[12:01] <lonewolff> if this fails i will write the iso with cdrecord from cammand line and see what happens
[12:02] <gdh> do enable '-v' if/when you do
[12:04] <lonewolff> gdh: noted
[12:10] <lonewolff> gdh: thanx for the info, but its looking like the packard bell dvd-r's are just crap, tried a different brand and it workeds
[12:12] <gdh> LOL packard bell? I could've told you that :)
[12:13] <lonewolff> they were going cheap, and now i know why

[12:13] <lonewolff> needless to say i will not be purchasing those again
[12:14] <gdh> a pc world/dixons/currys special?
[12:14] <lonewolff> indeed
[12:14] <lonewolff> 5gbpfor 10 discs in cases lol, couldnt resist
[12:15] <gdh> urrg - the only 50-CD spindle I bought from Currys started to dissolve after about a year
[12:15] <lonewolff> hehe
[12:15] <gdh> lonewolff: for media, http://www.svp.co.uk . sign up to their newsletter, they do 99p shipping weekends regularly
[12:15] <lonewolff> yeah, i usually buy online, nice silver discs lol, but i was passing and it looked like a good deal
[12:17] <lonewolff> gdh: the silvertopped dvd-r's and dvd-rw's are what i usually get from them, they are very very good
[12:18] <lonewolff> i have never had one fail on me
[12:18] <gdh> =)
[01:02] <error403> ARGH
[01:25] <lonewolff> night all
[01:25] <osh> g'nite
[01:26] <uniq> nite.
[01:26] <uniq> i'll call it a day too.. nite.
[02:46] <dsx> anyone able to help with a few newbie kubuntu questions?
[03:38] <reagleBRKLN> i'm trying to get around bug https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8923
[03:38] <reagleBRKLN> but `apt-build --reinstall install libtunepimp-bin` gives me an error about size mismatch?
[03:43] <reagleBRKLN> back
[03:54] <reagleBRKLN> if i make drives dma via http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#probnodma will it persist across a reboot?
[04:05] <muntyan> Hi guys. I have a problem with gamin (?) - in kdevelop new files/folders are not shown in File Selector. I've had such a problem in debian when somehow installed gamin; then I just switched back to fam. So, does someone know what to do?
[04:06] <CowBrain> hey can someone tell me what the command is to install a .deb pkg for skype
[04:06] <CowBrain> dpkg isnt it?
[04:06] <reagleBRKLN> dpkg -i skype_blah.deb
[04:06] <muntyan> reagleBRKLN: i wanted to uninstall it, but aptitude says million kde packages depend on it
[04:06] <CowBrain> thanks
[04:07] <muntyan> oh
[04:07] <reagleBRKLN> doesn't even know what it is though
[04:07] <muntyan> i can just install fam?
[04:07] <muntyan> gamin is something that does what fam does, somehow (this is all i know)
[04:09] <reagleBRKLN> yea, it has many deps, and switching out one core for another is tricky... if forced, i manually install the alternate .deb (fam) and dpkg --purge the other (gaiman), but that's risking a lot
[04:09] <muntyan> oh yeah
[04:10] <muntyan> now i at least have working kde :)
[04:12] <muntyan> but in worst case i'll have an excuse to go back to debian :)
[06:12] <DaveQB> anyone use umbrello ?
[06:30] <yahalom> anyone know how i can get a boot screen?
[06:30] <DaveQB> www.bootsplash.org
[06:32] <kakalto> you guys seen oneko?
[06:32] <kakalto> I like oneko
[06:36] <yahalom> DaveQB, thanx
[06:36] <DaveQB> np
[06:42] <transgress> anyone have problems with kopete not receiving aim messages?
[06:42] <DaveQB> nope
[06:42] <DaveQB> sorry
[06:43] <transgress> bleh
[06:43] <transgress> k
[06:47] <transgress> hey would anyone care to send me a message on aim to see if i receive it?
[06:47] <transgress> my sn is effofffcc
[06:49] <transgress> nm i got it
[07:31] <x2peistu> hey how could i install(get)games for Kubuntu?
[07:33] <x2peistu> plz i need some help........:(
[07:35] <dewey> apt-get install kde-games
[07:35] <dewey> gnome-games also
[07:36] <x2peistu> k
[07:36] <x2peistu> thanks
[07:37] <x2peistu>  didn t worked
[07:38] <x2peistu> the first one didn t worked
[07:39] <DaveQB> need more info then "it didnt work" 
[07:39] <dewey> any error messages?
[07:40] <dewey> x2peistu: do that as root from a terminal
[07:42] <x2peistu> Reading package lists... Done
[07:42] <x2peistu> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:42] <x2peistu> E: Couldn't find package kde-games
[07:42] <DaveQB> open up kynaptic and for a search for it, gives a list and will show the correct name 
[07:42] <DaveQB> "...and do a ..."
[07:42] <DaveQB> I meant
[07:43] <dewey> hey NothingButYou 
[07:43] <NothingButYou> later, I've got work
[07:45] <dewey> later maybe
[08:18] <_jesse> was there some recent bug fixes to cure that "Konqueror crashing all the time" bug?  All of the sudden it stopped crashing after my latest apt-get upgrade.
[08:18] <DaveQB> hmmm dunno, mine has always been fine, but only installed Kubuntu bout a mth ago
[08:27] <esher> hi
[08:27] <esher> my mozilla-firefox wont start
[08:27] <esher> any idea ?
[08:27] <DaveQB> run "strace mozilla-firefox"  
[08:27] <DaveQB> might help with the debugging
[08:28] <DaveQB> and/or move ~/.mozilla/firefox  folder some else (or just rename) and try again
[08:28] <esher> thx
[08:29] <DaveQB> np
[08:45] <x2PEiSTU> is anyone from romania here???
[10:03] <kisain> anyone know anything about wine errors?
[10:47] <Dsx> anyone able to help with a guidedog/port fowarding problem?
[11:04] <NothingButYou> hmm that splashy thing should be in the default Kubuntu installation
[11:20] <x2PEiSTU> i have no ideea how to install q3arena .....could anyone help me?
[11:32] <bdmp> I want to add some firefox extensions, but apparently there was a mistake in updating the version number in the ubuntu packages, so you have to do a work around.  I was directed to the bug page and to comment #3 which is "Setting general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4 in about:config seems to let me
[11:32] <bdmp> access addons.mozilla.org
[11:32] <bdmp> " but I don't know what it means.  Can someone give me a hand?
[11:46] <Riddell> bdmp: you'd be better asking in #ubuntu since Kubuntu uses Konqueror but I would guess it means type about:config into the address bar and scroll down until you find that setting
[11:46] <Riddell> and people call Konqueror's user interface complex
[11:46] <Riddell> (it is)
[11:47] <othernoob> how do i uninstall gnome and only gnome (and the related progs that were installed when i installed gnome via apt-get) ?
[12:13] <me> hello, can anyone help me with installing latest kubuntu packages of koffice beta?
[12:14] <me> I cannot add the url to repositories :(
[12:17] <me> the url is: ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/kde/unstable/koffice-1.4-beta1/kubuntu
[12:17] <me> how do I install koffice from there?
[12:17] <uniq> hang on.
[12:17] <uniq> a sec
[12:17] <me> sure, thanks
[12:17] <uniq> deb ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/kde/unstable/koffice-1.4-beta1/kubuntu ./
[12:18] <uniq> try that.
[12:18] <me> bash: deb: command not found
[12:18] <uniq> ahh..
[12:18] <me> :(
[12:19] <uniq> sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:19] <uniq> and add that line to the bottom.
[12:19] <me> with deb in front of it?
[12:19] <uniq> yes.
[12:20] <me> ok, now update?
[12:20] <uniq> yes.
[12:20] <othernoob> uniq: would you know how to uninstall gnome and the progs it installed during installation ?
[12:21] <uniq> othernoob: yes. just a second and i'll find an url for you
[12:22] <me> uniq: so I forced that version with synaptic and now fetching packages, thank you very much!
[12:22] <othernoob> thanks
[12:29] <uniq> othernoob: you could remove 'libgnome2-0' that would remove most of the gnome-stuff i think.
[12:29] <uniq> can't find the walkthrough i was thinking of right now.
[12:30] <othernoob> uniq would it only remove the stuff that was installed ?
[12:31] <uniq> that was installed? 
[12:31] <uniq> it will remove most gnome-stuff.
[12:32] <uniq> 'sudo apt-get -s remove libgnome2-0' and you'll simulate what it does.
[12:32] <uniq> that'll show you what packages are to be removed.
[12:32] <uniq> and you can always install them later.. if you're missing someting.
[12:34] <bdmp> RIddell: thanks.  Don't all you use firefox though?  I have kde so when they explain things in #ubuntu it can get difficult because the steps are different.
[12:34] <othernoob> uniq: thanks, 
[12:34] <uniq> no problem.
[12:35] <uniq> you could also have a look at debfoster.
[12:36] <uniq> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24403
[12:43] <bdmp> Riddell: Thanks again.  It worked.
[12:45] <me> I isntalled the latest koffice beta and now have this error and apps koffivce won't start: 
[12:45] <me> kword
[12:45] <me> koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in kword's d                           esktop file. Check your installation !
[12:46] <_yoyo_> hello everybody :D
[12:46] <me> does someone have a clue on this?
[12:46] <_yoyo_> nop sorry i am a newbie
[12:47] <_yoyo_> is there someone ???
[12:47] <uniq> i'm here.
[12:47] <_yoyo_> hi
[12:47] <pointwood> oops, my menu bar left me :( how do I get it back?
[12:48] <_yoyo_> i cant acceed to my hard disk :'( please help me
[12:48] <uniq> pointwood: ctrl+m
[12:48] <uniq> _yoyo_: explain more in detail.
[12:49] <pointwood> uniq: that doesn't seem to do anything
[12:50] <uniq> pointwood: which program did you loose your menubar? 
[12:50] <_yoyo_> when I clik on my hard disk it says me impossible to mount it
[12:50] <pointwood> I mean the KDE menu/taskbar thing
[12:50] <uniq> pointwood: ahh.. that's not hte menubar :)
[12:50] <pointwood> sorry :)
[12:50] <pointwood> what is that called then?
[12:51] <uniq> depends on what you've lost.
[12:51] <uniq> the whole panel?
[12:51] <pointwood> yes
[12:51] <uniq> does alt+f2 work?  
[12:52] <pointwood> yes
[12:52] <uniq> type 'kicker' into the run command box.. and press enter.
[12:52] <_yoyo_> i am gotta eat good bye ;)
[12:52] <pointwood> ahhh
[12:52] <pointwood> thx
[12:52] <uniq> no problem.
[12:53] <pointwood> I have never quite figured out what the different things were called
[12:53] <pointwood> now I know at least one :)
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> how do I make it launch firefox instead of konqueror when i hit hyperlinks?
[01:23] <spektr> Hi! Why isn't there a source directory at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-updates/main/ ? Where do I get the sources for kubuntu-specific updates (e.g. kaffeine)?
[01:28] <spektr> Wait, the sources are on the server; But "deb-src http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates main" does not work, because there is no source directory. What is the correct deb-src line for sources.list?
[01:29] <lonewolff> afternoon all
[01:35] <spektr> hmm... "deb-src http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main/binary-i386/" seems to work. Hope this is the right thing...
[01:51] <DaveQB> anyone using Umbrello in here ?
[01:52] <uniq> not me.
[01:53] <uniq> spektr: it's easier to just get the source by hand.. from http://kubuntu.org/pool/ - it's not setup to swupport deb-src. 
[01:55] <spektr> uniq: thanks, i already found it. But deb-src seems to work with the url I wrote above. (the last slash seems to be essential, without it aptitude update complains)
[01:56] <uniq> i'm suprised if you get the source with that url.
[01:57] <uniq> no.. actually.. the srouce.gz is there.
[01:57] <uniq> nevermind me.
[02:15] <uniq> riddell: did you get my message about knetworkconf ubuntu6? 
[02:16] <Riddell> uniq: oh yes, busy going hoary kde 3.4.1 just now but I'll try and take a look at it today
[02:16] <Riddell> keep poking me
[02:16] <uniq> great :)
[02:16] <uniq> it just a cleanup of ubuntu5.. which was a mess.
[02:16] <uniq> and amarok won't compile with the fixes i got from svn. :/ 
[02:18] <uniq> some weirdness with libraries or something.
[02:32] <ToutPT|ppc|fr> hoy
[04:28] <Tm_T> good evening
[04:43] <x2PEiSTU> need help.... how can i get Corel Draw for Kde???
[04:43] <x2PEiSTU> what is the name?
[04:43] <Bizzeh> why, when i told kubuntu install to install ONLY to my blank partition, and NOT to touch my MBR, to install the boot record to the partition... did it erase my partition table, mbr and install on all the disk
[04:44] <x2PEiSTU> need help.... how can i get Corel Draw for Kde???pls............
[04:44] <NothingButYou> x2PEiSTU: you can't.. or at least I don't know anything different from Photoshop to run
[04:45] <NothingButYou> Bizzeh: for me it does not erase it...
[04:45] <x2PEiSTU> or some kind of Corel Draw..........
[04:45] <NothingButYou> Gimp + Inkscape maybe?
[04:45] <Bizzeh> it also doesnt pick up my wifi card
[04:46] <NothingButYou> Bizzeh - doesn't KWIFIManager helps? I don't know ... :)
[04:46] <Bizzeh> on install
[04:47] <NothingButYou> after install does it work?
[04:47] <Bizzeh> well, i cant install without network
[04:47] <Bizzeh> cos bits are missing
[04:47] <Bizzeh> and
[04:47] <Bizzeh> it didnt write a new mbr for me
[04:47] <Bizzeh> just killed old one
[04:47] <Bizzeh> couldnt boot shit
[04:47] <error403> :O
[04:48] <NothingButYou> mm.. I've noticed a problem with the MBR too with an old machine
[04:48] <Bizzeh> this is a relitivly new machine
[04:49] <Bizzeh> only reason i not gone back to gentoo is cos i cant be bothered with all the compilation
[04:50] <NothingButYou> is it an RAID ? :)or just a normal system?
[04:50] <NothingButYou> with IDE HDD?
[04:50] <Bizzeh> normal
[04:50] <Bizzeh> PATA
[04:50] <NothingButYou> and what's the type of the / partition?
[04:50] <Bizzeh> efs2
[04:51] <DaveQB> whats the best way to sunmit a "bug" with a Kubuntu pckage ?
[04:51] <NothingButYou> strange... 
[04:51] <Bizzeh> or e2fs, depending on what you wanna call it
[04:51] <NothingButYou> have no idea..
[04:51] <DaveQB> its a KDE package, but it seems its only the Kubuntu package thats in error 
[04:51] <Bizzeh> i wanna dual boot kubuntu and win32
[04:51] <Bizzeh> with wi32 as first os
[04:52] <NothingButYou> well the you should rewrite the MBR
[04:52] <NothingButYou> with grub
[04:52] <NothingButYou> if you aren't using another boot MGR
[04:53] <Bizzeh> well, what i would like to do is have a partition at the end of the drive, and have grub on a floppy disk
[04:53] <NothingButYou> mmm... 
[04:53] <Bizzeh> so, no floppy, windows, floppy, linux
[04:54] <NothingButYou> I haven't done that but... well if you log in to Kubuntu somehow you may write the boot sector to the floppy
[04:55] <NothingButYou> but that's a strange way to dual boot :) or let's say hard
[04:55] <NothingButYou> :)
[05:13] <_ubuntu> Any ideas how I could get sound working on a mac mini?
[05:16] <apollo2011> I am trying to edit the Samba configuration in KControl and whenever I use Administrator Mode and enter my user password, it just goes back to the blue start page.  I was able to edit the configuration before.
[05:16] <NothingButYou> it happens for me too
[05:17] <NothingButYou> I've killed kdesud and it works maybe.. if not, try logging in as root
[05:18] <apollo2011> I can't log in  as root
[05:19] <NothingButYou> you should edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc   AllowRootLogin=true
[05:19] <NothingButYou> to be able.. and create a root pass "sudo passwd"
[05:19] <NothingButYou> :)
[05:19] <apollo2011> are you even using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[05:19] <apollo2011> oh
[05:19] <NothingButYou> Kubuntu
[05:19] <apollo2011> ok
[05:20] <amiroff> I cannot change the icon for folder mime type. Can anyone help me? I can change other mime-type icons though
[05:20] <apollo2011> I just thought since you were suggesting to login as root and there is no root in ubuntu but with the mod u suggested, it will work...
[05:20] <apollo2011> ill be back...
[05:20] <NothingButYou> I can't amiroff 
[05:21] <amiroff> NothingButYou: sorry?
[05:21] <NothingButYou> I can't help :)
[05:21] <amiroff> oh :)
[05:21] <NothingButYou> although I can try..
[05:21] <NothingButYou> brb
[05:21] <amiroff> I suppose it's some  wired permission or something
[05:21] <amiroff> ok :)
[05:22] <NothingButYou> and how is that done hmm...
[05:23] <amiroff> you normally right click to folder
[05:23] <amiroff> then click on the mime type icon
[05:23] <amiroff> and select another one
[05:23] <marco> c' qualche italiano?
[05:23] <NothingButYou> am..
[05:23] <amiroff> that works per folder, but not generally for a mime-type here
[05:24] <NothingButYou> amiroff: I just did that from the Control Center
[05:24] <amiroff> NothingButYou: click on the Edit file type button after right clicking -> properties
[05:24] <amiroff> that works too
[05:24] <NothingButYou> amiroff: It works for the global Folder Icon
[05:25] <NothingButYou> do you want this as a result?
[05:25] <NothingButYou> or just for a specific folder?
[05:25] <NothingButYou> apollo2011: succeed?
[05:25] <amiroff> global folder icon
[05:25] <apollo2011> NothingButYou: I added a root password but didn't mod that file yet but now I can't open any program that requires a password.  It never comes up with the box to enter and just sits there.  so no more kynaptic etc
[05:25] <amiroff> I don't need per icon
[05:25] <NothingButYou> apollo2011: "killall kdesud"
[05:26] <NothingButYou> amiroff: for me it works if you go to the Control Center > File Associations
[05:26] <apollo2011> ok. I did that...then what>
[05:26] <NothingButYou> inode>folder
[05:26] <NothingButYou> well I've just changed the icon and it works
[05:27] <NothingButYou> apollo2011: well try using kynaptic or.. smth root
[05:27] <NothingButYou> isn't it workin?
[05:27] <apollo2011> ???
[05:27] <apollo2011> everything is fucked up now
[05:27] <amiroff> NothingButYou: trying ...
[05:28] <apollo2011> kynaptic doesn't do anything
[05:30] <spity> hi
[05:30] <amiroff> NothingButYou: thank you, it worked after doing from control center
[05:30] <NothingButYou> ok :) have fun
[05:30] <amiroff> does not work from file properties -> mime type
[05:31] <spity> what means that g++ is broken in breezy, does that mean that 3.4 is broken also?
[05:34] <agnes> hey all. I have a problem with kynaptic: Everytime I go to "commit", the commit window doesn't have the "OK" and "Close" buttons until I resize it
[05:36] <NothingButYou> use Synaptic if that bothers you :) 
[05:36] <NothingButYou> for me it's the same :}
[05:38] <Tm_T> why not use apt without gui? ;)
[05:39] <NothingButYou> haha :) 
[05:39] <Tm_T> I rarely open kynaptic/synaptic
[05:39] <NothingButYou> I'm a GUIstic person :)
[05:39] <Tm_T> mostly when I look how them works
[05:40] <NothingButYou> apollo2011: success?
[05:41] <apollo2011> looks like it
[05:41] <apollo2011> now after a relogin the box comes up like it is supposed to...
[05:41] <apollo2011> don't know what the heck happened.
[05:41] <NothingButYou> it's a bug.. happens for me too
[05:41] <apollo2011> and I also found that the workgroup was set wrong so now I can view my other Windows pcs
[05:41] <apollo2011> just need to see now if they can see me :-P
[05:42] <NothingButYou> :}
[05:42] <Tm_T> hope not
[05:43] <apollo2011> doesn't look like they can see me but Windows is stupid so probably if I reboot later it will see it
[05:43] <NothingButYou> shit happens :}
[05:43] <Tm_T> "your Kubuntu is infected by MS!!1" ;)
[05:43] <NothingButYou> windows too :p
[05:43] <NothingButYou> format c: ? :)
[05:43] <Tm_T> \o/
[05:49] <NothingButYou> Tm_T, today I've made a bootsplash for Splashy, specially for Kubuntu. Where can I publish it ?
[05:49] <Tm_T> kde-look.org
[05:50] <Tm_T> hmm, why you ask it from me?
[05:50] <NothingButYou> you may know :)
[05:50] <Tm_T> =)
[05:50] <NothingButYou> I've already done that :)
[05:50] <Tm_T> heh
[05:50] <NothingButYou> 60 % good.. :P
[05:50] <Tm_T> and you can advertise it in forum maybe ;)
[05:51] <NothingButYou> mm I'll think about that :P I'm not a forum-man :}
[05:53] <aciDHead> hi
[05:53] <NothingButYou> hi
[05:54] <spity> is here anyone doing kde packages for ubuntu?
[05:56] <Tm_T> some
[05:56] <Tm_T> I think \sh has something to do with it ;p
[05:56] <Tm_T> but go ahead and ask
[05:56] <spity> i have a question regarding the useability of g++ in ubuntu
[05:56] <Bizzeh> hey, whats the general kde config thing for kde/
[05:57] <NothingButYou> Control Center?
[05:57] <spity> i tried to compile KDE CVS with g++-3.4 and g++4.0.1 and both produce some funky code it seems
[05:57] <spity> Bizzeh: kcontrol
[05:57] <Bizzeh> ty
[05:58] <Tm_T> =)
[05:58] <aciDHead> has someone here a webcam running under kubuntu ?
[05:58] <Tm_T> spity: heh, topic?
[05:59] <spity> yeah, well, i thought g++-3.4 is safe
[05:59] <Tm_T> I dunno about it
[05:59] <NothingButYou> maybe the problem is with KDE ?
[06:00] <Tm_T> spity: CVS? you used svn?
[06:00] <aciDHead> hm..
[06:00] <aciDHead> i think not ?
[06:00] <Bizzeh> can i change screen res via kcontrol?
[06:00] <NothingButYou> aciDHead: I have not
[06:01] <NothingButYou> Bizzeh: to some extent
[06:01] <Tm_T> spity: use svn to get latest sources and try again
[06:01] <NothingButYou> Bizzeh: Peripherals > Monitor...
[06:02] <spity> Tm_T: oh well, of course i meant, SVN, i've been with KDE for far too long, that CVS got under my skin :)
[06:02] <Tm_T> heh
[06:03] <andrewski> a/s/l check
[06:03] <spity> Tm_T: i hope you consider trunk from today's mornin fresh enough :-P
[06:03] <andrewski> 16/f/new orleans
[06:03] <Tm_T> spity: yup
[06:03] <Tm_T> spity: looks like I have problems when building koffice =)
[06:03] <Bizzeh> how do i enabled restricted apt's?
[06:03] <Bizzeh> like kdevelop?
[06:04] <Tm_T> aerh, ok, this aint working
[06:04] <spity> Tm_T: could you be more specific?
[06:04] <NothingButYou> Bizzeh: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines with universe multiverse if that's what you mean
[06:04] <Tm_T> spity: find: ./lib/kofficeui/.libs/libkofficeui.la: No such file or directory
[06:04] <Bizzeh> ty
[06:05] <spity> Tm_T: hmm, well i suppose it really doesn't exist so try 'cd ./lib/kofficeui && make libkofficeui.la'
[06:06] <Tm_T> hmm
[06:06] <Tm_T> heh, no help
[06:06] <Tm_T> make: *** No rule to make target `libkofficeui.la'.  Stop.
[06:06] <Tm_T> =)
[06:07] <Tm_T> ok, let's try this again from beginning
[06:08] <Tm_T> hmm
[06:20] <Tm_T> maybe it compile now...
[06:20] <Tm_T> _maybe_
[06:21] <Tm_T> tons of warnings =)
[06:21] <Tm_T> well, its svn so that's what I expect
[06:22] <aciDHead> ioctl: VIDIOC_G_STD(std=0xb727e550b7cde19c [PAL_G,PAL_H,PAL_I,PAL_K,PAL_M,NTSC_M_JP,?,?,SECAM_B,SECAM_G,SECAM_H,SECAM_L,?ATSC_8_VSB,ATSC_16_VSB,(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null),(null)] ): Das Argument ist ungltig
[06:22] <aciDHead> ioctl: VIDIOC_S_CTRL(id=9963777;value=0): Das Argument ist ungltig
[06:22] <aciDHead> ioctl: VIDIOC_S_STD(std=0x0 [] ): Das Argument ist ungltig
[06:22] <aciDHead> sorry..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:23] <aciDHead> is there an v4l channel somewhere ???
[06:23] <Tm_T> ?
[06:23] <Tm_T> dunno
[06:28] <NothingButYou> aciDHead: try google maybe :)
[06:31] <aciDHead> i spend a whole day to get my f...king webcam to work and nothing happens..
[06:31] <aciDHead> still no picture.. 
[06:31] <aciDHead> argl..
[06:32] <NothingButYou> cunno..
[06:32] <NothingButYou> *dunno
[06:32] <mikl> aciDHead: patience, young grasshopper ;)
[06:33] <aciDHead> mikl: patience ???? ahhhhhhhhhhh
[06:33] <Tm_T> haha
[06:33] <Tm_T> aciDHead: what kind of webcam?
[06:33] <aciDHead> its a noname cam, but there is a module for it
[06:33] <aciDHead> everything gets loaded correctly at startup
[06:34] <aciDHead> you can see things changing on cat /dev/video0
[06:34] <aciDHead> and when i start an webcam proggi or xawtv nothing happens then errors
[06:35] <lonewolff> does anyone know the status of tv out using ati mobility m7 cards? i cant see anything about tvout on the supported hardware pages
[06:36] <mikl> how do you install a specific package-version (ie. not the newest one)?
[06:39] <NothingButYou> mikl: the only think I can think of is donwload the needed .deb and "dpkg -i selected.deb"
[06:39] <mikl> hmm, sometimes I wonder why I opted to go for breezy right away :(
[06:40] <NothingButYou> bad .. bad.. :}
[06:42] <Tm_T> nasty
[06:42] <Tm_T> looks like my digi/webcam doesn't support linux :/
[06:43] <aciDHead> :)
[06:43] <Tm_T> yeah, too expensive
[06:43] <Tm_T> like, 40e
[06:43] <aciDHead> lol
[06:44] <Tm_T> maybe I should buy common webcam
[06:44] <mikl> siiiiigh, kaffeine is teh crap
[06:45] <Tm_T> it is, use Kplayer or others
[06:45] <aciDHead> me too
[06:46] <mikl> segfaults galore
[06:46] <mikl> do _not_ use breezy yet ;)
[06:48] <Tm_T> haha
[06:48] <Tm_T> use it! ] ;=
[06:51] <NothingButYou> I've used it until it broke KDE :P
[06:52] <Tm_T> haha
[07:30] <Tm_T> oh, it compiled finally =)
[07:33] <NothingButYou> Cheers!
[07:33] <NothingButYou> :}
[07:35] <Livingstone__> is there already a debianized fix for kopete?
[07:39] <Tm_T> yes?
[07:39] <Tm_T> Livingstone__: topic ;)
[07:40] <Livingstone__> ops
[07:40] <Livingstone__> thx
[07:43] <Tm_T> np
[07:43] <Tm_T> it helped?
[07:51] <Tm_T> "ok"
[07:59] <weedar> I read there is no default root password, but how do I su or login as root then?
[07:59] <Tm_T> sudo su
[07:59] <Tm_T> and use your password
[08:00] <Tm_T> or sudo dash
[08:00] <Tm_T> or sudo bash
[08:00] <Tm_T> or hwatever you like
[08:00] <weedar> ah, thanks. I had actually been trying to login with another password out of old habit :)
[08:00] <Tm_T> =)
[08:00] <Tm_T> but you can enable root account
[08:01] <weedar> oh?
[08:01] <Tm_T> yes
[08:01] <Tm_T> and after that, edit your sudoers list
[08:01] <Joopie> hey why is Kynaptic sometimes crash when i run it ?
[08:01] <Tm_T> because all are allowed to do sudo by default
[08:01] <Joopie> its just loading in the taskbar, but then it disapear
[08:01] <Tm_T> Joopie: hmm, because nothing's perfect? ;)
[08:02] <weedar> but how do I enable a root account? I've never had to do that before
[08:02] <Joopie> i need to run kynaptic 2x to run it
[08:02] <Tm_T> weedar: sudo passwd root
[08:02] <Joopie> Tm_T: so im not the only one with this kynaptic bug ?
[08:02] <weedar> ah, many thanks
[08:03] <Tm_T> Joopie: I don't think so, but I don't use kynaptic so I don't know for sure
[08:03] <Joopie> what do you use? synaptic ?
[08:09] <weedar> Is there any reason to use kynaptic instead of synaptic?
[08:09] <Joopie> i dunno
[08:09] <Joopie> they both do the same job
[08:09] <Joopie> kynaptic use the KDE look, synaptic has GNOME look
[08:10] <Tm_T> and apt is the tool
[08:10] <Tm_T> so why not use it directly
[08:10] <NothingButYou> Synaptic has more options
[08:10] <Joopie> but kynaptic is in develop state, and has some bugs
[08:11] <Tm_T> and it's only gui
[08:11] <Tm_T> :/
[08:11] <weedar> the information at http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php#add-universe is wrong
[08:11] <NothingButYou> but it's beautiful :P
[08:12] <Tm_T> no it's not
[08:12] <weedar> Well, it says "From the menu select System->Repositories. The Software Sources dialog is displayed." but there is no menu-option called System, only Settings
[08:13] <weedar> In the next step it says to click "Edit", but there is no Edit button
[08:13] <NothingButYou> yes it's Settings :)
[08:14] <weedar> So I figured what to do, but it's quite an obvious error
[08:14] <Joopie> if u are talking about kynaptic, then u must add the universe Repositories manually
[08:15] <weedar> No I'm following the example and using synaptic
[08:15] <Joopie> alright
[08:15] <Tm_T> hmh
[08:15] <Tm_T> why you use synaptic?
[08:15] <Tm_T> it's easier to use nano
[08:15] <weedar> I just wanted to follow the instructions
[08:15] <Tm_T> :/
[08:15] <NothingButYou> hahaha :)
[08:15] <NothingButYou> Tm_T everybody has preferences...
[08:15] <Tm_T> huoh
[08:16] <Tm_T> sigh
[08:16] <NothingButYou> lamers are us :))
[08:16] <NothingButYou> or smth like that 
[08:16] <Tm_T> hey really, it's way easier just to use nano
[08:17] <Joopie> yeah: sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list
[08:17] <NothingButYou> mm... Synaptic - Four clicks
[08:18] <NothingButYou> nano 2 clicks, and about 6-7 keystrokes :)
[08:18] <Joopie> hmm cut/paste my line, then remove 2x the #
[08:18] <Joopie> hah
[08:18] <Joopie> pwned :P
[08:18] <Tm_T> NothingButYou: nano need some clicks?
[08:18] <NothingButYou> to open a console and to close it :P
[08:19] <Tm_T> I have it always open
[08:19] <Tm_T> x10
[08:19] <NothingButYou> you have it :))))))
[08:19] <Tm_T> or something
[08:20] <N17R0> hmm someone stole my nickname
[08:20] <Tm_T> it was... ME! ] ;=
[08:20] <NI7R0> it was u ?
[08:20] <NothingButYou> get 'im, get 'im!
[08:20] <NI7R0> please drop it :P
[08:22] <Tm_T> no it wasn't me
[08:22] <Tm_T> ubt if you registered your nick, you have no trouble
[08:22] <Tm_T> so it's up to you
[08:22] <NI7R0> well when i use N17R0 it says this is a registered nick
[08:23] <NI7R0> i forgot to register it
[08:23] <Tm_T> then it's your mistake
[08:23] <NI7R0> now someone funny reged it before i could reg it
[08:23] <thoreauputic> NI7R0: change your nick: someone beat you to it, too bad
[08:23] <weedar> I just installed Kubuntu and try to run Kaffeine for the first time. Get some errors about win32 codecs and libdvdcss. Should I dl these manually or are they available as packages?
[08:24] <NI7R0> hmm ill haxor it back then :P
[08:24] <thoreauputic> weedar: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:24] <weedar> thanks
[08:25] <Tm_T> hi othernoob 
[08:26] <othernoob> hi Tm_T
[08:28] <othernoob> Tm_T i've installed gnome last night because of a prog that requires it, but heh, the prog isn't worth having gnome installed, so how do i uninstall all the progs that were installed last night ?
[08:29] <Tm_T> hmm, uninstall that specific package, then use deborphan to detect unneeded packages
[08:32] <gdh> othernoob: once you're happy with the list that deborphan brings, you can use this to remove them in one swoop:  deborphan | xargs apt-get -y remove
[08:32] <Tm_T> noooo
[08:33] <Tm_T> too easy ;p
[08:33] <gdh> :))
[08:33] <gdh> indeed, just add --purge for complete peace of mind =)
[08:33] <NI7R0> hmm where is the help/admin channel ?
[08:34] <Tm_T> eh
[08:34] <Tm_T> of what
[08:34] <NI7R0> for this server
[08:34] <gdh> er, #freenode ?
[08:35] <NI7R0> ahh thx
[08:35] <Tm_T> http://freenode.net/freenode_and_irc.shtml
[08:48] <pixelmonkey> does anyone here use Skype and know if you can make Skype use your KDE style/theme?
[08:48] <Tm_T> hmm
[08:48] <Tm_T> I have skype
[08:48] <aciDHead> doesnt it ?
[08:49] <aciDHead> me too
[08:49] <NothingButYou> it does it by default
[08:49] <Tm_T> but I don't use it =)
[08:49] <pixelmonkey> hmm...
[08:49] <Tm_T> oh yes it does
[08:49] <pixelmonkey> hmm, strange
[08:49] <NothingButYou> if you mean the icons.. they can't be changed :)
[08:49] <pixelmonkey> for me it uses some very bland windows-esh theme
[08:50] <pixelmonkey> whereas everything else in KDE is plastik
[08:50] <NothingButYou> hm
[08:50] <NothingButYou> :}
[08:50] <pixelmonkey> can you open up qtconfig and tell me what you see listed as the "GUI style"?
[08:52] <Curalton> i have plastik there, but on a debian system
[08:52] <othernoob> Tm_T so i just do a sudo apt-get remove libgnome2-0 ?
[08:52] <pixelmonkey> Curalton, yea, see, for me none of my kde themes show up
[08:53] <Tm_T> othernoob: ...for example yes
[08:53] <othernoob> and then deborphan ?
[08:53] <othernoob> will it cause any probs with the progs that were installed by kubuntu ?
[08:54] <Curalton> pixelmonkey: check the library paths
[08:54] <pixelmonkey> Curalton, strangely enough, I tried adding /usr/lib/kde3/plugins to the library path, but qtconfig "forgets" when I restart it
[08:54] <Curalton> did you save it? 
[08:54] <Curalton> from the file menu
[08:56] <pixelmonkey> Curalton, I see this in console stdout when I save the path: QSettings::sync: filename is null/empty
[08:57] <pixelmonkey> and it still forgets of course :)
[08:57] <pixelmonkey> strange stuff
[08:57] <Curalton> oh, no idea :S
[08:57] <pixelmonkey> unfortunately I don't know much about QT
[08:57] <Curalton> a ~/.qt/ directory exists?
[08:57] <Curalton> thats where it should safe the path
[08:58] <pixelmonkey> Curalton, yea, it exists... it's empty, however
[08:58] <Curalton> at least qtrc should be there
[08:58] <Curalton> hmm, write permissions exits?
[08:58] <othernoob> Tm_T how'd i use deborphan ? 
[08:58] <Tm_T> othernoob: just say "deborphan"
[08:59] <Tm_T> and it gives a list to you
[08:59] <Tm_T> then use apt-get remove --purge or whatever
[09:00] <othernoob> says command not found..
[09:01] <Tm_T> ehm, install it then
[09:03] <othernoob> Tm_T thanks :)
[09:03] <Tm_T> np :)
[09:03] <pixelmonkey> Curalton, hey thanks
[09:04] <pixelmonkey> Curalton, for some reason, my .qt directory was owned by root
[09:04] <Tm_T> 0wnz
[09:04] <Tm_T> ...
[09:04] <Curalton> pixelmonkey: :)
[09:06] <swierzyuser> czesc
[09:07] <swierzyuser> czy ktos mi moze powiedziec dlaczego nie ma ikon na pulpicie - smietnika, home i systemu ? tak jak to powinno standardowo byc w kde?
[09:07] <Tm_T> kan you speak english please?
[09:07] <Tm_T> can even =)
[09:08] <swierzyuser> why in my desktop no icond home, trash, system ? :)
[09:09] <Tm_T> they're disabled as default
[09:09] <Tm_T> there is a way to enable then
[09:09] <Tm_T> them
[09:10] <swierzyuser> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37385   -  this my question
[09:10] <Tm_T> well well well
[09:11] <Tm_T> you have to edit few files
[09:12] <swierzyuser> what files?
[09:12] <swierzyuser> pls help
[09:12] <Tm_T> ~/Desktop/ ;)
[09:12] <Tm_T> check from there
[09:12] <Tm_T> you'll find the way to enable trash
[09:12] <Tm_T> and it's easy to add home icon
[09:17] <Tm_T> swierzyuser: you got it?
[09:17] <Tm_T> haha
[09:17] <NothingButYou> he created a desktop file to drop the connection
[09:17] <NothingButYou> :}
[09:23] <Tm_T> NothingButYou: I think so too =)
[09:26] <yahalom> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release
[09:26] <yahalom> Err http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/restricted Packages
[09:26] <yahalom>   403 Forbidden
[09:26] <yahalom> Can someone explain this to me plz?
[09:27] <NothingButYou> change the repos...
[09:27] <NothingButYou> Good night
[09:27] <yahalom> to what?
[09:27] <yahalom> nice
[09:30] <yahalom> ok got it
[09:56] <sbcl3> quick question: to add repositories to kynaptic, the only way to do that is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, right?
[09:57] <aciDHead> yes
[09:58] <sbcl3> oh; another question; can I switch from gnome [ubuntu]  to kde [kubuntu]  without a whole other install?
[09:58] <aciDHead> is there a source for the 2.6.11 modules as .deb package ??
[09:58] <sbcl3> do i just add the kde packages on synaptic?
[10:00] <gdh> aciDHead: the modules are contained in the linux-image-2.6.11-1-[N] 86 package...
[10:01] <gdh> sbcl3: install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[10:01] <gdh> that's a giant metapackage which will bring in everything Kubuntu includes by default
[10:02] <sbcl3> gdh: when i reboot will i go into kde? if so, how can i go back to gnome?
[10:02] <gdh> sbcl3: No idea, never done it. I expect you can select which session type you want from the login manager
[10:11] <gdh> sbcl3: That is to say, you can have KDE + GNOME on the same system simultaneously :)
[10:11] <aciDHead> gdh:  thanks..
[10:12] <aciDHead> gdh:  is it true that the 2.6.11 can't start X
[10:14] <gdh> aciDHead: No idea :)
[10:16] <gdh> aciDHead: I can't imagine why that would the the case
[10:21] <aciDHead> gdh: in channel ubuntu-de they say so..
[10:23] <sbcl3> kernel 2.6.11?
[10:25] <gdh> Any more info? anybody filed an official bugreport with detail yet? :)
[10:26] <aciDHead> gdh: no sorry..
[10:26] <gdh> 'it doesn't work' doesn't help anyone least of all the people experiencing the fault :)
[10:26] <aciDHead> brb
[10:57] <anna> Evening
[10:58] <psn> hi anna 
[11:03] <Tm_T> hullo
[11:04] <Tm_T> hmh, looks like I can't play mov files
[11:26] <apollo2011> I added the universe repository and I am wondering if I add the openoffice.org 2.0 Beta packages. Will that affec the currently installed 1.1.3
[11:28] <gdh> No, you can have both
[11:35] <apollo2011> ok thx
[11:37] <Tm_T> damn, some mov files is playing nicely, some have terrible noise
[11:37] <mrmanic> so true
[11:38] <Tm_T> :/
[11:39] <gdh> Tm_T: Just buy a Mac and be done ;)
[11:39] <Tm_T> nope, wine or other and quicktime player ;p
[11:40] <Curalton> you can use xine or mplayer with some modified .dlls in /usr/lib/win32/
[11:40] <Curalton> thats how i play .movs
[12:01] <rexykik> can anyone around help me?
[12:01] <rexykik> just need to know how to format a brand new hard drive, a slave, so that i can use it to transfer files to