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philipacamaniacuniq: my sudoers file: http://www.philipandjenny.com/wp-content/sudoers.txt12:04
philipacamaniacseems to have fixed KControl Admin Mode bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868112:05
uniqphilipacamaniac: what if you remove the last line.. and keep the #fix.. line.12:06
uniqdoes it still work? 12:06
philipacamaniacthe #fix line is just a comment I made to myself in case I needed to change something12:07
uniqi know.12:07
philipacamaniacoic12:07
philipacamaniacLet me try...12:07
philipacamaniacNow it sticks on the "Loading..." screen after pressing Administrator Mode12:09
uniqhmm.. very strange.12:09
philipacamaniaci know12:09
nate__i went back to ubuntu, kubuntu just seemed too buggy to me.  it has great potential though, i'm excited to see where it goes12:10
oshnate__: I actually agree with you but I just can't stand gnome. I'm sticking with kubuntu. It's the best distro I've found.12:11
nate__osh, i agree that the ubuntu core is the best distro i've ever found, but i can't stand bugginess.  Even though gnome isn't as pretty, i value function over form12:12
nate__kde is so much prettier12:12
oshThere's a bugzilla.kubuntu.org somewhere where I can file bugs I assume so I'll do that "real soon now(tm)".12:12
nate__unless you use the macOSX theme for gnome, then gnome isn't nearly as ugly12:13
uniqosh: you file bugs for kubuntu on the ubuntu bugzilla.12:14
oshI don't think gnome is ugly. I just feel "trapped" when running it. A matter of preference I think.12:15
oshuniq: Ok. Thanks for the info.12:15
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yorickhi12:16
philipacamaniacuniq: Well, great... I reverted back to my previous sudoers file (with system_username), and now I'm not asked for a password... but admin mode works.12:16
_alihello there12:16
uniqphilipacamaniac: just wait a while and try again.. sudo has this time-limit thing.12:17
philipacamaniacThat's right. I've got to go, but I'm going to try this on my home machine later tonight. I'll post results at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=18960612:18
oshphilipacamaniac: or do a sudo -k which will kill the timer. It's -k or -K. Sligtly different but does basically the same thing.12:18
philipacamaniacI'll try that real quick12:18
philipacamaniacNo change... I can access all admin functions in KControl without a password... whoops12:19
philipacamaniacHowever, opening another app (kynaptic) does ask for the kdesu password12:20
oshwhat does the sudoers file look like? Can you pastebin it? I've been parsing a lot of those at work lately.12:20
philipacamaniachttp://www.philipandjenny.com/wp-content/sudoers.txt12:20
philipacamaniacI have to go, but I'll be on later, and I'll post results to that forums thread12:21
philipacamaniacsee ya12:21
oshtry a sudo -K12:21
oshnot much info in that sudoers file.12:22
philipacamaniacits the default12:22
philipacamaniacminus the new line12:22
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oshAnd it doesn't reveal anything about kcontrol.12:23
oshGo and do your stuff. I'll be here tomorrow too I think. If you haven't solved it by then.12:23
philipacamaniacthanks..adios12:23
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Morandiranyone around?12:30
iepais me here12:30
iepabut I think I can't help you12:30
iepaI'm Ubuntu user, not KUbuntu User12:30
Morandirbummer12:31
uniqi'm here.12:31
Morandirshouldnt matter too much what platform12:31
oshso am i12:31
Morandirany way12:31
MorandirI set up my forward and back mouse buttons...12:31
Morandirgot it working12:31
Morandirthen got fglrx driver for my video12:31
Morandirand my mouse went back to retardation mode12:31
MorandirI've tried everything on the forums...12:32
uniqyou ran fglrxconfig or something? :)12:32
Morandirdont that12:32
Morandirthen redid the mouse process12:32
uniqok.. 12:32
Morandirall the imwheel/xmodmap/.imwheelrc files are right12:32
Razor-Xwhat is the KDE default theme on install?12:32
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Morandirimwheel runs on startup but is retarded, but if I killall imwheel and then run it again.... IT WORKS! >_<12:33
Morandirso Im at a loss12:33
Morandirany suggestions anyone?12:34
Razor-Xis this in a game, or something?12:35
Morandirno12:35
Morandirthis is everywhere12:35
Razor-Xuggghhh, after running apt-get upgrade, my stupid KDE style relapsed12:35
Razor-Xa forward and back mouse button?12:35
Morandiryep12:35
Razor-Xdo you have a special mouse, or something?12:35
Razor-X(bear with me, my memory with mice is foggy, as I don't use one)12:36
Morandirjust an explorerPS/212:36
Razor-Xcan you do me a favor?12:36
Razor-Xcan you tell me the stuff in your KDE theme? or is it nonstandard?12:37
Razor-Xerrr, nevermind, I'll get a new one anyways12:37
Razor-Xan intellimouse?12:37
Morandirjust hit the default button in control center theme manager12:38
Razor-X"Explorer" is a pretty generic Microsoft mouse name, as I can gather12:38
Morandirintellimouse yes12:38
Razor-XMorandir: I don't think it'll work, but i'll see12:38
Morandirit looks like its "KDE-Classic"12:38
KaiLMorandir: breezy?12:39
Morandirkubuntu12:39
Morandir2.6.10-5-38612:39
Razor-Xwell, i'll just get another theme anyways...12:39
KaiLMorandir: that's only the kernel version ;)12:40
Razor-Xso, does this mouse have any special buttons, or such?12:40
Razor-Xor just the standrd 2?12:40
KaiLRazor-X: you try to get a 5button mouse to work?12:40
Morandirleft, right, middle, wheel (up and down) and forward and back12:40
Morandirexactly 5 button wheel mouse12:40
Morandirand I had it working12:41
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Morandirand if I kill imwheel and restart it, it works12:41
KaiL..but?12:41
Morandirbut it doesnt work on startup12:41
Morandirand its really annoying to have to kill/run an ap every time kde loads12:42
Razor-Xmaybe, you want to create a startup script that kills imwheel and restarts it12:42
Morandirthats what Im considering12:42
Razor-XI know my trackball works superb in USB12:42
KaiLit should be started after kde starts12:42
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KaiLfor example from a script in ~/.kde/Autostart :)12:42
Morandirjust make an imwheel.sh in that folder then?12:43
Morandirboy that seems lame, but I guess12:43
KaiLand make it executable12:44
Morandirand that is done how?12:44
Morandirchmod 777?12:44
Morandiror something else?12:44
KaiLchmod a+x12:44
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Morandiris there any gui to mod the start up apps? b/c I'd like to add some apps on startup...12:45
Kite-anyone know what i have to apt-get to instally pygtk/pygtk2?12:46
Kite-*install12:46
Morandirkite: did you update apt-get?12:47
Kite-yeah12:47
Morandir2nd: might need to add repositories12:47
Kite-tried that, from the unofficial ubuntu guide12:48
Morandircheck you /etc/apt/sources.list12:48
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Morandirhrmmm12:48
Morandirthen I dont know12:48
Kite-is there a good place that has a list of apt-get stuff?12:48
KaiLapt-get.org? :)12:48
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oshkite: apt-cache search pygtk?12:49
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Kite-WINNAR12:50
Kite-thank you12:50
oshwinnar?12:51
Kite-winner12:51
Kite-i found it with that12:51
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oshyou found pygtk?12:51
Kite-yeah, its python-gtk212:52
oshahh, good. 12:52
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oshthere's a text-based frontent for apt called aptitude. perhaps try that? with aptitude you can do all the searching and installing and stuff. really neat.12:53
Kite-cool, ill check it out12:54
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dnakatathe trick, you see, is to retain an otherwise rigid body while bootyshaking.12:55
dnakatalean forward slightly, fists together and arms extended halfway12:55
dnakataand swing your rump!12:55
gdhI see.12:56
gdh<making notes>12:56
dnakatatry to make a W shape with it.  once mastered, you may safely attempt the (highly difficult) M motion12:56
dnakataif you are new to the art of bootyshaking, you may opt to start with a simple U shape12:57
Razor-Xback12:57
Morandiranyone know the location of kmix executeable?12:57
dnakatakdemultimedia, still12:57
dnakataoh12:57
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oshMorandir: locate kmix12:57
dnakatawhich kmix12:57
dnakata/usr/bin/kmix12:57
Morandiryep that12:58
Morandirth12:59
Morandirx12:59
dnakata+an -x +ks12:59
dnakatat h a n k s12:59
Morandirno no no12:59
dnakatayes12:59
dnakatawhen expressing gratitude, being lazy suggests a lack of gratitude12:59
dnakataa negation of the demonstration entirely12:59
Razor-Xhow can I go back to using the KDE theme that came with Kubuntu01:00
Razor-Xafter running an apt-get install... it seems to have lost the theme01:00
dnakatarm ~/.kde :D01:00
dnakatabut your settings are entirely reset01:00
dnakata(for everything)01:00
Razor-Xerrm... *cough* maybe I shoulda thought a bit harder...01:00
Morandirbut when you have your internet text script activated that takes all words such as t h a n k s and dynamically switches them to thx there isnt much you can do01:00
Razor-Xany other way without removing all settings?01:01
oshRazor-X: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old   ?01:01
Razor-XI was thinking of doing that, to preserve my old settings... but...01:02
Razor-Xany other other way...?01:02
oshRazor-X: should be easy enough to put back if the new settings doesn't do anything for you.01:02
Razor-Xnothing happened01:07
Razor-Xcan anyone export the default KDE settings? or must I hunt for a new theme?01:07
CuraltonRazor-X: you have to restart kde for that, it still uses the settings and probably rewrites them partially01:08
Razor-XI did01:08
Razor-Xbecause, I realize that01:08
Razor-X*realized01:08
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chxhi. I need a simple app so I can say: here is this MP3 , cut off the first 300 seconds and give me the rest. CLI would be best...01:19
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mpathy_Hi.. I've got a problem with Kubuntu.. What happens just before hotplug starts at the boot sequence?01:20
mpathy_I mean, after, sorry.. Because it hangs there01:20
Razor-Xchx: unfortunately, in my experience, no CLI tool like that exists01:20
gdhchx: if it's a constant bitrate, you can just use 'dd' to chop off the first N bytes :)01:20
Razor-Xbut, you can use Audacity, an audio editor01:20
Razor-Xoh, you can?01:21
Razor-Xo_O01:21
chxgdh: alas not01:21
gdhno? Ah well :)01:21
chxAudacity... hm I am just a very stupid lame user. OK stop this idiocy, I am using Linux since 0.99pl15 sure I can tackle Audacity :)01:21
oshmpathy_: Have a look in /etc/rcX.d/ where X=[2,3,5] . Find hotplug there and you'll see what starts right before it.01:22
mpathy_somebody can help me? is there somewhere a list who shows what happens before and after hotplug on boot?01:22
Razor-Xchx: heh, it's nothing difficult ;)01:22
mpathy_osh: thx01:22
chxHmmm tryin' Audacity01:22
oshmpathy_: It sais somethign like S44hotplug. S=start and 44 is the order. it starts from 1 and goes up to 99 i think.01:23
chxit was Rosegarden I have tried before  and run away screaming...01:24
mpathy_osh: but you dont know any known problems that it hangs up? I removed PCIEHP or something like this, because this was a error who was showed..01:24
oshmpathy_: PCMCIA?01:32
oshmpathy_: generally I wouldn't suggest just removing things that gives you an error... ;-)01:33
gdheveryone gets errors from those PCI hotplug drivers01:34
gdhI doubt too many Kubuntu users run a hot-plug PCI server01:34
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Kite-is there any trick to getting a wireless laptop on to a linksys network?01:36
chxYes, Audacity was simple. Thanks. For the archives: Rosegarden is not simple :)01:36
chxnight all! and thanks.01:37
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paxmasterhow could i use debian brinary by using apt-get 01:49
paxmasterby using the t option i think01:49
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mpathy_osh: I checked it, right now it gives me now errors.. Mostly because it probably hangs up before outputting the error :)01:53
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andreHi. I have a keyboard with special keys (multimedia keys, etc). This keys does not have a keycode when i use xev. Is there a way to configure them02:10
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Curaltonandre: try showkey from a console (not withing X) to see if the keys are noticed at all02:22
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andreCuralton: I tried. But they are not noticed02:29
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Curaltonthen it might be a hardwareproblem02:30
Curaltonmost keyboards work fine though, strnage02:30
Curaltonstrnage*02:30
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andreCuralton: I have a friend with the same keyboard and with the same problem (he tried xeve, not showkey, AFAIK)02:31
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Morandiranyone know off the top of their head how to get cedega to go to window mode (for warcraft3)?02:38
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dnakatayou mean how to get warcraft3 to go windowed mode02:50
dnakatawhy don't you check on the warcraft3 website02:50
Morandirhrmmm02:56
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Curaltonandre: what kb is it? logitechs should work fine02:59
Morandirugh... is there an apt-get for a macromedia flash player equivalent?03:00
Curaltondebian hat flashplugin-nonfree in contrib/ maybe it's somewhere in the ubuntu multiverse03:01
KaiLjup, is03:01
Morandirhrmm03:02
Morandirapt-get install debian hat flashplugin-nonfree NOR apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree03:03
Morandirworked03:03
Curaltons,hat,has,03:03
Morandir?03:06
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MorandirCuralton,KaiL: what do I ask apt-get to get for me?03:10
Curaltonerm, KaiL explain :)03:10
Curaltonapt get will only get what is in the currently used repositories03:11
Curaltonand the currents dont seem to have flashplayer03:11
MorandirI have ubuntu universe added to source.llist03:11
Morandirahh03:11
N17R0u wanna have flash player? 03:11
Morandirwhat was kail talking about then (jup, is)?03:12
Morandirn17R0:yes03:12
N17R0download from website03:12
Morandircant check strong bad without it03:12
N17R0its not in apt-get03:12
N17R0i installed it yesterday, it went smoothly03:12
Morandiruntar it where?03:13
Morandirroot?03:13
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N17R0i untar it to /tmp03:13
N17R0then ./install03:13
reagleBRKLNi can't install juk03:13
reagleBRKLNit needs libtunepimp-bin which fils03:13
reagleBRKLNFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libtunepimp/libtunepimp-bin_0.3.0-2ubuntu5_i386.deb  Size mismatch03:13
reagleBRKLNhow do i fix that?03:14
N17R0hmm juk comes already with kubuntu 03:14
CuraltonreagleBRKLN: try downloading again. the error means the file had a different size than expected03:16
reagleBRKLNN17R0, yes, but i had uninstalled it at some piont trying to get a working libtunepimp-bin03:17
reagleBRKLNCuralton, what do you mean try downloading it again? I assure you, it no working.03:17
reagleBRKLNN17R0: e.g., apt-build --reinstall install libtunepimp203:18
N17R0hmm maybe just do: $ sudo apt-get install juk03:18
N17R0?03:18
reagleBRKLNno, it complains about pimp03:18
reagleBRKLNjuk needs it as dep03:18
N17R0hmm then i dunno03:18
Morandirgot it03:18
Morandirthx N17R003:18
N17R0np ;)03:18
Morandirdnakata:Blizzard nor w3 itself had any command to go to window mode03:19
CuraltonreagleBRKLN: try apt-get update to refresh the local cache.03:21
Morandirahh well.... most is well in the world now at least03:21
reagleBRKLNdid that.03:21
reagleBRKLNi found an old deb and dpkg installed it03:21
reagleBRKLNwish i could find one (`trm`) that worked with mp3s03:22
andreCuralton: My kd is a IBm Enhanced Performance USB keyboard. Do you know something about it?03:22
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Curaltonandre: sorry, no idea. 03:25
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N17R0w00t i just compiled my first prog on linux :D03:39
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andreCuralton: ok, thank you for tour help, anyway03:50
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nuopusDoes anyone know how to recursively remove ubuntu-desktop?04:34
nuopusWant to get rid of all gnome software on one machine04:34
Curaltonsomething along "sudo apt-get --purge remove <insert gnome packages here>"04:37
Curaltontricky part would be to find out what the packages are04:37
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marceloGuys, please help! I don't understand the way my cdrom is "mounted".04:38
marcelowhen I try opening what is theoretically my cdrom device (media:/hdd/) I get a "malformed URL" message.04:40
marceloI don't even know where to start.04:40
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Morandiryep...05:24
MorandirI should just move in here05:24
MorandirIm looking to install ABC Bittorrent for linux and its all python files.. I apt-get for wxPython, but I have no idea how to install/build it.  Ive tried Python abc.py like the forums say... Any suggestions?05:26
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siblurYeah! got it working :)08:22
siblurfor you, what's your reasons why you use kubuntu over ubuntu?08:24
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\shsiblur: I'm using ubuntu with kubuntu ;)08:32
\shsiblur: at least only the desktop enviroment is the difference. the basement is the same.08:33
sibluryes, i know. Do you see more bugs in your kubuntu in ubuntu ? ;)08:33
\shsiblur: no08:34
NothingButYouI'm using kubuntu because I don't have to DLoad KDE after installation...08:34
siblurwhat do like in kde that you cant find in gnome?08:34
NothingButYouKonqueror, amarok, k3b, kaffeine and others...08:35
siblurand are you missing something from gnome?08:36
NothingButYouno08:38
NothingButYouinkscape works, GIMP too08:38
NothingButYou:}08:38
NothingButYouKDE is fast for me.. what should I miss.. :)08:38
x2peistucould anyone tell me how can i get some games for my kubuntu?08:39
x2peistu????08:40
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siblur:) I run linux like 4 years ago and all the X things changed so much! and after test gnome and kde.. as like 4 years ago, kde is my best :P08:41
ikypakisok08:42
siblurthe GUI is much more confortable08:42
ikypakis=}}}08:42
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Tezkahewww colours08:54
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Tezkahthe only comfortable GUI is afterstep09:42
Tezkahthis is truth09:42
mrmanicby "truth" you mean "my opinion", yes?09:46
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shogoukior "false"09:49
Tezkahhehe09:54
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x2peistucould anyone help me with the installation of dc++10:00
x2peistu????????10:00
x2peistupls10:00
Tezkahx2peistu: do you want it for KDE, or GNOME?10:01
x2peistukde10:01
Tezkahsudo apt-get install dcgui-qt10:01
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runelindwhy does guarddog require the kubuntu installer CD?10:16
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_Church_Of_Foamewhats the command to delete files?10:56
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Gubbinskj11:07
Gubbinsurr..sorry, nevermind11:07
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Tm_T_Church_Of_Foame: eh?11:08
VyRuZanyone know of any sfv verificatyion software for kubuntu ??11:11
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GubbinsWhat package from the repository has "dialog" in it (text-based graphics)11:16
GubbinsI thought it would have come with bash11:16
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Gubbinspopguns11:21
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x2peistuis anyone who could help me with instalation of DC++11:38
x2peistupls11:38
x2peistuprivate me11:38
Tm_T...11:39
x2peistucould anyone help me...........????????11:40
x2peistupls11:40
x2peistui don t know how to install DC++ on kubuntu11:40
x2peistuhelp 11:41
x2peistupls11:41
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shogouki"how to no obtain an answer on irc, first lesson"11:45
Tm_Tyup =)11:45
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SixOfThirteenhey, if i dist-upgrade my hoary to breezy am i likely to hose my system?12:09
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ToutPT|ppc|frhi12:15
Tm_TSixOfThirteen: well, breezy is broken, as usually12:17
SixOfThirteenfair enough, i was hoping to get a kopete update with the msn-ssl thing fixed12:20
Tm_Ttopic? ;)12:21
Tm_Tand first part of it12:21
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SixOfThirteenare you implying kopete is now fixed? i don't see anything in the changelogs12:25
ToutPT|ppc|fris there a channel ppc ?12:25
Tm_TSixOfThirteen: I don't know, but I think there's fix12:27
SixOfThirteenyeah, it works, cool :)12:28
Tm_Tok12:28
Mezis there a way to get the tabs somewhere other than the bottom in konversation?12:28
Tm_Tdon't use konvi, use irssi ;)12:28
SixOfThirteenuse kopete :P12:29
ToutPT|ppc|frxchat12:29
shogoukiuse the force12:29
ToutPT|ppc|fr^^12:29
Tm_Tyuk12:29
Tm_Tfeel the force12:29
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Mezkopete for IRC?12:29
MezI dunno12:29
ToutPT|ppc|frguys why $exec locale12:29
sdogihow can i get past of that error what comes when upgrading12:29
MezI like like XChat... but konversation ahs grwn on me12:29
ToutPT|ppc|frdo my konsole crashes12:30
sdogikdelibs-data is trying to overwrite file inknetworkconf12:30
Tm_Tsdogi: specify error12:30
Tm_Tah12:30
sdogii thought about using --force-yes with apt-get but not sure12:30
Tm_Tsdogi: topic ;)12:30
SixOfThirteeni'm using kopete for irc right now... it's fine12:30
sdogioh12:30
Tm_TSixOfThirteen: gui...12:31
sdogicool, thanks i'll check it out12:31
Tm_T=)12:31
sdogididn't know there is kubuntu.org already :)12:31
SixOfThirteenTm_T: yes, kde... hence kubuntu... not console-ubuntu :P12:32
ToutPT|ppc|frlol12:32
ToutPT|ppc|frtoutpt@ToutPTppc:~$ whereis exec12:32
ToutPT|ppc|frexec:12:32
Tm_Tsdogi: add "deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main" into your sources.list12:32
Tm_TSixOfThirteen: hey, I don't need gui to irc ;)12:32
sdogioh12:32
Tm_TSixOfThirteen: http://xob.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo_037.png12:32
mikl153 packages held back - new personal record :)12:33
Tm_Thaha12:33
Tm_Tmikl: breezy?12:33
miklTm_T: yup :)12:33
Tm_TI knew it!12:33
Tm_T=)12:33
Tm_Tyou must love it12:33
SixOfThirteencya round like a froot loop12:34
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miklTm_T: It'll prolly be plenty fun when they get a few things sorted out - but until then ;)12:35
Tm_Thaha12:35
Tm_T"a few" ;p12:35
sdogiso this hoary(releasename)-updates is going to be a part of the kubuntu from now on?12:38
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miklwell, I guess we could also say that system breakage occurs frequently :)12:39
sdogieh?12:39
VyRuZis there a sfv verification program for kubuntu ??12:39
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jazwechi..please..cuold anybody help me with installing mozilla firefox12:52
Tm_Tapt-get install mozilla-firefox ?12:53
jazwecpackage mozilla firefox is not available..bla bla bla..package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate12:56
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VyRuZjazwec same here12:59
VyRuZplease someone help12:59
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Firetechjazwec: it's apparently named only firefox now...01:16
Firetechso apt-get install firefox01:16
shogoukicause of the mozilla branding guidelines01:16
Firetechthat seems a bit silly...01:17
jazwecoh thx01:17
jazweccouldnt find package firefox01:18
shogoukiapt-cache search firefox01:18
jazwecstill couldnt find package firefox01:20
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jazwecoh it works01:22
jazwecthx01:22
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jazwecwhen i start it..it writes: the file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found01:26
jazwecoh probably i solved it01:28
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Roman2KHi :)01:31
Roman2KI had installed Ubuntu and then the package "kubuntu-desktop" and choosed kdm as login manager. But now when I start the PC, there is KDM as login as login manager but then gnome starts and not KDE. How must I do to make KDE start instead of Gnome, please ?01:34
KaiLthe icon in the bottom left corner01:39
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Roman2Kwallet ?01:39
KaiLin kdm01:40
KaiLsession type or so01:40
Roman2Kok i'm going to see thank you01:40
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Some fixes: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun | http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php
=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Riddell at Thu May 26 13:18:53 2005
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tron_test04:08
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tango_hi all04:49
Tm_Thullo04:49
tango_does pmount only work with removable media?04:50
Tm_Thmm04:50
Tm_Tpmount?04:50
tango_yes04:50
Tm_Tpmount - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user04:50
tango_ok, the question should rather be put this way:04:50
tango_yes04:50
tango_the man says04:50
Tm_Tyup04:51
tango_only removable device04:51
tango_so the question is rather: is there a way to make it work with the hard disks?04:51
Tm_Tso use normal mount for HD04:51
tango_I was looking for a way to make it work without fstab entries04:51
Tm_Theh04:51
tango_which is almost a necessity for live systems04:51
Tm_Tso mount with sudo04:51
tango_plus, I wanted a way to make it work automagically04:51
Tm_Tah!04:52
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tango_so as to aid the casual nonsavvy user04:52
tango_(e.g. my father)04:52
Tm_TI dunno04:52
tango_what I was wondering is04:53
tango_are there technical reason for pmount to only work with removable media?04:53
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lord_crowhi everyone05:19
lord_crow i've looking everywhere about this, with no results... does anyone knows how to make work a xerox workcentre PE16 in kubuntu hoary????05:20
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lord_crowor where to find an answer...05:20
rexykikcan anyone tell me how to get my usb harddrive to mount?05:21
lord_crowrexykik: i think mount -t filesystem /dev/sda1 (it's usually sda1, you can see /var/log/messages to check that) /mnt/mountpoint05:22
lord_crowrexykik: where -t filesystem is the filesistem of your disk, like vfat, reiserfs, ext3, etc05:23
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_jimhi guys, i've just set up kubuntu for my dad05:56
_jimit works great but i'm having some trouble with the default route05:56
_jimi have to do /sbin/route add default gw 10.2.2.3 all the time05:57
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thoreauputic_jim: pretty quiet in here atm - try #ubuntu05:57
_jimk, thanks05:57
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=== _osh has managed to get a dvd to play in mandriva but not in kubuntu. Annoying error. The same libdecss-version are installed in both distributions. :-/
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Tm_T=)06:02
oshAnnoying as hell.06:02
Tm_Twhat program you use?06:02
oshTm_T: Kaffeine, in both dists.06:02
Tm_Tyuk06:03
Tm_Thave you tried oKle?06:03
Tm_Tor mplayer/Kplayer06:03
oshFor some reason it won't install mplayer for me. I'll remove kaffeine and see if I can install mplayer then.06:04
Tm_Teh, it has nothing to do with that06:05
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Tm_Tinstall Kplayer06:05
miklkaffeine is rather buggy... :(06:05
_jimthoreauputic: thanks that worked :)(06:05
Tm_Tno shit =)06:05
thoreauputic_jim: :)06:05
thoreauputic_jim: you're welcome06:06
oshIt claims to have a dependancy on libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but sais that "It won't be installed".06:06
thoreauputic_jim: man interfaces for more info as you need it06:06
thoreauputicosh: I'm guessing you have nerim/marillat enabled?06:07
oshIf I try to install libavcodeccvs it claims to be dependant on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 will be installed.06:07
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thoreauputicosh: if so, comment it out and update, then try again06:07
oshthoreauputic: Yep.06:07
thoreauputicsee above06:07
thoreauputicmplayer is now in multiverse and you are seeing conflicts06:08
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oshthoreauputic: I'll try your solution. Thanks.06:08
thoreauputicosh: should work06:08
thoreauputicosh: you can kick me if it doesn't ;)06:09
IIIEarsGood Morning :) - I need help setting the display resolution for Kubunut. i810 8245g Brookdale06:09
miklI wish someone could make a multimedia-player for Linux that "Just Works"(tm)06:09
thoreauputicmikl: xine-ui with w32codecs "just works" here06:09
pussfellerthey pretty much do06:09
IIIEarsShould i enable DRI or use the framebuffer?06:09
pussfellerits actually easier to get a decent working player with all the codecs in a managed package system on linux than it is on windows06:10
thoreauputicpussfeller: agreed06:10
IIIEarsShould GLXcore be enbled with glx?06:10
pussfellerbrowser/streams, well thats a bit hit and miss, but gettting better06:10
Tm_Tosh: you can always compile it yourself06:11
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pussfellerhow do i kill this gam_server 06:11
IIIEarsps -e  grab the pid #   then kill pid  ?06:12
miklpussfeller: sudo killall gam_server06:12
pussfellernope it restarts06:12
Tm_Tkillkilldiedie06:12
IIIEarsmikl - Can you help me with my display?06:12
miklIIIEars: yes, probably :)06:13
pussfellereven killall -9 gam_server && umount /thing dont work06:13
pussfellerits fast on its feet06:13
oshTm_T: I've removed marillat and now it seems to work. Atleast it's installing mplayer now...06:13
IIIEarsI have onboard video (groan) i810 8245g brookdale.06:13
oshI'll let you know if it'll play my dvd soon.06:13
_jimheh... just installed kubuntu as dual boot on my parents computer....it was in XP and she sat down and was like....how do i get back to other one :P06:14
pussfelleranyone else had probs with kio thing that handles dvds and having to kill it06:14
thoreauputicosh: had a feeling it might work ;)06:14
miklIIIEars: Is it just the resolution in X that needs tweaking or what?06:14
IIIEarsYes - 640x48006:14
pussfellermy mom starts screaming when I even mention linux06:14
Choubaka:D06:15
miklsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:15
IIIEarsThe chat window is HUGE - getting motion sickness as the words fly by. - lol06:15
_jimpussfeller: i didn't use the word linux at all....they asked me if there was anything i could do to stop spyware06:15
miklIIIEars: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:15
_jimi just told them i had another system they could try06:15
_jimif they liked it they could keep it06:15
thoreauputic_jim: good strategy :)06:15
IIIEarsYes - not familiar with the settings for this card.06:15
_jimthey already use firefox and thunderbird under windows so it wasn't too hard06:16
Tm_Tosh: whoa =)06:16
_jimtheir life hasn't changed much06:16
thoreauputic_jim: and it's getting easier for people all the time :)06:16
_jimonly k3b instead of nero which my dad constantly cocks up anyway 06:16
miklIIIEars: resolution is primary dependent on your monitor-settings 06:16
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_jimthoreauputic: yeh, aside from that issue with the network everything works perfectly...06:16
ChoubakaMy sisters sometimes complains about not having MSN messenger.06:16
Choubaka-s06:16
IIIEarsDisplay properties offer one res 640x48006:16
ChoubakaThat's their only gripe 06:17
thoreauputic_jim: you didn't resolve htat?06:17
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_jimthoreauputic: yeh i did, just saying that was the only hiccup06:17
ChoubakaAnd they love the Gimp :D06:17
thoreauputic_jim: ah, I see :)06:17
_jimthe rest went perfectly06:17
miklIIIEars: the resolutions available for X is depenadant on what it thinks the max-values for HSync og VRefresh is06:17
_jimChoubaka: yeh, dad's a photoshop whore and he thinks gimp is faster so he's using that now06:17
miklIIIEars: as defined in the monitor-section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:18
Choubakahehe.06:18
pussfelleryer older generation, email and a browser... anything beyond that... they have no need06:18
pussfelleror idea06:18
_jimChoubaka: though i did buy xover office just incase he needs photoshop06:18
IIIEarsmikl - the resolution values from dpkg xorg looked okay.06:18
oshHow do I open a dvd in the mplayer gui?06:19
Tm_T...06:19
miklIIIEars: in that case it /should/ work06:19
IIIEarsthe i810 driver doesn't ofer accel.06:19
pussfelleryou can get dri with i81006:20
Tm_Tosh: use rightclick06:20
Tm_Tosh: that's where you find things everywhere06:20
oshTm_T: I just found it.06:20
IIIEarsreally don't know what thae dri setting does06:20
_jimthoreauputic: i think the only thing thats actually stopping linux on the desktop for most people (i.e not power users) is the fact that they can't get alot of the commercial products/support06:20
oshAnd it appears to crash for me. :-/06:20
Tm_Tosh: you know, there's reason why mouse have multiple buttons ;)06:20
pussfellerin this context, i mean getting opengl to work06:20
_jimthoreauputic: which is hard to actually fix from a distro point of view06:21
thoreauputic_jim: that and the fact that it isn't pre-installed06:21
IIIEarsassuming the dri setting isn't used what should the other settings be?06:21
oshTm_T: Bah. Mice is a pest that should be eradicated.... :-)06:21
Tm_Thaha06:21
pussfellermost common users rarely resort to commerical support06:21
thoreauputic_jim: people still need a linux geek to say "have you tried streamtuner/ frozen-bubble/ foo ? "06:22
_jimthoreauputic: i guess...but like, i was going to do this for a friend too...she was all keen and then she said..well  i need myob for accounts...06:22
IIIEarslol06:22
IIIEarsfrozen bubble? - hmm - wide grin06:22
thoreauputic_jim: yes, that can be a problem 06:22
Tm_Tit's great =)06:22
_jimthoreauputic: i mean...if you have a linux geek, of which there are a few now..you can get it installed and to be honest..linux doesn't break that much06:23
oshTm_T: Mplayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio06:23
IIIEarsmondo - will back it up if it does06:23
_jimthoreauputic: but if the applications aren't there...then what can you do...there is a whole world of trouble free computing they can't access..06:23
_jimits not just a linux thing either...macs have that problem..though to a lesser extent06:23
oshTm_T: Mplayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/FPU/RAM. Recompile MPlayer with --enable-debug and make a gdb backtrace and disassembly.06:23
IIIEarsIf there are enough users developers will find them06:24
thoreauputic_jim: this is gradually changing, but it will take a while06:24
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Tm_Tosh: try Kplayer or oKle06:24
_jimthoreauputic: well yeh, thats my point..there is_nothing a distro can really do..linux is ready for the desktop in terms of what a distro can actually provide06:25
thoreauputicthere's a catch 22 " there isn't enough demand" but if they don't make the software no one can increase the demand...06:25
IIIEarsthe real trouble is gamers push the a big chunk of the market. - new hardware06:26
ChoubakaFrozen Bubble.06:26
ChoubakaThat game is pure evil in all its addictiveness.06:26
thoreauputic3 cheers for frozen bubble !06:27
IIIEarsand Doom 306:27
ChoubakaDoom3 can not even compare.06:27
ChoubakaMy entire family plays frozen bubble06:27
Choubakaand they're all addicts.06:27
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thoreauputicpingud is cute :D06:27
thoreauputic*pingus06:27
IIIEars<< XScrabble :)06:28
thoreauputicIIIEars: is Xscrabble in the repos?06:28
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IIIEarsnah but alien fixed it. - copyright trouble - gentoo ignores it.06:28
IIIEarsI think it was gentoo's repo06:29
thoreauputicIIIEars: where did you get yours?06:29
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IIIEarsI think it was gentoo's repo06:29
thoreauputichmm OK06:29
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IIIEarsany hints for setting up a $198 video card with no accel?06:31
IIIEarser $1.9806:31
IIIEarsgotta love those OEM machines.06:32
Tm_Teh?06:32
IIIEarsMy wife needs kubuntu :)06:32
IIIEars640x480 won't make her smile06:33
oshogle_nav: vm.c:1241: play_PGC_post: Assertion `state.pgc->next_pgc_nr != 0' failed.06:33
Tm_TIIIEars: haha06:33
IIIEarsshould i try dri with framebuffer?06:34
Tm_Tsure06:34
IIIEarsOkay.06:34
IIIEarsframebuffer everytime for LCD display?06:34
IIIEarsback in a blit er blit i mean with 24 bit color.06:36
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_trontes06:52
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osherr... installing java on kubuntu? I've done the "fakeroot make-jpkg jre.bin" but I don't get a .deb-file as a result. :-(06:58
thoreauputicosh: you need the sun jre  bin file first, of course06:59
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thoreauputicosh: in case that's your problem...06:59
Tm_Tehh07:00
Tm_T=)07:00
oshthoreauputic: I've got that one, and I've installed java-package07:00
thoreauputicosh: OK07:00
oshhttp://pastebin.com/29131807:03
thoreauputicosh: erm.. don't you have to use the full filename? as in jre <tab> ?07:05
oshthoreauputic: My bad. I've managed to mangle the name of the file while moving it and didn't think it'd matter. When moving the original file it just worked. I found this out right now.07:07
oshthoreauputic: It's building now.07:08
thoreauputic:)07:08
oshAnnoying wouldn't you say?07:08
oshInstalling it now. Let's just hope it works.. =)07:09
thoreauputicYou might say so - I couldn't possibly comment ;-)07:09
oshSUCCESS! 07:10
oshIt works. It's a bit more work than a normal "sudo apt-get install java5" but atleast it works now.07:11
oshthoreauputic: You're one of the kubuntu devels?07:11
thoreauputicno07:11
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Tm_Theh07:12
thoreauputicI just hang around a lot:)07:12
Tm_TI never just hang around07:12
oshIs there a kubuntu devel around here or is this channel just for us "users"?07:12
Tm_Toh yes here is07:12
thoreauputicosh: Riddell makes an appearnce regularly07:12
thoreauputic*appearance07:12
Tm_Tand \sh 07:13
Tm_Tand some others07:13
oshAnd how free is kubuntu? Free as in debian or free as in Mandriva? 07:13
thoreauputicTm_T: "Tm_T I never just hang around" -> I've been known to help people occsionally ;-)07:14
thoreauputicosh:  free as in debian07:14
Tm_TI never help ] ;=07:14
Tm_Tosh: free07:14
Riddellthoreauputic: who?  me?07:15
Tm_T=)07:15
thoreauputicRiddell: spaeak of the Devil :)07:15
Tm_TRiddell: nothing to you, go away07:15
Tm_T;--P07:15
Riddellrighty ho, I know my place07:15
=== osh thinks kubuntu is a great distro but there are some things that needs to be ironed out. Perhaps my installation is fsck'ed up but I find it annoying that my DVD doesn't work and some other small issues. Perhaps I should get that bugzilla.ubuntu.org-account now... ;-)
Tm_Tosh: hmm, my dvd:s work very well07:16
Riddellosh: what doesn't work about it?07:16
thoreauputicRiddell: yes, be suitably humble ;-)07:16
thoreauputicRiddell: things like java won't install when you get the filename wrong, and Kubuntu doesn't magically guess it for you ;)07:17
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Riddelljava is non-free which makes it difficult to package sensibly07:18
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thoreauputicRiddell: it was a joke at osh's expense, actually :)07:19
Riddellwell it's an interesting point, we should have a graphical installer that just does the right thing for evil proprietry stuff like java/real/flash07:19
thoreauputicRiddell: that would be nice, yeah07:20
thoreauputicRiddell: realplay is rubbish anyway, as far as I can tell07:20
oshRiddell: The problem with I have with dvd is that kaffeine won't play it but gives an error-msg, okle just refuses to play or say anything, and mplayer crashes. It works well in my old mandrake-installation in my basement so I figure it's got to be a kubuntu issue.07:20
thoreauputicRiddell: it only works for about half the formatsit claims to07:20
Riddellosh: do you have libdvdcss installed?07:21
Blissexosh: perhaps you want to have a look at the versions in the marillat repository. Do a search...07:21
oshRiddell: I do. Same version on both machines I believe.07:21
Riddellwhat's the error message from kaffeine07:21
oshRiddell: I think I've removed the marillat-repos because of some other error. thoreauputic helped me with that. Let me just reenable them and install kaffeine and I'll tell you the error.07:22
thoreauputicosh: i wouldn't if I were you07:23
oshthoreauputic: No?07:23
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thoreauputicosh: the marillat repos are debian repos and cause a lot of conflicts with ubuntu07:24
thoreauputicosh: I see it almost daily07:24
thoreauputicosh: OK for getting codecs, but disable them afterwards07:24
thoreauputicI use xine anyway: works well for me07:25
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oshthoreauputic: Ok. I'll have that in mind. I think kaffeine is based on xine btw.07:26
thoreauputicosh: correct :)07:26
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thoreauputicosh: for some reason I find xine-ui is more reliable than totem-xine, kaffeine, or xfmedia, even though they all use the xine backend07:27
pvSad thing that xine-ui frontend is so bad...07:29
pvUsing X11 as a toolkit is not very nice.07:29
oshthoreauputic: Riddell: For some reason things just started to work now. I think. I've got picture and sound running. 07:29
thoreauputicpv: it's OK if you get a nice skin (although the menus still suck)07:29
oshThanks for being patient with me.07:29
Riddellosh: he he, always the way 07:29
thoreauputicosh: glad to hear it's working for you07:30
oshHmm, perhaps I spoke too soon. It's a bit "jumpy". Still. It's a big improvement. I'll see if I can see what's taking so much cpu.07:32
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thoreauputicosh:  you have dma enabled on the DVD drive?07:32
oshthoreauputic: probably not.07:34
thoreauputicosh: check that- makes a big difference07:34
thoreauputichdparm07:34
thoreauputiclike: sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd (or whatever your device is, like /dev/hdc)07:35
thoreauputicand put in a an entry for it it /etc/hdparm.conf07:36
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oshthoreauputic: It worked perfectly. Thanks.07:39
thoreauputicosh: great :)07:39
thoreauputicosh: make sure you have an entry in /etc/hdparm.conf so it will load on boot07:40
gdhAnother happy customer :) 07:40
thoreauputicwe aim to please... *g*07:41
gdhthoreauputic: Here's something you might be able to use your magic fix0r powers on :) If I choose 'Administrator mode' in anything in kcontrol, rather than showing me the same controls again, it shows me the information screen "Welcome to the "KDE Control Centre"," with KDE version / hostname / kernel version etc.07:43
gdheven happens across reboots :)07:43
thoreauputicgdh: known issue (bug) use sudo kcontrol from a terminal07:43
gdhOoh excellent- am glad it's not just a weirdy on my system alone07:44
thoreauputicgdh: this is also regularly reported on the mailing list and in #kubuntu07:44
gdhyou have majik tekn1q ;)07:44
gdhI've not been on here much recently and am not subbed to the list.07:44
gdhI have enough list mail already...07:45
gdhasterisk-users makes sure of that07:45
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Tm_Thmh, why not "kdesu kcontrol"07:46
thoreauputicTm_T: yes, that would be fine I guess07:46
Tm_TI heard sudo causes problems with some fraphical progs07:46
Tm_Tg07:46
thoreauputicTm_T: k3b in particular, it seems07:46
thoreauputic.ICEauthority gets confused07:46
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_stealthhey guys, anyone know of a nice program to record video for Kubuntu?07:50
_stealthsomething like camtasia studio or fraps07:51
_stealthto record ur desktop07:51
Tm_Thm07:53
gdhdamnit someone sent me a link for that recently07:53
gdhconverts a VNC session to a .swf07:53
Curaltonthere is a program to make a flash animation from the vnc output 07:53
Curaltonyeh :)07:53
gdhhttp://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/07:54
gdh_stealth: So, combine that with KDE's built-in VNC-based 'desktop sharing'07:54
gdhand you have a solution :)07:54
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_stealthinteresting07:55
_stealthso i would need to recod it from another comp?07:55
_stealthor just start a vnc session?07:56
gdhPossibly not.. 07:56
gdhI think it only connects to the VNC server in watch-only mode07:56
gdhkrfb shouldn't have a problem with that07:56
_stealthcould u connect to urself in vnc?07:57
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pvWhy not?07:57
gdhThe vnc2swf software will be able to, I'm sure. Only KDE's own 'krdc' will likely complain if you try to open localhost:007:57
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GuS-ArgHelou!08:24
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oshwhat dvd-ripping package would you suggest? dvdrip? acidrip?  drip? I'd like something rather automatic.08:38
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Tm_Thmh, why servers allow root to connect08:43
Tm_Tand I mean root users here08:43
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Aladdin--hi all08:58
oshhi08:58
Aladdin--Now nothing is as beautiful as a K desk.  I'm home. This Ubuntu project is great.08:58
Aladdin--osh, hi dude08:59
Aladdin--osh, I got a brand new install o' Kubuntu.08:59
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oshAladdin--: Me too. Sort of. =)08:59
Aladdin--osh, why sort of?09:00
oshI've had it for a few weeks. That's sort of "new" isnt' it?09:01
Aladdin--osh, oh ok :)09:01
Aladdin--osh, I,ve reinstalled it a couple of time.  laast setup I had an http serveeeer running, cool, with php and mysql and a Mambo CMS.  09:02
RiddellAladdin--: congratulations09:02
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Aladdin--Riddell, hi09:03
Aladdin--now I'm going to learn Pure-Ftpd. It's got a graphical interface and all the trimmings: ratio, virtual servers, virtual users...09:04
Aladdin--but hey, THE thing is mplayer. Playing an ISO file, hehe, cool!09:06
Aladdin--OK now anybody:  I got a BUG using Kaffeine.  The process hangs and I have to manually shut it off.  Anyone know about this?09:08
TezkahI think that is a known issue09:09
oshAladdin--: Yep. Known issue.09:09
Aladdin--Tezkah, good. any improvment ahead?09:09
SlicerDicer-what do you guys use to play DVD's09:09
oshAladdin--: I think adding this and upgrading fixes it. deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main09:10
Aladdin--sladen, mplayer09:10
oshAladdin--: Kaffeine.09:10
Aladdin--osh, oh OK cool thx alot!09:10
oshSlicerDicer-: Kaffeine is what I use for my DVD. I just got it to work a few hours (1-2) ago though. thoreauputic and Riddell helped me with it.09:11
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oshIs there a GUI-tool for ripping dvd's? I have a lot of Buffy DVD's to rip and don't want to spend a lot of time configuring and doing that kind of job. I just want to slot it in and press "Rip".09:13
SlicerDicer-hm well it cant read my dvd09:13
oshSlicerDicer-: What's your /dev/dvd linked to and is the player configured to use /dev/dvd?09:13
Tezkaharrgh 20kbps09:13
SlicerDicer-osh, /dev/cdrom09:14
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oshSlicerDicer-: and what's /dev/cdrom linked to?09:14
SlicerDicer-eh? /dev/cdrom is where the dvd is09:15
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oshSlicerDicer-: and which of the two questions were you answering? :-)09:15
SlicerDicer-I dont know what you wnat09:15
SlicerDicer-its reading the dvd and sees it09:15
SlicerDicer-thats not the problem09:15
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oshSlicerDicer-: and you've got libdecss installed?09:16
SlicerDicer-The source can't be read.09:16
SlicerDicer-Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD.)09:16
x2peistuwho could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu?09:16
SlicerDicer-does not exist in synaptic09:16
x2peistulike mp3player...........or elsse09:16
oshSlicerDicer-: exactly the same error I got. Hang on. I'll check what the decss program is called.09:17
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x2peistuwho could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu?09:18
x2peistulike mp3player...........or elsse09:18
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Tezkahx2peistu: try amaroK for mp3s09:19
Tezkahor xmms, if you want something lighter09:19
oshSlicerDicer-: perhaps it's the libdvdcss2 or libdvdread3. 09:19
x2peistui want something 3D09:19
x2peistucould u help me?09:19
SlicerDicer-ok09:20
Aladdin--osh, I've applied the updates you mentionned.  The change is phenomenal.  I get 20% cpu use while watching a movie, and nothing @reserved@ to the system.  And it doesn't hang in the memory anymore.  THX alot.  That was a good info.09:21
SlicerDicer-nope osh 09:21
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oshAladdin--: glad to be of service. =)09:22
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oshSlicerDicer-: what's the error?09:22
SlicerDicer-screw it I will just play itin my mac lol09:23
x2peistuwho could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu? like mp3 player (full 3D)09:23
SlicerDicer-this is a 64bit computer thats more than likely why09:23
x2peistuwho could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu? like mp3 player (full 3D)09:23
oshSlicerDicer-: Ahh. AMD64? That explains a lot. Then you'll need a chroot.09:24
x2peistupls09:24
oshSlicerDicer-: I got it to work on my amd but only through chroot.09:24
x2peistuwho could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu? like mp3 player (full 3D)09:24
oshx2peistu: amaroK isn't good enough for you? 09:25
x2peistunop09:25
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x2peistuosh: do u got something else for me?09:26
SlicerDicer-osh, nah no need for Chroot I will just kludge it09:26
gdhx2peistu: If you keep repeating the same question you'll get kicked.09:26
gdhWhat the hell has 3D got to do with an mp3 player, anyway?09:26
SlicerDicer-osh, I just dont have the patience right now09:26
oshx2peistu: sorry. I don't have the same requirements as you do. If it works it's good enough for me. =)09:26
x2peistui whant that all to be 3d09:27
oshSlicerDicer-: Ok. From what I gather it's just that most codecs don't do 64-bit yet.09:27
SlicerDicer-osh, I had dvds working in gentoo with full 64bit its possible :)09:27
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SlicerDicer-osh, its .mov and .wmv that I have a hell of a time with09:28
oshSlicerDicer-: I can imagine. The chroot I had to do to play avi/mpeg/wmv things. I just assumed that dvd's were the same.09:29
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SlicerDicer-osh, nah I had mpg working I just did not bother with wmv or mov those were the only 2 busted09:35
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oshSlicerDicer-: I had some mpegs working. Not all of them oddly enough. And no avi's. On this 32-bit machine it works though.09:37
Tezkahokay I am going back to KDE09:39
TezkahI miss it too much09:39
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SlicerDicer-hmm strange osh 09:39
miklkde is your friend09:40
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Tezkahoh Plastik09:40
Tezkahhow I've missed you09:40
mezhmm09:41
mezwhy do my apps like, Firefox look soooo crappy under KDE09:41
oshmez: gtk depenancies09:45
mezso how do i fix them09:45
mezthey look sucky09:46
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mezI got told09:46
mezInstall gtk2-engines-gtk-qt and Gaim will look normal w00t.gif 09:46
oshtheme firefox or rebuild it and send to kubuntu.org. ;-)09:46
mezbut that didnt work09:46
_Church_Of_Foameanyone know how to delete a file with .<filename>?09:47
mezosh, mind if I PM you?09:47
mezquery *09:47
osh_Church_Of_Foame: rm .filename09:47
_Church_Of_Foameok09:47
oshmez: Why not take it in the channel. Perhaps someone else can help too?09:48
mezwell09:48
mezI was going to send you a screenshot of what I mean by it looks crap09:48
_Church_Of_Foameit won't remove it because it's a directory any other options?09:48
oshmez: Ok. Send it. I do think I've seen it though. I use firefox too and it looks "gnomish".09:49
mezIt doesnt even look gnomish09:49
osh_Church_Of_Foame: then try rm -r .filename09:49
mezit looks like it's just... built... crappily09:49
_Church_Of_Foameok thanx09:49
osh_Church_Of_Foame: but that's deleting a directory.09:49
mezsending osh09:50
mezaccept09:50
miklis it just me, or is http://www.konversation.org/ not working?09:50
oshHmm, doesn't seem to work. perhaps my firewall is too strict...09:51
gdhDCC CHAT? How quaint :)09:51
oshI don't feel like opening that up though. Isnt' there a pastebin or something that can be used to show screenshots?09:51
mez*Shrugs*09:52
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oshmikl: I can't get it either.09:52
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mezhttp://mezzle.info/snapshot6.jpg09:53
oshmez: what am I looking for?09:55
oshmez: looks similar to my firefox...09:55
mezlook at the difference between konqueror and firefox...09:55
mezoh god09:55
mezyou mean I'm stuck with it looking that crappy :(09:56
oshI think so. Unless you can put a theme on firefox. There something called plastik-something that's quite good they say.09:56
oshI assume that this is how a gtk-app looks under kde.09:57
mezI thought they'd at least look a LITTLE better09:59
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mezerm09:59
mezquick Q09:59
mezhow do i install verdana etc etc fonts09:59
oshsorry, can't help you there.10:03
meznvm, found help in #ubuntu10:04
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phxguycan someone help me with my icons. None of them display for some reason10:05
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phxguycan't anybody help me out?10:10
ilbahrwhat do you need ph10:10
phxguynone of my icons are showing up anywhere.... not even in my kicker panel10:11
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ilbahrsorry do not know what could cause that10:12
phxguywhats wierd is if i open konqueror as root the icons are there10:12
phxguyso i think it may be a permissions issue but then i checked the permission on the icons folders and it seems okay10:13
ilbahryou should not see icons on desktop but in task bar you should10:13
ilbahrtry adding new user and log in with this user name10:14
ilbahrthen copy the directory ./kde it might just be a mistake when the default was copied from etc10:14
Tezkahryan@averatux:~$ touch /dev/genitalia10:15
Tezkahtouch: cannot touch `/dev/genitalia': Permission denied10:15
Tezkah=\10:15
JeezisTezkah: don't you just hate it when that happens =P10:20
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oshI can't install transcode. Anyone got an idea on how to fix that?10:47
oshActually I couldn't care less about transcode but I need it for the dvdrip-package. ;-)10:47
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phxguyhow do i enable root login from kdm?10:48
gdhosh: you need the marillat deb repositories10:48
gdhdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main10:48
gdhadd the 'testing' and 'stable' ones too :)10:48
oshI've tried with and without the marillat repos but it won't install anyway. 10:48
gdhsince some packages aren't in all 310:48
oshI've got stable/unstable/testing in sources.list.10:50
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phxguyanybody???10:50
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gdhphxguy: You don't. Get over it.10:50
phxguygdh think again10:50
gdhjust use 'sudo' when you need to run a command with root privs10:51
phxguyive had it enabled before10:51
oshgdh: Any help appreciated.10:51
oshphxguy: why would you want root to be able to login?10:51
phxguyi just dont remeber where i did it at10:51
phxguybecause my usual login is screwed up10:51
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phxguyand i need to do some things under root10:52
gdhosh: Hm. I see what you mean... libavcodeccvs uninstallable.10:52
gdhosh: this is directlly because marillat's for Debian not ubuntu :/10:52
oshphxguy: why not do a normal login from ctrl-alt-f1 and fix it from there?10:52
gdhlibc6 version dependency of 2.3.2.ds1-21 not 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 etc.10:52
phxguywell as I said my usual login is hosed10:52
oshphxguy: Sorry, I didn't mean normal login, I meant root login from ctrl-alt-f110:53
oshgdh: is there a way to fix it. I'd really like to be able to use dvdrip.10:53
oshphxguy: you should be able to do that.10:54
phxguyI see im gonna get nowhere10:54
gdhosh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=548&page=310:54
uniqphxguy: reboot and pass init=/bin/sh to the kernel. do your root stuff and fix your account. (make sure your account is in the admin group (check: 'id username' add: 'adduser username admin')10:54
gdhI googled for 'transcode ubuntu' :)10:54
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uniqgah.. he left.10:54
gdhosh: Eek I wouldn't want to follow that.. it's reccomending to install a debian libc6 :/10:56
gdhosh: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdrip10:57
oshgdh: Ok. I won't10:57
kayCan anybody help me cure my keyboard layout on Breezy?10:57
kayIt seems utterly broken now10:58
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kayIt is e.g. like alt is no longer a meta key10:59
kayAnd tab seems to be a key with no name?!10:59
lonewolffdoes anyone know what cause i/o errors when burning dvd's in k3b? i have managed to ruin 3 discs today and only write 2 sucessfully11:03
gdhkay: Few of us are mad enough to use breezy yet :)11:04
kaywell, i am11:04
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kayit runs quite ok now, except KDE being incomplete and Xorg breaks keys11:14
kayAnd I needed a lot of handword to get Xorg to run at all11:14
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_Church_Of_Foamewhere would the error messages for wine be located?11:17
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mez_osh, you still here?11:33
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gdhMez: Where's "perr" in the UK?11:34
gdhgosh, must've been a personal question :)11:35
lonewolffgdh: ive never heard of that, sure its the correct spelling?11:35
gdhlonewolff:  (~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk)11:35
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gdhcouldn't think of a name that could be shortened to 'perr'11:35
lonewolffme either ...11:36
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lonewolffgdh: perr.blueyonder.co.uk appears to be bradford area, but that weird11:38
=== lonewolff just ruined another dvd
transgressHOW?11:39
transgresserr11:39
transgresshow?11:39
lonewolfftrying to wrote dvd with k3b have done 3 successfully and the last 4 have given me an i/o error11:39
transgresshmm11:39
transgresssucks11:39
transgressi have had good luck with it so far11:39
lonewolffwell everything was fine earlier11:40
lonewolffbut i dont know whats going on now11:40
lonewolffits always when it gets to the same part as well, on more tha one different file11:40
lonewolffjust over the 3gb mark and it dies11:40
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lonewolffim gonna try a different make of disc11:45
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gdhlonewolff: can you not get k3b to show you the verbose output from 'cdrecord'?12:00
gdhthat might give a better clue than "didn't work"12:00
gdhmost of the problem with these things is they're just pretty frontends to shove an .iso into cdrecord 12:00
gdhso there's no real integration at all12:00
lonewolffgdh: i am just trying another brand of disc atm to check its not the cheap discs12:01

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