| hunger_ | Yahoo! As soon as I have all the updates downloaded all the bugs will have vanished! kde 3.4.1 is in the archives:-) | 12:21 |
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| hunger_ | Thanks guys for providing all the debs. | 12:21 |
| uniq | is breezy kde-safe yet? | 12:23 |
| hunger_ | uniq: I doubt that breezy is safe;-) | 12:26 |
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| uniq | kde-safe as in.. x and kdebase is installable? | 12:28 |
| uniq | and starts. | 12:28 |
| hunger | uniq: I am trying that right now:-) | 12:28 |
| uniq | great. | 12:28 |
| uniq | think i'll wait with the upgrade on this machine. | 12:29 |
| hunger | uniq: apt-get install kdebase started and downloads lots of stuff, so the dependencies seem to be ok. | 12:33 |
| uniq | great. | 12:34 |
| uniq | i'm apt-get upgrading the other pc here.. | 12:34 |
| uniq | with breezy. | 12:34 |
| uniq | dist-upgrade removes some vital packages (to me) yet. | 12:35 |
| hunger | kubuntu-desktop is not yet installable. | 12:35 |
| uniq | yet/still. | 12:35 |
| hunger | amarok? | 12:35 |
| uniq | among others. | 12:35 |
| KaiL | there's still enough missing: kdenetwork-stuff, amarok, k3b, kaffeine, konserve, gwenview, kynaptic | 12:35 |
| uniq | you can simply recompile them yourself.. though. | 12:36 |
| === hunger doubt that this is as simple as that. | ||
| uniq | it is for most packages. | 12:38 |
| hunger | uniq: I helped to migrate a c++ project from gcc 2.95 to 3... I am not keen on repeating the experience (even though the current transistion is not that bad). | 12:39 |
| uniq | hehe.. understand :) | 12:40 |
| hunger | uniq: and of course I do not need yet another project to sidetrack me... | 12:41 |
| uniq | heh.. well.. if you need ex. k3b.. it's probably easier to compile it yourself.. than downgrading everything else :) | 12:42 |
| === hunger managed to find a logical connection that brought him from writing a perl script for his boss to hacking on monotone (via ruby, synopsis, code validation and gdb). | ||
| hunger | ... did not yet find the time to get started on that damn perl thingy. | 12:43 |
| uniq | bash rocks :) | 12:44 |
| hunger | uniq: zsh rocks even more;-) | 12:44 |
| uniq | i know.. i use zsh as my default shell.. | 12:44 |
| uniq | but bash for scripts. | 12:44 |
| hunger | uniq: Nah... that is no fun... besides: you should aim for POSIX shells, not bash. | 12:45 |
| uniq | bash rocks. | 12:45 |
| uniq | don't think i'll need a posix shell in the nearest future. | 12:47 |
| hunger | uniq: I keep ending up on strange mashines with strange shells;-) | 12:49 |
| uniq | heh.. luckily i don't have that problem :) | 12:49 |
| uniq | maybe i'll get it.. if i ever install macosx on this machine. | 12:50 |
| hunger | Damn KDE... keeps forgetting my keybindings:-( | 12:55 |
| KaiL | hunger: can you at least get them back? | 01:09 |
| hunger | KaiL: They come and go... | 01:09 |
| KaiL | hunger: here the F-Keys are dead :( | 01:10 |
| KaiL | and some others too | 01:10 |
| KaiL | ...but only for these bindings, F1=help still works | 01:11 |
| KaiL | seams to be an Xorg problem.... | 01:11 |
| uniq | riddell: #10035 should be fixed in hoary-updates now, right? | 01:12 |
| KaiL | ...since centuries ;) | 01:13 |
| Riddell | uniq: certainly should | 01:13 |
| Riddell | KaiL: the fix for malitious removing of /etc/kderc only came through today | 01:13 |
| KaiL | and has an own bug # | 01:14 |
| KaiL | so we can call 10035 fixed with one of the knetworkconf updates | 01:14 |
| Riddell | I think I closed another bugzilla entry for that | 01:14 |
| Riddell | I should get these more organised :) | 01:15 |
| uniq | riddell: i closed this one. | 01:15 |
| Riddell | uniq: thanks | 01:15 |
| KaiL | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11082 << are there localisations for amarok somewhere on the world? | 01:16 |
| KaiL | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10877 should we call this fixed, or should dbus-qt-1 dependency realy reduced to the indirect one? | 01:18 |
| KaiL | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10805 this bug remembers me of Mozilla, there are all reports like this | 01:20 |
| Riddell | KaiL: not sure what's up with the amarok locales, someone needs to investigate that | 01:21 |
| Riddell | KaiL: 10877 is still waiting on a kubuntu-desktop update | 01:22 |
| Riddell | 10805 doesn't look kubuntu specific | 01:23 |
| Riddell | but he seems to just be seeing updatedb happening | 01:23 |
| Riddell | does knemo work for people? | 01:26 |
| Riddell | it doesn't do very much for me even when I add a network interface to it | 01:26 |
| uniq | works for me. | 01:27 |
| uniq | adds a little icon in the systray.. like in windows. | 01:27 |
| Riddell | but the little icon doesn't do anything | 01:27 |
| uniq | lets me add commands to the rightclick menu on the icon. and such. | 01:27 |
| KaiL | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10353 can somebody reproduce that? | 01:27 |
| uniq | i've added enable and disable. | 01:28 |
| uniq | that's all. | 01:28 |
| Riddell | uniq: how do you add commands? | 01:28 |
| Riddell | KaiL: I've heard various complaints about kuser crashing | 01:28 |
| uniq | riddell: right-click - configure - choose your interface - context menu | 01:29 |
| uniq | 'add new entry' on the right side of the box. | 01:29 |
| Riddell | ah, you have to turn the traffic plotter on | 01:31 |
| Riddell | don't see why it can't detect which interfaces you have | 01:31 |
| Riddell | you have turn on the tool tips as well, silly | 01:32 |
| Riddell | and it doesn't flash when there's traffic | 01:32 |
| uniq | mine flashes when it's traffic. | 01:33 |
| uniq | the two monitors icon. | 01:33 |
| Riddell | KaiL: yep, kuser crashes | 01:34 |
| === Riddell confirms | ||
| uniq | kail: I can reproduce the kuser crash too. | 01:34 |
| KaiL | on hoary? doesn't do in breezy... | 01:34 |
| Riddell | ah, a quick fix then :) | 01:34 |
| uniq | i'm on hoary @ ppc.. i can check on breezy @ amd64 too. | 01:34 |
| Riddell | uniq: I found the context menu bit, but how do I set the entries to do something? | 01:36 |
| uniq | kuser isn't very enterprise.. it's actually very broken. | 01:36 |
| uniq | riddell: click on the command field. | 01:36 |
| KaiL | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9900 I guess, xmms-kde is universe? :) | 01:37 |
| uniq | it's har to find the correct spot :) | 01:37 |
| Riddell | ah | 01:37 |
| Riddell | yes, this thing could do with some improvements in user interface and default settings | 01:37 |
| uniq | indeed. | 01:37 |
| Riddell | KaiL: it is | 01:37 |
| Riddell | and there are other media control panel applets | 01:39 |
| uniq | kuser is dangerous.. | 01:39 |
| KaiL | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9837 something for the settings :) | 01:39 |
| Riddell | I want to replace kuser with guideance | 01:40 |
| uniq | tried to add a user to another group.. and kuser changed all other settings for the user.. uid set to 0, shell set to nothing, home gone etc. | 01:40 |
| Riddell | KaiL: I'm open to persuation on that one | 01:40 |
| uniq | now, if i try to remove this user with uid 0.. root will dissapear. | 01:40 |
| Riddell | uniq: the fact that it uses icons from Windows suggests something to me | 01:41 |
| uniq | hehe :) | 01:41 |
| === uniq is taking a look at the amarok package. | ||
| Riddell | chances are it just need syncing with debian | 01:51 |
| KaiL | hmm, we are producing a bit bugzilla spam? :) | 01:55 |
| KaiL | uniq: frode@lnix.net is you? | 01:56 |
| uniq | riddell: you're right.. | 01:56 |
| uniq | kail: yes. | 01:56 |
| uniq | riddell: will things in main get synced from debian automatically? | 01:59 |
| uniq | or is that just for universe-stuff? | 01:59 |
| Riddell | uniq: things that don't have -ubuntu in the version will | 02:05 |
| uniq | amarok have ubuntu in the version | 02:05 |
| uniq | I can make a package of 1.2.4.. | 02:07 |
| Riddell | so it'll have to be done manually | 02:07 |
| uniq | but now.. sleep. | 02:07 |
| Riddell | please do | 02:07 |
| uniq | gnite. | 02:07 |
| Riddell | sleep tight | 02:07 |
| Riddell | I can't work out how to close a beastie in malone | 02:15 |
| KaiL | his WLAN greets :) | 02:22 |
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| hunger | Everything installed fine... all keybindings are broken though. | 02:56 |
| hunger | No Function keys, arrows, nothing:-( | 02:57 |
| hunger | ksysguard no longer displays cpu freq. | 02:57 |
| hunger | Lots of apps are still missing (ok, I knew that before the upgrade). | 02:57 |
| hunger | The rest seems fine. | 02:57 |
| KaiL | can you use juk? | 02:59 |
| KaiL | or does it crash on start? | 02:59 |
| hunger | Not installed. | 02:59 |
| KaiL | <hunger> ksysguard no longer displays cpu freq. << wfm | 03:00 |
| KaiL | what about artsd? | 03:00 |
| hunger | KaiL: juk crashes on start. | 03:01 |
| hunger | artsd crashes... | 03:02 |
| KaiL | and restarts and crashes and restarts and crashes... every 10sec or so ;:) | 03:02 |
| hunger | ... often .... | 03:02 |
| KaiL | I renamed the binary to get it to shut up at least :) | 03:03 |
| hunger | killall -9 knotify did the trick for me. | 03:06 |
| hunger | OK, basically kde 3.4.1 is unusable:-( | 03:06 |
| hunger | KaiL: So much for the bug fixing in that release;-) | 03:07 |
| KaiL | uhm, that's more gcc4 | 03:07 |
| hunger | Of course this is probably a gcc 4 issue... | 03:07 |
| hunger | Good night... | 03:07 |
| KaiL | and the keys got killed by xorg, they where also missing before | 03:07 |
| KaiL | is media:/ back at work? | 03:08 |
| hunger | KaiL I had all my keys working on and of before. | 03:08 |
| KaiL | hmm | 03:09 |
| KaiL | what didn't you update before? :) | 03:09 |
| hunger | KaiL: No icon pops up for my usb stick. | 03:09 |
| KaiL | :( | 03:09 |
| KaiL | ...also not fixed... | 03:09 |
| KaiL | but afaik that's still not 3.4.1 final | 03:10 |
| KaiL | Riddell: or? | 03:10 |
| Riddell | what's the question? | 03:10 |
| KaiL | the packages in breezy are still not 3.4.1 final? | 03:11 |
| hunger | KaiL: the usb stick is not recognized at all. | 03:11 |
| Riddell | they are made with the final 3.4.1 sources | 03:11 |
| KaiL | uh :( | 03:11 |
| KaiL | so dbus not fixed... | 03:11 |
| Riddell | dbus was a quick backport I did from head, I'll need to take a closer look at that | 03:11 |
| Riddell | arts crashes may be due to it being compiled with visibility=hidden | 03:12 |
| KaiL | could you try without? | 03:12 |
| KaiL | it's a "bit" annoying | 03:12 |
| Riddell | yes but it's 2 in the morning and I'm about to go to sleep | 03:12 |
| KaiL | hunger: hmm, cdrom looks quite good | 03:13 |
| hunger | KaiL: media://cdrom works for me. | 03:13 |
| KaiL | ...or not... | 03:13 |
| Riddell | http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/ADMIN.diff patch for arts if you want to compile it yourself | 03:14 |
| Riddell | apply then `make -f admin/Makefile.common dist` | 03:14 |
| hunger | Good night... need some sleep. | 03:14 |
| Riddell | then `debuild` | 03:14 |
| === KaiL needs sleep too :p | ||
| Riddell | lets all sleep! | 03:14 |
| hunger | Wallets work again (for now). | 03:15 |
| Riddell | how pessimistic :) | 03:16 |
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| zyga | hello | 12:53 |
| zyga | http://pastebin.com/291192 | 12:55 |
| zyga | multiple packages contain one file | 12:56 |
| zyga | I thought someone might be interested | 12:56 |
| KaiL | knetworkconf updates some days ago to fix this | 01:06 |
| Riddell | zyga: yep, fix is in ubunut hoary-updates | 01:18 |
| zyga | Riddell: thanks | 01:28 |
| zyga | Riddell: just curious, why not in hoary? (I dodn't have hoary-updats in sources.list) | 01:29 |
| Riddell | zyga: because hoary is done and released, it doesn't change, hoary-updates has the updates | 01:30 |
| Riddell | and hoary-security makes you safe | 01:30 |
| zyga | Riddell: I see, did I miss some package that added hoary-updates to sources.list or should this be done manually? | 01:32 |
| uniq | zyga: the fix is in kubuntu hoary-updates | 01:36 |
| uniq | Some fixes: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main | 01:37 |
| zyga | uniq: how is kubunutu.org repository different from ubuntu.com's? | 01:39 |
| uniq | ubuntu has a very strict policy for fixes to a released distribution. | 01:40 |
| uniq | kubuntu.org is just a "unofficial" workarounds repo.. (could use a more unofficial domainname though).. | 01:41 |
| Riddell | semi-official :) | 01:51 |
| elmo | uh | 01:54 |
| elmo | that's a deceptively official URL | 01:54 |
| elmo | and AFAIK kubuntu's update policy should match ubuntu's? | 01:54 |
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| uniq | dinner.. bbl. | 04:26 |
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| uniq | amu: are you using java on your ibook? - i can't find any useable JRE.. | 07:05 |
| amu | uniq: no | 08:13 |
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| KaiL_ | amu: kdenetwork? :)) | 08:14 |
| amu | KaiL_: <parse_error> | 08:15 |
| KaiL_ | I asked Riddell about that package yesterday (as it's more or less the last not with gcc4), he said, you had locked the package... | 08:17 |
| uniq | amu: ok.. thanks anyway :) | 08:20 |
| uniq | riddell: a new knetworkconf with the much more clean diff is at http://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/knetworkconf/ -> breezy. | 09:46 |
| uniq | amarok doesn't build even with the diffs from cvs. | 09:46 |
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