=== GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.89.145] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blvszcz [~bluszcz@jabberpl.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] heh [12:53] I just made fluxbox-0.9.13.deb for hoary [12:53] with no bugs! [12:54] it's fast as hell too === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] nighty night! [01:31] <\sh> re === schweeb [~chris@216.139.8.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] ajmitch: really? [02:14] ? [02:14] ajmitch: hmmm, It sounds like today is the best day to fsck me or something alike! :D [02:14] ajmitch: pappy-, tseng, you, any one wants more fun? [02:14] no, I dont [02:14] ajmitch: last thing before I go for the rest of time: [02:14] I want to be able to say what I want in a +s channel and have it stay there [02:15] why drag -motu into it now? [02:15] once a time, a smart man said that those who were limited in certain conditions, and suffered the feeling of such limitations, even if they were enemies, would get tovgether against a growing entity that made their limitations even more clear and notable [02:16] and they killed the man who had the empire in his hands. again, humans do the same mistake again [02:16] now I must have real work done [02:16] have a nice day you all [02:16] good bye [02:17] ajmitch: yes, just taking my marbles === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:17] looks like I've been messing around with the wrong people ;) [02:17] I need French people, really [02:17] they keep close to the poit and not suck as others do when real things are going on [02:18] lah [02:21] <\sh> g'night [02:27] \sh: I'll keep working a few kenrel stuff here and coding poc for my LSM 2005 speech, found a friendly and very skillful French guy to work with for it === trulux chuckles [02:28] ajmitch: let's keep personal stuff out of the way. how's it going anyways? [02:28] we need the UI stuff done anyways [02:30] \sh: looks like I will end giving a fuck to all the distro related stuff, and keep my upstream work... [02:30] heh === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has left #ubuntu-motu ["cat] [02:45] hmm, he didn't even give me a chance to reply :) === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb__ [~chris@216.139.8.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb [~chris@216.139.8.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rem_ [~rem@adsl-41-124-bs4.tiscali.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === whiprush [~jorge@arslinux.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb__ [~chris@216.139.8.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |zzzzz [~opera@ppp2B95.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb [~chris@216.139.8.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] hi all [06:57] what might be a good/the best way to go about packaging an app the is already complied [06:58] i packaged the nvidia-cg-toolkit which comes already in bin form [06:59] i created a deb from the rpm for now, but I am curious about what the recommended method would be to package the deb the right way from the tarball [07:08] also in reg lib packages, should the pkg-config files go in the lib or in lib-dev? === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-240.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p54A0ABE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.171.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aisipos [~anton@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimmy [~dtchen@c24.180.151.44.roc.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@129.143.213.216] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb__ [~chris@216.139.8.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] http://www.kofler.cc/ubuntu.html === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] !!!!! [09:43] heh [09:44] kofler is the best german linux author ever.... its just impressing [09:44] :) [10:07] great! :) [10:07] morning, btw ;) === schweeb [~chris@216.139.8.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [~shermann@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Danten [~danten@h187n6c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [~magru@as1-1-7.t.lk.bonet.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:30] how to prevent pbuilder to cleanup the buildplace after failiure? [11:31] <\sh> --preserve-buildplace [11:32] thnx [11:35] huh? cp: cannot create regular file `/var/cache/pbuilder/build//etc/hosts': No such file or directory [11:36] somethings very weird going on here [11:36] It will clean up the build place on failure, or after a successful build. [11:37] so not that what I wanted.. [11:44] <\sh> hmmm. [11:46] experimenting with hooks now [11:49] hooks worked, I forgot libxinerama-dev :( [12:01] <\sh> siretart: how? === DanielN [~kodiak@80-218-243-68.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] \sh: installed a hook with "sleep 600" [12:08] <\sh> ah :) understand :) [12:09] <\sh> updating my new packages to breezy [12:11] morning guys :) [12:17] hi DanielN [12:19] <\sh> hey DanielN === susus [~sz@p5089F677.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax9-129.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] hi [12:49] <\sh> moins tseng [12:50] <\sh> argl...daniel removed my voice on -devel [12:50] he did warn you. [12:50] <\sh> tseng: i told him it was the last thing i said :) and now its over..period. [12:51] eh. [12:51] <\sh> and I'm not blaiming him ... it was my fault.. === schweeb__ [~chris@216.139.8.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@host-213-216.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] hi ogra! [01:03] hey tseng [01:03] we have __thread :) [01:03] yeah !!! [01:05] <\sh> moins ogra [01:05] hi \sh [01:05] " Fix db2 dllmap" hmm i dont remember what this is [01:05] heh, moins ? i'm up since 7 [01:06] tseng, at least its fixed ;) [01:06] its not afaik [01:06] [01:06] <\sh> ogra: i was up at 10;) [01:07] lazy guy [01:07] :) [01:07] <\sh> ogra: brain reset yesterday :) and new nifty toys :) [01:07] we dont seem to depend on libdb2 [01:08] <\sh> lemme build this kvim replacement named yzis [01:08] /lib/libdb.so.3 ugh wth is this === ogra wonders if he should go to http://2005.guadec.org/schedule/gnometalks.html#gtksharp === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] that sounds fun [01:09] it would wizz past me though, i am not an OOP guy at all [01:10] i'm not really intrested... but the other things are even less tempting.... [01:11] <\sh> ogra: please go and inform me later about the results...i think this is a much nicer attempt then gtkmm ;) [01:16] <\sh> ok..njam is now ready to publish :) [01:17] \sh, i'm not really intrested in mono programming, only in packaging, i'll stay with python ;) [01:18] but its probably helpful to know some gtk# for fixing bugs in the packages, so i'll go [01:20] BenM and I are going to fix *every* gtk# bug [01:20] :P [01:20] <\sh> siretart: ping [01:21] tseng, even the ones in the software ? [01:21] heh. [01:22] we will start by submitting dllmap bugs upstream [01:22] those are the most annoying to packagers [01:22] ok, i ,need to find some lunch to survive the day.... i'll be here later again.... [01:22] cya [01:22] bye [01:25] holy crap i can search on malone [01:25] :D [01:28] miguel keynote in 30 minutes [01:28] woo [01:28] hm i should try the fluendo stream === koke [~koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] that's what i'm on [01:29] like i could actually afford to go, pfft [01:29] what room? [01:29] oh [01:29] duh. [01:29] the one that says it's for keynotes ;) [01:29] wth [01:29] how do i open the stream in totem? [01:29] it says how [01:29] i dont want a bunch of java/activex crap [01:30] ah oh that page [01:30] you have to jump through hoops [01:30] http://stream.fluendo.com:8900/ [01:30] totem plugin ++ [01:30] had that, trashed my prolile [01:30] what's the symlink again? [01:30] the what? [01:31] to symlink the totem plugin into ~/.mozilla/plugins so it works [01:32] i did no such thing. [01:34] kewl [01:34] works in totem-xine :-) === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] yo! [01:38] hi. [01:38] hi herve :-) [01:43] Nafallo: works in xine, mplayer, vlc, gstreamer, probably even helix [01:43] of course, helix player and real player are worthless now that fluendo got the rights to ship a real plugin [01:45] Amaranth: oki. what room is that btw? [01:45] Nafallo: the one that says it's for keynotes ;) [01:46] Amaranth: hehe, k === Nafallo starts planning his stream-day ;-) [01:49] <\sh> hey herve [01:55] it's time [01:59] doko: it seems you found with python2.3 lost readline features? [02:01] i saw ogra and seb on the feed :) [02:04] Amaranth: is he talking? [02:04] i have no sound yet [02:04] no [02:04] he blew into the mic once or twice [02:04] i'm not there, i'm watching the stream [02:04] well so am I [02:04] yeah [02:04] you can tell it's on because he blew lightly into the mic once or twice [02:04] probably taking deep breaths :D [02:05] what are you talking about? [02:05] http://stream.fluendo.com:8900/ [02:06] miguel's guadec keynote [02:06] starting any minute now [02:06] bwar === schweeb [~chris@216.139.8.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] "matthew's ubuntu review" [02:27] that document is interesting [02:29] "interesting" is loose there [02:30] f-spot! === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] ;-) [02:37] "of course i only listed the mono ones, because i want to indoctrineate you" [02:37] man [02:39] well, I'm installing f-spot at that time ;-) [02:45] <3 tv-out [02:51] use ubuntu ;-) [02:51] yes! [02:51] :-D [02:52] well, "buy nokia", but they also support software patents... [02:52] if you are a company like nokia in the US [02:52] you have to [02:52] to protect yourself from ibm and microsoft patents [02:52] and sun [02:53] I mean in the EU [02:53] they are lobbying [02:57] lol. I shouldn't show you this: but I do it live for the whole internet ;-). [02:57] we're only 1000, no big deal ;-) [02:57] it will be for download later, at least I hope so [02:58] so I can blog the best lines [02:58] hehe [02:58] "dont buy novell, just use ubuntu" [02:58] what novell os is based on? [02:58] suse [02:58] well, novell linux desktop [02:59] novell netware is its own === herve fool [02:59] of course they bought suse;.. [02:59] was that mark? [02:59] seb or orga just asked that question? [03:00] oh, or mark [03:00] no seb and ogra are in the back [03:00] he was looking in the other direction from them [03:01] any other canonical guys there? [03:01] damn is he right about that :-). tetris rocks ;-). [03:02] wow, I got several seconds of lag! [03:02] i was dropping audio for awhile [03:02] i dropped the whole thing [03:02] im off for a bit [03:02] turn off all downloads/uploads and it works for me ;-) [03:03] yes, I dropped mono install [03:05] yay! lot's of ubuntupushing ;-) [03:06] we must admit ubuntu has a rocking mono team! [03:06] indeed :-) [03:06] hmm, gst or selinux :-P [03:07] all those geeks carrying their laptop :-) [03:07] i chose gst, but it seems to suck [03:07] :P [03:08] you can't see the slides [03:08] ah, they fixed it [03:08] hmm, the cam @ selinux sucks ;-) [03:08] the sound even... [03:09] the gst one was too bright [03:09] "people are still coming in" [03:09] hehe, he started right on time, the keynote ran over [03:12] is the selinux one very exciting? [03:12] not yet ;-) [03:12] Kamion is doing it, right? [03:13] ehm, no? Colin Walters [03:13] oh, wrong last name ;) [03:13] Colin Walters != Colin Watson [03:13] i just glanced at the page on my way to the gstreamer link === Nafallo has the page open ;-) [03:13] <\sh> hmmm.. === Amaranth goes back to fixing smeg [03:14] <\sh> anyone has experience with debarchiver? [03:17] I certainly hope sessions will be available for downloa [03:17] two hours until the next session i want to see [03:18] tomorrow looks exciting [03:18] yay! Mark :-) === Nafallo shall set his alarmclock [03:19] yeah, and project topaz [03:19] where did you find the stream url? [03:19] shit, mark's keynote is 4:30am here [03:19] http://stream.fluendo.com/guadec/ [03:20] yeah but how did you find it? :)- [03:21] herve: click on "See the stream (autodetection)" :-) [03:21] I mean, from the guadec website [03:21] I couldn't find any link to the streams [03:21] oh [03:21] thomas gave it to me [03:22] thomasvs [03:22] hmm... a big issue of their site then === ogra [~ogra@host-213-216.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] yo ogra! [03:26] hi ogra ! [03:26] hey guys [03:26] ogra: you and seb were in the camera for awhile :) [03:26] before the talk started [03:27] yep, dholbach told us :) [03:27] :D [03:27] the mono talk was quite intresting [03:27] miguel is the best [03:27] he mentioned the mono/ubuntu live cd quite often ;) [03:28] oh a different talk? [03:28] (with always mentioning that its ubuntu based) [03:28] nope, the same [03:28] hm i turned it off too soon I guess [03:28] in the end he only talked about mono... [03:28] i liked when someone asked about fedora [03:28] hehe [03:28] and he said, just use ubuntu [03:28] :) we rock. [03:28] YOU rock ;) [03:28] http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg-0.7.png <--does it seem obvious to you guys what everything here means? [03:29] tseng: any updates on getting mono into main? [03:29] i dunno no one updated the seeds that I saw [03:29] Amaranth, its already in [03:29] but i am falling behind on breezy-changes [03:29] just waiting that dbus gets rebuilt [03:29] there is too much mail [03:29] ok, the dbus thing is what i was getting at [03:30] just jump over the auto updater mails teng [03:31] [03:31] Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe mono 1.1.7-0ubuntu5 [1182B] === Nafallo listens to gst instead [03:31] yeah... [03:33] \sh: pong [03:34] <\sh> siretart: hey [03:35] <\sh> siretart: check njam :) its on ubuntu.linux-server.org I moved html/ now to usr/share/doc/njam [03:35] <\sh> I want to setup an package archive with debarchiver...and I want the packages sorted just like ubuntu is doing is...so breezy/main breezy/universe etc, [03:35] <\sh> but I don [03:36] <\sh> 't find any howto for it...debarchiver is running :) but not as i want [03:36] Amaranth, about your picture, it looks fine, but I'll place the "new" buttons where appropriate [03:36] ie, "new menu" below the menu panel [03:37] well, maybe i should show another screenshot :) [03:37] tseng, what about using gmane news or rss features for breezy-changes? [03:38] \sh, I can help you setting up a "dist+pool" archive [03:38] but I'm not sure what you need [03:39] herve: http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg-0.7-2.png [03:39] that's why i didn't put the buttons like that [03:39] ha ok [03:39] I see your point [03:39] <\sh> herve: something like ubuntu has...the sorting should be also dist/main dist/universe etc. [03:40] but I insist on mine, menus still are on the left :)- [03:40] they're on the right too [03:40] \sh, http://deb.oursours.net/ubuntu [03:40] Amaranth, it's a special case [03:40] <\sh> herve: thats it [03:40] \sh, well, I only have universe here, but could be [03:41] <\sh> herve: debarchiver or some other software? [03:41] by hand :-) [03:41] ho no [03:41] apt-ftparchive [03:41] or some name like thayt [03:42] you'll find all the scripts in the ubuntu directoryu [03:42] <\sh> i wonder how the sorting is done from upload to apt-gettable archives...what is the key to decide which package belongs to main which to universe etc. === herve should remove his gloves to type... [03:42] haaa, sorry [03:43] there are some .override files in the ubuntu archive, afair [03:45] my wlandriver causes lag :-/ [03:46] herve: http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg-0.7-3.png [03:46] like that? [03:47] Amaranth, yes [03:47] ok, now that vs http://www.realistanew.com/images/smeg/smeg-0.6.png [03:47] which looks better? [03:47] <\sh> herve: lemme check apt-ftparchive [03:48] <\sh> debarchiver can work with it [03:48] Amaranth, you removed the special of menus at the place of entries, which I liked [03:48] like [03:48] ? [03:49] 0.6 is the last version, trying to make sure i'm actually making something better here :) [03:49] and you're developping 0.7? [03:50] yeah [03:50] ok, I understand why the separator button appear :)- [03:50] which is better: 0.7 or 0.6? [03:50] looks, not features [03:51] i'm hoping to be able to consider this release feature complete, so i need to get it right [03:51] hmm... [03:52] personally i hated the visible column in the menus [03:52] but it's slightly more work to show/hide a menu now [03:52] yes, 0.7 has a better look [03:52] actually, it doesn't matter, i have to go with 0.7 :P [03:52] \sh: i had a look at your package. I assume you are aware about the lintian warnings, yes? [03:52] otherwise separators and moving things around won't be possible at all [03:52] i'm going to be the first to nail calum's sketch of what a menu editor should look like [03:53] \sh: besides the lintian warnings and errors, I think the package is fine [03:53] Amaranth, hooray for 0.7! === herzi [~herzi@host-214-222.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth goes back to making copy/paste work [03:56] <\sh> siretart: yeah...it will be fixed just now === ogra_ [~ogra@host-213-216.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [~ogra@host-213-216.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb__ [~chris@216.139.8.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === motaboy [~motaboy@host32-39.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@host-213-216.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] \sh: did you make any progress at arkrpg? [04:37] <\sh> siretart: no :( [04:37] \sh: I looked at it, but I think its really weird. Types from included source are "unknown" at several places. Placing forward declaration is a workaround at some places, but not everywhere [04:37] <\sh> in the end i will rewrite this bloody rules fule [04:37] <\sh> siretart: the problem is more, that configure is totally broken [04:37] <\sh> the tests for xlibs and xincludes are failing [04:37] \sh: I think there goes something really wrong with the preprocessor [04:38] <\sh> and this I can only overcome with autoreconf [04:38] <\sh> but i don't know where to inject this..tried configure target doesn [04:38] hm. really strange. but it is also heavily patched by the DD [04:38] <\sh> 't work... [04:38] <\sh> i tried update-config hook [04:38] <\sh> no luck either [04:39] really really weird package.. === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-084-059-049-125.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] herzi: i tried gmane rss for ubuntu-security and it seemed a little wonky [04:42] tseng: where's mpt? [04:42] trulux: miguel was talking about his work at guadec [04:42] trulux: i very rarely see mpt on irc. [04:42] tseng, whats the rl for the livestream ? [04:43] url even [04:43] one sec [04:43] its on planet gnome [04:43] tseng: mpt != Miguel, I mean the usability master [04:43] thats waht I said [04:43] miguel was talking about the mpt usability study I mean [04:43] tseng, i missed the gtk# talk in favor of a long chat with andrew towbridge ;) [04:43] ogra: not john trowbridge? [04:44] err, yes [04:44] nice :) [04:44] tseng: BTW, I feel cool enough to talk now (/query, even phone) about what happened yesterday, but I don't expect a lot to get solved regarding the other folks [04:44] i'm bad at names ;) [04:44] trulux: i was just miffed that you went around my friends to work on hardened-gentoo, and I flamed you [04:45] trulux: i wish it could have stayed in a private place, but its over now [04:48] hm who has mono 1.1.7-0ubuntu5 and muine? [04:50] ogra: anything interesting come up? [04:50] ogra: i like trow [04:50] yep, he's nice [04:50] they'll get amd64 boxen eventually [04:52] and he told me that they use ubuntu internally quite often *g* [04:53] yep [04:53] thats why they all bug me so much about the packaging :P [04:53] they have been building stuff from svn :( [04:53] yep [04:53] there will be a party at novell when breezy is released for sure :) [04:53] but i guess he wouldnt say that officially :) [04:54] the mono live CD isnt officially by novell... its just a subproject :/ [04:57] it wasnt done by anyone at novell [04:58] tseng: your friends? I just said true and strong facts over your fascist lead. I don't accept the abuse of authority, if a lead can't give candor to his co-workers, then he's not the lead, he's a fascist asshole. Keep that in mind. [04:58] trulux: noted, thanks. [04:59] trulux, may i remind you of the code of conduct please ? [04:59] tseng: now, I would like to go back to our work, that thing once a time we wanted to do together [04:59] happy coding [04:59] ogra: sorry if it sounds stupid, but, that one I sent signed by hand in a FAX to Mako? [05:00] ogra: *sigh* [05:00] trulux, faschist asshole isnt appropriate wording for an ubuntu channel, no matter in which context if you titel someone wih it [05:01] so please keep it friendly in here or we have to do something against it.... which i wouldnt like... [05:01] ogra: sorry, I'm neither politically correct or respectful to those who aren't with me === schweeb [~chris@216.139.8.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] ogra: please, just a thing, I will keep closer to the CC, but don't do that. just do it if you are going to feel proud [05:02] trulux, i dont know whats going on between tseng and you currently (didnt follow ubuntu-hardened) but please keep it outside of this channel [05:02] ogra: he's not even in -hardened. I even wonder what he wants really [05:03] ogra: it's slightly related to Ubuntu, as tseng said names of other people [05:03] trulux, no idea, but watch your wording please, thats all... === ogra has to go to a talk now... [05:04] ogra: sure, if you mean that I can say fascist with other words, then great. no willing to disturb around === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === astharot [~isager@host18-161.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] ajmitch: ping [05:08] just seen gnomevfs-mount, seems nice [05:09] herve: something other than drivemount_applet? [05:10] you can mount http://somewebsite/ as an example === ogra [~ogra@host-213-216.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@host-214-222.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] trulux, please keep this wording completely out of here... i'm german, i react pretty sensitive to this word !! i wouldnt like to ban you or anyone from here [05:19] ogra: I'm Spanish, my country has sufferred fascism for more than 30 years of continuous abuse, a Civil war which dividided our society in two parts, and now, in nowdays, shiny-sucking-great-world, fascism is getting all over the place again in form of politicakly-correct jerks, business men and globalizing morons. [05:20] anyone else have problems with the guadec streams? they buffer and loose sound all the time. [05:20] I react pretty sensitive to this SHIT, 'cos members of my family gave their life and beliefs to make this a better country [05:20] Nafallo: yep its a bit choppy in spots [05:20] ogra: in other words, I don't know you, but I'm sure I have an huge amount of facts to throw over that statement [05:21] ogra: and more important, nevern. never try to let me think/believe that I can't fascist in a channel which Free Software development takes place [05:22] ogra: If you put atenttion, I get hard once you get hard against me, I get closer to be upset once you try to say you can ban and close my mouth, and I get much more decent and worthy tosay what I'm saying when you and others try to abuse of such facts [05:22] just that [05:23] I'm here willing help, don't make me willing to blow you up [05:23] please just stop it [05:23] ogra: your choice now, I've taken alrady the decision [05:26] please, everyone. stop it. start /ignoring. This channel is about improving a linux distribution for humans [05:26] this discussion is not helping anyone === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o ogra] by ChanServ === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] wb mgalvin [05:27] hi [05:27] <\sh> siretart: i'm having a closer look to debian dak :) (katie) :) [05:27] siretart: thanks for the advice, we're humans (and biased by meaning), yup. [05:27] ;) [05:27] <\sh> siretart: it should help you to get your project running [05:27] ogra: Already feeling the power? [05:27] please just stop it [05:28] ogra: sure [05:28] fine [05:28] \sh: ah great. the problem is, right now I havn't time to discuss this. [05:29] \sh: lets discuss this later the week, I'll try to write something done in the wiki or at least as email to have something to discuss [05:29] ogra: do you anything about pitti? is he enjoying the weekend? [05:30] sure [05:30] ogra: where can I find the url to the current breezy 2.6.12 sources (tarball)? [05:30] he doesnt work on sundays [05:30] <\sh> siretart: yeah...its quite a huge package full of python magic ;) [05:30] no idea, cant you take the source pkg ? [05:32] <\sh> *grmpf* [05:32] <\sh> could anyone ask on -devel if anyone is there to help with katie? [05:33] \sh, try to ping elmo [05:33] \sh: I'm not really sure if a full blown dak is really needed. I think that a mini-dinstall could suffice [05:33] \sh: I think mentors.debian.net is running mini-dinstall with hooks, too [05:35] ogra: ok, will do. it's just that I'm on Hoary riught now [05:35] you can just grab the sources off packages.ubuntu.com [05:35] trulux: look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/linux-source-2.6.12 there you can download the source package [05:36] <\sh> siretart: lets check it out .) [05:36] siretart: many thanks, rock :) === schweeb [~chris@216.139.8.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] gotta leave. cu tomorrow! [05:45] siretart: see you :-) [05:46] what might be the best way to package pre-built binaries, i made a deb of the nvidia-cg-toolkit from the rpm but would like to create a proper deb, does anyone know of maybe a good example package [05:51] pre-built binaries? seems like non free software too me :-) [05:51] yea, it not, its nvidias cg compiler an runtime, no source from them :-/ [05:53] so I guess it means "copying" the binary in the usr/bin directory of the tree? [05:53] correct [05:56] I also have the cegui package built, and up on the wiki as needs review [05:58] I wish I had so much time [05:59] i was up late last night ;) [06:01]