[03:41] <mpt> Burgundavia: I'd like Malone to not be about commenting on bugs, because that means you have to read a bazillion comments to find out what the state of play is
[03:42] <Burgundavia> ok
[03:42] <Burgundavia> I am failing to see how this connects to me, sorry
[03:45] <mpt> Because you asked me to comment on a couple of bugs
[03:45] <Burgundavia> ah, ok
[03:45] <Burgundavia> really, I am asking you whether or not you thought my ideas were sound or crack
[03:46] <mpt> Burgundavia: For example, bug 809, you gave a description of 6 numbered points, then added a 7th ... in a comment. It doesn't go in a comment, it goes in the description. :-)
[03:46] <Burgundavia> ah, ok
[03:46] <Burgundavia> I didn't see that distinction
[03:46] <mpt> Yeah, the interface sucks a.t.m.
[03:47] <mpt> Probably will for a while
[03:47] <mpt> I agree with both those bugs, though
[03:48] <Burgundavia> ok, that is what I looking for
[03:48] <mpt> I'd like a single page for signing up and registering a project at the same time for Rosetta
[03:48] <Burgundavia> that would be nice
[03:48] <mpt> hmm
[03:49] <Burgundavia> my idea is to hide as much of the "bugzilla-style interface" behind nicer screens, for those people who don't have to see it
[03:49] <mpt> I was thinking that was analogous to what you're asking for in 809, but it's not really, is it
[03:49] <Burgundavia> well, they can be
[03:49] <mpt> 809 is caring more about whether a package is in Ubuntu than whether it's in Launchpad.
[03:49] <Burgundavia> we can have on product registration page
[03:50] <Burgundavia> which would register it everywhere by default
[03:50] <Burgundavia> and looks for it in the distros we track
[03:50] <Burgundavia> and if it is not there, adds a request for it
[03:54] <mpt> sounds reasonable
[03:55] <Burgundavia> what kind of UI would we want for this? Is there any reason why we would not want to request a package or add a product to rosetta?
[03:55] <Burgundavia> in other words, should there be some selectablity there?
[03:56] <mpt> Well, who's going to look at those requests?
[03:56] <mpt> Afaik, daf and carlos only have time to set up products if they get sent the POT files or told exactly where they are
[03:57] <Burgundavia> yes, so maybe leave out rosetta by default?
[03:57] <Burgundavia> or have a checkmark, disabled by default
[03:57] <mpt> Leave out Rosetta from what?
[03:58] <Burgundavia> this "add product page"
[03:58] <Burgundavia> then have a checkmark, then, when checked, ungreys a place to list packages to upload or a URL
[04:06] <Burgundavia> mpt, as for the UI, description, vs comments
[04:06] <Burgundavia> maybe make the description editiable up top and remove the editable place
[04:07] <mpt> "the editable place"?
[04:07] <mpt> As for the general product registration page, I don't think it should have setup fields for every Launchpad application
[04:07] <mpt> that won't scale
[04:08] <mpt> I meant a specialized setup page for Rosetta that includes a copy of the product registration form inside it.
[04:08] <Burgundavia> ok
[04:09] <Burgundavia> what about things that have already been registered in Launchpad?
[04:11] <mpt> Then they'd use the normal Rosetta setup page.
[04:11] <Burgundavia> ok
[04:12] <mpt> Anyway, sorry for bringing Rosetta into this conversation based on something I thought was a parallel but actually isn't :-)
[04:12] <Burgundavia> ok
[04:12] <Burgundavia> so we would thus have 2 setup pages, one for Launchpad/requesting apps
[04:12] <Burgundavia> and another for rosetta
[04:13] <Burgundavia> for the first page, we do need some sort of UI for adding things to rosetta as well, as some people will have the necessary po/pot files
[04:13] <mpt> That doesn't scale
[04:14] <mpt> Imagine in three years that we have eight Launchpad apps
[04:14] <Burgundavia> yes
[04:14] <mpt> Rosetta and Malone and six others
[04:14] <mpt> Do you want the setup stuff for all of them on the add-product page?
[04:15] <Burgundavia> not really
[04:15] <Burgundavia> but with some javascript voodoo, we can hide the setup options for those by default, and only show them if clicked
[04:15] <Burgundavia> just an idea, maybe crazy
[10:14] <Luciph3r> ave gentaglia
[10:46] <SteveA> sveiki, zmons
[10:49] <SteveA> sveiki, mons
[11:43] <pschulz01> Anything wrong with lauchpad at the moment?
[11:43] <SteveA> yeah
[11:44] <SteveA> so, there's a problem with certain product home pages
[11:44] <SteveA> they give system errors
[11:44] <SteveA> there's a quick fix being applied to launchpad right now to fix that
[11:44] <SteveA> and a proper fix to be applied when we update the servers properly later in the week.
[11:44] <pschulz01> I'm having a problem logging in.
[11:44] <SteveA> and a test being written to ensure that this particular problem won't happen again
[11:44] <SteveA> oh, that's interesting
[11:45] <pschulz01> It's laking a long time.. first-time cameback with what looked like a cache
[11:45] <pschulz01> error
[11:46] <SteveA> tell me what URL you're using to log in
[11:46] <pschulz01> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/+login
[11:46] <SteveA> okay. i think the server is being restarted with that fix i mentioned.
[11:47] <pschulz01> Trying again.. 
[11:48] <SteveA> i got a page, but it is being very slow
[11:48] <SteveA> i'll ask the admins about it.
[11:48] <pschulz01> cheers :-)
[11:49] <pschulz01> in now
[11:49] <SteveA> okay
[11:49] <SteveA> so, here's what i know
[11:49] <SteveA> right now, certain things that happen in rosetta in launchpad take a lot of CPU resources
[11:50] <SteveA> and i mean a huge amount
[11:50] <SteveA> or is that memory and database resources
[11:50] <SteveA> anyway, a huge amount of resources
[11:50] <SteveA> and when these run, the whole system slows down a lot
[11:50] <SteveA> the rosetta team have got a refactoring that avoids the problem
[11:50] <SteveA> but it isn't available on the server yet
[11:50] <SteveA> so that looks like what is happening
[11:51] <SteveA> the best i can suggest right now is, if this happens again, try again in a few minutes, when the greedy operation has probably finished