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Morandiranyone want some broken shards of kernel? Tm_T?12:05
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Tm_TMorandir: ?12:14
Morandirwe did a 2nd compile of the kernel... now I have kernel pieces all over the floor and in the rug...12:15
Morandirneed any?12:15
Tm_Thaha12:16
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JohninMTHello....I am having a problem connecting with apt and firefox(secure sites.   Konqueror works ok.  I am going through a dsl router. W 9 with firefox works ok....the last thing i had added last night was dillo.  I removed it today, but the same result12:21
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Morandir>_<12:34
Morandirsad to say, but I think its gentoo time..12:34
DiabloD3bad Morandir!12:36
Morandirno, not bad12:36
DiabloD3gentoo only leads to instability and retardation12:36
Morandirubuntu has exceeded our limits of aggravation12:36
DiabloD3have you asked for help?12:38
Morandir...12:38
Morandirmuch12:38
DiabloD3whats the problem?12:38
Morandirand scoured many forums12:38
Morandir2.6.11 kernel has exploded in to many shards of kernel panics and lack of evms for software raid12:38
DiabloD3dont use 2.6.1112:39
Morandir...12:39
Morandirbut I hard freeze if ever a screen resolution switch is made12:39
DiabloD3theres a reason why linux-386/686 doesnt point to 2.6.11 yet12:39
mrmanicI thought 2.6.11 was a total dev kernel12:39
DiabloD3mrmanic: nope, its 2.6.x.12:40
mrmanicand 2.6.12 was supposed to be a stable kernel12:40
DiabloD3mrmanic: nope.12:40
DiabloD3mrmanic: kernels dont use the even/odd minor version numbering system12:40
mrmanicpretty sure they do12:40
DiabloD3it uses 2.5/2.6 instead, where 2.5 is unstable and 2.6 is stable12:40
mrmaniclemme find the post.12:40
Morandirand we cant get video ati modules in unless we build the old kernel, but have no source for it12:40
mrmanicthey switched in like march12:40
mrmanicIIRC12:40
DiabloD3mrmanic: I've been compiling kernels longer than you've been using linux.12:40
DiabloD3mrmanic: so shush.12:40
DiabloD3Morandir: like I said, dont use 2.6.1112:41
Morandirbut I cant use 2.6.10 either12:41
DiabloD3Morandir: why not?12:41
Morandirvideo problems12:41
DiabloD3what video card?12:41
Morandirgot i386 binaries from ati12:41
Morandirati 8500dv AIW 12:42
DiabloD3wait, you're attempting to use the ati binary drivers?12:42
DiabloD3you need to apt-get those12:42
Morandirwe tried the apt-get, but there wasnt any bin's12:42
Morandirfor ati12:42
Morandirthat we saw12:42
DiabloD3grab linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 (or whichever kernel you use) and xorg-driver-fglrx12:42
Morandirxorg-driver-fglrx huh?12:43
DiabloD3yeah, thats the xorg half of the driver12:43
mrmanicDiabloD3: http://kerneltrap.org/node/479012:43
DiabloD3the kernel modules are in linux-restricted-modules12:43
mrmanicDiabloD3: but you may be right, I didn't see any resolution to the proposal12:44
DiabloD3mrmanic: yeah, linus decided not to do that12:44
DiabloD3mrmanic: and kept it as 2.6.11.x as 'semi-stable' 12:44
DiabloD3mrmanic: or rather, stable bits to be added to 2.6.1112:44
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DiabloD3mrmanic: true unstable is in linus's git tree12:45
mrmanicWell I didn't really figure anything truly unstable would even make it into even a minor point release.  12:46
Morandirhow should you choose between -386 and -686 kernels when running AMD 2100+ XP proc12:46
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mrmanicWhy is 2.6.12 so slow in finalizing?12:46
mrmanicI thought there was a -k7 kernel for that12:46
DiabloD3Morandir: you want -k712:47
DiabloD3mrmanic: because hes got a lot of crap to do12:47
DiabloD3mrmanic: that, and 2.6.x.y works well12:47
DiabloD3Morandir: theres -386, -686, -686-smp, -k7, and -k7-smp12:48
Morandiryes there is12:48
Morandirbut isnt k7 older procs?12:48
DiabloD3yours is a k7.12:48
Morandirk12:48
DiabloD3k7 is just the internal arch name of all athlons12:48
DiabloD3btw, Morandir, you may also want xorg-driver-fglrx-dev and fglrx-control12:48
MorandirI saw fglrx-control through kynaptic, but havent seen the xorg-driver-fglrx12:49
DiabloD3Morandir: you can just apt-get install them, you know12:49
DiabloD3most people dont use synaptic/kynaptic and choose to use the command line tools instead12:50
MorandirI usually do a mix12:53
Morandirkynaptic lets me see whats available12:53
DiabloD3yeah, but when you already have the package name, apt-get install away12:54
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DiabloD3Morandir: so, install them yet?12:55
JohninMTHello....I have been using kubuntu ...today I was having trouble accessing secure websites with firefox.  I was able to use Konqueror..I was unable to use apt-get..When I attempted to access irc.....it looked like I was bumping people out..just by entering a room.  I am afraid the sytem may have been compromised.   Could it be something else12:57
JohninMTI am actully using the 98 I dual boot with now12:58
DiabloD3JohninMT: well, you cant bump people off irc.12:59
DiabloD3JohninMT: without further descriptions, I cant fix your problem.12:59
JohninMTEverything was working fine...last night I added dillo01:00
DiabloD3woah01:00
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DiabloD3dillo is way outdated01:00
JohninMTone other wierd this is that the file menu "bookmarks"  was now bookmars" in konqueror01:00
JohninMTI removed it today.....since  it seemed like the last thing I did01:01
DiabloD3sounds like dillo did something wrong01:01
DiabloD3I wonder if something else happened01:01
DiabloD3like, as if your partition got scrambled01:01
JohninMTapt-get does not work anymore01:01
JohninMTthe other thing that was new was amoraK..I do not usually use it but started last night01:02
DiabloD3yeah, it seriously sounds like something went wrong01:02
DiabloD3you dont have desktop sharing enabled, do you?01:02
JohninMTis there a way to repair it without re-installing completely?01:03
MorandirDiabloD3: dl'n01:03
JohninMTno....I do not remember doing that..but I do have another machine with MEPIS that I have accessed from this one01:03
DiabloD3JohninMT: how do you do that?01:04
JohninMTcould something malicious have happened if sharing was enabled01:04
DiabloD3yeah, lots of stuff can go on once you enable stuff01:04
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JohninMTwell I go to konqueror from the taskbar..and choose network folders and then samba01:04
DiabloD3desktop sharing, telnet, samba, nfs are all bad01:04
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JohninMTit is odd that konqeror kept working01:04
DiabloD3you should only use them on closed networks01:05
JohninMTit still does01:05
JohninMTok01:05
DiabloD3konq works because its not firefox01:05
DiabloD3they implement their own methods to do stuff, and dont share01:05
JohninMTand the firefox is from mozilla not from apt01:05
JohninMToh i SEE01:05
JohninMToops01:05
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JohninMTand if the system is compromised the intruder would not want to disable konq becuz that is their way in?01:06
JohninMTwhat should I do01:06
DiabloD3JohninMT: well, it depends on what happened01:07
DiabloD3JohninMT: what folders have you shared?01:07
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JohninMTif there were any it would have been home.....the other thing is that I did automount and use the FAT32 partitions01:07
DiabloD3automount wont screw stuff up01:08
JohninMTok01:08
DiabloD3heres a hint, dont share your home01:08
DiabloD3ever01:08
JohninMTand it still works fine01:08
JohninMTok01:08
DiabloD3share a folder inside of your home thats set aside just for items you want to share01:08
JohninMTalso I did add repositories...01:08
JohninMTok01:08
DiabloD3which repos?01:08
JohninMTsome were from the unofficial guide01:09
JohninMTbut the last ones were so that I could update digikam01:09
DiabloD3could you tell me which ones?01:09
DiabloD3they're in /etc/apt/sources.list, btw01:09
JohninMTI do not remember..I have it written in a text file in Kubuntu...01:10
JohninMTlet me go back in there and come back....I did receive warnings in apt01:10
JohninMTI will be back01:10
JohninMTbtw...ty for the help01:10
DiabloD3okay01:10
JohninMTand I do love Kubuntu01:10
MorandirDiabloD3: couldnt get the xorg-drivers-fglrx01:12
DiabloD3Morandir: paste error messages01:12
Morandiracross computers?01:13
Morandir>_>01:13
DiabloD3well, I need something more than 'couldnt get' ;)01:14
MorandirI know01:14
Morandirgot the .10 kernel for -k701:14
DiabloD3brb01:17
transgressthose drivers worked fine for me with the -k7 kernel...01:17
DiabloD3back01:18
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Morandirokay01:23
JohninMTI will paste my sources from last backward01:24
JohninMThttp://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary ./01:24
JohninMThttp://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary01:24
JohninMThttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted01:25
JohninMThttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted01:25
DiabloD3<JohninMT> http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary ./01:25
DiabloD3<JohninMT> http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary01:25
DiabloD3those look broken01:25
JohninMTright now nothing can be updated..01:26
DiabloD3yeah because those sources are broken01:26
JohninMTone other thing...firefox appears to be a security things..01:26
DiabloD3remove them, and try updating again01:26
JohninMTsecure..places like My Yahoo and ebay do not open01:26
JohninMTok01:26
JohninMTwhat repairs can be made in recovery mode?01:27
DiabloD3all01:27
DiabloD3recovery mode just doesnt start X01:27
JohninMTI was thinking dillo can not go to secure sites..so is there some kind of relationship?01:28
DiabloD3dillo sucks01:28
DiabloD3and no, it can go to secure sites, but it just sucks hard01:28
JohninMTbut I did not see any dependencies come with it..and ist seemed to deteriorate01:29
JohninMTalmost like a dns error01:29
JohninMTbut of course windows uses the same dns and...here I am01:29
DiabloD3dunno what happened01:30
JohninMTWell thanks again for the help...I think I will do a do over tonight..and be a little careful with what I add ;)01:30
DiabloD3JohninMT: you _could_ just format your linux partition and reinstall ubuntu01:30
JohninMTI think I will do that01:30
JohninMT\it is probably the easiest thing to do01:30
JohninMTthanks again..talk to you later....01:30
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_phate_is there away to get the desktop Icons back?01:48
Tm_Thmm, how they disappeared?01:49
_phate_well they aren't their to begin with01:50
Tm_Tah01:50
Tm_Trightclick on desktop -> conf -> behaviour01:51
_phate_I would assume its because kubuntu k01:51
Tm_Teh01:51
_phate_whops01:51
_phate_sorry01:51
Tm_Tyeah, you can control virtually everything ;)01:52
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Tm_T_phate_: you got it?01:57
Tm_Thaha01:58
sirkback02:03
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Tm_TRiddell: 02:09
transgresshmm damn small linux is running nicely on 32 megs of ram02:11
jbn-ois there a good website or blog (perhaps a planet blog) to read for konqueror work?  I'm curious if any of CSS3 will be implemented soon, particularly border-radius.02:13
Tm_Tyup02:13
Tm_Terh, what's in new firefox package?02:14
transgresssecurity fixes probably02:14
Tm_Thmm02:14
Tm_Twhat now?02:14
transgressiuno... i barely use it since it's only on my laptop02:15
Tm_Thmm, I'll stick with 1.0.4 :p02:15
Tm_Tas long as it works02:15
Tm_Tah, so I hold mozilla-firefox packages :p02:15
Tm_Tand voil02:15
transgressi continue to wonder if they will ever take out gnome-support from the main firefox package...02:16
transgresson apt02:16
Tm_Toh02:17
transgressi won't use it on kubuntu until they do... i just stick with konq02:17
Tm_Thmm, I have no trouble with "gnome support" package02:18
transgressit's not that i would have trouble with it... i just don't want it02:20
Tm_Thmm02:21
transgressi don't need 50 megs of gnome on a kde only system... i have no urge to put gnome on this box... in fact i used to run ubuntu on it but didn't want it02:21
Tm_TI have lots of gtk and gnome stuff02:21
Tm_Tand why not02:21
transgressbecause i don't need it... i have gtk stuff... but not gnome stuff02:22
transgressdon't have any use for it... 02:22
Tm_Theh02:24
Tm_TI collect all trash =)02:24
Tm_T"hmm, interesting package, maybe I need it someday"02:24
transgressheh02:24
transgressi'm actually tempted to get it just for the gnome-vfs or whatever it is that does the automounting... it's the only way i can get my external hard drive to mount for some reason02:25
Tm_Tyeah, I must have too large HD, still muach free space :/02:26
Tm_T-a02:26
Tm_TI have too thick fingers :/02:27
transgressi have plenty of freespace02:27
transgressbut i'm also the type of person who runs deborphan on a regular basis to make sure i'm just not wasting space02:27
Tm_Thaha02:28
Tm_Tsome times I do so too02:28
Tm_Tbut some times I think I really don't need to :p02:28
transgressi wonder which is faster... fluxbox or windowmaker02:29
Tm_Thmm, haven't seen any difference02:30
Tm_Tmaybe wmaker is slightly02:30
Tm_TI like it =)02:30
transgressi like wmaker for the way it minimizes to icons02:30
transgressi wish i could do that in kde... instead of minimizing to the taskbar02:30
Tm_Tit's just fucking stupid that fedora doesn't have packages for wmaker really :/02:31
transgressit doesn't?  that sucks02:31
transgressa lot02:31
Tm_Tyou tell me =)02:31
transgressTm_T: you using the fedorafaq.org yum.conf?02:31
Tm_Thmm, dunno02:31
Tm_Tmaybe + lots of other stuff02:31
transgressi found most everything i needed with that yum.conf heh02:32
Tm_Tmost02:32
transgressbut i haven't used it in a while02:32
transgressplanning on putting fc4 on my lappy... thinking of putting the test3 on there to play with for a bit02:33
Tm_Tmy second desktop is running FC302:33
Tm_Tuses wmaker =)02:33
transgresshey what is the file i need to edit to change my default windowmanager?02:33
Tm_Tso I don't have wmaker-config thing or anything :/02:33
transgressi wanna go from flux to wmaker02:33
Tm_Thmm, good guestion =)02:33
Tm_Tdon't know really02:33
Tm_TI have always trouble with G/KDM02:34
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transgressah well then02:49
transgressit's not pretty but it doesn't need to be02:49
transgressjust nice and simple02:49
DiabloD3hrm.02:52
DiabloD3ubuntu kernels dont come with oss drivers built, do they?02:53
Tm_Teh?02:55
DiabloD3eh eh?02:56
Tm_Twell, I think I use oss atm02:56
DiabloD3you probably use alsa02:56
Tm_Thmm, amaroK uses osssink02:57
transgresswhy would you want oss?02:57
DiabloD3transgress: driver testing02:58
DiabloD3tm_T: doesnt mean you use oss02:58
DiabloD3tm_T: alsa can emulate oss02:58
Tm_Thmm02:59
Morandir>____________<02:59
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MorandirDIabloD3 >_<03:00
Tm_TDiabloD3: so test if it's there ;)03:00
DiabloD3heh03:01
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DiabloD3w00t03:22
DiabloD3I just checked03:22
DiabloD3its there03:22
Tm_Theh03:22
Tm_TI thought so03:22
DiabloD3Im tracking down a bug in the joystick driver for es137103:23
DiabloD3and I dont feel like building a new kernel03:23
crimsunhmm? you wouldn't build a module?03:26
DiabloD3you mean just the module? no03:26
DiabloD3I'd have to grab the ubuntufied version of the source03:26
DiabloD3and hop through all these steps and crap03:27
DiabloD3its easier to just build a whole new kernel03:27
crimsungameport, etc.?03:28
DiabloD3crimsun: erm, I dont understand your question03:28
DiabloD3gameport etc already exist03:28
DiabloD3es1371 cards have their own internal driver for the gameport03:28
crimsunbut are you using a Ubuntu kernel or your own?03:29
DiabloD3apparently alsa's is broken for atleast my card, and probably several too03:29
DiabloD3ubuntu kernel atm03:29
DiabloD3I havent gotten around to building my own kernel yet03:29
DiabloD3(its on my todo list... really!)03:29
crimsunyeah, es1371 is modularised, so you don't have to recompile everything03:30
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_sophieHi all I need help as a new user of kunbuntu (7 days now)03:32
transgressfar too much of your life story for my liking03:33
transgressbut anyways, what do you need?03:33
_sophieYour help would be appreciated: I need to install mplayer03:33
transgressenable multiverse and universe and then sudo apt-get install mplayer03:34
DiabloD3crimsun: which is why I checked to see if it was even built in the first place03:34
_sophieHow dp I install using apt-get I can<t find a package03:34
transgress_sophie: you enable universe and multiverse in your sources.list03:34
_sophietransgress: I<ll have a look now03:34
transgress_sophie: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:34
_sophiedeb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe03:35
_sophie# deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe03:35
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_sophietransgress: which one03:35
transgresswell it appears that the universe binaries are already enabled03:36
DiabloD3wahoo03:36
DiabloD3oss works03:36
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transgresscopy that line and paste it, then change the word universe to multiverse03:36
transgressthen save, and apt-get update03:36
DiabloD3transgress: thats a little excessive03:37
DiabloD3he could have just added the word multiverse after it03:37
_sophietransgress: Couldn't find package mplayer03:37
_sophietransgress: why change the word universe to multiverse03:38
transgressDiabloD3: true... i just like to keep things all on their own... otherwise i miss shit...03:38
transgress_sophie: because mplayer is in multiverse03:38
DiabloD3_sophie: ... so it adds the multiverse repo03:39
transgressdo what diablo said... just add multiverse to the end03:39
transgressand oh... RTFM i sent you03:39
DiabloD3transgress: see, Im the opposite, I prefer having main restricted universe multiverse all on one line so I dont miss shit03:39
_sophietransgress: tks now apt-get can actually be found by apt-get03:43
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SlicerDiceranybody down for playing UT2004?03:43
transgressi would, but i'm working03:44
SlicerDicer:/03:45
transgressand normally i would while i'm working, but i just found something oh so nice... someone didn't sign up for a new billing system... and somehow we have missed that he hasn't been billed for a fucking year03:46
_sophietransgress: I choose mplayer-586 but now I have some unmet depndencies libsvga and I can<t install thaht03:47
_sophietransgress: I thought apt-get would be simpler than the usual rpm dance on some opther distros03:48
transgressyou don't have marillat added do you?03:48
crimsun_sophie: you need to use only the debian-marillat testing repo along with ubuntu's multiverse03:48
transgressit is03:48
transgresssomeone should really put that in the wiki03:48
crimsun_sophie: then you need to tell aptitude specifically which version of mplayer-586 to install03:48
transgressbecause i know i've told a dozen people that already03:48
_sophietransgress: no marillat??\03:48
_sophiecrimsun: how03:49
crimsun_sophie: add it by editing /etc/apt/sources.list03:49
crimsun_sophie: please use http://pastebin.com instead of querying me03:50
crimsungah03:51
crimsun(you're still querying me)03:51
transgresshaha03:53
_sophiecrimsun: sorry and tks at the same time03:53
crimsun_sophie: still waiting on pastebin.com04:00
Tm_Teh, not funny04:00
Tm_Tkonqi crashes if I try to open rightclickmenu04:00
Tm_Thmm, I just wonder what I broke :p04:00
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jkeelhi all. would anyone like to comment on Kubuntu PPC? I'm thinking about installing it04:02
jkeelon a 12" Powerbook04:02
jkeelany issues/likes/dislikes?04:03
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vardhan_aptitude install kdesdk ===>   kdesdk: Depends: kspy (>= 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu5) but it is not installable04:04
vardhan_How can I install kdesdk i Hoary ?04:04
Tm_Thmm04:06
jkeelchannel isn't very active.. 04:06
Tm_Tno, we sleep in europe ;)04:07
Tm_Texcept me04:07
jkeel:)04:09
jkeelon the east coast of the US, it's 10:0004:09
jkeelwell, I think I'll take the Kubuntu plunge anyway...04:10
jkeelTm_T: do you use Kubuntu?04:10
_sophiecrimsun: http://pastebin.com/29049204:10
Tm_Tjkeel: sure04:11
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crimsun_sophie: what cpu?04:11
_sophiecrimsun: athlon04:11
_sophiecrimsun: athlon04:12
crimsun_sophie: sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu604:12
crimsun_sophie: make sure you have multiverse and debian-marillat's testing enabled04:12
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_sophie<div class="box"><center><b>deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main</b>04:14
_sophie  </center>04:14
_sophie  </div>04:14
_sophiedeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main04:14
_sophiecrimsun: you want me to add 04:14
crimsunyes, that.04:14
crimsunbut you should _not_ have stable or unstable listed04:14
Tm_Teh04:15
Tm_Twhy people do such pastes :/04:15
Tm_T" <div class="box"><center><b> "04:16
Tm_T"ok"04:16
_sophieTm_T: Sorry my fault04:18
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andrewskiwhere could i find the app settings for, say, kaudiocreator?04:19
transgressandrewski: check .kde04:20
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andrewskitransgress: ok, found them.  .kde/share/config/foo04:22
andrewskithanks.04:22
_sophiecrimsun: http://pastebin.com/29049604:23
_sophiecrimsun: have a look04:23
andrewskicrimsun: yet again, everywhere! :P04:23
crimsun_sophie: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin04:24
_sophiecrimsun: http://pastebin.com/29049704:25
crimsun_sophie: you're missing universe04:25
crimsun_sophie: you need deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe04:26
crimsunand deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe04:26
_sophiecrimsun: seems to be working now but still get the same pgp key error when doing update04:30
crimsun_sophie: did you follow wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary ?04:30
_sophiecrimsun: Nope I follwoed instructions on http://debian.video.free.fr/04:31
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LiquidAirhi04:31
crimsun_sophie: use my instructions on that wiki page04:31
LiquidAiri just finished the installation and it booted up into kde; but after rebooting it no longer boots up kde04:32
LiquidAirit starts up X but all i get is a black screen04:32
LiquidAirctrl+alt+backspace does not work04:33
LiquidAirwhich is strange because i saw no option to disable that in xorg.org04:33
LiquidAirmaybe it locked up?04:33
Tm_Thmm04:33
LiquidAirbut it did work the first time O_o04:33
Tm_Ttopic?04:33
LiquidAirhuh?04:34
_sophiecrimsun: thakns so much for your time but please see http://pastebin.com/29050104:35
Tm_TLiquidAir: try to add " deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main " into your sources.list04:36
Tm_Tthat shouldn't help though04:36
LiquidAirhmm..04:36
LiquidAirok i will but i'd like something that would help04:37
crimsun_sophie: you didn't follow my directions04:37
crimsun_sophie: what you're doing there is merging the archive key into root's keyring.04:37
crimsun_sophie: you don't want to do that; you want to merge it into apt-key's keyring04:37
Tm_TLiquidAir: try, dunno really04:39
_sophiecrimsun: but when I don't run has su it does not work04:39
_sophiecrimsun: gpg: can't open `/home/sophie/.gnupg/pubring.gpg'04:40
_sophiecrimsun: For some reason mplayer is working now I just need to install some codecs04:41
_sophiecrimsun: *windows codecs04:41
crimsun_sophie: w32codecs. The instructions are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:43
crimsun_sophie: please read wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary carefully04:43
crimsunbbl04:43
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Tm_Nuadahmm04:53
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DiabloD3hey Riddell 05:12
Tm_TDiabloD3: eh, I've got a problem05:28
DiabloD3damnit, why does everyone come to me >_<05:28
Tm_T=)05:29
DiabloD3I should start charging or some shit05:29
Tm_TI think this is something new and interesting05:29
Tm_T" dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) "05:30
Tm_Tetc05:30
DiabloD3I need more than that05:30
Tm_Tso, apt failed to install properly a package, but that app is running :p05:30
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Tm_Tand ofcourse dpkg says "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove knemo which isn't installed."05:32
Tm_Tfucking great05:32
DiabloD3maybe knemo isnt even installed05:32
Tm_Thmm, so why it's running?05:32
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Tm_Tand there's no [X]  to close it :p05:33
DiabloD3because you forgot to turn it off first?05:33
runelindis there a way to scan for removable media?  when I put in my dvd-rom in my laptop while the OS is running, it doesn't pick up that there is a new device05:33
Tm_TDiabloD3: I never started it myself05:33
DiabloD3tm_T: reinstall windows./05:33
Tm_T:p05:33
DiabloD3runelind: erm, thats usually done automatically05:33
transgressno one would know of a program that lets you minimize programs to an icon on the desktop ala windowmaker would you?05:33
DiabloD3transgress: .... windowmaker!05:34
runelindDiabloD3: it didn't, maybe it was just messed up that one time05:34
Tm_Tuah05:34
DiabloD3runelind: an icon should appear on your desktop05:34
transgressDiabloD3: i prefer to stick with kde... it's slightly... prettier05:35
transgressand it's menus are far easier to deal with05:35
DiabloD3heh05:35
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_sophiecrimsun: Everything is working noew tks05:36
crimsunnp05:40
_sophiecrimsun: Thanks again Ive got my mplayer back05:42
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Tm_Terrrorr05:43
_sophiecrimsun: now to get my java fix for azureus05:43
transgressjava is easy to get05:45
transgressif you read the wiki05:45
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dicrapionew to kubuntu and all was well but no longer have admin priviliges with normal user, found nothing in the FAQ05:49
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PepsAnyone here?06:07
Tm_Tyup06:07
PepsWhen I installed kubuntu hoary, an icon would  pop automatically when I insert a cdrom. Now ufter the update it does no happen. Any ideas how to restore it?06:08
Tm_TPeps: hmm, are you sure about your desktop settings?06:09
Pepswhat do you mean?06:09
Tm_Trightclick in desk -> conf -> behaviour06:10
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Pepsyou mean under "device icons?"06:10
Pepswow - did the trick!!!! thanks a bundle06:11
Tm_Tyup06:12
Tm_T=)06:12
Pepsbut why would it disapear. I also lost the trash icon on the menu bar ...06:12
Tm_Tdon't ask, I have my own problems atm :p06:13
Tm_TI lost one pic =)06:13
Pepssorry. Thanks for the help. Any idea why this is not in the control center. All the others are there?06:15
Pepssorry, it is there. NOw that i know where to look :( silly06:16
Tm_T=)06:16
Tm_TPeps: np, I do lost things way too often =)06:16
PepsWell, this is way better than RH 8.0. I am out of rpm hell at least06:17
Tm_Thaha, that's true =)06:18
Tm_Thave you tried amaroK yet?06:18
PepsI am too used to xmms06:19
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PepsThere is a new kernel 2.6.10-34.1. ANyone can tell me what it fixes and is it important to upgrade?06:28
Tm_Thmm, 34?06:31
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_mattcan sombody help me with somthing plz?06:32
Tm_Tyes?06:32
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_mattok i finally got gaim insatlled and it says somthing about SSL....so i did an update and a apt-get of it...well the apt get worked but then said package could not be found06:32
_mattim new with linux so yea...lol 06:33
Tm_Theh06:33
_matti googled SSL...and you need it for loggin in on MSN06:33
Tm_Tmaybe you need to add something to your sources.list06:33
_matthmmm lol i just got my source.list fixed .......it was really messed up06:33
_matthmmm no suggestions then???..........06:35
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Tm_Thttp://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/swmgmt.html06:36
Nexusok yea ive been there.......and thats how i got my source.list screwed up to begin with....:S06:37
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Tm_Teh :p06:39
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Nexusyep...06:40
Nexushmmmmmmmm all i need is the SSL library thingy i guess lol......but i have no idea how to install it or anything....wow ....06:40
Furicis there any way i can get kopete 0.10.1 installed via deb short of creating the package myself? everything in hoary seems to not be updated now that its been released.06:41
Nexusi could go back on linuxcult......"site i belong to".......you should join.....honestly ..BEST site regarding linux questions EVER 06:41
Nexusits a great site06:41
Nexuscheck it out www.linuxcult.com06:41
mrmanicFuric: you might see if 10.1 is on packages.debian.org06:43
mrmanicFuric: the dependencies might be messed, though.06:43
Furicis it save to use debian packages in ubuntu?06:43
Nexusyes it is06:43
Nexusi do it all the time06:43
Nexusworks fine with me06:43
Nexussoem packages wont work though06:44
mrmanicseems worth a try for a minor point release, though.06:44
Nexusman.....so can anybody suggest a good chat client besieds kopete (gay) and aMSN06:45
Nexusi have gaim but the stupid SSL is holdin me back06:45
Nexusi cant find any info on how to get that installed06:45
Nexuspeople arent to talkative in here06:47
Nexusbtw "first time in here"06:47
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Furic"kopete (gay)" - didn't realize it had dexual preferences06:48
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mrmanicoh07:12
mrmanictoo bad07:12
mrmanicI wish people would stick around after they ask questions07:12
mrmanicI probably would have said "bitlbee + konversation"07:13
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Tm_Tmrmanic|sleep: bitlbee + irssi ;)07:22
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mrmanic|sleepnot bad07:22
mrmanic|sleepwill irssi beep for me when I get a /msg?07:22
Tm_Tif you set it so07:22
mrmanic|sleephmm07:23
mrmanic|sleepI wonder if I could get used to irssi07:23
Tm_Tmuhaha07:23
mrmanic|sleepIt would definitely make me more elite :)07:23
Tm_Teh, how?07:24
Tm_Telite?07:24
Tm_Twtf07:24
mrmanic|sleepyeah07:24
mrmanic|sleepelite07:24
mrmanic|sleepirssi > konversation07:24
Tm_Tyes, but using irssi doesn't make "elite"07:25
mrmanic|sleepb/c I could use it on one of my hundred thousand shells from compromised boxes.07:25
mrmanic|sleepwhich I used to destroy my IRC enemies07:25
mrmanic|sleep(who are obviously less elite than I am)07:25
Tm_Twtf elite07:25
mrmanic|sleepl33t07:25
Tm_Tok, you're cs generation :/07:26
mrmanic|sleep:?07:26
mrmanic|sleepcs generation?07:26
Tm_Tyes07:26
mrmanic|sleepcomputer science?07:26
mrmanic|sleepcounterstrike?07:26
Tm_Tcounterstrike07:26
mrmanic|sleepI never played that.07:26
Tm_Tme neither07:26
Tm_Tbut thats not the point07:26
Tm_Twhat you mean by elite in this context?07:27
mrmanic|sleepoh07:27
mrmanic|sleeppretty much exactly that.07:27
Tm_Teh, ok, I don't get it07:28
mrmanic|sleepthe stereotypical 1337 script kiddie with his 50 compromised shells waging IRC warfare and splitting networks and causing general havoc.07:28
Tm_T...07:28
Tm_Tshortly, kid07:28
mrmanic|sleep?07:28
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mrmanic|sleepshortly like as soon as I get done installing irssi?07:29
mrmanic|sleepI just know I'll be elite then.  When do I get my 50 compromised shells?07:29
mrmanic|sleepdo they come on install or does someone DCC them to me?07:29
_phate_How do I get the desktop icons?07:29
mrmanic|sleep;)07:29
_phate_They aren't there07:29
Tm_Tphuoh07:29
mrmanic|sleep_phate_: I don't think desktop icons ship with kubuntu by default07:30
mrmanic|sleep_phate_: which ones are you talking about?07:30
mrmanic|sleepTm_T: I'm joking...sorry to string you along.07:30
Tm_T_phate_: rightclick on desk -> conf -> behaviour ->07:30
mrmanic|sleep_phate_: are you talking about device icons?07:30
Tm_Tmrmanic|sleep: I just hate "elite" and other "kid" stuff, sorry07:30
mrmanic|sleepI do too, Tm_T 07:30
mrmanic|sleepTm_T: I find it pretty ridiculous.07:31
Tm_Tlike "lol"07:31
Tm_Tno shit =)07:31
mrmanic|sleepWhat gets me is when people say "lol" when they're in the next room from me and OBVIOUSLY not laughing out loud.07:31
mrmanic|sleepliars07:31
_phate_mrmanic|sleep: I'm talking about like the home folder and the my computer icon07:31
_phate_Tm_T: then what?07:32
Tm_T_phate_: just check your settings ;)07:32
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rkwhello07:33
_phate_well the box that says "Show Icons on desktop" is checked but there aren't any.07:33
mrmanic|sleep_phate_: you might be able to drag from the k menu.07:33
mrmanic|sleepI don't know what your k menu looks like07:33
rkwanyone know why i cant mount my xp partition in linux?07:33
mrmanic|sleeprkw: probably permissions.07:33
mrmanic|sleeprkw: either that or it's NTFS, but you should be able to mount NTFS readonly, at the very least07:34
rkwpops up a message that it cant fins a file or something07:34
mrmanic|sleepwhat's the exact message?07:34
rkwi can mount it in other distros ive tried07:34
rkwcant find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab07:35
mrmanic|sleepso you have to add /dev/hdc1 to /etc/fstab07:36
rkwok....07:36
rkwdo you know how i do that?07:36
mrmanic|sleepwith the user option, I think, so that a user can mount it07:36
rkwoh07:36
mrmanic|sleepoh07:38
mrmanic|sleephaha07:38
mrmanic|sleepsorry07:38
mrmanic|sleepthat wasn't an explanation of how to add /dev/hdc1 to /etc/fstab07:38
_phate_Here is a pic of my desktop: http://binarygrind.com/files/k_desk.png07:38
_phate_I'm missing the icons from the left had side and I would kinda like them07:39
mrmanic|sleepSo put them there07:39
mrmanic|sleepis there a home icon anywhere on your computer?07:39
_phate_how? Any why where they removed in the first place?07:39
mrmanic|sleepin the start menu or something?07:39
mrmanic|sleepwere they ever there?07:40
mrmanic|sleepI don't think the distribution ships with desktop icons07:40
Tm_T_phate_: icons? who needs them ;) http://xob.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo_037.png07:40
_phate_In other distros they are but not in kubuntu for some stupid reason07:40
_phate_Tm_T: I perfer them07:41
Tm_T:/07:41
Tm_Twhy?07:41
_phate_because I do, make me feel at home (no pun intended)07:42
Tm_T=)07:42
rkwok now i cant figure out how to save Fstab07:42
rkwdue to permissions07:42
mrmanic|sleepyou have to edit it as root07:42
Tm_Trkw: what editor07:42
Tm_Trkw: ah, you should edit it as root07:42
rkwvi07:42
mrmanic|sleepsudo vi /etc/fstab07:43
rkwah ok07:43
Tm_Tobviously07:43
rkwthanks07:43
mrmanic|sleepand then :wq to write and quit07:43
mrmanic|sleep:)07:43
rkwim used to -su07:43
rkw:)07:43
Tm_TI use rootshell ;p07:43
mrmanic|sleepI use kwrite07:44
mrmanic|sleepbut I pretty much always sudo07:44
rkwhow do use those with the sudo command?07:44
mrmanic|sleepsudo kwrite /etc/fstab07:44
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mrmanic|sleepyou get some weird permissions issues, but nothing fatal07:44
mrmanic|sleepI like konversation07:44
mrmanic|sleepthat's what I use07:45
rkwBAH now im just getting more errors07:46
_phate_so is there no way to put the icons back without manually making links? in Gnome I just have to click three boxes, this is just plain stupid... :(07:47
mrmanic|sleep_phate_: You could get someone to send you their Home.desktop files and whatever else you need.07:47
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mrmanic|sleepor copy them from another computer and customize.07:47
KaiL__phate_: drag&drop from menu and/or panel might work07:48
mrmanic|sleepit does07:49
mrmanic|sleepbut there's no home icon in the menu that i see07:49
KaiL_dnd from konq? (can't test, as konq is deadly broken in breezy)07:50
mrmanic|sleepthe home icon is kind of a pain.07:50
mrmanic|sleepbut it's easy07:51
mrmanic|sleepjust make a shortcut to an application07:51
mrmanic|sleepand make the application kfmclient openProfile filemanagement07:51
KaiL_bad, that the "system"-Menu doesn't support DnD :(07:51
Tm_Thaha07:51
rkware there any other distros like this?07:52
KaiL_rkw: like what?07:52
rkwwell ive tried red hat, mandrake, suse, ect but none that autoinstalls everythink like this one (kubuntu)07:53
KaiL_that's why so many people loke (k)ubuntu :)07:53
KaiL_love..07:53
rkwheh07:54
KaiL_and also why some hate it (the "I have Linux, I am god"-fraction)07:54
rkwyea07:54
rkwlol07:54
rkwwell if i could get it to mount my windows partition i would love it07:54
mrmanic|sleeprkw07:55
mrmanic|sleep1 sec07:55
rkwk07:55
KaiL_/dev/hda1 /media/windows_c vfat auto,users,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 007:55
KaiL_/dev/hda1 /media/windows_c ntfs auto,ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 007:56
mrmanic|sleepyeah, like that.07:56
mrmanic|sleepI was just on my way to doing that.07:56
mrmanic|sleepKaiL_: don't you need the "user" option to make it user-mountable?07:56
KaiL_mrmanic|sleep: that's automatic mounting07:56
KaiL_why mount internal partitions manually?07:57
rkwthank you :)07:57
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mrmanic|sleepKaiL_: good point!07:58
mrmanic|sleep<-- BAKA!07:58
mrmanic|sleepgood grief....it's so bedtime07:59
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rkwsweet i got it working08:07
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rkwNOW i love this OS08:08
KaiL_I hope, this will be automated until breezy becomes final08:08
rkwbreezy?08:08
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KaiL_next ubuntu release, planned for October 200508:09
rkwsweet08:10
jsgotangcohello! does anyone here know who did KUDOS?08:10
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deweysay does kubuntu have kdiskfree in it for a download?08:13
KaiL_"kdf"...08:14
deweyKaiL_: where is kdf package?08:15
KaiL_you need to enable universe in /etc/apt/sources.list08:15
deweyok08:16
rkwanyone know how to get wireless cards working that were not autodetected?08:16
KaiL_rkw: depends on the chip08:16
rkwbuilt into a dell laptop08:17
KaiL_look at lspci output08:17
rkwi have no idea what that is08:18
KaiL_or easier: kmenu -> system -> info center08:18
KaiL_there select "PCI" and search for some "Network Adapter"08:18
KaiL_...or "network controller"?08:19
KaiL_hmm, no WLAN here ;)08:19
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rkwanyone know where i can get ndiswrapper?08:20
KaiL_you only need to install ndiswrapper-utils.08:21
KaiL_the module already comes with the hoary kernel :)08:21
rkwhow do i get that installed?08:21
KaiL_.....and I hope for you, it's no Broadcom-Chip08:21
KaiL_system -> kynaptic08:21
rkwmy luck it prolly is 08:21
KaiL_you should find out the chip first08:22
rkwi still dont see it08:22
rkwlooking in networking08:22
KaiL_at least for Broadcom and RaLink (2 of the most common ones) installing the 2.6.12-pre kernel from breezy is the easiest solution :)08:22
KaiL_look in PCI08:23
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KaiL_in networking you only see the configured devices08:23
rkwyup broadcom08:24
KaiL_as always, the worst you can imagine *g*08:24
rkwcrap08:25
rkwid almost just buy another card08:25
KaiL_Broadcom-Chips need an newer ndiswrapper than shipped with hoary08:26
KaiL_of coz exactly 1 version newer (what else?)08:26
rkwlol08:26
rkwi cant even find the option to install ndiswrapper08:26
KaiL_there's a search option08:28
KaiL_but as said, installing that version doesn't help. so here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Installation08:28
KaiL_you need to install the kernel headers before. "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" in a console.08:29
KaiL_after that the "Prerequisites" step is done ;)08:30
KaiL_uhm.... if you could download ndiswrapper currently, that is.... *grr*08:31
rkwheh found a walkthrough on it08:36
rkwbut,,, i cant do anything cause the server is down08:37
KaiL_...murphy....:)08:38
KaiL_same problem, why experienced users always have intel WLAN and newbies boardcom *g*08:39
KaiL_(the first works out of the box)08:39
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rkwok ive got another wireless card witl linux drivers,,, filename ends in .gz,, do you know how i install them?08:52
rkwanyone?08:54
rkwanyone?08:56
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Sputn1kSputn1k Im using suse and my were kde broken, clock, K menu button expired, and when i click on minimize button program just expire, how can i fix it?09:12
Tm_Thmm09:16
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gromfhello everybody !09:25
Tm_Thullo09:26
gromfhas somebody an acer 4150 laptop ?09:28
SlicerDicer 67.160.114.35  for ut2004 join up have some fun :)09:35
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e-gurudoes anybody know how to load a new DSDT table at boot time to ubuntu?10:30
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xxenonwow, nice mess in breezy :)10:45
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Tm_Thaha10:47
Tm_Txxenon: you suppose to expect it10:48
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e-gurudoes anybody know how to compile DSDT table? iasl tool seems to be missing in kubuntu11:06
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Church_of_FoamYanyone know how to delete directorys in cedega?11:14
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amue-guru: itt's bit difficult to get them, probably the best is, compile the sources from intel's page 11:20
e-guruamu: I dont get it, it comes by default distribution of FreeBSD, I am going to compile in freebsd and copy the result11:22
e-guruamu: thanks, I will reboot11:23
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Tm_TRiddell: bling bling11:30
RiddellTm_T: hi11:35
Tm_Tsomeone asked about http://ianmurdock.com/?p=16711:37
Tm_Tquestion was "is ubuntu team answered already to murdock?"11:38
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SenorTHi there ppl11:51
SenorTdoes kubuntu recognizes my two pseudo CPUs when using a hyperthreading P4 processor ?11:51
RiddellSenorT: yes but you'll need to install linux-686-smp11:52
SenorTRiddell, is that all ? 11:52
Tm_TI think yes11:53
SenorTjust apt-get install it ? sorry if that is a noobish question, i feared i have to recompile a kernel or sth like that11:53
Riddelljust a quick apt-get install and you're done11:54
Tm_TSenorT: yes, apt it =)11:54
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Tm_TRiddell: well, any thoughts about that blog?11:54
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RiddellTm_T: 100% compatible packages isn't going to happen because ubuntu not only wants the latest kde/gnome but also x, glibc and gcc11:55
Tm_Thmm, but compatibility as far as possible?11:56
Riddellthe gcc transition work we're doing is going to make it a lot lot easier for debian to do it11:56
Tm_Tok, thank you :)11:57
Riddellthe packages will be compatible as far as possible within that yes11:57
SenorTanyone in here ever tried to compile wineX cvs ?11:59
Tm_TSenorT: yes, last summer ;)12:01
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SenorTTm_T, i get some errors during the configure part, i dunno what to do now12:03
Tm_Thmm, what kind of errors?12:03
SenorT4 warnings (dga extensions Xfree86 vmode, xvideo extensions Xcursor extensions xrenderquery extensions.. all not found)12:04
Tm_Tso install them12:04
SenorTand 1 error: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a is present12:04
SenorT"..this prevents linking to opengl. delete the file and restart configure"12:05
SenorTshall i delete it really ? 12:05
SenorTand i dunno what packages i have to apt-get install to get rid of the warnings12:06
Tm_T"apt-cache search foo"12:06
Tm_Tyou can search packages, you know ;)12:06
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SenorTi found nothing when i searched for vmode (warning: xfree86 vmode extensions not found)12:09
SenorToh12:09
SenorTi found kdegraphics, but this is already installed12:09
SenorTuff, if i install the dev packages, it goes further12:14
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SenorThi rodolfo 12:17
rodolfohi12:17
othernoobhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=5578003266  lol12:18
rodolfoI have a problem with the setting of the resolution of my graphics card. it looks like it isn't read properly by xorg12:20
SenorTi also had these problems12:26
SenorTwhat isnt working?12:27
SenorTcant u set the correct resolution ? or the frequency ?12:27
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rodolfoI had to change all the font sizes, because suddenly the characters were smaller, but I didn't change the resolution, it has always been 1280x102412:42
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Kleggaswhen I use another loginmanager than kdm I can't run all kde apps that I want. kopete wont start at all, and kwrite will start after a very long time of idleing trying to connect to dcopserver. how do I fix this?12:57
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SenorTwhats the best tool for ripping audio cds and converting them to... ogg or mp3 ?01:22
RiddellSenorT: audiocd:/01:24
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Riddellthere's also kaudiocreator01:25
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miklBreezy kubuntu - still going strong ;)01:37
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Tm_Tmikl: good for you ;)01:58
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pointwoodI have a problem with Firefox and Sun's Java02:10
pointwoodtesting it with http://gemal.dk/browserspy/java.html02:10
pointwoodit says java is enabled and supported02:10
pointwoodbut it doesn't load the applets below :(02:11
hussamSince Hoary has gnumeric 1.4.2, I rebuilt 1.4.3 from debian sources. YAY.  This is the first time I rebuild/backport a package.02:16
hussamlol02:16
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hussamhow do I make a .deb package from source.tar.gz ?04:00
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Riddellhussam: has it already been made into a debian p04:02
Riddellhussam: has it already been made into a debian package and you're recompiling?04:02
Riddellor is this making a package from scratch04:02
hussamRiddell: first package gnumeric worked, because I used the source from debian repositories to rebuild04:03
hussamRiddell: I tried the same with konversation 0.17 but it didn't work04:04
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hussamI did apt-get source gnumeric and rebuilt.  It worked perfectly04:05
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hussambut I can't get konversation 0.17 to rebuild04:05
SenorThow can i add a user to a group ?04:06
SenorThi btw04:06
hussamSenorT: sudo  adduser <username> <group>04:06
SenorTthx04:06
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hussamRiddell: hoary shipped with konversation 0.16 and I wanted to see what changes went into 0.1704:08
NothingButYoumaybe konversation 0.17 isn't in the repo?04:10
hussamNothingButYou: it is in debian04:11
hussamNothingButYou: I'm getting this error:04:11
hussamtering directory `/home/hussam/Packages/konversation-0.17'04:11
hussammake[1] : *** No rule to make target `reverse-config'.  Stop.04:11
hussammake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/hussam/Packages/konversation-0.17'04:11
NothingButYouso there can be something wrong with the source..04:12
Riddellhussam: you need a newer version of cdbs04:12
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Riddellit should build on breezy04:12
NothingButYouor that :P04:12
hussamRiddell: I modified the /debian/control for the cdbs04:13
hussamI'll try extracting the source and I'll do ./configure and make04:13
hussamI did ./configure and make, it's compiling fine04:15
Tm_Tlooks like unsermake doesn't compile everything04:15
hussamRiddell: it compiled fined with ./configure and make04:16
RiddellTm_T: what doesn't it compile04:18
hussamRiddell: compiling from source.gz worked.  Is there anyway I can make the .deb from just source.gz ?04:19
Riddellhussam: nope04:19
Riddellbut make install will install it for you04:20
hussamRiddell: i know but then I'll have two versions at once.04:20
NothingButYouwhy doesn't he do a "make install PREFIX=/anywhere" and then make a package04:20
Riddellif you install into /usr it'll overwrite the old one04:21
NothingButYouwasn't there a tool to make a package? :)04:22
hussamRiddell: where is the old binary installed?04:23
NothingButYouin /usr04:23
hussamI found it. the executable is in /usr/bin04:24
NothingButYou"apt-get remove konversation", then "make install" if you want it that way. Then if you want the old version "make uninstall" and "apt-get install konversation"04:25
hussamso I should "make install what" to overwrite it?04:25
SenorTis it possible (for a noob) to "convert" my kubuntu installation from the given reiserfs to reiser4 ?04:26
NothingButYouhussam: you should do just "make install" Also you should have made "./configure --prefix=/usr"04:26
NothingButYouto install it in /usr04:26
hussamoh04:26
hussamOk I see04:27
NothingButYouif you haven't "prefix=/usr" "make clean" and do it again , then "make" and "make install" :):)04:27
hussam"./configure --prefix=/usr" will place the binary in /usr/bin ?04:28
NothingButYouyes04:28
hussamok thanks buddy04:28
NothingButYouNP .. ammm another thing04:28
NothingButYouI think that removeing the old version is.... necessary sometimes04:29
NothingButYou:)04:29
NothingButYouto avoid sh*ts :)04:29
NothingButYouhave fun04:29
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hussamif I remove konversation, it'll remove kubuntu-desktop04:30
NothingButYouwell.. it is safe to do that04:31
NothingButYoumaybe..04:31
NothingButYouthat's a metapackage AFAIK04:31
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deweysay I want to mount my usb-zip drive and I can not seem to get it mounted?04:33
NothingButYou<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">04:35
NothingButYou<body>USB Iomega Zip 100</body>04:35
NothingButYouargh..04:35
NothingButYouUSB Iomega zip or something like this?04:35
NothingButYoudewey: 04:35
deweyNothingButYou: yes04:37
NothingButYouI can't help much with that but read this, it may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1855.html04:37
deweyok thanx04:37
NothingButYounp04:37
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deweyNothingButYou: dmesg shows my usb zip is there but it does auto mount it at boot-up!04:45
NothingButYoudewey I haven't read that. I'm sorry. If anybody else can help... :\04:46
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hussamI found checkinstall it will make a .deb04:49
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firaseverytime I want to use my printer I have to go to kcontrol right click on my printer and click on "start printer" to use it05:11
firasis there a way I could automate the process?05:11
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fissozeverytime I want to use my printer I have to go to kcontrol right click on my printer and click on "start printer" to use it05:14
fissozis there a way I could automate the process?05:14
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NothingButYoufissoz after you click on start and finish your job, later  when you need to print again (you have not turned off the pc), is the printer working without Start?05:21
fissozNothingButYou: yes it is05:21
NothingButYouand you're working with the CUPS system,right?05:21
fissozNothingButYou: yes i am05:22
NothingButYouwell my guess is that it is not started at boot ... 05:23
NothingButYouif you can modify the processes started at your runlevel so that cups is started (using KSysV or manually) , then I suppose the problem will be gone05:24
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NothingButYouif you have no idea how to do that I will explain this on private05:24
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antrixhello.. anyone around?05:37
shogoukiits not the good question :)05:38
antrix:)05:38
antrixjust installed kubuntu-desktop .. checking out the apps :)05:38
antrixone question.. why are the fonts for the GTK apps in KDE so small? They are fine when logged into Gnome.05:39
Tm_T=)05:40
Tm_Tdifferent configuration05:40
antrixmeaning? 05:40
antrixLogged in as the same user.. don't gtk apps pick up settings from .gtk* or .gnome*05:42
Tm_Tcheck font settings from gtk theme switcher05:43
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antrixumm... is that an application? :)  can't find it in menus.. 05:45
antrixtabbing in bash on gt* - nothing there either05:45
Tm_Ttry apt-cache search05:45
antrixok05:45
antrixfixed now!05:48
Tm_T:)05:49
antrixalthough a 12 point Bitstream Mono Sans looks different in GTK and in QT ... have to choose different point sizes to get some consistency...05:49
Tm_Tyup05:50
Tm_TI use 7p mono font :p05:51
antrixwow.. i'll go blind with that :)05:51
Tm_Thaha05:51
Tm_TI even consider 6p fonts05:51
antrixwhat's ur display size?05:52
Tm_T17" 1280x102405:53
Tm_TI wan't 19" 1600x120005:53
antrixi am on 15# 1024x768 :(05:54
antrixjust ran across this weird thing.... USB drive connected.. automounted by clicking on desktop icon05:55
antrixaccess through media:/ in konqueror05:55
Tm_Tyes?05:56
antrixnow moving files across folders within that mounted drive is triggering05:56
antrixa copy followed by a delete05:56
antrixthe file copy dialog says moving from file:///media/sda2/foo.bar to media:/sda2/folder/foo.bar05:57
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SenorTanyone here using 7zip ?06:08
SenorTarchive format06:09
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antrixis 7zip a different format?06:10
SenorTyep06:10
SenorTthere is a kio slave available here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=17829 but i cannot install it06:10
SenorTi dont even know what a kio slave is06:11
antrixit's an abstraction KDE provides for IO devices 06:11
antrixso you can access cdrom drive thru cdrom:/ and removable media thru media:/ 06:11
SenorTwhen trying to ./configure i get a "Qt (>=Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found." and now i dont know what i am missing06:12
SenorTlibqt? libqt3? libqtsomething? i dont know what i should install06:13
psnSenorT: libqt3-dev06:13
antrixumm.. you'll have to install the libqt3-dev and libqt3-headers packages06:13
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SenorTk, thanks06:15
antrixSenorT: have you finished compiling 7zip itself?06:15
SenorTi just apt-get installed it p7zip sth06:16
SenorTon the page: "f you want to open a 7zip archive only double-clicking in it, you have to apply a patch to kdebase. This patch is already in kdebase CVS version (20041107), but not in kdebase 3.3.x." 06:17
SenorTwhich kde is used in kubuntu ?06:17
antrixSenorT: 3.406:17
KaiL|Sheep3.4.0 in hoary, 3.4.1 in breezy06:17
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SenorTso this "feature" is already included ?06:17
antrixyes, should work after you compile the kio slave06:18
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SenorTcool06:18
KaiLas it has been in CVS in November 2004, it should be in latest release06:18
antrixSenorT: btw, which repository had p7zip... i can't find it.. can't apt-get install 06:19
SenorThttp://adn.diwi.org/debian/p7zip/06:20
SenorTthere are debs06:20
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antrixok06:20
firasRhi all06:20
SenorTuff, now i get a "you ned kde headers"06:21
SenorT"in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!"06:22
SenorTomg, this is like chinese for me06:22
firasRanyone know if it's safe to uninstall gamin if i'm not using Gnome (i am using a few gtk apps though) ?06:22
firasRit's always giving me problems when i try to unmount partitions06:22
SenorTanyone know what i am missing now ?06:23
Tm_TSenorT: tr to install kde dev packages 06:23
SenorTTm_T, kde-devel <-- this one ?06:24
firasRSenorT:  do u have the kdelibs4-dev package installed ?06:24
SenorTi dont know, how can i check if i have it installed ?06:24
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SenorTomg another 40 MB, my harddrive gets fuller and fuller06:26
antrixSenorT: how many 7zipped files do you deal with? Isn't the command line program enough for the occasional file :)06:27
firasRSenorT:  dpkg -s kdelibs4-dev06:27
SenorTi have hundreds, i used it to back up my files in windows06:27
SenorTvery good compression06:27
firasRSenorT:  one of the lines should say "Status: install ok installed"06:28
SenorTis there a way (sorry if thats a noobish question) to get rid of stuff that i just needed to compile stuff but not for running them ?06:28
firasRSenorT:  or u could just use Synaptic which is much easier :)06:28
firasRSenorT:  like these dev packages ?06:29
SenorTfor example, yes06:29
firasRSenorT:  just uninstall them afterwards:  apt-get remove packagename06:29
SenorTbut how do i know if the applications need them for running ?06:30
antrixSenorT: they don't need dev packages to run.. only during compile06:30
SenorTso i can apt-get remove all *-dev packages i find ?06:30
SenorTsudo apt-get remove *-dev --purge06:31
SenorT(just guessed, dunno if that would work)06:31
antrixSenorT: yes.. although don't sue me if it doesn't work out ;)06:32
SenorThaha, k06:33
SenorTit compiled 06:33
SenorTlets see06:33
SenorTis there a "splitted-window" version of konqueror?06:33
SenorTcoz i dont like the way krusader works06:33
antrixSenorT: on the status bar at the bottom.. right click06:34
firasRSenorT:  try a CTRL+T06:34
SenorT..a dream come true06:35
firasRSenorT:  sorry u said split, not tab, my bad06:35
SenorTnp06:35
SenorTok, the kio thingie compile, make and make install are done06:35
firasRSenorT:  u'r "sudo apt-get remove *-dev --purge" wouldn't work by the way06:35
SenorTbut clicking .7z files doesnt work06:35
firasRSenorT:  tried it06:35
SenorTargh06:35
SenorThehe06:36
antrixSenorT: accessing it via the kioslave works?06:36
SenorTno, but ill try that now06:36
firasRSenorT:  u really should just use Synaptic, it'll make ur life easier 06:37
SenorTnope "protocoll not supported p7zip"06:37
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antrixfirasR: my thoughts exactly!06:37
antrixSenorT: hmm.. maybe KDE needs a restart to pickup the new protocol? 06:38
SenorTill try06:38
SenorTcu in 5 minutes06:38
antrixSenorT : wait06:38
firasRSenorT:  u could however use "dpkg -rP --simulate *-dev"06:38
SenorTwhat ?06:39
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antrixSenorT: KMenu>System>KInfoCenter06:39
firasRSenorT:  remove the --simulate option once ur sure that's what u wanna do06:39
SenorTim still here06:39
SenorTantrix, ok, im there06:39
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antrixSenorT: Check protocols there - in KInfocenter06:39
antrixSenorT: Then try logging back in and check there again :)06:40
SenorTok its not there06:40
SenorTil logout/in now06:40
firasRby the way, what's SenorT tryin' to get working ?06:41
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firasR7zip plugin for konqueror or somethin' ?06:42
SenorTi loged in now06:43
SenorTstill no p7zip or 7zip06:43
SenorTdamn06:44
NothingButYoudoes ARK open it?06:45
SenorTit says 7za not in my path06:46
SenorTYES06:46
SenorTARK opens it06:47
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x2peistuanyone here ??06:48
SenorTok ark can open it (only readable) but any ideas why the kio feature didnt work ?06:48
x2peistuneed some help06:48
NothingButYoum... konqueror-plugins or addons..06:48
NothingButYouSenorT06:48
x2peistukubuntu won't let me login root06:49
NothingButYouare zip files opened in konqueror?06:49
SenorTyes06:49
NothingButYoux2peistu: see the private06:49
NothingButYoummm then maybe it cannot.. don't know06:49
antrixNothingButYou: SenorT was trying to install a kio_slave from kde-apps.org which offers 7zip format access06:50
antrixlike zip:/ 06:50
deweyso how do I get kaffeine to play encrypted dvds?06:51
antrixSenorT: where's 7za installed? Did the command line version work for you?06:51
SenorTyes06:51
SenorTi can "7za -l file.7z" in bash06:52
antrixthen the 'not in path' error sounds strange06:52
firasRdewey:  http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback06:52
antrixmaybe contact author?06:52
antrixdewey: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#libdvdcss206:53
antrixTm_T: still here?06:54
SenorTi copied the 7za from my home binary (where i compiled it yesterday) to /usr/loca/bin and now the error doesnt appear anymore06:54
deweythanx06:54
antrixSenorT: ok.. well, congrats :)06:55
SenorTok, now i can open the files in ark, in konqueror would be .. nice06:55
antrixSenorT: io slave didn't show up in Kinfocenter?06:56
SenorTnope06:56
antrixSenorT: should contact author then i suggest.06:58
SenorTsth else: i want to clean up my kubuntu a bit, but when trying to remove kamera kynaptic wants to remove kdegraphics and kubuntu-destop06:58
NothingButYouSenorT: they're just metapackages06:58
SenorTi dont understand, i dont need camera support (thats what kamera is about) but why deinstalling kubuntu dekstop ?06:58
firasRSenorT:  it's a part of those metapackages06:58
SenorTaha06:58
firasRSenorT:  makes for easier upgrades and installs06:59
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NothingButYou_root: success I see :)07:01
_rootyeah ;)07:01
Tm_Tantrix: yup07:04
SenorTargh, i now removed some packages with kynaptic. mplayer-386 was one of them07:04
antrixTm_T: no.. just wondering why Firefox didn't pick up the font settings... 07:04
SenorTsonce i use a p4 i tried to install mplayer-68607:04
antrixTm_T: Then found setxdpi on Unofficial Kubuntu guide07:05
SenorTbut it wont let me07:05
antrixTm_T: now need to restart X to see if it fixes Firefox... 07:05
firasRSenorT:  try mplayer-58607:05
firasRSenorT:  mplayer-686 is a "transitional dummy package which can be safely removed07:06
firasRDummy package to upgrade to the new package mplayer-586"07:06
SenorTmissing dependencies: libavcodecscvs, libc6, libfontconfig libvorbis0a xmms07:06
antrixis the marillat repo safe to use again for mplayer?07:06
SenorTE: broken packages07:06
SenorTantrix, works for my VDR machine in the living room07:07
SenorTwhy doesn't apt resolve these dependencies ?07:07
antrixmarillat + ubuntu ? or marillat + debian?07:07
SenorTantrix, my VDR is a somewhat woody machine, very stripped07:07
SenorTwhen i tried to build a freevo box, i also used the marillat packages07:08
antrixlast I heard, Sid and marillat moved to some updated libraries which broke compatibility with Ubuntu07:08
SenorToh07:08
antrixsince then, i've disabled that repo and compiled my own mplayer07:08
SenorTk07:08
SenorTthen ill do that too (i managed to compile mplayer under windows, so i got to manage that in kubuntu)07:09
antrixcompiling mplayer is the easiest thing.. as long as you have all the *-dev packages installed :)07:09
SenorTaah, u mean the ones i removed 5 minutes ago ?07:10
antrixprobably not.. u removed kde-dev and qt-dev i guess.. not needed for mplayer07:11
antrixin any case.. with luck. u might still be caching the downloaded debs in /var/cache/apt/07:11
antrix:)07:11
firasRSenorT:  unless u did an apt-get clean as well (which i hope u didn't do)07:12
SenorThmm, ./configure gave me: disabled: xvid, when i try to install libxvid4 i cant because libc6 is the wrong version07:12
firasR:)07:12
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antrixdon't need xvid -  ffmpeg decodes xvid quite nicely07:13
firasRSenorT:  what's wrong with the mplayer in multiverse ?07:13
SenorTits held back for a reason i dont know07:13
antrixSenorT: I suggest you disable marillat and apt-get update first 07:13
SenorTevery time i apt-get-ed sth i got: held packages: mplayer-386 gstreamer...07:14
SenorTok sources.list updated, updating...07:15
SenorTnow apt-get upgrade ?07:15
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firasRSenorT:  search for mplayer-586 mark it for install and upgrade ur other packages as well07:16
SenorTk07:16
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antrixok.. gotta go sleep. good luck SenorT!07:17
SenorTthanks for your help07:17
SenorTwhat is better: apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade ?07:17
antrixno probs07:17
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SenorTor what the difference ?07:18
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NothingButYoudist-upgrade is better07:18
NothingButYouthe other may break some things generally07:19
SenorTk, thank you07:20
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SenorTHi JensK nice to see german ppl here07:23
Tm_TRiddell: I got some errors when I tried to compile fuse kernel module using unsermake07:23
Riddellwell yes, linux doesn't use the KDE build system07:24
Riddellunsermake only works with KDE07:26
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Tm_Tyeah, I noticed =)07:28
Tm_TI just wanted to try it07:29
Tm_Tif07:29
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mrmanic|sleephaha07:35
mrmanic|sleepTm_T: that's classic07:35
mrmanic|sleep:)07:35
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Tm_Tyeah, I like to test things07:36
spiralhello07:38
spiralhmmm, sorry... I've got a problem with kdevelop... When I run debug on a console C program, I don't see the console...07:38
spiralbut when I run it normally, I see it...07:38
spiraldo you know what misses ?07:38
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NothingButYouI don't07:43
spiraldoes anyone else have an idea ?07:43
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elkrammerhi, anyone here uses kubuntu ppc?08:03
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dnakataThe enemy is weakened!08:31
dnakataJawol!08:31
Tm_Teh?08:32
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philipacamaniacRiddell: Is kynaptic in a CVS or SVN repository somewhere?09:09
Riddellphilipacamaniac: svn https://oops.kerneljanitors.org/repos/synaptic/branches/kynaptic/09:13
philipacamaniacRiddell: Great! thanks...09:16
Riddellphilipacamaniac: but hopefully we'll be using Kapture at some point instead of kynaptic09:18
philipacamaniacRiddell: I'll take a look at Kapture. kynaptic needed a serious overhaul, but if you're moving to something else, I won't bother trying to fix it (kynaptic).09:19
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philipacamaniacRiddell: is Kapture in a working state yet? (I found it in the KDE SVN)09:34
Riddellphilipacamaniac: I suspect it isn't09:35
Riddellyou probably need libapt-front as well first09:36
Riddellwhich is somewhere on alioth09:36
philipacamaniacRiddell: thanks09:36
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istarihmm ... breezy is broken didnt thought so, after most of the kde packages got uninstalled :P09:40
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Tm_Thaha09:44
\shRiddell: r u running kde3.4.1?09:44
Tm_Tistari: you're surprised?09:44
istariTm_T: aehm ... not realy09:45
Tm_Theh09:45
\shi need a test patient ;) for breezy and kde 3.4.1preSomething  and a windowtheme ;)09:46
\shwho wants to volunteer? ,-)09:46
Tm_Thaha09:46
\shcome on guys, no risk no fun ;)09:47
Riddell\sh: nope09:47
Riddell\sh: but I have a chroot with it09:47
Tm_T\sh: well...09:47
\shRiddell: so u can start apps and such things? nice...09:47
Tm_T\sh: if you get pykde packages to me ;)09:47
Riddellwell, so I can make the packages :)09:47
philipacamaniac\sh: I can run it on a vmware machine, but it'll take a few hours to be ready :)09:48
\shTm_T: i would like to give it to you, when python-kde moved to universe ;)09:48
\shRiddell: the packages r already made ;) 09:48
Tm_T:/09:49
\shRiddell: http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/?path=qinx09:49
\shTm_T: I'm in start position...09:49
Tm_T:)09:49
\shTm_T: the source is patched and sources are likeley accepted, but the build-dep will be moved09:50
Tm_Thmm, ok09:50
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x2peistuhow can i download Q3 arena?09:54
spiralhmmm, could anyone tell me how I could install konversation & amarok in french under kubuntu hoary ?09:56
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Tm_Thmh10:06
Tm_Tjust install them10:06
Tm_Tthey supposed to follow KDE locale settings10:06
shogoukispiral: sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-fr10:07
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spiralshogouki: I've allready got this, but konversation & amaroK aren't translated10:27
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shogoukispiral: kopete est en franais chez moi, mai pass konversation10:31
istarihmmm .. is there any timeplan for the g++ and dbus migration?10:32
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spiralshogouki: ouaip, & amaroK ?10:33
shogoukispiral: en anglais10:33
spiralshogouki: ouaip, pareil pr moi... mais ma copine aime pas trp l'anglais10:34
kayHello, my wpasupplication in Breezy does not work after boot. Only manual /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant will associate it10:34
kayHow can this be? I see it running after boot... it should work 10:34
philipacamaniacHow do we close bugs on Launchpad Malone (universe bugs)?10:35
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philipacamaniacnevermind. figure it out. I HATE the malone interface. On the other hand, I love the Ubuntu bugzilla interface.10:39
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othernoobanyone know of a math prog that will do polynomdivision and not only deliver the result but also show the way how it got the result ?10:42
kayCan somebody look up for me (and tell me how to to that) which packages contain X11/extensions/render.h10:43
kay?10:43
philipacamaniacpackages.ubuntu.com10:45
philipacamaniaclibdevel/render-dev10:46
philipacamaniacer, uh... render-dev10:47
kayThanks, I wanted to know that site for long, never found a link10:47
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kayI am compiling KDE SVN and X11 migration hurt somewhat10:47
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StRhi there...11:02
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SenorTback11:03
SenorThmm, why does the performance monitor only show one cpu ? i have a p4 with HT enabled ?11:04
StRIf you speack spanish, pls join #kubuntu-es11:04
crimsunSenorT: uname -a11:05
SenorTLinux kubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri May 20 13:52:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux11:05
crimsuntwo things, actually11:06
crimsun1) -386 doesn't support smp11:06
SenorToh11:06
crimsun2) the errata kernels disable HT by default for security reasons11:06
SenorTso my system isnt using hyperthreading atm ?11:06
crimsunno, because not only would it be disabled by default but the kernel doesn't have support for it compiled in11:07
StRSenorT: nop11:07
SenorTand how can i enable it ?11:07
crimsuninstall -686-smp11:07
crimsunthen you need to think very carefully whether it's worth the security tradeoff11:08
StRI remember something about getting the root password because of the HT11:08
StRI read it in /.11:08
SenorTsudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp ?11:08
SenorTi read that too11:08
crimsunyes11:08
StRthat was not a problem for single user boxes11:09
crimsunyou'd have to boot with ht=on11:09
crimsunI'd leave HT disabled11:09
SenorTht=on.. /boot/grub/menu.lst <- there ?11:09
crimsunsure11:09
crimsunremember, it's a rather glaring security hole11:10
StRSenorT: yes, or @booting11:10
SenorTerm.. @booting ?11:10
SenorTi dont understand11:10
crimsunwhen you boot11:10
crimsunat the grub prompt11:10
SenorTk, ill be back11:11
othernoobcrimsun why is ht a security risk ?11:15
StRothernoob: because you can get root pass 11:17
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othernoobStR just because of hyperthreading ?11:18
x2peistui need some help with linux11:18
x2peistupls11:18
x2peistuprivate me11:18
Riddell\sh: qinx package works find in breezy11:19
oshx2peistu: Or you could just ask your question here and someone will probably respond... :-)11:19
x2peistuhow can i get fonts for linux open office?11:20
Riddell\sh: make sure it's up to date on the MOTU Candidate packages page and I'll take a closer look at it soon11:20
StRothernoob: yes...11:20
StRx2peistu: what??11:20
oshx2peistu: other than the ones already installed?11:20
othernoobStR care to elaborate ?11:20
x2peistuyeah11:20
x2peistu???11:20
x2peistucan you help me?11:21
StRothernoob: it was posted in /.   ut I think it is for *BSD and solaris... don't remember if it was demostrated to be a real problem in GNU/Linux11:21
x2peistuStR??11:21
philipacamaniacI found a fix for the evil kcontrol Administrator Mode bug: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=18960611:21
\shRiddell: thx...it's up2date on motunewpackages..ready for review :)11:21
oshx2peistu: I have no idea. Probably there are fonts availible for download somewhere but I haven't done anything similar. I'm quite content with the fonts already installed.11:21
x2peistuso there are..........11:22
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crimsunothernoob: it is possible to gain information that normally would not be available11:23
StRx2peistu: the fonts that work in Windows also work in ubuntu11:23
crimsunothernoob: if you're familiar with the concept of covert channels and passive timing attacks, it should ring a bell11:23
x2peistuand how do i use them11:24
x2peistu???????11:24
x2peistuwhere do i copy them?11:24
StRlook in konsole11:24
StRthere is a way to install the fonts there...11:25
x2peistuwhat comand?11:25
StRin the control center...11:26
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StRkontrol... don't remember what the command is..11:26
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ahmenikcontrol11:27
ahmeniunder System Administration > Font Installer11:27
x2peistui am new ..........i don t know this things11:27
philipacamaniacTo install fonts system wide, you'll have to press the Administrator Button11:27
x2peistui am using Kubuntu  for the first time11:27
x2peistutoday11:28
philipacamaniacAdministrator Mode, that is11:28
StRx2peistu: the kontrol center where you configure everithing in kde11:28
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DefHandzAnyone know where I can find the wxPython 2.6 binaries?11:29
DefHandzThe site doesn't have them for ANY Linux.11:29
x2peistuin the konsole?11:29
StRx2peistu: no... look @ the menu.... there is som kontrol center something...11:29
DefHandzno..11:30
DefHandzOh11:30
DefHandzO_o11:30
x2peistufound it11:30
StRany1?  what is the command to call the kontrol center?11:30
mrmanickcontrol11:30
x2peistuwhat should i do next11:30
x2peistu?11:30
StRx2peistu: look for somehting call fonts...  at the end of the options tree11:31
dnakatafinally get to try kubuntu-amd6411:31
dnakataon my new Asus A8N-E AMD64 s939 system11:32
dnakatagood ol' Venice AMD64 3000+ :)11:32
ahmeniApollon says: "Please install the KDE multimedia-video package to enable the media player.", is there a package in apt that has what I need?11:32
dnakatamost importantly, the sporty ASUS NVidia 6600GT/TD128 PCI-Express it'll have on it11:32
StRanyone with breezy?11:32
dnakataahmeni: kdemultimedia11:33
DefHandzAnyone know where I can find the wxPython 2.6 binaries?11:33
dnakatafor kubuntu?11:33
StRDefHandz: nope. why do you want to use wxPython?11:33
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DefHandzSoulseek11:35
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SenorTback11:35
SenorTwith 686 smp enabled11:35
SenorTbut confusing: kopete doesnt start anymore after reboot11:35
StRSenorT: but dou you see 2 CPU now?11:36
SenorTyep11:36
SenorTkopete is strange11:37
StRSenorT:  did you upgrade it?11:37
SenorTthere was a process of kopete left that didnt want to close11:37
SenorTnow it restartet11:37
SenorTyes11:37
SenorTi apt-get dist-upgraded11:37
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SenorTor what do u mean ?11:37
hans_when is start mplayer an error message says: new_face failed. maybe the font path is wrong.      any suggestions?11:37
StRSenorT: did you upgrade the kopete.. it was having some problems with MSN-password11:37
SenorThans, funny nick11:37
SenorThow should i upgrade kopete ?11:38
StRhans_: use kaffeine11:38
hans_SenorT yours too :P11:38
StRSenorT: you are using hary, right?11:38
SenorTyes11:38
StRSenor: and when was the last time you did  apt-get dist-upgrade?11:38
SenorT10 minutes ago11:39
StRSenorT: ok....11:39
StRSenorT:  and kopete is still not working?11:39
SenorTit runs now11:39
SenorTand behaves good atm11:39
StRSenorT:  so.. it is ok now...11:39
SenorTkopete always caused an error when i shut the box down11:39
SenorTyes StR , thanks11:39
StRSenorT: ok11:40
StRanyone here speaking spanish?11:40
SenorTthe guys is #kubuntu-es speak spanish, i think11:41
SenorTsomeone invited hispanospeaking ppl to that channel11:41
StRI created #kubuntu-es... but no1 joins the channel...11:41
StRand the ppl in #ubuntu-es use gnome.... :P11:42
StRXP11:42
SenorTXP is my second choice in grub, :D11:42
StRLOL!!!   11:42
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StRxP  <-- face with closed eyes11:43
philipacamaniacRiddell: I can't find much info on sudoers or sudo. Is it safe to add What does adding  system_username to the file?11:43
StR:P11:43
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SenorTno i just have to find a superkaramba plugin that uses both cpus11:43
StRphilipacamaniac: what do you wnat to do with sudoers?11:43
philipacamaniacsorry cut and paste problem11:43
philipacamaniacI've added system_username to the end11:43
philipacamaniacIt seems to work alright, and now my KControl Administrator Mode works!11:44
philipacamaniacbut, I'm concerned about security11:44
hans_where can i "show" kaffeine the path to the codecs?11:44
StRhans_: my keffenine works with the defalt conf with all my codecs... I didn't need to configure that11:45
hans_i cant play .bin files with kaffeine but with mplayer it works fine11:46
StR.bin?11:46
hans_yes11:47
StRhans_? what kind of files are .bin?11:47
Riddellphilipacamaniac: no idea what that would do, seems unlikely to me that it would do anything11:47
SenorT.bin are cd image files11:47
hans_image files i think11:47
Riddellphilipacamaniac: it won't be unsafe11:47
SenorTthey are image files, normally together with .cue files11:47
philipacamaniacRiddell: That's good. BTW, it really seems to have fixed the Administrator Mode bug.11:47
SenorTcue/bin <-- so called cdrwin images11:47
SenorTsth like .iso, only different..11:48
StRSenorT:  I think .bin files are generic files.. like .dat11:48
Riddellhmm11:48
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SenorTyes, but if some1 says, " i want to play .bin files in xyz player" he normally means images of svcds or sth like that11:48
StRthey DO are cue/bin files... but I have seen install scripts called installer.bin.... so you understand you have to chmod +xxx them11:48
SenorTsure11:49
StRhans_: could you do a ... file file.bin?11:49
hans_say again...11:49
SenorTdo "file /path/to/file.bin"11:50
StRlike if your file is...     someWeirdarchive.bin ...  type:  file  someWeirdarchive.bin11:50
StRhans_: what dou you get?11:51
SenorTi found a .cue/.bin image on my hd, the bin file is "data" the cue file is "ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators"11:51
SenorT"data" is very... special11:51
hans_sw3vcd2.bin.bin: data11:51
StRSenorT:   data is very generic....11:51
SenorTvcd.. its an image of a vcd11:51
StRhmm.. it do is a vcd...11:52
SenorTif i had to guess11:52
StRhans_ mount it as a look device..  copy the biggest file and rename it to mpg....11:52
SenorTare there linux apps that can "mount" or read .bin images ?11:52
hans_thats a good question SenorT11:52
SenorTAVSEQ1.DAT should be the biggest11:53
SenorTbut just copying is a bad idea if u want to burn it again11:53
StRSenorT: try doing that...    read the man about mounting a look device...11:53
SenorTaha11:53
uniqphilipacamaniac: what's the output of 'id' for your user? (konsole)11:53
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philipacamaniacuniq: looks like it did before, member of adm, dialout, cdrom, etc... all the group memberships are the same11:54
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uniqphilipacamaniac: and you are member of the admin group?11:55
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philipacamaniacyes11:55
uniqhmm.11:55
philipacamaniacthat is the default behaviour for Ubuntu11:56
uniqand adding 'yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL' to sudoers fixes your admin mode problems? 11:56
philipacamaniacum, no, adding 'system_username ALL=(ALL) ALL'11:57
philipacamaniacverbatim11:57
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