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| mpt | Burgundavia: I'd like Malone to not be about commenting on bugs, because that means you have to read a bazillion comments to find out what the state of play is | 03:41 |
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| Burgundavia | ok | 03:42 |
| Burgundavia | I am failing to see how this connects to me, sorry | 03:42 |
| mpt | Because you asked me to comment on a couple of bugs | 03:45 |
| Burgundavia | ah, ok | 03:45 |
| Burgundavia | really, I am asking you whether or not you thought my ideas were sound or crack | 03:45 |
| mpt | Burgundavia: For example, bug 809, you gave a description of 6 numbered points, then added a 7th ... in a comment. It doesn't go in a comment, it goes in the description. :-) | 03:46 |
| Burgundavia | ah, ok | 03:46 |
| Burgundavia | I didn't see that distinction | 03:46 |
| mpt | Yeah, the interface sucks a.t.m. | 03:46 |
| mpt | Probably will for a while | 03:47 |
| mpt | I agree with both those bugs, though | 03:47 |
| Burgundavia | ok, that is what I looking for | 03:48 |
| mpt | I'd like a single page for signing up and registering a project at the same time for Rosetta | 03:48 |
| Burgundavia | that would be nice | 03:48 |
| mpt | hmm | 03:48 |
| Burgundavia | my idea is to hide as much of the "bugzilla-style interface" behind nicer screens, for those people who don't have to see it | 03:49 |
| mpt | I was thinking that was analogous to what you're asking for in 809, but it's not really, is it | 03:49 |
| Burgundavia | well, they can be | 03:49 |
| mpt | 809 is caring more about whether a package is in Ubuntu than whether it's in Launchpad. | 03:49 |
| Burgundavia | we can have on product registration page | 03:49 |
| Burgundavia | which would register it everywhere by default | 03:50 |
| Burgundavia | and looks for it in the distros we track | 03:50 |
| Burgundavia | and if it is not there, adds a request for it | 03:50 |
| mpt | sounds reasonable | 03:54 |
| Burgundavia | what kind of UI would we want for this? Is there any reason why we would not want to request a package or add a product to rosetta? | 03:55 |
| Burgundavia | in other words, should there be some selectablity there? | 03:55 |
| mpt | Well, who's going to look at those requests? | 03:56 |
| mpt | Afaik, daf and carlos only have time to set up products if they get sent the POT files or told exactly where they are | 03:56 |
| Burgundavia | yes, so maybe leave out rosetta by default? | 03:57 |
| Burgundavia | or have a checkmark, disabled by default | 03:57 |
| mpt | Leave out Rosetta from what? | 03:57 |
| Burgundavia | this "add product page" | 03:58 |
| Burgundavia | then have a checkmark, then, when checked, ungreys a place to list packages to upload or a URL | 03:58 |
| Burgundavia | mpt, as for the UI, description, vs comments | 04:06 |
| Burgundavia | maybe make the description editiable up top and remove the editable place | 04:06 |
| mpt | "the editable place"? | 04:07 |
| mpt | As for the general product registration page, I don't think it should have setup fields for every Launchpad application | 04:07 |
| mpt | that won't scale | 04:07 |
| mpt | I meant a specialized setup page for Rosetta that includes a copy of the product registration form inside it. | 04:08 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 04:08 |
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| Burgundavia | what about things that have already been registered in Launchpad? | 04:09 |
| mpt | Then they'd use the normal Rosetta setup page. | 04:11 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 04:11 |
| mpt | Anyway, sorry for bringing Rosetta into this conversation based on something I thought was a parallel but actually isn't :-) | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | so we would thus have 2 setup pages, one for Launchpad/requesting apps | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | and another for rosetta | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | for the first page, we do need some sort of UI for adding things to rosetta as well, as some people will have the necessary po/pot files | 04:13 |
| mpt | That doesn't scale | 04:13 |
| mpt | Imagine in three years that we have eight Launchpad apps | 04:14 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 04:14 |
| mpt | Rosetta and Malone and six others | 04:14 |
| mpt | Do you want the setup stuff for all of them on the add-product page? | 04:14 |
| Burgundavia | not really | 04:15 |
| Burgundavia | but with some javascript voodoo, we can hide the setup options for those by default, and only show them if clicked | 04:15 |
| Burgundavia | just an idea, maybe crazy | 04:15 |
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| Luciph3r | ave gentaglia | 10:14 |
| SteveA | sveiki, zmons | 10:46 |
| SteveA | sveiki, mons | 10:49 |
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| pschulz01 | Anything wrong with lauchpad at the moment? | 11:43 |
| SteveA | yeah | 11:43 |
| SteveA | so, there's a problem with certain product home pages | 11:44 |
| SteveA | they give system errors | 11:44 |
| SteveA | there's a quick fix being applied to launchpad right now to fix that | 11:44 |
| SteveA | and a proper fix to be applied when we update the servers properly later in the week. | 11:44 |
| pschulz01 | I'm having a problem logging in. | 11:44 |
| SteveA | and a test being written to ensure that this particular problem won't happen again | 11:44 |
| SteveA | oh, that's interesting | 11:44 |
| pschulz01 | It's laking a long time.. first-time cameback with what looked like a cache | 11:45 |
| pschulz01 | error | 11:45 |
| SteveA | tell me what URL you're using to log in | 11:46 |
| pschulz01 | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/+login | 11:46 |
| SteveA | okay. i think the server is being restarted with that fix i mentioned. | 11:46 |
| pschulz01 | Trying again.. | 11:47 |
| SteveA | i got a page, but it is being very slow | 11:48 |
| SteveA | i'll ask the admins about it. | 11:48 |
| pschulz01 | cheers :-) | 11:48 |
| pschulz01 | in now | 11:49 |
| SteveA | okay | 11:49 |
| SteveA | so, here's what i know | 11:49 |
| SteveA | right now, certain things that happen in rosetta in launchpad take a lot of CPU resources | 11:49 |
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| SteveA | and i mean a huge amount | 11:50 |
| SteveA | or is that memory and database resources | 11:50 |
| SteveA | anyway, a huge amount of resources | 11:50 |
| SteveA | and when these run, the whole system slows down a lot | 11:50 |
| SteveA | the rosetta team have got a refactoring that avoids the problem | 11:50 |
| SteveA | but it isn't available on the server yet | 11:50 |
| SteveA | so that looks like what is happening | 11:50 |
| SteveA | the best i can suggest right now is, if this happens again, try again in a few minutes, when the greedy operation has probably finished | 11:51 |
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