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nate__dabaSlon_mv, I want to add a menu item that will bring up the terminal with this command output and a waiting prompt.  Is that not a use?12:00
linuxamoeba21ys76: when i broke redhat once, i just ran the "upgrade" option on the install CD to fix it... is there a similar fix in ubuntu?12:00
ys76linuxamoeba21, By the way: What are the reasons for mixing? Nearly all Debian-Packages are in Ubuntu too!12:00
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dabaSlon_mvWhat I mean is...send the output to a file, do what nickrud said, I see those as valid alternatives, but I do not know how to answer your particular issue, good luck.12:01
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linuxamoeba21ys76, i was looking for some other stuff not in ubuntu... audio programs maybe?12:01
Enkidudoes anyone know what is causing that error?12:01
ys76linuxamoeba21, Try google "apt-pinning" or learn to use synaptic, aptitude and so on!12:01
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dabaSlon_mvboricua, window managers....12:02
dabaSlon_mvwhoever it was installing ati: add repositories maybe...12:02
dabaSlon_mvthen sudo apt-get update.12:02
ys76linuxamoeba21, I would like to help you, but as you mentioned, you did break Ubuntu badly, and there is no way to give me enough information to help you successful12:03
linuxamoeba21hmm12:03
linuxamoeba21that's unfortunae12:03
linuxamoeba21maybe just network backup and reinstall12:03
dabaSlon_mvlinuxamoeba21: what did you do? would you mind writing out a pastebin about it that I could read?12:03
nickrudlinuxamoeba21, it's a tedious process, but you can clear it up by disabling all extraneous repositories,12:04
linuxamoeba21hmmm12:04
ogi_"> Setting general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4 in about:config seems to let me12:04
ogi_> access addons.mozilla.org" what exactly does that mean12:04
nickrudrunning aptitude or synaptic, clearing out Obsolete and Local Packages12:04
Fator_Deeogi_: open a new tab in firefox12:04
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nickrudtracing the breakages is the fun part :)12:05
Enkiduis anyone familiar with compiling kernels that could help me out/12:05
Fator_Deeogi_: then, write "about:config" on the addressbar, then right click -> add new something, I think integer? and put that as a name and value12:05
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dabaSlon_mvogi_: um...it meanst that is waht you have to do for the mozilla ff site to allow you to access addon section12:06
dabaSlon_mvFator_Dee: it is already there, he scrolls, and chjanges the value.12:06
nate__found a solution nickrud and dabaSlon_mv.  It doesn't work with gnome-terminal, its obviously a bug, and i'm going to report it.  xterm -e "ls --help; bash -i"12:06
Fator_DeedabaSlon_mv: didn't know, but good that you cleared it up12:06
linuxamoeba21nickrud, how do i do that? would it be better to just back stuff up over the network and reinstall12:06
nickrudnate__, cool12:06
ogi_dabaSlon_mv, yeah I understood that much :P12:06
nickrudlinuxamoeba21, you broke it, it's yours :)12:07
linuxamoeba21gah12:07
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dabaSlon_mvnate__: had you not called me brain damaged, I would have manned the gnome-terminal, and found it for you...12:07
nickrudlinuxamoeba21, but, you're right about what's a lot easier12:07
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linuxamoeba21there should definitely be more warning somewhere about not mixing repositories12:07
nate__dabaSlon_mv, ......you obviously are still braindamaged12:08
nickrudlinuxamoeba21, amen, amen, amen12:08
dabaSlon_mvwell, you are a moron for calling ppl names...12:08
maxyvitsI'm dying for some awesome Linux wallpaper like the Think Linux one in 128012:08
dabaSlon_mvanyhow, please leave me alone.12:08
linuxamoeba21becuase i assumed it was a the-more-the-merrier kind of deal12:08
nate__dabaSlon_mv, and i asked if you were braindamaged, i haven't called you braindamaged until just now12:08
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maxyvitsthey're not easily available via google12:08
linuxamoeba21ok, reinstall time =(12:08
segphaultI'm trying to get LIRC working and I'm having some trouble with the kernel compile part. ={12:08
linuxamoeba21thanks all12:09
dabaSlon_mvmaxyvits: I have something called xstarfish, check it out:) it is a random wallpaper, based on a computation. you cant even see it, unless you remove the default ubuntu desktop:)12:09
dabaSlon_mvwelcome:) ogi_ do you need help with getting it done??12:09
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ys76linuxamoeba21, Is there a warning not to build a 300hp motor in a tiny car? No, you simply know it is nonsense or at least difficult to handle all problems!12:09
segphaultproblem I'm having: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ndatxq38.html12:10
segphaultanybody know what the message indicates?12:10
maxyvitsdaba: how do I run it?12:10
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nate__ys76, was he mixing between distributions?12:10
dabaSlon_mvmaxyvits: you first install xstarfish12:10
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dabaSlon_mvthen, you just xstarfish in a terminal.12:11
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dabaSlon_mvbut, the screen wont let you see it if you still havce the desktop icons, you have to turn it off.12:11
dabaSlon_mvsomewhere in nautilus if I rememb er right12:11
dabaSlon_mvbut, then, no desktop icons.12:11
maxyvitsgreat ... understanding how to install stuff on Linux is like understanding special relativity12:11
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ys76nate__, Yes he did an broke Hoary badly...12:12
nate__ys76, ick :/12:12
dabaSlon_mvapt-get install anything almost...:)12:12
dabaSlon_mvas sudo.12:12
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maxy_noobok, that worked.12:13
maxy_noobnow?12:13
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dabaSlon_mvnate__: you must have had a hard time looking for that terminal thing...or youre not very patient, or something..sorry to hear that...:) Ill see if man gnome-terminal will tell m,e...12:14
dabaSlon_mvnow, you do something, I cant remember, can you log in to another wm?12:14
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dabaSlon_mvok, I guess Ill go into gnome,, and tell you.12:15
maxy_noobI'm looking for it12:15
maxy_noobsynaptic says it's installed12:15
wolverianI seem to remember someone (probably on planet.gnome.org) had up to date totem-gstreamer packages from totem CVS. does anyone have a link, since google isn't helping me to find them.12:15
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linuxamoeba21while hoary is reinstalling, ys76, i'd like to point out that the only change i made to the repos was the example in synaptic's help12:16
linuxamoeba21not quite the car analogy12:17
dabaSlonlinuxamoeba21: tell me more, whats the issue?12:17
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ys76linuxamoeba21, I will have a look at the help when I am back to Ubuntu...12:18
dabaSlonI wish I would remember what I do to my system sometimes... maxy_noob I need more time....12:18
nickrudlinuxamoeba21, I haven't seen that help page, what was the repository?12:18
user1_Hey, where do you guys get your proxies from? (=12:18
linuxamoeba21debian sarge i believe12:18
nickrudeh12:18
maxy_noob:D12:18
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linuxamoeba21dabaSlon: added repos, update manager told me to upgrade, i did, hoary is a total mess12:18
user1_)=12:19
dabaSlonok, maxy_noobtype in xstarfish in a terminal;12:19
dabaSlonuser1_: what proxies, sorry..12:19
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maxy_noobhuh?12:19
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ys76linuxamoeba21, Er, maybe some help/man/whatever pages are not completely changed to reflect Ubuntu....12:19
user1_=) proxies to hide my internet protocol.12:19
dabaSlonjsut do it...:)12:19
maxy_noobtype what?12:19
dabaSlonuser1_: I dont.12:19
dabaSlonxstarfish12:19
maxy_noobok12:19
user1_Oh.12:19
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user1_Xstarfish?12:20
user1_=)12:20
maxy_noobok12:20
dabaSlonyeah, I dont know who does...that is for him, user12:20
user1_Oh, i'm sorry.12:20
linuxamoeba21ah, well, it's a learning experience12:20
maxy_noobI did12:20
maxy_noobnow?12:20
Fator_Deeys76: seems like a good point to inform the devs about :-)12:20
dabaSlonmore info linux..12:20
user1_I mean, I am reading, but I have a huge list..12:20
dabaSlonmaxy_noob: then,Apps>Sys Tools>Conf Editor, Apps>Nautilus>Preferences>show desktop12:21
dabaSlonuncheck it.12:21
ys76Fator_Dee, Yes, would you like to file such a bug report? Or maybe linuxamoeba21 will do it, 'cause he discovered the "bug"12:21
maxy_noobahhhh12:21
maxy_noobcool12:21
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linuxamoeba21im on it12:22
danko123456yes, taht is wehre.12:22
danko123456linuxamoeba21: what is so broken?12:22
danko123456and which repo did you add?12:22
maxy_noobnow, how do I remove it?12:22
danko123456do you see the xstarfish?12:22
linuxamoeba21danko123456: in a word, everything. i think i added debian sarge. its reformatting now anyway.12:22
wolverianhmm. totem-gstreamer actually crashes on startup.12:22
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pingsweptI'm having some trouble compiling madwifi drivers on Hoary. None of the #include directives are working, but the files are there.12:23
danko123456linuxamoeba21: rash...but, yeah, the easier way..12:23
maxy_noobI see squigglly pink lines12:23
danko123456yeah, thats itl..12:23
linuxamoeba21i just installed it about a week ago, so not too bad12:23
danko123456do another xstarfish in a terminal...12:23
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pingsweptFor example <asm/page.h> is not found, but /usr/include/asm/page.h exists.12:23
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danko123456everytime different, it is determined by a mathematical computeation, that dfascinates me...12:23
maxy_noobcool concept12:24
linuxamoeba21so, safe additions to the repos: the ubuntu universe thing ony?12:24
danko123456pingswept: classpath issue, do you think?12:24
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pingsweptI think I need to add /usr/include as a prefix in some path.12:24
danko123456linuxamoeba21: dont sudo apt-get dist-upgrade when ading repos...12:24
danko123456 I think...12:24
pingsweptBut I don't know which path.12:24
nickrudlinuxamoeba21, http://pastebin.com/290397 that is your sources.list12:24
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danko123456maxy_noob: not really what you were looking for, but...its ok...12:24
maxy_noobgood to know12:25
pingsweptdanko123456: classpath? How can I check that?12:25
maxy_noobthanks12:25
nickrudlinuxamoeba21, replace that first thing, and you will be good to go12:25
linuxamoeba21danko, what's that? i didnt command line anything -- all in synaptic12:25
danko123456nickrud: some guy was complaining about those sources at one point...last night, and he says...why is everythign double:)12:25
danko123456pingswept: I would tel you if I knew...but, the fact of the matter is...12:26
danko123456:)12:26
nickruddanko123456, the only reason the sources are in there is you won't complain ;)12:26
danko123456maybe you can specify in the make file where to look.12:26
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pingsweptdanko123456, thanks anyway.12:26
danko123456nickrud: I dont get it...12:26
Fator_Deelinuxamoeba21: ubuntus repos are safe12:26
nickrudthe only double I see is binary and source12:26
danko123456welcome, that may be it, try fidning a folder with other C headers, and put the files there.12:26
danko123456right, it is...12:27
danko123456its not in fact dbl...12:27
danko123456he was just being lame...12:27
Monkeylikesbanancan someone help me get my dvd working12:27
nate__what version of gnome does ubuntu use?  and whats a way to find out definitively12:27
Fator_Dee2.10?12:27
pingsweptn,: 2.10.12:27
nickrudthe first few times I offered it, it had no deb-src, and that got complaints12:27
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats can./..12:27
jubuntuHello folks how you'all doing?12:27
Monkeylikesbananthanks danko12:27
jacquesmerdehey, gnome's cd player keeps crashing on me. is this a common problem? or do i have to take a good hard look at my hardware?12:27
linuxamoeba21should my bug be listed in the ubuntu distro section or the documentation section of the bugzilla, since its not really ubuntu docs?12:28
danko123456ah... nickrud, yeah, I find those to be pretty good, I use it, and some other ppl that I helped do 2.12:28
wolverianoh well. reinstalling totem-xine, then. :)12:28
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pingsweptjacquesmerde, it hasn't crashed on me in a while.12:28
danko123456jacquesmerde: what is gnome cd player?12:28
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danko123456linuxamoeba21: what is the bug?12:28
jacquesmerdedanko123456, ubuntu's default cd player12:28
danko123456really? I never seen it...where is it?Ill go look12:29
jacquesmerdepingswept, when it DID crash on you, did it do so frequently?12:29
nickruddanko123456, I couldn't find docs for ubuntu's repos, so I just cycled through synaptics repo options to build it12:29
danko123456ooh there is one...12:29
linuxamoeba21danko, that the synaptic help file is non-ubuntu specific (e.g. tells user to add debian repos)12:29
nickrudlinuxamoeba21, file it under synaptic, but find the buggy page so you can report it exactly12:29
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danko123456jacquesmerde: my gnomebaker on the other hand...never opened ever,,,always crashes...:(12:29
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danko123456linuxamoeba21: it belongs on the help file, right on it./..12:29
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danko123456something like, dont dust-upgrade with non-ubuntu repos...12:30
danko123456or dist-upgrade for that matter.12:30
jacquesmerdei WANT to like ubuntu, i REALLY do...12:30
danko123456ohh, man, I just watched teh sweetest movie...12:30
danko123456jacquesmerde: I have not used that program once so far... is there a different one you could play those in?12:31
danko123456the movie, btw, called Life is Miracle, about Bosnia, and some happenings around the war, the war is not the nmain idea, tho...12:31
nickrudyou don't have to dist upgrade to screw your system, getting can be quite enough in that situation.12:31
Razor-Xwhat's the default KDE theme in Kubuntu?12:31
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ys76Razor-X, /join #kubuntu12:32
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Razor-Xwell, I thought there were Kubuntu users here too12:32
danko123456nickrud: I have never so far had issues with any repo, I have had even breezy there for a while...as long zas you just get the progs you need,. and dont get a kernel:) you should be fine..12:32
Razor-Xas, i'm already in Kubuntu ;)12:32
Razor-Xsadly, #kubuntu is almost always dead12:32
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danko123456yeah, sadly:-p12:32
nickruddanko123456, hold, hold and hold, until I sorta learned pinning :)12:32
SnakeBiteloin #kubuntu12:33
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danko123456well, I never learned the concept, but, I mean, it depends on what you isntall, I guess. I have installed firefox, and maybe something else fromt here so far...12:33
danko123456the concept being pinning.12:33
nickrudpinning is a black art, what I learned, is to copy other peoples work.12:34
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andrew137Hi there!  Getting 'unable to mount root fs' on 5.04/amd64, probably because root fs is formatted as Ext3 and the kernel I selected has Ext3 support compiled in as a module.  Do I have any easy way of sorting this or should I reinstall with the rootfs as Ext2?12:34
glickhi12:34
ys76nickrud, Or just learn by trial and error12:34
danko123456well...:)12:34
danko123456glick, yo.12:34
glickever since i compiled a custom kernel i have been havin a few glitches here and there12:34
glicksup danko12345612:35
danko123456andrew137: modprobe module?12:35
nickrudys76, did that too, but when I found a good pin for exerimental gnome I stopped :)12:35
nickrudbefore then, I felt linuxamoeba2112:35
nickrudhis pain :)12:35
Pop_pa_FrEaKforget gentoo i'll use ubuntu on both desktops12:35
danko123456is it cause you pin down exactly what will work - pinning?12:35
andrew137danko: Is there a way I can do a modprobe without being able to boot the o/s?12:35
glickfor example when i open gnome terminal, it is completely black with no cursor, and i can not open another one, nor can i close it12:35
glicki have to kill it12:35
danko123456Pop_pa_FrEaK: not a bad idea...12:36
Pop_pa_FrEaK:)12:36
ys76nickrud, quite reasonable! I am working with a lot of debian machines and I had to learn pinning by heart12:36
Pop_pa_FrEaKi thought so too12:36
nickrudpin by repo, pin by package, pin by version, pin by ...12:36
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danko123456ah...12:36
glickalso, at boot, it no longer sets up my network, i have to manually ifconfig eth0 up and then dhclient12:36
glickto get the network working12:36
glickwhat gives?12:36
nickrudah, well, I get to choose what I learn ;)12:36
danko123456glick: sorry to hear that:)12:36
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danko123456glick: I suppose you needed the new kernel?12:37
davidhey12:37
david david@computer:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-</boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386> xorg-driver-fglrx12:37
danko123456hey, david.12:37
davidPassword:12:37
davidE: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules12:37
daviddavid@computer:~$12:37
davidhey danko12345612:37
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daviddoes anyone know how to find these elsusive packages?12:37
glickdanko123456, yes i did, the new kernel supports my external devices, the stock kernels did not12:37
danko123456david, sudo apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules12:37
glicki compiled a kernel as a last resort12:37
davidk!12:37
danko123456glick: yeah, usually that is why...12:37
danko123456glick, not sure, sorry:) not really a kernel type:)12:38
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danko123456It is working here, and from now on, forever!, I am gonna b buying only stuuff that is not fancy, and works in linux.12:38
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danko123456david: any results from that, see your package?12:39
danko123456david: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-38612:39
daviddavid@computer:~$ sudo apt-cache add linux-restricted-modules-k712:39
davidE: Unimplemented12:39
daviddavid@computer:~$12:39
danko123456that should be it.12:39
daviddanko123456,  k i'll try that12:40
danko123456why are you getting those??12:40
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danko123456you want the 386 ones? you have a pentium?12:40
danko123456k7 is amd.12:40
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danko123456hybrid_goth: please leave and come back as non-root.12:40
danko123456:-p12:40
jacquesmerdedoesnt gnome normally have a different default cd player? goobox?12:40
danko123456why are you in irc as root anyhow12:40
daviddanko123456,  that command you gave me ran but i'm still getting a package error on the flgrx thing12:40
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danko123456david, well, I solved that one at least...:)12:41
Monkeylikesbananim having troubble wiht my dvd drive, can someone help?12:41
danko123456well, since this one is called gnome cd player, I would think it is pretty much default.12:41
Fator_DeeMonkeylikesbanan: what kind of trouble?12:41
daviddanko123456, lol i don't know what that solved though :p12:41
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: did you read the nice site I gave you?12:41
Monkeylikesbananinstalling libdvd12:41
Monkeylikesbananyes12:41
danko123456well, why were you trying to do it, david?12:41
danko123456ok, ainstalled?12:41
daviddanko123456, i need to get ati drivers12:41
hybrid_gothdanko123456: i would if i could startx with out sudoing12:42
daviddanko123456, but it E: can't find restricted driverses me12:42
danko123456ok, and how come you thought that was it?12:42
danko123456hybrid...hm...12:42
Monkeylikesbanancan i msg someone12:42
danko123456open a terminal, su to your user...12:42
danko123456start your app.12:42
hybrid_gothdanko123456: bug...breezy..12:42
hybrid_gothdanko123456: will try12:42
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danko123456david, I dont get you...12:42
danko123456 david: danko123456, but it E: can't find restricted driverses me12:42
danko123456whats that?12:42
daviddanko123456, E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules12:43
danko123456diverses, like a diversion?12:43
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daviddanko123456, i'm trying it with k7 now instead of 38612:43
danko123456U cant do that.12:43
danko123456do you have a pentium?12:43
danko123456and, what kind?12:43
hybrid_gothdanko123456: ok go it brb ty12:43
daviddank done and still errors12:43
danko123456what errors?12:44
davidi have an amd 6412:44
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davidsame as before, can't find pagage linux-restricted-modules12:44
danko123456hehe...12:44
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daviddank, maybe i need to reboot?12:45
danko123456no, you need to sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7 if that is the architecture your computer has.12:45
danko123456david, no.12:45
danko123456david, please do a uname -r in a terminal, tell me what is tehre.12:45
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Monkeylikesbananok... so ive downloaded  libdvd.tar.gz12:45
danko123456no, wrong.12:45
davidnah same error again12:45
danko123456Ill tell you exactly.12:45
Monkeylikesbananand ive exgtracted it12:45
danko123456uname -r ,please.12:45
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: drop that totally.12:45
danko123456delete everything so far.12:45
daviddanko123456,12:46
daviddanko123456 Ill tell you exactly.12:46
workeranyone else have trouble with ubutnu + pppoa pulling the wrong dns info, into resolv.conf?12:46
daviddanko123456,  oops wrong paste12:46
daviddanko123456, 2.6.10-5-38612:46
Monkeylikesbanandelete the file ive dl12:46
hybrid_gothi opend a torrent but 6881 was blacklisted. what is that and how do i fix it12:46
hybrid_goth?12:46
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danko123456means your IP is blacklisted??12:46
danko123456worker, I have read about it on the forums, or on the wiki, search there.12:46
danko123456david, are you sure it is a amd?12:47
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456 do you want me to delete the .tar.gz12:47
danko123456cause that is a intel d\kernel...12:47
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danko123456I think, anyhow...12:47
daviddanko, absolutely positive12:47
danko123456not really knowledgeable about the kernels and whatnots...12:47
danko123456hm...12:47
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danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: yeah, everything, I guess.12:47
danko123456we will install it from apt-get.12:47
Monkeylikesbananok, cool didnt know it was there12:47
glickyeah gnome terminal is black for like 5 mintues then it allows me to type12:47
glickwhile its black i cant open up another gnome-terminal12:48
davidtry for trying to help danko12345612:48
danko123456sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh Monkeylikesbanan.12:48
hajikianyone good with init scripts? i'm having trouble with adding a a parameter after --exec $DAEMON to start-stop-daemon12:48
Monkeylikesbananok12:48
danko123456david, not done, you leving?12:48
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daviddanko123456,  wanna try a reboot perhaps12:49
daviddanko123456,  that sometimes does it12:49
davidbrb12:49
hajikiit will either hang or say it cant find the file12:49
danko123456is anyone here, like seveas, or someone that knows a lot? at least as much as telling me how come if this guy has a amd, his uname -r returns a 2.6.10-5-386 ???12:49
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PenguinOfoh hi12:50
danko123456hey.12:50
hajikiamd is still an x86 class cpu12:50
glickanyone know why it takes 5 minutes for gnome terminal to launch12:50
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: what does that do?12:50
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, i just ran that12:50
danko123456hajiki: thank yiou.12:50
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soganesshey i have a problem,12:50
Monkeylikesbananand seemed to go ok12:50
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soganessi installed the amd64 version of ubuntu yesterday12:51
danko123456monkey, do you have a movie player, like xine, or something?12:51
Monkeylikesbananonly totem12:51
hajikiyour welcome12:51
Monkeylikesbananand xmms12:51
soganessand with a few properly placed kernel commands got the thing to hibernate12:51
danko123456ok, try playing it there...dunno.12:51
Monkeylikesbananok ill try totem12:51
soganessbut today afters some updates nada12:51
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davidhi12:51
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danko123456nothing, eh?12:52
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danko123456david^12:52
Monkeylikesbanandanko12345, totem is still freezing12:52
Monkeylikesbananforce quit12:52
danko123456ok, sudo apt-get install xine-ui12:52
Monkeylikesbananok12:52
danko123456do you have universe enabled?12:52
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danko123456david: working?12:53
Monkeylikesbanandanko12345, package not avail12:53
Monkeylikesbananhas no install candidate12:53
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daviddanko123456, nope12:53
daviddanko123456,  what was that r command again?12:54
danko123456yeah, you need to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change everything there to this: http://pastebin.com/290397 .12:54
danko123456courtesy of nickrud.12:54
Monkeylikesbananme?12:54
danko123456that is fine, dont worry about that one, david.12:54
danko123456yes, sorry.12:54
danko123456do that, Monkeylikesbanan.12:54
Monkeylikesbananok12:54
daviddanko123456, i upped to find it12:54
daviddanko123456,  why i ask12:54
daviddanko123456, is that on grub i now had a choice between k7 and 38612:55
davidand now it reads k7...12:55
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david2.6.10-5-k712:55
davidstill no worky though12:55
MathechystWhose password must I change to run synaptic?12:55
Fator_DeeMathechyst: yours12:55
Fator_DeeMathechyst: root password is your password12:55
danko123456david: you need to to the following, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7 && sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-k7 do that in a terminal, paste please.12:55
danko123456or something like that, Fator_Dee./12:56
Fator_Deesomething like that12:56
danko123456david, the command, btw is uname -r tells you the kernel name, I think.12:56
daviddavid@computer:~$  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7 && sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-k712:56
davidReading package lists... Done12:56
davidBuilding dependency tree... Done12:56
davidlinux-restricted-modules-k7 is already the newest version.12:56
david0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded.12:56
davidReading package lists... Done12:56
Fator_Deenow exactly, but the message goes through :-p12:56
davidBuilding dependency tree... Done12:56
davidlinux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-k7 is already the newest version.12:56
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david0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded.12:56
daviddavid@computer:~$12:56
danko123456david, please use http://pastebin.com .12:56
MathechystFator_Dee: I use both and I get "child terminated with status 1"12:56
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daviddanko123456,  sry12:57
danko123456ok, both are installed, no need to be sorry to me...12:57
danko123456easier to read there.12:57
Fator_DeeMathechyst: both?12:57
daviddanko123456,  i appreciate the help12:57
spanglesontoasthey how do I get desktop icons12:57
MathechystFator_Dee: tried running it twice12:57
daviddanko123456,  but this is just too weir12:57
danko123456Mathechyst: full disk? df -l in a terminal will tell you.12:57
danko123456david, what are you installing, the binary driver?12:57
danko123456for ati? looked at the wiki for that?12:57
Mathechystdanko123456: plenty of disk space12:58
danko123456Mathechyst: as well, you are likely not a sudoer.12:58
daviddanko123456,  thers a detailed post in the forums, but the first steop is the package12:58
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456  what should i copy from that pastebin site12:58
spanglesontoasthow do I get normal icons for gnome12:58
danko123456spanglesontoast: you check a box.12:58
danko123456which icons?12:58
spanglesontoastthe ones on the desktop12:59
spanglesontoastlike home folder12:59
daviddanko123456,  most others steps work, but i get no result, and others have a similar error ,and thier problem was forgetting to install the package12:59
danko123456erplace teh wholke file you get when yyuo sudo gedit /etc/apt./.. with what is in that pastebin.12:59
danko123456spanglesontoast: www.ubuntuguide.org has that.12:59
danko123456dont follow everything it says, tho.12:59
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danko123456just what you need, as,kk first here if you should follow other things there, some aere not a good idea.12:59
spanglesontoastah ok01:00
danko123456it is installed now, for sure, david.01:00
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456 anywhere in particular in the /etc/apt, that it needs to go01:00
yonilQ: How do I install jdk ? ( I've download the self extracting binary, where am I supposed to put it in order for all applications to work? )01:00
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danko123456spanglesontoast: tell me if you canmt find it on that gude.01:00
danko123456guiode01:00
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danko123456yonil: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:00
daviddank, ima get some food, thanks!01:00
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danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: I gave you the exact commabnd.01:01
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danko123456sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:01
Monkeylikesbananand that opened the sources.list01:01
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danko123456then, replace everything in that file with the pastebin.01:01
Monkeylikesbananok01:01
danko123456k01:01
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spanglesontoastI never knew that ubuntu gave away free copies01:02
glickyeah whenever i try to start gnome or any gnome applications it takes a good 5-10 minutes to load01:02
Monkeylikesbananok done01:02
danko123456yonil: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java .01:02
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: then, go into a terminal again, and install that same thing again01:02
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danko123456sudo apt-get install xine-ui you have all01:02
danko123456nono01:02
danko123456first, sudo apt-get update01:02
danko123456then that01:03
Monkeylikesbananthanks.. do you mind giveing me the command to get it01:03
_phoenix_can anyone suggest why when I login to "gnome default" my login freezes at "metacity window manager" but when I login in to "gnome failsafe" the login process completes?01:03
danko123456glick, top tell me if any process is on top...01:03
glicki dont understand why compiling a kernel would make gnome not load up01:03
danko123456_phoenix_: hoary?01:03
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yonildanko123456, thanks01:03
Protequehey. I just installed ubuntu on my ibook. when going to sleep it has problems when waking up. it just shows some kind of debug from the kernel. looks like it is showing dmesg or something. what can cause this?01:03
danko123456welcome01:03
_phoenix_danko123456: yes01:03
danko123456_phoenix_: normal pc?01:03
danko123456Proteque: I have the same one...I dont have a fix, tho...01:04
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glickdanko123456: i saw Xorg at the top for a second01:04
_phoenix_danko123456: amd64 3200+ but otherwise stock, it runs mandrake,fedora,suse etc.01:04
glickbut i dont see gnome on there anywhere01:04
Protequedanko123456: on an ibook or is it a general ubuntu problem on laptops?01:04
Dave2|LaptopHow would I get a more recent version of automake than 1.4 to be the default?01:04
_phoenix_danko123456: hoary i38601:04
danko123456_phoenix_: um...not sure.01:04
danko123456iBook specific, I think.01:04
Dave2|Laptop(i.e. is there a proper way?)01:05
MathechystHmm ... maybe that sudoers bit works a little too well :)01:05
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Protequedanko123456: okay. could be some 2.6 issue. used debian on this book earlier with 2.4 kernel. had no problems there.01:05
danko123456glick: did you try nice program-name after starting the program?01:05
danko123456Proteque: works??? nice sleep and wake?01:05
_phoenix_does metacity have an "autostart" or similiar folder/script?01:05
Protequedanko123456: yes01:05
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Protequedanko123456: worked perfectly there01:06
danko123456Proteque: whcih debian? is it one just installed, I mean, where can I get it?01:06
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Protequedont remember if it was sarge or unstable.01:06
spanglesontoastI like BUM01:06
spanglesontoasthehe01:06
spanglesontoastlol01:06
danko123456hm...I guess Ill try, prolly sarge...01:06
danko123456I mean...the kernel is older...01:07
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Protequedanko123456: allso works perfectly on yellowdog01:07
danko123456I like butts too, but why on #ubuntu?01:07
Protequeso it is solvable in ubuntu too01:07
danko123456right, prolly a kernel tweak...01:07
Protequejust wondering what may cause this01:07
daviddanko123456,  i think i found the problem01:07
danko123456david: I believed in you all the way...01:07
danko123456:)01:07
daviddanko123456, it must be that the packages are restricted, much like all of my hard-drive01:07
danko123456Proteque: look a the wiki,,,it has something about the sleep on iBooks.01:08
danko123456david: well, is it working?01:08
daviddanko123456, which essentially means that if I muck around enough they'll unrestrict01:08
daviddanko123456, nope!01:08
danko123456I want it to work...01:08
Protequewhere can I find the wiki?01:08
danko123456www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki ...well, that was easy.01:08
danko123456:)01:08
daviddanko123456, if I enter enough console commands it eventually lets me write to my HD, so why not unrestrict a module?01:08
danko123456what is so restricted about it, I dont even see.01:09
danko123456whats the forum URL, david?01:09
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, i ran sudo apt-get install xine.. no sucsess01:09
danko123456sudo apt-get install xine-ui01:09
daviddanko123456,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3249501:09
danko123456please use paste01:09
Monkeylikesbanansays you might want to run apt-get update to correct problems01:09
Monkeylikesbanani entered the command correctly01:10
danko123456ok, well, sudo apt-get update01:10
danko123456did you do that?01:10
Monkeylikesbananok01:10
Monkeylikesbanandoing it now01:10
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danko123456sorry, I told you right after the where I told you to insatll xine.01:10
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Monkeylikesbananno prob01:10
danko123456http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto is the one I would try.01:10
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danko123456david.01:10
davidsup01:10
danko123456sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx01:11
hybrid_gothcan someone help me with my mplayer?01:11
hybrid_gothit wont play video01:11
danko123456david, the binary driver is for you up there.01:11
davidohh i've done that before01:11
danko123456and the sudo apt-get nsatll too, daivd.01:11
davidgives me a dif error01:11
danko123456paste it to pastebin01:11
danko123456hybrid_goth: changed the output plugin to esd?01:11
hybrid_gothdanko123456: i just compiled never changed anything01:12
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danko123456ok, well, does it freeze when you push play?01:12
danko123456If so, then great, cause that will fix it...01:12
Monkeylikesbanandanko12345, i am installing xine now01:12
daviddanko123456, http://pastebin.com/29103501:12
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danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: yeah, you should be,..:)01:12
Monkeylikesbananha01:12
hybrid_gothdanko123456: no my whole screen goes black with white lines01:13
danko123456is it full screen?01:13
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, its finished installing, what should i do next01:13
danko123456hybrid, when you play a file?01:13
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: do xine in a terminal01:13
Monkeylikesbananok01:13
hybrid_gothdanko123456: i just mplayer thebroken1.avi01:13
danko123456ah,,,yes, try opening mplayer without a file01:14
danko123456through your menu, or sthg.01:14
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456... brb01:14
danko123456then go to prefs, and change the output plugin to esd.01:14
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hybrid_gothdanko123456: mplayer is terminal based01:14
danko123456mplayer, then:)01:14
hybrid_gothdanko123456: i can only mplayer file01:14
hybrid_gothdanko123456: then what01:14
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danko123456ok, well...01:15
danko123456are you in gnome?01:15
hybrid_gothXFCE01:15
hybrid_gothbut have gtk01:15
reagleBRKLNif i accidently pulled a lib from (-t) unstable, how do i go back to ubuntu version?01:15
danko123456well, open gnome, and go into apps>sound&video>mplayer01:15
danko123456then, open prefs, and change that.01:15
danko123456force version isntall01:15
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hybrid_gothdanko123456: i dont have gnome01:16
hybrid_goththats why i have XFCE01:16
rg58smaamule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:16
rg58smai hava this problkem01:16
reagleBRKLNdanko123456: apt-get install --reinstall -t 1.10 bzflag doesn't do it01:16
danko123456reagleBRKLN: force the version, tehre is an option in synaptic, in the01:16
danko123456package menu, not sure through apt-get;01:16
glickdanko123456: yes of course01:16
danko123456rg58sma: did you by any chance try sudo apt-get install amule?01:16
danko123456glick:)01:17
daviddanko123456,  does this mean anything? http://pastebin.com/29103501:17
reagleBRKLNhuh, nifty in synaptic01:17
danko123456david: sorry, I was gonna get to that.01:17
danko123456what is the flxgears command again>01:17
danko123456something like that.01:17
danko123456glxgears01:17
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danko123456do that in a terminal, david.01:17
danko123456ples.e01:17
rg58smayes+01:17
davidoh error there01:17
rg58smareintall?01:18
danko123456rg58sma: really? and still the error?01:18
daviddanko123456, glxgears: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:18
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danko123456you can try, yes, amule has been known to crash here too.01:18
davidi'm getting an error there because i can't get the package i need01:18
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Nermiehello :D01:18
davidhi Nermie01:18
bassplayerhow do I add a network printer ?01:18
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Nermiebassplayer: through the add printer dialog01:18
rg58smasudo apt-get install amule01:18
rg58smaErr ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-backports/universe amule 2.0.0-1~5.04ubp101:19
Nermiesystem -> administration -> printing01:19
rg58sma  Imposible traer archivo, el servidor dijo 'Security: Bad IP connecting.  '01:19
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bassplayeryeap i know, but what parameters i have to enter ?01:19
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danko123456well, you have some weird repos there.01:19
Nermiebassplayer: it's a gui01:19
danko123456rg58sma: do you need any particular repos in your sources?01:19
Nermie:)01:20
Moder:P01:20
hybrid_gothif i compile frm src then want to upgrade do i need to remove the package that is already there01:20
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Nermiehybrid_goth: nah01:20
=== hybrid_goth is just using breezy
bassplayeryes, but i dont know what i have to put in the host01:20
hybrid_gothNermie: ok ty01:20
Nermiefool!01:20
Moder;] 01:20
AristoMagnusI cannot enable DMA on my 2 HD, how can i enable it01:20
Nermiebassplayer: the ip of the computer ?01:20
danko123456hybrid_goth: try using -nosound as a option for mplayer, tell me hjow that works...01:20
bassplayerthe public ip ?01:20
danko123456haha...01:20
NermieAristoMagnus: sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hd<whatever>01:21
danko123456you guys had a funny /me there...01:21
hybrid_gothdanko123456: ok01:21
AristoMagnusNermie, after restarting the computer, this command is no longer active01:21
Nermieso edit /etc/hdparm.conf01:21
AristoMagnusok01:21
bassplayerthe othe pc have winxp, is that ip ?01:21
Nermiebassplayer: it should have an ip01:22
Nermieor do computername01:22
danko123456if he deleted /usr/X11R6/bin/fgl_glxgears would that be a bad idea?01:22
Nermieif you choose a windows (smb) printer01:22
Nermiedanko123456: that's just a benchmark prog01:22
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hybrid_gothdanko123456: it didnt crash this time i got- FATAL: could not inialize videofilters (-vf) or video output (-vo)01:22
bassplayeris the ip pi that is shown it the network confog in ubuntu ?01:22
danko123456david: sudo rm /usr/X11R6/bin/fgl_glxgears01:22
Nermiebassplayer: well no.. the ip of the machine with the printer attached01:23
Nermiecommon sense01:23
Monkeylikesbanandanko12345 video is playing thanks01:23
danko123456Nermie: do you ahppen to know how to open mplayer from a terminal with no file?01:23
Nermiegmplayer01:23
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: excellent01:23
Nermieg=guo01:23
Monkeylikesbanandanko, and particular settings i should enable01:23
Nermiegui*01:23
AristoMagnusNermie, after configuring the modprobe.d file, how can i reload the config01:23
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: do you need any:)01:23
bassplayerok, i'll try that01:23
NermieAristoMagnus: depmod -a01:24
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Monkeylikesbananill ask if i think i need help.. thank you very much danko12345601:24
AristoMagnusNermie, thanks dude01:24
Nermieuntil the beer kills my brain01:24
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: are you in the states?01:24
Monkeylikesbananyehs01:24
danko123456you may be illegal now, please read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats about dvds......!01:24
danko123456you are welcome, off course...01:25
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Monkeylikesbananthank you......... ill move to canada01:25
danko123456:-p01:25
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danko123456holy cow...01:25
danko123456that was something...01:26
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danko123456Nermie: how about opening that mplayer with no file through terminal?01:27
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ShadowRagewhat's the usual /etc/fstab entry for swap?01:27
Nermiedanko123456: well.. mplayer in terminal expects a file01:27
Nermiegmplayer will give you a gui01:28
danko123456rg58sma, I was gonna  tell himhow to do it, he is so rash....01:28
NermieShadowRage: none01:28
NermieShadowRage: bah.. one sec.. sorry01:28
danko123456wow, hybrid, hear that?01:28
danko123456gmplayer in a terminal.01:28
Nermie/dev/hda4       none            swap    sw              0       001:28
hybrid_gothok01:28
Nermieswitch the dev to be what you want01:28
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danko123456is it on?01:28
hybrid_gothcommand not found gmplayer01:28
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danko123456meh...why froom source?01:29
ShadowRageNermie: thanks.. it's the 3rd flag I neede01:29
ShadowRagethe sw01:29
Nermie:)01:29
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hybrid_gothdanko123456: me? for the stuff that is "restricted"01:29
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danko123456yeah, well, I dunno,....01:29
danko123456specify somehow to use esd as out[ut plugin././.01:29
danko123456ask crimsun, he wouuld likely kno that.01:30
danko123456can you install the one from apt now?01:30
spanglesontoastwhat's the best firewall out there?01:30
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Nermalspanglesontoast: iptables01:30
danko123456firecrazysupahwall.01:30
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spanglesontoastis that normally with ubuntu?01:31
Nermalthough you shouldn't need a firewall01:31
Mathechystbest firewall = disconnect network01:31
Nermalwell.. yeah..01:31
Mathechyst:)01:31
danko123456Mathechyst: set your house on fire...01:32
Nermaliptables is merely a user level tool to kernel level packet filters01:32
ShadowRageNermal: my swap won't mount01:32
danko123456well, not yours.....01:32
NermalI'm not drunk enough yet01:32
ShadowRage/dev/hda7       none            swap    sw              0       001:32
NermalShadowRage: swapon /dev/hda701:32
Nermalas root01:32
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spanglesontoastwhere is iptables?01:32
ShadowRagethanks01:32
glickso does anyone know why gnome is fuckin up just cause i installed a custom kernel01:32
danko123456I would say you aer just about the right drunkness.01:32
Nermalspanglesontoast: apt-get install iptables01:32
ShadowRageNermal: earlier it was giving me command not found01:32
Nermalmaybe install a gui to it as well01:33
danko123456glick gets slow load with gnome after recompiling the kernel...01:33
ShadowRageNermal: explains why my system has been goping haywire over the past few days01:33
NermalShadowRage: hmm :|01:33
Nermalaye01:33
ShadowRagegoing*01:33
Nermalglick: yes..01:33
ShadowRageand the ram usage was 98%01:33
ShadowRage>__>01:33
Nermalbecause you installed a custom kernel ? :)01:33
cccspanglesontoast: try firestarter for example.01:33
Xappehmm, can I reduce the risk of filesystem crash due to bumby train rides somehow? the ubuntu on my ibook is totally screwed after watching some movies on the train01:33
danko123456Nermal: aka dr_obvious...01:33
glickNermal: why?01:33
Nermalaye :D01:33
spanglesontoastso ubuntu not installed?01:33
Nermalwell.. where is it hanging01:33
spanglesontoastwith iptables01:33
danko123456Xappe: wow.01:34
Nermalspanglesontoast: I imagine so01:34
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NermalXappe: make a ram disk and load the movie to there01:34
Nermalglick: well.. tell me01:34
ShadowRageXappe: dont ride the train, or put the lappy on a soft surface that asorbs shock ;D01:34
danko123456glick, nermal asked you where it is hanging, jsut so you know that was for you...01:34
danko123456Xappe: that is weird, tho, was it really bumpy?01:34
Nermalcould be local host name resolution ? ice problems ?01:34
Nermalsocket connection problems01:35
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Nermaletc01:35
glickNermal: when i try to start anything that needs gnome libraries includeing gnome itself, after like 5-10 minutes the program starts01:35
Xappedanko123456: well, quite01:35
Nermalglick: tried stracing an app ?01:35
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danko123456Xappe: I dont remember train rides being that bumpy...01:35
Xappebu I thought anormal laptop would stand some rough handling01:35
glickNermal: no i dont know how to do that01:35
Nermalstrace <command>01:35
danko123456my g4 iBook has withstood some harsh stomping by a mad gf...so...01:35
Xappecould it be that ext3 is extra sensitive?01:36
spanglesontoastwhere can I get libswt-gtk3-java?01:36
danko123456in apt, why is it asking you for that?01:36
Nermalspanglesontoast: erm.. gtk3 aint out yet01:36
Nermalso now you're asking01:36
danko123456yeah, right:)01:36
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NermalXappe: ext3 is very robust01:36
daniel_bhhi01:36
danko123456yo01:36
Nermalmerely ext2 with a journal01:36
daniel_bhI need help with php4 and apache on ubuntu01:36
danko123456Xappe: what are you seeing?01:36
Nermaldaniel_bh: ask away01:37
spanglesontoastmust be an error in that guide then01:37
spanglesontoastsudo apt-get install libswt-gtk3-java01:37
spanglesontoast:(01:37
danko123456on your laptop, what is changed?01:37
Xappeduplicate/bad inodes and blocks01:37
danko123456spanglesontoast: which one?01:37
glickNermal: and that will tell me what?01:37
danko123456Xappe: on the hard drive?01:37
spanglesontoastubuntuguide.org01:37
Nermalglick: a shitload of debugging stuff01:37
Xappedanko123456: yes01:37
Nermalfunction calls etc01:37
danko123456yeah, sometimes it is not very good. for what, spanglesontoast what is the one you are following?01:37
Nermalsystem calls etc01:38
Nermalthe meaning of life01:38
Nermalhow to get laid01:38
danko123456Xappe: so, your hard drive got screwed, hm...01:38
Nermalall the useful stuff01:38
spanglesontoastazureus01:38
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daniel_bhsession is not worling in php4. Session variable is empty01:38
danko123456yeAh yeah...01:38
Nermalgah..sticky space bar.. I really shouldn't have spilt beer over it01:38
daniel_bhand there are 5 cookies01:38
daniel_bh4 empty cookies and one with the data01:38
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Nermaldaniel_bh: hnmmmm.. odd01:38
Nermaldaniel_bh: never seen that in ubunut01:38
danko123456Nermal: there aer minors here, why are you all vice?01:38
Nermalubuntu*01:38
daniel_bhbut Session keeps empty01:38
Nermalare you sure you're using $_SESSION[]  and not the old globals in php 3.x ?01:39
Xappedanko123456: well i'm not that familiar with hdd errors, fixed them with fsck and the system started. but now everything is sluggish and slow...01:39
daniel_bhI am using $_SESSION for sure01:39
Nermaldanko123456: bah.01:39
danko123456spanglesontoast: did that? the sudo command it tells you to?01:39
Nermalhrm01:39
danko123456Xappe: me neither, never had issues with hd..01:40
Nermalhdparm -S <value >01:40
danko123456Nermal: works out there is some gtk3 stuff.01:40
Nermalmake the hdd sleep01:40
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daniel_bhcan anybody send to me the session scope from php.ini? Just to see the one i am using is correct...01:40
spanglesontoastok01:40
danko123456libswt-gtk3-java libswt-gtk3-jni both valid packages.01:40
spanglesontoastdon't worry that package isn't needed01:40
spanglesontoastit works01:40
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danko123456k, cool.01:40
Nermaldaniel_bh: loads of people in ##php will know that :001:40
Nermal:)01:40
daniel_bhok01:41
Xappemy first thought was that it could be the file system crashing due to bumps during read/writes01:41
daniel_bhthanx01:41
Nermalalways helpful there01:41
Nermalnp01:41
spanglesontoastthere a good site to spice up gnome01:41
danko123456coudl be...01:41
NermalXappe: linux normally caches disk stuff01:41
Xappeam I wrong there?01:41
danko123456spanglesontoast: art.gnome.org ww.gnome-look.org01:41
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Nermalwell.. sounds like your disk is on it's way out01:41
Nermalyou could install a smart tool and see what the smart values are01:41
Xappethink I need a reinstall01:42
NermalXappe: apt-get install smartmontools01:42
Nermal:D01:42
Xappebecause I can hardly use the system01:42
spanglesontoastubuntu didn't install on my k601:42
Nermalspanglesontoast: upgrade01:42
Nermalcpus are cheap these days01:42
danko123456too bad they dont fit into old mbos....01:42
spanglesontoastto what?01:43
Nermaldanko123456: aye01:43
Nermalspanglesontoast: I dunno.. some cheap 2ghz thing01:43
Nermalthey're a dime a dozen these days01:43
Nermalwho cares about efficiency.. really.01:43
danko123456well:)01:43
Nermalmmm.. trace01:43
Nermaloops01:44
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Nermalgah. I've consumed a gallon of strong beer01:44
spanglesontoastit's only a cheap server01:44
Nermalah :|01:44
jeff25heh I'm installing ubuntu over the network using pxeboot...01:44
danko123456bah, slow down on that...otherwise you will be conquering the world in a few...nermal.01:44
spanglesontoastjust wondering why I cannot use ubuntu01:44
penguin42hello01:44
danko123456hello all.01:44
Nermaldanko123456: I know :|01:44
Nermallo lo01:44
jeff25hoary is the current stable version right?01:44
Nermalaye01:45
jeff25cool01:45
penguin42can someone try 'hostid' on their ubuntu box and tell me what it gives? Mine gives 7f0100 which is unusually regular for my book01:45
Nermal7f010001:45
Nermalis what I get01:45
pfp7f0100 too01:45
penguin42hmmmmmmm01:45
Nermalwe're all the same :D01:45
=== penguin42 me thinks it is using something wrong to calculate the hostid
penguin42(OK so there is no hostid - but whatever it is using it is not very useful!)01:46
pfpwhat's this hostid anyway? :)01:46
penguin42part of coreutils01:46
cafuegoeither that or you have the same mobo/nic01:46
Nermalnah01:46
penguin42I think it is using the IP of the loopback interface01:46
cafuegoall generic x86 crap? ;-)01:47
penguin42nod - anyone got some non x86 stuff to hand?01:47
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cafuegoi can boot the imac, just a moment01:47
Nermal64 beads01:47
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cafuegoand I can reboot the desktop to amd6401:48
cafuegobut erm01:48
penguin42and on Fedora it is giving something more unique01:48
cafuegoit's busy01:48
penguin42don't worry01:48
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cafuegodebian sarge gives me 7dca8f28 and a0a410a01:49
Nermalhum01:49
penguin42ok01:49
Nermalone sec01:49
Nermal4450d25b <- debian sarge - UML host01:49
cafuegocan you ftp the debian binary to ubuntu and run it?01:49
cafuegoSee what that does...01:50
Nermala8c00200 <- gentoo dual celeron01:50
jeff25UML is sweet01:50
Nermalaye01:50
Nermaltis what my site runs on :)01:50
jeff25I run all my crappy linux module code in UML01:50
danko123456UML???Unified Modelling Language?01:50
jeff25so I don't hose my own system01:50
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Nermaluser mode linux01:50
penguin42danko123456: User Mode Linux01:50
danko123456ah...01:50
Nermallinux within linux01:50
danko123456I was like what...01:50
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jeff25Nermal: you're running ubuntu all in UML ?01:50
Nermalrussian doll linux if you will01:51
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Nermaljeff25: no.. my hosting provider does UML hosts01:51
jeff25what do you run inside each UML ?01:51
pfp"russian doll linux" :DD01:51
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Nermaljeff25: I have one UML host.. with them.. I run my websites and email from them01:51
ShadowRagehey01:51
jeff25Nermal: oh cool01:51
ShadowRagethat would be a good name01:51
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jeff25Nermal: is that so if you get hacked the whole system doesn't go down?01:52
jasmuzHello all01:52
pfpstrace says hsotid tries  to read /etc/hostid01:52
jasmuzanybody has run succesfully Wine?01:52
Nermaljeff25: no, it's so I get root at a cheaper price than colocating :P01:52
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jeff25Nermal: oh01:52
Nermal:)01:52
jeff25Nermal: what do they run inside the UML? (what verion of linux) ?01:52
Nermaldebian woody / sarge01:52
jeff25ah01:53
Nermalor gentoo (local compile farm) or redhat01:53
jeff25that's a good idea01:53
Nermalaye01:53
Nermallocal mirrors too and sms watchdogs on the systems01:53
Nermalall good stuff01:53
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cafuego17f00 on ubuntu imac01:53
jeff25how many UMLs are on one host?01:53
Nermaland my company is paying for it atm :D01:53
glicksteryeah so i am runnin strace gnome-terminal01:53
jasmuzNermal, jeff25 have you guys run Wine?01:53
Nermaljeff25: they run about 2001:53
glicksterand it doesnt do shit for me01:54
Nermaldual xeon / 2 - 4gb ram01:54
penguin42cafuego: endian safe not am I!01:54
glicksteri dont know what these debug statements mean01:54
Nermaljasmuz: noo :|01:54
jeff25jasmuz: yeah01:54
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jeff25I don't really like wine01:54
jasmuzjeff25, has it worked for you?01:54
danko123456glickster: that is why you pastebhin them, and ask waht they mean,01:54
jeff25jasmuz: not really01:54
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jeff25jasmuz: depends on the application01:54
cafuego@find bin/hostid01:54
jasmuzjeff25,  im asking before i start fiddeling01:54
jeff25jasmuz: some apps work fine, others don't01:54
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'bin/hostid' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/hostid) in base/coreutils.01:54
penguin42cafuego: hostid is part of coreutils01:55
=== cafuego knows now
jasmuzjeff25, like what apps gave you probs?01:55
spanglesontoastso how do I edit iptables?01:55
cafuegospanglesontoast: Normally you'd delete and insert rules.01:56
cafuegospanglesontoast: if you use some frontend, use that instead.01:56
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pfpspanglesontoast: iptables -L -vn == list stuff, iptables -A <chain> -rules -foo == append01:56
penguin42thanks all01:56
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glicksterit hangs on conect(18, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(16001), sin_addr("127.0.0.1")}, 1601:56
glicksterconnect(18, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(16001), sin_addr("127.0.0.1")}, 1601:57
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danko123456firewall?01:57
jeff25jasmuz: I don't remember.01:58
jeff25jasmuz: just install it and play with it01:58
cafuegoit must be, otheriwase it's just fail with 'connection refused'01:58
Nermalspanglesontoast: use a frontend01:58
danko123456ifconfig, perhaps that will tell you something, glickster01:58
jasmuzjeff25, i will01:58
Nermalglickster: thought so01:58
eoniaHey guys. My ubuntu live went into stand-by with a screensaver, and demands a password to "re-login." So. What's the password? I've tried the intuitive approach to no avail.01:58
cafuegoeonia: your password01:58
Nermalyou haven't compiled a kernel with loopback interface support01:58
Nermalthat's your problem01:58
Nermalcompile a kernel with loopback support01:58
Nermal:)01:58
cafuegoeonia: Oh, you didn't give it one h... hmm.01:58
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glicksterNermal, what do you mean thouhtso?01:58
eoniacafuego: I don't have a password :) It's a live cd :)01:59
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Nermalglickster: it's normally something tcp related01:59
Nermalso do what I said01:59
cafuegoeonia: Did you try a blank pass or 'ubuntu' ?01:59
glicksterNermal, i have lo running01:59
justineonia: hit control-alt-f1 and set one01:59
glicksteraccording to ifconfig01:59
Nermalglickster: d0h01:59
shortcircuitso why dont i use breezy yet?01:59
eoniacafuego: yes, I tried the usual suspects01:59
pfpeonia: empty (just enter) doesn't work?01:59
=== Nermal sighs
cafuegoshortcircuit: breezy is bro-o-o-ken01:59
shortcircuiti just put colony1 on a laptop01:59
cafuegoshortcircuit: See /topic01:59
Nermalcan you ping it ?01:59
eoniapfp: no, ubuntu, none, and no entry does not work01:59
jeff25I'm installing ubuntu on my laptop with pxeboot.  Works good02:00
cafuegoeonia: what justin said, ctrl-alt-F1 and set a password.02:00
owlmanattHow can I get the first boot stuff to rerun?02:00
danko123456haha, eonia:) stupid concept of thast x screensaver...no password:)02:00
eoniawill that work even though I'm not logged in yet? :)02:00
eoniaI mean, with the screensaver going02:00
Stalagnahey, every time i try and download the macromedia flash plugin it downloads and says install fails, any suggestions?02:00
justincould probably also killall xscreensaver from there as well02:00
glicksterdo i need CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP?02:00
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firepolhi there, i have a problem with GNOME: when i login i only see the background, but no menus, no iconms, nothing else appears. do u know if there is a gnome logfile to check to see what was the error opr what's happening? I installed kubuntu and if i login using kde: no problem.02:00
cafuegoeonia: f1 is a copnsole (that should be already logged in) just try...02:01
danko123456Stalagna: from apt-get?02:01
glicksteri have CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP02:01
Stalagnano through the browser02:01
shortcircuitare the breezy repos ok to use?02:01
eoniaok. Thanks justin, cefeugo. Brb :)02:01
jasmuzTake care02:01
shortcircuitother then broken as hell?02:01
danko123456shortcircuit: in one word, no...02:01
danko123456firepol: is everything woriing, tho, just no icons?02:01
cafuegoshortcircuit: If you install breezy, you will not be able to use X. At all. It's broken.02:02
danko123456Stalagna: use synaptic to isntall flash support.02:02
shortcircuiti figured that much out alredy02:02
owlmanattIs there any way to run the firstboot stuff again after tge furstboot?02:02
cafuegoshortcircuit: So why do you need to ask then?02:02
danko123456owlmanatt: more info, please.02:02
kentfirepol, one solution to figure out what went wrong, is to rightclick (if you can) on the background and select "run terminal" and start "gnome-panel" from that terminal.02:02
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FR500hello02:03
Moderhi02:03
FR500my usb1.1 drive doesn't mount automatically02:03
FR500should it work?02:03
danko123456firepol: oh, no panel?02:03
paxmasterhello; could i use debian packages and how02:03
glicksterdoes gnome need crypto loopback?02:04
firepoldanko: i have the impression nothing is loading02:04
firepolkent: i cant do that02:04
danko123456paxmaster: yeah, add the debian repository to apt, and then, apt-get update, apt-get instal package, remove repositories, sudo apt-get update02:04
danko123456firepol, so clicking the dektop does nothing?02:05
firepoldanko: no panel, nothing, even the background is not the official gnome background... i dont know what i did but once i turned on my computer and i had this problem02:05
jeff25if you install ubuntu do you HAVE to keep using gnone?02:05
jeff25or can I install another WM02:05
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danko123456ah...firepol, I had similar issues at one time, sorry, not sure what to do...02:05
firepoldanko: exactly, clicking the desktop: nothing happens. if i load KDE, KDE works02:05
danko123456jeff25: yes, you can.02:05
justinfirepol: doesn't the gdm menu give you the option for failsafe gnome session?02:06
paxmasterwhat about the t option in apt-get02:06
jeff25danko123456: does fluxbox work?02:06
firepoljustin: now im using KDM02:06
danko123456paxmaster: you would have to tell me the package, and that, Ill tell yhou more.02:06
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danko123456jeff25: eys, it does.02:06
jeff25danko123456: can I have both KDE and Gnone on the same machine?02:06
danko123456yes, and 15 others, I do...02:06
StalagnaDanko: flash support does not show up as an option to download02:06
danko123456hjsut a sec,.02:06
poningruwhats the upgrade for firefox for?02:06
firepoljustin, is there a way to select a failsafe run from gdm?02:06
jeff25danko123456: do does it matter if I install ubuntu or kubuntu?02:06
paxmasterok xchm02:06
jeff25danko123456: I mean does it matter which one02:07
danko123456Stalagna: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla02:07
firepoljeff: no problem02:07
danko123456jeff, not to me:-p02:07
naliothjeff25: do you have the kubuntu install disk?02:07
firepoljefF: just install flusxbox, from gm or kdm u'll be able to select fluxbox02:07
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jeff25nalioth: yeah02:07
eoniare: justin, cafuego: it worked. using sudo passwd of course :) thanks for the tip02:07
danko123456paxmaster, sudo apt-get install xchm02:07
naliothjeff25: i just got here, so don't know the situation02:08
danko123456jeff25: session is what you need to click on once there.02:08
danko123456nalioth: nothing, just wondering about wms, can he use more, and how, and that...02:08
jeff25danko123456: I mean if I'm going to have a ton of WMs installed, which install disk should I use ?02:08
danko123456either, I knew that is what you meant:)02:08
danko123456I was jj.02:08
jeff25oh heh02:08
danko123456I think both should be same for that.02:08
jeff25okay :)02:09
StalagnaDanko: couldn't find package02:09
jeff25I'll just use ubuntu02:09
jeff25install disk02:09
danko123456ok, Stalagna, follow this. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:09
firepoldanko, u said u had similar issues, dont u remember what u did to fix it?02:10
firepolif there are some gnome config files, if i delete them it shlould recreate them correctly, and it should qwork, question is what are the files to delete?02:10
danko123456no, I never did, it went away, then yaboot got screwed, and so on.02:10
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naliothdanko123456: jeff25 i have about 8 WMs on my poor little ibook02:11
danko123456Stalagna: make your sources.list into what it says here. http://pastebin.com/29105402:11
dElAvA<dElAvA> hey guys Im running into a problem with variuos liveCDs with resolution02:11
dElAvA<dElAvA> Im getting multiple vertical screens out of sync02:11
dElAvA<dElAvA> is this my monitor or vidio card and what specs can I change to get started02:11
dElAvA<dElAvA> the only two Live distros I dont have a problem with are DSL02:11
dElAvA<dElAvA> and slax but even slax defaults to 640x48002:11
dElAvA<dElAvA> any thoughts?02:11
danko123456nalioth: you are a female, eh?:)02:11
dElAvA^also with ubuntu02:11
danko123456I though you were a guy:)02:11
firepoli dont want to reinstall ubuntu in order to fix this... there should be a solution, now im using kde but id like to use gnome02:11
naliothdanko123456: jeff25 even use some of the them (other than kde/gnome) sometimes02:11
danko123456nalioth: just used 9wm today, pretty cool.02:11
naliothdanko123456: don't know where you got that idea (i think i do, now that i remember)i'm a gruff male taxi driver02:12
dElAvAits the nic I think02:12
cafuegodoobiedoobiedoo02:12
danko123456nalioth: that guy saying you are pregnant...02:12
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paulgnuhello02:13
danko123456hey02:13
paulgnuespa;ol02:14
naliothdanko123456: unfortunatly that guy is not all there (ya can hear the 6-pack sloshin, if ya know what i mean)02:14
danko123456delava, well, you have a graphics card?02:14
danko123456haha,,,yeah,...02:14
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danko123456I was like, what???02:14
danko123456kool, thats settled, then:)02:14
dElAvAyes danko02:14
dElAvAits a nvidia02:14
naliothpaulgnu: hablamos espanol en el #ubuntu-es02:14
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danko123456did you look into the xorg.conf file, with specifyin the refresh rates, and what not?02:14
dElAvAhow can I find that info for my monitor02:15
danko123456through reading the fine manual:)02:16
dElAvAId rtfm if I had it :)02:16
danko123456get it off the web...02:16
Shuddertrixsome older monitors list them on the back. Harness the power of Google, try your monitor's model.02:17
danko123456maybe:-/02:17
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pfpgoogle <monitor> HorizSync02:17
ShuddertrixIf Google isn't your thing, then use $SEARCH-ENGINE02:17
zazeemanyone know how to get icons on desktop after installing games from cedega?02:18
dElAvAactually if I remember right ubuntu does it even in text mode02:18
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FR500zazeem, do u have registered cedega?02:18
dElAvAthe text is stagerd02:18
jason^what dhcp client does ubuntu use by default?02:18
zazeemya02:18
thenukejason^: dhclient02:18
FR500why don't u use point2play?02:19
jason^thanks thenuke02:19
danko123456zazeem: I know how to make gnome have, and not have any icons on the desktop at all, and I know how to put the trash, and those icons on the desktop, if that is related.02:19
zazeempoint2play??02:19
thenukejason^: happy to help you02:19
shortcircuitthe university of minnesota hacked my firefox, it always starts with their site, my home page is set to something else, ive tryed deleting my .mozilla folder, even reinstalling firefox02:19
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shortcircuitnuttin works02:19
FR500zazeem, it's a frontendo02:19
Shuddertrixzazeem: point2play creates icons IIRC, you can just create a launcher however.02:19
naliothshortcircuit: try "about:config"02:19
naliothshortcircuit: in the address bar02:19
FR500zaydana, anyways, you can create a launcher: "cedega /path_to_game/game_exe.exe"02:19
naliothshortcircuit: be careful, you could really add cruftiness02:20
zazeemhmm02:20
zazeemk ill try02:20
shortcircuitis that from my home folder?02:20
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dElAvAk wish my luck02:20
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shortcircuitnalioth, whare is this file?02:21
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danko123456(19:20:59) nalioth: shortcircuit: try "about:config"   ..1:08) nalioth: shortcircuit: in the address bar02:21
zazeemshould i have point2play?02:21
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Shuddertrixabout:config is the firefox raw configuration. type it in the address bar.02:22
naliothshortcircuit: open your university of mn firefox, and instead of putting www.google.com in the address bar, put "about:config" (without the """)02:22
danko123456zazeem: what exactly are you trying to do??02:22
danko123456I dont get it.02:22
shortcircuiti know i got to it02:22
razfollowing a post on installing mplayer, i get to the point where i "make" (compile?).. so after some time.. i get this msg: "collect2: ld returned 1 exit status02:22
razmake: *** [mplayer]  Error 102:22
raz".. any ideas?02:22
Shuddertrixzazeem: it's highly recommended that you do use p2p, but it's not required.. get it from transgaming.com/download.php02:22
danko123456raz, there is a mplayer in apt-get./02:22
shortcircuitnalioth, i was wondering if this was some config file on my system02:23
razdanko123456, yes, but this one compiles it according to your machine/specs..02:23
naliothshortcircuit: yes it is.02:23
naliothshortcircuit: it is your firefox config02:23
shortcircuitin my home .mozilla dir?02:23
naliothshortcircuit: search it for "universityofminnesota.edu" or whatever02:23
danko123456raz, maybe this helps... http://pastebin.com/29105602:24
naliothshortcircuit: you can manually edit the files in your .mozilla/mozilla-firefox/ dirs, but about:config is easier02:24
shortcircuiti see02:24
danko123456raz, it involves reading, tho...not a lot///02:24
shortcircuitthanks alot, i never knew this02:24
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razdanko123456, alright, thanks, will retry compiling it..02:26
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glickok something weird id goin on02:26
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spinifexhow do I get `aclocal` ?02:27
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glickfor one thing upon boot, my ethernet is not turned on02:27
glickand i ror temp failure in name resolution02:27
glickwhen it starts starting services02:27
glicki have to manually run ifconfig eth0 up02:27
glickand dhclient02:27
danko123456glick, the ror is normal.02:28
fishynetduring the ubuntu install, can you choose the FS you want to use?02:29
pfpspinifex: i think the autoconf package has it02:29
danko123456fishynet: yes, oc.02:29
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zazeemhow do i make a launcher in toolbar for cedega games??02:31
zazeeminstalled steam02:31
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holycowhey i have an existential question for everyone02:31
IIIEarsIf there is an .sh file create a link and drag it to the desk02:31
glickdanko123456, i didnt get that when i ran the default kernels02:31
holycowis it wrong to use a microsoft mouse with a linux install?02:31
glickalso gnome wasnt b0rkin on me02:32
glickbut the default kernels didnt support my hardare02:32
Monkeylikesbanancan someone help me... i have mounted my floppy drive but i cant get write access02:32
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spinifexpfp: I installed that package.  Do I want the 'autoconf-archive' package too?02:32
IIIEarsthere is and app called smeg simple menu editor for gnome tha might work for you also (Amaranth made it)02:32
danko123456glick, always happens here, prolly related to your localhost, if you are on dhcp/cable, pppoe always has that ror.02:32
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: how did you mount it?02:33
danko123456holycow: yeah...didnt you know?02:33
glickdanko123456, but why doesnt my eth automatically come up?02:33
glickanymore02:33
Monkeylikesbanansudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy02:33
danko123456not sure, maybe related to the lo thing, did you fix that?02:33
Monkeylikesbananlo thing?02:34
danko123456not you.02:34
Monkeylikesbanano02:34
spinifex=[  nope, still no aclocal02:34
razdanko123456, retried compiling.. still get this error after i 'make':02:34
razcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status02:34
razmake: *** [mplayer]  Error 102:34
danko123456 sudo chmod +wxr /media/floppy02:34
danko123456raz, did you configure?02:34
razyes02:34
danko123456the chmod is for you Monkeylikesbanan.02:34
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456 should i unmount first02:34
danko123456nope, should be fine.02:35
Monkeylikesbananok02:35
Monkeylikesbananths02:35
danko123456try, then thank:)02:35
danko123456raz, show me everything you do in a pastebin.02:35
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zazeemcan someone help me?? im tryin to make a launcher for steam but cant figure it out this is the command that starts steam /home/zazeem/TransGaming_Drive/Program\ Files/Valve/Steam/Steam.exe any ideas??02:36
zazeemwould like icon on desktop02:36
zazeem:/02:36
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, entered that command, nothing happened02:36
Monkeylikesbananshould i edet /etc/fstab02:37
Mestapheleshas anyone noticed that the hoary efax-gtk version is 2.0.5a, yet the dev's site does't list this version?02:37
zazeemhow do i edit the x11/x86 config??02:38
zazeemneed to get rid of high resolutions :/02:38
nickrudzazeem, the easiest way is to add a custom launcher to the toolbar, and drag it to the desktop02:38
zazeemhow do i do that02:38
zazeem?02:38
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Mestapheleswell do you know where the config is?02:39
glickdanko123456, yeah i removed the ppp startup script from my runlevel directory and it still does it02:39
zazeemno02:39
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: yeah, nothing is supposed to happen.02:39
danko123456can you write to it now?02:39
zazeemits just a system cfg02:39
Monkeylikesbananno02:39
nickrudright click the panel, add to panel, custom launcher02:39
Mestaphelesnano it- it's the easiest02:39
danko123456glick, I am not raelly confident I could help you, tho.02:39
danko123456sorry:(02:39
Mestaphelesdon't know?  locate it02:39
razdanko123456, is there a way to have terminal log to a txt file?02:39
zazeemi trid this02:39
Mestapheleshow?02:39
danko123456yes, raz, why again?02:40
nickrudzazeem, I just tested it with gedit02:40
danko123456oh, well, copy and paste to a http://pastebin.com02:40
Mestaphelesuse the locate command02:40
zazeemtested what?02:40
zazeemnickrud*02:40
Mestapheleslocate THENAMEOFTHEFILE02:40
nickrudzazeem, see Mestapheles02:41
zazeemnickrud, this is path /home/zazeem/TransGaming_Drive/Program\ Files/Valve/Steam/Steam.exe02:41
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, i have /etc/fstab open in gedit.. set as rw for fd0... still no write access02:41
zazeemmesta?02:41
zazeemlocate what file02:41
zazeem??02:41
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: ok, lets get on this...02:41
zazeemhere it is /home/zazeem/TransGaming_Drive/Program\ Files/Valve/Steam/Steam.exe02:41
nickrudzazeem, you already did :)02:41
jeff25what's the fastest way to transfer files between machines?02:41
Mestaphelesnano /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:41
jeff25on a LAN02:41
danko123456please ls /media/fd0 and paste the output to a pastebin, then also, sudo ls /media/fd002:41
nickrudi don't use wine, but i think it's wine /path/to/file02:42
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MestaphelesX's conf is always under /etc/X1102:42
Mestaphelessudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:42
Monkeylikesbananok02:42
calamarijeff25: ftp?02:42
DeFijeff25, scp02:42
razdanko123456, well, i would copy/paste to pastebin everything im doing in terminal, but 'make' generates lots of text and would like to be able to log it to a TXT... know how?02:42
calamariDeFi: that's not as fast (encryption)02:42
zazeemtried it mesta02:42
glickanyone knoe what ror: temp failure in name resolution means at bootup?02:42
glickfor some reason it doesnt start my network interface02:42
jeff25DeFi: scp is encrpypted so it's slower02:43
DeFitrue calamari, always been fast enough 4 me02:43
danko123456yes, make >file.txt I think...02:43
zazeemim looking for the one that has screen resolutions so i can delete high ones same command i used last install i just forgot02:43
Mestaphelescd /etc/X11/02:43
Mestaphelesdo that02:43
danko123456make > ile.txt02:43
zazeemk02:43
zazeemnow what02:43
Mestaphelesdo "ls"02:43
zazeemk02:43
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Mestapheleswhat does it show?02:43
zazeembunch of stuff02:43
poningruguys I had a question what is the update for firefox for?02:44
Mestaphelesyes02:44
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: you always need to post the URL of your pastebin.02:44
Mestaphelesany file ending in .conf ?02:44
zazeemya xorg02:44
poningruanyone know?02:44
Mestaphelesthere you go02:44
zazeemgedit xorg02:44
Mestaphelesno02:44
danko123456poningru: which update? the 1.0.4 thing? extras/addons/extensions..I think...02:44
calamarijeff25: I'm not sure about http.. it always seemed slightly faster than ftp.. but that could just be my imagination02:44
zazeemhow do i gedit it02:44
xiaogilwhat command line can i use to replace all the 'a' by 'b' in a text file ?02:44
Mestaphelesyou need to run sudo to edit and save that file02:44
poningruthe one released today02:44
zazeemo i got thnx <302:45
zazeemisnt there also an nvidia line to add used to be in ubuntu guide but not anymore02:45
zazeemlike agp 102:45
MestaphelesI don't use gedit as sudo but sudo gedit xorg.conf should work02:45
danko123456poningru: havent heard of it yet.02:45
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Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, im not really sure what you would like.. should i give you a pastebin of my fstab?02:45
jeff25calamari: trying to max out my gigabit net here ... need to backup 60gigs02:45
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Mestaphelesdon't use nvidia, they are evil02:46
danko123456no, just ls /media/fd0 and paste the output to the pastebin, and also sudo ls /media/fd002:46
zazeem:P02:46
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: ^02:46
X7C!02:46
zazeemlol02:46
poningrudanko123456: you didnt upgrade yet?02:46
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zazeemwow cedega has worst support channel ever.02:46
calamarijeff25: Downloader for X, perhaps? :)02:46
danko123456Ive noticed the update icon:)02:46
hybrid_gothhello all02:46
holycowMestapheles, maybe, but no one else comes close to their level of performance particularly in terms of drivers :/02:46
danko123456hey, goth.02:46
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, entered that commaant in terminal, and nothing02:47
zazeemmestapheles, any idea how to make an app launcher for a cedega game?02:47
Mestapheleszazeem: anyway find out what out you got to edit and save it.02:47
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zazeemi did02:47
hybrid_gothdanko123456: hows it goin02:47
danko123456there is no update in mine, poningru...02:47
jeff25calamari: I've got 4 ftp's going all at 50Megs/sec02:47
zazeemdone wit that :) thanks 302:47
danko123456k, I guess:)02:47
jeff25calamari: this should do the trick02:47
poningruwtf02:47
calamarijeff25: nice :)02:47
poningruhmm02:47
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: unm, just paste whatever it does, tho.02:47
X7Ccan i take out the knoppix cd one it loaded?02:47
Monkeylikesbananok02:47
Mestaphelesdon't run that stuff.  sorry.  For that kind of stuff you have to do your own reading02:47
zazeemok02:47
zazeemused to gimme an icon after an install02:47
danko123456X7C: is this #knoppix:)02:47
zazeemdunno why it stopped02:47
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danko123456maybe you can, maybe not.02:48
X7Cthey don't answer me there :(02:48
hitchhiker|fakehi02:48
Mestapheleshi holycow02:48
danko123456well, try taking it out, whats the worst that could happen?02:48
hitchhiker|fakeo.O02:48
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danko123456prolly needed, tho.02:48
glickdoes anyone have any idea why gnome takes forever to load and i get name lookup failure at system boot, and my eth card isnt starteD?02:48
glicki compiled a custom kernel02:48
glickbut that same kernel works flawlessly in debian02:48
Mestapheleszazeem: in the future, if you can't find a file "locate FILE".  you could do a "sudo updatedb" before though to update your database02:49
naliothbrb02:49
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Mestaphelesand you can less it if its a really long output02:50
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Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, http://pastebin.com/29106702:51
danko123456sweet, thanks.02:51
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danko123456ok, now, "vi g"in a terminal, no "02:51
danko123456then, i and insert one leter into the file, escape, and shift+zz02:52
danko123456then, mv g /media/floppy02:52
danko123456then, if that dont work, sudo mv g /media/floppy02:52
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Mestaphelesso i take it nobody is using efax-gtk?02:53
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danko123456IIIEars is for sure,ask him...02:53
janushello02:53
danko123456hey, janus.02:53
Monkeylikesbanannot sure if i did it right... "mv: cannot create regular file media/flopy/g permission denied02:54
IIIEarsHello! :)02:54
janusi am french ubuntu02:54
danko123456ok, well, create a file called g, in your folder, please.02:54
danko123456or any small text file, please.02:54
MestaphelesIIIEars: you using effax-gtk ?02:54
danko123456in your folder where you are.02:54
janusyes02:54
Monkeylikesbanannamed g02:54
danko123456janus: ubuntu-fr also maybve works...02:54
danko123456wwell..02:55
danko123456":02:55
IIIEarsNo - I don't thinks so. - how do i see?02:55
glickall gnome programs hang at that call to connect()02:55
danko123456sure, yeah, g is a fine name:)02:55
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, file "g" was created in home folder02:55
danko123456k, mv ~/g /media/floppy02:55
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danko123456then, if you get permission error, sudo same command02:55
nickrudMestapheles, I've used efax-gtk before02:56
Monkeylikesbanansame, permission denied msg02:56
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jfclavetteHello, I've just installed Eclipse and CDT.  Everything works fine but whenever I try to build a Project, make spouts the following error: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/../../../crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized02:56
Monkeylikesbananok02:56
danko123456on both, Monkeylikesbanan? please paste the output again, if its not too hard?02:57
Monkeylikesbananok02:57
jfclavetteI also opened a terminal and running make directly does the same.02:57
danko123456jfclavette: did you just get the installation file from eclipse?02:57
jfclavetteyes02:57
danko123456ok, that is as much as I can tell you about that.02:58
MestaphelesI just go it running.  It freezes, doesn't deposit sent faxes into sent faxes folder. Pretty easy to set up. but I wonder why hoary lists 2.0.5a and the dev's site skips over it02:58
danko123456fags...:)02:58
nickrudMestapheles, I said I used it, I never said I got anything done :)02:58
danko123456I hate al the hype":)02:58
Mestaphelesnickrud:3.0.1 is the lastest dev'd version02:59
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Mestapheleslol02:59
Mestaphelesdid it not work?02:59
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456 http://pastebin.com/29106802:59
nickrudMestapheles, kdeprintfax from openoffice, and hylafax was my solution.03:00
penguinpartyhi all . . . ive been fighting with alsa for too many days . . . I really want to get it fixed03:00
danko123456hehe, Monkeylikesbanan do the sudo again.03:00
Monkeylikesbanansure03:00
danko123456you had a ' that is why it wouldnt execute03:00
Mestapheleshylafax easy to set up?03:00
nickrudno, did not work, but that was also in debian03:00
penguinpartyI got no /dev/dsp . . . in dmesg shows that the module snd_au8820 craps out03:00
Monkeylikesbananoops03:00
nickrudnot simple, but not hard, either03:00
penguinpartyI tried intsalling the new alsa drivers 1.0.9rc4a03:01
penguinpartybut I dont know if they are the ones that are working cause /proc/asound/version shows 1.0.803:01
nickrudi used some old x wysiwyg to get my ps template for the coverpage03:01
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danko123456penguinparty: I know, I was reading some of the stuff you did with crimsun, he couldnt get it working???03:01
Mestaphelesso what did work? Just kdeprintfax?  I'll know on monday if efaxgtk worked.  efax thinks it did work and it did dial03:01
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danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: works?03:02
Monkeylikesbananhttp://pastebin.com/29106903:02
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penguinpartydanko: we got so far as to install the new rc4a stuff from alsa but /proc/asound/version shows 1.0.8 I donno what is loading the old modules03:02
nickrudMestapheles, yeah, point openoffice's fax printer at kprinter, or kdeprintfax, I'm vague on the exact name, I don't have it set up03:02
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danko123456ok, so you didnt get to finish everything with crimsun?03:02
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: thanks, sec.03:02
Mestaphelesobviously I need kde though03:03
CrustyPunkQuestion, and don't worry! I didn't fuck something up this time! (I hope.)03:03
penguinpartyI deleted all of the old modules from what I can tell out of /lib/modules . . ./kernel/ and copied in all the stuff from /lib/modules/.../update/...03:03
danko123456ok, sudo chown root g in a temrminal, Monkeylikesbanan.03:03
nickrudMestapheles, just get the fax printer, I think. you don't need all of kde03:03
penguinpartyjust to be sure that I got rid of the old modules03:03
danko123456penguinparty: not finished, one of you ahd to go?03:03
CrustyPunkIs it utterly impossible to set up a dual boot if you install Windows after you install Linux?03:03
Monkeylikesbananthen that command after?03:03
danko123456then mv again, yes.03:04
penguinpartyI cant rmmod snd_au8820 . . . Ya I had to go03:04
danko123456just to see.03:04
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Mestapheleskool.  So I take it there weren't any of the problems I described with efax-gtk.  kool03:04
danko123456it is not the fix yet, just to see if anything works.03:04
danko123456penguinparty: best bet to wait for him, I would definitely think...since he is the alsa specialist, and he did part of the work...03:04
dcravenCrustyPunk: You can fix grub from a livecd.03:04
penguinpartydanko: do you know when he usually is around?03:05
danko123456CrustyPunk: have you tried that pastebin I gave you?03:05
nickrudMestapheles, worked really well, and faxes can be emailed to you as ps attachments, sent to a printer, etc03:05
danko123456a little later, in a few hours.03:05
danko123456I think.03:05
Mestaphelesthanks nickrud03:05
penguinpartydanko: ok ill keep working with him03:05
CrustyPunkdanko123456, yeah. It didn't work. I gave up after trying more stuff and reinstalled Winblows, which is where I am now.03:05
nickrudnp, it's worth having03:05
danko123456man, bad idea, if you ask me...03:05
danko123456weird that didnt work..03:05
CrustyPunkCan you fix Grub with the non-live cd?03:05
danko123456yeah, you should bne able to...jsut do that, an expert install and just install grub...03:06
danko123456or even, cancel out of the normal process, and choose just to iunstall grub.03:06
danko123456but nothing I have already tried,03:07
nickrudMestapheles, check that, they were tiff images that were mailed.03:07
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CrustyPunkI don't recall ever seeing an "expert" install, just the option to install a server or regular03:07
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: pastebin again???03:07
danko123456or works?03:07
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456, is that sudo chown /root/g03:07
Monkeylikesbananor is that wrong03:07
danko123456sudo chown root g03:07
Monkeylikesbananok03:07
danko123456in yuor home folder...03:07
Monkeylikesbananok03:08
Monkeylikesbananso cd to home03:08
Monkeylikesbananthen sudo chown root g03:08
danko123456yeah, cd with no params03:08
danko123456yup03:08
Monkeylikesbananok03:08
glickthis blows03:08
danko123456I agree03:08
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danko123456ercompile, add lo support03:08
glickim prolly gonna go back to debian, the software was a little older, but at least it worked03:08
danko123456glick: Im sory ubuntu is giving you headaches:(03:09
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jrochetpardon me if I'm interrupting, would anybody here recommed ubuntu for a simple firewall/nat box03:10
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boownope because it installs a gui03:10
Monkeylikesbanandanko123456,, ermmmm cant get access to "g" because its on the floppy03:10
danko123456you can server install03:10
Monkeylikesbanan!03:10
danko123456?:)03:11
jrocheti pretty much need gui03:11
danko123456ls /media/floppy03:11
boowok03:11
danko123456jrochet: I would answer, but what with the rude interruption;)03:11
jfclavetteHah, found it03:11
jrocheti've been using fedora 3 with firestarter 1.0.303:11
boowso i guess its not a headless server that youll be sshing into03:12
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jrochetwell, once it's configured, i remove keyboard, mouse, monitor etc03:12
jrochetbut im too useless with linux commands and ssh-ing03:12
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: file there?03:13
Monkeylikesbananhttp://pastebin.com/29107103:13
Monkeylikesbananyes03:13
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razAnyone ever get, while using Mplayer: "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound." ?03:14
danko123456k, good, move them with sudo I guess...? does that work for you?03:14
boowdo you have sound in other apps03:14
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ricardoHello03:14
danko123456Raz: change teh output plugin to esd.03:14
danko123456hey,03:14
danko123456sweet, the file is there.03:15
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: move the files with sudo, through a terminal, is that hard for you??03:15
ricardoCan anyone give me a tip on ATI drivers?03:15
ricardoplease?03:15
danko123456I can tell you how to make a 1-letter alias for sudo mv03:15
Monkeylikesbananok03:15
danko123456just g filename, password, and it is there...03:15
danko123456ok, sudo gedit /etc/bash.bashrc03:16
ricardoPerformance is ridiculous03:16
danko123456ricardo, ubuntu forums, and ubuntulinux.org/wiki is my tip...03:16
razdanko123456, where do I change the 'output plugin' to 'esd' ?03:16
Monkeylikesbananok03:16
danko123456properties, preferences, otions.03:16
danko123456then, at teh end of the file, append alias g='sudo mv'03:17
danko123456and then save, and close teh file,.03:17
danko123456clsoe the terminal, open a new one.03:17
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EpixHello03:17
danko123456then, create a file again, and test it out... g filename03:17
danko123456oops.03:17
ricardothanks03:17
danko123456umm...03:17
danko123456just a sec03:17
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razdanko123456, can i PM you?03:18
danko123456yup03:18
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EpixI bet this is asked a lot but, im wondering wehat kind of MP3 player to get that is win/linux compatable. Im looking for around 1-5 gigs and internal memory (no cards, no disks...). I dont care about video. Any suggestions?03:18
danko123456better to keep it in the channel, tho, cause more ppl, more knowledge.03:18
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danko123456mp3 player device?03:19
danko123456use google:)03:19
danko123456Monkeylikesbanan: give me a few, oplease.03:19
Epixdanko123456: yes. a device03:19
Epixsomething like an iPod. I know iPod and iPod mini will work03:20
Epixbut what are my other options03:20
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jeff25ubuntu is asking for apt mirror locations... where can I find these?03:21
danko123456epix, I dunno, google must know.03:21
imaekDoes anybody know if A) Music Player/Rythem Box's iPod support works, and if so B) If I were to hook my iPod up to it would it delete all the music that I have off of it?03:21
danko123456jeff25: ubuntu came to you and asked you?03:21
danko123456gtkpod03:21
jeff25danko123456: well my country isn't listed03:21
danko123456what is it?03:22
jeff25danko123456: the list doesn't have USA03:22
danko123456us......03:22
danko123456us.archives.ubuntulinux.org I thiunk.03:22
Epixdanko123456: you are not the only one in the channel. anyone else have a suggestion03:22
danko123456yes, off coursE:) no offence, epix:)03:22
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danko123456just giving you a valid option...03:22
razdanko123456, you suggested to go to Preferences->Options to change mplayer's output plugin to 'esd'. Can't find 'Options' in the 'preferences' window.. hmm?03:22
Epixhmm, im gonna ask gentoo03:23
jeff25wow the install went great03:23
jeff25better then gentoo03:23
jeff25gentoo's install takes years03:24
`psychoNO SHIT03:24
jeff25the install even found my other OS (win2000) and put it in grub.conf03:24
danko123456wel, yeah:)03:24
EpixHow 'good' is wine? what vcan it do for me03:24
xiaogilHow to change the command "seq 001 003" so that it gives me 001, 002, 003, instead of 1,2,3 ?03:25
jeff25I'm 110% impressed so far03:25
jeff25I've been using gentoo for years03:25
JanCjeff25 : if you really want, you can also recompile everything in Debian or Ubuntu  :)03:25
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jasmuzhello all03:25
jeff25JanC: really? cool! can individual package be compiled? I don't have a desire to compile "everything03:25
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JanCof course then the "fast install advantage" will go away    ;)03:25
shanonjeff25: I just moved from gentoo as well and am also very impressed. Check out the http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ if you haven't already03:26
hardcampa-can you say what stuff should be included in what compiles then? As in Gentoo03:26
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danko123456Epix: please dont get mad:) it is funny how you asked that...:) just cause you seem to think you came to a store, like what can this do for me:) pelase dont take this wrong, it was just funny to me, sorry:(03:26
danko123456wine is a windows emulator, even though its name states otherwise.03:27
jeff25shanon: thanks!03:28
Epixdanko123456: ;) ok. i knew that much... Wine Is Not an Emulator. Pine Is Not Elm... But what can it run? Can i get winamp for example running on it?03:28
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jeff25I just booted for the first time and now it's downloading a bunch of stuff (I did pxeboot install to my laptop)03:28
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danko123456why, epix:(03:29
danko123456why would you run that?03:29
imaekI know that there is a command to re-read your fstab and then mount all of the new devices listed in there. Does anybody know what I'm talking about?03:29
danko123456I dont think it can, no, I never used that.03:29
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danko123456tho,s o again, not tthe right person for the job...03:29
danko123456mount -a03:29
danko123456sudop03:29
imaekThanks.03:29
danko123456welcome03:29
danko123456Im on a roll...03:30
JanChardcampa- : only if you change build options in the package itself03:30
Yoshimitsuanyone got any ideas for Divx 503:30
hybrid_gothmplayer03:30
Yoshimitsui can seem to get it work03:30
Epixdanko123456: it was an example. name me some programs it can run? could i run starcraft? :P03:30
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Yoshimitsumplayer doesnt work for me at all03:30
hybrid_gothYoshimitsu: pornviewer03:30
Yoshimitsuim running Ubuntu PPC03:30
jasmuzYoshimitsu, what does it fail at?03:30
hybrid_gothYoshimitsu: me too03:30
Yoshimitsuwell it starts03:31
JanCjeff25 & hardcampa- : http://julien.danjou.info/article-apt-build.html might be a start03:31
hybrid_gothYoshimitsu: pornview is awesome03:31
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Yoshimitsubut the picture is all scrambled only the sound comes through03:31
jasmuzYoshimitsu,  if you cant run Mplayer i recommend Xine03:31
Yoshimitsuand thats using Gxine03:31
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Yoshimitsutotem xine doesnt do it either03:31
Yoshimitsuand niether does VLC03:31
jasmuzYoshimitsu, did you download the library's?03:31
cccEpix: check for instance http://appdb.winehq.org/03:31
Yoshimitsuyes i did03:32
danko123456epix, google for a list of programs that run in cedega, someone once showed nme it.03:32
Yoshimitsubut incase i didnt03:32
Yoshimitsuwhat package is needed03:32
cccEpix: i guess you can run just about anything, but linux already has the best musicplayer (amarok) so i wouldn't use winamp via wine :)03:32
jasmuzThe codecs03:33
Epixso nobody here uses their MP3 player with linux?03:33
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Epixccc: total example... Plus muine kicks le ass03:33
danko123456I dont have one:(03:33
imaekI am trying to get my iPod working and /dev/sdc2 isn't avaliable for me.  A tutorial on the ubuntu forums told me to check /etc/mtab to see which device it was on.  How can I tell through /etc/mtab?03:33
jeff25if you want winamp style player just use xmms03:33
danko123456I think most of them work, if my opinion counts.03:33
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jeff25JanC: cool article.  Doesn't look too hard03:33
JanCif you read the warnings  :)03:33
jeff25jasmuz: what codecs?03:33
danko123456imaek: how about sdc1, sda1, sda2 sdb2 and so on any numbers...03:33
imaekBy the way, the tutorial is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3663203:33
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haydeni tried to mount hda2 as ntfs but it said wrong file system, is there a way to see the fs for each partition on a machine (not only linux or mounted partitions)?03:34
danko123456fdisk -l03:34
danko123456sudo03:34
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imaekdanko123456; ls: sd*: No such file or directory03:34
danko123456ls /dev/sd*03:34
danko123456:)03:34
imaekls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory03:35
imaek(I was in /dev/ before.)03:35
Epiximaek: ill get you a link03:35
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cccEpix: never tried muine... looks like rhythmbox from the screenshots03:35
imaekO..kay.03:35
justinmuine is nothing like rhythmbox03:35
StalagnaI want to get a file from ftp and it has spaces in it, how do you treat spaces in linux03:35
justinStalagna: clicking on the file doesn't work?03:36
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imaekStalagna: with \s.03:36
imaekSo for example File name.ext = File\ name.ext03:36
IIIEars__danko123456 - How do you add Terminal for the "Open With." dialog box?03:36
jasmuzStalagna, are you getting the file with wget?03:36
cccjustin ok03:36
Stalagnajust get03:36
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Stalagnawhats the difference?03:36
haydeni tried to mount hda2 as ntfs but it said wrong file system, is there a way to see the fs for each partition on a machine (not only linux or mounted partitions)?03:36
Epiximaek: try this http://www.blinkenlights.ch/cgi-bin/fm.pl?get=ipod03:36
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jeff25hayden: does your kernel have ntfs support?03:36
Stalagnaonly been on linux 10 hours03:36
IIIEars__Is the terminal "xterm"???03:37
jasmuzwget: web get03:37
danko123456IIIEars: like, in a context menu, or in what?03:37
IIIEars__Welcome Stalagna! :)03:37
haydenjeff25: yea, i have mounted hda1 as ntfs03:37
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jeff25hayden: hrm03:37
xiaogilThe command "seq -f %03g 1 5" doesn't work on ubuntu hoary, why ?03:37
danko123456Stalagna: it was "\ "03:37
Epiximaek: or maybe this: http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html03:37
IIIEars__yes in the contex menu for "Open With"03:37
jeff25hayden: did you check fdisk to make sure it's ntfs?03:37
Stalagnayeah that worked03:37
Stalagnaforgot03:37
danko123456a backslash plus a space03:37
haydenjeff25: how03:37
jasmuzbe back later ...03:37
danko123456IIIEars: I have to try,.03:38
haydenfdisk -> p?03:38
justinStalagna: is there any particular reason you are using the crappy ftp program and not just using the integrated ftp client in nautilus, or at least lftp?03:38
jeff25hayden: yeah03:38
danko123456justin:)03:38
haydenok thanks,03:38
jeff25Stalagna: install gftp03:38
Stalagnayou have to give me instructions if you give me advice, first time user03:39
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danko123456IIIEars: ok, you first open with... and then select gnome terminal, and after that, for that file type it has that as an option.03:39
justinStalagna: how did you come to be using the ftp command then?03:39
Stalagnasudo apt-get install gtfp?03:39
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IIIEars__Many Thanks Danko123456 :)03:40
Stalagnaadvice from another user on this chat03:40
JanCStalagna : for installing software you can also use Synaptic03:40
danko123456it is there, Stalagna, in your apps>internet.03:40
danko123456welcome:)03:40
haydendo i need to install tools other than w32codecs to play DivX files in totem player?03:40
JanCdanko123456 : gftp isn't installed by default03:40
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shadeofgreyhey guys03:41
danko123456http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats hayden03:41
justinhayden: you don't need to install w32codecs to play divx files in the first place03:41
JanChayden : you don't need w32codecs to play divx files03:41
danko123456hey, shade.03:41
shadeofgreyhow do i set gedit as my default program for editing txt php and html files?03:41
danko123456JanC: you sure of that?03:41
JanChayden : ffmpeg plays divx03:41
Stalagnaok, so for file transfers, what do you suggest?03:41
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danko123456then, hayden, you need a sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*03:41
shadeofgreyi previously set it to use editpad, which is my favorite text editor but for some reason ubuntu wont copy anything from editpad into the system clipboard forsome reason03:42
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Flaischlegohi03:42
shadeofgreygftp is the best03:42
nickrudStalagna, gftp is good, you can also do places->connect to server, and get a filemanager window03:42
Epixok, so no MP3 player recomendations at all?03:42
jeff25network install is amzazing03:42
JanCdanko123456 : ffmpeg is also used in ffdshow / MediaPlayerClassic on Windows...03:42
FlaischlegoDoes anyone know if "pppoeconf" should write a line into /etc/network/interfaces?03:42
shadeofgreybeep media player03:43
danko123456JanC: refering to gftp not being installed:)03:43
shadeofgreyguys i really need to know how to set default applications based on file extension03:43
danko123456Flaischlego: no, it should not.03:43
Flaischlegommmh...03:43
JanCdanko123456 : almost sure  :)03:43
Yoshimitsuanyone here running on PPC03:43
danko123456JanC: I am almost sure the other way:)03:43
danko123456Yoshimitsu: nalioth, xappe, others, me...03:44
Flaischlegostrange... pppoeconf is just not working, dont know why03:44
danko123456Flaischlego: one NIC? if so, just sudo pppoeconf03:44
danko123456then, follow the prompts.03:44
Yoshimitsudanko123456 have you managed to get Mplayer running03:44
danko123456all are enter, really,.03:44
danko123456Yoshimitsu: nalioth has.03:44
IIIEars__lol - Ubuntu is amazing. IRC #ubuntu, Streamtuner '80s channel +XMMS,  Mel Gibson "The Year of  Living Dangerously" and just for the heck of it Quake2 started in a window. - 1.5g machine 360megs ram.03:44
danko123456ask him when he is here.03:44
Flaischlegodanko123456: not working, tried ... some times now ;)03:44
danko123456Flaischlego: except for the one with the user names.03:45
jeff25what is a backport?03:45
danko123456Flaischlego: Id help you have a girl coming over.03:45
danko123456do you havfe 1 NIC?03:45
justinIIIEars__: you have low expections from computers eh? :-)03:45
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danko123456eh, justin?03:45
Yoshimitsudanko123456 i managed a while back when i went to haory unstable from warty but it now it doesnt seem to want to work no matter what i do ive tried Mplayer-powerpc and Mplayer-g403:45
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JanCdanko123456 : ubuntu-desktop has no dependency on gftp...  :)03:45
danko123456well see.03:45
IIIEars__Used to having a dozen "life support" apps for M$ windows hogging resources03:45
danko123456at some point03:46
Yoshimitsui cant think of any other way to get Divx 5 to play03:46
danko123456k, Im out. I know you are all happy.03:46
danko123456:)03:46
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ckjeff25, which net install?03:47
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cccmuine (just tried it now) didn't have much to offer compared to amarok03:48
Flaischlegodanko123456: i just have one user ;)03:48
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Epixcrap!03:48
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Epixrunning iPod on linux needs firewire!!!?03:49
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glickwell i got the gnome problem solved03:50
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imaekHow can I tell if my kernel supports FireWire?03:51
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cwilluHelp :(03:52
danko123456epix, I would not imagine so...03:53
danko123456glick, YAY.03:53
novaflarewhat are some decent irc clients for linux?03:53
cwilluI ran an update, and now my screens all screwy, size-wise03:53
novaflaregui with multi server support03:53
xiaogilHow to use a command line like sed or tr to make a simple replacement in a file like : "sed myfile.txt s/'abc'/'def'", i can't find the exact syntax...03:53
LinuxJonesimaek, are you running the stock Ubuntu kernel ?03:53
BoD_SWATCan someone tell me how to uninstall a self-build vsftpd? (I get "make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop." )03:53
danko123456Fleischlego: well, how about the NIC...one network card?03:53
imaekYes LinuxJones03:53
novaflarexchat is pissing me off crashes if i breath wrong03:53
naliothnovaflare: xchat03:53
Fleischlegotwo danko12345603:53
LinuxJonesimaek, support is build in for forewire03:53
danko123456ok, that may be why, which ones?03:53
LinuxJoneserr firewire03:54
danko123456like, both wired?03:54
Fleischlegoyes03:54
glickhehe now i have to figure out 1.) why it stopped working to begin with and secondly, why i have to start my network manually instead of it doing automaticaly during the boot sequence03:54
danko123456ok, other interfaces your network?03:54
Fleischlegodsl-modem on eth0, eth1 just for local network03:54
cwilluCan somebody help me get my screen back to something more usable?03:54
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danko123456yes, you may find out how to start it auto...03:54
_paxmasterhello i allready made a partition for window but i didn't install it03:54
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danko123456ok, about eth1...:) did yuo put in a gateway entry:)03:54
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danko123456comment that out, and it will work:)03:55
Fleischlegodidnt.... ;)03:55
_paxmasterand right now i am going to install it03:55
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bigfootShuddertrix, Hi03:55
BoD_SWATcwillu, can you give a more precise problem description?03:55
IIIEars__cwillu - Did you CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE >> login >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    ?03:55
cwilluNot really03:55
jeff25danko123456: how do you go about adding another WM?03:55
cwilluI ran an update a couple days ago03:55
cwillulooks like I'm stuck on 640x48003:56
danko123456through apt-get/aptitude/synaptic.03:56
cwilluI was running at 1024x768 before03:56
jeff25okay03:56
danko123456cwillu: then you are in luck, they know how to fix it.03:56
naliothjeff25: you use apt-get to install all the parts of it you like03:56
cwilluguess I could give a better description :p03:56
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cwillunever knew of such a command... one sec03:56
IIIEars__cwillu - nah - even the wimpiest cards do 1024x76803:56
jeff25nalioth: how do you know what is available in apt-get?03:56
BoD_SWATcwillu, sounds like a xserver config problem. Use the tip from IIIEars03:56
cwilluokay03:56
danko123456nalioth: Yoshimitsu was wondering on getting mplayer to work on a ppc...are you here Yoshimitsu?03:56
imaekLinuxJones: can you help me get my iPod set up? I'm using a tutorial that is telling me to use /dev/sdc2, but that doesn't exist.03:57
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jeff25nalioth: is there a list of packages from apt-get somewhere?03:57
IIIEars__cwillu - likely culprit is the framebuffer option try that first03:57
ckjeff25, which net install?03:57
cwilluwhat do you think could have caused it?   Notably, I'ev just been installing the updates as they show up, haven't been using anything other than web browsing03:57
danko123456imaek, seriously nothing exists in /dev/sd*?03:57
ckjeff25, packages.ubuntu.com03:57
imaekYes danko123456.03:57
jeff25ck: ubuntu03:57
Fleischlegodanko123456: so, i got now the following on my /etc/network/interfaces: auto lo    iface lo inet loopback,  ifaceeth1 inet static: network 192.168.1.0 adress 1.1 broadcast 1.255 netmask 255.255.255.003:57
danko123456hm mine comes back with the right thing...03:57
LinuxJonescwillu, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto/03:58
IIIEars__cwillu - you might try this CTRL+ALT+NUMPAD_+ (sign)03:58
danko123456Fleischlego: use pastebin.com I cant read that ehere:)03:58
Fleischlegodanko123456: ah, good idead *G*03:58
danko123456you sure you did ls /dev/sd*03:58
jeff25ck got collided heh03:59
imaekYes, danko123456.03:59
IIIEars__num pad plus sign will let you cycle resolutions03:59
danko123456imaek: hm...connected?03:59
imaekAnd I've done cd /dev | ls sd*03:59
imaekYes danko123456.03:59
bigfoothello everyone. i'm new to the linux/ubuntu world. May i ask a question regarding a specific program?03:59
danko123456no.03:59
danko123456:-p03:59
danko123456DENIED!!!...03:59
LinuxJonesimaek, I don't have an ipod but >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IPodHowto ... read the part about running dmesg03:59
imaekYes, bigfoot.03:59
IIIEars__No need to ask to ask, Jump right in we don't bite.03:59
danko123456well, I wont answer it...04:00
bigfootit's about a linux program called gmailfs, to use my gmail account as a file storage.04:00
danko123456lol04:00
danko123456ooh..sweet program...04:00
bigfootbut i don't know what to do.04:00
Fleischlegodanko123456: pasted04:00
Fleischlegohttp://pastebin.com/29108304:01
IIIEars__<perk> gmailfs - sounds interesting. 2gigs of online storage would be cool.04:01
bigfoot... coming from the Windows double click to install world, i request your expertise.04:01
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danko123456we are here to assist you, bigfoot.04:01
cwilluWonderful!  I can see the bottom of the X-Chat server list (including Connect buttoN) again!04:01
Epixnobody new here to recomend an mp3 player (the handheld kind :P)04:01
danko123456cwillu: excellent, to borrow words from my good friend;)04:02
bigfooti'd be willing to give a gmail invite as the very least of my thanks to those who can help me with gmailfs.04:02
IIIEars__cwillu - we'll get you out of this mess.04:02
Fleischlegocwillu: huh? there's a connect button?04:02
cwillu:p04:02
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cwilluX-Chat... only way I could even get here was to edit the ubuntu servers, set it to autoconnect, then restart x-chat :)04:02
danko123456so, whats your question, then, bigfoot?04:02
IIIEars__check out the quick resolution change - ctrl+alt+numpadplussign04:03
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cwilluI could get into the Screen Resolution thingy in system, there was only one option: 640x48004:03
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Fleischlegodanko123456: is the file ok?04:03
cwilluthe reconfigure thingy seems to have fixed it (albeit requiring the use of the enter key many many times)04:03
IIIEars__That is really annoying.04:04
danko123456sorry, Fleischlego got distracted04:04
naliothIIIEars__: yes, gmail as online storage is quite the thing among 733t h@x0rz04:04
imaekI don't have the 'dmesg' command.04:04
imaek:\04:04
IIIEars__still better a safe mode than a dark screen04:04
danko123456why even teh broadcast and other parts, is there a reason, Fleischlego?04:04
cwilluits a file isn't it?04:04
Fleischlegodanko123456: nevermind - just tell me if you got time04:04
cwillucat dmesg?04:04
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Fleischlegodanko123456: mmmh, maybe desperation... or something like that...04:05
imaekOh, now I do.04:05
imaek:p04:05
IIIEars__nalioth - my name annd 7337 h@xors ALWAYS amkes me laugh out loud.04:05
savananyone know why my dvd drive is not seen at install time?04:05
cwillucat /var/log/dmesg04:05
danko123456ok, so, Fleischlegowould you like just a working internal network, and a internet interface?04:05
cwilluI think04:05
danko123456ooh, remove one of those, the eth0 first of all.04:06
Fleischlegoright04:06
IIIEars__i can hardly type in an order on amazon.com04:06
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danko123456the whole thing.04:06
imaek:(04:06
imaekErm04:06
LinuxJonessavan, put a dvd/cdrom in your drive it should auto-mount04:06
danko123456remove the eth0 completely.04:06
imaekWhen I dmesg I get like 8,000 lines.  How do I know what I'm looking for?04:06
danko123456in the eth0 leave only the address, and the mask/04:06
bigfootwhat folder are xchat chat logs defaultly stored at?04:06
danko123456Ill give you mine,.04:06
cwilludmesg|grep "something"?04:06
LinuxJonesbigfoot, in your .xchat dire in your home dir04:07
danko123456http://pastebin.com/29108704:07
savanhmm, during an attempted install it boots off of it, then when it goes to check the install media it complains of not fiding a cd04:07
IIIEars__My neigbhor has recieved two books from amazon and doesn't have a computer. - lol04:07
danko123456bigfoot: what was the question about the gmailfs program, how to install?04:07
Fleischlegodanko123456: this is for local network right?04:07
LinuxJonessavan, you have a sata hard drive and an ide dvd ?04:07
imaekerm danko123456, that's your dmesg?04:07
savanyes04:07
imaekShould I paste mine?04:08
bigfooti'm just going to review what i've already done (the commands i've entered into terminal) and i'll report back immediately.04:08
danko123456imaek: that is somehtnig else.04:08
imaekOh04:08
imaekSorry. :P04:08
LinuxJonessavan, search google there is an easy fix for that although it should be included in the default install routine04:08
danko123456imaek: dmesg|grep (string you are looking for)04:08
danko123456I think04:08
Fleischlegodanko123456: ok, thank you, ill try this, brb in a minute04:08
imaekThe thing is04:08
imaekI don't know what I'm looking for04:09
danko123456k, dont reboot, please.04:09
danko123456Fleischlego: please dont reboot.04:09
imaekIt says to look for my iPod/Firewire in there.04:09
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Fleischlegodanko123456: lol no04:09
savanok, I did try playing with the sata settings in the BIOS as well as re-arranging the SATA drive order but to no avail04:09
Fleischlegodanko123456: this is just a different pc - have to do some plugging stuff04:09
Fleischlegoand it will kill this i-net connection04:09
danko123456imaek: well, anything saying ipod is a good start,...paste it into gedit, and use find.04:10
imaekI did04:10
danko123456ah...good idea:)04:10
imaek:)04:11
imaekThe closest thing I got04:11
imaekwas apparently there's something named FIREBALL04:11
imaek(Something having to do with my hda)04:11
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Yoshimitsusigh04:12
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justinimaek: it would be called ieee1394 if anything, not firewire04:12
dabaSlon_mhmYoshimitsu: did you ask nalioth about mplayer, he was here...04:12
Cranehello04:12
dabaSlon_mhmhey, crane04:12
imaekI have that04:12
justinfirewire is the trademark from apple04:12
dabaSlon_mhmjustin, good call.04:12
Yoshimitsuno dabaSlon_mhm  i didnt04:12
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dabaSlon_mhmYoshimitsu: ask.04:12
imaekjustin - I got like 15 lines.04:12
YoshimitsudabaSlon_mhm i just tried this and it didnt work http://powerpc.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer04:13
imaekieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394'04:13
justinimaek: run dmesg | less and read the whole thing, especially the parts around those lines04:13
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dabaSlon_mhmwhat was the errors you got, Yoshimitsu, paste it to pastebin.com, please.04:13
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greencan someone help me install video drivers04:14
dabaSlon_mhmjustin, he can |grep '1394'04:14
jeff25how do I install dri for xorg04:14
dabaSlon_mhmgreen: did you read the wiki on that topic?04:14
greenno04:14
greenlink pls04:14
dabaSlon_mhmok, well Ill give you a link for a start.04:14
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dabaSlon_mhmhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto04:15
greenthanks04:15
Yoshimitsuok dabaSlon_mhm its there04:15
dabaSlon_mhmk, welcome, b nice to tech support, for me:)04:15
dabaSlon_mhmhaha, I suck...04:15
YoshimitsudabaSlon_mhm here is another one04:15
dabaSlon_mhmanyhow...yoshimitsu, pleas give me the urkl...04:15
imaekdabaSlon_mhm / justin : I got http://pastebin.com/29109004:15
imaekthat is from dmesg | grep 139404:16
dabaSlon_mhmnice, that worked!04:16
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dabaSlon_mhmI never used grep:)04:16
hitchhiker|fakeHi all, I am back again.04:16
imaekand there is a /dev/raw139404:16
Fleischlegodanko left? ;)04:16
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Deterministnight guys , enjoy your weekends.04:16
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hitchhiker|fakeWhat 1394?04:17
YoshimitsudabaSlon_mhm heres the URL http://pastebin.com/29109104:17
YoshimitsudabaSlon_mhm heres the second http://pastebin.com/29108904:17
bigfootSo here's the list of steps i've done in my attempt to get gmailfs up and running: 1. got gmailfs from synaptic (synaptic also included gmailfs's depencies). 2. 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab' 3. at the bottom of that file, i added "/usr/share/gmailfs/gmailfs.py /mnt/gmailfs gmailfs noauto,username=whatever,password=whatever,fsname=whatever" 3. "sudo mkdir /mnt/gmailfs && sudo mount /mnt/gmailfs'. The response i got back from terminal was " old style moun04:17
bigfootting not supported".   Some things to note: In my computer:/// directory, i now see "gmailfs" but when i doubleclick it, i get a "Mount Error" window that says, "Unable to mount the selected volume.  mount: only root can mount /usr/share/gmailfs/gmailfs.py on /mnt/gmailfs"04:17
dabaSlon_mhmimaek: is your ipod connected thorugh firewire? I mean, did you install gtkpod yet, btw?04:17
imaekYes, I did.04:18
imaekAnd yes, it is.04:18
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imaek6.04:19
dabaSlon_mhmhaha, he was asking for me:)04:19
stuNNedcrimsun: ping04:20
hitchhiker|fakepong?04:21
dabaSlon_mhmbigfoot: working on it.04:21
greentable tennis04:21
IIIEARS-gglbigfoot - the maintainers site says there was an update is the file in synaptic the latest update?04:21
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dabaSlon_mhmbigfoot: what do I replace the fsname=whatever with??04:22
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cccbigfoot: hmm, do a "sudo mount -a" to remount from fstab, if you didn't already...?04:22
bigfootIIIEARS-ggl, what do you mean? I'm not sure whether you are asking me a question or telling me information.04:22
hitchhiker|fakeping/pong/pung04:22
dabaSlon_mhmsudo update-grub, to04:22
dabaSlon_mhmtoo04:22
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dabaSlon_mhmso, what do I put as fsname?04:23
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dabaSlon_mhmwhats an fsname?04:23
IIIEARS-gglHonestly i don't know. - has the gmail interface changed again since updated gmail lib.04:23
prediusGuys, which precompiled kernel is compiled with e2compr?04:23
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novaflarei sware im seeing less and less reason to keep my windows boot around heh04:24
bigfootdabaSlon_mhm, "fsname=whatever" : the files get emailed in your gmail, you can set up a gmail filter to filter that fsname to a different gmail folder.04:24
novaflarei just installed mirc04:24
novaflareand it runs perfectly04:24
Amarantho_O04:24
Amaranthand it's ugly as sin04:24
dabaSlon_mhmwhat can I put in, just as a not to use that?04:24
Amaranthoh, and insecure04:24
Shuddertrixbigfoot: you must have copied word for word what I typed into a file. bravo.04:24
prediusYou can get a GTK Theme.04:25
novaflaretrue04:25
novaflarei did it just to see how it would do04:25
prediusIt has transparency, too.04:25
novaflarehell i got rubies of eventide running a full screen 3d mmorpg that uses a ton of dx heh04:25
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dabaSlon_mhmShuddertrix: what can I put as fsname?04:25
bigfootShuddertrix, I'm afraid you are mistaken. I made that mistake on a previous time, but not now. 8-)      I put in my own gmail username and gmail password.04:26
IIIEars__Amaranth - how secure is gmail fs?04:26
novaflarenow im just trying to de glitch it once thats done and i get ryzom to install and run wont be any rason for windows to remain heh04:26
AmaranthIIIEars:  I don't know what you mean04:26
dabaSlon_mhmthere is no erason for windows to remain now...except widespread use of computers:-p04:26
novaflaredont use gmail for email that has to remain with out a doubt secure04:26
novaflaregmail is beta and it does have bugs and flaws04:27
AmaranthIIIEars: I'd suppose it's as secure as gmail until they delete your account for using it as a fs.04:27
Shuddertrixbigfoot: re-read what I typed. Infact, say it out loud, too..04:27
novaflaresome that are very bad ones04:27
IIIEars__okay - never mind - bigfoot is using gmail fs 2g of free storage sounds interesting. - just wondered04:27
dabaSlon_mhmok, can you guys give me an example of what to put into the fsname?04:27
prediusgmail should work on PGP signing and encryption04:27
dabaSlon_mhminstead of arguing:)04:27
novaflarefor general emails use it04:27
IIIEars__ouch - i would lose a year of mail04:27
justinpredius: that would be counter productive to their goals04:27
dabaSlon_mhmI hate when they have buggy periods, I always wait for 5 days for my email...04:27
ShuddertrixdabaSlon_mhm: GMAILFS, omgwtflol, itsafilesystem, omgwtf, cheese, placewordshere04:28
bigfootdabaSlon_mhm, for my fstab file, i put in "jeffgmail"04:28
dabaSlon_mhmanything?04:28
YoshimitsudabaSlon_mhm did you have a look at that post of mine04:28
novaflarei use gmail for all my email news letter user groups etc04:28
Shuddertrixanything your heart desires.04:28
dabaSlon_mhmYoshimitsu: yeah, kinda...04:28
Yoshimitsuok04:28
dabaSlon_mhmpaste your sources.list, please.04:28
novaflarebut i dont use it for account sign ups if i plan on keeping the pass word i signed up with04:28
AmaranthIIIEars: Uploads are just emails to the account (sent in 2.5MB chunk, iirc) and downloads are screenscapes for URLs to those chunks.04:28
Yoshimitsumine04:28
bigfootShuddertrix, I'd be happy to re-read, but which of your messages shall i re-read?04:28
dabaSlon_mhmthanks, guys...04:28
IIIEars__(sigh) it might be easier to buy a domain and storage.04:28
dabaSlon_mhmYoshimitsu: yes.04:28
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Shuddertrixbigfoot: < Shuddertrix> bigfoot: you must have copied word for word of what I typed into a file. bravo.04:29
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dabaSlon_mhmit works, bigfoot, exactly as you said:)04:29
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TechOzonehello04:30
hitchhiker|fakehello04:30
TechOzonehi is anyone here an admin?04:30
Yoshimitsuhere ya go dabaSlon_mhm http://pastebin.com/29109404:30
TechOzonei need help with shipit04:30
bigfootdabaSlon_mhm, it works for you? No "mount error" or "mounting problem"?04:30
dabaSlon_mhmlol, Shuddertrix, you are not friendly:)04:30
dabaSlon_mhmnope.04:30
TechOzoneany admins here?04:30
dabaSlon_mhmdo you mount -a before the mount?04:30
TechOzoneor managers?04:30
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dabaSlon_mhmI am a manager, wat can I assist you with?04:30
TechOzonehi04:30
dabaSlon_mhmbahaha.04:30
dabaSlon_mhmsorry, dude:)04:31
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TechOzonei sent u an email at info@shipit04:31
TechOzoneregarding my ubuntu cd's were stolen in the mail04:31
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bigfootdabaSlon_mhm, actually i'm very grateful for the help that Shuddertrix gave me 12 hours ago. It was he, who assisted me in the first 3 steps i wrote of above. 8-)04:31
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dabaSlon_mhmwhat, shippit takes like 4-6 weeks, that is what I know about it.04:31
Rev_FryHave they even started showing up yet?04:31
Rev_FryI haven't gotten any04:31
dabaSlon_mhmdid I really send that message:) sorry, Shuddertrix:)04:31
TechOzoneyes, i got the package04:31
TechOzonebuy no cd's04:31
naliothYoshimitsu: please ask in here, i don't care for PMs04:31
TechOzone*but no cd's04:31
nuopusDoes anyone know how to remove kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop recursively?04:32
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dabaSlon_mhmTechOzone: how many were there supposed to be?04:32
naliothnuopus: industrial strength magnet?04:32
Yoshimitsunalioth hence the apology04:32
TechOzoneum, there were supposed to be 3004:32
dabaSlon_mhm800, y chance>?04:32
dabaSlon_mhmah, then that is not it..04:32
nuopusMy wife liked kubuntu on her computer and I want to get rid of all gnome stuff04:32
TechOzone30 cd's04:32
dabaSlon_mhmone guy got 800 instead of 15...04:32
naliothYoshimitsu: i had to build my mplayer (and some of its codecs) from source04:32
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Yoshimitsui have a problem setting up Mplayer even though i have rtfm04:32
TechOzonei really need the cd's immediately!04:32
Shuddertrixwhoa, that guy probably got my cd's then?04:33
naliothYoshimitsu: try apt-get source -b <whatever mplayer pkg you desire>04:33
dabaSlon_mhmTechOzone: I was jj I was a manager, you know that, right?04:33
Yoshimitsuok i tried that aswell and still no luck i got a whole heap of errors04:33
razWould anyone know what this error means?:04:33
razLinux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied04:33
razTry adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts.04:33
razPlaying kitaro.mp3.04:33
bigfootwell, i'm not sure how to proceed now... with the "mounting error". i have followed ccc's advice to  "sudo mount -a" and it still doesn't work.04:33
nuopusTechOzone: I can overnight them to you if you ask me04:33
Yoshimitsuty nalioth ill try that04:33
Rev_FryThose that got the CDs... where are you at?.. regionally04:33
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IIIEars__dabaslon - 800? - he can make a lot of friends or coasters one of the two04:33
TechOzoneCanada04:33
bigfootRev_Fry, I got the Cds. and i'm in Japan04:33
naliothYoshimitsu: i am in and out of here, did you send your system specs?04:33
Yoshimitsuno i did not04:34
TechOzonewho is a REAL manager here?04:34
jubuntuI was wondering if it is possible to join my ubuntu to Windows AD04:34
CarlK_raz - you don;t need to worry about RTC unless the audio starts to get out of sync (i think)04:34
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Yoshimitsunalioth Apple G4 Powerbook 15 aluminium04:34
dabaSlon_mhmnoone really, ask daniels, crimsun, bob2, or just wait for teh reply to that email.04:34
naliothYoshimitsu: bingo!04:34
razCarlK_, no audio at all, heh, freaking gay mplayer.04:34
Yoshimitsu:)04:34
cccbigfoot: mustn't there be dump and pass entries in fstab too?04:34
Rev_FryHrmm In the states04:34
TechOzoneWHO IS A MANAGER OR ADMIN?04:34
Rev_FryOh well04:34
naliothYoshimitsu: yes, you will have to install using the method i sent above (did someone point me out to you?)04:34
nuopusTechOzone: I am an admin04:35
Rev_FryTech... you can just order more right?04:35
Yoshimitsuyes nalioth04:35
dabaSlon_mhmyes, I did, nalioth.04:35
CarlK_raz, well, that isnt a rtc prob04:35
YoshimitsudabaSlon_mhm suggested i ask you04:35
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razCarlK_, aighty.04:35
bob2TechOzone: stop it04:35
dabaSlon_mhmhaha, you got one:)04:35
bob2TechOzone: if you have a question, ask04:35
bigfoot i'm sorry but i don't know, ccc. should there be dump and pass entries in fstab?04:35
nuopusTechOzone: But not an Ubuntu admin04:35
dabaSlon_mhmhe did, about the cds shippit04:35
TechOzonei will talk in private chat04:35
TechOzonegrr, who is a ubuntu admin?04:35
bob2TechOzone: if you have questions about shipit, please read the FAQ04:36
nuopusLOL04:36
dabaSlon_mhmnot wit bob2, I think...04:36
naliothTechOzone: there are none here04:36
bob2TechOzone: if they don't answer it, email mako04:36
TechOzone@bob2, i did04:36
dabaSlon_mhmTechOzone: I would like to explain this channel...04:36
TechOzone@mako?04:36
ubotuI don't know, TechOzone04:36
nuopusTechOzone: I havent gotten mine either dude .... and I ordered before it was released04:36
IIIEars__still amazed by a free and complete operating system to download. having it sent to your door at no cost is astounding.04:36
TechOzoneyes, i GOT the package, but no CD'S were in it, it was ripped open like someone stole them04:36
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nuopusIIIEars___: What do you think of it though?04:36
naliothYoshimitsu: i like keeping chats in chan, cuz lurkers can learn, too04:36
dabaSlon_mhmTechOzone: this is a volunteer support/chat chat about ubuntu related topics, and ppl not ebing able to do something with their ubuntu...no managers...04:37
jubuntuis it possible to share ubuntu files with window?04:37
IIIEars__Bill Gates is going to work a bit harder to sell his OS.04:37
TechOzonewhats mako's email?04:37
Yoshimitsuindeed04:37
nuopusIIIEars___: So you like it?04:37
dabaSlon_mhmthere are ppl related to canonical, the ubuntu company...and bob2 is one.04:37
bob2TechOzone: then please email info@shipit.ubuntu.com04:37
jeff25god this is so nice.  Took 1 minute to install gcc where on gentoo it takes 4 hours04:37
naliothYoshimitsu: and running a PPC, you should become familiar with using apt to build from source04:37
TechOzonei did, i got no response04:37
IIIEars__Honestly? - I fear for canonical's survival.04:37
bob2TechOzone: when did you email?04:37
Yoshimitsuyeah so ive heard @ nalioth04:37
TechOzoneum, a week ago04:37
nuopusIIIEars___: So you dont like it?04:37
naliothYoshimitsu: cuz us and (a little less so) the AMD64 folks are red-headed-stepchildren04:37
IIIEars__You have to make money to support developers04:38
bob2TechOzone: then email again, and I'll poke mako to make sure he replies04:38
nuopusIIIEars___: Linux has been around for years .. Open Source04:38
bigfooti'm sorry to bother you all, but can anyone shed some light into my problem with gmailfs? apparently, it's not mounting.04:38
Yoshimitsulol ok thats a strange way of putting it04:38
bob2TechOzone: what address will it be from?04:38
nuopusIIIEars___: People do development for free in most cases04:38
TechOzonejonathanyaniv@gmail.com04:38
naliothYoshimitsu: the dev on PPC and amd64 lags behind x8604:38
nuopusIIIEars___: it is a different mentality with Microsoft people04:38
herpesTechOzone, spam time04:38
Yoshimitsubut because i have a g4 processor i should then go for mplayer-g4 should i not04:38
TechOzoneno04:38
IIIEars__still.. i would rather see more bandwidth and larger bounties.04:38
dabaSlon_mhmwoohoo, another addres on my spam list...04:38
TechOzoneno spamming04:38
naliothYoshimitsu: yes, by all means04:38
bob2mako:  jonathanyaniv@gmail.com is going to email you about some lost cds04:39
dabaSlon_mhmwere just reasing you...04:39
TechOzonelol04:39
bob2mako: fon't forget him/her ;p04:39
naliothYoshimitsu: my G4 is waiting for the APX drivers to be "found"04:39
Yoshimitsuoh ok04:39
TechOzoneum, i run a HUGE website devoted to technology, if any of you are interested in joining, please visit www.techozone.net04:39
cccbigfoot: yes, the two last entries on every line. (column 5 & 6) look at the other entries in your fstab04:39
bob2TechOzone: and please chill out in future, getting upset doesn't help anyone04:39
TechOzoneokay04:39
Yoshimitsui managed to install mplayer on here a while back while haory was still very unstable04:39
dabaSlon_mhmwe'll make sure to spam you, thanks, ozone:04:39
TechOzoneread my previous post about my website, www.techozone.net04:39
dabaSlon_mhm:)04:39
herpesTechOzone, and you like spam?04:39
TechOzonelol04:39
TechOzoneNO SPAMMING04:39
Yoshimitsuhowever the method o used then does not work now04:39
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TechOzoneyou dont even want to know what i do with spammers @ TechOzone04:40
TechOzonei report them to their ISP04:40
TechOzoneand get them kicked from their ISP04:40
bob2anyway, your website is off-topic04:40
naliothYoshimitsu: you can either build it yourself (which sometimes doenst work) or use the apt builder04:40
TechOzoneive done it already04:40
TechOzonelol04:40
bob2and it only seems to have 2 stories04:40
TechOzoneno no no04:40
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TechOzoneu mean the news?04:40
nuopusTechOzone: You cant get people kicked for 10 emails04:40
TechOzonelook in the forums?04:40
dabaSlon_mhmbob2: your directness, and disregard for ppls feelings always amazes me:)04:40
TechOzonehttp://site.techozone.net/fusion_forum/04:40
ech0hey, how come whenever try to open a file in vlc i get no sound output... console shows error: "oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)"04:40
naliothbob2 is the MAN04:41
Yoshimitsunalioth im getting the source through apt now04:41
dabaSlon_mhmech0: try changing the output plugin to esd04:41
ech0in vlc?04:41
bigfootccc, pardon my ignorance, I'm looking at my fstab right now and still need to ask you: what do you mean by "column 5 and 6"?04:41
bob2dabaSlon_mhm: my tolerance for people pushing silly commercial websites is very low04:41
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dabaSlon_mhmbob2: haha, another one of those I am talking about,...04:41
dabaSlon_mhmmaybe this guy erally puts a lot of work, into a really nuce website...04:41
yonilAAhhh ! I'm trying to install a package and it doesnt work cause of "broken packages" =S04:41
Yoshimitsuok nalioth i have some nasty looking output for you to have a look at04:42
dabaSlon_mhmand really it means everythign to him, and you tell use silly commercial websiet, but, I will let your wisdom, as the older...prevail:)04:42
naliothyonil: system specs please04:42
dabaSlon_mhmech0: yeah, there.04:42
naliothYoshimitsu: in the pm window, please04:42
Yoshimitsucool04:42
bob2yonil: don't use packages from outside ubuntu04:42
yonilbob2, didnt ....04:42
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dabaSlon_mhmok, well, bob2 is here now, I am out:)04:42
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naliothdabaSlon_mhm: what for?04:42
IIIEars__Has anyone tried an appearance on one of the computer tech tv shows on cable or a submission to slashdot?04:43
dabaSlonjust cause he knows everything, you dont need me...04:43
cccbigfoot: sorry i just read they didn't even have to be filled. i meant the dump and file system check fields (they are usually set to "0" & "0") at the end of each line in fstab.04:43
rixthIs there a tool (command ine or gui) to convet mpc files to mp3?04:43
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bob2IIIEars__: ubuntu releases have been on slashdot04:43
CybermagellanWill Linux use .hta files?04:43
naliothIIIEars__: for what purpose and who/what would you have on tv or /.?04:43
bob2Cybermagellan: what are they?04:43
bob2yonil: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood04:43
nuopusdude that is a cheap themed and canned web site you got there!04:43
nuopuslol04:43
naliothdabaSlon: we are needed for the light work04:44
nuopusPHP fusion with a generic downloadable theme04:44
bigfootccc, i see. taking another look, only /dev/hda1 has  dump 0    pass 1. all others have 0 0.04:44
Cybermagellanbob2 that is when you use HTML files to launch applications04:44
dabaSlondbernar1@veliki:~ $ ls /mnt/gmailfs     I get output as if the file is there....how come?? does this mean that I am really using the gmail storage for the file??04:44
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TechOzoneLOL04:44
nuopusj/k04:44
CarlK_rixth - is mpc moosepack?04:44
eskaypeyyo04:44
TechOzonei worked hard on that04:44
TechOzonesite04:44
TechOzoneover a year04:44
yonilbob2, check #flood04:44
TechOzonelol04:44
nuopusI did the same thing!04:44
IIIEars__Ubuntu is simple to install less than 30mins on nearly any hardware. install it for a tv host.04:44
nuopusLOL04:44
nuopusonly I used mambo04:44
eskaypeyis there any way to tell ubuntu not to install gnome on installations?04:44
TechOzonecool04:44
TechOzonePHP Fusion is better though04:44
TechOzonelok04:44
TechOzonelol04:44
nuopusNever tried it04:44
rixthCarlK, yeah, MusePack04:44
jeramyeskaypey: yes04:44
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CarlK_nuopus - I like mambo04:44
bob2eskaypey: you can do a server install, or install kubuntu, or just remove it after install04:44
nuopusMambo is very nice04:45
IIIEars__free publicity is much cheaper than free cds04:45
rixthIt's far nicer than M3 but no portable players support it.04:45
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bob2yonil: that's not what I asked for...04:45
rixthSony's HD5 is asweet deal though. I'm just waiting for mine to come from the other side of the world =/04:45
CarlK_rixth - yeah, even mplaer has trouble with mpc04:45
jeramyeskaypey: just type server at the beginning.  If you want KDE, after the install, just install kubuntu-desktop04:45
eskaypeybob2: does it give me server install option?04:45
cccbigfoot: yeah, and 0/off is the one the system uses as default for each device if they're left blank (i didn't know that before).04:45
bob2isn't mpc yet another proprietary patent-encumbered audio format?04:45
bob2eskaypey: yes04:45
bigfootccc, so everything is fine then with my fstab file?04:46
TechOzonei sent a nice long message to info@shipit04:46
Shuddertrixcan't you use wine and mpc2mp3?04:46
cccbigfoot: i just noticed you didn't have those in the line you pasted here.04:46
rixthCarlK, just have to wait till I can find a Windows machine.04:46
dabaSlonccc: do you know if the fact that I can put a file into that /mnt/gmailfs means I am using the online storage??04:46
rixthbob2, not that I know of04:46
eskaypeyjeramy: oh so i type server at the start and it installes everything but not gnome?04:46
IIIEars__Truely amazed by how wonderful Ubuntu is. never thought i could use linux for everything. but i do.04:46
bigfootccc, yes i didn't paste it here coz it was in fstab to begin with.04:46
bob2eskaypey: it installs a basic server system, yes04:46
TechOzoneaww, no one is registering to www.techozone.net04:46
TechOzonecummon guys04:46
TechOzoneplease04:46
TechOzoneregister04:46
dabaSlonha.04:46
yonilbob2, there ...04:46
TechOzoneits a good site04:46
bob2TechOzone: final warning, ever04:46
eskaypeybob2: i like that04:47
TechOzone:)04:47
dabaSlonyou will get a ban, please stop. I am serious.04:47
eskaypeybob2: thank you04:47
TechOzoneok04:47
cccbigfoot: no sorry, my knowledge ends here :/04:47
eskaypeythanks guys04:47
bob2eskaypey: np04:47
rixthIs Serial ATA support built in in kernel 2.6.10?04:47
ech0dabaSlon_mhm, theres no option for esd in the vlc audio perferences04:47
eskaypeybrb04:47
bob2rixth: as modules in the initrd, yes04:47
dabaSlonok, well, I dont know, I never used it...04:47
Amaranthech0:  You have to install the package for it04:47
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bigfootstill don't know why i can't get my gmailfs to mount. can anyone please help a 3 week old Ubuntu/Linux newbie? thank you.04:47
yonilbob2, its in #flood04:47
dabaSlonI know that is why you are getting the error, tho.04:47
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ech0oh i see04:47
TechOzone@bigfoot, i will help you04:47
CarlK_bob2 - http://www.musepack.net - License: GNU LGPL04:48
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bob2CarlK_: neat, my mistak04:48
yonilbigfoot, gmailfs? what's that?04:48
tritiumrixth, are you sure you want to convert from one lossy format to another?  Sound quality with degenerate further.04:48
TechOzoneGmailFS is the Gmail File System04:48
TechOzoneyou can store files on it04:48
TechOzonei love it04:48
TechOzonei use it a LOT04:48
bob2yonil: so, when I said "don't use packages from outside ubuntu", and you said "I don't", what did you mean?04:48
TechOzoneits called Gmail Shell04:48
bob2yonil: since you have half a dozen non-ubuntu sources in your apt config04:48
dabaSlonbigfoot: I have it mounted, and I can put files there.04:49
CarlK_bob2 - not like you are expected to review all new web sites each moring ;)04:49
rixthEven though SATA support is not at it's top, is it still laster than PATA?04:49
bob2yonil: include known broken ones like the backports and chritian marillat's archive04:49
naliothbob2 i aint seen so many entrys in a sources.list in my life04:49
rixthtritium, no ortable players support it.04:49
yonilbob2, but they're all pretty cool ... :\04:49
yonilbob2, thought these are ok04:49
bigfootmy problem is with mounting. I can see the the gmailfs "drive" in my computer:/// directory but I can't mount it. I get a mounting error even when i just double click on it. The mounting error is this : "mount: only root can mount /usr/share/gmailfs/gmailfs.py on /mnt/gmailfs"04:49
IIIEars__lol - apt source binge.04:49
dabaSlonbigfoot: http://pastebin.com/29110004:49
ech0w00t, thanks. works fine now. :)04:49
bob2rixth: SATA introduces some cool scsi stuff like TCQ, which would speed things up, if the hardware supports it04:49
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bob2yonil: no, they're broken and causing your problem04:49
yonilbob2, what can i do now ?04:49
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dabaSlonbigfoot: oh, I cant mount it neither, there...04:50
dabaSlonI can move files over to it, tho, through the terminal.04:50
dabaSlonech0: excellent...04:50
bob2yonil: comment out all the marillat and backport entries in there, then run 'sudo apt-get update', then try installing it again04:50
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bigfootif possibl, i'd like to use gmailfs with nautilus, rather than thru the textual terminal.04:50
yonilbob2, ok thanks04:50
bigfootis this possible?04:51
bigfootcan anyone run gmailfs outside of terminal?04:51
bob2bigfoot: dude04:51
bob2bigfoot: if it's mounted, it's mounted, terminal or nautilus04:51
bob2it doesn't matter04:51
bigfootoh, i see.04:51
bigfootdo you think you could kindly tell me why i'm getting a mounting error, please?04:51
dabaSlonyes, just open your home folder, and go to /mnt/gmailfs04:51
dabaSlonit is prolly cause it is mounted.04:52
icemanok how to reset keyboard input speed. HELP04:52
dabaSlonANd you are trying to do it again.04:52
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dabaSlonwow, weird/04:52
winmastertest04:52
winmasteryay04:52
winmasterit worked04:52
winmasterlol04:52
dabaSlonha, I know, bigfoot:)04:52
dabaSlongive me a few04:53
dabaSlonthe Shuddertrix guy gave you a weird command for the mount04:53
bigfootokay, i've gone into /mnt/gmailfs in my nautilus. I tried to drag and drop a small photograph into it, and i get this "Error While Moving" dialog window: "Error while moving items to "/mnt/gmailfs". You do not have permissions to write to this folder."04:53
hitchhiker|fakehehe04:53
bigfootdabaSlon, oh, is that so?04:53
dabaSlon I think so.04:53
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dabaSlonIll chjeck now.04:53
IIIEars__iceman - can you adjust it using "System" >> "Preferences" >> "Keyboard"?04:54
icemanHELP . UBUNTU OPENED A APP THAT SLOWED MY KEBOARD04:54
winmasteryay, i made a channel on here04:54
winmaster#techozone04:54
bob2iceman: stop it04:54
bob2winmaster: again...04:54
justinand omg, the shift key is stuck too04:54
IIIEars__iceman - don't panic - someone here knows how to fix it.04:54
winmasterirc:\\irc.freenode.net\techozone04:54
bob2winmaster: dude?04:55
tritiumiceman, what program did you open?04:55
winmaster@bob2  ya?04:55
ubotuWish i knew, winmaster04:55
IIIEars__iceman - can you use your mouse to navigate to system .. preferences .. keyboard?04:55
bob2winmaster: your channel and website are off-topic04:55
dabaSlonbigfoot: yeah, his command is weird. is he here? Shuddertrix?04:55
dabaSlonbob2: is this at all possible to run:  sudo mount /mnt/gmailfs ?04:56
Shuddertrixsomeone call?04:56
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dabaSloni Mean, obviously it is not mounting anything.04:56
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icemanWhat was the app. it opened when i ran wolfenstein enemy teratory.04:56
IIIEars__iceman? - still there?04:56
bob2dabaSlon: that would work if you had setup /etc/fstab04:56
dabaSlonhey, Shuddertrix, we are wondering how we would do that command at all./04:56
dabaSlonbob2: ah, ok.04:56
bob2you guys all have FUSE working already?04:56
tritiumiceman, you need to tell us...04:56
dabaSlonbob2: for gmailfs?04:56
icemancant type but real slow04:56
IIIEars__iceman - can't help you with that someone else here may know04:57
rixthbob2, my hard drive is (or will be, arriving tomorrow) http://wdc.com/en/products/productkit.asp?DriveID=57 I don't even know ha TCQ i8s =/04:57
rixthhat TCQ is04:57
rixthMy batteries are dying :(04:57
bob2tagged command queuing04:57
icemanit opened by itsef when i ran wolfenstein04:57
winmastergood night yall04:58
jasmuzrixth: too bad04:58
rixthSeagate ha something called NCQ, same deal?04:58
IIIEars__iceman - can you use the preferences .. keyboard dialog to reset things to normal?04:58
dabaSlonbob2: this is what we have got so far: http://pastebin.com/291102 .04:58
dabaSlonk,. Im out, 4 real/04:58
icemantryed04:58
icemannope04:58
ck2iceman, Apps, system tools, system monitor, Resources tab - is you CPU close to 100%?04:59
bob2dabaSlon: that's not even close04:59
bob2you need to setup fuse04:59
bob2I'm really really really sure gmailfs is not a kernel module04:59
dabaSlonthanks, bigfoot is doing it.04:59
icemanck2 no.04:59
dabaSlonbigfoot: can you make a post on forums after you make it work?04:59
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IIIEars__iceman - i don't know that a reboot will help anything. - did tritium have any help with the keyboard module?05:00
bigfootso what completed steps have i done wrong? what steps am i missing?05:00
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Shuddertrixyeah, you need to get fuse on there. i can't seem to get it to work05:00
bigfootdabaSlon, as soon as i get gmailfs working, yes i'll post on ubuntuforums.org. but as of now, i'm lost. 8-)05:00
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dabaSlonthanks, k, out.05:00
bob2bigfoot: the kernel doesn't know or care about gmailfs05:00
icemanwas a delay settings application .05:00
bob2the kernel knows about fuse05:00
bob2which talks to the gmailfs python program05:00
bob2you need fuse beforee anything else can happen05:00
IIIEars__iceman - going to poke around in ubuntu give me a sec.05:01
bigfoothow then can i make the kernel care about/ know gmailfs? 8-).05:01
ck2iceman,  - is everything else running normal, just a delay between pressing a key and someting happening?05:01
bob2bigfoot: you dont, you fix fuse05:01
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bigfootif fuse-ing is necessary, then please tell me how to go about it.05:01
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yonilanyone know an application for encoding avi files into divx ?05:01
bob2bigfoot: even the package description for gmailfs tells you want to do..05:02
ck2yonil, transcode05:02
bob2 To use GmailFS, please use fuse-source to compile appropriate modules05:02
bob2 for your running kernel.05:02
ViAiyonil: mencoder05:02
ShuddertrixThat's nice..05:02
bob2bigfoot: so install fuse-source and read it's instructions05:02
Shuddertrixconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:02
bob2Shuddertrix: install build-essential05:02
jasmuzyonil: did you see mencoder?05:02
bigfootbob2, true, tha package description of gmailfs in synaptic tells us about fuse-ing, but i was advised that it was unnecessary.05:02
bob2Shuddertrix: and please read the FAQ05:02
icemanty. i cant type fast so i cant respond fast. yes rest of system is fine05:02
ck2yonil, http://www.transcoding.org05:02
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bob2bigfoot: by who?05:02
Shuddertrixbob2: I have.05:02
bob2Shuddertrix: dpkg -l build-essential | tail -n105:03
bigfootby someone in this chatroom.05:03
yonilck2, ViAi , jasmuz I'll have a look at these, thx05:03
bob2what does that print out?05:03
IIIEars__iceman - would knowing the graphical defaults listed in "keyboard" help?05:03
ShuddertrixYou might also want to point me to the FAQ05:03
bob2Shuddertrix: it's in the topic05:03
ShuddertrixBesides, i probably broke something.05:03
bob2perhaps05:03
bob2nothing will work until build-essential is installed, tho05:03
icemani adjusted in control panel . no change05:04
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ck2iceman, what about typing in a terminal?05:04
Shuddertrixbob2: build-essentail was installed by me when I installed ubuntu (for the 4th time, stupid hard drive) a few days ago.05:04
jeramyShuddertrix: I got that too and I'm running Hoary.05:05
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bob2Shuddertrix: ok05:05
bob2then I'm not sure why a configure script would claim that05:05
IIIEars__iceman - likely bob2, crimsun or tritium has the answer. - i have only a month using linux05:05
bob2hwat are you trying to build?05:05
bigfooti'm trying to install fuse-source via synaptic, but it's telling me to put in the ubuntu cd-rom. is that necessary?05:05
yonilViAi, how do i use mencoder ? mencoder -help doesnt work, and i dont know what parameters to pass ..05:05
icemanterminal same way05:05
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jasmuzyonil: why dont you read about it...05:05
bob2bigfoot: no05:05
jeramyIt was right after there was an update for binutils that it stopped working...05:05
jeff25so any of you have mplayer installed?05:06
yoniljasmuz, where?05:06
bob2bigfoot: you can configure synaptic to get everything off the internet instead05:06
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bigfootbob2, how?05:06
bob2jeramy: you're using breezy?05:06
bob2jeff25: lots of people do05:06
bob2bigfoot: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto05:06
jeramybob2: no05:06
ViAiyonil: well, it's much like mplayer. I suggest you to generate a raw file and from that, generate the format you want to05:06
jeff25bob2: what's the best way to install it? apt-get install mplayer?05:06
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maxy_noobguys, I have a confession to make ...05:06
IIIEars__bob2 - how do you dpkg-reconfigure the keyboard?05:06
bob2jeff25: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:06
maxy_noobI believe I have the Linux bug.05:06
IIIEars__bob2 - iceman is stuck.05:06
bob2IIIEars__: there isn't anything like that, really05:06
ShuddertrixIt must just be the fuse-source, just ran a couple other configure scripts (that check and use gcc, also)05:07
bob2IIIEars__: there's setterm for the terminal and xset/gnome control centre for X05:07
IIIEars__is there a config file?05:07
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jasmuzmaxy_noob: lol05:07
maxy_noob:D05:07
IIIEars__reload the module with a cold boot?05:07
ViAiyonil: have you ever tried a look on mencoder's manual? Anything, I can help you too05:07
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maxy_noobfriggen nothing makes sense to me using it but it's exciting nonetheless05:07
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Shuddertrixplugging05:07
bigfootbob2, i read the wiki page, but it doesn't say how to get synaptic to not look for stuff in the cdrom.05:08
bob2bigfoot: yes, I know05:08
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jasmuzmaxy_noob: need any help?05:08
bob2bigfoot: but it does show how to edit the repository list05:08
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bob2and with a little lateral thinking...05:08
Shuddertrixmust be at least 20 cables and wires running all over now.05:08
IIIEars__maxy_noob - spend two weeks here and you will be a fearless linux user.05:08
maxy_noobThe only thing before I finally ditch Windows is to get my home network up and running.05:08
ck2bigfoot, in Synaptic, menu, settings, repos - you should be able to figure it out05:08
thechitowncubsI have a weird problem with gdesklets that I have no idea whats wrong... when I start it... it connects to the daemon fine, but then it starts spawning all these blank grey windows... And then to stop it I have to sudo killall -9 python to stop it from running. What could have gone wrong?05:09
bigfootbob2, i have some idea of how to edit the list. so just to confirm: i should delete the repisotory called "Cd Ubuntu ......" right? There won't be any harm in doing so,right?05:09
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jasmuzbigfoot: that is just the cd added to the list05:09
bob2bigfoot: yes, no harm05:09
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prediusGuys, do you have any idea why I'm not able to mount an ext2 drive?05:09
prediusmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1,05:09
predius       missing codepage or other error05:09
predius       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try05:09
predius       dmesg | tail  or so05:09
prediusthen dmesg =05:10
prediusEXT2-fs: hdc1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).05:10
prediusEXT2-fs: hdc1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).05:10
icemansome how, when running Wolfenstein Enemy teratory. a app launched that set keyboard delay. now i need to change it to normal.05:10
maxy_noobjasmuz: sure ... my home network05:10
REdswat did u type to mount it05:10
bob2predius: you made it with fedora and want to read it under ubuntu?05:10
JDahlanyone here use emdebian?05:10
KakasonHow do I install Ruby on ubuntu?05:10
IIIEars__maxy_noob - samba worked really well for me out of the box with ubuntu.05:10
prediusMade it under Ubuntu.05:10
bob2iceman: that sounds an awful lot like a problem with wolfenstein, not ubuntu05:10
jasmuzmaxy_noob: what are you conecting?05:10
bob2predius: are you using a 2.4 kernel now or something?05:10
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icemananyone know the app.05:10
prediusstock kernel.05:10
bob2Kakason: sudo aptitude install ruby-stuff-youo-care-about05:11
thechitowncubsIs there any way I could see what kind of errors it is spitting out?05:11
maxy_noob3ears: is there an interface for samba?05:11
icemannot a part of wolf.05:11
bob2predius: what does "uname -r" print?05:11
jasmuziceman: did you try to do a hard reboot...to see if your system is slow?05:11
predius2.6.10-5-38605:11
bob2iceman: ubuntu doesn't randomly "pop up a program which slows your keyboard down", either05:11
icemansystem is fine.05:11
IIIEars__iceman - It isn't that we don't want to help. just more likely someone has had the same experience and posted it on the web.05:11
thechitowncubsbecause when i run gdesklets in the terminal it connects to the daemon then it brings me back tot he console05:11
maxy_noobjasmuz: host box has ubuntu (2 NICs); three other boxes have XP (1 NIC each). We're all connected to a hub05:12
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jasmuzmaxy_noob: that sounds awfuly easy...where have you had problems?05:12
prediusbob2 2.6.10-5-38605:12
icemancant type to find it. so came here to start05:12
bob2predius: that is bizaare05:12
bob2predius: and you created it under the same kernel?05:12
crimsunstuNNed: pong05:13
maxy_noobthe XP boxes can see each other, but they don't have internet connectivity05:13
IIIEars__iceman - will you do a favor?05:13
prediusprobably not.05:13
prediusI'm trying different ones.05:13
maxy_noobI've used firestarter but that didn't seem to help05:13
prediusThey were all from the reps.05:13
IIIEars__iceman - when you find the solution will you share it here?05:13
icemanyes05:13
jasmuzmaxy_noob: did you start the internet superserver on your Ubuntu box?05:13
bob2predius: that's very odd05:13
maxy_noobuhm, not purposely, no (I don't think)05:14
maxy_noob(note the name: maxy_noob)05:14
jasmuzOk05:14
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jasmuzmaxy_noob:  im not much of a lan person ,,.....ask around...to see what you need to have your LAN running in no time05:15
maxy_noobask around here, you mean?05:15
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stuNNedcrimsun: remember we were talking about setting up two soundcards?  there is person in #creative could use some help with that, if you have a minute.05:15
jasmuzof course maxy_noob05:15
maxy_noobk, thanks for the encouragement, jasmuz05:15
icemanwhat file has keyboard settings/05:15
crimsunstuNNed: with ALSA?05:15
jasmuzyou are welcomed maxy_noob05:16
Epixis USB 2.0 backwards compatable with 1.1?05:16
IIIEars__maxy_noob - PSST! - crimsun is really very good. (don't tell him i blew his cover.) - grin05:16
jasmuzEpix: Of course!05:16
maxy_noobhahahahaha05:16
stuNNedcrimsun: right now oss but maybe alsa later, could you join please?05:16
maxy_noobthanks IIIears05:16
crimsunstuNNed: have him ping me when he's dealing with ALSA, thanks05:16
stuNNedcrimsun: got it, thanks05:17
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Epixjasmuz: i thought so. and when usb 3.0 comes out, my usb fondue pot will be able to melt so miuch more!05:17
jasmuzIs there any Lan dude here.... maxy_noob needs help on one05:17
maxy_noobthanks jas!05:17
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thechitowncubswhats the difference between completely remove and just remove in synaptic?05:17
jasmuzEpix: hahahaha05:18
Epixjasmuz: you read that on thinkgeek?05:18
Epix"track planes with laser beams"05:18
jasmuzEpix:  i read that...on the net05:18
jasmuzdont know where05:18
icemanshoot. stuck05:18
hybrid_goththechitowncubs: remove removes the packages complete removes the libs also05:18
bigfooti've just downloaded fuse-source from synaptic and read the accompanying readme.debian file. but i, a 3week newbie into the linux world have no idea how to make it work with gmailfs. Does anybody have some knowledge about fuse-source and gmailfs?05:19
nickrudthechitowncubs, remove leaves configuration files, completly removes configuration files05:19
maxy_noobI think Mr. crimsun might be busy05:19
crimsunmaxy_noob: did you need something?05:19
naliothEpix: those are the beams emitted by sharks05:19
maxy_noobHi crimsun05:19
Epixnalioth: nope :P05:19
maxy_noobYes, I'm not able to successfully get my home network working.05:20
maxy_noobhost box has ubuntu (2 NICs); three other boxes have XP (1 NIC each). We're all connected to a hub05:20
bob2bigfoot: /usr/share/doc/fuse-source/README.Debian05:20
hybrid_gothanyone know of a podcast util for linux?05:20
bob2or .gz05:20
maxy_noobThe XP boxes can see each other but they can't connect to the web05:21
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hybrid_gothbob2: hey how is it goin05:21
maxy_noobI tried firestarter but unsuccessfully05:21
bob2hybrid_goth: good thanks, how are you?05:21
hybrid_gothbob2: great just looking for podcast software for linux05:21
naliothwell well well05:21
bigfootbob2, i read the file, which group do i choose? which user ? sorry, pardon my ignorance.05:21
naliothanother filthy PPC user05:21
iceman?05:22
bob2bigfoot: I don't know what you're talking about, doesn't it explain how to compile it?05:22
naliothhybrid_goth is a filthy PPC user05:22
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icemanwhat is this / /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd/overrideSettings05:22
jeff25is there any way to disable gnome-terminal redraws?05:22
bob2hybrid_goth: isn't 'podcasting' just generating an rss file for some audio files?05:22
bigfootbob2, yes there are instructions, but i'm afraid i don't understand it.05:22
naliothhybrid_goth: that's the ladies bathroom window (i like to make a splash when i come in)05:22
hybrid_gothnalioth: heh05:22
jasmuzbob2:  the inverse05:23
crimsunmaxy_noob: I need a bit more info regarding the Ubuntu box. I presume only one of its nics is plugged into the hub?05:23
maxy_noobyes05:23
bob2bigfoot: just do what it says, "sudo adduser bigfoot fuse", where bigfoot is your user05:23
maxy_noobactually no05:23
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maxy_noobthe ubuntu box functions like a router05:23
bigfootthank you, bob205:23
maxy_noobit serves the internet to the others05:24
bigfootbob2, done.05:24
bigfootnow, after doing the fuse-ing, what's the next step in getting gmailfs to work?05:24
icemanwhere is sys.conf at/05:24
bob2bigfoot: cd ~/ ; tar -jxf /usr/src/fuse.tar.bz205:24
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bob2bigfoot: you don't have fuse working yet05:25
bob2you've barely started05:25
jasmuzbrb05:25
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bigfootoh, i see.05:25
crimsunmaxy_noob: only one of the Ubuntu box's nics needs to (should) be plugged into the hub05:25
bob2jasmuz: the inverse? music files of people reading out rs Dsfeeds?05:25
bigfootokay, did the cd ... command.05:25
maxy_noob(how do you guys message her with individuals names at the start of the message?)05:25
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bob2maxy_noob: you type it05:25
wasapim trying to compile the game boson 0.10 cause its not in ubuntus package system but it fails at this error checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found.05:25
bob2maxy_noob: or, type the first couple of letters, hit tab and let your irc client type it05:26
bob2wasap: install libqt3-mt-dev and build-essential, and read /usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt-dev/README.Debia05:26
wasapran synaptic and i have basically all qt3 packages installed already05:26
maxy_noobcool bob!05:26
maxy_noobcrimsun, you're right again05:26
bob2wasap: then rm config.cache05:26
hybrid_gothno one uses any podcast software in here05:26
icemanwell may toast ubuntu. stupid type rate05:26
bob2iceman: yay for blaming random things05:27
naliothhybrid_goth: this is the Ubuntu channel05:27
bob2I think it was your kettles fault, personally05:27
naliothhybrid_goth: try #twisted_audio down the hall05:27
bob2or maybe the washing machine's05:27
maxy_noobcrimsun, eth1 connected to internet05:27
justin*cough*pebkac*cough*05:27
maxy_noobcrimsun, eth0 connected to hub05:27
maxy_noob2 NICs on my (ubuntu) box05:27
icemancant type to search web05:27
bigfooti really don't know the next step to proceed in my attempt to get gmailfs running. please advise.05:28
D[a] veyhas anybody had much luck with ubuntu on laptops?05:28
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Aegir`Yeap05:28
crimsunmaxy_noob: ok, so your default iface on the Ubuntu box should be eth1.05:28
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Aegir`Much luck05:28
justiniceman: why would you need to search the web? go to the keyboard settings and undo whatever you did05:28
maxy_noobcrimsun, yes05:28
crimsunmaxy_noob: nics 1 and 2 should be on different subnets05:28
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Aegir`Davey, Whats your problem?05:28
bob2bigfoot: there's no readme in the dir you created?05:28
IIIEars__crimsun = is guru in finnish.05:28
DaveyAegir`: still downloading :D05:28
maxy_noobcrimsun, ok?05:28
DefHandzI need active x control to get Wine to run.05:28
DefHandzWhere can I get this?05:29
DefHandzO_o05:29
Aegir`Davey, Ahhh ;)05:29
bob2Davey: works great for lots of people05:29
DaveyAegir`: but I had serious issues with SuSE :/05:29
bigfootbob2, the readme is there.05:29
crimsunmaxy_noob: is ip forwarding enabled?05:29
IIIEars__well any language really.05:29
bigfootand i've read it.05:29
naliothi thought crimsun was the color of fresh blood05:29
Aegir`Davey, What laptop, what hardware?05:29
maxy_noobcrimsun, how do I check?05:29
DefHandzI need active x control to get Wine to run, where can I get it?05:29
icemannot in keyboard settings. some type delay application.05:29
bigfootthough wether i understand it is a different matter. 8-)05:29
maxy_noobfirestarter?05:29
bob2DefHandz: you need to be way way way way way more specific before anyone can help you05:29
DefHandzAlright.05:29
crimsunmaxy_noob: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward05:29
JDahlDefHandz, what do you mean? wine runs fine out of the box05:30
DaveyAegir`: its a Medion laptop, Celeron 2.6Ghz, 768MB RAM, 40GB HDD, SiS graphics and NIC IIRC. The biggest worry is my PCMCIA D-Link DWL-650 WNIC though...05:30
DefHandzI am asked to install Mozilla Active X control, but it never does...and I have problems running the programs because of it.05:30
Aegir`Hmm05:30
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DefHandzI most likely installed it wrong, being the linux newbie I am X_X05:30
Aegir`Davey, You'll just have to try and see.05:30
maxy_noobcrimsun, DONE05:30
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jasmuzDavey: did you look for the card in the Linux compatibility list?05:30
bob2DefHandz: what are you trying to run?05:30
DefHandzSteam05:30
Daveyjasmuz: I don't even remember where that is :/05:31
Aegir`Davey, If you still get issues, you'll have to google them specifically. Good luck :)05:31
jasmuzwww.linuxquestions.org/hcl05:31
DaveyI know some people have had success with it though, just don't know if ubuntu has support by default or not, if not, I can't get online to download what I need to get it working ;)05:31
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crimsunmaxy_noob: what's the value?05:31
maxy_noob105:31
crimsunok, good.05:32
bob2bigfoot: m-a -u .05:32
crimsunmaxy_noob: what networks are the nics on?05:32
bob2bigfoot: in the dir called modules05:32
bigfootwhat's m -a -u?05:32
maxy_noobXP?05:32
bigfootdo i go the modules dir and then run that command?05:32
bob2bigfoot: the command to run05:32
bigfootokay.05:32
bob2yes, that's what I said05:32
icemananyone know a delay type rate application in ubuntu. /05:32
Aegir`Davey, I know the feeling. I was stuck at school with a recently installed copy of Ubuntu. Needed to use the Wireless to get the kernel sources that I needed to install the wireless card in the first place ;)05:32
bigfootbob2: i got this error: bash: m: command not found05:33
DefHandzbob2, any clue what I should do05:33
crimsunmaxy_noob: yes and eth0 from the Ubuntu box05:33
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bob2bigfoot: then select "prepare", then select "SELECT", then select *only* fuse (with the space bar), then tab to <ok>, enter, then BUILD, say no, say no to installing, too05:33
r0dwhere can i get monodevelop plugins?05:33
bob2DefHandz: try #winehq05:33
bob2bigfoot: read again what I said05:33
bob2bigfoot: m-a, not m -a05:34
FlyingSquirrel31when I run tvtime in ubuntu, I get no sound.05:34
bigfootbob2, okay, i'm sorry. i'll do that correctly this time.05:34
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icemanwill look a log files05:34
maxy_noobcrimsun, I presume05:34
maxy_noobit sees "Windows Network"05:34
justinFlyingSquirrel31: increase the volume05:34
bigfootbob2, i did as you said and i still get an error: bash: m-a: command not found05:34
crimsunmaxy_noob: paste me their IP addresses in priv05:34
FlyingSquirrel31justin, ha ha, very funny... all of the ubuntu sounds are fine.05:35
maxy_noobcrimsun, ip addresses on my ubuntu box?05:35
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justinFlyingSquirrel31: yes, and all of them are irrelevant to the tv volume05:35
bob2bigfoot: sudo aptitude install build-essential module-assistant05:35
maxy_noobcrimsun, I don't assign them manually in XP05:36
thechitowncubsI have a weird problem with gdesklets that I have no idea whats wrong... when I start it... it connects to the daemon fine, but then it starts spawning all these blank grey windows... And then to stop it I have to sudo killall -9 python to stop it from running. What could have gone wrong?05:36
justinor rather, unrelated05:36
thechitowncubsbecause when i run gdesklets in the terminal it connects to the daemon then it brings me back tot he console05:36
thechitowncubsIs there any way I could see what kind of errors it is spitting out?05:36
FlyingSquirrel31justin, how do I control the tv vol? I tried audio vol boost.05:36
justinFlyingSquirrel31: run the mixer, increase the line in or whatever05:36
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IIIEars__nice tip bob2 :)05:37
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bigern|fswebhostgreetings05:37
crimsunmaxy_noob: on all the cards05:37
nalioththechitowncubs: i'm sure your problem has something to do with windows(tm)05:37
FlyingSquirrel31justin, sorry... the mixer... if this is as simple as you think it is I'm going to shoot myself.05:37
bigern|fswebhostgot a question05:37
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FlyingSquirrel31justin, What is the mixer?05:38
justinFlyingSquirrel31: the volume05:38
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naliothbigern|fswebhost: just ask05:38
justinyou clicky the little speaker icon until the other window comes up05:38
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bigfootIIIEars, just curious, what was the nice tip?05:38
maxy_noobcrimsun, I have DHCP enabled on all the boxes and they obtain IP addresses automatically05:38
bigern|fswebhosti loaded ubuntu horay b4 and it works great05:38
bigern|fswebhostwell05:38
bigern|fswebhosti loaded it on my rack server05:39
FlyingSquirrel31justin, oh you mean the volume control that appears as a speaker near the clock? if not how do I run it / what is the program name?05:39
DefHandzhow do I move files in konsole?05:39
bigern|fswebhostand instead of it going to the desktop05:39
bigern|fswebhostit just takes me to the command like05:39
naliothDefHandz: your answer (and pls read b4 doing) is "man mv" or "man cp"05:39
bigern|fswebhosterrrr05:39
bigern|fswebhostline05:39
justinFlyingSquirrel31: um, it's in the menus under sound05:39
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jasmuzDefHandz: mv foofile /foo/bar/directory05:39
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naliothDefHandz: cuz "mv" is another name for "delete"05:40
crimsunmaxy_noob: I still need to know their IP address05:40
crimsunmaxy_noob: if you don't feel comfortable pasting them publicly, just query me05:40
DefHandz....Why would I want to delete?05:40
DefHandzo_O05:40
DefHandzOH!05:40
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maxy_noobhow do I do that?05:40
bigern|fswebhosti have to login : username05:40
maxy_noobquery you?05:40
bigfootbob2, okay, i'm in the process of "prepare." Wow, it's downloading a 70MB file!05:40
maxy_nooboffer chat?05:40
bigern|fswebhostand password:05:40
crimsunmaxy_noob: /msg crimsun sometext05:40
naliothmaxy_noob: send a private message05:41
bob2bigfoot: that's odd05:41
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bigern|fswebhostthen i get the command line user@ubuntu05:41
justincrimsun: wtf do you need to know the specific ip addresses for?05:41
bigern|fswebhostit doesnt boot up to the desktop like on my other pc05:41
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crimsunjustin: subnetting.05:41
icemancrap need to reset keyboard config's05:41
FlyingSquirrel31justin, not system > prefs > sound ... No volume control there...05:41
darmouI'm using extended types and can't seem to find them in a search in the catalog.05:41
icemanhow05:42
justinFlyingSquirrel31: the first menu05:42
bigern|fswebhostdid ya'll follow all that05:42
eskaypeyim installing ubuntu when im upto configuring network step it configures it with DHCP allright but can not detect default route05:42
Amaranthbigern|fswebhost:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start05:42
eskaypeywhat do i do?05:42
bigern|fswebhostk05:42
darmouDo Archetypes need to be regisitered with the catalog somehow so they can be searched for with portal.search_catalog ?05:42
justiniceman: try clicking the menus on your screen and looking for the keyboard settings?05:42
haydenim trying to make a shell script, how can i get the current date in the form yyyymmdd to appear?05:43
bigern|fswebhostAmaranth command not found05:43
Cybermagellanhttp://hosting.cybermagellan.com05:43
naliothbigern|fswebhost: can you do the "startx" thang (or did you install the server ver of ubuntu?05:43
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icemanjustin . did no luck. some typerate settings app05:44
bigern|fswebhostoh crap, your right05:44
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bigern|fswebhosti did the server install05:44
Amaranthbigern|fswebhost: Yeah, you must have installed the server version.05:44
bigern|fswebhosti wasnt thinkin05:44
Amaranthbigern|fswebhost: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop05:44
FlyingSquirrel31justin, okay... I see what you're talking about, but it made no diff. Shame, I was getting excited.05:44
bigern|fswebhostduh05:44
justiniceman: control-alt-backspace?05:44
naliothbigern|fswebhost: add this pkg "ubuntu-desktop"05:44
justinFlyingSquirrel31: you have your tv card connected to your sound card right?05:44
CybermagellanLet me know if anyone wants hosting...05:44
josh_Anyone able to install a Java Runtime Environment?05:44
bigfootbob2, finally. am finished the "build" thing.05:44
naliothjosh_: that is a very general question05:44
Amaranthjosh_: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java1505:44
naliothjosh_: i've installed it on several client boxen, but not on my PPC machines05:45
moquijosh_, yes05:45
FlyingSquirrel31justin, Is there supposed to be a cable from the tuner card to the soundcard like cdroms usually have?05:45
herpesis it possible to use kernel 2.4 drives in a 2.6 kernel system?05:45
Amaranthno05:45
zulno05:45
justinFlyingSquirrel31: yep05:45
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icemanstill the same.05:45
Amaranthherpes: assuming you meant to say drivers05:45
bigfootbob2, in the flood did you see the line on "Couldn't create the /usr/src/linux symlink"?05:45
bigfootwill that be a problem?05:45
justinFlyingSquirrel31: some cards can do it digitally, but usually there is one05:46
jasmuzFlyingSquirrel31: there is a stereo plug from the OUT from the TV card to the IN jack in the Soundcard05:46
FlyingSquirrel31That's prob it. I never connect them but my cd's always play, so I've gotten out of the hgabit of bothering with them.05:46
Xenguyhayden: DATETODAY=`date +"%Y-%m-%d"`05:46
moquijosh_, google it05:46
justiniceman: system->preferences->keyboard05:46
haydenThanks Xenguy:05:46
moquijosh_, thats how i got what i needed05:46
josh_how do I add programs into my applications menu?05:46
justinFlyingSquirrel31: yeah, most programs support digital extraction to play cds that way..05:46
Xenguyhayden: yw (sets the variable)05:46
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naliothjosh_: are you asking for help installing, or just wondering if others got it installed?05:46
bigfootbob2, after finishing your instructions, i'm back on the main screen at "module assistant, interactive mode"05:47
justinbttv cards have a btaudio driver that gives you another dsp to read from, but for tvtime it is better to just connect the cable05:47
haydenXenguy, what do u mean 'sets'05:47
FlyingSquirrel31justin, SWEET!!!05:47
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icemanit slowed my type delay. some app. wolfenstein opened while i was playing. / need to find what app05:47
josh_How to install it because I go through and it says it installs, yet I go back to the site that requires it for firefox and it still says I need the java runtime environment plugin05:47
FlyingSquirrel31justin, you don't know how long I spent trying to install myth to get this to work.05:47
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Xenguyhayden: just mean that a variable is created that contains todays date in that form05:47
naliothjosh_: ubuntuguide.org05:48
haydenok05:48
FlyingSquirrel31justin, I thought that jack was extra.05:48
justinFlyingSquirrel31: well mythtv doesn't need the cable if you load the btaudio and tell mythtv to record from /dev/dsp2 or such05:48
justinthat is, if you have a bttv card05:48
eskaypeyshouldnt dhcp take care of default route?05:48
icemankde control center does not change it .05:48
naliothjosh_: are you on a intel x86 box?05:48
josh_no05:48
josh_AMD05:48
Cybermagellanif anyone wants hosting off my space send me an PM05:49
naliothjosh_: amd64?05:49
josh_No05:49
josh_Athlon XP05:49
Epixwhat does core dumped mean?05:49
FlyingSquirrel31justin, that brings me to the other quest.  I've gone through the myth install thouroghly,05:49
icemanlet me see if it affected gnome05:49
naliothjosh_: then you should have no trouble following the inst on ubuntuguide.org05:49
naliothi've set up several client x86 boxen with java05:49
josh_I tried to add the repositories from the site and it said login failed incorrect password...05:49
XenguyEpix: a program barfed, a lot :-)05:49
naliothjosh_: dont use apt to do java05:50
EpixXenguy: but what is this core?05:50
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FlyingSquirrel31but when I run mythfrontend I get : It gets denied access to the db05:50
josh_I'm using the link I was given05:50
icemangnome is ok ..05:50
XenguyEpix: google for details; that's the gist05:50
FlyingSquirrel31justin, how do I tell it the password for the db?05:50
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Epixgist?05:50
icemantype rate here is fine05:50
justinFlyingSquirrel31: you didn't add your user to the mythtv group05:50
ra21vihello room05:50
jasmuzEpix: its this huge debug log!05:50
XenguyEpix: gist, essential idea05:51
naliothjosh_: i've never had a bit of trouble d/l the .bin and following the inst05:51
ra21viI have just installed Ubuntu, is fast and I m messing my system to learn05:51
Epixrofl... http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~omri/Humor/CoreDumpedBlues.html05:51
icemananyone know where kde stores the type rate delay settings ?05:51
bob2bigfoot: lordy05:51
ra21vitell me how to install links05:51
bigfootwhat's lordy?05:51
bob2there's so many more useful things you could be doing right now05:51
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bigfootwho me?05:52
ra21vihow to install links05:52
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justinra21vi: the same way you install any other program05:52
bob2bigfoot: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) /usr/src/linux/05:52
ra21vijustin: 1st time using apt-get05:52
ra21vipls tell me the command05:52
FlyingSquirrel31justin, it's true, I was missing, but still can't connect to the db. does the backend or mysql need to be restarted?05:52
justinra21vi: no one said anything about apt-get05:52
justinra21vi: try reading the ubuntu guide?05:52
ra21viapt-get install links05:52
naliothra21vi: there is a fine apt-get howto on the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/05:52
bigfootbob2, do i just copy and paste as is, or do i put in my ubuntu username where you have "uname"?05:53
FlyingSquirrel31justin, besides the pw to the db is separate from normal user access, isn't it?05:53
bob2bigfoot: as is05:53
ra21vijustin: but its not listed in the package manager... and rite now i m in recovery mode...05:53
bigfootbob2, done.05:53
justinra21vi: try elinks05:53
ra21vii have messed with xorg.conf , and graphics not starting... but thats a lil problem05:54
eskaypeyhow do i set default route guys?05:54
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bob2eskaypey: why?05:54
ra21vijustin: tell me the command to install elinks in command prompt05:54
eskaypeybob2: well it detected dhcp but says it cant see default route05:54
naliothra21vi: it was just told to you05:55
FlyingSquirrel31ra21vi, for starting out, you may want to just use synaptic.05:55
Xenguyra21vi: apt-get install elinks (now read the guide)05:55
N17R0Hi how can I add Firestarter to my menu, so it run with root privilege ?05:55
bigern|fswebhostAmaranth thanx its almost done loading :D05:55
pingswepteskaypey: route add default gw 192.168.1.105:55
ra21vinalioth: tat was not told to me, i just made guess, :)05:55
ra21viXenguy: thanks05:55
pingswepteskaypey: That's probably not exactly right, but it's close.05:55
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icemanshoot ... i need to fix kde ... some application that changed delay of keyboard open while or when i ran wolfenstein enemy terattory.. and i cant find the application ... so my type rate is s l o w ... in kde ... anyone know the application05:56
pingswepteskaypey: man route for exact syntax05:56
josh_I still can't get java installed. The stated repositories do not work05:56
ra21viFlyingSquirrel31: as i said, rite now i m in command mode, rescue mode, so i cannt open graphical things05:56
eskaypeypingswept: route add -net default gw 192.168.1.1 ;)05:56
Amaranthiceman: Can you change it in kcontrol?05:56
naliothjosh_: dont use repositorys05:56
pingsweptIs that right? OK.05:56
moquijosh_, do you have the correct repos, if so have u ran apt-get update05:56
FlyingSquirrel31ra21vi, sorry, I just jumped into the conversation.05:56
naliothjosh_: download the bin file pointed out to you in the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/05:57
josh_need to install java. Period05:57
josh_I already did05:57
josh_it does me no good05:57
icemanAmaranth nope .. this was some small application that turned on keyboard delay ..05:57
pingswepteskaypey, remember that it will disappear when you reboot.05:57
ra21viiceman: configure KDE keyboard settings in control panel, or just get geeky, and look in xorg.conf05:57
CrustyPunkIs it at all possile to dual boot with XP and Ubuntu, when XP was installed after Ubuntu? I already tried reinstalling only GRUB from the Ubuntu install CD, that didn't work.05:57
Amaranthiceman: I'm sure it was, I'm saying it should be changable in kcontrol.05:57
ra21viFlyingSquirrel31: :), do u jump a lot :) just joking05:57
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icemancontrol panal ... in kde .. i tried several settings ... where in xorg.conf ?05:58
N17R0Hi how can I add Firestarter to my menu+icon, so it run with root privilege ?05:58
justiniceman: xorg.conf has nothing to do with it05:58
AmaranthN17R0: Use smeg to add it and for the command put gksudo firestarter05:58
naliothwell goodnight folks05:58
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haydenhow do i make a tar into tar.gz in shell?05:58
jasmuzCrustyPunk: check the www.ubuntuguide.org topic on that05:58
bigfootbob2?05:58
AmaranthN17R0: or whatever it is to run it, for command put gksudo <thatcommand>05:58
justinhayden: how many programs do you have that start with gz?05:58
ra21vihayden: bunzip05:59
bob2bigfoot: !05:59
N17R0alright let me check05:59
jeff25when I try to apt-get install mplayer I get get unmet dependencies - how do I deal with this?05:59
icemanlet me see if theres a post on et website ?05:59
Amaranthhayden: gzip foo.tar, iirc05:59
Daveyman I love cable :)05:59
DaveyHey Amaranth :)05:59
haydenthanks Amaranth05:59
bigfootjust wondering what to do now. I appreciate your time.05:59
haydenno thanks justin05:59
AmaranthDavey: !05:59
DaveyAmaranth: fancy finding you here ;)05:59
N17R0Amaranth: it works like a charm thx man :D06:00
AmaranthDavey: that's nothing, watch this :)06:00
Daveyyou know, this is a bad time (5 minutes from finishing my download) to wonder if I have ny blank CDs...06:00
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eskaypeypingswept: just was gonna say, how do you edit route permanently06:00
AmaranthDavey: :D06:00
DaveyAmaranth: damn dude, I'm gonna tap you for all your Ubuntu-fu :)06:00
justinhayden: enjoy being spoonfed.06:00
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pingswepteskaypey, no idea. Never figured it out. Wish I knew.06:00
Dreamer3anyone know how i can quickly turn off acpi and force APM?06:01
Daveyhmm, I only have DVDs.06:01
Daveycrap.06:01
haydenjustin: get over it06:01
eskaypeypingswept: cool thanks06:01
CybermagellanDreamer3: acpi=off06:01
Daveycan I put the CD ISO on a DVD?06:01
CrustyPunkOkay, better question: is it possible to boot into Linux without a boot manager? Because as of now, Windows automagically boots up and every tutorial I can find on boot managers only has directions for installing them from Linux06:01
CybermagellanI'm not sure about forcing APM06:01
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Dreamer3Cybermagellan: ah... well, wouldn't apm start if acpi doesn't?06:01
AmaranthDavey: That won't take long, I don't have much. ;)06:01
DaveyAmaranth: pfft06:01
pingsweptCrustyPunk, no. You definitely need a boot manager.06:02
jeff25can someone please point me to a guide that shows me how to install mplayer ?06:02
jasmuzCrustyPunk: why dont you enter with a live cd and fix grub?06:02
pingsweptGreat idea, jasmuz.06:02
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jasmuzCrustyPunk: or make a boot disk?06:02
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icemananyone know a application that changes the typerate delay in kde06:02
jasmuzjeff25: what problems do you have?06:02
CrustyPunkjasmuz: I tried fixing grub from my CD. It won't let me install it anywhere, even on a disk06:02
josh_So will anyone help me install java? I already have the stupid file, but its not installing06:02
subxeroHas anyone here successfully installed LIRC on Ubuntu 5.04?06:03
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jeff25jasmuz: whe I apt-get install mplayer-k6 I have unmet dependencies06:03
jeff25*when06:03
CybermagellanDreamer3: I dunno....I have had problems with ACPI....that is the only way I know how to turn it off06:03
justinjosh_: it would probably help if you explained what "not installing" means06:03
jasmuzCrustyPunk: i think you are doing it the wrong way06:03
Dreamer3Cybermagellan: *nods*06:03
jasmuzjeff25: does it ask you to satisfy dependencies?06:03
byounggukhello06:03
josh_Not installing means when I follow the install instructions it says the folder does not exist and wont allow me to install06:03
byounggukdo you know hanterm?06:03
Dreamer3i really have a terrible memory leak over a day or two (all my memory gets used up and starts to swap and really slow down) and i have no idea how to fix it... had it every since hoary06:03
CrustyPunkjasmuz: do I need to do it with the live cd? I don't have that; I have the full install cd06:03
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crimsunjeff25: use the testing debian-marillat repo with hoary multiverse and universe06:04
jeff25crimsun: I am I believe06:04
jasmuzCrustyPunk:  having a live cd is a savior in cases like that06:04
justinjosh_: it says "the folder does not exist"?06:04
jasmuzjeff25: dont use marillat06:04
jasmuzjeff25: use ubuntu-backports06:04
crimsunjeff25: you need to pass the multiverse version explicitly to aptitude06:04
CrustyPunkjasmuz: Because whenever I go into the installer, I skip everything else excpt GRUB. It tells me I can't install to anywhere, it stops at about 50% and says "Oops! I fucked up! But I won't tell you why!"06:04
josh_you want me to go through it all again to get the exact error?06:04
justinjosh_: how else do you expect anyone to tell you what is wrong?06:05
jeff25jasmuz: I've got backports and marillat in my sources.list06:05
CybermagellanHow do I control using Synaptic where plone gets installed to?06:05
jeff25crimsun: ^^^06:05
jasmuzCrustyPunk: did you have a complete setup already06:05
Dreamer3crimsun: don't guess anyone else started reporting memory leaks?06:06
jeff25crimsun: I've got marrilat and backports in my sources.list06:06
jasmuzjeff25:  ok....are you doing a apt via console or synaptic?06:06
crimsunDreamer3: nafaik06:06
josh_"bash: cd: /usr/java/: No such file or directory"06:06
jeff25jasmuz: console06:06
CrustyPunkjasmuz: Yeah. I had a complete install, GRUB and everything, then I had to reinstall Windows due to some problems, now I can't get to Ubuntu06:06
justinjosh_: and what did you type to get it to output that?06:06
jeff25The following packages have unmet dependencies:06:06
jeff25  mplayer-k6: Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed06:06
jeff25sorry06:06
justinCrustyPunk: press alt-f2, fix06:06
jeff25              Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed06:06
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justinjeff25: you're installing the debian mplayer packages, don't do that06:07
josh_exactly what the install instructions said06:07
josh_I copied and pasted06:07
AmaranthDavey: Make sure you get Smeg, GNOME 2.10 doesn't have a menu editor.06:07
justinjosh_: and what would that be?06:07
DaveyAmaranth: Smeg?06:07
jeff25justin: ok should I remove marillat from my sources.list?06:07
CrustyPunkjustin: press alt-F2 where? In the installer?06:07
AmaranthDavey: http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/06:07
justinCrustyPunk: yep06:07
crimsunjeff25: ugh, get rid of one of them. You want only ubuntu's (hoary main restricted universe multiverse) and debian-marillat's (testing main)06:07
Daveynice :)06:07
josh_"cd /usr/java/"06:07
Daveywell, crap06:07
Amaranthno, no marillat!06:07
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jasmuzjeff25: sudo apt-get -f install mplayer-k606:08
CrustyPunkjustin: I'll be back shortly, gonna try that06:08
jeff25crimsun: ok06:08
justinjosh_: maybe you should make that directory first?06:08
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crimsunI will not condone the use of ubuntu backports. At least Christian Marillat has a half clue of packaging.06:08
josh_I can't06:08
josh_It says i dont have access to06:08
justinjosh_: maybe you should be doing what the instructions say as root?06:08
josh_I did06:08
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justinjosh_: you obviously didn't06:09
josh_Yes, I did06:09
subxeroHmm. I've been trying to set up LIRC for a couple days now. I've looked at at least 4 guides on how to do it under Ubuntu, and somewhere along the way, something goes wrong, and I'm not quite sure how to fix it. If anyone could help me, I'd happily explain the problem in more detail.06:09
josh_I followed the instructions exactly as its typed out06:09
IIIEars__     Amarnth - did you have the "Break My Ubuntu" link? - it included marillat didn't it?06:09
josh_I am not able to add or change files in the usr/local06:09
justinjosh_: why not?06:09
krodwhats the root passwor.... just kidding ;p06:09
josh_How should I know?06:09
Daveywtf, why can't I put a CD ISO on a DVD? :/06:09
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jasmuzDavey: yes you can06:10
Daveynot using Nero06:10
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justinjosh_: well it didn't say, "sorry, I am not allowing you to change files in /usr/local", so what did it actually say06:10
josh_It said that don't have access06:10
jasmuzyou should google how..but im sure you can06:10
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justinjosh_: what is "it"?06:10
josh_I CANT CREATE FOLDERS06:11
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josh_what part of that do you not get?06:11
jeff25  mplayer-k6: Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed06:11
jeff25              Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed06:11
jeff25still isn't working06:11
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IIIEars__josh_ - what directory are you in?06:11
crimsunjeff25: you need main, restricted, universe, and multiverse from hoary enabled.06:11
justinjosh_: the part about you not bothing to give actual, real, error messages and instead your flawed interpretations of them06:11
cafuegoDavey: Use cdrecord. Works fine.06:11
crimsunjeff25: and you need to pass the version to aptitude06:11
josh_I gave real error messages06:11
Amaranthjeff25: get rid of marillat06:11
IIIEars__josh_ - you can try gksudo or sudo gedit.06:12
AmaranthDavey: Nope, different formats.06:12
josh_I've tried installing the damn thing and I can't do it and people are simply telling me to download a file I already have06:12
crimsunjeff25: like this: sudo aptitude install mplayer-586=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu606:12
AmaranthDavey: The DVD ISO has all of main on it though, iirc.06:12
AmaranthDavey: So it's worth it to get it.06:12
justinjosh_: why can't you do it?06:12
josh_I dont know how to use it06:12
justinjosh_: weren't you just talking about some instructions?06:12
josh_Because I can't make new folders and its required to install06:12
justinjosh_: why can't you make new folders?06:12
cafuegojosh_: You need to be root for that.06:13
AmaranthHe probably needs to use sudo06:13
josh_Do the insturctions have gedit instructions? Oh gee look at that they dont...06:13
justincafuego: well  he claimed he was06:13
cafuegojosh_: What are you installing into /usr/local, btw?06:13
josh_I dont know why I cant make new folders, your guess is as good as mine06:13
josh_java06:13
IIIEars__justin - quality asurance. - Ubuntu repositories have been carefully combed through06:13
cafuegojosh_: No.06:13
justinjosh_: YOU are the one sitting in front of YOUR computer06:13
josh_No shit06:13
Amaranthjosh_: You tried sudo?06:13
cafuegojosh_: Download the java .bin file. Run 'make-jpkg' (from the java-package package) on the file.06:13
cafuegojosh_: don't run the sun .bin file.06:13
josh_I dont have instructions for sudo06:14
justin00:08 < justin> josh_: maybe you should be doing what the instructions say as root?06:14
jeff25crimsun: here is what I got:06:14
jeff25deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse06:14
justin00:08 < josh_> I did06:14
Amaranthcafuego: fakeroot make-jpkg file.bin06:14
DaveyAmaranth: but I just finished downloading the CD ISO06:14
jeff25crimsun: is that correct?06:14
cafuegoAmaranth: indeed.06:14
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AmaranthDavey: So get a CD-R. ;)06:14
cafuegojosh_: 'sudo apt-get install java-package'06:14
Daveyunfortunately, its only 4x :/06:14
Daveytime for a smoke I think, brb06:14
josh_where?06:14
crimsunjeff25: yes06:14
AmaranthDavey: Oh, and unless you like pain don't upgrade to breezy.06:14
cafuegojosh_: Type that on the command line and enter YOUR password when asked for it.06:14
Yoshimitsubrb06:14
justincafuego: ah, I guess whoever was packaging that finally settled on a name heh06:15
justinwas wondering where make-j2se or whatever it was called went to06:15
Amaranthjustin: We've had that package since warty06:15
josh_It says I already have it06:15
cafuegojosh_: Good.06:15
IIIEars__ this link has some nice info on sudo http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:15
josh_my browser on the other hand says I dont06:15
Amaranthjosh_: fakeroot make-jpkg file.bin06:15
cafuegojosh_: Now run 'faekroot make-jpkg <name of the java .bin file>'06:15
cafuegofakeroot even06:15
DaveyAmaranth: I wasn't going to ;)06:15
Amaranthjosh_: where file.bin is the name of the file you downloaded06:15
jeff25crimsun: ok it's working... but now apt-get update says I have duplicates06:15
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AmaranthDavey: You actually read the topic? You're a dying breed around here, it seems. :)06:16
YomicWhere would I go for information on why my Hoary CD hasn't shipped yet?06:16
DaveyAmaranth: I didn't even know what breezy was when I read the topic, but I'm still a linux n00b, stable is fine for me ;)06:16
AmaranthYomic: You wouldn't, you only get information on whether it shipped or not.06:16
josh_Amaranth, you're not getting it. I install, it says it installed but in reality it does not. So I try to manually install it and it wont allow me to06:16
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DaveyAmaranth: actually, I guess Ubuntu stable relates closer to Debian testing which I used use on my server06:16
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Amaranthjosh_: That command makes a .deb file06:17
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YomicAmaranth: I see. And where would that be?06:17
Amaranthjosh_: which you install with sudo dpkg -i <nameofdeb>.deb06:17
tbastenanyone know how to make a folder so that u have to type in a password to access it, Like a personal folder06:17
AmaranthYomic: http://shipit.ubuntu.com06:17
josh_I've gone through the whole agreeing to the terms and blah blah blah06:17
cafuegojosh_: Is the make-jpkg command finished?06:17
IIIEars__Amaranth - nice tip - "fakeroot" Sun's info didn't help me only managed to get the vers command06:17
cafuegojosh_: Good. Then now you have a j2se*.deb or j2re*.deb file there.06:17
YomicAmaranth: Thanks.06:17
cafuegojosh_: Can you verify that?06:17
icemanwhat is the app to run in terminal that configs keyboard, mouse, display06:18
holycowhey guys ... i have a laptop here with an atheros wireless chipset, lsmod shows ath_pci installed, lspci names the atheros ethernet controller but lists it as 'unknown device', and ifconfig doesn't show ath0 available ... anyone know how to go further from here in terms of debugging?06:18
Amaranthiceman: xset, iirc06:18
cafuegoholycow: Is the madwifi driver loaded?06:18
justiniceman: when you screwed up your keyboard, were you running X as root?06:18
icemanjustin no06:18
josh_No06:18
cafuego!&($^* it is06:18
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nickrudjosh, cafuego it's sun*deb, if it's a sun bin06:18
cafuegojosh_: Any .deb files at all?06:18
justiniceman: then you don't need reconfigure anything06:19
cafuegoah yes06:19
justiniceman: add a new user account and see if that is screwed up too or not.06:19
jeff25what is a backport?06:19
josh_W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ubuntujava.yimports.com binary/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntujava.yimports.com_binary_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:19
holycowcafuego, appearently not06:19
icemanxorg.config . command to run06:19
cafuegojosh_: ls *deb06:19
cafuegojosh_: Does that list any files?06:19
|iceman|hey... that's my nick!  :o)~06:19
justiniceman: do NOT touch any xorg config stuff06:19
Amaranthiceman: xset06:19
josh_where am i typing that?06:19
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cafuegojosh_: On the command line06:20
holycowoh appearently i haveto compile madwifi drivers on ubuntu06:20
holycowi see06:20
holycowokay thanks for that tip, heh06:20
jeff25I get duplicates in apt-get update if I include the backport repositories06:20
jeff25why is that06:20
cafuegoholycow: If all else fails, use ndiswrapper.06:20
holycowhell no, i refuse to submit to that :)06:20
josh_ls: *deb: No such file or directory06:20
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cafuegojosh_: Ok06:20
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cafuegojosh_: Did you run that command in the same directory as where you ran the make-jpkg command?06:21
josh_yes06:21
cafuegojosh_: Did the make-jpkg command print any errors?06:22
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Davey*sigh* 57% written06:23
Daveythis is sad, longer to burn than to download :/06:23
bigbill52anickserv identify bigbill52a06:23
Daveyoops06:23
cafuegoDavey: it could be a 1X cdrom06:23
josh_dpkg: error processing jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.deb (--install):06:23
josh_ cannot access archive: No such file or directoryErrors were encountered while processing:06:23
Daveycafuego: 4x06:23
bigbill52aduh06:23
Daveybigbill52a: time for a password change ;)06:23
bigbill52ahit the wrong key...06:23
Daveyyou think?06:24
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thoreauputicbigbill52a: time for  a new password...06:24
cafuegoDavey: I'm just saying, it could be worse ;-)06:24
bigbill52acan barely remember this one06:24
Daveycafuego: pfft06:24
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bigbill52ahow do you change passwords?06:24
Daveybigbill52a: /msg nickserv help06:24
cafuegobigbill52a: /msg nickserv help06:25
Daveyhehe06:25
jeff25what is the difference between universe and multiverse packages?06:25
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cafuegojosh_: it said that when you ran 'make-jpkg'?06:25
jeramyjeff25: multiverse has non-free stuff in it06:25
cafuegojosh_: Their names and their content.06:25
jeff25jeramy: ah06:25
Daveyit took me 4.5mins to download, I'm at 74% burned and its taken 12.5 minutes so far :/06:26
josh_tell me exactly what to type then06:26
cafuegojosh_: What is the exactl filename that you downloaded?06:26
jeramyjosh_: Where is the sun .bin file?  Is it in your home directory?06:26
bigbill52adoesnt tell you how to change your password....06:26
nickrudjeff25, a backport is a package that is made unofficially, and meant to replace the original. Quality varies.06:27
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josh_jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.rpm06:27
nickrudjeff25, the reason you have duplicates is you are seeing ubuntu's package, and the backported package06:27
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erikahi06:27
justinbigbill52a: that is a pretty shitty password06:28
cafuegojosh_: You can delete that file, it's useless.06:28
cafuegojosh_: Go to the sun website and download the .bin file, NOT the .rpm.06:28
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bigbill52ayeah..but who would think that i would be that dumb...06:28
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josh_That was a bin06:28
IIIEars__justin - language please. :/06:28
josh_it made it an RPM06:28
cafuegobigbill52a: /msg nickrud help set06:28
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cafuegobigbill52a: uh, nickserv,  not nickrud :-)06:28
nickrud:)06:29
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cafuegojosh_: make-jpkg does not makes RPMs.06:29
josh_It was a bin then to access it, it extracted it into an RPM06:29
garnertrEvening all...06:29
cafuegojosh_: Yes, it was the .rpm.bin file. not the just .bin file.06:29
cafuegoRPMs are for redhat. not for Ubuntu.06:29
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erikacould anyone help me on how to install the correct vido drivers for 8vm533m-rz motherboard? i think it is an integrated proSavage8 ... is there and apt-get for it?06:30
jeramyRPM = Red hat Package Manager, iirc.06:30
Bluefirecafuego: you can do alien ont them06:30
josh_It said "Linux (self-extracting file)"06:30
cafuegoBluefire: Why would you, if you don't need to?06:30
IIIEars__"alien" can sometimes translate  RPM packages successfully06:30
jeff25nickrud: ah06:30
cafuegojosh_: No, the RPM says "Linux RPM in self-extracting file".06:30
jeff25nickrud: makes sense06:30
bigbill52adone06:31
bigbill52ahope i can remember it....06:31
jeramyjosh_: Unfortunately for us, Sun believes that Red Hat == Linux06:31
cafuegojosh_: The one you need is below that, "Linux self-extracting file  (jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin, 15.80 MB)"06:31
josh_Yeah which is not the one I clicked on06:31
josh_I clicked on the very bottom one06:31
cafuegojeramy: No, sun has two files for download. josh_ got the wrong one.06:31
nickrudjeff25, http://pastebin.com/290397 has a good sources.list to work from06:31
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josh_Just give me the command, I DLed the file...again says .bin06:32
cafuegojosh_: If you got the right file, it would not have extracted to a .RPM06:32
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jeff25nickrud: thanks06:32
josh_Then give me the command line I need. I have the new file06:32
justinjosh_: ffs, it's the same command as before06:32
jeramycafuego: Yeah, I know.  :)  Mostly that comes out in press releases and stuff.  It would be nice if they provided an rpm and a deb06:32
cafuegojosh_: You have jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin?06:32
IIIEars__cafeugo - I know that using java and web plugins are just asking for trouble but i can't ressist can you walk josh_ through installing it. - for josh_ - :)06:33
jeff25nickrud: it turns out that marillat was my problem06:33
josh_yes06:33
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nickrudjeff25, yes06:33
jeff25nickrud: I commented them all out and the duplicates went away06:33
cafuegojosh_: Ok. Does it live in your home directory?06:33
justinjeramy: no, it would be nice if they would just give up with the useless java license crap, then no one would have to deal with it06:33
icemancant create an account06:33
josh_Its on my desktop06:33
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justiniceman: what does "cant create an account" mean?06:33
cafuegojosh_: Open a shell, then cd to your Desktop directory.06:34
icemancrap. must i reintall06:34
nickrudjeff25, now, to be precice, it wasn't a problem.06:34
jeramyjustin: Very true.06:34
josh_I just started using Ubuntu today...I have no idea how to do any of that06:34
jeff25nickrud: ah06:34
cafuegojosh_: On the menuu, chick System Tools -> Terminal06:34
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justiniceman: why the hell would you need to do that?06:34
cafuegoclick too06:34
jeff25nickrud: I guess I see what you mean.  there were more than one package with the same name06:34
lampshadeRAH!06:35
justiniceman: you obviously screwed up something in your user account and don't know how to fix it. so just create a new user account.06:35
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josh_Ok, then what?06:35
cafuegojosh_: 'cd Desktop'06:35
bigfootbob2, hi theer.06:35
icemanto much delay in keyboard06:35
bigfootthere.06:35
bzbbwhat's the best method to install Radeon Drivers?06:35
josh_ok, then06:35
nickrudjeff25, having more than one package to choose from gives you versatility, but you must judge the quality of the non-ubuntu packages06:35
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cafuegojosh_: 'ls -l jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin'06:35
cafuegojosh_: Does that list the file?06:35
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josh_ls: jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin: No such file or directory06:36
icemantried to make new used. crashd and backto login screen06:36
cafuegojosh_: 'ls -l jre*'06:36
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bigfoothi everyone. can someone please help me, a newbie?06:36
josh_ok then what?06:36
Linux_Manbigfoot: what ?06:36
cafuegojosh_: What does that show?06:36
justiniceman: tried how06:36
josh_Lots of stuff06:36
icemancan type got to hold keys long time06:37
cafuegojosh_: Such as?06:37
erikacould anyone help me, please, on how to install the correct vido drivers for 8vm533m-rz motherboard? i think it is an integrated proSavage8 ... is there and apt-get for it?06:37
bigfootLinux_Man, it's about getting gmailfs working.06:37
icemankde user manager06:37
josh_bin, changes, copyright, i386, javaws and more06:37
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Linux_Manbigfoot: no can do there06:37
justindon't use the kde user manager06:37
cafuegojosh_: Did you try to run the .bin file at all after downlaoding it?06:37
justinjust run adduser06:37
icemanbrb06:37
josh_no06:37
thoreauputiccafuego: I have a feeling he's in the wrong dir06:38
cafuegothoreauputic: Indeed.06:38
josh_How so? My desktop is my desktop06:38
cafuegojosh_: 'sudo find / -name jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin' and wait until that finishes.06:38
jeramyjosh_: type pwd06:38
thoreauputiccafuego: your patience is exemplary :)06:38
cafuegojosh_: Well, the file you say you downloaded doesn't exist on your desktop, apparently.06:38
justincafuego: why would you have him do that? you can just right click the file and go to the properties06:39
josh_I'm looking at it right now06:39
bzbbDo I just use alien on the .rpm for Xorg from th ATI site?06:39
cafuegothoreauputic: Chainsmoking here...06:39
thoreauputichehe06:39
jeramyAt the prompt it says "josh@linux:~/Desktop$   ??06:39
josh_No06:39
jeramyWhat does it say?06:39
josh_josh@WhiteRaven:~/Desktop$06:39
cafuegobzbb: I'm pretty sure the fglrx driver is prepackaged in the 'restricted' repository.06:39
justinbzbb: no, you install the packages that you already have for the fglrx drivers06:39
jeramyoh ok.  :)06:39
thoreauputichaha06:39
jeramyDo you see the .bin file on your desktop?06:39
thoreauputicsorry06:39
josh_Yes06:40
jeramylike, the icon?06:40
jeramyOk.06:40
josh_yes06:40
cafuegojosh_: 'ls *bin'06:40
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jeramySo if you just do ls, does it show up?06:40
cafuegojosh_: Does that list it?06:40
josh_its an icon with a browish diamond and says SH06:40
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josh_no it just asked for the password then went back to josh@WhiteRaven:~/Desktop$06:40
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cafuegojosh_:  'ls *bin' asked for a password?06:40
josh_no the last thing you asked06:41
josh_and yes it lists the file06:41
cafuegojosh_: Yeah. type 'ls *bin' for me.06:41
cafuegojosh_: Can you paste the filename here?06:41
Linux_ManWohooo i got wine to un ARES06:41
jeramyperfect.  So you see it.06:41
josh_it shows jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin06:41
cafuegojosh_: Select it with the mouse, then middle-click in IRC.06:41
cafuegojosh_: Ok. So you have the 02 version, not the 03 version.06:42
holycowwhich package contains shareutils?06:42
cafuegoit would be handy to tell me next time ;-)06:42
justincafuego: he needs to learn the concept of tab completion06:42
holycowoh nm, typ06:42
cafuegojosh_: Run 'fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin'06:42
justincafuego: you realize he is sitting there typing out every _ ?06:42
holycowtypo06:42
josh_Thats the one java has on their site06:42
cafuegojosh_: Thety have a newer one, I'06:42
jeramyjosh_: and when you get to the jre, just press tab and it'll fill in the rest.06:42
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cafuegom looking at their site now. But for now, lets' work with the 02.06:43
josh_um....errors...06:43
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jeramyWhat's the error?06:43
cafuegojosh_: What errors?06:43
razUninstalled MPlayer but it is still under 'Sound & Video', how can I remove it from there?06:43
josh_says this like 5 times in a row06:43
josh_sh: gcc: command not found06:43
josh_dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)06:43
jeramyah.06:43
cafuegojosh_: Ok, not a problem. 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'06:44
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jeramyType in "sudo apt-get install build-essential'06:44
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cafuego@lose jeramy06:44
ubotucafuego: I haven't a clue06:44
jeramyYeah, cafuego you beat me to it.  :)06:44
jeramy:P06:44
josh_well it asks if this is correct....do I press y or n?06:44
cafuegoubotu: you're useless06:44
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IIIEars__iceman - helpful tips on working with passwords. 2/3 of the way down the page  http://ubuntuguide.org/06:44
cafuegojosh_: 'y'06:44
josh_Um....it put down the license terms and stuff....06:45
cafuegojosh_: Yes, you need to agree to those.06:45
cafuegojosh_: Just follow the instructions.06:45
josh_and now its inflating like 500 million files...06:46
cafuegojosh_: Yes, all good.06:46
josh_but i couldnt type what you said to06:46
cafuegojosh_: That's OK. Looks like that wasn't necessary.06:46
josh_and now it says its creating Creating jre1.5.0_02/lib/rt.jar06:46
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josh_kind of sitting there for a bit...06:46
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icemancrap.06:47
cafuegojosh_: yeah, that would be quicker on a faster cpu.06:47
josh_Um...some errors came up...06:47
paulproteusIs anyone around here in Rochester, NY?06:47
cafuegojosh_: errors?06:47
josh_chmod: cannot access `/etc/.java/.systemPrefs/.system.lock': No such file or directory06:47
justinI've been to Rochester, does that count? :-P06:47
icemancant fix this. typerate to low06:47
paulproteusjustin: Kinda. ;)06:47
cafuegojosh_: Yeah, just ignore 'em06:47
justiniceman: make. a. new. user. account.06:47
razUninstalled Mplayer, but it's 'shortcut' is still present under Apps->Sound & Video.. how do i take I delete it from there?06:48
IIIEars__ubotu - what was your question?06:48
ubotuIIIEars__: I give up, what is it?06:48
josh_Ok it says Create debian package: and has a list06:48
cafuegoIIIEars__: uBOTu06:48
icemantried in gnome. x cant start it06:48
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cafuegojosh_: Cool.06:48
IIIEars__cafuego - ah okay.06:48
IIIEars__a bot would be nice here.06:49
MadpilotIIIEars: run whois on ubotu, man. chat bot?06:49
josh_Is it supposed to do anything after that?06:49
vince_hello all. has someone been successful in using the framebuffer and a splash image at boot time (like in gentoo)?06:49
icemanone app, it resets keyboard delay06:49
cafuegojosh_: If you're back at the shell prompt, it's done and there will now be a .deb file there.06:49
DaveyOK, I have it burned. bbs I hope :)06:49
Madpilotubotu: what colour are you?06:49
ubotuMadpilot: what are you talking about?06:49
Madpilot:)06:49
josh_Well I'm getting the...sh: gcc: command not found06:49
josh_dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)06:49
cafuegojosh_: 'ls *deb' will list it.06:49
icemansec06:50
cafuegojosh_: Ok, not done yet then06:50
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bzbbok, after I install fglrx, how do I set it up?06:50
cafuegobzbb: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:51
IIIEars__Good Night! - :)06:51
bzbbthanks06:51
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AmaranthDavey: any luck?06:51
Madpilotubotu: are you a bot?06:51
ubotuMadpilot: Wish i knew06:51
cafuegoubotu: what are you06:51
ubotuI am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot>06:51
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AmaranthNo bots.06:51
razHow do you edit/delete things from the 'Applitcations' menu?06:51
cafuegoAmaranth: Eh, why did you do that?06:51
lilmdkhas anyone had any trouble running nicotine on hoary ?06:52
Amaranthraz: Use smeg. It's on the forums.06:52
cafuegoAmaranth: ubotu is here to provide package info.06:52
Amaranthcafuego: You didn't ask.06:52
cafuegoAmaranth: Actually, I did.06:52
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cafuegoAmaranth: /msg bob2 did cafuego ask about the bot?06:52
Amaranthcafuego: Who gave you permission to bring in a bot that floods the channel?06:52
josh_How do I know when its done?06:52
Madpilotso, what *is* a blootbot?  <-- IRC noob here...06:52
AmaranthMake it not say anything in the channel and be able to be used from a PM.06:52
cafuegoAmaranth: The bot doesn't flood the channel, it responds ONLY when addressed directly.06:53
cafuegoAmaranth: Well, that's easy enough.06:53
AmaranthThen it doesn't matter if it's +q. :P06:53
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ra21vihi, I am back...06:53
Amaranthcafuego: I'll talk to bob2 about it.06:53
justinum, well if it is +q, then it CANT respond when addressed directly06:54
ra21vitell me how to change the resolution to 800x600,06:54
icemancan start new account06:54
josh_cafuego: how do I know when its done06:54
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ra21viits default to 640x480 and gnome-display-properties only showing this option06:54
crimsunjustin: +q doesn't affect queries.06:54
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ra21vianyone please06:54
justinit also makes things like ~+info foo-package useless06:54
hajuuhey06:55
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cafuegojosh_: It's done where you're back at the shell prompt.06:55
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hajuuI recently installed Ubuntu.. (last night) and im having some problems with my dialup06:55
josh_which I am06:55
Aegir`hajuu, whats the problem?06:55
Amaranthjustin: When I talk to bob2 we'll decide whether or not it should be able to do that.06:56
Yoshimitsuwhen i start mplayer i get this error any idea why. and also when i try to play something through the Mplayer GUI it crashes.. Failed to open /home/acidwolf/<06:56
Madpilotra21vi: did you start Ubuntu w/ the monitor turned off?06:56
cafuegoit ignores any non-privmsg stuff now.06:56
cafuegojosh_: Ok, then it's finished. 'ls *deb'06:56
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hajuuThe problem is that its going rediculously slow... I havent configured my modem at all.. I just autodetected it because I couldnt actually find any modem config06:57
josh_cafuego:  ok then what?06:57
cafuegojosh_: What file did that list?06:57
nickrudra21vi, please do grep Default /var/log/Xorg.0.log > ~/resolutions, and paste that on pastebin.com06:57
josh_cafuego: sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb06:57
icemanslow keys function ... was the problem06:57
cafuegojosh_: 'sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb'06:57
icemanin accessibility ...06:57
thoreauputichajuu: I suggest you run ` sudo pppconfig` and then use the pon and poff commands (I had a similar problem)06:58
josh_cafuego: its back at the prompt again06:58
thoreauputichajuu: pppconfig will ask the relevant questions06:58
hajuuoh nice06:58
hajuuthanks06:58
cafuegojosh_: Did it print any errors?06:58
cafuegojosh_: Or just info?06:59
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josh_cafuego: some info like unpacking and Setting up06:59
cafuegojosh_: Good. type 'java -version'06:59
hajuuFor a dialup connection.. do I want none for dns.. static.. or dynamic?06:59
hajuunone right?06:59
thoreauputichajuu: if you find /dev/modem doesn't work, try /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS106:59
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josh_java version "1.4.2"07:00
hajuuyeah I am using /dev/ttyS0 .. that was my first try hehehe07:00
cafuegojosh_: Ha. You have an older java version installed that's overriding the new one.07:00
josh_cafuego: but i didn't have one before07:00
cafuegojosh_: yes, you did.07:00
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josh_cafuego: then why did my browser state I didn't?07:01
Davey|Workwell that was somewhat aborted :(07:01
gauthamhi folks07:01
cafuegojosh_: Because the one you just installed does _not_ print that notice.07:01
nickrudra21vi, do you need help with that?07:01
hitchhikerhi my lord07:01
Davey|WorkCarlK_: guess what...07:01
josh_cafuego: so then what?07:01
dabaSlonyoyoyo:)07:01
cafuegojosh_: Your browser needs a java plugin as well as java. probably the other version didn't install a plugin.07:01
dabaSlonheh07:01
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josh_cafuego: so where do I get a plugin?07:02
Davey|Workcafuego: according to both Nero in winXP on my laptop and to the machine at startup, Ubuntu didn't burn07:02
gauthami cant change my screen resolution to 800*60007:02
gauthamwhat shu i do?07:02
cafuegojosh_: The new package installed one.07:02
Davey|Workbut I can see in the coloration on the disk it did :/07:02
cafuegojosh_: So now you need to get rid of the old one.07:02
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gauthamhow to change screen reolution?07:02
gauthamto 800*600?07:03
cafuegojosh_: As to how to do that, it depends on how you installed it.07:03
josh_cafuego: well then my browser will agree to disagree07:03
hitchhikerctl art -07:03
josh_cafuego: it still says I am missing the plugin07:03
hitchhikers/art/alt/07:03
nickrudgautham, what kind of video card do you have07:03
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Daveyweird... my desktop reads the fucking CD just fine :/07:03
Madpilotjosh_: which browser?07:03
hajuuok ive run pppconfig now07:04
josh_cafuego: Firefox and Konqueror07:04
hajuuHow do I use that connection I just setup?07:04
Daveythis is ridiculous07:04
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Daveywhy would a CD drive not read a disk?!07:04
hitchhikerfirefox is goood ^_^07:04
gauthamMadpilot, i cant change my screen rsol. can u help?07:04
thoreauputichajuu: assuming you didn't specify a provider, just type "pon" in a terminal07:04
hajuu/usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'07:05
dr_willisDavey,  your laptop wont read a cd that your desktop will? or is this a dvd disk? how old is the laptop?07:05
Madpilotgautham: maybe. keep in mind I've only been using Linux ten days, tho!07:05
hajuuwhen I run pon07:05
hitchhikerMadpilot<]   hehe07:05
thoreauputichajuu: if you did specify, then type "pon <providername>"07:05
hitchhikerMadpilot<]   me too07:05
thoreauputichajuu: if it doesn't work, check that you are a member of the dialout and dip groups07:06
Daveydr_willis: laptop is about 15 months old07:06
josh_cafuego: firefox says...and I quote..."Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page."07:06
Daveydr_willis: has a CD-RW/DVD combined drive07:06
gauthamhajuu, help needed for screen resolution07:06
Aegir`Davey, if it is not reading on boot up, try and get to the boot source selector menu. On my Acer its F12 and brings up Network boot, Cdrom, Floppy (Even though it doesnt have one) and HD07:06
gauthamanybody in here07:06
Aegir`Thats usually the best solution. If not, it may be a bios setting07:06
gauthamcan u pls tell me how to change my screen?07:06
DaveyAegir`: oh, even windows can't see the contents of the CD07:06
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hitchhikerjosh_<  http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=215807:07
Aegir`Davey, Then the CD was burnt crappilly. Wipe the CDRW and try again ;)07:07
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nickrudgautham, do you know what kind of video card you have?07:07
nickrudif not, we'll show you how to find out07:07
gauthamnickrud, yes intel i810 device07:07
nickrudah, I've done that one :)07:08
_jeramyCan someone with wireless post a couple of things here for me?07:08
gauthamnickrud, pls tell me07:08
hitchhikergautham<  hehe07:08
josh_cafuego: I know the program its telling me to get. Java runtime environment07:08
nickrudok, we're gonna do 3 things: set up the memory, configure the monitor, and set the screen resolutions07:08
DaveyAegir`: but windows on the machine it was burned on can see it07:08
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gauthamnickrud, ok go ahead07:08
razCould anyone give me a hand w/ SMEG ?07:08
hitchhikerjosh_<  intall jre07:09
Aegir`Davey, Hmmm. Dont know really.07:09
nickrudin a terminal, do cd /etc/X1107:09
nickrudthen, sudo nano xorg.conf07:09
thoreauputichitchhiker: that's what he's ben trying to do for the last hour07:09
cafuegojosh_: You just installed jre 1.5.0207:09
hitchhikerjosh_<  why?07:10
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cafuegohitchhiker: he did. he's got an old (non-pakaged?) 1.4.2 interfering with it.07:10
josh_cafuego: install: too few argumentsTry `install --help' for more information.07:10
gauthamnickrud, yes done07:10
hitchhikerjre 1.4.2 is ok. I am sure. hehe07:10
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cafuegohitchhiker: No, because hios 1.4.2 install has no mozilla plugin.07:10
josh_cafuego: says I dont have it. Any ideas on that?07:10
gauthamnickrud, im in the editor07:11
hitchhikerintasll jre...07:11
gauthamnickrud, what next?07:11
nickrudok, scroll down till you get to i810 under device07:11
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hitchhikerok ok07:11
gauthamnickrud, got it07:11
cafuegojosh_: run 'which java'07:11
josh_cafuego: it had the button to click on to install the plugin needed and it comes up with the program that clearly says "Java Runtime Environment"07:11
thoreauputichitchhiker: leave it to cafuego: you are jumping in in the middle07:11
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hitchhikerinstall jre 1.4.2_0x and copy files07:11
cafuegohitchhiker: He has jre 1.5.0 update 02 installed already07:12
thoreauputichitchhiker: umm... silence is golden07:12
josh_cafuego: /usr/bin/java07:12
hitchhiker1.5.0 sucks07:12
Daveyman, is ubuntuforums.com working?07:12
gauthamnickrud,  it sayd i810 device.................PCI bus ID 0:2:007:12
cafuegohitchhiker: Ok, YOU help him then.07:12
cafuegojosh_: hitchhiker is going to help you fix the problem now.07:12
hitchhiker1.4.2_08 sucks07:12
hitchhiker1.4.2_04 is ok07:13
josh_cafuego: what? no07:13
Davey.org, whatever07:13
gauthamnickrud, what next?07:13
nickrudcreate a line under the line that has i810 in it07:13
hitchhiker^_^07:13
razCould anyone give me a hand w/ SMEG ?07:13
josh_cafuego: I'm not doing that all over again because he doesn't like the program version07:13
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gauthamnickrud, done07:13
nickrudhitchhiker, I've done this twice, if you have help07:13
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cafuegojosh_: Ok then. '/usr/bin/java -version'07:14
hitchhikerI just do this in my firefox... it works07:14
hitchhikerjava ok ^_^07:14
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hitchhikerflash ok ^_^07:14
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josh_cafuego: java version "1.4.2"07:14
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nickrudok, type "Options" "VideoRam" 3276807:14
thoreauputichitchhiker: not to be rude, but please but out: you are just complicating the situation07:14
ra21vido anybody know how to change the resolution>07:15
hitchhikerox players ok ^_^07:15
ra21viscreen resolution07:15
cafuegojosh_: 'ls -l /usr/bin/java'07:15
gauthamnickrud, i shud write type also?07:15
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user915I hate being a newbie.07:15
hitchhikerauto lunch ok ...07:15
nickrudgautham, :)07:15
gauthamnickrud, dude bear with me im a newbied07:15
josh_cafuego: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 22 2005-05-27 21:58 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java07:15
nickrudno problem, it's only an editor, and we can always get back to where we started07:16
cafuegojosh_: 'ls -l /etc/aternatives/java'07:16
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Daveyis there a netinstall for ubuntu?07:16
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hajuuOk...07:16
hajuuSo uhm07:16
josh_cafuego: ls: /etc/aternatives/java: No such file or directory07:16
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hajuuI got that console dialer working07:17
hajuupon07:17
hajuuBut07:17
cafuegojosh_: typo, you forgot an 'l'07:17
nickrudgautham, scroll down to where you see generic monitor07:17
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hajuuno programs in my gui can access it07:17
hajuuWhy might that be?07:17
nickrudgautham, do you have the book for your monitor?07:17
segphaultok, I've pretty much ascertained that LIRC doesn't work with USB devices on Ubuntu. Anybody out there who has been able to do it?07:17
cafuegoDavey: You can use the debian netinst and edit sources.list halfway through ;-)07:17
hajuuinfact.. NOTHING can access it07:17
hajuuFull stop07:17
thoreauputichajuu: you can make a launcher for the command07:17
Daveycafuego....07:17
hajuuthoreauputic, It seems that the connection is dead07:18
nickrudcafuego, :)07:18
hajuuI cant even ping07:18
gauthamnickrud, i finished typing07:18
josh_cafuego: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2005-05-27 23:58 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java07:18
thoreauputichajuu: ah, i see07:18
gauthamnickrud, i dont have07:18
DaveyI'm about to just say "Fuck linux", it shouldn't take me 8hrs to find an OS to install, nevermind install it :/07:18
cafuegoDavey: Don't attempt that if you're not an advanced user, though.07:18
gauthamnickrud, but i knw my monitor name07:18
thoreauputichajuu: does it dial?07:18
hajuuyeah and it maintains a connection07:18
Daveycafuego: oh, I'm quite profecient in linux, I'm just lazy ;)07:18
nickrudgautham, give me the manufacturer and exact model07:18
hajuuI can see by the lights on my modem07:18
cafuegoDavey: it's not Linux fault your burner or cd is dumb. it works fine for millions of others.07:18
hajuubut ifconfig shows nothing is being transfered07:19
thoreauputichajuu: but you can't ping anything?07:19
cafuegojosh_: 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java'07:19
hajuuthoreauputic, exactly.07:19
thoreauputichajuu: do you have nameservers in your /etc/resolv.conf file?07:19
josh_cafuego: dpkg: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java not found.07:19
gauthamnickrud, SAMSUNG syncmaster07:19
cafuegojosh_: arrgh. 'ls -l /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java'07:20
gauthamnickrud, thats all i knw07:20
Daveycafuego: sure it is :P07:20
nickrudgautham, you'll need to look at the back07:20
user915Anyone installed the mplayer plugin for FireFox?07:20
hajuuyeah I have two which are like: nameserver <ip>07:20
josh_cafuego: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2826 2005-04-03 10:39 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java07:20
nickrudgautham, syncmaster something07:20
razubuntuforums.org == down?07:20
dr_willisuser915,  im useing it - it seems to work fine for me.07:20
cafuegojosh_: Ok. Tht file isn't known to the package system. Do you have any idea how it got onto your system?07:20
thoreauputichajuu: can you ping IPs ? like say, "ping 216.239.39.9907:21
josh_cafuego: um...what?07:21
user915It's because I'm trying to configure the mplayer plugin but it's giving me this error about c++ not being able to create something.07:21
joeinspiritRecommendations on Ram to Swap size ratio?07:21
bigern|fswebhosti installed webmin and ii wont let me login using my username and password07:21
hajuuI didnt even try.. I just tried to ping google.07:21
cafuegojosh_: Do you know how '/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java' got onto your system?07:21
bigern|fswebhostwhat am i missing07:21
hajuuI'll be back shortly07:21
hajuugonna try that07:21
gauthamnickrud, 793DF07:21
josh_cafuego: no, what is it?07:21
gauthamnickrud, 793DF07:21
nickrudgautham, ok, wait07:21
cafuegojosh_: it's something that shouldn't really be there.07:22
thoreauputichajuu: that's the google IP{ (or one of them) If you can ping IPs and not names like google.com, you have a DNS problem07:22
james__Does using LVM (linux volume management) affect hard drive performance, at all?07:22
josh_cafuego: well beyond installing the smart updates, and two games and Konqueror I haven't installed anything07:22
elricare audigy sound devices supported by Ubuntu? i get Synth devices: NOT ENABLED in my sound config07:22
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wolfmanjakejoeinspirit: double the swap that you have ram07:22
cafuegojosh_: What did it run before you installed Ubuntu?07:22
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josh_cafuego: SuSE 9.207:23
hitchhiker...07:23
cafuegojosh_: Did you rease the disk before reinstalling?07:23
maxy_noobcrimsun, I figured it out, with no little help from you07:23
cafuegoerase even07:23
maxy_noobmy home network lives!!!!07:23
josh_cafuego: yes07:23
maxy_noobwoohooo07:23
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nickrudgautham, do you have a line inside section monitor that starts with HorizSync07:23
cafuegojosh_: Ghhrm.07:23
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gauthamnickrud, just a sec07:23
cafuegojosh_: ok, we'll use a hammer then. 'sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java /etc/alternatives/java'07:24
josh_cafuego: I changed around all the sized for the boot and swap so I had to erase them all and repartition07:24
gauthamnickrud, nope it says only Syncmaster07:24
crimsunmaxy_noob: excellent.07:24
gauthamnickrud, it says identifier:syncmaster07:24
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nickrudgautham, I saw it07:25
joeinspiritQuestion: Is a swap partition 3 times the size of ram really neccessary?07:25
josh_cafuego: ok its back at the prompt07:25
thoreauputicjoeinspirit: not usually07:25
cafuegojosh_: 'java -version'07:25
thoreauputicjoeinspirit: how much RAM do you have?07:25
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joeinspirit2 gig07:25
paulproteus(Heh.)07:25
nickrudgautham, ok, create a new line under DPMS07:25
cafuegojoeinspirit: I'd stick to 1GB swap max under that.07:25
gauthamnickrud, yes tell me pls07:25
josh_cafuego: java version "1.5.0_02"07:26
thoreauputicjoeinspirit: heh- in that case 500MB or so should be more than ample07:26
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nickrud HorizSync 28-7107:26
cafuegojosh_: good.07:26
nickrudgautham, see that? type it on the new line07:26
joeinspiritthoreauputic I was reading that it was good to always have plenty of swap07:26
maxy_noobcrimsun, my guess is that I didn't have the DNS coordinates entered.07:26
josh_cafuego: ok, so then what?07:26
gauthamnickrud, yes i will07:26
cmathesoni'm trying to compile my kernel, but i get this error: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/../../../crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized07:26
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cafuegojosh_: 'cd ~/.mozilla/plugins'07:26
thoreauputicjoeinspirit: well, it depends what you are doing, but certainly a gig should be fine07:27
cafuegoYou don't want to find your system using 2GB of swap...07:27
joeinspiritthoreauputic ok, Just want to make sure I have enought suspend to disk, its a notebook07:27
josh_cafuego: bash: cd: /home/josh/.mozilla/plugins: No such file or directory07:27
thoreauputicjoeinspirit: you have RAM coming out of your ears anyway ;)07:27
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cafuegojosh_: Ah ok, then you'll need 2Gb swap minimum07:27
gauthamnickrud, done with it :)07:27
nickrudgautham, create another new line07:27
josh_cafuego: what?07:28
gauthamnickrud, yes07:28
cafuegojosh_: ls there a .firefox directory in your homedir?07:28
cafuegojosh_: never mind, that was for joeinspirit07:28
thoreauputicjoeinspirit: I think cafuego's remark was for you, not josh_07:28
gauthamnickrud, go on07:28
josh_cafuego: no07:28
joeinspiritk07:28
nickrud VertRefresh 50-16007:28
nickrudgautham, type that07:28
cafuegojoeinspirit: The kernel wants enough space on swap (s2d) to fit ALL your ram.07:28
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cafuegojoeinspirit: Saving 2GB of data to swap and restoring it after resume will take for-bloody-ever though.07:29
josh_cafuego: its under mozilla07:29
gauthamnickrud, done07:29
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cafuegojosh_: Is there a directory called 'plugins' ?07:29
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helioshello07:29
nickrudgautham, now, scroll down till you see section screen07:29
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hitchhikerjosh_<  in ~/.mozilla07:29
josh_cafuego: no07:29
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joeinspiritcafuego ok, ya. I wouldn't suspend to disk if I had much running. it would be hell07:29
tbastenhow do i password protect a folder07:29
Davey|WorkI hate doing this.07:30
jalejohello07:30
jalejomy friends07:30
Davey|Workit will invariably fuck up on me07:30
gauthamnickrud, yes07:30
hitchhikerjosh_<  after installed jre07:30
gauthamnickrud, i see it07:30
josh_cafuego: just firefox07:30
|QuaD-anyone using xen on breezy?07:30
nickrudgautham, you see rows of screen resolutions, right?07:30
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tbastenhow do i password protect a folder07:30
cafuegojosh_: is there a plugins directory in the firefox directory?07:30
jalejoquien habla espaol07:30
gauthamnickrud,  yes07:30
josh_cafuego: no07:30
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cafuegotbasten: You make n encrypted loopback device with a password on it, thenmount it on that folder.07:31
nickrudgautham, how many resolutions to a line?07:31
stuNNedhow do i get rip to mp3 support in soundjuicer?07:31
hajuuok... Still no.. Can't ping IP's.. Cant ping URL's... No GUI program can access the connection...07:31
Davey|Workanyone know how long it might take to flash a drive? How long before I decide it crashed? :)07:31
CybermagellanIf anyone wants free hosting please feel free to visit http://hosting.cybermagellan.com07:31
josh_cafuego: just cache, chrome, extensions, search07:31
jeff25how difficult is it to get wireless working on a laptop PCMCIA card?07:31
helioswould anyone have free time to help me with my home network?07:31
thoreauputicjosh_: your plugins dir should be under .mozilla ( .mozilla/plugins/07:31
gauthamnickrud, i cudnt quite get u07:31
cafuegojosh_: Ok. 'ln -sf /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins'07:31
hitchhikercafuego<  hehe that's too old...07:32
nickrudgautham, what's the hightest and lowest resolutions you see?07:32
hajuuany more ideas? heh07:32
cafuegojosh_: Oh, put 'sudo' in front of that07:32
nickrudgautham, different question :)07:32
liablejeff25: shouldn't be a prob if its supported07:32
josh_cafuego: ok its back to the prompt07:32
gauthamnickrud, there r so many resolutions like 1280*1024 and 640*48007:32
tbastencafuego, how do i do that?07:32
nickrudgautham, good, we're almost done07:33
thoreauputichajuu: try reconfiguring with pppconfig and choosing "dynamic"07:33
cafuegojosh_: Try your web browser for java support07:33
gauthamnickrud, it also shows 800*60007:33
nickrudgood07:33
cafuegotbasten: it's non-trivial.07:33
gauthamnickrud, what next?07:33
gauthamnickrud, :)07:33
hajuuCould it also be my Authentication method? should that be set to PAP?07:33
nickrudnow, press control-x and when it asks you to save, say yes07:33
cafuegotbasten: You're probably better of simply encrypting your secure data with gnupg.07:33
josh_cafuego: says I need java07:33
cafuegojosh_: arrrgggghhh07:33
cafuegojosh_: Which browser are you using?07:34
thoreauputichajuu: hajuu possible - pap should work with most ISPs07:34
josh_cafuego: firefox07:34
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hajuushould I disable defaultroute?07:34
thoreauputichajuu: no I don't think so07:34
hajuummkay07:34
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gauthamnickrud, i said ctrl-x and said Y and pressed enter,it returned to root mode now07:35
josh_cafuego: yeah...I feel the same way07:35
thoreauputichajuu: if you have a normal dialup you should leave most of the defaults alone07:35
gauthamnickrud,  correct?07:35
razCould anyone give me a hand w/ SMEG ?07:35
hajuuwhen it asks me for the ip of my primary nameserver, what should I put in?07:35
nickrudgautham, you're in a root terminal?07:35
thoreauputichajuu: yes, put it in07:35
gauthamnickrud, yes07:35
Yoshimitsui got mplayer installed and the gui starts and it looks like its running fine however when i try to play anything with it it crashes and at startup it gives me this error Failed to open /home/acidwolf< anyone have any ideas what might need tweaking07:35
heliossorry for asking again: is there anyone who has free time to help me with my home network?07:35
nickrudgautham, close it, and open a regular one07:35
thoreauputichajuu: and add the second one as well if you have it07:35
hajuuthoreauputic, I dont know what it is....07:35
gauthamnickrud, ok07:35
tbastencafuego, and how do i encryth with gnupg07:36
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hajuuI dont know what either of them are.. my ISP never told me07:36
gauthamnickrud, done07:36
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josh_cafuego: Ubuntu makes me want to kill it...but SuSE doesn't allow lefthanded people to use their OS it seems, and they also are not compatible with my printer or my audio07:36
cafuegotbasten: 'man gnupg'07:36
nickrudgautham, now type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:36
tbasteni have, not really helpful07:36
thoreauputichajuu: ask your ISP07:36
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mrAny Ubuntu support available here?07:36
thoreauputichajuu: they should be able to tell you your nameservers07:36
nickrudgautham, I want you to paste that to http://pastebin.com, and give me the link so I can look at it.07:36
cafuegojosh_: There is something weird going on your your machine. It has stuff on it that shouldn't be there, as far as I can tell.07:37
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nickrudgautham, ok?07:37
cafuegojosh_: java in fiorefox works fine on my box, which essentally has the same config.07:37
josh_cafuego: you're telling me, Linux seems to make my computer posessed.07:37
gauthamnick07:37
gauthamnickrud, ok07:37
hajuuah yes.. found it07:37
josh_cafuego: but Windows doesn't allow me to use java rooms or IRC07:37
mrHas anyone made https work ?07:38
thoreauputichajuu: you aren't behind a NAT or firewall, are you?07:38
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hajuuI dont.. belive so07:38
josh_-shakes a fist at his ZoneAlarm firewall for blocking everything even things he wants to use-07:38
thoreauputichajuu: you would probably know, if you were :)07:39
hajuuyeah... all ports seem available when I dial through the gui07:39
gauthamnickrud, i pasted it and sent it07:39
nickrudgautham, so, tell me the link ;)07:39
hajuuOne more thing07:39
subxeroI managed to compile the lirc_serial module for LIRC. That's as far as I can get. When I "sudo modprobe lirc_serial" it gives me "Segmentation fault." I don't have a clue what to do now. Could someone please help me?07:40
hajuuI take it that with pppconfig, when I edit my connection, that every time I reopen pppconfig it shows my password as "replace_with_password" to hide my password, or what? coz if it isnt.. then it isnt saving it for some reason07:40
gauthamnickrud, http://pastebin.com/29113207:40
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liablehelios: just ask, someone will help if they can07:41
gauthamnickrud, correct?07:41
thoreauputichajuu: I don't follow07:41
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gauthamnickrud, any problem?07:42
nickrudgautham, I told you one wrong thing: where you put "Options" "VideoRam", we need to remove the "'s around Options :)07:42
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TezkahI managed to mess up my laptop!07:42
nickrudso, close gedit07:42
Tezkahby forgetting to plug it in07:42
Tezkahleaving it07:42
qiqoguys07:42
thoreauputichajuu: possibly you are failing to save the config before exiting pppconfig07:42
Tezkahand not having any power options enabled07:42
qiqohello07:42
hajuuthoreauputic, Every time I save and exit pppconfig, and reopen and  look at a connection ive created, the password box always shows "replace_with_password"... Is that just to hide my password from any potential snoops, or is it not saving my password?07:42
hajuuNo, I definately save it.07:42
gauthamnickrud, what to do?07:42
qiqois mysqladmin compatible with ubuntu?07:42
nickrudsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:43
gauthamnickrud, in root?07:43
thoreauputichajuu: I really don't know - I had no problems with it07:43
nickrudgautham, no, right there in that terminal. Don't use a root terminal unless you absolutely must07:43
gauthamnickrud, ok07:43
heliosthanks, liable. i have two machines running ubuntu under the same workgroup. but when i go to places->network servers, i don't see the other computers. does anyone have any suggestions?07:44
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gauthamnickrud, yep donw07:44
thoreauputichajuu: if pppconfig won't do it for you, try installing gnome-ppp07:44
cdongeswhat can I use to convert avi to mpg and then put them on a dvd with basic menus?07:44
nickrudgautham, now save the file07:44
gauthamnickrud, i shud remove s frm there or what?07:45
gauthamnickrud, u told to remove s from options rite?07:45
Yoshimitsuis it possible that i shouldnt have put mplayer together as root and this is perhaps why mplayer crashes when i try to play something and im not root07:45
nickrudgautham, no, just the quote mark in front of option and after it07:45
nickrudgautham, it should look like Options "VideoRam" 3276807:46
gauthamnickrud,  ok :)07:46
nickrudgautham, while'll were here one more question.07:46
nickrudgautham, how much memory in the machine?07:46
heliosthanks anyway. bye07:46
gauthamnickrud, u mean the whole RAM?07:47
nickrudgautham, yes07:47
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gauthamnickrud, my RAM is 512MB07:47
hajuummkay... now that connection is working07:47
hajuu:D07:47
nickrudok, we're done07:47
vince_my laptop doesn't seem to understand suspend, but in windows hybernation works fine. do I need to do something additional? please, help07:47
gauthamnickrud, thats it?07:47
nickrudsave the file07:47
thoreauputichajuu: all OK then?07:47
gauthamnickrud, saved07:47
hajuuthoreauputic, just testing the speed07:47
nickrudok, now two more steps07:47
Yoshimitsufixed it07:47
Yoshimitsu:D07:47
thoreauputichajuu: OK07:47
gauthamnickrud,  tell me07:48
nickrudafter you log out, press control-alt-backspace. That's it.07:48
jeff25liable: I had to do some unsupported compiling but it works07:48
MadpilotOdd config question: is there a way to get Ubuntu to start w/ NumLock ON, rather than off?07:48
gauthamnickrud, better i restart?07:48
thoreauputichajuu: what made the difference, by the way?07:48
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nickrudgautham, no, no restart needed.07:48
liablejeff25: sweet07:48
gauthamnickrud, i ahve 1 more small question if u cud answer07:48
hajuuthoreauputic, I think it was the nameservers07:48
thoreauputicMadpilot: install numlockx, i think07:48
nickrudgautham, sure07:48
hajuuchanging to static07:48
thoreauputichajuu: right07:49
gauthamnickrud,  i have this java plugin downloaded for firefox ending with .bin,how do i execute it?07:49
nickrudgautham, lol07:49
thoreauputichajuu: speed OK ?07:49
jeff25one thing that pisses me off is that I can't get the gnome-terminal to read /etc/profile when it runs07:49
jeff25or ~/.bash_profile07:49
hajuuDownloading at 4-5k sec... Very nice07:49
hajuuthanks so much07:49
gauthamnickrud, is it so silly?07:49
Madpilotthoreauputic: thnx. found that in Syn. any config needed, or do I just install it?07:49
thoreauputichajuu: cool :)07:49
nickrudgautham, not silly07:50
gauthamnickrud, im ashamed to be a newbie07:50
nickrudneeded07:50
xMaximexmetacity is the wm in gnome right ?07:50
gauthamnickrud, :(07:50
hajuuI wonder why the gui config is so lacking for dialup...07:50
hitchhikermm07:50
thoreauputicMadpilot: I don't know :) I just picked up that bit of info somewhere07:50
nickrudgautham, first, do the logout and ctrl-alt-bksp07:50
hitchhikerkill x07:50
gauthamnickrud, yes i will be here07:50
thoreauputicMadpilot: I think there's something on the wiki about it07:50
jeff25anyone here have kde and gnome on the same system ?07:50
thoreauputicjeff25: yes07:50
Madpilotthoreauputic: OK, will have to play with it, and check the wiki... :)07:50
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jeff25thoreauputic: I already have gnome installed... how would I got about installing kde ?07:51
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hajuuapt-get install kde ?07:51
hajuuhehe07:51
thoreauputicjeff25: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:51
jeff25thoreauputic: ah07:51
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jeff25thoreauputic: that's it?07:51
jeff25thoreauputic: sweet!07:51
thoreauputicjeff25: it's a metapackage that will pull in what you need07:51
jeff25thoreauputic: how do I find a list of meta packages?07:52
som1apt-cache search07:52
thoreauputicjeff25: well, you don't really07:52
jeff25oh07:52
som1but i dunno what mean meta packages.07:52
som1so07:52
som1;(07:52
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thoreauputicjeff25: apt-cache search <keyword>07:52
rg58smahi07:52
rg58smahi07:52
jeff25thoreauputic: are there any other meta packages for WMs you know of?07:52
rg58smahow to  create a shotcut07:53
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thoreauputicjeff25: yes, eg  "xfce4"07:53
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george_well it looks like Intervideo is going to solve the whole legal dvd problem for linux in the US....they say they are going to produce LinDVD which will be legal on linux in the US for about $2907:53
jeff25thoreauputic: and since I now have kde and gnome on the same desktop, what login manager will run ? kdm or gdm ?07:54
liablejeff25: doesnt matter07:54
thoreauputicjeff25: the post-install will ask which you want07:54
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george_now that is all....i am buzzing off07:54
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hajuuif when I do apt-get update it freezes on a particular server, should I just re-comment that server out in my server list and keep going?07:55
jeff25thoreauputic: ahh I see, thanks man07:55
jeff25thoreauputic: which one do you use?07:55
Madpilothe... wonder if "george_" works for Intervideo?07:55
rg58smahow to  create a shotcut???07:55
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thoreauputicjeff25: I use gdm, but either will work07:56
dr_willishmm.. depends on what you mean by shortcut rg58sma07:56
subxeroDoes *anyone* here know anything about LIRC? Anything at all?07:56
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dr_willissubxero,  you mean that Infrared remote thinggie?07:56
dr_willis"THinggie" - how Technical :P07:56
subxero:-) Yes. It's a serious b*tch to install and get working.07:56
hitchhikeruh07:57
som1im trying to install my audio driver (sis7012) and it wants linux source directory07:57
dr_willissubxero,  never messed with it - sorry :P I got a remote for my Audigy2 sound card - but never used it either.07:57
som1where is it?07:57
rg58smafor example to aMule07:57
rg58smaand incoming of amule07:57
dr_willisrg58sma,  gnome calles them a "launcher"  to launch a program07:58
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gauthamnickrud, dude my sy got screwed up07:58
rg58smayes07:58
rg58smathat07:58
thoreauputicsom1: that card is supported by default ( I have one here that works fine)07:58
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gauthamnickrud, genome wudnt start07:58
dr_willisand you can just use 'ln -s' to make soft links to directories from one place to another. Or just add the dir to your "favorites' ocation in the file browser07:58
thoreauputicsom1: you shouldn't need to install anything07:58
gauthamnickrud, i had to delete those lines which we edited07:58
som1yes but i cant get a game works.. it doesnt say any error, it just freezes in the time it loads sound07:58
gauthamnickrud, now it has started07:59
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hajuuwhere is the apt-get sources list again?07:59
subxerosoml: I, too, have an already-working SiS7012 card. If you're having sound problems, I found that switching most programs to use the eSound driver works.07:59
som1/etc/apt/sources.list i think07:59
Aegir`/etc/apt-get/sources.list07:59
thoreauputicsom1: more likely an esd issue07:59
Aegir`/etc/apt most likely07:59
nickrudgautham, I wish I'd had you post the last change you made07:59
som1esd?07:59
gauthamnickrud, :(07:59
thoreauputiceSound07:59
nickrudgautham, yeah08:00
gauthamnickrud, i shud now again edit08:00
gauthamnickrud,08:00
nickrudgautham, we'll just use the one on pastebin, then ask for a doublecheck08:00
gauthamnickrud, ok08:00
gauthamnickrud, pls do it08:00
thoreauputicsom1: some games want to use oss, but need to use esd under ubuntu08:00
gauthamnickrud, u want link?08:00
nickrudgautham, patience, I have it08:00
som1well08:00
som1how can i change it?08:01
hajuuOne more question before I go... within the gui.. when it asks me for my password to run, say, the terminal as root.. I put in my password.. and it works fine.. but within the console.. if I try to login as root or su up to root... and enter the same password.. it doesnt work.. how can I rectify this?08:01
thoreauputicsom1: another way is to use the howto on http://ubuntuguide.org - something like "fixing sound in gnome"08:01
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dr_willishajuu,  thats a ubuntu faq. :P they have loging in as root disbled for securty reasins.08:01
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hajuuaw how gay08:02
dr_willishajuu,  you can get things to the way otehr disrtos work with "sudo passwd"08:02
hajuuhow can I enable it?08:02
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dr_willishajuu,  actually its trivial :P it is more secure in some ways..08:02
crimsunsee the faq (topic)08:02
glickyo08:02
dr_willisfaq covers this in some detail i think08:02
cmathesonany rather common problems w/ compiling kernels on ubuntu (i can't do anything w/ getting some stinking error)..08:02
thoreauputicsom1: or run gnome-sound-properties08:02
dr_willisand yes - i alwyas put it back to normal.08:03
nickrudgautham, http://pastebin.com/29113908:03
rg58smaand incoming of amule08:03
thoreauputicsom1: and play with the options08:03
som1okay08:03
ech0_if i want to remove gimp, ubuntu-desktop is required to be removed too, why is that? i just want to reinstall gimp, its broken. not ubuntu-desktop.08:03
som1is it normal that xmms doesnt play mp3?08:03
gauthamnickrud, i shud edit it using those lines?08:03
nickrudand it would be appreciated that a few others looked.08:03
crimsunsom1: that's not normal08:03
dr_willisrg58sma,  try right click and 'make link'08:03
subxerosoml: XMMS needs to be switched to use the eSound driver if you haven't done so yet.08:03
thoreauputicsom1: set xmms to use the esd output08:03
crimsunech0_: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage that can be safely removed08:03
DaveyCRAP! :(08:03
som1oh, ok08:03
som1thanks08:04
ech0_oh ok, good08:04
Daveythe Flash failed and now my laptop won't even boot to windows :/08:04
som1:))08:04
gauthamnickrud, shall i edit it again?08:04
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dr_willisDavey,  UGH oh!08:04
Daveythanks for your input cafuego08:04
liableDavey: flash bios?08:04
Daveydr_willis: yup, and its a british laptop, can't get parts here in the US :/08:04
holycowallrighty, i'm thikning that google will one day be hailed as one of humanity's greatest inventions08:04
Daveyliable: CD08:04
DaveyI can get the Windows boot menu, but it won't boot08:04
jeff25what's the best audio player for ubuntu08:05
nickrudcrimsun, could you take a quick look at http://pastebin.com/291139, it's an xorg for an i81008:05
holycowappearently i have the very latest atheros chip not supported by the current hal version08:05
Daveyand without a CD drive I have no way to load anything else on it :/08:05
holycowwho would know this shit without google?08:05
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holycow*sheesh*08:05
hajuuJeff25: Same as for every other OS... VLC08:05
hajuuhehe08:05
jeff25Davey: are you trying to install with a CD?08:05
hajuuIt's great08:05
Daveyjeff25: I can't, I now have no CD drive08:05
jeff25Davey: I installed using pxeboot08:05
crimsunnickrud: what're the errors?08:05
nickrudcrimsun, hopefully none08:06
Daveyjeff25: the flash of the CD drives bios or whatever that crap is called failed half way through, the drive is dead08:06
crimsunlooks good for a once-over08:06
nickrudthanks08:06
gauthamnickrud, now what?08:06
hajuu"If you wish to use the root account in more traditional UNIX fashion, you can set the root password by typing sudo passwd root. This will allow you to use su or login as root on the console." -- FAQ.08:06
hajuuWell thats rather simple08:06
hajuuhaha08:06
Daveyjeff25: network install?08:06
jeff25Davey: yeah08:06
jeff25Davey: does your support support network booting?08:06
bigern|fswebhostWHATS A GOOD FREEWARE WEBSERVER INSTEAD OF WEBMIN FOR UBUNTU08:07
jeff25*system support08:07
bigern|fswebhostwhoops08:07
bigern|fswebhoststupid caps08:07
dr_willisbigern|fswebhost,  webmin is not a web server.08:07
Daveyjeff25: I have.. no idea08:07
nate__bigern|fswebhost: apache?08:07
nickrudgautham, get that link I posted, and paste it into a new gedit08:07
jeff25Davey: it will be in the PC bios menu if it does08:07
bigern|fswebhosti meant control panel08:07
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Daveyjeff25: then no08:07
dr_willisi find webmin to be very well done myself.08:07
hitchhikerwebmin = tool for dummies08:07
jeff25Davey: :/08:07
gauthamnickrud, and save it as?08:07
psychonateWhat exactly is the difference between beep-media-player and xmms?08:07
nickrudxorg.new08:07
gauthamnickrud, ok08:07
nate__bigern|fswebhost: use apache and manually configure it, its worth it08:07
crimsunpsychonate: b-m-p uses gtk2; the latter uses gtk108:07
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holycowbigern|fswebhost, webserver? webmin isn't a webserver08:08
jeff25thoreauputic: what WMs do you have installed08:08
nickrudgautham, where'd you save it :)08:08
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psychonatedoesn't sound like anything major08:08
holycowwebmin is an app that runs on apache, apache is the webserver08:08
bigern|fswebhosti know, i meant control panel,08:08
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crimsunpsychonate: perhaps not at first...08:08
thoreauputicjeff25: xfce4, KDE, gnome, fluxbox08:08
dr_willishmm webmin does not run on apache as far as i know.08:08
dr_willisit is sort of its own mini-web server in that respect.08:08
nate__bigern|fswebhost: learn to configure it without webmin, you'll learn more08:08
holycowbigern|fswebhost, control panel fo rwhat?08:08
nickrudgautham, on your desktop?08:08
jeff25thoreauputic: yeah I'm going to install fluxbox right now08:08
hitchhikerfluxbox \o/08:09
thoreauputicjeff25: note that the hoary fluxbox has issues08:09
holycowbigern|fswebhost, gnome and kde come with their own collections of apps that constitute a 'control panel' but ...08:09
gauthamnickrud, where to save?08:09
nickrudgautham, home08:09
bigern|fswebhostim running a ubuntu server here at home for a test and i was lookin for a 'cpanel' type control panel08:09
jeff25thoreauputic: which one did you install08:09
thoreauputicjeff25: it was compiled with the wrong options08:09
holycowbigern|fswebhost, it sounds like you are looking for control panel apps for all the other shit?08:09
gauthamnickrud, done08:09
thoreauputicjeff25: I compiled my own08:09
nickrudgautham, now close gedit08:09
jeff25thoreauputic: apt-build ?08:09
holycowbigern|fswebhost, for which apps/services?08:09
gauthamnickrud, done08:09
thoreauputicjeff25: no08:09
som1root@lirom:/ # cp /etc/sound/esd.conf /etc/esound/esd.conf_backup08:09
som1cp: cannot stat `/etc/sound/esd.conf': No such file or directory08:09
bigern|fswebhostservices08:09
som1is that normal?08:09
thoreauputicjeff25: I used some source I already had08:10
jeff25thoreauputic: just downloaded to /usr/src/ and make; make install ?08:10
nickrudgautham, type ls xorg.new08:10
thoreauputicjeff25: not quite :)08:10
nickrudgautham, do you see it?08:10
bigern|fswebhostive looked all thru the package mngr08:10
som1btw sound worked after i did killall esd :) but really low quality08:10
som1oh its on full volume08:10
Amaranthjeff25: compiling your own kernel isn't exactly simple08:10
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thoreauputicjeff25: you will need xlibs-dev, and an option in ./configure08:10
Amaranthjeff25: make sure you really need to do it08:10
holycowbigern|fswebhost, you aren't reading what i'm writing08:10
jeff25Amaranth: it's not that bad.  I ran gentoo for years08:10
holycowWHATS services?08:10
nickrudgautham, "it" being xorg.new being printed in the terminal08:10
gauthamnickrud, yes i can see xorg.new08:10
nate__bigern|fswebhost: whats wrong with using webmin?08:10
holycowbigern|fswebhost, this isn't windows, in linux all apps are expected to basically stand on their own and as such there is no UNIVERSAL SERVICES control panel08:11
bigern|fswebhostwell, onthis system i just installed it wont log me in08:11
psychonatehmm, I don't think a FLAC plugin is included with beep mp08:11
nickrudgautham, ok, then type   cp xorg.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:11
holycowbigern|fswebhost, if you want a universal gui, try the command line, it works on everythign, everywhere, for all applications08:11
jeff25thoreauputic: hrm... not sure if I've got xlibs-dev installed08:11
holycowbigern|fswebhost, start with what apps you need to control, refer to their manuals, check up on the /etc dir for configuration, and learn to use them08:12
nate__bigern|fswebhost: figure out why its not working.  Do you have apache installed?  is there a default user it creates?08:12
gauthamnickrud, says cannot create regular file,permission denied08:12
nate__bigern|fswebhost: do you need to run it as root?08:12
subxerosoml: I think someone left out an e. Just a guess - try /etc/esound/esd.conf instead of .../sound/...08:12
holycowbigern|fswebhost, there will never be one central admin section FOR EVERYTHING, only the basic things, because it makes no sense08:12
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bigern|fswebhostyeah i know holycow just tring to see if there is anything out there budiumeside vhcsand c08:12
nickrudgautham, my bad sudo cp xorg.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:12
thoreauputicjeff25: if you compile fluxbox, use --disable-xmb in the ./configure08:12
thoreauputicelse you might have font problems and freezes08:13
gauthamnickrud, yep done08:13
holycowbigern|fswebhost, *nod* not that i am aware ofat all, there was a project or two that are supposed to universally understand the various config file schemes ... don't remember the name and i think its a little too ambitious but what do i know08:13
nickrudgautham, ok, log out and ctl-alt-backspace08:13
thoreauputicjeff25: I also sugest using checkinstall rather than make install08:13
thoreauputic*suggest08:13
gauthamnickrud, yes i will do it08:13
ech0_hey, in gnome, how do i change what application opens a certain extension?08:14
jeff25thoreauputic: hrm interesting08:14
jeff25thoreauputic: obviouslly doing it that way there is no uninstall method ?08:14
bigern|fswebhostok, well, ill lok around and see if i can get webmin to work, thanx ya'll :D08:14
thoreauputicjeff25: I used --enable-kde and --enable-gnome as well (it's all in the README or INSTALL file)08:14
thoreauputicjeff25: if you use checkinstall it makes a deb08:15
thoreauputicso it's easy to uninstall08:15
jeff25thoreauputic: ah interesting08:15
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Echelon-HMorning!08:16
thoreauputicjeff25: the important one is --disable-xmb (I had bery slow performance without that, and high CPU use)08:16
thoreauputic*very08:16
Razor-Xneeed.....08:16
Razor-Xsalve....08:16
Razor-X*need08:16
Razor-Xtoo much... derivation08:17
nickrudech0, gnome checks the actual file type, not the extension, and to set it for a file type,08:17
nickrudech0, right click a file of the right type, select properties and select the app in open with08:17
ech0_thanks08:17
nickrudech0, although, the extensions usually are the same as the type :)08:18
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jeff25thoreauputic: sweet thanks... I'm compiling it now08:18
gauthamnickrud, nope dude i think i dont have good luck08:18
gauthamnickrud, it says X-server cudnt start08:18
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jeff25thoreauputic: what did you use as -prefix= ?08:18
gauthamnickrud, i had to del those lines again08:18
LoRzhello has anybody used fetchyahoo?08:19
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thoreauputicjeff25: by default, checkinstall puts everything in /usr/local08:19
gauthamnickrud, thanx for the help,maybe its not solvable in my pc :(08:19
thoreauputicjeff25: so the binary lands in /usr/local/bin08:19
jeff25thoreauputic: right.08:19
nickrudgautham, open /var/log/Xorg.0.log in gedit, and paste it on pastebin.com08:20
jeff25thoreauputic: I was just wondering if you cahnged it from the default08:20
haydenwhen i run videos with totem the video and audio is out of sync, any ideas?08:20
gauthamnickrud, ok ill do it08:20
nickrudgautham, that's where we see the error08:20
thoreauputicjeff25: no need: /usr/local/bin is in my $PATH08:20
thoreauputicand doesn't step on dpkg/apt 's toes :)08:20
jeff25yeah heh08:21
FreezerXHi, I ve installed the Acrobat Reader from a gz file. Although the Acrobat Reader Plugin nppdf.so is in the mozilla plugin folder, pdf documents are downloaded but Firefox simply shows a blank site. Any idea how to fix it?08:21
Echelon-HHow can I know my ver of linux?08:21
jeff25how in the world do I get gnome-terminal to read /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile when it opens?08:22
FreezerXEchelon-H, uname -a08:22
Echelon-Hk08:22
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gauthamnickrud, done heres the link http://pastebin.com/29114808:22
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Echelon-HHow can I know which driver do I need from here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=28498&package_id=20448&release_id=14494908:23
rg58smahi have a problema08:23
thoreauputicjeff25: BTW, if you make a start up script, use ~/.xsession, not .xinitrc (that way the default session in gdm will start fluxbox)08:23
rg58smawith my movies in avi08:23
rg58smai dont have a sound08:23
gauthamnickrud, saw that?08:23
som1only in avi rg58sma?08:24
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rg58smayes08:24
rg58smaon mpg08:24
thoreauputicjeff25: set gnome-terminal as a login shell08:24
rg58smai think08:24
nickrudgautham, according to that, your X server started08:24
rg58smabut in gnome  i have sound08:24
nickrudgautham, ack, that was the good start,08:24
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nickrudgautham, maybe your machine is weird08:25
thoreauputicjeff25: or source /etc/profile from .bashrc08:25
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gauthamnickrud, :(08:26
gauthamnickrud, atleast tell me how to load this stupid java plugin08:26
stuNNeddang, why is soundjuicer only ripping at 1x08:26
nickrudgautham, do you have the bin already08:26
rg58smabut in gnome  i have sound08:26
gauthamnickrud, i have em08:26
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nickrudgautham, paste the filename you have here08:27
psychonatehmm, I downloaded a FLAC plugin for beepmp, but I can't seem to get it to work08:27
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gauthamnickrud, jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin08:27
nickrudgautham, you are in the directory where the jre is?08:28
jeff25thoreauputic: sweet thanks08:28
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thoreauputicjeff25: you're welcome :)08:28
gauthamnickrud, its in my desktop itself08:29
gauthamnickrud, shall i go to terminal?08:29
nickrudgautham, yes08:29
crimsunpsychonate: it hasn't finished being ported yet, so there are still spotty elements08:29
gauthamnickrud, done08:29
nickrudcd Desktop08:29
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nickrudgautham, cd Desktop08:29
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gauthamnickrud, done08:30
gauthami can see that file08:30
glickubuntu has serious bugs08:30
rg58smai dfont sound in my movies08:30
glicki cant run this system any longer08:30
nickrudgautham, I want you to type jre , then, without hitting the spacebar, press tab08:30
rg58smaand I use my tv out in nvidia08:30
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nickrudgautham, see anything?08:31
gauthamnickrud, i typed jre and pressed tab it gives a beep,nothing else08:31
i386anyone using a Apple Studio display CRT?08:31
nickrudgautham, something is wrong with your machine, then08:31
nickrudjre<tab>08:31
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gauthamnickrud, ?08:32
nickrudgautham, that's called tab completion, and it comes standard.08:32
gauthamnickrud, i can see  desktop jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin08:32
tbastenHow do i encrypt a folder so with a password it can only be accessed08:32
nickrudgautham, ls jre*08:32
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gauthamnickrud, i can see that file when i type08:33
nickrudgautham, my bad, it's late :)08:33
rg58smai dfont sound in my movies08:33
rg58smai dfont sound in my movies08:33
rg58smai dfont sound in my movies08:33
rg58smai dfont sound in my movies08:33
nickrudgautham ls jre<tab>08:33
tbastenshut up08:33
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nickrudgautham, is should complete the filename for you08:34
gauthamnickrud, yes when i say that it completes the filenam08:34
gauthamnickrud, yes it does08:34
rg58smai dfont sound in my movies08:34
rg58smahi have a problema08:35
nickrudgautham, ok then type sudo apt-get install java-package && fakeroot make-jpkg jre<tab>08:35
tbastenrg58sma, google.com08:35
thoreauputicrg58sma: we saw the other fifty times, and we are none the wiser08:35
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stuNNedthoreauputic: hi08:35
tbastenHow do i encrypt a folder so with a password it can only be accessed08:35
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thoreauputichi stuNNed08:35
nickrudgautham, from sudo to the end, all one line08:35
glickhey does anyone know why my dns lookup keeps failing08:35
glickresulting in gnome not starting08:35
glicksomething out of the blue keeps screwing with my dns settings08:36
LoRzhelow08:36
LoRzfuckers08:36
tbastenhas anyone had much experience with gpg?08:37
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gauthamnickrud, yes done,this is the out put:Reading package lists... Done08:37
gauthamBuilding dependency tree... Done08:37
gauthamE: Couldn't find package java-package08:37
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gauthamnickrud, saw the output?08:37
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glickyeah i can not use ubuntu too buggy for me08:38
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gauthamnickrud, i dont think i can easily setup even a small thing,such a pity on me08:39
nickrudgautham, yeah, you need to update your sources.list, but if we mess that up, nothing works.08:39
nickrudgautham, and I'm not sure I can walk you through it safely08:39
gauthamnickrud, no problem08:39
gauthamnickrud, any other way out?\08:39
tbastenHas anyone got much experience with gpg?08:39
nickrudgautham, none that I see08:39
kadambirg58sma: edit /etc/esound/esd.conf08:40
gauthamnickrud, no problem dude,u were with me,thanx a lot,ur help is appreciated with gratitude08:40
stuNNedtbasten: a lil bit08:40
tbastenstuNNed, i want to encrypt a folder so that only by a password u can access it08:40
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perrygeoAnyone know how to install Hoary to the hard drive from the Live CD?08:40
gauthamnickrud, ill try to figure it out,since im a newbie,maybe i can try something else,but anyways thnx08:41
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thoreauputicperrygeo: not supported yet08:41
stuNNedtbasten: might want to try something like seahorse i like gpa better though imho08:41
nickrudgautham, luck.08:41
rg58sma[esd] 08:41
rg58smaauto_spawn=008:41
rg58smaspawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 508:41
rg58smaspawn_wait_ms=10008:41
rg58sma# default options are used in spawned and non-spawned mode08:41
rg58smadefault_options=08:41
gauthamnickrud, dude u knw some website that can help me out with my commands08:41
tbasten:S08:41
tbastenspam08:41
kadambi[esd] 08:41
kadambiauto_spawn=008:41
kadambi#spawn_options=08:41
kadambispawn_wait_ms=10008:41
kadambi# default options are used in spawned and non-spawned mode08:41
kadambidefault_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 208:41
perrygeothoreauputic: thanks. I'm impressed with it anyhow ;-)08:42
kadambitry the above08:42
gauthamnickrud, i need to learn basic commands including tar and stuff08:42
rg58smawhat08:42
perrygeothoreauputic: time to download the install CD...08:42
Echelon-Hcan anyone explain me what's WINE?08:42
gauthamnickrud, anywhere i can find these commands? i need to learn a lot of basic commands,editing,copying,viewing,installing etc...08:42
thoreauputickadambi, rg58sma Please don't paste inthe channel: use pastebin.ubuntu.com08:42
nickrudgautham, googe basic linux primer has tons of links08:42
tbastenstuNNed, what is seahorse?08:43
nickrud*google08:43
rg58smaok08:43
stuNNedtbasten: they are frontends to gnupg08:43
kadambisorry08:43
hitchhikergoogle is evil08:43
gauthamnickrud, linux primer?08:43
rg58smai'm sorry08:43
glickubuntu is a nice idea but they have a long way to go08:43
rg58smai change the file??08:43
tbastenstuNNed, ahh, ok. SO it is possible to do what i trying to do08:43
kadambiyes08:43
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stuNNedtbasten: not really sure, haven't tried it08:44
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Enkiduhow do i shut down X and gnome so that only consoles are up?08:44
tbastenstuNNed, lol. Ok. Just trying to stop people looking at my p0rn stash :P08:44
perrygeoEchelon-H: WINE is a windows emulator.. it lets you run most windows applications in linux.08:44
stuNNedtbasten: ok lol08:45
jeff25what do you guys run as your WM08:45
stuNNedjeff25: default metacity08:45
tbastengnome08:45
tbastenyeah Metacity08:45
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Echelon-Hperrygeo, is it good? I mean, what can I possibly do with it?08:46
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tbastenjeff25, i had abit of a try at fluxbox, nice and fast but not my thing08:46
rg58smaand what are they then??08:46
kadambirg58sma: did u get the sound ?08:46
jdubEnkidu: /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:46
jeff25tbasten: yeah I like fluxbox... just seeing what new stuff is out08:46
jeff25gonna try metacity08:47
Enkidujdub, thanks...how would i make a script named like endX that could do that?08:47
rg58smaNO08:47
tbastenjeff25, metacity is good for those who are sorta use to window08:47
perrygeoEchelon-H: Well say you've got a few applications that are only available for windows.08:47
jdubEnkidu: do you notwant gdm to start at all?08:47
hitchhikersomebody would tell you to try fvwm ...08:47
tbastenwindows*08:47
perrygeoEchelon-H: you can run them in linux so you get the best of both worlds08:48
Enkidujdub, no its fine, but i have a slow laptop so if i compile or something then i want it to use as few resources as possible sometimes08:48
kadambirg58sma: with these im able to view movies with sound using mplayer08:48
kadambirg58sma: what's the player ?08:48
tbastenDoes anyone here used or know how to use trannset?08:48
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jeff25I install metacity but it's not in my Sessions list at gdm login manager hrm08:48
Echelon-Hperrygeo, is it also valid for games?08:49
jdubEnkidu: linux is smart enough to do the right thing for you08:49
rg58smano08:49
Enkidujdub ?08:49
rg58smatotem-xine08:49
hitchhikergames... go to xbox08:49
rg58smawhere download mplayer08:49
hitchhikerbest solution08:49
thoreauputicjeff25: metacity is the wm for gnome: it's installed by default08:49
jeff25oh lol08:49
perrygeoEchelon-H: I got Doom95 to work but I haven't tried anything modern. I just use it to run Microsoft Word, Filezilla, Photoshop.08:50
rg58sma  mplayer-nogui 1:1.0-pre7-0.008:50
rg58sma  mplayer-k6 1:1.0-pre7-0.008:50
rg58sma  mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre7-0.008:50
rg58sma  mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre7-0.008:50
rg58sma  mplayer-custom 1:1.0-pre5-0.6ubuntu108:50
idle-How do I stop X and go into console mode? Will I have to go into single user mode init: 1 ?08:50
rg58smawhat is the correct08:50
EnkiduPerrygeo: why not OOo?08:50
radixdoom95!08:50
radixthat still exists?08:50
Enkidu if you have it ;)08:50
thoreauputicrg58sma: you've beebn told about pasting: please don't08:50
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glickwhy is ubuntu breaking my dns ?08:51
glickanyone wanna tell me that?08:51
hitchhiker?08:51
Enkiduidle-: just use ctrl-alt-f108:51
perrygeoEnkidu: Well I still use OOo but just for kicks, it's cool to see it side-by-side with Word in a Linux OS.08:51
glickugh!08:51
idle-Enkidu: it does not _kill_ the gui08:51
glickgod this is drivin me crazy08:51
thoreauputicidle-: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:51
Enkiduidle-: /etc/init.d/gdm stop is what i was just told ;)08:51
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jeff25thoreauputic: I'm looking to try some really colorful rich WMs... I want to try enlightenment but that is also not in my Sessions pulldown in gdm08:52
Enkiduhow do you make a script file to run shell commands?08:52
Echelon-HHow can I check if my Apache is running? (not just type localhost... something with the terminal)08:52
thoreauputicjeff25: yeah, some unverse packages don't have the right files to show in gdm/kdm08:52
jeff25thoreauputic: I thikn I have to put a link /etc/x11/gdm/Sessions or something08:52
idle-thoreauputic: thanks08:53
idle-Enkidu: thanks08:53
thoreauputicjeff25: something like that: i worked it out a while ago but I would have to search a bit08:53
FreezerXWhich user or system file is used to add a program, that isnt install by apt-get, to the PATH08:53
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liableEchelon-H: psaux |grep apache08:53
srbakeryo08:54
dr_willisFreezerX,  the .bashrc or .bash_profile are normaly used to set the path.08:54
haydenwhen i run videos with totem the video and audio is out of sync, any ideas?08:54
srbakercan i burn DVD+R discs with ubuntu, without special software?08:54
dr_willishayden,  i have the same issue wih some video formats it seems08:54
FreezerXdr_willis, and for all users?08:54
thoreauputicjeff25: could be usr/share/xsessions08:54
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dr_willisFreezerX,  either /etc/profile , or.. Hmm perhaps antoehr file.. not sure :P08:54
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thoreauputicjeff25: yup that seems to be the right dir08:55
FreezerXdr_willis, you re right, thanks08:55
glickfor some reason i cant even ping myself08:55
jeff25thoreauputic: yup that worked... thanks again... you sure know  your stuff08:55
Echelon-Hliable, I get all sorts of lines :\08:55
glickbefore it was workin fine08:55
thoreauputicjeff25: :)08:55
glicknow it just stopped workin08:55
glickwhat gives?>08:55
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liableEchelon-H: then its running08:56
jeff25thoreauputic: I've been using fluxbox and gentoo for about 2 years now....08:56
jeff25thoreauputic: finally switched my laptop to ubuntu today so I didn't have to compile for hours and hours08:56
hitchhikerjeff25<  hehe08:56
Echelon-Hliable, mysql shows only one line... is it running?08:56
tbastenok, in seahorse i have created a key, now how do i encrypt a file so that i authenticated via the key i have created?08:56
thoreauputicjeff25: I never tried gentoo - I stopped searching for distros once I discovered Debian: although of course I now use Ubuntu :)08:57
liableEchelon-H: if it shows up in psaux, then yes08:57
shanonDoes anyone know how to horizontally resize the gnome panels? I have a duel head and I only want the panels to be on the first head.08:57
Enkiduwhat config file is XSESSION defined in?08:57
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Echylohmm Echelon-H  finally someone with a similar nickname08:57
Echelon-HEchylo, hee08:57
thoreauputicjeff25: I still have an old P200mmx running Debian Woody though08:57
jeff25thoreauputic: gentoo is nice in that you can customize just about everything, but it gets old after awhile.  I have no desire to compile everything on my laptop because it gets too hot08:57
thoreauputicjeff25: right08:58
hitchhikerp200 mmx .... try freebsd08:58
hitchhikergood08:58
Echelon-Hwhere is mysql in ubuntu?08:58
thoreauputichitchhiker: I might some day :)08:58
stuNNedwhat controls soundjuicer's rip speed or where can i set it?08:58
hitchhikersmall and quick08:58
hitchhikerand fast08:58
Craspfreebsd small08:58
Craspright08:58
Craspit requires as much compiling as gentoo :)08:59
tweakism_jeff25: Gentoo is cool in that 1) feature support in packages is controlled by your own choices, not the package maintainers, resulting in no crippled and no bloated packages, 2) packages are very easy to make, since .ebuilds can usually be translated directly from the INSTALL file in the tarball.08:59
hitchhikerfreebsd is good for old computers08:59
tweakism_jeff25: but, compiling is lame.  GRP exists.  eventually, Gentoo will solve that problem.08:59
tbastenstuNNed, ok i have created a key, now what would i have to do to encrypt a folder?08:59
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hitchhikerxxxxbsd too08:59
Crasphitchhiker: well i don't think you would notice any considerable difference if you run linux or freebsd on a p20009:00
Enkidudoes anyone know where the XSESSION variable is defined?  I thought it was /etc/rc.conf but that file doesnt seem to exist on this type of distro09:00
jeff25tweakism_: right09:00
jeff25tweakism_: I still have gentoo on my main dev box because I like those features.09:00
hitchhikerCrasp<  yes.... but small and clean ( I think)09:00
jeff25tweakism_: I've only used GRP to install apps from the CD09:00
Crasphitchhiker: it's not small09:01
tweakism_jeff25: me too :P  I'm about to go all-ubuntu, I think, though.  apt/deb is a great format, and now that there's someone actually maintaining packages in those formats... along with an excellent desktop and minimal server default install...09:01
hitchhikerjust feeling...09:01
stuNNedtbasten: again, never done it, can't really say09:01
jeff25tweakism_: I've already got 5 WMs installed on my laptop and it took nearly an hour, but with gentoo I'd still be compiling gcc09:01
Crasphitchhiker: the minimum install for freebsd 5 is at least 200mb and for 4 it's at least 12509:01
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hitchhikerI like her port tree09:02
Echelon-Hwhere is mysql in ubuntu?09:02
hitchhikerports09:02
CraspEnkidu: startup scripts can be found in /etc/init.d09:02
Lathiatsrbaker: ping09:02
CraspEnkidu: tho i'm pretty sure no startup script sets any environment variable that is used for a user09:02
hitchhikerpong09:02
hitchhikerpung09:02
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CraspEnkidu: as a matter of fact, that's even impossible ;)09:02
jeff25tweakism_: I like how apt-cache search doesn't take 100% cpu09:03
srbakerLathiat, hey09:03
jeff25tweakism_: unlike emerge in gentoo09:03
srbakerLathiat, so it knows to write the image as an image.09:03
Lathiatsrbaker: yep09:03
srbakerprevious versions wrote the iso to the disc09:03
jeff25tweakism_: and syning the package DB is painless in ubuntu09:03
jeff25*syncing09:03
Lathiatsrbaker: err09:03
Lathiatsrbaker: Well, you can write to an image,  or to your cd burner09:03
EnkiduCrasp, im not sure at all...somewhere there is a file that sets XSESSION and some other stuff, and in gentoo its /etc/rc.conf but im sure i've seen it in ubuntu09:03
Lathiatsrbaker: writing an iso to an image is fairly useless09:03
EnkiduCrasp, its also where you set which loader (xdm, kdm, gdm) you are going to use?09:04
CraspEnkidu: i think it's defined by your loginscripts as a user09:04
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srbakerLathiat, i know. :)09:04
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srbakerLathiat, but that's what it used to do09:05
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tweakism_jeff25: Another reason I'm switching from Gentoo is portage development has slowed.  At one time, I held out hope that issues like that would eventually get fixed, as portage gained new features and coolness every day.  Now, it just kind of seems to be stagnating.09:05
EnkiduCrasp, i think im just getting distros confused...i've been messing with so many recently trying to get something to work :-\09:05
CraspEnkidu: if you asked me i'd just set it in ~/.bash_profile09:05
thoreauputicEnkidu: the file to define your dm is /etc/X11/default-display-manager09:06
Enkiduthoreauputic, cool thanks09:06
jeff25tweakism_: yeah I've noticed that too which is kind of sad09:06
psychonateman, these winamp 2.x skins look really nice with XMMS09:06
jeff25tweakism_: gentoo's downfall is that they created a source only distro pretty much.  They should of designed the system to support both binary and source packages form the get go09:07
tweakism_jeff25: I'm kinda glad Ubuntu came along, really.  I can't think of any other distros I'd want to use, right now.  I hate RPM, I don't want simplistic package-management like Slackware, and I don't want Debian staleness.09:07
jeff25tweakism_: exactly!09:07
jeff25tweakism_: I feel the same09:07
thoreauputicpsychonate: you can use them with beep-media-player as well ( bmp is gtk2 so the menus etc look nicer, and the skin browser has thumbnails)09:07
tweakism_jeff25: Gentoo would probably make an excellent embedded distro, though.09:08
psychonatethoreauputic, yes, I just checked out beep media player, but there is one problem09:08
thoreauputicpsychonate: ?09:08
jeff25tweakism_: no doubt.09:08
psychonatethoreauputic, no built-in FLAC support, and the precompiled plugin isn't working09:09
jeff25tweakism_: I find gentoo as a server OS only (no X11) very easy to maintain09:09
thoreauputicpsychonate: ah, i see09:09
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psychonatethoreauputic, until I can play my FLAC files in bmp, I will use XMMS09:09
tweakism_jeff25: Heh, except when you have to explain to your boss why it takes 7 hours to upgrade to the new Apache and mod_perl :P09:09
thoreauputicpsychonate: well, xmms isn't too shabby either :)09:09
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thoreauputicpsychonate: it has lots of options/plugins too09:10
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jeff25tweakism_: lol09:10
jeff25tweakism_: true09:10
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psychonateyeah, I love XMMS, but bmp looks a tad nicer09:10
psychonateas in aesthetics09:11
thoreauputicyes09:11
tweakism_I *don't* love XMMS.  It annoys me.  But I can't find anything better.  I haven't looked really hard, though.09:11
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thoreauputicamarok is very nice09:11
tweakism_I want good views/sorts, not just a flat playlist.  And help organizing/tagging from the player would be nice.09:11
thoreauputictweakism_: look at amarok : built in tagging09:12
psychonateamarok eh?09:12
thoreauputicand great sorting/ smart playlists09:12
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psychonateIs it tied with KDE?09:12
thoreauputicpsychonate: it's a KDE app though09:12
psychonatepoop09:12
psychonateI hate when they do that heh09:12
thoreauputicworks in gnome too09:12
cowbudwhat is the best program to back up stuff in linux?09:12
psychonateI use XFCE09:12
cowbudor what is the most used09:12
tweakism_psychonate: You realize you don't have to run KDE to run KDE apps, right?09:12
cowbudlets put it htat way09:12
psychonatetweakism_, yeah09:13
thoreauputicpsychonate: works fine in xfce09:13
psychonatebut09:13
Enkiduhow do i get chmod to list the permissions on a file09:13
jeff25psychonate: bmp ?09:13
tweakism_Enkidu: You don't, you get ls to.  ls -l09:13
Enkidutweakism_ ooo thats right, i forgot about that; thanks09:13
thoreauputicEnkidu: you don't. You use ls -l or ls -al09:13
psychonatetweakism_, when I run it from a terminal, I can see that it has to start up a bunch of kde-specific crap, and it generally takes longer09:13
psychonatejeff25, beep media player09:14
tweakism_psychonate: prolly.  I avoid kde-specific apps, too.  but if there's one I really want, I use it.  but haven't had that actually happen for a long while.09:14
psychonateyeah, I really like K3B09:14
Enkiduwhere would i put custom script files? is there a specific folder that doesnt get changed or anything09:14
psychonatethat's about the only kde-specific app I use09:14
jeff25kde seems to be faster than gnome09:14
jeff25psychonate: I'm gonna install it!09:14
psychonatewell, I might give gnome and kde a test trial tomorrow09:14
tweakism_jeff25: and fluxbox is faster than both!  bahaha.09:14
jeff25tweakism_: yeah09:14
psychonatehaven't really used them for a long time09:14
thoreauputicjeff25: yes, the new kde is quite impressive09:14
HappyFoolEnkidu: I use ~/bin09:14
psychonatetweakism_, I used to use fluxbox, but I prefer XFCE4 now09:15
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psychonatelooks nicer imo09:15
psychonateand still runs rather quick09:15
tweakism_jeff25: I used to demand a light-weight WM, but after test installing Ubuntu, I've switched to gnome at home too.09:15
jeff25thoreauputic: gnome-terminal has slow window redraws if you move the window around.  This doesn't happen in KDE09:15
jeff25tweakism_: yup I've been using fluxbox for 2 years09:15
thoreauputicjeff25: gnome-terminal is a bit,,, slow all round. Aterm is quick09:16
EnkiduHappyFool, do i need to add that to the path?09:16
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jeff25tweakism_: I used KDE about 3 years ago until today09:16
jeff25thoreauputic: I love aterm09:16
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jeff25thoreauputic: I have aterm heavily tweaked in fluxbox09:16
thoreauputicjeff25: only problem is for some reason the characters in eg. man pages are not rendered correctly sometimes09:17
thoreauputicutf-8 issue I guess09:17
jeff25thoreauputic: I haven't seen that...09:17
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psychonateI started off on gnome a few years ago09:17
psychonateswitched to fluxbox for a while09:17
psychonatethen to XFCE409:17
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tweakism_XFCE4 is a little prettier than fluxbox.  but, obviously, being pretty is not why I use fluxbox.09:18
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thoreauputicthe Ubuntu xfce4 is very nice (I like rox-filer and have used it for a couple of years)09:18
psychonateyeah, rox is nice09:18
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HappyFoolEnkidu: my path has it already; let me look in /etc/profile...09:18
bigfoothi all. how do i turn convert my Cd-audio tracks into a popular format like MP3?09:18
psychonatethoreauputic, the default icons are pretty nice even09:18
psychonatebigfoot, grip09:18
thoreauputicpsychonate: indeed09:18
psychonategrip > *09:18
tweakism_bigfoot: an encoder like LAME.09:18
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johnnybezakhey guys09:18
HappyFoolEnkidu: looks like I added it in ~/.bashrc : export PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH09:19
thoreauputicpsychonate: and the themes fits well with both kde and gnome apps09:19
bigfootcan "sound juice CD ripper" do anything useful?09:19
psychonategrip is a frontend for cdparanoia/lame09:19
psychonatevery easy to use09:19
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psychonatecan fetch CDDB info to make tags09:19
thoreauputicdefault theme I meant09:19
dr_willisbigfoot,  not that  i noticed. :P i tend to use 'grip' to rip cd's09:19
EnkiduHappyFool: that will add it perminently?09:19
psychonatewell, it's a frontend for pretty much any audio encoder09:19
HappyFoolEnkidu: well, that will set the path every time you start bash09:19
psychonatebigfoot, yeah, grip will not disappoint you09:19
spinifexhello.  I know how to mount my windows partition.  What is the standard way of making this partition always accessible?09:20
HappyFoolEnkidu: it is a permanent change09:20
thoreauputicbigfoot: sound juicer won't do mp3 without gstreamer-lame09:20
HappyFoolEnkidu: i mean, a persistent change ;) you can always change it back09:20
tweakism_spinifex: If you mean automount on boot, put it in /etc/fstab.09:20
thoreauputicor gstreamer0.8-lame - something like that09:20
spinifexthank you, tweakism_09:20
stuNNedbigfoot: you want to rip to mp3 with soundjuicer?09:20
tweakism_spinifex: the strange numbers should be 0 and 0.09:20
haydenim not getting any sound when playing dvds with totem09:21
haydenany1 know y09:21
EnkiduHappyFool, where does it set that path at bootup?09:21
spinifextweak: you mean <dump> and <pass> ?09:21
ilbahrhayden do you have libdvdcss09:21
spinifexwhat should I put for options?09:21
tweakism_spinifex: yeah.09:21
JDahlEnkidu, .bashrc09:21
haydenilbahr, i have libdvdcss209:21
bigfootwell, i just want to rip some cd tracks to a format that a windows user can easily listen to. and it looks like soundjuicer can convert to only 3 formats: wav, flac, and ogg. any of the above 3 readily accessible by a windows user?09:21
tweakism_spinifex: defaults09:22
ilbahrhayden open totem menu and speicfy where the dvd is09:22
stuNNedbigfoot: see http://www.columbia.edu/~jr2075/gstreamer-lame-how-to.html09:22
tweakism_spinifex: You can put anything there you can put after -o w/ mount.  noauto makes it not automount on boot, and defaults is, well, defaults.09:22
thoreauputicEnkidu: the global file is /etc/bash.bashrc09:22
spinifexsay, what is the proc partition?09:22
tweakism_spinifex: man fstab for more info.09:22
bigfooti found out that i already have the  gstreamer lame plugin. so can i convert cd to mp3 now?09:23
tweakism_spinifex: proc is a special filesystem that allows the kernel and modules to communicate w/ userspace through virtual files, usually in /proc09:23
stuNNedbigfoot: follow that above url guide and you can09:23
HappyFoolEnkidu: to change path at bootup is I do not know. If you mean at login, look in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf09:23
tweakism_spinifex: leave it mounted unless you want stuff to break.09:23
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hajuuhey again hehe09:23
EnkiduI dont see antying about PATHs in those files tho09:23
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spinifexheh, alright.  Is there any issue with the order I list these things?09:23
thoreauputicbigfoot: there's a howto on the wiki IIRC - there are a couple of extra steps I think09:23
EnkiduI just want ~/bin to always be in the path?09:23
hajuuJust wondering if someone could help me get codecs running on ubuntu?09:23
tweakism_spinifex: No.09:23
spinifexcool09:23
haydenilbahr, how09:23
hajuuI dont even have the MP3 codec it would seem09:23
HappyFoolEnkidu: so add the line I posted ealier09:23
EnkiduHappyFool, ok09:24
HappyFoolexport PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH09:24
ilbahrhayden am not running linux now but you can do it search the menu i did that and it worked fine09:24
thoreauputichajuu: to play mp3 in music player/rhythmbox, install gstreamer0.8-mad09:24
hajuucan I apt-get that?09:25
thoreauputichajuu: for more info on codecs etc see http://ubuntuguide.org09:25
thoreauputichajuu: and yes, you can apt-get it09:25
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hajuu"apt-get install gstreamer0.8.mad" -- package not found09:26
thoreauputichajuu: set up your repositories in synaptic >> settings ( include universe at least)09:26
wezzer-gstreamer0.8-mad09:26
thoreauputicyes, - not .09:26
hajuuoh09:27
HappyFoolJDahl: up late aren't you ? :-) Seen this ? : http://www.pythonchallenge.com/09:27
bigfootif i'm using skype, is there a way that the person i'm talking to could hear a the music i'm playing on my computer ?09:27
thoreauputichajuu: it's in the universe repo09:27
bigfootif not, i can just place the Cd-audio in a seperate boombox. no problem.09:28
hajuua few servers timedout for me when I did my apt-get09:28
hajuuerr09:28
hajuuapt-get update09:28
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thoreauputichajuu: they might be syncing - try again in a while09:29
thoreauputichajuu: assuming your sources are correct09:29
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hajuuim just using the sources list it came with (with all the commented sources, uncommented,  ofcourse)09:30
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jeff25someone know of an extremely bare bones web browswer (gui)09:31
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hajuuE: Package gstreamer0.8-plugins has no installation candidate09:31
thoreauputichajuu: should be OK then, as long as universe is uncommented. You mightwant to add multiverse09:31
HappyFooljeff25: i take it you're ruling out w3m by the gui requirement ?09:31
spinifexhajuu: read restricted formats faq.  Add the repository they mention09:31
jeff25HappyFool: yeah09:31
dr_willisjeff25,  'dillo' is very very minimal09:32
jeff25dr_willis: ah that's the one09:32
dr_willisjeff25,  or i think 'links -g'09:32
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thoreauputichajuu: that package is in universe too09:32
spinifexlinks isn't gui09:32
jeff25bmp is a sweet media player09:32
spinifexbmp?09:32
dr_willisor was it w3m? one of those is text, but can also do a basic gui with the framebuffer/x09:32
hajuuspinifex, wheres that faq located?09:32
spinifexI like amarok09:32
jeff25spinifex: yeah beep-media-player09:32
JDahlHappyFool, yeah... struggling with a problem, and watching over my son while my wife naps.09:32
thoreauputicdillo is quite nice, and very fast09:32
dr_willislinks, lynx, w3m :P one of those.09:32
spinifexthose are text.  He asked for gui09:33
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thoreauputicdoesn't do frames, javascript etc though09:33
dr_willisspinifex,  ONE of those can do a gui.09:33
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dr_willisi just forget which one :P09:33
spinifexhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:33
spinifexcan do gui?  I dunno, I've just run all of em as text09:34
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dr_willisspinifex,  yea - i used one as a 'framebuffer'  browser with images and so forth.. a long time ago. :P09:34
thoreauputicdr_willis: actually, a compiled links can do gui if given the right configure flags, and w3m can show pictures with a plugin09:34
JDahlHappyFool, that's fun!09:34
dr_willisthoreauputic,  heh - so its 'links' then :P09:35
nervoyouhou09:35
thoreauputicor w3m09:35
nervohello friends09:35
nobilehello09:35
shanonAre the package databases reloaded periodically or do I always have to click on reload ?09:35
HappyFoolJDahl: yeah :-) an excuse for me to unrust my python09:35
spinifexhey, in my fstab, for the <type> variable, my partition is fat32.  Do I write fat32, or something else like vfat?09:36
thoreauputicshanon: reload before installing is advisable09:36
dr_willis'vfat' is for fat3209:36
spinifexokay09:36
HappyFooli could be wrong, but i thought that would be autodetected09:36
shanonthoreauputic: But what about for updates / patches. Do I need to click reload for it to know about them?09:36
spinifexwhat, my fat32 partition?09:36
spinifex@happyfool09:36
thoreauputicshanon: yes, unless you use the update manager, which does it automatically09:37
HappyFooli think so. let me just try here...09:37
HappyFool@spinifex :P09:37
nobile=/09:37
spinifexkonqueror detects it, but clicking on it makes a glass shattering sound unless I've mounted it09:37
hajuulol I found some 13mb codec pack in the FAQ09:38
hajuusounds good to me09:38
shanonthoreauputic: Where do I configure the update manager ?09:38
spinifexyes, restrictedformats is the best faq09:38
spinifexit should be in our /topic09:38
thoreauputicshanon: umm... I'm in fluxbox at the moment so I can't look09:38
HappyFoolhmm. is ubotu a bot ?09:38
thoreauputicmaybe someone else09:38
thoreauputicHappyFool: yes09:38
liableHappyFool: yes09:38
shanonthoreauputic: ok no problem I will poke around09:39
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HappyFoolah. i guess that @ triggered it09:39
spinifex@?09:39
thoreauputicshanon: or type ` sudo update-manager` in a terminal09:39
HappyFoolwell, it msg'ed me out of the blue ;)09:39
thoreauputicshanon: quicker09:40
spinifexwhat did it say?09:40
shanonthoreauputic: Excellent thanks09:40
thoreauputicno worries09:40
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dr_willisaha - its  'links2' that has the minimal gui., :P lol.09:40
som1how can i remove some place from the linux partition and make it swap?09:41
som1without ruining everything09:41
dr_willissom1,  you could just make a swap file.09:41
som1hmm ?09:41
dr_willisor resize the drive with that gtparted.09:41
som1yes i wanna resize it without ruining everything on it09:41
dr_willislinux can use a swap partuon OR a swap file.. or use some of both.09:41
som1how can i make a swap file?09:42
danboidHi! I'm a ubuntu user after a new mobile phone. Any phone experts here or could someone recommend and IRC channel for help?09:42
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Tezkahwww.google.com, danboid09:43
dr_willishttp://enterprise.linux.com/enterprise/05/03/02/2250257.shtml?tid=129&tid=4209:44
dr_willissom1,  google is good :P09:44
som1no its not09:44
som1google wants to take over the world just like microsoft09:44
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dr_willissom1,  so :P09:45
dr_willisdd if=/dev/zero of=/extraswap bs=1M count=51209:45
dr_willismkswap /extraswap09:45
dr_willisswapon -s09:45
danboidwe come to IRC for answers, Google is for product placement :)09:45
dr_willis--- then check ya memory ussage09:45
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dr_willisdanboid,  not any more :P i got that GreaseMonkey add on for Firefox that removes those.09:46
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dr_willisTezkah,  heh - i perfer windowmaker to Afterstep09:46
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htaccesshi i just got a mac ibook i partitoned it into 2 partitons, installed tiger, then tried to install ubuntu on the second patition, im getting yaboot failed issues09:46
Tezkahdr_willis: is windowmaker rooted in NeXTstep?09:46
dr_willisTezkah,  its copying it some how I guess.. never used a NeXt myself.09:46
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HappyFoolmounting an extended partition is a really, really bad idea09:47
dr_willisTezkah,  its just a decently well done window manager i tend to use a lot with VNC.09:47
htaccessthe message was: No Newworld boot partition was found. the yaboot loader .... etc. is this a known issue?09:47
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htaccessHappyFool is that directed to me?09:47
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jeff25I hate websites that have 2343 flash files on them... takes all my cpu up09:48
HappyFoolno09:48
HappyFoolat me ;)09:48
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HappyFoolfor being stupid09:48
som1just remove the flash plugin09:48
som1hmm09:48
dr_willisjeff25,  heh :P Thers a firefox plugin/extension  that can disable them as you want.09:48
jeff25well I need the plugin09:48
spinifexadblock09:48
jeff25dr_willis: I need to get that09:48
dr_willisspinifex,  yea thats it09:48
som1am i supposed to see the swapfile using free ?09:48
jeff25dr_willis: what does GreaseMonkey do?09:48
spinifexjust add a filter to it called *.swf09:48
htaccessis there some special knowledge required to install ubuntu on mac hardware?09:48
spinifexhtaccess: dunno, I don't think so09:49
dr_willisjeff25,  alows MAJOR controll of what sites do. and lets you redo sites with a scripting interface/system09:49
htaccesswhat is yaboot?09:49
dr_willishtaccess,  it installed on my imac dv rather easially09:49
spinifexgreasemonkey lets you add extra javascript and apply it to a website09:49
jeff25dr_willis: I've got that web developer plugin... lets you disable javascript and crap09:49
dr_willisyaboot - the mac equilivent of Lilo/Grub I think.09:49
spinifexyou can pimp out websites that way09:49
som1?09:49
som1am i supposed to see the swapfile using free ?09:49
ms_unniversehi09:49
dr_willisjeff25,  yea  :) handy. i really Like Grease Monkey and adblock.09:50
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Enkiduhow do i get out of a sudo environment09:50
dr_willisEnkidu,  'exit'09:50
spinifexenvironment?09:50
dr_willisperhaps.09:50
spinifexoh, he means sudo -u or -i ?09:50
Enkidudr_willis, exit just logs me out entirely09:50
dr_willissom1,  it should be showing up in free.09:50
som1it doesnt09:50
Enkiduwell i just ran a sudo command...and the next comand was still as root even without sudo09:50
HappyFoolhow did you get into the sudo environment09:50
som1do i have to reboot or?09:50
dr_willissom1,  those commands wont survive a reboot.09:51
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som1right09:51
dr_willisyou can always permently add the swap fule with some editing of the fstab09:51
som1ill just use swap space09:51
htaccessdr_willis, i tells me " No NewWorld boot partition was found. the yaboot loader requires an Apple_Bootstarp partiton at least 819200 bytes in size, using the HFS Macintosh file system" do i need to instll tiger on HFs or something?09:51
infieI lost my ubuntu cd...09:51
infieSo I removed from the repository list my CD09:51
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dr_willishtaccess,  i think they need a little mac partition at the start.. however I dident  have to mess with it at all. not sure what my imac has on it.09:52
dr_willishtaccess,  what kind of mac you useing?09:52
infieI am now trying to install webmin, and am unable to get libnet-ssleay-perl from security.ubuntu.com09:52
dr_willisinfie,  some people eariler were saying some of the source sites were slow/down/09:53
som1how can i use free space to make a swap partition? (instead of ruining the installation)09:53
infieoh.09:53
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dr_willissom1,   resize the existing partions with gparted or qt_parted or similer.09:53
som1alright09:53
dr_willisbut you may want to backup your imporntant stuff09:53
htaccessdr_willis its a ibook g4 and it did have a real small mac partition at the start, then a tiny bit of free space and then the main mac partition09:53
spinifexsay, in kde, how do I get varios programs to open their hyperlinks in firefox instead of konqueror?09:53
spinifex*various09:54
som1thats my point.. i dont wanna ruin the existing installation09:54
dr_willissom1,  thers always risk with doing what you are trying to do. :P09:54
htaccessis there an ubuntu ppc channel?09:54
dr_willissom1,  backup the whole system with Mondo/Mindi or other tool so you can restore it if need be, if its that imporntant.09:54
som1im not gonna back it all up09:54
dr_willisthen dont back it up. :P have fun./09:55
som1why is it so hard to use only the unused space09:55
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infiehrm, do the mirrors also have the stuff on security I wonder..09:55
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dr_willissom1,  its not hard at all.09:55
dr_willisyou could even use space/partition on a different hard drive.09:55
som1too bad i only have one harddrive09:56
som1and the only other partition is ntfs09:56
ice_1963well =)09:56
som1and i cant resize, i have to unmount the filesystem09:56
infieyay, the mirror worked.09:57
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dr_willisi always use a linux live cd, boot it. then use qt_parted or similer to resize/redo  my partitions if needed. safer that way09:57
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som1:(09:57
hitchhiker:) cheers09:57
infieAnyone know a nice GUI connect/disconnect tool for pppoe? I'm exposing the server to others via vncviewer...09:57
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dr_willisresizeing a mounted partition would be... hmm.. risky :P09:57
som1i take risks09:58
spinifexdr_willis: can that be used to chop off a portion of a windows (fat32 or ntfs) partition without screwing anything up?09:58
Seveasdr_willis, impossible even (parted won't let you)09:58
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som1no theres always the problem kernel versions from 2.6.x cant change ntfs filesystems09:58
hitchhikersom1<  ?09:59
Echelon-Hhow can I remove programs?09:59
spinifexI would really like to be able to grab a portion of a windows partition for linux use09:59
spinifexwould help me convert people09:59
Seveasapt-get remove --purge [packagename] 09:59
spinifexbut I hear it's risky, and I don't know how to do it09:59
Echelon-Hwhats purge?09:59
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som1u could move space from windows using some windows program too10:00
hitchhikerkill old backup?10:00
dr_willisi do belive that ive used qt_parted to resize ntfs partions..10:00
dr_willisbut you need to defrag/scandisk the ntfs befor doing so.. and again after doing so. :)10:00
AegirBootItNG is also a good partition resizer. Fits on a single disk10:01
dr_willisand backing up impornting stuff is a very good idea in any case10:01
ms_blad10:01
hitchhikerdr_willis<  nice10:01
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som1my brother already plans on killing me for removing his stuff10:01
dr_willisive used Knoppix live cd, and tht Linux Rescue cd to do the resizeing10:01
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spinifexdr_willis: what happens if you don't defrag?  Does it stop you, or just kill your filesystem?10:01
dr_willisnot sure what the Ubuntu Live Cd has on it.10:01
dr_willisspinifex,  i hear it can hurt it. :P10:01
andaxif I can play an mp3 file and i hear the sound, why don't I hear anything after cat /dev/random > /dev/audio ?10:02
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Seveasandax, becuase you seriously misunderstand the linux audio concept?10:02
ms_blasdf10:02
dr_willis:)10:02
jeff25so when the new ubuntu comes out10:02
Seveasjeff25, october10:02
jeff25all I have to do is apt-get upgrade?10:03
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Seveasyes10:03
jeff25that owns10:03
HappyFooldist-upgrade, i think10:03
dr_williscat /dev/random > /dev/audio  - was like a test AGES ago.. :P10:03
Seveaswell, dist-upgrade10:03
andaxbut it DID work10:03
DaveyDo any mirrors have the DVD ISO? BitTorrent is being mean :/10:03
andax:)10:03
jeff25much better then emerge -u world in gentoo heh10:03
andaxif i remember right10:03
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Seveasandax, linux has evolved...10:03
joeinspiritQuestion: what GUI based program is avalible in unbuntu for handling wireless networking connections? With location profile support etc...10:03
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spinifexjoeinspirit: network-admin10:03
jeff25joeinspirit: kwifimanager10:04
HappyFoolSeveas: i don't suppose you know what this error from apt-get (and aptitude and synaptic) means? "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main python2.4-doc 2.4.1-0  Bad header line [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] "10:04
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andaxSeveas, so how to send some random noise to the audio out on this highly evolved os? ;)10:04
SeveasHappyFool, sounds like a b0rked server...10:04
Q_Continuum_get OUT OF MY HEAD BITCH10:04
dr_willis0_o10:04
Seveasandax, well for starters you should use /dev/dsp10:04
spinifexum, what?10:04
HappyFoolSeveas: hrm. it happens frequently10:04
Seveasandax, but Ubuntu uses ESD, so you cannot use ESD directly10:04
Seveasandax, but Ubuntu uses ESD, so you cannot use /dev/dsp directly10:04
Q_Continuum_sorry....the ex popped back in my head, heh...the dumb bitch won't leave!10:04
Q_Continuum_sorry.  wrong channel >.<10:05
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SeveasQ_Continuum, watch your language in here please...10:05
Echelon-Hbah, why won't it remove mysql package?10:05
nobilelol10:05
spinifexlol, that is a hilarious wrong number10:05
spinifex(@continuum)10:05
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Echelon-Hwhat is the command to delete file?10:06
Seveasrm10:06
andaxrm10:06
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hajuuunlink ?10:07
andaxwhat is the command to send random noise to the audio out on a highly evolved os that uses esd and /dev/dsp doesnt work anymore? :)10:07
Seveasandax, try killall esd && cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  :)10:07
Seveashajuu, you'd better use rm10:08
dr_willismpg123 /dev/urandom10:08
hitchhiker>_<10:08
dr_willis:P10:08
andaxwhoa10:08
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andaxscared the hell outta me10:08
andaxbut worx10:09
andaxthanks10:09
Seveas:)10:09
Echelon-Hbah, it seems that re-installing mysql won't help me.10:09
Echelon-HHow can I completly delete stuff?10:09
Seveasapt-get remove --purge10:09
Seveas:)10:09
hitchhiker:)10:09
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Echelon-Hremove [filename]  --purge?10:10
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HappyFoolno, that's for packages10:10
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HappyFoolapt-get, i mean10:10
andaxEchelon-H: to delete whole directories use rm -rf /dirname , but think before.10:10
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Echelon-HNo, I installed mysql-server, and it's not working now so I want to reinstall10:11
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Echelon-HI did apt-get remove mysql-server and when I reinstall I still got problems10:11
andaxEchelon-H, so apt-get remove mysql-server --purge10:11
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cyphaseoh, hi Echelon-H10:11
cyphaselol10:11
Echelon-Hcyphase, lol10:11
hitchhiker\o\10:12
Echelon-Hcyphase, look at the sql channel10:12
cyphaseyea, i saw it10:12
andaxEchelon-H, telling the problem could possibly lead to the solution so _don't_ tell us the real problem itself, beware ... we might help10:12
Echelon-Hhehe.10:12
Echelon-Hechelon@ubuntu:~$ /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe10:12
Echelon-Hcat: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid: Permission denied10:12
Echelon-Hrm: cannot remove `/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid': Permission denied10:12
Echelon-Hmysqld_safe[10683] : Fatal error: Can't remove the pid file: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid10:12
Echelon-Hmysqld_safe[10685] : Please remove it manually and start /usr/bin/mysqld_safe again10:12
Echelon-Hmysqld_safe[10687] : mysqld daemon not started10:12
Echelon-HX_X10:12
Seveazrofl10:13
cyphaseEchelon-H, go to #mysql10:13
SeveazEchelon-H, you need to run it as root10:13
spinifexuse sudo10:13
Seveaznot as your user...10:13
andaxEchelon-H, use the "sudo /usr/bin/mysqld_safe" command10:13
spinifexbubbye peeps10:13
andaxbut hmm really better visit #mysql10:13
Echelon-Hwait maybe I got it sorted out10:14
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Echelon-Hwoohoo10:15
cyphasegratz Echelon-H10:15
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rixthOfftopic and horrible, but help would still be appreciated.I'm trying to install XP on a 160gb SATA disk, it just locks up I think Ineed to "Press F6 to load drivers" Where cna I get my drivers from? I have a ASUS A7V600 (not SE or X), Ican't find the drivers on their site.10:17
cyphaselater everyone10:18
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REdsi had that mainboard ;p its shit i think10:18
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REdsi had to play with bios settings10:19
REdsi ended up flashing the bios to a newer firmware version rixth10:19
andaxrixth, try installing sp2, that worked for me for a sata disk10:19
rixthAndax, I don't  happen to have a Slipstreamed vesion around. I use Linux so I can't really mkae one eigher.10:19
andaxi can give you one10:20
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Seveazandax, we do not support copyright infringmrnt here10:20
rixthAre you in New Zealand? :)10:20
andaxoh sorry ok10:20
Seveazif you insist on doing so, please do it domewhere else10:20
rixthHey, I DO have a leal version.10:20
rixthJust thinking how I can make a slipstreamed one on Linux.10:21
Seveazrixth, i meant: <andax> i can give you one10:21
rixthMaybe Wine? =/10:21
nihaorefresh rate is low in GDM loging screen. How to change it? after login, it is OK (I modifiy using PREFERENCE utility)10:21
Seveaznihao, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might do the trick10:22
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gigaattackwho use ubuntu here10:22
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HappyFoolheh10:23
Seveazand most of the channel i guess :)10:23
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HappyFoolno, we're all on BBC basic micros10:23
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HappyFoolooh, leet10:23
gigaattackha10:23
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IIIEars__lol IBM 390 really?10:24
thoreauputicheheh10:24
Echelon-Hhow can I access cd?10:25
thoreauputic... cramps things a bit but hey...10:25
Seveaswith nautilus10:25
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Echelon-Hhow can I access a cd in the file manager?10:27
SeveasEchelon-H, places->computer10:27
parabolizeclick computer10:27
Echelon-Him using xfce10:28
Seveasthen you should say that :)10:28
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Seveasmake sure the cd is mounted on go to the mountpoint10:28
Seveasautomountpoint is usually /media/cdrom10:28
Echelon-HSeveas, huh?10:28
REdsll10:29
REdsopen a terminal10:29
Echelon-Hk10:29
Echelon-HI got it10:29
hitchhikerkk10:29
REdsand type mount /media/cdrom10:29
REdscd /media/cdrom, see it that works10:29
IIIEars__Thoreaputic - Have you guys thought about vrating buzz for ubuntu? maybe a donation of old machines about to be recycled to an poor african school? Possibly a Pepsi Challenge against windows or Mac on University campuses? Giving a new Ubuntu equipped laptop or two to the influencers of the tech communitty or potential project donors?10:29
IIIEars__er *creating.10:29
pepsihi10:29
hitchhikerhi10:30
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pepsiIIIEars__ lit me up10:30
Seveasih10:30
thoreauputicIIIEars__: I think you are assuming I'm one of "the guys" (I'm not a dev or a Canonical employee)10:30
IIIEars__Ubuntu is a great name for a qulity distro.10:31
thoreauputicIIIEars__: I'm just a regular dude :)10:31
IIIEars__a few good press releases and you will be seen.10:31
shanonwho hangs out here and answers questions10:31
Echelon-Hdo you know any good editor for php and c(not gedit)?10:31
HappyFooli get the idea ubuntu is already quite seen in the linux world ;)10:31
Seveasshanon, lots of guys..10:31
Tezkahhey Echelon-H ....10:31
TezkahEMACS!10:31
Tezkahahahaha... sorry10:31
Seveasvim!10:31
Echelon-HTezkah, huh?10:31
shanonVim10:31
HappyFoolEchelon-H: you can try emacs. It's the One True Editor.10:32
shanonhahaha10:32
Tezkahyeah10:32
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SeveasHappyFool, nono, that's vim :)10:32
xxenoncan I prevent dhclient to update the system DNS ? (resolv.conf)10:32
Tezkahvim is an abomination10:32
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Echelon-Hwhy are you all laughing :|?10:32
shanonEchelon-H: Tip don't ask about editors10:32
Seveas(please please please let's not reiterate this discussion)10:32
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hitchhikerhehe firefox = next emacs10:32
HappyFooldo not let these vim heretics lead you astray! fear, suffering, vim, these are the paths to the dark side.10:32
cirphei people... curios.. i just installed kubuntu but i hate the start up login screen i prefer the gnome login screen10:32
cirphow do rebuild that?10:32
thoreauputiced! ed is the editor! man ed! ed, man!10:32
hitchhikerworks for *everything*10:32
Tezkahcirp: install ubuntu-desktop ?10:32
Seveascirp, sudo aptitude install gdm10:32
Tezkahit will install gnome too10:33
HappyFoolEchelon-H: there are lots of editors. try a few, and pick one you like10:33
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SeveasTezkah, he wants just the gdm :)10:33
IIIEars__Arrgh! "VIM" No!, No-oo anything but VIM not that!10:33
shanonEchelon-H: I depends on how much effort you want to put into learning and how much you want to use it10:33
hitchhikeroh +vim10:33
hitchhikersorry :)10:33
cirpSeveas : will it overwrite kdm??10:33
jeff25how do I change themes in xfce10:33
IIIEars__hehe10:33
Seveascirp, no10:33
thoreauputicIIIEars__: VIM = Virtually Impossible MAdness ;)10:33
Seveasit will let you choose10:33
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cirpah ok ok10:34
cirpthanks10:34
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TezkahGDM on ubuntu has a creepy drum roll10:34
Seveasemacs: enhanced madness and complete stupidity10:34
HappyFoolIIIEars: i think this is one of shuttleworth's open-source promotion efforts, and i think it's got an african focus (well, south african, at least): http://www.go-opensource.org/10:34
rixthTezkah, I agree. It's really bass-ey too.10:34
shanonI don't know how you can live without vim. First thing I do when I use a shell on a different system is set -o vi10:34
Echelon-Hill go for the vim10:34
SeveasEchelon-H, vim has a very steep learning curve10:35
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Seveasuse vimtutor to climb that hill :)10:35
hitchhikerumm10:35
\shHappyFool: go-opensource.org should focus the african continent not only ZA10:35
shanonEchelon-H: I love vim. But don't use it if you don't want to read a manual and have a cheet sheat handy for the first couple of weeks10:35
jacquesmerde"pico vimtutor"10:35
Seveasbut once you get to know it, ooh boy :)10:35
shanonIndeed10:36
Seveasjacquesmerde, hmm??10:36
Seveasjust vimtutor :)10:36
hitchhikerI will stay the botom of the hill10:36
jacquesmerdeSeveas, but then you have to navigate vimtutor in vim!!!10:36
hitchhiker;)10:36
Seveasjacquesmerde, navigating is the first thing you learn :)10:36
jacquesmerdei run "pico vimtutor" and finish it in two minutes10:36
HappyFool\sh: i am not involved in the project, and do not know its goals10:36
jacquesmerdeSeveas, yeah, i know10:36
Echelon-Hhmmm: sudo apt-get install emacs is not working.10:36
Seveastry emacs2110:37
HappyFoolone does have to start somewhere10:37
hitchhikers/pico/nano/g10:37
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Seveascan you beleive it: version 21 and still stupid ;)10:37
HappyFool:P10:37
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hitchhikerwhy?10:37
shanonI can't believe we scared Echelon-H into emacs10:37
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: actually you aren't running pico either: it's a link to nano on Ubuntu :)10:37
jacquesmerdenano? ooh, aren't WE fancy...10:37
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jacquesmerdethoreauputic, BASTARDS10:37
hitchhikernano nano lol10:37
shanonnano is anoying10:37
HappyFoolthere are other editors which might be more.. ah. visually attractive. scite, eclipse, blah-blah10:37
Seveashmm10:37
jacquesmerdejoe?10:37
jacquesmerdeed?10:37
Seveasif you need a gui: gvim10:38
cirpthanks10:38
shanongvim is pretty good10:38
hitchhikerjoe soxs10:38
jacquesmerdeooh, i have a vim question...any experts?10:38
Seveasshanon, do you use the vim-gnome or vim-gtk package?10:38
linuksoevery time I have to use nano I end up typing several "j"'s at the start to get down to where I want to be :)10:38
HappyFooljacquesmerde: yeah, exit with :q!10:38
hitchhiker:wq!10:39
\shHappyFool: but u r right..and i was wrong...it was another african org which was focusing on africa itself and not only ZA10:39
Seveas:!sudo aptitude remove --purge --really-purge --get-the-godd***-thing-off-my-system emacs2110:39
shanonSeveas: I use standard vim. I only use gvim in windows. My desktop is pretty much just lots of consoles. I am typing this using irssi in a screen session10:39
jacquesmerdemy question is that when i navigate up and down, it goes up/down to the next/previous computational line, rather than visual line (like in a word processor). can i change this behaviour?10:39
thoreauputicfor all you deluded people who fight about vi vs emacs: http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/edistheeditor.txt10:39
Seveasshanon, likewise, but for a project i have to use gvim with client-server bindings10:39
shanonthoreauputic: hahaha10:39
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hajuu_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:40
Echelon-HIsn't there anything Like editplus2 for win?10:40
hajuu_Wtf does that mean?10:40
hitchhikerm$ dos *ed* +110:40
hajuu_"temoprarilly unavailable" ??10:40
hitchhikerc:>ed10:41
linuksothoreauputic: hehe10:41
thoreauputicand for all who doubt the superiority of *nix : http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/dil-unix.gif10:41
Seveashajuu_, make sure you have no other package managers open10:41
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shanonEchelon-H: The problem is that most people who use linux/unix a lot or have a background in it end up using vim or emacs. So that is why you always here about them10:41
hajuu_I have nothign open at all.. I just restarted10:41
Tezkahthe problem is that emacs is so great10:41
Tezkahthat people boast about it10:42
Seveashajuu_, than maybe the update-manager is doing things10:42
hajuu_I have Xchat and a terminal window and a firefox window10:42
Tezkahand then people get jealous and use vi because they are bad bad people10:42
Echelon-HIsn't there anything with colors or stuff :P? It's just comfortable.10:42
SeveasEchelon-H, gedit/nedit/kate10:42
shanonEchelon-H: both emacs and vim will have colours10:42
Seveasscite/eclipse10:42
Seveasvim10:42
Seveas:set colorscheme evening10:42
Echelon-Hgedit doesn't has colors10:43
shanonEchelon-H: but they are powerful editors with a lot of options.10:43
jacquesmerdegedit has great syntax highlighting10:43
Seveasvim too :)10:43
Seveasand i love the %10:43
jacquesmerde:syn on10:43
jacquesmerdethe %?10:43
Seveasfind matching bracket :)10:43
hajuu_how can I find out whats using my apt?10:43
shanonSeveas: True10:43
Echelon-Hjacquesmerde, why don't I see it.10:44
hitchhiker100%10:44
Seveashajuu_, lsof | grep /var/lib/apt/lists10:44
hitchhiker?10:44
Tezkahhttp://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/  <--- one true faith ;)10:44
Echelon-HI don't get any syntax highlighting in gedit.10:44
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jacquesmerdegedit has go to line numbers as well. PLUS it has the one feature i cant figure out how to get on vim. so i mainly stick with gedit (when my computer is so bloated to be infested with gnome)10:44
Seveasjacquesmerde, which feature?10:44
jacquesmerdeEchelon-H, you have to select it. or open a file with the appropriate extension10:44
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Echelon-HI did gedit for a php file.. but nvm I selected it manually.10:45
r3texon the livecd, how do i become root?10:45
jacquesmerdeSeveas, navigating up and down the page, visual line by visual line, rather than literal line by literal line...10:45
Tezkahr3tex: you don't!10:45
Seveasr3tex, sudo -i10:45
SeveasTezkah, yes you can10:45
Seveassee, emacs users are stupid :p10:45
Seveas(ok, /me stops the editor war)10:46
Tezkahroot is bad10:46
Tezkahbad is root!10:46
hajuu_What is bonobo-activation-server/10:46
hajuu_?10:46
jacquesmerdeSeveas, i'm sure vim has that feature somewhere. vim has EVERY feature SOMEwhere.  but noone can tell me how to get it10:46
Seveasjacquesmerde, i don't know it either :)10:46
Tezkahjacquesmerde: its easy, just use !fea^5q!r to enable it10:47
jacquesmerdeSeveas, if i could get that feature, i would use vim and nothing else10:47
jacquesmerdeTezkah, hmm....10:47
Tezkah... kidding10:47
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jacquesmerdewell, you WERE kidding, but i did try just smooshing the keyboard too!10:47
infieI've been using pppoeconf to setup my ADSL connection...10:47
infieHowever, webmin, etc, do not recognise this10:48
jacquesmerdeoh, btw, does anyone understand whats wrong with ubuntu's mounting problems with optical drives? i've read a lot of different stuff on the forums about it, some went over my head...10:48
hajuu_Seveas, gam_serve 7215      hajuu   63r      DIR        3,1    4096     691105 /var/lib/apt/lists/partial10:49
hajuu_Thats what that command returns10:49
hajuu_Does that mean thats whats causing it most likely?10:49
Seveashajuu_, hmmz10:49
Seveasgam_serve should not do that10:50
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Seveasbut that is not the lockfile10:50
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hajuu_gam_serve 7215      hajuu   64r      DIR        3,1    4096     674692 /var/lib/apt/lists10:50
hajuu_Is that?10:50
Seveasno, that's just a directory10:51
Seveastry again10:51
hajuu_yeah it works now10:51
theD3viLWhat i must install for *.wma and *.ogg sound formats?10:51
hajuu_:S10:51
hajuu_go figure10:51
Seveasguess it was update-manager then :)10:51
hajuu_yeah prolly10:51
NicPyou can already play ogg files theD3viL10:51
theD3viLwhat about wma ?10:52
Seveasw32codecs, get them from mplayerhq.hu10:52
thoreauputictheD3viL: w32codecs I guess10:52
IIIEars__w32codec - i think will do it. - haven't tried10:52
darGori download audioconverter to transfer some .ogg files to .mp3 files. but, it requires normalize". i apt-getted normalize, but, still requesting me normalize. someone knows my erroR ?10:52
Echelon-Hbah I am having troubles now mounting a cd10:52
theD3viLthoreauputic, tnx again :) =)10:52
Madpilotblergh... today's U update dumped some FF bookmark thing onto my panel, and I can't seem to get rid of it. I don't even use FF. How do I kill this thing?10:52
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shanonEchelon-H: what is the problem?10:53
Echelon-HMounting /media/cdrom110:53
Echelon-Hmount: No medium found10:53
Echelon-HMount failed10:53
hajuu_I just downloaded that w32codecs in an attempt to get my mp3 to work... But apt-get installed it for me.. and still whenever xmms tries to play a mp3 file, it locks up.10:53
jacquesmerdewhite men can't jump, ubuntu can't (u)mount10:53
Echelon-Hbut I got a disc inside.10:53
jacquesmerdeEchelon-H, is it an optical drive?10:53
ImmortalisQuestion: I installed Ubuntu and then later WinXP. Just when I booted on the WinXP it somehow "overwrite" the boot, so now it only boots on XP. What can I do?10:53
Seveashajuu_, you need to change the xmms config10:53
Echelon-Hit's a cdrom10:53
Seveashajuu_, and ditch xmms, use beep-media-player, it's a gtk2 port of xmms10:53
jacquesmerdeEchelon-H, is it your second cd-rom drive? like a burner or something?10:54
hajuu_change what?10:54
KOTR_LINKDoes Ubuntu Support Nforce Drivers Like Lan Card Etc10:54
Seveashajuu_, open ~/.xmms/config10:54
HappyFoolImmortalis: i think there's something on the wiki about this. hang on a moment...10:54
Seveashajuu_, find the line with output_plugin, it should look like:10:54
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Echelon-Hboth of them are burners, but yeah.10:54
Seveasoutput_plugin=/usr/lib/xmms/Output/libesdout.so10:54
ImmortalisHappyFool: ok10:54
Echelon-Hanyways it worked a moment ago10:54
thoreauputicSeveas: you cabn do it from the xmms ui10:54
Seveasthoreauputic, i had both xmms and beep locking up on mw trying to do that10:55
MadpilotOK, nevermind. the FF thing just vanished again.10:55
Seveass/mw/me10:55
thoreauputichmm10:55
MadpilotI hate it when the OS fiddles around like that...10:55
hajuu_where will apt-get have installed xmms?10:55
HappyFoolImmortalis: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:55
cristiKOTR_LINK - yep I am on one now :)10:55
Seveashajuu_, try: dpkg -L xmms10:55
KOTR_LINKNforce210:55
thoreauputichajuu_: /usr/bin/xmms10:55
ImmortalisHappyFool: thx, I'll take a look10:55
cristiyep10:55
shanonhajuu_: have you set xmms to point to esd ?10:56
thoreauputichajuu_: not that you need to know that...10:56
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KOTR_LINKDo I Need To Dl Drivers Or Are They Installed By Default10:56
MadpilotKOTR_LINK: I've got an NForce2 mobo, and everything went fine w/ Ubuntu install10:56
hajuu_I have no idea what esd is.. nor how to tell it to point to it heh10:56
shanonchange the pluing in the settinng10:56
shanonsettings10:56
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KOTR_LINKMines A FIC Every Thing On Its Nforce10:56
thoreauputicKOTR_LINK: It Depends On WHether You Insist On Capitalising Every Word10:57
_Church_Of_Foamewhats the command to delete files?10:57
Madpilotthoreauputic: :) :)10:57
KOTR_LINKlol old habbit10:57
shanonhajuu_: Options -> preferences -> output plugins -> set to esd10:57
HappyFool_Church_Of_Foame: rm10:57
Echelon-Hhmmm cp seems not to work with cdrom010:57
HappyFool_Church_Of_Foame: or use nautilus10:57
jacquesmerdeEchelon-H, i can't offer you any advice, but if it helps you, i have the same problem with my optical drive. especially trying to eject a cd10:57
IIIEars__Earlier - ADD for Ubuntu kicked in not one to stay focused and always testing bondaries. I Logged on to IRC, Started a music stream with stream tuner, plugged in a DVD to see Mel Gibson "Year of Living Dangerously." Surprised that so many things were going on a weak machine 1.5g 360ram I thought hm.. what would happen if there was a 1st person shooter going too?  - lol - Nothing at at all spectacular it just worked.10:57
_Church_Of_Foameso sudo rm <filename>?10:57
MadpilotKOTR_LINK: My Asus A7N8X is all-Nforce2 as well. no need for extra drivers, I think10:57
HappyFool_Church_Of_Foame: yeah, but be careful what you erase ;)10:58
_Church_Of_Foameok10:58
HappyFoolEchelon-H: what's the error ?10:58
shanonhajuu_: esd -> esound10:58
hajuu_shanon, under Audio I/O Plugins?10:58
Echelon-Homitting directory10:58
shanonhajuu_: yes10:59
hajuu_here goes nothing heh10:59
hajuu_woohoo10:59
hajuu_it works10:59
hajuu_:D10:59
shanonhajuu_: Assuming you haven't change your system to use alsa10:59
HappyFoolEchelon-H: try 'ls -l /media/cdrom0' first to see what's on the cd-rom10:59
shanoncool10:59
_Church_Of_Foamei use this rule of thumb when deleteing stuff from my box:10:59
hajuu_Thanks alot,.... again10:59
hajuu_heh10:59
HappyFoolEchelon-H: it's sounds like there's only a directory in the root of that cd10:59
_Church_Of_Foameif i diden't put it there i an't erasing it ^_^10:59
HappyFoolEchelon-H: doesn't xfce (or whatever you're using) have a file manager? it would make life a lot easier for you11:00
Echelon-HKOTR_LINK Do I Need To Dl Drivers Or Are They Installed By Default11:00
Echelon-HMadpilot KOTR_LINK: I've got an NForce2 mobo, and everyt11:00
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Echelon-Hit has, but I want to learn thropugh the terminal and it's not really working through the file manager11:00
HappyFoolEchelon-H: consider reading a bash howto11:00
hajuu_whats a really beautiful window manager?11:00
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shanonhajuu_: enlightenment11:01
shanonhajuu_: especially e17. but it is in beta11:01
certhei is it possible to run totem on ssh??11:01
hajuu_hmm11:01
MadpilotEchelon-H: that last couple of lines from you got a bit garbled. not sure what you were trying to say?11:01
IIIEars__hajuu - they are all so customisable it really is a feast of choices.11:01
hajuu_can I apt-get that?11:01
Tezkahhajuu_: afterstep is so yummy11:01
Echelon-HMadpilot, nvm11:01
hajuu_Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages11:02
hajuu_  Connection failed11:02
hajuu_Why cant I connect to that?11:02
hajuu_Been unable to for over 6 hours11:02
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liablehajuu_: try it in a browser, maybe the servers down11:02
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hajuu_nope11:03
hajuu_workin11:03
hajuu_apt-update just fails to read it11:04
Echelon-Hhmm weird.11:04
Echelon-Hwhen I copy a specific file it works, but when im trying to use /* it doesn't.11:04
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hajuu_is there a better file explorer than nautilus? I dont like it.11:05
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IIIEars__Hm - poking around X-Chat can't turn on the user list panel.11:06
hajuu_heh I didnt know you could turn it OFF11:07
liablehajuu_: did you manually put that in sources?11:07
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thoreauputicIIIEars__: you might just need to grab/drag it from the right11:07
hajuu_liable: No.. That is the universal package source..11:07
SeveasIIIEars, hit <ctrl> I a few times11:08
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IIIEars__lol - no luck.11:08
SeveasIIIEars__, and it's also somewhere in the options11:08
HappyFoolEchelon-H: try reading this: will introduce how to work with the command-line: http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/chap_03.html11:08
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hajuu_how do I remove an entire directory?11:09
certrm -r [directory] 11:09
robotgeekhajuu_: rm -r <dir>11:10
certwait...11:10
hajuu_what about -d?11:10
hajuu_whats the dif?11:10
hajuu_ah recursive11:10
hajuu_I see11:10
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som1how can i tell a specific program to use esd?11:11
NicPIIIEars__, all you have to do is drag the handle on the left of it to the right11:11
robotgeekhajuu_: :), i was doing a man rm too... i don't use many of the option now!11:11
hajuu_hehe11:11
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certhajuu_ : sudo rm -r <directory>11:12
cert??11:12
hajuu_nah its ok its deleted now11:13
hajuu_I dont need no sudo rubbish hehe11:13
albackerrm -rf11:13
hajuu_Any ideas as to my failed connection to the packages server?11:13
som1port closed?11:13
som1mine is11:13
lewwycan someone here please help me setup my tevion TV tuner under ubuntu?11:14
hajuu_it connects to all the other servers fine11:14
hajuu_on apt-get update11:14
som1maybe the server is down11:14
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hajuu_nah coz if I put the url into my web browser.. works fine.11:14
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lewwycan somebody here please help me get my tv tuner working?11:17
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IIIEars__lewwy - There are some very helpful and experienced people here all all glad to help. - Really would like to hear the answer too. :)11:18
Echelon-Hcan I open a zip file in linux?11:18
HappyFoollewwy: if you ask a specific question, we might be able to help11:18
ArcSineyep11:18
hajuu_Echelon-H, sure.11:19
certunzip <file>11:19
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thoreauputicEchelon-H: sure, use "unzip <filename>11:19
lewwyuhh, ok.  that sorta was the question11:19
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shanonlewwy: You need to be more specific11:19
lewwymy tevion VS-LTV7131 is not working/i don't know how to get it working11:19
lewwyim reading up on a few tutorials atm11:19
ilperdentegood morning - is there a concise source for NFS under Ubuntu?11:19
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lewwyperhaps suggest a good tv tuner util for ubuntu?11:19
ilperdenteI followed the FAQ the NFS-HOWT and the wiki page11:19
ilperdenteI still cannot connect and don't kknow how to debug further11:20
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savio_ciao ragazzi11:21
savio_ghghgh11:21
grexkHas ever failed to boot gdm after adding vga=7** to you menu.lst11:21
grexk*your11:21
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Davey|Ubuntuguess what.... :D11:22
hajuu_Uh... Anyone here use nVidia graphics drivers on their linux install?11:22
som1how can i tell a specific program to use esd? once i used  echo "et.x86" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss but :o11:22
Davey|Ubuntunot I11:22
IIIEars__Yes11:22
hajuu_Which drivers do I use?11:22
Davey|Ubuntuhow do I add the task switcher to my toolbar? :D11:22
hajuu_Linux IA32 ?11:22
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Davey|Ubuntuah, window list :)11:23
Echelon-Hhmm it's not unzippingi t.11:23
IIIEars__Geforce 5200 FX PCI no less - lol11:23
Echelon-H*it11:23
hajuu_hey?11:23
hajuu_I want drivers for my MX 44011:23
som1yes i use nvidia driver11:23
som1but i installed with packages11:23
hajuu_Cause the ones it comes with aren't that good11:23
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som1hajuu_11:23
som1theres a problem with mx44011:24
hajuu_whats that?11:24
grexkdavey sue gconf editor11:24
som1?11:24
hajuu_whats the problem?11:24
grexkuse gconf edito @davet11:24
Davey|Ubuntugrexk, I found it :)11:24
grexkok11:24
som1it doesnt really work with it on most cases11:24
som1my friend made a guide11:24
hajuu_link me up11:24
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hajuu_heh11:24
som1but its in hebrew11:25
som1do11:25
som1 sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx11:25
Echelon-Hsom1, are you Israeli?11:25
IIIEars__som1 - the info included with nvidia drivers is exellent. - Rebuilding the kernel was easy for me actually killing the xserver was hard. - (yep i'm new. - lol)11:25
som1yes11:25
Echelon-Hanyways, my nVIDIA drivers worked just fine.11:25
som1here it didnt11:25
Echelon-Hwww.ubuntuguide.org . look there, it's great.11:25
som1http://www.cs.biu.ac.il/~israels/nvidia-guide/nvidia-howto.v0.11.html :)11:25
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hajuu_meh ill try these drivers11:26
hajuu_give em a go11:26
som1did u get the packages?11:26
hajuu_Prolly better than the standard ones ubuntu comes with11:26
som1well11:26
Echelon-Hthoreauputic, can you help me with the zip ?11:26
som1theres a known problem with mx44011:26
hajuu_som1, heh its 10mb.. and im dialup.. so bear with me :P11:26
IIIEars__som1 - Where are you in the install process? what have you done so far?11:26
som1oh11:26
som1install process ?11:26
Echelon-Hthoreauputic, Im doing unzip filename and it isn't doing anything./11:26
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thoreauputicEchelon-H: umm.. unzip normally works: what errors are you getting?11:27
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IIIEars__for the Nvidia driver paackage?11:27
som1btw, thats not a complete guide there, i need to tell him to add something :D11:27
Echelon-H  inflating: worldofwarcraft.sql.zip.sql11:27
Davey|Ubuntuhmm11:27
som1it works.. played enemy territory now11:27
Echelon-Hand it asks me for some yes no and all sorts of stuff.11:27
grexkHas ever failed to boot gdm after adding vga=7** to your menu.lst11:27
Davey|UbuntuUbuntu uses regular Debian .deb sources, right?11:27
Amaranthno11:27
thoreauputicEchelon-H: odd11:27
lampshadeanyone happen to know about smtp?  I have a question entirely not related to linux really...11:27
Echelon-Hreplace worldofwarcraft.sql.zip.sql? [y] es, [n] o, [A] ll, [N] one, [r] ename: n11:28
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth, no?11:28
Echelon-Hwhat do I need to do here?11:28
ArcSineDavey|Ubuntu: if you want regular .deb repos, ude mepis11:28
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: .debs from Debian or built for Debian may or may not work. They could also break things.11:28
ArcSineuse*11:28
thoreauputicEchelon-H: worldofwarcraft.sql.zip.sql11:28
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thoreauputicdoesn't look like a zip file11:28
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: I see. Darn11:28
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: What are you trying to get?11:28
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: the ubuntu sources don't seem so... big?11:28
IIIEars__Ah - great! :) - Maybe you help me. A user here asked about enemy territory reseting his keyboard. Have you had any problems?11:28
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: Enable universe.11:29
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: Postgresql 8.0, MySQL 4.1, PHP11:29
ivoks:)11:29
Davey|Ubuntuuniverse?11:29
ivoksand multiverse11:29
som1IIIEars_ tell him to change etconfig.cfg and remove the first line - "unbindall"'11:29
ivoksand restricted :)11:29
Davey|Ubuntuhow? :D11:29
Echelon-Hhmm weird.11:29
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: edit /etc/apt/sources.list11:29
Echelon-HI see it as a zip in the file manager11:29
Amaranththe comments tell you what to do11:29
IIIEars__Terriffic - Thank You.11:29
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thoreauputicEchelon-H: type ` file worldofwarcraft.sql.zip.sql11:30
latisany1 who knows a good DC client?11:30
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: Ubuntu doesn't have PHP5, pgsql 8, and I don't think it has MySQL 4.1 either. :/11:30
thoreauputicsee what that says'11:30
Echelon-Hand?11:30
som1IIIEars_ if he has more problems he can go on #etpro (in here, on freenode)11:30
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AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: You can try packages from Debian, as long as they're new (not replacing a library or something) and all of their dependencies are in Ubuntu.11:30
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Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: oh well I can compile from scratch ;)11:30
IIIEars__Sounds good. :)11:30
latisI wand a good Direct Connect client, any1 can tell me one?11:31
thoreauputicEchelon-H: the "file" command tells you what sort of file it is11:31
Amaranthlatis: dcgui?11:31
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lesshaste how do you tell which ones of your gaim accounts are "hidden"?11:31
Echelon-Hworldofwarcraft.sql.zip.sql: ISO-8859 text, with very long lines, with CRLF line terminators11:31
ArcSinelatis: valknut is the best11:31
thoreauputicEchelon-H: evidently not a zip file then11:32
Echelon-Hbut everything else sees it as a 'zip'11:32
Amaranthlesshaste: hidden?11:32
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lampshadeHi Ubuntu PEOPLE!11:33
Echelon-Hthoreauputic, im trying to open it with mysql-admin but I can't.11:33
Davey|Ubuntuuhm, what is the ubuntu-desktop package?11:33
hitchhikerUbuntuers11:33
Davey|UbuntuI'm guessing its bad to remove it11:33
thoreauputicEchelon-H: sorry, I don't know an answer for you11:34
Amaranthit's just a metapackage11:34
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Echelon-Hk11:34
Echelon-Hthx11:34
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: safe to remove11:34
lampshadeDavey|Ubuntu:  I think I've removed that before with no problems11:34
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Davey|Ubuntuisn't it like... the entire desktop system? heh11:34
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: It's just a metapackage, something that depends on other packages to provide a complete environment.11:34
lesshasteAmaranth, yes.. invisible to other people11:34
Davey|Ubuntuhmm11:35
Amaranthlesshaste: If you are for one you are for all, I think.11:35
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WeirdAlHi there.11:35
Amaranthhi11:35
Davey|Ubuntuwhy the heck would installing irssi-snapshot remove it though1?11:35
Echelon-Hhmm, is there any chance a game will work faster on linux than windows11:35
Amaranthwhat else is irssi installing?11:35
lesshasteAmaranth, not for all accounts.  Gaim supports multiple accounts11:35
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: nothing11:35
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Ubuntianhi all, a friend of mine has a wifi-card but there is no driver in ubuntu or .deb for it, but he found an rpm driver for it, if he does "sudo alien package_file.rpm" is it 90% sure that this driver is gonna work?11:35
lewwyomg dr who travels in time!11:36
WeirdAlWhen using ls -1 | xargs <command>, how do I solve problems with spaces and special characters in filenames?11:36
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: I think ubuntu-desktop depends on irssi. Replacing it removes ubuntu-desktop.11:36
IIIEars__Davey | Ubuntu - Imagine a shopping list with bread, eggs, and milk written on it all the things you might need to make a breakfast but not the breakfast itself.11:36
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: No big deal, until you upgrade to breezy.11:36
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ImmortalisQuestion: How do you remove mouse acceleration completely in Ubuntu?11:36
lampshadeEchelon-H:  I've heard some games work much faster, stepmania is said to work much much faster in linux than windows.  (I haven't tried it but my friends tell me this)11:37
grexkUbuntian TRY if it install correctly then it is...11:37
som1i know enemy territory works faster for me11:37
som1but thats because i use less ram in here11:37
grexkI already tried to alienized wine rpms and it works...11:37
IIIEars__I'll d/l the breezy CD thank you. - upgrades are scarey. - going to need a fresh start by then.11:37
mpqso why shouldn't we use breezy yet?11:38
WeirdAlIs there a simple command that will add an escaping \ in front of every space or bracket or whatever in a filename so that I can pipe the output of ls through it?11:38
ivoksDON'T USE BREEZY!11:38
mpqwhy not?11:38
Echelon-Hhmm, why can't i find enemy territory in apt-cache search?11:38
lewwyits too windy :P11:38
ivoksbecause 75% of it is broken11:38
mpqTHAT broken?11:38
ivoksTHAT broken11:38
mpqhow does ANYONE use it yet?11:38
som1echelon-h, enemy territory is a game ?11:39
ivokswhole libc and libc++ is broken11:39
Echelon-Hsom1 yes11:39
lewwyerr11:39
som1it doesnt need anything special for ubuntu11:39
ivoksmpq: they don't do upgrades :)11:39
lewwyif breezy is broken11:39
som1works on all linux versions11:39
lewwythen why is it out11:39
ivokslewwy: it isn't out :)11:39
ivoksit will be in october11:39
Echelon-Hk11:39
lewwywhats gonna be so great about it11:39
ivokslewwy: breezy get's updates every hour or so...11:39
WeirdAlWill it have esd? It'll be a step in the right direction if they take out esd.11:40
som1echelon-h u wanna try playing enemy territory?11:40
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IIIEars__lewwy - It's something they call a colony release. not sure what that means but some few that don't mind agonizong days of tweaking have made Btreezy work.11:40
mpqso why does esd suck again?11:40
WeirdAlBecause it's laggy.11:40
som1everything isnt set to work with esd, mpq11:40
som1because11:40
WeirdAlMainly.11:40
mpqI know it does11:40
mpqI just want to know why11:40
ivoksesd is pice of crap11:40
mpqI know esd sucks11:40
ivoksbig latency11:41
Echelon-Hsom1, yes11:41
mpqI'm wondering why11:41
Ubuntiangrexk, well it's for a friend i'm trying to convert, if it was for me, yes i would just try11:41
som1echelon-h do u want a direct link or their website?11:41
WeirdAlWell if I knew that I'd fix it.11:41
WeirdAlAs would anyone else.11:41
grexkOK then....11:41
ivoksit's design is bad11:41
Ubuntiangrexk, but if i can tell him, yes, 90% sure it's gonna work...11:41
ivoksthere are replacments11:41
ivokslike polypaudio11:41
mpqI use alsa11:42
mpqI think11:42
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WeirdAlMost people do.11:42
mpqheh11:42
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: what was the menu editor you told me about?11:42
AmaranthIt's called knowing how to symlink, rebuild, and patch things.11:42
ivoksmpq: esd uses esd too :)11:42
IIIEars__esd is probably okay. it's just that some developers forgot about it in writing their apps.11:42
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ivoksmpq: esd uses alsa too :)11:42
Echelon-HI am downloading already, thx11:42
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/11:42
WeirdAlwtf11:42
WeirdAlesd is a wrapper around alsa?11:42
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: Use the installsmeg script11:42
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: can I get it with apt-get?11:42
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ivoksWeirdAl: esd is sound server11:42
som1echelon-h ok, if u want me to show u how the game works pm me sometime ;)11:42
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: No, it's not in hoary.11:43
WeirdAlYeah so is OSS11:43
ivoksWeirdAl: alsa is driver for soundcard11:43
WeirdAlWhy is ESD the default?11:43
ivoksWeirdAl: no... OS is driver11:43
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: I'm getting it into breezy once I finish 0.711:43
ivoksoss11:43
WeirdAloh isi t?11:43
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: there is a hoary deb... can I use that?11:43
WeirdAlk11:43
mpqbecause esd sucks?11:43
ivoksdamn, typos :)11:43
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: The installsmeg script gets all the right dependencies and such. Use it.11:43
som1how can i make some program work with esd?11:43
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: It uses debs, so no worries there.11:43
IIIEars__esd allows apps to share the sound card simutaneously no?11:43
Echelon-Hsom1, I know the game, played under windows once11:43
som1oh, ok11:43
AmaranthIIIEars: Yes, that's one feature.11:44
WeirdAlsom1, don't even try. If you turn esd off it'll use whatever.11:44
som1what was ur nick?11:44
thoreauputicIIIEars__: *supposedly*11:44
AmaranthIIIEars: It was meant to allow remote X sessions to actually get sound.11:44
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Davey|Ubuntuok, how do I run it? :)11:44
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: Applications->System Tools->Smeg Menu Editor11:44
som1?11:44
som1turn it off?11:44
WeirdAlYeah.11:44
som1ok, trying11:44
IIIEars__Amaranth - interesting. - so i can use esd to pipe sound to another device? - cool.11:45
WeirdAlkillall -KILL esd11:45
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ivoksIIIEars__: you can make alsa share the soundcard :)11:45
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: is there a reason why new items added (by applications) don't have their icons, but smeg can see them?!11:45
WeirdAlYou can also go system > preferences > sound to stop it starting up.11:45
som111:45 /dev/dsp: Input/output error11:45
som111:45 Could not mmap /dev/dsp11:45
d00d92so whats the best way to complete and ultimately disable ipv6 in any way shape or form. my router (actiontec junk) doesn't play well with ipv6 so dns gets all messed.. i have v6 disabled in modprobe.d but that doesn't seem to completely do the job, any suggestions?11:45
WeirdAlYeah, now make your app use something like alsa.11:45
WeirdAlEverybody wins \o/11:45
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: Smeg is smarter than gnome-menus. It knows how to get KDE icons. Also, sometimes you have to kill gnome-panel for it to get icons.11:45
som1dont i need esd?11:46
Davey|UbuntuAmaranth: bleh11:46
WeirdAlNo one needs esd11:46
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som1cant i be special?11:46
som1it doesnt work when i turn off esd11:46
som1ill try something11:46
WeirdAlIf by special you mean retarded :-)11:46
ivokssom1: what doesnt' work?11:46
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som1it tries to mmap /dev/dsp11:46
WeirdAlAnd by retarded I mean laggy11:46
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: gnome-menus abuses gamin and fails from time to time. It sucks, but I think they're working on it.11:46
ivokssom1: what app?11:46
som1that doesnt work11:46
som1ivoks - enemy territory11:46
ivokssom1: you have to stop esd for that11:47
WeirdAlsom1, have you got something else open that's using sound?11:47
Amaranthsom1: System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector11:47
ivoksAmaranth: lol11:47
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grexk<Amaranth>: can i ask sumthing11:47
ivoksAmaranth: that will not help him :)11:47
som1WeirdAl - no11:47
Amaranthsom1: Go in there and change Default sink to alsa or oss.11:47
som1ivoks - i did killall esd11:47
Amaranthivoks: ?11:47
FreezerXAlthough I ve set HISTCONTROL=ignoredups in .bashrc I still have dubble entries in the history!11:47
som1and thats something i can change.11:47
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ivoksAmaranth: this game isn't compiled with gstreamer :)11:48
Amaranthivoks: oh :P11:48
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Altkehi.  how do i get a list of all available drives i can mount (i.e. hda1, hdb3, etc) ?11:48
WeirdAlsudo fdisk -l11:48
ivokssom1: lsof /dev/dsp will tell you what's using you soundcard11:48
IIIEars__Altke - fdisk -l11:48
lesshasteis there a rough ETA for Breezy Badger? I.e.11:48
lewwyargh11:48
lesshasteJune or December?11:48
Altkethanks ^_^11:48
lewwymythTV wont work with my tv tuner11:49
WeirdAloctober11:49
som1ivoks, it doesnt return anything11:49
ivoksman...11:49
ivoksthere isn't ETA11:49
som1am i supposed to use alsa?11:49
lesshasteWeirdAl, was that for me?11:49
Amaranthlesshaste: 5.1011:49
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lesshasteivoks, was that for me?11:49
WeirdAlYeah I was regurgitating what someone said earlier though11:49
lesshasteAmaranth, thx11:49
ivokslesshaste: yes :)11:49
Amaranthlesshaste: October 2005, iow11:49
lesshasteivoks, thx11:49
lesshasteAmaranth, 10/05 :)11:49
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ivoksubuntu comes out every 6 months11:49
_4strOohaio11:49
jeff25transparency on kde is slow :/11:50
Amaranthlesshaste: 5.10 is the version number, which is based on the year and month of release11:50
lesshasteivoks, and the last one was April?11:50
WeirdAlI get a holiday on 10/05!11:50
ivokslesshaste: yes11:50
WeirdAl10/05/0511:50
IIIEars__Breezy Badger will be released in September?11:50
AmaranthIf Ubuntu is still around in the year 3000 they'll be in trouble11:50
lesshasteivoks, ah ok.11:50
ivoksomg11:50
ivoksOCTOBER!11:50
mpq"Breezy Badger"?11:50
lesshasteIIIEars, there is no "will be". I am asking about rough ideas11:50
mpqwasn't there going to be a grumpy groundhog or something?11:50
WeirdAlwarty warthog?11:51
lesshastempq, maybe after the badger11:51
Amaranthmpq: That's something else now.11:51
mpqoh11:51
AmaranthNo, no release will ever be called grumpy groundhog.11:51
mpqso I don't really follow it11:51
WeirdAlDamn, they really know how to name their releases.11:51
IIIEars__Satisfied with the when it's ready it will be released philosophy.11:51
Altkeone more thing.  when i start ubuntu, how do i skip loading the graphical login and just console only?11:51
som1lsof /dev/dsp doesnt reply anything11:51
WeirdAlSuch flair and finesse.11:51
som1with*11:51
Altkeconsole/terminal11:52
AmaranthAltke: Do you ever want X and all that?11:52
AmaranthAltke: If not, install with the 'server' option.11:52
Altkeyeah, but just this one time11:52
lesshasteIIIEars, I'm not :) I never liked that as it is clearly disengenuous. For example, one week before release the developers know they are near release. Why not tell you then11:52
latismy valknut cant get any userlists, I have filled my IP in as active and have 0.0.0.0 as Listen IP11:52
ivokssom1: that's one stoopid game :)11:52
Altkeno button to hold down ?11:52
pepsidoes x work in breezy yet?11:52
latisthey just stay as idle in my queue11:52
latiswhat can be wrong?11:52
som1well11:52
Altkedats ok^_^  i'll work around it11:52
som1it seems no one else had a problem on ubuntu11:53
lesshaste how do you get kdm to log you in without asking for a password?11:53
ivokssom1: try starting game now11:53
som1i did11:53
mpqsomething on my computer stopped working right11:53
AmaranthAltke: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=174272&postcount=211:53
Amaranthack, he left11:53
grexk<altke> why not try to experiment with the xconf file....11:53
mpqI'm on a laptop and it used to automatically lock the screen when I closed it11:53
mpqnow it doesn't11:54
mpqhow do I get it to do that again?11:54
som1lesshaste /etc/init.d/?dm stop11:54
Amaranthmpq: Did it stop when you upgraded to hoary?11:54
mpqI'm not sure11:54
IIIEars__Never swim after an hour after eating, walk under a ladder, run with scissors or install beta software?11:54
mpqI don't think so11:54
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mpqI think it stopped after11:54
Amaranthmpq: You are on hoary, right?11:54
som1beta software isnt that bad11:55
mpqyeah11:55
Amaranthafter what?11:55
lesshastesom1, really? Don't I need to edit kdmrc or something?11:55
grexklesshate edit /etc/gdm gdm conf file11:55
mpqit stopped sometime after I upgraded to hoary11:55
som1believe the smart people11:55
grexkor kdm conf file11:55
som1not me11:55
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zubuntuhi folks :) daddy zubuntu's here :)11:56
HappyFoollesshaste: gnome ubuntu has a setting for 'automatic login' under System -> Administration -> Login screen setup; perhaps Kubuntu has something similar ?11:56
WeirdAlhello daddy11:57
lesshastewhy do people here not use your nick! :)11:57
lesshasteHappyFool, thx11:57
WeirdAlCan you tell me how to pipe ls -1 into something so that it adds a \ in front of spaces and special characters in each filename?11:57
WeirdAlOr so that it adds quotation marks around the whole filename.11:57
grexkdoes anyone know how to enable different gui login in x(alt-8-10...), cause in xfree86 u can do that....help me pls11:57
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zubuntuweiredAl, why the hell have you to do that? :)11:58
WeirdAlBecause xargs throws a tantrum with spaces in the filenames.11:58
zubuntuaha..11:58
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som1what needs to be changed in a game so it uses esd or oss?11:58
yccheokwat is the equivalent command for ipconfig in linux??11:59
zubuntudon't know actually11:59
HappyFoolif you use find instead of ls, you can get it to put nulls ('\0') between the filenames11:59
lesshasteyccheok, ifconfig11:59
som1yccheok ifconfig11:59
grexkifconfig11:59
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lesshasteWeirdAl, a very good question.. try #bash as well11:59
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zubuntuI'll always wonder why should a natural man use such stuff12:00
yccheokhow i can use that command to check my default gateway, default dns??12:00
WeirdAlIs #bash on this server? <tries>12:00
WeirdAlyay12:00
HappyFoolWeirdAl: try this, e.g., find . -maxdepth 1 -print0|xargs -0n 1 echo12:00
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HappyFoolthe -print0 and -0 arguments tell find/xargs to use a null separator convention12:01
zubuntuisn't there any graphical piece of software to use instead of these command lines?12:01
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zubuntureally?12:01
michel_vyo12:01
lesshastezubuntu, what do you mean?12:01
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zubuntumichel_v, the guy behind cafelog? b2?12:01
geargolemwhat does macros in open office do?12:01
som1what do i need to change in a game so it uses esd or something that should work in here?12:01
WeirdAlHappyFool, that just listed files12:02
michel_vin Hoary, is there a more recent xserver-xorg package that actually includes libpcidata.a?12:02
michel_vzubuntu: the one12:02
som1in here=ubuntu12:02
WeirdAlI'm tryina do stuff with directories :-)12:02
HappyFoolWeirdAl: indeed. it was an example12:02
zubuntulesshaste, i mean i think ubuntu is a desktop distro and by fact should be accessible12:02
WeirdAlI'll ask in #bash12:02
zubuntumichel_v, enchante mon gars. I liked the job :)12:02
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HappyFoolread the find and xargs man / info pages12:02
michel_vzubuntu: thanks :p12:02
lesshastezubuntu, you mean have pictures for all of bash? :)12:03
zubuntumichel_v, it's sincere, thanks :)12:03
Echelon-HI am having a problem with mysql-admin12:03
zubuntulesshaste :) i'm a science computer ingineer :)12:03
Echelon-Hthe last location I tried to backup was from a cdrom, and now when I'm running it, it will always crush because it can't find the cdrom12:04
Echelon-Hhow can I change that / ignore bugs or something?12:04
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zubuntulesshaste, i meant for a distro like ubuntu, stuff should be intuitive12:04
HappyFoolEchelon-H: try #mysql12:04
Echelon-HI even tried to reinstall but it still saves the location so it doesn't really helps12:04
som1?12:04
Echelon-HHappyFool, there's no one really there.12:04
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som1what does a program need to use esd instead of whatever it uses?12:04
lesshastezubuntu, which stuff?12:04
SolatisEchelon-H: not even on efnet or ircnet ?12:04
lesshastezubuntu, doing "ls -l|xargs" ?12:05
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zubuntucommand line, dark screen and such --i'm talking about those folk that don't know much about un OS, simple users. knowing that ubuntu is after all a desktop distro12:06
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zubuntulesshaste, yes "ls -l|xarg". you and I know what it does mean but not the average "ubuntu" user12:06
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som1so what ur saying12:08
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klaas_hi all, i've got a problem with opening .wmv files, i can see them, but the sound is fucked up12:08
som1that a graphical operation system is easier?12:08
zubuntuanyway, I was suggesting only to make ubuntu more accessible. I didn't meant to stop using the command line :)12:08
Echelon-Hi cant send to channel there12:08
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zubuntusom1, yes with a mouse and buttons instead of learning commands. It's the basivcs of accessibility and usability12:09
Echelon-Hanyways, how can i COMPLETLY remove everything in mysql-admin? for some reason even with purge after I reinstall it keeps the cache12:09
som1i always say that to whoever tries to make a distro12:09
som1its not a problem making it easier :)12:09
zubuntumichel_v, are you under ubuntu?12:09
som1tries=already has12:09
AmaranthDavey|Ubuntu: If you want to see why the GNOME menu fails to update or get icons at random times see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16019412:09
zubuntusom1, we're on the same line :)12:10
HappyFoolEchelon-H: try     locate 'mysql*'      perhaps, or scratch around in /var  for data12:10
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som1ok, i wont say funny stuff.12:10
som1zubuntu - u/we/us can do that ourselves too..12:10
som1ubuntu is trying to be more accessible12:11
som1its great ;)12:11
zubuntusure12:11
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Echelon-H.'12:11
zubuntuI believe in such a project! my pseudo is ubuntu a mixture of zulu and ubuntu ;)12:11
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som1echelon-h where are u from?12:11
zubuntuchina, maybe?12:12
som1no hes from israel12:12
som1im from israel too12:12
som1its a small country12:12
lesshastezubuntu, you would have to come up with specific examples of usefull GUI tools12:12
zubuntuwith walls allaround :)12:12
som1true :D12:12
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geargolemwhat is macros for?12:13
michel_vzubuntu: not at the moment. I have little to no idea how to set up a dialup connection in ubuntu out of graphical stuff12:13
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som1oo.. i wanna make a gui os12:13
HappyFoolgeargolem: they are usually a tool for automating common tasks12:13
michel_vzubuntu: and since the xserver-xorg package shipped with Hoary's install CD is f***ed up, I can't start X12:13
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HappyFoolmichel_v: tried pppconfig12:14
ugennwhat's a good genesis emulator?12:14
zubuntulesshaste, I didn't meant for a specifical problem but I was talking about the general aim of ubuntu ansd I suggested to develop stuff to give the average user a chance to use this nice OS12:14
geargolemwhat about the one in openoffice?12:14
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HappyFoolgeargolem: i imagine it's for the same thing12:14
lesshastezubuntu, see my previous comment :)12:14
geargolemHappyFool thank you12:14
zubuntumichel_v, ailleuh!12:14
HappyFoolmichel_v: xserver-xorg works fine here12:14
Echelon-Hsom1, israel12:14
som1if i do have ideas of useful gui tools.. what do i do with that?12:14
HappyFoolmichel_v: what problem are you having?12:15
som1i know where in israel? :)12:15
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michel_vHappyFool: I'll try that. I reckon having used that ages ago12:15
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rimmerhi12:15
rimmerI need help12:15
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som1ask12:15
zubuntumichel_v, is X not starting after G/XDM ?12:15
michel_vHappyFool: Xorg's binary always loads pcidata. except xserver-xorg as shipped on the CD doesn't provide libpcidata.a12:15
RiMMERhow can I install xmms?12:15
zubuntuhi rimmer12:15
RiMMERI'm newbie12:15
som1rimmer - apt-get install xmms12:16
HiddenWolfrimmer, why of all names that nick? :P12:16
HappyFoolmichel_v: hm12:16
zubunturimmer, wer'er all newbies:)12:16
RiMMERrimmer@rimmer:~$ apt-get install xmms12:16
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RiMMERE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)12:16
RiMMERE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?12:16
som1sudo apt-get install xmms12:16
RiMMERrimmer@rimmer:~$ sudo apt-get install xmms12:17
RiMMERReading package lists... Done12:17
RiMMERBuilding dependency tree... Done12:17
RiMMERPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:17
RiMMERThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:17
RiMMERis only available from another source12:17
RiMMERE: Package xmms has no installation candidate12:17
RiMMER:(12:17
theD3viLWhere in xorg.conf set no acceleration for mouse??12:17
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Davey|Ubuntuhow does one tell what version apt-get install would install?12:17
HappyFoolmichel_v: i have it here: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a12:17
RiMMERwere's the problem12:17
som1rimmer did u set apt to use online resources?12:17
som1or something like that12:17
RiMMERno, I don't know how12:17
RiMMERbut maybe if you help me out I will be able to do it:)12:18
som1edit /etc/apt/sources.list12:18
thoreauputicRiMMER: PLEASE don't paste in the channel!12:18
HappyFoolmichel_v: and it's a part of the xserver-xorg package12:18
RiMMERok sorry12:18
zubuntumichel_v, maybe a fond problem, you know...12:18
michel_vHappyFool: I don't. that's the problem12:18
zubuntusom1, rimmer can use the menu! why a command line :)12:18
RiMMERoh, btw, what's the root password? I have just installed ubuntu and I wasn't asked for super user password12:18
som1he can do alot of things12:18
zubuntunothing12:18
som1what i dont like is using my mouse ;)12:19
Davey|UbuntuRiMMER: su && passwd :)12:19
zubuntulol12:19
som1atm, linux users do have to learn the right commands12:19
RiMMERwhat?12:19
HiddenWolfrimmer, ubuntu doesn't enable root by default12:19
zubuntusom1 hates the mouse!! what a cat!!!12:19
michel_vRiMMER: sudo passwd, if you want to set a root password. otherwise, you can do sudo -s with the first user you created, and then give your user's password12:19
HappyFoolmichel_v: what distribution are you running ? hoary on a i386 (i.e., normal PC) ?12:19
zubuntunick som1 Tom12:19
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liableRiMMER: male or female?12:19
RiMMERmale12:19
som1its in use, zubuntu :(12:19
RiMMERsorry I'm first-time linux user12:19
som1rimmer - su = going on root12:20
som1sudo= do something as root12:20
zubuntusom1, tom_vs_jerruy :)12:20
som1su = super user12:20
IIIEarsWelcome to Ubuntu linux RiMER :)12:20
RiMMERroot asks for password12:20
RiMMERI don't have root password12:20
som1!12:20
IIIEarsIt's your user password12:20
HappyFoolsudo asks for *your* password12:20
zubunturimmer, don't have to be sorry, you're welcome bro :)12:20
RiMMERmy user password doesn't work :(12:20
liableRiMMER: sudo su12:20
som1lol12:20
RiMMERaha now it works ;)12:20
zubuntuthe default password is a blank one12:20
som1no one would guess a blank password12:21
som1!12:21
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zubuntu! lol12:21
som1!12:21
liableRiMMER: very bad nick, conjurs up dirty thoughts :)12:21
RiMMERI can't edit sources list, do you know why ?12:21
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som1rimmer - u have to open it as root12:21
zubuntuever heard about the story of victor hugo and his editor?12:21
HappyFoolyou can change the repositories with synaptic12:22
liableRiMMER: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:22
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zubuntuhappyfool, that's what i told, but som1 hates his mouse :)12:22
michel_vHappyFool: actually, here dpkg -L xserver-xorg doesn't list libpcidata.a, even though the package's version is 6.8.2-1012:22
michel_vHappyFool: yeah, Hoary on x8612:23
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mpqflash is really buggy12:23
IIIEarsactually the root account is locked you can renable the lock "passwd root -l "12:23
zubuntumichel_v didn't work from the first time or after configuring xdm?12:23
mpqflash is really really buggy in linux12:23
zubuntumpq, why?12:24
mpqI don't know why12:24
mpqit just doesn't work right12:24
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zubuntuit works fine for me under firefocx and konqueror12:24
som1how can i make something use esd ?12:24
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mpqfor one some text never displays12:24
mpqand a lot of it is weird12:24
navreethow can I get flash under amd64?12:24
IIIEarsTyping "users" and "whoami" will give you useful info12:24
jeff25mpq, and it uses like 80% cpu12:25
mpqwhat?12:25
michel_vzubuntu: it never worked. it's just searching for a file that it doesn't provide12:25
zubuntujeff25, oh yeah that's a fact too12:25
HappyFoolmichel_v: i don't know how to fix this. one possibility is reinstalling the xserver-xorg package (it should be on the cd), or just doing a complete reinstall12:25
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som1?12:25
som1how can i tell a program to use esd?12:25
mpqsom1: don't12:25
zubuntumichel_v, ah ok :)12:25
som1WELL, i want sound to work!12:25
som1how can i make it work?12:25
mpquse alsa12:25
mpqesd won't make sound work12:25
som1IT doesnt use alsa. how can i make it use alsa?12:26
som1:(12:26
mpqI don't remember12:26
michel_vHappyFool: tried both. I think the package shipped on the cd I got is just rubbish :/12:26
som1evil12:26
jeff25what is 'it' ?12:26
som1enemy territory12:26
HappyFoolmichel_v: as i said, it works here ;) and many, many other places12:26
jeff25esd is really slow too12:26
zubuntuis there a place wher i can download a rat.gz of apache+mysql+php .debs?12:26
thoreauputicsom1: go to http://ubuntuguide.org and follow the "fixing sound" directions12:26
som1i did "fix sound"12:26
som1thats not it12:27
jeff25you're better off with oss12:27
thoreauputicsom1: worked for me12:27
som1it still doesnt work12:27
som1on enemy territory?12:27
jeff25som1: kill the esd daemon and tell your 'it' to use oss12:27
NicPwhat sound card do you have som1?12:27
som1jeff25 - how? maybe im not doing it right12:27
thoreauputicsom1: open alsamixer and check thet none of the channels are muted (mm)12:27
som1nicp - sis701212:27
zubuntusom1, maybe a question of rights on sound driver?12:27
thoreauputicsom1: hit m to unmute them12:27
NicPhmm12:27
NicPthoreauputic som1: open alsamixer and check thet none of the channels are muted (mm)12:27
som1throeauputic - it gives out an ERROR12:27
NicPtry that12:27
HappyFoolzubuntu: use synaptic. all of those packages are available. The actual debs are available on the ubuntu servers (e.g., archive.ubuntu.com)12:28
thoreauputicsom1: what does? alsamixer?12:28
som1theorauptic - the game12:28
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zubuntuHappyfool, my machine's at home and i don't have Internet there.12:28
thoreauputicsom1: *sigh* try what I suggested please12:28
IIIEarsheh12:28
Mezhey thoreauputic, long time no speak12:28
HappyFoolzubuntu: then try packages.ubuntu.com12:28
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HappyFoolyou will manually have to resolve dependencies, though12:29
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zubuntui just worry about the dependencies12:29
HappyFoolindeed12:29
IIIEarsthoreapitic - you are wonderful.12:29
zubuntuthat's what i thought too :(12:29
sdogiso, how can i get rid of that error that comes when upgrading kubuntu12:29
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som1/dev/dsp: Input/output error12:29
som1Could not mmap /dev/dsp12:29
thoreauputicIIIEars: no, I'm pretty ordinary actually12:30
IIIEarseye stile canned spall.12:30
michel_vHappyFool: yeah, that's what irks me so much. it works for everyone. but me :P12:30
Mezsom1 - ls /dev/dsp*12:30
Mezsee if anything shows u12:30
zubuntusom1 sudo gedit /etc/.inittab (really grafikal) ;)12:30
som1/dev/dsp12:30
Mezyou may just have nothing linked to dsp12:30
HappyFoolmichel_v: you *did* verify the CD using mdsum, right ? (bit of a long shot...)12:30
Mezreboot ;)12:30
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IIIEarswould spilling coffee on a keyboard fix the earlier pepsi spill?12:30
som1i did reboot, it didnt change12:30
newbiehey12:31
newbiemy ubuntu got frozen12:31
jeff25ls -l /dev/dsp12:31
newbienot responding12:31
Meznewbie - reboot12:31
zubuntuHappyFool, I just need the minimum and my connexion is, sorry, but really shity12:31
newbiedoes anyone know why ?12:31
ToutPT|ppc|frplease , is there a ppc channel ?12:31
pepsiIIIEars, hi12:31
IIIEarsHi12:31
newbieMez I did, I had to force reboot12:31
thoreauputicsom1: have you tried alsamixer? Are those errors from alsamixer?12:31
Mezand it still freezing now?12:31
newbiedunno, let's see ;)12:31
thoreauputicsom1: do please try it if you haven't yet12:31
zubuntusom1, sounds works for root but not for users?12:31
som1thoreauputic - alsamixer works fine. its from the game12:31
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newbieanyway, I still can't install xmms and still don't know how to12:31
som1zubuntu - no12:31
Meznewbie, even the bet of OSs crash at some point12:31
som1doesnt work for anyone12:32
Meznewbie12:32
pepsiIIIEars, if you spilled pepsi in the keyboard, id suggest taking it apart to wash and dry it as soon as possible12:32
som1thoreauputic i did12:32
Mezopen a console12:32
Mezand ype12:32
Mezsudo apt-get install xmms12:32
jeff25newbie: sudo apt-get install xmms12:32
thoreauputicsom1: I UNDERSSTAND that: but are there any muted channels?12:32
pepsiIIIEars, itll start to corrode the traces on the plastic sheets inside the keyboard12:32
jeff25:P12:32
som1thoreauputic there were. i un-muted them12:32
newbieMez, can I query you ?12:32
IIIEarspepsi - buying a gross of cheap keyboards is my plan ;)12:32
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Mezkeep it in public for now12:32
pepsibut washing and drying it could prevent any problems12:32
newbieI need to paste what console wrote12:33
Mez#flood12:33
liablezubuntu: whats that got to do with ubuntu?12:33
bpuccionewbie: #flood or try http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/12:33
liablezubuntu: more like actuall system12:33
thoreauputicnewbie: or pastebin.ubuntu.com12:33
som1zubuntu, isnt that on all countries?12:33
som1220v12:33
Meznewbie...12:33
Mezdo12:33
Mezsudo apt-get update12:33
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thoreauputicbpuccio: wrong url I think12:33
liablewhats that? sunday?12:33
Mezthen tryreinstall12:33
jeff25man 220v is a lot... that would fry your butt good12:33
Mez(try the install line again)12:33
newbiedone12:33
som1thoreauputic - there are some muted but nothing special, btw12:34
newbieok wait12:34
michel_vsom1: it's far from being the same in all countries :)12:34
newbiestill the same problem12:34
som1thoreauputic center and line12:34
newbiebut update ..done12:34
zubuntusom1, no not in .be12:34
MezHmm..12:34
som1computers dont work in belgium?12:34
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zubuntuand in usa it's not 220v, no?12:34
Mezpaste a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood12:34
zubuntusom1, i think so12:35
newbieok12:35
som1usa has to be special12:35
zubuntuallways..12:35
jeff25in us it's 110v12:35
som1lol12:35
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zubuntulol12:35
som1in here its 220v and im on ubuntu12:35
Mezsudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list12:35
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zubuntui wonder how a lamp system could work there12:35
newbiek12:35
som1it doesnt, they use sun light12:36
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trygvebwHi12:36
som1very primitive12:36
som1;)12:36
trygvebwIs there a GNOME application that can read CHM files?12:36
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zubuntua LINUX+Apache+Mysql+Php12:36
ToutPT|ppc|frplease , is there a channel  for the ppc version ?12:36
HappyFoolToutPT|ppc|fr: perhaps just ask your question here12:36
trygvebwToutPT|ppc|fr, no, but you can ask here12:37
MezNewbie12:37
ToutPT|ppc|frthat s a matter with the apple keymap12:37
HappyFooli see #ubuntu-ppc has all of 1 member12:37
newbieda12:37
Mezchange the line # deb http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe12:37
Mezto12:37
Mezdeb http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe12:37
Mez(remove the hash)12:37
newbiehow can I change it ?12:37
Mezand the line12:37
ToutPT|ppc|frHappyFool: this is me no ?12:37
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Mezactually12:38
Mezwtf12:38
rrichiehi all12:38
ToutPT|ppc|frarf no12:38
trygvebwhello rrichie12:38
Mezjust remove the # from teh start of EVERY line that has the word deb at the start of it12:38
rrichiecan i downgrade from breezy to hoary ?12:38
zubuntuwell, got to go :( nice to have a chat with you guys :)12:38
norm_hi - i'm having trouble with getting my wlan with WPA up and running - i've pasted the output of sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -d to http://pub.mcnally.dk/ubuntu_wlan.txt12:38
HappyFoolcheers zubuntu12:38
trygvebwrrichie, i think so, ask on #ubuntu-devel or search the wiki12:38
Meznewbie: PM12:39
jacquesmerdewhy is sound juicer progressing at ony (0.7x)? not complaining, just curious..12:39
zubuntuBTW, guys... isn't there any girl here? it's kinda hormono-sadness12:39
trygvebwjacquesmerde, no idea, it's a known problem with sound juicer in ubuntu :/12:39
thoreauputiczubuntu: we get a few: they don't always advertise ;)12:40
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zubuntujaquesmerde, I bet you're french! lol12:40
thoreauputiczubuntu: he's an aussie AFAIK12:40
thoreauputic:)12:40
zubuntuthoreauputic, aha ... they miss a lot: ME! :)12:40
jacquesmerdetrygvebw, so its an ubuntu problem, not a gnome one? ok. but i want it ripped noooooooow12:41
trygvebwjacquesmerde, try using another ripper12:41
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: try grip12:41
trygvebwjacquesmerde, or ask on #ubuntu-devel for a technical explanation :)12:41
jacquesmerdetrygvebw, is there one in the main repos?12:41
trygvebwjacquesmerde, grip12:41
zubuntujaquesmerde, c'est quoi ton probleme mon ami?12:41
thoreauputictrygvebw: don't direct people to #ubuntu-devel :)12:41
jeff25jacquesmerde: make sure to turn on DMA mode for your cd drive12:41
jacquesmerdeis grip better? i dont really like installed software, and i dont think the increase in speed will justify it12:42
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jacquesmerdejeff25, whoshotwhointhewhatnow?12:42
trygvebwthoreauputic, to ask for a technical explanation? they can't get that here... ;)12:42
thoreauputicgrip is much more configurable12:42
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jeff25jacquesmerde: ?12:42
jacquesmerdewill #ubuntu-devel tell me why ubuntu struggles with (u)mounting optical drives?12:42
thoreauputictrygvebw: #ubuntu-devel; isn't a help channel :)12:42
jacquesmerdejeff25, my cd drive has a DMA mode?12:43
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: they will probably send you right back here12:43
trygvebwthoreauputic, no, but i wasn't telling he to ask for help, just for an explanation of why it's slower than in other distros.. :)12:43
zubuntuwell bye boys :) jaquesmerdes: like french musicians say: merde pour le concert :) I meant for the bug12:43
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jacquesmerdeif only i could rips cds at (x1.0000000000000000000000000000000001)12:44
scythehello all, could use some help on a startup script12:44
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thoreauputicjacquesmerde: some people have had a speed up by turning off "paranoia" in grip12:45
scythei have a script set up to turn on dma for my cdrom, its located in /etc/rc5.d12:46
jacquesmerdethoreauputic, doesnt matter. i'll stick with 0.7 in juicer. thanks anyway12:46
scythei can run it from there, but it wont run at startup, any clues?12:46
mcsfhere's my problem: i can't upgrade linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 to version 2.6.10-34.1, i get an error about /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'. apparently i can't overwrite the file.12:46
HappyFoolscythe: considered using /etc/hdparm.conf instead ?12:46
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scythedidnt know that file existed... bbl12:47
HappyFoolscythe: otherwise, i think the default runlevel is 212:47
klaas_hi all, i've got a problem with opening .wmv files, i can see them, but the sound is fucked up12:47
scythei dont get why the rl would matter when I am trying to do it for rl 5 only12:48
thoreauputicklaas_: have you installed w32codecs?12:48
HappyFoolplace the script in /etc/init.d, and link to it from /etc/rc2.d -- you'll want a link name of the form Snncustom12:48
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HappyFoolscythe: you sure you're in runlevel 5 ?12:49
scytheahhh, i had it linked from /home/username/custom to /etc/rc5.d S98custom12:49
klaas_thoreauputic, yes i have12:49
scytheim in x12:49
klaas_thoreauputic, some files work, others give me the beep sound12:49
HappyFoolscythe: try 'runlevel' -- i think you'll find it says 212:49
thoreauputicscythe: ubuntu uses rl 2 for X, and 5 is not used unless you have configured it in some way12:49
scytheoh, that could explain it12:50
Fator_Deehello \o12:50
scythei thought rl 5 was default for x with networking12:50
thoreauputicscythe: almost certainly, yes12:50
HappyFoolscythe: caught me out too ;)12:50
thoreauputicscythe: not in Debian-based distros12:50
HappyFoolscythe: i'd use /etc/hdparm.conf anyway12:50
scythemy hdparm.conf says /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 has dma on, but it doesn't seem to work12:51
Mezscythe... Justin?12:51
scytheit should just say /dev/cdrom0 right?12:51
scytheno, not justin12:51
Mezah ok ;) I know womsone else by that nicvk12:52
HappyFoolscythe: isn't that commented out ?12:52
scytheyeah12:52
HappyFoolscythe: i added an entry /dev/hdc {<newline> dma=on<newline>}12:52
scythestill getting the hand of this scripting thing12:52
HappyFoolscythe: /dev/hdc {<newline> dma = on<newline>}, sorry12:52
HappyFooli think hdparm.conf is quite finicky about the spaces around the '='12:53
scythenew to debian based12:53
GNAMhi all! if I update kernel with synaptic, my pc will die?12:53
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thoreauputicGNAM: no, it will just be in agony ;)12:54
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thoreauputicGNAM: seriously, it will be fine12:54
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GNAMyesterday this operation crashed only menu.lst and x12:55
GNAMtoday may be more interesting ;)12:55
thoreauputicGNAM: there was a problem, but it has been fixed I believe12:55
newbiehey, my bass/treble switch doesn't work, why? :(12:55
GNAM"I believe" is a good Molder slogan12:55
thoreauputicGNAM: unless this is Breezy, in which case, good luck12:55
GNAMI Want to believe sorry12:56
som1how can i make something start when i start ubuntu?12:56
som1i wanna do12:56
GNAMbelieve ;)12:56
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GNAMno, hoary official12:56
som1echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss12:56
som1(;12:56
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som1just got the command wrong.. right.. only that.12:56
scythewhat is the advantage of running in rl 2 instead of 5.... there has to be a reason debian based distros do that12:57
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HappyFoolscythe: probably entirely arbitrary12:57
thoreauputicscythe: I haven't a clue: but it works12:57
newbiewhere are some nice wallpapers I can use?12:57
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thoreauputicscythe: debian just doesn't play silly runlevel games ;-)12:58
IIIEars__newbie gnome-look.org12:58
newbiethx12:58
scytheall linux systems play silly rl games..... just the rules are different12:58
thoreauputicscythe: :)12:58
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HappyFoolsom1: write a little script to do what you want, and make a symbolic link to it in /etc/rc2.d/ with name something like Snncustom, where nn is a number like 9512:59
IIIEars__thoreaputic - "ispell" Okay i can't but their is a nice script for xchat12:59
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HappyFoolsom1: or just write a wrapper script for your game, and do it in there12:59
scythehow do I rerun the hdparm.conf without rebooting01:00
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IIIEars__ouch lol their?01:00
mcsfhere's my problem: i can't upgrade linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 to version 2.6.10-34.1, i get an error about /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'. btw, i can't open the file with gedit, and nautilius can't read it01:00
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thoreauputicIIIEars__: you still haven't got the tab complete habit for nicks, have you *grin*01:01
emacsenIs there not an iSCSI initiator package?01:01
newbiecan anyone give me some nice wallpaper they like ?01:01
HappyFoolscythe: at a guess , "/etc/init.d/hdparm restart"01:01
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IIIEars__thorea, - nope. - wide grin01:01
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scythetold you I was new to this whole scripting thing :)01:01
thoreauputicIIeeeearS, I see01:02
som1happyfool - how ?01:02
scythethanx, that worked like a charm01:02
theD3viLWhere in xorg.conf set no acceleration for mouse??01:02
HappyFoolnewbie: try apt-get install ubuntu-calendar -- i quite like april's wallpaper01:03
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HappyFoolsom1: what do you want to know?01:03
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thoreauputicHappyFool: but where is the May calendar??01:03
newbieHappyFool, when I downloaded it, where can I run it ?01:04
som1to make the game do that one line.. echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss01:04
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HappyFoolthoreauputic: indeed. I shall write a stern letter to Canonical to inquire!01:04
som1but last time it didnt work, the way i tried it01:04
HappyFoolnewbie: it should install the wallpaper automatically01:04
som1so how am i supposed to do it?01:04
thoreauputicnewbie: the new wallpaper will be in the wallpaper chooser dialog01:04
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HappyFoolnewbie: err, or what thoreauputic said01:04
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HappyFoolsom1: write a script with two commands, the first that one (your echo command) and then second command to call the game01:05
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HappyFoolsom1: the script should have as first line #!/bin/bash , and as second and third lines your commands. You can create it with gedit, or whatever you like01:05
som1yes i did that01:05
som1oh01:06
thoreauputicsom1: make it executable with chmod +x01:06
som1thanks01:06
HappyFoolmake sure it's executable -- you can change the file properties with nautilus01:06
HappyFoolor chmod ;)01:06
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HappyFoolthen you can make a launcher from the top panel to it, and start your game with a single click01:06
som1it has a command to start.. "et", how can i know where is that file of et located?01:07
som1slocate et = spam01:07
scythehappy, that sounds like a lot of work :P01:07
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poningruguys I had a question01:07
poningrufor the conf files01:07
HappyFoolsom1: try 'which et'01:07
Fator_Deesom1: I'd guess /usr/bin/et01:07
som1thx01:07
poningrudoes the order matter?01:07
som1/usr/local/bin/et :P01:08
poningrulike instead of01:08
Fator_Dee:-p01:08
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poningruSection "Monitor"01:08
poningruIdentifier "L1710S"01:08
poningruOption "DPMS"01:08
poningrucan I do01:08
thenukewhy this torrent does not work? http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent01:08
poningruSection "Monitor"01:08
poningruOption "DPMS"01:08
poningruIdentifier "L1710S"01:08
Fator_Deetracker is busted?01:08
som1yes it had #!/bin/bash at the start but it didnt work before01:08
thenukeit has been broken for ages, the download does not start01:08
HappyFoolthenuke: see the topic01:08
som1will try now01:08
thenukeHappyFool:  ah ok, too long topic in here :)01:08
shanonponingru: yes as long as it is in the section01:09
som1#!/bin/sh echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss01:09
thoreauputicthenuke: to read the topic just type /topic01:09
som1cd "/usr/local/games/enemy-territory"01:09
som1export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:.01:09
som1exec ./et.x86 "$@"01:09
som1like that?01:09
thoreauputicthenuke: good habit01:09
poningrushanon: so wait the order doesnt matter?01:09
poningruand what I showed was fine?01:09
HappyFoolsom1: the echo must be on its own line01:09
HappyFoolie, not on the same line as #!/bin/bash01:10
thenukethoreauputic: yeah I did that01:10
shanonponingru: That should be fine. They are just name value pairs01:10
Amaranthdoes anyone wanna beta test the new smeg?01:10
som1ok, so i had that in start01:10
HappyFooli don't think you really need the exec01:10
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som1oops01:10
shanonponingru: why are you having problems ?01:10
poningrucool thanks01:10
som1oh.. i do need it01:10
poningrunot really01:10
poningrujust experimenting01:10
poningruwith diff stuff01:10
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som1happyfool, how could i check if that works?01:11
thoreauputicAmaranth: I would, but I'm enjoying fluxbox here ATM ;)01:11
scytheamaranth, what is smeg01:11
poningruget a hold of yourself travis01:11
HappyFoolsom1: run it from the bash prompt01:11
som1nono01:11
poningruscythe: the menu editor01:11
som1i already did that echo command on bash01:11
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HappyFoolsom1: ./yourscriptname01:11
HappyFoolso?01:11
poningruwe are not gonna die in here damn it01:11
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Amaranthit has a really cool awesome new feature that needs lots of testing01:12
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som1well, ill just try it in the usual way01:12
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Amaranthoh, i forgot, i need to implement something else that needs tested01:12
poningruI will test01:12
Amaranthponingru: Give me 15 minutes. :)01:12
poningrutake your time dude01:12
scythemenu editor, what type of menus...... like desktop menu's or program menus for the developers01:12
HappyFoolsom1: you think that repeating that echo will cause problems ?01:12
Amaranthscythe: The Applications menu on the top of your screen01:13
shanonsom1: What are you doing ?01:13
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scytheahhh, im in kde01:13
Amaranthponingru: Nevermind, just found a massive bug. :/01:13
Amaranthscythe: Well, it can edit that menu too, but kmenuedit might work better01:13
scytheim happy with it01:14
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jimcooncatOpinion, please! for a small volume jabberd, should I use: ubuntu package "jabber 1.4.3-3" or "jabberd2 2.0s3-0.1"?01:14
scythenot to start a flamewar, but kde is just more confortable for me.....  im still tyring to get used to gnome01:14
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spanglesontoastya I found kde used to be better01:15
spanglesontoastbut getting used to gnome is better now01:15
HappyFoolscythe: do not alter your location. gnome re-educators are en route.01:15
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scythelol01:15
scytheits just what i cut my teeth on, back in rh 5 days.... never really used gnome01:15
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thoreauputicscythe: men in black: ETA 3 minutes ;)01:16
bigfootwhat program in ubuntu can one use for news:// sites?01:16
thoreauputicbigfoot: pan01:16
HappyFoolit's great how kubuntu sprung up as a community thing01:16
scythemib.... how long will it take to reach korea again?01:16
bigfootis there no built in newsreader?01:16
scythei dont have kubuntu.... i just apt-get'ed kde01:17
jimcooncatpan's excellent, but I don't like to leave it unattended. Sometime it'll jump the CPU usage.01:17
scythesame diff though01:17
shanonbigfoot: pan will do it01:17
spanglesontoastk ubuntu is only a kde form of ubuntu01:18
AmaranthYeah, but installing the kubuntu-desktop package makes sure you get the full kubuntu experience01:18
scytheright... i started with gnome.... but went back to my confort zone01:18
AmaranthInstead of Ubuntu + KDE01:18
theD3viLI set xset m 1 but i want my mouse goes slower then now... how can i do that?01:18
thoreauputickubuntu-desktop is quite impressive, indeed01:18
spanglesontoastit looks the same01:19
spanglesontoast?01:19
jimcooncatI tried KDE with a crappy Fedora 2 install. Now I'm used to gnome I'm reluctant to try out kubuntu.01:19
thoreauputicspanglesontoast: I assume so01:19
scythewhats the tweaks for kubuntu that arent in the standard kde package01:19
spanglesontoastfed comes with both kde and gnome01:19
scythejim... i hated fedora01:19
spanglesontoastI like ubuntu as they have more packages01:20
scytheit couldn't even detect my dvd drive right01:20
spanglesontoastunfort it doesn't work on my k601:20
thoreauputicjimcooncat: redhat used to butcher KDE - I don't know if they mended their ways01:20
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HappyFoolscythe: i suspect kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package dependent on the appropriate kde packages01:20
spanglesontoastgot about 5 of those drives lying around01:20
jimcooncatkde on fed used to keep crashing, so I got discouraged.01:20
Fator_DeeHappyFool: aye, it is01:20
spanglesontoaston different machines different things happen01:21
scythei  dont like the bluecurve thing they did, where they tried to make kde and gnome the same01:21
scythethere is a reason they are different..... and should stay so01:21
Amaranthk6?01:21
scythewow, thats an old proc01:21
Amaranthscythe: Yeah, but the bluecurve GNOME icons aren't that bad.01:21
AmaranthNo, I think he means a HD or something01:22
spanglesontoastnot that old01:22
scythehehe01:22
jimcooncatanyone running jabberd?01:22
spanglesontoastI ran my p3 to death01:22
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Amaranthan amd k6 should work fine, unless the processor isn't fully i38601:22
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scythei had a k7 almost 5-6 years ago, its old for a computer, but still usable01:22
spanglesontoastthis baby is a k701:23
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spanglesontoast3.2 ghz01:23
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spanglesontoastI had worn out the 2.6 ghz too easily01:23
spanglesontoastin a year01:23
spanglesontoast:D01:23
scythemy real computer is a k7xp (1.533), but im now on a p4m 1.201:23
scythehow do you wear out a 2.6 in a year?? oc'd01:24
spanglesontoastno overclocking01:24
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spanglesontoastand it was properly cooled01:24
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ChoubakaI'm still using a 1.2 GHz Duron :|01:24
scythewhat were you doing to the poor thing01:24
scythemy server is a duel xenon 50001:24
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spanglesontoastwell compiling stuff01:25
ChoubakaI needa get a new computer. probably closer to 2 GHz this time :)01:25
spanglesontoasttesting distros out on it01:25
spanglesontoastplaying some games01:25
spanglesontoastoh and downloading pron01:25
scytheand i have two (count them 2) pentium 1's at home01:25
som1happyfool, thanks, it works now.. just got a few more problems to fix:<01:25
spanglesontoastp1's can just about manage to play half life hehe01:25
HappyFoolsom1: good stuff01:25
IIIEarschoubaka, - try newegg.com always a good weekly special for the OEM computer.01:26
scythewhich distros did you test? ive tried about 5 in the last couple of months.... any you would recommend trying?01:26
som1:)01:26
ChoubakaIIIEars: OEM computer?01:26
Choubakasounds bad.01:26
AmaranthAMD doesn't have a 3.2Ghz processor01:26
scythemy p1's are end tables at my desk01:26
ChoubakaI won't buy a computer which comes with windows at the very least .|01:26
IIIEarschoubaka, - ya know "prebuilt"01:26
HappyFoolscythe: what have you tried01:26
scytheblasphemy01:26
ChoubakaThose tend to come with Windows.01:26
ChoubakaI will not pay for windows ever again.01:27
IIIEarsnot all of them some really nice rigs at outpost.com also01:27
scytheyoper, knoppix, freebsie, ubuntu, suse 9.2 (my other fave besides ubuntu), fedora core 301:27
spanglesontoastto be honest scythe01:27
spanglesontoastthe only one that I find sensible to download is ubuntu01:27
ChoubakaIf I don't get myself a self-built PC, I'll get a mac. :)01:27
spanglesontoastbut I'm building a massive guide site for linux users01:28
spanglesontoastnot just for ubuntu01:28
spanglesontoastbut other distros01:28
HappyFoolscythe: i guess one other 'big-name' distro is mandriva01:28
xtian_trondheimHi! I love Ubuntu, but how can I run the command hotkeys -t hp5181 during bootup? I can't find any local.rc etc.01:28
scythei rarely get sub 100k dl speeds, dl'ing isn't  painful here01:28
IIIEarscan't wait to try cedega - (crosses fingers) if it works for most games i won't need or want a microsoft security disaster either.01:28
HappyFoolscythe: haven't used mandrake since .. er 8 or 9 (? i forget)01:28
Choubakaxtian_trondheim: /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh01:28
Choubakaeh01:28
Choubakaxtian_trondheim: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh01:29
Choubaka:)01:29
Choubakatabcomplete not working :P01:29
scytheohhh... mandrake 6-7 was my last, then i went to suse 7... and had been there since till i got the laptop and broadband01:29
spanglesontoastcan't wait for my 8mbps01:29
spanglesontoast:D01:29
xtian_trondheimChoubaka: Great!!! Why didn't I find that on the web?? :-) Thank you!01:29
IIIEars<< grateful Linspire was so restrictive. never would of found Ubuntu - wide grin.01:30
scytheim going home... back to my 52k connection01:30
ChoubakaI can't wait for my 100Mbps UNI connection01:30
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scythecant wait till broadband makes it to the stix, on the other side of the boonies01:30
kjoonleehi :)01:30
ChoubakaDirect access to FUNet :|01:30
kjoonleeDoes the Hoary install CD contain all packages in hoary/main ?01:30
spanglesontoastlinspure requires money01:30
Seveaskjoonlee, no01:31
spanglesontoastunless you "Borrow the apps"01:31
Seveaskjoonlee, the DVD has everything in main01:31
spanglesontoasthehe01:31
ChoubakaAnd linspire users run as root.01:31
IIIEarsscythe - If you don't online game satellite looks okay.01:31
Seveaslinspire is bad01:31
scythenot all.... but not a bad amount of packages01:31
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spanglesontoastand an old version winex01:31
spanglesontoastthat doesn't even work01:31
HappyFoolChoubaka: so it's a windows clone then ? ;)01:31
Choubaka:P01:31
scytheyeah, satellite... its only 700 to start up (and buy equipment)01:31
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kjoonleeSeveas: Thanks.. so the answer to "Is there only one CD for Ubuntu?" would be "Yes, but you can get things via the internet."01:32
IIIEarsLinspire has made some nice contributions to the open source community01:32
spanglesontoasthuh scythe?01:32
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Seveaskjoonlee, indeed01:32
Seveasapt-get is your friend :)01:32
marcel_Why is there no default icon set which supports both kde and gnome apps in the gnome panel menu?01:32
HappyFoolthere's a dvd too, isn't there?01:32
scythewhat are you huh'ing spalgle?01:32
thoreauputicmarcel_: good question01:32
SeveasHappyFool, indeed, the dvd has all of hoary/main01:32
scytheunivers is your friend seveas01:33
scythebrb01:33
HarnakAre the Nforce4 drivers included in ubuntu's default install or shall I need to visit nvidia.com01:33
Seveasscythe, that too :)01:33
IIIEarsone CD is a blessing four fedora cd installations take 90mins01:33
SeveasHarnak, they are included01:33
marcel_The only one is rodent01:33
marcel_from xfce01:34
spanglesontoastI have to buy a flipping new sound card01:34
spanglesontoastcos most distros don't support my onboard ac7(via)01:34
spanglesontoastsurround and normal sound work01:34
HarnakSeveas, thanks.. now to find out why I can't hear CD's.01:34
spanglesontoastexcept my subwoofer doesn't work01:34
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marcel_spanglesontoast: pardon?01:35
scytheany suggestions for a good vpn client01:35
marcel_spanglesontoast: via what?01:35
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Hajuu_Hey uhm01:35
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Hajuu_What did you guys say was the apt-get line for those nvidia drivers?01:35
spanglesontoastviatech01:35
thoreauputicHarnak: try using xmms with digital output (you may be missing a connection from CD-ROM to sound card )01:36
SeveasHajuu_, apt-get install linux-686 (intel) kinux-k7 (amd)01:36
marcel_spanglesontoast: Yeah. Now mayve youd like to tell me what chipset01:36
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Hajuu_Seveas, hmm?01:36
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Harnakthoreauputic: now that you mention it , you're right..  I never install those cables anymore.. thanks for hte reminder ;)01:37
spoonman2has anyone made Netgear WG511 wifi card work with ubuntu?01:37
Hajuu_What does my processor have to do with video card drivers?01:37
spanglesontoaster how do I find that out01:37
HappyFoolSeveas: you sure about that? I think i installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings01:37
spinifexhello.  I have a friend who wants to use Ubuntu.  He has a 120 gig ntfs hard drive with lots of stuff on it he wants to keep.  He is very skeptical about the partitioner in the ubuntu installer.  How reliable is it at resizing ntfs partitions without corrupting his data?01:37
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marcel_spanglesontoast: lspci01:37
thoreauputicHarnak: beep-media-player may be a better option than xmms - try it01:37
spanglesontoastbah?01:37
poningruamaranth you ready dude?01:37
Hajuu_HappyFool, those are what I was after.. are those the apt-get package names?01:37
spanglesontoastah01:37
Amaranthponingru: No, this bug is annoying. Sorry. :/01:37
HarnakThoreauputic: I'll give that a shot.. thanks01:38
HappyFoolHajuu: yeah01:38
spanglesontoast0000:00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)01:38
HappyFoolHajuu: i think this is on the wiki though01:38
spanglesontoastoops01:38
Hajuu_hrm01:38
IIIEarsHajuu - are you installing video drivers?01:38
HappyFoolHajuu: and on ubuntuguide.org ?01:38
Hajuu_IIIEars, yes indeedy.01:38
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spanglesontoast0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)01:38
spanglesontoastthere we go01:38
spinifexis the "resize partition" capability of the ubuntu install cd reliable?01:38
poningrutake your time dude I was afraid you lost my nick or something01:38
poningrujust call my name when you are ready01:38
poningruhave the whole day01:38
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HappyFoolspinifex: how about your friend buys another hard-drive ?01:39
marcel_VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)01:39
spinifexhappyfool:  uhhh01:39
marcel_sounds somewhat similar to mine01:39
scythespinifex i dont know, but parted seems reliable.... its what i used01:39
spanglesontoastwhat the rev bit stand for?01:39
marcel_Which works in every single linux distro I've used01:39
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spanglesontoastwhat the subwoofer?01:40
IIIEarsHajuu - it likely won't matter much unless you are using a lap top power saving features and HTT i think the smp kernel - I used the i386 kernel for a bit before realizing there was a better kernel.01:40
LewijiArsehere goes: kubuntu01:40
marcel_Try umuting channels01:40
marcel_or god forbid01:40
marcel_read the manual01:40
Hajuu_IIIEars, ehh... I want better video drivers than the included ones...01:40
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HappyFoolspinifex: i'm not being sarcastic, i'm being quite serious. they're not *all* that expensive, especially relative to the cost of losing all your data01:40
Hajuu_The ones it comes with for the MX440 aren't very good.01:41
spanglesontoastdon't have a manual01:41
spanglesontoastit's onboard01:41
scythecan you hear any sound, or is the cd sound the only thing not working01:41
Hajuu_The XMMS visualisations lag.01:41
spanglesontoastno I hear sound just not the subwoofer01:41
scythek01:41
spanglesontoastthat's what I need working01:41
Hajuu_spanglesontoast, are you using the Gui?01:41
HappyFoolHajuu_: (re the nvidia drivers) see here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver01:42
spanglesontoastfor?01:42
IIIEarsHajuu - the 686 .10.5 worked fine for my desktop .11 didn't work very well for me.01:42
Hajuu_For playing your sound through?01:42
spanglesontoastoh I'm using xmms01:42
Hajuu_right01:42
IIIEars<saves the link>01:42
spanglesontoastoh forgot to say got another pci sound card01:42
scythenewbie warning -- how do i check my kernel ver from cli?01:42
HappyFooluname -r01:43
spanglesontoastbut i really only use that for headphones01:43
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spanglesontoastmy onboard has 5.101:43
scythethanx01:43
Hajuu_double click the speaker near the clock... Go edit--> preferences---> and check that your rear channels are turned up01:43
Hajuu_Tehres a 3d control switch01:43
Hajuu_and something else01:43
Hajuu_I belive01:43
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spanglesontoastlots of settings no 3d01:44
spinifexmy friend says:  "Will resizing a partition with ubuntu erase any data?"01:44
Hajuu_there are in mine...01:44
Hajuu_like 5 or 6 3d settings01:44
Hajuu_did you enable the settings in edit --> preferences ?01:44
jimcooncatspinifex: backup first!!!01:45
spanglesontoastwould you like a screenshot of my settings that I have?01:45
scythespinifex... answer "not usually, but back up just in case"01:45
Hajuu_spinifex, as with any partition program, it *shouldnt* erase any data when resizing a partition, assuming you have enough free space to accomodate such a size change..01:46
Hajuu_but shouldnt doesnt always count for much01:46
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scythehajuu depends on where winders put the data..... actually had a system that refused to move system data from the end of the partition01:46
Hajuu_9 out of 10 times a decent partitioning program will do it.01:47
spanglesontoasthey how do I send you the screenshot?01:47
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Hajuu_spanglesontoast, uhm... DCC it to me?01:47
Hajuu_right click my nick and go DCC01:47
Hajuu_err wait01:47
spinifexwell, thank you.  Looks like he's gonna risk it.  Oh good, it can tell how much space he's using01:47
scythehajuu, true... but i am cheap and used windows defrag and partitioner01:48
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Hajuu_hehe01:48
spinifexbtw, his fan wasn't detected (fatal kernel module error).  Is that uber bad?01:48
spinifexI mean, will it overheat and explode or something?  =P01:49
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spanglesontoasti did it like that so you could see everything hajuu01:49
scythespin, just because the fan wasnt detected, doesnt mean that its not spinning01:50
Hajuu_is that with all the options in preferences enabled?01:50
scytheid physically look at it01:50
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WeirdAlHey dudes and dudettes.01:50
scytheand check the bios and see if it can detect it still01:50
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spanglesontoastnope I haven't enabled all in the options tab01:50
WeirdAlIs there a way of stopping the window switcher entries changing size all the time?01:50
WeirdAlEvery time XMMS changes track all the things shift size.01:50
scaryI have a weird face01:51
spanglesontoastor do you mean switches01:51
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Hajuu_go to the edit menu... preferences... And enable the "3D Control - Switch"01:52
Hajuu_As the name implies.. Yes.. that will appear in the switches tab01:52
Hajuu_Also enable "Line in --> rear out"01:52
spanglesontoastthere isn't one on the volume control preferences01:53
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massimilianoshi all!01:53
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Hajuu_Isn't one of what?01:53
marcel_Edit >>>>> Preferences01:54
massimilianosanyone knows about MAPSERVER01:54
spanglesontoast3d01:54
spanglesontoasttheres no 3d bit01:54
spanglesontoastis that bad?01:54
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(HappyFool/#ubuntu) you need the right frequencies too04:05
(ra21vi/#ubuntu) Fator_Dee:- i know that, i m quite well on Gentoo i think :)04:05
(Fator_Dee/#ubuntu) ra21vi: oh, sorry then :-p04:06
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ra21viFator_Dee:-  lol, ;) Just new to debian base.... so i have some problem just regarding Debian Arch, else everything is the same04:08
Fator_Deera21vi: well, I don't know what things are the same on gentoo so :-p04:08
toranoh, I guess this might make a difference- I've got one SATA drive. That may be why the IDE drives don't want to go into dma mode04:09
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Fator_Deera21vi: maybe you could try to reconfigure the xserver and try to enable the resolutions from there?04:10
tbastenis it possible to set up a domain server in ubuntu>?04:10
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ra21viFator_Dee:-  I did that, but my config was not accepted by X, so i did back to old04:11
ra21viwhats ur default resolution04:11
ra21vi640x48004:11
Fator_Dee1280*102404:11
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ra21viFator_Dee:-  was that default just after Installation04:11
Fator_Deeyep04:11
ra21vior u did configure manually04:11
Fator_Deeafter install04:12
tbastenis it possible to set up a domain server in ubuntu? (like user login authenitcation etc...04:12
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HappyFooltbasten: i see bind9 in main04:12
ra21vido u have Nvidia>?04:12
Fator_DeeGF2MX40004:12
HappyFooltbasten: you mean windows domain controller? you can get that with samba04:12
Fator_Deeso yes04:12
ra21vi:)04:13
tbastenHappyFool, so i can set up a domain controller similar to active directory?04:13
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HappyFooltbasten: i am not sure of the details. samba can act as a domain controller, afaik04:13
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Burgundaviatbasten, HappyFool not yet04:14
HappyFoolah. i stand corrected04:14
Burgundaviasamba 4 will be able to be a AD DC04:14
Burgundaviabut samba can currently be a PDC (for NT4)04:14
HappyFoolwww.samba.org and http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ have more04:15
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Burgundavia4 is almost out, from what I understand04:15
podgeburgundavia : Did you read the articles about Tridge using his wife as the Samba 4.0 tester? :)04:15
ra21viFator_Dee:-  its taking too long to download things, i m down04:15
ra21viFator_Dee:-  hey, tell me something, some personal experience on Linux04:16
Burgundaviapodge, nope04:16
Fator_Deera21vi: like what?04:16
ra21viFator_Dee:-  Like, which Linux distro u like much...04:16
Fator_Deera21vi: my experience is quite limited04:16
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Fator_Deera21vi: ubuntu is the best, before that I used madrake 9.204:16
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Fator_Deeso :-p04:17
ra21viFator_Dee:-  I used Redhat till Fedora Core 3, then Mandrake 10.0, and some others . then i was stopped on Gentoo04:17
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Fator_DeeI've been using linux for.. 4 years maybe04:17
ra21vigentoo seemed fast, but when i installed Ubuntu, although its only i386 optimized, but its comparably fast than Gnome on Gentoo04:18
ra21vias my experience....04:18
ra21vimy Gentoo is P4-i686 optimized04:18
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HappyFoolheh. i'm sure if you ran some real-world-useless benchmark you could find a difference ;)04:19
ra21viwill it be good to install KDE, or just be on Gnome04:19
Burgundaviara21vi, optimizations are really not all that they are cracked up to be04:19
thoreauputicarch optimising is over-rated IMO: Slackware is the fastest distro I've used so far04:19
Fator_Deera21vi: I installed xfce4 :-p04:19
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ra21viBurgundavia:-  maybe, i m doubtful04:20
thoreauputicor actually Vector linux, which is a Slack derivative04:20
ra21viFator_Dee:-  xfce is good, lightweight still illustrative04:20
Fator_Deera21vi: yep, I found that out04:20
podgethoreauputic : Initially I was disappointed by Slackware boot times... Ubuntu out of the box is very quick to boot..04:21
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thoreauputicpodge: heh - I don't reboot much so I haven't noticed ;)04:21
sijmenawesome04:21
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XhyldazhKHi all04:21
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IIIEarsWhat is "GNU" Linux? Debian?04:21
XhyldazhKI have a very serious problem04:21
sijmenwhen ubuntu shuts down ALSO (before going down), VMWare automatically mutes the Windows audio04:21
podgethoreauputic : good point.. but I prefer to shut down my machine at night..04:22
FiretechIIIEars: www.gnu.org04:22
musicianhello. is there a program to play midi files? a program that has a graphical interface, so that i don't have to do any typing in the terminal? and hopefully a program that can do playlists.04:22
thoreauputicIIIEars: linux=kernel  GNU/Linux + the whole OS04:22
IIIEarsThanks04:22
ra21viGNU, the base of every Linux, but Freedom04:22
Firetechmusician: timidity04:22
Fator_Deemusician: I think there are midi plugins for the usual players04:22
thoreauputicsorry s/+/=04:22
musicianFiretech, i got timidity but it runs only in terminal right?04:22
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Firetechnoo04:22
podgethoreauputic : Win XP is impressive with it's quick boot times..Ubuntu is only about 15 seconds slower on my PC..04:22
thenukeIIIEars: gnu Linux means the kernel04:23
Fator_Deepodge: and how much 15 seconds matters to you :-p04:23
Firetechmusician: just run "timidity -ig"04:23
sijmeni thought gnu/linux was more like a combination of the gnu base tools, and the linux kernel04:23
thoreauputicpodge: yes, but the XP boot time is deceptive since it appears as GUI before it is fully functional04:23
Firetechand you have a gui with playlist04:23
ShuddertrixUbuntu doesn't take very long for me to boot, compiled my own kernel instead.04:23
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musicianFator_Dee, before i downloaded timidity, doubleclicking on a midi file got me an error message04:23
robertjanyone know how to set up a printer in cups that will dump the job out into a pipe?04:24
musicianFiretech, "Interface `g' is not compiled in."04:24
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darkauditIs *windows* ready for the desktop? http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/18/2033216 :D04:24
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Fator_Deemusician: that's propably because you didnt have any players installed that could've handled midis04:24
Shuflahello :D:D04:24
FreezerXWhy is it not possible to scroll in the bashhistory?!04:24
XhyldazhKHELP ME HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME I did a 'sudo checkinstall' to install Crystal Space CVS, but at the middle I did Ctrl+C, and from this moment I am not able to login as another user different of root, and any program that needs to change user to another user distinct of root fails in its execution, what can I do? I'm truly desperated...04:24
Firetechmusician: strange04:24
thoreauputicmusician: yes it is - I use it here04:24
podgefator_dee : Some Linux distros just take too long to boot.. Ubuntu is great though..04:24
thoreauputictimidity -ig04:24
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musicianthoreauputic, "yes"  g is compiled in?04:25
Fator_Deepodge: I've never actually thought about the boot time, I usually do something else why the comp boots up :-\04:25
thoreauputicmusician: yup04:25
Fator_Dee*why=when04:25
thoreauputicon hoary anyway04:25
Firetechmusician: try downloading the package timidity-interfaces-extra04:25
IIIEarsLOL - just more marketing. several computer brands are advertising themselves as "GNU" linux - was familiar with the GNU project.04:25
XhyldazhKHELP me please!!!04:25
thoreauputicah yes, you need the package Firetech mentions :)04:25
HappyFoolXhyldazhK: what error do you get ?04:25
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sijmendarkaudit, that's certainly a fun article, thanks!04:26
ShuflaXhyldazhK: FYI - do not use sudo, use fakeroot in that case. paste your /etc/passwd to some paste-web-sites04:26
IIIEarsI hope Ubuntu can marry one of the big manufacturers04:26
podgethoreauputic : I still have to login to gnome before being able to use my linux box.. which does take longer than XP GUI to load..04:26
XhyldazhKHappyFool: when I am as root and I try to change user by example 'su - xhyldazhk' it saysm me that permission denied04:26
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musicianFator_Dee, yes, the players i have and the plugins i have are, for the most part, the ones that the ubuntu cd installed .04:26
Fator_DeeIIIEars: they have some collaboration with HP04:26
thoreauputicpodge: true04:26
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XhyldazhKShufla: but once that the damage is done what can i do? is the /etc/passwd damaged?04:27
thingfishI normally like Roblimo's pieces, but I didn't care for that one much.04:27
ShuflaI hope that Ubuntu won't marry any of big manufacturers. I hope that Ubuntu will be Microsoft-like in linux world - it'll dominate (in GNU way) and standarize all, and will be supported by big manufacturers.04:27
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ShuflaXhyldazhK: it might be. look for error in /var/log/auth.log04:27
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firepolhappyfool: i have the same problem, anyway i noticed something new...04:27
musiciani got the graphical midi player now. thanks. is there a way to open up midis all at the same time, instead of one by one?04:27
XhyldazhKShufla: its ONLY /etc/passwd the damaged file?04:27
podgethoreauputic : But.. it is getting better all the time with Linux.. which is great.. as I don't have to pay for MS to take out the sleep statements from their code..04:27
Fator_Deemusician: try to select a directory04:28
XhyldazhKbecause I viewed it on an editor and it looked normal04:28
thoreauputicmusician: yes, you can make playlists04:28
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ShuflaXhyldazhK: i do not know. my first guess. but you _HAVE_ to check /var/log/auth.log and syslog for errors.04:28
HappyFoolfirepol: yes?04:28
jpmusician use muine :)04:28
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jpoh im wrong sorry04:28
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musicianthoreauputic, yes, but to make playlists, i have to first "open" each midi up one by one first right?04:28
XhyldazhKShufla: I can repeat the same behaviour on the laptop here04:28
jpyou're talking about midis <.04:28
IIIEarsUbuntu wouldn't lose it's identity just provide an OS for a box.04:28
jp:P04:28
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razWould that be the cmd to remove a directory?: sudo rm foo -d04:29
XhyldazhKShufla: there were strange files in /var/backup04:29
musicianwhat about the sounds? i heard something about there being better sounds if i replace freepats with something better. Kindly confirm.04:29
qiqoguys can i access ntfs partitions using ubuntu?04:29
IIIEarsMoney wouldn't hurt a good project.04:29
Fator_Deeraz: rm -r foo04:29
razqiqo, yes04:29
qiqohows that?04:29
razFator_Dee, thx04:29
Shuflaqiqo: www.ubuntuguide.org04:29
qiqook thanks04:29
thoreauputicmusician: the playlists are just file lists - you can do something like " echo ls *.midi > playlist.pls "04:29
Shuddertrixof course, it's read-only for NTFS however.04:29
XhyldazhKanyone have faced the same problem as me?04:29
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musicianin the graphichal program, thoreauputic ?04:29
thoreauputicmusician: I forget the exact syntax I used04:29
Shuflaor "echo *.midi" > playlist.ple04:29
qiqoohh thats the problem04:29
Shuddertrixunless you like taking a chance and screwing up your perfect boot tables.04:30
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razFator_Dee, what is the linux equivalent of "cd.."? (to only go back once..)04:30
Shuflaeh, that wont do it :(04:30
qiqowhenever i copy and then paste a file from an nfts partition it doesnt copy at all04:30
Fator_Deeraz: cd ..04:30
firepolhappyfool: i boot with my livecd, i mount my partition, then i chroot. then i mount /boot , if i do grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda : it wil lcreate a subfolder called /boot inside boot, resulting in /boot/boot/grub ...04:30
thoreauputicmusician: the gui is fairly limited04:30
razFator_Dee, thanky.04:30
Fator_Deeraz: notice the " " space :-)04:30
razyup yup04:30
thoreauputicmusician: have you looked into using rosegarden4 ?04:30
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musicianis there a gui midi program that is better than?04:30
HappyFoolfirepol: ah. no, in that case try maybe --root-directory=/04:30
thoreauputicmusician: much more sophisticated04:30
musicianis rosegarden better than timidiy?04:31
firepolhappyfool: and if i do simply grub-install /dev/hda, it tells me this error message: dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.04:31
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HappyFoolfirepol: hm. was your primary master plugged in ?04:31
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firepolhappyfool: i even tried with --root-directory=/ : it tells me this error message: dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.04:31
thoreauputicmusician: orders of magnitude: you can write music in it, print your music etc04:31
XhyldazhKHappyFool: do you have any clue on my error?04:31
HappyFoolfirepol: sounds to me like your primary master wasn't plugged in04:31
HappyFoolXhyldazhK: no, sorry...04:31
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firepolhappyfool: yes, my primary HD was inserted and detected at the bios screen04:31
HappyFoolfirepol: hmm04:32
thoreauputicmusician: but get rosegarden4, not the older one04:32
firepolhappyfool: no, if i insert a windows boot disk, i can boot windows from my primary master04:32
HappyFoolfirepol: hangon04:32
thingfishWhat kinds of things can one get from backports?04:32
musician"rosegarden4"  is a KDE application Can my hoary run KDE stuff? or only gnome stuff?04:32
thoreauputicmusician: you can apt-get it or use synaptic04:32
HappyFoolfirepol: was /boot mounted as / ?04:32
thingfishI mean, what is in backports?04:32
Fator_Deemusician: it can run both04:32
HappyFoolfirepol: there's no /dev directory in that case04:32
firepolhappyfool: no, /boot was mounbted as /boot04:32
thoreauputicmusician: it can run it - it just needs some libraries04:32
razIs there a way to give yourself root access (sudo) in nautilus? (filebrowser?..)04:32
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HappyFoolfirepol: did you try ls -l /dev/hda ?04:33
musicianthoreauputic, so every time i get a kde program, i need to download some extra libraries every time?04:33
thoreauputicmusician: synaptic will take care of the dependencies04:33
Fator_Deeraz: open nautilus with sudo04:33
justinXhyldazhK: you haven't actually told anyone what the error IS yet04:33
firepolhappyfool: i didnt try...04:33
thingfishraz: there might be, but don't do that.  Instead open a terminal, and then use sudo.04:33
thoreauputicmusician: and most of the libraries are shared , so no, not every time04:33
razthingfish, why not?04:33
HappyFoolfirepol: ok, you can also use grub's notation (i.e., (hd0,0))04:33
firepolhappyfool: ill try it, and ill try to mount a windows partitino jsut to see if it works, good idea04:33
HappyFoolfirepol: but it looks like you have to use quotes if you use that04:33
Shuddertrixmusician: apt gets them for you ;)04:34
HappyFoolfirepol: so   grub-install --root-directory=/boot '(hd0,0)'04:34
musicianthoreauputic, great to hear!04:34
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thingfishraz: it's just not considered a good practice.  You should learn to use the terminal.04:34
musicianShuddertrix, i'm loving linux.04:34
firepolhappyfool, ill try. thx. i wil lalso try to put grub on a floppy disk04:35
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XhyldazhKjustin: I can only login as root. I cannot run any process that changes momentarily to another user, I cannot log in as any user distinct of root If I login as a normal user, the login says to me 'permission denied'04:35
thoreauputicmusician: you can use timidity as a "server" for Rosegarden, but you will need to do some reading to  get that working04:35
Shuddertrixmusician: ah, yes, linux is easy to love ;)04:35
firepolhow can i format a floppy with linux?04:35
HappyFoolfdformat04:35
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thoreauputicmusician: if you have a decent sound card, that probably won't be necessary04:35
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andrewskican anyone answer why an expert ubuntu install doesn't set up sudo?04:35
XhyldazhKjustin: if i try 'su' it says to me 'no shell' and if I try 'su -' says to me permission denied again04:35
HappyFoolfirepol: well, you probably want mk32fs04:35
thingfishfirepol: Applications>System Tools>Floppy Formatter.04:36
HappyFoolfirepol: have you installed the grub docs ?04:36
HappyFoolmke2fs, even04:36
musicianwish i could convince my friend to "convert" to linux, but he makes some great points  about some programs only being on Windows OS. And he needs them for work, not just for personal stuff. For example, he told me of Pagemaker, and it not being in Linux. I told him that i think emulators like Wine will handle that kinda problem.04:36
ShuddertrixXhyldazhK: if you need a root shell, use sudo -s04:36
razWould that be the cmd to delete every file on the system containing the word 'mplayer'?: sudo rm *mplayer*.*04:36
musicianhow do i know what sound card i have, thoreauputic ?04:36
thoreauputicandrewski: presumably the assumption is thet experts can work it out ;)04:36
Fator_Deeraz: no, that would be not04:37
justinXhyldazhK: what does it say exactly.04:37
andrewskithoreauputic: was it you that told me that a few days ago?!04:37
HappyFoolfirepol: apt-get install grub-doc    and then    info grub    -- check out the installation section04:37
Fator_Deeraz: what are you doing exactly04:37
thoreauputicmusician: the lspci command will tell all04:37
firepolthingfish: thank you04:37
Shuddertrixmusician: Tell him about Codeweaver's Crossover office. It probably runs it ;)04:37
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razFator_Dee, delete all files off the partitions having the word mplayer in their file name04:37
thoreauputicandrewski: probably - tongue in cheek of course :)04:37
qiqoguys how will i modify nautilus?04:37
XhyldazhKjustin: I have not internet at home, I have to come to office to look for answers. I will try to reproduce the error on a laptop04:37
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razFator_Dee, *off the 'filesystem', sorry.04:37
wulfy814ok, simple one I think - I've created a drawer on my top panel with custom launchers for "gnome-terminal -x ssh domain.com"04:37
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HajuuHey04:38
wulfy814I wan to sync that drawer with my laptop04:38
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firepolhappyfool, thanks, and sorry, u r right i should RTFM before asking in chat ;)04:38
wulfy814where does gnome store this info?04:38
Amaranthhey, the 419 scammers have changed to using some russian incident now04:38
HajuuIs wine what people use to play windows games through linux these days, or is there something better?04:38
andrewskithoreauputic: well, i just wanted to customise my installation a bit, but i didn't like that it didn't set sudo up nor gave me the option to.  does that sound right?04:38
justinwulfy814: grep -r 'ssh domain.com'  ~04:38
HappyFoolfirepol: well, you can see the commands for yourself. and they have an example of a floppy boot disk04:38
Fator_Deeraz: you'd have to do it recursively, but I don't know if that's a brilliant idea, be ready to repair your system after :-p04:38
musicianthoreauputic, my soundcard is Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio . is this considered a "decent sound card"?04:38
thoreauputicandrewski: yeah, i agree it should give the option04:38
musicianthoreauputic, or is it even a sound card?04:39
razFator_Dee, why not?04:39
podgeraz : find . -name \*mplayer\* | xargs rm04:39
andrewskithoreauputic: so filing a bug wouldn't be a bad idea?04:39
wulfy814just: thanks (why didn't I think of that)04:39
thoreauputicmusician: I have no idea, and yes04:39
musiciani don't see soundgarden in my menu.04:39
razpodge, will that also remove the dirs 'mplayer' ?04:39
Amaranthmusician: try running it from a terminal04:39
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thoreauputicrosegarden4 - you have to install it04:40
Fator_Deeraz: typos, constellations and stars not in the right positions, black cat crossed the street...04:40
musiciani meant rosegarden, oops. Soundgarden does sound like a nice program name, though, wouldn't you say so?04:40
podgeraz : you will have to use "rm -fr" on the end to delete the directories..04:40
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thoreauputicah I see, sorry musician04:40
firepolhappyfool: thanks again, ill try checking hda to see if its detected by linux. then if its detected but it doesnt work in no way, i try to use a grub floppy04:40
razFator_Dee, tsk tsk tsk..04:40
Shuddertrixmusician: According to the crossover office compatibility section, pagemaker runs. There's hope for your friend, I think..04:40
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firepolhappyfool: im becoming crazy... yes it was better to reinstall ubuntu ;)04:40
HappyFoolSoundgarden sounds like a *great* name for a band... oh, wait04:40
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HappyFoolfirepol: heh. you'd be done by now ;)04:40
Delirus42anyone awake?04:40
thoreauputicmusician: typing "rosegarden" in a terminal should start it04:41
podgeraz : To only delete the files : find . -name \*mplayer\* -type f | xargs rm04:41
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firepolhappyfool: well, maybe ill reinstall... will i lose all my data if i install it again?04:41
andrewskiDelirus42: from the amount of activity on the channel, i'd say probably not. :P04:41
pepehi04:41
musicianShuddertrix, All right. I'll pass him the news. Just talked to him a while ago. He told me that he turns off his computer (win98 beaterbox) to prevent any hacking from his cable internet connection. I pity him.04:41
razpodge, is the '.' necessary before the ' -name'?04:42
andrewskiraz: yes04:42
razpft, weird syntax.04:42
HappyFoolfirepol: well, using the conventional install, i think you will. i assumed you hadn't done much on your system yet04:42
firepolhappyfool: i have several gigabytes of data, and i dont have time to lose to backup them on another HD. thatsh why i wnated to fix instead of reinstalling from scratch04:42
andrewskiraz: have you read the manpage?04:42
tbastenis there a front end for samber?04:42
tbastensamba?04:42
HappyFoolfirepol: ah04:42
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XhyldazhKHELP ME HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME I did a 'sudo checkinstall' to install Crystal Space CVS, but at the middle I did Ctrl+C, and from this moment I am not able to login as another user different of root, and any program that needs to change user to another user distinct of root fails in its execution, what can I do? I'm truly desperated...04:42
podgeraz : The . just means search from the current directory you can replace it with any directory.. find /home/raz     find /   find /tmp04:42
HappyFoolfirepol: sorry, in that case, i suppose reinstalling is a poor option04:42
thingfishtbasten: swat04:42
firepolhappyfool: the only solution i see is to split my actual partition, move my data to the other partition and reinstall...04:43
wulfy814justin: I located the "launchers" but all launchers are in the folder ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers04:43
Delirus42I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my mum's Dell, and the monitor craps out every time X starts up.  Can anyone help?04:43
wulfy814how do I get them to appear in a drawer04:43
justinXhyldazhK: no one is going to be able to help you if you are not actually near your computer04:43
firepolhappyfool: anyway id like to learn how to use grub... reinstalling is done by newbies, and i want to learn and become a pro ;)04:43
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XhyldazhKjustin: I will reproduce the error in a laptop here04:43
HappyFoolfirepol: heh04:44
N17R0Hi I know how I can install a program from source codes (compile) , but I don't know yet how to uninstall that program now? Anyone can tell me how to uninstall ?04:44
zenroxfirepol,  good boy04:44
firepolhappyfool: ;-) well so ill lose all my day but i want to fix this in the correct way, not simply by reinstalling .else id comnclude that grub sux, and i dont think grub sux...04:45
musician"The Rosegarden sequencer could not be started, so sound and recording will be unavaliable for this session."  Why can't the sequencer be started?04:45
linuksoStupid, but short question: When is Breezy scheduled for release?04:45
ivoksoctober04:45
podgeN17R0 : If you built from source.. you should be able to do a "make uninstall" in the source directory..04:45
linuksoivoks: thank!04:45
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ivoksbut, don't use it now..04:45
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firepolok, so cya later.... thx again for ur help04:45
ivoksi'm thinking about reinstalling hoary :/04:45
HappyFoolfirepol: ok. good luck04:46
N17R0podge: and if it aint there in the folder to make a "make uninstall" ?04:46
XhyldazhKjustin: I reproduced the error04:46
XhyldazhKpass by pass04:46
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thoreauputicmusician: you may be lacking some kernel modules that you need - does your sound card have a hardware wavetable or similar?04:46
razpodge, does getting 'permission denied' after a sudo means you didn't enter the pwd correctly?04:46
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ivoksno04:46
musicianthoreauputic, how can i tell?04:46
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razivoks, no?04:46
podgeN17R0 : If you built the source from scratch there has to be a Makefile in there somewhere.. ?04:46
flodinecan i use artwiz fonts in ubuntu04:47
thoreauputicmusician: hmm - hang on and I'll see if I can find some links to get you started04:47
HappyFoolyou get a "Sorry, try again" for a wrong password04:47
ivoksraz: if you typed wrong password it would write: Sorry, try again.04:47
razhmm.. what can deny access to sudo, then? :|04:47
XhyldazhKjustin: I did a 'sudo checkinstall' on a package and then ctrl-c the checkinstall when it said 'preparing package documentation'04:47
thoreauputicmusician: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo04:47
HappyFoolhas to be a permitted user04:47
ivoksraz: what you typed?04:47
podgeraz : if you are trying that "find" stuff then I suggest you sudo -s first.. then run the command..04:47
flodinewell04:47
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N17R0podge: hmm i think there is a Makefile yes, anyway thx for the info, i got try it tonight :P04:47
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thoreauputicmusician: and  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8736.html04:48
razivoks, this: sudo find . -name \*mplayer\* -type f | xargs rm04:48
razpodge, aight04:48
ivoksraz: there is a problem04:48
XhyldazhKhelp me pleasee!!04:48
ivoksraz: rm is runed as plain user, not root04:48
dcravenraz: Put a sudo after the xargs.04:48
XhyldazhKI cannot login04:48
thoreauputicmusician: it's all a bit arcane but if you persevere it works :)04:48
ivoksraz: don't do it like that04:48
XhyldazhKplease please please please help me04:48
ivoksraz: find . -name \*mplayer\* -type -f -exec rm -rf {} ';'04:49
dcravenXhyldazhK: What happens when you try to login?04:49
flodinesomeone help the man04:49
liableXhyldazhK: well, tell us whats wrong eh?04:49
XhyldazhKdcraven: I am on a console as root04:49
thoreauputicmusician: got those links?04:49
XhyldazhKI am on a console as root, I type 'su - xhyldazhk'04:49
musicianthoreauputic, the http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo page is about timidity, not about soundgarden. I'm not sure which part i should be reading...04:49
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XhyldazhKand both the console and the auth.log say04:49
podgeN17R0 : If there is a makefile.. and the makefile was written correctly.. you should be able to "make uninstall"04:49
razivoks, hmm, okay, but what is this for: {} ';'04:49
thoreauputicmusician: read both04:49
XhyldazhKthe console says 'Unable to cd to "/home/xhyldazhk"'04:50
thoreauputicmusician: you might need to run timidity as a 'server' for rosegarden04:50
ivoksraz: that's a syntax {} iz for every file it fined, and ';' is termination (IIRC)04:50
thoreauputicmusician: or fluidsynth04:50
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XhyldazhKthe auth.log says 'unable to cd to '/home/xhyldazhk' for user 'xhyldazhk'04:50
musicianthoreauputic, oh, rosegarden requires a "server"? it can't run on its own?04:50
N17R0podge: alright that sounds good, I hope it works :d04:50
XhyldazhKplease help me04:51
dcravenXhyldazhK: Does 'xhyldazhk' show up when you do a "ls /home"?04:51
liableXhyldazhK: try 'sudo su'04:51
thoreauputicmusician: it can if your sound card supports it04:51
ABRAXAS77N17R0, i know you...do u speak spanish?04:51
Delirus42HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP (way to get attention, sorry)  I'm setting up Ubuntu on my mum's Dell Dimension 2400 (17 in/ monitor), and the video craps out every time X tries to start.  Any ideas?04:51
CanibalCan somebody please help me config my internet using PPTP ?04:51
musicianYou mentioned, fluidsynth, thoreauputic. Which is better? which do you recommend: fluidsynth or timidity?04:51
N17R0nope04:51
ivoksraz: yeah, i was right...04:51
thoreauputicmusician: if it doesn't, you need software synth04:51
ivoksraz: man find, line 25904:51
XhyldazhKliable: as user 'xhyldazhk' i don't have any permission over any file04:51
thoreauputicmusician: I find timidity works better for me and uses less CPU04:51
razivoks, line 259?04:51
ivoksraz: yeah man find04:51
thoreauputicmusician: it's worth trying both04:52
razivoks, ubuntu manual?04:52
thoreauputicmusician: YMMV04:52
ivoksraz: then enter 259 and press shift g04:52
ivoksraz: no04:52
dcravenDelirus42: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lines beginning with an "(EE)". That's your error.04:52
ivoksraz: type in console man find04:52
XhyldazhKliable: as user 'root' it says 'sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: permission denied'04:52
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razivoks, okay, got it. thx.04:52
XhyldazhKdcraven: yes, the directory is here and all its files are there04:52
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musicianhow can i tell whether my sound card has that, or requires software synth? I think my sound card is not a high-tech one. My comp is a 4 year old workstation/office model.04:52
liableXhyldazhK: do it as a user not as root04:52
XhyldazhKliable: as an user I cant, it says 'bash: /usr/bin/sudo: permission denied'04:53
musicianymm04:53
ivokshehe04:53
justinXhyldazhK: ls -ld /04:53
ivoksXhyldazhK: new user?04:53
thoreauputicmusician: not sure, to be honest- I only set up midi stuff last week (hence my semi-familiarity with this stuff)04:53
dcravenXhyldazhK: Doesn't sound like a checkinstall error to me. heh04:53
razivoks, your cmd didnt work for me, tho..: find: invalid argument `-f' to `-type'04:53
Delirus42dcraven:  I don't think the software recognizes a problem, I think it's just that ubuntu is trying to start X at too high a resolution (or too high h/v sync ranges) for the monitor to deal with04:53
ivoksraz: find . -name \*mplayer\* -type f -exec rm -rf {} ';'04:54
XhyldazhKjustin: drwx------ 23 root root 4096 May 28 09:4004:54
Fator_DeeDelirus42: there should be an error about that too04:54
thoreauputicmusician: If your card supported it, it would probably "just work", but google might help you to find out04:54
musicianwhen i did the lspi whatever command, i didn't get any words like "soundblaster". Instead i got the word "intel". So i think my sound card is a part of my main intel processor....04:54
ivoksraz: one - too much :)04:54
Delirus42dcraven:  I tried doing the xorgconfig thing, but that made everything screw up entirely04:54
XhyldazhKdcraven: sudo checkinstall was that triggered all that mess04:54
razivoks, kay.. no sudo required, tho?04:54
justinXhyldazhK: well theres your problem, put it back to 75504:54
ivoksraz: depends where you delete it04:54
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ivoksraz: if it is in your home, then no sudo04:54
razivoks, can't i have it look over all the filesystem?04:55
thoreauputicmusician: probably "onboard" (on your mother board) but I don't know04:55
ivoksraz: if it is a system file then yes, with sudo04:55
XhyldazhKjustin: you just saved my life04:55
ivoksraz: why do you want to delete mplayer?04:55
flodinehow do i load artwiz fonts in gnome?04:55
XhyldazhKall you ubuntu users, I really really owe one to all you04:55
razivoks, clean up and reinstall it04:55
musicianthoreauputic, i think so, too. Coz the comp i'm using is not a for-home use, but rather for office use.04:55
Canibalcan some1 please help me config my internet connection ? :||||||||||||||04:55
XhyldazhKmy deepest thanks to all you04:55
musicianif we are right in our guessing, this means that we need software synth, right?04:55
ivoksraz: sudo dpkg --purge remove mplayer04:55
ivoksraz: that's much easier :)04:56
razivoks, i did, but some files are persistant...04:56
dcravenXhyldazhK: Just so you know, checkinstall did not do that.04:56
ivoksraz: no if you put --purge04:56
XhyldazhKdcraven: it was sudo?04:56
razivoks, sudo dpkg --purge remove mplayer04:56
thoreauputicmusician: do a bit of googling, that's what I did: but a lot of the stuff about linux midi is rather technical and hard to grasp (I find)04:56
razivoks, i followed some procedure, manual install..04:56
dcravenDelirus42: Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". That might help.04:56
ivoksraz: and what files left?04:56
thoreauputicmusician: you will definitely need to read some man pages04:56
ivoksraz: maybe that files aren't from mplayer package04:57
dcravenXhyldazhK: It was no doubt something you did as sudo, but likely not sudo itself.04:57
Delirus42dcraven: thanks tons   I might be back later if I screw everyting up again04:57
musicianthoreauputic, so i should do a googling with the words i found in the lspi results?04:57
dcravenDelirus42: Good luck.04:57
ivoksraz: don't delete manually system files, that can end up really bad04:57
musicianwhere are the manuals?04:57
thoreauputicmusician: that's a start, yes04:57
ivoksmusician: for what?04:57
razivoks, a few.. mplayer-586.postrm, mplayer.1 mplayer-586.list, etc, a few..04:57
thenukeis it safe to do apt-get remove postfix?04:57
robertjanyone know how to get cups to write to a pipe instead of to a file?04:57
musicianivoks, thoreauputic recommended i "read some man pages"04:57
ivoksmusician: man's are on your disk... man command04:57
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Delirus42if that doesn't help, I'd probably be best off editing xorg.conf manually than running xorgconfig04:57
thoreauputicmusician: the bits about modprobing drivwers in those howtos are important too04:58
XhyldazhKTHANKS TO ALL YOU ALL YOU ROCK!!!04:58
Delirus42thanks for the help guys, I'm out04:58
XhyldazhKbye!04:58
ivoksraz: lol04:58
razivoks, well, mplayer files, i don't think are crucial to system stability, are they?04:58
ivoksraz: thoose files are OK!04:58
dcravenXhyldazhK: Good bye.04:58
thoreauputicmusician: you type `man <programname>` in a terminal ;)04:58
razivoks, bah..04:58
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justinraz: what was this "manual install" that you did?04:58
ivoksraz: they are in /var/lib/dpkg...something, right?04:58
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razivoks, most, yes.04:59
ivoksraz: two advices:04:59
thoreauputicmusician: just so you know: man pages are rather terse and hard to follow at first04:59
razjustin, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106104:59
ivoksraz: never delete files in *lib* directory04:59
ivoksraz: NERVER EVER delete files in *lib* directory :)04:59
musicianthoreauputic, yes, i've loaded them up on the browser. right now i'm looking at the "archive" page.04:59
razivoks, aightydidelidou05:00
thoreauputicmusician: start by typing ` man timidity `05:00
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ivoksraz: those files in /var/lib/dpkg, they are important for installing package or deinstaling05:00
musicianthoreauputic, please disregard my last message about which files i was looking up.05:00
thoreauputicmusician: you usually have to read about 5 times before it makes sense ;-)05:00
ivoksraz: if you delete those files, installer will not know how to install or remove that package05:00
ivoksraz: it's a bit complicated, but you will understand it this way...05:01
razivoks, can't 'installer' get 'how to install' from the package itself?05:01
musicianthoreauputic, do i need to read the manual for timidity if i'm hoping to be running rosegarden?05:01
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Amaranthraz: Why not just sudo apt-get --purge remove mplayer?05:01
thoreauputicmusician: you don't *have* to - I suggest you do though05:01
razAmaranth, followed manual install..05:01
ABRAXAS77hello,im installing ubuntu...is my first time with this ssystem05:02
ivoksraz: that files are from package it self05:02
graabeinhi. anyone willing to help me with tv-out xorg.conf settings??05:02
Amaranthack05:02
ivoksraz: you don't have to delete them05:02
thoreauputicmusician: especially the "server" options05:02
ivoksraz: when you install new package, it will overwrite them05:02
ABRAXAS77graabein, i use xorg in slackware05:02
razivoks, aighty.05:02
justinraz: then how did you end up with mplayer files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ?05:02
ABRAXAS77what do u need to know graabein?05:02
razjustin, don't ask me :|.05:02
graabeinABRAXAS77, i want to watch movies on my telly. not clone but as screen #205:03
razjustin, prolly the old mplayer ubuntu install from synaptics05:03
ivoksjustin: you have them too :)05:03
dcravenraz: By 'manual', you don't mean "dpkg -i ..." do you?05:03
ABRAXAS77graabein, u can see in your tv all what is in your screen,is what u want ?05:03
graabeinABRAXAS77, i found a couple howto's but i got some error message... can't remember05:03
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AmaranthABRAXAS77: No, he wants it to treat it as a dual-monitor setup.05:03
razdcraven, dunno: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106105:03
razivoks, aight, thanks for all.05:04
justinivoks: _I_ have them because _I_ installed the mplayer packages.. i'm not the one saying anything different05:04
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ivoksjustin: well, he installed mplayer too :)05:04
ABRAXAS77i dont know graabein, Amaranth05:04
razivoks, have a nice day.05:04
musicianthoreauputic, should i go to intel's website to find out more about soundcard situation?05:04
graabeinanyone with the setup? nice if they could post the conf-file05:04
thoreauputicmusician: good idea05:04
ABRAXAS77why u use ubuntu?,why u think is better?,i want to know the diferences05:05
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graabeinABRAXAS77, my friend recommended it.. i wanted to try linux again...05:05
thoreauputicmusician: if you are keen to use rosegarden you might want to get a soundcard that supports its features easily05:05
graabeinABRAXAS77, especially when i got an internet connection. just say no to microsoft!05:05
ABRAXAS77graabein,  if u ask me,ill tell u slackware,but i dont know ubuntu,im installing it now05:05
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thoreauputicmusician: setting up software synth is a bit of a challenge unless you are rather determined05:06
musicianthoreauputic, i'm not sure yet whether i'm keen or not. However, it sure looks good!05:06
tbastenhow do i get swat to work?05:06
graabeinABRAXAS77, yeah, havent tried it myself... just tried ubuntu and a very old version of suse linux05:06
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ABRAXAS77graabein, try slackware,u will feel inlove with slack05:06
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graabeinABRAXAS77, hehe, maybe. im happy with ubuntu so far. dont feel the need to try other distros05:07
thoreauputicmusician: if you can live with a soundless rosegarden, try writing a simple melody with it and exporting it as midi, then play it with timidity05:07
robertjtry Ubuntu, you will do something other than mess with your computer all day05:07
robertj;)05:07
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logikIf you're on a laptop, does your a plugged in USB keyboard use the same keyboard layout as the integrated keyboard or are they separate?05:07
ABRAXAS77graabein, have u got experience with unix?05:07
thoreauputicmusician: that works, but is rather frustrating05:07
dcravenrobertj: That's all I do...05:07
musiciansounds so!05:07
ABRAXAS77I mean BSD or solaris graabein05:07
robertjhehe, dcraven: ok, so maybe not ;)05:07
dcraven:)05:07
graabeinABRAXAS77, we had unix at the university when i went to school some 7-8 years ago05:07
ABRAXAS77is better graabein?05:08
graabeinABRAXAS77, havnet tried bsd or solaris05:08
ABRAXAS77ah05:08
AmaranthABRAXAS77: Can you change your nick please? I keep seeing all caps and thinking someone is shouting.05:08
thoreauputicmusician: it's worth doing the work - rosegarden enables you to compose your own midis05:08
Amaranthgraabein: Slackware is only good if you know how to do linux administration.05:08
ABRAXAS77I dont understand u Amaranth,but i can change my nick,which nick u want?05:08
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graabeinAmaranth, ok. some way down the road for me then...05:08
musicianthoreauputic, sounds great.05:08
AmaranthABRAXAS77: The same nick but lowercase would be good.05:08
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ABRAXAS77Amaranth, lowercase?,you mean abraxas77?05:09
Amaranthgraabein: If you don't have problems with Ubuntu now you probably won't when you get to the point where you could run Slackware. :)05:09
AmaranthABRAXAS77: Yeah.05:09
thingfishABRAXAS77: all caps is generally in IRC considered to be shouting, and rude.05:09
thoreauputicmusician: I just wish it ws easier ;/05:09
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thoreauputic*was05:09
thingfish:)05:09
abraxas77thingfish, caps is mayus?05:09
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dcravenabraxas77: Much better.05:09
musicianthoreauputic, is it safe to jump to the conclusion that my computer does not have a dedicated sound card and uses its motherboard to make music? is it safe to conclude this... or will jumping this step mess up proceeding ones?05:09
graabeinAmaranth, ill stay with ubuntu for the time being. i like it alot!05:09
thingfishabraxas77: caps=CAPS05:09
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abraxas77ah,now i understood05:10
reminhas anyone got Jahshaka to work on ubuntu??05:10
thingfishabraxas77: short for capitals05:10
abraxas77yes05:10
musicianthoreauputic, i have a hunch it is. (i.e. needs software synth).05:10
thoreauputicmusician: it won't mess it up: you just will do unecessary work05:10
thoreauputicmusician: it probably does, given the error you got on running rosegarden05:10
musiciancoz trying to google for info on my audio is such work.05:10
thoreauputicie needs softare synth05:11
thoreauputic*software05:11
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musicianyes. and i think, too, that intel doesn't make any dedicated sound cards, at least not in the year that my computer was built (3-4 years ago).05:11
thingfishif you're going to be doing major audio stuff with your computer, you need a real soundcard, not an integrated intel AC'97 chip on your motherboard.05:11
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Shuddertrixmusician: if you're serious about music, then you should probably get a nice sound card05:12
thingfishyou can pick up an sblive or audigy for not too much these days.05:12
thoreauputicmusician: I believe soundblaster cards are fairly cheap and support midi ( this needs checking ;) )05:12
thingfishthey do05:12
thingfishand are05:12
musicianthingfish, thanks for your message. So we can conclude then that my computer is IN FACT a computer that doesn't have hardware sound features, yes?05:12
Shuddertrixthoreauputic: My pci128 works fine with midi, great stereo output05:13
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Shuddertrixmusician: correct05:13
thingfishmusician: yes, you have an integrated chip on the motherboard.  Those are notorious under linux.05:13
thoreauputicShuddertrix: great! I think I will be investing in a decent soundcard ASAP05:13
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musicianNotorious? in what way? Do you mean notorious in the sense of setting up the software, of needing to read the ubuntu wikis and ubuntu howtos?05:14
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thoreauputicmusician: on board sound is not well supported , in general05:14
thoreauputicmusician: reading the wikis and howtos is still a good idea, BTW05:15
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thoreauputicmusician: in fact reading is the key to a lot of Linux problems and knowledge, of course05:15
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DunkMasteryo05:16
musiciani was able to play midis with timidity, (and frozen bubble sounds great), so i'm not really sure what you mean about integrated-chip-on-motherboard not being well-supported...05:16
nihaoreal player issue: the RPM (rp10) I downloaded from real.com doesn't match the one specified in Ubuntu realplay installer (rp8)05:16
nihaoI tried by renaming the RPM, installation failed. anyone knows how to do it?05:17
^thehatsrule^... use a .deb nihao05:17
DunkMasterhello, AYTTM gives me this error when i try to connect MSN: Unable to connect MSN HTTPS Server (bad cookies)05:18
tbastenanyone know much about SWAT?05:18
thenuketbasten: what do you want to know about05:18
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Shuddertrixnihao: use the installer that realplayer provides or use alien to convert the rpm to deb05:19
thingfishtbasten: I know it exists, never used it though.05:19
DunkMasterso my question is if there are other MSN clients avaliable on atp-get (exept aMSN) or how can i fix this problem05:19
nickrud_nihao the realplayer installer works well with ubuntu, it's about the only one I've tried that does.05:19
musicianthoreauputic, hopefully, there will be less reading time necessary for the enduser. This then will make it easier for windows users to make the leap into linux.05:20
nickrud_nihao install it in opt, for example05:20
CredHello. Could someone help me to get my USB microphone to work?05:20
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thoreauputicmusician: it's getting better. Ubuntu is an example of the improvement05:20
abraxas77is normal that after installation tghe ubuntu take a lot of time to start the first time?,he say me is unpacketing all05:20
abraxas77unpacking*05:20
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DunkMasteryes it is05:21
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tbastenthenuke, i want to know how to get it started05:21
abraxas77ah05:21
musicianthoreauputic, yes, ubuntu is great. my first (and as of yet, my only) linux distro.05:21
thoreauputicmusician: a few years ago linux was much more difficult for new users05:21
DunkMasterit took me 2.5 hours to install05:21
tbastenthenuke, i type it into the terminal and it just sits there doing nothing05:21
DunkMasterand its real slow machine05:21
musicianthoreauputic, i hear. a few years ago, i hear, you had to know the parts of your computer. Now installation is a breezy breeze.05:21
HappyFoolwell, except when it doesn't work05:22
ShuddertrixDunkMaster: try kopete, gaim, one of those multi-protocol clients for msn.05:22
nihaonickrud_: can you tell me the details? I am a new bie :-)  your installer is  the .rpm, OR .BIN?05:22
thoreauputicmusician: Installing Debian used to be a rite of passage :)05:22
DunkMasterty Shuddertrix05:22
nickrud_nihao the bin05:22
thenuketbasten: I thought you are talking about the SWAT game:)05:22
Shuddertrixnihao: use the .bin file to install it05:22
Lafitte-musician, alot fo hardware brezy  some not05:22
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nickrud_nihao in a terminal, cd to the directory where it is05:22
tbastenthenuke, lol05:23
musicianLafitte-, pardon?05:23
sebastianhi, I was wondering if someone could help me, I never used linux(ubuntu) before and I can't install new programs. It says that I need to run as root or something like that. can someone help me?05:23
Shuddertrixlaunch it up in a terminal and you're installing it, huzzah.05:23
Lafitte-thoreauputic,  sarge still is05:23
Shuddertrixsebastian: sudo apt-get install whatever05:23
logikIf you're on a laptop, does your a plugged in USB keyboard use the same keyboard layout as the integrated keyboard or are they separate?05:23
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sebastianthanks05:23
thoreauputicLafitte-: I've installed Sarge, and it's a lot easier than Woody !05:23
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Shuddertrixsebastian: or, System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager05:23
Lafitte-musician,  you said installing linux is a breezy breeze   i has  alot fo hardware   not all05:23
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nihaonickrud, Shuddertrix: I see. thanks! but, does this bring inconsistency to dependency database by synaptic?05:24
Lafitte-thoreauputic,   still to this day   sarge doesnt install well to my laptop   but Ubuntu has fixed that :)05:24
thoreauputicmusician: I think he means if you are lucky Linux finds your hardware, but not always :)05:24
nickrud_nihao: no, it's installed completely separaratly, that's why I put it in /opt05:24
sebastianok, great, I'll come back if I can't get it to work05:24
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Lafitte-musician,  yes thats what i meant05:25
cornethow can i share mounted disks over samba (external usb devices) under guest user, hal mounts them with permissions -rwx------ so i suspect i need to get hal to mount using different permissions05:25
nihaonickrud: ok, now I will try. thanks.05:25
tbastenOk, what is a GUI frontend for samba05:25
thoreauputicLafitte-: yes, Ubuntu installed very easily for me too ( on ppc and i386)05:25
musicianLafitte-, i'm sorry to hear of your problem installing hoary.05:25
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Lafitte-musician,   hoary     no dude  this works fine   im talking about straight up debian  install05:26
sijmenthoreauputic, what ppc?05:26
thoreauputictbasten: swat i think05:26
musicianLafitte-, ah.05:26
thoreauputicsijmen: ibook G4 - only problem is wireless05:26
musicianLafitte-, i comprehend.05:26
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sijmenthoreauputic, yes, that's what i understood earlyer05:27
Lafitte-musician,  i put linux down for 2 years because of lack of hardware support         so im very pleased with ubuntu :)05:27
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HappyFooltbasten: have you gotten swat working?05:27
tbastennah05:27
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tbastenit just sits there05:27
Lafitte-anyone using breezy yet ?05:27
musicianLafitte-, i've only jumped into linux this month, and i'm rather pleased, as well. 8) 8) 8)05:27
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HappyFooltbasten: you're aware you need to connect to it via a web-browser ?05:27
DunkMasterLafitte- not me05:28
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tbastenno... how do i do that?05:28
Lafitte-DunkMaster,  it broke my system   grin05:28
DunkMasteroh05:28
HappyFooltbasten: try browsing to http://localhost:90105:28
DunkMasternot good05:28
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Cycrohello05:28
Lafitte-DunkMaster,    heh   no  it wasnt   i had full redo on laptop after that05:28
tbastenHappyFool, could not connect to host05:29
Cycroi just installed ubuntu, can ne1 answer some questions?05:29
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DunkMasterLafitte- oh05:29
cornetactually solved it05:29
HappyFooltbasten: have you started the swat service ? (i don't have it installed here, so i can't test it)05:29
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thoreauputicCycro: just ask05:29
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tbastenHappyFool, i dont know how to start it :S05:29
thoreauputicCycro: don't ask to ask :)05:29
Lafitte-ubuntuguide.org  has an upgrade directions there   but says  thi smight break your system05:29
HappyFooltbasten: i'm guessing it'll be 'sudo /etc/init.d/swat start', or something05:29
sijmentbasten, sudo /etc/init.d/swat start05:29
Lafitte-of course i had to take the challenge   heh e05:29
bzbblast night, I setup fglrx, however, fgl_glxgears won't run05:30
Cycrowhen i download something from the synaptic package manager, where do the files go?05:30
HappyFoolthen try that URL again05:30
tbastensudo: /etc/init.d/swat: command not found05:30
novaflarebrb reboot05:30
HappyFoollet me see how big the install is... one moment05:30
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DunkMasterLafitte- redoing the system can be a pain in the ass, if your machine is pretty slow05:30
thoreauputicCycro: various places - all of them right :)05:30
DunkMasteri had to reinstall ubuntu once05:30
DunkMastertook over 2.5 hours05:30
DunkMasterlol05:30
nickrudCycro the deb package will go into /var/cache/apt/archives05:30
HappyFooltbasten: if you're willing to wait a few minutes, i can install it05:30
sgtbashhi05:31
tbastenok05:31
Lafitte-DunkMaster,   yeah   my laptop is not slow     but   all the fixes for Ubuntu and add ons take awhile05:31
tbastenHappyFool, just let me know05:31
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DunkMasterLafitte- well that machine is 200MMX so its good it took only 2.5 hours. lol05:31
HappyFooltbasten: hrm. eta of download is 20 min.05:31
nickrudCycro to find the commands from the package, dpkg -L | grep bin05:31
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sgtbashanybody knows how i could compile cedegacvs on ubuntu amd64 hoary 5.04? -05:31
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tbastenHappyFool, :P05:32
tbastenHappyFool, dialup?05:32
scytheit took me a couple of hours yesterday to dl and install a system plus upgrade over broadband on my laptop05:32
Lafitte-DunkMaster,     wow    since slowest speed recomended is 300mhz i think    hehe05:32
HappyFooltbasten: indeed05:32
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abraxas77fucking ubuntu, he doesnt asked me password of root and now i cant put it,what can i do?05:32
HappyFooltbasten: our local telcomonopoly has priced adsl out of the range of mere mortals05:33
sijmenabraxas77, you can sudo :)05:33
musicianhow do i get out of a man? and still stay in the terminal?05:33
sijmenthe first user you create has all rights for sudo, iirc05:33
sijmenos x style :)(05:33
tbastenHappyFool, :S05:33
Lafitte-abraxas77,  start not useing f-words in channel05:33
DunkMasterLafitte- im a hero, i ran Mandrake 10.0 on KDE05:33
abraxas77sudo?05:33
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rimmerhey, I have troubles installing application from sourcecode, can anyone help me out?05:33
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Lafitte-DunkMaster,   hehe05:33
abraxas77ok,ok,dont be angry05:33
DunkMaster:P05:33
Lafitte-abraxas77,  never05:33
abraxas77is there solution?05:33
DunkMasteri like gnome more05:33
Burgundaviarimmer, why application?05:34
Lafitte-abraxas77,    you can set the root password05:34
tbastenAnyknow use trannset?05:34
scythemy system still asks for a pwd when i sudo05:34
abraxas77Lafitte-, how?05:34
abraxas77single root?05:34
cccscythe: it should05:34
sijmenscythe, enter your user password05:34
scythei just use the same password as my user..... works05:34
Lafitte-abraxas77,   ill get the command05:34
HappyFooltbasten: try 'dpkg -L swat|grep /etc/init.d/'05:34
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danboidhi!05:34
HappyFoolscythe: that's how it's supposed to work05:34
tbastenHappyFool, nothing05:35
scythei misunderstood what you meant when you said the first user you create has all access to sudo05:35
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm setting up ubuntu on a secondary pc and its freezing when Setting the system clock using the hardware clock as reference... any ideas to fix that ?05:35
Creddmesg says it sees the new USB device, how can I map that device to be a microphone?05:35
scythei prefer it that way05:35
danboidHas anyone produced a script to sort out Hoary's problems with removable discs yet?05:35
Lafitte-abraxas77, sudo passwd root05:35
HappyFooltbasten: hrm05:35
rimmercan someone help me install this: http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/vyqchat/vyqchat-0.2.7.tar.gz05:35
Shuddertrixdanboid: what problem?05:35
scythewhat is that problem danboid05:35
tbastenwhen i type http://localhost:901/ into my browser it says connection refused05:35
HappyFooltbasten: ok, i'll get back to you in 16 minutes ;)05:35
tbastenkk05:36
thingfishand I thought Abraxas came out sometime in the 60's, didn't it?05:36
thingfishhehe05:36
rimmeranyone? please?05:36
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abraxas77Lafitte-, thank u very much05:36
danboidoptical and USB discs don't work properly on every single machine I've installed Hoary (kubuntu)05:36
Lafitte-abraxas77,  that work :)05:36
abraxas77ubuntu looks nice05:36
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abraxas77yes05:37
Lafitte-abraxas77,  it is nice    Hey05:37
danboidthere is always a number of problems05:37
thingfishnewbie: you should try to avoid installing from source on a debian-based system if you can help it.05:37
tbastenHappyFool, cant cant even view http://127.0.0.105:37
Lafitte-abraxas77,    check here   www.ubuntuguide.org05:37
newbiethingfish why?05:37
HappyFooltbasten: you'll need to install apache for that05:37
Lafitte-abraxas77,   alot of how too there  and certain fixes05:37
HappyFooltbasten: ports are only available if services are listening on them05:37
scytheive got a sony drx720UL usb dvd drive... it works fine, except for the whole hotplug thing (it doesnt, but not an issue for me)05:37
thingfishnewbie: because during install it can overwrite system files and there's no way for dpkg and apt-get to account for the changes made.05:38
HappyFooltbasten: and by default, ubuntu doesn't have all that many network services running05:38
newbiehm ok so can you help me with installing from debian binary ?05:38
thingfishnewbie: look for what you want in Synaptic, instead.05:38
tbastenHappyFool, i have apache installed05:38
Shuddertrixand remember, all the good applications provide a debian or rpm package that you can use with any distro using apt (use alien for rpm conversion)05:39
newbiethingfish: so should I use binary instead ?05:39
tbastenHappyFool, got it05:39
tbastenHappyFool, just cant get swat working.. i wait for u05:39
thingfishnewbie: you should use a .deb if one is available.05:39
newbieok I have .deb file, what now ?05:39
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HappyFooltbasten: apache needs to be running05:39
Shuddertrixnewbie: apt-get install whatever, dpkg --install whatever-1.0.deb05:39
scythedoes anyone know of a good vpn program or a gui for pptp05:39
thingfishnewbie: and ideally, one made for ubuntu.05:39
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thingfishnewbie: dpkg -i packagename.deb05:40
Echelon-Hhi05:40
newbieok thanks...05:40
Shuddertrixor one made for Debian sid/sarge. Those seem to work fine with ubuntu, at least for me.05:40
Hoxzer^^Do you guys know any BT client that supports that I can choose what part of torrent I wan't to download?05:40
thingfishdo they, I haven't tried that Shuddertrix.05:40
abraxas77hey,is there anybody from Israel/Palestine here?05:40
cccHoxzer^^: Azureus05:40
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ShuddertrixHoxzer^^: I don't think there is any bittorrent client that can handle that05:41
Fator_DeeShuddertrix: azureus can05:41
Echelon-His there anyway I can delete the data from mysql-admin?05:41
ShuddertrixAzureus uses some weird way of doing it that's not the greatest. I used it once and it corrupted the files.05:41
Echelon-HIt's trying to read from CD that's not there anymore and the program always crashes05:41
Echelon-Hreinstalling won't help.05:41
cccShuddertrix: works perfect for me05:42
newbieI have errors, can anyone help me ? please PM me someone and I will paste him details05:42
newbieplease05:42
abraxas77ubuntu havent mcedit??!!!05:42
Fator_DeeShuddertrix: works perfect for me too :-/05:42
abraxas77newbie, what is ur problem?05:42
ShuddertrixAnyways, it's probably been fixed since that was on a older version. I don't use azureus anyways, way too bloated05:42
Fator_DeeShuddertrix: not bloated on my opinion :-p05:42
Fator_DeeShuddertrix: works great with my old comp too05:43
Hoxzer^^Hmm.... seems like my internet with my linux comp is suddenly not working. Any ideas with might be the problem?05:43
ShuddertrixAnything that uses Java to me, is very bloated.05:43
rob_afkooh thunar shiny!05:43
thoreauputicabraxas77: install mc05:43
DunkMasterthank you all05:43
DunkMasterbye05:43
ShuddertrixIt has too many features for me ;)05:43
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rg58smahi05:44
rg58smasomeone use "airsnort"05:44
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thoreauputicnewbie: you can paste your errors on pastebin.ubuntu.com and give us the url05:44
andrewskirob_afk: are you using it?05:44
scythenm my last question05:45
Hoxzer^^how I can re get my IP's from DHCP?05:45
andrewskiHoxzer^^: /etc/init.d/networking restart, IIRC05:45
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Echelon-Hanyone knows how can I remove a program COMPLETLY?05:46
rg58smasomeone use "airsnort"05:46
Fator_DeeHoxzer^^: cable not connected? someone in the line of wlan signal :-p05:46
tbastenHappyFool, i sorta working05:46
andrewskirg58sma: don't repost.  instead, maybe rephrase your question.05:46
BurgundaviaEchelon-H, mark for complete removal in synaptic05:46
rg58smasomeone use "airsnort"???05:46
rob_afkandrewski: Im looking at it05:46
rob_afktheres not a lot to use now05:46
HappyFooltbasten: ah-ha?05:46
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Echelon-HI am using xfce, where can I find synaptic?05:47
Hoxzer^^Fator: well it says that cable is connected and it is05:47
HappyFoolheh. that's a rephrased question05:47
andrewskirobertj: true.  looks freaking sweet though, eh?05:47
BurgundaviaEchelon-H, just run it, gksduo synaptic05:47
robertjandrewski: well its a good idea05:47
andrewskiEchelon-H: it's not in the menus.05:47
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Hoxzer^^anyway lan isn't working too ://05:47
robertjI think we'd be better if they just forked nautilus05:47
tbastenHappyFool, need to make the /etc/init.d/swat file myself and add a line into /etc/services/05:47
Echelon-Hhas anyone ever tried gmailfs?05:47
sijmenrobertj, i missed something, who are 'they'?05:47
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andrewskiEchelon-H: what is it?05:48
Burgundaviarobertj, you talking Ubuntu devs?05:48
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HappyFooltbasten: swat's already in /etc/services05:48
Fator_Deesijmen: "they", the developers05:48
robertjBurg: no, just Thunar in general05:48
rg58smasomeone use "airsnort"???05:48
robertjI'm not even sure a fork would be needed05:48
andrewskiEchelon-H: regarding synaptic, see https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1075205:48
Burgundaviarobertj, oh05:48
REdsdoes any one know howto make gnome save window places in hoary05:48
REdsi cant get it to remember the last window place were the app was05:48
andrewskiREds: devilspie or wmctrl.05:48
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HappyFooltbasten: try grep swat /etc/services05:48
Echelon-Handrewski, thats making your gmail a filesystem05:49
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tbastenHappyFool, it wasnt there05:49
tbastenHappyFool, i had to add it05:49
andrewskiEchelon-H: i thought so.  you do realize that's in violation of gmail's terms of service, right?05:49
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Echelon-Handrewski, it is?05:49
azadhi there.. i lost my graphical surface! and "startx" doesn't work.. doesn't find the command05:49
HappyFooltbasten: hrm. you're running hoary on i386, right ?05:49
andrewskiEchelon-H: uh, yeah.05:49
Echelon-Handrewski, weird. why?05:49
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Fator_DeeEchelon-H: 'cause they say so?05:50
andrewskiEchelon-H: well, it's an email service, not filespace.05:50
Pop_pa_FrEaKhey HappyFool could you help me when you get a chance ?05:50
Echelon-HFator_Dee, they do?05:50
tbastenHappyFool, yeah05:50
ShuddertrixEchelon-H: It was due to abuse05:50
robertjthe bottom line about Thunar's UI is "Yes, it's okay to steal from Finder"05:50
Pop_pa_FrEaKor even Fator_Dee you ?05:50
Echelon-Harrrg, even with complete removal i still got this problem.05:50
andrewskiEchelon-H: and while they give you 2 gigs, if every user aggressively filled it up, they probably wouldn't be able to offer that.05:50
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm setting up ubuntu on a secondary pc and its freezing when Setting the system clock using the hardware clock as reference... any ideas to fix that ?05:50
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: depends on what is the problem05:50
HappyFoolPop_pa_FrEaK: ask the question in channel05:50
ShuddertrixSomeone hacked up a python script to link together many gmail accounts to get a big drive. Don't ask me how.. but it was done..05:50
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: if I can, I will05:50
azadany idea, anyone?05:51
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andrewskiazad: what about 'Xorg'05:51
tbastenHappyFool, do i need to install xinetd,05:51
Echelon-Hanyone of you guys knows how can I delete the data of mysql-admin?05:51
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HappyFooltbasten: i don't think so. it's not a dependency05:52
Echelon-Hit just always makes this problem. I need to delete cache or something.05:52
azadah that's it.. -.- but still doesn't work andrewski, Fatal server error05:52
andrewskiazad: then something's messed up in your config.05:52
HappyFoolPop_pa_FrEaK: just a sec05:52
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mojohappy saturnday!05:53
azadcould not open defaucould not open default font 'fixed' it says05:53
HappyFoolPop_pa_FrEaK: maybe disabling the hwclock.sh script in /etc/init.d will help05:53
Echelon-Hanyone?05:53
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andrewskiazad: sorry, i don't honestly know.05:53
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cerius\join ubuntu-de05:53
azadokay, thanks anyway :)05:54
Pop_pa_FrEaKhappy fool this is freezing when doing the first initial setup05:54
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thoreauputiccerius: heh - this isn't windows :)05:54
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andrewskiazad: don't give up though; there are others here who could probably help.05:54
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thoreauputiccerius:  /join #ubuntu-de05:54
azadi won't05:55
azadwould be too much traffic to reinstall ;)05:55
mojoazad, where do you get the font problem?05:55
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azadmojo: when i boot or "Xorg"05:55
mojoazad, you looked in the xorg log file in /var/logs?05:55
azadno05:56
azadlet me see05:56
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HappyFooltbasten: hrm. well, i've installed swat but it is not obvious how it works! :)05:56
Echelon-Hwhere do programs usually store data?05:56
tbastenHappyFool, how it going05:56
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Fator_DeeEchelon-H: depends on the data05:56
mojoi had a prob when i first switched from xfree86 to xorg, as i was upgrading warty to hoary.  been a while but i think i found something i just needed to apt-get install05:56
phanterhello. I just installed sphinx and festival. But how d i get speech recognition to work now?05:56
azadhm mojo, what to look for?05:56
mojoazad, um, lemme see... bbiaf05:57
Echelon-HFator_Dee, some stuff of the mysql-admin05:57
Fator_Deeazad: anything with EEs05:57
tbastenHappyFool, ?05:57
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Echelon-HFator_Dee, and I don't mean the Mysql data. I mean mysql-admin data05:57
andrewskiazad: see, there you go! :)05:57
HappyFooltbasten: is your samba running ?05:57
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azad:)05:57
tbastenyeah05:57
azadFator_Dee: you mean (EE) or sth in the beginning of a line?05:57
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Fator_Deeazad: EE means error05:57
Fator_Deeazad: and it's on the beginning of the line05:58
mojoazad: yeah, just what Fator_Dee said... look for the (EE) lines...05:58
azadwhat does WW mean?05:58
Fator_Deewarning :-p05:58
mojoWarning. They are listed near the top of the file.05:58
Fator_Dee(obvious eh?)05:58
_jimhi guys, just installed ubuntu for my dad, got everything working ok, but i have to manually do /sbin/route add default gw 10.2.2.3 all the time05:58
azadyah, if you know it it is ;)05:58
_jimwhich isn't really ok for my dad05:58
mojoMarkers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,05:58
mojo(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,05:58
mojo(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.05:58
azadwell i have some wornings here05:58
_jimwhere can i add this perminately05:58
Fator_Deeazad: well, E like an error and W like a warning :-p05:59
andrewskiJim: open the networking control program.05:59
azadthe directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc doesn't exist ....05:59
azadthanks ;)05:59
_jimandrewski: yeh tried that...it doesn't save the settings05:59
HappyFooltbasten: i think you were right about inetd05:59
thoreauputic_jim: /etc/network/interfaces I think05:59
andrewskijim: 'network-admin' it's called. :)05:59
rmflaggAfter I login, what does gdm start to load?05:59
Fator_Deeazad: reinstall fonts?05:59
_jimandrewski: yes, tried that...It didn't save the change...05:59
Fator_Deeazad: I remember I had an error like that a while ago too, you might try to reconfigure xorg too05:59
mojoaz, fator, yeah... 1 sec az and i'll tell you which font pkgs i have installed...05:59
andrewskijim: did you select the default gateway device at the bottom?06:00
_jimthoreauputic: thanks i'll have a look06:00
tbastenGot it06:00
tbasteni think06:00
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_jimandrewski: yes...its ok, i am not new...just new to debian systems..06:00
_jimnot sure where debian stores stuff06:00
andrewskijim: i don't expect that you're new; i had the same problems when i switched to ubuntu. :)06:00
tbastenHappyFool, its trying to load a page but its just sitting there06:01
mojoazad: START with xfonts-base06:01
azadhm06:01
HappyFooltbasten: don't you get a username/password prompt ?06:01
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tbastennah not yet06:02
mojoazad: also maybe xfonts-scaleable, xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi06:02
azadFator_Dee: how to reinstall fonts? (somehow that sounds stupid o.O)06:02
tbastenits just hanging there06:02
HappyFooltbasten: try 'netstat -lnt'06:02
thoreauputic_jim: man interfaces might help too06:02
Fator_Deeazad: sudo apt-get install06:02
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HappyFooltbasten: you should see a line like this: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:901             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN06:02
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Fator_Deeazad: and in the end you put what to install06:02
azadhaha :P06:02
tbastenHappyFool, tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:901             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN06:02
mojoazad: apt-get install packagename06:03
HappyFoolwell, that's a start06:03
azadi know the apt-get command.. at least parts of it ;)06:03
HappyFooltbasten: but when you connect, nothing ?06:03
azadwell.. i'll look for the package name then06:03
mojoazad: if they are already installed, try apt-get remove package then apt-get install package to reinstall06:03
Fator_Deeazad: mojo said them06:03
scytheneed some help... what is the default url for outlook web access ... XX.yourdomain.com06:03
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mojoazad: 1st try xfonts-base06:03
tbastenHappyFool, yeah, just says "Connecting to www.localhost.com..."06:03
azadah06:04
azadwell.. newest version, it tells06:04
HappyFooltbasten: that's not right ;)06:04
tbastenyeah06:04
HappyFooltbasten: try http://127.0.0.1:901 ?06:04
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rmflaggI have a GDM question...can someone help?06:04
tbastennope06:04
Shuddertrixrmflagg: don't ask to ask, just ASK06:04
HappyFooltbasten: now what happens ?06:04
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rmflaggI did and no one answered...just checking that someone can read it...06:05
tbastenHappyFool, "The document contains no data"06:05
Shuddertrixquestion again, then06:05
mojoazad: 'sudo apt-get remove xfonts-base'  then 'sudo apt-get install xfonts-base' for starters06:05
HappyFooleish06:05
rmflaggAfter I login with GDM, of course, what does GDM start running from there?06:05
ligowsjust wondering if you guys have a firewall. I'm thinking of getting firestarter (www.fs-security.com). Is this kind of security necessary for Ubuntu users?06:05
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ShuddertrixWhatever is needed for your session06:05
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Fator_Deeazad: or you can do sudo apt-get --reinstall packagename06:06
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HappyFooltbasten: try killing your browser, and then restarting samba and inetd06:06
ShuddertrixLike, for gnome, gnome-session, or for KDE, startkde, or XFCE, i believe it is startxfce but I'm not sure06:06
tbastenkk06:06
LinuxJonesligows, not necessary but it has some nice features06:06
azadah okay06:06
HappyFooltbasten: that's a bit of a longshot though06:06
psychey, im trying to install xmms in ubuntu 5.04 (amd64), but  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports isnt working....06:06
azadthanks, i'll try that now06:06
mojoFator_Dee: --reinstall ... cool, didn't know that one LOL06:06
ligowslinuxjones, what features do you like?06:06
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psycanyone know why ?06:06
Fator_Deemojo: the almighty man just told me06:06
rmflaggI installed Fluxbox and I want to start some other programs before running Flux and I can't find out what script it's running.06:06
Kartagishello06:07
ligowswhat features are good to have? I hear Linux is safe. So what would be the point of a firewall?06:07
ra21virmflagg:- ./.xinitrc06:07
Shuddertrixrmflagg: perhaps #fluxbox knows. surely that is a channel.06:07
darkauditpsyc: check ubuntuforums... that URL is no longer in use... use one of the mirrors06:07
tbastennope06:07
Fator_Deeligows: to restrict access of some services06:07
LinuxJonesligows, you can setup Internet Connection Sharing and a very nice Graphical Display showing when someone does a portscan or the like on your machine06:07
tbastenHappyFool, still nothing06:07
jiyuu0UbuntuGuide 3.00 is out (http://ubuntuguide.org)06:07
azadagh06:07
KartagisI'm having telnet problems, can you help me?06:07
azadcould not open default font 'fixed'06:08
rmflaggNo, this seems to change from distro to distro06:08
psycdarkaudit, thanks, in ubunut pages, doesnt say that06:08
psychttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormatsPT06:08
HappyFooltbasten: hm. well, it's working here06:08
darkauditpsyc: there was a post in the backports section of ubuntuforums yesterday06:08
ra21vianyone know how to change my resolution to 800x600 on on-board 845GV06:08
HappyFooltbasten: what's the line in your inetd.conf file look like ?06:08
mojoazad, try the xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-scaleable packages06:08
HappyFooltbasten: i just had to uncomment a line in that file06:08
tbastenswat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/local/samba/sbin/swat swat06:08
mojoazad: if those don't work then maybe we need to look into your xorg.log a little deeper06:08
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tbastenHappyFool, thats all on 1 line06:09
ligowsis there a list of differences b/w the new version of ubuntuguide and the previous?06:09
KartagisTrying 192.168.1.2...06:09
KartagisConnected to 192.168.1.2.06:09
KartagisEscape character is '^] '. <--- this is where it freezes06:09
Fator_Deeazad: can you paste your xorg.conf to pastebin?06:09
Shuddertrixligows: Click the link "changelog" at the top.06:09
HappyFooltbasten: mine looks different06:09
Echelon-Hanyone knows what's the site to check the HTML?06:09
Fator_Deeazad: or put it up somewhere so I could take a look at it06:09
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tbastenpast yours06:09
HappyFooltbasten: swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat06:09
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azadFator_Dee: never used an non-graphical browser06:09
KartagisEchelon-H: check what?06:09
Echelon-Hnvm06:09
azadlet me see the other fonts first06:09
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HappyFooltbasten: after editing /etc/inetd.conf, restart inetd06:10
tbastenHappyFool, is there a # in the front of it?06:10
mojoFator_Dee: pastebin???06:10
HappyFoolno06:10
Fator_Deeazad: ok, after you've tried reinstalling those, try to reconfigure the xserver06:10
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HappyFoola '#' is a comment06:10
rmflaggra21vi: did you mean ~/.xinitrc?06:10
Fator_Deemojo: www.pastebin.com06:10
HappyFooltbasten: it did have a '#<off>#' in front of it initially06:10
KartagisI'm having telnet problems, can you help me guys?06:10
Fator_Deeazad: links is actually quite comfortable to use :-)06:10
ra21virmflagg:-  yup..06:10
mojoFator_Dee: okay... intersting.  will look at taht06:10
rmflaggra21vi: yeah, that doesn't exist...06:10
RowterI have problems with sound, alsa seems to detect it, but there is no sound!.06:11
KartagisTrying 192.168.1.2...06:11
KartagisConnected to 192.168.1.2.06:11
KartagisEscape character is '^] '. <--- this is where it freezes06:11
ligowsquestion: get firestarter from the website or from repositories?06:11
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HappyFooluse the ubuntu repositories if at all possible06:11
darkauditligows: repositories is usually better06:11
mojoligows: probably better to get from the repositories06:11
Fator_Deethe website version works though06:11
Fator_DeeI use it06:11
tbastenHappyFool, Boyah!!06:11
sebastianI just downloaded the browser opera and I'm having trouble installing it. its a tar.gz file. how do I install it?(first day using linux,ubuntu)06:11
ligowsrepositories will always have the same version as the websites?06:11
HappyFooltbasten: phew06:11
Fator_Deeligows: no06:11
HappyFooltbasten: have fun configuring ;)06:11
mojoligows: fyi, firestarter is more of a firewall front-end.  i think that the actual firewalling is done by iptables, which is a part of the neworking in the kernel (methinks!!!)06:11
Fator_Deeligows: repositories are frozen06:12
darkauditligows: not at all...06:12
tbastenHappyFool, lol. Now, username and password :S06:12
HappyFooluse your user's06:12
tbastenkk06:12
rmflaggWhat is the directory that GDM under Ubuntu uses for the startup scripts?06:12
darkauditbut that's not necessarily a bad thing, either06:12
ra21vimake it, cuz when X starts, it takes resources and exec from there, runs the programs etc on startup06:12
HappyFooli.e., the user who can sudo06:12
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ligowswhat are the advantages of getting stuff from repositories as opposed to the websites?06:12
HappyFoolit worked for me, anyway06:12
rekaligows: don't have to worry about dependencies06:12
mojoligows: keeping your dependencies all straight!06:12
jiyuu0ligows, easier to install :)06:12
Fator_Deeligows: using repositories the programs assimilate nicely to your system06:12
azadFator_Dee: i just noticed that i don't even know how to copy without mouse06:13
ligowsthank you. thank you for your responses. Wow, the love!06:13
HappyFooltbasten: i suggest you firewall off anything samba related. no need for the world to see those ports06:13
azadbut i could send you the file via dcc i guess06:13
Fator_Deeazad: actually, me neither06:13
rmflaggI tried that and it still doesn't do anything.06:13
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Fator_Deeazad: send away06:13
ligowsAnd the encouragement to stay with the repositories...06:13
azadFator_Dee: which file is it?06:13
mojoligows: if you install w/o using repositories, then the apt package management system does not know about them06:13
Fator_Deeazad: /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:13
HappyFoolalso, if you use the repositories you will automatically get security updates (assuming you update regularly)06:13
LinuxJonesligows, plus you don't know if someone has planted a trojan'd program in those other repositories :)06:13
rekamojo: not entirely correct.  synaptic shows locally installed deb files iirc06:14
ligowswhy then can we not have the repositories always have the most current stuff in them, as like in the websites?06:14
tbastenHappyFool, yeah. Um, how am i ment to edit stuff with this. I am after something like that is usable of a simple user :P06:14
rekaligows: b/c hoary is frozen06:14
ligowswhat's iirc?06:14
HappyFooltbasten: i'm not sure, but i think this is about as good as it gets06:14
ligowsfrozes?06:14
LinuxJonesligows, because Hoary is Stable which means few changes only Security and Major bug fixes06:14
ligowsfrozen?06:14
darkauditligows: need to keep a satble system...06:14
rekaligows: iirc: if i recall correctly06:14
darkaudits/satble/stable06:15
HappyFooltbasten: samba is a fairly complicated piece of software06:15
Echelon-Hcan anyone please help me with enemy territory? I downloaded the install file but I don't know how to run it. it's a ".run" file.06:15
Fator_Deeazad: looks fine to me :-\06:15
HappyFooltbasten: take a look here: http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/06:15
azadhmm06:15
thenukeEchelon-H: have you read the readmes and such06:15
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Foi06:15
ligowsLinuxJones, by "those other repositories" you mean the universe and multiverse?06:15
HappyFooltbasten: and install the samba-doc package06:15
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darkauditligows: the release version gets frozen, then work begins on the next release... and stuff breaks early and often there...06:16
ligowsor are multivers and universe jus t as safe?06:16
Echelon-Hthenuke, no readme and such. only run file.06:16
azadFator_Dee: it suggests to "apt-get install x-window-system[-core] "06:16
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Echelon-Hhmmm, anyone knows of word like editor which supports hebrew?06:16
darkauditligows: universe and multiverse are official repositories... quite safe06:16
Fator_Deeazad: do that then06:16
Echelon-Hthe openoffice seems not to handle it.06:16
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LinuxJonesligows, repositories that are on the net and not official mirrors. Stick to the Ubuntu repos and you'll be ok06:16
azadshall i? and what is this?06:16
azadi hope this still will be x.org and not xfree?06:16
HappyFoolKartagis: have you considered using ssh instead ?06:17
Foi06:17
Foi06:17
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: go to the directory in which the run file resides and then write "./filetorun"06:17
ligowswow, these repositories in ubuntu are like banks with lots of gold. I feel rich!06:17
KartagisHappyFool: I'm trying to telnet my eggdrop, not a box06:17
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LinuxJonesligows, there is lots of great stuff :)06:17
ra21vido anyone know how to get involved into some Projects on Linux Apps...06:17
azadwell *downloads*06:17
rekaF: aussie aussie aussie06:17
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Amaranthra21vi: join the channels for the projects, sumbit patches and bug reports, etc06:18
Foi06:18
darkauditreka: Myron Cope: Yoi and double yoi :)06:18
HappyFoolKartagis: sorry, no clue. i see #eggdrop only has 4 users, but try asking there anyway06:18
Fator_DeeKartagis: what's the prob?06:18
andrewskiazad: on breezy, it is Xorg06:18
andrewskiazad: *hoary*06:18
ligowsyou know what my only problem is? it's that when it's time to uninstall, i'm not sure which of the packages i should mark for uninstallation. If i mark the correct one, then Synaptic will mark the others. But if I mark the "incorrect" package, then it's only that package that gets removed. 8-(06:18
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azadfine06:18
azadbreezy not?06:18
Echelon-HFator_Dee, file not found :\06:19
azadwell.. breezy, too i guess06:19
andrewskiazad: no, breezy too, but you shouldn't be using it. :P06:19
KartagisFator_Dee: Trying 192.168.1.2...06:19
KartagisConnected to 192.168.1.2.06:19
KartagisEscape character is '^] '. <--- this is where my telnet freezes06:19
azadi know, but i'm a very strange person who does stupid things without knowing what it means :)06:19
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: you didn't write it right, or you weren't in hte directory06:19
andrewskiazad: you're on breezy?06:19
azadyep06:19
andrewskiazad: that would explain your problems!  i had them last weekend and had to reinstall hoary. :P06:20
Fator_Deeazad: why didn't you say so first :-p06:20
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darkauditazad: you're a braver person than I :)06:20
Echelon-HFator_Dee, i did and i used console.06:20
azadnot brave.. stupid06:20
rg58smahi06:20
azadandrewski: well.. good to know *laughs*06:20
Rowteranyone had problems with VIA vt8237 sound card It looks like it's detected and working but no sound comes out..06:20
rg58smahow to makje a launcher to a  Directory06:20
andrewskiazad: but i kinda gave up after a certain point.  maybe you'll have better luck. :)06:20
rg58smaor a file like airsnorto06:20
darkauditazad: well, *someone's* gotta test the thing before release... might as well be you :)06:20
rg58smaor amule06:21
andrewskidarkaudit: that was my logic too, but then I didn't have X.06:21
azadhehe06:21
azadwell.. wouldn't be very interesting if i find out how.. because afterwards i still don't know what i've done06:21
psycdarkaudit, i still cant get Package.gz, apt-get trys to unbzip2 it, now why ?06:22
andrewskiazad: if you don't know what you're doing or what things mean, you *definitely* should not be on breezy. :)06:22
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KartagisFator_Dee: can you help me with that?06:22
azadi noticed that too, after a while06:22
azadbut somehow i've got an update-fetish06:22
Fator_DeeKartagis: I'd guess there's a firewall blocking it06:22
andrewskiazad: then ubuntu probably isn't the best distro for you.06:22
darkauditpsyc: because it's not a .deb06:23
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azadwell.. i like it i have to say :)06:23
KartagisFator_Dee: it's local06:23
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andrewskiazad: good.06:23
KartagisI'm trying it locally06:23
Fator_DeeKartagis: try to specify the port06:23
azadi will reinstall hoary again then i guess06:23
nolfhey guyz06:23
azadbut now i'll have diner :)06:23
rg58smahow to makje a launcher to a  Directory06:23
Echelon-HFator_Dee, now it says premission denied.06:23
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: run as root then06:23
azadbye bye and thanks06:24
darkauditCate Archer rules! :)06:24
Echelon-Hi used sudo, didn't work.06:24
andrewskiazad: don't take my word that that's necessary, but it is probably quicker. :P06:24
andrewskiazad: good luck!06:24
mojoazad: LOL... sry, i stepped away (friend at door).  Breezy huh?  I've been warned away for the time being myself06:24
eruinI just love the fast user switching applet! :D06:24
mojoazad: so the fonts still broken?06:24
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: give it permissions to execute06:24
andrewskieruin: what fast user switching?06:24
azadyep06:24
azadthey are06:24
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Fator_DeeEchelon-H: sudo chmod u+x filename06:24
KartagisFator_Dee: I specify a port06:25
nolfi have just installed ubuntu 5.04 and installed other multimedia apps using ubuntu unofficial add-on cd, but i dont hear any sound with say xine, amarok, mplayer06:25
azadwell.. gotta have diner now, be back later :) *waves again*06:25
nolfonly the picture's there and nothing more06:25
mojoazad: well anyway did you post your xorg.log to www.pastebin.com like Fator_Dee suggested?  still might hold some clues06:25
nolfamarok doesnt show any sound engine choice too06:25
Echelon-HFator_Dee, k maybe now it's working06:25
nolfsomeone help plz06:25
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: it should06:25
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DaylighthaterHello06:26
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DaylighthaterCan I ask a compatibility question here??06:26
LinuxJonesDaylighthater, yeah06:26
BROKEN_LADDERi need some help with a usb flash drive i got.  i guess it doesn't come formatted..06:27
DaylighthaterI Have a old laptop... a Toshiba S1730 (satelite)06:27
andrewskiDaylighthater: just ask. :)06:27
rekaquestion: what's the best way of debugging crashes?  my system seems to freeze randomly when i logout.  i've tried system log but nothing weird seems to be there.  i've tried looking at /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog but am not sure what i'm supposed to look for.06:27
nolfi am not getting any sound ... with amarok, xine, mplayer ...help plz06:27
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i identify it and f ormat it?06:27
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DaylighthaterI can't seem to install ubuntu graphical, nor sound on it06:27
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andrewskinolf: are you getting errors?06:27
ligowsdoes anybody here do phone/voice calls over the internet? which program do you use? skype?06:27
DaylighthaterI'm pretty sure that I selected the right drivers :s Or the driver doesn't exist :s06:28
ligowsgot firestarteter running. will it slow down my internet?06:28
Daylighthaterbut I don't know wich version of ubuntu it was06:29
mojoQUESTION: Anyone know of a program that will pick me a random background at startup from the ones I have configured in Gnome?06:29
DaylighthaterIt was a friends instalation cd06:29
andrewskimojo: xfdesktop06:29
LinuxJonesligows, naw you shouldn't notice any difference, here's a skype hoto >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto06:29
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rekanolf: you could try the instructions on ubuntuguide.org06:29
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DaylighthaterSo is there a way to do a internet setup??06:30
ligowslinuxjones, is skype the best for ubuntu/linux users?06:30
mojoandrewski: thx...  will it pick from the ones Gnome knows about or do i configure a directory for it?06:30
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andrewskimojo: it's the desktop manager for Xfce; you can set its directory/image list.06:30
mojoandrewski: cool.  tanks06:30
hybridhello all06:30
ligowsis there a program that i can use that will type out what i say on my headset/mic?06:30
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KartagisFator_Dee: I have a theory. can this be happening because my hostname is the same as my domain?06:31
LinuxJonesligows, alot of people are using it and it works on most platforms so it's probably a good choice. There is Gnome Meeting as well for voip.06:31
BROKEN_LADDERreka your name means "right".06:31
ligowsLinuxJones, if i use gnome meeting, i can't talk with a skype user, yes?06:31
LinuxJonesligows, no :(06:31
BROKEN_LADDERwhy would you want to talk to a skype user?06:31
BROKEN_LADDERskype doesn't use sip.06:31
ligowswhat's sip?06:32
BROKEN_LADDERsession initiation protocol.06:32
DaylighthaterCan you do a install with internet resources??06:32
BROKEN_LADDERit's an "open" standard for internet telephony/im etc06:32
rekaBROKEN_LADDER: really?! in what language?06:32
ligowswell, i'd want to talk with people on windows. and it seems that many windows-running people use skype.06:32
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DaylighthaterOr how can I configure a gnome on a Satelite 1730 from toshiba06:32
Daylighthaterit's an old laptop06:33
Fator_DeeKartagis: don't know for sure06:33
BROKEN_LADDERreka uh..i'm sure you can get clients in many languages.06:33
BROKEN_LADDERreka linphone and minisip and kphone are some nice linux software phones for sip.  i own a hardware sip phone as well.  looks like a regular office phone but plugs into ethernet jack.06:33
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bzbbwhen I try to run wine, I get /usr/lib/wine/wine.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:33
BROKEN_LADDERligows sure..but they can just as easily run Microsoft Messager, which has SIP.06:33
BROKEN_LADDERSkype is something that needs to be abandoned.  It is proprietary, and will just slow the inevitable adoption of SIP.06:34
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rekareka: ?_?06:34
ligowsBROKEN_LADDER, so if i run a SIP program like gnome meeting, that means i can talk with a windows-running person using Microsoft messenger? Is the quality as good as it is with Skype?06:34
mjr_indeed06:34
BROKEN_LADDERligows i believe gnome meeting runs h323 or whatever..not sip.06:34
BROKEN_LADDERligows the quality can be as good as or better, depending on which codec you use.  i would choose speex.06:35
DaylighthaterIsn't there anyone who did a similar thing before??06:35
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rekaBROKEN_LADDER: ?? i meant in what language does my nick mean "right"?06:35
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Echelon-Hreka - background in hebrew06:35
BROKEN_LADDERreka it's slavic.  Anything slavic.  The root to it is the same root in the word RECTangle.06:35
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BROKEN_LADDERligows Microsoft Messenger is also good, although there are many other programs one could use for SIP in windows, because it acts like an instant message client, not like a phone.06:36
rekaah, cool. i didn;t know that :-)  i got it by chopping the start off of 'eureka'.06:36
BROKEN_LADDERIt's really obnoxious how a lot of SIP phone clients are set up with a "phone-like" interface.06:37
ligowsi have a friend running Win98. He has just paid more than a hundred dollars to get his windows PC fixed. So, naturally, he is so scared of getting any additional programs. What program can _I_ get that will allow him and me to talk without him getting any additional programs?06:37
BROKEN_LADDERreka as long as he is fine using Microsoft Messenger, which does SIP and should be "safe" to him...06:37
BROKEN_LADDERthen you can use linphone.  it works great in linux.06:37
nolfthnx anyway guyz06:37
Fator_Deeligows: if he's scared of installing programs, he shouldn't be running windows... that's my opinion though06:37
ligowsBROKEN_LADDER, i'm not sure what SIP's all about, but what i'm loking for voice-talking ability, not (just) chat/typing .06:38
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BROKEN_LADDERligows bear in mind how an sip address works.  theoretically you could just dial the ip address of the destination, but you generally use an sip server that you log into, so you would call him at user@domain.org06:38
rekaBROKEN_LADDER: ok. o_O  don't know why you keep directing the messages at me when i haven't joined the conversation :-)06:38
BROKEN_LADDERligows it is for voice.06:38
BROKEN_LADDERligows sipphone.com is the best service provider i can think of.  you can also pay them to get a connection to a real phone number.06:38
BROKEN_LADDERand its 70$ a year for that added service.06:38
BROKEN_LADDERbut the sip address is free.06:38
DaylighthaterK I could ask a question.. but nobody answers... So I conclude I shouldn't install linux on my laptop06:39
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tbasteni am trying to figure out the user accounts side of samba when configuring samba so that it is a PDC06:39
tbastenHow do i do it>06:39
rg58smahi06:39
ligowsFator_Dee, i agree. he's not liking windows very much but he feels he has to stay for now, coz of time restraints (busyness). He's looking at Mac.06:39
Fator_DeeDaylighthater: maybe you could just try06:39
rg58smasomeone have a idea of TV out in UBUNTU??06:39
rg58smamy card is MMX44006:39
BROKEN_LADDERreka i'm not paying attention, that's why.06:39
DaylighthaterI have tried, but the install wasn't correctly made06:39
BROKEN_LADDERi need to master Ardour today...06:39
BROKEN_LADDERgotta get to reading.06:39
DaylighthaterIt always complained about fonts who weren't installed06:39
BROKEN_LADDERligows just check out sipphone.com and it will tell you everything you need to know, including why Skype is something we should try to save people from.06:40
DaylighthaterI've reinstalled ubuntu 5 times06:40
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Daylighthater:s06:40
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BROKEN_LADDERDaylighthater i've never had any similar problems.  that's odd.06:40
ligowsBROKEN_LADDER, i'm currently looking at it. it, and what you just mentioned, looks/sounds interesting!06:40
BROKEN_LADDERdoes anyone know how to go about using a usb flash drive in linux?06:41
dimeonoob question:  how do I edit the applications menu and add new links06:41
DaylighthaterI know... it's ofcourse an old laptop but the windows 2000 version worked fine on the laptop.. So I decided linux would be better :s06:41
Hoxzerhmm... how USB ADSL connection shoudl work with Linux?06:41
HoxzerUbuntu06:41
kestasrg58sma: isnt TV out supported in the video card alone? why would the OS ahve to support it?06:41
Fator_DeeDaylighthater: what exactly was the problem?06:41
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bob2BROKEN_LADDER: plug it in.  enjoy!06:41
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rekadimeo: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo (assuming you're using gnome)06:42
BROKEN_LADDERligows and look at all the sip phones you can buy at http://voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=9506:42
scytherg5sma the linux nvidia drivers support it06:42
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BROKEN_LADDERbob2 how do i mount it?06:42
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i don't even think it's formatted yet.06:42
DaylighthaterI've just downloaded my own version of ubuntu06:42
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: you don't, it happens automatically06:42
bob2Daylighthater: your "own version"?06:42
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 then how do i mount it or find it?06:42
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 where the hell is it?06:42
kestashow long does the cd take to arrive usually?06:42
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: ...it gets mounted under /media automatically06:42
scythebroken_ladder where on that sipphone site does it say why you shouldnt use skype?06:42
DaylighthaterI mean my own cd ...06:42
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 lemme check that06:42
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: if it's not formatted, you'll obviously have to do that yourself with "mksfs".06:43
bob2kestas: when did you order?06:43
kestasbob2: cant remember I think it may have been about a week or two ago06:43
bob2kestas: then wait a few more weeks06:43
DaylighthaterIt was a friends install cd, which I used in the first place... now I've dowloaded an install cd ... I'll try that one and give the exact error06:43
Daylighthaterok??06:43
kestask06:43
bob2Daylighthater: check the cd burnt properly06:43
kestasDaylighthater: what error?06:44
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Daylighthaterkestas: It can take up to three months, a classmate of mine received his copy after three months06:44
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 how is that happening?  i see now fstab entries.06:44
mojoQUESTION: Anyone got advice on a cd burning program?  GnomeBaker works but is very slow, and the UI leaves much to be desired for me...06:45
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: er, that doesn't happen on ubuntu06:45
Daylighthaterkestas: some font or fontserver error06:45
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: unless you mean "mount" entries.06:45
rugolinihow can i make to apt install xmms ?06:45
bob2rugolini: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:45
bob2it's in the universe repository06:45
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 what file is specifying this ?06:45
ligowsBROKEN_LADDER, i found "linphone" in repository. is that a good one?06:45
BROKEN_LADDERligows it's excellent.06:45
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bob2BROKEN_LADDER: ?06:45
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bob2BROKEN_LADDER: what file is specifying *what*?06:46
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 how is this happening?06:46
scythemojo k3b, and if burning is slow, you might want to check and see if dma is turned on for you drive06:46
hybridWarning: eth0 couldnt be mapped reliable on line 2 <-- whaats that mean?06:46
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 if there's no entry in fstab, what is going on that's causing this to be mounted under /media?06:46
rugolinibob2, thanks06:46
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: kernel sees plug in event.  passes it to udevd.  which passes it to hal.  which passes it to gnome-volume-manager.  which mounts it.06:46
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BROKEN_LADDERso there are some gnome-volume-manager settings for it?06:46
ligowsif you have the link on sipphone.com as to "why skype is something we should try to save people from", kindly let me know, BROKEN_LADDER .06:46
BROKEN_LADDERligows sure one sec.06:47
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: of course06:47
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mojoscythe:  no, it just sits there FOREVER making WAVs from the files with mpeg123...  I was hoping for something that could burn right from the mp3s.  Also support for FLAC and SHN would be nice, since I have a lot of those (ima deadhead)06:47
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BROKEN_LADDERhttp://www.sipphone.com/email/thecall10.html06:48
bob2shorten is badly supported on linux because it has a stupid license, unfortunately06:48
azadmojo: no, no copy paste without graphical surface, i sent the log via dcc06:48
scythemojo k3b has support for flac06:48
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 right now i have something called /media/floppy2 that i can write and read from..but i have no flash media inserted.  what's going on?06:48
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bob2I was just thinking tonight nautilus should get audio-cd-burning support06:48
mojobob2: well i don't have many shortens anyway... i have no problem converting them to FLAC.  I am not a big shorten (license/nonfree) fan either06:48
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: you haven't been using linux or unix very long, I guess...mount points are just directories.06:49
BROKEN_LADDEReveryone listen to Josh Rouse.06:49
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: if nothing is mounted, it's just a normal directory06:49
BROKEN_LADDERi've been using it for quite some time.06:49
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mojobob2: but there are lots of concert recordings still floating around in shn format06:49
bob2you can read/write to it as per-normal06:49
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 oh..duh.  i knew that.06:49
bob2g-v-m seems a bit lazy about removing dirs from /media06:49
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 udev has scrambled my brain.06:49
rg58smamy card is MMX44006:49
bob2mojo: yeah, I've noticed06:49
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bob2pity dmb took down all their etree stuff06:50
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 isn't there a way to do something similar to how udev works, where when you disconnect the media, the directory is no longer there?06:50
mojoazad: oh yeah, DUH... you're in text mode.  via DCC to whom? me06:50
mojo>06:50
mojo?06:50
Fator_Deemojo: to me06:50
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: udev has nothing to do with it06:50
hybridWarning: eth0 couldnt be mapped reliable on line 2 <-- anyone know how to fix this?06:50
Lwolfhi, i'm looking for php5 ubuntu repository (with libapache2-mod-php5 if possible), does anyone have such a link ? thanx06:50
mojoFator_Dee: oh, cool06:50
Davey|UbuntuI just installed the xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-control packages, how do I check if it worked and how do I configure it?06:50
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: it just gets told by the kernel that something has been added, and it knows to tell hal.06:50
BlissexDavey|Ubuntu: try #ATI06:50
Fator_Deemojo: but it appeared that he was using breezy :-p06:50
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: g-v-m should tidy it up, I guess06:50
bob2hybrid: your question is too vague06:51
Hoxzerdoes synapic support JRE?06:51
bob2hybrid: you need to mention a) when you see that message b) if it's new and c) if it's causing problems06:51
bob2Hoxzer: no, the JRE is not in ubuntu06:51
bob2Hoxzer: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:51
azadmojo, no06:51
mojoDavey|Ubuntu: fist off, DONT use the fglrxconfig from what I have heard.  Second, use fglrxinfo and glxinfo from command line.  make sure they do NOT say MESA for the OpenGL and you're good06:51
azadto Fator_Dee06:51
mojo(they should say ati fglrx..)06:51
rekabob2: someone recommended this link: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php06:52
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dimeoanyone else have problems accessing their '06:52
dimeousb memory stick?06:52
hybridbob2: ok i get it at start up. i have had it for a while and i think it is stopping me from havin hotplug lan06:52
mojoFator_Dee: yeah, i know he's on breezy.  Just wondering anyway if the log was insightful06:53
LwolfHoxzer, as far as i know, a java package is available at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ repositorys (only install java package from this.. the other packages can be unstable)06:53
dimeoit detects it, but then when I try to open it, it says ""usbdisk" couldn't be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted."06:53
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 nothing is appearing in /media06:53
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: ok!06:53
Hoxzerok06:53
hybridbob2: i get it right before config network interfaces06:53
Fator_Deemojo: the log seemed ok, so I'd guess the breezy was the problem06:53
rekaDavey|Ubuntu: yeah, using fglrxconfig may stuff up your xorg.conf file.  basically, you need to load the fglrx module and then edit xorg.conf.  see: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto06:53
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: I can't even guess at what your question is without more informatiuon06:53
mojoFator_Dee / azad : okey dokey.06:53
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: I assume you formatted it correctly?06:54
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 006:54
BROKEN_LADDERcdrom: sr0: mrw address space DMA selected06:54
BROKEN_LADDERend_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 006:54
dimeobob2 he's trying to access his unformatted USB keychain06:54
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 uh..that's in dmesg.06:54
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: so, have you formatted it or not?06:54
BROKEN_LADDERdimeo there ya go.  bob2 said it formats it automatically.06:54
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 you said it did that automatically06:54
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: no06:54
bob2I never said06:54
bob2that06:54
bob2please don't deliberately misquote me06:55
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BROKEN_LADDERwell, the way you answered that's what you said.  probably because you didn't read my whole question.06:55
BROKEN_LADDERyou said that.06:55
BROKEN_LADDERi'll paste it.06:55
tsumewell byes06:55
dimeoI hope not, cause mine has stuff on it!  and I'm also having trouble accessing it06:55
bob2what I actually said: 02:43:04           bob2 | BROKEN_LADDER: if it's not formatted, you'll obviously have to do that yourself with "mksfs".06:55
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tsumeI must go see cameras06:55
Fator_DeeBROKEN_LADDER: you just ask bob2 in the wrong time, he answered your other question06:55
Fator_Dee*asked06:55
benplauthello ubunuts!06:55
Fator_Deejust a misinterpretation06:55
ligowsBROKEN_LADDER, i love the idea of the 5 free minutes to a conventional phone with sipphone!06:55
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hybridWarning: eth0 couldnt be mapped reliable on line 2 occurs during start up it has happened for a while and i think it is keeping me from use hotplug lan06:56
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robotic_planktonHello!06:56
ligowsBROKEN_LADDER, 5 free minutes everyday! enough to maybe say, "Hey buddy, check your email! I wrote you something!"06:56
bob2hybrid: try asking on the user list06:56
wellparpHi. I need some help with X. I have just installed hoary on a Dell Inspiron 2200 laptop but X wont start. What should I do?06:56
hybridok06:56
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BROKEN_LADDER[09:42]  <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 i don't even think it's formatted yet.06:57
BROKEN_LADDER[09:42]  <Daylighthater> I've just downloaded my own version of ubuntu06:57
BROKEN_LADDER[09:42]  <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: you don't, it happens automatically06:57
ligowsi've told some people to move to skype already, oh no!06:57
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BROKEN_LADDERligows you're not reading it.06:57
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: yes, I was answering the earlier part of your questoin06:57
BROKEN_LADDERligows that's five free minutes to a PSTN phone.06:57
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: as I pasted above, I explicitly said it does not format it automatically06:57
Davey|Ubuntuuhm, I have Xorg not XFree86, I think, which file do I need to edit instead of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 which doesn't exist for me?06:57
penguinpartyany alsa experts in the room?06:57
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Fator_DeeDavey|Ubuntu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:58
ligowsBROKEN_LADDER, from that last link you gave me: "PhoneGaim customers can call anyone in 30 countries on the PSTN (old phone system) for five minutes every day for free"06:58
BROKEN_LADDERligows with an sip device, the only thing their server does is tell a caller what the current ip address is of user@domain.com.  Once he knows that, he can call you all day if he likes..the server has nothing to do with it.06:58
BROKEN_LADDERligows it's free to call people using SIP phones all day as much as you want!06:58
hybridha tgfg [thank god for google] 06:58
ivokshi all06:58
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dimeotrying to install smeg:  I type sudo dpkg -i smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb and it says dpkg: status database area is locked by another process06:58
bob2penguinparty: best to just ask your question06:58
bob2dimeo: close apt/aptitude/synaptic06:58
dimeok thanx bob206:58
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eyequeuedimeo:  synaptic aptitude or apt-get are open06:59
BROKEN_LADDERligows also, you can buy, for 70$/year, a real PSTN number and call regular phones.  That's like 6$ a month for phone service.06:59
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lightboyn e one know what the latest amd64-k8 kernel is?06:59
penguinpartyusing 2.6.11.8 kernel with a au8820 card . . . no/dev/dsp at boot, and dmesg show the kernel module crap out06:59
eyequeuedimeo:  also, you may prefer smeg 0.6 instead06:59
BROKEN_LADDERlinukso lol..u anka ci parolas la bonan lingvon?06:59
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ligowsBROKEN_LADDER, i understand that it's free as much as you want to call another wired person, but correct me if i misunderstood what i read on the sipphone webpage, but phonegaim users can phone anybody at all, even that grandmother of ours without a computer, for 5 free minutes everyday.06:59
bob2penguinparty: alsa doesn't provide /dev/dsp06:59
ivokspenguinparty: 2.6.11 is very bad kernel, skip it06:59
BROKEN_LADDERligows i've never tried..i dunno.07:00
bob2penguinparty: also, 2.6.10 is the supported ubuntu kernel, try that07:00
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bob2ligows: the one on security.ubuntu.com, presumably07:00
bob2ligows: what is your real question?07:00
penguinpartyok07:00
benplautso... if i run XFCE with nautilus as file manager and desktop, GNOME-panel as panel, and the gnome GUI config tools, am i running gnome or xfce?07:00
rg58smawhat is Array 7 CD and where i download??07:00
ivoksbenplaut: both07:00
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ivoksbenplaut: gnome isn't window manager07:01
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ligowsbob2, what is it  about that security.ubuntu website? i'm not sure i understand your message.07:01
benplauttrue...07:01
ivoksbenplaut: for plain gnome, that metacity07:01
firepolHappyFool: im done, if u want i share with u my results07:01
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naliothbenplaut: you are running linux07:01
AshenYoh07:01
HappyFoolfirepol: please do07:01
benplautivoks: i was running openbox, so no points there :)07:01
Rev_FryWell, after my issues with hangs in ubuntu I tried booting me windows partition to see if it was consistent across OSs.  Windows has been chugging along for a day or so while ubuntu will freeze up anywhere from 10min - 1hr07:01
bob2ligows: sorry, not meant for you07:01
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i format my fucking usb drive?07:01
HappyFoolfirepol: you got it workgin ?07:01
Rev_Fry*sobs*07:01
bob2lightboy: what are you actually trying to find out?07:01
wellparpMy X does not start. Can anyone please help?07:01
BROKEN_LADDERer...my usb drive.07:01
Davey|UbuntuOK, I think I have it. Time to reboot07:01
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: easily07:01
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: dude, stop it, and READ.  I told you how 15 minutes ago.07:01
naliothbenplaut: nobody tells you how to run your box07:01
DaylighthaterQuestion: My screen (console also) is one row down from the top... how to set this right??07:01
bob202:55:20           bob2 | what I actually said: 02:43:04           bob2 | BROKEN_LADDER: if it's not formatted, you'll obviously have to do that yourself with "mksfs".07:01
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i didn't see anything about it.07:01
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lightboyits ok i just wanted to get a non generic amd kernel07:02
lightboyi found it07:02
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: then read.07:02
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 ahh..07:02
firepolhappyfool: my problem number 1 was coz of grub-install. an alternative of grub-install is grub itself07:02
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i missed that.07:02
ivoksbut :)07:02
ivoksdon't do mkfs.ext307:02
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 for compatibility with windows machines, what would you say is the best fs i could put on it?07:02
ivoksthen your USB will be usless on windows :)07:02
AshenAll: Hello-- I'm installing Hoary on an AMD64 system, which is dual booting windows... it did something fun. Just before it installs the stuff that its copied to the hdd (like, the reset in the middle of the install) it asks about grub right... then it does that reset... then--- "Error loading operating system"07:02
bob2Daylighthater: easiest way is vhold on your monitor07:02
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: mkfs.vfat07:02
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: fat32 is your only option07:02
BROKEN_LADDERivoks i wouldn't use ext3 anyway..just reiser.07:02
firepolhappyfool: now it work,s i successfully installed grub on my primary master HD. i had to do the following: 1) grub 2) root (hd0,0) 3) setup (hd0) 4) quit07:03
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 iso9660 isn't an option?07:03
Rev_FryWhen is Breezey set to come out and how can I roll back to 2.6.9?  Someone said that helped them with their hangs07:03
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: on USB? :))))07:03
benplautnalioth: yeah... just trying to figure out what it is for people asking me what DE i use, online07:03
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: er? it's not writable.07:03
Daylighthaterbob2 ok thanks will try as soon as install is finished07:03
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: and it's a crap filesystem07:03
HappyFoolfirepol: that's it ?07:03
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 lol07:03
BROKEN_LADDERokay thanks07:03
naliothbenplaut: keep them off balance.... make something up07:03
firepolhappyfool: maybe i had to change hd1,0 ...i dont remember. anyway if i did with grub-install it didnt work, i had to use the grub command line07:03
bob2Rev_Fry: october, ubuntu releases every 6 months07:03
AshenAll: Any ideas?07:03
bob2Rev_Fry: 2.6.9 isn't supported in ubuntu07:03
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Rev_Fryoctober?  By then windows will have rotted major portions of my brain!!!07:03
DarKnesS_WolFhow to add arabic into my keybord ? or any another lang. ?07:04
BROKEN_LADDERwhy do you have to pick a partition type in cfdisk if you are going to use mkfs later anyway?07:04
firepolhappyfool: another problem was a file called /boot/grub/device.map : i had to delete it (it will be generated again, anyway)07:04
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HappyFoolfirepol: ok. so your root was (hd0,0), not (hd1,0) ?07:04
BROKEN_LADDERDarKnesS_WolF just check out keyboard settings.07:04
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: whatever...07:04
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: because DOS partition tables are from 198107:04
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: it isn't important, just do partition07:04
Echelon-Hanyone here ever used gmailfs and can help me?07:04
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: it doesn't matter to linux what you put there07:04
firepolhappyfool: my root was specified inside device.map . and it was not correct07:04
bob2Echelon-H: why is everyone so interested in that all of a sudden?07:04
HappyFoolfirepol: hm07:04
Echelon-Hbob2, can you help me?07:05
ivoksbob2: you sound like wikipedia :)07:05
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mojowhat is gmailfs anyway? a file system that access gmail LOL?07:05
AshenSo... I take it there are no ideas ^_^'07:05
bob2mojo: yes07:05
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 oh..interesting.  is there anyway to put _nothing_ so that you do away with that awful legacy crap?07:05
naliothbob2, they want to sign up for hundreds of gmail accounts and get free space07:05
scorpix_DarKnesS_WolF: right click on the top panel in gnome07:05
ivoksmojo: yes07:05
bob2mojo: it's a terrible silly hack someone wrote07:05
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bob2nalioth: yes, but why?07:05
scytheBroken_ladder there is experimental support in linux for ntfs read and write07:05
bob2nalioth: what are they actually storing there?07:05
mojobob2: no way.  why the bleep would you?07:05
ivoksmojo: it enables you to mount 1GB extra space :)07:05
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: not if you care about windows compatibility07:05
scorpix_DarKnesS_WolF: and choose Keyboard indicator07:06
mojoivoks: so you can use your gmail account as a filesystem and store stuff there?07:06
naliothbob2: its like the webdav online storage thing, i guess they're keepin pR0n or whatever07:06
ivoksmojo: yes07:06
naliothmojo yes07:06
HappyFoolfirepol: hmm. ok, so you used grub, and not grub-install. And you had to erase device.map07:06
Rev_FryAMD64 2800+ MSI K8N Neo Plat 768RAM Asus ATI 9600XT SB Audigy  Running the i386 not the 64bit install.  Anything there seem obvious?07:06
dimeook so I've installed smeg and added a menu entry but it doesn't show up yet. what do I do now?07:06
mojoaren't harddisks well below a dollar a gig now?07:06
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firepolhappyfool: well, im a little confused ;) anyway, my methodology to find what was wrong was the grub-install. instead of it, i read in a forum/newsletter post that it was better to run "grub" and then to use the commands inside grub07:06
AshenBroken_ladder: There is pretty decent NTFS support these days thru Captive NTFS07:06
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i don't care about windows compatibility.07:06
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 windows will never touch my computer.07:06
firepolhappyfool: yep, without device.map it works07:06
naliothmojo: yes, but being able to say "i'm abusing google" is priceless07:06
ivoksmojo: for somone that's on giga link for free, it's cheeper to mount that 1GB then buy new disk07:06
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: then use bsd disk slices or something.  it's like the least biggest deal in the universe, though.07:07
mojonalioth: LOL!!!07:07
HappyFoolfirepol: i guess it's not exercised all that much07:07
ivoksmojo: there are some with laptops, so new disk also isn't an option07:07
firepolhappyfool: but now i have to configure menu.lst so that windows 2003 will boot, thats my next challenge ;)07:07
HappyFoolfirepol: grub-install, i mean.07:07
bob2way more annoying are silly things like having to boot your PC into real mode07:07
bob2or switching back to real mode to change video modes07:07
mojobbiaf..07:07
HappyFoolfirepol: well, if you're getting the menu from menu.lst, that shouldn't be too hard07:07
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 how can i find the dev name of my flash memory?07:07
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i tried /dev/sr0 but it says it can't write to it.07:07
firepolhappyfool: yep, if its wrong i can edit from grub at the boot time... grub rles hehehe07:07
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: look in dmesg07:07
BROKEN_LADDERhmm..i did.07:08
ivokssr0?07:08
firepolgrub is really powerful. im happy that i learnt a bit to use it07:08
ivokssda should be07:08
ivoksor sdb07:08
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: unplug. replug. run dmesg.07:08
ivoksnot sr007:08
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 done that.07:08
BROKEN_LADDERit's sr007:08
BROKEN_LADDERsudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sr007:08
BROKEN_LADDERmkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)07:08
BROKEN_LADDERmkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sr007:08
ivoksthat's a generic devise07:08
ivoksdevice07:08
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: sudo modprobe usb-storage07:08
hybridwho let nalioth in again?07:08
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hybridwhat is this #debian?07:09
scythemount it , then do the mkfs command07:09
ivoksscythe: no :))07:09
naliothhybrid: basement window, this time07:09
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: sr0 is not the right node to be using07:09
HappyFoolfirepol: ok, sorry i didn't have the correct information earlier07:09
bob2ivoks: that's already loaded or he/she wouldn't have anything in dmesg07:09
BROKEN_LADDERstill not working.07:09
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: read dmesg more carefully07:09
ivoksbob2: he would, if he has generic in there07:09
hybridnalioth: ah i used that last week thats why the lock is gone07:09
bob2it should be /dev/sdb or /dev/sda or so07:09
bob2assuming you partitioned it already07:09
HappyFoolfirepol: i really hope no-one is going to be asking that sort of question again ;)07:09
ivoksbob2: usb-storage is for mapping usb to scsi07:09
firepolhappyfool: no problem dude, u tried to help me, and u made me willing to fight in order to fix my problem ;) so i fixed it07:09
DarKnesS_WolFthx guys07:10
bob2ivoks: yes, I know07:10
bob2I have been using ubuntu for a little while now ;p07:10
ivoksand srX are generic SCSI devices07:10
ivoksbob2: :)07:10
bob2yeah, but he/she wants the disk device node07:10
bob2like you said to begi nwith07:10
ivokshe needs usb-storage then :)07:10
ivokshm..07:10
bob2it'll be loaded by default07:11
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: sudo modprobe sd_mod07:11
ivoksor.. what's the name..07:11
bob2unless something else is broken07:11
firepolhappyfool: even if they ask, you can suggest them not to use grub-install but to run grub and run the commands from there ;)07:11
bob2anyway, sleep time, good luck07:11
HappyFoolfirepol: yeah, i'll remember that07:11
ivoksbob2: whell, "should" is common ... :)07:11
ivoksbob2: night07:11
mojookay ppl gl to all and have a good one. it's beautiful outside and i'm off to the rennesainse festival (whee!)  Peace!07:11
firepolhappyfool: ok, gotta go now, thx again and cheers07:11
BROKEN_LADDERhttp://pastebin.com/29132507:11
HappyFoolfirepol: keep well07:11
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 http://pastebin.com/29132507:11
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firepolthanks bye07:12
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Davey|Ubuntuhmm, well it didn't kill my graphics, so is it safe to assume I'm not using the fglrx drivers?07:12
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: cdrom is sr0 :)07:12
BROKEN_LADDERivoks yeah..oops.07:12
BROKEN_LADDERbut there's nothing else in dmesg.07:12
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: this isn't ubuntu's kernel07:12
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: this is self compiled kernel07:12
BROKEN_LADDERivoks huh?07:12
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: uname -r07:12
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BROKEN_LADDERLinux BROKENLADDER 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Fri May 20 14:31:01 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux07:13
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ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: do you have SCSI cdrom?07:13
BROKEN_LADDERthat's an ubuntu kernel.  it's through apt-get.07:13
schasiWhat whas the web packages search for ubuntu again?07:13
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BROKEN_LADDERivoks sata07:13
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ivokssata cdrom!?07:13
BROKEN_LADDERsata dvdrw07:13
ivokswhat idiot created that device?07:13
imaekWhat is a good CD burning program for gnome (not k3b)?07:13
BROKEN_LADDERidiot?07:13
BROKEN_LADDERsata is way better than ata.07:13
ivoksfor cdrom?!07:13
scythethat must have cost a pretty penny07:13
ivoks:))07:13
BROKEN_LADDERnice thin cables.  extremely high throughput when reading from cache.07:14
BROKEN_LADDERscythe no..like 80$07:14
Davey|Ubuntuwhat can I do about this? (using 3ddesk to test my 3D stuff) glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!07:14
Davey|Ubuntu3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.07:14
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: for CDROM?!07:14
scythewhy not just buy a scsi drive07:14
xozBROKEN_LADDER: are you sure it's sata?07:14
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BROKEN_LADDERxoz absolutely positively.07:14
bob2er, your computer has 1000 times as much cache as the cd rom07:14
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: cdrom can't read as fast as SATA can transfer data07:14
BROKEN_LADDERi put this box togethr myself.07:14
bob2and it's 1000 times faster07:14
xozBROKEN_LADDER: maybe, there is no driver yet for that. try google.07:14
scythereally?? all the sata drives ive seen were comparable to scsi07:14
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BROKEN_LADDERivoks but sata cables are better, and when reading from cache, you better believe it can.07:14
naliothimaek: gnomebaker?07:14
ivoks:)07:14
BROKEN_LADDERscythe but scsi is expensive.07:14
scytheso are all the sata drives ive seen07:15
BROKEN_LADDERxoz my sata dvd drive works great.07:15
BROKEN_LADDERxoz the problem is my flash memory.07:15
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: maybe, but sr0 is your cdrom, not usb stick :)07:15
ivoksso you are trying to format a cdrom07:15
ivoks:>07:15
scytheplug it in and do a cdrecord --scanbus07:15
BROKEN_LADDERivoks i saw that, now let's move on.07:15
Ashenare there problems installing grub on a sata drive?07:16
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BROKEN_LADDERflash drive07:16
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: unplug it and plug it back in07:16
scythethat should tell you where your thumbdrive is07:16
BROKEN_LADDERflash drive07:16
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: then do dmesg07:16
BROKEN_LADDERivoks i have done that many times.07:16
BROKEN_LADDERivoks i have done that many times.07:16
xozBROKEN_LADDER: can you try hwinfo?07:16
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: dmesg07:16
rg58smahttp://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/444107:16
BROKEN_LADDERevery time i do that it gives me another line like this: cdrom: sr0: mrw address space DMA selected07:16
Ashenthat is-- has anyone installed grub on a sata drive using the installer, and had it work07:17
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scythebroken.. have you tried to do a cdrecord --scanbus to determine what the drive is?07:17
xozBROKEN_LADDER: it seems it recognizes your flash to be cdrom?07:17
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: check lsmod | grep usb-storage07:17
BROKEN_LADDERusb_storage            71936  007:17
BROKEN_LADDERusbcore               119000  4 usb_storage,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd07:17
BROKEN_LADDERscsi_mod              127552  6 sd_mod,sg,sr_mod,libata,usb_storage,sbp207:17
BROKEN_LADDERide_core              129356  5 usb_storage,ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,piix07:17
ivokswho said paste it?07:18
BROKEN_LADDERdoh.07:18
imaekIs there any CD burning program that supports .bin/.cue format?07:18
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DaylighthaterQuestion: is there a good system monitoring tool? One that shows temperatures of the processor etc07:18
BROKEN_LADDERDaylighthater tons of them, especially in linux.07:18
icemanOK, can you get superkaramba as a package ?07:19
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xozBROKEN_LADDER: what about ehci-hcd?07:19
BROKEN_LADDERDaylighthater are you in gnome?  there are some simple panel applets that will do it.07:19
Ashenimaek: k3b07:19
DaylighthaterBROKEN_LADDER I now, but I'm looking for a good one07:19
imaekAshen: is there a way of installing k3b without KDE?07:19
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BROKEN_LADDERwhat about it xoz?07:19
DaylighthaterI'm currently still installing07:19
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: ceck out lsusb07:19
Ashenimaek: yup07:19
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Daylighthaterdunno...07:19
ivoksit should show you your device07:19
Ashenimaek: it installs some libs to run it07:19
JStrikeimaek : Does GnomeBaker not support it?07:19
Ashenimaek: but it works fine07:20
imaekIt doesn't, JStrike.07:20
hybridbob2: i fixed it07:20
scytheimaek yeah, it works07:20
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BROKEN_LADDERBus 005 Device 002: ID 0424:20fc Standard Microsystems Corp.07:20
xozBROKEN_LADDER: it is for usb 2.007:20
Ashenimaek: use synaptic07:20
chillywillyum, I use cdrdao to burn vcd .bin and .cue files07:20
BROKEN_LADDERxoz what is?07:20
imaekI'm apt-getting it right now Ashen.07:20
Ashenimaek: k3b is also nice to work with-- it an amarok, the only two decent looking kde apps.07:20
Ashenimaek: ...and only coz I'm running them in gnome :)07:20
imaek:)07:21
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: did u mess with udev?07:21
rg58smahttp://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/444107:21
scytheivoks what does lsusb do?07:21
BROKEN_LADDERhell no07:21
BROKEN_LADDERscythe list usb devices07:21
scytheand how do i get more information on what a device is that i get from lsusb07:21
BROKEN_LADDERlist usb07:21
BROKEN_LADDERlsusb07:21
DaylighthaterAnother Question, what's best to use Gnome or KDE07:21
Daylighthater??07:21
chillywillyvonage needs to do something about their website being so slow ;)07:21
Daylighthaterchillywilly U from overmeire??07:22
scythedaylighthater.... thats asking for a holy war07:22
Davey|Ubuntuhow to get Firefox 1.0.4 in Ubuntu? or at least, get the security fix?07:22
chillywillyDaylighthater: no, I have no idea what you are talking about07:22
darkauditDaylighthater: XFCE ;)07:22
Daylighthaterchillywilly don't matter, got a friend with same nick:d07:23
scythedavey i just dl'd the binary installer for firefox 1.0.4   that works07:23
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chillywillythere is only one penGNUin and it's me ;)07:23
Davey|Ubuntuscythe: OK07:23
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xozBROKEN_LADDER: can you load it? since usb-storage may need it if your sata is emulated as usb storage device?07:23
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ivoksscythe: prints connected usb devices07:23
ivoksas lspci does for PCI devices07:24
Daylighthaterscythe, darkaudit: I'll rephrase :D, what's better for an old slow laptop07:24
HappyFoolDavey|Ubuntu: use synaptic to update firefox. the security fixes are back-ported07:24
gbicAnyone know of an implicit ssl/tls ftp client for ubuntu?07:24
gbicother than lftp, I want a UI07:24
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ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: do you have any other usb device arround?07:24
xozDaylighthater: openbox, fluxbox07:24
ivoksscythe: usbview07:25
scytheDavey.. ubuntu supposedly also released an update into the apt-get repository with out updateing the version number... after you update... there is a workaround on the firefox website so you can update your plugins there07:25
scythek07:25
Davey|UbuntuHappyFool: but the FIrefox update website doesn't know that ;)07:25
ivoksor via udevinfo07:25
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scytheusbview... is that a cli or a gui?07:25
HappyFoolDavey|Ubuntu: you can edit the 'vendorSub' field in about:config07:26
Daylighthaterxoz: thanks wil try07:26
Lwolfhi, i'm looking for php5 ubuntu repository (with libapache2-mod-php5 if possible), does anyone have such a link ? thanx07:26
ivoksLwolf: there is no PHP5 for ubuntu or debian07:26
HappyFoolDavey|Ubuntu: notice that the extensions site gives a link to a workaround07:26
ivoksLwolf: that's too fresh project...07:26
Lwolfiwoks : people.debian.org/~dexter : php5 for sid and sarge     www.dotdeb.org : php5 for woody07:26
Davey|UbuntuLwolf: I have it compiled from scratch on Debian Sarge FYI07:27
Lwolfs/w/v07:27
ivoksLwolf: these aren't official07:27
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ivoksLwolf: but you can take sarge packages and install them07:27
Lwolfivoks, i don't look for official ones07:27
Lwolfivoks, no, there is dependancy problems07:27
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johannesI have installed the wine package but it seems that I don't have the "regedit" executable tha I need to import a regfile.. why is that?07:27
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ivoksLwolf: what dep problem?07:27
ZodiacGuys...07:28
Lwolfwell, i thinks i'm gonna do some dependency  works..07:28
ZodiacWireless on Linux is terrible07:28
flodinewhat the hell is wrong with mplayer07:28
ZodiacI have to say it07:28
ivoksZodiac: ?07:28
scythereally zodiac... whys that?07:28
ZodiacI cannot for the life of me get mine to work on Hoary...07:28
Zodiacand!07:28
ivoksmy wifi worked on ubuntu out of the box07:28
ZodiacI have this great guide ...07:28
ivoksstill doesn't work on windows :)07:28
ZodiacWhat card do you have?07:28
Lwolfivoks, arg, some packages needed by php5 installation of people.debian.org/~dexter need recent packages07:28
ivoksipw220007:28
GNAMWireless on Linux? audsudsaudsauads07:29
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scythemy works great07:29
Lwolfivoks, well, nevermind, i'm gona do some compilation work... ;(07:29
ZodiacMy card is linksys, that is prolly why07:29
ChoubakaZodiac: You just need to buy a non-crappy card.07:29
ivoksLwolf: download source, change deps and build packages :)07:29
Choubakaie. a properly supported one07:29
ZodiacI need it to be wireless G though07:29
ivokslinksys?!07:29
ivokswtf is that? :)07:29
ivoksipw2200 is b/g07:30
scytheivoks, its called cicso, and crap07:30
BROKEN_LADDERi can't even get my usb flash drive to work on a windows machine07:30
ivokshahaha07:30
scytheivoks, i cant get my ipw2200 to do g, how did you get that working?07:30
ivoksbroken flash07:30
ZodiacEverything else worked07:30
ChoubakaBROKEN_LADDER: since when has any usb dongle worked one windows? :p07:30
Zodiacbut not wireless internet07:30
ivoksscythe: you need G network :)07:30
BROKEN_LADDERChoubaka uh..almost always.07:30
scythei have  a g network07:30
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ZodiacOkay, so what card should I get?07:31
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Davey|UbuntuI have my wireless on Ubuntu working flawlessly07:31
ChoubakaBROKEN_LADDER: if you think always is synonymous to "whenever the moons are aligned"07:31
Davey|Ubuntuall I had to do was put in the ESSID and tell it to use DHCPD07:31
Davey|Ubuntu-D07:31
BROKEN_LADDERChoubaka i've never seen anyone have a problem with usb flash drives in windows.07:31
scytheahhh... im going off of kwifimanager... its only showing a .b connection07:31
ZodiacWell, it detected the chipset on the card correctly07:31
BROKEN_LADDERyou just stick it in, and it pops up.07:31
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: i have a great program for you :)07:31
icemanwhats best media player for ubuntu ?07:31
Davey|Ubuntuivoks: ?07:31
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/07:32
BROKEN_LADDERiceman best?  that depends on your needs.07:32
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: check out wifi-radar package..07:32
Daylighthaterbob2 it's a laptopscreen :s which isn't positioned right :s07:32
Davey|Ubuntuivoks: whats it do?07:32
ivoksscythe: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/07:32
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ChoubakaMy brother has a usb peripheral which breaks if you plug it in the wrong socket.07:32
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Daylighthaterbob2 it's a laptopscreen :s which isn't positioned right :s07:32
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: scans for networks around you and calls dhclient on chosen network07:32
icemanoverall media player for mpg's ect ...07:32
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: or, you can set up IP manually07:32
gbicAnyone know of an implicit ssl/tls ftp client for ubuntu?07:32
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Choubakaie. windows needs to install drivers anew.07:32
BROKEN_LADDERiceman rhythmbox is a pretty good music library app, but it's got very limited functionality.  it won't give you a folder view, and it won't write tags.07:32
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: works much better and easier than network-admin07:33
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_gdarelWhat file('s) do I need to encode MP3's?07:33
Davey|Ubuntuivoks: now, I can just download the .deb and apt-get install /path/to/the.deb ?07:33
ivoksBROKEN_LADDER: get yout self quod libet07:33
Daylighthaterbob2: any other way, to position my screen verticaly07:33
yonilI've installed camserv, and now whenever i restart my computer camserv starts automaticaly with the apache server. how can i distable this ? (and also disable the apache server) ?07:33
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: no, download it and do dpkg -i wifi-radar*.deb07:33
razFor some myserious reason, 'Application installer' now takes forever and never loads the list of apps.. Has anyone ever had that? (checked forums..)07:33
icemanna, need for video .. playback ... not just music07:33
rg58smahttp://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/444107:33
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Davey|Ubuntuivoks: and how to run it? :)07:34
errrwhere would I need to report bugs on the fluxbox package?07:34
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Davey|Ubuntuoh, there it is ;)07:34
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: it's in gnome menu07:34
ChoubakaQuodlibet doesn't work for me :(07:34
HappyFoolyonil: you can 'sudo chmod a-x /etc/init.d/apache' or something similar07:34
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ChoubakaOr didn't when I last tried07:34
HappyFoolyonil: i just installed sysv-rc-conf, which is a neat utility for controlling what services startup when07:34
rg58smahow to install fluxbox in Ubuntu07:34
rg58smahow to install fluxbox in Ubuntu?????????'07:35
ivoksapt-get install fluxbox07:35
scytheivocks thanks for the link07:35
ivoksscythe: np07:35
Zodiacha ha07:35
ZodiacI hate when people say that07:35
errrrg58sma: its broken.07:35
_gdarelWhat file('s) do I need to encode MP3's?07:35
Davey|Ubuntuhmm07:35
Zodiacapt-get whatever07:35
Blissexerrr: almost surely there is a mailing list for that mentioned on the Fluxbox site07:35
Zodiacit is NOT that easy07:35
rg58smawhat is broken07:35
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ivoksZodiac: it's VERY easy07:35
errrBlissex: yeah but they dont care about fixing debian bugs.07:35
yonilHappyFool, I'm downloading07:35
Blissex_gdarel: 'lame' and a nice frontend.07:35
DaylighthaterCan anyone tell me where I can set the vertical allignment of my screen?07:35
anathemahey my friend is trying to get windows working in grub07:35
Daylighthaterit's an lcd laptop screen07:35
Blissexerrr: in that case on the Ubuntu issue tracker07:35
Daylighthaterit's one row low07:36
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anathemahe edits his grub conf...puts in the proper partition07:36
Hoxzercan somebody help me to install god damn java :((07:36
anathemabut it doesnt work07:36
BlissexDaylighthater: you cannot...07:36
anathemaany dieas why ?07:36
HappyFoolanathema: what's the error message ?07:36
errrBlissex: ok, I just wanted to see if I needd to report it to the packager or not. Thanks.,07:36
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anathemasec07:36
Daylighthaterblissex: no??07:36
Daylighthaterthats a bugger07:36
Daylighthater:s07:36
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BlissexHoxzer: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 as to asking better questons07:36
anathemahe mentioned something about not recognizing the fs type07:36
_gdarelBlisseex, That's what I thought.... Any reason I wouldnt be able to find it in Synaptic?07:36
raz'Application installer' now takes forever and never loads the list of apps.. Has anyone ever had/fixed that? (checked forums..) - Open to suggestions.07:36
DaylighthaterIf i'm at the bottom row, I can't see what i type :s07:37
BlissexHoxzer: also, it is a FAQ and there is a nice tutorial on the Ubuntu Wiki IIRC07:37
anathemaHappyFool, no error message07:37
anathemajust pauses07:37
Davey|Ubuntuhmm07:37
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anathemaafter showing what parameters it's booting up with (the same shit that was said in the config)07:37
anathemabut says unknown fstype07:37
yonilHappyFool, what are the "1 2 3 4 5 6 ..." columns ?07:37
HappyFoolanathema: err. does he have "chainloader +1" in the windows entry in menu.lst ?07:37
Davey|Ubuntuweird07:37
HappyFoolyonil: the runlevels ubuntu starts in. "rescue mode" is 1, and "normal" is 207:38
xozanathema: man grub... it has a good example of configuring grub to boot windows... and unless the actual errors are known, it's difficult to guess what's the problem07:38
anathemayes07:38
HoxzerBlissex: I already read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java and seems its not working at all07:38
anathemahe has chainloader07:38
ZodiacWhoa07:38
anathemawhat he did was this:07:38
HappyFooldon't paste here07:38
anathematitleMicrosoft Windows07:38
anathemaroot(hd1,0)07:38
anathemasavedefault07:38
anathemamakeactive07:38
anathemachainloader+107:38
ZodiacHalf of the drivers on my machine are undtected07:38
anathemashit07:38
anathemasorry07:38
anathematoo late..wont happen again07:38
anathemaill pastebin it07:38
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yonilHappyFool, why most services has 2,3,4 and 5 checked ? i need to disable all of them ?07:38
anathemahaha07:38
HappyFoolyonil: no07:38
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p88hi all07:38
HappyFoolyonil: most of those are probably important for the functioning of the system :)07:39
HappyFoolyonil: look for apache, and for whatever your webcam's service is07:39
p88hi, my xorg uses framebuffer drivers by default. how do I set it to use its own drivers? vmware doesn't allow full screen in framebuffer mode.07:39
anathemathat beeing done....anything wrong with that? his windows part is on hd1,0 forsure07:39
anathemaaccording to /boot/grub/device.map07:39
yonilHappyFool, I'm talking only about the webcam service ;)07:39
yonilHappyFool, I need to disable it in all 2-5 ?07:39
HappyFoolyonil: oh, i see07:39
HappyFoolyonil: well, only really in 2, but you might as well do it in all07:40
yonilHappyFool, ok thanks07:40
HappyFoolanathema: hmm07:40
anathemathey are sata drives07:40
anathemaif that means anything07:40
p88anyone?07:40
anathemaits /dev/sdb1 for windows07:40
anathema/dev/sda1 for linux07:40
xozyonil: you want the fastest way? just rename the symbolic link of apache/webcam in /etc/rc.2-5 dir07:41
Davey|Ubuntuivoks: it couldn't connet07:41
Davey|Ubuntuconnect07:41
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Davey|Ubuntuback to using network-admin ;)07:41
HappyFoolanathema: ubuntu is booting properly ?07:41
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ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: to what?07:41
anathemayeah hes in ubuntu now07:41
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icemanwhat video player are there ?07:41
Davey|Ubuntuivoks: the same wireless network as I disconnected from using network-admin07:41
HappyFoolanathema: can he mount the windows partition?07:41
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: does it have DCHP?07:41
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Davey|Ubuntuivoks: yes07:42
HappyFoolanathema: so that we know it's working, and it's where you think it is07:42
anathemalike no error message really, other than when its showing its diagnostic type messages it says unknown fs type07:42
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: and it apeard in list?07:42
icemanmplayer ?07:42
anathemarather than ext3 for ubuntu07:42
Hoxzeraargh apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5.0 is not working >_<07:42
anathemaHoxzer, you cant do that07:42
Davey|Ubuntuis there anyway to make my keyboard shortcuts work like the windows one? i.e. win+nothing == Gnome menu, win+r == run command, wind+d == show desktop07:42
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Davey|Ubuntuivoks: I saw no way to generate said list, there was none when I opened it07:42
anathemaDavey|Ubuntu, kind of...the win key has some serious bugs in gnome07:43
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: buy windows :)07:43
Davey|Ubuntubrb07:43
raz'Application installer' (add/remove) now takes forever and never loads the list of apps.. Has anyone ever had/fixed that? (checked forums..) - Open to suggestions.07:43
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: lol, you have to configure it07:43
Davey|Ubuntuivoks: oh, I have it, I'm trying to get away from it ;)07:43
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: it assumes that your wifi is on eth207:43
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Davey|Ubuntuivoks: ah, its on ath0 :)07:43
Davey|Ubuntuivoks: where do I configure it? I saw no option07:43
ivoksDavey|Ubuntu: check /etc/wifi-radar.conf07:43
Davey|Ubuntuexcellent :)07:44
anathemaHappyFool, he says it mounted perfectly07:44
Davey|Ubuntuthanks07:44
HappyFoolanathema: doh07:44
ivokshm... that would be nice feature...07:44
HappyFoolanathema: i am fast running out of ideas07:44
ivoksi could implement that...07:44
anathemadoh07:44
anathemawhy would it say unknown fs type07:44
anathemais that normal ?07:44
yonilanyone here has experience with setting a splash image to grub ?07:45
HappyFoolwell, i thought that if it was 'chainloading' it wouldn't need to read the filesystem07:45
anathemahmmm07:45
anathemawell he says it wasnt even like an error07:45
anathemajust a diagnostic type message that popped up as the thing displayed its info07:46
anathemabut what actually happened was just nothing07:46
anathemafroze07:46
anathemanot froze i guess, just didnt boot07:46
anathemasat there07:46
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rezzany greek here?07:47
HappyFoolif you remove the ubuntu drive, does the system boot ok?07:47
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HappyFooli.e., do you know that the windows install is correct?07:48
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anathemahe just recently installed it07:48
anathemathen installed grub07:48
anathemamaybe grub messed up the install info?07:48
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demian__yoo07:49
razum.. how would you uninstall an app from terminal?07:49
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demian__I need to turn off the demon sound manager....07:49
anathemasudo apt-get remove <app>07:49
demian__or something07:49
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anathemademian07:49
demian__anathema,07:49
anathemago to sounds in your preferences....07:49
anathemadisable the sound server startup07:49
DaylighthaterI've had an fonterror during first startup07:49
anathemathen in a console type 'sudo killall esd'07:49
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Daylighthaterttf-opensymbol07:49
demian__anathema, thnx07:50
Daylighthaterthis gave error07:50
anathemajust some font it cant find Daylighthater , probly not a big deal07:50
razanathema, thanky07:50
anathemaraz?07:50
anathemaoh07:50
Daylighthaterttf-bitstream-ver also07:50
anathemaheh07:50
Daylighthaterand ttf-freefont07:51
Daylighthater:s07:51
anathemattf are just fonts07:51
Daylighthaterjust passed07:51
anathemayou can install extra fonts if you wanna07:51
HappyFoolanathema: why did he have to install grub ? wasn't it already installed with ubuntu ?07:51
anathemaer yeah nevermind07:51
anathemahe installed linux on one hdd07:51
anathemainstalled windows on the other07:51
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Daylighthaterxfont just said: you don't have defomized fontpackages07:51
Daylighthater:s07:51
Rev_Fryhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3015  This looks like my issue.. and it looks like it is still unsolved07:51
anathemai thought windows would have overwritten grub07:51
Daylighthaterwhat should I do about that07:51
ivoksD[a] vey: works? :)07:52
D[a] veyivoks: it still wouldn't work. It found the wireless network (and somebody elses!) but dhcp wouldn't work :/07:52
raz'Application installer' (add/remove) now takes forever and never loads the list of apps.. Has anyone ever had/fixed that? (checked forums..) - Open to suggestions.07:52
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ivoksD[a] vey: hm... do you have dhclient?07:52
HappyFoolanathema: hmm, sorry, i don't what could be wrong. it sounds like the setup is correct.07:52
Daveyivoks: I hope so07:52
BROKEN_LADDERis all the stuff in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base being run every time i boot?!07:52
anathemadoh07:52
Daylighthaterbe back later... Barbeque now07:53
ivoksDavey: it wouldn't install without it07:53
Daveyivoks: ok07:53
ivoksDavey: u tried once or couple of times?07:53
_stealthanyone know of a desktop recording prog?07:53
razumm........... is there anyway to drag/drop to mplayer?07:53
Daveyivoks: many times07:53
anathemawhat happened happyfool is he took his linux drive out07:53
_stealthsumthin like fraps or camtasia studio?07:53
anathemathen installed windows on another hdd07:53
ivoksDavey: when it discovers networks, it relies on dhclient to get ip07:53
anathemathen put the linux drive back07:54
Daveyivoks: which I should have, right?07:54
ivoksDavey: did you run wifi-radar.sh or wifi-radar?07:54
Daveyivoks: I run whatever it put in my menu07:54
ivoksDavey: or from menu?07:54
ivoksah, menu... ok07:54
HappyFoolanathema: hm. i can't imagine windows is *that* sensitive07:54
ivoksthen it should work07:54
Daveyit doesn't07:54
anathemadoh07:54
anathemadunno what to do07:54
anathemawe wanna play ut07:54
anathemabut fucking skype uses OSS :(07:55
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ivoksDavey: it does to everybody else07:55
anathemai should send them an angry letter07:55
ivoks:)07:55
anathematell them to get the alsa stuff goin07:55
Daveyivoks: well, then maybe I'm special :)07:55
Daveyivoks: network-admin works fine anyways07:55
ivoksDavey: yeah, it works great while you have on AP :)07:55
HappyFoolskype doesn't work on ubuntu?07:55
anathemayes it works07:55
anathemabut it uses OSS07:55
anathemaso if we're talking on skype..cant hear sound in ut07:55
anathemastupid as hell07:55
Daveyivoks: I'm not planning on moving my desktop that often ;)07:55
HappyFoolah07:55
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anathemawhy they would use outdated sound system is beyond me07:56
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ivoksDavey: hehe i have laptop :)07:56
ivoksanathema: you can07:56
ivoksskype, oss, alsa: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32063.html07:57
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flummoxhey! first: sorry for my bad english, second: I know that this isn't the psi-support-channel, but i'd like to install psi running Kubuntu Hoary. whenever I try to install with 'sudo dpkg -i <packagename>' apt returns with an error that psi requires 'libqcal' but up to now I wasn't able to find this lib - does anyone has a hint for me?07:57
Daveyivoks: I did too, till last night :/07:57
HappyFoolanathema: sorry i can't be of help07:58
Daveyivoks: tried to flash the CD-RW/DVD firmware and it crashed and now I can't boot :/07:58
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abraxas77comoa ndas?07:58
_stealthflummox: u cant use synaptic?07:58
_stealthso taht it would get the dependicies for you07:59
flummoxit doesn't perform well for me and, of course, i hate the gui ;)07:59
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ivoks:))07:59
peaceyallhello07:59
_stealthflummox: what about apt-get via konsole?07:59
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flummoxi tried with aptitude too, universe and multiuniverse are in the sources.list, but it doesn't work08:00
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flummox-doesn't +didn't08:00
peaceyalli keep getting printing: unable to connect to SAMBA host, retrying in 60 seconds , when i print.08:00
peaceyallwhats wrong08:00
peaceyallthis is the error i get : "Printing: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR:  Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED"08:01
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dr_willispeaceyall,   you trying to print to a windows shared printer?08:02
peaceyallyes08:03
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peaceyalli forgot to sya that lol :/08:03
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rg58smasomeone knows another wm08:03
rg58smathat fluxbox08:04
rg58smaand gnome08:04
dr_willispeaceyall,  sounds like the windows machine is either not accepting the print requests or has some firewall.08:04
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peaceyallnop no firewalls and all ports are opened08:04
dr_willisrg58sma,  Huh?  thers dozens of window managers out for linux.08:04
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dr_willispeaceyall,   could also be a password issue.  or the problem may be with how cups is connecting to the shared printer08:05
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Daveyhow compatible is the X.org and XFree86 configuration files? will something work in X.org if it works in XFree86?08:05
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peaceyallwell dr_willis i have no password on my windows computer08:06
rg58smatellme one08:06
Daveyrg58sma: enlightenment08:06
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dr_willispeaceyall,  i always make users on linux and  windows with same name and password. :P dont forget to add samba passwords for the users also on linux side. - NOT sure if all this is needed.. but its  worked good for me.08:07
JStrikeenlightenment. Urgh08:07
goldfishDavey: should do08:07
dr_willishttp://xwinman.org/    - a HUGE list of all window managers.08:07
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Daveygoldfish: OK, thanks08:07
mishofSound doesnt seem to work, everything is telling me the device is in use .. what can i do ? :(08:07
rg58smaanother08:08
goldfishrg58sma: XFCE08:08
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mishofoh wait, sound working in totem, but not in xmms08:08
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mishofno matter what output device i choose08:09
dr_willisrg58sma,    -------->>>>>    http://xwinman.org/    - a HUGE list of all window managers.08:09
rg58smai have installed my card08:09
dr_williswell most all :P08:09
rg58smabut my tv is black08:09
Feanor-Hey guys, I just got Ubuntu and installed amaroK as my music player, but for some reason, I don't hear anything. Even though it says the song is playing, any idea what could be wrong?08:09
jasmuzHello all08:09
robertjFeanor: is the volume down?08:09
mishofHow can i check if a program is using the soundcard?08:10
Feanor-nope08:10
robertjFeanor: do other apps play sound?08:10
Feanor-I'm not even sure if other apps should play sound :p08:10
spanglesontoasthow do I switch the alias for alsa08:10
mishofrobertj, blah why dont you help me, ive asked the same question (and sound does work in other applications)08:10
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spanglesontoast?08:10
robertjFeanor: I'd try with rhythmbox first08:10
Feanor-okey08:10
JStrikeFeanor- : Does the default music player play sound?08:10
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jasmuzFeanor-: are you in Gnome or KDE?08:10
Feanor-I'm checking that atm Jstrike08:10
robertjmishof: well first of all, because I just got back from lunch08:10
Feanor-GGnome08:10
spanglesontoasthow do I switch the alias for alsa anyone?08:11
robertjmishof: and second of all, because your being whiny08:11
jasmuzFeanor-: did you check what means of sound its using, ALSA, OSS; or ESD?08:11
mishofrobertj, aight, thanks alot anyway08:11
Daveybrb08:11
robertjdoes amarok use arts by default?08:12
robertjor does it go to gstreamer?08:12
spanglesontoastanyone know how to change the sound alias???08:12
Feanor-I just tried using the default music player, it doesn't work. And it gives me the error that it doesn't have a plugin to play MP3 files.08:12
Feanor-Where can I get that?08:12
jasmuzrobertj:  think it does arts08:12
mishoffixed my problem by the way08:12
JStrikeFeanor- : Download gstreamer0.8-mad using synaptic08:12
robertjdoesn't it also offer a gstreamer choice?08:12
Feanor-okey, thanks08:12
jasmuzFeanor-: do you need a mp3 player08:12
jasmuzFeanor-: just download Xmms08:13
robertjFeanor: but yeah, if you just want mp3, use rhythmbox with gstreamer0.8-mad08:13
rg58smakde works in ubuntu??08:13
JStrikexmms, urgh08:13
dr_willisrg58sma,  yes.08:13
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Feanor-robertj, i just don't want mp3, but that's what it said when i tried to import songs into the player :p08:14
jasmuzrg58sma: yes it does08:14
rg58smagrax08:14
Davey|Ubuntuhow do I make it so GDM gives me the option to use enlightenment?08:14
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jasmuzrg58sma: de nada08:14
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rg58smajaja08:14
robertjRhythmbox will play whatever gstreamer has plugins fopr08:14
jasmuzDavey|Ubuntu: just install the enlightment that comes for ubuntu....it will be added to the GDM08:15
jasmuzrg58sma: de donde sois?08:15
JStrikeDavey|Ubuntu : E16 or E17?08:15
rg58smaargento08:15
rg58smatu dominicana??08:15
spanglesontoastanyone know how to change the sound alias???08:15
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jasmuzrg58sma: Dominicano (Rep. Dominicana)08:15
JStrikeDavey|Ubuntu : Either way, look at the Enlightenment website or just google it08:15
Feanor-hmm08:15
galidorhi everyone08:15
rg58smamucho gusto08:15
mishofFeanor-,  I recommend beep media player, its like xmms, only up to date with unicode support.08:16
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Feanor-i downloaded that gstreamer0.8-mad file... but it still doesn't work08:16
jasmuzspanglesontoast: could you stop repeating yourself?08:16
robertjFeanor: did you use synaptic?08:16
Feanor-yes08:16
robertjFeanor: and did you restart rhythmbox?08:16
Davey|Ubuntufound it, I think :)08:16
Davey|Ubuntujasmuz: it doesn't add it to the GDM08:16
spanglesontoastno one told me08:16
Davey|Ubuntujasmuz: just FYI08:16
spanglesontoastI really need help08:16
spanglesontoastwith it08:16
JStrikeFeanor- : You installed it via Synaptic?08:16
Feanor-Yes08:17
robertjFeanor: and restarted Rhythmbox?08:17
Feanor-not using rhythmbox08:17
jasmuzspanglesontoast: send me a query08:17
mishofFeanor-, you checked its on correct output device (oss/alsa/eSound) ?08:17
galidorI need help with CUPS please08:17
Feanor-Where can I do that?08:17
galidorcould someone helme?08:17
JStrikeFeanor- : Try with rythmbox (It is the default player)08:17
spanglesontoastwell basically08:18
spanglesontoastI need to find a way of stopping my soundcard cmedia08:18
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spanglesontoastand that my other one works08:18
dabahey.08:18
spanglesontoastinstead08:18
dabahow do I open a terminal in 9wm window manager?08:18
daba:-p08:19
JStrikeWhy dont you ask the in 9wm channel?08:19
galidorwitch is the password for the CUPS web administration?08:19
dabaWhy dont you just tell me what movide you are trying to see...(Kramer)08:19
jasmuzspanglesontoast: did you use the ubuntuforums.org08:19
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robertjFeanor: so does it work with Rhythmbox?08:20
Feanor-Well, Rhythmbox seems to require me to have the install disc, which I don't have atm. Any other player you recommend?08:20
dabaJStrike: hey, sorry, I am here often, I was just joking about the terminal:)08:20
Feanor-nvm08:20
robertjfeanor: it's installed by default and even if it wasn't it would be under synaptic08:20
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JStrikeFeanor- : It comes with Ubuntu. It is the default media player08:20
Feanor-no it doesn't work08:20
dabaCan Anyone help my with my ISSUE?????08:20
daba:)08:20
mishofFeanor-, just get beep media player08:20
Hoxzernonthing is working!08:21
robertjunless your using kubuntu in which  case you are in the wrong channel08:21
JStrikemishof : beep is a ui mess08:21
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Feanor-naw, i have rhythmbox, didn't know it was the default heh08:21
Feanor-but nope, it doesn't work08:21
naliothFeanor-: you can negate the install disk requirement by commenting out the cdrom line in your sources.list08:21
mishofJStrike, huh? whats the problem with it ?08:21
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dabaSlonfeanor, what doesnt work in it?:08:22
dabaSlonplaying music?08:22
Feanor-yes08:22
Feanor-can't hear anything08:22
dabaSlonIf so, well, yuou need codecs.08:22
Feanor-the song plays, but I can't hear anything08:22
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dabaSlonsound in other progs, tho?08:22
Feanor-nope08:22
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dabaSlonwell, obviously the issue is wider than that, then.08:23
dabaSlonwhat sound card?08:23
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Feanor-Sound Blaster08:23
mishofJStrike, bmp seems to be xmms with a boost which enables unicode  characters in song names, I don't see any problems with it ..08:23
Feanor-well, my soundcard works fine on my other HDD08:23
dabaSlonis it the only one in there?08:23
Feanor-yes08:23
dabaSlonwithin ubuntu as well?08:23
dabaSlonthe other hard drive...08:23
Feanor-No08:23
dabaSlonok, well, keep it focused.08:23
Feanor-other one has windows, this one has ubuntu08:24
Rev_FryIs powernowd only in the 64bit version?  I see a bug referencing it08:24
dabaSlonall right, well, paste the output of amixer to http://pastebin.com please, I will tell you iff the problem is just adjusting the volume, further than that, you will likely be best off going to the forums, they are good for sound.08:24
JStrikemishof : It has a horrid UI08:24
dabaSlonamixer in a terminal, and paste it to pastebin.08:24
Feanor-where can I get the output of amixer?08:24
dabaSlonRev_Fry: I have powernowd on ppc...08:25
dabaSlonPlease open a terminal, and type in amixer08:25
Feanor-ye08:25
mishofJStrike, ?? looks better than xmms imo08:25
Feanor-did that08:25
Feanor-just copy and paste it there?08:25
dabaSlonthat will get you the output, and please paste everything to that site. Give me the url once you are done.08:25
Feanor-k08:25
JStrikemishof : Yes. But not by much08:25
mishofJStrike, with the ubuntu theme its pretty sleek ;)08:25
JStrikeFeanor- : I assume your volume is not muted or low?08:26
dabaSlonjstruike, it is a gtk frontend to xms...08:26
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dabaSlonmishof: I dont see what he finds to be a ui nightmare...:)08:26
JStrikedabaSlon : I am fully aware of what it is08:26
Rev_Frydaba.. .okay.. in bug 1218 someone suggests removing that on their amd stopped hard locks08:26
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dabaSlongreat, thats settled then:)08:26
anathemadamnit08:26
anathematrying to get skype to work with arts08:26
anathemai keep gettng the message08:26
anathemaALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave08:26
SpriteSODAhi08:26
SpriteSODAcan someone help me?08:27
anathemabut dmix is open! it should work08:27
jasmuzSpriteSODA: how can we help?08:27
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SpriteSODAi've downloaded and installed the WineCVS.sh . ive installed the profile number 0. after all the installation08:27
SpriteSODAif i do08:27
SpriteSODAcvscedega08:27
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SpriteSODAit says that there is no such command08:28
dimeoanother noob setup question:  I've installed libdvdcss2 but DVD playback in totem is really jerky.  any suggestions?08:28
naliothdimeo: have you enabled DMA?08:28
anathemadimeo, have to enable dma08:28
Rev_FryHow do I keep things like powernod (in init.d) from loading?08:28
jasmuzdimeo: dont use totem...use mplayer or Xine!08:28
dimeohow do I enable DMA?08:28
jasmuzRev_Fry: when you boot ...ctrl+c08:28
dabaSlondimeo: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:29
dimeowill read thanx08:29
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jasmuzSpriteSODA: that isnt the command08:29
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Hoxzercan somebody help me to install java?08:29
jasmuzSpriteSODA: its wine08:29
SpriteSODAmmm08:29
SpriteSODAit changes the original wine?08:29
jasmuzHoxzer: did you read www.ubuntuguide.org08:30
SpriteSODAi dont think so08:30
naliothHoxzer: did the wiki or ubuntuguide not work for you?08:30
Hoxzeryes08:30
SpriteSODAwww.whatsup.co.il/index/.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=147255#14725508:30
Hoxzeryes it can't connect to the java servers08:30
SpriteSODAthey write there that to check it08:30
dabaSlonthis is a pastebin of amixer, if anyone has any knowledge of looking into that, please do, and tell me if anything is wrong: http://pastebin.com/291347 .08:30
SpriteSODAdo cvscedega filename.exe08:30
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dimeowhich do people like more xine or mplayer?08:30
Hoxzerit says "incorret login"08:30
dabaSlonHoxzer:  www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/java08:30
Amaranthdimeo: vlc08:31
dabaSlonthat is installing java08:31
jasmuzWine sucks....i tried to run it last name...and it went poo on me08:31
dr_willisdimeo,  depends :P ive some files that xine dont play and mplayer does.08:31
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HoxzerDaba: I already read that like 10 times08:31
Fator_Deedimeo: both have their supporters, and then there's other players too :-p08:31
rg58smaok08:31
SpriteSODAits not wine, its another version of it i think08:31
Amaranthvlc plays everything i throw at it except wmv308:31
naliothHoxzer: you need to download the bin FROM the server and execute it on your machine08:31
Amaranthand i know a vlc developer who has wmv3 working08:31
dabaSlonhoxzer, yeah, your issue seems weird, a little, what logging into Java, I never did that...08:31
jasmuzdimeo: because it gives better images, more seekable...and you have tons of options!08:31
HoxzerNali: what server?08:32
dabaSlonHoxzer: the computer the file is on...08:32
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SpriteSODAhave anyone here tried cvscedega?08:32
Hoxzeryeah and I dont know what comp it is08:32
naliothHoxzer: follow the inst on ubuntuguide.org for java08:33
dabaSlonSpriteSODA: I think there is a channel just for wine, here too. anyone know of that?08:33
dabaSlonhoixzer, I can show you...08:33
Fator_DeedabaSlon: #wine?08:33
SpriteSODAlol08:33
SpriteSODAonly 3 ppl there=\08:34
Fator_Dee:-|08:34
dr_willis#whiskey08:34
dr_willis:P08:34
UnreA|LAre know toolbars like mac os dock for gnome ?08:34
SpriteSODA=P08:34
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Amaranth#wine isn't the right place, you want #cedega08:34
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SpriteSODAaha!08:34
Gus_hello08:34
SpriteSODAthanks buddy08:34
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dr_willisUnreA|L,  thers some clones out that are similer. but i think they used the gdesklets stuff.08:34
dabaSlonUnreA|L: I think gdesklets does that, I have it installed, but I have not played around with it yet.08:34
JStrikegDesklets doesn't really have anything like the dock last time I looked08:35
dabaSlonhoxzer, do you know how to add a repository?08:35
dabaSlondidnt,.,..I dont know, I never used it yet...08:36
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dimeoI'm having trouble accessing my USB keychain.  Any suggestions?08:36
Gus_can anyone tell me if there is a way, using a Live version of Ubuntu, to save config files, and various stuff (like downloaded packages)08:36
dabaSlonwhat trouble?08:36
latiswhich fs should I use om my 250Gb hdd? ext2, ext3 or reiserfs?08:36
JStrikedimeo : What trouble08:36
dimeodabaslon system-->admin-->synaptic08:36
dr_willisGus_,  you could mount your hard drives and manyally copy things over.. but that can be a pain08:36
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jasmuzdimeo:  did you mount it?08:37
HoxzerNalioth: all I found was "how to install java for Mozzilla and it isn't also working08:37
dr_willislatis,  id say ext308:37
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jasmuzlatis: reiserfs08:37
dr_willis:)08:37
latisive heard that reiserfs is more "unstable" ?08:37
dabaSlonGus_: I think the last time someone asked about live cd saving config files, he got no as an abnswer.08:37
JStrikejasmuz : You dont need to mount it. Ubuntu does that automatically08:37
Gus_dr_willis, thanks for the answer =) i already mounted my drives to access my XP partition (boo XP user ^^)08:37
dimeoJstrike, I can see it show up under places, and it's like turns on, but when I open it... no cigar08:37
dr_willisdepends on what your needs are..08:37
dabaSlonlatis, use x308:37
Gus_dabaSlon,  that's encouraging =D08:37
dabaSlonxfs308:37
dr_willisGus_,  copying things to a NTFS partion - may not be doable.08:37
dimeojasmuz doesn't it get automatically mounted?08:37
abraxas77ubuntu use rpm or what?08:38
dabaSlondr_willis: ah, that is why, makes sense...08:38
dr_willisabraxas77,  no rpms. :P08:38
dimeouse .deb08:38
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JStrikedimeo : It gets automatically mounted08:38
latisdabaSlon, what does it have to its advantage over ext3?08:38
Gus_dr_willis, okay... admitting i'd create a FAT partition, would it then be possible ?08:38
LinuxJonesabraxas77, it uses .deb08:38
dr_willisGus_,  Yep.08:38
abraxas77how can install .deb?08:38
jasmuzJStrike: ive had to mount some08:38
JStrikedimeo : Strange problem08:38
LinuxJonesabraxas77, dpkg -i package.deb08:38
Feanor-Anyone know why no apps make sound for me?08:38
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dimeoabraxas use system-->admin-->synaptic08:38
abraxas77thank u LinuxJones08:39
LinuxJonesabraxas77, ;)08:39
Gus_the thing is: i don't have the courage yet to setup a dual boot, which means freeing space on the maptop etc... so i'd like to get the hang of the distro a bit more before doing it... but installing stuff everytime i boot is gonna get on my nerves =D08:39
JStrikeFeanor- : Is your volume up and not muted?08:39
toxicfumeHi all, i'm new to ubuntu, i installde it on my laptop ..but it wouldn't display and had troubles with my IPW2200B/G NIC...can someone help please? thanks08:39
dabaSlonHoxzer: this should be it, please tell me if taht does no work for you.. . http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre08:39
Feanor-As far as I know yes, unless it's default turned down and muted.08:39
JStrikeFeanor- : Check08:39
dabaSlonlatis, it is the best one, acording to one guy here, ivoks...you can pretty much use any of those, and you will be fine, use a journaled one, dont use ext2.08:40
Feanor-The volume is up, and it isn't muted.08:40
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yonilIs there a messenger for linux that has webcam support ? (gaim doesnt seem to have that)08:40
Gus_dr_willis, so admitting such FAT partition exists, how could i do to save everything to it when booting from the Live CD ?08:40
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Feanor-any idea JStrike ?08:41
JStrikeFeanor- : Right click on the volume icon and choose preferences08:41
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naliothHoxzer: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre    this works. i've installed it on several clients systems08:41
JStrikeThen make sure Master and PCM aren't muted08:41
dabaSlonyonil: what was that program called....it is gnomemeeting.08:41
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Feanor-how do i check if they are muted or not?08:41
dabaSlonthere would be a muite symbol.08:42
Feanor-there isn't08:42
JStrikeyonil : Gnomemeeting. But it isn't really a messenger like gaim08:42
dabaSlonthey are not, tho, I checked on your amixer;.08:42
Feanor-k08:42
johannesI'm trying to run warcraft 3 with the latest version of wine and it's complaining that It can't find "OPENGL32.DLL". What should I do?08:42
jasmuzyonil: if you wcam is supported...then gnomeeeting08:42
dabaSlonFeanor-: check this page out, search a little, there are good tutorials on doing sound there: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=833533 .08:42
dabaSlonmost webcams dont seem to work, I find.08:42
Feanor-okey08:43
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toxicfumeHi all, i'm new to ubuntu, i installde it on my laptop ..but it wouldn't display and had troubles with my IPW2200B/G NIC...can someone help please? thanks08:43
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dr_willisGus_,  not even sure if the ubuntu live cd can handle it. and proberly not with a vfat partition.  now with a Knoppix Live cd, and a little ext3 partotion - i hear you CAN install stuff and make changes that will survive reboots08:43
dabaSlonjohannes: regarding the error, or the lifestyle;)08:43
dabaSlontoxicfume: it wouldnt display?08:43
dr_willisGus_,  but considreing you must partition the hard drive anyway.. Hmm may be better to do a normal install..08:44
novaflarehuge storm shutting down08:44
dabaSlonits pretty nice weather here....08:44
dabaSlon:)08:44
toxicfumedabaSlon: yeah, after it scrolls through all the bootup messages, and loads X..it just goes to a black screen08:44
Gus_dr_willis,  hehe, but there's a big difference between having to free 2 gigs for saving stuff, and freeing a 10 Gb space to allow for a new partition ^08:45
LinuxJonestoxicfume, what video card do you have in that laptop ?08:45
yonil jasmuz, JStrike: yeah I know about that program, too bad they dont add the feature to msn messanger client in gaim, since many people who uses windows use that ...08:45
dabaSlontoxicfume: yeah, and what lapptop, too...08:45
toxicfumeLinuxJones: x700 64mb08:45
Rev_FrySo far so good... =/08:45
toxicfumedabaSlon: Acer Aspire 169208:46
toxicfumeLinuxJones: which is an ati08:46
Rev_FryWhere can I get a better system monitor?  That covers processor speed and possibly even temps and fan speeds?08:46
LinuxJonestoxicfume, lspci -v and tell what manufacturers card it is ie nvidia or ati ?08:46
dabaSlonthis may be handy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer :)08:46
toxicfumeLinuxJones: it's ATI08:46
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jasmuzyonil: that is one reason i dont chat much on Linux (it has improved my work time)08:47
dabaSlonyonil, it is a copyright issue.08:47
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LinuxJonestoxicfume, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:47
dabaSlonor maybe not, that laptop is not in the list:)08:48
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toxicfumeLinuxJones: thanks :) what are the chances that that page would fix my problem?08:49
JStrikeyonil : There is a version of gaim with webcam support called gaim-vv, but it is still experimental as far as I recall, and I am not sure where you would find debs for it08:49
LinuxJonestoxicfume, you will need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf rather than the one mentioned in that article08:49
toxicfumeLinuxJones: rather than which one?08:50
dabaSlontoxicfume: 100% if you can follow it...08:50
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LinuxJonestoxicfume, /etc/X11/XF86Config-408:50
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LinuxJonestoxicfume, Hoary uses xorg which uses the config file  /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:50
toxicfumeLinuxJones: well they have it mentioned there already that you need to edit the xorg.conf file if you are using Hoary08:51
LinuxJonestoxicfume, perfect08:51
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toxicfumeLinuxJones: thanks a lot for that, i'll do it now :)08:52
LinuxJonestoxicfume, gl :)08:52
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desrtanyone running X on a breezy box right now?08:53
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dimeoanyone use kwifimanager?08:55
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LinuxJonesdesrt, Breezy is broken08:55
dimeoI don't get why08:56
robertjLinuxJones: of course it is!08:56
desrtLinuxJones; i'm noticing :)08:56
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LinuxJonesdesrt, there are lots of changes taking place right now and it's gonna be borked for a while08:56
desrtusually it's not broken as bad as i find it broken today :)08:56
dimeoWhy is KDE stuff in synaptic for ubuntu when it uses gnome08:56
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LinuxJonesdr_willis, they are moving to gcc 408:57
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Riddelldimeo: it has KDE as well, see kubuntu.org08:57
dr_willisdimeo,  why are there dozens of other window managers in there as well? :P08:57
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dr_willisdimeo,  answer: this is linux. :P use what you want.. dont install what you dont want.08:57
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dr_willisLinuxJones,  ahh.. yes  - i see a BIG change..08:57
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dabaSlonor jsut get a big hd and isntall everything..08:57
LinuxJonesdr_willis, yeah :)08:58
dimeoI'm still confused why there isn't a WIfi manager included for gnome which is the default window manager08:58
dabaSlonlike me...except for the big hd part...08:58
dr_willisdabaSlon,  thats what i do.08:58
dr_willis200gb hd's are cheap these days :P08:58
dabaSlonya, me and you are totally alike:)08:58
naliothdabaSlon: can you loan me a few 500gb drives so i can install "everything" (or get close)08:58
dabaSlonI have a 160-, for windows...08:58
dabaSlonI never use it tho,..08:58
robertjdimeo: Network Manager does enough for most people08:58
dabaSlonI am right now, just by chance...08:58
dabaSlonI gotta switch that...08:58
dabaSlonnalioth: alas...08:59
robertjdimeo: and the corner cases are quite varied, which means it goes far down the priority list08:59
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naliothdabaSlon: having 1500 gmail accounts just won't do09:00
dabaSlonhaha09:00
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dabaSlonwell, with gmailfs...:)09:00
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dabaSlonbut, yeah, too many folders...and that.09:00
naliothdabaSlon: just wont do (even with gmailfs)09:01
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dabaSlon:)09:01
toxicfumeLinuxJones: can you help me? When i type the first command from that Wiki, sudo apt-get install, it says: E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx09:01
dabaSlonthats a crazy idea, tho.:)09:01
dabaSlontoxicfume: did you follow what it said, tho, perhaps you need to add a repositoory.09:01
dimeoI'm looking for a good notes organizer/manager in synaptic, any suggestions?09:01
toxicfumedabaSlon: but that command is the first step itself09:02
dabaSlonok, let me see.09:02
toxicfumehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto09:02
dabaSlondimeo, look into evolution, I hear it has that, other than that, search your synaptic.09:02
petroleumdoes anyone here use Amule?  or could possibly advise on a client to replace it?09:02
dabaSlonhey, thanks:)09:03
dabaSlonfunk, why am I not in ubuntu...09:03
dabaSlon:)09:03
dabaSlonill b back.09:03
HappyFoolxorg-driver-fglrx is in restricted09:03
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toxicfumedabaSlon: np :)09:04
HappyFooltoxicfume: you just need to enable the restricted repository. it's not difficult. You can either do so using synaptic or by editing a file called /etc/apt/sources.list09:04
anathemaWOO got skype working using arts09:04
tck_anathema, the linux version isn't has as good09:04
toxicfumeHappyFool: how exactly do i do that? what do i edit in there?09:04
tck_s/has/half09:04
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HappyFooltoxicfume: edit the file by typing 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'09:05
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toxicfumeHappyFool: did that, then?09:05
HappyFooltoxicfume: you should see a line something like this: # deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted09:05
HappyFooltoxicfume: remove the '#' at the beginning of the line (it indicates a comment)09:05
toxicfumeHappyFool: alright, i'm familiar with the # commenting :P I'll remove them09:06
HappyFooltoxicfume: then save the file, exit gedit, and type 'sudo apt-get update'09:06
HappyFooltoxicfume: and finally, retry that install command09:06
toxicfumeHappyFool: do i only uncomment the hoary-security main restricted url? or the rest too?09:06
Rev_FryI've tried shutting down powernowd and so far it's working.09:06
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HappyFooltoxicfume: that's up to you09:06
HappyFooltoxicfume: i recommend uncommenting hoary-security and hoary-updates as well09:07
HappyFooltoxicfume: i cannot recall if there are entries for universe and multiverse as well; if so, you can uncomment them too, but that's not terribly relevant now09:07
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dimeowhats the "equivalent" folder for "program files" in ubuntu?09:09
toxicfumeHappyFool: alright thanks :) i'm trying that now09:09
dimeoI'm being asked to specify a helper application09:10
HappyFooldimeo: program executables are in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin09:10
HappyFooldimeo: i'd look in /usr/bin09:10
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toxicfumeHappyFool: it can't seem to connect to the urls :S internet problem? i just connected the laptop via a cat5 wire to this pc09:11
HappyFooltoxicfume: try to browse the url with a web-browswer09:12
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HappyFooltoxicfume: what url is it set to ? something other than archive.ubuntu.com or security.ubuntu.com ?09:12
dabaSlontoxicfume: can you surf?09:12
dabaSlonare you on the computer?09:13
toxicfumeHappyFool: it's security.ubuntu.com and th.archive.ubuntu.com09:13
dabaSlonI guess not,...09:13
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toxicfumedabaSlon: i'm on the computer to which the laptop(running ubuntu right now) is connected to09:13
HappyFooltoxicfume: if the th.archive.ubuntu.com url doesn't work (i.e., you cannot even connect to it with a browser), change it to archive.ubuntu.com09:13
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toxicfumeHappyFool: okay, thansk09:13
HappyFooltoxicfume: however, you will need some sort of internet connection for your laptop for this to work09:14
toxicfumeHappyFool: I do09:14
lightboycan n e one with some fat and ntfs drives gimme a readout of their fstab and mtab files09:14
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toxicfumeHappyFool: how do i ensure it works though?09:14
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dabaSlontoxicfume: ping something from the laptop.09:14
HappyFooltoxicfume: well, testing it is easy enough: just point your browser (on your ubuntu system, obviously) at www.google.com09:14
HappyFoolif that works, point the browser at th.archive.ubuntu.com09:15
dabaSlonHappyFool: he does not have x, that is what hje is working on now.09:15
HappyFoolah09:15
dabaSlonping google.com, tho09:15
Fator_Deethen ping www.google.com09:15
dabaSlonright:)09:15
HappyFoolok, try wget http://www.google.com, or ping09:15
dimeosweet! got it working.  no I'm listening to shoutcast on xmms!09:15
toxicfumei tried ping www.yahoo.com and it said unknown host :/09:15
dabaSlondimeo, excellent:)09:15
hybridHappyFool: wget google?09:15
dabaSlonok, you are not connected.09:15
hybridHappyFool: what would wget do09:15
HappyFoolhybrid: wget is a command line http client09:15
dabaSlontoxicfume: wired internet?09:15
toxicfumedabaSlon: yes09:16
Shuddertrixwget would download the index.html for google if you did wget google.com09:16
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dimeoplaying DVD's, Divx, wifi too.   so far so good09:16
dabaSlontoxicfume: router?09:16
toxicfumei just tried wget www.google.com and it couldn't resolve www.google.com09:16
HappyFooltoxicfume: yes, there is a problem with your internet connection09:16
dabaSlonyeah, youre not connected. Ill get yo online, I think.09:16
darkauditanyone know if The Sims Online works with wine?09:16
Shuddertrixdarkaudit: It might with cedega09:16
dabaSlondarkaudit: try searching for a list, there should be one...09:16
hybridHappyFool: yea but are you goin to get a file from google09:16
hybridShuddertrix: ah09:16
dabaSlonhey, Shuddertrix.09:17
toxicfumeah damn :(09:17
dabaSlontoxicfume: router?09:17
toxicfumedabaSlon: i would appreciate that :)09:17
dabaSlonconnected wired to a router?09:17
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neofaxHello everyone!09:17
dabaSlonheyhey,.09:17
toxicfumedabaSlon: it connected to a windows desktop(this one i'm irc'ing from) via the lan cable..09:17
toxicfumeand this desktop isconncetde to a usual usb adsl modem09:17
ShuddertrixApparently, no one has rated it's playability on the Transgaming DB.09:18
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dabaSlonok, and the windows one has two NICs?09:18
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toxicfumebut i've isntalled ubuntu on a nother laptop before withthe samenetwork configuration..and ubuntu could access the internet easily09:18
dtygelhi everybody :)09:18
neofaxtoxicfume: Do you have ICS running properly on the Windows system?09:18
toxicfumedabaSlon: one nick..cause the router is acutally a usb modem, not a router09:18
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toxicfumeneofax: yup09:18
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neofaxOK, try running sudo ifconfig09:18
dtygelcan someone give me some hints on how to configure sound? I suddenly stopped to hear anything in ubuntu, one week ago...09:19
dabaSlontoxicfume: ah...and you have internet connection sharing enabled on windows?09:19
toxicfumeneofax: okay09:19
neofaxLet us know the first three octets of your IP09:19
toxicfumedabaSlon: yup sharing is enabled09:19
neofaxSuch as 192.168.0.???09:19
toxicfumeneofax: the laptop's ip?09:19
toxicfumeyes it's 192.168.0.*09:19
neofaxYes, the one that cannot connect09:19
darkauditwell... the setup's working :)09:19
dabaSloncan you ping the windows machine from Ubuntu, and is it a crossover cable?09:20
toxicfumei guess it's DNS problem?09:20
toxicfumedabaSlon: yes it's a crossover cable09:20
neofaxOK, at least we know you have a internal IP.  Did you manually set that up in UBUNTU?09:20
dabaSlondarkaudit: youre good, installed cedega?09:20
toxicfumelet me try09:20
toxicfumedabaSlon: yes i can ping the windows machine fine09:20
jeff25dabaSlon: why does it matter if it's a cross over cable?09:20
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dabaSlongreat, I think you should  get the files on this computer, and move them over to that one.09:21
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toxicfumeneofax: no, it was assigned by DHCP i think09:21
dabaSlonIll get you the list of the files that install with that binary.09:21
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dabaSlonunless anyone has a better idea.09:21
neofaxBecause a normalcable does not switch the first and the eighth cable so they cannot connect09:21
dabaSlonjeff25: I dont think it works otherwise.09:21
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toxicfum1sorry got disconnected09:21
dabaSlonthats fine.09:21
toxicfum1actually no, the ping didn't work :S09:22
toxicfum1it said the host is unreachable09:22
dabaSlonso you cant see the windows machine?09:22
toxicfum1i read wrong09:22
neofaxtoxicfume:  Do you still have that ifconfig you ran?  If so, what is the default gateway?09:22
phanterhello. I just made did a "sudo usermod -Gbin patrick". Now i cannot do sudo anymore... and no sound and ... Why is that wrong and how can I fix it ?09:22
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toxicfum1neofax: i don't see "default gateway" anywhere in the ifconfig command's results09:23
HappyFoolphanter: according to 'man usermod', -G removes the user from any groups not listed09:23
HappyFoolphanter: and your user needs to be in the 'admin' group to be able to sudo09:24
dtygelpeople: can anyone help me with sound problems?09:24
toxicfum1neofax: how do i set the gateway?09:24
neofaxtoxicfume: Sorry, try sudo route09:24
dabaSlontoxicfum1: you can type in sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces09:24
darkauditdabaSlon: no cedega... latest wine from sourceforge repos09:24
dabaSlonthat will open a file.09:24
dabaSlondarkaudit: oh, ok...09:24
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HappyFoolphanter: i think the easiest thing for you to do would be to reboot in rescue mode, do something like 'usermod -G bin,admin,<other groups> patrick', and then reboot into normal mode09:25
toxicfum1neofax: okay i typed it and got a result09:25
toxicfum1defaukt gateway is 192.168.0.1 which is correct09:25
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darkauditdabaSlon: and it's only the downloader... I'll know about the *good* stuff in an hour09:25
toxicfum1dabaSlon: okay let me check that09:25
phanterHappyFool: oke, I did not read the man page propperly (f*ck me indeed), but how can I get my rights back?09:25
dabaSlon192,168.0.1 is this computer?09:25
toxicfum1yes09:25
HappyFoolphanter: see my comments on rebooting into rescue mode09:25
neofaxtoxicume:  OK, so your IP on the windows machine is 192.168.0.1?09:26
HappyFoolphanter: your user ('patrick') can no longer sudo09:26
toxicfum1neofax: that's right09:26
toxicfum1and this computer accesses the internet directly09:26
dabaSlonput as the gateway the IP that interfaces the internet...09:26
dabaSlonthe other IP this computer has.09:26
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dabaSlonmaybe, but I wouldnt even worry about that, myself, I would just get the files you need for the x, then take it from there, once you are in a gui.09:27
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Feanor-Hmm, anyone know what is wrong when I get these errors in Rhythmbox? Could not open resource for writing. and Could not pause playback09:27
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phanterHappyFool: Is there a way to find out what groups I was a member of before ???09:27
toxicfum1dabaSlon: what do you mean? change the gateway address?09:27
Seveas Feanor- teach rhythmbox to use esd09:27
HappyFoolphanter: i'll tell you what groups my user is a member of. standby09:27
Feanor-How? Oo09:27
Seveasit probably wants to use /dev/dsp directly09:27
dabaSlonin that file, you opened with gedit, there should be a gateway entry is there?09:27
neofaxtoxicfume: OK, so your Win system is 192.168.0.1 and your ubuntu system is 192.168.0.2(let's assume).  Your default gateway should be 192.168.0.1 as it has the internet connection09:27
toxicfum1dabaSlon: let me look09:27
SeveasFeanor-, check r-b's preferences09:27
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dabaSlonneofax, it never worked here...09:28
dabaSlondid you ever get that to work?09:28
neofaxNow try pinging 192.168.0.109:28
dtygelI used to have sound working normally until last week. It suddenly stopped to work. No sounds at all. I've tested in windows, and the sounds are normal, so it must be some misconfiguration in ubuntu. Can anyone give me a help there?09:28
HappyFoolphanter: it's quite a list: adm, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, admin09:28
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toxicfum1dabaSlon: i can't open that file..says "Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: "09:28
HappyFoolphanter: there's also a group for your user, i.e., group patrick, which your user should be a member of09:28
toxicfum1neofax: okay09:28
Seveastoxicfum1, you cannot run GUI apps as root09:29
Seveasuse sudi09:29
toxicfum1neofax: it says destination host unreachable09:29
Seveassudo*09:29
phanterHappyFool: thanks ... you where a great help !!!09:29
HappyFoolphanter: np09:29
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dabaSlonhaha, sorry, toxic, I am a mioron...09:29
toxicfum1Seveas: my GUI isn't working( going to fix that after i can get the internet working)09:29
HappyFoolphanter: the main thing is to add your user to admin; once you've rebooted, you can use sudo to fix everything else09:29
neofaxOK, are you sure that the crossover cableisgood?09:30
dabaSlonyou cant open gedit whenm you arent in x...use another editor, if you want to, follow neofax for a few, I am gonna get you the packages you need for xorg.09:30
HappyFoolphanter: that is, rebooted back into normal mode09:30
phanteran other question. Why is my laptop not asking for a root password when booting in rescue mode? For security reasons I do not like that idea!09:30
toxicfum1neofax: prettysure it is..it was working fine when i botoed the laptop into windows..and since then i restarted into ubuntu andhaven't removed the cable09:30
HappyFoolphanter: that is standard09:30
HappyFoolphanter: you can set a grub password, i believe09:30
neofaxOK, try doing the following pico /etc/hosts09:31
toxicfum1dabaSlon: okay, let me know if i should try nano in that case :)09:31
toxicfum1neofax: okay09:31
HappyFoolphanter: and you'll need to set a bios password, and ensure good physical security for your computer09:31
toxicfum1neofax: then?09:31
neofaxOr sudo nano /etc/hosts09:31
toxicfum1oaky did it09:31
dabaSlontoxicfum1: is it a pentium type of deal?09:31
Feanor-Seveas,  can't find preferences in r-b it self, where is it?09:31
dabaSlonyour computer...09:32
toxicfum1dabaSlon: it's a pentium M laptop if thats what you mean09:32
neofaxAdd the 192.168.0.1 into your /etc/hosts file09:32
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Feanor-nvm09:32
HappyFoolphanter: see this for more info on securing your machine: http://ubuntuguide.org/#disableinteractiveeditinggrub09:32
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toxicfum1neofax: what name should i give next to it?09:32
Feanor-Does anyone know why I can't get any sound with any of the music apps?09:32
dtygel:( no sound.... no help?09:33
neofaxWhat is the name of the Win machine?09:33
HappyFooldtygel: what did you change on your system ?09:33
dtygelhappyfool: upgraded to hoary09:33
phanterthanks again !!!09:33
dtygelhappyfool: as far as I know, this was the only major change...09:33
HappyFooldtygel: so sound has never worked in hoary ?09:33
Feanor-Everyone seems to be working okay, but it doesn't make any sound.09:33
SeveasFeanor-, did you perhaps disable "Enable sound server startup" in system->preferences->sound??09:34
HappyFooldtygel: that counts as a major change ;)09:34
toxicfum1neofax: it's LAXO09:34
dtygelheppyfool: that's it. It worked fine in warty...09:34
neofaxOK, use that as the name09:34
Feanor-nope Seveas , it's turned on09:34
dtygelhappyfool: I typed this commands: aplay -l and lspci,09:34
toxicfum1neofax: okay, close the file now?09:34
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dtygeland everything seems to be fine...09:34
maxy_noobHi guys! A good notifier for gmail?09:35
HappyFooldtygel: have you checked whether the devices are muted ?09:35
neofaxClose the file then do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart09:35
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SeveasFeanor-, do you get sounds when previewing (in system -> preferences -> sounds)?09:35
dimeoSound Problems?  for some games i needed to type killall esd09:35
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Feanor-no09:35
toxicfum1neofax: okay, it's done09:35
SeveasFeanor-, is the volume muted? appplications->sound & video->volume control?09:36
neofaxNow try pinging 192.168.0.109:36
dimeoand in XMMS I needed to choose a different output driver09:36
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dtygelhappyfool: Yes, I've unchecked all the "mute" or "silence" in the sounds panel.09:36
HappyFooldtygel: hmm09:36
toxicfum1neofax: it says "Connect: Network is unreachable" :(09:36
Feanor-nope09:36
dtygelhappyfool: let me check again...09:36
Feanor-not muted09:36
vince_can anyone tell me what viruses clamav guards against - linux-specific or windows-specific (or both)? thanks!09:36
SeveasFeanor-, does the command: pgrep esd say something?09:37
Seveasvince_, both.09:37
dimeoHey whats the best "ghost" program to mirror my HD into a backup09:37
Seveasdimeo, dd09:37
Feanor-no09:37
toxicfum1neofax: I think it's cause i removed the cable and put it back in..do i have to restart now?09:37
Feanor-says nothing09:37
vince_seveas - thanls09:37
crimmydtygel: Sound problems? Paste your amixer output to http://pastebin.com09:37
SeveasFeanor-, your esd seams to be not running09:37
Seveasin a terminal type: esd09:37
Feanor-okey09:37
Seveasand see what happens when trying to play sound09:37
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Feanor-/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy09:37
Feanor-this is what it says09:37
Seveasahhhh!09:37
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Seveassomething else is hogging your sound driver09:38
vince_seveas, do you know of a gui front-end? sorry to be asking such lame questions...09:38
dabaSlontoxicfum1: you shouldnt have to.09:38
dtygelcrimmy: thanks...09:38
Feanor-ahh okey09:38
Feanor-can i find out what it is and how to turn it off? :p09:38
Seveasvince_, there are, but i don't use clamav so i cannot tell...09:38
toxicfumedabaSlon: oh okay09:38
crimmyFeanor-: lsof /dev/dsp*09:38
vince_seveas, thanks anyway09:38
dabaSloncrimmy:)09:38
SeveasFeanor-, try: lsof | grep /dev/dsp09:38
neofaxNo, you need to do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart09:38
toxicfumewhen i type ifconfig now..it looks like my eth0 port isn't shown anymore :(09:38
Seveasthe | is a pipe symbol, usually lodated near <enter>09:38
naliothdabaSlon: if you don't have a pile of half-terabyte HDs layin around, i would like to borrow your "advance model for testin" PS3 if you don't mind09:39
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Feanor-okey did that09:39
Hajuuhey09:39
Feanor-got:09:39
Feanor-COMMAND     PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME09:39
Feanor-beep-medi 10293 helgi    9w   CHR   14,3      7997 /dev/dsp09:39
Hajuuuhm09:39
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crimmyFeanor-: b-m-p is using the oss output, then. You need to change it to use esound.09:39
dabaSlonok, well, sudo ifdown eth0 toxicfume09:39
toxicfumeneofax: okay i did that already09:39
SeveasFeanor-, beep is hogging your soud, you can teach it to learn esd instead09:39
neofaxtoxicfume: That is because you unplugged the cable.  Plug it back in and restart networking.09:39
dtygelcrimmy: I sent it to that site.09:39
jasmuzFeanor-: kill the beep media player09:39
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SeveasFeanor-, open ~/.bmp/config09:39
dtygelcrimmy: have you got it.09:39
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dabaSlonthen, also, sudo ifup eth009:39
dtygel?09:39
dabaSlonyou ahve to give us the URL.09:39
HappyFooldtygel: you need to give us an url09:39
SeveasFeanor-, and search a line that starts with output_plugin09:39
crimmyFeanor-: change it in the sound preferences, then close b-m-p, then execute esd as Seveas suggested, then restart it.09:39
neofaxtoxicfume: And that is when it said network unreachable?09:40
toxicfumeneofax: already restarted09:40
SeveasFeanor-, it should look like:09:40
HappyFooldtygel: the one in the address bar after you submitted the text09:40
Feanor-in terminal?09:40
toxicfumeneofax: yes it said network unreachable after that command09:40
crimmydtygel: looking09:40
Seveasoutput_plugin=/usr/lib/bmp/Output/libesdout.so09:40
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SeveasFeanor-, any editor will do09:40
toxicfumedabaSlon: it says interface eth0 not configured09:40
HajuuI just "apt-get"'ed the unrar package... But any rar archive I try to extract, fails to extract every file... its really annoying me.. Anyone know what could be causing this, or know of an alternative archiving program?09:40
SeveasHajuu, use unrar-nonfree09:40
dtygelcrimmy and happyfool: problem solved!!!!!!!!!!!09:40
crimmyHajuu: from multiverse09:40
HappyFoolhowso ?09:40
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nekrataalhi09:41
dtygelhappyfool and crimmy: I think that in hoary it detected 2 soundcards09:41
nekrataalhow do i create a user to access mysql database?09:41
dtygelhappyfool and crimmy: and it decided for the alsa card...09:41
HajuuE: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate09:41
nickrudHajuu you want rar-unfree in multiverse09:41
toxicfumeneofax?09:41
nekrataali want to use mythtv but i dont know how to configure it...09:41
dtygelhappyfool and crimmy: I've just changed to the other card... and it worked... is it perhaps a bug in hoary???09:41
DaylighthaterK I got gnome runnign09:41
neofaxtoxicfume: The reason you cannot get an IP is because the laptop cannot see the Win system.09:42
crimmydtygel: cat /proc/asound/cards09:42
HappyFooldtygel: this is a bit over my head, sorry09:42
dabaSlonneofax: it may be so...09:42
nickrudHajuu http://pastebin.com/290425, use that as your sources.list, you'll be good to go09:42
Daylighthaterbut problem is... it's one row up screen :s09:42
dabaSlonit works, right??09:42
toxicfumeneofax: thats werd :/ windows xp on the laptop can see theWin system fine09:42
LinuxJonesnekrataal, >> http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=mythtv09:42
neofaxtoxicfume: When we put the 192.168.0.1 in /etc/hosts that should have forced that system to be recognized.09:42
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dabaSlonnickrud: what kinda sloppy pastebin is taht?09:43
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nickrudsh*t09:43
dtygelcrimmy: the result of the command you suggested is: dtygel@fbes1:~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards09:43
dtygel0 [I82801BAICH2   ] : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH209:43
dtygel                     Intel 82801BA-ICH2 with ALC200/200P at 0xb800, irq 1109:43
anathemagod this is frustratin! trying to get ut2004 to play nice wiht alsa...impossible!09:43
Hajuurestricted univhttp ://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=290397erse multiverse ?09:43
dabaSlontoxicfume: I would move over the files, do you ahve a fway to do that?09:43
Hajuu:/09:43
anathemato play an mp3 etc and still have ut2004 sounds09:43
nickrudHajuu: I grabbed my sample badone:09:43
anathemabug09:43
BurgerMannHi. Does anyone know if there's any easy when to install Apache with both MySQL and PHP support?09:43
dtygelhappyfool: it is also totally weird for me too ;)09:43
toxicfumedabaSlon and neofax: I guess i will just reinstall ubuntu09:43
nekrataalbut i want to use Mythgame09:44
neofaxtoxicfume: The ICS service in WinXP creates a very basic router/NAT/DHCP on your system.  The problem with that is you cannot tell what is not working.09:44
dabaSlontoxicfume: dont, nothing will change09:44
nekrataala module for mythtv09:44
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nekrataalbut i dont know how09:44
dabaSlontoxicfume: I suggest you get those files I sent you, and finish with the binary driver installation for now.09:44
nekrataali installed it but i dont know how to use it, or even how to use mythtv09:44
toxicfumedabaSlon: when i isntalled, i tried choosing the wireless network during setup, this time i'll try the ethernet09:44
HappyFoolBurgerMann: i'm not sure, but i imagine you can use synaptic to install all of those09:44
neofaxtoxicfume: Don't asdabSlon said, it has to do with the Win side of things.09:44
toxicfumedabaSlon: i don't know how toget the files here :S09:44
HajuuWhat server do I want?09:44
MrNonchalantCould anyone help me set up vncserver and vnc-java?09:44
dtygelcrimmy and happyfool: in "volume control" there are two devices: alsa mixer and oss mixer. Alsa mixer works fine, and oss mixer doesnn't work. I've got no idea of the reasons for that....09:44
dabaSlontoxicfume: well, sure, you can do that, keep those file...09:44
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nnnnnnhi09:45
dabaSlontoxicfume: do you ahve those two files?09:45
nnnnnnhow do i install java 1.4 for ubuntu horay09:45
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nnnnnn?09:45
BurgerMannHappyFool, yah, already did, but can't MySQL isn't avaible in PHP09:45
toxicfumeneofax: acutally, i think ubuntu can't see my ethernet port anymore :S09:45
neofaxtoxicfume: That pentium M laptop, is it a centrino?09:45
Seveasnnnnnn: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 09:45
toxicfumeneofax: yes09:45
crimmydtygel: that's your onboard09:45
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dabaSlonubuntu horray!09:45
nickrudhttp://pastebin.com/291396 Hajuu use that09:45
crimmydtygel: what other sound chipset do you have?09:45
nnnnnnoh09:45
eyequeueBurgerMann:  tnstall as usual, then use synaptic or aptitude to browse for the mysql-server and php packages you desire09:45
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dtygelburgermann: I had dificult times trying to install both apache and mysql in ubuntu. In the end, I decided to simply install xampp, since it's very very easy to install and is suited for me: I'm using it only for testing...09:45
HappyFoolBurgerMann: how about php4-mysql ?09:46
BurgerManneyequeue, I'll try09:46
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MrNonchalantCould anyone help me set up vncserver and vnc-java?09:46
BurgerMannHappyFool, I'll try =P09:46
dabaSlonnickrud: yeah, taht was totally slppy:)09:46
eyequeueBurgerMann:  have you dine the initial install yet?09:46
neofaxIs the wireless builtin?  If so, what chipset is it using?09:46
eyequeuedone09:46
nickruddabaSlon it was a joke ;)09:46
HappyFoolBurgerMann: note that that's in universe09:46
toxicfumeneofax: yes it's builtin, it's intel pro wireless 2200 B/g09:46
neofaxAlso, do you have a wireless Access Point?09:46
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nickruddabaSlon but it's history, can't have that happening again09:46
toxicfumeneofax: yup, it wors fine when i boot into windows09:47
dabaSlonyeah yeah, you are becoming sloppy, nickrud, one of these days, Ill come up with a better sources.list than you...09:47
dabaSlon:_09:47
eyequeueBurgerMann:  you may be looking for09:47
eyequeueBurgerMann:  you may be looking for php4-mysql - MySQL module for php409:47
nekrataal???09:47
neofaxDoes the Access point have a router builtinto it?09:47
nekrataalanyone knows how to use mythgame?09:47
nickruddabaSlon :)09:47
MrNonchalantCould anyone help me set up vncserver and vnc-java?09:47
toxicfumeneofax: yup, it's a 3Com wireless router09:47
BurgerMannI believe I've already tried installing it.. but I can't see anything since it's currently updating :S09:48
toxicfumefor some reasons it didn't work when i selected the wireless connection during setup09:48
neofaxWhy don't you just plug the laptop into that to get a IP?09:48
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neofaxBut first, do not use that crossover cable.09:48
dtygelcrimmy: I don't have any other (i thought so). In devices menu in volume control, there are the following options: "realtek ALC200/200P (oss mixer)" and "intel  82801BA-ICH (Alsa Mixer)"09:48
toxicfumeneofax: it's not in my house, shared it with my friend besides09:48
neofaxOh, OK.  Does ubuntu recognize the wireless NIC?09:49
toxicfumeneofax: i am not sure, but i guess it does09:49
toxicfumeitshows something when i type iwconfig09:49
crimmydtygel: you only have one card09:49
dabaSlonha09:49
neofaxWell, do a iwconfigand it should give you a IP.09:49
dtygelBurgermann: suggestion: simply install xampp in apachefriends.org . It works fine, with no hassle.09:49
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toxicfumeneofax: it doesn't gice any ip..and ESSID says off/any09:50
crimmydtygel: the reason you have two mixer selections in volume control is because by default, ubuntu uses alsa's oss emulation for esund09:50
crimmyesound^09:50
neofaxIt should be like wlan0.09:50
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toxicfumeneofax: i think the problem is the physical kill siwtch...which is turned off ( and won'tturn on even if i press it)09:50
BurgerManndtygel, thx for the tip :)09:50
neofaxOK, isthe Access point in managed or Ad-Hoc mode?09:50
toxicfumeneofax: managed09:50
dtygelcrimmy: ok, I see... well, thank you very much for the help! Now I can work with some music in background...09:50
hybridhow do you acces the ubuntu firewall?09:50
neofaxWhat channel is it on?09:50
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toxicfumeneofax: 1109:50
dtygelburgermann: you're welcome.09:51
neofaxDo you have WEP enabled and if so is it 64 or 128?09:51
dtygelFolks: Bye! Thanks for the help!09:51
crimmyhybrid: there is none by default, because no daemons listen on external interface(s)09:51
MrNonchalanthybrid: Ubuntu doesn't have a firewall by default09:51
moquiUbuntu rules!09:51
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toxicfumeneofax: nope WEP is disabled09:51
hybridok ty09:51
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dabaSlonUbuntu Horray!09:52
MrNonchalanthybrid: Ubuntu doesn't have a firewall by default09:52
neofaxYou should have a file that allows you to input all of these and the wireless connection should come up.  Let me look for the file.09:52
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toxicfumeneofax: alright, thanks a lot :)09:52
MrNonchalantCould anyone help me set up vncserver and vnc-java?09:52
crimmyMrNonchalant: on a Hoary box?09:53
dabaSloncrimmy: how come every few days I bork my sound?09:53
neofaxtoxicfume: It is located in /etc/wlan09:53
MrNonchalantcrimmy: yep09:53
crimmydabaSlon: I can't possibly answer that question...09:53
crimmyMrNonchalant: are you using gnome?09:53
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MrNonchalantcrimmy: yes09:53
dabaSloncrimmy: do you have any idea what I should stop doing?09:53
dabaSlonI mean, I swear, I ruin my sound every few days.09:53
SeveasdabaSlon, you should stop f**ing it up :)09:53
crimmydabaSlon: is it the same problem as before (with mixxx)?09:53
Enkiduhow do you make a new initrd.img? the kernel guide doesn't say how to but it is necesary to use the new kernel09:53
neofaxtoxicfume: You should have a wlancfg-DEFAULT and  from that you can create a wlancfg-ATHENEOS(which is my ESSID).09:53
dabaSlonI dont even kno, Ill tell you in a few.09:54
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crimmyMrNonchalant: hoary includes a vnc server installed by default. All you need to do is enable it in System>Preferences>Remote Desktop09:54
neofaxtoxicfume: Just do a sudo cp wlancfg-DEFAULT wlancfg-ESSID09:54
toxicfumeneofax: where? :S09:54
crimmyMrNonchalant: then you can just install a vnc viewer on another machine and access your Hoary box09:54
toxicfumeneofax: which dir?09:54
sebastiandoes someone know if there is a program for unraring .rar archives other than "unrar"?09:54
dabaSlonI screwed up my mixer it seems, lets see if it works:)09:54
Hajuulol09:54
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HajuuI asked that question like 5 mins ago09:54
Seveassebastian, unrar-nonfree09:54
crimmysebastian: unrar-nonfree in multiverse doesn't work?09:54
dabaSlonya...:)09:54
neofaxtoxicfume: It should be located in /etc/wlan09:55
Enkidusebastian; winrar ;)09:55
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eyequeuecrimmy:  i told you i'd get back to you if i determined what the issue was with alsamixer changing values.  as best i can figure, it was the result of changing names in kernel 2.6.12, and then reverting back to 2.6.1009:55
toxicfumeneofax: there is no dir called wlan09:55
sebastianno, I need something to unrar .rar 3.0 files09:55
penguinpartywinrar under wine? hehe09:55
Seveassebastian, wine+winrar perhaps09:55
neofaxtoxicfume: then do a sudo nano /etc/wlan/wlancfg-ESSID and change the settings to match your setup.09:55
yccheok_hi, how can i check for my computer current IP address?09:55
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dabaSlonI just wonder what I do to this machine all the time that I dont even know I do it...09:55
crimmyeyequeue: "changing names"?09:55
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Hajuui was actually going to do that haha09:55
yccheok_wat command i should use?09:55
moquiyccheok, /sbin/ifconfig09:55
neofaxtoxicfume: OK then just do a locate wlan09:55
sebastianmm, yea, I'll try that, thanks09:56
Hajuuthat was my last resort as to getting rars unarchived09:56
eyequeueseb128:  i thought the non-free one handled 3.009:56
xenobytesHas anyone in here solved the mplayer / libdvdcss problem in Ubuntu?09:56
xenobytesI can't get Xine to read DVDs even with the lib09:56
toxicfumeneofax: did that, there is no entry in /etc/09:56
dabaSlonyccheok: ifconfig09:56
xenobytesI've reinstalled it, Mplayer seems to be able to read it---but dies when it tries to load the sound module.09:56
crimmyeyequeue: it does. (And you might want to tell seb that you mis'tabbed him)09:56
dabaSlonsorry, moqui:)09:56
moquixenobytes, check drive location in setup09:56
moquidabaSlon, sorry for what?09:56
yccheok_thanks.09:56
toxicfumeneofax?09:57
dabaSlonnothinhg:)09:57
xenobytesmoqui, no, it's finding that--It sees the DVD title.09:57
eyequeuecrimmy:  i'd have to reboot to get the exact terminology, but apparently the "external amplifier" (or something else i don't have on this laptop) no longer has the same label?  it's something sensed on boot09:57
neofaxtoxicfume: Did you do a locate wlan?09:57
toxicfumeneofax: yes i did09:57
dabaSlonpenguinparty: sound works?09:57
neofaxtoxicfume: Ifso, do you have any entries?09:57
DaylighthaterK I've got two little problems with my GNome09:57
Daylighthater:s09:58
toxicfumeneofax: there's a list09:58
eyequeueseb128:  oops, ignore that :)09:58
penguinpartydabaSlon: nope no sound09:58
Daylighthaterfirst the easy one09:58
Daylighthater:d09:58
toxicfumeneofax: i mentioned, there s no entry in /etc/09:58
dabaSlon:(09:58
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crimmyeyequeue: it changed in 1.0.9rc, yes09:58
neofaxtoxicfume: Do you have any that say wlancfg?09:58
toxicfumeneofax: nope, not at all09:58
DaylighthaterProblem 1: I'v lost the menu's in the panel above, how do I get them back??09:58
eyequeuecrimmy:  okay, as best i can figure, that was the issue here09:58
moquixenobytes, and you say you have libdvdcss?09:58
penguinpartydabaSlon: tried with 2.6.11 and 2.6.10 and both with the rc4a alsa stuff . . . cant get this thing working09:58
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xenobytesVDecoder init failed :(09:58
toxicfume:(09:58
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DaylighthaterProblem 2: My Gnome is one row up screen, can I adapt this in my xorg.conf?09:59
crimmyeyequeue: that simply implies that the card definition needs to be updated in alsa-lib09:59
xenobytesmoqui, yes, but I'm looking through the mplayer error output and I have: VDecoder init failed :(09:59
nickrudDaylighthater the whole panel, or just the app place system menu09:59
penguinpartydabaSlon: works great with the ubuntu live cds both 4.10 and 5.0409:59
crimmyeyequeue: ideally, alsa-lib and alsa-driver versions should match09:59
Daylighthaterapp place menu09:59
dabaSlonDaylighthater: 1) right click on the panel, add to panel.09:59
xenobytesmoqui,  and then "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio" after it starts playback09:59
eyequeuecrimmy:  i probably ran alsamixer under 2.6.12, wanting tosee if i could have sound, then found that i needed to do the same once i reverted to 2.6.1009:59
jasmuzbye people09:59
dabaSlonbye09:59
jasmuz/quit09:59
neofaxtoxicfume: I am looking for that package that has the wlancfg file09:59
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moquixenobytes, do you have any other app running, like xmms that is using Audio or Video?10:00
Enkidudoes anyone know how to make an initrd.img?10:00
idle-How can I disable hotplug subsystem ?10:00
Daylighthaterok10:00
xenobytesmoqui10:00
toxicfumeneofax: alright, and my laptop just shut down, batter was over, plugging in ac now10:00
nickrudDaylighthater add main menu10:00
crimmyEnkidu: use mkinitrd10:00
xenobytesmoqui, yes.10:00
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xenobytesI'll give that a shot....10:00
eyequeuecrimmy:  i've tried to reproduce the issue here with reboots to/from, but as long as i don't modify alsamixer, nothing is changed once i revert10:00
moquiwell make sure to close those apps and only have either xine or mplayer running10:00
xenobytesnot running those...10:00
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moquixenobytes, make sure to close those and only use one at a time10:01
xenobytesmoqui,  same problem.10:01
Daylighthaterk that's fixed now10:01
Enkiducrimmy, just do that on the source directory where i did make menuconfig?"10:01
dabaSlonxenobytes: is esound the ouptut plugin for mplayer?10:01
moquixenobytes, have you googled this?10:01
xenobytesalsa.10:01
Daylighthateran my problem 2 is their a solution10:01
Daylighthater??10:01
dabaSlonchange it.10:01
xenobytesbut I'm trying to specify oss.10:01
dabaSlonwhy?? try specifying esound.10:01
moquixenobytes, have you reinstalled xine or mplayer?10:01
xenobytesmoqui, yep10:02
Daylighthaterthe VerticaleAligne is one row up :s10:02
dabaSlonDaylighthater: I think we need more info, go again.10:02
dabaSlongood.10:02
xenobytesdabaSlon, Esound you say?10:02
EnkiduHow would i change the color of the prompt so that when i sudo, root is red?10:02
Daylighthatercan I edit this in my xorg.conf??10:02
xenobytesI don't think I even have it installed.10:02
dabaSlonyeah, well, that is the only thing that works here.10:02
crimmyEnkidu: you could; please see the man page. make-kpkg (from kernel-package) is easier.10:02
Enkiducrimmy ok thanks10:02
dabaSlonxenobytes: I dont get how ppl dont, I do:-/ I am new...10:02
xenobytesdabaSlon ... .holy shit..10:03
mezhow do i install windows fonts10:03
xenobytesthat worked.10:03
mezlike Verdana etc10:03
Daylighthaterdabaslon is it clear??10:03
dabaSlonxenobytes: excellent, sorry crimmy...10:03
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crimmymez: install msttcorefonts from multiverse10:03
xenobytesdabaSlon, only problem is that there's no sound....10:03
Enkiducrimmy, it says man page doesnt exist10:03
dabaSlonDaylighthater: I am not good with xorg.conf at all, I have an onboard...10:03
xenobytesdabaSlon, but... at least it plays.10:03
dabaSlonno sound???10:03
dabaSlonis there sound in other apps?10:03
dabaSlondid yuo killall esd?10:04
eyequeueEnkidu:  applications > system tools > root terminal10:04
xenobytesnope.10:04
dabaSlonopen a term and type in esd.10:04
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xenobytesdabaSlon, makes noise...10:04
dabaSlonk, try mplayer now10:04
eyequeueEnkidu:  then, edit > current profile > colors10:04
DaylighthaterCan somebody tell me what I have to type in my xorg.conf at Section Monitor10:04
dabaSlonmez, several ways, you can copy the .ttf files into a folder...that works...10:05
xenobytesdabaSlon, nothing.10:05
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Daylighthaterfor a screen with max resolution of 800*60010:05
crimmyEnkidu: you need th einitrd-tools package from main10:05
neofaxtoxicfume: The package is linux-wlan-ng10:05
dabaSlonI dont know which folder...10:05
crimmyEnkidu: the, rather10:05
coco_hello10:05
dabaSlonhey10:05
RootsLINUXDoes ubuntu not define the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH envar by default?10:05
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dabaSlonxenobytes: I didnt catch, so sound works in other apps...10:05
toxicfumeneofax: but how do i get any package now that ubuntu can't connect anywhere :(10:05
Hajuuhow do I use unrar-nonfree?10:05
dabaSlonI mean, if esd made a sound...you have to leave it running, did you?10:05
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coco_How can I install the nvidia.com driver in ubuntu, I have to make a personal kernel like in debian ?10:06
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xenobytesdabaSlon, sound is working fine in other apps (asla). the esd command makes noise.10:06
crimmyRootsLINUX: no, why should it?10:06
eyequeueHajuu:  after installation, type "man unrar"10:06
dabaSlontoxicfume: welkl, you already have the ones you need fo the binary driver...10:06
xenobytesdabaSlon, I did.10:06
Enkiducrimmy, it says i already have initrd-tools10:06
crimmycoco_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:06
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crimmyEnkidu: man mkinitrd10:06
eyequeueHajuu:  typically unrar foo.rar, iirc10:06
coco_crimmy, thanks mate10:06
Enkiducrimmy, ok that worked10:06
toxicfumedabaSlon: oh okay, then how do i isntall them?10:06
RootsLINUXcrimmy, because I'm a developer :P10:07
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dabaSlonput them on the ubuntu machine.10:07
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Seveascoco_, the binary driver provided by ubuntu is the latest, you do NOT have to use things downloaded from nvidia.com10:07
crimmyRootsLINUX: ...and?10:07
dabaSlonI told you those things...I gave you the one file myself, and gave you a link to the otehr one.10:07
toxicfumedabaSlon: got no removalbe media at the moment, ugh.10:07
RootsLINUXand I thought /usr/lib, etc. should be listed in that envar10:07
dabaSlonwell, figure it out, I cant help you there...10:07
phxguycan anybody help me out? My Icons dont showup anywhere not even in my kicker panel10:07
dimeoanyone know if mounting GMail as a drive still works?10:07
dabaSlonweird that you cant get online, tho.10:07
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dabaSlonI mean, hey...10:07
dabaSlonI got it...10:07
toxicfumedabaSlon: okay give me a sec10:07
dabaSloncrossover cable?10:07
Hajuuyay10:07
crimmyRootsLINUX: no, that's the default and thus doesn't need to be specified.10:07
Hajuuthat works great10:07
Hajuuthanks again guys10:07
MrNonchalantcrimmy: Have you said anything further? I needed help with vncserver and vnc-java on a Hoary Gnome desktop.10:08
phxguydimeo: didn't know you could mount gmail as a drive?10:08
toxicfumedabaSlon: yes itas cross cable10:08
thefinnis anyone successfully using an Intell 900 series graphics adapter with xorg 6.8.210:08
coco_Seveas, for the momment I use free driver 'nv' and I would like to install the 'nvidia' what the name pakage ?10:08
crimmyMrNonchalant: did you read what I typed regarding System>Preferences>Remote Desktop?10:08
dabaSlontoxicfume: lets get the local netowrk working.10:08
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Seveascoco_, are you on intel or amd (the processor)?10:08
dabaSlonCan you open the windows thing, and set it up for manual with the IP address as you said.10:08
toxicfumedabaSlon: that'd be great if it does:)10:08
dabaSlonI dont see why not.10:08
MrNonchalantcrimmy: Er, no. Missed that.10:08
toxicfumedabaSlon: what thing?10:08
dabaSlonUnless something is funked.10:08
dabaSlonpm?10:09
toxicfumesure10:09
dabaSlonI like pressing enter:)_10:09
crimmyMrNonchalant: ...yeah, above, I answered both questions.10:09
coco_Seveas, AMD10:09
MrNonchalantcrimmy: Having trouble finding it, does X-Chat keep a log?10:09
crimmyholysmokes: it works with a few limitations afaik10:09
eyequeueHajuu:  unrar x foo.rar, now that i check10:10
darkauditwill know in about 15 minutes if TSO will run in WINE10:10
Seveascoco_, install the package: linux-k710:10
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holysmokescrimmy: changelog for 6.8.2 indicates it is supported with the i810 driver.. for me, the server comes up and i hear gnome booting, but i get nothing on the display10:10
Seveascoco_, that will keep kernel & driver up-to-date10:10
crimmyMrNonchalant: scroll up about 20 minutes10:10
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crimmyholysmokes: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you?10:11
MrNonchalantcrimmy: I can't scroll up that far, it cuts off10:11
coco_Seveas, /proc/cpuinfo say it's AMD-K610:11
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sebastianto whoever tiped me about wine/winrar a moment ago: It worked! thanks alot!10:11
coco_Seveas, it's ok anyway ?10:11
Seveascoco_, yes10:11
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holysmokescrimmy: not much.. doesn't show any errors, a couple warnings but nothing catastrophic10:11
Hajuuchmod -R hajuu:hajuu /home/hajuu10:12
HajuuWhats wrong with that?10:12
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crimmyMrNonchalant: ok, then I'll repeat it now. Hoary includes a vnc server by default called Vino. Look in System>Preferences>Remote Desktop.10:12
crimmyMrNonchalant: then you can install any vnc viewer to access your Ubuntu machine remotely.10:12
coco_Seveas, ok I install it, and after that I have to install nvidia-glx innit ?10:12
SeveasHajuu, i think you mean chown10:12
Hajuuoh yeah10:12
Hajuuheh10:12
neofaxtoxicfume: Try going to this website to setup your wireless lan: http://www.employees.org/~kousik/Hacks/linux_on_4002NLCi.html10:12
holysmokescrimmy: i can change the driver to vesa and X works just fine, but i was kind of hoping for at least a little acceleration ;)10:12
eyequeueHajuu:  i think you want chown not chmod10:12
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Seveascoco_, the nvidia module is in the restricted-modules package. afaik you enable it with the command: sudo nvidia-glx-enable10:13
toxicfumeneofax: sure, thanks10:13
MrNonchalantcrimmy: Alright, what about a java applet server package? Does one exist?10:13
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neofaxtoxicfume: Here is one to setup the ICS:  http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/27321.html10:13
MrNonchalantFor Vino, that is.10:13
crimmyholysmokes: right, but only the log from i810 is useful...10:13
eyequeuesebastian:  btw, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree10:13
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coco_Seveas, ok thx10:13
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yccheokhow can i make my linux wallpaper change everyday automatically?10:14
neofaxtoxicfume: It is exactly as we said, but try setting the IP manually to 192.168.0.2 and then changing the route.10:14
toxicfumeneofax: alright, i'll try that again10:14
holysmokescrimmy: yeah, the log from starting x with i810 doesn't show any errors, just a couple or warnings.. the server seems to come up just fine with i810 as i can hear my desktop coming up and i have to shutdown the server manually10:14
xenobytesdabaSlon, I get partial playback in Totem if I select individual vobs....but it skips around and acts really crazy.10:15
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crimmyMrNonchalant: sure, there's vnc-java in multiverse. Why do you want that?10:15
holysmokescrimmy: i'll go grab make a copy of the i810 log10:15
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BurgerMann:S10:16
MrNonchalantcrimmy: Ah, here's what I was really asking. I have that installed (vnc-java), how do I get it to work? The environment I'm planning on using to access my desktop doesn't allow installations.10:17
BurgerMannSince I've updated using Synaptic Firefox began to act weird :s10:17
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BurgerMannI get some kinda XML falt when trying to view certain pages10:17
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HappyFoolBurgerMann: can you give a url of such a page ?10:17
NetwrkMonkeyhow do i get the cd-burning app in gnome to work? it worked in 4.10 but not in warty10:18
NetwrkMonkeyi'm getting a cdrecord error10:18
crimmyMrNonchalant: you'll need to find an installation of vnc-java on your workstation that allows you to access your Ubuntu desktop.10:18
BurgerMannHappyFool, sourceforge acutally did it when I tried to download something..10:18
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BurgerMannHmn..10:18
crimmyMrNonchalant: note that you don't need to install anything additional on your Ubuntu desktop.10:18
NetwrkMonkeycdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.10:19
NetwrkMonkeycdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().10:19
dabaSloncdrecord is the app, I take it..:)10:19
MrNonchalantcrimmy: Sorry, maybe I'm not being clear. I used to have it on my windows install that you could access a web server that served up a java applet that allowed you to view that computer.10:20
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yucekhi,10:20
yucekhow can I configure my sound in ubuntu?10:21
crimmyMrNonchalant: ok, I've not used anything like that, so you'll need to read the vnc-java docs10:21
yucekit says there is no mixer or device when I tried to volume up in gnome10:21
crimmyyucek: what sound card?10:21
MrNonchalantcrimmy: I did. They were astoundingly short and uninformative.10:21
yucekhmm..10:21
yucekI dont know.10:21
MrNonchalantcrimmy: Thanks for the help anyway.10:21
crimmyMrNonchalant: Is Google any help?10:21
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yucekit is onboard, let me checek10:21
MrNonchalantcrimmy: Not so far.10:21
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BurgerMannOh.. my firefox download window is screwed up :s10:23
BurgerMannI can't download anything10:23
BurgerMann=(.. so much for DSL10:23
yucekit is a dell optiplex GX1, but I could not find anything about10:24
yucekthe sound card10:24
crimmyyucek: paste the output of lspci -v onto http://pastebin.com10:24
yucekhttp://pastebin.com/29141910:25
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kspMrNonchalant: It should be included with the VNC server - try http://server:580110:25
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yucekhmmm... it is not a php code ;)10:26
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shido6I LOVE UBUNTU10:27
shido6no turning back now10:27
shido6installing mac os x10:27
shido6on it10:27
shido6and its speedy10:27
shido6faster than on windows10:27
shido6but I dont use the ppc included in synaptic10:28
shido6pre410:28
crimmyyucek: ok, you have an isa sound chipset10:28
shido6works best10:28
crimmyyucek: is PnP enabled in bios?10:28
yuceksorry, but what is PnP10:28
crimmyplug n' play10:28
Seveasplug & play10:28
BurgerMannthx for the tip on xampp, HappyFool kewl project10:28
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm still can't get ubuntu to load into my secondary pc10:29
Pop_pa_FrEaKkeeps freezing10:29
yucekI dont know, so should I restart and enable that10:29
ivoksbye10:29
kas11aka plug & pray10:29
Enkiducrimmy, i cant figure out how to use mkinitrd?10:29
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crimmyEnkidu: the man page outlines its usage10:29
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alejandroshido6: I also love ubuntu until I update packages and all my system is broken. :))10:30
crimmyalejandro: for Hoary?10:30
TezkahI have two mozirra firefoxes installed10:30
Tezkahyay10:30
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm does Setting the System Clock using Hardware Clock always run twice when booting twice ?10:31
alejandrocrimmy: when I used breeze, although it's unstable, it's more unstable than debian sid.10:31
crimmyPop_pa_FrEaK: well yes, if you boot twice, it runs each time you boot, so it runs twice total...10:31
alejandrocrimmy: later I come back to hoary.10:32
Pop_pa_FrEaKno everytime I boot10:32
Pop_pa_FrEaKit does this10:32
crimmyalejandro: well, yes, we're in the middle of toolchain transition for Breezy...10:32
dabaSlonwell, Pop_pa_FrEaK, you meanonce every time?10:32
jeff25is it possible to install user mode linux in ubuntu?10:32
BurgerMannWhich businessphone is most compatible with KDE?10:32
Pop_pa_FrEaKno twice... once before cleaning up ifupdown and just after setting up general console font10:33
crimmyjeff25: yes10:33
jeff25crimmy: is there a .deb for it10:33
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jeff25crimmy: or should I just compile it10:33
alejandrocrimmy: currently I can't install any gnome application, I had serious problem of the previous update in breeze.10:33
BurgerMannI need some Korganizer synching with my cell phone10:33
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alejandrocrimmy: now it seems it's working with kde/xorg in hoary.10:33
rg58smahi someone knows10:34
dabaSlonalways run twice when booting twice ? is what you ahd said, I thouhgt it was kinda funny. Not sure, tho.10:34
jeff25crimmy: I want to test out some driver code i'm writing without hosing my whole machine10:34
rg58smahow to  stop the X-windoiws10:34
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rg58smatu run sh Nvidia.run10:34
Pop_pa_FrEaKand when it tryies to set the system clock the second time it freezes up10:35
Pop_pa_FrEaKtries*10:35
crimmyalejandro: yeah, see topic about Breezy10:35
alejandroanyway I would like that you can make something like an emerge -e world. :)10:35
JStrikealejandro : Why do you think the topic is as it is if you expect breezy to work?10:35
Shuddertrixrg58sma: if it's a kernel installed by Ubuntu, it already has the nvidia module (just run sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings)10:35
TezkahE: Couldn't find package internet-explorer10:35
crimmyjeff25: check packages.ubuntu.com10:35
Enkiducrimmy, i swear i've read that file 10 times but i cant figure out how to just make it from the /usr/src/linux directory where i made the kernel10:35
crimmysorry, I need to run now10:35
jeff25crimmy: ok thx10:35
alejandroJStrike: yeah, I know, but it was late. :)10:35
crimmyEnkidu: there's a usage line at the top. Sorry, I need to run.10:36
Shuddertrixrg58sma: if not, pres CTRL+ALT+F2, login, sudo killall gdm, sudo sh NVIDIA*.run10:36
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maxy_nooblost my panel ... :( How do I get it back?10:39
dabaSlongnome-panel10:39
dabaSlonhow did you lose it?10:39
maxy_noobya, sorry10:39
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maxy_noobdeleted by accident (remove panel)10:39
maxy_noobI wanted to remove an item on the panel10:39
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Seveasmaxy_noob, from another panel, add a new one10:40
Seveasjust rightclick & select new panel10:40
maxy_noobbut the whole bar disappeared.10:40
Seveasyou have 2 by default10:40
Seveasso use the other one :)10:41
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maxy_noobk, figured it out10:41
alejandroyou know if I can use any command to reinstall every package in the system and rebuild the package database? (something similar to the emerge -e world in gentoo)10:41
maxy_noobthanks10:41
Seveasalejandro, why would you want that?10:41
dabaSlonsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:41
dabaSlonor, teh three button dance:)10:41
alejandroSeveas: when your system is completely broken. :)10:42
naliothbbl10:42
alejandroSeveas: like now when I update to breeze and I want to come back to hoary.10:42
dabaSlonooh, reinstall.10:42
alejandrono, reinstall is not the right solution. :)10:42
nickrudlol, I love when I drop in on good ones10:43
Seveasalejandro, you might try dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1 | apt-get install --reinstall10:43
Seveasalejandro, you might try dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1 | xargs apt-get install --reinstall10:43
imaekIs there a .CHM reader for Linux?10:43
alejandroSeveas: ah ok, nice.10:43
dabaSlonxchm10:43
Firetechthe apt-system isn't built for downgrades...10:43
zenroxFiretech,  yet!!10:43
zenroxlol10:43
SeveasFiretech, that's not what he's doing :)10:43
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FiretechSeveas: [22:42:43]  <alejandro> Seveas: like now when I update to breeze and I want to come back to hoary.10:44
Seveasoooh....10:44
Seveasmissed that line10:44
Seveasalejandro, what i typed reinstalls the current version of everything. There is *no* way you can downgrade a complete system10:44
BurgerMannWhat's the European charencoding?.. something like ISO-9660-1 ?10:44
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Seveaswest-european is iso 8859-1 or 8859-1510:45
alejandroSeveas: the problem when breeze has wrong packages and you have failed dependencies.10:45
Seveasalejandro, read the topic: DO NOT use breezy10:45
Seveasthere are 3 major transitions going on right now10:45
alejandroSeveas: and if it's late? ;)10:45
Firetechthe command you specified would reinstall non-purged packages too, that isn't always what one want...10:45
Seveasalejandro, reinstall is your only option10:45
BurgerMannyeh, but I'm danish and we decided to add a few extra letters to our alphabet10:45
alejandroSeveas: I dont think I will be the only user to thing than sid is the same as breezy.10:46
zenroxSeveas,  or learn how to pin to older packages10:46
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BurgerMannlike .. It's should be ind iso 9660 i think, if 9660 exists10:46
Seveasalejandro, well, there aren't many users so far...10:46
alejandroSeveas: ok, ok, the same happens if you want to reinstall a package of another tree, you can have problems (i mean with a sid tree in ubuntu)10:46
alejandrofor example to use freenx.10:46
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Seveassid is much more stable than breezy right now10:46
alejandro(freenx is not included in ubuntu yet)10:46
SeveasBurgerMann, why don't you just use unicode?10:47
ech0why do I keep getting a broken package error: http://pastebin.com/29142410:47
Shuddertrixsid has probably been around much longer then breezy, for sure.10:47
alejandroSeveas: Yeah, if I knew it, I wouldnt changed from gentoo to ubuntu.10:47
desrts/probably //10:47
s00dHi, I was wondering if anybody could point me to further reading about how to tweak my DVD drive? I've enabled DMA on the drive, but playback is still choppy. It pauses consistently every few frames or so.10:47
BurgerMannSeveas what's that.. UFT-8 ? :s.. I don't know my way around all these silly standards =(10:47
SeveasShuddertrix, given that both warty and hoary are also based on sid, well... yes :)10:47
desrtbreezy is a *mess* right now10:47
desrtit's having a particularly bad week :)10:47
FiretechSeveas: (about Unicode) The problem is that not many are using unicode on IRC...10:47
SeveasBurgerMann, that's utf-810:48
BurgerMann... that's the good thing about standards.. there's always so many to choose from :s10:48
SeveasFiretech, hoary uses utf-8 as standard :)10:48
Firetechat least not on some networks10:48
BurgerMannSeveas, thx' I'll do that =D10:48
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ShuddertrixMy tooth really hurts.. it's been getting really bad lately..10:48
andreas_Does anyone know how to search for referrers for a site?10:48
SeveasBurgerMann, do a dpkg-reconfigure locales to install the UTF8 locales10:48
nickrudalejandro you can use aptitude to fix those dependencies, but it's very tedious10:48
FiretechSeveas: I know, that, but while mirc (which should be the most used IRC client for windows) doesn't support it...10:48
ShuddertrixJust said "sid" out loud and got this whole shiver of pain10:49
Seveasyou need dk_DK.UTF-8 or da_DA.UTF-810:49
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BurgerMannSeveas I should be there10:49
FiretechI wonder if it isn't da_DK?10:49
BurgerMannI installed Apache and needed it to use a UTF10:49
alejandronickrud: ok, thanks. :)10:50
jeff25too bad their is no transcode package :/10:50
Seveas <-- burgermann, if those look like characters from chinese charsets, you use UTF-8 already10:50
andreas_Roedgroed with whipped cream for the lot of you guys!10:50
BurgerMannYe they do :P10:50
ShuddertrixWhatever font eterm is using doesn't show that right ;)10:50
scythehaving issues with hotplug, can someone help?10:50
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BurgerMannSeveas, what I needed to know is what to use in my apache httpd configuration file :P.. the pages I see on my server is screwy since it's using western european charsets10:51
eyequeueSeveas:  btw, how did you enter those?10:51
Shuddertrixbrb10:51
Seveaseyequeue, ctrl+shift+random number :)10:51
BurgerMannhowever now everythings ganz wunderbar10:51
Seveaseyequeue, take a look at the character applet and the gucharmap program10:51
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eyequeue10:52
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Seveaseyequeue, lots of random numbers do not have associated characters :)10:53
eyequeueheh, yeah :)10:53
scythemy ieee1394 dvd drive is recognized when i boot with it plugged in, but it isnt recognized when i plug it in with the system already on10:53
Seveasand they are hex numbers, so you can use a b c d e f too :)10:53
refuze2loozeis there a program where i can seperate an ext3 partition i have into 2 partitions without losing data?10:53
DaylighthaterCan somebody help me with my screen problems?10:53
Seveasrefuze2looze, try booting from a livecd and using parted/gparted/qtparted10:53
SeveasDaylighthater, maybe someone can, if you tell us your problem...10:54
DaylighthaterIt's like my gnome got a push at the bottom and is now about 20 pixels to set to high10:54
DaylighthaterI was busy doing it :d10:54
refuze2loozeSeveas: is it risky to do so though?10:54
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SeveasDaylighthater, play with the buttons on your monitor, sounds like a hardware issue10:54
Daylighthaterits a laptop10:54
Seveasrefuze2looze, no idea, never tried it myself :)10:54
Firetechcan someone post a very UTF specific cahacter, just want to check if I managed to change encoding i KVIrc correctly...10:54
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DaylighthaterSeveas don't have those kind of buttons10:55
SeveasDaylighthater, ouch :| no idea then, it's interesting though, try posting to the ubuntu-users list10:55
eyequeue10:55
DaylighthaterHow do i do this?10:55
Firetecheyequeue: thanks :)10:55
SeveasDaylighthater, http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users10:55
eyequeueFiretech:  np (pasted from Seveas)10:55
Firetechcould guess that...10:56
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Firetechyou said something similar before I retsrted my client...10:56
Firetech*restarted10:56
galidorhi10:56
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Seveas <-- my real name in bopomofo (yeah, unicode is nice =))10:57
galidordoes someone know how to enable web administration for cups?10:57
Seveasgalidor, sudo adduser cupsys wheel10:57
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Seveasgalidor, sudo adduser cupsys root <-- try that if the previoul line does not work10:57
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galidorthanks, i'm trying10:58
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sebastian_I'm having trouble geting sound when I play .avi files in Totem, anyone know how to solve it?10:58
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ShuddertrixSilly me, i keep forgetting about devilspie..11:01
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galidorSeveas: it doesnt work11:02
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=== `julien should have looked at the topic before upgrading to breezy :p
scythedoes anyone know if there is an issue with the hotplugging subsystem in hoary11:02
Prophethow do you set up the root pass, or is there a defualt one or something?11:02
nickrudgalidor adduser cupsys shadow, invoke-rc.d cupsys restart, make changes, deluser cupsys shadow, invoke-rc.d cupsys restart11:02
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ShuddertrixProphet: You use sudo for everything with your password, however, you can set a pass with sudo passwd root11:03
kayUhm, I am using Breezy and X is broken for a while, is that only me?11:03
kay:)11:03
BurgerMannDoes anyone know what ERP applications are available for linux?11:03
xavhi every1 !11:03
SeveasBurgerMann, ERP..?11:04
xavi'm a debian user (mix testing/unstable) and i would like to switch to ubuntu11:04
eyequeuekay:  no11:04
nobileswitch11:04
xavbut the fact there's software upgrade in te stable repository pisses me off... so i think i would use backports11:04
xavwhat about them ? stability ? break down ?11:05
eyequeuekay:  have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yet?11:05
Choubakaxav: What?11:05
scytheim a recent convert....lovin it11:05
Seveasxav, stability of backports is questionable11:05
kayeyequeue, i have x back to running state, the thing is, the keyboard seems completely broken11:05
Choubakaxav: You don't want software updates? :|11:05
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Seveasbut there is work being done to improve on that (cooperation between ubuntu devs and backport guys)11:05
xavwell i'm just a desktop user ... all i want is my system not breaking down11:06
eyequeuekay:  i only notice it with ctrl characters (like ^L in xchat here)11:06
ChoubakaI haven't had breakage with backports.11:06
xav:)11:06
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Seveasxav, then don't use backports11:06
Choubakaxav: Then ubuntu will work.11:06
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kayAnd, at least on my work machine, it seems, I have no alt, no pipe, no tab and no ...11:06
Seveasxav, ubuntu has a 6-month release schedule11:06
Seveasno need for backports :)11:06
tanekmy soundcard keeps changing devicenumber... sometimes its dsp1 and sometimes dsp2, very annoying as i have to change my /etc/esound/esd.conf every time i reboot11:06
BurgerMannSeveas, It's a business concept. For larger firms. The intergrate and centralize financiel, stock, and productivity reports11:06
Choubakabetter than mixing sarge/unstable at least. :|11:06
xavi know but i find it awfull not to have new softwares for 6 months :)11:06
eyequeueSeveas:  has firefox 1.0.4 gone into hoary yet? (if not, you can't install extensions)11:07
SeveasBurgerMann, in that case: ENOCLUE (ie: no idea)11:07
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Seveaseyequeue: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.411:07
BurgerMannSeveas, If you've heard about them, Axapta and C5 are MS solutions11:07
eyequeueSeveas:  i have 1.0.4 already :)11:07
Seveasand you can install extensions again :)11:07
ChoubakaI'm running Trunk builds. :D11:07
ChoubakaThey rock11:07
ChoubakaAnd I mean it. They really do.11:08
eyequeueSeveas:  then again, my package is named firefox rather than mozilla-firefox :-/11:08
Seveaseyequeue, minor detail :)11:09
xavlast question before i switch... what about all my configs?11:09
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eyequeueSeveas:  (breezy)11:09
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hybridgod bless linux11:09
eyequeuexav:  any config in /home/* will not be changed by a package upgrade, only those in /etc/*11:09
scythewhile yes he did, but where did that come from hybrid?11:10
eyequeuehybrid:  thanks, i hadn't noticed it sneeze ;)11:10
xavof course for ~/ but i mean for all /etc/ ? is there a way to upgrade from debian to ubuntu ?11:10
BurgerMannhybrid, the way I see it.. Linux doesn't need to be blessed... :s11:10
eyequeueunless it uses C++? ;-)11:11
Seveasxav, i suggest you wait a month and simply dist-upgrade to breezy11:11
hybridscythe: i love linux. [that remark and such i common in here]  i am gettin videos thru wget and multitaskin like an sob man windows cant touch this11:11
hybridBurgerMann: heh but it is........11:11
Seveasthat's the easiest route11:11
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`julienyep11:11
hybrideyequeue: heh11:11
ShuddertrixWeird, i'm having sound problems now11:11
`julieni thought breezy was just as unstable as sid ;)11:11
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Seveas`julien, it's more unstable11:11
`julienso i installed breezy from hoary installer11:11
hybrid`julien: heh11:12
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Lafitte-breezy broke my system11:12
Lafitte-not very stabel11:12
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Lafitte-stable11:12
`julienSeveas: yes, i've seen :D11:12
hybridprograming in linux is wayt more fun then in osx or windoze11:12
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`julienbut it works11:12
saber_heh... its not like you didn't know :) look at the topic11:12
xavis there a way to install hoary and mix with breezy with apt pin something ? (like in debian sarge/sid)11:12
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ivoksdon't install breezy!11:12
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`julieni only miss vlc11:12
ivoksdon't install breezy!11:12
Seveasxav, sure :)11:12
hybridxav: yea but i dont suggest it11:12
ivoksLafitte-: /topic11:12
Seveasapt is apt11:12
Lafitte-ivoks,  i did    never booted from that point on11:12
eyequeueLafitte-:  no, thanksfully it's not stable (see /topic too) ... is there anything that i can help you get working again though?11:12
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ShuddertrixThat was very weird11:13
Seveasif you want you can even mix hoary/sarge/sid/breezy :)(11:13
lonewolff`julien: vlc for linux :)11:13
xavhybrid why?11:13
hybridSeveas: haha11:13
BurgerMannI miss being able to synchronize with my cellphone.. however that's not Linux's fault... that's my cell phone's :P11:13
hybridxav: b/c it could break with breezy the way it is11:13
ShuddertrixI touch the connection and the left channel suddenly comes in. Strange cable, I guess.11:13
hybridxav: and last time i said go ahead i got flamed11:13
hybrid:D11:13
`julienlonewolff: but it's currently broken because it lacks wxwindows11:13
ivoksLafitte-: it's your own fault :(11:13
lonewolff`julien: broken in what distro?11:14
eyequeuexav:  breezy (which i am on) is very definitely not in good shape at present11:14
amonkeyi added my storage drives to fstab, but they error out when trying to mount at boot, but are fine when i try mount -a. can i get mount -a to run automatically after boot?11:14
xavhybrid: would it more unstable than me using mix sarge/sid?11:14
`julienlonewolff: breezy11:14
`julienlonewolff: i know, i shouldn't have installed it :)11:14
Seveasamonkey, what type of drive?11:14
lonewolff`julien: ah well, pre realease, what do you expect11:14
Seveasnfs/samba?11:14
hybridxav: prolly b/c breezy and hoary are newer11:14
Shuddertrixmy music never sounded so good. ogg is just as good as mp3 :D11:14
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hybridxav: but if you know what u are doin it should make out a nice system11:15
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xavhybrid: okay so the matching should actually be sid->hoary experimental->breezy...11:15
Seveasxav, no11:15
Seveashoary is frozen, sid has moved on11:15
Seveasso sid->hoary will not work11:15
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hybridSeveas: it could11:16
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Seveashybrid, yes, but very unlikely :)11:16
hybridSeveas: kinda like mixin breezy n hoary11:16
hybridSeveas: idk never tried. maybe backports haha11:16
Lafitte-ivoks,  ??????   for what11:16
ivoksLafitte-: breezy11:16
Lafitte-ivoks,  i did that from ubuntuguide.org and i didnt care11:16
Lafitte-not bitchen now11:16
Lafitte-its called rsync dude  :)11:17
ivoks?11:17
Lafitte-took like make 10 minutes to reinstall with all my add ons there and fixes11:17
`julienthere's no mapping between debian distribs and ubuntus indeed11:17
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nickrudmaybe when etch rolls around...11:18
`julienmaybe11:18
tanekmy soundcard keeps changing devicenumber... sometimes its dsp1 and sometimes dsp2, very annoying as i have to change my /etc/esound/esd.conf every time i reboot11:18
`julien(hope)11:18
nickrudme also11:18
Lafitte-ivoks,  you know how to rsync ?11:18
ivokslol11:18
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xavi am just curious and a bit scary to leave my working-though-not-bleeding-edge debian for ubuntu... so this debate about backports and mixing hoary/breezy is something i would want to hear much about11:18
psycanyone here uses ubuntu amd64 with realtek 8180 ? im having a lot of problems trying to make it work11:19
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ivoksxav: don't mix!!!!!11:19
ivoksguys...11:19
ivokslet's get this straight...11:19
ivoksbreezy is beeing recompiled11:19
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desrtxav; the b in breezy stands for 'insane'11:19
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ivokswith gcc4 and g++411:19
Seveasindeed11:19
ivokslot of packages are broken!11:19
Seveasmixing breezy and whatever is impossible11:20
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ivoksbroken = don't run, have bugs, useless11:20
xavivoks: okay that 's clearer11:20
ech0hs anyone else had trouble installing mplayer? i keep getting "unmet dependencies"11:20
Lafitte-ivoks,  like X   rofl11:20
Seveasbecause the c++ abi changes in g++411:20
ech0has*11:20
desrtivoks; not useless.11:20
BurgerMannwhat's breezy?11:20
ivoksLafitte-: like X11:20
desrtivoks; i run a couple of breezy boxes11:20
`julienwell, i'll keep my nearly-working-breezy frozen for a while, tell me when it's usable again :)11:20
desrtivoks; just not for the faint of heart11:20
ivoks:)11:20
BurgerMannain't that a dring?11:20
BurgerManndrink11:20
ivoksbreezy ain't like debian testing11:20
nickrudBurgerMann breezy is what you'll want to take a look at come late august, I hope11:20
dimeocan i run kde applications in gnome ?11:21
Seveasyes dimeo11:21
lonewolffdimeo: yes you can11:21
Shuddertrixdimeo: Of course!11:21
dimeoAwesome!11:21
desrtdebian testing is like taking a walk into the bad part of town... breezy is like going to war in iraq11:21
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lonewolffdimeo: if you use apt to install them then it will install the kde libs and stuff you need for you11:21
BurgerMannnickrud, kewl :P... got any url?11:21
Simiramail-help?11:21
Lafitte-dimeo,  if you grab even simle programs  it will load you up with kde junk thouhg11:21
amonkeySeveas, two ext3 ide seagates on a pci ide controller.11:21
ivoksand read topic11:21
Simirahow come most of the mails I've sent lately don't seem to be in my "Sent items"-folder?11:21
Seveasamonkey, maybe your pci card driver is loaded too late11:22
eyequeueivoks:  though when debian does their C++ migration, it too will have nightmares in testing11:22
xavivoks: seems like it isn't sid neither :)11:22
Seveastry adding the driver to /etc/modules11:22
nickrudBurgerMann yeah, but I don't have it right at hand11:22
ShuddertrixLafitte-: Usually, qt and kdelibs isn't junk..11:22
ivoksthere isn't topic "DONT USE BREEZY" just for fun11:22
BurgerMannoh11:22
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amonkeySeveas, can i force it load sooner or mount those drives later?11:22
nickrudanyone have the breezy roadmap url available?11:22
Shuddertrixivoks: Don't forget the 4 pleases11:22
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Seveasamonkey, the /etc/modules trick might help11:22
ivoksxav: do you know what's tranistion from gcc3 to gcc4?11:22
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interohello11:22
ivoksxav: it's big/11:22
Seveasotherwise you will have to put it in your initrd11:22
desrtnickrud; roadmap: "release in early october"11:22
Simiranoone that can help a woman in need?11:22
ivoksxav: none distro is doing that11:22
dimeothat is one complaint that I have... I want to install a notes manager... 500k you'd figure... 72MB later when all the libs are installed too... blah11:22
SeveasSimira, evolution?11:23
SimiraSeveas: Thunderbird11:23
dimeoanyone know of a tree style notes manager that isn't 72mb?11:23
eyequeuedimeo:  are you on ubuntu or kubuntu?11:23
dimeoubuntu11:23
amonkeySeveas, how can i figure otu which module they need?11:23
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm can't seem to get an engine working with amarok in gnome11:23
ivokseyequeue: debian will use ubuntus patches11:23
nickruddesrt I said look at, not necessarily run :)11:23
eyequeuedimeo:  it sounds to me like you may have chosen a kde-based app to install then11:23
ivokseyequeue: so it will not be so paintfull11:23
xavivoks: yeah i do realize but when they warn u in debian not to use sid i'm not really scared :)11:23
Seveasah ok, well, i had it happen to me once in evo: there was something in the search box, so the sent-items folder was masked by that search. Maybe the same is going on for you in tb11:23
Seveasamonkey, no idea :)11:24
ivoksxav: they didn't do transition yet11:24
eyequeueivoks:  true :)  though they'll need to get all the libs updated on the same day, else the package conflicts nighhtmares11:24
interoi have seen ubuntu with gnome and i noticed that when logging out the user is asked wheter to reboot, shutodown or change user _without_ actually going to gdm (i.e. like in kde). is this a gnome 2.10 feature or an ubuntu feature?11:24
dimeoa notes manager should be less than a meg... I like how xandros had one build it with the install11:24
xavintero: gnome i have it in debian11:24
ivokseyequeue: that's not problem11:24
xavintero: though it didn't work in gentoo11:25
SimiraSeveas: gee, I found them! I've got both a "Sent-Items", "Sent" and "Sendte elementer"(.no) folder...11:25
nickrudBurgerMann http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals has some good info11:25
ivokseyequeue: if you know that lib will work11:25
Seveasintero, if you use gdm, you cannot reboot from kde. If you use kdm, you cannot reboot drom gnome11:25
eyequeuedimeo:  if your chosen app has a dependency upon kde libraries etc, it will seem the app itself is bloated with what it pulls in11:25
ivokseyequeue: breezy has libs in it that are under heavy development11:25
Seveaslol Simira, localizations are nice huh :p11:25
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interoxav: 2.10? because i have 2.8 now, and i dont have it. i have debian too11:25
xavivoks: so i won't mix... but could u tell me a bit about backports ?11:25
ivokseyequeue: some buil on one arch, but not on other etc...11:25
ivoksxav: don't use backports too11:25
xavintero: strange....11:25
xavivoks: why ?11:26
ivoksxav: cause breezys packages depend on packages that aren't in hoary11:26
interoSeveas: i have gnome+gdm but would like to be able to shoutdown without gdm intermission11:26
Seveasxav, backports qa standards are too low11:26
ivoksxav: and i'm not talking about versions11:26
xavintero: look in gconf maybe11:26
Seveasxav, they break things11:26
eyequeueivoks:  well, apps A B C D and E depend on libfoo1c102 and apps F G H I and J depend on libfoo1c2, and the libs conflict.  i think that's most of the headache in breezy at this time11:26
SimiraSeveas: nothing I hate more intense about linux...11:26
interoxav: okay. sure it's not some particular package?11:26
ivokseyequeue: but libfoo1c2 provides libfoo1c102 :)11:26
SeveasSimira, then why do you use them?11:26
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xavintero: quite sure yeah11:27
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eyequeuexav:  browse to http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ and read in as much or little detail as you like11:27
BurgerMannnickrud, thx for the url11:27
xavintero: i have gnome 2.8 and gdm since the begining and everything was working fine11:27
ivokstime to go to bed11:27
eyequeueivoks:  no, that's the thing, it CAN'T due to abi changes11:27
SimiraSeveas: they just happen sometimes :p I'm going back to Windows soon, I think11:27
xaveyequeue: thx11:27
Simira:p11:27
ivokseyequeue: i know :)11:27
eyequeuexav:  np11:27
Anubisbesides mplayer-plugin how do you stream windows/and quicktime media in your browser?11:27
jeff25is there a unbuntu porting guide channel?11:28
ivokseyequeue: well, mess will be, but not this big11:28
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SeveasSimira, LOL!11:28
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ivokseyequeue: hopfully, other distros will have easier task to do when we finish it11:28
eyequeueivoks:  you have no idea how tempted i was to make some metapackages using equivs ;)11:28
Seveasthat's not really the Ubuntu Member spirit :)11:28
interoxav: okay :) thanks11:28
xavlast one: is anyone using dvb-t here ?11:28
Seveasjeff25, what do you mean with ubuntu porting?11:28
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ivoksah, bye all11:29
jeff25Seveas: well I want to create a .deb for the lastest version of fluxbox11:29
eyequeueivoks:  Provides: $(everything-i-just-removed)  heheh11:29
MarioOsit already exists jeff11:29
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Seveasjeff25, try the MOTU: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates #ubuntu-motu11:29
SimiraSeveas: I'm almost not kidding. I still haven't found anything in Ubuntu I can't do equally effective in Windows. Maybe except for updating, but not much.11:29
jeff25Seveas: ok thanks11:30
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shezzol11:30
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xaveyequeue: about http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ they tell nothing about quality of the testing procedure....11:30
SeveasSimira, well kernel programing would be a bit more difficult ;)11:30
eyequeueSimira:  lockin and freedom aren't an issue there?  is not, choose whatever you find fits your current/future needs best11:30
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xavokay i'am going to do the switch debian -> ubuntu !!!11:31
xavlet's go thx all11:31
SimiraSeveas, eyequeue: these are things I don't do anyway :p11:31
eyequeuexav:  well, i suppose reading that forum for a while can give you an idea of how good/bad the various packages are.  i've had no complaints here11:31
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mez_ah11:32
mez_good old Xchat11:32
Fator_Deeand it's hard to clean spyware/viruses on linux 'cause you don't tend to get them too much :-|11:32
Simiraeyequeue: my ethics tells me to use Ubuntu (as I'm also the LoCo leader here :p ), my education and want for a job tells me to use Windows as much :p11:32
Fator_Deeso linux sux big time!11:32
eyequeueSimira:  sounds like you'll be a dual boot user :))11:32
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dampjamI found the most awesome package ever, now I need someone to play.  Anybody feel like installing typespeed and challenging me to a network game?11:33
eyequeueFator_Dee:  but you get to clean your monitor from all the drinks sprayed while laughing :)11:33
Simiraeyequeue: as I've got an Ubuntu server, WinXP desktop, and dualbooting laptop, one might call it that :p11:33
Fator_Deeeyequeue: yea11:33
eyequeueSimira:  sounds ideal for your situation, especially the part about having whichever you'd need with you, in varying situations11:34
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kayI think the xorg bug about keys is identified, bug #10942, when is there hope for new packages?11:36
Simiraeyequeue: I like to be what they call multi-talented ;)11:36
ech0does anyone have a list to the default sources.list? i messed up the one on my system11:36
ech0a link*11:36
kayOr in the alternative, when I do apt-get source something, patches are applied11:36
kaycan i prevent that and make it manually only?11:36
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kayech0, use apt-setup11:37
jacquesmerdewhich package do i need to play .avi's? gstreamer0.8-plugins let me play SOME avi's, but then only the audio...11:37
eyequeueech0:  you might be able to find it in amn 5 sources.list11:37
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eyequeueech0:  man 5 sources.list11:38
nickrudech0 http://pastebin.com/291396 has a good sources.list11:38
ech0thanks11:38
SilentKilleri am looking to install ubuntu on my sandisk. can anyone direct me to some sort of tutorials?11:38
abraxassomebody can help me with installation of gcc 4?11:38
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abraxascastellano?11:38
rem_.11:39
dalino hablo castellano11:39
dali:011:39
abraxassomebody can help me with installation of gcc 4?11:39
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BurgerMannhmn the first reason I considered to change to linux was that I saw KDE, I wonder if that's a common motivation11:39
Fator_DeeBurgerMann: nope, others like it simple11:40
Pop_pa_FrEaKdoes ubuntu use dropline gnome ?11:40
jacquesmerdewow, seeing kde nearly made me run back to windows11:40
SilentKilleri need to boot from my flashdrive. any suggestions on where to look for help?11:40
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jacquesmerdePop_pa_FrEaK, dropline gnome is for slackware only, isnt it?11:40
r0danyone running SElinux?11:40
darkauditok... TSO needs DirectX... and I need to recompile WINE with the DirectX patch...11:40
BurgerMannFator_Dee, also grown Windows users?11:40
Pop_pa_FrEaKahh ok I think it is too11:40
mkder0d, not sure, but #ubuntu-hardened might help11:40
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Fator_DeeBurgerMann: hnh?11:40
Pop_pa_FrEaKwish I could figure out why ubuntu won't install into my secondary pc11:41
SimiraBurgerMann: my sister changed because of the jumping cow screen saver11:41
ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: dropline is for slackware, and it's very nice for slackware.11:41
r0dmkde, you have to install it seperately.11:41
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toxicfumehi all, i need some help11:41
BurgerMannSimira, okay.. lol.. that may not be a common motivation at all.. but we all got our reaons11:41
eyequeueabraxas:  #ubuntu-es ?11:42
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r0dis their a c/c++ plugin for monodevelop?11:42
mike998gentlemen, I have acquired a copy of half life game of the year and was wondering how I install the client on my machine so I can play the single player version11:42
mike998any ideas?11:42
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mkder0d, i know, i was just thinking maybe the guys in #ubuntu-hardened will be running it11:42
toxicfumeI'm trying to follow this guide (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto) to fix my display problems on the laptop, but when i type the command "sudo aprt-get install fglrx-driver" I get an error that says "E: Couldn't find package fglrx-driver"11:43
Fator_Deemike998: you need an emulator/similar program, like cedega for an example11:43
BurgerMannErhm. I'm starting this organization called Danish Linux Integration and our mission is quite similiar to which of Ubuntus, that every user should have af free alternative in their language.11:43
toxicfumehow do i fix that? I already tride apt-get update11:43
r0dmkde, they are, just noone likes to talk in their :( thx11:43
toxicfumeHappyFool: hey, you there?11:43
jacquesmerdei want to play .avi's, someone please help (i promise its not for porn...)11:43
mike998Fator_Dee: I was afraid of that.  Thank you11:43
mkder0d, *grins* maybe its out of their timezone11:43
Fator_Deemike998: but cedega is proprietary (right word here?) so you have to pay for it11:43
Pop_pa_FrEaKyes its proprietary11:44
SimiraBurgerMann: I'm supposed to get a job within computer-business once in the future, and will have the advantage of know how to handle different systems. Many change for easier security and freedom to make/adjust/change their software11:44
mkdejacquesmerde, you can try the wiki at the RestrictedFormats page, there may also be a french translation, look at the FrenchDocumentation page11:44
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: thanks :-)11:44
Shuddertrixcedega is awesome ;)11:44
r0dmkde, yea, theirs tons of help on SElinux everywhere. just looking for a security chat11:44
toxicfumecan anyone help me please?11:44
mike998Fator_Dee: understood, I was hoping there was a native version or at least a native installer11:44
Pop_pa_FrEaKFator_Dee, np11:44
kayCan one see somehow the status of packages that are being built for breezy?11:44
Pop_pa_FrEaKjsut returning the favour11:44
jacquesmerdemkde, RestrictedFormats, cheers!11:44
Pop_pa_FrEaKjust*11:44
Fator_Deemike998: it's a good program though, you can play lot's of games with it, 5dollars a month subscription IIRC11:44
mkder0d, i think that trulux is the guy working on SELinux in Ubuntu11:44
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mkder0d, maybe you can talk to him11:45
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mike998Fator_Dee: Ahem... I have "borrowed" a copy and it dies when I try to install half life11:45
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mike998shame really11:45
toxicfumeanyone ?11:45
mkdeTomcat_, sup?11:46
mkdewhoops11:46
mike998but would you look at that... wine works okay I hope11:46
mkdetoxicfume, sup?11:46
mkdeoh11:46
r0dmkde,  rock on man11:46
Fator_Deemike998: there might be some tricks you have to do to get it installed, there should be some guides around11:46
mkdetoxicfume, which repository did you add?11:46
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mkder0d, ok11:46
Shuddertrixmike998: I can get hl from steam on Cedega perfectly. Fun.11:46
mike998Fator_Dee: Wine appears to be working, I will give that a go11:46
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toxicfumemkde: well i don't know, i'm trying to follow this guide: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto to get my monitor working11:46
BurgerMannSimira, it's a good idea11:47
Pop_pa_FrEaKAmericas army is better then CS11:47
mike998Shuddertrix: I just went to a garage sale and bought half life game of the year11:47
mkdetoxicfume, ok, where it says "read adding repositories", you actually have to do that bit11:47
toxicfumemkde: but then i was todl earlier to type apt-get update first, which i did11:47
Marine|Q3how do i install a proggy that has a .deb extension11:47
mkdetoxicfume, you added the multiverse repository?11:47
mike998Marine : dpkg -i package.deb11:47
Marine|Q3thank you11:47
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toxicfumemkde: there was a source.list file which i edited to uncomment the links11:47
toxicfumesources.list i think11:48
Shuddertrixmike998: That's how I got half-life also.. got it for 4$ with a serial that wasn't used in steam.. then bought HL2 ;)11:48
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islanderhello11:48
mkdetoxicfume, did you add multiverse or just uncomment the links?11:48
mike998Shuddertrix: my laptop would die a quick death if it tried to run hl211:48
toxicfumemkde: i just uncommented them11:48
islanderanybody here11:48
mike998but boy oh boy, would I love to play /that/ game11:48
toxicfumemkde: didn't add anylinks11:48
mkdetoxicfume, ok every time you see "universe", add "multiverse" afterwards -> "universe multiverse"11:49
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Pop_pa_FrEaKok need to get kde back again11:49
Pop_pa_FrEaKis it sudo apt-get install kde ?11:49
islanderthis is my  first time in here I am a newbie in linux11:49
toxicfumemkde: oh okay, where do i add that to?11:49
islanderdoes anybody help me11:49
mkdePop_pa_FrEaK, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop i think11:49
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: kubuntu-desktop11:49
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Pop_pa_FrEaKislander, welcome to the community11:49
mkdeTomcat_, everytime you see universe11:50
islanderthanks11:50
mkdedamn11:50
mkdetoxicfume, everytime you see universe11:50
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eyequeueislander:  what seems to be the troubles today?11:50
toxicfumemkde: okay, but i am not sure what you mean, you want me to edit the sources.list file again?11:50
mkdetoxicfume, if you haven't added any other repositories, you can copy the ideal sources.list from the page http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExampleConffiles11:50
islanderWell, I have so many questions about ubuntu11:50
mkdeislander, off you go :D11:50
islanderI will like to make it look like OS X11:50
Simiraislander: have you seen the webpages, forums, and wiki? ;)11:51
islanderdo you have any idea11:51
Pop_pa_FrEaKthanx mkde and Fator_Dee11:51
islanderno11:51
mkdeislander, what about OSX do you want to add?11:51
toxicfumemkde: okay, so just to make sure...11:51
mkdetoxicfume, don't post it in here11:51
islanderI will like to add the launch dock11:51
toxicfumemkde: you are asking me to add the word "multiverse" after "universe" in the sources.list file?11:52
JStrikeislander : That is not possible11:52
mkdetoxicfume, yes, if you look on that page i linked you to, you will see it11:52
spanglesontoastdoes anyone know much about sound?11:52
mkdeislander, you can try gdesklets11:52
toxicfumemkde: okay hoep that works, thanks :)11:52
islanderwhat's that11:52
JStrikeislander : You can try gdesklets, but that is very different11:52
Fator_Deewhat's a "launchdock"?11:52
toxicfumemkde: do i edit it to look exactly like that page?11:52
mkdeislander, i've never tried osx but i think it is related11:52
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JStrikemkde : Not really11:53
xiaogilWhen I activate a wifi network with the command "iwconfig eth1 mode ad-hoc essid courambel key off; ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1", the network is destected by other wifi computer, but they can't access to the server of my computer (while this server is accessible when using ethernet cable), what can I do ?11:53
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mkdetoxicfume, yes you can do, unless there are any external repositories that you want to keep11:53
mkdeJStrike, ok11:53
mkdenever used OSX11:53
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jacquesmerdei cant find a log file for synaptic...is there one? i want to delete a metapackage, and i can't work out how to do so automatically...11:53
islanderHow can I install gdesklet11:54
spanglesontoastwhos an alsa expert here?11:54
mkdejacquesmerde, you can use the program "debfoster" to remove reverse depdencies of a (meta)package11:54
eyequeuejacquesmerde:  no log in synaptic or apt-get, only with aptitude11:54
Fator_Deeislander: start up synaptic and search from it11:54
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holycowjacquesmerde, apt-get remove --purge metapackagename doesn't work?11:55
holycowsudo even11:55
mkdeholycow, that won't work11:55
islanderhow can I start up synaptic11:55
mkdedoesn't remove reverse dependencies11:55
eyequeueholycow:  that would only remove the metapacakge, not any of the things it pulls in as dependecies11:55
mkdeislander, from the menu, System -> Admin -> Synaptic Package Manager11:55
Fator_Deeislander: it's in the menus, upper left corner11:55
JStrikeislander : You cant make Linux look like mac os x untill there is a hardware accelerated X sever11:55
SilentKilleri need to boot ubuntu from a usb drive. any suggestions ?11:55
jacquesmerdeholycow, didnt try it. mkde, is your way better?11:56
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lonewolffSilentKiller: should be alright if your bios supports booting from usb, if nott you might wanna have grub on cd/floppy11:56
mkdejacquesmerde, i don't know, i'm not familiar with aptitude11:56
JStrikeislander : gdesklets can give you a crappy launcher thing that is not the same as os x's, and widgets that are similar to Dashboard11:56
eyequeueislander:  i've been looking for a url, but unfortunately i can't find it now.  i do know there are GDM and Gnome themes made to mimic OSX11:56
spanglesontoasthave we actually got an alsa expert here?11:56
mkdespanglesontoast, doesn't look like it. But you could try asking your question anyway11:57
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: maybe, but he/she could be sleeping right now :-p11:57
jacquesmerdeholycow, tried it. didnt work!11:57
eyequeuespanglesontoast:  someone may happen to know your specific situation though11:57
SilentKillerlonewolff: when you say "should be alright", what exactly do you mean? i am pretty much a newbie to ubuntu. so if i can get some article/guide/manual on doing that, it would be awesome11:57
spanglesontoastwell basically I need to switch my drivers around11:57
spanglesontoastso that my default is my motherboard11:58
spanglesontoastonboard11:58
islanderI went to the place, but I could not found the gdesklets11:58
spanglesontoastrather than the pci one11:58
JStrikeislander : You are being stubborn. But go ahead11:58
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Fator_Deeislander: go to the repository dialog (options IIRC?) and enable universe and multiverse11:59
lonewolffSilentKiller: well the ubuntu installer will see the usb key and providing there is enough space will install to it, if your bios supports booting from usb it should boot grub, i remember seeing a howto somewhere, gimme a minute11:59
mkdeprobably gdesklets is in universe11:59
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islanderno I could not found what you said, but I just want to make linux more suitable11:59
eyequeueislander:  gdesklets are in universe11:59
mkdeislander, universe is a secondary ubuntu archive, you need to enable it11:59
JStrikeislander : More suitable to what?11:59
spanglesontoasthow do I specify aliases?11:59
spanglesontoastwhere is the file for doing so11:59
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