[12:04] uniq: my sudoers file: http://www.philipandjenny.com/wp-content/sudoers.txt [12:05] seems to have fixed KControl Admin Mode bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681 [12:06] philipacamaniac: what if you remove the last line.. and keep the #fix.. line. [12:06] does it still work? [12:07] the #fix line is just a comment I made to myself in case I needed to change something [12:07] i know. [12:07] oic [12:07] Let me try... [12:09] Now it sticks on the "Loading..." screen after pressing Administrator Mode [12:09] hmm.. very strange. [12:09] i know [12:10] i went back to ubuntu, kubuntu just seemed too buggy to me. it has great potential though, i'm excited to see where it goes [12:11] nate__: I actually agree with you but I just can't stand gnome. I'm sticking with kubuntu. It's the best distro I've found. [12:12] osh, i agree that the ubuntu core is the best distro i've ever found, but i can't stand bugginess. Even though gnome isn't as pretty, i value function over form [12:12] kde is so much prettier [12:12] There's a bugzilla.kubuntu.org somewhere where I can file bugs I assume so I'll do that "real soon now(tm)". [12:13] unless you use the macOSX theme for gnome, then gnome isn't nearly as ugly [12:14] osh: you file bugs for kubuntu on the ubuntu bugzilla. [12:15] I don't think gnome is ugly. I just feel "trapped" when running it. A matter of preference I think. [12:15] uniq: Ok. Thanks for the info. === yorick [~yorick@156.Red-81-38-145.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === _ali [~ali@adsl-66-249-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #kubuntu [12:16] hi [12:16] uniq: Well, great... I reverted back to my previous sudoers file (with system_username), and now I'm not asked for a password... but admin mode works. [12:16] <_ali> hello there [12:17] philipacamaniac: just wait a while and try again.. sudo has this time-limit thing. [12:18] That's right. I've got to go, but I'm going to try this on my home machine later tonight. I'll post results at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=189606 [12:18] philipacamaniac: or do a sudo -k which will kill the timer. It's -k or -K. Sligtly different but does basically the same thing. [12:18] I'll try that real quick [12:19] No change... I can access all admin functions in KControl without a password... whoops [12:20] However, opening another app (kynaptic) does ask for the kdesu password [12:20] what does the sudoers file look like? Can you pastebin it? I've been parsing a lot of those at work lately. [12:20] http://www.philipandjenny.com/wp-content/sudoers.txt [12:21] I have to go, but I'll be on later, and I'll post results to that forums thread [12:21] see ya [12:21] try a sudo -K [12:22] not much info in that sudoers file. [12:22] its the default [12:22] minus the new line === osh nods [12:23] And it doesn't reveal anything about kcontrol. [12:23] Go and do your stuff. I'll be here tomorrow too I think. If you haven't solved it by then. [12:23] thanks..adios === philipacamaniac [~phliipaca@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has left #kubuntu [] === kman____ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === mactiny [opera@nps-ip-nas-1-p203.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #kubuntu === mactiny [opera@nps-ip-nas-1-p203.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has left #kubuntu [] === Morandir [~Morandir@mn-10k-dhcp1-5425.dsl.hickorytech.net] has joined #kubuntu === iepa [~Iepa@85.84.127.10] has joined #kubuntu [12:30] anyone around? [12:30] is me here [12:30] but I think I can't help you [12:30] I'm Ubuntu user, not KUbuntu User [12:31] bummer [12:31] i'm here. [12:31] shouldnt matter too much what platform [12:31] so am i [12:31] any way [12:31] I set up my forward and back mouse buttons... [12:31] got it working [12:31] then got fglrx driver for my video [12:31] and my mouse went back to retardation mode [12:32] I've tried everything on the forums... [12:32] you ran fglrxconfig or something? :) [12:32] dont that [12:32] then redid the mouse process [12:32] ok.. [12:32] all the imwheel/xmodmap/.imwheelrc files are right [12:32] what is the KDE default theme on install? === SnakeBite [~SnakeBite@84.242.143.75] has joined #kubuntu [12:33] imwheel runs on startup but is retarded, but if I killall imwheel and then run it again.... IT WORKS! >_< [12:33] so Im at a loss [12:34] any suggestions anyone? [12:35] is this in a game, or something? [12:35] no [12:35] this is everywhere [12:35] uggghhh, after running apt-get upgrade, my stupid KDE style relapsed [12:35] a forward and back mouse button? [12:35] yep [12:35] do you have a special mouse, or something? [12:36] (bear with me, my memory with mice is foggy, as I don't use one) [12:36] just an explorerPS/2 [12:36] can you do me a favor? [12:37] can you tell me the stuff in your KDE theme? or is it nonstandard? [12:37] errr, nevermind, I'll get a new one anyways [12:37] an intellimouse? [12:38] just hit the default button in control center theme manager [12:38] "Explorer" is a pretty generic Microsoft mouse name, as I can gather [12:38] intellimouse yes [12:38] Morandir: I don't think it'll work, but i'll see [12:38] it looks like its "KDE-Classic" [12:39] Morandir: breezy? [12:39] kubuntu [12:39] 2.6.10-5-386 [12:39] well, i'll just get another theme anyways... [12:40] Morandir: that's only the kernel version ;) [12:40] so, does this mouse have any special buttons, or such? [12:40] or just the standrd 2? [12:40] Razor-X: you try to get a 5button mouse to work? [12:40] left, right, middle, wheel (up and down) and forward and back [12:40] exactly 5 button wheel mouse [12:41] and I had it working === iepa [~Iepa@85.84.127.10] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:41] and if I kill imwheel and restart it, it works [12:41] ..but? [12:41] but it doesnt work on startup [12:42] and its really annoying to have to kill/run an ap every time kde loads [12:42] maybe, you want to create a startup script that kills imwheel and restarts it [12:42] thats what Im considering [12:42] I know my trackball works superb in USB [12:42] it should be started after kde starts === gdh [~gdh@80-192-144-33.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [12:42] for example from a script in ~/.kde/Autostart :) [12:43] just make an imwheel.sh in that folder then? [12:43] boy that seems lame, but I guess [12:44] and make it executable [12:44] and that is done how? [12:44] chmod 777? [12:44] or something else? [12:44] chmod a+x === Kite- [~santa@ma-rockland-cuda1c-138.albyny.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] is there any gui to mod the start up apps? b/c I'd like to add some apps on startup... [12:46] anyone know what i have to apt-get to instally pygtk/pygtk2? [12:46] *install [12:47] kite: did you update apt-get? [12:47] yeah [12:47] 2nd: might need to add repositories [12:48] tried that, from the unofficial ubuntu guide [12:48] check you /etc/apt/sources.list === snowseal [~snowseal@adsl-dc-2dd1a.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [12:48] hrmmm [12:48] then I dont know [12:48] is there a good place that has a list of apt-get stuff? [12:48] apt-get.org? :) === Kite- feels like an ass [12:49] kite: apt-cache search pygtk? === mpathy [~Markus@reverse-82-141-58-174.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:50] WINNAR [12:50] thank you [12:51] winnar? [12:51] winner [12:51] i found it with that === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [12:51] you found pygtk? [12:52] yeah, its python-gtk2 [12:52] ahh, good. === SnakeBite [~SnakeBite@84.242.143.75] has left #kubuntu [""] [12:53] there's a text-based frontent for apt called aptitude. perhaps try that? with aptitude you can do all the searching and installing and stuff. really neat. [12:54] cool, ill check it out === dnakata shakes his booty [12:55] the trick, you see, is to retain an otherwise rigid body while bootyshaking. [12:55] lean forward slightly, fists together and arms extended halfway [12:55] and swing your rump! [12:56] I see. [12:56] [12:56] try to make a W shape with it. once mastered, you may safely attempt the (highly difficult) M motion [12:57] if you are new to the art of bootyshaking, you may opt to start with a simple U shape [12:57] back [12:57] anyone know the location of kmix executeable? [12:57] kdemultimedia, still [12:57] oh === dnakata = dumby [12:57] Morandir: locate kmix [12:57] which kmix [12:57] /usr/bin/kmix [12:58] yep that [12:59] th [12:59] x [12:59] +an -x +ks [12:59] t h a n k s [12:59] no no no [12:59] yes [12:59] when expressing gratitude, being lazy suggests a lack of gratitude [12:59] a negation of the demonstration entirely [01:00] how can I go back to using the KDE theme that came with Kubuntu [01:00] after running an apt-get install... it seems to have lost the theme [01:00] rm ~/.kde :D [01:00] but your settings are entirely reset [01:00] (for everything) [01:00] errm... *cough* maybe I shoulda thought a bit harder... [01:00] but when you have your internet text script activated that takes all words such as t h a n k s and dynamically switches them to thx there isnt much you can do [01:01] any other way without removing all settings? [01:01] Razor-X: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old ? [01:02] I was thinking of doing that, to preserve my old settings... but... [01:02] any other other way...? [01:02] Razor-X: should be easy enough to put back if the new settings doesn't do anything for you. [01:07] nothing happened [01:07] can anyone export the default KDE settings? or must I hunt for a new theme? [01:08] Razor-X: you have to restart kde for that, it still uses the settings and probably rewrites them partially [01:08] I did [01:08] because, I realize that [01:08] *realized === brdweb|AFK is back. === brdweb|AFK is now known as brdweb === chx [~chx@chx.user] has joined #kubuntu === mpathy [~Markus@reverse-82-141-58-174.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has left #kubuntu [] [01:19] hi. I need a simple app so I can say: here is this MP3 , cut off the first 300 seconds and give me the rest. CLI would be best... === mpathy_ [~markus@reverse-82-141-58-174.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] Hi.. I've got a problem with Kubuntu.. What happens just before hotplug starts at the boot sequence? [01:20] I mean, after, sorry.. Because it hangs there [01:20] chx: unfortunately, in my experience, no CLI tool like that exists [01:20] chx: if it's a constant bitrate, you can just use 'dd' to chop off the first N bytes :) [01:20] but, you can use Audacity, an audio editor [01:21] oh, you can? [01:21] o_O [01:21] gdh: alas not [01:21] no? Ah well :) [01:21] Audacity... hm I am just a very stupid lame user. OK stop this idiocy, I am using Linux since 0.99pl15 sure I can tackle Audacity :) [01:22] mpathy_: Have a look in /etc/rcX.d/ where X=[2,3,5] . Find hotplug there and you'll see what starts right before it. [01:22] somebody can help me? is there somewhere a list who shows what happens before and after hotplug on boot? [01:22] chx: heh, it's nothing difficult ;) [01:22] osh: thx [01:22] Hmmm tryin' Audacity [01:23] mpathy_: It sais somethign like S44hotplug. S=start and 44 is the order. it starts from 1 and goes up to 99 i think. [01:24] it was Rosegarden I have tried before and run away screaming... [01:24] osh: but you dont know any known problems that it hangs up? I removed PCIEHP or something like this, because this was a error who was showed.. [01:32] mpathy_: PCMCIA? [01:33] mpathy_: generally I wouldn't suggest just removing things that gives you an error... ;-) [01:34] everyone gets errors from those PCI hotplug drivers [01:34] I doubt too many Kubuntu users run a hot-plug PCI server === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-69-3-239-159.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [01:36] is there any trick to getting a wireless laptop on to a linksys network? [01:36] Yes, Audacity was simple. Thanks. For the archives: Rosegarden is not simple :) [01:37] night all! and thanks. === chx [~chx@chx.user] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === philipacamaniac [~philip@ip68-228-49-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mestapheles [~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === cetex [uplink@cetex.campus.luth.se] has joined #kubuntu === paxmaster [~paxmaster@ool-18baa274.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:49] how could i use debian brinary by using apt-get [01:49] by using the t option i think === philipacamaniac [~philip@ip68-228-49-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === Darthmora [~david@cm42250.red.mundo-r.com] has joined #kubuntu === Darthmora [~david@cm42250.red.mundo-r.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:53] osh: I checked it, right now it gives me now errors.. Mostly because it probably hangs up before outputting the error :) === andre [~andre@201-26-128-161.dial-up.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === selkie [~selkie@port-212-202-55-200.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] Hi. I have a keyboard with special keys (multimedia keys, etc). This keys does not have a keycode when i use xev. Is there a way to configure them === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [02:22] andre: try showkey from a console (not withing X) to see if the keys are noticed at all === carlox [~carlox@200.58.176.53] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] Curalton: I tried. But they are not noticed === _ali [~ali@adsl-66-249-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:30] then it might be a hardwareproblem [02:30] most keyboards work fine though, strnage [02:30] strnage* === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:31] Curalton: I have a friend with the same keyboard and with the same problem (he tried xeve, not showkey, AFAIK) === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu [02:38] anyone know off the top of their head how to get cedega to go to window mode (for warcraft3)? === hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:50] you mean how to get warcraft3 to go windowed mode [02:50] why don't you check on the warcraft3 website [02:56] hrmmm === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has left #kubuntu ["out"] [02:59] andre: what kb is it? logitechs should work fine [03:00] ugh... is there an apt-get for a macromedia flash player equivalent? [03:01] debian hat flashplugin-nonfree in contrib/ maybe it's somewhere in the ubuntu multiverse [03:01] jup, is [03:02] hrmm [03:03] apt-get install debian hat flashplugin-nonfree NOR apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [03:03] worked [03:03] s,hat,has, [03:06] ? === Morandir is lost now === N17R0 [~n17r0@amf-zlh-90d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [03:10] Curalton,KaiL: what do I ask apt-get to get for me? [03:10] erm, KaiL explain :) [03:11] apt get will only get what is in the currently used repositories [03:11] and the currents dont seem to have flashplayer [03:11] I have ubuntu universe added to source.llist [03:11] ahh [03:11] u wanna have flash player? [03:12] what was kail talking about then (jup, is)? [03:12] n17R0:yes [03:12] download from website [03:12] cant check strong bad without it [03:12] its not in apt-get [03:12] i installed it yesterday, it went smoothly [03:13] untar it where? [03:13] root? === reagleBRKLN [~reagleBRK@cpe-69-203-149-103.si.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:13] i untar it to /tmp [03:13] then ./install [03:13] i can't install juk [03:13] it needs libtunepimp-bin which fils [03:13] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libtunepimp/libtunepimp-bin_0.3.0-2ubuntu5_i386.deb Size mismatch [03:14] how do i fix that? [03:14] hmm juk comes already with kubuntu [03:16] reagleBRKLN: try downloading again. the error means the file had a different size than expected [03:17] N17R0, yes, but i had uninstalled it at some piont trying to get a working libtunepimp-bin [03:17] Curalton, what do you mean try downloading it again? I assure you, it no working. [03:18] N17R0: e.g., apt-build --reinstall install libtunepimp2 [03:18] hmm maybe just do: $ sudo apt-get install juk [03:18] ? [03:18] no, it complains about pimp [03:18] juk needs it as dep [03:18] hmm then i dunno [03:18] got it [03:18] thx N17R0 [03:18] np ;) [03:19] dnakata:Blizzard nor w3 itself had any command to go to window mode [03:21] reagleBRKLN: try apt-get update to refresh the local cache. [03:21] ahh well.... most is well in the world now at least [03:21] did that. [03:21] i found an old deb and dpkg installed it [03:22] wish i could find one (`trm`) that worked with mp3s [03:22] Curalton: My kd is a IBm Enhanced Performance USB keyboard. Do you know something about it? === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu [03:25] andre: sorry, no idea. === said [~said@adsl-18-195-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #kubuntu [03:39] w00t i just compiled my first prog on linux :D === jeramy [~jeramy@dsl-131-96.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu === _paxmaster [~paxmaster@ool-18baa274.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:50] Curalton: ok, thank you for tour help, anyway === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === brdweb [~brdweb@dsl092-173-023.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === nuopus [~nuopus@ip68-104-151-160.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] Does anyone know how to recursively remove ubuntu-desktop? [04:34] Want to get rid of all gnome software on one machine [04:37] something along "sudo apt-get --purge remove " [04:37] tricky part would be to find out what the packages are === marcelo [~marcelo@host198.e.digizap.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [04:38] Guys, please help! I don't understand the way my cdrom is "mounted". [04:40] when I try opening what is theoretically my cdrom device (media:/hdd/) I get a "malformed URL" message. [04:40] I don't even know where to start. === darkaudi1 [~bpack@pool-141-153-72-124.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === _thiago [~thiago@201-26-33-85.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === darkaudi1 is now known as darkaudit === bigkeith [~bigkeith@pool-141-158-63-114.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === D[a] vey [davey@davey.user] has joined #kubuntu === Morandir [~Morandir@mn-10k-dhcp1-5425.dsl.hickorytech.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:24] yep... [05:24] I should just move in here [05:26] Im looking to install ABC Bittorrent for linux and its all python files.. I apt-get for wxPython, but I have no idea how to install/build it. Ive tried Python abc.py like the forums say... Any suggestions? === D[a] vey [davey@davey.user] has left #kubuntu [] === tim_h [~Tim@p54A1B621.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === kkathman [~kkathman@h-69-3-74-243.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu === tim_h__ [~Tim@p54A1E13A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === sirk [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === sirk [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has left #kubuntu ["out"] === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === douglas [~douglas@dpc6745164251.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu === NothingButYou [~slimmer@slimmer.c0msys.net] has joined #kubuntu === nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === fallstorm [~matt@66-189-211-208.dhcp.elbg.wa.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.54] has joined #kubuntu === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Tezkah [~Tezkah@d137-186-160-50.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === ilbahr [~ilbahr@d141-76-237.home.cgocable.net] has joined #Kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === x2peistu [~x2peistu@86.126.33.186] has joined #kubuntu === siblur [~siblur@modemcable075.11-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [08:22] Yeah! got it working :) [08:24] for you, what's your reasons why you use kubuntu over ubuntu? === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-67-101-101-97.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === x2peistu [~x2peistu@86.126.33.186] has joined #kubuntu [08:32] <\sh> siblur: I'm using ubuntu with kubuntu ;) [08:33] <\sh> siblur: at least only the desktop enviroment is the difference. the basement is the same. [08:33] yes, i know. Do you see more bugs in your kubuntu in ubuntu ? ;) [08:34] <\sh> siblur: no [08:34] I'm using kubuntu because I don't have to DLoad KDE after installation... [08:34] what do like in kde that you cant find in gnome? [08:35] Konqueror, amarok, k3b, kaffeine and others... [08:36] and are you missing something from gnome? [08:38] no [08:38] inkscape works, GIMP too [08:38] :} [08:38] KDE is fast for me.. what should I miss.. :) [08:39] could anyone tell me how can i get some games for my kubuntu? [08:40] ???? === ikypakis [t14@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu [08:41] :) I run linux like 4 years ago and all the X things changed so much! and after test gnome and kde.. as like 4 years ago, kde is my best :P [08:42] ok [08:42] the GUI is much more confortable [08:42] =}}} === daughter [~daughter@200-206-184-159.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:54] ewww colours === SlicerDicer- [~Slicer@c-67-160-114-35.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-38-35.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _osh [~osh@81-231-230-175-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === spektr [~spektr@M902P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:42] the only comfortable GUI is afterstep [09:42] this is truth [09:46] by "truth" you mean "my opinion", yes? === Tezkah_ [~Tezkah@d137-186-160-50.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:49] or "false" [09:54] hehe === x2peistu [~x2peistu@86.126.33.186] has joined #kubuntu === swilry [~swirly@82.227.195.117] has joined #kubuntu === swilry [~swirly@82.227.195.117] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === martin [~martin@pc-62-30-33-77-pr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === martin [~martin@pc-62-30-33-77-pr.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:00] could anyone help me with the installation of dc++ [10:00] ???????? [10:00] pls [10:01] x2peistu: do you want it for KDE, or GNOME? [10:01] kde [10:01] sudo apt-get install dcgui-qt === ice_1963 [~gary@pcp02170939pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === marco [~marco@host96-144.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === runelind [~mattias@inte099048.halls.colostate.edu] has joined #kubuntu [10:16] why does guarddog require the kubuntu installer CD? === root [~root@86.126.59.130] has joined #kubuntu === root is now known as VyRuZ === thoreauputic [~peter@wolax9-069.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [~peter@wolax9-069.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] === ice_1963 [~gary@pcp02170939pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === _Church_Of_Foame [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === runelind [~mattias@inte099048.halls.colostate.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _Church_Of_Foame [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _Church_Of_Foame [~Foamey@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === swilry [~swirly@82.227.195.117] has joined #kubuntu === swilry [~swirly@82.227.195.117] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [10:56] <_Church_Of_Foame> whats the command to delete files? === daddy [~daddy@86.126.59.130] has joined #kubuntu === daddy is now known as VyRuZ === Gubbins [~mick@CPE-138-217-213-106.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:07] kj [11:07] urr..sorry, nevermind === spiral [~spiral@84.5.149.186] has joined #kubuntu [11:08] _Church_Of_Foame: eh? [11:11] anyone know of any sfv verificatyion software for kubuntu ?? === Gubbins [~mick@CPE-138-217-213-106.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:16] What package from the repository has "dialog" in it (text-based graphics) [11:16] I thought it would have come with bash === rmstar [~rmstar@61.95.133.170] has joined #kubuntu === mattricks [~mattricks@h14n1fls33o818.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === _mattricks [~mattricks@h14n1fls33o818.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === burgermann [~burgerman@0x3e42a174.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Tezkah [~Tezkah@d137-186-160-50.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:21] popguns === x2peistu [~x2peistu@86.126.33.186] has joined #kubuntu === flummox [~flummox@L1017P13.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu [11:38] is anyone who could help me with instalation of DC++ [11:38] pls [11:38] private me [11:39] ... [11:40] could anyone help me...........???????? [11:40] pls [11:40] i don t know how to install DC++ on kubuntu [11:41] help [11:41] pls === _danilo [~danilo@host58-0.pool8291.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] "how to no obtain an answer on irc, first lesson" [11:45] yup =) === SixOfThirteen [~michael@203.98.76.170] has joined #kubuntu [12:09] hey, if i dist-upgrade my hoary to breezy am i likely to hose my system? === ToutPT|ppc|fr [~toutpt@ANantes-151-1-19-143.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [12:15] hi [12:17] SixOfThirteen: well, breezy is broken, as usually [12:20] fair enough, i was hoping to get a kopete update with the msn-ssl thing fixed [12:21] topic? ;) [12:21] and first part of it === golanz [~golan@81-174-12-108.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === smt_ [~sashmit@user-112012r.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] are you implying kopete is now fixed? i don't see anything in the changelogs [12:25] is there a channel ppc ? [12:27] SixOfThirteen: I don't know, but I think there's fix [12:28] yeah, it works, cool :) [12:28] ok [12:28] is there a way to get the tabs somewhere other than the bottom in konversation? [12:28] don't use konvi, use irssi ;) [12:29] use kopete :P [12:29] xchat [12:29] use the force [12:29] ^^ [12:29] yuk [12:29] feel the force === sdogi [~sdogi@217-159-240-76-dsl.est.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] kopete for IRC? [12:29] I dunno [12:29] guys why $exec locale [12:29] how can i get past of that error what comes when upgrading [12:29] I like like XChat... but konversation ahs grwn on me [12:30] do my konsole crashes [12:30] kdelibs-data is trying to overwrite file inknetworkconf [12:30] sdogi: specify error [12:30] ah [12:30] i thought about using --force-yes with apt-get but not sure [12:30] sdogi: topic ;) [12:30] i'm using kopete for irc right now... it's fine [12:30] oh [12:31] SixOfThirteen: gui... [12:31] cool, thanks i'll check it out [12:31] =) [12:31] didn't know there is kubuntu.org already :) [12:32] Tm_T: yes, kde... hence kubuntu... not console-ubuntu :P [12:32] lol [12:32] toutpt@ToutPTppc:~$ whereis exec [12:32] exec: [12:32] sdogi: add "deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main" into your sources.list [12:32] SixOfThirteen: hey, I don't need gui to irc ;) [12:32] oh [12:32] SixOfThirteen: http://xob.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo_037.png [12:33] 153 packages held back - new personal record :) [12:33] haha [12:33] mikl: breezy? [12:33] Tm_T: yup :) [12:33] I knew it! [12:33] =) [12:33] you must love it [12:34] cya round like a froot loop === SixOfThirteen [~michael@203.98.76.170] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [12:35] Tm_T: It'll prolly be plenty fun when they get a few things sorted out - but until then ;) [12:35] haha [12:35] "a few" ;p [12:38] so this hoary(releasename)-updates is going to be a part of the kubuntu from now on? === daddy [~daddy@86.126.59.130] has joined #kubuntu === daddy is now known as VyRuZ [12:39] well, I guess we could also say that system breakage occurs frequently :) [12:39] eh? [12:39] is there a sfv verification program for kubuntu ?? === jazwec [~jazwec@chello217023251245.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [12:52] hi..please..cuold anybody help me with installing mozilla firefox [12:53] apt-get install mozilla-firefox ? [12:56] package mozilla firefox is not available..bla bla bla..package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212-41-96-154.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu === toutpt [~toutpt@ANantes-151-1-32-176.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [12:59] jazwec same here [12:59] please someone help === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212-41-96-154.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu === osh_ [~osh@81-231-230-175-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === JensK [~JensK@p54907A6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] jazwec: it's apparently named only firefox now... [01:16] so apt-get install firefox [01:16] cause of the mozilla branding guidelines [01:17] that seems a bit silly... [01:17] oh thx [01:18] couldnt find package firefox [01:18] apt-cache search firefox [01:20] still couldnt find package firefox === Harnak [~Harnak@219-88-196-11.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] oh it works [01:22] thx === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [01:26] when i start it..it writes: the file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found [01:28] oh probably i solved it === Roman2K [~Roman2K@ath91-1-82-234-206-99.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:31] Hi :) [01:34] I had installed Ubuntu and then the package "kubuntu-desktop" and choosed kdm as login manager. But now when I start the PC, there is KDM as login as login manager but then gnome starts and not KDE. How must I do to make KDE start instead of Gnome, please ? [01:39] the icon in the bottom left corner === _nemo [~nemo@port-212-202-79-244.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] wallet ? [01:40] in kdm [01:40] session type or so [01:40] ok i'm going to see thank you === gdh [~gdh@80-192-144-33.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [~peter@wolax8-116.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [~peter@wolax8-116.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-116.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntulog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Topic for #kubuntu: Some fixes: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun | http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php === Topic (#kubuntu): set by Riddell at Thu May 26 13:18:53 2005 === _osh [~osh@81-231-230-175-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === _tron [~tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #kubuntu === sAkYa [~sakya@dsl-084-057-129-058.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-140-133.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === _tron is now known as tron_ [04:08] test === KaiL [KaiL@p548F56B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === sAkYa [~sakya@dsl-084-057-129-058.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === pv [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu === mikl fires up his lightcycle === N17R0 [~dhyfbs@amf-zlh-90d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu === AceMan [~me@81-178-214-43.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu === tango_ [~ubuntu@adsl-ull-53-208.42-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [04:49] hi all [04:49] hullo [04:50] does pmount only work with removable media? [04:50] hmm [04:50] pmount? [04:50] yes [04:50] pmount - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user [04:50] ok, the question should rather be put this way: [04:50] yes [04:50] the man says [04:51] yup [04:51] only removable device [04:51] so the question is rather: is there a way to make it work with the hard disks? [04:51] so use normal mount for HD [04:51] I was looking for a way to make it work without fstab entries [04:51] heh [04:51] which is almost a necessity for live systems [04:51] so mount with sudo [04:51] plus, I wanted a way to make it work automagically [04:52] ah! === Livingstone___ [~victor@80.103.130.177] has joined #kubuntu [04:52] so as to aid the casual nonsavvy user [04:52] (e.g. my father) [04:52] I dunno [04:53] what I was wondering is [04:53] are there technical reason for pmount to only work with removable media? === NothingButYou [~slimmer@slimmer.c0msys.net] has joined #kubuntu === mhlmi [~mhlmi@62.139.71.75] has joined #kubuntu === JensK [~JensK@p5490303B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === bisley [~bisley@85.57.3.136] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === lord_crow [~certif@ADSL-200-59-68-164.capfed1.uolsinectis.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [05:19] hi everyone [05:20] i've looking everywhere about this, with no results... does anyone knows how to make work a xerox workcentre PE16 in kubuntu hoary???? === rexykik [~karl@c-24-11-144-126.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:20] or where to find an answer... [05:21] can anyone tell me how to get my usb harddrive to mount? [05:22] rexykik: i think mount -t filesystem /dev/sda1 (it's usually sda1, you can see /var/log/messages to check that) /mnt/mountpoint [05:23] rexykik: where -t filesystem is the filesistem of your disk, like vfat, reiserfs, ext3, etc === sabelsatan [~sabelsata@ti511220a080-2584.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu === kkathman [~kkathman@h-69-3-74-243.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Curalton [~thomas@134.76.62.145] has joined #kubuntu === sabelsatan [~sabelsata@ti511220a080-2584.bb.online.no] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === spektr_ [~spektr@M860P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu === spektr_ is now known as spektr === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F629C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu === _jim [~jim@ppp203-217.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === motaboy [~motaboy@host88-41.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === _dylan [~dylan@c-67-168-163-157.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.54] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:56] <_jim> hi guys, i've just set up kubuntu for my dad [05:56] <_jim> it works great but i'm having some trouble with the default route [05:57] <_jim> i have to do /sbin/route add default gw 10.2.2.3 all the time === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu [05:57] _jim: pretty quiet in here atm - try #ubuntu [05:57] <_jim> k, thanks === _dylan [~dylan@c-67-168-163-157.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _osh has managed to get a dvd to play in mandriva but not in kubuntu. Annoying error. The same libdecss-version are installed in both distributions. :-/ === _osh is now known as osh [06:02] =) [06:02] Annoying as hell. [06:02] what program you use? [06:02] Tm_T: Kaffeine, in both dists. [06:03] yuk [06:03] have you tried oKle? [06:03] or mplayer/Kplayer [06:04] For some reason it won't install mplayer for me. I'll remove kaffeine and see if I can install mplayer then. [06:05] eh, it has nothing to do with that === _jim [~jim@ppp203-217.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:05] install Kplayer [06:05] kaffeine is rather buggy... :( [06:05] <_jim> thoreauputic: thanks that worked :)( [06:05] no shit =) [06:05] _jim: :) [06:06] _jim: you're welcome [06:06] It claims to have a dependancy on libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but sais that "It won't be installed". [06:06] _jim: man interfaces for more info as you need it [06:07] osh: I'm guessing you have nerim/marillat enabled? [06:07] If I try to install libavcodeccvs it claims to be dependant on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 will be installed. === IIIEars [~billh@cpe-24-30-188-176.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:07] osh: if so, comment it out and update, then try again [06:07] thoreauputic: Yep. [06:07] see above [06:08] mplayer is now in multiverse and you are seeing conflicts === osh looks up but only sees God. :-) [06:08] thoreauputic: I'll try your solution. Thanks. [06:08] osh: should work [06:09] osh: you can kick me if it doesn't ;) [06:09] Good Morning :) - I need help setting the display resolution for Kubunut. i810 8245g Brookdale [06:09] I wish someone could make a multimedia-player for Linux that "Just Works"(tm) [06:09] mikl: xine-ui with w32codecs "just works" here [06:09] they pretty much do [06:09] Should i enable DRI or use the framebuffer? [06:10] its actually easier to get a decent working player with all the codecs in a managed package system on linux than it is on windows [06:10] pussfeller: agreed [06:10] Should GLXcore be enbled with glx? [06:10] browser/streams, well thats a bit hit and miss, but gettting better [06:11] osh: you can always compile it yourself === brenton [~brenton@ip68-110-139-182.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === _brenton [~brenton@ip68-110-139-182.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:11] how do i kill this gam_server [06:12] ps -e grab the pid # then kill pid ? [06:12] pussfeller: sudo killall gam_server [06:12] nope it restarts [06:12] killkilldiedie [06:12] mikl - Can you help me with my display? [06:13] IIIEars: yes, probably :) [06:13] even killall -9 gam_server && umount /thing dont work [06:13] its fast on its feet [06:13] Tm_T: I've removed marillat and now it seems to work. Atleast it's installing mplayer now... [06:13] I have onboard video (groan) i810 8245g brookdale. [06:13] I'll let you know if it'll play my dvd soon. [06:14] <_jim> heh... just installed kubuntu as dual boot on my parents computer....it was in XP and she sat down and was like....how do i get back to other one :P [06:14] anyone else had probs with kio thing that handles dvds and having to kill it [06:14] osh: had a feeling it might work ;) [06:14] IIIEars: Is it just the resolution in X that needs tweaking or what? [06:14] Yes - 640x480 [06:14] my mom starts screaming when I even mention linux [06:15] :D [06:15] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [06:15] The chat window is HUGE - getting motion sickness as the words fly by. - lol [06:15] <_jim> pussfeller: i didn't use the word linux at all....they asked me if there was anything i could do to stop spyware [06:15] IIIEars: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [06:15] <_jim> i just told them i had another system they could try [06:15] <_jim> if they liked it they could keep it [06:15] _jim: good strategy :) [06:15] Yes - not familiar with the settings for this card. [06:16] <_jim> they already use firefox and thunderbird under windows so it wasn't too hard [06:16] osh: whoa =) [06:16] <_jim> their life hasn't changed much [06:16] _jim: and it's getting easier for people all the time :) [06:16] <_jim> only k3b instead of nero which my dad constantly cocks up anyway [06:16] IIIEars: resolution is primary dependent on your monitor-settings === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-69-3-234-195.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [06:16] <_jim> thoreauputic: yeh, aside from that issue with the network everything works perfectly... [06:16] My sisters sometimes complains about not having MSN messenger. [06:16] -s [06:16] Display properties offer one res 640x480 [06:17] That's their only gripe [06:17] _jim: you didn't resolve htat? === michelp [~michel@dialup-4.255.76.187.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] <_jim> thoreauputic: yeh i did, just saying that was the only hiccup [06:17] And they love the Gimp :D [06:17] _jim: ah, I see :) [06:17] <_jim> the rest went perfectly [06:17] IIIEars: the resolutions available for X is depenadant on what it thinks the max-values for HSync og VRefresh is [06:17] <_jim> Choubaka: yeh, dad's a photoshop whore and he thinks gimp is faster so he's using that now [06:18] IIIEars: as defined in the monitor-section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:18] hehe. [06:18] yer older generation, email and a browser... anything beyond that... they have no need [06:18] or idea [06:18] <_jim> Choubaka: though i did buy xover office just incase he needs photoshop [06:18] mikl - the resolution values from dpkg xorg looked okay. [06:19] How do I open a dvd in the mplayer gui? [06:19] ... [06:19] IIIEars: in that case it /should/ work [06:19] the i810 driver doesn't ofer accel. [06:20] you can get dri with i810 [06:20] osh: use rightclick [06:20] osh: that's where you find things everywhere [06:20] Tm_T: I just found it. [06:20] really don't know what thae dri setting does [06:20] <_jim> thoreauputic: i think the only thing thats actually stopping linux on the desktop for most people (i.e not power users) is the fact that they can't get alot of the commercial products/support [06:20] And it appears to crash for me. :-/ [06:20] osh: you know, there's reason why mouse have multiple buttons ;) [06:20] in this context, i mean getting opengl to work [06:21] <_jim> thoreauputic: which is hard to actually fix from a distro point of view [06:21] _jim: that and the fact that it isn't pre-installed [06:21] assuming the dri setting isn't used what should the other settings be? [06:21] Tm_T: Bah. Mice is a pest that should be eradicated.... :-) [06:21] haha [06:21] most common users rarely resort to commerical support [06:22] _jim: people still need a linux geek to say "have you tried streamtuner/ frozen-bubble/ foo ? " [06:22] <_jim> thoreauputic: i guess...but like, i was going to do this for a friend too...she was all keen and then she said..well i need myob for accounts... [06:22] lol [06:22] frozen bubble? - hmm - wide grin [06:22] _jim: yes, that can be a problem [06:22] it's great =) [06:23] <_jim> thoreauputic: i mean...if you have a linux geek, of which there are a few now..you can get it installed and to be honest..linux doesn't break that much [06:23] Tm_T: Mplayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio [06:23] mondo - will back it up if it does [06:23] <_jim> thoreauputic: but if the applications aren't there...then what can you do...there is a whole world of trouble free computing they can't access.. [06:23] <_jim> its not just a linux thing either...macs have that problem..though to a lesser extent [06:23] Tm_T: Mplayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/FPU/RAM. Recompile MPlayer with --enable-debug and make a gdb backtrace and disassembly. [06:24] If there are enough users developers will find them [06:24] _jim: this is gradually changing, but it will take a while === blueyed [~daniel@i528C3920.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:24] osh: try Kplayer or oKle [06:25] <_jim> thoreauputic: well yeh, thats my point..there is_nothing a distro can really do..linux is ready for the desktop in terms of what a distro can actually provide [06:25] there's a catch 22 " there isn't enough demand" but if they don't make the software no one can increase the demand... [06:26] the real trouble is gamers push the a big chunk of the market. - new hardware [06:26] Frozen Bubble. [06:26] That game is pure evil in all its addictiveness. [06:27] 3 cheers for frozen bubble ! [06:27] and Doom 3 [06:27] Doom3 can not even compare. [06:27] My entire family plays frozen bubble [06:27] and they're all addicts. === kkathman [~kkathman@h-69-3-74-243.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:27] pingud is cute :D [06:27] *pingus [06:28] << XScrabble :) [06:28] IIIEars: is Xscrabble in the repos? === thoreauputic checks [06:28] nah but alien fixed it. - copyright trouble - gentoo ignores it. [06:29] I think it was gentoo's repo [06:29] IIIEars: where did you get yours? === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu [06:29] I think it was gentoo's repo [06:29] hmm OK === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [06:31] any hints for setting up a $198 video card with no accel? [06:31] er $1.98 [06:32] gotta love those OEM machines. [06:32] eh? [06:32] My wife needs kubuntu :) [06:33] 640x480 won't make her smile [06:33] ogle_nav: vm.c:1241: play_PGC_post: Assertion `state.pgc->next_pgc_nr != 0' failed. [06:33] IIIEars: haha [06:34] should i try dri with framebuffer? [06:34] sure [06:34] Okay. [06:34] framebuffer everytime for LCD display? [06:36] back in a blit er blit i mean with 24 bit color. === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu === davide [~davide@213-140-6-109.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu === IIIEars [~billh@cpe-24-30-188-176.socal.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _tron [~tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #kubuntu [06:52] <_tron> tes === Tezkah_ [~Tezkah@d137-186-160-50.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === Tezkah_ is now known as Tezkah === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:58] err... installing java on kubuntu? I've done the "fakeroot make-jpkg jre.bin" but I don't get a .deb-file as a result. :-( [06:59] osh: you need the sun jre bin file first, of course === edsuom [~edsuom@207-118-75-248.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] osh: in case that's your problem... [07:00] ehh [07:00] =) [07:00] thoreauputic: I've got that one, and I've installed java-package [07:00] osh: OK [07:03] http://pastebin.com/291318 [07:05] osh: erm.. don't you have to use the full filename? as in jre ? [07:07] thoreauputic: My bad. I've managed to mangle the name of the file while moving it and didn't think it'd matter. When moving the original file it just worked. I found this out right now. [07:08] thoreauputic: It's building now. [07:08] :) [07:08] Annoying wouldn't you say? [07:09] Installing it now. Let's just hope it works.. =) [07:09] You might say so - I couldn't possibly comment ;-) [07:10] SUCCESS! [07:11] It works. It's a bit more work than a normal "sudo apt-get install java5" but atleast it works now. [07:11] thoreauputic: You're one of the kubuntu devels? [07:11] no === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [07:12] heh [07:12] I just hang around a lot:) [07:12] I never just hang around [07:12] Is there a kubuntu devel around here or is this channel just for us "users"? [07:12] oh yes here is [07:12] osh: Riddell makes an appearnce regularly [07:12] *appearance [07:13] and \sh [07:13] and some others [07:13] And how free is kubuntu? Free as in debian or free as in Mandriva? [07:14] Tm_T: "Tm_T I never just hang around" -> I've been known to help people occsionally ;-) [07:14] osh: free as in debian [07:14] I never help ] ;= [07:14] osh: free [07:15] thoreauputic: who? me? [07:15] =) [07:15] Riddell: spaeak of the Devil :) [07:15] Riddell: nothing to you, go away [07:15] ;--P [07:15] righty ho, I know my place === osh thinks kubuntu is a great distro but there are some things that needs to be ironed out. Perhaps my installation is fsck'ed up but I find it annoying that my DVD doesn't work and some other small issues. Perhaps I should get that bugzilla.ubuntu.org-account now... ;-) [07:16] osh: hmm, my dvd:s work very well [07:16] osh: what doesn't work about it? [07:16] Riddell: yes, be suitably humble ;-) [07:17] Riddell: things like java won't install when you get the filename wrong, and Kubuntu doesn't magically guess it for you ;) === thoreauputic runs === ds9bsd [~ds9@ASt-Lambert-102-1-2-209.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] java is non-free which makes it difficult to package sensibly === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [07:19] Riddell: it was a joke at osh's expense, actually :) [07:19] well it's an interesting point, we should have a graphical installer that just does the right thing for evil proprietry stuff like java/real/flash [07:20] Riddell: that would be nice, yeah [07:20] Riddell: realplay is rubbish anyway, as far as I can tell [07:20] Riddell: The problem with I have with dvd is that kaffeine won't play it but gives an error-msg, okle just refuses to play or say anything, and mplayer crashes. It works well in my old mandrake-installation in my basement so I figure it's got to be a kubuntu issue. [07:20] Riddell: it only works for about half the formatsit claims to [07:21] osh: do you have libdvdcss installed? [07:21] osh: perhaps you want to have a look at the versions in the marillat repository. Do a search... [07:21] Riddell: I do. Same version on both machines I believe. [07:21] what's the error message from kaffeine [07:22] Riddell: I think I've removed the marillat-repos because of some other error. thoreauputic helped me with that. Let me just reenable them and install kaffeine and I'll tell you the error. [07:23] osh: i wouldn't if I were you [07:23] thoreauputic: No? === gdh [~gdh@80-192-144-33.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:24] osh: the marillat repos are debian repos and cause a lot of conflicts with ubuntu [07:24] osh: I see it almost daily [07:24] osh: OK for getting codecs, but disable them afterwards [07:25] I use xine anyway: works well for me === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [07:26] thoreauputic: Ok. I'll have that in mind. I think kaffeine is based on xine btw. [07:26] osh: correct :) === osh should probably learn how to creata .deb's. Shoudn't be harder than rpm's. [07:27] osh: for some reason I find xine-ui is more reliable than totem-xine, kaffeine, or xfmedia, even though they all use the xine backend [07:29] Sad thing that xine-ui frontend is so bad... [07:29] Using X11 as a toolkit is not very nice. [07:29] thoreauputic: Riddell: For some reason things just started to work now. I think. I've got picture and sound running. [07:29] pv: it's OK if you get a nice skin (although the menus still suck) [07:29] Thanks for being patient with me. [07:29] osh: he he, always the way [07:30] osh: glad to hear it's working for you [07:32] Hmm, perhaps I spoke too soon. It's a bit "jumpy". Still. It's a big improvement. I'll see if I can see what's taking so much cpu. === _brenton [~brenton@ip68-110-139-182.nc.hr.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [07:32] osh: you have dma enabled on the DVD drive? [07:34] thoreauputic: probably not. [07:34] osh: check that- makes a big difference [07:34] hdparm [07:35] like: sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd (or whatever your device is, like /dev/hdc) [07:36] and put in a an entry for it it /etc/hdparm.conf === Jeezis [~roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu [07:39] thoreauputic: It worked perfectly. Thanks. [07:39] osh: great :) [07:40] osh: make sure you have an entry in /etc/hdparm.conf so it will load on boot [07:40] Another happy customer :) [07:41] we aim to please... *g* [07:43] thoreauputic: Here's something you might be able to use your magic fix0r powers on :) If I choose 'Administrator mode' in anything in kcontrol, rather than showing me the same controls again, it shows me the information screen "Welcome to the "KDE Control Centre"," with KDE version / hostname / kernel version etc. [07:43] even happens across reboots :) [07:43] gdh: known issue (bug) use sudo kcontrol from a terminal [07:44] Ooh excellent- am glad it's not just a weirdy on my system alone [07:44] gdh: this is also regularly reported on the mailing list and in #kubuntu [07:44] you have majik tekn1q ;) [07:44] I've not been on here much recently and am not subbed to the list. [07:45] I have enough list mail already... [07:45] asterisk-users makes sure of that === bisley [~bisley@85.57.3.136] has joined #kubuntu [07:46] hmh, why not "kdesu kcontrol" [07:46] Tm_T: yes, that would be fine I guess [07:46] I heard sudo causes problems with some fraphical progs [07:46] g [07:46] Tm_T: k3b in particular, it seems [07:46] .ICEauthority gets confused === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === _stealth [~stealth@adsl-2-252-109.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] <_stealth> hey guys, anyone know of a nice program to record video for Kubuntu? [07:51] <_stealth> something like camtasia studio or fraps [07:51] <_stealth> to record ur desktop [07:53] hm [07:53] damnit someone sent me a link for that recently [07:53] converts a VNC session to a .swf [07:53] there is a program to make a flash animation from the vnc output [07:53] yeh :) [07:54] http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/ [07:54] _stealth: So, combine that with KDE's built-in VNC-based 'desktop sharing' [07:54] and you have a solution :) === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [07:55] <_stealth> interesting [07:55] <_stealth> so i would need to recod it from another comp? [07:56] <_stealth> or just start a vnc session? [07:56] Possibly not.. [07:56] I think it only connects to the VNC server in watch-only mode [07:56] krfb shouldn't have a problem with that [07:57] <_stealth> could u connect to urself in vnc? === chavo [~chavo@135.sub-70-212-16.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:57] Why not? [07:57] The vnc2swf software will be able to, I'm sure. Only KDE's own 'krdc' will likely complain if you try to open localhost:0 === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.54] has joined #kubuntu === bisley [~bisley@85.57.3.136] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === _stealth [~stealth@adsl-2-252-109.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === bisley [~bisley@85.57.3.136] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === _root [~root@168.226.122.172] has joined #kubuntu === _root is now known as GuS-Arg [08:24] Helou! === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis [~roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu === NothingButYou [~slimmer@slimmer.c0msys.net] has joined #kubuntu === blackhrt [~blackhrt@067.216-123-231-0.interbaun.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:38] what dvd-ripping package would you suggest? dvdrip? acidrip? drip? I'd like something rather automatic. === Jeezis [~roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu [08:43] hmh, why servers allow root to connect [08:43] and I mean root users here === ahuman01 [~ashay@141.152.253.158] has joined #kubuntu === franz [~franz@host-84-222-49-152.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === brenton [~brenton@ip68-110-139-182.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === ahuman01 [~ashay@141.152.253.158] has joined #kubuntu === Aladdin-- [~aladdin@toronto-HSE-ppp3980354.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [08:58] hi all [08:58] hi [08:58] Now nothing is as beautiful as a K desk. I'm home. This Ubuntu project is great. [08:59] osh, hi dude [08:59] osh, I got a brand new install o' Kubuntu. === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [08:59] Aladdin--: Me too. Sort of. =) [09:00] osh, why sort of? [09:01] I've had it for a few weeks. That's sort of "new" isnt' it? [09:01] osh, oh ok :) [09:02] osh, I,ve reinstalled it a couple of time. laast setup I had an http serveeeer running, cool, with php and mysql and a Mambo CMS. [09:02] Aladdin--: congratulations === Aladdin-- damn keyboard! [09:03] Riddell, hi [09:04] now I'm going to learn Pure-Ftpd. It's got a graphical interface and all the trimmings: ratio, virtual servers, virtual users... [09:06] but hey, THE thing is mplayer. Playing an ISO file, hehe, cool! [09:08] OK now anybody: I got a BUG using Kaffeine. The process hangs and I have to manually shut it off. Anyone know about this? [09:09] I think that is a known issue [09:09] Aladdin--: Yep. Known issue. [09:09] Tezkah, good. any improvment ahead? [09:09] what do you guys use to play DVD's [09:10] Aladdin--: I think adding this and upgrading fixes it. deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main [09:10] sladen, mplayer [09:10] Aladdin--: Kaffeine. [09:10] osh, oh OK cool thx alot! [09:11] SlicerDicer-: Kaffeine is what I use for my DVD. I just got it to work a few hours (1-2) ago though. thoreauputic and Riddell helped me with it. === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [09:13] Is there a GUI-tool for ripping dvd's? I have a lot of Buffy DVD's to rip and don't want to spend a lot of time configuring and doing that kind of job. I just want to slot it in and press "Rip". [09:13] hm well it cant read my dvd [09:13] SlicerDicer-: What's your /dev/dvd linked to and is the player configured to use /dev/dvd? [09:13] arrgh 20kbps [09:14] osh, /dev/cdrom === spiral [~spiral@84.4.161.63] has joined #kubuntu [09:14] SlicerDicer-: and what's /dev/cdrom linked to? [09:15] eh? /dev/cdrom is where the dvd is === x2peistu [~x2peistu@86.126.33.186] has joined #kubuntu [09:15] SlicerDicer-: and which of the two questions were you answering? :-) [09:15] I dont know what you wnat [09:15] its reading the dvd and sees it [09:15] thats not the problem === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.IPv6Tunnel.Info] has joined #Kubuntu [09:16] SlicerDicer-: and you've got libdecss installed? [09:16] The source can't be read. [09:16] Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD.) [09:16] who could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu? [09:16] does not exist in synaptic [09:16] like mp3player...........or elsse [09:17] SlicerDicer-: exactly the same error I got. Hang on. I'll check what the decss program is called. === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [09:18] who could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu? [09:18] like mp3player...........or elsse === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2CDC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has left #kubuntu ["System.exit(-1);"] [09:19] x2peistu: try amaroK for mp3s [09:19] or xmms, if you want something lighter [09:19] SlicerDicer-: perhaps it's the libdvdcss2 or libdvdread3. [09:19] i want something 3D [09:19] could u help me? [09:20] ok [09:21] osh, I've applied the updates you mentionned. The change is phenomenal. I get 20% cpu use while watching a movie, and nothing @reserved@ to the system. And it doesn't hang in the memory anymore. THX alot. That was a good info. [09:21] nope osh === bisley [~bisley@85.57.3.136] has joined #kubuntu [09:22] Aladdin--: glad to be of service. =) === Aladdin-- didn't think u could do so much with a PIII-500 [09:22] SlicerDicer-: what's the error? [09:23] screw it I will just play itin my mac lol [09:23] who could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu? like mp3 player (full 3D) [09:23] this is a 64bit computer thats more than likely why [09:23] who could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu? like mp3 player (full 3D) [09:24] SlicerDicer-: Ahh. AMD64? That explains a lot. Then you'll need a chroot. [09:24] pls [09:24] SlicerDicer-: I got it to work on my amd but only through chroot. [09:24] who could tell me useful programs for Kubuntu? like mp3 player (full 3D) [09:25] x2peistu: amaroK isn't good enough for you? [09:25] nop === ubuntu [~ubuntu@cpe-24-33-2-161.midsouth.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:26] osh: do u got something else for me? [09:26] osh, nah no need for Chroot I will just kludge it [09:26] x2peistu: If you keep repeating the same question you'll get kicked. [09:26] What the hell has 3D got to do with an mp3 player, anyway? [09:26] osh, I just dont have the patience right now [09:26] x2peistu: sorry. I don't have the same requirements as you do. If it works it's good enough for me. =) [09:27] i whant that all to be 3d [09:27] SlicerDicer-: Ok. From what I gather it's just that most codecs don't do 64-bit yet. [09:27] osh, I had dvds working in gentoo with full 64bit its possible :) === Jeezis [~roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu [09:28] osh, its .mov and .wmv that I have a hell of a time with [09:29] SlicerDicer-: I can imagine. The chroot I had to do to play avi/mpeg/wmv things. I just assumed that dvd's were the same. === Jeezis is now known as Jeezis00 [09:35] osh, nah I had mpg working I just did not bother with wmv or mov those were the only 2 busted === Jeezis00 is now known as Jeezis [09:37] SlicerDicer-: I had some mpegs working. Not all of them oddly enough. And no avi's. On this 32-bit machine it works though. [09:39] okay I am going back to KDE [09:39] I miss it too much === mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [09:39] hmm strange osh [09:40] kde is your friend === Tezkah [~Tezkah@d137-186-160-50.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:40] oh Plastik [09:40] how I've missed you [09:41] hmm [09:41] why do my apps like, Firefox look soooo crappy under KDE [09:45] mez: gtk depenancies [09:45] so how do i fix them [09:46] they look sucky === _Church_Of_Foame [~Foamey@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] I got told [09:46] Install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt and Gaim will look normal w00t.gif [09:46] theme firefox or rebuild it and send to kubuntu.org. ;-) [09:46] but that didnt work [09:47] <_Church_Of_Foame> anyone know how to delete a file with .? [09:47] osh, mind if I PM you? [09:47] query * [09:47] _Church_Of_Foame: rm .filename [09:47] <_Church_Of_Foame> ok [09:48] mez: Why not take it in the channel. Perhaps someone else can help too? [09:48] well [09:48] I was going to send you a screenshot of what I mean by it looks crap [09:48] <_Church_Of_Foame> it won't remove it because it's a directory any other options? [09:49] mez: Ok. Send it. I do think I've seen it though. I use firefox too and it looks "gnomish". [09:49] It doesnt even look gnomish [09:49] _Church_Of_Foame: then try rm -r .filename [09:49] it looks like it's just... built... crappily [09:49] <_Church_Of_Foame> ok thanx [09:49] _Church_Of_Foame: but that's deleting a directory. [09:50] sending osh [09:50] accept [09:50] is it just me, or is http://www.konversation.org/ not working? [09:51] Hmm, doesn't seem to work. perhaps my firewall is too strict... [09:51] DCC CHAT? How quaint :) [09:51] I don't feel like opening that up though. Isnt' there a pastebin or something that can be used to show screenshots? [09:52] *Shrugs* === mez shoves it in the www folder [09:52] mikl: I can't get it either. === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.54] has joined #kubuntu [09:53] http://mezzle.info/snapshot6.jpg [09:55] mez: what am I looking for? [09:55] mez: looks similar to my firefox... [09:55] look at the difference between konqueror and firefox... [09:55] oh god [09:56] you mean I'm stuck with it looking that crappy :( [09:56] I think so. Unless you can put a theme on firefox. There something called plastik-something that's quite good they say. [09:57] I assume that this is how a gtk-app looks under kde. [09:59] I thought they'd at least look a LITTLE better === mez found the plastik theme for FF [09:59] erm [09:59] quick Q [09:59] how do i install verdana etc etc fonts [10:03] sorry, can't help you there. [10:04] nvm, found help in #ubuntu === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:05] can someone help me with my icons. None of them display for some reason === mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === ilbahr [~ilbahr@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:10] can't anybody help me out? [10:10] what do you need ph [10:11] none of my icons are showing up anywhere.... not even in my kicker panel === kay [~kay@p54A383AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === lonewolff [~lonewolff@lonewolff.user] has joined #kubuntu [10:12] sorry do not know what could cause that [10:12] whats wierd is if i open konqueror as root the icons are there [10:13] so i think it may be a permissions issue but then i checked the permission on the icons folders and it seems okay [10:13] you should not see icons on desktop but in task bar you should [10:14] try adding new user and log in with this user name [10:14] then copy the directory ./kde it might just be a mistake when the default was copied from etc [10:15] ryan@averatux:~$ touch /dev/genitalia [10:15] touch: cannot touch `/dev/genitalia': Permission denied [10:15] =\ [10:20] Tezkah: don't you just hate it when that happens =P === claydoh is now known as claydoh|shops === Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has left #kubuntu ["So] === Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:47] I can't install transcode. Anyone got an idea on how to fix that? [10:47] Actually I couldn't care less about transcode but I need it for the dvdrip-package. ;-) === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:48] how do i enable root login from kdm? [10:48] osh: you need the marillat deb repositories [10:48] deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main [10:48] add the 'testing' and 'stable' ones too :) [10:48] I've tried with and without the marillat repos but it won't install anyway. [10:48] since some packages aren't in all 3 [10:50] I've got stable/unstable/testing in sources.list. === mrmanic is away (going offline) [10:50] anybody??? === mrmanic is now known as mrmanic|afk [10:50] phxguy: You don't. Get over it. [10:50] gdh think again [10:51] just use 'sudo' when you need to run a command with root privs [10:51] ive had it enabled before [10:51] gdh: Any help appreciated. [10:51] phxguy: why would you want root to be able to login? [10:51] i just dont remeber where i did it at [10:51] because my usual login is screwed up === __P__3 [~princoscr@host-84-220-140-133.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:52] and i need to do some things under root [10:52] osh: Hm. I see what you mean... libavcodeccvs uninstallable. [10:52] osh: this is directlly because marillat's for Debian not ubuntu :/ [10:52] phxguy: why not do a normal login from ctrl-alt-f1 and fix it from there? [10:52] libc6 version dependency of 2.3.2.ds1-21 not 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 etc. [10:52] well as I said my usual login is hosed [10:53] phxguy: Sorry, I didn't mean normal login, I meant root login from ctrl-alt-f1 [10:53] gdh: is there a way to fix it. I'd really like to be able to use dvdrip. [10:54] phxguy: you should be able to do that. [10:54] I see im gonna get nowhere [10:54] osh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=548&page=3 [10:54] phxguy: reboot and pass init=/bin/sh to the kernel. do your root stuff and fix your account. (make sure your account is in the admin group (check: 'id username' add: 'adduser username admin') [10:54] I googled for 'transcode ubuntu' :) === osh seems to have annoyed phxguy away. [10:54] gah.. he left. [10:56] osh: Eek I wouldn't want to follow that.. it's reccomending to install a debian libc6 :/ [10:57] osh: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdrip [10:57] gdh: Ok. I won't [10:57] Can anybody help me cure my keyboard layout on Breezy? [10:58] It seems utterly broken now === brdweb [~brdweb@dsl092-173-023.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:59] It is e.g. like alt is no longer a meta key [10:59] And tab seems to be a key with no name?! [11:03] does anyone know what cause i/o errors when burning dvd's in k3b? i have managed to ruin 3 discs today and only write 2 sucessfully [11:04] kay: Few of us are mad enough to use breezy yet :) [11:04] well, i am === claydoh|shops is now known as claydoh === ilbahr_ [~ilbahr@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:14] it runs quite ok now, except KDE being incomplete and Xorg breaks keys [11:14] And I needed a lot of handword to get Xorg to run at all === _Church_Of_Foame [~Foamey@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:17] <_Church_Of_Foame> where would the error messages for wine be located? === mcspectrum [~dylan@c-67-168-163-157.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === kay [~kay@p54A383AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === mez_ [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:33] osh, you still here? === mez_ is now known as Mez [11:34] Mez: Where's "perr" in the UK? [11:35] gosh, must've been a personal question :) [11:35] gdh: ive never heard of that, sure its the correct spelling? [11:35] lonewolff: (~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk) === huerlisi_ [~shuerlima@212-41-96-154.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu [11:35] couldn't think of a name that could be shortened to 'perr' [11:36] me either ... === mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:38] gdh: perr.blueyonder.co.uk appears to be bradford area, but that weird === lonewolff just ruined another dvd [11:39] HOW? [11:39] err [11:39] how? [11:39] trying to wrote dvd with k3b have done 3 successfully and the last 4 have given me an i/o error [11:39] hmm [11:39] sucks [11:39] i have had good luck with it so far [11:40] well everything was fine earlier [11:40] but i dont know whats going on now [11:40] its always when it gets to the same part as well, on more tha one different file [11:40] just over the 3gb mark and it dies === huerlisi_ [~shuerlima@212-41-96-154.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] im gonna try a different make of disc === mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === _nemo [~nemo@port-212-202-79-244.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:00] lonewolff: can you not get k3b to show you the verbose output from 'cdrecord'? [12:00] that might give a better clue than "didn't work" [12:00] most of the problem with these things is they're just pretty frontends to shove an .iso into cdrecord [12:00] so there's no real integration at all [12:01] gdh: i am just trying another brand of disc atm to check its not the cheap discs