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eyequeueislander:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto/view?searchterm=adding%20repositories12:00
lonewolffSilentKiller: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5151.html has some useful information12:00
mkdespanglesontoast, "locate alias|grep alsa"?12:00
SilentKillerlonewolff: that is awesome. i will check it out. thanks.12:01
islanderthank you for the link12:01
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islanderI am going to try to see how much can accomplish12:01
KpjasHi anyone using ubuntu on a laptop ? What are HW requirements to run Ub smoothly ?12:02
spanglesontoastah but where would I put index=0 etc?12:02
P229has anyone tried the .deb distributed by Juno in Ubuntu? does it work?12:02
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lonewolffKpjas: i run it on 2 laptops12:02
lonewolffnot sure of the minimum spec but it runs alright on a p41.6m with 512mb ram12:03
lonewolff((thats the slowest ubuntu machine i have))12:03
mkdei bet12:03
Pop_pa_FrEaKwonder if debian would install on my secondary pc ?12:03
Fator_DeeKpjas: works with patience in 128mb 800mhz12:03
nate__i run ubuntu on a p4-1.5m with 512 MB RAM12:03
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Kpjaslonewolff: I have something much slower on mind12:03
nate__and its pretty fast12:03
nate__fast enough12:03
holycowPop_pa_FrEaK, there is very little linux cannot be installed on12:03
Fator_DeeKpjas: occasional swapping is the only problem12:03
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lonewolffi have debian sid on p2 133mhz with 80mb of ram (no x tho)12:04
mkdeKpjas, ubuntu is not the faster distro you will see. If you have low spec its not the best12:04
Fator_DeeKpjas: tell us the specs12:04
Pop_pa_FrEaKholycow well ubuntu won't install on my secondary pc12:04
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mkdetell us!12:04
Kpjasany experience with Thinkpads, Toshibas Compaqs ?12:04
Fator_Deemkde: installing a lighter DE helps a *lot*12:04
mkdei have a compaq12:04
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mkdeFator_Dee, sure12:04
Fator_Deeand I mean lots12:05
Fator_Deeor not using one at all :-)12:05
Seveastwm!12:05
KpjasToshiba Tecra 810012:05
KpjasPIII 600 and 128 RAM12:05
stuNNeddoes xfce work well on low end machines?12:05
Fator_DeeKpjas: the actual specs, brand and model wont say a word12:05
Kpjas12 GB storage12:05
Fator_DeestuNNed: yes12:05
P229no one uses Juno/NetZero here?12:05
Fator_DeeKpjas: install xfce or fluxbox or another lighter DE and you are good to go12:06
KpjasFator_Dee: DE ?12:06
Fator_DeeDesktop Environment12:06
Fator_Deeor Enviroment?12:06
Amaranth*sigh*12:06
KpjasI see12:06
Fator_Deewho cares :-p12:06
Amaranthsmeg may or may not work on Ubuntu's KDE due to them breaking the the menu-spec :/12:07
P229Fator_Dee with an "n" is correct :)12:07
Kpjasbut OO is out of question on PIII 600MHZ ?12:07
mkdeAmaranth, you need to go and kick some ass12:07
mkdeKpjas, imo yes12:07
Fator_DeeP229: I started thinking that too afterwards12:07
Amaranthmkde: I reopened a bug report about it. :)12:07
mkdeKpjas, it will take about a minute to load up12:07
mkdeAmaranth, thats not kicking ass12:08
spanglesontoasttake it no one will ever help me12:08
lonewolffKpjas: OO like to have a lot of ram#12:08
Amaranthmkde: I bitched in #ubuntu-devel12:08
mkdeAmaranth, go smeg them up12:08
mkdeAmaranth, yeah i saw ;)12:08
KpjasI wonder if it is straightforward to expand ram in a laptop ?12:08
mkdeKpjas, yep12:08
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lonewolffKpjas: yeah, no bother12:08
Fator_DeeKpjas: and when you install it, you might want to do a server install and then install the DE on "empty space"12:08
SeveasKpjas, depends on the laptop12:08
mkdeKpjas, on mine there is a little thing you open and stick in the RAM12:09
SeveasKpjas, and usually, laptop-mem is expensive12:09
KpjasSeveas: Toshiba Tecra12:09
Amaranthevery laptop i've seen seen they put 486s in laptops has had a little panel you open and pop in some ram12:10
Kpjasppl they selling them with Mandrake 10.1 and Openoffice (?)12:10
Amarantherr, seen since12:10
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spanglesontoastcan anyone help with sound?12:10
mkdespanglesontoast, find that file?12:10
KpjasThnx ppl for your opinions12:11
spanglesontoastya12:11
Kpjasand advice12:11
toxicfumeCould someone please help me with Ubuntu's display problems on my l aptop?12:11
spanglesontoastI had both files12:11
toxicfume*laptop12:11
spanglesontoastwhat do I need to put in it?12:11
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KpjasI must say Ub supports my digital camera (Canon PShot) very nicely and prev distros had problems12:13
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mkdespanglesontoast, no idea, maybe there is some information on the internet12:13
spanglesontoast...........12:14
mkdespanglesontoast, or you could use one sound card12:14
spanglesontoasti just wanna know how to change the sound cards number12:14
spanglesontoastso it's 0 instead of 112:14
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mkdespanglesontoast, i'm sure you will find a guide on google12:14
Seveasspanglesontoast, by disabling the on board sound?12:14
mkdetoxicfume, whats up?12:15
spanglesontoastno I want to use the onboard sound12:15
toxicfumemkde: well i am having display problems in my laptop, it's a ATI Radeon x700 64mb12:15
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toxicfumemkde: I tried following throughthis link: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto but it doesn't complete successfully12:15
JStrikeAmaranth : What is smeg?12:16
Seveasspanglesontoast, by removing your PCI card or adding its driver to /etc/hotplug/blacklist12:16
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AmaranthJStrike: menu editor12:16
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spanglesontoasthow do I find out what the sound module is called?12:16
toxicfumemkde: when i typed sudo apt-get update..some of the files couldn't be downloaded it seems..it report GPG Error12:16
Seveastoxicfume, paste the error please12:16
mkdetoxicfume, post me your sources.list in private12:16
JStrikeAmaranth : Wasn't aware Gnome had adopted a menu editor yet12:17
mkdetoxicfume, or better, on a paste website12:17
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mkdeJStrike, Amaranth has written one12:17
AmaranthJStrike: They have their own for 2.12, but it doesn't do much. Mine is unofficial.12:17
toxicfumemkde: and then when I typed sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx it reported some dependencies missing12:17
toxicfumemkde and JStrike: how do i do that? I don't have X running in ubuntu :(12:17
AmaranthJStrike: And it runs on hoary x86 installs too. :)12:17
Seveastoxicfume, do you have restricted & universe enabled?12:17
mkdecough multiverse12:18
toxicfumeSeveas: i guess i do12:18
toxicfumemultiverse too i think12:18
mkdetoxicfume, did you copy the conf file from that page I posted you?12:18
JStriketoxicfume : Hoary?12:18
toxicfumemkde: i can't copy..i don't have X working, i manually typed the chagnes(yes i know that's prone to typo's)12:18
toxicfumeJStrike: yes12:18
nickrudmkde, I wanted to thank you for this link: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles, but got called way at the time :)12:19
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mkdetoxicfume, ok there is likely a typo. Just to be clear, it is only the FIRST or SECOND box on that page you need to copy12:19
JStriketoxicfume : Not sure. Never heard of xorg-driver-fglrx12:19
mkdetoxicfume, the second is a bit more clear12:19
mkdenickrud, np its not my work ;)12:19
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toxicfumemkde: i copied only the second12:20
nickrudmkde it's still on the wiki, and I'll remember it12:20
hajikihas anyone had problems editing a remote file by using 'Places>Connect to Server' ?12:20
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mkdetoxicfume, perfect!12:20
mkdetoxicfume, check for typos12:20
mkdenickrud,*nods*12:20
toxicfumeJStrike: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto is where i am getting the file from12:20
toxicfumemkde: okay, wil ldo that :)12:20
Amaranthmkde: Do you ever go to #php, #python, or #twisted?12:20
mkdetoxicfume, once apt-get update is working, then go back to the BinaryDriverHowTo12:20
mkdeAmaranth, no i can't code, why?12:20
Amaranthmkde: Your nick looks familiar.12:21
mkdei am mdke12:21
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mkdeAmaranth, i use two nicks, cos i'm on with my laptop right now12:21
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stevenj77Can somone please help me - a fresh hoary install and my SB audigy (1) works..I installed totem-xine, codecs, and set multimedia to ALSA...no sound works....I get no errors BUT no sound in XMMS, TOtem-xine, it was working12:23
mkdeAmaranth, this network?12:23
toxicfumemkde: i can't find any typos :S12:23
Amaranthmkde: yeah12:23
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mkdetoxicfume, ok can you describe the error12:23
eyequeueAmaranth:  where should i send a bug report about smeg 0.6? (AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'appendChild')12:23
stevenj77I have checked alsamixer, mutes etc12:23
toxicfumemkde: the sudo apt-get update error?12:23
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eyequeueAmaranth:  forum? #flood? email?12:24
mkdetoxicfume, yah12:24
stevenj77does anyone know of some additional test I can run to figure out my sound problem12:24
Amarantheyequeue: if you're using 0.6.2 email the full error to alleykat@gmail.com along with what you did when the error occured12:24
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hajikican anyone help me verify if this issue i'm having is a bug or just on my system?12:25
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penguin42DOes anyone here use backuppc with tar as the transport?  Is it possible to store the tars rather than the individual files?12:25
mkdehajiki, you have to be a bit more specific12:25
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eyequeueAmaranth:  dang, it's just 0.6 .. i was adding a new item to the accessories submenu, the first use of smeg, so i don't know if it's my system or the app12:25
toxicfumemkde: "W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid BADSIG (alphanumeric characters here) Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"12:25
mactinyhow would u guys rate linspire for a first time linux user12:25
mkdetoxicfume, ooh interesting12:26
mkdemactiny, ubuntu is good for a first timer12:26
mkdebut then again, what did you expect me to say12:26
mactinyhehe12:26
Amaranthmactiny: You're in an Ubuntu channel so you'll get biased replies but linspire is horrid.12:26
eyequeueAmaranth:  i only found 0.6 on the site the other night, is there a url for 0.6.2?12:26
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Amaranthmactiny: It sets you up as root.12:26
toxicfumemkde: and another error which is similar: "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid BADSIG (alphanumeric characters here) Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"12:26
Amarantheyequeue: It's in the forums.12:26
mactinyyes, i thought u lot would be biased12:26
hajikiwhen i create a mount to an sftp sever using the ssh transport on Places>Connect to Server, I can't edit the files with the Text Editor. Whey I type nothing happens... I can create new files, drag them in, just not edit them.12:26
mactinyexactly what about linspire dont u aprove of12:26
mkdetoxicfume, ok there must be something wrong with your ubuntu gpg keys hang on12:26
Amaranthmactiny: It sets you up as root.12:27
toxicfumemkde: i never messed around with that :S alright...12:27
mkdehajiki, that is normal i think12:27
Amaranthmactiny: Which means one wrong command or program bug can completely wipe your HD.12:27
mactinybut surely that cant be the main complaint12:27
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mactinybut i get what yoy gettign at12:27
hajikioh12:27
Pop_pa_FrEaKanyone here use amarok for playing music ?12:28
mactinyi am a noob, but dont most distros set you up as root12:28
mkdetoxicfume, ok have you got the package ubuntu-keyring12:28
mactinyim not trying to stir, just asking so that i can undertsand12:28
Seveashajiki, you need to use a gnome-vfs aware text editor12:28
mkdemactiny, no most set you up as user12:28
Seveasmactiny, the opposite!12:28
Amaranthmactiny: Ubuntu doesn't even have a root. most set you up as a user12:29
mactinyheh ok12:29
mactinyi understand now12:29
Amaranthmactiny: Only Linspire and Windows set you up as root12:29
lonewolffPop_pa_FrEak: yes12:29
toxicfumemkde: how do i know that?>12:29
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Pop_pa_FrEaKlonewolff, how did you get an engine to work in amarok ?12:29
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mkdetoxicfume, good question. dpkg -l|grep ubuntu-keyring i think12:29
hajikiSeveas, can u name one please?12:29
Seveasgedit12:29
lonewolffPop_pa_FrEak: engine?12:29
mactinythanks for asking my questions12:29
Pop_pa_FrEaKyes like alsa or akode12:29
hajikithats what im using12:29
stevenj77why is sound so crappy in ubuntu-it works then does'nt?12:30
mkdetoxicfume, if it comes up with ii on the left, you've got it12:30
mactinyi shall be getting to bed now12:30
toxicfumemkde: looks like i do12:30
lonewolffPop_pa_FrEak: im not using one (it says no engine) it just worked when i opened it12:30
mactiny"thanks for asking my questions" - from that i think we can see that i need to get to bed12:30
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Pop_pa_FrEaKok I'll search around12:30
Amaranthhajiki: I can't edit with gedit over sftp either.12:30
Strifeyou should edit with vim12:31
mkdetoxicfume, ok try doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-keyring"12:31
Strifebecause vim > *12:31
mkdegedit is quite nice12:31
AmaranthStrife: Since when was vim gnome-vfs aware?12:31
Strifeyeah gedit really isn't so bad I guess12:31
penguin42is gvim? I doubt it12:31
StrifeAmaranth: why the hell do you need that?12:31
toxicfumemkde: done12:31
mkdetoxicfume, then try update again12:31
hajikii love vim and all but like someone said it isnt vfs aware :(12:31
AmaranthStrife: You'd be surprised.12:31
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mkdetoxicfume, btw did you get some "added" messages?12:32
Strifeactually, I think gvim is vfs aware12:32
Amaranthi doubt it12:32
Strifewell12:32
toxicfumemkde: nope, didn't get any added messages12:32
Strifewhy do you need it to be vfs aware?12:32
penguin42hajiki: sftp is an evil hack - its not surprising editing is dodgy with it12:32
mkdetoxicfume, what messages did you get?12:32
Amaranthon ubuntu vim-gtk and vim-gnome are the same thing, not a good sign12:32
penguin42Strife: Someone trying to edit things over sftp12:32
hajikianyone else think thats a bug? or should i not bother with a bug report...12:32
toxicfumemkde: okay ran the update, and the error is still there but reduced by 1(there were 2 earlier)12:32
AmaranthStrife: So I can edit files that you access with gnome-vfs?12:32
mkdetoxicfume, which is left?12:32
AmaranthStrife: Like files somewhere else on a network.12:33
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StrifeAmaranth: bah, who needs that?12:33
toxicfumemkde: i just remember seeing something like processed: 2 unchaged: 212:33
Strife:)12:33
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mkdetoxicfume, k12:33
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dimeois there a way to find out what synaptic just installed?12:33
toxicfumemkde: "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid BADSIG (alphanumeric characters here) Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"12:33
mkdeshit12:33
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mkdeanyone else have any ideas on that GPG error?12:33
Amaranthbad mirror12:34
mkdewe just did a dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-keyring12:34
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mkdeAmaranth, but but...12:34
mkdeits the main mirror no?12:34
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Amaranthdoes security have mirrors? :)12:34
Amaranthi know archives.ubuntu.com is on a round-robin DNS or some similar feature12:34
mkdeAmaranth, i thought there were only 2 mirrors...12:35
Amaranthso it looks like the same server but is actually any one of them12:35
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mkdetoxicfume, try editing your sources.list and putting us. in front of all the addresses, like this:  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com12:35
toxicfumeso can i somehow change the mirror url?12:35
penguin42security.ubuntu is one of two machines12:35
toxicfumemkde: okay12:35
oferwwhen is the date for the next release?12:36
mkdeoferw, october12:36
penguin42mkde: the error is from security.ubuntu.com not archive12:36
mkdegood point12:36
mkdetoxicfume, yeah scrap that idea12:36
mkdeits working here12:36
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toxicfumemkde: even us.security?12:36
toxicfumeokay i'll scrap that12:37
mkdeis there a mirror for security?12:37
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penguin42mkde: there is no us.security12:37
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mkdetoxicfume, ^^12:37
mkdepenguin42, could you direct your remarks to toxicfume too pls12:37
penguin42nod12:37
LithiIs there a way to use apt-get to install a package to ramdisk while working off the livecd?12:37
toxicfumemkde: yeah i saw that12:37
mkdetoxicfume, no idea what is wrong, its working fine here12:38
toxicfumemkde: damn sucks for me :/12:38
ShuddertrixLithi: As far as i know, no, but you can use klik on the livecd (I think)12:39
LithiShuddertrix: Whats klik?12:39
giggsey[23:38:46]  * mez huggles giggsey -> oO12:39
penguin42toxicfume: please try changing security.ubuntu.com to   82.211.81.138  and if that doesn't work try 82.211.81.151 - those are the two addresses of security.ubuntu.com (I got that by doing dig security.ubuntu.com)12:39
Mez:D12:39
ShuddertrixKlik is meant for knoppix and the likes, it might work for the ubuntu livecd12:40
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oferwany events planned before the release?12:40
giggseylol Mez :P12:40
stevenj77why would sound appear to play in xmms, totem-xine (NO errors) yet no sound from speakers???12:40
ShuddertrixLithi: kilk.atekon.de12:40
toxicfumepenguin42: okay, i'll try that now12:40
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eyequeueAmaranth:  mail enroute12:41
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nickrudhmm, isn't hoary updates on archive ubuntu.com, not security?12:41
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stevenj77The volumn monitor (Applications --> sound and video --> volumn monitor)12:41
penguin42nickrud: Certianly I have archive and security in my apt sources12:41
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toxicfumepenguin42: looks like i'm getting some more packages with the first ip12:41
LithiShuddertrix: dns error.. Anyways with this kilk can I install Etheral?12:42
nickrud "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-updates penguin4212:42
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ShuddertrixLithi: klik.atekon.de12:43
ShuddertrixJust noticed my typo.12:43
toxicfumeugh, now i'm beginning to get "503 service unavailable" from the 1st ip12:43
ShuddertrixEthereal is on the klik page, yes.12:43
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giggseyMez -> how long is the kline?12:44
Mez10m12:44
giggseykk12:44
carloshi12:45
nickrudpenguin42 deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse12:45
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penguin42nickrud: Nod, I have that - but I also have:   deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted12:45
mkdenickrud, hoary-updates are separate to hoary-security12:46
eyequeuepenguin42:  both are appropriate12:46
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mkde*grins*12:46
mkdethings are getting surreal12:47
eyequeuepenguin42:  "updates" aren't necessarily related to security issues at all12:47
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mkdeeyequeue, we're talking about something else, penguin42 knows that12:47
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carloscan someone tell me how to install a file in ubuntu linux_12:47
nickrudI defer, I just was suprised that a repository that was security would also have updates12:47
toxicfumepenguin42: i'm trying the 2nd ip now, hopefully i don'tget 503 errors with this12:47
lonewolffcarlos: what king of file?12:47
stevenj77well after I updated...My sound broke..this is bullshit12:47
toxicfumeer..guess i spoke too soon12:48
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hugoneed some help12:48
penguin42hugo: What's up?12:48
mkdecarlos, you can use the Add/Remove Programs utility in the Applications->System Tools menu, or the more advanced Synaptic package manager in the System->admin menu12:48
hugoiwconfig keeps saving a key    i dont need      i need different key12:48
hugohow cani purge the key form iwconfig   in the script12:48
carlosthanx i will try that12:48
hugoi think it is using this as default12:48
hugopenguin42,  any ideas ?12:49
penguin42toxicfume: OK - if everyone else is fine then it is more likely that something is special about your setup that is broken; so lets put that apt.sources back to the way it was - and then figure out whats up with oyur system12:49
penguin42hugo: Nope - I'm not a wireless person12:49
hugopenguin42,  iwconfig i thin is overridung the networ setting for gnome12:49
hugopenguin42,  where can i edit network devices ??12:49
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mkdehugo, you can set the key in the gnome network utility, iwconfig shouldn't override it12:49
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toxicfumepenguin42: so i chnge the ip back to security.ubuntu.com?12:50
penguin42toxicfume: Nod12:50
hugoanyone wireless/ubuntu guru here ??12:50
oscarhhugo, guru or just wireless user?12:50
toxicfumepenguin42: done12:50
oscarhhugo, i'm on wireless now12:50
penguin42hugo: System menu->administration->networki settings   - but you need to ask others about wireless12:50
hugooscarh,    either  i need to fix this12:50
pirroHis there some quick how-to for ubuntu+cups web interface enabling??12:50
TriniTriggsno guru, but my laptop works with wireless.... but if not pinged for 20 minutes, connection dies and works only with system reboot12:50
lonewolffhug0: whats up with your wireless?12:51
hugopenguin42,    iwconfig is saving an old essid and old key12:51
penguin42toxicfume: So how are you connected to the net?12:51
hugolonewolff,  i need to change key and have it save12:51
lonewolffhugo: edit /etc/network/interfaces12:51
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pirroHI've already tried using lppasswd12:51
lonewolffi had the same problem a while back12:51
hugolonewolff,   kewl  ill look now12:51
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toxicfumepenguin42: okay here's my config: this computer i'm on ight now (windows) is connected direcly to the internet via the USB ADSL modem. and the ubuntu laptop is connectedto this computer with a crossover cable12:52
lonewolfftoxicfume: set up ICS on the windows machine?12:52
toxicfume*right12:52
toxicfumelonewolff: already12:52
oscarhhugo, iwconfig key off12:52
penguin42toxicfume: So on the ubuntu box does just going to some random web site work?12:53
jakeAnyone here know a some kind of program to store all sort of login-info?12:53
hugooscarh,   doesnt work12:53
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hugolonewolff, that was it  ty  very much12:53
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lonewolfftoxicfume: give the linux machine an ip and tell it to use the windows machine as gateway and all should work12:53
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hugolonewolff,  the old code was there   i overwrote it there12:53
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toxicfumepenguin42: well, X doen't work for me (which i need apt-get update for it to work) so i don'tknow how to try that12:53
hugoim off to test  ty guys12:53
lonewolffi had a similar setup a but ago12:53
oscarhhugo, i see u managed to make it without me :D12:54
lonewolffs/but/bit12:54
toxicfumelonewolff: no the internet works fine, that's not the problem  i think12:54
lifelessyay unison12:54
lonewolfftoxicfume: whats the problem?12:54
penguin42toxicfume: OK, from the command line try typing   lynx http://www.ubuntu.com12:54
jeff25heh12:54
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toxicfumepenguin42: lynx: command not found...do i have to be in /?12:54
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penguin42lonewolff: He has weirdo gpg errors on trying to do upgrades - but I'm wondering if his network is broke12:54
jakeAnyone here know a some kind of program to store all sort of login-info?12:55
penguin42toxicfume: Can you install lynx from the install cds ?12:55
toxicfumepenguin42: i have only 1 install cd :/12:55
penguin42toxicfume: OK, just try apt-get install lynx12:55
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toxicfumepenguin42: okay, it's d/ling12:56
penguin42toxicfume: Is it sucking that over the net?12:56
toxicfumepenguin42: yes12:56
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penguin42hmm - if it manages that then you'd think it would manage the other stuff12:57
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hmsmarianoi think i need a plugin for mp312:57
hmsmarianomay somebody help with this?12:57
hmsmariano(under ubuntu)12:57
toxicfumepenguin42: yeah, it seems quite wierd12:57
lonewolffhmsmariano: info in the faq about restricted formats12:57
toxicfumepenguin42: and well, if you still wanted to know lynx can surf ubuntu fine12:58
lonewolffhmm that is very strange12:58
penguin42toxicfume: OK - so that means your network isn't horribly broken!12:58
ShadowRagehow do I get tv-out with a nvidia chipset?12:58
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toxicfumepenguin42: ah, now wth's causing the gpg error :/12:59
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dimeocan't ubuntu read a msdos floppy disk?  I click on floppy under "places" and it says it can't read the filesystem12:59
lonewolffdi12:59
bzbbI setup fglrx, and OpenGL stills runs really bad, and fgl_glxgears doesn't work01:00
penguin42toxicfume: Damned if I know - you need to find someone who really knows how the key stuff works01:00
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lonewolffdimeo: try sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mount/point from command line01:00
penguin42bzbb: if you do glxinfo does it tell you that rendering is direct?01:00
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toxicfumepenguin42: ah..guess i have to wait..this error's irritating hehe01:00
bzbbpenguin42, no01:00
penguin42bzbb: That's normally a bad sign for 3D stuff01:01
toxicfumeuntil this complete's, ubuntu wouldn't be ableto display X on my screen :(01:01
bzbbpenguin42, yeah01:01
bzbbI figured that was the problem01:01
toxicfume*completes01:01
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Enkiduwhat does a red file in ls mean?01:01
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penguin42toxicfume: ok, two things I can think of - since I know nothing about how the key stuff works - 1) run a RAM test on your machine - I've seen authentication things fail due to randomly corrupted downloands (unlikely)   2) Is your ISP/windows box adding some crap to your http downloads (e.g. a header or something from a proxy) - I don't know if that would mangle it - but again I think thats unlikely01:02
penguin42Enkidu: It is normally a symbolic link whose destination file is missing01:02
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Enkidupenguin42, the file is a zip file tho01:03
penguin42oh01:03
syndhey guys, how do i put shortcuts (icons) onto the Xfce desktop?01:03
penguin42Enkidu: Show us the full line of output for an ls -l of that zip file01:03
penguin42Enkidu: I take it back - red is just compressed files; (red on invert background is broken link)01:04
Enkidu-rw-r--r--   1 root root 37432551 2005-05-20 12:06 linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz201:04
penguin42Enkidu: Its just highlighting compressed files for you - nothing to worry about01:04
Enkiduok01:04
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dimeois everyone here able to mount their floppy drive properly? This seems pretty stupid...01:07
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giggseyswish!01:07
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jakeAnyone know what Gnome uses instead of Kwallet?01:08
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Mezyour memory ;)01:08
jakeHehe01:08
carloshi, can someone tell me how to install a downloaded file (like firefox 1.04_)01:09
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refuze2loozeis there a program i can browse winamp's internet TV in linux?01:09
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fishiecarlos:did you extract it?01:09
carlosyes i did01:09
fishiego to terminal. then ./install-sh01:10
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ShadowRageanyone here have composite enabled?01:10
carlosok fishie01:10
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dimeohow do I mount the floppy?  system-->computer-->floppy doesn't work01:10
Anubis tar -cvvfZz pix.tar.gz stuff/01:10
Anubistar: pix.tar.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory01:10
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twisted_steelrefuze2looze: maybe http://lintelkku.sourceforge.net/01:11
Anubiswhats that mean?01:11
Anubisand how can I tell tar where to put the new tar.gz?01:11
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john6001hello01:12
Eddiehello01:12
nbkwhats up people01:12
john6001how do i install a .deb?01:12
jeff25aterm -name "Gentoo Terminal" -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-c-*-iso9859-2 -sl 3000 -tr +sb -sr +ls -si -sk -bg black -shad01:12
jeff25oops01:12
plovsjohn6001: sudo dpkg -i *.deb01:12
john6001ok01:12
john6001thanks01:12
penguin42Anubis: Well normally I use tar -cvzf blah.tar.gz stuff   - so what you did looks right although I've never seen z and Z used together01:13
spiderwormhey all, im trying to figure out where the nfs server share configuration file is.... according to nfs website, it's supposed to be /etc/export, but it's not there and I can't find it anywhere01:13
spiderwormanybody know where it would be?01:13
penguin42spiderworm: If you haven't got any yet it won't exist01:13
spiderwormo i c i create it01:13
spiderwormpenguin42: well that explains it.  thanx01:13
penguin42nod01:13
lonewolffspiderworm: /etc/exports actually and it wont exists untill you make it01:13
john6001any ops here?01:14
Mezer01:14
Mezquestion01:14
john6001irc ops?01:14
penguin42spiderworm: No prob - man exports   tells you the format01:14
Mezthe default PHP build doesnt include01:14
refuze2loozetwisted_steel: thanks i'll check it out01:14
Mezthe string functions01:14
MezFatal error: Call to undefined function: stripos() in /var/www/test.php on line 7401:14
spiderwormNo manual entry for exports01:14
lonewolffspiderworm: got nfs installed?01:14
spiderwormbut i got a website that shows the formats, thanx for the speedy & helpful tips01:15
penguin42spiderworm: Try installing the nfs-kernel-server package01:15
spiderwormlonewolff: yes01:15
spiderwormtyvm01:15
dimeooff to find out how to fix this stinkin unmountable floppy  l8rz01:15
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EddieHaving problems with installation of Ubuntu 5.04.  After installed it boots up but stops and displays the following: GRUB Load Stage 1.5., Error 2.  Can anyone help me on this01:15
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penguin42ooooh01:16
penguin42Eddie: Is there anything odd about your machine - os it a nice simple one?01:16
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Eddieits a simple machine01:16
penguin42hmm; any usb storage devices plugged in?01:16
Eddieno01:17
penguin42hmm - what size is your hard drive? Do you know if it is ATA, SATA or SCSI ?01:17
Eddie20 G, ATA01:17
nbkhey, just instaled ubuntu from debian, and gotta say i was freaking amazed when it recognized my wireless card off the bat (1st time thats ever happened to me!). However the OS drivers for my card just plain suck donkey balls, so what do i gotta do to uninstall them so I can ndiswrapper the windows(sry) drivers (works great)01:17
penguin42Eddie: Dual booting or just ubuntu ?01:18
Eddiejust ubuntu01:18
penguin42Eddie: Damn - well theres no obvious reason it should break then :-(01:18
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stuNNednbk: add the OS drivers to /etc/hotplug/blacklist, install ndiswrapper-utils ?01:19
penguin42Eddie: How did you partition it? How old is the machine it is in?01:19
nbkacx111 chipset i think01:19
nbkwill that totally stop pthem from loading? thx01:19
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ritalinhello01:20
ritalinany familiar with scp here?01:20
ritalinanyone*01:20
penguin42yes01:20
EddieFollow the instructions on the ubuntu cd and partitioned it automatically.01:20
stuNNednbk: it should01:20
lonewolffritalin: yes01:20
Rev_FryAnywho... if folks are getting hangs with AMD64s in either i386 or AMD64 install... try disabling powernowd... it appears to have worked for me01:20
othernoobanyone know a powerful math program ? (linear algebra, analysis, numerics )01:20
penguin42Eddie: How old is the machine?01:20
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ritalinothernoob: irb01:21
EddieThe motherboard is a shuttle MK40 V1.3A01:21
othernoobritalin: where can i get it ? is it in universe/multiverse ?01:21
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penguin42Eddie: It should just work01:21
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novahow well does enlightenment run on uuntu?01:22
jakeAnyone know what the ubuntu symbol in synaptic means?...01:22
EddieAbout a 1 year old01:22
ritalinothernoob: heh its ruby's interactive shell01:22
novaubuntu that is01:22
ritalinpython would work too01:22
nbkcool, im not exactly sure what the OS driver is called though?01:22
psychey, anyone here has ubuntu with amd64 ?01:22
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penguin42othernoob: There is a thing called 'octave' - I don't know if its the type of thing your after01:22
othernoobritalin: heh, isnt ruby a programming language while im looking for a math prog ;)01:23
penguin42othernoob: 'octave - The GNU Octave language for numerical computations'01:23
ritalinprogramming languages are good at math01:23
ritalinothernoob: bc wont cut it?01:23
EddieI have read that maybe it cannot find certain files at startup.01:23
othernoobritalin: heh yea i could do my own prog in java or haskell, but that's not quite what i want to spend my time with. bc ?01:24
ritalintype bc in prompt01:24
othernoobpenguin42: thanks, i'll check it out01:24
ritalinit should be stanard01:24
novaok let me phrase a diffrent way if i installenlightenment will i break ubuntu? hehe01:24
ritalinerr standard01:24
penguin42Eddie: Nod - it sounds like its not able to find either the kernel or more likely some important part of grub; is your drive attached as the primary drive on the first controller?01:24
ritalinman bc for more info01:24
Eddieyes01:24
ritalini always use irb for math but then again i dont do much math01:25
nbkstuNNed: from lsmod  "acx_pci               134816  0" would that be it?01:25
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lonewolffnight all01:25
stuNNednbk: probly so, and everything associated with it01:25
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stuNNednight lonewolff01:25
penguin42Eddie: Damned if I know then; I suggest   1) See if there are any existing bug reports in the ubuntu bugzilla  2) Boot off a rescue/install cd and see what is actually on the drive - you should find a /boot/grub with a handful of files01:26
Madpilotdoes anyone know if it's possible to add more genres to SoundJuicer's listings? it's pretty limited...01:26
othernoobritalin: just checked out bc, and no, i'd need a quite a bit more advanced prog. not just simple 1+1=2 (or 0 in F_2 ;) )01:26
ritalinheh01:27
ritalinothernoob: http://www.5z.com/jirka/genius.html01:27
ritalini hear its pretty powerful01:27
ritalinlike a opensource mathematica01:27
nbkstuNNed: associated with it? any way to tell whats associated with it?01:27
EddieDo I use the same installation CD or Do  I have to make a rescue CD01:27
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othernoobritalin: now we're talking :) looks promising :)01:28
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stuNNednbk: any others that have acx next to them or wlan or the like01:28
penguin42Eddie: If you are good with a command line then the install cd can get a prompt on alt-f2 I think; else I think youre probably going to have to find other suggestions01:28
stuNNednbk: hopefully if you add them to the blacklist when you reboot they will not load and you can use ndiswrapper01:28
alfonsoalguien en espaol?01:28
nbkstuNNed: cool, thanks, guess ill go try it out, later01:29
stuNNednbk: cya, good luck01:29
ritalinok scp question time01:29
thechitowncubsDoes anyone know the IRC channel for NVU?01:29
thechitowncubschannel and server...01:29
ritalinIm connected to my webserver via ssh, id like to download my index.html so i can work on it at home01:30
EddieWell I am new to the world of Linux.  I am an older of Windows operating system01:30
stuNNedritalin: scp file user@remotebox:/somedir01:30
Eddieshould I say oldie of windows01:30
penguin42Eddie: You've hit a problem that shouldn't happen - you're going to need to have someone sit down at your machine and help - is their a LUG near you?01:30
ritalini hav4e been using sftp but it seems like alot of trouble to have to end the connection01:30
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ritalinstuNNed: k ill try it01:30
alejandro_hello .... a quick quistion01:30
alejandro_how to change folder's permissions by root terminal ??01:31
Eddiewhat do you mean by "LUG"01:31
stuNNedalejandro_: with chmod command01:31
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tenebrousLinux User Group01:31
penguin42Eddie: A Linux User Group - there are lots - find one and they should be able to help01:31
alejandro_an example plz ....01:31
penguin42Eddie: There is probably one near you01:31
bexandyhola a todos01:31
bexandyhi people01:32
airoxhi bexandy01:32
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bexandysomebody spaak in spanish here ?01:32
bexandyspeak spanish?01:32
bexandysomebody?01:32
stuNNedbexandy: there is #ubuntu-es or something01:32
airox#ubuntu-es01:32
airox:)01:32
penguin42ritalin: If you open the file browser then you can open a network connection via ssh and use the filebroweser to copy things if you find that more convenient01:32
bexandythx01:32
EddieHow do I find a LUG?01:33
ritalinpenguin42: nah cause its more then just a webserver so im always ssh'd into it01:33
stuNNedEddie: there is listing at linux.org afaik01:33
ritalinmy school gives me a sunOS account to play with01:33
penguin42Eddie: I'd google for LUG and your nearest city - where are you?01:33
EddieNew York City01:33
stuNNedah, plenty LUG's there i'm sure :)01:34
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penguin42Eddie: http://www.nylug.org/home/index.shtml01:34
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bexandyexcuse, how can i connect to ubuntu-es ?01:35
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Eddieok, thank you01:35
alejandro_how do i change permissions by chmod ?? (example: /home/myfolder)01:35
Merlin615hey all, need some help setting up a printer01:35
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ritalinbexandy: /join #ubuntu-es01:35
bexandywhere?01:35
ritalinfrom the prompt you type with01:35
mz2how'd i run the similar X autoconfiguration that Ubuntu does during the installation?01:36
ritalin  /join #ubuntu-es01:36
bexandyok thx01:36
ritalinnp01:36
bexandythanks ritalin01:36
bexandy:)01:36
penguin42Eddie: Sorry I couldn't fix the problem01:36
Eddieno problem, I appreciate your interest in helping others.01:37
Merlin615any had experience setting up a lexmark z35 or similar usb printer?01:38
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MadpilotMerlin615: I've got a Lexmark Z32 w/ USB01:41
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Merlin615ok, got a z35, found the suse driver on the net01:42
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Merlin615get an error when running it though01:42
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MadpilotMerlin615: I didn't have to install any drivers for my Z32, it auto-detected when Ubuntu started...01:43
Merlin61532, 35 isn't though01:43
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othernoobisnt suse rpm based ?01:43
othernoobdid you alienate the rpm ?01:44
Merlin615no01:44
Merlin615.gz.sh01:44
Merlin615type01:44
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othernoobMerlin615: here's a guide for the z615 http://www.staerk.de/thorsten/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4301:44
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othernoobmaybe you can use it accordingly01:45
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MauroNetHi, Do you install any Postgre on Ubuntu?01:46
MadpilotMerlin615: Linuxprinting.org has no listing for the Z35...01:46
Merlin615ok, thanks01:46
othernoobMadpilot: linuxprinting.org has no listing for brother hl-2030 , hl-2040 and both work flawlessly..01:47
thechitowncubsIs there any way to use "soft links" in nvu?01:47
thechitowncubsFor Example, i have my webpage in this directory on my computer ( /home/thechitowncubs/website/thechitowncubs/ )   and all my files are in there the same way they are on the website... but when i use the same files from the website locally, they css doesn't get loaded or any of the images because it is looking for it in my root directory of my computer, not my /home/thechitowncubs/website/thechitowncubs directory... get it n01:47
thechitowncubsow?01:47
Madpilotothernoob: true, and I've noticed a lot of the newer printers aren't listed at all, either.01:47
Madpilotwhich is too bad, because I'm looking to ditch my Lexmark...01:48
Madpilotanyone want a Z32 that works when it feels like it? :)01:48
othernoobMadpilot: yea :/ and it also doesnt mention anything about official drivers, if there are some01:48
thechitowncubslol01:48
othernoobheh Z32.. i had the z31..no thanks lol never lexmark again..01:48
Madpilotothernoob: yup, I'm going Canon or Epson this time. Lexmark has the most INSANE ink prices!01:49
othernoobMadpilot: are you getting a laserprinter?01:49
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Madpilotothernoob: no, another inkjet.01:50
othernoobit's always been cheaper to buy a new lexmark than buying their ink cartridges ;)01:50
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Madpilotothernoob: no kidding...01:51
raDeonwhat up01:51
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Madpilotothernoob: neither of the inkjet models I'm interested in are listed at linuxprinters.org... :(01:55
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beginnerhello01:57
hybrideveryone leavin01:57
hybridbeginner: hello01:57
beginneris any metod to install aol?01:57
JStrikebeginner : AOL instant messenger?01:57
hybridbeginner: aol...01:57
fortran01beginner: you can use gaim01:58
beginneraol soft01:58
hybridbeginner: isp im browser01:58
othernoobMadpilot: did you check out the forums at linuxprinting.org ? maybe they are mentioned there, the hl 2030 and 2040 were mentioned there as well01:58
othernoobwhich is why i got the 2030 :)01:58
hybridbeginner: what is soft01:58
JStrikebeginner : Not sure what aol soft is01:58
beginnerlike in xp01:58
beginnerwhen i install all of it01:58
hybridbeginner: explain plz01:58
beginnerall aol01:58
fortran01beginner: you can use http://gaim.sourceforge.net/01:58
JStrikebeginner : It is called AOL Soft?01:58
JStrikefortran01 : He said it wasn't instant messenger01:59
beginneri dont know how it is named:)01:59
Madpilotothernoob: didn't even know there were forums there. ;| will have to check them out01:59
hybridbeginner: what does it do01:59
beginnerdid u on xp ever have aol?01:59
othernoobMadpilot: :)02:00
hybridnope02:00
beginneri had it02:00
hybridb/sides aim02:00
JStrikebeginner : I think he might be talking bout the whole AOL shebang02:00
othernoobMadpilot: are you an experienced linux-user ?02:00
JStrikebeginner : Only the AOL Instant Messenger is available02:00
othernooboO shebang :O reminds me of the good ole pornsites i used to go to :/02:00
Madpilotothernoob: hardly! been on Ubuntu less than two weeks, WinXP & 98 before that!02:00
othernoobMadpilot: ah i see.02:01
beginneron xp i take aol8+ and with install i install it02:01
beginnerok02:01
JStrikebeginner : No. That isn't available02:01
beginnerok02:01
beginnerthankyou02:01
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JStrikebeginner : What part of it do you need? You can do similar things with different programs. i.e the app you are using now as apposed to AOL ChatRooms02:02
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beginneri loved aol02:03
beginner:)02:03
refuze2loozei'm trying to open a video stream in VLC that is full so i want it to keep re-trying over and over again.. i tried putting it in a play list and enabling repeat playlists and that didn't work.. anybody have any idea how i can have vlc keep retrying to play it?02:03
othernoobyou're a weird person beginner ;)02:03
beginnermaybe02:03
beginner;)02:03
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refuze2loozenvm i got it =)02:04
JStrikeothernoob : A large part of the internet populace loves AOL02:04
hybridJStrike: that percent is dropping though02:04
othernoobJStrike: i don't deny their weirdness ;)02:04
MadpilotJStrike: but the rest of us can't figure out why they love it... :)02:04
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hybridJStrike: come on who is goin to pay for an extra service ontop of your existing broadband02:05
JStrikeMadpilot : I can easily understand it02:05
hybridJStrike: genuis for them stupid for the consumer02:05
othernoobhybrid: depends on the "service" ;)02:05
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hybridothernoob: AOL service rofl02:07
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raDeonLOL AOL02:09
refuze2loozeAOL02:10
JStrikeI really dislike people with superior attitudes02:10
refuze2loozei saw everyone else writing it02:10
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JStrikerefuze2looze : :-)02:11
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Fanskapethmm anyone have a suggestion for a "good" GUI for wlan-management? eg. changing/searching hotspots etc.02:11
Fanskapetim not really satisfied with the GNOME network-management app.02:11
Fanskapetand that GNOME-applet sucks big time.. runs slow as hell.. may well be some missconfiguration from my side that makes it slow though.02:12
JeezisFanskapet: kwifimanager is the only other one i know of02:12
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refuze2loozewtf.. wxVLC keeps exiting due to Segmentation Fault02:12
FanskapetJeezis, oh that's the one with that terrible GUI :)02:12
Jeezisyup :-p02:12
Fanskapetyuck :)02:12
Fanskapetit's a coder who done that one :) not a designer :) that's for sure :)02:13
Jeezistrue that02:13
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Jeezisbut my wireless never worked02:13
Prophethey everyone, i keep getting this error when i try to compile stuff "No acceptable C compiler found in $PATH  See 'config.log' for more details" any ideas how to fix this?02:13
glickprophet apt-get install gcc02:13
BurgundaviaProphet, you need to install build-essential02:13
Propheti have it thoug02:13
Propheth02:14
JStrikeProphet : You probably dont have an acceptable C compiler installed02:14
Prophet3.4.402:14
BurgundaviaProphet, that will get gcc02:14
Fanskapethmm okey.. well i have it running in my current install it's just that the network-administration app sucks for management of a wlan card.02:14
Prophetim running ubuntu02:14
BurgundaviaProphet, and other things you need02:14
Propheti have gcc02:14
Fanskapetor well it works but not as i want it too.02:14
Prophetis there a way i can get gcc into $PATH or something?02:15
FanskapetJeezis did you use the ndiswrapper?02:15
glickProphet, type 'which gccc'02:15
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glickProphet, type 'which gcc'02:15
Prophetwhich gcc02:15
Prophet?02:15
JeezisFanskapet: nope the atmel driver02:15
glickProphet, type that into the command prompt02:15
Prophetok02:15
FanskapetJeezis ahh okey.. well ndiswrapper worked for me02:15
Fanskapetrunning a 64bit driver from windows..02:16
Jeezisi have a belkin f5d6020ver 202:16
Prophetnothing comes up02:16
glickprophet that means its not installed02:16
Prophetthen distrowatch lies lol02:16
Jeezis god my 2 yr old cousin is wreaking havoc with my comp02:16
glick'apt-get install gcc' at the command line as root02:17
Jeezisasdgfeft7u02:17
Fanskapet:)02:17
Jeezisrrjyyy3uki02:17
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nbkstuNNed: hey whats up, got it working, now i just have to add "modprobe ndiswrapper" somewhere so it loads at startup but i forget where02:17
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Jeezisrui90o.uirf45gffhyrerybhiQWQ XS3GVdrj3e5] sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss02:18
Jeeziswwgtj[02:18
hybridJeezis: STFU02:18
ajmitchJeezis: please don't02:18
othernoobcouldn't have said it better Jeezis02:18
Fanskapethehe i have some kind of ugly installation of mine :)02:19
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hmsmarianohey people02:19
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hybridhello hmsmariano02:19
Jeezissorry 2 yr old kives buttons02:19
hmsmarianoanybody can help with mp3 plugins for ubuntu?02:19
J35U5hmsmariano, use xmms02:20
thingfishhmsmariano: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad02:20
hmsmarianoyes J35u502:20
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Fanskapeti followed some newbie tutorial and ndiswrapper is being activated at startup.. however i get some nasty error something like "couldn't load driver module" blahablaha.. but my wlan is working anyway :)02:20
hmsmarianoi've done that but xmms and beep hang up02:20
J35U5hmm.02:20
hmsmarianowhen trying to play an mp302:20
nbkhey, i just set up my wireless card with ndiswrapper, what file do oi gotta change so ndiswrapper gets modprobed at boot though? thx02:21
hmsmarianois it necessary to install a plugin?02:21
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Fanskapetrc.d should work i guess02:22
jhaveHi02:22
ShuddertrixOdd. Gnome is not saving the list of startup applications correctly.02:22
hmsmarianohi jhave02:22
jhavecan i get 600*400 in grub ?02:22
Fanskapethmm gotta reinstall my ubuntu installation, it's just so messy right now.02:22
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Fanskapetand maybe i could get that damn FGLX driver to work this time.. hummz02:22
Fanskapetcrappy shit02:22
jim64654can someone help me configure a modem?02:23
hybridjim64654: MORE INFO PLZ02:23
jhavesombody there get the new cdroms ?02:23
hybridsrry for the caps02:23
raDeonHAHAHA CAP GUNS02:23
jhavei ordre some but dont get it02:23
jim64654i made a post here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=190881#post19088102:23
spanglesontoastanyone know how to compile programs?02:23
reisiospanglesontoast: man gcc02:24
Fanskapetbtw anyone here that had successfully got the glfx driver to work with an ATI Mobility 9700?02:24
hmsmarianowhich ones, jhave?02:24
hmsmarianohoary=02:24
Prophetok i got gcc and it works, no i get "C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check"02:24
Prophetnow*02:24
raDeonHAHAA HOARY TIGER02:24
glickwhen do you think xfce 4.2 will be put into debian testing or unstable?02:24
Fanskapethave tricked around alot with it.. but i always got a black screen upon xorg startup.02:24
Fanskapet(64bit driver)02:24
Shuddertrixglick: this isn't #debian, this is #ubuntu02:24
glickoops02:25
hybridglick: ubuntu has 4.2.102:25
glick:)02:25
Burgundaviaglick, to answer your question, I suspect after the sarge release02:25
BurgundaviaProphet, did you install build-essential?02:25
raDeonHAHAHA YOUR MOTHER'S NAME IS MURRAY02:25
glickBurgerMann, should be after a couple of days no?02:25
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Prophetdoing so now02:26
Burgundaviaglick, no idea when, but RSN02:26
reisioShuddertrix: that's a horrible thing to say :/02:26
reisioShuddertrix: Ubuntu should aim for Debian compatibility02:26
glickRSN>02:26
glick?02:26
reisiowhere would it be without Debian02:26
raDeonreisio: ideally.02:26
spanglesontoastis there a package for firestarter?02:26
Burgundaviaspanglesontoast, yes02:26
CowBrainevening yall02:26
hybridreisio: ubuntu is compatible but we are not *debian*02:26
Burgundaviareisio, we do, at the source level, not at the binary level02:26
Prophetok works now thanks02:26
raDeonhowever in an ideal world, we wouldn't have to deal with john kerry02:26
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jhavehmsmariano, some of INTEL32 and some of AMD6402:27
reisiohybrid: according to Ian Murdock, Ubuntu packages are often not compatible :p02:27
BR0KENnautilus automatically opened when i stuck a data cd in the drive.  how can i stop this behavior?02:27
spanglesontoastwhere?02:27
BurgundaviaraDeon, your statement are off topic and somewhat rude, can you please tak yourself somewhere else02:27
thingfishI second that02:27
Burgundaviareisio, on SARGE, not SID, which Ubuntu syncs to02:27
PacoBCNHi people. Anyone works or managed to work with infrared port?02:27
BR0KENraDeon is funny.02:27
Burgundaviaspanglesontoast, in universe. Have you enabled it?02:27
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spanglesontoastnot sure02:27
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reisioderivative distributions are silly imo02:28
spanglesontoastI tend to use synaptic02:28
navreetJohn Kerry!02:28
Burgundaviaspanglesontoast, in syn settings-->repos02:28
Burgundaviaspanglesontoast, add --> click on universe and multiverse02:28
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CowBrainman kubuntu i didnt know there was one with kde in it02:28
CowBrainhmmmm02:29
CowBraini may have some work to do heh02:29
Burgundaviareisio, Ubuntu aims to be as close to Debian as possible. We are very aware of the debt we owe them02:29
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spanglesontoastah ty02:29
spanglesontoastyea but you beat them lol02:29
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raDeonBurgundavia my comment was not off-topic at all02:30
raDeonit was highly on topic02:30
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Jeezisgood lord sorry about that02:30
jim64654can anyone help me configure my modem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=190881#post19088102:30
BurgundaviaraDeon, john kerry and someones mothers name is completely off topic for #ubuntu02:30
thingfish*plonk02:30
thingfishfor raDeon, that is.02:30
kikdadogi need a little help with my cd writer, anybody want to try02:30
raDeonNo it's not because john kerry does not support the ubuntu project02:30
Jeezismy little cousin discovered the limitless fun that are laptop keyboards02:31
thingfishhehe02:31
kikdadogbut al gore invented the net02:31
raDeonkikdadog02:31
raDeonyour mother's name is al gore02:31
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CowBrainwhats the best info site for ubuntu02:31
kikdadogumm,02:31
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spanglesontoastwhat does sun-rpc portmap mean?02:31
BurgundaviaCowBrain, what sort?02:32
kikdadoganybody a ubuntu genius02:32
Burgundaviaspanglesontoast, if you don't know, you don;t have to worry about it02:32
BurgundaviaRPC is remote procedure call02:32
kikdadog???02:32
BurgundaviaSun is Sun, of Java02:32
spanglesontoastah ok02:32
raDeonCowBrain www.google.com02:32
spanglesontoastso I can let it through?02:32
kikdadogi need a guru02:32
CowBrainhmmm not sure i understand the question Burgundavia though im using the latest release the hoary hedgeho i think it is02:32
hybridkikdadog: i am a genuis and use ubuntu do i qualify02:32
Lafitte-anyone familiar with the built in wireless gui and iwconfig both ?    have question about connecting02:32
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BurgundaviaCowBrain, forums at ubuntuforums.org02:33
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BurgundaviaCowBrain, help here or there02:33
CowBrainok thanks02:33
BurgundaviaCowBrain, wiki for help02:33
kikdadogif u can figuire out my prob u will qualify02:33
jim64654i posted there and no help02:33
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hybridkikdadog: whts up02:33
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kikdadogwhen i insert a blank cd it is automatically recognised, but when i try to burn , it cant find the cd02:34
kikdadogthe writer i mean02:34
othernoobhow do i install gnome ?02:35
thingfishapt-get install gnome02:35
=== spanglesontoast hey lok a hey bundle
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hybridis the burner prog  config to see the burner02:35
othernoobthanks, thought so, wasnt sure if that's all02:35
thingfishhow did you get ubuntu installed, without installing gnome?02:36
othernoobkubuntu ;)02:36
thingfishI was thinking that...02:36
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jhave_sombody there can help me whit grub ?02:36
spanglesontoastcould have told us that we were hanging there02:36
spanglesontoast:D02:36
thingfishhehe02:36
othernoobi prefer kde, but the prog genius needs gnome ..02:36
kikdadogyea k3b sees it, all graveman and, gnomebaker see it. the strange thing is when i try to configuire xcdroast it doenst see a thing freeses on the looking for devices screen02:37
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Fanskapetagh.. i feel the need for a virtual-cdrom device in XP64!02:37
Fanskapetdon't have CDR's at home right now :/02:37
hybridcan u burn w/teh rest?02:38
kikdadognope02:38
hybrido02:38
jim64654god this sucks, fuck linux if i can't even install modem.02:38
spanglesontoastdoes firestarter sit on top of my iptables?02:38
kikdadogsame prob, they run to the point of just about writing to the cd and they stop02:38
thingfishmodems can be tricky, since a lot of them are winmodems.02:38
Fanskapetjim64654 is your kernel compiled with PPP ?02:38
cg88anyone willing to help me out with a weird audio problem?02:38
Shuddertrixspanglesontoast: I'm pretty sure that firestarter uses iptables, if that's what you mean..02:38
kikdadogthey dont stop they freeze02:39
spanglesontoastyea02:39
thingfishFanskapet: he's a newbie, how does he know?02:39
jim64654umm, wouldn't know. i just freshly installed it from the cd i got today.02:39
spanglesontoastwhat's SSDP?02:39
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Fanskapetthingfish, ok.. probably not then :)02:39
thingfishhehe02:39
Fanskapetagh.. damn i miss BeOS :(02:39
thingfishaack02:39
Fanskapetthe simplicity.. the neat fast little GUI02:40
Fanskapetahh02:40
Fanskapetthose were the days02:40
thingfishFanskapet: you want #beos02:40
cg88Fankapet: What's the last version of BeOS you ran?02:40
Fanskapetcg88 Zeta02:40
kikdadogi always fiddleing with crap, i must have buggered something up02:40
Fanskapetthingfish i want what? :)02:41
kikdadogand seeing i cant burn a cd, i cant back my stuff up02:41
jim64654why isn't there the usr/src/<version> directory to make my driver?02:41
kikdadogits a vicious cycle02:41
J35U5anyone know how to play WMV's in xmms?02:42
thingfishI'll swear, there is nothing but crazy people in this channel.02:42
J35U5lol why do you say that?02:42
CowBrainwhere is the apt sources list again02:42
mr_XPHello Does Ubuntu have somekind of register to configure applications and os settings?02:42
Fanskapetnothing wrong with crazy people..02:42
jim64654all i want is my modem to work god damnit02:43
jim64654lol02:43
ShuddertrixJ35U5: Try using a video player instead of a music player.02:43
Fanskapetit's normal to be un-normal02:43
raDeoncrazy people are the BEST02:43
Davey|UbuntuI do miss YaST :/02:43
othernoobthingfish: after installing gnome, will kde still be the standard windowing system ?02:43
spanglesontoastare there such thing as debian girls ?02:43
hybridothernoob: yea02:43
J35U5Shuddertrix, There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/lateralus/Desktop/Nocturne/05%20Walk%20Away.wma", you might need to install the corresponding plugins02:43
spanglesontoastinstall gdm aswell othernoob02:44
othernoobhybrid: thanks02:44
J35U5oh crap its a wma02:44
thingfishothernoob: I don't know, but regardless, if gdm is installed along with gnome, you should be able to select it.02:44
othernoobgdm ?02:44
hybridothernoob: np02:44
ShuddertrixJ35U5: Oh, you mean wma. You need xmms-wma then.02:44
thingfishothernoob: even if it's still using kdm, you should then have gnome as a choice.02:44
J35U5Shuddertrix, thanks im gonna get it now.02:44
ShuddertrixYou can get it on the ubuntu guide addon cd, it even alienates the rpm for you02:44
mr_XPHello Does Ubuntu have somekind of register to configure applications and os settings?02:44
jim64654someone go to my post on the ubuntu forums, figure out my problem, then post the solution, i will give you 50000+ PPCDs02:45
spanglesontoastyea trust me install for now it will make life easier02:45
thingfishmr_XP: there is no windows style registry02:45
spanglesontoastit allows you to switch guis02:45
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raDeonwhere can i find pictures of debian girls02:45
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spanglesontoastdesktop guis02:45
apollo2011mr_XP Linux doesn't have an equivalent to the Windows registry02:45
hybridjim64654: PPCD?02:45
spanglesontoastI just asked that radeon02:45
jim64654yeah02:45
hybridwhats PPCD02:45
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othernoobspanglesontoast: i wasn't doubting that, i didnt know what gdm is ;) but thanks, i'll install it02:45
spanglesontoastwindows registry sucks.02:45
mr_XPThen how can I configure settings?02:45
thingfishmr_XP: IT'S A WHOLE NEW WORLD, BABY!02:45
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Shuddertrixspanglesontoast: If you mean women that use Debian and the likes, my wife enjoys using ubuntu on her notebook. ;)02:46
spanglesontoastuse your brain02:46
spanglesontoastthink mr xp02:46
jim64654i will give you 50000 maybe 60000 if you figure out my modem problem02:46
spanglesontoastlol shuddertrix02:46
othernoobShuddertrix: do you mind sharing ;)02:46
mr_XPok02:46
Shuddertrixothernoob: Yes, infact i do mind.02:46
spanglesontoastI was going to start being bitchy but I'll stay put02:46
ShuddertrixNo begging for pictures, either.02:46
hybrid50000 wat? wat is PPCD02:46
othernoob:/ lol02:46
mr_XPone more question02:46
FanskapetraDeon, do you live up to your name?? then solve this.. why.. do i get a black screen upon starting xorg with ATI's own glx driver? :D02:47
FanskapetraDeon you have 10 seconds counting from not :)02:47
Fanskapetnow even :)02:47
othernoobShuddertrix: id get in trouble with my gf anyway ;)02:47
spanglesontoasthas anyone got any attractive debian girl pics ?02:47
spanglesontoast:P02:47
thingfishhehe spanglesontoast02:47
hybridspanglesontoast: heh02:47
Fanskapetspanglesontoast there are no such thing as debiangirls02:47
Davey|Ubuntuwhat is the preferred path for non-standard binary installations?02:47
thingfishsure there are02:47
spanglesontoasttold you I was bitchy02:47
mr_XPDoes onyone know how to configure the plugin for firefox to play videos from msn.com?02:48
jim64654fine, no one gets my reward then02:48
CowBraingrrr whats the package tag for mplayer in apt02:48
Fanskapetprobably some odd strange geek invented in his sick brain02:48
Fanskapet:)02:48
Shuddertrixspanglesontoast: You'll have to figure out how to get into my /photos if you want any.02:48
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thingfishthey all weigh about 185 and have pimples.02:48
Davey|UbuntuCowBrain: apt-cache search mplayer02:48
spanglesontoastlol02:48
CowBrainhmmmm thanks davey ill try that im new to apt02:48
Fanskapetand no... it wasn't me :D02:48
Davey|UbuntuCowBrain: not a problem :)02:48
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jim64654anskapet> and no... it wasn't me :D02:49
jim64654<Davey02:49
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jim64654wtf?02:49
Fanskapethmm time to hit the pillow for the night soon.. getting late here in sweden..02:49
CowBrainDavey|Ubuntu, hmmm you have any idea what this is this is the output of that command02:49
spanglesontoastok is there some fit woman in clothes then?02:49
CowBrainmga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)02:49
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Davey|UbuntuCowBrain: thats not it02:49
CowBrainsuddenly i look even more confused :P02:50
jim64654im going back to windows 2kpro02:50
Fanskapettired after bitching with a new CPU-fan installation and FreeBSD a whole day.. *yawns*02:50
cafuegoPlease tell me breezy has not been fixed yet.02:50
Davey|UbuntuCowBrain: look for something with the same description as mplayer :)02:50
CowBraini didnt think that was it but thats what came out with the apt-cache02:50
raDeonwhere can i find the debian girls02:50
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Davey|UbuntuCowBrain: I guess its not in apt02:50
ShuddertrixraDeon: how about this, try #debian ;)02:50
Shuddertrixyou should say, "where can i find the ubuntu girls"02:51
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spanglesontoasttheres not really a mascot thou for ubuntu02:51
hybridubuntu pR0n02:51
spanglesontoastit's like this weird circle02:51
hybridlol02:51
Shuddertrixit's a circle of 3 people.02:51
hybridcircle o' friends02:52
CowBrainman i miss ports in FBSD but give me a couple days ill get the hang of this apt system02:52
cafuegoThe debian girl are out the back, in the shower, soaping eachother up.02:52
cafuegoCowBrain: It's pretty good, sort of like ports minus the wait whilst stuff compiles.02:52
spanglesontoastyea but it would be good if ubuntu had a mascot02:52
cafuegospanglesontoast: I offered mnyself, but the judges vomited...02:53
Shuddertrixdoes it need one?02:53
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Fanskapetmascot's sucks02:53
Fanskapetlooks so unproffersional02:53
geetergodis this ubuntu chat?02:53
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spanglesontoastyes geeter02:53
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Shuddertrixgeetergod: if this is still #ubuntu, then yes.02:54
Fanskapetit's way better that the team works some more on the kernel than inventing a stupied ugly mascot02:54
cafuegoFanskapet: Must be why toyota is doing so badly02:54
geetergodi just downloaded Americas Army, saved it on my desktop, how do i install it?02:54
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Fanskapetcafuego probably02:54
spanglesontoastoh dear.02:54
darko__is it possible to make a link with arguments? for example a link to 'mplayer -lavdopts 1'02:54
geetergodit opens it up in a word editor program when i double click it02:54
hybridAA for linux?02:54
hybridwill it work on PPC?02:55
geetergodya AA for linux02:55
Davey|Ubuntucafuego: perhaps you know the answer to my question, where is the preferred default path for 3rd party binary installs?02:55
Fanskapetgeetergod, if it's a binary.. just click it i guess. if it's a compressed file.. just unpack it :)02:55
cafuegohybrid: 99% certain it won't.02:55
cafuegoDavey|Ubuntu: /usr/local02:55
hybridcafuego: :'(02:55
hybridthere is NO ppclin games02:55
cafuegohybrid: commericla linux developers (especially for games) invariably do x86 (i386) only02:55
geetergodwhy does it wanna open it with Text Editor?02:55
Fanskapetgeetergod try running it from a terminal02:56
spanglesontoastI love how many new games are coming onto linux02:56
hybridcafuego: bigger market02:56
cafuegohybrid: there's supertux, tuxracer, frozen-bubble02:56
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othernoobspanglesontoast: such as ?02:56
darko__spanglesontoast: there are?02:56
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cafuegohybrid: Maybe their code is so bad it won't compile on non-x8602:56
spanglesontoasterm02:56
geetergodi just had my bro put ubuntu on my puter, i couldnt take windows anymore02:56
Fanskapet./american-army-crappy-game-blahablaha02:56
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spanglesontoastthat one02:56
spanglesontoastenemy territory02:56
nekohayosomeone, is there a way to WRITE ntfs on the ubuntu live cd?02:56
hybridcafuego: heh I want AA tho02:56
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hybridlol02:56
Fanskapethmm ntfs rw is not a good choice02:57
cafuegohybrid: A one-way ticket to Iraq shouldn't be too expensive ;-)02:57
geetergodwhat do i type in the terminal?02:57
hybridcafuego: yea02:57
darko__nekohayo: try captive-ntfs, but since you don't know how to seacrh google i doubt you get captive working :P02:57
Fanskapetthe ntfs write support screwed up my last w2k3 installation02:57
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cafuegohybrid: Seriously though, for linux gaming you'll need an x86 box.02:57
darko__there's also a commercial solution...02:57
=== spanglesontoast is glad that army isn't so pushy in the uk
nekohayoI wanted to ask here for the U LIVECD, not for general linux applications since I didn't know which one was in use, and I have no time02:58
nekohayoso thanks02:58
hybridcafuego: ok i wont have games02:58
cafuegospoonman2: That's coz they have intelligence02:58
spanglesontoastwhat does port 8008 do?02:58
spoonman2cafuego, :-/02:58
geetergodFanskepit u here?02:58
hybridspanglesontoast: boob port?02:58
Shuddertrixgeetergod: 'sh ./armyops230-linux.run' should work, without the '02:58
Fanskapetyes02:58
cafuegohybrid: Well, there's the prepackaged ones...02:58
geetergodthanks02:59
Fanskapetif you mean Fanskapet that is02:59
cafuegohybrid: ... but not the new commericla ones.02:59
Davey|Ubuntuhow do I mount an NTFS filesystem?02:59
spanglesontoast:(02:59
darko__Fanskapet uses beos?02:59
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hybridcafuego: yea i have played gnu tetris for ever02:59
spanglesontoastwell it's coming from my router02:59
cafuegohybrid: <heh> There's better ones :-)02:59
spoonman2Davey|Ubuntu, man mount02:59
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hybridcafuego: XFCE so kde games n gnome02:59
cafuegohybrid: frozen-bubble is nice. I prefer gnocatan myself (but that's based on a boardgame)02:59
Davey|Ubuntuspoonman2: well, I did mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/C but it no workie :/02:59
Fanskapetdarko__, not at the moment since my only workstation "Ferrari 3200 laptop" doesn't work well toghether with BeOS/Zeta.02:59
hybridi love tetris03:00
geetergodsays no such file or directory03:00
darko__hehe :) visste jeg hadde sett deg anng beos :)03:00
Davey|Ubuntuah, the problem is I'm not root :/03:00
Shuddertrixgeetergod: you are in the directory it downloaded to, right?03:00
Shuddertrixand it downloaded as armyops230-linux.bin?03:00
darko__Fanskapet: petter kanskje?03:00
FanskapetDavey|Ubuntu, should work with just mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/blah, ubuntu should know the filesystem type as default.03:01
cafuegohybrid: 'apt-cache search game' should list a few hundred for you.03:01
hybridlol03:01
Fanskapetdarko__, mjao.. petter?03:01
geneo93beos was great in its day03:01
spoonman2Davey|Ubuntu, try to find out what /dev/C is? it could be that C is not the name of the device, the devicename would be /dev/hda[1 or 2 or...]  or something similar.03:01
nekohayoI hate SP2 -_-03:01
cafuegohybrid: 'bzflag' is a little bit like a 3d shooter, and is networked.03:01
geetergodi just opened up the terminal03:01
hybridlol03:01
geetergodi saved it to the desktop03:01
hybridcafuego: bzflag is nice03:01
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spanglesontoastwhy is my browser so slow at loading pages?03:02
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darko__Fanskapet: du som lagde en del beos sider og snn :) det hukser jeg, var ogs noe med opera?03:02
geneo93freecraft is nice also03:02
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: did you clear your cache?03:02
dabaSlonand cookies.03:02
darko__geneo93: haiku is on it's way though :P03:02
cafuegospoonman2: Just felt like it03:02
Shuddertrixgeetergod: cd Desktop03:03
Fanskapetdarko__: mjo hll i BeGaming tillsammans med BeEmulated snubben en svng.. hmm opera?03:03
spanglesontoastthis is more or less a brand new install03:03
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geetergodi downloaded it from the AA site on the desktop03:03
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dabaSlonspanglesontoast: yeah, I was here when you installed it, it depends on the amount of web pages you visit, not the time.03:03
cafuegofried too03:03
darko__Fanskapet: ah03:03
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: tahts only the first thing you can try, tho.03:03
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: do that, and tell me if it is faster.03:04
geneo93darko__:  i dont see that for a few more years03:04
geetergodsorry i suck at this, first day with it03:04
geneo93and then it will be at R5 level03:04
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spanglesontoastnope03:04
spanglesontoastit isn't03:05
spanglesontoastalthought it started when I install firestarter03:05
dabaSlonok, thats a legit reason too. fireewalls slow down your computer.03:05
dabaSlontry disabling it.03:05
darko__geneo93: yeah... i need my wine and games :)03:05
ced_I'm just curious, but how are shipit cds free? Wouldn't it cost substantially more to ship a cd with cdart and a case with coverart then a blank cdr?03:05
darko__that's wine as in linux wine03:05
ced_err not to ship, but to make03:05
Davey|Ubuntuwtf...03:05
dabaSlonI would  just like to point out that a game called Americas Army is just fooling young americans into thinking it is fun and games in the army...03:06
Davey|UbuntuMusic Player (Rythmbox) says it can't play MP3 files :/03:06
spanglesontoastI got rid of it03:06
geetergodits fun tho :)03:06
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: good, so, you cleared out the cache?03:06
spanglesontoastI don't care I'm not american lol03:06
geetergodim old enough to know better hah03:06
dabaSlonand copokies?03:06
spanglesontoastyea03:06
Fanskapetagh my drink-glass is empty now :/ does that mean that it's the end of the night? :/03:06
spanglesontoastall03:06
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darko__haha03:07
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: great, please tell me if you know your ISPs home page, and if you do, please type it in.03:07
LinuxJonesdabaSlon, that's why they developed it :)03:07
Fanskapetor does it mean that I need to get a refill? :D03:07
spanglesontoastwhy would you need to know that?03:07
dabaSlonso you can ping their site, to see if there is congestion.03:07
dabaSlon:)03:07
hybridFanskapet: refill always03:07
dabaSlonI work for COmcasgt tech soupport, I get 5 ppl with slow speed every day:)03:07
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hybriddabaSlon: heh] 03:08
geetergodcan u guys help me install it tho? my first day on ubuntu03:08
Fanskapethybrid ahh oke03:08
spanglesontoast1919 ms03:08
thingfishFanskapet: I haven't heard "last call" yet.03:08
Fanskapetokey even...03:08
spanglesontoastjeez something is odd on here03:08
dabaSlonI would if I knew how, well, maybe not, but in any case I dont:)03:08
geneo93darko__:  i have dano/exp and R5 on this box03:08
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LinuxJonesgeetergod, we can help sure :)03:08
dabaSlonok, yes, that is too high.03:08
spanglesontoastfluxing to 29 ms03:08
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Shuddertrixgeetergod: run the sh armyops230-linux.run again03:08
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spanglesontoastthen going back up to 2000s03:08
Fanskapetgeneo93, lucky bastad!03:08
Shuddertrixbut, after doing a cd Desktop03:08
dabaSlonPlease traceroute to there now.03:08
geetergodwhere do i go to run it, in Terminal correct?03:09
Shuddertrixyes03:09
spanglesontoastwhere?03:09
dabaSlonand paste the rwesult onto pastebin.com03:09
Fanskapetgeneo93, BeOS won't boot with my monitor on the lappie... im forced to connect an external monitor to get it to work03:09
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spanglesontoastwhat's the command for traceroute?03:09
mpmanyone have experience configuring multiple keyboard layouts with xkb directly (without gnome gui too) that can help me?  I can't seem to get it working03:09
dabaSlonI dont know:)03:09
dabaSlonLet me find out.03:09
LinuxJonesgeetergod, you put the cd in your drive and re-boot...press and hold the c button while it boots03:09
Davey|Ubuntugrrrr03:09
thingfishFanskapet: you want #deadend03:09
Davey|UbuntuI can't get MP3s to play :/03:09
hybridDavey|Ubuntu: mplayer?03:10
hybridthingfish: heh03:10
thingfish;)03:10
spanglesontoasteither way is there a way to restore iptables03:10
geetergodtheres no CD, i downloaded it03:10
JStrikeDavey|Ubuntu : And you have the gstreamer0.8-maad plugin?03:10
spanglesontoastto it's defaults/03:10
spanglesontoast?03:10
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geetergodi donloaded it from the AA site03:10
LinuxJonesgeetergod, your installing on a seperate computer jsut for Linux or are you dual-booting with windows ?03:10
dabaSlonDavey|Ubuntu: did you read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ?03:10
Davey|UbuntuJStrike: for what exactly? :)03:10
geneo93hmmm thats not nice i thought nvidia dad flat screens covered03:10
dabaSlonthats the one for mop3s.03:10
geetergodyah, i just got linux, no windows03:10
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: oh, it was you with iptables?03:11
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geetergodbut i dont have the CD for AA, just downloaded it03:11
JStrikeDavey|Ubuntu : You need the gstreamer0.8-mad plugin to play mp3's03:11
dabaSlonman iptables, I guess.03:11
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spanglesontoasthuh firestarter and shorewall03:11
LinuxJonesgeetergod, AA ?03:11
spanglesontoastI got rid of them03:11
dabaSlonok, get rid of the iptables, as well.03:11
geetergodAmericasArmy03:11
spanglesontoastcos I thought they had done something weird03:11
LinuxJonesgeetergod, ohh03:11
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dabaSloniptables did something weird more likely, cause you are new, and it is an expert tool/03:11
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geetergodsorry if i type slow, i got a cast on, broke my elbow03:11
spanglesontoastif I remove and reinstall the iptables03:12
spanglesontoastwill my problem be ok?03:12
geneo93Fanskapet:  what video card you have03:12
LinuxJonesgeetergod, your installing Ubuntu right or AA ?03:12
dabaSlonit is possible, I doubt it tho. Cause...you need to specify that you want the config files purged, let me find the command.03:12
geetergodim trying to install AA03:12
geetergodim on Ubuntu now03:12
dabaSlonand, I cant tell the future:)03:12
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thingfishyikes how does one break one's elbow?03:12
CowBrainwierd no gcc by default on ubuntu installs03:12
LinuxJonesgeetergod, it's just a file that ends in .sh or .bin right ?03:12
wulfy814does anyone know how to get randr support (rotate my lcd portrait?)03:13
geetergod.run03:13
spanglesontoastok03:13
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wulfy814it's always greyed out in all linux distros for me03:13
LinuxJonesCowBrain, sudo apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential03:13
LinuxJonesgeetergod, perfect03:13
geetergodok03:13
dabaSlondpkg --purge iptables , does anyone think that is the right command to remove a program and its config files?03:14
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LinuxJonesgeetergod, do you know where you downloaded the AA installer file ?03:14
CowBrainoh LinuxJones i got gcc installed but i just found it wierd they dont have that install when doing base installation03:14
thingfishthat would about do it, dabaSlon.03:14
geetergodon the desktop03:14
dabaSlonok, do that, spanglesontoast, then see your speed, then reinstall again, if you want it.03:14
dabaSlonthanks^03:15
thingfishalthough I would be more tempted to use synaptic or apt-get to remove it.03:15
spanglesontoastdone it03:15
spanglesontoastworks03:15
spanglesontoast:D03:15
dabaSlonfaster?03:15
spanglesontoastya03:15
thingfishsafer03:15
LinuxJonesCowBrain, one of the goals of Ubuntu is that nobody will have to compile anything :)03:15
geneo93i thought you could purge with apt03:15
spanglesontoasthow can I be sure that iptables is running?03:15
mpmAnyone know a way to invoke the gnome-keyboard-layout-daemon/tool from another WM (ie xfce)??03:15
dabaSlonyeah, I thought it would be iptables, it is an expert tool, I never mess around with firewalls, and port forwarding, and what not, Ill have to learn it one day...03:15
CowBrainahhh gotcha but mplayer isnt on apt list and i cant find a .deb for it sigh03:15
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jhavewhere can i find convert ?03:16
spanglesontoastgot any funky apps I can try out03:16
spanglesontoast?03:16
geetergodwhen i try opening it it opens in gedit03:16
JStrikeCowBrain : Why do you need mplayer?03:16
geneo93CowBrain:  enable universe03:16
jhavewhere can i find convert ?03:16
geetergodand just kinda freezes gedit03:16
CowBraini did enable universe03:16
jhavewhere can i find convert ?03:16
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Shuddertrixgeetergod: because it isn't a text file03:16
dabaSlona command to print out all processes taht are running | grep 'iptables'03:16
dabaSlon:)03:16
CowBrainJStrike, because Mplayer is the ultimate video player available for nix platforms today03:17
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: are you asking me if I have funky apps?03:17
geetergodyah i know thats why i wanna find out how to open it in the right spot03:17
JStrikeNah03:17
spanglesontoastyea03:17
LinuxJonesgeetergod, you need to cd to the directory holding the file and type sh whateverAAsfilename.run is from within gnome-terminal03:17
spanglesontoasti get bored lol03:17
hybridhow do i remove a directory03:17
dabaSlonIm more into rap...:-p03:17
dabaSlonjj03:17
geneo93cow look at restricted formats03:17
dabaSlonk, well, do you have a picture viewer?03:17
CowBrainJStrike, what have you found that is better maybe you can convert me :)03:17
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mpmhybrid rmdir if it's empty rm -r if it's not03:17
nickrudheh, sources.list is now http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles03:17
spanglesontoastme?03:17
dabaSlonnice:)03:17
raDeonWHERE DO I FIND HOT DEBIAN WOMEN03:17
dabaSlonyeah, sorry03:17
nickrudand it's been fun03:17
dabaSlonhehe, radeon.03:18
JStrikeCowBrain : Well, I like gstreamer, but if not use totem-xine03:18
spanglesontoastdon't think I do have it installed03:18
raDeondabaSlon are you a hot debian woman03:18
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dabaSlonno, sorry.03:18
spanglesontoastlol03:18
Davey|Ubuntuso, I'm still trying to find the preferred third part software installation path - any suggestion03:18
raDeonare you an ugly debian woman03:18
raDeoni'm getting desperate03:18
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: there is a program called gqview, it is good for pictures/03:18
JStrikeraDeon : Dude, you are irritating03:18
geetergodthat like the Yoper CD?03:18
raDeonJStrike ok.03:18
LinuxJonesraDeon, they don't exist :)03:18
hybridmpm: ty03:18
dabaSlonJStrike: why are you always trolling?03:18
CowBrainannoying is an understatment JStrike03:18
spanglesontoastslideshows?03:19
dabaSlonso what if he said that?03:19
raDeonyou're a troll get out from my bridge03:19
othernoobwhat do i need to download to get libtermcap.so.2 ?03:19
CowBrainerr irritating i mean03:19
mpmthis look familiar anyone?   Option  "XkbLayout" "us,es"03:19
JStrikedabaSlon : Where have I been trolling?03:19
dabaSlonI dont kno, you always have an attitude, it seems.03:19
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raDeonOH YEAH WELL I HOPE YOU GET BOVINE SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPATHY03:19
CowBrainhmmm03:20
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: well, preview, and taht, prolly has a sliedshow, not sure.03:20
JStrikedabaSlon : And where have I shown attitude?03:20
LinuxJonesraDeon, please stop using caps ;)03:20
dabaSlonradeon, please dont use caps like that, one of the ops will ban you.03:20
Q_Continuum*sigh* I dont' want to have to figure out how to get this processor running at max speed, but I so want 2.4GHz not 1.6GHz...03:20
spanglesontoastya has a slidshow03:20
dabaSlonJStrike: ok, sorry, just forget it, its not important.03:20
MadpilotdabaSlon: trouble is there aren't any mods around right now. This clown as been here for a couple hours already...03:21
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: I use gtk-gnutella for p2p...03:21
Q_Continuumthe RAM is automatically upped when I increase the CPU clock...and I can't change the ratio >.<03:21
dabaSlonreally?03:21
dabaSlonhaha03:21
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dabaSlonsorry:(03:21
raDeonLinuxJones that's a reasonable request.03:21
HackmoHey all, anyone know how I can turn on surround sound support?03:21
LinuxJonesraDeon, TYVM03:21
HackmoI have cambridge soundworks speakers03:21
spanglesontoastlimewire my fav03:21
dabaSlonspanglesontoast: well, this one is for a fact better. I mean, I find. I used limewire, but it does not even have a search more function.03:22
raDeonno problems03:22
LinuxJones;)03:22
raDeoni like this ubuntu crew very polite03:22
dabaSlonit just gives you as many results it wants, no regards of how many you want.03:22
spanglesontoastah okies03:22
dabaSlonThis one is real GNU, I think.03:22
spanglesontoasteventally trying to build a user friendly version of freshmeat03:22
dabaSlonthen, glabels for making cd labels, and any  labels you can imagine, I think.03:23
geneo93CowBrain:  look here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:23
spanglesontoastno printer here03:23
spanglesontoasthehe03:23
dabaSlonthanks, raDeonwe want to like you too:)03:23
geneo93business cards also03:23
abarbacciahey all - how do i setup the samba config file so I have a username and password to log into my samba shares (i can see them but can't log in to access them on anything but localhost)03:23
dabaSlonwell, I never used it neither, jsut ahve it cause some ppl I find know lots on this channel, recommended it.03:24
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giga1hello03:24
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spanglesontoastaho k03:24
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raDeonsee i ordered the ubuntu cds and im going to give it a go so i'm test driving the irc channel03:25
Hackmocan anyone help me with my webcam problem?03:25
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HackmoIt is picked up on boot up but wont work03:25
dabaSlonthats it, I have a dj app, and maybe some programming IDEs, and standard ubuntu stuff, I use epiphany for browsing tho, I like its appearance bettetr, and it is built on mozilla-ff, in fact wont install without ff.03:25
dabaSlonhackmo, usually webcams are not working i linux.03:25
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dabaSlontry googleing to find if your model is supported.03:25
dabaSlondone?03:25
giga1does anyone know if 802.11b wi-fi stuff works?03:25
pepsiuhm03:25
HackmodabaSlon: i've googled but not found anything03:25
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dabaSlongiga1: depends on the card, i think.03:25
pepsihey, can i use breezy yet? ;)03:26
giga1yea i was kinda worried about that.... i have a cheapo trendware wi-fi card...03:26
dabaSlonHackmo: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras is a list...:)03:26
cafuegopepsi: not if you like X03:26
dabaSlonnot complete, tho.03:26
geetergodSo i downloaded Americas Army onto the desktop now i dont know how to install it03:26
geneo93no03:26
pepsicafuego, i heard there was a fix for the X-not-starting problem03:26
dabaSlongiga1: look into ndiswrapper, it will tell you if yours works in linux.03:26
dabaSloncafuego: lol03:27
dabaSlonIf you like x...:)03:27
geneo93look at the readme file03:27
cafuegopepsi: Yeah, downgrade X to the hoary version. Only took 2 hours to fix the horribly broken depends and conflicts.03:27
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cafuegogiga1: What card do you have?03:27
dabaSlonI always save the chinese symbols like that.03:27
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cafuegooh, trendware03:27
dabaSlongeetergod: is there a readme file?03:28
geetergodno03:28
geetergodi dont believe so03:28
dabaSlonwhat is there, and where did you download it from?03:28
cafuegogiga1: Do you have a model number?03:28
ShuddertrixOdd.03:28
giga1yea...03:28
giga1tew-229ub03:28
cafuegogeetergod: sh ./downloaded_file.bin normally.03:28
LinuxJonesgeetergod, first hit alt+F2 and type gnome-terminal (press enter) then type cd Desktop then sudo sh theAAfile.run (enter your user account password)03:28
Shuddertrixbash: ./armyops230-linux.run: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Text file busy03:28
Shuddertrixwait, there it gos03:29
Shuddertrixgoes03:29
dabaSlonchmod +x...03:29
dabaSlon?03:29
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cafuegogiga1: "Works with linux with the AT76C503A/5/5A drivers, but it was a bitch to get working."03:29
HackmodabaSlon: my camera is supported and it supposed to work on bootup03:29
glickhot damn my desktop rocks!03:30
Shuddertrixgeetergod: open terminal, chmod +x Desktop/armyops230-linux.run && sh Desktop/armyops230-linux.run03:30
dabaSlonHackmo: nice...well, then, I dunno:)03:30
HackmodabaSlon: ok then thanks for your help03:30
dabaSlonno need for sudo, raelly.03:30
dabaSlonwelcome:)03:30
giga1ok cool, thanks a bunch for the info, i'll give it a whirl and see if i can make some magic happen03:30
geetergodok i did cd Desktop03:30
dabaSlonscroll up:)03:30
geetergodsudo sh, then i typed my password...03:30
dabaSlongood.03:31
geetergodthen it came up with sh-3.00#03:31
cafuegogiga1: If you google for "Linux tew-229ub" you'll find a whole heap of stuff.03:31
dabaSlon:)03:31
Shuddertrixgeetergod: no, sudo sh ./armyops230-linux.run03:31
Shuddertrixdon't run sh, use sh03:31
dabaSlonwhere is that file from?03:31
geetergodk03:31
ShuddertrixdabaSlon: it's the America's Army file03:32
dabaSlonI just wanna see it.03:32
dabaSlonmaybe it is a script, or whatever, I kinda wanna see it.03:32
giga1coolness03:32
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ShuddertrixI have it running now, it is an installer.03:32
dabaSlonah, cool, then you are good.03:32
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dabaSlonim out, I am sick, I have to rest...I got a cold at the end of May:-/03:33
Shuddertrixshell script, about 745mb (complete installer) ;)03:33
dabaSlonha:)03:33
ShuddertrixBeen meaning to install it anyways.03:33
geetergodVerifying archive integrity...03:33
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kestasfor some reason mounting things with smbfs doesnt work in /etc/fstab, but it does work doing it manually03:33
ShuddertrixI want to know why my GTK fonts are all large, however03:33
kestasheres the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/29151703:33
giga1ok thanks everybody for your help!03:33
Shuddertrixgeetergod: congrats, you have it working.03:33
kestascan someone explain how the hell that is possible?03:33
geetergodumm now what?03:33
geetergodsweet03:34
geetergoduncompressing it03:34
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dabaSlonkestas: should include the fstab:)03:34
raDeonwhat's the difference between the ubuntu value tshirt and the regular one03:34
dabaSlonhahahaha03:34
ShuddertrixWait for it to open the license agreement screen.03:34
dabaSlonlol03:34
kestasdabaSlon: I did http://pastebin.com/29151703:34
ShuddertrixThen, it's fairly simpy to install03:34
dabaSlonah:)03:34
dabaSlonI suck.03:34
ShuddertrixAnyone know why Ubuntu has a weird GTK1 font size and font by default?03:35
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HackmoIf I plug in my USB webcam after the computer has booted up will it automatically work or will I need to mount it?03:35
Dr_MelectausIs the torrent tracker still down ??03:35
dabaSlon /topic03:35
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kestas/mnt/PubStore mounts just fine, why would one smbfs server mount fine, and another not??03:36
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Dr_Melectausjesus h christ when will the tracker be back up03:36
dabaSlon:-/03:36
kestastheyre both FreeBSD with samba3, and the same config03:36
pepsiwhat _was_ jesus's middle name?03:36
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pepsihenry?03:36
kestash is for holy03:36
pepsihrm03:37
kestas(its not his real middle name)03:37
dabaSlon??03:37
spinifexI don't think peoeple had middle or last names at that time.  It was <firstname> of <region>03:37
dabaSlonah.03:37
dabaSlonbye03:37
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Dr_Melectauspepsi, : Harold i believe :P03:37
pepsiheh03:37
fishiehank03:37
kestasspinifex: youve been watching the passion :P03:37
spinifexuh, I hated that movie03:38
spinifexand I'm not religous03:38
kestasyeah he really came across as a cult leader in it03:38
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Dr_Melectauspepsi: Are you the same pepsithat used to be part of zerolimit ?03:38
pepsiwtf is zerolimit?03:38
kestasbut lets start a flame war later; can someone see whats up with this: http://pastebin.com/291517 ?03:38
Dr_Melectausirc.zerolimit.net03:38
pepsino sir03:38
Dr_Melectausnever mind pepsi, by that comment i doubt its you :)03:39
fishiepepsi were you an aoler?03:39
spinifexbut surnames are quite a bit more recent than Jesus I believe.  <firstname> <fathersname>son or <firstname> <trade> are other common formats03:39
pepsiyears and years ago, yeah03:39
fishieyou made some punter or something03:39
pepsilol, i made a OneClick "hell" palette03:39
spinifexwha?03:40
pepsiheh03:40
pepsijust a bunch of macros to do shit like be annoying or mass mail all your warez03:40
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spinifexwhat, like the B1FF filter?03:41
pepsi?03:41
spinifexwww.isketch.net had a really annoying one.  You just type a command before your message, and it translates it into really annoying warez d00d speak03:41
Shuddertrixarmyops works fine ;)03:42
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Brad_cyo03:42
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kestascan any geniuses/geniei tell me why this [ http://pastebin.com/291517 ]  happens?03:43
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Dr_MelectausSo when the hell is the tracker going to be back up then??03:44
Brad_cguys i have a major prob03:44
kestasit works on the command line, but not in fstab?03:44
geetergodok its been installing 4ever03:44
Dr_Melectausits been down for about a week now03:44
kestasit works in fstab for one server, but not for another server?03:44
Brad_ci installed ubuntu but when i go into Synaptec Package Manager i see no kde desktop environment03:44
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Brad_cany ideas?03:45
Brad_ci installed ubuntu but when i go into Synaptec Package Manager i see no kde desktop environment03:45
pepsiuhm03:45
pepsiinstall the kubuntu package03:45
Brad_cill lool03:46
Brad_clook*03:46
pepsiwtf03:46
geneo93Brad_c:  is that warty or hoary03:46
Brad_chuh03:46
Brad_c?03:46
pepsiyour date03:46
pepsiis she warty or hoary?03:46
pepsior grumpy?03:46
geneo93uname -r03:46
kestasso can anyone here answer questions which dont get asked thousands of times per day?03:46
pepsino03:47
geneo93sleezy03:47
pepsiyes! that should be next03:47
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geetergodwho helped me to install Americas Army?03:47
geneo93kestas:  your samba mounts failed03:48
raDeonthat was me03:48
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kestasgeneo93: okay thanks for the response, but I can see that from the "SMB connection failed" message, I want to know why03:48
kestasgeneo93: in particular why it works when I type mount -t smbfs blablabla instead of mount /mnt/storage/03:48
kestasgeneo93: how can there be a difference? they should be exactly the same thing03:49
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Brad_cdoes kde install off the internet?03:50
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Brad_cdoes kde install off the internet?03:50
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kestaswhy doesnt sound work, is there a firewall, how do I get xmms, why doesnt mplayer play .wmvs, how do I get kde, which wm is the best?03:51
abarbacciakestas, the problem then is in your fstab file, because it gets the info from fstab when you type mount /mnt/storage03:51
kestasthere have I got your attention?03:51
kestasSMB connection failed03:51
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Brad_cdoes kde install off the internet?03:51
Brad_cdoes kde install off the internet?03:51
Brad_cdoes kde install off the internet?03:51
Brad_cdoes kde install off the internet?03:51
geneo93sorry kestas was watching tv03:51
Brad_cdoes kde install off the internet?03:51
kestasabarbaccia: but theyre the same damn thing, they use the same options, the same everything03:51
abarbacciaBrad_c, STOP or LEAVE03:51
Brad_canswer me03:51
abarbacciayes03:51
natexBrad_c, no03:51
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ahammondBrad_c: two things you need to know03:51
abarbaccianatex, it does too - from apt-get03:51
Brad_cdoes it or not?03:51
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geneo93Brad_c:  yes03:51
ahammondBrad_c: 1) nobody here is obliged in any way to help you03:52
natexabarbaccia, I wasn't answering his pestering question03:52
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abarbacciaoh03:52
Brad_cisnt this tech support?03:52
abarbacciasorry03:52
geetergodive been installing Americas Army for like 10minutes now....03:52
natexabarbaccia, s'ok03:52
LinuxJonesBrad_c, of course it does don't be rude !!03:52
geetergodits Installing Base Install03:52
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geetergodis this normal?03:52
ShuddertrixBrad_c: it's community support.03:52
ahammondBrad_c: 2) so, if you want help, you need to ask politely and respect other people03:52
xozkestas: possible that storage is owned by root? ls -ld /mnt/storage03:52
kestasits the FAQ channel ffs03:52
geneo93its not on the cd (hint)03:52
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Brad_cfunny if i spam people help03:52
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Brad_clol03:52
abarbacciaBrad_c, we are not paid, and please use google first for obvious questions03:52
Brad_clol03:53
Brad_cahahaha03:53
pepsidont be an ass, dude03:53
kestasxoz: drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 48 2005-05-16 04:23 /mnt/storage/03:53
Brad_cwhen i spam i get answers03:53
ShuddertrixBrad_c: You annoy us with the spam, we had to make you stop.03:53
kestasxoz: it is owned by root, is that a prob?03:53
natextoo late he alreadu is03:53
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LinuxJonesBrad_c, if you spam you will get a ban ... is that funny to you ?03:53
ShuddertrixDo it again, and I think you might just get banned03:53
abarbacciawe need a mod in here to kick him off03:53
xozkestas: that's it. change is to the user03:53
pepsii think its funny!03:53
ahammondBrad_c: consider who you're annoying and then recall that your IP is visible.03:53
Brad_cwhen i ask politely i get NO answers03:53
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xoz*it*03:53
Brad_cwell thanks anyway03:53
Brad_ctake it easy03:53
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pepsibye, loser03:53
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abarbacciaBrad_c, patience pays off - and google has 95% of the answers - a lot faster than we do03:53
ahammondBrad_c: it's possible that nobody knows the answer to your question03:53
natexhehe pepsi03:54
kestasxoz: Ill try it, but isnt that what uid=1000 is for? and why would it work using 'mount' if that was a problem?03:54
raDeonthat guy's a moron03:54
geneo93maybe thats because we are helpig someone else03:54
ahammondpepsi: that was a little quick03:54
pepsi:(03:54
raDeonhow dare he show disrespect03:54
novaflarebrad_c ive asked questions here and waited for 2 hours to get a answer and i dont complain. Just look at the number of users in here03:54
xozkestas: because you used sudo03:54
abarbacciapepsi did you boot him?03:54
geetergodShuddertrix, u here?03:54
ahammondpepsi: he came in kinda stupid but maybe woulda learned03:54
Shuddertrixgeetergod: what do you need?03:54
pepsieh? no, he said he was leaving03:54
ShuddertrixI've installed it fine..03:54
natexpepsi booted him with the force03:54
pepsiwtf03:54
abarbaccialol03:54
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kestasxoz: well its the exact same problem Im afraid03:54
abarbacciapepsi - why are you so mean, he was just confused03:54
kestasxoz: looks like it didnt make a difference03:55
abarbacciaand ignorant03:55
geetergodits STILL installing, its installing Base install, should it be taking this long?03:55
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geetergodoops its done03:55
xozkestas: while just reading using fstab means mount is run by the user which has no access to the dir03:55
abarbaccialol03:55
Shuddertrixgeetergod: you might not have DMA on03:55
geetergodim so impatient sorry03:55
pepsiim an ass, i guess03:55
kestasxoz: not to mention that the other share, which is on another server //10.10.1.20/Data /mnt/PubStore works fine with fstab, and its owned by root03:55
natexpepsi, don't be so hardon yourself03:55
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Shuddertrixgeetergod: sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda03:55
geetergodok now where do i go to play it?03:55
novaflarewhy you say that pespsi?03:55
ahammondpepsi: yeah, we were already plenty hard on you. :)03:55
LinuxJonesgeetergod, it's large file it takes a while to decompress ;)03:56
kestasxoz: but I run it with sudo, of course I have access Im running as root03:56
Shuddertrixgeetergod: either in your gnome menus or by typing armyops03:56
xozkestas: have you changed it?03:56
Shuddertrixin the console03:56
kestasxoz: yes03:56
pepsiyou guys are hard on me :P03:56
Shuddertrixthen, it should work fine.03:56
geetergodarmy ops in the gnome terminal?03:56
pepsii want to install breezy and i get yelled at and such ;D03:56
Shuddertrixyes03:56
Shuddertrixas one word03:56
Shuddertrixarmyops03:56
novaflarelol03:56
kestasxoz: but still no difference, why would it say "Access Denied" if it was a problem with the mount point ffs?03:56
geetergodi think i got it03:56
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geetergodthanks again03:56
Shuddertrixit will show the splash screen for AA and it should start running soon03:56
pepsialthough after trying multiple times to install it, i think ill wait till the big "PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY" is gone from the topic03:56
LinuxJonespepsi, /topic :D03:57
Shuddertrixno problem.03:57
novaflareheh had somethign damn funny happen today under cedega03:57
geneo93pepsi:  just dont ask for help03:57
novaflarei got a bsod error lol03:57
xozkestas: access denied in my interpretation is that you don't have access to the target dir03:57
Shuddertrixnovaflare: hmm, isn't that kind of impossible?03:57
novaflarewent to run some app and it crashed with a blue screen error message i damn near fell off my chair03:57
novaflarenope03:57
pepsigeneo93, i dont intend to really.. i just wanted to see if it would work or not, but i dont want to bother with it until its less broken03:57
novaflarewas a windows app running under cedega03:57
Shuddertrixodd03:57
novaflareobviusly it didnt give me a full on bsod03:58
kestasxoz: no the error comes from smbmount03:58
novaflarebut sure gave me all the wonderfull error codes heheh03:58
pepsithe topic makes installing breezy ever more tempting, though03:58
Shuddertrixusually, if that happens, wine/cedega/cxoffice will crash.03:58
natexhow does ubuntu configure X during fresh install? (command)03:58
kestasxoz: its as if the password is wrong, but the same username and password works fine if I mount it using 'mount -t smbfs -o blablabla'03:58
novaflarewell i ran with cedega appname.exe03:58
dabaSlonpepsi not to all.03:58
LinuxJonespepsi, it's very broken :)03:58
novaflareso it did crash out back to terminal window03:58
geetergodnow it couldnt set video mode: Couldnt find matching GLX visual03:59
dabaSlonpepsi I am fine waiting, as long as my comp works...03:59
novaflareall i could think of is damn im glad i wasnt in windows heh03:59
Shuddertrixgeetergod: Do you have your FGLRX/NVIDIA drivers installed?03:59
Shuddertrix(depending on what video card you have)03:59
geetergodprolly not03:59
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Shuddertrixwhat video card do you have?03:59
geetergodis that something easy to do?03:59
xozkestas: possible also that you have to enable encryption in the smb.conf because pain text passed may not work. this is one bug in the latest tiger of OS X.03:59
xoz*plain*03:59
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Shuddertrixif it's a Radeon, i don't know, if it is an Nvidia card, it's newbie-proof.04:00
xavhi... i'm back... switched from debian to ubuntu today...04:00
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geetergodim gettin better so i can do it quicker maybe :)04:00
xozs/passed/password04:00
xavbut i can't get mplayer working from marillat repository04:00
xavlibc6 need to be upgraded it seems04:00
natexdoes anyone know? how does ubuntu configure X during fresh install? (command)04:00
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Strifewhy does grip complain that I have an invalid encoder executable (lame) when I indeed have lame installed?04:00
dabaSlonxav there is one in our repos...04:00
hondjexav: add multiverse to your regular ubuntu repos and try again04:00
kestasxoz: tell me this: why would it work doing it with mount -t smbfs -o blablabla, but not when I mount it with the same options specified in /etc/fstab?? how could plain text passwords possibly be a problem from /etc/fstab but not doing it directly??04:01
xavdabaSlon: where ?04:01
dabaSlon^^04:01
geetergodi have a GeForce III vid card04:01
hondjexav: multiverse04:01
xozkestas: so it must be with the fstab then. i think you have to check access ownership of the dir...04:01
kestasStrife: sorry your question wont get answered as its not in the ubuntu FAQ, we only answer FAQ questions here04:01
Shuddertrixgeetergod: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings04:01
geetergodok04:02
kestasxoz: its NOT ownership of the dir04:02
natexI changed my xorg.conf and now I boot straight to command line :(04:02
Strifekestas: LIES!04:02
Strifeheh04:02
Shuddertrixwhen that's done, tell me04:02
xavi do have multiverse in my repos04:02
geetergodtype that in terminal?04:02
Shuddertrixdon't want to have to repeat myself if i type it now04:02
Shuddertrixyeah04:02
Strifekestas: plenty of non-FAQ questions get answered in here... hell, I've answered a number myself04:02
dabaSlonxav remove marillat:)04:02
kestasStrife: well they must have been pretty simple, or repeated frequently04:02
cyphasedoes anyone here want a wordpress blog? I'm working on improving my linux server admin skills, and im trying to get more people on my server..04:03
Davey|Ubuntuanyone installed MySQL 4.1 using apt-get in Hoary? Where is the data directoy?04:03
Shuddertrixnatex: It says something at the comments at the beginning of the xorg.conf about a debconf something or other..04:03
Davey|Ubuntuwell, no, how do I set it up, after apt-get04:03
xavdabaSlon: don't tell me that's the way ...04:03
cyphaseDavey|Ubuntu, /var/lib/mysql04:03
natexShuddertrix, ok I'll check that out, thanks04:03
Strifebah, for some reason it didn't like the executable being 'lame' even though it was in my path... I just changed it to /usr/bin/lame and it works04:03
dabaSlonnatex need to reconfigure it?04:03
Davey|Ubuntucyphase: and if its not there, I missed something right?04:03
xavi just forced version ...04:03
cyphaseyea04:03
geetergodcan u tell me what to type each time?04:03
xavit seems ok04:03
dabaSlongood04:03
Davey|Ubuntuah, just no root password yet04:04
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natexdabaSlon, I changed my refresh rates now GDM doesn't start ("startx" works fine)04:04
Shuddertrixgeetergod: ?04:04
xavforce version of libfaad2-0 (not to use rareware-compression repo)04:04
geetergodto install invidia04:04
dabaSlondpkg --reconfigure xorg(something) I dont do this myself... I heard it from others/.04:04
novaflareoh i remembersomething i wanted to ask04:04
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dabaSlonas sudo, natex04:05
mp1does anyone have a clue howto set up 2 languages with xkb?  I'm wasting far too much time on this.04:05
novaflareubuntu reports that i have 504 megs ram instead of 512 megs04:05
novaflareany idea as to why?04:05
dabaSlonyeah...04:05
Shuddertrixnovaflare: Normal, i presume.04:05
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natexI'll try dabaSlon04:05
dabaSlonRam dint work that simple.04:05
hondjexav: [hondje @ jihad:~] $apt-cache show mplayer-686 | grep Section:     Section: multiverse/graphics   ...It's in there already04:05
kestasnovaflare: I think it uses 8MB for a ram disk04:05
novaflarek kind of thought this was probably the case04:05
kestasnovaflare: if you want to get it back try compiling your own kernel without initrd04:05
mp1or what the name of the gnome-keyboard layout manger/daemon is called??04:06
novaflarena was more curious as to if it was normal04:06
dabaSlonyes, normal.04:06
novaflarek04:06
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xavhondje: yes but libfaad2-0 prevented the installation04:06
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sidhartahola alguien que hable espaol???04:06
dabaSlonlike Ihave 512, and shows only 480...shared with graphics.04:06
dabaSlonxav, not installed?04:06
dabaSlonsidharta did you try #ubuntu-es ?04:07
neofaxdabaSlon: Do you know how to get a Netgear MA311 NIC(Prism2) USB working?04:07
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natexhey sidharta, that is my favorite book.04:07
hondjexav: Are you using the mulitverse one or the marillat one?04:07
sidhartatanx04:07
dabaSlonneofax no, but Ivoks likely does.04:07
ahammondnatex: dude that was kind of a cornball book04:07
sidhartayes but no body there04:07
haydenwhen i try to play a movie in totem the video and audio is out of sync, any ideas on how to fix this?04:08
dabaSlonwell, try sxpeaking in spanish, and we will speak in english, depends on how deifficult your proble is.04:08
neofaxdabaSlon: Is he here now?  I don't see his nick registered.04:08
dabaSlonNo, it seems not, he lives in Croatia, it is like, 4am there.04:08
cafuegoneofax: you load the prism drivers eh04:08
kestashayden: sorry that question isnt generic enough04:08
neofaxhayden: What type of CPU are you using?04:08
natexahammond, no way dude. it teaches alot about good life04:08
kestashayden: try 'how do I install kde'04:08
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sidhartai instaled ubuntu in my pc but i dont have network04:09
paul_anybody know how to install java in firefox?04:09
sidhartabut i have ip adres in my pc04:09
neofaxcafuego: They automatically get loaded using hotplug.04:09
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cafuegoneofax: *nod* Then all you need to do is set the essid and key using iwconfig (in wireless-tools)04:09
dabaSlonsidharta router?? modem?? dial-up?? DSL??04:09
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pepsihayden, if you use VLC you can adjust the synchronization04:09
sidhartarouter04:09
kestascan any geniuses/geniei tell me why this [ http://pastebin.com/291517 ]  happens?04:09
haydenpeppsi: ok thanks04:10
paul_how do i install java in firefox in ubuntu?04:10
neofaxcafuego: OK, I have tried iwconfig wlan0 essid "ATHENEOS".  That does not work I get an error04:10
sidhartai using a ruter for my network i conected windows en linux mepis and work bun in my ubunto dont work04:10
Davey|Ubuntuhmm, where are init scripts stored?04:10
cafuegoneofax: Did you run it as root?04:10
dabaSlonsidharta wired or wireless?04:10
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neofaxcafuego: Yes, both as root and as sudo root.04:11
cafuegoneofax: hoooold on. 'wlan0' ? That's not the prism driver.04:11
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dabaSlonpaul_ ubuntuguide.org has a walkthru04:11
paul_trying to install java in firefox here, any tips?04:11
sidhartawired04:11
mp1paul_: ubuntuguide.org04:11
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dabaSlonifconfig? valid IP?04:11
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cafuegoneofax: Does 'ifconfig -a' show wlan0 at all?04:11
neofaxcafuego: That is what gets loaded when I plug in the usb04:11
sidhartayep04:12
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Davey|Ubuntuhow do I add an init.d script for postgresql? can I just copy the one from my debian box? :)04:12
dabaSlonthank god for freenode not allowing too many nick changes at once:-p04:12
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neofaxcafuego: Yes, it does04:12
dabaSlonsidharta eth0?04:12
sidhartayes04:12
cafuegoneofax: and just running 'iwconfig' lists it as having wireless extensions?04:13
dabaSlonsudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 does that help at all?04:13
neofaxcafuego: Yes04:13
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cafuegoneofax: Which error do you get when you try to set the essid?04:13
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cafuegoneofax: Ah I see, you're probably using linux-wlan-ng drivers.04:15
hondjeanyone else having problems going back to X if you switch to a console while the fast user switching applet is running?04:15
cafuegoneofax: Do you have 'wlanctl' installed?04:15
dabaSlonsidharta^ bump...04:15
neofaxcafuego: SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.04:16
sidhartawhait04:16
neofaxcafuego: I have wlanctl-ng04:16
dabaSlonk04:16
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cafuegoneofax: try 'wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid=ATHENEOS'04:17
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sidhartanot work :(04:18
dabaSlonok, did you try shutting the devices down, and rebooting them, first turn on the modem, then router in a minute, then turn on computers?04:19
neofaxcafuego: It errors saying that authtype and resultcode are required04:19
cafuegoneofax: Ha, ok. that's promising :-)04:19
cafuegolanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable04:19
sidhartaok04:20
cafuegoneofax: Check 'man wlanctl-ng' for the proper syntax to the essid line; I've never used it myself, so don't know.04:20
dabaSlonyou can try that, sometimes that helps.04:20
cafuegoneofax: I've been looking at http://www.fuw.edu.pl/~pliszka/hints/prism2.html04:20
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dabaSlonshut everything down, then turn oin modem, and when it gets solid lights, router, then computers.04:21
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kestashahah thatll help04:21
dabaSlonkestas, are you drunk:)04:21
kestasdrunk on rage04:21
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dabaSlonso not drunk, tho?04:21
neofaxcafuego: Thanks, that gave a result of success04:21
kestasbecause noone can tell me why this [ http://pastebin.com/291517 ]  happens?04:21
dabaSlonwow, good work, cafuego.04:21
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dabaSlonah, right, kestas.04:22
dabaSlondid you try what the guy that was talking about the root said?>04:22
dabaSlonis the folder owned by rooot?04:22
dabaSlonthat kinda makes sense.04:22
kestasthat makes no difference04:22
kestaswhy would it?04:22
dabaSlonwell, what can it hurt?04:22
kestasand why would it give an SMB error?04:23
kestasbut yes I did try it04:23
dabaSlonoh, ok, good.04:23
dabaSlondid you try the encryption they mentioned>?04:23
liablekestas: maybe try changer user to username?04:24
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kestasif it was a problem with 'encryption' (what he meant to say was that smbmount was authenticating using plaintext but it needed to authenticate with lm or ntlm or ntlm2) why would it mount in fstab?04:24
ubuntuhi04:24
kestasyay!! liable gets the prizew04:25
ubuntustill cant get java support in firefox04:25
dabaSlonwow04:25
kestasdamn what a stupid mistake04:25
dabaSlonubuntuguide.org worsk, and also, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java works too.04:25
kestasthanks, you have restored my faith in #ubuntu04:25
liablehehe04:25
ubuntulol,04:25
Davey|Ubuntuhmm, not sure about this postgresql init.d script :/04:26
ubuntuubuntu is actually kind a crappy04:26
LinuxJoneskestas, nobody told you to save your data in a ghey format !!!04:26
ubuntutoo much configuration04:26
dabaSlonhehe, ubuntu did you try one of those two sites?04:26
ubuntump3, codecs, java shit that should all be working outta the box04:26
Cyber|ZzzI'm setting up free hosting on my server. If you would like please visit http://hosting.cybermagellan.com and I'll help you out04:27
kestasLinuxJones: what? are you going to pretend like you knew the answer all along now?04:27
dabaSlonubuntu, well, you dont know that, tho...its meant as a free software, all =together,.04:27
Shuddertrixubuntu: Too bad it's against licenses and things to provide that out of the box.04:27
hondjeIf you can talk Sun into it, you'd have many thanks from the world.04:27
ubuntuthen they should charge a nominal fee to cover license issues04:27
novaflareyup04:27
dabaSlonI couldnt care less.04:27
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novaflarejava is a major piss off04:27
Shuddertrixubuntu: It's designed to be free, however. Sorry.04:28
dabaSlonI dont even surf some weird sites, that use that...so what an animation is not working...:-/04:28
novaflarestnking sun and not allowing it to be included04:28
ShuddertrixI wouldn't pay for linux in a million years, anyways.04:28
novaflareyet they let you download for free04:28
novaflare:\04:28
ubuntuwell, your never going to convert the windows world by making it a configuration nightmare, sorry04:28
hondjeI'd hope not04:28
novaflareheh04:28
novaflarelinux wont ever be like windows04:28
Shuddertrixubuntu: It didn't take me long to get java, mp3, or codecs working.04:28
dabaSlonubuntu, well, you know...I have friends, so they set it up for me...till I learned.04:28
kestasyou can always get the java deb, and install, its pretty easy04:29
novaflareit prob wont ever be as popular and who cares04:29
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dabaSlonubuntu, windows and linux both at this time have their place...04:29
novaflarenot matter what that aloan is a slight boost in security04:29
ShuddertrixI used the scripts from ubuntuforums.org and the Ubuntuguide's add-on CD, works like a charm ;)04:29
kestasdeb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java04:29
JDahlubuntu, who said anything about world dominance? some of us are quite content with what linux does04:29
LinuxJoneskestas, if you want to use your computer in a reasonable way use reasonable formats to store your data. Complain to Microsft about incompatbility with Linux not the other way around and see what you get ?04:29
ubuntuits strange that i cant use the firefox pluggin installer to get java working04:29
novaflarei never thought id see the day when i could dump windows04:29
novaflareyet that days getting damn close04:29
dabaSlonubuntu, yeah that does not work.04:29
gaZoojust finished setting up ubuntu for the first time .. so far so good .. even got my dual monitors working fine with a little tinkering ..04:29
hondjeWhy can't this chan get high quality trolls?04:30
ubuntuby the way, xandros open circulation edition has none of these problems, its free, so why is that?04:30
dabaSlonnovaflare you actually think about these things:)04:30
hondjeThe witty ones04:30
gaZoolol04:30
novaflarejust need to get rid of a couple graphiics glitches in a game i play and its essentialy good by to windows for me04:30
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novaflaredabaslon i always think about security etc04:30
ubuntuso i doubt its a license issue04:30
dabaSlonubuntu, not free in that sense.l..04:30
dabaSlonNot free like that, made only from free software.04:30
ubuntusun doesnt charge for java04:30
dabaSlononly gpl software.04:30
kestasLinuxJones: what the HELL are you talking about?? this wasnt a compatibility problem, it was a typo mistake04:30
novaflaresecurity tweaking building repairing computers etc04:31
novaflareas for buying linux04:31
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dabaSlonkestas didnt you say you were upset cause it didnt work?? now its working...04:31
cafuegoShuddertrix: on i386, sure.04:31
alainmhow do i find out what /dev a particular device is on?04:31
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novaflareif that linux included 6 months sub to cedega and a few other thinggs id buy it04:31
dabaSlonubuntu, I dont expect you to understand this...04:31
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novaflareid not think twice about doing so04:31
levanderAnybody remember the name of that web site that had pirated binaries from usenet on it?  It was like newzbinz.com or something like that.04:31
dabaSlonalain, mounted ones, or noty mounted ones?04:31
ubuntuthe only saving grace i can see about ubuntu, is its speed compared to xandros oce04:32
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kestasdabaSlon: now Im 'upset' at LinuxJones for misunderstanding04:32
novaflarei see alot of saving graces in ubuntu04:32
novaflarelike oh i dont know ease of install04:32
FR500msg nickserv ident 243056104:32
novaflare12 or 15 keystrokes and it was set and forget04:32
hondjeThe saving grace of ubuntu is that their official IRC chan is so tolerant, IMHO04:32
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ubuntuits so so distro, not the best , not the worst04:32
levanderubuntu: i've also found better support forums for ubuntu, namely ubuntuforums and freenode than other similar distributions04:32
dabaSlonubuntu, I mean, humanity can prosper in another way than capitaism, and I am extremely glad that in my profession this is the most manifested,..you are just a computer user, and I respect your opinion, and trust me, they are working on it.04:32
cafuegohondje: I expect it's much like #debian. Nothing high quality about the weekend at all.04:32
kestasjejejej04:32
novaflareyeh that to hondje04:32
hondjecafuego: Yeah, and that's a shame :)04:32
novaflarethis is one of the best irc chans out there for friendly people04:33
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ubuntuwell i dont see anyone charging for java lmao04:33
dabaSlonkestas:)04:33
hondjewell, I wouldn't go that far, novaflare04:33
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cafuegohondje: And for most of 'em it's saturday night even, they shouldn't be at home at all!04:33
novaflareits not that you can download java freely04:33
LinuxJoneskestas, your whining about samba not working or am I mistaken ?04:33
novaflarebut to include it in the os by default youd have to pay for it04:33
kestasLinuxJones: you are04:33
cafuegohondje: At least my excuse is I'm hiding in the dark with a hangover ;-)04:33
ubuntusamba is awesome in xandros, its better04:33
novaflareevery one was bitching ms out about it04:33
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hondjecafuego: I can cite a lack of babysitting :)04:33
kestassamba is samba04:34
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dabaSlonubuntu, the freedom to excel  is more important in some ppls opinion that the freedom to buy a case of beer.....04:34
kestasjejejej04:34
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cafuegohondje: Most people old enough to require (to hire) a babysitter wouldn't be trolls.04:34
ubuntummmm beer sounds good right about now04:34
dabaSlonalainm what, then, mounted devices, or ones not mounted?04:34
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ubuntuunfortunatly i only have crown royal04:34
hondjecafuego: Unless they mastered the artform, reaching new heights of subtlety :)04:34
dabaSlonubuntu, I am sickk:( I would hatge beer..04:34
LinuxJoneskestas, sorry but I mis-understood something ..what is your problem ?04:34
dabaSlonubuntu,  haha...04:35
cafuegohondje: The few that are will probably go away if you tell them there's a Springer re-run on.04:35
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kestasLinuxJones: no problem , my problem was-- wait 1 sex04:35
novaflareone thing i love about ubuntu is ive already did some of the same things that totaly killed red hat 9 shrike04:35
kestasjejejejej04:35
kestasanyway04:35
kestas*sec04:35
hondjeyeah, and that's a shame...trolls once took pride in their work :)04:35
ubuntuso i guess ill settle for a crown on the rocks, thanks, got one good idea out of here, hehe jk04:35
novaflareyet i was able with help from people here to recover it easly04:35
dabaSlonone sex, how long is that, Kestas:-p?04:35
cafuegodabaSlon: In between 20 seconds and 45 minutes.04:35
ubuntuanybody care for a crown on the rocks? cheers04:36
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kestascloser to 20 seconds probably04:36
dabaSlonyou know that swatch commercial>04:36
levanderNobody remembers the name of that site that had all the pirated binaries from usenet on it? It was called something like newsbinz.net or something.04:36
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cafuegolevander: This isn't #pirated-binaries04:36
hondjeWell, as a certified GNU/Hippy, I'm not big on pirated anythings04:36
ubuntutry newsgroups for good flicks04:36
dabaSlonalainm last time Ill ask, you need to list devices, mounted ones, or nonmounted ones?04:36
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levandercafuego: yeah, but somebody in here remembers, i'll check that channel, thanks cafuego04:36
cafuegoOr maybe thiose debian girls, if they're still in the shower...04:36
haydenhow do i change the computer name so i can ping computername or somethign like that?04:37
levandercafuego: ha, it's dead channel04:37
kestasjejejejej04:37
hondjecafuego: I had a debian girl :(04:37
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hondjeThen one day she said 'screw this', and made me buy her a dirty mac....it's never been the same04:37
dabaSlonhondje cmon...04:37
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kestasjejejejej04:38
dabaSlonhey, Im on a ppc, OS X right now:)04:38
ubuntuok whats the apt-get command for getting java ?04:38
LinuxJoneskestas, here is your problem from your own post >> #04:38
LinuxJoneskestas@kestaspc:~$ sudo mount /mnt/storage/04:38
LinuxJones#04:38
LinuxJones8000: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)04:38
LinuxJones#04:38
LinuxJonesSMB connection failed ....is that not a Samba problem ?04:38
hondjeI'm serious, it was wonderful. She was apt-getting her way to freedom, and decided that 'just works' would be more fun :(04:38
levandercafuego: screw you, found it without your help!04:38
dabaSlonbitchX...I said bitch...:o04:38
LinuxJonesoops04:38
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kestasLinuxJones: yeah but that was because of a typo: I used user=kestas in fstab, and username=kestas in the mount command04:38
kestasLinuxJones: and I never badmouthed the samba project04:39
kestasjejejejej04:39
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ubuntusounds like a router or firewall problem to me04:39
limerlively conversation tonight04:39
dabaSlonubuntu, read ubuntuguide.org for java, or www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/java04:39
LinuxJoneskestas, so what's your problem ?04:39
ubuntuya i did, it didnt help04:39
kestasLinuxJones: no problem, you seem to have the problem04:39
dabaSlonhow could that happen??04:39
ubuntuill try again however04:39
Lafitte-anyone here know about wireless problems with Ubuntu ?     i have one  and wanted to try and correct it04:40
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dabaSlondo the ubuntuguide.org, that one is easier.04:40
kestasubuntu: add "sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"04:40
kestasjejejejej04:40
hondjeoh, that's cheating :-(04:40
dabaSlonLafitte- do ask, tho...04:40
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ubuntui get couldnt find package message04:40
Lafitte-dabaSlon,  the key for my home Ap  wont remove when changed04:40
kestasubuntu: add "sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"04:41
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kestasubuntu: then go into synaptic04:41
Lafitte-i want to save passwords    for different ap  but it always befaults to my home key04:41
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kestasubuntu and search for jre or java or something04:41
ubuntuive been there too04:41
ubuntusynaptic doesnt show anything04:41
kestasubuntu: press refresh then04:41
dabaSlonuse name and description04:42
ubuntuspeaking of which when i enable universal debian support it doesnt take04:42
kestasubuntu: and have you ran the "sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java" >> /etc/apt/sources.list" command?04:42
LinuxJoneskestas, maybe it was just your condescenting remark >> kestas thanks, you have restored my faith in #ubuntu04:42
ubuntuno ill try that tho04:42
dabaSlonLinuxJones lets all forget about that non-constructive converstation.04:43
dabaSlonone t.04:43
kestasLinuxJones: yeah well when youve got a weird question which noone is answering, yet questions which are in the FAQ are getting answered left right and center you get testy04:43
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dabaSlonah, that is what that remark meant, kestas...04:43
kestasjejejejej04:43
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kestaswhat did you think it meant?04:43
dabaSlonyoure just drunk, I can tell.04:43
kestasyou have one bad connection FR50004:43
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dabaSlonwasnt sure, I thought you were like serious, or something.04:43
novaflareill install mozilla windows version and java and run with cedega when i need to use somethign java based on web pages04:43
LinuxJonesdabaSlon, agreed :)04:43
novaflarenow thats cheating :)04:44
kestasjejejejej04:44
Lafitte-freeze04:44
ubuntupermission denied lol04:44
ubuntuvery very aggravating04:44
novaflareremove the >>>04:44
ubunturoadblocks everywhere i go04:44
dabaSlonnovaflare, yeah, thats not a obfuscated solution at all..04:44
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novaflareheheh04:44
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novaflarehas its benifits though04:44
kestas"sudo "echo "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"" command?04:44
novaflaretalk about sandboxxing heh04:45
kestas"sudo "echo \"deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java\" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"" command?04:45
LinuxJoneskestas, this channel is filled with people who try their best to help out,  if it's not good enouth for you why not try another channel ?04:45
kestasFR500 why do you keep leaving and then coming back?!04:45
kestasjejejejej04:45
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hondjeSun should just open source java, or we should start using gcj more....04:45
dabaSlonubuntu, you need basic Unix knowledge, I think, maybe that would help...04:46
dabaSlonAltho, my first java install was nto friendly neither..04:46
hondjeWe don't cry because Intel's cc is only gratis free, because we have gcc04:46
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ubuntuwhat i need is a distro, that isnt so messed up04:46
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kestasLinuxJones: I tried 3 channels, all of them answering dumbass FAQ questions like 'where is my sound' 'what extra compile options are there to get better speeds' etc04:46
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dabaSlonfunky moron....:)04:46
FR500something is disconecting me each time04:47
dabaSlonchange your nick04:47
kestasyeah FR500 whats up with that??04:47
dabaSlonthat will help04:47
ubuntuoh well04:47
kestasjejejejej04:47
hondjeThen perhaps you can try another distro like SuSE, ubuntu. I tried it out on a lappy, very nice.04:47
ubuntuclose but no cigar04:47
ubuntuback to xandros04:47
hondjeautomagically set up wireless, suspend, etc.04:47
novaflaresome one guessed his pass word and is ghosting him i bet04:47
NigroCubedubuntu is greatest04:47
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dabaSlonheh, I love when ppl give up on ubuntu cause of Java, or something like that.04:47
LinuxJoneskestas, those are frequent questions that folks that havn't been using Linux all that long have, it's natural.04:47
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dabaSlonyou are politically incorrect...drew..04:47
novaflareid not mind having java04:48
novaflarebut its far from make or break for me04:48
dabaSlonnovaflare well, is it a pc??04:48
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novaflareyeh04:48
kestasLinuxJones: why not just tell people to read the FAQ if theyre asking an FAQ? why rush to tell them the answer like youre going to get a prize04:48
andres_frhi04:48
dabaSlonwell, that is the easiest thing ever to install, novaflare , are you sertious, that you cant install it?04:48
kestasandres_fr: you have to change your pass for FR500, you posted it on the chan04:48
dabaSlonhi, andres_fr04:48
andres_froks04:49
novaflarenot tried much realy04:49
hondjeI'm missing something, I guess...04:49
andres_fri dont really care :p04:49
novaflarewas fooling with enlightenment04:49
hondjeDon't people have to install java on Windows?04:49
NigroCubedubuntu is greatest04:49
novaflaregot a headache from crappy ass res04:49
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dabaSlonnovaflare so, java installed, tho?04:49
novaflarena not at moment04:49
jasmuzUbuntu Rocks!04:50
yonilIs there a dictionary program for linux similiar to babylon for windows ? ( i need hebrew-english dictionary )04:50
dabaSlonhondje ppl dont understand that linux  is unix...04:50
LinuxJoneskestas, dude I have myself pointed a few hundred people to the FAQ's, people learn things differently and encouragment is not a bad thing.04:50
dabaSlonthey think it is I dont know what...04:50
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jasmuzyonil: why dont you search synaptic? eh??04:50
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yonildabaSlon, linux isnt unix, GNU = gnu isnt unix =p04:50
kestasLinuxJones: all your encouraging them to do is to ask more dumbass repetitive questions04:50
kestas*youre04:50
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dabaSlonwell, I mean, it is that type of OS...many conf files, different file syste,...04:51
dabaSlonroot, permissions, aliases, scripts, whatevgersl...so many new concepts.04:51
Davey|Ubuntuserves me right for having such a large set of extensions04:51
yonilah sure, everything's a file04:51
kestaslets not start this 'what is unix' debate again..04:51
kestasyonil: what about processed?04:51
dabaSlonI took a course in it at University, and he comes here, and thinks Ill teach him how to use it in 2 mins...04:51
kestas*processes04:51
Davey|Ubuntugetting there though :D04:51
hondjeYou don't need a course, you just need to read the documentation....04:52
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kestasDavey|Ubuntu: you any good with php5?04:52
LinuxJoneskestas, that might be your way of getting folks to use Ubuntu but it's not mine04:52
andres_fris enlightment a replacement for gnome or just nautilus?04:52
dabaSlonhondje well, you dont need it...but, it comes in handy...04:52
hondjeandres_fr: either :)04:52
andres_frhm?04:53
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kestasLinuxJones: were not missionaries trying to get everyone in the world to use ubuntu, who cares who uses it?04:53
hondjeoh, nautilus04:53
hondjeI misread that as metacity for some odd reason04:53
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hondjeandres_fr: gnome04:53
Davey|Ubuntuhmm, what do I need to do to allow for > 885MB of RAM?04:53
LinuxJoneskestas, well obviously not you04:53
Davey|Ubuntu(i.e. 1GB)04:53
andres_frhm, but i guess some gnome apps look alin there right?04:54
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jasmuzkestas: you are wrong04:54
kestasLinuxJones: its an OPERATING SYSTEM.. not a religion.. jeez I half expect to see people hijacking aeroplanes in the name of linux soon04:54
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hondjehehehe04:54
novaflarelol04:54
slashvenis possible to install kde on ubuntu???04:54
NigroCubedyes04:54
NigroCubedof coures04:54
NigroCubedubuntu is the best04:54
NigroCubedyou can do anything with ubuntu04:55
kestasslashven: read the FAQ04:55
Davey|Ubuntuoh, need the i686 kernel04:55
jasmuzslashven: yes...just download kde-desktop via apt or synaptic04:55
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dabaSlonslashven yes, it is.04:55
LinuxJoneskestas, dude nobody said it was a religion if you don't want to help anybody out, why are you in this irc channel ?04:55
dabaSlonslashven I have had several ppl complain about not being able to get back into gnome after installing.04:55
dabaSlonslashven the command is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:56
slashvencould i do it usin apt-get04:56
slashvenok04:56
slashventhanks04:56
kestasLinuxJones: to get help for my long since solved problem, and when people arent debating which wm is the best, helping people with stupid questions or saying 'woo go ubuntu yay!! lol' then its a good chan04:56
dabaSlonnot surte which repos are needed, but I would get the ones nickrud created.04:56
Davey|Ubuntudo I get the AMD K7 kernel for an AthlonXP 3200+?04:56
jasmuzdabaSlon: i installed KDE and uninstalled without a hitch04:56
dabaSlonkestas, I can not see what your problem is...04:56
kestasLinuxJones: and I help with problems which arent stupid too, when there is one04:56
dabaSlonwe love you man...:-pp04:56
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ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: Yes.04:56
Davey|Ubuntuthanks Shuddertrix04:57
dabaSlonjasmuz good for you, both were newbies, and gnome would not load except through failsafe.04:57
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ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: I'm using the K7 kernel for my 2600+, perfect.04:57
jasmuzdabaSlon: im also a noob04:57
hondjeWhat happened to "humanity to others"? :)04:57
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dabaSlonwell,, me too, but they weere like right fresh installs, at least one of them.04:57
Davey|UbuntuShuddertrix: do you know if kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 supports 1GB RAM?04:57
novaflarekestes thing is what is a stupid question? im a complete noob ti linux essentialy04:57
novaflarei prefer to do stuff on my own asking for as little help as possible04:58
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hondjeDavey|Ubuntu: I think there's a kernel-k7 metapackage04:58
novaflarebut other will want or need more help04:58
ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: Not entirely sure, let me check.04:58
hondjeIt'll install all that shit for you04:58
dabaSlonI really dont see a need for your argument, LinuxJones , and kestas .04:58
kestasa stupid question is one which is in the FAQ or easily googled04:58
icemantook me a while to reconfig my keyboard, Downloaded Wolfenstein Enemy terratoy, it launched some application that kept asking to set keyboard delay ..04:58
Davey|UbuntuShuddertrix: thanks04:58
slashvenhow could i handle a dvd???04:58
ShuddertrixGet the metapackage, however.04:58
kestasdabaSlon: me neither04:58
hondjeassuming k7 is what you want04:58
Davey|Ubuntuslashven: to read? write?04:58
slashvento read04:58
kestasslashven: read the FAQ04:59
novaflareoh you mean like the faq for installing drivers for ati04:59
slashvenok..04:59
dabaSlonslashven do read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:59
icemananyone using a 64 bit system /04:59
slashvenim gonna read it04:59
novaflarei tend to be able to figure out things like that fairly easly04:59
novaflareyet that faqw was very confusing at first04:59
dabaSlonkestas, if you would like me to explain something abotu the real world, and you will listen, I will.04:59
LinuxJoneskestas, nobody is forcing you to be here. If we are not elite enough for you try #Debian (you will get lots of lovin in there)04:59
dabaSlonThe real world of tech support.04:59
hondjehehe, #debian04:59
dabaSlon:)04:59
novaflaretook me 2 or 3 small questions to figure out what i was screwing up on04:59
kestasdabaSlon: eeee no thanks04:59
Davey|Ubuntuslashven: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback04:59
Shuddertrixmm, Davey|Ubuntu, i'm not sure05:00
Davey|UbuntuShuddertrix: hmm :/05:00
Shuddertrixit should though05:00
dabaSloncause I work tech support exactly like this in chat../..so I can tell you the facts.05:00
Shuddertrixthe bigmem limit is 4gb IIRC05:00
novaflaresome times faqs while well intentioned and well writen for most users will confuse the ever livign hell out of others05:00
dabaSlon50 % of the job is resestting passwordfs.05:00
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kestasLinuxJones: Im not elite, I just think people should read the FAQ before coming here, thats what the FAQ is for05:00
Shuddertrixor something like that05:00
dabaSlon30 % is refering to the FAA.05:00
dabaSlonFAQ.05:00
Davey|Ubuntukernel-image-2.6-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on AMD K7. <--- the meta package?05:00
hondjea lot of newbies seem not to understand the faq05:00
novaflareyeh05:00
hondjeLike none of them can grok a man page, it's gibberish05:00
LinuxJonesdabaSlon, I take insulting #ubuntu fairly seriously, we are here trying to help :D05:01
kestasthey seem to not read it, take slashven for example05:01
ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: linux-k705:01
dabaSlonLinuxJones I never heard him insulting, and I could only get upset at what he said if I thought it had anything to do with the truth.05:01
Davey|UbuntuShuddertrix: thats what its called?05:01
hondjeDavey|Ubuntu: linux-k7 - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K705:01
andres_frwow enlightment looks amazing05:01
novaflareto me a well writen faq uses a example05:01
hondjeI bet that's the metapackage, mine was linux-68605:01
ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: Yeah.05:01
dabaSlonwhy slashven, nice guy, came in asked a quesstion, went away, came ack, went away...05:01
ShuddertrixThe metapackage05:01
Davey|Ubuntuhmm, I don't have that one05:01
LinuxJoneskestas, not everybody knows how good the www.ubuntulinux.org website is05:01
novaflarelike a faq might mention app get05:02
andres_fri need a monitor that can take 1600x1200 so it looks even cooler05:02
hondjeandres_fr: e17 is the future05:02
ShuddertrixInstalls the image and modules05:02
novaflareand use the stupid ass < > for a example05:02
kestasLinuxJones: well theyre not going to learn if you baby walk them through it instead of telling them about it05:02
slashvenjajaja05:02
dabaSlonwill have his comp setup soon, I really think you need a chill pill kestas:) No need to be upset, we really try, but most of use are newbies ourselves.05:02
novaflaresome people may thing that the < > are needed for the command05:02
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novaflareor may asume they are not needed etc05:02
novaflareor same goes for "05:02
yonilwhat's the meaning of the word "dharma" ?05:02
ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: It should be there.05:03
Davey|UbuntuShuddertrix: its not there, but I have enabled all the universe, multiverse, etc package repositories05:03
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slashventhis is because im reading some about ubuntu... because im new in here... dabaSlon05:03
ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: You've apt-get update'd, right?05:03
spinifexnovaflare: You think it would be better to instead use css borders to make a blank box where we substitute a word?05:03
limeryonil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma05:03
dabaSlonnovaflare yup, you can never dumb it down ennough is my moto at work...05:03
jasmuzyonil:  remember this is a suppor channel05:03
novaflareyeh exactly05:03
Davey|UbuntuShuddertrix: unless its been put in in the last 2 hrs?05:03
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LinuxJonesdabaSlon, well IMHO he had a condescending remark about the channel which I don't agree with05:04
novaflarehell i was typing sudo some command with qoutes05:04
spinifexyonil: A dharma (daruma) is a japanese thing.  It's a man with no arms or legs.  You color in one eye when you set a goal, and color in the other when you complete it05:04
dabaSlonslashven, I did nto get your messge, I read the text, but I dont get what you are trying to say...05:04
ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: It's been in there for a long time now.. :P05:04
novaflarecause the faq had "around the entire thing05:04
dabaSlonthat guy kkestas was dissing you, so I said he is not right to do that...05:04
ShuddertrixAre you using warty or hoary, anyways?05:04
ubuntu_philare there any networking gurus here that will help a newb out? =)05:04
slashveni mean nothing..05:04
spinifexyonil: I think the story is that he meditated on his goals so long that he no longer needed his limbs05:04
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spinifexoo, wiki, missed that05:05
FlyingSquirrel31Just added a secondary pci trident video card. Was hoping it would just start working, but it didn't. Was I expecting too much?05:06
novaflareanother reason some one may not use a faq05:06
limer;)05:06
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andres_frhondje, it seems05:06
kestasFlyingSquirrel31: you have to configure it in xorg.conf05:06
ShuddertrixYou could just run sudo apt-get install linux-image-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k705:06
spinifexhey, the faq is good05:06
kestasFlyingSquirrel31: read the gentoo guide to dual monitors05:06
novaflareis because they may think some one will tell them a easyer way thats come up sence the faq was wrote05:06
andres_frubuntu_phil, no guru, what do you need?05:06
spinifexnovaflare: the faq is pretty recent.  Hoary was just released05:07
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novaflareyeh05:07
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FlyingSquirrel31kestas, gentoo, isn't that another distro? 'i'm on ubuntu. Should hotplug have reognised it?05:07
novaflarebut i remember 2 times comeing in here and some one gave me a couple quick tips on installign somethign05:07
novaflareand i had read the faq and was confused by it05:07
hondjenovaflare: and I do it all day long :P05:07
kestasFlyingSquirrel31: the gentoo tutorial doesnt have anything gentoo specific in it05:07
novaflareyet what they told me worked with out a hitch05:07
spinifexwhat did they have you install?05:08
slashvenis there a dmsn version relay for ubuntu??05:08
kestasFlyingSquirrel31: it may have recognised the monitor and card but that doesnt mean itll use it05:08
novaflaredont remember now05:08
novaflarewas when i was working on my drivers and few other misc things05:08
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spinifexah05:08
kestasFlyingSquirrel31: tbh dual monitors with X is a bitch05:08
novaflareim still trying to get dual monitors going05:09
dbernar1slashven, I dont kno what that is, I think google may tell you, or synaptic, searhc for name and description, tho05:09
spinifexwell that's what the channel is for.  Referring to the FAQ is just so we don't have to repeat ourselves, ne?05:09
novaflareive essentialy gave up on it for now05:09
slashvenok..05:09
kestasnovaflare: same05:09
dbernar1slashven also, having all repositories enabled will help.05:09
slashvenit sopuses that dmsn is emac clone for the msn messenger05:09
dbernar1there is a wiki on it, created by nickkrud, nice sources.list.05:09
slashvenis like to amsn...05:09
dbernar1slashven, ,using gaim now?05:10
dbernar1You can use that for all protocols.05:10
Davey|Ubuntuwoohoo! PHP5.0.4 installed and running :D05:10
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dbernar1good stuff, Davey|Ubuntu .05:10
slashvenyeah im using gaum no.. +05:10
dbernar1if you go to the buddies listk, and hit ctrl+a opens accounts, then add, and add whatever.05:10
jasmuzDavey|Ubuntu: congrats!05:10
Davey|Ubuntudbernar1: heh, I've done 601 million times ;)05:10
novaflarewell im off05:10
novaflaregoing to bed05:11
Davey|Ubuntudbernar1: its just a cache of ./configure wait till it breaks, apt-cache search $package_it_couldn't_find, apt-get install $package, ./configure wait till it breaks...05:11
Davey|Ubuntuat least, on a system I've not setup before...05:11
FlyingSquirrel31kestas, thanks for the encouragement.05:11
kestasheheh anytime05:11
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dbernar1night, novaflare .05:12
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spinife1woo, I can use gaim for this05:12
spinife1o, it mangled my name cuz I'm double connected05:12
dbernar1yup.05:12
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dbernar1I cant become dabaSlon for some reason, it didntt get discoed.05:12
dbernar1Im using bitchX on Mac OS X.05:13
Davey|Ubuntuanyone know if the .gaim from windows will work in linux gaim?05:13
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FlyingSquirrel31It says to use "rc-update del xdm default" to set the pc to not start x on boot. Just to be sure, what command can I use to undo this?05:13
kestas /ns ghost dabaSlon yourpassword05:13
spinifexdavey: what?05:13
spinifexoh the configuration05:13
BoarderTXi went throuhg the wiki instructions for getting wireless to work, which included doing a "modprobe ndiswrapper" which cuased the reboot of my machine05:13
kestasFlyingSquirrel31: ah actually that wont work05:13
dbernar1I dont have a password.05:13
spinifexI don't know, but if I were you I would reconfigure it with the gui, to make sure the features exist.  There are windows exclusive features05:13
kestasFlyingSquirrel31: you dont want to follow it word for word05:13
BoarderTXit loaded fine, so i finished by doing the "sudo gedit /etc/modules" and appending it with ndiswrapper05:14
hondjeyeah, ubuntu uses gdm for example05:14
BoarderTXrestarted and now its stopped at starting hotplug system and seems locked05:14
kestasFlyingSquirrel31: just set up xorg.conf like it says, and take a backup, and know how to revert to that backup if X doesnt start05:14
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Davey|Ubuntuawesome! I just symlinked my windows one over...05:15
Davey|Ubuntubut I have a feeling it'll b0rke when I try to log something :/05:15
hondjehrm, the magnifier looks like crap when you set your session language to korean05:16
BoarderTXany thoughts?05:16
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liableBoarderTX: well, start with removing it from modules. or blacklist it in hotplug05:17
FlyingSquirrel31kestas, great... what am I getting myself into??05:17
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BoarderTXwhat do you mean blacklist it05:17
kestasa whole load of shit if you dont know what youre doing05:17
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FlyingSquirrel31kestas, okay then, how do I start X with a particular xorg.conf?05:18
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liableBoarderTX: /etc/hotplug/blacklist    put it in there05:18
tiglionabbityarg, how do I change my nickname password on freenode?05:18
BoarderTXoh ok05:18
FlyingSquirrel31kestas, and how do I set it to boot into X using a certain .conf?05:18
flex_low gravity fps hehehe05:18
kestasFlyingSquirrel31: if you dont know how to alter, back up, and restore your xorg.conf then you shouldnt be trying to use dual monitors05:18
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BoarderTXso am i out of luck or should there be a way to get this working?05:18
FlyingSquirrel31xorg.confI think I can work out the rest with the wiki05:18
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liableBoarderTX: yes, just try the blacklist and reboot05:19
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liableBoarderTX: you have a knoppix cd or something?05:20
FlyingSquirrel31kestas, If I just backup the original, and I know how to start it manually, I should be safe, no?05:20
FlyingSquirrel31kestas, I'm willing to learn.05:20
BoarderTXliable: no i dont, i just installed ubuntu 5.04 off the iso and wanted to try to get my netgear wg111 usb wifi working so i could get on the net, i have no e05:20
BoarderTXother access05:20
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liableBoarderTX: oh, well, if you dont know how to use the install cd to mount your fs, maybe a re-install would take less time.05:21
BoarderTXwell i got in through a recovery option05:22
BoarderTXit takes you to a root prompt, i got back into gnome05:22
BoarderTXi'm wondering what to do now05:22
liableBoarderTX: oh, ok, then blacklist the module and try a reboot05:22
BoarderTXwhat does blacklisting do? should i keep the line removed from the /etc/modules?05:23
liableBoarderTX: it will stop hotplug loading the module, yes leave it in /etc/modules for now and see what happens05:23
BoarderTXok so have it in both05:24
liableyes05:24
FlyingSquirrel31kestas,  this doesn't look so bad...05:24
liableBoarderTX: how did you get the ndiswrapper module?05:24
liableFlyingSquirrel31: hes gone dude05:24
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BoarderTXi downloaded it05:24
BoarderTXi'm following http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto05:25
raDeonmURRAY!05:25
FlyingSquirrel31liable, yeh, I was just catching on to that. :)05:25
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hybridhello all05:26
BoarderTXbrb05:27
liableBoarderTX: ok, when you loaded the module before05:27
liableit loaded ok?05:27
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FlyingSquirrel31how do I disable X from starting at boot on ubuntu?05:27
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eyequeueFlyingSquirrel31:  permanently? dpkg --purge gdm05:28
liableremove gdm05:28
new2gentooliable, that is necessary is it?05:28
eyequeueFlyingSquirrel31: or rather, sudo dpkg --purge gdm05:28
FlyingSquirrel31no, I want to configure dual monitors, somthing temporary.05:28
eyequeueFlyingSquirrel31: sudo apt-get install gdm, after then05:29
jasmuzFlyingSquirrel31: read about Xinerama05:29
liableFlyingSquirrel31: /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:29
liableFlyingSquirrel31: ctrl - alt - back05:29
eyequeueFlyingSquirrel31:  why not just boot to single user mode from the grub menu?05:30
FlyingSquirrel31I like the grub idea.05:30
FlyingSquirrel31eyequeue, if I do that can I still run startx after changing the xorg.conf?05:31
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eyequeueFlyingSquirrel31:  simple painless no changes, you change what you like then reboot normally05:31
FlyingSquirrel31eyequeue, cool.05:31
eyequeueFlyingSquirrel31:  and yes, you can use startx for testing too05:32
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andres_frif i get enlightment, how do i choose which windows manager to use each time?05:32
kakaltodoes anyone else here use oneko?05:33
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liablewell, it is sunday after all05:35
BoarderXT1ok i am back. so basically i am new to ubuntu and my only means of access are my wireless usb key (netgear wg111), i am wondering how the best way to get that working is05:35
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liableBoarderXT1: did it boot?05:36
BoarderXT1well something's all screwed p05:37
BoarderXT1i know this might sound crazy05:37
BoarderXT1but i couldn't get into root05:37
BoarderXT1as if the password had been changed05:37
BR0KENword to all: Ardour is freekin sweet.05:37
BoarderXT1i was thinking abou resinstalling and trying this effort again from scratch05:38
eyequeueBoarderXT1:  there is no root password05:38
eyequeueBoarderXT1:  http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:38
BoarderXT1well i recall it asking for one when installed. an di even tried putting in nothing05:38
tiglionabbitboarder: the first user is given sudo privileges.  It asks for your user password when you use a gui program that needs root.  You can use sudo to run root things from the terminal05:39
BoarderXT1cool05:39
eyequeueBoarderXT1:  um not a *root* password, a user password (which you can use to sudo)05:39
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BoarderXT1ok05:39
liableBoarderXT1: try sudo05:39
BoarderXT1i will thanks05:39
BoarderXT1so what do you think the best way to get the usb key working it?05:39
eyequeueBoarderXT1:  if you're in x, gksudo05:39
mazterminBoardesudo passwd lets you change the root password05:39
new2gentooeyequeue, how long do you have sudo permission after entering password?05:40
mazterminuntill you play with the sudoers file05:40
eyequeuenew2gentoo:  by default, 5 moinutes, but it's configurable05:40
eyequeuenew2gentoo:  man 5 sudoers, for how05:41
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BoarderXT1sorry i dont know if its matters but i'm referring to a usb wireless key05:41
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BoarderXT1its a netgear wg111, i'm open for suggestions to gettin git working05:41
mazterminwireless??05:41
new2gentoothanks eyequeue was just wondering how ubuntu handled it without having a typical root access05:41
mazterminthe storage part should be mountaboe as /dev/sda105:42
eyequeueBoarderXT1:  let me first presume your kernel supports it, okay?05:42
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BoarderXT1ok05:42
liablehehe, no, eyequeue ndiswrapper05:42
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OSStigerHow do we use the "Gnome BitTorrent" program? I have a URL for a torrent file, but the program is asking to open a file on my PC.05:42
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eyequeueBoarderXT1:  open up a console, type 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' and then plug the device in and unplug it, to see if it shows up there05:43
eyequeueBoarderXT1:  then type sudo dmesg | tail, for the same reason05:43
eyequeueBoarderXT1:  if so, you now know it's sensed, and what it will be calling it05:43
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holycow*hmm*05:44
holycowwhats the fastest way to backup files and retain permissions?05:44
eyequeueBoarderXT1:  if not, well, you'll need to get the right modules loaded (or compiled) and that's something that i won't be here long enough to walk you through05:44
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BoarderXT1ok05:45
eyequeueholycow:  cp -a foo bar05:45
BoarderXT1so what exactly does ndiswrapper do?05:45
raDeonhaha foo bar05:45
new2gentooraDeon, so do you say similar things in here?05:45
raDeonno.05:45
holycowheh good point05:45
eyequeueholycow:  if it's more than just a file, i prefer to make up a tarball (if it's to another host, man rsync, which has some nifty options)05:46
holycoweyequeue, does tar automatically retain permissions or do i need to pass a flag?05:46
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mazterminndiswrapper emulates a widows environment for the specific driver so you can use windows drivers in linux. (there is probably a better explanation, but not that I can put here and now)05:46
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eyequeueholycow:  -p (owercase) will retain perms05:47
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holycowah! cool danke05:47
holycow:)05:47
OSStigeris the built-in Gnome BitTorrent program just for uploading? or can it also download stuff?05:47
raDeonOSStiger, yes05:47
BoarderXT1ok05:47
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eyequeueholycow:  -p is default for noot, but not for non-root, iirc, so to be safe, specify it05:48
BoarderXT1so ndiswrapper runs in teh background emulating windows drivers for linux05:48
OSStigerraDeon: yes, it can download? or yes, it only is for uploading?05:48
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BoarderXT1how come putting it in teh modules file would cause a hang at boot?05:48
mazterminnot emulating05:48
dabaSlon_sckraDeon: it was an or question.05:48
raDeonhaha i know i just thought it was funny because he asked two question05:48
dabaSlon_sckOSStiger: I would expect both.05:48
raDeonso i say yes05:48
raDeonto be funny05:48
dabaSlon_sckyA, it was kinda:)05:48
mazterminit works as a bridge between the ndiswrtapper moddule and the windows driver05:48
raDeoncomedy is my strong point05:48
eyequeueOSStiger:  it's opeer-to-peer, meaning there's no up and down, just "sharing" (both ways)05:48
holycoweyequeue, oh i didn't know that either05:49
holycowvery cool, appreciate that05:49
maztermin(a few typoes, dont like this keyboard..)05:49
randeyhow to stop a service in ubantu. I want to off the ntp service. its taking long time while booting05:49
drcodedd2is there postscript editor ?05:49
andres_frrandey, chmod -x service05:49
eyequeueholycow:  np.  btw "man tar" if ever you need info and can't get on irc (slash is the search-for-string command)05:49
andres_frit's all at ubuntuguide05:49
eyequeuerandey:  /etc/init.d/ntpdate stop, for example05:50
OSStigerhow can i download a bittorent file, then? When I click on the Gnome BitTorrent program icon in the menu, I get a "Open Location for BitTorrent meta file" dialog window. But it doesn't ask for the URL/URI.05:50
randeyeyequeue : that is not permanent.05:50
andres_frhondje, did you try enlightment from the repositories?05:50
eyequeuerandey:  but if you want to avoid it running at boot, see 'man update-rc.d'05:50
andres_frOSStiger, you have to download the torrent file first05:50
randeyeyequeue : thanks05:50
OSStigerOh, i see, andres_fr05:50
OSStigerthanks.05:50
andres_frnp05:51
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eyequeuerandey:  np, that also explains ubuntu's boot philosophy, so you'll come away knowing more, but don't get overwhelmed if you aren't interested in it all05:51
hondjeandres_fr: No, I was building it from cvs until I switched to ubuntu about a month ago05:51
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andres_frhondje, it doesnt look all ready from the repos as the pagest say05:52
OSStigeris there "pause downloading" feature in Gnome Bittorent?05:52
hondjeandres_fr: It's only good for running in xnest right now :(05:52
andres_frxnest?05:52
fishieyou can hit stop05:52
fishiethen resume05:52
andres_frOSStiger, you should get azureus if you are up for big leeching05:52
hondjeandres_fr: yeah, like flexiserver05:53
mazterminazeur or abc, both works very well05:53
eyequeueOSStiger:  gtk-bitorrent is the basic app, but azureus is the featureful one05:53
icemananyone have a great kde desktop i can see screen shots of ?05:53
andres_frhondje, you lost me again :p05:53
OSStigereyequeue, asureus is not in the REPOs, i'm afraid.05:53
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hondjeandres_fr: like a desktop inside a window on your desktop05:54
eyequeueOSStiger:  no, but ubuntuguide.org gives specific step-by-step instructions05:54
andres_froh05:54
eyequeueOSStiger:  azureus btw05:54
andres_frwhy is that?05:54
FlyingSquirrel31ok, when I ran X -configure on my system, it came back saying it didn't have the output drivers.05:54
FlyingSquirrel31I've done a little research and found my card is supported by the trident driver.05:54
FlyingSquirrel31Does this come with the kernel or ubuntu, or where do I download it from?05:55
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dr_willisFlyingSquirrel31,  it should.05:56
FlyingSquirrel31dr_willis, any ideas why I'd get that error?05:56
eyequeueFlyingSquirrel31:  linux-image-2.6.10-5-686: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/sound/oss/trident.ko (as one example)05:56
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dr_willisnope. :P  if i had a machien with a trident video card... i'd use it for a paperweight. :P lol.05:57
OSStigereyequeue, you were saying something about "azureus btw..." ....05:57
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dr_williswhat is the exact type of video card anyway?05:57
OSStigerwhich is better? Bittorrent's official version, or azureus?05:57
mp1where's the conf file for the gdm login WM chooser??05:57
FlyingSquirrel31eyequeue, I've got the same file. Any ideas why I'd get that error?05:57
eyequeueOSStiger:  just mentioning that is the spelling, if you're doing a grep of that page, ubuntuguide.org05:57
dr_willismp1,  you mean where does it get the list of window managers?05:57
eyequeueFlyingSquirrel31:  no05:57
OSStigergrep?05:57
eyequeueOSStiger:  a search, like when you press slash in firefox05:58
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icemanopps05:58
mp1dr_willis: yes please... I reinstalled xfce using apt-get after uninstalling the binary packages, and now I have two entries05:58
dr_willismp1, /usr/share/xsessions/WHATEVER.desktop05:58
dr_willisis where they are kept.05:58
mp1thanks05:59
FlyingSquirrel31dr_willis, Device manager says: TGUI 9660/938x/968x05:59
OSStigeri have a package called "bittorrent" that has been installed. this is not the same as gnome bittorrent, is it?05:59
icemanhow to get and install kde themes ?05:59
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neverstablehello any one plz help me loading ubuntu06:00
neverstablei tried morphix-instller06:00
benplauticeman: #kubuntu ;)06:00
FlyingSquirrel31dr_willis, trying to install it as a secondary card to show movies on my fancy new projector ;-)06:00
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mp1so dr_willis if I change one of them to a non .desktop ending, it won't be seen by the chooser right?  so i can by process of elimination figure out which one i want06:00
neverstableit says command not found06:00
neverstableplz help me06:00
mazterminiceman: google there are a abundance of places to get them06:00
dr_willisFlyingSquirrel31,  could manyally set the driver in the X confg file. but  i dont know what the name of the driver would be.06:00
dr_willisneverstable,  morphix-installer? where is that from06:00
eyequeueneverstable:  morphix != ubuntu06:01
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icemanhave tried linux a lot lately.. just never figured out how to install the themes06:01
eyequeueokay, it;s time, bye06:01
neverstablewht abt sudo morphix-instller06:01
FlyingSquirrel31dr_willis, according to a list I googled, the name of the driver is just "trident"06:01
eyequeueneverstable:  morphix is a completely different distro.  are you trolling?06:01
FlyingSquirrel31dr_willis, my prob is that I don't know setting up x config's.06:01
dr_willisFlyingSquirrel31,  ya tried manually editing the x config file then?  change the driver= line perhaps.06:01
neverstableno06:02
neverstablebut in the documentation and googling i get that command06:02
neverstablehttp://www.linuxfactory.ie/llfsoftw/llfswdis.html06:02
dr_willisFlyingSquirrel31,  could cheat and boot knoppix, or morphix, and if they work. copy their X config over :P06:02
neverstableyou can check this06:02
benplauticeman: did you ever solve the 640x480 problem?06:02
neverstablebut its not workin plz help me :((06:02
dr_willisneverstable,  thats because its for Morphix.. not ubuntu06:03
dr_willisif you want to install ubungu - get a installcd.06:03
hondjeHi...does xorg not require the font server running?06:03
FlyingSquirrel31dr_willis, but If I just change the driver name, won't it try to use my primary card with the trident drivers (which would probably fail)06:03
dr_willisFlyingSquirrel31,  no idea. :P   one way to find out.06:03
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neverstablebut can't we install from a live cd06:04
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FlyingSquirrel31dr_willis, yeah... study the manuals :D06:04
dr_willisneverstable,  ubuntu has no install from live cd feature yet.06:04
neverstablewat06:04
benplautneverstable: but it is planned for future releases (?)06:04
neverstableoh no06:04
dr_williswhat what? very simple.. :P its not a feature.06:05
raDeonNOT A FEATURE. NOT A FEATURE.06:05
dr_willisthe DVD version has a live cd and works as an install cd.. but it  not an 'install from live cd'06:05
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raDeonCAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW06:05
neverstableoh no06:05
raDeonINSTALL FROM LIVE CD06:05
XenguyraDeon: get off the capslock please06:05
robertis a 10GB partition enough for EBUNTU?06:05
raDeonno problems06:05
neverstablebut the site said http://www.linuxfactory.ie/llfsoftw/llfswdis.html we can installe from live cd06:05
robertubuntu*06:05
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|QuaD-_neverstable: maybe the site is wrong :)06:06
dr_willisrobert,  maybe a little small for a much real  work.. but a basic system should work.06:06
neverstableoh no06:06
merc248hi... i'm having problems with trying to load the ipw2200 modules; i try to do a sudo modprobe ipw2200 after installing the new drivers, and i keep getting "invalid module format"06:06
merc248any ideas at all?06:06
neverstablebut where can i get complete real info06:06
dr_willisneverstable,  that site dosent even MENTION ubuntu06:06
dr_willistry the ubuntu homepages06:06
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neverstablei tried06:07
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neverstablebut there is no sign of  installation06:07
dr_willisHuh?06:07
|QuaD-_neverstable: what?06:07
dr_willisyou get a installcd and go at it. :P06:07
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dr_willisthey dont mention isntalling from a live  cd/ becasue its not doable. :P06:07
|QuaD-_dr_willis: you can on some distros06:07
robertwats considered real work?06:07
dr_willis|QuaD-_,  we are refering to Ubuntu here however. :P06:08
|QuaD-_neverstable: what exactly is your question/problem/etc06:08
|QuaD-_dr_willis: :)06:08
neverstablemine is installin ubuntu from live cd06:08
neverstablei need the command06:08
carsoncIs the via server from hoary's X.org borked in some way?  I upgraded from warty and had to switch to vesa.06:08
dr_willisneverstable,  cant be dont at the time.. next.. :P06:08
neverstablei tried morphix-instlaler06:08
dr_williserr done.. :P06:08
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dr_willisneverstable,  thats for the Morphix Linux Live Cd/Disrto06:08
neverstable:P06:08
neverstable:)06:09
neverstable:(06:09
|QuaD-_neverstable: it is not possible. maybe later on, but currently you can't. what else do you need06:09
neverstablenothin06:09
neverstablethq:)06:09
neverstable:)06:09
dr_williswhich is very nicely done.   Morphix and Knoppix both can do live cd-installs.06:09
|QuaD-_neverstable: why is installing from live cd so important?06:09
neverstablebut not ubunt06:09
roberthow do i increase the size of a partition without reinstalling Ubuntu?06:09
raDeonthe cheese stands alone.06:09
|QuaD-_mepis can install from livecd06:09
paringashi, guys, just put on the 5.04 and can't get my bluetooth mouse to work, could anyone help, please?06:09
neverstablehow can i configure bluetooth in ubuntu06:09
AegirMepis does installs very nicely06:09
dr_willisrobert,  could boot a live cd that has gparted, or qt_parted,  and resize the partitions.06:10
paringasneverstable: that's what i'm talking about :)06:10
|QuaD-_neverstable: livecd or installed?06:10
paringas|QuaD-_: installed06:10
neverstablei hv ubutu instlled06:10
|QuaD-_paringas: do you have the bluez package?06:10
robertsay wat?06:10
neverstablebut i wnt from live cd like in knowpix06:10
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neverstableexit06:10
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paringasnot in installed, but i think i've got bluetooth.o rfcomm.o sco.o though06:10
dr_willisrobert,  get live cd that has qt_parted or some other tool to do the job and resize the partitions.06:11
|QuaD-_paringas: i do not use bluetooth, but i believe you need the bluez package06:11
robertooh06:11
dr_willisHeh - i cant even find my bluetooth dongle adaptor.06:11
robertcant i do it thru windows, using partion magic?06:11
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dr_willisrobert,  you could.. but if you had partition magic and thoguth it could do it. :P why did you ask.. lol.06:12
paringas|QuaD-_: so what's the algorithm of getting it? apt-get? recompile? there seems to be no /proc/config06:12
dr_willisPartition Magic may not like the ext3 partions however.06:12
robertbecuase last time i tried to partition sometin i nearly messed up my whole compuer06:12
carsoncparingas: the package gnome-bluetooth might also be helpful (dunno, though, don't use bluetooth)06:12
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|QuaD-_paringas: algorithm? hehe.... i would use apt-cache search bluetooth... then use that information to get what you need06:13
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paringas|QuaD-_: sorry, i'm new to debian so i'm acting a bit dumb :) after using gentoo's portage06:14
icemanwhats best way to get a mac look in kde ?06:14
_nate__use gnome06:14
|QuaD-_iceman: i don't use kde, but i remember there being a mac look and feel06:14
_nate__and get macosx theme06:15
dr_willisrobert,  heh - it pays to be carefull.06:15
benplautwell, g'bye everyone06:15
benplautoff to see EPIII06:15
icemanhate lacking icons in gnome ... got to have the icons on screen06:15
|QuaD-_lacking icons in gnome? eh?06:15
carsonciceman: So drag them from the menu to the desktop?06:15
dr_willisIcons on the desktop? that sooo 1995.06:15
paringasbtw, is there a way to get xterm to display in one of the opera's tabs? sorry for dumb questions again06:16
icemanwhats a link to gnome look06:16
Aegiriceman, Apart from theming, and getting apps like kxdocker and ksmooth dock, you can set up a mac style top bar. Thats what I use at the moment, however I use the KDE classic style for a bit of Debian Stable nostaliga06:16
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dr_willisparingas,  thats a new idea. :P06:16
carsoncparingas: as I recall, there used to be a netscape plugin that would let you embed a xnest'd X session in a web page06:16
Aegiriceman, Just google gnome look. Youll find it almost instantly06:16
carsoncthis has been a good four or so years ago, though06:17
_nate__iceman: you can add icons to the bar on gnome, there's no lack of icons06:17
icemanwhats a app simular to superkaramba for gnome ?06:17
paringascarsonc: thanks06:17
Aegiriceman, for the top bar: KDE Control center -> Desktop -> Behavior -> Menu bar at top of screen06:18
AegirAlso, gDesklets does the same job as superkaramba06:18
icemanAegir let me load gnome .. brb06:18
OSStigeris there a way i could download a  file which mplayer usually plays within firefox?06:19
dr_willisOSStiger, right click.. save link as.....06:19
OSStigerdr_willis, there's no link. It's an embedded file.06:19
paringas|QuaD-_: apt-cache search bluetooth came up with nothing? what do i do? :)06:19
_nate__screenshot of my desktop: http://img182.echo.cx/my.php?image=screenshot4tv.png06:19
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dr_willisOSStiger,  how are you getting to it?06:20
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|QuaD-_paringas: odd, i got a lot of responses to it06:20
dr_willisOSStiger,  could use wget on theurl to the file06:20
_nate__Aegir: what?06:20
icemanAagir .. well resolution sucks .. wheres the settings in gnome ?06:20
_nate__iceman: http://img182.echo.cx/my.php?image=screenshot4tv.png06:20
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_nate__check my ss06:20
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iceman_nate__ nice look there06:21
_nate__iceman: yeah, macosx theme under gnome06:21
iceman_nate__ that a easy install ?06:22
paringas*maaan, it's really a pain to be using a touchpad*06:22
AegirOh, and get Kompose.06:22
AegirSeriously. Kompose rocks06:22
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AegirTheres Expocity for Gnome, but it sucks06:23
carsoncparingas:  Dunno what you need it for, but check out http://www.mindterm.com/products/80_MindTerm/index.php06:23
OSStigerdr_willis, well, i'm doing it the oldfashioned, but a bit inconvenient way, of opening source, then opening it in fx, then File->Save as.06:23
_nate__iceman: yeah, really really easy install06:23
randeywhat is ubuntu selinux channel?06:23
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_nate__iceman: just a matter of copying files to a few directories and then selecting the theme06:24
|QuaD-_randey: i don't think there is an ubuntu selinux yet06:24
icemanwhere does gnome have the setting for screen resolution ... my sucks right now06:24
AegirOr dragging the theme tarball to the theme manager, where it installsit automaticlly06:24
|QuaD-_iceman: thats an X setting06:24
_nate__iceman: System>preferences>screen resolution06:24
icemanlost here ... sec06:25
_nate__Aegir: not sure that works, man06:25
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_nate__Aegir: I installed it how the readme said to06:25
icemanwell cant adjust it ... already at 1024x768 ...06:25
icemanIs there a way to adjust ico size ?06:26
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_nate__iceman: yeah, i had that beef for a while, but my screen is designed for 1024x76806:26
_nate__iceman: adjust the bar size06:26
dr_willisthats what will be nice when the svg type icons and stuff get more common. :P looks good at any size06:26
icemanon desktop icons size ?06:26
BR0KENicons should not reside on the desktop.06:26
_nate__oh, no idea06:27
dr_willisBR0KEN,  heh i agree :P for the most part.06:27
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_nate__BR0KEN: I concur06:27
kikdadoghelp i need an ubuntu genius06:27
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glickhey ubuntu xfce4 does it use rox-filer? as the file manager?06:27
_nate__kikdadog: you will find no such thing here, only people with ideas06:27
BR0KENyeah06:27
kikdadoga guru would do06:27
BR0KENlol nate06:27
dr_willisglick,  yes - it can be installed.06:27
icemanok .. wheres the mac theme located ? for download ?06:27
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BR0KENmac theme?06:27
kikdadoghaving a hard time burning an iso image06:28
BR0KENfor gnome?06:28
aevumhello06:28
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dr_willisthers several uGLY mac themes at the varois gnome theme sites06:28
glickdr_willis, if you just do apt-get install xfce4 what one does it use rox or xfce4 one?06:28
_nate__iceman: i can't remember where, so i'm uploading it right now for download06:28
carsoncglick: I believe it uses xffm06:28
BR0KENgnome looks great with clearlooks.06:28
_nate__dr_willis: I found the good one06:28
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Aegir_nate__, Quite often, if a theme/iconset is in a .tar.gz, you can just drag the .tar.gz into gnome-theme-manager.06:28
paringascarsonc: i like to use opera for as much stuff at the same time as possible (irc,im,web,xterm...) - just seems convenient to me not to have all sorts of windows open everywhere. but that's just me.06:28
_nate__dr_willis: http://img182.echo.cx/my.php?image=screenshot4tv.png06:28
iceman_nate__ thanks ..06:28
dr_willisglick,  i think the other day  the default file manager ICON wanted rox. but it comes with xffm :P06:28
nichcould someone help me by telling what would cause gnome-session to stop working after a upgrade from warty to hoary and how I could possibly fix it?06:28
yahalomanyone know how i can get a boot screen?06:28
_nate__iceman: np06:28
Madpiloticeman: have a look around here: http://www.gnome-look.org/06:29
_nate__Aegir: yes, but i tend to follow how the theme instructions tell you to install06:29
BR0KENgnome icons could look a little more sleek but..ya know..at least they don't look tacky like the plastik look.06:29
Aevumhello06:29
Aegir_nate__, Each to his own, but the automated install does the exact same thing.06:29
Aevumi have a question, i installed ubunto on my machine06:29
carsoncnich: "stop working" how?  Are you able to log in from GDM at all?06:29
andres_frhondje, so how should i make enlightment work?06:30
Aevumand at no point did it ask me for the root password06:30
Aegir_nate__, Provided the automated installer works in the first place ;), it can be a bit picky somtimes06:30
Aevumand now im locked out of my machine basicly, only user account06:30
hondjeandres_fr: I had to download from cvs and compile it all myself06:30
dr_willisI like the Gartoon Icons :P06:30
AegirAevum, sudp passwd root06:30
Aegir*sudo06:30
nichcarsonc: I manage to get in GDM06:30
andres_frhondje, and it looks like the screenshots?06:30
hondjenot too bad unless you don't have a lot of the -dev apps, then it's a lot of junk06:30
hondjeyeah, it actually does...I even played videos with emotion thing06:30
andres_frhondje, for me it boots fine, but i dont see menus or anything06:30
_nate__Aegir: yeah, but following the directions is usually a good idea06:30
icemanMadpilot one listed but download link broke06:30
dr_willisAevum,  thats how it works.. the first users password is also the roots password.. and you normally DONT login as root.06:30
hybridanyone know if there is something like gaim but cli06:31
nichthough if I select a Gnome session it will not work (mouse etal still work, but it won't do anything besides showing me the brown background)06:31
hondjehybrid: pork, maybe06:31
BR0KENthe clearlooks controls make the grey look too red.06:31
AevumDr_willis, i know the dangers of using root, but i need to mount my ntfs partition to pick up a couple of things from there, and i need to apply some updates06:31
BR0KENso i use mist controls with clearlooks.06:31
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glickhow do i convert a xwd data dump into a jpeg?06:32
AegirAevum, Just run sudo passwd root in a console, then enter your normal users pass, then do the whole password/confirm thing. Then you will have a working root password. This will allow you to do things that specifically require a root password. Like the Wine install script. However, using sudo is the best option.06:32
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Aevumso the same password as i set for the first user is also the password for root ?06:32
dr_willisAevum,  the Ubuntu way is to "sudo' what you need to do.. not login a root.. or you can always do some other way to get a root shell..06:32
nichcarsonc: when I tried getting in with the failsafe terminal (or whatever it is called there), I tried typing "gnome-session" to see if I could start from there and it failed...06:32
nichloaded the slash, but no more06:32
Aegir'sudo su' is good to get a proper root shell06:32
dr_willisAevum,  yes. the faq/wikis cover this.. Some say its over the top paranoia.06:32
dr_willissudo xterm :P06:32
nichsudo bash06:33
_nate__Aevum: "sudo -s" will give you a root shell06:33
icemannice look here .. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=16671&file1=16671-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=osx-like06:33
dr_willisor just sudo passwd - and get it back to the way otehr disrtos do it.06:33
AegirI think we buried him with advice :D06:33
Aevumdone, thank you and sorry for bothering you06:33
Madpiloticeman: is that the one that the d06:33
AegirNo worries ;)06:33
Madpiloticeman: gah... meant to say: is that the one the d/l link is broken for?06:34
icemanno .. thats just a screenshot ..06:34
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BR0KENwow..the gperfection icon theme is exactly what i was looking for.06:34
BR0KENswseeet06:34
carsoncnich:  I had that problem at one point after X had crashed on me06:34
abisenhow can i play mp3 on my ubuntu06:34
flex_its a ubuntu linux room06:34
carsoncnich: But a reboot fixed it, for what it's worth06:34
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kikdadoganybody help..............06:35
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flex_nice06:35
carsoncnich: Reboot probably wasn't necessary, probably some script in /etc/init.d cleaning up temporary files06:35
penticlexahhhhhh.... people06:35
dr_willisabisen,  the ubuntu wikis tell you detialed info.. or ubuntuguide.org (but use the wikis first)06:35
penticlexthat talk06:35
flex_this is a nice distro its only one cd06:35
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nichcarsonc: I rebooted quite a few times now... no luck yet :/06:35
carsoncnich: Otherwise you might try removing your ~/.gnome2 and trying to log back in06:35
_nate__iceman: my upload failed, oops06:35
nichokie... I'll check that possibility06:35
_nate__iceman: reuploading06:36
abisenthanks06:36
iceman_nate__ lol :) humm ... like is just a screenshot ...06:36
penticlexso is it better to compile java or to get the packages. if there are any06:36
glickhey where can i post a desktop screenshot?06:36
kikdadogk heres the output from gnomebaker      cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler06:37
kikdadogcdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().06:37
jeff255penticlex, get the packages!!!06:37
_nate__glick: www.imageshack.us06:37
kikdadogany ideas06:37
nichbtw, should SESSION_MANAGER say "local"?06:37
nichis that right?06:37
_nate__iceman: its a 25 MB .tar.gz for the mac osx theme06:37
carsoncnich: that's what mine says06:37
_nate__iceman: that screenshot link you posted, i think he's using something called baghira06:37
cafuego_nate__: MacOS X theme?06:37
_nate__iceman: you should look it up06:37
penticlexok I'll try the packages this time so why packages??06:38
_nate__cafuego: yep06:38
icemanheres one ... http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=19522&file1=19522-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=another+osx-like+desktop06:38
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nichhmkay06:38
hondjeAnyone good with firefox problemos?06:38
_nate__cafuego: wait until its uploaded, i'll post the link06:38
penticlexsure but I havent had a problem so far06:38
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cafuego_nate__: Cool, thankyou. Also on behalf of my wife, whose iBook i won't need to steal anymore06:38
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_nate__iceman: look up baghira, thats what that guy's using, i believe06:39
fazerHello, anyone here familliar with hdparm?06:39
hondjeletters just get thrown around the page almost randomly, most sites06:39
_nate__cafuego: lol, you might want to google baghira, its built to make linux look like a mac, even more than the theme06:39
hondjefazer: Sure, what's up?06:39
Madpilotanother eyecandy question: is there any way to replace the little Gnome foot in the top-left corner with an Ubuntu circle?06:39
icemanno google or gnomelook hits06:40
kikdadogcome on folks ive been on and off this stinkin channel for 3 days, not one stinkin lick of help06:40
_nate__iceman: gimme a second06:40
cafuego_nate__: Hmm, that's KDE though.06:40
kikdadogunless we talk fonts06:40
_nate__cafuego: baghira is?06:40
cafuegokikdadog: Your user account has no permission on the cdrw/dvdrw device. Add yourself to the correct group.06:40
kikdadogwala06:40
_nate__cafuego: oopsy :)06:40
cafuego_nate__: Looks that way, yes.06:40
kikdadogk how to do it06:41
fazerhondje: Yeah, I am trying to configure my Lappy with it, still no luck.06:41
_nate__cafuego: ahhhh06:41
cafuegokikdadog: ls -l /dev/hdX (whtever device the burner is) and 'adduser <user> <group>'06:41
hondjefazer: in what, /etc/hdparm.conf?06:41
cafuego_nate__: Pretty, though.06:41
kikdadoggod bless you06:41
cafuegokikdadog: I can't bless myself, it's not right.06:42
kikdadog:)06:42
cafuegokikdadog: After adding yourself to that group, you must logout and log back in.06:42
kikdadogk06:42
fazerhondje: oh no, just simply issuing the commands and then typing the -tT parameter to see of any changes.06:42
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hondjeoh, okay...so where are you getting stuck, fazer ?06:42
fazerhondje: Well, I am not being able to increase the speed basically.06:43
cafuegofazer: 'hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/hdX'06:43
fazerhondje: I have 160 MB of RAM currently and got a bigger (newer) hard dist.06:43
cafuegofazer: Does that print any errors?06:43
desrtbye bye breezy06:43
fazercafuego: trying i tnow.06:43
_nate__cafuego: iceman: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/06:43
desrtcafuego; hello.06:43
transgressokay umm my gnome just died06:43
cafuego_nate__: yeah06:43
fazercafuego: no errors that I can see.06:43
hondjefazer: as long as you did the obvious stuff, like -d1 -c3 and -mX, where X is the right number, that's all you can get06:43
_nate__cafuego: iceman: looks like baghira is only for kde, oops :)06:44
transgressi booted my laptop, and gnome won't boot06:44
hondjeOn my primary hdd, I only get like 2% on avg gain06:44
transgressi log in through gdm, and it just sits there like it is waiting to start gnome... failsafe gnome doesn't work either06:44
cafuegofazer: Ok, then DMA is now enabled. What speed does 'hdparm -t' report?06:44
Aevumthats nice, i cant mount an NTFS partition now06:44
fazercafuego: I believe Linux already enables DMA upon installation or atlest upon reboot.06:44
transgressanyone have some suggestions?06:44
fazerhondje: do you know where I can figure out which values I need to give hdparm?06:44
fazercafuego: Timing buffered disk reads:   34 MB in  3.04 seconds =  11.19 MB/sec06:45
hondjefazer: There really aren't a whole lot... hdparm -i /dev/hdX will give you the correct value for c, d and m...the rest don't do much on their own06:45
cafuegofazer: Then you _really_ don't want to dig around with hdparm, you're more likely to destroy the disk than to gain speed.06:45
_nate__cafuego: iceman: http://xpedition.mine.nu/linux/macosx.tar.gz06:45
icemanwhere to import hte png files to ..06:45
_nate__there ya go :)06:45
cafuego_nate__: Downlaoding, cheers :-)06:46
ice_1963i love ubuntu i have ben installing software all day and playing whith it :o)06:46
fazercafuego: oh, that is never good.06:46
_nate__cafuego: iceman: also, to get mac osx look and feel: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19714&forummode=2&forumpage=1&forumexplevel=206:46
transgresshey would anyone care to send me a message on aim to see if i receive it?06:46
cafuegofazer: What speed does it report at the moment?06:46
transgressmy sn is effofffcc06:46
fazercafuego: for buffered dis reads?06:47
fazerTiming buffered disk reads:   34 MB in  3.04 seconds =  11.19 MB/sec06:47
iceman_nate__ how to save the file ?06:47
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iceman_nate__ now how to install06:48
_nate__iceman: extract it then follow the readme file06:49
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glickhey whats the dos command to up all your net interfaces?06:50
radixis there some fancy GUI tool in the default desktop stuff that lets me mount the NTFS filesystem on my harddrive?06:50
radixthe panel applet "disk mounter" is only showing floppy and cdrom06:51
glickhey whatchu think of my desktop06:51
glickhttp://img261.echo.cx/my.php?image=screen4en.jpg06:51
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transgressokay so doesn't anyone have some suggestions for me to get gnome to start up again?  it hangs before the point where the music would play and stuff would show up06:52
_nate__transgress: check dmesg and look for errors06:52
erm13Ok I definitly have a problem06:52
_nate__glick: pretty, is that enlightenment?06:53
glick_nate__, xfce406:53
iceman_nate__ cant find fdm folder ?06:53
_nate__glick: no kiddin?06:53
_nate__iceman: its actually gdm, they made a typo06:53
erm13I somehow removed myslef from the sudoer group06:53
andres_frglick, cluttered for me06:53
_nate__glick: i need to try that, thats pretty.06:53
erm13and the root account wasnt enabled06:53
erm13so I can use synaptic or anything06:53
glickandres_fr, yeah i use multi virtual desktops06:53
penticlexdownloading java packages now. yay06:54
erm13cant*06:54
glickbut i wanted people to see what the theme looke on all my stuff06:54
_nate__erm13: hosed, i think06:54
erm13lol me too06:54
_nate__glick: ever try enlightenment?06:54
erm13enlightenment is pretty nice06:54
transgress_nate__: nothing06:54
glick_nate__, yeah a long time ago06:54
_nate__what wm does everyone use?  And why? (besides basic metacity)06:54
transgressand failsafe gnome doesn't even work06:55
_nate__transgress: what did you do just prior to it getting totally messed up?06:55
penticlexthis package manager actually works. its so cool!!!!  I am used to installing every thing by compiling them.06:55
_nate__penticlex: welcome to modern linux :)06:55
transgress_nate__: umm iuno... i talked on aim last night, and that was about it.  then i booted it up today and it was like "NO!"06:55
iceman_nate__ do you have to create the folder gtk+metacity ?06:56
transgressexcept it was a silent no... no errors or anything... just hangs06:56
penticlexI feal dirty you said AIM....06:56
ice_1963freeBsd06:56
penticlexARGGGGG I said it!!!!106:56
_nate__iceman: let me check, i'll give you the commands06:56
erm13exit06:56
transgresspenticlex: i loathe it, but it's the only messenger my girl uses06:56
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transgresssomething goofy is going on though... because it is taking xfce4 about 5+ minutes to open a terminal06:57
penticlexI was just giving you a hard time I have to use it cause my grandma.. :(06:57
transgressbut other stuff is running fine06:57
penticlexthats all she knows06:57
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imaekIs there any way that I could get an image for a movie (A poster, dvd box, etc) that would not be infringing copyright stuff?06:58
penticlexwow and its so fast06:58
transgressi try to stick with jabber06:58
penticlexit already done06:58
cafuegoimaek: Buy it.06:58
imaekErm.06:58
imaekWhat if I have it?06:58
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penticlexbrb have to reboot06:58
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ice_1963wheeeeeee06:59
hondjeAny of you fine gentlemen use firefox and korean on your desktop and have massively bad rendering from firefox?06:59
cafuegoNo, my main problem with korean is that I can't read or understand it either way.07:00
hondjeYeah, I share that problem07:00
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hondjeBut then certain family members get all 'hey, I want to see that thar internet'....07:01
fazercafuego: how do I select a higher UDMA mode?07:01
fazerI can't seem to understand that from the man page07:01
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don-ohow do i select gcc 4.0 as the default c compiler?07:02
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penticlexstill have to link it in java I see.07:03
penticlexto firefox07:04
penticlexits still faster07:05
penticlexwow every one leaving07:05
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_nate__server split07:06
_nate__i think07:06
_nate__or not07:06
Madpilotjust a little one, though...07:06
_nate__not enough left07:06
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squareyeshow many do you need ? :-)07:07
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Madpilotso, does anyone know where Gnome keeps it's default desktop images? I'd like to give the foot the boot... :)07:07
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fazerWhat is the point of /etc/rc*.d/* directories?07:09
fazerand how would I go about making one?07:09
glickxfce4 rox!07:09
goldfishfazer: they are to do with runlevels07:11
goldfishand startup scripts07:11
penticlexwhere is java installed w/ the packages??????07:12
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penticlexnot in user/java like I htaught07:12
goldfishpenticlex: where did u download the .bin file to ?07:12
BR0KENhow do i choose a different splash image in gconf editor?07:12
_nate__glick: do i need to install xfce or xfce4?07:13
penticlexnot bin file installed package07:13
goldfishi see07:14
goldfish_nate__: xfce407:14
shanonfazer: You wouldn't "make" a rc*.d directory but you can add scripts to them that will stop or start something when linux moves into that runlevel07:14
BR0KENanyone know about splash screen?07:14
BR0KENthe directions for it at gnomelook aren't very specific07:14
glicknate xfce407:14
BR0KENgperfection is the sweetest icon theme ever.07:14
goldfishpenticlex: 'locate java' maybe....07:14
glick_nate__, xfce407:14
penticlexw/ synaptic was trying the package on this install07:14
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penticlexI think I found it in user/lib/java07:15
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andres_frwhat can i make to make skype look a bit better in gnome07:15
phxguyjbailey you here???07:15
andres_frwhy isnt' it themed?07:15
fazershanon: ah I see, I think I am happy with some of my hdparm settings , how do I make it so that those settings are set when I boot up?07:16
hondjefazer: /etc/hdparm.conf07:16
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shanonfazer: There is a special file for that07:16
shanonfazer: As hondje said07:16
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fazerAah, thank you!07:17
squareyesis it possible to have gkrellm open auto when I pon for my dial up??07:18
penticlexI dont see libjavaplugin?????????????????07:18
hondjeThat's a lot of ?'s07:18
terasurferWell it was a pretty big question...i think07:19
_nate__how do i select xfce?07:19
penticlexnot sure if I missed the main package07:19
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penticlexi would feel dumb07:20
terasurferpenticlex: what exactly are you trying to do?07:20
_nate__anyone?07:20
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_nate__no one?07:20
fazershanon: like, if I typed the following in the command-line:  hdparm -X66 -d1 -u1 -m16 -c3 -i -v  /dev/hda, can I just type the same line in hdparm.conf?07:20
terasurferfazer: no07:21
uc50_ic4morenate - FWIW - i believe it is xfce407:21
hondje_nate__: to install it, just apt-get install xfce407:21
_nate__its installed, how do i select it?07:21
fazerterasurfer: oh...what would be the correct method?07:21
hondjeunder session in gdm07:21
penticlextrying to install the package for java07:21
penticlexfeeling dumb07:21
_nate__hondje: ummm, how?07:21
terasurferi don't know the exact syntax for your args, but here's an entry in mine as an example:07:21
_nate__hondje: oh, right, nvm,07:21
hondje:)07:21
StalagnaAnyone have an really good sites for tutorials?07:21
terasurfer/dev/hdc {07:21
terasurfer        write_cache = on07:21
terasurfer        dma = on07:21
terasurfer        transfer_mode = 6807:21
terasurfer        interrupt_unmask = on07:21
terasurfer        io32_support = 307:22
terasurfer}07:22
_nate__Stalagna: www.ubuntulinux.org07:22
_nate__Stalagna: click07:22
_nate__Stalagna: Wiki07:22
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fazerterasurfer: oh, I see, thanks.07:22
Stalagnathanks07:22
terasurfernp07:22
_nate__Stalagna: np07:22
fazerterasurfer: Hmm, I was wondering that because one of the default commented values had hdparm as the command.07:23
uc50_ic4moreor more accurately, humbly submitted:07:23
uc50_ic4morehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/07:23
penticlexi think its from talking to stupid people all day dropped my IQ below 1007:23
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transgress_ah to have gnome back07:23
transgress_it is nice07:23
transgress_lost all my preferences though07:23
fazerterasurfer: I think it was in the command_line {} statement07:23
rj`is there a decent video mplayer for linux with a gtk interface that supports queuing videos.07:23
fazerso, wait, I can turn on dma on cdroms as well?07:23
terasurferyes07:24
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fazerterasurfer: oh, neat.07:24
fazerhm, neat  I am going to reboot and see if it worked.07:24
terasurferrj: have you tried VLC?07:24
fazerlater.07:24
terasurfercya07:24
terasurfergl07:25
shanonfazer: sudo cat /proc/ide/hdc/settings07:25
fazerthanks07:25
rj`terasurfer: thought about it -- im in breezy atm and it's a broken package07:25
fazershanon: What woul that show me?07:25
shanonfazer: Assuming hdc is your cdrom07:25
fazershanon: Oh07:25
shanonfazer: all the current settings for your cdrom and what they can be set to07:25
uc50_ic4moredoes anyone know when we expect a Flash plugin for x64?07:25
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Cy|HyperHello07:25
Cy|HyperI just installed Ubuntu today07:26
uc50_ic4morealso (this is my fist day w/ ubuntu) how does one install WINE?07:26
fazershanon: ooh, yeah, the value for using_mda is 0 and the max is 1.07:26
_nate__uc50_ic4more: very carefully07:26
Cy|HyperI am having problems with WEP and wireless networking07:26
uc50_ic4morethat was given, _nate__! :)07:26
glick_nate__, in the termnal do sudo apt-get install xfce407:26
terasurferuc50: sudo apt-get wine07:26
terasurfererr apt-get install07:27
_nate__Cy|Hyper: Yeah, i tried using gnome's tools for configuring my wireless and it hosed it07:27
_nate__glick: i already have it :)07:27
Cy|HyperNate, how do I solve the problem?07:27
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hondjegeezo, there should be a package that has some less-dumb default for scim to add other input methods07:27
fazershanon: i will brb07:27
glicki tried ubuntu but i had to switch back to debian07:27
glickubuntu was a little too unstable for me07:28
uc50_ic4moreterasurfer - forgive my ignorance, but apt-et installs and configures all of the dependcies? from source? i am coming from FreeBSD and the ports....07:28
_nate__Cy|Hyper: I dunno, I had to reinstall aroudn then anyways, so it works for me now07:28
Cy|HyperGrr07:28
hondjeuc50_ic4more: it does 99% of the work for you07:28
terasurferuc50: it will install and configure binaries07:28
andres_frglick, unstable? really?07:28
_nate__glick: wow, ubuntu has been more stable for me than any distro i've tried07:28
hondjeSometimes it wants your opinion w/ 2 or 3 choices07:28
Cy|HyperBecause I've tried about 19 things I have found about it07:28
Cy|HyperAnd no luck07:28
glickandres_fr, yeah alot of weird things happened07:29
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_nate__Cy|Hyper: Wish I could help07:29
glicksome how at random times my dns would break07:29
uc50_ic4morehondje, terasurfer - thanks!07:29
glickwhen i compiled a custom kernel07:29
hondjeNot enough to make me bail back to debian, but some are really irksome07:29
hondjeuc50_ic4more: no problem07:29
glickthe init scripts would no longer bring up my interface07:29
glickand a coupla of other things07:29
glickbut those where the main things07:30
terasurferglick: perhaps you forgot to compile in support for some devices used by those scripts07:30
glickterasurfer, nah that kernel works perfectly for me on debian07:30
andres_frglick, 4 weeks up downloading at 250kb/s with azureus, PIV 1.7 with 128!!!Mb ram, now i have 4 4gb torrents open and a hell lot of smaller ones, and i can still use the pc07:30
Cy|HyperHmmm, found something07:30
Cy|HyperI'll BRB07:30
hondjeHalf the time I reboot, I have to rerun the nvidia install script before gdm will run07:30
r0dtotem cant play audio, or movies. how do i fix?07:30
uc50_ic4moretersaurfer, hondje? perhaps i cam out of the loop on a x64? i get the following error when i apt-get install wine:07:30
uc50_ic4moreReading package lists... Done07:30
uc50_ic4moreBuilding dependency tree... Done07:30
uc50_ic4morePackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:30
uc50_ic4moreThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:30
uc50_ic4moreis only available from another source07:30
glickandres_fr, yeah but on the surface its stable but once you start doing non-common stuff07:30
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uc50_ic4moreE: Package wine has no installation candidate07:30
glicklike compiling kernels07:30
andres_frr0d, use xine, or get libmad and the gstreamer plguins07:31
hondjeuc50_ic4more: that means you didn't pick the right name07:31
andres_frglick, got it07:31
hondjeuc50_ic4more: like wine vs wine-2.4 or something07:31
andres_fror wine*07:31
hondjeuc50_ic4more: apt-cache search <keyword> is what I'd use07:31
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glicki had to use a custom kernel to support my external firewire drive cause non of the stock kernels supported it properly cause it has a non standard controller chip so it kept b0rking in large data transfers and freezing the sytem07:31
uc50_ic4morecrap... ok - thank you - i will ascertain the latest stable release with the search function07:32
glickso i had my custum kernel which fixed the issue07:32
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andres_frglick, talking about that, is there a way to make my 1.1 usb drive to work?07:32
hondjeuc50_ic4more: do you have universe in /etc/apt/sources.list?07:32
hondjeuc50_ic4more: That's hwere I have it, apt-get install wine would have worked for me07:32
glickandres_fr, whats not working on it?07:32
andres_frglick, all of it :p07:33
andres_frdoesnt mount or anything07:33
terasurferglick: is it possible that you selected some components with different combinations of built in/modules compared to what the inits were expecting?07:33
glickhow do you mount it?07:33
uc50_ic4morenot at the moment, i do not, but i could... i just would not have thunk that WINE would be there... mind u, i only read over how the packages are arranged very quickly....07:33
andres_fri dont know how to07:33
andres_frglick, it just says (dmesg | tail) new full speed usb device on.....07:33
glickterasurfer, perhapse but the scripts should be more generic and test for these conditions07:33
andres_frand nothing more07:33
glickandreas mesg me07:33
hondjeuc50_ic4more: yeah, same here...I ended up just adding multiverse, universe and restricted to save some hastle :)07:33
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uc50_ic4morewill do07:34
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BR0KENwhat is "ximian desktop" powered by ubuntu?07:34
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BR0KENhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=18179&file1=18179-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Pixel+Girl07:35
BR0KENoh hell yes07:35
hondjeNice07:35
radix:P07:35
andres_frvery nice07:36
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BR0KEN:)07:36
AegirHahah07:36
AegirNice07:36
BR0KENbut i don't understand the ximian/ubuntu thing. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2414307:36
BR0KENwhat do the two have to do with each other.07:36
hondjenothing afaik07:36
AegirAhh, thats the style of login/bootscreen that Ximian came up with. NLD and SuSE use it now (Which Ximian have a large role in)07:37
jiyuu0Fresh from oven...07:37
AegirXimian make nice stuff07:37
jiyuu0New Release: UbuntuGuide Add-On-CD (27th May 2005)07:37
jiyuu0http://ubuntuguide.org/add-on-cd07:37
jiyuu0Changes:07:37
jiyuu0http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=191197&postcount=4607:37
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transgress_where do gdm themes go again?07:37
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AegirDunno07:38
AegirIll find out shortly07:38
hondjesystem -> admin -> login07:38
andres_frtransgress, just select install theme?07:38
hondjethen graphical greeter tab, and install new theme07:38
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AegirYeap07:38
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AegirThats it07:38
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AegirNow, to start Xnest and see it in action...07:39
EnkiduI'm getting an error when booting from a kernel i just made: <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!07:39
AegirAhh hondje, what would we do without you? ;)07:39
Aegir(You were typing that out just as I was clicking through the login screen setup, nice timing ;) )07:40
hondjeProbably go find another troll in #debian :)07:40
BR0KENat the rate ubuntu is going, it is going to rival windows in no time in terms of a desktop OS that Joe Blow can operate.07:40
BR0KENi'm blown away by ubuntu.07:40
Cy|HyperUbuntu is awesome07:40
BR0KENi think it should use the gperfection icon theme by default though.07:40
Cy|HyperExcept for the WEP07:40
hondjeI dunno, people cry a lot about having to rtfm to install java....07:40
Cy|HyperI need help with WEP07:40
BR0KENi'm just saying, it's getting there.07:40
uc50_ic4morehaha - Cy|Hyper - no one did end up answering your query about WEP eh?07:40
Cy|HyperI'm looking all over the place, but I can't find anything07:41
Cy|HyperNope07:41
BR0KENubuntu has come out of nowhere to destroy all other competitors in its class.07:41
Cy|HyperNot even Google07:41
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EnkiduDoes anyone know what causes that error? I'm having so much trouble doing such a simple thing as compiling a new kernel...at least it should be easier than ubuntu is making it07:41
BR0KENnothing even comparies.07:41
BR0KENcompares07:41
yahalomanyone know how i skins to beep media player?07:41
hondjewell, I wouldn't say it's destroying competition, SuSE's latest is hella nice on laptops, blew me away07:41
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sonet11hiiiiiiiiiiii07:42
hondjeBut it is a great desktop OS, my gripes are few and far between07:42
uc50_ic4moreyour router does not support WPA? what specifically is your issue?07:42
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yahalomhondje, suse not free anymore at all?07:45
hondjeyahalom: No, it's not07:45
yahalomhondje, that sux07:45
hondjeIt does, though I'm quite happy to pay money for something I want/need07:46
yahalomhondje, well if it works07:46
Cy|Hyperuc50, asking me?07:46
yahalomhondje, other os charge u money and they dont work :)07:46
Cy|HyperIt's set to WEP07:46
Cy|HyperAnd it screws everything up to go to something else07:47
hondje:)07:47
BR0KENSOMEOne has got to come up with a way to do multi-user logins like winXP and OSX in Ubuntu.07:47
bob2it's trivial07:47
BR0KENthe average user, including me, thinks it is ridiculous to have to choose "new login".07:47
bob2and already done07:47
BR0KENit's done?07:47
Cy|HyperYeah07:47
BR0KENhow?07:47
Cy|HyperIt is07:47
bob2gdmflexiserver does that07:47
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bob2there's just no useful UI for it07:48
yahalombob2, any point in getting it?07:48
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toxicfum1can someone please help me with my display problems with ubuntu on my laptop?07:48
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BR0KENbob2 but how can i set the gdm to spawn the new login on a different xserver, as well as make sure that when the screen goes to screen saver, it reverts to gdm?07:48
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Cy|HyperANyway, I need the WEP solved07:48
bob2BR0KEN: I don't know07:48
BR0KENbob2  can i, right now, implement this or not?07:48
bob2as I said, it's possible, but there's no ui for it07:48
bob2BR0KEN: of course07:48
yahalomtoxicfume, whats the prob?07:48
Enkiduis there a channel speciffically for kernel questions?07:48
hondjeThat fast user switching app is pretty nice, I just built it tonight07:48
hondjeconvenient for me :)07:49
BR0KENhondje what?07:49
bob2Enkidu: if you're not a developer, here is the right channel07:49
BR0KENhodgman you are being funny right?07:49
hondjeNo, I'm not07:49
Enkidubob2, either noone saw my question or noone knows how to answer it tho07:49
BR0KENbob2 could there be any consideration to using gperfection icon theme in ubuntu soon?07:49
toxicfumeyahalom: well X server would just not display..i tried following this guide: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto and een after that..at start up, X server says it couldn't load X properly ..and shows me the log, thats it07:49
BR0KENit's dramatically better than the current gnome icon theme.07:49
hondjeIt's quite nice, I was thinking about rolling up a package for it07:49
cyphaseLooking for a good name for an IM client. Anyone have any suggestions?07:50
BR0KENhondje you wrote an app to do this?07:50
BR0KENgaim07:50
Cy|HyperI'm actually amazed how easy Ubuntu in general is07:50
BR0KENcyphase gaim gaim gaim07:50
hondjeBR0KEN: No, not at all07:50
yahalomtoxicfume, show me ur log. ubuntu.pastebin.com07:50
cyphaselol07:50
BR0KENcyphase and get off-the-record encryption plugin.07:50
cyphaseBROKEN, a ned name07:50
Cy|HyperApache2 installed with incredible ease07:50
cyphasenew*07:50
toxicfumeyahalom: but how do i paste thelog when i can't get into X? :S07:50
hondjeBR0KEN: http://ignore-your.tv/fusa/07:50
bob2BR0KEN: "dramatically better" is of course subjective.  it could be proposed if it's Free and everything07:50
yahalomtoxicfume, oh junk07:50
cyphaseBROKEN, i use Gaim, but i need a name for a new client07:50
yahalomtoxicfume sry07:50
imaekHow can I connect my iPod if there isn't a /dev/sdc207:50
hondjeI just want to see /dev/shm mounted noexec07:50
imaek?07:50
yahalomtoxicfume, did u read the log?07:50
toxicfumeyahalom: hehe, np07:50
BR0KENi think the algorithms hardwired into the average human brain would, in most cases cause just about anyone to think gperfection looks better.07:51
BR0KENit's way more slick.07:51
toxicfumeyahalom: yes i read..and there are warnings about folders not existing i think07:51
Cy|HyperI have other problems, too, but I'll ask when I'm on my regular PC07:51
bob2BR0KEN: screenshot url?07:51
yahalomtoxicfume, did u do a server install?07:51
toxicfumeyahalom: should i type out the warning lines? I could do that07:51
toxicfumeyahalom: no07:51
BR0KENbob2 one sec07:51
bob2Enkidu: you get that error using the default kernel?07:51
yahalomtoxicfume, one sec07:51
toxicfumeyahalom: alright07:52
BR0KENhttp://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=120 <-- bob2 second highest rated.07:52
imaekHow can I get my iPod to work with gtkpod when there isn't a /dev/sdc2 ?07:52
yahalomtoxicfume, query me with the lines07:52
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Cy|HyperBRB07:52
Enkidubob2, no i get that using a kernel that i built with the default options...straight from the kernel that comes with ubuntu07:52
toxicfumeyahalom: okay, let me boot my laptop into ubuntuand read them07:52
bob2Enkidu: so, the default kernel works fine?07:52
yahalomtoxicfume, ok07:52
BR0KENbob2 notice how it doesn't look all shiny like plastik, but still looks more modern?07:52
Stalagnahey? every time I try and run openoffice, it locks up07:53
Enkidubob2, it boots and will run gnome, but not everything works07:53
bob2Enkidu: e.g.?07:53
Enkidubob2, my speakers only click when they should play a sound07:53
Stalagnait opens up with the first screen with the loading bar, and once the bar reaches 100% it stops, and freezes?07:53
andres_frStalagna, try opening a file directly07:53
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imaekHow can I get my iPod to work with gtkpod when it isn't sensing the iPod? The tutorial says use dmesg, but I don't know what to do with the output ?07:54
bob2Enkidu: how would recompiling help that?07:54
Stalagnai don't have any files to open yet07:54
andres_frStalagna, any doc wil work07:54
Enkidubob2, i dont know, i was going to get rid of all the sound drivers that werent for my card and see if there was some kind of conflict07:54
bob2Enkidu: no, it doesn't work like that07:54
MadpilotStalagna: OpenOffice will open MS formats (.doc, etc) if you've got one of them around...07:54
BR0KENbob2 what do you think?07:55
Enkidubob2, well i've tried everything else imaginable07:55
Stalagnayeah think so, one sec07:55
yahalomanyone here managed to get a boot screen? i'm having issues installing it07:55
terasurferimaek: try typing tail -f /var/log/messages and then connect your ipod07:55
bob2BR0KEN: the folder icon is a bit lame07:55
bob2BR0KEN: very gnome 1.4-y07:55
BR0KENlemme look07:55
bob2yahalom: when installing ubuntu?07:55
bob2Enkidu: is it using the right module for your card?07:55
BR0KENbob2 what on earth are you talking about?!  it's the SAME FOLDER icon as in gnome currently, just slicker around the edges.07:56
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yahalombob2, no.07:56
bob2BR0KEN: meh, I think the current icon theme in gnome isn't all that hot either07:56
Enkidubob2, in the speaker icon it says it is; at least it says Yamaha DS-XG (YMF744) and mines a 744B07:56
Stalagnawell, it opens up to a grey empty screen07:56
bob2Enkidu: ignore that07:56
bob2Enkidu: what module should it be using?07:56
yahalombob2, one that will be in silent mode everyime, just showing a progress bar07:56
imaekDoes anybody know what it means when your iPod has a little cd with a magnifying glass going over it and a small very slow-moving progress bar?07:57
bob2(you should know that if you're trying to build a kernel)07:57
bob2yahalom: aka usplash, aka being worked on07:57
terasurferimaek: where are you 'seeing' your ipod?07:57
terasurferor is this on the ipod display?07:57
imaekI mean, on the screen of the physical iPod.07:57
Enkidubob2, umm the module is called snd-ymfpci07:57
BR0KENbob2 well, gperfection is like gnome but way more modern looking.  i challenge you to find a theme with a better looking directory icon.07:58
pinPointcan anyone help me with snmpd07:58
pinPointtrying to run it with mrtg but getting an error07:58
bob2Enkidu: and is that loaded? (lsmod | grep ymfpci).07:58
terasurferimaek: i am not sure, but it might be reading the disk contents...due to lack of an iTunes database07:58
bob2pinPoint: which howto are you following?07:58
BR0KENhondje dude, does that applet you showed me act functionally equivalent to the winxp behavior?  when screensaver comes on, does it go back to the gdm?07:58
yahalombob2, ah so its being planned for breezy?07:58
hondjeBR0KEN: I dunno anything about winxp07:58
BR0KENhondje jesus christ man07:58
Enkidubob2, yes07:58
imaekterasurfer: O...kay.  It's been doing it for like 5 minutes now and it looks to be only 25-30% done. :(07:58
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dr_willisewww i hate that lame 'feature of' xp07:59
BR0KENhondje when the screensaver comes on, does that applet make it go back to the gdm?07:59
hondjeBut I click on the other user, and it brings me to their locked xscreensaver, then I put in passwd and I'm in07:59
terasurferimaek: is there a lot of data on the ipod?07:59
BR0KENdr_willis how could you possibly improve that feature?07:59
dr_willisyou can make the screensavber ask for a password - to get back on.07:59
BR0KENdr_willis OSX also does that.07:59
dr_willisBR0KEN,  i tend to DISABLE it.07:59
bob2yahalom: think so07:59
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imaekterasurfer: it's a 20gb, and I think I only have like 5-6gb filled.07:59
Cy|HyperGah crap07:59
dr_willisBR0KEN,  thats better for me.07:59
imaekOh, wait. terasurfer: http://www.ipodlounge.com/index.php/faqs/answers/what-do-i-do-when-i-turn-on-my-ipod-and-i-see-a-disc-icon-looks-like-a-cd-w/07:59
BR0KENdr_willis if someone comes to the computer and the screensaver is on, how is he supposed to log in?!07:59
Cy|HyperLooks like my network card can't even detect the router07:59
i3dmasterhow to disable my speaker beep in the console mode?07:59
Cy|Hyperiwlist wlan0 scan08:00
imaekIt would be nice if they had it say "NOW SCANNING FOR DISK ERRORS" or something.08:00
andres_frCy|Hyper, wjat car u got?08:00
terasurferimaek: what other OS have you connected the ipod to?08:00
hondjeBR0KEN: It's not flawless, but it lets me switch to another user in a more convenient manner, which is a boon to me08:00
imaekI had it connected to my father's Mac (os 10.4).08:00
bob2Enkidu: so, that's right then.  nothing odd in dmesg?08:00
Stalagna?? So open office will not open up, I tried opening and individual document and it opens up, but the screen is just a blank gray screen08:00
BR0KENhondje i'm waiting for a real fix.08:00
BR0KENdr_willis please tell me what solution you've devised that is bette than the XP/OSX system.08:01
hondjeThe only other solution I see is like OS X does08:01
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Enkidubob2, leme check that08:01
andres_frStalagna, reboot?08:01
BR0KENhondje isn't that exactly like how XP does it?08:01
pinPointbob2, i have a few i salvaged on google08:01
hondjeWhich is just seeeexy, if a little flashy08:01
Cy|HyperHm08:01
hondjeBR0KEN: I don't know how XP does it08:01
pinPointbob2, thats about it08:01
bob2pinPoint: do you know about SNMP in general?08:01
cafuegogrrrtttvvvrrrr08:01
BR0KENhondje in OSX, doesn't it return to the login if a user is logged in and his screensaver comes up and then there is input?08:01
dr_willisBR0KEN,  better is relative.. that feature is totally useless for my needs.08:01
Cy|HyperCan anyone help me?08:01
hondjeI haven't used windows for more than 20 minutes at a time in close to 5 years08:01
Cy|HyperMaybe in query?08:01
bob2pinPoint: also, do you care if you use mrtg, or are you just trying to get pretty bandwidth graphs?08:01
cafuegoBR0KEN: Nope.08:01
BR0KENhondje don't you ever leave your house?08:01
terasurferimaek: have you tried transferring data to the ipod in linux?08:01
pinPointbob2, http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=267053108:01
BR0KENcafuego how in the hell does it work then?08:01
imaekNo, not yet terasurfer.08:01
hondjeYes, but I don't need windows :-)08:01
cafuegoBR0KEN: if the screensaver is interrupted, the desktop comes back.08:02
BR0KENhondje you're never at a friend's house checking your email?08:02
pinPointbob2, i want it to draw those graphs for me08:02
hondjeOS X just asks for a passwd, then it changes user08:02
pinPointor anything else08:02
cafuegoBR0KEN: it only re-prompts when you do a user switch08:02
BR0KENcafuego what if you have it on lock?08:02
StalagnaAndres_fr: Ok about 5 min later openoffice just loaded, any suggestions on why the long delay?08:02
hondjeBR0KEN: hence 'more than 20 minutes'08:02
bob2pinPoint: but you don't care what tool you use?08:02
terasurferimaek: just a word of caution...when i tried to transfer to my ipod (hfs file system) using gtkpod, it trashed the file system08:02
andres_frStalagna,08:02
BR0KENcafuego you mean you can't set your screensaver to lock?08:02
andres_frStalagna, happened for me08:02
andres_frdidnt happen ever again08:02
cafuegoBR0KEN: I expect you can, I just don't.08:02
BR0KENcafuego that's insecure.08:02
pinPointbob2, well i was wishing to use mrtg. :) this is the error.  http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=267053108:02
pinPointoops08:02
imaekterasurfer: I don't really worry about the files on the iPod... as long as it doesn't perminately ruin the actual iPod.08:02
pinPointdamn damn08:02
BR0KENcafuego was that how it was by default? that's fucking stupid if so.08:02
pinPointdamn freenode chan08:02
hondjeI only screenlock so my daughter doesn't jack everything up08:03
cafuegoBR0KEN: Why? Nobody is going to break into my house and hack the screensaver.08:03
hondjeI'm not too worried aobut security in my house08:03
pinPointbob2, :: env LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg08:03
terasurferimaek: nah the hardware was fine, but i had to do a complete reset and transfer all files over again08:03
Stalagnaandres_fr: I just closed it and opened it again, still waiting on it to open up.....08:03
andres_frStalagna, don't know what to tell08:03
andres_frmaybe get openoffice208:03
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HajuuHey08:03
imaekterasurfer: That doesn't bother me.  9/10 of it is stuff my dad wanted to give me; the only stuff I want is on this computer and not on the iPod yet.08:03
HajuuHow do I install a windows game, through linux?08:04
Stalagnaandres_fr: through synoptic?08:04
andres_fryes08:04
andres_frHajuu, cedega08:04
BR0KENHajuu have you checked into Cedega at all?08:04
andres_frbut it's paid08:04
AegirHajuu, Wine or Cedega will do08:04
HajuuI have a copy of cedega and a copy of wine08:04
Madpilothas anyone actually used OO.o 2 yet? How stable is it?08:04
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HajuuCedega doesnt do anything, wine starts.. but then when the windows installer initializes, it gives an error and crashes08:04
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andres_frHajuu, then install cedega, then run cedega "installer_name.exe"08:04
BR0KENis there a package for openoffice 2 yet?08:04
imaekYay! 50%.08:05
AegirMadpilot, I've used 2 under Windows and Linux. Its very tasteh08:05
Enkidubob2, no it doesnt say anything at all about sound08:05
BR0KENAegir there's a package?08:05
bob2Enkidu: cool08:05
andres_frHajuu, if it crashes it might be unsupported08:05
bob2BR0KEN: it's in hoary and has been for months08:05
bob2BR0KEN: apt-cache search openoffic08:05
terasurferHajuu: you might want to check the wine/cedega compatibility first08:05
BR0KENbob2 whenever i do an apt-get dist-upgrade it never has upgraded.08:05
hondjeIs there any gnome app like kile?08:05
AegirBR0KEN, Yes there is. But you have to remove OO1 which wants to take the Ubuntu Desktop package with it. The latter does nothing anyway. Just a metapackage for installing from a server setup.08:05
pinPointbob2, did you have anything in mind...08:06
pinPointother than mrtg08:06
MadpilotAegir: good to hear. not fond of beta-testing, though!08:06
Stalagnaandres_fr: could not find openoffice2 in synaptic08:06
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andres_frStalagna, well, maybe you need repositories08:06
imaekHooray! 65%!08:06
andres_frtry ubuntuguide.org08:06
AegirMadpilot, OO2 is very stable, very nice overall.08:06
bob2BR0KEN: er, of course, it's not the default since it's buggy and brand new08:06
Stalagnak, thanks08:06
bob2BR0KEN: you need to install it if you want it08:06
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andres_frAegir, very different from OOo08:07
andres_fr?08:07
bob2pinPoint: I was going to suggest rrdtool, which has much better docs08:07
nihaousing PAN newsreader, can I use it for reading a google discussion group, i.e. comp.emacs? is it for this purpose?08:07
Aegirandres_fr, Come again?08:07
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OSStigerhi, i get an error window in my panel. "I've detected a panel already running,and will now exit."  When I hit the OK button, it just comes back after a second. What to do?08:07
hondjenihao: Yep, to read groups08:07
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Hajuu_hmm08:07
Enkidubob2, so what do you think is causing it?08:07
Amaranthgoogle discussion group? they call that usenet08:07
pinPointbob2, is it dependable?08:07
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andres_frAegir, i was asking if it was very different from open office 108:07
bob2pinPoint: yes08:07
pinPointwith graphs?08:07
Hajuu_The problem which makes me need to reinstall in the first place is that it doesnt recognise that my game cd is in the drive....08:07
bob2nihao: yes08:07
bob2pinPoint: of course08:07
bob2pinPoint: it's the successor to mrtg, more or less08:08
Aegirandres_fr, Yes. Open Office 2 is much much better than 1. Similar in interface.08:08
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pinPointreally?08:08
pinPointhmm08:08
tweek888hello08:08
bob2Enkidu: I dont know, I'd try asking on the user list08:08
andres_frpinPoint, even better, get cacti08:08
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pinPointcacti?08:08
nihaohondje, bob2: then how I configure the news server?08:08
Enkidubob2, ?08:08
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AegirWhen Open Office 2 gets released, Microsoft Office will look very lacklustre.08:08
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pinPointbob2, cacti better?08:08
Daveywhich build is it?08:08
Amaranthm100, iirc08:08
andres_frpinPoint, cacti uses rrdtool08:08
imaekWow! 90%!08:08
Amaranthnihao: your isp needs to provide a news server08:09
tweek888i have a problem, i jsut downloaded the i386 installer for ubuntu 5.04 i md5 summed it looks fine, but ive burned the disc 3 times and it keeps erroring on the base installation :\08:09
bob2Enkidu: the user email list...08:09
tweek888any idea08:09
tweek888s08:09
bob2nihao: er, you don't08:09
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andres_frpinPoint, but has a fully featured web interface for configuring08:09
AmaranthDavey: m100, iirc08:09
Enkidubob2, i have no idea what that is :-\08:09
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bob2pinPoint: I think cacti works on top of rrdtool08:09
bob2Enkidu: do you know what a mailing list is?08:09
Enkidubob2, yes08:09
Daveybob2: that it does08:09
andres_frpinPoint, just make sure to install apache2 and mysql 1st08:09
andres_frthen cacti08:09
pinPointweb interface hey...08:09
vince_can an expert tell me the following... if I use gparted from within ubuntu to resize my Windows partition to allow more space for my linux partition (ext3), upon reboot will that prevent grub from booting into linux? thanks!08:09
shanontweek888: Does it boot and then crash during the install ?08:09
tweek888nope08:09
tweek888i get a red screen08:09
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shanontweek888: so it doesn't boot ?08:10
bob2Enkidu: there's a mailing list for ubuntu users, called ubuntu-users08:10
tweek888it boots fine08:10
andres_frpinPoint, i have one running, wanna see it?08:10
Madpilotheh... I see that OO.org has stopped trying to give a release date for OO2. Might try it thru Syn anyway...08:10
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tweek888it gets to base installation08:10
pinPointandres_fr, sure08:10
Daveyis there any way to make ubuntu boot look prettier? :)08:10
andres_frpinPoint, nvm, laptop at work08:10
poopinabootwow, xfce is so much faster and so much more configurable08:10
tweek888and errors with a red screen08:10
andres_frsorry08:10
pinPointandres_fr, pm08:10
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Amaranthred screen? windows stole the red screen of death from us~08:10
Cy|HyperSomeone please help me08:10
shanontweek888: does it crash at the same point everytime ?08:10
Daveylike SuSE and other distros? where it uses framebuffer to show a loading graphic and you press esc to see details08:10
tweek888yea08:10
AmaranthDavey: Maybe something like http://dev.realistanew.com/megatokyo.png ? :)08:10
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imaek95%......08:11
bob2Cy|Hyper: begging for help isn't very useful08:11
Amaranthoh, you mean bootup08:11
Cy|HyperNeed WEP help with Ubuntu and a Linksys router08:11
bob2Cy|Hyper: disable wep and see if it works08:11
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AmaranthDavey: bootsplash planned for breezy, i think someone maybe one for hoary08:11
shanontweek888: It is probably not the CD. Find out exaclty what it is doing when it crashes. Is it loading a driver or something08:11
AmaranthDavey: geeks want to know what their computer is doing, newbs can ignore all the words scrolling by ;)08:11
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tweek888:\08:12
vince_does anyone know how to run the framebuffer in 1440x1050? what is the vga option?08:12
tweek888im much to tired, it takes my burner 18 minutes to burn and ive done this three times already :\08:12
andres_frCy|Hyper, pm08:12
Cy|HyperShould I disable SSID broadcast?08:12
nihaoAmaranth: I don't know if my ISP get this ready for us.... Is there a way to access google directly in PAN? (if this is a correct question)08:12
andres_frCy|Hyper, no08:12
bob2Cy|Hyper: no08:12
bob2Cy|Hyper: disable wep08:12
Cy|HyperOK08:12
Amaranthnihao: no, google is just reading usenet for you08:12
Amaranthnihao: pan needs to read usenet for you, so it needs a news server08:13
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eyequeuevince_:  zless /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.10/Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt.gz08:13
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shanontweek888: Don't reburn the cd it isn't helping. When you install if it always crashes at the same point it is probably an action of the installer that is incompatable with the setup of your computer08:13
bob2vince_: you're not using X?08:13
vince_bob2, I am08:13
TezkahI'm actually glad there isn't a bootscreen by default on ubuntu08:14
Madpilotnihao: most ISPs still have news servers. contact yours on Monday, or check their website?08:14
nihaoAMARANTH: oh, I see. maybe I should search if there is some free/public news server. any suggestion?08:14
tweek888shanon i have had ubuntu on that computer before08:14
Tezkahit helps with troubleshooting08:14
vince_bob2, I just want to have the nice bootsplash08:14
paulproteusnihao: What is your ISP?08:14
eyequeuevince_:  oops, no, it's not there, dang08:14
Tezkahvince_: bootsplash is another thing that can go wrong... and it also makes it hard to troubleshoot :)08:14
vince_eyequeue, what is it supposed to be anyway? a doc file? sorry, still learning...08:14
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eyequeuevince_:  actually, the stock kernels are not compiled with the bootsplash08:14
vince_tezkah, you have a point here... but I am not much of a troubleshooter yet anyway :)08:15
linuxn00bhi, i'm running the live cd, the problem is I can't mount my windows(ntfs) hdd...actually I don't know how lol08:15
shanontweek888: If it is always crashing at exactly the same point it will probably be what I mentioned.08:15
nihaoMadpilot, paulproteus: I am from China. I wonder if this kind of service is provided :-( news server is not popular here.08:15
vince_eyequeue, it seems to work - if I just specify the vga option at the kernel line in grub, I can do as much as 1280x1024, but my display is a bit larger08:15
eyequeuevince_:  ah, it's where i (mistakenly) thought i'd seen the table of values (though you have to convert hexadecimal<->decimal )08:15
pinPointcan terminal work with dependancies?08:15
tweek888i will get it in a minute hold that thought08:15
paulproteusnihao: Oh, I see.  I doubt USENET is provided by your ISP, then.08:15
tweek888:\08:15
paulproteusAre there specific groups you are interested in?08:15
vince_eyequeue, conversion is not a problem08:15
eyequeuevince_:  i use 791, but it's only 1024x768 on this laptop08:16
i3dmastervince_: can it go to 1280x1024?08:16
vince_but I also see forums saying that vesa's max fb resolution is 1280x1024, so...08:16
Madpilotnihao: that might make it difficult. still, might be worth contactign your ISP08:16
vince_i3master, yes08:16
linuxn00banyone?08:16
i3dmasterwhat mode number that is you are using?08:16
vince_let me see..08:16
nihaoOK. I will try.08:16
paulproteusMadpilot: Heh.  "Contacting your ISP" in China seems like asking for trouble.08:16
paulproteusI could be wrong, though.08:16
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Madpilotpaulproteus: perhaps. I'll leave that up to nihao, he's the local!08:17
andres_frhow can i start apache2 in a port different that 80?08:17
vince_i3dmaster, 0x31B08:17
paulproteusandres_fr: Look for the "Listen" directive.08:17
nihaobtw, How can I specify the person I am repling to in X-chat. I manually type your names, but I guess it should be easier.08:17
poopinabootso, if ubuntu is with gnome, kubuntu is with kde, what is ubuntu with xfce called?08:17
paulproteusAmaranth: You may find that removing your Firefox profile, or creating a new one and using that, makes it more stable.08:17
DaveyAmaranth: pfft, I hate seeing it08:17
paulproteusnihao: Begin typing our names, then press 'tab'.08:17
radixnihao: try typing the beginning of their names and then hitting tab key08:17
andres_frpaulproteus, thx08:18
Madpilothas anyone ever run SETI@home in U? noticed it in Syn and just curious...08:18
eyequeueandres_fr:  /etc/apache2/ports.conf:Listen 8008:18
nihaopaulproteus, radix : done! thanks, good tricks!08:18
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paulproteusnihao: My pleasure. :)08:18
glicknihao, not tricks my friend...magic!08:18
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Enkidubob2, i found a site that says its not supported by alsa (version 0.5.2) but it is by OSS version 3.9.2, do you know if that would matter?08:18
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bob2dang08:19
bob2it might08:19
bob2you can try disabling ALSA08:19
bob2and the module snd-ympci or whatever it was to /etc/hotplug/blacklist08:19
imaekWhen I do tail -f /var/log/messages and plug in my iPod, I get nothing.08:20
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Amaranthpaulproteus: I'm not removing 4 months on saved passwords08:21
Amaranthpaulproteus: any other options?08:21
penticlexahh java working08:21
imaekDoes it matter that I have an installed-after firewire card?08:22
penticlexit was faster than I remember08:22
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nate__muhaha08:25
nate__asfsdf08:25
hyphenatedAmaranth: go into about:config, sort by 'Status' and reset the "user set" values back to default with a right-click ?08:25
tsumehi there, I'm in need of assistance to find a decent monitoring tool like mrtg, what are the alternatives?08:25
tsumeI'm a bit busy, so I don't have the time to rtfm or google.08:25
hyphenatedAmaranth: (that's similar, but not the same, as removing the profile. it resets some things back to the default)08:25
Amaranthhyphenated: I kinda want all my settings too. :)08:25
Amaranthevery time i lose my profile i have to spend 3 hours getting everything setup again08:26
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imaekHey, I can't mount my iPod no matter how hard I try.08:26
imaekI have gtkpod08:26
BR0KENipods don't support vorbis.08:27
imaekerm...08:27
imaekwhat do you mean, BR0KEN08:27
glickwhy are you trying to hump your ipod?08:27
transgressnope but my rio karma sure supports vorbis08:27
hyphenatedAmaranth: well, I don't know how to export/import the saved passwords, and it's hardly fun trying to reproduce those 'random crashes', but they often don't occur with a fresh profile08:27
imaekglick: ;)08:28
BR0KENthe rio karma fuckin sucks.08:28
Amaranthhyphenated: this profile is 48 hours old :)08:28
BR0KENit breaks and breaks and breaks again.08:28
toxicfumeyahalom: hey, are you around?08:28
bob2tsume: you're too busy to do the work yourself, but you're willing to ask strangers to do it for you?08:28
transgressBR0KEN: my ass08:28
hyphenatedAmaranth: golly, you're good at breaking things ;-)08:28
transgressBR0KEN: do you have one?08:28
BR0KENtransgress i went through three of them in two months.08:28
Amaranthhyphenated: i managed to salvage my passwords from the last one08:28
BR0KENtransgress and rio tech support sucks.08:28
hyphenatedAmaranth: and your last apt-get upgrade was how long ago?08:28
transgress_BR0KEN: sounds like something to do with you08:28
tsumebob2: someone might have a better recommendation than "Linux monitor" which I seen on freshmeat08:28
Amaranthhyphenated: 5 minutes08:28
BR0KENtransgress Rio tech support was THE WORST i've EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!  MANY many MANY reviews of the karma mention these same problems.08:29
BR0KENtransgress no it wasn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:29
tsumebob2: was your comment supposed to be a rude remark?08:29
transgress_eh i can deal without tech support08:29
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bob2tsume: I'm just rather shocked you'd be so blatently lazy like that08:29
BR0KENtransgress i took excellent care of it.  the hard drive just kept freezing. TONS of people had this problem.  Rio sucks.08:29
bob2tsume: mrtg is not a "monitoring tool", it's a graphing tool for SNMP.  rrdtool/cacti is the modern replacement for it.08:30
BR0KENtransgress how long have you had your karma?08:30
imaekHow can I get my firewire working?08:30
transgress_couple months now08:30
Stalagna?? How can you update your choices for installation in synaptic package manager?08:30
BR0KENtransgress believe me, before my karma started breaking i was in love with it.08:30
Amaranthtransgress, BR0KEN: Try to be a little more friendly with this discussion.08:30
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johnnybezakhey guys, i'm getting a laptop today and I want to have my home directory be on the network anyone know how i get that running?08:30
BR0KENtransgress get ready for it to break dude.08:30
tsumebob2: cacti is junk since it uses mySQL08:30
BR0KENAmaranth i'm being friendly.08:30
bob2tsume: then rrdtool.08:30
BR0KENAmaranth i'm mad at Rio not him.08:30
transgress_Amaranth: i am being friendly.  i don't have "wordhere sucks" at the end of each of my sentences.08:30
AmaranthBR0KEN: But you're yelling. :)08:30
bob2johnnybezak: you want your laptop to only be useful when it's on your network?08:30
tsumebob2: I don't wish to write my own scripts for rrdtool ;)08:30
imaekjohnnybezak: http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver does that help08:31
Amaranthkinda defeats the point of having a laptop08:31
BR0KENAmaranth well..if you went through what i went through with Rio..you'd be bitter too.  I spent over 40 hours on the phone with them all together..had a huge cell phone bill..08:31
BR0KENi want to bomb rio's hq.08:31
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johnnybezakbob2: yeah it's impractical probably, but I want to know how to do it anyway08:31
transgress_BR0KEN: you also seem to want to go to jail08:31
tsume"A YIFF sound server controller and monitor", why would anyone want a yiff controller? ;)08:31
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tsumeyiff == sex, in the furry realm08:32
toxicfumeHow do i know what my LCD's refresh rate is? (ithought LCD's don't have refresh rate..but fglrxconfig wants to know :S_08:32
imaekDoes anybody know how to get a firewire iPod to show up ( I don't have a /dev/sdc208:32
imaek)08:32
AmaranthBR0KEN: The Brazilian government's computers just started watching you. You says 'bomb rio'. ;)08:32
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bob2johnnybezak: install nfs-kernel-server on the server, then edit /etc/exports ('man 5 exports' explains how).  then mount it on the client with 'sudo mount -t nfs 1.2.3.4/blah /home'08:32
bob2imaek: try asking on the user list08:32
glickoooh im scared! the brazillian government is watching me!!! hide me!08:32
cyphaseAmaranth, and since they're switching to Linux now, he can't hack back08:32
cyphase;)08:32
imaekbob2: User list?08:32
Amaranthhehe08:32
tsumebob2: its 0232, so sue me ;)08:32
toxicfumeanyone?08:32
johnnybezakbob2: ok cool thanks08:33
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bob2imaek: http://lists.ubuntu.com/08:33
toxicfumeHow do i know what my LCD's refresh rate is? (ithought LCD's don't have refresh rate..but fglrxconfig wants to know :S_08:33
Amaranthtoxicfume: tell it 60Hz08:33
toxicfumeAmaranth: okay08:33
imaekbob2: I think I'll try my luck with the forums first (I'm unfirmiliar with the whole mailing-list thing)08:34
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Cy|HyperHey Andres08:34
Cy|HyperWell08:35
Cy|HyperDisabling WEP didn't help08:35
Madpilottsume: knowing what 'yiff' means counts as Too Much Information, I think... :)08:35
Cy|HyperGod08:35
Cy|HyperThis sucks08:35
Cy|HyperAnd I'm tired08:35
Cy|HyperWell08:35
Cy|HyperNight08:35
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Stalagnacan someone tell me how to update all your choices in synaptic package manager?08:35
bob2what do you mean "update your choices"?08:36
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Stalagnadoes it automatically update it if someone releases something new?08:36
AvvYhow can i make a desktop shortcut/launcher to a directory?08:36
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EnkiduI FIXED MY SOUND!!!08:37
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Enkidusorry ;) i've been working on this for 2 weeks08:37
bob2by using OSS?08:37
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Stalagnabob2: is that ? for me?08:37
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Enkidubob2, no, i deleted the alsa file in /etc/modutils, and replaced it with the code listing from a site about my laptop08:37
thoreauputicAvvY: something like "natilus://path/to/directory"08:37
thoreauputic*nautilus08:37
AvvYdidnt work08:38
Enkidui even went so far as to switch to gentoo trying to get sound...im just glad it finally works08:39
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thoreauputicAvvY: works here:  try just nautilus /path/to/directory08:39
AvvYin a terminal?08:40
thoreauputicAvvY: in the command field of course08:40
thoreauputicno08:40
AvvYin the laucnher thingy08:40
imaekhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=191245#post191245 - Any help?08:40
penticlexis there any way to get shockwave working08:40
thoreauputicAvvY: right click, make launcher, fill in the command08:40
penticlexbesides wine08:40
AvvYit keeps saying execute text file08:40
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imaekpenticlex - Last I heard there wasn't a shockwave plugin for linux.08:41
penticlexI didnt think so but it couldent hurt to ask08:41
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AvvYwait, i got it08:41
AvvYthanx08:41
thoreauputicAvvY: OK08:41
thoreauputic:)08:41
nihaoMadpilot, paulproteus : I managed to get a new server in China. it works perfectly! USENET is a good thing.08:42
Madpilotnihao: hey, cool. I still spend a lot fo time on Usenet; it's the great forgotten resource of the internet!08:42
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tsumeoyasumi nasai &08:43
Daveyis there anyway to re-install ubuntu-desktop without having it reinstall OOo?08:44
AmaranthDavey: Trying to get rid of 1 and keep 2? :)08:44
DaveyAmaranth: yes08:45
AmaranthDavey: Don't worry about ubuntu-desktop, you don't need it08:45
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DaveyAmaranth: I will when breezy reaches release ;)08:45
Enkiduok 1 quick question before i leave, how do i find out what programs load at the start of gnome; i get an error message saying that 'this program needs to be run by root' but it doesnt say which program08:45
AmaranthDavey: The one in breezy depends on OOo2 stuff anyway, so you'll be fine when it comes time to upgrade.08:45
paulproteusnihao: A "new server"?08:45
paulproteusDo you mean a news server?08:45
bob2Amaranth: er, be careful there08:46
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paringassorry, guys, what settings do you set in /etc/fstab so your windoze partition is mounted at boot and is accessible not only by root? thanks08:46
paulproteusparingas: It's in ubuntuguide.org.08:46
Amaranthbob2: ?08:46
Amaranthbob2: Oh, I needed to talk to you about a bot.08:47
bob2Davey: when you upgrade to breezy, make sure you look at what breezy's ubuntu-desktop Depends on and install all the other stuff (or just install it if it Depends on oo2)08:47
nihaopaulproteus, sorry for the typo, "news server" instead :-)08:47
bob2Amaranth: upgrading to breezy without ubuntu-desktop won't be fun...e.g. upgrading to hoary with it meant not getting X.org.08:47
thoreauputicparingas: I use /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022 0 008:47
paulproteusnihao: Great. :)08:47
paulproteusWhat is it, so I can know?08:47
Amaranthbob2: ubotu appearently gives package information. I told cafuego to make it PM only and +q'ed it until I talked to you, since he said you allowed it.08:47
thoreauputicparingas: that is for an ntfs XP paertition of course08:48
thoreauputic*partition08:48
bob2Amaranth: I didn't allow it, I said that it wasn't a bad idea08:48
Amaranthbob2: Yeah, that's why you changes sources.list to breezy and install ubuntu-desktop before you dist-upgrade. :)08:48
Amaranthbob2: I'm just worried about it flooding the channel.08:48
imaekDoes anybody know how to get a firewire iPod to show up ( I don't have a /dev/sdc2 )?08:48
thoreauputicparingas: if you want it mounted on boot, substitute auto for noauto08:49
Tezkahshit08:49
bob2Amaranth: it has a reply size limit of line of text, which even on 80x25 terminals is only 1/3rd of the screen08:49
paringaspaulproteus and thoreauputic: thanks08:49
crimmyimaek: sdc would be the third scsi device. If you only have that one firewire device, it'd be sda.08:49
bob2Amaranth: and it ignores people if they abuse it08:49
Tezkahhow can I force powernowd to stay quiet?08:49
DaveyHmm, how to make Gnome2 show the side panel in all browser windows? (file browser).08:49
Amaranthah, a smart bot08:49
TezkahI'm watching a movie08:49
AvvYhow dot i got about accessing my network? I am on Ubuntu and am networked via a router to a Win98SE computer08:49
Tezkahand it sets it to be maximum08:49
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Tezkahits getting hot08:49
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imaekcrimmy: okay, but there isn't any sd's. I 'ls /dev/sd*'ed and got nothing08:49
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Daveyif, for example I go to "Places > Home" I can't get it to show, but in "Applications > System Tools > File Browser" I see it08:50
Tezkahah, well, its going down anyways08:50
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bob2Amaranth: some other dude went nuts at me because he claimed I was an "asshole" for refusing his bot, and apparently my only reason was that it wasn't a bloot bot (but Ididn't refuse it and I didn't say I'd only support a blootbot)08:50
BROKEN_LADDERAmaranth who was the bot?08:50
AvvYit detects my Windows Network, but doesnt have anything listed inside08:50
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: ubotu08:50
Amaranthubotu: smeg08:51
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 lol08:51
Amaranthack, it still only PMs08:51
Amaranthbecause i told him to make it do that08:51
nate__man, why didn't anyone tell me that xfce owned this much?08:51
nate__this is so fast08:51
nate__and configurable08:51
Amaranth<ubotu> sorry. i'm in 'PRIVATE' talkMethod mode while you sent a message to me publicly.08:51
bob2Amaranth: my only real concern is that idiots will fill the db with crap and use it to abuse each other on the channel (cf the dpkg bot)08:51
Amaranthheh, i've seen that08:51
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Amaranthoh, ##php's bot must be a blootbot too, i already know all these commands08:52
cafuegoAmaranth: I can fix 'im though, I'm around.08:52
Amaranthcafuego: ah, awesome08:53
bob2might be an infobot, that's what blootbot is derived from08:53
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Amaranthwell, they told me they wrote it08:53
Amaranthis blootbot written in PHP?08:53
cafuegoAmaranth: Most importantly ubotu allows searching through packages/Contents files for meta info.08:53
cafuegoAmaranth: No, blootbot is a dirty perl hack08:53
Amaranthah08:53
Llamabutcherhey guys I am using my buddies laptop, he got a virus on windows and he cant delete this certian file. I am using the ubuntu live cd, it looks like the partition where the fie is is mounted on hda5, but it isnt writeable, what is the command to make it writeable drive?08:54
Amaranthtell me when you turn it back on public mode, i want to test something08:54
bob2Llamabutcher: if it's ntfs, you can't08:54
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bob2Llamabutcher: unless you install captive-ntfs08:54
cafuegobob2: I have stuff like !lart disabled on it already anyway.08:54
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bob2cafuego: ah, yay08:54
Amaranthcaptive ntfs is pretty slick. uses ntfs read support to get the ntfs.sys driver08:54
cafuegobob2: They're all modules that can be dis/en-abled on a per-channel basis.08:55
Amaranthubotu: help08:55
Llamabutcherbob2, is that strictly for the live version?08:55
Highbieso is everyone here a programmer?08:55
bob2Llamabutcher: no, it's a general linux thing08:55
cafuegoAmaranth: Want me to put him back on public?08:55
bob2Highbie: very few are, from what I can tell08:55
Llamabutchercan I apt-get install it?08:55
Llamabutchereven though its the live cd?08:55
Amaranthyeah, but if it's possible to have help still go to PM, that'd be good08:55
Amaranthcafuego: ^08:55
bob2Llamabutcher: apt-get works on the live cd, yes08:55
cafuegoAmaranth: I'll have a look08:55
Amaranthcafuego: since help spits out a lot of data08:56
transgress_hope you have enough ram to apt-get with the livecd08:56
Highbieare there help channels on freenode?08:56
bob2Highbie: for what?08:56
AmaranthHighbie: help for what?08:56
bob2Highbie: (yes, there are lots, on thousands of topics)08:56
Llamabutcherbob2: is the actual package called captive-ntfs?08:56
bob2Llamabutcher: no08:56
transgress_thousands?08:56
thoreauputicHighbie: this is a help channel08:57
transgress_perhaps a bit of a stretch...08:57
Highbielol08:57
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Amaranthtransgress: no, i'm sure there are that many08:57
[Spooky] i have a problem with Python under install and after install off Ubuntu is this a common problem ?08:58
transgress_Amaranth: at least 2000 help channels?08:58
bob2[Spooky] : you need to tell us what the problem is08:58
Amaranthtransgress_: freenode tells you how many channels there are when you connect08:58
Llamabutcherbob2: what is the command to install captive-ntfs08:58
transgress_oh wow08:59
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transgress_i'm impressed... more than i thought was on here08:59
bob2Llamabutcher: there are lots of them08:59
Amaranthtransgress: 8309 channels formed08:59
transgress_i noticed08:59
Amaranthtransgress: you gotta figure at least half of those are actually in use08:59
AvvYanyone know where i could find Linux drivers for the Cannon MP390 all-in-one office centre device?08:59
Amaranthfreenode is very large09:00
Amaranththat's why we netsplit so much09:00
bob2AvvY: does linux support it at all?09:00
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bob2other networks have more people than OPN and don't seem to netsplit as much09:00
Amaranthit's not really that freenode servers split more than others, its just that we have so many09:00
AvvYbob2: it doesnt list my specific printer, but it does have a (recomended) (suggested) driver preseleected for a bjc60009:00
paulproteusbob2: The network architecture is very, um, "custom."09:00
[Spooky] bob2: when doing sudo apt-get upgrade i get a mes about phyton-glade2 is missing and i cant install it it says dkpg error...09:01
bob2AvvY: does that work?09:01
bob2paulproteus: hah, so I've gathered09:01
AvvYhavent tried: should i?09:01
bob2[Spooky] : this is with hoary?09:01
AmaranthOPN? it hasn't been called that since 2001, has it?09:01
bob2er, freenode09:01
cafuegoAmaranth: Ok, it automaticalt replies in privmsg when the resposne is > 128 chars.09:01
paulproteusheh.09:01
imaekgnome-theme-manager is broken now >_<09:01
bob2my irssi config is from waaay back, so it still says OPN as the network name09:01
[Spooky] hm the default on the download page09:01
MadpilotAvvY: had a look here: http://www.linuxprinting.org/  ?09:01
Amaranthcafuego: awesome09:01
Amaranthcafuego: i now have no problems with it09:01
thoreauputicAvvY: wouldn't hurt to try the recommendation09:01
Amaranthubotu: smeg09:01
cafuegoAmaranth: Easy then. Let me just kill and restart it.09:01
cafuegoAmaranth: Not retsarted yet09:02
Amaranthoh, you need to restart, yeah09:02
nate__how can you run the archive manager from the cli??09:02
transgress_hmm09:02
AvvYmadpilot: looking, but cant see it09:02
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AvvYthoreaputic: alright ill have a go09:02
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cafuegothe portscans are retarded09:02
Amaranthcafuego: maybe give me or bob2 admin access to it so we can deal with abusers?09:02
cafuegoAmaranth: Sure09:03
[Spooky] bob2: hm the one that is downloadabled on the ubuntu homepage...09:03
Amaranthwe don't both need it09:03
Amaranthbob2: you want it?09:03
cafuegoAmaranth: Let me have a perv at the userfile09:03
bob2ok09:03
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thoreauputiccafuego: does it have a command like ! or similar, or do you have to address it ?09:03
nate__anyone know how you can start the archive manager from the command line??09:03
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Amaranththoreauputic: help tells all :)09:03
thoreauputicAmaranth: OK :)09:04
LlamabutcherI am trying to do apt-get update w/ the ubuntu (warty) live cd and I am getting this error message E: Method http has died unexpectedly!09:04
AvvYits printing!09:04
cafuegothoreauputic: it will respond to '!' when it comes back.09:04
AvvYwow09:04
imaekErm... my System -> Preferences -> Themes (gnome-theme-manager) isn't working.09:04
AvvYthats sooooo coool09:04
nate__can anyone right-click the archive-manager in their gnome menu and tell me what command it uses to run?09:04
thoreauputicAvvY: :)09:04
imaekAnd I don't know how to figure out what's wrong with it.09:04
[Spooky] aha is the two types of Ubuntu ?09:04
[Spooky] *there09:05
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Aegirnate__, It will be file roller. Not sure what the command is. Try file-roller09:05
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bob2[Spooky] : ok, weird.  sure the cd burnt correctly?09:05
Tezkah[Spooky] : there is Ubuntu, and Kubuntu09:05
nate__Aegir: thanks09:05
AegirYeap. its file-roller09:05
Tezkahwhich is the latest KDE + Ubuntu09:05
nate__Aegir: setting up all my file references in xfce409:06
Llamabutcherhow come when I do apt-get update w/ the live cd it is giving me this message E: Method http has died unexpectedly!09:06
Aegir;)09:06
Raskallmy ubuntu propaganda is working. i am now up to my 5th windows convert09:06
Raskallin 3 months09:06
[Spooky] bob2: yes, i burned the iso in 16x that wouldnt be any problem right ?09:06
AegirLlamabutcher, Umm, Its a live-cd09:06
imaekErm... kubuntu sounds like a kind of lame idea to me.09:06
bob2[Spooky] : did you check, though?09:06
imaekI mean, isn't the idea of ubuntu to be human?09:06
bob2imaek: cool, but some other people think ubuntu is lame.  isn't the world amazing!09:06
thoreauputicimaek: it's actually very good - try it and see09:07
[Spooky] bob2: hm how ?09:07
bob2Llamabutcher: did you configure the network yet?09:07
imaekthoreauputic - I really don't like KDE...09:07
Raskallimaek: it is. I installed it to check it out. sucked.09:07
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imaekI've used it before many times.09:07
bob2[Spooky] : you burnt it from linux?09:07
thoreauputicimaek: I see :)09:07
MadpilotRaskall: so, do ppl get bonus points for converting MSers?09:07
RaskallMadpilot: just honor09:07
[Spooky] bob2: no from sh*tty Windows :)09:07
thoreauputicimaek: I use fluxbox mostly - but the new KDE is quite impressive09:07
bob2[Spooky] : ok, I don't know how to check the md5sum of a cd from there09:08
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Raskallbrb09:08
[Spooky] bob2: ok, and linux dosent have any cdcheck program ?09:08
imaekthoreauputic - I first used GNOME, then KDE, then FluxBox, then back to GNOME, then to Xfce, and now back to GNOME.09:08
dr_willisgo try WindowMaker :P09:08
bob2[Spooky] : sure, md5sum is all you need09:09
Llamabutcherwell I couldnt get the wireless working on my friends centrino lappy, so i just plugged in, and everything seems to be fine, bob2.09:09
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AvvYbob2, thoreauputic: i can print, but it only prints on a section of the page - as in it shrinks the page and pints a smaller version on 1/3 of the page. any ideas?09:09
thoreauputicimaek: I switch according to mood and task at hand09:09
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whiteoxhi all09:09
transgress_i have gnome on my lappy and kde on my desktop09:09
[Spooky] bob2: hm, am i able to check the hole cd with md5sum ?09:09
bob2Llamabutcher: you can ping google.com?09:09
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bob2[Spooky] : sure, 'md5sum /dev/cdrom'09:10
imaekthoreauputic: Ah, I would, but I have things happening on my computer.  I can't really reboot/reset at will.09:10
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[Spooky] bob2: i mean like check the burned cd for errors ?09:10
bob2AvvY: might try seeing what www.linux-printing.org says about it09:10
bob2[Spooky] : right, that's what that command does09:10
[Spooky] bob2: ok let me try...09:10
imaekI think I will restart.09:10
icemanok, i need help in changing icons in gnome ... the icons if on the desktop09:11
thoreauputicimaek: no need for that - just use gdmflexiserver to log in09:11
jeff25how can I make X listen on port 6000?09:11
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cafuego!test09:11
ubotuYes, cafuego, you're still online.09:11
AvvYbob2: its just a site with ad related links09:11
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MadpilotAvvY, bob2: no dash in http://www.linuxprinting.org09:11
bob2AvvY: linuxprinting.org I mean09:12
nate__what program can play wma music files?09:12
bob2jeff25: why?09:12
bob2nate__: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:12
thoreauputiccafuego: cool, just checking the help :)09:12
Amaranthubotu: smeg09:12
ubotuI guess smeg is a GNOME 2.10 menu editor at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/09:12
Amaranthcool09:12
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Llamabutcherbob2: yes I can ping www.google.com09:12
icemanis there a way to change the size of the icons on the desktop in knome09:12
jeff25bob2: why does it matter?09:12
thoreauputic! restricted formats09:12
ubotuNo idea, thoreauputic09:12
thoreauputicaha09:12
jeff25bob2: I want to spawn xterms from a remote machine on my desktop09:13
Madpilot! blootbot09:13
Raskallback09:13
MadpilotOK, got a /msg from the bot for that one. cool.09:13
Highbiewhat is uhuntu?09:13
Highbieubuntu*09:13
bob2jeff25: ssh -X user@remotemachine, then run "xterm&" and watch it appear on your screen09:13
bob2Highbie: www.ubuntulinux.org09:13
jeff25bob2: that won't work because ubuntu ships X with -nolisten09:13
Llamabutcherbob2: what difference does it make if i can ping www.google.com?09:13
bob2jeff25: yes, it will work09:14
jeff25bob2: I think I have to change /etc/gdm.conf09:14
nate__can't believe xmms won't play wma sound files09:14
bob2jeff25: no, you don't09:14
nate__can't believe i need lame mplayer09:14
bob2nate__: er, do the xmms authors have a patent license for that?09:14
icemanany one know how to shrink the icon size on a gnome desktop09:14
bob2nate__: no?09:14
bob2jeff25: the command I gave you should work09:14
bob2Llamabutcher: that means your network at least somewhat works09:14
AvvYbob2: http://www.linuxprinting.org/ doesnt list my printer - Canon MP390. the other drivers print, just not the right size09:14
Highbieso is ubuntu a mod linux os or something like that>?09:14
jeff25bob2: I don't want to do it that way.  nevermind I figured it out09:14
Llamabutcherwell yeah, it works... my dns is up09:14
nate__bob2: got a recommendation for an all-around music player?  One that can play pretty much all formats?09:15
[Spooky] bob2: ok i got a checksum...09:15
Llamabutcherso i dunno why http wouldnt work09:15
thoreauputic! restricted formats09:15
ubotuthoreauputic: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:15
Llamabutcherwould it have anything to do w/ my sources list?09:15
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bob2nate__: I just use cplay, but it's probably not what you want09:15
bob2Llamabutcher: could do09:15
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bob2AvvY: ok09:15
thoreauputicstupid bot I just told you !09:15
Llamabutcherbut it seems like it just let http work in general09:15
Amaranthabuse the bot and get silenced09:15
Amaranthjust a warning09:15
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thoreauputicAmaranth: :P09:15
imaekWhoa.09:16
imaekI just restarted09:16
bob2Amaranth: thinking "trial period to see how it goes and how abused it gets"?09:16
imaekand now I have like... 57 updates09:16
imaeko_o09:16
Amaranthbob2: yeah09:16
AvvYbob2: im dl http://www.turboprint.de/ it looks like it could help09:16
bob2cool09:16
Llamabutcheri have 3 repositories in my /etc/apt/sources.list are there any good ftp's that i can do that update and find the linux-headers for my kernel so i can install captive09:16
bob2Llamabutcher: sudo apt-setup09:17
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icemananyone know a app like superkaramba for gnome ?09:18
Llamabutcheri dont have a hostname though, all the ones im finding on google are all https09:18
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bob2iceman: gdesklets09:18
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[Spooky] bob2: that i got the checksum means the burned cd is ok ?09:19
icemanbob2 can it be got with aptitude ? or gnomelook org ?09:19
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thoreauputicAmaranth: OK I'm teaching it a couple of urls in /msg to avoid the wrath of the #ubuntu Gods ;)09:20
bob2[Spooky] : no, compare it to what's in http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/MD5SUMS09:20
bob2iceman: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, it's in universe09:20
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imaekI am trying to get my iPod working, and it won't even acknowledge that the firewire is working.  Does anybody know how to enable firewire?09:20
Amaranthbob2: I'm more worried about the bot not getting used at all than it getting abused though. Remember when I had one here?09:20
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Llamabutcherbob2, what should i type into the ftp mirror in apt-setup? I can only find http ones09:21
paulproteus"Ew, FTP sucks." (-;09:21
bob2Amaranth: no :-)09:21
[Spooky] bob2: it didnt match...09:21
bob2Llamabutcher: you can't use http?09:21
Amaranthbob2: You had admin access to it and everything. UbuntuBot09:21
[Spooky] so my cd is f*cked up ? :)09:21
bob2Amaranth: oh, right09:22
bob2[Spooky] : or your download was09:22
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Amaranthbob2: After a week of not getting used at all when it disconnected for no reason I just left it.09:22
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Highbieso what does the ubuntu desktop look like?09:22
bob2Highbie: like gnome09:22
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imaekmagic09:22
[Spooky] bob2: hm ok, i quess i have to download it again and check the md5sum before burning this time...09:23
Llamabutcherbob2: i dunno... what else could this message mean? E: Method http has died unexpectedly!09:23
Llamabutcherwhen i run apt-get update09:23
imaeki really hope that these updates are not like KILL YOUR SYSTEM updates09:23
hyphenatedHighbie: there's plenty of screenshots to see if you go to the main site and click "Screenshot"09:23
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Llamabutcherbecuase thats what it says when i try to install the kernel headers to install that captive program, but cant find them09:23
icemanbob2 cant find that link ..09:23
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[Spooky] bob2: thanks fr the help btw :)09:24
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bob2[Spooky] : you can just use rsync to save time09:24
bob2Llamabutcher: perhaps that the cd is broken, or the network connection or the apt config or ...09:24
bob2iceman: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto09:25
icemanbob2 ty09:25
Highbieis idle rpg the most weird game ever?09:26
[Spooky] bob2: hm ok... i dunno what it is hehe09:26
imaekI am trying to get my iPod working, and it won't even acknowledge that the firewire is working.  Does anybody know how to enable firewire?09:26
bob2imaek: have you asked on the list yet?09:27
imaekNo09:27
imaekShould I?09:27
imaekI don't really know what to do with the list..09:27
Seveasimaek, yes, there are much more people there who can answer09:28
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imaekUnder what, sounder?09:28
imaekor where09:28
nate__anyone know how to play wma MUSIC files in linux?  Restricted formats only gives how to play wma VIDEO09:29
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jacquesmerdeis there any way to delete the gstreamer0.8-plugins metapackage if i was dumb enough to install it with synaptic instead of aptitude?09:29
Seveasimaek, ubuntu-users09:29
crimmynate__: mplayer also works for that.09:29
bob2nate__: mplayer.09:29
nate__crimmy: really....it won't work for me09:29
jacquesmerdenate__, i thought wma WAS music...wmv???09:29
nate__jacquesmerde: ha, good point09:30
Seveasjacquesmerde, use debfoster to delete unneeded dependenies of uninstalled packages09:30
icemanbob2 humm lost in adding repository ?09:30
jacquesmerdeSeveas, to use debfoster dont i have to know every package i want to keep?09:30
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thoreauputiccafuego: is ubotu likely to be a permanent fixture? Or just when you are on ?09:32
icemanbob2 dont see how to add universe packages ..09:32
bob2iceman: that page explains how09:32
Seveasjacquesmerde, you can just skip the ones you're not sure about09:32
bob2iceman: what's your native language?09:32
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jacquesmerdeSeveas, but isnt the whole point of debfoster that you have packages you're not sure baout??09:33
Vanlar-AFKHey everyone. I just downloaded Ubuntu yesterday, and I'm trying to get my Broadcom modem to work... What kernel version does the latest Ubuntu ship with?09:33
cafuego__thoreauputic: it runs on a hosted box, should be here 24/709:33
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kagouhi09:33
paulproteusVanlar-AFK: Are you in Ubuntu now?09:33
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nate__seriously, why isn't it playing these wma files09:33
cafuego__thoreauputic: ... if I can figure out how to send admin commands <heh>09:33
nate__i'm gonna freak09:33
thoreauputiccafuego: great :)09:33
paulproteusVanlar-AFK: If so, you can type 'uname -r' to see yourself.09:33
paulproteusnate__: What program are you using?09:33
nate__paulproteus: mplayer09:34
Vanlar-AFKpaulproteus - No, I have to boot back to windows to get my modem working09:34
nate__paulproteus: with all codecs installed09:34
paulproteusnate__: Can your mplayer play other sound files?09:34
Vanlar-AFKbut thanks for the command09:34
paulproteusVanlar-AFK: 2.6.10 with patches, then. :)09:34
nate__paulproteus: yes, mp309:34
nate__paulproteus: and ogg09:34
paulproteusLook for the linux-image-* package.09:34
Seveasjacquesmerde, debfoster will create a keepers file in which you specify what you want to keep, running debfoster once in a while will help you regaining disk space :)09:34
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Vanlar-AFKOk, 2.6.10... I downloaded a Linux driver for my modem from Dell, but it was for Redhat 9. I RPM'd it per the instructions, but it didn't work.09:35
paulproteusVanlar-AFK: What modem?09:35
iceman aptitude install gdesklets does noe get it ..09:35
paulproteusCan you provide URLs with more technical info?09:35
Vanlar-AFKit's a Broadcom BCM v.92 56k modem09:35
icemandoes not work ..09:35
paulproteusVanlar-AFK: FYI, "BCM" is a shorthand for "Broadcom".09:35
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paulproteus4212 sounds probably.09:36
jacquesmerdeSeveas, actually. i just installed ubuntu recently, and have only installed a couple of new packages. is there any way i can roll-back to the default packages?09:36
ChrisrvI think it's a 4212, yes09:36
Seveasjacquesmerde, yes, run debfoster and prune everything except ubuntu-desktop09:36
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nate__its pastebin.com, right?09:37
icemanwhy does this have to suck so much trying to add a package ..09:37
jacquesmerdeSeveas, and debfoster? can it prune itself? can it take itself out to dinner and a movie?09:37
ChrisrvEverything worked perfectly with Ubuntu except that modem. Unfortunately when Dialup is all you have. A modem is important =)09:37
nate__Chrisrv: ickie09:37
bob2iceman: it's not very hard09:38
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bob2iceman: it even has screenshots to show you what to change09:38
bob2iceman: what is confusing you?09:38
Seveasjacquesmerde, yes, it can prune itself :)09:38
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icemanbob2 screens completly different ... cant just add a checkbox ?09:39
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kisainanyone good a reading wine output errors?09:39
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paulproteuskisain: I'm afraid so.09:40
paulproteusJoin me in #flood09:40
Chrisrvpaulproteus - I'm looking for more details on the modem now09:40
icemanbob2 no menu to enable or disable09:40
bob2iceman: is the page translated into your native language?  that might be clearer.09:40
kisainif i paste the error in pastebin you think you can help?09:40
nate__oops, i see the problem now, its a liscensing issue09:40
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nate__gotta burn it to audio then rip it under linux now09:41
icemaneanglish ...09:41
icemanenglish ..09:41
jacquesmerdeSeveas, after i selected to keep ubuntu-desktop, it asked about language-pack-en, linux-386, and grub (do i want all three of them?)09:41
paulproteuskisain: Maybe.09:41
paulproteuskisain: Try. :)09:41
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icemancomplete different look09:41
RUXSPINZh4x0rs?09:41
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radixRUXSPINZ: everywhere!09:41
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Seveasjacquesmerde, probably you want :)09:42
RUXSPINZsweet i need help09:42
RUXSPINZanyone know how to do shit with an open port 21?09:42
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bob2RUXSPINZ: best to just ask your actual question09:42
thoreauputicRUXSPINZ: could you be a bit more vague?09:42
bob2if it is "How do I port-forward FTP?", the answer is, "you don't".09:42
RUXSPINZlol09:42
AegirRUXSPINZ, What are you trying to break?09:42
RUXSPINZmy schools web server09:43
Aegir:P09:43
AegirHah. A noble goal. But still, dont bother09:43
icemanbob2 my synaptic package manager shows a large type list on the lest side ... no option for universe pacakges ... i can ann repositories.. but is ask for a apt line ... then who knows what ?09:43
jacquesmerdeSeveas, ooh, one last question before i become an aptitude convert, i've installed a few tetex packages recently, but debfoster didnt offer to prune them, any idea why?09:43
RUXSPINZthe 80 is also open09:43
SeveasRUXSPINZ, we do not support hacking and other illegal stuff in here...09:43
cafuegoRUXSPINZ: So you have ftp and http09:43
RUXSPINZyes09:43
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AegirRUXSPINZ, Dont bother. The admins are always fifteen steps ahead, and can see your every move.09:43
paulproteusSeveas: You mean, "cracking."09:43
Seveasjacquesmerde, not really, did it only ack about the 3 afore-mentioned packages09:44
kisainpaulproteus here it is09:44
Seveaspaulproteus, same thing in *his* eyes09:44
imaekI am trying to get my iPod working, and it won't even acknowledge that the firewire is working.  Does anybody know how to enable firewire?09:44
kisainhttp://pastebin.com/29157509:44
jmeHello everybody09:44
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bob2imaek: I'd really try the list09:44
imaekI am09:44
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kisainplease tell me it's something i did wrong lol09:44
imaekI'm just still trying IRC...09:44
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jmeI've a problem with apache2, did someone can help me?09:45
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jmeI've installed PHP4, when i try to open a php fil i've a pop up asking me where to save the file :|09:46
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jacquesmerdeSeveas, it asked about ubuntu-desktop, the three aforementioned packages, everything i'd installed since main install, except those tetex packages....09:46
Seveasjacquesmerde, maybe you installed something that depends on tetex :)09:46
Jimbobjme: You need to get libapache2-mod-php, or treat PHP scripts as CGI.09:46
kisainpaulproteus any idea>?09:46
grahagrekde on ubuntu fucking fules09:46
Seveasdebfoster only asks about packages that nothing depends on09:46
Tezkahgrahagre: Kubuntu?09:47
paulproteusgrahagre: You mean, rucking fules.09:47
Amaranthgrahagre: watch your fucking language ;)09:47
grahagresorry ;-P09:47
bob2iceman: do you know how to use a text editor?09:47
jmeJimbob, I supose i've to restart apache befor test it ?09:48
Jimbobyeah09:48
paulproteuskisain: I'm afraid not.09:48
grahagreso kubuntu is basically a subset of ubuntu w/ just kde instead of gnome?09:48
kisaindamnit09:48
kisaini can't figure it out lol09:49
Seveasgrahagre, no09:49
kisainis there a wine channel?09:49
paulproteuskisain: I'd hit the mailing list.09:49
grahagrehow is it different/similar?09:49
paulproteusOr check winehq.org to see if they use IRC.09:49
jacquesmerdeSeveas, doubt it, it was the last thing i installed before gstreamer0.8-plugins, and even if playing mp3's require tetex-common, i can't imagine it needs all the utils too09:49
Seveasgrahagre, ubuntu and kubuntu contain the same set of packages, the default install is just a bit different09:49
thoreauputickisain: #winehq or something like that09:49
grahagreoh09:49
TezkahI have this program that says it requires Windows 98 or better, why doesnt it work on ubuntu? ;)09:49
kisainok thank you09:49
paulproteuskisain: I mean the wine mailing list in particular.09:50
Seveasjacquesmerde, try apt-cache rdepends tetex-bin09:50
kisainwine mailing list?/09:50
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bob2iceman: that picture isn't of synaptic...09:50
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grahagrehow many people use kde and gnome?09:50
bob2iceman: you need to run it before you can do anything else. system -> administration -> package manager09:50
grahagrejust curious09:51
Aegirgrahagre, I use both09:51
grahagreyeah, i prefer that09:51
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AegirNot at the same time ofcourse09:51
imaekAlrght, bob2, I sent the email.09:51
Tezkahgrahagre: there was a survery on what people used, and KDE seemed to be more popular09:51
thoreauputicgrahagre: some use both - #kubuntu for the hard core Kubuntu users ;)09:51
Tezkahits really just personal preference09:51
AegirMostly just use Gnome apps inside a very minimal KDE setup09:51
AegirI only use KDE for Kompos09:51
Aegir:)09:52
imaekNice e.09:52
grahagrei tried out gentoo on a pII yestarday, it took 23 hrs to compile everything09:52
AegirAnd use the KDE classic theme for some Debian Stable nostalgia.09:52
jmejimbob, I've restart apache2 but i've the same problem09:52
AegirAnd a mac-style tob-bar09:52
grahagreso i put ubuntu on my t42 instead ;-P09:52
thoreauputicAegir: kteatime is a must ;-)09:52
Aegirkteatime? Bah...09:52
thoreauputic*grin*09:52
icemanbob2 yes it is ... dang how to send yu my screen ...09:53
Tezkahksnapshot09:53
AegirHeheheh. My KDE setup acts like a Mac, but looks like the back end of a bus09:53
Aegir*g*09:53
AegirAnd I *like* it09:53
bob2iceman: no, the program on the page you pointed me at is not synaptic09:53
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bob2iceman: a) please stop /msg'ing me, b) be WAY MORE SPECIFIC if you want help09:54
bob2iceman: the first pictue on that page is not synaptic09:54
Jimbobjme: Umm, in mods-enabled, are there symlinks for php4.conf and php4.load?09:54
bob2iceman: if you mean something other than the first picture, please say so09:54
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icemanbob2 thats the repository manager i have ,,09:54
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bob2iceman: you ran the exact program I told you to?09:55
bob217:50:57 @         bob2 | iceman: you need to run it before you can do anything else. system -> administration -> package manager09:55
icemanbob2 on my screen ...09:55
Jimbobjme: Sorry, in "/etc/apache2/mods-enabled"09:55
Jimbobjme: There should be php4.conf, which points to "../mods-available/php4.conf" and php4.load, which points to "../mods-available/php4.load"09:56
bob2iceman: you need to run the program I told you to run09:56
bob2iceman: when I run it, I do not get the program you showed me in the screen shot, I get the one on the SynapticHowto page09:57
grahagreis there some way to cloak your ip address from whois on this server?09:57
grahagrei didnt see any09:57
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bob2grahagre: /msg nickserv helpo09:57
grahagresorry ;-P09:57
ChrisrvAnyone willing to help me get a Broadcom 4112 Softmodem working in Ubuntu? I have a Redhat driver source, and need to know how to make it work in Ubuntu =)09:58
cafuego.me arrghs09:58
bob2is it too late to exchange it for a proper hardware modem?09:58
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Fator_Deehello \o09:58
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Chrisrvhehe, yes. Although I'm thinking that going and buying a $15 'real' modem would be a much easier option =)09:59
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icemanthis sucks ... my screen shows the package manager open .. looks way different .. no checkboxs on left side of screen ..09:59
bob2iceman: dude10:00
bob2iceman: 17:55:12 @         bob2 | 17:50:57 @         bob2 | iceman: you need to run it before you can do anything else. system -> administration -> package manager10:00
bob2iceman: did you do that or not?10:00
icemanopen the package  manager program10:00
bob2nno10:00
bob2stop10:00
bob2I gave you explicit instructions10:00
bob2did you follow them or not?10:00
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p88hi, how do I load all the needed modules and mknods of vmware without rebuilding them every time I reboot?10:01
bob2you never need to rebuild them for a reboot10:01
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bob2did you just not add them to /etc/modules?10:02
icemanbob2 opened synaptic package manager ...10:02
bob2Chrisrv: please don't /msg people10:02
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bob2if they're random unpackaged sources, they will probably work10:02
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bob2but you will need to rebuild them everytime your kernel gets upgraded10:02
p88bob2: even if I load them, the device nodes won't be created10:03
bob2iceman: so, the title of the window is "Synaptic Package Manager"?10:03
bob2p88: vmware still doesn't do udev?10:03
bob2haha10:03
icemanbob2 yes10:03
Chrisrvsorry, thought that would be easier to keep track of.10:03
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bob2Chrisrv: no, in here everyone can help10:03
bob2iceman: but it looks like the firsst screenshot in http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504?10:03
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icemanbob2 ... no .. ?10:05
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bob2iceman: dude10:05
bob2you're not explaining things very well10:05
bob2you told me you were using the tool that looked like the one in that picture10:06
icemanbob2 now i have that one open10:06
icemanthats the update manager ..10:06
bob2yes, I know10:06
icemandont see how to add the universe packages ...10:07
bob2so10:07
bob2you're reading the wiki page I pointed you at10:07
bob2and you get to the bit that says "In Synaptic, bring up the repositories window: Settings -> Repositories".10:07
bob2which part of that doesn't work?10:07
icemanhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504? that one10:07
bob2dude10:07
bob2no10:07
bob217:25:30           bob2 | iceman: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto10:08
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ChrisrvI'm not familiar with different linux distros. Can someone look at the Softmodem Instructions here (http://www.jhrose.dial.pipex.com/tools/) and tell me if I'll need to change anything to rebuild the driver it's talking about for Ubuntu? The instructions given on this page are for SuSE10:08
icemanmy screen to add repositories is completly different10:09
icemannot even close to that one ...10:09
bob2iceman: in what way?10:09
bob2being vague is really really really annoying10:09
bob2and means people will not bother trying to help you10:09
icemanhard to describe the way mine looks ..10:09
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bob2not really10:10
bob2it's simple10:10
icemanbob2 my package manager look like the one on that page ...10:10
bob2is it the same, but with a different list of available repositories?10:10
icemannot even close to the same ...10:10
Seveasiceman, [prtscr] ,gimp,ftp->put on webpage :)10:11
thoreauputicbob2: I think the repositories screenshot on that page is from warty? Mine also looks different10:11
icemanexactly ..10:11
bob2it does too10:11
bob2iceman: my apologies10:11
Seveascorrect10:11
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icemannp ... i found the problem ...10:12
icemani'll explain what i had to do .. to make the universe packages available ..10:12
bob2Chrisrv: get the rpm from dell, convert it to a .deb with "alien", then install it.10:12
jmejimbob, In php4.con i only have this 2 lines : AddType application/x-httpd-php .php10:12
jmeAddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps10:12
jmegedit php4.load10:13
bob2Chrisrv: run: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:13
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GNAMhow can I restart a service as sshd?10:13
bob2Chrisrv: continue on from the "After extracting the RPM files," paragraph, but do not edit the header file10:13
jmein php4.load i've this line : LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so10:13
icemanonce i opened the package manager repository selection ..10:13
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bob2GNAM: you mean restart sshd?10:13
HajuuHey10:13
SeveasGNAM, /etc/init.d/sshd restart10:13
icemanclick settings ..10:13
bob2GNAM: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart10:13
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HajuuI just apt-get'd enlightenment window manager.. how can I switch over to using that?10:13
icemanadd a check beside disabled software sources option10:14
GNAMauaua nothing work10:14
icemanthen universe pacages appear ... in the new list ...10:14
GNAMmy sshd is is /usr/sbin10:14
SeveasHajuu, log out and choose enlightenment from the login screen10:14
ChrisrvThanks bob. I'm going to try that. Then I'll fireup my laptop and come back here on it, with Linux on my home PC, that way I can try stuff on it and talk here at the same time.10:14
bob2Chrisrv: you'll need to copy the script to /etc/init.d/ manually10:14
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icemanbob2 you tried ... np ... he caught the screen difference ..10:15
SeveasGNAM, have you manually installed sshd or from the repositories?10:15
bob2Chrisrv: the ppp config files can be generated using "sudo pppconfig"10:15
GNAMfrom repo10:15
Chrisrvbob2 ok10:15
icemanbob2 thanks ... think i got it now ..10:15
HajuuSeveas:  did.. I couldnt see it there...10:15
GNAMit works10:15
GNAMbut I need to reboot to restart the service?10:15
Hajuuill try again10:15
SeveasGNAM, no10:15
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bob2GNAM: no, not at all10:15
GNAMok, what's command ? :P10:15
Chrisrvwill the Gnome dial-up connection manager thing work for me after /dev/modem is properly linked? or will I need the PPP scripts anyway?10:15
SeveasGNAM, /etc/init.d/sshd restart10:15
SeveasGNAM, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart10:16
Seveasyou need to do it as rot10:16
Seveasroot*10:16
thoreauputicSeveas: erm - ssh not sshd I think10:16
GNAM/etc/init.d/ssh restart10:16
Seveashmm, indeed10:16
GNAMok10:16
GNAMthanks10:16
GNAMno sshd10:16
GNAM;)10:16
icemangot gdesklets ... thanks10:16
Seveasweird, calling sshd ssh :)10:16
thoreauputicChrisrv: I strongly suggest using pppconfig instead10:17
thoreauputicoh, too late10:18
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HajuuOk uhm10:20
HajuuI restarted10:20
HajuuNo sign of enlightenment on my login menu10:20
HajuuNo sign of any choice of window managers at all10:20
HajuuI could chose gnome or failsafe10:20
bob2yup10:20
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HajuuSo.. Any ideas on how to change my window manager then?10:21
Hajuuheh10:21
thoreauputicHajuu: have a look at the entry for gnome.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions and make a similar file for enlightenment (I suspect it's missing)10:21
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ubuntuhallo10:22
ubuntuHallo bob210:23
thoreauputicHajuu: the Exec=  line would say /usr/bin/enlightenment I would think10:23
Hajuudoesnt seem to have anything in there about a window manager10:23
HajuuExec=/usr/bin/gnome-session10:23
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thoreauputicHajuu: there should be a gnome.desktop file10:24
Hajuuyeah thats what that line is from10:24
bob2gnome-session starts your window manager10:24
jmels10:24
thoreauputicHajuu: you will need a new file in there called enlightenment.desktop10:24
thoreauputicHajuu: with the same format10:24
Hajuurighto10:24
thoreauputicHajuu: I think the enlightenment package fails to set it up10:25
Hajuuand just point the exec line to the enlightenment exec?10:25
Hajuunah it didnt fail10:25
Hajuuheh10:25
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lunitikIs it true that Thunar is due to replace Nautilus in Ubuntu?  :o10:25
thoreauputicHajuu: try it and see if it works ( it should if you use the same format I think)10:25
Seveaslunitik, where did you hear that?10:26
Hajuucool10:26
Hajuuwill do10:26
Hajuuthanks10:26
thoreauputicHajuu: if not you will need a ~/.xsession file for it10:26
thoreauputicHajuu: but try this first10:26
lunitikSeveas, Nat Freidmans latest blog...  " Jeff seemed pretty excited about this; I got the feeling Ubuntu would be switching to Thunar pretty shortly!"10:26
lunitikJust him guessing? or valid?10:27
Seveaslunitik, hmm, never heard of such a thing from ubuntu-devs, can you give me the url to that blog please10:27
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lunitikSeveas, umm... just go to planet.g.o and search for friedman  :/10:27
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Seveaslunitik, it's just guessing on his side10:29
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kakaltoanyone here played criticalmass?10:32
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jyrki007Hi, does anyone idea to unzip RAR-files? apt-get install "what"?10:33
Burgundaviajyrki007, unrar-nonfree10:33
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lexxanHey bob2.. go fuck yourself.10:33
jyrki007thanks, I am newbie on Ubuntu10:33
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snacunrar10:34
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jeff25 I think automake is broken10:34
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jeff25if I have 3 versions of automake installed... how do I choose which one I want to use?10:35
snachello guys , there is someone use ipodder10:35
jeff25all the symlinks point to /etc/alternatives10:36
bob2jeff25: right...10:36
bob2jeff25: update-alternatives --config automake10:36
jeff25ah10:36
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kakaltoanyone used tuxtype?10:37
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kakaltosounds like fun10:37
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lesshastehow do I tell which card   nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0281 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA] ) is ?10:38
jeff25bob2: btw update-alternatives doesn't update stuff in /usr/share.  I updated to automake-1.9 which means that there should be a symlink going to /usr/share/automake-1.9 but it didn't install it10:39
orangerddoes anyone know what i should get in order to get boot splash to work (like gentoo's gensplash or fedora's rhgb)?10:39
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cagdashi10:39
orangerdi've seen docs about usplash, but is that anywhere near done?10:39
bob2jeff25: er, why should there be a symlink pointing there?10:39
jeff25bob2: because automake-1.9 is using stuff from the old /usr/share/automake dir10:40
jeff25and it's screwing up my autogen.sh script10:40
cagdasthe ilisp package installation fails while dpkg tries to configure it10:40
cagdasis this a known bug?10:40
cagdashow can I handle it?10:40
bob2jeff25: how sure are you?10:40
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jeff25bob2: well I'm going to test it right now... one sec10:41
HajuuAnyone know of a good screen manager other than enlightenment?10:41
cagdasthe error is as follows:10:41
cagdasemacs-package-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/ilisp emacs21 emacs21 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-package-install line 30, <TSORT> line 2.10:41
jeff25bob2: heh even after installing the symlink my autogen.sh still doesn't work right.  I don't know what is up10:41
xunlesshaste, look at http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=60610:41
jeff25bob2: so I don't think the symlink is the only problem10:42
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orangerddoes ubuntu have a boot splash like thing?10:42
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bob2orangerd: no10:42
orangerdbob2: ahh..  any plans on getting a boot splash for ubuntu tho?10:43
bob2yes10:43
orangerdbob2: usplash?10:43
Seveasorangerd, usplash is a breezy goal10:43
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jeff25bob2: haha!10:43
lesshastexun, thx! :)10:43
jeff25bob2: the symlinks were the problem10:43
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jeff25bob2: you have to update /usr/share for both aclocal and automake10:44
imaekI am trying to get my iPod working, and it won't even acknowledge that the firewire is working.  Does anybody know how to enable firewire?10:44
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orangerdSeveas: ahh, got it ;)  when's breezy gonna be "stable" tho?10:44
jeff25now my autogen.sh is working fine10:44
bob2jeff25: I'm pretty sure that's not true10:44
Seveasorangerd, october10:44
jeff25bob2: well I just did it10:44
jeff25bob2: and it's working now10:44
bob2jeff25: automake in Debian has been like this for years, but I haven't heard of anyone having problems10:44
orangerdSeveas: cool, thnx for the info :D10:44
jeff25bob2: I don't know what to tell you... all I did was install a new automake and it didn't work.  I changed the symlinks and it's working now10:45
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bob2jeff25: automake-1.4 and automake-1.9 both use /usr/share/automake-X.Y explicitly10:45
jeff25bob2: then why do I get errors complaining about blah.m4 in /usr/share/automake ?10:45
bob2jeff25: what version of automake where you trying to use?10:46
jeff25automake-1.910:46
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jeff25bob2: to be honest I don't know if I'm correct or not10:47
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jeff25bob2: all I know is without those symlinks it doesn't work at all10:47
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Dsxanyone able to help with a guidedog/net sharing problem?10:49
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yahalomanyone here use desklets?10:50
yahalomi have that i cant get rid of and its driving me insane10:51
yahalomit follows my cursor everywhere so i cant click on it to remove it10:51
Fator_Deealt+f2 & xkill?10:51
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Chrisrvbob2: Hello bob, I'm back. I've converted the modem driver using alien into a .deb, installed it, and now I need to edit the makefile. Only one problem... I have no clue where it installed to =)10:52
yahalomFator_Dee, thanx that kills the app thought i just want the desklet to die10:53
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Akramehi10:53
bob2Chrisrv: /usr/src/RPMs or something equally silly10:53
bob2dpkg -L nameofthedeb10:53
Chrisrvbob2: Thanks10:54
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lexus14ciao a tutti10:54
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lexus14scappo10:58
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yahalomanyone here know how i can remove a faulty desklet without killing my gdesklets app?10:58
Chrisrvbob2: when I do 'dpkg -L bcmsm' I get 7 diretories listed (/usr/share) and then the .spec and tar.gz file in the root dir.10:59
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bigfoothi, I'd like to work with  two keyboard layouts: Dvorak and Qwerty. I've aleady gone to Preferences->Keyboard. Now i have Dvorak and US ENglish. But how do i switch from one to the other?10:59
Chrisrvbob2: /usr/share/doc/bcmsm/ is the deepest dir, but there is no Makefile in that dir10:59
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yahalombigfoot, choose sticky switching in the same palce u chose dvorak11:00
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yahalombigfoot, nevermind, just press both alt keys together it should switch11:01
bob2Chrisrv: root dir? haha.  copy them to yur home dir and unpack them11:01
navreetI have a 32bit gentoo partition, how can I run a program from my 32 bit environment? like firefox e.g.11:02
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bigfootyahalom, l don't see sticky swithching. also, when i press both alt keys, nothing happens.11:02
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yahalombigfoot, u have a us symbol on ur panel?11:02
Chrisrvbob2: Sorry, I'm a linux noob. I copied the .spec file and the .tar.gz file to my home dir. How do I unpack them?11:03
bigfootno11:03
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yahalombigfoot, ok so go to preferences>keyboard ok?11:04
bigfootok11:04
DalkusChrisrv, 'tar xvzf filename.tar.gz'  to unpack tar.gz11:04
bigfootyahalom, a strange thing. in xchat, it is qwerty. in firefox it is dvorak.11:04
yahalombigfoot, layout options11:04
bigfootyahalom, ok11:05
yahalombigfoot, group shift/lock behavior11:05
Chrisrvbob2: Thanks! I think i'm getting closer.11:05
yahalombigfoot, and choose one11:06
Ubuntianguys look at this: a laptop with linux pre-installed at 549$ !http://www.microtelpc.com/11:06
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Ubuntian(i'm not working for them buy the way)11:06
DalkusUbuntian, sure... Linux is starting to be pre-installed on desktop pc's too11:06
bigfootyahalom, what is currently selected is both alt keys, but it is not working11:06
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Ubuntiandesktop yes, a long time ago, but linux on laptop it's rare11:07
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yahalombigfoot, umm...so sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:07
Akramee11:07
Hajuuhey11:07
Hajuucan anyone tell me where I put window manager themes?11:08
DalkusDepends on the window manager11:08
lesshasteis there something faster than tightvnc these days11:08
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yahalomUbuntian, xandros11:09
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joker71hi11:12
r0dhow can I see what .deb packages i've installed?11:12
joker71r0d, i dont know sorry11:13
Hajuutar -x "/home/hajuu/downloads/fluxbox_themes/eon01-default.tar.gz" -- How come that just sits there not doing anything?11:13
thoreauputicdpkg -l | less11:13
Hajuuerrr11:14
Hajuutar -x "/home/hajuu/downloads/fluxbox_themes/eon01-default.tar.gz" "/usr/share/fluxbox/styles/eon01/11:14
HajuuThat sorry11:14
thoreauputicHajuu: tar xvzf <file.tar.gz>11:14
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jeff25bob2: if I install development library from one of the repositories and it's out of date... what are my options?  build my own?11:14
Chrisrvbob2: I looked in the Makefile, and I didn't see any entries where KERNEL_SRC were set, so I just tried to make the package. It didn't give any errors, but also didn't seem to do much. said "BCM V.92 56 Modem Install" and gave a copyright msg and went back to prompt.11:14
bob2jeff25: "out of date"? e.g.?11:15
bob2Chrisrv: ok11:15
jeff25bob2: yeah like say the api changed... and I need a newer version11:16
bob2jeff25: for example?11:16
joker71heh11:16
bob2that doesn't happen much11:16
Hajuuthoreauputic:  how do I tell it where I want to extract it to?11:16
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Chrisrvbob2: ignore for a sec. I think I see waht I missed.11:16
bob2if it does, then you need to think carefully11:16
bob2if it's not in ubuntu, it means it came out very recently11:16
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jeff25bob2: libx264 had one of it's struct members changed in the API11:16
bob2do you really want to insist your users install that?11:16
jeff25bob2: me?11:17
bob2jeff25: lordy11:17
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bob2jeff25: if you depend on a newer version of something than is in ubuntu unstable, you're cutting out a lot of users11:17
bob2think carefully if that is really good idea11:17
bob2if so, yes, you have to install it yourself11:17
jeff25bob2: heh11:17
thoreauputicHajuu: I don't know offhand - i just extract then move, or move first11:17
bob2or, better still, package it11:18
jeff25bob2: with all due respect, I could give a rip what other users have.  I just want to install this for a project of mine11:18
thoreauputicHajuu: man tar would know ;)11:18
bob2okiedokie11:18
jeff25bob2: libx264 is very developmental and they change the api often11:18
jeff25bob2: what are my options11:18
Hajuujust reading now11:18
Hajuuheh11:18
bob219:17:54           bob2 | if so, yes, you have to install it yourself11:19
bob219:18:01           bob2 | or, better still, package it11:19
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jeff25ah ok11:19
bob2depending on unstable libraries is a bad idea, tho11:19
jeff25sorry didn't see11:19
jeff25bob2: yeah :/11:19
bob2you should probably be statically linking11:19
jeff25yeah11:19
bob2unless you're sure upstream is clueful enough to bump the SONAME when they change the ABI11:19
bob2(seem most library authors aren't that careful)11:19
Chrisrvbob2: one last question (i hope) - when sending params to Make, what should I set KERNEL_DIR to?11:19
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Hajuuheh it would seem man tar wouldn't know11:20
bob2Chrisrv: what it says on that page11:20
jeff25bob2: well this project I'm working on won't go public for awhile... it's just for testing and to learn a new api for work11:20
bob2Hajuu: cd wherever ; tar -jxf blah.tar.bz211:20
bob2jeff25: ah11:20
Chrisrvbob2: It says use that for the KERNEL_SRC var. Same thing?11:20
bob2Chrisrv: I have no idea, I've never looked at the driver11:20
jacquesmerdethe wiki page on adding java support says to add hoary AND warty repos...is that right???11:21
jeff25bob2: thanks for the help11:21
Chrisrvbob2: ok, i'll try it and see what happens =)11:21
bob2Chrisrv: does it really have both those in the makefile?11:21
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bob2jeff25: np11:21
joker71on a lappy no less11:21
bob2jacquesmerde: no11:21
jeff25bob2: I'm quite new to ubuntu and to .deb's in general11:21
bob2jeff25: ah11:21
joker71jeff25, welcome to the Dark Side11:21
jeff25joker71: hehe11:21
jacquesmerdebob2, which wiki page should i be looking at then?11:21
bob2jeff25: ubuntu/debian unstable tends to track new upstream libraries pretty quickly11:21
bob2jeff25: like, quickly enough that you don't bother building it yourself11:21
pwn3rwhenever i start my computer i have to manually run dhclient :(11:22
bob2pwn3r: configure /etc/network/interfaces properly11:22
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jeff25bob2: I'll have to check those out11:22
bob2pwn3r: ie:11:22
bob2auto eth011:22
bob2iface eth0 inet dhcp11:22
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joker71i have suse on my desktop and i have no choice and i hate it, i love debian11:22
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pwn3rthanks bob, i wan missing the auto eth0 line11:23
cyphasejoker71, why do you have no choice?11:23
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cyphaseworc computer?11:23
cyphasework*11:23
Chrisrvbob2: Doh. Shot down. Make tells me that GCC is not found on my system. And since the modem isn't working, I can't download missing parts of the installation.11:23
joker71Cyphase, really really really crappy hardware11:23
bob2Chrisrv: install build-essential off the ubuntu cd11:23
cyphaseoh11:23
joker71cyphase, its an old pIII 933 that my mother killed running win2k on for 4 years11:24
Chrisrvbob2: At the moment I'm doing this off a live-boot CD. Does that matter?11:24
glickwhy does my custom kernel work flawlessly in debian and not in ubuntu?11:24
bob2Chrisrv: yes11:24
Hajuuis there a way I can have more than one login running X?11:24
bob2Chrisrv: also, bear in mind you'll have to do this all over again when you install ubuntu11:24
bob2glick: you're being too vague for anyone to help you11:24
bob2Hajuu: sure11:24
joker71ive actually smoked two MBR's on 2 hard drives11:24
Hajuuhowso?11:25
bob2Hajuu: login on a terminal, run "startx -- :1", enjoy11:25
Hajuucheers11:25
bob2Hajuu: there's a gnome applet to automate it, too11:25
joker71howso at me?11:25
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Chrisrvbob2: Yeah, i realize that. I was trying to see if I could get the modem to work before doing a real install. So.. If it does matter. how do I do the install off the live-cd for the build tools?11:25
bob2Chrisrv: you almost certainly need network connectivity for that11:25
HappyFoolhow about Applications -> System tools -> New Login ?11:25
glickbob2, when i compiled and installed this kernel in ubuntu my dns kept breaking at random times, resulting in gnome take 10+ minutes to start, and my ethernet card would not be activated during boot11:25
Chrisrvbob2: And thanks a TON for all this help. You're way too busy for this early in the morning/late at night.11:26
glickid have to manuall do ifconfig eth0 up; dhclient11:26
joker71anyway on this machine my IBM celery 700 imin Icewm and its a nice gooey11:26
joker71gotta love think pads11:26
bob2glick: and rebooting with the ubuntu default kernel works perfectly?11:26
glickbob2, yes11:26
bob2glick: why did you build a custom kernel, anyway?11:26
bob2glick: that just means your kernel is broken11:26
yahalomdesklets help please!11:26
bob2Chrisrv: np...it's 1930 sunday here.11:27
Hajuuok uhm.. I did that.. its all logged in etc etc... but It wont let me do anything... nothing runs11:27
bob2yahalom: beer please!11:27
glickbob2, my external firewire drive is not supported properly by stock kernels11:27
bob2glick: is it supported in 2.6.12?11:27
joker71Sun May 29 03:27:49 MDT 200511:27
yahalombob2, cheers :)11:27
glickbob2, lol how can you say my kernel is broken it works perfectly on my deb box11:27
Chrisrvbob2: You know... I think I'm going to go to bed. Get up tomorrow. Go to walmart. and buy a supported modem =)11:27
glickon the same hardware11:27
bob2Chrisrv: hah11:27
glickbob2, its supported in 2.6.11-911:27
bob2Chrisrv: at least you learnt a lot11:27
glickthats what i have runnin11:27
bob2glick: it's broken in that it doesn't work11:27
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bob2glick: how do you suppose ubuntu could differ from Debian such that dns breaks only with your kernel?11:28
glickbob2, its not broken on debian11:28
Chrisrvbub2: True. and to think. all this work is just so I can get a mud-server up and running for fun. hehe11:28
Chrisrvbub2? = bob2 =)11:28
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bob2Chrisrv: external serial modems will work out of the box, even with the livecd11:28
thoreauputicHajuu: you are in fluxbox?11:28
Chrisrvbob2: Thanks11:28
ChrisrvWell I need sleep. Night all11:28
glickbob2, i dont know its a mystery, i got dns working my re doing my host file and dnsdomainame file and restarting dns11:28
glickthen it worked for 10 mintues11:29
glickthen it went down again11:29
hungerHi... Just installed ubuntu-desktop. It feels rather sluggish... what am I doing wrong?11:29
bob2glick: "restarting dns"?11:29
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bob2hunger: what sort of computer is it?11:29
glickthe name resolution services11:29
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bob2glick: there is no "name resolution services"11:29
Yoshimitsuhunger did you do your own partitioning or did you let the installer do it for you11:29
Yoshimitsuit could be that you havent allowed for enough Swap mem11:29
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Hajuuthoreauputic:  not yet.. trying to get another simultanious logon to run it heh11:30
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HajuuCause I cant be bothered logging out11:30
bob2if you don't have swap, things get randomly killed11:30
glickbob2, dns11:30
bob2it doesn't make things slow11:30
thoreauputicHajuu: gdmflexiserver11:30
bob2glick: and how do you "restart dns"?  what command do you run?11:30
thoreauputicHajuu: type that in a terminal11:30
Yoshimitsuroger roger11:30
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glickbob2 I did it by rebooting11:31
Hajuuthat returns11:31
HajuuGtk warning: cannot open display.11:31
thoreauputicHajuu: hmm11:31
bob2HappyFool: that is awesome11:31
bob2thanks for pointing it out11:31
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jacquesmerdewhich repo is sun-j2re1.5 in?11:31
bob2glick: er11:31
bob2glick: so your complaint is that you have to reboot your custom kernel every ten minutes?11:31
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thoreauputicHajuu: it's in the menu under system as "login as another user " or something11:31
glickbob2, whatever its called gnome needs a valid fqhn11:31
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glickand for some reason whatever looks up your hostname in the hostfile when a the connect() system call is made11:32
glickbroke11:32
glickbind11:32
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glickor whatever its called11:32
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bob2I can't even imagine how to compile a kernel that would do that11:32
glickanyway as a result it stopped working11:32
glickbob2, it doesnt do it on my debian machine11:32
bob2just get the ubuntu source11:33
Hajuuhmmm11:33
auguljaquesmerde: u can download tar from java and install it yourself - really easy11:33
bob2kernel source11:33
Hajuuokee dokee11:33
bob2use the ubuntu config11:33
jacquesmerdeaugul, tar not bin?11:33
hondjeHi.  Where is the transcode package in the repositories?11:33
bob2add whatever patch it is you say you need11:33
bob2then compile11:33
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bob2hondje: it's not11:33
bob2hondje: it doesn't build on ubuntu11:33
r0dwhats a good cd burning tool. mostly for .iso images?11:33
hondjeoh, that sucks...so no point making my own package11:33
HajuuIts the same deal though.. when I log in as hajuu twice.. nothing works.. I cant open anything.. nothing on my menus work etc etc11:33
jacquesmerdeaugul, there seem to be a million different instructions to install java on the wiki and forums...11:33
bob2r0d: nautilus.  right click on the .iso file in the file manager, click write to cd11:33
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Yoshimitsur0d try GnomeBaker11:33
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auguljaquesmerde - its packed, so you gotta unpack it first and than install it11:34
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bob2Hajuu: er, gnome doesn't like you logging in twice11:34
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bob2Hajuu: why do you want to do that?11:34
bob2ilbahr: please turn that off11:34
bob2hondje: you could fix the package for it11:34
jacquesmerdeaugul, is there a page describing your method somewhere?11:34
HajuuI was trying to have one running gnome.. one running fluxbox11:34
Yoshimitsuanyone got Mplayer running right11:34
hondjeoh, then I shall carry on :)11:34
bob2Hajuu: did fluxbox start on the other one ok?11:34
JohnnyRottenhow do you switch users in gnome without logging out11:34
bob2Yoshimitsu: yes11:34
bob2JohnnyRotten: application menu -> system tools -> new login11:34
augulgo to www.java.com - got to jre doenload, there is a doco which tells You how to install it (step by step)11:35
Yoshimitsubob2 i got it running on Ubuntu PPC using Mplayer-g4. however when i run it i get an error11:35
Hajuubob2:  no.. it decided it would rather just run gnome instead for some reason :/11:35
bob2Yoshimitsu: you'd need to tell us the error...11:35
bob2Hajuu: how did you indicate to GDM that you wanted to run fluxbox?11:35
jeff25I compiled transcode on ubuntu11:35
Yoshimitsuim working on that now bob211:35
JohnnyRotteni just want to switch to xcfe but dont want to log out11:36
JohnnyRottenthanks11:36
bob2jeff25: yes, it compiles fine11:36
hondjejeff25: ah cool, can you make a deb of that?11:36
jacquesmerdeaugul, thanks11:36
jeff25it was a pita11:36
Hajuuohhh11:36
HajuuI found it11:36
bob2jeff25: but the ubuntu source package is broken11:36
Hajuus'ok11:36
bob2hondje: it compiles fine11:36
Hajuudont stress11:36
jeff25bob2: yeah11:36
Hajuuall is well11:36
Hajuuhehe11:36
jeff25bob2: I compiled from tar.gz11:36
bob2hondje: the problem is just with the build-dependencies11:36
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hondjeoh, that's no biggie11:36
Yoshimitsuthis is the error i get @ bob2. Failed to open /home/acidwolf/<11:36
hondjeNeed an excuse to download a bunch of libs anyways, better sooner than later11:36
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jeff25hondje: just compile from tar.gz and use checkinstall11:36
bob2Yoshimitsu: I really doubt that is the entire error11:36
Yoshimitsuyeah it is11:37
LogiRifRaf: ekki g ig?11:37
bob2Yoshimitsu: then show us the command line you tried to run11:37
Yoshimitsua littlw window pops up and gives me that error11:37
Yoshimitsuok11:37
auguljaquesmerde: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting11:37
hondjejeff25: did you use the stable or 1.0 beta?11:37
Yoshimitsufrom the commandline i get no error when i run it11:37
LogiI just saw a story about HP offering Ubuntu in selected areas in Europe and certian models.11:37
auguljaquesmerde: hope that helps11:38
jeff25hondje: stable11:38
bob2Logi: yes11:38
LogiDoes anyone know *which* areas are selected?11:38
Hajuuok.. in fluxbox.. why is it when I open nautilus, it screws with all my settings and changes my background to the gnome ubuntu one?11:38
hondjeokay, then away I shall go11:38
bob2Logi: their website doesn't mention it?11:38
Logiare these upcoming models or could I buy one now/soon if I happened to be in a selected area?11:38
Yoshimitsuhowever when i try to play something from either gui or commandline it freezes and then doesnt respond for ages . and i dont even get a force quit option when it goes unresponsive11:38
bob2Hajuu: because that's what nautilus does11:38
Logibob2: hmm.. I suppose I should have checked, shouldn't I :)11:38
thoreauputicHajuu: run nautilus --no-desktop11:38
bob2Hajuu: if you don't want it to setup the background, configure it not to (in gconf-editor)11:38
Logibob2: I saw a news article elsewhere11:38
Hajuuwill do11:39
bob2Hajuu: also, nautilus will be unhappy if you run it twice, once from gnome, once from fluxbox11:39
Hajuuyeah?11:39
Hajuuwhys that?11:39
grahagreyou should use xnest11:39
JohnnyRottenare there any programs to edit themes in linux like stylebuilder on windows?11:39
Logibrowsing is a bit cumbersome at the moment, since my thinkpad is basically dead and launching X crashes it11:39
bob2JohnnyRotten: linux doesn't have themes, things like gnome and kde and xmms do11:39
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JohnnyRottenwell something that edits kde/gnome ones in the same way style builder on windows does11:41
othernoobhi, how do i uninstall gnome ?11:41
Hajuuhow can I force another login to logout from this central one?11:42
bob2othernoob: why?11:42
bob2Hajuu: you can't11:42
bob2Hajuu: or you can, by switching back11:42
HajuuI cant?? But some of the logins are screwed up and wont logout or allow me to do anything..11:42
bob2then kill them11:43
Hajuuhow?11:43
augulYou can kill it | run ps -eaf |grep username after that kill pid11:43
othernoobbob2: i use kubuntu, last night i installed gnome because of a prog that requires gnome, i just tested it, it's not worth it..so )11:43
othernoob;)11:43
Hajuucheers augul11:43
bob2othernoob: sudo apt-get --purge remove libgtk2.011:43
augulHajuu: no probs11:43
Yoshimitsubob2 i get no errors when i run mplayer from the commandline however im still unable to play things with it , it crashes11:43
bob2othernoob: that will get rid of all of it, tho, so be very very very careful11:43
Hajuuuhm.. theres like... 100 things there..11:43
Hajuuwhich ones do I kill?11:43
bob2Hajuu: you need to be more specific before you break something11:44
othernoobbob2: but it will only get rid of all the gnome related progs which were installed last ngiht, right ?11:44
bob2Hajuu: do you want to kill an entire user?11:44
Hajuuheh yeah11:44
Hajuuno11:44
bob2othernoob: nope11:44
Hajuujust certian logins of that user11:44
bob2othernoob: if you want that, use aptitude in future11:44
lifelessbob2: I believe that is illegal ;)11:44
bob2Hajuu: yes, exactly, so you need to look at the output of augul's command very carefully11:44
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bob2lifeless: not on the isle of man!11:44
othernoobbob2: what else would it delete ?11:45
bob2othernoob: anything using gtk11:45
bob2othernoob: you said you wanted to get rid of gnome, remember11:45
othernoobbob2: yea. so, since i have a standard kubuntu installation, nothing requires gtk i assume ?11:45
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bob2othernoob: I don't know11:45
bob2openoffic might11:46
tiglionabbit=[ trackers down?  How am I gonna make an install-live DVD?11:46
Yoshimitsubrb im gonna go break mplayer quick11:46
Hajuuscrew it.. im just going to restart11:46
Hajuuheh11:46
tiglionabbitcan I get it from jigdo?11:47
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Yoshimitsuisnt there anything else that plays Divx besides Mplayer11:47
bob2Yoshimitsu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:47
Yoshimitsuyeah tried that and Mplayer is the only thing listed there for divx11:47
tiglionabbityou mean http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:47
hondjeoh this is nice, all the deps are in the install page11:48
othernoobYoshimitsu: vlc11:48
Yoshimitsui tried vlc11:48
Fator_DeeYoshimitsu: xine11:48
Yoshimitsudoesnt work11:48
Yoshimitsuneither does Xine11:48
othernoobKaffeine ?11:48
Yoshimitsunot on kde11:48
Fator_Deedo you have installed the pack for codecs? it says what to install on the wiki-page11:49
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Yoshimitsuyes i have them installed11:49
Yoshimitsuthey were on the repo i added to sources11:49
Yoshimitsuapparently this is what i need to find libavcodec11:50
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augultried raid 1 on two different (size,make) scsi drives, raid array shows 18,2 GB (first drive 18.2 second 73.6 GB) why is that, i was hoping i will get 91.8 GB array ?11:51
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bob2isn't raid-0 spanning?11:52
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auguli though 0 is mirror ?11:53
bob2I don't know, you're the one using it ;)11:53
JohnnyRottenbob2, are there any programs like stylebuild to make themes for gnome or kde11:53
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bob2JohnnyRotten: I don't know what stylebuild is11:53
bob2and I don't know of any gtk or qt gui thee editors11:53
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augulbob2 - such stupid mistake wasted an hour of my time - of course I should have done 011:56
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augulbob2: thanks for pointing out the obvious - silly me ; (11:56
bob2augul: heh, np11:56
bob2tiglionabbit: the admnis have been notified, they'll get to it when they can11:57
tiglionabbitalright.  I hope it happens before monday11:57
tiglionabbitsay, unrelated to ubuntu, can I ask about nickserv?11:58
hondjejeff25: good lord, you weren't kidding about the number of libs11:58
luisjehola nadie habla castellano aaqui?11:58
tiglionabbitit says if I put in "access" hostnames, I'll be able to login without having to use identify all the time.  But I have put in hostnames, and it still asks me to identify.  what gives?11:59
bob2this is pretty clearly not a spanish-speaking channel11:59
bob2lifeless: #ubuntu-es11:59
luisjebueno pues hasta luego. gracias11:59
lifelessbob2: ?12:00
bob2bah12:00
HappyFooltiglionabbit: not sure what client you're using, but maybe you can set it up to automatically send your nick when you connect to the server12:00
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HappyFooltiglionabbit: x-chat has an option for that, and i'm sure other clients would too12:01
tiglionabbitI mainly use irssi.  I tried adding the command to it, but it..  still didn't work12:01
tiglionabbitso I tried gaim, which asks for a password with your account, but that didn't work either12:01
bob2it does work in irssi12:01
cgcHi...12:01
bob2you need to identify everytime you connect12:01
cgcSomebody can help with a wireless configuration problem???12:02
nevynmaybe12:02
nevynif you ask the actual question it's more likely12:02
tiglionabbitif you say so, bob, but I tried adding the command to my /ircnet list and it.. didn't change anything12:02
bob2works for me12:03
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tiglionabbitso you can't get it to recognize you by the hostnames you use?12:03
jeff25hondje: yeah it's a pain12:03
bob2nope12:03
bob2I'd hope it would never do that12:03
tiglionabbitbrb12:04
hondjecouple aren't aptable as far as I see, but they don't seem too important to my purposes12:04
jeff25hondje: use the stable version because the untable version uses libs that are also unstable12:04
jeff25hondje: meaning that some of the libs have changed apis12:04
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hondjeyeah, I'm using stable...I'm a stable kinda guy :)12:05
jeff25heh12:05
augultime for me, bye everyone !12:05
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ABRAXAS77somebody know channel in spanish of ubuntu?12:09
HappyFooltried #ubuntu-es ?12:09
tiglionabbit#ubuntu-es I believe12:09
n3Cyes12:09
Flavsi12:10
ABRAXAS77thank you12:10
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tiglionabbithmm, is there any way to get gaim to tell nickserv my password?  I get paranoid typing passwords in when people could be standing behind me12:10
ABRAXAS77tiglionabbit, use script12:11
tiglionabbitfor gaim?12:11
ABRAXAS77ah,for gaim12:11
johnnybezakhey guys, i just installed vanilla warty - if i update my sources.list for hoary will it install additional packages, or just update the ones already on the system?12:11
ABRAXAS77but in gaim u can put remember the password tiglionabbit12:11
hondjeoh, this just isn't fair...gtk libs, too? :(12:12
JohnnyRottenanyone know why when logging out there is a black strip across the top of the screen that looks like it has red japennese text or chinise12:12
HappyFooljohnnybezak: i don't know, but i imagine you'd get a 'vanilla' hoary12:12
tiglionabbitabraxas77: I do that, but nickserv still asks12:12
bob2johnnybezak: it will install new ones as needed12:12
bob2johnnybezak: asusming you use aptitude/synaptic or apt-get dist-upgrade12:12
ABRAXAS77is impossible tiglionabbit...i use gaim,i have this option and never ask me12:13
HappyFoolJohnnyRotten: just video card driver crap, i think.12:13
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tiglionabbitwell it does.  I don't know what to tell ya12:14
tiglionabbitI just did it now12:14
tiglionabbitI type my password into the password box, yes?  I have nothing under alias.12:15
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JohnnyRottenIs there anyway to get rid of it? or am I stuck with it :)12:15
tiglionabbitjohnnyrotten: That sounds weird.  I haven't seen that.  Is it in GDM?12:16
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johnnybezakbob2: roger12:17
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JohnnyRottenits right before the gdm when loging out12:17
Simirafirefox-help? Are there any way to save sessions (or "tab-collections") in Firefix, like I can in Opera?12:17
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bob2Simira: yes, there's a session-saver extension12:18
bob2Simira: tollef told me about it, actually12:18
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JohnnyRottenOnce the gdm shows up it looks fine.12:18
tiglionabbitsimira: actually, you can save all tabs when you tell it to make a bookmark12:18
Simirabob2: he didn't tell me when i asked... *sigh*12:18
bob2hah12:18
Simiratiglionabbit: that's a stupid way to to it12:18
tiglionabbitit will save all the tabs as a folder of bookmarks, and then you can select the "open all in tabs" at the bottom of that folder12:19
HappyFoolJohnnyRotten: close your eyes when it happens ;)12:19
tiglionabbitstupid?  what's better?12:19
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bob2tiglionabbit: tracker is fixed12:19
tiglionabbityay12:19
abraxascan i register my nick without go to website?12:19
tiglionabbita session is just like a folder of bookmarks anyway.  What's different?12:19
johnnybezakmy new laptop has a 4mb ati card in it, is it worth getting ati drivers?12:19
JohnnyRottenhaha12:19
abraxasah,is freenode!12:19
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bob2johnnybezak: it is probably supportd (with 3d acceleration) byu the Free drivers anyway12:20
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johnnybezakbob2: awesome12:20
johnnybezakbob2: do ati open their old cards12:20
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hondjejeff25: Did you get liblve?12:20
bob2johnnybezak: I think it's partly that they document it and partly people eventually figure it out12:20
johnnybezakbob2: cool12:21
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jenskristianHave anyone tried to install XD-skippy?12:22
JohnnyRotten117 megs of updates on dialup :(12:22
Fator_DeeJohnnyRotten: happy downloading12:22
johnnybezaki hope that getting pppoe running is easier than last time i installed ubuntu12:22
bob2sudo pppoeconf12:23
bob2enjoy!12:23
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johnnybezakyeah last time i had routing issues (i didnt know what i was doing hehe)12:23
bob2that's probably because you setup a NIC with a default route12:24
bob2and pppd said "oh, this person must know what they're doing, I won't break it"12:24
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johnnybezakbob2: yeah youre right12:24
johnnybezakhope i don't do it this time12:24
bob2just disable that route and it'll work12:24
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tiglionabbitdarn, guess I've gotta wait for people to get on the bittorrent.  It says it'll take over a day to complete12:25
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bob2it's seeded by a machine on gigabit ethernet to the internet12:25
djsixtohi12:25
tiglionabbitdude, if I run a graphical application using screen, and then log out of xserver, will it continue to run?12:25
johnnybezakbob2: yeah thats what i did last time12:26
bob2tiglionabbit: no12:26
bob2tiglionabbit: use bittornado12:26
djsixtoholas12:26
JohnnyRottenDoes anyone know if a Microsoft usb wifi adapter will working in linux? I am guessing the answer is no but just checking12:26
tiglionabbitdon't use the gnome bittorrent client installed by default?12:26
djsixtoholas12:26
djsixtocomoestan12:26
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jenskristianA NETWM or GNOME WM Specs compliant window-manager.    Is ubuntus window manager this?12:27
vulcanoobonjour  tous12:27
HappyFooltiglionabbit: isn't it under applications -> internet -> gnome bittorrent ?12:27
HappyFooltiglionabbit: i don't *think* i installed it deliberately12:27
bob2tiglionabbit: not if you wnaant to run it in screen12:27
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tiglionabbitwhat?  There were funky characters in that, bob212:27
pluffsyhi12:27
bob2johnnybezak: yes, metacity is12:27
bob2tiglionabbit: if you want to run a bittorent client in screen, don't use the default one12:28
pluffsysorry if this is dumb, but I can't find it. what is the password for the root on the ubuntu livecd? I tried to su and just type enter as password, didn't work.12:28
bob2use bittornado's btdownloadcurses12:28
johnnybezakbob2: sorry12:28
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tiglionabbit*gets bittornado ncurses from synaptic12:28
tiglionabbitwill bittornado run faster than gnome bittorrent, just like it runs faster than the usual bittorrent client?12:29
HappyFoolpluffsy: try 'sudo -i' with no password ?12:29
r0dwhats a good gui interface for iptables in gnome?12:29
bob2jenskristian: yes, metacity is12:29
Fator_Deer0d: firestarter12:29
pluffsyHappyFool: Oh, didn't know you could do that. Thanks :)12:29
HappyFoolpluffsy: neither did i for the live cd ;) but i know su doesn't work in normal ubuntu12:30
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tiglionabbituhh, installed the bittornado client, but, how do I call it?  I can't find a command12:32
Zaratustrasomebody can install gcc 4 in ubuntu?12:32
HajuuHow can I completely remove something I installed using apt-get ?12:32
tiglionabbitapt-get remove12:32
AegirDing12:32
tiglionabbitor does that leave configuration?12:32
Zaratustraubuntu will kill me12:32
lifelessthat leaves config12:32
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lifelessZaratustra: gcc 4 is in universe for hoary12:33
Hajuuhow do I remove EVERYTHING then?12:33
lifelessZaratustra: sudo aptitude install gcc412:33
wezzerrm -rf /12:33
Zaratustralifeless, what is sudo?12:33
tiglionabbitsudo is super do12:33
Hajuuweazle_:  : what.. and track down each and every dir? :/12:33
lifelessZaratustra: a command that gets root privileges for one action12:33
Hajuusudo is Super User Do12:33
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Zaratustraim root lifeless12:34
tiglionabbitdon't be root12:34
Hajuuwell you shouldnt be12:34
Hajuuheh12:34
johnnybezakin ubuntu you don't use root12:34
olly-bhHajuu: apt-get remove --purge12:34
Zaratustrawhy?12:34
johnnybezakyou use sudo12:34
Zaratustraaaaaahhhhhhhhh12:34
johnnybezakread the faq12:34
Zaratustranow i understand12:34
tiglionabbitbecause people can hax0r j0012:34
Hajuuheh12:34
johnnybezakso instead of su - / command12:34
lifelessHajuu: dpkg -P package12:35
johnnybezakjust sudo commandname12:35
Zaratustraso te command is "sudo make"?12:35
lifelessZaratustra: you should not build software as root12:35
lifelessZaratustra: so you should only use sudo to do an adminstrative task12:35
pluffsyI have another problem if anyone has time. I can't get vlc to function from the livecd. It plays a small bit of video, then stops, etc, etc. and the sound doesn't work (in vlc).12:35
pluffsyI'm running the Ubuntu Live CD PPC12:35
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Zaratustralifeless, but still i have the error12:36
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HajuuYeah my sound in VLC doesn't work either12:36
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Zaratustraabraxas@ABRAXAS:~/Desktop/gcc-4.0.0$ sudo make12:37
ZaratustraConfiguring in fastjar12:37
Zaratustraconfigure: loading cache ./config.cache12:37
Zaratustraconfigure: error: `CFLAGS' has changed since the previous run:12:37
Zaratustraconfigure:   former value:  -g -O212:37
Zaratustraconfigure:   current value: -g -O212:37
Zaratustraconfigure: error: changes in the environment can compromise the build12:37
Zaratustraconfigure: error: run `make distclean' and/or `rm ./config.cache' and start over12:37
Zaratustramake: *** [configure-fastjar]  Error 112:37
tiglionabbitdon't paste here..12:37
Zaratustrasorry12:37
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Zaratustrathose errors are normal?12:39
Zaratustrai did full installation12:39
johnnybezakanyone here know a good acpi guide?12:39
haydenhow do i change the computer name of an ubuntu machine?12:41
Seveashayden, edit /etc/hostname and restart12:41
Seveashayden, edit /etc/hosts to12:41
Seveastoo*12:41
haydenok thanks12:41
haydenhow do i check the computer name?12:42
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ompaulhostname12:42
haydenthanks omalley ;)12:42
ompaul'sudo hostname newname' also works12:42
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Fator_DeeStick of Sudo +212:43
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ompaulhostname - show or set the system's host name12:44
Hajuuwhats the command to restart apache2?12:44
tiglionabbitoh no, ubuntu left.  Now how can we have a channel about him?12:44
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hayden'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'12:44
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zubuntuhi :)12:45
ompaullo :)12:45
Hajuuhow can I make a new alias to run the restart command?12:46
zubuntuhow are you doing?12:46
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ompaulwe are all doing ubuntu :)12:47
tiglionabbithajuu: alias thing="the command to make it restart"12:47
tiglionabbitassuming you're in bash12:47
jenskristianArgh... installed skippy, but it does show the wrong text over the windows :S12:47
Hajuubash: alias: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart: not found12:47
Hajuuroot@ubuntu:/etc/apache2 # alias apache2-restart= "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart"12:48
HajuuThats the line I run12:48
tiglionabbitno spaces12:48
Hajuuwhoops12:48
jenskristianhm, try a restart12:48
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Hajuunice12:48
Hajuuthanks12:48
tiglionabbityou're welcome12:48
rickardhow can I tell the mixer to record only from the microphone and not record "what u hear" ?12:49
johnnybezakwhat do i type to update the distro/?12:50
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tiglionabbitjonnybezak: You mean upgrade from warty to hoary, or to just upgrade all packages?12:51
HappyFooli think there's a wiki page on upgrading from warty to hoary12:51
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HappyFoolhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes12:55
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christoshello12:56
tiglionabbitwow, so you can upgrade your distro just by saying apt-get upgrade?12:56
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tiglionabbitoh, dist-upgrade12:56
christosi just installed hoary on a sony vaio and i have problems with volume12:57
christosit's too low12:57
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m4lc0mHi all, Can anyone help me about setting up a VPN connection with PPTP? I've tried with some internet searchs but now i'm in a static point! If you are so kind the problem is on ubuntuforum (is too long to explain here) -->  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37901   Thanks in advance12:57
gooHello. Anyone knows where I can get the synce-gnome-vfs package ?12:57
tiglionabbitchristos: how can volume be slow?  You mean the application that handles volume?12:57
liablechristos: alsamixer12:57
gooIt's very hard to find.. :/12:57
tiglionabbitI don't get it12:58
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Fator_Deetiglionabbit: low, not slow12:58
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competenCecan anyone help me with this error when im compiling, http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=621812:58
tiglionabbitoh cripes, I must be tired...12:58
tiglionabbitso sorry12:58
Fator_Dee:-)12:58
thoreauputiccompetenCe: umm... visual basic? This is a linux channel...12:59
herpescompetenCe, you are asking for help on something that doesnt compile on a windows platform....12:59
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competenCe...01:00
christosalsamixer improved the headphone level - i just noticed i hear nothing from speakers01:00
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herpescompetenCe, no one cares about windows01:00
m4lc0m:)01:00
podgecompetenCe : Do you mean Visual C++?01:00
competenCe...01:00
competenCeyes podge01:00
thoreauputiccompetenCe: I think you are... a bit off-topic here01:00
tiglionabbitvisual basic c++, that's funny01:00
competenCei use both fedora and windows01:00
liablehahaha01:01
titolol01:01
liablecompetenCe: go away please01:01
m4lc0mYes but here the topic is Ubuntu help01:01
HappyFoolmaybe ask in #c or #c++ ;-)01:01
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christosalsamixer improved the headphone level - i just noticed i hear nothing from speakers01:01
m4lc0mtry to type /j #visualc++ or something similar01:01
tiglionabbitwe can't debug your code if we can't see your code anyway.  The errors are on line numbers01:01
liablechristos: nothing at all from the speakers?01:02
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m4lc0mHi all, Can anyone help me about setting up a VPN connection with PPTP? I've tried with some internet searchs but now i'm in a static point! If you are so kind the problem is on ubuntuforum (is too long to explain here) -->  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37901   Thanks in advance01:02
christosnothing at all01:02
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HappyFoolwhat is pptp? (excuse my ignorance)01:03
podgecompetenCe : You are missing some includes.. check this link.. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mib/mib/mib_icmp_ex.asp01:03
m4lc0mHappyFool: is a tool for using VPN under linux01:03
herpesHappyFool, point to point tunneling protocol01:03
HappyFoolah-ha01:03
zubuntuwinsuck32.dll01:03
thoreauputicpodge: don't encourage him, please: he should ask in the appropriate place01:03
liablechristos: does lsmod show a pcspkr module loaded?01:04
tiglionabbitw3schools says PPTP is Point to Point Tunneling Protocol01:04
podgethoreauputic : no worries..01:04
podgethoreauputic : Not even an attempt to convert to Linux? Just tell him to rack off?01:05
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thoreauputicpodge: no, don't tell him to rack off - just that he should ask windows questions in windows forums01:05
Fator_Deemaybe he should go to #windows :-<01:06
podgeWho here is using X-Chat?01:06
novaflareme01:06
christosi run lsmod and i don't see pcspkr - the headphones are low compares to win01:06
HappyFoolpodge: me01:06
googah. So many old Gnome VFS modules does not work in 2.10 anymore.. why the f*** couldn't they just retain som esort of backwards compability :(01:07
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podgeI want to be able to click on a name in the main window and have it come up in my message bar..01:07
m4lc0mchristos: try to doubleclick on the volume icon in the system tray, may be then you can set the PCM volume01:07
liablechristos: sudo modprobe -l |grep pc*01:07
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podgeI am finding it difficult to type "thoreauputic" over and over.. *grin*01:08
zubuntuwell got go, just passed by to tell you good morning :)01:08
thoreauputicpodge: type thor <tab>01:08
podgethoreauputic : NICE!!01:08
m4lc0mso? nobdy know nothing about net and VPN under linux?01:08
thoreauputicpodge: :)01:08
herpesi know this is off topic, but does anyone know what happend to the tetris clone extension for firefox, its not listed under entertaiment any more01:08
zubuntuzubuntu@zubuntu: make -all love01:08
HappyFoolm4lc0m: try again later01:09
podgethoreauputic : Feels like bash now..01:09
zubuntuzubuntu@zubuntu: cd /irc/ubuntu ls alive.*01:09
christosi get many lines maybe you're looking for that : /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/input/misc/pcspkr.ko01:10
HappyFoolherpes: i know this is not an answer ;) but searching for 'tetris' in synaptic gives me about 20 hits. Maybe you can find a suitable substitute there.01:10
liablechristos: yah, modprobe it01:10
zubuntumodprobe -life -ubuntu01:11
herpesHappyFool, true, have you tried barstard tetris?01:11
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Hajuuanyone here set up apache2?01:11
HappyFoolherpes: heh. no. just read the description.01:12
herpesHappyFool, its fun :)01:12
zubuntu./set mode -shut_this_f**ing_mouth off01:12
christosi get pcspkr.ko not found01:12
podgetetris for firefox? Is it called blockfall? http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=1280301:12
liablezubuntu: anyhing actually worthwile saying?01:12
HappyFoolherpes: whenever i play tetris i get the feeling that's happening *anyway*01:12
zubuntuactually -no01:12
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zubuntuand i'm feeling ashamed01:13
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liablechristos: sudo modprobe pcspkr01:13
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zubuntu./make zubuntu happy -now01:13
christossame01:13
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podgeThe link to Tetris is broken.. :(01:14
HappyFoolHajuu: i have done some very simple apache2 setups01:14
zubuntuzubuntu@ubuntu: logout01:14
liablechristos: what sound card?01:14
tiglionabbitgrr, I can't get kde to open links in firefox instead of konqueror01:14
zubuntuhave a nice day folks and sorry i was a little bit sad... don't know why :(01:14
HajuuHappyFool:  wtf is the deal with this sites-available/ and sites-enabled/ stuff?01:15
tiglionabbitI set firefox as my default browser, and I even associated html and xml files with firefox01:15
HappyFoolHajuu: if i recall correctly, the first (-available) is a list of mods which are available for use01:15
tiglionabbitperhaps I have to close gaim first..01:15
HappyFoolHajuu: and the other (-enabled) consists of symbolic links to stuff in -available which you actually want to run01:15
HappyFoolHajuu: i don't have apache2 installed here; i'm working from memory01:16
zubuntubye.01:16
podgeBut here is the working link.. http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/blockfall01:16
HajuuI have my -available set up ok01:16
Slackware77somebody use gnome?01:16
hondjejeff25: You still around?01:16
Hajuubut I dont understand what to put in -enabled01:16
podgeslackware : Running dropline gnome on slackware 10.1 here..01:17
HappyFoolHajuu: didn't the install create symlinks in there ?01:17
hondjefreerock gnome > *01:17
Slackware77podge, do u know how to install icons?01:17
liablechristos: paste the command and output01:17
HajuuHappyFool:  Yeah.. it created the default ones...01:17
liablechristos: do you have speakers? :)01:18
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Hajuubut I changed the -available/default file and it screwed up01:18
christosit 's a laptop it has built in speakers01:18
HappyFoolHajuu: erk01:18
christoswhat command?01:18
liablechristos: the modprobe one01:18
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HappyFoolHajuu: ok, sorry, not really sure about that01:18
Hajuuheh s'ok01:18
Hajuuill get there01:18
Slackware77so?01:18
christoschris@christos:/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/input/misc$ ls01:19
christospcspkr.ko  uinput.ko01:19
christoschris@christos:/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/input/misc$ sudo modprobe pcspkr.ko01:19
christosFATAL: Module pcspkr.ko not found.01:19
Seveasmodprobe pcspkr01:19
christosok01:19
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Slackware77somebody know install icons in gnome?01:19
SeveasSlackware77, art.gnome.org/faq.php01:19
christosi m coming back in ten01:19
podgeSlackware77, Checking.. hang 5..01:19
thoreauputicSlackware77: dump them in ~/.icons or use the theme manager01:20
Slackware77thank u theD3viL01:20
Slackware77thank u thoreauputic01:20
tiglionabbitthank the devil, hallelujah!  (irssi user?)01:21
Hajuu * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)...                            [fail] 01:21
liable@help01:21
HajuuI like how descriptive that is01:21
Hajuureally01:21
Hajuuso helpful01:21
Hajuuhehe01:21
HappyFoolHajuu: look in the apache logs01:21
HappyFoolHajuu: oh, i was going to say ask in #apache01:21
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Hajuunobody seems to be around in #apache01:22
HappyFoolHajuu: regarding the mysteries you were inquiring after earlier01:22
HappyFoolah01:22
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=== Hajuu has an idea
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Hajuuhaha01:23
Hajuuidea failed01:23
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novaflarebrb01:24
johnnybezakhey guys what do i type to do a full distro upgrade from wartyto hoary (my sources.list is updated)01:24
phanterhello, I get this error: [CGIREG]  (10523) cgi reply not valid .What can I do about this?01:24
podgeSlackware77, apparently you can also update the gtkrc for the theme you want to add icons to..01:24
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hondjeanyone here ever build transcode?01:24
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admxapt-get uprade01:24
HappyFooljohnnybezak: read this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes01:25
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johnnybezakthnx happy fool01:25
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admxapt-get upgrade01:25
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phanteradmx, johnnybezak, actually it is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:26
admxthz01:26
liablephanter: after sudo apt-get update01:26
Slackware77which is the default terminal of ubuntu?,gnome terminal?01:27
phanterliable, i know but johnyboy just told that he updates his listings01:27
hondjeSlackware77: yes01:27
Slackware77hodgman,  can i make it transparent like aterm or xterm?01:27
we2byany one knows how to open a .ple file?01:27
Slackware77hondje, sorry01:27
thoreauputicslackd00d: yes01:27
hondjeYes, but you can't get crazy like with eterm :)01:27
thoreauputicoops01:27
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phanterhe, i do not have any experience with CGI. I want to help in the THINK project (finding a good drug), but when doing ./fadsetup it returns: [CGIREG]  (10523) cgi reply not valid01:28
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phanterwhat is that01:28
hondjeanyone know what ubuntu calls libz?01:28
christosi m back01:28
christosi modprobed the pcspkr01:28
thoreauputichondje: zlib ?01:29
hondjehey :D01:29
lonewolffafternoon all01:29
hondjethanks thoreauputic01:29
thoreauputicnp01:29
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HappyFooloff to see ROTS! *light-sabre noise*01:34
audiovoodooanybody having trouble adding the key for the marillat repository?01:34
liableaudiovoodoo: times out?01:35
audiovoodoojust hangs..01:35
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audiovoodooI followed the instructions on the quick start guide01:36
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liableaudiovoodoo: I have had that previously, maybe the keyserver is down01:36
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audiovoodoocould be...01:36
liableaudiovoodoo: try tommorrow01:36
audiovoodoopain if it is I want to get Azures running01:36
audiovoodoomaybe time to read up on how to use rpm's...01:37
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maxy_noobUbuntu doesn't seem to have installed my printer. How do I go about checking?01:38
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danko123456System>Admin>Printing.01:39
AvvYwhere does Azureus install to in Ubutnu when u install via apt-get?01:39
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Ubuntiani'm using pan: using 1 giga of ram ! :-/01:39
danko123456Hey, which programs can you use for streaming audio?01:39
maxy_noobhahahaha ... duh! What a noob!01:40
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danko123456well, you would have found it yuourself.01:40
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maxy_noobI looked in that menu list but didn't see it.01:40
maxy_noobWhat a moron!01:40
danko123456haha:) its ok:)01:40
audiovoodooLOL.. easier than u think to do01:41
danko123456AvvY: locate azureus?01:41
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AvvYdankol123456: huh?01:41
AvvYdankol123456: i have done searches for it, but it doesnt find the directory01:41
AvvYdankol123456: it only finds one file, but that isnt it01:42
danko123456in bin, hey?01:42
danko123456usr/bin...01:42
AvvYill have a look01:42
maxy_noobCan someone tell me how I can get gaim to logon at startup?01:42
danko123456no, no, I mean, that is where the file is...01:42
danko123456maxy_noob: System>Prefs>Session>Startup? tab...01:43
AvvYna, its the applications menu entre xml file01:43
bigfootusing GAIM, is there a way to search for users (meet new people)?01:43
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maxy_noobdanko123456, thanks01:43
danko123456bigfoot: gaim uses several protocols. I dont know if any of them support that option...01:43
danko123456welcom.01:43
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AvvYdankol123456: im running version 2.3.0.0, and the latest is 2.3.0.2, but it wont upgrade auto, so im trying to do it manually01:44
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danko123456you can check out their website to learn more about the protocols,. they have a section on that...  gaim.sourceforge.net01:44
audiovoodooyou can always go on MSN.. read the profiles and then add them as contacts01:44
danko123456AvvY: your issue seems trivial, wy even uipgrade?01:44
audiovoodoonot linked together like in messenger but it works01:44
AvvYdankol123456: coz it keeps pestering me to!01:44
danko123456ah...:)01:45
maxy_noobdanko123456, what would be the startup command for gaim?01:45
danko123456gaim01:45
danko123456stupid programs like that.:) I hate that...like, there is a .2 new version, must get new version:)01:45
maxy_noobthat's it?01:45
danko123456yup.01:45
maxy_noobhahahahahaha01:45
danko123456try it in a terminal.01:45
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ompauldanko123456, is that your final word on that :)01:45
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bigfooti'm getting wierd symbols (). how can i decipher it?01:46
danko123456ompaul: on what??01:46
christos_13its me again - i modprobed pcspkr.ko and still nothing01:46
ompauldanko123456, on doing stuff in a terminal - pun final word :)01:46
AvvYdankol123456: yeah i know, the stupid part is, that it should do it auto, but it keeps messing up01:46
danko123456bigfoot: where are you getting them?01:46
Seveasbigfoot, set your locale to a UTF-8 one :)01:46
audiovoodoobigfoot: it might be people sending you winks and thinks that GAIM can not handle01:46
danko123456oh, ompaul, the try it in a terminal was for maxy.01:46
bigfooti'm communicating to someone who is not speaking english.01:46
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bigfootsupposing it's not winks, how can i decipher the non-english text?01:47
danko123456AvvY: so doing it with apt-get doesnt do it?01:47
AvvYdankol123456: nope, it hasnt been added yet01:47
ompauldanko123456, okay01:47
Slackware77when i want install one program and i do make i receive errors...somebody have this problem in ubuntu?01:48
AvvYwhat errors?01:48
christos_13when i lsmod i get pcspkr on the list but it is used by 001:48
Slackware77main.c:2244: warning: `setup_signal_handler' defined but not used01:48
Slackware77make[1] : *** [main.o]  Error 101:48
Slackware77for example01:48
novaflaregona go out on a lim and guess your missing some libraies01:48
Slackware77but a lot of lines01:48
novaflareor not lol01:48
danko123456Slackware77: I would paste the whole error to pastebin.com, and post the URL.01:49
bigfooti think that if i get some fonts, then my problem of seeing stuff like  will be gone.01:49
podgeSlackware77, don't worry about the warnings.. they won't stop the compile from working..01:49
bigfootbut, how do i know which font i need?01:49
Slackware77podge,but says error 101:49
danko123456bigfoot: check out what seveas said up there.01:49
Slackware77and in slacware never i receive those errores01:49
podgeSlackware77, Do what danko said..01:49
bigfoothow do i change locales?01:50
danko123456hey, does anyone have an idea why streaming audio would not work01:50
danko123456Ive tried several programs.01:50
AvvYstreaming from where?01:50
danko123456some guys site.01:50
danko123456xmms, music player, totem movie player.01:50
AvvYare u sure its on ur end?01:51
DaylighthaterQuestion: where are the kernel sources of ubuntu01:51
Daylighthater??01:51
danko123456I am not, no.01:51
AvvYpost the url, ill check it01:51
RaskallDaylighthater: in apt01:51
Shuddertrixdanko123456: I'm able to listen to streams from bmp and xmms, so it might be his end01:51
DaylighthaterI want to install a bootsplash01:51
Shuddertrixin, i mean01:51
danko123456thank you: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/xenonproject_music.htm . one of those, any pretty much, you can try Only way to fly ...01:51
Slackware77podge,  danko123456  ,http://pastebin.com/29163701:51
DaylighthaterRaskall: Are you sure??01:52
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bigfootSeveas, how do i change locales?01:52
Daylighthaterthose are the apt-sources... but the kernel sources??01:52
kentShuddertrix, cant you use realplayer? Its not free (sadly) but it works great for me.01:52
Shuddertrixkent: I'm not the one with the problem, and I do use realplayer on occasion.01:52
Daylighthaterthe website www.bootsplash.org says it has to be in /user/src/linux01:52
Daylighthaterbut it isn't there01:53
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Slackware77podge,  danko123456  ,http://pastebin.com/29163701:53
liableDaylighthater: install it01:53
RaskallDaylighthater: package linux-source-2.6.1001:53
danko123456Slackware77: dunno myself, to me it always looks like the person that wrote the code didnt do a great job by the errors...01:53
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liableDaylighthater: then cd /usr/src01:53
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kentShuddertrix, ok, sorry. I stumbled over your comment and id looked like you had problems, sorry :)01:53
Daylighthaterok01:53
RaskallDaylighthater: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 and unpack it from /usr/src01:53
liableDaylighthater: then ln -a /usr/src/blah linux01:53
Slackware77danko123456,  but i have the same gkrellm in my slackware and works good01:53
Daylighthatersorry, I'm a real noob at this :d01:53
bigfootdanko123456, how do i change locales?01:54
Slackware77and with a lot of programs i want install i receive errors now01:54
liables/-a/-s01:54
danko123456kent, thanks, but no:)01:54
Shuddertrixdanko123456: I get an Internal Server Error 500. It is soundclick's end01:54
thoreauputicbigfoot: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales01:54
danko123456ah, thanks, same here.01:54
danko123456I would not use realplayer in linux...I would go into windows and use it, if I had to use that program...:)01:54
Shuddertrixdanko123456: To see if it might be your end, go to shoutcast's site and pick out a stream..01:54
bigfootthoreauputic, thanks. is there no GUI way of doing it?01:55
danko123456I will, thanks.01:55
thoreauputicbigfoot: I don't know01:55
ShuddertrixI'd plug one but i'm not awake yet..01:55
danko123456Slackware77: I am not really knowledgeable with make and what not...just a few things from everyday usage...:)01:55
liablehah01:55
danko123456It is on my end:(01:56
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danko123456thoreauputic: which program does one use to stream audio??01:56
danko123456ah, maybe I know what it is..01:56
danko123456just a sec.01:56
bigfootSeveas, "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" _is_ currently selected.01:56
danko123456please, just a sec, I know you want me to be here all the time, but just a sec...01:56
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danko123456:-p01:56
thoreauputicdanko123456: to listen? beep-media-player, rhythmbox, xmms, amarok... lots of them01:57
danko123456lsof /dev/what?? for sound...01:57
podgeSlackware77, What OS are you compiling under?01:57
Slackware77podge, ubuntu01:58
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podgeSlackware77, 5.04?01:58
Slackware77ys01:59
Slackware77yes01:59
podgeShuddertrix, What about muine?01:59
danko123456I have all those installed...01:59
danko123456not that one, tho..01:59
Shuddertrixpodge: Never heard of it, let me grab it.01:59
thoreauputiclsof /dev/dsp ?01:59
Slackware77I think there is problem and the computer have problem with c language01:59
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podgeShuddertrix, It gets the album covers off amazon etc..01:59
danko123456thanks,.02:00
danko123456I hate linux:)02:00
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danko123456too much stress, and frustration:)02:00
Slackware77im starting to hate ubuntu02:00
danko123456:)02:00
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podgeSlackware77, Isn't gkrellm available via Synaptics?02:00
thoreauputicof course it is02:00
timelessdoes anyone here have a current ubuntu live cd and time to test to see if something crashes?02:00
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ShuddertrixSlackware77: There is gkrellm in apt and a ton of modules too02:01
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thoreauputicenable universe and sudo apt-get install gkrellm02:01
Slackware77how Shuddertrix  apt-get gkrellm?02:01
Shuddertrixwell, actually about 15 modules, but probably the 15 good ones :P02:01
Slackware77what is universe?02:01
Shuddertrixsudo apt-get install gkrellm02:01
Slackware77E: Couldn't find package gkrellm02:02
danko123456the reason you got that message...02:02
thoreauputicSlackware77: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:02
pluffsyis it possible to create users which require no password? I'm switching my parents over to linux (their idea!) and in windows xp they have different users (so they have unique settings) but windows doesn't ask for a password on login.02:02
danko123456http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToAccessTheUniverseRepository as well.02:03
hondjeThat's really a very bad idea. If they actually WANT to use linux, then they're probably willing to accept passwd02:03
danko123456pluffsy: I dont even think there is such an option.02:03
Slackware77synaptic dont include gkrellm,i have full installation and i havent gkrellm02:03
m4lc0mdoes anyone knows if under linux the laptop embedded smart card reader are usable?02:03
danko123456Slackware77: try the URL from above.02:03
pluffsyhondje: why is it? I can see it's good to have a password on the network, but why local passwords? they don't have anything really important and it's only them who use the computer.02:04
thoreauputicSlackware77: you sources are wrong02:04
danko123456m4lc0m: try it...:)02:04
ShuddertrixSlackware77: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:04
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m4lc0m:)02:04
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m4lc0myes how?02:04
danko123456pluffsy: I donjt think it is possible.02:04
timelesscould someone drag me through using bug buddy?02:04
danko123456adduser wont even allow you to set the password to "password"02:04
rixthIs hardware support available for the "VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)" RAID chip? (Onboard, my chipset is a KT600)02:04
ShuddertrixUbuntu takes an hour or two of time to get it set up, but it's well worth it in my opinion :D02:04
timelesssudo passwd victim02:04
novaflaretook 45 minutes give or take on my comp02:05
danko123456m4lc0m: what I mean is...try using the card reader..02:05
pluffsydanko123456: damn...02:05
novaflarerealy its about the same as windows xp install time wise02:05
bigfoothi can someone help me install some non-english fonts into my computer?02:05
danko123456pluffsy: I think they should be fine, it is not that hard, they can have a post it with the passwords...02:05
Shuddertrixrixth: I have no conflicts with it, so I think the module it loaded for it (I have the same RAID chip, too)02:05
m4lc0mdanko123456: i've tried but nothing happens, it's normal i've nerver hoped that they are native supported and plug and play... (for a while i hoped...)02:06
rixthShuddertrix, so your using it for RAID? 0 or 102:06
Slackware77i did abraxas@ABRAXAS:~$ echo deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list02:06
Slackware77deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list02:06
Slackware77abraxas@ABRAXAS:~$ echo deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list02:06
Slackware77deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs etc...02:06
Slackware77sorry02:06
thoreauputicpluffsy: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automaticlogingnome02:06
podgepluffsy, http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/05-2004/10149.html02:06
Slackware77:( sorry!02:06
Shuddertrixrixth: I used it for raid0 once before02:07
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ShuddertrixCan't use it now, hardware problems02:07
danko123456thoreauputic: nice... Slackware77, I think you are on the wrong path. AM i wrong?02:07
Shuddertrixerr, hard drive problems02:07
Slackware77i dont understand danko12345602:07
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danko123456I think you want to do a sudo gedit/nano/... /etc/apt/sources.list02:07
Slackware77shit,this continue with errors02:08
rixthShuddertrix, okay, good to know, thanks.02:08
ShuddertrixAt that time, i was triplebooting slackware/windows XP/freebsd02:08
danko123456then, edit that file, uncomment the universe, there is comments on how to do it in the file.02:08
Slackware77all people have the same problem with ubuntu?02:08
danko123456Slackware77: please edit that file, and enable universe.02:08
danko123456 /etc/apt/sources.list02:08
podgepluffsy, I think that is what you want.. it's not autologin stuff.. it simply lets a user (who you put in a file) to login without a password..02:09
Slackware77which file danko123456 ?02:09
Slackware77ok02:09
Shuddertrixdanko123456: What about multiverse? ;)02:09
danko123456nice, good stuff.02:09
danko123456well, he can make his sources into nickruds, I would do it...02:09
Slackware77danko123456,  i uncomment the 2 lines?02:09
danko123456yes, something along those lines.02:10
thoreauputicSlackware77: for heaven's sake - just read what it says in the file02:10
danko123456hey, if you wanted to know why I was getting the error while streaming audio...it was cause I had killed esd at some [point so I can get an OSS aopp to worl.02:10
ShuddertrixSlackware77: once that is saved, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gkrellm02:10
danko123456yeah^02:10
danko123456Its not really playing now, netiher, but, I dont get errors, and the program is pretending it is playing music, so...02:11
pluffsypodge: great. thanks :)02:12
thoreauputicdanko123456: try changing the output plugin to esd in xmms or beep02:12
danko123456cramp:)02:12
podgepluffsy, Does it work?02:12
we2byany one installed webmin before?02:13
we2byI ahve problem logging into it02:13
danko123456nah, its working, that site might actually be down...02:13
danko123456shoutcast works now...02:13
danko123456thanks, tho.:)02:13
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thoreauputicIn Soviet Russia, RPMs alienate *you*02:14
thoreauputicsorry, /. ref02:14
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ShuddertrixSigh. I must be the only one getting tired of that.02:15
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toresbeyou are :P02:15
toresbeIn Soviet Russia, bad jokes tire of YOU!02:15
danko123456of what?02:15
danko123456:)02:15
Shuddertrixtoresbe: It might be because everything I say always usually gets twisted like that.02:15
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munkiwhat apt-source can I get firefox 1.0.4 ?02:17
theD3viLmunki, why you need firefox 1.0.4 ?02:17
munkitheD3vil , that is not the question .02:18
toresbemunki: just tell us why02:18
theD3viLyes :)02:18
Fator_Deewell, you could get it from debians repositories, but that is not recommended02:18
pluffsypodge: haven't tried yet. but it looks right...02:18
munkibecause I wan't the newest ver.02:18
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munkioff cause .02:19
podgepluffsy, Google is our friend.. :)02:19
Fator_Deemunki: get it from firefox's site and make it a .deb02:19
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danko123456munki, no...02:19
Shuddertrixmunki: with just a bit of configuring of about:config, ubuntu's so-called 1.0.2 is really 1.0.4. Just look at the about screen.. ;)02:19
danko123456well, maybe.02:19
munkiFator_Dee , thanks for an answer I can use .02:19
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pluffsybtw is it possible to start from a ubuntu livecd and have the users on a editable media like a usb key?02:20
pluffsyor my ipod02:20
ShuddertrixBesides, it's saying that I have a ubuntu package of 1.0.4. Which is odd, but whatever works..02:20
munkiShuddertrix , the about screen calls it 1.0.2 .02:20
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danko123456about:config , then vendorSub, and change the entry to 1.0.4 and that works for teh extensions siet, if that is what you are after.02:20
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Fator_Deemunki: it's really a 1.0.2 with the newest security updates02:20
sebastianI don't get sound when I play .avi movies in totem or VLC  can anyone help?02:20
munkiFator_Dee , oh okay . wierd :) I will get it from Mozilla Website, and make a deb . :)02:20
Scorpinfneed help: i have set DMA on the cdrom but still only get 2.5X on 8X dvdr media in k3b, whats the problem?02:21
pluffsywhy is totem usually the default media player on linux when vlc and mplayer seems to be sooo much better?02:21
thoreauputicmunki: the date on mine is 25 May - i think you can assume that's up to date02:21
danko123456munki: I dunno, maybe you can try what I said, if you are after the extensions.02:21
ShuddertrixI have 1.0.4~5.04ubp1+1.0.2-0ubuntu102:21
danko123456munki: there is a reason why they asked why you need it.02:21
ShuddertrixThat's my ubuntu version..02:21
podgesebastian, Check your mixer levels.. Are they all okay?02:21
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ShuddertrixI did, however, preform an upgrade before doing anything.02:21
danko123456pluffsy: in Ubuntu, it is because it is a gnu program./02:21
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munkidankol123456 , uhm . people could just answer me :) that's easy . I am going to update my Firefox, so it's the real 1.0.4 .02:22
HajuuI typed "apt-get remove apache2 --purge" but it only removed 81kb of data that seemed non-crucial to apache2 running.. and I was trying to COMPLETELY remove it.. So I then did a "rm -r '/etc/apache2/'" and then did another "apt-get install apache2" but it didn't install that directory again...02:22
sebastianhumm? how do I do that?02:22
Hajuuwhats goin on?02:22
pluffsydanko123456: oooh. I thought vlc was gpl:ed. silly me.02:22
podgesebastian, Right click on your volume control and Open Volume Control.02:22
danko123456munki, the thing is that, if you just need it for teh extensions, you can do what I said, and, I dont even kno if getting the file from their site will work, good luck!:)02:23
thoreauputicHajuu: it assumed you knew wtf you were doing - hence it didn't overwrite your changes02:23
danko123456pluffsy: maybe it is...but it is not gnu...02:23
danko123456maybe, who knows, that is why  would think it is so.02:23
Hajuuheh that was it's first mistake :P02:23
sebastianstill no sound02:24
Slackware77how can I move files (a lot of files) to other directory?02:24
podgesebastian, Are all the levels at 100%..?02:24
danko123456mv02:24
HajuuWell its ubuntu's fault for deciding that they wanted to completely change the apache2 configuration in the apt-get package to some abstract system they've setup...02:24
Slackware77yes danko123456  but for much files?02:24
danko123456sure/..02:24
podgesebastian, Do you sound when you login to Ubuntu?02:24
pluffsydanko123456: it was gpl:ed. why should it be gnu and why is not gpl fine? I mean firefox isn't gnu neither.02:24
danko123456I mean, tell me exactly, Ill tell you the exact command.02:24
Slackware77mv /..?02:24
sebastianyes, I have sound in the os but not when I try to play movies02:24
thoreauputicHajuu: AFAIK it's a pretty standard apache2 setup02:24
Slackware77i want to move 50 files to other directory02:24
Fator_DeeSlackware77: mv "whattomove" "wheretomove"02:24
danko123456I wouldnt personally use that, I would make epiphany the default browser.02:25
HajuuNot compared to any one i've ever setup before.02:25
Fator_DeeSlackware77: man mv02:25
danko123456pluffsy: I have no relation to Ubuntu, other than using it..02:25
bpucciopluffsy: as far as I can tell, it is indeed GPL'd https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/file/trunk/COPYING02:25
munkidankol123456 , I have just installed it from the website .02:25
danko123456Slackware77: are they the only files?02:25
danko123456munki, good stuff:)02:25
Slackware77what?02:25
podgesebastian, So MP3 etc works?02:25
danko123456Slackware77: can you use nautilus, and drag and drop/cut and paste?02:25
Slackware77danko,u r right02:26
HajuuSee.. What shits me right off.. Is I do my "apt-get remove apache2 --purge" BUT IT DOESNT REMOVE ANYTHING AT ALL02:26
danko123456dpkg --purge apache202:26
HajuuStraight afterwards I can restart the apache2 server like nothing ever happened02:26
sebastianpodge: well I haven't tried mp3 yet, I just installed ubuntu for the first time yesterday =)02:26
Slackware77danko123456,  no because the files are in hided folder02:26
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danko123456sebastian: your post is misleading then.02:26
danko123456you can view>show hidden files.02:27
Hajuudpkg says apache2 isnt installed.. but apt-get recognises it :/02:27
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danko123456Hajuu: not sure, I use apache1.02:27
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sebastianwhat do you meen?02:27
podgesebastian, Can you listen to CDs? Give it a go..02:27
HajuuYeah I want to take apache2 off so I can put apache1 on heh02:27
sebastianok, one sec02:27
danko123456sebastian: I mean yopu said that playing avis dont work for sound...which kinda sounds like other file types do work...02:27
danko123456whereas you really meant that sound dont work at all.02:28
sebastianaha, ok02:28
podgedanko123456 : Yep.. :)02:28
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sebastianCDs work02:28
danko123456:) well, anyhow, I love how the Linux books always cover that topic on how to ask questions.02:29
danko123456sebastian, what program again?02:29
danko123456for movies?02:29
we2byhow do I force apt-get to reinstall a software completely?02:29
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danko123456VLC?02:29
podgesebastian, Totem has a volume control.. Is that at 100%02:29
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sebastianVLC and Totem02:29
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sebastianyes it is02:29
we2byhow do I force apt-get to reinstall a software completely?02:30
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danko123456we2by: I would first look into synaptic b4 asking that.02:30
danko123456but, I am not sure.02:30
sebastiancould it be that I dont have the right codecs or something like that?02:30
thoreauputicwe2by: sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>02:30
yonilBhaa: I'm trying to open firefox in default and it says i cant since its already open. but its not open X_X02:30
danko123456perhaps, what did you install so far?02:30
Hajuuso.. how am I going to get apache2 uninstalled now?02:30
danko123456yonil: had that happen b4, create a new profile.02:30
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danko123456isnt it uninstalled now?02:31
Fator_Deeyonil: you don't have to create a new profile02:31
Hajuuno.02:31
sebastiannothing really02:31
yonilFator_Dee, what then?02:31
thoreauputicHajuu: have you tried just installing apache1 ?02:31
Fator_Deeyonil: delete ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock02:31
Hajuuthoreauputic:  but apache2 will be taking port 8002:31
danko123456sebastian: check this out then: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats .02:31
podgesebastian, maybe.. Do you have a mp3 lying around.. ? Try playing mp3 on totem..02:31
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yonilFator_Dee, will that delete any of my stuff ? (bookmarks, cookies etc.)02:32
HajuuAnd I can't stop the service because when I try.. it complains about missing files.02:32
danko123456thoreauputic: yeah, wehn you install apache1 if apache 2 is already there, it remvoes it.02:32
Fator_Deeyonil: no, just delete that "lock" file in that directory02:32
podgesebastian, or an ogg or wav...02:32
Hajuudanko123456:  really!02:32
HajuuWow02:32
yonilFator_Dee, ok sec02:32
danko123456I think so..02:32
HajuuI will have to try this02:32
thoreauputicdanko123456: that was my theory too02:32
sebastianok, off to find mp3s02:32
danko123456ya, I kno...it does that with ftpds...02:32
thoreauputicHajuu: I would think apache1 would conflict with apache2, thus apt would remove "2"02:33
danko123456podge, well, if he never installed any codecs, tehy cant m,agically b there.02:33
Hajuuhrm02:33
Slackware77if I have in folder 50 files .tar.gz ,can I extract all in one step?02:33
HajuuI dont think it will be able to though02:33
Hajuubecause apache2 is running02:33
HajuuI think thats why it failed to remove it before..02:33
podgedanko123456, Does ubuntu play mp3 out of the box?02:33
danko123456well, using a regex you could.02:33
thoreauputicHajuu: assuming of course you use apt to install it and don't play silly buggers with the packaging system ;)02:33
HajuuCause I forgot to shut it down before removing it02:33
danko123456podge, no, I dont think so.02:33
thoreauputicHajuu: it shouldn't matter02:34
danko123456Slackware77: I dont kno, try tar xzvf *02:34
danko123456or something.02:34
danko123456like that.02:34
thoreauputicHajuu: it would shut it down anyway02:34
danko123456that should do them.02:34
podgedanko123456, okay.. so an ogg would be better..02:34
Hajuuwell then it doesnt work propperly heh02:34
Hajuucause I ran the remove command fine02:34
thoreauputicHajuu: well, it would shut it down when it started apache 1, I assume02:35
danko123456podge, well, sound does play, so setting up the codecs was what I recomended:) recommended, sounds like I know what I am talking about...02:35
Slackware77no danko12345602:35
Hajuujust started apache202:35
Hajuuerr02:35
Hajuuapache102:35
Hajuuno good02:35
Hajuuapache2 still running.. still functioning02:35
sebastianpodge: mp3s also work02:35
danko123456wow, nice:)02:35
danko123456you have to have installed some codecs, then.02:35
Scorpinfneed help: i have set DMA on the cdrom but still only get 2.5X on 8X dvdr media in k3b, whats the problem?02:35
danko123456Slackware77: I dont know, you need to be more specific. paste some ls command outputs onto pastebin02:36
Fator_DeeScorpinf: did you tell k3b in somewhere to burn it at a greater speed?02:36
Hajuuooh I know what to do02:36
thoreauputicHajuu: you've stuffed up apt/dpkg with your directory removal, I guess: try apt-get -f install without any packages and see if it heals itself02:36
HajuuIf I restart..02:36
Fator_DeeScorpinf: options, preferences?02:36
podgesebastian, Download the rest of the codecs by following the instructions that dankoposted earlier..02:36
sebastianwell, maybe, I downloaded totem-xine from synaptic02:36
Hajuuok02:36
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herpesScorpinf, maybe the media can only be burnt at 2.5 speed02:36
sebastianok, will do, thanks alot02:36
danko123456welcome:)_02:36
Hajuuheh nah that didnt work02:36
Hajuubut if I restart.. apache2 should fail to start, just as it fails to stop02:37
Fator_DeeScorpinf: or your dvd-drive can't burn at those speeds02:37
podgesebastian, Sound is working.. So you are halfway there..02:37
thoreauputicHajuu: worth a try I guess02:37
Hajuube back02:37
danko123456some files dont have sound anyhow:)02:37
danko123456Im sick:(02:38
danko123456feel sorry for me...02:38
danko123456:)02:38
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podgedanko123456, Got a bug?02:38
danko123456I got a cold, end of May...02:38
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danko123456high fever, too, I think.02:39
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danko123456I should buy a thermometer/whateveritscalled.02:39
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danko123456thank you, whats OP?02:39
thoreauputicover proof :)02:39
danko123456I have some rum here. Should  I drink that, 'that good for colds?02:39
danko123456well..:)02:39
thoreauputicexplosive alcohol in other words ;)02:39
podgedanko123456, Shouldn't you be in bed?02:40
Fator_Deedanko123456: don't drink too much though :-)02:40
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danko123456I guess, maybe I should, it is bad for the fever...tghe screen is...I have a laptop, I could do that in bed...02:40
ScorpinfFator_Dee, my dvddriva can burn at 16x on dvdr, the media is 8x02:40
danko123456Im not a bed type person:)02:40
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Hajuuwell that more or less worked02:41
podgehajuu : I see you are on westnet.. where are you based?02:41
HajuuWA02:41
Hajuuand yourself?02:41
Fator_DeeScorpinf: then, did you specify k3b to burn your dvd at a greater speed than 2.5X?02:41
podgeHajuu, Swiftdsl in Geelong/VIC..02:42
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Scorpinfspeed is auto, or is there another option to consider?02:42
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liwen02:42
bornerhello02:42
linuksoHi! I wonder if ubuntu overwrites /ets/hosts on boot? I tried adding some hosts to it, but after I rebooted it was gone.02:42
Fator_DeeScorpinf: you can tell it a speed in which to burn somewhere, I'm not sure though where that option could be02:42
bornerdoes any one experiencing errors in backports.ubuntuforums.org ?\02:42
thoreauputiclinukso: no , of course not02:43
Fator_DeeScorpinf: just browse through configurations, options, etc02:43
borneranyone ?02:43
Fator_DeeScorpinf: I think that's the reason02:43
danko123456liwen: 02:43
thoreauputiclinukso: are you sure you saved to the right file?02:43
danko123456lol02:43
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linuksothoreauputic: yes :02:43
danko123456borner: what errors?02:43
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bornerCould not connect to backports.ubuntuforums.org:80 (66.246.118.209). - connect (111 Connection refused)02:44
danko123456open it in a browser.02:44
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liwenhi02:44
danko123456hey.02:44
bornerdanko can you check it at your end ?02:44
linuksothoreauputic: I'll just add it again, hope it sticks this time...02:44
difficultHi all, how do I change my default application for videos from totem to something else?02:44
thoreauputiclinukso: I have a hosts file here with hundreds of entries, and it stays on renoot02:44
thoreauputic*reboot02:44
danko123456ya, its donw, borner.02:44
liweni use linux just the first one week02:45
bornerdamn02:45
liwenweek02:45
bornerright when i need it @work02:45
bornerblah02:45
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danko123456difficult: right click on the file you are opening, properties, then open with.02:45
Hajuu"whereis apache2" apache2:02:45
Scorpinfhmm how do i set dma on hdc02:45
HajuuClean02:45
Hajuuhehe02:45
danko123456liwen, I have been using it since around october last year...02:45
thoreauputicdifficult: right click a file in nautilus, choose properties, open with > and check your new default02:45
podgeliwen, Check the file before you reboot.. to make sure you saves the file out correctly..02:45
Fator_DeeScorpinf: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc02:45
Scorpinfok tnx02:46
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danko123456podge: you got it mixed up, is that for linukso?02:46
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Scorpinfjust saw that my dvd device was called hdc in k3b02:46
thoreauputicdanko123456: oops didn't see yours , sorry :)02:46
difficultI can't see anywhere for the check for default02:46
podgedanko123456, apologies..02:46
liwendanko123456: hi so well02:46
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danko123456you guys are all apologizing, you are lucky Im not there....02:46
danko123456:)02:46
tiglionabbitI want to make a live/install ubuntu dvd.  Will k3b be able to do it?02:46
danko123456I guess Ill forgive you guys...02:47
tiglionabbitor what software do you recommend?02:47
thoreauputicdifficult: properties, open with, add02:47
bornerTHERE ARE MIRRORS !02:47
borner:P02:47
podgedanko123456, I'm watching the Open Solaris User Group video in the background..02:47
liwendanko123456:i meet so much question02:47
Hajuutiglionabbit:  Why not download one?02:47
Shuddertrixtiglionabbit: I've had DVD's burn correctly in k3b, so it should work ;)02:47
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tiglionabbitburn from iso though02:47
ShuddertrixYes02:47
danko123456liwen: I meet questions too, do you have one we could answer perhaps?02:47
tiglionabbitbecause it just has a "New Data DVD" button, and a Format DVD button, but all the rest say CD02:48
Fator_Deeborner: you have a disturbing nick, I misread it :-|02:48
liwendanko123456:i just come here for help,thanks02:48
liwenthanks02:48
podgeAnyone here running Sun Rays on Ubuntu?02:48
difficultthanks for the help with that one02:48
bornerhehe02:49
bornerits not my nick02:49
bornerits the domain comapny02:49
bornercompany's domain02:49
borner*02:49
difficultdoes anyone know why when I use mplayer I can't use full screen properly02:49
Fator_Deeborner: even worse then02:49
difficultit is just a box in the middle of the screen02:49
bornerbtw why when i try to apt-get i get : sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.502:49
bornerjava -version02:49
difficultand the outside is black02:49
tiglionabbitoh, there is a burn dvd iso image option in the menus.  I see02:49
bornererr02:49
bornersec02:49
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bornerWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!02:49
lonewolffdifficult: change the output to xv in the options02:49
danko123456borner: I have a clue, cause your graphics card does not play with it nicely.02:49
bornerwhat should i do to make them authenticated.02:50
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danko123456no, not borner, difficult,.02:50
liwenwhen i use root login .sound ok. when use another user no sound?02:50
liwenwhy?02:50
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Auraxk02:50
Auraxbetter?02:50
Aurax;)02:50
lonewolffliwen: maybee permissions on sound device?02:50
Shuddertrixtiglionabbit: Tools > DVD > Burn DVD ISO Image...02:51
thoreauputicliwen: check that the user is in the audio group02:51
liwenerrr?02:51
Auraxso what is the reason apt-get asks for autherntication02:51
Slackware77I decided unistall ubuntu02:51
Slackware77:(02:51
Auraxits never did02:51
tiglionabbitliwen: Add the user to the audio group?02:51
lonewolffSlackware777: why?02:51
lonewolffSlackware777: having problems?02:51
Slackware77is difficult for me lonewolff02:51
liwenok thx .i do it now02:51
Slackware77i preffer slackware02:51
lonewolffSlackware777: if you take some time at it it will become natural tho02:52
ShuddertrixSlackware77: Too scared to configure linux?02:52
AuraxWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!02:52
Aurax  sun-j2re1.502:52
Auraxwhy is this happening02:52
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Slackware77Shuddertrix, i cant install programs normally02:52
ShuddertrixSorry, to me it just seems you didn't give ubuntu a chance.02:52
podgeSlackware77, Ubuntu is easy compared to Slackware..02:52
herpesisnt slackware a pain to configure?02:52
KpjasHi I've got some problems with synaptic02:52
Slackware77no,Slackware havent problems02:52
yonilFator_Dee, dont know if you saw my last question, i got disconnected ..02:52
thoreauputicAurax: because you lack the gpg key for taht repository02:52
thoreauputic*that02:52
tiglionabbitslackware77: what didn't you like about ubuntu?02:53
Auraxhow can i get it ?02:53
lonewolffSlackware777: why cant you install programs, its very simple02:53
ShuddertrixSlackware77: Here, you can take baby steps into apt, download and install slapt-get ;)02:53
Slackware77tiglionabbit, i cant install programs...i dont know why,02:53
Kpjaswhile updating (synaptic) I got several warnings and errors02:53
Auraxok02:53
Auraxinstalling02:53
Aurax\gees02:53
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Slackware77Shuddertrix, i like compile,because with apt-get there are things i cant get02:53
podgeswaret isn't too bad on Slackware..02:53
yonilFator_Dee, nvm i got it working, thanks02:53
tiglionabbitslackware: Try running synaptic, selecting a package, and hitting Apply02:53
danko123456Kpjas: your sources are likely weird.02:53
ShuddertrixSlackware77: All you needed to do was add the universe and multiverse and run apt-get install gkrellm.02:54
Slackware77tiglionabbit, just i want install with make02:54
Kpjasdanko123456: why do you say that ?02:54
Slackware77Shuddertrix, i have gkrellm now02:54
danko123456Kpjas: cause you got errors.02:54
ShuddertrixSlackware77: Ok, live with your slackware then..02:54
danko123456kpjas, you know about the sources.list file?02:54
ShuddertrixSlackware77: This is #ubuntu, not #slackware.02:54
Slackware77but for example,i want put plugins,and i cant install one pplugin...02:54
tiglionabbitinstall with make?  You mean you want to compile your programs.  Okay02:54
thoreauputicSlackware77: if you prefer slackware then use it :) No one minds...02:54
ShuddertrixWhich reminds me, I should be in there too :P02:55
danko123456Kpjas: cat /etc/apt/sources.list, and paste that to pastebin.com, please.02:55
Fator_Deeyonil: no I didn't see it02:55
tiglionabbithere in debian land we use apt02:55
Slackware77but thank u for ur help today02:55
Kpjasdanko123456: OK02:55
Slackware77good luck02:55
Fator_Deeyonil: but you got the file deleted?02:55
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yonilFator_Dee, yeah it works now ;)02:55
danko123456debian landL:)02:55
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yonilFator_Dee, should i report that as a bug in bugzilla or something?02:55
Fator_Deeyonil: I think that's not a bug02:56
yonilFackamato, how come?02:56
yonilFator_Dee*02:56
Fator_Deeyonil: well, I'm not sure :-)02:56
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yonilok, thanks anywayz02:56
tiglionabbitheh, it's funny.  Have you seen the poll on the tux magazine site for "Which distro is good for newbies" ?  They're all debian!02:56
Fator_Deenp02:56
Kpjasdanko123456: http://pastebin.com/29164602:56
sebastiandanko12345 & podge: THANKS ALOT! it worked!02:57
we2byHow do I add use quoate support?02:57
danko123456sebastian: the page with codecs worked?02:57
sebastianyes02:57
danko123456excellent.02:57
danko123456:)02:57
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podgesebastian: danko123456 did all of the hard work..!! :)02:57
danko123456Kpjas: yeah, you have all these weird repos there.02:57
danko123456haha, I posted a link.02:57
danko123456kpjas, do you need any particular repos there?02:58
sebastianthats why I typed his name first ; )02:58
podgesebastian, So what CD did you use to test your audio?02:58
danko123456I posted a link:) anyhow, Kpjas, would you like to make your sources.list into what will work, and is the recommended one, or at least should be recommended...02:58
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sebastianpodge: Tiamat  - Judas Christ02:59
tiglionabbitJudas?02:59
Kpjasdanko123456: OK thnx what do U think about advice in http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories ?02:59
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sebastianyes02:59
danko123456Kpjas: many think its crap, its ok, I think, but it is kinda half ass, in that it doesnt tell you what it means to have all those enabled.03:00
steinare there any updates for hoary (5.04) ?03:00
danko123456Kpjas: this is the one that will work, for sure: http://pastebin.com/291647 .03:00
podgesebastian, Cool.. What about Metallica? :)03:00
we2byhow do I install named?03:00
danko123456you need to: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  and make the file look like that pastebin.03:00
tiglionabbitwell that entire guide is like that.  It just tells you to do things, without explaining what they really are03:00
novaflareyour talking about bind we2by im guessing03:01
sebastianpodge: oh yea, got all of their albums exept for the latest one03:01
tiglionabbitdanko: Why don't you just instruct them to run synaptic and check all the boxes in repositories?03:01
danko123456tiglionabbit: yeah, its ok tho, if you know what you are doing, and props to jiyuu0 for making it.03:01
novaflareopen synaptic and edit search bind03:01
danko123456tiglionabbit: I dont know how to do it.03:01
danko123456:) plus its a gui way, I like cli.03:01
tiglionabbitwell gui is easier for noobs03:02
Kpjasdanko123456: thnx g2g03:02
danko123456Likely, please go ahead and tell me how to do it that way,03:02
danko123456k, kpjas.03:02
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danko123456tiglionabbit: gui is prone to mistakes:) I like cli:) but, please tell me how to check those you said.03:03
novaflaretiglionabbit, i dont know some times its easyer to tell some one to do start run cmd and a command than to tell them to go through the gui on windows same for linux03:03
tiglionabbitRun synaptic, select settings->Repositories.  Click settings, and check "Show Disabled Repositories".  Now you can see all of them.  Check all the boxes, and hit okay.  It will uncomment all the repositories, and update apt itself03:03
danko123456for me that only reloads.03:03
danko123456as soon as I hit repos.03:04
danko123456And dont let me do anythuing.03:04
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tiglionabbitit just reloads?03:04
tiglionabbitit should open a window03:04
danko123456yup03:04
danko123456it does for a sec, and I have seen the window b4..03:04
thoreauputicdanko123456: you probably don't have any disabled repos :)03:04
frankgoodafternoon frfrom the netherlands03:04
podgeTalk later people..03:04
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tiglionabbitum, it's settings->repositories, on the top menu there...03:04
tiglionabbitnot the Reload button03:05
danko123456:))03:05
danko123456funny.03:05
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danko123456hi, frank.03:05
frankhi danko03:05
franktesting ubuntus right now03:05
tiglionabbith'lo liwen.  Did that work for you?03:05
liwenyes.go great03:05
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danko123456tiglionabbit: well, I know that much...Im telling you, GUI is prone to errors.03:05
liwenso great03:05
johnnybe1akhi guys03:05
danko123456nice.03:05
danko123456hi.03:05
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PhotonXquick question, if you guys dont mind. what package management does ubuntu have?03:07
danko123456I poured boiling tea into a glass...and the glass just cracked:) I am such a newb...03:07
danko123456I mind, sorry.03:07
danko123456apt-get03:07
PhotonXohh yeah03:07
PhotonXdebian based03:07
danko123456yup.03:08
PhotonXforgot, thanks!03:08
tiglionabbitphotonX: it uses debian's apt-get, but includes various frontends03:08
liwendanko123456.i installed  the gstreamer .but still cant open some avi03:08
danko123456welcome03:08
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danko123456http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats is the best I can do, liwen.03:08
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johnnybe1akanyone know a good low ram using alternative to firefox03:08
we2byHow do I add use quoate support?03:08
liwenok03:08
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PhotonXanyone have ubuntu on a 500mhz machine?03:08
cyber23hi03:09
cablefishi have on a 100mhz03:09
tiglionabbitphotonx: a friend of mine is attempting to install it on his 233mhz machine..   but hasn't succeeded yet03:09
cablefishi have on a 1000mhz*03:09
thoreauputicwe2by: do you mean "quota" ?03:09
PhotonXoh haha03:09
cyber23does anyone know if you can install windows media player in ubuntu with cedega03:09
PhotonXi have a spare 500mhz, 128ram machine sitting, thats why i was considering ubuntu03:09
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danko123456PhotonX: well, I used it on a 500-ish machine.03:09
tiglionabbitcyber23: why not just install win32codecs?03:09
PhotonXi tried archlinux but it was such a pain in the ass03:09
danko123456not veryu fast, remove gnome.03:09
danko123456use a minimal wm.03:09
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PhotonXdanko, i think im gonna keep it minimal03:10
PhotonXyeah03:10
Hajuuhow do I restart apache1?03:10
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PhotonX200 megs till i install ubuntu :] 03:10
PhotonXi hope im not let down03:10
danko123456apache restart, or httpd restart03:10
thoreauputicHajuu: apachectl I think03:10
danko123456as sudo, maybe03:10
ompaulcyber23, you can consider trying wine as long as you have a licence for wmp but to be honest there are so many players for ubuntu and linux in general that using a none native app seems to be a step backwards03:10
cablefishdamn theres  a lot of questions flying around03:10
cablefishi got one too03:11
johnnybe1akPhotonX: i just installed ubuntu (warty) on my new 500 mhz compaq armada03:11
cyber23ok03:11
ompaulcablefish, why did you say that ? :)03:11
Hajuuhmm.. for some reason its giving me a forbidden error03:11
tiglionabbitask us, cabelfish03:11
johnnybe1akwhilst its not snappy, its running fine03:11
Hajuu"I dont have permission"03:11
johnnybe1aki just need more ram03:11
cyber23how do I install the win32codec03:11
cablefishhow can i play mp3 files03:11
danko123456Man, I am listening to some stream...lame...03:11
tiglionabbitcyber: search synaptic for it03:11
cablefishwith gnome?03:11
johnnybe1akcablefish: you need to install the mp3 libarayies03:11
danko123456http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats cablefish.03:11
cablefishthanks guys03:11
johnnybe1aknp03:11
danko123456cyber23: link for you too^03:12
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liwenarz03:13
cyber23thanks03:13
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danko123456welcome:)03:13
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danko123456bitchx is only cli? right?03:14
liwenmy realplayer 10 dont  work. just 5 min ago it is normal used03:14
tiglionabbitwhat is cli?03:14
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danko123456command line interface.03:14
tiglionabbitoh03:14
Hajuuyeah03:14
danko123456k.03:15
tiglionabbitheh I always called that textmode03:15
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liwenrealplay -k?03:15
adam_helllo all03:15
adam_who can help me?03:15
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cablefishI remember when i first encountered CLI on my old amige03:15
danko123456textUI, yes.03:15
tiglionabbitdepends on the question, adam_03:15
cablefish*amiga03:15
adam_the subject is the animation03:15
adam_for my site03:15
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tiglionabbitwhat format?03:15
adam_(sorry i'm french so my english...)03:16
PhotonXif its flash, i can help03:16
adam_i want to do one03:16
tiglionabbitis there a french ubuntu channel?03:16
adam_i want to do an anim03:16
danko123456yeah. ubuntu-fr03:16
danko123456I think03:16
adam_yes there one but....03:16
we2byHow do I add use quoate support?03:16
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adam_?03:16
tiglionabbitadam_: I believe the gimp can do animated gifs if you install the animation package for it03:16
adam_really?03:16
rekahmm, i seem to have broken my system when i upgraded to the latest binutils package.03:17
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rekai now get this error when compiling programs:03:17
tiglionabbitYes.  It can also export mpeg.  It has quite a few animation options03:17
danko123456thats me in bitchx, dabaSlon03:17
reka/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/../../../crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized03:17
rekacollect2: ld returned 1 exit status03:17
rekamake: *** [threshold]  Error 103:17
we2byyou can't install mysql through apt-get?03:17
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danko123456you can, yes.03:17
adam_??03:17
adam_and for me, just Gimp?03:17
PhotonXubuntus burnin :D03:18
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Echelon-Hhi03:18
PhotonXwishmeluck guys03:18
ompaulany program worth its salt will be available with apt-get03:18
Hajuuhttp://pastebin.com/291656 -- Theres my httpd.conf ... Anyone tell me why connections from me to myself are "forbidden" to "/" ?03:18
ompaulsome really new bleeding edge stuff might not have made it there but such is life03:18
tiglionabbitgood luck, photonx03:18
rekaanyone else experience this problem?03:18
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Echelon-HBreezy is the new very of ubuntu I guess?03:18
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cablefishcan i get xmms player working in ubuntu gnome?03:19
tiglionabbitompaul: anything worth its salt that has been available for 3 years you mean03:19
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rekacablefish: yep.  i'd check out beep-media-player though.  it's cleaner03:19
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rekaEchelon-H: correct03:19
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liwensome difficulty for me03:19
certhei people curios anyone know how to convert mpeg files to avi or rm ??03:19
certin linux platform03:19
cablefishbeep media player... i'll check it out03:19
certwhat software am i looking for?03:19
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danko123good luck.03:20
PhotonXmencoder probably?03:20
PhotonXcomes with mplayer i think03:20
ompaultiglionabbit, still newer than XP but then let me see ubuntu is how old ;-)03:20
liwenlinux is some difficulty for me.03:20
Echelon-His there anyway I can communicate with my ntfs partition through linux?03:20
danko123Hajuu: please rephrase yoru question03:20
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PhotonXresearch captive-ntf, Echelon-H03:20
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PhotonXntfs*03:20
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Psycohi03:20
danko123hey03:20
PhotonXhi03:20
raDeonj003:20
liwenrealplay -r /mydoc/12/13.rm03:20
Echelon-HPhotonX, k thx03:21
liwenno respond03:21
PsycoI have a problem with qtparted03:21
raDeonmount -t ntfs03:21
liwenso i ctrl+c03:21
Echelon-HraDeon, was that for me?03:21
raDeonyes03:21
ompaulliwen, realplayer perhaps03:21
PsycoIt doesn't allow to resize the main partition (ext2)03:21
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raDeonmount -t ntfs /device /mount/point03:22
Psycoanyone can help me?03:22
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liwensomeone speak chinese?03:23
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rekaEchelon-H: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs  & http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs03:23
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tiglionabbitis there a chinese ubuntu channel?03:23
liwenoh?03:23
liweni search03:23
DarthWhat is the best site for getting apollon working03:23
johnnybe1akDarth: whats the problem03:24
Darthcan't install apollon03:24
dabaSlonalo...03:24
Darthcan you help03:24
certanyone tried installing postgresql 8.0 in ubuntu?03:24
johnnybe1akDarth: i can give it a red hot go03:24
danko123there is an apollon in my synaptic.03:25
Darthcool03:25
Darthis there03:25
danko123these are my sources.list http://pastebin.com/291661 .03:25
cablefishreka you recomended beep media player.. I'm a total newbie for the record... Should i choose any of the packages or what download of BMP is suitable for ubuntu gnome03:25
danko123make yours that, and update, and install apollon03:25
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audit_the CDROM drive on my laptop is borked, is there a way I can do a FTP install on it?03:25
danko123audit_: yeah, a network install, somehow, dunno.03:26
r0dtrying to get kernel source i386 from apt-get cache, but I'll i see in the tree is images of the kernel03:26
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DarthI have no idea how to add them03:26
rekacablefish: open a terminal, then type 'sudo apt-get install beep-media-player'03:26
danko123darth, are you in kde?03:26
audit_well how do I do a network install?03:26
danko123audit_: I dont know. I know its possible, and works.03:26
Darthgnome03:26
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cablefishthanks reka03:27
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danko123darth, then, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and make the file look like that pastebin, save, close, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apollon03:27
thoreauputicr0d: apt-cache search linux-source03:27
Hajuuhttp://pastebin.com/291656 -- Theres my httpd.conf ... Anyone tell me why connections from me to myself are "forbidden" to "/" ?03:27
danko123dude, rephrase that, I dont get your part after the ...03:28
Darththanks03:28
danko123welcome03:28
dabaSlonwelcome03:28
johnnybe1akHajuu: do you have read permission to /03:28
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cablefishehhr beep-media-player... Unable to find package?03:28
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Hajuuwell the / is in my home folder03:28
Hajuuso yes03:28
Hajuuheh03:28
cablefishWhat package should i download?03:28
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danko123cablefish: you can also use synaptic, and search.03:28
rekahow can i upgrade an ndividual package using apt-get?03:28
raDeoncablefish, yes03:28
raDeonreka, yes03:29
tiglionabbithajuu: / should be the root folder, not home.03:29
r0dthoreauputic, yea i finally got it with linux-source-2.6.11. thx03:29
Darthdo I delete the rest03:29
danko123raDeon: lol...yes...03:29
raDeon;)03:29
Hajuutiglionabbit:  It is.. The root folder I want to use is in my home directory03:29
tiglionabbithome should be at /home/username/03:29
Hajuuyeah..03:29
rekaraDeon: ?03:29
danko123darth, yeah, remove what is tehre, put in what is in the pastebin03:29
danko123reka, he is jj.03:29
Hajuuit is /home/hajuu/documents/public_html03:29
danko123no, Hajuu, it is not, but, maybe it is....03:29
rekadanko123: obviously i don't get it.03:30
Hajuuthats where I have configured it for if you read my httpd.conf03:30
Hajuu:)03:30
danko123reka, he was like, you had a question, and he said yes, cause he thought it was funny.03:30
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raDeonshe*03:30
johnnybe1akubuntu success story: i bought a laptop today (a compaq armada m300) everything worked perfect out of the box even power management03:30
danko123Hajuu: please tell me what you are talking about..I really wanna kno...how about, what does Anyone tell me why connections from me to myself are "forbidden" to "/" ? mean03:30
raDeoni am hot debian girl03:30
johnnybe1aklol03:31
tiglionabbitk here goes, burning my live/install dvd03:31
thoreauputicreka: just do sudo apt-get install <package>  - if there is a newer one it will be upgraded03:31
Hajuuwell when I try to connect to "http://127.0.0.1/" it gives me a forbidden error03:31
danko123Hajuu: does that mean, that you cant connect to localhost in your browsetr?03:31
Hajuuand I meant that im connecting to myself, as the server is on my computer03:31
Hajuuyes03:31
danko123ah, I thought that might be it.03:31
Hajuulol03:31
thoreauputicHajuu: try localhost instead03:31
Hajuummkay03:31
danko123well, Hajuu, I think that the apache user is www-data, and that he doesnt have read permissions to taht folder, am I right?03:32
Hajuulocalhost returns forbidden too.. it isnt that.. I've misconfigured something somewhere that wont give me access or something03:32
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Hajuuohhhh03:32
Hajuuyour right03:32
HajuuI havent set that up03:32
Hajuuhaha03:32
rekaOK.  i can't seem to upgrade binutils.  i get this error in synaptic:  "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/binutils_2.15-5ubuntu2.2_i386.deb:  unable to open files list file for package `memtest86+': Input/output error"03:32
deepspringwhat happened to the azureus package?03:32
dabaSlonnice^03:33
thoreauputicreka: sudoapt-get update03:33
rekathoreauputic: thanks.03:33
Hajuuso how can I set it up so that both hajuu and www-data can access /home/hajuu/documents/public_html/ ?03:33
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tiglionabbitthoreaputic with a space in it03:33
danko123I would not do that.03:33
thoreauputicoops03:33
thoreauputictypo sorry03:33
deepspringls -al03:33
Hajuuno?03:33
deepspringerrr03:33
deepspringwrong window03:33
thoreauputicreka sudo apt-get update (correction)03:34
danko123Hajuu: public_html is a fodler that, if apache is configured in a right way, every user on the comp that has a public_html folder can be accessed through http://localhost/~username03:34
danko123does that make sense, teh sentence?03:34
tiglionabbithmm, k3b is writing my dvd at 1x speed.  Is that normal?  I've never written a dvd before03:34
raDeonbiggest typo of the day "how do i install a program", "rm -rf /"03:34
danko123but, you can do that too.03:34
tiglionabbitlike that's a typo, radeon03:34
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johnnybe1akif run flux as my wm but still use gnome apps like nautilus, will there be any performance benifits03:34
rekathoreauputic: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29166403:34
thoreauputicraDeon: don't even type that asd a joke, please03:34
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Fator_Deetiglionabbit: it could be normal, or could be not, it depends on a lot of things03:35
eruinjohnnybe1ak, not really03:35
tiglionabbitadd sudo to the front of it, for comedic effect03:35
danko123The two things you can do is, allow everyone read access to that folder, or chown -R  www-data /home/hajuu/documents/public_html/03:35
johnnybe1akeruin: yeah didn't think so03:35
rekastill the same error.  i think i tried to upgrade it earlier and it broke my system. i can't compile programs now.03:35
Hajuuill chown -R it03:35
cyber23what is my gift install03:35
danko123ok, sounds good.03:35
danko123tell me if it works.03:35
cyber23its for apollon03:35
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danko123Hajuu: want a LAMP book? it has a chapter that will tell you about Apache...03:36
johnnybe1akcyber23: try something like giftd -v from the command line03:36
rekathoreauputic: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29166503:36
thoreauputicreka: your dpkg is borked03:36
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rekathoreauputic: which is why i think i need to upgrade binutils03:36
Hajuuroot@ubuntu:/home/hajuu/documents # chown www-user public-html03:36
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Hajuuchown: `www-user': invalid user03:36
danko123www-data?03:36
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cyber23nothing03:36
raDeondont worry i do it all the time and i've calculated that this channel is too small to have someone actually type it03:36
danko123just a sec03:36
rekathoreauputic: great. :(  how would i go about fixing it?03:37
thoreauputichmm03:37
johnnybe1akraDeon: its still stupid03:37
danko123whats teh formula for the calculation, raDeon?03:37
raDeonthat's easy03:37
danko123Hajuu: yeah, its www-data03:37
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thoreauputicsomething like dpkg-reconfigure --all (but that may be wrong - read the man)03:37
danko123Hajuu: want that book?03:37
tiglionabbitreka: for that you need the build-essential package..03:37
danko123It has a chapter on Apache, explaining the 80 % ...03:37
darkauditd'oh! d'oh! d'oh! last freakin' lap!03:38
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danko123of the 80-20 metaphore.03:38
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rekatiglionabbit: i already have it installed.03:38
raDeon(channel size / channel size - 1)03:38
tiglionabbito03:38
danko123raDeon: that gives 0...hm...03:38
rekatiglionabbit: i could compile programs earlier.  now i seem to have stuffed up either gcc or the linker03:38
raDeonno you did it wrong!03:38
danko123reka, do you always compile programs, or only sometimes?03:38
thoreauputicreka: have you tried `sudo apt-get -f install` without any packages ? Sometimes that heals the system for you03:39
raDeoni get 1.003:39
raDeonand that 1 guy is me03:39
rekadanko123: i'm doing a programming course :03:39
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raDeonso nothing to worry about03:39
danko123also, apt-get install -f it is different, believe it or not.03:39
danko123reka: so, you cant compile anything?03:39
tiglionabbitradeon: anything divided by itself is one.  1 - 1 = 0.03:39
danko123weird.03:39
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danko123c++? what lang?03:39
rekadanko123: i think i wrecked something after an upgrading things in synaptic03:39
danko123reka, did you post your sources.list above?03:39
dabaSlonno, I didnt:)03:40
raDeonyou are dividing 480 by 479 you dont get 003:40
tiglionabbitsynaptic shouldn't wreck things...03:40
danko123that was me...03:40
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rekadanko123: c.  a program that compiles cleanly on another computer gives the error posted above now.03:40
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tiglionabbitradeon: division takes precedence over subrtaction.  Use parenthesis03:40
danko123reka, k, well, did you post your sources.list to pastebin yet?03:40
raDeontiglionabbit, i did...03:40
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raDeonit works with my calculator like that03:40
raDeonso it's good enough for me03:41
Hajuuthe chown didnt work03:41
raDeon(channel size / (channel size - 1))03:41
rekasources.list: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29166603:41
spiralhmmm, could anyone here give me the url of a backport repository for hoary ?03:41
MuiskeHow can I show the icons (filesystem, documents etc) on the desktop?03:41
rekathoreauputic: i'll try that03:41
tiglionabbitmuiske: drag them there.03:41
tiglionabbitmuiske: or right-click it and add thingamabobs...03:42
danko123Muiske: also, ubuntuguide.org has that shown.03:42
MuiskeThanks03:42
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danko123Hajuu: whats up? not working?03:42
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danko123sudo chown -R www-data /home/hajuu/documents/public_html/ ??03:42
rekathoreauputic: apt-get -f install didn't work :-(03:42
thoreauputicreka: OK - well it was worth a try :(03:43
danko123reka: you only need testing for marillat. I hear, anyhow...03:43
danko123http://pastebin.com/291661 reka, maybe make it this.03:43
danko123then update03:43
rekadanko123: yeah, i've commented it out.03:43
rekadanko123: OK, hang on.03:43
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yonilhow can i check all the modules that are currently working ?03:43
danko123reka, yeah, I kno, I saw it...just saying...geezz..:)03:43
tiglionabbitlsmod?03:43
danko123jj03:43
dabaSlonlala03:44
danko123that guy dabaSlon is a moron...03:44
dabaSlonso are you, Danko...03:44
danko123well, screw you...03:44
dabaSlondude, get off my case...03:44
tiglionabbitdrama03:44
danko123:)03:44
danko123its me:)03:44
dabaSlonno its not...03:44
danko123yeah, I am weird...03:45
DaylighthaterQuestion I've just unpacked my sources package what do I do next??03:45
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johnnybe1akwill a hoary upgrade get me a new kernel?03:45
thoreauputicdanko123: umm.. it was funny for about 5 seconds, dude03:45
danko123Daylighthater: what are you doing, tho??03:45
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deepspringok this is a dumb question has azureus and its dependancies been removed from backports???03:45
r0dDaylighthater,  you trying to compile a kernel?03:45
DaylighthaterI want to compile my sources later on, because I'm going to install a bootsplash :d03:45
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DaylighthaterI like the bootsplash from www.bootsplash.org03:46
tiglionabbitdaylighthater: after you unpack a source package, the first thing you want to do is look in it for a README03:46
lonewolffdeepsring: you could just download java and get azureus from their site and then it works03:46
tiglionabbitif there is no readme, read the install.sh script or makefile for hints03:46
deepspringya, but I'm a lazy bumb who's just done a fresh install03:47
deepspring:p03:47
r0dDaylighthater, thx for linux. i think im gonna do that now :003:47
r0d*link03:47
johnnybe1aklol im like he gave you linux what03:48
r0d:)03:48
danko123Daylighthater: did you read their docs?03:48
DaylighthaterIt's cool isn't it :d03:48
m4lc0mHi all, Can anyone help me about setting up a VPN connection with PPTP? I've tried with some internet searchs but now i'm in a static point! If you are so kind the problem is on ubuntuforum (is too long to explain here) -->  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37901   Thanks in advance03:48
novaflareany one have any tips for general performance increases for ubuntu ?03:48
novaflaresome tweaks in other words heh03:48
r0dI just looked at the pics, and it looks koooool03:48
DaylighthaterI tried to, but i'm to much of a noob to find my way :s03:48
r0dlet me take a crack at it.03:49
danko123Daylighthater: well, stick with r0d, he is gonna try it now.03:49
r0di'll pm you when im done, if your still on03:49
Daylighthaterk03:49
Daylighthaterok03:49
DaylighthaterI surely will be :d03:49
nihaoRhythembox and Beep stuck. Is it a problem caused by Gstreamer?03:49
we2byhow do I give some one shell access with chroot?03:49
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tiglionabbitwe2by: give someone shell access how?  Don't you mean ssh?03:50
we2byppl calls that shell access03:50
danko123nihao: are the programs using esd?03:50
danko123nihao: stuck on what, as well,.03:50
we2bydanko123, in gnome? yes03:51
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tiglionabbitwe2by: what are you trying to do?03:51
linuxboyDoes anybody know if there are ubuntu .debs for the nightly builds for thunderbird?03:51
we2bygive some one ssh access?03:51
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tiglionabbitah03:52
tiglionabbitlemme fool around with that for a sec and I'll have an answer for you03:52
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LinuxJonesm4lc0m, have you checked your settings in network-admin and selected the default gateway device ?03:52
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nihaodanko123, I open rhythembox, it shows up, but then stop responding..03:52
danko123linuxboy: I would not think so, but I dont know.03:52
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johnnybe1aknihao: what does it say if you run it from the cli03:53
danko123ok, do you know what output plugin it is using?03:53
danko123nihao^03:53
linuxboydanko123: im just taking a shot in the dark ;)03:53
danko123its possible.03:53
linuxboyit is, i just doubt it :)03:53
linuxboyi might attempt to make a package myself...03:54
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nihaojohnnybe1ak: the same. I start it in terminal, then it becomes dummy. I had to kill it.03:54
johnnybe1aknihao: what output is there in the terminal if any03:54
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nihaodanko123: how do i know it used ESD or something else?03:55
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danko123it would maybe be in options, or properties, I dont use those 2 programs..03:55
tiglionabbitwe2by: there appears to be a faq about ssh here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto03:55
danko123g2g lay down.03:55
nihaojohnnybe1ak: I input "rhythembox", press RET, it shows up, it stucks, then I killed it :-) no other output.03:56
linuxboywhats the ubuntu backport site? http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ doesn't want to work03:56
Hajuudanko123:  Uhm... yeah I redid that chown03:56
Hajuustill no good03:56
HajuuI think03:56
Hajuuthat its a problem with my httpd.conf not with my permissions03:56
johnnybe1aknihao: hmm does sound work in other apps no worries?03:57
m4lc0mLinuxJones: I tried even if it won't work, I'm in a univesity net so i'm behind DHCP I cannot change the settings03:57
danko123Hajuu: jsut a sec, I have to go lay down.03:57
johnnybe1akHajuu: ahve you tried putting it in a different folder03:57
johnnybe1akmines in /var/www03:57
johnnybe1akworks np03:57
nihaojohnnybe1ak: sound is OK.03:57
Hajuuaw ok03:57
johnnybe1akhave you got the latest rhythmbox03:57
johnnybe1akhajuu::)03:57
Hajuurhythmbox ? I have the one that came with the latest dist of ubuntu heh03:58
Hajuuwhys that?03:58
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johnnybe1akhajuu: no that was for nihao03:58
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johnnybe1ak*major confusion*03:58
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Hajuuoh03:59
Hajuuheh03:59
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dabaSlonok, I am laying down now:)03:59
LinuxJonesm4lc0m, so your device is active in network-admin ?03:59
dabaSlonHajuu would you like that book?03:59
r0dDaylighthater, while your waiting do "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1103:59
Hajuuwhat books that?04:00
dabaSlonLAMP, A stands for apache04:00
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dabaSlonit has a chapter on it, 30 pages roughly, will tell you lots about it.04:00
capiis it possible to have Ubuntu read and write files like they are on the computers harddrive with samba?04:00
rekalinuxboy:04:00
rekadeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:00
rekadeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:00
reka[ubuntuguide.org] 04:00
Hajuuhmmm I've setup several apache servers before heh04:00
Hajuujust on windows04:00
nihaojohnnybe1ak: rhythembox version 0.8.8. i re-installed it twice today.04:00
Hajuunot linux04:00
lonewolffcapi: just mount the samba share and then yes04:00
dabaSlonHajuu well, if you would like, that book explains the config files, and that.04:01
m4lc0myes, but if yo read the topic on ubuntuforum i posted output of ifconfig and route....  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3790104:01
m4lc0mLinuxJones: yes, but if yo read the topic on ubuntuforum i posted output of ifconfig and route....  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3790104:02
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m4lc0msorry04:02
dabaSlontoxicfume are you here>?04:02
rekadanko123: no good :( using your sources list i still get the same error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29167104:02
toxicfumedabaSlon: yup04:02
dabaSlonreka, updated>?04:02
dabaSlontoxicfume sources done?04:02
rekadabaSlon: see the pastebin link04:02
dabaSlonreka, that was not the fix, that was just a start/.04:02
toxicfumedabaSlon: yup..checking for typos,...04:02
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johnnybe1akhow do i check ram usage04:03
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toxicfumedabaSlon:okay its done04:03
lonewolffjohnnybelak: top from terminal would show you04:04
rekadabaSlon: ah, whoops.  here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29167404:04
dabaSlonreka k, read the pastebin, yeah, I mean binutils is not something I have ever heard of...04:04
LinuxJonesm4lc0m, your trying to use vpn to control another computer ?04:04
johnnybe1aki need more ram :)04:04
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tiglionabbitisn't binutils the basic things like ls?04:05
dabaSlonreka I would install build-essential, for compioling, havethat installed?04:05
rekadabaSlon: have you been following my thread?  i'm having linking problems and correct me if i'm wrong but ld is in binutils04:05
rekadabaSlon: yes, i have be installed.04:05
m4lc0mLinuxJones: No I'm in a university net and I need VPN to go on internet (is the only way they provide the service)04:05
dabaSlonwow, I am lost, werent you trying to compile something?04:05
dabaSlonmake dont work...04:05
dabaSlonsomething like that?04:05
toxicfumedabaSlon: should i try apt-get update?04:05
dabaSlonyeah, pleae.04:05
LinuxJonesm4lc0m, ohh I see04:06
dabaSlonsudo04:06
rekadabaSlon: correct: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29166504:06
lonewolffdabaSlon: i think he was getting errors about ld when running make04:06
rekathat's my problem04:06
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m4lc0mLinuxJones: Yes, you see and unforunatley to be here I'm using windows, i cannot use ubuntu here :(04:06
tiglionabbit=\  what tha.  I installed openssh-server, and am attempting to connect to myself, but it's timing out04:06
tiglionabbitwell not timing out, but taking forever and not connecting04:07
toxicfumedabaSlon: I'M STILL GETTING THE gpg ERROR LIKE I WAS GETTING YESTERDAY :(04:07
toxicfumeopps04:07
toxicfumesorry for the caps04:07
dabaSlonyup, you sure you dont have marillat uncommented, the last entgry in sources.list should be commented out.04:07
toxicfumedabaSlon: it is commented out04:08
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tiglionabbithm, ah, was a problem with dyndns.org.  nm04:08
LinuxJonesm4lc0m, I wish I could help dude I am sure someone will reply to your posting on the forum....GL04:08
tiglionabbitmm, hot fresh burned ubuntu dvd!04:08
dabaSlontoxicfume a gpg error, hey?04:08
tiglionabbitwho wants a byte?04:08
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cyber23anyone know of a good site to get an ati x800pro working04:09
cyber23please help04:09
m4lc0mLinuxJones: I hope.. :)04:09
capiI have samba running on Ubuntu, what do i need to do to read files off of a win machine, ubuntuguide doesn't go over it04:10
toxicfumedabaSlon: it says the following "W: GPG error: http://security .ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG (alphanumer characters here) Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster.buntu.com>"04:10
dabaSloncyber23 yeah, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo but, a lot of ppl fail, dunno why...04:10
cyber23thanks04:10
tiglionabbitcapi: it should be able to do that already.  I can04:10
lonewolffcapi: goto places and network servers and your workgroup/windows server should show up in there under windows network04:10
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Hajuuhmm... my apache works if I reconfig it for /var/www...04:10
Hajuuso it must be a permissions issue04:10
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Hajuubut oh well.. ima just use /var/www04:11
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dabaSlonwell, somewhat, also x needs to be ennabled for a folder for it to be able to open04:11
LinuxJonescapi, there is a whole section on how to do that in the samba/windows section04:11
dabaSlonthat is a weird error, I think.04:12
toxicfumedabaSlon: yeah i was having this problem yesterday too04:12
dabaSlontoxicfume I would double check the spelling errors.04:12
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tiglionabbittoxicfume: that means the packages aren't authenticated.  You can still install them.  Refresh your repositories04:12
syndis there a damn small linux room?04:13
toxicfumedabaSlon: i did that,, even yesterday :/04:13
tiglionabbitrefreshing should re-authenticate most of them.  Things from multiverse may not be authenticated though, and will always give you that message04:13
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toxicfumetiglionabbit: how?04:13
novaflarehmm reading this and wondering if theres any noticable gain from installing a cpu specific kernel http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713&highlight=tweak04:13
tiglionabbitin synaptic, click on reload.  Or say sudo apt-get update04:13
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dabaSlontiglionabbit I should tell you that his X is not working yet.04:14
lonewolffsynd: #damnsmalllinux04:14
toxicfumetiglionabbit: well x isnt working for me..and i get that error from apt-get update itself04:14
tiglionabbitnovaflare: I installed the i656 kernel.  It goes faster.  It was easy to install, and took no effort04:14
tiglionabbittoxicfume: oh shit.04:14
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marjorieHi there, ive just had to switch to a really bad old monitor, when X starts i see the picture perfectly for afew seconds then it disappears04:15
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novaflareso its litterly as easy as sudo apt-get and reboot?04:15
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tiglionabbityes04:15
tiglionabbitit is04:15
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marjorieI have tried setting very 'generous' values in x config for refresh and res..04:15
tiglionabbitit will add a new entry to grub.04:15
novaflarein other words i should grab the linux-k7 sence my cpu is a amd tbird04:16
tiglionabbityup04:16
dabaSlontiglionabbit I should also tell you, that that is the error he gets when doing sudo apt-get update...:-p04:16
novaflarek ty may as well do it now04:16
novaflareand i can boot to both kernels cool04:16
novaflareheh04:16
tiglionabbitdabaslon: he said that.  And yeah, I'm stumped..  that shouldn't happen04:16
capiLonewolf: I'm running in CLI-only, what would be the equivilent to places and network servers?04:16
toxicfumeargh, why is this happening to me lol04:16
marjorieCan someone help with my basic X problem?04:17
tiglionabbitdunno man.  Given it's ubuntu, I'd say grab a hoary cd and reinstall.  =[04:17
dabaSlontiglionabbit yeah, it should not with ubuntu repos, for marillat it is a common thing.04:17
toxicfumetiglionabbit, done that, twice04:17
dabaSlontoxicfume please double check spelling, while I look into this.04:17
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toxicfumedabaSlon: yup, doing that as  type04:17
dabaSlontiglionabbit thats not really expert advice:-p04:17
tiglionabbitmarjorie: what's the prob?04:17
tiglionabbitdabaslon: I know.  I'm not an expert04:17
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marjorieI switched to a rubbish m,onitor..04:18
dabaSlonmarjorie done dpkg --reconfigure xorgconf something like that?04:18
mileniunbuenas, alguien que hable cristiano????? jeje04:18
marjoriei have changed the res and refresh rates to 'generous' values in xconfg404:18
tiglionabbitmileniun: #ubuntu-es ?04:18
marjoriewhen x starts i seem my nvidia pci perfectly in 800x600 for a few secs then it disappears04:18
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LinuxJonesmarjorie, your refresh rates are too low ?04:18
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mileniungracias04:19
dabaSlonde nada04:19
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toxicfumedabaSlon: yesterday..someone in this channel tried asking me to put the IP of the security url in sources.list, even that didnt work04:19
synd-anyone familiar with DSL? (damn small linux)04:19
johnnybe1akheard of it04:19
synd-i have a few questions but the DSL chan isnt helping04:19
marjorieim useing horizsync 30-60 vert refresh 4--7004:19
johnnybe1akthats about it04:19
lonewolffsynd-: goto their irc channel #damnsmalllinux04:19
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synd-lonewolff: i did04:20
LinuxJonesmarjorie, your running Hoary ?04:20
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marjorieno warty =/04:20
johnnybe1akis clear looks default in hoary04:20
lonewolffsynd-: it it very unlikely you will get much help in here, as this is the ubuntu channel, try ##linux04:20
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marjoriewhen x fails it just sais failed to intitlise core devices...04:21
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synd-lonewolff: i know, im an #ubuntu regular and have seen people get help with other debian-like distros in here04:21
LinuxJonesmarjorie, here's a link for some info fixing Hoary, just change the reference from the xorg.conf file to xf86config-4 and it should be ok >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:21
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dabaSlontoxicfume it can also be that one of the repos is down, at the time.04:21
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toxicfumedabaSlon: but it always happens with me :/04:21
marjorieLinuxjones : im useing warty dont have xorg04:21
toxicfumewhile at the same time , it doesnt happen to others04:21
lonewolffsynd: the thing is, DSL is about as un debian like as a debian based distro can be04:22
dabaSlontoxicfume its ok...:) tell me which repo this happens with...04:22
LinuxJonesmarjorie, yeah but the process is almost exactly the same04:22
dabaSlonI mean, you do sudo apt-get update, and then it starts listing the repos, and which one fails?04:22
syndlonewolff: hmm04:22
johnnybe1akcan anyone recommend a pci wifi card04:22
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toxicfumedabaSlon: i dont know which one fauils..but the last linwe shows thwe error i typed out to you04:23
capiI can access the Linux Box from My Windows Box, but how do I reverse the process using only the command line?04:23
marjorieok, thank you, will try.04:23
syndjohnnybe1ak, get one that has a ubuntus supported chipset04:23
LinuxJonesjohnnybe1ak, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:23
dabaSlonok, then, please hold, I am reading this site: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary04:23
toxicfume(sorry for the typoes..not in a comfortable position with both desktop and the laptop on a small table :P)04:24
toxicfumedabaSlon: okay, thanks :)04:24
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novaflarethat was damn simple04:25
raDeonDAMN SIMPLE04:25
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novaflaredont know that it did much to speed things up yet04:25
marjorieLinuxjones : im useing warty dont have xorg04:25
novaflarebut it booted properly heh04:25
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Guest22367www.ubuntu.com04:26
raDeonwhen will my cd shipment get here04:26
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LinuxJonesmarjorie, yes I know that's why I mentioned changing the references in the article from xorg.conf to XF86Config-404:27
cainedoes anybody here use yahoo msg04:27
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ogi_yuck04:27
Hajuuuhm04:27
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caineor if anybody here knows how to install gtkhtml-0.804:28
syndcaine, is it not in the apt-get?04:28
caineits not yahoo that im really having the problem with04:28
caineim following the directions to install gtkhtml-0.804:28
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cainebut they dont make sense to me04:28
cainewhat does 'cd' mean04:29
danko123cd means change directory04:29
Daylighthaterchange directory04:29
ogi_change directory04:29
johnnybe1akchange directory hehe04:29
caine1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type04:29
redboaror compact disc04:29
redboarLOL04:29
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danko123caine, try sudo apt-get install gtkhtml-0.804:29
rekawell that was unpleasant.  i asked my question again in #debian (dpkg related) and was basically told to bugger off b/c it was ubuntu-related and therefore off-topic04:30
r0dDaylighthater, uname -a04:30
caineok lemme try that04:30
Daylighthaterredboar thats CD04:30
redboaroh Jesus04:30
johnnybe1akreka: #debian is notoriously bad04:30
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Daylighthaterr0d uname -r works fine to04:30
danko123toxicfume: ok, remove one by one repository, and sudo apt-get update to see if taht fixes it.04:30
r0dDaylighthater,  just install the 2.6 kernel source04:30
Daylighthaterit's just the nuber then04:30
rekajohnnybe1ak: yes, i had heard the rumours ... i managed to call him an oaf before i left though :)04:30
redboarLinux will never overtake Windoze04:30
caineE: Couldn't find package gtkhtml-0.804:30
cainei figured that was gonna happen04:31
Daylighthaterr0d, can i apt-get??04:31
r0dyea04:31
redboarno Micro$oft user will put up with being treated like crap for not knowing anything about computers!  LOL04:31
toxicfumedanko123: hey, i just restarted ubuntu and try apt-get update..and now i get no erroes at all ..it went fine it seems :S04:31
cainehow do you change the directory04:31
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danko123great, good work.04:31
r0dDaylighthater, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1104:31
Echelon-HHey there, I've asked before if I can use my ntfs partition04:31
Daylighthaterr0d, whats it called this source :s04:31
danko123ok, then sudo apt-get install bitchx again04:31
Daylighthater:d04:31
redboaror what lettes are lower or upper case04:31
tiglionabbitcaine: type cd and the name of the directory04:31
toxicfumedanko123: i didn't know anything at all lol04:31
toxicfumedanko123: okay04:32
redboar*letters04:32
caineok04:32
Echelon-Hbut Now i see there is no deb for captive-ntfs.04:32
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Echelon-Hanyone knows another solution?04:32
Daylighthaterr0d, is that unstable??04:32
toxicfumedanko123: its done i think04:32
tiglionabbitechelon: you can only read ntfs, and have very limited writing ability04:32
tiglionabbitthe project is pretty dead04:32
Daylighthaterjust need to adjust my sources of apt then04:32
danko123Echelon-H: you mean just mount the ntfs partition? ok, well, you can, yes, but you cant write to it.04:32
r0dDaylighthater, no04:32
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danko123toxicfume: run bitchx in the terminal04:33
Echelon-Hdanko123, that's fine, how can I do that?04:33
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r0dDaylighthater,  they splashimage where installing maybe04:33
ogi_Who want's to tell me about The French Revolution? :P04:33
r0dDaylighthater,  no guts no glory:)04:33
egg|overhaul^-^ hi04:33
johnnybe1aklol04:33
danko123Echelon-H: ubuntuguide.org has that shown. or if someone else feels like walking you through it, Im sick...04:33
caineok is it like this04:33
cainecd/home/caine/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.004:33
cainecd-/home/caine/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.004:33
egg|overhaulhistory lession?04:33
cainecd /home/caine/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.004:33
Echelon-Hdanko123, k, i'll look over there, thanks04:33
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cainebecause none of these are working04:33
danko123caine: ...04:34
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ogi_egg|overhaul, yeppers04:34
raDeoncocaine04:34
danko123caine, what are you trying to do, compile gaim??04:34
caineno iv got gaim04:34
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cainebut it doesnt support webcam04:34
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egg|overhaulogi_<  yoper04:34
caineso im installing yahoo msg for linux04:35
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danko123caine: your webcam works?04:35
cocainecaine, im like your co-pilot04:35
marjorieLinuxjones: I have consolted that site, nothing new...04:35
marjorieIt almost as if something else is messing up display, beacuse i see the picture perfrect for a few seconds04:36
Echelon-Hcan I find anywhere the Arial font for linux (and if possible, also in hebrew)?04:36
rixthIs there anyway to apply an equalizer to ALL audio out of your computer?04:36
marjoriealsa-mixer should do it04:36
cainelol04:36
caineyeah well copolite start piloting lol04:36
egg|overhaulcaine-_- lol04:36
cainecause im lost as hell04:36
danko123cocaine: what was up with you changing your nick every minute last night??04:36
danko123:)04:36
cocainetrying to dodge bans04:37
egg|overhauldanko123-_- :)04:37
cocaine;)04:37
rixthmarjorie, I'll take a look. I really likr RhythmBox, but no equlizer. Is therer suhc things as plugins for RB?04:37
cainethis is the directory i have to go to04:37
caine/home/caine/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.804:37
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delire_caine: try 'cd /home/caine/Desktop/My\ Documents/gaim-1.3.0'04:37
marjorierixth: Im not sure, alsa plus gstre04:37
lonewolffcd "/home/cain/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8"04:37
cainew/o the quotes right04:37
Echelon-Hcool i got the ntfs working :D04:37
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marjoriesry... i use alsa amarok and gstreamer04:38
ogi_Echelon-H, in what direction04:38
Echelon-Hogi_, read04:38
delire_caine: you need to 'escape' that space in the folder. on UNIX systems such clearspace in names is ill advised.04:38
caineok that works now04:38
cainefinally04:38
delire_ s/folder/"folder name"04:38
marjorieIs it possible that DRI could be causeing this moniutor some problems?04:39
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delire_caine: just rename that folder name ok? My-Documents would be fine04:39
caine1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type04:39
caine     `./configure' to configure the package for your system.  If you're04:39
caine     using `csh' on an old version of System V, you might need to type04:39
caine     `sh ./configure' instead to prevent `csh' from trying to execute04:39
caine     `configure' itself.04:39
Fator_Deemarjorie: what is your problem?04:39
Echelon-HIf I want only to share files on the LAN when one comp is windows and the other is ubuntu, do I need samba or I need something else?04:39
caineanybody understand that shit lol04:39
capiHow do I determine, know what the username/password combo is on my windows box for samba? Is it the same as the user accounts?04:39
rixthEchelon-H, only samba.04:39
delire_caine: to compile it do this: './configure && make && make install'04:39
danko123hey, you guys with atis... or whatever graphics cards... sudosed-i-e's/"ati"/"fglrx"/'/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 what is teh hoary alternative,04:40
lonewolffcain: once your in the directory type ./configure and press enter04:40
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marjorieIve changed to a very old monitor, when gdm starts i see the nvidia banner perfect for a few secs but then disapepas and x dies04:40
rixthcapi, Did you run smbpasswd -a *user*?04:40
delire_caine: you're compiling software, don't expect it to be comprehendable, or easy at first!04:40
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caineit says this right now in terminal04:40
lonewolffcapi: yes, if you are connecting to the windows box from linux then it will be the user accounts on the windows box04:40
cainecaine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.0$04:40
marjorieand i DONT get the no screen message!04:40
capirixth, ok04:40
marjorie:)04:40
lonewolffcapi: if its the other way round then you add users with smbpasswd04:41
danko123sudodpkg-reconfigurexserver-x or this, what is the rest of the command??04:41
reka*sigh*  i think i've narrowed it down: i think my dpkg is stuffed: justin@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -S gcc04:41
rekaPassword:04:41
rekadpkg-query: unable to open files list file for package `memtest86+': Input/output error04:41
lonewolffdank123: xserver-xorg i would assume04:41
uc50_ic4morefolks, i have spent about 2 days now with my first install of Ubuntu and love it - so much so that I would like to convert some friends, family and clients... However, I know a few people who are very, very fond of Microsoft's Picture Manager utility that comes w/ Office 2003... Does anyone know of a GUI program for *NIX that kinda sorta does what Picture Manager does?04:41
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Fator_Deeuc50_ic4more: what it does :-o04:42
Echelon-Hif I installed something from a .run file, how can I delete it?04:42
ogi_danko123,  xorg.conf04:42
danko123lonewolff: command not found...04:42
delire_reka: when did this problem begin?04:42
delire_Echelon-H: rm -f <file.run>04:42
lonewolffuc50_ic4more: what does it do?04:42
caineok so im stuck at caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.0$04:42
Fator_Deeuc50_ic4more: I'm not sure what it does exactly, but you could try gqview, gthumb, they are image viewing programs04:42
cainedo i put configure right after that?04:42
delire_Echelon-H: or do you mean the installed program04:42
Echelon-Hthe installed prog04:43
danko123thanks, Ill tryu that.04:43
delire_uc50_ic4more: gthumb is very ood04:43
rekadelire_: i can't pinpoint it.  i think it was after i upgraded a few packages in synaptic.  now i can't compile programs, because i get an ld error.04:43
Fator_Deeuc50_ic4more: or just search for image viewers on synaptic/apt-get04:43
lonewolffcain: when you are in that directory just type ./configure and hit enter04:43
delire_s/ood/good04:43
uc50_ic4moreSorry - I was assuming that a lot of folks here have some type of dual-boot arrangement - Picture Manager is like a GUI batch image processor - *really* simple re-sizing, auto color correction, etc.04:43
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rekauc50_ic4more: the gimp.  pre-installed with ubuntu04:43
delire_reka: try 'sudo ldconfig'04:43
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caineok thnx now its configuring04:43
danko123./configure, maybe04:43
caineand its done04:43
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uc50_ic4moreFator-Dee - there are several image viewers listed - can you recommend one that perform some cursory adjustments to color/ size, etc.?04:43
rekadelire: that doesn't explain why dpkg doesn't work04:43
rekabut i'll try it04:44
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Fator_Deeuc50_ic4more: I'll check on them04:44
delirereka: no but if you can't compile programs you ld may have no idea where the *.so's it needs to link against are.04:44
caine2. Type `make' to compile the package.04:44
capiwhat port does samba use with windows?04:44
cainebut i typed in and got this04:44
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delirereka: very odd regardless04:44
danko123noo...04:44
danko123:)04:44
mz2uc50_ic4more, if you want to do color adjustments and such, f-spot is nice and easy, and looks flashy, and does that easily for a batch of images04:44
cainecaine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.0$ make make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.04:44
jdizzleanyone know about xorg ati drivers or have any tips..... i just installed the drivers on ubuntu and dlxcfg still gives me mesa drivers04:45
danko123caine, do a ls there.04:45
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cainels?04:45
cocainecocaine get it nyeahaha04:45
delirecaine: did you ./configure04:45
danko123then, go into the right folder.04:45
caineyeah i did04:45
caineand it finished04:45
delirecaine: then look for a src/ directory04:45
naliothhowdy y'all, seems my nick arrived b4 i did04:45
syndgdesklets or gkrellm.. which should i get?04:45
delirecaine: cd in there and type make. why are you compiling gaim btw???04:45
rekadelire: done.  still no go.  for reference: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291665 (the original problem), http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291674 (attempting to upgrade binutils)04:46
naliothsynd: they are two differnt things04:46
Fator_Deeuc50_ic4more: gthumb has some editing abilities, you should try that f-spot out04:46
caineim not compiling gaim04:46
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cainethis isnt gaim04:46
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jiyuu0backports down?04:46
cainei already have gaim installed04:46
syndnalioth: i thought they were similar in what they do?04:46
danko123jiyuu0: some mirrors work.04:46
naliothsynd: in my experience, gkrellm (or superkaramba<for KDE>)04:46
uc50_ic4moregthumb it is - i'll give it a shot - thank you!04:46
jiyuu0danko123, thanks04:46
rekajdizzle: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto04:46
cainebut it doesnt support webcam so im installing yahoo msg but in order to install that i have to have gtkhtml-0.804:46
alejandro_hi .... there is debian package for installing windows media codecs for totem media player ???04:46
naliothsynd the possibilitys for both are limited by your scripting ability04:47
rekaalejandro_: w32codecs04:47
cainebecause its the client that runs it04:47
syndnalioth: im not planning on scripting at all04:47
nihaoUpgrade failed: K7 kernel is not compliant with Nvidia-glx?04:47
rixthalejandro_, no, you have to goto mplayer.hu and install the essential codecs pack.04:47
naliothsynd: i unfortunately cannot get gdesklets to work on my machine, but gkrellm and superkaramba both work fine04:47
rixthreka, w32codes is not longer a proper packed.04:47
delirecaine: alright then04:47
syndnalioth: alright, sounds good04:47
rekarixth: really?! when did this happen?04:47
danko123Does anyone know how to go through a sudodpkg-reconfigurexserver-xorg ?04:48
caineand im installing that right now04:48
jdizzlecan someone pm me to help with the ati driver setup, i went to force overwrite some files and it gives an error04:48
jdizzlesudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite fglrx-6-8-0_8.12.10-2_i386.deb04:48
danko123a walkthrough, otr which options to use?04:48
syndnalioth: are there any alternatives to gkrellm?04:48
alejandro_all roght thx ...04:48
naliothsynd: there is a mighty lot of users working on things to add to superkaramba04:48
rekadanko123: i wouldn't do that if i were you.  it's known to stuff up your xorg.conf file.  make sure to back it up before attempting.04:48
delirejdizzle: have you created a *.deb file? if so dpkg -i --force-overwrite fglrx....deb04:48
syndnalioth: i see. but i dont use KDE04:48
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rixthalejandro_, it's also advisable to get totem-xine (The default is the gstreamer version)04:48
naliothsynd: superkaramba is closer kinned to gdesktlets than it is gkrellm04:48
rixthreka, not sure, E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate04:48
Shorty`hey guys04:48
naliothsynd: you don't have to use kde04:49
dimeodoes the floppy work for everyone after ubuntu is installed?04:49
Shorty`are there any applications that work like RDP in the sence that I can go to a windows machine, and pull up my Desktop?04:49
dimeoI have to type " sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy004:49
dimeo"04:49
syndnalioth: is it KDE-ish?04:49
delirejdizzle: and what happens?04:49
cainedelire: i just sent you the instructions im following04:49
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dimeoto get it to mount.. .anyone know how to fix this?04:49
naliothdimeo: don't know, the manufacturer left a floppy drive off my Mac04:49
rekarixth: hmm, it's still on ubuntuguide.  i admit i haven't installed it since about a month ago though.04:49
danko123reka, thanks, anyone else?04:49
delirecaine: yes they are generic compilation instructions.04:49
naliothsynd yes, superkaramba uses kdelibs and such04:49
rekalol04:49
naliothsynd: superkaramba is apt-gettable (with only the kde junk it needs)04:50
caineyeah well i dont understand them lol04:50
cainei understand some of it04:50
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ompauldimeo, if you 'cat /etc/fstab' do you see a reference to floppy in there?04:50
cainebut i do what it says w/o knowledge of specifics that i need to know04:50
alejandro_what is totem-xine , another media player ??04:50
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cainelike the whole cd thing and how to do it04:50
naliothdimeo: no more PM, please04:50
Shorty`I'll take that as a no ;P04:50
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rekaalejandro_: no.  it uses the xine backend rather than the default gstreamer that comes with ubuntu.04:51
danko123nalioth: do you have to run sudodpkg-reconfigurexserver-xorg??04:51
syndnalioth: this old laptop im messing with only has a p3 600mhz, 128mb RAM. gnome and KDE barely get by on it.. so i use xfce. will the kde libs bog it down?04:51
danko123nalioth: heh, funny way of asking...04:51
alejandro_all right ...im downloading the debian package of it .... after that i have to do something more ??04:52
jdizzlethis is what i get delire -->  Warning: could not find /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/.libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3.c md for /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC304:52
danko123nalioth: can you guide me through it is what I mean.04:52
delirecaine: normally './configure && make && make install' is sufficient. sometimes with a './bootstrap' at the outset, sometimes editing a Makefile to reflect the paths on your system.04:52
jdizzlewhen i do make.sh to that file04:52
Echelon-Hif I am doing a read only to my NTFS can I damage anything?04:52
naliothsynd: that is a good question. you'd only be running ONE app04:52
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hannes_PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY <- why, I've had it working just great for a few weeks04:52
naliothdanko123: i don't have any experience with that command sequence04:52
ShuddertrixEchelon-H: You cannot damage it with it mounted as read-only.04:53
jdizzlethats the only error message and everything else is fine, but i think thats why its not installing04:53
syndEchelon-H: nope04:53
danko123hannes_: cause..04:53
Fator_Deehannes_: and it could be totally whacked when you update it nect time04:53
hannes_exept that sope packages are unable to install04:53
delirejdizzle: odd '.libfglrx_..'? what's with the '.'04:53
Fator_Dee*next04:53
hannes_*some04:53
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Echelon-Hand if I do read/write?04:53
syndEchelon-H: unless you dropped the NTFS HDD off a cliff. that may damage it a bit04:53
naliothdanko123: if its anything similar to Xfree86 configurator, then it should be purty simple04:53
Shuddertrixhannes_: it's something to do with the transition to gcc 404:53
jacquesmerdefuck, my favourite cd skips in a couple of places, and its no longer in print. is there anything i can do?04:53
alejandro_talking about breezy ..... how will be breezy anyway ???04:53
Fator_Deehannes_: you shouldn't use it because it is not stable enough04:53
delirejdizzle: i have a /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC304:53
Echelon-Hsynd, hehe, Im using the same HDD so it would also damage the Ext3 one04:54
jdizzlehmm still dont know why i dont04:54
hannes_yes, gcc4 and new dbus break it a bit04:54
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naliothhannes_: and with the next upgrade, you may be broken04:54
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Echelon-Hanyways, if I'm using read/write, can it damage anything?04:54
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danko123Echelon-H: yeah, its not safe to write to ntfs from linux, at this time.04:54
ompaulhannes_, people usually go for the latest thing, however in an continuing evolving system (ubuntu linux) the use of bleeding edge tools without good reason can leave emotional scars when the system seems to be beyond recovery04:54
rekajacquesmerde: off-topic, is it scratched?04:54
Bizzehhey, i wanna install ubuntu to its own partition on my hdd, without messing up my main partition and mbr04:54
marjorie-tWhat might my display problem be if i see the display at perfect res etc and then x disapears after 2 secs or so...04:54
delirejdizzle: you shouldn't need that source file.04:55
ShuddertrixEchelon-H: If you write something, there's a high chance of it corrupting the ntfs partition.04:55
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hannes_ompaul: just reinstall it than04:55
ompaulhannes_, so therefore for the average user using the bleeding edge before it becomes a release candiate is not a good idea04:55
cainehow do i run 'make install'04:55
naliothEchelon-H: writing to NTFS could destroy the NTFS "bubble", causing total data loss to that partition04:55
danko123just as you said, caine.04:55
jdizzlefunny thing is i also have it in the dir04:55
rekaBizzeh: what's on the other partition? windows?04:55
naliothEchelon-H: reading from NTFS is a given today, but not writing04:55
delirejdizzle: have you 'cd build_mod/ && sh make.sh && cd .. && sh make_install' ?04:55
ompaulhannes_, one may not have that luxary04:55
Bizzehand i wanna use a floppy to have grub on to boot ubuntu04:55
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Bizzehreka: xp04:55
caineif configure is like this './configure'04:56
hannes_ompaul: an why, may I ask?04:56
cainewell i did this04:56
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marjorie-tis there a program to guess modeline for your monitor?04:56
ompaulhannes_, it may be a production machine04:56
cainecaine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ ./make\install04:56
dimeoompaul here's what's listed in fstab   "/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       004:56
dimeo"04:56
delirejdizzle: you have to run the make script in build_mod first.04:56
caineand got this04:56
jacquesmerdereka, not to my eye04:56
danko123 make install04:56
cainebash: ./makeinstall: No such file or directory04:56
danko123jsut like that.04:56
cainecaine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$04:56
hannes_ompaul: well, my machine iisn't04:56
delirecaine: make install04:56
jdizzlei have that file04:56
Bizzehreka: it posible?04:56
cainecaine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ ./make install04:56
cainebash: ./make: No such file or directory04:56
Fator_Deehannes_: or there could be some data that's somehow crucial, possibilities are endless04:56
jdizzlesomehow04:56
jacquesmerdereka, actually, its an ep. would that music be on the inner or outer part?04:56
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cainecaine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ make install04:56
cainemake: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.04:56
delirejdizzle: and you can 'sh make.sh'?04:57
ompaulhannes_, so you may do what you choose to do, however less experianced users and those who seek realiabity may stay well back from the edge04:57
rekajacquesmerde: not sure, but does your drive make uneven sounds (like it's starting and stopping)?04:57
hannes_Fator_Dee: well, I think that it wouldn't break my /home partition04:57
delirejdizzle: in fglrx/build_mod/04:57
hannes_or the backup on my fileserver04:57
karimwhat is the recommanded dhcp server ?04:57
marjorie-tcaine: run configure first04:57
syndAmaranth: you alive?04:57
danko123dhcpd:-p04:57
jdizzlewhen i run sh make.sh I get that error04:57
Amaranthsynd: yeah04:57
karimdanko123, dhcp3-server ?04:57
Fator_Deehannes_: but if you really, really wan't to use breezy, then use it04:57
karimwhat is the difference ?04:57
DaylighthaterQuestion how do I install 2.6.11 kernel, currently running 2.6.1004:57
cainei did04:57
rekaBizzeh: i'm not sure.  when i've dualbooted i always installed grub onto the mbr04:57
cainethats finished04:57
jacquesmerdereka, kinda. a bit clicky too04:57
hannes_Fator_Dee: But I'm already running it04:57
Amaranthkarim: you don't want it, the 2.6.11 in hoary isn't really 2.6.1104:57
danko123karim: not sure:)04:57
syndAmaranth: just got a dual 2.0ghz powermac : )04:58
jdizzleill show u my output for the make on private chat04:58
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Fator_Deehannes_: ok then04:58
hannes_and works /nearly) fine04:58
Amaranthsynd: you suck04:58
naliothsynd: who'd ya knock over for that?04:58
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delirejdizzle: which version of fglrx? perhaps delete the entire fglrx directory and install it again with dpkg.04:58
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rekajacquesmerde: try burning a copy.  your cd is probably scratched somewhere. (have you tried cleaning it)?04:58
cainei already ran configure04:58
marjorie-twell then either something failed dureing configure or make then04:58
hannes_Xsessionmanager popups an empty message after I login04:58
caineand it finished04:58
karimAmaranth, 2.6.11 hangs my computer04:58
Amaranthsynd: also, where do you live so i can come steal it?04:58
marjorie-tand make?04:58
hannes_and some packages don't install04:58
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cainei dont think it worked right though04:58
hannes_but otherwise it's just fine04:58
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cainecaine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ ./configure04:58
cainecreating cache ./config.cache04:58
cainechecking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c04:58
cainechecking whether build environment is sane... yes04:58
cainechecking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes04:58
cainechecking for working aclocal... missing04:58
syndAmaranth, nalioth: i took it from the storage room at work.. : )04:58
cainechecking for working autoconf... missing04:58
cainechecking for working automake... missing04:58
cainechecking for working autoheader... missing04:59
danko123yay04:59
cainechecking for working makeinfo... missing04:59
ompauldimeo, 'sudo mount /media/floppy0'  however it may not have a format that works automagically have a look at command like mdir (from the mtools series) if it has a dos format on it04:59
Amaranthkarim: yeah, it isn't really 2.6.11, it's from an unstable snapshot of the kernel sometime after 2.6.1004:59
marjorie-t !!04:59
cainechecking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no04:59
naliothAmaranth: i'll help ya, if ya make me an account on it04:59
ubotuI am not your damn csh prompt!04:59
danko123wooho04:59
cainechecking for gcc... no04:59
jdizzleim pretty new to linux so i have no idea what directory to delete04:59
cainechecking for cc... no04:59
caineconfigure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH04:59
Amaranthkarim: so it's buggy as hell04:59
Fator_Deefl00d04:59
marjorie-tdude dont spam04:59
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Amaranthcaine: Don't do that again please.04:59
syndcaine: use #flood04:59
ompaulcaine Stop please04:59
Shuddertrixcaine: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:59
Amaranthcaine: sudo apt-get install built-essential04:59
danko123caine: you can use http://pastebin.com for readability as well.04:59
Amarantherr, what he said04:59
jacquesmerdereka, yeah, tried cleaning it, what's the proper way to do that?04:59
Shuddertrixcaine: And please stop flooding, that is what pastebin and #flood are for04:59
Amaranthdanko123: pastebin isn't what i'd call readable04:59
naliothsynd: so how often is the storage room door open?04:59
Amaranthdanko123: http://rafb.net/paste/04:59
danko123Amaranth: so ??04:59
jacquesmerdewhy does an ubuntu install default to an ext3 filesystem? just curious...05:00
danko123thanks, tho, I like pastebin, it is fine.05:00
cainedidnt know about pastebin and #flood05:00
marjorie-tIs there anything else that would stop monitor working apart from res depth and refresh?05:00
jdizzlecaine: im usin fglrx-6-8-005:00
danko123now you do:)05:00
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Bizzehreka: i cant do that tho can i05:00
danko123neither did I:)05:00
syndnalioth: well, since i work in the IS and Network Services dept, i have a key to the storage room05:00
Bizzehcos i already have windows installed05:00
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rekaDaylighthater: install linux-386 or linux-686 (depends on your pref.) reboot and you should have a new entry for it in your bootloader05:00
Bizzehand windows boot loader is in mbr05:00
cainejdizzle and what is that supposed to mean to me05:00
jdizzlecaine: it came with new ubunu05:00
HacheTesRhello05:00
cainewhat is it05:00
capiWhat is the syntax to mount a samba partion with ubuntu, I was trying smbmount username=UN password=SAMBA ip=192.168.1.100 and it tells me it can't resolve the mount point?05:00
Amaranthsynd: did you just tell me that to gloat or did you need help running smeg on ppc hoary? :)05:00
jdizzlecaine: whoops hehe05:01
syndnalioth: just to gloat : )05:01
syndAmaranth: *05:01
jdizzledelire: im usin fglrx-6-8-005:01
rekajacquesmerde: :) i always just wiped it with a soft cloth or the back of my hand.05:01
DaylighthaterI've already installed linux-68605:01
marjorie-tcapi, have u tried a smb:// in nautilyus?05:01
dimeoReading on the forums, it seems other people are also finding that your standard formatted floppy can't be mounted, when Ubuntu is first installed.  I hope this is changed in upcoming versions.05:01
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naliothsynd: too much gloat will turn your face pruny05:01
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caineso what is ' sudo apt-get install build-essential' supposed to do05:01
syndnot at 18 years old!05:01
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naliothcaine, it gives you all your development goodness05:02
Shuddertrixcaine: install the required compilers and tools to allow you to build.05:02
syndAmaranth: im thinking about putting as many PPC OS'es i can on it05:02
caineok its done05:02
Fator_Deecaine: it's going to install packages that are essential to build your own applications from source05:02
pirroHhi, is there a way to use standard cups web interface in ubuntu??05:02
Shuddertrixcaine: you can use synaptic to read package's descriptions. start doing that.05:02
naliothsynd: stick with OSX05:02
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delirejdizzle: so that's for xorg..05:02
HacheTesRis ther some french people here please ?05:02
capimarjorie-t, is nautilyus a web browser, I'm running only the command line interface here.05:02
delirenalioth: ewww05:02
jdizzledelire: yah05:02
caineshudder yahoo msg isnt in there i already checked05:02
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Bizzehreka: so is it hard to do with windows already in the boot sector05:02
syndnalioth: i agree, but i have 3 mac minis, 2 imac g5's and an iBook g4 that all run OSX ;p05:02
naliothHacheTesR: is anyone is #ubuntu-fr?05:02
AmaranthHacheTesR: #ubuntu-fr might be better05:02
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caineand neither is this gtkhtml-0.8 prog05:02
jdizzledelire: but i have no idea why id get that error...... the file is there05:02
marjorie-tah, sry i was assumeing u had x runing05:02
HacheTesRthx Amaranth05:02
WeirdAlHey guys... what's the Linux equivalent of alt-codes?05:03
Amaranthcaine: ubuntu has gtkhtml....05:03
naliothsynd: holy *$&_@)$ talk about gloat05:03
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synddelire: OS X owns you05:03
Shuddertrixcaine: why not just the 1.0.2 version of gtkhtml?05:03
rekaBizzeh: no.  it's actually quite easy.05:03
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delirejdizzle: and you are sh make.sh from inside the build_mod directory05:03
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=== Amaranth likes apple hardware
deliresynd: hah! not on my g4 tower it doesn't ;)05:03
Amaranthi hate the doc05:03
BoD_SWATGFTP doesn't use SSL (my server VSFTPD uses that). I try to compile using "--enable-ssl" but it doesn't work. Help?05:03
cainethis is why05:03
caine"This client uses an un-GNOMEified version of GtkHTML 0.8, which is under the LGPL. Download the source."05:03
Amarantherr, dock05:03
jdizzledelire: yah wanna see my whole output for that05:03
marjorie-tGuys is there anything else i shouyld look at to get my screenworking apart from res depth and refresh05:03
=== lonewolff has a g4 cube (running debian)
delirejdizzle: put it in the pastebin05:04
Bizzehreka: can you tell me the important bits?05:04
delirelonewolff: that's the spirit ;)05:04
cainepeople im new and havnt the slightest damn clue what i am doing05:04
synddelire: running PPC ubuntu on it?05:04
caineim just following instructions as i go05:04
syndlonewolff: oooo05:04
deliresynd: debian. i tried OSX and couldn't stand it05:04
caineand most of them dont make any damn sense05:04
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jdizzledelire: pastebin?05:04
syndlonewolff: g4 cubes are pretty : )05:04
naliothBoD_SWAT: the gftp that came from the repos uses SSL by default. did you compile yours from scratch?05:04
synddelire: boo05:04
marjorie-tCaine perhaps ready up on gcc compileing etc05:04
lonewolffsynd: yeah, pity apple stopped making them, pita to upgrade tho05:04
BoD_SWATfirst I used the one from the repos. That didn't work, so I tried to compile it from scratch05:04
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=== Amaranth wants an iMac G5 running Ubuntu
BoD_SWATnalioth, first I used the one from the repos. That didn't work, so I tried to compile it from scratch05:05
Amaranththat would rock05:05
dimeowhat type of mountpoint should my usb keychain be set to?  It mounts and then disappears.05:05
delireAmaranth: would be nice.05:05
Amaranthwith MOL for access to iApps05:05
jdizzledelire: whats pastebin05:05
syndi ran ubuntu on one of my imacs for a while05:05
rekaBizzeh: how many partitions do you currently have? just the one with windows on it?05:05
Bizzehyes05:05
naliothBoD_SWAT: hmm, i run PPC, you'd think the x86 (you are on x86, right) tree would be the same or more advanced05:05
Amaranthjdizzle: http://rafb.net/paste/05:05
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Bizzehi know to make one about 30gb big at the end05:05
syndbut it doesnt support the damn airport card so i nixed it :/05:05
=== delire notes Taiwanese companines Asustek and Quanta computing make the applie iBooks, iPods, powerbooks and Cubes.
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danko123whats a cube?05:06
Amaranthsynd: blame broadcom05:06
caine iv already read through that stuff and it didnt make sense to me either05:06
delirejdizzle: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/05:06
naliothsynd: thats why ubuntu isnt on my new 12" iBook (no APX support)05:06
syndAmaranth: i know :/05:06
monhi, via nautilus i can access a smb drive, is there a -easy- way to "cd" into it via console?05:06
marjorie-tPerhaps the nvidia modeule doesnt like this crappy screen??05:06
syndnalioth: me too05:06
Amaranthdelire: they don't make g4 cubes anymore05:06
lonewolffmon: mount the samba share05:06
naliothdanko123: r u serious?05:06
delireAmaranth: oh..05:06
Amaranthdelire: those things were awesome, but they were really meant for OS X05:06
BoD_SWATnalioth, I think I have the 'error'... please hold :P05:07
monlonewolff: mount -t smbfs you mean?05:07
lonewolffyes05:07
marjorie-tCaine, if it didnt make sence then our replies to you wont be much help!05:07
Amaranthdelire: running them with OS 9 is frustrating05:07
danko123nalioth: yeah, what a mac mini?05:07
naliothdanko123: apple's famous G4 cube?05:07
naliothdanko123: the mac mini is the bastard offspring of the cube05:07
monlonewolff: i hoped there was a gui-way of doing it.. but thanks anyway05:07
cainewhen you guys tell me exactly how to type this stuff then it does help because im learning from that05:07
syndim putting a Mac Mini in my car05:07
danko123never heard of it I never really knew what Mac had b4 i bought this iBook.05:07
naliothsynd: KEWLness05:07
cainei cant learn from reading as easily as i can from doing05:07
delireAmaranth: i think the powerbooks are pretty horribly made however. sort of 'tinny' and the keyboards feel a bit cheap. the towers and cubes are quite appealing however.05:07
lonewolffmon: i wouldnt know sorry, no samab/windows here05:07
rekaBizzeh: rough guide: (1) backup important stuff (2) boot off ubuntu installation CD (3) when you reach the partition stage, select the windows partition and then the 'size' value  (4) - resize to make space for ubuntu (5) select newly freed space, choose automatic partition (6) when it asks if you want to install grub on mbr, choose yes.05:07
spiralhello05:08
syndnalioth: ive found a ton of free hotspots around town here05:08
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spiralhmmm, could anyone point me to a backports repo for hoary ?05:08
marjorie-tHas anyone here run the nvidia kernel moduel on an Old 15" screen?05:08
Echelon-HHow can I remove a game that was installed by a .run file?05:08
Bizzehreka: windows partition is ntfs, that make a diff?05:08
Amaranthbackports break things05:08
spiralbackports.ubuntuforums.org/ doens't seem to work05:08
syndnalioth: i sat in fazolis parking lot and surfed the net :D05:08
rekaBizzeh: i recommend you google around or check the ubuntu sites for a more detailed guide.05:08
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caineconfigure: error: Cannot find GTK: is gtk-config in path?05:08
BoD_SWATnalioth, the problem is that gftp uses SSH, and the FTP server uses SSL05:08
lonewolffthe origonal g4 powerbooks were nice, and titanium, now their magnesium and aluminium which is no fun05:08
agneshey all!05:08
spiralAmaranth: under debian, they don't really often05:08
jdizzledelire: pasted it05:08
agneswhat's the best way to get the newest OOo betas?05:08
Bizzehreka: no, yours is fine, i dont use guides that are more than 10 steps long05:08
delirejdizzle: ok..05:08
rekaBizzeh: no, you can resize it.  but when you have ubuntu installed, you will only have read-access.05:08
Bizzehthats ok05:09
syndlonewolff: the black ones?05:09
Bizzehok05:09
syndlonewolff: or was that the pbook g305:09
Bizzehbbl hopefully05:09
marjorie-tcaine : check with this command : ECHO $PATH05:09
rekaBizzeh: good luck!05:09
Amaranthspiral: under ubuntu, they do05:09
dimeoOk, when I try to unmount the floppy it says it can't because "umount: only root can unmount /dev/fd0 from /media/floppy0"05:09
lonewolffsynd: that was a g3 the origonal g4 pbook looked like they do now, but was titanium and not aluminium05:09
spiralAmaranth: damn it... I miss my ol' debian sid05:09
dimeoany suggestions here?05:09
Bizzehgood job i got a new 160gb hdd yesterday to move all my music and tv shows to05:09
delirejdizzle: type 'uname -r'05:09
Shuddertrixdimeo: read what it says.05:09
syndlonewolff: ah yeah, the TiBOok05:09
Bizzehand its also a good job i did it over last night05:09
syndTiBook05:10
rekadimeo: sudo05:10
Bizzeh4 hrs to move 87gb05:10
Amaranthspiral: you could always ride the breezy trainwreck if you want things to break daily like sid :)05:10
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spiralAmaranth: sid doesn't break daily...05:10
kev0rHow do i play .ogm files, Mplayer wiht all codex, VLC nor totem-xine will play them05:10
lonewolffBizzeh: thats not bad, it took me about 24 to move 120gb over nfs (10mbit wireless netowkr)05:10
Amaranthspiral: i last used it after warty released05:10
spiralI would consider breezy much more like experimental than like sid05:10
Amaranthspiral: after releases sid breaks a lot05:10
lonewolffkev0r: vlc will play ogm files05:10
dimeoOk but for the user logged in they need to unmount the floppy without going root or sudo...05:10
jdizzledelire: 2.6.10-5-38605:10
cainecaine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ ECHO $PATH bash: ECHO: command not found05:10
delirejdizzle: i don't think that is bad news. it's just a warning.05:10
Bizzehlonewolff: this was just from 1 volume to another05:10
kev0rlonewolff: no it wont play these05:11
syndwhen should we update to breezy?05:11
Fator_Deekev0r: that's odd, VLC atleast should play them05:11
syndim afraid to05:11
lonewolffkev0r: then theyre not ogm files :P05:11
Echelon-His there anyway I can run xmms with repeat on?05:11
Amaranthsynd: 2-3 months from now05:11
Bizzehtryed to copy 30gb over a 100mbit network before05:11
Fator_Deekev0r: are you sure the files are ok?05:11
kev0r:)05:11
Bizzehslow as fuck05:11
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Bizzehwoops05:11
delirejdizzle: 'cd .. && sh make_install.sh'05:11
Bizzehexcuse me05:11
dimeoThe system can mount without going root or sudo.. shouldn't it unmount without going root or sudo?05:11
kev0rFator_Dee: like 10 files all failing?05:11
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kev0rFator_Dee: i'll up one :)05:11
Fator_Deekev0r: like, it should play them, but it's not?05:11
Fator_Deekev0r: do yo uhave read permissions for the files?05:11
littlewormi tried to make the mouse extra buttons to work, so i had to cinfig something but now when start ubuntu it says: "i cant start the x server" some more shit and "configure GDM again and restart", what should i do?05:12
rekaEchelon-H: enable repeat :-)05:12
Bizzehreka: how do i set up grub to detect my windows partition os i can still boot that05:12
caineok i have to go05:12
kev0ryes, btw Fator_Dee they are AVI's05:12
kev0r.avi05:12
rekaBizzeh: it will do it automatically.  when you'05:12
jdizzledelire: that worked out fine05:12
kev0rand i have .ogm files05:12
delirejdizzle: then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read 'fglrx' in place of your existing driver and restart X. then run 'glxinfo | grep direct'05:12
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kev0rboth are not playing, but normal DVDrips are playing05:12
reka*you're setting stuff up, refer to ubuntuguide.org05:12
kev0rxvid 'n shit05:12
marjorie-tbugger sry caine : echo $PATH05:12
delirejdizzle: i think you're done. that was just an obtuse warning.05:12
Bizzehogm is a container file, that can hold container files05:12
BoD_SWATThe problem is that gftp uses SSH2, and the FTP server uses SSL. And I NEED SSL ... :'-(   HELP05:12
syndim tired man, i spent the last 24 hrs in jail :x05:12
Bizzehwhich alot of stuff doesnt like05:13
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jdizzledelire: but it did b4 and the driver still didnt show05:13
Bizzehesp mplayer05:13
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rekaBizzeh: it has instructions for mounting NTFS05:13
littlewormi tried to make the mouse extra buttons to work, so i had to cinfig something but now when start ubuntu it says: "i cant start the x server" some more shit and "configure GDM again and restart", what should i do?05:13
BoD_SWATkev0r, xvid works fine here. Just use mplayer with codecs05:13
delirejdizzle: 'modprobe -l | grep fglrx'05:13
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kev0rBoD_SWAT: but the files are still not playing :)05:13
delirejdizzle: that looks for all available drivers, loaded or not.05:13
capiWhat is the samba mount point for a default windows XP setup?05:13
syndfor those of you who have never spent a night in jail, i dont recommend it05:13
kev0ris there a small linux program that checks what codec the file is?05:13
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Fator_Deekev0r: what vlc says about the files when you are trying to view them?05:13
kev0rlemme run05:14
Bizzehkev0r: ogm is a container, you can hold any movie data, and any sound data in there. the problem is when people put data in there in the form of a container... ie, putting ogg in as the sound, instead of raw vorbis05:14
jdizzledelire: what do i do with that05:14
littlewormi tried to make the mouse extra buttons to work, so i had to cinfig something but now when start ubuntu it says: "i cant start the x server" some more shit and "configure GDM again and restart", what should i do?05:14
delirejdizzle: 'modprobe -l' is useful. the '| grep fglrx' part just filters for fglrx05:14
Fator_Deekev0r: and *don't* paste the output here05:14
delirejdizzle: did you get any return on that?05:14
kev0rnah :P05:14
BoD_SWATkev0r, did you use the 'guide' and did you install the codecs etc?05:14
jdizzledelire: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko05:14
rekakev0r: type file <filename>05:14
delirejdizzle: great! now load it with 'modprobe fglrx'05:14
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delirejdizzle: and you're nearly done..05:15
capiright now I'm using //SHARE/LOCAL_MNTPNT and that doesn't work... :\05:15
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delirejdizzle: to see if it did load type 'lsmod | grep fglrx'. lsmod == list modules05:15
naliothkev0r: file <filename>05:15
naliothsynd: paying for your dually?05:16
kev0ryes BoD_SWAT running XviDs 'n DivX almost evry day, even WMV05:16
Bizzehright05:16
Bizzehbbl05:16
Bizzehi hope05:16
jdizzledelire: fglrx                 232444  005:16
kev0rfile Hajime_no_Ippo_-_01_\[Keep-Infusion\] \[50ef1a1e\] .avi05:16
kev0rHajime_no_Ippo_-_01_[Keep-Infusion] [50ef1a1e] .avi: data05:16
apollo2011 I am trying to edit the Samba configuration in KControl and whenever I use Administrator Mode and enter my user password, it just goes back to the blue start page. I was able to edit the configuration before.05:16
BoD_SWATkev0r, maybe the files are corrupt?05:16
kev0r:) that's not helping05:16
BoD_SWATnalioth, The problem is that gftp uses SSH2, and the FTP server uses SSL. And I NEED SSL ... :'-(   HELP05:16
delirejdizzle: more good news. now have you ever edited your xorg.conf before?05:16
kev0rthen bout 20 files are corrupt?05:16
kev0ri'll check the md5hash code :)05:16
Fator_Deekev0r: and check the sfv05:17
jdizzlei had to once05:17
jdizzledelire: ya05:17
jdizzlesudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:17
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delirejdizzle: ok you should look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if you can find the section 'Driver'05:17
kev0rbtw: vlc has no output, just stops playing05:17
naliothBoD_SWAT: and whomever you are leeching from isnt using a sshd also?05:17
ccc_how update apt-get05:18
ccc_??05:18
rekakev0r: what the output should have looked like: /home/justin/videos/abi1.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 704 x 384, 25.00 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)05:18
delirejdizzle: you may have "ati" or "vesa" in there now. whatever is in there currently, change to fglrx.05:18
danko123sudo apt-get update?05:18
naliothccc_: you have it backwards "sudo apt-get update"05:18
kev0rhmm05:18
delirejdizzle: then restart X by logging out and back in (even reboot to be sure).05:18
ccc_ok05:18
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ccc_thx05:18
jdizzledelire: k brb05:18
danko123k05:18
rekakev0r: try renaming05:18
rekathe file05:18
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kev0r$ file DBGT_01_-_A_Grand_Problem_-_\[aX\] .ogm05:19
kev0rDBGT_01_-_A_Grand_Problem_-_[aX] .ogm: data05:19
littlewormi tried to make the mouse extra buttons to work, so i had to config something but now when start ubuntu it says: "i cant start the x server" some more shit and "configure GDM again and restart", what should i do?05:19
BoD_SWATnalioth, for the record. It's my own FTP (so I can access my files from everywhere). And no, only using ssl.05:19
kev0rhaha, fucking with me too...05:19
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naliothBoD_SWAT: then use sshd05:19
danko123delire, could you help us as well, with X...?05:19
danko123doesnt start at this time.05:19
naliothBoD_SWAT: its just as easy, plus more secure05:19
deliredanko123: xorg?05:19
Gus_hello05:19
dimeoI'm beginning to think Xandros or Mepis is a better distro.... the floppy and usb memory sticks actually work right after installing the OS...05:19
danko123delire: we did http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto for hoary, step by step, I think...we did sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserve..... and it is kinda hard, it ahs many options.05:20
BoD_SWATnalioth, but that means you need to 'open up' your sshd login (port). So the encryption could be more secure, but the way you use it, is less secure05:20
danko123rebooted, no X still.05:20
naliothdimeo: whatever works for YOU05:20
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Gus_i have this weird thing happening: when i want to launch Firefox through the shortcut on the panel, it seems to load, then stops, and nothing happens. when i run the command line in term, it launches perfectly... same for thunderbird btw... any idea ?05:20
BoD_SWATnalioth, but you don't know of a way to get it working with ssl?05:20
danko123delire, yes, xorg, I think.05:20
naliothBoD_SWAT: you do use good password habits, eh?05:20
dimeodid no one else here have this problem?05:20
naliothBoD_SWAT: not gftp05:20
rekadanko123: like i said, you should avoid using reconfigure if possible.  the howto only told you to change "ati" to "fglrx" iirc05:21
BoD_SWATnalioth, OK. Thnx. Any substitutes you know of?05:21
_kevincan some one tell me how ic an obtain ices2 version 2.0.1 since that version has alsa support05:21
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_kevini tried apt-get install ices2 but it installs version 2.0.005:21
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dimeoIt's not like my floppy is an unusual piece of hardware that needs Windows specific drivers  !05:21
danko123reka: Ive had ppl recommend that b4, well, I screwed up:905:21
danko123:905:21
danko123funk.05:21
danko123delire, so can you help us?05:21
Gus_anyone ? =/05:22
naliothBoD_SWAT: sorry not for linux, although there are several out there, i only use gftp with my home ssh'd network (i'm behind a router/firewall)05:22
deliredanko123: did you back up your last config?05:22
danko123not even:(05:22
danko123what can he do05:22
danko123?05:22
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rekaGus_: what is the command in the shortcut properties?05:22
danko123I screwed that up a bit...05:22
AlwaysModestis there any way for me to see how much ram is installed in my system, that is, w/o opening it up05:23
BoD_SWATnalioth, http://www.iglooftp.com/linux/features.html05:23
deliredanko123: i don't run xorg. though look in /var/log/X.org.log (ISTR).05:23
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Gus_reka, for firefox it's the standard one, but i added sudo to it (so: "sudo firefox %u" without quotes)05:23
BoD_SWATnalioth, only it's commercial :'(05:23
deliredanko123: what is the error when you try to 'startx' from the console?05:23
rekaGus_: remove sudo. :-)05:23
naliothBoD_SWAT: there are several for linux that are not05:23
naliothBoD_SWAT: try freshmeat.net or sourceforge.net05:23
danko123delire, his lsmod | grep fglrx returns the fglrx       229568  0 thing05:24
Gus_reka, it used to work with sudo =/05:24
BoD_SWATnalioth, thnx 4 all. I'll go on a hunt now ;-)05:24
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Fator_DeeGus_: not adviced to run browsers as root05:24
Gus_reka, i do that because i need to access a FAT32 partition and for some reason, i can't give my "user" the right to write on it05:24
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Gus_Fator_Dee,  i guess so, malicious code and stuff, but see my explanation above =)05:24
rekaGus_: i fail to see how firefox would have anything to do with FAT acces. :-)05:25
Fator_DeeGus_: but you should correct it by other means :-p05:25
lonewolffGUS_: should work if you chown the directory to be owned by the user05:25
lonewolffs/directory/mount point05:25
danko123delire: just a sec.05:25
Gus_reka, i set a profile on a FAT32 partition to use it on both XP and ubuntu, and wen i try to create a profile on it, Firefox tells me it can't05:25
Gus_using sudo, it could05:25
rekaah05:25
Fator_DeeGus_: permission problems then?05:25
Gus_lonewolff, care to explain how please ? thanks =D05:26
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lonewolffGus_: open up a terminal05:26
Gus_Fator_Dee,  i tried to change the permission but it wouldn't work, so i guess i didn't do it properly =)05:26
danko123delire:  first..it skips 3 directories05:26
dimeowhats the /dev/sdb1? anyone?05:26
Fator_DeeGus_: I'd guess so too :-p05:26
Gus_done sir =)05:26
danko123delire: then it says (EE) No devices detected.05:26
danko123dimeo: maybe a USB device.05:26
lonewolffGus_: then run chown youruser /media/whereveritmountsto05:26
lonewolffsorry sudo chown05:27
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Gus_i had corrected =)05:27
rekadanko123: post your xorg.conf file in a pastebin05:27
danko123not possible...05:27
lonewolffGus_: that worked the last time i tried it05:27
danko123reka, cause the guy doesnt have X.05:27
raDeonI WANT PICTURE OF HOT DEBIAN WOMAN05:27
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Gus_lonewolff, chown: changing ownership of `/datashare/': Operation not permitted05:27
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danko123why not just hot woman?05:27
raDeoni don't care05:27
Fator_DeeraDeon: WWW.GOOGLE.COM05:27
raDeoni just figure05:28
Gus_was the same with /datashare without te ending /05:28
capianyone know how to mount samba?05:28
danko123Fator_Dee: :)05:28
dimeoradeon she may be hot but she can't have a social life and use debian05:28
lonewolffGus_: using sudo?05:28
raDeonit's linux so i will try to be on topic05:28
rekaraDeon: join #debian and ask for dpkg05:28
Gus_lonewolff, aye05:28
raDeondimeo, i dont care if she has no social life.05:28
lonewolffand try to do it when the fat32 partion is not mounted and then remount it05:28
Gus_ok05:28
raDeonas long as she uses irc and is hot05:28
Gus_will try05:28
danko123reka: any other ideas?05:28
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AlwaysModestis there anyway to see how much ram is installed on my system?05:28
deliredanko123: ok. and you are trying to use fglrx also?05:28
danko123delire: this is the next thing it says: XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "0:0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. .05:28
dimeoradeon why you gonna give her one? =)05:28
danko123yeah, well, his card is x70005:29
rekadanko123: does he know how to use an editor that doesn't need X?05:29
Shuddertrixdimeo: I beg to differ.05:29
danko123that is the proper one.05:29
deliredanko123: sorry, i have no idea where you are upto or what you're trying to do.05:29
danko123reka: yeah, hes pretty handy..05:29
Gus_lonewolff, cannot, "device is busy" ^05:29
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danko123delire: we are not able to start X, the graphics card is ATI x700, and he is using Hoary.05:29
Gus_oh cool, worked05:29
ubuntuhow do i get the right codecs to play this .avi file?05:29
danko123delire: we have followed http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto and still X is not working.05:30
rekadanko123: i'd like to know what he has as Driver:05:30
danko123is that all?05:30
rekaunder his VG Device section05:30
naliothbrb05:30
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toxicfumehey05:30
danko123hey05:30
raDeondimeo, i'm going to make babies05:30
danko123so, reka, can you try helping toxicfume?05:30
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danko123I have to go lay down again, Im sick.05:30
Fanskapetdanko123, black screen at xorg startup?05:31
toxicfumedanko123: thanks for helping:)05:31
danko123yup.05:31
toxicfumereka: how do i find that out?05:31
Fanskapetahh same for me then05:31
toxicfumeFanskapet: yup05:31
dimeoshuddertrix  I bet it took a few hours to get your debian set up.  I've spent all weekend just to get the basics set up, like a stinkin wifi and floppy05:31
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Fanskapeti gave it up :)05:31
rekatoxicfume: : change the Driver under your VG Device section to "ati" so you can at least boot back into gnome or whatever.05:31
toxicfumereka: how do i do that?05:31
Fanskapetmy first thought was that it was some frequenzy problem, but it wasn't :)05:31
Gus_lonewolff, still the same problem: when i run firefox (without sudo this time), and chose my profile, located in /datashare/somedir/someotherdir/ it tells me the profile's in use05:32
Fanskapetactually i haven't got a clue what's wrong05:32
rekatoxicfume: where are you now? in console?05:32
danko123he is talking about the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file05:32
toxicfumereka: yes05:32
Gus_which is why i used sudo in the first place, for with sudo it didn't tell me such thing05:32
WindowsrulesIf i install Ubuntu, do I risk damaginf my boot order. (I use a Gentoo-installed Grub now)05:32
rekatoxicfume: do you know how to use an editor that doesn't use X?05:32
danko123windows rules........05:32
toxicfumereka: i can use nano05:32
dimeohow do I make it so the floppy can be unmounted without using sudo.05:32
Fanskapetee is a nice little tool05:32
Shuddertrixdimeo: no, i was talking about "debian girls have no social life" comment you made.05:33
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Windowsrulesdanko123: Yes, it does doesn't it. :)05:33
danko123no05:33
rekatoxicfume: OK, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and change the Driver attribute under you're video card Device section back to "ati"05:33
toxicfumereka: okay one sec05:33
robert_how do i find out my root password?05:33
cccccc_: is that your regular nick? what a coinsidence. =)05:33
dimeoshuddertrix yea I know.  Any those .deb girls, still have to spend hours typing root commands to get their distro working.  unless their IT manager does it for them ;)05:33
danko123robert_: by default there is none set.05:34
rekarobert_: thre isn't one, use *your* password.05:34
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deliredanko123: can you 'modprobe -l | grep fglrx'05:34
MartinLike this then?05:34
danko123he did05:34
robert_im trying to install a java plugin, nd i need to type in "su" at the terminal, but its asking me for a password05:34
danko123delire: he did.05:34
Shuddertrixdimeo: my wife tripleboots windows/sid/hoary, and she's teh hawt05:34
dimeoMy wife is gonna be a hot debian girl when I finally get this stinkin think working05:34
deliredanko123: who's 'he'?05:34
danko123delire: its toxicfume.05:34
Shuddertrixand she manages a social life05:34
deliredanko123: ahah05:34
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MartinIf i install Ubuntu, do I risk damaging my boot order. (I use a Gentoo-installed Grub now)05:34
Shuddertrixshe knows as much about linux as I do, which is plenty I suppose..05:34
rekarobert_: type in your user passwrod05:35
danko123sudo modprobe fglrx 10:16:52) danko123: lsmod | grep fglrx actually05:35
robert_doesnt work05:35
dimeoshuddertrix no shit?  kudos man05:35
toxicfumereka: okay, edited05:35
deliredanko123: right. and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf has the driver listed in the Driver section?05:35
rekatoxicfume: try startx05:35
danko123so you guys gonna post those pictures:-p05:35
danko123delire: toxicfume...05:35
Shuddertrixplus, she games and works out with me. i'm probably the luckiest guy in the world ;)05:35
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rekadelire: i told him to change back to "ati" so he can at least post his xorg.conf file into a pastebin05:36
danko123dimeo, Shuddertrix, posting those pictures?05:36
robert_user password doesnt work05:36
danko123haha, for me and raDeon.05:36
Shuddertrixdanko123: I told you yesterday, no pictures!05:36
danko123Shuddertrix: you had?05:36
toxicfumereka: black screen05:36
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Shuddertrixunless you have the knowledege of getting into my /photos or /shared/photos!05:36
toxicfumereka: doesn't seem to work05:36
dimeoshure... just google hot wife pix05:36
deliretoxicfume: and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf has the driver listed next to 'Driver' in the Devices section?05:36
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rekatoxicfume: can you get back to console?05:37
dimeoyou'll find one05:37
ShuddertrixMaybe not you, danko123 , but i did to raDeon05:37
danko123delire: which driver, anyhow?05:37
Bizzehreka: install locks up at "testing network repository"05:37
danko123ah, kk...05:37
delirereka: so he's tried to startx with the fglrx entry in his config?05:37
toxicfumedelire: yes, i just chagned it to "ati" like reka told me to05:37
danko123Im fine, for your wives, tho:)05:37
deliredanko123: fglrx no?05:37
naliothback (as can obviously be seen)05:37
toxicfumereka: okay i'll get back to console now05:37
danko123delire, reka told him to change it to ati.05:37
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deliretoxicfume: you can't start X with fglrx in your Devices section?05:37
danko123ok, synch you 3 somehow, get on the same page.05:37
danko123communicate:)05:38
rekaBizzeh: ouch.  how many times did you try?05:38
rekadanko123: lol05:38
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RebroadHi. Anyone here know how to write a CD if one has zero free disk space please?05:38
toxicfumedelire: yes i can..but i did that before and i get an error(in the blue screen)05:38
agneshey all! Quick Q: I just discovered a "hack" to make it so the openoffice.org2 packages from hoary can be VERY easily replaced with any new beta.. How can I disseminate this? (mv /usr/lib/openoffice2 /usr/lib/openoffice2-old ; ln -s /opt/openoffice.org1.9.105 /usr/lib/openoffice2)05:38
toxicfumedelire: and it shows a log05:38
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Bizzehohh, it just changed to "testing security update repository"05:38
deliretoxicfume: paste the error to a pastebin if you can.05:38
Bizzehtook about 15 mins05:38
robert_y cant i create any folders?05:38
rekadelire: which is why i told him to change back to "ati" so he could at least boot back into gnome05:39
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danko123agnes: post it on the forums, wiki, or something liek that.05:39
delirereka: ok05:39
rekadelire: he doesn't have X! :-)05:39
deliretoxicfume: have you used vim or nano before?05:39
_kevincan some one tell me how ic an obtain ices2 version 2.0.1 since that version has alsa support05:39
_kevini tried apt-get install ices2 but it installs version 2.0.005:39
delirereka: right..05:39
danko123he uses nano05:39
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toxicfumedelire: i'm pretty familiar with nano by now :)05:39
rekadanko123: we're going down the same path again :-)05:39
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agnesdanko123: Where?05:39
robert_why can't I create a folder?05:39
danko123ubuntuforums.org ubuntulinux.org/wiki05:40
raDeonrobert_, because you're a moron.05:40
deliretoxicfume: what are the lines next to EE in you /var/log/X.org.log (guessing the logname, i don't use xorg)05:40
raDeonsorry05:40
robert_lol05:40
danko123robert_: where?05:40
dimeook someone must know how to set it up so everyone can unmount a floppy without using sudo05:40
robert_anywhere05:40
toxicfumedelire: one sec05:40
danko123raDeon: lol...you are funny, amn.05:40
robert_well05:40
robert_in my urs folder05:40
danko123mkdir05:40
robert_usr*05:40
delirerobert_: because you're trying to do it in a directory you don't have write permissions to?05:40
Bizzehis crap downloading when "configuring apt" is doing on??05:40
danko123sudo mkdir will create one anywhere.05:40
robert_is that the padlock?05:40
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delirerobert_: yes05:40
rekaBizzeh: no.05:40
Rebroadrobert_: it's called security05:40
robert_so how do i give myself write permissions in that folder?05:41
Bizzehwhy it take 20 mins to just do that then?05:41
Rebroadrobert_: why would you want them?05:41
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robert_coz i want to install a java plugin05:41
robert_and it says i need to make a directory05:41
rekaBizzeh: what is your system?05:41
danko123aha, yeah, sudo mkdir.05:41
delirerobert_: chown -R YOUR-USERNAME directory/05:41
Rebroadrobert_: Do you need the java plugin for all users, or just for one user?05:41
Bizzeh?05:41
danko123no...dont even do that...05:41
robert_just one i guess05:41
Bizzehwhat you mean reka?05:42
Rebroadrobert_: then install the plugin in the user directory area instead.05:42
rekarobert_: your home folder is ~   /usr is not your "user folder"05:42
robert_oh05:42
rekaBizzeh: system specs?  do you have an old comp.?05:42
GNAMbochs 2.2 OUT!05:42
delirerobert_: chown == change ownership. 'ls -l some-directory' reveals who the owner of that directory is.05:42
rekarobert_: places->home05:42
reka*home folder05:43
naliothGNAM: and bochs 2.2 does what in a new way?05:43
Bizzehasrock board, amd 2200+ t'bred05:43
Rebroadrobert_: you generally don't want to chown system directories. /usr is a system directory05:43
robert_oh ok05:43
Bizzeh768ddr400 ram05:43
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robert_shud i put it in my home directory?05:43
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toxicfumedelire: There's "(EE) Unable to find a framebuffer device", "(EE) RADEON(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or error...etc" <-- it's a text message05:43
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GNAMlook at official site.05:43
Rebroadrobert_: i would if it's just for one user05:43
Shuddertrixnalioth: check the CHANGES file at the bochs' site05:43
delirerobert_: don't touch anything outside of /home/your-username unless you absolutely know what you are doing.05:43
raDeonyes, who called me05:43
robert_ouch05:44
robert_ok05:44
robert_but i still cant install it05:44
rekarobert_: you can do whatever you want :-)  maybe make a "My Downloads" folder or something05:44
naliothShuddertrix: yes i know, i was enquiring as to GNAM's obvious excitement!05:44
deliretoxicfume: 'lsmod -l | grep fb'05:44
robert_i need to type in su05:44
robert_then it asks for a password05:44
robert_i tried all my passwords05:44
Rebroadrobert_: what is this plugin called?05:44
Bizzehit seems to be working now, rebooted and unpacking modules now05:44
Bizzehso05:44
robert_jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i58605:44
Bizzehshould be good05:44
Rebroadrobert_: is you use "sudo" instead of "su" it asks for your user password05:44
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delirerobert_: one of the reasons linux is so secure, you can't manipulate system directories without the appropriate permissions.05:44
Bizzehon gf's laptop till its installed05:44
danko123su wont work, robert.05:44
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danko123you have to enable it, first.05:44
Bizzehgotta love wireless05:45
danko123And I wont tell you how, cause its wrong.05:45
robert_ooh05:45
Shuddertrixnalioth: a new vga option, cirrus. probably the biggest change.05:45
toxicfumedelire: okay.. that returns "Usage: lsmod"05:45
rekaBizzeh: did you work out the resizing stuff OK?05:45
danko123Just use sudo05:45
danko123sudo command05:45
naliothShuddertrix: GNAM trying to make a little conversation so some of these peeps who may be ignorant of bochs could become interested if they knew what it was05:45
robert_kk05:45
RebroadHi. Anyone here know how to write a CD if one has zero free disk space please?05:45
robert_sudo wat?05:45
deliretoxicfume: that was an L 'l' not a one 105:45
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danko123Rebroad: likely no way to do it...05:45
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sijmeni have installed a ubuntu server, and a ubuntu client, the first with 'server' install, the other default. i've also set up a network in which they both reside. now i'd like to add ldap authentication, so that the client authenticates logins against the server. i've already found serveral howto's that describe how to achieve this with pam_ldap, but tho things i cannot find out: first, i needed to import some ldif file, with the entries. this prob05:45
Bizzehreka: yes. the one on the ubuntu cd is billions of times faster than partition magic05:45
toxicfumedelire: yes i did type -l05:46
rekarobert_: the syntax is "sudo <command>" where sudo stands for "super user do"05:46
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robert_oo05:46
deliretoxicfume: sorry my mistake! i was thinking 'modprobe' ;)05:46
toxicfumelol okay05:46
deliretoxicfume: lsmod | grep fb05:46
Bizzehis there any way of enabling su in ubuntu?05:46
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toxicfumedelire: alright05:46
deliretoxicfume: too many things at the same time05:46
robert_got it05:46
RebroadBizzeh: su is enabled05:46
toxicfumedelire: nevermind :)05:46
RebroadBizzeh: It's just that root has not password until you give it one05:47
toxicfumedelire: okay that retunrs a list05:47
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danko123robert_: what are you installing, Java?05:47
Bizzehahh05:47
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robert_yeah05:47
robert_manually05:47
danko123Which walkthru are you following?05:47
beginnerwhere can i put  eth0 static?05:47
danko123is it a jre, or a jdk?05:47
robert_um05:47
robert_jre i believe05:47
Bizzehsort of "we made this so you cant mess it up by default... if you mess it up.. its totaly your own fault"05:47
danko123oik, which walkthru are you following?05:47
robert_the online one05:47
robert_the java one at their site05:47
danko123online wheer?05:47
danko123aha, wrong...05:47
deliretoxicfume: do you see anything like 'radeonfb.ko'?05:47
robert_http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting05:47
g14jre = java runtime environment, jdk = java development kit. Unless you compile java, you want the jre05:47
danko123let me tell you...05:47
danko123:)05:47
Alinuxhow can I condivide internet connection with WMware 5.0 in Ubuntu... there is bridge connecion.05:48
beginner what is command for eth0 static?05:48
robert_yeah i got the jre05:48
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Alinux?05:48
deliretoxicfume: or anything like fb_dev.ko?05:48
toxicfumedelire: nope05:48
toxicfumedelire: not that too, the closest i see it fbcon05:48
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deliretoxicfume: did you dpkg-rconfigure your xserver at any point?05:48
deliretoxicfume: dpkg-reconfigure*, i meant to say05:48
toxicfumedelire: a few times already05:48
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toxicfumeyup05:49
danko123http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java or http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre05:49
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deliretoxicfume: you need to disable framebuffer devices. you have none loaded so X isn't starting.05:49
danko123robert^05:49
Rebroadrobert_: use www.ubuntuguide.org instead05:49
deliretoxicfume: this, i believe is your problem05:49
raDeonhaha robert05:49
beginnerhao i change my ip?05:49
deliretoxicfume: this, i believe is your problem05:49
toxicfumedelire: how do i do that? in dpkg-reconfigure again?05:49
naliothbeginner: iwconfig05:49
robert_ok05:49
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danko123nalioth: ???05:49
danko123for eth0 static?05:50
medkithi all05:50
toxicfumedelire: i dont think s actually, cause i have tried reconfigure with framebuffer off..and still it didnt work05:50
robert_thx05:50
rekasomeone recommended this guide over ubguide's: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php05:50
deliretoxicfume: yes, or edit the file manually.05:50
toxicfume*so05:50
naliothdanko123: i'm jumpin in and out of the chair here05:50
naliothdanko123: sorry i answered an old question05:50
nichCould someone tell me what to do to get a gnome session running if a new user with nothing on its home dir won't even load gnome past the splash screen?05:50
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danko123why are you always apologizing?05:50
beginnernalioth i have that eth0      no wireless extensions.05:50
nich(after an upgrade from warty to hoary)05:50
deliretoxicfume: ahah, well the error above points to x.org expecting a framebuffer device. try05:50
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beginneri can not means?05:50
naliothdanko123: how do YOU change your IP?05:50
danko123:)05:51
danko123what?05:51
toxicfumedelire: okay, do you knwo whcih file to edit? the reconfigure process is long and i dunn wanna go through all that just to chagne framebuffer to "no" :P05:51
beginneri cant browse on port 8005:51
danko123beginner: ping www.google.com05:51
deliretoxicfume: how about 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Frame'05:51
beginneris pinging05:51
raDeonQuestion.05:51
danko123and, firewalls? routers?05:51
raDeonis ubuntu a "newb" distro05:51
we2byhow do I flush my firewall rules?05:51
deliretoxicfume: this is the file to edit. your X config: /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:51
dimeois a floppy format vfat or msdos?05:51
danko123youre a newbie distro...05:51
danko123vfat I think05:51
ShuddertrixraDeon: not exactly, in my opinion05:51
raDeonim not a distro at all05:51
naliothbeginner: changing IPs is a long way from "cant browse on port 80"05:51
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danko123sure you are...05:52
dimeoradeon I wouldn't say so05:52
Rebroadwe2by: pull the chain?05:52
danko123c'mon now...05:52
we2byyep05:52
naliothraDeon: as easy as you want it to be. its debian underneath05:52
we2byc;ear all rules05:52
raDeonwould you say it's good for newbies but the advanced linux user will like it05:52
danko123beginner: router? firewall?05:52
rekadanko123: hehe05:52
toxicfumedelire: that cat command didn't return anything05:52
delireraDeon: kind of. Mepis is possibly moreso.05:52
we2byRebroad, any idea?05:52
ShuddertrixraDeon: hey, i am an advanced linux user, and I like it. ;)05:52
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Rebroadwe2by: depends on which firewall you are using05:52
deliretoxicfume: ok.. well X is looking for one.05:52
raDeoni'm an advanced linux user too05:52
danko123raDeon: so so, its not good for newbies with fancy comptuers.05:52
dimeoradeon it's still a long way off from being suitable for noobs  I've spent all weekend to get it working with the basics and I'm a hacker compared to most computer users I know05:52
novaflarewell radeon i a linux noob and found ubuntu to be damn easy to install05:52
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Bizzehwooo05:52
Bizzehkubuntu boots05:53
Bizzehnow05:53
ToljaHi05:53
Bizzehi just hope windows works05:53
raDeoni think i will like ubuntu05:53
ToljaI'm having problems with the installer05:53
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dimeonovaflare but did your wireless work, floppy work, usbmemory work, mp3's and videos play right after you installed the distro?05:53
toxicfumedelire: okay..so i change "UseFBDev" "true" to "UseFBDev" "false" ?05:53
ToljaWhat to put in the domain name field?05:53
danko123raDeon: Its good for like standard hardware, for weird graphics cards, and sound cards, and wireless, so so...not sure how it compares to otehr linuxex, cause I only use thios one.05:54
novaflarewell im not on wireless05:54
ToljaI'd like to download files from internet05:54
deliredimeo: if you want all that to work try Mepis or Xandros, though both ship alot of non-free software to acheive it.05:54
novaflareand not had a floopy for ever heh05:54
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deliretoxicfume: yes ;)05:54
danko123Tolja: what exactly would you like?05:54
deliretoxicfume: then i think you'll be in business.05:54
danko123a link to the dowbnload of Ubuntu?05:54
rekaBizzeh: good job.  now consult ubuntuguide.org for stuff like auto-mounting your ntfs partition05:54
dimeoXandros was a smooth install. I've heard mepis is goot too. but Xandros didn't have as many files in the apt-get05:54
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robert_i installed java in my home folder, but when i go to a site that needs java, it doesnt recognize that i downloaded it05:54
toxicfumedelire: okay :) and how about the Driver name? should i leave it as "ati" ? ot back to "fglrx" ?05:54
dimeodelire I agree05:54
danko123http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/05:55
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deliretoxicfume: back to fglrx ;)05:55
toxicfumedelire: okay05:55
dimeois a floppy a vfat format?05:55
Rebroadrobert_: did you create links in your plugins folder for your browser?05:55
medkiti have a question about bootloader grub05:55
toxicfumedelire: startx now?05:55
robert_how i do that?05:55
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Rebroadrobert_: what browser are you using?05:55
robert_mozilla05:55
danko123robert_: did you follow ubuntuguide.org?05:55
deliredimeo: my girlfriend and i installed Mepis on 30 dell workstations in 4.5 hours. all worked out-of-the-box. java, video, mounting usb-storage devices et al. network shares also.. impressive.05:55
robert_it doesnt say much05:56
deliretoxicfume: yes05:56
rekatoxicfume: so what was the problem? :-)05:56
Toljadanko123, i'm configuring network in the installer but i don't get it to work :/05:56
robert_sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.505:56
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robert_java -version05:56
rekarobert_: close mozilla. open mozilla. :-)05:56
naliothdanko123: i'm gettin tired of ubuntuguide05:56
danko123Tolja: pppoe?05:56
naliothdanko123: i've found several screwed up things there05:56
danko123nalioth: well, for this guy, for that issue, it is the right thing.05:56
delirereka: framebuffer devices, he has none defined yet his config was told to look for one.05:56
toxicfumedelire: nope, doesn't work :S05:56
robert_still doesnt work05:56
Toljadanko123, what? :)05:56
deliretoxicfume: what is the error. read the logs.05:56
Rebroadrobert_: what browser?05:56
deliretoxicfume: you may have several errors.05:57
robert_mozilla05:57
robert_the default one05:57
danko123Tolja: your install does not get to configure the network, right, are you usign DSL, by any chance?05:57
Rebroadrobert_: firefox?05:57
medkitgrub resides in hd1,005:57
deliretoxicfume: also, did you 'modprobe fglrx' first?05:57
robert_oh rite05:57
deliretoxicfume: you must have the driver _loaded_05:57
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Toljadanko123, i'm using dsl right05:57
naliothdanko123: wish some of it worked for me05:57
robert_mozilla - firefox :-\05:57
danko123nalioth: yeah, me too.05:57
danko123:)05:57
danko123Tolja: well, taht is why dhcp wont work on install.05:57
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toxicfumedelire: (EE) No devices detected.05:58
OLdNavYHi05:58
danko123once you are installed, run sudo pppoeconf and set up your DSL.05:58
OLdNavYanybody can help me incase he is the boSs?05:58
toxicfumedelire: no i didn't do that first05:58
medkitgrub is booting Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-k7, Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-2-k7 and windoze05:58
Chambers`anyone tried wine with winetools?  I keep getting errors saying wine.bin regedit, doesn't know the command05:58
deliretoxicfume: and fglrx is loaded? check with 'lsmod | grep fglrx'05:58
Rebroadrobert_: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#q2.205:58
danko123Im off to bed, 4 real now.05:58
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toxicfumedelire: yes, it returns fglrx 229568 005:58
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OLdNavYIam downloading Intel x86 live CD Waiting for it to be done 100% I wanna know how to remaster this distro ( build my own distro) based on ubuntu any body can help me ?05:59
medkitit worked perfectly since (hd2,0) - there is the windows partition - died05:59
rekatoxicfume: have you rebooted?05:59
danko123hd2,0 is the third hard disk in your computer.05:59
toxicfumereka: rebooted since when?05:59
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medkitright, danko123, the hdd is gone05:59
rekatoxicfume: ah, nm.  if fglrx is loaded already, don't worry.05:59
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danko123first partition, whereas hd0,2 would be third partition on first hd05:59
medkitnow grub only boots ubuntu the 2nd time06:00
toxicfumereka: hehe okay06:00
OLdNavYIam downloading Intel x86 live CD Waiting for it to be done 100% I wanna know how to remaster this distro ( build my own distro) based on ubuntu any body can help me ?  ?????????????????????????06:00
Rebroadrobert_: trying to find you a better faq06:00
deliretoxicfume: is 'radeon' and 'ati' also loaded? if so modprobe -r both of those. modprobe -r == module remove, unload06:00
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robert_ok06:00
robert_i dont know where plugins directory is06:00
medkitthe 1st time it just hangs at the word "boot"06:00
raDeonwho calls for me06:00
medkiti use strg alt del06:00
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toxicfumedelire: nope, ati and radeon are not loaded06:00
medkitthe system boots again, comes to grub and then it is bootin ubuntu06:00
Rebroadrobert_: probably ~/.mozilla-firefox/plugins or something like that06:00
Toljadanko123, what to put in this field? http://koti.mbnet.fi/tolja/domain.jpg06:01
danko123no, its not that.06:01
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deliretoxicfume: is that the only EE 'error' line?06:01
danko123tolja, nothing or anything.06:01
rekadanko123: night :-)06:01
toxicfumedelire: yes, that is the only one06:01
ToljaMy cd drive broke and i can't install anything without the internets06:01
toxicfumedelire: no more EEs06:01
andrewskidoes anyone understand font hinting?  i can't get mine to look right unless i run with gksudo: http://img123.echo.cx/img123/7816/fontstrangeness8fa.png06:01
danko123reka, the no its not that was for the plugins.06:01
deliretoxicfume: that's disappointing. should be more than that.06:02
rekadanko123: i know.  you said you were going to bed twice06:02
Toljadanko123, it says "no valid mirror was configured"06:02
aciDHeadhas someone running a webcam with ubuntu ?06:02
danko123robert_: well, this should help you get it working: http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre .06:02
danko123oh, you said night, not right.06:02
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deliretoxicfume: when you 'modprobe fglrx' do you get any odd output?06:02
rekatoxicfume: did you generate the xorg.conf file with reconfigure?06:02
deliretoxicfume: complaints, warnings etc?06:02
toxicfumedelire: let me try06:02
robert_thanks a lot, ill try it06:02
Chambers`whats a good cd burning software for ubuntu?  Also, what about mp3's player software?  I have a mpio mp3 player06:03
danko123tolja, did you try tolja?06:03
rekadanko123: right06:03
reka:-)06:03
danko123for domain name?06:03
blpharishey, i just installed ubuntu and the resolution is fubar'd, can anybody help me figure this out06:03
blpharisor point me to some help on the web06:03
rekablpharis: fubar'd how?06:03
Rebroadrobert_: the system plugins directory for firefox is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins06:03
Toljadanko123, i have no idea what to put in there06:03
toxicfumedelire: nope, doesn't return anything :s06:03
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danko123put in tolja06:03
danko123"tolja"06:03
Rebroadrobert_: but to run the "ln -s..." command you'll need to prepend "sudo"06:03
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toxicfumereka: yes i did (just chose the default selection, which is Yes i think)06:03
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danko123"tolja.org"06:03
blpharisit defaults to 640x480 and going to screen resolution won't let me select anything different06:03
danko123something along those lines06:03
deliretoxicfume: is this hoary? dd you upgrade from warty?06:03
blphariswhen i try xorgcfg it won't start06:04
robert_ok06:04
rekatoxicfume: did you backup your original xorg.conf file?06:04
Tolja"no valid mirror was configured"06:04
danko123Rebroad: did you check out the other http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre ?06:04
thechitowncubsWhat is the easiest method to create a samba share without a password?06:04
LinuxJonesblpharis,  >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:04
toxicfumedelire: yes it's hoary (how do i recheck?) and no, it's not an upgrade06:04
blpharisi get an error about fbmmx.o no symbols defined06:04
danko123Tolja: did you try both tolja and tolja.org06:04
danko123?06:04
ToljaYes06:04
Shuddertrixthechitowncubs: #samba06:05
ToljaDidn't work06:05
toxicfumereka: not that i remember, but i thought it autmatically backed up the original xorg.conf file (But why does that matter cause X never worked for me )06:05
deliretoxicfume: i would generate a new xorg.conf. i think your current one is broken in other areas. we've fixed the framebuffer dev problem, you need to find what else is broken. your ati card will work well when you actually get into X ;)06:05
danko123why would that be giving you trouble...06:05
Rebroaddanko123, robert_: ah.. http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre is a better one.. didn't realise there was more than one.06:05
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toxicfumedelire: how do i do that?06:05
rekatoxicfume: what delire said, your xorg.conf file is borked.  so you never could start X even from a fresh install?06:05
danko123Rebroad: YEAH, somewhat better, sorry caps...06:05
deliretoxicfume: the other option, is that you use the ati.com config generator.. want to try that?06:06
toxicfumereka: nope i couldn't06:06
Rebroaddanko123: why have they made the newer version so much worse?06:06
robert_kk got it06:06
blpharisthanks for that linuxjones, i think its the vert sync not detected problem06:06
robert_thanks, ill look those over06:06
danko123ask jiyuu0.06:06
ToljaI don't have access to the install cd anymore and i can't configure the network properly :/06:06
Echelon-Hcan I run xmms with repeat option on?06:06
danko123he is the one that does those.06:06
Echelon-HI mean, is there any parameter to set that?06:06
toxicfumereka: nope i couldn't, i just installed it 2 days ago, and it has never ever worked so far06:06
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danko123Echelon-H: what is repeat?06:06
rekatoxicfume: and what is your card?06:06
danko123like, loop?06:06
danko123x70006:06
jiyuu0danko123, ask me what?06:06
toxicfumereka and delire: btw, be aware that this is a laptop i'm running ubuntu on06:06
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Echelon-Hdanko123, yeah06:06
toxicfumereka: ati mobility radeon x700(64mb)06:07
deliretoxicfume: 'fglrxconfig' and go through all the options choosing defaults.06:07
Fator_Deetoxicfume: what laptop it is?06:07
tiglionabbitrebroad: Actually I was able to get java 1.5 just fine from the restricted formats faq06:07
deliretoxicfume: that card works great. i use it on my workstation.06:07
Rebroaddanko123: how do I ask jiyuu0?06:07
toxicfumedelire: okay06:07
jiyuu0Rebroad, i'm here06:07
danko123jiyuu0: Rebroad is wondering why your new version of java insatll on your ubuntuguide site is worse than the old 4.10 version, what is th difference.06:07
toxicfumeFator_Dee: Acer Aspire 1692WLMi06:07
jiyuu0Rebroad, what's the prob?06:07
toxicfumedelire: you use the same mobility version on your workstation?06:07
LinuxJonesblpharis,  it works for me :)06:08
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urbanfoxwhat package contains libz?06:08
Rebroadjiyuu0: the ubuntuguide.org seems to be much less verbose, and less useful to newbies for installing java with firefixd06:08
danko123jiyuu0: he finds the old version much better, and I se how, cause it is more down to the cli level, instead of using apt...06:08
Rebroadjiyuu0: *firefox06:08
Echelon-Hdanko123, got any clue?06:08
jiyuu0Rebroad, meaning u prefer to use CLI more than apt-get?06:08
Rebroaddanko123: oh... does the new ubuntuguide.org work for java on firefox just as well?06:08
danko123Echelon-H: if you are talking about just putting a song to repeat, instaead of ending at the end, there is a gui button for that, in the bottom right06:08
jiyuu0Rebroad, yes it does06:09
danko123Rebroad: yeah, it does work, I think, does it?06:09
danko123yeah.06:09
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jiyuu0i just updated the sources.list06:09
Echelon-Hdanko123, i know that, but im wondering if there is a parameter that i can perform that.06:09
Rebroadjiyuu0: as far as I could tell, robert tried the commands mentioned in the new guide, but I only have his word for that! I got it working using the 4.10 version.06:09
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deliretoxicfume: not the mobility..06:09
Echelon-Hanyways, any of you guys know how to un-install a game that was installed from a .run file?06:09
danko123why? I dont get why you would need that, but...... man xmms may know...06:09
jiyuu0previously the java way of installing is the manual way06:09
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jiyuu0now it's apt-get06:10
jiyuu0easier06:10
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Rebroadrobert_: you still here?06:10
danko123why do you even start xmms from terminal?06:10
toxicfumedelire: but this is the mobility though..06:10
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: look into the games directory if there's a "uninstall" file06:10
thechitowncubsCan anyone confirm that on the right column where the upcoming game time and pitcher matchup on www.cubs.com is covered up for some reason (even when the video doesn't pop up), why does flash act differently in *nix than it does in win?06:10
Echelon-HFator_Dee, k, one moment.06:10
Rebroadjiyuu0: I agree apt-get is easier. K.I.S.S, as they say06:10
danko123cause...06:10
tiglionabbitechelon-h: or read the .run script and see if it accepts parameters like -r06:10
jiyuu0K.I.S.S????06:10
toxicfumedelire: okay i did fglrxconfig, but it genereated a different file, "XF86Config-4" not xorg.conf06:10
deliretoxicfume: no i'm talking just about the radeon card..06:11
Rebroadjiyuu0: Keep It Simple, Stupid (KISS)06:11
jiyuu0hehe06:11
rekathechitowncubs: a guess: the site was designed for IE. rather than using correct HTML.06:11
deliretoxicfume: eek..06:11
sijmeni've tried many things, but how to find out which file supplies libnss-ldap.conf? it is not yet installed for sure06:11
raDeonhow can i help you delire06:11
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delireraDeon: you can't you have chosen a concidental nickname06:11
Echelon-HFator_Dee, i dont see any file like uninstall06:11
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toxicfumedelire: but i guess ubuntu may work well for normal x700 but maybe not the mobility x700?06:11
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thechitowncubsreka: it doesn't do that on the windows firefox either06:11
danko123thechitowncubs: what exactly?06:11
toxicfumedelire: what do i do now? :S I'm pretty sure XF86Config-4 is a different format from xorg.conf06:12
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: what game are you exactly trying to uninstall?06:12
deliretoxicfume: it should be fine. just a moment i'll check.06:12
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rekatoxicfume: i think they are interchangeable, try and rename it to xorg.conf.06:12
danko123thechitowncubs: I dont see that column on the left...06:12
danko123Ill give you a screenshot, tho.06:12
RebroadI think to make ubuntu really idiot proof, something like the wayback filesystem would be a nice addition06:12
deliretoxicfume: yeah, try to rename it.. ati is still catching up with the xorg format.06:12
Echelon-HFator_Dee, enemy territory06:12
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Bizzehhmmn06:12
rekaRebroad: wayback?06:12
thechitowncubsThe video player that pops up covers up the only thing I want to see on that page, the upcoming game info... and it gets covered up by flash im assuming06:13
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: it has a uninstall file and I'm sure of it because I have uninstalled it06:13
Rebroadreka: It's supposedly supposed to make it easy to revert your drive to an older version if you screw up, but I've not tried it myself.06:13
rekadelire: the fglrxconfig program should ahve outputted an xorg.conf file06:13
rekawerid06:13
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: in what directory you are trying to look for it?06:13
Echelon-HFator_Dee, I can't find it in the game dir.06:13
reka*weird06:13
toxicfumedelire: okay, so i'll rename it and put it in the /etc/X11/?06:13
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Echelon-Henemy territory...06:13
Echelon-His it supposed to be in some other dir?06:13
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: the *exact* path06:13
raDeonHAHA ENEMEY TERRIOTYR06:13
Echelon-Hone sec06:14
Rebroadreka: I suspect it's no where near as polished a product as GoBack for MS Windows.06:14
toxicfumedelire: err, i think it's already in the same folder, i won't have to move it, but how do i rename?06:14
danko123thechitowncubs: http://www.mts.net/~danb/Screenshot-4.png .06:14
rekatoxicfume: back up the old one first! then sudo mv XFree86 (or whatever) xorg.conf06:14
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Echelon-HFator_Dee, /home/echelon/enemy territory06:14
Echelon-HFator_Dee, /home/echelon/enemy-territory06:14
deliretoxicfume: use 'mv origfile targetfile'06:14
toxicfumereka: okay i'll back up..but it doesn't work anywats :(06:15
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: you asked it to install it to that directory?06:15
deliretoxicfume: yes but cp (backup) the old one first as reka says ;)06:15
Echelon-Hyeah, it was default.06:15
reka:-)  weird, it should have at least worked from a fresh install.06:15
danko123raDeon: enema territory...:)06:15
thechitowncubsyep, thats the problem danko :/06:15
danko123so it looks like yours?06:15
thechitowncubswhere that blue box is should be upcoming game stuff06:15
thechitowncubsyep06:15
danko123oh, the blue box, yeah yeah06:15
Rebroadreka: I'm looking into writing a GoBack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goback) equivalent for Linux, but it's going to probably involve a fair bit of kernel hacking...06:15
thechitowncubsrefresh and you will see what supposed to be there if you look real fast06:16
deliretoxicfume: where did you get the fglrx package from by the way?06:16
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rekatoxicfume: normally, people run into X problems when they fiddle around or try to enable 3D.06:16
toxicfumedelire and reka: okay done06:16
danko123did you hit the little arrow?06:16
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deliretoxicfume: startx06:16
danko123I can see video///06:16
toxicfumedelire: danko123 sent it to me06:16
thechitowncubsYa, me too06:16
thechitowncubsbut thats not what i want to see06:16
thechitowncubsshould I contact the webmaster?06:16
toxicfumedelire: nope, won't work06:16
deliretoxicfume: what did he send to you?06:16
danko123it is the newest one, tho...06:16
thechitowncubsor is it a flash/linux issue?06:16
danko123we tried sudo apt-get installing it, and it said newwest version already installed.06:17
deliretoxicfume: you'll need to compile it for your system of it certainly won't work06:17
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rekaRebroad: newbies don't like kernel hacking.  or did you mean kernel hacking for you?06:17
deliretoxicfume: this is what i do. want to know?06:17
toxicfumedelire: xorg-drver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb06:17
deliretoxicfume: ok06:17
Rebroadreka: well, hopefully the kernel changes might one day be included in the ubuntu distribution06:17
danko123thechitowncubs: yeah, it is likely that, but, still contact him:)06:17
deliretoxicfume: what architecture is your computer?06:17
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danko123tell him to use flash taht works everywhere....06:18
novaflarei just wish ati had better linux drivers06:18
delirenovaflare: they are great now.06:18
toxicfumedelire: x86 i guess? 32bit pentium m centrino 1.7ghz06:18
novaflarein windows ati linux support is only so so06:18
danko123uname -r right?06:18
rekaRebroad: it'd definitely be useful06:18
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deliretoxicfume: ok.. the *only* error you get is that single line now? what error?06:18
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toxicfumedelire: let me check the log again...one sec06:19
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rekapoor bugger06:19
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raDeonwho keeps calling me06:19
delirenovaflare: they are very good now. i am a 3d graphics programmer and have gone over their new drivers closely. in some cases they out perform their windows counterparts. still buggy in a couple of areas but a massive improvement on drivers from them a year ago.06:19
raDeond00d enemy territory is the shiznit06:20
novaflarejust curious reka do you know what bugger accualy means ?06:20
raDeonbut it's madd old yo06:20
novaflarehmm06:20
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toxicfumedelire: now i get (EE) Failed to load module "Keyboard" (module does not exist, 0)06:20
deliretoxicfume: hehe told you ;)06:20
novaflareim useing fglrx06:20
toxicfumedelire: and still the (EE) No devices detected06:20
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rekanovaflare: apps->accessories->dictionary.  :-) something like bastard i'd presume :-)06:20
novaflarehahah06:21
novaflareum not exactly :)06:21
Echelon-HFator_Dee, got any clue?06:21
danko123you have a dictionary there?06:21
rekanovaflare: "guilty of buggery"06:21
deliretoxicfume: ok i don't think the problem is your gfx card anymore. it's other devices.06:21
rekanovaflare: i.e. sodomy :-)06:21
novaflareheh06:21
raDeonbugger is someone who commits sodomy06:21
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rekadanko123: in gnome, yes.06:21
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: if the uninstall file isn't there, I don't have any clues06:21
novaflarewell i use to say it all the time till i learned what it ment heh06:21
danko123wow...06:22
novaflarei remember people sayin oh what a cute little ugger06:22
danko123raDeon: really?06:22
raDeonyes06:22
danko123wow06:22
toxicfumedelire: oh..but onething i noticed06:22
danko123sodomy is like what? Ill dict it, dont even go there...06:22
aciDHeadis there an v4l channel somewhere ???06:22
rekanovaflare: well, no one wants to be called an ugger. ;-)06:22
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toxicfumedelire: in the logs, there are a big list of cards mentioned, but mine isn't mentioned (there is no MOBILITY RADEON x700)06:22
raDeonhaha yeah look up sodomy06:22
rekadanko123:  ()()  <|====06:23
danko123hahahah lol06:23
danko123come on...06:23
danko123lol06:23
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rekahang on, these are better:  (_)(_)06:23
deliretoxicfume: many thousands of people run your mobility card in linux. google.com/linux to see this.06:23
toxicfumedelire: oh okay06:23
danko123lmao...:)06:23
novaflareso delire with atis offical drivers what do i need to do to install them? And can i expect a 3d performance gain with them?06:23
toxicfumedelire: so how do i find out which devices are the problem? :(06:23
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rekadanko123: i thought you were going to bed?  you'll have sweet dreams tonight. :-)06:24
=== Shuddertrix perfers nvidia for linux glx needs. ;)
raDeonati users are buggers06:24
novaflare...06:24
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danko123reka: It is not night, I just woke up...I am sick, so I should be in bed, yes...06:24
Shuddertrixati users have it bad in linux, from what i hear06:24
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danko123raDeon is an ATI card, so, by induction, it follows....06:24
rekanovaflare: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto06:25
hondjeati users are screwed06:25
hondjeThey spend hours of work, and then get shite performance in linux :(06:25
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danko123it works in the end.06:25
deliretoxicfume: i don't know what to suggest now without being present, sadly. i would suggest dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:25
raDeoni dont use a radeon though06:25
deliretoxicfume: and go through the list of options carefully.06:25
danko123whatever, you are the thing in itself...06:25
ShuddertrixraDeon: go you then. unless it's a rage.06:25
rekahondje: i wouldn't call a three step process "hours"06:25
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delirehondje: not at all. just using the ubuntu installation method it seems. i have had little problems with ati drivers over the last year or two.06:26
medkitTo install the ATI fglrx drivers 8.12.10 and get xconf to work:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread was helpful06:26
hondjehrm, there goes my ATI troll :(06:26
medkitbut you have to read the full threa to the end06:26
novaflarehmm i didnt think fglrx were the ati drivers from ati.com06:27
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toxicfumedelire: arrgh, this sucks..thanks for the help though :)06:27
novaflarei got the fglrx installed06:27
hondjeI have all nvidia cards, so it's never bit me06:27
rvangemerthello all06:27
deliretoxicfume: must be very frustrating. see what medkit said perhaps?06:27
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medkitbut it took me about 10 hours to figure all out06:27
deliretoxicfume: perhaps go back to the device name 'ati' until you have a better solution? i always grab the driver straight from ati.com and compile it. takes about 5 mintues to get up and running using that method.06:29
toxicfumehmm06:30
toxicfumeyou know what06:30
novaflaredelire whats the gain over fglrx with atis drivers from atis site?06:30
danko123man, wtf.... I hate this.l..I brioke my linux again...06:30
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delirenovaflare: fglrx are the drivers from the ati site.06:30
toxicfumei think the problem is select the refrsh rates...cause i really don't know what refresh rate i need to select for my LCD monitor on my laptop06:30
novaflareo ok06:30
novaflarehmm06:30
tim167hi all, anyone know anything about webcam support on ubuntu ? I have 3 cheap cams here and I want to use them on ubuntu. Its a logitech quickcam express, a labtec (sort of webcam express clone) and a Peabird mini webcam)06:30
delirenovaflare: ubuntu just repackage them06:30
robert_w00t w00t i installed java06:30
novaflarek06:30
danko123great, rob.06:30
novaflareis what i thought06:30
robert_finally..06:30
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Echelon-Hanyone knows why my hebrew is not working in OpenOffice and it is in gedit?06:30
novaflareknow any performance/quality tweaks for them delire ?06:31
deliretoxicfume: extremely likely. if you look at the whole log you may see other signs.06:31
novaflarei got a few minor isues in both areas06:31
hondjeEchelon-H: OpenOffice doesn't get its settings from the desktop06:31
toxicfumedelire: not that i understand :/06:31
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danko123tim167:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:31
rekatoxicfume: do you know what resolution you can go up to in windows?06:31
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medkitrefresh rate on lcd almost: 60 hz or 75 hz06:31
raDeonVanlal, me too06:31
Echelon-Hhondje, which means?06:31
toxicfumewhat colour depth should my lcd monitor be? 16bits? or 24bits? or another?06:31
Vanlalheh ...06:31
Echelon-HI can use hebrew in it?06:31
raDeonit's already been a day06:31
deliretoxicfume: i'd give you my email address but you can't send it outside of X can you..06:31
raDeonand still no sign of them06:31
hondjeEchelon-H: You have to dig around the settings in OpenOffice06:31
icemanany one know a good place to get theme packages besides kde-look ...06:31
toxicfumereka: my lcd's default resolution in windows is 1280x800 (widescreen)06:31
Echelon-Hhondje, k06:32
tim167ok thanks ! I ll have a look06:32
hondjeEchelon-H: Or, now that I think about it, they probably have a language pack06:32
toxicfumedelire: nope, isn't there a way to configure pop3 in console?06:32
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hondjeEchelon-H: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-l10n-he06:33
danko123toxicfume: mailx works in console.06:33
danko123man mailx06:33
danko123for sending emails, right?06:33
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Bramdvdrip asks me for a device number in n,n,n format06:33
Bramwhere do i find that ?06:34
Echelon-Hhondje, wow, that was fast06:34
tim167what program can I use to test a webcam ?06:34
danko123man, ugh!! anyone have any pointers on why my movies wont play anymore, its been working for a long time now...06:34
hondjeEchelon-H: I'm a apt-cache search ninja06:34
Echelon-Hhondje, but one momeny maybe I got it sorted up.06:34
danko123tim167: gnome-meeting.06:34
Echelon-Hhondje, lol06:34
rvangemerttim167: gnomemeeting06:34
hondjeEchelon-H: That, and I installed Korean OOorg yesterday06:34
tim167:)06:34
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danko123my movies have been playing always, and now I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx even tho I dont have that card, and after removing it, it is still not working...06:35
rvangemertdanko: codecs?06:35
rvangemertooh06:35
danko123rvangemert: it has been working for a while now...06:35
danko123I borked it somehow.06:35
toxicfumedanko123: yup, and preferrably sending attachments too :)06:35
rvangemertyes i know now ;)06:35
Echelon-Hhmmm06:35
danko123starts playing, and then freezes.06:35
rekadanko123: you installed xorg and you don't have an ATI card?06:35
danko123I wonder what I did.06:35
danko123:) reka06:35
Echelon-Hwhy is it sometimes that apt-get install asks me if I want to install and sometimes not?06:35
reka*fglrx06:35
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Chambers`whats the best way to refresh the gnome panel?06:35
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rekaChambers`: killall gnome-panel06:36
raDeonChambers`, hit f506:36
Chambers`thanks06:36
danko123toxicfume: yeah, mailx email@address.org <file.tx06:36
hondjeEchelon-H: I'd imagine that when it asks, it needs to download more than just what you told it to06:36
danko123man mailx for more info06:36
raDeonno problem06:36
danko123right from your computer to his email address.06:36
Echelon-Hhondje, oh.06:36
lonewolffEchelon-H: just installing what you asked it just goes ahead, if its installing what you asked for as well as other packaged (dependencies) it asks so you can check what its installing06:36
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Brammewhere can i find the device number of my cdwriter ?06:36
Echelon-Hhondje, wow, the kpbs is SLOW. im donwloading on 270B!!06:36
hondje:(06:37
toxicfumedanko123: thanks:)06:37
Echelon-Hlonewolff, thanks :)06:37
danko123yup06:37
rvangemertdanko: maybe this will help you set the right gfx driver for xorg>> sudo xorg -configure06:37
hondjeHey, there seem to be people who know this sorta thing here....what's better for sound, a52 or ac3?06:37
medkitI need a hint to play xvid avis. Totem or Mplayer are quitting out with errors.06:37
rekamedkit: what errors?06:38
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rvangemertmedkit, dit you install the win32codecs06:38
rvangemert?06:38
Echelon-Hcan I abort in the middle of the download?06:38
medkitwin32codecs installed06:38
rvangemertok06:38
hondjeEchelon-H: yeah, shouldn't cause a problem06:38
medkitTotem says: resource not available06:38
rekamedkit: totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?06:38
medkitMplayer says: error in decoding audio stram06:38
medkittotem-gstreaer06:39
rvangemerthmm06:39
rekamedkit: try killall esd06:39
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danko123um:(... I should not do these things to my comp... anyhow... this is a picture you can see, to testify I am sick... http://www.mts.net/~danb/dscn0352.jpg its a bit high res.06:39
Echelon-Hbah, can I download from a faster source?06:39
Echelon-Hbecasuse the apt-get was just SLOW Now.06:39
rekaEchelon-H: i think there are mirros out there.  are you in the US?06:40
reka*mirrors06:40
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Echelon-Hreka, i'm in israel.06:40
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rekaEchelon-H: hmmm, what's the domain name?06:40
danko123tghats why you are trying to install hebrew support:)06:40
Echelon-Hreka, but it doesn't matter, anything would be faster than 207B06:40
rekafor israel?06:40
medkitkillall esd - no effect reka06:40
Echelon-Hdanko123, yeah, hehe.06:41
danko123should not give output, medkit.06:41
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danko123try your movies now.06:41
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hondjeAnyone? libac3 vs liba52?06:41
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Echelon-Hreka, uuuhh netvision.net.il?06:41
tommyds06:41
tommyholler back youngins06:42
danko123sudo xorg -configure is not a command, which one did you mean, teebones?06:42
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rekaEchelon-H: try appending il.  sort of like this: deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted06:42
rekain your repo list06:42
teebonesdanko: i mean ehm.. let me see.. i know xorg has such function06:42
danko123dpkg --reconfigure xorg?06:43
medkitMplayer interupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio06:43
tim167I get no 'device found' in gnome meeting webcam settings, do I have to restart with camera connected or is this enough proof that my cams aren't supported?06:43
danko123is that what you mean?06:43
Echelon-Hreka, do you know reka means background in hebrew :P?06:43
danko123tim167: are they listed in that list I gave you?06:43
Echelon-Hyou write it like this:06:43
Echelon-H06:43
danko123ooh, facny.06:43
Echelon-H:D06:43
rekaEchelon-H: i think you told me yesterday. :-)06:43
rekait also means "right" in slavik apparently.06:43
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Echelon-Hreka, Yeah, i just wasn't so sure.06:44
danko123in yugoslavian/serbian, it means river06:44
rekacool :-)06:44
Echelon-Hreka, where are you from anyway? and what reka means @ your place?06:44
tim167one of them is, logitech quickcam express, marked 'not out of the box'06:44
teebonesdanko: try this...06:44
rekai'm in aus.  i just chopped the first few letters of "eureka"06:44
teebonessudo Xorg --configure06:44
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teebonesand oh yeah.. use 1 dash.. not 206:45
danko123teebones: http://pastebin.com/291730 .06:45
danko123k06:45
danko123just a sec06:45
pgavinuhh...06:45
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danko123no, no such command, again, I mean, no such option.06:45
raDeongagagahgahahah a teebone06:46
rekamedkit: sounds like an audio problem, but are you only having the problem with xvid files?06:46
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pgavinwhy would my key bindings in gnome get all screwed up like they are now?06:46
teebonesdanko: ehmm what did you type ?06:46
teebones(exactly)06:46
pgavinlike, in gnome-terminal, ctrl-shift-t closes the current tab06:46
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danko123http://pastebin.com/291731 teebones.06:46
rekapgavin: and it's not working now?06:46
pgavinctrl-f in synaptic closes synaptic entirely06:46
raDeonHAHA TEEBONES06:47
medkitreka: i can hear music from cd and play mp3.06:47
syn1how do i get Xfce4 to auto detect printers?06:47
rekamedkit: what about vid files?06:47
syn1on my lan06:47
pgavinreka: well, ctrl-shift-t is supposed to *open* a new tab06:47
teebonesdanko: yes you need to exit X06:47
teebones;-)06:47
rekasyn1: you might find better help at #xfce06:47
pgavinreka: and now it closes the tab instead06:47
umarmungHow can I mount a reiserfs partition as user:user instead as root:root?06:47
stimpieI created a vfat filesystem on a floppy, if I now copy a file with a long name to it. the file name gets shorten to the 8.3 lenght what am I doing wrong?06:47
syn1reka: but im running xfce on top of ubuntu.06:47
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rekapgavin: system->prefs->k/b shortcuts06:48
medkitvid files: no go. Tried the game civ3 yesterday: no sound. Should i choose another sound architecture like alsa?06:48
rekapgavin: in gnome-terminal: edit->k/b shortcuts06:48
naliothsynd: how goes the hunt for gkrellm, superkaramba or gdesklets?06:48
teebonesdanko: do this: make backup of your current config.. then exit X .. on the console type: sudo Xorg -configure06:48
danko123teebones: yes, what exactly should I do,. I dont even think its that, Ill try something else, brb.06:48
syndnalioth: i decided on gkrellm06:48
teebonesthat follow the instruction to test the new configure it made for you06:48
Echelon-His there a command to run openoffice writer through the terminal?06:49
Amaranthteebones: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg would be better06:49
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rekasynd: OK, i assumed XFCE uses a different print management system.06:49
teebonesok..06:49
stimpieEchelon-H, oowriter06:49
teebones;)06:49
Echelon-Hstimpie, thanks!06:49
pgavinreka: I never changed those, and even if I set them, they still are messed up06:49
naliothsynd: simple is best06:49
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tiglionabbitEchelon-H: if you right-click on something and select Edit Item or Properties or something, it will have the command in a Command field06:50
pgavinreka: maybe I should just rm -rf ~/.gnome :b06:50
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syndnalioth: simple? whatcha mean06:50
danko123bah06:50
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teebonesAmaranth: I'm new to Ubuntu and thus Debian distro, but i have long time experience with linux (other distro's).. and so i am a newbie with apt commands ;-)06:50
rekapgavin: maybe.  just don't blame me.06:50
Rebroaddanko123: isn't it a bit silly that in order to write a CD, one must have 700Mb of free disk space so that the files to be burned can be copied to the same disk beforehand?06:50
pgavinreka: lol :b06:50
tiglionabbitteebones: well, apt is easy, and you'll love it06:50
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Echelon-Hreka, i installed what you told me and I still can't see hebrew06:51
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naliothsynd: gkrellm is the oldest and least intensive proggy for what you are after06:51
teebonesyes, so i read.. that's why i've installed ubuntu.. (just to get the apt feeling)06:51
Rebroadnalioth: better than ksysguard?06:51
tiglionabbitteebones: if you want a really easy frontend, try synaptic.  People like aptitude too.  Or just remember the commands `apt-get install thepackaganame`, `apt-cache search forsomething` and apt-get update to refresh it, apt-get upgrade to upgrade /everything06:52
syndnalioth: thats true.06:52
syndnalioth: i tried gdesklets as well, and wasnt able to get it working very well06:52
teebonesi prefer the commands above the gui tools06:52
teebones;)06:52
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tiglionabbitteebones: but synaptic is fun!06:52
tiglionabbitand synaptic shows the extended descriptions of packages as you browse it06:53
ompaulRebroad, if you think about it you can have two *rom drives and with that setup you can with a third disk being the operating system copy one from another - however if you want to you can grab several sources and put them together in a single file which then gets burnt to disk06:53
Echelon-Hreka, sorry i got disconnected06:53
Echelon-Hreka, can you help me maybe with that?06:53
tiglionabbithelps you make a better decision06:53
cablefishhi there. when I run xmms (or the beep-media-player for that sake), it hangs, plus it sends this message to stderr: libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. I apt-get'd those.06:53
teebonesi've seen synaptic.. it's nicely done!06:53
syndyou know how in gnome you can detect LAN printers with the printer util?06:53
danko123456i fixed it...06:53
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danko123456not even sure how.06:53
rekaEchelon-H: sure you got the right guy?  i didn't tell you to install anything. :-)06:53
Echelon-Hreka, oh.. right O_o06:53
rekalol06:53
Echelon-Hbut now I lost the log so I can't know who it is.06:53
teebonesbut the thing with synaptic (and other gui's) is that i don't know how to do it from console06:54
rekahang on, i'll search the buffer06:54
danko123456I suck at fixing, and braking my computer, I always screw something up, I dont even know what screws it up...06:54
tiglionabbitteebones: sudo synaptic06:54
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Rebroadompaul: I have a single 702MB file which I want to burn to CD. assuming I have no free disk space - is this possible?06:54
synddanko123456: its always good to start from scratch06:54
danko123456synd: like what?06:54
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syndRebroad: well i hope you have CDR that can hold over 700mb : )06:54
naliothRebroad: don't know whay ksysgaurd is, and synd wanted to stay away from the bloat that is KDE06:55
Dalkushe could compress it06:55
Rebroadsynd: well, it's a 700mb CDR, but can't I "overburn" it or something like that?06:55
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Dalkusyeah but it might be risky, depending on the cd-r's you use06:55
ompaulRebroad, not that I am aware of as you will have to create an iso image which takes space06:55
tiglionabbitwhat, like overclock?  =p lol06:55
rekaEchelon-H: it was hondje06:55
Rebroadompaul: i see06:55
Dalkusompaul, k3b could burn it straight off06:55
rekahondje Echelon-H: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-l10n-he06:55
hondjetwas I indeed!06:56
teebonestiglion: thanks for the tip.. but i will try to use the command way as often as my lazyness allows me ;-)06:56
ompaulDalkus, kwel then Rebroad use k3b if you have it installed06:56
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tiglionabbitteebones: k.  RTFM then06:56
Rebroadompaul: I have k3b installed, but it doesn't seem to want to run06:56
tiglionabbit`man apt`06:56
Echelon-Hreka, dont that...06:56
Dalkuswhat's the error, Rebroad06:56
danko123456man apt-get06:56
Echelon-Hhondje, hey, got any clue why can't I see the hebrew after I installed it?06:57
naliothRebroad: you can overburn 702mb on a disk06:57
hondjeNo, I wouldn't know, sorry06:57
hondjeUnless you were lacking fonts or something06:57
teebonesuhuh..06:57
DalkusRebroad, try doing 'sudo apt-get install cdrecord'06:57
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teeboneshey Danko: how's things now?06:57
RebroadDalkus, nalioth: I get the KDE Crash Handler after the k3b splash screen06:57
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Dalkus^06:57
raDeonpseudo06:57
naliothRebroad: depending on the media, sometimes you can get 15 or more mb "overburnt"06:57
danko123456teebones: I posted above taht I fixed it.06:57
RebroadDalkus: already have cdrecord installed06:58
teebonessorry.. must have missed it06:58
teebones;)06:58
danko123456thanks:)06:58
Dalkuswhat error does the crash handler give?06:58
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RiddellRebroad: what output do you get when runing k3b on the command line?06:58
Echelon-Hbaah I need yahalom over here.06:58
tiglionabbitsay, odd thing.  I have a bazillion fonts, but Firefox doesn't seem to use them.  In fact, some fonts come up as invisible.  Most of them are bland even when they are set to font-family:fantasy or cursive06:58
rekacablefish: try changing the ouput plugin to esd06:58
danko123456I just tweaked my video player, and did 10 more things, restarted X and it works.06:58
thoreauputicRebroad: have you installed cdrdao ?06:58
reka*esound06:58
Dalkusif no error, run k3b from the commandline and see if one is printed after it clsoes06:58
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RebroadRiddell: lots of output, but the last line says: k3b: (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/hdc:  Number of supported write speeds via 2A: -106:59
RebroadKCrash: Application 'k3b' crashing...06:59
hondjeAre there any official ubuntu cflags I should use when making a package?07:00
Rebroadthoreauputic: i have cdrdao installed, yes07:00
thoreauputicOK07:00
danko123456OK!!!07:00
naliothRebroad: thoreauputic not sure but does gnomebaker or graveman overburn?07:00
Dalkusthe last line dosn't help... is there anything in the error that is suggestive...?07:00
thoreauputicnalioth: I don't know07:00
teebonesidea.. sudo cdrecord -scanbus07:00
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teebonesdoes your writer shows up?07:01
robert_how do i run python in script mode?07:01
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tiglionabbitrobert_: isn't python a scripting language by default?07:02
Rebroadteebones: it couldn't open /dev/pg*07:02
thoreauputicrobert_: read the tutorials on http://python.org  << quite good07:02
robert_how do i program in it though?07:02
daba_sckhahaha07:02
daba_scklol07:02
robert_i opened terminal and typed python07:02
daba_sckgo take a course07:02
Dalkusrobert_, google for some python tutorials......?07:02
RiddellRebroad: can you get a backtrace?07:02
tiglionabbitrobert_: you probably write a text file starting with #! and the location of your python interpreter, followed by lines of code07:02
thoreauputicrobert_: visit the link I posted07:02
RebroadRiddell: I think I can, but I'm not sure if it's a full one07:03
Chambers`how do i install rpm's again?  I'm trying to install the mpio project off of sourceforge07:03
teebonesrobert: you need to write the script first..07:03
icemananyone know a good place to find screen shots of kde desktops ,,07:03
tiglionabbitchambers`: you could use alien to convert them to debs07:03
robert_ok07:03
Dalkusrpm -ivh file.rpm  Chambers`  - I think07:03
tiglionabbiticeman: kde-look.org ?07:03
RebroadRiddell, my backtrace is only 11 lines long07:03
icemantigloinabbit looked there ... looking for other locations07:04
naliothiceman: www.deviantart.com07:04
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Chambers`thanks guys07:04
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Chambers`i'm wondering if this will work cause it says it needs to patch the kernel :(07:04
icemannalioth these installable ?07:04
DalkusIsn't there a .deb file you can use?07:05
kvidellhey, so this is cool07:05
kvidellI dropped down to TTY1 and ran aptitude07:05
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kvidelland for whatever reason it decided to be angsty and crash07:05
RebroadRiddell, what do I need to do to get a full backtrace of k3b please?07:05
kvidellso I killed aptitude, but it's still showing up07:05
kvidellhow do I flush a tty?07:05
Chambers`Dalkus, i don't see one on the page07:05
teebonesrebroad: dit you added "hdd=ide-scsi" to your grub.conf?07:05
tiglionabbitkvidell: control-L ?07:05
kvidellit's locked up completely, my only idea is to slay my user but I don't like that option.07:05
DalkusChambers`, try looking on google for the name of the software and '.deb' maybe you'll find one07:06
tiglionabbitslay user?07:06
Chambers`oh wait, i found some :)07:06
Chambers`yay :)07:06
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Rebroadteebones: I don't have a grub.conf file07:06
DalkusChambers`, dpkg -i filename.deb installs07:06
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trygvebwHi07:06
trygvebwHow can i find a list of the largest (in MB) packages installed?07:06
teebonesrebroad: ok.. lilo.conf then? ;)07:06
Chambers`and the command to install .deb is dpkg -i <name> correct?07:06
Chambers`odh..guess so, thanks again :)07:06
Dalkusyeah07:06
tiglionabbityes07:07
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tiglionabbitchambers: there's a manual07:07
Rebroadteebones: I'm using grub, not lilo. there's no mention of scsi in /boot/grub/menu.lst07:07
Chambers`slowly all these command are sinking in my head :)07:07
kvidelltiglionabbit: That didn't work :-\ And yea, slay my user. Apt-cache show slay07:07
teebonesrebroad: you need to add it manually07:07
thechitowncubsINDY 500 is underway07:07
thoreauputicRebroad: because 2.6.* kernels don't use scsi emulation by default07:07
thoreauputicteebones: no he doesn't07:07
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Rebroadteebones, thoreauputic: ah, ok.. where in menu.lst do I need to add it? and is it hdd or hdc?07:08
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tiglionabbitkvidell: when you do solve it, tell me what you did07:08
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thoreauputicyou don't add it07:08
naliothiceman: you didnt request installables, but devianart has both screenshots and desktop wallpaper07:08
thoreauputicRebroad: teebones is coming from a 2.4 kernel perspective, I think07:08
teeboneshehe.. true07:08
teebones;)07:08
difficulthi, how do i convert flac encoded audio files to ogg?07:08
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Rebroadthoreauputic, ah, so I can't fix it doing that then?07:09
tiglionabbitwhat's with all the file conversion questions?07:09
tiglionabbitI've never even heard of flac07:09
thoreauputicRebroad: it's unlikely to be the problem anyway07:09
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icemansorry. hoping to find a good set of themes ...07:09
naliothiceman: deviantart07:09
difficultflac is what sound recorder uses as default07:09
ompaulusb leads, the terminators on the non pc ends is there a standard?07:09
Rebroadthoreauputic, would you be able to advise on how I can create a useful backtrace please?07:09
thoreauputicRebroad: if you run `strace k3b ` you should get a lot of output07:10
teebonesi can learn from this.. yay07:10
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difficultok, how about how do you convert from one audio type to another ?07:10
Rebroadthoreauputic, I certainly got a lot of output07:10
^thehatsrule^get a program to convert it? :P07:10
teebonesdifficult: that's difficult :D07:11
difficult^thehatsrule^ : really? Thought I had to change the bit's manually!! I'm wondering what program ;)07:11
^thehatsrule^LOL! :P07:11
^thehatsrule^depends on what you want to convert to... etc.07:11
^thehatsrule^google is your friend!07:11
difficultcome on throw me a (tee)bone here07:12
teebonesif, and only if, you know how to search07:12
teebones;)07:12
thoreauputicdifficult: get sox07:12
teebonesdifficult: lol07:12
_kevincan some one tell me how ic an obtain ices2 version 2.0.1 since that version has alsa support07:12
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_kevini tried apt-get install ices2 but it installs version 2.0.007:12
thoreauputicsox converts most sound formats07:12
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Rebroadthoreauputic, I'll add the output of the strace to the bug I've raised (https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8887)07:12
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Fator_Dee_kevin: if there's not a new enough version on the repositories you have to compile it yourself or look ices' page for a deb07:13
_kevini founda  .deb07:14
_kevinwhat do i do with it07:14
Fator_Deefirst uninstall the old version07:14
difficultthor|away : does't have flac support :/07:14
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trygvebw_kevin, go into a console and type "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"07:14
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Fator_Dee_kevin: and I'm not sure if that .deb is compatible with ubuntu07:14
Fator_Dee_kevin: it might not be07:14
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tiglionabbitaren't all debs?07:15
limerI installed gnome-pim via synaptic, I don't know where it is to run it.  I did a locate07:15
Fator_Deetiglionabbit: nope07:15
teeboneshell no07:16
Rebroadthor|away, looks like https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8887 is being completely ignored anyway...07:16
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teebones(so i read)07:16
Fator_Deetiglionabbit: if they would be, why would they advice not to use debians repositories?07:16
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teebonesl8r07:16
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Rebroadteebones: I've raised a bug report for the k3b problem, but the bug isn't getting any attention. Would you have any suggestions for what I could do next please?07:17
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teeboneslet me think for a moment07:17
thor|awaydifficult: apt-cache show abcde07:17
Rebroadteebones, ok. thanks07:17
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cocaineanybody want to play a game? change your name to raDeon07:18
Fator_Dee:-\07:18
dabaSlonexactly07:18
stavrosgwhere should I put a coupe of system-wide vars to be set on startup ?07:19
Fator_Deetry to be funny in #debian07:19
RiddellRebroad: length doesn't matter, just what's there should be good07:19
RiddellRebroad: add the backtrace and the last few lines of text on command line to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888707:19
limerI installed gnome-pim via synaptic, I don't know where it is to run it.  I did a locate07:19
dabaSlonstavrosg you can put export VAR='value' into your /etc/bash.bashrc I am not sure that is what you want tho...07:20
RebroadRiddell: already have done07:20
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naapurilimer, try: sudo updatedb07:20
ogi_Hmm..Is breezy the next release?07:20
Fator_Deeogi_: yes07:20
KaiSVKwhat is ubuntu it is Live distribution ?07:20
trygvebwKaiSVK, no07:20
dabaSlonlimer not only that, try also just runnign the name of the program in a terminal07:21
limernaapuri: I did.  I can find it via locate.  but it isn't in any "bin" locations07:21
trygvebwKaiSVK, it's a standard desktop distro :)07:21
Fator_Deetrygvebw: no, but it has a live-cd07:21
limerdabaSlon: I did that also07:21
Fator_Deegah, KaiSVK I meant07:21
trygvebwFator_Dee, yeah07:21
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naapurilimer, also try dpkg -L gnome-pim07:21
teebonesRebroad: it seems to be related to the kernel version used07:21
icemanwho can help me install the java plgin ..07:21
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Rebroadteebones: how can you tell?07:22
Fator_Deeiceman: is there a problem?07:22
teeboneson their site: Do not use Kernel 2.6.807:22
icemanhow to open a bin file ..07:22
RiddellRebroad: thanks :)07:22
tiglionabbiticeman: read the restricted formats faq07:22
Rebroadteebones, I'm using 2.6.1007:23
teebonesok..07:23
Chambers`well i'm screwed, i didn't find a debian package of mpio :(  Just the source :(07:23
teebonesthan it should be fine07:23
teebones;)07:23
Fator_Deeiceman: I thought one can install java-plugin from repositories? have you tried that already?07:23
teeboneshmm.....07:23
teebonesthinking07:23
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icemanno .. it just aptitude install java ?07:23
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Fator_Deeiceman: oh, sorry, I had a brainfart07:23
Fator_Deeiceman: you can make a .deb from the bin file with java-package07:24
cocainechange your name to radeon07:24
dabaSlonno...07:24
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limernaapuri: this is odd.  dpkg -L shows /usr/share/  but I can't see it with ls -la07:25
Fator_Deeiceman: isntall java-package from the repos and use it to make a .deb from the .bin, then install the .deb with sudo dpkg -i debfile-deb07:25
KaiSVKFator_Dee: is there any page ? cause www.ubuntulinux.org did nothing07:25
icemanfator_dee downloaded both packages from web ... one is a rpm.bin oth a bin ... now how to install07:25
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icemank07:25
RebroadChambers`, can you alien the rpm version of mpio?07:25
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dabaSloniceman ubuntuguide.org has a walkthru07:26
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Fator_DeeKaiSVK: page for what?07:26
teebonesRebroad: clueless atm07:26
teebonessry07:26
teebones:S07:26
dabaSloniceman also, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java has some too.07:26
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Rebroadteebones, I'll have to write it on MS XP i guess07:26
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Echelon-Hwhen I open the package manager07:26
Echelon-HI dont have to install everything right?07:27
Rebroadthank goodness for Microsoft Windows :)07:27
icemanfreezing systems ...07:27
dabaSloneverything, yeah.07:27
teebonesRebroad: SHAME ON YOU!07:27
teebones:)07:27
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dabaSlonsynaptic package manager, Echelon-H ?07:27
Echelon-HdabaSlon, ues07:27
Chambers`whelp i'm booting back into windows, thanks for all the help guys07:27
dabaSlonEchelon-H well, yeah, you dont have to install all, just rtight click on the ones you want to isntall07:28
naapurilimer, try removing and re-installing the package?07:28
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dabaSlonChambers` see ya07:28
limernaapuri: think I may have to.  thx07:28
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Chambers`hopefully i can find a .deb of mpio otherwise that's the only thing holding me back :/07:28
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dabaSlonwhats mpio?07:28
dabaSlonI guess Ill never find out( I know already)07:28
Enkidudoes /meda/cdrom0 point to /dev/cdrom0? because i dont see the link07:29
cocaineEnkidu, ideally.07:29
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teebonesRebroad: never trust an OS you don't have the sources for ;-)07:29
Echelon-Hweird.07:29
Echelon-HI am doing reload in the ubuntu update manager and I see it's downloading stuff for the list and then it says up to date07:29
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Enkiducocain, is there some way to view the link? because i can see that /dev/cdrom0 points to hdc, and that /media/cdrom points to /media/cdrom0 and that will access the cd but i cant see the link07:30
teebonesEchelon-H, ehm.. isn't that the purpose of UPDATING? ;-)07:30
no0tichow can I discover if my sound card has a MIDI synth?07:30
limernaapuri: I see what happened.  package name is gnome-pim but it's really both gnomecal and gnomecard07:30
Davey|Ubuntuis it possible to get Evolutions Engage running under Gnome 2.10?07:30
tiglionabbitenkidu: ls -l07:30
Echelon-Hteebones, the thing is, it seems like there are updates, but then the list is empty07:30
limerall I want is a good PIM :P07:30
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Echelon-Hit's downloading stuff for the list, then shows nothing.07:31
teebonesEchelon-H, ok, that's weird indeed07:31
Echelon-Hteebones, told you07:31
Echelon-Hteebones, reset?07:31
tiglionabbitwhy does it seem like there are updates?07:31
teebonesEchelon-H, perhaps07:31
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Enkidutiglionabbit i tried that; in /media it just shows it as a file, on /meda/cdrom0 it shows the contents of the CD thats in the drive07:32
psycosehi i've got little trooble i admin an ubuntu remotly and a change a filer permission .. now sudo is locked... (i'can talk to a local user on it) any tips ? thanks07:32
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Fator_Deepsycose: what did you do exactly07:32
teebonesjidijidiyadayada07:32
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psycosei add +w to edit the /etc/sudoers files07:33
icemancrud ... stupid plugins ..07:33
Fator_Deepsycose: ?!07:33
deliretoxicfume: if i could see your config files and logs i would be able to help you.07:33
icemanchmod a+x jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin tried that not working .07:33
daba_sckpsycose: Ive heard you have to safe mode boot, and then add yourself to sudoers again07:33
toxicfumedelire: i realyl don't know how to send them to you :|07:33
Fator_Deepsycose: you edit the sudoers with visudo07:33
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zenroxiceman,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for java install07:34
tiglionabbituse restrictedformats07:34
psycoseFator_Dee: ?, it's a tips or a question ?07:34
daba_sckiceman: this may be helpful: http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre .07:34
Fator_Deeiceman: did you write the name correctly07:34
teebonessomehow the ubuntuguide has strange recommendations07:34
tiglionabbitubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats  this one is fine07:34
teebones(like backports)07:34
Fator_Deepsycose: I don't know what to do, I just know that you did something that you shouldn't have done :-|07:35
daba_sckteebones: the java is fine.07:35
teebonesok07:35
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Fator_Deepsycose: if you can't sudo, there's not much you can do but to boot it from a live-cd to do the necessary changes07:35
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teebones-afkbrb07:36
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psycoseyes but the people which have local acces is like my grandmother ;-)07:36
Echelon-Hhow can I change the default nick in xchat?07:36
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daba_sckpsycose, create a script file for them to run.07:36
streunertroll07:36
daba_scksend it to them in email.07:36
Fator_Deepsycose: well, life is tough :-| the best bet would be to wait that someone more knowledgeable would come to help07:37
streunerbob2: go and fuck yourself :-)07:37
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daba_sckhave them login safe mode as root, and run the script.07:37
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Echelon-Hk thats f**ing weird, I see the ubuntu update is downloading updates but then it says up to date.07:37
daba_sckstreuner: whats your prob?07:37
Echelon-Hand I mean downloading updates to the list.07:37
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teebones-afkEchelon-H, to change nickname: /nick <newnickname>07:37
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daba_sck:)07:37
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psycosedaba_sck ok thanks ...07:37
goldfishEchelon-H: use irssi !07:37
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goldfishstreuner: bye :)07:38
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Echelon-Hteebones-afk, and to make it the default oen?07:38
tiglionabbitechelon: when you hit reload, it downloads the package LISTS.  Not actual packages07:38
Echelon-H*one07:38
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Echelon-Hgoldfish, huh?07:38
daba_sckbob2: how come, you werent even here?07:38
daba_sckthe other sec..07:38
goldfishEchelon-H: xchat sucks :)07:38
daba_sckyou remotely keep an eye on us?07:38
bob2daba_sck: he was being abusive in another channel, so I +q'd him there07:38
Daylighthateranybody who want's to help me furter with my bootsplash instalation, r0d went away and told me I could ask here07:38
bob2daba_sck: I do try to keep an eye on here...07:38
konkorbolhey...i want to use external crt monitor with my toshiba laptop...what should i do?07:38
daba_sckah, ok, I get it.07:38
daba_sck:)07:38
Echelon-Htiglionabbit, but then I dont see the list and it says system is uptodate although I cann see it's download a list of updates.07:38
Echelon-Hgoldfish, you're wrong :)07:39
zenroxxchat rocks07:39
goldfishhehe07:39
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zenroxif used proplery07:39
goldfishtry irssi and you wont go back !07:39
tiglionabbitechelon-h: I don't know what you're talking about...07:39
teebones-afkEchelon-H, what exactly do you mean with (to make it the default oen)07:39
teebones-afk?07:39
bob2konkorbol: find out if it's supported at all, for a start.  www.x.org should have a details.07:39
daba_sckbob2: but that way, you only ban his nick, right?07:39
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konkorbolok bob2 thank you07:40
tiglionabbithe wont like irssi unless he knows how to use it.  http://f0rked.com/core/irssi07:40
Echelon-Hteebones-afk, when i enter xchat my nick is echelon, i always need to change it to echelon-h. how can i make echelon-h the default name?07:40
daba_sckbob2: or his user on his comp?07:40
skoophi everyone07:40
bob2daba_sck: yes, he can easily get around if he wants to, but I'm hoping he'll just calm down07:40
synd-hey guys, how sharing my wireless (incoming) connection thru my NIC card (outgoing) ?07:40
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synd-hey guys, how can i share my wireless (incoming) connection thru my NIC card (outgoing) ?07:40
daba_sckbob2: where do you chill out? #debian?07:40
daba_sckchill out:)07:40
skoopI'm having a slight problem with gnome right after upgrading from warty to hoary07:40
bob2daba_sck: #debian is even more stressful than here07:40
teebones-afkEchelon-H, go to X-chat-> server-list and change your nick07:40
bob2I chill out at the pub ;)07:40
synd-skoop,  most like to do a clean install when going from warty to hoary07:41
daba_scksometimes I read the #debian...07:41
Davey|Ubuntudoes anyone know someway to look at iTunes shares my roomies have on the network?07:41
goldfishtiglionabbit: nice guide. i must give it to my friends to try make them use it :)07:41
synd-Davey|Ubuntu, yes07:41
Echelon-Hteebones-afk, thanks07:41
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synd-Davey|Ubuntu, but i belive its a bit complicated07:41
skoopsynd-: a clean install? can I do that without losing all my data and installed apps then?07:41
teebonesEchelon-H, no prob07:41
synd-skoop, i dont believe so.07:41
skoopand basically, my problem is, or seems, small07:41
Echelon-Harrg but the problems with updates is very wierd.07:41
skoopI've got everything working again, but for some reason the menu has completely disappeared07:42
synd-ah, what is the problem skoop07:42
Fator_Deeskoop: installed apps will go, data depends on how you have partitioned your hd07:42
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skoopthere is a panel at the bottom of the screen which lists open apps, but there's no menu anymore07:42
synd-hey guys, how can i share my wireless (incoming) connection thru my NIC card (outgoing) ?07:42
skoopright-clicking on the panel doesn't do anything07:42
daba_sckskoop: right click the panel, add to panel, add the menu?07:42
daba_sckahy07:42
skoopheh07:42
skoopthats what I tried already :-D07:42
Fator_Deeskoop: kill the menu?07:42
bob2synd-: no need to ask more than once07:42
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daba_sckkillall gnome-panel?07:42
skoopso I wont have a panel at all anymore?07:43
Fator_Deeit should come back to life automagically after07:43
synd-bob2, mm07:43
daba_sckwell, you can restart it.07:43
novaflarehmm hos does one get the gtk xirssi irc client?07:43
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bob2synd-: install the ipmasq package07:43
synd-skoop, no, it restarts it07:43
synd-bob2, via apt?07:43
skoopok, I restarted it, still no right-click07:43
goldfishnovaflare: irssi-text !07:43
novaflarenot on my comp irc is always gui heh07:43
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skoopis there a config file I can edit?07:44
bob2synd-: yes07:44
Echelon-Hwhat's the command to run the ubuntu update manager from the terminal?07:44
geetergodanyone know how i can get the sound to work in America's Army?07:44
bob2Echelon-H: update-manager...07:44
^thehatsrule^apt-get ?07:44
tiglionabbitsudo apt-get upgrade07:44
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Fator_Deenovaflare: why do you need a gui to an application that shows nothing else but text ;-)07:44
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skoopapt-get or synaptic?07:44
teebonesgeetergod, yes use alsa snd07:44
synd-bob2, ok, its installed.07:44
novaflareuh cause im on 3 irc networks on like 12 chans07:44
geetergodalsa snd?07:44
Fator_Deenovaflare: um, so?07:44
Echelon-HOkay that's weird.07:44
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tiglionabbitnovaflare: read the guide, you can do that with irssi07:45
Echelon-Hcan anyone go into the package manager and tell me if he see's some updates?07:45
bob2hah, 12 isnt very many07:45
skoopis there a config file I can edit to load the menu in gnome-panel?07:45
teebonesgeetergod, yes.. there are several sound systems on linux.. and ALSA is one of them07:45
daba_sckEchelon-H: it would be very specific to how your computer is configured.07:45
daba_sckwhat are you trying to do?07:45
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Echelon-HI am trying to do reload, then it updates the list, "downloading package information" and then just nothing.07:45
icemanfactor_dee thanks link walk right through ... cut and past and installed and working ... thatnk you ..07:45
daba_sckskoop: did you try killall gnome-panel?07:45
emanuelezhello... i'm running gentoo now but i'd like to switch to ubuntu. i'm thinking about  trying to crate a new partition on my HD and my the /home dir over there... would that make the switch easier?07:45
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tiglionabbitechelon-h: that's what it's supposed to do07:46
skoopdaba_sck: yup, tried it ... still no right-click response07:46
synd-bob2, ?07:46
daba_sckwhen you hit reload, that means it just reloads the package list, taht does not install anything.07:46
bob2synd-: what?07:46
Echelon-Hwhatever...07:46
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Echelon-Him off to some other stuff now.. ttyl.07:46
tiglionabbitit gets the list of packages, okay?07:46
novaflarehush now or ill do somethign realy vulgar and run mirc .......07:46
psycosedaba_sck could i use init to go to a special run level or should i restart the system ? thanks07:46
novaflare:)07:46
bob2emanuelez: depends if you have the same versions of things on gentoo as in ubuntu07:46
synd-bob2, what shall i do after i install the ipmasq ?07:46
geetergodi get this error in terminal for armyops07:46
geetergodgeetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ armyops07:46
geetergodopen /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy07:46
daba_sckpsycose: I have no clue, ask bob.07:46
bob2synd-: did you configure it as it was installed?07:46
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InkRoseSorry to butt in like this, but I'm having trouble installing a current java. and yes, I am a noob.07:47
tiglionabbitgeetergod: you probably need to configure esd like in the restricted formats faq I keep referring people to07:47
skoopdaba_sck: which is why I'm looking for a gnome-panel config file :)07:47
tiglionabbitgeetergod: also, you can't have two 3rd party apps that produce sound open at the same time07:47
InkRoseI have tried the forums and other help sources07:47
synd-bob2, no, i just installed it. i tried sudo ipmasq, but im not sure what it did.07:47
bob2best to not use words like "noob"07:47
geetergodit was working before i restarted the computer07:47
bob2synd-: it's already running.07:47
InkRosebut I guess I'm too windows-minded still07:47
bob2synd-: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq"07:48
psycosebob; well i've add +w to /etc/sudoers, i did not now about visudo yet ;-(, then sudo command is lock... i'm try to unlock it and set the /etc/sudoers to -w any tips ? thanks07:48
emanuelezbob2, it's not really about programs... i'm not using fancy preferences... i'm only interested in easy distro switching...07:48
teebonesgeetergod, what have you changed then, after it worked07:48
geetergodnothing07:48
teeboneshmm07:48
geetergodi just restarted the computer07:48
amonkeyis there a way to make things not appear on the gnome panels? like xmms or wine-systray.07:48
bob2emanuelez: then make a new /home and mount your old one somewhere else07:48
tiglionabbitgeetergod: you might have it set to spawn esd07:48
bob2emanuelez: things like gnome get quite upset if you switch versions on it07:48
synd-bob2, ok. "Should PPP connection recompute the firewall?" yes/no ?07:48
daba_sckInkRose: I hate to do this, but, please follow http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre07:49
tiglionabbittry sudo killall esd and run the game again07:49
bob2amonkey: I imagine devilspie can do that07:49
thoreauputicInkRose: have you read http://ubuntuguide.org ? There's a section that walks you through installing java07:49
amonkeybob2, package?07:49
geetergodwhats esd?07:49
bob2amonkey: yes07:49
tiglionabbitdaba_sck: why do people always refer that over the restrictedformats one on ubuntu's wiki?07:49
daba_sckthe enlightened sound demon07:49
daba_scktiglionabbit: I dont always...07:49
synd-daemon, daba_sck07:49
synd-:p07:49
psycosebob2,  well i've add +w to /etc/sudoers, i did not now about visudo yet ;-(, then sudo command is locked... i'm try to unlock it and set the /etc/sudoers to -w any tips ? thanks07:49
daba_sckoh, right:)07:49
bob2psycose: reboot, keep hitting escape until you get to the grub menu, then choose "recovery" or "restore" or whatever the boot option is, then you'll get a root shell07:49
Daylighthateranybody who want's to help me furter with my bootsplash instalation, r0d went away and told me I could ask here07:50
bob2psycose: then -w /etc/sudoers, and don't do it again07:50
thoreauputictiglionabbit: easier to remember URL I guess07:50
emanuelezbob2: ok... thx... so... what's the best tool to create a new partition on my HD?07:50
InkRosethoreau, yes, I have... but apparently I've been reading an old version? rev. 3.4 iirc07:50
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bob2emanuelez: the ubuntu installer07:50
amonkeybob2, thanks07:50
psycosewaou excellent thanks bob2 :-)07:50
bob2emanuelez: assuming you have free space07:50
tiglionabbithttp://ubuntulinux.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:50
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bob2synd-: do you want to do NAT or not?07:50
tiglionabbitit's just ubuntulinux wiki restrictedformats07:50
emanuelezbob2, i do07:50
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daba_scktiglionabbit: there is a wiki/java too07:50
thoreauputicInkRose: look at the link tiglionabbit posted07:51
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emanuelezbut i need to create a new home before i install ubuntu...07:51
skoopnobody know where gnome-panel keeps it's configuration files?07:51
emanuelezbob2, parted?07:51
synd-bob2, all i want to do is be able to share my internet with another desktop. i need to route the wireless net from the wireless card to the internal NIC07:51
tiglionabbitoh whoops07:51
tiglionabbitmaybe that's not where I got the info for java07:51
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bob2emanuelez: no, the ubuntu installer includes a partitioner07:51
bob2skoop: ~/.gnome2/07:51
daba_sckhttp://ubuntulinux.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats has a portion on Java, http://ubuntulinux.com/wiki/Java is what it links to.07:52
bob2skoop: i really doubt you can usefully edit them without gconf-editor, tho07:52
tiglionabbitI actually got it through a package on the multiverse somewhere07:52
amonkeybob2, devilspie won't run, .devilspie.xml does not exist.07:52
InkRosethoreau, I'm there07:52
skoopok, I've just started gconf-editor07:52
bob2amonkey: ok!07:52
imaekHow do I check if I have "modules" loaded?07:52
tiglionabbitah yes, that's the one I got it from, daba07:52
emanuelezbob2, ok, but i wanna move my files to the new partition first07:52
imaekLike ieee1394 or ohci139407:52
InkRoseDLing it now07:53
daba_scktiglionabbit: yes:)07:53
bob2emanuelez: ok07:53
bob2imaek: lsmod07:53
tiglionabbit=307:53
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InkRoseI think I'll manage with that instruction set07:53
emanuelezbob2, not config files... thinkgs like documents, emails and so on07:53
amonkeybob2, oh i get it, nm.07:53
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skoopok, gconf-editor does list 'panel' under apps, it doesn't list a 'menu' in 'applets'. there is a 'menu_bar' entry under 'objects' though ...07:53
bob2synd-: this is not trivial if you don't know about networking07:54
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dougskemanuelez, you could look into parted command line, it's gotten quite friendly lately or qtparted or gparted even friendlier07:54
imaekbob2: How can I load the scsi disk module 'sd_mod'?07:54
synd-bob2, eh? i do know about networking07:54
bob2synd-: and it's 4am, so I don't have time to walk you through it07:54
tiglionabbitqtparted is quite nice.  You should grab it and try it out07:54
synd-bob2, ok.07:54
emanuelezdougsk, thx... i'll take a look :)07:54
skoopnow is there a way to add that menu object to the panel?07:54
synd-bob2, but it can be done, correct?07:55
tiglionabbitskoop: right-click it and select add07:55
bob2synd-: oh, ok.  install a dhcp server on the desktop, and get it to listen on the wireless nic.  setup ip forwarding (echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward), and then setup trivial NAT on it (www.iptables.org, it's a 3 line shell script)07:55
bob2synd-: sure07:55
bob2synd-: dhcprelay might even work07:55
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skooptiglionabbit: nope, thats the problem. it's not working. I'm trying to use gconf-editor right now to add it to the menu07:55
cainehmm07:55
bob2anyway, good luck07:55
skooptiglionabbit: I can't directly add it by right-clicking the panel, that gives no response07:55
synd-jeeze07:56
drspinAre there any known issues with Hoary and Ram usage climbing while the CPU just sits there??07:56
synd-osx made internet sharing easy :p07:56
skoopso did winXP ;)07:56
Davey|Ubuntuis there any graphical way to map mouse buttons to stuff?07:56
synd-boo winxp07:56
teebonesok.. gotta leave now.. speak you ubunty people soon07:56
teebones;)07:56
daba_sckyup07:56
thoreauputicdrspin: more likely to be a particular app07:56
drspinyeah but WinXP made using the internet difficult and expensive (firewall virusscan spyware)07:57
skoopre winXP/osx: my point is... not a good reason to start using it if it's only making internet sharing easier ;)07:57
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tiglionabbitskoop - o sorry, didn't notice your first message there07:57
skoopoh and OSX doesn't make using the Internet expensive? ;)07:57
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imaekHow can I load the scsi disk module 'sd_mod'?07:57
drspinthoreauputic: any idea which app it might be?? or at least give me an idea how to find out?07:57
daba_sckskoop: screenshot?07:57
Anubisbzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out.  Possible reason follows.07:57
Anubisbzip2: Operation not permitted07:57
Anubis        Input file = lyric.tar.gz, output file = lyric.tar.gz.bz207:57
Anubisbzip2: Deleting output file lyric.tar.gz.bz2, if it exists.07:57
skoopdaba_sck: just a min, brb07:57
bob2imaek: same way you load any module, sudo modprobe blah07:57
Anubiswhy is it deleting the finished product?!?07:57
thoreauputicdrspin: vmstat, top, ps aux ...07:57
bob2Anubis: your disk is broken, start backing up07:57
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lonewolffima ek: sudo  modprobe sd_mod07:57
bob2Anubis: the cable is at least loose/damaged07:58
Anubisbob2, bullshit07:58
synd-skoop, no.. alone its not a good reason to start using OS X. but along with other things, it may be. (i use OSX anyways)07:58
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bob2Anubis: yes, I'm lying to you, you caught me07:59
Davey|UbuntuI find it hard to believe their isn't a GUI for configuring extra mouse buttons07:59
daba_sckhaha07:59
daba_sckbob2: :)07:59
bob2Davey|Ubuntu: very very few people actually care about more than 307:59
Anubiswhen did we get trolls here?07:59
bob2Davey|Ubuntu: you could be the person to write it :)07:59
cainei need help07:59
bob2Anubis: dude, i/o error = kernel had trouble writing to the disk07:59
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bob2Anubis: read dmesg and see what the problem was07:59
lonewolffcain: whats up07:59
tiglionabbittell us the problem, caine08:00
ShuddertrixAnubis: You asked a stupid question..08:00
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daba_sckAnubis: bob2 is an op here, and at #debian... maybe that explains it a little08:00
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AnubisShuddertrix, I did?08:00
thoreauputicAnubis: bob2 has a clue or two: i suggest you listen08:00
bob2daba_sck: that seems kinda tangental08:00
Anubismy disk is broken08:00
skoopok, screenshot: http://pix.stefankoopmanschap.com/various/screenshot08:00
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Anubishow vague can that be?08:00
Shuddertrix< Anubis> why is it deleting the finished product?!?08:00
marjorie-tIs it possible to start a program as a normall user in a start up script like bootmisc?08:00
daba_sckbob2: well, I now know why you ahve the attitude:)08:00
bob2Anubis: you want me to guess what physical problem your disk is having?08:00
daba_sckcause you hang at #debian all the time:_p08:00
daba_sck:-p08:00
AnubisShuddertrix, show me the "stupidity' in that question?08:00
bob2Anubis: when I say broken, I mean "physically screwed up".08:01
g14marjorie-t: Yes, using sudo you can switch to users other than root08:01
Anubisare'nt all these questions the result of some form of ignorance?08:01
bob2Anubis: stop talking and read dmesg08:01
delireskoop: what's happened to your background?08:01
marjorie-tsweet thx08:01
cocainewhat's good08:01
skoopdelire: good question, the old background hasn't come back after the upgrade to hoary08:01
ShuddertrixAnubis: A lot like you didn't read the error message. Just go check dmesg now :P08:01
thoreauputicdaba_sck: give him a break, dude - he helps people here all the time08:01
Anubisif this aint the place for "stupid" questions then when?08:01
tiglionabbitanubis: after it's printed a series of error messages, do you expect it to give you the 'finished product' after it's clearly said it's "bailing out" ?08:01
delireskoop: oh well, a minor issue08:01
cocainehoary hedgehog08:01
cocainehaha08:01
bob2Anubis: this conversation is getting silly, just read dmesg and see what the kernel is saying about the disk08:01
daba_sckI give him all the breaks he needs:) I just speak, tho, as well.08:01
tiglionabbitthat's like expecting a compiler to compile even with errors in your code08:01
skoopdelire: yeah, setting the background is not the biggest problem right now ;)08:01
bob2Anubis: presumably you believe it won't lie to you ;-)08:01
synd-cocaine, ?08:02
skoopdelire: once the menu is back, that is ;)08:02
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Anubisso i get riddles and to assume this is good advice?08:02
delirecocaine: surely better than "horny hedgehog".08:02
g14bob2: It's a conspiricy :)08:02
bob2Anubis: if you don't understand someone's answer, say so08:02
daba_sckI respect you, and him, :) thoreauputic.08:02
bob2Anubis: do you know how to read the output of dmesg?08:02
cocainewhat does hoary mean08:02
ShuddertrixAnubis: Type 'dmseg' in your favorite terminal and read it. Do it already, you're getting real help this time.08:02
daba_sckdict hoary08:02
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trygvebwcocaine, nothing special :)08:02
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skoopdaba_sck: http://pix.stefankoopmanschap.com/various/screenshot ;)08:02
HappyFoolancient, old, more-or-less08:02
daba_sckskoop: right clicking on both panels does nothing?08:03
tiglionabbithttp://webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoary&x=0&y=008:03
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cocaineso old as to aspire veneration haha08:03
HappyFoolalso, it's alliterative with hedgehog08:03
bob2inspire, yeah08:03
skoopdaba_sck: correct, both give no response to a right click. unless I click one of the open windows08:03
drspinman vmstat ...r The number of process waiting for run-time... what does that mean?08:03
AnubisShuddertrix, you going to tell me what I'm looking for?08:03
drspin"waiting for runtime"?08:03
Anubisor all of it is a clue?08:03
daba_sckcan you reinstall your panel?08:03
Davey|Ubuntuhow does one say hoary? Whorey? like, a little bit of a whore? :)08:03
bob2Anubis: please stop with the silly attidue08:03
dbrodieAnybody know where I can find ubuntu (-compatible) packages for the python bindings for cairo?08:04
skoopdaba_sck: let me try that08:04
bob2Anubis: look at the bottom.  if you don't understand it, paste sections of it to #flood.08:04
tiglionabbitdavey: yes08:04
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tiglionabbitthey make a joke about it in Romeo and Juliet I believe08:04
daba_sckhe chuckled:)08:04
Davey|UbuntuI'm surprised there is no GUI to map mouse buttons yet, I wish I had the know-how to write one, I would.08:04
drspin... who chuckles??08:04
drspin:)08:04
limerI could swear Anubis and kestas are one in the same08:04
bob2Davey|Ubuntu: map them to what?08:04
daba_sckbob2: cant he use Xorg -configure to set up mouse buttons?08:05
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kentWhen I add the nerim repositories it complains about GPG signatures.  How can i avoid this? It sais something about public key..08:06
bob2Davey|Ubuntu: if you mean, just the ordering, that can be done, but if you mean like "map this button to backwards in firefox", it can't really be done08:06
Davey|Ubuntubob2: I have almost all my mouse buttons working now (MX700) just the two extra scrolling ones don't, nor the application selector08:06
desrtkent; there's something about this on the wiki08:06
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InkRosethanks, throeau and tiglio, got it working now. =)08:06
Davey|UbuntuI have my thumb buttons doing back/forward in FF :)08:06
desrtkent; you need to apt-key add the right signatures08:06
daba_sckkent: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/APTAuthenticationHowTo08:06
daba_sckI typed that out.08:06
Davey|Ubuntuand I have left/right/middle click, and scroll wheel working08:07
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bob2Davey|Ubuntu: scrolling is application-specific, unfortunately08:07
lonewolffi used to have forward/back working but then an update messed it up :(08:07
bob2well, toolkit-specific08:07
skoopdaba_sck: ok, reinstalled gnome-panel still the same situation.08:07
Davey|Ubuntuhttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/print.php?articleid=46 <--- awesome setup guide, just ignore step 1 in hoary :)08:07
skoopdaba_sck: but I've been looking, and it looks like it is not getting the config data from the right location08:07
drspinis the backport server offline??08:07
daba_sckkent, its not easy, yho... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary08:08
drspinskoop what is your dilemma?08:08
daba_sckdrspin: use a mirror.08:08
skoopin ~/.gconf/apps/panel/profiles/default/ there's a lot of configuration info08:08
skoopdrspin: gnome-panel gone awry after upgrade from warty to hoary08:08
daba_sckdrspin: his panel looks like this: http://pix.stefankoopmanschap.com/various/screenshot and he cant right click to add to it.08:08
dougskdaba_sck, I thought backports were pretty much hosted on ubuntuforums?08:08
skoopdrspin: no response to right click, menu is completely gone08:08
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daba_sckyes, they are, I heard someone managed to access them through some mirror.08:09
daba_sck:)08:09
dougskdaba_sck, ntk, thanks08:09
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tiglionabbitfor me, my touchpad worked automatically, with all 4 scroll buttons on it, left and right, and even chordmiddle08:09
marjorie-tyo yo yo08:09
tiglionabbitand the scrolling side thing08:10
psycosethanks you guys08:10
drspinskoop -- probably silly suggestion but have you tried hosing your gconf and .Gnome dirs??08:10
drspinskoop -- I remember an issue like this where there was some lock file involved...08:10
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skoopdrspin: yeah, I've tried that earlier today. I can try it again just now to check if that solves something08:10
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daba_sckGNAM!08:11
cavediverHi guys. My VLC got removed all of a sudden and don't want to be installed again. Anyone have this problem? (Breezy)08:12
tiglionabbithey, can I set up my playstation controller as a 16 button mouse?08:12
thoreauputiccavediver: /topic08:12
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zenroxcavediver,  ya breezy is broken08:12
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bob2cavediver: if you're using breezy, you should know how to debug apt stuff, and to check the BTS08:12
daba_sckbob2: does breezy's gnome look the same as the hoary one so far?08:13
skoopdrspin: right, removed all .gnome and .gconf dirs and restarted gnome-panel ... still no difference08:13
cavediverWell I know it's broken. haven't seen any vlc issues though, i follow the forum closely08:13
bob2I don't think the themes have changed08:13
thenukedaba_sck: seems like so08:13
bob2cavediver: the lists would be a better source of information...08:13
daba_sckcause Hoary introduced the new places menu.08:13
cavediverWell ok.08:14
thenukedaba_sck: oops, I messed up hoary & warty =)08:14
bob2cavediver: but if vlc can't be installed, there should be a bug about it somewhere08:14
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daba_sckskoop: on that screenshot, tried unchecking locked?08:15
drspinskoop -- sudo init 1 | #remove gconf with configuration | reinstall gconf | init 2 |08:15
drspinskoop -- this takes your system to single user mode then back to multi-user mode08:15
Anubisbob2, sorry for misunderstanding your help08:15
bob2woah08:15
marjorie-tSorry about that  children temp comandeery kb08:15
bob2drspin: that's pretty drastic08:15
bob2Anubis: please don't assume the worst of people trying to help you08:15
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drspinbob2: drastic or not -- it might work --08:15
bob2drspin: no more than "pkill gconf" would08:15
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marjorie-tAm i being silly, when i sudo "user"  program i just get the syntax help from sudo and program runs as root08:16
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lozif anyone speak french ?08:16
bob2marjorie-t: I don't know what that character is between "user" and program, but that's not how sudo works08:16
cocaineoui08:16
bob2marjorie-t: read the manpage, specificall ythe -u option08:16
daba_sckman, you suck, drew...08:16
lozje suis newbie sur irc08:17
daba_sck#ubuntu-fr08:17
thoreauputicmarjorie-t: usually you just run `sudo <command>08:17
daba_sck /join #ubuntu-fr08:17
cocaineloz, ok08:17
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lozok je crois comprendre pour joindre un fil frenchie faire /join ...08:17
thoreauputicloz: Il y a des francais au canal #ubuntu-fr08:17
marjorie-tbob2: its a pipe....08:18
g14marjorie-t: sudo -u user command08:18
daba_sckthoreauputic: you are good at those lines, where do you get them? is there a list for languages somewhere?08:18
daba_sckthoreauputic: noone alive there, anyhow.08:18
thoreauputicdaba_sck: I grew up in Switzerland :)08:18
cocaineoui nous ne parlons pas franais08:18
marjorie-tahhh ok08:18
lozcomment le joindre ce canal ?08:18
g14marjorie-t: man sudo08:18
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cocaine/join #ubuntu-fr08:19
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lozok08:19
daba_scknoone there, tho.08:19
thenukedaba_sck: 57 ppl in there08:19
daba_sckI mean, noone was speaking earlier, it seems there is one guy, now, tho.08:20
thenukeif they dont speak at the moment, you have to speak english in here08:20
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daba_sckI spoke englsih tehre too, I dont know french:)08:20
shdwdrgn284how do you disable framebuffer on startup?08:21
daba_sck(13:20:29) gub: aheum mme ... (13:20:49) cocaine: english please ... (13:20:55) cocaine: anglais ... (13:20:57) daba_sck: ha ... (13:20:58) gub: non franais ... (13:21:06) cocaine: NON, ANGLAIS08:21
deliretoxicfume: if not put it in there. take out ati if you see it in there and try rebooting and starting x08:21
skoopdrspin: did as you asked, which removed a lot of packages, reinstalling gconf didnt really install back all those packages.08:22
skoopdrspin: I had to install gnome-panel back myself08:22
tiglionabbitwhere would I put an xinput command I want to always apply (on startup) ?08:22
skoopdrspin: but I'm still missing some stuff it seems. starting x now hangs on 'loading window manager'08:22
shdwdrgn284do you guys know how to disable framebuffer on startup?08:23
daba_sckyou disable it, while starting up...08:23
daba_sck:-p08:23
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daba_sckok, thats it.08:23
dougskskoop, maybe try installing ubuntu-desktop?08:23
toxicfumedelire: what do you mean? i don't get it08:23
rickardis there a nice linux command that can do this: remove all jpg files from a directory, including all its subdirectories?08:24
drspinskoop -- apt-get ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop08:24
skoopdougsk: oh that would be too easy :-D08:24
skooplet me try that ;)08:24
drspinskoop -- or something like that...08:24
dougskskoop, heh heh08:24
shdwdrgn284how though?08:24
shdwdrgn284HOW08:24
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daba_sckjust do it, as nike would say...or, as my mother would always say...I have no clue how to do it.08:25
dougskshdwdrgn284, there should be a line in your /boot/grub/menu.1st about your kernel at the end is a line called vga=791 or some such just remove it08:25
shdwdrgn284ok thanks08:26
thoreauputicshdwdrgn284:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure --plow xserver-xorg and say "no" to the framnebuffer question08:26
dougskshdwdrgn284, not the whole line just that lit bit vga=###08:26
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shdwdrgn284ok08:26
stimpiehow can I use a splash screen during startup with ubuntu?08:27
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shdwdrgn284thanks a lot08:27
g14rickard: find /whatever/directory -name *.jpg -exec rm -f {} \;08:27
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Amaranthstimpie: splashy08:27
delirestimpie: or bootsplash08:27
Amaranthstimpie: google should bring up something, otherwise searching the forums might08:27
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stimpieok but is it supported in the standard kernel or do I need to compile my own kernel?08:28
dr_willisHmm- whats the bluetooth tools for gnome anyway? trying to get some pics off my cellphone08:28
dr_willisI rembver seeing them under KDE> but not gnome.08:28
g14bootsplash is a real pain to set up if the distro's init scripts don't support it (ubuntu doesn't)08:28
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stimpieI used bootsplash with gentoo which wasnt too hard. But I switched to ubuntu because I don't wanna do all that stuff by hand08:29
drspinI must Say XFCE is lovely :) I much prefer it over metacity --08:30
skoopoh boy08:30
skoopyou won't believe it08:30
skoopwe're back at the old situation08:30
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r0dstimpie, yea im trying to setup my bootsplash pic right now...08:31
skoopno menu, no right-click response on the panel08:31
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thoreauputicskoop: does the same thing happen with a new/different user?08:32
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skoopthoreauputic: checking that now08:32
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skoopthoreauputic: yes, same thing also happens with a completely new user08:33
thoreauputicskoop: :(08:33
drspinskoop :(08:34
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skoopso it does seem to be a problem with hoary :(08:35
medkit_hi all again08:35
skoopor at least with my hoary ;)08:35
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skoopI upgraded from warty to hoary by changing the sources.list and doing apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade08:36
skoopthat should work, right?08:36
drspinthoreauputic: is there a way to remove every package in ubuntu-desktop without doing it individually?08:36
thoreauputicskoop: normally, yes, assuming you got it right08:36
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skoopthoreauputic: I followed the instructions on ... I believe ubuntuguide.org08:37
thoreauputicdrspin: deborphan/defoster maybe08:37
medkit_Howto mount IDE Harddisks attached to a PCI IDE Controller? Device is called HPT372A with 4 IDE channels.08:37
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thoreauputic*debfoster08:37
thoreauputicdrspin: why would you want to ?08:37
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daba_sckjust remove the panel...08:38
daba_sckif you are gonna remove...08:38
thoreauputicskoop: do you/ did you have any 3rd party repos like nerim/marillat?08:38
skoopbackports08:38
skoopis the only one08:38
thoreauputicskoop: oh dear - that might be the trouble right there08:38
skoopoooh...08:38
skoopreally?08:39
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skoopnever had trouble with backports when using warty actually ;)08:39
thoreauputicskoop: I don't trust backports, and they can cause conflicts08:39
HappyFoolmedkit_: take a look in /proc/ide (ls /proc/ide) -- it has info on the ide channels etc that have been detected08:39
skoopoutcomment backports and reinstall gconf again?08:39
thoreauputicskoop: worth a shot08:39
drspinskoop: killall -HUP gnome-panel08:39
skoopdrspin: to do what? restarting the panel is something we've done before on several occasions now...08:40
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skooplet me try to re-install gconf without backports08:40
drspinskoop: just googling a bit and thought I'd give it a go...08:41
thoreauputicskoop: you have ubuntu-desktop instaled, right?08:41
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skoopthoreauputic: yes, I have that one08:41
daba_sckskoop: um, when upgrading, if you have3 backports, my complete X system got borked...08:41
jeff25where are my kde menus and gnone menu's installed to?08:41
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thoreauputicskoop: frankly,, I'd steer clear of backports08:42
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skoopbackports has already been removed from my sources.list ;)08:42
skoopwith warty, backports was the only way of getting a firefox 1.0 afaik08:42
christosdoes beep media player support mp3?08:42
drspinchristos: yes08:43
medkit_HappyFool, possibly ide0 and ide1?08:43
thoreauputicskoop: hmm - I installed the moz binary of firefox at the time (in my home dir)08:43
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christosi installed beep media player through synaptic - when i try to play mp3s it freezes08:44
vulcanoobonsoir  tous08:44
HappyFoolmedkit_: i would guess ide2 and greater, assuming you have two onboard IDE channels08:44
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thoreauputicchristos: set the output to esound08:44
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christosthanx it works08:45
thoreauputicchristos: :)08:45
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delirewhat is the package name given to the kernel-sources in ubuntu? on debian it's kernel-source-$(uname -r). is there an ubuntu specific source package for the 2.6.10 kernels?08:46
medkit_HappyFool, 2 onboard ide channels, these are ide0 and ide1. So the controller channels are not listed in /proc/ide08:46
christosi have another problem  - i can't here my speakers08:46
delire<-- debian08:46
thoreauputicdelire: linux-source08:46
annahow can i debootstrap breezy from hoary?08:46
delireahah. cheers08:46
christosheadphones work but the max volume is low08:46
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HappyFoolmedkit_: is it possible that they will look like scsi drives ? see e.g., http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/1719.html08:47
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pixelmonkeydoes anyone here know if you can force QT applications to use your KDE theme in any easy way... I run Gnome normally, but like my KDE apps to use Plastik and would like my only QT, non-KDE app (Skype) to use Plastik too08:47
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thoreauputicchristos: run alsamixer in a terminal, check for muted channels08:47
pixelmonkeyI tried qtconfig but it doesn't list my KDE styles there08:48
thoreauputicchristos: mm (m to change)08:48
medkit_HappyFool, yes, under windows the controller is always treated as scsi controller.08:48
HappyFoolmedkit_: try 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' -- does it list anything08:48
annahow can i debootstrap breezy from hoary?08:48
delirethoreauputic: do you need a special repository to do aquire the linux kernel sources? helping someone out here..08:48
thoreauputicanna: don't. See /topic08:48
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thoreauputicdelire: should be in main I think08:49
delirethoreauputic: ok cheers08:49
christosthanx two out of two08:49
annaWell, thoreauputic, I may still want to work on Breezy chroot?08:49
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thoreauputicanna: sure, up to you : if you enjoy pain, go ahead ;D08:50
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medkit_HappyFool, yes, an sda harddisk wich is attached to the onboard SATA Controller. This is a Sil3112. Nohing else.08:50
thoreauputicdelire: the src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list must be uncommented of course08:50
thoreauputicchristos: you have speaker sound then?08:51
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flodinea guy my gnome wont come up i need help08:51
nobert_nothing08:51
nobert_what?08:51
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flodinehelp a poor linux guy08:51
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amonkeywhen is the firefox version issue going to be fixed? or did i miss it...08:52
BoarderTXhey whats up everyone08:52
thoreauputicflodine: you need to be more specific about what is happening08:52
flodinei loaded fluxbox and now my gnome wont come up08:52
skoopright guys, no backports anymore, but still the same menu problem08:52
delirethoreauputic: yes, cheers.08:52
flodinehelp08:52
BoarderTXi just came across ubuntu on distrowatch, what a nice distro, at least thus far08:52
BoarderTXnice changes to gnome, etc.08:52
thoreauputicflodine: what do you mean "loaded" ?08:53
annahow can i debootstrap breezy from hoary?08:53
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thoreauputicflodine: you were in fluxbox and now you don't get a login screen ?08:53
flodineis says my xsession has a error08:53
skoopis there an easy way to get rid of *all* packages that might've been installed from backports?08:53
thoreauputicflodine: what says that?08:53
flodinewhen i log in08:53
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skoopsomething like apt-get reinstall-all or whatever?08:54
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medkit_HappyFool, alright, found it. It is an Highpoint Controller and there are some Linux driver available for it.08:54
thoreauputicflodine: try running the failsafe gnome session08:54
HappyFoolmedkit_: yeah, i was going to post this: http://www.usenetlinux.com/archive/index.php/t-109608.html  -- looks like you might need a custom kernel driver08:54
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flodinethat wont open08:55
flodinefailsafe08:55
thoreauputicflodine: if that doesn't work, run `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ` in the failsafe terminal08:55
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christosyes i have speaker sound now08:55
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Hackmohey all, how can I tell if my webcam has been detected?08:55
thoreauputicflodine: if you can't do that, ctrl-alt-F1 , login and run that command08:55
skoopany more ideas before I go and re-install a clean hoary?08:56
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thoreauputicchristos: great :)08:56
holycow*sigh*08:56
linuxboyfriendhi all08:56
holycowyet another beautiful laptop falls to windows08:56
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thoreauputicskoop: you could try xfce4 :)08:56
holycowi can't wait to finish our pilot so i can forever stop installing winshit08:56
skoopthoreauputic: well, this is my wife's PC and she was just getting used to gnome08:56
skoopso I'd prefer sticking to gnome :-D08:56
LinuxJonesHackmo, dunno if this helps but have a peek >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras08:56
linuxboyfriendi am a dialup user, how can i connect to internet in ubuntu?08:56
thoreauputicskoop: I see :(08:57
deliretoxicfume: then go get a coffee.. see you back here in five minutes ;)08:57
thoreauputiclinuxamoeba21: do you have an external hardware modem?08:57
skoopthoreauputic: how easy is xfce? I've always used fluxbox and am now using openbox, so I've no experience with xfce08:57
caineShuddertrix: you there man?08:57
skoopthoreauputic: would a windows-minded person be able to easily use xfce?08:57
HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: you can use the gnome networking took to setup your dialup08:57
LinuxJoneslinuxboyfriend, you can try in network-admin08:57
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thoreauputicskoop: xfce4 is very nice, and more "newb friendly" than fluxbox etc08:58
BoarderTXi have ndiswrapper saying that my wireless card driver as well as hardware is present...but i can't get on the net, nor does antyhing but l0 show up on ifconfig...THOUGHTs?08:58
medkit_HappyFool, that sounds difficult.08:58
skoopwell yeah, fluxbox is hard for newbies, that much I know ;)08:58
HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: however, if you have a winmodem there may be extra work involved08:58
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HackmoLinuxJones: yeah i've had a look at that link and my webcam is supported(the only phillips one on there) and it  says it should work on boot up, it doesn't though08:58
thoreauputicskoop: xfce is a bit mac like in some ways08:58
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skoopxfce4 runs well on ubuntu?08:58
^thehatsrule^yes skoop it does08:58
linuxboyfriendHappyFool: yeah i have winmodem08:58
thoreauputicskoop: it's great08:58
drspinskoop: I use XFCE4 with nautilus (from gnome) my memory footprint is about half :) :)08:58
LinuxJonesHackmo, it is a usb device ?08:59
thoreauputicskoop: xfce4 is well worth trying08:59
HackmoLinuxJones: yeah08:59
skoopdrspin: interesting08:59
skoopthoreauputic: interesting as well :)08:59
HappyFoolmedkit_: i wouldn't worry about the initrd stuff mentioned on that page, unless you want to put your boot partition on those discs08:59
skoophow easy is it in xfce to manage menu entries?08:59
HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: do you know what make?08:59
skoopdoes ubuntu create menu entries in xfce automatically?08:59
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thoreauputicskoop: make sure you install the xfce4 package and not just "xfce"08:59
Kejk_PLhi, I have a problem with making modprobe (hotpllug) using permanently card=70 option for bttv module08:59
thoreauputicskoop: yup08:59
goldfishskoop: i found it did for most things.08:59
drspinskoop: yup08:59
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LinuxJonesHackmo, ok unplug it then plug it back in again then type sudo dmesg it should give you some messages at the end of that output.09:00
skoophmmm09:00
Kejk_PLlike here, but this don't resoleve problem: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimedia09:00
Shuddertrixand firefox. no memory problems here.09:00
thoreauputicskoop: try it - not a big download09:00
linuxboyfriendHappyFool: i have driver of my modem but it is in .tgz form and i dont know how to install it?09:00
skoopalready given the apt-get install xfce command ;)09:00
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HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: what's the tgz's full name ? What sort of modem do you have?09:00
skoopcan I select xfce on the gpm login screen?09:00
tiglionabbitskoop: I believe you have to write a .desktop entry for it09:01
christosi m using apt-get and i can't find mplayer package - i have uncommented the various lines from sources.list09:01
r0dhow are you able to use splashimages on here???09:01
Kejk_PLif I write modprobe bttv card=70 everything is all right09:01
linuxboyfriendmy modem is Intel 536EP and the file name is intel536ep.tgz09:01
HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: ah09:01
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HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: i have one of those too09:01
skooptiglionabbit: a .desktop entry? hm... *goes off to check how to do that*09:01
HackmoLinuxJones: yeah I get a lot of error messagse and the last one says "pwc Disconnected while webcam is in use!"09:01
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tiglionabbitskoop: You can have mine09:02
HackmoLinuxJones: it isn't in use though09:02
yahalomanyone here use pppoe?09:02
HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: and unless Intel have recently released a new driver, you'll have to do a little bit of work to get it going09:02
skooptiglionabbit: oh, that would be great :)09:02
thoreauputicskoop: you needed the "apt-get install xfce4" command (note the 4)09:02
skoopthoreauputic: oops :)09:02
HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: read this page for more instructions: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto09:02
christosi m using apt-get and i can't find mplayer package - i have uncommented the various lines from sources.list. why??09:02
thoreauputicskoop: try again: you'll be disappointed otherwise09:02
skoopthoreauputic: doing now :)09:02
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tiglionabbitskoop: but try it first.  Go to system tools -> new login  to run gdm in virtual terminal 809:03
HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: please let me know if there's anything you don't understand -- i'll update the page if there is09:03
thoreauputicchristos: it's in multiverse09:03
flodineok still need help with gnome09:03
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linuxboyfriendHappyFool: can you guide me that from where i can get the driver and how can I install it09:03
skooptiglionabbit: except that I can't go to system tools since I have no menu ;)09:03
medkit_HappyFool, booting from the HPT372 is not intended. In the post i'm still missing the step on how to make the harddisks on the HPT work.09:03
HappyFoollinuxboyfriend: please read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto09:03
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flodinea guys i get a gnome-session: 8119 error09:03
flodinewhats that09:04
annahow can i debootstrap breezy from hoary?09:04
yahalomwhen my adsl disconnect i cannot reconnect by typing in the command. the only way i can do it is by rebooting.09:04
QMarioCan the Totem Movie Player play DVDs?09:04
skooptiglionabbit: I'll just try it :)09:04
HappyFoolmedkit_: i imagine you'll need to get the highpoint controller, as you mentioned before, possibly compile it (or pieces of it), and load the final module09:04
linuxboyfriendHappyFool: ok give me some time09:04
skoopQMario: I personally like xine more for DVD's09:04
goldfishvlc is cool too09:04
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LinuxJonesHackmo, I guess you will have to do some googling :)09:04
flodinewell no more gnome help09:04
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BoarderTXweird question, how do you get to root in ubuntu terminal?09:05
BoarderTXits saying my password when i try to su is wrong09:05
flodinecome on ubuntu folks09:05
thoreauputicskoop: xfce4 should put an entry in your gdm sessions, by the way, so you can select it easily09:05
yahalomnobody uses adsl for goodness sake?09:05
annaBoardeTx: sudo bash09:05
HappyFoolmedkit_: if you need to compile kernel modules, install packages build-essential and linux-headers-386 (or possibly -686, or whatever kernel image you're running)09:05
annaBoarderTX: or sudo passwd and set a password09:05
BoarderTXanna: why is that way? thats not standard is it?09:05
Ryan_Please!!! someone get this dam torrent tracker up!!09:05
zaphandsHello everyone! when I "su" the password is correct but when i enter the password in X applications it's wrong. any one konws what to do?09:06
BoarderTXnice09:06
BoarderTXthanks09:06
annaBoarderTX: No it is not.... but it works ok09:06
tiglionabbitzaphands: use your user password, it runs sudo, not su09:06
HackmoLinuxJones: i've been googling for days now, thanks for your help though :)09:06
BoarderTXi did the sudo passwd09:06
flodinehello can i get a little help09:06
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annaThey disabled root by default09:06
zaphandsahhh thanks!09:06
zaphandsthanks tiglionabbit09:06
BoarderTXanna: i'm a solaris guy professionally, how come they use sudo istead of just su?09:06
r0dhow do you use splashimages on here?09:07
annaBoarderTX: With sudo you get the password memorized for some time09:07
flodinecan someone tell me why im getting gnome-session: 8119 errors09:07
LinuxJonesHackmo, I don't have a webcam but wish I could be of more help :(09:07
annaBoarderTX: So series of root commands need no re-enter of it09:07
HappyFoolmedkit_: you can do installations using synaptic; both packages ( -386 for headers) are on the install CD09:07
thoreauputicBoarderTX: see  ubuntulinux.org/wiki/rootsudo09:07
BoarderTXanna: thanks09:08
thoreauputicBoarderTX: that url may be wrong, I just typed it from memory09:08
HappyFoolBoarderTX: I think the reason 'why' is that this way you can't actually login as root.09:08
HackmoLinuxJones: it's ok thanks for trying, maybe you could help me out with another problem i'm having though, do you know how to turn on surround sound support?09:08
annaThat's on top of it :p09:08
zaphandstiglionabbit, now it says: Child terminated with 1 status. I tried to load add remove programs.09:08
BoarderTXi have ndiswrapper in my /etc/modules and /etc/hotplug/blacklist and ndiswrapper is reporting a driver and hardware present09:08
QMarioWhere can I download libdvdcss?09:08
BoarderTXso i know it sees the darn thing, now i just gotta figure out how come its not under iwconfig or ifconfig09:08
medkit_HappyFool, i have the modules and Kernel 2.6.10-5-k7 and gcc but this compiling thing is one step beyond my capabilities. But i thank you for now. I will try to learn this.09:08
Raskalla bit off topic, but is the following possible? Scenario: my home network is down due to power outage or something. When people try to contact my web services I then want them redirected to another out of the house web server with the message "Temporary down. Check back later".09:09
HappyFoolmedkit_: hopefully the module comes with a README or INSTALL file. If you have difficulties, please ask here09:09
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thoreauputicRaskall: I think dyndns.org provide a redirection servicee09:10
ShuddertrixRaskall: I know no-ip has such a service, allowing for a remote url for your no-ip subdomain, but if such a server tool was available, I'd be all over it.09:10
thoreauputic*service09:10
BoarderTXwhy would "modprobe ndiswrapper" cause a reboot? is that  acrash?09:10
Raskallthoreauputic, Shuddertrix: all my domains and records are static.09:11
ShuddertrixRaskall: round robin?09:11
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ShuddertrixI suppose that might work, but you'd have to check the details (in other words, i'm taking a guess)09:11
RaskallShuddertrix: then I guess I will have to pay extra to my domain pusher. my domain pusher only allows me to create A, CNAME and MX.09:12
BoarderTXanyone have experience getting there wifi to work with ubuntu?09:12
Raskalland I don't want to run my own dns server.09:12
ShuddertrixRaskall: I chose no-ip for handling my home domain..09:12
ShuddertrixThey do that, and why didn't I think of that? Heh.09:13
flodinedang o help in ubuntu for me wow09:13
HappyFoolQMario: read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats -- to a text search for 'libdvdcss'09:13
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RaskallShuddertrix: ok. I think that's too much hassle. Having to manually update stuff every 30 days or so. Especially when I have static IP09:13
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ShuddertrixRaskall: I haven't updated my ip for a couple of months now, and my no-ip domain still works (nice little "The web server is still under construction. Click here for the FTP"09:14
skoopthanks guys. my wife seems to like xfce409:15
ShuddertrixI have a static ip also ;)09:15
thoreauputicskoop: cool :)09:15
ShuddertrixWell, mainly static. The ip switchs between 2, if the other one doesn't work, I just reboot the cable modem :P09:15
RaskallShuddertrix: hmm.. are you running the no-ip update client?09:15
ShuddertrixRaskall: Nope.09:15
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RaskallShuddertrix: hmm..09:16
Shuddertrixanyways, i'm going outside.09:16
ShuddertrixMaybe somebody nice will throw me a good hot dog, and i'll throw them one of my ubuntu cd's back. :D09:16
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cablefishsomething is wrong09:16
cablefishWhatever mp3 player i choose it hangs whenever i start playing an mp3 file09:17
cablefishall other sound's fine09:17
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cablefishwhat could be wrong? Do i need a special lib?09:17
thoreauputiccablefish: have you tried xmms or beep-media-player with esound output plugin set?09:18
skoopcablefish: what software?09:18
cablefishthoreauputic, I've tried both beep and xmms, and they have the exact same problem; they hang when I press play.09:18
cablefishskoop, both xmms and beep so far. I haven't tried any other, but it plays .wav-files fine with some built-in program09:19
thoreauputiccablefish: with esound set in the preferences?09:19
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drspincablefish: warty or hoary?09:19
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St0n3-C0lwhat happened to backports ?09:19
thoreauputiccablefish: I suggest you  try beep with esound output set09:19
St0n3-C0l403 Forbidden09:19
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daba_sckdoes anyone have a clue(and I really mean just a clue would be greatly appreciated) about how I would go about taking a screenshot of a wm other than gnome, like some of the weirder ones, like blackbox, 9wm, and whatnot.09:19
medkit_HappyFool, dmesg tells that hpt366 ide_disk and hpt 34x are linked in but not 372A.09:20
cablefishdrspin, hoary. thoreauputic, I'm trying to find the esound setting09:20
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cyber23hello09:20
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skoopdaba_sck: the gimp's screenshot option?09:20
cyber23trying to get my ati x800 pro working09:20
thoreauputiccablefish: in prefs, beep, output plugin09:20
thoreauputicunder plugins09:20
cyber23when I do glxinfo I get direct rendering: No09:20
drspincablefish: I use the OSS or Alsa output plugins for XMMS -- just seems to work better... don't even think I run ESD09:20
cyber23how do I change09:20
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thoreauputicdaba_sck: install imagemagick, use "import -window root"09:21
daba_sckskoop: so, open the gimp, and try to take a screenshot through that, hey?09:21
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cablefishthoreauputic, okay. I'll check it out right now09:21
yahalomwhat is this: Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release09:21
yahalomErr http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/restricted Packages09:21
yahalom  403 Forbidden09:21
skoopdaba_sck: yes, let me see how the option is called09:21
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yahalomwhy forbiden?09:21
daba_sckyou are not aloowed anymore, they are on to you...09:21
[Spooky] anyone have a good guide/howto to make a new partition ?09:21
skoopdaba_sck: file -> acquire -> screen shot09:22
drspincablefish: I also disabled the XMMS-Gstreamer plugin -- gstreamer isn't ready yet -- I'm using libmpg123 plugin09:22
daba_sckthanks, yo!09:22
skoopdaba_sck: np09:22
daba_sckimagemagick is already the newest version.09:22
daba_sckok, we shall try this, then.09:22
jpCOOL09:22
jpWHAT's new?09:22
cyber23can anyone help me with my video card09:22
skoopcyber23: what kind of video card?09:22
cablefishthoreauputic, yes!! eSound did it. :o)09:23
thenukecyber23: dont ask to ask, just ask the question09:23
tiglionabbitspooky: well it's not very hard..09:23
drspinGEEZ installing M$ takes FOREVER!!!!09:23
yahalomanyone else get this?09:23
yahalomthoreauputic, u know what this is?09:23
daba_sckthoreauputic: where does the image go? there is a magick.miff in the fodler.09:23
cablefishthoreauputic, drspin, skoop, thanks a bundle!09:23
skoopdrspin: and this is a surprise to you? ;)09:23
cyber23x800 pro09:23
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yahalomlol09:23
QMarioHow do I install libdvdcss?09:23
skoopQMario: use synaptic?09:23
cyber23I get a Hall error when trying to play pc game09:24
yahalomsudo apt-get install libdvdcss09:24
drspinskoop: no I just had forgotten -- been bout 2.5 years since my last reinstall -- I have to do it again for work VPN rules :)09:24
thenukecyber23: you still do not ask anything else than if someone can read your mind09:24
QMarioNeither xine nor totem can play DVDs without libdvdcss.09:24
thoreauputicdaba_sck: I think you can specify a filename : it goes in the working dir you call it from09:24
skoopdrspin: poor you09:24
drspinskoop: indeed but I can work from home again :)09:24
QMarioSynaptic Package Manager does not have libdvdcss.09:24
daba_sckyeah, but there is a magick.miff file, is there a program that opens those?09:24
delireQMario: "<yahalom> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss"09:24
skoopright, still need to do the dishes :(09:24
tiglionabbitqmario: you might have to add repositories09:24
cyber23how do I change direct rendering: No to a YES09:24
yahalomdelire, thanx :)09:24
skoopsee ya guys later on09:24
drspinskoop: and I'm using a VM for it so I can continue my normal linux activites :) :) :)09:24
daba_sckyup09:24
skoopdrspin: hehe09:24
thoreauputicdaba_sck: magick.miff ? never heard of it09:25
QMarioWho is <yahalom>?09:25
delireyahalom: np ;)09:25
cyber23fgl_glxgears doesn't work I get an error09:25
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daba_sckwhat does it save as?09:25
delirejesus09:25
tiglionabbitqmario: go to settings->Repositories.  Select settings, check "Show disabled repositorios".  Now you may check boxes09:25
daba_sckthoreauputic: like a png file?09:25
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daba_sckshould I man imagemagick?09:25
QMarioDelire, The package is not available.09:26
yahalomQMario, me. just type what delire quoted09:26
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thoreauputicdaba_sck: aha  - do ` display magick.miff `09:26
cyber23I need a good site on how to setup a x800 pro in ubuntu09:26
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daba_sckhey, nice:) thoreauputic.09:26
thoreauputicdaba_sck: you can specify something sane like *.png though09:27
Daylighthaterhas anyone got project looking glass running on his pc??09:27
daba_sckthoreauputic: which man shoudl I read?09:27
drspindid everyone see the article on /. about switching from linux to windows the other day -- it shoots down all kinds of negative feedback linux gets :)09:27
drspinGood read...09:27
drspinit was yesterday or the day before I believe09:27
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BoarderTXanyone with ndsiwrapper experience, hit me up, thanks09:27
thoreauputicdaba_sck: hmm - man imagemagick09:28
daba_sckyeah, I thought so, thanks!09:28
thoreauputicdaba_sck: gives you all the many options09:28
medkit_I need to remove the linked modules "hpt366 ide_disk" and  "hpt34x generic" from my 2.6.10-5-k7 Kernel. I have gcc, Kernel Heades and Sources. Someone to guide me along?09:28
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QMarioI still can't find libdvdcss, but I did find mplayer.09:28
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daba_sckthoreauputic: pretty powerfull...09:29
QMarioThank you anyway. :-D09:29
thoreauputicdaba_sck: it does all kinds of cool conversions etc09:29
cyber23I need help with setting up my video card.... can someone help me get it working09:30
yahalomah ok the repos changed i didnt know09:30
thoreauputicdaba_sck: very useful suite of programs09:30
daba_sckthoreauputic: yeah, I can see it is very low level and works...09:30
daba_scka suite.09:30
terasurfercyber23: can you tell us what kind of card it is?09:31
daba_sckI have issues, tho...I should be in bed...09:31
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cyber23ATI x800 pro09:31
laosianohow do i configure xscreensaver to allow new logins instead of locking the screen???09:31
terasurfercyber23: wish i could help you, i've always used nVidia cards...09:31
daba_sckwho has a good screenshot of a non-gnome wm?09:32
cyber23k, thanks09:32
cyber23thats the answer I get ever where I go09:32
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cyber23use 6800 gt or ultra09:32
daba_sckcyber23: did you read the wiki, and tried to set that up?09:32
tiglionabbitthat's a great article09:32
cyber23oh yes09:33
cyber23I can't get direct rendering working09:33
cyber23I am getting a hall error09:33
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QMarioI installed mplayer, but for some reason, I do not hear sound.09:34
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daba_sckdo you guys ever notice the commercial microsoft has on its sites, about how "switching to linux from windows can be prohibitively expensive"?09:34
smoky_qmario: try it with the option: -ao esd09:34
dooglusgood evening all.  I'm wondering...  is there any way of seeing a description of what is the difference between 2 versions of a package?  like the update I am being asked to install for gdb, for example...09:34
deliredaba_sck: of course that add is on it's site.09:34
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daba_sckdelire: I love that add, it is so cool:)09:35
dooglusI have gdb 6.3-5ubuntu1 and now it is offering me gdb 6.3-5ubuntu-1.1.  what changed?09:35
smoky_if this work, change /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf09:35
medkit_I need to remove the linked modules "hpt366 ide_disk" and  "hpt34x generic" from my 2.6.10-5-k7 Kernel in order to compile in "hpt37x2" support. I have gcc, Kernel headers and sources. Someone to point me in the right direction?09:35
thoreauputic"using windows can be prohibitively insecure"09:35
daba_sckhehe09:35
deliredaba_sck: _very_ informative. alot of good information in there. microsoft offer a really, shall we say, neutral opinion on the matter.09:35
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daba_sckIm going to another wm, but, yeah, lol...09:35
terasurferdooglus: click System>Administration>Ubuntu Update Manager09:35
dooglusterasurfer: I did, but it doesn't tell me what has changed.09:36
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dbernar1weird all these different wms...09:37
terasurferdooglus: If you expand the Details section, it should give you the latest excerpt from the changelog09:37
dbernar1you guys ever tried out 9wm, that one is teh most fascinating so far to me...09:37
dooglusterasurfer: I've already applied the updates now, so I don't see anything in the update manager any more.  Can I see the changelog in synaptic somehow instead now?09:37
delirecan't beat wmi.modprobe.de09:38
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QMarioI still do not hear any sound.09:39
terasurferdooglus: not sure if that's possible once you've already applied the update09:39
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thesaltydoggot a problem with Sempron temperature and fan... any help?09:40
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terasurferdooglus: for a small version diff like that, it was probably very minor changes...doubtfully any features if that's what you're searching for09:40
terasurferthesaltydog: What exactly is the problem?09:40
thesaltydogsince a couple of weeks ago, the fan is running almost always at high speed (big noise in the night)09:41
thesaltydogterasurfer, temperature is cycling between 45 and 50 degrees C.09:41
terasurferthesaltydog: Is CPU usage high?09:41
thesaltydogterasurfer, no. almost idel09:41
thesaltydogidle09:41
St0n3-C0lmust be09:41
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St0n3-C0lhmnm..09:41
dooglusterasurfer: I'm guessing it was a security fix, but I'd like to see what exploit was fixed.  for example, I don't know whether the firefox I'm running has the 1.0.4 fixes backported, or just the 1.0.3 fixes.  can't I find out somehow?09:41
St0n3-C0lstrange09:41
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St0n3-C0lhey..anyone using backports here ??09:42
terasurferdooglus: probably can, i don't know how though09:42
thesaltydogterasurfer, I can't get installed powernowd. It says Sempron has no frequency scaling capability09:42
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medkit_dooglus, ubuntu 1.0.2 has 1.0. fixes backported09:42
terasurferthesaltydog: I'm guessing this is a laptop?09:42
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dooglusmedkit_: you missed a digit there?09:42
thesaltydogterasurfer, sorry. no, it is a server.09:42
medkit_dooglus, yes, 1.0.409:42
dooglusmedkit_: how can you tell?09:43
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jphow is called the gnome applet that changes the resolution?09:43
medkit_dooglus, somewhere in the bugtracker, with high number, over 1000009:43
terasurferthesaltydog: What kernel?09:43
jphow is called the gnome applet that changes the screen resolution?09:43
thesaltydog2.6.10-k7 Hoary09:43
tiggggri never understood the idea of backporting security fixes to old version. it would be less confusing to just update to newest version number IMO09:43
mg78hi! anyone using ubuntu hoary with a graphic card ATI 9700?09:44
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novaflarehmm09:44
novaflareis this normal09:44
novaflarenova@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | grep 'AGP aperture'09:44
novaflareagpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xd000000009:44
novaflareagpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xd000000009:44
dooglusmedkit_: is it possible to view the 'changelog' for a package?09:44
novaflareit lists the same out put twice09:44
terasurferthesaltydog: I'm sort of confused...do you want the CPU freq to scale? Or are you just expecting lower temps?09:44
novaflarefrom one command09:44
thesaltydogterasurfer, 2.6.10-k709:44
Shuddertrixnovaflare: that's normal09:44
novaflarek09:44
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thesaltydogterasurfer, I am expecting fan running lower speed, as it was used to do before last linux-image update... I can't sleep in the night!!09:45
jphow is called the gnome applet that changes the screen resolution?09:45
ShuddertrixOn some boots it happens twice for me, on some boots it happens once. strange, but it doesn't hurt anything.09:45
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ShuddertrixI get the same output but one time on this kernel09:45
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Shuddertrix(agp aperture is also 128mb)09:46
novaflareyeh09:46
andaxhow to get ftpfs for ubuntu? i tried the source from ftpfs.sf.net but compile fails with some weird error, isn't there a package for it?09:46
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novaflareim trying to get higher performance under cedega09:46
novaflareso trying to track down any possible inconsitancies09:46
jeff25novaflare: what vid card you got09:46
novaflarehopeing to find some error09:46
novaflareati 9k pro agp09:47
novaflare128 meg09:47
terasurferthesaltydog: Ahh so it was after a kernel upgrade...you should file a bug report and use the previous kernel for the time being (assuming none of the new changes are mission critical to you)09:47
thesaltydogterasurfer, I have checked: fan is starting at 45 degrees and stopping at 50. Always cycling. Sempron has a max temp of 90 degrees..09:47
medkit_dooglus, usually /usr/share/doc and then there are a lot of changelogs09:47
jeff25novaflare: have you got get cedega to work ?09:47
novaflareyeh09:47
novaflarea cvs build09:47
novaflareworks great09:47
novaflareheh i can even run mirc lol09:47
jeff25novaflare: can you run HL209:48
novaflarenot tried09:48
novaflareim not in to first person shooters09:48
Shuddertrixnovaflare: cedega is a touch slower with some games and a touch faster with some.09:48
dooglusmedkit_: thanks.  /usr/share/doc/gdb/changelog.Debian.gz is what I was looking for.09:48
novaflareif you got a download for a demo or somethign i can give it a shot09:48
thesaltydogterasurfer, ok. thanks.09:48
novaflarewell rubies of eventide is heavy on d3d09:48
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novaflarethat explains some09:48
novaflarebut damn i mean its just this side of being slower on ubuntu than on windows09:49
novaflareim talking maybe 5 fps09:49
novaflarewich is just under being completly playable09:49
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novaflarei just keep thinking damn theres got to be some way to get another 5 or 6 fps in this heh09:49
novaflarehmm09:50
andaxoverclocking :)09:50
novaflarei should grab me a d3d bench mark09:50
novaflareno09:50
novaflarethats ine thing i never do09:50
novaflarenot on my primary computer09:50
Shuddertrixnovaflare, does that game have a demo or something?09:50
novaflaresecound comp09:50
novaflareill risk09:50
novaflarerubies09:50
novaflarefree dl free to play09:50
andaxnovaflare, try without sound :)09:50
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novaflareruns on donations man09:50
Epixwheres the changelog for breezy?09:50
novaflaremight help accualy09:50
novaflareand i forgot to try lol09:51
Shuddertrixah, i love those kinds of games, link me and i'll try it09:51
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novaflareesp sence im useing onboard sound ...09:51
novaflarehttp://www.eventide.net its a mmorpg09:51
novaflarenow one thing do not cuss in game or in irc heh09:51
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Shuddertrixnovaflare: I figured it was an mmorpg ;)09:51
novaflarestrong language rules on phoenix peggy and fireopals09:51
novaflarenow on halberd any thing goes as its the pvp server09:52
novaflarefire opals is role play09:52
novaflarepeggy and phoenix general play09:52
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novaflarebrb trying with no sound09:52
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novaflarehmm that helped some09:55
jphow is called the gnome applet that changes the screen resolution?09:55
novaflarestill not there yet but almost09:55
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sbcl3does anyone know the name of Lynx's rendering engine (if it has a name)?09:57
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CutmanHi, I am new to Ubuntu and I have a question: Ubuntu can't find my DVD drive, because it's an PATA drive and not an IDE or SCSI drive. What should I do?09:57
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[Phaedrus] sbcl3: google "lynx rendering engine"09:57
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jwwwbcutman: explain "cannot find"09:58
Epixcan you instal unreal tourninment on linux? i saw something about it somewhere...09:58
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andrewskihow does one change the default action for filetypes in nautilus 2.10?  the user's guide talked about a "modify" dialog that i can't reproduce.09:58
jwwwbepix: sure i played UT under linux for years09:58
[Phaedrus] Epix: if you have the linux version, yes it can be attempted09:58
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Epixjwwwb: can you still buy it?09:58
fresh27I'm installing Ubuntu for the first time and I ran into the "No installable kernel found" error. I can't find a way to fix this :(09:58
fishiewhy is gimp such a pain in the ass?09:58
jwwwbepix: sure, check bargain bins or amazon.com09:59
[Phaedrus] fresh27: what processor do you have and what install cd are you using?09:59
Daehliesince it is a gimp?09:59
[Phaedrus] fishie: cause, its the way gimp is :)09:59
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fresh27P4, using the x86 CD from ShipIt09:59
CutmanDuring the installation process, I get a message that I't cant find my CD Drive, because its not connected to an IDE or an SCSI drive09:59
fishiei made a text layer. how do i move it?09:59
sbcl3can i transition to kubuntu without a whole os install all over again?09:59
fishiei feel like an idiot09:59
[Phaedrus] fresh27: can you boot using the livecd of the same package?09:59
St0n3-C0lsbcl3: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:59
jwwwbcutman: you may need to load a module.  do you know what kind of controller your cdrom is attached with?10:00
fresh27the livecd works fine10:00
skoopit seems a lot of people with nvidia are having segfault problems with a.o. xmms ... solution seems to be to install an earlier version of the nvidia drivers (?) ... anyway, is it possible to do that with apt-get?10:00
CutmanPATA10:00
[Phaedrus] sbcl3: install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic10:00
sbcl3st0n3-C0l: when i restart will KDE come up? if so, how do i go back to GNOME?10:00
jwwwbcutman: sure, but what kind?  like intel, via, nvidia10:00
CutmanIntel10:00
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[Phaedrus] fresh27: when are you getting that error?10:00
yaliCapkiniselam aranzda trk var m10:00
St0n3-C0lsbcl3: Display Manager will let u select10:01
CutmanOr, its an Dell PC10:01
St0n3-C0lKDE or GNOME :)10:01
jwwwbcutman: use alt-f2 to get a console, then "modprobe piix" and "modprobe ide-generic"10:01
jwwwbsee if that works10:01
CutmanOk10:01
fresh27In the "Install the base system" phase, about 68% of the way through.10:01
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CutmanI'll try it out10:01
CutmanI'll come back tomorrow to tell you if it worked10:02
jwwwbfishie: you have to click on the actual colored pixels of the text layer to move it, or select it explicitly in the layers dialog10:02
CutmanThanks for the help10:02
fresh27http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=191723#post191723 <-- here's a forum post with more detail about my problem10:02
jwwwbgood luck10:02
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novaflarehmm i wonder what default is for fsaa with atis drivers on linux10:02
fishieyea i figured it out10:02
jwwwbso has anyone else noticed that linux-source-2.6.12 ftbfs?10:02
fishiethanks10:02
jwwwbon i686 even10:03
skooptalking about nvidia drivers, why is it that glx won't work with hoary?10:03
[Phaedrus] fresh27: it must be something to do with a hardware problem... i cant think of it being anything else.. did you check the forums?10:03
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fresh27Yeah, other people had the same problem, but nobody ever found a solution.10:03
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fishiei hope someone makes a perfection icon theme for thunderbird :D10:04
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QMarioHas anyone successfully watched a DVD, or a movie in Ubuntu? Is so, which program did you use?10:05
jwwwbvlc10:05
jwwwbmplayer also works10:05
skoopxine10:05
Fator_Deeogle10:06
jwwwball of the above :)10:06
skoophehe10:06
Fator_Deeand others :-D10:06
skoopanyway, anyone know anything about glx/nvidia issues in hoary?10:06
Fator_Deewhat kind of issues10:06
skoopglx not working ;)10:06
[Phaedrus] sorry fresh27... i am clueless10:06
jwwwbi have some trouble with DVDs because ubuntu ships the kernel with DMA for ATA optical drives disabled10:06
Fator_Deejwwwb: well, enable it :-|10:07
[Phaedrus] QMario: you could use mplayer or Xine10:07
skoopand it seems xmms is crashing because of nvidia issues as well :)10:07
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skoopI've enabled glx obviously10:07
jwwwbfator_dee: would love to, but the kernel package doesn't build10:07
Fator_Deejwwwb: just edit the /etc/hdparm.conf file10:07
QMarioFor some reason I do not hear audio with mplayer. How do I hear some sound?10:07
Fator_Deejwwwb: ?10:07
jwwwbuh no, it's disabled in the kernel10:07
Fator_Deeoh10:07
[Phaedrus] QMario: that's probably cause the audio codecs are not installed :)10:07
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Fator_Deejwwwb: how's that possible? I mean, I've never encountered something like that10:08
jwwwbCONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y10:08
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[Phaedrus] QMario: its cause MP3 is technically a protected format... there is a section in the forums about "restricted formats"10:08
jwwwb# hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc10:08
jwwwb setting using_dma to 1 (on)10:08
jwwwb HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted10:08
jwwwb using_dma    =  0 (off)10:08
QMarioPhaedrus, how do I download the audio codecs?10:08
Fator_Deejwwwb: sudo?10:08
jwwwbthat's as root10:08
QMarioWhere do I download them?10:08
Fator_Deeoh10:08
thenukeQMario: www.ubuntuguide.org10:09
Seveasjwwwb, load your motherboards drivers instead of ide_generic10:09
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jwwwbseveas: what would that be exactly?  i have nforce3-250 chipset10:09
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jwwwbi already loaded sata_nv, but the DVD isn't SATA, it's PATA10:10
pixelmonkeyhaving nasty issues getting bootsplash to work again with Ubuntu... does anyone know a site with the proper debs to use to get bootsplash working under ubuntu?10:10
christoshas anyone installed jedit? i add a repository but apat-get wants me to install kaffe-common java-common and others which i don't need cuase i got sun's java10:10
Seveasjwwwb, no idea, google is your friend :)10:10
jwwwbalas, google is clueless in this case10:10
jwwwbif i use ide-scsi i get DMA10:11
biovoreoO10:11
Fator_Deejwwwb: why not use that then if it works?10:11
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Fator_Deeor is there a catch10:11
Seveaside-scsi is deprecated10:11
Seveasthat's the catch :)10:11
jwwwb+seveas, and sometimes ide-scsi panics10:12
Fator_Deethought of something like that :-p10:12
Seveashmm, panics are bad :)10:12
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Fator_Deedepends on who/what is panicing10:12
KpjasHi Where's TFM ? I like to know things and why something works or doesn't work. And I don't want to bother you Ub gurus too much :)10:12
jwwwbhowever, on the very positive side, ACPI S3 sleep (suspend-to-ram) is working :)10:12
Fator_Deeif the kernel freak out, I freak out too10:12
Fator_Dee*freaks10:12
SeveasKpjas, tldp.org / wiki.ubuntu.com contain a lot of TFM10:13
Fator_DeeKpjas: but where are here to be bothered? but I don't consider myself as a guru though :-p10:13
Fator_Dee*we are here10:13
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Fator_Deedamn, serious typos :-\10:13
Seveasyeah,,,10:14
Fator_Deemaybe I should think about what I'm writing10:14
KpjasFator_Dee: Ok you all have helped me a lot already thnx10:14
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jwwwbbrb10:14
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fresh27[Phaedrus] : I think I solved my problem after about 2 hours, in case you care. I decided not to mount my shared drive this time, and it seems things worked.10:14
tarvidanything special about bringing up a com port on ubuntu?10:14
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KpjasFator_Dee: I don't want to ask too obvious questions10:14
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Fator_DeeKpjas: it's nice to answer a question that you know about :-)10:15
tarvidon my T20, the com port doesn't light up anything on my signal monitor10:15
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geetergodcan anyone help me install limewire? im having troubles10:16
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KpjasFator_Dee: OK I need a package that's not available through synaptic and a deb from the net has multiple dependecies. What's the way to go ?10:16
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KpjasFator_Dee: normally I'd grab a src rpm10:17
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tswany idea why mplayer-mozilla plugin wont give any sound.. video works just fine?10:17
andrewskiKpjas: you can make a local repository for debs, if you can find it from debian.10:17
Fator_DeeKpjas: well, if you can install the dependencies from apt-get it's ok10:17
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KpjasFator_Dee: and dependencies need more dependecies etvc10:18
Fator_DeeKpjas: I was going to point that out :-p10:18
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Fator_Deeso it might be nigh impossiple to get it installed :-\10:18
KpjasFator_Dee: can I compile from src deb Is there such thing ?10:18
Fator_Deewhat are you trying to install exactly?10:19
Kpjasa plugin for xmms10:19
Seveastsw, let mplayer use esd10:19
tswSeveas: cant find any configuration for the plugin.. mplayer itself works just fine10:20
sysrqmaybe that stream has no sound10:20
Fator_DeeKpjas: and you can make a .deb from sources if that's what you meant10:20
Seveastsw, in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, find a line that starts with ao=, set it to ao=esd. Should work for mplayer and the plugin10:20
tswtested with lots of streams10:20
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tswSeveas: thanks Ill check10:20
Seveastsw, you can check /etc/mplayer-plugin/conf too10:20
jrobcettsw, have you copied all the windows codecs to /usr/lib/win32?10:21
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KpjasFator_Dee: with rpms you have src rpm that u can rebuild and bypass dependencies10:21
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Kpjasmore or less10:22
tswSeveas: thanks that sound option helped, it was alsa by default..10:22
jpit's cool :)10:23
geetergodW: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-ext ras/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists _hoary-extras_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directo ry)10:23
geetergodthats what it says when i try to install limewire10:23
icemanhumm, anyone know if there are a complete set of cd's available for ubuntu for downlaod ...10:23
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geetergodW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:23
geetergodE: Couldn't find package limewire10:23
Fator_Deeiceman: there's a dvd, but there's no "complete set"10:23
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icemanFactor_dee darn ... lack a DVD burner ...10:24
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geetergodhey teebones10:25
teeboneshello10:25
teebones;)10:25
geetergodcan u help me with something or are u busy?10:25
geetergodif ur busy its ok10:25
teebonesdepends10:25
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geetergodjust trying to install limewire10:26
jrobcetgeetergod: there are step by step instructions for installing LimeWire here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire10:26
geetergodok kool10:26
geetergodthanks10:26
jaysinis there a command like net send i can use to send messages to a windows machine?10:26
teebones*giggles* ehm..10:27
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tiglionabbitjaysin: exactly what sort of messages do you want to send?10:27
teebonesi don't know .. never had such situations like you want jaysin10:27
teebonesmaybe talk10:28
teeboneswill do?10:28
jaysini want to send the little pop-up messages to my brother10:28
Seveasneh, talk and net send do not interoperate :)10:28
teebonesok.. like i said.. dunno ;-)10:28
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[Phaedrus] jaysin: i did a little search and i found this "Samba: use 'smbclient -M {NetBIOS name}' to send messages."10:29
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enkiduok so i got sound working, installed some stuff for dvd and now my sound wont work anymore, any thoughts?10:29
teebones[Phaedrus] , asuming he uses samba10:30
teebones;-)10:30
[Phaedrus] well, it says he can use it to send msgs to winpopup10:30
[Phaedrus] i have no idea... never been in that situation... there is only one way to find out if it works10:31
teebonessame here10:31
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jaysinthanks guys :) I think it worked10:31
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[Phaedrus] :)10:32
teebonesThe network here.. is well. *you guessed right* non-commercial OS based10:32
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[Spooky] i need help guidelines to make a new partition ?10:32
cyber23I just did a driver install for a ati x800 and when I do a fglrxinfo it says that I have mesa drivers installed.... can someone help please10:32
[Phaedrus] there you go... its one happy man... enjoy jaysin10:32
teebones[Spooky] , shoot!10:32
[Phaedrus] was that message for me teebones?10:33
teebones[Spooky] , -> man fdisk10:33
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Shuddertrixsomeone say winpopup? linpopup is the same thing but for linux.10:33
teebones[Phaedrus] , yes :-)10:33
[Spooky] teebones: just wanna know the apps name to make a new hdd partition i cant remeber them...10:33
gijoshHey.  How should I go about installing Grub without reinstalling Ubuntu?10:33
teebones[Spooky] , FDISK10:34
teebones:-)10:34
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[Phaedrus] so, it works right? who would have guessed that samba had such possibilities10:34
[Spooky] teebones: ok, i remeber some other name ... ext3fs something ?10:34
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teebonesi didn't10:34
cyber23can someone help me out with getting the right drivers installed10:34
cyber23they are ati and it is saying when I use the fglrxinfo I have mesa10:35
[Phaedrus] cyber23: does your ubuntu boot into GUI mode?10:35
cyber23yup10:35
biovoreati + linux = crap10:35
teebonessure.. but that's after the creation of the partition10:35
g14yes, but thats ati's fault10:35
[Phaedrus] well, probably its the right drivers then... why fiddle with it when it works?10:35
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cyber23I want to play games on it10:35
JohnnyFavIs anybody here running sympatico with ubuntu?10:36
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biovoregame + linux + ati = not happin10:36
teebones[Spooky] , 1) create partition with fdisk, 2) set the filesystem for the partition (e.g. ext3)10:36
St0n3-C0lsympatico ?10:36
we2bycyber23, run glxinfo10:36
JohnnyFavsympatico dsl internet10:36
cyber23ok10:36
we2bybiovore, I am playing game with ati radeon10:36
[Phaedrus] JohnnyFav: you have a better chance asking for DSL...10:36
we2by:P10:36
robert_why does my ubuntu have no sounds?10:36
Shuddertrixbiovore: it will work, it's just a little harder to configure and takes longer then the average nvidia install :P10:36
teebonesstep 2 can be done with e.g.  mke2fs -j /dev/hd-device10:36
biovoreyeah but it runs slow10:36
JohnnyFavI read a lot of info and everything and I'm stuck on the dsl setup with ubuntu10:37
gijoshHow do you install Grub by itself?10:37
teebones(for ext3)10:37
Shuddertrixyes, speed is an issue also10:37
we2bybiovore, slow?10:37
cyber23what an I looking for10:37
we2bynot here10:37
biovoreI don't even think UT2k4 will even work on an ATI card10:37
Amaranth...10:37
Amaranthbiovore: ever heard of OpenGL?10:37
teebonesATI sucks10:37
biovoreyes.. but the ATI driver dosn't support all of the extentions10:37
we2bybiovore, I think it works great on mine10:37
Shuddertrixbiovore: it does, perfectlky10:38
teebonesthey can't properly write a good working *nix driver10:38
we2byI haven't test it yet10:38
AmaranthActually if you aren't a hardcore gamer the best video card for linux would be the Radeon 920010:38
we2byI played et and etf very nicely10:38
we2by:)10:38
^thehatsrule^no, ut2k4 will work on ati cards10:38
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cyber23I had games running10:38
biovorethe ATI cards are fine, problems are with the driver support10:38
Shuddertrixmy wife's 8500 is about the same speed as her old geforce 3 with ut2k4.10:38
Amaranthbecause the Radeon 9200 is the last Radeon that has an open source driver10:38
cyber23but now I can't get any 3d10:38
cyber23we2by can you help10:39
teebonesbiovore, that's what i just said10:39
Fator_Deecyber23: what does glxinfo say about direct rendering?10:39
cyber23ni10:39
cyber23no10:39
we2bycyber23, did you install the driver?10:39
JohnnyFavwould the fact that my passwords are shadowed affect my username login through chap.secrets?10:39
JohnnyFavfor dsl10:39
Fator_Deecyber23: did you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to point to the fgrlx drivers?10:39
cyber23the ones from ati10:39
sysrqJohnnyFav: no10:39
teebonesJohnnyFav, yes10:39
cyber23how do I do that10:39
[Phaedrus] no JohnnyFav10:39
JohnnyFavno10:40
JohnnyFavok10:40
teebonesOh.. ok.. now i follow your question JohnnyFav10:40
Fator_Deecyber23: I'll find you a howto on the net10:40
cyber23thanks dude10:40
teebonessry10:40
raDeonAmaranth, what can i do for you10:40
AmaranthraDeon: ?10:40
raDeonyou called?10:40
AmaranthraDeon: Nothing, I was talking about the video card. :)10:40
Nvidiahehe10:41
[Phaedrus] well, its been a while since i used a DSL connection... so let me refresh a bit10:41
ogi_http://www.sithsense.com/flash.htm does this work for anybody with firefox10:41
St0n3-C0llol10:41
St0n3-C0lATI Radeon :P10:41
novaflareack has to be some tweak that will get me just 5 or 6 more fps in rubies damn it10:41
St0n3-C0li think10:41
St0n3-C0l:>10:41
JohnnyFavmy netstat shows that my ethernet is connected to my hub......and when I start my pppoe connection it says Warning eth0 is still in broadcast mode10:41
teebonesogi_, problems here with the mentioned site10:41
[Phaedrus] ah, so you have pppoe installed10:42
ogi_teebones, i big box in front of it all?10:42
JohnnyFavyes10:42
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cyber23can someone send me the drivers for a ati x80010:42
teebonesogi_, yeah.. lightgrey10:42
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raDeonyour mother's name is ubuntu10:42
teebonesraDeon, thanks!10:42
teebones:-)10:43
ogi_hmph10:43
Shuddertrixnovaflare: you can't install drivers in cedega.10:43
axs\q10:43
novaflarei know heh10:43
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Fator_Deecyber23: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto10:43
tsumeoh god damn this is funny on /.10:43
ogi_wonder what I should do about the site..10:43
tsumethis idiot says C#/mono is faster than C++10:44
teebonescompain10:44
teebones+l10:44
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teebonestsume, lol10:44
g14tsume: You mean it's not </troll>10:44
tsumelusi 9410 0.1 0.3 4924 1800 pts/3 Sl+ 16:22 0:00 ./testapp10:44
tsumeclusi 9393 0.8 0.7 14940 3868 pts/3 Sl+ 16:37 0:00 /usr/bin/cli ./test.exe10:44
biovoretsume: some realy said that.. lol10:44
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tsumemono  even eats more memory10:44
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IIIEarsHow do i probe my pci bus for devices & names?10:44
hondjelspci -vvv10:44
teeboneslspci10:44
tsumeI've a friend who designed a OpenGL game in pure C# code. He says it is slow as hell for mathematical computation10:44
biovoreC#/mono are horibble10:44
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robert_In a terminal, after i type man followed by a command and then i push "q", why does it say "Reformatting [command] " ???10:45
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ogi_what alternative browser should I install..10:45
raDeontsume, stop right there we know you're lying10:45
IIIEarsThank You (hug)10:45
raDeon"i have a friend" yeah right.10:45
g14C# is designed to kill java, not run fast10:45
tsumehe made this great looking battle vehicle game, too bad he won't finish it :)10:45
tsumeg14: I know that, but do the idiots know that?10:45
deliretsume: C# is easy to write but not all that fast.10:45
wdhrobert_, i guess because it is converting the manpage from a zipped format10:45
Shuddertrixtsume: if it was C#, i wouldn't even write it.10:45
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robert_so its not a bad thing?10:45
deliretsume: you'd better better of with *.pyc10:45
St0n3-C0lShuddertrix: Slackware 10.1 manual kernel compiling sucks :P10:45
wdhrobert_, not at all10:45
robert_ok, good :-)10:46
geetergodCan i have that link again for the instructions on how to install limewire?10:46
tsumedelire: it depends on programming level. Us advanced programmers can write apps in C as fast as dingbat C# programmers ;)10:46
AmaranthWould you believe me if I told you a GTK# (C#) application uses less RAM than a PyGTK (Python) application?10:46
wdhgeetergod, try ubuntuguide.org or the wiki10:46
ShuddertrixSt0n3-C0l: I was able to compile a kernel successfully with it on a different box.. how could that suck? :D10:46
tsumedelire: python is actually decent at math computation10:46
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wdhgeetergod, at least the latter has a pretty decent searchfunction10:46
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tsumedelire: its kinda ligher, but perl beats it. Perl has unmaintainable syntax however :/10:46
St0n3-C0lShuddertrix: me too on 10.0 but on 10.1 i dun know why it gives kernel panic :P10:46
teebonesgeetergod, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire10:46
deliretsume: it's also alot more fun. especially with python numeric10:46
Amaranthtsume: only with numpy10:46
g14Easier to write code is more maintainable and generally has less bugs10:46
g14Thats why python was written10:47
geetergodthanks10:47
tsumeg14: yep10:47
teebonesgeetergod, make a bookmark for it10:47
deliretsume: my experience of perl is not knowing how the hell i wrote what i wrote a week ago.10:47
teebones:-)10:47
Amaranthno, python was written as a next generation language to go with the amoeba system, the successor to minix10:47
tsumeg14: its easy to write C/C++ apps and debug as well, but it takes a exp. debugger ;)10:47
ShuddertrixSt0n3-C0l: Well, i've seen people with those problems, which is why i'm going to try vmware before I compile my own kernel on my working slackware 10.1 on this box.10:47
tsumedelire: I feel like that when pulling a 48 hour day10:47
teebonesehm.. peeps.. go to #wichlanguageisbetter :-)10:47
[Spooky] dam i dont understand fdisk :/ is there any other app ?10:47
ShuddertrixBack to ubuntu talk however. Ubuntu is godly.10:47
St0n3-C0lnice ;)10:47
St0n3-C0lor u can also try ArchLinux10:48
St0n3-C0llol10:48
Amaranthswinging it back to languages, smeg is written in python ;)10:48
tsumeI believe I'll port beagle to C++10:48
teebones[Spooky] , fdisk is not difficult at all10:48
ShuddertrixSt0n3-C0l: ArchLinux sucks, i hated it when I used it.. ubuntu and slackware are much more well-rounded.10:48
tsumeusing wxwidgets ;) :)10:48
St0n3-C0lehe10:48
tsumeShuddertrix: didn't you love that idiot who maintains it? ;)10:48
Amaranthtsume: I think someone did the hard work for you. Pretty sure there is a C++ version of lucene10:48
tsumeShuddertrix: and "pacman"10:48
tsumeAmaranth: oh really? :)10:49
teebones[Spooky] , pressing m key will reveil the menu of choices10:49
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[Spooky] teebones: hehe i dont get it... i need to blank my /dev/hdb and make a new like /disk2 ext2 there10:49
schleyfoxHow can I override APT/Synaptic's "Broken Package" thing.  I force installed e17 and it works just fine, but I can't install my other programs without the dirn thing trying to uninstall my enlightenment goodness, how do I make the thing shutup and let me do what I want?10:49
Shuddertrixtsume: Oh, that guy was my god! # end sarcasm10:49
tsumeShuddertrix: I looked at the patches the guy placed in the builts for g++ when it first came out. he patched the exit code from programs which was perfectly fine in the first place10:49
teebones[Spooky] , what partion is on hdb now?10:50
[Spooky] none10:50
teebones?10:50
IIIEars[spooky]  = fdisk is what i use but there are some graphical partition managers gedit and qtparted (better)10:50
tsumeShuddertrix: I think he was trying to experiment with linux and a program monitoring system, because changing the exit() function which he did made no aparent sense.10:50
Shuddertrixtsume: Yeah, that made no sense..10:50
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g14I'm waiting for lucene to be able to be built without anything prop. Then I can have eclipse on ubuntu10:50
geetergodi bookmarked it teebone10:50
geetergodstill cant get it to work10:50
teebonesso it's not used before?10:50
geetergodi do everything step by step10:50
tsumeg14: why would you want to use Eclipse(out of curiosity)?10:51
geetergodlooks like i do everything right but its never there10:51
ShuddertrixAnd to this day, i still laugh about pacman.10:51
IIIEars[Spooky]  Give qtparted a try.10:51
geetergodi mean LimeWireSoftOther.zip is on my desktop i downloaded....10:51
tsumewaka waka waka waka waka waka10:51
g14tsume: http://pydev.sourceforge.net/ autocomplete when I write python10:51
tsume*blee* blieep belipp10:51
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tsumeg14: autocomplete is overrated10:52
g14tsume: Plus some of the admins here at work build admin tools into the eclipse framework10:52
geetergodjust cant seem to have it say i have limewire10:52
Shuddertrixwhew-whew-whew-whew-whew-whew-whew waka waka waka waka waka10:52
g14tsume: If they would only gpl them10:52
teebones[Spooky] ,  sudo fdisk /dev/hdb10:52
[Spooky] IIIEars:  donthave it :/10:52
cyber23how do I load fglrx into my kernel10:52
[Spooky] teebones: tried that10:52
g14tsume: Think Microsoft Management Console for Samba and LDAP10:52
teebones[Spooky] , press p10:53
teebones(print partitions)10:53
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IIIEars[Spooky]  Could you add it using synaptic?10:53
[Spooky] ok done10:53
g14Not trying to start a flamewar, eclipse is the best and most extensible ide10:53
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jrobcetgeetergod: what do you mean it's never there.....in the applications menu?10:53
g14even if you don't code java10:53
Fator_Deecyber23: the link I gave you gives all information that is needed10:53
Shuddertrixdarn, thinking about archlinux's pacman wants me to play it now.10:53
teebonesif there is none... press n10:53
geetergodyes10:53
hondjeUnless you use vim :p10:53
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g14I said IDE, not code editor :)10:54
jrobcettry this: sudo killall gnome-panel10:54
tsumeg14: SWT is slow and doesn't use the native toolkits on platforms though10:54
geetergodwhen i type in limewire in the terminal it says command not found10:54
Jet2k5Hey guys, anyone here have any experience with Bastille-Linux?10:54
hondjeI like qt designer10:54
teebonesit asked for wich primary of extended10:54
Bicchii am trying to use my ipod with  ubuntu but ubuntu does not detect it when i plug it in. it does when i reboot the computer. i am using the firewire connection. what am i doing wrong?10:54
[Spooky] teebones: i got one...10:54
IIIEarshondje - No! No--oo anything but "vim"! - lol10:54
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jrobcetnevermind...10:54
hondjeI <3 vim10:54
teebonesyou got one?10:54
g14vim owns10:54
teeboneswhat does it say?10:54
tsumeyou people need to test drive wxWidgets :)10:54
[Spooky] teebones: /dev/hdb110:54
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g14I uninstalled nano first chance I got on ubuntu10:54
Jet2k5Bicchi: did you fix your stuff in /etc/fstab10:54
teebonesgo on10:54
teebones:)10:54
cyber23what link Factor_dee10:55
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tsumeg14: how do I delete nano?10:55
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BicchiJet2k5: yes10:55
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IIIEarsvim is nice enough if you are willing to learn it.10:55
jrobcetthe necessary folder in is /opt10:55
Jet2k5arrgh10:55
teeboneswhat system does it have?10:55
sbcl3is there a way to save the pages in multiple tabs all at once in mozilla firefox?10:55
tsumeg14: just rm? or do I need a dummy package?10:55
Fator_Deecyber23: yngh... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto <-- *that*10:55
BicchiJet2k5: the problem is with ubuntu detecting the hardware without me rebooting first.10:55
Jet2k5Bicchi: sorry then, I'm helping out with developing gtkpod, but I use it throught USB10:55
jrobcetthat was a question..10:55
g14tsume: use apt, you have to remove ubuntu-desktop too10:55
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[Spooky] teebones: system linux it says should i ust make a mount point then ?10:55
Jet2k5Bicchi: did you try mounting /etc/fstab?10:55
cyber23ya, that didn't help any.. thanks though10:55
tsumeg14: ugh.10:55
Bicchihow is that done?10:55
BicchiJet2k5: how is that done?10:56
sbcl3Bicchi: "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"10:56
teeboneswell if your sure that it can be overwritten (like a new partion)10:56
sbcl3follow the other ones listed there10:56
g14tsume: nano drives me crazy. I put vim on all of my sun boxes too10:56
Jet2k5Bicchi: I'm not sure if you have to do it as root or not, but it's ' mount -a ' without the ' '10:56
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tsumeg14: ever thought about wxWidtgets for a toolkit? ;)10:56
novaflarewhat is this dri project exactly?10:56
teeboneserr partition i mean10:56
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teebonesit will suffice10:56
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sbcl3follow the other ones listed there10:56
tsumeg14: I don't use vim either, I use magnets :)10:56
sbcl3whoops10:56
sbcl3is there a way to save the pages in multiple tabs all at once in mozilla firefox?10:56
threatG'Day10:56
Fator_Deecyber23: exactly how it didn't help you?10:56
tsumeg14: I rearrange my own sectors with really small magnets10:56
threatsbcl3, of corse there is10:57
Fator_Deecyber23: it tells you how to install and enable the ati drivers10:57
Jet2k5Bicchi: did it work?10:57
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cyber23I am trying to get direct rendering working and there isn't anything on that site that can help10:57
BicchiJet2k5: no, i think the problem is with ubuntu detecting plug-and-play hardware10:57
sbcl3threat: how?10:57
teebones[Spooky] , but what i don't understand is how come that hdb is partitioned, but yet not in use?10:57
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Jet2k5Bicchi: is there a way that you can connect with USB instead of firewire?10:57
BicchiJet2k5: no, i do not have cables.10:58
teebones(by fstab)10:58
Fator_Deecyber23: direct rendering works after you do those things on the URL10:58
BicchiJet2k5: like i said, it works when i connect the ipod before i turn the computer on.10:58
Jet2k5Bicchi: hmm, I know that up to this date ubuntu has succesfully done the plug-and-play with stuff that I connect throught USB10:58
ice_1963how can i get clamav ????10:58
Jet2k5Bicchi: so, it only mounts your iPod when you reboot?10:58
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g14tsume: Thats weak. I use punchcards and a holepunch10:58
Taliesin`(sbcl3): google search for "Firefox Tabbrowser Extensions" and it will take you direct to what you want10:58
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cyber23I've tryed and nothing is helping10:59
Taliesin`(sbcl3): note, it does take some settings up thou to work to how you like it.10:59
BicchiJet2k5: so it has to do with auto detect. yes, only when i reboot10:59
teebonesice_1963, go fishing for clams.. hope they aren't infected ;-)10:59
IIIEars<< - suddenly has lost opened app icons. (14 terminals open - this can't be good) - will reinstalling ubuntu desktop return icons to the gnome bar?10:59
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[Spooky] teebones: well i cant add it in fstab either...10:59
Jet2k5Bicchi: you might want to post on the boards, I don't know much about it then.  Since it detects it for me everytime :)10:59
BicchiJet2k5: there should be a way to send it a wake up signal10:59
Jet2k5lol10:59
bassplayerhow do i figure out mi ip adress ?10:59
teebonesifconfig11:00
[Spooky] teebones: how do i delete it and make a new one with a new mount point ?11:00
BicchiJet2k5: thanks11:00
Jet2k5Have you tried the gtkpod ubuntu wiki?11:00
IIIEarsbass - ifconfig11:00
Jet2k5bah iPod wiki?11:00
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bassplayerit give me a message that it's not a valid command!11:00
BicchiJet2k5: yes, thats how i found how to do it. actually i had to google a little to get it to work, since i have to mount it as vfat and the wiki does not say that11:01
novaflareany opinions on DRI ?11:01
teebones[Spooky] , for ext2 sudo mke2fs /dev/hdb111:01
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tsumeperfect code :)11:01
[Phaedrus] haha11:01
[Spooky] teebones: and ext3 ?11:01
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teebones[Spooky] , for ext3 sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb111:01
bassplayerIIIEars - V11:01
novaflarerealy tsume then write me some good ati drivers :)11:01
teebones(-j = journaling added)11:01
BoarderTX i have followed http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto and have successfully gotten ndiswrapper to list that my wifi usb is driver and hardware present!11:02
bassplayerIIIEars - it sa it not a valid command11:02
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[Spooky] teebones: sudo: ext3: command not found11:02
BoarderTXyet for some reason there is not a wlan0 listed under ifconfig11:02
BoarderTXi feel like i'm so close!!111:02
[Spooky] ah wrog wait11:02
Fator_Dee[Spooky] : the ext3 is not part of the command11:02
IIIEars<< - Can turn any language into FORTRAN without really trying.11:02
teebones[Spooky] , hehe.. no.. indeed it isn't11:02
[Spooky] i did it wrong :)11:02
tsumenovaflare: steal the specs from ATI and I will ;)11:02
cyphasehey everyone11:03
teeboneshey cyber2311:03
teeboneserr11:03
teeboneshey cyphase11:03
raDeonati licks my balls..11:03
IIIEarsHi11:03
Fator_Deetabtypo :-)11:03
cyber23whats up guys11:03
BoarderTXany thoughts?11:03
teebonesyep11:03
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teebonescyber23, sry.. tabtypo.. :)11:04
gteppelI'm running Ubuntu Hoary and have noticed that xorg is hogging system resources. My box is AMD 1800XP, 768 RAM, Geforce4 128MB and if I open a terminal and then run top, when I move that terminal window around the desktop xorg usage is jumping up to the 70% which with my moderate system I think its kind of ridcolous. Any ideas how I can make ubuntu more responsive, other things like resizing windows and maximizing/minimizing is causing r11:04
gteppeleally ugly redraw effects. Is gnome just slow?, I don't remember KDE being this bad!11:04
[Spooky] teebones: ok and now when its done ?11:04
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pfpBoarderTX: how about 'ip link ls'? (ifconfig doesn't list devices that are down by dfl)11:04
teebones[Spooky] , you need to think of a mount point name11:05
teeboneswich you want hdb1 to be mounted as11:05
[Spooky] teebones: yepp done11:05
[Spooky] should i mke the folder then edit the fstab ?11:05
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teebonesmake the directory on the / system11:05
wdhgteppel, gnome is quite slow.. its being worked on though.. if it's extremely slow maybe you use the wrong GPU drivers?11:06
teebonesthen edit fstab, so it mount hdb1 to that directory11:06
teebones(on every boot)11:06
geetergodOk, i see Limewire under Applications,Internet11:06
geetergodBut i click on it and it does nothing11:06
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geetergodwhat should i do now?11:07
[Spooky] teebones: and the sudo mount -a ?11:07
wdhgeetergod, how did you install it?11:07
[Spooky] *then11:07
geetergodhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire11:07
geetergodexactly like that11:08
Fator_Deegteppel: or you could change to a "better" Desktop Environment, like XFCE4 *wink* *wink*11:08
gteppelk11:08
teebones[Spooky] , that is a way to do it.. but i prefer another one11:08
teebonesI would (for checking purpose) do a manual mount11:08
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Lydonis there any way to set up tightvncserver where when I connect to it through I windows machine I see the full GNOME desktop?11:08
[Spooky] teebones: ok well i get a "wrong fstype" on mount -a11:08
Fator_Deetsume: if one has the resources, it's not *that* bad :-p11:09
tsumeit automagically mounts and opens windows for devices11:09
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tsumeFator_Dee: I've the resources, but I frown at the memory because I'm a developer.11:09
teebones[Spooky] , you need to tell fstab that it is ext3 (if it is ext3) and not ext211:09
geetergodwdh, any tips?11:09
tsumeFator_Dee: I take up the rest of the memory what other applications don't ;)11:09
Fator_Deetsume: I frown at the memory 'cause I don't have enough!11:09
Fator_Deegrrr..11:09
Shuddertrixtsume: if I could get kde to look like my gnome desktop does, i'd love it. Probably could, just not up to do it ;)11:10
wdhgeetergod, try find the executable.. 'sudo updatedb && sudo locate limewire' for example11:10
IIIEarsYes but there is NEVER enough RAM.11:10
teebones[Spooky] , for instance           /dev/hdb1       /home           ext3    defaults        0       211:10
wdhgeetergod, not sure if you need the second 'sudo'11:10
Fator_DeeIIIEars: I was happy with 512 :-<11:10
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geetergodk11:11
ShuddertrixIIIEars: Unless you have something weird like 16 terabytes of ram, but soon enough that will be like using 16 megabytes in this day.11:11
IIIEarsBill gates thought 640kbs was enough.11:11
Fator_DeeIIIEars: but he's bill gates11:11
teebonesIIIEars, because he has no more brain storage11:11
Fator_DeeIIIEars: he thinks windows is better11:11
IIIEarsTrue - What was i thinking. - lol11:11
ShuddertrixI like teebones' explination11:11
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tanekhej11:12
[Spooky] teebones: works! thanks...11:12
tanekwrong chan sry11:12
geetergod/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/C/common/menus/limewire.xml11:12
geetergod/opt/LimeWire/root/magnet10/limewire.gif11:12
JDahlteebones, yes... what a loser - He only made more money than you can imagine in 10 years11:12
geetergodthats what it said in the terminal after i entered it11:12
teebones[Spooky] , glad to help you out11:12
eruinhaha, I get 4.800 fps in glxgears11:12
eruinas in four point eight11:12
Shuddertrixmy conversation in 2080: In my days, we used 4 GIGABYTES of ram and we LIKED IT!! *obligatory cane poking comes next*11:12
geetergodsudo updatedb && sudo locate limewire11:13
eruinwith the nvidia drivers11:13
geetergodi entered that11:13
Fator_Deeeruin: that might be some kind of a record11:13
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Shuddertrixeruin: I can get 2.750fps :P11:13
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wdhgeetergod, is there something in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin that looks like limewire?11:13
eruinFator_Dee, yeah ;) I wonder why though... I guess I'll install the official drivers instead of the package11:13
Lydonis it possible to use vnc to show the full dektop, etc?  When I connect I only see a console.11:13
ShuddertrixJust run vmware while compiling 2 things at once, perferably one compiling in vmware too :P11:13
medkit_Howto remove two modules (in my case: hpt34x and hpt366) from a 2.6.10-5-k7 Kernel? Have sources and headers, need guidance.11:14
IIIEarseruin - What have you done so far?11:14
eruinShuddertrix, that's cheating!11:14
novaflareany one useing  DRI drivers on ubuntu?11:14
eruinIIIEars, I've gone official nvidia-glx deb11:14
Shuddertrixeruin: Ok then, how about on a 386 then?11:14
Taliesin`^^11:14
geetergodwhere do i go to check?11:14
ShuddertrixThat's not cheating, that's just normal! :D11:14
eruinShorty`, also cheating.. this is on a barton2500 ;)11:14
Taliesin`90FPS for GLX Gears :D11:14
eruinI used to have 3000fps.. wonder wtf is wrong ;)11:14
Taliesin`haha eruin11:14
Taliesin`sif make a small window11:14
Taliesin`:P11:14
eruin:)11:14
[Spooky] teebones: take time to come into the world of linux hehe11:14
IIIEarseruin - "" The Official binary drivers are a bit better.11:15
eruinIIIEars, yeah ;)11:15
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ShuddertrixYou should only take glxgears benchs at the default screen size. It's only natural.11:15
Fator_Deehaha, average 90FPS in glxgears, beat that!11:15
eruin4.8fps tells me something is horribly wrong in my configuration though11:15
ShuddertrixUm.11:15
Taliesin`http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/18/2033216 <- btw, a great read of what it would be like if linux was the dominent OS, aka came out before Windows did and was the mainstream market.11:15
Shuddertrixeruin: Did you kill the nvidia drivers for everyone?11:15
ShuddertrixI'm getting 10fps!11:16
wdhFator_Dee, in what direction? up or down?11:16
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eruinShuddertrix, buahhaa11:16
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teebones[Spooky] , yes.. have fun to learn and love linux11:16
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Fator_Deewdh: whatever floats your boat11:16
pidiusciao a tutti11:16
novaflare1542.800 FPS   <<<< wtf11:16
Shuddertrix50 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10.000 FPS11:16
afxbonsoir11:16
wdh647 frames in 5.0 seconds = 129.400 FPS11:16
Taliesin`interesting11:16
geetergodyes theres a limewire thing in here11:16
Taliesin`im seeing IPv6 ip's sendming messages to the channel11:16
Taliesin`:P11:16
IIIEarsI must be the last person in North America to play "Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3" in linux. - great game. - lol11:17
pidiusciao11:17
Shuddertrixsomething tells me the cpu is being used up..11:17
Fator_DeeShuddertrix: top?11:17
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wdhgeetergod, in /usr/bin?11:17
novaflarethat would be me taliesin11:17
geetergodyes11:17
Shuddertrixdamn wine11:17
sbcl3IIIEars: i haven't played it...11:17
spiderworm2hey all i have a large collection of mp3s and am running 64 bit hoary, kde instead of gnome, i cant seem to find a good kde player with mp3 support.  what do i do?11:17
novaflareoddly enough my ipv6 con here is better than ipv411:17
ShuddertrixFator_Dee: Yeah, i just checked my top when you typed that11:17
Taliesin`(novaflare): :)11:17
wdhgeetergod, 'cd /usr/bin; ./whateveritiscalled'11:17
Taliesin`i havent opened up my IPv6 connection for awhile11:17
AmaranthraDeon: Please don't do that again.11:17
wdhgeetergod, naturally replacing the last term by the actual filename :)11:17
spiderworm2raDeon: i second that11:18
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Amaranthspiderworm2: I can enforce it. ;)11:18
IIIEarssbcl3 - It's part of "Doom 3"'s cafeteria11:18
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ShuddertrixOdd , that is11:18
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spiderworm2Amaranth: cool11:18
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ShuddertrixI'm getting only around 1000 fps now..11:18
wdhspiderworm2, i liked JuK on KDE11:18
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Taliesin`Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3!!!!11:18
Taliesin`hmm11:18
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spiderworm2wdh: i like juk too but there seems to be a prob with mp3 playback11:18
eruinoh11:18
eruinright11:18
teebonesl8r dudes.dudetes11:18
ShuddertrixTaliesin`: THAT IS TEH FUN!1!11:19
Shuddertrix;)11:19
geetergodsays ....     bash: ./limewire: No such file or directory11:19
Taliesin`(Shuddertrix): rgr11:19
wdhspiderworm2, search the wiki for 'restricted formats'11:19
eruin11300 eruin     25   0 43792  34m  10m R 44.9  6.8 204:25.48 poedit11:19
eruin11496 eruin     25   0 43788  30m  11m R 43.9  6.0 190:19.23 poedit11:19
lonewolffgeetergod: its called runLime.sh11:19
eruinthat might have something to do with my low fps :P11:19
Shuddertrixeruin: you're a cheater!11:19
geetergodok11:19
Quest-MasterraDeon: Any reason why you /CTCP'ed me?11:19
wdhspiderworm2, iirc installing gstreamer-mad will help11:19
eruinShuddertrix, damn, I thought I was leet :P11:19
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raDeonQuest-Master, yes11:19
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Fator_Deeeruin: kill the bastard!11:19
raDeonQuest-Master, i love you11:19
geetergodstill cant find it11:20
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Quest-MasterraDeon: Hmm?11:20
geetergodbash: ./runlime.sh: No such file or directory11:20
geetergodgeetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:/usr/bin$11:20
eruinFator_Dee, now I get 3120fps11:20
eruin:(11:20
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lonewolffis it in a limewire folder?11:20
wdhgeetergod, 'locate runLime11:20
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lonewolffi have mine in /usr/limewire/11:20
wdhgeetergod, and linux is case-sensitive11:20
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Fator_Deeeruin: might be better to keep that poedit running11:20
xav_hi all11:20
eruinFator_Dee, yes! :p11:20
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Shuddertrixpoedit: Cross-platform gettext catalog editor11:20
geetergod/usr/bin/runLime.sh11:20
geetergod/usr/bin/runLime.sh~11:20
geetergod/opt/LimeWire/runLime.sh11:20
geetergodthats what i got11:21
eruinFator_Dee, but then fast-user-switching-applet won't come out in my language!11:21
wdhok, try '/usr/bin/runLime.sh'11:21
geetergodk11:21
toxicfumeguys11:21
wdhgeetergod, and again, it is case-sensitive11:21
xav_does anyone know how to compile kernel modules (lirc mod) without actually compiling a kernel (ie using standard 2.6.10 ubuntu kernel and sources)11:21
geetergodStarting LimeWire...11:21
geetergodJava exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...11:21
geetergodls: /usr/java: No such file or directory11:21
geetergodOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy11:21
geetergodYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com11:21
Fator_Deeeruin: I don't even like to use any program in my native language :-|11:21
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geetergodi need to upgrade that first?11:22
wdhgeetergod, do as it says :)11:22
wdhgeetergod, yes11:22
wdhgeetergod, search the wiki for11:22
wdh*java11:22
wdhgeetergod, there are several ways of installing the JRE11:22
toxicfumeI am using MEPIS right now, which flawlessly detects al my newer hardware, if i wanted to use Ubuntu now(which i have tried and know has LOTS of problems with my hardware), can i copy the config files and get the hardware to work in ubuntu?11:22
geetergodjust 'sudo apt-get JRE 1.4.x?11:22
wdhgeetergod, nope11:22
cyber23who in here can help me get my ati video drivers working... I seem to have everything installed but they arn't working right.  need someones help11:22
desrtgeetergod; you wish :)11:22
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geetergodlol i know11:22
crimmycyber23: did you follow http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?11:23
timmy__hi guys, I am completely knew to the whole linux ubuntu thing, so a few questions. Whats the executable file extention, ie whats linux equivilent to m$ .exe?11:23
wdhgeetergod, then please stop playing stupid and save us the typing11:23
cyber23yes and had no luck11:23
geetergodwell this is my 2nd day on ubuntu11:23
crimmytimmy__: there is none. It all depends on the permissions on the file and the actual magic.11:23
geetergodcan i just get it from www.java.com?11:23
Fator_Deetimmy__: yes, it depends on the file completely11:23
hondjenumerology11:23
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Fator_Deetimmy__: usually there's no extension11:24
timmy__thanks also, how do I actualy run the installers11:24
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timmy__i am tryin to update firefox11:24
Fator_Deetimmy__: depends on the installer :-)11:24
timmy__i have downloaded the update11:24
justintimmy__: you already have the latest firefox11:24
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timmy__it says i am out of date11:25
justinit?11:25
Flavit!11:25
Fator_Deetimmy__: the extension website?11:25
cyber23this is no on in here that can help with ati drivers11:25
crimmytimmy__: the version string was not updated11:25
crimmycyber23: did you answer my question?11:25
darkauditwhen I tried to either create a new EA account, or reclaim an existing one, it crapped out... I couldn't type anything where I needed to11:25
ShuddertrixI'm having problems getting gnome to startup any applications upon boot. Anyone know what file I would have to change (to do it manually instead of with the Sessions panel)11:25
justin.. yes, probably the website with the nice big explanation that tells you how to fix the problem11:25
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crimmycyber23: (please preface responses with my nick and a semicolon so it'll trigger my irc client's highlighting)11:26
darkauditbut that was still more than I expected... :)11:26
hung_daddyhi guys11:26
hung_daddyi need help11:26
Flavcrimmy: semicolon? not colon?11:26
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crimmyFlav: either will work for me :)11:26
threatWhat program do I configure to control the auto-mount feature?  is that a gnome thing? or some other program doing that? (well I know its not autofs doing it ;))11:26
darkauditcrimmy: what about a comma? :)11:26
Flavcrimmy!11:26
cyber23crimmy: yes I tryed the site11:26
crimmysure, some delimiter11:26
Flav(rhymes with timmy)11:26
apollo2011I added the universe repository and I am wondering if I add the openoffice.org 2.0 Beta packages. Will that affec the currently installed 1.1.311:26
threatcrimmy!11:26
threat:P11:27
geetergodis J2SE (Core/Desktop) an updated version of JRE?11:27
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cyber23crimmy; yes I tryed the site11:27
threatapollo2011, no11:27
cyber23crimmy; I didn't have any luck11:27
Flavgeetergod: no, it's just a specific version of the Java Runtime Environment11:27
crimmycyber23: does glxinfo tell you "Direct rendering: yes"?11:27
darkauditthreat: IIRC it's gnome-volume-manager11:27
cyber23it says no11:27
threatgeetergod, add a debian mirror and install java-package I Think its called11:28
cyber23crimmy; it says no11:28
Flavgeetergod: JRE is just the runtime, JDK is the Java Development Kit that also includers compilers and other tools along with the JRE11:28
geetergodhow do i upgrade JRE 1.4.x?11:28
geetergodoh11:28
Fator_Deecyber23: have you restarted X?11:28
cyber23crimmy: yes11:28
cyber23crimmy: and restarted my computer11:28
threatdarkaudit, I see, and how would one configure that?  because its extremeley unreliable, either I need to configure it properly for my setup or I need to "uninstall it" (or at least disable it) and use autofs)11:28
cyber23crimmy: I am running out of luck11:28
crimmycyber23: (ok, you probably meant to address those last two statements to Fator_Dee)11:29
cyber23fator_dee: yes I have11:29
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Fator_Dee:-)11:29
hung_daddyi want to install the kde desktop but i dont see it in the package manager, and im connected to the internet11:29
crimmyhung_daddy: install kubuntu-desktop11:29
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hung_daddyi dont see that either11:29
geetergodthis stuffs so confusing11:29
crimmyhung_daddy: is the main repository enabled?11:29
threatgeetergod, not really  :) what are you finding confusing/11:29
darkauditthreat: I've really got no idea beyond what program is doing it... sorry :(11:29
hung_daddywhat is that crimmy?11:30
threatdarkaudit, ok :(11:30
titoanyone know a gnome/client to dbus system ?11:30
threatcrimmy, do you know/ :)11:30
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threattito, who/11:30
cyber23fator_dee: can u help any11:30
geetergodthis is my 2nd day NOT on windows, i dont understand how to install things really11:30
crimmythreat: come again?11:30
justintito: what do you expect a dbus client to do?11:30
geetergodlike upgrading JRE 1.4.x  dont even know where to begin11:30
Fator_Deecyber23: hard to help when I don't have any idea on what the problem could be if you have followed those instructions11:30
threatcrimmy, hmm should I repeat my self or should you scroll up about 16 lines?11:30
cyber23I have11:31
Fator_Deecyber23: but you could paste the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to www.pastebin.com so we could have a look at that11:31
cyber23fator_dee: I have11:31
Keitoi wondered why oss didn't work, and then found out that /dev/dsp and /dev/audio have been replaced by wav-files (quite logical that it didn't work, then). what do i do to get those working again?11:31
Fator_Deecyber23: and /var/log/Xorg.0.log too11:31
cyber23fator_dee: k11:31
crimmythreat: that's in System>Preferences>...11:31
titoshow popup near notification area when a device is plug-in/out, when i received a mail...11:31
munkiDoes anybody know a good editor (like Quanta+ for KDE) that runs on GTK+ ?11:31
threatcrimmy, w00t11:31
crimmy(don't have Hoary running tam)11:31
crimmyatm, rather11:31
titoevolution... hal.. udev.. use dbus11:32
geetergodhttp://forum.java.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=3211:32
geetergodthis is where i am now11:32
titobut i'm unable to find a project to show interessting message on user desktop11:32
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geetergodam i getting close?11:32
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crimmycyber23: ok, start at the beginning. Are you sure your hardware is supported by the version of the ATI drivers in Hoary?11:33
g14tito: Gnome is missing a generic notification library11:33
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titog14, why gnome don't use dbus ?11:33
titognotify is bad.11:33
justintito: I think you are confused about what dbus actually does11:34
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cyber23every where that I have read says they are11:34
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g14tito: dbus does IPC interprocess communication. Not notification like the balloons in windows11:34
titomaybe, but we can't build a client of top of dbus ?11:34
cyber23fator_dee: http://pastebin.com/29186711:34
titoi'm agree with this11:34
phpfreakanyone here tried Ubuntu on an HP pavilion laptop yet?11:34
apollo2011threat: no it will or no it won't?11:35
cyber23crimmy: that I have seen it is supported11:35
titoa "notification application" is some part of catch interprocess communication11:35
tito(sorry for my bad english)11:35
hung_daddyargh i need kde11:35
apollo2011threat: nvm i guess it won't interfere11:35
hung_daddyi cant find it11:36
justinhung_daddy: you don't need to "find" it, just install it11:36
crimmycyber23: ok, please post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto http://pastebin.com11:36
Kpjashung_daddy: Kubuntu ?11:36
phpfreakI get as far as loading up X and then when I login, the mouse freezes and it hangs after the initial sound11:36
hung_daddyyeah11:36
hung_daddyi cant find it11:36
cyber23crimmy: http://pastebin.com/29186711:36
crimmyhung_daddy: paste the output of ,,apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop'' in #flood11:36
hung_daddyin synaptec11:36
cyber23crimmy: thats it there11:36
hung_daddycrimmy i dont understand what u said11:36
robert_why cant i hear any sounds from ubuntu?11:36
Fator_Dee(WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported <-- that might have something to do about it11:37
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crimmyhung_daddy: open a terminal, type apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop, paste the output into the irc channel #flood on this network11:37
Fator_Deebut if it's supported, it might now :-\11:37
cyber23fator_dee; did u get my http://pastebin.com/29186711:38
Varangerhi all11:38
geetergodis this where i can get JRE 1.4.x?   http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status/jdk1.4-status.html11:38
hung_daddyk i did that crimmy11:38
Varangerdoes anyone know how to make an Intel High Definition Audio work ???11:38
Kpjaswhat needs more resources kubuntu or vanilla ubuntu Hoary ?11:39
Fator_Deecyber23: at he end of the log there's the reason for it11:39
justingeetergod: no. read the stuff about java in the ubuntu forums.11:39
crimmyVaranger: install the alsa-source package from universe and the build-essential package from main11:39
Fator_Deecyber23: starting at line 838.11:39
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Fator_Deecyber23: or actually line 850.11:40
Varangercrimmy: al-source from Hoary ?11:40
geetergodk11:40
cyber23factor_dee; any way to fix it11:41
justincyber23: how did you install the fglrx drivers?11:41
crimmyVaranger: alsa-source11:41
crimmyVaranger: (in universe)11:41
Varangercrimmy: Sorry, I meant alsa-source from Hoary universe.... or Breezy Universe?11:42
crimmyVaranger: the former (don't use the latter!)11:42
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threatcrimmy, hmmm although gnome doesn't always mount my USB drives :/11:42
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giggseyCan someone give me a quick bit of support on speedtouch11:43
giggseyi followed the instructions on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo11:43
crimmythreat: from a fresh boot?11:43
giggseyi reboot into linux, both lights come up, then the dls flashing then stays on, like in windows11:43
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giggseybut when i try firefox or something, it doesn't work, so the modems working and initilazing, but its not connecting to the interwub11:44
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Ja1Today on my  server  root user cannot delete any file in /usr/sbin and samba executables in /usr/bin.  Is it a known rootkit ? (moreover my chkrootkit now never finishes examining inetd)11:44
martiihi folks11:46
martiiI need info about good DSL provider in UK11:46
giggseynot AOL, lol11:46
Fator_DeeJa1: I think there's not much sense on running rootkit checker directly from the machine that is being checked11:46
giggseyive got AOL11:46
martiicheap and large transfer liits11:46
martiilimits11:46
giggseyAOL11:46
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crimmyVaranger: after that, you need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:46
Fator_DeeJa1: you should boot from a cd or something like that11:46
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giggseyunlimited bandwidth, 512 connection for 17.99 a month11:46
crimmyVaranger: then follow the directions in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian11:47
martiigiggsey: AOL ?11:47
giggseyyes11:47
martiigiggsey: hmm almost all providers have limits11:47
hung_daddythank you crimmy11:47
martiigiggsey: any links ?11:47
crimmyVaranger: essentially: cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source11:47
giggseytrue, http://aol.co.uk/11:47
crimmyVaranger: then choose "no" for Plug N Play, "yes" for debug, and choose the "azx" driver11:48
Ja1Fator_Dee: Knoppix ?11:48
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threatcrimmy, a fresh boot? no I mean I plug it in, I unmount it, I put it back in later and it doesnt mount, I leave it for a while. come back, take it out pout it back in again and it mounts11:48
martiigiggsey: do they give free modem ?11:48
Fator_DeeJa1: yep, or knoppix-std11:48
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threatmartii, ?11:48
Fator_DeeJa1: knoppix-std might be a better choice11:48
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martiithreat: :)11:48
giggseymartii: yes, but its a crappy BT Voyager 105 USB11:48
crimmyVaranger: then, sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) KVERS=$(uname -r)11:48
giggseyanyone know an answer for my question above!!! ^_^11:48
martiigiggsey: I have my modem from old probvide thomson speedtouch 33011:49
crimmyVaranger: when that last command completes, sudo dpkg -i ../*.deb11:49
threatmartii, the topics are all over the place in this channel :)11:49
martiigiggsey: worked fine for 12 months11:49
Varangercrimmy: is there any guide for it ?11:49
giggseymartii: kwl11:49
crimmyVaranger: I just wrote it out stepwise.11:49
threatgiggsey, LOL you got AOL'ed!11:49
martiigiggsey: thanks for info11:49
Ja1Fator_Dee: Is there any apt command to reinstall all suspect binaries in chroot ?11:49
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devianthello guys11:49
giggseythreat: im using Speedtouch 330 now, but i need last little bit of help on it, im a linux n00b, and proud!11:50
threatgiggsey, is your computer a DELL by an chance? :)11:50
threatan = any11:50
Varangercrimmy: I don't understand this line : then, sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) KVERS=$(uname -r)11:50
giggseyno threat11:50
threathehe11:50
threatjust making sure :P11:50
giggseyPackard Bell11:50
crimmyVaranger: the "sudo ..." command is what you type in a terminal11:50
deviantwhy can`t i compile mplayer with xv output suport ?11:50
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threatLOL!11:50
martiigiggsey: I see that all their broadband have unlimited downloads11:50
martiigiggsey: very rare11:50
threatgiggsey, your not a geek are you ? :)11:50
giggseyyeah11:50
giggseyonly on wednesdays :P11:50
giggsey^_^11:50
Fator_DeeJa1: I don't know :-\11:50
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martiigiggsey: hmm their offer is really nice11:51
threatgiggsey, heh11:51
crimmyback in a bit11:51
Varangercrimmy: I know about sudo but about debian/rules... is that a command ?11:51
martiigiggsey: what about connection, how often do they drop it11:51
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martiigiggsey: and reliability11:51
crimmyVaranger: yes11:51
giggseywhat u mean?11:51
giggseyive never had a problem with it11:51
giggseyand ive had it for 8 months11:51
threatgiggsey, well on Wednesday how about you build a computer up from stratch, replacing your packard bell, and then build linux up from scratch :)  then you will have my respect :P hehe11:51
Varangercrimmy: what package ?11:52
martiigiggsey: hmmm I think about ubuntu box as a router11:52
giggseylol threat11:52
martiigiggsey: with trafic shaping11:52
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martiigiggsey: so that AOL seems to be nice11:52
threatgiggsey, :P  no offence ment of corse ;)11:52
deviantwhy can`t i compile mplayer with xv output suport ?11:52
wdhthreat, dont fix what ain't broken :)11:53
giggseymartii: my mate has a server running of AOL, and its a reboot router every 3 months or something (for internet)11:53
giggseyi followed the instructions on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo11:53
wdhdeviant, stop re-asking questions11:53
giggseyi reboot into linux, both lights come up, then the dls flashing then stays on, like in windows11:53
giggseybut when i try firefox or something, it doesn't work, so the modems working and initilazing, but its not connecting to the interwub11:53
martiigiggsey: I think you have problem with ppp11:53
martiigiggsey: firmware seem to be loaded11:53
Fator_Deegiggsey: you should check what the logs say11:53
martiigiggsey: what ip r s shows11:53
giggseywhere r the logs11:54
geetergodI downloaded jre-1.5.0.03 is that the right JRE download?11:54
Fator_Deethey are in /var/log/11:54
giggseytrying to find if ive got VMWare on my windows11:54
giggseykk Fator11:54
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threatwdh,  ;) hehe, if its not broken tweak it :P11:54
geetergodit saved on desktop as jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin11:54
Fator_Deethreat: if it still won't break, tweak it more :-p11:54
wdhthreat, :-)11:54
martiigiggsey: try to look at ppp logs as its some kind of ppp over ATM or ETH I think11:54
threatFator_Dee, heh :)11:55
wdhFator_Dee, :-P11:55
martiigiggsey: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo11:55
martiigiggsey: this one is very primitice11:55
martiigiggsey: primitive11:55
giggseylol11:55
giggsey:(11:55
giggseyi just need something simple and that will work11:55
martiigiggsey: it says very little aobut ppp setup11:56
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martiigiggsey: and it's important to have defaultroute11:56
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martiigiggsey: setuped11:56
giggsey:blink:11:56
threatFator_Dee, and if it wont tweak any more then purchase one of those variable clock isoSomethings and continue to tweak11:56
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aamcfI have a problem when I sudo apt-get install goobox: The following packages have unmet dependencies:11:57
aamcf  goobox: Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (>= 2.9.90) but 2.8.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed11:57
aamcfE: Broken packages11:57
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Fator_Deethreat: "Don't force it, get a bigger hammer."11:57
giggseywhich log should i look in11:57
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threatyeah11:58
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martiigiggsey: /var/log/ppp.log or so11:58
enonuHello.  I'm new to ubuntu and linux in general.  I'm trying to set some environment variables, and I'm altering /etc/profile with X=Y type statements followed by EXPORT X statements, however upon logoff/logon, the variables aren't persisted.  What am I doing wrong?11:58
giggseyno ppf.log11:58
martiigiggsey: tail /var/log/ppp<tab>11:58
giggsey*ppp11:58
threatgiggsey, find /var/log -exec less {} \;11:58
giggseyim in windows, running explore2fs11:58
diemanenonu: you might just want to set trhem in /etc/environment11:59
deviantguys, how the hell do i compile mplayer with xv video output suport? trying --enable-xv won`t do the just :(11:59
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diemanenonu: in there you don't need to do export, just put BLAH=blah11:59
justindeviant: install the ubuntu packages that already have xv support11:59
diemanenonu: pam will end up setting up the environment before the shell runs11:59

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