabloD3 | Im tracking down a bug in the joystick driver for es1371 | 03:23 |
DiabloD3 | and I dont feel like building a new kernel | 03:23 |
crimsun | hmm? you wouldn't build a module? | 03:26 |
DiabloD3 | you mean just the module? no | 03:26 |
DiabloD3 | I'd have to grab the ubuntufied version of the source | 03:26 |
DiabloD3 | and hop through all these steps and crap | 03:27 |
DiabloD3 | its easier to just build a whole new kernel | 03:27 |
crimsun | gameport, etc.? | 03:28 |
DiabloD3 | crimsun: erm, I dont understand your question | 03:28 |
DiabloD3 | gameport etc already exist | 03:28 |
DiabloD3 | es1371 cards have their own internal driver for the gameport | 03:28 |
crimsun | but are you using a Ubuntu kernel or your own? | 03:29 |
DiabloD3 | apparently alsa's is broken for atleast my card, and probably several too | 03:29 |
DiabloD3 | ubuntu kernel atm | 03:29 |
DiabloD3 | I havent gotten around to building my own kernel yet | 03:29 |
DiabloD3 | (its on my todo list... really!) | 03:29 |
crimsun | yeah, es1371 is modularised, so you don't have to recompile everything | 03:30 |
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_sophie | Hi all I need help as a new user of kunbuntu (7 days now) | 03:32 |
transgress | far too much of your life story for my liking | 03:33 |
transgress | but anyways, what do you need? | 03:33 |
_sophie | Your help would be appreciated: I need to install mplayer | 03:33 |
transgress | enable multiverse and universe and then sudo apt-get install mplayer | 03:34 |
DiabloD3 | crimsun: which is why I checked to see if it was even built in the first place | 03:34 |
_sophie | How dp I install using apt-get I can<t find a package | 03:34 |
transgress | _sophie: you enable universe and multiverse in your sources.list | 03:34 |
_sophie | transgress: I<ll have a look now | 03:34 |
transgress | _sophie: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto | 03:34 |
_sophie | deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe | 03:35 |
_sophie | # deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe | 03:35 |
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_sophie | transgress: which one | 03:35 |
transgress | well it appears that the universe binaries are already enabled | 03:36 |
DiabloD3 | wahoo | 03:36 |
DiabloD3 | oss works | 03:36 |
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transgress | copy that line and paste it, then change the word universe to multiverse | 03:36 |
transgress | then save, and apt-get update | 03:36 |
DiabloD3 | transgress: thats a little excessive | 03:37 |
DiabloD3 | he could have just added the word multiverse after it | 03:37 |
_sophie | transgress: Couldn't find package mplayer | 03:37 |
_sophie | transgress: why change the word universe to multiverse | 03:38 |
transgress | DiabloD3: true... i just like to keep things all on their own... otherwise i miss shit... | 03:38 |
transgress | _sophie: because mplayer is in multiverse | 03:38 |
DiabloD3 | _sophie: ... so it adds the multiverse repo | 03:39 |
transgress | do what diablo said... just add multiverse to the end | 03:39 |
transgress | and oh... RTFM i sent you | 03:39 |
DiabloD3 | transgress: see, Im the opposite, I prefer having main restricted universe multiverse all on one line so I dont miss shit | 03:39 |
_sophie | transgress: tks now apt-get can actually be found by apt-get | 03:43 |
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SlicerDicer | anybody down for playing UT2004? | 03:43 |
transgress | i would, but i'm working | 03:44 |
SlicerDicer | :/ | 03:45 |
transgress | and normally i would while i'm working, but i just found something oh so nice... someone didn't sign up for a new billing system... and somehow we have missed that he hasn't been billed for a fucking year | 03:46 |
_sophie | transgress: I choose mplayer-586 but now I have some unmet depndencies libsvga and I can<t install thaht | 03:47 |
_sophie | transgress: I thought apt-get would be simpler than the usual rpm dance on some opther distros | 03:48 |
transgress | you don't have marillat added do you? | 03:48 |
crimsun | _sophie: you need to use only the debian-marillat testing repo along with ubuntu's multiverse | 03:48 |
transgress | it is | 03:48 |
transgress | someone should really put that in the wiki | 03:48 |
crimsun | _sophie: then you need to tell aptitude specifically which version of mplayer-586 to install | 03:48 |
transgress | because i know i've told a dozen people that already | 03:48 |
_sophie | transgress: no marillat??\ | 03:48 |
_sophie | crimsun: how | 03:49 |
crimsun | _sophie: add it by editing /etc/apt/sources.list | 03:49 |
crimsun | _sophie: please use http://pastebin.com instead of querying me | 03:50 |
crimsun | gah | 03:51 |
crimsun | (you're still querying me) | 03:51 |
transgress | haha | 03:53 |
_sophie | crimsun: sorry and tks at the same time | 03:53 |
crimsun | _sophie: still waiting on pastebin.com | 04:00 |
Tm_T | eh, not funny | 04:00 |
Tm_T | konqi crashes if I try to open rightclickmenu | 04:00 |
Tm_T | hmm, I just wonder what I broke :p | 04:00 |
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jkeel | hi all. would anyone like to comment on Kubuntu PPC? I'm thinking about installing it | 04:02 |
jkeel | on a 12" Powerbook | 04:02 |
jkeel | any issues/likes/dislikes? | 04:03 |
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vardhan_ | aptitude install kdesdk ===> kdesdk: Depends: kspy (>= 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu5) but it is not installable | 04:04 |
vardhan_ | How can I install kdesdk i Hoary ? | 04:04 |
Tm_T | hmm | 04:06 |
jkeel | channel isn't very active.. | 04:06 |
Tm_T | no, we sleep in europe ;) | 04:07 |
Tm_T | except me | 04:07 |
jkeel | :) | 04:09 |
jkeel | on the east coast of the US, it's 10:00 | 04:09 |
jkeel | well, I think I'll take the Kubuntu plunge anyway... | 04:10 |
jkeel | Tm_T: do you use Kubuntu? | 04:10 |
_sophie | crimsun: http://pastebin.com/290492 | 04:10 |
Tm_T | jkeel: sure | 04:11 |
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crimsun | _sophie: what cpu? | 04:11 |
_sophie | crimsun: athlon | 04:11 |
_sophie | crimsun: athlon | 04:12 |
crimsun | _sophie: sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 | 04:12 |
crimsun | _sophie: make sure you have multiverse and debian-marillat's testing enabled | 04:12 |
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_sophie | <div class="box"><center><b>deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main</b> | 04:14 |
_sophie | </center> | 04:14 |
_sophie | </div> | 04:14 |
_sophie | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main | 04:14 |
_sophie | crimsun: you want me to add | 04:14 |
crimsun | yes, that. | 04:14 |
crimsun | but you should _not_ have stable or unstable listed | 04:14 |
Tm_T | eh | 04:15 |
Tm_T | why people do such pastes :/ | 04:15 |
Tm_T | " <div class="box"><center><b> " | 04:16 |
Tm_T | "ok" | 04:16 |
_sophie | Tm_T: Sorry my fault | 04:18 |
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andrewski | where could i find the app settings for, say, kaudiocreator? | 04:19 |
transgress | andrewski: check .kde | 04:20 |
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andrewski | transgress: ok, found them. .kde/share/config/foo | 04:22 |
andrewski | thanks. | 04:22 |
_sophie | crimsun: http://pastebin.com/290496 | 04:23 |
_sophie | crimsun: have a look | 04:23 |
andrewski | crimsun: yet again, everywhere! :P | 04:23 |
crimsun | _sophie: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin | 04:24 |
_sophie | crimsun: http://pastebin.com/290497 | 04:25 |
crimsun | _sophie: you're missing universe | 04:25 |
crimsun | _sophie: you need deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe | 04:26 |
crimsun | and deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe | 04:26 |
_sophie | crimsun: seems to be working now but still get the same pgp key error when doing update | 04:30 |
crimsun | _sophie: did you follow wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary ? | 04:30 |
_sophie | crimsun: Nope I follwoed instructions on http://debian.video.free.fr/ | 04:31 |
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LiquidAir | hi | 04:31 |
crimsun | _sophie: use my instructions on that wiki page | 04:31 |
LiquidAir | i just finished the installation and it booted up into kde; but after rebooting it no longer boots up kde | 04:32 |
LiquidAir | it starts up X but all i get is a black screen | 04:32 |
LiquidAir | ctrl+alt+backspace does not work | 04:33 |
LiquidAir | which is strange because i saw no option to disable that in xorg.org | 04:33 |
LiquidAir | maybe it locked up? | 04:33 |
Tm_T | hmm | 04:33 |
LiquidAir | but it did work the first time O_o | 04:33 |
Tm_T | topic? | 04:33 |
LiquidAir | huh? | 04:34 |
_sophie | crimsun: thakns so much for your time but please see http://pastebin.com/290501 | 04:35 |
Tm_T | LiquidAir: try to add " deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main " into your sources.list | 04:36 |
Tm_T | that shouldn't help though | 04:36 |
LiquidAir | hmm.. | 04:36 |
LiquidAir | ok i will but i'd like something that would help | 04:37 |
crimsun | _sophie: you didn't follow my directions | 04:37 |
crimsun | _sophie: what you're doing there is merging the archive key into root's keyring. | 04:37 |
crimsun | _sophie: you don't want to do that; you want to merge it into apt-key's keyring | 04:37 |
Tm_T | LiquidAir: try, dunno really | 04:39 |
_sophie | crimsun: but when I don't run has su it does not work | 04:39 |
_sophie | crimsun: gpg: can't open `/home/sophie/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' | 04:40 |
_sophie | crimsun: For some reason mplayer is working now I just need to install some codecs | 04:41 |
_sophie | crimsun: *windows codecs | 04:41 |
crimsun | _sophie: w32codecs. The instructions are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats | 04:43 |
crimsun | _sophie: please read wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary carefully | 04:43 |
crimsun | bbl | 04:43 |
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Tm_Nuada | plah | 04:46 |
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Tm_Nuada | hmm | 04:53 |
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DiabloD3 | hey Riddell | 05:12 |
Tm_T | DiabloD3: eh, I've got a problem | 05:28 |
DiabloD3 | damnit, why does everyone come to me >_< | 05:28 |
Tm_T | =) | 05:29 |
DiabloD3 | I should start charging or some shit | 05:29 |
Tm_T | I think this is something new and interesting | 05:29 |
Tm_T | " dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) " | 05:30 |
Tm_T | etc | 05:30 |
DiabloD3 | I need more than that | 05:30 |
Tm_T | so, apt failed to install properly a package, but that app is running :p | 05:30 |
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Tm_T | and ofcourse dpkg says "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove knemo which isn't installed." | 05:32 |
Tm_T | fucking great | 05:32 |
DiabloD3 | maybe knemo isnt even installed | 05:32 |
Tm_T | hmm, so why it's running? | 05:32 |
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Tm_T | and there's no [X] to close it :p | 05:33 |
DiabloD3 | because you forgot to turn it off first? | 05:33 |
runelind | is there a way to scan for removable media? when I put in my dvd-rom in my laptop while the OS is running, it doesn't pick up that there is a new device | 05:33 |
Tm_T | DiabloD3: I never started it myself | 05:33 |
DiabloD3 | tm_T: reinstall windows./ | 05:33 |
Tm_T | :p | 05:33 |
DiabloD3 | runelind: erm, thats usually done automatically | 05:33 |
transgress | no one would know of a program that lets you minimize programs to an icon on the desktop ala windowmaker would you? | 05:33 |
DiabloD3 | transgress: .... windowmaker! | 05:34 |
runelind | DiabloD3: it didn't, maybe it was just messed up that one time | 05:34 |
Tm_T | uah | 05:34 |
DiabloD3 | runelind: an icon should appear on your desktop | 05:34 |
transgress | DiabloD3: i prefer to stick with kde... it's slightly... prettier | 05:35 |
transgress | and it's menus are far easier to deal with | 05:35 |
DiabloD3 | heh | 05:35 |
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_sophie | crimsun: Everything is working noew tks | 05:36 |
crimsun | np | 05:40 |
_sophie | crimsun: Thanks again Ive got my mplayer back | 05:42 |
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Tm_T | errrorr | 05:43 |
_sophie | crimsun: now to get my java fix for azureus | 05:43 |
transgress | java is easy to get | 05:45 |
transgress | if you read the wiki | 05:45 |
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dicrapio | new to kubuntu and all was well but no longer have admin priviliges with normal user, found nothing in the FAQ | 05:49 |
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Peps | Anyone here? | 06:07 |
Tm_T | yup | 06:07 |
Peps | When I installed kubuntu hoary, an icon would pop automatically when I insert a cdrom. Now ufter the update it does no happen. Any ideas how to restore it? | 06:08 |
Tm_T | Peps: hmm, are you sure about your desktop settings? | 06:09 |
Peps | what do you mean? | 06:09 |
Tm_T | rightclick in desk -> conf -> behaviour | 06:10 |
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Peps | you mean under "device icons?" | 06:10 |
Peps | wow - did the trick!!!! thanks a bundle | 06:11 |
Tm_T | yup | 06:12 |
Tm_T | =) | 06:12 |
Peps | but why would it disapear. I also lost the trash icon on the menu bar ... | 06:12 |
Tm_T | don't ask, I have my own problems atm :p | 06:13 |
Tm_T | I lost one pic =) | 06:13 |
Peps | sorry. Thanks for the help. Any idea why this is not in the control center. All the others are there? | 06:15 |
Peps | sorry, it is there. NOw that i know where to look :( silly | 06:16 |
Tm_T | =) | 06:16 |
Tm_T | Peps: np, I do lost things way too often =) | 06:16 |
Peps | Well, this is way better than RH 8.0. I am out of rpm hell at least | 06:17 |
Tm_T | haha, that's true =) | 06:18 |
Tm_T | have you tried amaroK yet? | 06:18 |
Peps | I am too used to xmms | 06:19 |
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Peps | There is a new kernel 2.6.10-34.1. ANyone can tell me what it fixes and is it important to upgrade? | 06:28 |
Tm_T | hmm, 34? | 06:31 |
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_matt | can sombody help me with somthing plz? | 06:32 |
Tm_T | yes? | 06:32 |
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_matt | ok i finally got gaim insatlled and it says somthing about SSL....so i did an update and a apt-get of it...well the apt get worked but then said package could not be found | 06:32 |
_matt | im new with linux so yea...lol | 06:33 |
Tm_T | heh | 06:33 |
_matt | i googled SSL...and you need it for loggin in on MSN | 06:33 |
Tm_T | maybe you need to add something to your sources.list | 06:33 |
_matt | hmmm lol i just got my source.list fixed .......it was really messed up | 06:33 |
_matt | hmmm no suggestions then???.......... | 06:35 |
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Tm_T | http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/swmgmt.html | 06:36 |
Nexus | ok yea ive been there.......and thats how i got my source.list screwed up to begin with....:S | 06:37 |
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Tm_T | eh :p | 06:39 |
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Nexus | yep... | 06:40 |
Nexus | hmmmmmmmm all i need is the SSL library thingy i guess lol......but i have no idea how to install it or anything....wow .... | 06:40 |
Furic | is there any way i can get kopete 0.10.1 installed via deb short of creating the package myself? everything in hoary seems to not be updated now that its been released. | 06:41 |
Nexus | i could go back on linuxcult......"site i belong to".......you should join.....honestly ..BEST site regarding linux questions EVER | 06:41 |
Nexus | its a great site | 06:41 |
Nexus | check it out www.linuxcult.com | 06:41 |
mrmanic | Furic: you might see if 10.1 is on packages.debian.org | 06:43 |
mrmanic | Furic: the dependencies might be messed, though. | 06:43 |
Furic | is it save to use debian packages in ubuntu? | 06:43 |
Nexus | yes it is | 06:43 |
Nexus | i do it all the time | 06:43 |
Nexus | works fine with me | 06:43 |
Nexus | soem packages wont work though | 06:44 |
mrmanic | seems worth a try for a minor point release, though. | 06:44 |
Nexus | man.....so can anybody suggest a good chat client besieds kopete (gay) and aMSN | 06:45 |
Nexus | i have gaim but the stupid SSL is holdin me back | 06:45 |
Nexus | i cant find any info on how to get that installed | 06:45 |
Nexus | people arent to talkative in here | 06:47 |
Nexus | btw "first time in here" | 06:47 |
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Furic | "kopete (gay)" - didn't realize it had dexual preferences | 06:48 |
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mrmanic | oh | 07:12 |
mrmanic | too bad | 07:12 |
mrmanic | I wish people would stick around after they ask questions | 07:12 |
mrmanic | I probably would have said "bitlbee + konversation" | 07:13 |
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Tm_T | mrmanic|sleep: bitlbee + irssi ;) | 07:22 |
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mrmanic|sleep | not bad | 07:22 |
mrmanic|sleep | will irssi beep for me when I get a /msg? | 07:22 |
Tm_T | if you set it so | 07:22 |
mrmanic|sleep | hmm | 07:23 |
mrmanic|sleep | I wonder if I could get used to irssi | 07:23 |
Tm_T | muhaha | 07:23 |
mrmanic|sleep | It would definitely make me more elite :) | 07:23 |
Tm_T | eh, how? | 07:24 |
Tm_T | elite? | 07:24 |
Tm_T | wtf | 07:24 |
mrmanic|sleep | yeah | 07:24 |
mrmanic|sleep | elite | 07:24 |
mrmanic|sleep | irssi > konversation | 07:24 |
Tm_T | yes, but using irssi doesn't make "elite" | 07:25 |
mrmanic|sleep | b/c I could use it on one of my hundred thousand shells from compromised boxes. | 07:25 |
mrmanic|sleep | which I used to destroy my IRC enemies | 07:25 |
mrmanic|sleep | (who are obviously less elite than I am) | 07:25 |
Tm_T | wtf elite | 07:25 |
mrmanic|sleep | l33t | 07:25 |
Tm_T | ok, you're cs generation :/ | 07:26 |
mrmanic|sleep | :? | 07:26 |
mrmanic|sleep | cs generation? | 07:26 |
Tm_T | yes | 07:26 |
mrmanic|sleep | computer science? | 07:26 |
mrmanic|sleep | counterstrike? | 07:26 |
Tm_T | counterstrike | 07:26 |
mrmanic|sleep | I never played that. | 07:26 |
Tm_T | me neither | 07:26 |
Tm_T | but thats not the point | 07:26 |
Tm_T | what you mean by elite in this context? | 07:27 |
mrmanic|sleep | oh | 07:27 |
mrmanic|sleep | pretty much exactly that. | 07:27 |
Tm_T | eh, ok, I don't get it | 07:28 |
mrmanic|sleep | the stereotypical 1337 script kiddie with his 50 compromised shells waging IRC warfare and splitting networks and causing general havoc. | 07:28 |
Tm_T | ... | 07:28 |
Tm_T | shortly, kid | 07:28 |
mrmanic|sleep | ? | 07:28 |
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mrmanic|sleep | shortly like as soon as I get done installing irssi? | 07:29 |
mrmanic|sleep | I just know I'll be elite then. When do I get my 50 compromised shells? | 07:29 |
mrmanic|sleep | do they come on install or does someone DCC them to me? | 07:29 |
_phate_ | How do I get the desktop icons? | 07:29 |
mrmanic|sleep | ;) | 07:29 |
_phate_ | They aren't there | 07:29 |
Tm_T | phuoh | 07:29 |
mrmanic|sleep | _phate_: I don't think desktop icons ship with kubuntu by default | 07:30 |
mrmanic|sleep | _phate_: which ones are you talking about? | 07:30 |
mrmanic|sleep | Tm_T: I'm joking...sorry to string you along. | 07:30 |
Tm_T | _phate_: rightclick on desk -> conf -> behaviour -> | 07:30 |
mrmanic|sleep | _phate_: are you talking about device icons? | 07:30 |
Tm_T | mrmanic|sleep: I just hate "elite" and other "kid" stuff, sorry | 07:30 |
mrmanic|sleep | I do too, Tm_T | 07:30 |
mrmanic|sleep | Tm_T: I find it pretty ridiculous. | 07:31 |
Tm_T | like "lol" | 07:31 |
Tm_T | no shit =) | 07:31 |
mrmanic|sleep | What gets me is when people say "lol" when they're in the next room from me and OBVIOUSLY not laughing out loud. | 07:31 |
mrmanic|sleep | liars | 07:31 |
_phate_ | mrmanic|sleep: I'm talking about like the home folder and the my computer icon | 07:31 |
_phate_ | Tm_T: then what? | 07:32 |
Tm_T | _phate_: just check your settings ;) | 07:32 |
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rkw | hello | 07:33 |
_phate_ | well the box that says "Show Icons on desktop" is checked but there aren't any. | 07:33 |
mrmanic|sleep | _phate_: you might be able to drag from the k menu. | 07:33 |
mrmanic|sleep | I don't know what your k menu looks like | 07:33 |
rkw | anyone know why i cant mount my xp partition in linux? | 07:33 |
mrmanic|sleep | rkw: probably permissions. | 07:33 |
mrmanic|sleep | rkw: either that or it's NTFS, but you should be able to mount NTFS readonly, at the very least | 07:34 |
rkw | pops up a message that it cant fins a file or something | 07:34 |
mrmanic|sleep | what's the exact message? | 07:34 |
rkw | i can mount it in other distros ive tried | 07:34 |
rkw | cant find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab | 07:35 |
mrmanic|sleep | so you have to add /dev/hdc1 to /etc/fstab | 07:36 |
rkw | ok.... | 07:36 |
rkw | do you know how i do that? | 07:36 |
mrmanic|sleep | with the user option, I think, so that a user can mount it | 07:36 |
rkw | oh | 07:36 |
mrmanic|sleep | oh | 07:38 |
mrmanic|sleep | haha | 07:38 |
mrmanic|sleep | sorry | 07:38 |
mrmanic|sleep | that wasn't an explanation of how to add /dev/hdc1 to /etc/fstab | 07:38 |
_phate_ | Here is a pic of my desktop: http://binarygrind.com/files/k_desk.png | 07:38 |
_phate_ | I'm missing the icons from the left had side and I would kinda like them | 07:39 |
mrmanic|sleep | So put them there | 07:39 |
mrmanic|sleep | is there a home icon anywhere on your computer? | 07:39 |
_phate_ | how? Any why where they removed in the first place? | 07:39 |
mrmanic|sleep | in the start menu or something? | 07:39 |
mrmanic|sleep | were they ever there? | 07:40 |
mrmanic|sleep | I don't think the distribution ships with desktop icons | 07:40 |
Tm_T | _phate_: icons? who needs them ;) http://xob.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo_037.png | 07:40 |
_phate_ | In other distros they are but not in kubuntu for some stupid reason | 07:40 |
_phate_ | Tm_T: I perfer them | 07:41 |
Tm_T | :/ | 07:41 |
Tm_T | why? | 07:41 |
_phate_ | because I do, make me feel at home (no pun intended) | 07:42 |
Tm_T | =) | 07:42 |
rkw | ok now i cant figure out how to save Fstab | 07:42 |
rkw | due to permissions | 07:42 |
mrmanic|sleep | you have to edit it as root | 07:42 |
Tm_T | rkw: what editor | 07:42 |
Tm_T | rkw: ah, you should edit it as root | 07:42 |
rkw | vi | 07:42 |
mrmanic|sleep | sudo vi /etc/fstab | 07:43 |
rkw | ah ok | 07:43 |
Tm_T | obviously | 07:43 |
rkw | thanks | 07:43 |
mrmanic|sleep | and then :wq to write and quit | 07:43 |
mrmanic|sleep | :) | 07:43 |
rkw | im used to -su | 07:43 |
rkw | :) | 07:43 |
Tm_T | I use rootshell ;p | 07:43 |
mrmanic|sleep | I use kwrite | 07:44 |
mrmanic|sleep | but I pretty much always sudo | 07:44 |
rkw | how do use those with the sudo command? | 07:44 |
mrmanic|sleep | sudo kwrite /etc/fstab | 07:44 |
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mrmanic|sleep | you get some weird permissions issues, but nothing fatal | 07:44 |
mrmanic|sleep | I like konversation | 07:44 |
mrmanic|sleep | that's what I use | 07:45 |
rkw | BAH now im just getting more errors | 07:46 |
_phate_ | so is there no way to put the icons back without manually making links? in Gnome I just have to click three boxes, this is just plain stupid... :( | 07:47 |
mrmanic|sleep | _phate_: You could get someone to send you their Home.desktop files and whatever else you need. | 07:47 |
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mrmanic|sleep | or copy them from another computer and customize. | 07:47 |
KaiL_ | _phate_: drag&drop from menu and/or panel might work | 07:48 |
mrmanic|sleep | it does | 07:49 |
mrmanic|sleep | but there's no home icon in the menu that i see | 07:49 |
KaiL_ | dnd from konq? (can't test, as konq is deadly broken in breezy) | 07:50 |
mrmanic|sleep | the home icon is kind of a pain. | 07:50 |
mrmanic|sleep | but it's easy | 07:51 |
mrmanic|sleep | just make a shortcut to an application | 07:51 |
mrmanic|sleep | and make the application kfmclient openProfile filemanagement | 07:51 |
KaiL_ | bad, that the "system"-Menu doesn't support DnD :( | 07:51 |
Tm_T | haha | 07:51 |
rkw | are there any other distros like this? | 07:52 |
KaiL_ | rkw: like what? | 07:52 |
rkw | well ive tried red hat, mandrake, suse, ect but none that autoinstalls everythink like this one (kubuntu) | 07:53 |
KaiL_ | that's why so many people loke (k)ubuntu :) | 07:53 |
KaiL_ | love.. | 07:53 |
rkw | heh | 07:54 |
KaiL_ | and also why some hate it (the "I have Linux, I am god"-fraction) | 07:54 |
rkw | yea | 07:54 |
rkw | lol | 07:54 |
rkw | well if i could get it to mount my windows partition i would love it | 07:54 |
mrmanic|sleep | rkw | 07:55 |
mrmanic|sleep | 1 sec | 07:55 |
rkw | k | 07:55 |
KaiL_ | /dev/hda1 /media/windows_c vfat auto,users,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0 | 07:55 |
KaiL_ | /dev/hda1 /media/windows_c ntfs auto,ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0 | 07:56 |
mrmanic|sleep | yeah, like that. | 07:56 |
mrmanic|sleep | I was just on my way to doing that. | 07:56 |
mrmanic|sleep | KaiL_: don't you need the "user" option to make it user-mountable? | 07:56 |
KaiL_ | mrmanic|sleep: that's automatic mounting | 07:56 |
KaiL_ | why mount internal partitions manually? | 07:57 |
rkw | thank you :) | 07:57 |
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mrmanic|sleep | KaiL_: good point! | 07:58 |
mrmanic|sleep | <-- BAKA! | 07:58 |
mrmanic|sleep | good grief....it's so bedtime | 07:59 |
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rkw | sweet i got it working | 08:07 |
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rkw | NOW i love this OS | 08:08 |
KaiL_ | I hope, this will be automated until breezy becomes final | 08:08 |
rkw | breezy? | 08:08 |
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KaiL_ | next ubuntu release, planned for October 2005 | 08:09 |
rkw | sweet | 08:10 |
jsgotangco | hello! does anyone here know who did KUDOS? | 08:10 |
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dewey | say does kubuntu have kdiskfree in it for a download? | 08:13 |
KaiL_ | "kdf"... | 08:14 |
dewey | KaiL_: where is kdf package? | 08:15 |
KaiL_ | you need to enable universe in /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:15 |
dewey | ok | 08:16 |
rkw | anyone know how to get wireless cards working that were not autodetected? | 08:16 |
KaiL_ | rkw: depends on the chip | 08:16 |
rkw | built into a dell laptop | 08:17 |
KaiL_ | look at lspci output | 08:17 |
rkw | i have no idea what that is | 08:18 |
KaiL_ | or easier: kmenu -> system -> info center | 08:18 |
KaiL_ | there select "PCI" and search for some "Network Adapter" | 08:18 |
KaiL_ | ...or "network controller"? | 08:19 |
KaiL_ | hmm, no WLAN here ;) | 08:19 |
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rkw | anyone know where i can get ndiswrapper? | 08:20 |
KaiL_ | you only need to install ndiswrapper-utils. | 08:21 |
KaiL_ | the module already comes with the hoary kernel :) | 08:21 |
rkw | how do i get that installed? | 08:21 |
KaiL_ | .....and I hope for you, it's no Broadcom-Chip | 08:21 |
KaiL_ | system -> kynaptic | 08:21 |
rkw | my luck it prolly is | 08:21 |
KaiL_ | you should find out the chip first | 08:22 |
rkw | i still dont see it | 08:22 |
rkw | looking in networking | 08:22 |
KaiL_ | at least for Broadcom and RaLink (2 of the most common ones) installing the 2.6.12-pre kernel from breezy is the easiest solution :) | 08:22 |
KaiL_ | look in PCI | 08:23 |
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KaiL_ | in networking you only see the configured devices | 08:23 |
rkw | yup broadcom | 08:24 |
KaiL_ | as always, the worst you can imagine *g* | 08:24 |
rkw | crap | 08:25 |
rkw | id almost just buy another card | 08:25 |
KaiL_ | Broadcom-Chips need an newer ndiswrapper than shipped with hoary | 08:26 |
KaiL_ | of coz exactly 1 version newer (what else?) | 08:26 |
rkw | lol | 08:26 |
rkw | i cant even find the option to install ndiswrapper | 08:26 |
KaiL_ | there's a search option | 08:28 |
KaiL_ | but as said, installing that version doesn't help. so here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Installation | 08:28 |
KaiL_ | you need to install the kernel headers before. "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" in a console. | 08:29 |
KaiL_ | after that the "Prerequisites" step is done ;) | 08:30 |
KaiL_ | uhm.... if you could download ndiswrapper currently, that is.... *grr* | 08:31 |
rkw | heh found a walkthrough on it | 08:36 |
rkw | but,,, i cant do anything cause the server is down | 08:37 |
KaiL_ | ...murphy....:) | 08:38 |
KaiL_ | same problem, why experienced users always have intel WLAN and newbies boardcom *g* | 08:39 |
KaiL_ | (the first works out of the box) | 08:39 |
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rkw | ok ive got another wireless card witl linux drivers,,, filename ends in .gz,, do you know how i install them? | 08:52 |
rkw | anyone? | 08:54 |
rkw | anyone? | 08:56 |
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Sputn1k | Sputn1k Im using suse and my were kde broken, clock, K menu button expired, and when i click on minimize button program just expire, how can i fix it? | 09:12 |
Tm_T | hmm | 09:16 |
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gromf | hello everybody ! | 09:25 |
Tm_T | hullo | 09:26 |
gromf | has somebody an acer 4150 laptop ? | 09:28 |
SlicerDicer | 67.160.114.35 for ut2004 join up have some fun :) | 09:35 |
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e-guru | does anybody know how to load a new DSDT table at boot time to ubuntu? | 10:30 |
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xxenon | wow, nice mess in breezy :) | 10:45 |
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Tm_T | haha | 10:47 |
Tm_T | xxenon: you suppose to expect it | 10:48 |
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e-guru | does anybody know how to compile DSDT table? iasl tool seems to be missing in kubuntu | 11:06 |
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Church_of_FoamY | anyone know how to delete directorys in cedega? | 11:14 |
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amu | e-guru: itt's bit difficult to get them, probably the best is, compile the sources from intel's page | 11:20 |
e-guru | amu: I dont get it, it comes by default distribution of FreeBSD, I am going to compile in freebsd and copy the result | 11:22 |
e-guru | amu: thanks, I will reboot | 11:23 |
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Tm_T | Riddell: bling bling | 11:30 |
Riddell | Tm_T: hi | 11:35 |
Tm_T | someone asked about http://ianmurdock.com/?p=167 | 11:37 |
Tm_T | question was "is ubuntu team answered already to murdock?" | 11:38 |
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SenorT | Hi there ppl | 11:51 |
SenorT | does kubuntu recognizes my two pseudo CPUs when using a hyperthreading P4 processor ? | 11:51 |
Riddell | SenorT: yes but you'll need to install linux-686-smp | 11:52 |
SenorT | Riddell, is that all ? | 11:52 |
Tm_T | I think yes | 11:53 |
SenorT | just apt-get install it ? sorry if that is a noobish question, i feared i have to recompile a kernel or sth like that | 11:53 |
Riddell | just a quick apt-get install and you're done | 11:54 |
Tm_T | SenorT: yes, apt it =) | 11:54 |
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Tm_T | Riddell: well, any thoughts about that blog? | 11:54 |
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Riddell | Tm_T: 100% compatible packages isn't going to happen because ubuntu not only wants the latest kde/gnome but also x, glibc and gcc | 11:55 |
Tm_T | hmm, but compatibility as far as possible? | 11:56 |
Riddell | the gcc transition work we're doing is going to make it a lot lot easier for debian to do it | 11:56 |
Tm_T | ok, thank you :) | 11:57 |
Riddell | the packages will be compatible as far as possible within that yes | 11:57 |
SenorT | anyone in here ever tried to compile wineX cvs ? | 11:59 |
Tm_T | SenorT: yes, last summer ;) | 12:01 |
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SenorT | Tm_T, i get some errors during the configure part, i dunno what to do now | 12:03 |
Tm_T | hmm, what kind of errors? | 12:03 |
SenorT | 4 warnings (dga extensions Xfree86 vmode, xvideo extensions Xcursor extensions xrenderquery extensions.. all not found) | 12:04 |
Tm_T | so install them | 12:04 |
SenorT | and 1 error: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a is present | 12:04 |
SenorT | "..this prevents linking to opengl. delete the file and restart configure" | 12:05 |
SenorT | shall i delete it really ? | 12:05 |
SenorT | and i dunno what packages i have to apt-get install to get rid of the warnings | 12:06 |
Tm_T | "apt-cache search foo" | 12:06 |
Tm_T | you can search packages, you know ;) | 12:06 |
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SenorT | i found nothing when i searched for vmode (warning: xfree86 vmode extensions not found) | 12:09 |
SenorT | oh | 12:09 |
SenorT | i found kdegraphics, but this is already installed | 12:09 |
SenorT | uff, if i install the dev packages, it goes further | 12:14 |
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SenorT | hi rodolfo | 12:17 |
rodolfo | hi | 12:17 |
othernoob | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=5578003266 lol | 12:18 |
rodolfo | I have a problem with the setting of the resolution of my graphics card. it looks like it isn't read properly by xorg | 12:20 |
SenorT | i also had these problems | 12:26 |
SenorT | what isnt working? | 12:27 |
SenorT | cant u set the correct resolution ? or the frequency ? | 12:27 |
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rodolfo | I had to change all the font sizes, because suddenly the characters were smaller, but I didn't change the resolution, it has always been 1280x1024 | 12:42 |
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Kleggas | when I use another loginmanager than kdm I can't run all kde apps that I want. kopete wont start at all, and kwrite will start after a very long time of idleing trying to connect to dcopserver. how do I fix this? | 12:57 |
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SenorT | whats the best tool for ripping audio cds and converting them to... ogg or mp3 ? | 01:22 |
Riddell | SenorT: audiocd:/ | 01:24 |
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Riddell | there's also kaudiocreator | 01:25 |
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mikl | Breezy kubuntu - still going strong ;) | 01:37 |
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Tm_T | mikl: good for you ;) | 01:58 |
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pointwood | I have a problem with Firefox and Sun's Java | 02:10 |
pointwood | testing it with http://gemal.dk/browserspy/java.html | 02:10 |
pointwood | it says java is enabled and supported | 02:10 |
pointwood | but it doesn't load the applets below :( | 02:11 |
hussam | Since Hoary has gnumeric 1.4.2, I rebuilt 1.4.3 from debian sources. YAY. This is the first time I rebuild/backport a package. | 02:16 |
hussam | lol | 02:16 |
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hussam | how do I make a .deb package from source.tar.gz ? | 04:00 |
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Riddell | hussam: has it already been made into a debian p | 04:02 |
Riddell | hussam: has it already been made into a debian package and you're recompiling? | 04:02 |
Riddell | or is this making a package from scratch | 04:02 |
hussam | Riddell: first package gnumeric worked, because I used the source from debian repositories to rebuild | 04:03 |
hussam | Riddell: I tried the same with konversation 0.17 but it didn't work | 04:04 |
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hussam | I did apt-get source gnumeric and rebuilt. It worked perfectly | 04:05 |
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hussam | but I can't get konversation 0.17 to rebuild | 04:05 |
SenorT | how can i add a user to a group ? | 04:06 |
SenorT | hi btw | 04:06 |
hussam | SenorT: sudo adduser <username> <group> | 04:06 |
SenorT | thx | 04:06 |
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hussam | Riddell: hoary shipped with konversation 0.16 and I wanted to see what changes went into 0.17 | 04:08 |
NothingButYou | maybe konversation 0.17 isn't in the repo? | 04:10 |
hussam | NothingButYou: it is in debian | 04:11 |
hussam | NothingButYou: I'm getting this error: | 04:11 |
hussam | tering directory `/home/hussam/Packages/konversation-0.17' | 04:11 |
hussam | make[1] : *** No rule to make target `reverse-config'. Stop. | 04:11 |
hussam | make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/hussam/Packages/konversation-0.17' | 04:11 |
NothingButYou | so there can be something wrong with the source.. | 04:12 |
Riddell | hussam: you need a newer version of cdbs | 04:12 |
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Riddell | it should build on breezy | 04:12 |
NothingButYou | or that :P | 04:12 |
hussam | Riddell: I modified the /debian/control for the cdbs | 04:13 |
hussam | I'll try extracting the source and I'll do ./configure and make | 04:13 |
hussam | I did ./configure and make, it's compiling fine | 04:15 |
Tm_T | looks like unsermake doesn't compile everything | 04:15 |
hussam | Riddell: it compiled fined with ./configure and make | 04:16 |
Riddell | Tm_T: what doesn't it compile | 04:18 |
hussam | Riddell: compiling from source.gz worked. Is there anyway I can make the .deb from just source.gz ? | 04:19 |
Riddell | hussam: nope | 04:19 |
Riddell | but make install will install it for you | 04:20 |
hussam | Riddell: i know but then I'll have two versions at once. | 04:20 |
NothingButYou | why doesn't he do a "make install PREFIX=/anywhere" and then make a package | 04:20 |
Riddell | if you install into /usr it'll overwrite the old one | 04:21 |
NothingButYou | wasn't there a tool to make a package? :) | 04:22 |
hussam | Riddell: where is the old binary installed? | 04:23 |
NothingButYou | in /usr | 04:23 |
hussam | I found it. the executable is in /usr/bin | 04:24 |
NothingButYou | "apt-get remove konversation", then "make install" if you want it that way. Then if you want the old version "make uninstall" and "apt-get install konversation" | 04:25 |
hussam | so I should "make install what" to overwrite it? | 04:25 |
SenorT | is it possible (for a noob) to "convert" my kubuntu installation from the given reiserfs to reiser4 ? | 04:26 |
NothingButYou | hussam: you should do just "make install" Also you should have made "./configure --prefix=/usr" | 04:26 |
NothingButYou | to install it in /usr | 04:26 |
hussam | oh | 04:26 |
hussam | Ok I see | 04:27 |
NothingButYou | if you haven't "prefix=/usr" "make clean" and do it again , then "make" and "make install" :):) | 04:27 |
hussam | "./configure --prefix=/usr" will place the binary in /usr/bin ? | 04:28 |
NothingButYou | yes | 04:28 |
hussam | ok thanks buddy | 04:28 |
NothingButYou | NP .. ammm another thing | 04:28 |
NothingButYou | I think that removeing the old version is.... necessary sometimes | 04:29 |
NothingButYou | :) | 04:29 |
NothingButYou | to avoid sh*ts :) | 04:29 |
NothingButYou | have fun | 04:29 |
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hussam | if I remove konversation, it'll remove kubuntu-desktop | 04:30 |
NothingButYou | well.. it is safe to do that | 04:31 |
NothingButYou | maybe.. | 04:31 |
NothingButYou | that's a metapackage AFAIK | 04:31 |
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dewey | say I want to mount my usb-zip drive and I can not seem to get it mounted? | 04:33 |
NothingButYou | <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> | 04:35 |
NothingButYou | <body>USB Iomega Zip 100</body> | 04:35 |
NothingButYou | argh.. | 04:35 |
NothingButYou | USB Iomega zip or something like this? | 04:35 |
NothingButYou | dewey: | 04:35 |
dewey | NothingButYou: yes | 04:37 |
NothingButYou | I can't help much with that but read this, it may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1855.html | 04:37 |
dewey | ok thanx | 04:37 |
NothingButYou | np | 04:37 |
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dewey | NothingButYou: dmesg shows my usb zip is there but it does auto mount it at boot-up! | 04:45 |
NothingButYou | dewey I haven't read that. I'm sorry. If anybody else can help... :\ | 04:46 |
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hussam | I found checkinstall it will make a .deb | 04:49 |
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firas | everytime I want to use my printer I have to go to kcontrol right click on my printer and click on "start printer" to use it | 05:11 |
firas | is there a way I could automate the process? | 05:11 |
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fissoz | everytime I want to use my printer I have to go to kcontrol right click on my printer and click on "start printer" to use it | 05:14 |
fissoz | is there a way I could automate the process? | 05:14 |
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NothingButYou | fissoz after you click on start and finish your job, later when you need to print again (you have not turned off the pc), is the printer working without Start? | 05:21 |
fissoz | NothingButYou: yes it is | 05:21 |
NothingButYou | and you're working with the CUPS system,right? | 05:21 |
fissoz | NothingButYou: yes i am | 05:22 |
NothingButYou | well my guess is that it is not started at boot ... | 05:23 |
NothingButYou | if you can modify the processes started at your runlevel so that cups is started (using KSysV or manually) , then I suppose the problem will be gone | 05:24 |
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NothingButYou | if you have no idea how to do that I will explain this on private | 05:24 |
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antrix | hello.. anyone around? | 05:37 |
shogouki | its not the good question :) | 05:38 |
antrix | :) | 05:38 |
antrix | just installed kubuntu-desktop .. checking out the apps :) | 05:38 |
antrix | one question.. why are the fonts for the GTK apps in KDE so small? They are fine when logged into Gnome. | 05:39 |
Tm_T | =) | 05:40 |
Tm_T | different configuration | 05:40 |
antrix | meaning? | 05:40 |
antrix | Logged in as the same user.. don't gtk apps pick up settings from .gtk* or .gnome* | 05:42 |
Tm_T | check font settings from gtk theme switcher | 05:43 |
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antrix | umm... is that an application? :) can't find it in menus.. | 05:45 |
antrix | tabbing in bash on gt* - nothing there either | 05:45 |
Tm_T | try apt-cache search | 05:45 |
antrix | ok | 05:45 |
antrix | fixed now! | 05:48 |
Tm_T | :) | 05:49 |
antrix | although a 12 point Bitstream Mono Sans looks different in GTK and in QT ... have to choose different point sizes to get some consistency... | 05:49 |
Tm_T | yup | 05:50 |
Tm_T | I use 7p mono font :p | 05:51 |
antrix | wow.. i'll go blind with that :) | 05:51 |
Tm_T | haha | 05:51 |
Tm_T | I even consider 6p fonts | 05:51 |
antrix | what's ur display size? | 05:52 |
Tm_T | 17" 1280x1024 | 05:53 |
Tm_T | I wan't 19" 1600x1200 | 05:53 |
antrix | i am on 15# 1024x768 :( | 05:54 |
antrix | just ran across this weird thing.... USB drive connected.. automounted by clicking on desktop icon | 05:55 |
antrix | access through media:/ in konqueror | 05:55 |
Tm_T | yes? | 05:56 |
antrix | now moving files across folders within that mounted drive is triggering | 05:56 |
antrix | a copy followed by a delete | 05:56 |
antrix | the file copy dialog says moving from file:///media/sda2/foo.bar to media:/sda2/folder/foo.bar | 05:57 |
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SenorT | anyone here using 7zip ? | 06:08 |
SenorT | archive format | 06:09 |
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antrix | is 7zip a different format? | 06:10 |
SenorT | yep | 06:10 |
SenorT | there is a kio slave available here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=17829 but i cannot install it | 06:10 |
SenorT | i dont even know what a kio slave is | 06:11 |
antrix | it's an abstraction KDE provides for IO devices | 06:11 |
antrix | so you can access cdrom drive thru cdrom:/ and removable media thru media:/ | 06:11 |
SenorT | when trying to ./configure i get a "Qt (>=Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found." and now i dont know what i am missing | 06:12 |
SenorT | libqt? libqt3? libqtsomething? i dont know what i should install | 06:13 |
psn | SenorT: libqt3-dev | 06:13 |
antrix | umm.. you'll have to install the libqt3-dev and libqt3-headers packages | 06:13 |
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SenorT | k, thanks | 06:15 |
antrix | SenorT: have you finished compiling 7zip itself? | 06:15 |
SenorT | i just apt-get installed it p7zip sth | 06:16 |
SenorT | on the page: "f you want to open a 7zip archive only double-clicking in it, you have to apply a patch to kdebase. This patch is already in kdebase CVS version (20041107), but not in kdebase 3.3.x." | 06:17 |
SenorT | which kde is used in kubuntu ? | 06:17 |
antrix | SenorT: 3.4 | 06:17 |
KaiL|Sheep | 3.4.0 in hoary, 3.4.1 in breezy | 06:17 |
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SenorT | so this "feature" is already included ? | 06:17 |
antrix | yes, should work after you compile the kio slave | 06:18 |
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SenorT | cool | 06:18 |
KaiL | as it has been in CVS in November 2004, it should be in latest release | 06:18 |
antrix | SenorT: btw, which repository had p7zip... i can't find it.. can't apt-get install | 06:19 |
SenorT | http://adn.diwi.org/debian/p7zip/ | 06:20 |
SenorT | there are debs | 06:20 |
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antrix | ok | 06:20 |
firasR | hi all | 06:20 |
SenorT | uff, now i get a "you ned kde headers" | 06:21 |
SenorT | "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!" | 06:22 |
SenorT | omg, this is like chinese for me | 06:22 |
firasR | anyone know if it's safe to uninstall gamin if i'm not using Gnome (i am using a few gtk apps though) ? | 06:22 |
firasR | it's always giving me problems when i try to unmount partitions | 06:22 |
SenorT | anyone know what i am missing now ? | 06:23 |
Tm_T | SenorT: tr to install kde dev packages | 06:23 |
SenorT | Tm_T, kde-devel <-- this one ? | 06:24 |
firasR | SenorT: do u have the kdelibs4-dev package installed ? | 06:24 |
SenorT | i dont know, how can i check if i have it installed ? | 06:24 |
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SenorT | omg another 40 MB, my harddrive gets fuller and fuller | 06:26 |
antrix | SenorT: how many 7zipped files do you deal with? Isn't the command line program enough for the occasional file :) | 06:27 |
firasR | SenorT: dpkg -s kdelibs4-dev | 06:27 |
SenorT | i have hundreds, i used it to back up my files in windows | 06:27 |
SenorT | very good compression | 06:27 |
firasR | SenorT: one of the lines should say "Status: install ok installed" | 06:28 |
SenorT | is there a way (sorry if thats a noobish question) to get rid of stuff that i just needed to compile stuff but not for running them ? | 06:28 |
firasR | SenorT: or u could just use Synaptic which is much easier :) | 06:28 |
firasR | SenorT: like these dev packages ? | 06:29 |
SenorT | for example, yes | 06:29 |
firasR | SenorT: just uninstall them afterwards: apt-get remove packagename | 06:29 |
SenorT | but how do i know if the applications need them for running ? | 06:30 |
antrix | SenorT: they don't need dev packages to run.. only during compile | 06:30 |
SenorT | so i can apt-get remove all *-dev packages i find ? | 06:30 |
SenorT | sudo apt-get remove *-dev --purge | 06:31 |
SenorT | (just guessed, dunno if that would work) | 06:31 |
antrix | SenorT: yes.. although don't sue me if it doesn't work out ;) | 06:32 |
SenorT | haha, k | 06:33 |
SenorT | it compiled | 06:33 |
SenorT | lets see | 06:33 |
SenorT | is there a "splitted-window" version of konqueror? | 06:33 |
SenorT | coz i dont like the way krusader works | 06:33 |
antrix | SenorT: on the status bar at the bottom.. right click | 06:34 |
firasR | SenorT: try a CTRL+T | 06:34 |
SenorT | ..a dream come true | 06:35 |
firasR | SenorT: sorry u said split, not tab, my bad | 06:35 |
SenorT | np | 06:35 |
SenorT | ok, the kio thingie compile, make and make install are done | 06:35 |
firasR | SenorT: u'r "sudo apt-get remove *-dev --purge" wouldn't work by the way | 06:35 |
SenorT | but clicking .7z files doesnt work | 06:35 |
firasR | SenorT: tried it | 06:35 |
SenorT | argh | 06:35 |
SenorT | hehe | 06:36 |
antrix | SenorT: accessing it via the kioslave works? | 06:36 |
SenorT | no, but ill try that now | 06:36 |
firasR | SenorT: u really should just use Synaptic, it'll make ur life easier | 06:37 |
SenorT | nope "protocoll not supported p7zip" | 06:37 |
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antrix | firasR: my thoughts exactly! | 06:37 |
antrix | SenorT: hmm.. maybe KDE needs a restart to pickup the new protocol? | 06:38 |
SenorT | ill try | 06:38 |
SenorT | cu in 5 minutes | 06:38 |
antrix | SenorT : wait | 06:38 |
firasR | SenorT: u could however use "dpkg -rP --simulate *-dev" | 06:38 |
SenorT | what ? | 06:39 |
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antrix | SenorT: KMenu>System>KInfoCenter | 06:39 |
firasR | SenorT: remove the --simulate option once ur sure that's what u wanna do | 06:39 |
SenorT | im still here | 06:39 |
SenorT | antrix, ok, im there | 06:39 |
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antrix | SenorT: Check protocols there - in KInfocenter | 06:39 |
antrix | SenorT: Then try logging back in and check there again :) | 06:40 |
SenorT | ok its not there | 06:40 |
SenorT | il logout/in now | 06:40 |
firasR | by the way, what's SenorT tryin' to get working ? | 06:41 |
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firasR | 7zip plugin for konqueror or somethin' ? | 06:42 |
SenorT | i loged in now | 06:43 |
SenorT | still no p7zip or 7zip | 06:43 |
SenorT | damn | 06:44 |
NothingButYou | does ARK open it? | 06:45 |
SenorT | it says 7za not in my path | 06:46 |
SenorT | YES | 06:46 |
SenorT | ARK opens it | 06:47 |
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x2peistu | anyone here ?? | 06:48 |
SenorT | ok ark can open it (only readable) but any ideas why the kio feature didnt work ? | 06:48 |
x2peistu | need some help | 06:48 |
NothingButYou | m... konqueror-plugins or addons.. | 06:48 |
NothingButYou | SenorT | 06:48 |
x2peistu | kubuntu won't let me login root | 06:49 |
NothingButYou | are zip files opened in konqueror? | 06:49 |
SenorT | yes | 06:49 |
NothingButYou | x2peistu: see the private | 06:49 |
NothingButYou | mmm then maybe it cannot.. don't know | 06:49 |
antrix | NothingButYou: SenorT was trying to install a kio_slave from kde-apps.org which offers 7zip format access | 06:50 |
antrix | like zip:/ | 06:50 |
dewey | so how do I get kaffeine to play encrypted dvds? | 06:51 |
antrix | SenorT: where's 7za installed? Did the command line version work for you? | 06:51 |
SenorT | yes | 06:51 |
SenorT | i can "7za -l file.7z" in bash | 06:52 |
antrix | then the 'not in path' error sounds strange | 06:52 |
firasR | dewey: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback | 06:52 |
antrix | maybe contact author? | 06:52 |
antrix | dewey: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#libdvdcss2 | 06:53 |
antrix | Tm_T: still here? | 06:54 |
SenorT | i copied the 7za from my home binary (where i compiled it yesterday) to /usr/loca/bin and now the error doesnt appear anymore | 06:54 |
dewey | thanx | 06:54 |
antrix | SenorT: ok.. well, congrats :) | 06:55 |
SenorT | ok, now i can open the files in ark, in konqueror would be .. nice | 06:55 |
antrix | SenorT: io slave didn't show up in Kinfocenter? | 06:56 |
SenorT | nope | 06:56 |
antrix | SenorT: should contact author then i suggest. | 06:58 |
SenorT | sth else: i want to clean up my kubuntu a bit, but when trying to remove kamera kynaptic wants to remove kdegraphics and kubuntu-destop | 06:58 |
NothingButYou | SenorT: they're just metapackages | 06:58 |
SenorT | i dont understand, i dont need camera support (thats what kamera is about) but why deinstalling kubuntu dekstop ? | 06:58 |
firasR | SenorT: it's a part of those metapackages | 06:58 |
SenorT | aha | 06:58 |
firasR | SenorT: makes for easier upgrades and installs | 06:59 |
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NothingButYou | _root: success I see :) | 07:01 |
_root | yeah ;) | 07:01 |
Tm_T | antrix: yup | 07:04 |
SenorT | argh, i now removed some packages with kynaptic. mplayer-386 was one of them | 07:04 |
antrix | Tm_T: no.. just wondering why Firefox didn't pick up the font settings... | 07:04 |
SenorT | sonce i use a p4 i tried to install mplayer-686 | 07:04 |
antrix | Tm_T: Then found setxdpi on Unofficial Kubuntu guide | 07:05 |
SenorT | but it wont let me | 07:05 |
antrix | Tm_T: now need to restart X to see if it fixes Firefox... | 07:05 |
firasR | SenorT: try mplayer-586 | 07:05 |
firasR | SenorT: mplayer-686 is a "transitional dummy package which can be safely removed | 07:06 |
firasR | Dummy package to upgrade to the new package mplayer-586" | 07:06 |
SenorT | missing dependencies: libavcodecscvs, libc6, libfontconfig libvorbis0a xmms | 07:06 |
antrix | is the marillat repo safe to use again for mplayer? | 07:06 |
SenorT | E: broken packages | 07:06 |
SenorT | antrix, works for my VDR machine in the living room | 07:07 |
SenorT | why doesn't apt resolve these dependencies ? | 07:07 |
antrix | marillat + ubuntu ? or marillat + debian? | 07:07 |
SenorT | antrix, my VDR is a somewhat woody machine, very stripped | 07:07 |
SenorT | when i tried to build a freevo box, i also used the marillat packages | 07:08 |
antrix | last I heard, Sid and marillat moved to some updated libraries which broke compatibility with Ubuntu | 07:08 |
SenorT | oh | 07:08 |
antrix | since then, i've disabled that repo and compiled my own mplayer | 07:08 |
SenorT | k | 07:08 |
SenorT | then ill do that too (i managed to compile mplayer under windows, so i got to manage that in kubuntu) | 07:09 |
antrix | compiling mplayer is the easiest thing.. as long as you have all the *-dev packages installed :) | 07:09 |
SenorT | aah, u mean the ones i removed 5 minutes ago ? | 07:10 |
antrix | probably not.. u removed kde-dev and qt-dev i guess.. not needed for mplayer | 07:11 |
antrix | in any case.. with luck. u might still be caching the downloaded debs in /var/cache/apt/ | 07:11 |
antrix | :) | 07:11 |
firasR | SenorT: unless u did an apt-get clean as well (which i hope u didn't do) | 07:12 |
SenorT | hmm, ./configure gave me: disabled: xvid, when i try to install libxvid4 i cant because libc6 is the wrong version | 07:12 |
firasR | :) | 07:12 |
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antrix | don't need xvid - ffmpeg decodes xvid quite nicely | 07:13 |
firasR | SenorT: what's wrong with the mplayer in multiverse ? | 07:13 |
SenorT | its held back for a reason i dont know | 07:13 |
antrix | SenorT: I suggest you disable marillat and apt-get update first | 07:13 |
SenorT | every time i apt-get-ed sth i got: held packages: mplayer-386 gstreamer... | 07:14 |
SenorT | ok sources.list updated, updating... | 07:15 |
SenorT | now apt-get upgrade ? | 07:15 |
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firasR | SenorT: search for mplayer-586 mark it for install and upgrade ur other packages as well | 07:16 |
SenorT | k | 07:16 |
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antrix | ok.. gotta go sleep. good luck SenorT! | 07:17 |
SenorT | thanks for your help | 07:17 |
SenorT | what is better: apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade ? | 07:17 |
antrix | no probs | 07:17 |
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SenorT | or what the difference ? | 07:18 |
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NothingButYou | dist-upgrade is better | 07:18 |
NothingButYou | the other may break some things generally | 07:19 |
SenorT | k, thank you | 07:20 |
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SenorT | Hi JensK nice to see german ppl here | 07:23 |
Tm_T | Riddell: I got some errors when I tried to compile fuse kernel module using unsermake | 07:23 |
Riddell | well yes, linux doesn't use the KDE build system | 07:24 |
Riddell | unsermake only works with KDE | 07:26 |
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Tm_T | yeah, I noticed =) | 07:28 |
Tm_T | I just wanted to try it | 07:29 |
Tm_T | if | 07:29 |
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mrmanic|sleep | haha | 07:35 |
mrmanic|sleep | Tm_T: that's classic | 07:35 |
mrmanic|sleep | :) | 07:35 |
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Tm_T | yeah, I like to test things | 07:36 |
spiral | hello | 07:38 |
spiral | hmmm, sorry... I've got a problem with kdevelop... When I run debug on a console C program, I don't see the console... | 07:38 |
spiral | but when I run it normally, I see it... | 07:38 |
spiral | do you know what misses ? | 07:38 |
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NothingButYou | I don't | 07:43 |
spiral | does anyone else have an idea ? | 07:43 |
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elkrammer | hi, anyone here uses kubuntu ppc? | 08:03 |
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dnakata | The enemy is weakened! | 08:31 |
dnakata | Jawol! | 08:31 |
Tm_T | eh? | 08:32 |
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philipacamaniac | Riddell: Is kynaptic in a CVS or SVN repository somewhere? | 09:09 |
Riddell | philipacamaniac: svn https://oops.kerneljanitors.org/repos/synaptic/branches/kynaptic/ | 09:13 |
philipacamaniac | Riddell: Great! thanks... | 09:16 |
Riddell | philipacamaniac: but hopefully we'll be using Kapture at some point instead of kynaptic | 09:18 |
philipacamaniac | Riddell: I'll take a look at Kapture. kynaptic needed a serious overhaul, but if you're moving to something else, I won't bother trying to fix it (kynaptic). | 09:19 |
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philipacamaniac | Riddell: is Kapture in a working state yet? (I found it in the KDE SVN) | 09:34 |
Riddell | philipacamaniac: I suspect it isn't | 09:35 |
Riddell | you probably need libapt-front as well first | 09:36 |
Riddell | which is somewhere on alioth | 09:36 |
philipacamaniac | Riddell: thanks | 09:36 |
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istari | hmm ... breezy is broken didnt thought so, after most of the kde packages got uninstalled :P | 09:40 |
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Tm_T | haha | 09:44 |
\sh | Riddell: r u running kde3.4.1? | 09:44 |
Tm_T | istari: you're surprised? | 09:44 |
istari | Tm_T: aehm ... not realy | 09:45 |
Tm_T | heh | 09:45 |
\sh | i need a test patient ;) for breezy and kde 3.4.1preSomething and a windowtheme ;) | 09:46 |
\sh | who wants to volunteer? ,-) | 09:46 |
Tm_T | haha | 09:46 |
\sh | come on guys, no risk no fun ;) | 09:47 |
Riddell | \sh: nope | 09:47 |
Riddell | \sh: but I have a chroot with it | 09:47 |
Tm_T | \sh: well... | 09:47 |
\sh | Riddell: so u can start apps and such things? nice... | 09:47 |
Tm_T | \sh: if you get pykde packages to me ;) | 09:47 |
Riddell | well, so I can make the packages :) | 09:47 |
philipacamaniac | \sh: I can run it on a vmware machine, but it'll take a few hours to be ready :) | 09:48 |
\sh | Tm_T: i would like to give it to you, when python-kde moved to universe ;) | 09:48 |
\sh | Riddell: the packages r already made ;) | 09:48 |
Tm_T | :/ | 09:49 |
\sh | Riddell: http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/?path=qinx | 09:49 |
\sh | Tm_T: I'm in start position... | 09:49 |
Tm_T | :) | 09:49 |
\sh | Tm_T: the source is patched and sources are likeley accepted, but the build-dep will be moved | 09:50 |
Tm_T | hmm, ok | 09:50 |
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x2peistu | how can i download Q3 arena? | 09:54 |
spiral | hmmm, could anyone tell me how I could install konversation & amarok in french under kubuntu hoary ? | 09:56 |
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Tm_T | hmh | 10:06 |
Tm_T | just install them | 10:06 |
Tm_T | they supposed to follow KDE locale settings | 10:06 |
shogouki | spiral: sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-fr | 10:07 |
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spiral | shogouki: I've allready got this, but konversation & amaroK aren't translated | 10:27 |
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shogouki | spiral: kopete est en franais chez moi, mai pass konversation | 10:31 |
istari | hmmm .. is there any timeplan for the g++ and dbus migration? | 10:32 |
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spiral | shogouki: ouaip, & amaroK ? | 10:33 |
shogouki | spiral: en anglais | 10:33 |
spiral | shogouki: ouaip, pareil pr moi... mais ma copine aime pas trp l'anglais | 10:34 |
kay | Hello, my wpasupplication in Breezy does not work after boot. Only manual /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant will associate it | 10:34 |
kay | How can this be? I see it running after boot... it should work | 10:34 |
philipacamaniac | How do we close bugs on Launchpad Malone (universe bugs)? | 10:35 |
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philipacamaniac | nevermind. figure it out. I HATE the malone interface. On the other hand, I love the Ubuntu bugzilla interface. | 10:39 |
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othernoob | anyone know of a math prog that will do polynomdivision and not only deliver the result but also show the way how it got the result ? | 10:42 |
kay | Can somebody look up for me (and tell me how to to that) which packages contain X11/extensions/render.h | 10:43 |
kay | ? | 10:43 |
philipacamaniac | packages.ubuntu.com | 10:45 |
philipacamaniac | libdevel/render-dev | 10:46 |
philipacamaniac | er, uh... render-dev | 10:47 |
kay | Thanks, I wanted to know that site for long, never found a link | 10:47 |
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kay | I am compiling KDE SVN and X11 migration hurt somewhat | 10:47 |
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StR | hi there... | 11:02 |
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SenorT | back | 11:03 |
SenorT | hmm, why does the performance monitor only show one cpu ? i have a p4 with HT enabled ? | 11:04 |
StR | If you speack spanish, pls join #kubuntu-es | 11:04 |
crimsun | SenorT: uname -a | 11:05 |
SenorT | Linux kubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri May 20 13:52:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux | 11:05 |
crimsun | two things, actually | 11:06 |
crimsun | 1) -386 doesn't support smp | 11:06 |
SenorT | oh | 11:06 |
crimsun | 2) the errata kernels disable HT by default for security reasons | 11:06 |
SenorT | so my system isnt using hyperthreading atm ? | 11:06 |
crimsun | no, because not only would it be disabled by default but the kernel doesn't have support for it compiled in | 11:07 |
StR | SenorT: nop | 11:07 |
SenorT | and how can i enable it ? | 11:07 |
crimsun | install -686-smp | 11:07 |
crimsun | then you need to think very carefully whether it's worth the security tradeoff | 11:08 |
StR | I remember something about getting the root password because of the HT | 11:08 |
StR | I read it in /. | 11:08 |
SenorT | sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp ? | 11:08 |
SenorT | i read that too | 11:08 |
crimsun | yes | 11:08 |
StR | that was not a problem for single user boxes | 11:09 |
crimsun | you'd have to boot with ht=on | 11:09 |
crimsun | I'd leave HT disabled | 11:09 |
SenorT | ht=on.. /boot/grub/menu.lst <- there ? | 11:09 |
crimsun | sure | 11:09 |
crimsun | remember, it's a rather glaring security hole | 11:10 |
StR | SenorT: yes, or @booting | 11:10 |
SenorT | erm.. @booting ? | 11:10 |
SenorT | i dont understand | 11:10 |
crimsun | when you boot | 11:10 |
crimsun | at the grub prompt | 11:10 |
SenorT | k, ill be back | 11:11 |
othernoob | crimsun why is ht a security risk ? | 11:15 |
StR | othernoob: because you can get root pass | 11:17 |
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othernoob | StR just because of hyperthreading ? | 11:18 |
x2peistu | i need some help with linux | 11:18 |
x2peistu | pls | 11:18 |
x2peistu | private me | 11:18 |
Riddell | \sh: qinx package works find in breezy | 11:19 |
osh | x2peistu: Or you could just ask your question here and someone will probably respond... :-) | 11:19 |
x2peistu | how can i get fonts for linux open office? | 11:20 |
Riddell | \sh: make sure it's up to date on the MOTU Candidate packages page and I'll take a closer look at it soon | 11:20 |
StR | othernoob: yes... | 11:20 |
StR | x2peistu: what?? | 11:20 |
osh | x2peistu: other than the ones already installed? | 11:20 |
othernoob | StR care to elaborate ? | 11:20 |
x2peistu | yeah | 11:20 |
x2peistu | ??? | 11:20 |
x2peistu | can you help me? | 11:21 |
StR | othernoob: it was posted in /. ut I think it is for *BSD and solaris... don't remember if it was demostrated to be a real problem in GNU/Linux | 11:21 |
x2peistu | StR?? | 11:21 |
philipacamaniac | I found a fix for the evil kcontrol Administrator Mode bug: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=189606 | 11:21 |
\sh | Riddell: thx...it's up2date on motunewpackages..ready for review :) | 11:21 |
osh | x2peistu: I have no idea. Probably there are fonts availible for download somewhere but I haven't done anything similar. I'm quite content with the fonts already installed. | 11:21 |
x2peistu | so there are.......... | 11:22 |
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crimsun | othernoob: it is possible to gain information that normally would not be available | 11:23 |
StR | x2peistu: the fonts that work in Windows also work in ubuntu | 11:23 |
crimsun | othernoob: if you're familiar with the concept of covert channels and passive timing attacks, it should ring a bell | 11:23 |
x2peistu | and how do i use them | 11:24 |
x2peistu | ??????? | 11:24 |
x2peistu | where do i copy them? | 11:24 |
StR | look in konsole | 11:24 |
StR | there is a way to install the fonts there... | 11:25 |
x2peistu | what comand? | 11:25 |
StR | in the control center... | 11:26 |
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StR | kontrol... don't remember what the command is.. | 11:26 |
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ahmeni | kcontrol | 11:27 |
ahmeni | under System Administration > Font Installer | 11:27 |
x2peistu | i am new ..........i don t know this things | 11:27 |
philipacamaniac | To install fonts system wide, you'll have to press the Administrator Button | 11:27 |
x2peistu | i am using Kubuntu for the first time | 11:27 |
x2peistu | today | 11:28 |
philipacamaniac | Administrator Mode, that is | 11:28 |
StR | x2peistu: the kontrol center where you configure everithing in kde | 11:28 |
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DefHandz | Anyone know where I can find the wxPython 2.6 binaries? | 11:29 |
DefHandz | The site doesn't have them for ANY Linux. | 11:29 |
x2peistu | in the konsole? | 11:29 |
StR | x2peistu: no... look @ the menu.... there is som kontrol center something... | 11:29 |
DefHandz | no.. | 11:30 |
DefHandz | Oh | 11:30 |
DefHandz | O_o | 11:30 |
x2peistu | found it | 11:30 |
StR | any1? what is the command to call the kontrol center? | 11:30 |
mrmanic | kcontrol | 11:30 |
x2peistu | what should i do next | 11:30 |
x2peistu | ? | 11:30 |
StR | x2peistu: look for somehting call fonts... at the end of the options tree | 11:31 |
dnakata | finally get to try kubuntu-amd64 | 11:31 |
dnakata | on my new Asus A8N-E AMD64 s939 system | 11:32 |
dnakata | good ol' Venice AMD64 3000+ :) | 11:32 |
ahmeni | Apollon says: "Please install the KDE multimedia-video package to enable the media player.", is there a package in apt that has what I need? | 11:32 |
dnakata | most importantly, the sporty ASUS NVidia 6600GT/TD128 PCI-Express it'll have on it | 11:32 |
StR | anyone with breezy? | 11:32 |
dnakata | ahmeni: kdemultimedia | 11:33 |
DefHandz | Anyone know where I can find the wxPython 2.6 binaries? | 11:33 |
dnakata | for kubuntu? | 11:33 |
StR | DefHandz: nope. why do you want to use wxPython? | 11:33 |
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DefHandz | Soulseek | 11:35 |
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SenorT | back | 11:35 |
SenorT | with 686 smp enabled | 11:35 |
SenorT | but confusing: kopete doesnt start anymore after reboot | 11:35 |
StR | SenorT: but dou you see 2 CPU now? | 11:36 |
SenorT | yep | 11:36 |
SenorT | kopete is strange | 11:37 |
StR | SenorT: did you upgrade it? | 11:37 |
SenorT | there was a process of kopete left that didnt want to close | 11:37 |
SenorT | now it restartet | 11:37 |
SenorT | yes | 11:37 |
SenorT | i apt-get dist-upgraded | 11:37 |
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SenorT | or what do u mean ? | 11:37 |
hans_ | when is start mplayer an error message says: new_face failed. maybe the font path is wrong. any suggestions? | 11:37 |
StR | SenorT: did you upgrade the kopete.. it was having some problems with MSN-password | 11:37 |
SenorT | hans, funny nick | 11:37 |
SenorT | how should i upgrade kopete ? | 11:38 |
StR | hans_: use kaffeine | 11:38 |
hans_ | SenorT yours too :P | 11:38 |
StR | SenorT: you are using hary, right? | 11:38 |
SenorT | yes | 11:38 |
StR | Senor: and when was the last time you did apt-get dist-upgrade? | 11:38 |
SenorT | 10 minutes ago | 11:39 |
StR | SenorT: ok.... | 11:39 |
StR | SenorT: and kopete is still not working? | 11:39 |
SenorT | it runs now | 11:39 |
SenorT | and behaves good atm | 11:39 |
StR | SenorT: so.. it is ok now... | 11:39 |
SenorT | kopete always caused an error when i shut the box down | 11:39 |
SenorT | yes StR , thanks | 11:39 |
StR | SenorT: ok | 11:40 |
StR | anyone here speaking spanish? | 11:40 |
SenorT | the guys is #kubuntu-es speak spanish, i think | 11:41 |
SenorT | someone invited hispanospeaking ppl to that channel | 11:41 |
StR | I created #kubuntu-es... but no1 joins the channel... | 11:41 |
StR | and the ppl in #ubuntu-es use gnome.... :P | 11:42 |
StR | XP | 11:42 |
SenorT | XP is my second choice in grub, :D | 11:42 |
StR | LOL!!! | 11:42 |
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StR | xP <-- face with closed eyes | 11:43 |
philipacamaniac | Riddell: I can't find much info on sudoers or sudo. Is it safe to add What does adding system_username to the file? | 11:43 |
StR | :P | 11:43 |
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SenorT | no i just have to find a superkaramba plugin that uses both cpus | 11:43 |
StR | philipacamaniac: what do you wnat to do with sudoers? | 11:43 |
philipacamaniac | sorry cut and paste problem | 11:43 |
philipacamaniac | I've added system_username to the end | 11:43 |
philipacamaniac | It seems to work alright, and now my KControl Administrator Mode works! | 11:44 |
philipacamaniac | but, I'm concerned about security | 11:44 |
hans_ | where can i "show" kaffeine the path to the codecs? | 11:44 |
StR | hans_: my keffenine works with the defalt conf with all my codecs... I didn't need to configure that | 11:45 |
hans_ | i cant play .bin files with kaffeine but with mplayer it works fine | 11:46 |
StR | .bin? | 11:46 |
hans_ | yes | 11:47 |
StR | hans_? what kind of files are .bin? | 11:47 |
Riddell | philipacamaniac: no idea what that would do, seems unlikely to me that it would do anything | 11:47 |
SenorT | .bin are cd image files | 11:47 |
hans_ | image files i think | 11:47 |
Riddell | philipacamaniac: it won't be unsafe | 11:47 |
SenorT | they are image files, normally together with .cue files | 11:47 |
philipacamaniac | Riddell: That's good. BTW, it really seems to have fixed the Administrator Mode bug. | 11:47 |
SenorT | cue/bin <-- so called cdrwin images | 11:47 |
SenorT | sth like .iso, only different.. | 11:48 |
StR | SenorT: I think .bin files are generic files.. like .dat | 11:48 |
Riddell | hmm | 11:48 |
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SenorT | yes, but if some1 says, " i want to play .bin files in xyz player" he normally means images of svcds or sth like that | 11:48 |
StR | they DO are cue/bin files... but I have seen install scripts called installer.bin.... so you understand you have to chmod +xxx them | 11:48 |
SenorT | sure | 11:49 |
StR | hans_: could you do a ... file file.bin? | 11:49 |
hans_ | say again... | 11:49 |
SenorT | do "file /path/to/file.bin" | 11:50 |
StR | like if your file is... someWeirdarchive.bin ... type: file someWeirdarchive.bin | 11:50 |
StR | hans_: what dou you get? | 11:51 |
SenorT | i found a .cue/.bin image on my hd, the bin file is "data" the cue file is "ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators" | 11:51 |
SenorT | "data" is very... special | 11:51 |
hans_ | sw3vcd2.bin.bin: data | 11:51 |
StR | SenorT: data is very generic.... | 11:51 |
SenorT | vcd.. its an image of a vcd | 11:51 |
StR | hmm.. it do is a vcd... | 11:52 |
SenorT | if i had to guess | 11:52 |
StR | hans_ mount it as a look device.. copy the biggest file and rename it to mpg.... | 11:52 |
SenorT | are there linux apps that can "mount" or read .bin images ? | 11:52 |
hans_ | thats a good question SenorT | 11:52 |
SenorT | AVSEQ1.DAT should be the biggest | 11:53 |
SenorT | but just copying is a bad idea if u want to burn it again | 11:53 |
StR | SenorT: try doing that... read the man about mounting a look device... | 11:53 |
SenorT | aha | 11:53 |
uniq | philipacamaniac: what's the output of 'id' for your user? (konsole) | 11:53 |
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philipacamaniac | uniq: looks like it did before, member of adm, dialout, cdrom, etc... all the group memberships are the same | 11:54 |
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uniq | philipacamaniac: and you are member of the admin group? | 11:55 |
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philipacamaniac | yes | 11:55 |
uniq | hmm. | 11:55 |
philipacamaniac | that is the default behaviour for Ubuntu | 11:56 |
uniq | and adding 'yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL' to sudoers fixes your admin mode problems? | 11:56 |
philipacamaniac | um, no, adding 'system_username ALL=(ALL) ALL' | 11:57 |
philipacamaniac | verbatim | 11:57 |
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